Who *doesn't* watch TV?

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Perhaps a strange question. Let me explain as I can -- as I muttered over on the "Home Truths" thread and have said elsewhere, I have stopped actively watching TV for some time. The last series I followed was MST3K, now since dearly departed -- before that would have been the last gasp of Star Trek fandom I had in the mid-nineties. The TV itself is set to a tentacle of the Fox empire that does nothing but show various football matches around the world, which I'm fine with, though I don't really pay direct attention to -- the TV is mostly a video/DVD monitor at this point. I don't browse printed listings and I don't channel surf, stuff I used to do -- indeed, my TV highpoint was probably late seventies/early eighties, everything slowly but surely ebbing since then and now at this point. The recent Olympics coverage was a noted exception, and even then I kept the sound off most of the time.

I make no claims for this being a sign of my Higher Enlightenment. Indeed, I'm intrigued by Tim's talk on the Brit TV drama thread and Nicole sometime back on Buffy about the human, direct appeal of those shows in particular, for instance, and it's patently obvious they're both some of the smartest (and kindest) folks around. And of course many are the comments on goofy/silly/grotesque moments on TV worldwide from nearly all of us. I'm not interested in anti-TV tirades per se -- but I'm also not motivated to investigate further despite all of said recommendations, thoughts and considerations.

I partially wonder if my time on the Net explains my lack of interest -- certainly it only seems to have accelerated in proportion over the years to my use/participation on it, from newsgroups in 1993 to now. But clearly many of us maintain a similarly close connection to the Net (and in many ways are much busier than I am) and still pursue it.

So I don't know -- this isn't a post diagnosing my exact unease/dissatisfaction/lack of interest. But am I alone here, I wonder?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

New "Heavens, change the channel, this is boring" answers.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i have lived for times wihtout tv, but i missed it, and listeneed to the radio more...for human contact i guess...don't you miss it?

Queen G, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't watch anything regularly. I'll watch a Liverpool or an Ireland match in soccer. The odd rugby game, maybe horseracing if I have a bet. But generally I don't bother with TV. I watched Hot Potatoes last week and enjoyed becoming more and more indignant as it went on. That's when I enjoy TV the most sadly.

Ronan, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Is that it, though? Human contact? I don't feel like I lack it without TV.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't have a television at home so I seldom watch TV.

however, I do see TV occasionally - at work, at friends/relatives houses, etc.

I do kind of worry that the interweb can be become as intellectually corrosive as TV, for all its veneer of interactivity.

DV, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't. Probably about once every two weeks if that. This is not because of any great theory, but because I don't like one of my housemates and so I never really use the living room.

I was never one of these watch-it-because-it's-there types, so I don't really miss it. I read a lot, listen to music or the radio and quite frequently (too frequently really) have a spliff, stare into space and fall asleep.

The only thing I do miss is beeing able to join in with all the 'did you see ...?' conversations. That said most times I hadn't seen the programme in question anyway.

Anna, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't have a TV. The happy result of this is that when I do sit down and watch something at friends' or Isabel's I almost always really really enjoy it. When I move in to my new place I am going to watch documentaries all the time, even the shit ones are good.

Last thing I actually made a point of watching was The Century Of The Self.

Tom, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I find radio far more intimate and 'human' than televsion anyway.

Anna, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I guess I should also add I don't listen to the radio either...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I watch a great deal of TV. Well, I have the TV on.

jel --, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't get much opportunity these days. Sunday nights have become a bit of a thing recently with West Wing, 24 and then (ahem) the X- Files. Marvellous isn't it?

Nathan Barley, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't really watch tv either. I saw a bit of the Winter Olympics and I turn on the music stations not so much to WATCH but for a background while I practice for dance class. There's always some homework or book I could be reading instead. I think this is one of the reasons I felt mildly insulted when Momus said on the notorious Home Truths threads that everyone was regurgitating Fox TV cultural works. The books/politics I have learned are not from Fox but from school and friends on the internet. Maybe Rupert Murdoch owns my school then? I'd probably know more about the latest J-Pop artist who creates invisible houses if I watched tv but it's usually so boring, too many commericals.

Evangeline, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I wish I listened to music radio more but generally there's a CD to deal with.

Tom, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I guess I do watch a fair bit of tv but it doesn't seem that I do. I watch all the football I can but don't see that as counting. At home I have not watched much at all for the last couple of months. The only thing I currently make a point of watching is 24 and now, having seen it for the first time last week, Weird Nature. Having said that I can easily spend the evening with friends drinking and watching satellite tv.

Jonnie, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That's satellite tv at a friend's house as I don't have it.

Jonnie, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

TV blew up months ago, never got around to replacing it. Plus, TV shows are just so LONG. Who can sit for that amount of time?

dave q, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think I can safely say that if my television were to vanish, I really wouldn't notice it missing for a while. Except; I do like watching movies--so I would notice, you know, after a bit. I think the last series I really watched regularly was Full House in 1990.

Mandee, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This sounds made-up, but it's true: I just got up to turn off Half- Man Half-Biscuit to put on the TV for The Simpsons, and the line sung as I rose was "There's nothing to watch on TV." He was wrong.

Martin Skidmore, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't watch very much at all, really. In no small part due to increased internet use, yes. If I want human contact I go out with my friends or go in chat.

Ally C, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The only actual series I follow is Buffy. I usually end up seeing The Simpsons 3 times a day because there's nowt else on then, and nowt else to do, and I try to keep up on soaps. I should watch more TV, I feel I'm missing out on stuff.

Graham, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

hardly watched tv for 4 years; didn't miss it. now have a tv and watch (currently) buffy, simpsons, 24, occasional documentaries. but best reason to have a tv = you can watch videos, no?

toby, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My TV only works as a VCR/DVD monitor. Haven't had a functioning TV in over 10 years. Rarely miss it.

Douglas, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I watch an awful amount of television, mind you, if I'm not doing anything else on weekends I'm usually one of the ones sat there with jonnie and a few beers and the tv does tend to become more secondary to the witticisms, and bon-mots that fly around the room, well, the drunken slurrings anyway.

As I have Sky I watch a huge anmount of football, I'd watch it every day of I could, but I try not to watch too much nonsense and instead try and find gems on the food, travel and sports channels.

Of course, when bored or in need of music, there is the wanking MTV option.

chris, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i watch it for an hour or two a night , its like a glass of wine or grass, like lucy in the sky. A way to turn off and disenegage, though i have taken too many fucking film classes and well it fails miserably

anthony, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Does it count as "watching" tv if you have a glass eye?

Aimless, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Of course, when bored or in need of music, there is the wanking MTV option.

Now THAT'S what I call interactive cable!

Dan Perry, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

D'you know the ep of the Simpsons where Homer, trying to remember what he did at his party the night before (he was blind drunk, leering and abusive), recalls being the central figure in a marvellously civilised exchange of witty banter? That's cabbage, that is. It also amply demonstrates the favct that if I didn't watch television, I'd miss moments of genius like that.

Mark C, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I watched the Simpsons last night, but other than that I don't watch TV at all. I enjoy it, it's just that I cannot afford cable right now, and I'm always reading or listening to music anyways. It's a great way to get 'breaking news' I suppose, but other than that I have little use for it. It's like meat ... once it left my life, I didn't miss it.

Dare, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

last nite I ate monkfish wrapped in prosciutto followed up with fatted duck breast -- if TV had meat like that we'd all fall off the wagon! HBO has been getting tastier and tastier these days... i NEED my taxicab confessions; my sopranos (when the fuck is it going to be on again, anyway?); 6 feet under is starting to grow on me; ver simpsons of course; don't forget C-SPAN the GOD of all channels; and the metro channel a close runner-up; Rendez-View, the best dating show ever. yeah okay sometimes i make do on some thinner gruel. i am guilty of aimless floating, but sometimes you can score. my biggest hatred: flipping around restlessly during shows. i never do this—i prefer to mute the commercials instead and take a little break—but roomie flips and flips during every fallow second i guess thinking that there's something crucial somewhere else that he may miss FOREVER if he's not always ATTACKING.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I followed Buffy religiously for 3 years and The X-Files for 4...after awhile I get tired of wasting my nights in front of the tv and go out and then I don't know whats going on..lately I just watch the daily show and rent movies..and yes, the internet takes up any time i would have been in front of the tv + an hour.

kevin enas, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Got rid of cable over a month ago. Only watch the things I want to see (Futurama, Osbournes) by downloading the episodes off of USENET. Haven't looked back.

Chris Barrus, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Student without access to television in a (arguably) university town; so cultural referents among various social petri dishes I breed in have shifted away from TV. Hooray!

Ess Kay, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't watch tv, it's just that my only cultural references are "mapped almost exactly to Reupert Murdoch Fox TV schedules"...

It is easy to dismiss people based on their television habits, but in my defense, in between taking classes and work, I only get to spend an hour or so each day to myself. I've been too stressed to concentrate on reading a book for pleasure in that time (when I start a book I like to spend far longer than an hour on it). So tv becomes a nice little diversion, a way to cleanse the palette of all the worries I have right now.

I actually look forward to being done with classes later this week, so I will have more time to spend on creative things -- I tend to lose interest in television at times like that.

Nicole, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i did an AC Neilson survey thing once. it was a boring weekend afternoon and it was a welcome distraction from a Marketing assignment i had due.
"How many hours of television do you watch per week?"
"I don't."
*incredulous stare*
"I don't. We don't have a tv. look" *point to lounge, devoid of tv but with lovely valve-powered radiogramme*
[flustered] "ok *scribbles out 3-4 pages*...radio then, how many hours do you listen to per week"
"oh. lots. maybe 25, 30."
"which stations do you listen to?"
"National Ra..."
"oh. *scribbles out, agitated* that doesn't count. it's not a commercial station".

also, i don't like TV news, in all its infotainment glory. CNN news items just terrify me.

petra jane, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tom, maybe this is a silly question: if you don't have a TV and you don't do much listening to music radio, how the FUCK do you listen to enough current pop music to have a website about it, or know what to buy/burn? I always thought the reason I was generally so behind the times was because I didn't listen to the radio. In fact the only time I ever hear any new music is when I'm at a friend's house and they have MTV2.

Sam, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If you want my tv you'll have to pry it from my cold dead fingers etc etc

Andrew L, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Lots of telly. I come home and the first thing I do is stick the telly on. This is generally due to getting home and finding no-one in to talk to. THen I sit in front of it. If it's REALLY bad I will turn off and listen to music. Or I will mute it and read. More often it will be muted as I feel I'm so RELIANT on listening to music and that's the ONLY thing I'm doing, or READING and that's it - perhaps I just like the flickery lights. I lived without it for a while, and it wasn't that bad! I just read more and listened to music, but I'm defintely glad I have it now.

Sam, I don't have any cable channels and I don't often hear my new music on TV. However, the GYM has MTV which is where I heard Holly Valances new single and made me do an extra five minutes on the treadmill so I could hear that (and 'Lazy' which is NOT good gym mewsic) - I tend to be reliant on friends recommendations and hearing music in pubs/friends gaffs/gym.

Sarah, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I wish Little Mo would just fcuk off and go to prison by the way. Yes Trevor is a git but little Mo is ANNOYING AS ALL HELL.

Sarah, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I really should watch more TV. I know there is some really good stuff going on (watching one hour of 24 on Sunday - 6am - aconfirmed that) that I constantly miss because I am out. I wish the channels would have a better policy of repeating their flagship stuff at 12am (Ch4 does this with some comedies which was the only way I ever got to see Spaced and Black Books) - and if I mooch in the front room I'll generally try to watch something interesting. I also listen to loads of radio both speech and music - usually on the way from a-b. From an ownership point of view the fact that I own two TV's and four radios suggest I consume more than I do. In all though I probably watch about 5-6 hours TV a week and listen to about 30 hours of radio.

I probably watch too many films. The community aspect (human contact - something shared to talk about/at) is something I like the most about TV.

Pete, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I only watch Die Sendung mit der Maus.

Colin Meeder, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Which I should watch more carefully.

Colin Meeder, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The actress who plays 'Little Mo' was on 'Liquid News' last night - god she was horrible. Serves me right for watching 'Liquid News', I know I know

Andrew L, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i dont have a tv. i have never had a tv. except for the 1st + 2nd yrs of university. my parents never bought one and still dont have one. good? bad? indifferent.....thoguh maybe i'm glad, even if i felt liek a fuckin outcast during break-time neighbours analysis in the playground. (later on this bvecame discussing last nights 'the word'). BUT i had a bbc micro, which was better cos it ws interactive.

ambrose, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't have a TV (haven't since 1991 when I moved out of an apartment I shared with a room-mate), though I would like to get one some day. There always seems to be something else to spend my money on instead.

I remember a barber once saying to me something like, "You don't have a TV? You must really have to work hard to entertain yourself." I don't find it's much of an effort. Since getting internet access, I have to admit that I use it much the same way others might use the TV. Sometimes it is something to do when I am too tired to read the books I would like to read, which is often. But I also use it in more focused ways at times.

It was very strange not having a TV during after the 9/11 attack. I did feel a sense of being cut off from the people around me because of that.

DeRayMi, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sam - yeah good question. I listen to the radio in my girlfriend's car a fair bit, I keep my ears open to what other people are saying is good, download stuff when I can, bluff a lot, etc. There's a reason why the website I run isn't big into reviews though.

Tom, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And I listen to the radio a lot and am indeed about to post two reviews to nylpm.

Pete, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ah... I remember this NYLPM thing of which you speak... from way back in the mists of time of course...

Sarah, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've only truly started to watch TV, since my classes ended in February. And it's apparent I haven't missed much;> Other than "Buffy", "Angel", "Frasier", "Scrubs" and PBS specials, there is little I _do_ watch.

It's difficult not to feel disconnected from human contact. It's precisely why I don't like to watch a lot of TV. Somehow, I feel lazy. Computer interaction is totally different, for me: for the most part, you aren't "watching" the monitor; nothing happens unless you _do_ something.

Oddly enough, when I had cable a few years ago, I watched it a lot more...if you call Bravo "watching TV".

Since I'm moving though, I do wonder whether I'll miss the convenience of having it.

Nichole Graham, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

six years pass...

So it's a Golden Age for TV. Does "Kill Your TV" still resonate? And with so much quality programming, is there still a limit to how many hours of viewing can be enriching or healthful? How do you define quality TV?

small Frosty (wanko ergo sum), Thursday, 20 November 2008 14:16 (seventeen years ago)

if you ask me the only quality tv is sport. i prefer the radio.

behind the times (gem), Thursday, 20 November 2008 14:20 (seventeen years ago)

Been without for three years now and still don't miss it.

Who needs a TV when there's YouTube?

...it's all just a learning curve (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 20 November 2008 14:21 (seventeen years ago)

So it's a Golden Age for TV

it is? wasn't this a couple of years ago? I would agree with, say, 2005, when Buffy, the Sopronos, 6 feet under, gilmore girls, Lost, arrested development, deadwood were all on (if they were all all in 2005, it seems like they were), but not now.

akm, Thursday, 20 November 2008 14:23 (seventeen years ago)

funny tv is better on dvd - btw they took away my stolen cable

ice cr?m, Thursday, 20 November 2008 14:23 (seventeen years ago)

I don't watch TV on TV.

Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 20 November 2008 14:23 (seventeen years ago)

i don't watch TV, just hulu sometimes.

hyperspace situation (gbx), Thursday, 20 November 2008 14:24 (seventeen years ago)

akm, yes, but TV is still 1100% better than it was 10-15 years ago imo, when the anti-TV sentiment was running so hot

small Frosty (wanko ergo sum), Thursday, 20 November 2008 14:26 (seventeen years ago)

i watch sports and i download shows

ice cr?m, Thursday, 20 November 2008 14:26 (seventeen years ago)

lost is still on yo

n/a is just more of a character....in a genre polluted by clones (n/a), Thursday, 20 November 2008 14:27 (seventeen years ago)

does watching sports count? i watch a ton of hockey and college basketball, nothing else

the interthing replaced TV as a source of mindless entertainment long long LONG ago

the sir weeze, Thursday, 20 November 2008 14:28 (seventeen years ago)

tv on the internet.

;n_n; (tehresa), Thursday, 20 November 2008 14:34 (seventeen years ago)

justin.tv <----awz 4 sports

ice cr?m, Thursday, 20 November 2008 14:37 (seventeen years ago)

Going on ten years without TV. Definitely glad not to have the extra distraction while in law school -- the internet alone is bad enough.

Albert Jeans (Hurting 2), Thursday, 20 November 2008 14:40 (seventeen years ago)

I enjoy TV most on DVD. Although there's plenty of good distractions on regular television.

I watch a lot, usually while doing something else, knitting, reading, etc.

Bella Swan Song (Susan), Thursday, 20 November 2008 14:41 (seventeen years ago)

i pretty much watch all my tv shows on the computer these days

the head werewolf's girlfriend (latebloomer), Thursday, 20 November 2008 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

i really missed cnn et al during the campaign

ice cr?m, Thursday, 20 November 2008 15:41 (seventeen years ago)

I haven't had a TV since I left home 9ish years ago.

krakow, Thursday, 20 November 2008 22:23 (seventeen years ago)

Home entertainment system is surely one of the biggest pluses of adulthood.

Bella Swan Song (Susan), Thursday, 20 November 2008 22:28 (seventeen years ago)

funny tv is better on dvd

I'll agree with this. This is the first year I've been watching The Office as it originally airs, and the commercials sort of ruin the momentum. Half the time I miss it and watch it on Hulu the next day, anyway.

jaymc, Thursday, 20 November 2008 22:30 (seventeen years ago)

lived in a flat w/o tv in 05 and it completely killed the habit...only watch sports on tv now.

lex pretend, Thursday, 20 November 2008 22:33 (seventeen years ago)

I hardly watch any television, but a lot of that is because I only get reception on one channel (Fox, ugh), and a lot of the time it's fuzzy and makes buzzing noises. So I'm in the TV on DVD crowd, which is fine with me.

Z S on the internet (Z S), Thursday, 20 November 2008 22:35 (seventeen years ago)

i don't watch tv but i would, i guess. but now i've gone so long without it that when i watch it i don't really understand it and i think how can people watch this? mostly i mean how do people watch gray's anatomy but i guess that's different because not all tv is quite that bad?

bear of the teddy (harbl), Thursday, 20 November 2008 22:37 (seventeen years ago)

lord goddam pussy ass tv pussy bitches please step up my god

small Frosty (wanko ergo sum), Thursday, 20 November 2008 23:34 (seventeen years ago)

sorry that should be "tv watching bitches"

small Frosty (wanko ergo sum), Thursday, 20 November 2008 23:35 (seventeen years ago)

now there's almost too many good shows. like i still haven't watched mad men i heard that is awesome....don't have enough time!

banana thug (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 20 November 2008 23:36 (seventeen years ago)

no i like tv though, i am not a tv pussy bitch. i like shows about murderers and i like intervention.

bear of the teddy (harbl), Thursday, 20 November 2008 23:48 (seventeen years ago)

I only rly watch DVDs, I'll get seasons of TV shows on DVD if I can, avoids ads and you can watch at leisure. You have to also remember that cable doesn't have a big takeup in AU, and we get new TV series so delayed and then the commercial networks screw up the programming (play half a season, drop it, etc) that its just easier to get it on DVD (or torrent it if youre impatient, but I dont bother).

I occasionally watch Neighbours and the 7pm news when I get home but thats about all.

Trayce, Thursday, 20 November 2008 23:56 (seventeen years ago)

good grief this thread fuck yall

small Frosty (wanko ergo sum), Friday, 21 November 2008 00:05 (seventeen years ago)

i have a few shows i watch regularly if i'm at home when they're on - basically office, 30 rock, and how i met your mother. i'll watch the simpsons or seinfeld or whatever while i'm eating dinner. i have the tv on while i'm working in the morning though i'm not really watching closely: they show an hour of roseanne at 8, followed by perry mason. yeah i watch tv

n/a is just more of a character....in a genre polluted by clones (n/a), Friday, 21 November 2008 00:08 (seventeen years ago)

I watch tons of television and love it tons. And find sanctimonious blowhards who can't "understand" television the worst examples of humanity.

:)

Mordy, Friday, 21 November 2008 00:15 (seventeen years ago)

wtf that isn't even what i meant. i mean if you stop watching tv for a 6 months or so and come back to it, you would feel that way too

bear of the teddy (harbl), Friday, 21 November 2008 00:17 (seventeen years ago)

I haven't had cable or watched TV in my own space since 1997.

I happily indulge if I have free time if I have a motel/hotel room, though.

HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 21 November 2008 00:19 (seventeen years ago)

And find sanctimonious blowhards who can't "understand" television the worst examples of humanity.

I hardly think anyone in this thread has been anything like this!

Trayce, Friday, 21 November 2008 00:23 (seventeen years ago)

i watch lots of tv shows, but since i got my pvr i never watch them at the time they're on

thereminimum chips (electricsound), Friday, 21 November 2008 00:26 (seventeen years ago)

i have the tv on a lot, but there's only a few things that i make a point of watching. usually prefer to read a book or use the internets at the same time. still it can be a distraction; i could maybe live without it? do like it for sporting events and the like, though.

fela cooties (haitch), Friday, 21 November 2008 00:36 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, I was just being a jerk. It's not so much on ILX, but off ILX I run into people everyday who explain to me how much "above" television they are. Pisses me off.

Mordy, Friday, 21 November 2008 00:37 (seventeen years ago)

/oblig Onion "weaned off glass teat" article link

Trayce, Friday, 21 November 2008 00:44 (seventeen years ago)

those phony baloney "television? oh, yes, i believe i've seen a picture of one somewhere, how quaint, tell me about some of your little shows" people who ruin things for decent hardworking non-t.v. watching folks. those people who never admit that pop culture even touches their air or something.

scott seward, Friday, 21 November 2008 00:48 (seventeen years ago)

is this an East Coast thing? People who don't watch TV on the West Coast usually are really shy about it, or just shrug... no one makes a big deal out of not watching TV here.

HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 21 November 2008 00:50 (seventeen years ago)

It must be. They are crawling all over here.

Mordy, Friday, 21 November 2008 00:50 (seventeen years ago)

i've really got back into MASH lately....loving that show right now.

banana thug (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 21 November 2008 00:50 (seventeen years ago)

maybe! i only really know the east coast and there have always been a lot of smug t.v. haterz around if you know where to look.

scott seward, Friday, 21 November 2008 00:52 (seventeen years ago)

There was an article about some research about this in the Times yesterday or today. Don't know if I buy it.

Ruudside Picnic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 November 2008 20:12 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, I was just being a jerk. It's not so much on ILX, but off ILX I run into people everyday who explain to me how much "above" television they are. Pisses me off.

That attitude became a joke on metafilter way back when I had time to read it, the meme started out as "Is that (pop cultural reference) something I would need a TV to know about?" and became, in true meme fashion, "Is X something I would need a Y to know about?" spawning months of...well, maybe not hilarity.

One Community Service Mummy, hold the Straightedge Merman (Laurel), Friday, 21 November 2008 20:14 (seventeen years ago)

to people who are all smug abt shunning tv im always all arent you interested in culture your culture at all dont u like moving pictures

:) wealth destruction! (ice cr?m), Friday, 21 November 2008 20:15 (seventeen years ago)

look i just want to know why pushing daisies gets a second season and even showtime wont buy my 70s hot pilot orgy show

she should look better if she's gonna be a bitch like that (sunny successor), Friday, 21 November 2008 20:41 (seventeen years ago)

not everybody who shuns tv is actually smug about it however if you let it slip that you don't watch hardly any tv ppl will always go "you smug bastard, thinkin you're better than us"

J0hn D., Friday, 21 November 2008 20:53 (seventeen years ago)

i know plenty of people who don't watch tv or went thru a no tv period. some were definitely smug, most were just "eh, too busy / i stopped watching in college / my tv broke and i never replaced it"
i have never seen these people called out for being smug ever.

velko, Friday, 21 November 2008 20:58 (seventeen years ago)

I had free cable for like 10 years, and lost it over the summer...now, when you have free cable for 10 years, you just can't start paying for it...so, I don't watch TV at home anymore...and I don't miss it a bit, but whenever I hear myself 'splainin' this to people, I think "my, but aren't we a smug bastard!"

henry s, Friday, 21 November 2008 21:02 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah I'm a smug bastard but not about TV -- as anyone who's seen me fall asleep gazing at food porn in front of the Giada De Laurentis/Rachel Ray/Ina Garten line-up on the weekends.

One Community Service Mummy, hold the Straightedge Merman (Laurel), Friday, 21 November 2008 21:05 (seventeen years ago)

i love tv with all my heart

she should look better if she's gonna be a bitch like that (sunny successor), Friday, 21 November 2008 22:45 (seventeen years ago)

yeah tv is great fuck the haters.
some of us don't have satisfying lives, so we need this shit.

ian, Friday, 21 November 2008 22:51 (seventeen years ago)

i am going to get a tv in august 2009

bear of the teddy (harbl), Friday, 21 November 2008 22:56 (seventeen years ago)

i sometimes watch the channel 4 news and the simpsons.

THAT'S IT

stone cold all time hall of fame classics (internet person), Friday, 21 November 2008 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

l have always loved t.v. and i have always watched a ton. i've always been jealous of people who can live without. i would get a lot more done if i didn't watch. i do watch less now than i have in the past. that's for sure. though that election had me going for months on end.

when we first moved here we didn't have t.v. for about six months or maybe longer and it was great. i read a ton and wrote a lot. ended up listening to a buttload of npr on the radio. but i was also happy when we did finally get cable.

scott seward, Friday, 21 November 2008 23:04 (seventeen years ago)

when i was younger i could easily read a book while watching, but now i'm slower and my multi-tasking abilities ain't what they used to be. i do paint paintings when i watch t.v. though. and read lots of magazines while watching.

scott seward, Friday, 21 November 2008 23:06 (seventeen years ago)

i used to love friday night tv as a kid, channel four and bbc 2 would be SLAMMIN.

takeover tv, the word, don't forget your toothbrush, bottom, harry enfield, fast show, fist of fun, adam and joe, red dwarf, some foreign language film where you'd see a lady's bits, eurotrash, cheapo 80s sci-fi and horror, weird animated shorts, reruns of classics like blackadder or the young ones...

ride my bike around after tea for a bit, then watch these gems on my goldstar portable.

stone cold all time hall of fame classics (internet person), Friday, 21 November 2008 23:13 (seventeen years ago)

OMG friday night tv when i was a kid (7-8ish) was so great. i get mcdonalds or KFC and my mom would go out til 3am w/her boyfriend and id watch THE LOVE BOAT

she should look better if she's gonna be a bitch like that (sunny successor), Saturday, 22 November 2008 01:38 (seventeen years ago)

TV? I only read it for the articles, I never look at the naked pictures.

a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 22 November 2008 02:10 (seventeen years ago)

Not having Tv for me is like enjoying cheese (the food) but otherwise rarely eating it. BUT, Upon consuming the cheese after a long break,, it's so lively and enjoyable. Whereas if ate cheese everyday, it wouldn't pack any pinch, and it would be taken as granted.

I say this because I was watching close-captioned Kitchen Nightmares for the first last week, at a bar, and for that half hour, it was the best thing ever. Then I forgot about how enjoyable it was.

HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Saturday, 22 November 2008 06:11 (seventeen years ago)

I'm a bit drunct

HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Saturday, 22 November 2008 06:11 (seventeen years ago)

I spent the a year or so without tv and when I had one again I remembered how awesome tv is sometimes.

Mikaael Jackson (The Reverend), Saturday, 22 November 2008 06:13 (seventeen years ago)

a friend of my girlfriend doesn't have a television, and whenever its on at her house, he can't stop staring at it, and will watch WHATEVER is on.

slap bass: the ungentle art (stevie), Saturday, 22 November 2008 09:28 (seventeen years ago)

My ex sometimes gets cross when he comes over and I do put on even a DVD (let alone the TV) because he wants to talk to us all and the TV is distracting. I get this point - TV makes it too easy for people to sit together in a room and have no freaking interaction with each other. It has its uses, but like the internet, it really is socially damaging oh god I sound like an 80 year old, dear god.

Trayce, Saturday, 22 November 2008 09:44 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah but you're otm.

monkey bonkers (╓abies), Saturday, 22 November 2008 09:53 (seventeen years ago)

i need the tv on all the time even when im not watching it because fuck if im actually going to give my brain the silence to start thinking about stuff

she should look better if she's gonna be a bitch like that (sunny successor), Saturday, 22 November 2008 13:01 (seventeen years ago)

^^^^^^^A+, full agreement from every member of my family; it frustrates me sometimes but still

Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 22 November 2008 13:50 (seventeen years ago)

At the risk of sounding self-righteous, TV bores me. I was raised on it, and I've seen 1000 episodes of Three's Company like most people my age, but nowadays if I try to sit and watch television -- even (and really especially) cable news -- for more than about an hour, I start to go nuts. It is profoundly understimulating. Nothing makes me want to read a book more than watching TV.

Frasier is good, though. ;)

fiscal liberal (kenan), Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:31 (seventeen years ago)

I feel like TV is the informational equivalent of the Red Eye, the free newspaper that you get on the train in Chicago that has two pages of the top AP news stories, and 30 pages of things that did not need to be printed anywhere ever. You actually feel dumber when you're done reading it. TV is almost always like that for me. Even (and really especially) cable news.

fiscal liberal (kenan), Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:36 (seventeen years ago)

This is also why I stink at bar trivia.

fiscal liberal (kenan), Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:37 (seventeen years ago)

dont be so hard on yrself - an hour of cable news is a good run

:) wealth destruction! (ice cr?m), Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:40 (seventeen years ago)

not everybody who shuns tv is actually smug about it however if you let it slip that you don't watch hardly any tv ppl will always go "you smug bastard, thinkin you're better than us"

― J0hn D., Friday, November 21, 2008 2:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^ this. I don't think I'm better or smarter or any of that. I'm restless and I bore easily. That's all it really is. It's not like I learn or do great things when I'm not watching TV.

fiscal liberal (kenan), Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:42 (seventeen years ago)

Its the ads I cant bear. They're loud, compressed, offensive, stupid, and wind me up something fierce.

Trayce, Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:52 (seventeen years ago)

We just have a video projector and watch DVDs. No TV. When it was election time we'd just watch the debates at a friend's place. Worked out fine.

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:55 (seventeen years ago)

i want a video projector!

bear of the teddy (harbl), Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:58 (seventeen years ago)

Totally.

fiscal liberal (kenan), Saturday, 22 November 2008 15:25 (seventeen years ago)

I would watch TV more often if "The Cosby Show" was on 24 hours.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 22 November 2008 15:27 (seventeen years ago)

Its the ads I cant bear. They're loud, compressed, offensive, stupid, and wind me up something fierce.

― Trayce, Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:52 AM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^^^^ The first time I seriously went without TV was after moving in with my uncle when I was 18...probably for about six months. Went back home and I could not believe how plastic and condescending it all sounded. I mean, I knew it was that bad, but until then it just washed over me like nothing.

Also, what Kenan's sayin.

monkey bonkers (╓abies), Saturday, 22 November 2008 15:35 (seventeen years ago)

I've taken a break from most of the crap I've been watching for the past week and feel much better, becaue frankly most TV isn't very good right now and I've been wasting my time with rubbish (dirty sexy money? this thing is going to get cancelled, why waste my time?)

akm, Saturday, 22 November 2008 15:37 (seventeen years ago)

Plus the title is ridiculous.

fiscal liberal (kenan), Saturday, 22 November 2008 15:39 (seventeen years ago)

well yeah but it seemed like it was going to be good last year. the cast is great. the show is terrible.

akm, Saturday, 22 November 2008 15:53 (seventeen years ago)

If there is one thing that I can take or leave with equal enthusiasm, it's television.

When I was the quiet loner who lived next door, I rarely watched television. I went nearly a decade without cable, watching everything on rabbit ears. I just went to the bars more often.

But even though I consider myself not a TV person, I do enjoy being able to watch anything at any time with our expanded cable package and DVR. I was skeptical about letting my daughter watch too much TV, but she loves to dance in front of it and was counting along with one of the shows this morning. She gets plenty of book time as well.

I was raised in a household where the damn TV was ALWAYS on. My dad was the kind of guy where if I was sitting alone in the living room quietly reading a book, he would come in and look around with a confused look on his face, turn the TV on, and then leave the room. Partly based on that, I still resent the idiot box a little bit.

But not enough to salivate over AT&T offering me a way to watch my fantasy football stats change in real time while I watch a Chiefs game.

⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 22 November 2008 17:07 (seventeen years ago)

Happy people don't watch tv, apparently.

Kerm, Saturday, 22 November 2008 17:26 (seventeen years ago)

I dig lots of TV but don't leave it on as background noise or anything. I generally sit down to watch something specifically, and nowadays it's always on the DVR which makes TV 1000x better. No commercials, no worrying about what time stuff is on, no flipping channels aimlessly. I won't even watch stuff live anymore, I'll wait until it's half done so I can skip commercials.

a better command of the mummy language (joygoat), Saturday, 22 November 2008 18:13 (seventeen years ago)

he would come in and look around with a confused look on his face, turn the TV on, and then leave the room.

this is why your father an i get along so well

she should look better if she's gonna be a bitch like that (sunny successor), Sunday, 23 November 2008 18:54 (seventeen years ago)

My TV-watching life:

Ages of earliest cognizance-age 16: every fucking sitcom ever, and Nightline or 20/20-type shows, and cartoons, and PBS, a good five hours a day during school and more in the summer. (We didn't have cable.

Ages 16-20: Just sometimes watched TV, but hogged the TV for MTV2 if I was at the house of a friend who had cable.

Age 20: Moved to Boise, MTV2 was free???!!! But it didn't show a lot of videos. A lot of time getting high and staying up at 2 a.m. when they did show videos.

LATER at age 20 I did mushrooms for the first time and an after effect was getting actively angry at a television every time I saw one, leading to me not watching TV for two years.

22-on: Usual stuff: Colbert, Frontline, House, whatevs, blah blah blah. I think John got me into watching TV again.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Sunday, 23 November 2008 19:35 (seventeen years ago)

I had nothing to do here for the first week I moved here besides be sick and not have a job, and I got really addicted to Dr. Phil. 5 p.m.-6 p.m. was the one good hour of my day.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Sunday, 23 November 2008 19:37 (seventeen years ago)

last nite I ate monkfish wrapped in prosciutto followed up with fatted duck breast -- if TV had meat like that we'd all fall off the wagon!

OH FUCKING MAN I WOULD EAT THIS SO HARD

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Sunday, 23 November 2008 19:38 (seventeen years ago)

I've watched obscene amounts of television in my time, but these days I find it difficult to do. I try to catch 60 Minutes, but usually end up forgetting to...I try to watch The Office, but usually end up catching it on hulu the next day.

I get free cable somehow, but nothing particularly seductive. If I had TCM I might never go outdoors.

del (dell), Sunday, 23 November 2008 20:39 (seventeen years ago)

when we had a kid I wondered about how much to expose him to, and decided not to worry about it. he didn't watch or see it that much before he was one which was probably good, but he's two and a half now and it's pbs all morning. his verbal skills and general mental acuity seem to be way beyond a lot of other kids his age so I don't think it's hurt and sesame and stuff definitely probably helped him learn to count and the alphabet. the other thing is that by letting him watch some of it, he can kind of take it or leave it now, he doesn't demand it and it can be on and he barely pays attention.

akm, Sunday, 23 November 2008 21:06 (seventeen years ago)

I'm very much pro-telly when it comes to my kids. I realize the (good) children programs can teach them things.

TV makes it too easy for people to sit together in a room and have no freaking interaction with each other.

RONG. This could apply to reading just as much, if not more. With television you do tend to chat between eachother or at the very least comment. With reading (or even knitting, which I do) one tends to talk much less. (Actually with knitting I do tend to talk if it's a simple project.)

I have a really kneejerk reaction when someone proudly proclaims s/he doesn't have television, doesn't watch it, as though it suddenly makes him/her more enlighted. Kneejerk in the sense my foot wants to hit'em between the legs. That's not to say I watch a lot of telesion programs. I usually stick to the Wire (and other tv shows) boxsets.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Sunday, 23 November 2008 21:07 (seventeen years ago)

It's not like I learn or do great things when I'm not watching TV.

yeah, I'm no smug fuck, I just waste my time in other ways, possibly even less productive! At the times when I do watch TV I find myself doing absolutely nothing with my time other than waste it, so it's generally best to avoid. I'm only trying to avoid becoming a slug.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 23 November 2008 21:43 (seventeen years ago)


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