October 15: Third presidential debate (Hofstra University – Long Island, New York)

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a thread title we can stand.

goole, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 20:45 (seventeen years ago)

my prediction: mccain will bring up ayers in the clumsiest, cringiest, failiest way.

goole, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 20:46 (seventeen years ago)

He'll cough it out. "(cough)AYERS(cough), oh, excuse me."

Sara Sara Sara, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 20:48 (seventeen years ago)

"Kill that one"

Simmer 1 Tire Tread or Dead Crow for 15 minutes (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 20:50 (seventeen years ago)

I don't want to know the context but this McCain/Paul gif is yes

http://www.libertymaven.com/wp-content/uploads/paulownsmccain.gif

Simmer 1 Tire Tread or Dead Crow for 15 minutes (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:02 (seventeen years ago)

a MAIN STREET debate

who else will Bam promise to kill?

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:07 (seventeen years ago)

shut up

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:08 (seventeen years ago)

save that aggression for 2009 rationalizations, you may need it

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:11 (seventeen years ago)

Is there anyone he could promise to kill that would make you endorse him, Morbo? One of the Mets' relievers perhaps?

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:13 (seventeen years ago)

keep it local: AJ Pierzynski and all the Daleys?

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:17 (seventeen years ago)

Am I the only one who gets mildly offended when people take this position, condescendingly warning (e.g.) Democratic voters that OMG, certain ideals may not be magically and aggressively upheld by electable politicians? What kind of presumption of idiocy/naivete is involved in thinking there is any call whatsoever for you to inform people of that? (Isn't it possibly more naive to think this is some sort of significant point, despite many voting adults having got over around age 19 or so?) This bothers me...

― nabisco, Monday, October 13, 2008 4:01 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Better way of putting what I'm saying, maybe: whenever someone whose ideals lie slightly outside the consensus of mainstream parties says that he/she supports a mainstream-party candidate, people who share those ideals immediately start patronizing him/her by pointing out how that party is insufficiently committed to those ideals. This is silly: the voter never made any claim that the party was. The voter has simply made the sensible decision to vote for the candidate who seems the most useful tool in advancing those aims. The voter does not deserve to be presumed so clueless or credulous that he or she believes anything more than that.

― nabisco, Monday, October 13, 2008 4:11 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

jaymc, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:18 (seventeen years ago)

A good argument except if you're throwing your vote away in a safe state.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:20 (seventeen years ago)

what nabisco sez is why I voted for Bam in the primary. sort of.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:21 (seventeen years ago)

what the fuck does that even mean, morbius uh xpost about the safe state vote throwing away thing

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:21 (seventeen years ago)

Q: why do you say such stupid shit tho like "OBAMA WANTS TO KILL PEOPLE."

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:22 (seventeen years ago)

schef I think he is saying "BOXCAR"

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:22 (seventeen years ago)

morbius will not be happy until this man is president:
http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/mrmets.jpg

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:24 (seventeen years ago)

i mean morbs i kind of agree with you, obama is totally not a "progressive" candidate and will most likely b/c of the financial crisis not be able to do half of the shit that he planned, so that's gonna suck but why you gotta say dumb shit like this.

who else will Bam promise to kill?

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:24 (seventeen years ago)

A pragmatic vote need not be a resigned vote.

jaymc, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:24 (seventeen years ago)

voting is no substitute for cracking heads, tho. **sigh**

goole, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:25 (seventeen years ago)

afaik the only person Obama has committed to killing is Bin Laden, which I am okay with. This idea that he's got a covert agenda to bomb Iran or whatever is just ridiculous.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:26 (seventeen years ago)

hey morbius osama bin laden is a bad dude and people want him dead but hey if all you get from that is OMG OBAMA IS PANDERING TO THE ELECTORATE then you can be my cranky, obnoxious guest

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:26 (seventeen years ago)

i might vote for a 3rd party candidate in MN if O looks solid on election day. i wouldn't if i lived in OHq

the valves of houston (gbx), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:26 (seventeen years ago)

also morbs please stop calling him BAM i mean we know you have a boner for mr. margera but let's leave our man barack out of your sordid skater fantasies

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:28 (seventeen years ago)

i voted for nader in virginia in 2000, for what that is worth

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:29 (seventeen years ago)

Even though I know it's all about the electoral college, it'd be nice to see Obama elected with a sizeable margin in the popular vote, too.

jaymc, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:29 (seventeen years ago)

i might vote for a 3rd party candidate in MN if O looks solid on election day. i wouldn't if i lived in OHq

Remember when a bunch of Minnesotans did the same thing and accidentally elected a professional wrestler as governor?

A friend of mine up there says she went to work that day and was horrified that everyone in the office was going "Omigod, I did too! I didn't think anyone else would!"

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:37 (seventeen years ago)

i knew plenty of people that WANTED him to be gov

the valves of houston (gbx), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:39 (seventeen years ago)

Even though I know it's all about the electoral college, it'd be nice to see Obama elected with a sizeable margin in the popular vote, too.

― jaymc, Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:29 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

I think Obama agrees with this, which is why he's dropping $5m on a 30 minute infomercial

caek, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:43 (seventeen years ago)

I thought Minnesotans were too nice to say that they WANTED anything.

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:44 (seventeen years ago)

Oh no, we deny it thrice and then it magically turns into coffee and cinnamon buns.

jane hussein lane (suzy), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:46 (seventeen years ago)

....swedish coffee?

the valves of houston (gbx), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:51 (seventeen years ago)

No, I really shouldn't, I just had a little lunch.

jane hussein lane (suzy), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:52 (seventeen years ago)

You sure?

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:54 (seventeen years ago)

I'm at a frustrating crossroads myself. I know too much history not to partially identify with Morbs and the Counterpunchers' electoral anomie; it's why I left the Democratic party a few years ago. But I liked Obama since his 2004 convention speech. He's clearly the most intelligent candidate of my lifetime. If he wins he might make a fine president, or he might make an awful one. Putting wingnuttery aside, I do suspect that a smart feller like Obama harbors imperial ambitions. For most presidents it's been their path to greatness (and infamy). The economic collapse has been the best thing for both candidates: neither will have the money to pursue war.

None of this is too well considered; I'm still sorting through my suspicions. The best I can hope for from an Obama adminstration, given this mess and the state in which the Bush administration has left the CIA, Department of Justice, FBI, and US attorney's office, is the most judicious caretaker presidency of our lifetime.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:55 (seventeen years ago)

sounds about right

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:56 (seventeen years ago)

although I think there's some best-case scenario ideas in here

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 22:03 (seventeen years ago)

i sorta wish they'd get the CCC up and running again

the valves of houston (gbx), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 22:05 (seventeen years ago)

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0dwN6hh8KF3ma/610x.jpg

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 02:05 (seventeen years ago)

I'm on the Sean Willentz side, Shakey.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 02:12 (seventeen years ago)

So hoping for a moment that was an ashtray in the center.

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 02:42 (seventeen years ago)

mccain's screwed if he's going to do the ayers thing. it doesn't help that nothing high profile's happened since his play-fair intervention - he's bound by the narrative of rising against dirty unscrupulous attacks. it's such a weak claim, anyway - it gives obama the chance to compare their histories, say politicians aren't going to have long, distinguished careers without working with enemies, and rise above it in sweet presidential fashion.

what questions are you all hoping for? episode ii was totally a reduxe of episode i.

schlump, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 03:06 (seventeen years ago)

debate 1: foreign policy
debate 2: economy
debate 3: ???

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 03:08 (seventeen years ago)

debate 1: public demand economy hi-jack
debate 2: economy
debate 3: "domestic policy focus"

the daily show cut up on jmc's new speech versus old speech is gold, with the added bonus of overlaying two clips making it sound like there's a nineteen eighty-four echo on mccain's voice.

schlump, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 03:16 (seventeen years ago)

so this debate is going to be the gun control/abortion snoozefest?

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 03:18 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.slate.com/id/2202179/

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1869/390pxwhatif34an1.jpg

deep you (tremendoid), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 03:19 (seventeen years ago)

I'd love to see the Dem's brief crushing majority go towards something useful. Here's hoping.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 03:38 (seventeen years ago)

gun control = snoozefest with lots of reassuring and placating voters
repro rights = genuine microcosm of polar-opposite-attitudes involved, grossly neglected and hugely important, illustrative of gulf in tactics when raised during the preacher forum thing:

Q. At what point does a baby get human rights in your view?

MCCAIN: "At the moment of conception. I have a 25-year pro-life record in the Congress, in the Senate. And as president of the United States, I will be a pro-life president and this presidency will have pro-life policies. That's my commitment, that's my commitment to you."

OBAMA: "Well, I think that whether you are looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity, you know, is above my pay grade. But let me just speak more generally about the issue of abortion because this is something obviously the country wrestles with. One thing that I'm absolutely convinced of is there is a moral and ethical content to this issue. So I think that anybody who tries to deny the moral difficulties and gravity of the abortion issue I think is not paying attention. So that would be point number one. But point number two, I am pro-choice. I believe in Roe v. Wade and come to that conclusion not because I'm pro-abortion, but because ultimately I don't think women make these decisions casually. They wrestle with these things in profound ways. In consultation with their pastors or spouses or their doctors and their family members. And so for me, the goal right now should be -- and this is where I think we can find common ground -- and by the way I have now inserted this into the Democrat party platform -- is how do we reduce the number of abortions because the fact is that although we've had a president who is opposed to abortions over the last eight years, abortions have not gone down. ... I am in favor, for example, of limits on late term abortions if there is an exception for the mother's health. Now from the perspective of those who, you know, are pro-life, I think they would consider that inadequate. And I respect their views. I mean, one of the things that I've always said is that on this particular issue, if you believe that life begins at conception, then -- and you are consistent in that belief, then I can't argue with you on that because that is a core issue of faith for you. What I can do is say are there ways that we can work together to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies so that we actually are reducting the sense that women are seeking out abortions, and as an example of that, one of the things that I've talked about is how do we provide the resources that allow women to make the choice to keep a child. You know, have we given them the health care that they need. Have we given them the support services that they need. Have we given them the options of adoption that are necessary. That I think can make a genuine difference."

schlump, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 03:58 (seventeen years ago)

jmc's new speech

Please don't call him this.

jaymc, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 04:01 (seventeen years ago)

haha

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 04:01 (seventeen years ago)

Good job in 2000, Que.

what the fuck does that even mean, morbius uh xpost about the safe state vote throwing away thing

Your vote in NY does nothing to elect Obama, is what. ie, "Don't Even Bother Voting" ;)

Look kidz, gimme a break -- I've said I hope Obama wins. If HillRod was the nominee I'd be telling you there is literally no reason to prefer her to McCain.

As for tonight, go Dodgers.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 13:12 (seventeen years ago)

McCain's put himself in a lose-lose situation when it comes to Ayers. If he doesn't bring him up, he looks like a wimp after Obama's "say it to my face" moment. If he does bring him up, Obama has had ample time to cook up a response that puts the issue to bed.

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 13:28 (seventeen years ago)

I had a dream about this debate last night. Apparently I had a friend over and we were doing something else (maybe watching Project Runway) and then we both realized in horror that we missed the debate. I decided that I wanted to know who "won" the debate beforehand so I could breathe easy not worrying about Obama imploding, but I didn't want debate spoilers so I went to CNN.com and tried to look only at the poll results. They were 70ish-20ish in Obama's favor. I did catch one spoiler though: McCain brought up Ayers twice.

Then I realized that it was 10pm and the debate lasted 90min so my friend would miss her last bus and I couldn't drive her because my mom's the only one with a car. The end.

ILX MOD (musically), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 15:36 (seventeen years ago)

Alfred, this Sean Wilentz?

In 2008 Wilentz was an outspoken supporter of the of Sen. Hillary Clinton. He wrote numerous essays analyzing Sen. Barack Obama's campaign, charging Obama with creating "manipulative illusions" and "distortions," and having "purposefully polluted the primary electoral contest" with "the most outrageous deployment of racial politics since the Willie Horton ad campaign in 1988." During the Democratic national convention, Wilentz charged in Newsweek that "liberal intellectuals have largely abdicated their responsibility to provide unblinking and rigorous analysis" of Obama. "Hardly any prominent liberal thinkers" have questioned his "rationalizations" about his relationship to his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., or "his patently evasive accounts" of his "ties" to the "unrepentant terrorist William Ayers." For Wilentz, Obama is untested, cloudy, problematic — and liberal intellectuals have given him a free ride. Wilentz came under heavy attacks from the intellectual stance for his criticism of Obama.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 15:41 (seventeen years ago)

As for tonight, go Dodgers.

Yeah, totally! Something we can agree on.

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 15:44 (seventeen years ago)

They were 70ish-20ish in Obama's favor.

this is excellent news!

rent, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 16:00 (seventeen years ago)

did you see where the DOW closed?

rent, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 16:00 (seventeen years ago)

McCain's put himself in a lose-lose situation when it comes to Ayers. If he doesn't bring him up, he looks like a wimp after Obama's "say it to my face" moment. If he does bring him up, Obama has had ample time to cook up a response that puts the issue to bed.

obama is clearly provoking mccain purposefully into bringing this up so he can respond directly. it's such a smart move.

"if your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him"

Edward III, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 16:34 (seventeen years ago)

Alfred, this Sean Wilentz?

The same.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 16:57 (seventeen years ago)

In what sense are you on his side? A Clinton supporter who criticizes Obama's ties to "unrepentant terrorist William Ayers" doesn't exactly blend in with the Counterpunch crew.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 16:59 (seventeen years ago)

I'm just a bit puzzled is all. Is the excerpt a misrepresentation of his stance?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 16:59 (seventeen years ago)

I've never heard of him before and that was in his wikipedia entry, so I have no idea what Alfred's referring to fwiw

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 17:01 (seventeen years ago)

In what sense are you on his side? A Clinton supporter who criticizes Obama's ties to "unrepentant terrorist William Ayers" doesn't exactly blend in with the Counterpunch crew.

No, bros. I agreed with Willentz' aversion to looking back at the New Deal for inspiration.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 17:03 (seventeen years ago)

He wrote that textbook on Jeffersonian democracy. His new book on Reagan isn't bad either.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 17:04 (seventeen years ago)

the "newspapers" that "Bam" comes from

http://gothamist.com/attachments/jen/2008_01_bam.jpg

gabbneb, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 17:15 (seventeen years ago)

repro rights = genuine microcosm of polar-opposite-attitudes involved, grossly neglected and hugely important, illustrative of gulf in tactics when raised during the preacher forum thing

i hope they ask them how is babby formed

and what, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 17:17 (seventeen years ago)

xp: never saw em there before, you dipshit

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 17:17 (seventeen years ago)

Impossible. Three people could never come up with something that clever independently. Two, maybe, but not three.

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 17:38 (seventeen years ago)

Senator McCain, reproductive rights are a hot-button issue in the culture wars. With that in mind I ask the question that I'm sure is on the minds of millions of single-issue voters: how is babby formed?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 18:15 (seventeen years ago)

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/the_debate_watch_it_before_it.php

The Debate: Watch It Before It Happens

15 Oct 2008 12:51 pm
Who is this "Batman" guy anyway?

mccain's friends (jeff), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 18:33 (seventeen years ago)

Will the gay marriage issue be raised in this debate? My guess is it might, with Bob Schieffer in the moderator's seat.

The recent Connecticut Supreme Court decision allowing gay marriages will take effect on Oct 28, at which time photos of jubilant gay couples will hit the news cycle just before the election. I can't help but be reminded of the bin Laden tape released in late Oct 2004.

My impression is that the anti-gay vote won't be nearly big enough to keep Obama out of the White House, but it could increase fundie turnout and maybe shave a couple of Senate seats off the Dem total.

Aimless, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 18:34 (seventeen years ago)

My guess is it might, with Bob Schieffer in the moderator's seat.

he's queer?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 18:36 (seventeen years ago)

My impression is that the anti-gay vote won't be nearly big enough to keep Obama out of the White House, but it could increase fundie turnout and maybe shave a couple of Senate seats off the Dem total.

this is so three months ago. No one cares about fags and terrorists when 401K's are evaporating.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 18:36 (seventeen years ago)

"in the moderator's seat"

mccain's friends (jeff), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 18:40 (seventeen years ago)

Schieffer is a crypto-Republican and not above raising issues he thinks will help McCain and hurt Obama. And never underestimate the power of single-issue politics to bring single-issue voters out of their funk. The Palin Effect is wearing off, but a new jolt of Teh Gay Lifestyle Phear could bring out the ones who are otherwise too discouraged.

Aimless, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 18:41 (seventeen years ago)

people who are "concerned" about that are already voting for mccain/palin. if all the other shit hasn't gotten them off their fat asses and to the ballot box, i don't think gay marriage will.

omar little, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 18:44 (seventeen years ago)

what is the basis for the allegation that Schieffer is a crypto-Republican or might use his position for partisan purpose? that his brother was named an Ambassador by Bush?

gabbneb, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 18:50 (seventeen years ago)

Schieffer is secretly married to Mike Wallace.

I heard Bob S crowing once in an interview that initial suspicions were that JFK was killed by a right-wing plot, but "it turned out to be a left-wing plot."

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 18:52 (seventeen years ago)

Schieffer (co)wrote one of the best critical Reagan bios.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 18:53 (seventeen years ago)

schieffer has long counted gwb as one of his closest friends

YGS, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 18:54 (seventeen years ago)

Schieffer is writing a book titled "Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of McCain"

I DIED, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 18:58 (seventeen years ago)

kill him!

omar little, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 18:58 (seventeen years ago)

Schieffer is the older brother of Tom Schieffer, a friend and former business partner of President George W. Bush, who was appointed U.S. Ambassador to Australia 2001-2005 by President Bush and as of November, 2005 is currently the U.S. Ambassador to Japan.

so, good job by the Commission on Presidential Debates once again!

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:00 (seventeen years ago)

I heard Bob S crowing once in an interview that initial suspicions were that JFK was killed by a right-wing plot, but "it turned out to be a left-wing plot."

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, October 15, 2008 2:52 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

any ref on this, you ass? google brings up nothing, fucking idiot

and what, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:01 (seventeen years ago)

lol, kill yourself already, Googlebot

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:02 (seventeen years ago)

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?

ian, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:05 (seventeen years ago)

he's just baiting whenever he's not 'bating.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:06 (seventeen years ago)

aren't we all?

ian, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:09 (seventeen years ago)

(i know i am.)

ian, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:09 (seventeen years ago)

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z235/booth-g-dawg/jerkoff.gif

omar little, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:12 (seventeen years ago)

sorry i trust searching the internet more than the addled memory of an obese, aging queen

and what, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:13 (seventeen years ago)

dr. morbius is a lot of things but he is certainly not obese

max, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:25 (seventeen years ago)

morbiusly obese

Edward III, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:26 (seventeen years ago)

come watch the debate and let me sit on you.

I am NOT a lot of things.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:27 (seventeen years ago)

"if your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him"

― Edward III, Wednesday, October 15, 2008 11:34 AM (2 hours ago)

goole, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:29 (seventeen years ago)

Edward III, Act IV, scene 2

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:30 (seventeen years ago)

Exit pursuing a bear

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:31 (seventeen years ago)

exquisite!

Aimless, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:33 (seventeen years ago)

there was an ancient gay-owned video rental place in my old neighborhood that had a stand-up from disney's "brother bear" in the window for the longest time. i never quite understood why...

goole, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:39 (seventeen years ago)

every gay video store should have a Bob Schieffer section.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:40 (seventeen years ago)

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:41 (seventeen years ago)

schieffer has long counted gwb as one of his closest friends

i don't think this is quite accurate, is it? it seems they - fellow texans - were friendly and hung out before bush became president, and perhaps a little since then. i don't see why that means, as schieffer has said, that he agrees with him on policy matters or that he would act partially.

gabbneb, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:46 (seventeen years ago)

his brother being a Bush appointee not as objectionable as Gwen Ifill's unseen book?

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:57 (seventeen years ago)

Would this make a difference if the moderator were Dick Cheney or Condolezza Rice? I mean I understand this debate is pivotal, but it's more one for Obama to lose -- and I don't think he will lose it, hence he will win it. shrug.

Woman Who Force Madonna At House Party To Make Bold Statement (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 20:37 (seventeen years ago)

didn't he do one of the Kerry/GWB debates?

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 20:40 (seventeen years ago)

Godspeed ladies and gents. I'm off to my my amigo's apartamento to witness this ruckus. here's hoping the pain gets brought this time. I want McLame to get all jowly and flustered trying to serve his base with the Ayers wankery. We'll soon see..

Pillbox, Thursday, 16 October 2008 00:45 (seventeen years ago)

BBC debate coverage on terrestrial, where the HELL is it? I have nasty snooker here.

Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 00:56 (seventeen years ago)

pbr is a buck fiddy right now, I'm only starting my second one.

the RHETERIC (kingfish), Thursday, 16 October 2008 00:57 (seventeen years ago)

3 am innit?

sarah palin isn't post-modern, she's dumb (cozwn), Thursday, 16 October 2008 00:57 (seventeen years ago)

SURLY FURIOUS AT THE READY

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 00:58 (seventeen years ago)

oh no, sorry, 2am; it's on bbc news 24 right now, suzy, dunno if tht helps?

sarah palin isn't post-modern, she's dumb (cozwn), Thursday, 16 October 2008 00:58 (seventeen years ago)

We've got it on five live, but no pics, snooker on BBC2 instead of usual debate stuff.

Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:00 (seventeen years ago)

maybe red button?

sarah palin isn't post-modern, she's dumb (cozwn), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:03 (seventeen years ago)

I'm already sick of Schieffer. Let them explain their own plans, Bob.

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:03 (seventeen years ago)

beloved nancy reagan

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:03 (seventeen years ago)

9:04PM ET first bullshit bomb blaming Fannie and Freddie

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:05 (seventeen years ago)

ah shit, I'm already bored

Dan I., Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:05 (seventeen years ago)

RED VS BLUE TIES

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:05 (seventeen years ago)

this is such Repub bullshit, because they can lay Fannie/Freddie on Dems xpost

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:06 (seventeen years ago)

switcheroo!

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:06 (seventeen years ago)

Nancy Reagan hates McCain irl

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:06 (seventeen years ago)

BORING

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:06 (seventeen years ago)

NANCY REAGAN LOVES YOUR FIRST WIFE YOU FUCKER

Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:06 (seventeen years ago)

RW: will hit O on "the fundamentals of the economy were weak before"

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:07 (seventeen years ago)

RW = right wing

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:07 (seventeen years ago)

not river wolf

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:07 (seventeen years ago)

pro tip suzy: if you download zattoo to your mac you can watch bbc news 24 on that

czn (cozwn), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:07 (seventeen years ago)

totally incoherent opening from mccain

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:07 (seventeen years ago)

he can't even look at obama

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:08 (seventeen years ago)

PLUMBER!

carson dial, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:08 (seventeen years ago)

oh not that fucking dickhead plumber.

Dan I., Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:08 (seventeen years ago)

PLUMBER ALERT

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:08 (seventeen years ago)

I wonder if Joe the plumber drinks six-packs of beer

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:08 (seventeen years ago)

why is obama nodding?!

czn (cozwn), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:08 (seventeen years ago)

we now know who planted him

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:08 (seventeen years ago)

Joe the OBVIOUS PLANT plumber

Dan I., Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:08 (seventeen years ago)

he is so FUCKING OLD

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:08 (seventeen years ago)

why would he bring this up. can't O just reiterate what he already said? also, clearly dude was a plant

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:09 (seventeen years ago)

JOE THE FUCKING PLUMBER, JUST LIKE YOU AND ME

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:09 (seventeen years ago)

ZING

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:09 (seventeen years ago)

glol from me thr

czn (cozwn), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:09 (seventeen years ago)

Joe bin watching some ads

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:09 (seventeen years ago)

lol at Martin's scorecard on CNN - "One kid seems to LOVE the Speedo guy!"

http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/gallery/screenshots/4f12/4f12_016.jpg

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:09 (seventeen years ago)

Obama's expression:

YOU SNOTTY NOSED BASTARD

http://a2.vox.com/6a00c2252704628e1d00d09e836d72be2b-320pi

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:09 (seventeen years ago)

obama gently destroyed the plumber

vermonter, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:10 (seventeen years ago)

HAHA loved the Joe the Plumber callback

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:10 (seventeen years ago)

CLASS WARFARE

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:11 (seventeen years ago)

so fucking gross

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:11 (seventeen years ago)

class warfare! Drink!

the RHETERIC (kingfish), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:11 (seventeen years ago)

ugh don't say class warfare

harbl, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:11 (seventeen years ago)

stop saying spread the wealth around as if it's a bad thing!!! stop saying joe the plumber!!!

czn (cozwn), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:11 (seventeen years ago)

class warfare oh jesus fucking christ

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:11 (seventeen years ago)

wow is McCain incoherent or what

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:11 (seventeen years ago)

man dustin off the scary goblins. Next Obama gonna nationalise the coal mines

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:12 (seventeen years ago)

we should have instituted drinking rules for "joe the plumber"

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:12 (seventeen years ago)

JOE THE PLUMBER YEAH YEAH HAD A FEW DRINKS ON THE HOUSE AND HE WAS A FORTUNE TELLER

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:12 (seventeen years ago)

"In the McCain administration we're going to keep concentrating wealth at the top!"

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:12 (seventeen years ago)

I'm starting to think Joe the Plumber was an Obama plant

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:12 (seventeen years ago)

How the fuck is a 250k a year dude being represented as everyman?

Dan I., Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:12 (seventeen years ago)

that'd be some fucking judo, kenan

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:13 (seventeen years ago)

who the hell said obama was a center right dem?

czn (cozwn), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:13 (seventeen years ago)

hmmmm kenan

omar little, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:13 (seventeen years ago)

mccain is just so gross and smug

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:13 (seventeen years ago)

McCain already made this Ireland point in the first debate, didn't he? Which was pretty easily debunked by Obama?

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:13 (seventeen years ago)

JOE TO MOVE TO DUBLIN!

carson dial, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:13 (seventeen years ago)

wish UK's center right was america's center right if tht's so

czn (cozwn), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:13 (seventeen years ago)

you wanna know about Ireland's income and sales tax grandpa?

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:13 (seventeen years ago)

Is there some kind of advantage to wearing a hallucinogenic moire tie that I don't know about? Are the candidates hypnotizing us right now?

Dan I., Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:13 (seventeen years ago)

Yes, let's follow the example of world economic powerhouse Ireland

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:13 (seventeen years ago)

same old same old

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:14 (seventeen years ago)

Also, yeah, you ever had to hire a plumber? Fucker those price-gouging bastards! Tax Joe the Plumber! Tax him an extra plumber tax!

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:14 (seventeen years ago)

LOL at McCain condescendingly laughing @ his own "joeks"

he's beating O on the cnn line thingy tho

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:14 (seventeen years ago)

HEALTH SCARE SYSTEM

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:15 (seventeen years ago)

a little vague, O :-/

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:15 (seventeen years ago)

what the hell is mccain writing

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:16 (seventeen years ago)

Ugh. Obama's rambling.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:16 (seventeen years ago)

boring = drink

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:16 (seventeen years ago)

PROPOSE CUTTING THE DEPT OF VETERAN AFFAIRS, YOU DOOF

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:16 (seventeen years ago)

vaaaaaaaaaaaague

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:16 (seventeen years ago)

wha???

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:16 (seventeen years ago)

The CNN line thingy ain't gonna make up for a 10-pt lead.

This is dull.

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:16 (seventeen years ago)

"Let me not answer the question now, Bob."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:16 (seventeen years ago)

can't wait til we can look back on this and laugh that people were worried the old guy and dumb lady might get elected

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:17 (seventeen years ago)

DURING THE DEPRESSION _WE_ HAD...

omg lolz

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:17 (seventeen years ago)

"profligate" DRINK

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:17 (seventeen years ago)

ut oh...HE JUST SAID NOTHING!!! THAT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD AT ALL

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:17 (seventeen years ago)

mccain remembers the depression

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:17 (seventeen years ago)

he's doing the stump speech again

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:17 (seventeen years ago)

The McCain plan v. 17: reinflate the house price bubble

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:17 (seventeen years ago)

"Let me show you the size of my scapel, Bob..."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:17 (seventeen years ago)

why didn't he mention the war costing less because we're not in it anymore

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:17 (seventeen years ago)

O, i mean

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:17 (seventeen years ago)

whoah, cross over on CNN

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:18 (seventeen years ago)

hatchets, scalpels, IT'S A BLOODBATH

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:18 (seventeen years ago)

Has David Gergen just been making a cocktail for the last 15 minutes instead of doing his scorecard?

govern yourself accordingly, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:18 (seventeen years ago)

spending freeze when you're facing a recession. WTF, hello depression. Keynes, anyone?

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:18 (seventeen years ago)

HE KNOWS

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:18 (seventeen years ago)

Sully:

9.09 pm. Simple human observation. Obama looks straight into the camera more intently than McCain does. He looks straight at McCain much more comfortably than McCain looks at Obama. And when McCain is asked whether he wants to ask Obama a question, a simple no would suffice. McCain's sudden look of horror at the prospect was not good television.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:18 (seventeen years ago)

mmm sugary biofuels

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:18 (seventeen years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ANHD0Z3GL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:19 (seventeen years ago)

oh hell no that damn projector!!

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:19 (seventeen years ago)

overhead!

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:19 (seventeen years ago)

return of the projector

mccain's friends (jeff), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:19 (seventeen years ago)

glol overhead projector

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:19 (seventeen years ago)

cant mccain utter a sentence without sounding agitated or angry

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:19 (seventeen years ago)

mccain: NO SPENDING ON PUBLIC EDUCATION.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:19 (seventeen years ago)

Cut Taxes! Create Jobs! Thank you!! [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Joe the Plumber is my hero. He brought this out of McCain.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:19 (seventeen years ago)

yeah he is spazzing out

bnw, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:19 (seventeen years ago)

McCain just doesn't want the planetarium to have the best possible floyd laser show

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:19 (seventeen years ago)

finally pointing out the bullshit in the earmark attack

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:20 (seventeen years ago)

jesus the "overhead projector" again

ps McCain read your fucking Keynes. An across-the-board spending freeze in a recession = disaster

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:20 (seventeen years ago)

obviously not, he's an agitated angry old guy

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:20 (seventeen years ago)

seriously he can't even keep his cool long enough to talk clearly

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:20 (seventeen years ago)

is mccain sniffing and wheezing again?

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:20 (seventeen years ago)

yeah he's really losing his gloves here , it's all smirks and SILLY POSES

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:20 (seventeen years ago)

Fuck you you fucking cunt, we are all know you're a dick, you don't need to dump on the planetarium

the RHETERIC (kingfish), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:20 (seventeen years ago)

MCCAIN: I WILL BALANCE THE BUDGET BY DROPPING INTO THE CONGRESS VIA PARACHUTE

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:21 (seventeen years ago)

God I just wanna slap that smirk off of McCain's face. We've had eight years of smirking incompetence.

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:21 (seventeen years ago)

o needs to come back hard on tht bush comment

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:21 (seventeen years ago)

I am still baffled by just how far behind US TV seems to be behind the BBC website feed

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:21 (seventeen years ago)

But he is not Bush. You wanna slap smirks off, shoulda done it four years ago xp

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:21 (seventeen years ago)

furiously blinking and saying "I will do..." a lot.

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:21 (seventeen years ago)

England is 8 hours ahead, that's probably why

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:21 (seventeen years ago)

wardrobe malfunction protection

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:22 (seventeen years ago)

Citizens Against Government Waste = FUCKING CRACKPOTS SAY IT O

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:22 (seventeen years ago)

a balanced budget in the next 4 years regardless of the candidate is extreme bs

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:22 (seventeen years ago)

caek, our effing FCC is probably delaying it in case McCain goes all tourettes and says dirty words...

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:23 (seventeen years ago)

reaching across aisles drink

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:23 (seventeen years ago)

fox zing

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:23 (seventeen years ago)

FURIOUS MCCAIN BLINK

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:23 (seventeen years ago)

gooood fox news comeback there

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:23 (seventeen years ago)

Christ, McCain almost imploded!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:23 (seventeen years ago)

zing on FOX news

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:23 (seventeen years ago)

EVEN FOX NEWS SUCK IT SMIRKY

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:23 (seventeen years ago)

got a bigger laugh for fox news than mccain did for shoulda run four years ago

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:23 (seventeen years ago)

WHAT IS MCCAIN WRITING

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:24 (seventeen years ago)

I'VE GOT THE SCARS TO PROVE IT

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:24 (seventeen years ago)

O is really good at cool and calm pwning

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:24 (seventeen years ago)

scars to prove it

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:24 (seventeen years ago)

HE WASN'T VOTED MISS CONGENIALITY YOU GUYS

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:24 (seventeen years ago)

old man's got scars from everything

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:24 (seventeen years ago)

GET NEW LINES OR AT LEAST SCARS

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:24 (seventeen years ago)

The war in Iraq, which I vigorously oppose

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:24 (seventeen years ago)

Someone please check Gergen's pulse, or take away his copy of people or something

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:25 (seventeen years ago)

ooooh here comes ayers?!

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:25 (seventeen years ago)

how are ahead ARE you?

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:25 (seventeen years ago)

okay, here we go...

ps: i love bob scheiffer

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:25 (seventeen years ago)

oh gosh!

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:25 (seventeen years ago)

HEEEEEEEEEEEERE WE GO

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:25 (seventeen years ago)

tough campagin. not looking at O.

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:25 (seventeen years ago)

the writing, seriously, what's up with that

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:26 (seventeen years ago)

he's writing his obit AND contrition speech with congrats to O

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:26 (seventeen years ago)

feels like we're about 30 seconds ahead

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:26 (seventeen years ago)

lol

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:26 (seventeen years ago)

duh O has had 2 opportunities to bring up Ira now and hasnt - in both the spending & the party line thing. why isnt he??

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:26 (seventeen years ago)

oh hell no, mccain didn't just go there with jfk

Dan I., Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:26 (seventeen years ago)

IraQ

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:26 (seventeen years ago)

IT'S ON

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:26 (seventeen years ago)

ugh lewis

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:26 (seventeen years ago)

WAHT! REPUDIATE!!!

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:27 (seventeen years ago)

Poor McCain

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:27 (seventeen years ago)

is mccain going to repudiate palin's "pals around with terrorists"?! wtf

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:27 (seventeen years ago)

mccain almost going for a biden choke up moment there

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:27 (seventeen years ago)

suppose mccain did shake his head at the lady that said obama was an arab

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:27 (seventeen years ago)

there is so much BS in this statement, wow

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:27 (seventeen years ago)

"I'm the real victim here!!!"

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:27 (seventeen years ago)

ok i was wrong this isn't boring, I am glued to this

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:27 (seventeen years ago)

he hasn't said shit about any of the negative shit his own campaign has done

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:28 (seventeen years ago)

100% negative

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:28 (seventeen years ago)

how the fuck did obama become to one having to defend himself on this topic???

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:28 (seventeen years ago)

100% of mccain's ads are negative!! wowsers

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:28 (seventeen years ago)

THE one

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:29 (seventeen years ago)

baffling

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:29 (seventeen years ago)

ahhhh not interested in our hurt feelings!! interested in issues??? say it isn't so...
can it be that the sympathy card didn't play????

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:29 (seventeen years ago)

he's avoiding a John Lewis repudiation.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:29 (seventeen years ago)

don't hear much repudiating going on in here

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:29 (seventeen years ago)

Man, if O could whip out that California "Waterboard Obama" thing right now that would be amazing.

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:29 (seventeen years ago)

O didn't repudiate (and he shouldn't have), but the Corner is gonna go apeshit

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:30 (seventeen years ago)

obama could be dispelling and scoring more here

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:30 (seventeen years ago)

Economist:

9:18: Literally every time Mr McCain starts speaking, CNN’s rolling meter of uncommitted Ohio voters plunges.

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:30 (seventeen years ago)

football

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:30 (seventeen years ago)

OH GOOD FOOTBALL

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:30 (seventeen years ago)

oh, so now play the just a fella watching sports card

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:30 (seventeen years ago)

i like how Obama is responsible for whatever famous black people say

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:30 (seventeen years ago)

THESE are the ads he's bringing up as negative????

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:31 (seventeen years ago)

attack ad on mccain's healthcare plan /= mccarthyist attack ads on obama's character

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:31 (seventeen years ago)

9.26 pm. Schieffer's moral equivalence between the despicable smears of the McCain campaign with the toughness of Obama's.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:31 (seventeen years ago)

Sully, of course.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:31 (seventeen years ago)

I can't wait to hear what the BBC's pair of random freaks make of this later

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:31 (seventeen years ago)

plumb away, plumb the depths!

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:31 (seventeen years ago)

yes, finally he brings up the rallies

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:31 (seventeen years ago)

BAM

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:31 (seventeen years ago)

"kill him", "terrorist" wowsers!!!!

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:32 (seventeen years ago)

Hehe

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:32 (seventeen years ago)

oBAMa

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:32 (seventeen years ago)

GO FOR IT O

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:32 (seventeen years ago)

unprecedented, funds cuz O has raised so much more than rich old bastard McCain -----repudiation----- drink~

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:32 (seventeen years ago)

drink every time mccain smirks

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:32 (seventeen years ago)

obama's change message is so solid; he's got it down pat

he can turn ANY topic onto it

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:33 (seventeen years ago)

more tits less tats 2008

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:33 (seventeen years ago)

boy, is it me, or that McCain snort and chuckle after these responses?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:33 (seventeen years ago)

INTERRUPTING MCCAIN GOES MOOOOO

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:33 (seventeen years ago)

McCain pleading "shut him up" look at Mod there

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:33 (seventeen years ago)

he's proud of the people!

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:33 (seventeen years ago)

"Yeah, we have differences, but you shouldn't call them out in your ads, because that's negative." Incoherent freak.

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:33 (seventeen years ago)

no one said anything about those ppl, dogg

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:34 (seventeen years ago)

oh Christ wtf

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:34 (seventeen years ago)

tit for tat made M snicker - was he picturing the wardrobe malfunction? Now he's stepping all over O's talking...that's a strategy for the LOSER. A last ditch effort in fact.

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:34 (seventeen years ago)

pls post jpg of tshirt mccain is unhappy with kthx

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:34 (seventeen years ago)

What did the t-shirts say?!

Stevie T, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:34 (seventeen years ago)

damn son those people who say you palling about with terrorists are WAR HEROES son. Patriots.

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:34 (seventeen years ago)

holy shit mccain has gone off the deep end

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:34 (seventeen years ago)

cry! Cry on camera!

the RHETERIC (kingfish), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:34 (seventeen years ago)

he is so angry and sad

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:34 (seventeen years ago)

repudiated! everybody drink!

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:34 (seventeen years ago)

Need to be repudiating Palin then, M

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:35 (seventeen years ago)

this is the same old fucking say something that isn't true as if it's true and then act like it's true and make it reality

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:35 (seventeen years ago)

this?
http://data.tumblr.com/A2pKzdBmFf3uw0p9aRijJDIMo1_500.jpg

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:35 (seventeen years ago)

lol

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:35 (seventeen years ago)

GAAH MY EYES.

Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:35 (seventeen years ago)

WHUT?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:35 (seventeen years ago)

NON SEQUITUR

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:35 (seventeen years ago)

Obama is one stone-cold calm motherfucker.

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:36 (seventeen years ago)

AYERRRRRRRRRRRRRRS

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:36 (seventeen years ago)

his telling it all to his face right now, here goes

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:36 (seventeen years ago)

acorn! fraud!

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:36 (seventeen years ago)

don't laugh, O

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:36 (seventeen years ago)

"air quotes"

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:36 (seventeen years ago)

now is the Ayers talk in the USA

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:36 (seventeen years ago)

mccain is being a bit negative here...

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:36 (seventeen years ago)

bring it

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:37 (seventeen years ago)

haha xp

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:37 (seventeen years ago)

acorn and ayers! He's wide open, go for it, o!

the RHETERIC (kingfish), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:37 (seventeen years ago)

let's fucking do it, O

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:37 (seventeen years ago)

way to set this straight!!!!!!!!!!!!!! finally!!!!!!!!!!!!

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:37 (seventeen years ago)

could have belittled it a little more

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:37 (seventeen years ago)

He's not that kinda guy.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:38 (seventeen years ago)

Obama is OWNING this. And McCain knows it, too - he's got the thousand-yard stare.

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:38 (seventeen years ago)

Ayers explanation by O = win. dispelled. ACORN explanation solid rationale by O = win Score: Bama.

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:38 (seventeen years ago)

oh shit the BUFFETT CARD

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:39 (seventeen years ago)

OH SNAP
OH SNAP
OH SNAP
OH SNAP
OH SNAP
OH SNAP
OH SNAP
OH SNAP
OH SNAP

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:39 (seventeen years ago)

BAM

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:39 (seventeen years ago)

to his face!

the RHETERIC (kingfish), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:39 (seventeen years ago)

stay on it

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:39 (seventeen years ago)

M looks like a Jim Henson Muppet - is there a hand up his ass animating him?

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:39 (seventeen years ago)

"that's not the facts"

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:39 (seventeen years ago)

this is getting sad

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:39 (seventeen years ago)

hahahaha

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:39 (seventeen years ago)

fuck off, john

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

no mercy

omar little, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

ASHOSSHHSIASHHION

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

love the laughing in McCain's face

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

FURIOUS BLINKING ENSUES...

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

hoooo

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

OMG THESE QUESTIONS ARE SO GREAT

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

obama laughing now was just priceless

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

AWESOME

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

lol defend palin coming up!

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

Obama's all like "What can I even say anymore? This dude is nuts."

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

tricky otm

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

OMG OMG OMG the running mate Q

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

PALINNNNNNNNNNN

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

:D :D :D :D

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

Obama should just pass up his time on this for McCain

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:41 (seventeen years ago)

can obama rip into palin here? prty pls

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:41 (seventeen years ago)

okay, this question is a total gimme for Obama though

Dan I., Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:41 (seventeen years ago)

Scheiffer is kinda great, innit he?

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:41 (seventeen years ago)

as far as drama goes, Obama won that round.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:41 (seventeen years ago)

I like where this is going.

Stevie T, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:41 (seventeen years ago)

mcCain looks like his has fucking acorns stuffed in his fucking face

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:41 (seventeen years ago)

the questions are good. at the beginning i was preparing for complete rehash of the other debates.

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:41 (seventeen years ago)

This debate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all others amirite?

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:41 (seventeen years ago)

ja, bob scheiffer is bringing the hurt

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:41 (seventeen years ago)

Scheiffer>>>> ad infinitum>>Brokaw

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:42 (seventeen years ago)

think i heard "scranton" while i was getting a beer

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:42 (seventeen years ago)

mccain: lol i dont care abt some silly terrorist

obama: yr whole campaign is abt the terrorist

mccain: well we need to know more abt the terrorist!

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:42 (seventeen years ago)

love it. here comes the what experience does your Veep have to help run the country. Biden - foreign policy on a calibre of Kissinger. Winkin Palin = Zip. But she makes a helluva moose stew!

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:42 (seventeen years ago)

joe "sixpack" biden

joe "the plumber" biden

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:42 (seventeen years ago)

mccain gonna say something like "Palin ace cos she agrees with me that we need to create more jobs to let Joe the plumber live the American dream"

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:42 (seventeen years ago)

Ambinder:

9:32: Is anyone looking at their 401ks this week and thinking about John Lewis? Obama gets to rotate this question back to the tenor of politics, generally. McCain's .... again, this is the real McCain. He feels dishonored by Obama..... McCain's defending his rally...somewhat inarticulately, but powerfully presented. I just don't know how this comes across. One feels for McCain...but...McCain disagrees with tee-shirts at rallies?

9:30: McCain goes back to the ads and takes them personally. This is the real McCain here. He takes process stuff as seriously as cancer. McCain does force Obama to explain the Lewis comments, which Obama gets to put his spin on. Obama brings up: "Terrorist." "Kill him."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:42 (seventeen years ago)

ie drink

jho lol

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:42 (seventeen years ago)

lolo at "if something happened to ME"

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:42 (seventeen years ago)

role model to women, eh?

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:42 (seventeen years ago)

The problem for Mcain here is that he can't say shit about his good friend in the Senate, the Honorable Mr. Joseph Biden.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:43 (seventeen years ago)

hahaha!

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:43 (seventeen years ago)

"that one's going to die in office and leave you w/ the dumb lady"

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:43 (seventeen years ago)

lol bresh of freth air

harbl, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:43 (seventeen years ago)

what they call the lower 48 lolololOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:43 (seventeen years ago)

threath of bresh

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:43 (seventeen years ago)

breast of frest share

remy bean, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:43 (seventeen years ago)

"Autism is on the rise"

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:43 (seventeen years ago)

playing the Downs card!

Dan I., Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:43 (seventeen years ago)

CURE AUTISM

remy bean, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:44 (seventeen years ago)

SPECIAL NEEDS FAMILIES DRINNKKKKKKK

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:44 (seventeen years ago)

SIGNAL TO THE BASE

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:44 (seventeen years ago)

ARRGGGH. YAY BAMA! went to the what if I am dead - who better to run the country than Biden!!!! Ut oh, McCain stumbles over his words when talking about the old boy network of which he is a part....

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:44 (seventeen years ago)

haha only men like the palin talk on cnn's line thingy, women: boo

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:44 (seventeen years ago)

the downs card isn't even a card

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:44 (seventeen years ago)

lol CNN women line is absolutely flat and men's line looks like Everest while M talks about Palin

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:44 (seventeen years ago)

THE LOOMING SPECTRE OF AUTISM

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:44 (seventeen years ago)

uh, her son has down's, not autism

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:44 (seventeen years ago)

Christ just say no she's not qualified

badg, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:44 (seventeen years ago)

he won't

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:44 (seventeen years ago)

hehe special needs

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:44 (seventeen years ago)

SNAP

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:44 (seventeen years ago)

again with the writing

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:45 (seventeen years ago)

what the fuck is he talking about

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:45 (seventeen years ago)

that's Obama's best comeback ever.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:45 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah that was delicious

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:45 (seventeen years ago)

hehe cockamamie

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:45 (seventeen years ago)

COCKAMAMIE

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:45 (seventeen years ago)

he's going after BIDEN

Gukbe, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:45 (seventeen years ago)

he was too nice

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:45 (seventeen years ago)

I wonder if the autism thing was a sort of "secret Republican code message" or whatever to the antivaccination people.

C-L, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:46 (seventeen years ago)

cockamamie is finish the bottle

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:46 (seventeen years ago)

"You don't want to spend more on autistic children?"

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:46 (seventeen years ago)

SAY IT OBAMA

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:46 (seventeen years ago)

COMMUNIST

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:46 (seventeen years ago)

dithering

badg, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:46 (seventeen years ago)

autism was just mccain zinging dennis leary

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:46 (seventeen years ago)

"Why does everything have to cost so much these days?"

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:46 (seventeen years ago)

CLIMATE CHANGE mind you

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:46 (seventeen years ago)

is mccain saying that obama urging change is urging climate change?

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:47 (seventeen years ago)

man US tv hours behind

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:47 (seventeen years ago)

http://img.skitch.com/20081016-qu82iduqd9dwgdq38xcys95qny.jpg

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:47 (seventeen years ago)

mccain sucks air - is he gonna pass out?

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:47 (seventeen years ago)

WHAT?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:47 (seventeen years ago)

B-b-b-b-but Canadians are mostly dirty socialists too!!

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:47 (seventeen years ago)

lol mccain hates venezuela

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:47 (seventeen years ago)

"as the extreme environmentalist he is, he'll insist that it'll have to be safe"????

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:48 (seventeen years ago)

environmentalists aren't worried about the safety of nuclear PLANTS, you jackass

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:48 (seventeen years ago)

gee, I wonder how McCain got cancer......

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:48 (seventeen years ago)

iraqis united as...iraqis...

omar little, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:48 (seventeen years ago)

he's doing the list again stop just doing the list

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:48 (seventeen years ago)

HARRRRUMPH

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:48 (seventeen years ago)

If anythingn, 'bama's being too cool. Lots of Reagan-esque zingers here.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:48 (seventeen years ago)

clean coal = jerking off appalachia

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:48 (seventeen years ago)

BRING UP NEVADA

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:49 (seventeen years ago)

Sully:

9.46 pm. "We're seeing Iraqis united as Iraqis." Yes, McCain just said that. Yes: the next president could be even more delusional about Iraq than the current one.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:49 (seventeen years ago)

why Obama hatin on Venezuela? Dirty socialism?

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:50 (seventeen years ago)

why is mccain using a sharpie to take notes?

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:50 (seventeen years ago)

lol Gergen woke up

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:50 (seventeen years ago)

old man's hands and eyes

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:50 (seventeen years ago)

easier to read a sharpie

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:51 (seventeen years ago)

bold black lines are easier to see than that squiggly pen xp

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:51 (seventeen years ago)

MIND MELD

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:51 (seventeen years ago)

tht shit bleeeeeeeeeds

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:51 (seventeen years ago)

McCain looks like Robert Blake in Lost Highway.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:51 (seventeen years ago)

sharpie means if his pad runs out he can just keep going on the desk and whatever else is around

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:51 (seventeen years ago)

this is slightly more painful and boring than the other two. by my intermittent attention it seems like mccain isn't doing too badly. he is a little more testy and on his points. obama is just like he always is.

goole, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:51 (seventeen years ago)

"i'm in the white house right now!"

omar little, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:51 (seventeen years ago)

hahah "you really have to pay attention to words"

no shit

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:51 (seventeen years ago)

"you really have to pay attention to words"

gotcha!

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:51 (seventeen years ago)

YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION WORDS

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:51 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/people/shows/blake/interactive/gallery/07.lost.highway.jpg

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:51 (seventeen years ago)

Drill baby drill.

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:52 (seventeen years ago)

DRILL TODAY DRILL NOW DRILL BABY DRILL

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:52 (seventeen years ago)

whoa "look at," then this stream of outright lying. Wow.

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:52 (seventeen years ago)

>McCain looks like Robert Blake in Lost Highway.

HAHAHA

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:52 (seventeen years ago)

McCain is doing that tongue thing!!!

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:52 (seventeen years ago)

oh man if he had said "drill baby drill" i would have downed my beer

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:52 (seventeen years ago)

dammit i guess there is an implicit joke in my last post

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:52 (seventeen years ago)

yeah the tongue thing is like a lizard

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:52 (seventeen years ago)

but but, columbia sends us good coke!

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:52 (seventeen years ago)

WHAT COLUMBIA WHAT?

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:52 (seventeen years ago)

did he just try to zing O on NOT TRAVELING

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:52 (seventeen years ago)

jesus guys stop spelling it wrong

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:53 (seventeen years ago)

O I UNDERSTAND IT FINE

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:53 (seventeen years ago)

OH

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:53 (seventeen years ago)

EYEROLLING FROM MAC

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:53 (seventeen years ago)

We only want columbia's illegal exports, moran, trade agreements have dick all to do with columbia

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:53 (seventeen years ago)

I know that if we could touch Ms face we could rip it off and find an alien reptile skin underneath!

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:53 (seventeen years ago)

ANOTHER MCCAIN SNORT

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:53 (seventeen years ago)

that was really patronising from mccain

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:54 (seventeen years ago)

Is McCain blinking out messages past his Viet Cong captors?

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:54 (seventeen years ago)

Great rebuttal on topic nobody gives a shit about. Make sure you make yr case very clear to the other people that don't care

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:54 (seventeen years ago)

colOmbia colOmbia colOmbia... ok I'm learned it good

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:54 (seventeen years ago)

dudes at work w/o tv....is obama winning? comments are too lol heavy to judge

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:54 (seventeen years ago)

Obama needs to stop with the understanding (condescending) smiles imo.

Joe Pinot (rockapads), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:54 (seventeen years ago)

highly fuel efficient flying cars of the future

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:54 (seventeen years ago)

cool is the right word for it alfred huh huh

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:55 (seventeen years ago)

obama is winning

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:55 (seventeen years ago)

remember that thread on ILE a while back about spelling pecadillos? Where i went off on people not knowing how to spell Colombia? And a whole bunch of ILX was all 'obviously it's 'Colombia' -- how else would you spell it?' and then made fun of me? Yeah, well[...]

― remy bean, Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:24 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

remy bean, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:55 (seventeen years ago)

Obama might be talking about beehives on the moon, but he's considerably more wonky than McCain, who's reduced to winking, nudging, and practically showing tit.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:55 (seventeen years ago)

FUEL EFFICIENT CARS . . . OF THE FUTURE!!!!

http://lorry.org/Misc/Animationart/picture-jetsons-gerry-dvorak.jpg

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:55 (seventeen years ago)

Maybe you don't understand what an economic crisis is Sen. Obama, because you never traveled to 1930!

President Keyes, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:55 (seventeen years ago)

I can't spell for s**** when I am in a rush and pissed off. sorry. COLOMBIA - but at least I can pronounce Hugo Chavez' name unlike M....

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:56 (seventeen years ago)

Obama needs to stop with the understanding (condescending) smiles imo.

imo it's good, it's disarming and it shows that mccain's attacks aren't sticking

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:56 (seventeen years ago)

Barack Obama =/= Herbert Hoover

B.L.A.M., Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:56 (seventeen years ago)

when did chavez become a bogeyman for joe the plumber

xp no i think the smiles are slightly condescending

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:56 (seventeen years ago)

Josephine the plant worker!

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:57 (seventeen years ago)

"Senator Obama, I knew Herbert Hoover. I worked with Herbert Hoover, and you are Herbert Hoover!"

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:57 (seventeen years ago)

if those women were younger than 50, obama just lost two votes

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:57 (seventeen years ago)

ugh i am pleased the colombia issue was brought up. though, unfortunately, i tend to think that mccain is right on it.

remy bean, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:57 (seventeen years ago)

lol xxp

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:57 (seventeen years ago)

Obama looking straight into the camera = good move

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:57 (seventeen years ago)

Ugh. The Corner's down. Where do I go for astute running commentary??

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:58 (seventeen years ago)

thing about this plan is, national insurance really only works if everyone's in it, so that healthy ppl pay for the sick

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:58 (seventeen years ago)

what is the CNN meter like?

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:58 (seventeen years ago)

hi dere you know what we can do about chavez is not buy his oil anymore, i guess we'll talk about that after the election

stet otm about health care

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:58 (seventeen years ago)

wow, the CNN line is pegged at the top for Obama on the insurance thing

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:58 (seventeen years ago)

speaking of s-am lol fast thread why Obama hatin on Venezuela? Dirty socialism?

too bad ...but not surprising

Sébastien, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:59 (seventeen years ago)

SCHWARZENEGGAR AS PHYS ED CZAR

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:59 (seventeen years ago)

parent across america are saying "ARE YOU CALLING MY CHILD FAT?!?!"

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:59 (seventeen years ago)

joedrink

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:59 (seventeen years ago)

are you sebastien chikara?

xposts

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:59 (seventeen years ago)

old buddy joe

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:59 (seventeen years ago)

say it aint so joe

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:00 (seventeen years ago)

OLD BUDDY JOE

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:00 (seventeen years ago)

stop the pointing w/ your weird fingers my friend

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:00 (seventeen years ago)

ehh, obama hatin' on chavez is totally fair.

remy bean, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:00 (seventeen years ago)

joetwice

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:00 (seventeen years ago)

Well, Joe's going to be taken care of, what about the rest of us?

Dan I., Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:00 (seventeen years ago)

someone cue Obama as Putin eyeball takin' over the world.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:00 (seventeen years ago)

lol "if you're out there"

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:00 (seventeen years ago)

you'll love canada and england douche

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:00 (seventeen years ago)

oh FFFFF here is the damned 5k thing again. 5K "my friend" don't buys shit in the USA for health care.
BTW - everybody drink "MY FRIEND".

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:00 (seventeen years ago)

"Zero?"

joe the famous plumber (jeff), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:01 (seventeen years ago)

ehh, obama hatin' on chavez is totally fair.

otm

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:01 (seventeen years ago)

haha snap

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:01 (seventeen years ago)

here's your fine: kiss my ass!

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:01 (seventeen years ago)

fuck this joe dude

xp people are laughing at Obama's jokes, I don't think they've lolled at McCain yet?

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:01 (seventeen years ago)

Actually, I love the NHS, you old freak..

carson dial, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:01 (seventeen years ago)

BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK

NO FINE??? WHAAAAA???????? BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:01 (seventeen years ago)

you'll...like....candidate....

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:01 (seventeen years ago)

lol mccain looked genuinely surprised by the zero fine

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:01 (seventeen years ago)

McCain's tie looks rainbow psychedelic

Hot Pants Floyd (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:01 (seventeen years ago)

Right now on CNN, men's line is above the same amount that women's is below while McCain talks.

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:01 (seventeen years ago)

"here's your fine: kiss my ass!"

haha!

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:01 (seventeen years ago)

i'm getting bother by jmc's pulsating jaw

joe the famous plumber (jeff), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:01 (seventeen years ago)

dude, McCain's face when Obama said "I exempt small businesses" :O

burt_stanton, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:02 (seventeen years ago)

hahaha obama stealing mccains imaginary friend

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:02 (seventeen years ago)

jhoshea otm

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:02 (seventeen years ago)

I wanna see plumber joe's plumber's crack. you know it's there....

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:02 (seventeen years ago)

Overall, has CNN lines been favoring either candidate?

Mordy, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:02 (seventeen years ago)

I mean, it's a pretty technical point, but that was a great zing

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:02 (seventeen years ago)

McCain is all "I need to think up a zing or a lie right quick!"

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:02 (seventeen years ago)

also, 5k don't buy shit

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:02 (seventeen years ago)

old and not so healthy folks, like my opponent...

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:02 (seventeen years ago)

mccain's blinking too much, way way too much, it's universal language, he's freaked the fuck out, he loses no matter what he says

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:02 (seventeen years ago)

O's just said that xp

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:03 (seventeen years ago)

BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:03 (seventeen years ago)

blink blink blink 5k v. 12k??? ut oh, secret's out.

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:03 (seventeen years ago)

http://joetheplumber.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/joetheplumber.jpg.w300h274.jpg

joe the famous plumber (jeff), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:03 (seventeen years ago)

I looked into mccain's eyes and even though they were blinking at a mental rate I saw three letters

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:03 (seventeen years ago)

JOE YOU"RE RICH

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:03 (seventeen years ago)

hey joe

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:03 (seventeen years ago)

uh Joe is fucking rich

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:03 (seventeen years ago)

HEY JOE ok he is officially insane now

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:04 (seventeen years ago)

hey guess what guys mccain just congratulated me for being rich!

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:04 (seventeen years ago)

Is this joe thing really the mccain campaign ace up their sleeve? REAALLY?

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:04 (seventeen years ago)

JOE/PALIN 2012

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:04 (seventeen years ago)

JOE YOU'RE RICH!!!!!!!!!!

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:04 (seventeen years ago)

YAY!

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:04 (seventeen years ago)

absolutely crackers

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:04 (seventeen years ago)

SULLY:

9.52 pm. The split-screen isn't doing McCain any favors. His harrumphing and blinking and impatience remind me a teensy bit of Gore in 2000. Obama has smiled much more. And he has been positive more often. I know McCain had to get a little testy to get back in the game. But it still feels off to me.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:04 (seventeen years ago)

sullivan:

9.57 pm. Some readers seem to think my description of Obama as boring is meant as a criticism. Subjectively, maybe it doesn't give me a Lowry. But objectively, it's brilliant. The first black president will only get there by boring a lot of white people. And haven't we had enough drama in the last eight years? Boring is fucking awesome after Bush.

omar little, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:04 (seventeen years ago)

no, john, the iraq war is big government at its "best"

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:04 (seventeen years ago)

who had hair transplants on their bingo sheet?

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:04 (seventeen years ago)

http://i33.tinypic.com/20u4u81.jpg

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:04 (seventeen years ago)

WHAT? Reagan's welfare queen makes its reappearance as Joe gettin' plastic surgery

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:04 (seventeen years ago)

hey joe, where you going with that gun in your hand? Not that I'm gonna stop you...

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:05 (seventeen years ago)

Hey Joe, where you goin' with that pipe wrench in your hand?

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:05 (seventeen years ago)

lol senator government

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:05 (seventeen years ago)

McCain needs to stop talking about this Joe guy. The only plumbers I know are named like Chespol Kryschlyhw

burt_stanton, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:05 (seventeen years ago)

Joe can't be rich John he doesn't make over $5 million lolololol

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:05 (seventeen years ago)

lol

senator government (jeff), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:05 (seventeen years ago)

repubs want government small enough to fit in a middle eastern country

Senator Government (stet), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:05 (seventeen years ago)

damn

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:05 (seventeen years ago)

joe is rich but he ain't driving a gold plated cadillac. waiting to learn more about this fascinating man

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:05 (seventeen years ago)

SPREAD THE WEALTH

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:06 (seventeen years ago)

seriously, this is madness

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:06 (seventeen years ago)

jeez has he got a tic? The blinking is really overwhelming....Cadillac??? insurance policy??? Avg cost is 5,800 I will give them 5,000 - which isn't quite enough to really afford it mmmmwahhhhahahahahah! Only the elite will have coverage.

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:06 (seventeen years ago)

I almost can't listen to mccain talk

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:06 (seventeen years ago)

boring ftw

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:06 (seventeen years ago)

admit it o you want to spend Joe's money

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:06 (seventeen years ago)

obama's smile is like cool lester smooth

mccain's is like creepy old man

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:06 (seventeen years ago)

lol life

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:06 (seventeen years ago)

abortion rears its head

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:06 (seventeen years ago)

so is mccain objectively crashing and burning here?

omar little, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:06 (seventeen years ago)

yes

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:07 (seventeen years ago)

I think so Omar

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:07 (seventeen years ago)

the senate was about to blow up! domestic terrorism!

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:07 (seventeen years ago)

he's moving his arms &shoulders like a Dana carvey character

the RHETERIC (kingfish), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:07 (seventeen years ago)

finger quotes - a no-no

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:07 (seventeen years ago)

there's no objective, just quorum

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:08 (seventeen years ago)

OBAMA VOTED AGAINST BREYER???

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:08 (seventeen years ago)

Well, I thought the other debates were ties, but polls favored Obama. I think Obama is whupping ass thus far, so maybe the polls will favor McCain? We live in Bizarro World.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:08 (seventeen years ago)

KILL HIM!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:08 (seventeen years ago)

"elections have consequences when Presidents are nominated"

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:08 (seventeen years ago)

McCain's really coming up with the quotables tonight

burt_stanton, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:08 (seventeen years ago)

I Don't See It [Ramesh Ponnuru]

A couple folks here have been saying that McCain is doing better than in the previous two debates. I wish it were true, but I just don't see it. I think a few times McCain has come across as spluttering.

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:08 (seventeen years ago)

BEST SUPREME COURT JUSTICES... IN THE WORLD

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:08 (seventeen years ago)

SENATOR GOVERNMENT/ORNALDO BLOOMPS '08

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:08 (seventeen years ago)

ts "wordy rappinghood" vs "hey joe" as the theme song to this debate

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:08 (seventeen years ago)

i'm pretty sure mr. teaches constitutional law mill make otm choices thank you very much

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:08 (seventeen years ago)

drudge poll has already decided that mccain won

senator government (jeff), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:08 (seventeen years ago)

i believe roe v wade was a bad decision, i believe a lot of things were bad decisions!

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:09 (seventeen years ago)

It's probably a slip of the tongue, but I can't believe McCain just claimed that Obama voted against Breyer.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:09 (seventeen years ago)

all judges legislate from the bench dumbshit, where do you think we got the common law from?

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:09 (seventeen years ago)

historic speech on abortion

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:10 (seventeen years ago)

o's closing remarks on roe v wade = huge win with ladies

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:10 (seventeen years ago)

uh oh right to privacy is a minefield, bro

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:10 (seventeen years ago)

Obama's got the wimmin.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:10 (seventeen years ago)

yeah but palin believes there is an inherent right to privacy in the constitution so case closed

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:11 (seventeen years ago)

I'm glad he's bringing up this case. I wish he's talk about it all day.

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:11 (seventeen years ago)

blinking like his eytes are gonna fall out, he know's he's done, grimace on face trying to be straight face or nice smile just ain't workin'

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:11 (seventeen years ago)

yeah lockin down the broad vote

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:11 (seventeen years ago)

Excellent, excellent example by Obama.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:11 (seventeen years ago)

http://i33.tinypic.com/2vb3qlc.jpg

ANML, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:12 (seventeen years ago)

I'm glad this bullshit abortion thing is coming up too.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:12 (seventeen years ago)

this failed abortion bullshit again

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:12 (seventeen years ago)

omg that gif

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:12 (seventeen years ago)

"It's not just bad, it's terrible."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:12 (seventeen years ago)

http://image.blingee.com/images15/content/output/000/000/000/45d/299826686_1796868.gif

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:12 (seventeen years ago)

proud member of the pro-abortion movement

harbl, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:12 (seventeen years ago)

omfg and i thought this debate was already kinda lost for mccain on the ayers question

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:12 (seventeen years ago)

that is my first blingee :-/

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:13 (seventeen years ago)

you fucknuts late term abortions are already almost totally illegal

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:13 (seventeen years ago)

a terrible procedure...as if he has EVA personally experienced this dilemma...

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:13 (seventeen years ago)

badoom

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:13 (seventeen years ago)

btw guys obama = flag pin, mccain = no flag pin. where's sean hannity when you need him?

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:13 (seventeen years ago)

good job on blingee, like the cigar

harbl, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:13 (seventeen years ago)

eye roll!

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:13 (seventeen years ago)

BAM

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:14 (seventeen years ago)

m is writing again....probably making dirty pictures....

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:14 (seventeen years ago)

"Obama did not vote to support saving the life of a failed abortion, which happens about as often as whales turn into pots of daisies, GET HIM!"

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:14 (seventeen years ago)

MCCAIN SIGH

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:14 (seventeen years ago)

BHO laying the SMACK DOWN

lovin this debate!!

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:14 (seventeen years ago)

mccain sniffing on common ground

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:14 (seventeen years ago)

huge snort at "common ground"

unintended pregnancies hahaha

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:14 (seventeen years ago)

how do you make a stamp in blingee smaller

i will take my answer off thread

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:15 (seventeen years ago)

what is the word for that sound that's halfway between a sigh and a snort?

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:15 (seventeen years ago)

there is the snort and deep breath again....

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:15 (seventeen years ago)

mccain smiles at the idea of cavalier activity

harbl, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:15 (seventeen years ago)

LOUD ASS sigh

the RHETERIC (kingfish), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:15 (seventeen years ago)

this debate is kinda killing it, isn't it

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:15 (seventeen years ago)

eloquence oh noes

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:15 (seventeen years ago)

a snigh?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:15 (seventeen years ago)

gbx there are zoom buttons

harbl, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:15 (seventeen years ago)

LISTEN TO HIS FORKED TONGUE

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:15 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, "health of the mother," lol wtf amirite?????

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:15 (seventeen years ago)

oh i m dum

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:16 (seventeen years ago)

""""health""""

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:16 (seventeen years ago)

how dare my opponent consider this "health"

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:16 (seventeen years ago)

WE WILL SUPPORT ADOPTIONS UNLESS U R A FAG LOL

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:16 (seventeen years ago)

as theatre, this is by far the best debate. If I was one of those phantom undecided voters, Obama looks like the most rational candidate. McCain acts like Palpatine: he'll blast you if you disagree with him.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:16 (seventeen years ago)

obama has sonned him here

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:16 (seventeen years ago)

"young women facing tough decision" uhmmm, isn't he ruling out the decision? sorry to get all political

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:16 (seventeen years ago)

whereas Obama's attitude is, "We don't agree? Well, you're dumb. I won't waste time on you."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:17 (seventeen years ago)

I Don't See It [Ramesh Ponnuru] from The Corner

A couple folks here have been saying that McCain is doing better than in the previous two debates. I wish it were true, but I just don't see it. I think a few times McCain has come across as spluttering.

10/15 09:41 PM

oscar, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:17 (seventeen years ago)

Joe Jr, Son of Joe the Rich Ass Plumber

senator government (jeff), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:17 (seventeen years ago)

McCain is like acting like a grandpa when Matlock gets preempted.

Nicole, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:17 (seventeen years ago)

http://i35.tinypic.com/dztob9.jpg

senator government (jeff), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:17 (seventeen years ago)

someone do a better blingee

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:18 (seventeen years ago)

well timed

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:18 (seventeen years ago)

hope McCain is cool with owning up to broken education and his spending freeze plan

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:18 (seventeen years ago)

thanks, oscar, I posted that already

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:18 (seventeen years ago)

both men's and women's lines on CNN are super high for this O education talk

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:18 (seventeen years ago)

can he even see through those superblinkee eyes

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:19 (seventeen years ago)

didn't Obama say he was pro-charter schools earlier?

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:19 (seventeen years ago)

god abortion talk bores me, but that was the best discussion b/w candidates I've heard on TV.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:19 (seventeen years ago)

standing up to Big Teacher, etc

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:19 (seventeen years ago)

at least both spoke about abortion like adults.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:20 (seventeen years ago)

man if only Joe could afford a decent school for the kids

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:20 (seventeen years ago)

"And as the last several months have shown us, competition is inherently good!"

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:20 (seventeen years ago)

hey, so McCain's up for reelection in 2 years. is there someone serious we can run against this smarmy fuck?

gabbneb, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:20 (seventeen years ago)

i hav almost never seen someone blink so much - his eyes is there syrup in there

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:20 (seventeen years ago)

"so they can teach without having to take these examinations" = WTF??!

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:21 (seventeen years ago)

Oh yeah, let's put teachers in the classroom without this pesky "qualifications" crap!

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:21 (seventeen years ago)

these colleges want entrance examinations? Wtf kinda crazy talk is that

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:21 (seventeen years ago)

When all our cities are like New Orleans, I'll support charter schools

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:21 (seventeen years ago)

Pulling out the Cindy my wife card...
too late too short too little.

education we are failing against other countries. Major implications on our leadership as a country and also perhaps ramifications on homeland security. Well, DOH! pay them more...they educate our children and teach them in the areas that parents cannot.

M ....Civil rights?!?!?!?!? WTF????? rambling on how and where to send kids (private schools) what about those who are not rich and have to attend, dare I say it?!?!?! PUBLIC SCHOOL!!!! scandalous.

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:21 (seventeen years ago)

education: weak-sauce valence issue

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:21 (seventeen years ago)

i had to stop watching and listen only because his blinking was making me blech

harbl, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:21 (seventeen years ago)

xxxp have you forgotten palin blinking already?

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:21 (seventeen years ago)

YOU GODDAMN TEACHER CERTIFICATION EXAMS GET OFF MY LAWN

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:21 (seventeen years ago)

wha soldiers should be able to teach w/out any requirements cause why ???

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:22 (seventeen years ago)

american heroes

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:22 (seventeen years ago)

didn't Obama say he was pro-charter schools earlier?

― ILX MOD (musically), Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:19 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:22 (seventeen years ago)

wha soldiers should be able to teach w/out any requirements cause why ???

― joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Wednesday, October 15, 2008 9:22 PM (23 seconds ago) Bookmark

wait did he actually say that? i zoned out

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:23 (seventeen years ago)

what are the CNN EKG ratings?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:23 (seventeen years ago)

oh mccain please be reviving vouchers

deep you (tremendoid), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:23 (seventeen years ago)

"so they can teach without having to take these examinations" = WTF??!

― Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:21 AM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark

Sure, why in the world should anyone have to qualify as a teacher?!?!? It's all about putting a warm body in a classroom and saying have at it, it's all you...

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:23 (seventeen years ago)

guys education is not going to be fixed during this debate, new thread for that later

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:23 (seventeen years ago)

damn that obama never paying attention

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:24 (seventeen years ago)

i haven't read this thread but am i the only one who has seen McCain wink while Obama's talking? you know what that means, right?

gabbneb, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:24 (seventeen years ago)

http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/images/full-metal-jacket-sergeant.jpg

DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE PYTHAGOREAN THEOREM AND THE QUADRATIC EQUATION, MAGGOT?!!

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:24 (seventeen years ago)

High for Obama, centered for Mac. Women dipping into negative territory.

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:24 (seventeen years ago)

lol at Obama's expression right there

"oh, I wasn't paying attention?"

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:24 (seventeen years ago)

even though he's cool, obama's body language towards mccain is definitely aggressive.

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:24 (seventeen years ago)

that was vouchers, that was vouchers

Woman Who Force Madonna At House Party To Make Bold Statement (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:24 (seventeen years ago)

autism wtf?

harbl, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:25 (seventeen years ago)

precious children who have autism

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:25 (seventeen years ago)

retarded babies

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:25 (seventeen years ago)

weak

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:25 (seventeen years ago)

cure for autism = major dad teacher

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:25 (seventeen years ago)

sarah palin knows about autism

senator government (jeff), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:25 (seventeen years ago)

all disabilities are autism to him

harbl, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:25 (seventeen years ago)

precious autistic snowflake babies

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:25 (seventeen years ago)

shit, McCain is audibly wheezing now

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:25 (seventeen years ago)

that u tube link doesnt work, what does the 'wink' mean?

piscesx, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:25 (seventeen years ago)

BHO was the one who started the US Gov transparancy website, right?

SARAH'S SON HAS DOWNS, HOW DOES THAT MAKE HER AN EXPERT ON AUTISM

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:25 (seventeen years ago)

who let the vouchers out

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:25 (seventeen years ago)

is mccain confusing vouchers and charter schools - i wasnt paying attention

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:25 (seventeen years ago)

Vouchers, young man

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:26 (seventeen years ago)

precious children, with their precious, precious blood

the RHETERIC (kingfish), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:26 (seventeen years ago)

Sully:

10.18 pm. At no point have we seen a grace note from McCain. When dealing with the negativism of the campaign, it would not have killed him to seem genuinely horrified at calls for violence rather than offended that anyone dare criticize him or some of his supporters. Or to wish Obama well. It's this lack of generosity of spirit that he lacks and that people want in a president. Obama still manages to say when he agrees with or admires McCain. In this whole dynamic, Obama seems more secure, more self-controlled, more mature. He is the Alpha Male on this stage, and McCain the bristling teen - aged 72. No wonder women seem to be so disproportionately pro-Obama.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:26 (seventeen years ago)

every snowflake is a retard autistic baby w/downs falling from heaven

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:26 (seventeen years ago)

yeah you can tell Obama's pissed, but he still is calm and cool. That's pretty Presidential surely, whatever that means

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:26 (seventeen years ago)

MORE MORE VOUCHERS VOUCHERS VOUCHERS MORE MORE

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:26 (seventeen years ago)

heh heh

harbl, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:26 (seventeen years ago)

Vouchers, young man!

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:26 (seventeen years ago)

palin has a had a retard baby for a few months therefor she understand autism

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:27 (seventeen years ago)

so weak!!

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:27 (seventeen years ago)

fucking slimy yellow toothed cunt

senator government (jeff), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:27 (seventeen years ago)

did he snort?? homg

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:27 (seventeen years ago)

smug, desperate asshole

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:27 (seventeen years ago)

McCain got in one last closing snort, there.

Dan I., Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:27 (seventeen years ago)

I want to see the coin toss next time

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:27 (seventeen years ago)

THERES NOT ENOUGH VOUCHERS

Woman Who Force Madonna At House Party To Make Bold Statement (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:27 (seventeen years ago)

coin tosses = in the tank for BHO

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:27 (seventeen years ago)

here he comes with the palin oh, poor retarded kid.

then just talk over O to try and override the facts he is spewing, he is so enchanted with his own comments he might as well roll on the floor and laugh

oh! another my friend - everybody DRINK!!!!!

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:28 (seventeen years ago)

bob's tie looks union jacky, right?

the RHETERIC (kingfish), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:28 (seventeen years ago)

NOT ENOUGH VOUCHERS DONT U SEEE

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:28 (seventeen years ago)

if only we had vouchers :(

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:28 (seventeen years ago)

McCain's laugh = NIGHTMARE-INDUCING

Smellishis Poon (bernard snowy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:28 (seventeen years ago)

his fingers looks like they're in pain

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:28 (seventeen years ago)

DRILL VOUCHERS DRILL VOUCHERS DRILL VOUCHERS DRILL VOUCHERS DRILL VOUCHERS DRILL VOUCHERS DRILL VOUCHERS DRILL VOUCHERS DRILL VOUCHERS DRILL VOUCHERS

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:28 (seventeen years ago)

senator obama and i made you to make

senator government (jeff), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:28 (seventeen years ago)

drill in anwr for vouchers

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:29 (seventeen years ago)

he's a compassionate conservative

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:29 (seventeen years ago)

humble?

senator government (jeff), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:29 (seventeen years ago)

voucher gusher for sure

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:29 (seventeen years ago)

his fingers looks like they're in pain

we haven't seen his medical records yet. Maybe he has syphilis.

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:29 (seventeen years ago)

bbc banner makes him look like he's giving thumbs up all the time

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:29 (seventeen years ago)

and CNN rises!!!

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:30 (seventeen years ago)

omg - off the chart on CNN for O

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:30 (seventeen years ago)

where'd my offshore voucher go

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:30 (seventeen years ago)

oh no don't beg

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:31 (seventeen years ago)

N-I-C-E

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:31 (seventeen years ago)

good job good job! I'm done!

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:31 (seventeen years ago)

big handshake

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:31 (seventeen years ago)

GOOD JOB! GOOD JOB! GOOD JOB! GOOD JOB!

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:31 (seventeen years ago)

mccain so awkward as well as old

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:31 (seventeen years ago)

good job good job good job thank thanks yeah yeah

senator government (jeff), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:31 (seventeen years ago)

GOOD JOB YOUNG GRASSHOPPER

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:31 (seventeen years ago)

Bob Schieffer will now drink whiskey sours.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:32 (seventeen years ago)

good job! good job! good job!

mccain is terrifying

the sir weeze, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:32 (seventeen years ago)

Best of the 3 debates IMO

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:32 (seventeen years ago)

wonder how well a promise of sacrifice and woe ahead works as a sales pitch, right enough

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:32 (seventeen years ago)

check out the BADONKADONK on michelle

the sir weeze, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:32 (seventeen years ago)

cnn republicans like Os closing remarks best!

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:32 (seventeen years ago)

schieffer won this one

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:32 (seventeen years ago)

no kidding, this was really great

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:32 (seventeen years ago)

GOOD JOB GOOD JOB YEP THX

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:32 (seventeen years ago)

"Good job! Good job! Yeah! Good job!" = "I'm going to lose."

lol Michelle and Cindy blue/red dresses

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:32 (seventeen years ago)

thanks for reenacting the debate for me dudes!

i was playing mortal kombat vs. dc the whole time...i'm at the end, i think supes is gonna take it to lex luther one more time.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:32 (seventeen years ago)

ps john groveling is unseemly

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:33 (seventeen years ago)

katty kay?

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:33 (seventeen years ago)

drudge pounces on joe the plumber video

senator government (jeff), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:33 (seventeen years ago)

WE HAVE A SIGNAL and McCain looks so freshly Botoxed he might as well be David Furnish aged 70-something.

Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:33 (seventeen years ago)

oh M@tt, your incorrigible!

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:33 (seventeen years ago)

Brian Williams: "Joe the Plumber becomes the second most famous Plumber in political history since Watergate."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:34 (seventeen years ago)

Katty Kay - as conservative as it is possible to be without violating BBC impartiality rules.

Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:34 (seventeen years ago)

10.31 pm. Closing statements: McCain seemed almost wistful. Obama ended on "sacrifice, service and responsibility." Obama won this for the third time. A small prediction: there will be YouTube mash-ups of McCain's facial reactions on the split screen. And they will have a longer life, for good or ill, than many of the substantive exchanges.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:34 (seventeen years ago)

I like the Stephanopolous but I don't want the Gibson that goes with it.

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:34 (seventeen years ago)

(Sully)

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:34 (seventeen years ago)

From 538: "10:26 EDT: [Sean] McCain keeps saying Palin's son has autism, but it's Down's Syndrome. "

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:34 (seventeen years ago)

I wish there was a button on my satellite remote labeled "Punch Bill Bennett in Cock."

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:35 (seventeen years ago)

do you know her suzy?

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:35 (seventeen years ago)

love Scheiffer's gasface, saw him on Charlie Rose a couple weeks ago, he was so noncommittal and content-free i wondered why he even stopped by. that bob showed up tonight armed with QUESTIONS duh guess that makes all the difference

deep you (tremendoid), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:35 (seventeen years ago)

grumpy mcnasty! Great handle!

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:35 (seventeen years ago)

Katty Kay calls a draw

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:35 (seventeen years ago)

Also, Paul Begala = http://www.ptgustan.com/may07/exeter2.jpg

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:36 (seventeen years ago)

I bet you right now that some sort of unflattering material is discovered about Joe the Plumber over the next few days.

Dan I., Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:36 (seventeen years ago)

is that derrida? xxxp

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:36 (seventeen years ago)

haha, Charlie Gibson himself said "finally, a really good debate"

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:36 (seventeen years ago)

you mean .like how he was a plant xp

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:37 (seventeen years ago)

I still cannot believe that McCain called out Obama for negative campaigning, very Rovian "criticize your opponent on their strengths"

FYI Hilary Clinton and Mitt Romney respond on NBC coming up

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:37 (seventeen years ago)

Fighter pilot?!?!?! I don't want him piloting ANY aircraft that I might be aboard.

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:37 (seventeen years ago)

oh M@tt, your incorrigible!

― Wiggy Woo, Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:33 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i wasn't trying to be a smart ass. i'm at work. on deadline. anyway i've enjoyed reading all the comments here. good night.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:38 (seventeen years ago)

CNN pundits watched a different debate, apparently

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:38 (seventeen years ago)

I'm watching CBS and toooo much McCain ass licking going on there

Hot Pants Floyd (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:39 (seventeen years ago)

confession: I have a huge crush on Michael Beschloss!!

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:39 (seventeen years ago)

haha

senator government (jeff), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:40 (seventeen years ago)

nbcs focus group has 6 people in it 6 PEOPLE LOLOLOL

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:40 (seventeen years ago)

marginoferror.xls

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:41 (seventeen years ago)

No worries M@tt no offense meant - wish I could ship you the debate on DVD so you can see/hear it in its entirety. Youtube? I bet it will be posted there imminently.

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:41 (seventeen years ago)

srsly I do not understand what CNN is talking about. although "IF HE WANTS AN APOLOGY FROM JOHN LEWIS HE SHOULD MOTHERFUCKING CALL JOHN LEWIS" standing up to emphasize point was hilaaarious.

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:42 (seventeen years ago)

Oh dear. I wanna do Anderson Cooper.

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:42 (seventeen years ago)

i think you can say mccain did good tonite w/o it being "asslicking." i think he did pretty good tonite. he was still hella nervous and erratic.

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:42 (seventeen years ago)

the debates are on OnDemand fyi

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:42 (seventeen years ago)

anyone who is undecided right now is literally retarded

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:43 (seventeen years ago)

tricky, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:43 (seventeen years ago)

NBC focus group I am talking to you

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:43 (seventeen years ago)

so wait sarah palin has a kid with AUTISM now???

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:44 (seventeen years ago)

Romney is on NBC now

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:44 (seventeen years ago)

I dunno, but probably due to my already-made-up mind I felt like McCain's "aggressive" was more "rude and disrespectful"

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:44 (seventeen years ago)

MITTENS is still angling for veep.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:44 (seventeen years ago)

sarah palin's son has autism and all kids with autism love to go to town hall meetings so that is why she is qualified to be vice president.

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:45 (seventeen years ago)

haha r u guys watching the Fox focus group ?? Majority says Obama won, none of them came in there supporting him

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:45 (seventeen years ago)

jessie - are you kidding me? Only on demand?!?! that is SO wrong. Why should anyone be denied the chance to see a national presidential debate unless they pay for it. Such a glaring exhibit of why my country and its media is SO effed up. UGH!

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:46 (seventeen years ago)

romney is srsly jealous of joe the plumber

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:46 (seventeen years ago)

now i'm worried...cuz usually if it looks like a smackdown...then it gets all turned around to be mccain won somehow...

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:46 (seventeen years ago)

across the board fox is digging obama

YGS, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:46 (seventeen years ago)

Brit Hume, apparently, looks miffed.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:47 (seventeen years ago)

oh great, I just tuned to FOX here in LA and it's got the all important effing dodger and philly game on instead of ummmm some inane thing like who is going to run the country in the next 4 years.

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:47 (seventeen years ago)

HRC, meanwhile, looks like a hologram.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:47 (seventeen years ago)

aaaand hillary comes out snorging

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:48 (seventeen years ago)

Bill Bennett: McCain was "dignified" COME ON DUDE

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:48 (seventeen years ago)

HRC hates Obama more than Mittens.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:48 (seventeen years ago)

bill bennett im pretty sure has absolutely no idea what dignity looks like

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:49 (seventeen years ago)

George Will: "If the winner of the debate is going to be the next president, then the next president is going to be Joe the Plumber."

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:49 (seventeen years ago)

oh great, I just tuned to FOX here in LA and it's got the all important effing dodger and philly game on instead of ummmm some inane thing like who is going to run the country in the next 4 years.

― Wiggy Woo, Wednesday, October 15, 2008 4:47 PM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i have 2 TVs in my office and am watching this too XD

manny hit a homer right when obama started ruling on health care

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:49 (seventeen years ago)

ha hey what george will made a funny :)

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:50 (seventeen years ago)

lol CNN focus group all talking about joe the plumber

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:50 (seventeen years ago)

Isn't "dignified" the kind of term you offer when someone experiences a bad situation without like, bursting into tears or profanity?

I guess it's appropriate.

C-L, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:50 (seventeen years ago)

Not surprising about Fox: Murdoch can smell a winner. turned The Sun around to Blair overnight.

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:51 (seventeen years ago)

by tomorrow afternoon joe the plumber will be exposed as a republican lobbyist

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:51 (seventeen years ago)

I am disgusted by my city. we don't care enough about "bigger sports" like football, hence we have no pro football team. Yet, we are evidently so uninterested and disinterested in who runs the effing country that we would rather run a GD baseball game instead of the final presidential debate. Is it just me?!?!

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:51 (seventeen years ago)

dude on MSNBC just made the "joe the plumber wins the debate" joke too

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:51 (seventeen years ago)

Dude theres more than one channel in LA

mayor jingleberries, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:52 (seventeen years ago)

HEY WIGGY WOO IT IS AN IMPORTANT EFFING GAME AND THE DEBATE IS ON FOX NEWS AND 67876786789678687 OTHER CHANNELS

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:52 (seventeen years ago)

I've heard that joke 5 times on the networks tonight.

Mordy, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:52 (seventeen years ago)

ok so the fact that the ohio undecideds that just comprised the bottom of CNN for 90 minutes ended up being a whopping group of 30 people split 50/50 MF, WTF CNN HOW USELESS ARE YOU

SANJAY BLOGDAI SANJAY (John Justen), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:53 (seventeen years ago)

i mean i aint no fancy statistician or nothing but SRSLY WTF WHY U WASTE MY TIME

SANJAY BLOGDAI SANJAY (John Justen), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:53 (seventeen years ago)

because Soledad is so cute!

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:55 (seventeen years ago)

I will cop to watching the debate on the ABC/Yahoo stream while watching my local Fox affiliate to watch the Dodgers.

I really should not have done that, though, since mostly it was just Rafael Furcal making errors at inopportune times.

C-L, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:55 (seventeen years ago)

George Will: "It's too late."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:55 (seventeen years ago)

god motherfuck the use of "professorial" and "eloquence" as goddamn pejoratives

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:55 (seventeen years ago)

^^^^ real talk

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:57 (seventeen years ago)

jhoshea's new screen name had better be joe the plumber

mookieproof, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:58 (seventeen years ago)

can we just repost this over and over BECAUSE IT IS AWESOME

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:59 (seventeen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/w1nt3rmut3/Highlightofthedebate.jpg

Dan I., Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:59 (seventeen years ago)

ya, I know; I am just being difficult and hatin on sports vs. national leadership.

I guess my point is that many peeps (important to the election) don't have the funds and $$ access to non cable channels; therefore they are in the dark and happily watching the dodger game and the debate is a moot point. They will vote for the old war vet instead of the sharp black guy b/c they never actually watched any of the debates - but instead relied wholly upon the paid ads during the game by either party for their info on how to vote. Yes, I am bitter about this tonight. :(

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:59 (seventeen years ago)

dan i otm

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:00 (seventeen years ago)

what the hell

goole, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:00 (seventeen years ago)

hi res jpg pls

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:00 (seventeen years ago)

haahahahahhahahhhahhaha awesome

xpost to dan i

SANJAY BLOGDAI SANJAY (John Justen), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:00 (seventeen years ago)

tht ws actually quite a charming funny moment from j mac

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:00 (seventeen years ago)

also

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:01 (seventeen years ago)

HERE COMES OLBERMANNNNN

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:01 (seventeen years ago)

I guess my point is that many peeps (important to the election) don't have the funds and $ access to non cable channels; therefore they are in the dark and happily watching the dodger game and the debate is a moot point.

JESUS CHRIST THE DEBATE WAS ON ABC, NBC, CBS AND PBS

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:01 (seventeen years ago)

maybe so, but Dodger game is a REALLY strong pull...

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:02 (seventeen years ago)

ok Keith come on w/ the plumber crack

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:02 (seventeen years ago)

^^ totally intentional pun! I rock!

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:03 (seventeen years ago)

dodgers ded let go

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:03 (seventeen years ago)

wiggy woo-- season ticket holders were selling dodgers tickets for $10 today. that should restore your confidence.

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:03 (seventeen years ago)

I tell ya, I'm just bein an irrational sports hatin girly when bigger issues are at stake like the Presidency...never mind me I am just being pissy.

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:04 (seventeen years ago)

its october.

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:04 (seventeen years ago)

There is always something more fun to do than watch a televised debate. There are plenty of options, like Youtube or the various 1000000000000000000 ways to watch it back online.

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:04 (seventeen years ago)

yay grabneb! $10 woohoo. thanks I needed that

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:05 (seventeen years ago)

yay grabneb!

?????????????????????????????

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:05 (seventeen years ago)

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:05 (seventeen years ago)

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:05 (seventeen years ago)

From BBC: "Erick Erickson, RedState:Tonight we finally saw what so many of us have been waiting for. John McCain mopped the floor with Barack Obama. Throughout the night, Barack Obama looked distant, like he did not want to be there, like he was annoyed. He really looked annoyed all night. McCain on the other hand looked like the comeback kid — the guy who knew he had to do well. And he did."

GUMPH

Vic Fluro, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:06 (seventeen years ago)

SNAP

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:06 (seventeen years ago)

lol

cozwn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:06 (seventeen years ago)

it seems like joe the plumber and a lot of other people were saying obama is going to tax all business revenue at the same rate as personal income wtf

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:06 (seventeen years ago)

lol monarchy

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:06 (seventeen years ago)

if only professional sports didn't exist, we would be living in uptopia right now ;_;

velko, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:07 (seventeen years ago)

I'm confused, didn't Erickson say McCain won all the other debates?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:07 (seventeen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/w1nt3rmut3/mccainwithlasers.gif

Dan I., Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:08 (seventeen years ago)

i didn't make that

Dan I., Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:08 (seventeen years ago)

It wouldn't surprise me, Ned, I was just particularly astonished at that one.

Vic Fluro, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:08 (seventeen years ago)

did mccain repeat word for word the closing remarks from his last speech?

omar little, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:08 (seventeen years ago)

yeah sure

btw -- no maverick!!!

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:09 (seventeen years ago)

charlie rose is zinging doris kerns goodman re red sox right now

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:10 (seventeen years ago)

Best random comment I've seen elsewhere so far:

I’m glad that McCain brought up hair transplants again. That’s a winning issue for him.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:12 (seventeen years ago)

fuck why charlie rose has this vacuous cnbc woman on

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:13 (seventeen years ago)

@― ♪☺♫☻ (gr8080)!!! Crap! I am so sorry! I confused you with grabneb, an old ILXor My bad! *humbly apologizes and bats eyes* Will you forgive my digression?

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:14 (seventeen years ago)

dude gr8080 is gabneeb hes just f'n w/u

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:16 (seventeen years ago)

gr8080 = nyc lawyer, mets fan, formerly known as gobnebb

omar little, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:17 (seventeen years ago)

deezneb

velko, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:17 (seventeen years ago)

*bats eyes* I am SO easily effed with! LOL.

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:18 (seventeen years ago)

MediaCurves independents: Obama 60, McCain 30.
CNN poll from the tee-vee: Obama 58, McCain 31.
CBS undecideds: Obama 53, McCain 22.

oscar, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:19 (seventeen years ago)

ha dont worry glabnebb is a master of the wtf just happened classique ilx zing :) xp

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:20 (seventeen years ago)

wait what?

let's just talk about McCain's unnerving STARE -- thanx for making up for 2 debates' worth of high-hatting by giving Obama your depraved manga-eyed attention, gramps

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:20 (seventeen years ago)

we are all nebbs now

coznebb (cozwn), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:20 (seventeen years ago)

everyone is saying mccain won the beginning of the debate but i was asleep then :(

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:21 (seventeen years ago)

someone link to the CNN tracker when McCain was hatin on the woman's safety during the abortion question

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:21 (seventeen years ago)

It was McCain's best performance, but it was also Obama's best IMO.

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:22 (seventeen years ago)

He was definitely friskier, and I think his supporters were happy he took it to Obama and actually showed a pulse, but otherwise that sort of spin just seems too spinny.

xpost

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:22 (seventeen years ago)

mark halprin hatin on mccains electoral map while saying he won the debate right now

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:22 (seventeen years ago)

ever since the revamp of ILX I am confused and confounded. I should just change my name and pretend to be someone else entirely...nah, not in my nature on second thought. Comeon...where are my LA peeps to defend me and rescue me?!?!? Ned, donut, dan, Mary, spencer chow? Awww eff-it. I am a strong girly girl and can fend for my own self.

Well my goodness, I should get going! Knight Rider has come back on the air from the 1980s grave! I should be watching! Now see?!?! If I had not changed channels from CNN I would never know that I could wrap my mind and self in the ancient cocoon of a show revamped from 20 years ago and escape the triviality of today's issues like the presidency....my my my, "War War War, all you boys wanna talk of is War, now who of you Hamilton boys is going to escort me, Scarlett, to the bar-b-que at the Wilkes?

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:23 (seventeen years ago)

halprin trying desperately to come up w/scenario where mccain wins while almost laughing at the absurdity

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:24 (seventeen years ago)

The Page gives McCain higher grades.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:24 (seventeen years ago)

McCain's STARE?!?!?! WTF?!? Stare??? all he did was blink furiously like a nervous schoolgirl at her first dance!

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:24 (seventeen years ago)

For Jimmy Mac, looking in Obama's general direction for more than 15 seconds without flinching = stare.

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:26 (seventeen years ago)

Jimmy? Johnny! JOE!

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:26 (seventeen years ago)

Jimmy the MOD, who do you think REALLY owned this one?

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:26 (seventeen years ago)

david brooks comparing obama to a mountain right now - v zen

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:26 (seventeen years ago)

The American People.

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:26 (seventeen years ago)

But not Joe. He's probably some italian, being a plumber and all.

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:27 (seventeen years ago)

cop out Jimmy....

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:27 (seventeen years ago)

AAAY!

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:28 (seventeen years ago)

obama = mario
mccain = luigi

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:28 (seventeen years ago)

palin = yoshi

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:29 (seventeen years ago)

obama = sonic
mccain = tails

Mordy, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:29 (seventeen years ago)

Are there special pants fitted 'specially for plumbers so it ensures butt crack exposure? And do you have to pay extra for them? Open question - just wondering.

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:30 (seventeen years ago)

wau

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:31 (seventeen years ago)

You know, fuck Joe -- where's Jane The Interior Decorator?

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:32 (seventeen years ago)

538, snap polls:

MediaCurves independents: Obama 60, McCain 30.

CNN poll from the tee-vee: Obama 58, McCain 31.

CBS undecideds: Obama 53, McCain 22.

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:32 (seventeen years ago)

palin = amy
biden = knuckles

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:33 (seventeen years ago)

rove = dr. eggman

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:33 (seventeen years ago)

^^ they make pictures of that kind of thing that are really funny, guys!!

goole, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:34 (seventeen years ago)

whatever happened to dr. robotnik? too cold war?

burt_stanton, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:34 (seventeen years ago)

wow!!! TOMBOT great image! thanx for posting

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:35 (seventeen years ago)

brooks is still in love w/mccain - claims campaign mccain isnt the real mccain yet hes still fighting the good fight - completely incoherent

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:35 (seventeen years ago)

wait i think he's robotnik now and used to be eggman...can't remember how it goes...don't even bring up shadow the hedgehog or like metal sonic or whatever

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:36 (seventeen years ago)

glad barako didnt seemed to me to be too much on the defensive and struggling to keep up like last time around (lol blame the coin?) . . happy he won it but insert standard fringe "(relative) change" criticism. insurNCE%??%

Sébastien, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:37 (seventeen years ago)

tomorrow we take arkansas.

TOMBOT, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:38 (seventeen years ago)

Who is Wiggy Woo? I love the fact that LA doesnt have a football team. Also um the city isn't dictating what Fox the channel, who's headquartered in NYC, decides to show

xpost only Drudge lol poll has McCain leading

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:40 (seventeen years ago)

HAHAHAHA Fox "txt" poll has McCain at 87% and Obama at 12%

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:41 (seventeen years ago)

Geraldine Ferraro on Fox: "it doesn't matter what your kids are txting"

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:41 (seventeen years ago)

who is ol geraldine pulling for in the discussion?

goole, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:44 (seventeen years ago)

watching the pundits struggle to come up w/any sort of scenario that will give mccain even a long shot at winning is pretty funny

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:44 (seventeen years ago)

Dan I., Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:45 (seventeen years ago)

Can we add McCain's WHA face to the hot-pussy gif?

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:46 (seventeen years ago)

forget O or Grumpy McNasty - THIS IS YOUR BEST NITE K-LO:

Catching Up [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
I am so sorry. (Again.) We were slammed with traffic again tonight. (I promise I resign – because I may not survive the day — if this happens Election Day.)

Here's what I would have posted, if I could have posted ....

Mr. T
Senator McCain is being downright tenacious tonight.

”Senator, Obama, Who Has Never Travelled South of Our Border”

But Bill Ayers has ….

"cockamamie"

AMEN.

I Think I Just Heard Obama Say

"actually I do know about free trade. I went to Columbia and Harvard. I'm smart, I swear."

I Love That
McCain ate Obama for dinner on Colombia. The Democrats have been criminally negligent on Colombia.

It’s 10 P.M.
Do you know where your abortion question is????

I’ll Say One Thing for Bob Schieffer Though
I’ve barely noticed him. That’s the way it should be.

McCain Called Obama “Senator Government”
You know that David Cassidy song “I think I love you”?

Gang of 14
Senator McCain, do me a favor and STOP REMINDING ME. Now I’m being forced to move onto the “What am I so afraid of?” part of Cassidy’s song … DON’T REMIND ME.

I think I love you. And angry McCain can win …

COURAGE and COMPASSION
THANK YOU!! SENATOR MCCAIN IS BRINGING UP BORN-ALIVE & PARTIAL-BIRTH ABORTION. IT’S A MIRACLE.

“COMMON GROUND”
There’s no common ground on INFANTICIDE, Senator Obama.

Sorry to scream, but it’s infanticide.

“NOBODY IS PRO-ABORTION”
I don’t know. This statement comes from someone who as state senator said that a six-month old doesn’t deserve the same rights as a newborn. I don’t know how that’s not pro-abortion for the newborn.

WOW.
Is it me, or has Sarah Palin made John McCain more “proudly” pro-life than he has ever been?

OBAMA
Is anti-voucher. He is the anti-civil-rights candidate. Glad that’s clear.

IN SUM
I disagree with Ramesh. McCain won.

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:46 (seventeen years ago)

But Bill Ayers has ….

"cockamamie"

AMEN.

But Bill Ayers has …
"cockamamie"
AMEN.
But Bill Ayers has ….
"cockamamie"
AMEN.
But Bill Ayers has ….
"cockamamie"
AMEN.

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:47 (seventeen years ago)

My favorite quote, from fivethirtyeight.com (awesome site for stat nerds btw):

"Who's in charge of toweling off Roland Martin after this debate? He's hitting that button like he's fighting Mike Tyson at the end of Punch-Out."

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:47 (seventeen years ago)

I want this on a tshirt
Gang of 14
Senator McCain, do me a favor and STOP REMINDING ME. Now I’m being forced to move onto the “What am I so afraid of?” part of Cassidy’s song … DON’T REMIND ME.

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:48 (seventeen years ago)

from fivethirtyeight.com (awesome site for stat nerds btw)

^^^ thanx 4 the tip, d00d!!!

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:51 (seventeen years ago)

okay, sorry. i just discovered it last week.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:52 (seventeen years ago)

hey dumb question:

is gergen a dem or a repub? i honestly can't remember....

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:57 (seventeen years ago)

cuz he said this

Later in CNN's broadcast, after Campbell Brown ran down CNN's poll results (an overall Obama win, a win for Obama among independents, Obama wins on questions about healthcare, and even taxes), Anderson Cooper asked Gergen what he would say to McCain about what the message should be going forward, in light of these results. Gergen replied, "Beats the hell out of me," adding later, "See if you can leave this with your honor in tact."

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 16 October 2008 03:58 (seventeen years ago)

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0en0fdr3y0byU/610x.jpg

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:00 (seventeen years ago)

gergen worked for nixon, ford, reagan, bush 41 and clinton.

TOMBOT, Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:04 (seventeen years ago)

cnn republicans like Os closing remarks best!

Well, he went last. It's the Mark Antony effect.

My friends. (Romans, countrymen, prisoners...)

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:05 (seventeen years ago)

I've been getting him mixed up with sammy berger, the moron.

TOMBOT, Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:06 (seventeen years ago)

christ will someone please get k-lo laid?

omar little, Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:07 (seventeen years ago)

only a true patriot could perform that selfless act of sacrifice

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:08 (seventeen years ago)

Cindy McCain seems like she would be a deceptively stern bitch in bed

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:08 (seventeen years ago)

I don't even know what that means

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:09 (seventeen years ago)

Or if it's good or bad

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:09 (seventeen years ago)

It's an impressionistic thought, granted...

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:09 (seventeen years ago)

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:10 (seventeen years ago)

Gergen is more or less a Reaganite ex-Republican

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:10 (seventeen years ago)

they loved "sexuality is sacred" XP

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:12 (seventeen years ago)

I saw that vid on TPM's site, unfortunately it cuts off almost right after McCain talks about "health" so I couldn't see where the lines went.

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:13 (seventeen years ago)

"Health" has been stretched to mean almost anything? Like what?

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:16 (seventeen years ago)

Immediately after this happened...

http://i33.tinypic.com/2vb3qlc.jpg

I said to my friend Laura that it would be an animated gif by tomorrow. I'm glad to see it didn't even take that long.

jaymc, Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:18 (seventeen years ago)

"When they say 'health' what they really mean is HOLOCAUST OMG"

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:18 (seventeen years ago)

NEWSFLASH: Joe the Plumber said "I'm still with mccain" and is now asleep - stop the presses!!!! R WE GONNA WIN NOW

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:21 (seventeen years ago)

Joe the Plumber is clearly a non-union scab.

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:22 (seventeen years ago)

"Health" has been stretched to mean almost anything? Like what?

hangnails, fallen arches, bad hair days...

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:25 (seventeen years ago)

It's especially ridiculous considering that the "'health'" of the mother has become a new right-wing point against abortion, arguing that it's mentally scarring, leads to PTSD, etc. Is that also "health"?

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:26 (seventeen years ago)

Ok maybe it's not new. But it's getting more prominent.

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:27 (seventeen years ago)

The Page gives McCain higher grades.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:24 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hackery. hes really trying to turn this into a horserace huh

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:28 (seventeen years ago)

GRABNEB

homosexual II, Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:32 (seventeen years ago)

watching the replay on cnn, is that mccain breathing heavy into his microphone or what is that athsmatic whinnying sound when obama is talking

john mccain is offended by these tshirts that obama lovers wear because goddamn you kids in my day the t shirt was an underwear

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:35 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, I watched at a bar so I couldn't tell for sure, but there were definitely a couple of moments I thought I heard McCain making weird noises off-camera.

jaymc, Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:40 (seventeen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/w1nt3rmut3/SenatorMcTongue.jpg

Seriously, what the hell is going on with this guy? looking at these pictures is the most I've laughed in days

Dan I., Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:45 (seventeen years ago)

oh crap they got resized. They were funnier when hueg

Dan I., Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:46 (seventeen years ago)

Wha?!?!? Who is Wiggywoo!?!?!?! ― Vichitravirya_XI,!! I am SOOOOO insulted! (Not really) I have been on ILX for about 4 years. Yes, I often lurk, but I participate a fair amount too! good heavens, I know you, search me on ILX if you're inclinded. I am not active all that often, but I am an Angel, have sadly missed most LA FAPs and I am just plain old me. If you're interested in seeing me and my general photography go here: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiggywoo-lcutting/";>Wiggywoo Photos</a> then there is my 2008 diary here: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/mdpd2008/discuss/72157603601792490/page6/";>Wiggy's Diary</a> this is a more intimate look at just who I am as a real individual (there is some "R" - rated stuff there so if you're not up to it, I would say skip it; but it's not risque really. :)

Anyhooo...I got my start on ILX thru teeny, who was Flickr pal and became an ILX moderator before she had a baby and all her time got gobbled up. I also am contemporary of Ned Raggett, Stockholm Cindy, both Kate's (o'Brien & Masonic Boom) and whoever else is on Flickr as an ILXor. So HI!!!!! thanks for asking who the hell I am. I look forward to viewing your posts. xoxo, Wiggy.

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:47 (seventeen years ago)

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/43863/thumbs/r-EYEROLL-medium260.jpg

Eazy, Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:48 (seventeen years ago)

well crud. I am obviously HTML challenged. Most of you here are not. ― Vichitravirya_XI, this was primarily meant for you to access me and learn who I am. Now it's up to you to decide if you're inclinded to figure out how to get to these places in Flikr or not. Anyone else inclined is welcome too!

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:54 (seventeen years ago)

Hi! I was just asking if you're someone who changed your name. (Ignore me, I am from some other bygone era, like turn of the millennium)

AOL poll has Obama winning 48 to 47; MSNBC focus group had everyone unanimously say, even Reps that Joe da Plumber was dumbest thing evar

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:57 (seventeen years ago)

some msnbc pundit (didn't catch her name, who cares): john mccain has misjudged the mood of the electorate from start to finish, and he's going to lose.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:59 (seventeen years ago)

joan something

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 04:59 (seventeen years ago)

oh it was joan walsh. chris matthews is totally punchy. he so <3's obama.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:00 (seventeen years ago)

the problem with mccain's incredulous "can you believe this guy?" scoffing demeanor is that voters aren't taking that question rhetorically anymore and are coming to think "you know what, i think i DO believe this obama guy"

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:06 (seventeen years ago)

Joe the Plumber responds:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4525220n

jaymc, Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:06 (seventeen years ago)

what's up vic dude good to see aol finally coming around (they also sez "final debate gets nazzzty" i gotta confess i love the dung they put on their newspages). i've seen wiggy before but didn't know she was a laxorz why u gotta give her the high hat man!

deep you (tremendoid), Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:11 (seventeen years ago)

they didn't spell nasty with z's to be clear

deep you (tremendoid), Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:16 (seventeen years ago)

Joe the Plumber, member of the $250k/yr middle class.

Dan I., Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:18 (seventeen years ago)

tossing a football around, only makes 250K a year, what a regular guy!!!!

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:19 (seventeen years ago)

and reminds you of sammy davis jr - wow! a nice, black dancer dude. heyyy all blacks must be good @ dancing!!

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:19 (seventeen years ago)

(hey tremendoid i just thought wiggy was the latest alias for someone else, sorry so out of it. when was the last time i came to a FAP, like 2 and a half years ago?)

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:21 (seventeen years ago)

Ignoring that, since Sammy Davis Jr could be an example of anyone who tap dances -- maybe Gregory Hines would have been a better example? -- but ignoring that, I didn't notice too much tap dancing from Obama at all on that question. I don't think Joe would have been happy with any answer other than, "No, I'm not going to raise your taxes. Nope. Not you, Joe. And by the way, once I'm president, do you have any personal enemies you need me to deal with? Cause I'll be able to do that. President and all."

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:24 (seventeen years ago)

October 16, 2008
Categories: Debates
The Joe file

Two readers with access to the Ohio voter file say that Joe Wurzelbacher's inluence on this cycle will be limited in one way: He doesn't appear to be registered to vote.

(And yes, the freelance opposition research on Joe began before the debate ended.)

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:27 (seventeen years ago)

the AOL weekly straw poll thing is the weirdest thing ever - it's 54% McCain with every state outside of the NE & Cali red, even PA, Wa & Oregon

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/straw-poll/

it also means nothing except to show where the over-50 luddites who still have AOL addresses are (i can only log on there coz my dad still uses it)

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:27 (seventeen years ago)

The original Joe conversation -

how much more direct could O have been?

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:29 (seventeen years ago)

xxxpost Also, Joe doesn't make $250k YET. But what if he DOES? Joe, you see, is livin' the dream. Joe might be for some short sharp shocks in the next year or two.

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:29 (seventeen years ago)

Raise yer hands if you've seen the 80s classic "Deal of the Century"

(i/r/t Gregory Hines)

the RHETERIC (kingfish), Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:33 (seventeen years ago)

But Kenan, it's a "slippery slope," remember? What if Obama starts to tax people who make 100K, 10K, 1K? Socialism is a contagious disease; we ust can't dance around it

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:34 (seventeen years ago)

xpost I was thinking "The Cotton Club," but ok.

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:34 (seventeen years ago)

lol people who make 10 or 1k a year have other problems.

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:35 (seventeen years ago)

Homelessness, say.

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:35 (seventeen years ago)

Quick, Michael Chiklis has to host SNL this weekend.

Eazy, Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:38 (seventeen years ago)

totally

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:38 (seventeen years ago)

yah, i was just referencing how plumber kept saying "slippery slope" in cbs interview

watch him come out with new insta-celebrity status and morph to full time fox commentator by next week

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:43 (seventeen years ago)

yah, i was just referencing

i'm with you, it's all :)

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:46 (seventeen years ago)

yeah maybe obama's guilty of not condescending enough, "uh... joe, there's this thing called progressive taxation"

(hey tremendoid i just thought wiggy was the latest alias for someone else, sorry so out of it. when was the last time i came to a FAP, like 2 and a half years ago?)

the figueroa was the last time i saw you i think, you gotta come out! in a manner of speaking ). the first FAP of the obama era is going to demand much more liquor than we've been heretofore accustomed to

deep you (tremendoid), Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:47 (seventeen years ago)

This is true re: drink.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:51 (seventeen years ago)

fuck joe the fucking plumber

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 16 October 2008 05:59 (seventeen years ago)

i wonder if dubya's gonna still be in theatres nov.4. i'll drink to that!

deep you (tremendoid), Thursday, 16 October 2008 06:05 (seventeen years ago)

Hi ― Vichitravirya_XI, I am welcoming your interest in who the hell I am! I have had THE worst problem with being a "part timer" since the change of host in ILX from the former to the sandbox to the ultimate =new ILX. everything is So different and so many of us have adopted new names. I for one, remained intact name-wise yet a lot of us started fresh with new names. So I say it's still me, Wiggywoo! Wiggywoo is Wiggywoo.

Looking forward to continued correspondence, Wiggy.

Wiggy Woo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 06:20 (seventeen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/w1nt3rmut3/SenatorMcTongue.jpg

seriously what the fuck is going on here, he looks like he's doing the monster mash.

reddening, Thursday, 16 October 2008 06:22 (seventeen years ago)

Quick, Michael Chiklis has to host SNL this weekend.

― Eazy, Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:38 AM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark

ROFLZ! Coincidentally, i just got home from a debate/baseball gathering and was going to relax in bed and watch the new episode of "The Shield" from last night (great fucking season of that btw. Going out in style), hoping to quell some political overload, and now I won't be able to stop thinking of Joe the Fucking Plumber on my way to the Zs.

Pillbox, Thursday, 16 October 2008 06:28 (seventeen years ago)

xpost Look carefully, and the first and last photos were taken at the exact same moment, or extremely close.

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 06:29 (seventeen years ago)

you have to see the middle one full-size 'cause it funny and it cracks me up every time I look at it:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/w1nt3rmut3/Senator-McTongue-middle.jpg

Dan I., Thursday, 16 October 2008 06:41 (seventeen years ago)

*shudder*

It's weird and creepy.

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 06:42 (seventeen years ago)

Hey but thanks for the supersize.

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 06:43 (seventeen years ago)

i saw that pic before I saw the debate and waited for this. he was trying to get around the desk and did a 'funny' at Bob Schieffer but fuck if that photo doesn't sum up him and his entire campaign. The ship sank before this debate even started, this was like rubbing salt in the wounds.

akm, Thursday, 16 October 2008 06:45 (seventeen years ago)

http://i36.tinypic.com/2i041a1.jpg

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 06:45 (seventeen years ago)

The original Joe conversation - http://www.youtube.com/v/vFC9jv9jfoA&hl=en

how much more direct could O have been?

― Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:29 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

^^^

sleep, Thursday, 16 October 2008 07:00 (seventeen years ago)

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0boQdoG9n1awD/340x.jpg

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 October 2008 07:42 (seventeen years ago)

great moment

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 16 October 2008 07:48 (seventeen years ago)

also fuck joe the plumber srsly

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 16 October 2008 07:49 (seventeen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Plumbers

gabbneb, Thursday, 16 October 2008 07:51 (seventeen years ago)

haha

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 October 2008 07:53 (seventeen years ago)

endorsements. will we be hearing soon from hagel? bloomberg? powell? gates?

gabbneb, Thursday, 16 October 2008 08:01 (seventeen years ago)

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5251/mccainbugginmc2.gif

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 16 October 2008 08:46 (seventeen years ago)


Still in denial.

no amount of cajolery (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 16 October 2008 10:43 (seventeen years ago)

"Just one more stop towards socialism"
Why is anyone pretending that this guy hasn't decided who he's voting for yet?

no amount of cajolery (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 16 October 2008 10:46 (seventeen years ago)

"step"

no amount of cajolery (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 16 October 2008 10:47 (seventeen years ago)

"I'm middle class. You've seen my house."

But Mr. $250,000, are you struggling to pay your mortgage?

I've been told all my life that I'm middle class, but I'm starting to think that all they were really saying is that I'm white and I clean up ok, so I can be "middle class" anytime I want to claim to be. Don't mean much else.

I am about ready to punch a hole in the wall if I hear the words "middle class" one more time today. And who gives a shit. I rent.

crusty but benign (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2008 10:52 (seventeen years ago)

Our plumber's name is really "Joe the Plumber". He's got "Joe the Plumber" in huge letters on his truck. I wonder how this will play for him.

Maria :D, Thursday, 16 October 2008 11:13 (seventeen years ago)

Everyone in America seems to think they're middle class, except for the Boss maybe. Whereas only about 5% of people in the UK, including me, think we are (but we think the Boss is too).

the pinefox, Thursday, 16 October 2008 11:15 (seventeen years ago)

I'm high class

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 11:15 (seventeen years ago)

You have bells and whistles in your house?

Nicholas Passant, Thursday, 16 October 2008 11:24 (seventeen years ago)

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/5578/wrestlingposteryv6.jpg

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Thursday, 16 October 2008 11:32 (seventeen years ago)

"Keith Elliot Greenberg": worst wrestling name ever.

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Thursday, 16 October 2008 11:32 (seventeen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/SenatorMcTongue.jpg

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 October 2008 11:38 (seventeen years ago)

Why are we seeing that again? It confuses me.

Should us non-USA liberal jerks be concerned with how this Joe the Plumber thing is playing out? Over here a couple of rightwing journos are jumping on it like it could be a turning point.

no amount of cajolery (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 16 October 2008 11:59 (seventeen years ago)

his name is known so a grimace can be used as a last resort for a memorable impression ,reverse-'Band-Aid Bandit' style (?)

Sébastien, Thursday, 16 October 2008 12:14 (seventeen years ago)

what the hell are you talking about

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 16 October 2008 12:17 (seventeen years ago)

srsly

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Thursday, 16 October 2008 12:19 (seventeen years ago)

guys Sebastian's cool, let's all chill.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 October 2008 12:21 (seventeen years ago)

Even anyone who even looks like Chiklis ends up being douchey.

Nicole, Thursday, 16 October 2008 12:23 (seventeen years ago)

""We've seen big pieces of gauze on his face," says Ellison Smith with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement . "We've seen circles, tape."

Police theorize he might be (...) trying to divert attention "

Sébastien, Thursday, 16 October 2008 12:26 (seventeen years ago)

I agree.

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Thursday, 16 October 2008 12:28 (seventeen years ago)

I might post the tongue thing again.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 October 2008 12:30 (seventeen years ago)

Good morning!

Frum:

Ayers is repellent. It's awful that Obama kept company with him. And yes it's true his characterization of the relationship is less than forthright. Still, in the midst of today's financial panic, I cannot help thinking that trying to win this election by hitting this theme is a little like Herbert Hoover trying to save himself in 1932 by pointing out that Gov. Roosevelt had signed a petition in favor of Sacco and Vanzetti .

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 October 2008 12:35 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.gorillasushi.com/images/imce/Image/Jason/repubpics/mccain.jpg

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 16 October 2008 12:35 (seventeen years ago)

i still don't think those tongue pics are real. Nice call on the monster mash tho

Vichitravirya_XI, Thursday, 16 October 2008 12:39 (seventeen years ago)

Most everyone who has a mortgage in the US considers themselves to be middle class. That's MIDDLE middle class. Lower middle class is something 'other' people are.

LOL McCain on class warfare. LOL his pudgy little man-hands with the air-quotes.

Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 13:14 (seventeen years ago)

If real, these tongue pics are the most surreal thing I've seen in this election (after Palin's pick, obviously).

Snowballing, Thursday, 16 October 2008 13:16 (seventeen years ago)

The tongue pics are real.

Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 13:17 (seventeen years ago)

McNasty sticking his tongue out was the only memorable thing in the last 10 mins (all I saw).

I am about ready to punch a hole in the wall if I hear the words "middle class" one more time

what took so long?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 16 October 2008 13:22 (seventeen years ago)

the top and bottom tongues are the same moment and the middle one is when he was like "this way, that way?" trying to get around the desk so he could wave at the front of the stage w/ cindy and stick his tongue out again

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 13:27 (seventeen years ago)

my pussy's so hot
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/SenatorMcTongue.jpg

coznebb (cozwn), Thursday, 16 October 2008 13:41 (seventeen years ago)

I demand video evidence

Nhex, Thursday, 16 October 2008 13:47 (seventeen years ago)

From TPM's Election Central dailiy round-up:

Joe Wurzelbacher, aka "Joe The Plumber," told Katie Couric last night that John McCain delivered a solid performance and that he still doesn't know where Barack Obama stands. He particularly didn't like Obama on taxes. "But, you know, question, so he's going to do that now (raise taxes) for people who make $250,000 a year. When's he going to decide that $100,000 is too much, you know? I mean, you're on a slippery slope here."

Hey Joe -- what fucking Cadillac kind of slope is your rich ass sliding on that $150K ain't no thing?

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 13:49 (seventeen years ago)

anyone who goes on about the American Dream should be deported.

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 16 October 2008 13:54 (seventeen years ago)

kill joe the plumber! terrorist!

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 13:54 (seventeen years ago)

reading the transcript i thought obama gave joe a great answer, and if he really "doesnt know where obama stands" than he can go fuck himself because he probably wasnt paying attention

max, Thursday, 16 October 2008 13:59 (seventeen years ago)

But, you know, question, so he's going to do that now (raise taxes) for people who make $250,000 a year

No, fuckface, he's going to raise taxes for people who people who make $250,001 a year, and that $1 will get taxed 39 cents instead of the current 36 cents. Oh noes! How will you afford that extra three cents?!

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:02 (seventeen years ago)

Dems hate plumbers

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:03 (seventeen years ago)

yes he is either totally stupid or just doesn't like the fact that the $20,000 or so that he maybe might possibly earn in the future will still be taxed at a higher rate and has decided just to inject vague doubt into obama's policies

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:06 (seventeen years ago)

those three cents are the american dream right there, being spread around and spent before your eyes

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:10 (seventeen years ago)

I don't want no eloquent Arab terrorist spreading around my goddamn wealth! Enough is enough!

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:12 (seventeen years ago)

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/1/9/4/194d436a3126ef45c53360a412f19de5.gif

eman, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:21 (seventeen years ago)

That's not true. He's a decent family man, so there's no way he's an Arab.

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:22 (seventeen years ago)

i still don't think those tongue pics are real. Nice call on the monster mash tho

did you watch the whole debate? the camera was on him afterwards when he was trying to figure out which side of the table to cross to get to Bob Schieffer. He zig-zagged a bit and then made that face. If you demand video evidence I would suggest any of the places that are streaming the debate.

ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:22 (seventeen years ago)

"Just one more stop towards socialism"
Why is anyone pretending that this guy hasn't decided who he's voting for yet?

i saw very little of the debate last night or the ensuing coverage (because i simply can not take it any more), but i decided that this joe the plumber dude is a GOP sockpuppet, playing an 'undecided' voter, who is at once Joe Six-Pack and American Dream-driven entrpreneur, planted to clandestinely parrot McCain talking points as media opportunities arise

... also, i smoked a lot of pot last night.

flyover statesman (will), Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:22 (seventeen years ago)

i thought i read somewhere dude wasn't even registered to vote

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:23 (seventeen years ago)

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7519/47551714yl3.gif

the RHETERIC (kingfish), Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:24 (seventeen years ago)

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/5214/21820476vh7.gif

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/8019/pinkyan2.jpg

the RHETERIC (kingfish), Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:26 (seventeen years ago)

if he were actually registered, he'd vote for mccain, if he actually earned $250,000

it's all hypothetical but that doesn't mean it isn't allimportant

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:27 (seventeen years ago)

it's actually not important if he can't vote

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:27 (seventeen years ago)

you still don't understand

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:28 (seventeen years ago)

not registered to vote, bitching about (as far as I understand it) a 3% tax increase, from 33 to 36%? stfu.

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:29 (seventeen years ago)

But do you socialists know how expensive NFL Sunday Ticket is? Especially if you have 3 DirecTV receivers?

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:39 (seventeen years ago)

transcript

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/debate-transcri.html

Edward III, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:39 (seventeen years ago)

lol latimes

the obamas look presidential, the mccains still doing the monster mash

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/images/2008/10/15/debate1015wivesspencerplattgtty.jpeg

Edward III, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:41 (seventeen years ago)

with or w/out irony, the next use of "looking presidential" and you get Paul Begala's head grafted onto yr neck.

Obama counters w/ new endorsement:

http://www.tias.com/stores/mspackratz/pictures/z2238a.jpg

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:45 (seventeen years ago)

how come mccain kept talking about autism w/r/t Palin? none of her kids are autistic, are they?

akm, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:51 (seventeen years ago)

if begala's head were transplanted to my body I would saw off his tongue with a rusty tuna can lid

Edward III, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:51 (seventeen years ago)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/3rd_debate.gif

Edward III, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:52 (seventeen years ago)

^ debate transcript ^

kind of sad that plumber is not larger

Edward III, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:52 (seventeen years ago)

"plumber" bigger than "rights, teachers, world...
xpost

rent, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:54 (seventeen years ago)

I don't think Joe the Plumber was a plant. Lots of real people think the way he thinks about taxes - it's just that they're usually Republicans. I think it says a lot about this year that even a guy with such right-leaning views on economic policy would still be marginally undecided, or would care enough to go to an Obama rally, and would try and persuade him to back a flat tax (good luck with that, Joe).

o. nate, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:54 (seventeen years ago)

I did drink everytime they said plumber and ran out of beer

Edward III, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:56 (seventeen years ago)

"plumber" bigger than "rights, teachers, world...

lol @ partisan hacks giving OBAMA any guff (if not as much as McCain ffs) for giving Joe free airtime

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:56 (seventeen years ago)

Full Joe-The-Plumber conversation is out there and linked earlier here. The fact that folks can watch that and not just get info second-hand through newscasters might help Obama even more -- can you imagine Bush having a conversation like that? Or McCain, given his slip-up that Obama corrected last night?

Eazy, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:57 (seventeen years ago)

something didn't ring true about his follow-up question that went smthg like "The reason I'm asking about the american dream...smthg smthg." like he was trying to his talking points of his own.

xposts

rent, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:57 (seventeen years ago)

how come mccain kept talking about autism w/r/t Palin? none of her kids are autistic, are they?

Autism, Down's Syndrome, it's all the same to him. He also can't distinguish a personal attack from an attack on his policies.

Jaq, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:58 (seventeen years ago)

no rallies - joe the plumber was just throwing a football on his street when obama showed up

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:58 (seventeen years ago)

Obama has succeeded really well in avoiding fighting buzzwords with buzzwords, and instead giving brief answers knowing that the 12" extended answers can be found easily (and that the full videos are being watched).

Eazy, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:59 (seventeen years ago)

plumber joe def came prepared - easily couldve come up w/all that on his own tho - maybe his message board friends prepped him - the flat tax angle surely points out that it wasnt any sort gop heavies

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:00 (seventeen years ago)

can you imagine Bush having a conversation like that? Or McCain, given his slip-up that Obama corrected last night?

Nope. I cannot. Not even close.

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:00 (seventeen years ago)

Can you imagine Sarah Freakin' Palin having an off the cuff conversation like that? With policy specifics and math?

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:07 (seventeen years ago)

I can't believe pundits (on cnn no less) are *still* saying things like "mccain corrected a supporter by saying obama is not an arab, he's a decent family man"

how dare you call him an arab

Edward III, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:09 (seventeen years ago)

id love to see a palin/joe the plumber back and forth - thered be some serious chemistry i bet

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:10 (seventeen years ago)

that is not only not allimportant but completely irrelevant

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:10 (seventeen years ago)

also, big roffles at mccain's "we'll take shellshocked veterans and have them teach at public schools without training or certification"

this man has SOLUTIONS

Edward III, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:12 (seventeen years ago)

i decided that this joe the plumber dude is a GOP sockpuppet, playing an 'undecided' voter, who is at once Joe Six-Pack and American Dream-driven entrpreneur, planted to clandestinely parrot McCain talking points as media opportunities arise

you think?

gabbneb, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:13 (seventeen years ago)

I can't believe pundits (on cnn no less) are *still* saying things like "mccain corrected a supporter by saying obama is not an arab, he's a decent family man"

The honorable Bill Bennett whipped out that limp dick comment, and should be commended for his stalwart support of and belief in bullshit talking-points-cum-examples like that.

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:14 (seventeen years ago)

i love trenchant cnn analysis:

The real winner of Wednesday's debate is probably Joe Wurzelbacher, an Ohio plumber who is about to purchase a plumbing company.

...

Joe's phone is probably ringing off the hook today, so maybe he is not the real winner.

Jordan, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:16 (seventeen years ago)

probably

Jordan, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:16 (seventeen years ago)

it wasn't just bennett though, it was somebody who should know better

xp

Edward III, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:17 (seventeen years ago)

We need to encourage programs such as Teach for America and Troops to Teachers where people, after having served in the military, can go right to teaching and not have to take these examinations which -- or have the certification that some are required in some states.

under a mccain administration your children would be taught by people who can't pass certification exams

where do I sign

Edward III, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:17 (seventeen years ago)

at one point during the debate I was like, "mccain needs a hug"

Edward III, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

im still pretty sure joe was talking abt his plumbing company having more than $250k in revenue

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

if he ends up buying it

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:19 (seventeen years ago)

I thought so to -- I missed that he wanted to buy up a company, only that he might want to expand his own by buying another truck, etc.

Eazy, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:20 (seventeen years ago)

he went back and forth - at first he was like "i want to buy a company" then he was like "what if i want to buy another truck". anyway i'm not sure i get how joe the plumbing man helps mccain - obama's answer to him was about as comprehensive and reasonable and respectful as it gets

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:21 (seventeen years ago)

and actually during that video of their exchange, "joe" got a weird transfixed look in his eyes and i thought he was actually going to kiss obama

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:22 (seventeen years ago)

yah he got his pants charmed off

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:25 (seventeen years ago)

yeah he was trying to tell fox news later that he wasn't starstruck but he definitely was a bit

unfortunately, obama's comprehensive and respectful explanation is worth nil, to joe sixpacks, if the person it was aimed and and tailored to decides to just publicly say "yeah well he can sure speak eloquent but I still don't know where he stands"

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:26 (seventeen years ago)

The one thing I hear from everyone of all political persuasions is how much they hate it when politicians say, "The other day I was talking to Joe Schomonso from Shaker Heights, Ohio..."

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:29 (seventeen years ago)

I can't believe pundits (on cnn no less) are *still* saying things like "mccain corrected a supporter by saying obama is not an arab, he's a decent family man"

how dare you call him an arab

― Edward III, Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:09 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Campbell Brown addressed this.

jaymc, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:30 (seventeen years ago)

well she had a golden opportunity to push that position when people repeated it in front of her last night but no dice

campbell brown was looking mighty, uh, annoying last night tho

Edward III, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:36 (seventeen years ago)

this cannot be posted enough

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20081016/i/r1772410910.jpg?

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:43 (seventeen years ago)

holy shit!

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:44 (seventeen years ago)

seriously?

Jordan, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:48 (seventeen years ago)

yeah he totally did that at the end, did u guys not see it, it was crazy

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:49 (seventeen years ago)

we should just put this up every 30 posts or so

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7519/47551714yl3.gif

Edward III, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:58 (seventeen years ago)

It made me really tense when he did that, and my wife feels genuinely sorry for him.

pj, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:59 (seventeen years ago)

i'd really like to see Obama get tough with these folks so concerned with this "spreading of the wealth" meme -- like "hey, assholes, this isn't just to unburden the millions of folks you think are too lazy or stupid to 'make it' the way you did, but also because we have retarded, out of control debt and it's the reponsible, prudent thing to do. It has to be taken care of. Now. I'm sorry, but them's the breaks. You love your kids, right? you want we should just leave it to them? of course not, dickface. bills have to be paid, ill-advised, revenue obliterating wars have to be avoided, faith in the USD has to be restored - ASAP. I mean, that's 'conservative.' Maybe you'll think next time before you vote for a sociopathic liar, hell-bent on ruining our already fragile standing on the geopolitical stage. Twice."

flyover statesman (will), Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:00 (seventeen years ago)

okay McCain doing shit like that makes him infinitely more likable

still not voting for him

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:01 (seventeen years ago)

ha heres the clip i was talking abt last might of david brooks on charlie rose claiming campaign mccain isnt real mccain

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:02 (seventeen years ago)

brooks is the biggest ninny in the entire world

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:02 (seventeen years ago)

Fessing up that you do not have magical powers over the budget is something any candidate goes to great lengths to avoid, xxxp

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:02 (seventeen years ago)

lol at brooks: "he fought a -- he is fighting a good campaign"

caek, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:04 (seventeen years ago)

Obama's campaign should just slap a "OBAMA '08" slogan at the top of that photo and put it on billboards.

Eazy, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:04 (seventeen years ago)

important joe the plumber link

max, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:04 (seventeen years ago)

I Love Cricket is your official clearinghouse for all Joe The Plumber related information and news events.

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:06 (seventeen years ago)

Obama's campaign should just slap a "OBAMA '08" "MCCAIN '08" slogan at the top of that photo and put it on billboards.

Edward III, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:12 (seventeen years ago)

i'd really like to see Obama get tough with these folks so concerned with this "spreading of the wealth" meme

i wouldn't even bother. i think this is a year where the more often mccain says obama's going to "spread the wealth," the better it is for obama.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:21 (seventeen years ago)

Joe The Plumber doesn't even have a license to...uh...plumb.

Sara Sara Sara, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:24 (seventeen years ago)

I'd like to chew up the wealth and spread the resulting paste between two intact pieces of wealth

Edward III, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:26 (seventeen years ago)

Wurzelbacher, 34, said he doesn't have a good plan put together on how he would buy Newell Plumbing and Heating.
He said the business consists of owner Al Newell and him. Wurzelbacher said he's worked there for six years and that the two have talked about his taking it over at some point.
"There's a lot I've got to learn," he said.

gabbneb, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:31 (seventeen years ago)

starting to feel bad for joe the plumber ...

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:33 (seventeen years ago)

no

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:33 (seventeen years ago)

(i just get the sense this isn't going to end well. fast forward to a "where is he now" story in 2012, where he's trying to pull his life back together after an alcohol-induced bankruptcy, complaining that his benefits are about to run out.)

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:35 (seventeen years ago)

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7672/mccainlickcopyqn7.jpg

eman, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:35 (seventeen years ago)

stupid fucking asshole idiot reaping the fucking media whirlwind -- he should flush himself down the toilet and hope a real plumber comes along if he clogs it up

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:37 (seventeen years ago)

I'm not currently in a position where I'd even be marginally affected by a v slightly higher tax band and may never actually be but I will go out of my way to make a major point of defending people w/ much, much higher incomes on TV

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:41 (seventeen years ago)

Joe & Tax Liens

carson dial, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:41 (seventeen years ago)

xpost It's the American Dream!

Alex in SF, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:42 (seventeen years ago)

Oh Wurzelbacherpaws

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:43 (seventeen years ago)

I wish someone on TV had the guts to say that the Weather Underground were kinda cool.

polyphonic, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:45 (seventeen years ago)

i am starting to pity john mccain, a lot.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:47 (seventeen years ago)

I wish someone on TV had the guts to say that the Weather Underground were kinda cool.

i keep hoping someone'll get confused and go into a rant about the velvet underground.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:49 (seventeen years ago)

he's sold his soul

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:50 (seventeen years ago)

but he's not sold his soldier

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:50 (seventeen years ago)

I think Obama's inauguration party should include the Digital Underground.

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:52 (seventeen years ago)

No pity for McCain.

Odds of him finishing his current term in the Senate? (2004-2010)

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:53 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.eisenstadtgroup.com/2008/10/15/joe-the-plumber-wurzelbacher-related-to-charles-keating-oops/

Turns out that Joe Wurzelbacher from the Toledo event is a close relative of Robert Wurzelbacher of Milford, Ohio. Who’s Robert Wurzelbacher? Only Charles Keating’s son-in-law and the former senior vice president of American Continental, the parent company of the infamous Lincoln Savings and Loan. The now retired elder Wurzelbacher is also a major contributor to Republican causes giving well over $10,000 in the last few years.

eman, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:54 (seventeen years ago)

Odds of him finishing his current term in the Senate? (2004-2010)

those are some long odds

and what, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:54 (seventeen years ago)

shocker, xp

gabbneb, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:56 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, it kinda sucks that he made a goofy expression due to nerves and now it's the face that launched a thousand gifs but then I imagine an announcer saying "and now a word from vice-president palin" and I'm like fuck that guy

Edward III, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:57 (seventeen years ago)

i am starting to pity john mccain, a lot.

u mad

mookieproof, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:58 (seventeen years ago)

Can we have a separate thread celebrating the awesomeness of that picture?

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:59 (seventeen years ago)

Best of the Internet: US Election 2008 Edition

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:00 (seventeen years ago)

yeah let's not get ahead of ourselves here

xp

Jordan, Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:01 (seventeen years ago)

my wife's line has been, "mccain says he loves america but picking palin was like making out your will and putting down the babysitter as legal guardian"

Edward III, Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:01 (seventeen years ago)

wife OTM

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:01 (seventeen years ago)

Takin' that Drudge iconography of goofy Hillary photos and flippin' the script and throwin' it back.

Eazy, Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:04 (seventeen years ago)

EDWARD'S WIFE/JOE THE PLUMBER 2012!

Little Hussein (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:05 (seventeen years ago)

i would vote for my babysitter over sarah palin. (either of them -- the polish nanny or the 16-yr-old kid from down the hall.)

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:06 (seventeen years ago)

listen i'm not saying i'm gonna vote for the guy, i just feel pity for him the way you pity the tragic anti-hero who ruins his entire life in his quest for power in a shakespeare play, ok?

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:07 (seventeen years ago)

hay schef i webmaild u fyi

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:08 (seventeen years ago)

o i c!!!! i never remember to check the email that is attached to this account but i got it!

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

thweet

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:11 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27197318?GT1=43001

guyz what if cheney dies before november then bush names mccain as his new vp and he can run as GETTING THINGS DONE

and what, Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:11 (seventeen years ago)

oh wow!!! I just logged into that account and this is what is there:

From: Barack Obama <i✧✧✧@barackob✧✧✧.c✧✧>
Date: Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:01 AM
Subject: From the debate hall
To: Adam Schefter <theschef✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧>

Adam --

I just finished the last debate before the election.

Now the outcome of this campaign is up to you. I need your help to get our message out -- and to get out the vote.

I wouldn't ask for your support if this campaign didn't urgently need it.

Your donation of $5 or more today is essential to our unprecedented get out the vote operation in these final days.

etc etc you get the point but barack to adam schefter!!

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:12 (seventeen years ago)

guyz what if cheney dies before november then bush names mccain as his new vp and he can run as GETTING THINGS DONE

― and what, Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:11 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i fully support this scenario

also lol mobilize the schefter vote

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:13 (seventeen years ago)

i totally get why mccain did the tongue thing here tho

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20081016/capt.1924228c0ff44e7fa21291e052c2c7ca.presidential_debate_nyts143.jpg?x=400&y=333&q=85&sig=80NPuzvTB6Mp6w2nNTukmA--

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:15 (seventeen years ago)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3275/2947564116_911120b759_o.gif

THE REAL BARACK OBAMA IS A DUDE WHO WILL NOT STOP HARASSING TIME MAGAZINE MAN OF THE YEAR 2007, ADAM SCHEFTER

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:19 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyzay/2947564116/

you can see it in real size there i guess wtf ilx

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:20 (seventeen years ago)

lol its cause i set up a profile for him on my.barackobama.com

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:23 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.bradblog.com/Images/siren.gif

Multiple fraudulent Schefters registered by ACORN

DEVELOPING ....

http://www.bradblog.com/Images/siren.gif

dmr, Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:27 (seventeen years ago)

hahahahahaha now he's getting harassed 94/7 by these guys!

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:28 (seventeen years ago)

also the fraudulent Adam Schefter voter registration and campaign donation

nabisco, Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:28 (seventeen years ago)

aww, xpost

nabisco, Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:28 (seventeen years ago)

lol

dmr, Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:33 (seventeen years ago)

(personal note to jhoshea the plumber: i webmailed u back!)

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:37 (seventeen years ago)

can we have a "my tongue is so hot" gif?

coznebb (cozwn), Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:43 (seventeen years ago)

would u settle for a

http://i35.tinypic.com/dztob9.jpg

gif?

eman, Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:51 (seventeen years ago)

listen i'm not saying i'm gonna vote for the guy, i just feel pity for him the way you pity the tragic anti-hero who ruins his entire life in his quest for power in a shakespeare play, ok?

schef otm

stet, Thursday, 16 October 2008 17:58 (seventeen years ago)

Joe Biden's horny-David-Straithairn look is priceless.

Eazy, Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:00 (seventeen years ago)

my pussy's so hot

kawał dobrej piosenki (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:01 (seventeen years ago)

http://mtblog.vanityfair.com/online/politics/6.jpg

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:03 (seventeen years ago)

BLEURGH Joe the plumber is an in-law of...Charles Keating.

Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:10 (seventeen years ago)

That tank needs more guns and missiles. And lasers.

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:10 (seventeen years ago)

And a hot pussy.

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:11 (seventeen years ago)

Tanks and pussy DO NOT MIX.

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:12 (seventeen years ago)

enough with that gif, mk?

gabbneb, Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:13 (seventeen years ago)

they're not going to stop, because it is the closest any of them have been to a pussy in a while ZING ZANG ZONG

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:13 (seventeen years ago)

http://i35.tinypic.com/dztob9.jpg

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:13 (seventeen years ago)

Let the record show that the last reference to puss was made by a married man.

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:14 (seventeen years ago)

That GIF wasn't funny the first time but somehow after 100000000000000000 iterations it has grown incredibly funny.

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:14 (seventeen years ago)

http://i35.tinypic.com/dztob9.jpg

i agreee dan especially when people complain about it

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:14 (seventeen years ago)

(remember when we could change our usernames to pictures?)

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:15 (seventeen years ago)

http://i35.tinypic.com/dztob9.jpg

omar little, Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:15 (seventeen years ago)

wow

http://i35.tinypic.com/dztob9.jpg (Mr. Que), Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:15 (seventeen years ago)

Tanks and pussy DO NOT MIX.

― David R., Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:12 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?showall=true&bookmarkedmessageid=5&boardid=77&threadid=30

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:17 (seventeen years ago)

nsfw btw^

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:17 (seventeen years ago)

Let the record show that the last reference to puss was made by a married man.

let the record show that as a divorced woman that doesn't mean a damn thing sir.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:18 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.classicmoviecorner.com/images/harvey.jpg

here is a picture of senator mccain admiring a portrait he has commissioned of himself and his good friend joe the plumber.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:20 (seventeen years ago)

To borrow the GOP Official Phrase of 08, the only chill down my spine I've gotten all campaign is the thought of using returning troops as teachers without requiring any qualifications beyond the "don't be developmentally disabled" and "don't have any serious felony convictions" the military currently uses and the requirement of one year of college , as if we've decided that between Hearts & Minds and No Child Left Behind the skill-set of the military is now identical to that of childhood education.

nabisco, Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:23 (seventeen years ago)

everyone who supports that should have to watch generation kill first

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:39 (seventeen years ago)

http://media.tumblr.com/BUFg4AYaPf4t72qn6jYLcLtZo1_r2_500.jpg

coznebb (cozwn), Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:39 (seventeen years ago)

everyone who supports that should have to watch generation kill first

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:39 PM (19 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

omg funnest teachers ever!

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:40 (seventeen years ago)

http://media.tumblr.com/JBhosIOmMf491yppJF7MZGIxo1_500.jpg

coznebb (cozwn), Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:40 (seventeen years ago)

http://media.tumblr.com/BUFg4AYaPf4t72qn6jYLcLtZo1_r2_500.jpg

ahahahhahahaaahhhaaa

and what, Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:40 (seventeen years ago)

lolololololol indeed

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:42 (seventeen years ago)

mccain debate face montage

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:50 (seventeen years ago)

this Joe the P horseshit wd've made for a much more astute political movie than that Kevin Costner bomb a couple months back.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:52 (seventeen years ago)

Tanks and pussy DO NOT MIX.

Tell it to Jamie Hewlett.

jaymc, Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:55 (seventeen years ago)

http://data.tumblr.com/R75Z68Jtvf54gopuauSVnWqpo1_500.gif

eman, Thursday, 16 October 2008 19:28 (seventeen years ago)

wo

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 October 2008 19:29 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.state.gov/cms_images/030405_thumbs_up.jpg

goole, Thursday, 16 October 2008 19:30 (seventeen years ago)

i think at this point joe the plumber has actually given more interviews than sarah palin

and what, Thursday, 16 October 2008 19:43 (seventeen years ago)

prob - i think palins given 5 interviews 3 of which were of the extreme softball variety w/gop hacks

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 19:46 (seventeen years ago)

Joe the Secretary of State?

David R., Thursday, 16 October 2008 19:46 (seventeen years ago)

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/images/2008/10/16/barackvsmccain.jpg

senator government (jeff), Thursday, 16 October 2008 19:55 (seventeen years ago)

hahahaha

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/images/2008/10/16/mccain.jpg

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 October 2008 20:05 (seventeen years ago)

not v funny

gabbneb, Thursday, 16 October 2008 20:05 (seventeen years ago)

hahahahaha fuck you

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 October 2008 20:06 (seventeen years ago)

hahahaha like you know what funny is hahahahaha

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 October 2008 20:06 (seventeen years ago)

Those are EXTREMELY funny. Expression redolent of this guy:

http://texasholdemblogger.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/mr-yuk.jpg

Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 20:09 (seventeen years ago)

Is there another thread on ILE that is actually about the debate, or are we stuck with this bullshit.

polyphonic, Thursday, 16 October 2008 20:11 (seventeen years ago)

actually

senator government (jeff), Thursday, 16 October 2008 20:13 (seventeen years ago)

OK time to talk about the issues

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 20:14 (seventeen years ago)

Is there another thread on ILE that is actually about the debate

Take it to I Love Politics, dude.

jaymc, Thursday, 16 October 2008 20:15 (seventeen years ago)

Not that I don't love world trade center jokes or anything.

polyphonic, Thursday, 16 October 2008 20:21 (seventeen years ago)

u can start a serious discussion if u want - its ben happening sporadically throughout the thread - tho prob all the macros are a sign that people have pretty much said what they want to abt the debate

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 20:27 (seventeen years ago)

nice handle

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 October 2008 20:28 (seventeen years ago)

In his annual predictions column, William Safire predicted that this presidential election would hinge on a debate gaffe. I'm guessing he was imagining a 20th century gaffe or zing like "You're no John Kennedy" instead of the 21st-century gaffe of mccaintongue.jpg.

Again, though, after years of Drudge's goofy Hillary photos and the Dean scream, we deserve a good laugh.

Eazy, Thursday, 16 October 2008 20:55 (seventeen years ago)

mccain's "which why do i go, lol tongue" was interesting because it read to me like someone who was tensed up for the entire time, totally a ball of nerves, and was suddenly just letting it out in a really goofy, relieved "well that's over with now" moment.

omar little, Thursday, 16 October 2008 20:58 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, the guy is SO awkward

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 October 2008 20:59 (seventeen years ago)

I really wish he'd gone full-throttle on his low-level plan to win every vote in America, person by person and group by group. Joe the Plumber. Parents of kids with autism. Violet in Jacksonville. People with prosthetic limbs. Mel from Littleton. People who experience debilitating carsickness. etc.

nabisco, Thursday, 16 October 2008 22:11 (seventeen years ago)

had he appealed directly ilxors i wouldve had to seriously consider supporting him

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 22:13 (seventeen years ago)

pointing at the camera, "you can excelsior that"
yeah for sure 2nd look

jergins, Thursday, 16 October 2008 22:16 (seventeen years ago)

loool

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 22:16 (seventeen years ago)

"this one's for you, ilx" (sticks out tongue, bugs out eyes, does jazz hands)

metametadata (n/a), Thursday, 16 October 2008 22:17 (seventeen years ago)

ilx should begin grooming a candidate for 2012 now

and what, Thursday, 16 October 2008 22:18 (seventeen years ago)

"Just the other day, Senator Obama, a 4chan poster named Bob came up to you after an event and said he was seriously concerned about whose administration would make for better LOL macros"

nabisco, Thursday, 16 October 2008 22:24 (seventeen years ago)

we have a polling system, let's start running primaries

Jordan, Thursday, 16 October 2008 22:24 (seventeen years ago)

Shakey / Morbs '12

nabisco, Thursday, 16 October 2008 22:24 (seventeen years ago)

president of ilx

Jordan, Thursday, 16 October 2008 22:24 (seventeen years ago)

"Just the other day I met a mother whose uninsured child had died of a preventable disease, and I said to her ... that kid was pretty much a dick anyway."

nabisco, Thursday, 16 October 2008 22:25 (seventeen years ago)

"my friends, Mr Obama's plan to play bass through a guitar amp is simply reckless in light of our current economic conditions"

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 16 October 2008 22:28 (seventeen years ago)

"my opponent surrounds himself with advisors from the powerful ringtone lobby"

Jordan, Thursday, 16 October 2008 22:29 (seventeen years ago)

fuck you guys, seriously. Sarah Palin is completely real. we've seen pics. she has emailed several ilxors.

goole, Thursday, 16 October 2008 22:29 (seventeen years ago)

ok the 1st 7 minutes of the cbs evening news was just devoted entirely to joe the plumber related news

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Thursday, 16 October 2008 22:39 (seventeen years ago)

Slow news day.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 October 2008 22:40 (seventeen years ago)

lol goole

jergins, Thursday, 16 October 2008 22:41 (seventeen years ago)

dudes! just reading over these exchanges from the last half hour had me busting the hell up. props to all of you.

Gavin "Spinner" Mason (carne asada), Thursday, 16 October 2008 22:49 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27221645/

Wurzelbacher also acknowledged that he had no specific plans for buying Newell’s business, saying he and Newell had simply talked about the idea from time to time. He might have difficulty making the purchase: Court records from his divorce show that Wurzelbacher made $40,000 in 2006.

Even if he did buy Newell Plumbing and Heating, Obama’s tax plan wouldn’t affect him. While Wurzelbacher told Obama that he would be taxed at a higher rate because the company grossed more than $250,000 a year, Ohio business records show the company’s estimated total annual revenue as only $100,000. Actual taxable income would be even less than that.

In any event, Obama’s tax plan specifies that the higher rate would apply only to income above the $250,000 threshold. Assuming Wurzelbacher’s income as owner somehow hit $280,000 — the top end of his supposition of the company’s revenue — only the extra $30,000 would be taxed at a higher rate.

Milton Parker, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:08 (seventeen years ago)

aspiration is a killer especially if it is hollow

conrad, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:11 (seventeen years ago)

Americans have this problem where everybody thinks they are actually upper class.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:15 (seventeen years ago)

no matter how much money they make or how stupid they are

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:15 (seventeen years ago)

Miccio:

It's great to finally give this archetype a name. Joe The Plumber: the guy who isn't rich now, but worries that if he somehow becomes rich, he won't enjoy it. Why? Because he'll pay 3 cents to the dollar more on what he makes over a quarter million.

jaymc, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:18 (seventeen years ago)

hueg lols

Joe the C.R.E.E.P. Operative (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:19 (seventeen years ago)

That's too dead on the money to make me laugh!

nabisco, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:21 (seventeen years ago)

http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CMXdr9fuxf63NhCgARjCBDIIUGqwKtX_SlY

en i see kay, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:26 (seventeen years ago)

The fuck?

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:41 (seventeen years ago)

seriously miccio wherever you are -- god bless you for that.

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 17 October 2008 00:03 (seventeen years ago)

Watching it on tape now.

After McCain throws the entire bucket of Ayers sleaze Obama's way, he concludes by saying "and my campaign is all about getting this economy back on track!"

and Obama actually LAUGHS, OUT LOUD. God

Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 October 2008 00:15 (seventeen years ago)

Also, this article is pure, spun gold:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27221645

Legally speaking, Wurzelbacher isn’t a plumber, because he isn’t licensed by Toledo, Lucas County or the state of Ohio. A representative of the Toledo Building Inspection Division said a plumber must be registered with the state and only then can apply for a city plumbing contractor’s license.

Wurzelbacher said he worked under the license held by his boss, Al Newell of Newell Plumbing and Heating Co. of Toledo. Newell is a licensed plumbing contractor in Toledo, records show. But anyone working under Newell should have a journeyman’s plumbing license or an apprenticeship license, officials said.

Building Inspection officials said Newell was responsible for making sure that anyone working under him was licensed. The Toledo Plumbing Board of Control may consider sanctions against Wurzelbacher or Newell, officials told NBC affiliate WNWO of Toledo.

“There’s a lot I’ve got to learn” about the plumbing business, Wurzelbacher said Thursday.

Wurzelbacher also acknowledged that he had no specific plans for buying Newell’s business, saying he and Newell had simply talked about the idea from time to time. He might have difficulty making the purchase: Court records from his divorce show that Wurzelbacher made $40,000 in 2006.

Even if he did buy Newell Plumbing and Heating, Obama’s tax plan wouldn’t affect him. While Wurzelbacher told Obama that he would be taxed at a higher rate because the company grossed more than $250,000 a year, Ohio business records show the company’s estimated total annual revenue as only $100,000. Actual taxable income would be even less than that.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 October 2008 00:26 (seventeen years ago)

I have not seen one person point this out:
Barack Obama - wore a flag pin.
John McCain - did not wear a flag pin.

I don't give a fuck because you don't have to wear a flag pin to be patriotic or be an American or be qualified to be elected president.

BUT, had the pins and lack of pins been reversed....oh boy.

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Sunday, 19 October 2008 02:15 (seventeen years ago)

Barack Obama - wore a flag pin.
John McCain - did not wear a flag pin.

same as debate #2 (and #1 i think?)

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Monday, 20 October 2008 01:13 (seventeen years ago)


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