2008 USGE RESULTS THREAD PS GOP U LOST DIXVILLE NOTCH LOL

15-6 Obama! The beginning of the end!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixville_Notch,_New_Hampshire

this is USGE not just USPE so feel free to crow and bawl abt ur locals as well

as of 2 days ago 55% of the oregon ballots were in. (oregon's election is mail-in voting only.)

pretty much all of the numbers this year are going to be bogglesome. I am so stoked. It's like fucking christmas.

It is really no good that I am staying up to 3am listening to old Luke Slater traxx tonight.

turn this mutha out

lol iTunes just dropped Quad City DJ's on me

Good Lord, this really is the 2nd American Election Day that we've all(more or less) been here together, right? Let this end up a bit better than it did last time.

At any rate, let's get this started. All craft report in. Get set up for your attack run.

Don't get cocky. Keep your cool.
And when they call it for Obama laugh right into their unthinkable faces.

YOUR FACE IS UNTHINKABLE!!! I LAFF INTO IT HAHAHAHA

AHAHA

Tom, you should listen to forks' fallout 3 OST about now. It'd fit in quite well with your mood.

I have mostly been having happy happy David Bowie time WRT soundtracking the election.

Kingfish, you'd know this stuff: unlike the usual 50 per cent of voters turning out, what will percentage of vote likely be? Last night our 'coolest' network news linked from VA where they were expecting 90 PER FUCKING CENT turnout there.

Naturally expect FOX etc to go with 'McCain receives more votes than any GOP candidate in history' as a result of increased turnout. Please FINISH YOUR DRINK when this happens. Then make a new one.

I'm trying to be away for most of the day actually getting things done such as hueg deadline but am drinking with the Hand and others later.

gr8 thread title tom but can you add a "good luck usa"?

no that would be

UNTHINKABLE!!!

BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Overall turnout? That's a tough call; I live in Oregon, which biases my results as we have universal vote-by-mail, and you can vote for Obama and against our stupid Repub senator whilst filling out your ballot in a bar. I say, 80%+ for Oregon, 55% for America total. Quite challops indeed, I know, but I'ma sticking with it.

T/S Unthinkable vs Inappropriate

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good luck usa

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081104/ap_on_el_pr/new_hampshire_first_votes

Wait, so Dixville Notch is a PLACE?! I thought it was some pundit, not some Lovecraft-sounding corner of nowhere.

Anywhere, here are some early-morning lolz from that article:

The town of Hart's Location reported 17 votes for Obama, 10 for McCain and two for write-in Ron Paul.

If there is pine forest nearby there will be guaranteed Paultards innit.

guys i'm watching letterman rite now and got kind of misty when the "great moments in presedential speeches" bit came and went just now u_u

http://www.google.com/logos/electionday2008.gif

The 'e' is totally jacking off in that booth

My county's auditor predicts 85% turnout. We are all mail-in.

...and WA Sec. State Sam Reed predicts 83% turnout statewide

That fuck Rossi isn't going to win, is he?

google obv in tank for obama

xp: not if I can help it

me too

I don't know if I've every been in the situation I'm in now, ie knowing with absolute certainty that at some point in the next 24 hours I'll be bawling openly, probably in public.

I'm a young sort, so let me ask the older (kind of) folks here; do elections experienced as an engaged adult always feel like this, or is this one really that special?

Nick how old are you? Are you going to be at the Grand Central Bowl or OCC parties?

Once it gets declared, I will bawl away, same as I did 4 years ago during a horrid night when ABC cut over to an interview with a bright youngish black senator who'd just been elected to national office.

This one is really that special.

Um. Tbh, I kinda think you guys need to calm down a little. Is he really going to be any better than BC?

I'm 22, and I'll be at the Doug Fir with my uncle who's been so kindly sheltering me while I get settled in PDX.

I watched the 2000 election in my room and broke my TV with a thrown shoe when it was 'called', and was an uber-dramatic, all-black-wearing, barely left my dorm for a week dork in 2004, but this is the first election where I feel like, in hindsight, whatever emotional reaction I have will be justified by something other than youthful folly.

Yeah well 2000 was a sickening joke.

Is he really going to be any better than BC?

ok this won't have any effect on the other folks who are inclined to try and continue having this insipid conversation throughout the next 48 hours, much less 4-8 years, but there is more than a little symbolic weight to this election, and the country is in a slightly different position than it was in 1992. Thanks for trying, though.

Honestly, Niles, I think a dude who governed like Clinton but *was* Barack Obama would actually exceed my expectations for this presidency.

I don't mean that he's just a symbol, either. The Obama candidacy has changed how people in the center/center-left/left think about politics. I've canvassed, registered voters, and made phone calls, all based on a genuine concern for the future of the country, and I fully expect to feel like I haven't done nearly enough compared to my contemporaries.

The Doug Fir has the Mercury party, right? I remember stopping by there last time.

Um. Tbh, I kinda think you guys need to calm down a little. Is he really going to be any better than BC?

quite probably. again, one of his strengths is that his candidacy has fired up a massive community network of people getting involved to change things, incl. those who never cared enough to get involved before. Also, I believe his economic leanings to be far more liberal/progressive than Clinton's ever were.

xp yeah, wot they said.

It's not just the guy, it's the way the guy ran his campaign. I feel like, knock wood, if the guy wins, I own a little piece of the victory. Even if he turns out to be a milquetoast centrist, that win belongs to me/us.

xpost Yeah, so, me too.

Also, milquetoast centrist is soooooooooooo much better than the past eight years.

Let's just forget the topic of this thread for a while and discuss whether or not he's really just another clone of Harry Truman.

Heh. The one thing he needs to perfect his image is a series of dashing hats. I believe this to be an inarguable point.

Yes Tom agreed, different position, but a) I'm not really trying to start a debate at all b) I am super drunk

NICK; awesome. I hope you're right. Thanks for making such an effort. Also thanks for reminding me why I'm actually pretty excited about this election.

Are there any websites where people not in the USA could get a live coverage of the election?

drudgereport.com?

BBC Radio.

Isn't that some right-wing site?

x-post

salon.com, fivethirtyeight.com, news.google.com, msnbc.com, huffingtonpost.com, uh? I mean everywhere is going to be all updating like nuts all night

Yeah, I know I could just check the news sites, but I meant like a TV coverage.

I'd just try working out one of those proxy sites for video streams, probs a little sketchy, though.

If those don't work, any of the NPR stations will be providing pretty damn good, though audio-only, election coverage.

I'd just try working out one of those proxy sites for video streams, probs a little sketchy, though.

Thanks for the advice, but I don't know what these are... Do you know any links?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080107083801AAgYzrX

Are you kidding me? Most of us over here will be drunk and hammering away at posts on here in real time, whether we want to or not. Hey sports fan, i gotcher RSS feed right here!

I'll try that one, thanks!

(x-post)

This might work for you.

http://anchorfree.com/downloads/hotspot-shield/

Puts a banner ad at the top of everything, but if you can soldier through that, it should serve your purposes. ADMIN NOTE: link to terrible adware replaced with actual free software.

what the hell are you pushing bullshit adware on people for

seriously nobody should ever use that program

I dunno I used it once when my college's webmail wouldn't let me in because apparently So. Cal. IP's were evil.

That shit bad beyond putting ads up? If so, is there an alternative?

Soz, Tom, you def. know more than me about this stuff.

I am still lacking late night bar + wifi here in venice and the cell signal where we are staying is terrible. What's more raiuno cuts off live coverage at 0230 CET/2030 EST, not sure there will be a result by then.

Heh. The one thing he needs to perfect his image is a series of dashing hats. I believe this to be an inarguable point.

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Tuomas will Finnish TV not be covering it? In England there are two stations covering the election all night (ITV1 and BBC1)

But ITV will be taking phone-ins from people trying to win 50 quid for completing the phrase B_R_CK OB_MA

"Hi, Dave in Bolton here. Yes, I am pissed. Is the answer Wendy Richards?"

The correct answer will be "Boruck Obema", a semi-professional Latvian hockey team.

Good side. Didn't Stanislaw Kyrgystzan used to be Goal Protector for those guys?

Tuomas will Finnish TV not be covering it? In England there are two stations covering the election all night (ITV1 and BBC1)

No, I don't think so. Most of it is in the middle of the night and folks have work tomorrow, so few people would watch it anyway. And when the results get in it's already morning in here, so I think they're just gonna cover it on the morning TV. Anyway, I don't own a TV set, so the Internet is my only option.

Does anyone else love it as much as I do when Pat Buchanan starts laughing to himself so hard he can't finish the zinger he's trying to tell?

It's madness that there is no scheduled Venice party but the suggestion is to try asking at the university, especially if there are Americans studying en masse. Also duh Campo Santa Margerita, there will be something going on there, because of late night drinking anyway. The place I know that's def open at 5am is not that TV in the bar sort of place.

Otherwise, your closest democratsabroad.org party is in Bologna or Florence, and there are a few in Rome.

If it is a wifi kind of place that will do.

I got bumped from ITN studio tonight : (

I am working in the library until 2, but my housemate is hosting a party at my flat, and that should be when it starts getting interesting.

2, I mean, not when the party starts. His friends are all boring and ign'unt.

Ed, your best first plan is to make enquiries at Bar Rosso in CSM. All roads lead to and from there, also duh Paradiso Perduto folks will probably be a better version of similar. ILXor's Mark C might also have info.

good luck usa

tuomas, does zattoo work in finland (don't see why not)? it has the bbc, which as tracer says is covering the election through the night; otherwise you'll probably be able to pick some coverage up on justin.tv and failing which (and depending on how their servers cope) you can stream cnn at cnn.com/pipeline

zattoo
cnn

free sex toy if you vote

http://gothamist.com/attachments/arts_jen/2008_10_maverick.jpg

GOOD LUCK USA!

Yeah, don't fuck this up.

we will fuck up whatever the fuck we like obv fyi

GOOD LUCK IRAN!

Don't Mean Nothing [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Another e-mail:

If my polling place is any indication, long lines can be as much of an indication of poll worker incompetence as it is an indication of voter enthusiasm. It is a snail's pace at my polling place in the lobby of my Chicago high-rise. Remember that when all the tv stations talk about unprecedented voter enthusiasm.

11/04 07:50 AM

i might print out todays the corner and frame it

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/conservation/reveal/graphics/large/queen_mary_deckchairs.jpg

xxxxp
Yeah, it's not like this affects anyone else in the world. Butt out Buttinski!

pls donate your username to barack obama today

http://bethyoung.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/i_voted_1.jpg
http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/Photography/Images/Promotional/jfk-salute-100days-ga.jpg

Ramos out

http://www.movie-list.com/a/airplane.jpg

I just want to say good luck. We're all counting on you.

1,994,990 people voted early in Georgia. 3,301,875 total voted in Georgia's presidential race in 2004.
-538

:O

Ugh Lopez lives in Chicago?

cd smash

http://www.featurebank.com/images/hires/lop_hires.jpg http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/character3.article.jpg

Just sayin'.

From: M4rtin J4ckson <mar✧✧✧.jack✧✧✧@st-an✧✧✧.o✧.a✧.u✧>                                   
Subject: US Election - Use of MCR Common Room                                             
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Dear Colleagues,                                                                          
                                                                                          
I am content for the MCR Common Room, in EPH, to be used to watch the US                  
Election results tonight on the following conditions:                                     
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
1) No alcohol to be taken into the Room.                                                  
                                                                                          
2) Minimal noise after midnight (13 colleagues live in EPH).                              
                                                                                          
3) Please keep the room tidy.                                                             
                                                                                          
4) Please vacate the room when the Scout arrives to clean it in the                       
morning.                                                                                  
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
The special US-style breakfast (with big screen TV) commences at 0730 in                  
the Hall.                                                                                 
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
Best Wishes,      
M4rtin J4ckson

M4rtin J4ckson h4tes fun.

Still lolling at US-style breakfast

Dear Colleagues,
                                                                                          
We will be erecting a large TV screen in Hall on the morning of 5                         
November and serving a US style Breakfast from 0730 to 0930 (Washington                   
DC 0230 to 0430) so that you can catch up on this very important moment                   
in history.                                                                               
                                                                                          
There will be further publicity.                                                          
                                                                                          
Yours,                                                                                    
                                                                                          
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Cookie Crisp and Tang

By banning booze he knows he's more likely to get someone show up for a 7.30 breakfast.

http://www.featurebank.com/images/hires/lop_hires.jpg http://www.buygreasetickets.com/images/Grease1.jpg
just sayin.

I believe there was an "incident" involving alcohol in that room earlier this term.

xp, lol

fluffernutters n fresca

AMERICANS PREFER A PROPER ENGLISH FRY UP

I VOTED!!!!!!!! IT WAS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!

Did you write-in LJ?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/04/varichmond-machines-down-no-paper-ballots/

RICHMOND (VA) - Voting machine problems at the Math and Science Center in Richmond have forced the county to switch to paper ballots at the location.

The board of elections tells CNN the location is using paper ballots after five of seven machines broke down. Callers to the CNN Hotline originally said there were no paper ballots. But the Board of Elections now says they have started using the ballots and are in the process of deploying more equipment.

(wasn't there a thread for listing possible voting shenanigans in 2004?)

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/04/vafairfax-county-machine-problems/

Fairfax County, Virginia (CNN) — General Registrar Rokey Suleman said a handful of memory cards did not work when machines were started this morning. He tells CNN that new memory cards have already been sent out to those precincts with problems. He said a "very, very small number of machines" were affected, and voters at those locations could use paper ballots instead until the problem was corrected.

Suleman said there are long lines everywhere. He added they expected that and are prepared for that. The 228 precincts in the county use both optical scan and electronic voting machines.

People started lining up to vote at 4:30am. The polls opened at 6am.

guys my polling place was such a shitshow @ 6AM with only like 8 ppl in line *_*

itd be cool if polling places were staffed w/professionals instead of volunteers

http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/11/04/your-most-memorable-moments-of-the-election/

For me, the most memorable moment happened last Saturday. I had just returned from China and called my parents to let them know I was home. The conversation turned to politics, inevitable this time of year. Usually we step on eggshells whenever this subject arises (my parents are die-hard Republicans, but I love them anyway), but this time we were all speechless. In awe of my Uncle Chuck.

Uncle Chuck is my favorite uncle – we are the scientists in the family. He came home after serving in the Navy in the South Pacific during WWII and went to school on the GI bill. Ended up with a master’s in mathematics. Worked at Oak Ridge National Lab on the very first computer systems. Went on to NASA and was one of the folks in charge of the computer program rewrites to get the Apollo 13 astronauts safely back home. He has done tremendous things and is very smart. But, he’s lived most of his life in the deep South and has somehow developed a deep racial prejudice that most of the family can’t understand. We have cringed for years whenever he has espoused on the virtues of the Bell Curve in regards to race. I could go on, but think I’ll hold back and just say he is the most racially bigoted person I know. I can’t fathom some of the things I have heard him say.

On Saturday, I learned that Uncle Chuck cast his early ballot for Senator Barack Obama for President of the USA. Nothing could have surprised me more! No matter what happens with the election tomorrow, Obama has already stirred deep, positive change in our society.

my sister waited 40min at 7am this morning

i can only really vote...OVER THE LUNCH HOUR

hay guys what is a list of free shit you get for voting today

friends queued from 5am in Virginia. polls opened at 7.

btw can we expect some election day obama basketball footage?

gbx: take the first guy's advice if you have trouble on lunch hour: http://www.theonion.com/content/amvo/long_lines_anticipated_at_polls

• coffee
• ice cream
• a sense of pride

gbx, you get krispy kreme, starbucks, ben & jerry's and a sex toy

what was this free tacos thing, is what I want to know

or was that the sex toy?

Krispy Kreme too?

Are those of you voting today in non-early voting states? I'm really glad I got mine done two weeks ago. No lines!

free stuff rundown

Crap, wish I still lived near Babes in Toyland.

One of my students drove home to Houston last night so he could vote. Bless him.

i voted. it took just 45 minutes.

oh fuck there is B&Js just around the lake from me

we don't have b&j maybe i will go to starbux later but it's a long walk

~5 ppl in line at my polling place 20 min ago. I got a slip of paper saying "thank you for voting". There were some pastries and coffee, but the line was so short I didn't have time to graze that stuff.

Oh and thanks but no thanks on smashing KJL.

imna spend the day roaming the city demanding free things

I VOTED

GIVE ME PIZZA

I voted! Got there right when it opened but there were problems with the machines. Two officials came out and the problem was fixed within about 15 mins. Probably about 40 mins. of waiting total.

i voted now let me see saw 5 free

u shd get an extra vote for watching tht

If you have voted come to the I love cricket election thread and we will give you one (1) free famous actress titty and louis will write you a poem

i should get one for each of the saws ive seen - so i get 5 votes

11/3/08, 5:00 p.m.: I'm leaving work, driving home. Four people (one of them was a child or just an extremely short person) are holding "HONK FOR OBAMA SIGNS" on a median strip, bundled up against the cold. Lots of resultant honking, but my horn's broken - something I wasn't aware of - so I roll down my window and do a sort of Arsenio-style fist pumping thing, shouting "OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMA!" One dude on the strip gets a huge smile on his face, looks right at me, and starts chanting with me! Awesome!

11/4/08 6:30 a.m.: Getting ready to leave to vote, I notice that Alecia has written "OBAMA 2008" in huge red Sharpie across our calendar.

11/4/08 7:33 a.m.: So voting was a straight cinch. Got to my polling place at 7:50 and there were maybe 30 people already in line, mostly senior citizens. No-one talking politics, nobody forcing literature. Area's semi rural so maybe no surprise on the numbers. (We vote at the Monroe Township building in Selinsgrove, PA.) I was the only non-white face or so I thought - until a few minutes after the doors opened when I saw another black person leaving. Hilarity: overheard lots of bitching about how long the wait was, how ridiculous it was. While to yours truly - who waited 3-4 hours four years ago to vote for Kerry - this wait seemed eminently reasonable. No hassle when the older ladies who run the voter rolls checked me off, spent only a minute in the voting booth, then had to feed the ballot into some machine and I was outta there. Forty people in line when I returned to my car - including lots of indians and hispanics. Struck up a conversation with a teacher who swore, adamantly that if McCain won she would never vote again for anybody ever. "I mean, you have to be brainless to vote for that guy," she said. "And don't get me started on Palin." It feels good to be done; now to keep my fingers crossed for Obama.

11/4/08 8:30 a.m.: Someone has taken maybe 30 Obama/Biden signs and fashioned them into an outward-expanding "V" on a berm adjacent to an exit ramp near the entrance to Harrisburg.

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11/3/08, 5:00 p.m.: I'm leaving work, driving home. Four people (one of them was a child or just an extremely short person) are holding "HONK FOR OBAMA SIGNS" on a median strip, bundled up against the cold. Lots of resultant honking, but my horn's broken - something I wasn't aware of - so I roll down my window and do a sort of Arsenio-style fist pumping thing, shouting "OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMA!" One dude on the strip gets a huge smile on his face, looks right at me, and starts chanting with me! Awesome!

^ok, shivers reading this

We have an Obama/Biden sign in our yard as well as stickers on our cars. Four different trick-or-treating kids came up on Friday full of Obama love. A couple of girls dressed as cheerleaders came up our walk cheering "Obama, Obama" and shaking their poms-poms. Pretty inspiring.

Yesterday driving home some guy pulled up next to me, honking, and when I looked up he pumped his fist and shouted, "Yeah, go Obama!" Every other car in Austin has Obama stickers so I was wondering if he did that to everyone.

Also, my waiting-in-line-to-vote Ipod soundtrack:

Animal Collective "Brother Sport (live on NPR)" - twice
Deerhunter "Cryptograms"
Aquarelle "In Florence" (the first few minutes, then got drawn into conversations)

caek: my mcr mailout just told me that st cross is having an "election-themed" breakfast tomorrow, which i think just about tops "US-style"? there'd better be some serious food colouring/pun action involved.

(i'm tempted to ring my friend at st cross and wheedle my way in but i think i'll be hiding in my room for the next 24 hours)

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/396/slide_396_10523_large.jpg

hell yeah

OMG I've never seen that picture.

guys my polling place was such a shitshow @ 6AM with only like 8 ppl in line *_*

lol college students sleepin in

http://edition.cnn.com/pipeline/ is not working for me on Mac. Claiming I don't have Flip4Mac installed (I just installed it, and I've restarted my browser). Does this work on Mac for anyone else? I'm white, btw.

worked in safari not firefox

working in firefox for me : /

it's not wmv anyway, it's flash innit?

caek, works for me but it asked me to upgrade flash first, not flip4mac

it's prompting me for "octoshape grid deliver enhancement" install, f that

guys nothings really gonna happen until tonight anyway relax

yeah it worked after i installed that

now i can watch cnn anchors flap their jaws about "WHAT IF THERES A TIE!!!!@#"

it works for me in camino. now i see ron paul!

ah yeah, flash version works fine. Now I need to get this WMV bullshit off my system.

mr que: I will be in a library tonight so I need to sort this out in advance

I see ron paul too!

WARNING EMO POST

I remember about 24-72 hours after 9/11 feeling warm and fuzzy and undoubtedly proud of my fellow citizens and how there was something great just over the horizon. It was a good feeling.

I feel just like that today.

ron laul more like

eh i feel the same as i felt yesterday

oh i just remembered that the church behind my house is a polling place, i should go out there and yell stuff at people

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/11/04/gall.obama.votes.jpg

Sen. Barack Obama, joined by his family, voted for Ron Paul Tuesday morning at his polling center in Chicago.(Getty Images)

OK, so we're ignoring the "erection day" thread, I hope.

Waited 25 minutes in Brooklyn to reluctantly vote for Cynthia McKinney (fuck The Man, both of em).

i saw a lady with a nasty perm (obvious mccain voter) yell at a lady handing out something (cider?) out of a wagon covered in obama signs because the union hall i voted in had signs for every democrat on the ballot on their front lawn. not electioneering though because it was far from the back entrance where the voting was. the cider lady was like i dunno, go away.

Waited 25 minutes in Brooklyn to reluctantly vote for Cynthia McKinney (fuck The Man, both of em).

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, November 4, 2008 8:42 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

I wish I was like you...

morbius i admire your dedication to building a green party movement

i wish you were too
xpost

shd I have put that in SMART QUOTES?

as I've said Tracer, I gave up on this country circa 1986. The only thing I think I'll live to see this country build is one helluva fire.

I wanted to wear my Obama shirt today but there's been some warnings about state employees displaying political stuff at work. I should've risked it anyway.

Waited 25 minutes in Brooklyn to reluctantly vote for Cynthia McKinney (fuck The Man, both of em).

http://op-for.com/simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg

as I've said Tracer, I gave up on this country circa 1986

you should get the fuck out and move, then.

just wear a big beaming smile. everyone will know.

xxpost

i'm wearing my "illinois" shirt

have received thumbs-up from both my cornershop guy and several bbc employees

I gave up on this country circa 1986. The only thing I think I'll live to see this country build is one helluva fire.

What the hell even gets you up in the morning, Morbs?

i wish you were too

sorry I don't have any unappetizing shirtless pics of myself on hand.

you should get the fuck out and move, then.

looooooooooooool, Que is our first Obamahead to go explicitly Archie Bunker on us! More to follow...

u guys cnn has just reported PALIN STILL PUMPED

What the hell even gets you up in the morning, Morbs?

The hope that I will see someone on cable match the journalistic chops of the late Tim Russert.

and of course, the imminent world series win by the new york mets

lol i <3 palin she is complete incoherent

i dont think wanting dr morbius to move to another country has anything to do with supporting obama

u guys will miss morbs when hes gone - mark my words

Archiebumker head? I don't know what that means, i can barely remember that show. . . does it mean i like to sing with my wife around the piano? because i am cool with that

i love ya morbs though <3 <3

i am doing a bad job of keeping things positive lately

Anti-cynicism pill:

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/49/l_e599fbcb00c24ef7bd7deb94360b8a12.jpg

Free Starbucks? THIS is how we roll in the fly-over!

http://i33.tinypic.com/29wlf9h.jpg

where in the flyover can i get free hope dog xp

last night two lonely dudes were standing on the corner of 6th avenue and broadway holding mccain/palin signs. No one honked their horn as they passed by.

for Que:

http://images.cafepress.com/product/26942669v2_350x350_Front.jpg

for morbs:

http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/cat_hugs_puppy.jpg

Cedar Falls, Iowa is where the dogs of democracy are grillin'. xp.

cute!

last night two lonely dudes were standing on the corner of 6th avenue and broadway holding mccain/palin signs. No one honked their horn as they passed by.

They had to start the porn shoot SOMEHOW.

omg cnn is interview chevy chase and he is being srsly weird - i had to turn it off

Que & n/a, who DID you think I was gonna vote for?? I held my nose for O in the primary.

Holding One's Nose You Can Believe In

who DID you think I was gonna vote for??

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, November 4, 2008 10:03 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://www.shsu.edu/~pin_www/pics/bobdole250.jpg

Que & n/a, who DID you think I was gonna vote for?? I held my nose for O in the primary.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, November 4, 2008 9:03 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i honestly don't care who you vote for. i just didn't realize people over the age of 20 were still voting for the green party.

btw where is the de subjectivisten election thread

the day of the election cnn digs up chevy chase?? sheesh

they were asking him if snl is in the tank for obama and he was all fuck yah what u think lady

coming back from voting this morning I got accosted on Broadway by a deranged-looking grandpa in a big down coat who tried to shove a brochure in my hand "VOTE GREEN PARTY!" he yelled and I walked away thinking "you should've voted for Obama you old knucklehead."

morbs!

Doc morbz, attackin' politics with the incisive wit of a jaded hipster thumbs-downin' the latest indie-rock band.

which Broadway was that? in a meaningless safe state?

regretting voting; only encourages them.

I have voted. A lot of bustle and people milling around, but not long lines. I was behind two people, and a mini-rush put a dozen lined up behind me, but they had about ten machines in operation so that would go quickly.

why shouldn't people in NY vote green party? what is all this whining for?

maybe I'LL vote for the Green party!

I'm in Minnesota! Who fucking cares!

one time i voted for bob dole as a joke!

i voted for nader in 2000!

uh oh an obama canvasser just parked her hybrid on my street. go away i already voted!

Seriously: with all the problems I have w/ Obama's positions, WHY should I have added my vote to his likely 25-20 point margin (more?) in New York? Just tell me why.

green party is one thing cynthia mckinney is another

I voted for Nader eight years ago b/c when it comes down to it a non-Republican vote doesn't count in Texas.

xp: yes, but I COMPROMISED bcz she was the candidate, see?

Seriously: with all the problems I have w/ Obama's positions, WHY should I have added my vote to his likely 25-20 point margin (more?) in New York? Just tell me why.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, November 4, 2008 10:12 AM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

because ilx told u to duh

i bet my dad in NY voted for nader. or he probably voted for whoever the "working families party" endorsed (prob obama) because he thinks it's funny.

obama is on the working families ticket, i think.

45+ min line at the polling station right by me this morning.

ugh why is every fucking political thread about Dr Morbius

I voted WFP for all the Dems I had to (like my legacy congresswoman Clarke) even tho I hate the political use of "FAMILIES."
The WFP is just guilt insurance for lefty Dems who think the party is gonna notice them.

Dan, they're "about me" bcz 'mainstream' Dems freak out at any deviation from their dogma.

yes he can

Meantime, Pollster and FiveThirtyEight on the wisdom of ignoring exit polls:

http://www.pollster.com/faq/faq_questions_about_exit_polls_1.php

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/ten-reasons-why-you-should-ignore-exit.html

I had something very strange happen this morning -- there was was an Obama/Biden flyer stuck to our front door which gave out information on where to find our polling station. The thing is, it was the WRONG polling station. I am still wondering if this was just Obama campaigner incompetence or gop dirty tricks.

I did vote already; I was expecting huge lines, so I was very surprised to find no line at all. There were a lot of extra voting booths set up, more than are normally available so that may have factored into it.

I tried to imagine while I waited that there was only one other McKinney voter in the place, and tried to find him/her. I think the lesbian who had the NORTHEAST ANTI-FASCISTS logo safety-pinned to her army coat was the best bet.

She is on Tracer's mailing list.

The other McKinney voter was probably some douchebag in a suit.

btw where is the de subjectivisten election thread

― GOOD LUCK USA! (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 15:06

Rolling "teh lolz" draadje

draadje report

never forget

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/POLITICS/11/04/election.president/t1land.voting.tues.29.ap.jpg

Find the McKinney voter!

http://www.posterpage.ch/exhib/ex216oba/p185097s.png

http://home.cinci.rr.com/justamerican/images/Siren_animated.gif Ja dat had ik al eens gehoord, Clinton werkt de schuld weg en vervolgens weet Bush het tot een recorddiepte te brengen. http://home.cinci.rr.com/justamerican/images/Siren_animated.gif

HET ONTWIKKELEN ZICH...

is this a thing?

never forget

― good luck usa (cozwn), Tuesday, November 4, 2008 10:24 AM

ha awesome

I just voted this morning. After waiting in the precinct line to pick up my ballot, I had to wait in some haphazard line for the voting booths; no particular line for a particular booth, just people waiting for one close to them to open up. Luckily some lovely poll worker handed us ballpoint pens and told us we could fill out our ballots wherever. Seriously, if that's the method with which you fill out your ballots in your area, take a black ballpoint pen and fill it out against the wall or something.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3073/3002208905_74af07c222.jpg

No line to speak of here in the Remington neighborhood of Baltimore. There was one Paultard complete with ReLOVEution or whatever t-shirt waiting in line, everybody else was a senior citizen or a Hopkins-ish liberal hipster elitist. I was helped to my polling station by a developmentally disabled pollworker named Willie who was wearing a red felt bowler hat. Scary to use a Diebold machine! Now I'm rocking my I Voted sticker and it feels stupendous!

or a Hopkins-ish liberal hipster elitist

ie, an Obamascist?

whaa? i'm not pumped about obama either but an obamascist wtf

how do you even pronounce it

one of the people coming to my election party tonight voted for mckinney

we're going to make him sit in his own section and then beat him up if obama loses by one vote

how do you even pronounce it

obama cyst

Seriously, if that's the method with which you fill out your ballots in your area, take a black ballpoint pen and fill it out against the wall or something.

How do you submit this ballot? I don't know if I would feel comfortable voting manually like this.

we voted. took the kids, made it a family event. lots of people but almost no line, because they had so many stations. the mood on the upper west side i would characterize as cheerful.

i like new york's old-fashioned voting machines, the way the big red lever goes CLANK. it feels you actually did something.

i was in line behind some yuppies with a tiny baby and they were talking about whole foods and they didn't bring the right proof of address! also they were confused about the ballot measures. they were dumb. i think they were obamascists

wait what's this about ballpoint pens

How do you submit this ballot? I don't know if I would feel comfortable voting manually like this.

You feed it into an optical-scan machine that feels like nothing more than pushing your ballot into a shredder. Doing so this morning made me even more paranoid than the touchscreen machines, like my ballot was about to end up being tossed by vacationgoers leaving the pier on the Pacific Princess.

i used a pencil to connect two broken sections of an arrow :/

i could choose between optical scan and touchscreen, i chose optical scan, plus there was only one touch screen

why xpost

Caption this photo:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/images/2008/11/04/dcvotingbrendansmialowskigetty.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3214/3002230795_2554ef4f3e.jpg

that's how it worked for me, too (I chose the arrow/scanner option)

xxpost

nice patterns!

and I didn't get a fucking sticker wtf, they had little leaflet "recipts"

i've only done the pull the lever thing once, that was the most fun

i've never pulled a lever :(

How do you submit this ballot? I don't know if I would feel comfortable voting manually like this.

this is actually a good system - an optical scanner reads the ballots like scoring a standardized test, which makes for quick & accurate reporting. and the actual ballots are stored as paper backup in case of a recount.

in RI you feed your ballot into the scanner yourself, and if there's a problem with it the scanner reports it immediately.

ned where is that photo taken

oh, dc. sorry

I'm going to go repair the broken arrows now
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2516/65891362wa5.png

I have also never pulled a lever.

I like the touch screens as they give you a pin number generated when they scan you into a laptop so that makes me feel secure. But then I was so paranoid it was going to accidentally turn my Obama touch into a McCain. Ala Homer.

no voting system is perfect, but fwiw the computer science professor who demonstrated how to hack into a touchscreen voting machine in a matter of minutes also recommended the written ballot/optical scan method.

at my polling place in los angeles we had a system that was like hole-punching except we filled in already existing holes with an ink-stamp pen.

http://www.lovehkfilm.com/panasia/aj6293/broken_arrow.jpg

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/images/2008/11/04/dcvotingbrendansmialowskigetty.jpg

"where the titties at?"

http://content9.flixster.com/photo/37/96/65/3796659_tmb.jpg

christian slater's last gasp as a big movie star.

at this normally sleepy voting location by SPU in Seattle, I got there at 7:15am and there was a line. A small one, but it's the first time I've ever seen a line there since 2001 (when I moved here)

This is a sleepy voting location in a relatively sleepy neighborhood in a non battleground state with nothing as urgent as Prop 8. (although there is the governor's race)

good luck usa etc

I am amused by how some enlightened Obama supporters throw around terms like Paultard, not to mention the "disown every McCain voter among yr family/friends" and "Greens are lunatics" sentiments. But remember, only Republicans are hate-filled.

^^^^^

spot the mckinney voter.

meant to say: first time I saw a line there ever, period. (moved here in 2001)

stfu morbius, yr being boring

favorite Dr Morbius primaries thread nickname

i used a pencil to connect two broken sections of an arrow :/

lol dc

i pulled a lever today

nan not mckinney. gloria

morbz go over on the other thread and tell me what you thought of synecdoche, n.y.

oh shiiiiiiiiit my biochem prof just made a palin-is-dumb joke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJcFHsoX4cI

THE CULTURE OF DEATH HAS A GOOD FRIEND IN BARACK OBAMA
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Good comment at Balloon Juice on Ohio vote funnies:

I’m an appointed poll watcher in rural Ohio. Ordinarily, I’m a poll worker.

I’m "roving" because we only have two poll watchers for the whole county.

Not good, so far. I’m frustrated with the poll workers.

They don’t understand the ID requirements and they’re shunting all and sundry to provisional ballots. I’m calling the Bd of Elections and reporting this, and have now done so outside all three precincts I visited.

I knew it was bad, from my experience as a poll worker. I didn’t know it was this bad.

If Republicans insist on initiating elaborate ID rules, can they at least LEARN THEM? Can they APPLY THEM PROPERLY and UNIFORMLY?

I’m going back out. Don’t accept a provisional ballot until you find one person who knows what the hell they’re talking about.

Stand there until you get your questions answered. Don’t capitulate at the first "no". Chances are, the poll worker is wrong.

If it’s close in Ohio, expect litigation.

I have never pulled a lever nor have I ever seen a curtain inside a polling place. The most privacy I've seen is what resembles a podium with blinders on either side.

I miss the old machines with the levers in the former lunchroom of my decommissioned first primary school. They were next to the fallout shelter.

I pulled a lever while I was at HAHVUHD. It was quaint!

I miss the old machines with the levers in the former lunchroom of my decommissioned first primary school. They were next to the fallout shelter.

― Drinking Points Memo (suzy), Tuesday, November 4, 2008 11:22 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm

lol ohio

Obama, McCain missing from some ballots

The lines this morning for Precinct B were a little longer than for Precinct A at the Pleasant Township Hall in Knox County.

One of the precinct's three touch-screen voting machines was out of order for a time because it would only cast ballots for independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader.

"You can use it if you want to vote for him," a poll worker said.

There were no takers.

A board of elections worker reset the machine and it was back in service just before 9:30 a.m.

- Paul Souhrada

they let us have our own election too - i was under the impression my vote counted in the real election

OH SHIT BARACK OBAMA IS ON THE OTHER MOTHERFUCKING SIDE OF THAT MOTHERFUCKING LINE

I remember pulling a lever when I was a kid and went with my parents to vote. They had a plain ballot that they gave to kids and there was a machine just for kids and we could go to town on it.

i pressed a button

i drew a line with a marker to complete an arrow.

lol optical ballot

The right wingers are already going Left Behind on us:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZGMyNjc4NWUxZWE2NDY5Y2E3MzY5MGY0ZDZhNDRjMDU=

He writes of a young political figure from the American midwest, with enormous financial resources, who offers himself as a pacific healer of divisions between Eastern and Western world cultures. Julian Felsenburgh’s rise to power is inexplicable in terms of any accomplishment. He is serenely self-confident, cool to the point of coldness, and capable of reducing crowds to sobbing and fainting by his prepared speeches; he persuades all nations — which had not heard of him until recently — to make him “president” of the world.

Left Behind: it's not just a series of popular books for the batshit insane, it's what happens to every single person who reads them...

Ten Reasons Why You Should Ignore Exit Polls

Oh, let me count the ways. Almost all of this, by the way, is lifted from Mark Bluemthnal's outstanding Exit Poll FAQ. For the long version, see over there.

1. Exit polls have a much larger intrinsic margin for error than regular polls. This is because of what are known as cluster sampling techniques. Exit polls are not conducted at all precincts, but only at some fraction thereof. Although these precincts are selected at random and are supposed to be reflective of their states as a whole, this introduces another opportunity for error to occur (say, for instance, that a particular precinct has been canvassed especially heavily by one of the campaigns). This makes the margins for error somewhere between 50-90% higher than they would be for comparable telephone surveys.

2. Exit polls have consistently overstated the Democratic share of the vote. Many of you will recall this happening in 2004, when leaked exit polls suggested that John Kerry would have a much better day than he actually had. But this phenomenon was hardly unique to 2004. In 2000, for instance, exit polls had Al Gore winning states like Alabama and Georgia (!). If you go back and watch The War Room, you'll find George Stephanopolous and James Carville gloating over exit polls showing Bill Clinton winning states like Indiana and Texas, which of course he did not win.

3. Exit polls were particularly bad in this year's primaries. They overstated Barack Obama's performance by an average of about 7 points.

4. Exit polls challenge the definition of a random sample. Although the exit polls have theoretically established procedures to collect a random sample -- essentially, having the interviewer approach every nth person who leaves the polling place -- in practice this is hard to execute at a busy polling place, particularly when the pollster may be standing many yards away from the polling place itself because of electioneering laws.

5. Democrats may be more likely to participate in exit polls. Related to items #1 and #4 above, Scott Rasmussen has found that Democrats supporters are more likely to agree to participate in exit polls, probably because they are more enthusiastic about this election.

6. Exit polls may have problems calibrating results from early voting. Contrary to the conventional wisdom, exit polls will attempt account for people who voted before election day in most (although not all) states by means of a random telephone sample of such voters. However, this requires the polling firms to guess at the ratio of early voters to regular ones, and sometimes they do not guess correctly. In Florida in 2000, for instance, there was a significant underestimation of the absentee vote, which that year was a substantially Republican vote, leading to an overestimation of Al Gore's share of the vote, and contributing to the infamous miscall of the state.

7. Exit polls may also miss late voters. By "late" voters I mean persons who come to their polling place in the last couple of hours of the day, after the exit polls are out of the field. Although there is no clear consensus about which types of voters tend to vote later rather than earlier, this adds another way in which the sample may be nonrandom, particularly in precincts with long lines or extended voting hours.

8. "Leaked" exit poll results may not be the genuine article. Sometimes, sources like Matt Drudge and Jim Geraghty have gotten their hands on the actual exit polls collected by the network pools. At other times, they may be reporting data from "first-wave" exit polls, which contain extremely small sample sizes and are not calibrated for their demographics. And at other places on the Internet (though likely not from Gergahty and Drudge, who actually have reasonably good track records), you may see numbers that are completely fabricated.

9. A high-turnout election may make demographic weighting difficult. Just as regular, telephone polls are having difficulty this cycle estimating turnout demographics -- will younger voters and minorities show up in greater numbers? -- the same challenges await exit pollsters. Remember, an exit poll is not a definitive record of what happened at the polling place; it is at best a random sampling.

10. You'll know the actual results soon enough anyway. Have patience, my friends, and consider yourselves lucky: in France, it is illegal to conduct a poll of any kind within 48 hours of the election. But exit polls are really more trouble than they're worth, at least as a predictive tool. An independent panel created by CNN in the wake of the Florida disaster in 2000 recommended that the network completely ignore exit polls when calling particular states. I suggest that you do the same.

-- Nate Silver at 9:15 AM 148 Comments...

Obama had another sports encounter Monday when he recognized a familiar face while stopping by a local campaign office in Charlotte, N.C.

"It's M.L. Carr!" Obama exclaimed, clearly excited to spot the former Boston Celtics' star.

"The next president, the next president," said Carr, who lives in Boston but said he was in Charlotte for a visit and heard about Obama's stop.

I just voted in Ithaca, NY. The machine was OLD SCHOOL. I'm pretty sure it was configured for this election by a guy furiously punching holes in index cards in 1952. The mechanism it used was a little lever that you turned clockwise (from 3 o'clock to 6 o'clock) like it was a coin return lever on a soda machine.

OBAMA FEVER!

We fill in ovals completely, with a pen. It is very reminiscent of SAT/ACT/standardized style tests, and thus makes my palms sweat. Also freaks me out that it's a pen that they use and not a #2 pencil. xxxxpost

lol Orange County CA, but I remember pulling levers when voting in O.C. in 1996! The location was at a house in the neighborhood. A few old ladies saying "the ONLY vote is a BOB DOLE vote... OR ELSE."

Seattle has these Cray Computer looking things that suck in your ginormous ballot like it came out of John Carpenter's Dark Star.

I am amused by how some enlightened Obama supporters throw around terms like Paultard, not to mention the "disown every McCain voter among yr family/friends" and "Greens are lunatics" sentiments. But remember, only Republicans are hate-filled.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, November 4, 2008 10:56 AM (44 minutes ago)

http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/gallery/screenshots/lists/news_198.jpg

at work, it's official that not much is going to get done. everyone has election results tickers on their desktops.

But remember, only Republicans are hate-filled.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, November 4, 2008 10:56 AM (44 minutes ago)

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"The only thing I think I'll live to see this country build is one helluva fire." ― Dr Morbius

Bonkers.

"But remember, only Republicans are hate-filled." ― Dr Morbius

You are reaching Corner-levels of incoherency.

I don't if anyone has read at-the-polling-place pieces, but the interviewees on the NYT blog suggest this is "history in the making." Hadn't heard.

You really don't wanna know what clouds I'd be yelling at if HillRod was the nominee and every single one of you chickenshit robots were voting for her.

Loved Paris' "Bush Killa."

No-one did or ever has asked you

here's a shock and surprise Morbs: SOME OF US GENUINELY LIKE HILLARY CLINTON AS A POLITICIAN

cumulonimbus? xxpost

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/04/flogo.jpg

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/funny-pictures-god-bunny-clouds-sky.jpg

Just voted! I really hope New York goes Blue! :P

Loved Paris' "Bush Killa."

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, November 4, 2008 11:51 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hahaha this is my fav morbius post yet

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Alex, what is it about rage-filled Dem partisans don't you don't understand?

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http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/8757/crashandburnzd6.jpg

You really don't wanna know what clouds I'd be yelling at if HillRod was the nominee and every single one of you chickenshit robots were voting for her.

So true. If only had the balls it takes to vote Green. You are my hero.

(btw I think raggin on someone for voting Green--or voting any way that isn't the way you vote--is juvenile and douchey)

"Alex, what is it about rage-filled Dem partisans don't you don't understand?"

Do you still believe in the boogeyman too?

lol eman

no, Granny Dainger, if I had balls I wouldn't have voted at all in this fucking charade.

Chickenshit robots. I like it.

chickenshit robot charades

no rage here kemosabe. enjoy your life, man, it's all right.

I voted! 25 minute line! Hooray! I feel smug.

Sometimes the only winning move is not to play.

If only we could apply the wisdom of Matthew Broderick vehicles to every facet of life.

I wrote in Dr Morbius.

My simple thought on voting
from Marginal Revolution
by Tyler Cowen

Most of what you do is for expressive value anyway, so you shouldn't feel guilty about voting, if indeed you vote. The people who think they are being instrumentally rational by not voting are probably deceiving themselves more. They are actually engaged in an even less transparent form of expressive behavior (protest against the voting system) and yet cloaking that behavior under the guise of instrumental rationality. The best arguments against voting are simply if you either don't like voting or if you don't know which candidate is better. High-status people hardly ever offer the latter justification, even though the split of opinions among high-status people suggests that not all high-status people can in fact know which candidate is better.

In other words, both voting and not voting are motivated by the thought that you are better than other people. I am glad that we have an entire day devoted to this very important concept. However, if I had balls I wouldn't have voted at all in this fucking charade.

this election was way more Jumanji than WarGames

from last night's rally:

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7150/2lvjolgsa3.png

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/6443/c85a7512639dace364eab38jm1.jpg

and getcher lolz in whilst ye may:

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6118/98722665ww3.jpg

Alex, what is it about rage-filled Dem partisans don't you don't understand?

why they are funnier than rage-filled repub partisans

at this point I wish CNN would give paul begala and bay buchanan a pair of boxcutters and toss them naked into a muddy pit, hopefully neither of them would make it out alive

that would be a change I could believe in

If only we could apply the wisdom of Matthew Broderick vehicles to every facet of life.

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, November 4, 2008 9:06 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

LOL

at this point I wish CNN would give paul begala and bay buchanan a pair of boxcutters and toss them naked into a muddy pit, hopefully neither of them would make it out alive

^^^^

I just want to post this again:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/RepublicansoftheDamned.jpg

http://media.hoover.org/images/sarah_palin.jpg

Palin Power... Palin for President... Palin... Promise... Progress... Peanut...

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6118/98722665ww3.jpg
get that thing away from me you cunt!

^^ unfuckingbelievable picture

also, I don't want to live in a world where you can't rib friends who vote green party

I also want to post this one, where Palin doesn't even know what animal is supposed to represent her own fucking party:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/Palinvotescarf.jpg

Can somebody repost the "dude is STOKED to meet obama" pic from the last thread? That pic makes me happy.

Also, here are some more:

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/3540/222401lc9.jpg
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/5574/w9ieztcm2.png
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/4324/99401715hs6.jpg

I make no apologies for using the words "Palin" and "fucking party" in the same sentence

I also want to post this one, where Palin doesn't even know what animal is supposed to represent her own fucking party:

She thought they were cuet horsies.

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/5575/t1homepalin3giddke8.jpg

uh oh i broke the dam of palin pics didn't i

Go work on that "Alaska tan" honey

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Que & n/a, who DID you think I was gonna vote for?? I held my nose for O in the primary.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, November 4, 2008 10:03 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i have to ask you a question, morbius. why did you vote in the primary?!! do you just really, really hate hillary clinton?

yep.

fucking right-wing "pro-war" (actually, she doesn't care) Marie Antoinette

Results 1 - 10 of about 126,000 for "the politics of hate". (0.17 seconds)

Reds vs Blues John, choose!

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i'm pretty much with morbs on this particular. she's the pits.

but i uh would have voted for her in the GE against McCain. it's not a perfect system, but i'm not about to throw away my vote this go round.

Biden's going to be great and I'll be disappointed if he doesn't get indicted.

what kind of rinky dink voting business is that. plastic buckets??

xps

ok that's cool, i just found in genuinely curious you'd go out of your way to vote in a primary election for a candidate you dislike. it is odd to me that, if you despise hillary that much, that you wouldn't also have the same vitriol towards mccain-palin? tho maybe you do but as you said upthread, the margin in ny is going to be so insane you could've written in "sock puppet" and it wouldn't have mattered.

Our university will have emergency resources at the ready tonight in case there is an "emotional reaction" to the election results.

Oh, the campaign fun that could have been had soundtracking the ho-ho antics of McCain to the Benny Hill theme.

Digressing into a fashion moment for a sec, but CMcC in her matchy-matchy heiress-wear is totally de low-renta. There was some scary red Escada two-piece that was giving me nightmares after I saw it on the news last night.

Alaska tan? Tracer, that's some icky make-up. $22k a week for stylin' Palin and STILL a demarcated jawline.

biden needs to get indicted for something like placing bets on judicial appointments

suzy that's what i meant by alaska tan!

hence the quotes, which i would have done with my fingers had you been present here in front of me

you got it schef, I expect nothing from McCain-Palin so I reserve my vitriol who theoretically are supposed to deliver.

Also, I don't particularly dislike Obama; he's just too much like all the other prez candidates I haven't voted for, either.

(and the primary vote was in Feb, before FISA, Biden, bailout)

well i guess it is time to vote!

morbs who should i vote for? i'm in MN so it don't really matter

AP: McCain casts ballot in Phoenix, gives thumbs-up

10 yearolds think "vitriol" is a cool word, just saying

I don't tell ppl who to vote for. Your mileage may vary.

In MN I might even hold my nose and vote for the guy who wrote a Meg Ryan movie.

(schef chose "vitriol," she will slap you silly)

Biden will get indicted for ribaldry, I hope.

Please vote for whoever you want to vote for, regardless of whether your vote really "counts" or not. A large margin of victory, state-wide and nation-wide, is important.

why?

how can anyone think votes don't count after 2000?

10 yearolds think "vitriol" is a cool word, just saying

― Niles Caulder, Tuesday, November 4, 2008 12:35 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and assholes say things like this or that whole "UM y'all forgot about one thing which is bill clinton" exchange above, so i'm really unconcerned about your opinion of my and morb's choice of words.

regardless of oh, whether they actually get to be counted

xpost because of mandate from the people type shit, morbs.

vitriol IS a cool word. 10 year olds can be correct!

CNN calls it for Gloria La Riva

http://ronwade.freeservers.com/EagleOvalLaRiva.jpg

Props to La Riva for running, but her button looks like caked Pepto Bismol with a stamp on it.

I don't think anyone's forgotten about him, I just remember people being excited then like "oh man he isn't all that" etc.

xpost yeah it kinda is, if you're an ANGRY person

xpost

People should vote for the person that they think will do the best job. I have no beef with Green Party voters. They gotta do their thing, and I respect them for voting their conscience. I call Paultards Paultards because I'm in the tank for Obama, but I would also call libtards libtards if that clarifies. Using any of this corny web lingo just means that you're a sad Wonkette reading KoolAid drinker, which I am. In my case the smug liberal elitist shoe fits. Nuff said.

how can anyone think votes don't count after 2000?

because I voted for Nader in NY in 2000, and Gore won the state by X million, and I really doubt that while the Repubs were stealing the election in Florida over the following month, their thugs were saying "Don't forget the sizable Gore victory in New York."

The mandate stuff is hype, I've always thought -- but what would BE Obama's mandate? to be awesome?
Didn't Bush get his first-term mandate from Al Qaeda?

I saw Gerry Ferraro for a minute on O'REILLY last night, reassuringly opining that O will govern from "the center" as opposed to like a left-wing radical -- "like Reid and Pelosi," as Poppa Bear put it.

good post pygmy

Anyone who expects the President of the world's hegemon to be anything further to the left of Obama is delusional and destined for a life of bitterness and disappointment. When has the United States ever had a "radical" President?? It would be like hiring Barry Bonds as a public relations manager.

In other words, both voting and not voting are motivated by the thought that you are better than other people.

This guy can go fuck himself (largely because I'm really fuckin' tired of the "thinking you're better than other people" trope).

This Obama better not get too left meme is some tired ass shit already. Seriously STFU people.

Alex plz 2 explain who is saying this

besides Cokie Roberts

Anyone who expects the President of the world's hegemon to be anything further to the left of Obama is delusional and destined for a life of bitterness and disappointment.

OTM.

you're so much better than him

xps

tracer it's everywhere!!

http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/?last_story=/opinion/walsh/election_2008/2008/11/04/evans_pritchard/

Plenty of juicy quotes here.

Didn't Bush get his first-term mandate from Al Qaeda?

you make the mandate argument perfectly; bush squeaked into office and wouldn't have been able to pull half the shit he did without the cover of wartime impunity

MORNING HOE

you're so much better than him

The fact that I didn't write that smug crap gives me a leg up, yes.

god dam this thread is going to suck hard if its 12 hours of talking about dr morbius voting habits

seriously^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

max we'd almost just broken free!

live by example!!

THE POWER IS IN YOUR HANDS, POSTER

problem is theres no news until returns

Can we have some uplifting saccharine 'a la urne' stories then?

god dam this thread is going to suck hard if its 12 hours of talking about dr morbius voting habits

could not agree more

post awesome pictures of people waiting in line to vote, then

It's not Morbius's fault you guys are so hate-filled.

more voter breakdowns for tiny towns in New Hampshire please!

I am drinking red spritz to symbolise the draining of red from electoral maps.

where is gr8080 with picture posts when we need him most?

Tracer, the fatal flaw is your equation of "anything further to the left of Obama" and "radical." On health care, HillRod is to the left of Obama, for Studs' sake.

If Ted Kennedy had been ever been elected -- say when he lost the nom to Carter in '80, just for argument's sake -- would he have been left of O? I think so.

However, I do not "expect" a prez to be left, or anything else.

Hope for the best, expect the worst,
Some drink champagne, some die of thirst,
No way of knowing
Which way it’s going,
Hope for the best, expect the worst!

Hope for the best, expect the worst,
The world’s a stage, we’re unrehearsed,
Some reach the top, friends,While others drop, friends,
Hope for the best, expect the worst!

I knew a man who made a fortune that was splendid
Then he died the day he’d planned to go and spend it
Shouting “Live while you’re alive! No one will survive!”
Life is sorrow — here today and gone tomorrow.
Live while you’re alive, no one will survive –There’s no guarantee.

Hope for the best, expect the worst,
You could be Tolstoy or Fanny Hurst.
You take your chances, There are no answers,
Hope for the best expect the worst!

Phone banking I believe.

Xpost

god dam this thread is going to suck hard if its 12 hours of talking about dr morbius voting habits

This is why we need to talk about pork chops until polls start closing.

its 7am where grady is, hes probably banging his asian bf

http://www.indielondon.co.uk/images/10667.jpg

Dr. Morbius, yesterday

no one knows who that is tracer

PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT THE VOTING PATTERNS/BELIEFS OF ONE DOCTOR WOODROW ALLOWICIUS MORBIOUS, ESQ

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a188/BEASTMARIO/dont_forget_to_vote_magnet.jpg

ugh see you all made me misspell Morbius

Tracer,I don't have images on but I sincerely hope that it is a picture of the 1977 gurning world champion.

btw i just voted for a muslim, a fake muslim, and a pervert.....in under ten minutes!

also voted for one Dr Morbius for state sanitation supervisor or something

If Obama "governs from the center," I cannot wait to see you in-the-tankers "hold his feet to the fire." The Cubs will definitely win a Series before that shit happens.

max, I hate to break it to you, but posts citing Salon and The Corner suck infinitely harder than breaking down my voting habits.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20081104/capt.cps.ocm46.041108121615.photo01.photo.default-512x340.jpg

http://www.nytimes.com/images/blogs/freakonomics/posts/Wecan.jpg

^^ Black Panthers!!

ok enough morbs

http://www.vianegativa.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/goose-girl.jpg

http://bp2.blogger.com/_WQuCzXGJ2Pc/RlMQusCTOVI/AAAAAAAAAGA/5AOOwCRtNgs/s320/fantasia1.jpg

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/6426/mccsilsj1.jpg

http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/03/political-pictures-levi-johnston-bristol-palin-shotgun/

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/political-pictures-barack-obama-ryan-seacrest.jpg

I think this is a great preview of what we're in for if he gets elected - epecially at 4:35-6:00.

I'm hoping that when they say "black panthers" they mean actual large ebony felines

I'm just warning everyone now that every person I see from here on out who uses the phrase "in the tank" is going to get a temp ban. I'm not even joking.

"If Obama "governs from the center," I cannot wait to see you in-the-tankers "hold his feet to the fire.""

Can Morbius just get his own thread to spout his bullshit?

Final FiveThirtyEight projections:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/todays-polls-and-final-election.html

To clarify, Alex gets a pass because of xposting but now even quoting that shit will get you booted for the day.

http://bitsblog.florack.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/dukakis_tank.jpg

hey where is mike dukakis in this picture?

^damn, watching that, O seems like a peer - my college was having PC sit-in ructions that were also written up in the NYT kind of around the same time.

Dan, no tankers here.

yay Gbx, that's exactly how I voted too apart from no sani option on the MN-5 absentee ballot. I <3 Keith Ellison.

ED! Please send me G00blarfone, heading over there later for party funtime.

The polls in portions of Indiana and Kentucky have already closed here in GMT.

That is how time zones work, right?

Just for that I am going to eat dinner in paradiso perduto and get naughtily drunk in bar rosso.

Greenwald, on the case already:

It's incredible how rapidly that sentiment has ossified as conventional wisdom. In The New Republic today, John Judis decrees who should be in Obama's cabinet, and begins with the premise that "Obama has to realize that he faces some issues where he will need bipartisan support" and thus urges him to "co-opt[] Republicans to fill controversial cabinet and regulatory positions." He thus repeats the conventional wisdom that Obama should keep Bush DoD Secretary Robert Gates (or replace him with Chuck Hagel -- or make Hagel U.N. Ambassador); pick Arnold Schwarzenegger or Olympia Snowe to run the EPA; and he even longs for a world in which Obama could choose Mitt Romney -- Mitt Romney -- to oversee Obama's health care initiative.

The few Democrats about whom Judis dreams are, as he puts it, "veterans of Clinton's second term" -- people like Larry Summers and Richard Holbrooke. He even ponders the possibility that Condoleezza Rice (who he says "has done pretty well in the last two years") might stay on as Secretary of State -- were it not for the small fact that "she is a Bush loyalist."

Obama hasn't even won yet, and already the standard cast of Beltway status-quo-perpetuators are demanding that he scorn his base, stay as far away from "liberals" as possible, and fill his cabinet with old Clinton establishment retreads and even Bush administration appointees. In other words, the only way that Democrats can be successful is if they look as much like Republicans as possible -- the same sorry advice Democrats have been following (and failing with) for decades.

lol are you sure you are on the right thread, Ed

voting irregularities:

http://www.typography.com/ask/showBlog.php?blogID=151
http://www.typography.com/images/blogImages/election-typecuts.jpg

Just about.

Suzy:

I'll numero di G00blar non Ce l'ho.

I have no idea why as I have called him by electric telephone before.

HI DERE engineers revival of "drank the Kool-Aid"!

I am assigning Alex in SF to chain himself to the White House fence if Bob Gates is reappointed...

who holds record for "longest poll line wait" so far? i got 2 HOURS

under 10 minutes!

hey i heard that dr morbius voted today

eat dinner in paradiso perduto

Just don't the apples anymore, ok?

Someone should post that famous photo of Dukakis sitting in a tank. But not me. No, sir.

the poll line by my house was so long, I decided to go to work and try again later. I'll be heading back there this afternoon.

Will talking about ending up in the drunk tank end up in a ban? I have a feeling there's going to be a lot of ilxor drinking going on today.

i only took about 45 minutes

thanks to early voting, lines have averaged about 30 minutes to an hour in Florida (a student reported yesterday that she waited five hours on Sunday afternoon).

imna go get some ice cream now

you all just want to see a black man cry

the lines for two other districts in my precinct were insane, like wrapping around the school kinda shit (i saw someone i knew in the long line!) but my district apparently consists of ten old black dudes, a grumpy old lady who kept wandering off, and me so it was pretty quick!

i love the idea of early voters waiting in line for 4 hours as a sacrifice for the rest of the voting populace

"I am assigning Alex in SF to chain himself to the White House fence if Bob Gates is reappointed..."

You are a moron.

I had two people in line in front of me.

And once again, no I Voted! stickers.

yeah i did not get a sticker either. my coworker told me that her precinct in greenpoint HAD stickers but the lady refused to give any to anyone??

In her defense, maybe she was scrapbooking later.

gf just kicked me in the tank

/baits HI DERE

I waited in line about 90 minutes. I got there 20 minutes after they opened, but the line didn't move an inch for the first half hour, then finally got going to the point that when I left, the line was much shorter than it was when I arrived.

the FAPs are def gonna be smaller on my next San Francisco trip.

What the hell are these stickers? no purple dye for your thumb?

my sticker fell off while i was eating a bagel :(

http://southdakotapolitics.blogs.com/south_dakota_politics/images/iraq_const.jpg

"the FAPs are def gonna be smaller on my next San Francisco trip."

Why? Because you wouldn't spout this kind of bullshit to my face Morbs? It's easier to make assumptions/generalizations about people when they aren't looking you in the eyes, ain't it?

SHUT THE FUCK UP

I saw a teenage neighbor there this morning who was casting her first vote ever. She was so excited, it was so sweet.

there was some 70-ish guy in front of me in line voting for the first time!

i waited 30 minutes

this was my 1st presidential election (but I voted 2 weeks ago)

My first was 1992, I just missed 1988 by a few months.

It's nice to have a few candidates one can be excited about. My local Oregon ballot has several attractive candidates for a change. It's like the extra large badness of Bush has convinced more good, solid people into politics to counteract it.

The wonderfully unscientific Facebook total sez more than 2,200,000 folks on there have voted so far.

My wait was only ten minutes, but that was long enough for "(We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove Thang" to come up on my iPod in shuffle mode.

First time I voted was on my birthday! I voted for Mel Carnahan for governor.

ED! haha spelling irregularities in TWO languages j/k, I don't know why you don't have the number either, will Kate? If you are going to have fake revenge dining at my favourite dive in Venice all because I'm going to a party you can't attend due to being there instead, A WAG OF THE FINGER to you. You are also vulnerable to being sent to a cheese store for Parmesan reinforcements on the cheap, I really need some.

(Dan, Ed is in Venice con spriss trying to find half-decent wireless reception to view the election he thought he wanted to escape from and it's kind of famous for being a bit analogue in that department. Also I am territorial about Venice, grrrr grrrr)

what are you talking about

how many good luck usas we got now? five?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/mccain_mickey.jpg

good luck usa!

represent

altho we may be different we still feel the same

holla holla

the lines for two other districts in my precinct were insane, like wrapping around the school kinda shit (i saw someone i knew in the long line!) but my district apparently consists of ten old black dudes italian ladies, a grumpy old lady who kept wandering off, and me so it was pretty quick!

this was my experience also. and i didn't get a sticker either

yeah but what was the experience like for dr morbius. did he get a sticker?

There were lines pre-7am at every polling place I ran by this morning (I dropped off my absentee ballot at City Hall and got a sticker!) Lots of No on Prop 8 folks out too on street corners.

The school gym was so crowded it took me 3 tries to find the end of the line for my district.

also, I know it's the internet, but I really do not want to fight bitterly about politics here. I apologize if I've gone over the line today and will attempt to rein in whatever rhetorical excesses I still have control over.

no sticker for me.

likewise. tho that won't stop you from getting free starbucks or krispy kreme or sex toys, if yr so inclined

I hope you are happy now, you all broke dr. morbius

no, it was the Nixon pardon that broke me.

:)

the pardon that broke the camel's back

It really is odd how you have to wait in line to vote, in America. You don't really do that in England.

we like lines over here

in england pandemonium rules

we like lines over here

― good luck usa (Mr. Queue), Tuesday, November 4, 2008 2:27 PM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I thought the english were all about the queue

In England they gaggle, then go over cliffs like lemmings.

waiting in lines gets us good and frustrated so when we pull out our guns and shoot people it's extra satisfying

good luck usa

i eagerly anticipate WEDNESDAY, DAY OF PEACE

let's make it happen

yes but you have to wait for like 9 years to see your GOVERNMENT DOCTOR so it all evens out amirite

It's already going around everywhere as one of the heartstring-tuggers of the day -- worth a read:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/eastside93/2008/11/i-didnt-vote-for-obama-today.php

good luck usa

Each British person is a queue of one.

yeah that is aww <3 <3 <3 supreme

um xp

OMG TWIST ENDING!

hi guys! Reporting in from Pennsyltucky.

http://thedryspot.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/paulharvey2.jpg

they still work, but I'll be happy to see the "I changed my mind about Obama today (...I decided I SUPER DUPER liked him!!)" switcheroo Kos diaries come to end.

after reading that cornball TPM post, i need some more Dr Morbius.

It's already going around everywhere as one of the heartstring-tuggers of the day -- worth a read

Aw cute! I wonder if the voter folk would've let one of my cats press the button.

P.S. I voted for my man Morbs.

Morbs took down that one thing hardcore, dang.

P.S. I voted for my mom Morbs

Morbs is yr mom????

i voted peace & freedom in 96

A non-soppy story:

http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=13270

sorry, all of these stories are soppy by definition

I wonder if that widdle tyke in da stawy will grow up to stump for Joe Lieberman.

(had to, had to)

x-post -- Hmm, you have a point.

here's another cool story i heard about

midnite munchies

Freedom isn't Free a lot of American soldiers over the course of over 200 years have fought and died for that Freedom to have it recklessly voted away in an election by uniformed voters, to risk Capitalism for Socialism or even Communism.

A vote for Barack Hussein Obama is a vote for the enemy soldier who killed one of those American soldiers who died for that Freedom over the course of 200 years.

Karl Marx believed that socialism represents the transition between capitalism and communism.

Barack Hussein Obama said in his book 'Audacity of Hope', “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction what better place for the Muslims to control our country, than in the office of the President of USA.”

May God protect the American People and the Free World from the Democrat Party and Barack Hussein Obama.

Karl Marx believed that cream cheese represents the transition between bagels and lox.

A little after the fact, but another reason for voting for Obama.

oh shit, if only i had seen that before going into the booth and pulling the lever for mccain :\

And now, a word from Passenger 57...

great story. i lol'd at the one guy's "peace" sign.

Just got off the phone with my mom. As suspected, she and dad ended up voting for McCain in Missouri. She also mentioned that she voted no across the board on all propositions except for "the one on energy", (The proposition mandates 15% of electricity from renewable sources, I believe). Taking a quick look at the propositions up in St. Louis county, that means she voted no on a measure to provide (sorely needed) $80 million funding for Metrolink. Goddammit mom. At least she got it half right for once.

Plz to let this be the last we ever hear of this fucking bag of douche:

Toledo officers meet Joe the Plumber in speed stop

TOLEDO, Ohio -- A Toledo police report says the northwest Ohio man known as "Joe the Plumber" was pulled over for speeding but let off with a warning because officers worried that issuing a ticket would reflect negatively on the city's police department.

The report says officers tracked Samuel J. Wurzelbacher driving about 50 mph in a 35 mph zone last Wednesday.

Wurzelbacher was referred to as Joe the Plumber repeatedly in the final presidential debate.

Toledo's police chief said last Tuesday that a department clerk faces a disciplinary hearing for allegedly looking up Wurzelbacher's address on a state computer database.

The police report says Wurzelbacher was given a warning because of that investigation and because a citation could have "negative repercussions to the department and city."

Man you'd think Random House could have afforded a better editor for that book.

for reference

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/11/01/pollclosingtimes.gif

Today's Guardian centrefold even has a part where score can be kept.

Tracer, I'm fired up and ready to go...to this party. When are y'all heading over?

(Book quote is a deliberate lie BTW).

so, whatcha drinking tonight?

I will probably alternate between coffee and guinness

I am providing Bison Grass vodka to my hosts. We'll see what happens from there.

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http://www.patrickmoberg.com/november-4-2008.jpg

what's up with shrunken-head Tyler

you didn't miss much Tom, unless you went McKinney

So, no exit poll leaks? Or more importantly - turnout predictions?

Why for white people have white hair? Why for Obama wear a white tie?

I will probably alternate between coffee and guinness

Your bowels must be incredible!

mcain can do it never trust the poles !!!!!!

At the end of our phonecall my mom stated, "I've decided to never talk about politics with you or your sister again", overlooking the fact that we have NEVER ONCE TALKED ABOUT POLIICS.

OK that means your sis must be hammering her.

Your bowels must be incredible!

they are the stuff of legends

Why is Eisenhower out of place?

Who the hell is that supposed to be where Wilson is?

Why does Johnson look so weird?

yeah, that's not Wilson to Taft's right.

its 7am where grady is, hes probably banging his asian bf

― Uncle Shavedlongcock (max), Tuesday, November 4, 2008 8:13 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

actually it was 8am and i was in a yoga class.

just got off a conf call and now i'm gonna walk my dog to the elem. school down the hill to vote. (right down the street from where O's grandma lived :-/ )

hawaii has a state holiday (no school) today! i didn't know this till today-- how many other states do this?? even for ppl who aren't in school/don't have kids it clears up traffic a lot.

btw this will be my first non-nader GE vote and my 4th Obama vote (including primaries)

the fact that election day isn't a national holiday is pretty stupid imo

why gr80, I didn't know you were a recovering Naderer. We need to talk, bro.

I just saw Matt Gonzalez, Nadar's running mate, at the Bean Bag on Divisadero about 5 minutes ago. He didn't look that confident.

Based on the number of people at my polling station, volunteers on the street, and the energy and involvement of people across the city I think DC has a pretty decent chance of going for Obama!

err Nader

nader just conceded

the fact that election day isn't a national holiday is pretty stupid imo

Was just discussing this with a friend. Seriously thinking of starting a campaign - the current state of affairs is a poll-tax in disguise but no flagwrapped douche could possibly object publicly to something so civic-minded, right?

The election day in the US is not a national holiday, even though it might take you 4 hours to queue at the voting site?! No wonder the voter turnout is so low. Why doesn't USA have elections on Sunday? All the elections in here are on Sundays. Or maybe something just should be done with the queues - how is it possible that one might have to wait more than half an hour to vote? What about pensionsers with weak bladders, or people with kids? It seems like the election could be better organized in there.

lol Ralph Nadar

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews24/a%20this%20island%20earth%20Faith%20Domergue/sub%20this%20island%20earth%20THIS_ISLAND_EARTH-4.jpg

you're right, Tuomas, what about pensioners with weak bladders.

you said it man

You can do mail voting.

conspiracy in favour of soccer-moms, i expect.

i was totally for nader back in 2000, though i was too young to vote by a month. then i had an unpleasant experience with a british communist on a message board, and everything changed.

"It seems like the election could be better organized in there."

^^^ uh yeah.

we have holidays for some dumb spanish explorer, we could at least have one for election day. i don't even know why more companies don't take it upon themselves to give their employees the day off, the closest i've ever got to that was, "take your time coming in today".

You can do mail voting.

Okay, that's nice. Does everyone have this option?

Why doesn't USA have elections on Sunday?

Dude, there are still places here where you can't buy beer on Sundays.

we shd actually cancel columbus day and have election day off, but italians would get mad

you have the right to be away from work to vote but wouldn't you know it some managers are not nice about that!!

^^^

My workplace allows two hours off as needed for voting if there's no easy way to do so otherwise. Handy, but I've never needed it. (At least before tonight, but we'll see...)

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/04/1635579.aspx

tuomas we have elections on tuesday because it gives farmers enough time to get to their nearest polling place after going to church on sunday and still get back in time for market day on wednesday duuuuuuuh i mean hello i bet you guys just elect the king of finland with a pollthread or something gay like that

Election Day is a legal holiday in some states, including Delaware, Hawaii, Kentucky, Montana, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, and West Virginia. Some other states have laws that allow workers to take time off from employment without reprisal, and often without loss in pay. California law simply states employees must be allowed to vote, but since voting can be done before or after working hours no time off or pay is offered by many employers. Democratic Representative John Conyers of Michigan recently introduced a bill in the House of Representatives that would make Election Day a national holiday called Democracy Day.

Plus the right to be away from work means you can't be disciplined for absence, but certainly doesn't mean you'll get paid for the hours you were awat. It's precisely in the poorest (and least well-staffed) precincts that this matters most.

tuomas we have church on sunday

gooooooo Conyers

"called Democracy Day."

way to fuck that up. hello next 4 years!

i guess early voting in CO has made voting WAY less hectic today

I drove by the polling location at the botanic gardens on the way to work this morning - they had ropes set up to form the queues outside, BUT NO ONE WAS IN LINE

also my sis works at a polling location and says its been surprisingly dead

http://www.patrickmoberg.com/november-4-2008.jpg

― my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Tuesday, November 4, 2008 3:17 PM (24 minutes ago)

http://splicd.com/kxxLA7Z2QbA/176/194

It seems like the election could be better organized in there.

Hell, we still have the Electoral fucking College, a fucking holdover from slavery designed to give the slaveholding states more power.

there was totally no line at my polling spot around noon
I lost my sticker already. it's like my vote didn't even count!!

tuomas we have church on sunday

But you don't spend 8 hours in the church, do you? Or are there some weird Christian regulations that say you can't vote on a Sunday?

yes we DO spend 8 hours in church what kind of country do you think this is

there are weird christian regulations for everything here, you can't even cross state lines while holding a chicken

that doesn't seem christian but trust me, it is

Tuomas, does shomer shabbos mean nothing to you?

tuomas we all vote with the blood of chickens

ok i know you guys are being sarcastic with tuomas but the genuine answer is that, yes, for some people, there are "weird" regulations about what you can't do on a sunday. see also: saturday.

Tim Robbins brings the muthafuckin ruckus.

Tracer, I met your sister while I was voting!

A uniform date for choosing presidential Electors was instituted by the Congress in 1845.[4] Many theories have been advanced as to why the Congress settled on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November.[5] The actual reasons, as shown in records of Congressional debate on the bill in December 1844, were fairly prosaic. The bill initially set the national day for choosing presidential Electors on "the first Tuesday in November," in years divisible by four (1848, 1852, etc.). But it was pointed out that in some years the period between the first Tuesday in November and the first Wednesday in December (when the Electoral College met) would be more than 34 days, in violation of the existing Electoral College law. So, the bill was amended to move the national date for choosing presidential Electors forward to the Tuesday after the first Monday in November, a date scheme already used in the state of New York.[6]

Tuesday was chosen as, in 1845, the United States was a predominantly agrarian society. Most people traveled by horse and buggy. Farmers needed a day to get to the county seat, a day to vote, and a day to get back, without interfering with the Sabbath. So that left Tuesday and Wednesday and, as Wednesday was market day, Tuesday was chosen.[7]

That was a serious question. I mean, the reason your elections aren't on Sunday must be consideration for religious voters, right?

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those actually aren't the presidents' pics up there, just talking heads from The NewsHour

Hell, we still have the Electoral fucking College, a fucking holdover from slavery designed to give the slaveholding states more power.

― Sara Sara Sara, Tuesday, November 4, 2008 2:50 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

What the hell does that even mean?

Okay, thanks for that post Dan, I guess that explains it.

Election Day is a legal holiday in some states, including Delaware, Hawaii, Kentucky, Montana, New Jersey, New York, Ohio

Uhhhh I would have noticed if there was a legal holiday going on in Ohio today, which there is not.

tuomas, yes. neither weekend day is appropriate to various religious groups throughout america. hence middle of the week weirdness.

xpost whoops explained elsewhere

Tuomas also you have to sing the five verse "Voting Carol" before entering the booth and voting

i've never had to sing it, they usually just pipe in the voting carol on a loop from somewhere

dudes sorry to be like this but i was canvassing all morning what's it look like so far???

we should make the jesus people get over it though, like finland does

if you have a current utility bill and a copy of your birth certificate (but NOT a passport, important) you can petition to have the standard marian anderson recording played, in absentia, from the library of congress.

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matt have you ever heard the story of the blind men and the elephant

if you have a current utility bill and a copy of your birth certificate (but NOT a passport, important) you can petition to have the standard marian anderson recording played, in absentia, from the library of congress.

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― goole, Tuesday, November 4, 2008 4:02 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^ this is an urban legend

tuomas, yes. neither weekend day is appropriate to various religious groups throughout america. hence middle of the week weirdness.

I guess it's a bit weird that voting day in Finland is Sunday then, even though it is a much more secular nation. There must a handful of people in here too who think voting on Sunday is a sin. I guess whoever decided the day thought that giving working people a better chance to vote was more important than hardcore Christians.