Someone explain *ahem* Bangbus to me.

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Ok, I know it's porn and I know that it's the vilest most misogynist degrading porn out there but please, lets ignore that and get to the root of it - is this fucking real?!

I mean, it's obvious that some of the girls are fake but some others are either incredible actresses or they really are naive enough to let these guys do, umm, unspeakable acts to them. ILE probably probably isn't the finest forum to discuss this on (what with it being rife with right-on studes and dogmatic ascetics) but it's possibly the only place where I can get an informed answer. If you're thinking of flipping this thread into a discussion on 'Is Porn evil?' then please start a new post. (if you don't know what Bangbus is then I recommend that you keep it that way, it has caused no end of guilt and self-analysis in this little boy).

Bert, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"We find babes on the street and bang them in our bus", for the curious.

Tom, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Is Bert evil?

mark s, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hahaha a quick look at the work database shows 316,000 European visitors last month, staying for an average of 1m 51s which says volumes for male "staying power". (1.4 million visitors in the US, 570,000 of whom are doing it FROM WORK blimey).

Tom, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh! I thought Bert had misspelt 'Bagpuss'

alix, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I wonder how many times this thread will be googled.

bnw, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm Evil. I have to admit, some of it makes me a little uncomfortable and some of the overly instructiveness (alot of it) i could do without, but my thoughts exactly, that most of these people are really good actors, but you must admit in all walks of life there are people that are this naive,and some of them might actually be adventurous enough to do these things of thier own volition, if you don't or can't admit these things to yourself, then I think you are being just as naive. I think it's probably a combination of the two (actors and real situations), but I've had discussions about it and I am very curious to know as well.

Deadman, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Deadman, exactly! Some of them do seem treat as a bit of 'wild fun' (for, erm, example see Reagan...) but how do they get away with selling these videos? Surely there needs to be contracts written up, waivers signed, etc etc. Also, if anyone fancies helping me in justifying my enjoyment of this particular vein of porn then I'm all eyes..

Bert, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, I think the contractual obligation is the only catch, hence they become a little less believable on the whole.

Deadman, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

why is "real" sex more "sexy" than "acted" sex? (eg if in real life you had an affair but tried to weasel out of it by saying yes yes you did fuck him/her/it but it's ok because you were only pretending, i imagine this would not get you far: but in porn it is hotter that it not be pretended?)

mark s, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This - not that I can look at work - seems like an authenticity double-back though, i.e. the scenario ("2 guys ride around in bus, pick up girls and have exceptionally dirty sex with them") is totally bogus readers-letters porno but in this case is apparently really happening. So the arousal isn't the idea of a peep into 'real' sex, but in the idea that with this stuff 'porn' is coming 'true' (though remaining porn).

Tom, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

could this happen to anyone who gets themselves a bus?

DV, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Don't think so: I haven't seen anybody shagging on the 94 of late.

RickyT, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've been having the devil's own time finding a van to hire this weekend and maybe this is why.

Tom, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

is that why all the 38s are now painted gold?

(blimey there was a terrific row on my bus to work this morning: "I am the bus conductor! Do not tell me what I know!")

mark s, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Are the ladies supposed to be attracted to the shiny bus? Perhaps that was why the conductor was so angry. All the effort he went to get his vehicle painted in the colour that he supposed would make his bangbus fantasies come true was for naught, there being no more offers of wild sex now than when his bus was painted a more mundane red. Hence his newly redoubled sexual frustration bubbling over in shoutiness towards his sadly not-up-for-it passengers.

RickyT, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Having Judi Dench as a regular passenger has spoilt him, perhaps.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

no body rides for free. (I'm so sorry)

jel --, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Being a pornography connoisseur, I have to say the BangBus is completely fake. Reagan is an amateur porn star, she is featured on numerous sites. cumfiesta, amateur plugin, busty amateurs...etc. It is a awfully degrading website though, good god. I love my porno, but this is too much.

The Guru, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I also meant to say that all of these girls are featured on the above sites as well. To me it seems these sites are all run by the same company as they all have similar ideas. See mikesapartment.com for examples. Girls fuck for rent? Come on, no one is that hard up.

The"Porno" Guru, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

heh heh, he said "hard"

what exactly is so vile about BB that it provokes guilt and self-analysis? just, ahem, wondering....

Tracer Hand, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Where have you guys been? Bangbus has been my mode of transportation to work and back for YEARS! I understand how many of you may not know how everything is done in the States, but come on!...

...up into my Bangbus, that is. I'll give you gold, jewelry, a trip around the world... I promise.

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think you're a stinky liar.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"the first step towards achieving coolness is spreading your ass"

I always knew I was doing something right.

The Original Queen G, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Heh... so of course, a lil' Bangbus.com navigation would inevitably lead to this charming little gem: Baitbus.com -- oh.. my

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

100% class brian!

The Original Queen G, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This thread as struck jailbait bottom.

Dan Perry, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

why hasn't Ramosi posted to this thread yet?

DV, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

He's glued to his seat.

Andrew L, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ramosi and I have been busy negotiating a West Coast Bangbus

Brian MacDonald, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three weeks pass...
Read the "Terms and Conditions". I quote: "All images and videos within this website are non-violent. No humans were harmed in the making of any images or videos. All performers on this site are over the age of 18, have consented being photographed and/or filmed, have signed model release and provided proof of age, believe it is their right to engage in consensual sexual acts for the entertainment and education of other adults and believe it is your right as an adult to watch them doing what adults do.

The videos and images in this site are intended to be used by responsible adults as sexual aids, to provide sexual education and to provide sexual entertainment. The images and videos within this website depict real people and their behaviors when placed in fantasy situations. The behavior and actions within are intended only for the world of fantasy and it would be both irresponsible and dangerous to behave or act this way in the real world.

All performers are given the opportunity to be tested for sexually transmitted diseases at no charge to themselves within a reasonable amount of time before their performance. All activity is arranged and discussed in advance of filming and every effort is made to insure the health and safety of the performers and to ensure that their performance is a pleasant and enjoyable experience."

Easy Answers'R'Us, Sunday, 26 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Now I understand that this thread is not about Bagpuss porn, I can pop up to say to Mark (perhaps he knows) that the gold buses are a jubilee thing. At least I read that in 1997 there were 25 buses painted silver so I assumed that's what it was.

Bert, why would the women have to be 'naive' to want to be banged on the bangbus? How unspeakable are the acts?

N., Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

wtf is bagpuss porn and where do i buy it?

Queen Zepplin G, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"is this fuckin real?" of course!

NigNag, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My guess is that they have the women sign the waivers and agreements and what not, tell them they will be filmed, but dont tell them what is going to happen. There arent many trained actresses, let alone porn stars that could do the acting job done in those films.

Ben, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

it seems pretty real, but the most legitimate proof that it's not (besides that disclaimer) is the fact that they seldom wear rubbers

jesse james, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If the women are stupid enough to get into the bus then they are stupid enough to not use rubbers. I dont think the lack of usage of condoms proves anything.

Regarding the disclaimer, every porn site is required to have one. Of course, not every porn site follows one. So, who knows there might be some porn stars involved, but others would put someone like Audrey Hepburn to shame.

Superman, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Come on. It would have been down for a long time now if it was real. FBI is incompetent in everything except when it comes to sexual crime. Then they really get interested. You guys (and girls) just want to keep the fantasy alive...

John Nash, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

FBI has their own problems right now. They dont give a rats ass about BangBus. I am saying that it might be possible that some of the videos were completely real. Those girls wouldnt complain because obviously they dont want their parents to see it or their friends.

Superman, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ya its fuckin real. There are a lot of whores out there that will fuck anything for a little bit of USD. You got to admit, its fuckin adicting to watch. I just hope those crazy fuckers come out to Vancouver B.C. I would buy them a beer and we would all go out and pick up some dirty whores and fuck the shit out of them. Its just how we humans have fun these days. If you want to fuck, why not get it on tape and capitolize just like eveyone else. I say Bangbus.com is the best porn on the net, pure and fuckin simple.

LLP

lance l p, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My two best friends think Bangbus is real and they are out their minds and want me to use my van to do something simillar and they look fucking serious about it too! Of course I will never do it. I love to watch the bangbus but I know its not real, and I don't give a fuck because it makes me laught every time I watch it. I Got to give Bangbus credit because everytime I see an episode its hilarious and it looks fuckin real ,but its not.

Don Juan, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think the most beautiful thing about this is that these men have their way with the women and then abandon them at the end. I absolutely love that.

no tattoos, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

To simply answer the question: Is Bangbus real? The answer is NO. At least not the way they present it as happening. Example Sasha. Her still pics are taken when the bus is stationary which means that they were taken either before or after her video was shot. If Bangbus were real, then the possibility that she returned for still photos is less likely than porn footage of Britney Spears being legitamate. If then she posed for still shots BEFORE the video was made, that means she acted in the video. I think someone said it, some of these are probably more real than others, but overall it is just hilareous and entertaining porn. Which brings me to the reason i got here. I LOVE Reagan! I'm totally infatuated with her. I think she is sooooo sexy and awesome. The Guru (diamondguru2002@yahoo.com), do you know of any other sites where one can find Reagan? Does anyone know? I think she needs a fan site and i'd love to tell her so. Thanks.

Salamander Man, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Pros and cons seem equally divided. I think we won't ever REALLY know unless the founders of bangbus testify under oath or something, because we're just arguing back and forth, speculating without any hard evidence, FACTS!

KA, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In the Monica Episode....before she gets in the van/bus and he pans over to show the bus passing on the other side of the street a head peeks out behind the backseat. Now thats odd, well i need feedback on this or is it just a glitch.

Pir8, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm a girl. I like watching porn. I saw bangbus for the first time. I never want to have sex again!! What I do want to do is take a big ass gun, get on one of the buses, sign the waiver and then scare the shit out of them all. Shoot them in the ass. So if it is real, they better never let me on the bus! I will beat the living crap out of them if it's real...if it's not real, well...then it's kinda sick, makes me feel awful. The guys are ugly anyway. They don't get to be misogynists.

DisturbedByDaBus, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Whats Reagan's name on the bangbus site? i can't find who this girl is you keep all going on about,, i think - some are fake some real

Bangbus, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

let it be fake or real... BangBus just rocks anyway!

BangBus = One of the best pornsites ever!

BangBro, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hmm.... Bangbus? You people are arguing over.... (ahem) **BANGBUS??**

The rare occasion that those guys would manage to coax a complete *stranger* onto a van and then *rape* her? Sure, why not. After all, it's not like it's a CRIME or anything. Unless the girl does sign a contract allowing the guys to make explicit use of her body, which completely ruins the entire thought and makes it far less "real" and therefore "exciting."

Soo... in case it wasn't caught before, I don't think it's real, except perhaps one or two incidents when they operated exactly as they claim to, "real" being defined as when they have no consent whatsoever. It would be interesting to have some strait answers, though, like a good reason the authorities can't touch these guys, making the creators of Bangbus the coolest and smartest and slickest guys on the planet!

Anonymous, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Porn makers make the worst fake anonymous posters.

Brian MacDonald, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yo, this rican porn fiend kid in AOL hiphop chat broke me off a pass to BangBus a while back and I checked it out.........first off, it's fake.....second of all, it's not worth it.....most the girls are flat BUSTED, and the movie files are huge and take hours on the speed- limited connections to download........the hottest sluts were Rene, Mia, and Melissa, and I did in fact download those.......if you got ICQ and youre pretty sure I'm fond of your ass, e-mail me and you can judge the veracity of this shit your damn self......you think i'm joking?

Ramosi, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The only way to find out if its real is to try it yourself. But you should have the same psychological ability Sanchos has. :) As I can resumee after watching about 10 episodes the steps are clear: 1. Have a good eye on which girl might be advantageous. 2. Give her some money so she feels that she has to give you something for it before leaving 3.Be funny - let her relax 4. Be sexual in your talking - get her used to it. 5. Give her the feeling she could leave if she want to. 6. Find her weak point (cheating boyfriend/ lousy job) - get her emotional. 7. Say: "You are a type of a girl which always find excuses for not having fun" 8. Ask to show some tities and sucky sucky on them (use childish language all the time which makes you less dangerous) 9. Degrade her, get her frightend (threat her with showing it to her boyfrind or someone else) so that she knows there is no way back. 10. Fuck her.

Me myself, i must to admit that i am 80% sure that BB is fucking real. The biggest pros are the small things and faults which happen only in real life (line-bus leaves, some guy cann´t come and sends his friend instead, a girl wants to kiss the guy, Ugly drives in a one-way road, a.s.o) The hardest cons are the thing with the condoms and the fact how the girls react to the cam (which is not a handcam but a pro-one). They seem to bahave familiar to the camera and the fact being filmed having sex. So think about it and decide yourself or even try yourself. And don`t forget sexual arousement can fucking block your brain but I think you know it yourself. Garak Lamb

Garak Lamb, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I love the way this thread has loads of people who don't post to any other IL* threads. Are you all sweaty palmed surfers who googled "Bangbus" and found your way here?

Is Bangbus one of those transgressive porn things, in that it's all about women being raped and sexually abused? In which case, shouldn't you people who like it all be neutered for the good of society?

DV, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think they're all anonymous regulars DV.

(Actually no - we are #5 on Google for BangBus)

Tom, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

BNW you are a prophet!!

Tom, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

what are the chances that every random chick they pick up has a fully shaved pussy, manicure, pedicure, nice shoes, etc. if this shit is not a total set up? i've picked up plenty of women, and even the ones LOOKING for play, at bars and out in general, are not as perfectly goomed for a porn shoot as ALL these chicks "seem" to be "randomly." i love it, but it's got to be setup.

videocache, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

We just need to start a "pokemon pr0n" thread now.

bnw, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I loooooooooooooooooooooooooove BB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! These guys are crazy and fuckin funny! i admit that don´t really care, if it´s real or not, it´s just great entertainment!...although i agree a lot with Garak Lamb, he hit the spot...

-Have a good time with BB-

The Dude, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Some of you guys are total chods! Bangbus isn't about raping and abusing women. And if you think it is and you still find it cool, just blow your brains out and spare the rest of us from your dementia. Bangbus is supposed to be about the average girl who SPONTANEOUSLY embraces her sexual desires. About women who want and need sex badly, but just need the right opportunity to allow their lustfulness to blossom. It is the staged spontaneity that makes Bangbus exciting. Some of that spontaneity is real (i don't think the episodes are scripted), but the situations are completely staged and the women are paid. In response to (none@hotmail.com) questions about Reagan. Reagan was the first and the best. If you do a Goggle seach for "Reagan AND bangbus" you'll find some of her shit. What you won't find is the complete episode. In her episode as the guy first penetrates her, she begins to push him away and she says "no". He doesn't stop and after about 30 sec to a minute she is begging him to "cum on her face". Anyone knows the minute Reagan said no this became a rape . . . . IF IT WERE REAL. But it is most definately not. Still, her episode was removed from the site, i'm presuming for legal protection.

Salamander Man, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Bangbus is interesting, because if you view certain episodes it appears to be real and listening to a guy talk a girl into fucking on camera in a moving van is extremely compelling video. Here are the best arguments against Bangbus being completely authentic. 1. Every single girl wears provacative panties (if any) and all are extremely well manicured. 2. All the girls get of the bus very quickly without any argument. 3. Too many follow roughly the same patterns of resistance. The initial tit flash is a long time coming, but soon after the girl is sucking cock. 4. The girls ask what the camera is about early on, but never try to bargain with Sanchez by asking him to turn the camera off. 5. The girls also never try to put their shirts back on once they have them off. Some of the acting is too good and so I believe that they know a little but not exactly what is going to take place.

rocky, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

allow their lustfulness to blossom

I'm sorry, I just had to quote that.

L., Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

notwithstanding the fact that I am organising concentration camps for you Bangbus devotees, I do like the Bangbus meme. sooner or later I will get on a 46A and discover that I'm actually on the Bangbus and the ticket I bought constitutes consent. Woops.

with porn generally... there is something fascinating about the whole obsession with amateur/reader's wives style porn. Is it that if these sluts are genuinely gagging for it it somehow makes it all alright?

DV, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

All these Bangbus devotee/googlers = one guy... if it wasn't already obvious

Brian MacDonald, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You Know; I don't think it is rape at all. In my younger when a girl said no I din't question it, until one thought I was gay or something. Women don't ususaly admit to wanting sex for fear of being called a slut, until you are married then it is sex, sex, sex, more, more, more. I did get divorced and my sex maniac wife told her friends that I raped her all the time. Most of these friends I never saw for more than a few minutes are coming over all the time with her now. You might think it was for her protection as I did but then they stat staying late and coming over on their own. This one girl had a boyfriend I knew and she started telling me how he rarley has sex with her and wishes he was more agressive. I haven't done it in a while so I figure, OK what the heck, she is looking for a little fun. But then she is calling and calling me like we are gonna get married or something. I never had more women after me. My ex doesn't speak with any one of em because she was trying to get back with me at the time and when she found out her best friends were coming over with out her look out. BUt te long and the short is women want sex more than guys do, first hey will put up a little resistence and then bang they want it every night from you. Plus you get the bonus fo having them try to keep track of you 24/7 so no one else gets it from you..... Probably is fake but could happen, but if a woman says no and she means it you can tell, but if she is maoning and gyrating and relaxing then it is probably a yes. But if a woman ever says no after you penatrate her then it means no(like in the regan one), she proabably is having discomfort or something and she is not going to like it. By the way anyone need help giving or receiving orgasms I am the advice man for you 100% guarenteed.....

Dr. Orgasmo, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Right, who wants to respond to that munchfuck?

Dom Passantino, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Brian I don't think they are one guy.

Tom, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

So I've been pondering this very same question for a while now. Ever since I 'accidentally' came across the BB and began my crack-like addiction. This stuff is hilarious and I don't care if it's fake, I tell everyone I know to check it out. Anyway, after mulling over some of the 'evidence' submitted here I'd say we have to accept that the simplest answer is the most likely. These girls get paid, they know what's going to happen - but none of it is scripted.

A coupla things to consider(on both sides of the argument) - if this were real, there would be hits and misses - but they would of course only show you the hits(not all the times they struck out each day). So that's not a negative that they don't. Secondly, it is impossible to script what they've done. Real actors need a million takes, even pornstars need several and they have like 3 lines. If all of that were fake then porn videos in general would be much better -and we all know they are not. These gals are all out and about, so it's reasonable they don't look like slobs - but the panty thing rings true. At least one of 'em should've had some big ol' grandma panties on. The disclaimer means nothing because it would have to be there whether it were real or fake. It is interesting to note that sanchez always asks for specific consent each time - no matter how he phrases it. The only other thing that is problematic to me is the "where are we going thing" the girls take their excuses much too easily - even though Sanchez is excellent at quickly changing the subject. All of this region of South Florida is on a square grid and while visitors do tend to get lost it's really, really easy for any native, plus anyone who's been there longer than 12 minutes knows the beach is East.

CMax, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom, every single "googler" who has responded here has used a different alias and fake e-mail address every time. If there were at least two responses from one of the latter strangers here, I might see your point, but by reading the writing style of each of these posts, it smells heavily like the work of one guy -- down to the punctuation, sentence formations, frequency and regularity of posts since the first "googler", etc.

I can't prove this obviously, as I'm not the server admin or moderator, but just because a thread is heavily googled, it doesn't necessarily mean it will have a relative amount of responses.

Brian MacDonald, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And you'd also think one of these guys would call me on my accusation by now... or even acknowledge it, at least.

Brian MacDonald, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The top post is coming up seventh on google when you type in bangbus, so, no, we aren't all the same people. After listing some "why it's fake" tip offs let me tell you why I think it is also real. I've worked in theater and movies most of my adult life, and I'm certain the girls are exhibiting genuine concern about certain things. They don't seem concerned that someone may jump out of the van and pull them in. They don't seem truly concerned about the initial destination either. Most seem genuinely surprised however that they are being driven so far out in the middle of nowhere. After listening to Sanchez and Dirty so much, I also believe that the girls are planted on the street by the way they attempt to act out their discovery of the girls. So in my opinion the initial meeting and getting in the van is all preplanned. I think most are girls that work for escort type services but that they are told beforehand not to mention having signed anything or having met anyone before hand. I don't think they know however that there is going to be a camera. My guess, because of the before mentioned manicure issue is that they think that all that's going to happen, is that they may just do a strip dance. In many of them Sanchez mentions that it is someone's birthday. However, getting to the stage where they flash a tit is just too real. The girls are usually genuinely reluctant to do this. Sanchez is working way to hard to be faking this. He is relentless. He tries everything and when that doesn't work he starts all over again. Some of the girls don't care what happens to them, but most do. All seem truly afraid that they will be left on the side of the road. I'm puzzled by how easily they submit to giving head on camera, but once Sanchez has 'em naked, he gets very mean and I think that fear is a big factor in all of this. Those who think women want to fuck on camera if given the chance don't understand women. Most aren't interested in kissing which indicates pros. I think the real issue for most is the camera. Notice too how well they pull of the facials. Many writhe and moan as the guy jerks off and they are all good at controlling themselves once the spurting starts. I've seen far more women jerk involuntarily than not when the hot stuff hits em in the eye in videos. Too sum it all up I think getting them in the van is a set up (signed releases, etc.), but what happens to them in the van is coercion, persuasion and a little bit of brainwashing.

Rocky, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

does anyone need logins for bangbus...i got a bagful

gwaipor, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

bang bus is lame and questionable legally and ethically.

amateur stuff is cool but seeing whores browbeaten into giving BJs is more creepy than sexy.

Ms. S., Saturday, 8 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think it is believable since the chicks are pretty fucking nasty, I would ride with them if I knew I would get laid. Fuck ya.

ilovegoodnugz, Saturday, 8 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Personally I've seen a few of these movies, and quite frankly I can't imagine how these actress's fake it. Anyhow, the theory on the use of escorts, I've watched the Sasha movie and I can't imagine a escort going out with a huge zit on her butt...

muggsy, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

this site says it shoots the content for BB http://www.realbutts.com/home.htm?Handler=main&wm= on that page is also pantera's pic (she was a BB girl) http://www.teenagekicks.com/bangbus/pantera/

Pir8, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I cannot believe people think this is real. Some facts: 1. The routine is followed everytime - bend over, BJ, fuck, cumshot 2. The acting is SO bad - "where do you want to go? Oh, Bayside" - the detinations and explanations of where they are going are never specific. 3. The episode where the girl's phone rings and they tell her they're fucking the daughter - perhaps in real life the mother would call the cops? 4. Most of the chicks have tatoos and/or are shaved. 5. They never really get worried about the length of the trip or complain too much 6. No one is worried about the law or getting sued. 7. They always have third parties do the fucking

And, did I say the acting was BAD?????

Sheesh...

D Sanchez, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom, I still stand by my theory (except for Samantha's response, of course.).. or at least believe most of these are one guy.

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No matter what anyone says, bangbus is real. I attend high school in the caribbean, and considered an above average child. And in my country, being bright makes you quite popular with most people. I'm good friend with the teacher of electrical technology, so I persuaded him to give me the room one day. I called a girl, and made up some bullshit about doing a survey about what most girls know about their bodies. I had a table drawn up at first with the following columns: NAME, AGE, WEIGHT, BUST, WAIST, HIP, BREAST TEST I always have my tape measure, as a lot of these girls do not know their body measurements! When I found out that they don't know that, I'm like, "Well, why don't you know?," and act disappointed. After all, they should know, shouldn't they?

NOW TO THE FUN PART. In order for my satisfaction, I ask them if there breasts are droopy or firm. Of course, they say firm. I ask them to let me touch. Now here is the important part. If it's just you and her, most of them won't mind giving you a nice, long squeeze, even older girls. If they act like they don't want you to feel, then proceed to write droopy in the BREAST TEST column. Then, read out all her information to hear(age, bust, etc) and ask if its correct. NO GIRL IS GOING TO SAY "Yes my breasts are droopy." That's where they give you a nice, long feel to prove that they are firm.

After you have gotten the feel, you can ask to see them. The important thing here is that you are alone, OR a willing female friend of yours can show hers to make the girl feel secure.

If you want to go further with them, say something like, "Well, your breasts are kinda firm, it's just a shame you can't/don't know how to give a striptease" and look as if you're getting ready to leave. She usually has a look of indecision on her face, and I say "Hey, it's not your fault you can't please a man." This jolts them even more. If she has not started trying to convince me yet, I say; "get that look off your face. You know you couldn't do anything to give a man a hard-on"

After that, it's wild.

That is how I lost my virginity. (I'm 15, the girl is 17, and she is the girlfriend of my best friend.)

Also, in the start, it helps if you but in some bogus girl's information, just so the girls feel, that hey, if other girls do it, it couldn't be bad.

PS Most of the language has been translated to ensure understanding. As everyone knows, we don't talk about hard-ons in the caribbean, we say "yuh dick tan up" (your dick is standing up)

THE POINT OF THIS EXTREMELY LONG POST? The psychology that Sanchez uses can really work. I think the whole of it is real. In female circles (I talk to lots, lots of girls), a common question is:" What is the most weird/freaky/daring/strange thing you have ever done? The popular girls usually have had some "experiences." The unpopoular, average ones, in order to gain social acceptance, will usually get wild so she can boast to her friends about it. And this is exactly what sanchez capitalizes on. Their desire to be one of those girls who know how to have fun.

for questions, comments, email me. Really, I'm 15

Robert Williams, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Robert, your a fucking stud. Im so impressed.

Chris, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hi everyone!

I like to contribute a question! Anyone thought about the contraception issue? At this time i saw 3 or 4 bangbus videos and i never heard anyone complaining about contraception -

Well this is weired isn't it?

looking forward re

re, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

That's because you haven't seen Abortionbus, my deutchland cuz.

iledogfart, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If anyone would like more information about my method above, just email me.

Robert Williams, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hehe. And the, "really, I'm 15" part - that's classic.

david h(owie), Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Contraception, smontraception. If a woman is willing to fuck a guy that she just met in a bus with a camera running, she is either on the pill or just doesn't give a shit. I agree with you somewhat Brian. I think many of these are posted by one guy, but i also think there are enough "real" people posting to make this an interesting thread. I also think Rocky might be on to something. They arrange for escorts but don't tell them everything. Regardless, the whole "leave behind" is bogus and the stupidest part of the videos. And L. (lorenzomatic@yahoo.com), i'm glad you like my poetry.

Salamander Man, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

fuck u...who gives a fuck about whether they have contraception they should know themselves

gwaipor, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Why is it impossible that I'm 15?

Oh, and where you see "but some bogus information," it should be "put some bogus information."

Robert williams, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Alright, Bang Bus is fake. But... Bang Bus is real. I think they hire a pornstar (or just some random chick off the street) for a porno shoot. They tell her where to be and when and that'd be pick up her in a van. They probably tell the girl to have a certain character ready and give her a list of probable topics for the filming. They introduce her to the 3rd guy in the van and that's that. They go out, pick her up and everything except the sex is unscripted at that point. I've seen Reagan at other sites. Infact, I've met her afew times and she's my favourite Bang Bus girl by far. Although I'm really starting to like Liza and she hasn't even been fucked on the Bus (although she did two photo/video shoots for RealButts.com like two years ago).

Either way, Bang Bus fucking rules. Dirty is f'n hilarious. I'm addicted to BangBus and now I've sadly started to pick up Dirty's slang. Yes, I'm white and I've done the "Look at my hands and call myself black" joke in public afew times. I'ma get my ass whooped one day.

(Google learker and a real 15 year old.)

(Really, I'm 15. ;) )

ShelB, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The intriguing thing about Bangbus is that all the girls are different. For every obvious whore (Rene), there's one I can't figure out. Melissa is so cute when she blushes. You'll notice, Sanchez never gets her to do all that talking with her mouth full foolishness while she's giving head as well. There's lots of video cuts around that time, and I think you can tell he gave it his best shot and she just told him to go fuck himself. Sanchez seems compelled to abuse women. He's one of the meanest shits I've ever come across. Even when the action is wonderful he can't keep himself from jabbering like some goofy jar jar porn cartoon character. Even when the girl has done everything he's asked her to do and is fucking her brains out and is obviously enjoying herself, every 2 seconds that mouth of his has to spit out some nonsense. Once the sex starts, he needs to just shut the fuck up. Dirty can be mean, but he seems to be just putting on a show. Sanchez is typical of most bullies. He's all talk. He'll put his best friends on camera, even his girlfriend, but never himself. Like the Klan he's a coward at heart and he's got to keep that cloak on. Meeesaa the Grand Wizard. Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, . . . . . . .

rocky, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Uhh, I'm a 'Googler' and I'm just me. I promise. If you look up bangbus, this is like the 4th highest hit. I didn't even bookmark this page. I just waited a week and searched again to see new responses since my post. So here's my second post, does that help. Also, why would one guy make anonymous posts as different anonymous people? To what end? For what benefit? The only ones who would go thorugh som uch trouble would be the actual BB guys and why would them give a damn what is said here, as long as people keep paying their fees? More importantly this thread addresses the question anyone who has stumbled across BB asks themselves. Is this real?

I'm ready to accept that it's not. The main evidence is what first got me wondering which is namely the reuse of girls. Obviously Reagan gets around but search for Pantera too. I found some website that was supposed to feature random girls on South Beach doing public displays of nudity. Pantera(same name, same chick) and another BB girl (under different name) both appeared. Plus all these sites are so similarily organized - some of the same girls, same website software and scripts, same hosting - yet all supposedly some random amatuer guy.

Regardless, I still contend none of that dialog is scripted. Bad acting??? DO you talk to real women, regular people? This dialog rings true. That would be hard to write and very difficult to act. I say again if it were so easy porn movies would have awesome dialog and plots. Plus I can second the notion that Sanchez uses tried and true psycho techniques to coerce these women not the least of which is fear and ridicule. I'm no Sanchez but I can testify that stuff(plus his other tricks) works.

and as a ps 'Bayside' is exactly what you'd say if that's where you were going. It's one specific well defined place. Shit, when people say "let's go to South Beach" they're really talking about 2 streets like 4 blocks long.

CMax, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Trust me, it's real.

Ramone, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

OK, OK, I admit, I'll be 16 in August

Robert Williams, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dood I totally believed the shit, since someone wrote a message about the gals not wearing rubber. Btw, it's possible that Pantera may be on their bus by chance, and I haven't seen anyone else in other porn sites. However, how the fuck can those guys aren't afraid of being AIDS? Dood whenever I approach a girl or a woman or a bitch the first thing that scares the shit out of me is the possibility that she would be AIDS. How come those doods can fuck the girls in every position without a condom and without worrying. That's the only hard evidence that makes it fake. Well yea , dirty and ugly don't do the job but their friends and uncles! do it. Would you want your uncle to be fucked up?

Jackson, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

bangbus is as fake as a porn stars quadruple Z tits. i used to think it was real until I paid close attention instead of looking at tits. Its so obvious its fake. Thats why the recent 'update' and a few models arent there anymore, mainly because they are doing magazines & xxx movie's now. anyone who thinks it's real should wake up and realize how fake it is.

Truth Revealer, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll add this, from the disclaimer at bangbus.com about 3/4 down:

All performers on this site are over the age of 18, have consented being photographed and/or filmed, have signed model release and provided proof of age, believe it is their right to engage in consensual sexual acts for the entertainment and education of other adults and believe it is your right as an adult to watch them doing what adults do.

All performers are given the opportunity to be tested for sexually transmitted diseases at no charge to themselves within a reasonable amount of time before their performance. All activity is arranged and discussed in advance of filming and every effort is made to insure the health and safety of the performers and to ensure that their performance is a pleasant and enjoyable experience.

Truth Revealer, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The whole had been posted before (about 1/3 length).

Fake, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the first part wasn't

Truth Revealer, Saturday, 15 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i dont care it's fake or real, its very entertaining. and i can download them off kazaa. btw, just wanna say one more thing: the "Jessica" episode is fucking hot!!!!

Jamal, Saturday, 15 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I would like to see a list of the girls that have appeared in other stuff, sites, etc.

rocky, Saturday, 15 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

How do i get picked up by the bangbus? I know these guys are complete losers but somehow i'm attracted to their audacity

Jan, Saturday, 15 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Bangbus is a blend of fake and real girls. Rene is obviously fake, a swedish girl in need of help that looks that good (please). YOull see boobsquad.com another of their sites is using the same girls from Bignaturals.com. One of the biggest fakes is Isabelle, she is completely acting. I was annoyed they think their viewers are blinded by their act. Its entertaining but very very fake.

D

Derrick, Saturday, 15 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I did see Manuela from Bignaturals.com is Nikki from boobsquad and the bangbus episode with Christina. I have seen Sierra all over the place she is on boobsquad, big naturals and various amateur sites, I have seen Pantera on cdgirls.com (and also back when on real butts as mentioned before). I think this might be the same reagan but im not sure http://www.teenperfection.com/raunchy_reagan/teen_body.html someone feel free to let me know.

bangbus addict Sal

augustus, Saturday, 15 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

at least its not as fake as milfhunter.

dale, Saturday, 15 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Bang Bus is not real. It's all portrayed by actors. I have seen some of the actors in other porn sites and even videos. It's very funny the way they try to act it out because it's soooo fake. Most the the women in the bus can not act, but others do a decent job of acting. Its fun to watch. Some of the actors in the video gave away the question of "is bangbus real". They kinda blew the cover.

Josh Drew, Sunday, 16 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Fake for sure. The shoots make me sad and fascinated at the same time. Noel especially. Search for BBus victims/survivors/discussion board and there's nothing. If it was real there would be something out there on the net ie, the women trying to cope with getting raped and wanting to protest via the net where they were they were exposed and debauched. Logical no? Noel is so hot–she needs some nice treatment yet what a joke that I feel that way because if it was true I'd be able to reach her somehow but it's all fake, not real and staged to some degrees.....

a, Sunday, 16 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Graham, Sunday, 16 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have found this thread to be quite interesting. I started out as an addict, downloading full versions off of Kazaa, intrigued by the possibility that much of what I was seeing was real. Most of you have provide real contributions to a very good, I think, guess as to what Bangbus is actually all about. Thanks

rocky, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Rocky pretty much said it all.

I would add that some of the girls seem like they may be doing porn (or quasi-porn) for the first time...monica seems pretty genuine in her initial hesitance, and her pleas to make sure no one outside the van ever sees the tapes. My guess is that some of the girls have for one reason or another (perhaps curiosity + economic need?) decided to give it a go, but weren't told the full story, particulary the mass distribution of the video being shot. No doubt the papers they were required to sign contained some boiler-plate clauses making future legal action a non-option. And, of course, appropriate medical tests were performed on all participants, as indicated in the FAQs...hence the frequent absence of condoms (birth control likely via pill or some other female contraceptive). But the rest of them, like Rene and Alex, are seasoned strippers and/or escorts.

As to the shoots being scripted, other that general instruction to make it look like a spontaneous pick-up, I doubt anything else is predetermined, at least from the woman's side. Anyone who's done any dramatic work (I've written for stage and worked with actors) can tell you that memorizing even a few lines can take time...there's no way these chicks are "acting." A lot of the psychological interplay (and a lot of the sexual stimulation) seems real.

Sanchez is indeed the most annoying man on the internet. Rocky was bang on...Sanchez is a total "Jar Jar." The guy goes way, way overboard in his director/dominator role, and absolutely ruins the hottest moments with his constant yammering and that nails-on-a- chalkboard cackle. I wish someone would stuff a cock into his mouth once the sex starts...the videos would improve 100%. This guy has some serious issues with women. Maybe a few of those bangbus dollars can go towards some much-needed therapy.

Reality Check

R Check, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

graham: nice touch :-)

Alan T, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have a great idea: The Gay Bangbus.

These guys drive around in a bus, lure ostensibly straight men onto the bus, and then bang them, bringing out their repressed gay desires.

This bus is coming soon to a neighbourhood near you.

DV, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Thats exactly the Baitbus i think someone linked to it in the begining of the thread

Chupa-Cabras, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

look, in america you can find lots of these dumb girls who will do just about anything for money... they don't find any danger with it... now in canada where people are not so rash things are *ahem* unfortunately different

hoser, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

matt middleton to thread!

queenoftheharpies, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Go to networksolutions.com, to the "whois" section. Look up bangbus.com, cumfiesta.com, boobsquad.com, backroomfacials.com, and the list probably goes on. The underlying company is "Dotster.com". This is corporate run moneymaking shit, not a couple of douchebags running and around in any kind of independent manner. While I don't believe all these women are totally happy about what they are doing, I do believe that the understanding of what they are doing is there well before any of them step into the bus.

James K, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually, maybe Dotster is just the registrar. I don't know, but it's interesting to chase down the involved parties. Found this link interesting. http://www.oxcash.com/home.htm?Handler=main&Webmaster=

James K, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If you think that Sanchez is bad (and I don't mean 'good'), check out one of their other websites - http://www.backroomfacials.com, where they also have the trailers. Basically, this guy (makes Sanchez look like an angel) puts ads in the newspaper for wannabe 'models' or porn stars, and asks them to come for a 'screen test'. Most of them seem to be under the illusion that they are just there to have a chat, fill out forms, whatever (which seems pretty dumb). Sensing their desperation and need to make a few bucks, he then tells them that they have to get 'neked' for the purposes of the screen test, which 'may' lead to job offers, and that they won't get much further unless they go through him - but of course, it's their choice. If they are hesitant, he tells them that they can leave at any time, because there are a lot of girls who are waiting for such a great opportunity. He then kind of bullies them into taking their clothes off, performing 'oral acts' on him, spreading their 'lips' (as he puts it, to check that they are clean) then gets then down on this table and proceeds to have sex with them, while all the while calling them whores and sluts, telling them that they should be lucky that he is giving them this opportunity - and this guy is not acting, he means it. He is one bitter, nasty bastard.

I think that some of them are a bit stunned and puzzled as to why he is so mean. When he's done with them, he tells them that he may or may not have a job for them, and shows them the door, not even giving them time to clean themselves up or to put their clothes back on. One of them he calls a 'stupid bitch', and tells her that she was the worse one he ever had. Another one, Naomi (who is also in the bangbus hall of fame), he writes words like 'slut' and 'whore' all over her body, while he is fucking her. What I would like to know is, did Naomi fall prey to the bangbus before or after she went to see this guy. In the bangbus she was spouting all this ghetto talk and was acting like some kind of 'home girl', while this time she came across as more innocent and naive - I don't know what to think, maybe she was just showing off to Sanchez and his crew. All I know is, it ain't acting. I don't think that many women would go through that kind of personal humiliation (and believe me, it is humiliation) for a few bucks. He even told one of them, Precious (his "first filmed conquest"), that she was "stinky". When they ask him why does he need to film it, he says that it's for legal reasons, which makes sense (can you imagine the potential lawsuits), but is also convenient for him, as he can then humiliate them again on the internet, and also make some money for his troubles.

As for the bangbus, whoever said that Sanchez & co are losers need to think again. They are basically 'amateur professionals'. They obviously spend a lot of money spreading the 'bangbus' word, because there are bangbus 'advertising' sites all over the place. This bangbus thing is now an empire - those guys must be multi- millionaires by now. I have seen most of the episodes, and although a few of the girls may be hip to what might be going on, and are probably in the porn industry to some extent, it's clear that most of them definitely are not. The thing is, Sanchez has unique powers of persuasion, not everyone can do what he does - although I must add that I think that he is also bitter and twisted - the kind of guy who pretends to love women, but really hates them. Garak Lamb's post earlier explained it all. Another point that I'd add is that he uses flattery quite a bit, because he knows that it can go a long way with certain females, basically insecure types with low self-esteem. When he gets them to take their tops off, even when their chest is almost as flat as a pancake (as in Reagan's case), he's still gushing "beautiful, beautiful", as if they were the best thing since sliced bread. They do at first come across as harmless college kids, which is part of the trick to get them in the van, and it's clear that they're thinking that they're only going to hang out with some cool guys in a cool van. Now any female with half a brain would not step into any van (with tinted windows) with a bunch of guys, no matter how cool or funny they are. So these bangbus victims are not exactly the smartest chicks in town, unless they're the type who don't really care what happens to them, and who no one else cares about - the Dirty One's favorite kind. A lot of it is down to basic lack of life experience, naivety and common sense - and there are people out there who are willing to take advantage of that.

Dark Angel, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

hey dark angel, it's owned by oxcash, same company that does bangbus, boobsquad etc. naomi is just another model they hired. and its not a few bucks for public humiliation, oxcash makes enough money and has a SHITLOAD of sites.

Truth Revealer, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

hey gwaipor how do i get a password? i want to see the whole movie!

gino, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oxcash/Oxideas own all those sites and Naomi was not victimized but a willing participant. She makes her share of money to be treated as such and understand the situations fully.

bert, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Guess what? There is an easy way to find out. I think it is fairly obvious that they are a lucrative business. From their ubiquitous presence on porn-related site, I would have to say that they are spending a considerable amount of time, effort, and especially money on marketing. Furthermore, the numbers that Tom has provided us above (incidentally, could you tell me how you found these statistics) "316,000 European visitors last month, 570,000 US visitors" indicated to me that they must be pulling in millions.

Now, I've got three suggestions for you:

1) They are obviously pulling in loads of cash, if they are illegitimate, I guarantee that the IRS would have audited them by now. If not, you can contact the IRS at 1-800-829-1040 for the Criminal Investigation Hotline in your area. Report 'em.

2) Their advertising explicitly states that this is all "real." This is in direct contradiction to the waiver that you must checkmark before you enter the site. Now, if these videos are "real," it is evident that at no time do they ask the girls for their agreement to be filmed in a movie that will be distributed for cost, they are illegally voiding the individual's right to a cut of the profit in the process. This constitutes a violation of the individual's rights to receive reimbursement for their services. If they are receiving reimbursement, then their advertising campaign is clearly false, and therefore they can be investigated by the BBB. Incidentally, if anyone wishes to file a complaint with the BBB, you can find information at this URL: http://www.bbb.org/bbbcomplaints/Welcome.asp

3) They have repeatedly mentioned their affiliation with a University and the fact that they reside in Miami. I believe it would be worth contacting both the University as well as the councilmember or local congressman in Miami, explaining the situation and letting them know that this situation exists and is defiling the reputation of Miami, as well as their educational institution.

4) I think many of their documented statements about hispanics and their actions towards hispanic women might be of interest to certain hispanic organizations. A complete listing can be found at: http://www.hispaniconline.com/res&res/org_ix.html Here are some suggestions:

NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF HISPANIC JOURNALISTS (est. 1984) PRESIDENT: CECILIA ALVEAR VICE PRESIDENT-PRINT: MARILYN GARATEIX VICE PRESIDENT-BROADCAST: WALTER BALLEZA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: ANNA LOPEZ 1193 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 Tel: 202-662-7145 Fax: 202-662-7144 1-888-346-NAHJ E-mail: nahj@nahj.org Web site: www.nahj.org

ASSOCIATION OF HISPANIC ADVERTISING AGENCIES (AHAA) (est. 1996) PRESIDENT: HORACIO GOMES (e-mail: horacio@headquartersadv.com) 8201 Greensboro Drive, Suite 300, McLean, VA 22102 Tel: 703-610-9014 Fax: 703-610-9005 Web site: www.ahaa.org

5) Finally, alerting the FBI is never a bad idea, particularly if you mention how easily accessible their clips are for young children.

These are just a few ideas for anyone who is interested, to get a little payback for these sons-of-bitches.

-D. Bruml

D. Bruml, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

2002 Most Boring Thread Evah

Brian MacDonald, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe Brian, or maybe it's the one you started with the query

"What would have happened to disco then?"

http://www.ilxor.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=008w2C

Syble, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, at least that boring thread ended..

Brian MacDonald, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Exactly.

Rocky, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm speechless.

Brian MacDonald, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dark Angel hit the spot

Robert Williams, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

back to bangbus, fizuck you disco beyatchdes

augustus, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Beyatchdes?

Chris, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

beyatc....what? Wow nice spelling. I want to know more of who dirt and ugly are though. If anyone has a take Id like to hear it.

zeb, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I love disco. my favourite disco track is 'Lost In Music' by Sister Sledge. As you know, it was produced by Chic.

DV, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

back to bangbus you idiots, disco sucks, 80's suck, the 80's show suck.

sigma, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You know, for enthusiasts of prank style porn, you guys exhibit far less humor than even the History & Theory Of Psychology forum here on Greenspun.

Brian MacDonald, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

die stupid thread, DIE!!


i'm not helping, am i.

Dave M., Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Why is cream so ...creamy?

mike hanle y, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Bert’s original post mentioned something that I agree is at the root of this thread, “it's obvious that some of the girls are fake but some others are either incredible actresses or they really are naive enough to let these guys do, umm, unspeakable acts to them.” I personally am not into professional porn, because if you’ve seen one too-perfect girl act like she’s having an orgasm you’ve seen them all. Homegrown Videos out of San Diego is a good source of amateur porn if you can rent them. Most are tapes of guys with professional women of one sort or another. I try to avoid these, but some are truly couples that have taped themselves. The porn industry was caught by surprise when amateur porn took off. They couldn’t understand why many would rather see these average looking people having sex rather than what they had decided porn should look like. The answer for me is the reality. The true enjoyment of sex is far more interesting I think than pretend. But tapes of this type typically only show sex between two partners who have already consented. Bangbus is interesting in a different way because with a number of these girls we are watching genuine seduction. Some are obviously acting, and know about Bangbus and they are totally forgettable, they stick out like sore thumbs. Bangbus is not all real, but curiously it is not all fake either. This thread collectively has pointed out a series of factors that would seem to indicate that Bangbus is fake-the disclaimer, the lack of condom use, how all the girls are similarly manicured, the fact that some have appeared on other sites, the artifice apparent in the initial pick-up and drop-off, the logical assumption that a site so well known would eventually be shut down if the girls hadn’t signed releases beforehand (either by law enforcement or lawsuit). And yet . . . there are long stretches of time when these girls absolutely are not acting. Explaining how we know this would take too long, but the clues are there for all of us to see, and I think careful viewing of girls like Melissa and many others, make this apparent. Great acting is too difficult a craft to be pulled off by so many, so consistently, so well on this site. And so, Bangbus cannot be dismissed as totally fake. That it is unscripted is a given. The real question is do they have a rough outline of the outcome before they get in the van. For instance: 1. Resist getting in the van, 2. Question where we are going, 3. Resist taking off your blouse…etc. Since I believe that I am witnessing so much genuine emotion my guess is no. That Sanchez is good at what he does and is using very sophisticated mind control techniques is also a given. You then have to explain why a girl would allow herself to be manicured and tested for aids, if she has no knowledge that she is about to be taped having sex. The following is my best guess. A girl is somehow contacted (a newspaper ad, or perhaps girls they meet and solicit) Ideally I think they want girls who they know are easy, but not prostitutes. These guys would not want to have to deal with a hostile prostitute. Sometimes they have ended up with one. Remember when Rene announced she was bored and wanted to get on with it J. But I think for the most part they try to avoid this. Once they have a girl they like here’s one way they might set it up. 1. Tell her they are students at a local University doing a study on sexuality. They will pay her to ride around in a van with them so they can ask her some questions. The guy in the van with them is actually the one being studied, so they need her to pretend she is walking down the street, waiting for a bus, etc. For the purposes of the study they may tape a little, take photos, so they need her to sign a standard release, so they can use the footage for their course work. They tell her they are going to be studying his reaction to her for the purposes of the study as they ask her various questions. They might even point out that the contract states that if she purposefully gives away the set up, that she forfeits her money. With all the money they are making they can probably offer these girls a lot of money up front. Here’s where it gets tricky. They tell her sometimes if subjects of the study like each other, they might make out a little. They promise that at no time will they be forced to do anything, and this might be boldly lettered in the contract. Because they are offering so much money and there might be some physical contact they are required by the University to insist on an aids test and they assure the girls that the male will be similarly tested. Here’s where it gets really tricky. They also insist that because they are measuring the male’s response to her, she should dress in a sexy manner. They want her to feel sexy too. They might say, “A male can sense that you know. We want you to feel more sexual than you’ve ever felt. Wear sexy clothing on the outside and underneath. You have to wear this thong and (now your not going to believe how this is going to make you feel) we want you to visit this Emma Jean’s around the corner. They’re going to make you up, fix your hair, and give you a manicure.” She might protest that she has no intention of taking off her clothes and of course they will tell her no problem, but this is something that we require, and you can take it or leave it. “Believe us your going to enjoy all of this. You like to have a little fun don’t you. We promise you, look it says right here in the contract. You will be in complete control of the situation. It will only go as far as you want it too.” They might even tell her there is going to be some abusive language to analyze the male’s protective response. Most of the girls seem not to react to strongly to Sanchez’s verbal abuse. They might even throw in some extra money if the girl goes all the way. And so the setup-they have someone they will pick up. She has signed the release. Whatever they tape, they are paying for and can use for the web site. She is pretending to a certain extent, but doesn’t really know what she’s gotten herself into. The drama that plays out once she gets in the van is, from her perspective, a total surprise. She may have no intention of taking off her clothes, or having sex, but may know in the back of her mind that she gets more money if she does. Then throw in the intense pressuring techniques. What is totally unique about Bangbus is that they actually tape the seduction. We see these girls go through the entire process from not wanting to be touched, to full intercourse. That is why as much as I despise certain aspects of it, Bangbus is initially very interesting. It is original and unique. I halfway expect that it will not always be available and maybe that’s for the best. Returning to Bert’s original post, “(if you don't know what Bangbus is then I recommend that you keep it that way, it has caused no end of guilt and self-analysis in this little boy).” That’s not bad advice.

rocky, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well put and analyzed, that was an excellent post and shows like many who have watched bangbus it is a spectacle that forces the viewer to either contemplate the setup or masterbate and fall asleep.

tom hatcher, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I really hope that bangbus is not real! Otherwise the girls would be ready for a psycologist after being humilated like that. During watching I thought it was kind of fun for the stupid girls till the end of the clip. But the way they affronted and finally threw them out of the van isn't funny anymore. If they aren't actresses they would feel raped after that.

If it is real... just shoot the guys, if not... it's a little too much showing badly prosecuted power on women

kroz, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Congrats, this thread is number one on google :P

not really Bert, Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Damnn..pathetic losers, what the fuck does it matter if its real or not... Why dont yall just try to score some chicks in real life instead of jerking behind your monitor...

bless, Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Man fuck you, its tight as fucking amateur porn you just into baitbus you fucking bitch

, Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Interesting thread. As a girl that likes porn, I have to admit that bangbus is very exciting. Like almost everyone else, I also I'm not sure about whether this is fake or not. You know what? It doesn't matter (okay, maybe it matters if you think you are some sort of "Protector of Innocent Women" and you think it's your job to shed light into the fact you think this is real. If anyone is really worried, then what are people doing to stop these "criminals"? I say just enjoy the ride (no pun intended). Even if this is somewhat real, the girls must have had to sign something releasing the tape. If not, lawsuits would be everywhere. It's the same thing that happened to the guy from Girls Gone Wild. At first he didn't get releases from the women, and then he had to settle out of court up the butt. In other words, at the very least, these girls must have signed a consent at some point. Perhaps the van comes right back to their house and they "really" give them money this time. Regardless, I think the whole premise is very interesting and exciting. I'm tired of seeing women with fake boobs and fake orgasms . . . "reality" (even if it's pseudo) sex is the best.

Bang, Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hey! Googler here (1st post). Great thread. I'm wondering what you all think about captainstabbin.com ? Is it fake too? I'm not advertising for them- it's just along the lines of BB and mike's- apartment.com . Except it's not quite as humiliating to the girls and it's pretty damn funny. Anyway after reading this thread I'm getting more convinced that BB is setup. My theory is that they do the escort thing, and their reactions to being dumped off is real (since they don't get paid). I'd say there's a good possibility that the escorts were told to expect sex before they're picked up. We may never know. But anyway if anybody's checked out the captain's website, tell me what you think.

Jeff, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah gohin...icq me for a password 107512048 don't use the email

it's not actually a movie but a series of movies

gwaipor, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I would like to know what site ugs and d sanchez referred to as those punks in new york biting their style. anyone know?

cibomatto@yahoo.com, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think it's staged, first off: these chicks would have to get AID's tested "at least I hope they would" second: I'm assuming to appear in a porno movie they would have to sign a contract.

me, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

BangBus

jeez, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This site has a bunch of pics from Bangbus and its free...These chicks are definitally faking..probably hookers Shitty Bangbus Preview Shite

Shithead, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Of course they are paid models, it even says so on their site, http://support.oxcash.com/records/ is at the bottom of the main page.

They're busted, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Man those guys are sick !!! I was searching about bangbus and found another site from the bangbus crew that is more degrading for females...I can't think it can be real...

chico, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

wow.. i have been watching bangbus for months, and never considered it to be fake until coming across a file on kazaa called "bangbus is fake".. viewing it.. it was a clip of reagan sucking cock for another porn site. i'd definetly agree that reagan and pantera (both taken off the site, but i'd never heard of until I dug their episodes off kazaa) are fake. but the rest.. i'd never have guessed. there is fairly good evidence for both arguments of this story.. the acting is too real to be fake, period.

btw, i'm a "googler", what does it really matter? i know nothing of greenspun.com, and will never go to it I assure you. i was searching for "bangbus fake" if you're dying to know.

~BH~Infected, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Reagen is just a pornstar slut, she was used as a building block for bangbus when they were starting out, so she is what is called a starlet, these girls are in many sites, the site you probably were thinking of was cumfiesta.. Bangbus is real! and here to stay

Jud http://www.judsmovies.com

judsmovies.com, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

bangbus is taking more 'bangs' off the site because they are appearing in porno vids & mags. 3 girls (not reagan or pantera) are all in movies or some magazine, and more will probably appear soon since they are all pornstars. bangbus is fake, open your eyes.

no need, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The action is definitely real. (Of course) The stories and dialogue seem to "come" together by way of improv therefore, I don't think for a moment that there's much of an actual script. As some of you have mentioned, some of the girls are featured on sister sites as well as that Mary Jane and Santino Lee (the black couple featured in one of the episodes) are established adult entertainers as is the saucy mammary queen Sierra recently seen on Boobsquad. It's entertaining at times to me but I wanted to know if it's me or did anyone else notice on their sister site backroomfacials the five-pointed star (almost-I said almost) Satanic looking symbolism in the logo. As one who is taoist-esoteric (but lives for the lotus temple gate of the woman) and not fond of the bastardized derivatives of most organized religions, I still pay attention to symbols. Peace and piece.

carlton davenport, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It was a good point that someone made about Sasha's photos being taken when the van was still.. pointing to the fact that her episode is definetly staged. I went back to the website and looked.. and the first full page of photos were indeed taken when the van was still, so good observation.

By the way.. all the little kids who are posting with the fake email addresses and such.. your comments and thoughts are completely null and void in my opinion. Post with a real email address and maybe i'll give your post a thought.

~BH~Infected, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I just ran across this: BangBus Special

-looks like you can get entry to a bunch of other sites along with Bangbus.

A friend sent me a long list of sample galleries from the bangbus:

mia alex sheila rene reagan sascha isabelle jenny

allan, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Holy Moly- and I thought The Bangbus was harsh- have you seen their latest site? This is is AWFUL! I *hope* this is fake.

Backroom-Facial.com

allan, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Brian MacDonald, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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--, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Brian MacDonald, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You guys might need some religious healing and a way to redirect those hard earned paychecks

Brian MacDonald, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Thanks Brian; this thread looks heaps better now. Scientologists are even more amusing than porn addicts. Hey you know that Scientology is only a religion in America don't you?

hamish, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

that dumbass took about 5 tries to get it right lol.

., Saturday, 29 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

gay in the 18th-century sense or gay in the 8th-grade sense?

mark s, Sunday, 30 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

gay as in the faggot ball licker you are.

brian macdonald is gay, Sunday, 30 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)


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