I live in squalor! (A picture thread!) :-D

Not that I'm outright complaining, cuz I'm about as much to blame as most people living here, but ew.

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And maybe this thread -- discovering a JUG OF PEE in your new bedroom: C or D -- is a good indicator of the %#$%TEdfjkroAHHhhh-ness around here.

Not pictured: cat vomit.

D:

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This all looks much worse in person.

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I actually removed a party-size pizza box from the center of the floor there.

...

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(FEEL FREE TO POST PICTURES OF YOUR OWN FILTH)

thank you for making me feel better about my life.

half full beer on the records, safe!

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yw

not even the basement is safe!

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hahaha why do we have this

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ok that's all for now

I'm esp. impressed by the cigbutz floating in the....liquid in that tupperware container.

Yeah I don't know what that is. My girl speculated barf. But I dunno.

Looks like standard student digs to me...

thank you for making me feel better about my life.

― Matt P, Sunday, November 30, 2008 10:54 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah. Only one of us is actually a student, but we're all 20-somethings. Still, this is really bad. One of my roommates came back from tour and said 'I spent a month doing nothing but sleeping in a different person's house every night, and ours is the worst.' xpost

taking out the trash/throwing things in it is not that hard, is it? i'm mystified

Six people live here, all of which are fairly messy and gross to varying degrees. Look away a minute and it's all piled up again. We could clean up tonight and it'd be a wreck again in a week.

thank you for making me feel better about my life.

― Matt P, Sunday, November 30, 2008 10:54 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― schwww im tired (harbl), Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:12 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

And what do your parents think about this, hmm?

most student digs are better than hat tbh...that's "aftermath of a house party" level of bad.

btw the art of preventing things from getting like that is a lot more impt than being able to clear it up once it does get to that state!! eg don't use plates as ashtrays, don't leave the plate on the sofa when you're done, throw beer bottles away when you've finished the beer &c &c

those pictures are horrifying

http://www.pocketropolis.co.uk/blog/uploaded_images/kimaggie.jpg

yeah not a lot of things make me wanna puke, but this does xp

http://www.squalorsurvivors.com/index.shtml

Not far off this kind of level really. Does your landlord come round often?

NOPE!!

tbf this is like the worst it's been in a while.

If you pool your $$$ could you get a weekly housekeeper?

seriously, how can you live there?

I don't remember many student houses that were that bad either, my own included, but OTOH if there really are photos here that make someone nauseous just to look at it might say more about them than anything

maybe we need to look at this one again:

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii317/RabitesAngelatin/range_is_dumpnow005.jpg

^^can proudly say I had nothing to do with that one

lol at drum throne as furniture

omg. like my room is messy right now but not full of trash or weird substances! it's just too small so some things have nowhere to be put away! but woah. this is even worse than my old roommate's house, which is saying a lot - that place made me sick!

it's not so much the pictures themselves but imagining the smell of stale smoke and beer and puke and old rotting garbage. not sure what that "says" about me that's so wrong xp

It doesn't really smell, actually.

It used to look like this!

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii317/RabitesAngelatin/range_no_dump.jpg

I live in clutter, but not squalor

it has to smell, but you never think your own house smells

Burn it all down.

srsly, smoking houses always smell. you just don't realize it.

...although I have many of the items in these photographs (old games consoles, mismatched furniture, piles of stuff, etc.)

Well I mean it doesn't smell...like trash. ....nearly as much as you'd think.

:(

The furniture w/o legs always gets me. After the filth, that is.

proof: aforementioned gross roommate's house was a smoking house. a while after i moved out, after not being around smoke for a while, i opened a box and this flood of smoke and dog hair came out. it was shocking.
xpost

I'll grant you the cigarettes-in-mystery-pool scenario ain't too pretty but the rest of it is pretty much clutter... yeah chuck your empty cans out FFS but it doesn't make the house a death trap either

how many ppl live there?

i am actually surprised you have found a lady who will spend time at this place!

Me too!

Six people.

She's very excellent. But also a neat freak, so I'm as thankful as I am mystified.

The question is, is your own room as squalid?

I mean, after the jugs of pee, maybe your room is super clean?

maybe she is thinking she can save you

the six ppl part is crucial, here: anyone can stealthily deposit trash/cigs/cans/disgusting filth and no one else is the wiser. the only way it'll get clean is if you do one of those house meeting deals that no one really likes and get cleaning. get surgical masks and elbow length rubber gloves. then, move out.

We have those get togethers occasionally.

Moving out in January/Feb! Two hemispheres worth!

two hemispheres is a sphere, so you're telling me that you're flying around the world and moving back into your disgusting house?

north/south
east/west

gbx u so smart! that is why you are in doctoring school!

Bedroom's a little better, though getting cluttery because I've been ebaying.

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get surgical masks and elbow length rubber gloves. then, move out.

I remember having to clean out the salad tray at the bottom of a fridge once, the veg in the bottom had turned into rancid compost. I only had the aid of one rubber glove, which I soon realised had a small hole in one finger.

ugh this thread is making my stomach turn. why do i keep reading?!

Haha, I don't know! I'm sorry tehresa :(

It looks like the home of boys without mommies.

could peter pan help?

gah years ago a friend of mine lived in that sort of situation - one day i was over there and in some weird uncharacteristic fit i couldnt take it any more and i just grabbed a garbage bag and started collecting all the trash - the roommates feeling guilty no doubt joined in and we threw away like 20 bags full of crap - of course a week later the place was completely destroyed again

The tapestry really ties the room together.

this thread just made me clean my room

i could never live with smokers--so fucking disgusting

My room would have been a candidate for this, except I spent over two hours cleaning yesterday. Oops. I'll get back to you in two days.

bowl of stuff: arrrrrhhhjasjdjlkasda. I took it to be the initially unpictured cat vomit. About ten servings of cat vomit.

I live in a flat with mould and damp and which hasn't been properly hoovered for, um, ever (my hoover doesn't really work), so I'll be another one thanking you for making me feel not so bad about that.

This is the pile of stuff to my right...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/3071700748_87bc169245.jpg?v=0
This is the pile of stuff behind me...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3178/3071700870_4f9b0f8fef.jpg?v=0
...and this is the pile of stuff to my left (not quite to the ceiling like the other two, but getting there)
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The pile of stuff behind you seems to be... a bookshelf?

With stuff piled on top of it. And it reaches the ceiling. And there's also stuff piled in front of it.

With 6 people you could easily have afforded to have yr home cleaned once a month.

The closest I have to genuine squalor in my apt. right now is the bathroom. Oh, and the legions of dead rats piling up under my kitchen sink (see Rats! thread)

You could arrange a scheme where everyone pays each other to do it. Problem solved, at no cost. Or alternatively...
http://www.chorewars.com/help.php#why

The lesson I've learned about living in shared flats is that if there's more than 2 people, it is very sensible to set up a system of cleaning turns, where everyone has to clean up a part of the flat every week or two. Otherwise it's just a case of "dissolved responsibility": first someone absent-mindedly leaves a piece of thrash somewhere, then someone else thinks, "Hey, someone else here hasn't cleaned up after her, so I don't have to do that either!", and pretty soon there's carbage everywhere, and no one wants to take the responsibility of cleaning it all up, because they feel they're only responsible for the thrash they left, so they don't want to clean up everyone else's mess too.

This is especially true of washing up. It really gets to a critical stage when there are no clean plates in the entire house, because then you have to wash up a plate before you can use it. And after you've used the plate, you have the choice of either putting the dirty plate back in the sink (guilt) or washing it up again and putting it away in the cupboard (resentment because you're effectively washing up twice).

We had a great system in my house two years ago. Now I'm living somewhere else, and I feel like it's not too messy in the common areas, but a former flatmate visited a couple weeks ago and said, "Guess you guys still don't mind living in a shithole." Then I went to my parents' for Thanksgiving and realized that in comparison, yeah, we do live in a shithole.

But with so much STUFF around, belonging to so many different people, it's hard to clean! I at least do more than my share of the dishes, so I kinda figure if I keep that under control then other people can worry about sweeping, dusting, etc.

I think I've long ago given up hope I could ever keep my flat as clean as my mum's place. There's a certain balance to be found between living in a shithole and being anal about cleanliness.

i cleaned my room really well about 2 weeks ago and it is a disaster again.

congrats! this is about on par with a house that some of my friends lived in during college, and they made it on to jenny jones for having one of the filthiest houses in america.

For some reason a lot of my friends in Ann Arbor lived in total filth like that. There was the Korean and Indian guy who tried to outdo each other by making ethnic foodstuffs and never, ever cleaning up so the house smelled like week old curries and kimchee. This was coupled with the discarded papers on the floor about 3 inches thick, and they would require all visitors to run and slide across the room upon entry (referred to as the "Coolio Slide").

Same Indian guy lived with a bunch of other friends in a horrifying house they dubbed "Sarlaac". It had several plastic cups of beer around with cigarettes suspended in the liquid that were referred to as Sarlaac Aquariums. They flooded the basement, set a stuffed toy whale on fire, and actually had a bounty of a case of beer if you caught one of the guys in the bathroom that was off-limits to him due to repeated disgustingness.

The last place was two guys, one of whom went out of town for a month with all the dishes dirty. The other guy just ate KFC every day and left the dishes. When then started smelling bed he'd just pour bleach on them every morning.

But honestly these pictures might be worse than any of those.

actually one of my houses was really bad. we had a luau party with a kiddie pool in the living room, and no one bothered to empty it. it just sat there, with the water getting black and brackish, and people would throw in cigarette butts. eventually it leaked and destroyed the carpet and the flooring. but that's not as bad as the jenny jones house, in which someone put a container of vomit up in the drop ceiling of the kitchen.

No...I don't think so. Although anything involving cigarettes suspended in liquid might be a tie too bad to judge (worst photo upthread, IMO).

xpost oh my goodness. y'all have redefined "shithole" for me.

aforementioned smokey roommate also used to let food go bad in the fridge a LOT. she was a photographer so then made up an excuse that she wanted to photograph the crazy mold, but i think she really was just too lazy to throw it out/clean the dishes.

we are really bad about that because we hate taking out the trash more than necessary, so it seems easier to let things decay harmlessly in tupperware.

when i moved in, she had gone to germany for a week on vacation. i arrived after she'd been gone a few days to find cups and blender full of water/the remnants of some soy powder shake thing in the sink, with fruit flies all around it, and mold starting to grow. this was when i knew i'd made a terrible mistake.

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Hummus?

Pancake batter mixed with water?

bean remnants with a film of congealed pork fat and soap suds?

Monkey Bonkers, in the interests of settling this question, I'm afraid we're going to have to ask you to taste it.

holy fuck dude clean that shit up

it actually looks kind of like melted strawberry ice cream floating on top of stagnant foulness.

That is a line John Lennon eventually rejected for 'I Am the Walrus'.

She's very excellent. But also a neat freak, so I'm as thankful as I am mystified.

I'm guessing she must also like a good spanking now and again, because she has to be masochistic, right?

I've actually witnessed something very similar like this in person. I was just in.... shock.

I used to have these housemates who would never clean up after themselves, so to test them I decided to stop cleaning up after them and see how long it would take for them to do it. We didn't have a garbage disposal, so any solid foot leftovers went in the trash. And eventually the trash began to overflow, with wet eggs and beans and other crap spilling over onto the floor. Eventually there was a huge pile that practically obscured the trash can. And the worst part was that the dumpster was maybe 15 feet away from that trash can. Of course, the rest of the place was pretty fucked up too. My theory that they would clean up for themselves proved to be quite false.

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creamola foam?

I forgot about the worst Ann Arbor house that I ever saw - my brother in law used to live with a bunch of dudes and the place was a total, complete shithole. There was four inches of standing water in the bathtub that never went away, and the bathroom seriously had a moss-like coating of fur from various body hairs covering the entire floor. They had cut paths through the garbage to walk around the kitchen. He graduated and moved away, and when he came back a year and a half later nobody had cleaned anything while he was gone.

I have no idea why Michigan students seemed to be so fucking horrible at housecleaning.

this is funny because my sister's dorm suite at kalamazoo was also a disaster!

oh god that picture, cut it the fuck out

I think perhaps there may be some cheerios involved in that plastic bowl horror.

veggie-rhea with a blended vomit head?

Once went to a student house party, this was around the time the siege at the Church of the Nativity was ending, 200 people trapped in a tiny Church for 2 months must have been pretty squalid, I reckon this student house was worse.

dude

i am way cleaner than i used to be, but wow

and this is coming from a guy who had one overreacting friend stage a completely serious pseudointervention for FB and i because he thought that our garbage house was perhaps indicative of some deeper seated psychological problem.

I felt bad. We have too many boxes of stuff and not enough shelving....now I see this stuff and feel better.

I have no idea why Michigan students seemed to be so fucking horrible at housecleaning.

lol I went to Michigan for my undergrad. I have witnessed some spectacles about on par with rabies' (& perhaps what you're describing, though that sounds like a particularly special case) but thankfully never lived in such squalor. I learned my lesson during my first year, when I lived in a house with 7 other people & saw the potential for this sort of thing. After that, I made sure never to live with more than two roomates at a time. Dunno if its a Michigan thing; it seems to be a pretty-much universal US college phenomenon.

I had some friends back then (about 10 of them or so) who rented a big house for their senior year & made an agreement beforehand that they were not going to expect to reclaim any of their security deposit. I wish I had some photos of their place from right before they moved out. It wasn't so much gross (though it was that), as it was comically destroyed.

Pictures makin' me nostalgic for a simpler, more stoned time.

I thought my place got bad last year when I was depressed and not cleaning up a lot - my ex had moved out and left the spare room full of rubbish and piles of boxes and it really was terrible, the carpet was covered in cat fur and cig ash and the walls were stained...

..and then I went to visit said ex in his new tiny studio apoartment and his bathroom floor seems to have actual DIRT on it and there is crap everywehere inc dirty plates under coffee tables.

But even that is nothing compared to this Withnail-esque horror.

As a smoker though I'd like to say not all smokers are filthy slobs - I still smoke and my new home is kept very well and I dont smoke indoors any more.

I can understand how easy it is to let things get this bad mind you. I really can. But thats when I live alone and think "eh, no one else visits so who cares?". If I lived with OTHER people who did this, I think I'd kill a bitch.

It's not universal - I lived with eight other people in a house my senior year and at worst there were a few beer bottles and newspapers in the living room. The sink was never full for more than a weekend (it'd be nice to say "more than a day," but when any of the guys' turns fell on a weekend they'd "forget").

Trayce OTM - isn't there an incentive to clean up so your roommates don't hate you? I've definitely been cleaner when sharing a room than when living alone, just out of guilt and fear!

the only thing that's dirty in my house is the carpets. they're covered in black lint that's rubbed off people's socks and doesn't seem to be hoovered off. so we have to scrub it all off with carpet shampoo or something, but nobody can be arsed doing that. the best way to stop rooms getting messy is just to have bins everywhere. i have two in my room alone.

╓abies, I love that there's a muffin tin near the sink, like someone tried to make muffins in that kitchen once. Do you remember when that was?

I keep thinkig of the kitchen scene from Withnail & I... "whats that in the sink? .... MATTER?! Oh god it's eaten through the dinner service!"

So wait, what's the point of this thread again?

coming clean

ISTR you only moved into this place less than six months ago rabies - was it this bad then? If so ew ew why'd you move in... if not wwahhhhh^&%^$.

i would not stand for 5% of that mess

are you putting your feet down, rabes?

wear wellingtons first

that's gumboots to you

dude, rabies, six of you should be able to have that place clean in like an hour -- most of it is just a matter of bagging up all the cans/bottles/boxes and throwing everything out. One guy on dishes and everyone else bags/takes out trash/scours surfaces. just do it

do not volunteer to be the guy assigned to dishes

yeah, FUCK that job

although its the kind of thing where i wouldn't trust anyone else's work either

i'd volunteer for dishes, on the condition that the others should come help in the kitchen if they finished everything else first. at least with dishes you know what to do - with a mess that big in the living room, i'd probably just stand there, not knowing what to start with and where to put it all.

yeah, i always volunteer for dish duty in these situations

whatever you do just wear gloves while you do it

yeah, I like dish duty because I get overwhelmed/paralyzed by massive messes (although bagging up a lot of trash is about as easy as big-mess cleanup gets)

you can always switch off on dishes if no one is amenable

Hahaha, one of the roommates was saw this thread this morning and didn't immediately realize it was our place or that I had posted it. Took a moment for the tidal wave or recognition to hit her. We talked and resolved to clean when everyone got home.

It's much nicer now. Still needs a good vacuuming, and people are going to take the recycling tomorrow.

Whew.

Oh, and BigLurks took on dishes duty. ha ha ha

We've also resolved never to live like this again. At least after we move.

One of my ex-landlords owned three houses - the place where he lived with his family, the place we rented, and another place. This third house was occupied by law students and was the biggest tip imaginable. I got to see it after all the occupants had moved out. We thought that our student place was bad - rats came inside the house because the interior was a bigger mess than the garbage pile out in the back yard. But this law student place was unbelievable - I think all of them must have been smokers or something. There was so much stuff piled in the kitchen, especially on the worktops, that I couldn't tell where the sink was.

With 6 people you could easily have afforded to have yr home cleaned once a month.

You can get someone to clean house for $50-60 for 2 or 3 hours, and split 6 ways that's the price of a beer or two at the bar. DO. IT. Once a month, someone will wash stray dishes, disinfect the bathroom, etc, so you get to start fresh even if people have been a little lazy.

I despise cleaning rotations (even though I'm usually the one scrubbing the floors voluntarily on a Sunday morning) because I refuse to deal with people watching me, waiting for me to do as I've been told, and that's how cleaning rosters always end up. Plus there's always one person who thinks "clean bathroom" means "give it a spritz of Windex and hurry off to brunch" and then wants to know why you didn't do YOUR chore yet.

thank you, this thread made me feel better about my perpetually messy bedroom!

i have actually cleaned since this photo was taken. still pretty messy in here, but i'm no longer afraid of having guests to the house.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/Mandalion/012.jpg

Nice! I was hoping for more outside contributions.

(xpost) have you have a burglary or something?

that's how my bedroom usually looks! i like your dresser and mirror.

kind of funny that on the same day as the "passive-aggressive housemates" thread revival, this thread inspires poster's housemates to start cleaning....

Haha, er, this thread wasn't so much passive aggressive as...I mean, we'd talked before about needing to get together and clean sometime soon, but contextualizing it in picture form and posting on ilx was sort of the wake up call for how bad it'd really become.

This thread made me clean the two worst rooms in my home yesterday.

this thread made me shower

Oh my god. This . . . there is just . . . I'm so glad you cleaned! I am not a neat freak by any means but those pics actually made me feel a little sick.

Clearing up can have it's dangers...

...so be careful now.

although its the kind of thing where i wouldn't trust anyone else's work either

― roxymuzak, Monday, December 1, 2008 6:04 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^ otm on dish duty :(

i'm so glad it all got cleaned up.

Haha Mandee thats kind of how my bedroom's starting to look atm :/ Its the one room I am a bit of a slob in, I chuck all my clothes all over the floor. In fairness we only moved in 6 months ago and I *still* havent completely unpacked/sorted/thrown out stuff.

thank you for making me feel better about my life.

― Matt P, Sunday, November 30, 2008 10:54 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― schwww im tired (harbl), Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:12 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

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http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/9513/imageuploadimageoi8.jpg

(not mine)

i am having frantic cleaning time because friend is coming to stay here last minute! oy! still not as bad as anything on this thread, but man, i have too much crap. or at least need to get some shelves.

HAM

Robinsons' Mincemeat
lonely can of lavender air freshner
"Nothing sucks like an Electrolux" ...except perhaps living knee deep in filth.

i, too, had a cleaning spree on dec 1st after reading this thread

I got so fed up of Emma leaving nail polish and hand cream on the shelves in the living room that I bought her a Componibili to put her shit in. This house... makes me feel ill. I didn't live like that when I was a student, even when I lived with the awful football boys.

depressing

componibili:

http://www.componibili.co.uk/images/compo1.gif

pretty cute!

It looks sentient! HAI I STORE ALL YOUR THINGS

my house was so completely fucked a month ago that i got impromptu eviction and was forced to move out within 24 hours with the threat of lawsuit. it wasn't my fault though i swear. via some kind of fucking miracle i managed to clean all of it out and find a new place to live all in like 6 hours!

omg sam, is it even legal for them to do that?

no, i mean it wasn't a technical eviction. more like a "get the fuck out or i will sue you".

wow, how bad was it?

looked pretty much just like the photos up-thread.
...while moving out i found a CAT in my closet.

uh

a LIVING cat?

haha yes.

phew

Anyone in this bitch have experience with relatives living in squalor? My mother is in appalling conditions, made excuses when my sister and I tried to address it, and brushed off offers of help. NOT NOT NOT looking forward to the next confrontation.

i was in a pretty bad situation a few years ago - nothing like the above pictures - but we had fruit flies and stuff. the way to deal with it is just to throw shit out. don't do those dishes, go get yourself a few lawn and leaf bags and just throw the dishes in the trash. buy paper plates if you must, but honestly it doesn't seem like any of you are missing having dishes if they've been in the sink that long.

After you throw everything out and then dust, sweep, vacuum, you will feel so much better about life. that shit could be cleaned up in hours, I bet.

and if you do, i think i speak for everyone on this thread when i say we want some 'after' pictures. shit is making me feel all OCD just looking at it.

I don't know what to tell you, j.lu.

I have an older relative who lives in a mess. When I ask her if she's ready to move somewhere else, she protests that she'd have to clean everything up first.

gah years ago a friend of mine lived in that sort of situation - one day i was over there and in some weird uncharacteristic fit i couldnt take it any more and i just grabbed a garbage bag and started collecting all the trash - the roommates feeling guilty no doubt joined in and we threw away like 20 bags full of crap - of course a week later the place was completely destroyed again

― ice cr?m, Sunday, 30 November 2008 17:16 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

^^maybe this? j.lu

The first step is getting them to admit they have a problem, which alcoholics and heroin addicts seem to have an easier time of doing than chronic hoarders who live in squalor.