DC--> NY plane crash?

anyone heard anything?

CNN has this:

US Airways flight 1549 goes down in Hudson River

bird strike, apparently

yeah, not DC --> NY

took off from LGA

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numSlides of totalImages A U.S. Airways airplane has crashed into the Hudson River, CBS 2 has learned. The plane appears to be in one piece and passengers are being evaucated by rescue teams.

Officials tell CBS 2 the airplane is Flight 1549, an Airbus 380 that took off from La Guardia Aiport. There are reports that there were about 60 people on board.

There is no word on injuries to passengers.

The plane is floating upright in the water near the USS Intrepid.

NY Times:

Watercraft are converging on a USAirways plane that is half-submerged in the Hudson River off the West 50’s of Manhattan.

According to Channel 4 television news, the plane apparently took off from LaGuardia Airport and was bound for Charlotte, N.C. and had 146 passengers and 5 crew members. The plane, according to the news report, may have hit a flock of birds. The pilot tried to return to the airport when the plane fell into the Hudson.

Television reports show several ferry boats right around where the plane is mostly submerged in the water.

One witness interviewed by Channel 4 said he saw the plane decending steadily without its landing gear down.

the water is very very cold.

srsly

Can you imagine?

Here's a dumb question: How deep is the Hudson?

yeah, if you dont believe me, check out for yourself

oh damn!

zeno, are you liveblogging from the crashsite?

It just dipped below.

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/58432/original.jpg

lol dont worry people just walked out the wings onto waiting ferries

Alternate ending to The Dark Knight

lucky people

That is just super fucked up.

...that got onto the wings first, i mean

its still a lil above water btw - im watching ny1

MSNBC is saying its all the way under.

pilot gets props for a nice landing

Chinatown bus roolz

dude i can see it on the tv

how buoyant is an african swallow airbus A320

I honestly can't recall the last time I saw any geese -- Canadian or otherwise -- flyin' around Manhattan, but fuck do i know.

http://static.10gen.com/alleyinsider.com/~~/f?id=496fa35630b7d980006b4519&maxX=600&maxY=800

so you are saying it is terrorists or aliens, then?

wow!

btw i hate these little planes and have wondered abt hitting flocks of birds before

all the channels im on dont show a plane so i think it's submerged

should have took that thing down on the westside hwy

it was a Charlotte-bound flight

MSNBC appears to be wrong, unless CNN and NY1's video is old

btw how the fuck would a FLOCK OF BRDS take down a plane?

this is like one of those things that they always prepare you for before takeoff and people are like, lol whatever this never happens

ny1 is showing the nose of the plane still above water it says "live"

^omg yeah xp

an A320 is not a little plane

MSNBC wrong?? SURELY YOU JEST, SIR!

Who knows -- it's one of those news events where people are just blathering on to fill up air-time until actual statistics come in.

http://i39.tinypic.com/3bm2g.jpg

if they are sucked into the engine, very easily.

xpost

cnn, fox news, msnbc, cnbc all show (don't show) it submerged

the nose and tail of the plane are still above water, but the view may be obstructed by boats

if things were so fucked that the pilot couldn't get to newark or back to lga, then it's a pretty good job putting it down in the river rather than in manhattan

eye witness is saying the plane landed just like it would on a runway except ON THE WATER

i hope everyones ok! it would suck to be the single fatality

they teach the flight attendants Ditching procedure, if they are well trained, and the plane didnt get unerwatewr till now, most people should be saved

the nose is hard to see cause its surrounded by boats

"it would suck to be the single fatality"

The current live shot on MSNBC is now too far back to tell. Whatevs. I just see boats at this point.

yeah cnn is circling something, prob the plane

waht is life expectancy in water when the air temp is 20 F

i would not be surprised if ny1s feed was late cause lol ny1

water temp is about 42 F

they're all on the ferry drinking hot choglits by now

someone on abc is saying the plane has been towed??

lol @ omar little, that's always me: "Yeah, 'water landing' my ass!"

that's some landing, wow

really want to do obv. variation on "good luck usa" but too soon

no fatalities reported

"zeno, are you liveblogging from the crashsite?

― cutty, 20:58 יום חמישי 15 ינואר 2009 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink"

http://science.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/Science/Images/Content/polar-bear-club-963811-sw.jpg

Those people are very lucky. Thank fuck.

Well done the pilot on the landing

lol r u livebloggin from the bible?

http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/000/470/0000047016_350.jpg

here is a breaking news clip of the crash

mookie beat me to it

cnn is interviewing a passenger btw guys

pilot deserves a beer.

http://i.current.com/images/asset/892/512/44/ZhOTsc.jpg

i study that shit every time i get on a plane

http://www.remotecentral.com/dvd/airplane-3.jpg

i always lol at that shit like yah right water landing more like WATERY DEATH - learn something new everyday

Yeah, I don't want to use the word "lucky," but this sounds like some pretty top-north disaster-avoidance! If your plane's faltering over NYC, you can't ask for better than a smooth landing on a rare bit of water with loads and loads of boats, ferries, and emergency services waiting nearby.

have to settle for this
http://991.com/newgallery/Buffalo-Springfield-Expecting-To-Fly-86487.jpg

this is why i hate planes

i remember seeing some footage of a passenger jet doing a water landing and basically breaking in two and i guess half the people on that plane died so i always assumed that was some best case scenario kind of thing

a reporter for ny1 is saying he saw the plane all on fire flying above the bronx

hahahaahhaaha

my dad hit a bird once with the family car -- u are safe nowhere my friend

how is this dude talking in complete sentences right now though, amazing

omg the reporter took video of the plane on fire

btw it is still not underwater

it is being towed

planes are made out of sponges, usually

http://www.whenbirdsattack.com/wba/

"why don't they make the whole plane out of that" etc

plane was bound for charlotte and everyone survived officially now

nice

"too soon," but someone needs to make a mashup of Airplane and Winged Migration

http://i39.tinypic.com/3bm2g.jpg

"WELCOME TO NEW JERSEY"

first class gets the first boat

^_^ (xp)

you figure there'll be a video soon, right?

"boat"

the government is now saying the birds are not terrorists

When you fly Southwest, say from Little Rock to Dallas, the stewardesses like to get all cutsey and say things like "Should we have an emergency water landing, say IN EAST TEXAS WHERE IT'S DRY AS A BONE..." and all the passengers laugh.

Well, who's laughing today.

supposedly there's video taken from washington heights of the plane going down with flames coming out of one of the engines.

the heights got the fire.

the heights got the fire.

eye witness is saying the plane landed just like it would on a runway except ON THE WATER

― ice cr?m, Thursday, January 15, 2009 4:06 PM (16 minutes ago)

this is true btw!!

i feel like it was LOUD tho

"Are we going to crash?"
"Nah. We're just going to land the plane like we would on a runway except the pilot's going to do it ON THE WATER."

"I feel better already."

what did u see it schef

lol my office is on the river and it crashed a few blocks north of us O_o

we've got enormous windows and a 360 huge view of everything so we just been watching the evacuation and the plane kinda sinking and then not sinking.

WOW dude

a couple ppl in window offices were like OH NO A PLANE IS GOING TO HIT ME AAAAGGGGH which was a little over-reactive, but that caught ppl's attention to go look at this so i have to thank them really.

irl lol

shouldn't they have been working instead of looking out the window

like how did they know it was coming

the boats are kinda blockin things now tho so i went back to working but no one else is doing this so i might go back to staring.

xpost i wonder that too, mookieproof

lonely managers just thinkin baout stuff

every office building in nyc now has a designated "plane watcher"

if it was loud, i slept through it!

i remember seeing some footage of a passenger jet doing a water landing and basically breaking in two and i guess half the people on that plane died so i always assumed that was some best case scenario kind of thing

― shook pwns (omar little), Thursday, January 15, 2009 3:16 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

drivers are advised to avoid the west side highway fyi

lol it is a MESS on the highway and the vicinity right now.

this whole event is putting hipsters in perspective for me...thinking about what's important...

wonder if there were any hipsters aboard

if it just took off i guess it wasn't going too fast cause i heard water landings in a jumbo jet are pretty much bullshit

where is tombot with my science

you know what an emo guy is? a hipster who's been in a water landing.

wonder if there were any hipsters aboard

US Airways is so NOT a hipster airline

yeah, it couldn't have been very high up at all either since it just took off from lga

xpost dr morbius i'm shaking my head at you

"It was scary as shit"
--Jeff

^^ real talk

hipsters don't fly usairways
ha xpost

i heard water landings in a jumbo jet are pretty much bullshit

well obviously not

omar thread mvp at this point btw

the ny1 lady just said upon hearing that the plane maybe only hit A bird "if one bird can cause so much damage god help us..."

this is such crazy shit. i'm also one of those people who's like "c'mon, if we crash into the water we're all going to die, i don't need to pay attention to this evacuation stuff"

I'm kinda bummed that the anchors on NBC feel like they have to excuse Jeff for saying something like "It was scary as shit" because ooo FCC curse words children, etc

schef as long as yr not singing Toto's "Africa"

well, bush IS still in charge and his folks @ the FCC go apeshit over naughty words

radio reports people being treated for exposure, not hypothermia

is the thing definitely being towed or just floating downstream?

apparently the ny1 one guy who took footage of the flaming plane above the bronx was AT THE ZOO

lol this angel dude

zoo york amirite

theres def a cable connecting a boat and the plane cant be sure it being towed tho

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/USA1549

this plane is going to appear on craigslist. "slight water damage."

Your life-jacket can be found under your seat, but please do not remove it now. In fact, do not bother to look for it at all. In the event of a landing on water, an unprecedented miracle will have occurred, because in the history of aviation the number of wide-bodied aircraft that have made successful landings on water is zero. This aircraft is equipped with inflatable slides that detach to form life rafts, not that it makes any difference. Please remove high-heeled shoes before using the slides. We might as well add that space helmets and anti-gravity belts should also be removed, since even to mention the use of the slides as rafts is to enter the realm of science fiction.

The Economist, 7 September 06

"if one bird can cause so much damage god help us..."

http://thisdistractedglobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/The%20Birds%20Alfred%20Hitchcock%20Tippi%20Hedren%20pic%202.jpg

ny1 is reporting some people were all o no this is starting to feel like 9/11

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE1549/history/20090115/2026Z/KLGA/KLGA/tracklog

who the fuck is at a zoo on a thursday is the real question here AND DON'T SAY PPL WHO WORK THERE

"Arrived over an hour ago"

orly

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/USA1549

"Arrived over an hour ago"

haha

Woah. If you're gonna be in a crash, be in the one with all survivors. O_o

statistically, don't think there have been many fatalities from planned plane ditching

did anyone die here?

Apparently everyone was rescued.

OMG @ ARRIVED AN HOUR AGO

he was maybe covering a story abt a baby tiger or whatnot?? xp

haha, wow

Aircraft Airbus A320 (twin-jet) (A320/Q)
Origin La Guardia (KLGA)
Destination La Guardia (KLGA)
Other flights between these airports
Route BIGGY J75 GVE LYH SUDSY3 (Decode)
Date Thursday, Jan 15, 2009
Duration 6 minutes
Status Arrived over an hour ago (track log)

xp

par for the course for US Airways o_O

Origin La Guardia (KLGA)
Destination La Guardia (KLGA)

yeah, if you're gonna be in a plane crash you want to be ditching into water

A320 is not a wide-body fwiw

Destination Hudson (HUD)

xpost

wau at the altitude readings in the tracklog

lol @ the altitude column

xp

obv ditching /= crashing

Duration 6 minutes

Does the airline compensate people's lost laptops?

oic

^^^crashing, not ditching

why are they calling the flight "diverted"

"diverted...into the river lol"

FWIW I've been to the Bronx Zoo on a Thursday U_U

GET A JOB

(kidding)

jmod r u a hipster?

U_U

I work in "media"

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/58437/thumbs/s-BIRD-STRIKE-large.jpg

the people on that plane are gonna drink like motherfuckers tonight

Is this plane floating?

now that's it all over and the people are saved.
"Won't someone PLEASE think of the birds!"
http://www.lovehkfilm.com/blog/juiyinjong/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/helen_lovejoy_symp.jpg

the people on that plane are gonna drinking like motherfuckers tonight

or the fish

pigeons are space kittens.

also maybe buying sex from an fancy prostitute

Can't wait to watch President's speech tonight with picture-in-picture of a plane floating in the Hudson beside him.

http://www.gruntdoc.com/pics/BirdStrike4.jpg

this shit is going to cut in to 30 rock, innit?

how the hell am i going to get home

lol the helicopter cameraman on the abcnews video can't find the crash site and keeps zooming in random boats in the water

what is hipster runoff's take on the emerging news?

I'm interested in finding out what the bird was thinking...

"Oh it's no big deal... I can ma--"

how the hell am i going to get home

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, January 15, 2009 9:52 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/01/14/flying.car/index.html

http://majorlyenglish.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/fabiogoose.jpg

Bush on an ordinary day funnier than Tina Fey's entire career

what about paying a visit to your ex-coworkers?!?

or this:

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/timewasters/SilverJetpack.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d164/padawansguide/promoimages/rocketeer.jpg

an eye witness is bragging abt how he told his fellow passengers "not to panic" - pffft fuckin herb

sorry a passenger on the plane not an eye witness

lol i was gonna say, easy for him to say

A+ this thread

i like the idea about just some dude at the javitz or something screaming across the river "DON'T PANIC, JUST DON'T PANIC"

lol yelling at the plane - how did YOU help ally

so how does this not happen all the time? do they track or check for bird migrations, or just cross their fingers on take off & landing?

they def do stuff to keep birds away from airports

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080721/fearless_l.jpg

DON'T PANIC

http://www.2wallpaper.com/weirdspot/bird_cat.jpg

Kitten Birds!

i didn't help but otoh i'm not on ny1

at least not for this

you should be!

one time i called ny1 to complain abt my plane being on the tarmac for 9 hours and then never taking off - fyi it was featured on ny1

i was not on ny1 tho cause i went home to sleep :/

this is DEF going to interrupt 30 rock

i'm so glad you made it off that plane xp

maybe i will walk down tehre and go look for ny1

ny1 is an amzing channel i dont know why i dont watch it more - i especially like the show where they read the paper

tell them you saw a flock of birds intentionally veer into the plane. "it's like they tried to crash it."

an eye witness is bragging abt how he told his fellow passengers "not to panic"
http://www.battlefield-site.co.uk/lance_corporal_jones.gif

we don't get NY1 in NJ ... i have to be @ work to see it ;_;

"hospital - 4 passengers being treated for hypothermia"

it stands for New York 1

Update: Reports are that the plane is being towed to Chelsea Piers. And the plane was scheduled to head to Seattle after Charlotte. And a caller told NBC New York, "I saw it hit the river. It just came crashing down into the river. I was wondering why it came down so low; there's no airport around here."

granted, i dont know shit about engineering but is there no way in 09 to make sure that if a bird gets near an engine it isn't able to go inside? there can't be a screen over the engine or something? idk this just seems preventable in this day i'd think

it's true, there are no airports anywhere within a 100 mile radius of the hudson river, i don't know why you're questioning that you bx zoo hipster

fyi there are some pretty choice ny1 jokes on how i met your mother

you ever put one of those wire things over your drain to catch the shit that comes out of your pots? yeah it wouldn't work

a friend of mine just told me that he took this flight a lot when he used to go to school in carolina...yikes

i hope when they get the train to chelsea piers they figure out some way to turn it into a sporting arena for indoor hipsters, maybe it can have a giant shuffleboard installed inside.

Kudos to the pilot. And kudos to the NY Waterways ferry guys- seems like it went down right across from the big pier 70whatever ferry terminal and they were all over it really quickly.

We can only see the east river from my office but everyone was looking out our west windows anyway.

waht is life expectancy in water when the air temp is 20 F

As noted, the water temp is a bit higher, but not too long. I've had hypothermia in 50 F water, and it happens much faster than you think. Also at the time you don't realize it because your brain slows down so much. Hard to describe, like taking too much decongestant, you think super slowly and just really have no ability to move your arms or anything.

LIVE tonight on the hudson:

Bush on an ordinary day funnier than Tina Fey's entire career

is that why he's on at 8 tonite?

i see what you did ther.

granted, i dont know shit about engineering but is there no way in 09 to make sure that if a bird gets near an engine it isn't able to go inside? there can't be a screen over the engine or something? idk this just seems preventable in this day i'd think

just as an FYI, birds are "kings" of the sky, and we have to defer to their wishes, and right now most of the birds are pretty staunchly anti-regulation--who knows what will happen after this

mike score caused the plane to crash?!?

i guess he was pissed that he couldn't find any sad clown porn in NYC or something

Gothamist: Update 5:11 p.m.: Coast Guard says about 60 passengers were in the water when they were rescued.
http://gothamist.com/2009/01/15/plane_crash_in_hudson.php

did they get the rescue slides life rafts deployed? in photos i saw the front rafts at least... 160ish people is a lot of people to cram onto the wings and into the front rafts.

all yr airplanes r belong to us

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00213/F_200705_May15ED_IM_213611a.jpg

no full-size airliner could survive a landing on water fwiw, and none has, this plane was just small enough

http://www3.timeoutny.com/newyork/tonyblog/?p=8935

^^^ boats eventually obscured view as you can see here, i don't see why they had to get in the way like that

also, are they gonna send in the police divers to save ppls stuff

A bird or several birds entered engines on both sides of the plane, or a “double bird” in the jargon of safety workers. It is not clear where the plane hit the birds.

RIGHT IN THE FUCKING FACE, NEW YORK TIMES.

http://www.funny-potato.com/images/planes/bird-plane.jpg

i don't see why they had to get in the way like that

Weren't they picking up folks from the wings of the plane?

it's over your head, I know

http://static.flickr.com/30/53279450_1ff919a9a0_m.jpg

a “double bird” in the jargon of safety workers

lol they are finally showing the ny1 zoo footage and u cannot see any flames coming out the plane what bullshit

has anyone consulted shaq's twitter to see what he has to say about the incident?

(xpost) So they were (gasp) lying! I've never heard of NY1 before this thread, but it's nice to know that bullshit TV news reporting happens elsewhere besides ITN.

I met a twitterer from twitter nation n da apple store n denver, im buyin headphones about 21 hours ago from txt

you can add flames to gifs, or so i hear, if you need to see flames

blingee fire

"Bernie macs last movie soul man is the funniest movie ever, im watchn it now n denver about 18 hours ago from txt"

:\

hopefully the response to this incident will be measured, i'm fearful that fox news and the like will start calling for more bird extinctions.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2009/01/grego_plane.jpg

aw lil guy

are they gonna pull this thing into the wfc marina?

chelsea piers dude

knowing all you NYC hipsters, that plane will be a nightclub in Chelsea by next week

we already have a plane bar

or had, at least

http://www.birdstrike.org/commlink/signif.htm

maybe turn it into a literacy center since you guys don't know how to read

i already told you, they should turn it into a shuffleboard

u guys dont fight jeez here ill release some more birds to crash another plane ok

okay i will meet your demands al icey

who is fighting, i think there is room for both literacy and shuffleboard you know

8 April 2008. Shortly after departure, a Challenger 600 suffered multiple, large bird strikes (American white pelicans) at 3,000 feet AGL. One bird penetrated the nose area just below the windshield and continued through the forward cockpit bulkhead. Bird remains were sprayed throughout the cockpit. No injuries reported. Both engines ingested at least 1 bird. The #1 engine had fan damage: the #2 engine lost power and had a dented inlet lip. ID by Smithsonian, Division of Birds. NTSB investigated. Cost exceeded $2 million.

no don't get the terrorist mad, he will release his Big Bird

jesus xp

wait--pelicans?!

Initial findings suggest that the chances of a successful dirty bird attack are about 10–40%.

BIRDS

the crash was near 14th street, xp

omg they are interviews=ing some horrible shithead who opened with and i quote "you know living here post 9/1 on the upper west..."

9/11 obv

a “double bird” in the jargon of safety workers
http://www.herecomestheboss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/bigbird.jpg

who knew pelicans can roll at 3,000 feet

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now hes bragging abt how he saw it first and some other people all asked him omg is that a plane and he was yah duh its a plane where have u been then he took a picture w/his phone

whoops

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y79LFAG4Fo

haha guys CNN says that the pilot goes by SULLY

GULLY more like it

tru

apparently plane was ordered to teterboro? which would make sense for something coming off of Runway 4 at LGA.

to be fair, I think that if anything really really changed on 9/11, it is what would immediately run through the heads of New Yorkers if they saw a plane descending dramatically low right next to Manhattan

BLOOMBERG LIVE

bloomberg just shhushed everyone

in an encore appearance today, lol

now i'm bored with this

yah mee too i want a burrito but its too cold outside

http://clipperpioneer.com/birdBurrito5.png

dude just call and have them bring a burrito to you -- this is what i normally do

well lol actually i make someone else call and just get in on that order

BBC News 24 has just captioned Senator Schumer as "Mark Hughes, Manchester City manager" and Mayor Bloomberg as "Joe Kinnear, Newcastle manager"

gah bloomberg u r the lamest guy in the world fu

the burrito i want wont come to me :( i could get a diff one i guess

there are decent enchiladas that will come to you but it's not the same thing :(

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2315/2305738968_9461cd6373.jpg

yah the calexico enchiladas i believe we have discussed them they are good

that picture is the literal embodiment of O_O

you should not go to the burritos/enchiladas, let them come to you

pelicans at 3,000 feet is nothing; Egyptian Geese have been recorded at TWELVE MILES up in the air

that is practically in space btw

a sad day for ornithologists everywhere ;_;

ugh lady u r an idiot re: terrorism question

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f6/Ditching_of_Ethiopian_Airlines_Flt_961.JPG

4 posterity

http://i42.tinypic.com/242u4hw.jpg

route: BIGGY J75

plane is at BPC

i didnt know lj was a bird enthusiast

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3467/3200212112_6f171a70d3_o.jpg

All-New Ornithology Thread

lol that sorta makes me like him

Umm James I think an important point of comparison there is that flight 961 didn't turn out nearly as well

i didnt know lj was a bird enthusiast

lol britishes

Looking to get right back into it after finishing college. Got the new updated bird guide and all.

Because they've changed the design of all the birds since the first one?

gotta find out what new birds are coming out in '09

Oh, so it's like playing Madden then?

climate change has effected so many range alterations since 1993, you wouldn't believe

Yeah, good timing:

Airbus is preparing to offer incoming US president Barack Obama a special A380 superjumbo to replace the ageing Air Force One Boeing 747 jumbo jet, it emerged today.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/jan/15/airbus-obama-380-superjumbo

Ha, was just coming to post that!

this was not an A380. not that the type of the plane or the manufacturer was relevant in this accident.

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/dca0012l.jpg

^^^ inside job btw

this med student dork on CNN is making me embarrassed

Smoking Gun has the Captain's resume. Let's just say that if you're on an airplane and anything goes wrong, this is the guy you want.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0115093hero1.html

pilot described in the daily news as a "stud" and a "rock star" by police source:

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/01/16/amd_sullenberger.jpg

Yeah essentially that is what i want a pilot to look like.

pilot described in the daily news as a "stud" and a "rock star" by police source

i could see him playing a keytar in a bar band somewhere ...

michelle malkin posted this story on her site and commenters were basically thanking God he didn't lose his pilot's license to affirmative action, zinging him for being a visiting scholar at berkeley, and saying 'god wasn't his co-pilot, god today took flying lessons from him.'

If you go to http://www4.passur.com/lga.html and search to about 15:26pm, you'll see the flight. He gets up to around 3400 feet, and then makes an immediate 180 trying to get back to La Guardia. Seeing that was impossible, he headed for the Hudson, and very nearly collided with a Eurocopter flying north at 1000 feet along the river. The copter pilot dodged out of the way, then circled back to where the plane hit the water.

sully's cell prefix is 925, making him a bay area resident

feel kinda bad for the birds...

Godsquad invading comments boards everywhere Thanking Him for saving these people and helping the pilot. Would have saved Him a lot of bother if He had just moved the birds out of the way.

he must've been feeling especially good about gay sex yesterday

i have the today show on and apparently this is the only thing that happened yesterday

ya i mean if there had been fatalities then major news story sure but the british papers have this all over the first 4-5-6 pages when actually the entire story would be best served by youtube publication and sully.jpg alone

looked to be only about 700ft between the jet and the helicopter o_O

tht coulda been bad

it's a pretty big deal lj, all air crashes are pretty big news

an air crash on american soil, in new york going to be doubly big news

dude there was a fatal crash in NYC (200 or so dead) about 10 months after 9/11 and once they established it wasn't terrorist there was an eerie media silence

and it's insincere to pretend that the british media treat all air crashes equally, aeroflot send one down seemingly every other week and sometimes it gets a leading article on page 7

basically blah miracle blah amazing SHOW ME THE YOUTUBE

^^real talk, unfortunately xposts to lj's first

just waiting for 4chan to impact-font-subtitle sully.jpg with something like AIRLINE PILOTS...LOOK AT THIS AWESOME MOTHERFUCKER or whatever

it's definitely a big story but except for occasional weather updates they spent literally the entire first hour of the today show on this story

i don't know i think the fact that an airliner full of people crashed in a fucking river and everyone survived is worth taking a day off from 'news of importance' to celebrate.

where is the video of it landing tho - how can this not exist

^^^

i don't know i think the fact that an airliner full of people crashed in a fucking river and everyone survived is worth taking a day off from 'news of importance' to celebrate.

― the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Friday, 16 January 2009 14:05 (22 minutes ago)

I'll go with this, I think. I think it's a pretty fucking amazing story.

yeah i'm just being a dick, the today show never has any news on it anyways

The alternative 'stories' are Obama Takes Oath in 4 Days and Israel -- Whaddya Gonna Do?

CNN was great last night: Look at this fucking amazing plane crash where nobody dies! Look at it! And oh yeah, George Bush ruins everybody's TiVO one last time to brag about making the wrong decisions again.

NOw here's a guy who's an expert on gremlins...

i believe the plane was planted in the ocean a la LOST and this was just a ploy to distract us from the conflict in gaza

heard it ws a viral for new season of LOST

can ne1 confirm?

dude there was a fatal crash in NYC (200 or so dead) about 10 months after 9/11 and once they established it wasn't terrorist there was an eerie media silence

American Airlines 587, crashed in Queens, and it was only 2 months later, November 12, 2001.

WSJ's frequent flier blog has an amazing set of photos: http://blogs.wsj.com/middleseat/2009/01/15/us-airways-splashdown-in-new-york-pictures/

wait did gremlins cause the plane crash?

http://www.greenballoon.net/uploaded_images/shatner_twilight_zone-719871.jpg

Guy on the right looks amazed at Shatner's bad acting...

Great photos, but the first thing that popped into my head when I saw the one of the aircraft listing/sinking was wether or not there were any pets in the cargo hold.
Comment by God Bless any Pets as Well - January 16, 2009 at 11:11 am

Well. So much for the feel-good story of the year.

http://www.theygay.com/images/celebs/debbie.bmp

Guy on the right looks amazed at Shatner's bad acting...

― snoball, Friday, January 16, 2009 4:08 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark

^^ oh man so rong

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1928/90/60/1485520053/n1485520053_30168835_3608.jpg

just waiting for 4chan to impact-font-subtitle sully.jpg with something like AIRLINE PILOTS...LOOK AT THIS AWESOME MOTHERFUCKER or whatever

― single-issue white nonhipster (country matters), Friday, 16 January 2009 13:55 (9 hours ago) Bookmark

times new roman/arial, forgot that's how they did it

I thought of u when I saw that pic, louis

maybe the first officer was flying. DID ANYONE CONSIDER THAT POSSIBILITY?

Wild guess:

- Bird-hit plane circles and ditches in empty field outside Omaha = low-to-moderate news coverage

- Bird-hit plane circles and ditches in strip of river immediately alongside the most densely populated bit of the country, which also happens to be a media center and just generally looms large in the consciousness of people both at home and abroad, giving the whole thing something of the look of a film thriller = lots of news coverage

(Apologies if there is some more densely populated bit of the country I'm forgetting, but you know what I mean)

the visuals are key here. take away the visuals and this story gets a quarter the attention.

everyone would have died if it ditched in a field in Omaha, no rescue ferries.

Population density for selected U.S. cities
Place Government type Density
Manhattan, New York Borough & County 25,850/km² 66,940/mi²
Guttenberg, New Jersey Town 21,961/km² 56,012/mi²
Union City, New Jersey City 20,454/km² 52,978/mi²
West New York, New Jersey Town 17,124/km² 44,352/mi²
Edgewater, Illinois 13,800/km² 35,743/mi²)
Brooklyn, New York Borough & County 13,481/km² 34,917/mi²
The Bronx, New York Borough & County 12,242/km² 31,709/mi²
Hoboken, New Jersey City 11,675/km² 30,239/mi²
Back Bay/Beacon Hill, Massachusetts 11,463/km² 29,690/mi²)
New York City, New York City 10,194/km² 26,403/mi²

the visuals were all fucked up by those boats in the way, tho

they would have been better in a field, w/o boats

the visuals are key here. take away the visuals and this story gets a quarter the attention.

this goes for every news story ever, afaik

^^^
indeed

beacon hill is a tiny neighborhood wtf

well it's population density, so population/area

right?

Okay, the Hudson is a tiny strip amid several of the most densely populated bits of the country, making it both a noteworthy and weirdly convenient place to ditch a plane.

a little too convenient if you ask me.

everyone would have died if it ditched in a field in Omaha, no rescue ferries.

um they wouldn't have needed boats then, they could have just gotten off the plane.

and sunk into the soft dirt. wake up, jordan.

nabisco, i was backing up your OTM there

Jordan why do you want America to have no heroes?

you can land a large a plane in a field without everyone dying

apparently lga is supposed to be more prone to birdstrike given marshes in the area. i would think that applies more to jfk.

guys if it ditched out over a field #1 bro sully sullenberger the 18th would've just landed the damn plane HELLOOOOOO

- Bird-hit plane circles and ditches in empty field outside Omaha = low-to-moderate news coverage

- Bird-hit plane circles and ditches in strip of river immediately alongside the most densely populated bit of the country, which also happens to be a media center and just generally looms large in the consciousness of people both at home and abroad, giving the whole thing something of the look of a film thriller = lots of news coverage

Nabisco OTM with one very notable exception: UA 232 in Sioux City, Iowa 7/19/89

Keep in mind that's supposed to be a SUCCESSFULL crash landing.

I remember watching a doumentary about that sioux city crash landing, a bunch of amazing stories from people who walked off the wrecked plane with minor injuries, or in a few cases no injuries at all. One guy even spotted his hold luggage on the runway, and picked it up as he left the crash site.

Information theory tells us that amount of information = improbability of event*, so yes, emergency landing in heavily populated area with exactly 0 x casualties is indeed very newsworthy!

*) mad simplified

I liked Rachel Maddow's bit on this last night.

the coast guard released a new video that shows a bit of the "landing" and lots of the immediate reaction. The first ferry gets to the plane really quickly. Pretty amazing.

http://video.nytimes.com/video/2009/01/17/nyregion/1231545504174/coast-guard-video-of-plane-crash.html

Keep in mind that's supposed to be a SUCCESSFULL crash landing.

It was amazingly successful, considering the plane had no hydraulic systems at all. No way to steer it except with the engines. If you want to get all tense and maybe have a good cry at the end, I recommend the episode of Errol Morris's First Person.

part 1 here, links to the rest of it below

if thats the only video of the crash i see i might go on a random stabbing spree - thx tho sc better than nothing

^^

security cam footage where the shit goes out of the screen right as it lands is all we have of the pentagon crash on 9/11

this whole surveillance society has been way over sold

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/major/35790-problem-flight-1549-your-thoughts.html

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/01/18/nyregion/18plane.xlarge3.jpg

chilly.

if thats the only video of the crash i see i might go on a random stabbing spree

haha I watched that for my girlfriend. "Don't bother," I advised after. I took the bullet.

Kenan = hero

Slightly better footage here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7835497.stm

it's a shop

Maryann Bruce, 48, of Cornelius, North Carolina, said that while others were "thinking of dying, I was actually thinking about living. I wanted to see my kids and my husband." She said she had survived disasters before, including the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Centre, where she worked then.

"I must have nine lives," she said. "I was vacationing in Honolulu and had to be evacuated for a tsunami. I was skiing in Denver and had an avalanche. I was at the big LA earthquake.

sounds pretty hairy after the crash, which isn't really communicated by the videos

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/18/hudson-york-plane-crash

i am flying tomorrow, why am i reading this thread/watching those youtubes???

It's very Final Destination.

Yeah, why did I sit up all night watching the news about this, pretty much the day before I was due to fly home... over the Hudson? (Damn pretty view, though.)

i am flying tomorrow, why am i reading this thread/watching those youtubes???

I don't know- I flew friday and saturday and I still watched all the videos, and read lots on it. As plenty of folks have noted, it's more dangerous driving on the highway to the airport than getting into an airplane.

Also, you know, people survived and pilots are awesome. It's kind of reassuring.

I remember talking to a colleague in NY after the TWA800 crash and him being inappropriately upbeat because "who had ever heard of two planes going down?".

I remember talking to a colleague in NY after the TWA800 crash and him being inappropriately upbeat because "who had ever heard of two planes going down?".

― The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:09 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

that is usually my attitude, tho. statistics are on your side

^ gamblers' fallacy

^ not sure you understand the gambler's fallacy

that is usually my attitude, tho. statistics are on your side

totally agree, but i know what i'm going to be thinking about until we touch down.

^ not sure you understand the gambler's fallacy

you what, another plane crash now is just as likely as it was four days ago.
(which is still not very likely at all stevie ;)

oh, right. it's not gambler's fallacy to say that statistics are on yr side re: plane crashes, tho! didn't realize you were referring to NedT's comment

xpost That's still not the gambler's fallacy, brah.

plane crashes have just about zero to do with gambling. You want to gamble? Drive a car.

it's not gambler's fallacy to say that statistics are on yr side re: plane crashes, tho!

I think that's just what i'm saying! But who's 'you'??!?

Gambler's fallacy = betting on black 'cause red has come up seven times in a row, that's just the same as saying it's ok to fly now 'cause a plane has just crashed, so another one crashing is less likely.

It's like saying there's won't be another earthquake, because lightning never strikes twice in the same place. So yeah, I think we're square.

Gambler's fallacy = betting on black 'cause red has come up seven times in a row, that's just the same as saying it's ok to fly now 'cause a plane has just crashed, so another one crashing is less likely.

― ledge, Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:47 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark

that isn't what i said. that's what ned said. i said "statistics are on yr side." which equals = planes don't crash much. not, "a plane JUST crashed so therefore it's safer to fly now."

tho i guess saying "that is my attitude" suggested that i was indulging in the fallacy. what i meant, i guess, is "the chances of a plane crashing are slim," so i am usually upbeat about flying, whether or not another plane has recently crashed.

The alternative is to go all "hot water burn baby" and scream and punch your head and then drive or take a boat. Which is always an option.

im sure there are no irrational fears skulking the shadows of psychological kenan

It's like saying there's won't be another earthquake, because lightning never strikes twice in the same place. So yeah, I think we're square.

― mose def (kenan), Sunday, January 18, 2009 8:49 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

actually no because earthquakes happening in the same place aren't independent statistical events, neither are lightning strikes for that matter (i think). what it's most like is "betting on black 'cause red has come up seven times in a row." / pedantic

Otm; lightning striking somewhere is obv indication that that place is more likely to be struck by lightning again in the future than a random other place. The difference may or may not be slim though.

...that's what ned said

Actually it was my colleague who said it! And I really wanted to say to him "I don't think that's quite right" but dude was waiting to fly so I thought better of it. He made it back OK.

Isn't it great to hear about someone (with a splendid name) using their skill and competence to achieve something?
Ryan, Leeds, UK

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7887555.stm

I'm guessing all Americans are asleep but damn.

random...

feel bad for buffalo too, good city

shit

whoa i am from upstate and have a lot of friends who go to university @ buffalo...need to check this out :/

i mean i'm sure everything is OK but i'm sure it's a big deal around there right now

"The house was already flattened. There was no house, just a pile of rubbish and still burning," he said.

Americans don't say "rubbish", bad BBC.

Just... horrible.

When did it stop being the convention to mention the subject of terrorism (and/or 9/11, and it's lack of relevance) in any aircraft-related incident?

library has fox news on, and the anchor was referring to the irony (more synchrony imo) of one of the dead passengers being the widow of a 9/11 victim on her way to buffalo to present an award in his name

yikes. hope its no one horseshoe knows.

sorry, is that insensitive? you know what i mean.

Americans don't say "rubbish", bad BBC.

Kanye...lied?

Americans don't say "rubbish", bad BBC.

Everywhere else quotes him as saying 'rubble'.

Eckert was traveling to Buffalo for a weekend celebration of what would have been her husband's 58th birthday. She also had planned to take part in presentation of a scholarship award at Canisius High School that she established in honor of her late husband.

http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/578061.html

Another victim of note -- Alison des Forges:

The death was confirmed by Human Rights Watch, the New York-based advocacy group where Dr. Des Forges, who lived in Buffalo, served as senior adviser for its Africa division.

Dr. Des Forges spent four years interviewing organizers and victims of the Rwandan genocide, in which hundreds of thousands of people died. She testified before the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda, based in Arusha, Tanzania, and expert panels convened by the United Nations and what is now the African Union, as well as the French and Belgian legislatures and the United States Congress.

The MacArthur Foundation recognized her work with a $375,000 “genius” grant in 1999. Her book “Leave None to Tell the Story: Genocide in Rwanda,” published that year, was considered one of the most authoritative accounts of the genocide.

NEW YORK – A publicist says two members of jazz musician Chuck Mangione's band were among those killed on the plane that crashed into a Buffalo, New York, house.

Publicist Sanford Brokaw identifies the band members as Gerry Niewood and Coleman Mellett.

In a statement Mangione, said: "I'm in shock over the horrible, heartbreaking tragedy."

And you shouldn't laugh at what comes up at :20.

amzing

super great + informative article in vanity fair

http://www.vanityfair.com/style/features/2009/06/us_airways200906?currentPage=1

answers a lot of (dumb) questions like the one i posed very early in this thread about why planes could not be devised to withstand bird strikes. in fact, says the article, they have been, just not for the weight of canadian geese, which is probably impossible. anywho, the article contains many words on the nuts and bolts of plane engineering and bird strikes and landing with no engines but it all circles back very well to the hudson river landing. very informative, very entertaining.

it's very historical, and also contains a cool aside about a pilot flying a commercial plane who ran out of fuel in the middle of the night over the atlantic but was able to glide the plane onto an airport on some island

it also says that every person who has tried to land at la guardia in simulations of flight 1549 has failed

this picture still gives me chills errytime

http://i39.tinypic.com/3bm2g.jpg

by the same guy in the same magazine on a similar subject, also compelling

http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/2009/01/air_crash200901

Much about those particular geese will never be known—for instance, where they came from, and where they were headed, and why

Call yourself an investigative journalist?

But their legacy remains.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE_5eiYn0D0&feature=player_embedded

Well, there ya go:

"He doesn't know I'm gonna say this, but I had joked the other day that ... the hero sex really helps a 20-year-old marriage," The Associated Press reported Mrs Sullenberger as saying.

To which Mr Sullenberger added: "Rock star sex."

it's gonna suck next time a plane loses control within sight of a river and everyone just expects the pilot can cruise on down without too much trouble.

lol @ 3:12 he says "Nice view of the Hudson today." Oh, just wait.

Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger ends his 30 year career today by retiring.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/03/03/BAJK1CA7KE.DTL&tsp=1

Looking forward to seeing the Sully movie this weekend, although I'm a bit baffled by the conceit of the trailer - I don't remember anyone doubting Sully's competence at the time? The trailer reminded me of the movie FLIGHT from 2012, Denzel Washington played a pilot that made a similarly insane emergency landing but he was loaded on coke and booze and subsequently investigated and arrested, it was a surprisingly emotional movie for me, really about alcoholism... anyway, has anyone seen Sully yet?

i hope there is a memorial to the geese

I was always curious about the guy who panicked and opened the rear door of the plane -- water rushed in, and the plane sank faster than it otherwise would have.

Does he go to the Flight 1549 passenger reunion functions? Are things tense when he's around? When Sully sees him, does he think, "Ugh, that fucking guy"?

i've long been curious to see what flappy bird thinks of the Sullenberger movie tbh

I just hope Clint treats the geese with some dignity

closing scene: sully, alone in park, feeding bread to some geese. he stays until they fly off in v-formation. one of them has eaten to much of sully's bread, though, and has to perform an emergency landing...on land. it bellies onto the grass, but is miraculously ok. sully tips his captain's hat, which he's still wearing. roll credits

anyway, has anyone seen Sully yet?

― flappy bird, Thursday, January 15, 2009 4:52 PM (seven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hey fitzy ya seen sully yet

your flappant remarks are sullying this thread

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrtxU9MWcAAmDbw.jpg

whered that pic go

wb sully

#10YearChallenge
#2009vs2019

I was always curious about the guy who panicked and opened the rear door of the plane -- water rushed in, and the plane sank faster than it otherwise would have.

Does he go to the Flight 1549 passenger reunion functions? Are things tense when he's around? When Sully sees him, does he think, "Ugh, that fucking guy"?

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, September 7, 2016 3:47 PM (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I still wonder about this guy, and if he's allowed at the reunions, and if Sully occasionally thinks to himself, "If that jerk hadn't opened the door..."

ten years!

i thought the movie was OK fwiw