bay area vs. nyc

sorry pete.

People always tell me that San Francisco is where New Yorkers go to die. I thought that was Boca Raton.

no, that was an oil drum in the east river

How are you defining bay area?

9 counties that touch the bay

santa cruz is out

So we're saddled with Concord and Antioch and Livermore, then?

no wait, fuck that shit

marin + sf + peninsula + san jose + any city in the east bay where you can see water

San Jose is basically equivalent to Sacramento to me. I don't think it counts.

anyone can choose to make this about manhattan vs. sf, which I almost did

whatever you like counts

It would give a more comparable population base ... and we could argue that we grow more of our own food, and it might be entertaining to watch San Franciscans have to defend Antioch.

I think I might wind up voting for the Bay Area, actually? Maybe that would change if I ever lived there, instead of just having lots of really pleasant visits to SF.

they have a river in Antioch. This would also include the bastion of bankruptcy, Vallejo.

Nabisco, you have probably not visited Antioch.

So, what are we talking about in terms of NYC? Just the five boroughs? Or are we including the Dirty Jerz and Connecticut?

Not to besmirch The Garden State...I spent four lovely years off exit 9A.

what about the nyc-areaaaa vs. the bay areaaaa
then new yorkers have to defend new jersey if we have to defend antioch

Isn't New Jersey where the curvy colombian woman lives?

iatee - fair enough.

sorry pete.

― ian, Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:45 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

as long as the mail still works from NYC --> SF u r fine

ps i now live about eight blocks from the raddest skatepark

so i mean i voted bay area, but its not like a blowout! NY rulllllz hard

ps i now live about eight blocks from the raddest skatepark

I feel this statement lacks the proper foundation to be accurate. You have never seen some of ours down here.

Not that either one of us has ever skated in any of them.

BTW - Blam and Bro, Rulin' the Golden State

Not that either one of us has ever skated in any of them.
u wait im gwan

[i]Not that either one of us has ever skated in any of them.
u wait im gwan[i]

I would already have been doing so, if I could find a helmet in my head size.

I literally cannot.

So I old man skate, carving down the streets of Pasadena. Which is still pretty damn entertaining.

You should try out my board when you come down this weekend.

spring and fall = nyc
summer and winter = sf

pete you skate?!?!?

this is probably the hardest poll thread we've ever done, even in the pre-poll era "just write your answer out" days of "fucking v sucking"!!

San Francisco is the best city I've ever visited, but I'm pretty sure there's no way in hell I could afford to live there.

if you're willing to live with other people, it's not as impossibly expensive as manhattan

my take on SF? It's like the worst part of Williamsburg with more hippies and more homeless people.

NY metropolitan area beats the rest of the world, no doubt.

even though i was recently near SF for a little over 2 months, i only really got to spend 3 days in SF -- and that only as a tourist, seeing the touristy things and whatnot. SF was impressive enough, but i dunno if i could really judge esp. since i've lived near to and/or worked in NYC for over a decade now.

SF appeals to my innate prejudices, provincial nature, and sentimentality. Must be them little cable cars, dim sum, fog, or some shit like that. Reality probably has little to do with it.

this is probably the hardest poll thread we've ever done, even in the pre-poll era "just write your answer out" days of "fucking v sucking"!!

nyc = fucking sf = sucking

(obv)

also, objective truth:

a's > mets > giants > yankees

amen

that's ridiculous

I don't know what's ridiculous about objective truth

if anything, I think it's ridiculous to argue with objective truth

it's just not true is the problem

truth always seemed pretty true to me

i'm waving my hand dismissively at you -- i'm not going to argue this ridiculous point!

bay area in a walk, i'd say

good, cause there's really nothing to argue about

(xpost)

A's>Giants>Mets.

Yankees so far below they don't get a caret.

A's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Giants >>> Mets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nazis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yankees >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yankees fans

^^^ objective truth

Bay Area. new york is great for a couple of days to a week, then i start going nutso. (i have spent significant time in ny and the jerz, so yeah).

a's all the way

I'm proud of how much objective truth is already in this thread

are there any actual yankees fans on ilx? I don't read ilb that often.

We've tried to shame them into leaving, but I think there are still a few.

nyc

vote purely based on "much cheaper to fly to europe from"

this is so tired, guy

keep it on the down low los angeles.

insightful jeff I am glad you have come to visit my new thread with your new insights on life

but I think you should spend time on other threads giving them your insights too

Berkeley native, here. The Bay is great, but the city (SF) is actually very, very small. It's not impossible to do everything there is to do here worth doing in a week...if you're lazy. And last call should never be as early as it is here (1:30am!). That said, the weed is tops and so is the weather August-January.

what is it about bay area folks that they must create so many threads comparing themselves to other cities

that's no way to win, pal

one city creates threads, another city creates movies & tv series--WHO IS THE REAL ENEMY

you are OTM re: no way to win however

^^ so many threads, like two? There are no more bay area vs. other cities threads than there are recent threads about monkeys or pizza.

both threads were started by the same user, and one came out of discussion on the other.

you gotta give me head on the balcony

bay area vs A PIZZA

bay area vs A THIN CRUST PIZZA vs a burrito vs Deathproof

I will defend New Jersey! Not so much for the people as for the various landscapes. Fortunately for NJ, I like both largely decrepit industrial port cities and also rolling purple hills wreathed in fog and footed by farmland.

haa sf is the most delusional little place - it really thinks its some sort of world city always comparing itself to places like ny and la that just roll their eyes and lol - why dont u try sf bay v seattle v boston - its a good poll

you can make that one

but beware, jeff is gonna come on it and say something like 'this is stupid'

a few thingz to consider--

1) the bay area is barely a real place, no famous people live there except people who are famous from the internet, the weather is some nancy bullshit, and there is no good pizza

2) that being said it is nice to spend a few days there every once in a while, in the same way that it is nice to switch it up and do it with the lights on sometimes

3) to everyone who thinks the as are better than the yankees http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200807143134880 u are the ones who are the ball-lickers

4) finally nj rules, hard, & its whatever if nyers h8 on it, but californians talking shit abt the garden state is almost 2 much to bear--kill urselves

anyone who defends the yankees loses all credibility immediately

yankees dont need defending homie

Neither does NYC. I think there's more defense of Jersey on here than the actual target city.

and neither does sf, but we're talking about the entire urban areas, including the crappy parts

is san jose in the bay area

it is imo

unfortunately

realistically tho along w/much of the bay being quite beautiful silicon valley is the one truly exceptional thing the place has going for it

if you are gonna say something crazy like that without anything backing it up, you should at least start it with "objective truth: "

go ahead refute it besides natural beauty and technology what does the bay hav that other places dont

i mean theres some good food and some sort of local culture too but

so you're saying other than beauty, food and culture what does the bay area have that other places don't

the A's I guess

food was a secondary quality

a big red bridge

http://rlv.zcache.com/alcatraz_psycho_ward_tshirt-p235353325103261079q5li_210.jpg

all these places are basically the same who cares u can have the same lame arguments abt restaurants and experiences in any u.s. city with a mlb baseball team and actin like w/e bs "character" u think a place has is some real objective thing is retarded srsly

exception to this is miami which is like hell but worse imo

palo alto pretty much sucks to but who cares u get the same tv channels anyway

hotter people in nyc, nyc wins

girls have to be hotter there to land the ibankers

what a sad rationalization

I guess they can be a little less hot cause of the recession

one thing amongst many thats so lame abt the bay - and this goes hand in hand w/the constant self aggrandizement - is that theres just no rigor to the place - people are so busy imagining how sweet things are and being into various lifestyle bullshits that no one has any standards - so u get girls dressing like clowns and calling it influential street fashion - u get freegan tempeh loaf as a meaningful cultural symbol - in ny that shit doesnt fly - peopled walk right up to yr face and dis u - and ty god 4 that

ya I would get pretty scared if someone walked right up to my face and dissed me

esp. if it was jeff

srsly sf whats yr deal w/clashing garments

did u guys read that article abt the sex massage place

wd've voted SF in '98

ya I would get pretty scared if someone walked right up to my face and dissed me

― iatee, Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:18 AM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

u wouldnt be scared ud be all whats that guys deal why is he so mean - not seeing that he cares so much more for u than all yr bullshiting friends - dont u see

in the bay area ppl are just as quick to call out uncool lamewads wearing swedish overalls as fashion and pretending to like gardening but they just do it via tweets or probably some new web 3.0 technology called wens that just got invented by someone in the bay area today and already has 11,432 users

sry youve never heard of it

ya i see now - he is the only one who really loves me

xpost

fyi i already dewened like 45 mins ago - that shit is so played

yah i was wennin w/like retro-irony

ne1 got a wens invite--willing to trade torrentech?? PM me please

"no famous people live there except people who are famous from the internet"

Uh Rob Schneider lives here. I just saw. . .

See, I'm torn.

The few times I've hung out in the Bay Area, I've ALWAYS had a blast, and they've been in different parts
- did Napa (lamest...too much of a to-do),
- did SF Proper (great, because it was the first time, had a few days to kick it and walk around and what not, and my friend had provided me with some Marin high-grade),
- did the East Bay (prolly the best, because I went to one of the coolest weddings ever in El Cerrito, and hung with Bro of Blam)
- did Half Moon Bay/ Santa Cruz/ Monterey (third out of four...too much else going on, and those areas seem even more detached from reality)

But all four times were cool, for sure. That said, one of the worst people I know lives in PA, and his horribleness has befouled the beauty of an otherwise great place.

I think I have to stick with the Bay Area. You can just do SO many things within the span of a day.

This is really like choosing between two really, really hot sisters.

you know who this trhead really needs some input from is gabbneb

SF has more obnoxious young panhandlers who need to meet Haight pavement

"you know who this trhead really needs some input from is gabbneb"

SB'd you for that.

are you saying gabby's a panhandler in SF now? o how the mighty have fallen

fyi i sent gabbz a wen about this thread and he sd that it was obv the north coast

you sent gabb a facial blemish

don't know if slocki's right about there being more hot people in nyc but there def not that many hot people in bay area

get with the times que a wen is a 3d hologram social networking device msg

also ima little scared to go to work today in the bay area, since there is a big protest, which will prob turn into a riot, planned one block away and i will be on my own all day

so maybe i'll vote ny

and also bay area lost some points last night because the parkway is CLOSING DOWN FOR GOOD

that was pretty much the only bright spot in my dark neighbourhood

i could never live in the bay cause yr not allowed to give people shit there the way u are here - sf people get all uptight if u encroach on their cloud mind - in ny people are more playful

downside: no yoga vag rubbin cults

well that is because everything said in sf is objective truth and if u disagree u r literally worse than a nazi -- i read this upthread, on a wencast.

"i could never live in the bay cause yr not allowed to give people shit there the way u are here"

I'm sure people would give you shit here too, ice cr?m.

I would give him a lil bit

if by that u mean homeless people, literally handing you their excrement, then yes, ppl in the bay area give u shit

haha

No I mean people would point and laugh at you.

and also bay area lost some points last night because the parkway is CLOSING DOWN FOR GOOD

WHAAAAT

Esp. once they learned you were a fan of Derek Jeter.

"i could never live in the bay cause yr not allowed to give people shit there the way u are here"

I'm sure people would give you shit here too, ice cr?m.

― Alex in SF, Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:28 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is just a sad sad attempt at shit giving rip sf bay

can you show us how it's done?

oh cmon alex bay area ppl dont understand sports i lived there for five yrs and they are worse than communists in understanding cf san francisco giants and san francisco giants fans

He can only make jokes about Kobe Bryant and rape, unfortunately.

That's why Giants are so many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below the A's on my list.

its cute how the a's hav a fan

Hey there are at least 20 of us, fuck-o.

At least the Bay Area isn't dumb enough to get scammed into fronting shitloads of $$$ to build stadia for our sports franchises.

A's just got sonned new york style

the a's are a real team????? i tht they were just some elaborate fantasy league construction of bored mbas and software developers

At least the Bay Area isn't dumb enough to get scammed into fronting shitloads of $$$ to build stadia for our sports franchises.

― Alex in SF, Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:36 PM (16 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sick burn

Technically that was Boston-style. If this was a real world interaction, ice cr?m would have thrown a bottle at my head to close the deal.

the As are so poor they cant even afford enough letters to have a real name

the a's are a real team????? i tht they were just some elaborate fantasy league construction of bored mbas and software developer

which is why they're the only team worth following imo

Technically that was Boston-style. If this was a real world interaction, ice cr?m would have thrown a bottle at my head to close the deal.

― Alex in SF, Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:37 PM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

guilty \(O_O)/

anyway bay vs. nyc mlb sports team debate is pretty dire u should argue abt nfl teams instead

at least the SF Giant fans knew they were watching the best ballplayer of the last 40 years.

frankly i dont want to live in a world where a half hearted zing cant be punctuated w/a bottle to the grill

lincecum isn't that good

or do you mean steroid dude

SF Eagle >>>>> NY Eagle

"anyway bay vs. nyc mlb sports team debate is pretty dire u should argue abt nfl teams instead"

The Oakland Raiders are the best XFL team ever!

no morbs was talking about Jeff Kent

arguin about nfl teams would just be sad. maybe we should just argue "giants v giants" and see what happens

i hate jeff kent so much you guyz srsly

I'll argue college football teams with anybody

cal vs. columbia

no one cares about college football

^^^ in your face, new york-syle. i applaud you

"i hate jeff kent so much you guyz srsly"

I saw Jeff Kent eating at Buckhorn Grill with his short wife. When was the last time one of you NYC saw Chuck Knoblauch and his wife eating? No celebs my ass.

they do in places where there are college football teams

so...the entire country except nyc

go scarlet knights

That makes me like NYC more though and the entire country less.

sorry that the northeast has actual professional franchises worth caring about so that we don't have to pay attention to semi-professional date rapists running around doing pop-warner shit ;_;

tho fwiw not a single person i have hung out with in sf gives a horse's ass about college football either so i think it is just you.

the schef: only cares about professional date rapists

my one Giants baseball exp at China Basin: concession stand TVs were showing "Everybody Loves Raymond" DURING THE GAME

Maybe 3 people who actually go to UC Berkeley give a shit about Cal football.

I went to Cal and don't give a shit about Cal football.

alex in sf I do not appreciate this betrayal

I didn't realise there were three tiers of date rapists. How does one become a professional? Who pays these subsidies?

Greek Amphitheater in Berkeley trumps NYC outdoor music locations

dudes srsly this my sports team is better than yrs line is pretty tedious and insulting to exactly no one lets talk more abt how humorless and poorly dressed everyone in the bay is

I will cop to being poorly dressed!

Or how mediocre mexican food in NYC is.

SF hasn't been same for schef since Steve McQueen stopped doing car chases.

Or anything, really.

polyphonic: we went to the 2-for-$5 movie last night and were talking about how AWESOME it is, how GREAT the parkway is etc. then we got home and checked email and got the bad news. it's closing down this sunday, so much notice ;_;

Or how mediocre mexican food in NYC is.

― Alex in SF, Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:51 PM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no one is contesting this one - its ok tho since we have food from absolutely everywhere in the world to choose from

Yeah thing is so do we plus we have mexican food.

thats really not at all true sry

Please enlighten me on all the types of cuisine we are missing out on.

martian

i felt like i dressed well when i lived there fyi

all NYC movie palaces gone (save RC Music Hall which no longer shows films), not so Castro Theater

most of them from this place http://www.google.com/images?q=tbn:W8f7ZVrBN07MLM::www.tcnj.edu/~miller47/world%252520map.jpg xp

is ziegfield gone??

xp Is that some sort of skin blemish?

classic sf style zing

*rimshot*

in SF's favor, they do have Indian pizza, which I doubt NYC has

alex in sf when ice cr?m says mean (but real) things like that to you, it's not cause he's trying to be mean

it's cause he actually loves you like only a nyc stranger can and wants to teach you a lesson about life nyc style

(just an fyi)

s1ocki, not crazy about Ziegfeld aesthetically -- and it was built in 1969!

http://cinematreasures.org/theater/12/

i like the zigfeld

1969 r u serious?!?!?!

that blows my mind, i guess it was going for a retro thing especially with the name

yeah they tore down the real vaudeville Ziegfeld!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziegfeld_Theatre

polyphonic: we went to the 2-for-$5 movie last night and were talking about how AWESOME it is, how GREAT the parkway is etc. then we got home and checked email and got the bad news. it's closing down this sunday, so much notice ;_;

One cool thing is that the Shattuck Landmark is in the process of putting couches in a bunch of theaters and getting a liquor license. Not the same thing, but a lot closer to me than the Parkway, and arguably a better selection of movies.

But the Parkway is its own awesome thing. I guess the El Cerrito Speakeasy is sticking around?

comments on that page break my heart... xxp

i used to wonder if it was just montreal that was tearing down all its old theatres... but it really happened everywhere.

such a bummer.

there's an old movie palace on Flatbush Ave that serves as a college basketball arena!

there's tons in montreal now which are now churches... which is weird because there are tons of empty catholic churches.

id love to live in an old church

goth

bad predecessor chi

The oldest (occasionally) operating movie theater in the area is in Jersey City, which is being restored piecemeal:

http://www.loewsjersey.org/

i have absolutely nothing to add to this thread but this:

I saw Jeff Kent eating at Buckhorn Grill with his short wife. When was the last time one of you NYC saw Chuck Knoblauch and his wife eating? No celebs my ass.

is totally brilliant, way to go alex in sf

i agree with many of the bad things said about NYC and the Bay Area on this thread.

but the Bay Area is gorgeous.

New York City is for shit.

that's what it comes down to, for me.

yeah nyc cannot compete with SF aesthetically speaking.

jeff kent hasn't played for a bay area team in how many years? dude lives in texas wtf.

tabes, you discovered this when you vanished into the sewers on yr December visit?

NY = walking town. SF hills = tiring.

no wai, sf is totally walkable

SF is great walking town. Get some knees old man.

so sf is a great walking town if you're not lazy

when u guys say sf is more prettier than nyc what are you talking about? weather? architecture? city planning?

1,2,3

(maybe not city planning tbh)

the hills, the bay, the vistas

"jeff kent hasn't played for a bay area team in how many years? dude lives in texas wtf."

I don't know the circumstances of why he was in the Metreon eating at the Buckhorn. I just know he was. If you have seen Knoblauch with his wife, doing similar things please let us know.

I do walk all over SF! It's just more of a chore.

(new knees hopefully at least 20 years away)

Of course this is the best advertisement for LA ever: i ate 10 tacos next to jeff weaver last night

when u guys say sf is more prettier than nyc what are you talking about? weather? architecture? city planning?

less garbage in the streets, no alligators in the sewers, etc etc

sf has the worst public transportation in the world - muni bart lololol

^ridic

bart is fantastic at what it does except for the occasional guy who gets shot execution style by a cop

muni kinda sucks but has the best public transit logo ever, so that almost makes up for it

"sf has the worst public transportation in the world - muni bart lololol"

Patented NYC zing i.e. a complete falsehood peddled by idiot man-child.

SF public transit is pretty good compared to LA or San Diego or most cities that aren't New York.

i thought muni was pretty awesome when we were in SF last year

someone should make a public transit logo poll

sorry to state the obvious but SF is not a flat sprawling grid which makes public transit more challenging.

Agree. I think MUNI's pretty great given the circumstances of SF.

Also think it could be better too, but what can you do.

muni is good if u want to take a train that goes slower than walking - bart is good if u want to take a train that has one line and costs a million dollars

sf has the worst public transportation in the world - muni bart lololol

No.

i enjoyed muni whilst i lived in the bay--if nothing else fantastic names for the lines--i always thought if i was a bay-area rapper id call myself "n-judah"

oh shit they raised the price again I guess xpost xpost

i disagree about public transit, but that is because i like buses and taking them everywhere.

also morbs, i've spent two summers in NY, along with a couple of months here and there, as well as weeks and weekends scattered all over. i know the subway better than my friends who moved there 8 months ago.

and NY is ugly. sorry.

"muni is good if u want to take a train that goes slower than walking - bart is good if u want to take a train that has one line and costs a million dollars"

Seriously you have no idea what you are talking about. Go back to a Celtics thread.

thanks 4 apologizing table it makes the news easier to take

and NY is ugly. sorry.

its not your fault - you sd you left

oh allow me to clarify: i rode the muni buses, not the subway. the buses were awesome. but i love public transportation. sorry.

Who gives a shit which city has better public transit or sports teams, stfu.

LAs public transit sucks, but only when you don't live near a station or are going somewhere near a station (or both).

To be fair, this includes roughly 99% of people in LA.

But, when I was working downtown and living in Pasadena, I enjoyed the Gold Line immensely. Pretty easy to get from Pasadena to Hollywood, too.

But LA is a big dog and the current Metro is far to small a leash.

"muni is good if u want to take a train that goes slower than walking - bart is good if u want to take a train that has one line and costs a million dollars"

Seriously you have no idea what you are talking about. Go back to a Celtics thread.

― Alex in SF, Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:50 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i hav taken both these trains a bunch of times and they suk - yr lack of any retort besides stfu is telling

srsly for a city thats so proud of its progressiveness sf should hav better public transport - if i had to commute on the n judah id plant a bomb at city hall - forget new york that train is worse than the worst subway in boston

an urban 'vista' in NY:
http://www.bridgeandtunnelclub.com/bigmap/brooklyn/sunsetpark/sunsetpark/06harbor.jpg

and urban vista in SF:
http://static.travelmuse.com/docs/artwork/san-francisco/san-francisco-family-friendly-bernal-heights-view-full.jpg

man sf public transportation was like a DREAM coming from l.a. not as good as nyc or chicago but still really good.

ice cr?m, they're also mostly electric-run or biodiesel. so eat my dick.

dude sf does NOT have the worst public transit in the country though obviously it lags well behind nyc

in sf u can climb to the top of a hill in a corny hat

Who gives a shit which city has better public transit or sports teams, stfu.

― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:54 PM (42 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sports is all lolz but public transport has a huge impact on the life of a city

also neither city is prettier than the other. some of you need to check yr fuckin selves.

You gotta move to the Jerz or BK to get the vistas in the NYMA

http://www.wirednewyork.com/manhattan/skyline/new_york_skyline3.jpg

now see that vista is ugly to me. skyscrapers? yuk.

First GIS result. Prolly could have been better.

nah it's cool

sf is beautiful but its all pretty samey - doesnt hav the variation or intrigue of ny

if u cant find beauty in nyc ur either not trying hard enough or u made up ur mind without ever looking--either way its sad--sf is very pretty by the way

I def think sf doesn't have the public transportation that it should (though, like I said, bart is awesome at what it does)

this doesn't really affect my life though cause I walk everywhere

nyc's is as good as america gets but paris+london put it to shame

sf is beautiful but its all pretty samey - doesnt hav the variation or intrigue of ny

This is some dumb nonsense.

Everybody lives in either Jerz or BK anyway, so no sweat there.

Exchange Place does have the best views of New York coming or going.

Who gives a shit which city has better public transit or sports teams, stfu.

i made this point like three hours ago but arguing about pointless bs on the internet is one of lifes true pleasures - greater even then wearning ugmo hats and staring out over urban vistas - so i think were the ones that got schooled... BICOSTAL STYLE

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/229/500398648_bd21c832c9.jpg?v=0
picture taken within nyc city limits

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/149/404030785_571304b154.jpg?v=0
picture taken within sf city limits

as you can see they are both disgusting hellholes

man the grateful dead really let themselves go

okay looking at the pix schef posted slocki and icey have a point about the # of ugly ppl in sf

sf is beautiful but its all pretty samey - doesnt hav the variation or intrigue of ny

This is some dumb nonsense.

― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:00 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol hav u ever been to new york endless variation is pretty much the definition of the place architecturally or otherwise

lol hav u ever been to new york endless variation is pretty much the definition of the place architecturally or otherwise

I have been to New York and find it impossibly beautiful!

NY is NOT put to shame by either London or Paris.

Paris may beat it, but NY holds its own, for sure.

London gets its pale, limey ass beat.

paris beats it by so much it's not even funny

ok where the hell did europe come into this!

also paris and sf are sister cities, thus sf beats it through family association

paris beats it by so much it's not even funny

You say this because they speak with a funny accent. No other reason.

i find ny aesthetically more fascinating than beautiful - theres tons of ugly shit everywhere and its generally pretty chaotic - i guess u could say its beautiful in the larger sense like "life... man" - but its not always pretty - sf is vv pretty btw

i mean hey guys here's a picture of minneapolis, where is yr god now
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3227/2736353581_ae8dbed3af.jpg?v=0

Parisian french = act/speak like you're drunk, and everyone else will just assume you're cool.

i find ny aesthetically more fascinating than beautiful - theres tons of ugly shit everywhere and its generally pretty chaotic - i guess u could say its beautiful in the larger sense like "life... man" - but its not always pretty -

Life in all its messy splendor is megabeautiful to me I guess.

u guize sound high

"sound"

did everyone know that the best city is actually nova scotia -- think about it

haa

*thinking*

lols

the best city is actually the city that we all occupy in r minds--the psychic city--~~~~--

i find ny aesthetically more fascinating than beautiful - theres tons of ugly shit everywhere and its generally pretty chaotic - i guess u could say its beautiful in the larger sense like "life... man" - but its not always pretty -

Life in all its messy splendor is megabeautiful to me I guess.

― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:10 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yah i agree tho i was talkin aesthetics

the best city is actually the city that we all occupy in r minds--the psychic city--~~~~--

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:16 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

mental aquare

i will say that Prospect Park in autumn might be one of my favorite place/times on earth.

but Buena Vista in springtime beats it by a hair.

http://store.lousrecords.com/catalog/parliament~_chocolate_101b.jpg

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:NiYwwkRjxW6G6M:http://www.timelineuniverse.net/images/Emerald%2520City.jpg

shout out for marin headlands in the bay area:

http://www.mysciencebox.org/files/images/headlands.img_assist_custom.jpg

http://nature.wallpaperme.com/1709-2/Golden+Gate+Bridge_+Marin+Headlands_+San+Francisco_+California.jpg

my half sister for a while lived w/her mother in a houseboat in marin - i give that scenario huge props def - there should be more houseboats in ny

and more piracy

i will be a houseboat pirate def if anyone wants to get a crew together

HEY a woman who bartends/used to bartend at the Magician lives on a houseboat!! I got in a long convo w her one night while smoking. Giant wharf rats apparently biggest problem.

i know some awesome queer kids who live on a houseboat in the Gowanus canal. it is awesome, but it smells.

She used to live in the EV until rent went crazy. Clearly houseboat is next logical step.

o man where is this magical houseboat

yah dont think i could deal w/gowanus even 4 a houseboat

i believe it is near Union st.

i've been trying to pitch houseboat/piracy for a while to a select group of friends. this was when r0ss had a job and worked right by me tho so the pitched idea was to have this boat in the hudson river off chelsea or hell's kitchen.

we can dock at chelsea piers

or basketball city whatever

The Magician woman hers was uptown on the Hudson somewhere. Forget how far uptown.

manhattan should be ringed in houseboat docks imo

is Oakland the Brooklyn of the Bay?

one time from my sisters houseboat i fed a sea lion french fries

probably not xpost

dude joe no wonder those sea lions in sf are so freaking fat!!

i know i know sry it was an amzing experience 4 me tho

I would say that Berkeley, El Cerrito and Richmond are like Brooklyn. Oakland...i don't know about an analog, but i'm tempted to say Queens.

oakland+berkeley > brooklyn

richmond < everything

one time I saw this fat white guy wearing a gangsta-ish t-shirt that said

"welcoem to richmond: we own the bay"

in fact it was spelled 'welcome' not 'welcoem' but at least that woulda been funny, this was just wtf

Richmond might be the worst place in the entire Bay Area. one of the only gay hate crimes to happen in recent memory in the Bay Area happened there in December.

Sorry I missed the last hour and a half. Is ice cr?m still pretending he's rode a bus in San Francisco?

no, we were all busy talking about how you're being a dick u_u

lol j/k we were talkin bout fat seals

xp ^^^ patented NYC zing

yeah i'm sorry i couldn't come up with something really cunning, like "nazis"

Sorry I missed the last hour and a half. Is ice cr?m still pretending he's rode a bus in San Francisco?

― Alex in SF, Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:16 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

alex fyi i was born in n cali and lived in the bay area til i was four and hav been back at least once a year since - my entire extended family on both sides lives out there - in the year 2002 i stayed in the city of sf for a month straight - right by the shithole n judah

oo more cute shit-talking after a dry spell involving piracy, thread is back on track! :D

have u guize heard of a phoenix, arizona

both cities have it pretty good and in reality comparing them is kind of narcissism of small differences compared to most of the rest of the country, but it does make for entertaining internet bs <- my take on it

Wow color me impressed. I apologize for implying you've never been here before. I just assumed that your hyperbole was based in lack of experience (as opposed to now obvious brain damage.)

FTR I agree the N Judah is a crappy train (hell all the MUNI trains are pretty crappy once they leave the subway--that's why they are only one of about half-dozen public transit means of navigating the greater bay area.) But the crappiest in the country? Gimmie a break.

ppl, both cities are fine and a shadow of their former selves.

^CORRECT ANSWER

yr being overly literal w/crappiest in the country (brain damage symptom?) - it just totally sucks is all

nyc def peaked w/puerto rican cocaine fistfights

omg morbius, you!!

what cities aren't (at least in local opinions) a shadow for their former selves? what american city is awesomer now than it ever has been?

nyc def peaked w/puerto rican cocaine fistfights

― ice cr?m, Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:34 PM (51 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

rip real new york--havent fought a puerto rican in years

phoenix, arizona, i already said this

scottsdale

xp

have u guize considered martha's vineyard?

Terrible public transit, schef.

no actually i find it is ok

we should sail our houseboat fleet to phoenix to pillage its endless deserted subdivisions

in martha's vineyard i mean -- phoenix is another story, it truly is the worst public transit in the entire universe

I was thinking 1950s NY, icey, back when Winchell ruled, plebes drank next to DiMaggio and Jackie Gleason at Toots Shor's, and all those movies you haven't seen were made.

no wai morbs ethnic cocaine fistfights all the way

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2074/2399137745_43d3e3f300.jpg?v=0
picture of martha's vineyard

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1013/1426362123_52f8272290.jpg?v=0
picture of phoenix, arizona

obv both unmitigated hellholes of the nth degree but what american city isn't, now that it isn't 1943.

btw marthas vinyard has the most civilized form of public transpo ever devised: hitchhiking

my friend used to drive a cab on the vineyard, for your information

i read this richard price book that made nyc in the 1950 seem pretty amazing and like nothing but cocaine streetfights all the time except when your having sex with your gloriously beautiful italian gf. what was the name of your street gang morbz???

the Amboy Perths.

and do I prefer porn Times Square to $200 Disney shows and a Manhattan not made for condo dwellers and tourists? bet yer bippy.

that Vineyard shot looks like last scene of Planet of the Apes. "I missed the ferry, you maniacs!"

This is like listening to Tom Brady and Ryan Reynolds argue about whose SO is hotter. Gisele's English is mediocre! Oooh, Scarlett has a mole!

i know a guy who was in a gang called the red hook angels - its pretty hilarious to hear his tales cause hes a nebbish middle aged photographer

Phoenix might be one of the worst places on earth.

gisele

yeah gisele easy

For my money, Pittsburgh is a better-looking city than NYC any damn day of the week.

gisele seems like a helluva lot less of a fucking pill than scarjo

i wd get them dyking while my russian wing made a snuff film of phoenix az

other matchups

mpls v. portland
seattle v. vancouver
miami v. los angeles
boston v. lol just kidding
toronto v. chicago

Tom Brady vs Ryan Reynolds

haa sf is the most delusional little place - it really thinks its some sort of world city always comparing itself to places like ny and la that just roll their eyes and lol - why dont u try sf bay v seattle v boston - its a good poll

― ice cr?m, Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:46 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Peyton Manning v. Memphis, TN

"gisele seems like a helluva lot less of a fucking pill than scarjo"

Why is she married to Tom Brady as opposed to dating Ryan "Cock Juggling Thundercunt" Reynolds then?

i am not so crazy that i would actually read this whole thread, mr.

I remember when you made that post ice cr?m. that was back in the golden era of this thread.

its an important point regarding this discussion

haa sf is the most delusional little place - it really thinks its some sort of world city always comparing itself to places like ny and la that just roll their eyes and lol - why dont u try sf bay v seattle v boston - its a good poll

― ice cr?m, Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:46 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― ice cr?m, Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:51 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

(just in case anyone forgot in the last 3 minutes)

cool good job

am i even supposed to know what that "cock juggling thundercunt" post means or is this like the nova scotia joke

what happened, i was in phoenix

only someone from sf would initiate this poll is my point

mpls v. portland < mpls
seattle v. vancouver < seattle maybe but who cares
miami v. los angeles < la probably
boston v. lol just kidding < lol just kidding
toronto v. chicago < chicago

the real reason a poll like that wouldn't work as well as this one is because the Bay Area would totally pwn Seattle and Boston. maybe not NY, admittedly, but really? Boston makes me throw up in my mouth when i even think about it.

oh man did it just happen

bostonians will hit u in the head w/a bottle tho which makes them inherently more credible than wishy washy n californians

boston sucks but i feel like hating boston is played out, it is pretty '00s and i am looking for '10s trends now

okay its been a long day and weve all sd some things but schef are u really equivocating over miami vs. la???? u want a new trend hate on fukken miami

i love cubans dude

i feel like i hav reason and right to hate both the bay and boston since im from both places - but maybe hating sf is more cutting edge - i feel like i never hear anyone except me hating on it

hateable cities, the '10s:

• san francisco, ca
• brooklyn, ny
• san diego, ca
• phoenix, az
• manchester, england
• beijing, china
• mumbai, india
• asgabat, turkmenistan
• capetown, south africa

i love cubans dude

― he sounded italian enough to give me something (the schef (adam schefter ha ha)), Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:03 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is a reason to love cuba, not a reason to love miami

max in case you hadn't noticed we can't go to castro's cuba freely

I went freely!

that was back in 1912 tho

(Yosemite Samlike OOOOOOOHHH!)

also max has predicted above Brooklyn will become an independent city like pre-1898. REAL INDIE!

wait i thought we already hated brooklyn

yeah i hear Brooklyn is signing with Matador soon

sellouts

i dunno the new stuff on their myspace is pretty hot shit--we'll see i guess

:/ i remember when brooklyn was playing shows with idiot bag

if oakland opens for brooklyn i will just barf all over the place

i still subscribe to brooklyns wen so

lol

i saw brooklyn at an all ages show w/dreamboat gorilla in 92

the fuck you did

4 real at the channel in boston - it was amazing

Brooklyn never knows when to get off the stage and is always borrowing Jamaica Plain's gear

i've heard about that show icey--it's fairly legendary

encouraging new direction for atrocious thread

when is pussyville's ep dropping

no i'm ok with brooklyn, it's played out to hate brooklyn when it's a place that ppl put puke bags on their heads in bars or grown women throw cats at men as weapons. i think the next big move is to hate "sobro"

eh while i do like their new stuff more atrocious thread is mostly hype imo

i can't wait to hear the new pussyville

no i'm ok with brooklyn, it's played out to hate brooklyn when it's a place that ppl put puke bags on their heads in bars or grown women throw cats at men as weapons.

my friend's gf dumped him because, while they were both incredibly drunk, he threw her roommate's cat at her. she is allergic to cats btw

a dirty bomb

I feel like you'd have to be like 3 feet away or have a baseball pitcher's arm to actually hit someone with a cat

cats seem like totally reasonable weapons to me but then again i hav lived in brooklyn for almost a decade now

i don't think you "throw" a cat--you sort of kinda toss it underhanded at someone.

that's just a guess.

http://blog.mlive.com/flintjournal/entertainment/2008/02/Semi_Pro_Merch4.JPG

in his recounting he used the two-handed overhead method which seemed to work okay unfortunatetly there were no cats around on saturday to fully test methodologies

depends on the cat

that's actually a pretty good idea, I hadn't thought of that

you didn't? cats totally come in all shapes and sizes, dude, google it

cat-a-pult

that what i use when i need to throw our cat, FYI

http://maxmagnusnorman.com/skulptur/cat_thrower_1.jpg

^^^^ trying to determine precisely how many ppl at this brooklyn show are in "bands" of their own

everyone is in a band tho is the thing

im not :/

sure you are lamp, you're in a band with me.

we need a name tho

i am actually cat power fyi

yeah duh schef i know he is trying to figure out if he can swing his cat w/o hitting anyone

mr que aren't we in a band

i actually really, really miss being in a band these days :(

but he wants to hit ppl with his cat!

yeah gbx we're totally in a band

and i soooo miss being in a band

i miss the drums so bad

im in a band... a band of brothers

im in a houseboat pirate gang

follow us on wen

im the king of a shantytown

i don't know why you just referred to nj as a shantytown

I didn't realize people throwing cats at other people was so common. Seriously thought it was just a Simpson joke.

i am an adjunct chief of a small nomadic tribe

One good thing about Richmond, CA is they had the balls and organization to vote to make Chevron pay them large amounts of money.

xp: to whoever said Northern Californians are all wishy-washy, let me remind you of the homicidal grandeur of Oakland and Richmond.

cat-throwing vs schef & me reviewing sucky new Paul Rudd movie

that was a delightful experience

cat-sucking vs. throwing Paul Rudd in a movie

I gave it one thrown cat

i will throw a cat at u guys while u r reviewing - what is this all abt

too late, we already did this thing

no everyone gets one cat to throw during the movie, if yr friend lols at a sucky part u throw a cat at em

seems fair

it was almost all sucky parts, except for paul rudd's adorable face

"we're gonna need more cats"

can they re-use the cat and throw it back later?

how many throws is the average cat gonna take before you need to replace it?

2.5

I like idea of ushers throwing cats at the audience of a Paul Rudd movie.

that depends on the cat's disposition and what it had to eat earlier

http://www.tubcat.com/other_cats/flying%20cat.jpg

http://www.honecksculptures.com/catalog/images/DSCI0001_edited.JPG

I threw our cat at my brother a couple times when growing up. Perfect weapon. You don't want to get hit with an angry cat flying through the air with its claws out, it will scratch you up good.

i think it is time for me to retire my squid necklace now that some waitress at alchemy has the same one and take upon myself the mantle of "flying cat necklace"

best film I've seen w/ cat hurled at lens:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108471/

Shakey you are a monster. That was worse than anything you said about poor dead Lisa Kudrow.

i don't know where else to put this

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/joaquin-ez2.jpg

I think that goes in the Battlestar Galactica thread.

u r right

there are multiple instances of cat throwing in this movie:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105428/

stretchable double combs

is the name of our houseboat pirate gang

sean "double" combs

notrhing i'm saying is making any sense is it

hey I was like 8 years old!
x-post

child cat throwing prodigy

xp you know people will still have lols at your expense about this, right?

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

bay area comes within 20 votes and it's an upset imo

There may be a riot, y'all.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

haha

Yayuh

hippies on a roll

epic day for the bay area

hella rad man.

midwestern haters no doubt

don't those guys just move to new york?

yah i dunno there are so many amzing people here its hard to keep track

no it's not: 26

i voted twice tho

i did not vote.

You NYC dudes can always trash a cop car or something if you feel there is an injustice.

yeah, we RESPECT cops around here

lol

respecting cops is pretty gay, no lie

cops are pretty gay in general

sf has gay cops ive heard

Why does everyone think NYC is full of Midwesterners? I get all excited when I meet one -- most people I know are from various East Coast places.

yeah but not everyone wearing a police uniform in sf is a cop. it really depends on context.

some just pose as cops for the fajitas

fajitas n ritas amirite boys

i voted nyc and i'm from here

bay area one because you all are sitting around your computers voting all day while new yorkers are all out partying all night and getting bottle service at high-end clubs with the DFA and Larry Levan.

it's true :(

bay area one, nyc fun