Tommy Wiseau's "The Room"

Is there really no thread about this horrible-yet-excellent film on ILE?

I'm going to the midnight screening at the Red Vic in SF next week. Part of me thinks that it's "too popular" now that it has been talked up by Tim & Eric, David Wain, NPR, Bill Simmons, etc., etc., but fuck it, I still love it:

this looks awful

There was a feature about this movie in one of the British papers recently. Apparently there are mass screenings every last Saturday of the month in a Hollywood cinema, where the same enthusiasts appear in costume each time. Wiseau is one of them.

yeah it's a pretty big deal around here

Homosexual II/Mandee to thread IMMEDIATELY, code red

She showed me this movie when I was in Denver for a few days - it changed my life.

lol at shakey

Snakes on a Plane!

So much better than Snakes on a Plane, come on.

I'm just judging by the trailer but it looks like garden variety 90s relationship drama indie film...? am I missing something?

It's like that, except way, way, way more inept. Here is a good example:

Or, even better:

omg the patron saint of "baout things"

okay wow wtf that is some shitty filmmaking...

I know that flower store lolz

shakey i caught this @ the red vic last month, it's got a few more midnite screenings coming up. Would def be worth seeing in a room full of savages if some of the cultists weren't so rocky horror annoying about it.

it's basically made by a guy who learned the english language and customs from watching nothing but soap operas.

Future prospects for Wiseau include a sitcom called The Neighbors, a book about the differences between 35 mm film and high-definition video, a Broadway adaptation of The Room, a Dracula movie and a musical show based on Ayn Rand's life.[3]

a musical show based on Ayn Rand's life.

hahaha okay this needs to happen

written by Steve Ditko I hope

He'll never top this. Dude will prolly just become more dull and competent.

Oh hiiiiii

this movie is amazing

RiffTrax has done a good thing.

I hate the RiffTrax for this movie.

forget rifftrax, the movie itself is just...wow

it's basically made by a guy who learned the english language and customs from watching nothing but soap operas.

― Cosmo Vitelli, Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:58 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is the last movie that needs a fuckin' rifftrax

it's redundant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnnTqFTHGuc

lol i don't even need to watch to remember that little gem

i have seen this movie like 45 times

there are only TWO THINGS in life that make me truly happy

1- the smell of a casino
2- the opening credits of 'the room'

that is it.

<3

also: i have the hots for chris-r

WHERE'S MY FUCKING MONEY DENNY

i hate denny so much

he is a grade A creeper

he has no boundaries

got a kick out of this - from imdb:

The Best Movie....EVER!!!, 29 February 2004
Author: houndog5 from los angeles

OK, that may be a stretch, but I have inside knowledge into the facts. You see, I was fortunate enough to have worked on the film. As I read the reviews here, especially the last one, which I am sure was written by our amazing Director/Actor/Producer/Writer, I felt I had to respond. Having the dubious honor of saying I worked on this film, has also brought with it the responsibility of telling the truth about what happened on set. Apparently Tommy had a lot of money sitting around and decided he needed to make a film. Not being able to decide what to shoot, film or video, we shot both. Side by side. Both cameras on the same head, being operated by one camera operator. We shot almost the whole thing in the parking lot and back storage shed (read- sound stage) of a camera rental house in Hollywood. I got the call to work on the show after they had already tried to start with another crew that ended up all being dismissed. I believe that we ended up being crew 2 of 4. The show never had much organization to it from the start. We were told it would be a 3 week shoot. At the end of 3 weeks we were exactly 1/2 way done. Crew calls were usually 8 a.m. tommy would show up around 10:30 or 11. Because he would take the HD video camera home with him every night, we had no choice but to wait for him. Since we were only in one room or outside the door in the parking lot, we did not have anything to do but sit around and wait every day. When Tommy arrived we would have to see if he was in actor mode or director mode. If he was in actor mode, you were not allowed to talk to him so he could "stay in character." Since he was in almost every scene, he was always in his "actor" mode. This also meant that he could not direct. Noting the huge delays every day and the fact that we were never seeming to get anything done, our wonderful script supervisor stepped up and became the director...at least he tried. One day he had to go off and do another show and asked if anyone else wanted to step up and direct and keep some script notes. When nobody volunteered, I stepped up. I loved it. It was my directorial genius that had tommy bump into Lisa as they were taking the bad guy off the roof! I will also take credit for the now famous line "You are tearing me apart, Lisa!" In the first 10 takes, tommy kept saying "You are TAKING me apart!" As the crew tried to keep it together, I felt I should right the situation and corrected the line. The crew was also instrumental in keeping the chicken line in. "CHEEEEEPPPPPPP, CHEEP, CHEEP, CHEEP, CHEEP!" We begged our scripty/director to keep him doing it take after take. Though the crew ultimately followed the original DP out the door and quit, we are all proud to have taken part in the making of this film. Amongst the film crew realms, we are minor celebrities. "Dude, you worked on that thing?" is a phrase that is often heard when The Room is mentioned.

I have the pleasure of driving through Hollywood every day and still seei ng the billboard for the film up and Tommy glaring at me as if to say, "I telled you I could make movie." For those looking for a photo op, it's on Highland, a few blocks south of Sunset. I know that tommy took out an ad in the trade papers asking "For Your Consideration", I only wished that I could see him on stage accepting an Academy Award. It would be well earned. Rumor has it that he has a vampire film in the works... let's hope so... I only hope I get the opportunity to work on it. I can only hope that The Room becomes a cult classic with midnight showings. I'll put my tux on and bring a football. Perhaps I'll stand up for a Q&A afterward and tell the stories I have so fondly tried to burn from my memory. My other dream is for the DVD. There are 100's of hours of behind the scenes footage out there. The camera for the behind the scenes material was always recording. ALWAYS! It will be awesome to see what took place on our set. I hope he puts it out there. I know I would buy several copies for all my friends and family.

ordered it after i watched this for about the 7th time. don't think i could enjoy a midnight screening with the yelling people, but god i love this movie.

I didn't think I'd like the midnight screening, but it was so great. The other people in the audience pointed out things I'd never noticed, and you really have to see the movie on the big screen to understand how shabby a production it is.

watching this was pretty fun and hilarious but i really can't imagine wanting to do it ever again tbh

oh hiii slocki

hi

I have been unable to greet anyone with anything other than "oh hiii x" ever since I saw this movie 3 days ago.

Rumor has it that he has a vampire film in the works

Tommy Wiseau's Twilight would surely be the greatest movie ever.

I can definitely see him as some sort of weird Phantom of the Opera-esque vampire because he already looks that way anyway.

I'm getting images of blood-filled footballs. This is not healthy.

Don't worry about it!

But it's TEARING me etc.

Saw this tonight at a sorta midnight screening at Cinema 21. The theater staff had a large of soundtrack cds that they gave away free.

The film itself was sublime. Here's Tommy talking to the local alt-weekly in a nice long interview: http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/interview-with-tommy-wiseau/Content?oid=1573119

...Can you tell me more about the vampire movie you're working on?

Well this we may shoot at Austin, Texas, but I am... well, it'll be something unique, let's put it this way. So that's basically it. I think that a vampire, generally speaking, is an equal survivor of human behavior, somewhat to certain degrees, which is prolonging the life, if I may say that. So but. Whatever people believe in vampire or I believe in vampire, that's irrelevant, because I think the topic is, it's much more deep which actually relates to human behavior if you really think about it. Of course, all that stuff, it's sort of assumption and a lot of fantasy go into it. But the probability is very high if you really think about it, how you can prolong your life—have different blood type, or what is the....

I think this technology, you look at around you, we go so up, that I believe 10 years from today we probably don't need a doctor. You will have your own doctor, computers will say, "Okay, your sugar level is too low, you have to eat this or that, etc., etc." You know what I mean. Actually, I want to make a movie about this one, too, something like that. But the vampire is a very exciting project that I'm working on currently, yes.

Is that something you're writing?

I already have two scripts for vampires—100 page scripts. We do one at a time.

Are there two separate movies?

Yes. Two separate movies.

Are they connected, plot-wise? Is one a sequel of the other one?

Actually, one is connected somewhat. And one, I give you one clue, that it's connected to all the vampires which you see in the entire world. So it's very deep in the depth. Okay? And, um, [laughs] yeah I have crazy ideas right now, but I don't... Okay, I will tell you anyway. It's too bad that some other people are very snobbish, people who produce vampires movie. Because my vampires are very much connected to all the vampires, let's put it this way. So, I'm not giving more to you [laughs].

we took an informal poll and decided that his accent and source of funding were both armenian mafia.

Ok, so the soundtrack cd i was given wasn't actually a cd at all, but a promo dvd with trailers & such. This will be most effective in spreading the infection.

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-10/50164918.jpg

(ie, the LA Times goes 'oh hey there's this thing')

"Now it's shown on five screens and often sells out."

Wow. Who will fund (is funding?) his ent film?

Also his next film.

Tommy Wiseau's The Lord of the Rings

YOU'RE TEARING ME APART, SAURON

Oh Hi, Balrog!

He says he is working on a sitcom pilot called "The Neighbors" and has a vampire film in the works.

Oh man a Wiseau vampire movie would be so perfect.

You already put it best upthread!

I can definitely see him as some sort of weird Phantom of the Opera-esque vampire because he already looks that way anyway.

― Detroit Metal City (Nicole), Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:19 AM (4 months ago)

Oh hi, thread.

Saw this last weekend at a latenight screening theyre currently doing in Melb for a few weeks. The amount of screaming and cheering at the screen was amazing - got a bit annoying at times cos couldn't hear the dialogue, not that it really mattered.

Spoons EVERYWHERE, oh the humanity.

And do other screenings shout out implications at the end that Mark and Denny are giving Johnny's dead body a blowjob!?. Because they did here. Eww.

DON'T TAHCH ME, MATHERFAHCKER!

YOOAH TEARING ME APAAAHHHHT.

The bit where he trashes the house and tosses the TV out the window had the entire cinema screaming with cheers like a rock gig. I was crying with laughter because suddenly the bed was downstairs instead of upstairs, whaaaaat the fuck.

LOL even that trailer is as all over the place as the actual plot! Like the Denny vs Chris-R thing - what the heck happened? WHERE DID HE GO?

And at the party - who the fuck was that guy who started lecuturing Lisa. WHO THE HELL WAS HE. No introduction, nothing.

TVs behind couches. Endless continuity gaffes. Bad green-screening. TERRIBLE SEX SCENES. Whats not to love.

He and his pals play with a football in a manner that I've personally never seen before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ4KzClb1C4

Lisas mom "I'll go and clean up the kitchen now"
guy in audience: "WHAT FUCKING KITCHEN!!!???"

lol

this is the best movie

"That's me!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b64ZK7KDfTQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW28dYFNeWc

loooollllz

Has anyone else here been to screenings? I am curious to know if the BJ thing was just a Melb thing or not - it was hella gross (and once you thought it you couldnt un-think it!)

I didn't notice it at the SF screening.

Australians be dirty.

lolllllll @ Patton <3

I've been to 3 or 4 of the portland screenings. I don't think that joke is over here, but I'm usually too drunk to notice.

after seeing Tommy Wiseau and his fat, flabby ass banging away at some barely-legal skank not once, but TWICE, in this film w/ some generic R. Kelly-clone slow jamz blaring in the background -- i knew that this film crossed SOME sort of line that should never be crossed.

you're a chicken CHEEP CHEEP CHEEP

Eisbaer, I can't believe you called Mladen Milicevic and Kitra Williams's immortal classic "You're My Rose" a generic R, Kelly clone. Shame on you.

YOU ARE MY ROSE
YOU ARE MY ROSE
YOU ARE MY ROOOOOOOSE

after seeing Tommy Wiseau and his fat, flabby ass banging away at some barely-legal skank not once, but TWICE, in this film

Well it was once technically seeing as they blatantly just re-used the footage from the first time around, lol.

Oh god the sight of his butt scoured my brain forever.

and yes, mike nelson and the rifftrax crew had some fun at the expense of the room:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mMyV2YQgAA

lol @ the flower shop scene.

"How much is it?"
"It'll be eig---" "here you go! keep the change."

Oh hai guyz

Haiiiiiiii you mean

Does anyone else feel like the underwear story guy is a huge ham and maybe the only actor who realized how awful the whole production was? Every scene I see him in, he seems like he's super hamming it up.

His face during the blowjob is incredible.

Might go to the Red Vic midnight showing next weekend, I haven't seen it except for the clips above. Bringing some friends but worried they might hate me after...

Get ready for a highly participatory experience.

Presented in FeelAround

And do other screenings shout out implications at the end that Mark and Denny are giving Johnny's dead body a blowjob!?. Because they did here. Eww.

Yeah, this happened...
It was lots of fun! Love the underwear guy so much. And the scene with Tommy setting up the tape. And the line "your point of view is so different from mine!".

Oh I forgot about the tape thing, that was hilarous.

The film was *so consistently bad and incoherent* that I couldn't help wondering if it was deliberate, though people who worked on the film insist he really is just crap, so...

I came out completely baffled, like surely it takes quite a lot of effort and money to actually make a film yet to not give a flying fuck what anyone says in it or does or what it looks like...??

I love this movie so much.

Oh it's obviously real. There's way too much hurt shit in the flick and the guy himself is that cracked in real life to fake it.

And the line "your point of view is so different from mine!".

I was the only person at my showing who said this along with the movie.

http://www.avclub.com/chicago/articles/my-extended-evening-with-the-rooms-tommy-wiseau,38245/

You know what they say. Love is blind.

This movie is amazing at creating a very surreal atmosphere by trying to mimic everyday experiences (playing football, talking with your parents, having lots and lots of unfortunate sex) and failing in a completely unexpected way in every instance. I love the little details like the magical appearing vase, things that demonstrate a vision driven enough to continue on in the face of continuity issues. And the characters are all hilarious and tragic at once. A classic.

I want to see him and Christopher Walken in a buddy cop film. It would revive the genre.

call it Creep Out

Does anyone else feel like the underwear story guy is a huge ham and maybe the only actor who realized how awful the whole production was? Every scene I see him in, he seems like he's super hamming it up.

― Mordy, Saturday, March 20, 2010 2:12 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

i think the only actor who was aware of how awful and absurd the whole thing was was the "i feel like i'm sitting on an atomic bomb waiting for it to go off" guy.

I want to see him and Christopher Walken in a buddy cop film. It would revive the genre.

Holy shit this is the best idea ever someone pls email Walken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9H3-zaF0EY&feature=player_embedded

Meh. Just mean and not imho in the spirit of The Room and the joy it has brought my life.

zora and mortar?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6dtcHkMdAA

my favorite scene

My fave part of that scene:
"I had a 2,000 dollar check I couldn't cash."
"Why not?"
"Because it was an out of state bank."

Ignoring the fact that not being able to cash an out of state bank check is preposterous -- it sounds like Tommy was writing the script, got to that part and thought -- hmmm, this won't be believable that he had a check he couldn't cash. I'll need to explain it. This is a good explanation!

Yeah I remember laughing hard at that!

My beloved DDR game shouts out random phrases including "Youaahhh tearing it up" but each and every time I think it's gonna be "Youahhh tearing... me apart lisaaa!"

So how did you meet Lisa?

Well, there was this out-of-state check, you see...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ForaBSjKXic

lol came here to post that^

lisa actress is a real estate agent? http://www.praxismagazine.com/interview/jdan.htm

apolls if that interview's already been posted..

AR: What is your favorite line from the film?
”Leave your stupid comments in your pocket!”

<3

never would've made it through this watching on my own, but with a couple of friends it worked very well

Saw it for the 4th time last night.

i admit, i was singing "everywhere you look!" during all the Frisco footage, so it's funny that that's one of the live screening habits, but i don't know if i could bring myself to watch the movie a second time

I watch it stoned every time -- which is why I think I continue to enjoy it.

it's pretty enjoyable with or without drugs or alcohol, but it really benefits from having friends with you when you watch

http://twitter.com/TommyWiseau

I wish he would update. :(

<3 <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57eAL7TkjTc

he's an awesome interviewee:

http://notcoming.com/features/tommywiseau/

TW: You know what, if I had been in front of you, I would hug you.

So then I did the research. I’ve done so much research; my background’s acting and also psychology. So, to respond to your question, I think that people connect because it’s the real world. And, you know, we are very simple people when you really think about it. You may use fancy words, you may be a graduate from Stanford University or Berkeley, whatever, but it doesn’t mean that you connect with people, you know?

So there’s a lot of symbolism within The Room. From the beginning, it’s no secret that I’ve encouraged people to actually see it several times. You see, sometimes a certain group of media, they don’t give the creative process a chance, or they don’t give enough credit—but never mind about that. We all connect to The Room directly and indirectly, when you really think about it, if you’re honest with yourself.

And again, my take is also that I don’t expect everybody to love The Room, but I’m pretty sure that people will find at least an element, a sentence or word, or whatever else within The Room that connects with their life directly or indirectly.

Wow. Is it just that he seriously doesn't get *why* people go crazy over his movie? Or is he being obtuse on purpose?

MW:

As you know, a bunch of people who go to see The Room in the theatres love to throw spoons, and I just have to know: do the spoons have any significance in the movie?
TW:

Absolutely. You see, at first, we didn’t have plastic spoons in the world. But we used to, a long time ago – not even a long time ago – we had wood spoons. You see, plastic also represents the technology, but at the same time also created something that we don’t like, because plastic is not nature. But it can be part of nature, if we find a formula, how to create the plastic without chemicals, which I think we may do someday. Because now we have technology – I don’t know if you know about it, but I do know about it – that looks like plastic but it’s not plastic.

o_0

A couple of my friends are going to see it at The Ziegfeld on Friday, Wiseau is appearing. They're trying to drag me along, but I am not spending actual money ok, $15 to see this movie.

Seeee itttt

Yeah dude its not just a lol Bad Film. It really is an experience in a cinema if it already has a rabid fanbase.

I basically had NFI what was going on half the film (couldnt hear dialogue over the screaming!) but it didnt matter, it was too hilarious.

No, don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it already on DVD, watching with the same friends, two weeks ago! They've just gotten super invested in it now, wanting to see it again already, getting more people to see it... I just don't know if it's worth the effort and money to see it again, even in that crazy midnight showing audience. Amazingly, it looks like it's already sold out.

oh hai guyz.

tickets bought: http://www.brownpapertickets.com/event/108934

I get to ask him a question!

Ask him why Johnny + Lisa weren't horrified when Denny said he likes to watch them. Isn't someone voyeuring on your sex-life ridic creepy?

I tried to watch this by myself at home on DVD and got about 30 seconds into the second love scene before turning it off.
I guess you have to see it with a group.

I recommend drugs.

^^^

Just make sure it isn't PCP because that might be weird.

how did you guys miss the obvious response to

I recommend drugs.

WHAT KIND OF DRUGS, MORDY? WHAT KIND OF DRUGS DO YOU TAKE?

IT'S NO BIG DEAL!

STOP GANGING UP ON MEEE

I have always wanted to see this and I found the perfect occasion: the star will be coming to see it with me. I'm glad I never went ahead and saw this with one of my friend's that doesn't appreciate corny humor

Oh I see that the link that kclu posted last week was for the same event. Dang, I'm gonna have to preorder tix aren't I

yep, definitely. i don't know, though, you might still want to try to watch it beforehand if possible - from what i was told, it's not the best way to see it for the first time, since you won't hear half the dialogue over the drunken hooting and hollering

Ohhh

I can attest to that, I missed a great deal of the dialog due to the noise. Didnt matter, really. But still.

This was on in London recently but I couldn't find anyone who wanted to go so I didn't go and now I've read this thread I am SAD about that.

don't blame yourself for knowing decent people

nonsense; decent people will help you sneak booze into the theater

At the theatre they showed it at here you could buy beer and wine!

wow

ikr!

i was worried this was going to be just boring, but it wasn't at all. the audience participation stuff probably helped smooth things over, but damn, such an intense level of sustained shittiness.

I was thinking about this film the other day (as I often do) and I think it appeals to me for the same reason that TVtropes appeals to me. It deconstructs narrative to bare bones that, left as is, are totally meaningless. It's like some kind of unconscious dreaming id of human narrative -- like dreaming.

Every time I have to give my husband directions to somewhere that involve going on Guerrero Street he always asks if it's near the hospital.

Anyway, how is your sex life?

In honor of "Bay to Breakers" yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6dtcHkMdAA

What's this look that Denny + Mark are giving each other at 2:34 in that clip? Are they co-conspirators in something we're never shown? Does Denny distrust Mark because he suspects he's having an affair with Lisa? Is Mark secretly Denny's father? Are they just having eye-sex?

Not sure, but:

http://theroomsoundboard.com/

of course that website exists. how could it not

lol @ how many "I dont want to talk about it"s Lisa has. I noticed that when I watched the movie, by the end I was yelling "you never do you bitch!" at the screen.

I don't have anyone to go see this movie with. I might not go

Hey whoever just msged me re this thread I dont know who you are! lol stupid msg system.

really glad i saw this for the first time (like a week or two ago) with someone else, but not in a theater full of people I don't know. You definitely want to share the experience but I liked being able to rewind and not have people who know the film shouting over it. Really does live up to the hype whether you're someone who doesn't really do ironic films or does them all the time.

Yeah now ive done a cinema viewing I'd like to get a DVD out and watch it with some friends or a date. it'd be hilaro.

"hey, I'm thinkin' about moving into a bigger place, man, I'm making some good money"

might be my fave.

nm worked out who messaged me now lol.

has no bearing at all on the lines before or after, or the rest of the scene, or anything that happens in the rest of the movie. but the sound editing and cuts put it right in the scene, so effort went into putting it where it is, it's not a mistake.

xp

ha watching it again, i totally have that wrong. it IS the start of another conversation.

He's too busy to play cards because he expects Lisa at any minute, yet he subjects his buds to a rambling story then asks them if they want to eat something?

Holy hell, I had a DREAM about this movie last night. At first it was just me and some friends going to a showing, at which Wiseau was appearing. I remember walking around looking for a seat. and then the next thing I know I'm actually *in* the film, as a minor character. Lisa kept taking beers out of a large, commercial fridge and laughing very insincerely at everything.

wtf.

Saw this last night. LOL @ Q&A with Tommy Wiseau beforehand.

his responses were 1/3 incomprehensible gibberish, 1/3 cryptic hints ("the most famous person who has ever been to a screening of the room, is a woman and name starts with C. Ha ha!"), and 1/3 "that is a very boring question"

haha!

He also ended every answer with "I rest my case."

LOL I was gonna ask you for an update on this. How was the audience during the film? I'm actually curious if each city/country has developed its own diferent memes/jokes for shouting and whatnot.

Seeing this next Friday :)

xpost also interested in answer to Trayce's question, but keep the spoilers on the downlow!

Hahah there's so many YT trailers now that there's very little spoileration to be had, tbqh.

Hmm i guess, like I've seen the roof scene, the flowershop scene and lots of reviews, doubt that will detract massively though.

My main worry, if one film could call it that: I don't know if you've seen/heard of the Troll 2 cult fandom, but I worry that the film just won't be entertaining and worth sitting through apart from the odd lol/wtf moment. Maybe sitting in a big cinema after a few drinks with a good crowd could alter things though.

Have any of you seen it in London?

The Room is nothing like Troll 2. Troll 2 is really just a really bad, poorly acted film. The Room is transcendentally so - like really you won't be bored at all.

Yeah, Troll 2 is way more boring, although it has a few transcendent moments.

The opening 10 minutes or so defy belief.

Let me put this better..it's incredible bizarro comedy.

I buckle my belt real tight so I won't get hunger pains!!!!

I love Troll 2, but not for the same reasons as I love The Room. They're just different, both awesome in their own way.

Neither Troll 2 or The Room are boring. They're both truly "so bad they're good" movies. Where The Room has a leg up is its director/star, a singular human anomaly. We would like to study him.

last Friday:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs575.snc3/31359_806772464401_5014672_45943796_5804748_n.jpg

drove from Tampa to Atlanta for it!

Where'd you find that wax sculpture of him?

That isn't like a real person next to you....it's a mannequin or alien right?

You think that looks like plastic, you should see his arse in the movie :/

He's wearing a second belt round his knees!

Jeans, red tie and Marks and Spencer's blazer wtf

four belts in total

yeah someone asked him why he was wearing so many belts during saturday's Q&A, I think his response was that it was a secret

this man is made of secrets, it seems

And belts. Secrets and belts.

And melted plastic.

and the passion of tennessee williams

he said one of his favorite directors was "Orsol Wolles"

Haha ok that explains yr fb post.

nice lynndie!

Saw this tonight. Of course, it was phenomenally bad. But I just think of instead of sitting through the room for 80 minutes, I could've watched Bad Lieutenant instead.

Also it struck me that, no matter what he says in interviews, Wiseau probably set out to make a serious film, realised how awful it was during the process and amped that up for the finished product.

Some totally bizzaro wtf moments like that roof location, the football tossing, the sex scenes, the appalling continuity.

You can still watch Bad Lieutenant.

In fact, you should!

xp oh absolutely - this movie could never have been made by someone who didn't have the absolute conviction that he was making a "great" film

i think the imdb post upthread gives a decent picture of how the movie came to be the way it was.

Saw it again on Sat in SF. I think twice is enough for me :)
The only difference I noticed compared with last time is ppl were shouting out "Cancer!" a la "no returns" when the mom kisses Lisa (or anyone). Don't worry about it!

http://www.atom.com/funny_videos/drips_blood_alex_teaser/

...

So anyway The Room is finally playing in Glasgow at a midnight screening, and part of me really would like to go. However, I have limited funds and the same theatre is also having both a Kurosawa and a Claire Denis retrospective, and I would feel far too guilty about spending money on The Room while neglecting Rashamon or Beau Travail. I'm also not entirely convinced going to the cinema to laugh at cult movie crapdom is not an incredibly annoying, smug thing to do.

it's not

Its this thing.

the room will change ur life dude

so i downloaded & watched this recently. The scene at the beginning with Denny in the bedroom made me think the movie would have some interesting ideas -- johnny plays it cool with him being there; perhaps it's a social circle where nothing is private -- but no, the movie is just stupid.

i did like how lisa's mother was always vertically stretched.

the computer business is too competitive

btw I made Johnny, Lisa and Denny in the Sims 2. Denny is currently a teen but about to transition to an adult any day now, and naturally he and Lisa will begin an illicit affair. Lisa is the neighborhood skank.

the same theatre is also having both a Kurosawa and a Claire Denis retrospective, and I would feel far too guilty about spending money on The Room while neglecting Rashamon or Beau Travail

i can't advise you to neglect Rashamon or whatever in favor of The Room, but, The Room is pretty amazing and worth seeing and transcends mere "so bad, it's good" status. it's weirdly compelling in a way that inspires multiple viewings. everything about it, without exception is seriously bizarre...its attempts to portray conventional human behavior are consistently, hilariously "off"

the entire film is a series of stuff like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S9Ew3TIeVQ

i haven't watched it in a group setting, but i can imagine it being really fun

^ It sounds to me like you are the EXPERT, del!

0_o @ The-Room-as-Sims

btw I made Johnny, Lisa and Denny in the Sims 2. Denny is currently a teen but about to transition to an adult any day now, and naturally he and Lisa will begin an illicit affair. Lisa is the neighborhood skank.

― homosexual II, Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:40 PM (9 hours ago) Bookmark

lol <3

We want screengrabs

^ It sounds to me like you are the EXPERT, del!

(insert Tommy's inimitable dried-out laugh here)

so i downloaded & watched this recently. The scene at the beginning with Denny in the bedroom made me think the movie would have some interesting ideas -- johnny plays it cool with him being there; perhaps it's a social circle where nothing is private -- but no, the movie is just stupid.

Yr doin' it wrong. Watching it alone on a computer/TV at home looking for a watchable film is so utterly not the point of this movie.

Also, omg @ Room Sims, Mandee! You rule for that.

PSST:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c7ahqiCvF0&feature=player_embedded

Christopher Nolan + Tommy Wiseau, the two great auteurs of our time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlCTFLNNsk4

That vampire movie can't be as good as the Room, can it? You gotta figure Tommy's at least a little self-aware now.

http://more.stltoday.com/stltoday/entertainment/reviews.nsf/movie/story/8f5242a829a91f41862576e30000d1ac?OpenDocument

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/07/500x_custom_1280329794990_picture_308.jpg

Oh hai, vampires!

That vampire movie can't be as good as the Room, can it?

Has to be better than the Twilight movies already.

UH

http://www.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-10-tips-for-making-a-sex-tape-by-tommy-wiseau_1p.html

You have to go to places that I call "you never been before."

Update for: "Omg, you're watching that piece of trash again?"

The Room: The Game

can't believe i played through all of that

YES I WAS JUST COMING HERE TO POST THIS

CHIPTUNE THEME SONG AND ALL

Game was great. Not as great as the perfect film, of course, but a great homage.

Going to see this tonight in Brighton.

My co-worker spoke to Tommy Wiseau on the phone yesterday! I had no idea but apparently he distributes the DVD himself. So if a store wants to sell it, or rent it, they buy it from his production company (which I presume is him and dvd burner). Fascinating.

Scotchka!

he said one of his favorite directors was "Orsol Wolles"

This is still hilarious.

http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/the_return_of_tommy_wiseau_the_house_that_drips_blood_on_alex/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMH8vNhz9QI

Bluuuud.

What the fuck. OK - is he cashing in on his own lol value by making a bad pastiche of his own terribleness? Or is this whole thing some elaborate tim and eric skit?

Oh wait this is actually a parody piece. Carry on then.

lol, that's actually pretty catchy. Nice hook.

boy that brought a smile to my face

i love all of Lisa's wordless WTF looks in that video

Needs to happen:

http://madebyhk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/heath%20killen%20wiseau%20the%20room%20criterion%20450.jpg

yes plz with director's commentary AND actor commentary

I've downloaded this. Is it worth sitting through the whole thing?

yes

My feeling is that if you don't like the first half you won't like the second half either. It isn't for everybody.

But it is crucial that you watch it with other people, and go in expecting something terrible but sublime.

or you could watch it with the Rifftrax. it's like a little set of training wheels for those who can't stomach the full-on Room experience.

I've watched all the famous clips of course so feel I have built up a bit of a tolerance.

Who wants a The Room themed Christmas card?

Me!

Send me your address!

You can email me at spittake at gmail.

http://i52.tinypic.com/309o4jl.jpg

I love it!!! Thank you, tokyo rosemary!

Wow, I mailed it yesterday!

Glad you like it!

YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA

oh hi jumpskins

Oh hai Christmas!

I have the pleasure of driving through Hollywood every day and still seeing the billboard for the film up and Tommy glaring at me as if to say, "I telled you I could make movie."

This still cracks me up.

Mordy, you should get these:

http://www.etsy.com/listing/59274376/the-room-crowd-participation-and

i ordered the dvd of this off the official website to give to my sister for christmas, and tommy wiseau signed it "to (my sister), may all your dreams come true, love tommy w." i don't normally get starstruck, but i'm fangirling the fuck out right now.

on the other hand, tommy wiseau now knows where i live, so.

i'm watching this right now with people who have never seen it before. i love their startled reactions to how bizarre and strange it is.

thanks to you mordy i'm watching this right now again and i have no memory whatsoever of the scene where lisa's talking about denny's extra set of keys? i am so confused. and drnuk

lololol, this time i was just watching it and so much of the dialogue felt new. i think it's bc most of the dialogue is totally unnecessary and unmemorable so there's stuff you filter out every time you watch it. it's like a really great album, it repays repeated watchings.

well it was an out of state bank — ANYWAY...

what's the interesting part?

http://threeframes.net/tagged/the+room

that's bullshit I didn't hit her, I did NAAAT

oh hai doggie

Oh hai 3D

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldsezt8m0M1qzpwi0o1_500.jpg

it would be neat if he could combine the footage from the 2 cameras he used to make it 3d

^^wont really work unless they were the same, and from what i read one was film and the other was digital?

http://i.imgur.com/A7rcG.gif

woah. where's that from?

judging from how old Sestero looks, i'm thinking a special interview from within the last year

it's from an interview on cnn.com that is amazing.

link?

let me tell you this, you can not compare oranges to apples, or oranges to women, okay? I would never compare... the room is the room, that's the bottom line. whatever you guys compare, that's fine with me, but you can not compare.

lol thats him all over. "you can compare them but DONT compare them ok?"

Keep on truckin' tommy <3

Here's the link to part one: http://tinyurl.com/4ksgcjl

Epic! Is part two online anywhere? Can't find it....

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/02/01/exp.intv.room.ext2.cnn

Holy shit even the silence between the things they say is quotable.

Thanx poly p!

Always happy to spread the gospel of Tommy.

amzing

so what do you guys think? is greg in on the joke?

. . .

Greg thinks he is above it but is still milking it hard.

i could also kinda get them as friends where greg feels above it but his relationship with tommy is sincere

is greg still tommy's assistant?

OH NOES

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/02/scandal-tommy-wiseau-may-not-have-directed-the-room

I think it sort of goes without saying that Wiseau couldn't have made a feature film without a lot of help from opportunistic hacks like that guy.

also lol at the idea that this director somehow embraced the badness while tommy didn't. afaic they are all to blame (to praise really) for the end result.

o hai guys!

I gotta go to a cinema showing of this again. I haven't laughed so hysterically in all my life. I lost my voice from laughing and shouting at the screen.

i dunno, a friend of mine has interviewed quite a few cast members and it sounds like Wiseau was pretty involved as a director.

i mean this dude is wack. he filmed the whole movie pretty much with another dude cast as 'mark' and re-did it because the dude wasn't quite up to snuff (and casting his very eager personal assistant)

actually mark is the best. i am really glad he swooped in and made it amazing with lines like KEEP YOUR COMMENTS IN YOUR POCKET

"come on, it's clear"
"what's clear?"

Mandee you did a Sims of this didnt you? Did you ever get screenies? I cant recall.

oh man, i just can't figure women out. sometimes they're just too smart. sometimes they're flat-out stupid. other times they're just evil.

I already ordered a pizza.

Hai doggie

yeah I made Tommy, Lisa, Mark and Denny in Sims 2

Lisa looked EXACTLY LIKE LISA

Next time I use that computer, I'll take a screen cap.

:D

Tommy is faaaaaaded in this interview.

Really started LOLling in the 1st part when they're talking about football.

"Go to any park in AMERICA! They play football three feet away! You can do eeet!"

re: the "scandal"--this comment pretty much explains what happened

got a kick out of this - from imdb:

The Best Movie....EVER!!!, 29 February 2004
Author: houndog5 from los angeles

OK, that may be a stretch, but I have inside knowledge into the facts. You see, I was fortunate enough to have worked on the film. As I read the reviews here, especially the last one, which I am sure was written by our amazing Director/Actor/Producer/Writer, I felt I had to respond. Having the dubious honor of saying I worked on this film, has also brought with it the responsibility of telling the truth about what happened on set. Apparently Tommy had a lot of money sitting around and decided he needed to make a film. Not being able to decide what to shoot, film or video, we shot both. Side by side. Both cameras on the same head, being operated by one camera operator. We shot almost the whole thing in the parking lot and back storage shed (read- sound stage) of a camera rental house in Hollywood. I got the call to work on the show after they had already tried to start with another crew that ended up all being dismissed. I believe that we ended up being crew 2 of 4. The show never had much organization to it from the start. We were told it would be a 3 week shoot. At the end of 3 weeks we were exactly 1/2 way done. Crew calls were usually 8 a.m. tommy would show up around 10:30 or 11. Because he would take the HD video camera home with him every night, we had no choice but to wait for him. Since we were only in one room or outside the door in the parking lot, we did not have anything to do but sit around and wait every day. When Tommy arrived we would have to see if he was in actor mode or director mode. If he was in actor mode, you were not allowed to talk to him so he could "stay in character." Since he was in almost every scene, he was always in his "actor" mode. This also meant that he could not direct. Noting the huge delays every day and the fact that we were never seeming to get anything done, our wonderful script supervisor stepped up and became the director...at least he tried. One day he had to go off and do another show and asked if anyone else wanted to step up and direct and keep some script notes. When nobody volunteered, I stepped up. I loved it. It was my directorial genius that had tommy bump into Lisa as they were taking the bad guy off the roof! I will also take credit for the now famous line "You are tearing me apart, Lisa!" In the first 10 takes, tommy kept saying "You are TAKING me apart!" As the crew tried to keep it together, I felt I should right the situation and corrected the line. The crew was also instrumental in keeping the chicken line in. "CHEEEEEPPPPPPP, CHEEP, CHEEP, CHEEP, CHEEP!" We begged our scripty/director to keep him doing it take after take. Though the crew ultimately followed the original DP out the door and quit, we are all proud to have taken part in the making of this film. Amongst the film crew realms, we are minor celebrities. "Dude, you worked on that thing?" is a phrase that is often heard when The Room is mentioned.

I have the pleasure of driving through Hollywood every day and still seei ng the billboard for the film up and Tommy glaring at me as if to say, "I telled you I could make movie." For those looking for a photo op, it's on Highland, a few blocks south of Sunset. I know that tommy took out an ad in the trade papers asking "For Your Consideration", I only wished that I could see him on stage accepting an Academy Award. It would be well earned. Rumor has it that he has a vampire film in the works... let's hope so... I only hope I get the opportunity to work on it. I can only hope that The Room becomes a cult classic with midnight showings. I'll put my tux on and bring a football. Perhaps I'll stand up for a Q&A afterward and tell the stories I have so fondly tried to burn from my memory. My other dream is for the DVD. There are 100's of hours of behind the scenes footage out there. The camera for the behind the scenes material was always recording. ALWAYS! It will be awesome to see what took place on our set. I hope he puts it out there. I know I would buy several copies for all my friends and family.

― mr. me too (rockapads), Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:53 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark

Yeah I was thinking of that as well. If its true (and it seems like it could be) it makes a ton of sense. ha.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/someone-else-actually-wants-credit-for-directing-t,51787/

Of course, Schklair quit working on the film after only a month or so, and he’s been more or less quiet about his alleged larger role until now—which is conveniently timed with his upcoming gig directing the new TNT show Franklin & Bash, and driven by his own stated goal to “get his name out there.” Evidently, he believes "Director, The Room" would be a worthwhile addition to his portfolio. As to why he waited nearly eight years until a suspiciously opportunistic time availed itself, Schklair says that he was encouraged to finally come forward and talk to the press by Franklin co-star Malcolm McDowell, which is just weird to think about. The idea of Malcolm McDowell holding serious counsel with anyone on The Room is, frankly, bizarre. Anyway, the likelihood of Wiseau ever forfeiting his directing credit is obviously slim, but the story does add an interesting new wrinkle to that inevitable Tommy Wiseau biopic some 20 years from now.

anyway, how's your sex life?

question to all: would you bang Tommy Wiseau?

oh lord no. He looks like melted PVC.

his skin is all reptilian and leathery

The sight of his naked butt humping has forever been scarred into my memory. It is cruel.

Hypothetically if I already banged him would I have to rebang him

that'd be okay tho -- you could just reuse all the same moves from the first time

He was my rose, he was my rose, he was my rooooooose

Oh great now that damn song is going to be stuck in my head all day haha.

for the record: I totally would, for novelty value

Hahah way to go <3

I suppose it would be a great icebreaker to be able to casually say to someone "yeah I fucked Tommy Wiseau once" *sip vodka*

Did anyone ever get to the bottom of where he comes from and how he financed the movie? He says he's from Louisiana but he's obviously not American born. He says he's lived in France but he doesn't sound French. His surname seems to be either extremely rare or made up, probably the latter.

mandee otm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW28dYFNeWc

It's up there.

oh hi

by that I mean; here's the part you all missed -

"Lisa...what a great party...and you brought all my friends GOOD THINKING!!"

also did anyone catch the final scene where Denny runs up to Johnny and shouts out "Tommy!" ?

lol yes. i love that moment. the fiction has collapsed and you are staring into the void of Wiseau's reality

the interview on the DVD was incredible as well. just like in the movie, they clearly dub over half his lines. why not just shoot it again? it's full of cuts anyway.

also did anyone catch the final scene where Denny runs up to Johnny and shouts out "Tommy!" ?

― frogbs, Friday, April 1, 2011 7:31 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

Yeah, then he appears to blow dead Johnny!

This was supposed to air on adult swim a while back. I can't believe I didn't remember to tape it :(

it aired on Adult Swim 17 hours ago, and wtf you still TAPE movies off tv that are readily available on DVD?

I still haven't seen it

maybe you meant DVR or Tivo or something i was mostly weirded out by the idea of taping a movie on VHS

14 bucks over paypal will get you an autographed copy direct from the man himself.

I DVRed it last night and am watching the first part of it now. I love Adult Swim's solution to the sex scene problem.

Wiseau's dialogue is really something. Even little things like when Claudette says "I've always thought of him as my son-in-law." Who says that?!

Also, this is pretty great:

http://theroomnovelization.blogspot.com/2010/06/chapter-i.html

just played "the room" newgrounds game and really hated it

like, it's impressive that someone would do all that, but seriously, who would play through all that

Wiseau's dialogue is really something. Even little things like when Claudette says "I've always thought of him as my son-in-law." Who says that?!

The dialogue is definitely one of the weirder parts of the movie, that's kind of the source of most of the WTF moments in the film, just little things like Mark randomly saying "I'm thinking of moving into a bigger place...I'm making good money now" apropos of nothing is what makes this so good. I just noticed that none of the characters really have any reason to enter or leave a scene. It's always "well, I gotta go", or "hey, I was just uh...wondering if I could talk to Johnny", or "I need to borrow a cup of sugar". Also totally love the guy who plays the boyfriend of the sister, he's not in the movie long, but every scene with him is ridiculous.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljrxzkIl7P1qdth1ho1_500.jpg

:D

I seriously used to watch this movie twice a day.

Tommy Wiseau's "The Face"

i watched this with my mates and they just thought it was boring and shit. they didn't "get it" at all.

OK, so this.

I saw in it a cinema. I didn't bring spoons.

you know, i have still never seen this

at this point though it kinda feels like reading the bible. i'm so familiar with the big scenes from reading about them in other places that what's the point.

xxp did you see the movie beforehand? if not I would think it would be a pretty confusing experience

also, it's totally worth seeing anyway - i didn't find the youtube clips funny at all when I first saw them, but once you watch the movie and see the absurdity unfold, it's much much better

No, first time seeing it. It didn't take long to get up to speed. It's not like the fan shoutbacks are terrifically complicated.

I don't think it would be nearly as good watching it at home. At the theater you've got the collective drunk hivemind shouting things at the screen, throwing spoons, etc

I was struck by how competent the actual photography and sound were. I think that's kind of the key - how totally at odds that is with the quality of the writing, acting, editing. If it just looked like crap it would be no different from a thousand other shitty vanity movies.

I wasn't really prepared for the ass-grinding though.

i feel like it's one of those "bad" movies that is actually incredibly entertaining to watch . it's pretty amazing . if the flower shop scene easily youtubed appeals to you at all "hi doggie!", then you should probably take in the whole thing. also, i can't believe i'm typing this out loud, but his love interest in the movie is incontrovertibly hella sexy. there, i said it.

also, one of the best names for a film ever. it's not called the thin green line or the endless mile or the scarlet pumpernickel or whatever. it's called "the room". it's the cinematic equivalent of kierkegaard walking around with one pant leg shorter than the other. just because...

the girl was what I'd consider "informercial hot", as in she's not really leading lady type material but you can talk yourself into believing it.

CLOSE THE DOOR!!!!

just because this thread happened to take on a sweaty locker room-ish vibe doesn't mean you need to resort to your outdoor voice. sheesh.

Oh god looking through the YouTube clips.. is just.. like I actually didn't hear about 50% of the dialogue in this movie because people were yelling so much. The flower shop scene is amazing, she's like "Oh hi Johnny, I didn't realize it was you!" Yeah how could you, guy is unrecognizable with his shades on

At one point they're all wearing tuxedos?? I never figured out why

Strongo, you should totally still see it. Familiarity of clips didn't ruin the overall vibe at all - seeing it alone might be a chore, but worth some kind of date/group viewing, assuming you don't mind being a cliche.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpfPmvG6CHI&feature=related

"You're right. The computer business is too competitive."

They're wearing tuxes because they're doing a wedding rehearsal, right? I never really figured that out either

I've seen a lot of bad movies - including the one with the infamous "GARBAGE DAY!!" scene (still my favorite scene of all time). The Room is kinda like that scene, over and over again. It's so perfect that it rises above parody. Especially the scenes with the guys just hangin' out, talking women, and throwing footballs. Like, "so, how is your sex life?" is a funny line, but the way he says it apropos of nothing in some random coffee shop conversation is what makes it so great.

yeah, it's pitch-perfect wtf-ness nonstop.

oh i think we all know i don't mind being a cliche, croup.

i tend to think bad movies like "Snakes on a Plane" or "Birdemic" will probably be forgotten in a few years, but "The Room" is going to be a classic my whole life

It's kind of amazing someone could still pull off an Ed Wood-ian triple threat with seemingly no self-awareness at this late a day, but Tommy Wiseau, man...Tommy Wiseau.

I was hopeing a thread like this ouiwld come

I have this movie on both my ipods for quick viewing at any time

if anyone ever makes another movie about a man who was raised on Mars for 30 years, then given a human form and transported to Earth in an attempt to blend in and make friends with humans, Tommy Wiseau should play that man

UNFROZEN CAVEMAN LAWYER: THE MOVIE

The Goofball Who Fell To Earth

see how great it is when total creative control is given to a madman?

It's also important that he have no access to any actors or crew members with more than the most basic levels of competence at their disposal

i'm pretty sure europeans can think of some times when that didn't pan out so good

xpost

Roman Polanski?

It's a good thing Tommy was able to explore his artistic impulses rather than enter politics in whatever magical country he came from

Latveria, maybe

if anyone remakes kiss meets the phantom of the park we at least know we've got our gene

It's a good thing Tommy was able to explore his artistic impulses rather than enter politics in whatever magical country he came from

for whatever reason I'm really hoping that his real place of origin never gets leaked. there are so many questions about the guy, but he talks SO MUCH and everything he says just adds more questions while resolving nothing. that's part of what makes him so awesome.

It's also important that he have no access to any actors or crew members with more than the most basic levels of competence at their disposal

the crew seemed decent though didn't they? the actors were not great but most of them were like 4th or 5th choices and aren't even really actors so for that they did alright. the only actively terrible actor was the guy who was dating Lisa's sister, he seemed to be the only one who didn't play his part straight at all. the problems with the movie had to do with the pacing and the dialogue, which Tommy apparently was reluctant to change no matter how much the actors tried to "help him out". apparently in the first cut he kept saying "you're TAKING me apart, Lisa!"

i know it's been posted already but this interview with Lisa is so good:
http://www.praxismagazine.com/interview/jdan.htm

Lisa's sister

?!?!?!?!?

or friend? i think her name was michelle. he's the guy who's making out with her on the couch when his underwear mysteriously ends up in the cushions

the crew seemed decent though didn't they?

I SAID basic competence

"me underwears" he calls them xp

yeah what is with that guys jaw???

i like the story about how he was a negligent director b/c he would disappear every 10 minutes or so in order to psyche himself into character

I like the doctor in the movie - he is such an awful psychologist - for no reason he suddenly labels Lisa a psychopath - just becuase she is having an affair

I'm going to start referring to sneaking booze as "psyching myself into character" now

xp probably the best character is the guy who he inexplicably gets replaced with like 80% of the way into the film

you mean the "i feel like i'm sitting on top of an atomic bomb waiting for it to explode"-guy

the only actively terrible actor was the guy who was dating Lisa's sister, he seemed to be the only one who didn't play his part straight at all

C'mon this guy was great! Such a natural "freaky jock". I've known guys like him.

I. Am wAtching magical mystery tour right now which is I nfinetly unwatchable. At least the room is endearing. What r

Btw anyone see Troll 2??

It's an entertaining film but not quite in the same league of ed woody wtf. Especially fun for a cheap 80s horror but fits that fomat well enough.

Who Here Has Seen Troll 2?

don't you link at me!

you know, i have still never seen this

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Friday, June 17, 2011 1:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

at this point though it kinda feels like reading the bible. i'm so familiar with the big scenes from reading about them in other places that what's the point.

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Friday, June 17, 2011 1:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

it's still worth seeing! the great thing about this movie is the all-you-can-eat levels of wtf-ness even during the scenes that haven't already been youtubed to death.

ok that's overselling it a bit, but still

also u should read the bible

it's nuts man!

lb otm

Also would like to add that, despite the fact that everyone thinks it's necessary to watch this movie in a group, the best part of watching it alone is that you can unselfconsciously skip the sex scenes. They're just too much.

If you skip the sex scenes you are skipping the sex scene songs, and I would never want to do that.

YOU ARE MY ROOOOOOOSE

srsly, the pain of watching those sex scenes is essential

belly button thrustin'

leathery reptile-skinned gyrating tommy in those scenes one of the crowning achievements of the film imho

we finally watched Birdemic last night and it is incomparable to the Room. the former is your standard poorly made terrible flick. The Room is sublime.

wouldn't say that Birdemic is "standard", I have never seen nor could I imagine a movie as poorly made as that one, but yeah, you can't really compare the two. before I watched The Room I was told a lot of things like "it's not just your standard "so bad it's good flick, it's something different" - 20 years from now nobody will remember stuff like "Snakes on a Plane" but I'll bet they're still watching The Room

it was exceptionally poorly made, yes, but I could barely watch it bc of that. soooo boring.

"quiet storm"

it's better if you've ever tried to make movies in high school with a group of friends since it kind of brings back memories

obviously birdemic is terrible since it gets off on the wrong foot right away via an excruciating credits scene - I mean the movie is 45 minutes in before the plot goes anywhere at all...pretty remarkable

Strongo, you really should see the Room. Trust me.

i dunno. i read the bible yesterday and it was pretty bad. i'm not ready to get burned again.

The bible is not as essential.

Jesus wants to be like Johnny, but comes off more like Denny.

About Denny:

AVC: What do you think Philip Haldiman brought to the role of Denny?

TW: I think he brought a lot stuff. One thing was people actually, he’s really retarded a little bit.

"jesus, two is great but three's a crowd."

I love hwen denny says he feels like he wants to kiss lisa and TW is like "Thats OK man" then later when someone actually does he kill shimself

it's ok to feel that way, man. it's not okay to actually do it.

WHAT KIND OF MONEY WAS IT, JESUS!?

WHAT KIND OF DRUGS DO YOU TAKE!?

WHAT THE HELL IS WRON GIWTH YOUU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8Rqx-ggj6w

i will never tire of this wonderfulness even if alray posted

well it is time somebody ganged up on you, FOR GOD'S SAKE...it matters a GREAT DEAL

i love how you hear somewhat in the background "Let's take him to the police!" and they're back literally two minutes later

oh god that scene is incredible.

yeah - there must be a cop in the building at all times

If you think I'm tired today, wait until you see me tomorrow.

As far as I'm concerned, you can drop off the Earth. That's a promise.

"Lets toss the football around!!!!"

the IMDB page on this is so great

Errors made by characters (possibly deliberate errors by the filmmakers): Johnny claims that he couldn't cash a check because it was "out of state." However, it is entirely possible to cash an out of state check. Johnny, a banker, should know this.

whats funnier is that whole story is stupid but I love the line "WHAT NO TIPS FROM YOUR JOB??"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYagPbRTAdw&feature=fvwrel

As far as I'm concerned, you can end up in a hospital on Guerraro Street. That's a promise.

lol "Do you understand life"

it seems to me, that you should be the expert!

"why lisa why why why"

god, forgive me...

forgive me for showing my striated ass too much

it seems to me, that you should be the expert!

hahaha this one has entered my own personal lexicon in a major way.

still hoping that the neighbors actually materializes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGpwxHMUndk

ra ra rass, she' got a nice aaaaaa.....

that trailer is so much like a stella skit. even the music fits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnnTqFTHGuc&feature=related

hahaha this one has entered my own personal lexicon in a major way.

mine are "leave your *stupid* comments in your pocket" and "I feel like I'm sitting on an atomic bomb waiting for it go to off!"

i have a friend named Mark whose facebook page has been totally vandalized with "What a story, Mark" after every post. dunno if it'll ever stop

I like using "WHAT no tips from your job " like for example if there is no frosting on the cake
"what no frosting !"

what the hell is with that guy who is only in the party scene - he happens upon lisa kissing mark and he is like WHATS GOING ON HERE - what an asshole - mind your own business.
He is such a random character/plot hole

apparently the guy who played Kevin (??) (the dorky looking dude who trips while playing football) quit midshoot so he was replaced by this guy who I think is "Steve"

he's one of the most awesome parts of the movie, he gets no introduction or anything, he just shows up and becomes a major character for like 5 minutes

yeah, I love that guy too!

also, the phrase "future wife" cracks me up every time tommy drops it.

lol - I wonder why everyone didnt quit. what were they thinking? they must have known that they were in a disaster

apparently they all got paid well and I think a lot of them knew the kind of "potential" this film had

are the roof scenes blue-screened? I cant decide

Green-screened, Phantom Menace-style. They did a 360-degree shot in SF and filmed the scenes in a studio in L.A.

In fact, almost all of it was filmed in LA, I think, which is why they take great pains to insert "THIS IS SAN FRANCISCO HERE IS TOMMY ON A STREETCAR HERE IS A BRIDGE" shots.

I thought so - it looks weird
I like how mark almost murders tah psychologist guy on the roo fthen he's like - "uh sorry man
"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJRKC3nKCTE

same acting skill

http://www.shadesofday.com/trailer.htm

What's up, Mr. Pistol?

iz tht aanother wiseau film?

Friday
Friday

please give me more wisea wisdom

this movie seriously gets better every time you see it. Sestero constantly asking "what's going on here? why are you doing this?" every scene is possibly the best part of the film now.

It really is a majestic offering isn't it? I love that strange young college boy who seems at once mentally challenged and yet also in college? He doesnt get the message "see you later we are going up stairs to ball" and just goes up to their bedroom and jumps on their bed like some deranged puppy - yet they are delighted with him not like "wtf get away you dick"

also one thing I never noticed is how weird the whole thing with Claudette and Denny is on the roof with Chris-R, because the film suggests that they just met each other for the first time like two minutes prior, so I don't know why she feels the need to yell at him like that

btw this is my favorite Room-related anything, it's one of the only parody videos that actually captures the spirit of the movie quite well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHoASUCa_0s

that is the best - she really goes beerserk - what must that poor grandma actor have been thinking ? "my career is over"
I also love the fact that they take the man with a gun away and retun in like 30 seconds but he went to jail in that time frame

I just imdb'd her, she didn't really have a "career" per se but apparently she was on an episode of That's My Bush! I just love the way she turns around every phrase - "it doesn't matter"..."it matters a great deal!!" "stop ganging up on me"..."well it's about time someone ganged up on you!!" (again, they just met)

i showed this to a friend of mine recently. he didnt laugh once but told me after it ended that he found it "strangely moving"!

Maybe he once had a girlfriend who liked to wear his ties and cheat on him.

Possibly.

i can get why someone would find it moving. it's clearly very deeply felt by wiseau, and it seems like such a personal document of pain + misery.

that freind of yours is strange

You're so beautiful Lisa

sad at no lisa rear shots while in bed but Tommy W ones a plenty

https://fbcdn-photos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/179171_10151024377048058_318012754_s.jpg

I think Sestero said something along those lines, that Tommy did actually have a Lisa, a Mark, and a Denny in his life (which may explain why Denny's a major character even though he has pretty much nothing to do with the plot)

lets play football at a distance of three feet!

Question: Is it worth paying a 50% surcharge to see The Room at a screening where Wiseau and Sestero are scheduled to appear?

How much is the total cost?

I loved seeing it live, and need to go to a screening again sometime.

Wiseau is not alive anymore

I never got to go to one (Chicago, which is 150 miles away, is the closest he's ever gotten) but my brother went and said it was probably the best thing he's ever been to.

Happy Birthday Greg Sestero. I hope his book will be good.

How much is the total cost?

$15 (compared to a standard $10).

i say yes, go. absolutely.

dude I went to see the showing w/Wiseau&Sestero when they came to town here. HOLY SHIT. on this tour Tommy Wiseau asks people from the audience to come onstage to play a game & win some Room-related prizes. then after like 40 people have lined up he tells them they have to catch this crumpled-up water bottle that Sestero throws at them twenty-five times in a row without dropping it. why? there is no explanation. who really knows if dude is just playing up his weirdo angle because that's all he's got left, but both times I've seen him I have thought this guy is literally the most absurd human being. also he wears a second belt just around the bottom of his ass, presumably to make his ass look good.

Tommy Wiseau asks people from the audience to come onstage to play a game & win some Room-related prizes. then after like 40 people have lined up he tells them they have to catch this crumpled-up water bottle that Sestero throws at them twenty-five times in a row without dropping it. why? there is no explanation.

That makes it a perfect Room-related game then.

he is a demoen

I've always been one to suspect that some guys try to act a lot weirder in public than they actually are, but based on everything I've read about Tommy he really is that strange. Sestero's book should shine a lot of light on this, he's already said that it really asks more questions than it answers, but it should explain a lot of the stranger lines in the movie

how did wiseau get the money to make this thing anyway?

that'll be in the book! (apparently he claimed to import jeans or something, but really who knows. apparently the cast/crew was paid pretty well!)

his actual response to that question:

"We import from Korea the leather jackets that we design here in America. If you work, you have to save money, right? I didn't get money from the sky."

I love that first sentence

haha - he speaks weirdo

i love this quote

AVC: What do you think Philip Haldiman brought to the role of Denny?

TW: I think he brought a lot stuff. One thing was people actually, he’s really retarded a little bit.

I’m working about vampires movie as well, it’s the other movie where we’re shooting in San Francisco again. I say shooting, I didn’t say shot, because somebody misquote me and I hate that. Somebody wrote “He is shooting,” I say, “I’m not shooting, I shot or shooting, I know what the present past or whatever you talk about.”

how could someone misquote this???

these quotations are golden - more

During some of the emotional scenes, like the “You’re tearing me apart” scene, how did you work with the actors or with yourself to draw on these emotions? There was so much emotion in a lot of the scenes.

One of the things is I’m very pro this rehearsal process. You see, the emotion you draw from your experiences but also I believe it does help me because of my background in the theater. You can draw emotion, you can fake emotion, but I don’t believe in be fake, to be honest with you. I can do the scene with you right now if you want me to. Give me the words I will present it to you. You want to test me, it’s fine with me, Rachel. By the way, we have several people who have test me and guess what? They lost.

(later)

I am going to take you up on your offer to test you on your ability to add emotion to a scene. Let’s say I stood you up for drinks.

Are you talking to Tommy or the character Johnny?

Johnny.

Okay, Johnny, sure no problem. So Rachel, why didn’t you show up for the… we’re supposed to drink, right?

We were, I’m sorry I didn’t come, I met someone else.

(Screaming) Why are you doing this to me, you know? I spent my time. Why you did this, right? You supposed to show up 2:00, I was waiting for you.

I met someone else, I’m sorry.

Sorry doesn’t cut it, I’m sorry! Sorry doesn’t cut it, what do you think?

I think that I can make my own decisions, Johnny.

I’m sorry Rachel, but this is not how it works, you know? I left Lisa for you and I thought we had going on something together and now what?

Maybe you should go back to Lisa then.

Yeah, yeah, I almost got into an accident for your information. You know that, don’t you? Did Mark tell you about it? You confuse me with another boyfriend, my name is Johnny.

Can I make it up to you and cook you dinner?

Are you promise?

I promise.

Okay, I will try. What time?

7:00.

Okay, I will be there. Scene! So who lost?

I lost.

Thank you, I didn’t say you lost. That was good sport.

I never viewed acting as a domination sport where it was me vs my scenemates

*revelation*

he is rather intimidating on Tim and Eric

Sestero was born in Walnut Creek, California and grew up in Danville, California. He is of French and American descent with dual citizenships, and speaks both French and English.[1] During his freshman year of high school, Sestero wrote a screenplay, a sequel to the 1990 film Home Alone, with a leading role for himself opposite actor Macaulay Culkin. Sestero submitted the screenplay to Hughes Productions and received a commendatory letter from the late 1980s icon John Hughes.[2]

Sestero - what a prettyboy

http://assets1.theroomsoundboard.com/LeaveYourCommentsPocket.mp3

thank you poly

this guy is like the Wesley Willis of filmmakers

"laisser vos commentaires stupides dans votre poche"

great for leaving messages on people machines!
http://theroomsoundboard.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEfJ4jEH69A&feature=related

Sestero was at the screening when I saw it for the first time. He gave out sexy posters.

he IS sexy

From this interview with Michael J. Nelson:

Jamie: Have you gotten requests [to riff The Room]?

Mike: We did an MP3 version of it, we haven’t thought about it for a live show. But that one rises above, too. You have to see Tommy Wiseau’s nude backside, unfortunately, and I don’t know if I can subject a live audience to that.

Jamie: Well, I think in New York you could, because that movie is huge here.

Mike: Is it? Do they still do midnight shows and stuff?

Jamie: Yes they do. So, if you do ever decide to do The Room live, I would definitely suggest doing it in New York.

Mike: That’s a good thought. We have not staged it from New York, we’d always wanted to, so maybe The Room launch would be a good one.

Jamie: Have you ever gotten any responses from current filmmakers after riffing one of their movies?

Mike: Yeah! Well, I wouldn’t say it was an angry response, but Tommy Wiseau did call us. We had a long phone conversation with Tommy Wiseau, which I confess, we were trying to keep him on the phone as long as we could. Because it was just so much fun to listen to. But I really think that he didn’t understand the concept, and he thought that we were selling his movie, and we were trying to explain over and over, “No, we were just selling an MP3 that people can either choose to listen to or not,” and he insisted, still, that “Well, you still owe me money,” and we were like, “No! It’s a separate thing!” But then we eventually talked to the guy who played Mark. He’s a good guy, he listened to the RiffTrax, and he liked it a lot. So he explained to Tommy what it was, and said, “No, no, they’re just poking fun at the movie like everybody else.” So he understood that.

We had a long phone conversation with Tommy Wiseau, which I confess, we were trying to keep him on the phone as long as we could.

haha. I just imagine them scrambling to attach their recording gear to the phones as they talk and signalling for everyone else in office to listen in on.

Also, I like how Greg Sestero is like the only guy on the planet who can translate reality in a way such that Tommy understands.

"Part of why it took me so long to rent this is because the cover art is this guy's creepy face that creates an impression of darkness. But parts of the movie made it seem like the thinks he's portraying the perfect man or something, like with the roses and all that. But he had this weird, creepy, dark presence, in the midst of everyone else who just seemed bland and insipid.
The dialogue was so odd, lines often didn't seem to logically follow one another and it seems like characters just kept looping back to repeat certain things over and over, like "don't worry about it." "everything will be fine'. "it doesn't matter. "it doesn't make any difference" when it made no sense...
Like "I have cancer.' "Don't worry, everything will be fine.
"What kind of drugs are you using"? "it makes no difference"
Or a person would bring something up, then say, "I don't want to talk about it' or get angry at the other person for pursuing it, or a person would come to the house and then say one minute later " I have to go now".
Just a really failed attempt at creating reality with regard to banal things like drinking coffee, tossing a football around, having a conversation with your mom, etc."

"Yeah it seemed like it was made by aliens with cursory knowledge of human life.
At first I didn't really get whether Denny was meant to be an adult or a child."

"Maybe that bit with Denny was meant to show how reasonable, trusting, patient and understanding Johnny could be about such things to emphasize his betrayal more.
And perhaps Denny's love was meant to be revealed as more of an innocent crush, or to show cracks in the fabric of their lives.
He seemed very intrusive on their relationship in general, jumping on their bed and all that.
The love scenes were very icky and I was taken about when the third one arrived so shortly after the second. Was it meant to show how awful the gf was, that she could fake her way through something like that so soon after betraying him?"

"That reminds me, what is the significance of the tape recording when they'd already confessed? Was it mostly in hearing his friend say "I don't like him anymore"? They made such a thing of it, but the affair was already clear from other things?"

a Room virgin speaks
the puzzle goes on ....

fucking brilliant movie. i watched this 50 times in the month after i discovered it.

That's another part of the big mystery of the movie, even its outward presence is confusing. The title of the movie makes no sense whatsoever. The cover with the spooky-looking Wiseau portrays his character as evil or creepy, when in reality he's the honest, hard-working good guy. And the quote on the DVD (something like "Enjoy this quirky black comedy, it's a riot!") is also confusing as it implies that this was meant to be a dark comedy, which I really do not like is the case. Maybe I'm just not cynical enough but there is no way this was meant to be a comedy. There are definitely some bits that are meant to be funny or lighthearted but that quote makes it seem as though Wiseau was aiming for this kind of response. Like say the horse_ebooks twitter account there is something decidedly non-human about it. It's like if an early version of IBM's Jeopardy computer Watson was asked to write a screenplay. You can see a computer coming to a conclusion of "men like to play sports casually as a form of bonding, but we also need dialogue in this scene, so all the characters must throw a football while five feet apart" or "most movies use illness as a subplot to create drama, so we will give a character cancer".

I watched this and Birdemic for the first time within a week of each other. While Birdemic is also a perfect storm of shitty filmmaking, shitty acting, and a low budget, there have been movies like it in the past (of course, there's the infamous Plan 9...) With The Room you really get the sense that <i>there will never be another movie like this again</i>.

okay some questionable word choices above but I think you get the point

(something like "Enjoy this quirky black comedy, it's a riot!") is also confusing as it implies that this was meant to be a dark comedy, which I really do not like is the case.

it was a post-hoc marketing move to capitalize on the fact that people thought it was so bad it was funny. clearly it was not intended to be funny.

I watched this and Birdemic for the first time within a week of each other. While Birdemic is also a perfect storm of shitty filmmaking, shitty acting, and a low budget, there have been movies like it in the past (of course, there's the infamous Plan 9...) With The Room you really get the sense that there will never be another movie like this again

i did this too. and yes, they are qualitatively different movies. Birdemic is just bad and cheap, like many movies before it. The Room is on a different plane altogether. It is almost Lynchian in its execution, where nothing is as it initially seems. It genuinely straddles a three-way fence of high art, amateurism, and outsider genius. It is so perfect that I fear, like you, that there will never be anything like it again.

Birdemic does have its worth though as a bizzare actin gfail. The main character's acting is so wooden and strange - he realy seems like some kind of robot - I bet none of the actors realized hwo terrible the eagles would look when they were put in later or they would have quit

Birdemic is the rare bad movie that gets EVERYTHING wrong - it really looks like one of those 8th grade school project films where you accidentally pick up a ton of wind noise and there are real jarring audio/video cuts everywhere. The characters in Birdemic are terrible actors but it's a totally different degree than in The Room. It's as if you just asked randoms off the street if they wanted to be in a film and gave them no time to rehearse. Sestero's acting is really something else. I find it hard to explain why I find practically every line he gets to be hilarious.

I lik eho win th eend the eagles just fly away and there is no resolution or explanation at all

it definitely has a very Wiseau-esque lapse in logic when the characters decide to have a picnic as a way of showing them "getting back to nature" (which is the theme of the film, I guess) despite the fact that people are repeatedly getting killed by staying outside

and that biologist is like "in ancient times eagles DID ATTACK cavemen - they woudl scratch ath their faces"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DtbPOXFk00

midnite showing this friday... tempting, but knowing myself, i'll probably walk away disgusted with half the audience in attendance

you gotta go. dammit i wish this was happening near me

The audience were certainly challenging when I saw it here in Melb, and I dunno how that compares to elsewhere, but damn it was loud. Loads of screaming and callbacks and it was hard to hear the film sometimes.

xpost

you haven't seen this yet?!

?!
?!
?!
http://1heckofaguy.com/wp-content/photos/ex-qn-mark.jpg
seriously though, you gotta get on that

<3

the audience at the late-night showing I went to actually made quite enjoyable contributions (imo)

Oh same here, that was the best part. Every time Lisa would say she was going into the kitchen some guy would scream WHAT FUCKING KITCHEN!?

if you go you will learn so much about that movie that you didn't know before

personally i was glad my first viewing was not with a theater audience that knew the gd thing by heart

ftr i have watched it alone in my home once, as well as youtube clips countless times obv

the room isn't the kind of movie you see alone!

http://i.imgur.com/wVF4Gar.jpg

yeah it's definitely the kind of thing that improves in a group atmosphere (although seeing it in a movie theater with room cultists was...not ideal)

that's what I'm worried about. though it will be the first time it's shown in a theater here.

First time I watched it was at home and thought it was cool. Then I went to see it with a live audience and laughed like crazy for most of it. Don't miss it!

best situtation to see it the first time is with some friends, especially if you guys have no idea what you're getting into. sound like the theater showing is better if you've already seen it and know the lines

that was my first time seeing it, my friends and I had no idea what we were getting into - I mean I had seen youtube clips and didn't really get what the fuss was about until I realized, wait, the whole movie is like that

Sooo.... book on the making of? Out in October. I am kinda loath to admit it, but I'm totally excited, and am absolutely going to read it. It's by Sestero and the guy who wrote the Harper's article? (I didn't even know there was such an article, so gonna have to track that down.)

http://www.avclub.com/articles/oh-hi-mark-heres-an-exclusive-look-at-the-introduc,99763

The movie that launched a thousand clickbaits.

really cannot wait to read that book

Book out on Tuesday. Here's an excerpt

http://www.vulture.com/2013/09/room.html

I'm in!!!

After quitting my job at French Connection, I parked my Lumina in Tommy’s driveway. I walked through his front door, which was ajar, and called his name. No answer. There was a kettle of boiling water on his stove, whistling away. I took the nearly empty kettle off and went upstairs. Tommy’s bedroom door was closed but I heard him make a few grumbly noises, one of which sounded like “Five minutes.” I went back downstairs and sat on his couch, where I found a note from him to me that said: “You will receive majority of candy (95%) when completion of production. I’m not Santa Claus.”

http://assets1.theroomsoundboard.com/YouWant5Minutes.mp3

I went back downstairs and started watching Spy Game. Tommy had hundreds of DVDs scattered all over the floor, though I’m not sure he watched many of them. By the time Spy Game was over, Tommy was ready to go. We were four hours late now — and we hadn’t even stopped at 7-Eleven for Tommy’s customary five cans of Red Bull.

Greg's Facebook says he's doing a Reddit AmA on Saturday.

On the filming of the "Hi Doggie!" scene:

http://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1394105_10151987514659497_2136377391_n.jpg

went to a midnight showing w/ tommy there on friday

best part of q&a was when some chick asked if he'd follow her on instagram, without missing a beat tommy goes "sure baby, i'm following you right now"

:D

Greg's coming up to portland this week for a book thing and for screenings.

http://www.theawl.com/2013/06/lisa-after-the-room

I just finished the book. It's a scream.

watched the first half of this last night and it's warping my perception of human interactions. afterward i was reading this Jennifer Egan novel but hearing all the dialogue delivered in Wiseauean fashion.

welcome to the team

O HAI

*throws you a football*

ha, ha, ha. what a story.

I guess you're the expert!

http://25.media.tumblr.com/0cab11839e584458ba11e9362e420760/tumblr_mw47k0BFwY1rcvts1o1_500.jpg

has this movie made Tommy Wiseau rich yet

honest question. film doesn't interest me at all really, but his weird pseudo-career/celebrity arc does. It seems like a relatively new phenomenon in camp appreciation - previous "bad" auteurs like Ed Wood basically lived in obscurity and penury, but the internet has allowed this guy (apparently) to capitalize on it in ways which were not previously possible.

He was already rich though.

he was??

It cost six million to make The Room and he financed the movie "himself". Clearly he had access to money. I haven't read the book but the articles I've read suggested that he had wealth coming from mysterious places.

Also, for a long time The Room cult wasn't really a web thing. It was selling out midnight screenings in LA before the internet learned about it. It was more of a word of mouth thing I think.

i highly recommend reading the book.

he was independently wealthy before he made the room. it was essentially a giant vanity project.

The Fogelnest Files podcast with Sestero was very good

As mentioned, the book - The Disaster Artist - is totally, utterly captivating and fascinating. It's a quick read - like a really gripping long form article. Very moving, as well.

Just showed this to a friend who had never seen it but had heard all about it. Ended up being a real struggle for me to get through and I kind of regretted not watching a more fun bad movie instead. Still hilarious but those 'romance' scenes (dear God why are there so many) are so uncomfortable to watch and so frequent (again, Jesus, why are there so many in this?) that I don't think I'm going to see this again for a very long time.

Finished Sestero's book tonight. It's excellent.

best bit is them literallty reusing the sex footage twice.

Apparently Tommy went the direct opposite and ordered an open set during the filming of that

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/166/361/tumblr_lpqytgQAN91qj41h3o1_500.jpg

Orsol Wolles

The book is hilarious, just finished it then went on to read that Jon Ronson psychopaths book... Bit of an eerie crossover imo

The book is great. I was originally worried that it would ruin the mystique a little bit, but if anything it makes the movie seem that much more bizarre. After reading that, the fact that the movie even exists at all is incredible. I wish there was another chapter covering the movie's eventual cult success (which in a way realized both of their dreams) but I guess it kinda goes without saying.

Watched this for the first time the other day. Wasn't expecting four five minute soft porn scenes.

Finally saw the Rifftrax for this with my brother, who was seeing the movie for the first time. Wish we had skipped the Rifftrax. They talk over some of the best lines and the way they handle the sex scenes is excruciating (which I think is what the RT guys are going for, but gawd).

this poster is incredible. if it weren't so expensive I'd buy one.

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/173326790/the-room-a2-giclee?ref=shop_home_active&ulsfg=true

I've never heard the rifftrax before but I agree with an earlier poster, this movie really doesn't need it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5FhExAaGBM

yeah, it's pretty unnecessary

Hey my friend made that poster!

hes an excellent illustrator

i was recently in SF and tried to get a picture at Guerrero Street. unfortunately it didn't come out as it was too dark.

awesome factoid from the book: the "Guerrero Street" bit was adlibbed by Greg on like the 15th take. apparently that's the street on which Tommy actually lived and he was upset that Greg had "revealed" the location of his home. they had to do that many takes because Tommy kept laughing after that "she wound up in a hospital" line. of course the final cut contained both the "Guerrero Street" line and Tommy laughing for no reason.

http://www.the-gutters.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/gutters515-colours.jpg

ok I lold

so are James and Dave Franco seriously playing Tommy and Greg in the Disaster Artist adaptation?

http://www.avclub.com/article/rooms-tommy-wiseau-re-announced-his-sitcom-and-its-206926

having had like zero expectations, I am enjoying the book immensely

yeah it's surprisingly good. and doesn't ruin the film by giving too much away. it makes me enjoy the movie even more. and sort of admire tommy in a way.

yeah you can kind of understand why sestero went along with it

http://gawker.com/move-on-next-question-an-attempt-to-communicate-wit-1641879057

great article

hard to believe anyone thought the neighbors would be anything less than totally incoherent and horrible

And then the next thing he said required me to bite my cheeks to keep from laughing in his face, a technique I used to use when I worked at VH1 and would interview people who appeared on reality TV competitions.

"Screening The Room midnight eliminated crime in America," he said, unknowingly drawing blood from me. "Look at how many young people—you been young, I mean we still young, whatever—go in the street, you know, walking on the street, nothing to do, go see The Room,have fun. Let's assume you don't see The Room, you don't have The Room, you walk on the street, grab the rock, and by accident you hit somebody, you know? Accident happen, get 'em arrested, go to jail, whatever. Instead, you see The Room. So high probability crime, high probability…you know what I'm saying?"

hard to believe anyone thought the neighbors would be anything less than totally incoherent and horrible

well this is what The Room was

he definitely seems like an alien trying desperately to appear human

even though it probably sucks (in a bad way) i'll still probably watch it... i'd probably watch him in just about anything tbh

The Neighbors is definitely really really bad, but there's something about Wiseau that keeps me watching. Nobody writes dialogue like Tommy!

http://www.hulu.com/watch/764884

I made it through the first minute!

Rifftrax crew is doing The Room at Tribeca fest

Uh, dude's AMA-ing on Reddit right now, fwiw.
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2zdzik/tommy_wiseau_creator_of_the_room_and_the_new_tv/

I read a bit, but just find it all kinda uncomfortable. (And I'm not at all familiar with The Room outside of its reputation, so naturally it's of limited interest to me.)

I clicked the link but couldn't bring myself to read any of it. A summary or highlights would be appreciated.

Its nothing mind bending, Lots of q's like "are you D B Cooper", and "what the hell is that accent", the usual you'd expect.

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How did you make your millions Tommy?
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[–]RealTommyWiseau[S] 1100 points 5 hours ago
Okay! That's good question!
Well first of all - if you look at background, you work hard, you make money. It's no secret, okay? You work VERY hard, you make money.
Well I work very hard, 24/7, several days a week, okay?
And the specific how I make monies will be in book. THE DISASTER ARTIST by Tommy Wiseau, when I write it soon. Yes.

o_0

Thank you that was perfect.

Also, WTF?

yeah the man is really a master of saying so much about himself without actually revealing anything at all (kinda like Andrew W.K.)

its almost a little heartwarming to know his typing is just as idiosyncratic as his actual speech

I think someone was transcribing his speaking answers? Its not clear from the notes - reddit is fucking hard to make sense of.

[–]cmallard2011 1708 points 7 hours ago
Oh hi Tommy.
In The Room, it’s pretty clear that the character of Lisa was meant to symbolize temptation and the evil that jealousy between friends and lovers can create. Could you elaborate more on what Lisa’s actions in the film say about our society and the moral degradation of America as a whole?
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[–]RealTommyWiseau[S] 1662 points 7 hours ago
GREAT Question!
First of all, you can compare Lisa to Eleezabeth Taylor, to when she did CLEOPATRA. The ladies, they don't have to wear jeans, they can wear dresses to be very powerful.
So Lisa's character is very powerful. She represents American society.
So that's my answer. Move on, next one!

And yeah the more I read the more he does come over like some alien Armenian Andrew WK.

or Polish, but yeah.

I kinda like how the deeper questions allow him to start swimming further and further out

will be in book. THE DISASTER ARTIST by Tommy Wiseau, when I write it soon

wait but

yeah that kinda jumped out at me too

another masterpiece of wiseau confusion tactics - two books about him with the same title!

[–]UncopyrightTNT 4 points 16 hours ago

Why is the room called the room?

[–]RealTommyWiseau[S] 13 points 15 hours ago

Oh, that's because it's a special place.

It's a place where things happen. It could be a basement, it could be a forest.

It could be anyplace. We all have it. It could be your apartment. It could be your car. You don't get a ticket, you just do whatever you want.

http://offscreen.com/images/stalker_wishingroom.jpg

ok I'm reading through this now, this is amazing

[–]Redditfan11111 73 points 16 hours ago

Would you consider playing a third character in The Neighbors?

[–]RealTommyWiseau[S] 165 points 16 hours ago

Yes.

[–]RealTommyWiseau[S] 185 points 16 hours ago

No, I already two characters. That's enough for me right now.

He never her.

I can face it today.

Somebody asked about the dog in the flower shop and part of his answer confirms what Greg Sestero said about his confusion about the dog
And by the way, that was a real dog, from the owner of the flower shop!