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I mean cunt, you silly people! The c-word is 'cunt.'

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OptionVotes
I'm British and therefore it's a thing me & the dudes call each other (however, we do not call each other 'the dudes.') 35
This word is way harsh and definitely offensive! 26
It's just a bit of fun! 25
I am a descriptive linguist; prepare for me to bore you to death. 21
This word is misogynist. 12


cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:43 (sixteen years ago)

f) depends on context

gangsta hug (omar little), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:44 (sixteen years ago)

Started bcz I feel a bit winded and nauseous every time I see this thread: By Request: Sharon Osbourne - Cunt Or Great?

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:44 (sixteen years ago)

Oh omar if I put that it wld have landslid.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:44 (sixteen years ago)

Kinda d, e and f. Basically when directed at men it doesn't seem misogynist to me but when directed at women it always does.

ChipIn Dale (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:45 (sixteen years ago)

That excludes non-abusive use of the word which seems fair enough.

ChipIn Dale (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:46 (sixteen years ago)

honey cnut cheerios

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:46 (sixteen years ago)

Voted British.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:47 (sixteen years ago)

I think it is just damn ugly but I am a woman who lives in America & was also brought up here.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:47 (sixteen years ago)

Context really is key here. I have to admit that sometimes I love it but when used by a man to describe a woman if can definitely be a o_O.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:49 (sixteen years ago)

the word "cuntal" - lol or mega-lol?

L. Ron Huppert (velko), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:51 (sixteen years ago)

'Cunt' is the only swear word that actually still works. It's the only swear word I would never even think of using in front of my mother. This is its magic and its power and I'm happy to vote for 'way harsh and definitely offensive!'

Tits Bramble (Matt DC), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:51 (sixteen years ago)

Oh God:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNmkxXxmAX8

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:52 (sixteen years ago)

Gay and Dyke used to be considered very offensive - it's all so temporary and relative and goddamned stupid.

StanM, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:54 (sixteen years ago)

None of these options really work for me. Context-sensitive indeed.

like a beautiful doll containing a canister of flatulence (circa1916), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:54 (sixteen years ago)

vote 'linguist' option, context people

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:55 (sixteen years ago)

Language happens in a shifting context doesn't mean that some words in some contexts aren't deliberately hurtful/offensive/designed to diminish or exclude.

ChipIn Dale (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:55 (sixteen years ago)

Sorry that was a xxpost

ChipIn Dale (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:55 (sixteen years ago)

Henry Green Interview

I got the idea of Loving from a manservant in the fire service
during the war. He was serving with me in the ranks, and he told
me he had once asked the elderly butler who was over him what
the old boy most liked in the world. The reply was: “Lying in bed
on a summer morning, with the window open, listening to the
church bells, eating buttered toast with cunty fingers.” I saw the
book in a flash.

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:55 (sixteen years ago)

Also 'cunt' is not THAT temporary a word – it's been around for 500+ years according to an interesting aside in Anthony Burgess's otherwise boring novel, The Doctor is Sick.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:56 (sixteen years ago)

Using a highly scientific method I concluded that in the UK it's used in reference to men about 90s% of the time and in the US in reference to women about 90% of the time. What do other experts think?

Down In The Babestation At Midnight (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:58 (sixteen years ago)

It appears in Chaucer! </USE OTHER FACTS PLEASE>

Tits Bramble (Matt DC), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:59 (sixteen years ago)

It's in the Canterbury Tales so make that 700+

ChipIn Dale (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:59 (sixteen years ago)

a + f

in other words, Matt DC otm

resistance is feudal (WmC), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:59 (sixteen years ago)

oh no is that book boring? i just bought it!

gangsta hug (omar little), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:59 (sixteen years ago)

d'oh

ChipIn Dale (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:59 (sixteen years ago)

Hey guys I was just going to mention Chaucer too FYI

Down In The Babestation At Midnight (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:00 (sixteen years ago)

Best bit of A-Level English Lit amirite?

ChipIn Dale (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:01 (sixteen years ago)

When I read Chaucer the footnote said it meant 'pudenda,' which I had to look up.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:02 (sixteen years ago)

More than one pudendum!

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:02 (sixteen years ago)

OK, well I guess I shouldn't say that "none of these options work for me" but more like more than one of these options work for me and just picking one wouldn't really give a fair representation of what I think of the word. I could go 1, 2, and 4 (except the British part kinda excludes me). Having said all of that, "I am a descriptive linguist; prepare for me to bore you to death." seems like a very appropriate option. I'll shut up now.

like a beautiful doll containing a canister of flatulence (circa1916), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:05 (sixteen years ago)

fwiw I have nothing against descriptive linguistics, just this one particular descriptive linguist I know who has a degree in it and 'doesn't believe in jobs' so consequently I run into him all the time around town and he talks my fucking ass off.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:13 (sixteen years ago)

When I'm really mad at a woman it's just the ticket. Not to her face, of course. The K sound is like a stab. Why FUCK is so good.

Beth Parker, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:15 (sixteen years ago)

honestly nobody in America uses this word... I mean it is really REALLY rare

Kool G Lapp (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:19 (sixteen years ago)

otoh I recall the girl in college who turned a bright apopleptic purple whenever the word "pussy" was used so yeah offensiveness is totally contextual and what offends some people is gonna seem totally innocuous to others, depending upon the context and usage

Kool G Lapp (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:21 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.drudge.com/news/120375/why-ok-call-someone-dick-but

ian, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:24 (sixteen years ago)

On that subject, I don't understand why "cunt" has so much more power than "dick". But it's definitely true. I don't think I've ever said it in anger, because I'm pretty sure it would be my last words.

A few years ago my car broke down, and I told one of my young sons that he could without punishment say one cuss word -- and only one -- in response to the unexpected car problem. My mother and one of the boys' friends, a devout Mormon, were in the car with us at the time.

So he dropped the C bomb. He told me later that since he only got one, he wanted to make it count.

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ian, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:25 (sixteen years ago)

English using it = ok whatever
Americans using it = stop trying to pretend you are Henry Miller and/or English

worm? lol (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:27 (sixteen years ago)

or, you know, a cunt

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:29 (sixteen years ago)

I do use it sometimes,for the same reasons Beth does, and yeah damn does it ever do the trick. It sounds even more brutish bcz I can't really make the 't' sound, just a glottal stop.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:32 (sixteen years ago)

Probably misogynist but I'm Glaswegian so use it near enough every time I speak to my friends. It can be used as a light insult - like saying "you daft cunt" if someone does something stupid like spill a drink or knock something over - I also use it as in insult - like saying "this guy I work with is a right cunt" - and I also use it as a placeholder when referring to an individual whose identity I either can't remember, or whose identity isn't pertinent to the anecdote or piece of information I'm relaying - as in saying "some cunt, I think it might have been ed or bill, told me it was your birthday on Saturday" or "some cunt said that it would rain this afternoon".

languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:35 (sixteen years ago)

x-post ^^ Me too. On the rare occasion that I use it it's when I'm ridiculously angry at someone and want to make it known. Thankfully that doesn't happen very often.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:35 (sixteen years ago)

requesting some dude to update username

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:36 (sixteen years ago)

in my experience when UK males really want to break out the I-hate-that-woman they say "cow" not "cunt," a cunt is like the guy you have beers with who says dumb shit i.e. me

worm? lol (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:37 (sixteen years ago)

oh of course, there's also "making a cunt of it" which is to make a mess of something, "getting cunted" to get inebriated (this isn't so common, think i've heard english people say it occasionally) and the very unfortunate but often used term for someone being badly beaten "getting your cunt kicked in".

languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:40 (sixteen years ago)

is Furry offensive?

StanM, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:42 (sixteen years ago)

I'm English and voting accordingly but the thing about never using this around yr mum is definitely true. HOWEVER, the other day my mum was telling me how the effectively exhusband of one of her colleagues had written "CUNT" in weedkiller on her lawn as she was trying to sell her house and that will probably be the only time I hear her use that word. Calling a hateful woman a cock gets them the right sort of offended and has a peculiar gravitas.

ogmor, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:46 (sixteen years ago)

oh, almost forgot, no thread on the subject would be complete without:

http://www.limmy.com/playthings/xylophone/

languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:55 (sixteen years ago)

fwiw I voted for the obvious one but I did so with a heavy heart because I have been known to also use "the dudes" on a fairly regular basis

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:57 (sixteen years ago)

Didn't there used to be a Gropecunt Lane in london?

James Morrison, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:03 (sixteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gropecunt_Lane

languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:05 (sixteen years ago)

Probably misogynist but I'm Glaswegian so use it near enough every time I speak to my friends

def strikes me that scottish (or specifically glaswegian?) people use it in a v different way to english people. when i was in university i had a phase of wanting to use it lots, as did most of my contemporaries, but that codes so studenty to me now - don't think i know anyone IRL who's constantly saying it, would possibly think less of them if they did. save it for when you really really need to drop a bomb. or like when you're really drunk. calling someone a cunt has this great undertone of extra-viciousness to it and i wouldn't want to devalue it through overuse.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:07 (sixteen years ago)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gropecunt_Lane

I call on Dan P. to back me up on this: this is the funniest thing ever

worm? lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:11 (sixteen years ago)

It is pretty amazing.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:12 (sixteen years ago)

i walk along magpie née gropecunt lane in oxford a couple of times a week.

caek, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:13 (sixteen years ago)

Gropecunt, the earliest known use of which is in about 1230, appears to have been derived as a compound of the words "grope" and "cunt"

hugging used to mean something (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:19 (sixteen years ago)

thanks wikipedia!

hugging used to mean something (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:19 (sixteen years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:20 (sixteen years ago)

"eating buttered toast with cunty fingers"

!!!

cozwn, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:22 (sixteen years ago)

You know I never really like to top my toast with any kind of human fingers.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:24 (sixteen years ago)

btw as an american i am obligated to vote harsh and offensive; i have used this word in weaker moments but it's clearly not cool to do so

hugging used to mean something (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:24 (sixteen years ago)

lol my old English lit tutor told me that story after we'd read a bit of Green...I really need to get hold of all his novels, like, now

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:25 (sixteen years ago)

ok gropecunt lane is by far the best thing about this thread (soz abbott, you know i love you)

Emotivism, aka the yay/boo theory (get bent), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:27 (sixteen years ago)

I can make commem. Gropecunt Lane design for Donor Use Only as some extra ++ sweet brag.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:28 (sixteen years ago)

Is there a Scunthorpe in the US?

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:36 (sixteen years ago)

wheres that picture of snowcone flavor CNUT

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:37 (sixteen years ago)

I made a Gropecunt Lane postcard

NSFW

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:59 (sixteen years ago)

hahahahaha

hugging used to mean something (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 01:05 (sixteen years ago)

this & the charlie kaufman movie in one night = broken brain

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 01:09 (sixteen years ago)

I demand that Peter Gabriel re-record "Mercy Street" immediately

worm? lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 01:12 (sixteen years ago)

I like this word in reference to vaginas, but not in reference to people. Unfortunately for me, most women I know do not feel the same way about using this word re: vaginas. With some women I have known, even "pussy" was too harsh a word. I'm not sure how prevalent that sentiment is, though.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 01:13 (sixteen years ago)

I don't find it personally offensive, but I've found that more or less 50% of people do, so I try and avoid it.

iatee, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 01:13 (sixteen years ago)

I once wanted to name a band kubla kunt but my bandmates were either cowards or too sensible, your choice

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 02:24 (sixteen years ago)

Kubla Cunt and the Pleasure Clit

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 02:37 (sixteen years ago)

See that last one doesn't even make sense.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 02:38 (sixteen years ago)

i enjoy hearing large british men yell "COONT!"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 02:57 (sixteen years ago)

small pleasures

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 02:57 (sixteen years ago)

Oh so you can yell COOOOOOOOOOOONT in a DoubleTree but not call someone gay?

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:01 (sixteen years ago)

I like the strength and harshness of the word, but I don't like the misogyny of it. I wish there was a harsh and offensive word that was not also rooted in bigotry..
I used to use it frequently in traffic, but now I just like to describe elaborate acts of mutilation.
You know.. for fun!

rollerbeef, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:01 (sixteen years ago)

The word cunny makes me laugh because it is creepily offensive and also old-timey, but I never actually get to say it because it is creepily offensive.

rollerbeef, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:03 (sixteen years ago)

i was mostly joking, its really the only word that stuns me upon deployment except when it's jovially yelled between large british men

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:03 (sixteen years ago)

i use this word frequently when driving and playing video games but hardly ever otherwise

I wish I was the royal trux (sunny successor), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:06 (sixteen years ago)

Hoos I tried to draw a picture of you as a sweet ballet dancer falling in love with a vulgar, giant old Britishes man but it did not want to come out right.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:08 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.thorninpaw.com/u/htdocs/thorni/image/withnail01.jpg

MONTY YOU TERRIBLE CUNT!!!

(ie: classick. IN this context anyway)

(yes yes I know thats the wrong scene)

chk chk BOOM! (Trayce), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:12 (sixteen years ago)

The word cunny makes me laugh because it is creepily offensive and also old-timey, but I never actually get to say it because it is creepily offensive.

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Oh man, the word "cunny" is so damn gross. Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:14 (sixteen years ago)

Isnt it ever? Its like "panties". It smacks of something pervy old men would say. Ugh.

chk chk BOOM! (Trayce), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:14 (sixteen years ago)

Ha, I think I've only ever heard it in 18th century works!

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:15 (sixteen years ago)

cunny vs cunt vs clunge

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:15 (sixteen years ago)

vs coynte

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:15 (sixteen years ago)

vs wait for it...vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:15 (sixteen years ago)

wtf is clunge???

Cunt is definitely the least offensive out of those three.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:16 (sixteen years ago)

is 'vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv' an onomatopoeia of a queef?

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:16 (sixteen years ago)

They were directional arrows, and Shakespeare was a naughty, naughty man.

Clunge is something I first saw Autumn Almanac using. It was love at first whiff.

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:18 (sixteen years ago)

Oh that was just foul.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:19 (sixteen years ago)

Damn it, Lou, what are you doing?

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:20 (sixteen years ago)

xpost

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:20 (sixteen years ago)

Seriously.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:21 (sixteen years ago)

Country matters, lj?

I'm in the slightly confusing position of being English by birth and now Canadian, where people are still generally stopped cold by the word "cunt". You'd think by the way people toss the word "beaver" around here, they'd be okay with it, but I guess no.

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:22 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah stop ruining pussy for everyone ;_;

chk chk BOOM! (Trayce), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:22 (sixteen years ago)

I mean (re: 'clunge'), it's not quite as terse, as destructive, as utterly definitive as 'cunt', but it has a gleeful anatomical sumptuousness to it that achieves the desired effect of causing slight distate and simultaneous amusement.

Sorry for my turn of phrase. I'm sure it's put y'all right off the idea of eating anything ever again.

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:24 (sixteen years ago)

Anyway, everything you wanted to know about cunt.

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:25 (sixteen years ago)

Wait, that should really be by a Mike Hunt, not a Matthew Hunt.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:27 (sixteen years ago)

^^^was my initial instinct too

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:29 (sixteen years ago)

I must admit that the Matthew part did disappoint me when I found that site. Maybe he has a brother named Mike and he saw how tormented he's been all his life and created the site in his honour?

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:30 (sixteen years ago)

But I'm actually worried that it might have been his Master's thesis.

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:30 (sixteen years ago)

i have a female friend who uses 'gash' when acting overtly australian which is pretty delightful

I wish I was the royal trux (sunny successor), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:31 (sixteen years ago)

I sort of love "gash" but I can't ever actually imagine using it in a sentence. Also: minge.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:33 (sixteen years ago)

'escutcheon'

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:35 (sixteen years ago)

I sort of love "gash" but I can't ever actually imagine using it in a sentence.

Link.

Now that's misogyny!

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:37 (sixteen years ago)

Quim!

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:38 (sixteen years ago)

Quim always makes me think of Ken and Kenneth from the Fast Show.

chk chk BOOM! (Trayce), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 05:22 (sixteen years ago)

Er I mean the word quim, not... oh never mind.

chk chk BOOM! (Trayce), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 05:22 (sixteen years ago)

cooze?

Emotivism, aka the yay/boo theory (get bent), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 05:42 (sixteen years ago)

clunge is deeply unacceptable

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 05:45 (sixteen years ago)

you'd never use it as a term of contempt for another person though, you'd have to stop and explain every time, it'd be pretty lame.

I voted british but am not a scottish person liable to use the word always - i would call a man a cunt but i would not use that word about a woman - the use in the sharon osbourne thread made me near blind with anger in fact!

la belle dame sans serif (c sharp major), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 07:49 (sixteen years ago)

Clunge? Sounds like something you'd use to clean the u-bend in a sink, though no worse than 'vadge'. Said by a man every descriptive word sounds wrong, but do quite like 'Mary' as it's nicely vague.

DJ Angoreinhardt (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 07:58 (sixteen years ago)

I am British - namby-pamby southern Englisher and not Scottish - and use the word occasionally, which I guess makes me super-hypocritical cz I do feel a bit uncomfortable about seeing a woman singled out to be called it, as on Sharon O thread.

Will use the word in the plural in front of good friends for whatever incompetent and genderless corporation/bureaucracy has pissed me off above and beyond the call of duty; hardly ever use it in the singular, only when extremely angry, and would probably avoid it for a woman, though maybe if she was really evil towards me?

PS re like 100 posts ago, "pudenda" is a great Victorian word (may not actually be Victorian but is pretty funny for a coy clinical euphemism), being the Latin for "the bits you should be ashamed of". Gerundive of obligation ahoy, Latin nerds!

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 08:13 (sixteen years ago)

Don't use it very often and certainly not in polite company. More likely to use the cockney gangster derivative i.e 'you facking cant. you're a fight facking muppet', which takes the sting out of it a little bit.

DJ Angoreinhardt (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 08:17 (sixteen years ago)

xpost

Not a gerundive, which is adjectival or adverbial, but a gerund </pedant>

As for cunt, I'd say it's mildly misogynistic, since the penis equivalents (prick, dick etc.) are not as offensive. But maybe that's changed in the last 20 years or so, maybe it's not as strong as it used to be.

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 08:26 (sixteen years ago)

There is a judge in MN who ran for Congress; his surname was Minge (in MN, this rhymes with Blingee). His campaign leaflets picked up from the State Fair entertained my Scottish friends throughout 1998.

I have fewer problems with 'cunt' as a description than misogynistic, telling euphemisms like 'pussy' or 'gash', and I'm allergic to anyone who uses the word 'panties'. I'll admit 'clunge' is new to me, but 'cooter' is not and is a go-to option amongst less impolite company. My mom and I do have the 'were they being a cunt?'/'yes they were being TOTAL cunts' exchange a couple of times a year about various individuals - I blame the divorced parent dynamic - and my sister (a total pottymouth in other ways) gets totally pissed off. At that point it becomes all about teasing her. Also Britishes mad scientist dad of best friend across street growing up was the Profanasaurus, so friend and I are mild-looking but capable of fairly elaborate expletive chains just for the Hell of it.

502 Bad Gateway (suzy), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 08:33 (sixteen years ago)

(xposting off-topic hyper-pedantry: thought it was neuter adjective used as noun for "the stuff which is (adjective)", as Latin/Greek often did - gerunds are different and gerunds of obligation don't exist, do they? But anyway.)

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 08:38 (sixteen years ago)

i would call a man a cunt but i would not use that word about a woman

Me too.

Teh Movable Object (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 08:39 (sixteen years ago)

(pedantry xpost: actually you seem to know a lot more about this than I do so you're probably right. I thought gerundives were always adjectival or adverbial forms of the root verb, and pudendum seems to function as a noun. But maybe I'm wrong!)

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 08:46 (sixteen years ago)

something difficult is c*ntish (sorry for workfiltering), but basically the same way the scots use it would be applied here too, but maybe not quite as liberally.

use on- mates that have mildly annoyed you, other drivers (male or female)

U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 10:19 (sixteen years ago)

I use it frequently in drunken blokey pub conversation but I don't think I would call a woman a cunt. There's a weird thing in Scotland where it's almost a term of endearment for some people ("Awright ya wee cunt how's it goin?" "What d'yous cunts want tae drink?" "I like wee John, he's a funny wee cunt."). Another strange thing is what Jim referred to upthread in using it to refer to any non-specific person or persons - "How's the party goin'?" "Pish, there's no cunt here!" "Isn't that a good thing?"

go and put your f'kin torn jeans on (onimo), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 10:50 (sixteen years ago)

Ashley Jensen said 'clunge' in Extras

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 10:53 (sixteen years ago)

>>>>i would call a man a cunt but i would not use that word about a woman

>>>>Me too.

Me three. Unless it's a she-male.

I'm Some Guy (u s steel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 10:56 (sixteen years ago)

I have fewer problems with 'cunt' as a description than misogynistic, telling euphemisms like 'pussy' or 'gash'

I just can't see how pussy is more misogynistic than cunt.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:13 (sixteen years ago)

I have been saying "cunted" lately.

the fantasy-life of nations has consequences in the real worl (fields of salmon), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:19 (sixteen years ago)

is it safe for me to pop in here yet?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:20 (sixteen years ago)

'flaps' is way more insulting imo

U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:23 (sixteen years ago)

Huh, I don't get the "won't say it to a woman" thing. Not from Britishers, anyway. In fact, that stance in itself smacks of sexism to me. If as Britishers we say it as a silly, chummy thing to our mates, then what is it implying if we are to exclude all women from this exchange? I can only think of a few reasons, and none of them work well: 1) it will remind women of their genitalia, and women's genitalia are disgusting and evil and must not be mentioned around people other than heterosexual males. Obviously not. 2) The word itself *is* in fact misogynist and cannot be uttered around women lest they hit you. If this is the case, then you shouldn't be saying it at all, and this goes against the entire principle of the British use of the word. Also not acceptable. 3) Women are delicate flowers who must not be insulted even in jest. Yeah, right. 4) You are not actually friends with any women.

Don't get me wrong, I do understand that the same insult can have different meanings when applied to different genders, but the only examples I can think of rely more heavily on intonation and intent than gendering. For example, 'bitch' tends to be applied very differently to men than it does to women, BUT if you utter it to a woman in the same manner as you would normally do to a man the meaning transfers. I feel this applies to the word 'cunt' just the same.

I also realise that my possible reasons are limited and flawed, but they were off the top of my head and are intended to be faintly jocular. I would like to hear the actual reasons behind the sentiment from those who hold it.

emil.y, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:34 (sixteen years ago)

I don't use it as an insult, and I don't use it to refer to female genitalia. Women can't be blokes, they can't be geezers, why can't I exclude them from being cunts?

go and put your f'kin torn jeans on (onimo), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:42 (sixteen years ago)

That said, women can be cunts in the non-specific "there's no cunt here!" sense but if I say "I was talking to a wee cunt in the pub" everyone knows it's a man I'm referring to. Don't ask me why - gender is assigned through usage rather than hard and fast rules and that's just how I've grown up using it.

go and put your f'kin torn jeans on (onimo), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:45 (sixteen years ago)

Because cunt doesn't mean man, whereas bloke and geezer do. Although I might just be strange, as I do call women 'guys' (which to me falls into the category of 'dudes', 'hepcats', 'kids' - words that simply mean 'mates' or 'people').

emil.y, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:46 (sixteen years ago)

xpost

emil.y, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:46 (sixteen years ago)

possibly people end up, somewhat ironically, reserving the harsher words for the "harsher" gender.

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:48 (sixteen years ago)

the word has entirely different connotations when directed at a woman (outside of any of your 4 scenarios), and that's from someone that uses it quite a bit in front of friends of both sexes.

U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:49 (sixteen years ago)

Okay, on re-reading onimo's posts, that seems a particularly Scottish version, perhaps. I'd just use 'cunt' in a much more general sense, like "hey cunts, what's happening?" (I could never actually imagine myself using that exact phrase, but can't think of anything more appropriate to illustrate the point).

emil.y, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:49 (sixteen years ago)

that sounds very scottish of you

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:50 (sixteen years ago)

That said, women can be cunts in the non-specific "there's no cunt here!"

which is different from "there's nae fanny here!
Which is also different from "Haw you ya wee fanny"

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:52 (sixteen years ago)

wassup c*nts

U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:52 (sixteen years ago)

darraghmac, I tried to address that point with the bitch example - do you not think that is the same? I totally agree that there can be a tendency for one gender to experience the word differently, and with different connotations, but the intonation and intent aspects can completely override this. Yes? No?

emil.y, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:56 (sixteen years ago)

why can't you vote for both 1 and 3?

The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:57 (sixteen years ago)

Aye the correct answer is probably a bit of all of them, making the first response by omar little "f) depends on context" OTM.

go and put your f'kin torn jeans on (onimo), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:01 (sixteen years ago)

Refusal to call women cunts = the new British gallantry

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:02 (sixteen years ago)

aren't you answering your own question then emily? that the term can mean different things in different contexts, and that one of those contexts is when directed at a woman.

U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:02 (sixteen years ago)

doesn't get any closer to an explanation than what onimo said though.

U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:03 (sixteen years ago)

ach ignore me I'm a cunt

go and put your f'kin torn jeans on (onimo), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:03 (sixteen years ago)

Do men use the word "cunt" more often than women? My guess is yes.

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:06 (sixteen years ago)

darraghmac, no, the point I'm making is that one of those contexts is when directed at a woman as an insult, and another of those contexts is when directed at a woman in the same manner as you'd direct it to your male friends. What I am questioning is why people are afraid to utter it in this latter sense. If your answer is that you won't do it because remnants of the former context remain in play, then I suppose I can see your point, but really don't agree with it.

emil.y, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:08 (sixteen years ago)

ok, fair distinction. i don't have an answer for you, excepting personal belief that it's too loaded a term when directed at a woman in any context. it doesn't really mean anything directed at a male mate other than 'oh here's a pretty nasty term i can use' but it's quite specifically a female insult.

that said, i don't think i've ever called a woman a 'dick'.

U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:16 (sixteen years ago)

i actually have called a woman a dick

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:17 (sixteen years ago)

it wasn't as satisfying as i'd hoped it would be

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:17 (sixteen years ago)

mustn't make......pun

U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:18 (sixteen years ago)

gf was out one night with her sister and some of their cousins on a saturday night, and they were about to get into a car to go elsewhere when a couple of pissed hick idiots started racially vilifying them and gf piped up with "you are the ugliest cunt i've ever seen" and the guy got really defensive and was all "b-b-b-b-but i've got a girlfriend, im not ugly"

wilter, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:19 (sixteen years ago)

come on i put the goal posts right in front of you man xp

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:19 (sixteen years ago)

you didn't surround them with hair.

U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:20 (sixteen years ago)

that nite she took cunt back for the ladies xps

wilter, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:20 (sixteen years ago)

lily-of-the-valley

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 13:48 (sixteen years ago)

cunt is losing its sheen def but still has some juice left

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 13:58 (sixteen years ago)

if u said it in the 80s i mean WHOA

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 13:58 (sixteen years ago)

used as a verb to describe what motorists are doing when they creep up the side and merge into your lane well ahead of you: classic

Snop Snitchin, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 14:05 (sixteen years ago)

cunt is losing its sheen

http://j.bdbphotos.com/news/pictures/9L/18/9918_large.jpg

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 14:05 (sixteen years ago)

also: honestly nobody in America uses this word... I mean it is really REALLY rare

lol come to Boston sometime and hang out with my gay friends and you will hear the word "cunt" A LOT (my straight friends avoid it)

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 14:15 (sixteen years ago)

i say this btw and i am american but i dont say it a lot

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 14:19 (sixteen years ago)

"It's the only swear word I would never even think of using in front of my mother."

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 14:28 (sixteen years ago)

don't think i've ever used it in a britisher way for dudes, and have only used it to refer to a woman in times of extreme vexation

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 14:29 (sixteen years ago)

'Panties' is a word my mom and grandma used, like 'blouse,' or calling sandals' thongs. Just old-fashioned a word to me, I use it sometimes when I'm not thinking ('all out of panties guess it's laundry day le sigh'). OTOH heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Aqualung yeah that is yucko.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 15:17 (sixteen years ago)

i would call a man a cunt but i would not use that word about a woman

That's pretty much what I do. I also like calling disobliging females 'dicks'.

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 15:44 (sixteen years ago)

in defense of "aqualung", isn't it *supposed* to creep you out? I mean, it's not just "panties", it's "frilly panties", and that's half a step away from actually saying "cunny" which I hope we can all agree is the grand champion of eww words. is it any more creepy than genesis p orridge cooing "I've got a little biscuit tin to keep your panties in" on "persuasion"? they're both intentionally portraying grubby old men.

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 15:46 (sixteen years ago)

ive never thought to call a woman a dick but i like it a lot.

I wish I was the royal trux (sunny successor), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 15:47 (sixteen years ago)

im going to try to use it in a sentence today which shouldnt be too hard considering ill be in airports all day

I wish I was the royal trux (sunny successor), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 15:48 (sixteen years ago)

or an asshole. don't think i've ever called a woman an asshole

U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 15:49 (sixteen years ago)

I never argued Aqualung shld be the last dance at the prom. Song is gross on purpose, yes.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 15:49 (sixteen years ago)

then again I was just wishing the last option in this poll was "I'm a cunning linguist; prepare for me to bore you to death" so maybe I am not a proper barometer of such things

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 15:50 (sixteen years ago)

My Dad called a lady at the DMV a cunt (very loudly so that the entire waiting room could hear) on the day I got my driver's license. To be fair she deserved it but I pretty much died of embarrassment on the spot.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 15:50 (sixteen years ago)

I really think it's an horrible word.

Orin Boyd (jel --), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 15:53 (sixteen years ago)

The French equivalent (no-one is quite sure whether the Latin word is related to the Germanic one, which just seems silly to me), con is ubiquitous in informal speech and nowhere near as offensive as 'cunt' is. {/context}

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 15:55 (sixteen years ago)

I think it's more useful in the Scottish way than it is for any actual use as a body part. The diction, the hard T, everything about it is better as a derogatory. I wouldn't even bother to "reclaim" it for, say, racy chats, since there're already better options.

It's probably most of the way to not even applying to women or a woman-part at all, outside of North America.

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:14 (sixteen years ago)

MW: i'm curious, does con literally mean "vagina?" or is it just an expletive

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:20 (sixteen years ago)

con, conne /kɔ̃/ , /kɔn/
noun, masculine, feminine
vulgar bloody idiot GB(popular) , stupid jerk (colloquial);
idée à la ~ lousy idea (colloquial).

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:23 (sixteen years ago)

the dinner of cunts amirite

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:23 (sixteen years ago)

oh god, the mental images

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:24 (sixteen years ago)

I can't believe this thread has gone this far w/o wall of?

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:28 (sixteen years ago)

it was linked IIRC

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:28 (sixteen years ago)

The c-word

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:32 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah I'm not clicking on ANYthing in this thread.

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:32 (sixteen years ago)

fair point!

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:39 (sixteen years ago)

en español, coño

factoid about

In the Philippines, coño (Tagalog: konyo) refers to a wealthy Anglophone person raised and/or living in a gated community, though the term originally referred to insular Spaniards, regardless of socioeconomic status. However, it is also likely that the term was used by people of high society to denote mestizos or half-breeds particularly when in the olden times, the natives, formerly called indios were taunted as being children of women who marry Peninsulares or Insulares in order to elevate their social status. The word Coño therefore became a slang for harlotry. The English variant that these konyos informally speak among themselves is termed Konyo English or simply Konyo.

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:43 (sixteen years ago)

this thread refuses to open on my phone but is disingenuous about it

thomp, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:53 (sixteen years ago)

MW: i'm curious, does con literally mean "vagina?" or is it just an expletive

It's derived from cunnus, a Latin word for vulva and it's use as an epithet only dates from the 19th century in French.

Interestingly, the diminutive of cunnus somehow came to designate rabbits in most Romance languages,
(conejo, coniglio, coelho), and the old French form (long since dropped) entered English as the precursor to 'coney'.

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:01 (sixteen years ago)

Okay, I'm really confused, thought it was just a Britisher thing but now Abbs is on board: 'panties' is old-fashioned/creepy?

I've always heard and used 'panties' as a completely standard term for women's underwear, be it with men, women, co-workers, clergy, the elderly, etc.

Have I been led astray by everyone?

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:30 (sixteen years ago)

I think if you say "panties" nowadays you run the risk of sounding like frank booth

they're just called underwear

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:38 (sixteen years ago)

Er, that is only true if you are saying things like "hey little girl, I want to stuff your moist panties in my mouth hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:39 (sixteen years ago)

Unmentionables, or did I mention that?

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:49 (sixteen years ago)

foundation garments

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:51 (sixteen years ago)

Gob: [talking about his new boat] The Seaward.
Michael: You're not getting a boat.
Gob: [doing rock, paper, scissors] One, two, three.
Michael: You're not gonna do it...
[does rock]
Michael: .
Gob: Paper covers rock.
Michael: Fine, but rock sinks boat.
Lucille: [entering room] Michael.
Michael: Just a minute mom.
[to GOB]
Michael: . Get rid of the Seaward.
Lucille: I'll leave when I'm good and ready.

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:52 (sixteen years ago)

where i come from "cunt" is used as a generic word to mean "thing"

as in "want one of these cunts?" [proffering a chip]

zone 1 penguin (braveclub), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 19:12 (sixteen years ago)

also knickers is a nice word iirc

zone 1 penguin (braveclub), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 19:13 (sixteen years ago)

Incidentally, the opening track on the Happy Mondays' Bummed album, which is credited as "Country Song", was originally entitled "Some Cunt from Preston", that being allegedly band rhyming slang for Country & Western.

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 19:18 (sixteen years ago)

I voted way harsh and offensive because that's the most valid option but I also think it's a funny word to say, precisely because of this. But more if you're pretending to be in a rage about something utterly reasonable for a laugh...

Local Garda, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 19:43 (sixteen years ago)

in my experience when UK males really want to break out the I-hate-that-woman they say "cow" not "cunt," a cunt is like the guy you have beers with who says dumb shit i.e. me

― worm? lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, June 3, 2009 1:37 AM (20 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not on my watch, biotch

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 19:48 (sixteen years ago)

no if you're using it sincerely and you mean it "cunt" is like the last stop on insult avenue

Local Garda, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 19:50 (sixteen years ago)

but i wouldn't specifically use it based on gender

Local Garda, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 19:50 (sixteen years ago)

Sincerely calling someone a cunt carries connotations (cunnytations?) that other terms of abuse just don't have, either.

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 19:51 (sixteen years ago)

Like...?

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 19:54 (sixteen years ago)

I love that, as a noun not an epithet, it's a perfectly honest, Anglo-Saxon word that's not a euphemism or stand-in for anything else. 'Pussy' is a slightly frightening metaphor ("Bad kitty! No claws!") and 'vulva' or 'vagina' sound clinical and slightly foreign. Most of the other popular words are more or less nasty or ridiculous metaphors, too ('quim' may derive for the Welsh for valley, btw), but 'cunt' while it has been misappropriated for misogynistic purposes (the Greek root 'gyn' may be related to 'cunnus'), like 'cocksucker', a person I have always found to be exceedingly pleasant, doesn't beat about the bush and refers literally and unabashedly to nothing else.

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 19:55 (sixteen years ago)

The term I still boggle at was introduced to me by Chris V on this board many years ago: "snapper".

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 19:56 (sixteen years ago)

surely 'pussy' has more of a weakness connotations. is used for cowardice, reluctance etc.

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 19:56 (sixteen years ago)

a person I have always found to be exceedingly pleasant, doesn't beat about the bush

arf

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 19:57 (sixteen years ago)

I think "cunt" has connotations of mean, ugly and vicious, which given its roots is kind of... troubling.

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 19:58 (sixteen years ago)

xpost

Well - talking usage in England here - "dick" or "cock" imply foolishness or being trifling and not worth it on some level, but "cunt" here has a connotation of moral worthlessness? not stupidity at all but just that a person being called a cunt is very very bad and wd probably pimp their own Grandma for a couple of quid.

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 19:58 (sixteen years ago)

I recognise the troubling side of that Dan but I wonder if the sheer brutality of the sound of the word hasn't shaped that particular usage.

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 19:59 (sixteen years ago)

all the young cunts

Bad Gaygay (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:00 (sixteen years ago)

"pussy" is def a worse insult. lots of people take a weird kind of pride in being a cunt - cf US asshole, douchebag &c. no one goes round saying "yeah, i'm a pussy, and?"

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:00 (sixteen years ago)

where do people stand on vajayjay?

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:02 (sixteen years ago)

surely not something anyone says?

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:02 (sixteen years ago)

no one goes round saying "yeah, i'm a pussy, and?"

Yeah and that's why suzy's assertion that it's more misogynist seems true. The use of pussy as an insult is still really close to its biological meaning, whereas the use of cunt feels more kind of abstract, at least in the UK.

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:03 (sixteen years ago)

again, come hang out with my gay friends and you will hear a lot of "vajayjay" (in fairness usually because someone is riffing off of one friend's name)

xp: I suppose in strictest terms the idea of a pussy being spineless is close to its biological meaning but that's still kind of bothersome...?

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:04 (sixteen years ago)

not that I am advocating for vagina spines, biology is complicated enough

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:05 (sixteen years ago)

vajayjay blanchard is now on the display name table

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:05 (sixteen years ago)

wtf r u guys on about, it's "biological" meaning?? are you saying that women actually ~are~ inherently cowardly and spineless?

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:05 (sixteen years ago)

surely not something anyone says?

Oh yes it is and it's HORRIBLE. It's bad enough in an everyday setting but I recently finished my MA in Women's Health and one of my classmates insisted on using the word "vajayjay" in class! I wan't to slap her every single time she said it. She was getting a degree in Women's Health and couldn't say vagina. God, that drove me nuts.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:06 (sixteen years ago)

Also yeah, GBX raises a really good question. WTF?!

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:07 (sixteen years ago)

In fairness, the sentence "my vajayjay is painin'" is still one of the funniest things ever said by a human being

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:07 (sixteen years ago)

i think it's funny after Kenneth said it in 30 Rock (quoting Tracy).

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:08 (sixteen years ago)

but if all words used are considered either too 'clinical', just lame or actively unpleasant that's no good

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:09 (sixteen years ago)

Sorry, I wasn't clear. "Pussy" is used as abuse because it's synechdochal for woman, with all the negative stereotypical connotations implied WHICH I AMN'T AGREEING WITH FFS. Whereas I feel like "cunt" as used abusively in the UK has become more detached from associations with women per se.

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:09 (sixteen years ago)

The wiki article in French on 'con' says that, and here's a salient difference to the way the two languages relate to suing female pudenda as an epithet, that the once taboo use of the word stemmed from a chauvinistic appraisal of it as passive and hence dumb, slow-moving, not a virile agent but the object of the manly cock's striving. In French it's generally not as vicious as it is in English. It's telling that in English it's even worse than 'whore', globally perceived as one of the worst things you can call a woman.

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:10 (sixteen years ago)

xp that ties in with what i said earlier viz possibly people end up, somewhat ironically, reserving the harsher words for the "harsher" gender.

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:11 (sixteen years ago)

what i'm not really getting is whether the scottish/irish usage of "cunt" coexists with it being the UBER-INSULT. if you're using it in everyday conversation to denote people you don't hate, doesn't it lose its power rather swiftly? context is all, obv, but...

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:11 (sixteen years ago)

Re vajayjay: In comedy on 30 rock or a mocking way it's fine but not in an academic setting or because saying "vagina" makes you uncomfortable esp if you're focusing on reproductive health! Also, Oprah says vajayjay and it's super irritating.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:12 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX2m0oZv1rc

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:13 (sixteen years ago)

I can't see youtubes at work. That better not be Oprah.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:13 (sixteen years ago)

It's The Soup!

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:14 (sixteen years ago)

:-)

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:14 (sixteen years ago)

xpost Lex I wouldn't have thought so, look at the multiple meanings of "fuck" which run from relatively mild emphasis to aggressive challenge.

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:14 (sixteen years ago)

Oh please. And we'll not even start on the fact that "vagina" and "vulva" are used to mean the same thing, when there are actual anatomical terms for different things for a reason. It's like if you told the doctor your arm hurt while in fact one of your fingers was actually severed. Close, but no cigar! So to speak.

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:15 (sixteen years ago)

surely the reason "cunt" means someone vicious/nasty is because the word itself is vicious and nasty. the taboo engulfs the meaning so people reserve its use accordingly and the cycle continues.

pussy probably is worse...I agree, but only because any insult that seems to subjugate someone is worse. I dunno, calling someone "cunt" in most of the uses I hear it is when somebody is angry at being wronged.

Local Garda, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:15 (sixteen years ago)

first sentence should read "considered vicious and nasty"

Local Garda, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:16 (sixteen years ago)

Like 'restroom' for toilet, 'vajayjay' is a prissy euphemism and worse, one that actually makes phonetic reference to the actual thing. It drives me nuts.

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:16 (sixteen years ago)

i thought it would get more love

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:16 (sixteen years ago)

x-post to Laurel Yeah, I wasn't even going to go anywhere near the whole vagina/vulva thing but it is v annoying when done in certain contexts by people who should know better etc.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:17 (sixteen years ago)

mons

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:18 (sixteen years ago)

Wait, I have another UK-related cursing/derogatory question: if someone were referred to as a "tasty fucker" what exactly would be the overtones of that? Someone tough enough to be a substantial challenge, assuming you think that's a good thing?

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:18 (sixteen years ago)

umm i would only say "tasty fucker" about someone i thought was hott? unless "tasty" has a difft meaning i don't know about

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:19 (sixteen years ago)

Incidentally when my daughter was just starting to learn to talk me and Mrs Vague had long hard thinks about what the best equivalent of penis = "willy" would be for vulva+vagina, i.e. not overly clinical but playful and positive. I don't think there's an easy equivalence over here which is pretty messed up.

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:19 (sixteen years ago)

xpost "tasty" in that context probably implies somebody who can handle themselves in a fight, like "hard".

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

yeah we had a whole thing about the vagina/vulva discrepancy after the musical montage of human genitals we had to watch in class

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

never heard anyone use the word "tasty" outside of like "The Bill" or something, a waning British cop show of the 80s and 90s.

x-post my parents used to call the penis "sir william" when I was a child. might revive that name as an adult. actually maybe not.

Local Garda, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:21 (sixteen years ago)

I just remembered that vajayjay girl also busted out "bajingo" in class one night. NOT CUTE.

Actual LOLs at Max's mons.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:21 (sixteen years ago)

Incidentally when my daughter was just starting to learn to talk me and Mrs Vague had long hard thinks about what the best equivalent of penis = "willy" would be for vulva+vagina, i.e. not overly clinical but playful and positive. I don't think there's an easy equivalence over here which is pretty messed up.

One of my female friends told us her mom used "chickenella", which is so many shades of wrong I can't really get into it.

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:22 (sixteen years ago)

Thanks, NV, that was my guess from context.

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:22 (sixteen years ago)

CHICKENELLA??????

I can't even . . . wow.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:23 (sixteen years ago)

Our daughter herself arrived at "dinky" eventually. Don't know where that came from. It was fine until we were driving thru this town in Northern Ireland at Easter and there was a bar called "Dinky's".

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:24 (sixteen years ago)

Actually, you want to know what the worst clinical word is?

"meatus"

ew

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:25 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, that's pretty gross.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:26 (sixteen years ago)

It's just a teenage dirtbag.

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:26 (sixteen years ago)

ha ha ha

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:27 (sixteen years ago)

mons pubis

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:27 (sixteen years ago)

shame on you Local Garda, The Bill is still going

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:28 (sixteen years ago)

Is "The Bill" set in Liverpool?

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:30 (sixteen years ago)

"her chickenella was enormous. you could stand under it"

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:30 (sixteen years ago)

i didnt read this whole thread but i just wanted to share the story of the australian couple i met in poland, great peeps who spoke in a fairly slangy way using all sorts of aussie expressions i'd never heard before. when they came back from auschwitz the guy shook his head and said "poor cunts."

s1ocki, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:30 (sixteen years ago)

kinda blew my canadian mind

s1ocki, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:31 (sixteen years ago)

under her chickenella
ella
ella
ay
ay
ay

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:32 (sixteen years ago)

Did you have Fruitella in the US? Cos that's not helping the whole chickenella thing for me at all.

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:32 (sixteen years ago)

btw The Bill is set in and around Sun Hill police station, in the fictional London borough of Canley in East London

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:33 (sixteen years ago)

More like Cantley amirite?

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:33 (sixteen years ago)

ooh Claire Goose is in it these days

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:34 (sixteen years ago)

There are a lot of derivative and related words, such as "cwm" in Welsh (a mountain lake), or the suffix "coomb/comb" at the end of many English towns. Also "quaint", which is the only way that word's inclusion in Andrew Marvell's poem "To His Coy Mistress" makes real sense. I may be wrong here, but my sense is that "cunt" was considered only mildly bawdy in England for a long time (hence Shakespeare, Chaucer refs, as well as the amazing Gropecunt Lane) but became more taboo during the Victorian era, and has only held onto its major shock value in North America which does share some of the Puritanical aspects of said era (compare with Europe currently). Also, since, like many of our popular curse words, it is undeniably Anglo-Saxon, it would have been looked down on by the English upper classes, who mostly spoke French after 1066 until, erm, my history lets me down at that point. Maybe the fact that it's much more prevalent and less insulting the further north you go, that's been a way to stick it to the poncy southerners? Don't know if this is challopy or just badly researched, but I'm more thinking aloud here, as it does fascinate me the different ways in which this word is received (contextually).

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:35 (sixteen years ago)

me and Mrs Vague had long hard thinks about what the best equivalent of penis = "willy" would be for vulva+vagina

Not 'fanny'? You're in the UK, right?

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:35 (sixteen years ago)

Do people still use "cunt hair" as a unit of measurement?

Darin, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:37 (sixteen years ago)

"Fanny" was way too sweary when we were kids to think of it as adults. It still probly is a bit swearier than its male equivalents, which is wrong I know but there we are.

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:37 (sixteen years ago)

but my sense is that "cunt" was considered only mildly bawdy in England

Conversely, they mave have been far more bawdy in pre-Puritan 'Merry Olde Englande'.

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:37 (sixteen years ago)

I would love to be a character in The Bill.

Local Garda, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:37 (sixteen years ago)

Like not play one, just be written into it as myself.

Local Garda, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:38 (sixteen years ago)

Haha thanks, bluski. I was kidding mostly but that speaker sounds like a British cop drama + "The Real Football Factories" half the time anyway so it makes sense.

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:38 (sixteen years ago)

Do people still use "cunt hair" as a unit of measurement?

wait waht

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:38 (sixteen years ago)

Noodle, knowing me, I'd probably be unable to resist the temptation to teach my daughter to call it her 'chasm' or something.

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:38 (sixteen years ago)

you've never heard that, dan?

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:39 (sixteen years ago)

my God, I have led a sheltered life

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:40 (sixteen years ago)

OK, maybe I've known some freaks or something, but I remember guys in college saying stuff like, "can you turn that up a cunt hair?"

Darin, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:40 (sixteen years ago)

Incidentally when my daughter was just starting to learn to talk me and Mrs Vague had long hard thinks about what the best equivalent of penis = "willy" would be for vulva+vagina

Mrs. Shakey and I have opted for "Britney"

Kool G Lapp (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:40 (sixteen years ago)

think i heard my dad say it once (while in the company of his old HS buddy)?

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:41 (sixteen years ago)

multi xposts

French was not the major player in the English language by Chaucer's day, at least, which wd also be round about the point when English became the monarch's first language. The French = aristocracy/Saxon = peasantry argument has got a little merit I think but not as much as people used to believe. Although that might be because the anti-French (language) backlash has been running for 500-odd years.

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:41 (sixteen years ago)

"fanny" is an icky word

chickenella fitzgerald (braveclub), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:41 (sixteen years ago)

Like not play one, just be written into it as myself.

you could be a DJ who gets mixed up in a coke deal gone wrong but ends up charming everyone into forgetting the whole thing

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)

Michael, not to give too much away but I have stuck in my head the phrase "cedarn chasm" from some randomly remembered bit of erotica. So there you go.

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)

not in the US

xps

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)

"can you turn that up a cunt hair?"

lolz I had a recording engineer who used this phrase constantly last year.

Kool G Lapp (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)

Michael that would be a terrible thing to do and like all parents we seriously considered teaching the kids hugely inappropriate names for everyday objects.

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)

Do people still use "cunt hair" as a unit of measurement?

We use "bawhair" up in the bit of Britisherland where "cunt" is an acceptable way of referring to your mates/random dudes in the pub.

ailsa, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)

Also, yeah, "fanny" way too rude for kids.

ailsa, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)

Either that or just go all rriot and tell her to call it her 'gash'.

"Well, hello, social services! What can I do for you today?"

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)

'urethral meatus' imo is the FUNNIEST-soubnding anatomical term ever. Once again there is no good word for the 'urinary meatus,' esp for men.

I appreciate the idea behind 'vajayjay' to try and come up with a friendly name for external female reproductive arena but it is dumber than even the word 'mazongas.'

Laurel is infinity-amounts right about how irritating it is people use the word 'vagina' for 'vulva.' This is my big fucking rage-on re: the Vagina Monologues. If you are trying to 'spread awareness'/destigmatize the whole thing, you are doing a stupid, stupid job of it by referring to the vulva as a vagina. Like there's a part where she's complaining about how people think 'hairy vaginas' are gross. Well I mean I HOPE she means hairy vulva bcz the thought of a hairy VAGINA is a land of confusion (and something to be justifiably disgusted by!).

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)

really hate 'gash'

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:45 (sixteen years ago)

the mons-ologues

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:45 (sixteen years ago)

I love these kinds of threads 'cause 'fanny' in America is a 'nice' word for buttocks, kinda like your 'bum', methinks so I never associate it with anything socially awkward when i hear British people utter it.

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:46 (sixteen years ago)

"Fanny" just makes me think of that Bee Gees song

Kool G Lapp (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:46 (sixteen years ago)

i knew a girl named fanny in high school

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:47 (sixteen years ago)

really hate 'gash'

Gash and snatch just irk me for some reason way more than cunt.

(Pls don't bother posting on the out of context thread...)

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:47 (sixteen years ago)

My dad was (and still is, but now only in German) incredibly fond of the word "shit" but never, ever, ever, EVER used any of the female anatomy slang or derogatory female terms around us; to this day I don't think I've ever heard heard him say "bitch" or "pussy".

xp: Once again there is no good word for the 'urinary meatus,' esp for men. uh..... dickhole?

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:47 (sixteen years ago)

This is the silliest book ever written:

http://www.booksshouldbefree.com/images/big/Fanny-Hill-Memoirs-of-a-Woman.jpg

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)

In a discussion between Americans and Britishers on this topic, I'm amazed we haven't looked more closely at the former's use of "twat".

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)

^^^yeah agree w/M. re: "gash" and "snatch" (perhaps a result of their meaning as verbs)

I'm stickin with Britney

Kool G Lapp (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)

In Confessions of a Pop Performer (1975 Brit softcore comedy) the band are hilariously called "Kipper" which is worse than gash, snatch or cunt imo.

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:49 (sixteen years ago)

chickenella fitzgerald

kudos!

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:49 (sixteen years ago)

We uh have a children's picture book called Fanny. It's a lovely book, but even as an American I can't quite bring myself to say it aloud. "You know...the pink one. With the girl and her...doll...oh fuck. Never mind."

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:49 (sixteen years ago)

xposts *Sorry, latter's.

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:50 (sixteen years ago)

You know...the pink one.

LOL

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:50 (sixteen years ago)

Well I mean I HOPE she means hairy vulva bcz the thought of a hairy VAGINA is a land of confusion (and something to be justifiably disgusted by!).

This has always confused me that women, actual possessors of the things in question, refer to them interchangeably. I most certainly don't refer to my penis and my scrotum as the same thing. It's kind of odd.

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:50 (sixteen years ago)

for the record, when I am talking about kicking someone in the vagina I am talking about literally kicking them in the vagina

just so there's no confusion

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:51 (sixteen years ago)

I blame 'Kindergarten Cop' for the interchangeability.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:52 (sixteen years ago)

Not the porno remake "Kindergarten Cock"?

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:52 (sixteen years ago)

People are perfectly capable of being stupid across the board, but I think in the case of not even knowing what your own equipment is called, the historic shamefulness of things feminine is still very operative.

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:53 (sixteen years ago)

Except in that one episode of "Spaced", which made probably the freest use of the word "vulva" that anyone except possibly an OBGYN has probably ever heard.

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:53 (sixteen years ago)

I appreciate the idea behind 'vajayjay' to try and come up with a friendly name for external female reproductive arena but it is dumber than even the word 'mazongas.'

Dammit, I've been using this ever since I heard Liz Lemon say it. I thought it was great. So much better than winkie.

Brandy Frotte and Reel De La St-Jean (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:55 (sixteen years ago)

I hate to get all Tuomas/Engler on this, but it seems that socially we have shied away, in English, from referring to female genitalia or sexuality except in the most clinical way for 4 or 5 hundred years and since vagina (to me at least) seems like such a humorless, fun-hating word, it became the only one acceptable in polite society if you really had to address the subject

(or what Laurel said.)

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:56 (sixteen years ago)

fwiw I actually use the word mazongas!

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:02 (sixteen years ago)

I hate to make a spectacle of my ignorance but what, exactly, are mazongas?

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:03 (sixteen years ago)

boobs, another thing for which there aren't any good words.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:04 (sixteen years ago)

Oh I'm fond of a few. Words, that is.

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:05 (sixteen years ago)

ie my friend (who is a chick) said she was freaked out by a Watchmen sex scene bcz 'Silk Specter had no mazongas' and I said 'sheesh the N. not every girl has mazongas.' Actually really I only use it around her.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:05 (sixteen years ago)

boobs, another thing for which there aren't any good words.

okay here I have to really disagree. there are a ton of good ones

Kool G Lapp (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:06 (sixteen years ago)

tittays

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:06 (sixteen years ago)

otm

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:07 (sixteen years ago)

There are lots of fun, fun words but like none you can use DURING without sounding silly.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:07 (sixteen years ago)

Marge: Aaaaah! My maguppies just became bazongas!
Surgeon: Woah! Are those real?

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:07 (sixteen years ago)

okay I have never been happier about not watching The Simpsons anymore

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:07 (sixteen years ago)

Other terms for "Breasts".

Kool G Lapp (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:08 (sixteen years ago)

boobs, another thing for which there aren't any good words.

Tits>boobs>>>>>>>>>>mazongas.

Usually I just say 'personality'. *Ducks*

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:08 (sixteen years ago)

Hey Dan:

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/1797/543ff90475uq9.jpg

^^^real!

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

"Large Marge" was a pretty good episode :(

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

"Are those real or did she get a personality job?" (xxpost)

StanM, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

Maxim interviewed Osama Bin Laden?

Kool G Lapp (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

Sounding silly is pretty individual, though, don't you think? Sometimes all it takes is to hear someone use it in a context that's un-silly, and it can have completely different associations after that.

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

buswabs >>> all

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:10 (sixteen years ago)

Angel Cakes Double-Whammies Loaves PT Boats
Apples Dueling Banjos Loblollies Pumpkins
Balboas Dugs Love Melons Rangoons
Balloons Dumplings Love Muffins Rib Balloons
Bangers Dunes Lulus Rib Cushions
Bangles Ear Muffs Macaroons Rivets
Bassoons Eclairs Mambos Roundies
Baubles Eggplants Mammaries Sandbags
Bazongas Enchiladas Mammies Satellites
Bazookas Flapjacks Mams Scones
Bazooms Flappers Mangos Scoops
Beacons Flesh Bulbs Marangos Set
Beanbags Flesh Melons Maraschinos Shakers
Bebops Floaters Marimbas Shebas
Betty Boops Floats Mau Maus Shimmies
Big Boppers Fog Lights Mausers Silos
Bikini Stuffers Fried Eggs Meatballs Skin Sacks
Billibongs Fun Bags Meat Loaves Skooners
Blinkers Gagas Melons Smoothies
Bombers Garbos Milk Cans Snuggle Pups
Bombshells Gazingas Milk Fountains Spark Plugs
Bonbons Gazongas Milk Shakes Specials
Bongos Glands Molehills Spheres
Bonkers Globelets Mommas Spongecakes
Boobers Globes Mondos Spuds
Boobies Gob Stoppers Montezumas Stacks
Boobs Gongas Moo Moos Stuffing
Boops Goombas Mother Lodes Sugarplums
Bops Grapefruits Mounds Sweater Meat
Bosom Grillwork Mountain Peaks Sweater Puffs
Boulders Guavas Muchachas Sweet Rolls
Bouncers Gum Drops Muffins Tahitis
Bra Buddies Handsets Mulligans Tamales
Bra Stuffers Hand Warmers Mushmelons Tartugas
Bronskis Headers Nancies Tatas
Bubbas Headlamps Nectarines Tattlers
Bubbies Headlights Niblets Teats
Buds Headphones Nibs Tetons
Bulbs Headsets Nippeloons Thangs
Bulges Hefties Nippelos Thingamajigs
Bullets Heifers Nippers Tidbits
Bumpers Hemispheres Nippies Titbits
Bumps Hills Nips Tits
Bust Hindenburgs Nodes Titskis
Busters Honeydews Nodules Titters
Busties Honkers Noogies Titties
Butterballs Hood Ornaments Nose Cones Tomatoes
Buttons Hoohas Oompas Tooters
Caboodles Hooters Orbs Torpedoes
Cannon Balls Hot Cakes Ottomans Tortillas
Cantaloups Hottentots Padding Totos
Carumbas Howitzers Pagodas Twangers
Casabas Hubcaps Pair Tweakers
Cha-Chas Huffies Palookas Tweeters
Charlies Humdingers Papayas Twin Peaks
Chihuahuas Hush Puppies Parabolas Twofers
Chimichongas ICBM's Pastries Tympanies
Chiquitas Jawbreakers Paw Patties U-Boats
Coconuts Jemimas Peaches Umlauts
Congas Jibs Peakers Wahwahs
Corkers Jobbers Peaks Waldos
Creamers Jugs Pears Warheads
Cream Pies Jukes Pects Water-Melons
Cuhuangas Jumbos Peepers Whoppers
Cupcakes Kabukis Pillows Wind-Jammers
Curves Kalamazoos Pips Wobblers
Dingers Kazongas Plums WOngas
Dinghies Kazoos Pointer-Sisters Woofers
Dingos Knobbers Points Yabbos
Dirigibles Knockers Pokers Yams
Domes Kongas Polygons Yayas
Doodads Kumquats Pompons Zeppelins
Doozers Lactoids Pontoons Zingers
Doozies Lip Fodder Potatoes

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oh kenanpaws

Kool G Lapp (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:10 (sixteen years ago)

all it takes is to hear someone use it in a context that's un-silly, and it can have completely different associations after that

Thesis.

buswabs >>> all

Antithesis.

Hi, I'm the New Celtic Manager (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:11 (sixteen years ago)

"Sometimes".

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:12 (sixteen years ago)

You know, I didn't want to be too wordy but I was going to say: frequently the context that makes me reconsider a word (or anything else) positively is formed by the person saying it, if that person does it for me already. I don't really need to elaborate on that, right?

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:13 (sixteen years ago)

i feel the love

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:14 (sixteen years ago)

Surely, there are limits, though, no, Laurel? How spectacular would your suitor have to be to get away with calling them your 'teats'?

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

"Paw Patties" LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

"Dugs"

C-Word Waddell (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

Jawbreakers--ouch

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

I don't have a problem with "teats", per se, although there are things that will just make me laugh, for sure.

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:16 (sixteen years ago)

wtf @ "Bassoons"

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:17 (sixteen years ago)

In French 'breast' is a homophone with 'healthy'. I approve.

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:18 (sixteen years ago)

"Bassoons" should be rebranded as "Phwoar Anglais".

C-Word Waddell (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:22 (sixteen years ago)

I <3 Laurel. That is all. She is totally OTM on this thread esp in regard to the importance of the person saying whatever word it is that is being used.

Ok, it's not. I don't think I'd be very happy is someone called my boobs "fried eggs". I think the term I use most often is tits.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:26 (sixteen years ago)

No one ever uses the term "Noogies" to mean breasts!

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:29 (sixteen years ago)

Hugh Laurie said "fun bags" once on House. It was awesome.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:30 (sixteen years ago)

yeah but she was basically and deliberately implying that i am a terrible person xxp

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:31 (sixteen years ago)

Once my dad said to me "you kids ruined your mothers fun bags"

THANKS DAD

chk chk BOOM! (Trayce), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:31 (sixteen years ago)

female friend of mine likes 'norks'. so i do too.

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:32 (sixteen years ago)

Duelling Banjos? that doesn't even make any sense

Kool G Lapp (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:34 (sixteen years ago)

Except in that one episode of "Spaced", which made probably the freest use of the word "vulva" that anyone except possibly an OBGYN has probably ever heard.

― But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, June 3, 2009 4:53 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark

I've seen all of them but don't remember this?! Am going to have to rewatch.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:36 (sixteen years ago)

Vulva = David Walliams character. "Puuddiiiinnng" etc.

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:37 (sixteen years ago)

Duelling Banjos? that doesn't even make any sense

They "deliver" milk to infants?

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:38 (sixteen years ago)

one has a birthmark that looks like burt reynolds

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:38 (sixteen years ago)

lol

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:39 (sixteen years ago)

I don't think I'd be very happy is someone called my boobs "fried eggs". I

I had a college friend who referred to hers as sunny-side-ups.

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:45 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.kungfunation.com/images/medium/PVT03_MED.jpg

ian, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:50 (sixteen years ago)

Somehow that's still better than "fried eggs".

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:51 (sixteen years ago)

i say boobs, per my mom and sis, but most of the women i know say tits

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 23:40 (sixteen years ago)

I guess I alternate between breasts (serious), boobs (I'm embarrassed and don't know what to call them), and tits (very jokey). But I'm not really happy with any of the terms.

Maria, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 23:52 (sixteen years ago)

It's not the word, it's the way it's used. Who cares? It's 2009! (and yes misogyny still sucks).

Nate Carson, Thursday, 4 June 2009 00:45 (sixteen years ago)

As a general rule, any use of animal or wound terms to describe female genitalia is pretty dodgy. Much of misogyny is as ingrained as what we call 'institutional' racism with the added funtime of half the victims of the language not realising it. Where that leaves us vis a vis the popular Britishes term 'growler', I do not know.

502 Bad Gateway (suzy), Thursday, 4 June 2009 00:55 (sixteen years ago)

I thought "growler" was an Australian term?

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Thursday, 4 June 2009 00:56 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=growler

Seems to have taken off in the UK from Bo Selecta, nothing Aussie indicated on the first page.

Best non-sexist term for female genitalia comes from the otherwise AAARGH sexual politics zone of Jamaica: 'pum-pum'

502 Bad Gateway (suzy), Thursday, 4 June 2009 01:10 (sixteen years ago)

Never heard of growler.

Trayce, Thursday, 4 June 2009 01:57 (sixteen years ago)

Oh wait, I was thinking that was in the context of das boobies. Stupid me.

Trayce, Thursday, 4 June 2009 01:57 (sixteen years ago)

Best use of a breast euphemism - nursing friend who got annoyed with hubby's continued reliance on breastfeeding as chillax maneuver for grizzling infants: 'As if all problems can be solved by Mama's ta-tas!'

502 Bad Gateway (suzy), Thursday, 4 June 2009 03:17 (sixteen years ago)

"Baps" has always amused me greatly - very britisher. Kind of Viz mag.

Trayce, Thursday, 4 June 2009 03:20 (sixteen years ago)

i have a four letter word even stronger than c*nt, and that word is C-A-R-E

L. Ron Huppert (velko), Thursday, 4 June 2009 03:24 (sixteen years ago)

I'm so used to the way Brits seem to use the word "cunt" that it doesn't strike me as particularly offensive. Beth is right that it seems to gain special traction merely from the hard "c" sound. I honestly don't recall a time when I ever called a woman that. "bitch" is so much more common in America.

Born Again Atheist (Bimble), Thursday, 4 June 2009 03:48 (sixteen years ago)

A lady friend of mine said "gash" the other day and my drink pretty much went up my nose.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 4 June 2009 03:57 (sixteen years ago)

i can't remember where i heard it but 'snizzpod' always made me chuckle. and 'polly'

the ring toun (electricsound), Thursday, 4 June 2009 04:04 (sixteen years ago)

SNIZZPOD?!

Trayce, Thursday, 4 June 2009 04:22 (sixteen years ago)

From wiki

"In 1996 there was controversy when AOL's obscenity filter (among others) refused to accept the name of the town due to its inclusion of the substring cunt, which the filter rejected as obscene. Some online forums such as Ultimate Guitar forums (which has recently been resolved) display the name as S****horpe, while Fark.com would display it as Scoonthorpe. This situation is known in the computing world as the Scunthorpe problem and is still an issue to Scunthorpe based internet users."

dog latin, Thursday, 4 June 2009 09:56 (sixteen years ago)

^This is the key reason for using the word 'twunt' in e-mail or possible NSFW situations.

502 Bad Gateway (suzy), Thursday, 4 June 2009 10:05 (sixteen years ago)

Stwunthorpe is a bit of a mouthful though

Dante ... Bruno . Vico .. Passantino (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 June 2009 10:09 (sixteen years ago)

bam

Sclungethorpe United (country matters), Thursday, 4 June 2009 10:12 (sixteen years ago)

Who you calling a bam? Ya fuckin' ride!

Dante ... Bruno . Vico .. Passantino (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 June 2009 10:13 (sixteen years ago)

hehehe oh ye glasgees

Sclungethorpe United (country matters), Thursday, 4 June 2009 10:14 (sixteen years ago)

Scoonthorpe

Hats off to whoever came up with this cheery, problem-free alternative

leave true black metal to those who don't deserve to listen to it (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 4 June 2009 10:27 (sixteen years ago)

that lenin's tomb guy is a cunt. google it, cunt.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Thursday, 4 June 2009 10:34 (sixteen years ago)

which coont came up that fuckr?

Mark G, Thursday, 4 June 2009 10:35 (sixteen years ago)

It was these punk rockers with their spitting and their antics... don’t they realise that love makes the world go roond?

Dante ... Bruno . Vico .. Passantino (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 June 2009 10:36 (sixteen years ago)

presumably lenin's tomb guy does not actually lie about Cable tho

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 4 June 2009 10:37 (sixteen years ago)

xpost

Oh it really really duz, like in scoonthrfuckorpe where I cum from...

Mark G, Thursday, 4 June 2009 10:38 (sixteen years ago)

Scoonthorpe

Hats off to whoever came up with this cheery, problem-free alternative

― leave true black metal to those who don't deserve to listen to it (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 4 June 2009 10:27 (1 hour ago)

lolol

otto von biz markie (bernard snowy), Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:43 (sixteen years ago)

has anyone else heard "axe wound" or is that a sheffield thing?

caek, Thursday, 4 June 2009 12:38 (sixteen years ago)

oh baby i'm thinkin' about yer axe wound

Sclungethorpe United (country matters), Thursday, 4 June 2009 12:39 (sixteen years ago)

oh the halcyon days of finding rathergood.com funny

Sclungethorpe United (country matters), Thursday, 4 June 2009 12:39 (sixteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 13 June 2009 23:01 (sixteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 14 June 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

OH CUNT YES

gosh I actually dig this shit (country matters), Sunday, 14 June 2009 23:02 (fifteen years ago)

fuck you limey.

ian, Monday, 15 June 2009 01:55 (fifteen years ago)

nine months pass...

^^^lol

acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

fuck you limey.

― ian, Monday, June 15, 2009 1:55 AM (9 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Mr. Que, Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

fuck you, you limey... cunt?

<3

ian, Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

totes

Mr. Que, Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/mediamonkeyblog/audio/2010/apr/01/nicky-campbell-fox-hunting

nate woolls, Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

I don't mind hearing it now and then, but when your best friends girlfriends every 5th word was cunt, it kinda grates.
She's get mildly drunk and call everyone a fucking cunt, not even christmas dinner with his family could stop her.

She even called his uncle (who is a priest) a soft cock in front of many guests! Not many stayed after that.

not_goodwin, Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah stop ruining pussy for everyone ;_;

― chk chk BOOM! (Trayce), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:22 (9 months ago) Bookmark

acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

this is an awesome thread

acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)

I've known people who have used the Derek & Clive "You stupid c***..." sketch as their ringtone.

Convenience Fish (snoball), Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)

three years pass...

been using this word so much lately, think it's sublimated into my quotidian

bleeding like a stoke pig (imago), Friday, 17 May 2013 22:18 (twelve years ago)

sorry, my cuntidian

bleeding like a stoke pig (imago), Friday, 17 May 2013 22:18 (twelve years ago)

two years pass...

Jeremy Kyle Show swear word broadcast because producers had not 'understood' guest's Scottish accent

The thing about this story is I can't think of a Scottish accent where this particular word would be unintelligible.

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 12:14 (nine years ago)

producers of the local news in nw england have had the same issue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znYJXIw2UKw

soref, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 12:21 (nine years ago)

"Fackin hell bit of sun and you've put the roof down you cunt!"

Said by man outside pub to his friend the other day as I passed by. I spent the next 10 mins wondering if the man felt it was the very act of putting his roof down so eagerly that was intrinsically cuntish or that he was just using this as an excuse to work in a more general accusation of cuntery towards his friend who perhaps he actually harbours a significant degree of resentment towards for other reasons.

nashwan, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 12:51 (nine years ago)

I believe the subscript relates to ".. which is a cuntish thing to do" rather than " which is only to be expected from you as you are a cunt in general"

Mark G, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 13:04 (nine years ago)

No it relates to cunt being a word used without a major implication

Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 13:34 (nine years ago)


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