DAFFY DUCK vs. BUGS BUNNY

Wartime Daffy, when he was fucking insane and much funnier

DAFFY

DAFFY (but in my sleep deprived state I think I might have voted Bugs.)

Toons with Daffy as solo protagonist are much more interesting

rabbit season

duck season

No! Duck Season! FIRE!

Daffy didn't have gender issues, did he? That could be considered a plus amongst conservative voters.

I voted for Bugs, but Daffy should collect points for being able to pull his beak around his head like that whenever a shotgun goes off in his face.

daffy in a walk.

Went with Bugs cos I thought he was cooler when I was 10.

You know, Daffy got into trouble because he kept fucking with people. The only reason Bugs got into it was because people fucked with him.

daffy- angry neighbour
bugs- neighbour that makes you angry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u14T5wzicqw

i'm not voting, they work too well as a unit.

Bugs by a hare.

daffy- angry neighbour
bugs- neighbour that makes you angry

this. as exemplified by this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snVoxwVSGhc

Thought about this long and hard over many a year, Daffy is more reliably hilarious - possibly - but Bugs is, I don't know, more admirable in the long run

Daffy is a pretty obvious boring pick, sorry ... I think if you go back and actually watch some of these cartoons you'll find that Bugs is the correct choice.

Bugs is a smartarse. Daffy speaks for the common man.

Bugs = FDR
Daffy = Huey Long

Bugs = Mephistopheles
Daffy = A daft duck

I'm kind of shocked that ppl are riding so hard for Daffy! I mean, the entire point of the character is that he's an insufferable asshole.

Okay maybe I'm not surprised.

Daffy's not really an insufferable asshole, but he's kind of like the kid who idolizes the really cool kid in school (Bugs) and, since he can't be like him, he makes everyone around him miserable by being the ANTI-him.

bugs is a little smug about all of his success, isn't he though?

the point of Daffy was that he was wacky and crazy, then later on they completely changed him into an insufferable asshole...or something, i assumed that was what happened but i don't know what order the cartoons were made in.

Shouldn't he be? He's the big fish in a tiny pond. Elmer Fudd? Not really a brainiac. Daffy? A noble opponent whose only downfall is his lack of forethought. Yosemite Sam? A spoiled brat.

Daffy's only an ass when he's paired with Bugs. When he's sharing celluloid with Porky, he's a genuine treat.

daffy's more of a stiff that just wants to be left alone than an asshole. bugs is a free, cool and happy spirit that just won't fuck off.

bugs bunny is a smug prick.

Daffy's tap dance and other antics in "Show Biz Bugs" never fail to bring me to hysterical laughter. So Daffy.

http://img274.imageshack.us/i/pdvd0235ua.png/

http://img274.imageshack.us/img274/8224/pdvd0235ua.png

Daffy's tap dance and other antics in "Show Biz Bugs" never fail to bring me to hysterical laughter.

^^^this! (but I'm still voting Bugs)

smugness aside, bugs is a juggernaut of entertainment

"Do you happen to know what the penalty is for shooting a fricaseeing rabbit without a fricaseeing rabbit license?"

"What's the hassle, schmassle?"

I admit I totally forgot about early period psycho-insane Daffy

Bugs wasn't nearly as smoove in the beginning as he ended up being later on. I credit Chuck Jones with the perfection of these characters.

Isn't this pretty much Groucho Marx vs. WC Fields? There are no wrong choices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7kpte6sji8

can't recommend the multi-volume "Looney Toons Golden Collection" enough btw. It is the single most uplifting DVD set I own. (I only have first two volumes, I think there are more by now.)

This gets quoted all the time, but all the same ...

"Of his versions of Bugs and Daffy, Chuck Jones has said, 'Bugs is who we want to be. Daffy is who we are.'"

Also: did John Ashbery ever write a poem from the p.o.v. of that glib dilletante rootless cosmopolitan of a rabbit? I think not.

Daffy to win (for once)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TFO1MgwFJ0

Early manic loony Daffy > mid-period paranoid inferiority-complex Daffy > Bugs > late humourless villainous Daffy. (Kinda sad, really, to witness Daffy's deterioating mental state over a quarter-century.

Bugs & Daffy TOGETHER >>> anything else with just one of 'em

Bugs isn't smug, he's just self-confident

omg I've never seen early Daffy, had no idea.

I guess I'm voting Buggs, but I was more of an apple core who's your friend kid.

I've always been suspicious of the "Bugs only acts when someone's messed with him" line of reasoning, because the reaction he gives to, say, having his sleep disturbed because there's an opera happening nearby (the nerve!) always seeems waaaay harder than the actual infraction. He's the guy who'll drop a nuclear bomb over your house if you poke him with a stick. I think secretly he's just waiting for those little disturbances to occur.

That opera one is a killer, sheer genius!

haha isn't there a bit where buggs keeps his glove hanging high in the air, while he nips out for a haircut or something

Leopold!

http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/3554/longhaired20hare9qo.jpg

Bugs looking a trifle smug there, it must be admitted

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/649/649921/cic200599-06_1126310557.jpg

oh no that's it, he sends off to order the ear muffs.

Voted Bugs in the spirit of mortal perfectibility.

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Daffy's tap dance and other antics in "Show Biz Bugs" never fail to bring me to hysterical laughter.

^^^this! (but I'm still voting Bugs)

― Johnny Fever, Monday, 15 June 2009 17:21 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

smugness aside, bugs is a juggernaut of entertainment

good run.

woah close one

ridikulouse

Daffy 38
Bugs 35

i loves ya, ilx, but sometimes y'all really test the limits of my love.

just trolls voting for their mirror character

Chuck Jones has had too much influence on this poll.

"Of his versions of Bugs and Daffy, Chuck Jones has said, 'Bugs is who we want to be. Daffy is who we are.'"

So Bugs is JFK and Daffy's Nixon. Whole new ballgame.

More like, "the 30s version of Daffy is how we want to feel, the Chuck Jones version of Daffy is how we really do feel."

not rly a fair question because bugs has more or less always been the same character, whereas daffy has been at least three: the 'woo hoo!' nutjob of the early years (espec. the bob clampett cartoons), the tormented antihero of the chuck jones cartoons, and the out-and-out asshole of the later years (c.f. those AWFUL AWFUL cartoons where he and speedy gonzales are teamed up). i think chuck jones era daffy is prob the best cartoon character ever, so for me it's gotta be him -- but bugs probably has more good cartoons overall.

do kids watch this stuff, have access to it or even know what it is now? it was always on TV when i was a kid, decades after it was made but i don't think i've seen one on TV for at least 20 years. These and Tom and Jerry and Road Runner. Have we lost anything that these are no longer part of childhood culture? I'm not too bothered by the absence of he disney animals, fwiw although kids probably do know who mickey and donald duck are (do they?) do any kids know who daffy duck is?

Noticed that they've started showing Bugs + Daffy again on CITV, oh happy day!

No sign of Tom + Jerry tho :(

kids totally know who tom and jerry are, and bugs bunny and daffy duck, and the road runner and wile e. coyote

but i wouldn't be surprised if the marketing might of disney eventually drowns these characters completely in a sea of spiderman and wolverine

cartoons that have become basically "lost" to today's kids: popeye, woody woodpecker

I don't remember much about Woody Woodpecker tbh

There is a Looney Tunes Show on Cartoon Network. It's pretty good. We catch it with the kids sometimes. As recently as a coyple years ago, one of those cable channels would gave regular Tom and Jerry marathons. Don't know what the situation is like today.

my kids will know 'em

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrmeTTRe6s0

Kids just godda know this!

Oh, Tom and Jerry is also getting a Cartoon Network reboot.

http://tomandjerry.wikia.com/wiki/The_Tom_and_Jerry_Show_(2013)

There is a Looney Tunes Show on Cartoon Network

I assume you're talking the classics here... My sister informed me that there's some show on cable where Bugs is on Facebook...? :p :p :p

There are horrible modern Looney Tunes

Yeah, there's one where Fred Armisen is the voice of Speedy Gonzalez.

Post-Blanc Bugs is fucking impossible to listen to. Actually, that goes for any WB character. I know it's not realistic to expect the characters to be retired after Blanc died, but none of the voices are even in the same ballpark timbre-wise, to say nothing of timing.

I can't stand Kermit's new voice either.

this revive led to me having a look around the Tom and Jerry wikia. It has a lot of beautiful writing on it. "The next day, Tom started to exsanguination look house is demolished by an antique pear-shaped wrecking ball (1922-1966)."

I was wondering if Mickey Mouse was known by kids beyond being the symbol of Disney, but it seems there's a new series of shorts - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN5SZ_6Xzwo - with a pretty serious redesign at that.

tom & jerry pissed me off so much when i was a kid. i wanted that fucktard mouse to get eaten so bad

well same w/ Road Runner for me

I saw a WECvRR where the coyote caught the road runner. The scene switched over to a kid watching the show on television in his living room go "WHOA."

Maybe my memory's foggy on that one. Seems like the coyote even looked into the camera and said "So now what do you think I should do?"

The "Epic Mickey" video game for the Wii was a pretty decent seller -- enough to merit a sequel this year -- and featured a more old-school Mickey.

More like, "the 30s version of Daffy is how we want to feel, the Chuck Jones version of Daffy is how we really do feel."

Sometimes I astonish myself.

But I'm trying to cut back.

xp You remember more or less correctly, except that, after some shenanigoats involving a tapering pipe, the coyote ends up about a fifth the size of the road runner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJJW7EF5aVk

i think i've forgotten everything i've ever known about the characteristics of looney tunes characters. the only thing i remember is that daffy was neurotic.

well same w/ Road Runner for me

And Tweety Pie?

Sylvester even got the bird inside his mouth on several attempts and was never able to put an end to the chase.

I realize now why these are relatively suppressed for the current generation of tots -- they MUSTN'T KNOW LIFE IS SPENT ON THE VERGE OF ANNIHILATION! Whereas I watched these between clips of the Vietnam War.

And yeah, Phil D. That must have been part of what I was thinking about though my memory is of the coyote actually speaking out loud.

This video has the kid in it (around 3:45), but it's been edited around and isn't the original clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kP2piN-03k

I realize now why these are relatively suppressed for the current generation of tots -- they MUSTN'T KNOW LIFE IS SPENT ON THE VERGE OF ANNIHILATION!

You are like a day and a half away from finishing your sandwich board and acquiring a cowbell, aren't you.

My advice is, Don't fear the reaper.

Stay on the lookout for drones though.

http://www.voxlumiere.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/5.jpg

And there's my clemenza joke for the day.

Ha, a Carl Stalling piece just came on my iPod. Man, what an insanely evocative composer. You can always tell when a large character is chasing a smaller one up the stairs: DUNK DUNK DUNK DUNK DUNK DUNK dink dink dink dink dink dink

always with a little humor, Eric.

Anyone remember the Tweety Pie cartoon where Sylvester has given up on eating birds, fills his mouth up with rubber, and then attempts to suck Tweety into his mouth via a straw? I may have mentioned this cartoon before.

is that with the Cats Anonymous meeting?

I thought it was alum that made his mouth shrink?
http://deeperintomovies.net/journal/image11/janshorts08.jpg

(and I believe that's one of his fellow Cats Anonymous pals on the alum assist)

sorry, got title wrong

http://s3.sidereel.com/episodes/702627/featured/88512.jpg

I thought it was alum that made his mouth shrink?

A common ruse in cartoons, totally incomprehensible to me as youngster

... and not esp. comprehensible now tbh

Alum! That's it. I always forget what makes his mouth seal up.

I still have no clue what alum is.

this guy seemed like a bro http://img.rp.vhd.me/3091676_l2.jpg

Cue "unusual details in Wikipedia articles" -

Much use was made of the supposed properties of alum as a comedy gag in films, primarily in the 1920s and 1930s. In a typical situation it would be introduced by accident or intent into foodstuffs, with ingestion causing the victim's mouth to assume a tight pucker. Speech was usually difficult or impossible. Alum's use at the time as an astringent gargle for curing sore throats provided inspiration for the gag. In animation, cartoon physics could magnify the effect — a man or woman who ingested alum would learn that it caused his or her head to shrink and/or his or her voice to become several octaves higher. This gag was famously used on Sylvester Cat in "I Tawt I Taw a Puddy Tat", "Back Alley Oproar", and "Birds Anonymous", and by Bugs Bunny in the cartoon "Long-Haired Hare", as well as in Laurel and Hardy's Tit for Tat (1935) or The Three Stooges' No Census, No Feeling (1940).

It is also a one of the rare materials that can be bought, sold, and discovered in Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood.

hahaha just about to post that.

Next up: castor oil!

http://www.collectoons.com/imgtoon/512/513/20091026_134634castor_oyl.gif

"She's the daughter of Rosie o'Grady...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/A_Hare_Grows_In_Manhattan_1.JPG

... a regular old fashioned gal"

silents made frequent use of molasses and Limburger cheese

How is it before this morning I never realized the theme music for Merrie Melodies and Looney Tunes is different? I mean, I know both of the themes at a cellular level, having heard each a billion times, but somehow never realized they're two distinct compositions.

Danny Baker plays the first half of this every week

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jufo6mIOv6k

the cartoon in which daffy duck ends up in daffy-land or whatever is totally hilarious, unbridled madness

xxp to JF: I just learned that myself a few months ago.

I'm glad it's not just me.