When popular actors end up modeling/influencing human behavior and mannerisms

Okay, this is another one of those ambitious and half-assed threads I think of before sleeping on a Sunday and tend to regret later because it's so poorly constructed (but this is what message boards are for, right?).

I'm thinking about when people, especially teenagers and children, unconsciously model themselves after popular actors and entertainers. How certain mannerisms an actor might have end up being copied by teenage boys (for example), and then those boys grow up and you've got a legion of men who were influenced by the cadences and mannerisms (and ultimately the persona) of that specific actor.

This is on my mind as I'm watching Back to the Future right now and it occurs to me that Michael J. Fox, with his high-pitched thousand-words-a-minute smartass tone of voice, was a sort of touchstone for the way a lot of other young men spoke and acted over the next ten to twenty years after (also: am I right about this example at all or do you think that's crazy? Personally, I think there's a certain smart-ass persona, and accompanying mannerisms, that Fox brought to the table that seemed to become a popular male ideal for a long time - and perhaps still is).

I guess I want to ask you if you think actors actually have that sort of power and influence on mannerisms and behavior. Have people modeled themselves after their cinematic heroes? Can you name any examples, whether general or person-specific? And do you think the way you handle yourself has ever been based on a model such as an actor or entertainer from your youth?

Like I said, watching BTTF and I think "this type of smartass American teenager, vocal cadence and all, was everywhere after this came out...." and that got me wondering. And now here I am typing the thread at some weird hour.

It was further cemented by Matthew Broderick in Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

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i don't think of marty as that much of a smartass -- specially compared with bueller or 80s cusack.

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It's difficult to say which one came first though, isn't it? I mean, certainly Fox and Cusack influenced teen behaviour, but I think they also were portraying a type that already existed.

I think the cases where it's 100% certain that the actor came up with the mannerism first and teenagers followed it are much more specific, such as teenagers repeating certain phrases from Wayne's World.

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So many witeboys thought they were Snoop Dogg, a couple years ago.

(Srsly, would roll up to the house next door while "What's my name" played loudly on the car stereo, to announce the arrival. Of Keith.)

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In what way have the actors in Friends influenced human behaviour?

^such a ross

how you doin?

i had hair like Rachel

Hair is not behaviour.

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jeez tuomas, know many teens that have travelled backwards and forwards in time?

ie Friends was at least as influencial in the 90's as Fox/Bueller were in the 80's. and probably on many of the same people, tbh.

Hair is so not behaviour.

Fixed

i bought a pet monkey because of friends.

and became a paleontologist.

Phoebe inspired me to never learn to play guitar properly.

Jennifer A's hair in that pic is just awful. Man, I detested that hairstyle so much. Still do.

I do think it's more interesting to consider actors' influence on things like speech patterns and mannerisms than on fashion, if only because the latter is so obvious.

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Did anyone ever wear those MC Hammer trousers?

I guess it was kinda cute.... NOT.

(Also, I'm not totally convinced that actors do have this kind of deep influence on mannerisms etc so I find this question interesting.)

ie Friends was at least as influencial in the 90's as Fox/Bueller were in the 80's. and probably on many of the same people, tbh.

Okay, but the question was, how did it influence mannerisms etc?

Like, I totally see how people might have watched Friends and copied a hairstyle. But it's harder for me to imagine that people watched BTTF and consciously decided to actually talk and gesture like Fox on a regular basis. (It's almost harder for me to imagine that it could have worked on a subconscious level.)
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I had an insufferable housemate who was weird and neurotic like Monica, including using v similar speech patterns and catchphrases in an everyday, non-ironic context, and also watched a hell of a lot of Friends. Don't know how common this phenomenon is...

And it isn't really related to mannerisms exactlt, but the explosion in popularity of shit coffee places like Starbucks in the UK at least, seemed to coincide with the popularity of Friends.

The guy sitting next to me at work has the exact same speech pattern as Chandler with the same if-by-x-you-mean-y constructions and sarcasm as a substitute for wit. I actually blame Friends for a lot of society's cuntiness. Is Friends popular because we are all horrible people, or are we all horrible people because of Friends?

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Yes, obviously society was humble and friendly before 1996.

Probably the second, I'm a horrible person and I've never seen much friends. So it must've been modeled after me. (Having trouble with this question because I've always, always been behind on the movies "everyone" sees.)

acting like chandler bing

i kinda agree

i think this might be more obviously true about a lot of older actors, Frank Sinatra and Marlon Brando come to mind.

I think Friends tapped into a well of horribleness that was extant at the time, but by shining a spotlight on it, they only served to perpetuate it indefinitely.

friends is funny.

i bet there are as many zach braff/jim halpert types out there now anyway.

i don't know, i think they are popular because they mimic a type people think they are, they don't really provide a particular mannerism to copy.

Do you really think Zach Braff in real life is like Jim Halpert?

The idea of feedback in Stanley Cohen's Folk Devils and Moral Panics seems to apply here. Kids see reflected but distorted version of themselves in media, ape the reflection, new reflections ape the new behaviours and so on and on.

Do you really think Zach Braff in real life is like Jim Halpert?

― sorry i poisoned u with nachos :( (HI DERE), Monday, June 15, 2009 3:15 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

idk, i just meant "sensitive underdog" sitcom/faux-indie dudes.

cunga: are the michael j fox mannerisms from back to the future or family ties? i think alex p keaton really set the template for the kind of know-it-all teenager you're referring to, and marty mcfly was an extension or maybe solidification of that character. i think you're right that michael j fox, in both roles, had a big impact.

now that we have mass media and collapsible distance and communities of shared interest we can assign popular behavior tropes to fictional figures we all watch on our flashing screens!

i think it's more worthwhile to figure out the particular sorts of behaviors that have been shaped by various pop culture phenomena than to try to come up with individual pop cultural referents in a sea teeming with them that we believe to be particularly outsize (we're kinda beyond Bogie these days).

i think alex p keaton really set the template for the kind of know-it-all teenager you're referring to

Wait, when have teenagers NOT been portrayed as know-it-alls in popular entertainment?

Before 1950s.

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i.e. RONG

I think you can narrow the widespread adoption of some behaviours down to the quite specific influence of certain pop culture icons, even if they were only mirroring social mannerisms of their time. I think there is a mis-conception that because of the Internet, people's experience of popular culture is more diverse because they can have access to micro-niche sub-cultures etc which were unobtainable beforehand. It is true that more people's experience of culture is fragmented now, but I think for the majority their consumption of popular culture really does not extend much beyond Friends or Sopranos or whatever is popular, even now. Therefore it should be quite easy to tie the widespread emergence of specific behaviours to their adoption by specific pop icons.

cunga: are the michael j fox mannerisms from back to the future or family ties? i think alex p keaton really set the template for the kind of know-it-all teenager you're referring to, and marty mcfly was an extension or maybe solidification of that character. i think you're right that michael j fox, in both roles, had a big impact.

I think they're the same mannerisms for both characters. So both> Family Ties was first but BTTF was, obviously, BTTF (the blockbuster's blockbuster)

And good points about Ferris Bueller and John Cusack roles being supportive of this archetype upthread.

idk, i just meant "sensitive underdog" sitcom/faux-indie dudes.

exhibit a for this is seth cohen - and i think that character (plus The OC in general) definitely had a huge influence on kids now.

I always thought that my mom was a lot like Claire Huxtable, and then later I realized it was because she had actually picked up certain mannerisms or tones of voice from the show. (Probably relevant that my mom doesn't speak English as a first language -- once you've learned the vocabulary and grammar of a language, it makes sense that you'd pick up the style of it, and certain ways of speaking, from things like TV.)

Probably the clearest way you see this is with tones of voice that are meant to be funny, so it becomes almost like picking up someone's schtick -- like e.g. at this point there's a Will Ferrell thing people will deploy to make certain types of Will Ferrellish jokes, and a Steve Carrell voice etc., and so on.

Also most of us don't much get to see other couples our age having serious arguments, so I think most people, when arguing with significant others, drop into this whole realm of life they mostly know from TV and film, and sorta start dramatizing their arguments along those lines.

i just think it's more interesting to talk about changes in social behavior than to continue to reify our pantheon of masspopcult figures

I believe the point of the thread is to ask how one of those things informs the other

re: Ferris
1. What kind of crazy teen plays hooky to go to a museum?
2. What kind of crazy teen did this because he saw Ferris do it?

re: Family Ties
How many people do you know who became Young Republicans because of Alex Keaton? I know maybe two.

The mannerism stuff is almost always adopted in a mocking way, not as genuine emulation. Young Republicans aside, I think we are safe from Tiger Beat shaping our nation's youth.

Also most of us don't much get to see other couples our age having serious arguments, so I think most people, when arguing with significant others, drop into this whole realm of life they mostly know from TV and film, and sorta start dramatizing their arguments along those lines.

Do "most" people really do this? Genuine question as like you say I don't have too much experience of seeing other couples arguing. In my age group (mid - late 20's) a sizeable chunk of people I seem to know have strange attitudes towards confrontation in relationships in that they can't cope with it at any level. I've been with my current partner for many years - people sometimes seem very perturbed when we disagree with each other in public (and I do mean disagree, not "have blazing rows"), like they genuinely think either that a) any kind of argument, even over very unimportant things, is going to lead to a dramatic break-up and/or b) that if we don't present a "united front" in public, it suggests we are having problems in our relationship. Seems strange to me that people think that relationships are conducted in total agreement on every issue and that as soon as you disagree it is time to split up.

Is this kind of attitude derived, as you say, from TV and film?

Hah. In my case, it's derived from no one in my family having approved ways to express anger or disagreement, but that's just me.

Probably the clearest way you see this is with tones of voice that are meant to be funny, so it becomes almost like picking up someone's schtick -- like e.g. at this point there's a Will Ferrell thing people will deploy to make certain types of Will Ferrellish jokes, and a Steve Carrell voice etc., and so on.

THIS. How many times have we seen someone overplay a facial expression or punchline and either said or thought "Stop trying to be like Jim Carrey"? Comedy is probably the best example of the influence being noticeable on society.

Also most of us don't much get to see other couples our age having serious arguments, so I think most people, when arguing with significant others, drop into this whole realm of life they mostly know from TV and film, and sorta start dramatizing their arguments along those lines.

I think that this is true for the whole realm of intimacy. You can't recall how your friend John talks when he's alone with his girlfriend and trying to pull off a "special moment," and so you rely on models from tv and film.

Do you really think Zach Braff in real life is like Jim Halpert?

^^ he's not, btw, but then who is: part of the fiction there is that most of us could only dream of having that kind of calm steady nice-guy demeanor -- it's one variety of a way bigger masculine ideal in TV/film (esp. romantic or comedic stuff) that most people cannot attain without the aid of fiction

xpost - umm when I was a kid I thought Alex P. Keaton was awesome and therefore thought it would be cool to be a Republican (they were having a good decade and I knew nothing about politics) and more importantly, like, some kind of businessman -- though of course Alex was only a crystallization of that kind of attitude being all over popular culture to begin with at that time (Wall Street! Iacocca! etc!)

xpost - ears I don't mean minor arguments I mean like closed-doors dramatic serious arguments; I have zero idea what these are "normally" like, as my exposure to ones that don't involve me have been pretty much 100% film/TV; and yet you can have them with some people where it feels very ... televisual, and I can only assume that's because that's how many people have learned how it's supposed to work. Sorry, I shouldn't have said "most," because most arguments aren't like that.

Yeah I should have put the minor arguments thing in a separate paragraph, as it was a separate (but related) point. I know what you mean about dramatization of major arguments. It is an interesting point that I hadn't considered properly before, but it makes sense as everything else is learned behaviour - where do we learn to argue in the relationship setting (assuming we didn't see our parents arguing - but then I guess they learnt to argue from watching films etc).

people sometimes seem very perturbed when we disagree with each other in public (and I do mean disagree, not "have blazing rows"), like they genuinely think either that a) any kind of argument, even over very unimportant things, is going to lead to a dramatic break-up and/or b) that if we don't present a "united front" in public, it suggests we are having problems in our relationship

THIS strikes a chord! I can't tell you the number of TOTALLY JOKEY arguments my wife and I have had over inconsequential things where we are clearly not serious and going for lolz where someone has approached one of us later on and said, "Are you guys okay? That made me very uncomfortable." It's staggering, like we're supposed to be this lock-step Stepford couple that never makes fun of each other when anyone who knew either of us would KNOW that a gigantic part of our relationship would be based on rancor-free teasing!

sex is not altogether different from the arguments thing nabisco is talking about but since it involves physiological/biological response theres a certain kind of framework that you can identify as "normal" i think

oh man there is nothing worse than someone who has sex like they think they're in a movie, especially if there is dialogue involved

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This is normalcy?

sorry introducing this in context of sex

ok well there are worse things than that, but it can be a little weird

I guess it depends on the movie

oh jesus be careful when you GIS nixon mask

thx for the warning

The entire "talk dirty to me" phenomenon is completely perplexing to me. If you have enough time to formulate nasty sentences, aren't you doing something wrong?

Philip Nunez: The actual activities and storylines the characters engage isn't really what we're talking about. We're talking more about everyday people mimicking the persona, speech cadences, comic timing etc of actors and entertainers.

And sometimes it isn't just everyone seeing the performance and copying it. There can be degrees of separation. Casting directors and Hollywood in general start wanting, say, a "Zach Braff type" and so actors and writers make sure they can give you that in an attempt to get work for themselves. Before you know it you've got an entire town who knows exactly how to perform that "type" and it can become omnipresent on television and film, and then spread to the masses from there. There probably isn't an experienced writer, and struggling Hollywood actor, who doesn't know exactly what a "Jim Halpert-type" is at this point.

The chain might be something like this

Joe Smith becomes movie star>everyone in Hollywood wants the next Joe Smith>Actors start imitating the in-demand Joe Smith>Joe Smith-persona is all over the fall pilot season and in spec scripts>Joe Smith-persona is a mainstay of popular culture>people think Joe Smith-persona is the norm.

That's very crude, obviously, but I think that series of events happens more often than most of us think.

Yep that is what I mean HI DERE. My best friend does this all the time. My partner and I will have a jokeish, semi-serious argument about a book or a film or something. And then later he will take me to one side and say "are you guys alright?" I want to shout "of course we are you plum - we've been going for seven years, you've never been able to sustain a relationship for more than about 3 months! Probably because you can never find a way to disagree with someone properly since you have this weird idealized notion of what relationships "ought" to be like" He always looks at me really sceptically when I say the key IMO to sustaining a long-term relationship is having little arguments over small things on a regular basis.

What if anything that has to do with how relationships have been portrayed in popular media I don't know.

It seems that, in most media depictions, minor arguments are either:

a) a precursor to a violent fight that results in the end of the relationship and the possible hospitalization/death of at least one of the people in the relationship; or
b) an indicator of deep, bone-set unhappiness on both sides, who are staying in the relationship due to a fatalistic sense of duty or abject terror at being single.

Of course this is because relationships as depicted in stories need to have some type of arc or development course, otherwise the actual story being told will end up incredibly boring. Real life isn't quite like stories, though.

most of the time when i have an argument with my fiancee at the level of 'in the bedroom' plate smashing or whatever, we just start cracking up after thirty seconds

musicians seem to have a lot more influence in this area then actors

i think this whole not arguing thing gets at a really big problem that i've noticed in a lot of my acquaintances. i've met tons of people that obviously just haven't learned how incredibly satisfying and life-enriching great in-depth conversation can be. it is bizarre how often i'm around people that literally just ignore each other's opinions and don't give it a second thought. its so boring! if you agree there's often nothing much to say so you move on, if you disagree you go back to distracting yourself with something that's easier and seemingly more pleasant, like TV for instance. its like a lot of people are forgetting how to have long, satisfying conversation because its so rarely depicted on TV.

i guess it might be that there are just "safe zones" for argument like sports, and i just don't participate in that kind of conversation that much because i don't know anything about it.

cunga otm. it's not like there hadn't been braff/cohen-types before but after them, on tv now you've got Zachary Levi from Chuck, Lee Pace from Pushing Daisies, the Mac guy, Demetri Martin, etc.. they all seem to be variations on a mold. it's not that difficult to see how they've contributed to an entire sub-generation of young males who now embody that whole "sensitive, indie, a little bit awkward, fast-talking smartass" vibe.

it's not that difficult to see how they've contributed to an entire sub-generation of young males who now embody that whole "sensitive, indie, a little bit awkward, fast-talking smartass" vibe

'sup

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sometimes when something irl happens ill immediately think about how this is just like x situation in y book and that will inform they way i respond i guess i can see this happening for ppl with actors

the sex and argument thing is interesting and really i mean i think there are a lot of strange and rare occasions that u might naturally reach for fictional models. i mean like someone tells u that someone close to u died i see this happen on scrn all the time but irl not really and its such a fraught moment it seems almost right 2 slip into a movie-ish pantomime of what that would look like? like to perform as kind of ritual to distance yourself and gain composure or w/e

I don't get a common personality type from those dudes at a all -- a common social class or social type, maybe, but not common personality (and I think we should be wary of thinking of "social class/type" as the same thing as actual personality)

i think this whole not arguing thing gets at a really big problem that i've noticed in a lot of my acquaintances. i've met tons of people that obviously just haven't learned how incredibly satisfying and life-enriching great in-depth conversation can be. it is bizarre how often i'm around people that literally just ignore each other's opinions and don't give it a second thought. its so boring! if you agree there's often nothing much to say so you move on, if you disagree you go back to distracting yourself with something that's easier and seemingly more pleasant, like TV for instance. its like a lot of people are forgetting how to have long, satisfying conversation because its so rarely depicted on TV.

― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, June 15, 2009 2:20 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

fyi people have been avoiding confrontation since there was confrontation to avoid

also have u ever seen a tv show people have long & satisfying conversations way way waey way way more than they do in real life

& funnier too

I don't get a common personality type from those dudes at a all -- a common social class or social type, maybe, but not common personality (and I think we should be wary of thinking of "social class/type" as the same thing as actual personality)

― nabisco, Monday, June 15, 2009 2:28 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

they also all look vaguely similar like if you told me it was a group of cousins id believe you

i wouldnt id scoff like ive seen ppl do on tv o id scoff at u

"he's so sensitive -- he owns a hoodie and a Mac"

xpost - if real-life hanging-out were reliably like the time Cliff and his old Hillman professor played pinochle with Russell and his friends, I would invite people over for dinner every other night

when popular posters end up modeling/influencing posting styles and mannerisms

could prob add Ted from HIMYM to that list. they might not share a common personality but i bet they're all wilco fans.

you realize that yr archetype basically boils down to "dork with Hollywood face", right

xpost - if real-life hanging-out were reliably like the time Cliff and his old Hillman professor played pinochle with Russell and his friends, I would invite people over for dinner every other night

― nabisco, Monday, June 15, 2009 2:32 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ya this is why how i met your mother bugs me, im like, that seems so fun, they all just hang out in this one apartment and theres a bar downstairs that they go to every night, seems like basically the greatest life in this world, and then you realize how un-great that would be in reality

"on tv now you've got Zachary Levi from Chuck, Lee Pace from Pushing Daisies, the Mac guy, Demetri Martin, etc.. they all seem to be variations on a mold"

someone with hard sociological evidence please back me up on this but lets pat nerds on the back a little and say that nerds thru sheer nerd-power made these popular images acceptable not the other way around.

To max's point, the time distortion thing in TV series definitely screws with perception of relationships; pretty much by definition you only see the characters on a show when they're hanging out together because those are the only times something intersting happens in their universe whereas in real life you probably have an entirely different set of people that you spend time with every now and then, plus there is at-home-having-sex-and/or-masturbating time.

i wonder how many people have moved to NYC because of shows like how i met your mother and sex and the city and how fun they make new york seem

I'm guessing like 80% of the under-30 population

(the other 20% moved there specifically for school/work)

hi dere those arent mutually exclusive

i moved to new york because of teenage mutant ninja turtles

What shows are immigrant underclass of NYC watching to draw them there? Seinfeld?

the takeaway is that there are ppl in the 80% who picked work/school that could get them to NYC because of the madcap HIMYM lifestyle

i moved to st. louis because of the john larroquette show

i moved to new york because i was a teenage mutant ninja turtle

i've never lived in new york, it looks like a shithole from what i can tell on tv

mr. que have u seen tmnt?

mr que watched a lot of west wing and capitol critters

You guys should just be getting ready for the wave of Brits who are preparing to move to Baltimore in order to pursue their dreams of being homicide detectives.

it is true that TMNT makes living in a sewer seem like the greatest idea ever

wow, turtles named after painters eating pizza, new york has everything doesn't it?

also have u ever seen a tv show people have long & satisfying conversations way way waey way way more than they do in real life

idk what shows you're watching. how can you even depict a realistic "long & satisfying" conversation on a tv show?

i joined the foot clan to get to nyc but instead the transferred me to dimension x

idk what shows you're watching. how can you even depict a realistic "long & satisfying" conversation on a tv show?

― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, June 15, 2009 2:58 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

by filming two actors engaging in a pre-written dialogue?

wow, turtles named after painters eating pizza, new york has everything doesn't it?

it even has a technodrome and long satisfying conversations

"idk what shows you're watching. how can you even depict a realistic "long & satisfying" conversation on a tv show?"

There was an episode of Deep Space 9 called "Brunching with Grand Nagus" (Wallace Shawn plays the Ferengi Grand Negus)

Que, you're forgetting:

- giant rats who know martial arts
- hot reporters with low standards
- evil samurai
- brain aliens in punchable robot suits

well it's relative, though -- moving to New York does genuinely provide something closer to that lifestyle (haha especially if everyone you meet came looking for the same thing) ... or anyway real NYC isn't that much more distant from camera NYC than real Chicago is from camera Chicago (even on My Boys)

no no no i'm totally joking around, TMNT is great

There was an episode of Deep Space 9 called "Brunching with Grand Nagus" (Wallace Shawn plays the Ferengi Grand Negus)

in fairness, nothing Star Trek-related is likely to be a good example of a long & satisfying conversation

I should have noted earlier that I WISH my mom talked like Clair Huxtable.

I mean, doing a long & satisfying conversation on Star Trek usually means you are doing Star Trek wrong.

i like my long and satisfying conversations punctuated by shrilling yelling SHREEDDDDER! just btw

i think i learned to be a sarcastic smartass from 'blackadder' most of all </britishes>

someone with hard sociological evidence please back me up on this but lets pat nerds on the back a little and say that nerds thru sheer nerd-power made these popular images acceptable not the other way around.

No sociological evidence, but this thing wasn't cool when James van der Beek was doing it.

i like my long and satisfying conversations punctuated by pizza, ninja throwing stars, nunchuks and sewer drippings

SSSHHHRREDDDDDDER!!!!

NB this is making me want a thread about what not-super-realistic films/TV people think really capture a given city or place -- like sitcoms and whatnot that feel right in spirit

Minneapolis = The Mary Tyler Moore Show (except for the hat-throwing; no one in their right mind is throwing their hat in the air during a MN winter)

has Minnesota ever offered Betty White some kind of official recognition for her tireless work in pretending to be from there?

Actually IIRC there was a minor uproar over The Golden Girls and the fictional town of St. Olaf, since that's the name of one the more-visible liberal arts colleges in the greater TC metro area and it was being used to depict clueless yokels!

the Department of Chickens was especially incensed

(but yeah, I remember finding it funny as a kid when I learned that was a college)

they have very good choirs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkv6aoATm0Q&feature=related

bbc presenters of facual history/science/nature programmes and their hugely fucking irritating mannerisms, discuss