Star Wars vs Indiana Jones

indiana jones only had one shitty modern sequel

Star Wars = Raiders
Empire > Temple
Jedi < Crusade

^ selective memory

Can't really fuck with orignal SW trilogy as epic mythmaking, but the Indy films (first three anyway) are funnier, more self-aware and have more exciting action sequences and engaging characters.

In other words my head says Indy, but my heart might say Star Wars.

Will this be as lopsided a poll as one might assume?

given that i can't predict which way you thought it would go, i'm guessing it won't be.

voted Indiana Jones, because Lucas left them the fck alone until recently.

and they're much better movies, actually.

i'm thinking that, as unpleasant as it is to sort through turds in a bowl like this, i reckon that the new Indy was worse than all of the new SW films.

indiana jones only had one shitty modern sequel

― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:08 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

star wars had no modern sequels FACED

i reckon that the new Indy was worse than all of the new SW films

i think it benefitted from less baggage and less weight of expectationv - at least i found i could enjoy it a bit more due to caring less, or something

no, RS is right.

the new indy was a billion times better than the new star wars movies

well that's only ur opinion

no

s1ocki otm

oh, pwned

the new indy was not a billion times better than anything. it was only just better than getting beaten up with a lead pipe.

blueski makes a good point tho. maybe it is a matter of age at the time, but i was super excited when the SW prequels were announced, but i assumed the Indy film would be a disaster from the get go, so even though it was still way below my expextations i definitely fell less further.

less further?

what was the single specific worst thing about it iyo?

the whole end sequence, without doubt. it was as if they wanted to make sure that anyone who was undecided at that point walked away confident that it had been a piece of shit.

13-yr-old me would die if he knew i was saying this, but its gotta be indy

better movies, more fun to watch, stand up better to repeated viewings

i still havent seen indy 4

it's v good, you should give it a go

the not-great-at-all new Indy is yards better than the three SW prequels.

berto are you sure that you didnt see attack of the clones by mistake and think that it was the new indy

noooooooooooooooooo

the story for Indy 4 is very mid-90s and i wonder if the effects would've looked that much worse had they made it then

star wars is pretty bad in general. like the whole thing.

why do you hate magic and dreams

i hate industrial light & magic and dreamworks

Harrison Ford ruling all the time and having mostly good supporting actors around him >>>> Harrison Ford ruling only occasionally as part of a really spotty ensemble

this thread is full of penises left over from some bach party somewhere

only nerds will pick star wars

unlike the virile specimens of manhood voting for indiana jones on an internet poll

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IJ, mostly for "I should have mailed to the Marx Brothers!"

And by that, I mean a level and lightness of wit (whether scripted or happenstance-ual) which doesn't exist at all within the Star Wars films.

a "no ticket!" moment in Star Wars would've been awesome granted

or a scene where Luke bumps into Darth Vader at a Corsucant rally and gets his 'how to use the Force' guidebook signed

raiders >>>>>>>>> star wars trilogy > last crusade >>>> star wars prequels >>>> temple of doom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indiana jones 4

haha where did that spacing come from

"Temple of Doom" is way better than that; I might rate it above "Last Crusade".

last crusade > raiders > o.g. star wars > temple of doom > prequels > stupid indiana jones sequel

http://www.comedycentral.co.uk/files/imagecache/showhub-b-main/2009/01/21/shortround.jpg

^^^ way way way better than Jake Lloyd

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^^^ not way way better than anybody

last crusade > raiders > o.g. star wars > temple of doom > prequels > stupid indiana jones sequel

bang otm

not way way better than anybody

Not better than Marion, no, but certainly better than homegirl from "Last Crusafe" and super-entertaining in her nonstop whinefest.

you have got to be kidding me.

last CRUSAFE?!

no seriously... entertaining? really?!?!

Temple of Doom is my favourite! Saw it at the cinema at exactly the right age and it was probably the most exciting event of my life up to that point. I'll concede that Raiders is technically a better film.

1/2 of that movie is like being locked in a cab with a drunk hysterical bipolar cougar

chap said it all, basically

super-entertaining in her nonstop whinefest.

I think 'super-entertaining' must mean very different things 2 u and me

I like laughing at her!

Temple of Doom is my favourite too. I also LOVE Return of the Jedi. My taste hasn't changed much since age 9.

are we going through this shit again? It's self-evident that Temple of Doom is the best. Dan otm.

Short Round > Sean Connery.

Temple > Empire > Star Wars > Raiders > Jedi > Last Crusade. Anything post 1990 didn't happen.

temple of doom is the worst for a lot of reasons but right now its cuz its the most racist by a long shot

I hate all that shit about Temple being too dark and scary for kids. Speak for your own pussyhole kids! I loved a bit of heart-ripping aged six.

I was just gonna say, face-melting and impromptu open heart surgery are two images that will stay with me forever

1/2 of that movie is like being locked in a cab with a drunk hysterical bipolar cougar

― Miss Fitzhenry (s1ocki), Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:48 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

So it's totally awesome, then?

see now these are the moments where i miss unreg ilx because this thread could use some quality NERD RAGE

Temple of Doom is my favourite! Saw it at the cinema at exactly the right age and it was probably the most exciting event of my life up to that point. I'll concede that Raiders is technically a better film.

― chap, Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:47 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^^ although TBH, Grease or the first Star Wars movie (or the third... I mean the first one released in theaters) was probably the most exciting event of my life up to that point. Also Temple has lost some of its joy for me as an adult b/c yeah, it is pretty racist and also sexist.

i suppose we have a thread as to why an adventure movie aimed at kids in homage to the matinees of the 30's-50's is sexist and racist?

if u cant figure out why those movies are racist u are probably british, or racist

well, i'm not british

i suppose we have a thread as to why an adventure movie aimed at kids in homage to the matinees of the 30's-50's is sexist and racist?

Yeah. It doesn't really excuse it but, weirdly, that movie is one of the few instances where that type of thing doesn't bother me.

racism in Ghostbusters is fine, otoh

particularly if we are bringing it up in contrast to a set of movies where jar jar binks et al exist.

ghostbusters is racist????????????

ha Jar Jar didn't bother me because I thought he was racist, he bothered me because I thought he was intensely, unreasonably annoying

fyi were bringing up temple of dooms racism in contrast to raider of the lost ark and the last crusades racism

the fact that you thought something based off black people was intensely, unreasonably annoying = pretty racist imo

i thought Watto was more racist than Jar Jar but I can't put my finger on why

actually yeah dan i think you need to think about what you said

Best Kate Capshaw bit in TOD is when Spielberg has the nerve to film a scene in 1984 in which a woman actually says, "Ohhhh I chipped a nail," after which she flips her hand and there's a giant aphid crawling on it.

the nerve of that guy

the fact that you thought something based off black people was intensely, unreasonably annoying = pretty racist imo

actually yeah dan i think you need to think about what you said

ok lol @ you both forever

i think you need to take a long deep look inside your soul dan

YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND THERE MR RACIST MAN

oh wow, nougat

i'm a soul dan

Capshaw's character pretty much scripted to correspond 100% to six year old's mental image of URGH GURLS - she's annoying but then she's supposed to be, and thus I'd say yeah she adds to the entertainment. But I rep for Elvira out of Tiny Toons, too, so...

Indiana Jones by a wide, wide margin. Because once upon a time Spielbergo actually knew how to make a movie. (Lucas has never really fully grasped it tbh)

i like the anecdote in the you are a great king story here about acting in a movie with amrish puri (the heart-ripping dude).

perhaps I misunderstood but I was assuming this was Star Wars (the movie) vs. Raiders of the Lost Ark

would be a tougher call, that

are we going through this shit again? It's self-evident that Temple of Doom is the best. Dan otm.

― post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:52 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

first 1/2 hour maybe

Alfred, I hear "chipped nail" complaints IRL 2009 if that helps you (come to Jersey)

yeah the other thing about temple of doom is that it doesnt have any rad archeological mysteries the way the other two do

still there's no better line in any of these movies than "IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!!!" i don't know why that line is so good it just is

I rep for Elvira out of Tiny Toons, too

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

voiced by one of my all-time celebrity crushes, Cree Summer

http://www.sweetslyrics.com/poze/bio/CREE-SUMMER.jpg

(lol why did I never actually notice the Lisa Bonet resemblance before)

i use that line in real life when i can.

Elvira

Elmyra

really not good to confuse the two

i use that line in real life when i can.

― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:17 PM (52 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

"I rep for Elvira out of Tiny Toons"?

duh

still there's no better line in any of these movies than "IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!!!" i don't know why that line is so good it just is

― Miss Fitzhenry (s1ocki), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 16:17 (2 minutes ago) Permalink

"I rep for Elvira out of Tiny Toons"

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I'm approaching this as a team battle, a la Tekken.

Star Wars v. Raiders - Raiders, but it takes a major league whuppin'.

Raiders v. Empire - Empire takes it, but not without taking a whuppin' itself.

Empire v. Last Crusade - Last Crusade, but barely.

Last Crusade v. Jedi - Jedi, only because it was the freshest to the fight.

I regard all prequels and sequels to the original trilogies as revisionist histories.

This is, of course, taking into account a diminished health meter from fight to fight for the incumbent fighter.

Straight up, I think the Indy Series takes it.

My all-time fave line is from TOD, in the bug room - "We are going to DIE!!!!"

seriously^^^^^

I challoply voted IJ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TRAnly5viA

All about the brow.

I mean, it feels like a challop to my own sensibilities, not in terms of the course of the thread. But I think it's right.

All about the brow.

Totally. ANGRY -> Sad dog pout.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

I voted Indy back when I first saw Raiders and that's how I'm voting now.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

wow

I think the IJ movies worked better for adults, and the SW movies for kids, although clearly there was plenty of crossover appeal for both series.

Don't think I got round to voting, but probably would've gone for Indy.