DAMON v WAHLBERG

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vs.

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OMG Jho you suck this is a very difficult question for me. I don't want to have to choose!

Well I'm not sure who Mark's bff is except that it's not Ben Affleck.

"are you a cwawp?!" cracks me up every time

I saw a friend the other night who was recently working on the Wahlberg/Bale movie "The Fighter" which just wrapped filming and he said that MW is v short but also exceptionally nice and awesome. :D

damon is better and has been in better movies but it doesn't matter

whew I have six days to think this one over - good

its tough i know im grappling w/it myself

this poll is mindlowwing

blowing

"damon is better and has been in better movies but it doesn't matter"

No way on one and probably not true on two either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w-XPMoPuRg

basically comes down to Boogie Nights vs. The Incredible Mr. Ripley, the rest of each actor's ouevre either being mildly enjoyable trash or distinctly unenjoyable trash.

Kinda wanna go with Wahlberg

Boogie Nights was distinctly unenjoyable trash imo

Hey, goat. It's good to see you. I like your beard. I had a beard like that in The Perfect Storm. Did you see that movie? [goat stares ahead oblivious] Did ya, did ya see The Perfect Storm, goat? [goat still stares ahead blankly] Say hi to your mother for me, okay?

See I haven't even started thinking about thier actual talent or whatever. I was focusing on who I'd rather hang out with.

ok lets break this down moviewise

DAMON
bournes
departed
talented mr ripley
informant
syriana
gerry

WAHLBERG
boogie nights
departed
i heart huckabees
three kings

I wouldn't want to hang out with either of these guys, actors are jerks

lol incredible mr ripely - settle down buddy

say hello to your mother for me

School Ties vs. Basketball Diaries

Wahlberg's the better actor, still hasn't shown us his limitations, and is still kinda hot. Damon's a limited actor who's made a few good action pictures and whose face is starting to resemble poached salmon.

Marky wins.

Well I'm not sure who Mark's bff is except that it's not Ben Affleck.

― Percy Slight (wanko ergo sum), Thursday, 24 September 2009 21:42 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

Some form of

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Surely? (not him but some sort of shelled animal.)

italian job, don't forget that one

The Big Hit!

gotta respect wahlberg for rising like a phoenix from the ashes of marky mark.

such a unrealistic career path, and yet...

magic third nipple

The Big Hit!

lolz thought I was the only person that saw this

oh man this is tough

xp no way every HK action fan was way into it.

While I'm leaning towards Wahlberg I feel like I'm going to wind up voting Damon if only to try to balance out some of the hate!

I'm actually pretty neutral about Damon. I just happen to really like Wahlberg.

tempted to vote Wahlberg solely for this line:

I'm the guy who does his job. You must be the other guy.

in general i think damon has made better movies and i gotta applaud the guy for choosing good roles and escaping the celebrity trap that affleck fell into

otoh wahlberg is also great and should sit on my faaaaace

I'm the guy who does his job. You must be the other guy.

yesssssssssssss

from wahlberg imdb:

# The Other Guys (2010) (filming)

"in general i think damon has made better movies"

But he's usually not the best thing about these movies (and often he's either actually detrimental to their success or completely unremarkable.)

^^ yep.

I can't decide if I should give him credit for basically non-acting in the Bourne movies or not.

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Entertainment/images-2/marky-mark.jpg

feel it feel it

haaaaah

Soundtrack:

* 2000s
* 1990s

1. "30 Rock" (1 episode, 2008)
- Do-Over (2008) TV episode (performer: "Good Vibrations")
2. Blades of Glory (2007) (writer: "Good Vibrations") (performer: "Good Vibrations")
3. Rock Star (2001) (writer: "Good Vibrations")

4. Analyze This (1999) (writer: "Good Vibrations") (performer: "Good Vibrations")
5. Southie (1998) (writer: "Super Cool Mack Daddy") (performer: "Super Cool Mack Daddy")
6. The Big Hit (1998) (writer: "Don't Sleep") (performer: "Don't Sleep")
7. Boogie Nights (1997) (performer: "The Touch" (1986), "Feel the Heat" (1997))
8. Fear (1996) (writer: "The Illist", "Irie Vibe") (performer: "The Illist")
... aka No Fear
9. Renaissance Man (1994) (performer: "LIFE IN THE STREETS", "IN LOVE", "UNITED")
... aka Army Intelligence
... aka By the Book
10. The Mighty Ducks (1992) (writer: "GOOD VIBRATIONS") (performer: "GOOD VIBRATIONS")
... aka Champions (Australia) (UK)
... aka The Mighty Ducks Are the Champions (UK: video box title)

I mean if you can imagine Laurence Harvey doing a great job in a role then it's clearly not an acting challenge.

i'm just wondering in the spirit of Bay Arean unity, whether there's any topic me, Alex, and Shakey can agree on.

fuk u damon owns as bourne completely

Sure, but he owns by basically not DOING much. I mean he's not exactly channelling Brando or anything.

its called SUBTLETY

^^^

Mark's cocky, street-wise persona contributed to his fame. During concert performances, he was known for stripping to a pair of white briefs, gyrating his hips and rubbing his crotch.[10] In the dedication of his 1992 book Marky Mark, co-authored with photographer Lynn Goldsmith, Wahlberg says in the preface that "I wanna dedicate this book to my cock".[5]

I was all set to vote Damon, but I'm being swayed.

i hate to take points off for marky but THE HAPPENING oh maaan

(poor bastard managed to be pretty hilarious in the role -- hopefully it was his intent)

"its called SUBTLETY"

It's also called being told to shut up and look serious.

haha, cocky, street-wise persona

http://www.thelaughingplanet.com/cheyney/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/poochie.gif

did anyone actually see max payne?

i hate to take points off for marky but THE HAPPENING oh maaan

(poor bastard managed to be pretty hilarious in the role -- hopefully it was his intent)

― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:17 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

matt damon wrote AND starred in good will hunting

wahlberg wins for being a legit thug

re Max Payne: yeah ... it had marlo from the Wire in it.

saw like 5 mins of max payne on tv - it seemed really super awful in a not at all funny way

fuk u damon owns as bourne completely

^ that.

Marky Mark is a douche, though I liked that "say hi to your mother for me" bit on snl. voted damon, bourne is too good.

Wahlberg has a really weird looking cock.

"I wanna dedicate this book to my cock"

I may have to go with MW afterall because that is the best deidication ever.

i can think of other things to dedicate to his cock am i right ladies

Wahlberg strikes me as someone trying to atone for being constitutionally evil, and we should applaud this, but it is better not to be evil in the first place, and shouldn't we applaud that more?

^^^otm

listen u guys are welcome to vote on whatever grounds u feel but

i'm not sure what that even means tbh

3. Rock Star (2001)

this movie is SO FUCKING BAD

even tho McNulty is in it

"constitutionally evil"

oh god this is so difficult WHY CAN'T I HAVE BOTH

The Talented Mr. Ripley (1999) .... Tom Ripley
... aka The Mysterious Yearning Secretive Sad Lonely Troubled Confused Loving Musical Gifted Intelligent Beautiful Tender Sensitive Haunted Passionate Talented Mr. Ripley (USA: complete title)

hahaha excuse me??

yeah not v loving imo

Wahlberg strikes me as someone trying to atone for being constitutionally evil, and we should applaud this, but it is better not to be evil in the first place, and shouldn't we applaud that more?

― Philip Nunez, Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:28 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^otm

Er, no? Perfection is more boring than striving for perfection.

voted damon. wahlberg is hot, though, and v. funny in i heart huckabees. you guys don't have a proper appreciation for bourne, except for jho.

Damon's okay, but Ryan Phillippe can play Bourne.

No way!

listen u guys are welcome to vote on whatever grounds u feel but

― ice cr?m, Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:32 PM

but what

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAX1ikUryEI

maybe fuck yourself

MW is v short but also exceptionally nice and awesome. :D

a friend who worked on that eagles movie said they had to search far and wide for wee football players to stand next to him on the field.

Wahlberg's the better actor, still hasn't shown us his limitations

I love wahlberg, but I totally disagree with this. All his best characters are basically bullies of varying degrees of vulnerability. He needs other actors to bounce off of - any role where he isn't either pushing someone around or apologizing and he has no charisma. Damon could do all of wahlberg's roles competently but judging from Shooter I doubt Marky could do Bourne.

Likewise, Damon would have a breeze just cocking around like Wahlberg in the Departed (admittedly with less volatility) while Wahlberg wouldn't have a chance of pulling off the soulless of Damon's character.

soullessness, rather

i hate this TS though, cuz wahlberg may be the best bully in the history of film

somewhere thomas f. wilson is crying...
http://images.wikia.com/bttf/images/e/eb/Biff_1955.JPG

i doubt it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwY5o2fsG7Y

WAHLBERG
boogie nights
departed
i heart huckabees
three kings

this list needs four brothers (his best, imo), traveler and fear

lol it's pretty funny because mark wahlberg is exceptionally good at playing nice guys who are not bullies at all, cf three kings, boogie nights, even the big hit.

POP!!

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Wahlberg definitely, he's one of the few actors that entertains me even in shitty movies.

Also disagree that he only plays bullies. He very good at some macho dumb hyper-vulnerability that is kinda fascinating to watch.

Like, he can play SINCERE convincingly

I like guys who CAME UP FROM THE STREETS so WAHLBERG

But it's true wahlberg could never do Bourne. He's way too expressive.

Damon for sure.

DAMON
bournes
departed
talented mr ripley
informant
syriana
gerry

plus:
Rounders
The Good Shepherd

He needs other actors to bounce off of - any role where he isn't either pushing someone around or apologizing and he has no charisma.

Isn't this the case with every good actor?

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"Wahlberg was originally cast as Linus Caldwell in Ocean's Eleven; Matt Damon played the role."
^^^ not a good idea

re: being really good at playing sincere, I think that's right. And Damon couldn't play those kinds of characters - he's great at distanced (even insincere) characters, the Ripleys and Bournes, and does comedy Wahlberg could never pull off.

Marky Mark is really good in Shooter because he's not a Bourne-like blank.

maybe fuck yourself

― iirc flair (J0rdan S.), Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:14 PM

k

playing nice guys who are not bullies at all, cf three kings, boogie nights, the big hit

he bullies the shit out of spike jonze in three kings, and in boogie nights he's LITERALLY swinging a big dick around. i enjoy the big hit but i don't think his performance would be noteworthy without that "puddy tat" voice he's using. and I as I said above, I think the vulnerability has to come with the bullying. otherwise he's just a wet noodle like in rock star. damon is definitely more detached and intellectual but he can still play sincere.

Damon has never approached MW's performances in 3K and Huckabees.

have you seen The Big Hit morbz? he's at least as wonderful to watch in that as he is in Three Kings.

Damon is OK as Linus in the odd-numbered Oceans but Marky Mark's trademark wounded sincerity would have been perfect

why would he waste his talents on those fucking powdered-donut movies?

sorry, late reaction but... Four Brothers was fucking horrible.

My problem with Damon is that I never get any sense of him from his movies. He's got an extraordinarily closed-off acting style, and to me it's a turnoff. It's almost like he's hiding something about himself. How he got to be a bankable movie star is kind of hard for me to fathom, although given the action stuff he's been doing, showing emotion is not much called for. If he's gay and that's the reason (I have no knowledge or sense that he is) he should come out. Wahlberg is the more appealing actor to me.

Both of them have been in some great movies, though

why wont matt damon love me

lolz
for what it's worth, Affleck has a more appealing persona than either Damon or Wahlberg, imo

and you mean CASEY, of couse.

why would he waste his talents on those fucking powdered-donut movies?

# The Brazilian Job (2011) (announced) .... Charlie Croker
# Max Payne (2008) .... Max Payne
# The Happening (2008) .... Elliot Moore
# Four Brothers (2005) .... Bobby Mercer
# The Italian Job (2003) .... Charlie Croker
# The Truth About Charlie (2002) .... Joshua Peters
# Rock Star (2001) .... Chris 'Izzy' Cole
# Planet of the Apes (2001) .... Captain Leo Davidson
# The Perfect Storm (2000) .... Bobby Shatford
# Fear (1996) .... David McCall
# Renaissance Man (1994) .... Pvt. Tommy Lee Haywood

BAD movies are not the same as disposable fluff.

(sdic, u were aruing that O11 & 13 are crown jewels)

The only films in which I've enjoyed Damon are Gerry & Stuck On You.

I was saying nothing of the sort

"Wahlberg was originally cast as Linus Caldwell in Ocean's Eleven; Matt Damon played the role."
^^^ not a good idea

― ice cr?m paint job (milo z), Friday, 25 September 2009 13:59 (Yesterday) Bookmark

they're a million times better disposable fluff than shitty action remakes of The Italian Job or "Look out! Trees!" though (and Soderbergh's O11 is at least 70 times better than the Rat Pack one, despite having similar artistic intentions to shitty action remakes of The Italian Job)

love the idea that Max Payne is a serious film that just fell short of its ambitions though

I still can't decide tbh but I'm leaning towards Damon at this point because I feel like he needs the support more.

Matt Damon: Could use a hug.

Am good at hugs. Would volunteer.

re-fuse to choose~

My kneejerk reaction was Matt Damon but then I realized that underneath that putty goody-good face is actually an asshole who has managed to appear a good actor but isn't really. Whereas Marky Mark was a young douchebag but that was just a front really. Shit, I sort of dug his cocky ways. It was pretty cute. And he's not shy to (admit the) fail really So Marky Mark.

Damon tends to be in fewer shitty films, and has never given a performance (that I've seen) that I'd call bad. Plus, Talented Mr. Ripley. He wins.

I want more and more Bourne movies, until he's grizzled and covered with scars.

The Bourne Obsolescence

this poll is mindlowwing

― Mr. Que, Thursday, September 24, 2009 3:47 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

watching the Bourne movies was like watching someone else play a video game - they made Die Hard 4 look great in comparison

What? That is crazy talk.

I don't mind farting and I may be crazy.

damon is a better human being but... god, this is agonizing.

Better human being? eh? Like dumping your girlfriend in front of the camera?

I was wondering why you called him an asshole. Eh, I'd forgotten about that whole thing. Whatever - who knows the whole story. I still <3 him.

http://www.falloutcentral.com/news/2007/10/24/never-forget-mark-wahlberg-the-asian-hate-criminal/

I want more and more Bourne movies, until he's grizzled and covered with scars.

― Beth Parker, Saturday, September 26, 2009 6:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it should be a law: minimum one bourne a year

As long as they kept being as good - would support this legislation.

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There was this interview with a woman playing a m->f transsexual (transamerica?) and her trick to approximating this was to make awkward exaggerations of how a woman behaves, and this is also the trick Andy Samberg uses to play Wahlberg (in the sense that he is an awkward exaggeration of how nice and sincere people behave). Wahlberg is a transniceual.

What kind of reductive tricks could you apply to Matt Damon? It seems like he might have OCD or an eating disorder but it's well hidden if he does.

This is kinda hard, I guess Mark Wahlberg's more charismatic and a better movie star, but on the other hand Damon is a better actor. Still, even though Wahlberg's been in some great movies, I can't remember a movie that would've been great mostly because of him (not that he's ruined any movie either, let's just say that he's smart enough to choose the sort of roles that play to his strengths), whereas I can't imagine The Talented Mr. Ripley being half as good without Damon's performance. That's like one of the top 10 ten performances of the last 10 years. So I gotta go for Damon.

like more Damon movies (bourne rules) but wahlberg is hilarious and I think I like him better

This is kinda hard, I guess Mark Wahlberg's more charismatic and a better movie star, but on the other hand Damon is a better actor. Still, even though Wahlberg's been in some great movies, I can't remember a movie that would've been great mostly because of him (not that he's ruined any movie either, let's just say that he's smart enough to choose the sort of roles that play to his strengths), whereas I can't imagine The Talented Mr. Ripley being half as good without Damon's performance.

Different strokes and so on, but I have the opposite view; and Huckabees is inconceivable without Wahlberg. As for TMR, he played what the director required, but it's such a grotesque misreading of the novel and character that I can't give him full credit (and there's scenes in that movie I like very much); he turned Ripley into River Phoenix in My Own Private Idaho.

I've never read the novel, so I didn't care about any misreadings, I thought his performance was perfect as such, and the movie was so much better because of it. I love Alain Delon in general, but compared to Damon his performance in the same role felt kinda empty.

"Huckabees is inconceivable without Wahlberg."

Except for one crucial part that is tailor-made for Wahlberg (and I agree he is awesome in delivering that one phrase and no one else can do it), Patton Oswalt could have done the rest of his scenes more credibly.

Mark Wahlberg acting with the plant in the Happening shoulda got the plant an oscar.

apart from the dinner table scene, I don't remember anything about Wahlberg in Huckabees at all. isn't he only in it for like 15 minutes?

15 minutes + 45

apart from the dinner table scene, I don't remember anything about Wahlberg in Huckabees at all. isn't he only in it for like 15 minutes?

― man, motherfuck a paddington bear (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, September 28, 2009 3:42 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

UH

wahlberg is by a long shot the best and most memorable thing about huckabees

hey I saw that movie once when it came out and was mostly only interested in Lily Tomlin so I don't remember a whole lot of it

All I can remember from Huckabees is Tomlin and Dustin Hoffman, and that they were ontological agents or something. I can't even remember who was the protagonist in that movie (it wasn't Wahlberg, was it?).

the protagonist in that movie was ~~lyfe~~

I think Wahlberg's part is getting overestimated here - he was billed like 5th or 6th and reading the plot synopsis it seems like his main role in the film was to a) introduce the villain and b) put out the fire at the end.

but again, I haven't seen it since it came out

i just watched it like two months ago

and he was the best and most memorable thing about it

his main role in the film was to be hilarious

word

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uOUHmbTIyY&feature=related

love how every scene ends w/him pushing someone over

<3 <3 <3

That clip is awesome.

wahlberg is by a long shot the best and most memorable thing about huckabees

seriously. so freaking hilarious in that movie.

riding his bike to fires

maam, poems are amazing, ok

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Matt Damon is down w/Boise so I am down w/Matt Damon.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

voted wahlberg

Woah so close!

A squeaker.

poll results correct, though, I think

what the hell is this ted shit

― un® (dayo), Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:52 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

A couple summers ago I kept running into crews filming around town thought maybe I'd feel obligated to see it because of that but no, it looks dreadful. Why Mark, why?

but it's by the creator of the universe's smuggest stoner cartoon show!

never saw this thread, surprised by the poll results, thought damon would win purely off ilx's love of bourne

I thought he'd have won by a mile - reading back there seems to be a deep pool of love for I Hear tHuckabees?

I Hear Thuckabees was by far the worst live action Dr. Seuss adaptation