individuals who have at some point been the biggest movie star

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burt reynolds

ice cr?m, Saturday, 17 October 2009 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

jerry lewis

ice cr?m, Saturday, 17 October 2009 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

tom cruise

no hongro (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 17 October 2009 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

tom hanks

ice cr?m, Saturday, 17 October 2009 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

jodie foster?

a perfect urkel (gbx), Saturday, 17 October 2009 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Ten_Money_Making_Stars_Poll

Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, 17 October 2009 20:43 (fifteen years ago)

john wayne

ice cr?m, Saturday, 17 October 2009 20:45 (fifteen years ago)

Marie Dressler
Mickey Rooney
Joan Crawford

Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, 17 October 2009 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

Clint Eastwood

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 October 2009 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

Charles Chaplin

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 October 2009 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

Would it be Johnny Depp these days?

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 17 October 2009 20:56 (fifteen years ago)

Click the wiki link above and all shall be revealed....

Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, 17 October 2009 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

nicole

surm, Saturday, 17 October 2009 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

Will Smith? Johnny Depp's massive hitters are limited really to PotC franchise, aren't they?

Would Julia Roberts have been an answer to this at one time?

ailsa, Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

yes

surm, Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

oh, have just clicked that link. ah well, least I know I was right about Will Smith.

ailsa, Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

I think the Gish sisters were famous before Chaplin?

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

Marilyn Monroe

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

i'm also interested in people who may have not been the biggest star, but who were mysteriously popular and ubiquitous for a brief period of time and yet really never made a decent film and were never that good, dudes like chris o'donnell and william baldwin. i think josh hartnett is the latest version of this. that's for another thread though.

access flap (omar little), Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:08 (fifteen years ago)

Rob Lowe was kind of an O'Donnell.

Nicolars (Nicole), Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:12 (fifteen years ago)

I was just reminded of how awful a movie St. Elmo's Fire was, so his name came up. I guess just about everyone in that movie falls into that category to one degree or another.

Nicolars (Nicole), Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

fucking love that movie

surm, Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

Can we just pause for a moment and ponder the fact that Marie Dressler was the number-one box-office attraction of 1932 and 1933? Marie Dressler??

http://www.cobourghistory.ca/assets/photos/marie_dressler2.jpg

And who's been to the Marie Dressler museum in Cobourg, Ontario?

Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:18 (fifteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Ten_Money_Making_Stars_Poll

― Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, October 17, 2009 4:43 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

eh no offense not a great metric imo

ice cr?m, Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:19 (fifteen years ago)

No offense but it's the metric.

Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:21 (fifteen years ago)

Stardom isn't just about box office.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:24 (fifteen years ago)

actually it is, pretty much

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:26 (fifteen years ago)

http://static.amctv.com/img/originals/am_cin/juliaroberts/julia_roberts_425x300.jpg

surm, Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:26 (fifteen years ago)

i just felt that was necessary

surm, Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:26 (fifteen years ago)

actually it is, pretty much

You're telling me Marie Dressler was a "bigger star" in 1932 than Jean Harlow or Greta Garbo? Come on.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:32 (fifteen years ago)

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access flap (omar little), Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:33 (fifteen years ago)

lol ridiculous theres a lot of other things that go into making a movie successful besides the star - really think people were flocking to lord of the rings to see elijah wood - to the phantom menace to see whoever the fuck is in that

it does nothing to measure the grip on the public imagination - if tom hanks releases just one movie in 2009 and its some weirdo art house oscar bait that grosse only the 50th most but gets him the oscar is he then the 50th most popular star

ice cr?m, Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

What does moviestar_prospectus.com have to say about this? What was Dressler's VORA?

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:35 (fifteen years ago)

luckily now we can just check tmz hits

ice cr?m, Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

You're telling me Marie Dressler was a "bigger star" in 1932 than Jean Harlow or Greta Garbo?

Yes, she was.

lol ridiculous theres a lot of other things that go into making a movie successful besides the star

Of course. But the thread is about the biggest movie star, not what goes into making a movie successful.

Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

you are incorrect

a perfect urkel (gbx), Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:42 (fifteen years ago)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1SBqFueoJQo/Sd_vAA02wDI/AAAAAAAABCc/_eC8CXp9ZX0/s320/John+Travolta+hottie.jpg

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

brad pitt

ice cr?m, Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

Really? Brad Pitt has at some point been the world's biggest movie star?

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:49 (fifteen years ago)

Norma Talmadge
Colleen Moore

mu-mu (Pashmina), Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:50 (fifteen years ago)

I mean, I'd say his frequent co-star, George Clooney. But Brad Pitt . . .?

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:50 (fifteen years ago)

george!

surm, Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:50 (fifteen years ago)

brad pitt's the world's biggest SEX ICON. different

surm, Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

Clooney and Travolta are v. good actors, too (not just movie stars, e.g., Tom Cruise)

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

Eddie Murphy? Jim Carrey?

ailsa, Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:52 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.merilstreep.com/images/pictures/large/meryl-streep7.jpg

surm, Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:52 (fifteen years ago)

right now if someone has to construct a sentence containing a generic male movie star they are more likely imo to insert brad pitts name than any other

yeah this guy is huge over there he's like the nigerian _________

i go to that place they treat my like im ___________ or something, they love me, seriously

no fuck that im not talking abt jude law or aome shit im talking super famous ____________ famous obama famous

BRAD PITT

ice cr?m, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:00 (fifteen years ago)

"Jude Law is one of our finest actors." - Angry Sean Penn

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:01 (fifteen years ago)

mmm point taken, xp

but his fame is just kind of general, not so much about his movies. right?

surm, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:02 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i mean i didnt intend for this to be a what is a movie star thread - but srsly what is a movie star after all

ice cr?m, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:04 (fifteen years ago)

But isn't that what makes a big movie star, rather than a star of big movies? I think Clooney's more famous for being Clooney rather than any particular film he's been in.

um, xpost

ailsa, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:05 (fifteen years ago)

yeahh i guess

i don't care that much tbh, let's just keep listing pretty people

surm, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:06 (fifteen years ago)

Macauley Culkin
Dudley Moore
Larry "the Cable" Guy
Jackie Chan

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:08 (fifteen years ago)

can two people be the biggest star at the same time - i suspect they can

ice cr?m, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:08 (fifteen years ago)

http://cinemoviehistory.com/user/cimage/GoldieHawn.gif

surm, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:09 (fifteen years ago)

Clark Gable
Shirley Temple

WmC, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:15 (fifteen years ago)

Audrey Hepburn
Julie Andrews?

ailsa, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:16 (fifteen years ago)

audrey is a good call

surm, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:16 (fifteen years ago)

Brad Pitt's era from Interview with a Vampire, Legends of the Fall, Se7en, through fight club and snatch, He seemed to me to be a much bigger star than George Clooney ever was, and in fact possibly the biggest movie star of that era.

Mister Jim, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:16 (fifteen years ago)

good point

lol Legends of the Fall

surm, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:17 (fifteen years ago)

Clooney's most famous for being on ER

Mister Jim, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:17 (fifteen years ago)

and for being fucking gorgeous

surm, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:17 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.leninimports.com/joan_crawford_gallery_1.jpg

Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago)

Clooney's most famous for being impossibly handsome and cool and just generally a suave movie-star-type.

Which reminds me. Cary Grant.

ailsa, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:19 (fifteen years ago)

http://joancrawfordbest.com/63caretakers5.jpg

Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

Eddie Murphy
Mickey Mouse
Bruce Willis
Demi Moore
Jennifer Lopez
Harrison Ford
Steve Martin

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

julia was the biggest right around Erin brokovich

Bobby Wo (max), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:21 (fifteen years ago)

it might be time to watch that movie

surm, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:22 (fifteen years ago)

Jennifer Lopez? Steve Martin? Really?

ailsa, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:23 (fifteen years ago)

Rudolph Valentino

a gift from your mind in the form of the perfect beat (snoball), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:23 (fifteen years ago)

redford
ahnold

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:23 (fifteen years ago)

bogart

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

stewart

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago)

"at some point" has gotta include the run up to Gigli, and Steve Martin, THREE AMIGOS ANYONE?

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago)

I mean, the movie itself no one saw, but EVERYONE talked about it (Gigli, not THREE AMIGOS)

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago)

It was a trending topic for seven days

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.titanic--memorabilia.com/htmlarea/user_images/other_197/Titanic%20-%20Jack%201a.jpg

peter falk's panther burns (schlump), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:26 (fifteen years ago)

I'll chuck in Meg Ryan if we're just going with "a few films that were OK that some people watched" rather than OMG MEGAGLOBALSTARDOM

ailsa, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:26 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, Meg Ryan, for sure, and then Billy Crystal follows.
also, Kevin Costner

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:28 (fifteen years ago)

maybe I'm listing people who were briefly disproportionately featured on supermarket mag covers during my youth.

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:29 (fifteen years ago)

Jerry Lewis and Eddie Murphy have both been named are pretty right, any other primarily comic actors? Richard Pryor? Jim Carrey?

awe (some dude), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:29 (fifteen years ago)

er Jim Carrey was mentioned too, I meant to say Adam Sandler maybe

awe (some dude), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago)

I had somehow forgotten that Kevin Costner ever existed.

ailsa, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago)

ha was coming in to offer up ryan and costner

feed them to the (Linden Ave) lions (will), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago)

Roberto Benigni

Jeff, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:34 (fifteen years ago)

Mae West

a gift from your mind in the form of the perfect beat (snoball), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:34 (fifteen years ago)

Rin Tin Tin

Aimless, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:35 (fifteen years ago)

was Alan Ladd ever as famous as Bogart?

Bacall

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:37 (fifteen years ago)

Tipi Hedren? not sure if she was that massive though

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:38 (fifteen years ago)

No way Steve Martin was -- even for a split-second -- the world's biggest movie star.

The biggest Unfunny Clown Who Stumbled His Way Into Some Movie Roles, maybe.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:38 (fifteen years ago)

SYLVESTER FUCKING STALLONE

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:41 (fifteen years ago)

Arnie? His run of 80's movies puts him in the same league as Cruise.

a gift from your mind in the form of the perfect beat (snoball), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:42 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, he qualifies.

Such a wide gulf between Biggest Movie Star and Best Actor/Actress.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

mabel normand, probably

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

Rudolph Valentino

otfm

Aimless, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

Jimmy Stewart? I feel like he may have been perpetually deprived of this status by Cary Grant.

cervix-a-lot (Pillbox), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:45 (fifteen years ago)

Marlon Brando

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:47 (fifteen years ago)

Theda Bara
Mary Pickford
Douglas Fairbanks

mu-mu (Pashmina), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:48 (fifteen years ago)

Humphrey Bogart

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:51 (fifteen years ago)

oh wait, shit.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:51 (fifteen years ago)

Was gonna say Robert De Niro, but I don't really think he ever quite got there.

Mister Jim, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:52 (fifteen years ago)

matt damon?

access flap (omar little), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

a case could be made for chow yun fat based on hk superstardom and general worldwide appreciation.

access flap (omar little), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:56 (fifteen years ago)

mel gibson

access flap (omar little), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:57 (fifteen years ago)

russell crowe

access flap (omar little), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:57 (fifteen years ago)

Was gonna say Robert De Niro, but I don't really think he ever quite got there.

I was going to say him, too. I think he got there, if you can somehow add some of his critical credibility/acting chops to his popularity and cultural significance. What he always lacked was the "Hot Young Actor" vibe, which is what makes a lot of subpar-to-average actors The World's Biggest Movie Star.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:58 (fifteen years ago)

mostly lol but kind of serious: nicolas cage for the era of the rock, con air, and face/off

access flap (omar little), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:59 (fifteen years ago)

al pacino

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:59 (fifteen years ago)

No way to Nicolas Cage.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 17 October 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago)

Paul Newman
Robert Redford

a gift from your mind in the form of the perfect beat (snoball), Saturday, 17 October 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

jack nicholson
steve mcqueen

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Saturday, 17 October 2009 23:02 (fifteen years ago)

michael j fox

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Saturday, 17 October 2009 23:03 (fifteen years ago)

Surprised she hasn't been mentioned yet, and it's definitely not for her acting, but Angelina Jolie.

ailsa, Saturday, 17 October 2009 23:04 (fifteen years ago)

Leonardo DiCaprio

Jeff, Saturday, 17 October 2009 23:04 (fifteen years ago)

Who is the biggest female movie star right now in terms of box office ratings/earnings? I sort of have it in my head that it's Reese Witherspoon, but that can't be right.

ailsa, Saturday, 17 October 2009 23:07 (fifteen years ago)

flicking through TV channels just now, have just been reminded of the former previous massiveness of Woody Harrelson.

Mike Myers might be an answer to whatever the question was about comic actors?

ailsa, Saturday, 17 October 2009 23:08 (fifteen years ago)

denzel washington

access flap (omar little), Saturday, 17 October 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

macaulay culkin, very briefly.

cervix-a-lot (Pillbox), Saturday, 17 October 2009 23:22 (fifteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure both Abbott & Costello and Bob Hope were near the top in the '40s, w/out consulting wiki.

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 October 2009 00:03 (fifteen years ago)

Curly Sue?

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Sunday, 18 October 2009 00:07 (fifteen years ago)

russell crowe

― access flap (omar little), Saturday, October 17, 2009 6:57 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

to me he's the perfect example of someone that seemingly all of hollywood decided was the biggest movie star in the world but the rest of the world never really cosigned it

awe (some dude), Sunday, 18 October 2009 01:47 (fifteen years ago)

see also, Colin Farrell

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Sunday, 18 October 2009 02:01 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, yeah, that guy. Wasn't he the one who drained all the life and energy out of the Sonny Crocket character?

"I'm a Fiend for Mojitos." I'll never forgive that guy.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 18 October 2009 02:03 (fifteen years ago)

How about Sean Connery?

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Sunday, 18 October 2009 02:06 (fifteen years ago)

Never the biggest in the '60s, I wouldn't think.

Audrey Hepburn

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 October 2009 02:09 (fifteen years ago)

how does having a Superman villain based on you not qualify as biggest movie star in the world?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/Vartoxdcu0.jpg

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Sunday, 18 October 2009 02:13 (fifteen years ago)

Colin Farrell was awesome as Sonny Crockett, come on. It's not like he wrote the line "I'm a fiend for mojitos."

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 18 October 2009 03:39 (fifteen years ago)

re: chow yun fat, I would say Bruce Lee was a bigger "world" star than Chow Yun Fat could ever imagine being.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 18 October 2009 03:40 (fifteen years ago)

lol colin farrell running straight to rehab when miami vice wrapped

ice cr?m, Sunday, 18 October 2009 03:43 (fifteen years ago)

who is the biggest movie star right now

Bobby Wo (max), Sunday, 18 October 2009 03:44 (fifteen years ago)

balloon boy

ice cr?m, Sunday, 18 October 2009 03:44 (fifteen years ago)

Will Smith

well pull down my pants and call me swamp thing (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 October 2009 03:53 (fifteen years ago)

Cannot agree, Matt. That was a terrible, flat, lifeless, emptyheaded performance; the dialogue was bad, but he couldn't even deliver it well. Usually movies make characters larger and more robust, but Farrell's portrayal of Sonny Crocket had none of the depth or complexity that the character had during Season One of Miami Vice's TV run (after that it was a swift decline in quality for the TV series, I'll admit).

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 18 October 2009 04:02 (fifteen years ago)

orson welles prob "biggest" star at some point har har

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 18 October 2009 04:06 (fifteen years ago)

but was he bigger than fatty arbuckle?

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 18 October 2009 05:35 (fifteen years ago)

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hi dere

fiend for doritos (Pillbox), Sunday, 18 October 2009 05:59 (fifteen years ago)

biggest movie star right now is a hard question

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 08:36 (fifteen years ago)

i rly do think meryl always has a fair chance at the title even if it's a different sort of "star"

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 08:37 (fifteen years ago)

couldn't "at some point" mean basically anything? a week? month? My favorite ones to think of are the ones who seemed huge to me as a kid and aren't really thought of much now: Chevy Chase (slight comeback recently, but still...), Val Kilmer, Michael Keaton, Billy Crystal, Richard Gere, Michelle Pfeiffer, Brooke Shields, Uma Thurman, John Cusack, Sylvester Stallone, Dennis Quaid... I could go on, but I am sleepy.

A polar bear you can see in a snowstorm (rockapads), Sunday, 18 October 2009 09:06 (fifteen years ago)

biggest movie star right now is a hard question

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Samuel (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 18 October 2009 12:12 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder how big these all are compared to the most popular Bollywood/asian stars? Is there a way to compare them?

StanM, Sunday, 18 October 2009 13:49 (fifteen years ago)

Tape measure?

Music should never have changed anymore after my mid 80s (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 18 October 2009 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

ohhhh michele pfeiffer GREAT call

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

i rly do think meryl always has a fair chance at the title even if it's a different sort of "star"

Her movies do not top the box office, except when it has nothing to do w/ her (ie, Mamma Mia)

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 October 2009 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

Kramer v. Kramer earned more than 100M, which was a huge Box Office result at the time. And it was No. 1 in its limited opening-weekend (5.5M across 525 theaters).

But I agree she hasn't been a big enough box-office draw to qualify as the "biggest" movie star.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 18 October 2009 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

But Hoffman was the established star in Kramer, it was only Streep's second noticed role! (third if you count her 5 mins in Manhattan)

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 October 2009 17:28 (fifteen years ago)

I'd forgotten about that, but yeah, Hoffman was clearly the Star (at the time).

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 18 October 2009 17:29 (fifteen years ago)

Susan Saint James

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:00 (fifteen years ago)

box office my ass

anyone in their right mind knows meryl streep is the greatest living star of an american actress. fuck millions of dollars.

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:02 (fifteen years ago)

If you're an avid Entertainment Weekly/Access Hollywood devotee, sure.

Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago)

but again her star power has more to do with talent and clout than, i dunno, sex and money

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago)

no, if you're just alive, in america. i'm not saying it's true, but that is the widespread belief

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago)

she's not a star like julia robers once was, but in terms of like CHOPS, she has the star nailed.

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:05 (fifteen years ago)

Snark aside, I suspect Streep has a better chance of being a star now. The public has always seemed wary of her -- who is she? why does she fuck around with accents? Now that she's learned how to "do" comedy and accepting good comedic parts, she's been rewarded with a couple of hits (The Devil Wears Prada was a massive hit, and Julie and Julia a smaller one).

Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:06 (fifteen years ago)

*accepted

Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:06 (fifteen years ago)

Did anyone say Mel Gibson?

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago)

like, when people think "american actress," people think meryl streep. that's just the way it is.

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago)

mel gibson otm

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:08 (fifteen years ago)

yes, Streep is more "money" now that she makes mostly terrible films. And let's not forget the middlebrow shit like Sophie's Choice that made her name as a GREAT ACTRESS (bow head).

A "movie star" is someone who rakes in the bucks. Like Elizabeth Taylor in the '50s and most of the '60s.

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:11 (fifteen years ago)

"Now" that she makes terrible films? Most of her films are unwatchable Oscar crap!

Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:12 (fifteen years ago)

well it's impossible to have an interesting conversation based on 2 different definitions. but at the risk of revisiting a boring conversation, i don't think that's what a movie star is. it can be, but it's not limited to that.

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:13 (fifteen years ago)

ooh challops alfred!

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:13 (fifteen years ago)

Julie and Julia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The French Lieutenant's Woman, Music From the Heart, Postcards From the Edge, Sophie's Choice.

Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:13 (fifteen years ago)

Good films in which Streep has also been good to great: Silkwood, Plenty, A Cry in the Dark, One True Thing, Julie & Julia, ummmmmm I can't think of others.

Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

she's fine in A Cry in the Dark and Ironweed (both big box-office bombs). And very funny in the Albert Brooks movie, and Death Becomes Her.

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

Silkwood is her best film, yeah, as I said re that Onion parody.

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

The Entire Cast of Dick Tracy

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:17 (fifteen years ago)

basically what i'm saying is that it's impossible to argue that streep is not a massive star in terms of popularity, recognition and industry power

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:17 (fifteen years ago)

also will rep for Postcards from the Edge, perhaps her most *likeable* role?

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:17 (fifteen years ago)

she's not "fine" in cry in the dark. she's wonderful in it.

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

death becomes her will forever be wonderful as well

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

and by the way the idea that "one true thing" is a "good film" is kind of funny

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

she does NOT enjoy MASSIVE popularity, compared to someone like your gf Julia. The average middle-aged American man will go to one of her films if his wife drags him.

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

surm i watched death becomes her this week <3

elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

and by the way the idea that "one true thing" is a "good film" is kind of funny

On paper it looks like twaddle, but it's a better than average soaper. William Hurt is excellent playing one of his usual repressed WASPs.

Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

i guess it depends on the crowd you hang out with. i don't hang out with the average middle-aged american man, and from my perspective, and the media i am exposed to, i definitely see her popularity as MASSIVE

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

yes it's a better than average soaper alfred but "good film" might be a stretch

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

lol gayz :)

xp

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

Ha, yeah, for me "good" often means "not as bad as I expected."

Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

Meryl Streep is pretty much the Debra Winger of her generation

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

and WOMEN, morbs

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago)

most of my girlfriends hate julia roberts and love meryl streep

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago)

waaaaht. debra winger never did what meryl has done.

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago)

Meryl Streep is pretty much the Debra Winger of her generation

Debra Winger never managed to be the Debra Winger of her generation, alas.

In defense of gays, they go kicking and screaming to Streep Oscarbait too.

Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago)

Winger in her three Oscar nom performances, The Sheltering Sky, and Rachel Getting Married justifies her reputation -- and justifies her reputation for stupidity in holding out for "better" roles.

Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

but yes i think we can all agree on this
http://www.geocities.com/elizabethtaylor3/elizabeth_taylor.jpg

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:26 (fifteen years ago)

Arnold Schwarzenegger circa 1991?

James Mitchell, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:26 (fifteen years ago)

Streep's film-star career has been about 4x longer than Winger's -- Rachel doesn't count until she does something else.

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

surm i watched death becomes her this week <3

― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:21 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

:D

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

isabella!

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

isabella yelled at me on the phone the other day

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

rossellini or billingham?

slugbuggy, Sunday, 18 October 2009 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

rossy

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

kinda awesome. story?

slugbuggy, Sunday, 18 October 2009 21:13 (fifteen years ago)

ohh it was just a stupid work thing and she was like THIS IS A PRIVATE NUMBER, I DO NOT WANT TO BE CALLED

she was like all upset. i was very polite

surm, Sunday, 18 October 2009 21:14 (fifteen years ago)


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