Unopened Boxsets that I liked the look of from the Pilot: The ILX Television 51 Show Countdown Extravaganza!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So here we go:

51. The Inbetweeners
http://danblythe.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/the-inbetweeners.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvTgvEzpSzQ

Oh shit, I forgot to put in the votes. 11 votes, 1140 points

Let's look at #51 as a practice run and from now on, everything will go swimmingly (I hope).

results! awesome! so this is some British show, I guess?

Yeah, it's basically l0u1s jagg3r: the early years.

Wow. Already I'm surprised. What up, show I've never heard of?

hahaha, it is, except it's funnier than that makes it sound.

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Ok, let's hope this all goes properly from now on-

50. Breaking Bad (7 votes, 1160 points.
http://www.uncrate.com/men/images/2008/03/breaking-bad.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpQoavGLWIo

Ooh, (hopefully) small request: if it's not too much trouble, can you add whose vote was the highest for each show? If that's a hassle, don't worry about it. But I'd be interested.

Ummm... I can add in who gave #1s to each show but I didn't take note of all that other stuff. Maybe if I can be arsed I'll go back after the list is done with highest votes for the top 50.

i predict i will only have seen a full episode of less than half the list

Yeah, it's basically l0u1s jagg3r: the early years.

i have always, always had this at the forefront of my mind seeing clips of this.

fyi all youtube clips are basically the first thing i found unless they were shitty fanmade bullshit or i knew what i was looking for.

and even then some shows have fuck all on youtube so shitty fanmade bullshit does make an appearance or two.

people need to be discussing the shows as they come up, and i would if i'd ever seen more than one episode of either of the first two.

I liked the first season of Breaking Bad, but it was super short because of the writers' strike, and I never got around to watching the second season. So, ummm...I guess you probably don't want to use me for a blurb.

inbetweeners v.funny

Right. The Inbetweeners has its own thread, and is basically knob gags and teenagers to trying to get laid and "your dad's gay" and "I want to shag your mum" gags. It is fucking hilarious. The end.

I got very bored with Breaking Bad after about three episodes.

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The Inbetweeners - a UK comedy that is actually funny.

The Inbetweeners was the best show for simple nob gags of the decade, imo. They kept it simple, no morals or 'ooooooh we are teenagers doing the drugs and the sex and the stuff the daily mail will write about saying we are destroying the youth'. Just good nob gags etc.

lol xpost.

Breaking Bad was the bleakest motherfucking thing on telly this decade, incl. the 4th season of The Wire. I only watched the first season though, so I don't know what the second one is like. The scene where they have to melt a dude's body in acid is especially fucking brutal to watch.

Ailsa/Ahoy hoy OTM.

I figured that from the ads, and what I'd read about it on here, that The Inbetweeners was going to be a teenage comedy about dick jokes and people's dad's being gay, and had no interest. But it's pretty great. That's about all I got, I really must watch more of it.

All of Inbetweeners is on youtube btw, or it was last time I looked.

I think that was when I gave up on it, because I didn't find it brutal, I just found it "oh look, we have Malcolm in the Middle's dad melting a dude in acid" and I thought if this doesn't engage me, it is time to give up.

xposts, no, that's pretty much all you get. There's a decent sense of general bastardy mateyness as well, but it's mostly just dick jokes.

49. State of Play (8 votes, 1170 points.)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51G4DTWRTXL.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqUXs7inXyA

And with that, I'm gonna go eat. I'll post 48 in about half hour.

i very nearly gave up on breaking bad after the third episode with the bathtub incident, but i'm glad i stuck with it. it is certainly bleak. something about that level of poverty/desperation in ostensible lower middle class suburbia is depressing to me and at times it's almost like dancer in the dark with the button pushing/combination of circumstances in which they find themselves.

perhaps seeing people that look and otherwise live like me in those situations is what made it heavy going for me (i'm white btw), but i think saying it's bleaker than season 4 of the wire is pushing it.

whatevs, highly highly recommended.

not seen state of play, but the film was ok

ps. thanks samuel!

I'll stick my neck out and I say I gave the highest placing for both The Inbetweeners and State of Play (both in my top 10)

(I haven't seen the film of State of Play because I liked the TV series so much)

...liked it so much that I don't want to see Russell Crowe and Ben Affleck doing it differently, that is.

film has rachel mcadams which is a deal maker for me

not sure if i'd use the term poverty in describing BB.
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The second series of Breaking Bad is infuckingcredible, one of the most tightly plotted things I've ever seen, and considerably bleaker than the first if you can believe it. Unfortunately I didn't start watching it until after my ballot was cast, so it didn't get a vote from me. Would've been top ten easy.

many xposts

yeah, i guess not, xp

realise this might be wishful thinking, but would love no spoilers of season 2 of bb, which i will be watching over the next month.

God, I hate to think what was at number 52.

52 was a ilx fan favourite, or so i thought. :D

Go on, tell us!

i'll show the full list after #1 has been announced.

good idea, leave some suspense

Oh aye, I never thought, if you turn round and go "52 was The Wire" or whatever, then it'll get all the spluttering out of the way too early.

yay inbetweeners! and i didn't vote for breaking bad (only caught half the first season, keep meaning to catch up on it) or state of play but i'm glad both made it.

how many are you posting today sam?

48. The Venture Bros. (7 votes, 2 #1 votes by J0hn Spa3th and jjjustin, 1180 votes)
http://shillhopelaw.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/venture20bros2.png?w=300&h=283
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p_PQvywLPI The venture bros

Gonna do 10 a day so it finishes on Friday.

Google proofing names of people when they didn't send their ilx screenname obv. Or maybe I just shouldn't give out #1 votes.

Yay, glad Venture Bros made it. I'm not holding out too much hope for my beloved Samurai Jack though.

I've heard enough people singing the praises of The Venture Bros. lately that I started watching from the beginning recently. I have to assume that it gets much better and more compelling as it goes on...

Yeah, it's quite a slow burner. The characters kind of creep into your affections without you realising.

Gonna do 10 a day so it finishes on Friday.

sweet. i'll be internet-less friday onwards for a few days though so i'll miss out on all the righteous anger when Friends inevitably tops the list.

cheers for doing this btw.

I'm not going to post any more #1 names now I think about it. Sorry to the 2 dudes I mentioned.

rewatching the first season recently, I have to say the first few episodes of Venture Bros. are kind of rough, and it really hits its stride toward the end of that season and in the 2nd season.

great to see it here, I'd whine that it's too low but at the same time I'm grateful it's not the surprise at #52

47. Da Ali G Show (12 votes, 1210 points.)
http://www.yidio.com/showimages/da_ali_g_show_186x250.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTKedyQQkZQ

Oh rocks, you didn't use my blurb for State of Play. u_u

This is leaning much more heavily British than I thought it would. Or maybe it's just bottom-heavy with Britishness?

we're just getting the britishes stuff out of the way in the first half of the poll, right? right?

Sorry, here is Leee's State of Play blurb:

Kelly MacDonald doesn't wear a bra, a lot.

Hmm. That sounds like quite the selling point.

Dudes its a 2/3 split - not exactly like we are invading again with more dick joeks.

Huh. Even 2-3 is a bigger split than I expected. Any mild chagrin I might be feeling about some of my choices getting squeezed out is sure to be made up for by discovering good stuff that I've never even heard of before.

It also helps that britishers were at least trying to different things like ali g instead of two and half men.

Other selling points for State of Play[i]: I watched it a month or so ago, and I couldn't help but think that this is how the last season of [i]The Wire should've played -- the same narrative density, the same shorthand dialogue, the same, droll gallows humor used to push against the tedium/inanity found in a given profession, and the same weight of institutional self-interest that individuals run into. Also: the endings for both are kind of stupid.

Well now I'm really intrigued. I just saw Russell Crowe was in the movie and couldn't give a toss but I might actually watch it soon.

I'll guess I should move on to 46...

I* guess

46. Q.I. (11 votes, 1220 votes.)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/content/images/2007/01/25/qi_main_396x222.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZBsx3iVMkk

oh americapaws

and...

45. Party Down (10 votes, 1230 points.)
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/brendan13_photo/buckwheat/donnelly/party-down.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-ElqPW2ZSE

Ali G making it kinda surprising, a very early 00s phenomenon ie not v funny at all now. never did see the film.

Lizzy Caplin 100times WS btw.

Ali G also had unfunny MOVIE SUPERSTARS Borat and Bruno.

pretty happy that an awesome show that aired its first 10 episodes just a few months ago managed to place

Yeah Party Down is great.

oh right that's Party Down, have to check that out

Never heard of it before, enjoyed that clip though.

you should!

Is QI just a chat show or is there more to it?

Basically it is a panel show where comedians try and be interesting. Sometimes its funny, sometimes you want to punch Jimmy Carr/Alan Davies/Jeremy Clarkson/Jo Brand in the cock.

QI is a weird british beast, the panel entertainment show; kind of like hollywood squares or what's my line with no member of the great unwashed trying to win prizes.

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try *to* be

I really should learn how to use the English language properly.

One of my nominees, at last! Party Down is gifted with an awesome ensemble of people who mesh well together, first of all. That seems to be a necessary staple of all solid comedy shows. Secondly, it's one of only a small handful of comedy shows that have successfully pulled off the 'laffs & pathos' formula perfected by the UK Office. Which might just be my ideal comic formula.

QI??? Jesus Christ people.

44. Aqua Teen Hunger Force (10 votes, 1240 points.)
http://theexplosivegeneration.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/Aqua-Teen-Hunger-Force-Poster-C10219194.jpeg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-NY3s14b1Y

Aqua Teen Hunger Force??? Jesus Christ people.

Yeah, as a britisher I don't get aqua teen. as i said on t'other thread, adult swim ruined danger doom and thus i never bothered to give a fuck after.

As a human being, I don't get ATHF. I feel like I've seen enough of it to make a judgment. It's occasionally amusing, but that's gonna happen when you've constructed a show that consists solely of throwing completely random shit at the wall to see what sticks.

Didn't you just describe Family Guy?

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(Says the guy who voted for another Adult Swim show that is probably more universally hated for doing pretty much the same thing.)

Yeah, pretty much like Family Guy without the normal, suburban trappings, I guess. Comedy involves judgment and discrimination!

Love Breaking Bad Seas. 1: The combination of credible situations and sympathy for the parent, where Weeds increasingly had neither, made it scary-funny. I think it sort of lost me with the standoff with the gangster though, which felt more action-movie-like.

I've enjoyed moments of The Venture Bros, but really, Top 50? This is going to be a weird list.

x-post Let's be honest Danger Doom so-so with or without Master Shake cameos etc.

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(Says the guy involved in improv. I'll stop talking now.)

Party Down is the best so far - although Inbetweeners a close second. Both have excellent swearing.

43. The Simpsons (15 votes, 1290 points.)
http://trueslant.com/michaelsalmonowicz/files/2009/10/TheSimpsons.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSvva3ZOlNg

Simpsons making this list is incredibly wrong btw.

As the huuuuugest fan of The Simpsons in the '90s, I agree wholeheartedly.

tbh i'm happy to see it here even if i didn't vote for it, for all the crap it's aired the last 10 years it's also probably given me as many laughs as a lot of the shows i did vote for among the better episodes.

EXACKLY

42/41 is the only tie on the list. Picking 41 above 42 because it has more #1 votes.

Well, in a bit anyway.

I dunno, I cannot think a show that has disappointed me more and made me sit through multiple half hours when I thought "this fucking sucks." Well, except Family Guy but that never used to be the greatest tv ever, so I let it off.

are these the results of some other thread i don't know about or do u really have a bunch of unopened boxsets lying around

Mean-spirited Simpsons is funnier than life-lessons Simpsons. That's not the only criterion for something being good, but I'm just sayin'.

I presume people actually watched the shows they voted for here Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiit! It's the ILX Decade-End TV Poll!!!!!

I just stole the name from... darraghmac I think.

42. Angel (9 votes, 1310 votes.)
http://www.buffyworld.com/graphics/angel_collectors_set_usa_large.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqksKXdOljU

As much as I want to hate Whedon, I am really glad Angel made it. Between the puppet episode and Lorne the gay karoake demon, it did provide many a LOL.

Venture Bros is so great.

A second of my nominees! Huzzah!

Buffy was a better show, but Angel was epic. The larger part of the series hung together as one massive, apocalyptic storyline. Worth watching for Wesley's progression alone.

Puppets? clearly i have no idea what Angel is about.

41. Gilmore Girls (7 votes, 2 1st place votes, 1310 points.)
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/686/gilmoregirls2yh7.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYBupWeVbew

Gilmore Girls was my #1 btw.

Yeah, there was an episode of Angel with evil puppets. It was ridiculously great.

btw my #1 vote for the Venture Brothers was not strategic, I really do think its the best show of the decade

If Gilmore Girls places, can you use this post as a blurb?

i find it admirable that the show is far more concerned with the characters' reactions to or emotions resulting from significant events and how they affects pre-existing relationships more than the events themselves. think about lorelai and max splitting up & rory and jess getting into a car accident, which i'd say are the two most important events of the show (as far as i am, which is near the end of S2). neither of these events are actually shown to us on screen! depicting these would not only be superfluous but run the risk of being insipid - the way lorelai reacts to ending her engagement with max, or the way jess' crash and subsequent town-wide vilification makes rory re-evaluate her feelings for him and relationship with dean is far more interesting to me.

Ż the nader of civilization (k3vin k.), Monday, September 21, 2009 4:27 PM

(from Gilmore Girls' other #1 voter.)

this is great. i'm gonna use this thread as my 'stuff to watch' list for the next few months, as i'm not up to speed on hardly any of it. angel can fuck right off tho.

Kev hitting the nail on the head there. But also, it is wickedly funny and I found myself caring for the characters even more than any show this decade. Only the kids in the Wire came close.

Gilmore Girls is the sort of show that I would only watch if a girl made me watch it, but I would secretly enjoy more than she did.

Gilmore Girls looks bloody awful from that clip.

Ha. I recommended it to a bunch of friends only to be called an emofagwhatever. And then like 6 months later a bunch came back to me gushing about how much they love gilmore girls.

Well, that clip was just because ilx likes yo la tengo and sonic youth.

And so on to my last reveal of the day...

Oh wait, I said I was only going to be doing 51-41 today. You guys can wait.

Gilmore Girls finished way too low. I love it with an almost familial love.

haha damn i noticed your mistake but wasn't gonna say anything :)

And that clip is totally unrepresentative about what makes GG great. The stock goofy townspeople are my least favorite aspect of the show.

Btw...

Only 6 shows didn't place and got a #1 vote.
Only 2 more shows have under 10 votes.
58 shows broke 1000 points.
Only 2 shows outside of the top 51 get 10 or more votes.
26 shows didn't get 1 vote.

Eh fuck it, i'll do 1 more tonight.

Inbetweeners and State of Play at the bottom though...
I get a feeling that this is going to be one of those poll result lists that make more sense when turned on their head.

For what it's worth, I've hooked almost as many Doubting Thomases on Gilmore Girls as I have on Buffy. And I was once a hardcore Doubter towards both. And now they're both among my top five shows of the decade. So there you go.

40. Wonder Showzen (11 votes, 1 first place vote, 1350 points.)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7SWGAMKfTmg/SgoxAbGXtlI/AAAAAAAAAHs/qGG2JeVDIds/s320/245px-wonder_showzen.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLwPXMedIaI

I have to say I unashamedly love #39, but you are gonna have to wait until tomorrow to SB me for it.

Fuck knows what Wonder Showzen is. Youtube-ing it for the purposes of the poll didn't make me any wiser to what the fuck it is either.

OK, so that and ATHF finishing ahead of Venture Bros...yeah, there's the bile, I can feel it coming up.

One 1st place vote for Wonder Showzen. I had a feeling that was me for a second, but I knocked it right down the list in the end.
I think. Can't remember.

I've never actually watched Wonder Showzen, but it never really seemed like my cup of tea. Isn't it just a "dark" and therefore "hilarious" take on children's programming?

(There will be fights on this thread. I can feel it already.)

Your name isn't Mike, so no it wasn't you.

xpost to David. I can send you your ballot back if you like.

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No, it has a lot of jokes. And it's not self-conscious about its darkness, thank god.

Wait, I didn't notice 1 show. 7 shows got #1 votes and didn't place. It didn't change the results, I just skimmed over it when I was looking a minute ago.

I voted for Gilmore Girls, but don't particularly like anything else so far except State of Play. Really don't get the love for Wonder Showzen, which from the disc I watched seemed to be children's programming designed to make kids stupid.

Fuck knows what Wonder Showzen is. Youtube-ing it for the purposes of the poll didn't make me any wiser to what the fuck it is either.

― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Monday, November 2, 2009 3:20 PM

i think mtv keeps clips off youtube or something but it can be torrented easily

Hey, Jouster...are you the Jouster from the AST board? Just curious.

thats a mtv show? for some absurd reason, i thought they had a bit of quality control. or maybe I should stop thinking of them as the network who once made Daria.

gilmore girls was my number 2.

wonder showzen was my number 17.

full wonder showzen eps here: http://www.mtv.com/shows/wonder_showzen/series.jhtml

wonder showzen was a hoot.

Wonder Showzen was my #21! I really did push it down the list. Though, have to say, no other programme has had me on the floor laughing than WS these past ten long years.

Wonder Showzen was delightfully demented, and sometimes outright offensive.

I have tried to watch Xavier, but that shit damn near broke my brain. I gather that it's not all that similar to Wonder Showzen, though.

Angel was hit or miss, but it had one of the best series finales I can think of. Maybe the best.

Gilmore Girls, I always wanted to like, but never quite did.

I know we're not there yet but can I just say I hope Friday Night Lights does respectably in this thing - in a non-anonymous environment I might say I love other cooler stuff more but I'd be lying. I don't know if even The Wire gives as complete a picture of a community as FNL does for Dillon, Texas. Crucifictorious! Riggins Rigs! The Landing Strip! The "Who's your Buddy?" TV ads! The Alamo Freeze!

Well, did you vote for it?

I would have but didn't see this until today - just a spectator on this one.

wonder showzen was maybe my favourite show ever

just fyi

well lets just hope more people like a show about white kids playing a stupid sport. because no-one voted for One Tree Hill

one tree hill is a pile of ass imo

yeah, it looks awful. what does it have to do with anything? I didn't even know it was about white kids playing a stupid sport.

Oh, that was just my intepretation of it. Like darragh and his seinfeld catchphrases.

i've never actually watched an episode.

Wonder Showzen was amazing. the "patience" episode! omg

Wonder Showzen's the best thing on this list so far by a country mile.

Now I'm wishing I voted in this...I was overwhelmed by the options.

The Clarence free speech segment of Wonder Showzen from Season 1 was genius. Most of the stuff involving kids saying "inappropriate" things (oooh, subversive!) got very old very quickly, and then Clarence got old too so I stopped watching.

Fuck knows what Wonder Showzen is. Youtube-ing it for the purposes of the poll didn't make me any wiser to what the fuck it is either.

― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Monday, November 2, 2009 3:20 PM

thats a mtv show? for some absurd reason, i thought they had a bit of quality control. or maybe I should stop thinking of them as the network who once made Daria.

― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 November 2009 20:33 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Wonder Showzen is great.

Wonder Showzen was amazing. the "patience" episode! omg

― because I used to be a nuclear physicist (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, November 2, 2009 9:18 PM (1 hour ago)

That Wonder Shozen clip made my brain hurt. But I am feeling very tired this evening.

oh man it feels like my mad men torrent is never going to download and i will have the spoilerific thread just sitting there, all bookmarked, under this one, making me want to click it. argh.

dito! mine going sooo sloooooow

Can't find one for e12! Tried rapidsharing, but it fobbed me off with an ep of Brothers & Sisters.

http://eztv.it/ep/17180/mad-men-s03e12-hdtv-xvid-hv/

Mad Men is among a slew of shows whose initial episodes weren't enough to reel me in. Although I must obviously take another stab sometime in the future.

Shows I don't watch that'll probably be in the top 10: Mad Men, Battlestar Galactica, According To Jim.

P.S. Since the Britisher eveningtime is the middle of the American workday, I think it's fair to say that I'm going to be getting very little done at my job this week. About which I'm just terribly, terribly concerned.

ha, i also cannot deal with battlestar. i just feel dirty when watching it. it is totally this decades star trek. (this decades star trek was great though as it wasnt a geekfest.)

Deric - yes, I am. Are you on there, too?

Yeah, but just as a Lurky McLurkington for the most part. You do good works, though. Love the TBSOWFMU interview, in particular (would have voted for The Best Show as favorite show of the decade if it were on TV).

There doesn't seem to be a TBSOWFMU thread here. Surprising and disappointing. And thanks!

I think there used to be! I'm sure I remember one. Maybe on the sandbox?

At any rate, I know I've logged more hours listening to the Best Show (since, like, '03 or something) than I have watching any of my favorite television shows. I'm a much bigger stan of TV than I am of radio, but my favorite weekly program is a radio show. What does this say? TRY HARDER, TV!

I love it completely but Best Show has been a bit hit or miss lately. I like Tom's stories about pinball and guys who complain about the price of bananas at Starbucks more than anything else lately. And Larry The perv has gotta give it a rest. Spike's Weirdos Exposed delusion has been pretty fun though.

TBSOWFMU

what is this? Or The Best Show while I am asking.

The Best Show on WFMU

The Best Show on WFMU. A weekly radio program on (obviously) WFMU, a freeform station based in New Jersey. Not TV, but just as enjoyable!

I actually agree with you, Brio, but I still listen religiously.

yeah, I still enjoy it a lot despite my griping.

http://wfmu.org/playlists/BS

what was your best show interview about, jouster?

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The Best Show on WFMU. It's a radio show on (fittingly enough) WFMU in Jersey City, New Jersey and it's a hidden comedy gem. The show itself is a mostly talk/call-in/interview show which has become pretty entertaining in and of itself, but the centerpiece is the calls by Jon Wurster. Over the course of almost a decade now, Tom Scharpling (the host) and Wurster have created this whole world populated with insane characters. Wurster might be the funniest dude alive right now, for my money. Descriptions can't do it justice, though. You just need to experience it.

I interviewed Tom and Jon. Talked about their process, and their history, and a bunch of other things. I was pretty nervous - I know Tom a bit, but had just met Jon, and they're responsible for some of my favorite comedy stuff, so... It's still online on this page, if you want to hear it: http://astradio.libsyn.com/ (pardon the occasional poorly phrased question and awkwardness, like I said, I was nervous).

Looks cool! I'll check it out.

do they have a podcast?

Yes. There's a link on the playlist page Brio posted.

The July 21st show is a great place to start. I just about died listening to it at work the next day and trying to hold in my laughter. Tears, I tell you.

Simpsons making this list is incredibly wrong btw.

Respectively, bite it. I am as big a Simpsons RIP nostalgist as you'll find, but there are like, FIVE episodes that are awesome and warrant affection to the point of voting for the series on another stupid ILX poll.

When you read my preceding post, you should picture me typing in front of a giant gut, thinning hair pulled back in a ponytail, taking advantage of Taco Bell's dollar taco promo while entertaining myself with a Doctor Who marathon.

"oh, loneliness and tacos..."

Leee, please tell me what these five episodes are so that I may watch them. Seriously. I would love to watch some Simpsons episodes that makes my happy in the way they used to.

"that make me happy"

Geez, crack a grammar textbook much?

oops, I forgot to vote in this. So I guess I can't bitch about Breaking Bad being so far down on the list (would have been top 3 for me, so perhaps I could have singlehandedly effected its position?)

JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE!!!

you seem upset

BABF15 Last Tap Dance in Springfield
BABF19 Behind the Laughter
BABF22 HOMR
CABF14 Trilogy of Error
DABF13 I Am Furious Yellow
DABF15 Little Girl in the Big Ten (i.e. the one that got Pynchon onto the show)

Some wires got crossed in my brain -- a bunch of 1998 and 1999 episodes stood out in my mind, but yeah, those six (SIX) are worth tracking down, and BABF22 even has the heart (HEART) of the showe of auld.

what is it about those six eps that make the entire ten years of the rest of it one of the forty best shows of the decade?

They don't, I voted for it in a lifetime-achievement way, but hey I also voted for Sports Night too even though it had ~3 months of episodes in the '00s.

One Tree Hill not placing is a fucking travesty, as anyone would realize after watching this clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzPDEirVTZk

I'm thinking ten a day might be too fast!

hahahahaha, wtf @ that clip.

why is there a dog in a hospital?
why the crazy wires?
why is this dude just about to undertake heart surgery kicking it in the reception?
etc. etc. etc.

One Tree Hill is bonkers. Never mind the heart-eating dog when the heart belongs to a homicidal/suicidal dude who then becomes a LIFE COACH.

Oh, that was just my intepretation of it. Like darragh and his seinfeld catchphrases.

― Samuel (a hoy hoy), 02 November 2009 21:16 (Yesterday) Bookmark

harsh- i've actually watched at least 100 mins of seinfeld in this particular life. i was waiting for a laugh, then i gave up.

What are Britishers just getting into work thinking of 51-40?

I'm thinking Breaking Bad looks like a comedy, just from that youtube clip.

Absolute rubbish. This is turning out to be as bad an idea as I suspected.

I think the Simpsons deserves its place. Of course in the 00s it's been a shadow of its former self but when at its very occasional best it's still sharper than most. Maybe an honourable mention / lifetime achivement award would have been deserved instead? idk.

The Inbetweeners I've seen a single episode of (the "bus wankers" episode) and thought it was absolute toss. That being said, it's enjoyed by some of ilx's finest minds so maybe it deserves a second chance.

QI? Really?

The Ali G Show.... probably deserves its place. Wouldn't watch it now and sendup style TV feels very 90s/Chris Morris but I enjoyed it at the time.

Haven't seen any of the others.

QI? Really?

Yeah, this.

Have seen enough to comment:

Ali G- Someone made the comment about early 00's and not seeming funny now, which is pretty much what I'd go with.

QI- yeah this is consistently funny, if this and HIGNFY are the only two british panel shows that's a result.

Simpsons- still better than most of what's on tv, stop frontin everyone.

Wonder Showzen- I've caught a few of these, and lolled.

Haven't caught enough of to comment, but amn't interested-

Angel
Gilmore Girls

The rest- haven't caught enough of to comment, but would definitely investigate on ILX's recommendation

For what its worth, the "Bus Wankers" episode of the Inbetweeners is the worst of both series. When it's good it's hilarious.

is party down coming to uk tv? is it available on dvd yet?

it should. its only like 10 episodes, ala proper british telly, so it is all high quality and no filler.

For what its worth, the "Bus Wankers" episode of the Inbetweeners is the worst of both series. When it's good it's hilarious.

So I'm told. Unfortunately it's hard for me to imagine that something capable of being quite that terrible could possibly come anywhere close to "hilarious". Like trying to get my head round infinity.

I've got a feeling I voted for QI and I don't even like it.

that's the kind of admission that is going to get you lambasted by someone who's favourite show missed out.

QI = Coldplay? Offensively inoffensive etc.

I too would like to know of standout 00s Simpsons eps. Never really hear talk of particular episodes or moments from the last ten years, just the usual 'just a little airborne/still better than most of what's on tv' vagueness. I'm glad it came in this low.

It's OK, I just checked, I didn't.

is party down coming to uk tv? is it available on dvd yet?

I think it's going to be on five or something. Checkout Sidereel they might still have some links to episodes. Actually I might still have them on my computer at home - I'll check later. It really is very good tv and what deric said upthread about the whole cast meshing together is right. Also it's got Jane Lynch in it.

Jane Lynch left though, only to be replaced by STIFLERS MUM.

and lizzy caplin, who i loved in the (very underrated) The Class

I'm sure she has a real name but you know, she's STIFLERS MUM.

Megan Mullally is coming in next season.

And I was wrong. I was thinking of 'Glee' which is going to be on E4. The Jane Lynch connection confused my brane.

The Class was pretty good but suffered from cast and network shenanigans, and overracting.

And just being a blatent Friends rip off. And being a show in 2008 that still has 'lol gay stereotype' jokes. etc.

when do we get more reveals?

xp - the gay stereotype jokes were made by other gays though so that was OK.

yeah the guy from grange hill's gay couple was excrusiating. still, LIZZY CAPLIN!

when do we get more reveals?

― antastic mr ox (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 11:35 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

Soon. After lunch maybe.

I've just eaten my lunch.

wait, i'm having lunch at 1. be done by 1.30.

sned me the list, actually- i'll look at the next one as soon as i'm done eating.

39. Gillette Soccer Saturday (9 votes, 1360 points.)
http://www.catflapmag.com/football-blog/content/binary/Jeff-Stelling.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZOgBEws1EY

unbelievable!

dancing on the streets of gillette soccer saturday tonight, in your face total britphobe solutions fc

sound

GSS making it totally makes this list worth doing.

but will Final Score place?

Jeff Stelling >>> Chappers or wusshername who does inside sport.

Although,

Garth Crooks >>> Paul Merson or Charlie Nicholas.

Merson's inadequacies bring the lols, Nicholas is a prick, I'd put Crooks in the middle. Have we ever had a pundits thread (probs no need as they get discussed more than football on the football threads)?

Ali G haters are tripping

we have this ITV football coverage: Urge To Kill Rising

used to enjoy Crooks challops but no more

38. Black Books (9 votes, 1440 points.)
http://www.librarything.com/userpics/BlackBooks-big.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4wBLUBa8YI

I see this thread is really generating discussion. Everyone just waiting to moan that [HIGH PLACING SHOW] made it so high? Or the fact that you can't make it a discussion about Radiohead getting you down?

#37 is incoming any minute now.

37. Oz (11 votes, 1530 votes.)
http://blog.newsok.com/television/files/2009/05/oz1.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT3IMsPrNNQ

moaning about everything seems kinda lame, that's all.

but:

black books is a rubbish show that makes rubbish use of the comedic talents of a distinctly unrubbish cast. it's always been a big disappointment to me. rubbish.

first season of black books was great, i thought

Black Books is perhaps Dylan Moran's finest hour.

all seasons of black books were great. as a rule of thumb- if you have a drunken sociopath as your main character, your show will most likely be worth watching (black books, the wire, i'm sure susan kennedy got a bottle of vodka in her purse...)

Love Black Books. Hope the IT Crowd doesn't place higher, it's distinctly inferior.

all seasons of black books were great

cosign. Manny Come Home (ep1 series 3) is an incredible piece of dark and disturbing slapstick.

Manny is one of the all time great put-upon sitcom characters.

I never watched Oz. I guess I should. It's The Wire in prison, right?

It's quite a bit hammier. Good though.

First series of Black Books was great, but it dropped off after that (was that the only series Lineham did?).

Never seen Oz, though I'm aware that it's the kind of thing I should have by now.

Oz is pretty much a prison soap opera, although there are definitely some long-term character interactions that make it more cerebral at times.

also lots of nudity

36. Dexter (12 votes, 1560 points.)
http://tv.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/dexter.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2OEmZFRxvA

I haven't watched much Dexter it the plot seems pretty wtf. Dude becomes a cop AND a serial killer because he hates criminals, and thus has to investigate his own crimes?

always sounding distressingly close to that donald kaufman film in adaptation.

none of my votes have shown up yet, though I'm glad Gilmore Girls placed.

dexter is ridiculously entertaining even though you can always see the plot coming a mile away.

Yeah, I'm kind of annoyed I didn't vote for Dexter, because it's fun (for a cop show about a serial killer).

If I like Breaking Bad would I like Dexter? I've heard them mentioned in the same breath a few times...

I dunno. In Breaking Bad, the characters acknowledge what they are doing is batshit insane and thus there is a- this is totally the wrong word but 'normality' about it. Dexter is treated like oh hei, cop who is also a serial killer, yeah! great! thats such a great tv show idea! like it is a regular thing and not total wtf.

Says the guy who has only watched a few episodes of it, so I could be totally wrong.

They're similar only in that we're rooting for criminal protagonists who struggle with what they do but don't have much of a choice in doing it.

Breaking Bad is much better written and acted imo but Dexter is funnier and while it does occasionally get very dark (esp in the first season), it's never quite as bleak as Breaking Bad can be.

I should give it a go, I do like stuff where you're rooting for the criminal (Patricia Highsmith etc).

Dexter also has this coming-of-age subtext intertwined with the killing/police work.

Oz was one of the best things ever made about prison, so it had that going for it. It was framed by Harold Perrineau in a wheelchair, narrating things almost as spoken-word performance, though that seemed to fit. I tuned out after a few seasons, maybe because its fiction seemed a little too beholden to plots keeping things in a holding pattern, but Oz is often cited as setting the template for The Sopranos and everything that came after in terms of gritty HBO big-budget, cinema-like R-rated TV cable drama. The original HBO movie Against the Wall, about Attica, was a precursor.

Well pleased that GSS made the poll, I thought I'd be the only one voting for it.

35. Friday Night Lights (11 votes, 1 first place vote, 1630 points.)
http://polaris.gseis.ucla.edu/cmediavi/images/fridaynightlights.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYN4jnA8fKs

favourite Linehan joke in Black Books is the fly buzzing around the shop and then the door closing after it exits. and "maybe I'll swing by the bakers" is a favourite quote of mine.

FNL maybe not the best show to reveal while Americans by and large are still caffiene deprived (if i've got my times right). Is it even on Britisher telly?

(And if it was, would any give a toss? American Football is wank.) /getting-a-sb

Think it was on Five or Five US a while back.

that clip is from the film.

ITV2 (or maybe ITV4) plays it sporadically.

oh, my bad! never knew there was a film either.

I guess the ranking for Oz and Dexter is about right. They both do what they're supposed to do and they're both a bit groundbreaking in their own way, but at the end of the day they're just pretty good soap operas geared more towards the testosterone set.

I would rant and start fights about how much I hate Friday Night Lights here but I already made my case on another thread: "BECAUSE I'M A CRIPPLE AND I WANT TO LISTEN TO NIRVANA NOW!" the Friday Night Lights TV series thread

FYI, It's quarter after nine in Chicago, Samuel. Barely even wrapped my lips around my triple-caff latte.

(Note: I am not actually drinking a triple-caff latte.)

American footballing cripples should be listening to that M0unta1n G0ats song, not Nirvana. :P

The rest of the weeks results will come later in the day to accommodate you bloody yanks. Maybe starting at 3 or 4 instead of midday.

but at the end of the day they're just pretty good soap operas geared more towards the testosterone set.

Oz gets progressively campier in later seasons. I only watched it in the past year, and kept wondering whether when it was airing it developed a significant gay audience.

If Friday Night Lights the series is anything like Friday Night Lights the book (a work of journalistic nonfiction, for those not in the know), I would probably like Friday Night Lights. I have no knowledge of or interest in sports for its own sake, but I seem to really like these things that use sports as a backdrop to comment on larger things (e.g. Hoop Dreams is one of my absolute favorite movies).

The rest of the weeks results will come later in the day to accommodate you bloody yanks. Maybe starting at 3 or 4 instead of midday.

can't imagine the merkins pandering to our needs in this manner if one of them had bothered to go to the effort, i say keep it between 9.30 and 5 with a break for lunch about 1 ish imo.

It's the midst of my workday, so it's all the same to me. Anytime is a fine time to chat about telly rather than working.

(it's more to do with the fact that the 'f' key is missing from my pc at home, so when seinfeld comes in that's gonna be an inconvenience)

FNL is great. The performances are excellent across the board, the characters are well drawn and interesting, it's beautifully shot and, once they toned it down after the first five or six episodes, well edited. Plus there's the ever-present whole small-town, post-industrial America depression. The canny Applebee's product placement works because that's the kind of place everyone congregates in places like Dillon (or the town I came from). Season 2 was full of shit storylines, but there were so many great scenes littered throughout that it was still compulsive and, sometimes, moving (wheel out the sports metaphor about the best teams are the ones that win when playing badly). Season 3 was excellent, tight, and respectful for the main characters that were graduating and moving on. Season 4, based on the first episode, is looking pretty good though obviously that remains to be seen (and really for the 2019 poll).

I'm already predicting a surprise win for Community in the 2019 poll. FNL will have to settle for second place.

this is the one i have:

http://media.monstersandcritics.com/articles2/1455546/article_images/yukon.jpg

christmas present from my mom a couple years ago because we used to watch due south together. don't know why i haven't opened it!

34. Jackass (14 votes, 1640 points.)
http://917thebounce.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/jackass.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMJgSuaEOPk

i love that clip so much.

Yeah, I'm sure FNL gets better after the first few episodes, most shows do. I just couldn't stomach it and gave up halfway through ep 3. I would probably enjoy the book, and can relate to the overall vibe a fair amount (I went to high school in the sticks, and in the fall my week revolved around the Friday night football game, even if it was just because I was a school band geek), but the combination of the shaky handheld camera work, the brisk editing that made everything feel like a montage, and the constant grand pronouncements about "THIS TOWN" and "FOOTBALL" how much "THIS TOWN CARES ABOUT FOOTBALL" with barely any interesting details or jargon or humorous humanizing touches just made it feel like a horrible pompous drag. (xpost)

ok, jackass. that's about right where i thought it'd be.

Okay, I'm pretty baffled by about half of the results on this poll so far. So...good job at upending my expectations, ILX...?

I mean, I saw and laughed uproariously at The Jackass Movie, but I would never put it in a best of anything list.

you didn't think britisher comedies, faux important american dramas and jackass would make it?

No TV show, incl. Gillette Soccer Saturday and the annual Royal Rumbles, was as fun as Jackass when it was originally on this decade, imo.

psyched to see if dirty sanchez beats it now

well us britishers are doing pretty well so far... dunno if this poll needs welsh testicles though.

gonna resist aaron ramsey joke tbh

33. Project Runway (15 votes, 1670 points.)
http://burslifechangingblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/project-runway.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUyDrYfIzRs

can't believe madtv made the list

I mean, I saw and laughed uproariously at The Jackass Movie, but I would never put it in a best of anything list.
― I HEART CREEPY MENS (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, November 3, 2009 9:35 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Jackass Number Two is one of my top movies of the last decade.

Us Americans were too busy eatin' Big Macs and denying the efficacy of vaccines to vote in some freedom-hatin' TV poll.

I'm beginning to realize that not everyone is as enamoured with scripted comedy and long-form narrative as I am.

still 32 shows to go d.

32. Family Guy (15 votes, 1735 points.)
http://style.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/family-guy-cast-poster-c11790610.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydVp-2B8qlw

I guess the ranking for Oz and Dexter is about right. They both do what they're supposed to do and they're both a bit groundbreaking in their own way, but at the end of the day they're just pretty good soap operas geared more towards the testosterone set.

Deric OTM

yeah i mean...this list is definitely going to be dominated by scripted shows, especially compared to how much reality programming dominated TV ratings throughout the decade

I;m putting my money on Lost being #1.

family guy is again placed about right where i expected, but project runway is my first real wtf so far.

WTF people.

Oh, Family Guy is a better show than Gilmore Girls? That explains why everyone at work suddenly has a goatee today.

as in it should have been higher? xpost

tons of people like Project Runway, many of them on this board (I can take it or leave it personally, but I'm not surprised at all to see it here)

Project Runway is one of the only reality shows I'll rep for, even though I haven't watched it much. Basically, I can get behind a show featuring people with talent trying to outdo one another rather than a bunch of unemployable douchebags trying to outdouche one another.

I prefer Top Chef to Project Runway, but I'm guessing it won't place. As far as other reality shows, I hope (the UK) Big Brother places. Series 5 NEVA 4GET! How much play does the Amazing Race get on ILX?

I'm beginning to realize that not everyone is as enamoured with scripted comedy and long-form narrative as I am.

My disdain for scripted comedy around here is legendary in my own head.

Given the vocal ILX following, I imagine Top Chef will do better than Runway. Also Top Chef is riding on its best season in years right now.

my predictions for reality shows in the nominations thread were American Idol, Survivor, Big Brother, Jackass and Top Model -- totally forgot about Project Runway or i woulda said that too

not so sure about Survivor now, though, and even though lots of people here watch Idol I'm not sure how many of them would vote for it as excellent television (though i did)

Jackass always a mixed bag - loved the stunts and pranks on other members of the team, hated the 'duping strangers' stuff mostly.

ok, the last for today...

Is Britishers voting for GSS the equivalent of Americans voting for, say, Monday Night Football on ESPN? Cause that's just lame.

31. House M.D. (16 votes, 1860 points.)
http://holmes.spontaneousderivation.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/house-md.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T0lT8gJFO0

Housey looking so earnest there.

GSS is way more than just a sports show. It's having people who no longer have proper brain function and thus are hilarious be on the telly all saturday covering the thing we love. It is as wildly unpredictable and lovable as the game itself (ok maybe that is overselling it.)

1) Stelling
2) lots of numbers and stats on screen updating live

everything else about it sucks tbh but those two reasons are more than enough justification

as in it should have been higher? xpost

― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), 03 November 2009 16:06

emphatically not.

GSS is essentially an improv comedy show starring senile/alcohol addled soccer clebrities

Ok, the top 30:

Only 2 more shows with less than 2000points.
Only 12 more without at least a #1 vote.
Only 10 more who got less than 20 votes.

Anyone wanna make predictions?

lots of rubbish i didn't vote for rhubarb rhubarb etc.

it's going swimmingly so far, with the observation that i thought there'd be more interaction on the thread.

can i suggest spacing them out on an hourly basis? maybe it's just me being at work but it seems like two or three get posted at once and some aren't getting the consideration deserved (ie family guy is hilarious, you jerks)

So...only three of my nominees represented thus far, and none in this last batch of ten. I'm a little surprised that 22 of my picks are gonna end up in the top 30, but I guess I must just have good taste, eh? Eh?

still pretty sure that my no 1 will win this.

(Let me just go ahead and predict and say that it's an absolute travesty that Tim And Eric Awesome Show Great Job! isn't going to make the top 50. Bleh.)

Pretty sure that my number 1 will win or at least end up in the top 3.

Gilmore Girls finished way too low. I love it with an almost familial love.

― I HEART CREEPY MENS (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, November 2, 2009 2:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah, I didn't vote for it, even though I probably should've. I think it was because I only watched it sporadically.

was there a lifespan period for when the shows had to be on the air?

I'll try to space it out more tomorrow.

was morbs allowed to vote for gunsmoke?

Were any new episodes of Roobarb and Custard broadcast in the '00s?

Deric- remember you changed your #1 so which show do you mean? Or are you just being coy?

bnw- umm, at least an episode had to be originally broadcast during the decade, if thats what you mean.

oh ok

Black Books is perhaps Dylan Moran's finest hour.

Nah, that was How Do You Want Me? - which won't be featuring in these results.

samuel, that's a piddling complaint- sterling work on putting this together, and i hope the warm glow of achievement you feel will make up for the crushing disappointment of jack wilshere's move to wigan in the coming years.

dylan moran standup >>>>>>>> dylan moran acting

was there a lifespan period for when the shows had to be on the air?

― bnw, Tuesday, November 3, 2009 11:29 AM (56 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I think the only requirement was any first run episodes at all airing at some point from 2000 to 2009. There are a few miniseries, quickly cancelled and/or really recent shows with just a handful of episodes that I think will do well or already have placed.

yeah my #1 definitely fits into that category

dylan moran standup >>>>>>>> dylan moran acting

Really? There doesn't seem to be a great deal of difference between the two, tbh.

How high will Freaks and Geeks be?

was morbs allowed to vote for gunsmoke?

― bnw, Tuesday, November 3, 2009 10:30 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ha. Thank you for that.

And I mean my new and correct #1, Samuel. I was less sure about its ultimate victory until I saw how the results seem to be weighed thus far. Well, I guess the results have actually been completely batshit and all over the place thus far*, so #1 could be Man Vs. Wild, for all I know.

(* I think this is a good thing. It's much more interesting this way.)

the bottom half of a poll's results is pretty much always guaranteed to be more batshit and all over the place than the top half

dylan moran standup >>>>>>>> dylan moran acting

Really? There doesn't seem to be a great deal of difference between the two, tbh.

― DavidM, 03 November 2009 16:35 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

that's fair, but not too many good standup routines fit brilliantly into a laboured 30 mins of sitcom.

xp- probably because nobody's that invested in what finished in the 50-25 bracket?

re House bloopers - is Hugh Laurie actually American now?

The list so far for people who cannot be bothered to open the whole page:

51. The Inbetweeners (11 votes, 1140 points.)
50. Breaking Bad (7 votes, 1160 points.)
49. State of Play (8 votes, 1170 points.)
48. The Venture Bros (7 votes, 2 #1 votes, 1180 points.)
47. Da Ali G Show (12 votes, 1210 points.)
46. Q.I. (11 votes, 1220 points.)
45. Party Down (10 votes, 1230 points.)
44. Aqua Teen Hunger Force (10 votes, 1240 points.)
43. The Simpsons (15 votes, 1290 points.)
42. Angel (9 votes, 1310 points.)
41. Gilmore Girls (7 votes, 2 #1 votes, 1310 points.)
40. Wonder Showzen (11 votes, 1 #1 vote, 1350 points.)
39. Gillette Soccer Saturday (9 votes, 1360 points.)
38. Black Books (9 votes, 1440 points.)
37. Oz (11 votes, 1530 points.)
36. Dexter (12 votes, 1560 points.)
35. Friday Night Lights (11 votes, 1 #1 vote, 1630 points.)
34. Jackass (14 votes, 1640 points.)
33. Project Runway (15 votes, 1670 points.)
32. Family Guy (15 votes, 1735 points.)
31. House M.D. (16 votes, 1860 points.)

How high will Freaks and Geeks be?

― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 16:37 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

I could tell you but that would give away the game. :D

Interesting. Kind of tells me a bunch of people felt The Simpsons just deserved to be on the list, but in low rankings, more so than the others which didn't get as many votes.

The list so far for people who cannot be bothered to open the whole page:

i think it's useful to do after every ten anyway.

important question-

will boosh place above conchords? doubt it.

i hope not

though I didn't vote for conchords so I didn't help

yeah i think if ilx existed in 99 to do something similar, the simpsons would have won it hands down. but because there is no such poll, people feeling bad if the simpsons isn't recognised as some sort of goat shizz.

well, in my mind i just figure Simpsons would be at or very near the top of my ballot (and many others') in a '90s poll, whether or not we ever do one, and felt no need to put it on my ballot for this one.

I don't think we ever will. Maybe an ALL TIME TELLY POLL but not a 90s one. I certainly wouldn't, just because of seeing seinfeld come top would make me saaaaaaaaaaaaad. :)

The Simpsons would probably rank at about #3 or 4 on my '90s ballot (The Larry Sanders Show is #1 with a big-ass bullet). But the important part is that it would rank highly, and also that it would be present on my ballot at all.

tbh I think I would struggle to even list 25 shows I considered great in the 90s - this decade, not at all a problem

i think my list would just be larry sanders, twin peaks, simpsons and a bunch of nickelodeon shows. oh and frasier/cheers/friends.

Loadsa good britcom in the 90s.

still pretty sure that my no 1 will win this.

― antastic mr ox (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 16:25 (44 minutes ago) Bookmark

I can state that at least 1 non-fiction show makes the top 10 and possibly wins it, possibly doesn't.

Show I discovered after voting that I really like and wish I threw some points- Being Erica.

Kind of tells me a bunch of people felt The Simpsons just deserved to be on the list, but in low rankings, more so than the others which didn't get as many votes.

― Nhex, den 3 november 2009 17:43 (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that's more or less how i felt. it's on like five times a day, hard to keep track of what's old, new, good or bad. might as well put it on there.

xxp American Idol?

Simpsons got an average vote of 86 points from each voter, so people must have been putting it 16th-17th in their lists (compare it with Angel which is next on the list and had 145 votes on average). So, yeah, it must have been getting votes from people who had just run out of other stuff to vote for.

top ten predictions, anybody? sopranos & the wire for sure...maybe the office UK? but what's the non-fiction show? must be planet earth, right?

Nah, The Soup is taking home the cup!

You're probably right about Planet Earth. I can deal with that reality show taking a top slot. You can't beat Earth.

wd love it to be The Power of Nightmares, but thinking fat chance on that.

no-one willing to do an actual top ten prediction then?

I'd take a stab if it was just Brits voting.

Okay, I'll bite. Not necessarily in order (and not necessarily reflective of my own top 10):

UK Office
The Wire
The Sopranos
Deadwood
Planet Earth
Arrested Development
30 Rock
Peep Show
Lost

...and the 10th will probably be either Buffy or Six Feet Under. More likely Six Feet Under.

I;m putting my money on Lost being #1. - I'll take your bet. The Wire has got this, right?

I'm sure I'm at least half wrong.

can't see The Wire losing this if Sopranos v Wire poll is any indication.

Hoping Mad Men will encroach on the top 10.

I would like Lost to place pretty high, but definitely not in the top 5. Even the stans know there was a lot of awful stuff in the second and third seasons, and nobody seems to like at least 50% of the main characters.

I think Mad Men has a shot at the top 10.

Also are 30 Rock stans plentiful or is that thread just the same 6 people going on and on.

Good question. This whole poll is making me feel like Liz Lemon in Stone Mountain, GA. My opinions are apparently not shared with the rest of the world.

I'm hoping that the dreck like Jackass (the sole virtue of which is that it is not CKY) and the adult swim stuff is mostly gone, and we can get down to the seriously awesome shit.

also, is there a consensus on Skins? US TV has pwned UK TV this decade.

The consensus on Skins is that it's pretty good.

shows not mentioned in the last few posts that I expect to see in the top 30 and possibly the top 10: The West Wing, The Daily Show, Futurama, Chappelle's Show, How I Met Your Mother, Freaks & Geeks, Curb Your Enthusiasm possibly also Top Chef, Top Model, Veronic Mars, It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia, The Colbert Report, Eastbound & Down, Firefly

and Galactica, unless the last season drained all the goodwill away.

oh, meant to say that too.

I'm already getting the feeling that some highly worthy stuff got pushed out of the top 50 altogether. You can expect the fur to really fly once that list is posted.

I think Damages could pop up too.

Curb is another that I don't watch and had forgotten about and that will probably rate highly, yes.

SNL is number 1, right? Particularly for the Fallon years?

and The Shield, maybe?

If Angel places and Buffy doesn't, something went well wrong. Unless everybody who chose it put it lower down because it's best years were behind it when the decade started.

Yeah, I'm kinda wondering how Buffy will do. The decade straddling did it no favors, I'm sure. I think season 5 alone was enough to win it a high placing, but that's probably just me.

I think West Wing might not chart, despite me number-one-ing it, purely because I think I'm the only major West Wing stan doing the voting. I hope to be proved wrong. Depending on number of Britishers voting, would like to hope Being Human and Doctor Who make it in.

Of course, I also rate season 6 quite highly, even though I will fully admit that it's probably the most excruciating season of a quality television series ever produced. That pervasive air of misery is hard as hell to sit through, but it's High Fucking Art, I tell you.

SNL is number 1, right? Particularly for the Fallon years?

― I HEART CREEPY MENS (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, November 3, 2009 1:20 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

obviously you're joking but I think SNL deserves to be on the list, more than the Simpsons anyway, for its accomplishments in this decade (Tina Fey-era update, digital shorts, Kristen Wiig, the later years of Will Ferrell and Tracy Morgan, etc.)

DependingBecause of the number of Britishers internet nerds voting, would like to hope definitely know Being Human and Doctor Who makes it in.

xpost. agree re: season 6 of Buffy. Lots of greatness in seasons 4-6, but I wonder if everyone else is as burned out on it as I am.

some of steve coogan's shows should be up there too - if the multiple shows didn't split the vote

The top 3 got over 40 votes if that helps you guys speculating.

40 votes *each*, obviously.

Wire, Sopranos and Lost then.

wow, out of 72 voters? kinda cool to know there's going to be such a strong consensus deciding the big winners (xpost)

By the way, people have not mentioned [A CERTAIN SHOW] and [ANOTHER SHOW] that I thought would be big names, at least in speculation. Seems weird that [ONE OF THESE SHOWS] was kind of forgotten about.

Heroes?

24?

24?

xpost!

24 was number 24 on my list. That's my idea of wit.

Ha

Yo Gabba Gabba & The Mclaughlin Group?

I had prepared for Family Guy inevitably being on the list, so I am pleased that it is as low as it is and not polluting the upper half of this fine poll.

South Park? The Shield? Friends?

I would expect 'The Thick of It' to make the top 20 and wouldn't be surprised it if was higher than 'The Office (UK)'.

Masterchef?

oh someone mentioned The Shield, nvm (xpost)

I missed a trick there, I think it was 23 on mine (checked, oh, OK, it was 22 on mine).

Is Spaced another omission from speculation, or is it just me that gives a shit?

Um, first bit about 24, obv.

Well certainly some these shows made it and some didn't. Maybe.

i only got into The Thick Of It after voting :(

Ditto me and The Office US.

MORE POLL FACTZ:

The highest show not to get any #1 votes was 12.

I'm surprised Party Down made the list. Does this mean that the Lizzy Caplan nudity in True Blood might have thrust it onto the list somewhere?

Lizzy Caplan gets naked in True Blood? I may have to actually watch it.

/crepe

I voted for True Blood, but I dunno, can't really picture it making the top 30. But then, I'm quickly becoming pessimistic about the prospect of a lot of shows I voted for (Home Movies, Pushing Daisies, Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends) making the list at all.

Home Movies almost made it onto my 25, but I voted for those other two! Then again I'm looking at my list again and realize about half of the cartoons and the one anime show I voted for probably aren't going to make this list at all. SURPRISE ME POLL VOTERS!

obviously you're joking but I think SNL deserves to be on the list

I kind of agree. Don't get me wrong: I love SNL, and I probably watch old SNL reruns more than anything else on my list (and read and reread anything about it that I can get my hands on), but I think I watch and enjoy it for completely different reasons than why I watch most of this other stuff. I'm kinda more fascinated with it as a performance space and a cultural institution, if that makes sense? Plus, it's just incredibly hit and miss even on its best weeks.

"hit or miss", obvs.

South Park will probably surprise us and rank fairly high.

"How much play does the Amazing Race get on ILX?"

it used to get play! we were a real team! *sniff* then everyone went away...

(seriously, that was one of my fave ilx group luv threads. but then the show proceeded to keep going for another 20 years and nobody wanted to follow it with the old cheer. understandable. i still watch on and off. i voted for it in the poll out of old luv for the show.)

Wait, there were ILXers on The Amazing Race? When? Is it on youtube etc.?

I still watch Amazing Race all the time. Secret shame.

"How high will Freaks and Geeks be?"

seeing as how ilx is about 50% freak and 50% geek, i'll bet it's top five for sure.

yes, there were many ilxors on the amazing race. NO, i meant we all used to watch it as a team! it was like a team sport thread. or any t.v. show thread.

I'm kinda more fascinated with it as a performance space and a cultural institution, if that makes sense? Plus, it's just incredibly hit and miss even on its best weeks.

^^this

yeah...i voted for SNL for the same reason i voted for American Idol, it's just kind of there and has brought me hours and hours of entertainment in the past 10 years, even if watching a whole season end to end on DVD would be a horrible slog.

i'm glad it placed but gilmore girls at 41 is mad disappointing :(

Seriously. I think a lot of people are under the mistaken impression that GG is just another insipid WB middle class white people drama. When in fact it is a top-notch and highly compelling middle class white people drama.

To any of you who balk at Gilmore Girls: just rent the first couple of discs of the first season from Netflix or whatever. If you like television drama, you will probably get hooked very quickly.

can confirm that i was mocked for diggin it but once i spread the news people were enamoured. don't know why this didn't make my top 25. :( really should have.

xpost

(P.S. This is my GG story exactly, and that of several people who I sucked into the web.)

gilmore girls is ok, i'd catch it once in a while. but it's also kinda dragged down by the later seasons. i'd maybe consider it top 50 or 75 of the decade.

It's probably worth noting, too, that I've been without cable or decent television reception (or converter) for most of the decade. The vast majority of my shows were either gobbled up in huge chunks via DVD or (ahem) viewed via the internet. This probably makes my viewing experience for some of these shows (i.e. Gilmore Girls, which I watched the first 5 seasons of in one steady stream thanks to Netflix) quite different from most people.

dunno about Gilmore Girls but i wish i had watched all of Veronica Mars before i became completely disenfranchised with US high-school based shows FOREVER

oh man, but that show's like on a completely different level from... well, every other high school based-show ever

w/the exception of Buffy, of course

and FNL. and Freaks and Geeks.

i don't mean in terms of quality only, but the whole film noir-in-high school gimmick was fantastically executed (and before you mention the great Brick, that was totally different and came out a year later besides)

i forgot to say also: lol @ "highly compelling middle class white people drama"

i say this having watched a-many of those

came to Gilmore Girls too late too - would've liked it more back when i used to think that show Ed was the shit (also Scrubs). crushed on Lauren Graham anyway.

As much as I love a bunch of shows based around cute girls going to high school, I am really fucking glad US TV is taking a break from the format. (For this I am ignoring Gossip Girl's existence.)

lol Ed.

Oh, thank you for reminding me, bluski: NO SCRUBS PLACING ANYWHERE IN THIS TOP 50 SHOWS LIST, PLEASE. THANK YOU!

Aw man. Ed was eligible. I didn't even think about it. Not seen it since it first aired, so it might actually be really shit. Loved the first season at the time.

haha, i totally forgot about Scrubs. i'd be lying though if i didn't say i enjoyed the first few seasons of the show greatly

yeah Ed was a decent show for a minute. I would probably like Gilmore Girls if I were exposed to it enough, but I have an irrational dislike of that Lauren Graham lady and would rather avoid anything with her in it.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41HRSQPW2BL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

If it wasn't already so overcrowded I would probably add Gilmore Girls to my Lovefilm queue. It can wiat, I suppose

wait

but I have an irrational dislike of that Lauren Graham lady

Can someone translate this sentence for me? It looks like English at first blush, but it isn't making a lick of sense to me...

yeah al what don't you like about her?

i dunno, she seems annoying and/or possibly reminds me of annoying people i have known IRL

Graham, an Irish American, was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, the daughter of Donna Grant, a fashion buyer, and Lawrence Graham, a candy industry lobbyist[1] who was the former President for the chocolate and confection industry association. Her parents divorced when she was five, prompting Graham and her father to move to the Washington, D.C. area, where he became a congressional staffer. Graham traveled extensively with her father while growing up.

Glad she didn't end up looking like her best friend Sukie in the show. Could have quite easily happened with the candy family.

like anytime she popped up on NewsRadio or anything else in the 90s she just got on my nerves (xpost)

it's kind of like how i will probably never ever watch the US Office because I think Rainn Wilson is a big annoying vortex of unfunny

welp count me as yet another ilxor that's stoked that 'party down' is on here!

tho isn't lizzy caplan leaving the show? i think she's going to be replaced by mullally. also read somewhere that jane lynch is coming back for season 2

no Jane Lynch is the one that's leaving and being replaced by Mullaly, AFAIK the rest of the cast is staying for s2

xxpost

Dwight is easily my least favorite character on the US Office. Easily and by far.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b149989_kristen_bell_jane_lynch_will_return.html

totally thought jane lynch was locked into Glee

so i guess lynch is only in the season finale? whoever let this happen fucked up big time imo

and i don't know if this is a ***SPOILER*** or not but i was just assuming that casey quitting the company to pursue that acting job meant no more caplan

I forgot about that. They better replace her with proper WS material. Or Mac from Veronica Mars would be cool.

lots of shows have season-enders that make it seem like the character is on their way out, but it's usually safe to assume they're not unless it's already been anounced that the actor was fired or on their way to other projects

like A character, i meant to say

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^ This. There was no real indication that Kaplan was actually on the way out.

Also, re: "proper WS material", I'm simultaneously squicked, laughing, and nodding in agreement.

TS: Lauren Graham on Gilmore Girls vs. Lizzy Kaplan on Party Down. It's a toughie.

One was in Cloverfield, the other was in the Pacifier. Caplin, no question.

ha yes apparently i am gullible. nice to hear she's still there regardless!

oh wait, on their each respective shows. Hmmm.

Yes, on their shows. That, like, devestatingly pretty in a totally down-to-earth way, sardonic & smart & funny brunette archetype brings me to my effing knees, dood.

totally with you there, mayne.

although grown up alexis bledel >>> lauren graham.

i mean look at these fucking eyes

http://21.media.tumblr.com/3klRSmW2ap5u7eq5OkLJrbdFo1_400.jpg

more like alexis BLADOW

lest we forget: bad santa

Fact: Alexis Bledel is 100% Latina. English is her second language. WTF, right?

re: gilmore girls and middle-class
Don't all the main characters live in mansions, and fall from grace means operating an upscale bed and breakfast? And the scummiest degenerate musician character is very affable and clean Sebastian Bach?!

One of the main characters is a dirty farmer. But yes, some main characters live in mansions.

Yeah, Lauren Graham's character left the cozy comforts of her upper class family when she got preggers, but she ultimately did all right for herself, really. I wish I had her effing house.

The show really does deal with a lot of class issues, though. It's pretty endemic to the formula.

I mean, part of the plot is that the grandparents are back in the Girls' lives because Lauren Graham had to borrow money from them for Alexis Bledel's private schooling.

(I would use the character names but I don't want to confuse anyone.)

yeah the class issues are probably the most interesting aspect of the show after the actual relationships

and that alexis bledel picture @_________@

Dwight is easily my least favorite character on the US Office. Easily and by far.

I like Rainn/Dwight & I am hard-pressed to find a weak link in the entire ensemble, really, but the collective awesomeness of the group should make it easy to overlook any shortcomings you find in a particular actor/character.

i don't know what that face means

could post pictures of rory gilmore until my eyes fall out

http://www.celebspin.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/alexis-bledel.jpg

I dislike Dwight mostly because I don't feel like he belongs on the show. His wacky existence often denies the reality that the show tries to establish. A lot of the other characters push it, but never quite as far as Dwight. I mean, cutting the face off of a CPR dummy and wearing it? And then you expect me to legitimately care about the bumps in Jim and Pam's relationship?

Like I've said above, I do like and continue to watch the US Office, but I could probably write a dissertation about its frequent wrongfootedness. That shit needs to establish a freakin' tone already and commit to it.

me either actually, i think it's a step up from O____O

xp

http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/alexis-bledel/alexis-bledel-20071113-337921.jpg

ok now i stop.

Like I've said above, I do like and continue to watch the US Office, but I could probably write a dissertation about its frequent wrongfootedness. That shit needs to establish a freakin' tone already and commit to it.

^ cosign

Fact: Alexis Bledel is 100% Latina. English is her second language. WTF, right?

― I HEART CREEPY MENS (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, November 3, 2009 3:17 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I thought Dwight was your least favorite character on The Office.

Ha. Look, I don't hate the character, I just don't like the character on the show. Kenneth is one of my favorite characters on 30 Rock, but I'd hate his presence if he were on The Office.

Totally awkward Gilmore Girls clip, but hilarious that they came up with a cold open to be all, "NEW XTC ALBUM JUST DROPPED WOOOO!":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QkcuJgKAqU

is that the first episode? i thought it opened with crepey guys making on mother/daughter combo in the diner.

only say that because rory surely starts school in the first episode? or is that the second? wow, i am a fanboy who should go to sleep.

It's the second. The first episode deals with Lorelai trying to scrape together the tuition before Rory starts at Chilton.

The first episode was also all about introducing the grandparents, Rory meeting Dean at her old school and briefly waffling about Chilton, etc.

I only remember all of this because I rewatched these episodes recently, BTW.

It's kind of interesting in that most of the (first season) main characters of the show were introduced in two waves. Like they recognized that there were too many of them to give them all a fitting intro in the first ep. It was a good call.

How bad is the public school alternative?

not that bad tbh - rory is really smart and not challenged by her old school. plus she'd dreamed of harvard since she was like 4 and saw chilton as a better vehicle for that

It's kind of interesting in that most of the (first season) main characters of the show were introduced in two waves. Like they recognized that there were too many of them to give them all a fitting intro in the first ep. It was a good call.

― I HEART CREEPY MENS (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, November 3, 2009 5:37 PM (9 minutes ago)

one thing i'm always amazed by is when i look back at recaps of the first episodes...it's like, whoa, we met dean and the grandparents all in the first episode??? seems like it was several episodes before we met all them

xxpost

Ha ha. Not all that bad, actually, on the face of it. I mean, they live in this idyllic little New England town, so of course there's no real poverty or overt social strife. The reality of the show is definitely in a sealed-off little bubble away from the rest of the world. No one is going to mistake Gilmore Girls for The Wire. The conflict on GG is almost entirely internal and/or interpersonal.

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Yeah, the majority of the characters that wind up sticking around throughout the series are introduced in those first two episodes. The only real exception being Rory's dad, maybe? Kurt shows up in episode 1 as a different character, but I'll count it.

Does anyone else think the show improved for the last season after they got rid of the creators and had other people come in and write? Because it seemed to me Season 6 just went nowhere while being pretty awful. Then whoever came in to right the ship for Season 7 did a great job. I'd be interested to know how the creator, Amy Sherman-Palladino, would have ended it though.

Well, I didn't like Rory's dad as a character, so season 7 was hard going at times considering it all revolved around him being the rong choice for Lorelei. Had some great episodes though, like when Lane has the twins, the grandads heart attack and the last episode.

"No one is going to mistake Gilmore Girls for The Wire."

Rory should marry Stringer Bell. The season writes itself!

Turns out Emily Gilmore and the DAR are running the crack game in West Baltimore, Stringer is just the face of the operation.

jess from gilmore girls is like my dream date really

ws+kiw

and u no wouldn't worry abt it ruining r friendship for 1 2nd

plus he went on to get a bunch of superpowers, which is always a plus.

eww at double plus.

that episode where rory and paris are having a study thing and jess shows up and they just sit around talking books and shooting the breeze and eating

modelling ur teen heartthrob on kerouac is a key to my <3

i didn't vote for GG but realize now that's only because it's such an early 00 show i don't remember much about it. enjoyed it quite a bit when it first aired.

tho i don't think it had much ws quality, apart from maybe paris in an episode or two

0_0 at that apple venus 2 stuff!

Gilmore girls used XTC at least five times (if you count The Three Wise Men as XTC), but that's gotta be the weirdest.

Well, I didn't like Rory's dad as a character

SB

jess from gilmore girls is like my dream date really

― plaks (I know, right?), Tuesday, November 3, 2009 6:15 PM (4 hours ago)

tbh i was pretty disappointed w/ how the whole jess situation played out, but he was a fantasstic character, and had a lot of potential i dont think the show really tapped into.

HOWEVER, tristan being written out was the worst decision they made in the first few seasons (well, i guess they didn't have a choice, but still). he was such an interesting character, and is my vote for best looking male of any show ive watched this decade. i'm st8 tho, so take that w/ a grain of salt

Family Guy outranking FNL = I'm going to create a Seth McFarlane sock and SB it.

pretty sure 'sex and the city' is gonna be one of the thus far unmentioned shows that doesn't break 50?

has a show ever gone from fresh/interesting to unwatchably one-note as quickly as Scrubs?

was gilmore girls on in the UK? if not, or yes but only at weird times on weird channels, that would explain why i) i had never heard of it until this poll, and confused it with the golden girls ii) it placed low -- lots of brit voters.

because of the separate tv markets in US and UK, ii) means the top 10 is going to be dominated by shows that crossed over: the UK office and a bunch of US drama did well over here. freaks and geeks is not going to get many UK votes, for instance : (

Gilmore Girls is on right now on E4+1 caek.

And he really means right now.

weird times

Why is Seinfeld getting mentioned in this thread so much? It wasn't even eligible (it ended in '98)!

And it's been on ever since (except in the UK).

Oh shit - RONG! - it's on Virgin 1 right now.

or it should be. i'm playing football manager, looking for jobs and not watching telly.

or it should be. i'm playing football manager, looking for jobsfucking around on the internet and not watching telly.

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Let's be honest here :(

Eps.5 series 1 is on now followed by series 2, ep 1. Are they going through the whole thing?

is my vote for best looking male of any show ive watched this decade

He's also in One Tree Hill and Dawson's Creek, so guess you didn't watch either of them. I really should try again with Gilmore Girls, it looks right up my street. I'm not sure why I didn't give it much of a chance before.

(ooh, look, you're right, just about to start on E4+1, might give it a go RIGHT NOW!)

yr numbering confuses me.

Also, James Franco was in a telly show this decade, so no other male really stands a chance, right?

seinfeld getting mentioned as a 'the type of thing you shouldn't vote for' example.

yr numbering confuses me

Was that me? I'm trying to type, while watching Seinfeld, while trying to figure out how to put the hoover back together - it's too much...

Twenty minutes into Gilmore Girls - mother is v. annoying and her comic timing off a bit off. Could see me watching this though.

has a show ever gone from fresh/interesting to unwatchably one-note as quickly as Scrubs?

scrubs was fun for a good four years before I got totally burnt out on the schtick, plenty of shows haven't made it through a season

gilmore girls would be a letdown after bad santa y/n? (never watched gg but would santa graham.)

scrubs doesn't bear repeated re-viewing, however, and is rerun at Friends-rate here in the UK, with fewer seasons to pull episodes from.

has a show ever gone from fresh/interesting to unwatchably one-note as quickly as Scrubs?

scrubs was fun for a good four years before I got totally burnt out on the schtick, plenty of shows haven't made it through a season

classic YMMV quandary I suppose, but while many shows don't get through a season it's usually because they're no good. Scrubs was very good indeed, but I got heartily sick of it sometime during season 2 I think and now can't tolerate it at all.

scrubs was fun for a good four years before I got totally burnt out on the schtick, plenty of shows haven't made it through a season

otm

Scrubs was only fun before I noticed how much I hate Zach Braff.

season 2, right?

The same, except for me it was when I noticed I wns Elliot.

Still tolerate it tbh, if only for the "moral".

"It's not always easy to do the right thing. Like putting someone else's feelings first for a change. Even if it goes against what you really want. But even if you do the right thing, there's no guarantee it'll turn out the right way."

I mean WHO CANNOT APPLY THAT TO THEIR OWN LYFE????

scrubs was fun until they tried to make us care about the four leads when all anyone really wanted was more kelso, ted and the janitor hijinks, and sometimes maybe perry and jordan.

i don't mind braff on scrubs because i think the writers hate his character just as much as i do.

James Franco was in a telly show this decade

lol he's on TWO telly shows this decade now - he's signed on for a few episodes of General Hospital, of all things.

"For a relationship to work, it needs trust; like a wife trusting her husband even if it requires compromise, or a patient trusting his doctor to help him hold onto his dignity. It may take a lot of work, but in the end it's worth it, because things turn out for the best."

JD truthbombing all over the heezy.

scrubs was fun until they tried to make us care about the four leads when all anyone really wanted was more kelso, ted and the janitor hijinks, and sometimes maybe perry and jordan.

harsh on dr turkleton imo, but yeah the other three can go in the furnace for all i care. in fact, using a serial killer angle to bring the janitor to the fore would be a rather awesome move.

okay yeah turk's aite but i just consider him and carla as one package and their drama got old vv quickly

the cheesiness was always there. i think the problems came when the comedy got ridiculously broad. pretty decent finale, and a real shame they're bringing it back.

that's right, i just half-defended scrubs.

yeah trials of Turk/Carla was mad boring. pretty much all the girls JD slept with were stupidly hot - rivalling Joey Tribbiani in these stakes (nb i only saw the pilot of Joey).

would gladly see scrubs back for a one-off where carla gets flayed for the full hour. worse than braff imchallopyo

so...when are we gonna see the next entry in the list?

how about now?

*drum roll while i type it up*

wtf 'type it up'- this should be prepared in your free time ready for c&p on demand.

friends should be along soon

30. It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia (14 votes, 1970 points.)
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/narutos_girl_photos/its-always-sunny-day-in-philadelphi.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47D9-U8hn5I

yup, never heard of it either.

i would like to point out that that was in my predictions yesterday (although i've never really liked it or watched it much)

ok let's move on.

haha are you even mad that a show that gets compared to seinfeld placed?

i've never heard of it, tbh, so even that tidbit of info is news to me.

i voted IASIP having no idea if anyone else really watch it, so i guess this is a good placing. season 5 has been great so far.

season 5???

ok, i realise that USLXORS will be much the same way about many of the results to come so i'll be quiet now.

a very american thingy right? i've heard this show mentioned a lot but fuck if i know what it's about at all.

i'll be really annoyed if 'Corrigan's City Farm' doesn't get a niche vote placing now.

In the UK and Ireland, Bravo broadcast the first season in early 2006, with the second season broadcast on Virgin 1 in late 2007 after a rerun of the first season.

Kind of refused to ever watch Bravo.

I know some Britishers that are obsessed with it. It's pretty hit and miss, but Charlie at the prom with that Alphaville song playing was amazing.

It's Always Sunny is kind of a cult basic cable thing even in the US, probably half the people I know if I asked them they've never heard of it either.

I'd never heard of IASIP until it got a great big ILX thread about it, and now I think i might like to see it (I managed to not watch it at all when it started over here). I haven't got round to it yet, and now FXUK seems to have dropped it (or was it Virgin 1?)

xposts

compared to the british stuff higher up sunny in phil is pretty international (speaking as non-us)

29. Planet Earth (15 votes, 1 first place vote, 1980 points.)
http://midnightcafe.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/planet-earth-4pclrg.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7XuXi3mqYM

shock?

Yeah, now this poll stops becoming lol cult thing and starts becoming srs.

shit just got real

this is the true story...of 7 snow leopards...put together in the same house...

get fucked ilx

get fucked

Yeah I voted for Blue Planet instead, sorry about that.

still pretty sure that my no 1 will win this.

― antastic mr ox (darraghmac), 03 November 2009 16:25 (Yesterday)

still, lol though

everything from here-on in will be contrasted and found wanting, and you will all feel guilty in your black, black hearts.

I somehow missed this off my poll, so it should probably have gone higher than this. I watch a lot of Attenborough things, but this one was extra-epic, also loved the extras with the guy crashing his flying contraption into the baobabs, and the guys trapped with the polar bear etc etc.

Wikipedia tells me that Sigourney Weaver did the Attenborough voice-over for US audiences. Er, why?)

Also, WOAH SHARK BITE.

I want to watch this again now.

loved the extras with the guy crashing his flying contraption into the baobabs

That bloke was a legend.

i may re-watch it all, i think my attention span isn't as bad as it was first time around. did think: 'wow pretty, oh wait, now i'm kind of bored' everytime i watched it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5eJkjMLIRM

I've never seen either Earth or Blue Planet all the way through. I'm waiting to get a rockin' HD TV + Blu-Ray.

that's a crummy reason not to give it your no 1 imo

He was great. That cameraman forced to do that at the behest of the batty inventor dude was briefly my favourite person on telly. I can't believe I must have missed and therefore deleted this on my first runthrough of the longlist.

xpost to chap

did think: 'wow pretty, oh wait, now i'm kind of bored' everytime i watched it.

Sort of know what you mean; it's an indisputable, towering achievement and totally ravishing, but I don't actually enjoy it as much as a story about people trying to kill each other with guns or what have you.

hardon for sb imo

That cameraman forced to do that at the behest of the batty inventor dude was briefly my favourite person on telly.

Haha, yeah I remember that now, he was bricking it!

lol fond memories at the funeral of a GUY YOU SHOT, that's what this is like

A guy we shot who is going to haunt us till the end of the thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zipSuLjQLgY

28. How I Met Your Mother (16 votes, 2170 points.)
http://turimusic.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/image/how_i_met_your_mother_s1_box222.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgBMFwVeIGI

travesty imo.

Oh look, it's another show I gave up on after about three episodes. At this rate, Samantha Who? will be number one.

this thread is car crash entertaiment all of a sudden

This song

omg i forgot ted mosby is a jerk. that, plus the two robin songs and the cat funeral song = more musical entertainment than jools holland could sell his soul for.

From tree flying clip: