Starting the thread early, because someone who I hate (seriously! pure hatred!) just announced her bid to run for Senate.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 6 November 2009 21:51 (fifteen years ago)
Hahaha I so knew it would be her you're talking about.
The Dems just have to chill, I guess. The GOP primaries are going to be hilarious.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 November 2009 21:53 (fifteen years ago)
New West looks at Carly Fiorina's tenure at HP and by proxy, Boise
In her announcement editorial, Fiorina wrote, “Our most pressing problems today are too few jobs for Americans and too much spending in Washington. As California’s senator, economic recovery and fiscal accountability will be my priorities. I will not settle for a jobless recovery.”Wasn’t it Fiorina who sent thousands of jobs at HP offshore – to India, for example?“Throughout my career I’ve brought people together, and I’ve solved problems. And that is what is needed in our government today. People who are willing to set aside ego and partisanship and instead work to develop solutions to our problems,” she said.“Brought people together”? As a longtime resident of Boise with friends who worked at HP, I’ve sat at many a dinner party where people told tales of how she used egotistical, divisive and manipulatory tactics. One of her biographers, Michael Malone, said Fiorina “created a pestilential culture” and “a poisonous stew.” Solved problems? Company stock went down by 60 percent, Fiorina was forced out by the board, and while 28,000 HP employees were fired or laid off, she slinked out of town with $21 million – some reports say much more - in her pocket.The San Jose Mercury News reported that in the past 12 years, which includes years Fiorina ran HP, the company used a Middle East distributor to sell millions of dollars’ worth of merchandise to Iran, which is illegal.At a company famous for its innovation and its strategy of encouraging employees to pursue ideas, Fiorina left thousands of people bemoaning the loss of the “HP Way” in which they had a moral investment. Fighting with the founding families throughout her tenure, she angered employees who had a genuine love and respect for them.After she was fired, Fiorina make the rounds of talk shows in 2005, flogging her book and trying to paint herself as a victim of a conspiracy.
Wasn’t it Fiorina who sent thousands of jobs at HP offshore – to India, for example?
“Throughout my career I’ve brought people together, and I’ve solved problems. And that is what is needed in our government today. People who are willing to set aside ego and partisanship and instead work to develop solutions to our problems,” she said.
“Brought people together”? As a longtime resident of Boise with friends who worked at HP, I’ve sat at many a dinner party where people told tales of how she used egotistical, divisive and manipulatory tactics. One of her biographers, Michael Malone, said Fiorina “created a pestilential culture” and “a poisonous stew.” Solved problems? Company stock went down by 60 percent, Fiorina was forced out by the board, and while 28,000 HP employees were fired or laid off, she slinked out of town with $21 million – some reports say much more - in her pocket.
The San Jose Mercury News reported that in the past 12 years, which includes years Fiorina ran HP, the company used a Middle East distributor to sell millions of dollars’ worth of merchandise to Iran, which is illegal.
At a company famous for its innovation and its strategy of encouraging employees to pursue ideas, Fiorina left thousands of people bemoaning the loss of the “HP Way” in which they had a moral investment. Fighting with the founding families throughout her tenure, she angered employees who had a genuine love and respect for them.
After she was fired, Fiorina make the rounds of talk shows in 2005, flogging her book and trying to paint herself as a victim of a conspiracy.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 6 November 2009 21:53 (fifteen years ago)
The GOP primaries are going to be hilarious.
Countdown to the Meg Whitman implosion in 5... 4... 3...
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 6 November 2009 21:57 (fifteen years ago)
Their amount of voting records combined = mine...at 21 or so.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 November 2009 23:34 (fifteen years ago)
Didn't Fiorina force that shitty ass HP/Compaq? merger that didn't accomplish much of anything and then got a sweet golden parachute once all was said and done? Yeah good luck.
― mayor jingleberries, Friday, 6 November 2009 23:57 (fifteen years ago)
Still having a lot of trouble taking the notion of Candidate Fiorina seriously.
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 7 November 2009 00:03 (fifteen years ago)
Meg Whitman at least saw the writing on the wall and left eBay with her narrative intact.
so looks inexcusable. so that makes her a shoe-in right?
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:26 (fifteen years ago)
She sure did. She single-handedly ruined HP - alienated it's core business of high-end electronics (HP is much more than cheap computers and printers), and devalued the company by about 60%.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 7 November 2009 05:21 (fifteen years ago)
This is getting a lot of meme attention over the past couple of days, but it's worth seeing again as it's a bucketful of crazy. Here's Carly Fiorina's new attack ad on Tom Campbell. Special guest star... the Demon Sheep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRY7wBuCcBY
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 8 February 2010 09:46 (fifteen years ago)
I'll probably regret starting this since I usually avoid politics threads like the plague. But the primary is June 8 and I'm trying to parse all the obfuscatory proposition language and my head hurts. I'm thinking "no" on 14-17 and I'm undecided on 13, which I'll admit I have reactionary ideological qualms about because of the original Prop 13 -- but if it passed, I probably wouldn't care.
Yeah.
http://www.smartvoter.org/
― EGOT Schiele (get bent), Thursday, 20 May 2010 04:12 (fifteen years ago)
Oh whoops, I was going to start a thread and the nice prompt told me Elvis T had already started one and it helpfully posted what I was going to post on the other thread.
― EGOT Schiele (get bent), Thursday, 20 May 2010 04:13 (fifteen years ago)
The GOP primaries are going to be hilarious.― Ned Raggett, Friday, November 6, 2009 1:53 PM (6 months ago)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, November 6, 2009 1:53 PM (6 months ago)
I called this and then some.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 May 2010 04:14 (fifteen years ago)
Anyway I'm with you on the propositions here -- head-spinning stuff.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 May 2010 04:15 (fifteen years ago)
OMG, the Poizner v Whitman attack ad showdown is vicious.
― EGOT Schiele (get bent), Thursday, 20 May 2010 04:18 (fifteen years ago)
For a while there I thought Poizner's approach to wait until closer to the election was giving everything to Whitman on a plate, but he didn't disappoint, as it were. Jerry Brown's sitting back and laughing his ass off on this one.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 May 2010 04:21 (fifteen years ago)
That said the REAL 'winner' as such might be Tom Campbell -- if he can pull it off he'll be the only one on the GOP side who made anything close to a truly smart move these past six months.
Also, major entertainment at a slew of Sarah Palin freaks crying and wetting themselves when their darling endorsed Fiorina instead of DeVore.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 May 2010 04:22 (fifteen years ago)
Jerry Brown's sitting back and laughing his ass off on this one.
My thoughts exactly. He actually knows how to play this game, so it'll be fun to see how he plays it.
― EGOT Schiele (get bent), Thursday, 20 May 2010 04:28 (fifteen years ago)
For sure. Any further intensification in the ad campaign between now and the primaries:
* wastes more of the winner's time/energy/money
* even more importantly wastes the winner's organization's time etc.
* makes it seem to the electorate at large that whoever wins is a complete mental case
Boxer has it a little harder in that Campbell would be a tougher if not truly tough opponent -- Fiorina would be dead meat. (DeVore is of course a non-starter.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 May 2010 04:32 (fifteen years ago)
Haha and speaking of which:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-governor20-20100520,0,2589100.story
Meg Whitman, the billionaire Republican candidate for governor, has plunged in polls as rapidly as she once ascended, dropping from a 50-point lead in March to single digits in a poll released Wednesday.Whitman's rise earlier this year relied largely on a single overwhelming factor — a personal fortune she has tapped for $68 million so far, allowing her to flood the airwaves for months. But her decline stems from a host of factors, according to political analysts and strategists.Her opponent Steve Poizner's attack on her as being too liberal on illegal immigration lacked traction for weeks, then found footing with the passage of a tough new Arizona law that Whitman opposed.The business background that was an early advantage for the former EBay chief turned into a liability with publicity about her ties to a controversial Wall Street firm.Attacks from both the right, via Poizner, and the left, from Democrats, left Whitman whipsawed. Anti-establishment voters may have taken their angst out on a high-flying frontrunner.The result: According to a new poll by the Public Policy Institute of California, Whitman's once-massive lead over state Insurance Commissioner Poizner has dwindled to nine points, 38% to 29%. Whitman's support dropped 23 points in two months, the survey showed, while Poizner gained 18 points. Democrat Jerry Brown now narrowly leads Whitman in a general election matchup, a reversal of their standing in March.
Whitman's rise earlier this year relied largely on a single overwhelming factor — a personal fortune she has tapped for $68 million so far, allowing her to flood the airwaves for months. But her decline stems from a host of factors, according to political analysts and strategists.
Her opponent Steve Poizner's attack on her as being too liberal on illegal immigration lacked traction for weeks, then found footing with the passage of a tough new Arizona law that Whitman opposed.
The business background that was an early advantage for the former EBay chief turned into a liability with publicity about her ties to a controversial Wall Street firm.
Attacks from both the right, via Poizner, and the left, from Democrats, left Whitman whipsawed. Anti-establishment voters may have taken their angst out on a high-flying frontrunner.
The result: According to a new poll by the Public Policy Institute of California, Whitman's once-massive lead over state Insurance Commissioner Poizner has dwindled to nine points, 38% to 29%. Whitman's support dropped 23 points in two months, the survey showed, while Poizner gained 18 points. Democrat Jerry Brown now narrowly leads Whitman in a general election matchup, a reversal of their standing in March.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 May 2010 04:42 (fifteen years ago)
Meanwhile, I'll be watching http://wwwDOTorlytaitzesqDOTcom/ with great interest.
― EGOT Schiele (get bent), Thursday, 20 May 2010 05:08 (fifteen years ago)
Her official campaign site is http://wwwDOTrunorlyrunDOTorg/ (URL masked to keep birther weirdos from showing up here).
― EGOT Schiele (get bent), Thursday, 20 May 2010 05:13 (fifteen years ago)
One of Orly's stated campaign issues is to have an "Educated Populous."
― EGOT Schiele (get bent), Thursday, 20 May 2010 05:15 (fifteen years ago)
why would you do that?
xp
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 20 May 2010 05:16 (fifteen years ago)
Hahaha.
It all makes me glad this phrase exists:
Recent article by Washington burro correspondent Stephanie Mencimer
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 May 2010 05:16 (fifteen years ago)
Taitz: "Our existing stewards of this office hardly address the growing problem of elections as popularity contests rather than a battle of ideas and philosophies."
So elections shouldn't be popularity contests? I thought that was kinda the point of democratic governance.
― EGOT Schiele (get bent), Thursday, 20 May 2010 05:19 (fifteen years ago)
Fun fun!
http://hermosabeach.patch.com/articles/accusations-interrupt-tea-party-meeting
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 May 2010 05:31 (fifteen years ago)
get out there and vote!
― aix-en-pains (get bent), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 12:04 (fifteen years ago)
Will be doing that after work!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 12:47 (fifteen years ago)
OMG ORLY
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_06/024156.php
I had no idea her candidacy was anything less than a joke. I guess we'll see who's laughing tonight.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 19:08 (fifteen years ago)
any other Bay Area folks having major cognitive dissonance at voting for guys you loathed as mayor for statewide offices?
― sarahel, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)
Well, as an Oakland resident I've never had the pleasure of voting for Gavin, and my residency in Oakland postdates JB's tenure as mayor, so I'm nonplussed about either. Of course, you do have the option of going for Janice Hahn, who has received the newspaper endorsements. Now if Ron Dellums and Chris Daly were running for Gov / Lt. Gov, I would stay home.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)
i voted, fules. (and i did vote for hahn over newsom, but it was a toss-up.)
― aix-en-pains (get bent), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 20:36 (fifteen years ago)
I'll admit to my chagrin I'm won over by Gavin's rakish charm.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)
I figure i'd be doing my friends who live in SF a favor by voting for him -- then they might get a less douchey mayor
― sarahel, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 21:35 (fifteen years ago)
polls are closed. let the carnage begin!
― aix-en-pains (get bent), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 03:06 (fifteen years ago)
wow, with 7.4% of precincts reporting, jerry brown has 84% of the dem vote. i'm not surprised, but daaaamn.
― aix-en-pains (get bent), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 03:33 (fifteen years ago)
i'm kinda scared that orly taitz is getting any votes at all.
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/sec/59.htm
― aix-en-pains (get bent), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 03:37 (fifteen years ago)
Wasn't Brown the only candidate of note anyway?
I'm neither scared nor surprised at Taitz getting votes, as there will always be morons.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 04:10 (fifteen years ago)
proposition results as bleak as always
― edd|e house is not a homie (tremendoid), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 04:12 (fifteen years ago)
i had to watch the demon sheep ad again. sounds like carly exhumed the corpse of orson welles to record the male voice-over.
― aix-en-pains (get bent), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 04:22 (fifteen years ago)
cf. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH1PJTY9AVA
― aix-en-pains (get bent), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 04:27 (fifteen years ago)
ha yeah i somehow missed that ad entirely. her 'terrorism kills' ad is the most punchable of the election season so far
― edd|e house is not a homie (tremendoid), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 04:48 (fifteen years ago)
AP is saying Prop 14 passes.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 04:53 (fifteen years ago)
i love how news sources like AP can just "call" elections with fewer than 15 percent of the precincts reporting.
― aix-en-pains (get bent), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 04:54 (fifteen years ago)
no surprise but ugh gavin ran away with lt. gov. la weekly went after janice hahn hard last week (fwiw, their political agenda gets more suspect by the minute) but this is one case personality def. wins me over i just can't trust that dude.
― edd|e house is not a homie (tremendoid), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 04:57 (fifteen years ago)
prop 16 and prop 17 results are pissing me off... are we really this easy to dupe?
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 04:59 (fifteen years ago)
(don't answer that)
I was going to say.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 05:00 (fifteen years ago)
i voted no on 16 and 17. i'm not so easy to dupe.
tremendoid, i still pick up the weekly for listings and reviews, but i can't read the political coverage. my stomach isn't that strong.
― aix-en-pains (get bent), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 05:02 (fifteen years ago)
and 15 gets shot down?! wtf ca. i'm the same w/ the weekly now if i pick it up at all i just had time waiting for my car to get serviced
― edd|e house is not a homie (tremendoid), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 05:07 (fifteen years ago)
Everyone thinks theyre getting free shit because the descriptions of the props are like 2 sentences long..
― mayor jingleberries, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 06:04 (fifteen years ago)
Prop 16 is down by .7% with 39% in. Hope it holds.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 06:26 (fifteen years ago)
orly currently has 30.2 percent of the republican vote in los angeles county. granted, this only amounts to 36,341 voters, but i'm still ashamed.
― aix-en-pains (get bent), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 06:38 (fifteen years ago)
Does Prop 14's passing mean that third parties are pretty much assed out of general elections?
― naus, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 07:11 (fifteen years ago)
so does the LA Weekly have the same "asshole libertarian" politics as the SF Weekly?
― sarahel, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 08:52 (fifteen years ago)
"deceptively right-leaning phony muckracking" imo but we could be talking about the same thing somehow. it feels like the defunct new times la, an 90's alt weekly whose feature columnist jill stewart is now la weekly's news editor
― edd|e house is not a homie (tremendoid), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)
oops deputy editor over news and politics
― edd|e house is not a homie (tremendoid), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 12:53 (fifteen years ago)
major step down from harold myerson who knew *too* much about local politics if that's possible; i wouldnt be so appalled over the political shift if the reporting wasn't so shallow and prone to hatchet-jobbery
― edd|e house is not a homie (tremendoid), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 13:00 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, SF Weekly's like that except without jill stewart
on the bright side, looks like 16 and 17 are going down
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)
Is it terrible for me to say Meg Whitman is too fugly to win a general election?
Also: who is more unpopular? incumbents or CEO-types?
― mayor jingleberries, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)
She's like an ugly Angela Merkel.
― wmlynch, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)
Meanwhile, the Governator is now as unpopular as Gray Davis was when he was recalled
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 19 July 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago)
What are the realistic chances for Prop 13 to be undone in the next 10 years?
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 19 July 2010 22:01 (fourteen years ago)
prop 13 has decimated the state but people would rather die than pay taxes here so, none
― akm, Monday, 19 July 2010 22:08 (fourteen years ago)
Pretty true. An example:
Mayor Jerry Sanders has cut jobs, trimmed services and taken a hard line with employee unions during contract talks. A two-tier pension plan has been established, with lower payments for new hires. The city's bond rating has improved, allowing it to borrow enough money to embark on a major street paving campaign.But Sanders has steered clear of proposing massive service cutbacks or layoffs, an all-out war on pension costs or tax increases. (Still sacrosanct: free trash pickup for single-family homes, something most big-city residents began paying for decades ago.)As a result, there remains a "structural gap" between the services residents have come to expect and the amount they are willing to pay, according to the city's independent budget analyst. Progress toward reducing the city's pension payments has been undercut by the recession.Two weeks ago, Sanders appeared ready to propose a ballot measure for a half-cent sales tax increase. But the Republican Party and others vowed to mount a campaign to defeat it, preferring layoffs and outsourcing. Sanders backed down.
But Sanders has steered clear of proposing massive service cutbacks or layoffs, an all-out war on pension costs or tax increases. (Still sacrosanct: free trash pickup for single-family homes, something most big-city residents began paying for decades ago.)
As a result, there remains a "structural gap" between the services residents have come to expect and the amount they are willing to pay, according to the city's independent budget analyst. Progress toward reducing the city's pension payments has been undercut by the recession.
Two weeks ago, Sanders appeared ready to propose a ballot measure for a half-cent sales tax increase. But the Republican Party and others vowed to mount a campaign to defeat it, preferring layoffs and outsourcing. Sanders backed down.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 July 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago)
Pensions for local government employees appear to be poised to suck the blood out of city & county budgets statewide.
This was pretty interesting in yesterday's Oakland Tribune-
http://www.insidebayarea.com/columns/ci_15536013
Simply put, the city faces a financial time bomb, fueled by at least $2 billion of unfunded liabilities for employee pensions and retiree health care costs. That's an amount equal to about five times the annual general fund budget. It's the result of unrealistically generous benefit promises to workers, the city's failure to adequately fund the benefits, and the financial downturn's erosion of money that was set aside.
That's an amount equal to about five times the annual general fund budget. It's the result of unrealistically generous benefit promises to workers, the city's failure to adequately fund the benefits, and the financial downturn's erosion of money that was set aside.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 19 July 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago)
admittedly people in CA feel like they're being nickel-and-dimed with local parcel taxes, etc and they are. but I think those are only happening because a more permanent fix (getting rid of 13) hasn't been implemented.
― akm, Monday, 19 July 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago)
and all the other fee increases, and the sales tax increases - there's a measure on the ballot, i think, that would increase Oakland's sales tax to over 10%
― sarahel, Monday, 19 July 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago)
True, but it's pretty close now already.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 19 July 2010 22:37 (fourteen years ago)
Gotta love skullduggery.
Meantime can we talk about the Bell stuff here?
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 15:29 (fourteen years ago)
the activism of bell constituents is genuinely awesome, heard someone on the radio break down these types of charter city shenanigans, probably more state oversight coming to these arrangements lolright we're brokegreat idea for brown to be milking the investigation, being too poor for commercials and all but in practice he is being much less than impressive.
― grime come true (tremendoid), Thursday, 29 July 2010 06:10 (fourteen years ago)
Jerry Brown has spent much of his race for governor assaulting the character of his Republican rival Meg Whitman. But now, in a jaw-dropping bit of rhetoric, he's extended his criticism to a former Democratic president, Bill Clinton. And he did so by referring obliquely to Clinton's dalliance with White House intern Monica Lewinsky.
“Meg Whitman. She stops at nothing. She's even got Clinton lying about me. That's right. No, did you see that? Where he said I raised taxes. It's a lie,” he told a crowd at an East Los Angeles event Sunday. “… I mean Clinton's a nice guy but whoever said he always told the truth? You remember, right? There's that whole story there about did he or didn't he. OK, I did… I did not have taxes with this state.”
― buzza, Monday, 13 September 2010 19:23 (fourteen years ago)
"I did not have taxes with this state" is pretty hilarious.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 13 September 2010 19:29 (fourteen years ago)
What if Props. 20 and 27 both pass?
― naus, Thursday, 21 October 2010 02:12 (fourteen years ago)
the one that gets more votes wins.
― shecky naw (tremendoid), Thursday, 21 October 2010 02:25 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.infoworld.com/t/social-networking/meg-whitmans-campaign-shows-how-not-use-twitter-335
― shecky naw (tremendoid), Thursday, 21 October 2010 02:26 (fourteen years ago)
so is prop 13 going to drag the american economy down? jesus christ what a mess.
― by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 21 October 2010 02:57 (fourteen years ago)
well it's already destroyed California's economy
― the first Asian legislator in our Nevada State Assembly (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 21 October 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago)
I wish Meg Whitman would have distributed her $150 million to every person in CA to vote for her so I could pocket the cash and not vote for her anyway.. Would be better for the state.
― mayor jingleberries, Thursday, 21 October 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago)
I could def. go for 4 dollars
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0Wz7OZotFY&feature=player_embedded#
― Great Goulessarian! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 28 October 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
Meg Whitman RIP
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/california-politics/2010/10/whitman-says-her-former-housekeeper-should-be-deported.html
― mayor jingleberries, Friday, 29 October 2010 00:05 (fourteen years ago)
Boxer up 8 pts
― Great Goulessarian! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 October 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago)
The chronicle had just declared her dead the day prior. I don't think anything is sure this season except Meg Whitman's demise.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 30 October 2010 01:36 (fourteen years ago)
Happy about the Gov's race, the Senate race, and Props 23 & 25. Still, this is w/ 40% reporting.
― naus, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 07:03 (fourteen years ago)
Nah, put a fork in it all -- it's over 50% now and the remaining spots to be counted include LA and the Bay Area so that's about that.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 07:12 (fourteen years ago)
Anyway, story of the day:
http://www.sacbee.com/2010/11/02/3154835/calif-poll-worker-steals-up-to.html
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 07:14 (fourteen years ago)
sounds like they're not gonna touch the instant runoff/ranked choice voting elections until Friday
― sarahel, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 07:23 (fourteen years ago)
wish we had fusion voting here.
― naus, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 07:27 (fourteen years ago)
i want/need to go to sleep but i'm a fiend for this stuff and am itching to see carly concede.
― the moray eels eat the (get bent), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 07:50 (fourteen years ago)
pOT pRop In CAlifornIA gOeS uP iN SmOKe...
― jeff, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 08:23 (fourteen years ago)
seems like it's really close now between harris and cooley. 46.4% to 45.2%, advantage cooley (for now), with 67.2% of precincts fully or partially reporting.
― the moray eels eat the (get bent), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 08:38 (fourteen years ago)
Good week for the Bay Area: first the Giants and now Brown.
― Virginia Plain, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 13:01 (fourteen years ago)
Harris/Cooley still too close to call but she's ahead now:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/california-politics/2010/11/kamala-harris-clings-to-narrow-lead-over-steve-cooley-for-attorney-general.html
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago)
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/attorney-general/
Very close vote difference and absentee counting still to come. Here's hoping!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago)
hadn't heard this got so close - hope Harris pulls it out, I like her.
― klacktoveedesteen (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago)
I've decided that, more than anything else, I'm happy Prop 25 passed.
― A Reclaimer Hewn With (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago)
^ 26 passed though, nasty bit of business
― bounding (tremendoid), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago)
Shit, you're right.
― A Reclaimer Hewn With (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago)
the counties that haven't fully reported yet would seem to be cooley country but with absentees and such that race will be too close to call for a while
― buzza, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago)
san bernardino and riverside that is
― buzza, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, the 25/26 combination is a classic 'yay! oh wait' moment. Typical of the state, though.
So Carly still hasn't conceded, it seems. I have this feeling she actually thought she deserved a win just because.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago)
It's kind of amazing how good a night it was in California state politics considering how bad it was everywhere else.
― macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago)
Well, it was a classically mixed night really (thus some of the prop results), but it does definitely show that the state GOP really is up a creek when it comes to the major offices here. There's no reason for them NOT to have more of a share of the place -- for instance, for the past forty years, a Republican has been governor for twenty-five of them -- but Schwarznegger used the GOP as a flag of convenience and before him Wilson helped kill off the regular party's prospects with 187. And there hasn't been a GOP senator since 1992 now, though then again that's because Boxer and Feinstein are eternal at this point. (I think Feinstein is considering going for it again next time through? Beating out Cranston at this rate.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:29 (fourteen years ago)
Anyway, flash back to a different time! (Skip ahead to 2:15)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlavxlD-q20
"...ZSCHAU!"
There were so many of those damn ads running then.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:32 (fourteen years ago)
what was the percentage breakdown on prop 19?
― omar little, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:35 (fourteen years ago)
Well, it was a classically mixed night really (thus some of the prop results)
Some of the props didn't work out, but 23 and 25 were the ones that mattered the most to me and they both went the right way.
― macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago)
that dude who stole the ballots in SF, i think i found his website:
http://karlnicholas.com/
― omar little, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:40 (fourteen years ago)
My last round of pretending to be an attorney
This is not the kind of thing one should be saying, I suspect.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago)
Meanwhile, this is a great result:
http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2010/11/ap-democrat-pan-wins-5th-assem.html
Note that the guy he defeated was the goof who wrote Prop 8.
Answering Omar's question above:
19 Legalize Marijuana in CA, Regulate and Tax Yes 3,359,776 46.2% No 3,906,895 53.8%
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:47 (fourteen years ago)
Well that took long enough:
Carly ConcedesLocals Are...47% Laughing
Locals Are...47% Laughing
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:59 (fourteen years ago)
jeez and you just know there were like 1 million dudes who couldn't get it together yesterday who were definite "yes on 19" voters
― omar little, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:00 (fourteen years ago)
See what happens next time, I figure. (And there will be a next time, that vote was closer than I expected.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:01 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oVsqW-M77k
― omar little, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:02 (fourteen years ago)
Full breakdown here:
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/
Site was THRASHED last night, I couldn't get in there for about three hours.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:04 (fourteen years ago)
i think i voted no on several things just because i'm tired of everything being turned into a ballot proposition.
― sarahel, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:04 (fourteen years ago)
and, hey, San Franciscans - what was the deal with the sit/lie measure?
― sarahel, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:05 (fourteen years ago)
tbqh i personally had qualms with few of the workplace/motor vehicle etc. issues being worked through (meaningfully), hopefully the narrow margin can get the legislature can finally get to work on a coherent framework knowing, like you say, it's def. gonna be on the ballot from now until it's passed.
― bounding (tremendoid), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago)
mangled the last sentence. then again i wonder if legislators kicking the can is preferable to them thinking about whatever do we do w/ the marihuana problem
― bounding (tremendoid), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago)
i personally had qualms with few of the workplace/motor vehicle etc. issues being worked through (meaningfully)
A concern for me as well, I've heard others too (one was the fear that tobacco companies would swoop in and ruin the product!). As for legislators kicking the can down the road, how can you say that after their stellar work on the state budget oh wait.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago)
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef013488af5771970c-600wi
"Wha' happa?"
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago)
a variation of Prop 19 will go up in 2012, and will probably pass. surprised it lost by the margin it did tbh, but attribute that to turnout skewering older
― klacktoveedesteen (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago)
"The fight is not over, the fight is just beginning," she said.She did not take questions or discuss her plans for the future.
She did not take questions or discuss her plans for the future.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago)
i dunno - one could argue that the reason it did as well as it did was because the economy is so shitty, and that there were a significant number of people voting for it as a revenue-generating measure.
― sarahel, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:33 (fourteen years ago)
One of the sadder/wackier stories:
In the state Senate, Democrats did not lose or pick up any seats in the election. They are down one, though, because of the recent death of Sen. Jenny Oropeza (D-Long Beach). However, Oropeza's death on Oct. 20 did not stop voters in the 28th Senate District from reelecting her with 58.4% of the vote, which triggers a special election in which a new Democrat can compete.Republican John Stammreich received 35.7% of the vote, and Libertarian David Ruskin garnered 5.9%. Stammerich filed a complaint with the state attorney general over a Democratic mailer that he said misled voters by talking about Oropeza's illness but not her death."They were saying everything but telling the truth about Senator Oropeza's death," Stammreich said.
Republican John Stammreich received 35.7% of the vote, and Libertarian David Ruskin garnered 5.9%. Stammerich filed a complaint with the state attorney general over a Democratic mailer that he said misled voters by talking about Oropeza's illness but not her death.
"They were saying everything but telling the truth about Senator Oropeza's death," Stammreich said.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
xpost -- if there was that much overall concern about raising revenue then the park vehicle prop would have passed.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago)
all he's asking for is a fair fight xp
― bounding (tremendoid), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago)
not necessarily - i'd guess that most people would want other people's money to generate revenue for the state. park vehicle prop would have meant they'd have to pay a whole extra $18 a year - oh no!
― sarahel, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:37 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.latimes.com/media/alternatethumbnails/photo/2010-11/57306548-03104729.jpg
"In memory of past days, my rendition of 'Blue Bayou.'"
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago)
it was pretty funny how many of my FB friends posted "California Uber Alles" youtubes.
― sarahel, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago)
my friendly neighborhood elderly republican poll workers was bellowing at length about the state park initiative while i was voting, annoying but would rather hear them talk about that than any of the other props tbh
― bounding (tremendoid), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago)
Sit/Lie law passed but it's totally stupid and unenforceable so whatever
― klacktoveedesteen (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago)
Taking you back to 1976...
http://cdn.svcs.c2.uclick.com/c2/fbe634d0acaf012d63f600163e41dd5b
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago)
i remember when Jerry lived in my neighborhood.
― sarahel, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago)
http://cdn.svcs.c2.uclick.com/c2/5d506600acb2012d63f600163e41dd5b
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago)
Do our ILXor San Franciscans have any insight into who the new mayor of SF might be?
― macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago)
tell me you voted yes on 21 (vehicle registration fee going to state parks). out of everything, that's the result i'm maddest about.
― the moray eels eat the (get bent), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago)
oh yeah - i voted for the state parks one! I'm annoyed by the results of that one as well.
― sarahel, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago)
Reasonably satisfied and/or unsurprised with the local OC state/federal legislature results -- I would have liked Mansoor to flameout but there was no real chance of it happening.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
sorry, i posted that before previewing the new posts that came up. (xp)
― the moray eels eat the (get bent), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago)
I basically always vote for every single tax increase and bond initiative proposed
because I am a jerk
― klacktoveedesteen (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
no seriously, I vote that way because I assume our state will always be cash-strapped, and I am likely to be outnumbered anyway so may as well approve of any and all efforts to increase state revenues
― klacktoveedesteen (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:52 (fourteen years ago)
http://gdreality.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/heroes-david-bowie.jpg
http://www.imgnet.tk/images/171789Iggy_Pop_The_Idiot_1.jpg
― PEOPLE translated as DATA!!!!1!11! (zero of the signified), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:55 (fourteen years ago)
Probably an unfair comparison, as neither David nor Iggy's jackets are anywhere near as outlandish as Carly's.
― PEOPLE translated as DATA!!!!1!11! (zero of the signified), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.trinityplayersny.org/images/past_shows/evita.jpg
― Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
yeah still waiting for someone to take prop 13 head on but really really glad whitman's attempt to bait jerry brown into doing so failed, that's gonna take a pretty articulate argument just judging from most older democrats i know.
― bounding (tremendoid), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
The other day I got a mailer from Whitman -- at what clearly is my rented apartment in a large building full of rented apartments -- warning me that Jerry Brown is going to ruin Prop 13 for me. I didn't know whether to laugh or punch a wall.
― macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago)
^^ yeah exactly - i've argued about Prop 13 with my mom - i think i ended up winning the argument because property taxes are public, and I looked up my parents' on their county assessor's website.
― sarahel, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
basically, my parents live in the house they bought in 1975, and pay way less than 1% of the value of their house in property taxes.
― sarahel, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
jerry brown used to look like a character from a doonesbury strip
http://www.ronstadt-linda.com/nwk79.jpg
― 51 tyson (crüt), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
my parents both instilled me with a loathing for Prop 13
― klacktoveedesteen (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago)
why did your parents loathe it?
― sarahel, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago)
Within a year of its passing the apocalypticly deleterious effect it had on California schools was visible even to a fourth grader (me).
― A Reclaimer Hewn With (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 19:23 (fourteen years ago)
both hardcore liberals who worked for the public education system well aware of the ways it would - and continues to - cripple the state budget
― the Whiney G. Whinegarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago)
You still learned how to use 'deleterious' properly so maybe you're overreacting.
― macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago)
i think it actually took longer to sink in - but definitely almost every year I spent in the CA public school (except for the 3 years I was in a magnet program) it just got worse and worse - this was 1980 - 1992. I think one could also blame a decade of conservative Republican governors, and also Ronald Reagan.
― sarahel, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 19:26 (fourteen years ago)
My time in the public school system was more recent than yours but I are still purty smart.
― macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
Did we really need to devote that much class time and financial resources to learning to say no to drugs?
― sarahel, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
100% of precincts are in, harris still up by 15,000, prob enough to prevail versus any further ballots/recounts
― buzza, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
that "100% reporting" can represent partial results tho.......weird
― buzza, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
Did we really need to devote that much class time and financial resources to seeing Soleil Moon Frye up close? y
― bounding (tremendoid), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
Another failed remake of the "Come to Daddy" video:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef013488afebef970c-800wi
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
i think that might be considered statistically insignificant -- i wouldn't fault anyone for wanting a recount.
― the moray eels eat the (get bent), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
I said no to drugs but they didn't listen.
― A Reclaimer Hewn With (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, i just doubt cooley can make up the diff in whatever recount scenario comes into play, not saying he should throw in the towel. it is ridiculously close.
― buzza, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago)
Right now it's only 14,838 votes to her favor.
― A Reclaimer Hewn With (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago)
LOL at the photo but at the same time I assume he always looks this fake:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef013488ac2a0d970c-600wi
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 22:00 (fourteen years ago)
hate him so much
― the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 22:03 (fourteen years ago)
he's the quintessential stuffed suit - stuffed with slime
That's just his smile, actually, though he is a bit of a ham.
― A Reclaimer Hewn With (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 22:10 (fourteen years ago)
a slimy ham
― the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 22:12 (fourteen years ago)
Hi, mama sly!
― macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 22:14 (fourteen years ago)
yeah xxp there is an endearing shiteatingness to that smile, in amongst the slime
― bounding (tremendoid), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 22:19 (fourteen years ago)
He looked genuinely elated in today's parade and I doubt it had much to do with electoral politics.
― A Reclaimer Hewn With (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 22:21 (fourteen years ago)
cute ladies in the crowd, huh?
― buzza, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 22:22 (fourteen years ago)
;)
He was dutifully with his wife and kid and waving at the crowd. It was a pretty joyous, raucous moment in SF.
― A Reclaimer Hewn With (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 22:23 (fourteen years ago)
The parade I mean, not necessarily his participation therein
― A Reclaimer Hewn With (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 22:24 (fourteen years ago)
how drunk was he
― the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 22:25 (fourteen years ago)
haha, how old was his wife?
― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 23:22 (fourteen years ago)
this is the wife whose humanitarian cred involved saving drowning bees, right?
― sarahel, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 23:30 (fourteen years ago)
not declaring victory yet, but declaring "confidence"...
http://sfappeal.com/news/2010/11/kamala-harris-declares-victory-in-ca-attorney-general-race.php
― the moray eels eat the (get bent), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 23:43 (fourteen years ago)
next stop: "dry and secure"
― bounding (tremendoid), Thursday, 4 November 2010 00:11 (fourteen years ago)
Harris/Cooley still up in the air, lawyering up already happening, etc. Don't hold your breath.
Fun post-mortem on where Whitman's money all went:
http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/how_the_west_was_lost.php
http://californiawatch.org/watchblog/how-losing-campaigns-spent-225-million-6395
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 November 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
Numbers as of this morning:
Kamala D. Harris (Dem) 3,349,613 45.9%Steve Cooley (Rep) 3,332,598 45.7%
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 November 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
eric garcetti sez:
Kamala Harris needs volunteers to monitor vote counting for AG--http://www.tinyurl.com/KamalaVote lawyers and non-lawyers. Sign-up now!
― underwear, i'm tearing you asunder (get bent), Saturday, 6 November 2010 01:10 (fourteen years ago)
cooley up by 35,000 now, don't really know what to make of it except lots of votes still to be countedhttp://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/attorney-general/
― buzza, Monday, 8 November 2010 05:39 (fourteen years ago)
Still back and forth with Harris/Cooley. Harris up 32,000 votes at this point but there's about 3/4 of a million votes left to review.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 November 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago)
http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2010/11/steve_cooley_loses.php
Kamala Harris Defeats Steve Cooley For California Attorney GeneralBy Gene Maddauspublished: Tue., Nov. 23 2010 @ 2:52PM
Steve Cooley went with his gut and declared victory on Election Night. His gut let him down.We've been saying for a while that the math didn't look good for Steve Cooley. But now we can go ahead and make it official.
Steve Cooley has lost. Kamala Harris will be the next attorney general of California.
Out of an abundance of laziness caution, we've held off until now. But we're getting tired of waiting for the AP to call this thing, and Eric Garcetti has already beaten us to the punch anyway.
A mathematical explanation/justification after the jump.
The Secretary of State's office has been keeping track of the uncounted ballots on its website. That report lists 394,000 untabulated votes as of this morning, but that's out of date. There are no more than 154,000 ballots remaining, and there are probably less. Update at 2:50 p.m.: With updates from four counties, there are now 124,000 ballots left, at most. (Explanation below.)
The county websites have more up-to-date figures in some cases than the Secretary of State. Using those numbers, we can say that Harris is leading by 49,535 votes. (2:50 update: 51,141 votes.) Given the geographic breakdown of the remaining uncounted ballots, we expect her to expand her lead by another 10,000 votes or so, ending up with a margin of six tenths of a percent (46.0-45.4).
In order to win the race, Cooley would have to win the remaining uncounted votes by a margin of 66-26. (Update at 2:50: Cooley would now have to win by 72-20.) The likelihood of that happening is extremely close to zero. One of his best counties was Orange County, and his margin there was only 60-31.
If we knew nothing about the remaining ballots, you might say that Cooley has at least a chance. But we do know where the ballots are coming from -- they're mostly from counties that favored Harris -- and we know that they're mostly provisionals, which have also favored Harris.
We'd expect Harris to win the remaining votes by a tally of about 50-42. That's just based on geography and doesn't factor in her advantage from provisionals.
We now have much more information about how this race will end up than the AP and the L.A. Times did when they called the governor's race for Jerry Brown at the stroke of 8 p.m. on Election Night.
It's time to call it. Harris has won.
At this point, it's less a question of math than of psychology. How long does Cooley want to go before conceding? Does Harris want to wait for him to concede before declaring victory?
The rest we're going to mark as for nerds only.
A lot of folks -- us, Garcetti, Swing State Project, and no doubt both campaigns -- have expended a lot of effort on projecting ballots county-by-county based on each candidate's performance in that county. But a much simpler and more accurate way to do it would have been to multiply the total number of uncounted ballots statewide on Election Day by 2.5%. That was Harris' margin of victory among ballots cast on Election Day.
When we did that back on Nov. 5, we came up with Harris picking up 58,349 votes on her then-lead of 12,000 votes. All along, that's been a much more accurate guess than the county-by-county estimates, because it ignored geography and focused instead on the character of ballots. As it turned out, the uncounted ballots were more or less evenly distributed throughout the state. The important difference between them and the counted ballots was that they were all cast on or near Election Day.
A word on how we arrived at the estimate of 154,000 124,000 remaining ballots. The uncounted ballot report gives the time and date that each county last reported its remaining ballots. But in most cases, counties have added ballots to the count since last reporting their remaining ballots. So we went back and looked at what their tally was when they last reported uncounted ballots, and then subtracted the number of ballots that they've counted since then from their uncounted ballot figure. That's a somewhat crude method, but it's a lot more accurate than relying on the Secretary of State's out-of-date estimate.
Using that method, we can say that the largest chunk of uncounted votes is now in Sonoma County, where they're sitting on 35,500 ballots. Just to be sure that's right, we called the Sonoma Registrar's office and were assured that they're working on it and they do intend to get those 35,500 ballots counted by the deadline. (Harris won Sonoma 57-33.)
Full disclosure for the three or four people who could possibly care: We also estimated that only 94% of remaining ballots will have a vote for attorney general (based on how it looks so far in the counties that give that figure), and that 15% of the remaining ballots will be thrown out because they're provisionals.
Update at 2:50: To the question about why 15%: We had to go with something, and 80-85% is a commonly used estimate for the percentage of provisionals that end up counting. This assumption is a relatively small source of error compared to the error we know is in the remaining ballot tally. If we change it from 85% to 100% -- which would be the assumption most favorable to Cooley at this point -- then the margin he needs drops from 72-20 to 68-24. Still an impossible hurdle. (We can tweak it in the other direction, too. At 80%, it goes to 73-18.)
― naus, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 05:13 (fourteen years ago)
Good news to have that in the bag at this point. For my money one of the key upshots is that the Prop 8 people will be left twisting in the wind again without the state backing them up.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 07:00 (fourteen years ago)
cooley concedes, kamala wins!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/11/steve-cooley-kamala-harris-attorney-general.html
― and then peaced (get bent), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
*cheers*
I love how most of the California GOP grousing is now essentially 'well we just have to be even MORE batshit now!' Have fun with that.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_Z1i8dbZcI
― I Am Kurious Assange (polyphonic), Thursday, 6 January 2011 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
raising taxes is fun I wish I could actually raise taxes
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/budget/
― iatee, Friday, 21 January 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)
wow a $10b surplus without cutting a single program
― max, Friday, 21 January 2011 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
annoying that you can only raise the gas tax up to a dollar
― iatee, Friday, 21 January 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)
Holy shit the clear answer is to raise the fuck out of those taxes.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 21 January 2011 18:19 (fourteen years ago)