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south africa's group plz

sam (jergins), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 03:29 (fifteen years ago)

so the pots aren't confirmed yet huh?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup-2010/fixtures/6637415/World-Cup-2010-draw-all-you-need-to-know.html

usa today star in the hood (jergins), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 04:32 (fifteen years ago)

USA, Englande, New Zealand, Australia

everyone stop (dan m), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 05:37 (fifteen years ago)

five-team group with Ireland

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 08:00 (fifteen years ago)

when is this?

mascara and pies (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 09:03 (fifteen years ago)

Can't wait for N. vs S. Korea

Cosmic Ugg (S-), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 09:09 (fifteen years ago)

perfect group would include usa as well

mascara and pies (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 09:10 (fifteen years ago)

+ Japan

sonderborg, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 09:29 (fifteen years ago)

Actual group: England, Paraguay, Algeria, Greece. Have the seedings been sorted out yet?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 09:30 (fifteen years ago)

lol if france are seeded

caek, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 09:34 (fifteen years ago)

BBC Radio 5 live's sports news correspondent Gordon Farquhar said: "Portugal and France are the dangerous floaters in Friday's draw."

Eeew

Teh Movable Object (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 09:43 (fifteen years ago)

The seedings are exactly who you'd expect.

I'm a little concerned that of the ten stadiums, one's a building site, two don't have pictures, and the one in Nelspruit is just a drawing.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 10:02 (fifteen years ago)

If weak qualifying groups were that much of an issue then why are Argentina seeded? France and Portugal both have a better record in recent World Cups and Argentina had a similarly ropey qualifying campaign.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 10:18 (fifteen years ago)

Argentina have been high on the ranking list throughout the period I think - I expect FIFA push that at every opportunity

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 10:29 (fifteen years ago)

shame Argentina and France have not played each other in...srsly when was the last time?

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 12:07 (fifteen years ago)

February

nearly 50 in vagina years (onimo), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 12:09 (fifteen years ago)

but in the World Cup?

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 12:12 (fifteen years ago)

1930

nearly 50 in vagina years (onimo), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 12:14 (fifteen years ago)

World Cup - Group A
Argentina 1 (0) - 0(0) France

At Montevideo, Uruguay on 15-07-1930

nearly 50 in vagina years (onimo), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 12:14 (fifteen years ago)

thx onimotson

Honduras being in pot 3 must annoy the Asian and South American teams, then again most of the pot 2 teams are shite anyway

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup-2010/fixtures/6637415/World-Cup-2010-draw-all-you-need-to-know.html

This has Honduras in Pot 4.

The World Cup is a truly International event (onimo), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 12:18 (fifteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup#Seeds

This has Honduras in Pot 2, lololol.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 12:21 (fifteen years ago)

Worst case scenario - England, Portugal, Ivory Coast, South Korea.

Ouch that would hurt.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 12:22 (fifteen years ago)

It looks like a Pot 1 is seeded then three geographically sorted pots so it doesn't matter what number they have.

The World Cup is a truly International event (onimo), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 12:24 (fifteen years ago)

South africa, Slovenia, Paraguay, Australia would be lovely thanks

sonderborg, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 12:39 (fifteen years ago)

Pots 1 and 3 uniformly strong, pots 2 and 4 all over the place. Should mean groups-of-death a-plenty, plus a few groups like ^ that one.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 12:40 (fifteen years ago)

wouldn't want Australia or Paraguay if i was a top seed

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 12:41 (fifteen years ago)

England best/dullest case: New Zealand=Nigeria-Switzerland
worst/most entertaining case: Australia-Cote d'Ivoire-France

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 12:44 (fifteen years ago)

New Zealand are in the World Cup??? I haven't been paying attention: how on earth did this happen?

Teh Movable Object (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 12:46 (fifteen years ago)

because Australia joined Asia confed basically

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 12:49 (fifteen years ago)

come on man, we had a liveblog going of NZ's crucial playoff against Bahrain a couple of weeks back

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 12:49 (fifteen years ago)

Kickoff 7am on a Saturday morning, I can't believe you weren't glued.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 12:50 (fifteen years ago)

New Zealand are in the World Cup??? I haven't been paying attention: how on earth did this happen?

Two words: Chris Killen

The World Cup is a truly International event (onimo), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 12:52 (fifteen years ago)

World Cup Draw Generator (in Spanish and w/ background music)

http://www.record.com.mx/sorteoMundial/sorteoMundial.php

I just ran the automatic generation and got USA in a group with Dennmark, Ivory Coast, and Spain; England with Serbia, Cameroon, and Australia. x_x

everyone stop (dan m), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago)

it just gave me England, USA, Ghana, France

and Argentina, Honduras, Algeria, Greece

would actually love to see the uproar if those two groups actually happened

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 22:15 (fifteen years ago)

That's not far off worst-case scenario for England

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

I'll tell you what's really hacking me off - "FIFA World Cup 2010". It's not 'FIFA World Cup', it's 'The World Cup'. Stop trying to brand it. It's good enough without you, Blatter.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 22:26 (fifteen years ago)

The voiceover on my DVD of the 2006 tourney keeps doing it too - "And it was left to Fabio Grosso to strike home the penalty that won FIFA World Cup for Italy". No he fucking didn't!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 22:28 (fifteen years ago)

i do wish people would stop with the 'France and Portugal are the teams to avoid' thing. THEY ARE BOTH SHIT TEAMS, or at least the likes of Denmark and Serbia would be just as troublesome if not more so.

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 22:41 (fifteen years ago)

Reading that ^ (two posts up), I suddenly realise I have no memory of the FIFA World Cup final apart from the Zidane headbutt. I know it was 1-1 at half-time, but I can't remember who got the goals or which team scored first or anything else that happened.

Teh Movable Object (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 22:42 (fifteen years ago)

i watched it in the house of someone who doesn't like football, surrounded by people who don't really care about football :(

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

I don't believe it's possible to forget Zidane's penalty. For about an hour-and-a-half it was the most amazing thing that ever happened.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 22:48 (fifteen years ago)

(xpost)I saw Manchester United end the 26-year wait and win the league in 1993 (or rather, I saw Oldham deny Villa the chance of winning the league) on a TV in a corridor of a deserted university building on my own on a Sunday afternoon. It was (at that time) the single most fantastic footballing moment in my life, but felt very weird.

Teh Movable Object (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 22:49 (fifteen years ago)

I have no memory of a Zidane penalty

Teh Movable Object (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 22:49 (fifteen years ago)

Though I'm the same with 1998 - shortly afterwards my pals were talking about Denilson hitting the bar and Desailly getting sent off, and I had no idea. I must've watched in a Ronaldoesque daze.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 22:50 (fifteen years ago)

Then you must remember the moment when you twigged that Italy simply had to win, because otherwise Barthez would now be the one to lift the trophy?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 22:53 (fifteen years ago)

can't remember where i saw '98 final, probably just at home. the '02 final i saw (most of) at Glastonbury.

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

Actually, I can't remember anything about FIFA 1998 either, apart from the whole fat Ronaldo saga. I mean, I know it was 3-0, but I can't remember a single thing about the game. I think the problem with FIFA World Cup is that as soon as it's finished you kind of forget it for four years (or I do, anyway).

Teh Movable Object (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago)

FIFA1998

don't toy with me, man

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 22:56 (fifteen years ago)

loved that final

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/26/46914328_60e966ef3e.jpg

mascara and pies (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 22:57 (fifteen years ago)

don't toy with me, man

Relax, dude

FIFA Brutish & Short (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 22:58 (fifteen years ago)

Heh (bastard). World Cup Finals seem to have been totally amazing until 1986, and totally shit since.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 23:02 (fifteen years ago)

2006 World Cup - as remembered by me

1) England were rubbish and struggled against various nonentities. Joe Cole got a good goal. We lost to Portugal again, after the Rooney-Ronaldo thing.

2) The end of Australia v Japan was very exciting.

3) Italy were very lucky to get out of the group stage and there was something dramatic involving the USA, but I forget the details

4) Argentina 6 Serbia (or whatever they were called) 0 (was it 0?) was one of the greatest displays of football I've seen. Possibly.

5) Two last gasp Italian goals against Germany.

The rest has gone.

FIFA Brutish & Short (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 23:04 (fifteen years ago)

http://sizeablekmoney.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/zidane_headbutt.jpg
http://www.manzullo.org/Contact/question_mark.jpg

mascara and pies (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 23:08 (fifteen years ago)

TheYhe Italy-Germany semi was a privilege to be alive for. So, in a different way, was Holland-Portugal. A tiny landmark was Ghana and Cote d'Ivoire being African sides it was impossible to patronise.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 23:09 (fifteen years ago)

(HoyHoy - I refer you to my original post at 22.42)

FIFA Brutish & Short (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 23:10 (fifteen years ago)

Ah! Holland-Portugal was the yellow card frenzy, wasn't it?

FIFA Brutish & Short (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

Haha, it's really funny seeing you people not remembering anything about 98 and 06 WC since I can remember them very clearly. But I'm french, so obviously I would! The one that needs to be forgotten is really the 02 one tho, that one was truly awful (and I'm not saying that cos France sucked... I mean honestly that final was a bore too for ex).

Jibe, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

something dramatic involving the USA

Italian own goal, red cards to both sides IIRC. Ended 1-1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXHCbIBEhc0

everyone stop (dan m), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

you could always read the dozen or so wc06 threads for a memory jog

i remember it well partly cos i got to go out there for a bit altho the match i saw was probably the dullest not to involve england

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 23:15 (fifteen years ago)

i do wish people would stop with the 'France and Portugal are the teams to avoid' thing. THEY ARE BOTH SHIT TEAMS, or at least the likes of Denmark and Serbia would be just as troublesome if not more so.

Nah, qualifying records don't mean shit as soon as the finals begin, I would MUCH rather get Denmark or Serbia than either France or Portugal, both of whom have a habit of a) going a long way in international tournaments and b) beating England. And both do have great players.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 23:24 (fifteen years ago)

Argentina v Mexico in 2006 was also a really great game IIRC.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 23:24 (fifteen years ago)

ah yes - Kily Gonzalez(?) scored a staggering goal

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 23:31 (fifteen years ago)

Jared Borgetti scored an absolutely incredible header against I think Italy, though that might have been 2002 possibly

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 23:33 (fifteen years ago)

yeah dude getting a team that has ribery or ronaldo != getting a team that has bendtner or tosic

mascara and pies (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 23:48 (fifteen years ago)

Don't worry about a team with Ribery, cos hey Domenech still hasn't found a proper way for France to play with Gorcuff and Ribery and Henry.
Also, France is frightening, you never know when they will act like cheating bastards to beat you... (and they have Platini behind the scenes to help them pull through whatever happens)

Jibe, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 23:56 (fifteen years ago)

ok but ribery/gourcuff/anelka are 3 of the 20 best players in the world right now, no matter how retarded domenech is and i'd prefer not to draw them

mascara and pies (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 23:59 (fifteen years ago)

I would MUCH rather get Denmark or Serbia than either France or Portugal, both of whom have a habit of a) going a long way in international tournaments and b) beating England. And both do have great players.

as far as England go i think they're all equally good for a dragged out draw. at least getting Portugal in the group would mean not going out on penalties to them (bar the highly unlikely event of a meeting in the last 4). granted many people are now expecting Fra and Por to perform like they did in 02 so that's too predictable but both getting thru is still hard to envisage - if they had been top seeds it may be different.

would like to avoid Paraguay too because zzzzzz and they do look better than 4 years ago

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 3 December 2009 00:03 (fifteen years ago)

Ribery Gourcuff Anelka are all good, no denying that. But having seen all their qualification games, I can assure you that sadly that's not enough. We're talking abou a team that barely scraped through 1-0 against Lithuania, struggled to beat Feroe, was beaten by Austria. These guys have the talent to do something, but they can't seem to be able to do anything together. But hey, I hope the old cliche difficult qualification round- good competition will come through once again :D

Jibe, Thursday, 3 December 2009 00:09 (fifteen years ago)

let's see. best: south africa, usa, algeria, greece. worst: brazil, usa, ivory coast, portugal

usa today star in the neighborhood (jergins), Thursday, 3 December 2009 06:21 (fifteen years ago)

Where should a n00b get his WC news online? From the US but not particularly interested in endless "Jozy set to break out in 2010" stories.

This part of the sentence is even dumber. (lukas), Thursday, 3 December 2009 06:59 (fifteen years ago)

...but I would like good coverage of the USMNT.

This part of the sentence is even dumber. (lukas), Thursday, 3 December 2009 07:06 (fifteen years ago)

...and a pony. Oh well. Which angle do you think ESPN will push on his Hull City run? "frustrated" "undaunted"

This part of the sentence is even dumber. (lukas), Thursday, 3 December 2009 07:21 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.goal.com/en/ is pretty great for all football news, incl. world cup

mascara and pies (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 3 December 2009 09:04 (fifteen years ago)

ty

This part of the sentence is even dumber. (lukas), Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:31 (fifteen years ago)

I was wrong up there about Argentina's wonder goal - it was Maxi Rodriguez, not Kily Gonzalez. I'm delighted to see that Holland-Portugal earned both its own wikipedia entry and a nickname, which in my view is the highest accolade a match can get: The Battle of Nuremberg

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:53 (fifteen years ago)

Not to be confused with the 1632 military engagement The Siege of Nuremberg.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:54 (fifteen years ago)

It wasn't even a battle, it was just ineptly refereed - The Battle of Nuremberg, that is, not the Siege of Nuremberg. I remember watching it and thinking it was a farce - The Battle of etc

E Poxy Thee Thule (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:56 (fifteen years ago)

I was quite annoyed by it at the time (2006, not 1632). Obviously taking my football more seriously in those days. I think the players stopped taking it seriously midway through too - I'm pretty sure Deco exaggerated his own scythe at van Bommel or whoever just to troll the ref.

I wonder if the other legendary scenes of footy carnage were just a joke at the time too? The Battle of Santiago, the Siege of Highbury, etc.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 3 December 2009 13:08 (fifteen years ago)

A real battle

E Poxy Thee Thule (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 December 2009 13:09 (fifteen years ago)

Crikey. I was amused by the 'protracted boxing match', but the rest of it isn't so funny. Foreign ref losing control in my view.

I read somewhere after the Egypt-Algeria playoff that all the blood stems (among other things) from an Algeria player blinding the Egyptian team doctor after a previous game between the two. That's going too far in my book.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 3 December 2009 13:21 (fifteen years ago)

all the bad blood, obviously

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 3 December 2009 13:22 (fifteen years ago)

How did we get from that noble chain of battle nicknames to 'pizzagate'? 'The battle of extra cheese' would've been just fine.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 3 December 2009 13:32 (fifteen years ago)

Any idea what time the draw actually begins tonight? As opposed to the fannydangle before it? I have to time my trip from office to pub impeccably.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Friday, 4 December 2009 09:43 (fifteen years ago)

Bloke on the news this morning said 6pm-ish our time I think.

SBanned of Brothers (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 December 2009 09:48 (fifteen years ago)

dunno but its a football group draw... there is never any fun from actually watching them. but the fact that the ceremony starts at 5 and the bbc coverage starts at 5.15 could mean you miss some of the pretentious shite

mascara and pies (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 09:48 (fifteen years ago)

But the pretentious shite is what brings the lollery

SBanned of Brothers (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 December 2009 09:50 (fifteen years ago)

I like the feeling of being in the pub and sharing the feeling of "yes!" or "oh shit" or "lol France".

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Friday, 4 December 2009 10:08 (fifteen years ago)

Sitting in the pub in 1997 and everyone pointing and laughing when Scotland drew Brazil is still one of my fondest memories.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Friday, 4 December 2009 10:09 (fifteen years ago)

The preliminaries can go on for about an hour at these things. During research for a previous post I discovered that even the final gets preliminaries now - has it been ever thus? Shakira and Wyclef performed before the last one.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 10:15 (fifteen years ago)

It probably has, actually - I remember Ricky Martin doing some terrible song before a game once (not even one of his famous ones, it was just filler or a b-side or something)

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 10:17 (fifteen years ago)

"the cup of life" was the official song of the 1998 world cup.

Pedro Paramore (jim), Friday, 4 December 2009 11:02 (fifteen years ago)

bombs

moullet, Friday, 4 December 2009 11:10 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/8391833.stm why are the bbc liveblogging six hours before the ceremony? jeez.

mascara and pies (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 12:30 (fifteen years ago)

in case Ireland sneak their balls into the pot. begorrah.

DRUNK SWEDISH CHINTZ (Upt0eleven), Friday, 4 December 2009 12:33 (fifteen years ago)

Has Ireland's request been officially rejected then?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 12:39 (fifteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9e/Zakumi.jpg

I quite like the androgynous mascot they've come up with

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 12:42 (fifteen years ago)

how could it ever have worked? i kinda like Liam Brady's 'we might as well ask anyway they can only say no...and then blab to the media about it' approach tho. xp

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 12:44 (fifteen years ago)

still love that we put this up like a week before the game

http://theblogpaper.co.uk/files/imagecache/photostory_image/files/artic_p/199452820090925.jpg

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 12:47 (fifteen years ago)

This draw will shape the long-term direction of English football, pointing the motherland of the game towards sun-lit heights or the depths of despair.

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

also who is in the group next door (2nd round opponents)

btw who has ever gone out at the quarter-final stage three times in a row?

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

1538: We mentioned it earlier, but the actress Charlize Theron, who is co-hosting the World Cup draw, reportedly pulled out a ball and said "Ireland" instead of "France" during rehearsals on Friday. Fifa General Secretary Jerome Valcke stressed that it was 'only a joke'.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 4 December 2009 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

Alan Hansen on England's World Cup hopes: "I think England have got major problems - obviously in goal, at centre-forward and now at centre-back too, so right down the spine of the team. Unless they can eradicate those problems, it's very difficult to see how they can go on and win the World Cup."

The World Cup is a truly International event (onimo), Friday, 4 December 2009 16:30 (fifteen years ago)

US Group "can't be tougher than its Confed Cup draw

oh Luis Buenopaws

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 16:32 (fifteen years ago)

Hansen is usually talking England up so this is welcome refreshment

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 16:35 (fifteen years ago)

I dunno, I remember when Frank Skinner sang about "throw it away", the video cut to a downlooking Alan Hansen, mouthing the words in some interview footage...

Mark G, Friday, 4 December 2009 16:38 (fifteen years ago)

Hansen doesn't care about England, you can tell when they show the reaction in the studio whenever England score. Also him being Scottish and everything.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Friday, 4 December 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago)

I've heard some Scottish people speculate that he's gone native but I don't see it.

The World Cup is a truly International event (onimo), Friday, 4 December 2009 16:43 (fifteen years ago)

I dunno I remember his delight when England beat Argentina in that friendly 4 years ago - and it wasn't a defensive classic

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:00 (fifteen years ago)

Alexi Lolas and unnamed English pundit gettin' snarky on each other as Efan Ekoku looks on

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:11 (fifteen years ago)

It'd've taken one self-important, joyless Scrooge not to have delighted in that game though. Oh, right.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 17:13 (fifteen years ago)

Any sign of this getting into gear? I'm about a half-hour from home (if this blasted train would get going)

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 17:15 (fifteen years ago)

Still nothing but talking here.

btw "unnamed English pundit" = Steve McManaman

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:23 (fifteen years ago)

"need all the best players there" is stupid, y or n?

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:26 (fifteen years ago)

Hell y

SBanned of Brothers (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:28 (fifteen years ago)

i have the sound off here. pls can ilx provide subtitles because I'd hate to be missing out on Alan Shearer's insights into pulling balls out of bowls.

DRUNK SWEDISH CHINTZ (Upt0eleven), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:31 (fifteen years ago)

"wayne rooney is a big factor"

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:32 (fifteen years ago)

"we've always suffered injuries at bad times"

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:32 (fifteen years ago)

beckham lost the beard and accidentally shaved the sides of his head at the same time

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago)

y has england not produced a player w/ beckhams technique in 15 years

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:38 (fifteen years ago)

not asked by bbc still talking in cliches

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:38 (fifteen years ago)

oh joy gabby logan

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:38 (fifteen years ago)

http://willthomasonline.net/willthomasonline/Cell_Phone_Antiphony/IMAG019.JPG

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

would prefer to be watching charlize and sepp love time

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

y has england not produced a player w/ beckhams technique in 15 years

FA decided it was more important to teach 5 year-olds to win at all costs

SBanned of Brothers (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

ESPN has a reporter in a bar in NYC who are chanting "We want England" and listening to a band called "Group of Death".

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:41 (fifteen years ago)

south africa suck so we are going to patronise them

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:43 (fifteen years ago)

nelson mandela snore

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:44 (fifteen years ago)

*filled with people who are chanting...

xps

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:44 (fifteen years ago)

colonialist cerimony, looking at africa like ONE COUNTRY makes me ill

moullet, Friday, 4 December 2009 17:45 (fifteen years ago)

is this on anything on anything other than news24?

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 17:47 (fifteen years ago)

in the UK, i mean

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 17:47 (fifteen years ago)

watching on bbc football site

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

bbc2

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:49 (fifteen years ago)

right you are

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

news24 was pretty bad.

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

only watching this for the Soweto Gospel Choir tbh

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

soweto gospel choir more insightful than alan shearer. dressed like mad men extras.

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:51 (fifteen years ago)

charlize theron ws that english retard

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:52 (fifteen years ago)

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/shot0002.png

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 17:53 (fifteen years ago)

TINY TEDDY

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:53 (fifteen years ago)

theron obviously never given a shit about soccerball until they handed her the check. guys she is hosting with is a right http://burythehammer.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/shemale.jpg?w=300&h=214

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:55 (fifteen years ago)

wish someone would just get diego some coke to spice this up

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:56 (fifteen years ago)

Charlize really getting into this, learning a lot

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:57 (fifteen years ago)

having different colour balls=ummm... not gonna quash 'its rigged' rumours

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:57 (fifteen years ago)

Serious business.

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 17:57 (fifteen years ago)

I don't understand any of this, btw.

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 17:58 (fifteen years ago)

and just because http://burythehammer.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/poof.jpg?w=510&h=284

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:58 (fifteen years ago)

they take balls out of pots. european teams allowed to have 2 in a group, but no other continent allowed more than 1 in each...

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:59 (fifteen years ago)

*whoosh*

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:00 (fifteen years ago)

Jeez, Charlize is stupid

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:01 (fifteen years ago)

haile selasse is drawing pots!

things that make you go (hmmmm), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:01 (fifteen years ago)

its acting, Ismael

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:02 (fifteen years ago)

i'm watching this with a guy from Zim, who's positively beaming with pride. hard to be completely cynical when you see how much this whole think can mean to a continent.

DRUNK SWEDISH CHINTZ (Upt0eleven), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:02 (fifteen years ago)

http://liverun.blogtv.uol.com.br/img/Image/LiveRun/2008/Outubro/Haile_Gebrselassie.jpg

and some bald chick and beckham pick balls

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago)

"HEY SWEETHEART, (CALL ME)"

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago)

Beckham looks like Travis Bickle going for an interview for an office job

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago)

Group A: South Africa
B: Argies
C: Englishers
D: Nazis
E: Stoned Hookers
F: Luca Toni and Friends
G: RIP Ronniedinho
H: RIP Raul

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago)

good luck usa

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago)

mexico gets lucky!

things that make you go (hmmmm), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:08 (fifteen years ago)

South Africa-Mexico in the 'group of piss'

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:08 (fifteen years ago)

ok, completely lost now

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:08 (fifteen years ago)

so England v Germany is a potential 2nd round tie?

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:08 (fifteen years ago)

good group

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:08 (fifteen years ago)

My stream died :(

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:09 (fifteen years ago)

BOOM

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:09 (fifteen years ago)

BLAMMO - USA V ENGLAND

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:09 (fifteen years ago)

LOLas: NICE

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:09 (fifteen years ago)

Group of ILX microcosm!

things that make you go (hmmmm), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:09 (fifteen years ago)

First game too.

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:10 (fifteen years ago)

Who was drawn before USA?

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:10 (fifteen years ago)

south korea

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:10 (fifteen years ago)

south korea

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:10 (fifteen years ago)

oh man our group is gonna be usa, ivory coast and france isnt it

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:11 (fifteen years ago)

this is the most painful banter

things that make you go (hmmmm), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:11 (fifteen years ago)

Dutch v. Japan gonna be fun

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:11 (fifteen years ago)

calling a last minute Altidore equaliser now

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:11 (fifteen years ago)

Charlize can be quite the flirt

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:12 (fifteen years ago)

are n korea any good?

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:12 (fifteen years ago)

How would anyone know? The players haven't been cloned yet

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:13 (fifteen years ago)

they'd give Bolton a battle

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:13 (fifteen years ago)

n korea? lol

brazil never gets a tough group NEVER

moullet, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago)

Argentina v Nigeria shades of 94

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

group b looking good

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

drogba v. kaka fun times

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

CdI out of the way thank fuck

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

boom

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

Right, I actually don't understand why Cote d'Ivoire didn't get put in England's group

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

brazil v. ivory coast = goalfest

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

algeria

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

Algeria for group C

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

xxxp.,because england's group is c, but argentina's is b

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

France with England, Algeria and USA would be pretty awesome now

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

algeria thank you prince phillip

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:17 (fifteen years ago)

brazil never gets a tough group NEVER

lol @ myself xd

moullet, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:17 (fifteen years ago)

URUGUAY ABANTE!!!

moullet, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:17 (fifteen years ago)

rare for Mexico to get a South American team in the group, could be interesting

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

I'm loving Beckham's role here - his banter is exactly as inane and nervous as any of ours would be

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

sa/mehico/uruguay could be good viewing, even if it doesnt involve the best players. sure shearer will be disappointed tho

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

these groups looking good so far, although no obv. 'group of death' yet

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

although no obv. 'group of death' yet

Group D imo

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

Wait a minute: Nigeria were first out and went into B so as not to meet South Africa. Then CdI came out and skipped all the way to G, instead of just going into C. Why was that?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

And who cares?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

dutchs japon camaroon lol

moullet, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

France with England, Algeria and USA would be pretty awesome now

Post-colonial grudgefest

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

i think charlize has had enough

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

N'lands v Cameroon could be fun.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

lolz

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

that'll teach Henry

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

are ghana actually good or are we just assuming essien is their maradona circa 86

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

bah not too bad for France

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

france are going to win this, aren't they?

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

lol at theron's attempted zing

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

B and G looking tough

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

get in

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

Slovenia for group C, wow

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

GOOD JOB EVERYBODY

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

piece of piss group yay

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

USA should fancy their chances frankly

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago)

ILX got to be happy with that group

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago)

Group D, though

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago)

south africa will never classify

moullet, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago)

wait, didn't we just play them in a friendly

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago)

Group D is killer

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago)

group d actually looking good yeah

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago)

mixed result for australia

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago)

oh, Slovakia

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago)

group e just looks like arsenal players injuring each other ;_;

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago)

1806: Jonathan Pearce reckons England cannot play Argentina until the final now.

The World Cup is a truly International event (onimo), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago)

Looking forward to Laibach doing the official Slovenian team song.

Stevie T, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago)

LOL

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

beautiful

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

pretty good for Italy - Paraguay and Slovakia going thru instead would be hilarious tho

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

south africa will never classify

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domenechs france, the mexico that found it hard to qualify and uruguay? good group for them actually

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

North Korea thinking FUCK THIS

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

I bet Paraguay can beat Italy at their own game

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

would love north korea to go through, for ultimate lols

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

Group H will not be bringing the thrills

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

OMG GGGGGGG

moullet, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:26 (fifteen years ago)

Feeling pretty sorry for Ivory Coast, didnt they have a really tough group last time? Should be exciting tho

The nation's most valiant right back (Suedey 2), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

would like to see Argentina v France in 2nd round, but then one of them could meet England in quarter-final if usual structure applies no?

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

Group H: Spain, Switzerland, Honduras, Chile

Group G: Brazil, North Korea, Ivory Coast, Portugal (New Group of Death)

Group F: Italy, Paraguay, New Zealand, Slovakia

Group E: Netherlands, Denmark, Japan, Cameroon

Group D: Germany, Australia, Serbia Ghana (Group of Death?)

Group C: ENGLAND, United States, Algeria, Slovenia

Group B: Argentina, Nigeria, South Korea, Greece

Group A: South Africa, Mexico, Uruguay, France

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

"mexicans" just sounds so hateful amirite

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

Oh god let the USA England shit talking commence, ESPN is obviously banking on this already.

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

or is it A1 vs C2, B1 vs D2 etc.?

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

couldn't have gone much better, tbh. only disapointment is france's draw which will get them to the QFs no bother.

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

beckhams blue shirt w/ white collar looks as horrible as his haircut

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

A1 vs. B2 iirc

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

which is why england didn't want portugal in D

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

Is the backing music 'King of the Mountain'?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

A1 vs B2, B1 vs A2 I think so Argentina vs France and England vs Germany could happen.

The World Cup is a truly International event (onimo), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

anyone got a wall poster type thing with 'a1 v. b2 winner plays winner of c1 v. d2' or whatever?

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

Has Motty been retired from the big events? I'll be gutted if Pearce is doing the final.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_schedule

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

these guys work fast

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

potential 2nd round

France v Argentina
Nigeria v Mexico
England v Ghana
Germany v USA
Cameroon v Slovakia
Italy v Netherlands
Brazil v Chile
Spain v Ivory Coast

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_cup_2010#Knockout_stage

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

What possessed Lineker to think 'day one goatee' was the look to go for?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

demeaning africans again well done alan

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

I like how Motty brings the facts, and the others just mumble agreement

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

already too excited about this. always do this.

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

anyone know anything about slovenia? motty says they have a west brom player so

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

oh what did Shearer say? always looking for new reasons to hate him

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

The hosts have never failed to get out the group. Even Japan managed it.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:35 (fifteen years ago)

try not to remember. "oh wow they have pitches" i think about algeria

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:35 (fifteen years ago)

Mcmanaman says best way to beat England is "to work hard".

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

the (fairly hackneyed) phrase "group of death" seems a little wrong and lol when north korea are in it.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

wow, that's a soft group for spain

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:38 (fifteen years ago)

"Don't underestimate Cote d'Ivoire ... Ivory Coast' "Easy for you to say"

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:38 (fifteen years ago)

D is the group of death! Jeez, these guys know nothing!

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

18/1 for france hmmmm

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:40 (fifteen years ago)

Was thinking the same.

Lineker just called it "Serie Eh". He definitely knows it's not called that.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:40 (fifteen years ago)

Weird that the bookmakers just cut England's chances. That's a pretty good group, methinks.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:41 (fifteen years ago)

wondering which was worse: Charlize's banter or the BBC stuff

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

its like they have forgotten how to host, sooooo much dead sound and no-one talking

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

ESPN has gone back to the pundit desk, w/ surprisingly complete coverage of all groups.

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:43 (fifteen years ago)

fabiano 16/1 top goalscorer also looks v. tasty

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:43 (fifteen years ago)

shearer was on newsround today, i thought i was going to meet him for a second due to having to do something near where the interview was but then it didn't happen. can't think what i'd have done.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

Weird that the bookmakers just cut England's chances. That's a pretty good group, methinks.

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Do you mean England's odds are longer because they've got a tough group or their odds a shorter because they've got an easy group?

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

66/1 forlan tg? 3 or 4 in the easy group stage, maybe 1 or 2 after that?

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:46 (fifteen years ago)

william hill has portugal at 25/1 and ronaldo knows how to maradona a team to win shit on his own

need to stop looking this early before i bet on people and they break their legs in may

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

Portugal will not win it. I have Brazil as favourites; England, Spain and Cote d'Ivoire as next choices. And France just because they're totally unpredictable. I don't think anyone else is good enough.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

ivory coast at 33/1 look good too

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:52 (fifteen years ago)

if you are counting france as unpredictable, why not a team with messi and kun?

cant count out the germans cliche

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

has potential to be a fucking awesome world cup basically but it wont so i am not gonna get excited

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

Holy shit, is it June yet. Now? What about now, is it June now?

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

Now?

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

Bob Bradley actually *smiled* when talking about playing England. Right back to steely-eyed emotionless stare thereafter.

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

if you are counting france as unpredictable, why not a team with messi and kun?

Not based on personnel, but on history and something like national character. France are like Pakistan at cricket or, uh, France at rugby - alternately genius and shocking, and no way to know which one's going to turn up. I can also imagine France's players collectively covering for and then overruling/ignoring Domenech, can't see Argentina's doing that for Maradona.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

I really hope the US shows up to this WC.

I guess I never realized how valuable McBride was for us.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 4 December 2009 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

They're talking to Mexico's coach Javier Aguirre at the moment and Domenech interrupted the interview to say "good luck". When Aguirre came back he said "I just met him today".

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

guardian wall chart (with observer font?)

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Guardian/documents/2009/12/04/WC2010_WALLCHART_0510.pdf

caek, Friday, 4 December 2009 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

that wall chart is horrible. i want something i can have as my pc wallpaper and can actually read without zooming 4000 times. also dont care where each game is held. basically want a wallchart from the sun

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

Even assuming the US manage to finish second in C, they will die at the hands of anybody who can get out of D.

G v H has possibility of an Iberian derby or Spain v Brazil, either of which could be highly entertaining.

France v Argentina, A v B, would be pretty fun, too.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

I want a spreadsheet that will show me what would happen should Honduras beat Spain 5-1.

Madchen, Friday, 4 December 2009 21:05 (fifteen years ago)

Apocalypto

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

ummm usa beat spain this summer and have l0u1s jagg3r in their team, they arent exactly retarded

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

Even assuming the US manage to finish second in C, they will die at the hands of anybody who can get out of D.

So they'll just have to win Group C I guess? At any rate: there are no easy games.

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:25 (fifteen years ago)

except new zealand and south africa and north korea and algeria and possibly italy depending on whether they want to bring the lols or not

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

ouch, tough group for Australia. Potential second round vs England is awesome though

sonderborg, Friday, 4 December 2009 21:32 (fifteen years ago)

that article is hilarious in its lack of understanding two teams from the group go through.

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:36 (fifteen years ago)

I like Bradley but I got no indication during the qualification campaign that the team has really gelled. There were moments of exceptional grit but moments of lack of concentration. I think we are quickly prone to lose confidence and we are still far too weak in the back for my liking. Based on the extremely little I know about Algeria (They made it to the WC and the game against Egypt, which I saw), I think the US, on a good day, could beat them. Slovenia could go either way. I would think a draw vs. Capello's England a very good result, if they could pull that off.

So even assuming that the fates smile on them and they get through, they're likely to face Germany, which isn't terrible, really. The U.S. at least understands German soccer. They may not be able to beat it, but they understand how to prepare for it. If, by chance we played Ghana, I don't know how that would play out. I imagine there's still some revenge sought for the last WC.

It's kind of a pity that US vs. Australia is such a distant possibility. It would be fun to see two post-Anglo countries play, neither of which shares the 'mother' county's enthusiasm for soccer.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:43 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.burdenclothing.com/pages/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/soc_a_gaetjens_576.jpg

I'd totally forgotten that there's a history here. Love this photo.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 21:59 (fifteen years ago)

What is that, Ismael?

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 4 December 2009 22:05 (fifteen years ago)

It's Joe Gaetjens being carried from the field after scoring the winning goal v England in 1950. I love the way he looks there, like a conquering boxer, or maybe an Emperor with that sash. I'd never seen the widescreen version before I searched for it just now, I think maybe it's been touched up for an ad campaign. Lovely image anyway.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 22:22 (fifteen years ago)

totally Netflixing The Game Of Their Lives soon

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 22:23 (fifteen years ago)

Ah! What a story!

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 4 December 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago)

I hardly know anything about US soccer history, but I poked about in it once and it was like discovering an amazing lost world. Check out Hakoah Vienna and their New York/Brooklyn descendants too. I'd love it if these ancient clubs could be revived, and see if the folk memory is still there.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 22:39 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, there's a lot of interesting stuff out there. New York Hakoah won the Open Cup (our FA Cup equivalent) in the 20s, I think. The history of the Open Cup tournament alone is pretty amazing.

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 22:48 (fifteen years ago)

let's make sure we do a wallchart thread

do you want to be happier? (whatever), Friday, 4 December 2009 23:10 (fifteen years ago)

Getting back to the USA's chances, I'm cautiously optimistic. They're not the kind of team that can completely dominate a game at this level, no matter who the opponent is (OK, maybe like NZ or SA but I would end the list there). A draw with England would be perfectly acceptable. A scrappy, scrappy win is the only way I see USA prevailing, which would be a miracle on par withbigger than beating Spain in the Confeds Cup semi. Beating Slovenia and Algeria is very doable, but will take a real team effort. I would not be surprised to see USA advance on goal differential like in the Confeds Cup.

A lot of people hate Bradley but I like him, the dude is like Capt. Picard after he came back from living among the Borg. Everything is methodical and logical and I get a feeling that even if he doesn't do well this Cup his program would win it all given a long enough timeline. Thankfully no-one has patience for that.

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 23:10 (fifteen years ago)

One of the great unheralded subplots of this World Cup is going to be the North Korean media facing its greatest challenge yet. We're going to see a whole trove of stories about how the August Wave of People Prosperity Power valiantly sacrificed itself 4-0 to a laughably inferior Ivory Coast team in order to demonstrate the glorious sportsmanship of the scientific and militant youth fraternity of the Juche. The human creativity on display will verge on the science-fictional. We could see a movie about this one day.

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 23:36 (fifteen years ago)

Wait a minute: Nigeria were first out and went into B so as not to meet South Africa. Then CdI came out and skipped all the way to G, instead of just going into C. Why was that?

― Ismael Klata, Friday, December 4, 2009 6:19 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/finaldraw/01/14/22/91/fwc2010%5ffinal%5fdraw%5fprocedure%5fen%5f021209.pdf

do you want to be happier? (whatever), Friday, 4 December 2009 23:38 (fifteen years ago)

A huge stroke of luck for England/USA, that.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 December 2009 23:52 (fifteen years ago)

cautiously optimistic that Chile could advance through the group stages.

Pedro Paramore (jim), Saturday, 5 December 2009 00:51 (fifteen years ago)

completely convinced that they'll get pumped by Spain.

Pedro Paramore (jim), Saturday, 5 December 2009 00:51 (fifteen years ago)

lol Sun front page :

England
Algeria
Slovenia
Yanks

zappi, Saturday, 5 December 2009 00:56 (fifteen years ago)

just saw the draw, that's ridiculous group for UK. a bit unlucky for South Africa, compared to Germany's group in 06

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 5 December 2009 01:26 (fifteen years ago)

UK didn't qualify yo

jabba hands, Saturday, 5 December 2009 01:27 (fifteen years ago)

uhh you're right :( maybe next time

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 5 December 2009 01:31 (fifteen years ago)

thx for clearing up whether we'd played slovenia or slovakia in that recent friendly, dan m. i couldn't remember either.

australia and japan-teams i have a little bit of rooting interest in-seem screwed

jergins, Saturday, 5 December 2009 04:49 (fifteen years ago)

Group H: Spain, Switzerland, Honduras, Chile:
This shoudl be a piece of piss for Spain but reasonably even elsewhere? Anyone could come second.

Group G: Brazil, North Korea, Ivory Coast, Portugal (New Group of Death)
Group of ALL DIVING ALL THE TIME more like. Actually this is a hell of a group, could be really exciting. Terrific players, UNKNOWN QUANTITY in North Korea, postcolonial subplot and the distinct possibility of Cote D'Ivoire getting out of there at Portugal's expense.

Group F: Italy, Paraguay, New Zealand, Slovakia
Easy for Italy surely? Slovakia probably have one mercurial genius we've never heard of though.

Group E: Netherlands, Denmark, Japan, Cameroon
Boring.

Group D: Germany, Australia, Serbia Ghana (Group of Death?)
I was thinking this was possibly the hardest group and then remembered Australia are probably a bit rubbish now. Serbia and Ghana could be much stronger than people expect.

Group C: ENGLAND, United States, Algeria, Slovenia
Lololol easy. If we don't get out of that group we deserve to be banned from all future international tournaments.

Group B: Argentina, Nigeria, South Korea, Greece
Group of 'it depends which team turn up on the day' with the possible exception of Greece who will grind out a succession of 1-0 victories against talented but inconsistent opposition and finish top.

Group A: South Africa, Mexico, Uruguay, France
Bollocks, really wanted France to go out in the first round. Maybe they will, as the host nation always goes through (although maybe not when they are as bad as South Africa) and Mexico are required by law to go out in the second round of every World Cup ever.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Saturday, 5 December 2009 12:43 (fifteen years ago)

Group A: South Africa, Mexico, Uruguay, France is the one downside of a fairytale draw imo.

caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 13:33 (fifteen years ago)

H: agree, but Chile should be second if they turn up
G: very interesting. A lot depends on the mentality of 'the other big two'. Probably Portugal to go out, but a small chance it could be Brazil - we're just assuming they know how to do first rounds
F: I suspect Italy are just waiting to be found out. This isn't the group to do it though. Hope NZ get a goal somewhere
E: au contraire. Could see Netherlands being turned over if they don't turn up from the off. Don't fancy Japan's chances much
D: proper group of death this. Suspect Australia and Germany will be a bit stronger, and Ghana and Serbia a bit weaker, than expected. Three-way scrap for second.
C: easy. Hope the US do themselves justice
B: agree, anything could happen. Couldn't have gone better for Argentina really
A: massive groan from me when France came out. On the other hand, SA aren't good enough to be seeds so it just evens things up a bit. I'd love to see Mexico to believe in themselves for once

Overall, looks fairly predictable, but I don't mind that if it leads to a belter of a second round. A lot could depend on whether the big boys take a rest in game three - I haven't checked who'd benefit if Spain, England, etc. breeze through their openers.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 December 2009 13:44 (fifteen years ago)

H: Spain will piss that group and whoever finishes second is fucked anyway so big whoop
G: Or Cote d'Ivoire cd go thru at Brazil's expense. Group of Death imo
F: Italy no probs and for the rest see group H
E: Even the Netherland's legendary capacity for self-destructing and hating the shit out of each other shd see them thru this no probs
D: Bollocks this group will suck Germany with 9 points no probs Australia second I'm guessing
C: Shouldn't be an ish for England but tbh USA and Algeria have got a potential banana skin look about them plus I can hear the "lol 1950" commentator cliches already
B: Other Group of Death I think, Greece and South Korea both capable of boring the opposition into submission and who knows what'll happen rilly. Nigeria cd go either way I'm guessing
A: lol France out

SBanned of Brothers (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 December 2009 13:51 (fifteen years ago)

Don't think D is a group of death. Germany shouldn't even be seeded, and none of the other teams are quarter final material. It's a very difficult group to predict though, agreed.

caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 13:52 (fifteen years ago)

I thought Italy got found out in Euro 2008?

Surely we are all overrating Australia? Who do they have who's that good nowadays, goalkeeper aside? I would expect the USA to be better, even.

Are dudes up there underrating Brazil? I was under the impression that they were brilliant again?

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Saturday, 5 December 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago)

Not really underrating Brazil but I think it's a tough-looking group, especially if North Korea are all well-organized and cagey which I suspect they will, and a tough group doesn't give teams much time to get into form.

SBanned of Brothers (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 December 2009 16:44 (fifteen years ago)

brilliant but a bit boring

italy- hmm, in balotelli/rossi they finally might have some great forwards for the first time in 10 yrs?

Wee xx (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 5 December 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago)

H: Spain will piss that group and whoever finishes second is fucked anyway so big whoop

who do second place in this group play? :'-(

Pedro Paramore (jim), Saturday, 5 December 2009 16:48 (fifteen years ago)

Brazil most likely

mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 5 December 2009 17:11 (fifteen years ago)

Why no "group of death"-like epithets for E? One fave, three more or less even... Haven't paid attention to JPN or CAM for many many years though; they may be rub. Still... Denmark OUT!

anatol_merklich, Sunday, 6 December 2009 04:46 (fifteen years ago)

Japan no longer have anyone Europe cares about (previously: Nakata, Nakamura) and Cameroon found it very hard to qualify for the ACN let alone the World Cup and still see Rigobert Song as their rock in defence

a kun hoy (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 6 December 2009 09:33 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah Cameroon are quoted at something like 750-1 I think.

SBanned of Brothers (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 December 2009 10:07 (fifteen years ago)

especially if North Korea are all well-organized and cagey which I suspect they will

I was under the impression from the reported Sven approach that well-organised was the one thing they weren't. They've recently lost to Iran, Thailand and Zambia so it looks more likely that they'll end up being Saudi Arabia-style whipping boys.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Sunday, 6 December 2009 11:44 (fifteen years ago)

Totalitarianism doesn't work, unless Capello's in charge.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 December 2009 12:18 (fifteen years ago)

Australia to finish second in Group D, will destroy England in the Round of 16 on the happiest day of my life.

Worse Lieutenant (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 08:26 (fifteen years ago)

see, gloating about cricket rugby netball is one thing, but ^ this sort of thing is just plain weird

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 09:37 (fifteen years ago)

As an aside, are you looking forward to Australia hosting the 2018 World Cup?

Worse Lieutenant (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 09:46 (fifteen years ago)

it's cool bro rugby league won't let it happen

jabba hands, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 10:01 (fifteen years ago)

Who gives a shit about Rugby League?

Worse Lieutenant (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 10:04 (fifteen years ago)

AFL will try not to let it happen before announcing that they'll play the entire season in Blacktown and on the Gold Coast

Worse Lieutenant (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 10:04 (fifteen years ago)

A: tricky one to call; mexico are always up for it and uruguay are my dark horses for possibly even as far as a semi-final place if my calculations are correct (strong defence, suarez & forlan up top, hello). france need to screw their heads on fast.

B: again who knows with argentina these days, but they have less to worry about than france. greece are not what they were and might well lose out to nigeria. south korea = no hiddink no credibility.

C: piece of piss, etc. but the real luck of england's draw isnt in the group but in how it might pan out in the latter stages - anything less than semis is failure imo.

D: d for DUNCE PUNDITRY - this is a stick on 9 points for germany with the bafflingly underrated and very capable serbia behind. australia have regressed badly, and ghana are the same team as in 2006 just older and worse off.

E: hmmm. meh fuck it who cares they'll all be out by the quarters anyway.

F: forzzzzza italy. look out for them versus spain, ivory coast, or portugal in the quarters though, with germany after that.

G: of death. exciting contrast of team styles. brazil will win however.

H: warm up for spain before they get to their particularly hard latter stages - if they win the thing they'll have bloody well earned it.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

final prediction: brazil vs italy, italy retain world cup on pens.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 12:47 (fifteen years ago)

Brazil-England final, England to win in 90 mins. Dearest hope: JT to get a knock and be ruled out so it's Beckham or Rio lifting the trophy.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 12:55 (fifteen years ago)

An excel wallchart:

http://www.imicuk.com/worldcup/worldcup2010.xls

I have England losing to Brazil in the semis after a tough win over Germany then a coast over Mexico.

NotEnough, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:34 (fifteen years ago)

I have 404 file not found

blue_eyes chrono_trigger dirty engineer glasses (onimo), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

go usa

max, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

go out before england, usa

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:27 (fifteen years ago)

that xls doesnt work for me either

why is it so hard to find one? should be loads out there but coming up with zilch

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:44 (fifteen years ago)

found this one but you have to fill the teams in first
http://seganeptune.com/2009/12/04/sega-and-si-games-offer-a-free-spreadsheet-for-world-cup-2010/

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago)

E.A.S.Y. is the 4th most difficult group, according to some people.

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/index.html

Poll
Which of the eight groups at the 2010 FIFA World Cup is most difficult?
1) Group G
54.05%
2) Group A
18.63%
3) Group D
7.11%
4) Group C
5.11%
5) Group E
4.53%
6) Group H
4.07%
7) Group B
3.81%
8) Group F
2.69%

blue_eyes chrono_trigger dirty engineer glasses (onimo), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:06 (fifteen years ago)

Group F is stupidly easy.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:15 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.fifa.com/mm/photo/tournament/finaldraw/01/14/42/66/1144266%5ffull-lnd.jpg

He's looked better.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:35 (fifteen years ago)

so's she tbh

caek, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago)

~that~ guy on the right

blue_eyes chrono_trigger dirty engineer glasses (onimo), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:37 (fifteen years ago)

That link 404s me as well now.

Here's one, tho it's megaupload, sorry.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1KPAGU0G

NotEnough, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:40 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fE95_ZzGdc

little bit of background for Group C

everyone stop (dan m), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 01:13 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

wearing the new england shirt around munich today. feeling stylish, excited, and deliciously provocative!

caek, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 13:52 (fifteen years ago)

I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY COULDN'T FIND SOMETHING TO CHARGE HENRY WITH IT WAS A BLATANT HAND BALL

ice cool HOOSicle (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 13:54 (fifteen years ago)

WHO WILL MEND BLATTER'S BROKEN FIFA

ice cool HOOSicle (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 13:54 (fifteen years ago)

pfunkboy?

caek, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)

what other countries have great shirts this year?

caek, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)

YOMP

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00384/sns0650fca280_384487a.jpg

ice cool HOOSicle (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)

hey ur breaking my flow

ice cool HOOSicle (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)

haha, more kit talk!

caek, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

would wear:

http://www.fifa.com/mm/photo/worldfootball/nationalteams/01/15/31/67/1153167_large.jpg

caek, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.uksoccershop.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=11096

Cameroon usually have awesome kits but dunno what the deal is with this Comic Sans monstrosity.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.uksoccershop.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=10890

Ghana away shirt, possibly sponsored by McDonalds.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

would wear cameroon away shirt

http://www.kitbag.com/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_kb-60882.jpg

caek, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)

I always had the impression that the England-Germany thing was one-way, like most rivalries I suppose. Have I got that wrong? Much kudos if you're posting while being beaten senseless.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)

wtf have they just drawn the red on with felt tip?

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

realised the other day that it's over ten years now since England and Scotland played each other. IDIOT FA(s).

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

reusing stock of old Norwich strips

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)

organised by martin reuser

ice cool HOOSicle (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, no one in germany gives a shit about my shirt, except thinking i look snappy, tbh

caek, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)

last episode of QI told me that Germany's big footballing beef is not with England but with Holland. For some reason.

minimal elegance seems to be quite in with this year's kits, SHEESH that's not gonna offer future fashion lols.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

because they live next to holland, and actually invaded them

ice cool HOOSicle (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

I thought it went Holland -> Germany, same as with England. I presumed Germany would be obsessed with Italy since I read that they've never beaten them competitively (but that's surely wrong)

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

no, they're obsessed with the dutch too, much like england with us

ice cool HOOSicle (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)

oh i don't know- i know the dutch go crazy against the germans in any sphere from living there, but tbh i'm not sure how seriously the germans take it

ice cool HOOSicle (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

'Rumor has it, they may want Bornstein to play half of the game for Honduras'

i am under no illusions that my opinions are even that interesting to me (dan m), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 16:56 (fifteen years ago)

i think the sad truth is that even tho everybody hates germany, they don't really hate anybody else. it's infuriating.

jabba hands, Thursday, 21 January 2010 01:32 (fifteen years ago)

kinda where you want to get to, though. i wonder where it is on maslow

dumb mick name follows (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 January 2010 01:34 (fifteen years ago)

the germans have invaded the top of maslow's pyramid, maybe

dumb mick name follows (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 January 2010 01:35 (fifteen years ago)

left their beach towel on it overnight i shouldn't wonder. now why didn't they do that to belgium?

dumb mick name follows (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 January 2010 01:35 (fifteen years ago)

They used to hate themselves, but I think even that's changed with the rather charming team they put out in 2006.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 January 2010 10:36 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah I think they won a lot of people round at the last World Cup. In the past they were infuriating for either being a grinding machine or, worse, for being rubbish and still managing to make the final.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 21 January 2010 10:43 (fifteen years ago)

people kept saying how rubbish they were 2 years ago when they got to the final, i didn't think they were that bad tho (good going fwd, ropey at the back...fun times).

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 21 January 2010 12:31 (fifteen years ago)

They got to the final? I've had my memory wiped of every recent international tournament it seems. Was Euro 08 when Holland were great against someone (Italy?) and then got knocked out by Russia? And Turkey scored a late goal or something? I can't seem to remember anything else.

Home Taping Is Killing Muzak (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 21 January 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)

It was and it was great. I think it was France that Holland crushed - they were irresistible that night, and it was the first time I remember seeing swoopycam do its thing.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 January 2010 18:02 (fifteen years ago)

Holland crushed both France and Italy in the group stage (4-1 and 3-0 , something like that). Everybody thought they were favourites and then they failed. Nothing but the usual for our dutch friends then.

Jibe, Thursday, 21 January 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

the dutch fans sing a song when they play germany which translates as "give us back our grandads bikes"...some ref to the war. myself and a friend in dublin had adapted this for many other international rivalries..."give us back our grandads lives" etc...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 21 January 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

Charlie Davies on remarkable path to recovery

Today, Davies looks very much like he did before the accident. The swelling in his face that was so evident during his interview with ESPN last November has subsided, though a shorter haircut reveals the scar he has from ear to ear arcing over the top of his skull. That scar came after doctors peeled his face off down to his chin in order to repair the multiple fractures that left his facial bones a shattered mess.

Pretty damn amazing story even if he doesn't make it to SA, but after reading this it's hard not to believe he'll be there.

i am under no illusions that my opinions are even that interesting to me (dan m), Monday, 25 January 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)

Love this guy

Mit der Kattzheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Michael White), Monday, 25 January 2010 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

That scar came after doctors peeled his face off down to his chin in order to repair the multiple fractures that left his facial bones a shattered mess.

Jesus!

mizzell, Monday, 25 January 2010 21:05 (fifteen years ago)

Woah. Any pictures of him as in-his-last-role Heath Ledger?

dumb mack maine follows (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 January 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)

new world cup ball is bamboozling keepers

http://www.goal.com/en/news/815/african-nations-cup/2010/01/19/1752150/african-nations-cup-blame-goalkeepers-foibles-on-the-new

Michael B, Monday, 25 January 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)

Doesn't this happen every world cup?

the clones of tldr funkenstein (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 25 January 2010 21:32 (fifteen years ago)

yep

Michael B, Monday, 25 January 2010 21:33 (fifteen years ago)

"A small thread with a small mentality" - Liverpool and Man City won't win the Premiership 2009/10

I hate 'well the ball is a lot lighter now and will cause goalkeepers real problems this summer' before EVERY ****ING TOURNAMENT!

ma-cheese-mo (onimo), Monday, 25 January 2010 21:33 (fifteen years ago)

xpost doesnt make it any less annoying though

Michael B, Monday, 25 January 2010 21:33 (fifteen years ago)

MLS is supposedly using the new ball this season. A handful of players might have a little bit of an advantage come June?

i am under no illusions that my opinions are even that interesting to me (dan m), Monday, 25 January 2010 21:41 (fifteen years ago)

At some point soon the US are going to surprise everybody and win the whole thing - not this time though, I don't think

Ismael Klata, Monday, 25 January 2010 21:44 (fifteen years ago)

I've said it before, I'd be happy just living to see them win Copa America.

i am under no illusions that my opinions are even that interesting to me (dan m), Monday, 25 January 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

USA having the most ticket applicants surprises me a bit (only a bit)

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 25 January 2010 21:52 (fifteen years ago)

At some point soon the US are going to surprise everybody and win the whole thing - not this time though, I don't think

― Ismael Klata, Monday, 25 January 2010 21:44 (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I've said it before, I'd be happy just living to see them win Copa America.

― i am under no illusions that my opinions are even that interesting to me (dan m), Monday, 25 January 2010 21:51 (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Neither of these things will happen during Leo Messi's career fyi

dumb mack maine follows (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 January 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)

(have just decided that it doesn't care how crazy maradona is- messi is winning the world cup. oh, and his teammates i guess.)

dumb mack maine follows (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 January 2010 22:04 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder if anyone's told Maradona can only take 21 teammates for him (assuming he picks Messi that is)

Ismael Klata, Monday, 25 January 2010 22:05 (fifteen years ago)

squad is 23, must incl. 3 keeps iirc

dumb mack maine follows (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 January 2010 22:12 (fifteen years ago)

unless u meant messi has the talent of 2, in which i agree and retract the last statement

dumb mack maine follows (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 January 2010 22:13 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

If you can't wait until June to see who England will beat in the final.lose to in the quarter finals, then you do a lot worse that check my latest World Cup Spreadsheet, previous iterations of which feature on threads about previous international tournaments.

Boyler, Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

password protected? wtf?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

No, just the sheets doing the work. The bit where you add the scores is fine.

Boyler, Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

We should do an ilx sweepstake because I don't want to support any... of the teams going? Maybe Argentina for LOLs.

There's Always Been A Prance Element To (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

Germany for max. LOLs

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

Really? Germany just a bit boring right now, non? Maybe to have a drinking game involving 'You can never count out the Germans.'

There's Always Been A Prance Element To (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

Just for annoying-England-fans LOLs

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

Excellent work, Boyler! It's not a World Cup without one of your masterful spreadsheets.

Madchen, Thursday, 4 March 2010 17:17 (fifteen years ago)

Ay thang yew.

Boyler, Thursday, 4 March 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

hating nigel de jong right now for breaking stu holden's leg and only getting a yellow in Netherlands v. USA, fuck that guy

i am under no illusions that my opinions are even that interesting to me (dan m), Friday, 5 March 2010 22:25 (fifteen years ago)

also ESPN announces broadcasting team: http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/05/world-cup-with-an-accent-on-tv-in-united-states/

On Thursday, ESPN, which will carry all 64 matches of the 2010 World Cup in South Africa across its family of networks beginning on June 11, unveiled its announcing teams for the tournament. And from top to bottom, the gents voices are well known … in Britain. Ian Darke, Adrian Healey Derek Rae and Martin Tyler will provide the play-by-play match commentary throughout the tournament.

i am under no illusions that my opinions are even that interesting to me (dan m), Friday, 5 March 2010 22:26 (fifteen years ago)

Yay for the Boyler spreadsheet! You've spelled Portugal wrong though.

Are we doing Panini stickers this year then?

xpost, Ian Darke probably isn't even well known in his own house, tbh.

ailsa, Friday, 5 March 2010 22:32 (fifteen years ago)

in Britain. Ian Darke, Adrian Healey Derek Rae and Martin Tyler will provide the play-by-play match commentary throughout the tournament.

Fox Soccer Channel plays games with these guys commentary and the commentary we usually have is so dire, I opften watch games in Spanish so as not to have to hear the prattle.

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Friday, 5 March 2010 22:49 (fifteen years ago)

Derek Rae is one of the less annoying people ESPN let talk about Scottish football. It's a pretty low bar, tbh, so I've pretty much defined "damning with faint praise" there.

ailsa, Friday, 5 March 2010 22:58 (fifteen years ago)

hating nigel de jong right now for breaking stu holden's leg and only getting a yellow in Netherlands v. USA, fuck that guy

otm. it was a FRIENDLY you asshole de jong.

rahni, Saturday, 6 March 2010 02:56 (fifteen years ago)

studs up, two footed, and late? dick. feel sorry for teams in oranje's group

lol i'm still mad 3 days later, my poor roommate doesn't care at all and he's not heard the end of it

rahni, Saturday, 6 March 2010 03:13 (fifteen years ago)

will provide the play-by-play match commentary

uh. Missing the point again? Good luck at doing "play-by-play" at teh soccerball.....

anatol_merklich, Friday, 12 March 2010 23:34 (fifteen years ago)

'Hangin's too good for them', said an Alan Green yesterday

The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 13:00 (fifteen years ago)

US striker Charlie Davies is returning to Sochaux after completing rehab:

http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2010/03/davies-to-begin-training-with-sochaux-monday.html

<3 this guy

i am under no illusions that my opinions are even that interesting to me (dan m), Thursday, 18 March 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

whomever designed the new Australia shirts are the most disgusting savages etc.

Goulburn Years (King Boy Pato), Thursday, 18 March 2010 23:47 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/table/2010/mar/22/world-cup-2010-tv-fixtures

ITV get opening match AND first two England games :(

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 25 March 2010 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

Are any wee random channels getting any rights? One of the unexpected highlights of the last World Cup was UKGTV2 or whatever Dave was called before it was Dave getting coverage, complete with insane punditry from Brian Blessed and Barry Fry.

ailsa, Thursday, 25 March 2010 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

tv coverage of football needs to level up and let you choose yr cameras, turn the commentary off, look at team sheets &c, not try to sell 3d glasses

ogmor, Thursday, 25 March 2010 18:46 (fifteen years ago)

Just seeing the games written out like that has left me drooling

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 March 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, "JAPAN vs CAMEROON" has a ring to it

ogmor, Thursday, 25 March 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

insane punditry from Brian Blessed

oh man, put him and Ray Hudson in a booth together and the world just may implode

he takes the account of everything in the universe into consideration (dan m), Thursday, 25 March 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

oh shiiii...Sven indeed in
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/8587871.stm

wouldn't be surprised to see him get to a semi at the third attempt...

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 28 March 2010 21:52 (fifteen years ago)

i couldn't find odds on forlan for top goalscorer when looking earlier. anyone want to help me out? this seems a massive oversight considering he was recently europe's golden shoe.

oh wait just found out he is 80-1 at coral. £1 here I come.

he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 28 March 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6267/bittenbyowndog.jpg

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

Hound of God hospitalises Maradona
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/mar/30/diego-maradona-bitten-dog-surgery

mizzell, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8612734.stm

"About 2.2m tickets have already been sold, with the United States somewhat surprisingly heading the list of overseas buyers with 118,945 tickets. British fans have bought more than 67,000 tickets."

guessing not all of those US ticket sales are USA supporters? any ilxors going??

jabba hands, Saturday, 10 April 2010 01:37 (fifteen years ago)

sadly no.

gotta be honduras and mexico and korea etc fans. canada's got like 11k going w/o a team in the tournament. probably same thing at play tho

rafsan (rahni), Saturday, 10 April 2010 02:26 (fifteen years ago)

in Germany, only 32,269 tickets have been sold and Valcke admitted that sales in Europe have been "disappointing"

That's just ridiculous. If each German goes to three matches, that's fourteen full 747s which is pretty impressive if you ask me. What were they expecting? It's really, really far away! When the world cup's in Europe you can just drive to it and sleep in a tent.

The stadiums probably will be full, but I fear this'll be used as a reason to avoid poor countries in future. It's only since 1990 that vast crowds've been the rule anyway - there were always acres of empty terraces at previous world cups.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 April 2010 06:34 (fifteen years ago)

two months pass...

Italy

* 01 Buffon
* 03 Criscito
* 04 Chiellini
* 05 Cannavaro Captain
* 19 Zambrotta
* 06 De Rossi
* 07 Pepe
* 15 Marchisio
* 22 Montolivo
* 09 Iaquinta
* 11 Gilardino

Paraguay

* 01 Villar Captain
* 03 Morel Rodriguez
* 14 Da Silva
* 17 Torres
* 21 Alcaraz
* 06 Caceres
* 13 Vera
* 15 Caceres
* 16 Riveros Nunez
* 18 Valdez
* 19 Barrios

no Di Natale? Also, anyone actually seen Marchisio?

Still, I have a feeling this could be a cracking match. Hopefully not jinxing it right here.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago)

Right here in the wrong thread?

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

oops yeah should remove bookmark for future ctrl+f laziness.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago)


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