Man clothes: where do you buy them?

Too old and fat for Howies, not quite ready for Old Town.

the internet

The answer for Britishers is "M&S gear".

man store

Errr, Gap and H&M mostly, sometimes charity shops. I find clothes shopping a slightly daunting experience.

Barneys

I love Steve Allen and Shipley & Halmos Bogota shirts.

charity shops, or topshit if i want something specific like nice fitting jeans, or m&s for pants and socks.

95% of the clothing I've bought in the last couple of years came from H&M. It's not dumpy and bland like most men's clothing and it looks nice enough to make up for the fact that it isn't exactly top-of-the-line. And it's relatively inexpensive. Still have to buy my pants elsewhere, though (as I am not built like Bowie ca. 1972).

nice fitting jeans

Since my waist size exceeded my inside leg, these have been but distant memory.

dover street market!!! (went into temp hella credit card debt after 2 visits here)
really love Liberty too, yet, also hella ££££££

Jeans by Diesel and GStar, cords and jumpers from Gap, tshirts from American Apparel, socks by Pringle (always from TK Maxx), pants by Sloggi, jackets by Diesel, North Face, and GStar.

Oh, and Fred Perrys.

My 2 suits are M&S as well, as I cannae afford more but they are still grebt quality.

uniqlo, american apparel, ebay, some second hand but not enough considering how many good shops are around me. I basically dress like my dad going to play golf in 1987.

jeans at levi's; tshirts at american apparel and shows and thrift-stores; jackets and outerwear at thrift-stores and on ebay; socks and underwear at H&M or walgreens (tbh); shoes wherever.

for some reason american apparel's V neck t shirt always shrink after drying them. The regular one don't, but I hardly ever wear regular tees. Has anyone else had this problem? I even asked a clerk about it and she she they shouldn't shrink.

anyone buy much stuff online? got any tips and also...how do you cope with sizes etc?

my favourite american apparel t-shirt is the roundneck with the really loose neck...they are so comfortable and really nice. never had one shrink but I have had one dry out and a few tiny holes crack through the fabric.

This is my friends store in Austin. One of my favorite shops.
http://shopbowsplusarrows.com/products/tags/6-mens

muji, zara

I'd like to shop at H&M but I'm just too damn tall. Maybe if I was 5' 10" or something...

Anyway a mixture of thrifts, Banana Republic (especially the outlet shop one), Levis (always 501s) for jeans, Gap, etc.

Zara fit me (tall, skinny) to a T. Annoyingly tho my last three pairs of trousers from there all have pockets that are virtually horizontal, change all over the place whenever I sit down.

I basically wear the plainest stuff I can find from Macy's or Nordstrom rack. I like American Apparel ok, too.

liberty <3

paging phil-two

cos!!!!!!!!!!!

uniqlo & american apparel for basics and cheap flannels & jeans & sweaters or whatever

j crew sales for slightly nicer sweaters & shirts

sample sales at steven alan, opening ceremony, acne for nicer stuff

the internet for shoes

I'd like to shop at H&M but I'm just too damn tall. Maybe if I was 5' 10" or something...

really? I'm 6'5 and used to get lots of stuff to fit at H&M, when I was like 3 belt notches thinner. Now it's the usual story of 'over 34" legs? Must have a 28" waist, then'.

really? I'm 6'5 and used to get lots of stuff to fit at H&M, when I was like 3 belt notches thinner. Now it's the usual story of 'over 34" legs? Must have a 28" waist, then'.

None of the H&Ms here in LA stock things that will fit adequately. I'm not super skinny (36" legs and 34/36" waist), but I have a long torso so most of the clothes I find with the right length are tailored more for a linebacker that's double my weight.

Oddly enough, I have a better time finding clothes my size in Portland, Las Vegas, or Italy (well, no surprise on Italy there)

I kinda wish American stores would just offer one length and let you get them tailored after the purchase like in other parts of the world, but no that would be too inconvenient/make too much sense

I'm seriously considering saving up the $$$ and just doing my shopping in Italy. There was one shop I walked into in Venice and within two minutes the proprietor had picked out some dress shirts that fit me perfectly. Of course he was in his late-60s and had probably been doing that his entire life... big contrast to the supposed help here in the states.

Unlike M&S, American stores are good for PJ trousers for people taller than 6'.

During FROZEN BRITAIN I was v glad I'd bought some on my last visit as our wheezing boiler failed to put out much heat and bedclothes were essential.

in order of most to least stuff bought there - Uniqlo, Century 21, American Apparel, thrift stores (usually Beacon's Closet), J Crew, H&M, other

max I've never been able to find anything I could afford at Opening Ceremony so kudos. I never take the trouble to find out about sample sales and stuff

yeah id never shop there except on a sample sale. ari pays attention to all that stuff so i just tag along when its a store/label i like.

but seriously like 60% of my wardrobe is uniqlo--in fact i am (embarrassingly) wearing an entirely uniqlo outfit right now, except for my shoes and undershirt

uniqlo, the japanese gap

I'm the same way with muji - I feel embarrassed when I walk into their store cause I am like a walking product catalog (but better than feeling bare-assed I suppose)

the only time I buy labels like that is if their stuff lands at Century 21. that place is a huge pain in the ass tbh but it's near my work so not a huge hassle to duck in every so often and see if anything good's in there

xxpost - lol yeah I'm totally the same way ... none of their stuff sticks out and screams UNIQLO OUTFIT though like head to toe J Crew would. or maybe it does to other people, not really to me tho

jeans - Japanese reproductions of vintage stuff, mostly. I need to lose 15 pounds to make my Warehouse 800s fit comfortably again. :( I've ordered from blueingreensoho.com and selfedge.com before
shirts - plain t-shirts are either Lucky Brand or Jerzees from Target, I have a hard time finding shirts I like (just want solid-color button-ups that aren't quite as dressy as oxfords but aren't plain either) but pick up stuff from the Gap, J. Crew, Target, etc.. I don't live in area where I get to accessorize much (no scarves, layers, whatever) so all I need are basic shirts.

I like H&M because they have clothes that fit my skinny buns. Shopping in most other stores is just an exercise in digging through piles of larges and x-larges and finding 0 smalls.

the american S is more like a M anyway

uniqlo is so shit but I still shop there; they at least do dece guest collections (opening ceremony eg)

H&M mostly, occasionally American Apparel, ASOS, the odd plain t-shirt from Topman. Casual stuff is okay, but being small of frame and super skinny on top of it (although that belly sure is developing...), AND enjoying a slim fit anyway can make it tough for smarter dressing. Especially when I really resent, for example, paying more than £15 for a shirt.

For my work clothes, they are basically all the same brands. I wear gap or banana republic pants, and j. crew or gap shirts. I basically consider it my uniform. They're nice enough that I don't look like a schlub, and not too expensive.

Casual clothes are more of a crapshoot, since I don't wear them too often. Gap jeans, random t-shirts and sweaters.

I feel so unimaginative buying so many gap clothes, but it's so easy. They always have a ton of sizes and offer many slim fit styles. I don't know why other retailers have so much trouble with that.

i only buy new trousers when mars is in semi-sextile with saturn

and then i go to liberty

anyone buy much stuff online? got any tips and also...how do you cope with sizes etc?

i buy a lot of stuff online mostly bcuz i cant afford to shop at places i like but i only ebay v specific things that i already know abt - like i have a list of specific shoes or designers or items im interested in and then will spend a few minutes a cpl of times a week checking various listings seeing if anything i want has been listed/price comparing

but seriously like 60% of my wardrobe is uniqlo--in fact i am (embarrassingly) wearing an entirely uniqlo outfit right now, except for my shoes and undershirt

i hear you...uniqlo is pretty amazing. lots of horrible stuff there and it can be a bit plain but some great things too and quality is really good for the price.

acne and nudie jeans (on sale), h&m dress shirts & socks, aa tees and knit undershirts, br shirts and some slacks. more shirts from vintage/thrift stories. got a peacoat from topman that i like. got a great rainjacket and a great down coat from nau.

>uniqlo is pretty amazing.

Agree with all previous rep for uniqlo, and am still gutted that their early '00s UK provincial stores all shut, so I have to buy everything online unless am in or around London. Great jeans (esp the japanese denim, which is a steal), great basics and the best undies and socks anywhere, much better than 99% of designer stuff - I've ended up replacing my whole boxers and socks drawer with their stuff just because it wears and washes so well.

Thrift stores, band tshirts, and coats and hats from the local shop that sells construction gear.

http://www.stormykromer.com/

uniqlo is so plain tho and not even in a nice apc/cos way, most of it looks like clothes from next

agreed the denim is good and their prices are great; saying it is shit was maybe a bit strong

i dont know what "next" is, but uniqlo works p well for me, simple pieces cut well for super cheap and ok quality

they have a ton of ugly shit but... i dont buy it

OK ITS GOOD I SAID IT

they're opening a cos here soon which is <3 cos it's bullshit that in 2010 u can't buy h&m/cos online

yeah, h&m's lack of online shopping always rings me off too, same with Gap who barely even have a UK website.

I had never even heard of uniqlo before this thread (they don't exist in california apparently)

interested to check it out now tho

Brooks Bros summer sale, winter sale keeps me in nice shirts and trousers.

yeah dover st market is good. my girl works for comme de garcon so i get a ton of discounts. got a couple of beautiful raf simons shirts that are pretty much my staple. the comme de garcon shirts aren't so good, kinda blocky and square. too business like. i like clothes that you spend a decent amount on and you just know you're going to wear them for a good while

the rest of my clothes come from charity shops, but you have to go to a wide range of locations and often enough if you're gonna find anything worth wearing, it's not like you wake up one morning and think 'i really need some black trousers' and then pop down to the local care & share to buy some. i guess that's where your uniqlos and h&m's come in. i taught myself how to take in trousers with a needle and thread which makes finding them at charity shops a lot easier if you prefer a certain fit

my girl works for comme de garcon so i get a ton of discounts.

super jealous! have some older stuff (like 01-04) which is fantastic - particularly the knits. and one really deconstructed suit jacket.

Paul Smith (esp. if you live in an area close to their "Jeans Shops"... not necessarily a denim jeans): I have a pair of med weight wool trousers from about 10 seasons ago that are ~amazing~. A steal at ~£100 iirc.

Also, Londoners should hit that Paul Smith Sale Shop as well, you can get decent 1-2 season old Italian-made pret-a-porter suits for CHEAP.

I think (?) the only Uniqlo in the USA is in on broadway in NYC at the old OMG location... I will rep for Uniqlo's last couple seasons of denim, easily the best price:value prop that I've seen in about 10 years! There quality on tops are not as stringent but their denim from their owned/operated factory in Hiroshima is really ace. I have a pair of raw black jeans that look really nice after a couple years.

damn rio, i should have had your number my last visit! I'm tall and broad shouldered and surprisingly the CdG/JW shirts fit me almost always off the rack, and if not, I know a few people who can make them fit! ;-)

also rio, I can't forget Rose Bakery which (other than St. John) was unexpectedly one of the best meals I've had in England!

^^^*not necessarily a denim-only shop*

hey steve shasta what do u think of naked & famous?

paul smith's less formal dress shirts are really well tailored imo - not as big a fan of the cdg/jw dress shirts which are less sweet and more gimmicky

hey Mr. Lamp, I think that Naked & Famous is great, their product reminds me a lot of (their American peer) Takumi who uses the same fabric... in fact, Paul Smith Red Ear MIJ (who made one of my favorite jeans ever about 7 years ago) also sources from that same denim factory in Kojima, Japan.

The fabric is indeed really nice (I'm very familiar with that particular factory's output), but I have to admit I do not own any of the N&F stuff but I've seen it in shops and shows and I admire the fit of the one pair I tried on, which reminded me of a more rugged Dior Homme cut.

something about uniqlo fit does not work for me. the thighs are too stretchy, the calves too skinny

not sure why but i can't find any prices/ordering instructions at naked and famous online

You can order from BiG and they should have size charts as well:
http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&manufacturer_id=43&Itemid=28

thank u!

i also see so much uniqlo denim around brooklyn that i think i'd rather get something else

have definitely been wanting to check out their shirts and sweaters though, i hear they have good colors

Paul Smith Red Ear MIJ (who made one of my favorite jeans ever about 7 years ago

lol i keep meaning to try on a pair of these bcuz of your praise

are you in nyc? i like the blue in green one's more than the paul smith shop ones tbh!

also w/r/t trousers, i am currently flitting btw a 30 and 32, and am becoming very confused by it all :|

like i have 1 32 pair that's spot on, and another that i have to keep pulling up :(

I have that exact same problem. It's why I never buy clothes over the web.

better online retailers should have advertised measurements which if you know yours, can be super helpful!

(note: i don't buy online either fwiw lol)

Yeah they do have advertised measurements, but with waists there seems to be more than enough variation to ensure that half the things that are supposed to be in my size just won't fit right.

even from the same company sometimes, different styles or whatever. also it's too easy to spend $$$ online :P

that's called "tolerance", the bedfellow of old/faulty patterns and lax enforcement. one of my #1 pet peeves.

lol despite being p sure ive been in it i dont even remember where the paul smith shop is. also i dont really need nor can i really afford more new jeans just that u reminded i wanted to (at some point) try those. actually shasta do u know of any places in nyc that carry furfur?

i wish filippa k wld offer online shopping - wld buy so much stuff

the skinniest jeans from uniqlo fit me better than any other pair of trousers I think I've ever owned...they are actually pretty much all I wear, in about 11 diff colours/designs

you don't find that they sag in the butt?? maybe i should give them another go . . .

yea thats true for me too ronan

mine dont sag in the butt and i have no butt

this thread is so sad! do you people really get all your clothes from h&m, uniqlo, AA, gap? i mean, its fine and all for basics, but do you only wear basics?

Well yeah phil, we obviously just shop at Kohl's for suits and shit.

Kidding. I consider H&M (been there 4-5 times in Chicago/Las Vegas) and Uniqlo (never been in one!) a foreign convenience. As an ilxor who lives in a city that is at least a notch or two below Minneapolis in shopping selection (but coming up on the boutique tip in the next few years), I typically have either bought shoes while shopping or from zappos/nordstrom online. I get some basic t-shirt stuff from either random sales or AA, jeans from various sources or Levi's, and pants from either a local chain (Younkers, which has been owned by various national chains in recent years) or Banana Republic, etc.

I've been buying more random clothes from sites like gilt.com that do designer sales, or boutique stores that have a website. Also semi-addicted to the sportswear-like nau.com.

Puma shoe addiction..

Phil, all I have is basics. I rarely even have the chance to sport something nicer. Remember that time we met? You wouldn't talk to me because my clothes were basics and I said your Kimchee was too hot.

basics are all I know =(

Pretty much all basics.

I'm enjoying the current Americana/workwear trend, because my usual style of looking like a Neil Young roadie circa '72 makes me look ahead of the game. In a couple of years, I'll just look homeless again. :(

this thread is so sad! do you people really get all your clothes from h&m, uniqlo, AA, gap? i mean, its fine and all for basics, but do you only wear basics?

yeah, it's called being poor

frankly, where I live, there are not h&m, uniqlo, or AA stores. so beyond that, yeah....

If I had the kind of income that allowed me to purchase $270 pants, why would I even be wearing pants? I'd be wearing pajamas 24/7, swimming naked in my Olympic-sized pool.

that last sentence doesn't make sense unless you're saying you'd be able to buy 270$ pajamas that let you wear them and be naked at the same time

They have space-age fabrics these days, you know

are they available in basics, is wha I wanna know

I dressed pretty much the same for the last 4 years. Either a hanes v neck with Marc Jacob Wranglers and cowboy boots or a dress shirt with the same jeans and boots. I usually buy 3 or 4 pairs of the same jean and hanes comes in packs of 5.

yeah, h&m's lack of online shopping always rings me off too

I feel you all because I didn't always live in a city with two H&Ms within walking distance of one another. Would gladly trade one of them for an online store for you guys.

I'm just saying that in my dreams, I'm naked and wearing pajamas at the same time.

in my dreams u can buy a life of leisure for slightly less than $300

And I'm wearing pajamas right now, so I'm halfway there!

jeans: target mostly sometimes gap dont really give a fuck about jeans at this point.
tshirts: shows/bagazillions of free "dude who sells geetars" swag
sweatshirts/jackets: metropark clearance (shameful but awesome)/local shop called robot love
shoes: i have so many of these i really never need to buy another pair because i am insane.
suits: now defunct nates in mpls, kind of freaking out because next suit is going to come from ????

i make my own suits out of dreams and pajamas and uniqlo tshirts

Yeah, shoes are so easy to buy! Tons of them look great, 6pm.com has them for like 75% off, if only it could all be as easy as shoes.

this thread is so sad! do you people really get all your clothes from h&m, uniqlo, AA, gap? i mean, its fine and all for basics, but do you only wear basics?

outside of sample sales which are basically ny-only anything else is prohibitively expensive bro!! and not all of us have the time to be riflin thru the salvation army

yeah basically the same story for me in london, I got a decent promotion recently but even still I just sort of think I can look as well as I am happy with just by uniqlo/aa/occasionally somewhere else...

the only thing I will spend a decent amount on is a jacket or a pair of shoes...which I might leave the cheap clothes world to buy. I hate h&m tho, I don't think I've ever seen anything I liked in there.

yeah h&m suxx

glad to hear you and i dress identically ronan maybe we should start a variety act

yes tho i have little talent

your talent is dressing like me

it's true...I didn't realise how talented I was

a lack of variety act.

gotta admit I buy plenty of stuff from gap/ban rep and even a few shirts from j-crew.

jeans: all about lucky. my wife insists on these cause she likes how they fit on me.

dress clothes: Italian suits fit my frame to a "T"/Hugo Boss is my fave but I can do Armani. Zegna shirts are the bomb.

shoes: rockport, johnston & murphy, ecco. i like retro sneakers: adidas puma and onitsuka tigers. got a pair of UGG boots for my b-day. they're OK.

last purchase: 3 pairs of corduroy trou from the gap @ 60% off! I am a bargain hunter.

i can't believe you guys spend so much money on clothes?

you guys = shasta and phil two? no one else seems to spend that much.

plus, it's nice to spend money on clothes.

I buy all mine from outlet malls in Delaware, a few times a year.

fwiw most of the clothes in my closet were probably four or five years old until recently

the only thing I will spend a decent amount on is a jacket or a pair of shoes...

― I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, January 23, 2010 6:12 AM

truth

I spend money on clothes. I hate unfitted shirts or jeans. Gap, ban rep J.crew all of those clothes are designed for someone other than me. I have never been to uniqlo and H&M just looks poorly designed. I only shop for clothes twice a year but when I don't mind to pay more for what I want. Like everything you get what you pay for.

i love clothes. never could spend money on them but i am now. i've been working on jeans but my next efforts will be directed toward good shirts, and a couple of shoes.

also yeah fashion insiders don't really get to call poor people sad, sorry phil

i mean i don't think anyone in their right mind who could afford better would say to themselves "I KNOW! i'm going to go shop for my entire wardrobe at H&M! YEAH!"

btw i refuse to go to the gap anymore. i just don't even step in. anything i've ever gotten from them winds up making me feel like a 12yr-old on the way to baseball practice.

haha, maybe i shouldn't have pointed phil at this thread...

i dunno, you all seem to be talking big brands too. i bought a new pair of cons today. white again.

yeah, i love basic brands. not necessarily basic clothes but good old reliable brands are indispensable obv.

that said i got a couple of nice jumpers at tk maxx over the last yr

what's a jumper again?

a "sweater"

tk maxx is pretty good....absolutely tons of shit but anytime i go there thinking "ugh tk maxx" i almost always end up buying something

i mean i don't think anyone in their right mind who could afford better would say to themselves "I KNOW! i'm going to go shop for my entire wardrobe at H&M! YEAH!"

Right? I mean, me and my friend/coworker who shop extensively at H&M also joke extensively about how quickly that shit falls apart. It's a damn sight better than Urban Outfitters' rapidly-dissolving garbage, at any rate.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/6616136/8-jeans-better-made-than-120-jeans.html

like unless ur buying couture its pretty much all made in the same sweatshop

underwear and jumpers: marks and spencers, gutties (trainers): size? and skate shops, t-shirts and hoodies: american apparel (i have t-shirts from american apparel in pink, light blue, green, purple, bright blue, teal, grey, grey and white stripe, probably others i'm forgetting, they're virtually all i wear). Jeans: levi 501s.

shasta maybe knows more here but afaik nudie jeans are made in italy.. that's not to say the actual people making them aren't exploited african immigrants cause i don't know but they claim "no sweatshops". can't stomach h&m for that reason (and that the clothes fall apart) - it's like buying a whole chicken for $2

I like H&M dress shirts cause they're usually slim fit. hate the boxy department store kinds. but jeez H&M seems 10x better constructed than AA stuff

Nudie is made in Italy, they used to have a small facility in Sweden but I think they found out it's just cheaper to do it in Italy.

H&M is made all over the world, afaik they have no commitments to their production facilities so you can expect them to be globally price-shopping for the best value so that the customer who wants that £8 jean will be satisfied.

I have a couple H&M pieces (I went crazy chasing down the CommeDesGarconsxH&M collab pieces (made in Turkey and Croatia)) but I ended up ebaying quite a bit of it. The suits were actually not bad, definitely incredibly designed as far as $250US suits go. The t-shirts were pretty cool too... I kept this maroon one with flourescent blue polka dots that I think is great.

GAP: zero desire for any of that stuff, not my thing, I've been hearing nightmares about the company for a long time through industry gossip.

As for American Apparel, there is a comparable company out of North Carolina called Alternative Apparel http://www.alternativeapparel.com/Consumer.aspx that makes much finer product and actually does not exploit their workers (AmApp has had several immigration raids at their LA factories, as they are employing undocumented workers!!!).

Uniqlo jeans are great as I've said many times, if you want raw selvage denim made in Japan for a fraction of the cost of most brands, there you go. They also make black which I prefer to the indigo. I know they also sell t-shirts but I'm really not that familiar with their other merchandise. Looks like Gap/Old Navy.

APC is great, very solid dependable quality I just find their menswear lines are always really abbreviated. But everything I've ever picked up from them is really solid, it's just picking up something here and there over the years.

Jeans: I have (est.) 300 pairs, but I've been shopping vintage denim and working for denim manufacturers for most of my life. I have a similar obsession for vintage sweatshirts, which I don't think I've ever talked about on ILX but goes just as deep.

Couture likes: Paul Smith, CdG/Junya Watanabe, Dior Homme, John Varvatos; dislikes: Marc Jacobs, also most Italian stuff lately!!!

Athletic wear: I LOVE Nike ACG (esp. the Japan line), Louis Garneau, Rapha. All are very $$$ but are super comfortable, intuitive and long-lasting.

Jeans: I have (est.) 300 pairs

jesus christ

hmm think I'll get that uniqlo raw denim I've been eyein

Steve what other Jeans do you have/collect? What's your opinion of some of the newer jeans like 4 Stroke, Allevol, Jean Shop, or Ironheart? I love my pair of Jean Shops with a straight leg. I haven't washed them in 4 months and I think they will turn out nice.

so am i right in assuming that it is impossible to get uniqlo anywhere in the states other than ny?

i have decided to care about my appearance

i shop @ marshalls & tj maxx 4 the most part tbh

occassionally j crew, banana repub (tho havent liked them in a while)

I collect mostly vintage and vintage inspired jeans, mostly over the last 70 years.

I used to work with the 2 of the folks behind Jean Shop, they do a great job, I love their use of International Orange for their sundries. Pretty nice touch imo. There jeans are straight up traditional repros, unless they're doing something different recently. I like them.

I really, really like the folks at Iron Heart, but I'm becoming less of a fan of their jeans the more I wear them. I have three pairs that I've worn really hard: 634S, 634SR (the 21/23oz raw), and a custom pair that are cut off the Dior Homme 21cm pattern. I love Zimbabwe long staple cotton, but I am not in love with the indigo recipe nor the way the jeans wear (I've had the 634S's for almost 5 years). They are one of the newer JP denim companies I deal with, and the people there are all ~super~ nice (I have a pic with me and the president in my FB), but I'm just not feeling the product over the long term. THAT SAID, if it's raining out, they are the first jeans I turn to. So make of that what you will.

4 Stroke is not my thing. Way more fashion than function as far as I can tell. Lots of color, seem to be moving away from denim and into more workwear inspired twills and chinos last I saw? Kanye likes them lol.

Allevol... I randomly met the guy who either owns them or manages them at that denim store across from Rough Trade in London. He showed me their line and it reminded me of what I've seen from Naked & Famous (Canada), Takumi (USA) and Imperial (Aus)... they all source from the same denim mill in Kojima, JP. Allevol did have one jean that had this super gimmicky thing that they ripped off from either Oni or Samurai where the took the selvage and ran it THROUGH the busted seam on one of the outer legs so that the selvage was exposed along the weftside. Not a very practical design but it was certainly a way to distinguish themselves... albeit in a corny way.

This shop:
http://www.sonofastag.com/

I collect mostly vintage and vintage inspired jeans, mostly over the last 70 years.

omg u r older than morbs!!!

i'm catching up to Morbs fastlike.

yeah, uniqlo is only in NYC, they might have a webstore tho?

p sure they dont

i can't believe you guys spend so much money on clothes?

― plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, January 23, 2010 10:38 AM (9 hours ago)

Jeans: I have (est.) 300 pairs

jesus christ

― iatee, Saturday, January 23, 2010 6:56 PM (1 hour ago)

on a message board where someone admits they have over 2,000 LPs and nobody blinks an eye, I think we could call this "cultures of scale"? Also, it helps to be able to have access to an expense account for R&D, not to mention the tax deductions for industry related expenditures.

yeah I mean I wasn't judging you for it, it's your job, just amazed that anyone could own that much clothing. how do you store them etc.?

also yeah fashion insiders don't really get to call poor people sad, sorry phil

way to put words in my mouth. i don't recall calling anyone poor or sad.. and you of all people, being skinny and in NYC can NOT complain about not being able to find fun and cheap things to wear.

also, taking pics of fashion editors hardly qualifies me as an "insider"....

on a message board where someone admits they have over 2,000 LPs and nobody blinks an eye, I think we could call this "cultures of scale"?

and yes, what shasta said....

Steve has turned this thread into my new favorite! I had no idea that ilx had a denim guy. You said you don't like Marc Jacobs but did you ever try on his Jeans he designed for Wrangler?

x2 - really interesting to read your opinions Steve!

i don't wanna b all "save the worker" on ur thread, but there are like a billion ways that more upmarket brands get away with covering up their sweatshop production. a friend of mine interned for an up-and-coming designer over the summer and he had started getting his semi-diffusion-still-v-pricey stuff made in india but he wanted to be able to say they were made in england so they made the entire dress in india but left the main seam open, the dresses were shipped to london and sewn up. ta-daa! made in england. wherever the item is finished is what goes on the label.

steve have you ever worn pace jeans? back when I could afford expensive denim due to working in a clothes shop I used to buy their jeans a lot, think it was a swedish company, really nice.

xpost

one would like to think that stunts like that have become notorious enough that its only a question of when the EU wade in to clear it up. there's been similar shit in all sorts of industries, "made in sheffield"&c.

way to put words in my mouth. i don't recall calling anyone poor or sad

p sure you called us all sad

i felt sad when i read it

not sad like you meant tho...sad like the opposite of not sad.

sometimes a whole is less unsad than its parts.

sometimes a whole is less unsad than its partspants.

apparently inspired by this thread, TOAST are launching a range of man clothes next month.

i get my ed hardy swag on the 'net (internet), for the rest of my shit i just hit up the SEARS bruv

All about Filene's and Marshall's and sometimes TJ Maxx. All that Calvin Klein and John Varvatos and fancy, simple shit for cheap.

gilt.com, lol

For a long time I only bought clothes in the January sales, as a result of which I could go for years without buying a pair of trousers but always had too many shirts. Now I at least have an income and occasionally splash out, though I still feel bad paying full price for anything. Internet shopping is good for tracking/comparing prices on sales items, though I want to either know how the label does sizing or already have tried the item on IRL. Anytime I've Internet-shopped I've bought direct from the label.

Most of my "nice" clothes are from Paul Smith or Folk, I have a bunch of H+M/Uniqlo/found stuff to fill in the gaps. Shoes are Camper or Onitsuka Tiger.

Other labels I rate: Oliver Spencer, Reiss (sometimes), Paul and Joe, APC.

As for American Apparel, there is a comparable company out of North Carolina called Alternative Apparel http://www.alternativeapparel.com/Consumer.aspx that makes much finer product and actually does not exploit their workers

Yeah, I'll buy stuff from the sleazy, exploitative company that makes stuff in L.A. any day over the "socially responsible" company that makes their shit in China.

You can, you know, buy stuff from both. I'm assuming yr shoes, other shirts, pants, etc. are not all made in LA so it's kind of a strawman argument.

Suit by Zegna, jacket & accessories by Ted Baker, shoes by Camper, Adidas, and Jones. Work shirts by M&S.

Aw yeah, player.

As for American Apparel, there is a comparable company out of North Carolina called Alternative Apparel http://www.alternativeapparel.com/Consumer.aspx that makes much finer product and actually does not exploit their workers

Yeah, I'll buy stuff from the sleazy, exploitative company that makes stuff in L.A. any day over the "socially responsible" company that makes their shit in China.

― wk, Tuesday, August 24, 2010 6:34 PM (Yesterday)

When i wrote that AltApp was still made in the USA. Do your homework if you want to be a revisionist.

american apparel is so fucking gross, i'm amazed that any conscious human being could actually buy anything with their brand upon, ever

i dunno their t-shirts are nice

there was an article on don charney linked to in the AA thread that made him seem like not-that-big-of-an-asshole

dov I meant, don charney makes me think of a hip don rickles

The new Toast for Men campaign is oddly amusing.

Do blokes really wear £450 suits with Converse-style pumps? (As the current Toast catalogue seems to suggest).

If male models are blokes, then yes.

Lately I've had good luck waiting for those J. Crew 40% off sale items days (I get e-mails). Dress shirts for $20-30, nice wool slacks for $50-100, etc. Nordstrom clearance is also not bad.

My slim button down shirts look dumb when tucked in, especially to khakis. Need more shirts for work (teacher). Going to hit up lord and taylor now, wish me luck

BTW Nordstrom also has really good slim dress shirts (the John W. Nordstrom) that are actually slim and don't bunch and aren't too expensive.

xp why do you think they look dumb?

Too slim but mostly too short. I bought smalls because i didn't want them to be baggy. They look great untucked with jeans imo but i think i need to size up for shirts for work.

Buy fitted shirts dude, forget this "small" "medium" "large" business.

yeah s/m/l for shirts with buttons is not gonna work 95% of the time.

Good advice. I'll at least try to find the right size today when i'm shopping.

Got my o/h some nice stuff in the ASOS sale
There is a male model on there with the most ridic tattoos

The bearded dude?

yeah with the kissy kissy on his neck!

i take it back, this guy's are more amazing: http://www.asos.com/ASOS/ASOS-Vest-With-Racer-Back-And-Textured-Jersey/Prod/pgeproduct.aspx?iid=3362791&cid=6993&sh=0&pge=1&pgesize=204&sort=-1&clr=Black

I don't think I get the neck lotus.

who's on Morrissey's tshirt?

I think i get the beck lotus.

Speaking of necks and shirts i got measured for shirts and my neck is a 16, which is really big for my frame size/height/weight so most of the shirts fit weirdly if i want them to be able to button all the way. I guess i need to use a tailor if i want to continue insisting on being finicky about how my clothes fit

Get into home tailoring if you have the time to develop a skill. & learn to copy favourite items either by picking apart worn out ones or by whichever means you can while leaving them intact.
Think it should be relatively easy, if a bit time consuming. BUt having said that I'm currently doing a number of courses to try to pick up the rudiments and that may not be easy for others to find time for.

BUt hopefully at the end I should be in a position to make my own clothing which is something I've always wanted to do. & to my own design which is even better.

I was trying to decide whether this would most likely be worn by

a) someone hunting
b) a bearded man in a Didsbury coffee shop (or artisan beer pub)
c) a Mancunian thug trying to suggest they are packing a rifle and so need a rifle patch.

http://www.oipolloi.com/barbour-cutler-crew-neck-forest-green

I'd like a tux with a suede rifle patch.

I think I looked at that exact jumper.

Which look were you going for?

lol Eazy

whatever it is, I don't love it. It looks like the exact kind of thing I'd buy thinking "well, it's a little odd but it's BARBOUR and it's ON SALE"

i don't like the asymmetry. suede elbow patches on sweaters can be cool though. i have a green cable knit sweater with suede elbow patches and i look sharp when i wear it.

<3 my barbour jacket so much but their casualwear is pretty bad

idk I have an aversion to Barbour so I'd get something like this instead (actually I did buy this): http://www.youmustcreate.com/products/aw14-ymc-knitwear/crew-knit-jumper-2/

A few Barbour shirts but its a South Shields thing.

d) a football casual c. 1983. Worn with jumbo cords (slightly flared and frayed at the bottom) and suede Adidas. GIS The Farm.

I fancy buying a cord jacket. A bit sorta "French Sign Painter" rather than particularly smart.

Recommendations for nice cord jackets?

Best *bleu de travail*?

jeans : TK Maxx.
t-shirts : band websites.
DMs local shop.
the rest : Primark.

jackets and walking shoes/boots: Millets
everything else: M&S
Why yes, I am in my mid 40s.

Next, Gap and especially Cos for me.

everything else: M&S

an outlier.

Their stuff is good quality, reasonably priced, and most items in a large size fit me.

My colleagues regularly make reference to me being Man at M&S although only my socks and underwear are from there (and they have not seen the latter).

Kind of feel like I need a new spot. Mostly have been relying on J Crew and Nordstrom. Haven't been happy with Nordstrom lately, feel like their buying has gone downhill. Tried Century 21 a couple times but not much luck.

Goodwill
Last Chance
Value Village
America's Thrift
Lost-N-Found

the latter is my fave, a pretty cool somewhat new place where i have found some really nice vintage shirts/jackets there (as well as records & CDs). plus shopping there is for a good cause:

Lost-N-Found Youth is an Atlanta, Georgia based nonprofit (501c3) that exists to end homelessness for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer (LGBTQ+) and all sexual minority youth.

https://lnfy.org/mission-and-history/

i bought some brooks bros shirts recently and decided i'm only going to buy from brands that are 200 years or older

Fabrics from Mateen and Saeed fabrics on Walthamstow High st.
patterns by Simplicity, folkwear, Burda and taking apart old pieces of clothing.
& then cutting, construction, etc by me. When I can get myself together to do so.

Otherwise various charity shops for external coats.

Boots from leatherup or TKmaxx

Any recommendations along the lines of Carrier Company or Old Town?

https://www.carriercompany.co.uk/collections/mens/products/norfolk-work-jacket
https://www.old-town.co.uk/collections/product/products/the-borough

Nothing to suggest, but I am v interested too. I've always had trouble with trousers, but Old Town Plains feel like they've solved it. Cut suits me, great materials, hard wearing.

Aye, a fan of Plains. Have that vague feeling I should wear something else on some days, though!

I'd like to shop at H&M but I'm just too damn tall. Maybe if I was 5' 10" or something...

never really understood why H&M don't stock long leg jeans, there must be quite a lot of men who can't shop there because of that.

having gone shopping for jeans today, hard to give a shit about High St clothes shops going out of business when they don't stock anything that fits me anyway

Xp
Just remembered this - don’t know if you’ve seen it djh:
http://dieworkwear.com/post/160521653624/the-spring-gardener-look
Good news: advising on brands similar to Old Town and Carrier co
Bad news: it’s basically Monty Don - shop the look.

My bugbear with H&M (sure other stores do it as well) is the way they restock their seasonal wardrobes way too early. Try and buy a T-shirt or some beachwear in August and you won't find one because they've cleared out all that stuff to make way for the winter lines. Try and buy a woolly hat and scarf in February and you can't move for all the T-shirts and beachwear on display.

Yeah I once needed to buy an emergency linen blazer for a wedding in August and was lucky enough that Austin Reed had one on the "80% off - sale ends tomorrow" rack.

X-posts. Thanks Woof. It looked like there might be some good links in there but I haven't managed to buy anything yet! I did recently order a Carrier Company suit (well, trousers and jacket) and the sizing didn't work for me (I've also tried a smock but I looked particularly silly).

The inclusion of Prince Charles in the dieworkwear post is a bit odd.

Old Town are slowly changing their "look". I'm kind of assuming that Plains are a core product that they'll always make.

Remarkably haven't managed to buy anything since reading that dieworkwear post though I am hankering after a new pair of Plains, possibly not in Engineer's Navy Stout Twill (which is my usual choice).

Yeah, I'm feeling the same and thinking about one of the stout twills. My navy linen plains have served very very well this summer (in fact, right now I'm on a long hot holiday and they've been great again). The grey flannel (I think they call it Yorkshire wool now) my other favourite - nice weight for chilly weather.

and haha djh in a late answer to your older questions -
Have a Laboureur bleu de travail and it is a gorgeous colour and good material, but maybe I should have gone 2nd hand - it will take a lot to wear in and look natural.
Got a j Keydge cord slack jacket off ebay a few months back that I like a lot. Too heavy to wear this summer, but looking forward to getting it out for autumn.
if we ever meet, let's check in beforehand so we are not wearing identical outfits.

Honestly there’s lots of great clothes for free. Just gotta check the condition to make sure they’re legit. Usually where I get mine - unfortunately otherwise been wearing the same suits and shirts for what seems like 20 years

^shoplifter

x-posts. I've got the brown Le Laboureur jacket. I did read that the specific colours have specific roles/meanings in France. I asked a French friend about this and he suggested that people would definitely wear the black one for church but otherwise he wasn't sure. I have a horrible feeling I'm rocking a toilet attendant-look.

Lots of UK shops stock Le Laboureur and Vetra jackets ... I'm wondering why their other products (particularly trousers) aren't widely stocked? Too *work wear*?

For anyone who cares, here stocks Le Laboureur trousers (in black only). Really odd cut. Wide and then tapered abruptly in. I couldn't work out the functional (work-wear) explanation for the cut.

https://www.jcosmo.co.uk/

Has anyone noticed how well (or not) Le Laboureur's moleskin jackets wash?

Can't help you I'm afraid - mine's the drill & I've only washed it once.

If only Old Town had a shop in London :(

They regularly(ish) pop up in Spitalfields. Probably worth sending them an email. Labour & Wait have some limited stock, I think?? You can also return stuff if you order it in a standard size (ie. without alteration).

Excellent, I'll check out Labour and wait and send that email. Been putting off getting trousers for months so will do some work in getting what's right for me, for a change

i am (embarrassingly) wearing an entirely uniqlo outfit right now, except for my shoes and undershirt

― max, Friday, 22 January 2010 01:29 (eight years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

feeling this post

Just checked:

Our X-over dress, Unity Suit, Stanley jacket and Vauxhall trousers are on sale in a limited range of fabrics at Labour & Wait, 85, Redchurch St., London E2.

Unity suit, xyzzz! Go full Mao.

I feel like it’s really hard lately to find decently made, reasonably stylish clothing that looks right for an almost 40-yr-old but isn’t in that $200 heritage craft shirt category.

I bought a Laboureur jacket from this garden centre for £59 a few months ago, although they seem to have put the price up a bit now: https://www.greatdixtershop.co.uk/PBSCProduct.asp?ItmID=18433439

Idk how it is where y’all live but those 200 dollar craft build shirts and pants are on sale at smaller (non-brand exclusive ie NOT filson etc) all the time. Generally a half season (temperature-wise; not style-wise) begins but if you are in a temperate clime perhaps it is 4 u

I used to like stopping into Old Navy for basic stuff because it was dirt cheap, but they're expensive now (well, relatively). Bad move imo, the quality is absolute crap and people know it. F'in hoodie $35 and it feels like garbage. Better hoodies at H&M for $25

Just checked:

Our X-over dress, Unity Suit, Stanley jacket and Vauxhall trousers are on sale in a limited range of fabrics at Labour & Wait, 85, Redchurch St., London E2.

― djh, Monday, 1 October 2018 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Unity suit, xyzzz! Go full Mao.

― woof, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Cool - really busy this week, hopefully I can get there at the weekend I want to look as good as The Chairman!

I forget that people on here like Old Town.

Anyway, has anyone bought a [French work wear brand] Vetra jacket? I've got a vague idea I've tried one before and they were tiny sizes but the website I am looking at says "true to size". Any ideas?

ohh I think I had something similar with Vetra a while back - there was a linen jacket I tried on that was too small; then when I hunted online it seemed like lots of their stuff didn't seem to exist above about a French 50 (ie UK 40).
But then I look here and I can see XLs with chest measurements to match.

target

I buy shirts, lots of shirts, from whatever stores sell band t-shirts and/or novelty t-shirts, and wear the same 5 pairs of jeans/shorts every day until my ass rips a hole in them

then I wear them 6 more months

Thanks woof. It seems unlikely that a product available in XXXL is, um, usual sizing.

Learn to sew is good. But probably takes both time and space to do though. But great skill to have if you get the option

Can help create garments you can't otherwise find.

I buy Old Navy jeans when they're on sale, and just pick up t-shirts and hoodies along the way when needed from various places. On the rarer occasion that I need shirts with buttons, I usually go to Burlington.

I over thought the whole sizing thing to the point of missing out on the size I needed but (UK-ers) there's some heavily discounted Vetra stuff, here:

https://www.northern-fells.com/collections/sale/products/vetra-5c-short-dungaree-wash-cotton-twill-work-jacket-jade?variant=31668891680817

Those shoulders on that shirt look kind of narrow. I find workwear to be a bit of a crap shoot regarding sizing. I have to wear shoes with steel toecaps at work and different brands can vary drastically between oversized and undersized. My current pair are by Arco and are a UK 10 because they don't do half sizes and I wear a 9 1/2 usually. But when they were delivered it turned out Arco are on the oversized end of the scale. So it's like walking around in steel toecapped clown shoes. I've got used to them now but the first couple of days I was accidentally toepunting stuff.

Also add to that "is it going to be too big or too small" category: boilersuits/overalls and hi-vis vets in XL that are too small to fit over a L sized lightweight rain jacket.

hi-vis vests

hi-vis vets sounds like James Herriott joined the Blue Man Group.

i bought two pairs of speedos for the beach.

I think I mentioned this on another thread but I had good luck recently with Marine Layer short sleeve button shirts (one hemp and one sort of lineny cotton). They are targeted to my demographic (exurban dads who don't want to completely let go of pathetic attempts to be "cool" but also get that it's a bit pathetic and don't want to try too hard), they fit well, they're well made.

dads of instagram

A sixteen year old has asked for "a cool t-shirt" for Xmas. I know it's subjective and what they think of as cool is going to change the answer but ... any hints?

they're kind of dumb, but I like these:

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/1c/18/2c/1c182c80c8b51fedbd46f706dde02b66.jpg

I got an ad for some goodlooking band and music tshirts on FB, but I haven't seen what teh actual shirts look like or if tehy are actually more real than images on a web[age. But god, they have some nice ones if they are legit.
https://www.cuptees.com/collections/3d-full-print-msd-collection/products/msd-bitches-brew-all-over-shirt
https://www.cuptees.com/collections/3d-full-print-trc-collection/products/trc-mr-fantasy-all-over-shirt
https://www.cuptees.com/collections/3d-full-print-rch-collection/products/rch-hallellujah-i-love-her-so-all-over-shirt
https://www.cuptees.com/collections/3d-full-print-tas-collection/products/tas-animalism-all-over-shirt
https://www.cuptees.com/collections/3d-full-print-xds-collection/products/xds-the-slider-all-over-shirt
https://www.cuptees.com/collections/3d-full-print-jea-collection/products/jea-after-bathing-at-baxter-s-all-over-shirt
are a few of them, each band represented there has possibly another 5 or 10 designs on the site. & if they're not real would be a good idea to duplicate what the image suggests as a real shirt.

https://image.uniqlo.com/UQ/ST3/us/imagesgoods/428166/item/usgoods_00_428166.jpg

Where would you buy a suit that wasn't for a wedding/christening/funeral? (UK)

Also, strangely panicked that Old Town is closing.

Isn't a suit that you'd wear to a wedding/christening/funeral just the same as any other suit?

Funny, I just saw some recommendations somewhere else. Something called Suitsupply, something called Indochino, something called Nicholas Joseph, and something called Balani. Dunno what the prices are, or where these places are located. I saw other people suggest (dunno how seriously) that if you want a nice suit, it could weirdly be cheaper to fly to Vietnam or Thailand and get something custom there.

You don't need to do that. There are tailors based in Singapore and Hong Kong who travel around the West for business. You meet them, they show you their samples & take your measurements. They go home, make you your suit and mail it to you. You get a made-to-measure suit for the price of an off-the-peg one.

Where do you find these
Nomadic tailors

There's lots of them, search Hong Kong trunk shows.

Also, strangely panicked that Old Town is closing.

so it looks like they’re closing their shop and just taking orders from existing customers? (and reducing their range).

There's currently a waiting list to *place an order*, distinct from the wait for the clothes to be made.

My understanding was that they're retiring at the end of the year though that may have changed?

no, i think you’re right on further googling :(

They have been saying for a while that they've struggled to find staff locally.

Oh, I'd missed that bit. I'd had a weird hope that someone might be able to throw some money that way to keep *local staff* employed still. Well, when I say someone, I was thinking Celebrity Old Town Wearer Monty Don.

Reframed question: where would be your second favourite place for buying a suit in the UK be after Old Town?

Drakes, if I could afford it.

That's a good shout.

Caveat - I am out of the game - it's 8 years since I thought hard about suits and casual investigation lately has made me feel like prices at off-row tailors like Chris Kerr have got a bit too much for my cost-of-living and deterred me from digging deeper.

That said

At Drake's prices for coat and trousers I'd think about a travelling tailor as mentioned earlier, one of the MTM tweed companies that cut overseas like tweed addict or stepping up to sort-of-bespoke at Cad and the Dandy or made to measure at Gieves or another row tailor. Choosing your cloth does make the suit feel yours.

Off the peg, something like Paul Smith & take it to an alteration tailor.

For that agricultural old town feeling… I dunno, it feels like putting together matching separates - could you do that with Vetra or someone?

tho can you say a bit more - what's it for, what kind of cloth/cut are you picturing & what's your budget?

Mix and match at carrier company?

They do suits

https://www.carriercompany.co.uk/products/boiler-suit

This might be obvious but I also would not fuck around with things that look great online, not with a suit.

Well, I've only worn Old Town trousers for about half a decade, maybe longer.

Quite often wear one of their jackets, too.

I'd always meant to save up and get a suit from there in something other than Stout Twill but the moment has gone (I've put weight on and would need to go in to the shop rather than buying the same as).

Not exactly sure what I'm after which doesn't help. Possibly something for sitting drinking red wine and listening to Tindersticks.

Did try trousers from Yarmourth Oilskins but they didn't feel right. Carrier Company might be a decent shout.

I got some North Coast black jeans very cheap/new-with-label off e-bay, had never heard of the brand before and found out they are a Marks & Spencer own brand. The fabric is so comfortable and a hard wearing kind of stretchy relaxed fit which is ideal for a lanky fat bastard like myself for both lounging about in and walking through mud.

M&S always used to have an unusually good rep for suits - like best high street option, know what they're doing - & these things change but I'd look round at least. Probably a bit work tho.

Cos's current cuts and fabrics might work.

Tindersticks being fitted at Timothy Everest's on the 2nd album cover. God, if only.

My wedding/funeral suit is actually from the "Timothy Everest at Marks & Spencer's" collection!

i am still fond of Slaters which is probably because i'm the basicest

At Drake's prices for coat and trousers I'd think about a travelling tailor as mentioned earlier, one of the MTM tweed companies that cut overseas like tweed addict or stepping up to sort-of-bespoke at Cad and the Dandy or made to measure at Gieves or another row tailor. Choosing your cloth does make the suit feel yours.

tbh agree on Drake's - despite thinking various things look great and haunting sales I've never actually bought anything except a tie (for my wedding so an important tie tbf)

Cannot help on the other points so useless paras coming up

For alterations used to like London Fashion Workrooms in Holborn, but they've closed apparently. I'm just googling too but if I throw styleforum or askandy into the search then maybe K.S. Tailoring Services, Hidalgo Brothers or Pinnas and Needles look legit (but potentially steep prices). Someone is saying 'fake reviews' about alterations boutique, so idk investigate.

Trousers, always an issue.

Now in the same boat as the rest of ILX UK menswear - Old Town had lured me into thinking this was at base a solved problem, that I had a default, but no, I have to start thinking.

I haven't really needed new work/nice trousers since the pandemic - I've mostly been in workwear because I'm still fully WFH and walking a dog 2+ hours a day, so I'm in Stan Ray 80s painter pants or Saucezhan fatigues or Carhartt twill most of the time.

I always have my Old Towns to fall back on, but I don't know what I'd do for something in that bracket now. My other good trousers are a mess of random buys picked up on sale - Ede and Ravenscroft baggy tweed, Mr P. grey flannel - so finding something right just feels like it's with the gods.

I do recommend the Stan Rays as a trouser that's decently made and more versatile than it looks - depends on the material but the khaki duck is excellent ime.

'a trouser' lol look who's writing for Vogue.

thx for tailoring info. on tweed i went into stewart christie in edinburgh over christmas and it was a delight. beautiful pieces all being made for v wealthy people in texas who only get to wear them when they come over to scotland for their “gathering of the clan” etc. also a gorgeous woman’s riding coat being made for someone in california.

it wasn’t outrageously expensive tho for anyone who a) fancies a visit to edinburgh and b) would like a well made tweed garment.

useful on alterations boutique. something about it smelled off to me. partly why i was asking.

“something” = intensely dodgy “high end vibes in a web UI” lol.

Ordered two different trousers and a three button jacket from Carrier Company and they just don't work for me. Shame.

went to pinnas and needles for my alterations. long waitlist but the experience of going to an anonymous door in soho, ringing the buzzer, going up the classic soho interior stairs to the clutter of the studio is great. as was whichever brother it was that i met. they were more expensive than some other services but not overly much. queuing for my trousers on the stairs and chatting with a bunch of other people with various clothing concerns and considerations.

plus and most importantly:

https://imgur.com/a/eJMgn6V

ugh the ios imgur shortcut no longer works and i can’t remember how to link images from imgur so they embed here. please. it’s v important.

https://i.imgur.com/kHAH4vU.jpg

get in.

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2024/dec/19/goodbye-to-old-town-beloved-utility-inspired-norfolk-clothing-company