Middle Classes: Plebs "Ugly, Rude"

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5jrsO_T1w5_Jsb0-JbCLsO6r7hWEA

If the peasantry can't learn to drink like the rest of us then what hope is there for humanity?

don't understand your link there. across the board tax for alcohol is not a class issue

(well, i mean i know that you tend towards everything being a class issue, but i just think that price of anything rising automatically being an attack on the lower classes is a bit of a stretch)

get shares in home brewing.

Not entirely sure what I was getting at either but direct taxes are always class-skewed by dint of their across-the-boardness.

nah, sometimes y'just can't afford stuff mayne.

Drunk me outraged at threat to raise booze prices, really.

I do kinda think that the government's energies ought to really be directed at making the world less of a place one feels the need to get permanently drunk in.

the govt needs to focus on dealing with the % that are gonna feel that way regardless, in terms of targeting the problem, and not by charging everybody more for it.

i concur. i grew up working class and it was shit. my whole family are fat, boring, narrow minded thick animals. all the people i associate with now are uni educated and middle class. i would be happy if i never saw another violent, scrounging, ignorant pleb again for the rest of my life. i don't even care if it's not their fault they're that way.

seriously, even marx hated the "lumpen proletariat", defending these people is just a guilt complex.

Oh my, I am outraged. Allow me to type out several paragraphs of blustering refutation of your intriguing points.

if this law means there are like, 7% less drunken scumbags harassing people on the bus then i'm all for it.

hate it that the article calls ian duncam smith "mr duncan smith" since duncan is his middle name and he just fronts he's got a double-barreled surname. The twat.

i have a double-barreled name but i just use the first surname. Because i'm not a twat.

i am the anti-duncan smith.

Anti-Duncan Smith is triple-barrelled, shurely?

auntie duncan smith

hmmm, is the above a parody of me, or an imitation? or just plain support? i can't decide.

noodle vague otm. this shit is indefensible puritan bollocks.

it's vile...i need booze to get drunk and the cheaper it is the more i get to drink.

if my calculations are correct

booze is too expensive, if anything.

sure i could be drinking bell's. i could be drinking grant's. i could be drinking fucking tesco's value. but i don't and im being punished for having functioning tastebuds. bastards.

grant's "the exciting whisky".

booze britain is actually a bunch of total lightweights. many people in this country are not now vomiting into their sleeves on a bus home. this can't go on.

more booze, less money for booze, and no discussion of booze apart from suggestions of going to consume booze.

xps must apologise i've gotten that totally wrong, it should be glen's, and glen's is "the exciting vodka", not whisky.

I think the main thing that always makes me think that higher alcohol prices don;t dissuade drinking is that if people are so dissuaded from drinking alcohol by higher prices how do you account for the existence of pubs.

THEY'RE A VITAL PART OF THE SOCIAL NETWORK YOU PHILISTINE

http://www.pubstay.org.au/images/PubTypes/LocalPub.jpg

LETS ALL HAVE A DRINK IN A RELAXED AND SOCIABLE ATMOSPHERE

WILL YOU HAVE A DRINK

I WILL

WHATREYAHAVIN YERSELF

CANT EVEN DRIVE HOME NOW OHOHO WHOOPS!

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/10/03/Hotel_William_050928035727893_wideweb__300x383,0.jpg

SEXUAL OFFENCES DON'T HAPPEN IN THE PUB

NO GARDA I ONLY HAD A SWIFT HALF CANT UNDERSTAND IT MESELF

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YOU NEVER KNOW WHO YOU'LL MEET AT YOUR LOCAL PUB

http://www.artshole.co.uk/arts/artists/Paul%20O%27Halloran/pub-fight-large-copy.jpg

http://images.hostelworld.com/images/tours/37534_8902_1.jpg

HELLO THERE OVER 18 YEAR OLDS

i have to get a taxi there now, but sure how else will i ever find a wife?

http://www.absolutearts.com/portfolio3/p/pandora/The_Auld_Fella-1162551319t.jpg

THE PUB, SUPPORT IT, WANT IT, NEED IT.

if you were a social problem alcohol wouldn't give you a hard time about it

SUPPORT YOUR RURAL PUB YE FUCKERS

DON'T READ THIS

THE 800 rural publicans who were "forced to shut their pubs" in the past three years have made over €120m by selling licences that cost them nothing.

THEY'RE TRYING TO BAN CHRISTMAS

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01484/pub_1484146c.jpg

so then

sure i could be drinking bell's. i could be drinking grant's. i could be drinking fucking tesco's value. but i don't and im being punished for having functioning tastebuds. bastards.

― free the charmless but occasionally brilliant Dom Passantino (history mayne), Sunday, January 24, 2010 1:52 AM (2 years ago)

ikr it's a hard life

kids at work have to do this stupid fucking "alcohol awareness" course co-sponsored by the Portman Group that appears to have been written in 1998 and not updated since

"hey you kids, alcopops are bad, mmmmkay?"

cue kids looking at each other wondering what the fuck alcopops are

anyway i assume this revive is dedicated to Andrew Mitchell, here's a classic bit of Spectator support

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2012/09/andrew-mitchells-gate-gate-havent-we-all-been-there/

pretty sure they still sell the same shite even if they dont call them alcopops, assuming anyone outside of rothermereland ever did

thing is the yoot don't really drink them cos they're too fucking expensive

idk abt this dude

why did the cops not let him thru anyway

u feel he didnt want to be the victim of a demeaning diary story

the thing is "guy in uniform being a cock" is something we can all relate to but when you're chief whip for a cabinet already getting hardzung on the regular for their toffishness then "pleb" is probly not the way to go, he'd be in less trouble if he'd called the copper a cunt tbh

yeah i think he admits swearing

tone of news/voxpops is weird.... like it is ok for cabinet ministers to hate plebs so long as they do it in private

i likes how some bro said 'he has some very powerful forces against him' 1 was police fed 2 was the sun and milibands lot were an afterthought at 3

nu labour struggle to take the highground on ex public schoolboys

theres still a big diff between 25% old etonians and the shadow cabinet withs its mix of minor public school, 'real people' and miliband types

u can feel that police would actually be quite hurt by being called plebs when they spent much of recent history being the. conservative party's go-to method of pleb control

but it's so contrived when cameron would happily get shot of the cunt but can't even ask for a resignation lest the vultures circle

the vultures appear to be mostly Boris Johnson

some might say he has a nerve calling people out for antagonising the proletariat

Lucukily in the US we only have the middle class and parasites and I'm pretty sure there's some part of the Constitution where it's illegal to call a cop a parasite.

his idea that cops should arrest everyone who swears at them is the sort of thing so stupid and unfeasible that we might have to take the bloviated sociopath and bantuh legend seriously as a future heseltine

I can't believe the Police Federation said he should resign, though. That's both awesome and a bit creepy. They should have suggested that, as a man of noble birth, he should have retured to his home and fallen on his sword.

cops should arrest everyone who swears at them

they already can/do, Public Order Section 5. Yeah, I watch shitty reality cop shows :(

yes but johnsons idea is that they should aiui

even at 3am outside an irish chain pub in luton

What's the legal basis in UK, public disorder? Or is it specifically connected to the dignity of the constabulary, 'cause the latter can suck my dick.

insulting behaviour, so I think it applies to everybody

public order powers are pretty wide but police usually have more to worry about than being called cunts in the sort of situations where they do get called cunts

So you can be arrested for calling anybody a right cunt?

the old common law breach of the peace is pretty elastic, so yeah if a cop was feeling officious enough probably

There was an infamous case where a teenager was cautioned for using the f-word in a conversation with his friend that was overheard by a passing police officer.

it's all about the intonation.

sorry by f-word I mean fuck not the other f-word

francismaude?

that's the one

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9559159/How-Andrew-Mitchell-turned-his-anger-on-me.html

what a charmer he seems to be

though really...the psychology of anyone qualified for the job of TORY WHIP was something we could all guess anyway, right?

I find the psychological aspects behind the incident interesting.

Anyone who has resources like millions of pounds and houses in London, their constituency and France - and yet spends the majority of their time on abysmally boring issues is pretty odd. The only reward is some kind of abstract sense of power - and when that's challenged, they go berserk.

though really...the psychology of anyone qualified for the job of TORY WHIP was something we could all guess anyway, right?

exactly! isn't the job basically about being a bully all the damn time?

it's so hard for me to believe that a human being in 21c britain used the word 'pleb' though. 'plebs', as a general term of class disapprobation, i can imagine someone saying, but 'pleb' as an insult? it's not even satisfying to say. truly they are another kind.

and by 'they', just so we're clear, i mean tory mps and their ilk.

but seriously i have spent a lot of years in oxford and overheard a lot of tossers say a lot of unpleasant things and 'plebs' is still a surprise.

It's not an attitude restricted to just the 'tory mps and their ilk' - you don't need to look too closely at any of the major political parties to find people with some dodgy assumptions of 'effortless superiority' and 'born to rule'.

exactly! isn't the job basically about being a bully all the damn time?

always amused by the idea of anybody being intimidated by gyles brandreth

this is running into next week

cameron should have got shot immediately when he could still claim some 'decisiveness' cred to offset the 'poor judgment' stuff

still there is all this nonsense about re/de-toxifying the conservative party

people know what the conservative party is about, if they don't then they deserve a whole fucking vial of toxins injected into their spleen

Why are they taxing our life-saving medicines?

http://www.drinkingandyou.com/site/pix/middle/illust/jshape%20graph.gif

http://www.drinkingandyou.com/site/pix/middle/illust/jshape%20graph.gif

that might mean something if it was adjusted for tobacco, obesity &c and other vices less likely to affect the dour and puritanical

Would you rather pay for our rehabilitation from strokes?

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Dammit:

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The doctor prescribed 3 drinks a day!

those odds ratios are...not impressive

are u a drunk or a doctor, come clean here

neither, sir

Reducing your chance of dying in any given year by 20% by having half a drink daily, or reducing your chance of having a stroke by 35% by having 2 daily, are not trivial advancements for humanity.

that isn't how those work, you're thinking of relative risk

http://dickshunery.tumblr.com/post/20330524415/pleb

So apparently this Mitchell guy is coming apart at the seams on Twitter as I type?

https://twitter.com/a_mitchellmp

uhm

I'd like to get my statement in now as many of tomorrows papers will have been put to bed I took to Twitter in order to give my side of the story, away from the pruning & editing control of DSPO.What I say and said here are my own words, thoughts and sentiments.The responset of the Twitterarti has been vulgar,violent,agressive and ill-informed and I wish to set the record straight.Now,like many people after a day at work,I was tired and agitated.I said some things that I regret.I wasn't entirely in the right frame of mind nor feeling exactly chippere.I have a hard job.Harder than most.Anyway,I regret what I may have said and I

*chipper

However,my treatment by Cameron(someone I once loved, respected and trusted)has been disgusting.As has how I've been left out to dry by the so-called 'Conservative Party'.They are not the party I signed up with all those years ago.Cameron took me aside yesterday and said "Andy,you've made a fool of us.We cannot begin to undo the damage you have done". This is a man I've known for 20 years. A man who shared a car with me all the way from Brighton to Birmingham,telling jokes and laughing at the cartoons in Viz magazine,a man who gave me a bottle of Crozes Hermitage '68 at the beginning of last week as a gesture of friendship.A man who I would've supported through thick and thin a man who,in times of crisis,would quote Wodehouse and make us all feel better. Well, that man is gone.In his place:a traitor

that is....not likely to be him

also a hermitage might last 44 years but probably not a crozes....he's going to feel hurt being impersonated by such plebs on twitter :(

Please, spare me the cavils about truth and untruth.

the "lol" in one of the earlier tweets gave it away really

lots of love

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/9559658/I-dont-believe-that-Andrew-Mitchell-let-loose-the-explosive-P-word.html

in which matthew d'ancona is driven to bourdieu

this fucking prickman

do working class tories never, ever get the feeling they've been cheated

wilful ignorance, prejudice and myth-dreams of personal responsibility and self-making know no class boundaries

trouble here is lack of 'narrative'.....he abused the police, that's it, if there's no lovechild or offshore account it gets forgotten