iPad apps S/D - might as well get this started

I wasn't going to get an iPad for awhile, but I'm revising that schedule now that Netflix streaming is supported on it.

HOWEVER just looking at these music making/controller apps makes me want to get one immediately.

Anyway, here we go...

i hav like 25 of these bitches, bow down

Popular Science magazine/app looks cool:

http://kottke.org/10/04/a-nice-ipad-magazine

how did they get the ipad to project the images onto the table???

My 3G iPad came today!!!!!!! This is my first ilx post on it!! What should I download?

www.instapaper.com

i don't own an iPad, but i've used Instapaper on my iPod Touch, and man it's great

can only imagine the newest version is even better than the one i used

i prefer instapaper to safari tbh

I have an iPad! But I can't use it till Tuesday unless someone in NYC with a MacBook wants to come to The Gershwin and let me boot it up via their iTunes.

the Gershwin!! do they still have comedy nights downstairs?

Yes, we were at one last night when we got back from the Empire State Building!

What's ILX like ON IPAD? I've been kinda assuming that just using Safari will be fine.

It's a pretty good experience. Much better than using safari on the iPhone. However, I think an app would be cool, especially to do like a dual pane with your bookmarks or thread list.

Instapaper's lush on the iPad.

Other apps I've got (downloading via iTunes UK on the iMac and syncing across); Marvel, Minigore HD, Plants vs Zombies HD, Worms HD, Magic Piano, Nat Geo World Atlas, NYT editor's choice, and Tweetdeck. iPad native apps so much nicer than using iPhone apps.

must be some mofo on here bought an EU ipad

I bought one

Various of my coworkers have been waving them around today and yesterday. Wondering how much more they get paid than me that they can afford to buy every new thing Apple brings out. Looks pretty shiny, but for almost 600 quid I'd like it to do more than 300 quid gadgets, not less

(leaving thread now, carry on with your scheduled Apple adoration)

got mine yesterday. feeling v magical and revolutionary right now.

only disappointment so far is ibooks - there are no books licensed for the uk yet, only copyright free project gutenberg ones.

there are no books licensed for the uk yet

Let's see how big that "yet" ends up being. I bet six months.

i only checked last night, but apparently there are some up this morning: http://www.mobile-ent.biz/news/37285/Paid-e-books-now-live-in-Apples-UK-iBooks-store

I was just in iBooks and there non-Gutenberg books for sale in there.
Xpost

Well now I look like a pranny.

wait what are these for again?

just look how happy owning one can make you:

http://cdni.wired.co.uk/659x425/a_c/1_10.jpg

This thing is too damn reflective

so if you can't read it outside the main idea is for something to read the net while lazing around the house? that'd be nice i guess but i have better things to spend £400 on right now

Guardian eyewitness app is great. Instapaper is a must-have

had a play with one today in-store, very nice

a lot heavier than I expected tho, must be pretty tiring holding it for prolonged periods

would love one but not at the current price

I had a go on one my boss brought in the other week, and the first thing that jumped out at me was how grotty his screen already was with smeared fingerprints.

He did show me a nifty looking Adobe app, some kind of Photoshop/painting thing, I forget what it was called but it was a bit like Brushes (which I have on my tooch).

Cant see myself ever having use for one of these (esp as a pc/netbook replacement - how do you type on it? Hold it with one hand and jab with the other? Sit it awkwardly on yr knee and type normally?).

Mind you those music apps Chris posted up top are killer, and THAT I find interesting, esp the air harp!

my SO wants one for bday but her nerd frenz warn her abt no flash. big deal? not? wsup ilx...

No flash, no biggie. I've been using one this week, very nice, although I can't wait for the iPhone 4 resolution screen to make it to the iPad.

is she really addicted to those "shoot a gopher" banner ads? if so, you may have a problem.

does evony use flash?

Was out today in Belgium. So we bought one today. lolz

hahaha @ sl0cki... whackamole.

I think this has been raised already - but what a pain it is to have pitchfork reviews systematically truncated on Instapaper. What is the deal? some scheme to generate further traffic?

- Flipboard (for flicking through your news feeds and social menagerie like a magazine)
- Reeder (for actual Google Reader news reading)
- Note Taker HD (for writing notes (better with a stylus))
- Pleco (for learning Chinese (okay maybe this one has niche appeal))
- Wikipanion Free/Lite/whatever

Zite is pretty great; good at finding me new stuff to read, not just making prettier boxes to fill with links I've already seen on Twitter as Flipboard does

Oooh, ta.

TraxPad is great for dj'ing. Very similar to Traktor.

Mine is coming today. I've set aside about a hundred bucks to app this fucker up; could I get a handful of top ten must gets?

garageband!

Really enjoying Korg iElectribe.

^^me too. except how do i get what i made into garageband?

Garageband, for sure. Very fun.
Zite (free magazine-style rss feeder type thing)
Bing (free, and surprisingly good)
Cloudreaders (free comic book/PDF app)
Netflix (free with subscription, works very well)
Friendly (vastly prefer this to the official Facebook app)

more when I get home.

cool. i really need some help loading this thing up; mostly got it to read comix, watch netflix, do work on site.

is there an official facebook app?

tunein radio & the final hours of portal 2 are both good too

Friendly for Facebook sucks, I hate it. It's hella ugly and doesn't work properly. But then, neither do any of the other Facebook apps for iPad. I just started using MyPad and it's crashy as hell but looks a HELL of a lot better than Friendly. Can FB just come up with a version of their iPhone app already?!

For comics, I paid for Comic Zeal and it's awesome. a whole bunch of great features and shit looks fantastic in landscape mode.

my favorite social media tings include ShowYou - which scrapes your Facebook & Twitter feeds and displays all the videos your friends post on this gigantic scrollable wall. Just touch once to get a closer look and touch again to play. Very cool. Flipboard I like but is lacking, esp when it only goes back a few hours in my feed. Keep loading, dammit!!

For RSS things I LOVE Pulse. Killer UI makes this one the best. It limits the amount of feeds you can add which is a bit irritating, but I've got enough on there to make using it worthwhile.

Zite is full of UI bugs. Bing is not available here because Microsoft is fucked in the head.

Note Taker HD is really good for taking notes. Flipboard is worthwhile for photo streams and Instagram and stuff. tvGuide is buggy but useful (I don't know how many countries it's good for).

more?

instapaper, reeder, itunes remote, eboy fixpix (try the demo first:)

crunchyroll for watching animes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_btMqXGGyUk

That was bad

maven browser free today. worth a try for the side by side screen mode at least

I just got one. I'm pretty sure it's awesome but I have no idea what to do with it yet!

Spread cream cheese on it.

lol

I'm get some of these apps. Any other new ones?

netlfix if you have a subscription to it

i'll post a list for you shortly e. I've gone from trepidation to obsessed with this lil gadget; it's my go to for everything and it took about a month.

also you can get soem free books if you get the kindle app

Yeah got the kindle app already :)

Thanks Forks

dont get "matching animals" it sucks!
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/kids-can-match-animals-vocal/id393993415?mt=8

re. games, I have been playing the wazoooooooo out of Puzzle Quest 2 on this puppy

re. work, simplenote + notational velocity + dropbox, as someone mentioned on this board somewhere, is great. & really Dropbox is great since it gives the iPad a file system, even if you can't really manipulate that file system on the iPad itself.

I am still looking for a good way to keep about 10,000 papers + books organized on this thing, though, since that was the main reason I bought it & yet have not figured out how to do this well.

Off-topic re:apps, but I really wish I could charge this thing via the USB bus on my desktop machine.

mine charges off my usb bus (mb pro) but it takes a long time, like 5+ hours

Okay, for starters there's a bunch of subscription services that are worth getting on for ipad access.

The ones I use are Netflix and Hulu Plus. Both stream easily and well.

Magazines and newspapers where subscription translates to free download: New York Times, Sports Illustrated, Wired, New Yorker, Economist. This'll take care of you for the foreseeable future for reading.

CloudReaders is a free comic reader that doubles as a good pdf viewer.

Dragon offers a dictation service that's kind of astonishing; it's free but requires connection to the web. You can export dictation as a text document and mail it. No good for multiple voices but surprisingly on point for a single voice.

Dropbox and Twitter work fine on iPad and you wanna get the apps if you use those services.

Flipboard is good to use for magazine style reading for blogs and facebook.

Display Link is a free service that requires a download to your PC but then allows you to use your pad as a second monitor.

Skype is like thirty bucks for the year and then your pad is an all purpose phone as long as you're in wifi range. it's VERY handy.

Crosswords is like ten bucks and gives you access to dozens of papers daily.

Crunchyroll is a free Japanese TV streaming service

If you haven't already, get Find iPhone; you can use a PC to find the pad wherever it is geographically

PS Express is free and fine for the most basic cropping/redeye camera work

Games I will Recommend: Dungeon Raid, Cut the Rope, NatlCapitls, Zarik, Infinity Blade, iCut, Stupid Zombie, Paper Train, Colorbind, 7 Words, Smack Gugi, The Heist, Enso Dot, Zentomino, Moxie
Most of these are free or cheap.

We just got one of these.

The British Museum has a pretty amazing free app with tons of scanned 19th Century books, including some with awesome illustrations.

It's all too much for me ATM -- the iPad in general.

ipad owners: do any of you read long documents, e.g. ebooks on these things? how much worse is it than e.g. kindle for that? what is the current thinking on whether these things will get hi-res iphone type displays?

The current retina display is great for comics magazines newspaper books... I dont notice any strain but i have admittedly kinda given up

I use the Kindle app all the time and it's better than the Kindle in every way except the display quality. Thinking on Retina display is that it's probably summer 2012, but they just bumped the MBA in under a year, so who knows?

There is some eyestrain when you read on the ipad just like there is when you read on a computer monitor, so it probably makes more sense for articles and short stories than for books.

I've read at least six books on the iPad, most in the Kindle app, but a few in Stanza too.
I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who gets eyestrain from reading from an lcd monitor but otherwise it's a perfectly good way to read books.

I've read a bunch of articles & it's been good for that because I can send the marked up articles right to editors (these are referee reports). I haven't read any books on it yet.

I read my knitting patterns on it. Also articles. I am going to read books on'em in due time. I love it. No problems whatsoever with eye strain

pdfs euler? what app do you use to mark them up?

GoodReader. It's ok & someone could do better, but this works for now. The markups are embedded in the doc so people on other machines can read them, which is obviously crucial.

feedly!!

i like much better than flipboard, pulse, etc

I've only had an iPad for 4 days, but Zite is my favorite news aggregator / personal magazine so far.

Yeah, I've tried a lot and Zite's my favourite.

Any good Tower Defense for the iPad besides Plants vs Zombies?

a couple dozen. i'd start with anomaly, which is an inverse tower defense

The geodefense games are good if you like vector graphics.

Fieldrunners.

so I got 1 of these w/ keyboard and am gonna use it as my 'primary computer' (I have a v. old laptop to use when necessary but my life involves v. little non-text content creation / programs that can't be ipaded)

onlive is...amazing? how is this even legal?

ya that program kinda weirds me out that it even exists

gj buying an ipad 3 weeks before the new ones come out i guess

I bought a refurbished ipad 2 for $419 because I needed a tablet right now for day-to-day stuff and I did not think that whatever money I would have saved when the price goes down a tad was worth not having an ipad now. I would have also bought a refurbished ipad 2 'when the new ones come out'.

wtf at onlive desktop.
when did this go live?

1) what is onlive
2) what is the latest on ipad3 release/ipad2 price drop

onlive streams a windows desktop to your ipad, a desktop w/ word, powerpoint, excel and a mouse

the pay version also lets you use internet explorer, with which (I think?) you could use flash stuff

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/23/technology/personaltech/onlive-desktop-plus-puts-windows-7-on-the-ipad-in-blazing-speed-state-of-the-art.html?_r=2&nl=technology&emc=cta1&pagewanted=all

ipad 3 march 7, nothing about 2 price drop

uh, that 1 gig per sec element is news to me; that's sick.

thanks dudes

Thanks to

- iThoughts HD (for Freemind-like mindmaps)
- TouchDraw (for Visio-like flowcharts and org charts)
- iMockups (for Balsamiq-like screen mockups)
- Notes Plus
- iDesk
- wireless keyboard

my workflow at work is suddenly insanely awesome.

Also picked up Notability the other day. Looks like a really good competitor to Notes Plus and Note Taker HD, but I need to play with it a bit more.

love flipbook

er flipboard

Paper is really good. The simplicity makes it easy to just open and draw stuff. No pen thicknesses, no colour pickers etc. The colour tool (watercolour brush thing) is fiddly though, and the provided colours aren't labelled, so people like me draw orange grass.

cloudon - onlive stripped down and easier to use

I'm after an app that scrapes out the videos from my Facebook wall and will play them in turn as a background process. Does anyone know if an app like this exists?

Anyone who fancies a drawing app, get Procreate. Zero lag on ipad 3, ridiculously comprehensive brush customisation, lovely interface, e.g. sliders for brush size & opacity unobtrusively right there on the screen. Sketchbook is pretty well thought out too but it has slight lag and the ui just feels slightly less friendly, although it's hardly thrown together. ArtStudio actually wins on the toolset - dodge/burn, blur, gradient fill, select tools, all missing from procreate & sketchbook, although you can kinda fake them with smudging, opacity & layer effects - but the ui is cartoony and unwieldy. iDraw has massive massive lag.

otm, procreate is really quite incredible

Any recommendations on a text editor with Dropbox integration that can open text files with any extension, not just txt? In particular I want to edit Tex files (not run Tex, just edit the files.

notesy does that (just checked it will open a tex file)

cool, thanks!

i don't use it for serious editing (ON IPHONE) so not sure if it's up to that

yeah not really into serious editing ON IPAD just on flights etc I might wanna tweak my beamer nahmean?

caek, dl'ed this & synched it with nv on my mbp via Dropbox but don't see how to access my full Dropbox file system. Is this doable?

it's a bit hacky, but under settings > dropbox, you can change the folder there. you have to type the name.

it seems like it's kind of geared to using NV ON IPHONE (i.e. flat directories)

yeah I dig that, have been using simplenote that way for a while, but I sometimes just wanna f with tex files on the run too. The hack will do!

could I also add some kind of symbolic link in my notesy folder to my other db folders that I want to access in notesy? my unix majick is weak

yeah, that works. just checked.

e.g. open up terminal and do something like

ln -s ~/research/writing/importantpaper/ ~/Dropbox/notes/importantpaper

where you change the two paths as necessary

first path is the directory you keep your paper in, second path is going to show up as a subdirectory of your notesy db.

it will also show PDFs in that directory. it lists them as "not a note", but if you tap them it shows you the PDF

yeah I can do that; would be even sweeter if I could just navigate to my dropbox folders & edit what I'd like, but I'll take this. feel like "folder structure" isn't really a thing in the new iOS world & maybe I should try living more in that world but I have lots of papers & talks in various stages of completion & I'm used to keeping them separate. & I still keep multiple drafts of docs in progress b/c I want to know what version I sent to so-and-so so when they give me comments I know what they're talking about, & so things get messy. gotta figure all this out. anyway thanks!

i tried putting "/" as the notes folder path in notesy's settings but i think it got confused. you could try that though?

multiple drafts is, in the long run, enormously simplified by using version control, although that doesn't obviate the need for folders, and there is a learning curve.

but yeah, folders are old school. my adviser has a separate folder for everyone he's ever got email from. smdh.

Just how good is NoteTaker? And are there any decent apps that convert handwriting to typed.... words? For some reason I'm finding it hard to phrase this very simple question. I'm going to bed.

note taker hd is good but looks like it was designed by a linux user. notes plus has decent handwriting recognition but performs like shit on the retina ipad.

Linux-esque design = unintuitive?

it's not the most attractive or minimal design you've ever seen

http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/uplink/id522659218?mt=8 <- i don't have an ipad but the orignal was awesome so i presume this is too :D

If anyone is interested in really attractive iPad digital magazines, check out the German magazine Done or the Japanese magazine Katachi.

suddenly the ipad is usefull

http://www.retronaut.co/2011/10/icade/

played w/one of those in a store the other week. the stick is a bit too loose, but it's otherwise p. good. Paperboy was spot on, and I died in the usual locations.

ios 6.1 has killed a load of adobe-based magazine apps (they crash on opening if there's no data connection). fast company and gq中国 have issued app fixes so far.

in other news, i just bought this -- http://readdle.com/products/scannerpro/ -- so we'll see how that goes

― markers, Thursday, February 7, 2013 3:20 PM

in other news, i just bought this -- http://readdle.com/products/scannerpro/ -- so we'll see how that goes

― markers, Thursday, February 7, 2013 3:20 PM

― markers, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:36 (Yesterday)

is anyone subscribed to wired via newsstand? will i need a wired account to subscribe or can i just do it via the app w/o an account like what i did with the magazine?

you can just do it via the app w/o an account like what you did with the magazine

it's independent of everything, and you don't even need to give condé nast your email address etc. if you don't want to

cough

of course the excellent maura magazine maintains superb quality without being half a gig per issue

it slices it dices it juliennes

let's talk about pdf management. at this point i haven't started doing heavy pdf reading on my ipad, but at some point soon i'll want to be able to read some books and academic articles and stuff. right now i just shoved a few of them into ibooks, but that doesn't seem like a good long term solution. is dedicated pdf app + dropbox the way to go? or is there a better way? this is going to be a mess, isn't it?

for what it's worth, i don't think someone who's just going to read a few pdfs needs some sort of system, but i anticipate using this for open access books and academic articles mostly. at least that's what i know i'll use it for now. i'm not in academia but if the people who are and who do this kind of crazy pdf management stuff can shed any light on the situation it'd be appreciated.

― markers, Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:45 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

as far as the app portion of the system goes i guess there's pdf expert, iannotate, good reader, other stuff? i'd like the best in class app, really.

― markers, Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:46 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

one of the reasons that spotify's cool for music is because you no longer really have to manage a music library. and although shit like this exists -- http://chronicle.com/blogs/profhacker/browzine/47955 -- i'm still going to have to manage a pdf library for a while it seems. some philosophy books from re.press, some stuff from open humanities press, journal articles from that open access journal, dissertations and shit people post to their personal sites.

― markers, Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:48 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

one last thing: it seems to me like something involving dropbox or something like dropbox would be ideal because you don't want to just import a bunch of pdfs into an ios app a la ibooks and then have them stuck in there. how would you go about getting all that shit out? you'd probably have to sync with itunes or email everything out, which is just shitty. the goal is to make shit portable enough that whatever app i'm using at the time is interacting with the files but not holding onto them

― markers, Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:51 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I just tried this to see if it worked. Using Google Drive, I dragged and dropped a file into my Drive on my work PC. Then I opened Drive on my phone and opened the PDF and it worked perfectly. So that might be a good workflow.

ok dope. thank you.

still thinking about what direction i'm going to take, and i've at least eliminated goodreader as an option. my guess is that my final setup will be either iannotate or pdf expert and dropbox. something like that. once i get this set up i don't want to have to change it for a while.

went with iannotate

markers: I use Papers --- http://www.papersapp.com/papers/. It’s excellent.

I'm using the official Youtube app on my iPad, and I've no big complaints except for one huge annoying 'bug'. When I go to my favourites, it will only go back as far as the last 80 faves or so. After that it just stops, is unable to scroll any further. I've 500 something faves, but I just can't access them through this app.

Does anyone use an alternative Youtube app that's good? And might nog have this bug?

thats not a bug but a restriction deliberately coded in the app. they probably do an enhancement update at some point that will correct this for you.

Traktor currently free

http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/8/4502810/ios-apps-and-games-go-free-five-years-after-app-store-launched

Bummer, Traktor requires ios 6 and I have a 1st-gen ipad.

download it itunes anyway and then you have it if you upgrade?

yep

i mean, it's twenty bucks otherwise

there's also day one and some games

i got infinity blade ii, traktor and tiny wings

thanks 4 the heads up-- i hate games but downloaded a few of those anyway

Are there any iPad web browsers that don't aggressively try to reload open tabs; or, in Chrome or Safari, is there a way to turn off this ish? Sometimes I like to read web stuff while I'm in the subway so I'll load up some tabs before hopping on. Some pages, even after I've let them fully load beforehand, will auto-reload when I jump to the tab. Do I need to get familiar with one of those Read It Later apps?

I haven't tried Opera yet, which does this al fine on my phone.

Safari's browser has a built in read it later function that's pretty easy to use

Is that the Add to Reading List thing? Cool will give it a whirl later today. Thanks!

yeah the little pair of reading glasses iirc

I think browsers have limited access to system memory and so they are forced to shut down open tabs and reload like that. Also check out Pocket for saving articles for offline reading.

ok just got one of these. academia ppl. take me through it.

1) what's the best app for offline pdf reading and maybe a little light annotating. last i heard was goodreader, but that was years ago. will that app also allow me to save pdfs to it from the web (e.g. ios safari) and dropbox? if not, how do i get the pdfs on there?

2) what else should i have on there for reading/research?

afaict from the app store ratings, goodreader basically doesn't work on ios7

willing to sacrifice annotation if necessary

1) what's the best app for offline pdf reading and maybe a little light annotating.

I doubt it has annotation, but I use

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cloudreaders-pdf-cbz-cbr/id363484920

As my PDF etc. viewer. You have to manually move the PDFs from your computer in iTunes I think but the files view perfectly ime

*Although I haven't used it since it was updated, and it sounds like iOS user "DS9Sisko" has had some trouble with post update. But it's free so worth a try.

by manually move you mean connect the ipad to the computer with a wire? i have a big library that changes all the time, so i would really really really like to avoid that.

Oh, also you can just use Google Drive. No wires needed.

I haven't found a proper PDF management solution for myself yet, so I'll be interested in opinions on this.

However, from test runs and temporary solutions, I like PDFexpert better than Goodreader - decent annotation, handles dropbox well, can chuck things to it from safari, comfortable to read in.

I can see upthread that markers settled on iannotate. I didn't try that.

For reading/research more generally… if I find something on my laptop, I'll get it to the ipad using instapaper for simpler articles or Evernote's web clipper (+ premium account for offline access) for more complicated things. Evernote premium also has that magical thing where you take a picture of a book page (screenshot it in ios), then upload it & it'll OCR it and make it searchable. Amazing for magpie quote collecting.

huh, haven't used goodreader since updating to iOS 7 but it's been my standby for years, good dropbox sync, good enough annotation (nothing beats paper for ripping into your latest referee job imo but it's good enough)

have been disappointed with iOS pdf options, in short; bought this thing thinking it would be an epic portable library but I dunno

I use the dropbox and acrobat apps for this stuff

I can see upthread that markers settled on iannotate. I didn't try that.

fwiw this is no longer true although apparently it once was

pdf expert for me

DO NOT buy it right now though. they're putting out a new version for ios 7 and it'll be a separate app

http://readdle.com/blog/2013/11/announcing-pdf-expert-5/

your choices as far as i could tell when i researched this shit was iannotate or pdf expert if you wanted something that was a little more fully featured. good reader came up too i guess but whatever

markers, please could you bump this when pdf expert gets released?

yes

Is there a way to dump my old ipod bootlegged mp3s on to an ipad?

http://readdle.com/products/pdfexpert5/

haven't bought it yet, but there's a good chance i will

ty

http://thesweetsetup.com/apps/best-pdf-manager-editor-ipad/

so flipboard is eating zite, which sucks cause I really liked zite and don't really like flipboard

I said exactly the same thing on Twitter and the Flipboard CEO was nicely responsive:

https://twitter.com/NickyD/status/441343748585185281

feel like my 2nd gen iPad was fine 12 months ago but now cant do anything w/o crashing

that's interesting alba

And here's an interview with the Zite CEO:

http://readwrite.com/2014/03/05/why-zite-flipboard-acquisition-cnn-perfect-news-reading-experience

i threw my ipads in the trash yesterday (gen 2 and 3)

can we talk about office for ipad? what do you guys use on the desktop for word processing and what if anything do you use on your tablet (probably an ipad)? right now i have pages on there, but i don't use it.

feel like my 2nd gen iPad was fine 12 months ago but now cant do anything w/o crashing

― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, March 6, 2014 11:53 AM

put 7.1 on it if you haven't already. beyond that, the thing came out in 2011, so. (i am aware that they were still selling it until very recently)

I use Pages on both; the icloud sync is actually p. good. Will try Office, but saving to cloud from the mac is a bit fiddley

you can actually only read w/o an office 365 sub

maybe another feature too, but no editing or creation

don't most people still fuck with office though? like, if i write something and want to use the word processing features of a word processor, i'm gonna wanna use office if that shit's to be compatable w/ everyone else's setup? (say, if i were to write a manuscript or something)

WTF Line. I got an iPad for my parents because all their friends were using Line. Turns out you need a smartphone to create an account OR add friends to your list because they intentionally crippled their iPad app. THANKS, DICKS.

that sucks. I don't like line but my mpq alliance uses it and it's also where the mpq meta-alliance stuff happens (truces etc)