JADE MUST KEEP HER CLOVES ON!

alex in the bathroom was a prince

I think I should be more worried about my ever-growing affection for PJ, though. Maybe it's the new haircut.

alex's sense of entitlement is mostly sublimated into his vast list of Rules of Civilised Behaviour, which is why he is alpha male

i missed most of johnny's funning, and rather like his mordant bleakness => i think he and jade are the only ones who don't have ANY obvious sense of entitlement... jade's petulance is as much an instinctive reactive tactic as her babytalk or her "stupidity"

Now I would guess that you like this selfishness because it works against everyone else's selfishnesses, which tend to be more passive. I can see the appeal of that and I really wish Jade would confront eg Tim more (of course nobody does confront Tim, the great frustration of this BB) or even Alex as it would be more entertaining. But generally that's why Jade annoys me.

yeah jade does just talk over everyone all the time, but she doesn't get huffy about the right to it being blocked or anything (i'm not sure that she's aware that she does it and others don't) (also of course no one has worked out how to block it!!), so i wouldn't call that a SENSE of entitlement, just something she does because it sort of works

my sistrah when small once piped up when an adult was cutting the cake: "Be fair! Give me the most!"

She is right of course. PJ loses by not realising until it is far too late.

EXTREME CLOSE UP of Jade on 6 foot projection screen = even I see her piggyness.

"Arrr. this is it man" = PJ MUST GO!

Alex sleeps in a FONG!

(I liked how the labels for covering up the brandnames were covered in Avery logos)

Mark, I think your early assumption that Jade = punXor is bearing out less and less as the programme continues - and surely it is Jade who has the greatest feeling of entitlement in the house (just because she cannot necessarily rationalise it as such does not mean it does not exist). Her going off to cry in the corner antics, her aggressive arguing style all screams that she needs to be centre of attention - which is the entitlement she has always had in her life.

(NB I didn't see it as I was eating curry - not kebabs - but I think I could've coped)

I just think it was a bit sad losing every round of "strip think while you drink". She didn't have to take all her clothes off, and then her puny attempt to hide all her bit was just laughable (as ALex curled up on the range after his previous - would you have thought it - flirtation with Carpet Burn Kate).

bear in mind i'm trying to explain why *i* don't get bugged by her (or johnnie) AT ALL, so i am actually exploring a real distinction i am making, even if i am miscuing or misdescribing it.... "aha but!!" doesn't really cut it, unless you can supply a version of the distinction which i am likely to be responding to (thus "she is a brainless teenage girl" won't work as it only quite poorly describes johnny")

Emma I am a well known fan of the hem hem larger lady and I felt no such temptation re. Jade. There was something about the drunken squealing and wriggling which was a bit horrible - nothing to do with what was on show. Still grebt TV though.

Jade is hardly fat.

btw "kebab" as slang for female bits = UGH to the power of 103545.

i am a vegan you know. heheh

The scheming to keep their sticky labels, and the thrilling game with the cereal toy, revealed to me just how desperately bored they have now become and I had a moment of uncharacteristic sympathy for them all. Even PJ.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/4742628/Through-her-dignity-in-dying-Jade-Goody-shows-us-all-how-to-live.html

^^^^GREAT JOURNALISM 10/10 V INSIGHTFUL WOULD READ AGAIN A++++

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jade-Goody/23583141168

250,000 fans! Remind me, what was her talent again?

She sounds like a fax machine, is that enough?

On the tombstone, it shall read "BRAVE Jade Goody".

Jack's will read 'I BRAVED Jade Goody'

COME ON SHE HAS CANCER

ONLY BRAVE PEOPLE HAVE CANCER

btw I am aware of the need to be nice to people who are terminal but goody wants to go down in the headlines amirite

^^ pc nanny state elitist

No seriously for all that she's a horribly annoying woman who shouldn't be famous she's still a woman who's going to die in a few weeks.

and for all that, it's the press coverage people b. hatin on right now.

Is she actually famous in Australia or are you guys just being the lamest Anglophiles ever?

No we're english.

(arent we?)

I'll go with the latter.

i just heard of her today for the first time on the radio, where they were talking about how there has been a massive spike in younger UK women going along to get themselves pap smeared as a result of the publicity. that is surely a positive result?

There has been; my girlfriend has organised her first one pretty much as a result of this - she'd been talking about how she ought to get one for a couple of years, but has finally booked one. At our surgery there is a five week wait for them at the moment, thanks to a huge surge in bookings. It MIGHT be just coincidence, but I seriously doubt it.

Kylie had that effect here as well. So clouds, silver linings &c.

I just think it's a sad comment on today's society that its role model turns out to be someone who made her money because of being deliberately encouraged to be stupid on television, swearing at an Asian woman on television and marrying on her deathbed a man who's been imprisoned for beating people up. What a legacy to leave to her children.

And all courtesy of dear old Max Clifford and the complicit media.

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do people really view her as a role model? i should have thought people would follow her activities more out of a sort of maudlin voyeurism than anything else.

But who encourages the maudlin voyeurism, Gem?

Max and the Meejah with all their bogus talk of "charity." That is, when they're not busy encouraging underage sex by paying families to talk about it.

Well, the "total consensus" i.e. everybody thinks so, is that Jade is right in selling her wedding to get as much as possible from the media, so her sons can have as 'decent' an upbringing as possible, in her absence.

The rest is details:
1) Jack being the custodian isn't good news by any stretch
2) More people getting scans
3) If she gets better, she is in Trouble!
4) etc...

I do think there's an element of the Christians being thrown to the lions here.

I have nothing against JG making as much money as possible to provide for her children's upbringing when she's gone although with a choice of Jack or Jeff the term "decent" may be super-wishful thinking. Nor with her publicising (albeit indirectly) the importance of people getting regular scans.

But if she pulls through or even goes into temporary remission she's in danger of a mounting why-isn't-she-dead-yet resentment; see Chris Morris' sketch about the suicidal journalist on Blue Jam.

i don't think maudlin voyeurism is anything new to society. i'm not sure it requires encouragement to flourish. mind you, i haven't a clue who this woman is or what significance she has to UK society so perhaps it's time for me to zip it.

In the olden times people used to torture animals and disabled people for fun. I think maudlin voyeurism is okay compared to that.

i just heard of her today for the first time on the radio, where they were talking about how there has been a massive spike in younger UK women going along to get themselves pap smeared as a result of the publicity. that is surely a positive result?

There has been; my girlfriend has organised her first one pretty much as a result of this

How old is your girlfriend? This is so interesting to me since here in the US it's recommended that you start getting your annual pap smears as soon as you become sexually active. Considering the extremely high rates of HPV infection which causes 99% of cervical cancers this makes sense. I've also known at least 5 women my age (31) or younger who've had abnormal cells found and had procedures to remove them and ensure they don't develop into cancer. I'm pretty shocked at the NHS guidelines and recs regarding paps.

i don't know about the US and the UK but i think in Australia there is a pretty wide gap between what is 'recommended' and what actually happens amongst the general populace. i have relatively regular pap smears done, primarily because i turned up an abormal result fairly early on, but even still, that's generally only when i'm going to the doctor for some other reason (e.g. renew my pill prescription), which is hardly ever (maybe once every couple of years?). i can't imagine i'm alone in not having the reason/time/money/inclination to go along to the GP more often.

Aren't regular check-ups to ensure you don't die of cancer reason and inclination enough?

NHS invites women from ages 25-64 for screening

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Cervical-screening-test/Pages/Introduction.aspx?url=Pages/what-is-it.aspx

It's just interesting because here it's always (well since I've been a teenager at least) really drilled into our heads that you should get annual paps as soon as you're sexually active. I missed one one year and was very nervous when I got mine the following year as a result. We even get letters from out GPs saying we're do for one each year. I generally schedule my annual physical around my pap.

That said, you're absolutely right about people ignoring recommendations etc.

apparently the NHS line is that cervical cancer is very rare under 30, plus smear tests have a very high false positive test. idk if that's accurate. but instead they wanted hpv vaccines for 13yo girls, except that all the papers weeping about jade opposed this cos it would "make" girls have sex.

Who is eligible for cervical screening?

All women between the ages of 25 and 64 are eligible for a free cervical screening test every three to five years. In the light of evidence published in 20031 the NHS Cervical Screening Programme now offers screening at different intervals depending on age. This means that women are provided with a more targeted and effective screening programme.

The new intervals are:

Age group (years) Frequency of screening
25 First invitation
25 - 49 3 yearly
50 - 64 5 yearly
65+ Only screen those who have not been screened since age 50 or have had recent abnormal tests
The NHS call and recall system invites women who are registered with a GP. It also keeps track of any follow-up investigation, and, if all is well, recalls the woman for screening in three or five years time. It is therefore important that all women ensure their GP has their correct name and address details and inform them if these change.

Women who have not had a recent test may be offered one when they attend their GP or family planning clinic on another matter. Women should receive their first invitation for routine screening at 25.

Why are women under 25 and women over 65 not invited?

Cervical cancer is rare in women under 20. Teenagers' bodies, particularly the cervix, are still developing, which means young women may get an abnormal result when there is nothing wrong. This could lead to unnecessary treatment so screening young women might do more harm than good.

Under the age of 25 years, invasive cancer is extremely rare, but changes in the cervix are common. Although lesions treated in very young women may prevent cancers from developing many years later, the evidence1 suggests that screening could start at age 25. Lesions that are destined to progress will still be screen-detectable and those that would regress will no longer be a source of anxiety. Younger women will not have to undergo unnecessary investigations and treatments.

Any woman under 25 who is concerned about her risk of developing cervical cancer or her sexual health generally, should contact her GP or Genito-Urinary Medicine (GUM) clinic.

Women aged 65 and over who have had three consecutive negative results are taken out of the call recall system. The natural history and progression of cervical cancer means it is highly unlikely that such women will go on to develop the disease. Women aged 65 and over who have never had a test are entitled to one.

What about women who are not sexually active?

The NHS Cervical Screening Programme invites all women between the ages of 25 and 64 for cervical screening. But if a woman has never been sexually active with a man, then the research evidence shows that her chance of developing cervical cancer is very low indeed. We do not say no risk, only very low risk. In these circumstances, a woman might choose to decline the invitation for cervical screening on this occasion. If a woman is not currently sexually active but has had male partners in the past, then we would recommend that she continues screening.

http://www.cancerscreening.nhs.uk/cervical/index.html#whatis

I still think that 25 is way too old to start screening considering that most women become sexually active way before that. Yes, cervical cancer is usually slow growing but the important thing is to catch abnormal cells when they're precancerous and can be treated. Let's say a girl lost her virginity at 15 and was unfortunate enough to get a cancer causing strain of HPV at that time. If she waits until 25 to get screened that is more than enough time for those cells to perhaps develop into cancer and even spread as was what happened (from what I understand) in Jade's case. Those guidelines should definitely be changed.

apparently the NHS line is that cervical cancer is very rare under 30

It is rare but the point is to treat HPV precancerous lesions before they become cancerous.

Cervical cancer is rare in women under 20. Teenagers' bodies, particularly the cervix, are still developing, which means young women may get an abnormal result when there is nothing wrong. This could lead to unnecessary treatment so screening young women might do more harm than good.

That's interesting. I've not heard of that before. If that is true then they could still test to see whether the person has HPV and if so it could be assumed that the abnormal results were not false positives and should be treated.

I did read somewhere that the NHS is considering lowering the rec age to 20 which I think would be a very good idea.

Em's 26.

i can't recall when i had my first test... maybe about 21 or 22? I would have been sexually active for 5 or 6 years by then. I think the recommendation is every 2 years here, and the surgery i have been to in the past does send out a reminder. still, it's like many things where the risk seems very remote, it is hard to prioritise the time and money to get it done.

Aren't regular check-ups to ensure you don't die of cancer reason and inclination enough?

you would think so i suppose... but i don't get checked for skin cancer either. i think for many women it is probably 'out of sight out of mind'.

Yeah I think that is the case for a lot of women. Women's health (specifically the sexual and reproductive health of young women) is my area of study/work so it's something that I obviously have a special interest in.

You're definitely right though and I'm not entirely exempt myself. I have been screened for skin cancer but that was two years ago and I've "forgotten" to go back these last two years. It is easy to do. I should probably make that appt soon.

FWIW I became sexually active at 17 and had my first pap that year and have had one annually since. I might be more proactive about it because I did get an abnormal result once and had to be monitored closely for a while.

let's face it, it isn't a particularly pleasant experience either... i like it when lady doctors warm up that duck-bill contraption, makes the discomfort very slightly less. I like that joke:

Q: why is a pap smear called a pap smear?
A: because 'pap smear' sounds better than 'cunt scrape'

heheh. small minds etc.

Ha!

Surprised it's 25 for first invitation. My NHS GP first wrote to me to tell me to get scanned at 21, and I ignored it. They didn't write again until 25, though, but then they wrote again and kept writing every month with increasingly stern warnings until I finally fixed a scan.

I don't know about breast cancer; at one point I would kind of have liked a scan, but I think you can only get one after 50 or something?

I had my first one at 21, you are supposed to get them every three years from there on in, and you get reminders sent through with annoying frequency if you don't go. You are supposed to hear back quite quickly, but the response time for results just now around here is about four weeks - I went for my regular one three weeks ago and haven't had the result back yet, which I can only put down to "the Jade effect" upping the amounts of tests they have to process at the moment.

I think you can ask for a breast scan if you want one, but, yes, they aren't routinely offered until you are over 50. Again, I think it was Kylie's diagnosis that brought that to the forefront of a lot of younger women's mind.

I'm in the UK and I'm sure it used to be recommended to start having them when you were 20 - then every 5 or so years ( I think).

I'm pretty shocked that that many people really don't give a shit enough to just go and get checked - esp as it's one of the more preventable cancers. It takes 10 mins and although it's not the funnest experience, it's way less of a big deal than I would have thought. I was so scared for my first one, and the nurse had a student 'observing' that she was showing all my bits to o_O

Tbh I think every 5 years is a bit lame, a lot can happen in 5 years.

Btw not referring to SM's girlfriend there specifically - as she probably falls into the 'too young to be at great a risk' category - but I would have thought that most women of older age groups would go.

WHen I lived in the UK a couple years ago the rec was once every three years is the results were normal and then sooner if they were abnormal. Here is once every year regardless. I know that the recs are probably at least partly based on the fact that the NHS has to pay for these tests so that once every year might be way too costly.

I just think it's a sad comment on today's society that its role model turns out to be someone who made her money because of being deliberately encouraged to be stupid on television, swearing at an Asian woman on television and marrying on her deathbed a man who's been imprisoned for beating people up. What a legacy to leave to her children.

With that grab bag of disappointments you don't even need to mention Jackeiyeiyeiyiey.

Maybe Jackeiyeiyeiyiey will keep hold of the kids' £1 million inheritance and we can keep this going via court reports for the next few years.

So is this going to be one of those people's princess type funeral mass hysteria things?

PS Why is "Tell Me What to Buy (March)" filed under Marcello & Laura threads?
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So is this going to be one of those people's princess type funeral mass hysteria things?

Yes, it will be, but not quite on the Diana level. Opinion on Jade is too divided to create something quite that big, but it will be a big deal, certainly, when she goes.

they can bury the british media with her [/carlin]

They'd have to exhume its stinking corpse first [/cynical hack]

So is this going to be one of those people's princess type funeral mass hysteria things?
man if this is on all channels like that diana one, i'll be well pissed off.
the only channel that didn't show live/dead diana was C4 and they put horse racing on.

live/dead diana

how long was "Dark Star" this time?

you know what i mean, live footage of dead diana funeral!

Elton John's St. Stephen

Rolling Stones "Lady Jade"

Bee Gees "More Than a Woman"

Max Clifford in optimum bullshit mode: 'I have hundreds of people calling me daily, just wanting an update about her. So far, Oprah Winfrey and Larry King really want to do an interview too.'

all this for a woman who said "didn't america get on with the germans in the second world war"
amazing, it really is.

"If Max Clifford is so good at PR, how come everyone thinks he's a cunt?"
- Viz.

Aww. Send brave Jade a message of support (right next to an upside-down x-ray of a dude's bum full of ball bearings)

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2300745.ece

http://i39.tinypic.com/264nna0.png

It looks as if she may not last longer than the next week, judging by recent reports.

I am beginning to wonder if, when she dies, it will not be quite such a big thing as I previously thought. I have been reading all the Daily Mail stories and comment threads over the last few weeks, and I am wondering if, to some extent, the public will have run out of things to say by the time it actually comes. The Diana death was different, apart from anything else because it came out of the blue, completely unexpectedly.

Jade Goody has been confronted in her hospital bed by a woman armed with a hammer.

R.I.P., OK! Magazine's memorial issue (she's still alive! or something, who cares)

http://www.brandrepublic.com/News/892216/Jade-Goody-OK-memorial-issue-attracts-60-complaints/

i'm confused: some say they don't mind that OK did it and on other sites (okay okay I READ THE DAILY MAILY celeb section) they say the family do mind...

I read she was given a warning FOUR times her tests (pap smears probably) were negative!

Aye, all this pish that's being spouted about how she keeps telling Max Clifford she's just glad that people are considering lowering the age for getting smears as a result of her diagnosis doesn't really alter the fact that if she'd bothered doing anything in response to the results of her own tests for the last few years then she wouldn't be at death's door right now.

(we did this on another thread)

oops sorry about that
really

Looks like her legacy was to fuck over the Sunday tabloids one more time.

Also some weird product placement for Coca Cola.

As well as giving Jade a 'feelgood factor' they have filled her house with oxygen, which has helped her breathing.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/73684/Jade-s-a-blooming-marvel-/

news.google.co.uk thread connections:

TV star Jade Goody dies of cancer
Huge crowds expected at Pope mass

New poll: cancer screening awareness vs international race relations

good luck UK

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03_04/jadecard_302x322.jpg

So...it was the flowers that did it?

M Night Shyamalan was right all along.

my thoughts are with the bereaved at this difficult time - heat, ok!, sunday people

They're not bereaved yet, they still have tomorrow's editions (and maybe relics for sale, who knows)

The funeral issue's still to come. Then they can interview Jack and Jackieyeyeyey week about until the kids are old enough to speak for themselves.

RIP Jade, since no-one else has bothered to say it. Not that the world's a worse place right now for having one less ignorant bully in it or anything.

^ OTM

Dunno what you're talking about, DG. The boys walking behind the coffin is going to make a great front cover shot.

ignorant racist bully, surely

think that's covered by the ignorant bit.

I'm going to not look at British papers the next week, it's beginning.

"The Essex Princess"
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5i6g0DFC_WECw_1bfZ_1pI9cJar3Q

Oh christ. Still RIP. Way too young to die. Leaving two kids behind. :-(

Got to hand it to Max Clifford, helpfully letting the public know she made it three hours into Mother's Day. In the first sentence of the press release.

Eeek at spectacle but RIP, cancer sucks.

Aye, all this pish that's being spouted about how she keeps telling Max Clifford she's just glad that people are considering lowering the age for getting smears as a result of her diagnosis doesn't really alter the fact that if she'd bothered doing anything in response to the results of her own tests for the last few years then she wouldn't be at death's door right now.

How is it pish? It is a fact that it is being considered. It is also a fact that the publicity surrounding this has led to a huge jump in the number of young women having tests and has saved lives. These are good things whether Jade was ignoring the warning signs from her own tests or not. She fucked up, and she's paid for it with her life, hopefully other people are learning from it.

THIS GENERATION'S DIANA

A lot of the things Max Clifford is attributing to her don't sound like things that she would actually say. I wasn't casting aspersions on the content, just the attribution of them. This is more a comment on Clifford than Goody, tbh. I went for my regular smear not that long ago and it took seven weeks for the results to come back, presumably because a lot more people are being tested than usual. This is unequivocally a good thing.

OK. But this whole thing is still an extremely cynical display by everyone involved. Sadly, not enough people are even noticing that anymore.

Hey, I was the first to even add an RIP to my post. Cancer can fuck off and stop killing people, that's a given. But, come on, this is the most stage-managed media-friendly death ever, it's practically inviting cynicism by its nature.

You'd almost think that her dying on Mother's Day was planned...

^ not that much cynicism

KBP gets a cynic of the day crown to wear with his cape :)

Come on, you're thinking it.

Stoked about how the BBC have cutted and pasted a few entries from Stephen Fry's Twitter as a 'tribute'. JOURNALISM AS ITS BEST!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/m4xuk/500px-Dead_goody.jpg

I tried not to laugh there, and failed.

Bit of revisionism from the beeb: "She was later accused of being racist towards Bollywood actress Shilpa Shetty"

Calling someone Shilpa Fuckawalla Poppadom on TV = "accused of"

Cynical thing I have heard this week: death not announced until after Natasha Richardson was off the front pages.

Haha, anyone heard the interview with the bishop calling her a kind of saint? Mind. Blown.

C of E Bishop saying that "In a very real sense, that's a bit like Jesus"?

http://insidestoryflashcards.com/printable_flashcards/images/easy/flabbergasted.jpg

She died at 3.14 - isn't that suspiciously precise? 3.14, pi, pie, ready for a Mr. Kipling/Bernard Matthews licensing deal?

Stan, I wonder if we'll have a Morel spectacle on our hands as well. Although in STORY she proclaimed she waq doing well. Or was it some other rag? Can't remember. Or maybe some gossip site I was visiting during my photography class. :-)

Ok, after reading the whole bit on the four negative tests: I was a bit hasty in judging she should have pursued it. Apparently they did test her for cancer but appeared it wasn't the case (except the last time duh). Maybe a bit of 20/20 hindsight on my/our part.

I never really believed the "oh noe positive I no I'll ignore it and do BigBro India and it will go away" posit.

Anyway, am I the only one thinking "Lock thread, it's all been said" ?

Someone should raise awareness of murder by murdering Max Clifford.

OK, I was wrong.

Russell Brand's tribute

The backlash on the Daily Mail site (from readers) hit as soon as she died. So weird to behold.

It's not really a backlash. Opinion on her is very divided. Sometimes, before she died, the Daily Mail ran separate stories, seemingly aimed at separate constituencies. Anti Jade comments attracted massively positive ratings on some comment threads, but the same comments would have earned equally negative ratings on other threads. The Daily Mail likes to do that - press different buttons.

Jade Goody musical is to be made
By Fiona Pryor
Entertainment reporter, BBC News

Jade Goody passed away on Mothers Day in March
A musical based on Jade Goody's life is being created, a former business partner and friend of the late reality TV star has confirmed.

Danny Hayward, who is in charge of the project, said he is planning to hold open auditions to fill the lead role of the 27-year-old herself.

"Jade was just an ordinary girl and the person who plays her will reflect that," he said.

"The most important thing is to give someone a break, just like she got."

'Dream'

He said dates for the auditions will be announced in three weeks' time.

However, Goody's former publicist Max Clifford played down the show.

"It's an idea that's got legs, but it's nothing definite. It's not all signed and sealed, but it's something that's likely to happen."

He added that if the production did go ahead he would help promote it and cast the lead roles.

"I got very close with Jade in the last year and spent a lot of time with her," he said.

Earlier this month, Clifford revealed he had been in talks with several film companies about making a movie based on Goody.

He told Radio 1 Newsbeat that they were "serious discussions" because her "incredible life touched so many people".

Danny Hayward, who is in charge of the project, said he is planning to hold open auditions to fill the lead role of the 27-year-old herself.

Televised open auditions perhaps? With a phone-in vote?

said he is planning to hold open auditions to fill the lead role of the 27-year-old herself.

Eh?

Peter Kay would be the nation's choice surely

well, matt lucas being unavailable

Peter is a better singer

http://i44.tinypic.com/2mcc4kx.jpg

A beautiful way to donate £30 to a cancer charity:http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4593/jadex.jpg

A Jade Green iPod Nano with 2 x Swarovski crystals – one on the front left hand corner and one on the back , comes in 8gb and 16gb memory size .

Helping women fight and beat cervical cancer.

A minimum of 10% before VAT will go towards Jo's Trust on purchase of this item.

Whatever you might think of goldgenie it's true to say that their 'Tinchy Stryder Signature Range iPods' certainly are "Redefining Luxury".

"Ten-two, your highness!"

Their jade green doesn't look very jade green imo