WORLD CUP 2010

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No clever thread titles. No fannying around. Just the beauty of the best tournament in the world.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EcBpvUhPBeU/SXdA8LJ8S-I/AAAAAAAAAIc/BZgckmBuEpc/s400/zakumi2.bmp

HE'S READY.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 June 2010 08:57 (fifteen years ago)

I shall play no further part in this thread.

Mark G, Friday, 11 June 2010 08:59 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEVdca9U9LM

doop snobby snobb (history mayne), Friday, 11 June 2010 09:00 (fifteen years ago)

I woke up this morning and the very first thing that popped into my head was "shit the World Cup starts today". It was like being a kid at Christmas.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 June 2010 09:01 (fifteen years ago)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ov1vR6RVtkQ/Scy2zvgOtzI/AAAAAAAABOY/LKy1pHz2gMI/s400/02Vader.jpg

IS TIME

MPx4A, Friday, 11 June 2010 09:03 (fifteen years ago)

Good old Stig Tofting.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 June 2010 09:04 (fifteen years ago)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3226/2674794110_20c8fb916f.jpg

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 09:04 (fifteen years ago)

HE'S MAKING THE CIRCLE BIGGER:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM_Ew6zsnDY

SHE'S WAKA WAKA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRpeEdMmmQ0

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 09:18 (fifteen years ago)

I'm supporting whoever Shakira's supporting

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 09:58 (fifteen years ago)

I didn't know that Chile line up in a 3-3-1-3 formation. I had no idea L-Jagz was managing them to World Cup glory.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 June 2010 10:10 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.3yen.com/wp-content/images/WAKA-WAKA-FONZIE.jpg

Born too beguiled (DavidM), Friday, 11 June 2010 10:15 (fifteen years ago)

As a child I believed that 1-3-3-3 was the ideal formation, based entirely on the neatness with which one could line up a Subbuteo team on the pitch. It left no gaps. You even had a spare defender left over just in case, but he ruined the perfection of it so I'd probably've gone with 3-3-3, had I got the chance to manage in the world cup as a nine-year-old.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 10:30 (fifteen years ago)

I woke up this morning and the very first thing that popped into my head was "shit the World Cup starts today". It was like being a kid at Christmas.

ahah, same here (and I woke up at 4.30am !).
anyone knows why shakira is present at every WC ?? (ok, only the previous one and this one but still...).

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 11 June 2010 10:31 (fifteen years ago)

Shakira's probably the ultimate globalised pop star, more so than anyone from the US or UK.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 June 2010 10:32 (fifteen years ago)

i don't even know what time the first match is. or who's playing. but i'm XCITED

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 10:35 (fifteen years ago)

Opening ceremony at 1pm, kick-off at 3pm.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 10:38 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfcuYtgv_Y0

I actually don't think there's anyone in the world who is more excited about the World Cup than Desmond Tutu. Dude can still work a crowd.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 June 2010 10:41 (fifteen years ago)

<3 Desmond

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 10:43 (fifteen years ago)

And, oh god, the first game's on ITV. Hope they're not in control of the cameras.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 10:44 (fifteen years ago)

They're never in control of the cameras. Commentators sheepishly apologising for a lenghty close-up of a pair of jiggling Brazilian breasts is a World Cup institution.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 June 2010 10:47 (fifteen years ago)

I just saw Mark Viduka on television wearing a brown suede jacket and eating donuts in order to remind everyone THAT NOT JUST ANYONE GETS TO GO TO THE WOOOOORLD CUP

Look out, lovers of fads: it's Louis Jagger in cricket pads! (King Boy Pato), Friday, 11 June 2010 10:51 (fifteen years ago)

Is he still playing?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 10:51 (fifteen years ago)

he's certainly still eating donuts

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 10:55 (fifteen years ago)

Mad rumours going round right now that Thierry Henry has failed a drugs test. If this is true the whole of Ireland is going to piss itself laughing.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 June 2010 11:01 (fifteen years ago)

Mad rumours going round right now that Thierry Henry has failed a drugs test. If this is true the whole of Irelandthe world is going to piss itself laughing.

― Matt DC, Friday, 11 June 2010 12:01 (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 11:02 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.footballtransfertavern.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Henry.jpg

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Friday, 11 June 2010 11:04 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/11/nelson-mandela-great-granddaughter-killed

RIP Nelson Mandela's 13-year-old great-granddaughter, killed in a crash on the way home from last night's concert.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Friday, 11 June 2010 11:06 (fifteen years ago)

:(

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 11:07 (fifteen years ago)

permaban mark g and history mayne

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2010 11:07 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00278/Waldo_Ponce_278323s.jpg

HE'S READY

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2010 11:09 (fifteen years ago)

Via Twitter: "South Africa fan saw BBC mic, said to me: 'South Africa 0, Mexico 3!' Me: 'Really?' He roared: 'NO! THE OPPOSITE!' and burst out laughing."

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

this is taking forever, can they play the first game now? i've got nothing(lots but meh, laziness) to do till 3.

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 11:29 (fifteen years ago)

fuck it, i'm watching old royal rumbles and eating niknaks for 2 hours.

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 11:30 (fifteen years ago)

Watch last night's concert: http://worldcup.vevo.com/

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 11:31 (fifteen years ago)

tinariwen! saw these guys on the smallest stage on roskilde a couple of years ago...

so psyched. south africa - mexico could probably be a pretty good opening game too

sonderangerbot, Friday, 11 June 2010 11:36 (fifteen years ago)

fuck it, i'm watching old royal rumbles and eating niknaks for 2 hours.

Bloody students

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 11:37 (fifteen years ago)

no die antwoord no credibility

Michael B, Friday, 11 June 2010 11:38 (fifteen years ago)

not a student anymore, should be bloody taxpayers

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 11:42 (fifteen years ago)

Tinariwen are the best music in the world for when you're at a festival with a hangover and the sun's beating down.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 June 2010 11:52 (fifteen years ago)

http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab134/ClutchlessBurgers/vuvuzela.jpg

aaaaaaaaaaargh

amuse-douche (haitch), Friday, 11 June 2010 12:13 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.pcs.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/dungbeetle.jpg

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 12:18 (fifteen years ago)

that's 50ft tall right?

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2010 12:31 (fifteen years ago)

R Kelly

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2010 12:34 (fifteen years ago)

What was giant cockroach thing all about (I had the sound off?)

I might have to miss the rest of this to go to a pub.

ailsa, Friday, 11 June 2010 12:35 (fifteen years ago)

ITV's streaming thing = well rubbish.

R Kelly was in Kampala at the same time as me, half the city went to the gig. He played for exactly the contractual one hour and spent the last five minutes looking at his watch. Dude can charm an audience like Desmond Tutu.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 11 June 2010 12:39 (fifteen years ago)

wow this schedule really sucks for people on the west coast.

iatee, Friday, 11 June 2010 12:50 (fifteen years ago)

lol at argentinian training

Don't look at the finger (Ste), Friday, 11 June 2010 12:52 (fifteen years ago)

watching via http://zattoo.com/#UK_itv1

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2010 12:57 (fifteen years ago)

not a student anymore, should be bloody taxpayers
― name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 11:42 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i've got nothing(lots but meh, laziness) to do till 3.
― name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 11:29 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

bloody lazy pen pusher more like ;)

show me your buccina (ken c), Friday, 11 June 2010 13:13 (fifteen years ago)

huh, broke lesner won the royal rumble. forgot that ever happened. football started yet?

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

i'm watching despierta america on univision and the hosts haven't stopped dancing for the last 45 min -- there's a little countdown in the corner too

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Friday, 11 June 2010 13:19 (fifteen years ago)

We found an old Royal Rumble tape at my parent's house from c.1990 that had Rik Flair in a crowd of about 12 wrestlers - no-one was fighting him so he threw himself over fresh air and lay down injured for a couple of minutes.

Missing the opening ceremony :(
Toying with going out for the first game but can't really afford the time out of work :(((

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Friday, 11 June 2010 13:22 (fifteen years ago)

watching via http://zattoo.com/#UK_itv1

It's working for me

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 13:37 (fifteen years ago)

Sounds like some good tunes being played before the matches.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 11 June 2010 13:40 (fifteen years ago)

whatever happened to guardado?

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 13:43 (fifteen years ago)

This is exciting!

Chiles is doing OK so far. I liked the fighter jets roaring past him.

I have just written the fixtures in my diary. In the Guardian's schedule the QFs and SFs overlap! I think this cannot be correct.

It's really exciting.

the pinefox, Friday, 11 June 2010 13:45 (fifteen years ago)

Sounds like the stadium is full of bees

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 11 June 2010 13:45 (fifteen years ago)

... get used to it, if you can

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 13:46 (fifteen years ago)

It kind of makes me think something scary is about to happen to David Duchovny

Don't think any England games can possibly happen during weekday 9-5 hours, by the looks of it? NHS just sent out a customarily charming "if you're off sick during the world cup you will be killed" staff e-mail irregardlessly.

MPx4A, Friday, 11 June 2010 13:48 (fifteen years ago)

embrace the parping, killjoys

MPx4A, Friday, 11 June 2010 13:48 (fifteen years ago)

Sounds like the stadium is full of bees

It's a beautiful sound. I have entire CDs that sound like this.

You NEED John Champion for this.

Michael Jones, Friday, 11 June 2010 13:49 (fifteen years ago)

V exciting!! Love the parping bees imo

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 11 June 2010 13:49 (fifteen years ago)

i'm getting used to it

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2010 13:50 (fifteen years ago)

The parping always makes me imagine the stadium is full of this guy and his pals, having just arranged some particular sweet stones.
http://www.virginmedia.com/images/makka_pakka_christmas08.jpg

Stevie T, Friday, 11 June 2010 13:50 (fifteen years ago)

Fuck off Blatter

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 13:51 (fifteen years ago)

Drury will do.

Michael Jones, Friday, 11 June 2010 13:52 (fifteen years ago)

PASSION. HOPE. BEES.

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2010 13:52 (fifteen years ago)

Pretty awesome having it in Africa

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

and the World Cup isn't bad either

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

Why do they have some dude on the PA system speaking slightly ahead?

Number None, Friday, 11 June 2010 13:54 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tYc7QKYLbE

^ keep thinking this is starting

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 11 June 2010 13:54 (fifteen years ago)

Bets on how long this thread will be come the final?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 13:54 (fifteen years ago)

what is sepp blatter and teddy long's stand up routine like?

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 13:54 (fifteen years ago)

not the vuvuzelas!!! arrrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4MqTCIDKhU

flamelurker (cozen), Friday, 11 June 2010 13:54 (fifteen years ago)

I'm not considering it as starting until tomorrow, when I can stay home and be glued to it all day.

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Friday, 11 June 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)

Kind of awesome to be one if those kids imo

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 11 June 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)

Also west coast truly suxors

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 11 June 2010 13:56 (fifteen years ago)

Release the bees!!!!!!

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 11 June 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

http://i42.tinypic.com/11kfukj.jpg

flamelurker (cozen), Friday, 11 June 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

Vuvuzelas actually quite useful for drowning out Drury

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 13:58 (fifteen years ago)

To be honest, i only watch it for the obligatory hot football fan women in the crowd shots.

not_goodwin, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

whoa pienaar's hair

156, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:01 (fifteen years ago)

Bets on how long this thread will be come the final?

― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.),

5K posts/week probably

Grisly Addams (WmC), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

home after a week away with five minutes to spare, exquisite timing. So are we doing a fantasy thing?

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

how many minutes into the first game before the local director cuts to a shot of a beautiful woman in the crowd?

flamelurker (cozen), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

whats w/ pienaar's hair?

AND SO IT BEGINS :DDDDDDDDDD

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00355/Joachim_Loew_skepti_355495g.jpg

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)

Aguirre, Wrath of God

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

Don't think any England games can possibly happen during weekday 9-5 hours, by the looks of it? NHS just sent out a customarily charming "if you're off sick during the world cup you will be killed" staff e-mail irregardlessly.

― MPx4A, Friday, June 11, 2010 2:48 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

embrace the parping, killjoys

― MPx4A, Friday, June 11, 2010 2:48 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

when i worked in the nhs (2k2 era) they basically let people watch the soccerball in the canteen

sites.younglife.org:8080 (history mayne), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

aguirre, wrath of dentures

156, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

man the ITV SD stream is so gross : (

flamelurker (cozen), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah apparently before my time they called a fake admin meeting during an England game and put TVs and cake in there!

This BBC Liveblog is patently not updating every 30 seconds

WHAT PART OF THE PITCH IS THE BALL IN RIGHT NOW "CHEESEY", EARN YOUR FUCKING MONEY

MPx4A, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:06 (fifteen years ago)

btw lol at this

http://www.theonion.com/interactive/the-onion-sports-introduction-to-world-cup-soccer,17558/

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

lol spurs players

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

Contemplating skiving off work right now...What possible good could I do at work? I hate this west coast timing srsly ugh

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

"Best ball of the match so far." O RLY

Grisly Addams (WmC), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

this is looking like a fucking rout and only after 2 mins

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)

Thank God for DVRs and streaming

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)

link that isn't itv or zattoo plz

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)

veetle do, clint?

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

pienaar's hair looks like it usually does? with the comment upthread i was hoping for some sort of taribo west

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

how are they making so much noise? how many of them are there?

flamelurker (cozen), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

veetle is taking ages to d/l another link plz

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

tvcatchup.com?

flamelurker (cozen), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

oh, it's down; every office worker in the uk must be slamming it

flamelurker (cozen), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

Sounds like the stadium is full of bees

This is where my obligatory Xenakis reference for the year comes in :-)

xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

how about this?

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

Is this the right thread to post score updates for Blueski?

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

how are they making so much noise? how many of them are there?

1000025.

not_goodwin, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZNFYQfjF3M

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)

how many of them are there?

94,000 seats. presumably its a sell out. maybe a third of the spectators have vuzuvelas? pure guessing.

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)

No, I thought I was getting used to the vuvuzelas but I'm not. Have put on Stockhausen's Helikopter-Quartett.

i'm gonna go and talk to some food about this (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)

This is where my obligatory Xenakis reference for the year comes in :-)

It's making me feel sleepy. I once put some Canadian electroacoustic music on during a Cup semifinal and zonked out before extra time.

Michael Jones, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:19 (fifteen years ago)

terrific tackle.

drowning out itv commentators i could listen to children be murdered.

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:19 (fifteen years ago)

This is where my obligatory Xenakis reference for the year comes in :-)

"La legénde d'Eer" one presumes?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

ffs dos santos you'd be awesome if you could actually finish did you learn nothing kicking it with leo

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

Don't think any England games can possibly happen during weekday 9-5 hours, by the looks of it?

What time is our final group game against Slovenia? BBC website has it as 3pm on a Wednesday, so I've been working on the assumption I'll miss the whole thing.

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

"La legénde d'Eer" one presumes?

Mostly, but he used massed horns in quite a few of his works. Might check up on this a bit more when I get home tonight.

Which Canadian Michael? Paul Dolden?

xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

Dos Santos is having a great game apart from the whole shooting-on-target thing.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

Was thinking massed bees more than massed horns (xp)

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

O shit yeah sorry I'm on holiday then so I had it down mentally as one I wouldn't miss.

The second round is Saturday 26th evening or Sunday 27th afternoon depending on whether (if?) England finish 1st or 2nd, quarter finals for Group C guys and semis and final are all weekends/19:30s though

MPx4A, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

I signed Efrain Juarez for Forest on FIFA 09 Manager Mode. He was...useful

MPx4A, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

is it me or are mexico playing 4-2-4? :)

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

30,000 vuvuzelas then? blimey

flamelurker (cozen), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

"...less tuneable than bees."

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

Was thinking massed bees more than massed horns (xp)

It reminds me of a bee army descending on us all when those horns would come in. xp

xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

http://weblog.greenpeace.org/makingwaves/calling-off-worker-bee.jpg

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

every veetle link is so shit

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

that would have been better than that iniesta chip assist btw

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

Terrific save just then from the South African keeper.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

really don't get this scheduling - totally hopeless for latin/north america and even most europeans are at work right now. who did they schedule this match for, the middle east?

iatee, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

Which Canadian Michael? Paul Dolden?

Yes! I think was it Veils, actually.

Michael Jones, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

chiles before the game, watching the s african players dance on to the pitch: "fairly sure andy townsend, gareth southgate or EVEN MARCEL DESAILLY have ever come on to the pitch that way"

"natural rhythm" moment 1 of 10,000

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

the last World Cup kicked off around the same time. i distinctly remember just walking out of the office mid-afternoon to watch the opening ceremony.

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

"why didn't vela just hit it?"

Commentator obv. not good enough at his job to wiki him and find out he plays for Arsenal.

also :( vela

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

who did they schedule this match for, the middle east?

One game in the (late) afternoon, one in the evening, usual set up

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

terrific call by the linesman but :( vela

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

so the vuvuzuelas (sp?) kill the atmosphere and mean no crowd noise, totally shit.

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)

why ":("? there's nothing :( about a goal being correctly chalked off, you cheesy Arsenal nob

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

:D

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

:) was just hoping he would add a couple mill to his price tag this summer.

south africa determined to score that david silva goal huh?

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

wondering how it sounds inside the stadium. I'm pretty certain I would feel nauseous.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

chiles before the game, watching the s african players dance on to the pitch: "fairly sure andy townsend, gareth southgate or EVEN MARCEL DESAILLY have ever come on to the pitch that way"

It's like ITV went "look, Adrian, you're not at the BBC any more, any chance you could pepper your dialogue with a few more racially awkward moments?"

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

think my brother's out there if not yet then soon. will be interesting to see how reduced the bee count is for tomorrow night (assuming it will be).

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

so the vuvuzuelas (sp?) kill the atmosphere and mean no crowd noise, totally shit.

I guess also that people are too busy buzzing to do any yelling?

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

SA looking good

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

I like the buzzing, it adds to the atmosphere for me.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

good point about not hearing the crowd as well tho, might be nice to hear singing for example

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

terrible match so far

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

agree entirely w/ Matt

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

I guess also that people are too busy buzzing to do any yelling?

Not sure you can really watch the game very well either

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

Hope we're gonna get full-on bees + drums for the Brazil games

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

Good game, would be a terrific one if Adebayor wasn't the player bought in to teach the Mexicans the offside rule.

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

so the vuvuzuelas (sp?) kill the atmosphere and mean no crowd noise, totally shit.

Stop harshing my buzz.

Michael Jones, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

Vuvuzelas do kill the atmosphere - exactly the same sound during half-time as when Mexico scored.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, there's no ebb and flow to the crowd noise, doesn't match up with the game at all.

Number None, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

yeah exactly...no crowd noise for entire world cup....

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

Hold on, Mexico have scored?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

I blame whoever produced those Keane albums

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

Imperfect Crowd-Noise Forever

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

I mean people were calling for them to be banned after the Confederations Cup but FIFA trotted out some line about the unique vibrancy of a World Cup in Africa

Number None, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)

yeah exactly...no crowd noise for entire world cup....

Dunno, depends on the fans really? I'd assumed the vuvuzelas were mostly being carried by SA frans, but I could be wrong. Would be a bit weird for the stadium to be making the same noise during, say, Germany v Serbia.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

can I say FUCK YOU ESPN3 for having your beautifully high-quality stream include commentary in Arabic... I just want to listen in!

dan m, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

Dunno, depends on the fans really? I'd assumed the vuvuzelas were mostly being carried by SA frans, but I could be wrong. Would be a bit weird for the stadium to be making the same noise during, say, Germany v Serbia.

The bees were present in every game in the Confederations Cup

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, there's no ebb and flow to the crowd noise, doesn't match up with the game at all.

My thoughts exactly: it's not that the buzzing itself is annoying, it's the relentlessness of it coupled with the total lack of variety in pitch or volume. You don't get the sense that anyone in the ground is watching the game, it just seems to be filled with buzzing robots.

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

haha woman on camera just then was awesome

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

watching on itv but i'm so not keen on the bbc new live text window, why have they crammed all the text on the left now with a huge blank window on the right?

horns aren't bothering me, they were for the first few minutes but got used to it.

mexico seem to be doing to SA what they did to England. SA to win this one then?

Don't look at the finger (Ste), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

lol at this guy on 5 Live, asking the supporters questions but no one can understand him b/c of vuvuzelas.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

SA to win this one then?

Sepp will have his fingers crossed

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

Hope second half will be better. And I hope France x Uruguay will be more exciting. Maybe a fight between Henry and Lugano.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

The bees were present in every game in the Confederations Cup

I imagine a lot less fans from other countries bothered to go to the Confederations Cup though. I live in hope.

Number None, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

SA were picking up in the last few minutes there, i hope they keep that momentum. altho i have mexico to win this 2-0 in the works comp.

Silverstreak on in between games tonight. and i really need to do some shopping

Don't look at the finger (Ste), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)

yeah the vuvus were playing in every game at the confed cup.

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

maybe if mexico score they'll shut up? you're not vuvuing anymore!

flamelurker (cozen), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:12 (fifteen years ago)

I wouldn't think too many people travelled to the Confederations Cup though, no?

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:12 (fifteen years ago)

South Africa aren't very good but they'll win this, maybe from a set-piece. Mexico evidently can't finish and judging by the England game they can't really defend either.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

I swear I've heard this tune before, but it might just be a case of deja vuvu.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

woow

Vulvuzela (Ste), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

woooooooooooo!

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

And they're off...

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

that was an immense pass

Vulvuzela (Ste), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

blimey

flamelurker (cozen), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

lol Tydesley.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

"goal for all africa" oh fuck you commentator. ffs

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

XD

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

Awesome

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

yeah pretty epic tydesley

flamelurker (cozen), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

that pass really was beautiful. and trrfic finish

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

found the English stream just in time for that

dan m, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

xps fucking hell this commentator

Neil S, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

All African teams now one goal up.

GamalielRatsey, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

lol martin tyler 'you can write a thousand songs for a player named ShabalalalalalaLA'

dan m, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

it's a sweeter strike with every replay

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

It's Drury

Number None, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

"what a moment in the history of sport"

what...s africa scoring? what a total twat.

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

xp and he's a c*nt

Neil S, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

Missed it. Arse.

Michael Jones, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

Mexico have been looking awfully static. (I'm watching a TF1 stream, which is almost as annoying as English commentary.)

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

World Cup is lacking some Ray Hudson commentating action.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

So yeah every other goal in this World Cup is going to be a ridiculous speculative long-range ripper, right? England should have put Thudd in the squad for the ball alone.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

this is another game too where in first half, beglin kept saying how mexico were playing better etc, when it appeared to me that they actually weren't, at all.

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

x-post that wasn't a v long range shot was it?

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

You already have Gerrard and Lampard, Matt.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

to be fair Matt it's not like Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney can't hit 'em

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

posted that anyway because FUCK XPOSTS

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

I just find it funny that even when Tyldesley isn't commentating, people give him shit. Probably still deserves it though.

Number None, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

Wish they'd show the goal from swoopycam

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

tbf if dos santos and franco could finish this would currently be 5-1 xpost

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)

How old is Dos Santos?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)

football is for people

LOLOL

Vulvuzela (Ste), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

oh god... "in a little village where theyve only just got electicity".. FUCK OFF DRURY

r|t|c, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

No way is that the first game those villagers have ever seen ffs

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

the whole "little village cam" shit is already fist clenchingly annoying

x-post otm!

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

"That's not even a telly, it's a bedsheet."

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

that goal just as important as the dropkick that won the rugby world cup according to drury. just so you know.

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

every word he says is in this OH THE JOY tone

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

he's going to start comparing that goal with Mandela's release any minute now

Neil S, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

also when s africa scored he did a little mock african accent and roared "BAFANABAFANAGOLLLLL"

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

Dos Santos was born in 1989---was also thinking he was pretty young.

Euler, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

hope someone steals his car while he's commentating this

r|t|c, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

You know the 'little village cam' will be in a pub in Manchester when England score, and in a pub in Liverpool when England concede.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

little england cam

r|t|c, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

"this is the first time they've seen a game here in bury...it's not even a tv it's the xl england shirt of that bald fat man near the front turned inside out"

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

A pub in Liverpool when the dj refuses to spin some phil collins

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

mexico better score, my accumulator is dying on its feet

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

was also thinking he was pretty young.

He games has had all the qualities and all the faults of youth.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

mexico better score, my accumulator is dying on its feet

― Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 16:27 (34 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

name (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

the most important goal since nelson mandela achieved his goal of being released from prison

flamelurker (cozen), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

The Long Ball to Freedom

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

Going straight to the Carlos Vela News blog to see how they rate his performance.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

It occurs to me that Mexico are actually rubbish

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

Was that a penalty?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

also when s africa scored he did a little mock african accent and roared "BAFANABAFANAGOLLLLL"

― Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 16:24 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

i didn't clock who scored at first and just assumed he was improving the whole SHABALALA thing

even more confusing when beglin added a couple more lala's on after

r|t|c, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

* improvising

r|t|c, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

Don't really see why that shouldn't be a penalty tbh

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

The Long Ball to Freedom

― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:30 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

well played sir

Neil S, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

Francisco Rodríguez totally knocks Modise w/o any ball contact or frankly even any attempt to make it.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

the worst part is he prob had rehearsed bafanabafanagoal

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

Probably because the guy didn't dive, that's usually why those aren't given

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

come back Big Ron, all is forgiven

Neil S, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

GET IN THERE

show me your buccina (ken c), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

no horns!

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

equaliser!

Neil S, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

oohoh

Vulvuzela (Ste), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

no fucking horns!

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

(sorry.. prediction league result now correct)

show me your buccina (ken c), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

lol the vuvuzelas fall silent PAAAAARRRRP

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

blanco loves those short corners but he f'd that one up

dan m, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

quite certain that Marquez is the most attractive player of the tournament so far.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

good thing there was no defense

dan m, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

they've left apartheid unmarked at the back post there and it's nipped back in to ruin the greatest sporting moment of all time

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

oh shit no more goals plz

show me your buccina (ken c), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

Missed that too. This whole working-at-work thing is well overrated.

Michael Jones, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

they've left apartheid unmarked at the back post there and it's nipped back in to ruin the greatest sporting moment of all time

ahahahaha

MPx4A, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

a rubbish goal all round

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

Rafael Marquez was my hero for no real reason at the last world cup

MPx4A, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

blanco looks like he can barely even run

flamelurker (cozen), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

Mexico might nick this I reckon

Neil S, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

Worst thing to happen to the African continent since the ebola virus

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

yeah looks that way

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

espn radio broadcast slightly behind actual game: learned about the goal BEFORE the announcers. heee!

tommy smith (pre-mexico goal): "sun is not shining in the stadium anymore but the sun is certainly shining in the hearts of the south african fans."

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

Ronan, you utter genius

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

what's Jim Beglin got against Uzbekistan, then?

Neil S, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

Too hard to pronounce

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

tommy smith (pre-mexico goal): "sun is not shining in the stadium anymore but the sun is certainly shining in the hearts of the south african fans."

Read somewhere that Tommy Smith once said, quote, "I don't mind n***ers, but I wouldn't want one as a neighbour." Not that relevant, just felt like mentioning it

I wonder if heaven got a Netto (DJ Mencap), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

xp apparently not enough to just patronise South Africans

Neil S, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

oooooooooooh

Vulvuzela (Ste), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

world peace, thwarted by a post

show me your buccina (ken c), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

how long must s africa bang the ball against the post of injustice

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

a nation held its breath? surely a continent?

flamelurker (cozen), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha keeper off his line ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
HA HA HA HA HA

show me your buccina (ken c), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

show me your buccina (ken c), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

(er.. anyone listening to radio?)

show me your buccina (ken c), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

that post was FW De Klerk, standing in the path of Nelson Mandela's long ball to freedom

Neil S, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

peres has come

ho ho ho

Vulvuzela (Ste), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

South Africa should be gutted not to have won that - bet ITV pundits don't take that view, they're just happy to be there

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

a draw, the fight continues.

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

mexico's defence is woeful

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

A 1-1 draw shows just how far this nation has come.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

Shame it wasn't a Tutu.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

Zulus Mexico

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

This World Cup being held in Africa has brought the continent back 40 years and forward 20 in the hearts and minds of ITV commentators all over the world.

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

I really hope South Africa don't go out as a result of a controversial refereeing decision.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 11 June 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

here's something nate silver made about the world cup, i don't know or care to know anything about this game, this "soccer," but it looks like it might be useful somehow, it's neat looking anyway, soccer on you soccer heads

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/3517/spi6112010.png

del griffith, Friday, 11 June 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

^ US stats obsession LOL

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

spotted on my local MLS borad:

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k82/nowak10/d7d7ce2f.jpg

dan m, Friday, 11 June 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

TF1 has Pires as an 'expert' commentator and they just asked him what players and what formation he would use if he were Domenech. LOL

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 11 June 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

are england really more likely to win the world cup than portugal?

show me your buccina (ken c), Friday, 11 June 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

They've got a easier route to the final I think

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

xp they don't have brazil and spain in their half of the draw i guess?

joe, Friday, 11 June 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

I still think it's possible that Portugal won't even get out of their group.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 11 June 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

same

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

anyone needing some cheap digs at usa, i wrote this...maybe only funny if you're 11, or maybe not even then, but nonetheless...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_8730000/newsid_8735300/8735318.stm

Ronan, Friday, 11 June 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)

you wrote it?

haha at manchester team everton wednesday

Vulvuzela (Ste), Friday, 11 June 2010 16:31 (fifteen years ago)

anyone needing some cheap digs at usa, i wrote this...maybe only funny if you're 11, or maybe not even then, but nonetheless...

Nah, thumbs up man

MPx4A, Friday, 11 June 2010 16:50 (fifteen years ago)

The BBC have Drury-free highlights up on their website commendably quickly. SA goal was beuatiful

MPx4A, Friday, 11 June 2010 16:51 (fifteen years ago)

I lolled at 'rimshot'

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 16:55 (fifteen years ago)

According to Akamai, web traffic to global news sites today is up by half on the previous record set on US election day in 2008.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

Bummer. I only watched the first half of this game. The sound of vuvuzelas was insane! BTW, we figured out it's a B flat.

the subject of many men’s thoughts (daavid), Friday, 11 June 2010 17:12 (fifteen years ago)

'everton wednesday' got a big guffaw from me, immature titters throughout, great use of 'soccerball', 9/10 imo

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 17:15 (fifteen years ago)

WHERE'S BORGHETTI? i miss him

he would score like ten goals @ this game

moullet, Friday, 11 June 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)

where would I buy a vuvuzela?

flamelurker (cozen), Friday, 11 June 2010 17:40 (fifteen years ago)

Tesco has them.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

ty :)

flamelurker (cozen), Friday, 11 June 2010 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

I wish I had one in my office.

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 11 June 2010 17:53 (fifteen years ago)

Adebayor as pundit!

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 18:07 (fifteen years ago)

Gary Walker's nicknamed him 'Manu' as you can't say 'Lazy cunt' before the watershed.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 18:11 (fifteen years ago)

ffs, could just hear Lawro moaning on about something in the background then. Couldn't they leave even one negative cunt at home?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

Need to start an Adebayor "Of course" drinking game.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

Jesus christ, Hansen communicating in sign language to Adebayor

Number None, Friday, 11 June 2010 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

pretty thankful for henry's hand ball right about now

flamelurker (cozen), Friday, 11 June 2010 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

Should have asked Adebayor about Gallas...

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

Wonder if this stadium will give us swoopycam action?

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

ou est le jibester

harbly formed dn pun (zvookster), Friday, 11 June 2010 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

Mexico looked dominant in the first half but poor final pass/finish cost them (see also: Mexico anywhere ever). SA looked really composed and in control for most of the second half and probably deserved more than a draw. Hoping for another draw tonight to win some money.

Going out for the evening and watching Fra vs Uru when I get back - guarantee someone will randomly say "what about that France/Uruguay goal eh?" to me before I get home.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Friday, 11 June 2010 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAdGzreAEFI

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 11 June 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

LOLVOU

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

gah! espn 'live match audio' is playing Espn news Lakers basketball wtf wtf wtf. GAAHHH. Fuckers!

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 11 June 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)

boy this r a dull game

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

Interesting game this. Diaby has had free rein over the middle of the park to the extent that it didn't look like anyone else is there. Uruguay's cramming and jamming at the back has kept France out, though - the effective scrappiness of their defending is weirdly reminiscent of Greece in '04, except Uruguay like playing in the other team's half too. Forlan looks like he'll create something more than anyone else in the game. He's quite the player, isn't he?

Think there'll be a goal. Difficult to tell who'll score it.

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 11 June 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

Oh yeah I am sure lj is loving this. doesn't make it less dull.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)

At least it's only nerves, though. Not every single pass going sideways.

Damien Johnson chatting to Lee Dixon isn't the same as Ray Stubbs looking terrified of Marcel Desailly. Particularly that time it was raining, and there was only one umbrella. And Marcel had it. And Marcel could not have been happier about that.

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 11 June 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

I wish there'd been a winner this afternoon, it would've raised the stakes a bit here. Both sides here are far better than the two this afternoon I reckon, they just look much sharper.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)

when did toulahan get so old?

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

Can you get Five Live commentary on red button? I tried earlier but can't figure out how...

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 11 June 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

watching on French tv & the announcers keep referring to the referee in red as "le Chinois", when his nationality/ethnicity obviously ought to be irrelevant...but that's France for you.

Euler, Friday, 11 June 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

And he's Japanese.

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 11 June 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

it certainly is a nation of many left backs

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

haha that's great!

Euler, Friday, 11 June 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

Tbf, France have a little reason to be peeved at his refereeing.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 11 June 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

Can you get Five Live commentary on red button?

Only on Sky, not Freeview.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

I'm on Virgin. Flaps. There's a stream on the Beeb site, but I have a nice big telly that doesn't have buffering issues, so.

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 11 June 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

Why IS Malouda not playing? Mystic Meg ask if Domenech was SINGLE? today?

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

Lodeiro + Suarez = Hopeful fun times. :)

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

And here's Nicolas Lodeiro, one of Tim Vickery's favourite subjects. Then again, the way Vickery writes about guys, it's like they all have golden paintbrushes for feet.

Lodeiro appears to be about 5'3".

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 11 June 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

lol it kicked off

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

Anelka's first WC match? Really?

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

forrrlan! wait... that didn't go in?????

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

wow that Uruguay sub has a proper S American footballer haircut!

Neil S, Friday, 11 June 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)

Yup, he's always been too young or stroppy or playing for Bolton to even make the squad before

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

I'm going to be thoroughly sick of the note b-flat by this time next month.

Grisly Addams (WmC), Friday, 11 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

So basically instead of crazy Jabulani-induced 25 yarders we're getting a month of piledrivers which are deceptively eight feet wide

MPx4A, Friday, 11 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

FFS WHY IS IT ALWAYS ARSENAL PLAYERS?

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

we're getting a month of piledrivers which are deceptively eight feet wide

France were doing this 20 minutes in ffs.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 11 June 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

Anyone seen Diaby during the past 15 minutes?

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

lol Henry claiming handball

dan m, Friday, 11 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

DRUDGE SIREN HENRY CLAIMS HANDBALL DRUDGE SIREN

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

yeah lawro wtf using ribery and gignac out of position in each others positions...

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)

EVERYONE IS EVEN, WE ARE ALL EQUAL...PRAISE THE BEES

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 11 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

That was alright. Pleased that France showed a bit of urgency. Would've liked a bit of competence too but hey ho. Those two should go through, but won't.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

It was like Arsenal on a bad day.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

I am rooting for another day of ties tomorrow

iatee, Friday, 11 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

Eeh. Uruguay fought hard - nervous, limited, but they've spirit about them. They can get out the group, may well get better as the tournament goes on.

I did the predictor spreadsheet earlier, had France somehow making the final where they lose 3-0 to Holland. The 3-0 to Holland bit of that is the only really plausible bit now.

I dunno. Not a good game, exactly, but one that sort of eases you in a bit. Also, if you thought that was bad - South Korea vs. Greece starts things off tomorrow...

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 11 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

xpost

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1196/659183829_d872bbbb4d_o.jpg

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

france should urgency? whens?

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

I hope they put that text on the tickets xp

iatee, Friday, 11 June 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

Adebayor's eyes have turned suspiciously red since half time.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 June 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

that fella from bolton v. ninis >>>>> ribery thinking about kids and not starting malouda v. lodeiro not starting and getting sent off in 5 mins

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

Not a great opening day tbh, despite all these wonderful shots of villagers watching the magic box etc

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

I didn't know Gourcuff was Casey Affleck. I'm pretty sure this is the only way I've ever seen France play (without Zidane)

The nation's most valiant right back (Suedey 2), Friday, 11 June 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

Franc are frustratingly lacking in options for actually scoring.

In other news, Alexei Lalas should be euthanized.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 11 June 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

I bet Argentina - Nigeria tomorrow could be exciting.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 11 June 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)

Shearer meets Rooney- like Frost/ Nixon with even worse haircuts.

Neil S, Friday, 11 June 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)

I like Rooney, he at least tries to answer the questions.

ffs Shearer blowing his own trumpet - did he edit this himself?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 20:45 (fifteen years ago)

yeah he gives it a go. Shearer on the other hand makes Garth Crooks look like Paxman.

Neil S, Friday, 11 June 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)

That was a terrible game - Domenech was mental not starting with Malouda and France looked pretty terrible. Sidney Gouvou annd Abu Diaby FFS.

Can't work out whether it actually is the ball or whether all those shots swerved wide because the players are just a bit rubbish.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 11 June 2010 22:06 (fifteen years ago)

govou transparent as usual but that's pretty harsh on Diaby who orientated play quite well

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 11 June 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)

Not a great opening day tbh, despite all these wonderful shots of villagers watching the magic box etc

― Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 June 2010 21:33 (Yesterday) Bookmark

haaaaaa

nakhchivan, Friday, 11 June 2010 23:05 (fifteen years ago)

i can imagine so many americans tuning in today and being like wtf, this shit is weak.

i missed the first match, but uruguay/france was such a snooze.

tomorrow's only bright spot is argentina/nigeria. us, england? can hardly think of two teams that play less gracefully.

dell (del), Friday, 11 June 2010 23:18 (fifteen years ago)

you're wrong on that latter point

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 23:24 (fifteen years ago)

sorry, i didn't mean to dis the greeks

dell (del), Friday, 11 June 2010 23:25 (fifteen years ago)

2010 will be the year Slovenia redefine "the beautiful game".

dan m, Friday, 11 June 2010 23:26 (fifteen years ago)

someone hasn't seen Switzerland play 'football'

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 23:29 (fifteen years ago)

slovenia, algeria!

dell (del), Friday, 11 June 2010 23:29 (fifteen years ago)

HTML Playground needs Dell's picture-thread response to the WC tbh

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 23:32 (fifteen years ago)

what is this "hot tamale playground"?

dell (del), Friday, 11 June 2010 23:35 (fifteen years ago)

it's great art iirc

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 June 2010 23:42 (fifteen years ago)

Domenech was mental not starting with Malouda

I think BBC said something about some bust up with Malouda y'day at a team meeting.

thanks for the chad props, yes "rimshot" was the subject of a "can we say that" discussion, it gets funnier each time i hear it even tho didn't intend it in a rude way at all.

here's the bonus web clip that we couldn't fit into the tv piece: http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_8730000/newsid_8735400/8735409.stm

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 12 June 2010 00:24 (fifteen years ago)

Been digging the bees today. Keep thinking it's this about to start https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIlkiLj32eQ

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Saturday, 12 June 2010 00:27 (fifteen years ago)

just saw the o.g. again and 'the wieners are on me' = haha oh wait shit :D

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Saturday, 12 June 2010 00:34 (fifteen years ago)

govou wearing number 10 is an insult to zidane

Michael B, Saturday, 12 June 2010 00:40 (fifteen years ago)

They're pretty good at reminding people why to hate them.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Saturday, 12 June 2010 00:54 (fifteen years ago)

that independent cover is v dope imo

gonjasufi smacker (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 12 June 2010 01:30 (fifteen years ago)

Obama v Gerrard? Tough call.

flanimal collective (Upt0eleven), Saturday, 12 June 2010 01:44 (fifteen years ago)

Things John Terry did not say to Wayne Bridge's girlfriend:

"Now it's time to deliver"

AMIRITE

gonjasufi smacker (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 12 June 2010 01:48 (fifteen years ago)

First game tomorrow: 4.30am pst
Get up to watch, or watch on TiVo in the afternoon?

Feel like it's the World Cup, should make an effort...but ugh single digit morning time...then again: naps!

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 12 June 2010 01:53 (fifteen years ago)

wow imagine he'd gotten her pregnant and she'd chosen to keep it xpost

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Saturday, 12 June 2010 01:53 (fifteen years ago)

anyone needing some cheap digs at usa, i wrote this...maybe only funny if you're 11, or maybe not even then, but nonetheless...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_8730000/newsid_8735300/8735318.stm

― Ronan, Friday, June 11, 2010 12:28 PM (9 hours ago) Bookmark

don't even have the guts to make it so that americans can watch it.

mizzell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 02:07 (fifteen years ago)

i wish i was back in a bar in brooklyn watching this match 2moro

Michael B, Saturday, 12 June 2010 02:12 (fifteen years ago)

"reaching final could boost UK economy by 2bn pound"

iatee, Saturday, 12 June 2010 02:20 (fifteen years ago)

aren't we giving that straight back to you tho as reparations

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Saturday, 12 June 2010 02:22 (fifteen years ago)

no last I heard you were giving us the english channel

iatee, Saturday, 12 June 2010 02:24 (fifteen years ago)

oh shit, just like london bridge

good luck rebuilding THAT shit in the arizona desert mind

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Saturday, 12 June 2010 02:28 (fifteen years ago)

damn yeah that's gonna be double hard without mexicans

iatee, Saturday, 12 June 2010 02:31 (fifteen years ago)

Carlos Vela's Bridge to Nowhere

156, Saturday, 12 June 2010 02:35 (fifteen years ago)

hey veg grrl, west coast here too. 4:30 is ruff stuff but skorea greece can't be worth getting up for right. i'm gonna try to get up thursday for argentina though, that'll hopefully be worth it

156, Saturday, 12 June 2010 02:45 (fifteen years ago)

Time zones suck imo. Good call on Thurs Argentina...solidarity!

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 12 June 2010 02:52 (fifteen years ago)

My timing was great for an East Coast visit, I should actually be able to keep track of the matches in real time. Caught both today and was baffled by some of the ESPN commentary, so many well polished cliches. Also I kept thinking Ally McCoist was talking about "France's white men" rather than "wingmen."

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 June 2010 03:45 (fifteen years ago)

You'd think South Korea vs Greece didn't look promising but tbh it can't be any worse than last night's second half.

If it's not hurting, you're not lurking (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 08:33 (fifteen years ago)

I recorded France vs. Uruguay. Should I not bother watching?

First WC bet up - double on two draws yesterday turned £2 into £20.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 09:17 (fifteen years ago)

Was in the pub so just kinda lost interest as it went on, football was decent enough at times but there was no real excitement. First group game syndrome.

If it's not hurting, you're not lurking (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 09:25 (fifteen years ago)

Watch it on fast fwd!

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 June 2010 09:27 (fifteen years ago)

Not a bad plan

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 09:32 (fifteen years ago)

Loving the vuvuzelas btw, it's like having the Taj Mahal Travellers playing thru every match

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 09:39 (fifteen years ago)

South Korea v Greece = battle of two blokes who sit on Celtic's bench. Exciting times!

Vuvezelas = a giant bluebottle in your ear, or a temporary attack of tinnitus. Was watching England v Pfunk Allstars or whatever they were called the other day and the other half thought I was watching motor racing.

ailsa, Saturday, 12 June 2010 09:41 (fifteen years ago)

WC highlight show on ITV4 now, I'll make do with that, though I love the way the ball bounces on x2 fast forward.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 09:42 (fifteen years ago)

Vuvuzelas = 2 minutes of "oh that's really loud and sounds great" then 88 minutes of "actually they're really shite and completely kill any sense of the game affecting the crowd so stfu!"

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 09:44 (fifteen years ago)

Vuvuzelas = La Monte Young doing the in-game entertainment

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 09:45 (fifteen years ago)

Calling bullshit on the notion that the vuvezelas mean you can't hear any cheering as a goal goes in - you could hear the crowd after the South Africa and Mexico goals. But there are other things (brass, chants, drumming etc) that would get completely wiped out.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Saturday, 12 June 2010 09:45 (fifteen years ago)

y'all need to get with the drone imo plus here's hoping it drowns out any cunts with trumpets playing "The Great Escape".

Also it was awesome the way the drone stopped for a minute after Mexico equalised.

Predict TV producers fucking with the sound levels to take them out or amp them up as and when they please

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 09:47 (fifteen years ago)

I do wonder whether South Africans are even into football - it seems to be all about the vuvuzelas, spotting yourself on the big screen, and cheering absolutely everything. There was even a reference in the commentary to swathes of empty seats after half-time. Reminds me a little of the IPL.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 09:50 (fifteen years ago)

Vuvuzelas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ITV commentary on that South Africa goal

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 09:52 (fifteen years ago)

xpost

This is all big sporting events tho. Lots of English teams averaging 5000-odd gates suddenly find 30,000 fans from somewhere if they got to Wembley.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 09:52 (fifteen years ago)

LOL WHAT'S THAT BIG HUMMING SOUND HURRRRRRRR

sites.younglife.org:8080 (history mayne), Saturday, 12 June 2010 10:12 (fifteen years ago)

getting out of bed at 7am on a saturday all excited to watch greece vs south korea makes me feel alive. <3 the world cup.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:15 (fifteen years ago)

roberto martínez in the espn studio. i really love the way his accent has come on. schmeichel-esque. superb.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:18 (fifteen years ago)

ooh hello korea girls

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

a lot of empty seats in that crowd wtf?

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:25 (fifteen years ago)

bzzzzzzzz :(

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:26 (fifteen years ago)

greek economy, greeks gods, usa vs england all get a shout out before the coin toss.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:27 (fifteen years ago)

whats with the stuttering reception itv ?!

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:34 (fifteen years ago)

Seems fine here Ste, where you watching from?

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:36 (fifteen years ago)

GET IN

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:36 (fifteen years ago)

Oh yeah!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:36 (fifteen years ago)

xp , from uk, seems to have stopped now as well

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:37 (fifteen years ago)

i'm in uk, Manchester, not noticed anything.

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:38 (fifteen years ago)

sound was ok, picture just freezing. only happened about four times but yeah seems to have sorted out now.

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:39 (fifteen years ago)

South Korea look really sharp. THERE'S HALF-A-DOZEN HERE FOR YOU TODAY BOYS

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:40 (fifteen years ago)

yeah s korea looking really good here, shame i have greece down to win on my prediction comp

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:45 (fifteen years ago)

It may just be the France-Uruguay effect but this game is wildly entertaining to me

MPx4A, Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:47 (fifteen years ago)

ROK have players over every time they break but they don't seem to know what to do with the ball. they should be killing the tactically naive africans hellenes.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:54 (fifteen years ago)

oh ref!

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:55 (fifteen years ago)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAArgh shaaame

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:57 (fifteen years ago)

fucking glorious pass though

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:57 (fifteen years ago)

Christlike throughball

MPx4A, Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:57 (fifteen years ago)

ohhhh that's a video game thru ball. triangle!

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:58 (fifteen years ago)

There is a sort of video-game like lack of selfishness to S Korea, they just seem to be keenly looking for the right pass no matter what

MPx4A, Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:00 (fifteen years ago)

this ref is shit. Skorea look great. That big fucking pitch black shadow is a stadium design fault

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:01 (fifteen years ago)

watching this baws ITV.com stream in silence I can hear the bees in my head. They got me.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:04 (fifteen years ago)

final ball from greece has been both a tragedy and a comedy

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:05 (fifteen years ago)

Oedipish

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:06 (fifteen years ago)

That big fucking pitch black shadow is a stadium design fault

http://www.mullsports.com/images/spider.jpg

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:08 (fifteen years ago)

At least I cd see what was happening under the big dandelion

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:10 (fifteen years ago)

the tops of the stadium, not the shadows, look bizarre to me like they're cgi or something

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:11 (fifteen years ago)

not a classical performance from greece but their coach looks philosophical about it. i wonder if any of the greeks is going to step up and be a hero, and earn their place in the pantheon.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

not sure how good korea are, but greece appear to be terrible.

mizzell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:16 (fifteen years ago)

steve mcmanaman's skin has cleared up. obviously getting direction to speak more slowly so the muricans can decipher his scouse.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:20 (fifteen years ago)

What's the point of having that halftime chat thing with people that mumble and aren't interested?

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:34 (fifteen years ago)

park jesus

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:38 (fifteen years ago)

Hey remember when Greece could defend?

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:38 (fifteen years ago)

lovely finish

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:38 (fifteen years ago)

Nice!

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:39 (fifteen years ago)

<3 world cup!

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:41 (fifteen years ago)

haw my ITV.com stream has somehow fallen behind everything else on the page, so I can see "54' goal" on the bottom bar while the game itself is at 49'. I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:41 (fifteen years ago)

have totally missed this game so far, is it worth my looking for the goals online?

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:43 (fifteen years ago)

Really enjoying SK v nice controlled passing with odd bursts of pace and skill. Greece look clueless - 2-0 down at don't seem to give much of a shit about anything.

At least Sami won't be tired for pre-season (hopefully pre-season with someone other than Celtic).

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

Sami hooked as I typed that :)

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:47 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, SK have been the most attractive side to watch so far. They always look to keep the ball on the floor.

Number None, Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:48 (fifteen years ago)

I don't think any of the Greeks will be tired this evening, never mind pre-season

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:48 (fifteen years ago)

jesus. greece are making sk look like brazil here

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:50 (fifteen years ago)

have totally missed this game so far, is it worth my looking for the goals online?

― i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:43 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

First goal pretty ordinary set piece but second was a nice run and finish after some comedy Greek ball control.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5Sn_6Qn_Lk

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

Someone needs to bail out Greece.

Popture, Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:56 (fifteen years ago)

3 massive chances for greece in the last 3 minutes, hmm

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:57 (fifteen years ago)

Greece are gonna get one of these on target eventually. Koreans need to step it up again.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:57 (fifteen years ago)

They're misguided to try and sit on this lead the way Greece have defended.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:01 (fifteen years ago)

What A Mezés

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:12 (fifteen years ago)

Pittaful really

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:13 (fifteen years ago)

The Greeks? Yoghurt to be kidding me.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:15 (fifteen years ago)

just rolled my own eyes at myself

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:15 (fifteen years ago)

job done surely now

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:16 (fifteen years ago)

In your face, L0u1s J4gger

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:19 (fifteen years ago)

Some of them Greek players shd be sacked. See how they like cashing a gyro for a while.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:19 (fifteen years ago)

The main flaw with the team they couldn't run as fast as the South Koreans due to being feta.

show me your buccina (ken c), Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:25 (fifteen years ago)

Argentina x Nigeria next. Now we're talking.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:25 (fifteen years ago)

(Well, I said the same thing yesterday before France x Uruguay)

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:26 (fifteen years ago)

Come on you Super Eagles

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:26 (fifteen years ago)

is kanu still about?

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:33 (fifteen years ago)

It's kind of late but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur5fGSBsfq8

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:34 (fifteen years ago)

He's about alright

about fifty

MPx4A, Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:35 (fifteen years ago)

someone just asked me: is kanu still ALIVE?

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:36 (fifteen years ago)

Which is the best stream if the ITV one breaks down?

piscesx, Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:37 (fifteen years ago)

nwankwo kanu interview on some ryoji ikeda shit

heinze far too slow to play fb these days

nakhchivan, Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:47 (fifteen years ago)

Isn't it on BBC

show me your buccina (ken c), Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:48 (fifteen years ago)

Yep

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:49 (fifteen years ago)

BIG MICK IN THE AREA

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

haha those horns just never stop do they

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

Based on the anthem most of the crowd is Argentine.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

yeah looks pretty 'blue' out there

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)

This is gonna rule hard. Maradona appears to be Terry Venables in a beard.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

:D

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

LOOOOOOOOOOOL Tevez

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)

WELCOME TO SOUTH AFRICA

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

the diamond formation can be great but the problem is always the wide mid positions, whether to play cmids or slightly tucked-in wingers there

veron and di maria are about as different as cld be in most aspects

love nigeria from when they weren't crap but hoping maradona gets this to work somehow......

nakhchivan, Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

ESPN dork talking about Argentina "exuding an aroma of goals."

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:06 (fifteen years ago)

lol could be four nil up after 5 mins

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:06 (fifteen years ago)

Big Mick otm re: horrible marking

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

i;m actually starting to get nervous about the england game, so far i've been casually loving these first games as a neutral. i keep forgetting that its our turn soon

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

Heinze!

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

goal for "the Manchester United defender of a few years ago!" wtf

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)

BBC definitely mute the crowd noise somewhat. Flicking between their coverage and RTE's the difference is quite noticeable. Anyway, this looks like it could be embarrassing for Nigeria.

Number None, Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

Nah, Argentina don't look that solid at the back.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

But Nigeria look worse.

Number None, Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

Do they dope test managers btw?

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

gray rainy morning, perfect excuse to watch

exuding an aroma of lolz (Hunt3r), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

was wondering if Maradona is going to start snorting the line markings if they get up a few points

Euler, Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

ESPN dork again: "plenty of SILK and STEEL mixed into the Argentine FABRIC." Good grief.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

Five Star fan

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

Haha Maradona all "Oh yeah, you need the ball here."

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

nigeria's best player in the absence of mikel is arguably peter odemwingie

swedish coach typically dull and unimaginative

nakhchivan, Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah Nigeria ought to be showing more ambition getting forward, they've had good chances but Argentina look happy enough to sit back and counter them.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

this was the tard playing elmander on the right wing two years ago, worse even than the english for insistence on 4-4-2

nakhchivan, Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:34 (fifteen years ago)

"While Heskey, whose England place in the subject of fierce debate, found the back of the net a mere five times for Aston Villa last season, spot-kick specialist Vincent Enyeama dispatched nine penalties for Hapoel Tel Aviv."

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

lol didn't practice throws in training then

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

i couldn't tell what was wrong with it?

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

Didn't get it back behind his head for a start.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

Pundits can slobber over Argentina all they want at half time but if Nigeria get the ball wide and get guys running in from the midfield they've got every chance of getting back in.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)

But...but Messi's got the ball on a string!

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

Messi's great but Argentina have shown no mind to kill this off.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

Not at all sure about Samuel wrestling his marker out the way on that goal btw

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

messi hasn't even been ~that~ great by his standards

nakhchivan, Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

Dunno, two good shots stopped by good saves, looks dangerous more or less every time he's got the ball.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

Jurgen Klinsmann made a little-known comeback under a false name in 2003. He appeared for Orange County Blue Star in the American Premier Development League as the striker "Jay Goppingen". He scored five goals in eight matches.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

the best outcome for argentina is that messi takes to the system and the championship left winger at rb experiment is quietly shelved

nakhchivan, Saturday, 12 June 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

wkik Juergen, totally

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah Klinsmann is basically too good to be here

MPx4A, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

Nigeria have got no movement when they get forward. So stolid.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/06/12/covers/front061210.jpg

mizzell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

Good Luck USA

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

Nice cover. It's not to be taken literally, right?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

Washington crossing Delaware as we speak...

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

Having 1 dude on yr team who can cross a ball might be a plan, Nigeria

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

You gotta score from there

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

That was even worse.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

ALSO FROM THERE ODEMWINGIE YOU TIT

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

It's the big net. You kick it in there!!

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

want a I LOVE NIGERIA scarf

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

poor pass on that counter by tevez, who seems a bit unnecessary in this team

mizzell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

Thought Tevez has been pretty good tbh, there seems to be a second gear mentality about the whole team at the moment

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

about the whole match in fact

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

Ooh that was all but in. Argentina need to put this to bed.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

Jonathan Pearce reduced to composing Messi fanfic now

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

Lol

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

sir alex vindicated by veron's performance today. Lolmmentators.

toastmodernist, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

South Korea must fancy their chances of getting out of this group.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

wtf was that a laser pen on messi then?

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

or sniper

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

A big striker and South Korea could be a damn good side.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

+ a goalkeeper

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

Think it's hard to tell about South Korea cos their opponents were so bad, which is also the case with Argentina today.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

UCHE THAT'S GOTTA HURT

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

what an idiot

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

WTF

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

Argentina kind of deserve to lose a goal now

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

not seen anything spectacular yet in any of these 1st matches.

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

Is Tevez actually one of the problems here? Lost count of the number of times somebody has run past him on the overlap and he passed the ball backwards instead?

BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

xpost

Opening games are gonna be cagey, I don't believe Argentina wd be fannying around like this if they weren't a goal up for example.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

Or if Nigeria could get a bloody goal

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

Nigeria hates scoring

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

Did he really say to stay tuned cos we were gonna get a chance to hear from former professional and UEFA-trained tactician Ray Winstone?

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

Messi missi

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

Lagerback out

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

americans: what channel number is espn on the tv in my hotel? is it different in every town? i can't find it. telemundo commentators are fools.

caek, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

not exactly a goalfest thus far - Heskey will sort that out

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

Hmmm, who do I want to get acute laryngitis first, Lineker or Shearer?

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

Not trying a sports bar, caek?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

Shearer.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

these guys are making a very special personal appearance at the bar i am watching the england game in: http://www.austinaztex.com/. gonna try and find their quartermaster and ask him what he thinks about rooney in right D and who he likes for the england goaltender draft.

caek, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

That's quickfire poll #5 sorted out

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

Caek: it's different in different cities/cable providers.

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

xxp, yeah, just wanted to see mcmanaman and whoever about on the argentina match. going to the official "team USA" bar for the england match.

xp, yeah, i thought so. could my tv not have it? is it free or do i need digital or cable or something (which i don't think this tv has)

caek, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

This afternoon's England-USA game is on ABC, which should be a low number on the cable as it is an over-the-air network as well.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

I will be getting terribly drunk in a bar for the england game, so that game is not a problem.

caek, Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

Oh I think that game might be a problem

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, my tummy is going a bit squirty tbh, and i don't think it's the jalapeno cheese.

caek, Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

Are you going in English regalia? As a Redcoat perhaps, or maybe up the ante with an oily bird mascot?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

Espn's a cable channel. But even cheap hotels have a handful of cable channels usually

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

caek - espn is a cable/sat channel, so yeah, it's very possible your hotel doesn't have it.

Jeff LeVine, Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

(secretly I think we might turn out to be a lot more convincing than we have been for a long time but I've watched too many World Cups to say that out loud)

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

It can be our secret

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

telemundo has dancing girls in england shirts

caek, Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10300045.stm

nakhchivan, Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

"Argentina has never won a world cup in a tournament where the mascot wasn't wearing a hat"

^ love that there are people in the world who find out this kind of shit

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

bit hot hear for a redcoat tbh.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/IMG_3355.jpg

caek, Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

"the three lions behind Frank's shoulder there - maybe it's an omen that we're in a country that actually has lions"

MPx4A, Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

love caek's hat :D

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, cowboy town

caek, Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

We just got abused in the pub for watching the Argentina game when Scotland aren't even in it so we have no right to watch the tournament.

Dude doing it was our failed Labour cadidate at the last council elections. O_o

BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

at least he failed :)

Capello will have announced his team to the players by now

I reckon England will go with
Green
Johnson, Terry, King, Cole
Lennon, Carrick, Lampard, Gerrard
Heskey, Rooney

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)

what happened to that henry drugs rumour?

caek, Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)

I think it started as a joke with that gif I posted upthread somewhere then grew false legs on a few blogs

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:40 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.footballtransfertavern.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Henry.jpg

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:40 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/oddballs/830486-thierry-henry-world-cup-drug-ban-hoax-sweeps-internet-after-joke-video

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)

I reckon:

James
Johnson, Terry, King, Cole
Lennon, Gerrard, Lampard, Cole
Rooney, Heskey

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:42 (fifteen years ago)

lol

caek, Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)

ha, without metro, i'm out of the loop.

ok i'm off to get sunburnt and shouted at by radge soccerball fans. good luck usa.

caek, Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:50 (fifteen years ago)

i think you've been framed is gonna be the highlight of itv tonight.

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:51 (fifteen years ago)

http://twitter.com/DTguardian

#Eng team is coming in for #usa match as: Green; Johnson, Terry, King, A Cole; Lennon, Lamp, Gerrard, Milner; Heskey, Rooney #worldcup 4 minutes ago via web

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:58 (fifteen years ago)

Milner stuck out on the left then.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 16:59 (fifteen years ago)

I was right about the bit I wanted to be wrong about. Positive spin: Gerrard - Lampard in the middle is a statement of "we're going for it" if true.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 17:03 (fifteen years ago)

lol

http://twitter.com/livevuvuzela

=======<() EËNNNNNNNKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEÉEEEEEEEEEEEËEËEEEËEËEEEËEË about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 17:04 (fifteen years ago)

Shd have a sweep on how many minutes of the tournament Green can play before he is a broken man who has to retire from professional football.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 17:05 (fifteen years ago)

David Cameron really is a repellent failure as a bullshiter

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 17:08 (fifteen years ago)

Did you see that bit on Screenwipe (or something else with C Brooker) where he was trying to talk football with some black kids from South London and completely failing to understand them? I'm cringing thinking about it.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 17:14 (fifteen years ago)

he = Cameron, if that wasn't clear

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 17:14 (fifteen years ago)

wasn't that Boris?

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 17:15 (fifteen years ago)

He's up on his sports tho - he called Paul Collingwood 'Colin Wood'. xpost

GamalielRatsey, Saturday, 12 June 2010 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

Thing I saw was Cameron. He was asked who would win the league and made a gag about The Blues winning that went down like a burning spitfire then someone said "who's gonna come fourth" and Cameron couldn't work out what the kid was saying.

I'm pretty sure Boris does that sort of thing on a daily basis tbh.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

Caek - if Eddie Johnson of the Aztex is there, tell him I have very fond memories of the job he did for me on FM09 when I was managing Hyde United.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 12 June 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)

Haha the American pregame footage would fricking start with U2z

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:00 (fifteen years ago)

Oguchialu Chijioke "Oguchi" Onyewu (born May 13, 1982, in Washington, D.C.) is an American footballer who plays as a defender for Milan of Italy's Serie A and the United States national team. He is often referred to by the nickname "Gucci Mane"

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:00 (fifteen years ago)

U2zzzzzzzzzz

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:00 (fifteen years ago)

Do Americans get much pre-match analysis?

Fat Dog Franklin (snoball), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:01 (fifteen years ago)

HANDY HINT: you can watch one BBC website match highlights package in the space of an ITV ad break.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:01 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtYaypsLNKU

Frank gave the M.E.N an exclusive performance at The Salutation pub off Oxford Road. The song is inspired by his mother and his collection of England shirts – home, away and ‘goalie’.

He said: "It is my official unofficial World Cup song and all the money that I raise from the single will be going to charity.

"I think it’s that good that Wayne Rooney will be singing it when he comes back from the World Cup."

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:02 (fifteen years ago)

Do Americans get much pre-match analysis?

Not with Alexi Lalas involved, no.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:03 (fifteen years ago)

Gah and now the ESPN dude is gesturing at McManaman with a vuvuzela.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:03 (fifteen years ago)

I like the sounds of that. Who else do you have doing your coverage?

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:04 (fifteen years ago)

John Harkes and Martin Tyler calling the match for us. Yay?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:04 (fifteen years ago)

findley starts, clark starts

156, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:06 (fifteen years ago)

They've all but been calling Capello a Eurofag. "He likes fine art, fine wine -- US coach likes Springsteen!"

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:06 (fifteen years ago)

ABC is now explaining Bafana Bafana to us. They are doing this by getting a guy who is not a cornfed beefy American dude to do the narration.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:08 (fifteen years ago)

gonna admit that basically that carlsberg team talk ad has made me want england to get pissed on 5-0 in every game, or "eng-i-lund" as they are known in swarthy englishman advertising speak. that and the english flag being owned by supermarket booze promos...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:11 (fifteen years ago)

At least the US team look like soccer players this time, rather than a bunch of indie musicians.

Fat Dog Franklin (snoball), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:12 (fifteen years ago)

xpost

that plus 95 percent of the TV & radio coverage is pushing me close to agreeing

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:13 (fifteen years ago)

wonder about the pluses and minuses of jay demerit at centre back tho. i mean he's clearly earned his place in the team, he's definitely not without value. he deserves to be there. but there are pros and cons about him appearing, when you break it down into positives and negatives. he is there on skill tho, i guess, when you consider it.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:13 (fifteen years ago)

can't help but think tho, with demerit, what are the i dunno, good and bad things about him being there???

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:14 (fifteen years ago)

I was thinking ITV were doing a good job but these past five minutes = erk.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

Chiles enjoying his new job a wee bit much...

Fat Dog Franklin (snoball), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

McManaman saying Lalas is nuts, advantage: Ruud! Kinda. Now, more ads.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

Jay Baruchel and Ian Brown, together at last.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

cut to the stadium already

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

Keegan predicting 4-1!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

First dude that quotes Henry V, Richard II or Nelson and I put the telly thru. Also FFS SOMEBODY GIVE KEEGAN A VALIUM

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

Plus side: ITV don't seem to have Kasabian on the playlist.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:23 (fifteen years ago)

Nice to see Landon having a wee chat with his kid while everyone else ignores theirs

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:24 (fifteen years ago)

star wars adidas advert looked well made.

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

Hopefully we'll get a memorable play-out of that Cast song at the final whistle.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

Boy, does Fabio look sharp.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

"Expectation may be too high but we are definitely gonna win this tournament"

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:26 (fifteen years ago)

Anybody who sings for the Queen is a twunt

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:26 (fifteen years ago)

Doesn't football TV usually have "this is the one" by the roses?

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:26 (fifteen years ago)

What's with the little kids. Is this a NAMBLA convention.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:26 (fifteen years ago)

Twunts: Cole, Lampard, Terry, Green

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

Kinda glad there are no Arsenal players in this side apart from Joe Cole.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

LJ not bothering to sing "The Star-Spangled Banner" there

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

every time i hear american anthem i think of german guy digging own grave in saving private ryan.

"oh say can you see, oh say can you see, ohh say can you see"

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

Not prog enough

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

Gerrard narrowly escapes twunt status by having the camera not reach him in time. ah fuck it, he's a twunt.

I was surprised how few of the American team were singing, I thought they were into that kind of thing.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

"Star-Spangled Banner" is a dope tune imo

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

Gotta feel sorry for the Rangers fans with the big flag who got tickets for this game.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

more adverts than Lost, just!

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

Would laugh if it's already kicked off by the time ITV come back from ads.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

Cannot wait to see what specially tailored ads Lucozade bust out for the Algeria game.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

YEEEEEEEEEEEs

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!

Fat Dog Franklin (snoball), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:35 (fifteen years ago)

my American friend who I was supposed to be watching this with is ill in bed and you do this to him? Not cool.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

what a terrible challenge

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

all foreign cars will be safe on my street tonight now.

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

not from me btw, local idiots :-/

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)

haha

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

enough with the slow mo replays please

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)

the bees aren't quite enough to silence The Great Escape. :'(

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

I like the slow mo, it's like a made for tv film about football

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

Feckin' ITV missed the goal on HD, showing an ad for Hyundai instead.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

how far can they slide, it's amazing!

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:43 (fifteen years ago)

Game of the tournament so far already

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

Is Tim Howard's kit a tribute to Guantanamo?

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

FFS how much gas does the average airhorn have in it these days?

Fat Dog Franklin (snoball), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

Woah USA's kit is giving me the serious nostalgia, has anyone used the diagonal ribbon in the WC since 1978/82 Peru?

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

Does anyone outside of South Africa actually like the vuvuzelas, or is it a universally agreed-upon nuisance?

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

bzzzzzzzz fzzzzzzzzz zzzzzffzfzfzfzzz ffffzzzzzzzzppppptttt

This is getting annoying now

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

England fans are shit at blowing the vuvuzelas.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

A sad end to Milner's international career

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

wrightphilips-lennon-gerrard-lampard?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

i keep wanting to say vulvas!

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

come on America! /bitterscot

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

^ILTMI board desc xpost

Would Fab sub a booked Wayne Rooney?

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

Rooney doesn't have a sub of the quality and reassurance as shaun wright-phillips

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

am kind of glad it wasn't Walcott though

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:08 (fifteen years ago)

who?

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

o lol.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

Jesus

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

oh my god

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

ooops

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

EWE SSSS AAA

|8 l) u_u (bnw), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

nononononononononono

Fat Dog Franklin (snoball), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

Biggest Nelson laugh in the world here.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

hahahaha

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

!!!!!

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

Shd have a sweep on how many minutes of the tournament Green can play before he is a broken man who has to retire from professional football.

― Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 17:05 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

Almunia-esque

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

commentators throwing that dude under the bus

|8 l) u_u (bnw), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

Rob Green - I fucking told you

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

english people are about as good at keeping goal as they are at managing football teams.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

http://nelsonlaugh.com/

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

uh oh Emile's broken

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

As my contribution, I present you with this poem by our own Beth Parker, in which she endeavors to explain the rules of association football, in terza rima:

Just keep the ball away from everyone;
you must evade the men who threaten you.
If skills perchance you lack then use a gun,

what e’er it takes to bring the package through.
Go leave a trail of bodies in your wake,
stomp flat the foe beneath your spikéd shoe.

The bones of thine own teammates do not break;
you’ll know them by the shirts that look like yours.
Yon brave crusaders crush the evil snake,

and after battle’s won, one quest endures;
some Spice Girls yet unwed, oh wild frontier!
Tabloids yet to litter with your spoor,

a mighty thirst to slake with pints of beer,
and hearts to fill with envy and with fear.

Aimless, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

not being a massive football fan an' all, my heart is going mental after that.

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

i just received 3 texts, what a lovely moment for the nation of Scotland.

otoh i have terry in my fantasy football side ;_;

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:16 (fifteen years ago)

the commentators jibes of scottish goalkeepers for over 40 years banished in a few seconds of hilarity

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

I've got Terry as well

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

http://imgur.com/Pk4Yq.png

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

That's like an inflatable Roger Rabbit 'toon hand

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

"hi USA. You're welcome, america."

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

l o l

EVALUATION COPY (cozen), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

a victory for kazoos everywhere

|8 l) u_u (bnw), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

Paul Robinson >>>>>>> Rob Green

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

Can you hear the trumpets, Green?

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

England should still have this just because they're more incisive when they get it wide, but the US are dominating a little bit in midfield - could really use a Hargreaves in there. Donovan is a seriously good player, this guy Bradley looks alright too.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

<3 Aimless & Beth Parker; I believe I commissioned that poem! "Spice Girls still unwed" cracks me up agane.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

Somewhere, in some French TV studio, Arsene has circled the name 'Rob Green'.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

hahaha

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

onimo/jim have you seen this yet?
http://xadryq.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pBXt9xGyf0Oj8YIWoiBdrxjf42x11VNGfjCVzCICZsV57z6I0D1ufsa3hY3IWV7c5d6whVR1SA-HLStvolh917Uf658A5duPR/dl6_1600.jpg

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

Hope the fact that Green is a fucking clown doesn't distract from the scrappy, patchy performance England put in that half. I don't expect us to be Brazil, but the sheer inability to hold onto the ball and pass it to our own side has been horrible at times. Don't think Lampard's having much of a game, confused as to why he brought SWP on instead of Joe Cole or a holding midfielder. We look a lot better when we spread the play, but half of that half has been like watching a group of blokes who've just met each other for the first time.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:23 (fifteen years ago)

i feel sorry for him if he wasn't on £30k a week.

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

That poem is awesome.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

holy shit that was quick
http://imgur.com/QZKbo.gif

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

It's been changed back now.

Fat Dog Franklin (snoball), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

Chiles: "If there's anyone we feel sorry for as much as Rob Green, it's our boys in Afghanistan, forced to watch this with American soldiers."

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

omg, they had adverts ready for when england are losing!

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

Might wanna lock that Rob Green page for a couple of decades.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

ITV1 do their bit to back up Green by showing us someone we dislike even more: James Corden

Fat Dog Franklin (snoball), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

bloody hell ledley crocked already

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

You're surprised?

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

No, I thought it might happen in the 2nd game though, not the first half of the first game!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

@charltonbrooker The USA goal. That's one spill they won't mind..

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

How do you not score there.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

Heskey has done well but if you don't do better there you shouldn't be in the team

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

At least Capello can bring on Feo with 15 minutes to go to get the winner.

Oh.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

commentators not helping green leave Africa alive by saying "America score with more than a helping hand from green"

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

oh ffs ref

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

ooh nice lampard

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

this is a decent game.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

"redemption"

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

this is just stupid

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

would like to see that again - was sure he palmed it onto the post

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

watching with spanish commentary. Worth it for "madre mia" after Robson's howler.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

Is Johnson back on yet?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

lol rob greens save was a cock up too

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

lampard trying to pass to bleakley?

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

ugh i wish i knew what the point of swp was meant to be

Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

he's only little, give him a chance.

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)

Rooney needs to remember that Nike advert.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

that was a terrible effort by swp

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

COME ON ENGLAND aaarghhh

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

edson arantes do nascimento buddle

EVALUATION COPY (cozen), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

gosh i knew it would be a bit quiet on the streets during this game, but jesus there's not a car or person in sight

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

kudos to England ppl in stadium though for briefly overpowering the vuvuzela by voice alone.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

why are england suddenly so shook?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

theyve been found out in the first game. going to make you feel a bit down.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

Reckon Crouch will win this

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

And now the familiar sinking feeling of watching England not quite pull it together in the last 10 minutes.

Fat Dog Franklin (snoball), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

Scottish bloke on field bad luck USA

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

This is a classic US good game: get a lucky break and then hold on for dear life and hope Howard comes through. I wonder which of the other two games will be their classic terrible game.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

http://i50.tinypic.com/nqces.jpg

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder which of the other two games will be their classic terrible game.

Which is the biggest joke team out of Slovenia and Algeria?

Fat Dog Franklin (snoball), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

well

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

at least i got my works prediction right on this one

Vulvuzela (Ste), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

War is over

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

Capello out.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

Ruud Gullit called the score right!

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

Good day's footy all round. Wouldn't fancy being Rob Green when the tabloids are delivered tomorrow though.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

fucking sick of hearing about 66, move on ffs!

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/48060000/jpg/_48060615_green.jpg

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

SING IT, KERMIT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpiIWMWWVco

zappi, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

Classic England :D

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

never in doubt

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

Should get the Webuybuyanycar.com dancers into the squad for the next game.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

fucks sake gerrard, it had fuck all to do with the new ball

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

The new ball is made of oil.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

Any pundit who says we played "well" is either a liar or an idiot.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

Kev's been crying, or punched?

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

Rooney was shite, most were tbh but was saved by Green in letting their shittiness go.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

^^^ Exackly.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)

Spurs 1 - 1 Watford.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)

Webuyanycarwomanbetterthanwebuyanycarman.com

on mute!

not_goodwin, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

NV I felt I was watching a different game to the ITV commentators when they said England were playing well. They must have been really bad in the friendlies if that was a major improvement.
xps

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

My two boys say 'England suck' and I think they were pretty bored by that, but they quite liked staying up late to drink lemonade and eat crisp salad.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

Gerrard played well in patches, Heskey good for a dude who can't shoot, Cashley was probs alright, maybe Terry did his job, struggling to pick out anybody else who shd ever be allowed to play for England again.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

I thought Johnson played well

AlanSmithee, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

I didn't see him pass a ball to anybody on our side for the first half hour, he maybe got into it a bit more when we were pushing forward in the second half but then Lennon was so mediocre maybe Johnson just looked alright in comparison.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

That Pot Noodle ad has been the most entertaining thing on ITV all evening.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

Should try getting the ball to Rooney more in my view.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

I thought England were good and bossed the game but didn't make enough clear chances for people other than Heskey.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

Kept the ball away from the Yanks well enough in 2nd half, just needed some follow through

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)

Barry might actually make a huge difference to that team. Also, if Carragher gets through the tourney without red card/horrible humiliation I will be surprised

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

There were spells when we looked incisive, but saying we bossed the game at any point except when the US sat back - and even then they were frightening on the break - is generous imo.

Nice to see Green getting the kudos he deserves for not getting beaten on his near post even tho he nearly scuffed it anyway.

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

lol ties!

i don't always play indie, but when i do, i prefer xx (m bison), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)

thx england for shooting the ball right at our keeper and then letting the one we shot right at your keeper go thru

good luck

ronaldimho (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv3GoUlHu18

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)

wanks 1 - yanks 1

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)

WOOOOOOOOOOOO

156, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

A lot of bullshitty realism on 5 Live but no one has been hyping England this time round given the performance in friendlies.

Don't think England 'bossed it' but did enough (and doing enough is fine at this stage) till Green's howler but the important is not to lose.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

bradley w some passes, jozy with moves, onyewu went 90. more than i could have imagined possible
fucking amazing, to tie and be this joyous about what these scrubs can do

156, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

no one has been hyping England this time round

uh wut?

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

tim howard yall

156, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

all that golden generation pish has been a mirage then

xps

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)

Didn't Eng beat Argentina in a friendly 3-2 four years ago? That really got many people going. Nothing like that this year. xxp

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

ugh @ this itv james corden world cup thing

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

first heard them called that just before kick off tbh

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

Trending: United Kingdom

* Stuart Holden
* Adrian Chiles
* Emile Heskey
* Wright Phillips
* Fabio Capello
* Glen Johnson
* Clint Dempsey
* Steven Gerrard
* Tim Howard
* Wayne Rooney

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Saturday, 12 June 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

NV I felt I was watching a different game to the ITV commentators when they said England were playing well. They must have been really bad in the friendlies if that was a major improvement.

'Zackly - English commentators have lost the ability to tell the truth about football. Not much to be proud of in Ireland these days, but RTE have pundits who'll say what the see, and not what they think you want to hear. I was switching between ITV and RTE through the game and 'Irish' Andy Townsend was describing a credible English performance against all the evidence before my eyes, whereas on the other side, (English) Trevor Steven was unforgiving - and in the studio, Souness was caustic.

sonofstan, Saturday, 12 June 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

The need to praise Green second half ("oh, that's a confident kick") was excruciating

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

cherundolo was something. and the general backline re: rooney impressed, hard to tell on camera. god, heskey, he would drive me fukin crazy if he was mine

156, Saturday, 12 June 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

And that 'really really great save' or what have you when it didn't look a very assured block.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 June 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

Johnson looked really good I thought - I'm sure he won't be as valuable against better left backs but he seemed able to beat his man more consistently than anyone else.

I don't like Gerrard being captain at all - he was in full-on "hero SG breaks the game open with miracle pass" mode all game - I know that's how he plays for Liverpool but he actually has teammates for England.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 12 June 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah the RTE pundits layed into the England teame with relish, justifiably enough. That was pretty much the archetypal disappointing England performance.

Number None, Saturday, 12 June 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

Holy shit did I love seeing Jozy run down Carragher.

dan m, Saturday, 12 June 2010 21:22 (fifteen years ago)

And I actually didn't mind Lalas talking shit through the whole post-game. Best was "6 million they paid, money well spent!" or something like that.

dan m, Saturday, 12 June 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)

http://i48.tinypic.com/s4ux3s.jpg

Cunga, Saturday, 12 June 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)

Srsly thought for a sec that Carra was about to get his second yellow card on that one challenge

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)

while trolling 4chan for goal gifs I noticed:

/sp/ - English Goalkeeping

dan m, Saturday, 12 June 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/73156

dan m, Saturday, 12 June 2010 21:33 (fifteen years ago)

Srsly thought for a sec that Carra was about to get his second yellow card on that one challenge

He gets away with that one a lot - cannot see him escaping with it through a whole world cup

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 June 2010 21:46 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00120/bigsamheader_120256a.JPG

nakhchivan, Saturday, 12 June 2010 22:58 (fifteen years ago)

this is what happens when you stick damon albarn in nets

matt, Saturday, 12 June 2010 23:31 (fifteen years ago)

The 7th Google Image Search for Rob Green is...interesting

MPx4A, Saturday, 12 June 2010 23:59 (fifteen years ago)

The BBC's match report layout has so much AIDS I'm worried I'll die meself

MPx4A, Sunday, 13 June 2010 00:04 (fifteen years ago)

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00474/Rob_Green_682x400_474064a.jpg

Expect this one to get the Trotsky treatment shortly

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 00:05 (fifteen years ago)

struggling to work out how much the Bobby G/Chris Benoit resemblance is in mah head

MPx4A, Sunday, 13 June 2010 00:08 (fifteen years ago)

Hands of a killer

Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 00:15 (fifteen years ago)

I NO MIND YOU KEEL EENGLAND'S WORLD CUP HOPES

MPx4A, Sunday, 13 June 2010 00:18 (fifteen years ago)

Don't touch ANYTHING

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 13 June 2010 00:20 (fifteen years ago)

if only england had had a nice middle class arsenal player with a tiny rectangular beard everything would of been ok

MPx4A, Sunday, 13 June 2010 00:53 (fifteen years ago)

thought RTE were typical ying to the yang of positivity elsewhere, giles said it was the worst game of the tournament which was idiotic, was easily the best imo, good open play, two sides going for it, even if technically not hitting bullseyes. the rest was just whinging plus a typical rte flick to "con murphy" in an also blue studio for 30 seconds...for no reason whatsoever, saying some shit, er...good man..hi lads, back to you bill, good luck now gents!

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 01:28 (fifteen years ago)

(ps would be raging if I was English, Eng look like Liverpool, Glen Johnson like C-Ron...easily the motm. stunning swp comes on for milner and no joe cole tho, total joke. also loved the itv bedtime story of ROBERT GREEN FUCK UP/ROBERT GREEN HEROIC SAVE, when actually he made a total bollocks of that Altidore shot and any decent keeper wouldn't be tipping a scuffed effort onto the post...)

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 01:30 (fifteen years ago)

I've been at a great wedding and reception since halftime, so the draw was almost the cherry on the cake. (A win would have definitely been.)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 June 2010 01:48 (fifteen years ago)

Shd have a sweep on how many minutes of the tournament Green can play before he is a broken man who has to retire from professional football.

― Katamari Desailly (Noodle Vague), Saturday, June 12, 2010 6:05 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

caek, Sunday, 13 June 2010 02:25 (fifteen years ago)

this was the build-up

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/Image006.jpg

caek, Sunday, 13 June 2010 02:37 (fifteen years ago)

Russell Brand has rarely had so many people stare up his nose.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 June 2010 03:33 (fifteen years ago)

I would just like to take this opportunity to exclaim that I was totally, repeatedly otm. Even though I may not have recorded my 1-1 prediction here, and even though it wouldn't have come true had it not been for Rob Green's lol howler, my stupid £1>£3000 accumulator is still alive. Now Just need Australia to draw with Germany, Japan to beat Cameroon and five other unlikely results to come in and I'm gonna be a very smug mfer.

flanimal collective (Upt0eleven), Sunday, 13 June 2010 04:23 (fifteen years ago)

how many passes lampard missed today? i want a stat ):

moullet, Sunday, 13 June 2010 04:26 (fifteen years ago)

caek did you meet the Austin Aztex? They have a terrible name but they're tearing up the 2nd division currently.

dan m, Sunday, 13 June 2010 04:55 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMRMW1FXSHw&feature=player_embedded

dan m, Sunday, 13 June 2010 04:56 (fifteen years ago)

Whereas in the UK we get

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c2y-YCC-z0

James Mitchell, Sunday, 13 June 2010 10:06 (fifteen years ago)

love those guys

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 10:42 (fifteen years ago)

http://i49.tinypic.com/2d1w75y.png

StanM, Sunday, 13 June 2010 10:53 (fifteen years ago)

ha ha. twats.

It's 'cheeri-yo!'
Bloody hell for English soccer fans in the city

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 13 June 2010 10:58 (fifteen years ago)

England Not So Slick

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:00 (fifteen years ago)

Rob Green says his mistake won't affect him and he wants to keep representing his country.

That's nice.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:04 (fifteen years ago)

King groin-strained for next game. Please god anybody but Carragher.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:07 (fifteen years ago)

Has anybody got a credible reason why Fab thought that SWP was a better choice on the left than Joe Cole?

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:08 (fifteen years ago)

I don't know what to make of that game.

I couldn't believe how excited I was at the start - after all these years watching footy, so excited!

I liked Stevie's Captain's Goal and thought it might inspire him as captain for the rest of the tournament.

It was funny how different pundits (eg Keegan vs Hansen) had such different views re what should happen to Green.

But mistake aside, England had 45 more minutes to beat USA and didn't look much like doing it.

Lennon needs to get the ball more and then beat his man as many times as possible and ping in dangerous balls. That is the only tactical recommendation I have. And it's not much use with no one in the box to keep those balls dangerous.

But England will still qualify and I suppose they can still go on to great things.

the pinefox, Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:11 (fifteen years ago)

Cole would be a good pick, let's have more of him.

Ledley King is my biggest reason for supporting England so his absence is very sad for me.

the pinefox, Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:12 (fifteen years ago)

A few realisations in the cold light of day:

- the better chances fell to the US
- there was a big space in midfield that the US had all to themselves
- that may be the last time the sides meet with England as genuine favourites
- England do not have a defence capable of winning this thing

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:20 (fifteen years ago)

Rob Greens face is too crumpled to trust imo

The nation's most valiant right back (Suedey 2), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

Joe Cole should start as many games as possible

The nation's most valiant right back (Suedey 2), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

xxpost

- not really
- surprise surprise Gerrard/Lampard still doesn't really work
- it might be the last time they ever meet but let's be real
- yeah we do. Terry and Cole are World class, stick Dawson in to cover King when he's broken and hope that Johnson remembers he has to defend sometimes

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:24 (fifteen years ago)

For a pair of guys who the lol pundits insist on describing as Mentally Strong, Lamps and Stevie Me don't half go to shit and run out of ideas as soon as England's remotely under pressure.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:26 (fifteen years ago)

Now to find out that Algeria and/or Slovenia are shit hot and really ramp up the melodrama.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:27 (fifteen years ago)

It's totally incomprehensible to me that SWP could continue to feature really - I mean obviously Capello knows what he's doing but I cannot honestly recall one time he had the ball and England kept possession of it?

I'd love to whether a) Fabio thinks SWP is good, or b) F.C. regards this as a glaringly weak position and thinks Cole/Walcott/Milner's flaws are even greater than WP's?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:30 (fifteen years ago)

(also England in the last 10 minutes spraying safe passes out of bounds again - god help us if there's a penalty shootout)

Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:33 (fifteen years ago)

Five minutes in and both of these teams have shown better composure and possession than we did last night.

SWP was poor no question but why play him on the left when J. Cole or Gerrard wd have fitted there more naturally? He was hardly the only player incapable of passing to his own men tbf.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:37 (fifteen years ago)

Cole's world class, Terry's good but slow enough to be exposed by a really good forward, Johnson we'll see when he has to defend, and sure Dawson or Upson can do job but by now they're cover for the recently-retired fourth-best centre-back xps

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:37 (fifteen years ago)

xp are we watching the same match? Both teams are offering very little IMO.

Neil S, Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:38 (fifteen years ago)

Don't think Carra coming on as sub means he'll be automatic first choice next Friday, especially given his performance last night.

xp

It's barely started but I still think they look better units than England did.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:40 (fifteen years ago)

They look better units, but England will still beat both of them.

I actually thought England played pretty well in the second half and certainly better than at any point during 2006, although that isn't saying much. They were passing it around nicely at the end but the finishing or lack of it is a massive worry.

Capello clearly told them at half time to get the ball out to Lennon as much as possible and get him to run with it, he looked peripheral in the first half and then suddenly most of our attacks were going through him. Heskey probably our best player. Rooney worryingly anonymous.

James Milner basically shat himself, didn't he? Think Capello realised he was a liability very early on.

1-1 was my prediction but we hardly ever start tournaments with a win and there's not much reason to panic yet.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:41 (fifteen years ago)

Was Milner ill or just horribly exposed?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:46 (fifteen years ago)

They look better units, but England will still beat both of them.

Well you'd think. But I'm not quite as dogmatically confident.

We played better partly because the US sat deep and let us, I think. Agree it was a better performance than 2006, agree that isn't saying much. Rooney probably didn't get great service to give him some slight defence. Like I said last night, I know we're not Brazil but I don't think it's asking too much that we keep the ball more and pass it better.

Incidentally, am I right in thinking that at least 2 or 3 of Heskey's (admittedly unnecessary) offsides last night were given despite him not having been involved in the move? What happened to the "not interfering" thing? Thought the ref was pretty bad tbh, bias aside.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:47 (fifteen years ago)

You'd hope that Gareth Barry in midfield will restore some composure, Gerrard yeah great goal but he just runs everywhere like a headless chicken and Lampard always seems to go missing at this level.

Yesterday really did resemble a mediocre Premiership game but it was kinda lol, England really should have won.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:50 (fifteen years ago)

James Milner basically shat himself, didn't he? Think Capello realised he was a liability very early on.

I think playing on the wrong side and tackling with the wrong leg was a factor in him giving away fouls and getting booked (booking was soft as shit too and since when did three fouls = persistent?).

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:52 (fifteen years ago)

Argentina Nigeria was fun yesterday though - Argentina look like they have one massive spanking in them but I can see them being undone by setpieces and/or not having a right-back.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:53 (fifteen years ago)

Heskey blocked a defender for one of his non-interfering offsides so was interfering but there was one other that didn't seem in the spirit of the shit rule.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:55 (fifteen years ago)

I know it's a shit rule but it'd be nice if FIFA cd get all its referees to play to the same shit rules.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:56 (fifteen years ago)

"These two teams really have to go for it today" lol missed last night's match?

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:58 (fifteen years ago)

Milner's foul after about two minutes was horrible though and he should've been booked for that. Can't blame the ref for cracking down on the next one

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:00 (fifteen years ago)

"DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY INTENT IN THERE"?????????

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:01 (fifteen years ago)

England will still win the group but round two could be pretty awkward

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:04 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah will be watching Serbia with interest later.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:12 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah looking forward to both of the later games.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:13 (fifteen years ago)

the problem i saw with england yesterday was that they seemed to have no way of effectively opening a defence. 2 fast wingers and lamps and gerrard isn't going to get you far when the opposition is lying deep in their half. they marked roo tightly and he was absent until he did his thing of dropping behind the midfield to get the ball, but that did give heskey some space and he looked the most likely conduit for any real chances. if only he was any cop. england will do better when they can break on a side, so they will likely look better against better teams if they get that far, but if they went home with three draws it wouldn't be the most shocking thing ever.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:14 (fifteen years ago)

england didn't control the ball at all, the game was a lottery as a result. they'll lose to anyone playing that way. thought roo was poor, not just due to marking, just didn't play well.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:17 (fifteen years ago)

The BBC's "ah who gives a shit" attitude to these two teams is terrible.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:17 (fifteen years ago)

I don't think it's asking too much that we keep the ball more and pass it better.

^^^ this

After about 20 minutes all I could think was wow, England can't keep the ball at all can they? Don't know why it felt like a surprise tho

The nation's most valiant right back (Suedey 2), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:18 (fifteen years ago)

10 seconds of "lol they're shit" then "let's talk about ENGLAND some more!"

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:18 (fifteen years ago)

I like how everyone/the media is now crying out for 4-3-3 with Rooney up front on his own + Joe Cole

Oh how things change

The nation's most valiant right back (Suedey 2), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:19 (fifteen years ago)

Yep. Lineker, Shearer et al full of shit chanting EAZ-EH EAZ-EH, but England are gonna have to break down 2 very defensive sides.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:20 (fifteen years ago)

The biggest saving grace for England is we won't have to play any of the group games in the heat that these 2 are playing in now.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:22 (fifteen years ago)

that algerian keeper isn't as mental as the af nations cup...yet!

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:24 (fifteen years ago)

Heskey looked great last night, I really wish he'd scored. Not so much for England's sake but his own. I kind of want to live in a world where that fairy tale comes true and they make movies about big soft spoken Emile Heskey overcoming the odds.

The nation's most valiant right back (Suedey 2), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:24 (fifteen years ago)

haven't heard of a single slovenia player, although one of them might be Preki. looking back at their group, looks like the czechs really slit their own throats to let slovenia in. good playoff result vs the soviet union, tho, so fair play to 'em.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:25 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdZworAkuXI

topical...

x-post it's called the Green Mile

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:25 (fifteen years ago)

BBC Sport's Alan Hansen, who is 55 today

"That was awful. I shouldn't be subjected to this sort of pain on my birthday."

He's just not paid paid enough iirc

The nation's most valiant right back (Suedey 2), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:25 (fifteen years ago)

It's ironic that Heskey's the one who pundits want dropped despite giving probably the best individual performance in the team last night.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:27 (fifteen years ago)

Good thing Capello doesn't listen to them.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:28 (fifteen years ago)

pretty crazy stuff, lets all sit and chat about how shit this game is as we're paid to be in s africa at the world cup...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:31 (fifteen years ago)

Most of the "lol it's shit" comments seem to be because they're being cagey on a hot day in the 1st group game. "Shd be bombing forward up the wings" waah waah lol English fucking football

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:33 (fifteen years ago)

us commentary update: these two teams are capable of influencing who goes through in their group

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:35 (fifteen years ago)

why are slovenia wearing everton's away kit from the zenith data systems cup of 1991

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:39 (fifteen years ago)

http://zeljko-heimer-fame.from.hr/images/si)lj.gif

i had to look up when slovenia wear green because it seemed to make no sense and that kind of shit bugs me. there are the (green) dragons, apparently.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

when=why
there=they

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

Glad I didn't bother watching at half time - nothing worse than a bunch of small-time hardmen trying to put everyone else on a downer

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:50 (fifteen years ago)

a bunch of small-time hardmen trying to put everyone else on a downer = ilx board decription

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

This is fucking boring but a 0-0 draw would be very nice.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:53 (fifteen years ago)

Alan Hansen: "That was awful. I shouldn't be subjected to this sort of pain on my birthday."

Waaaahmbulance time.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:54 (fifteen years ago)

Draw wd be fine but I can see one of these scoring, probly Slovenia.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:54 (fifteen years ago)

i was worried this would be a poor game when the teams came out and no one was wearing colourful boots.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:55 (fifteen years ago)

I was in what might euphemistically be described as a 'beer garden' (i.e. concrete, semi-covered area full of smokers) for most of the first half last night. The screen in our bit was showing the ITV HD channel, but the rest of the pub was showing normal ITV. You can imagine my frustration when we heard the rest of the pub roaring in celebration while we were treated to a Hyundai advert. To make matters worse, the HD channel was about 5 seconds behind the normal channel, but I didn't realise this at first. So when Green made his howler, it seemed that everyone in the pub had inexplicably decided to shout "oh no!" while nothing much was going on. This puzzled me so I dived into the pub, to see the aftermath of the goal. I dived back out into the beer garden to catch the same aftermath, having missed the goal when I dived into the pub. So I basically missed everything of note.

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:56 (fifteen years ago)

Slovenia won their last four qualifying games to overhaul Poland (by nine points!), Northern Ireland and the Czechs to take second, then Russia committed suicide for them in the play-offs too. So I guess 'just happy to be there' should be a fair description.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:58 (fifteen years ago)

Was about to say he wants booking for that

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:59 (fifteen years ago)

what a moron

EVALUATION COPY (cozen), Sunday, 13 June 2010 12:59 (fifteen years ago)

Always nice to see a sub manage to get a red

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:00 (fifteen years ago)

INCIDENT!

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:00 (fifteen years ago)

ouch xp

ouch at that red card too

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:00 (fifteen years ago)

Oh my that was nearly a classic

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:04 (fifteen years ago)

Defended was far too Laibach then

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:04 (fifteen years ago)

hahahahahahahahahaha

EVALUATION COPY (cozen), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:05 (fifteen years ago)

Making Green look good there

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:06 (fifteen years ago)

lol keeper

Vulvuzela (Ste), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:06 (fifteen years ago)

ball is too round again

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:06 (fifteen years ago)

Actually, was that Scott Carson?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:06 (fifteen years ago)

Celebration was worth waiting 80 minutes for

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:07 (fifteen years ago)

http://pinzoner.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/scottbaio2.jpg

better days for Chaouchi. :'(

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:07 (fifteen years ago)

great celebration.

there's nothing quite like hearing the pitch of the drone changing slightly when a goal goes in.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:07 (fifteen years ago)

AWESOME didn't realise Guedioura was in the squad

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:08 (fifteen years ago)

This lad can play a bit

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:09 (fifteen years ago)

BLACK COUNTRY DERBY

featuring some ex-Portsmouth players

MPx4A, Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:09 (fifteen years ago)

Zidane looks in a headbutting frame of mind

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:12 (fifteen years ago)

the voice of God says 4 minutes of added time

Vulvuzela (Ste), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

Don't think I've seen a referee add a second to what the fourth official indicates yet in the tournament.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:18 (fifteen years ago)

Dickhead last night blew early.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:19 (fifteen years ago)

fuckin bbc stream has been struggling, for such a shit game

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:20 (fifteen years ago)

Love how after he'd kicked him up in the air Komac ran after the guy wagging his finger as if to call him out for diving

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:21 (fifteen years ago)

some tight shirts those algerians are wearing

Vulvuzela (Ste), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:22 (fifteen years ago)

OK Group C just got kinda interesting

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:22 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.runofplay.com/2010/06/12/1-1/

On the England side, I wonder if we’re looking at a backlash against Capello’s clampdown regime. It was the story they brought him in for, but after two years of him banning bubble gum every week, you could conclude that they’re too antiseptic. You can’t win the duel if you’re too rule-bound to stab a guy, and Rooney’s a bull-headed kid. Maybe just let him curse.

rop otm

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:24 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah I'm sure Robert Green will be feeling a bit better right now.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:24 (fifteen years ago)

I always feel a bit sorry for shitty teams suffering these calamities - I mean England will come back and be fine, but that's two years of decent achievement by Algeria pissed up the wall in one go there

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:27 (fifteen years ago)

South Africa's World Cup organising chief Danny Jordaan may ban vuvuzelas from inside stadiums after complaints from broadcasters and supporters.

The constant sound of the high-pitched horn-like instrument has so far drowned out much of the atmosphere-generating singing usually associated with games.

And Jordaan, when asked if he would get rid of them, told BBC Sport: "If there are grounds to do so, yes.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

DON'T SUBMIT TO WHINY COLONIALIST BULLSHIT GUYZ

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:42 (fifteen years ago)

Peter Crouch representing for Pringles cos the tube is the same shape as him.

Meanwhile, come on Serbia

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:47 (fifteen years ago)

hope they do well but serbia/ghana rly lack good centre forwards

krasic tho

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:54 (fifteen years ago)

fuck serbia rly but they may play england so

no essien is a damn shame

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

http://twitter.com/search?q=%23worldcup#search?q=souness

lololol oh dear

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k82/nowak10/f4685fb4.jpg

dan m, Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

it's not colonialist, just get rid of the stupid fucking things, as the guy himself said it's not like s africa have no songs they can sing.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

raked ffs.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

More than two goals in this game might be nice. Think I would rather see England play Ghana than Serbia but should be fun. Where is Sulley Muntari?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

apart from one amazing game vs villa muntari has never been all that

nadir was getting two bookings as a sub last season, mourinho all 'yr dead to me', hardly played since

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

the vuvuzelas are kinda alright sometimes

i wonder what giacinto scelsi wd have made of them

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

ed elli avea del cul fatto trombetta

⚖ on my truck (dyao), Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

u get used to it imo.

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

UltraMantisWack I really don't know what's wrong with RTÉ. Yesterday they referred to the South Koreans as "Gooks" and now Souness has his rape moment.

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

vuvuzelas reminds me of the triumph video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isumZjs3dKA

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

Yesterday they referred to the South Koreans as "Gooks"

eeehh dont think so

Michael B, Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)

cracking game so far. both teams looking good now.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

ohhhh let off

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

when they say that this ball is more round, do they mean it is less like an egg or that it has more sides?

Vulvuzela (Ste), Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

Slo-Alg was... a game lj may have enjoyed. The last 15 were lol though. Will be hilarious seeing England go out to Slovenia.

Serbia-Ghana is dece, is Serbia's manager Mr. Big from Sex and the Shitty?

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

Will be hilarious seeing England go out to Slovenia

put all your money on this why don't you

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

ok.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

dullest world cup start ever.

Jarlrmai, Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

7/1 on england going out in the group stages = eaaaaaaasy money?

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

cool. go away and do that and then come back after the group stages and tell us how you got on.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

ITV broken again

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

ugh roger milla coke ad...who writes these drippy matey ads...is it some central hub of demons

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

STV done gone broked, have had to turn over to ITV London.
xpost

ailsa, Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/blog/dirty-tackle/post/David-Beckham-s-Matchface-a-gallery?urn=sow,247908

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

ronan has been on absolute fire in this thread btw

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

dullest world cup start ever

yeah seems so. we may have had gaff of the tournament already altho hopefully it won't matter.

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

Fuck an STV, like ITV is really bad but here Scotland have an even shittier version. Found a proper version of ITV up in the high numbers but no HD version :(

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

You've got a fighting chance of actually seeing the whole game now though...

ailsa, Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

Teams still haven't quite twigged that you should sidefoot it moderately hard at the keeper and hope it swerves rather than blasting it over

Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

aww bounced on a spin away

Vulvuzela (Ste), Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

sign him up for the cricket team

Vulvuzela (Ste), Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

http://imgur.com/ZGSbw.jpgZGSbw

James Mitchell, Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

If we need to have a new ball every four years it should be introduced a year before the tournament. Really shouldn't have "getting used to the ball" being a feature of the first two weeks of the biggest tournament in the world.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

AHH - Serbia's manager is perhaps best known in the UK for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyAUkaC6nsI

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

i've completely changed my mind about mensah. i've done an about turn on him based on this game.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

tho that prob puts me in just 3/4 per cent of the country

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

krasic with a terrible finish there

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

these games should be awful but I am enjoying them nonetheless...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

senseless!

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

idiotic there

Jibe, Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

fun stat: that's now three World Cup first group matches in a row that France haven't scored in (and the two late set piece goals v England in 04 are their only opening match goals in any WC/EC tournament in ten years).

when was the last time, if ever, that a team which didn't win their first game went on to win the world cup? france couldn't have come closer to this 4 years ago of course

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

oh those crazy serbs

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

monumentally stupid foul

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

ghana have looked short on ideas in the second half, even with the extra man. that's a total gift.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

Weird gap with nobody noticing or mentioning the handball there

Apparently I have Ghanaian neighbours I didn't know about

MPx4A, Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

I think the crowd are excited about that but you can hardly tell

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

yug ghana regret that, serbia.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

most impressive team of WC so far: s korea innit

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

Apparently I have Ghanaian neighbours I didn't know about

Or, y'know, Croatian.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

Loving the Ghana fans right now.

The ball is bothering me much more than the vuvus right now, how many long range shots have we seen swerve unpredictably wide of goal now?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTJduIBHDRo

THIS AIN'T NOTHING BUT ASAMOAH GYAN

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

xp yeah, i am usually very reluctant to buy into complaints about the ball but there is obviously a problem with this one.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

They never swerve towards goal, why is that?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

in the ESPN studio they were just talking about how that was the first time an African team had won a world cup game in Africa. are we struggling for storylines that much?

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

Good to see former Arsenal youth and future Ballon d'Or winner Quincy Owusu-Abeyie come on for the last 30 seconds.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe this will be a tournament decided by left footed footballers who get lucky as the ball swerves towards goal for them.

So far this tournament has chiefly been memorable for brilliant or inept goalkeeping.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

Townsend feeling the need to point out that Kuzmanovic's mistake was worse than Green's. Maybe he'll be England's pariah instead now.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

<3 Desailly's celebration.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

My Serbian flatmate has sulked off. Hoping he doesn't decide to ethnically cleanse my bedroom.

flanimal collective (Upt0eleven), Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

when was the last time, if ever, that a team which didn't win their first game went on to win the world cup? france couldn't have come closer to this 4 years ago of course

This happened in... '66! (suggban etc).

Did the Dempsey shot even swerve?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

Lol Jurgen Klinsman just said Capello should give Rob Green a hug. <3

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

Lol

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

when was the last time, if ever, that a team which didn't win their first game went on to win the world cup? france couldn't have come closer to this 4 years ago of course

I think this happens quite often, but I have no evidence to back this up.

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

ONE THOUSAND NEW ANSWERS

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

One thousand new answers for 8 boring games! What will it be when the excitement begins?

Jibe, Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

predicting now that tonight's game will be an absolute stormer

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

between two teams I like, as well

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

that ghana serbia game was v good i thought. all the games yesterday were decent. i didn't see the opener but it sounded good. so only a couple of stinkers so far. not sure what people b bitchin about.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)

people bitching about vuvuzelas and commentators, iirc

mizzell, Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:21 (fifteen years ago)

agree...have enjoyed all i've seen. england usa was a great game imo. more goals would be nice but still...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:21 (fifteen years ago)

btw

moratorium on vuvuzela bitching starts NOW -

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)

you are permitted to bitch about commentators and the ball

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)

Every time Alexei Lalas opens his mouth, a vuvuzela gets its wings >:(

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

Seems like Lalas has gotten extra sassy in the last 24 hrs. "QUIT TALKING ABOUT THE BALL, WHAT A STUPID PLAY, HE WASN'T THINKING, I'M MORTON DOWNEY JUNIOR"

Grisly Addams (WmC), Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:26 (fifteen years ago)

SEX MACHINES

EVALUATION COPY (cozen), Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:30 (fifteen years ago)

Horror of Alexei Lalas countered by Jurgen Klinsmann who is lovely by comparison.

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:34 (fifteen years ago)

All hugs all the time, JKSPN

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)

http://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/8333/1276422467/1966.gif

James Mitchell, Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)

hahahahahahahahahaha

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)

Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed it plenty - but other than South Africa's goal, South Korea, quite a lot of Argentina-Nigeria and all of England-USA, it's been pretty terrible so far. I'm consoling myself that tournaments never catch fire straight away, but with the horrible thought that some like 1990 never do at all. I've got Portugal-Ivory Coast down as an absolute banker epic, if it's a squib I will start to worry.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:52 (fifteen years ago)

it's Quieroz vs Eriksson so best to go in with the lowest of expectations really

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:56 (fifteen years ago)

Nice, but missed cutting to Alf Ramsay smiling after the advert.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Sunday, 13 June 2010 17:00 (fifteen years ago)

i dont remember a duller start to a tournament. Will we see a goal from a direct free kick or a 35 yard piledriver into the top corner this tournament? I really hope it wont be a world cup with lots of shit goals due to crap goalkeeping.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 13 June 2010 17:00 (fifteen years ago)

Last time out it took ages before a goal came from a free kick, didn't it (have vague memories of it being Michael Ballack about two weeks in)

ailsa, Sunday, 13 June 2010 17:03 (fifteen years ago)

the last Women's World Cup was notable for almost every single free-kick within 25 yards going in

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 17:05 (fifteen years ago)

I linked to an article about altitude last week - I remember now that one thing it does is hinder long shots & free kicks because the ball doesn't come down quite as quickly. It's only a few ball-lengths of a difference but I guess that's the whole margin that these guys are trying to operate in.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 17:10 (fifteen years ago)

Im sure there was a lot of long shots going in during mexico 86 which was at altitude.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 13 June 2010 17:14 (fifteen years ago)

it's all just beginning, no cause for panic yet!

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 17:16 (fifteen years ago)

They need to store the balls in a humidor. Alexei saying basically that England is crap and the sooner they realize it the better was charming.

keythhtyek, Sunday, 13 June 2010 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe. They can still go in obviously, you just have to be more accurate. It affects swerving too in a similar way - there's something like 20% less air in Johannesburg for the ball to push against so it goes faster and doesn't bend/dip in time if you aim normally. If players were aiming normally (i.e. to clip the post on the way in) we should see a lot of shots going narrowly wide and over, but tbh we're not so that probably isn't the reason

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 17:21 (fifteen years ago)

It's ok, none of the good teams have played yet

The nation's most valiant right back (Suedey 2), Sunday, 13 June 2010 17:21 (fifteen years ago)

Torres has a new haircut you guys

The nation's most valiant right back (Suedey 2), Sunday, 13 June 2010 17:22 (fifteen years ago)

you would be hitting the ball a bit further i guess, i mean on rugby it's fairly well documented that in s africa you get these freakishly long drop goals etc.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 17:22 (fifteen years ago)

ya I remember in 2006 Pirlo banging a few free kicks 20 yards over the bar, and that all worked out okay eventually. Right that it's a bit silly to introduce the new ball at this time, though.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 13 June 2010 17:37 (fifteen years ago)

i know it's funny but i was in a pub on friday and a bloke had one vuvuzela, it was so noisy, that's just one. almost exactly like the noise you get scraping a chair or table along a wooden floor.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 17:41 (fifteen years ago)

Neuer, Friedrich, Badstuber, Mertesacker, Lahm, Khedira, Schweinsteiger, Ozil, Podolski, Klose, Muller

this is quite interesting, the midfield especially

cld be one of the more fluid / technical teams and plenty of opportunity for flakiness in defence

neuer is v highly rated

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 June 2010 17:51 (fifteen years ago)

god, Badstuber, why

pretty interesting team on paper tho yes

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 17:54 (fifteen years ago)

other than South Africa's goal, South Korea, quite a lot of Argentina-Nigeria and all of England-USA, it's been pretty terrible so far

^that's quite a lot tho.

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:04 (fifteen years ago)

"I wouldn't say they've done well, they've done OK... they're still Australia. To be fair."

Edgar Davids = collllllld.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:06 (fifteen years ago)

Podolski starting!! I think Heskey may have more goals this season. I was hoping to see Marin:(

pandemic, Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

tbh he's playing on the wing rite? & is kinda lazy rather than just waste like heskey

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

this game is great!

Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

^^

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

Germans not pissing about as usual

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)

fucking brilliant ball by Muller, didn't even seem to have to look up before playing it for Podolski

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:40 (fifteen years ago)

podolski has always been way better for the national team

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:40 (fifteen years ago)

germans looking supreme here

vulvazela n., an owner of a vuvuzela (cozen), Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

thought the card was a bad decision, juked out the way and fell over. just because there's no contact doesn't make it a dive. he was clean through, no need to dive.

vulvazela n., an owner of a vuvuzela (cozen), Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

Podolski starting!! I think Heskey may have more goals this season. I was hoping to see Marin:(

― pandemic, Sunday, June 13, 2010 6:18 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark

sonned by Lucas!

pandemic, Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

wtf is up with Low and his assistant 's identical clothes

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

He dived. Clearly.

Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:52 (fifteen years ago)

would have put my house on Klose there

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

that was beautiful

pandemic, Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

meh didn't look like a dive to me

vulvazela n., an owner of a vuvuzela (cozen), Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

the build up not the finish obvs

pandemic, Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

Conservatives: "Obama's policies are the World Cup," soccer is "a poor man or poor woman's sport"

http://mediamatters.org/research/201006110040

this is what we're up against u guys

dan m, Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

and Lolas too obv

dan m, Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

OK, Germany are GOOD. Based on this so far, them v Serbia and Ghana will be lots of fun.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

Really liking Germany. They've got this overlapping runners from deep thing pegged. Aussie centre backs are woeful though.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

klose shouldn't even bother trying to kick it

mizzell, Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

;_;

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

I told you Germany were the second-team of choice

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

Oi Lucas Neil it's not the linesman getting decisions wrong it's you playing offside incompetently you arse!

pandemic, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

poor socceroos

mookieproof, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

Counting the minutes till Craig Moore's red card.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

'a few ball lengths of difference' seems like quite a lot!

The Clegg Effect (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

if that had gone in it would have been a GOTT (IN HIMMEL!) contender

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

Only (around) one in twenty direct free kicks have resulted in goals in World Cup history - I don't think we've even had ten taken yet - seems teams are so scared of the new ball they're being extra cautious around the penalty area.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

omg and again

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

I feel nauseous

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

Ozil loving running past these old men.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

Neil is having a terrible match.

Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

I say you chaps this German team is rather good.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

Also worth mentioning how good Neuer's been, done an excellent job of snuffing out danger in the German box so far.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)

there has been danger in the german box?

mookieproof, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:16 (fifteen years ago)

First convincing performance of the tournament, then. This half, anyway.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

germans have really annexed this game. plenty of lebensraum up front. aussies look gassed.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

"It's all about shouting 'FUCK OFF' at Ray Winstone"

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

xpost otm Neuer better than Adler for me this season

pandemic, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

England better make sure they win Group C.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

^

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

I might support Germany anyway though ;-)

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

Germany could have had four or five and look excellent but Australia are asking no questions of them whtsoever. They are awful when not in possession.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

England better get another keeper then.

Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

I might support Germany anyway though ;-)

Can see why you wouldn't be rooting for Greece

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:23 (fifteen years ago)

cyprus != greece

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

yeah wouldn't get too carried away just yet - Germany started just like this against Poland two years ago. not sure how much improved they are since then (not that they aren't semis candidates by default always regardless of form).

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

yeah and Germany got to the final playing good football

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)

Australia practically yelling at the Germans to slow down. Embarrassing defensive vaccuum. And god stop whining for penalties. It's only cute when we are whining.
Oh the shame...

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)

Lol oops I meant it's only cute when we are winning.

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.socialistunity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/mark-steel.jpg

Joachim Löw speaking at an SWP meeting, yesterday

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

yeah and Germany got to the final playing good football

great going forward, ropey defence

it changes nothing from England's pov

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

Gotta stop badmouthing England, we looked easily as good as Germany yesterday.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)

ha, i wouldn't go that far

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)

...and neither will England. BOOM BOOM

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

only on ILX

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

fewtbowl

how do i spud webb (am0n), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

Australia have pwn3d the first four minutes of both halves here

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

I remember Germany's defence being dodgy a couple of years ago, still not sure they're contenders.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

Decent penalty shout there for the Aussies & they're getting a bit more possession.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

i just realised that if you pause the stream at half-time it starts again from where you paused it afterwards. fuck you, itv

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

Isn't that how pausing is supposed to work?

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

fucking wonderful football there

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

And Australia think *they've* got problems?!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

ok that was gorgeous play from Germany

The Clegg Effect (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

Bad challenge but ffs

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

Wtf!

Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

ok that was gorgeous play from Germany

yes I love the old cut back > dummy > shot

Cahill out!

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

referee's a looney

cozen, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

Ozil is a fuckin' contender, no doubt. Remember chief complaint about German defence is always they're too slow (one of Hansen's favourite touchstones). Richard Garcia isn't the guy to test that, no.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

Not even that bad actually

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

typical Germans luck

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

aw man, sorry cahill

156, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

Koala taco popularity about to plunge.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

i get the feeling he's been itching to send someone off

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

Ref won't be taking any further part in the tournament.

Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

bound to be another one before the games finished if that's the standard.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

That's Tim Cahill's World Cup over because Australia aint getting out of this group.

I wonder if Germany are actually better for not having Ballack in the team?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

this Aussie kit is garbage btw

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

ballack vs khadira basically

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

Moore coulda been off there as that looked like a penalty

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

germans at an absolute canter now

cozen, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

Moore coulda been off there as that looked like a penalty

all evens itself up over the course of 3 minutes

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

Germany use the ball so intelligently - they waste so little. Don't have to be Spain to do this.

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

back in Feb i bet on 5-1 Germany at 80-1 so pull your finger out lads

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

This game needs more German handball.

Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

fouls suffered!

pandemic, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

I am watching this with some Germans and they are taking the piss out of their own team something chronic (but being really funny with it).

BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

Klose & Podolski have scored 10 of Germany's last 15 WC goals!

(from @OptaJose)

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

how was that not a booking

mookieproof, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

The red doesn't actually seem to be hindering Australia at all. I'm guessing Germany are happy to just see this one out now.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

klose shouldn't even bother trying to kick it

― mizzell, Sunday, June 13, 2010 2:57 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark

mizzell, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

that was great

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

Or maybe score a few more.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

noice

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

That was excellent.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

German team has a lot of Polish.

Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

this is great

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

bosh

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

peaked too early

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

also yes this is awesome

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

Good grief.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

who said they've peaked?

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

This could turn into an almighty tonking now.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

Joachim's all "Hey who else on the bench wants a goal?"

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

Tournament over for Australia.

Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

Low is putting on ANOTHER striker. That's just taking the piss.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

was just joeks acol

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

and last season's bundesliga's highest scoring german is still on the bench

mizzell, Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

in stark contrast to the French, Germany have now scored 16 goals in their last three WC openers

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

prospect of england versus germany is p.exciting

cozen, Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

they'll be smashing shop windows on the streets of germany tonight

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

Poor Oz. They're going about things quite well, far from the worst side so far, but no threat up front. Much too limited to cope with the German fluency here.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

Soccer is pain. Vuvuzelas sound like bandsaws now.

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

Strewth.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

ROO-BISH

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

No wonder the Australians had to invent Australian Rules Football...

Fat Dog Franklin (snoball), Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

ROO-FUL

cozen, Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, these dudes are gonna go far. always seem to know what they should be doing with the ball, in marked contrast to England. probably won't get to see how their defence will cope under concerted pressure in the group stages, but that's the only obvious question mark.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

Soccer-ROOTED

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

Why is this game so bloody long ;_;

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

"4 goals allowed in 14 qualifying matches (4 tonight)"...hahahaha fuck.

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

Well, if England meet the Germans in the next round at least we won't have to hang around for penalties.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.sportsdirect.com/england-funny-t-shirts-mens-370997?colcode=37099704

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

Looking at the Cahill challenge again he's well late, from behind, and nowhere near the ball. Maybe a bit harsh but I can see why the ref sent him off, regardless of any lack of malice detected by ITV commentators.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/5961982/

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, these dudes are gonna go far. always seem to know what they should be doing with the ball, in marked contrast to England. probably won't get to see how their defence will cope under concerted pressure in the group stages, but that's the only obvious question mark.

― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 21:13 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

no naziism references?

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

red card wasn't that harsh btw

xposts!!! haha

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

A bloke came into the snug looking for aggro because everybody in here was applauding Germany's fourth and "they're the enemy". Luckily we were in with the Germans by then, plus the first people he picked on was our mate from the local Italian restaurant, so he ran away.

BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

no naziism references?

leave 'em wanting more

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

germany will probably play argentina again in the qf

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

Patrick Vieira channelling Rafa "the referee was perfect" :)

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

Looking at the way Pigfucker's ankle buckled under that Cahill challenge I think the ref made the right call, he could have broken it.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

it's actually translated Pig Climber and yes it was a red card

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

yeah I think after seeing it from that angle it might not have been that harsh after all. Would love to see the tackle from behind absent from footy.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

He prob wouldve escaped a yellow over here right enough..

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:36 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah okay, I thought the ref was just been an officious prick, but can't really complain about a red there. An easy way to avoid such controversies would also be not to make tackles like that.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)

It's 6 PM and I'm going cold turkey without one more match

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Sunday, 13 June 2010 21:11 (fifteen years ago)

fantastic stuff from the germans. great understanding between klose and podolski. would happily see them win the trophy...for a change. ozil looks a tremendous player.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 21:12 (fifteen years ago)

ozil looks a tremendous player.

Only a year left on his contract according to wikipedia - I can see a few clubs after him in the coming weeks if he turns in another couple of performances like that.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 21:16 (fifteen years ago)

think i've seen him linked with arsenal before...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 13 June 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)

is this the first time north AND south korea have been in the world cup together? pity they won't be meeting up.

taojjbtcrf (or something), Sunday, 13 June 2010 21:33 (fifteen years ago)

They met in qualification - two draws iirc, but north korea had to play their home game in china because they refused to allow in the south's flag

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 21:36 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah a North v South Korea tie could only ease tensions between the two nations during the current diplomatic difficulties.

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 21:37 (fifteen years ago)

Just as well England-US was a draw

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder if Germany are actually better for not having Ballack in the team?

Was thinking that. Certainly more likable.

sonofstan, Sunday, 13 June 2010 21:40 (fifteen years ago)

Just as well England-US was a draw

Pouring oil on troubled waters

Lampard 2: Lamparder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 June 2010 21:40 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, good job England didn't tonk them or someone would have mentioned 'a gulf in class' and then it would have kicked off proper like.

sonofstan, Sunday, 13 June 2010 21:46 (fifteen years ago)

Deliberately unslick performance

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 June 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

poxy fuel

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 13 June 2010 21:57 (fifteen years ago)

as much as i hate them bzzzzing on, i think it'd be infair to stop hosting nations peoples fun...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8737455.stm

not_goodwin, Sunday, 13 June 2010 22:09 (fifteen years ago)

gulf of tonkin' xps

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 June 2010 22:09 (fifteen years ago)

you mess with South Africa, you get the horns imo

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Sunday, 13 June 2010 22:17 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder if Germany are actually better for not having Ballack in the team?

Graeme Souness was saying that this was the general opinion in Germany on TV the other day.

Number None, Sunday, 13 June 2010 23:27 (fifteen years ago)

ColinUdoh

BIG TROUBLE at Durban Stadium!! Something just exploded. outside. Media being forced to stay inside the Media Centre about 1 hour ago via web

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 23:42 (fifteen years ago)

I should read more before copying http://twitter.com/ColinUdoh

Some kind of protest by a security firm broken up by armed police with stun grenades.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Sunday, 13 June 2010 23:43 (fifteen years ago)

ooof, what a horrorshow. we've never been much use without the ball so i wasn't expecting much else, but isolating cahill upfront wasn't going to work because he's always better coming from deep. we need to start with kennedy against ghana because an aerial threat will be better than nothing, frankly, and desperately need more pace - drop garcia for vidosic, chipperfield for carney, pull culina back to help grella screen the two creaky centre-backs (you all may lol but they're probably still the two best options for us). we probably have to play kewell from the start too, because why bring him if he's not going to play?

it makes me a bit angry - not the result because every country has been whacked at a world cup, if we thought it'd never happen to us then we're a bit naive - this result is perfect for various sanctimonious media types who talk a lot but never really put up any solutions other than 'we should play more like brazil / holland / france'.

amuse-douche (haitch), Monday, 14 June 2010 05:02 (fifteen years ago)

looking forward to Netherlands v Denmark.

Gotta say, the ball looks fucked.

carpe carp (S-), Monday, 14 June 2010 05:19 (fifteen years ago)

So are we not counting out the Germans?

(btw disgrace that is was not said yesterday. Memes go further back than Daniel Sturridge you know, who coincedentally signed for Chelsea).

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 06:33 (fifteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/Nfnze.jpg

James Mitchell, Monday, 14 June 2010 08:06 (fifteen years ago)

Ledders out for the next 2-3 weeks?

BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Monday, 14 June 2010 08:23 (fifteen years ago)

King injured? How utterly unpredictable.

Fingers crossed for a Dawson-Upson partnership by the Slovenia game.

Pete W, Monday, 14 June 2010 08:49 (fifteen years ago)

Carragher-Carrick for Germany in round two

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 08:53 (fifteen years ago)

It's OK, Gareth Barry started out as a centre back. We can just play Lampard and Gerrard in midfield, there's no reason they shouldn't be able to play together.

MPx4A, Monday, 14 June 2010 08:55 (fifteen years ago)

I've been out, have we covered how Carragher should already have been sent off twice in his 45 minutes of this WC?

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 08:59 (fifteen years ago)

I love not supporting England in the World Cup. It's so much better than the alternative.

Pete W, Monday, 14 June 2010 09:01 (fifteen years ago)

Kevin Keegan was heard to be saying "they're both top players, there's no reason they can't..." on Saturday but the end of his sentence was drowned out by me shouting "fuck off Keegan" at the TV.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 09:01 (fifteen years ago)

Well, better to have an insane shirt-yanking liability who expressly has no interest in playing for his country but inexplicably gets away with 90% of the mixed martial arts techniques he pulls off than an untested Michael Dawson, I guess? Shrug

MPx4A, Monday, 14 June 2010 09:03 (fifteen years ago)

Keegan looks like a little fuzzy new born chick.

Pete W, Monday, 14 June 2010 09:04 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah Townsend dropped the traditional Gerrard-Lampard liebomb during the Mexico friendly and I started quietly weeping with rage.

MPx4A, Monday, 14 June 2010 09:04 (fifteen years ago)

I am possibly naively expecting that if Barry gets back in the team and Gerrard goes out to the left, England will grind out a couple of sedately paced, ultra-boring qualifying style 4-1 wins in the next couple of games, and that Heskey will possibly even score in one of them.

MPx4A, Monday, 14 June 2010 09:06 (fifteen years ago)

Carragher got absolutely raked by Jozy Altidore (I think) on several occasions on Saturday, his lack of pace is more worrying than the possibility of him doing a Mortal Kombat finishing move on a poor Algerian striker which the ref inexplicably fails to notice.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 09:11 (fifteen years ago)

I basically saw about 20 minutes of that match from being stuck in one of those nightmarish four deep bar clusterfucks.

We won't know true fear unless Ashley Cole gets injured.

MPx4A, Monday, 14 June 2010 09:17 (fifteen years ago)

Directly linked, surely?

King out for WC.

Cappello is obviously unquestionable, obviously. But in the past month he's hardly made a decision that hasn't been 100% nonsense. You have to trust that there's a master plan at work here.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 09:18 (fifteen years ago)

Playing James Milner and then SWP over Joe Cole on Saturday was the real head-scratcher. The King injury is a predictable fuck-up but it's not as if there were many top-class central defenders queueing up to go in his place.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 09:24 (fifteen years ago)

I wouldn't blame him for King, in fairness, no- and it's not his fault that Green has never had goalkeeping lessons either.

But SWP, Carragher travelling, not making a decision on Gerrard/Lampard, the running Heskey joke, not bringing Huddlestone/Bent (obviously), Milner from the start the last night- there's not many out there who've seen these players before that would agree with these calls.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 09:31 (fifteen years ago)

Tyldesley (was it him?) coupla minutes after Gerrard's goal, "This could be fun!" Good call, mate.

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 09:34 (fifteen years ago)

Think ITV's coverage probably edged BBC yesterday, don't recall them saying too much heinous shit and the BBC were stuck in obnoxious "this game is terrible, why are we here" mode.

MPx4A, Monday, 14 June 2010 09:37 (fifteen years ago)

I think you'll find that RTE coverage trumped both.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 09:37 (fifteen years ago)

Did it...rake them?

MPx4A, Monday, 14 June 2010 09:38 (fifteen years ago)

Billo and Dunphy basically going through the German cliches one by one, checking with Didi Hamann were they true or not.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 09:39 (fifteen years ago)

"this game is terrible, why are we here"

Indeed, fuck off to the golf course then, Hansen, let someone who actually likes football do your job instead

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 09:40 (fifteen years ago)

Haha. I bet he still preferred that to having Townsend patronisingly tossing him conversational scraps. I guess ideally BBC would have had it with Jurgen enthusing, mildly enthusiastically.

MPx4A, Monday, 14 June 2010 09:41 (fifteen years ago)

Edgar = morose
Clarence = smooth

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 09:42 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, also pissed me off that Shearer was basically like "we know nothing about either of these teams, indeed why would we, but apparently Slovenia only conceded four goals in qualifying so I've done my homework", I can sleep soundly knowing that my licence fee is paying for that level of professionalism ay

MPx4A, Monday, 14 June 2010 09:42 (fifteen years ago)

When the Beeb started showing off their World Cup bus, I actually shouted 'that's my licence fee' at the telly like some sort of Torygraph columnist out for some easy outrage.

x-post

Thought Heskey actually played pretty well on Saturday, but would still rather see the Crouch up there. The only Spurs player in history who doesn't make me want to vomit on sight.

Pete W, Monday, 14 June 2010 09:44 (fifteen years ago)

I've quite enjoyed Jonathan Pearce correctly pronouncing African names with obvious relish, like he's going "in your face David Pleat" at all times.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 09:45 (fifteen years ago)

Have we lolled at this yet?

http://images.newstatesman.com/new_york_post.jpg

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 09:46 (fifteen years ago)

yes we have. tbf, they knew what they were doing.

xp what is it that people don't like about Crouch? apart from anti-gangly prejudice of course?

tomofthenest, Monday, 14 June 2010 09:48 (fifteen years ago)

LOL. Tho less o' th' British, guys.

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 09:49 (fifteen years ago)

Noticed Chris Coleman (why?) seemed to be pronouncing Serbian players properly (-ich as opposed to -ik) only if he knew who they were, which was odd

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 09:49 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, I lolled.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 09:49 (fifteen years ago)

"To England’s horror, the ball skipped off Green’s scooped mitts and rolled across the line like King George only wished he could have made Thomas Jefferson’s and John Adams’s heads roll in 1776. Had that happened, Tim Howard might have been playing goal for England yesterday. Instead, North Brunswick, N.J.’s, finest was also America’s yesterday, the latest reason to celebrate that our founding fathers pressed the issue."

tomofthenest, Monday, 14 June 2010 09:52 (fifteen years ago)

US tabloids >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> British tabloids

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 09:53 (fifteen years ago)

Think ITV's coverage probably edged BBC yesterday, don't recall them saying too much heinous shit and the BBC were stuck in obnoxious "this game is terrible, why are we here" mode.

Hate those pricks. Having to endure any game not featuring a Big Team or England is treated as a day off their paid holiday.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Monday, 14 June 2010 09:54 (fifteen years ago)

What happened at Bunker Hill? Assume it was some sort War of Independence thing.

Not knowing squat about War of Independence means I don't understand half the anti-Brit taunts directed at me by smartass Yanks.

Pete W, Monday, 14 June 2010 09:55 (fifteen years ago)

Algeria v Slovenia was pretty terrible in fairness.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 09:57 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, it's like the inverse of how America got a win-win situation in the football by drawing with us at a sport they don't care about anyway.

Really think BBC are wasting Dixon by just cutting to him for the occasional tactical insight, the Shearer and Hansen sandwiching patronised foreign player dynamic is gonna get old really fast, and there's no spittle flecked dodderer in the O'Neill/Strachan vein to shake things up.

Wasn't scrutinising ultra-close yesterday but it seemed Clive T was just enjoying himself and knew what he was talking about? Without any obvious tedious agenda to shoehorn in he seems to be better.

MPx4A, Monday, 14 June 2010 09:58 (fifteen years ago)

Xp to Pete W ^.

MPx4A, Monday, 14 June 2010 09:59 (fifteen years ago)

You evidently missed Tyldesley's "he's got a pot on his head, I wonder what he was thinking when he got dressed for the game this morning, and look, that man's even brought a trumpet, whatever will they think of next?" during the Ghana game then?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:02 (fifteen years ago)

A trumpet I tell you! Crazy!

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:02 (fifteen years ago)

I guess even a stopped watch which is right twice a day accidentally gets a bit quasi-racist during the two times a day it's right

MPx4A, Monday, 14 June 2010 10:03 (fifteen years ago)

Algeria v Slovenia was pretty terrible in fairness.

I agree it was a dull match but it was written off in the studio before it started - like "there's a game on, it's probably going to be shite, wish we were on a golf course... should we give you the teams or will we just talk about England?"

In terms of quality of passing, control and chances created how far was it behind Eng vs USA?

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:04 (fifteen years ago)

Goalkeeping error wasn't half as classy.

Pete W, Monday, 14 June 2010 10:05 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, call a spade a spade and everything but the pre-emptive "fuck this shit" attitude was what irritated

MPx4A, Monday, 14 June 2010 10:05 (fifteen years ago)

In terms of quality of passing, control and chances created how far was it behind Eng vs USA?

Though USA passed the ball quite well tbf

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:06 (fifteen years ago)

After they settled down. Serious case of jitters in the first half.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:20 (fifteen years ago)

Or just realising that England were *holds nose*

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:21 (fifteen years ago)

I thought England was passing very well actually - they seemed like the "adults", and the USA seemed like boys. But eventually our defense gelled and, I mean, I think we were actually juts pretty fricking good and hard to get through! It doesn't all have to be about England sucking

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:22 (fifteen years ago)

I mean Christ, the condescension here is unbelievable - Bocanegra is GOOD, Demerit is GOOD, Bradley is GOOD - sure, Capello made some selection errors but that doesn't explain all the balls we cut out, doesn't explain Rooney's complete no-show. It's not because he stunk - he's one of the best attackers in the world - it's because the USA played well!

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:27 (fifteen years ago)

Not trying to condescend, to be clear- I think the USA had the better chances, tbh, and should have been playing against ten men once Carragher elbowed Altidore.

But that can co-exist with England being utter toss, and Capello's calls were a contributor to that.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:33 (fifteen years ago)

^ OTM

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:34 (fifteen years ago)

I don't think so. We know the US are good, but it's also fair to say that, with the players they have, England playing well should beat them. The hand-wringing is because England did not play well, and more particularly because Capello doesn't look like he's going to build a good side out of those players.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 10:34 (fifteen years ago)

England's performances in the friendlies leading up to this have to be taken into account. It's quite a while since they put in 90 mins of professional-standard football imo.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:38 (fifteen years ago)

What We Should All Remember
A short note to all the mailboxers deriding England's performance this weekend:

England's 1966 campaign started with an unconvincing draw....

Believe!
Ben ~MancManYoo~

Ben !OTM

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:39 (fifteen years ago)

ManC ManYoo

Ben needs to make his mind up

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:40 (fifteen years ago)

Heard this innumerable times already. Also abt. 1990 WC, which England failed to win. Right not to jump to conclusions after one game though, ditto Germany.

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:41 (fifteen years ago)

England hardly ever play well in their opening game, in any tournament, form what i can see.

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:42 (fifteen years ago)

You know, I didn't think England were utter toss, I just think they lost their flow and confidence as the game progressed and then settled for the draw knowing that this would be the toughest test before the second round. USA were, as to be expected, competent without being incredibly exciting. tbh before the tournament no-one had any great expectations for England anyway. but haters gotta hate and so on.

tomofthenest, Monday, 14 June 2010 10:42 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah that's my sense as well. Maybe I just don't know enough about football but I thought England were passing it around well and had a lot of chances..? Yes we broke up most of them and our goalkeeper is awesome and England might have played better with a different lineup on the field but...?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:44 (fifteen years ago)

England WERE passing it around well, in the second half at least, there's a lot of glass-half-empty bollocks doing the rounds that wouldn't be applied to other teams.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:45 (fifteen years ago)

tbh before the tournament no-one had any great expectations for England anyway

This is so not true. Where were the in the betting? 3rd or 4th favourites?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:45 (fifteen years ago)

Bookies give favourable odds to England because they know a load of people are going to bet on England no matter what.

But Rooney did have a poor game Tracer, it's not necessarily that the US defence was amazing at cutting him out of the game, Rooney at his best can beat virtually any defence as he's shown in the Champions League.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:47 (fifteen years ago)

England weren't as bad as France, that's for sure.

This is so not true. Where were the in the betting? 3rd or 4th favourites?

In betting shops in England, maybe.

Pete W, Monday, 14 June 2010 10:48 (fifteen years ago)

Has anybody ever compared the odds around the world? Be interested to see how much difference it makes, I bet the home nation is third or fourth different in almost every country.

Pete W, Monday, 14 June 2010 10:50 (fifteen years ago)

ideally though you want to have more than one striker who can put the fucking ball in the fucking net so that if the defence gang up on rooney or he has an off day/decided he wants to play as right back, one can pass the ball to, say, heskeyplus who can actually score a goal.

show me your buccina (ken c), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:50 (fifteen years ago)

Uh, that's what I mean, in England there were expectations.

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:50 (fifteen years ago)

I'm sure, thanks largely to the Premiership, there were great expectations for England all over the world. They have a few of the most famous footballers on the planet playing for them.

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:51 (fifteen years ago)

The atmosphere in England has been a lot more "you'd better not fucking underachieve again" than the "WE CAN WIN IT!" hubris we got in 02 and 06.

Teams who are unequivocally more likely to win the World Cup than England:

Spain
Brazil
Argentina
Germany

And that's it. Portugal and France are on a par and possibly slightly worse and no one else will do it. Italy I'm ruling out because no one ever retains the World Cup and a lot of the team are pretty ancient.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:53 (fifteen years ago)

if slovakia fucks new zealand wholedong tomorrow will the commentators jizz themselves and proclaim them now favourites to win the world cup like they did with germany last night?

show me your buccina (ken c), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:53 (fifteen years ago)

fuck this

robben still injured, kuyt plays :x

h8 him

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 June 2010 10:54 (fifteen years ago)

from the ad break in the build-up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMRMW1FXSHw

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:54 (fifteen years ago)

I bet the home nation is third or fourth different in almost every country.

I would certainly expect this in Germany, altho they probably don't have as big a market there - sensible bastards.

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:54 (fifteen years ago)

Teams who are unequivocally more likely to win the World Cup than England:

Spain
Brazil
Argentina
Germany

Don't remember much mention of Germany before the World Cup. And tbh I would probably take Holland, at their best, to beat England.

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:55 (fifteen years ago)

america got freedom right? lol slaves.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:57 (fifteen years ago)

I dunno about teams that are more likely than england to win the WC, but I can pull a list off the FIFA website of c. 200 odd countries with the same chance of doing it.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:58 (fifteen years ago)

this is fairly good

* 01 Stekelenburg
* 02 Van Der Wiel
* 03 Heitinga
* 04 Mathijsen
* 05 Van Bronckhorst
* 06 Van Bommel
* 08 De Jong
* 10 Sneijder
* 23 Van der Vaart
* 07 Kuyt Robben
* 09 Van Persie

the defence isn't ~that~ crap rly

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 June 2010 10:58 (fifteen years ago)

gilol van bronckhorst but yeah, that is a p sweet team

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:00 (fifteen years ago)

Holland will win 4-1, everybody will get excited and then they'll get spanked in the knock outs. As predictable as England.

Pete W, Monday, 14 June 2010 11:01 (fifteen years ago)

Don't Robben, Sneijder and RVP all hate each other?

Pete W, Monday, 14 June 2010 11:02 (fifteen years ago)

no idea about Denmark at all...probably on a par with Serbia so liable to flop.

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:02 (fifteen years ago)

xxxp

I dunno they're lacking giants like Carragher and Heskey in their midst, I'd put England as clear favourites ahead of them, especially with Capello at the helm.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:02 (fifteen years ago)

Dunno why we're even talking about this seeing as there isn't a single person on this thread who actually expects England to win the tournament.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:05 (fifteen years ago)

no vds but heitinga/mathijsen are well covered in midfield and van der wiel is highly rated

considering their recent form sneijder/vdv/robben/van persie ≈ ramires/kaka/robinho/fabiano

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 June 2010 11:05 (fifteen years ago)

xp A Hoy Hoy would've done but ye left out Walcott

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:05 (fifteen years ago)

My Danish neighbour tells me they are pretty shit, with all their best players being oldies from 2002. I mean, Gronkjaer is still knocking around. They are third or fourth favourites in all Copenhagen bookmakers though.

Pete W, Monday, 14 June 2010 11:07 (fifteen years ago)

^ liking this btw

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 11:10 (fifteen years ago)

dutch team seems below their usual standard for world cups i can remember, and they did fuck all with the better teams, so can't see a persuasive argument for them doing anything here. part of what was the unhappy trinity with England and Spain of teams whose players underperform for their countries and can be relied upon to disappear pathetically in the knockouts, until Spain went and fucked that up.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 14 June 2010 11:15 (fifteen years ago)

Their record is better than England's over the last 20-30 years?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:17 (fifteen years ago)

I dunno, the Dutch even have a worse penalty record than England

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:18 (fifteen years ago)

Not in the World Cup maybe, but certainly in the Euros(xp)

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:20 (fifteen years ago)

Yes, Holland's WC record is pretty dire!

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:21 (fifteen years ago)

edgar davids is hilar

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

they have been playing rly well lately, they're not as powerful or as the teams w/ rvn/kluivert/davids/stam or obv van basten/rijkaard/gullit but seemingly less fractious and w/out the hauteur and entitlement

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 June 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

Sam's wacky predictions: At least 5 goals in this game.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:27 (fifteen years ago)

^ must eat testicles if incorrect

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:28 (fifteen years ago)

agger/kjaer is damn good for a lil country

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 June 2010 11:29 (fifteen years ago)

Doing my daily bets (up £5.75 so far :D)... what do we know/think of Japan?

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:31 (fifteen years ago)

Craig Burley why god why? Eh I guess he's acceptable by ITV standards.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:31 (fifteen years ago)

For his world cup pedigree obv

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 11:33 (fifteen years ago)

He has scored in a World Cup!

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:36 (fifteen years ago)

So he has - I just remember his petulant red card and no teeth

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 11:38 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah well so has Heskey ffs

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:38 (fifteen years ago)

lol ball drop

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:40 (fifteen years ago)

Ball complaint #1 - that looked easy but Sorensen could barely get himself behind it

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 11:41 (fifteen years ago)

Hadn't thought through the political implications of Holland playing in SA. Bet there are some lovely local ppl supporting Holland there.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:45 (fifteen years ago)

fuck you espn3.com

max, Monday, 14 June 2010 11:45 (fifteen years ago)

fuck you cablevision

max, Monday, 14 June 2010 11:45 (fifteen years ago)

Hadn't thought through the political implications of Holland playing in SA. Bet there are some lovely local ppl supporting Holland there.

The sound of vuvuzelas drowned out by the cracking of bullwhips

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:46 (fifteen years ago)

nice to see the Dutch back in their Euro2000/70s-style kit. so tempted to buy the polo shirt.

http://www.soccerbox.com/images/shop/product_images/13287/regular_2010hollandpoloshirt.jpg

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:50 (fifteen years ago)

Didn't Holland try an (almost) all-white selection policy four years ago?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 11:50 (fifteen years ago)

Possibly not officially.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 11:51 (fifteen years ago)

they had the white shorts and pale blue socks last time, and a less lurid oranj. RONG.

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 14 June 2010 11:52 (fifteen years ago)

I think Ismael means pigmentation.

Pete W, Monday, 14 June 2010 11:58 (fifteen years ago)

maybe joe cole can't play cuz the vuvuzelas set off his acute melissophobia

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 June 2010 12:13 (fifteen years ago)

Holland are playing a bit like Arsenal, lots of fluent attacking play and then overelaborating in front of goal.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

Good game, this

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

SHEEPISH GRIN, THERE

amuse-douche (haitch), Monday, 14 June 2010 12:31 (fifteen years ago)

how humourless is burley 'it's not a moment to smile, I'd suggest'

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 12:31 (fifteen years ago)

loooooooool

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 12:32 (fifteen years ago)

burley is a dick, didnt he even notice that the defenders headed it off his own player and didnt head it straight in? that's why he smiled, he couldn't believe it.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 14 June 2010 12:34 (fifteen years ago)

if Robert Green was there, he wouldnt let that happen

Zeno, Monday, 14 June 2010 12:36 (fifteen years ago)

burley finally sees the deflection

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 14 June 2010 12:37 (fifteen years ago)

Judging by the 3.5" Current Economic Climate Staff Room TV it seemed that the fuzzy indistinct white shapes were doing better than the fuzzy, indistinct orange shapes in the first half.

MPx4A, Monday, 14 June 2010 12:39 (fifteen years ago)

Gronkjaer is on! Yay!

Pete W, Monday, 14 June 2010 12:41 (fifteen years ago)

Players finishing after the offside whistle doesn't need cracking down on imo

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 12:48 (fifteen years ago)

Ze lijken echt moe. En Gio kan Rommedahl idd niet houden, al 2 gevaarlijke momenten daardoor.

― Thijs, Monday, 14 June 2010 13:23 (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

OLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

― clismo, Monday, 14 June 2010 13:31 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

De Bal IS Rond. Phew.

― Thijs, Monday, 14 June 2010 13:32 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

Komt ie dannnnnnn...het WK topic.

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 June 2010 12:48 (fifteen years ago)

aaargh, is there a stream on the internet that doesn't stop/skip

♹♹ (dyao), Monday, 14 June 2010 12:50 (fifteen years ago)

TV companies loving these super-slo-mo HD replays.

Pete W, Monday, 14 June 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3zhxjClLw1qzpwi0o1_500.png

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

this looks way better w/ elia bringing 'natural width', vdv perhaps creates a surfeit of playmakers

kuyt needs to get tae fuck tho, worse than heskey

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 June 2010 13:02 (fifteen years ago)

Shtick a fork in it

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 13:10 (fifteen years ago)

Well in there, big Emile

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 13:10 (fifteen years ago)

typically lovely pass from Sneijder

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 13:11 (fifteen years ago)

some quality ball watching from kjaer there

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 13:12 (fifteen years ago)

just got off the phone with mom, asked her if she was watching the world cup, she said no cause the vulvuzeela's reminded her too much of mosquitos and the sound was making her too anxious

♹♹ (dyao), Monday, 14 June 2010 13:13 (fifteen years ago)

Van Persie, Man of the Match? Surely not.

Number None, Monday, 14 June 2010 13:14 (fifteen years ago)

ITV "Phone in and tell us your favourite Premier League Player of the Match" Award

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 13:15 (fifteen years ago)

they looked a lot more threatening with elia on. get robben on the other flank and that would multiply of course.

amuse-douche (haitch), Monday, 14 June 2010 13:21 (fifteen years ago)

some of the kids are nearly as tall as this Cameroon #11

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 14 June 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

couple of big lads in there too (esp. Matip, blimey) to balance things out nicely.

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 14 June 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)

jean ii makoun's v strong for his size tho, awesome name too

cameroon have been pretty thuggish in recent acn's/2008 olympics tbh

andrey bikey assaulting medic, the whole team kicking the shit outta brazil u23s

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 June 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

god, dubs of dubs of vhs from the 80s on youtube look better than this espn3.com streaming shit. i could probably follow the matches more closely listening to a transistor radio in an ice fishing hut.

andrew m., Monday, 14 June 2010 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

I've found footyfire.com to have pretty good streams tbh

♹♹ (dyao), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

BBC representation of Japan imaginative as ever
http://static.bbc.co.uk/homepage/ic/mediazone/strap/www/image/p008c5l0_640_215.jpg

show me your buccina (ken c), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

the whole team kicking the shit outta brazil u23s

need to know more about this

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)

Adebayor's phone went off while he was talking about the Cameroon team on BBC1.

James Mitchell, Monday, 14 June 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)

I bet he took the call as well

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

Important transfer business to conduct, obviously.

James Mitchell, Monday, 14 June 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

Advising Fabregas imo

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

if u come round mine for a shandy I don't play the MERZBOX at full blast for the duration

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

stfu Lawro

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

yeah lawro's pretty grumpy for some reason

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

Always is, ungrateful bastid

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

This is the way Lawrenson always is for matches between smaller teams. Bitching constantly.

Number None, Monday, 14 June 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

Well when Mark Bright starts to outrank you that would make anyone bitchy

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:34 (fifteen years ago)

LOL @ ancient Channel 4 "100 Greatest World Cup Moments" prog. last night, complete with jokes about Scottish goalkeepers. Ah, the good old days.

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

Oirish Goalies- A+ all time imo

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

Packy, Jennings, Shay

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

GET IN

A prog venn diagram for you to think about (Matt #2), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

HONDA!

STOP FUCKING WHINGEING BBC THIS IS NOT A BAD GAME.

TURN THE FUCKING BEES DOWN (tomofthenest), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

That Honda looks like a good runner. Certainly got a good engine.

James Mitchell, Monday, 14 June 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

Honda Prelude To Insanity

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

good package

show me your buccina (ken c), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

Everything he makes goes into everything he makes.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

just walking thru the city, 2 sell some shares

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 June 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

now then, japan 1-0 up, had japan to win at 3/1, do I now hedge the bet and take the money or GAMBLE?

show me your buccina (ken c), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe Lawrenson will stop trying to be pithy now.
o god "they're not known for great displays of emotion", may have to turn the sound down

A prog venn diagram for you to think about (Matt #2), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

Just what Cameroon deserve for leaving the best defensive midfielder in the PL on the bench.

James Mitchell, Monday, 14 June 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

and the best gk in africa

dunno if their injured or w/e

paul le guen tho

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 June 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

*they're*

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 June 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

not having jack wilshere in the squad was their downfall tbh

show me your buccina (ken c), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

there's a whole lotta ekotto to go in this yet (ps i'm not watching, so if he's not 'playing' pls disregard.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

Matsui is getting a good reception from the fans.

James Mitchell, Monday, 14 June 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

if u come round mine for a shandy I don't play the MERZBOX at full blast for the duration

― cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 14:28 (21 minutes ago) Bookmark

But if I came round your house I wouldn't dream of telling you what you couldn't play.

Also I wd be cool with the Merzbox tbh

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

Just what Cameroon deserve for leaving the best defensive midfielder in the PL on the bench.

Who is that again?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

my playing MERZBOX would adversely affect the quality of your repartee tho so I wouldn't even

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

ssssssssssssssssssssssong xp

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 June 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

Campaign to Rehabilitate Rob Green can gtf tbh

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)

As can Carra

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)

ken did you decide to hedge it in the end? I've got Japan at 100/30 and have left it... but will probs end up regretting it.

TURN THE FUCKING BEES DOWN (tomofthenest), Monday, 14 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

Turning into a game, this

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

wtf @ no song obv.

lawro can get tae fuck

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)

Japan have done OK. There's no doubt they set out for a 0-0, but they've managed to nick a goal.

Just gonna facepalm myself into a coma brb

MPx4A, Monday, 14 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

cameroon are crap lol

not been impressed by any of the african nations yet; s.africa maybe the best of a bad bunch? wasn't too impressed by ghana

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

eto'o rw w/ no other good cf is the strangest decision in years

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

^^^^

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

bugging me how so far how there's not been a game where both teams score but one still wins. Euro 8 started similarly.

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 14 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

Cote D'Ivoire will kick into gear at some stage I reckon, but SA home advantage might be worth something

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

ken did you decide to hedge it in the end? I've got Japan at 100/30 and have left it... but will probs end up regretting it.
― TURN THE FUCKING BEES DOWN (tomofthenest), Monday, June 14, 2010 3:05 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i was a pussy and put some back the other way, so if japan wins I get £4.50 if not I get 50p.. probably wasn't worth the effort but I like the feeling of a win win win situation!

show me your buccina (ken c), Monday, 14 June 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

ugh no way win-win is the worst

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 14 June 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

it's okay i just put £500 on cameroon winning 3-1

show me your buccina (ken c), Monday, 14 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

the same geremi who mourinho said was finished in 2007

desparate stuff

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

can u get a vuvuzela ringtone

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

do you have an iphone? i made an app!!

show me your buccina (ken c), Monday, 14 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

ha! vuvuzela 2010?!

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

for real?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 14 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.vuvuzela.fm/

EZ Snappin, Monday, 14 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

ahaha

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Monday, 14 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

Not the result I would have predicted.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Monday, 14 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

Adebayor in talking up van Injury lols.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

Right, so I've taped both today's games when I was at work - do I need to watch them?

ailsa, Monday, 14 June 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

Wouldn't bother with the Holland-Denmark games, the highlights alone should be enough.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

just go to a local park football pitch and put vuvuzela.fm on your headphone

show me your buccina (ken c), Monday, 14 June 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

God, commentary is annoying. Fuck's sake "he looks like he's walking through the city to sell some shares" (am watching Japan v Cameroon by fast forwarding through bits and pieces), will do same for Ned-Den in a bit. This games on when I'm at work thing is going to be annoying, am too open-plan to even watch surreptitiously.

ailsa, Monday, 14 June 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)

Japan-Cameroon turned into a pretty good game. Regardless of quality, any close match where the teams are trying hard right up to the end is going to entertaining. Snide commentating never improves it though.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)

Cameroon should have brought on Rigobert and Alex Song to win the game as two Songs make a right.

James Mitchell, Monday, 14 June 2010 16:42 (fifteen years ago)

Loved the last 5 minutes of Japan-Cameroon, just booting the crap out of the ball praying for goals...the borderline hysteria of it was awesome. :D

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 14 June 2010 16:55 (fifteen years ago)

So apparently German players have been trialling the Jalubani in league games since January? That's fucking unfair if true.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 17:00 (fifteen years ago)

MLS has been using it all season as well, though only 4 MLSers are in the USA squad.

dan m, Monday, 14 June 2010 17:01 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/06/the-best-picture-to-come-from-the-world-cup-with-important-update/58115/

so disappointed this wasn't real

iatee, Monday, 14 June 2010 17:03 (fifteen years ago)

Not unfair if everyone else had the same opportunity and didn't take it.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 14 June 2010 17:04 (fifteen years ago)

Well no because other leagues would be tied into contracts with other manufacturers etc. They can't just suddenly decide to use an Adidas ball even if it is offered to them.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 17:10 (fifteen years ago)

would the FA be allowed though? (for their training sessions etc.)

show me your buccina (ken c), Monday, 14 June 2010 17:12 (fifteen years ago)

it's not just german players in the bundesliga

mizzell, Monday, 14 June 2010 17:19 (fifteen years ago)

Mark Lawrenson's inability to remember anyone's name and keep referring to players as "the lad up front" etc is pissing me off something chronic now.

ailsa, Monday, 14 June 2010 17:19 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/video/2010/jun/14/world-cup-2010-england-usa-brick

mizzell, Monday, 14 June 2010 17:22 (fifteen years ago)

will there be vuvuzelas in the prem next year

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)

or at the back of the bus

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 14 June 2010 17:34 (fifteen years ago)

or at a seafood buffet

(full full sailor)

show me your buccina (ken c), Monday, 14 June 2010 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

No Gattuso :(

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

Italy

* 01 Buffon
* 03 Criscito
* 04 Chiellini
* 05 Cannavaro Captain
* 19 Zambrotta
* 06 De Rossi
* 07 Pepe
* 15 Marchisio
* 22 Montolivo
* 09 Iaquinta
* 11 Gilardino

Paraguay

* 01 Villar Captain
* 03 Morel Rodriguez
* 14 Da Silva
* 17 Torres
* 21 Alcaraz
* 06 Caceres
* 13 Vera
* 15 Caceres
* 16 Riveros Nunez
* 18 Valdez
* 19 Barrios

no Di Natale? Also, anyone actually seen Marchisio?

Still, I have a feeling this could be a cracking match. Hopefully not jinxing it right here.

― i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:25 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Right here in the wrong thread?

― That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:26 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

oops yeah should remove bookmark for future ctrl+f laziness.

― i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:28 (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

of course no gattuso, the guy hasn't had a good game in about two seasons apparently.

i've also never heard much said about pepe so... at least it isn't camorensi

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

But this is a World Cup and Paraguay are v. kickable

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

nasty kick already :)

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

who would have thought ryan shawcross would end up looking the major influence on this tournament?

<3 that de rossi has taken over the beardy role. if only they had the next superpippo, i could support this team.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

Other than Paraguay and Argentina, do any other international sides play not in solid colours? I know Scotland did once

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

Come on Paraguay, win it for Cabanas.

dan m, Monday, 14 June 2010 18:35 (fifteen years ago)

Chile, Czech Republic and Croatia spring to mind.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 18:35 (fifteen years ago)

Mexico often mix green+white i think.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

Croatia of course - but aren't chile and the czechs in solid red?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

ha, the czech kit is actually all white atm, my bad.

Chile is currently red w/ lol white bits, sure it has been more of a mixture in the past.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

Should google before I... well, say anything really.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 18:40 (fifteen years ago)

Mexico is basically a green strip though - I'm thinking of how a solid white or sky blue wouldn't be an Argentina strip at all

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 18:40 (fifteen years ago)

Big Mick supports the Vuvuzelas HELL YEAH

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 18:40 (fifteen years ago)

Tommy Smyth on EPSN radio banging on about the Germans using the ball during the last season...

dan m, Monday, 14 June 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

what did mick say abt the vuvus? if they're alright by him they're alright by me

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 18:46 (fifteen years ago)

Pearce wanking on about "there's been some talk that they'll be banned" yet again and Mick says "And why would you want to? It's a lovely carnival atmosphere." heart that dude so much

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

It will be a "lovely carnival atmosphere" for otolaryngologists

Zeno, Monday, 14 June 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

Future 'favourite football chant' threads will be all

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Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

is the altitude affecting professional footballers' decision making or something? the amount of needless wastes of possession in every game so far is heartbreaking

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

see also: world cup 2006

Zeno, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

It's the round ball.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:08 (fifteen years ago)

looooool

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

what i actually mean is loooool

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

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Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

Sweet.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

that ball came a long way. terrible defending, good goal well taken

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

Holy shit

Popture, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

so much for italy's "good defence", has anyone even noticed on bbc that cannavaro stopped being good ages ago. the might of the ireland midfield/attack exposed this defence home and away...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

Hahaha!! Hooray!!!

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

was a good goal, hopefully it makes italy pull their finger out. oh if only they took cassano for a bit of creation (w/ local prossies.)

mccarthy is a+ imo, hope he's gonna do the final.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

they did show some recent footage of their shaky defending in the lead up

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

Actually heard a little cheer for a second there before the reinvigorated flight of the bumblebees.

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

not been listening to this commentary but I enjoyed mccarthy in the argentina game, kept it posi throughout

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

ah right i missed the buildup, just mccarthy seemed to be talking about cannavaro martialling them etc

x-post i do love mccarthy in general

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

"I bless the rains in South Aaaaafricaaaa"

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

Cannavaro should have retired after Real released him ;_; rip big man

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

do they seriously not have another CB who is better (younger at least than 37!) than him?

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

If Santon was fit you could put Chiellini in the middle...

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

dossena could play cb i'm sure...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)

why do they need a new rounder ball every world cup anyway? revenues? bring back the fkn questra or tango

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder if Italy could go out in the first round like France in '02. Can't see them struggling against New Zealand or Slovakia though.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

Dunno why this has only just hit me, but David Pleat is Count Arthur Strong.

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

yeah exactly, i bought a tango for 9 quid in sports direct that i use in the park with mates etc, that design is so cool.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

Hansen and Dixon were saying they thought Cannavaro was past it before the game. Would like to see Italy really go for it now but it'll come to nothing as Paraguay appear to be the Greece it's okay to like.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/11_01/MikeAshleyPA2_228x300.jpg

"Sepp - gimme a call! 75% off this weekend! I'll chuck in some golf umbrellas too!"

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

And wouldn't a slightly heavier ball be better? Polyurethane ball seems totally daft to me. In my limited technical estimation :)

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:23 (fifteen years ago)

But when the Tango made its debut it got exackly the same complaints as this year's model. Do new balls stop being shit once the World Cup's over? Also doesn't any ball still have to be regulation weight?

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

Bit of edge in Barry's voice when he uttered the phrase "the Sven-Goran Eriksson era", there.

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.top-soccer-kit.com/images/MitreMultiplex.jpg

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/KsVJ7.gif

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)

Buffon subbed. Eh?

(Mick McCarthy not rating his replacement based on the warm-up)

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

F*** P****** It has come to the point that even (if he was alive) Michael Jackson would be called a rasist if he had been opose to the vuvuzela...

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

Well he was a white guy tbf

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

Buffon subbed. Eh?

Shellac must have a 9 o'clock show in Cape Town.

BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

lol

dan m, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

Did they really sub Buffon.

I still hate de Rossi, btw.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

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Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

This really is the world cup of shitty goalkeeping.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

big penalty =======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzbzbzbzbzbzbzbzzzzzzzzzz!!!!! there

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

unless it's Nigeria
xpost

Zeno, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

Everybody can keep complaining about the Jabulani but it's still the same ball for everyone.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah but if it means fewer goals that's shitty in itself regardless of who you support.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

Do new balls stop being shit once the World Cup's over?

I think the players just need a couple of weeks to get used to them. I reckon it'd be nice if those couple of weeks didn't always coincide with the first half of the world's biggest football tournament, but that's why I'm just a guy who likes footy rather than a genius administrator I guess.

They probably only affect trajectory a couple of %, but if your aim is always to hit the couple of % of the goal the keeper can't reach, that's probably quite important

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

If the pitches were made of cobblestones that would be the same for everyone too, but it would still be shit.

How many long range shots have we seen on target so far? Five, maybe?

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

As has been mooted upthread I'd imagine unusual atmospheric conditions would have more affect on players' shooting and catching and such, plus the pressure of playing at the World Cup and having yr incompetence exposed to a global audience.

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

Haha the thing about the 06 ball was that seemingly every long range shot went in, except Lampard's. It made for a cracking World Cup.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

And yeah it does still have to be regulation weight, so I also think a lot of this is psychosomatic.

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

I recall a Clint Dempsey shot being on target, however tame.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, there's a permissible weight range. the plastic thing is officially because you can't make a leather ball that doesn't absorb significant water (which affects its weight and the way it bounces/moves in the air).

caek, Monday, 14 June 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

italy much better now...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

If the pitches were made of cobblestones

I think this unfair as that would be starkly against the very nature of the game. Having every team, behemoths and gnats, have to figure out a new ball might conceivably make the tournament more entertaining.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

Really need a physicist to produce a proper report taking into account altitude, chaos, the sphericity of the ball and the amount of air turbulence created by vuvuzelas.

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

watching from the dome of the 107" telescope on the 50th highest point in texas by the way. atmosphere not great.

xp, on it.

caek, Monday, 14 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

Dempsey's comment on the ball/shot/fumble was classic: "they all count the same if they go in".

xpost awesome, caek

dan m, Monday, 14 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

xxpost

I read that as if you were somehow misusing a giant telescope to peer at a match on the other side of the globe

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

telescopes do not work that way

caek, Monday, 14 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

lol

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

Think Italy will push on from this, whereas I'm not convinced Paraguay will.

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

Clarence Seedorf sure does like to laugh, doesn't he?

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 14 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

Not really feeling this tournament at all yet. I've got so much work on that I've missed most of the games completely and nothing much seems to have happened in those that I've seen. Bbbbbbbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

Xxpost lol I read it the same way "waow you can see the game from Texas?!!"

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 14 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

Everybody can keep complaining about the Jabulani but it's still the same ball for everyone.

― If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Monday, June 14, 2010 8:00 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that's why everyone's crap! except the germans, who've been playing with it for a year

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

Good game I thought. I nipped out for a twenty-minute kick-around in the middle of that, came back in absolutely knackered. I was fit last week, this all-day-on-the-couch lark is a killer.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

I'm enjoying the games so far. Except the 4 goal massacre of my homeland

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 14 June 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

italy were a lot better in the second half, at least, after they moved to 442

cozen, Monday, 14 June 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

That was an enjoyable game. Anyone look at Gattuso and start to think he has potential to be a proper lol future manager?

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

Hating this Rafa tactics though: "Hey how about I play a striker as a right winger?" Kuyt lol, Eto'o, Iaquinta, Santa Cruz as he came on, Henry etc.

Podolski being the exception to the rule obv

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

"...and Garth Crooks was there to enjoy it." When is this statement ever true of Garth Crooks?

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 14 June 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

Podolski more of an Inside Forward surely? Not convinced that isn't what the intention was with some of those other decisions too, just executed ineptly HI SWP

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

on the contrary i'd say he enjoys every minute of every day. he seems to be enjoying himself too much if anything! v self satisfied.

x-post

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

Paraguay were really solid. BBC could've said a word about them pre-match. Not good enough.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 June 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4EVatyYd5g&feature=player_embedded

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

shearer "i think they bring a certain colour to the tournament"

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)

do you mean "black" alan??

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)

xxxpost

Yeah I expect the TV coverage to be light and populist rather than full-on fanboy, but the standard this year has been really bad, disrespectful, can't-be-arsed shite for the most part.

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)

"or you just fancy watching my expert analysis again"

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)

I would much rather have Gabriel Clarke and Ned Boulting on this bus. Boulting would get massively drunk. Clarke would cry.

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 14 June 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i agree with noodle actually, someone really needs to have a word with the pundits and make the analysis less dismal/cynical, it's the World Cup. bit of excitement would be nice, these guys have obv been to too many.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

Somebody said upthread there's no intense, analytical O'Neill figure this go round and the lack of balance shows. Enjoy watching Klinsmann and Adebayor, oddly enough, but I don't know what Shearer brings to the table and Lineker doesn't need anybody to encourage him.

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

I like Seedorf but he needs someone who'll argue. Hansen is good when he can be bothered to analyse. Shearer is just so bad, terrible. Has Keown been on at all yet, he is decent and so is Dixon if they're not in lets all have a lol mode.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:45 (fifteen years ago)

I've only seen Dixon on MOTD2 rather than an actual match programme. Delighted by absence of Ian Wright, but aye, need an O'Neill and quite possibly a Strachan.

ailsa, Monday, 14 June 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe this is just down to Shearer and Lineker being a horrible double act, plus all of ITV obviously being STFU.

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)

Seedorf, Dixon and Hansen did start having a nice little conversation about how they were brought up to defend corners earlier on. But the lack of antagonist is troubling.

Not quite so much as on ITV, though - last night they had Keegan, Davids and Vieira, and the conversation very rarely rose above a mumble. Chiles is having to do more or less all the heavy lifting.

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 14 June 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)

Surely somebody must have sat down and spoken to Edgar Davids before they gave him a job entertaining several million TV viewers?

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

Dixon seems okay to me.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

It wouldn't take too much to make the itv coverage watchable - just the guts not to back off immediately things threaten to get difficult or interesting. They need a smaller studio too, they look like they're in an unoccupied office building

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

Keegan is so desperate he distracts me from the others and makes me unfair. It's like he's employed to represent the views of the dude in the pub who's been drinking all day and doesn't know fuck all about football.

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

Are Sky showing any of it? Actually, I hope not, an irate jamie redknapp disgusted by Slovakia-New Zealand would be horrible

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 June 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

No

caek, Monday, 14 June 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

No they aren't.

I was immensely taken by the channel formerly known as UKTV G2 (now known as Dave) doing some coverage last time out, featuring batshit analysis from Ron Atkinson, Brian Blessed, Stephen Fry, Barry Fry and Harvey from So Solid Crew, amongst others. Shame they aren't still doing that.

ailsa, Monday, 14 June 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

espn pundits are somewhat annoying but too earnest to put it over the top

dan m, Monday, 14 June 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

except for Lalas who is just a loudmouth

dan m, Monday, 14 June 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

Lalas = mute button.

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 14 June 2010 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

I think I wd pay money for RTE coverage on Sky at this point in proceedings.

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

friend has his laptop plugged into his tv with rte streaming and changes to the av channel with that on it at half time, there's a legal stream of rte about somewhere for anyone in europe.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 14 June 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

considered that but prefer watching on the big telly

That was Verbeek, that was (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2010 21:08 (fifteen years ago)

ahahaha goddamn

http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/2329/englande.jpg

dan m, Monday, 14 June 2010 21:08 (fifteen years ago)

Seedorf is ok yeah -- when asked what he wanted to see he just said "Everything". Hansen came up with "Even Slovakia - New Zealand?" ffs..

Can imagine Brazil and Spain's matches needing some Vuvuzela to drown out the studio 'banter'.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 June 2010 21:22 (fifteen years ago)

http://twitter.com/MrsStephenFry/status/16173701775

i'm gonna go and talk to some food about this (Ned Trifle II), Monday, 14 June 2010 21:22 (fifteen years ago)

Lalas = mute button.

OTM

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Monday, 14 June 2010 21:29 (fifteen years ago)

It's worse that he sort of looks & sounds like Peter Krause. It makes me nostalgic for Sports Night.

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 14 June 2010 21:31 (fifteen years ago)

Except he's a hot headed dick who talks before he thinks.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Monday, 14 June 2010 21:33 (fifteen years ago)

EXACTLY. Fantasy: ruined.

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 14 June 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

Seedorf, Dixon and Hansen did start having a nice little conversation about how they were brought up to defend corners earlier on.

that was good, and it was all down to seedorf actually seeming interested in his fellow commentators' actual experience - unfortunately dixon didn't really answer him and they swiftly moved on

i thought italy/paraguay was a pretty fun match!

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 14 June 2010 23:30 (fifteen years ago)

It makes me nostalgic for Sports Night.

Does Sports Night have a thread? Man, that was a good show. I still can't bring myself to watch the last episode b/c I don't want it to be over.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 14 June 2010 23:40 (fifteen years ago)

One of my alltime favorite tv shows...no question.

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 14 June 2010 23:44 (fifteen years ago)

You're wearing my shirt, Gordon.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 00:12 (fifteen years ago)

"CNBC, MSNBC..."
"M-O-U-S-E... "

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 00:24 (fifteen years ago)

238 feet 6 inches in the pole vault. That'd be record, right?

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 00:26 (fifteen years ago)

Sportsnight - Steve Rider's finest 50 minutes.

People have perhaps always complained about punditry but I think yes, it has actually declined. There are more pundits than ever, doing less than ever. Bar Dixon on MotD2 there's very little analysis - which I think is what Jimmy Hill was promoting back when 'the panel' was an exotic concept c.1974. We've gone backwards. We're not creative enough, we're not positive enough.

In the past I've always been happy for people to rate BBC over ITV, have often joined in, but this time I wonder if ITV is the better spectacle. I don't like Chiles that much but he's bringing a kind of energy, and Matt Smith is Matt Smith as we learned c.2001-2. Don't really have a problem with legend Keegan either.

BBC should bring Crooksy into the studio, as well as Hill, O'Neill ... Kevin McCarra ... Gordon Brown.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 01:21 (fifteen years ago)

One of your networks ought to do what espn does and hire someone from across the pond -- we've got McManamanamanaman, why not get Reyna or Tab Ramos or... WYNALDA. He'd be perfect for y'all, honestly.

dan m, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 01:41 (fifteen years ago)

http://i46.tinypic.com/2i9m82p.jpg

156, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 02:25 (fifteen years ago)

God I love those Japanese fans.
In other news: we would happily donate Alexei Lalas across the pond for across the pond commentary.

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 02:36 (fifteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/CGbjS.png

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 07:15 (fifteen years ago)

Excellent work.

Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 07:16 (fifteen years ago)

"i thought italy/paraguay was a pretty fun match!"

not if you're Italian :)
I think this is the most mediocre national team we had since probably 1986.

Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 07:34 (fifteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/CGbjS.png

max, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 07:55 (fifteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/CGbjS.png

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 07:58 (fifteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/CGbjS.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/CGbjS.png

max, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 08:02 (fifteen years ago)

This has probably been mentioned before but I've been listening to the Radio 5 Live commentary which seems to have less vuvuzela sound on it. tbh thought (despite what I said earlier) i'm pretty much used to it by now. Someone on a bbc story about it said that it doesn't sound the same in the stadium, there's much more ebb and flow to it. I wonder what the players hear?

i'm gonna go and talk to some food about this (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 08:09 (fifteen years ago)

They hear it far too much. Gourcuff said in an interview that they were really disturbing and that he couldn't hear his teammates talking to him on hte field. (I'm kind of surprised his teammates actually do talk to him on the field but that's another problem). Also, wasn't there a game where one of the players played on after the whistle had been blown, like he didn't hear it (drowned out by vuvuzelas?).

Jibe, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 08:38 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah I heard Toulahan wouldn't even pass to Gourcuff, let alone talk to him.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 08:44 (fifteen years ago)

When is someone going to attach a vuvuzela to a carbon dioxide fire extinguisher?

Fat Dog Franklin (snoball), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 08:49 (fifteen years ago)

Gourcuff's problems lie more with the players upfront. He gets on very well with Toulalan.

Jibe, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 08:50 (fifteen years ago)

yeah Toulalan is the only one who speaks to the guy, apparently

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 08:59 (fifteen years ago)

Gourcuff was fucking rubbish in the opening game

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:01 (fifteen years ago)

yeah the guy's been off form for 6 months now - i think he will be dropped shortly

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:11 (fifteen years ago)

Domenech strikes again

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:12 (fifteen years ago)

Apparently, Domenech might drop Gourcuff, yet keep Ribéry and Anelka in which is just bullshit as they were as rubbish if not worst than Gourcuff in the opening game.

Jibe, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:16 (fifteen years ago)

Ribery probably was worse, true

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:19 (fifteen years ago)

I've been a bit disappointed with most of the teams I've seen so far but then given we've got Brazil, Portugal, Spain and Cote D'Ivoire to come in the next couple of days that could well change.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:20 (fifteen years ago)

maybe he could actually tell Ribery some tactics that compliment his wideman abilities this time? You know, if Mystic Meg tells him to.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:23 (fifteen years ago)

I think this is the most mediocre national team we had since probably 1986.

no, i can definitely sympathize, and it was painful to see flashes of greatness there in an amongst everything else. still there was a scrappiness and tenacity to both teams that was fun to watch.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:24 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe he could start with the French player who is in the form of his life and possibly better than anyone else in the squad right now.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:25 (fifteen years ago)

Gourcuff said in an interview that they were really disturbing and that he couldn't hear his teammates talking to him on hte field. (I'm kind of surprised his teammates actually do talk to him on the field but that's another problem).

haha

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:25 (fifteen years ago)

Surely Domenech has had his squad working on their ESP skills to counteract the vuvu probs.

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:27 (fifteen years ago)

has anyone explained the Abidal at centre half thing yet?

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:28 (fifteen years ago)

teammates silently opening and closing their mouths just to wind Gourcuff up.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:29 (fifteen years ago)

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01065/DAS-BOOT-SPLASH_1065177a.jpg

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:29 (fifteen years ago)

tbh Ribéry won't listen. He's a bit high on himself and thinks he can bring the World Cup to France on his own, so he dribbles himself in the middle of 3 Uruguayan players, loses the ball and then does the exact same thing a few minutes later. Without ever having looked up to see if he could pass it to someone. Add to that the fact that our center forward likes playing in midfield so we have no one in the box and you have yourself a great team for scoreless draws (on good days) and scoreless defeats (rest of the time).
And Malouda is being kept off even though he is the one player who can make a difference, not Ribéry.

Jibe, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:29 (fifteen years ago)

Abidal plays for Barcelona he must be good. And hey at least he's not Boumsong.

Surely Mexes is better though?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:30 (fifteen years ago)

The Kaiser OTM though.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:30 (fifteen years ago)

also http://apina.nwps.ws/full/30957.gif

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:30 (fifteen years ago)

has anyone explained the Abidal at centre half thing yet?

― i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:28

that's where he prefers to play, evra is better at lb and gallas isn't as fast these days so wd be even more exposed w/ squillaci etc

imho's he kinda ordinary there tho, but it's not nearly as obtuse as playing gignac rw and ribery cf

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:31 (fifteen years ago)

That Pepe guy looks skilful but he's a massive petulant strop waiting to happen.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:32 (fifteen years ago)

xxp isn't there contact there?

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:32 (fifteen years ago)

Mexes played for France in our shameful 3-1 loss to Austria and he fucked up. Never to be seen again. Abidal at centre half is because there are other leftbacks (Evra for ex) and no one at centre half (and Abidal has played there a long time back iirc?).

Jibe, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:33 (fifteen years ago)

Media bloopers seem to be dominating the early stages of the 2010 World Cup. First ITV HD1 viewers missed England’s opening goal against the USA on Saturday night. And yesterday afternoon Graeme Souness caused Irish viewers to choke on their Sunday lunch with his “rape” comment.

Last night in Germany though Katrin Muller-Hohenstein produced the worst faux-pas so far which has caused furore in Deutschland thanks to a completely unnecessary remark about the Nazi party.

At half-time of Germany’s 4-0 thrashing of Australia, Muller-Hohenstein picked over the opening goals with former German goalkeeper Oliver Kahn on the ZDF channel.

After seeing Miroslav Klose leap above Mark Schwarzer to reach Phillip Lahm’s cross and head in the second, Muller-Hohenstein described it as “innerer Reichsparteitag” which in English translates to “inner Nazi Party.”

This phrase has caused much consternation in Germany with the outrage pouring in even as the second half was under way.

“Innerer Reichsparteitag” translates roughly into “I feel as though I had just been to a Nuremberg party gathering” - the massive Nazi party gatherings in Nuremberg as “documented” by Leni Riefenstahl.

As improbable as it may seem, the statement is testimony to an existent sense of irony within the German populace. It is very not politically correct to say that, but this is a regularly used colloquialism to express joy in a “witty” way.

If you’ve enjoyed something thoroughly, you say “it was an ‘innerer Reichsparteitag’ to me.” It is a non-pc, funny way of expressing happiness. It is not something that you should say on TV, but it certainly does not mean that Mrs Muller-Hohenstein has any sympathies for the Nazi party.

Like the BBC, ZDF is funded by a television license which has caused many to complain and the fact Miroslav Klose is of Polish descent has also added to the furore around the gaffe.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:33 (fifteen years ago)

Squallici or however you spell it?

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:33 (fifteen years ago)

He's our backup (Squillaci) in case old man Gallas gets hurt, which is bound to happen?

Jibe, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:36 (fifteen years ago)

lol at that italy gif - was anything given?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:37 (fifteen years ago)

And yesterday afternoon Graeme Souness caused Irish viewers to choke on their Sunday lunch with his “rape” comment.

Uh, what?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:39 (fifteen years ago)

the rossi gif is a con, the bottom of the frame is cut off; there was clearly contact on the original broadcast

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:39 (fifteen years ago)

So it appears France and Argentina have been playing with the new ball for months as well. So basically it's incompetence on the FA's part, right?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:39 (fifteen years ago)

I thought it was a money thing?

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:40 (fifteen years ago)

Premiership too poor?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:41 (fifteen years ago)

too prudent? probably deemed not worth breaking the nike contract

Germany centre back Per Mertesacker described it as ‘like a small cannonball’, while his team-mate Marcell Jansen added: ‘It seems to have been made more with strikers in mind than defenders or keepers, because it is so crazy and unpredictable.

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:42 (fifteen years ago)

"still there was a scrappiness and tenacity to both teams that was fun to watch"

Paraguay played a good match, and actually at least Italians tried hard: but there are very few quality players and seeing Camoranesi trying to be the playmaker was sort of embarrassing.

some xp - Pepe is a strop and is not even very good.

Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:42 (fifteen years ago)

how did Iaquinta make the team over Di Natale... who can actually play on wider as well as being ridiculously more talented than him?

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:45 (fifteen years ago)

And yesterday afternoon Graeme Souness caused Irish viewers to choke on their Sunday lunch with his “rape” comment.


basically the pardew thing again, not too bothered over here about it tbh. billo apologised, and sure isn't he the nation's pr guru himself.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:46 (fifteen years ago)

the rossi gif is a con, the bottom of the frame is cut off; there was clearly contact on the original broadcast

Mmmm...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EH1amSBpBQ

i'm gonna go and talk to some food about this (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:48 (fifteen years ago)

i have something to admit: whenever i see camaronesi, i think of the guy who yells out the score at darts tournaments.. 100.. 120... "camaro-NAY-SEE!!!"

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:49 (fifteen years ago)

"how did Iaquinta make the team over Di Natale"

Spot on: also, why Miccoli is not at the World Cup?
I understand Lippi's ratio ("I don't want players who can create ego problems etc") but frankly leaving at home guys like Balotelli and even Cassano is crazy.

Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:50 (fifteen years ago)

looks clear to me, studs on the heel

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:50 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah Italy looked a lot better once Di Natale came on. Cameronesi as well, even if he is a cock.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:54 (fifteen years ago)

I still don't see the defender going close but then I also don't care that much.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:56 (fifteen years ago)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EcBpvUhPBeU/SXdA8LJ8S-I/AAAAAAAAAIc/BZgckmBuEpc/s400/zakumi2.bmp

zakumi is 16 tomorrow btw

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:57 (fifteen years ago)

Cannavaro has been around so long, it's like in the 14th century, the average height was 5ft 3in and he was a giant then, now he looks like a midget.

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:57 (fifteen years ago)

yeah not sure I care that much either, just seems the alternative is that it's the most bizarrely inexplicable dive in the history of dives
xp

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 09:59 (fifteen years ago)

Watch football much?

i'm gonna go and talk to some food about this (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:01 (fifteen years ago)

Definitely catches his achilles with his studs

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:02 (fifteen years ago)

w/e xp

glad to see drogba in

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:05 (fifteen years ago)

Mick was pretty adamant that the defender cynically clipped him at the time, I think

MPx4A, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:05 (fifteen years ago)

Can still get Drogba at 40/1 for top scorer (and Klose at 16/1 looks good value)

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:21 (fifteen years ago)

Bild's "10 reasons Germany will be World Champions"

http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/joewesthead/Y1pyXk8m6sUNCiGZJbk6IKDdwrzLydNlt4tR3kKtmWRDvWK6YJ8vgs0aWY1g/bild.jpeg

10 Reasons We'll Be World Champions

1. We have young heroes again!
Lena's lead the way, now the youngest national team (average age 25.6 years) in 76 years follows suit!

2. We have the Super Jogi!
National coach Jogi Löw has built up form-shy stars (e.g. Klose) and then attaches himself to youth. Jürgen Klinsmann: "We will be world champions, because Jogi Löw has the required calm demeanour."

3. We're performing football magic!
Özil, Poldi, Klose & Schweini are having great fun. Jens Lehmann: "We're working ourselves into a frenzy".

4. We have the others running scared!
England's Sun writes: "Germany set the World Cup on fire and taught us a lesson in football. They showed us how the game should be played."

5. We have the best fans in the world.
You sing instead of blow! Black-red-gold mania in every German city. ZDF expert Oliver Kahn: "The atmosphere has made the leap from home. The team feels it in South Africa."

6. It's Müller time!
Gerd Müller shot us to victory in 1974. Now Thomas Müller is banging them in. Same club (FC Bayern), same shirt number (13).

7. We run and fight until we fall dead.
The boys have enough steam for 7 victories. Then we're world champions.

8. We're just the best. (Editor's note: I think the writer starting struggling here...)
Biggest win of the tournament and all of them dream goals. Holland star van Bommel: "Germany are now World Cup favourites". Gerd Müller: "Come the end, we'll have the best team".

9. We have 11 friends on the pitch.
Sounds old fashioned, but it still holds true and is important. Franz Beckenbauer: "This team has great spirit".

10. It's simply our turn again!
'54, '74, '90, 2010! And then we'll all join in together...

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:23 (fifteen years ago)

It's almost a thesis

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:27 (fifteen years ago)

Apparently Germans are not superstitious.

Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:27 (fifteen years ago)

Wait a minute, I thought it was scientifically proven that England/Scotland/Ireland had the best fans in the world?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:27 (fifteen years ago)

^ England?!?!?!? Ha ha

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:30 (fifteen years ago)

yeah cos none of them are dirty foreigners. except the scottish and irish.

i once saw chippy vela has a good game, honest... (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:30 (fifteen years ago)

Lena's lead the way

Can't argue with this tbf

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:30 (fifteen years ago)

also, lol at the Sun finally helping someone's chances

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:31 (fifteen years ago)

irish best fans in the world without a doubt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjA6WT4YmIM&feature=related

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:34 (fifteen years ago)

(well, i dunno what message i'm sending here because really for €500k pa he had it coming, the chancer. but nonetheless)

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:34 (fifteen years ago)

Apparently Germans are not superstitious.

― Marco Damiani, mardi 15 juin 2010 12:27 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol. this obliviousness = typisch Deutsch

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:41 (fifteen years ago)

anyone liveblogging NZL-SVK for us here?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:48 (fifteen years ago)

What's the league equivalent? Bournemouth vs Stockport County?

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:52 (fifteen years ago)

They're just happy to be here.</bbc>

Beware, I Hongro! (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:53 (fifteen years ago)

but personally we'd rather be on the golf course </bbc>

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:55 (fifteen years ago)

hamsiiiiik tho

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:56 (fifteen years ago)

yer man shane smeltz is the one reak attacking threat for the all-whites

just occured to me that a sporting team named the 'all-whites' might not go down so well with south african neutrals

600 grams of chips for men and 300 grams for ladies (haitch), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 11:08 (fifteen years ago)

Fair play to MOTD, Lee Dixon's analysis of NZ-Scotland in '82 just had me chuckling

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 11:21 (fifteen years ago)

So, what do we know about Slovakia?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

yeah good to see motd keeping it posi, I wonder if they've had some feedback about their negativity

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 11:25 (fifteen years ago)

They got some from me last night anyway - I have officially become old

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 11:27 (fifteen years ago)

a few of the New Zealand players needed to get time off work to make it here

sonderborg, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 11:30 (fifteen years ago)

Things I know about Slovakia:
- Skrtel at the back
- Hamsik is the young rising star, captain at 22, doesn't play for Arsenal but might replace Cesc once Sam's balls digest
- LUBO!

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 11:31 (fifteen years ago)

Marco, is this Slovakian midfielder who plays for Napoli any good?

pandemic, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 11:32 (fifteen years ago)

think my work may have blocked iplayer

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 11:32 (fifteen years ago)

kiwis making an OK fist of this so far! better than when they went 4-0 down to spain in the confed cup at least.

slovaks far more composed on the ball when they get it tho

600 grams of chips for men and 300 grams for ladies (haitch), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 11:37 (fifteen years ago)

Must be brilliant for those guys xp - wonder how much time off they booked ("better make it six weeks mate, four for the tourney and two for the celebrations")

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 11:38 (fifteen years ago)

NZ Number 7 bears an uncanny resemblance to John Malkovich

flanimal collective (Upt0eleven), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 11:49 (fifteen years ago)

quite common, actually

http://1000filma.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/being_john_malkovich_poster.jpg

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 11:49 (fifteen years ago)

I saw Weiss and Stoch playing in the FA Youth Cup final in 2008. Both very small, clever and fast. Shame Stoch is injured, cos be good to see them in tandem.

Pete W, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 11:53 (fifteen years ago)

ok, can someone in the know fill me in on this stuff-

Germany's victory on Sunday for example, was achieved by goals from Klose and Podolski (both Polish) and Cacau (Brazilian), while Marko Marin (Bosnian) waited on the bench. Not to mention Mesut Ozil (of Turkish origin), Jerome Boateng (of Ghanian parentage), Mario Gomez (eligible for Spain), Dennis Aogo (only chose Germany over Nigeria in January) and Serdar Tasci (from a Turkish family).

I'm assuming that Klose, Podolski and Cacau are legit. other nationalities, as it states that straight up, but the constant repetition of the others as some sort of foreigner is really beginning to strike me as something pretty fucking hateful- aren't they all german by birth or part-german parentage?

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 11:54 (fifteen years ago)

"eligible for Spain" could mean "has a Spanish granny" or "studied in Spain for a few years".
Ozil, for example, was born in Germany to Turkish parents - so he's German.

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 11:59 (fifteen years ago)

I think Germans do regard second generation as foreigners if they both have non-german parents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nationality_law

Pete W, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 11:59 (fifteen years ago)

So far as I know, but German nationality is a bit more exclusive than ours. You don't get it just by virtue of birth (or at least you didn't five or ten years ago) so there are/were thousands of people of e.g. Turkish origin who might never have been out of Germany but aren't actually German nationals.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:00 (fifteen years ago)

Boateng has a German mother and a Ghanaian father.

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:01 (fifteen years ago)

xp to Pete & Ismael not if they're a decent striker, obviously. But fair enough.

Onimo- that's exactly what I was getting at. I know that the 'Plastic Paddy' generation were lols and all that, but this kind of snide remark is really kind of troubling for some reason.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:01 (fifteen years ago)

Where did that quote come from btw?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:02 (fifteen years ago)

F365 mediawatch, but it's fairly common ground around the place atm

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:03 (fifteen years ago)

maybe worth pointing out how much more 'diverse' the German team is now compared to 20 or even 10 years ago - reflecting the country, quite interesting...or maybe it's just 'bah, half of them aren't even German, cheating foreigns' yeah.

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:05 (fifteen years ago)

I assume FIFA rules for team elegibility are not identical with national immigration policies..

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:07 (fifteen years ago)

I can play for 3 countries at this World Cup but can only live in one of them.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:10 (fifteen years ago)

Cuts both ways too - Turkey usually have a few players who are actually from Germany. And don't Germany have a couple of English lads too?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:11 (fifteen years ago)

Michael Owen (eligible for Wales)
John Barnes (Jamaican)
Terry Butcher (Singaporean)
Owen Hargreaves (German & Canadian)
Luther Blissett (Jamaican)
Wayne Rooney (of Irish parentage)
etc

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:12 (fifteen years ago)

Stumbled across an unusual detail in Wiki article while researching Podolski's extraction

Place of birth Wakefield, Poland[1]

MPx4A, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, always thought Terry Butcher seemed a bit out-of-place

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

Saying someone like Ozil - who has never lived anywhere but Germany afaik - is anything but German is pretty hard for me to understand.

I actually *do* feel uncomfortable about someone like Cacao, who moved there (because signed) at 19 - sure he's 'German' in some sense, and Almunia is 'English' in some sense - but that's not to me what international sport is about?

Is that inherently racist?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:16 (fifteen years ago)

If the eligibility criteria can be exploited and someone wishes to exploit it then fair enough. I had no problem with all the "English" guys who played for Scotland (apart from with them being shite, obviously).

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:19 (fifteen years ago)

No more racist than the very concept of international sport xp - i.e. If that's racism, then racism ain't so bad

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:23 (fifteen years ago)

yeah it's so weird, like what did germany ever do to make the idea of them having a racially integrated society seem so risible? really baffling

r|t|c, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:24 (fifteen years ago)

reminds me of regular bickering (usually from Italians or JM Le Pen) re. the French squad not being "French" anyway

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:27 (fifteen years ago)

TravoltadancingwithAustralia.gif plz

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:31 (fifteen years ago)

John Barnes (Jamaican)

We've discussed this before, but he's one player who had no connection whatsoever with the country he ended up playing for

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:34 (fifteen years ago)

Barnes:

I actually *do* feel uncomfortable about someone like Cacao, who moved there (because signed) at 19 - sure he's 'German' in some sense, and Almunia is 'English' in some sense - but that's not to me what international sport is about?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:36 (fifteen years ago)

Dammit I dunno why I really want NZ to draw. Hope they can score.

Jibe, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:38 (fifteen years ago)

Missed the goal - any good?

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:38 (fifteen years ago)

Vittek!

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:38 (fifteen years ago)

Cross in, header from the penalty point. Might be offside from the one slomo replay they just put on with the offside marker.

Jibe, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:39 (fifteen years ago)

I get the feeling that this exactly what Slovakia's qualifying campaign looked like

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:46 (fifteen years ago)

Decent goal.

xpostssss:

International career

Having a German father and an English mother,[3] Hunt is able to play for both Germany or England, but stated he would only play internationally for his birth nation.

In October 2006, he appeared for Germany under-21s in a 2007 European Championship qualification playoff against England,[4] in Coventry. On 6 November 2009 was nominated for the Germany national football team for the two friendly games on 14 November 2009 against Chile national football team and on 18 November 2009 against Côte d'Ivoire national football team on 18 November 2009, making his debut in the latter game (the one against Chile had been cancelled).
[edit] Scandal

In November 2006, Hunt was charged by UEFA for serious unsporting behaviour, after complaints of racist remarks in the second leg of the under-21 playoff against England. He was banned for two games.[5] However, he successfully appealed the decision shortly thereafter and the ban was dropped.[6]

Don't suppose the players he abused would enjoy if he picked England. Or would Cacau or Boateng if he was good enough to actually be called up for Germany.

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:49 (fifteen years ago)

(aaron hunt btw. plays for bremen.)

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:49 (fifteen years ago)

Has there been a long shot (except Dempsey's scuff) that hasn't just kept rising until it hits a hornblower in the face?

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

Slovakia look pretty decent, but that might just be because NZ aren't much in the way of opposition.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

Why did Barnes decide to play for England, actually? Just 'footballing reasons'? Did he play for Jamaica schoolboy teams?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:52 (fifteen years ago)

Has there been a long shot (except Dempsey's scuff) that hasn't just kept rising until it hits a hornblower in the face?

Mbia hit the post from 30 yards for Cameroon, couple of others that were straight at the keeper

MPx4A, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:53 (fifteen years ago)

Italy had a couple of shots on target from outside the area last night. Maybe the rain helps.

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:54 (fifteen years ago)

Why did Barnes decide to play for England, actually? Just 'footballing reasons'? Did he play for Jamaica schoolboy teams?

'footballing reasons' = Jamaica are shit at football

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:54 (fifteen years ago)

that's certainly been the theme though

MPx4A, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:54 (fifteen years ago)

Opportunity to play in World Cups one would assume. He must have wanted it pretty badly to endure the sort of abuse he did from the England fans.

Jamaica fielded a fair few English dudes in France 98 so it more than evens out.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:54 (fifteen years ago)

http://i45.tinypic.com/30mn5hj.jpg

truffle-flavoured ilx posts (cozen), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:55 (fifteen years ago)

nice move by slovakia there. could maybe cause lol italy a few problems? (yes, i know that new zealand at their best != italy at their worst.)

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:56 (fifteen years ago)

'footballing reasons' = Jamaica are shit at football

+
Jamaica fielded a fair few English dudes in France 98 so it more than evens out.

basically John Barnes = too good for Jamaica and Robbie Earle = not good enough for England

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:56 (fifteen years ago)

Jamaica fielded a fair few English dudes in France 98 so it more than evens out.

Not really, because those English dudes had Jamaican relatives. I only mention Barnes because it was always good ammunition to use when Englanders started LOLing at Plastic Paddies and guys with Scottish grannies playing for Scotland.

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:57 (fifteen years ago)

... you know, "You wouldn't catch us doing that sort of thing"

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:59 (fifteen years ago)

Not really, because those English dudes had Jamaican relatives.

exactly, & ppl's heritage often informs their sense of identity, so i never see these cases as plastic, in contrast to the Barnes/Cacau situations when it just seems too fluid & meaningless.

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:03 (fifteen years ago)

Speaking of which, it's nearly time to start jeering Deco. Where's my vuvuzela?

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:07 (fifteen years ago)

Barnes was crap for England so it evens out

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:10 (fifteen years ago)

So crap he got 80 odd caps!

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:12 (fifteen years ago)

But then so did Kenny Sansom, so fair comment

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:12 (fifteen years ago)

Once upon a time, the relatively poor quality of John Barnes's England performances was a major talking point in soccer.

Not sure whether it was bigger or smaller than The Gerrard / Lampard Debate, England's Left Side Problem or Michael Owen Will Always Get You Goals.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:15 (fifteen years ago)

Yes!

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:19 (fifteen years ago)

nz ruining my bet :(

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:19 (fifteen years ago)

Goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kiwi, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:19 (fifteen years ago)

also wooooo winston

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:19 (fifteen years ago)

yassss! actually shouted at the screen there :)

truffle-flavoured ilx posts (cozen), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:19 (fifteen years ago)

:-D

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:19 (fifteen years ago)

ffs!!!

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:20 (fifteen years ago)

game of the tournament (i have not seen any of it)?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:20 (fifteen years ago)

The left sided problem debate kind of faded away, didn't it? Did we just collectively agree that a succession of right footed guys cutting inside every single time was preferable to Stewart Downing?

MPx4A, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:21 (fifteen years ago)

man that must be a great feeling

truffle-flavoured ilx posts (cozen), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:21 (fifteen years ago)

The left sided problem debate kind of faded away, didn't it? Did we just collectively agree that a succession of right footed guys cutting inside every single time was preferable to Stewart Downing?

― MPx4A, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:21 (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yes, yes we did. also presume adam johnson will just put a lock on lw after the wc for the next 10 years.

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:22 (fifteen years ago)

let's not get carried away with johnson, he's no fabio paim

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:24 (fifteen years ago)

he is no stewart downing tho

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:25 (fifteen years ago)

Well, we've got to start blooding some fast kids once Played Out Of Position Failed Golden Generation #3 disappears over the horizon

MPx4A, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:25 (fifteen years ago)

Capello pretty much abolished the left-side problem by putting Gerrard there in a free role. In the process it seemed to solve the Gerrard-Lampard problem as well, at least until Barry got injured and it became apparent there was no real plan B. You don't necessarily need a left-winger anyway, especially if you have Ashley Cole in the team, how many international teams are they who still play with two wingers?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:25 (fifteen years ago)

England = Tomorrow's Scotland

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:26 (fifteen years ago)

New Zealand did really well there, congrats kiwi. Shouldn't your boys get into the Asian qualifying pronto now? Need more than one big tourney every 28 years I say

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:26 (fifteen years ago)

You don't necessarily need a left-winger anyway, especially if you have Ashley Cole in the team

OTM, still puzzled as to why Capello bothered moving Gerrard back inside.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:28 (fifteen years ago)

Stevie G, la, he

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:29 (fifteen years ago)

... can play where he liches

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:29 (fifteen years ago)

great cross from afc wimbledon alumni smeltz! also those dutch women who got arrested the other day for wearing dresses advertising some beer brand were apparently in the stadium using tickets 'given' to them by robbie earle, who has now been sacked by itv!

spaghetti, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:29 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, the left sided problem of yore seems comparatively trifling really. Milner seemed a bit virus-knacked on Saturday but wonder if him in the middle with Lampard and Gerrard out on the left would have solved the Barry problem better? Seems the only sensible way you'd give Milner the nod over J Cole

MPx4A, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:30 (fifteen years ago)

Shouldn't your boys get into the Asian qualifying pronto now?

not sure they'd want to - can just play-off with Bahrain or whoever every four years and have a much better chance of WC qualification.

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:31 (fifteen years ago)

My reignition of a years old England positional debate was a crosspost to NZ scoring by the way, I'm not just trying to be the Alan Hansen of message boards

MPx4A, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:31 (fifteen years ago)

Milner is a long-term replacement for both Gerrard and Lampard really, I don't think he's a disciplined tidy holding midfielder. He shouldn't really be in the first team for this WC at all unless there's an emergency.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:32 (fifteen years ago)

also those dutch women who got arrested the other day for wearing dresses advertising some beer brand were apparently in the stadium using tickets 'given' to them by robbie earle, who has now been sacked by itv!

Getouttahere!!!!

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:32 (fifteen years ago)

drogba not starting

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:32 (fifteen years ago)

lolbbie earle

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:33 (fifteen years ago)

The Robster = hero

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:33 (fifteen years ago)

why isn't Pepe starting?

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:34 (fifteen years ago)

vory Coast

* 01 Boubacar Copa
* 04 Toure Captain
* 17 Tiene
* 20 Demel
* 21 Eboue
* 05 Zokora
* 09 Tiote
* 19 Toure Yaya
* 08 Kalou
* 10 Gervinho
* 15 Dindane

Portugal

* 01 Eduardo
* 02 Bruno Alves
* 03 Ferreira
* 06 Carvalho
* 23 Fabio Coentrao
* 08 Mendes
* 10 Danny
* 16 Raul Meireles
* 20 Deco
* 07 Ronaldo Captain
* 09 Liedson

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:34 (fifteen years ago)

hmm look like ITV has been pulled from Zattoo.

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:36 (fifteen years ago)

PEDRO MENDES is the FULCRUM of the Portugal team in the MATCH OF THE TOURNAMENT SO FAR.

Still remarkable that this player was let go.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:36 (fifteen years ago)

I don't think he's a disciplined tidy holding midfielder. He shouldn't really be in the first team for this WC at all unless there's an emergency.

No, not at all, but neither are Gerrard or Lampard; it still wouldn't have been ideal but I just wondered whether Milner+Lamp might have provided slightly better shape to the midfield than those two together.

MPx4A, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:37 (fifteen years ago)

xp to PF- I love him now that he's left, but his passing % was terrible iirc. Suffered from the lack of a midfield screener like we have now in Palacios, really.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

Still remarkable that this player was let go.

Still remarkable that this player played for Rangers

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

Milner is basically a Gerrard that listens to his manager, which is why he's to be preferred in the middle imo

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

xpost just fantastic IK! dont know bugger all about soccer but they look relentless in pressure and well organised.
perhaps we might grind a few more points out of this little gig :)

kiwi, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:44 (fifteen years ago)

"World Cup pundit Robbie Earle axed by ITV after tickets used 'for unauthorised purposes'", from BBC News.

Begs question of what said tickets were being used for. Paper aeroplanes? Improvised vuvuzelas?

Neil S, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:45 (fifteen years ago)

picking up chicks

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:46 (fifteen years ago)

scroll up a bit! (onimo otm basically)

spaghetti, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:47 (fifteen years ago)

* 07 Ronaldo Captain

= portugal not a serious outfit

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:47 (fifteen years ago)

picking up chicks

*high fives the Robster*

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:48 (fifteen years ago)

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FIFA World Cup Tickets
Published: Tuesday, 15 June 2010, 2:11PM

ITV Statement: FIFA World Cup Tickets

Following claims by FIFA that official 2010 World Cup tickets may have been used for ambush marketing, ITV has reviewed its entire ticket allocation for the tournament.

Immediate investigations indicated that a block of ITV tickets would appear to have been used for unauthorised purposes during the Holland v Denmark match.

Further enquiries have revealed that a substantial number of tickets allocated to Robbie Earle for family and friends have been passed to a third party in breach of FIFA rules.

As a result, Robbie Earle’s contract with ITV has been terminated with immediate effect.

http://www.itv.com/presscentre/pressreleases/programmepressreleases/fifaworldcuptickets/default.html

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:48 (fifteen years ago)

*cracks open a Bavaria Beer, pours a little out*

spaghetti, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:50 (fifteen years ago)

Shoulda been Townsend.

MPx4A, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:51 (fifteen years ago)

btw I haven't read this thread in its entirety but are we all agreed Mick McCarthy is the best telly co-commentator by a mile?

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:52 (fifteen years ago)

i believe so

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:52 (fifteen years ago)

http://i50.tinypic.com/902780.jpg

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

streams have gone to shit today

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

Coleman = boring
Beglin = tedious 20/20 hindsight guy
Bright = cretin
Lawro = an anthromorphic sigh

Anyone else? Nobody appears to run Mick close

MPx4A, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)

anthropomorphic

MPx4A, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)

Beglin- what you said, also idiot, also bollix

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:56 (fifteen years ago)

McCarthy is pretty dull guys

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:56 (fifteen years ago)

wry wit, that

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

The stage is set for Aruna Dindane to shrug off being shit for an entire season at Portsmouth and freakishly score the goal of the tournament.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

Beglin is the one my dad hates the most, of them all, including the ITV main commentators

McCarthy is great! His voice is dull but what he says has a weary impudence and a sagacity to it

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:58 (fifteen years ago)

McCarthy is pretty dull guys

identical pitch to the vuvuzelas, I think that's why he likes them.

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:58 (fifteen years ago)

Lawro = an anthromorphic sigh

Thought you meant anamorphic. He's worse in 16x9.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)

remember McCarthy indignantly cussing some referee at a previous tournament, gruffly muttering "look at him, thinking he's a big man...with his RED SHIRT"

MPx4A, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)

starting to miss Barry Davies again

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

Those Hyundai spots are the laziest things ever

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

Actually if the Goal of the Tournament is a Pedro Mendes lob from 25 yards I will be so so happy.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

At the moment it's Dempsey's

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

Best goal so far is probably Tshamalama's, maybe Podolski's?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:06 (fifteen years ago)

Tshamalama's for me I think.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

Park's was sweet too, but after that I'm struggling

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

That's the best bit of play so far

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

Jesus, what a strike.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

yeah tshamalama the best of a pretty lacklustre bunch. ronaldo might change that soon tho.

spaghetti, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

All the talk about how the ball flys high and that strikes at a distance are difficult....

Popture, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

i take it i should catch the highlights tonight then?

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

I can't believe a ball could be so different. Every four years.

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

hahaha gif of ronaldo saying fuck off pls

truffle-flavoured ilx posts (cozen), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

This could get very tasty (if Ronaldo stays on)

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

will this do?
http://www.gifbin.com/bin/052009/1242226186_ronaldo-stunned.gif

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:22 (fifteen years ago)

Ivory Coast looking very good even without Drogba, if they take the lead this could be tasty.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

According to the radio commentary Ronaldo was clearly fouled then set upon by four Ivorians and got booked for it. That about right?

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

3rd and 4th German goals best so far I think

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

hope Ronaldo gets sent off

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

booked for a combination of diving and squaring up I think

truffle-flavoured ilx posts (cozen), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

agree w/matt dc, ivory coast look p. good

truffle-flavoured ilx posts (cozen), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

Portugal looking very cranky and frustrated

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

would quite like brazil to go out and these two go through

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

Five live commentary "Now how many will Ivory Coast commit forward for this set piece? Six... now seven, and they're all big. Doesn't matter that they're ugly."

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

Doesn't matter that they're ugly."

Really? Jeez... It's not like Portugal are lookers in comparison.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

Drogba's sign of the cross there, quite touching. The big religious berk.

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

Really.
xp

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

jeez Portugal are filthy, filthy cheats.

carpe carp (S-), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

What's the news on Drogba's arm? When will he be available?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

He's got approval to play with a protective cast on so it's up to the manager/physio - many expect him to feature in the second half today.

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

has deco been coasting ever since on the reputation he built in those two seasons at porto?

truffle-flavoured ilx posts (cozen), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

Deco's not been that bad, he's just been out-muscled.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

Sven might hold off on Drogba as long as the score's level but it's a massive gamble either way.

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

I think there actually is a decent chance of a Ronaldo red today - he's got the face on

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

I'm beginning to think CdI are more likely to score than Portugal.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

has deco been coasting ever since on the reputation he built in those two seasons at porto?

― truffle-flavoured ilx posts (cozen), 15 June 2010 14:35 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ever since two great seasons at Barca, I think.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

Deco was one of the best players in Euro 2008, think he's always done it for Portugal in the way he never has for Chelsea. Not seen him recently admittedly.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

I totally forgot about his barca stint :)

can def see ronaldo getting a petulant second yellow

truffle-flavoured ilx posts (cozen), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

would be funny if he got a 2nd yellow for another dive, but then if he did get redcarded , then we would have to watch Portugal games without their 1 exciting player. And this world cup has been so dull this far the last thing we need is the best players being suspended.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

Coleman = boring
Beglin = tedious 20/20 hindsight guy
Bright = cretin
Lawro = an anthromorphic sigh

Anyone else? Nobody appears to run Mick close

― MPx4A, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:55 (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol myself but I thought Keown was good on the match earlier today. Never did that annoying 'at least they are glad to be here' style, seemed interested and knew about the players.

This game has been enjoyable so far, fuck an itv commentator. It's gonna get scrappy as hell in the second.

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

Remember those few short weeks 14 years ago when the Mexican Wave was new and fun? These days it's now the key indicator for Boring Game.

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

uh 24 years ago

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

so old ;_;

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

keown and dixon are the best analysts on tv on MOTD2, so no surprise if his commentary is good.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

Who's this horse-faced ITV commentator? I know him but I can't remember his name.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

Keown is rubbish! He just talks slowly and in a self-conscious posh accent, and people fall for it. Dixon is v. good admittedly.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

yeah how dare someone talking about football talk in a comprehensible fashion? get gazza back bbc is what i say.

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/48082000/jpg/_48082507_ron466getty.jpg

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

yeah how dare someone talking about football talk in a comprehensible fashion

Some insight or analysis would help as well.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)

Beggers can't be choosers.

Is Zokora is looking a lot like '25 year old' Oba Martins these days or is that just me?

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

Who is gonna score in this game?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

Didi

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

zokora you cunt

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

Trying to work out what's the best result here - think it might actually be the draw now. force them both to have a go at Brazil

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

this is shit

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

zokora you cunt

agree with you there, but for any particular reason?

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

I sure as hell hope everyone has a bit more of a go in the second group game, if it doesn't take off soon this World Cup is in serious danger of hitting "damp squib" territory.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

went to hold his face after liedson accidentally kicked his arm

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

twas always going to be about argentina, spain & brazil anyway

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

lol my announcers "and you know if there is contact with ronaldo, he's going to go down. perhaps even a puff of wind"

k3vin k., Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

there was that penalty winning super dive by zokora w/ mendes about a yard away a few years ago

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

those were the days

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

"tinkers with the Ivories"

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.ee.itb.ac.id/~waskita/files/images/DSC_3710-kucing-cantik.preview.jpg

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

Wtf was that?!

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

C d'I bringing it, if only the whole game was like this.

carpe carp (S-), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

great last few minutes, nice and scrappy

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

why didn't those stupid cunts cross the ball in from that corner

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

this really is the most boring opening stages of the world cup I can remember.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

waste

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

may come down to Portugal having to beat CIV's result against Brazil (if not also goals scored against Korea DPR) - they have an advantage here.

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

http://img.footballove.com/2009/02/1990etruscounico.jpg

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

Right, I'm declaring myself 'worried' now - I mean, that's just three out of twenty-six managing more than one goal

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

Hmm, could be shades of Scotland's group in '74 where it became a contest to see how many you could score vs Zaire (all other games being drawn). That assumes North Korea are dreadful, of course. They could be superhuman, like the East German sprinters of the '80s.

xp

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

If Brazil are shit tonight then it could really signal a poor world cup.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

some goals & excitement please!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

blimey those adidas etruscos fetch a fair bit on ebay now. I bet you could find a box of NOS in some old italian sport shops and you'd be well in the money

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

still, pragmatic Dunga-led Brazil are up next to make everything all right

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

"tinkers with the Ivories"

― Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic),

Portuguese- tinkers.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

that was like a top 4 pl game in which two reasonably good if tepid sides cancel each other out w/ shitty 4-5-1 completely lacking in skill or invention

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

brazil have been kinda dull for years, they score some nice goals w/ kaka and robinho but they're prepared to concede possesion and just kill off the opposition thru midfield attrition and lightning breaks

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

Tbf, the quality of the 'lesser' sides has improved both wrt talent and tactics and while this may lead to playing-not-to-lose, it also makes the group stages a tad less predictable. Yeah, sure Brazil/Spain/Germany/Italy/France/Netherlands are more likely to advance but it's early (somehwat cagey) days and we're still watching first group games before the better teams find their stride.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

why are the european championships consistently interesting but the world cups abundant w/ longueurs?

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah everyone just seems to be terrified of losing at the moment. They'll have to go for it more next go round.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

I wondered if it's because the Euros are condensed in quality but WCs are spread too thin? Uefa are fixing that anyhow

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

Because not that many shit teams get to the Euro championships? What IK said, rly.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

Goals scored in first 13 games in 2006: 30
Goals scored in first 13 games in 2010: 19

Brazil need to score a dozen tonight

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

where's that poll?

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

Also, Dunga's Brazil are pretty defense oriented. I've kind of given up on France (like Italy) to be entertaining but maybe Germany or Spain or a better-luck-than-usual Netherlands can provide entertainment. I'd like to see Robben play, for example.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

defensive brazil team = picking the guy who score this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsCbXu5it6Y as opposed to dani alves

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

Because not that many shit teams get to the Euro championships? What IK said, rly.

that wd explain why the group stages are better but not why the k/o rounds are usualy better too, even tho they lack brazil/argentina

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

it's a shame you can't really have big all-European clashes in the groups. many group ties are novel (e.g. you don't tend to get Japan v Cameroon in any other sport) but few if any appeal beyond that - Portugal v Brazil would if either were more like they were 8-10 years ago.

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

"You think this is a great tournament now? Just imagine what it could be if we added Georgia, Belgium, Scotland, Latvia, Israel, Macedonia, Norway and Wales" xp

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

yeah that's true xps? maicon is great but he isn't as offensive as alves, who is more of a rw

nb maicon is more ~efficient~ in the final third but positionally he is usually further back

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

lucio is still the centre half most likely to end up running into the oppositions box because he feels like it. srs the whole 'oh no dunga' thing has been way overstated imo. just because the last brazil team played 4-2-4 and this one doesn't...

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe the Euros just aren't that big a deal, so conservatism/nerves plays less of a part?

F365, after earlier mediawatch aforementioned foreigner lols, then have this in the mailbox:

......why do England's players have little to no interest in singing 'God Save the Queen'?

Well, why should they? They aren't representing the UK, they're representing England. Give them an English anthem to sing.

Oh... hang on... it's illegal and immoral to show pride in being English, isn't it? Fine for the Scots, Welsh, both flavours of Irish, and anyone living in England except the English, who can't because some politically-correct Guardian-reading liberal do-gooders are offended on everyone else's behalf.

I want to love my country but she makes it really, really difficult for me at times.
Richard Pike

they're having a bit of a daily mail day today i think.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe the Euros just aren't that big a deal

its the second biggest football tournament in the world, prestige-wise. and the Champions League is notoriously crap until the group stage ends.

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

I also don't see why everyone is so worried about the lack of goals. Some of the most exciting teams haven't played yet and teams don't yet have much to play for. Once they start having to win as opposed to just trying to not lose momentum, teams will start to go for it. No team wants to be where Austrailia is but are fine w/ 1 point.

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

lucio is still the centre half most likely to end up running into the oppositions box because he feels like it. srs the whole 'oh no dunga' thing has been way overstated imo. just because the last brazil team played 4-2-4 and this one doesn't...

nah it's more or less true

lucio seldom does that for brazil and when he does gilberto silva drops back (he basically plays like a third cb half the time)

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

Also been a good couple goalkeeper performances away from lots of goals (the Nigerian stands out) and I'm as cool w/ great saves as I am goals.

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/CurledWhup.jpg

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

Give them an English anthem to sing.

I'm chuckling at the idea of the England squad singing 'Jerusalem'.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

I am still at 'this is the WC no way it can be crap stage' or what have you. Loving it really.

Has palying at altitude affected the players? :-)

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:26 (fifteen years ago)

Agger blamed the altitude for Bendtner not being able to finish the 90mins but still lol bendtner more than lol altitude

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)

Once they start having to win as opposed to just trying to not lose momentum, teams will start to go for it.

OTM

I am still at 'this is the WC no way it can be crap stage' or what have you. Loving it really.

OTM

Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:32 (fifteen years ago)

I'm loving it too, also loving that the US players are coming out and saying they must go for the win against Slovenia.

dan m, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, and the games aren't really terrible they're mostly like domestic mid-table encounters, which is maybe what they should be as it's largely the same personnel. I just expected more from the world cup is all.

One thing that is still there is the thrill of seeing an exotic playing style, even if it's a bit less exotic and it comes out of Korea or Germany now.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:38 (fifteen years ago)

still waiting for a 2-1, 3-1, 3-2...

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:45 (fifteen years ago)

how many goals in the first 13 games of 2002?

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:47 (fifteen years ago)

Reply of Paraguay/Italy on now.

Still funny to see the Italians really hustle when behind as opposite to the g l a c i a l pace when 1 in front...

carpe carp (S-), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:50 (fifteen years ago)

*opposed

carpe carp (S-), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:51 (fifteen years ago)

lol @ robbie earle

show me your buccina (ken c), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:54 (fifteen years ago)

how many goals in the first 13 games of 2002?

39! That did include GER 8-0 SAU though.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:01 (fifteen years ago)

Also 2006 began with Germany 4, Costa Rica 2. Watch the Germans if you want excitement!

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:04 (fifteen years ago)

Can anyone answer me this - why do Italy wear blue when all other nations wear their flags colours?

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:05 (fifteen years ago)

many other teams don't wear their flag's colours

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:06 (fifteen years ago)

such as...? oh austrailia i guess.

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:06 (fifteen years ago)

Ok, I may have counted 14 games there (couldn't find chronological WC2002 guide, so just counted games played 31/5-4/6 inclusive). Still...

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:06 (fifteen years ago)

netherlands

show me your buccina (ken c), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:07 (fifteen years ago)

why do Italy wear blue when all other nations wear their flags colours?

They wear the color of the House of Savoy 'cause it was their color under the Monarchy when they first won the World Cup.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:07 (fifteen years ago)

Blue was the colour of the Italian royal house, bit like the Dutch orange

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:08 (fifteen years ago)

Japan

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

Blue is the colour of the Savoia, which was the ruling house of Italy from 1861 until 1946. Until then, the country's flag always had the Savoy coat of arms on it.

It is only since the Italian Republic was established, post-war, that the Tricolor has been the national flag.

----

This comes from the history of the Dutch people and the person that lead them into their independance. William I of Orange (also known as "William the Silent" and "Father of the Fatherland") organized the Dutch revolt against Spanish rule, which after the Eighty Years' War led to an independent Dutch state. William of Orange was befriended by Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor and his son Philip.

The flag of Prince of Orange is orange/white/blue.

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

um, xp

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

okok should have just googled instead of asking a silly q

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

Why does Daniel Sturrage play in blue though?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:11 (fifteen years ago)

because he's gone to Chelsea

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:11 (fifteen years ago)

i love how simple most of the shirt designs are this time

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:16 (fifteen years ago)

(Worst ever WC for goals, btw: Italia '90. 2.21/game. At that rate we'd have had 29 so far and the extra nine would've been distributed equally between USA, New Zealand and Paraguay).

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:17 (fifteen years ago)

They are also known as the Azzurri, which is the Italian for 'Italian national team'

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

Ow, that Italia '90 stat is chronic - that tourney was starting to get painful around now

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:20 (fifteen years ago)

I was a kid during italia 90 so my memories are heavily rose tinted by now

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

They are also known as the Azzurri, which is the Italian for 'Italian national team'

Um, actually it means 'the blues' 'cause the Savoy family were oddly fond of music from Memphis.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:28 (fifteen years ago)

http://s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/original/2010/06/13/gatainglaterra_reu_.jpg

moullet, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:34 (fifteen years ago)

* 01 Julio Cesar
* 02 Maicon
* 03 Lucio Captain
* 04 Juan
* 06 Michel Bastos
* 05 Felipe Melo
* 07 Elano
* 08 Silva
* 10 Kaka
* 09 Luis Fabiano
* 11 Robinho

that's virtually as attacking a line-up as dunga will field - michel bastos (more of a winger) at lb, elano rather than the eboueish ramires at rw

i hope they fuck up north korea tbh, 6-0, 7-0 or s/thing, i dunno if they'll show it live in north korea but anything that cld aid their freakish regime and its propaganda is to be lamented

this site has had some great super-detailed tactical analyses of the current brazil team btw

http://santapelota.blogspot.com/2010/06/operation-saida-or-exit-strategy-can.html

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)

She deliberately left four squares off her fake tan so that it resembles the england flag.. genius

show me your buccina (ken c), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

anything that cld aid their freakish regime and its propaganda is to be lamented

feel the same when England play tbh

Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:52 (fifteen years ago)

sure

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:55 (fifteen years ago)

Is that really spray-on tan on her hand?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:58 (fifteen years ago)

an economically depressed nation obsessed with one fluky success in 1966, about to be thoroughly sonned by infinitely more refined opposition

(nv.....)

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

hmm what's gonna happen to that crying guy after the game, I wonder

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

north korea's coach is scary

Zeno, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

North Korea are playing like they think they have a chance.

Popture, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

they have good defense though

Zeno, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

Is that really spray-on tan on her hand?

Welcome to the UK :-(

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

Awesome:

The following is pasted directly from Soccernet's coach profile of Kim Jong-hun: "It has been suggested that North Korea leader Kim Jong-il gave the coach advice on how to reach the World Cup. Kim Jong-Su, the general secretary of the North Korean FA, has said the Dear Leader gave 'in-depth guidance' on how to develop the game in the country and the coach himself has claimed he received regular tactical advice during matches, apparently using mobile phones that are not visible to the naked eye."

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:52 (fifteen years ago)

Their counter attack doesn't suck either. They're not playing much in Brazil's half but often when they get there they get a respectable shot off on goal, one that requires dribbling past a couple of players or passing the ball around.

Popture, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

this is the most interesting game so far

kaka completely misplaces crossfield pass....

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

http://woolflapin.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/bed-in-anniversary.jpg
ALL WE ARE SAYING IS GIVE US SOME GOALS

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

kaka looking kaka

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

see also:world cup 2010 excuses
xpost

Zeno, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

this game is great because of the lack of goals

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

Great, another team that are better than England :(

Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

liking this korea team so far. kinda expect to open the score before getting trounced

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

nakh otm. the longer this goes on, are we gonna start seeing brazil start to panic?

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

i predict a goal by brazil and then korea to tumble after that.

Vulvuzela (Ste), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

They've held a side 104 places higher than them in the rankings for half an hour now.

Popture, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

but brazil are looking more likely to score, and i think once they get their footing in its business as usual

ei ei oh (Ste), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

some decent amount of OTMing here. You can get good games with any old scoreline without them all having to be drubbings or insane 6-5 goalfests (one sided decent-team-three-up-after-10-minutes games are pish to watch unless it's your team).

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

According to the Korean Central News Agency of DPRK, the glorious nation of North Korea is leading 17-0.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

haha

ei ei oh (Ste), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

Brazil just look bored, like they are insulted they have to play this game. And this midfield is... well Melo and Bert are exactly the same player and Kaka and Elano are the same player - they really could do with something different, a playmaker thrown in. Robinho is fooling some big club European manager as we speak though.

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

woah defending header there was cool

ei ei oh (Ste), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

THE BUZZING VUVUZELA OF REVOLUTION SHALL DEAFEN THE HOLLOW PROPAGANDA OF THE IMPERIALIST'S LAPDOGS

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

ITV reporting earlier that its rumoured that the game isn't being broadcast in North Korea and won't be shown unless they win.

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

it's

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

not even a draw? a draw v. the eventual champions = a victory

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

srlsy conflicted btwn political and sporting imperatives but i'm rly enjoying this

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

ITV reporting earlier that its rumoured that the game isn't being broadcast in North Korea and won't be shown unless they win.

then the best result wd be 1-0 brazil w/ an 89th min pato winner

except dunga didn't pick him

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

How many North Korean fans do we reckon are in the stadium? Did they even bother to allocate tickets?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

This is insane. 0-0 at half time

Popture, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)

still think brazil will come out after the half and do some damage, although they are looking frustrated and NK have a heck of a defence.

good game

ei ei oh (Ste), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:16 (fifteen years ago)

Really enjoying this, I know it's not going to happen but would love NK to win.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

Are we still doing "Brazil are gonna walk this tournament?" I know there's a lot of provisos - first half, first game, blah blah, but they don't look as impressive as Germany or Maradona's Theatre of Fannydangle yet, plus, y'know, Robinho???

Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

Brazil just look bored, like they are insulted they have to play this game. And this midfield is... well Melo and Bert are exactly the same player and Kaka and Elano are the same player - they really could do with something different, a playmaker thrown in. Robinho is fooling some big club European manager as we speak though.

― ======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:04 (11 minutes ago)

there were ~maybe~ reasons for excluding each of diego, ronaldinnho, hernanes or one of their younger playmakers, but no conceivable reason for excluding all of them

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

Yes, it's excellent

Good 0-0s are as great as any games xps, the best game of the 00s was a 0-0 in fact, but we've been getting bad ones here until now

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

is this gonna be like the game vs the us in confed cup where brazil doesn't show up in the first half & then scores 3 goals in 10 mins after halftime?

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

How many North Korean fans do we reckon are in the stadium? Did they even bother to allocate tickets?

A lot of North Koreans live in Japan and travel about in China and Russia, but no idea if they could afford to or be allowed to go to South Africa. Or even have any desire to follow the national team.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

nobody has said brazil will walk this here or elsewhere

but the consensus is that whilst they're not as good as spain at their best, they're probably more likely to win difficult and scrappy k/o games

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

Adrian Chiles has no place slagging off Dunga's sartorial foibles.

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

north koreans have been playing together solidly for 6 months and it shows, they're very together

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

nobody has said brazil will walk this here or elsewhere

One or two of our regulars strongly believe Brazil will win this tournament and said as much about 10 minutes ago.

Random thoughts.

People just don't wanna accept that tedium is a great and essential ingredient of football.

Not that this is tedious, anything but. Politics shmolitics, come on the upset.

Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

Portugal and Ivory Coast must be a little nervous.

Popture, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

the national team - most of them is from "NK Army" team, a little from The Security Council team and one who plays aboard (russia).

Zeno, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:23 (fifteen years ago)

"england were rubbish, they had no triangles or anything!" was what an irrate cab driver was informing me today.

ei ei oh (Ste), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

Even though NK has only 34% possession they've had six shots on goal, two on target... that's bold.

Popture, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

can picture the sun calling for a 6 month hiatus to the prem league if england lose vs algeria

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)

Good 0-0s are as great as any games xps, the best game of the 00s was a 0-0 in fact, but we've been getting bad ones here until now

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:18 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

What game was this?

I still think Brazil will walk it. They will still win this match, they will keep Drogba and Ronaldo contained, and unless lol Spain come second in their group, they should make it to the semis easily and have some srs momentum built.

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

Anyone get the feeling that Tyldesley is secretly furious that DPRK have had the temerity to stop Brazil scoring? He has like nine pages of unused gushing Brazilian cliches sitting there and is well fucked off.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)

Brazil looked good defensively first half in terms of getting players back into the box but teams will get round their full backs on the regular I think.

Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)

i bet 0-0 on this, srlsy
w/ money

moullet, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

Shame that Lucozade Sport ad doesn't show the World Cup ball swerving up and over the bar at the last minute.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

One or two of our regulars strongly believe Brazil will win this tournament and said as much about 10 minutes ago.

Random thoughts.

People just don't wanna accept that tedium is a great and essential ingredient of football.

Not that this is tedious, anything but. Politics shmolitics, come on the upset.

― Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:22 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

there doesn't seem to be anyone saying that ~recently~, also thinking they'll win the tournament ≠ thinking they'll do so easily

this isn't tedium

i dunno, political ≠ politics schmolitics

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

there's a lot of tension in nk as you may be aware

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

Italy-Germany 2006 semi-final xp. The goals in extra time don't count for this purpose.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

and there goes a hoy hoy in the xposts saying they'll walk it but all his posts need to be read w/ a hyperbole filter

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

Oh I don't think they'll do it easily. They'll have to defend against Ronaldo, Drogba and then presumably van Injury/Sneijder, Torres/Villa... but I can see them do it and still have goals in them.

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.ihasaids.com/upload/data/1276610097.gif

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

haaa

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

and there goes a hoy hoy in the xposts saying they'll walk it but all his posts need to be read w/ a hyperbole filter

― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:34 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ha i am still surprised when ppl take me seriously tbh

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

I would love North Korea to get a goal.

Popture, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

Dunga is looking like a Uboat captain who's been told that they only have 30 minutes oxygen left on das Boot.

Stevie T, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

maicon ruins our lols

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

thank fuck

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

ahh

ei ei oh (Ste), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

booooo

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

fantastic fucking goal on the replay

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

Great strike

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

oh fuck what a finish if he meant that

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

Jammy jammy git.

NK looked like they were getting pinned back tho, Question now is does the levee break?

Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

Yup, that was rather good.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

cracking goal. commentators claiming he didn't mean it once they'd established it hadn't taken a deflection, like no players have ever scored from mad angles ever.

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

"if he meant it" - who the fuck cares, it was awes either way.

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

the hell he didn't mean to

dan m, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

The bend on that ball was just ridiculous, clearly everyone needs to start shooting at an angle of 160 degrees to the goal line.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

I dont think anything will change. A lot of the managers at the world cup have the same tactics manual as Walter Smith, anti-football for 80 mins then go for it in the last 10.

xposts

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

thought that was intentional and replay confirms it imo

this ~is~ maicon.....

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

It sure looked like he either meant it or meant to ping it off of the keeper into the goal.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

"came up with something only a brazilian can"

clive is so happy now

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

Like, I just shouted "what a goal!" as it went in, then commentators went all buzz-harshing* until replay proved they don't have a clue what they're on about.

* could do with some of that though, quite literally. Also, went out back garden at half time and had a fucking wasp whirling round my head. GO AWAY I WANTED A BIT OF PEACE!

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

It sure looked like he either meant it or meant to ping it off of the keeper into the goal.

― If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:45 (8 seconds ago)

sure

the gk's position ensured any deflection wd likely be favourable

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

Like, I just shouted "what a goal!"

So did my dad.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

I was more "thank fuck, a goal"

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

lolus fabianlol

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

Chinese actors wut?

scotstvo, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

hahaha chinese actors in to emulate n korean crowd. so they say.

ei ei oh (Ste), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

Haha, nutzoid rumours (also stop fucking going on about Dunga's jumper)

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

The Guardian says one of the North Korean travelling army is from Portsmouth. Maybe the bell ringer's there but is being drowned out by the vuvuzelas.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

fuck

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

cute pass.

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

Okay that's finished it.

Some good stuff from the vuvus tonight I thought, that mad duck honk a minute ago was great.

Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

Game over. Yay for goals :-/ (even pretty good goals)

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

now for 6-0

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

Terrific pass there from Robinho, awesome stuff.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)

Am hoping for lots of Brazilian skillz now, since we don't get an exciting will-they-won't-they potential shock game for the neutrals from here on in we might as well get to gawp and go WAU a lot.

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

lots *more*, I mean, there's been some decent stuff already

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

any cards in this game yet?

ei ei oh (Ste), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

fucking hate the way ITV makes you watch adverts before cutting to the online stream

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

corking tackle by brazilian defender dude there on crying dude

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

GET IN

ei ei oh (Ste), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

looooooooooooool

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

yes!!!!!

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

GOOOOOOOOOOOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

great goal

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

Goal of the match

Popture, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

YOU BEAUTY

Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

Game on! (probably not really)

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

I apologise for earlier suggesting that 2-0 was an end to the fun. I evidently know as much as yr average British TV pundit.

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

can't wait to see these guys v portugal

ei ei oh (Ste), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

Good game, good game

Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)

good game. wouldnt wanna meet korea at all

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)

^agreed, very well played from north korea, pretty impressive

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

Group of death just got a wee bit deadlier.

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, this was going to be a tough group already and both Portugal and Ivory Coast were counting on being able to trounce North Korea. Could have an unlikely ending.

Popture, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

britishes announcer on the usa channel said something about kim jong il's 'invisible telephone' . . . what's that about?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

Korea will definitely give Portugal, but more importantly a Svennis side, real problems.

BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

Congratulations to the Democratic People's Republic of Korea for their 1-0 victory over football powerhouse Brazil.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

N Korea played even better than SK tonight I think. The latter played some lovely stuff against stolid opposition but I wonder how good they'll look against a better defence. NK proved they can actually get forward and score despite being very well organised at the back and playing good quality opposition.

Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

aw is this over, I was gonna try and find a tv for the end :(

gbx, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

that was fantastic

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

Sticking to the plan and not dropping their heads when they went behind was admirable too.

Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

southgate's "edgar...?" = innit bolo 2010 imo

r|t|c, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

NK proved they can actually get forward and score against Brazil, no less. They look like S Korea only even more dogged.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

RE: invisible telephones

The following is pasted directly from Soccernet's coach profile of Kim Jong-hun: "It has been suggested that North Korea leader Kim Jong-il gave the coach advice on how to reach the World Cup. Kim Jong-Su, the general secretary of the North Korean FA, has said the Dear Leader gave 'in-depth guidance' on how to develop the game in the country and the coach himself has claimed he received regular tactical advice during matches, apparently using mobile phones that are not visible to the naked eye."

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

ITV's punditry way more "yay North Korea, romance of the cup, hurrah" than I imagine the sourfaced gits on the Beeb would have been.

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

Who thinks S Africa can win tomorrow?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

xpost

Yeah Lawrenson wd have been outraged that they didn't clear out of the penalty area and put a red carpet down.

Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

xxp Tyldesley definitely had a bet on Brazil to win tonight.

He's been treating them like they have never kicked a ball before. As have most of the English press.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

Not me. I think they might beat France though.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)

Was talking studio pundits rather than commentators. Tydesley's ridiculous kowtowing to received wisdom of greatness has never really been in question (see that OMG YES REALLY ARSENAL REALLY ARE BEATING REAL MADRID REALLY ZOMG game)

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

shocked to be kinda starting to prefer itv for exactly what ailsa's saying, pundit-wise at least. well, that and the fact they've had pretty much all the games worth watching so far iirc.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah I have more faith in a team to beat this France side than Uruguay. But crazy home advantage + Suarez and Forlan not knowing how to play together as some super awesome forward partnership = mebbe.

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:36 (fifteen years ago)

yeah wtf itv getting all the big games so far?

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)

Presumably they just outbid them?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)

thx jams

mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

I've seen ITV adverts proclaiming that they have ALL ENGLAND GAMES - true? Beyond the group stage?

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)

I'm sure there's only one England beyond the group stage.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)

*England game*, even.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)

jong tae-se greeting during the anthem and that goal are so far the greatest moments of this World Cup for me. Hopefully Chile can give me a performance to cherish tomorrow. Performance to cherish being a victory by hook or by crook tbh.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

Cesc and Torres out?

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

not *exactly* the same goal, but close (for anyone who thinks Maicon wasn't trying)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwUh4W19NaA

dan m, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)

that's a totally different goal from a much less tight angle that goes over the keeper rather than in the space he's left between himself and the near post and he actually looks where he's striking it before hitting rather than glance over into the middle of the box then egregiously miss-hit it into the goal imo.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

whatevs

dan m, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

OMG YES REALLY ARSENAL REALLY ARE BEATING REAL MADRID REALLY ZOMG game

Don't want to be Cap'n-save-a-Clive, but that was Drury.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:05 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah that's not really very comparable (and I think today's goal wasn't a miss hit.)

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

oh, OK. They must teach it at ITV commentator school.

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

xpost to Mike

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

http://lolzilla.info/images/mhpo730fdjd0l6tub1ds.gif

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:16 (fifteen years ago)

maicon meant it he hit it with the outside of his foot ffs

Michael B, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

to be fair you can hit with the outside of your foot by mistake. I'm terrible at football so i have done it very often, but it can happen to professionals too (the same way as the fresh-air swipe is not unheard of, even at the highest levels).

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:19 (fifteen years ago)

yup agreed

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:22 (fifteen years ago)

is that a tattoo on his shoulder or ewwww veins?

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/48084000/jpg/_48084054_nz_celebrate.jpg

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)

lol it's a big plaster I think

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)

<3 Seedorf "I was still in the imagination of my parents"

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)

wth?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feODp04Qr2I

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:26 (fifteen years ago)

His love of the inspiring power of juche compelled him.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:29 (fifteen years ago)

Is a big plaster, just been a close-up on MotD. Except now they have shown Alan Shearer in his pants, and I'm going to have bad dreams.

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:31 (fifteen years ago)

Of course he meant it - what else was he trying to do, a head-height pass to Robinho at 80mph?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder if there are any 12- or 13-y-o boys out there who think Tyldesley is pretty cool and would love to have his job one day, as I did in the early '80s. Equally, I wonder if there were any 30- and 40-somethings listening to him on Radio City back then who thought he was an insufferable tit. I mean, I assume he's worse now, but I have no real way of knowing.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

That's my only thoughts on Maicon, except: Ronaldinho, of course he meant it - what, the one time he's hit a thirty-yard free kick fifteen yards off-target, and it just happens to nestle in the one place Seaman can't reach by accident?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)

the general 'moaning about the coverage' thing is just something i never encountered anywhere before ilx and so wonder to what extent the internet enabled it (vs increased or at least altered cultural sophistication and generation shift of audience?)

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:44 (fifteen years ago)

even with the mockery of Dunga's coat it was like 'stfu clive/adrian as if you wear better clothes'

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:45 (fifteen years ago)

It was cold, ffs. What was wrong with what he wore? He had on a thick turtleneck and a faux pea coat. Jesus...

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:49 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe we're just ahead of the game, I dunno xp - whenever I speak to *real* people about it they all seem to really respect what Shearer et al have to say

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:49 (fifteen years ago)

When I speak to people they seem surprised the socceroos lost to germany.

Australia is an awful country to live in and follow the World Cup

Popture, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:52 (fifteen years ago)

I don't think I moan about it as much as the Britishes do (I think moaning about commentary is actually part of the sport in the UK), but sometimes I have liked to watch matches on Univision (in Spanish which I don't speak well enough to follow) 'cause I'm less influenced by their take and less distracted yet can still hear the crowd noise. Considering that the crowd noise is a steady drone (and that I'm watching a lot of these at work, I don't bother with the sound at all.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:54 (fifteen years ago)

If I want lazy zinging from commentators, I'll read ILX threads. I sort of expect some sort of expertise and professionalism from the people paid to talk about this, or else I'd just turn the sound off and phone my dad. Though aye, is probably cultural, but in my case it does pre-date the internet, but that's because I tend to hang out with moany bastards when I'm watching the football. It helps to have found more of them though :-)

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:57 (fifteen years ago)

Ismael on the bullseye in recent posts. Must have been training with the jabulani for weeks.

thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:06 (fifteen years ago)

we yanks are getting castoff britishes commentators on many of the matches (there have been mass complaints in the past about using baseball announcers who know nothing of international soccer football). i don't suppose they add much to the presentation, but their cliches are different from the ones we're used to hearing, so it's fun. and at least we don't have fucking seamus mallon talking about the fucking onion bag as in past tournaments.

mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:10 (fifteen years ago)

God I hate that guy.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:15 (fifteen years ago)

For a genuine American take on soccer, they should get an old player who isn't Lalas. I rather like Wynalda on that FSC show, for example.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:19 (fifteen years ago)

And yet Ray Hudson is sadly overlooked during this tournament.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, hell yeah!

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jun/15/world-cup-2010-live-blog?showallcomments=true#start-of-comments

our show got in the guardian blog today, twice! that american "chad" character is one of our reporters in SA and he went to an england press conference. then i emailed them to ask them to say when we're on...10.45 and 17.21 entries, pretty sweet. we may now have 30 viewers instead of 20.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

and maicon says he meant it

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1863/world-cup-2010/2010/06/15/1978532/world-cup-2010-brazil-right-back-maicon-insists-he-meant

he has an amazing striking technique and just scored the goal of the season in serie a, there's no reason to disbelieve him

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

Glenn Davis & Kyle Martino called the Brazil/N Korea game today on ESPN radio, and I didn't mind the pairing at all. Though I can't say I know a lot about Martino. But the radio commentary has been pretty bearable. Tommy Smyth is a bit of a kook, but none of them piss me off anywhere near the level of Lalas.

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:26 (fifteen years ago)

Had to listen to the whole Brazil/N Korea game on the radio, but after a panicked phone call at lunch time Mr Veg was kind enough to hit record on the TiVo, so I can watch it tonight. So far this has been the only game that I've wanted to do that with.

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)

Lazy zinging it might have been, but Adrian's Das Boot comment was pretty otm.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:29 (fifteen years ago)

wynalda is such an unbelievably smug prick tho. several cups ago i thought he and chinaglia were gonna brawl in the studio and i was totally on chinaglia's side.

mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:35 (fifteen years ago)

we yanks are getting castoff britishes commentators on many of the matches (there have been mass complaints in the past about using baseball announcers who know nothing of international soccer football). i don't suppose they add much to the presentation, but their cliches are different from the ones we're used to hearing, so it's fun. and at least we don't have fucking seamus mallon talking about the fucking onion bag as in past tournaments.

― mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:10 (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ally McCoist and Martin Tyler IIRC

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:42 (fifteen years ago)

wynalda is such an unbelievably smug prick tho. He's a kind of smug jock but he IS funny and his experience of having actually been on the pitch for the US makes his commentary interesting to me.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

I'm not sure why they always foist one Scot or Northern Irish on us when few of the Americans I know can understand those accents, but I don't hate McCoist and Tyler as a combo and Tyler's voice is such that I find him particularly easy to filter out.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:46 (fifteen years ago)

Just watched the video of Maicon's goal. O_O How could you even do something like that "accidentally". Espn broadcasters said he made eye contact with the goalie for a second before he kicked it, they made it sound like he knew exactly what he was doing.

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:47 (fifteen years ago)

there are so many times when players hit thunderous half-volleys where they're so unbalanced that it outswings horribly and goes about 20 yards wide, maicon is simply using that turbulence to his advantage

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:53 (fifteen years ago)

I was going to say, in those cases there's actually a fairly good chance of it going into the net. Or alternatively swinging into the box, and you never know you might get lucky either way.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:06 (fifteen years ago)

I really enjoyed tonight's game in a styles make fights sense - not overly impressed with Brazil but I think that game will have done them some good. DPRK were excellent but I don't think their defenders will do as well against Drogba as they did against Luis Fabiano.

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:13 (fifteen years ago)

Just to continue this conversation I'm having with myself re: The Young Tyldesley - the first time I ever heard him blather on about "pure Brazilian brilliance" was in reference to Steve McMahon scoring an impudent chip for Everton vs Ipswich in a League Cup tie, Dec 1981! I guess he was slightly ahead of the curve on that one, with the following summer being full of Socrates, Eder, Zico, Falcao, etc...

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:16 (fifteen years ago)

We do get John Harkes for a few matches here b/c people were bitching about no American voices calling our own team's games. I'd rather have Wynalda, though. He's a loudmouth like Lalas but he doesn't go for the "this is entertainment" angle, stuff just falls out of his mouth. The "good" USA announcers all seem to be on espn radio, i.e. JP Dellacamera and Kyle Martino (HATED him as a player but he's a surprisingly good analyst). Perennial bags of suck Shep Messing and Tommy Smyth are there, too.

dan m, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:18 (fifteen years ago)

John O'Brien is guest-writing for the NYT blog during the tournament, he'd probably be shit on TV though.

dan m, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:19 (fifteen years ago)

enjoying the new republic (!) world cup blog, curated by aleksandar hemon: http://www.tnr.com/blogs/World-Cup

mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:23 (fifteen years ago)

http://i50.tinypic.com/vzivrq.jpg

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:28 (fifteen years ago)

that was a great match. gonna root for DPRK for the rest of this tournament, don't like the thought of their soles getting caned upon return to the glorious homeland.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:59 (fifteen years ago)

definitely. or the "and they were never seen again" after their post-defeat return

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 00:03 (fifteen years ago)

at least one of their players looked 40+. what do we know about this?

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 00:10 (fifteen years ago)

espn commentator mentioned a rumor that the DPRK supporters in the crowd were actually chinese actors. v. disturbing yet v. intersting

mookieproof, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 00:11 (fifteen years ago)

imagining the casting process. "I've pretended to be a fan at all major sporting events, including shouting "C'mon Jimmy" at the 1993 Mercantile Credit Classic to devastating effect."

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 00:15 (fifteen years ago)

skeptical that they had rehearsed a goal celebration tbh

mookieproof, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 00:17 (fifteen years ago)

Chinese actors not as shocking as 'invisible telephone' and the fact that a NK player were blown away by someone showing him a cellphone. Fuck North Korea, IMO. They need to revolt now.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 00:21 (fifteen years ago)

Maicon delivering an acme bomb down the Beloved Leader's throat with the outside of his boot

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 00:30 (fifteen years ago)

<3 <3 <3 that one family tho

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 01:00 (fifteen years ago)

people here have been making (half-serious) jokes that NK will win the cup cause if they don't they're all gonna get a new pair of cement shoes when they go back

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 01:52 (fifteen years ago)

that would maybe help with the new ball tho?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 01:55 (fifteen years ago)

lolol

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 01:56 (fifteen years ago)

Watching rerun Brazil/NKorea. Love the way NK gets up in Brazil's business, even when they're just moving the ball around at half field. They have a real terrier quality that's cool to see.

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 02:57 (fifteen years ago)

i'm glad to see
east asian teams do well so far. it could be a story of the tournament if s korea and japan advance and n korea puts up a glorious fight

156, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 04:45 (fifteen years ago)

also really soccer, u are a wonderful sport if 9 months traing together can ≈ a half hour of one of the best teams in the world. <3 this tournament

156, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 04:50 (fifteen years ago)

fucking china

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 04:50 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Jun/Week3/15649883.jpg

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 04:51 (fifteen years ago)

just don't understand how a country capable of assembling an olympics team that wins all the medals can't field a good enough soccer team to beat north korea

smh

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 04:52 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe I don't hate the ball as much as I thought. I kind of love this video:
http://m.gizmodo.com/5564430/how-they-make-the-controversial-world-cup-match-ball

(Though it's crying out for a Koyaaniqatsi score)

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 04:59 (fifteen years ago)

could have sworn they grew them on trees

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 05:01 (fifteen years ago)

Pooped out by elephants

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 05:08 (fifteen years ago)

just don't understand how a country capable of assembling an olympics team that wins all the medals can't field a good enough soccer team to beat north korea

smh

― an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 05:52 (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

On North Korean telly they may have won 17-0 but umm Brazil actually won in the rest of the world. Or did you mean America? I r confused.

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 05:35 (fifteen years ago)

china

max, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 05:37 (fifteen years ago)

has anyone tried out a jabulani yet?

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 08:18 (fifteen years ago)

better than a moldmaster, not as good as a mitre delta.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 08:22 (fifteen years ago)

almost but she wanted too much

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 08:22 (fifteen years ago)

apparently they cost 80 quid. so probably will never try one tbh.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 08:23 (fifteen years ago)

£15 on amazon but we go through a ball a week at fives so can only ever justify the £2 sports direct numbers

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 08:33 (fifteen years ago)

just watched the robert green @ Nottingham gaffe, lololol

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 08:38 (fifteen years ago)

ah right i googled and saw some really expensive ones and some reasonable priced ones and assumed the more expensive were the more authentic and the cheaper would be replicas. but probably just the really expensive ones came out before they were widely available or whatever.

how do you manage to fuck a ball in one session of 5s? yous must have a competitive game going on.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 08:39 (fifteen years ago)

at least one of their players looked 40+. what do we know about this?

Hah, if this the guy I'm thinking of my Panini sticker album says he's like 26.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 08:41 (fifteen years ago)

just don't understand how a country capable of assembling an olympics team that wins all the medals can't field a good enough soccer team to beat north korea
smh

― an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 05:52 (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Soccer ain't table tennis. They tried real hard to be respectable at basketball too and still managed to finish an embarrassing 10th at the 2007 Asian Games.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 08:41 (fifteen years ago)

just don't understand how a country capable of assembling an olympics team that wins all the medals can't field a good enough soccer team to beat north korea

It's the same reason the US and Russia haven't won several World Cups each.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 08:44 (fifteen years ago)

how do you manage to fuck a ball in one session of 5s?
over the fence... almost every time /o\

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 08:44 (fifteen years ago)

true that, guess we just aren't team players xp

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 08:46 (fifteen years ago)

It's the same reason the US and Russia haven't won several World Cups each.

― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:44 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

Not really. The best athletes in the US rarely play soccer.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 08:46 (fifteen years ago)

whereas I'm pretty sure soccer is very popular in China.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 08:47 (fifteen years ago)

Clearly the best athletes in China don't play football. You can't argue with the hard evidence.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 08:48 (fifteen years ago)

I can understand the US not fielding a competitive team in soccer, soccer being a third class sport and all there. but soccer is v v popular in China

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 08:53 (fifteen years ago)

It's v v popular in the Middle East as well but that doesn't mean any of their teams are world-beaters.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 08:54 (fifteen years ago)

that's true - it's just that China has a pretty insane government run sports training program, so it seems baffling to me that they can't get 30 good players out of a five hundred million people

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:03 (fifteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/gibia.jpg

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:08 (fifteen years ago)

I guess this is a pretty telling statistic though:

low participation and neglect of grassroots and junior football (according to the 2006 FIFA Big Count, China had 708,754 amateur and youth players from a population of 1.3 billion(ratio of 1:1834) compared to 738,800 from 41 million(ratio of 1:55) in England)

but I guess it's hard to get a nation of spoiled single children to play well with each other

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:09 (fifteen years ago)

India though - there must be hundreds or thousands of guys in India with the right gifts to be top international players, and not one of them will ever get near making it

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:09 (fifteen years ago)

xp err, *spoiled only children

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:10 (fifteen years ago)

Clearly the best athletes in China don't play football. You can't argue with the hard evidence.

― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:48 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

well there's only two medals for soccer. China's sports machine is all about medals. The athletes who aren't snatched up at a young age and made a cog in that machine are much more likely to play soccer than table tennis or some other sport where they've won a lot of medals.

All this aside though, China has a serious systemic problem in team sports. They should have had way more success with Yao Ming than they did, for example. I'd stack up the athleticism of their soccer team with all of their Olympic athletes aside from the male gymnasts. I think it has something to do with the overly regimented way they train players, which doesn't leave room for team building and chemistry.

In America, we don't have this Olympic machine. The best athletes are drawn to the sports that get their interest. Soccer doesn't have hardly anyone's interest.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:11 (fifteen years ago)

India though - there must be hundreds or thousands of guys in India with the right gifts to be top international players, and not one of them will ever get near making it

― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:09 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

I've long been baffled by India's failure to make a dent in international sports. Especially tennis, where they seem to be stuck on producing good doubles players.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:12 (fifteen years ago)

I can understand the US not fielding a competitive team in soccer, soccer being a third class sport and all there. but soccer is v v popular in China

I thought I heard on TV it was USA's most participated sport? (or is that counting girls?)

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:12 (fifteen years ago)

it's counting 5 year olds.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:13 (fifteen years ago)

I think it has something to do with the overly regimented way they train players, which doesn't leave room for team building and chemistry.

Oh I think they make room for chemistry.

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:14 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, I guess my thinking is that if China's sports machine is all about glory, wouldn't they want to have a strong showing at the motherfuckin' World Cup, arguably the most prestigious sporting event in the world outside of the summer Olympics? but yeah Matt Armstrong OTM about team sports in China - athleticism's not the problem, it's the culture

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:15 (fifteen years ago)

I thought I heard on TV it was USA's most participated sport? (or is that counting girls?)

― ======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, June 16, 2010 5:12 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

full disclosure, I played indoor rec soccer as a kid but that's only cause one of my childhood friends was half-Peruvian and his dad, who was a former professional Peruvian soccer player, coached the team. I get the impression that soccer is pretty popular among the upper-middle class and affluent families in general, but football, baseball, and basketball still rule the roost.

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:17 (fifteen years ago)

I've long been baffled by India's failure to make a dent in international sports. Especially tennis, where they seem to be stuck on producing good doubles players.

Cricket, the sport they're best at, is the biggest sport in the country by an absolute mile.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:23 (fifteen years ago)

I thought I heard on TV it was USA's most participated sport?

This has been true up to the age of puberty, basically, when kids go crazy and boys start having the urge to wear shoulder pads and kill people

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:25 (fifteen years ago)

Also, 'most participated' is kinda a weird metric - I'd imagine basketball is far more 'participated' than American Football (which afaict is basically impossible to play on a rec level), but the NFL is still a much bigger deal than the NBA, let alone the MLS

Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:29 (fifteen years ago)

hmm not so sure about that - on a casual level basketball is pretty much played only in cities, IME. you'd be hard pressed to find an outdoor basketball court in most suburbs, at least ones I've been to.

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:32 (fifteen years ago)

Buffon out of the World Cup, btw.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:32 (fifteen years ago)

yeah :( heard that

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:33 (fifteen years ago)

lol at people with him in their fantasy team.

poor gigi :(

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:33 (fifteen years ago)

:(

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:34 (fifteen years ago)

this is like the kiss of death for Italy

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:34 (fifteen years ago)

Poor fascist.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:35 (fifteen years ago)

Cricket, the sport they're best at, is the biggest sport in the country by an absolute mile

and even then they're rarely the best in the world at it

also, so far as I'm aware, Dhorasoo is the only guy from the entire south Asian diaspora ever to make it as a top player, and his family isn't even originally from India - Maldives or Seychelles iirc. I guess the diaspora's mostly in lesser footballing countries, but even so

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:38 (fifteen years ago)

Also, 'most participated' is kinda a weird metric

Yes but if you've got one of the biggest populations on the planet, most of the world's money and a culture that promotes and spends large amounts of money on sports throughout school and college life you'd think all these things together with "most participated" would makes for a couple of world class players coming through every few years yet USA only seems to do top quality keepers and occasional Fulham cult heroes.

Australia's another country that takes sports very seriously yet football never seems to reach the highs of e.g. their Olympic efforts.

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:39 (fifteen years ago)

xp
More ridicolously ignorant than fascist.
Di Canio is/was the real Musssolini fan.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:39 (fifteen years ago)

Like Max's Gawker post on North Korea: http://gawker.com/5564759/

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:41 (fifteen years ago)

but remember that one time he sportingly caught the ball, he's not all bad

xp

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:42 (fifteen years ago)

The US are very, very close to being a genuine football power I reckon - in three or four world cups' time they'll be contenders to win it, internal power struggles permitting

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:43 (fifteen years ago)

yeah I heard a rumor that Lebron James is actually going to sign with the LA Galaxy

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:44 (fifteen years ago)

onimo well again in AUS it comes some very far distance behind cricket, AFC and rugby

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:44 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah I appreciate that Tracer but I still think with the support in place in these countries a few better quality footballers should come through, yet it seems to be that regardless of the support system the best players come from countries that give a shit about football.

I agree with Ismael that USA might well become a football power in a decade or so but then I thought that a decade or so ago.

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:49 (fifteen years ago)

It's a psychological thing - in Brazil, Argentina, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, England and Holland, football is the coolest sport to play, full stop. A lot of the potentially most talented kids are just more likely to be playing football. That isn't the case in the US and it may never be.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:53 (fifteen years ago)

This is probably the best US team I can remember, though.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:54 (fifteen years ago)

xp you can also make the most money playing soccer over other sports in those countries, yeah?

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:54 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah top English footballers make upwards of £4m pa. UK basketball players are more likely to be in the tens of thousands.

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:58 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah.

It takes time - AYSO didn't really get up to full speed until 1980 or so, AYSO median age probably around 10-y.o.. 10 years later those kids are juniors in college and it's 1990 and the United States finally is in a World Cup and has been in the Finals every year since

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:58 (fifteen years ago)

(and most UK basketball teams are full of Americans because Britishes can't throw balls)

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:59 (fifteen years ago)

Apparently Phil Neville could have become a top-class cricketer but he opted to become a mediocre Premiership footballer and much mocked figure.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:59 (fifteen years ago)

steve nash claims he could have become a professional soccer player

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:00 (fifteen years ago)

I think Alan Hansen once said something along the lines of "if you want to know what's wrong with the way English football is run, consider this: Phil Neville and Emile Heskey are multimillionaires."

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:01 (fifteen years ago)

I don't think it is a psychological thing. I think it was dan who posted a great article about ajax's youth system and how different it is to american football that is well worth reading and highlights their downfall. Whereas it works great for an american basketball player to spend their time alone w/ a hoop until they join w/ the college system or whatever, footballers rarely make it without learning in a team coaching environment. It said about half of the US team seemed to have made it because they were 'drafted' straight out of high school and that college development has put many to waste and yet this still has them way behind a system that in england has kids train from 9 or 10, 5 or 6 in spain, italy etc. and then join first team squads/get loaned out at the ages americans are starting to get their first professional training. With a country of so many and the increasing popularity of the sport, America is going to have more good, and great players but until they start paying attention to a tried and tested system instead of hoping good players are available to play for [american college] at 18 for a 3 month season a year, they won't really be any more than good keepers and fulham cult heroes.

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:06 (fifteen years ago)

I think Alan Hansen once said something along the lines of "if you want to know what's wrong with the way English football is run, consider this: Phil Neville and Emile HeskeyMarlon King and Wayne Routledge are multimillionaires."

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======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:07 (fifteen years ago)

The US are very, very close to being a genuine football power I reckon - in three or four world cups' time they'll be contenders to win it, internal power struggles permitting

Kinda what Onimo said, but when has this ever not been true?

Alan Hansen OTM about P Neville- E Heskey was an amazing prospect that was seemingly ruined by Gerard Houllier teaching how to dive at every opportunity.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:12 (fifteen years ago)

Number of guys I went to school with got paid to go and play sawcar professionally/semi professinally in the US every year. They weren't good enough to play for the county team at home, usually, tho one had a contract at Kilmarnock for a while

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:13 (fifteen years ago)

the american notion about 'the best athletes' is misleading cuz the best football players aren't necessarily great athletes, rather good all-round athletes with exceptional technique

drogba and c ronaldo are maybe great athletes but they're not as good as messi, who has superb quickness and balance but is about half the size of what wd constitute a 'great athlete' in the nfl

jozy altidore is exactly the great athlete americans want to have playing football, but he'll do well to ever make a solid midtable player in england or spain

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:16 (fifteen years ago)

yeah afaict soccer players spend 75% of the time standing around waiting for something to happen. don't need to be great athlete to do THAT.

;)

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:19 (fifteen years ago)

[golf clap]

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:22 (fifteen years ago)

Btw, while we are talking about it, I have been told that a friend of a friend Liam Bridcutt, Chelsea reserve has been offered a place at a couple mls clubs, most notably the one freddie's at, and thus looks the obvious contender for the next lol kazim lol kazim

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:22 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.imagesforme.com/upload/3fe92346.jpg

best footballer of the past 20 years innit bolo

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:23 (fifteen years ago)

last 404 years

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:24 (fifteen years ago)

i'd like to see a 330lb offensive tackle playing left-back for wigan, he'd probably have a massive coronary after 17mins, but on the good side he'd probably have killed a few ppl too

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:24 (fifteen years ago)

surely stoke have that market cornered?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:31 (fifteen years ago)

not that type of team imo

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:33 (fifteen years ago)

triffic lads the lot of em

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:33 (fifteen years ago)

so goalies say the new ball sucks & will result in more goals, but this has been one of the lowest scoring opening rounds in world cup history. what IS going ON?

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:35 (fifteen years ago)

They've designed a ball that swerves wildly which initially freaked the keepers out, now it turns out it swerves wildly away from goal.

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:36 (fifteen years ago)

They should make the goals bigger for the next round of matches imo.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:37 (fifteen years ago)

Or move them 20 yards to the left.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:37 (fifteen years ago)

Dunphy on RTE keeps bringing up this theory of his that Britain/Ireland's soccer talent is being stifled because kids arent playing soccer in the street anymore, which I always thought was a bit simplistic. XBOX IS KILLING FOOTBALL!

Michael B, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:37 (fifteen years ago)

Dunphy's been on that trip for years and years. Great trolling imo.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:38 (fifteen years ago)

http://i46.tinypic.com/fx4iew.gif

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:38 (fifteen years ago)

xp
pretty rubbish imo, sooo many kids round our way walking around with footballs on their way to some park or other.

and i don't even mind them loudly bouncing it on the pavement as they walk past my window oh no.

ei ei oh (Ste), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:40 (fifteen years ago)

XBox totally improved football because thanks to pro evo kids now actually think about playing football holistically in terms of teamwork and incisive passing.

er.. or the art of repeated bashing of R2

voodoo sailor (ken c), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:46 (fifteen years ago)

xbox totally ruined football because fifa is more popular and you can run through everyone without passing and it plays up the importance of tricks

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:53 (fifteen years ago)

XBox totally improved football because thanks to pro evo kids now actually think about playing football holistically in terms of teamwork and incisive passing.

this is actually true for my five a side game in recent years, sadly

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 10:57 (fifteen years ago)

+- on % of commentary time spent discussing players other than w palacios or figueroa?

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 11:29 (fifteen years ago)

honduras has a nice anthem

hoping for chile to get 2nd behind spain

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 11:29 (fifteen years ago)

unless these managers change up their normal tactics and get all cautious, this should (finally!) be an open game

scottpl, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 11:34 (fifteen years ago)

I keep reading that Chile are batshit attackers who throw everyone but the keeper at every attack so I'm recording this one. Hoping for a 4-3 with incidents aplenty.

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 11:36 (fifteen years ago)

+- on % of commentary time spent discussing players other than w palacios or figueroa?

― nakhchivan, Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:29 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

No, they instead spend time discussing the guy who has just signed for Wigan apparently.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 11:43 (fifteen years ago)

love the idea of kids in tegucigalpa walking round in wigan shirts, titus bramble a household name etc

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 11:52 (fifteen years ago)

xps Great technique, pace and all that can mostly be learned, but there's definitely some kind of mental map of play that you've got to born with to make it as a footballer. Even at my lowly level at five-a-side occasionally some guy would turn up with *the gift* and it was just plain weird that suddenly there'd be this fat, old guy walking about whose body was always in the right posture and whose anticipation always bought him three times the time and space of everyone else

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:02 (fifteen years ago)

lovely move there

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:06 (fifteen years ago)

lol at finish though

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:07 (fifteen years ago)

Totally deserved that. Really gone into this with attacking intent and committed players forward. Sanchez really caught the eye.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:07 (fifteen years ago)

Chile Vs Spain should be a sight to behold

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:09 (fifteen years ago)

They should both be through by then, sadly - though that could just about mean Chile dumping Spain into the Brazil second round tie

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:13 (fifteen years ago)

2163 new answers-

thoughts on a new thread every week or anything? Or every round, maybe?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

if this side had salas or zamorano they'd be rly great

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:16 (fifteen years ago)

Game Setup < Master League options < Player Ageing Y/N

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:17 (fifteen years ago)

Obviously Rafa had 'Player development' set to 'N' oh lol i crack myself up i rly do

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:18 (fifteen years ago)

u set them, u knock them down

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:19 (fifteen years ago)

and i don't even follow the english national team

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:22 (fifteen years ago)

this is great, mathias fernandez was maybe a bit young at villarreal but he could yet end up at a great club

alexis sanchez has a lennonish hyperactivity but slightly better touch

bielsa knows his shit

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:26 (fifteen years ago)

5live reckon that the ball and more particularly it being used in Bundesliga since January is "overshadowing the whole World Cup" because it gives Germany a "massive advantage". FFS! As noted upthread it's not just Germans in the Bundesliga. Chile look like they can pass the fucking thing!

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:30 (fifteen years ago)

some cunt in the daily mail is going to be moaning about chiles' advocacy/sympathy for truants

wd def have skipped school today but for spain more than chile tbh

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:35 (fifteen years ago)

pk? hard to tell if he was in or out

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:38 (fifteen years ago)

(re: usa football - we have a kid at our school (age 9) who's really really good (like, who knows how he'll develop etc but his control & feel for the game is amazing to see, year 4 team with him in it murdered the year 5 team etc) - anyway he trains at millwall twice a week, which I imagine is the sort of thing that would happen in the USA too - but i guess what's different about england/france/italy etc is that he also plays an hour every day at breaktime? would that happen there?)

Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:43 (fifteen years ago)

no. we also don't have a place like millwall for nine-year-olds to train at twice a week.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:49 (fifteen years ago)

http://danielmaier.posterous.com/so-you-can-play-along-at-home

Born too beguiled (DavidM), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:49 (fifteen years ago)

yeah we dont have athlete factories just intense dads

max, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:54 (fifteen years ago)

well i mean we DO have athlete factories, we just rely on intense dads more

max, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:55 (fifteen years ago)

Oh what is Ponce doing heading that?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:55 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah it was a rather bizarre decision. Fernandez does not seem to have a problem crossing this ball.

Number None, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:56 (fifteen years ago)

trying to be poncey

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:56 (fifteen years ago)

hendry thomas: the forgotten honduro-lancastrian

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:56 (fifteen years ago)

this is his story

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:56 (fifteen years ago)

marcelo salas bringing some champ mang nostalgia

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 13:07 (fifteen years ago)

yeah we dont have athlete factories just intense dads

yeah we do they are called moms

gbx, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 13:10 (fifteen years ago)

no. we also don't have a place like millwall for nine-year-olds to train at twice a week.

Actually, we do. There just aren't that many of those places yet. For example: http://www.chicagofirejuniors.com/

One of the big problems is all the crazy rules MLS enacts regarding signing players from these programs, teams don't have much of an incentive to do so + they don't (afaik) have exclusive rights to most of the players.

dan m, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 13:20 (fifteen years ago)

Also there are teams like this that are very very far off the US Soccer/AYSO radar but are going to produce some awesome players eventually.

http://www.hometeamsonline.com/teams/?u=CICEROMAYA&s=soccer&t=c

dan m, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 13:24 (fifteen years ago)

Chile v Spain could be terrific.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 13:45 (fifteen years ago)

one obstacle to player development in the us is the simple fact that footballers are not famous in the us.
all these kids play soccer, but they don't go home and dream about playing in the premier league, let alone mls.

mizzell, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)

Okay, Spain vs. the Gnomes of Zurich here and I'm stuck listening to Tommy Smyth on ESPN radio SIGH. But I'll be able to watch South Africa and Uruguay later...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)

xp now's the time for the speculative kids to make a killing imo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)

Anyone having any luck with the BBC stream? No one here can see it.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

working fine for me. Some v. nice stuff from Spain already.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

Has Spain had a shot on goal yet? It's all well and good to possess the ball, but you know.

Popture, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

If a penalty is just a foul in the box, then Senderos just gave away a penalty - but nobody cares

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

If a penalty is just a foul in the box

We live to dream, eh? Not of a team of Carraghers, though, obviously.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)

stfu Nobel prize for Sepp Blatter

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

Which would be worse? Bono or Blatter?

Number None, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

joint winners, each eulogising the other

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

ones a freaky swiss prick who's contributed nothing to football but bureaucracy and conservatism

the other's saved the world twice already.

wtf.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

can we get an update on the total goals and goals per game stats, pls, for 02/06/10?

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)

I think this is now lower-scoring than Italia 90.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

1990 - Goals scored 115 (2.21 per match)
1994 - Goals scored 141 (2.71 per match)
1998 - Goals scored 171 (2.67 per match)
2002 - Goals scored 161 (2.52 per match)
2006 - Goals scored 147 (2.3 per match)

2010 so far - Goals scored 24 (1.6 per match)

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

i can't read your posts with all that fucking noise going on in your username

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

sorry I'll repbzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb for you

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:00 (fifteen years ago)

ugh right in my ear too you disgusting savage

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

Anyone knows what happens if all the teams draw in their group as this is still possible in a couple of groups.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

if you want a vision of the future, imagine a vuvuzela raping a human ear - forever.

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

somewhere in Zurich, a committee is concluding that this is what happens when you go easy on the new initiatives

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

OMG

Popture, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

looooooooooooooooooooolll

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

get it up ye

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

it's been coming

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

My god, that was scrappy

MPx4A, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

nyt blog has a cool interactive pitch graphic

http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/16/world-cup-live-spain-vs-switzerland/

dan m, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

fuck, my radio feed is behind the times

dan m, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:09 (fifteen years ago)

game on

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:09 (fifteen years ago)

World Cup might be boring - but full of surprises

Zeno, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

otto rehhagel is rocking that dan ackroyd in nothing but trouble vibe
http://www.chefelf.com/starwars/images/ep3_judge.jpg

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)

Mick's having a struggle to keep neutral here

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)

i heart Del Bosque and do not want him to fuck this shit up

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)

Spain's chances of being a real contender in this cup depend on whether they come back from this to win it. I won't buy a draw and I doubt they will either. If they lose, they'll just collapse, methinks.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:12 (fifteen years ago)

^ this is very true

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

i dunno they usually start so well and collapse later and i would really expect a Del Bosque side to bounce back from this

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

I would too, but their finishing isn't great and they're not very incisive.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

The only game Spain have lost since Nov 2006 was in South Africa, so maybe they don't like the vuvus?

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

I get the impression that the Swiss prepared for this game by watching this season's Inter-Barcelona game over and over again.

Tim, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

Tell me something about Navas.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

Swiss fans now chanting "you're shitter than Luxembourg"

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

has navas got over his home sickness then?

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

if the Spanish do crash out they would be the third EC winners in a row to fall massively short of post-Euro expectations (Greece having not qualifed for 06, France's 02 shambles)

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

shots
Spain 17
Switzerland 1

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

Goals:

Spain 0
Schweiz 1

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

cheeses:

spain a lot
switzerland one (?)

max, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

onimo, how many have been on target? How many have been real threats?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

racism

spain tons
switzerland institutionalized

max, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

WAHT? Switzerland has a couple of good cheeses.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

yeah but how many are on target? how many are real threats?

max, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

onimo, how many have been on target? How many have been real threats?

No idea, reading it off a screen on that nyt link posted upthread.

19-2 now, Swiss pressure building.

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

Swiss racist death cheese

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

I'd say that one was a real threat

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

wish that had gone in from Alonso.

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

xxxxxp crazy talk - switzerland has tons of cheeses. they probably beat Spain in that dept

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

jesus, navas!

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

they probably beat Spain in that dept

I wouldn't go THAT far.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

christ, that would've been amazing

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

Tighten' up Spain.

Popture, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

omg.

really wish the BBC stream would stop crapping out at crucial moments.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

15 more mins of this, please

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, best game so far

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

Ha ha, hop Schweiz!

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

ayayay

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

That NYT thing has possession at 86-14 which is obv ridiculous unless the Swiss are playing with nothing but SuperKeeper.

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

Spain look like their traditional, frustrated selves.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

Never, ever bet on Spain

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

great game for the neutrals

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

That NYT thing has possession at 86-14 which is obv ridiculous unless the Swiss are playing with nothing but SuperKeeper.

livescore.com has 66-34... and 21-5 in shots, of which 8-3 on target.

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

From BBC, slightly more realistic.

Possession: 67%-33%
Attempts on target: 8-3
Attempts off target: 9-2

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

God, they've had some amazing shots - all just wide or off the crossbar, etc...

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

Speaking of max's racism crack up top, does it not seem like almost every country now is willing to play immigrants?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

shitty bbc text stream is about three mins behind, but they brag about it refreshing every 30 seconds. idots.

go O and O (Ste), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

Switzerland just as likely to score now

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

Damn! Switzerland fancy this one.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

lol at spain

max, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

pls with more details tks bye

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

if only it were someone else benefitting

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

gaaaah stream keeps freezing

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

about a minute behind now

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

Torres plainly not ready

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

Navas has had a couple of goodish shots.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

that villa chest pass wz wicked!

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

Villa stil criminally under-rated in comparison to Torres, partic (maybe only?) by English media

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

that's what happens when one plays here and the other doesn't i guess

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

eggimann

on spain's face

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, I rate him higher than Torres, esp now.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

a yellow card for the miscreant!

max, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

Been hard at work all day but it's made up for by coming home to this hilarity.

Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

as good as the inter barca game for me

switzerland's big CB was immense

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

odds that spain gets out of the group? 50-50 maybe?

iatee, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

Terrific match. If only it wasn't Switzerland.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

Even with 5+ minutes of stoppage they can't get a single goal.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

q - is there a correlation btw how screwed european economies are, and how bad the soccer teams are

max, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

Chile-Spain could be absolutely mighty now

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

xp yeah blueski but even accepting that it's a bit extreme imo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

lol Swiss bolt.

Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

max- we still have a team, so no it can't be that

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

so is this still 1-0

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

greece - bankrupt - team: sucks
spain - almost bankrupt - lost to switzerland
ireland - no money - handball lols

max, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

Well, that was a thrill ride.

Grisly Addams (WmC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

so is this still 1-0

― Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:54 AM (7 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is 1-0.... forever

max, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

Bunch of chokers.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

spain v chile gonna be fun

Jarlrmai, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

espn: "switzerland just caught the biggest nut... got down and dirty... found a holer"

max, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

I'm frankly surprised that this didn't finish 2-0, considering that, with all their possession, Spain never really looked like they would actually score and Switzerland kept up with rather frightening counters.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

worst first batch of group matches ever. so who's stoked for tonight's 0-0/1-1?

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

Hoping it's a 0-0 cos I'm enjoying the relentless moaning and I'd like to see how long it can be kept up.

Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

so we can extrapolate that Switzerland >>>>>>> USA

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

I'm enjoying the relentless moaning

pleasures very much in character tbh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

lololololololol Spain

Born too beguiled (DavidM), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

darragh otm

Assou-Ekotto light boy? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

Can't complain when you get low-scoring matches like the last ... jeez, is that eight decent matches in a row now?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

seriously where does shearer get these shirts from

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

First the financial crisis now this.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

i know what's really bugging me about the tv punditry now. there's no-one over 50 allowed as a regular, no-one really experienced as a manager so less varety to what you see and hear.

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

Hansen is 55, Lawro is 53, Vieira is 57.

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the cameras must subtract 10 years. Lawro's not on camera of course.

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

Alan Shearer retired from football at 52 iirc

Don't Jong Tae Se me, bro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

After repeated elbow injuries forced him to stop

Don't Jong Tae Se me, bro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

seriously where does shearer get these shirts from
http://www.thomaspink.com/

i know what's really bugging me about the tv punditry now. there's no-one over 50 allowed as a regular, no-one really experienced as a manager so less varety to what you see and hear.
michael mccarthy

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

Kevlol Keegan

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

xp

ah the old on-screen caveat

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

Adebayor could be 50 for all we know

Number None, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

Keegan's experience as a manager involves picking a bunch of teams at random in a poppers and MD 20/20 induced trance

Don't Jong Tae Se me, bro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

and for one glorious season it almost worked

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

i know what's really bugging me about the bbc punditry now. there's no-one over 100 allowed as a regular in the studio, no-one really experienced as an internet hardman so less fucking variety to what you see and hear.

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

can't argue with that

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

oh ye have little faith

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

Germany showed up. Brazil showed up. France and Italy are still cagey but they usually step up after the group stages, if they can get there. I'm not sure what I think of England - what would you have made of them if Green hadn't flubbed that and they'd gone on to content themselves w/a 1-0 victory? I'm rooting for S Africa to do well, happy that Japan won outside of Asia, and underwhelmed by Maradona's Argentina. I'm reserving judgment on Portugal and Ivory Coast. It's been a cautious start and there have been plenty of matches between relatively equally likely teams but I love the WC and am willing for it to play out however it does.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

Johnny Giles used to post on here as El Tomboto iirc

Don't Jong Tae Se me, bro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

Having seen all the big teams, England suddenly don't seem that bad.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

I agree, actually. Don't know if they're world-beaters, though.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

I'm not sure what I think of England - what would you have made of them if Green hadn't flubbed that and they'd gone on to content themselves w/a 1-0 victory?

Boring but decent enough. 1-0 is like 3-0 in this WC.

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

England are in the same boat as Italy, maybe France - haven't hopelessly fucked up, have it in them to get necessary results.

Don't Jong Tae Se me, bro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

Sorry - have it in them IN THEORY to get necessary results.

Don't Jong Tae Se me, bro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

I thought Argentina were much more of an attacking threat than anyone other than Germany so far and but for some good goalkeeping could have really racked up a score. I'd agree with most of the rest of that.

xp to Michael

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

Eng-Fra-Ita: still struggling with altitude

Spain: barely breathing

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

Argentina will be a proper threat, I'd take a comfortable but unsatisfying win for a first game.

Don't Jong Tae Se me, bro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

France and Italy are still cagey but they usually step up after the group stages

disputing this as both don't as often as they do really

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

There have been a few games so far when the teams who can realistically expect to come first and second have played each other and drawn - France-Uruguay, Italy-Paraguay, England-USA - not a catastophe for anyone concerned really. Especially given that Italy's group is the easiest of all.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

rate Mexico over Uruguay

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

^^^ Also the 2nd place derby btw Portugal and Ivory Coast.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

3rd place derby you mean? N Korea are so going through based on yesterday's performance.

voodoo sailor (ken c), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:30 (fifteen years ago)

Both CIV and Portugal could have serious problems with North Korea if they continue to play like that.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)

Agreed, they could really trouble Portugal in particular I reckon

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)

Perhaps you're right, ken.

CIV, Portugal, Spain, Argentina and Mexico all looked good in possession and going forward but I never believed any of them were going to win. I know that's hardly scientific but I feel there's some spark missing.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:37 (fifteen years ago)

that's a bit harsh on Argentina

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 16:39 (fifteen years ago)

in my never-ending quest for the World Cup's most tedious stat...have Germany ever lost a WC group match? England are currently undefeated in 8 consecutive WC group matches (matching Spain's tally before today's game), Brazil undefeated in 7 (lost to Norway at 98). The Dutch haven't lost one since 94 but missed 02. Mexico had managed 10 unbeaten between losing to Norway in 94 and losing to Portugal four years ago.

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:03 (fifteen years ago)

Fantasy football taking a battering

http://twitter.com/optajean

0 - Messi, Ronaldo, Eto'o, Rooney, Drogba, van Persie, Kaka, Villa, Torres = 0 goals, 0 assists in WC 2010

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:04 (fifteen years ago)

Algeria beat them in 82 but then got fucked over by Ger-Aus alliance and didn't qualify out of the group

MPx4A, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:05 (fifteen years ago)

shit, haven't even looked at my fantasy team. Suspect it's not doing too well.

ailsa, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:06 (fifteen years ago)

Maradona tells Pele to go back to the museum

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:07 (fifteen years ago)

xps ah they lost to Denmark in 86. That's 16 unbeaten then - twice as many as anyone else by the looks of things. Got dam.

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:07 (fifteen years ago)

Maradonthemoneya

Don't Jong Tae Se me, bro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

last week was the first time i've ever seen Maradona in a suit, and he wore it well

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:11 (fifteen years ago)

haha, i think it was barry glendenning who said he looked like a lottery winner who had to put on a suit to pick up his check.

mizzell, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:12 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder who Argentina will face from Group A if they get out of the group stage? I would love to see another Argentina vs. Mexico.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

:( at missing this, hope it is on iplayer?

also :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD fuck barcelona even if rapey ramos and the beardy keeper also played.

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:22 (fifteen years ago)

Can you not watch streaming at work?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:23 (fifteen years ago)

lol @ Maradona's "We know how the French are..." - rest of the world nods solemnly in agreement.

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:28 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, today they're very wet and some are dead.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:29 (fifteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/m9rLj.gif

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/

Cunga, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/www.ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet?boardid=40

posting will never be the same.

Cunga, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:51 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOEC1uaU-O0

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 18:05 (fifteen years ago)

during the first South Africa game I was sick in bed, feverishly dozing, and half-dreaming the vuvuzelas were playing the wall-of-noise bit of You Made Me Realise.

TURN THE FUCKING BEES DOWN (tomofthenest), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

Hahaha

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

Mr Veg doesn't even call it soccer anymore, he just asks, 'Are you going to watch the bees?"

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

Tim Howard: "I don't like being goalie. Even now, I don't. I don't enjoy games. I never enjoy playing in games. I enjoy the buildup sometimes, and I certainly enjoy afterward. But it's way too intense. I'd like to play out in the midfield -- holding midfield -- breaking up play and passing it to the more talented guys."

dan m, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

during the first South Africa game I was sick in bed, feverishly dozing, and half-dreaming the vuvuzelas were playing the wall-of-noise bit of You Made Me Realise.

That's the spirit!

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

I know the players say this ball is unpredictable, wobbles every which way etc, and of course they know best... but what I'm thinking when I see these shots blasted away, crosses out to the line going over people's heads and so on is: is the thing with this ball that it doesn't curl like footballs usually do, but just keep its course?

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

*keeps

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

lolz anatol!

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

haha what timing! DIP!

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

Diego Forlan spoiling the party, apparently. See, we don't *all* want goals :-)

ailsa, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

Deflected tho

Number None, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

all the ones that have appeared to dip have taken a deflection.

Jarlrmai, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

radio commentators lost their minds over that Forlan goal

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

Other than the Germans, that's just about the only goal by a forward at this world cup

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

if it doesn't hit that defenders shoulder its going over.

Jarlrmai, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

Dirk Kuyt?

xpost

ailsa, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=134628129887183

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

v.impressed by forlan. pienaar's playing well in spots too

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:08 (fifteen years ago)

if it doesn't hit that defenders shoulder its going over.

but hitting the defender's shoulder makes it go higher? it would slow it down a bit and maybe otherwise it would've been just low enough for the keeper but still a good if not great strike

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

South African bloke, Ghanaian bloke (pen) and possibly Swiss bloke today and I think that's it. I'll give you Kuyt too - was playing midfield but had moved up front by the time of his goal. xp

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

xp hitting the defender made the ball spin more surely, giving it the dipping quality.

go O and O (Ste), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah yeah deflection whatever that was amazing from Forlan. Exciting game this.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:23 (fifteen years ago)

It's good yeah and anything could happen, but it's looking like SA blew their chances by letting Mexico back in it

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)

The Uruguayan squad's admiration for the referee is unstinting.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

yeah SA look to have 12 men now AMIRITE

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

one of whom is called SURPRISE

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

sub-editors everywhere praying for Surprise Moriri to score

xpost

ailsa, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

lol was gonna say the ref is gonna ned to do something pretty special to help the host nation out of their group given that they can't get in Uruguay's half for more than five seconds

xp to LJ

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

DJ Mencap I was pretty much thinking those very words, A+

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

seems like it behaves like a kids beachball. it bends more than it should with spin, and when hit flat it just moves around unpredictably. do non-yanks know what a knuckleball is?

exuding an aroma of lolz (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

Knuckleball = pitched with no spin so it moves chaotically as the seams create turbulence. The thought crossed my mind too, except this thing's got no seams, so not sure how that works.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

its like a £2 floater from woolies

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

It has 'negative' seams though.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

I fooled around with one that was being given as a prize at a local bar, the $$$ official model, and I was pretty amazed at the fingerprint-like ridges all over the thing. Didn't get too boot it hard or anything like that, of course.

dan m, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

Has there been a noticeable decline in the quality of football in the Bundesliga since they started using it?

ailsa, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

Love that you can come out with that and also claim you are confused by cricket when we start talking about reverse swing.

BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

btw beach balls curl in a counter-intuitive direction, so this doesn't behave like one at all

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

Merkins, not Ailsa obvs.

BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)

Meanwhile, FIFA would like to invite you to enjoy its new game, "Make a Uruguayan Bleed."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)

This is a bit more like it from SA

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

O_O so much for the homer ref

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

RIP KUHNE WE LOVED YOU

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

lol that was such an intentional trip

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

And that's why players go down when it's easier to score

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

its all gone quiet (unless its saved)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

i loved that he started running away from the ref

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

You have to catch me to send me off!

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

Ultraquickfire poll: scores penalty or not?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

not convinced suarez would have reached that before the defender

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

yellow card for me

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

wtf -- was the backup keeper eating dinner or something? jeez

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

Hope that ref's got good security at his hotel...

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

voting goal

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

i think he's tying the shoes of everyone on the bench

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

how long are they gonna make the penalty taker wait?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

i loved that he started running away from the ref

You used to be able to do this in the early FIFA games. Minutes of fun.

Number None, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

Would not be taking off Pienaar

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

it was an offside, ha

Zeno, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

nah it was onside

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

i the ref just whispered to forlan "miss, please"

go O and O (Ste), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

onimo does ilx proud

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

great penalty

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

never in doubt

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

really nice shot

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

damn he aaaaaalmost deflected it

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

What happens to red cards and yellows after the group stage?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

who's the fourth team in this group? (sa, uru, mex, ?)

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

>5 mins from pen award until he hits it

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

france

ailsa, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

"Coming up: Italia' 90 remembered - Bobby Robson, Gazza's tears and penalties"

BBC catering for non-English Brits there

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

Ref is Swiss = he celebrates the victory over Spain by getting drunk = much on the pitch explained.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

kind of feel sorry for South Africa, but they are rubbish

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

france don't count j0rdan, it's ok

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

what is happening

nyt blog shows two goal shots but has the score at 0-1

goole, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

yes, very much looking forward to seeing Costa Rica again *cries*

xposts

ailsa, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

WTF South African fans leaving?!

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

my stream keeps pausing so i haven't even seen the penalty yet!

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

gotta beat the traffic

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

Hate that that was a red card btw - so disproportionate

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

lawrenson is a shambles

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

look at all those empty seats now. Part time supporters!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

3 goals!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

I kinda wish Forlan would come back to the Premier League.

Number None, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

shitty finish though lol

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

Not so impressed with Suárez, but Forlán is a top, top player

South American teams killing it btw

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

I thought suarez played his role well and no doubt suarez is a clever and talented player but he's conned the ref a bit

thought the little enforcer for uru was really good too

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

Ouch

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

odd decision to remove pienaar too when tshabalala was on a much worse game; actually thought pienaar looked p.good considering what he had to work with

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

Forlan is a beast. If only Fergie didn't ruin long haired strikers, ey?

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

Forlan is someone I could see being good for Spurs.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

I thought Pienaar was disappointing, he kept playing passes and then dropping back waiting for another square pass to him - made very few forward runs and didn't get in behind once that I can remember. His entire game was 20 yards too deep - basically doing the easy pointless version of Forlan's role.

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

I agree w/that but was giving him the benefit of the doubt that he was being told to stay deep

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

With Khune out of the next game, maybe he wanted to make sure Pienaar wasn't too.

xxpost

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

Has there been a noticeable decline in the quality of football in the Bundesliga since they started using it?

― ailsa, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:00 (43 minutes ago)

No. Also plenty of free kicks scored post January so perhaps the ball is particularly poor at altitude or something?

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

maybe it's not the ball's fault

mizzell, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

hot air from vuvuzelas steering ball off course

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

wtf BBC North Korea skit???

TURN THE FUCKING BEES DOWN (tomofthenest), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)

Wait, what? What did this involve??

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

Ah, it was harmless - their news bulletin with footage edited accordingly to show their 2-0 triumph. Basically the same gags we were making yesterday.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

a lot of cliched shit said about spain, they shd still qualify with ease tho if in second place it will open out the draw

% ≈

25 brazil
20 spain
15 argentina
12 germany
10 holland

imo

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:20 (fifteen years ago)

120% pdrk

max, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)

dprk

max, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)

durp

gbx, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:22 (fifteen years ago)

i fucking hate spain. thanks for virtually knocking Chile out of the competition with your bottling pish, putos coñazos.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)

srsly impressed by uruguay, against a shit team but the level of defensive organization is rly impressive and hat-tip to tabarez for getting forlan, suarez and cavani to work together so well

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)

that's def the worst thing about spain's fuck up today xp

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)

plz explain I don't know what happen

gbx, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)

that's def the worst thing about spain's fuck up today xp

don't know if you're being sarcastic; but it is to me :(

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:26 (fifteen years ago)

I thought suarez played his role well and no doubt suarez is a clever and talented player but he's conned the ref a bit

Not sure if that's quite true. He made a meal of it, undoubtedly, but it was a foul and it was a penalty and it's not as if the ref gave a red card because he thought Suarez had been seriously injured.

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:26 (fifteen years ago)

if chile don't beat switzerland they don't deserve to go through

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)

don't know if you're being sarcastic; but it is to me :(

― Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:26 (46 seconds ago)

totally srs

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)

If Chile beat Switz that's them through though right?

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

How have Spain virtually knocked out Chile? I'm lost.

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

anyway, chile can just go and get their revenge by knocking out Spain eh right Jim :D

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:29 (fifteen years ago)

(god that would make me happy)

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:29 (fifteen years ago)

If Chile beat Switz that's them through though right?

not necessarily - assuming both Spain Switzerland beat Honduras, Chile would have to beat Spain or rely on goal diff

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:31 (fifteen years ago)

ANSWER THE G-D QUESTION

gbx, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:31 (fifteen years ago)

Tie-breaking criteria

For the World Cup tournament, FIFA uses the following criteria to rank teams in the Group Stage.[71]

1. greatest number of points in all group matches;
2. goal difference in all group matches;
3. greatest number of goals scored in all group matches;
4. greatest number of points in matches between tied teams;
5. goal difference in matches between tied teams;
6. greatest number of goals scored in matches between tied teams;
7. drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee.

chi > swi, swi > hon, esp > chi, esp > hon

honduras cld be demoralized by the last game and lose heavily to switzerland, spain rack up the gd = chile come 3rd

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:31 (fifteen years ago)

call me honest (or naive) but I guess I just think of making a meal of it as conning; plus he'd had previous with a blatant dive earlier in the game

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:32 (fifteen years ago)

Swiss have 3 points and can expect Chile not to get a result against Spain, who presumably will bounce back and win their next two games. this means the swiss can play for a draw in their remaining games and go through. Chile side will most likely not be able to break down their anti-football - Spain couldn't and Chile are no Spain - and Chile are defensively weak and will be liable to concede from counterattacks. If Spain had done what we all thought they'd do and won today the Swiss would have actually had to come out in their remaining games and in a more open game would be far less likely to come out on top.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:32 (fifteen years ago)

I agree tho it was still a penalty so haha yeah not sure what I'm saying! :)

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:32 (fifteen years ago)

gbx, the fact that spain lost, but everyone assumes they'll still win their other two games, makes it harder for chile to qualify. if spain had won, chile wouldn't have to worry about switzerland.

caek, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:33 (fifteen years ago)

still waiting for a team to score yet lose - hoping SKorea do this tomorrow as i've bet on Argentina to win 2-1 with Mascherano scoring first at 140/1.

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:33 (fifteen years ago)

getting up at 4pm CDT during a world cup is SHIT. four days to go of this.

caek, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

Swiss have 3 points and can expect Chile not to get a result against Spain, who presumably will bounce back and win their next two games. this means the swiss can play for a draw in their remaining games and go through. Chile side will most likely not be able to break down their anti-football - Spain couldn't and Chile are no Spain - and Chile are defensively weak and will be liable to concede from counterattacks. If Spain had done what we all thought they'd do and won today the Swiss would have actually had to come out in their remaining games and in a more open game would be far less likely to come out on top.

k thx!

gbx, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

are there not staggered broadcasts you cd catch at a reasonable time?
xp

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

still waiting for a team to score yet lose - hoping SKorea do this tomorrow

as n korea did yesterday ;)

scottpl, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:36 (fifteen years ago)

getting up at 4pm CDT during a world cup is SHIT. four days to go of this.

dude I have to show up at the hospital everyday at 0715. I have missed every single game except, miraculously, the us uk game which came on just as I was post call

gbx, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:36 (fifteen years ago)

I'm not convinced that Switz will be able to effectively take the game to Honduras and win if they need to in the last game. I mean they were v effective Vs. Spain in what they tried to do but presumably they will have to be more expansive in their remaining games. Although I guess they may go for the 2 draw scenario outlined above.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:37 (fifteen years ago)

xp, the replays are on espn classic, which apparently the tv here doesn't have

caek, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:37 (fifteen years ago)

People who assume Spain will win their other two teams might be just as wrong as people who assumed Spain would win today.

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

the scotsman weighs in on the pundits
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/sport/Tom-English-39The-level-of.6364084.jp

cozen, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:40 (fifteen years ago)

Do not bet on Spain winning both games, or on Switzerland beating Honduras. Basically agree though - Spain losing would've been more amusing against almost anyone else.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:40 (fifteen years ago)

if chile get a result against spain i will spontaneously combust in a paroxysm of joy.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:40 (fifteen years ago)

xp, the replays are on espn classic, which apparently the tv here doesn't have

yeah I don't have cable :(

it's easy for me to avoid the results (not on a computer really), but it don't matter why because no cable

gbx, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:40 (fifteen years ago)

xposts Yeah. I mean Chile are really good, and used to playing against good teams.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:41 (fifteen years ago)

as n korea did yesterday ;)

that's not what i read in today's Pyongyang Times

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:43 (fifteen years ago)

that's not what i read in today's Pyongyang Times

ha...the spirit of what you're saying still holds though, that was very much a late consolation. There have been no back and forth matches full of incidents, no deadlocked scores other than 0-0 ones.

scottpl, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:48 (fifteen years ago)

1-1?

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:49 (fifteen years ago)

most forgettable world cup ever judging by this thread so far

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:53 (fifteen years ago)

Ha!

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:53 (fifteen years ago)

1-1?

oops. I meant *broken* deadlocked scores...no games in which there were goals on both sides and then a winner, as steve was hinting at too

scottpl, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:54 (fifteen years ago)

Feel like last Euro's and World Cup had raised my expectations to too high a degree, and with LFC having such a crap season I've been on World Cup countdown for the last 5 months.
But I've still enjoyed a large number of games. All of today's for example.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:56 (fifteen years ago)

yeah I don't have cable :(

it's easy for me to avoid the results (not on a computer really), but it don't matter why because no cable

so wait, where do you watch the games?

caek, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:59 (fifteen years ago)

oh btw for the hispanohablantes Diego Forlan has a twitter:

http://twitter.com/DiegoForlan7

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:05 (fifteen years ago)

I think we are possibly overrating Switzerland's antifootball here. Not convinced they'll be able to put in a performance like that again.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:07 (fifteen years ago)

Also they were lucky to benefit from about 30 seconds of sheer incompetence from Casillas and the Spain defence. Although note to future opponents, Spain don't like it up em.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:12 (fifteen years ago)

^ to both

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:13 (fifteen years ago)

big sam for argentina imo

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:13 (fifteen years ago)

oh i have a mildly amusing anecdote. i was criticising the quality of shots from distance in this world cup during the Uruguay game and said "i just want someone to score a screamer" at the same time as Forlán's shot went off the bar and in. Seeing in the reply that it took a fairly wicked deflection took the shine off the moment a bit but it was funny at the time.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:18 (fifteen years ago)

so wait, where do you watch the games?

― caek, Wednesday, June 16, 2010 4:59 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark

i don't :(

gbx, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

who is your ISP

admrl, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:22 (fifteen years ago)

no it is mostly that i am at the hospital all dang day

gbx, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago)

Dude, until the last coupla days, in terms of quality you haven't missed much but football being on all the fucking time is just glorious.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago)

U can replay matches on ESPN 360 if you have the "right" ISP

admrl, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

*hadn't

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i mean i guess the nice thing is that my clerkship ends on July 2nd, to be followed by 8 weeks of "boards prep" which means i can at least catch all of the finishing matches

gbx, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:25 (fifteen years ago)

OTMFM

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/sport/Tom-English-39The-level-of.6364084.jp

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)

missed it upthread sorry. i'm as bad as the pundits i know.

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:34 (fifteen years ago)

I run a four-week course which, to my frustration, coincides exactly with the World Cup. This is my busiest time of year and I'm working crazy hours and missing nearly everything. I can't possibly watch any of the England v Slovenia game next week as I'll be observing trainee teachers doing their lessons. I suppose I could secretly get radio commentary through miniature headphones, but it would be more than a little inappropriate if I suddenly interrupted their lessons by shouting out "Yes!" or "For fuck's sake!".

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:34 (fifteen years ago)

I don't know, might be very appropriate depending on how great or horribly they are handling the lessons.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:35 (fifteen years ago)

so what you're saying is you want us to post the score here as it changes

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:35 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah that article is mostly v. otm except I don't think he quite gets what audience the Beeb and ITV are catering for - there needs to be a middle ground between punditry as entertainment and the po-faced analysis that the writer seems to be demanding.

Don't Jong Tae Se me, bro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:36 (fifteen years ago)

if what Chiles did re USA game counts as 'entertainment' tho...

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:37 (fifteen years ago)

"For fuck's sake!".
The+- on the use of this phrase during England games?

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:38 (fifteen years ago)

U can replay matches on ESPN 360 if you have the "right" ISP

Yeah, being on a non-corporate-behemoth cable system and not getting this thing pisses me off thoroughly.

Grisly Addams (WmC), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:39 (fifteen years ago)

omg i can watch EVERYTHING

gbx, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:41 (fifteen years ago)

if what Chiles did re USA game counts as 'entertainment' tho...

Well yeah quite but the way that article reads I'm picturing a 1950s round table with Malcolm Muggeridge and John Julius Norwich debating the merits of playing 2 holding midfielders.

Don't Jong Tae Se me, bro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:41 (fifteen years ago)

Didn't know until now that Gonzales has recorded a proper Band Aid style anthem for France

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANEBm7Ex1jw

The title translates as 'Pull Your Fingers Out' (?)

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

oh my god that's like a tsunami of OTM

xposts good lord

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

xpost

lol Parental Discretion is Advised

Don't Jong Tae Se me, bro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:46 (fifteen years ago)

"Italie Enculé"

Don't Jong Tae Se me, bro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:47 (fifteen years ago)

Love the putes/buts rhyme.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

http://imgur.com/lkUKz.png

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)

At one stage tonight during the SA-URU game George Hamilton pointed out that SA had been on a 13 win unbeaten streak coming into the tournament with a certain formation (playing 2 wingers who he could name but I've forgotten) and wondered out loud why Perreira would have changed things around when that had been so successful.

I thought of yr Beglins, yr Shearers and yr Hansens and what they could have told you about SA's formations, personnel and form and I had a little lol, I must admit.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 23:30 (fifteen years ago)

Dude, until the last coupla days, in terms of quality you haven't missed much but football being on all the fucking time is just glorious.

OTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTMM

go O and O (Ste), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 23:35 (fifteen years ago)

word

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 23:45 (fifteen years ago)

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l44sk7ZiUL1qzvdydo1_400.jpg

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 23:52 (fifteen years ago)

Hahaha

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 23:57 (fifteen years ago)

looking forward to argentina v south korea tomoz, might be a lil cracker imo

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 June 2010 00:27 (fifteen years ago)

http://i46.tinypic.com/2q3omrs.jpg

Cunga, Thursday, 17 June 2010 00:31 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i'm thinking it'll be a good one, it's my one 4:30 am game i'm getting up for this week

156, Thursday, 17 June 2010 00:41 (fifteen years ago)

Uruguay game today was def my favorite so far

exit through the (Tape Store), Thursday, 17 June 2010 00:44 (fifteen years ago)

we're playing the games in our theater, and i keep accidentally sitting in front of obnoxious people, e.g. racists during NK-Brazil, Drew Carey fans during US-England. but it's really cool to be surrounded by non-hipsters

exit through the (Tape Store), Thursday, 17 June 2010 00:46 (fifteen years ago)

you can download the games from torrent sites btw, about a gig each

watching the brazil n korea game right now, jeez every player on brazil is like 6'6 with massively long legs

dyao, Thursday, 17 June 2010 00:50 (fifteen years ago)

wow I can't imagine there are that many drew carey fans who care about the world cup

iatee, Thursday, 17 June 2010 00:56 (fifteen years ago)

lol seattle

dan m, Thursday, 17 June 2010 01:16 (fifteen years ago)

hey!

156, Thursday, 17 June 2010 01:30 (fifteen years ago)

right now: eneyeama; maicon, godin, juan, lahm; ríos, inler, muller, ozil; forlán, derdiyok

moullet, Thursday, 17 June 2010 03:51 (fifteen years ago)

Tom English OTM x 100000000000000000.

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 07:12 (fifteen years ago)

We should all put these flags on our cars.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 17 June 2010 07:59 (fifteen years ago)

Would just like to remind ppl who suggest Switzerland won't keep this up that they conceded exactly zero goals in the last WC, against France, Togo, South Korea and Ukraine. (Only team ever to complete a WC without conceding I think?)

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 17 June 2010 08:16 (fifteen years ago)

They weren't too good at pelanties, though.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 17 June 2010 08:29 (fifteen years ago)

And appalling at Pilates.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 17 June 2010 08:40 (fifteen years ago)

My typing came over all Chris Waddle, there.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 17 June 2010 08:43 (fifteen years ago)

Comedian Bernie Clifton, who plays trombone in the Pukka Pies England Band, was in hospital last night after being hit by a car in Cape Town.

Clifton was detained for X-rays after a vehicle careered round a corner in a parking lot and flattened the former Crackerjack star.

The 78-year-old was treated for shock but, in the spirit of the Great Escape, the band’s ­signature tune, still hopes to play at England’s game with Algeria tomorrow.

“I still have a better chance than Ledley King of making it for Friday,” he said. “It’s a good job I wasn’t wearing my Oswald the ostrich costume – my legs are a lot sturdier than an old bird’s drumsticks.”

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/blogs/2010-world-cup-blog/World-Cup-diary-England-Band-member-Bernie-Clifton-battered-but-not-brassed-off-By-David-McDonnell-article471947.html

James Mitchell, Thursday, 17 June 2010 09:47 (fifteen years ago)

Halfway through reading that I was trying to work out a weak ostrich gag but Bernie beat me to it.

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 09:52 (fifteen years ago)

Also my first thought was "Bernie Clifton isn't dead?"

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 09:53 (fifteen years ago)

More than that, Onimo - the message from this story is that he cannot be killed.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 17 June 2010 10:25 (fifteen years ago)

chilling

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 10:28 (fifteen years ago)

and he's publicly threatened Ledley King for good measure

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 10:29 (fifteen years ago)

Anyone thinking South Korea might spring a victory against Argentina?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 10:32 (fifteen years ago)

It's up to Bernie now.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 17 June 2010 10:35 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.gordoncree.co.uk/userimages/Ima-BernieClifton.jpg

THEY'RE READY

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 11:03 (fifteen years ago)

Damn! South Korea v Argentina! I was looking at the schedule earlier, didn't even notice that we could have game-of-the-tournament coming right up

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 11:04 (fifteen years ago)

hoping for argentina win but gutierrez to get so badly exposed by park chu young, lee chung yong etc that maradona has to drop him

nakhchivan, Thursday, 17 June 2010 11:14 (fifteen years ago)

hoping the dude with the car comes back to take out the rest of the band tbh

Oh les Beausejour (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 June 2010 11:16 (fifteen years ago)

He's too busy playing Crazy Taxi with vuvuzela dudes.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 11:17 (fifteen years ago)

Get him in for the inspirational team talk, better than that fucker James Corden.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Thursday, 17 June 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/classic/crackerjack/gallery/images/340/03.jpg

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 17 June 2010 11:25 (fifteen years ago)

nice salute from sk dude

nakhchivan, Thursday, 17 June 2010 11:27 (fifteen years ago)

this prob the best asian team in history

nakhchivan, Thursday, 17 June 2010 11:32 (fifteen years ago)

is it me or have ITV put a green rectangle by the scoreline to denote Argentina colours?

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 17 June 2010 11:39 (fifteen years ago)

looks kinda turquoise

nakhchivan, Thursday, 17 June 2010 11:41 (fifteen years ago)

demichaelis missed a sitter there. Got lucky.

pandemic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 11:47 (fifteen years ago)

At times like this I miss Ray Hudson.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 17 June 2010 11:47 (fifteen years ago)

does this game suck or what

go O and O (Ste), Thursday, 17 June 2010 11:55 (fifteen years ago)

Thatcher's legacy.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 17 June 2010 11:56 (fifteen years ago)

BE THE REDS

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 17 June 2010 11:56 (fifteen years ago)

the movement on the jabulani when it flies is horrendous at times

stofu (cozen), Thursday, 17 June 2010 11:58 (fifteen years ago)

seems like the players are getting used to the ball tho, with both argentina and sk getting to within a few feet of the bar from long range.

sk are making me :( so far. panicky & negative & not used to the full court press & can't play counter attack football. and argentina just too fast for them.

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:02 (fifteen years ago)

:(

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:02 (fifteen years ago)

offside surely

pandemic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:02 (fifteen years ago)

I stand corrected

pandemic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:03 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i did think sk would have more about them on the break

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:04 (fifteen years ago)

like use the flanks u little fuckers

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:05 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.enjoyitaewon.com/files/attach/images/417/440/IM001153.JPG

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:11 (fifteen years ago)

So close to a classic Messi goal there.

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:14 (fifteen years ago)

My god, that would've been the equal of Cambiasso in 06

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:14 (fifteen years ago)

And that tops it

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

oh yes yes yes

go O and O (Ste), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:16 (fifteen years ago)

game on

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:16 (fifteen years ago)

great finish

stofu (cozen), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:16 (fifteen years ago)

ha ha demichelis, only ever good on champ man

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:16 (fifteen years ago)

game on...oh it's half-time

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:16 (fifteen years ago)

Bolton score in the World Cup against Argentina!!

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:17 (fifteen years ago)

Oh you absolute fuckwit...

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:17 (fifteen years ago)

does tevez not get on with maradonna? noticed he was the only one that didn't get a kiss at the start

go O and O (Ste), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:17 (fifteen years ago)

i think tevez is excused kisses in general

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:18 (fifteen years ago)

He gives Maradona an affectionate nuzzle and a bite on his forearm.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:19 (fifteen years ago)

I actually called my other half in from the kitchen to watch in the middle of that move ending in Messi's chip, it was that tasty

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:19 (fifteen years ago)

does tevez not get on with maradonna? noticed he was the only one that didn't get a kiss at the start

His Mum kisses him every morning
http://i38.tinypic.com/2gx4r5w.jpg

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/

nakhchivan, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:28 (fifteen years ago)

just to get that ^ off the page

nakhchivan, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:29 (fifteen years ago)

demichelis and gutierrez are fucking waste but obv maradona has his reasons

nakhchivan, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:29 (fifteen years ago)

yikes xxp

go O and O (Ste), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:32 (fifteen years ago)

EVERYBODY CHILL THE FUCK OUT
http://putmeinthegame.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/sport-18s25-maradona-386_3681.jpg
I GOT THIS!

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:33 (fifteen years ago)

How many horrible photos of Diego does it take for anyone on ILX to take you seriously enough to sb you?

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:35 (fifteen years ago)

taken seriously as soon as you post the nude one.

what the fuck ITV, why does your stream have about ten pixels moving at about ten frames per second.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:41 (fifteen years ago)

Argentina celebrates as Guttierez is ruled out of the next match.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:42 (fifteen years ago)

he is one siavash-looking motherfucker

stofu (cozen), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:44 (fifteen years ago)

omg

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

What a game this is turning into

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

really thought that was 2-2

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

taken seriously as soon as you post the nude one.

I'd SB myself for that tbh

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

higuain has a rly strange wiki photo

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Higuain_against_Zurich_11-25-2009.jpg

nakhchivan, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:50 (fifteen years ago)

can i just get one update score wise pls, ur rubbish livebloggers

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

2-1 - both teams missing chances, about 10 shots each, Argentina bossing possession but looking flaky at the back

(this from a wee tiny window I'm checking every now and then at work)

======<() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:52 (fifteen years ago)

2-1

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:52 (fifteen years ago)

why be so aggressive towards the ballons, why?

Zeno, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:56 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, loads of near things. Doesn't quite have the intensity of a classic (yet) but it's really, really good.

Just thinking about the draw, if I've got it right this is a group to finish second in - route to the semis is Uruguay/England vs grp A also ran (i.e. France)/Germany

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:57 (fifteen years ago)

argentina have usually played better against france than uruguay in the last few years

nakhchivan, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:59 (fifteen years ago)

tip: the stream on stv.tv is holding itself together much better than the ITV one is.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:00 (fifteen years ago)

this arg defence is shit tho, and all the defensive subs maradona has brought are weak too

nakhchivan, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:00 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah South Korea are really looking as if they sniff an equaliser now.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:02 (fifteen years ago)

or not

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:03 (fifteen years ago)

lol

go O and O (Ste), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:04 (fifteen years ago)

that ended up looking terrible, but what a goal

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:04 (fifteen years ago)

all about messi

Zeno, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:04 (fifteen years ago)

slow motion hair ruffle much appreciated.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:05 (fifteen years ago)

4-1 btw

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:07 (fifteen years ago)

jings.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:07 (fifteen years ago)

beautiful

Zeno, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:08 (fifteen years ago)

beautiful!!!

pandemic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:08 (fifteen years ago)

magnificent (4-1, Higuain hattrick)

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:08 (fifteen years ago)

Higuain golden boot??

pandemic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:08 (fifteen years ago)

lol i have pipita in my fantasy team. yes!

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:08 (fifteen years ago)

This had better not somehow let Greece through on goal difference

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:10 (fifteen years ago)

Masch should pick up a second yellow and get sent off so he's alright for last 16

pandemic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:11 (fifteen years ago)

This had better not somehow let Greece through on goal difference

― Ismael Klata, Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:10 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark

God, please no.

pandemic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:11 (fifteen years ago)

More likely to let Nigeria through on goal difference I'd have thought.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:13 (fifteen years ago)

Masch should pick up a second yellow and get sent off so he's alright for last 16

― pandemic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:11 (2 minutes ago)

nakhchivan, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:13 (fifteen years ago)

yeah Greece gonna have to actually like score goals

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:14 (fifteen years ago)

If Nigeria beat Greece then that third group game suddenly becomes a make-or-break belter.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

I'd love it if we somehow wound up with an all-South-American last four

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:18 (fifteen years ago)

we going to stop moaning about how boring this World Cup is now then?

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:20 (fifteen years ago)

Sol Campbell, not mincing words:

"I wouldn't mind being out in South Africa with the England team.

"The way I have been playing for Arsenal, don't you think I should be? I do. For sure.

"Regrets? You could say that. I regret the fact that the England camp didn't think of me. I would have put my heart and soul into playing for my country again.

"I played my heart out for Arsenal again and thought it was worthy of a chance with England. It never came.

"Surely, you pick people in the groove, and I was back in the groove, and I was fit.

"Instead, Capello picked a couple of half-fit players. It fell right for them. Not for me."

Campbell added: "I can understand if Capello was thinking 'this guy is for England's past' but then he went back for a couple of players who had retired from international football.

"That I couldn't understand if he wasn't interested in going back to me.

"Not only that, Capello has gone for one centre half who didn't have a very good season, and another who just missed out on relegation.

"It's crazy when you think about it, that I would have done anything for crack at it, but never did.

"I was really, really hurt to be totally overlooked without even having an opportunity.

"I have been playing with England teams since I was 15 years old. I have won 74 England caps - been there, got the T-shirt - and it's experience that counts at this level as well."

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:20 (fifteen years ago)

For sure xp - hasn't been dull since Germany showed up tbh

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:21 (fifteen years ago)

http://i46.tinypic.com/fknx9h.jpg

James Mitchell, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:21 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah the second run of group games is going really well so far - so much less cagey.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:22 (fifteen years ago)

I think Argentina have been v good value in both matches but there have been a few dull games so far and not nearly as many goals as you'd expect in group games.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:23 (fifteen years ago)

uruguay vs. s. africa, worth downloading?

dyao, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:27 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah it's a very good game.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:28 (fifteen years ago)

it was ok, SA very poor. highlights if you can get em imo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:28 (fifteen years ago)

Yes, Forlan basically giving a master-class of how I think a World Cup #10 should play.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:31 (fifteen years ago)

fbtz is open to registration and has rapidshare etc links to all the games in 720p

nakhchivan, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:34 (fifteen years ago)

I actually think France-Mexico tonight could be a bit of a classic. Uruguay played it cautious against France in a way that I don't think Mexico will or should. Still think Benziema is better than any of the forwards lolraymond took tho'. Was hoping for a mass mutiny after the first game and Wenger to step in for the rest of the tournament.

pandemic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

Benzema hardly had a season to power him into the WC though.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

Argentina match was a relief. My greatest fear is having another Greece Euro 2004 style winning this World Cup.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:39 (fifteen years ago)

"It's crazy when you think about it, that I would have done anything for crack"

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:45 (fifteen years ago)

cheers nakh, might be time to shell out for a rapidshare account

dyao, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:48 (fifteen years ago)

Disregard anything I said upthread about Argentina lacking spark; I was wrongggg.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:51 (fifteen years ago)

apols if this was already posted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49onyg35Co4

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

According to this http://www.livesportontv.com/football/ STV HD is covering all the games including the BBC ones - how do they manage that if they're in the ITV network?

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:58 (fifteen years ago)

If Nigeria win then a draw takes them through vs. SKorea yeah?

pandemic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)

lol greece

go O and O (Ste), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

Hard to win on defensive form if you let shit like that in.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

hahaha guess that counts as the first direct free kick goal

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)

Watch Greece stubbornly play with 11 men behind the ball despite this. Shocking fucking goalkeeping.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)

xpost Well goal direct from free kick at last. Kinda.

pandemic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)

lol @ keeper again

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:19 (fifteen years ago)

not been a good few days for past champions of major competitions?

voodoo sailor (ken c), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:19 (fifteen years ago)

recent

voodoo sailor (ken c), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:19 (fifteen years ago)

Wtf kind of keeping was THAT?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

ah yes, finally i hear commentator describing something as 'food and drink', now the world cup is ON!

voodoo sailor (ken c), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

what an idiot

go O and O (Ste), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

Fool!!

pandemic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

what an arsehole

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

???

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

FOLLY

p-dog, Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

now that was stupid

Grisly Addams (WmC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

So I slept through 6 goals tomorrow but lol what a twat, y tf kick out off the field?

======() bzbzbzbzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzzbzbzbzb (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

We got all the way to the WC so I could act like a 4 year old.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

it's like chinese whispers football commentary.

pick it up a notch, someone pls

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

If Greece don't go for it now then they are irredeemable.
xpost Nigerian sent off for aiming kick at Greek player about to take a throw in

pandemic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

big sammy coming on. danger time for the nigerians.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

Sami arrivezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

that's ambiguous, why would he do that?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

because he was an arsehole!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

greek dude kind of pushed him away with the ball in both hands, and dude reacted

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

lol footballing cliches = african teams are undisciplined.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

Darragh, Nigeria completely on top at the time. Not even a bad tempered match and Greece looking pretty uninterested. Then for some reason Nigerian guy loses it for no apparent reason whatsoever.There was an innocuous challenge by half way line resulting in Greek throw in. Went to take it an guy walked about a pace off the pitch and aimed a flik/stamp at Greeks knee, didn't really make contact tho.

pandemic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

greece really going for it now

p-dog, Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

lol deflection

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

awwwwww massive deflection gives greece the equaliser

go O and O (Ste), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

darragh- deflected goal 1-1
xpost

pandemic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

Seven goals in one day - how long did it take them to rack up that many at the start of the tournament?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

lol footballing cliches = african teams are undisciplined.

Except that cliches aside, that has turned into one of the stupidest moves I've ever seen; Nigeria were quite probably going to win this.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

3.6 goals/game in the second phase of group matches!

Michael Jones, Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

What's w/Hansen and Dixon saying the ref has done the game a favor?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

Allowed Greece back into it, makes it more exciting.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

ta pandemic

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

It's incredibly disrespectful to any Nigerians watching the match and there are more diplomatic, more sporting ways of saying that it opened up the match. Some people, quite possibly millions watching the match, aren't just watching this for its entertainment value alone.

x-post

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)

entertainment value has increased somehow though tbf

voodoo sailor (ken c), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:00 (fifteen years ago)

I'd guess there are a hell of a lot more Greeks watching that panel than Nigerians. And more people watching for entertainment value than both of them. If it had been a controversial sending off then maybe, but he was an idiot.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

Actually I'm not sure anyone watches Greece for entertainment value but you get the idea.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

would love to see a mass brawl imo

voodoo sailor (ken c), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

I'd guess there are a hell of a lot more Greeks watching that panel than Nigerians.

The Nigerian population in the UK is about six times that of Greece.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

Nigerian tragedy.

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

I am not the kind to celebrate idiocy. I'll take a foul against my team gladly, but I only celebrate when our victory is clean and unambiguous. I agree that it's opened the game up but lay off w/the 'halleileuias', it's ungentlemanly.

(Can you tell that I'm rooting against Greece and want the 'anti-football' to be punished?)

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

I don't think Greece are so much anti-football as not-very-good-at-attacking. They seem to want to play but have little by way of invention/guile.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

Taiwo's just done a Stu Francis and ripped a tissue.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

Lucky he didn't crush a grape tbh.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

omg at that last 30 seconds

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

OOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGGGGG

go O and O (Ste), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

WTH

stofu (cozen), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

Wow, that's more like it.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

Crap! That would have been immense

pandemic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

best 5 seconds of football without a goal

voodoo sailor (ken c), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

Both sides deserve immediate removal from the competition after that.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

yes, too exciting, doesn't fit in with the rest of the world cup

voodoo sailor (ken c), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

Enyeama is the best goalkeeper in this world cup

Zeno, Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

^

pandemic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)

FIFA now looking into handicapping all future matches by having the 'weaker' country play with 11 vs 10.

pandemic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

kinda the opposite of how it works at old trafford iirc

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

Having the weaker team randomly and blatantly kick people helps their conspiracy somewhat.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

my stream on bbc is running like ass now for some reason.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

Greeks don't seem to understand concepts like pressure and urgency.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

Enyeama is the best goalkeeper in this world cup

Yup.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

oh no

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

fuckin greece

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

ooooh was the goalie concentrating on samaras there?

stofu (cozen), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

more like best lolkeeper. Okay maybe like third best.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

maybe i shouldnt say that...

Zeno, Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

nope

stofu (cozen), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

xps to myself

stofu (cozen), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

lol at the praise for the keeper.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

a victory for anti-football again :(

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

lol @ run of Best Keeper posts leading to that

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

I spoke too soon.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

zoiks

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

That's fucking ridiculous, that was totally down to the ball - a shot like that shouldn't be swerving like that

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

I dodged a bullet earlier when I was about to diss higuain

stofu (cozen), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

Keown critiquing Samaras' looks!

pandemic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

too much confidence for Enyeama maybe

Zeno, Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

xpost Samaras doesn't even have a big nose, does he? Keown clearly jealous of the luxurious locks.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

is there any way to watch this ON IPHONE? i downloaded the ITV FIFA app but it's showing Midsomer Murders...

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

fly to south africa
go to a game
take out your iphone
open "camera" application
point at players

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

espn 3 or some version thereof works on phones iirc

dan m, Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

It only showed up in one angle, but the ball spun about a foot, like an off-cutter xp to self. That's why the goalie went down sideways to collect and ended up batting it off his ankle. Dan or somebody upthread said they'd held the ball and it had tiny ridges all over it - might well be what gave it grip there.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

Tvcatchup.com xpost

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

It only showed up in one angle, but the ball spun about a foot, like an off-cutter xp to self. That's why the goalie went down sideways to collect and ended up batting it off his ankle. Dan or somebody upthread said they'd held the ball and it had tiny ridges all over it - might well be what gave it grip there.

this captain save a goalie is pretty funny imo.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

unusually Nigeria could still qualify if they beat S Korea and Greece lose to Argentina.

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

Argentina had better step up bigtime next match

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

"they'll be smashing plates wherever greeks are around the planet right now"

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

oh so it doesn't come to head to head result?

voodoo sailor (ken c), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

First come from behind victory and it was Greece.

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

argentina need to step up for their next match after beating the second best team in their group 4-1?

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

h so it doesn't come to head to head result?

― voodoo sailor (ken c), Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:54 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark

goal diff I think

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

o it was on BBC, nm

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

oh yeah i guess h2h wouldn't work in that situation anyway..

voodoo sailor (ken c), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

yeah h2h would apply but they'd all have the same points so gd

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

Need to step up to make sure Greece go out. I'd assumed that was asentiment we could all get behind.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

start of greece's run to the final

stofu (cozen), Thursday, 17 June 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

not even in jest

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

Greece v Switzerland final

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 17 June 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

Itv would put that on ITV4

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Thursday, 17 June 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

post by nakhchivan upthread, head to head behind goal diff and goals scored

Tie-breaking criteria

For the World Cup tournament, FIFA uses the following criteria to rank teams in the Group Stage.[71]

1. greatest number of points in all group matches;
2. goal difference in all group matches;
3. greatest number of goals scored in all group matches;
4. greatest number of points in matches between tied teams;
5. goal difference in matches between tied teams;
6. greatest number of goals scored in matches between tied teams;
7. drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee.

Greece need a three goal victory over Argentina to win the group.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

Greece breathing life into my idle dreams of winning £££££££ in the sweep.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 17 June 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

this game seriously was the height of excitement of the WC so far, as demonstrated below
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/kenjuggle3/winwinagain.jpg

voodoo sailor (ken c), Thursday, 17 June 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)

nigeria were on my coupon. THANKS GUYS!

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 June 2010 16:21 (fifteen years ago)

oh dear. don't think i can imagine how shitt u must feel right now

voodoo sailor (ken c), Thursday, 17 June 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)

o uche!

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

i haven't yet made a successful bet at this World Cup :(

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 June 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

I had England to draw on two separate accumulators (which were fucked over by other games), and in two predictions competitions (this is not the World Cup for predictors, seriously), but when it came to an actual cash money bet, did I put my money where my mouth had previously been? No I bloody did not. Bah.

I'm avoiding bookies until the knockout stages, the first week of which I will be out of the country.

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 16:27 (fifteen years ago)

i think i'm going to avoid making enyea marginal bets until I hit ha runa good results.

voodoo sailor (ken c), Thursday, 17 June 2010 16:38 (fifteen years ago)

http://i45.tinypic.com/2ntie0j.jpg

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 17 June 2010 16:39 (fifteen years ago)

http://s3.amazonaws.com/0SAJ7JN5VFAWT249NNR2.anigifdel/2ce6630d80866e3db211de93425a1f46

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:02 (fifteen years ago)

hey it's Roy, if he quietly murders Shearer then we're really onto something.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:03 (fifteen years ago)

sad for nigeria and lagerbeer today, they looked pretty good up until the karate stunt. the games are certainly getting better tho.

gourcuff out for france - mexico, no surprise i guess

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:13 (fifteen years ago)

Allez l'équipe de France
On y croit, on vous fait confiance
Foncez, rien n'est perdu
Mais... Sortez vous les doigts du cul!

James Mitchell, Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:13 (fifteen years ago)

What happened to Thierry Henry?

Virginia Plain, Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

noice from chippy and lols santos

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

lots of players rocking the skintight look at this WC

stofu (cozen), Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:35 (fifteen years ago)

The new Franny Jeffers

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

Mexicans are pissed w/ no Fernandez and w/ Perez in goal.

dan m, Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)

Brilliant first 10 mins

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)

Fernandez = Hernandez obv

dan m, Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, so far so good

xp

go O and O (Ste), Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

besides the obvious the french are a horrible bunch of individuals who deserve to get beat

Michael B, Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:43 (fifteen years ago)

France taking lessons from the Gerrard school of back passes

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

EA have been releasing scenarios to their WC game since the tournament started:

Match Day 5:
New Zealand v Slovakia
Score 1 - 1
Match time: 90+2 Minutes
Minimum Difficulty: Professional
Story:
"The All Whites have found an unexpected equalizer in added time. Can they find the back of the net one more time before the clock runs out?"

Cote d'Ivoire v Portugal
Score 0 - 0
Match Time: 65th Minute
Minimum Difficulty: World Class
Story:
"Didier Drogba has just joined the match for Côte d'Ivoire. It's been a game of few chances to this point. Will this change inspire the Elephants to victory in Port Elizabeth over 2006 semi-finalists Portugal?"

Brazil v Korea DPR
Score 2 - 1
Match Time: 88th Minute
Minimum Difficulty: Professional
Story:
"Korea DPR has just scored the most unlikely of goals, beating Julio Cesar for their first goal at a FIFA World Cup in 44 years. If they can find another it could be one of the biggest surprises in World Cup history."

Match Day 4:
Netherlands v Denmark
Score 2 -0
Match Time: 85th Minute
Minimum Difficulty: Semi-Pro
Story:
"Dirk Kuyt has just doubled the Netherlands advantage over Denmark. The Danes are just hoping to get out of this game with a point, but will need to go all out to equalize. Can they find a way to put the ball past Stekelenburg and earn a late draw?"

Japan v Cameroon
Score 1 - 0
Match Time: 79th Minute
Minimum Difficulty: Professional
Story:
"Japan seeks their first ever World Cup win away from home soil. Cameroon is looking for a winner. Japan hopes that they can defend their goal and find some breathing room by netting some insurance."

Italy v Paraguay
Score 1 - 1
Match time: 86th Minute
Minimum Difficulty: World Class
Story:
"The Azzuri arrive in South Africa looking to defend their title. Late in the game they're pressing for a goal that would likely be the winner. Simone Pepe is set to take his 3rd straight corner hoping this one will find the back of the net."

Match Day 3:
Algeria v Slovenia
Score 0 - 0
Match time: 72nd Minute
Minimum Difficulty: World Class
Story:
"Algeria's Ghezzal has just been booked for the second time in 15 minutes. Giving hope to Slovenia that they can take control of the top spot in Group C."

Serbia v Ghana
Score 0 - 0
Match time: 82nd Minute
Minimum Difficulty: Legendary
Story:
"It's the 82nd minute and the Serbian side has committed a hand ball inside the area. Asamoah Gyan steps up to the spot for the Black Stars, it could be the decisive moment that gives an African nation the first ever World Cup win on African Soil."

Germany v Australia
Score 2 - 0
Match time: 55th Minute
Minimum Difficulty: Semi-Pro
Story:
"Tim Cahill has been sent off for a clumsy challenge and Australia are in tough against the Germans who are putting on a formidable display of their football skills. Can the Socceroos correct their course in this match before time elapses?"

Match Day 2:
South Korea v Greece
Score 2-0
Match Time: 52nd Minute
Minimum difficulty: Professional
Story: "South Korea's Park Ji-Sung has just scored the 2nd goal of the match and Korea now leads 2-0. Can Greece come out of their defensive shell and win this game?"

Argentina v Nigeria
Score 0 - 0
Match Time: Match Kick-off
Minimum Difficulty: Semi-Pro
Match type: Be a Pro as Lionel Messi
Story:
"Argentina and Nigeria Kick-off in Ellis Park and Lionel Messi is ready to establish himself in the tournament. Can the holder of the Ballon d'Or add a World Cup and Golden Boot to his long list of accolades?"

England v USA
Score 1 - 1
Match Time: 79th Minute
Minimum Difficulty: World Class
Story:
"Fabio Capello has just decided to make his final substitution of the match bringing on Peter Crouch for Emile Heskey. Is this the tactical decision that will find a victory for the Three Lions?"

Match Day 1:
South Africa v Mexico
Score 1 - 1
Match time: 79th Minute
Minimum Difficulty: World Class
Story:
"Marquez has just scored for Mexico to rally back from a 1-0 deficit. South Africa carry the hopes of the nation in the first match. Can the hosts find a winner in the final 12 minutes?"

Uruguay v France
Score 0 - 0
Match Time 81st Minute
Minimum Difficulty: Semi-Pro
Story:
"Uruguay are down to 10 men after Lodeiro receives his 2nd yellow card for a tough challenge on Sagna. Can they hold on against a very good French side who are pressing for a win?"

stofu (cozen), Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:49 (fifteen years ago)

"He's looking like a gazelle that's just popped out of its mother's womb..."

Wtf?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

yeah that was bizarre

stofu (cozen), Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

ribery looks ridiculous with the short sleeves/gloves combo -- looks like he should be picking a safe or something

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

I'm loathe to agree with Shearer but what exactly is the point of Govou?

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

Mexicans are pissed w/ no Fernandez and w/ Perez in goal.

― dan m, Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:41 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

based on the amount of commercials he is in on the spanish channels, i'm surprised ochoa isn't playing.

mizzell, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

Neither side seem to have got the memo about high scoring second matches.

Popture, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

No complaints from me - this is good stuff. It's almost a must-win for Mexico I feel, could get a great finish

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

french kit is horrible with that inbuilt black/sweat outline of a vest thing going on

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

stentorian announcer.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:16 (fifteen years ago)

so Vela is a real Arsenal player after all.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

did anyone get good odds on vela being the first arsenal player injured?
xpost lol

mizzell, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

Horribly cynical from Toulalan at the end there - France don't half make it hard for you to love them

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

wibewwy

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

lol facebook update from a mexican american friend:

The France vs. Mexico game will be shown in all U.S. states except in Arizona. Instead you will see reruns of the Andy Griffith Show.

dan m, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

This feels like it's about confidence. Mexico are playing like big favourites here. France don't seem to believe they can win. Malouda, though, has been very good; but Mexico's pace is really giving France trouble, and they've noticed the back four really, really don't like it when the ball gets knocked over them.

William Bloody Swygart, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

bbc just said 'uber chilly'

go O and O (Ste), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

Also just made a terrible Gandalf Ramsey joke.

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)

Hodgson needs to be on the BBC panel more.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

lol facebook update from a mexican american friend:

The France vs. Mexico game will be shown in all U.S. states except in Arizona. Instead you will see reruns of the Andy Griffith Show.

Tbf, they don't show furrin sports, anyway.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

Between Franco and Marquez, this must be the most grimace-y team of the Cup.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:33 (fifteen years ago)

lol Henry w/ lap blanket

dan m, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, French bench needs some thermos flasks of tea

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

Jojo, met ta laine!

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

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french kit is horrible with that inbuilt black/sweat outline of a vest thing going on

― lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:12 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark

otm

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

I seriously think a present day Zidane and Viera could actually improve this team!!!

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

stentorian announcer.

― Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:16 (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I was pretty impressed that they managed to get Morbo from Futurama on board tbh

Have we done the 'if Mexico win them and Uruguay can go through with a deliberate draw' scenario upthread? I don't think I've ever seen a match where this has properly been enacted so I am sort of stoked for the madness

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

present day Guivarc'h and Platini could

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

Ha!

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

Just Fontaine warming up on the touchline

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

Those weird black tape-looking lines on the backs of the French kit are Gaultier-esque.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

^^^it's the new "Techfit" adidas shirts, allegedly they "increase power by 5%" or some such bullshit

dan m, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

Sounds like some e-mails I get.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

I'm always a little amazed when these guys are still alive - Just Fontaine is 76, that's not even that old. He even had Domenech's job for a bit - 43 years ago!

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

There was that Euro (2004?) group where a Denmark 2-2 Sweden would put Italy out and they promptly managed just that.

if, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

Lots of guys with 2-2 banners in the crowd, I believe.

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

lol announcer "blanco...a little bit of a tub."

156, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

YESSSS

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

that can't've been onside

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

Wooo

156, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

lol France

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

how was that not offside though?

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

looked miles off :/

also lol

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

*just* onside. Nice.

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

'Tape lines' a sartorial nod to groups of French schoolkids wearing backpacks on both shoulders, walking around a museum shop in a city centre near you. lots of xposts.

useless chamber, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

idk about that one

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

lol france in any event

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

Looked like he might actually have been onside.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

Should really think about putting Benzema and Nasri on now.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

onside. defender leaning at an angle of about 15 degrees to the ground makes it look like an optical illusion

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

haa

156, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

LOL, Henry

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

think it was maybe half-a-yard off at high pace - can't blame the officials there, it's not like France have been building up good karma

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

Dos Santos, another big call for Harry. Better than Bentley, certainly, prob better than Keane too.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

nah it was on, check out the feet

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

BBC paused it with the line across the screen - he was on.

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

Can only imagine how satisfying this must be for you lot

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

ESPN paused it, too, and it looked, footwise, like it was perfectly timed.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

Think of it as the payback for the hand of Gaul.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

The deliberate draw thing happened in 2002 I think, also involving Mexico I think.

How can a defence of Gallas, Evra, Abidal and Sagna be so bad? Gallas has looked like he's been trying to concede all night.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

http://i50.tinypic.com/33mpnqg.jpg

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

Thank you, Jordan.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)

i can separate my revengelust on gallas/henry from the french team, but tbh they're a tough outfit to like with domenech in charge wasting all that talent.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

why is zidane such an asshole

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

did someone already make a 400 blows joke?

iatee, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

oooh shit

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

lol x 2

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

oh please let blanco take this, his run-ups are hilarious

dan m, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

ba ba ba daaa!

156, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

hahahahaha

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

oh man

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

ah that's not a peno surely

going down already

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

Ha ha, Abidal, you oaf.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

abidalmao

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

i vote goal

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

great fuckin run though

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

but tbh they're a tough outfit to like with domenech in charge wasting all that talent.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

snap

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

2 for 0 in penalty kick votes woo

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

2 out of 2 for onimopredictions (please do this next season at Celtic Park kthanxbye)

xpost!

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

listen to that roar!

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

France getting exactly what they deserve.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH gutted.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

dude needs a funky dance a la R Milla instead of just being a bit dumpy

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

also he should defintely care what I think

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

keep attacking, Mexico - none of this sitting back shit

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

If they can get to 3-0, their draw with Uruguay will put them top rather than second.

if, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

Bwwwwaaahahahahaahahahahah!!!

VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

he usually does this xposts

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/soccer_redcard/images/2008/10/30/blanco.jpg

dan m, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

kind of wish I was at home so I could hear mex fans up and down the street cheering

dan m, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

Tomorrow's Daily Mirror: "Arsenal lose the World Cup".

James Mitchell, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

Needs to end with the players all surrounding Domenech and wailing at him.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

Did I spy Arsene Wenger in a commentary box earlier?

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

indeed you did

dan m, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

Yes, ticking an injured player off his list.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

French tv get Wenger we get Mark Bright

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

France, like Spain yesterday, seem to think that this is about possession as opposed to scoring and now they just look petulant. If it's going to be about that, they should just bring on Henry.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

French tv get Wenger we get Mark Bright

Yes, but can Arsene see?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

love how they always find a Mexican in a wrestling mask

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

David Moyes in the townships! What have they done to deserve that?

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

Going to miss singing Ooh La La by Goldfrapp every time Toulalan gets the ball though :-/

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

They'll be dancing on the streets of Irishland tonight.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

http://i50.tinypic.com/35m1szs.jpg

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

Coatbridge?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

would mexico-uruguay actually purposefully play to draw so that both are certain to get in?

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

yes

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

possibly. it's been done before.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

Dunno surely they want to avoid Argentina?

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

^^^

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

Worth it for the lols though

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

I remember the results mentioned a bit up there (w/ a memory jog) but not the games - West Germany-Austria in 82 is the benchmark for the incident-free farce in this situation, is that right?

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

hahaha bright - "don't go out like suckaz"

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

Even a two goal loss enough to go through unless France get 3+

if, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)

Hah it has its own wiki xp to self

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, man, it couldn't happen to a better coach.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

Alan Shearer missed the Aussie game.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

SA are rubbish but still not rubbish enough that france would put 3 past them

lol at classy french supporters

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

Please let's have Domenech take over at Liverpool.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

glad to see a concacaf team finally win one in this tournament

156, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

Kind of respect Shearer a bit for the savaging he's giving France here.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

espn have klinsmann? and efan ekoku? watching the next world cup on this channel.

caek, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

mcmanaman savaging france here, but no real bit to it.

caek, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

Klinsmann's putting it about a bit if he's on ESPN as well.

xpost

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

I have nothing to add except: Heee heee hee!!! LOL FRANCE

VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

Honduras really letting the new world down here imo

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

as long as france go out, this whole world cup will have been worthwhile

caek, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

will i ever see ribery's ugly mug again y/n

mookieproof, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

was this the best day of the world cup so far?

caek, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

yes

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, because it's the first time I forgot to record the games before I went to work :-/

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

espn have klinsmann? and efan ekoku? watching the next world cup on this channel.

and roberto martinez. and ruud gulit. and some guy that used to play for SA. and LALAS.

dan m, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

and here comes the U2

dan m, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

Kind of respect Shearer a bit for the savaging he's giving France here.

I suppose he knows something about managing lazy overpaid superstars with no team spirit who don't put in the effort to get results and end up flailing heartlessly out of a competition.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

god, fuck bono so hard

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

slept through the first two games but think i will torrent them. missed the first half of the france game because a lightning storm took out our satellite for half an hour (and our drinking water for the day).

caek, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

srsly the number of non-soccer-fan friends I have who have been watching games and all said "I should have known U2 would be involved in this" is up to like 7 or 8 now

dan m, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

dan, is there anywhere legal i can watch replays of the games, or do i need to torrent?

caek, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

I suppose he knows something about managing lazy overpaid superstars with no team spirit who don't put in the effort to get results and end up flailing heartlessly out of a competition.

Btw, drinking tequila right now. Bring on Laurent Blanc already.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

lol blatant dive for the peno but still a penalty irregardless

stofu (cozen), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

That streets have no name thing w/the SA's singing along is sub-Paul Simon patronizing

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

Irregardless?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

do you guys get espn3.com in england? if so, you can stream the games after the fact

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless

stofu (cozen), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

check if your internet provider allows espn3, it's seriously the shit. you can watch every game live or replayed in like 5 different languages. also the TV espns have been showing replays at like 9PM central, so has univision and one of the other spanish-language channels.

dan m, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

Haha yeah xp, my first thought was dive too - textbook in how to make a genuine penalty look dodgy

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

One more encore for this, because it is such genius:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANEBm7Ex1jw

James Mitchell, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

don't get it in Scotland. I'm sure there's a proxy way round it, but I can't be arsed, tbh.

xposts re espn

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

I have been stanning for espn3 since it debuted, somewhat embarrassingly at times

dan m, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:36 (fifteen years ago)

yeah it's somehow the one thing that espn has gotten completely right

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)

Oh god, Shearer

MPx4A, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

O Christ no

MPx4A, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

"So segregation, how did you like that?" wtf Shearer AAARRGGGHHH!!!

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

"So segregation how did you feel about it?"

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

Oh God, I turned over for a bit, are they really letting Alan Shearer be sensitive and understanding BBC outreach dude?

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

xpost

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

Amazing - this has got to be made into a series

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

"Dunno what they're complaining about, this place looks alright compared with parts of Newcastle and the stadiums are nicer than St James' Park."

James Mitchell, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

Can't believe I missed the start of this!

"I'm not laughing" - no shit, you weird humour-free freak

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)

"It was like 1994 again?"
"Wow, it was that big a feeling?"

[note: Shearer thinks she is talking about USA 94]

MPx4A, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)

This everyone at the BBC getting their own back on Shearer, right? Even Lineker slipped in that he had to have a guide

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

Man, someone please commission a series of this.

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)

- ...he was murdered.

- tough time for you and yer family eh?

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)

Next Shearer from the West Bank.Gazza to Gaza

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:45 (fifteen years ago)

Please post this as soon as it turns up on YouTube, I've stopped watching.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)

Life Under The Taliban - "Strict disciplinarians then, bit like Sir Alex?"

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)

Had to run to hit the off button when I saw Shearer being lined up for the social history bit - now wishing I'd seen it...

Stevie T, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

Still, her brother was murdered, tough old time, but hey, there's a World Cup, she might get a singing gig out of it.

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

Danny Baker basically like a rabid bulldog being thrown into an Amish tea party here

MPx4A, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

Danny Baker brings some sense, points out plausible scenario whereby France could go through. Shearer: "have you been drinking?"

xpost

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

um, not really an xpost. i have no idea what i'm on about. shearer has broken my brain.

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

thanks jordan, dan.

jordan: i'm in the us until the weekend. wanted to make sure i heard from efan ekoku and russell brand more in my world cup analysis, so made the trip over.

caek, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

Baker basically just treating it like he's in the pub is basically the best piece of punditry BBC have shown

MPx4A, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

Shearer still failing to understand that people can be enthusiastic about this World Cup, the boring old bastard. Put Danny Baker on dis ting pronto.

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

better than effin shearer

xp

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

^ hey, we've hit on a definition of "damning with faint praise"!

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)

Baker single-handedly justifying entire BBC jolly to the southern hemisphere. Maybe they should've just sent him and a couple of the other Five Live guys and left it at that.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

Speaking of Danny Baker, whatever happened to Danny Kelly? I get the feeling he's probably been reduced to liveblogging games on Twitter.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

He has a show on TalkSport, apparently. Thanks, Google!

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

LOLfact from Norwegian analysis team on tv: Cuauhtemoc Blanco ran as far in 30 minutes as Anelka did in 45!

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:05 (fifteen years ago)

back from the pub - so these guys are basically just waiting to go on holidays really. still after all these domenech years, i can't quite comprehend how such individual talent can get to such pathetic waste. team sport, innit. i'm probably the only france supporter on ilx, but still, "bon débarras"

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:05 (fifteen years ago)

Baad, I support them but I cannot support Domenech.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

Gonna stop lolling at France now because I've just remembered England are playing tomorrow.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, i was basically supporting france, if only because i like france, in general, and because i'm not sure if USians are supposed to hate the mexican team or embrace them

flapjackin (gbx), Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:11 (fifteen years ago)

I love Mexico but, man, is there bad blood between our teams.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:14 (fifteen years ago)

^^^cosign

dan m, Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

that's what i thought

flapjackin (gbx), Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)

Higuain's miles clear in the top scorer odds at about 2/1. Probably rightly so, but next-bests Klose and Forlan both look decent bets at 11/1 or so. David Villa maybe not so much right now. Dempsey at 200/1 seems absurdly generous - unlikely maybe, but not *that* unlikely?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:22 (fifteen years ago)

Baker was class - feels like the bosses were trying to shake things up maybe. Should be on more...but I guess that's the difference between journalists turned TV/radio personalities and ex-players right there.

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

I imagine tht tom english article got some play on twitter, not sure if that feeds back at all tho

stofu (cozen), Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:48 (fifteen years ago)

feel sorry for the French fans putting up with this, but not the team/Domenach. good riddance. Baker's claim that they are capable of scoring 3 goals against South Africa is "optimistic", and I can't see Mexico losing to Uruguay by more than one goal but that really ought to be a classic (who wants to avoid Argentina more?).

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

shearer's booth status is so incomprehensible to me - i get that he was a great player for a long time but its still hard for me to fathom that he was given the keys to all of tv so instantly without displaying any presentation skills at all - hard to imagine that say David James (whom I'd far rather watch) would receive anything like the same treatment

Gravel Puzzleworth, Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

maybe D James is the England squad's personal pundit - he presents a highlights package of the day's games at the end of training - does amazing things for morale

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:56 (fifteen years ago)

David James will be a pundit within weeks of his retirement, it's so obvious.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:04 (fifteen years ago)

David James will be a pundit within weeks of his retirement, it's so obvious.

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:16 (fifteen years ago)

I think James & Rio would do fine jobs. I'd actually like to see Rooney give it a go one day, but I doubt he'd be interested in that. My big fear is that John Terry gets the keys next.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:18 (fifteen years ago)

AFAIK Carragher is the proverbial "student of the game" as to whether he would actually be insightful I don't know. In his presser this week when asked about Italy he at least managed to know that Cassano had been omitted from the squad.

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:21 (fifteen years ago)

Watched the last game in a bar and then walked down York Blvd. in Highland Park with my friend in a France shirt. Major LOLs. I love the Mexican fans.

admrl, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago)

surprised Sheringham hasn't pundited more what with his incredible football brain.

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

xp hey adam!

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

hello you

admrl, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

thought baker was a moron, am surprised people disagreed. his "france will go through" but "spain will go out, they have fear now" made no sense whatsoever. and "germany won't concede even a corner..", yeah cos god knows the team that tonks someone 4-0 in their opening game always maintains such form throughout...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)

Non-po-faced pub punditry was EXACTLY what was needed to break up the Lineker/Shearer/Hansen/Seedorf axis of boredom. Him and Roy Hodgson was pretty much what the panel format has been missing - reasoned analysis from one and exuberant STFU-you-boring-fuckers ridiculousness from the other.

ailsa, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:35 (fifteen years ago)

carragher in student-of-the-game interviews i've read seemed too narked at crap players being crap (paradoxically enough, eh eh) to ever be an intelligible pundit. basically i think he just plays champ man and maybe spods over world soccer every now and then.

the few times sheringham's done punditry he really has shown up the old football brain thing yeah - first 5 yards of dull platitudes already in his head etc

haha, i was totally waiting for garda and noodles to bring the anti-bakerism.

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:35 (fifteen years ago)

seedorf is quality, god they need an o'neill to light seedorf's fuse, everything he says (including the s africa comments which raised the question of why on earth seedorf wasn't doing that piece) is really thought out. he asks questions and disagrees with people.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:39 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, interesting considering he was generally thought of as a massive pain in the arse in his younger days (iirc?)

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i think that's true actually, wasn't it seedorf who left euro 96? or maybe world cup 98? he's obv massively a media whore the last year or two but he's a good talker. would be happy to see him as a regular pundit.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:46 (fifteen years ago)

Watched the last game in a bar and then walked down York Blvd. in Highland Park with my friend in a France shirt. Major LOLs. I love the Mexican fans.

― admrl, Thursday, June 17, 2010 6:23 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

loling at the idea of this

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:50 (fifteen years ago)

i watched the last world cup in highland park adam!

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:50 (fifteen years ago)

not at the york tho, at my house, which was in highland park

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:50 (fifteen years ago)

As an American, I kind of like Hansen, 'cause he's such an out and out, no-holes-barred, bastard about saying teams are shite or dull. He's entertaining which, TV-wise, is better than smart or nice or insightful, though I'm sure Brits may find it tedious.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:51 (fifteen years ago)

xxxp well the rumours go that the older white bloc in the dutch at the time werent fond of seedorf, kluivert, bogarde etc "asking questions and disagreeing with people" so who knows if he was ever even a dick tbh

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:52 (fifteen years ago)

I sort of like Hansen but only if he's actually analysing and not whinging about being bored. Actually think Lineker has become part of the problem, he doesn't ask many sincere questions anymore.

x-post yeah I remember that was sort of the story...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:52 (fifteen years ago)

Lineker is just too this facial expression

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/ilxor.com/

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

Hi Max

admrl, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:03 (fifteen years ago)

thought baker was a moron, am surprised people disagreed. his "france will go through" but "spain will go out, they have fear now" made no sense whatsoever. and "germany won't concede even a corner..", yeah cos god knows the team that tonks someone 4-0 in their opening game always maintains such form throughout...

It wasn't the content of what he said, it was the punchy banterishness of it. Completely shredded the soggy blanket of Shearer-led consensual torpor. I would much rather hear Baker be hilariously wrong than any of the rest of them be sort of, more or less, obviously, tediously, in-the-right-ball-park correct.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:13 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, I think that nails it, and he seemed sort of gleefully aware that he was being a bit wacky challops

MPx4A, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:17 (fifteen years ago)

well...maybe it's an english thing but my friend and I just looked at each other like "wtf is this fool talking about." he's not as bad as shearer but he would be more annoying if he was on regularly.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:20 (fifteen years ago)

Seem to remember when O'Neill was the resident long winded maverick, he was also inexplicably pro-France

MPx4A, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:22 (fifteen years ago)

or was it anti-France

MPx4A, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:22 (fifteen years ago)

No he was pro, he would come up with wild theories about how they could actually win it all and I believed him ;_;

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:25 (fifteen years ago)

totally different topic but....can we discuss North Korea?

1. how were they allowed in when yugoslavia got kicked out of euro 92
2. how are they stopping the players that don't play in N Korea from spilling the beans about the homeland?

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:36 (fifteen years ago)

Dame Edna lined up for tomorrow's post-match analysis

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:37 (fifteen years ago)

lol tracer's link reminds me that I was sort of wishing for someone to do a whiney-style embed of vuvuzelas itt.

dyao, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:45 (fifteen years ago)

NK reminded me of the young Japanese pilot from Empire of the Sun.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:47 (fifteen years ago)

Ronan: not sure about #1, but I suspect none of the UNSC resolutions concerning DPRK specifically recommend curtailing cultural or sporting links with that country, whereas resolution 752 (or was it 757?) regarding the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia back in '92 very precisely stated that member states should not allow anyone representing FRY to participate in sporting events on their territory. Now, why there's that distinction, I dunno.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:54 (fifteen years ago)

lol tracer's link reminds me that I was sort of wishing for someone to do a whiney-style embed of vuvuzelas itt.

― dyao, Thursday, June 17, 2010 6:45 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

dude they are everywhere. went in to talk to a somali patient about his physical therapy and they were watching the nigeria game and the whole conversation took place via translation and with vuvuzelas honking in the background. totally zurreal

flapjackin (gbx), Friday, 18 June 2010 01:01 (fifteen years ago)

I've been working on some kind of 'princess vuvuzeila' pun on a while now, but can't quite make it work. offering it up!

dyao, Friday, 18 June 2010 01:04 (fifteen years ago)

Here's an insane story. I feel like something's missing though. They murdered their father/husband because he didn't want to watch a religious TV show?! How pious.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/5297052/ce/us/south-african-man-killed-wife-kids-changing-tv-germany-australia-game?cc=5901&ver=us

Join the Gothscene! Join for free! Gothscene.com (Whitey on the Moon), Friday, 18 June 2010 03:02 (fifteen years ago)

http://unprofessionalfoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/232x271.jpg

156, Friday, 18 June 2010 06:52 (fifteen years ago)

i'm drunk but i'm getting up in four and a half hours to watch germany and serbia!

k let's get serious:

buddle starts next to jozy
torres instead of clark
herculez subs on
PROFIT

156, Friday, 18 June 2010 06:57 (fifteen years ago)

Horrible horrible night yesterday. That French defeat was kind of expected amongst me and my friends but seeing it for real was awful. We did have a great drinking game "where's Anelka?". if you spot him out of position, drink. needless to say even though he only played one half we were completely drunk. Still don't understand why he started the game since he hasn't been good as single forward since for ever. Still despise the fact that this French team is so torn by major egos that they can't manage to play together and decided to take Gourcuff off the field because some players didn't like him. Gladly looking forward to the Laurent Blanc era. He should get rid of Gallas, Henry, Anelka, Govou and a couple more players. And even though I really hate Domenech, I couldn't help but feel bad for him during his postgame interview, he looked so helpless and sounded so desperate, like he really couldn't understand what had happened. Anyways, bring on the WC, I just hope that it won't be won by Italy or Brazil.

Jibe, Friday, 18 June 2010 07:47 (fifteen years ago)

Probably shouldn't have brought on Adam Buxton as a sub:

http://stbjp.msn.com/i/CA/A2B4F061EBA61EAB15333C48C3C9.jpg

James Mitchell, Friday, 18 June 2010 07:52 (fifteen years ago)

anelka was a disgrace. playing defensive midfield half of the time. this morning's press review is pretty tasty I have to say...

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 18 June 2010 08:04 (fifteen years ago)

I love France - they are either wonderful or awful, never in-between, and it's great fun for the rest of us either way.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 08:23 (fifteen years ago)

I can't think of anyone else like them in football. Man City maybe, if they ever had any highs. Pakistan at cricket is the nearest I can get.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 08:30 (fifteen years ago)

LATEST: David James to start in goal for England tonight. More details soon …

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 18 June 2010 08:31 (fifteen years ago)

for mac users - http://www.rogueamoeba.com/utm/2010/06/16/quiet-those-vuvuzelas-with-vuvux-audio-hijack-pro/

stofu (cozen), Friday, 18 June 2010 08:32 (fifteen years ago)

I can't think of anyone else like them in football.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/5/26/1243336701767/Newcastle-fans-at-the-end-002.jpg

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 08:32 (fifteen years ago)

I just removed the picture of a load of fat half-naked Geordies for fear of unleashing the wrath of the Suggest Banning hordes.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 08:33 (fifteen years ago)

Anelka cannot play the No 9 role anymore, he loves to come deep to find the ball. he can do that for chelsea cos he has Drog in front of him and Lampard coming through the middle, but it was a disaster for France. Anybody who has watched Anelka regularly over the last season and a half should know this, which begs the queston of what the coach is playing at.

So England have decided to pick their best keeper this time. It'll never catch on.

France have been great value this World Cup, cheating the Irish in qualifying and then being really shit themselves. Couldn't really ask for more.

Pete W, Friday, 18 June 2010 08:47 (fifteen years ago)

SBans count for mods now, eh?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 08:47 (fifteen years ago)

Domenech looking desperate and not having a clue what's happened- every post-match ever, though?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 08:48 (fifteen years ago)

Anelka cannot play the No 9 role anymore, he loves to come deep to find the ball. he can do that for chelsea cos he has Drog in front of him and Lampard coming through the middle, but it was a disaster for France. Anybody who has watched Anelka regularly over the last season and a half should know this, which begs the queston of what the coach is playing at.

This is true except Anelka seems to score most of his goals when Drogba's not in the team.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 08:52 (fifteen years ago)

So England have decided to pick their best keeper this time.

Second best but Hart doesn't have the international experience tbf

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 June 2010 08:52 (fifteen years ago)

No doubt in my mind that Green needs dropping tho, bollocks to "rehabilitation".

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 June 2010 08:53 (fifteen years ago)

But only against piss weak teams or when playing in a 4-4-2.

Pete W, Friday, 18 June 2010 08:53 (fifteen years ago)

That's an x-post to Matt.

Pete W, Friday, 18 June 2010 08:53 (fifteen years ago)

But didn't Anelka hit his best form during the African Nations Cup when Drogba and Kalou were both off? Admittedly he was supported by Frank Lampard and not Ribery played out of position, but since the Mexican defence isn't exactly world class that's not really an excuse.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 09:07 (fifteen years ago)

and also since lampard, as a provider, isn't really all that

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 09:15 (fifteen years ago)

I was hoping you wouldn't point out this flaw in my thinking.

Although in January we played: Watford, Sunderland, Preston, Birmingham and Burnley. Hardly world class opposition. Anelka played brilliantly pretty much all season it should be said, just not so much as a No 9 unless Lampard and Malouda were in top form. If Ribery ever turned up and Malouda wasn't treated so badly, it might have worked for France but Nico is much better as a support striker these days - in fact, he's one of the best support strikers in the world. Him and Rooney would be devestating.

x-post

Is this the Lampard who consistently creates more goalscoring opportunities than any other player in the premier league? More than Fabregas, more than Gerrard, more than Malouda, more than, cough, Modric?

Pete W, Friday, 18 June 2010 09:16 (fifteen years ago)

No excuses. I think anelka simply couldn't be bothered. Trotting most of the time, miles away from the goal area. Weird for someone playing his first and last WC

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 18 June 2010 09:17 (fifteen years ago)

and also since lampard, as a provider, isn't really all that

For Chelsea? Bollocks.

I was hoping you wouldn't point out this flaw in my thinking.

No you were supposed you mention that he was playing up alongside Dean Sturridge and I was going to make a joke about not knowing he had gone to Chelsea. Can't get the service these days.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 09:19 (fifteen years ago)

I'm shit at memes.

x-post

People often accuse of Anelka not being bothered. I think it's bullshit, his body language makes it look like he can't be arsed but he's no slacker.

Pete W, Friday, 18 June 2010 09:22 (fifteen years ago)

The odyssey begins: Four North Korean Players Missing

young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 18 June 2010 09:22 (fifteen years ago)

Bad show, they could've maybe got the draw if those guys had been available.

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 June 2010 09:24 (fifteen years ago)

Higuain in the Membrane

Kudos.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 09:26 (fifteen years ago)

I thought Hodgson nailed the French problem last night with 'square pegs/round holes' - they changed the system to put Ribery out of position in the hole and he was clearly uncomfortable and didn't know quite where to go. Anelka kept coming deep because he's exactly the kind of player they were trying to make Ribery meaning they effectively had no strikers.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 09:27 (fifteen years ago)

Local Garda otm about Baker being all kinds of wrong. I get what people are saying about his pub bloke enthusiasm but for that level of insight ("France will reach the quarter finals!") you may as well have dragged any old sot out of the pub. I reckon three matches of over-enthusiastic loud blokey mateyness and we'd all be pining for a disinterested Lawro.

Hogson need to stay in though - so refreshing to have someone who understands what it takes to put an effective team out on the pitch.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 09:31 (fifteen years ago)

Hodgson's accent still confuses the shit out of me. What is it exactly?

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 18 June 2010 09:32 (fifteen years ago)

Swiss

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 09:33 (fifteen years ago)

(actually South London with a speech impediment)

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 09:34 (fifteen years ago)

I'm slightly less irritated by Danny Baker on the radio this go round, some of his more serious stuff is actually insightful, but his over-reliance on twee "amusing" observations is brutal in most doses, and it often comes across as kind of dismissive of the football in general. Which is fine, just go and do it somewhere that isn't football coverage.

That said, the guy who suggested "Totalitarianism has its advantages" as a chant for N Korea the other night was doing sterling work.

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 June 2010 09:35 (fifteen years ago)

Baddiel and Skinner's Fantasy Football shtick, for all its downsides, at least felt like the observations you make when you're watching a game. A lot of Baker's stuff reminds me of the NME in the 80s when football became an affection for C86rs to be into for 5 minutes.

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 June 2010 09:37 (fifteen years ago)

Nah hang on, I'm over-theorizing. He's just not very funny.

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 June 2010 09:39 (fifteen years ago)

And even though I really hate Domenech, I couldn't help but feel bad for him during his postgame interview, he looked so helpless and sounded so desperate, like he really couldn't understand what had happened. Anyways, bring on the WC, I just hope that it won't be won by Italy or Brazil.

― Jibe, Friday, 18 June 2010 08:47 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

why did the french football federation keep him for so long? and not let blanc take over before the world cup

nakhchivan, Friday, 18 June 2010 09:42 (fifteen years ago)

Domenech looking desperate and not having a clue what's happened- every post-match ever, though?

No he usually makes fun of the guy interviewing him, gives snide responses to the usual stupid post-game questions etc. It is really unusual to see him so hapless.

Also, wrt to Ribéry, he was played out of position because he fucking wanted it! He was awful on the left wing btw, the position he's claimed for ages is where he plays best. He was put there in place of Malouda (who dropped a bit lower on the field or was left on the bench) who, imo, deserves that spot a whole lot more. Then, Ribéry forced Domenech's hand (along with a few other players) and made him take Gourcuff off. And in such a case, Ribéry is our only player who could kinda take control of the game (we saw the brilliant result that was). As for Aneka, I'm sorry but he decidedly did not give a shit. He may great at Chelsea, but I've hardly seen him do anything while playing for France. Honestly, the dude was nowhere near the box during the game, he kept on dropping down to midfield, sometimes level with Toulalan, which is just wtf! I know he' used to doing that for Chelsea, and that Domenech really shouldn't have put him as lone forward, but I'm also pretty sure Domenech told him to stay upfront and play like a lone striker. Also pretty sure Domenech didn't tell him to half-ass it all along. i'm really not a fan of Domenech, far from it, but the blame also lies on Anelka (a lot), Ribéry (who seemed to forget that football is a team game, which means you have teammates to whom you can pass. He had, AGAIN, an awful game, something like 40 balls touched, 28 lost or some shit like that) and a few others.

Fuck, following this French team is awful! Really hope Gourcuff turns out to be a great player since France can't seem to be good without an amazing player (Platini, Zidane etc).

Glad that there are still a few likable players in this team though: Toulalan is awesome, love the dude, he just plays and does what is expected of him. The yellow card he got yesterday should have been given to Anelka for his lame freekick that forced Toulalan to commit that foul. Lloris is great too, really couldn't do much yesterday and did save a few risky situations. Really love those two players.

Jibe, Friday, 18 June 2010 09:45 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah I wanna love Ribéry but he's been playing like a complete ass for ages now - hype has totally gone to his head.

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 June 2010 09:48 (fifteen years ago)

to nakhchivan: had he been replaced, it would probably have been by a coach who had the favors of France 98 players. And for some weird reason, there's a power struggle going on between the Fédération Française de Football, who appoints the coach, and those players that won the World Cup. And the FFF really didn't have any credible potential coaches so instead of giving away this job they kept Domenech in place. Lot of good that did them! He's despised by just about the whole of France, the FFF are looked upon as even more incompetent fools, a France 98-approved coach is coming on (and the transition has been done in horrible manner, with the announcement being made while Blanc was still coaching Bordeaux, before the WC to trouble the players even more etc), and France 98 players have even more power. Tbf tho, Fr98 players are just about everywhere in the news and fucking annoying.

Jibe, Friday, 18 June 2010 09:50 (fifteen years ago)

the 1966 players are kind of annoying too but at least they just do ads and inane punditry - that sounds like some next-level stuff you've got going on there

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 09:53 (fifteen years ago)

Really? I can't think of any of the '66 dudes who've actively been annoying, they're usually pretty decent interviewees too.

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 June 2010 09:55 (fifteen years ago)

Christ help us if the current bunch ever win anything tho

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 June 2010 09:56 (fifteen years ago)

Is this the Lampard who consistently creates more goalscoring opportunities than any other player in the premier league? More than Fabregas, more than Gerrard, more than Malouda, more than, cough, Modric?

is that the same as assists, or is it a very specific stat for something else?

Modric plays with r keane, j defoe, p crouch a lot of the time, he's doing ok!

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 09:56 (fifteen years ago)

Sunday 27 June, 11.15am; repeated Friday 2 July, 9.00am.

Former England and Arsenal football team captain Tony Adams joins Kirsty Young to choose his Desert Island Discs.

Will expect he'll be picking 'Donkey' by CSS and some Jimmy Nail. Luxury item will be an airbag.

James Mitchell, Friday, 18 June 2010 09:58 (fifteen years ago)

the 98 clique may have too much influence but seeing the clairefontaine generation (iykwim) of anelka, henry, gallas give up the ghost does show how well zidane, thuram, etc did last time in dragging the team to within one trezemiss of glory

there is plenty of talent for blanc to be getting on with, i'm not sure why gourcuff became ostracized but i suppose blanc will resinstate him, and then there are the likes of sissoko, sakho, remy maybe? and gignac, diaby, benzema, ben arfa, l diarra etc......some of whom shd be great players in the next few years

nakhchivan, Friday, 18 June 2010 10:02 (fifteen years ago)

Commentary fuck-up of the tournament so far, via Danger Here]:

Whatever aversion to research we witness on these shores, it’s nothing to the corner Serbian commentator Vladimir Mijaljevic painted himself into when previewing his country’s clash with Germany:

“Neuer is in goal, because Enke can not play. He is hurt,” announced Vladimir to general shock. Enke, of course, tragically passed away last November.

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 18 June 2010 10:03 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah I never, ever understood announcing Blanc before the World Cup. I'm trying to think of a sport or even a non-sport situation where it would be desirable, or even minimally acceptable, to announce the future firing of somebody right before a big project.

From all the Youtube clips I've seen of Gourcuff the guy seems incredible. Has anyone ever figured out why he seems shunned? Is it some kind of weird bullying? With a weak coach that can happen.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 10:06 (fifteen years ago)

xxp yeah i'd not write off this or the next generation of french players, from watching them throughout the group stages the problems could really be laid at domenech's door for his selections and general management. big clearout of the current lot needed though.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 10:07 (fifteen years ago)

Tracer- The French FA had to announce that Domenech was going to be sacked because he was so unbelievably unpopular. They'd have had revolt before the WC if they didn't let it slip that he'd be gone immediately.

Course, it begs the question as to why they gave him a contract extension after struggling through a relatively soft group.

Open to correction on this from Jibe et al, but I think just about everyone wanted the bum out.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 10:09 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, plenty of talent for Blanc to deal with. Gourcuff becoming ostracized is very wtf but whatever. He's too nice and not enough ego to get along/make himself respected by the big boys (Ribéry, Anelka, Malouda also apparently). Also, and this is really pure speculation, but I wonder if the fact that he plays for "lowly" Bordeaux, yet is told to be France's playmaker doesn't get on the nerves of those playing for Chelsea/Bayern etc (again, pure speculation... then again this is also the team that had Nasri benched and kept away from the selection for having taken Henry's seat in the bus (ok + maybe other reasons too^^)).
Also, while a year ago telling me that Blanc would become France's new coach would have me ecstatic, today I don't know. The way he handled his team's slump frm january onwards was kind of terrible, all putting the blame on his players, the physician, but never on himself. Hope he can deal with all media coverage, the big egos etc.

Jibe, Friday, 18 June 2010 10:10 (fifteen years ago)

The way he handled his team's slump frm january onwards was kind of terrible, all putting the blame on his players, the physician, but never on himself

Hey, the best manager in the world has this as a modus operandi so that's a good sign, right?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 10:12 (fifteen years ago)

Following the England 06 masterplan innit

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 10:13 (fifteen years ago)

The French FA didn't have to announce it, everybody knew that after this WC Domenech would be gone. Just about everybody hates him yeah (in fact there was an article the other day about his brother who's also a coach for a 12th division women's team or something, who took a lot of shit because of that... poor guy!). Anyways, the French FA handled the situation quite poorly overall. They fucked Bordeaux's season even more, they kept Domenech for 2 yrs too many etc.

Jibe, Friday, 18 June 2010 10:13 (fifteen years ago)

we need this kind of passionate commentary tonight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc1H2hOHu_s

stofu (cozen), Friday, 18 June 2010 10:19 (fifteen years ago)

DENNIS BERGKAMP!DENNIS BERGKAMP!DENNIS BERGKAMP!DENNIS BERGKAMP!
huge lols

Jibe, Friday, 18 June 2010 10:23 (fifteen years ago)

Also kept hearing it as Danish beercamp. Dunno what that is, but it sounds good to me.

Jibe, Friday, 18 June 2010 10:24 (fifteen years ago)

Gonna break a habit and watch England in the pub tonite. Not because I want to watch England in the pub but it's Friday dammit and I'm going out whatever.

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 June 2010 10:27 (fifteen years ago)

PEDIGREE! PEDIGREE! PEDIGREE!

voodoo sailor (ken c), Friday, 18 June 2010 10:28 (fifteen years ago)

Will have to remember not to cheer Guedioura if he gets a game.

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 June 2010 10:29 (fifteen years ago)

watching first half in house and second half in pub, not sure i'm happy about that.

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 10:29 (fifteen years ago)

"This morning, France contemplates a field of ruins: its national team.

"The 'Je-m'en-foutisme' ('I don't give a damn-ism') is their flag, the only banner this team can carry together.

"Let's mock Raymond Domenech, so full of himself, overcome by his players' egos.

"Laugh about these major players Franck Ribery, William Gallas, Nicolas Anelka, who believe themselves so superior, and their arrogance.

"Supported by a federation who should wear a headless chicken as a symbol, they deserve indifference."

<3 French football coverage if that's indicative. Zola's j'accuse to Dunphy's pithy Séan O'Casey

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 10:36 (fifteen years ago)

If we fuck up tonight, how long until fez pictures in the tabloids?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/08/article-0-04DD27AB000005DC-393_233x423.jpg

Dr.C, Friday, 18 June 2010 10:38 (fifteen years ago)

Too clever

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 June 2010 10:38 (fifteen years ago)

not clumsy enough, either

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 10:41 (fifteen years ago)

I'm thinking picture of failed England player/manager with cock Photoshopped on forehead.

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 June 2010 10:44 (fifteen years ago)

ashley?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 10:45 (fifteen years ago)

No need for Photoshop

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 June 2010 10:45 (fifteen years ago)

no but you'd nee da gif to show it slapping him gently

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 10:48 (fifteen years ago)

So, if, in the Implausible Baker Scenario, France beat SAF 3-1 and Mexico beat Uruguay 3-0, who goes through?

I think the Bergkamp '98 goal might be my favourite moment of international football ever.

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 11:18 (fifteen years ago)

Watching the CBC coverage has been kinda funny, in that it's just the BBC feed plus three guys sitting around a plastic yellow studio saying random things. On the bright side, no Alexi Lalas at all.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 11:25 (fifteen years ago)

<3 French football coverage if that's indicative. Zola's j'accuse to Dunphy's pithy Séan O'Casey

my favorite in l'Equipe this morning:

"Let's have no sadness or desolation, and even less anger. That would be giving too much to a team that has nothing to offer."

otm indeed

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 18 June 2010 11:27 (fifteen years ago)

aggressively shrugging your shoulders is the way forward

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 11:28 (fifteen years ago)

joachim loew and assistant in synchronised garb again I see

stofu (cozen), Friday, 18 June 2010 11:30 (fifteen years ago)

Based on nothing but unreliable memories I always think Germany are far better in night games.

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 11:31 (fifteen years ago)

Who's this calling it for the BBC again, Lineker?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 11:32 (fifteen years ago)

Lineker doesn't do play-by-play IIRC, he's more of a studio moderator

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 11:34 (fifteen years ago)

They had a(nother) feature on the Germany-England 1990 night game the other night - I'd never noticed the banks of empty seats before, or if I had I'd forgotten them

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 11:36 (fifteen years ago)

Ned for the actually good BBC play-by-play you need to listen to 5Live -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/5live/sport/football/

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 11:38 (fifteen years ago)

I would look into that on the phone here if I knew it was all synced up (ESPN Radio lagged by five minutes the other day, ridiculous.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 11:41 (fifteen years ago)

That seemed like a suspect fall.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 11:42 (fifteen years ago)

the BBC doesn't have callers, Ned, it has commentators ;) soccer doesn't have plays either, you guys!

Lineker hosts the punditry sessions in studio, he doesn't commentate. "Match commentators [for the BBC this world cup] are Guy Mowbray, Jonathan Pearce, Steve Wilson, Simon Brotherton and Steve Bower, with co-commentary from Mark Lawrenson, Mark Bright, Mick McCarthy and Martin Keown." So one pair from those guys :)

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 11:43 (fifteen years ago)

haha awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsTWjueuLz4&feature=player_embedded

stofu (cozen), Friday, 18 June 2010 11:43 (fifteen years ago)

Oh that's weird, I'm only hearing one commentator on this CBC feed. Unless his partner is mute.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 11:45 (fifteen years ago)

serbia are awful, no pressure on the german defenders at all

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 11:46 (fifteen years ago)

TV pictures + 5Live is the way to go, I think (available on Red Button Freeview or on the website - obv no good if you're not in the UK).

BBC stream still not working for me here; may try the PC hooked up to the (muted) big office TV in a mo' - unfortunately the TV is wall-mounted directly above a colleague who has no interest in the WC and finds the picture distracting (as you would if you were a foot away from 42" LCD showing iPlayer-quality blobs and pixels). She'll want to watch the next Spain game though.

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 11:46 (fifteen years ago)

5Live streams globally!

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 11:50 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, but not with pictures! (I.e., if you were watching another broadcaster's TV feed and listening to the 5Live feed, they wouldn't sync).

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 11:52 (fifteen years ago)

TV pictures + 5Live is the way to go, I think

I've been trying this via the web, but there's been a bit of a lag on the pictures which makes somewhat disconcerting viewing. Presumably there's a slight delay on the pictures just in case Lampard gets his tits out or something.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 18 June 2010 11:52 (fifteen years ago)

^ cozen's youtube- what would have been broadcast in a Kim-Jong Il ruled Britain.

Or Blair, take yr pick rly.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 11:53 (fifteen years ago)

Ooh just tried 5Live through a US proxy and it seems there are rights issues with World Cup matches..

Michael you used to be able to play with the pause button in Real Player but it's true - now with the whole iPlayer interface you can't line it up with another source.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 11:56 (fifteen years ago)

another fucking yellow card.

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:02 (fifteen years ago)

Four for the match already!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 12:03 (fifteen years ago)

5

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:04 (fifteen years ago)

It's not even that dirty.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:04 (fifteen years ago)

You say that to all the girls.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:06 (fifteen years ago)

6 and a german player off

wow this ref

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:06 (fifteen years ago)

madness

lol @ mccarthy "yr man's a clown"

stofu (cozen), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:06 (fifteen years ago)

McCarthy: Your man's a clown. Can I say that?

ha ha xp

p-dog, Friday, 18 June 2010 12:06 (fifteen years ago)

fuck this referee

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:07 (fifteen years ago)

barmy refereeing; if he carries on like this we'll see a few more reds

stofu (cozen), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:07 (fifteen years ago)

THIS GAME

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:08 (fifteen years ago)

awesome celebration

stofu (cozen), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:08 (fifteen years ago)

ffs what a minute of football

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 12:08 (fifteen years ago)

haha. Looked like he'd made the mistake of hopping into the pitchside bottomless hole.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:08 (fifteen years ago)

Christ.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 12:09 (fifteen years ago)

thing is, and micks right, surely won't be long before we have more sending offs anyway

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:09 (fifteen years ago)

yeah I did wonder for a minute how deep the pitchside hole was :)
xps

stofu (cozen), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:09 (fifteen years ago)

Chances of Serbia making it to half-time with 11 men?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 12:10 (fifteen years ago)

Rooting for the Germans now.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:10 (fifteen years ago)

Why aren't any players being booked for leaving the pitch after scoring? Does that only happen in Scotland to Celtic?

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:10 (fifteen years ago)

There's always one game like this, referee-wise. This fucks Ghana up potentially, if Germany lose this they will batter them in the last game.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 12:12 (fifteen years ago)

yes mick the keeper IS a big tart

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:14 (fifteen years ago)

you say it

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:14 (fifteen years ago)

did mccarthy just say "the keeper's a big tart there"?

stofu (cozen), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

ha xp

stofu (cozen), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

this ref's good for a peno too

stofu (cozen), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

Okay, that was pretty great.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 12:16 (fifteen years ago)

mick should commentate on all footy games.

"how else are yer gonna do an over ead kick?"

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:16 (fifteen years ago)

mick + ray, now there's a team

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:17 (fifteen years ago)

omg shearer hypocrit

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:18 (fifteen years ago)

mick and ray petition

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:19 (fifteen years ago)

shearer calling out our Gary for never chasing back

ah, but then redeems himself by admitting he never did either

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:20 (fifteen years ago)

omg shearer keep going
"for me ref is far too fussy. spanish referee"

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:21 (fifteen years ago)

It is totally weird for Capello to say he knows already who the keeper will be, but he won't tell anybody, including the keepers..?!

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:28 (fifteen years ago)

If I reloaded all the posts on this thread, I wonder if I would find out why Mike was moved to declare Bergkamp 1998 his favourite international football moment ever. It does have the Davies factor going for it, of course.

the pinefox, Friday, 18 June 2010 12:30 (fifteen years ago)

waoh, Shearer breaking out the knowledge, knowing that Gomez is fast.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:31 (fifteen years ago)

I understand his reasoning - he expects all 23 (or however many are left able to walk) players to be fully prepared to play on the day of the game.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:31 (fifteen years ago)

I would think as professional football players selected for the 2010 England team, they would decide to fully prepare regardless!

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:33 (fifteen years ago)

So why should need to tell them the team the day before?

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:33 (fifteen years ago)

I admire Loew's chutzpah in pulling off that whole "I-used-to-play-bass-in-a-critically-respected-80s-indie-group-but-now-curate-a-small-gallery-on-the-lower-east-side" look.

Stevie T, Friday, 18 June 2010 12:35 (fifteen years ago)

why Mike was moved to declare Bergkamp 1998 his favourite international football moment ever. It does have the Davies factor going for it, of course.

I get goosebumps every time I see it. And yes, Barry D.

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 12:37 (fifteen years ago)

Illya Kuryakin looking pretty tasty on the right for the Serbs.

Stevie T, Friday, 18 June 2010 12:44 (fifteen years ago)

Germany are really impressing me here

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:44 (fifteen years ago)

VIDIC LOLS

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

l, o, l.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

what happened there?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

LOL VIDIC

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

LOOOOOOOOOL SUPERMAN CLARK VIDIC

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

only a yellow?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:46 (fifteen years ago)

SAVE HAHAHAHAHAHAHA MORE CAPLOCKS

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:46 (fifteen years ago)

I admire Loew's chutzpah in pulling off that whole "I-used-to-play-bass-in-a-critically-respected-80s-indie-group-but-now-curate-a-small-gallery-on-the-lower-east-side" look.

looks like grout imo

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:46 (fifteen years ago)

no worries, Vidic will surely be sent off in about five minutes.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:46 (fifteen years ago)

YR MANS A CLWN

JUST GETTING IT OUT OF MY SYSTEM

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:47 (fifteen years ago)

Mick Mc "And I didn't fancy the goalie....I still don't!" Loving Mick

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:48 (fifteen years ago)

A German missing a penalty? WTF is going on?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:48 (fifteen years ago)

aw missing mick.

ur still painfully short on details though- therer's been a lot of bookings, a german off and lols. that's all i'm getting here

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:49 (fifteen years ago)

xp and a missed peno (ta matt)

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:49 (fifteen years ago)

1-0 to Serbia, boyyyyyeeeeeeee

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

Almost 2!

Stevie T, Friday, 18 June 2010 12:52 (fifteen years ago)

caek what's the official ref's line on whether klose should've walked?

stofu (cozen), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:54 (fifteen years ago)

darragh:

Many, many, many bookings for nothing. Klose then got 2 yellows. Immediately Serbia counter attacked as Germany still looked too busy being annoyed at Klose's sending off and Serb's scored. Pace then got a lot better and a scramble in the box saw Germany hit the bar just before the end of the half.

Second half has been scrappy but seen less cards. Serbia look in control but (HOLY SHIT SERBIA HAVE JUST HIT THE POST) Germany have been going for it, only for Loldolski and co not really having the composure in front of goal to even it up. Vidic decided to become goalie for a minute and did 'one for the cameras'; got a yellow card for his trouble. Loldolski had a tame penalty saved. Serbia back in charge and just hit the post. Germany just made two attacking subs.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:54 (fifteen years ago)

darragh: why not keep an eye on something like http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jun/18/world-cup-2010-germany-serbia-live

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:55 (fifteen years ago)

darragh. Klose 1st booking-Chasing back in own half, player cut across him and Klose's toe just about made contact with Serbs heel. Accidental but booked.

2nd booking- Klose chasing back tries to nick ball from side and behind whilst on his feet, no slide tackle or anything, minimal contact made. Yellow. Off.

2nd half Germany take game to Serbs Podolski put through inside left channel by Ozil puts it wide from about 6 yards.
Cross swung in from left. Kadieira in box but Vidic better positioned, decides to dive ala Superman and just nick the ball with his fingertips. Penalty
Podolski scuffs pk low to goalie's left. Saved.

Serbia hit post

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:55 (fifteen years ago)

Serbia don't look in control and it's not just the Germany fan in me saying that

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:56 (fifteen years ago)

let me also be a huge stan for the ESPN soccernet 2010 mobile app - liveblogs of each match, background on every player, news articles pulled in from ESPN etc etc

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:57 (fifteen years ago)

serbia should have scored there

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:59 (fifteen years ago)

Birmingham's Zigic just hit the woodwork.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 June 2010 12:59 (fifteen years ago)

Ah yer all great, cheers

zvookster- ilx quicker, better, have it open anyways (tho you do need a little bit of a prod to get going)

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:00 (fifteen years ago)

yeah we forget to update the feed unless there's a lol

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:03 (fifteen years ago)

LOL CACAU SENT OFF ALREADY!

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:03 (fifteen years ago)

GERMANY DOWN TO 9 MEN. IT IS ALL KICKING OFF!

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:03 (fifteen years ago)

did mick just pull a harmonica out for a bit there

r|t|c, Friday, 18 June 2010 13:04 (fifteen years ago)

Podolski taking a shit next to the dugout.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:04 (fifteen years ago)

wait what? i left the room for like a minute and...?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:05 (fifteen years ago)

http://i42.tinypic.com/29qmrko.gif

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:05 (fifteen years ago)

And now there's an elephant on the pitch

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:05 (fifteen years ago)

how the hell did the ball catch fire?!

stofu (cozen), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:07 (fifteen years ago)

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2010/6/18/1276865722650/Serbias-Milan-Jovanovic-c-006.jpg

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:07 (fifteen years ago)

Maradona's influence on this world cup has gone far and wide.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:08 (fifteen years ago)

ok fine i'll go find a feed. youse dicks.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:08 (fifteen years ago)

podlolski

dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:10 (fifteen years ago)

darra, nothing has really happended for a while. serbia having some shots, and as are germany really. all shots going wide zzz. nothing else.

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:10 (fifteen years ago)

is the rule you get booked for jumping into the crowd or just leaving the pitch?

stofu (cozen), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:11 (fifteen years ago)

not really worth it for the last 5 minutes.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:11 (fifteen years ago)

pity we can't get something like this,

http://www.cpcgamereviews.com/t/tracksuit_manager.png

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:13 (fifteen years ago)

Paul Hartley was once booked for crossing the white line but still staying on the grass. I've no idea what the rule is, or even if there is a rule, as it only seems to apply to the team I support. xp

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:13 (fifteen years ago)

serbia in dodgy offside movement, should really have done better as well

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:14 (fifteen years ago)

terrible cross, should be 2-0

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:14 (fifteen years ago)

Donaghy off for Wizard

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:14 (fifteen years ago)

88 fucking minutes

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:14 (fifteen years ago)

2 mins to go

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

is the rule you get booked for jumping into the crowd or just leaving the pitch?

you can get booked for inciting the crowd from just about anywhere, going into them is a definite booking, leaving the pitch usually isn't though.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:18 (fifteen years ago)

goal mouth hectic action, serbia escape with a free kick from it. somehow

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:18 (fifteen years ago)

stretcher action holding things up

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:19 (fifteen years ago)

Free kick for being injured while kicking Gomez

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 13:19 (fifteen years ago)

maybe last attack for germany

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:20 (fifteen years ago)

ITS ALL OVER

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:20 (fifteen years ago)

Didn't german defeats used to be more satisfying than this?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 13:20 (fifteen years ago)

well well well germany lose due to shocking ref. thanks ref for fucking up my wc competition prediction score

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:21 (fifteen years ago)

they also lost due to shocking pen

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:21 (fifteen years ago)

england could win the group and play germany now

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:22 (fifteen years ago)

Best World Cup ever.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:22 (fifteen years ago)

really hope Australia beat Ghana now

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:22 (fifteen years ago)

oh god what major fuck up are england going to fall foul of tonight

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:24 (fifteen years ago)

iirc Klose's yellow cards were legit

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:25 (fifteen years ago)

Forgot to vote on the Germany pen, saved my 100% record there :)

England to win by 3 tonight.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:25 (fifteen years ago)

muller looked terrible, what awful crossing

156, Friday, 18 June 2010 13:26 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe Germany are deliberately trying to come second to line up an easy second round match against England?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:27 (fifteen years ago)

strange, he was excellent in the last game xp

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:27 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe Germany are deliberately trying to come second to line up an easy second round match against England?

― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), 18 June 2010 13:27 (36 seconds ago) Bookmark

As long as they don't try to play the US & Russia at the same time, amirite?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:28 (fifteen years ago)

jose torres starting in midfield for the usa. this is going to be interesting. and potentially awesome
findley, not buddle, paired with jozy again

156, Friday, 18 June 2010 13:30 (fifteen years ago)

USA has never beaten a European team in Europe

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:32 (fifteen years ago)

Totally called this as a Serbia win last night while drinking beers w/ friends.

USA lineup for Slovenia:

Timmay

Cherundolo, Gooch, DeMerit, Charlie Blackmouth

Lando, Baby Bradley, EL GRINGO TORRES, Deuce

Findley, Jozy

Excited that Torres is included!

xpost!

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 13:33 (fifteen years ago)

Also, fact fans, this is the largest country in World Cup against the smallest

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:34 (fifteen years ago)

We must crush our enemies, axis of evil, with us or against us, war on Slovenian terror, etc.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 13:37 (fifteen years ago)

USA has never beaten a European team in Europe

How quickly everyone forgets that glorious 1980 night/day in front of 1600 Luxembourgers

Oct 05 80  W 2-0  Luxembourg          1,600  Dudelange, Luxembourg
Davis, Hulcer

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

Like any of you know where Slovenia is...

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

so james is gonna start ahead of green apparently

Gohamist (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:39 (fifteen years ago)

Like any of you know where Slovenia is...

Used to be part of Czechoslovenia innit

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:39 (fifteen years ago)

USA has never beaten a European team in Europe

wait what

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 13:40 (fifteen years ago)

onimo I stand corrected.

What's the conventional wisdom on the kind of game you get when both teams just clamp down on defense and try to score on the counter? I can't believe it's going to be very pretty.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:40 (fifteen years ago)

hey i've been there the women are beautiful!

156, Friday, 18 June 2010 13:40 (fifteen years ago)

so james is gonna start ahead of green apparently

― Gohamist (zvookster), 18 June 2010 13:39 (2 minutes ago)

Capello's formations just get stranger and stranger

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:42 (fifteen years ago)

What's the conventional wisdom on the kind of game you get when both teams just clamp down on defense and try to score on the counter?

Conventional wisdom is that it's usually bad viewing, think of heavyweights propping each other up for 90 mins as opposed to fencers going at it.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:43 (fifteen years ago)

so james is gonna start ahead of green apparently

different type of opposition calls for different type of bungle

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:44 (fifteen years ago)

Picture of mountains on the flag is to be applauded

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 13:44 (fifteen years ago)

I had the strangest dream last night that France lost to Mexico & Serbia beat Germany....

Man shit is getting GOOD now.

Dear Australia: please no braek heart

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 18 June 2010 13:45 (fifteen years ago)

Don't think the US can risk holding out for a draw and hoping England beat Slovenia comfortably. They've got to go for this.

The James-ahead-of-Green thing has to be bollocks, seeing as I doubt either goalkeeper knows yet. Although given the shot of Green making exactly the same fuck-up in training, I'd be pretty amazed if he started.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:46 (fifteen years ago)

maybe i jinxed germany with my stat. their 16 game unbeaten record in WC group games ends there. now England just need to not lose their next 9.

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:46 (fifteen years ago)

h8 lalas' fat face

156, Friday, 18 June 2010 13:47 (fifteen years ago)

showing pics of a decent Chicago bar... with a dude in an England shirt sitting front and center

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 13:49 (fifteen years ago)

Matt yeah, I just don't know if the USA knows any other way to play. I guess Torres might change things.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:49 (fifteen years ago)

Torres' inclusion in the second half of the warm-up against Turkey was a bit of a revelation. Not saying he's going to be our Xavi but he fills that kind of role.

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 13:51 (fifteen years ago)

James much more likely to mess up by running fifteen yards forward trying, and failing, to deal with an innocuous cross, ya? We haven't seen any of that yet I don't think, will be a breath of fresh air.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:51 (fifteen years ago)

dan otm, torres is the most un-american player we have, can't wait to see what he can do

yuergi lurve (156), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:52 (fifteen years ago)

bbc website offering 5live commentary synced to picture

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

Damn, I'm really excited about this now - great anthem for the goosebumps, USA

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

elvis impersonators! see this is what we need, fuck a uncle
sam costume

yuergi lurve (156), Friday, 18 June 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

That stadium looks brilliant

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)

rookie world cup ref

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

dan otm, torres is the most un-american player we have, can't wait to see what he can do

yes, totally looking forward to him starting a meaningful match. Locating and adding players like Torres and Dempsey (obv not Latino, but raised in a Latino soccer culture) to the typical Northern European-influenced qualities the Americans are known more for feels like the future of American soccer. Not totally unlike the way players like Ozil are injecting something different into the typical German game.

scottpl, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

Jagman looking to break the fastest red card record there.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:01 (fifteen years ago)

this game is going to be irritating no matter what, innit

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

Ozil is kind of a weird case, it's not like he's bringing anything quintessentially Turkish to the side. He's probably better than anyone in the Turkish team actually.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)

first Germany lose, now an American writes 'innit'

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

been doing that for a while, tbh

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:06 (fifteen years ago)

sorry i'm new here

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

^_^

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

bbc website offering 5live commentary synced to picture

That's what I meant upthread!

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

Tracer I think your stat is correct re competitive (i.e. World Cup Finals) matches in Europe & friendlies don't really count.
million xposts as I went for a coffee

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)

oh i see!

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)

xpost and also not xpost

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)

5live reporting james in

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

Ten mins in and Keown already questioning whether the selection of Torres is justified. Even Milner got longer than that!

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

lol

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

aghhhhhhhhhh

iatee, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

way too much goddamn space!!!!!! wtf was that????????????!!!!!!!!!

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

x_x

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

o i like this dance!

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

Wow. That's how you whip in a proper long-range shot with a Jabulani.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

http://pawlickiego.blox.pl/resource/MissSerbia_gallery__304x400.jpg

nicky lo-fi, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

I thought theball never went in on long distance strikes? And so did Howard apparently!

Jibe, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

How long has Howard been a midfielder?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

onyewu you should have stood there and took it like a man

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

What in the world.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

barack obama. taylor swift. herman melville. tina fey. ur boys let in one hell of a goal

stofu (cozen), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

Timmy rooted to the spot. Is susceptible to the long-range screamer, see: Chelsea (home), Dec 2006.

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

The USA are a terrible man for the conceding early goals.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

Howard was already hanging his head when the ball was barely past him.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

How long has Howard been a midfielder?

^_^

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

Birsa plays in France so has had time to get used to it maybe, the ball that is

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

birsa apparently had some kind of forcefield around him that didn't allow the FOUR us defenders to come within a three-yeard radius

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

"well it worked for them..."

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

http://cache-02.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2010/06/160x120_custom_1276380860873_photo.jpg

stofu (cozen), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)

ROFL

voodoo sailor (ken c), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)

Birsa is a str8 legend in Pro Evo, can't believe Tim hadn't done his homework

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

So Slovenia could be the first team to qualify for the knockout stage, here? Is that right?

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

What year was it that 4-4-2 became totally passe. I mean even with the usual suspects who used to say England have to play it cos it's what the players know. Will no-one stand up for it anymore? Even Keown deriding it.

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:34 (fifteen years ago)

So Slovenia could be the first team to qualify for the knockout stage, here? Is that right?

― Michael Jones, Friday, June 18, 2010 2:32 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yes

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

thats rly a yellow?

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

lol altidore

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

Yes. And if England draw they'd win the group. Xpost

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

two great chances

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

getting our confidence back

iatee, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

this is the worst!

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

the only way we're winning this game is if they decide to film air bud 6 in the second half

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

findley isn't very good is he?

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

well sure, a yellow card, why not

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

no

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

ref hates black people imo

iatee, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

lol referees

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

ok wtf at that yellow
xps

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

"absolutely ridiculous decision" - ian darke

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

Yes. And if England draw they'd win the group. Xpost

now i'm spooked

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

self hating black man amirite

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

US ripping them apart!

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

Coming second might not be the end of the world if Germany also fail to win their group.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

lolz

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

(dies)

iatee, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

RIP

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

Oh what is happening?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

fuck us

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

Good luck USA

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

I LOVE THIS DANCE THEY DO

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

also England can beat Germany xposts

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

Good luck USA

― Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:42 (29 seconds ago)

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

poop

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

Can I just point out that Tim Howard has been at fault for both of those goals? Lol "world class goalkeepers".

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

sb'd you for that

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

^harsh xp

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

the sb wasn't harsh iirc

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

fully expecting a temp ban now

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)

Little harsh Matt - surely the totally incompetent fullbacks share some of the blame.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)

Gonna say 2-2 here. It's crazily open.

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)

How on earth is #2 Howard's fault?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah what could he have even done on that last one? Come out quicker?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

what the fuuuuuuuuck

max, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

USA 25/1 to win 3-2 lets do this.

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

howard could have stood up better and not offered the simple rolled finish. im a goalkeeper btw

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

but I'd still have backed the striker

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

No it was a great finish but Howard was badly positioned for it.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

I mean how the fuuuuuuck do you let them get behind you when they're already dinking it around the edge of the box

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

(either that or he should have spread himself along the ground sooner as soon as the dude shaped to shoot, although that opens a goalie up for the chipped finish, or the being-rounded, which itself could easily end in pen + red card)

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

the hell's going on with this tournament. Incidentally I, if this stays the same, will be 0/5 on the last two days of predictions. My prediction for tonight: ENGLAND VICTORY.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

Friedel may have done better, could've just thrown his zimmer frame at Llubijankic

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

This game. I love how Kek reacted to both goals with total impassiveness.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

howard could have done the barthez taxi-hail

voodoo sailor (ken c), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

2002 was like this I believe

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)

Gonna be six straight World Cups for the U.S. with a loss to an Eastern European nation then...we just simply aren't organized or good at breaking down teams who are. The U.S. is only good when given space or counterattacking and absorbing pressure-- the first is fine in CONCACAF; the latter throws up the odd shock result/performance against traditionally great nations and then breeds complacency in games like this. Way too much dependance on athleticism > tactical knowhow. It's like we breed and choose players based on the old pre-Moneyball idea that speed/size is king.

scottpl, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

Most entertaining 45 so far?

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

fuck this fucking bulshitty ass team. you pieces of shit don't
even deserve to play algeria, just get on the fucking plane home and hang your heads in shame
you god damned losers

yuergi lurve (156), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

maybe it's just the replay angles but I don't see why Howard didn't at least try for the first goal. He'd have been able to get kinda close at least, surely?

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

Michael, Arg-SKo might edge it. Ger-Aus too.

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

like, it's rich when Americans say crap like "if only our best athletes played soccer, we'd dominate"...um, if anything we could do with fewer "athletes" on the team as it is and more soccer players!

scottpl, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

it's better than england's selection which is based on lack of speed/size and whether your winger can beat 3 players and then kick the ball back to the full-back

voodoo sailor (ken c), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

can't tell if 156 is being super-patriotic or should be detained

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

hate hate hate slovenia's peanuts uniforms

156, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

tim howard could've stopped that second goal if... he was a transformer

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

fuck this fucking bulshitty ass team. you pieces of shit don't
even deserve to play algeria, just get on the fucking plane home and hang your heads in shame
you god damned losers

Based on Donovan's pre-match comments I think at this point he agrees with you, which can't be great for second-half morale.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

Having watched it again yeah it was mostly the defenders' fault but Howard could have done better I think. He was pretty great against England which is probably why I feel impelled to be harsh about him.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

Everybody relax, US are getting at least a point out of this one. Maybe self-blockquoting in 15min with an Oops emoticon but who knows...

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

156 is my type of fan tbph

constructive criticism has its place, but sometimess you gotta let rip

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

What's the chance that Slovenia beats England and US goes on?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

slim to none

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:00 (fifteen years ago)

maybe i'm wrong, but what can the keeper do on those breakaways? like, vs england, didn't hesky kind of choke and when he shot the ball right at tim howard? it seemed like the whole thing was just luck to me, aside from the fact that howard somehow secured the ball and didn't let a rebound go off

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

lol why did he take out torres

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

auspicious start for edu there

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

He committed himself early to attacking the forward and diving to his right leaving an easy pass into the goal for the forward. These things al happen in seconds so I think it's maybe over critical to expect him to save it but he certainly could have made it harder.

Would love an early goal for USA here to give us a good second half - don't want the Slovenians sitting on a 2-0.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

fuckin a right

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

XD

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

oooooooooh

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

LANDO!!!!!!!!!!!

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

donamaicon

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

well then

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

outstanding finish

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

tada :)

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

woof. Aiming for the keeper's face, good tactic.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

Leave it to Donovan. "You do it like THIS."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

Goalie!lolololo

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

game of the tournament

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

two things were gonna happen there: he was going to score, or the goalie was going to get literally killed by the ball

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

Awesome!

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

The keeper ducked out of the way of the ball!

Stevie T, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

Well taken, thought he was going to cut it back.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

lol shitbag keeper pulled away from it

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

What's the chance that Slovenia beats England and US goes on?

Well, Slovenia won't have anything to play for, except avoiding the group D winners in the last 16 (who we assumed would be Germany but maybe not now), but often teams are pretty good with the pressure off. See Croatia (already qualified) beating England 3-2 at Wembley in ECQ 2007, Portugal thumping Germany 3-0 when already through in Euro 2000, etc.

LANDON FUCKIN' DONOVAN. OH YES.

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

Goalie!lolololo

― back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:05 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

goalie!lolololo figaro magnifigoooooaaaallllll!!!!!

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)

i would pull off the goal before i got killed by a soccer ball

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)

two things were gonna happen there: he was going to score, or the goalie was going to get literally killed by the ball

― Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:05 (1 minute ago)

J0rdan I say this in all sincerity: I want you posting more in soccerball threads

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)

tim howard could've stopped that second goal if... he was a transformer

not fuckin' Ultra Magnus tho right

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

Really want the US to go on and win this now.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

me too so that i win £50

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:09 (fifteen years ago)

nothing but net... swish

stofu (cozen), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:09 (fifteen years ago)

can still see slovenia getting back into this after 10 min of throbbing us momentum

sonderangerbot, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

In all seriousness I want to know whether acoleuthic thinks Slovenian keeper was at fault there

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

edu! what as sub!

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i think there becomes a point in sport where human nature takes over from your desires as a player and you flinch when a ball is coming at your head at 90 mph

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)

forget who it was that mentioned the "edu song" but I would still like to know how it goes

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)

perhaps the slovenian keeper could have used his hands to cover his face and touch the ball?

stofu (cozen), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)

dug the announcer saying "such was his velottity" just now

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)

but i always sucked at baseball so

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:12 (fifteen years ago)

Top of the keeper's head is the place to aim from close range - longest distance for his hands to travel. The risk is ballooning over and inviting scorn.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

Slovenian keeper? Should have been standing about a foot away from his near post, crouching slightly but with hands raised, in preparation for a shot. He'd have had a fighting chance to tip it over, or at least he might have forced Donovan into trying a pull-back, which isn't the keeper's remit to stop. Guy with the ball is always the most dangerous. Slovenian keeper instead didn't have any sort of firm footing, wasn't facing Donovan properly, ended up hiding behind the post and crumpling. Be big, be strong, be upright but also be on your toes. tl;dr soz

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

perhaps the slovenian keeper could have used his hands to cover his face and touch the ball?

^^^this

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

o Jozy.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

fuck this referee

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

Altidoh!

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

just kick it!

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

wanna know what that move was called

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

the Deuce Dumpster

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

The Ol' Scamola

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

Not the greatest day for refereeing, eh?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

so great that there's still half-an-hour left of this

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

After all my bleating upthread about the wonder of synchronised R5L+BBCTV, I've now chosen to listen to R5L alone as a prompter to turn round and watch bits of this on the big telly...only standalone R5L is about five seconds ahead of the video feed...

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6zJAaOtYTQ

Dempsey v Slovenian guy

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

:D

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

only standalone R5L is about five seconds ahead of the video feed...

this is perfect tho, you can look round in time

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

Someone tell me where I can stream this in the US?

jaymc, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

espn3

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

Wasn't working for me. Never mind, though, I got it now.

jaymc, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, i'm watching on espn3, it's pretty good

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

What is with the long ball tactics? This is hopeless all of a sudden

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

(HuffPo posted a Univision stream.)

jaymc, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

Hm, almost.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

Hmm thought that was maybe a penalty

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

not w/ this ref

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

http://kmsamistad309.wikispaces.com/file/view/William_henry_harrison_picture.jpg/106218645/William_henry_harrison_picture.jpg

do it for him

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

"the sun has gone, there's a burning ember atmosphere here, temperature has dipped, there's a lovely dark red glow on the horizon" <3 5live

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

this is perfect tho, you can look round in time

Thought about pulling headphones off as soon as they get excited on the radio and spinning round to see what happens to avoid the "oh but that's a terrible final ball" pre-emptive radio groan.

Am not even pretending to work now.

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

Foul against Altidore for standing still there wtf ref

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

Slovenia operating under the assumption that winning yellow cards is a good thing.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

So who's the ref for England/Algeria, and is he insane?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

youngest ref of the WC, i saw somewhere

Gohamist (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

gomez plz

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

it's mick foley

voodoo sailor (ken c), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

xposts

voodoo sailor (ken c), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

got a bad, 3-1 type feeling about this

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

Game on

Popture, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

USAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

2-2

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

Get the fuck in!

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

now for the winner

Gohamist (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

goaaaal

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

you play with the huns and you're the coach's son, michael bradley!

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

Get In!!!!!

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

:-D

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

Best celebration yet.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

holy fucking shit

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

Now how might the keeper be at fault there?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

2-2 suits england

Jarlrmai, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

U-S-A! U-S-A!

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

Blimey I thought Bradley had ballooned that. Get in.

Tim, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

lol 'aim at keeper's head' works AGAIN

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

Now how might the keeper be at fault there?

― Ismael Klata, Friday, June 18, 2010 10:39 AM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

arms too short

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

US tactically committed to going for the winner here

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

that's it i'm quitting work.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

i can quit work forever if USA score another

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

booooo

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

what's riding on it?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

oh what bs

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

Gonna cram that whistle so far...

Popture, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

wtf

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

lol ref!!

sonderangerbot, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

Argh.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

.....???

Gohamist (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

Oh fuckety fuck!

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

THE FIX THE FIX THE FIX

Grisly Addams (WmC), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

GOOOOOOOAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

anyone see a foul there?

Gohamist (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

ref got paid in slovenia-bucks

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

refs determined to ruin the world cup..

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

Utterly rubbish referee

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

I see a foul on the ref

Grisly Addams (WmC), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

this is like watching MLS refs amirite

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

stevem is betting against the ref on betfair

voodoo sailor (ken c), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

That should have been a goal, looked like a Slovenian defender was doing a Jamie Carragher.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

Fucking bullshit refereeing there - four Americans being held and they still scored.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/S_Z/Sa_Sh/Shield/season7/shield82.jpg

Landon Donovan prays for a late winner.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

darragh-USA goal ruled out for holding in the box but it was the defender holder not the attacker

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

But seriously, what was that for?

Popture, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

so i now read on the guardian site.

sounds liek this one is worth catchin in full later on

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

If Howard had missed that one...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

I like that neither side is playing for a draw, though. THIS is real World Cup football.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

this looks scary...

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

saved

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

just let him shoot why don't ya

sonderangerbot, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

These Slovenes have sure figured out the Jabulani.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

(does anyone care if I add "(unleash your inner vuvuzela)" to the thread title?)

HI DERE, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

it can be the new board description

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

USA should have had a pen for the way Radisolevic was impeding Bradley.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

xp sounds like a kegel manouevre anyway

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

lol is that why the fart thread was revived?

HI DERE, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

i like to blow vuvuzela and i am crazy

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

I just blew my first vuvuzela.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

lol dempsey

go O and O (Ste), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

Way to fall over the ball dempsey.

Popture, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

"holding his face, not sure why" - roll replay of Dempsey's face splatting on the ground.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

och he wasn't talking about Dempsey, was he. Still a good face-splat.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

USA should have had a pen for the way Radisolevic was impeding Bradley.

And the way they were holding Altidore.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

Feel bad for the USA who deserved a win there

Jibe, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

USA WINS 2-2!

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

Eng-Alg can't live up to this surely. Oh that's right Jamo's playing.

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

Terrific stuff but USA diddled out of two points and SteveM diddled out of ONE MILLION DOLLARS.

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

There were at least two, possibly three, Slovenian defenders committing penalty offences for that disallowed goal. USA was robbed.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

Wonderful game that. US robbed a little bit, but a win against Algeria still sees them through.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

US not in a bad position going into the last game

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

bastard ref owes me £2.50

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

I should be delirious over the tie but I'm just angry over the call.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

uh i mean 25k

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

Good god that was a crazy game. I can breathe a bit now.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

fuck this sport iirc

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

United States are really cranky.

Popture, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

yeah I wonder why

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

Not the best result nor the highest class football but what a thriller.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

I mean it couldn't have been the absolutely shocking decisions late in the game xp

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

i like that people have no qualms harping on officials in soccer.

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

How about all game long?

xpost

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

Nobody told the US fans that it's all about taking part- they're finally getting the right mentality imo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

why can't they invent a sport without refs

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

Looking at replay of the first goal I'm not sure Howard could actually see the ball until it was past the defender and by then it was too late

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

why can't they invent a sport without refs

― Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 10:55 (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ultimate frisbee

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

okay so someone explain the math - what's the scenario for us not going through if we beat algeria? if england ties slovenia and beats algeria? that's 5-5-5, right? so what are we (AMERICA) rooting for in that situation?

iatee, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

england will destroy slovenia

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

Wonderful game that. US robbed a little bit, but a win against Algeria still sees them through.

Not necessarily. ENG bt ALG, USA bt ALG, ENG-SLV draw - all down to goal difference.

xp

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

alright so someone give me the rundown here from a US standpoint regarding the three possible results in algeria/england

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

torn between supporting US or mexico for remainder of this tournament

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

If USA beat Algeria by two clear goals they're definitely through.

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

if US doesn't go through, that ref sets back soccer in the US another 4 years

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

If the US beat Algeria only a high-scoring draw between England & Slovenia can send them out I think

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

if England beats Algeria = E4, S4, U2, A0
if USA beats Algeria = E4, S4, U5, A0
England or Slovenia win then puts USA in 2nd
Enfland & Slovenia draw = 5,5,5,0 and goal difference - so USA need to beat Algeria by two goals to guarantee finishing above Slovenia. I think.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

Nobody told the US fans that it's all about taking part- they're finally getting the right mentality imo

Huh? Sam's Army are an embattled minority but their heart's always in it.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

and here i was all geared up cuz the ref in the us-england match was supposed be the bad one

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

Kudos to Michael J for calling the result a h-t

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

I've seen that Klose red card a dozen times now and every time it looks even more outrageous

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

fuck this sport iirc

Now you feel the pain we have felt for years.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

there is basically no way to figure it out right now, is what i've told myself.

Yes big ups to Steady Mike's prognosticatory chops!

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

true but i think we all know the REAL result

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

Thank you very much. I will take your kudos to the pub where it will form the basis of an excellent shandy.

xp

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

Actually as far as fire in the belly goes the disallowed goal, and salvaging a draw, is possibly the best result for Team USA. Still alive and with something to prove.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

He factored in the refs first half performance when making the prediction;)

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

Huh? Sam's Army are an embattled minority but their heart's always in it.

― If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White),

i meant in terms of reacting with outrage and bile to decisions and results that don't go your way MW :)

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

Ha, Seedorf was so proud of that free kick

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

tbf it was the better than any hit the whole tournament.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

"Having said there was no way back for the Americans at half-time, I'm a broken man. But the comeback was absolutely sensational and at the end there was only going to be one winner." - Hansen

Er?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

ENG 1-0 ALG
USA 1-0 ALG

ENG 1-1 SLV = England out on goals scored.
ENG 2-2 SLV = FIFA draws lots between ENG and USA
ENG 3-3 SLV = USA out on goals scored.

Fun stuff, yeah?

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

THE VIEWER. (xpost)

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

it will be like england 5 algeria 1

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

Damien Johnson and Seedorf on the new ball - actually quite genuinely insightful piece! Seedorf comes into his own at last.

the pinefox, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

Moyes predicted a Bradley equaliser on the radio (having also got a couple of other things right earlier in the week); his tip for tonight? Rooney hat-trick.

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

ahhhh Merdeyeux I was not familiar with that particular cliche.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

Hansen means "football", Tracer

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

or yeah viewer whatever hansen's a dick right

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

i think hansen needs to rethink the technique of his punditry shit
maybe change the parameters a little bit

voodoo sailor (ken c), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

funny i don't see "Football" on my wallchart

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

"there was only going to be one winner" refers to a team finishing stronger than an opponent, even if the match finishes in a draw, confusingly

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

oh it does not

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

By the way, you're welcome England for handing you a thoroughly dispirited Slovenian side

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

there is going to be an elimination thred right?

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

interpreting streams of unrelated cliches can be a feat only achievable by the real hermeneutic master, it's true.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

you're welcome England for handing you a thoroughly dispirited Slovenian side

idk could galvanise them just as much. did any key player pick up a second yellow?

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

Didn't see Steady Mike's prediction - thread moves too fast - but I also thought USA would come back strongly. They actually seemed to dominate first half anyway, made lots of chances then. Hansen's ironic / confident prediction that Slovenia would win, when 2-0 up, always looked oddly unsafe, esp as USA are one of the most big-hearted teams.

Best game of the tournament I think.

the pinefox, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

Kenneth is right, Hansen is getting everything wrong.

the pinefox, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

"there was only going to be one winner" refers to a team finishing stronger than an opponent, even if the match finishes in a draw, confusingly

― Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), 18 June 2010 16:12 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

oh it does not

― mdskltr (blueski), 18 June 2010 16:12 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

OK it really does. Hansen was not referring to 'football', he's not a fucking allegorist.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

An Al Gore-ist?

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

First I watched via wee screen in corner of monitor at work, I'm glad I did (even though I had to leave at 2-1, heard the equaliser on the radio in the car and got home just in time for the Edu controversy)

ailsa, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

In general, punditry has involved way way too much hindsighted falsehood: ie after an even game that ends 1-0, the loser's performance is declared hopeless, etc. Trust that cautious honourable Hodgson will not make this Townsendian error.

the pinefox, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

Am practising for Wednesday, but not going to happen because I'm desk-sharing next week with someone who doesn't care

ailsa, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

Edu goal did look OK to me - indeed looked very good! - but whistle went early, so maybe slight sense that game had already been affected by that. But in practice I guess not.

the pinefox, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

There was only going to be one winner... and that was disallowed.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

punditry has involved way way too much hindsighted falsehood

ahh, johnny giles's much-beloved "wise after the fact, bill"

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:19 (fifteen years ago)

I was joking when I said THE VIEWER (and now I feel bad for being unintentionally misleading :'( ), but any interpretation is as good as any other I say, that's the beauty of Hansen's work.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:19 (fifteen years ago)

i have never heard 'only one winner' meaning team that played better at the end before, but OK.

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)

The US were vikings in the 2nd half tho

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)

Ferguson, who hopes Rio Ferdinand will be fit to return for the second leg, added: "At 2-1 down against a team of that standard it is difficult but I did say at half-time to persevere with our football and keep playing with speed because I did think it would make a difference.

"We lost two terrible goals ourselves by bad defending but it was a great second goal and that gave us a big incentive.

"There was only going to be one winner after that,
albeit with the last kick of the ball. I think we were the better team from the moment we scored the second goal.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:21 (fifteen years ago)

i love punditry grammar though, for reals. deserves a board of it's own

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:21 (fifteen years ago)

terry venables after a sub netted once-

he's been and come on and done well and scored a goal

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)

So yeah the USA lost 2-2, right?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)

www.dangerhere.com btw, is the punditry resource of choice- it may be a little irish-centric, but that's an recommendation if anything.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)

Still trying to calculate USA outcomes in my head and getting in a total muddle.

Basically, if we don't beat Algeria next week we're toast right?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

what african country was the ref from again? cameroon? trade sanctions imo

iatee, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

Mali I think

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

punditry has involved way way too much hindsighted falsehood

My MOST HATED punditry cliche is this ^ applied to penalties. Every penalty that goes in is 'a great penalty', every one that doesn't is 'a poor penalty to be honest' - even though it's often THE EXACT SAME KICK, the goalie just happened to guess right/wrong.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

Basically, if we don't beat Algeria next week we're toast right?

Not if England draw all their matches

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

are germany still favourites in the eyes of the commentators btw? or have things changed since the australia game?

voodoo sailor (ken c), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, but once it's on target there really isn't any other measure of a penalty- it's almost a binary outcome event

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

wonder what england's competitive penalty shootout misses/hits would spell out, actually

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:26 (fifteen years ago)

L-O-L-R-U-S-S-I-A-N-L-I-N-E-S-M-A-N-K-A-R-M-A- NO DOUBT

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:27 (fifteen years ago)

maybe if the shot goes right into rob green's hands and then he flaps at it and let it roll through his legs, trickling into the centre of the goal that might not be a great penalty

voodoo sailor (ken c), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)

aiming it right at rob green's hands sounds like a pretty accurate shot to me

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)

I saw the stat for penalty success floating around - around 56% success for England. Spain are slightly worse. Germany were about 95% until today, hadn't missed one in the world cup since 1982 - and that includes shoot-outs

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:29 (fifteen years ago)

ken will never get a punditry role with that level of nuance

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:29 (fifteen years ago)

Not if England draw all their matches

If that happened and we draw Algeria next week then it comes down to goals scored (since ENG and USA goal difference would both be zero).

Gah I should have stuck with my earlier intuition that there is simply no point in thinking about this yet.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:30 (fifteen years ago)

was aware of the german stat alright.

dutch? bet they're as bad if not worse than you guys.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:30 (fifteen years ago)

wait until after england result tracer, will be a lot easier then

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:30 (fifteen years ago)

So yeah the USA lost 2-2, right?

i've found him

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2009/12/1/1259675553185/world-aids-001.jpg

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:32 (fifteen years ago)

"Another nation with a dismal penalty record is the Netherlands, though they have suffered just one incident of shoot-out heartache at the World Cup. In 1998, a talented team including the likes of Dennis Bergkamp, Marc Overmars and Patrick Kluivert were sent crashing out by Brazil, as misses from Phillip Cocu and Ronald de Boer ensured that the Seleção - who had won the 1994 trophy on penalties against Italy - would be returning to the final once again.

Although this is the only shoot-out defeat the Netherlands have suffered at the World Cup, the Oranje can certainly stake a claim to having one of the worst records in history, with exits to Denmark in the 1992 European Championship semi-final, France in the Euro '96 quarter-final and Italy in the Euro 2000 semis under their belt
"

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:32 (fifteen years ago)

Is Jibe French? He / she is one of the best commentators on that team.

Can say this as just practically broke computer loading thread.

Glad about Blance coming in; think Domenech era tragic. But then even 2000-2004 was useless for France, si triste to say. 2000 was the highpoint of France post-1980s.

the pinefox, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:42 (fifteen years ago)

beat sweden in the 04 euro quarters though. or mellberg did. xp

sonderangerbot, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:42 (fifteen years ago)

Kenneth Chu on Green is good as Kenneth has much GK experience - played with him on Primrose Hill a few times.

the pinefox, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:42 (fifteen years ago)

*Blanc

the pinefox, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:43 (fifteen years ago)

Jibe is French, PF

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:53 (fifteen years ago)

WTF LIFE

Ok I assumed that the game after Germany's would be the next in their group and so slept through it because lolaustrailiawithoutcahill v. lolghanawithoutessien. And suddenly i've missed 'game of the tournament' and america sends this thread mental and huage? WTF WORLD CUP SCHEDULERS NOW I'M GONNA HAVE TO GO FIND SOME HIGHLIGHTS TO SEE USA LOSE 2-2

some xposts-

Argentina have already qualified.

'There is only one winner here' can often mean the neutral in a good draw, right?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:56 (fifteen years ago)

"the viewer"

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:57 (fifteen years ago)

oh that's slightly different, i see what you mean

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:58 (fifteen years ago)

#1 link on reddit with the caption "this guy sucks"

http://i.imgur.com/vEbzj.jpg

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:59 (fifteen years ago)

yep, jibe's perspective on the french team and issues around it are superlative. what ever happened to our south american correspondent who popped up briefly? brazilian, i think.

think this biz abt "the winner" being the side finishing strongest in a draw is 100% bullshit, two misstatements from hansen and ferguson imo

Gohamist (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 16:59 (fifteen years ago)

Argentina could still go out on goal diff no? unlikely tho this is

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 18 June 2010 17:02 (fifteen years ago)

xps chupacabras was our resident Brazilian for about 20 mins - nice rant about the argies, but no staying power to put the boot into his own boys a la Jibe

Greece 3-0 Argentina, S Korea 3-0 Nigeria send Argentina out. So yeah, Argentina are through

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 17:05 (fifteen years ago)

Saw a stat that reckoned no goalie wearing red had ever saved a pen in the World Cup! (not sure if that's just shoot outs) so I was very confident when Forlan stepped up the other day.

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 17:06 (fifteen years ago)

For virtually every penalty Eric Cantona scored for Man United, he sent the keeper the wrong way. The ability to do that is what separates a good penalty from a great one, and a good penalty taker from a great one.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 17:12 (fifteen years ago)

what about le tiss/shearer - did they not just pummel it into the very corner every time

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 17:15 (fifteen years ago)

or even lee 'top corner' dixon

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 17:16 (fifteen years ago)

I've got my special England beard on today up the lions

admrl, Friday, 18 June 2010 17:16 (fifteen years ago)

What about Julian Dicks?

admrl, Friday, 18 June 2010 17:16 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGc6Kld7nzc&feature=player_embedded#!

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 17:26 (fifteen years ago)

can anyone say what the call is there

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 17:26 (fifteen years ago)

sending the keeper the wrong way is a nice trick; but if you put it in the corner it doesn't matter if they know which way you're going, they'll still not save it.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Friday, 18 June 2010 17:26 (fifteen years ago)

that is a shocker of a decision.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Friday, 18 June 2010 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

Penalties in the corner are great penalties - e.g. Blanco's last night. Penalties slightly to one side of the keeper while the keeper guesses wrong are not. But I bow to Shearer et al as usual.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 17:30 (fifteen years ago)

must say donovan was a class act in the post game interview, players/managers have whined a lot more for far better refs

sonderangerbot, Friday, 18 June 2010 17:31 (fifteen years ago)

i sorta like the vuvuzelas but this keeps running in my head:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cVlTeIATBs&feature=player_embedded

ryan, Friday, 18 June 2010 17:32 (fifteen years ago)

I've really liked Bradley in the two games so far. Very calm and economical on the ball and always in the right place - reminds me a bit of Makalele without the tackling, but with an attacking threat to make up for it.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 17:41 (fifteen years ago)

There was a lot of nepotism talk when he first started playing for the nat'l team, but I think he's proved that to be false. It's actually a good thing he's not going for as many tackles any more, he had a bit of a card habit going for a while. Seems like he's cooled down a bit.

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)

Coulibaly trending #1 on Twitter now

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/2532/eduwtf.jpg

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

i can't see anymore highlights of that non-goal

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

!!STEVIE G GONNA MAKE THOSE MUSLIMS LISTEN TO HIS MUSIC!!

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

phil collins to soundtrack us going guantanemo on 'em

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 June 2010 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

Algeria's "calamity goalkeeper", ffs.

James Mitchell, Friday, 18 June 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

They just gave a special welcome to viewers of SBS Australia... so who's coverage am I watching?

Popture, Friday, 18 June 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

ESPN

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

this post kind of broke my heart

http://bit.ly/9j0tMg

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

wtf this commentating. dude catches the ball with ease and suddenly he is massimo taibi?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 June 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

Algeria's "calamity goalkeeper", ffs.

to be fair

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

They don't call him David "Calamity" James for nothing.

James Mitchell, Friday, 18 June 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

And a victory would have given a lot of people all across the country a moment to remember… and a story to tell when people asked, “So, when did you become a soccer fan?”

Instead, it will baffle a lot of people who wanted something to remember. And it will give a lot of people who didn’t like soccer in the first place a chance to say: “What the heck was that?”

I dunno, people form emotional bonds with teams/sports as much for the bullshit and injustices as anything else.

idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Friday, 18 June 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

algeria certainly the better team so far

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

What the hell is this? England aren't winning anything.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 18:50 (fifteen years ago)

keep it up imo

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

also overemphasizes the impact of such a comeback i think. if the US get through to knockout stages there could be far bigger moments. but it's a great piece nonetheless.

algeria comprehensively outplaying the english at the mo.

Gohamist (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 18:52 (fifteen years ago)

England seem to like to play at the level of the other team. It's like they get in a huddle before the match and say 'quick fellas, it's Algeria, let's play shit'. :(

Popture, Friday, 18 June 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

Watching Carragher is so interesting. Even when he's in a good position defensively, or has already won a tackle, it's almost as if he has a compulsion to throw out his arm to cuff or fling a leg to kick. He's like a viking in his death throes, he needs to do collateral damage.

I'm amazed that he's a millionaire professional footballer, and gobsmacked that he's at this WC playing for a team hoping to qualify from the group stages.

think this biz abt "the winner" being the side finishing strongest in a draw is 100% bullshit

eh it's not necessarily always a draw, it's more usually used when a team wins, but I've consistently seen it used by pundits/managers after a draw also- it's used as a 'we were more likely to win that' brag.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

England are playing like champions. League One champions.

James Mitchell, Friday, 18 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

stfu wayne

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

wish england would stop diving. wish itv would mention that england keep diving. wish england could stop playing terribly.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

I'm amazed that he's a millionaire professional footballer

dude he had a career before 2009/2010

ah yeah i accept that, like used to mean "if there was gonna be a winner out of the two, it would only be x"

Gohamist (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

wow. almost recognizable as football for a minute here.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

have to admire ally mccoist for having spent so long in football but having so thoroughly resisted gaining any insight into it

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

England are going to show up for this match at some stage right?

Popture, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

how do fans always seem to notice when they're on camera?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

they see themselves on the big screen

not_goodwin, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

england playing better in the last 10 mins but algeria defending very well when called upon

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:08 (fifteen years ago)

It's all England now

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

almost recognizable as football for a minute here.

I started to think this game was actually some sort of scripted "art prank" for a moment there

admrl, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

Watch the K Foundation Burn a Million Quid Kick a Ball Around for a Bit

display-name aesthete (snoball), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

I'd agree, but taking half an hour to ease yourself into the match isn't a winning strategy.

Popture, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

That was poor, but this is England at the world cup and that is how it rolls.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)

This is going to be another of those "England scrape an unconvincing 1-0 win" games, isn't it?

display-name aesthete (snoball), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

England are playing like champions. League One champions.

― James Mitchell, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:55 (20 minutes ago)

iirc norwich were quite penetrative in the final third

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe Capello could take Walcott off at half time and put Aaron Lennon on. I really don't see why Lennon's on the bench, he's contributing nothing if he doesn't even get on pitch.

Oh.

James Mitchell, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

lennon one of few positives imo

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

btw Andy Townsend is an embarrassment - when an Algeria player put in a tackle on Ashley Cole in the first 5 minutes he was all "...but it's a desperate challenge...somehow got the ball!"

Actually you massive cunt it was as clean and level-headed a tackle as you'll see

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

thread needs a contrarian Andy Townsend assessment

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

Dunno RS- Lennon not really enjoying it out there. Where he and johnson should be overlapping, they're getting in each others channels. No options for Lennon at all when he cuts in, and the LB has him for pace I think.

Didi, Brady, Giles really laying into Heskey.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

heskey falls down a lot, eh?

mookieproof, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

lennon one of few positives imo

No, I think you were watching someone else. Lennon was sitting on the bench without the chance to make any passes forward or take any players on. He did manage to attempt two unsuccessful crosses, though, which isn't bad for someone sitting anonymously on the bench. I say give him a chance in the second half and bring him on to see what he can do.

James Mitchell, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)

Oh hooray, the Carlsberg advert!

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe if England had an actual lion playing, we'd be winning?

display-name aesthete (snoball), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

Tho I certainly wouldn't pick out Lennon as the England midfielder that's the problem, Barry patently unfit, Lampard touch of custard, Gerrard whacking it everywhere.

Maybe Lennon is being singled out because he's the only one that's been on the ball for more than 3 secs before panicking and kicking it away?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

2 long balls to Heskey in the first 90 secs didn't really do much to prove Beckenbauer's "kick and rush" theory wrong.

Chris, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

You've got to figure that a lion pissed up on Carlsberg would be handy to have on the pitch.

display-name aesthete (snoball), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

Rooney, tho- World class, no doubt. And Heskey really allows him to play.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

Wait a minute did we beat Algeria 3-0 just lately?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

Oh hooray, the Terry Venables advert!

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

wtf is this tiny streaker shit

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

Actually you massive cunt

this is how i'll be addressing anyone i disagree with from now on

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

JUST ROO IT!

James Mitchell, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

28/05/2010 F Rep of Ireland 3-0 Algeria algeria Dublin

lololololol

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

xxxp streak-a-shit

display-name aesthete (snoball), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)

imo wesley johnson played best in that half? or maybe gerrard?

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)

I couldn't put my finger on any one thing wrong with England - they seem to be set up right, but just look like a limited team with everyone playing badly

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)

Why are England playing on their heels? There's no reason for it. Move up. Algeria is only moving forward into the space between where they get the ball and whatever backward ass place England is standing. It's not like their passing it around the midfield. Super frustrating team. Hey backline, see where you are standing? Ok cool. Now take twenty paces forward.

Popture, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)

What would a 0-0 draw mean to the US?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)

Can't believe Southgate was accusing someone else of looking like a turkey.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

crouch-defoe ftw imo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

What would a 0-0 draw mean to the US?

― If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, June 18, 2010 2:30 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark

that if we beat algeria we would be in

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

Would mean a victory v Algeria would see the US through; a draw v Algeria would probably see them eliminated xp

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

England are taking way too long to pass and getting mugged far too often.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

i love that ally's accent is so thick that when he says "crosses" it sounds like "crossies" which is like something you'd say to a baby

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

lolmexico, u guise

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs073.ash2/36995_1518650806581_1243848243_31472801_6532536_n.jpg

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:33 (fifteen years ago)

lol my bad wesley johnson plays basketball \(o_O)/

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:33 (fifteen years ago)

That pigeon was sitting on the Algerian crossbar all through the first half, right?

James Mitchell, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

Tyldesley and Townsend are starting up the Capello Out bandwagon...

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

Was Gerrard in position once the first half? Cole was hit on a 2-on-1 break too many times.

Heskey was the best player in the first 45. Yes, we were that bad. Still ty ilx for egging me on to take the England-go-out-in-the-group-stages bet, I was only half convinced when I took it.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

I kept wondering who this 'Matt Moore' who plays for Algeria was.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

what odds did you get a.h.h.?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

matt moore!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9xpLdMn2yLc/S7KqLvKAV2I/AAAAAAAAAAU/a9gcdRJAYA0/s1600/Matt+moore+pic+for+blog.jpg

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

That pigeon was sitting on the Algerian crossbar all through the first half, right?

We made the same joke at the pub when I was at lunch.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

this is terrible

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

can one of you brits explain the point of beckham on the bench pls?

sonderangerbot, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

Poor Becks is gonna end with worry lines on his face after this.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

becks is on "vibes"

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

ffs Heskey

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

Should have gotten in vibrant young english coach mcclaren to help capello out with the tournament jitters imo

xp nah sam heskey is just shite. srsly, tonight's not his night

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

Think England will still win, but it's really noticable how the Algerians are going for tricks and backheels all the time while England look they'd be terrified to do anything like that?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

becks the only player to make that nasty suit look good.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

ball bouncing off english players like it's a balloon.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

just realized that the appropriate lonely island track for england games isn't 'we like sportz' but 'sax man'

ultra nate dogg (history mayne), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

i'm curious as to who/what pays capello's salary

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

i'm on a boat home imo xpost

Gohamist (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

the queen, i think

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

More England shots on their own goal than at Algeria's by far.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

looooooooool

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

yikes

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

England will still score from something like that and win 1-0

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

jeeeesus

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

LOL ENGLAND seriously this is the worst

sonderangerbot, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

Oh englandpaws

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

I wouldn't be surprised if England lose this.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

Absolute crapulescence.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

oh dang

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

Oh great, NOW Carragher starts getting pulled up for that

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

Carragher needs to make the circle bigger.

James Mitchell, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

carra is such a hilarious liability

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

England will still score from something like that and win 1-0

― Ismael Klata, Friday, June 18, 2010 8:41 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

All right, Sax Man, that's my fault, I put you on the spot / But now you're all warmed up and this-a next one's gonna be hot / Kick it Sax Man!

ultra nate dogg (history mayne), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

this is starting to remind me horribly of the Croatia game - like, you can't believe how bad they are, only it keeps getting worse

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

"we've seen a lot of good teams at this world cup, england is not one of them" -- shep messing, trolling espn radio

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

wish itv hadn't bought such hideous vector flags - it bothers me every time i see them.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

NOOO SWP FUCK OFF

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

Apparently Gerrard and Lampard have to bring their trademark long-range rockets against this guy.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

classic material

ultra nate dogg (history mayne), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

i have a lot of questions about this england performance, but SWP isn't the answer to any of them

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

oh man

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

"Let's hope Aaron Lennon can feed SWP as often as he can."

Andy Townsend is a feeder and SWP is a BBM.

James Mitchell, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

SWP should only be paired with his pal, Defoe.

How come England have no hustle whatsoever?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

I know England are looking terrible and not likely to get a result against Slovenia at all, but it's still annoying to hear the commentators a few minutes ago say that a win will keep things in our own hands and a draw/loss would result in needing favours since, er, it wouldn't.

Even if England lose they will still only need to win the last game to go through - at worst by multiple goals. Which is a bit of a stroke of luck compared to France.

if, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

That guy in the middle of the Algerian fans looked like Matt Damon...

display-name aesthete (snoball), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

My problem w/Heskey has always been that playing him, you tend to play hail-Mary long balls up to him to hold for a midfield or other striker who doesn't seem to want run or be able to.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

xp Maybe he's researching The Bougherra Identity.

James Mitchell, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

The Departed, more like

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

shoot at the goal! imo

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

stop shooting directly where the goalkeeper is, more like

display-name aesthete (snoball), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

xxps Or the Rob Green Zone.

James Mitchell, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

I finally get home & a chance to watch a whole game & these guys are playin like this

c'mon guys

get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

martin tyler seems to be oblivious to what is actually happening on the field. he has his little script based around england being giants and algeria hapless minnows, and he is incapable of deviating from it.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

Defoe to win it?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

England under such pressure to win from nat'l media, etc... When was the last time he read the Algerian press?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

defoe for heskey right now probably the smallest possible change capello could make right?

sonderangerbot, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

defoe for heskey right now probably the smallest possible change capello could make right?

― sonderangerbot, Friday, June 18, 2010 3:00 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark

literally, right?

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)

is there anyone on this team who can cross, btw? can barry or someone?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

okay he's been decent so far xp hey now

sonderangerbot, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

Only tactic to win this is for Gerrard or Rooney to dive very soon. Can feel it coming.

James Mitchell, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

it's coming...

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

It's playing out a bit like the first half, so England may be over the worst

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

this is truly desperate

itv should just cut to whatever bullshit they usually play at 9pm on a friday

ultra nate dogg (history mayne), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

i'm voting the pizza i had for lunch for "budweiser man of the match"

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

offside saves cole from giving away the pen

Gohamist (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

no offside, deflected off english player

sonderangerbot, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

i'm voting the pizza i had for lunch for "budweiser man of the match"

Yeah, I was thinking, 'Can I vote for vuvuzela blower #14,346?'

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

Has anyone enterprising individual made a vuvuzela dubstep track yet? I'm listening to some pirate station at the same time as watching this and it's oddly fitting.

James Mitchell, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

algeria gonna win now i suppose

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

I asked this question in another thread and was referred here.

Hey, is this year's World Cup extra popular? I ask b/c this year I have noticed a ton of interest in it, both from friends and acquaintances and from sports bars and the general American public.

This is attributable to:

1. My suddenly noticing what has been there forever
2. Suddenly knowing more soccer fans
3. Soccer having become more popular amongst Americans
4. This year's WC being extra popular

fabulous mussels (Jesse), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

xp pretty sure we'll have a chris corsano/vuvuzela orchestra album out by the end of summer

sonderangerbot, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

3. Soccer having become more popular amongst Americans

this must be it for you. the WC is the biggest deal on earth every time it rolls round tbh

Gohamist (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

jesse, a mix of 2, 3, and 4.

156, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

I think each world cup gets a little more popular than the one before. I still don't think most Americans give a shit about soccer outside of the world cup tbh.

contraceptive lipstick (askance johnson), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

5. Vuvuzelas.

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

can they just change the rules so it's like boxing and just ask the refs to decide who sucked less

get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

I'm going to feel depressed if England win, lose or draw now - we've had the better chances but in terms of skill, creativity, flair, even technique algeria have offered so so much more :(

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

lots of england players not really looking too bothered

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

It's like England fielded a team of winded middle-aged accountants.

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

Either not bothered or just plain knackered.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

this is starting to remind me horribly of the Croatia game - like, you can't believe how bad they are, only it keeps getting worse

otmfm

Not the real Village People, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

also yeah Americans care a little about soccer during the cup & not at all the rest of the time & actually there's nothing wrong w/that imo

get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

FUCKIN PLAY SOMETHING SAX MAN

ultra nate dogg (history mayne), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

A friend and I tried to go to a bar to watch a Very Important baseball game (Cubs/Sox - Crosstown Classic) and ALL of the bars were playing the WC instead of a really big deal local game. In past years, these same bars might have devoted one screen to the WC, but not made it an event.

America catches on, finally, I guess.

fabulous mussels (Jesse), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

also yeah Americans care a little about soccer during the cup & not at all the rest of the time & actually there's nothing wrong w/that imo

lolrong

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

("not at all the rest of the time" that is)

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

Ugh. The bar across the street from my work is showing the WC and there are TONS and TONS of people honking vuvuzelas non-stop.

fabulous mussels (Jesse), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

An England goal now actually wouldn't make a whole lot of difference to what's required in the last game - a victory needed for certain qualification either way.

if, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

Does anyone think fitness is an issue for England? I noticed they looked really shot starting around the 70th min or so vs US, sounds like it's happening again.

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

England can hardly manage a cross, let alone a victory. I hate to think of another game of...this.

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

xxp Yes but the USA just lost 2-2 against Slovenia.

James Mitchell, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

Please don't let there be a man of the match award. There really isn't one, on either team.

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

yeah they were totally owning the pitch up till that point

xp

ultra nate dogg (history mayne), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

yeah dan there's ppl who love soccer obviously! (esp. youth soccer whole different deal) but the # of americans who care about soccer is suddenly huge during the cup -- which I think is fine, there's nothing wrong with sitting up & taking notice during playoffs/championships & not really paying any mind the rest of the time

get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

I partially credit "Beckam" becoming a household name.

fabulous mussels (Jesse), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)

if the world cup happened every year, americans would have more interest. alt: if we were a timezone where we could watch the euro leagues.

iatee, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

but yeah...one thing that foreigners fail to accept is how many rad sports americans already have, but one thing that americans fail to accept is that you can never be a fan of too many rad sports

iatee, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

A friend and I tried to go to a bar to watch a Very Important baseball game (Cubs/Sox - Crosstown Classic) and ALL of the bars were playing the WC instead of a really big deal local game. In past years, these same bars might have devoted one screen to the WC, but not made it an event.

I was walking around downtown yesterday around 3 PM and was surprised to see a bunch of bars/restaurants with the World Cup on. Later I wondered if it was because it was the France-Mexico match.

jaymc, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

surely you mean "Beckman"

xp but tons of people watch euro leagues! maybe I just hang out with a lot of fanatics but I know many folks who are up at 6 AM on Saturdays for lolverpool etc

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

PLUCKY DESSERT FOXES WILL BE DELIGHTED WITH THIS FANTASTIC RESULT, HOLDING ON FOR A BRAVE STALEMATE AGAINST MONTY AND HIS BOYS

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

I'm genuinely surprised to learn that the WC doesn't happen every year!

xp - I don't get the joke re Beckman.

fabulous mussels (Jesse), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

Oh hooray, it's the Carling ad!

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

well that helps us a bit, thx for not scoring

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

I think the percentage of americans who watch any kind of soccer outside of the world cup (and maybe the olympics) is very small.

contraceptive lipstick (askance johnson), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

With Fox Sports, Spanish cable stations and the internet, it's so much easier to follow soccer than it used to be.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

i feel bad for steve mcananananaman u_u

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

glad i didn't have to wake up early in the morning to see that

mookieproof, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

jesse - that might be why this one seems a bigger deal than last year's!

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

This is how England are at world cups - they will beat Slovenia and may yet even still win the group. Everything is still okay.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

if they went home with three draws it wouldn't be the most shocking thing ever

sharpening into understatement

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

can they deduct a goal for a poor showing? jesus.

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

I think every four years it becomes harder to ignore what the rest of the world is doing.

But England... so cranky at you.

Popture, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

Think England are the technically poorest team at this tournament - haven't seen any other side make so many poor/failed passes.

Stevie T, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

alt: if we were a timezone where we could watch the euro leagues.

Really? Americans don't really have much of a habit of following team sports in other countries, even when they're sports that we otherwise care about. It's not like we're really keyed into the European basketball leagues or baseball's Japan League.

jaymc, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

haha, the Algerians in my building are going crazy---tying England is the new winning, I guess

Euler, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

Not knowing soccer is one thing that makes me feel truly American. I'm not saying I'm proud of my ignorance, but it is a connection I have with my people.

fabulous mussels (Jesse), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

MacManaman bringing the lols

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

lol @ macca referring to US as a poor team

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

man if Japan league had its own channel I would pay for it & watch the hell out of it

get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

ditto with Euro/Scando hockey

get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

So what does this mean for USA's chances of advancing?If they beat Algeria are they in? Could they get via a draw with Algeria?

contraceptive lipstick (askance johnson), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

Think England are the technically poorest team at this tournament - haven't seen any other side make so many poor/failed passes.

― Stevie T, den 18 juni 2010 22:24 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah. part of me want to say spain but this was certainly worse

sonderangerbot, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

Not knowing soccer is one thing that makes me feel truly American.

the European equivalent of this is making a big show of how you think American football sucks

get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

Really? Americans don't really have much of a habit of following team sports in other countries, even when they're sports that we otherwise care about. It's not like we're really keyed into the European basketball leagues or baseball's Japan League.

I think if either were completely at par w/ the american leagues we might? otherwise it's just like watching minor league sports.

iatee, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

espn3 does carry the KHL (russian/ukraine league) -- fun to watch

xposts to aerosmith

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

lol rooney giving it lip after his tremendous Ballon d'Or winning hattrick.

James Mitchell, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

so can I make joeks about Rooney being a "world class" player now w/o getting sb'd? :D

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

loooooooooooool "nice to see the home fans booing us". muahahahaha no shit wazza.

Steve what was missing? GOALS.

I got 7-1 xpost.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

espn3 does carry the KHL (russian/ukraine league) -- fun to watch

time-warner cable is the worst thing in the world I fear so I can only marvel at this posited "espn3"

get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

so can I make joeks about Rooney being a "world class" player now w/o getting sb'd? :D

― dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:28 (7 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

But there has never been a better right back?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

So what does this mean for USA's chances of advancing?If they beat Algeria are they in? Could they get via a draw with Algeria?

Yes to the win, and as long as England don't win or draw with Slovenia and score 2 goals more than the US, yes to the draw.

if, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

(so uh it turns out that this group was 4 evenly matched teams? do algeria go through if they beat usa?)

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

Jeez, that was awful it was like watching Hull holding Arsenal to a draw though England aren't anywhere as entertaining as Arsenal.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

I think if either were completely at par w/ the american leagues we might? otherwise it's just like watching minor league sports.

naw dude - Japanese baseball is fucking awesome, and as for Euro hockey, where do half the best players in the NHL come from? Americans are just kinda "I prefer to watch Americans," period

get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

So what does this mean for USA's chances of advancing?If they beat Algeria are they in? Could they get via a draw with Algeria?

only if england draws too (which seems like a possibility now...) then it's 5-3-3-2 and it's on goals I guess?

iatee, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

itv's coverage is rubbish. 'we can't understand why they are like that'. really? really? you can't understand passionless players more worried about whether their wives have slept with the person you are passing to than what vegetable the sun will photoshop your face onto?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

algeria can only go through if both they and slovenia win (i think i have that right)

156, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

Jeez, that was awful it was like watching Hull holding Arsenal to a draw though EnglandAlgeria aren't anywhere as entertaining as Arsenal.

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lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

My problem w/Heskey has always been that playing him, you tend to play hail-Mary long balls up to him to hold for a midfield or other striker who doesn't seem to want run or be able to.

― If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 19:52 (30 minutes ago) Bookmark

Completely OTM. English players cannot resist a 6ft striker in the distance, regardless of his aerial ability. Crouch is a fine striker, but Spurs tend to play a terrible long ball game whenever he's on the pitch.

Can't see why SWP was any kind of a swap for Lennon- If you want to change, then it had to have been J Cole, surely.

Every Spurs player bar Crouch should start the next game.

Gerrard- "We have to beat Algeria" Yeah man, you 'had' to finish 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th at various stages of last season too.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

Lol Johnny Giles' theory, might be wortha think-

"They look great for their clubs Bill, but that's because they're surrounded by good players. With England, they've only got each other."

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

naw dude - Japanese baseball is fucking awesome, and as for Euro hockey, where do half the best players in the NHL come from? Americans are just kinda "I prefer to watch Americans," period

I'm not an expert but from what I've read the japanese league skill is considered worse than our major league and better than any minor league?

"I prefer to watch Americans," period

not sure any baseball or hockey fan can say that...

iatee, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)

clodspeed, Engerland

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

I think paying attention to soccer would be great but outside of the big Cups, e.g. WC or Euro, I don't really know what to focus on---there seem to be a million different leagues, considering both Europe and Latin America, for instance. and when I buy a FIFA game it's like there are 300 teams in 20 leagues and I just want to know which is the equiv of the NFL or even just the Patriots or whatever.

Euler, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

It would kind of be awesome if both England + USA lost their next games and Algeria and Slovenia move on!

contraceptive lipstick (askance johnson), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

Spanish League, Euler.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

NOT IN A GOOD MOMENT, IT'S OFFICIAL

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:36 (fifteen years ago)

I just want to know which is the equiv of the NFL or even just the Patriots or whatever.

This is the Champion's League (which is transnational) - patriots are probably Man United.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

my buddy pulls for AC Milan---what league is that in? I just loaded up the wiki page and there's talk of "world titles" and the "Intercontinental Cup" and the "FIFA Club World Cup" and the "European Cup/Champions Leagues" and the "European Super Cup" and "Cup Winners' Cup" (love that) and I just have no idea what is going on.

Euler, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

Also the UEFA Cup is a big deal.

jaymc, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

(Not sure if that was already covered by one of those other ones.)

jaymc, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

2-2 England v Slovenia, goalless between Algeria and USA = drawing lots. MAKE IT SO. (thanks Adrian and the ITV spods, I couldn't be arsed working it out)

There isn't a UEFA Cup any more, btw.

ailsa, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

Oh!
http://skepacabra.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/the-more-you-know.jpg

jaymc, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

It would kind of be awesome if both England + USA lost their next games and Algeria and Slovenia move on!

watch it, bub

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

AC Milan play in the Italian league ("Scudetto") - if they do well enough in that (they basically always do) they're invited to next year's Champions League (formerly known as the European Cup), which occurs concurrently with the Scudetto.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)

UEFA is now Europa League. It's the European club competition you get into if you aren't good enough to get into the Champions League (which isn't just for champions).

ailsa, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)

Euler-

Serie A (Italian top league) is the main domestic competition for AC Milan. They're a huge team, maybe not so great at the moment.

The European Cup/Champion's League is the inter-continental competition that the biggest teams get to play in during the season at intermittent stages.

Liverpool are a team in England that are absolute rubbish, you should follow them for pure lols.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

Occasionally a team can win the Champions League/European Cup without also winning their own domestic league that year (Liverpool did this), but it's rare - normally it means that you're the best side in Europe.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

ok I will look up the Champions League & maybe start paying attention to this! thanks for help with this Tuomistic episode

Euler, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)

I made a flow-chart once of the major geographical tournaments and what alternate tournaments they feed into/exist alongside of. I think I lost it, though.

Wikipedia is your friend here.

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)

The "Super Cup" is a daftness whereby the Champions League winner plays against the UEFA Cup Winner/ South American Champion/ whatever in a match no-one really cares about.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)

what puts me off int'l soccer is that it's even more $$$$-based than any american sport, which is sorta incredible

iatee, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)

darraghmac, I have nothing against the long ball as long as it's an attacking option amongst others but you can see teams get stuck in a certain tactical rut and, like the proverbial insame person who keeps doing the same thing over and over with the hope that it will result in something new, get more and more frustrated and less and less creative. Sure, it's tactically the Mgr's repsonsibility to change the tactics or make subs, but any team that looks so one sided is unlikely to intimidate the other side and put them on their back feet.

Based on pure psychology alone, I'd start Cole and start someone besides Heskey against Slovenia. The US fought back to day, despite some typical defensive naivete by playing a much more athletic game than I can imagine England doing (and at sea level - what happens if England do get through and have to play at elevation). Why Capello chose Heskey ahead of Bent baffles me.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)

England worst team in this group if not the whole tournament. Like a Sunday League team after a heavy night on the ale (except they're feeling guilty about getting so ratted cos this is a local Cup semi and they've all promised their kids a trip to Edgeley Park for the final, so they're actually trying, y'know).

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:45 (fifteen years ago)

How anyone who saw that game can want Algeria to go through is beyond me.

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:45 (fifteen years ago)

The European Cup/Champion's League is the inter-continental competition that the biggest richest teams get to play in during the season at intermittent stages.

ailsa, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:45 (fifteen years ago)

itv's coverage is rubbish. 'we can't understand why they are like that'. really? really? you can't understand passionless players more worried about whether their wives have slept with the person you are passing to than what vegetable the sun will photoshop your face onto?

Given some of the reactions at the end they are passionate...but that of course has never been enough and never will be.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)

This thread is a handy primer, Who wants to answer my stupid American questions about English football

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)

Except in a "Schweinsteiger gets so fucked off he chins Ziani" way.

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)

"They look great for their clubs Bill, but that's because they're surrounded by good players. With England, they've only got each other."

Also this...

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)

How anyone who saw that game can want AlgeriaEngland to go through is beyond me.
srsly

atoms breaking heart (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)

Well, no, they were both shit. Algeria were just shit at higher speed.

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

xp to M White-

exactly, the big striker is ok as an option, but when it's the default for a team of multimillion pound footballers, there's something deeply wrong.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

algeria were playing like an average team who wanted to be great. england were playing like an average team who wanted to be average.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah - England wouldn't always look so *shook* when something goes wrong if they genuinely didn't care? They just care in the wrong way somehow.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)

my foreigner's sense of euro-ish leagues:

premiership is always won by chelsea, arsenal or man u; liverpool elsewhere in top four
scotland is always won by celtic or rangers
spain is always won by barcelona or madrid
italy is always won by ac milan, maybe
no idea about france or netherlands (ajax?) or bundesliga

teach me

mookieproof, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)

What England need is someone from Slovenia or the U.S. or whatnot to come and tell them they're not all that and that only by playing with heart not just with the reputation they have from their money and fancy clubs.

Luckily, darraghmac, no-one has ever seen England play that way so they're all still surprised. ;)

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)

I thought Algeria were fun to watch - if I wasn't English I'd have been rooting for them? What did you hate so much about them WBS?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)

So much for Rooneys "we don't have to be on form to beat Algeria" yesterday. Actually Wayne....

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

bundesliga is most wide open of the big euro leagues and therefore my favorite

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

you're pretty much otm mookie

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

here's a quote from landon

At the end, I decided to aim high, and aim at his head. I don't think he wanted to get hit in the head.''

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

http://notquiteamerican.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/goalposter.jpg

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

xpost Love Bundesliga

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

algeria played plenty of quick one-touch stuff with good movement.

if they had a focal point up front, they'd be a prospect but they don't appear to on that showing- but that may have been a conscious tactic to neutralise england.

but to claim that they were as inept as england in the game that i'd guess most people posting on this thread just saw- that's a bit cheeky imo.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

mookie - italy for the last four years has been dominated by inter, who were also European champions this year - but their amazing manager (who has not lost a game at home - in 40 game seasons! - since 2003) has just left for real madrid, so other sides will fancy their chances next year.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

they were as inept, moreso in fact, but at least they had some ambition.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

mookie otm

bundesliga is a big coming league imo, wealthy, well attended, has a superclub but is still v competitive. football isn't maybe of great standard, but seems v attacking oriented and is entertaining.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

premiership is always won by chelsea, arsenal or man u; liverpool elsewhere in top four - basically true
scotland is always won by celtic or rangers - true
spain is always won by barcelona or madrid - Real Madrid, you mean. Yeah.
italy is always won by ac milan, maybe - Roma and Juve in contention. I remember when Fiorentino were tops, tho
no idea about france or netherlands (ajax?) or bundesliga

France - Lyon mostly
Bundesliga - Bayern Munich
Argentina - River Plate or Boca, though Juniors won last

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

That was the worst England performance I can remember. Given that Algeria offered precisely nothing... There's just nothing that can be done if they're all going to play like that. Rooney is looking like the biggest flop of thois World Cup. This time in 2006 we had six points. and that was shit.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

bulgaria - real sofia
romania - rapid bucharest
poland - lech walesa
yugoslavia - red star belgrade
czechoslovakia - sparta prague
ussr - spartak moscow

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)

Wouldn't be surprised if all the flags came down by tomorrow.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

I cannot believe Gerrard called that "Algeria's World Cup Final". Prick! Algeria have played a bigger game than that this season in Cup of Nations semi.

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

What on gods oily planet are they going to show in the highlights for this?

not_goodwin, Friday, 18 June 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

Spain, England and France looking dire. Germany suddenly off the tracks. Portugal held to a draw. Where do Europe's hopes lie? Dull Italy? Perennial bad luckers, Netherlands?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

rooney slagging off fans, then swearing

hope he kept that caravan from the advert for when the tabloids is done with em

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

xpost
Plucky Switzerland?

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

Actually thought Germany looked several leagues better than Eng today even in defeat

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

I only care about New Europe

admrl, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

I don't give a damn about the World Cup, but England losing something is always a treat.

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

Yep. Awful, awful stuff. After Rooney's petulant outburst at the end I'm not even sure if I want to care anymore.

kraudive, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

This might end up being a S.American/Hispanic dominated cup:

Uruguay
Argentina
Brazil
Mexico

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

Rooney can't have petulant outbursts unless he's actually done something, anything. He was completely pedestrian today.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

i can't believe i'm the first to say it, but capello out

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

(who'm i kidding, i was always gonna be the first)

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

Wasn't Der Kaiser just slagging off Capello's England?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

(For people interested in the Champions League: here's a list of the teams involved: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%9311_UEFA_Champions_League#Teams - the first group contains the serious contenders)

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

Svennis' Ivory Coast get a result on Sunday vs Brazil and watch the tabloid lols

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

haha

admrl, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:05 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah Germany were fine, and Italy could improve, as Spain should.

But my oh my England. So anemic, not quite expected them to perform this badly given the way the qualification campaign went along (unlike where you totally expected this).

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

Unlike France, i meant

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

Also via the French WC2010 song, some new vocab that I will share with you:

Talonade is a 'back heel'.
Pichenette is a 'flick'
Petit pont is a 'nutmeg'.
Papinades comes from Jean-Pierre Papin's prodigious ability to shoot volleys - hence 'volleys'.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

Did anyone else spot a St. George's flag with NF on it in one of the crowd shots? maybe it was a Forest flag..... hope so...

sonofstan, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

If England qualify to play a club worthy of their golden generation raising their game, they'll improve enough to take it to penalties.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

Svennis' Ivory Coast get a result on Sunday vs Brazil and watch the tabloid lols

Yeah, but did you see him at Mexico?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

Keep hearing people say they can't deal with the expectations. What expectations?? Is getting out of the group really that high an expectation? Passing the ball? Creating chances?

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:08 (fifteen years ago)

^^^good times xp

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

Watching the highlights on BBC, and rly Lennon is the most channel through which something was gonna happen in the 1st half.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

they=thee players
people=5live types
xpost

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

"They look great for their clubs Bill, but that's because they're surrounded by good players. With England, they've only got each other."

It's enough to make you wonder if there's some kind of home advantage/away disadvantage to playing in yr own country - that Lampard looks a more complete player than Park Ji Sung in the premier league, but if they both played in Korea it'd somehow be the other way around? I'm just spouting nonsense here - I really cannot understand how England were so bad this game.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:13 (fifteen years ago)

Also via the French WC2010 song, some new vocab that I will share with you:

Talonade is a 'back heel'.
Pichenette is a 'flick'
Petit pont is a 'nutmeg'.
Papinades comes from Jean-Pierre Papin's prodigious ability to shoot volleys - hence 'volleys'.

― If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, June 18, 2010 9:06 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

All these are wonderful and I will be incorporating them into my self commentaries on Pro Evo

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:13 (fifteen years ago)

that Lampard looks a more complete player than Park Ji Sung in the premier league,

both consistent, both reliable, both put in a shift, but sung park don't have three world class babysitters.

england players in england are coddled and tolerated on the pitch by more tactically aware housekeepers, and i think that there's a big element of truth in what giles said.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:14 (fifteen years ago)

papin's ability to volley the ball from stright-on was one of the first great skills i tried to emulate on the schoolyard

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:15 (fifteen years ago)

England's poor performances the $64 dollar question says Lee Dixon

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:16 (fifteen years ago)

http://cdn.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/the-sun-world-cup-2010.jpg

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:16 (fifteen years ago)

I dunno. Park is more aggressive going forward and is probably a better tackler than Lampard but doesn't quite have his shot.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:16 (fifteen years ago)

Bent, Huddlestone on the pitch for Heskey/Lampard halfway through that match- big improvement

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01068/supersplash_sport__1068487a.jpg

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

<3ing slovenia keeper's expression here

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/7043/lando.jpg

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

papin's ability to volley the ball from stright-on was one of the first great skills i tried to emulate on the schoolyard

I saw Ginola manage a couple good ones, too.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

dan, did you see the interview where Donovon said he aimed at his head?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:18 (fifteen years ago)

highlight of game for england: rob green on bench?

mookieproof, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:18 (fifteen years ago)

Gerrard w/o Hamaan or Alonso was shite this year
xpost

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:19 (fifteen years ago)

ha that sun jpg is (exactly?) from the inarritu nike commercial!

goole, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:19 (fifteen years ago)

God, Rooney as an old man will be the stuff of nightmares, if he isn't already.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:19 (fifteen years ago)

any lipreaders worked out what Fabio said to Stevie G when he had his hand on his shoulder and was laying some shit down on him?

ailsa, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:19 (fifteen years ago)

Michael-

had a massive auld discussion of lampard on a lazy sunday a few weeks back on the WC preliminary thread i think. he's great, we decided- his nerve, focus and consistency in making things happen are unmatched in the squad capello has to pick from. but it's obviously not happening for him in the england xi

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:20 (fifteen years ago)

xps to MW, no, I had to hot-tail it to work immediately after the whistle

now they're saying the ref called a foul on Bocanegra, still don't really buy it: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/18/AR2010061803437.html

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:20 (fifteen years ago)

xp threatening him with a pancake i reckon

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:20 (fifteen years ago)

oh ITVpaws, Helmand-tent-cam "they know what it's like to serve their country in a difficult place far from home"

ailsa, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:22 (fifteen years ago)

PLEASE STOP TALKING TO GARETH BARRY.

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)

God, that Slovenia box looks like a bathhouse on a Saturday night.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)

(This is on BBC2 hilites, btw. Which... I think, isn't actually going to show the Slovenia-US game. Having already announced the result of the match. Fuck's sakes.)

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)

but it's obviously not happening for him in the england xi

Didn't Capello try putting Carrick behind Gerrard and Lampard so they could move out and forward w/less fear at some friendly or qualifier?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)

No, here's the goals. Still, extended highlights of it on the website, which I suppose is fair enough.

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)

Capello tried a lot of things wo accomodate both gerrard and lampard in the same midfield, but lampard relies an awful lot on the off-the-ball movement around him, and .......well

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

They just don't play the same game do they?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:29 (fifteen years ago)

England don't like the diamond as I recall right?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)

England don't have a defensive midfielder.

Giles again OTM re- wingers. Paraphrasing, again-

"I don't rate england's wingers, they're all brainless. All wingers are a bit brainless, Bill, but the useful ones at least beat their man and get the ball in to the box." Basically, Capello is picking players to suit a system that the players don't suit- hence Cole on the bench, Heskey in the team and Lampard/Gerrard a shadow of their club selves.

But then, they cruised through qualifying, and Capello is as unquestionable as managers get.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

http://imgur.com/L67Ef.jpg

James Mitchell, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:35 (fifteen years ago)

Whos the best option for left winger? Is there ever a good one?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:35 (fifteen years ago)

He was sent home, I think, in favour of bringing SWP

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)

No left winger, Michael. Never has been.

Need to drop Rooney to bench - don't know if he's not fit, or it's a mental thing, it doesn't matter. Crouch and Defoe up front. J Cole in for Lampard. Dawson for Carra.

Get the strikers playing closer together and tell Lennon, Johnson and both Coles to get in the bloody box as often as possible.

Wright-Phillips - WHY? He's like a schoolkid - boot it miles ahead, run into defender, lose it, fall over, wave arms about. Fucking shit.

Dr.C, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)

nate silver's odds:

Should the 0-0 result hold, #USA will have about a 70% chance of advancing, #SVN about 65%, and #ENG only about 55%. about 1 hour ago reply

iatee, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:41 (fifteen years ago)

rooney hasn't scored in 11 hours for england.

Dr C otm for everything, I think- If Capello picks on form like he claims, then every squad player should be getting ready for an appearance the next night

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:42 (fifteen years ago)

Need to drop Rooney to bench - don't know if he's not fit, or it's a mental thing, it doesn't matter. Crouch and Defoe up front. J Cole in for Lampard. Dawson for Carra.

Well he can't use Carra anyway. How fit is Joe? I think I saw him against Mexico in the friendly.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:45 (fifteen years ago)

In which he appeared and was england's only creative outlet.

gerrard, in the current formation, is the midfield's problem. he comes inside, everyone knows he comes inside, it gets cluttered, everything moves 15 feet to the right and lennon doesn't have space to move. lampard and barry left passing to rooney or heskey directly, which they're not even doing very well tbh.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

Hm combined 'wisdom' of BBC and ITV pundits seems to be that Capello MUST play Gerrard just off the striker, his 'best' position apparently. Which is strange 'cos Sky have been telliing me for years that centre mid is his best position and RipRafa just insisted on playing him out of position.

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:50 (fifteen years ago)

Perhaps I am missing the point of the tournament here, but what kind of bird was that?

atoms breaking heart (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

One good sequence w/Gerrard and Defoe today.

England should fund a secret genetic lab to breed left-handed athletes who can then be turned into proper left wingers. As little as I think of Cashley, I have often wondered what he'd look like as an out and out winger.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

http://i47.tinypic.com/2q010si.jpg

moullet, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

Perhaps I am missing the point of the tournament here, but what kind of bird was that?

An Auspice

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:52 (fifteen years ago)

That's such a spectacular faceplant for Clint.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:53 (fifteen years ago)

Capello has lots of problems to solve that I have no idea of the answer to, Lampard & Gerrard etc, central defence, strikers, but the Joe Cole thing is completely inexplicable to me - I can't think of one situation - 2-0 down or 3-2 up, against New Zealand or against Brazil - when I wouldn't rather see Cole on the pitch than SWP.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:54 (fifteen years ago)

haha zung. (xxp)

atoms breaking heart (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:54 (fifteen years ago)

(gif needs commentator saying "I don't know why he's holding his face" for full effect)

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:55 (fifteen years ago)

not to defend rafa or anything, but gerrard is probably best behind rooney in a supporting striker's role- that's dependent on

i) england having a passer (ie huddlestone) in central midfield
ii)england having a screening player in central midfield (barry?)

not sure where lampard fits into that.

but seriously, with ashley cole and glen johnson, wingbacks are a far better option than wingers

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:55 (fifteen years ago)

Really enjoying the carnival of ineptitude and recrimination.

Love David James' blank / sarcastic interview - have people discussed this already?

Listening to R5 tonight, felt like beginning of the end of the Capello era. But things can change and football is full of contingencies.

the pinefox, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:55 (fifteen years ago)

(carnival = media, fans)

the pinefox, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:56 (fifteen years ago)

Gravel, I agree about Cole over SWP. Apart from injury, was there any other reason he wasn't playing for Chelsea?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:56 (fifteen years ago)

xxxp uh i say he's best behind rooney, that should be behind a striker like torres. no idea how gerrard/rooney would work out as a partnership, but i'd imagine they'd frustrate the fuck out of a midfielder hoping to know where they were without having to look up.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:57 (fifteen years ago)

Love David James' blank / sarcastic interview - have people discussed this already?

I haven't, alas. I thought James looked a bit iffy at times.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:57 (fifteen years ago)

they never asked gordon banks to played behind glen johnson, jamie carragher and john terry

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)

Thirded on SWP. J Cole class above him at least.

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)

You must hear it. BBC.

BBC: 'The manager says the players seem to be playing with pressure'.

DJ: 'DOES he.'

the pinefox, Friday, 18 June 2010 22:01 (fifteen years ago)

xp heh if you're claiming thirded you've been skipping the queue

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, 18 June 2010 22:02 (fifteen years ago)

James was told that Capello thought the players played like they felt the pressure. His responsive a drawn out uber sarcastic "oh really"

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 22:02 (fifteen years ago)

xp heh if you're claiming thirded you've been skipping the queue

― Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Friday, June 18, 2010 10:02 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark

heh Fifthed?? Sixthed?

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)

Pinefox's version more accurate than mine now that I think about it

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 22:04 (fifteen years ago)

Link to this David James interview please?

Chris, Friday, 18 June 2010 22:09 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8749208.stm

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 18 June 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago)

I may be wrong but I don't think that's the one. DJ gave one for BBC TV where he talked about Algeria being defensive but also gave a radio one where he did the whole "DOES he" thing.

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)

Cannot play media. Sorry, this media is not available in your territory.

=(

xp

admrl, Friday, 18 June 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)

I seem to recall Sven getting untold stick for playing Rooney as lone striker at last WC now Capello getting stick for not.

back-to-the-museum (pandemic), Friday, 18 June 2010 22:30 (fifteen years ago)

I can't believe Capello's getting less out of these guys than Sven did.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 June 2010 22:35 (fifteen years ago)

Yes DJ on radio being sarcastic vs Capello. Knowing DJ as we do, I'm pretty sure he's trying to make some kind of point, though in a way that can't then be pinned on him.

I expect he donated the fees for these interviews to a charity of his choice.

the pinefox, Friday, 18 June 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

don't really agree with DJ re defensive Algeria

tend to agree with Waddle (and implicitly Stevie T) that Algeria looked better than England.

the pinefox, Friday, 18 June 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

They looked mnore confident and more dangerous and they kept their heads better but both sides looked pretty bad.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Friday, 18 June 2010 22:45 (fifteen years ago)

classic Matt Smith tonight.

start of highlights: "let's all watch England together, then"

end: "England, England ... have we been kidding ourselves all these years?

On tonight's evidence ...

Yes."

the pinefox, Friday, 18 June 2010 22:53 (fifteen years ago)

http://s827.photobucket.com/albums/zz196/BillMcComish/sunheadline.jpg

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)

(could just as easily be "Slovenians")

dan m, Friday, 18 June 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)

Whoops it seems I happened to put about £10 on Switzerland as champions at odds of 170. GO DERDIYOK! Probably dumb thing to do; I will be right though.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:04 (fifteen years ago)

they're going home
they're going home
they're going
englands going home

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:08 (fifteen years ago)

it will be like england 5 algeria 1

― Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic)

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:10 (fifteen years ago)

fuck england as a staff, record label and as a motherfucking crew. And if you're down with England: fuck you too.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:11 (fifteen years ago)

xacly

nakhchivan, Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:14 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk6VRc-V4Mc

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:14 (fifteen years ago)

Never in the field of football conflict have so many idiots been so deluded for so many days

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:15 (fifteen years ago)

also germany were waste today, and kinda lol kinda sad that serbia had to split w/ montenegro and lose their only two good forwards

nakhchivan, Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:18 (fifteen years ago)

my facebook trolling around five minutes into 2nd half:

the boys seem a bit indecisive & trepidous in the attack phase I think, I'm not sure why, this opposition is nothing to be scared of, it's 44 years since they won the thing

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:22 (fifteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/jQbGW.jpg

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:22 (fifteen years ago)

(trolling directly inspired by, and totally overshadowed by, that awesome awesome Faroes-Scotland radio phone-in or whatever it was btw)

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:24 (fifteen years ago)

don't think germany were too bad, muller & particularly podolski had bad days is all, + 10 men.

Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:31 (fifteen years ago)

like podolski had how many chances plus the missed pen

Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:32 (fifteen years ago)

I don't know, how many chances = 1 goal?

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:33 (fifteen years ago)

waht

Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:34 (fifteen years ago)

Switzerland's for the taking. :D

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:36 (fifteen years ago)

The sooner games are scored by the moral pools panel the happier everybody will be.

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:37 (fifteen years ago)

i just mean if he had chances u could say they were playing ok & he prob won't be always at the end of chances & missing them in future games?

Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:40 (fifteen years ago)

podolski was alright apart from the penalty, he cld at least time a few runs btwn ivanovic and vidic/subotic unlike marin who was total shit

nakhchivan, Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:42 (fifteen years ago)

disagree that not scoring = they were waste today

Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:43 (fifteen years ago)

sorry yeah I am drunkenly slow. still, you don't take the chances = there might as well be no chances

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:44 (fifteen years ago)

surprised they didn't do s/thing like this as soon as klose went

           gomez

podolski ozil schweinsteiger

khedira

nakhchivan, Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:44 (fifteen years ago)

they did fuck all even w/ xi tho

nakhchivan, Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:45 (fifteen years ago)

They looked a different side today, no real zip or movement.

As opposed to England who looked the same as Saturday except even more fucking useless

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:46 (fifteen years ago)

who looks the best in it to you at this stage? i say argentina & still germany above brazil and whoever

Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:52 (fifteen years ago)

Germany have big question mark after today. Argentina still shonky at the back but cd probably score more than you even if they conceded. Brazil boringly look solid at the back plus ability to break down anybody but in a non-flashy manner. If you forced me to bet, that is.

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:55 (fifteen years ago)

feels a bit boring/inattentive that we're looking @ the established international sides

nakhchivan has gone v quiet.

Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, 19 June 2010 01:05 (fifteen years ago)

It is v. boring looking at the established international sides to find the winner of a competition that only 7 countries have won in 80 years but whadda ya gonna do?

Higuain in the Membrane (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 01:11 (fifteen years ago)

% ≈

25 brazil
20 spain
15 argentina
12 germany
10 holland

imo

― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 22:20 (3 days ago)

xp

nakhchivan, Saturday, 19 June 2010 01:17 (fifteen years ago)

it will be like england 5 algeria 1

― Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic)

― Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 19 June 2010 01:10 (1 hour ago)

lol I'm supporting Germany now

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 01:26 (fifteen years ago)

~writes germany off~

Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, 19 June 2010 01:27 (fifteen years ago)

reminded tonight of just how fucking dull england are really, and only getting worse every year

go O and O (Ste), Saturday, 19 June 2010 01:50 (fifteen years ago)

where is the love for mexico, i ask?

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 02:21 (fifteen years ago)

one fo the cinemas here is showing games in ~3D~ so,

1. do I go

2. which of these:

3D World Cup – Netherlands vs Japan

3D World Cup – Brazil vs Cote d’lvoire

3D World Cup – Spain vs Honduras

3D World Cup – Nigeria vs Korea Repulic

3D World Cup – Ghana vs Germany

3D World Cup – Slovakia vs Italy

dyao, Saturday, 19 June 2010 02:41 (fifteen years ago)

are the headlines this morning the worst press reaction from the tabloids *ever* to an england game, and if so what good can it do? i never understood the positive hysteria in the run up to world cups but this year the whole hype has been bloody bananas. the disparity between that and what's gone on since saturday's game has me racking my brains about the whole shooting match. i could understand all that front page 'england expects' / 3 lions/ rooney wrapped in a flag 24-page analysis guff from a few weeks ago if they were prepared to be encouraging when they're shit but why do they turn on the players/ team so quickly? why bother putting all that hype in place from the get go if it all turns so nasty because of a 0-0 draw?

maybe i'm just not meant to 'get' football and certainly not it's relationship with the press. i mean what happens when they win the next game and get through?
is it back to 'england expects'/ lions/ flags etc again the next day?!

piscesx, Saturday, 19 June 2010 02:49 (fifteen years ago)

3D World Cup – Brazil vs Cote d’lvoire

duh

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 03:04 (fifteen years ago)

or

3D World Cup – Ghana vs Germany

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 03:04 (fifteen years ago)

Held to a 0-0 draw against African minnows Algeria, a clearly frustrated Rooney was heard to say: "Nice to hear your own fans booing you, that's loyal supporters."

156, Saturday, 19 June 2010 03:05 (fifteen years ago)

rooney otm, hate booing

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 03:07 (fifteen years ago)

Booing is fine, if the play is lazy or crapulous. Booing honest effort is not fine.

Aimless, Saturday, 19 June 2010 03:16 (fifteen years ago)

j0rooney otm

iatee, Saturday, 19 June 2010 03:22 (fifteen years ago)

3D Brazil & Cote D'Ivoire! Bring your vuvuzela.

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 19 June 2010 03:47 (fifteen years ago)

that one comes on at 2:30 am in the morning ;_;

dyao, Saturday, 19 June 2010 03:56 (fifteen years ago)

DEAL WITH IT

flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 19 June 2010 04:16 (fifteen years ago)

Call the waaaaambulance & then man up & watch futbol. And possibly take naps :)

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 19 June 2010 05:47 (fifteen years ago)

Holland - Japan looks a highlight.

the pinefox, Saturday, 19 June 2010 08:17 (fifteen years ago)

Can't believe England's own fans were booing that fantastic performance after being given free match tickets and free travel and accommodation. Ungrateful bastards.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 09:09 (fifteen years ago)

ha, idk, i don't have a problem with booing on any moral level, i just don't think it does anyone any good & can obv put more unnecessary pressure on a team

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 09:14 (fifteen years ago)

i don't subscribe to that theory in all situations fwiw... but most of them

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 09:15 (fifteen years ago)

i probably would've booed the french myself

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 09:15 (fifteen years ago)

People were booing in the pub where those feckless cunts couldn't hear us, I think you're entitled to let them know how bad they are if you're at the ground. I agree it doesn't really help but sometimes it's just a natural outpouring of grief. And you could just as easily argue that cheering doesn't help anybody.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 09:18 (fifteen years ago)

If a team of allegedly world class professionals can't deal with the pressure of people expecting them to be able to pass a ball to each other and play effectual football then maybe they should get the fuck out of the game.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 09:20 (fifteen years ago)

i wonder if rooney will flip off the english fans if he scores on wed

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 09:22 (fifteen years ago)

Reasons to be cheerful for England:

- the booing. Backs-against-the-wall no-one-likes-us-we-don't-care is the classic England default position. The players know where they are now.
- Capello's lost the dressing room. Expect a headless chicken performance on Wednesday. Which is good, because if you can't get an assured, controlled performance, headless chicken is the second best English option.
- Heskey had a stinker, Defoe didn't. That ought to mean Defoe & Rooney against Slovenia.
- England do not exit at the first round, ever. Ignore that the team is showing Euro 2000 levels of haplessness, England have got through every first round for about fifty years.
- England do not lose to teams like Slovenia. Ignore defeats to Croatia, Russia, Romania and Ukraine - slovenia are minnows. When the chips are down, England have enough arrogance left to crush more skilful minnows' dreams. That this hasn't happened since 1990 is merely down to adverse draws.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 09:57 (fifteen years ago)

Some people are saying that the English team isn't better than this, but that's just not true. Player by player the English team is a million times better than a decimated Algeria. Just look at what each individual player has accomplished in their careers. Most of the England players are crucial in their club teams who evidently are among the best in the world. Wayne Rooney can recieve a ball. Frank Lampard knows how to pass the ball and Steven Gerrard can shoot. As long as they don't have to wear the England shirt.

Also, having read articles by people saying they miss Sven now. Wtf? If you've followed the English team in any meaningful way in the last years you would realise that sentiment to be wrong. Sven is part of the problmen and nothing else. It was under his reign that this infectious geistlessness was introduced. It was under his reign that everything that was good with the English team started to evaporate while all the bad parts remained.

I think one of the main problems is that England sufferes from producing too similar players. Even if there of course is a big difference between Aaron Lennon and Jamie Carragher, this team still is made up of players who are good at the same things, bad at the same things, who play in the same tempo and view football in pretty much the same way. This makes the team too one-dimensional and explains how a player like Paul Scholes can be missed so much, despite him being past his best.

Secondly, and this I think is far more important, , the English team has been swallowed by the monster it has evolved to. If you look at how the players behaved in this game it's very apparent that none of them thinks this football business is any fun at all. They don't want to be there. They want to be rid of their unreasonable expectations, all the pressure and pathetic media and all the negative that comes with living inside the English football bubble. They want to be rid of themselves. How do you change this?

Lovelace, Saturday, 19 June 2010 10:12 (fifteen years ago)

England do not exit at the first round, ever. Ignore that the team is showing Euro 2000 levels of haplessness, England have got through every first round for about fifty years.

erm...1992?

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 19 June 2010 10:20 (fifteen years ago)

I think Ismael was only talking about WCs - add 1980, 1988 and 2000 to 1992 if yr talking Euro Champs.

Michael Jones, Saturday, 19 June 2010 10:23 (fifteen years ago)

Shit, I didn't realise the Euro record was that bad. Still, the Heskey thing's a positive, right? Unless it just means a Heskey lacking in confidence hiding for 90 mins v Slovenia.

Lovelace's two points are dead-on, btw. Combine the two and, although Rooney, Gerrard, Joe Cole and Walcott rip (in roughly descending order) *are* those types of players at least occasionally, they're scared to be or they're not playing. Also makes the tragedy of Gascoigne all the greater, if you want to go back further.

Speaking of Walcott, although I was initially happy with him not going, I've turned 180 degrees now. Why did Warnock need to be picked? England have had as bad a defensive run of luck as you could wish to see, and still he's nowhere near being needed. And if it did continue, a patchwork defence could barely be worse. The squeeze on ideas is crippling.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 10:40 (fifteen years ago)

Scholes has been a very good player but missing him now makes about as much sense as missing Trevor Steven.

the pinefox, Saturday, 19 June 2010 10:46 (fifteen years ago)

Lovelace- England under Sven the same as England under anyone. Handful of v impressive performances scattered amongst uneffective ones. Draw/lose against the first good team they play and either win (Spain Euro 96) or lose (Portugal 2004/6) on pens. It was ever thus.
As for pressure of expectation I'm pretty sure Brazil, Italy, France have high expectations on them going into tournaments and manage to cope from time to time.
I agree with the players being good at similar things mind you.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 10:53 (fifteen years ago)

what people seem to forget is england were good in the qualifiers, it's not about missing players, it's about the mood in the team nosediving post terrygate and the media vs team war beginning again. there was a few months where the feeling around the team was so positive it was bizarre for this country. the whole team has just troughed in time for the world cup.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 19 June 2010 10:53 (fifteen years ago)

Think Mr Klata's probably right about the positives - but with the chance that this could still turn out like Euro 2000: getting worse not better.

Coming to feel, in jaded age, that analysis of what went wrong, psychology of players etc may be redundant ... D Baker on radio today saying anything can happen, we're dealing with chaos; O'Neill's 'no one knows anything' (to Shearer: 'listen and you might learn something') - this comes to feel quite a workable strategy. It's a game where a little thing can happen and change everything; in another week most current assessments might be forgotten.

Though that chaos theory doesn't explain the consistency of GER, BRA, ARG et al, so maybe no good.

the pinefox, Saturday, 19 June 2010 10:55 (fifteen years ago)

so apparently anelka told domenech to "go fuck yourself you son of a bitch" at half time vs. mexico. He's probably been expelled from the group. good times

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 19 June 2010 10:56 (fifteen years ago)

Disappointed that Ellia not starting today for Netherlands, he made a differnce when he came on vs Denmark. Not sure that Van De Vaart and Shneider work that well in the same team.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:02 (fifteen years ago)

haha xp

how are anelka/henry/ribery seen in france?

nakhchivan, Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:06 (fifteen years ago)

Guardian:
>>> And this is what David James said to BBC Five Live after the game, asked when he learned of his selection: "I found out five minutes before we got on the bus. Usual standard. We train hard now for a few days and wait for the selection again five minutes before we leave again on Wednesday." Asked whether he was close to his fellow goalkeepers, James said: "I'm not close to anyone."

the pinefox, Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:14 (fifteen years ago)

And time once again to support the team thoughtfully named after me.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:15 (fifteen years ago)

jewish american princess ^^

nakhchivan, Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:20 (fifteen years ago)

nakhchivan - anelka/ribery/benzema are sees as the disruptive egomaniacs hoodlums in the team. these days most people blame ribery for the WC disaster

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:21 (fifteen years ago)

cool

nakhchivan, Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:23 (fifteen years ago)

gonna be supporting Jaggan you guys

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:24 (fifteen years ago)

Have we talked about favorite stadiums yet? This one really is spectacular.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:25 (fifteen years ago)

Agreed, Ned. I'm hoping one of the innovations Sky brings home from this World Cup will involve installing swoopycam on top of Bloomfield Road.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:30 (fifteen years ago)

It's actually kinda nice to see a match between two teams who have both won their openers and feeling upbeat by all accounts. Add to that the great setting and weather and it's all perfect stuff.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:35 (fifteen years ago)

that looks like some fabulous treatment the Japan right back is undergoing.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:39 (fifteen years ago)

This stadium is beautiful. That arc >>> that broken thing on top of Wembley.

Everytime van Injury goes down I start to sweat, no matter how obvious that he hasn't been raked.

Re: Last night - If only England had someone with a bit of pace to come on and run at the defence, huh? Unlike SWP's/everyone else's 'hey let me pass this ball off the pitch, I hear that's how you score in African foootball'. At least Le Tissier had a reason for doing so. Oh and yeah fuck the pressure thing, this team was at least half full of players who have been in a Champions League final - how did they get there if they couldn't deal with pressure? And that is against the best teams, this is the worst fucking African team at the comp.

Still... LOL.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:42 (fifteen years ago)

I was just thinking that, about the stadium!

Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:55 (fifteen years ago)

Is it a proper arc that goes all the way over? It looks too slender & graceful to be so.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:55 (fifteen years ago)

many xposts to Ismael's reasons to be cheerful:

Tbh at this point I could careless if this lot somehow manage to limp through to the group stages. Like France, they are pretty much an embarrassment to the competition and would be better off coming home now. That was comfortably the worst game of the tournament so far and it goes beyond tactics or what players started where - they could not even string two passes together last night. Even if Capello has lost the dressing room, is playing the wrong tactics, and/or has selected the wrong players, you would expect that whatever 11 were put out, they would a) manage to pass the ball to each other, b) get a couple of shots on target, c) show a bit of enthusiasm. Personally, if they managed that then I wouldn't care whether they went out now or in the final, despite the "England Expects!" tabloid blah, (and I am sure many people feel the same way). But I just can't remember the last time I saw our national side at any sport put in such an abject and petulant performance and it really puts me off wanting to watch any more of their matches for the remainder of the tournament.

ears are wounds, Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:56 (fifteen years ago)

http://schlemihl.swissblog.ch/files/2010/03/Moses_Mabhida_Durban_Stadium1.jpg

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:59 (fifteen years ago)

I just keep thinking about how the US match yesterday was actually exciting almost start to finish, crazy plays and sudden drama and two teams getting into it. Compare that to the English match and night and day right there. If Nike were refilming the ad Donovan would get the fantasy sequence and Rooney would get the two second bit.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:02 (fifteen years ago)

Meanwhile, this match is going more quickly than I realized. Japanese defense is holding their own here.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:03 (fifteen years ago)

Seriously I've never shouted at a TV so loudly as when SWP came on. Ronan OTM, England were amazing in the qualifiers and no team in this group is as good as Croatia. England are either knackered, bottlers, don't give a shit or all three. It aint the manager, its the players and the sooner Gerrard and Lampard are gone the better.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:04 (fifteen years ago)

Haha what was with that slow motion collage just now.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:09 (fifteen years ago)

"Think deeply about my tan."

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:09 (fifteen years ago)

cliche warning = calling japanese players "industrious"

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:13 (fifteen years ago)

Nice moves by japan in the last few mins, but coming to nothing. There's a lot of teams like that here - lovely passing & movement and well-organised, but no one to play the killer ball at the end. Guys like Messi, Sneijder, Robinho and Özil can and have done it, I reckon that's the crucial step up to genuine contenders.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:14 (fifteen years ago)

aceness the next game is on beeb so i can watch on good internet stream whilst watching Dune on channel five

go O and O (Ste), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

stv's is a good stream!

Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:16 (fifteen years ago)

i could understand all that front page 'england expects' / 3 lions/ rooney wrapped in a flag 24-page analysis guff from a few weeks ago if they were prepared to be encouraging when they're shit but why do they turn on the players/ team so quickly?

I don't know about that- if you 'expect' something then there's a corollary of natural dismay when it doesn't happen. Encouragement is redundant/should be unnecessary if what you're being asked to encourage is the minimum level of achievement.

That said, whether anyone is entitled to 'expect' anything for England at a major tournament is debatable. That said, results (if not always performances) were exemplary in the qualifications under Capello.

Lovelace's post - excellent, but

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Some people are saying that the English team isn't better than this, but that's just not true. Player by player the English team is a million times better than a decimated Algeria. Just look at what each individual player has accomplished in their careers. Most of the England players are crucial in their club teams who evidently are among the best in the world. Wayne Rooney can recieve a ball. Frank Lampard knows how to pass the ball and Steven Gerrard can shoot. As long as they don't have to wear the England shirt

See Giles, J, quoted above for the answer to this. The most important player in the England midfield, we've been told since Capello came in (and the opinion was more prevalent than ever this past month) is Gareth Barry. He makes it happen, he makes them tick, he allows them to perform so that Rooney isn't left as the constantly-needed in the deck.

Gareth Barry is a fairly average/decent central midfielder for a club that finished 5th last year. He hasn't got any attributes that suggest international-class footballer, except that unlike players like Gerrard and Rooney (Probably the two biggest individual stars I assume you're referring to) he does what the fuck one of the best managers in the world tells him to on the pitch. That would be the norm in any other team even qualifying for the finals, let alone one with (admittedly probably only media-hyped) aspirations of the very laet stages.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:23 (fifteen years ago)

eh rooney as the constantly needed joker in the deck, that is

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:23 (fifteen years ago)

The CBC had so little to say about the first half they just ran some generic 'football in Ghana is beautiful and all' prefilmed bit before anything else during the break.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:24 (fifteen years ago)

@ D James re: selection left til 5 mins before a game-

Boo fucking hoo son.

When I read something like that, from supposedly one of the more mature members of this group, it makes me wish that Capello gets another ten years in charge to change the entire culture at International level, because this level of sulky entitlement feeding from one tournament to the next is absolute fucking poison to any group of sportsmen.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:25 (fifteen years ago)

surely you mean boooooooooooooo fucking hoo son

can't read the last few hundred posts anymore than i could watch last night's shower of shite again

mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:28 (fifteen years ago)

everyone in thoughtful, pensive mood blueski. it'd be better than reading any of the english press this morning, i'm guessing

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:28 (fifteen years ago)

the first time i saw keisuke honda he was playing as a deep-lying playmaker for cska and now he's playing as cf

'Lots of players eat sushi in our team,' said Dirk Kuyt yesterday, 'and we hope we will have them for dinner tomorrow.' Really, he said that. He really did.

nakhchivan, Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:29 (fifteen years ago)

I'm in a strange place with these guys- there's the obvious glee @ lolengland (tho it's not lolfrance) but at the same time I watch these individuals perform week in week out and as a football fan watching 90 mins of a world cup game, it's a total sickener when they put on a display like that. How can the stars of a sport I follow put on a show like that? I'd be embarrassed if I'd a yank staying over, we'd put on the Royal Rumble '94 or something instead.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:31 (fifteen years ago)

there's a good 2 hours reading on f365 this AM. ah, saturdays.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:32 (fifteen years ago)

i was watching last nights game at a mates house and half way through the drudge i just started thinking "i wonder what ilx guys are all making of this"

go O and O (Ste), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:32 (fifteen years ago)

D Baker on radio today saying anything can happen, we're dealing with chaos

Worst thing about the World Cup is that people briefly think 'pundits' like D Baker are worth paying any attention to.

Bob Six, Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:33 (fifteen years ago)

David Stubbs on WSC about the match -- bitter hilarity.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:34 (fifteen years ago)

Professional sportsmen at the top of their careers don't believe in chaos within the confines of their area of control

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:36 (fifteen years ago)

YOMP

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:38 (fifteen years ago)

You beauty

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:39 (fifteen years ago)

we'd put on the Royal Rumble '94 or something instead

it doesn't hold up tbh - i mean Big Boss Man's exit...

mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:39 (fifteen years ago)

OH GOALIE

(on replay)

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:39 (fifteen years ago)

still absolutely great strike-on-demand from snjijdjier

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:40 (fifteen years ago)

wtf itv stream is 3 mins behind!

go O and O (Ste), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:40 (fifteen years ago)

and stuttery as fuck

go O and O (Ste), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:40 (fifteen years ago)

Bah, completely missed the goal due to a laundry switch. Another goalie disaster?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:42 (fifteen years ago)

James' attitude, Rooney's attitude: absolute childish patheticness. What other country has a team of internationals that can't handle any kind of criticism or, apparently, management? Darragh otm, I thought Capello had come to sort this kind of bullshit out. In all seriousness when this tournament's over I would drop every single player who's shown any disloyalty or inability to work within the given structure. Better to have taken 23 guys who wanted to be there and work to achieve something than this shower of fucking pampered rock stars.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:42 (fifteen years ago)

YOMP

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yeah '94 is a rubbish one. lex luger? really?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:42 (fifteen years ago)

I'm interested to see Japan when they are chasing a game. They look tidy enough to create chances if they commit players forward but don't know how much of their defense is based on numbers rather than organisation/know how.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:42 (fifteen years ago)

Dare I say it but what England are missing more painfully than ever is VISION. We all know about England's lack of intelligent movement off the ball but until we somehow manage to produce a Fabregas/Pirlo/Iniesta/Xavi or for that matter another Paul Scholes we are never coming close to winning anything.

Say what you like at Beckham, he always turned up and produced something at major tournaments. He would have been so useful yesterday, there were no balls going behind the Algerian defence at all.

Amazing to think that England can still actually win their group, but I will be on a bus to Glastonbury and will miss the thing. Probably a mercy.

The only player I can see making any sort of impact on this team now is Joe Cole and his non-selection is more mystifying than ever. But the simple inability of England's supposedly world-class midfield to string a succession of passes together is ridiculous and I'm not sure even one of the best managers in the world can change that. Anyone remember that ridiculous long passing move that ended in Sheringham's volley against Argentina in 2002? When will see something like that again?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:43 (fifteen years ago)

xposts Ste, go to stv.tv!

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:44 (fifteen years ago)

Not a disaster, maybe it was, i funno. see it for yourself. great first time half volley , goalie got two fists on it but it's bounced off him into the opposite corner.

i think, at this stage, that this ball is too light- not base don movement in the air or that, but the way it bounces off the world's best players time and time again, it's quite clear that there's been a fairly big change in the physics.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:44 (fifteen years ago)

I only have RR94 on tape, is the reason why 1994.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

So many times last night there was Lampard or Barry on the ball in their half and 3 dudes strung across the pitch in front of them stood like motionless dummies. Either that's a lack of desire or a lack of brains.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

Do remember a move but don't now remember a game vs ARG in 2002.

the pinefox, Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:46 (fifteen years ago)

Better to have taken 23 guys who wanted to be there and work to achieve something than this shower of fucking pampered rock stars.

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Ou sont les Cattermoles autrefois, imo.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:46 (fifteen years ago)

Game vs Argentina in 2002, Pinefox-

England's best performance at a WC in my memory. D Mills outstanding at RB. 1-0 win with a beckham penalty, and determination, tactical awareness and discipline all present and correct.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:47 (fifteen years ago)

Do remember a move but don't now remember a game vs ARG in 2002.

Decent England performance for half an hour, badly taken penalty, hanging on for dear life for the rest of the game?

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:47 (fifteen years ago)

Still obviously better than any World Cup game with played since, yes.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:48 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, yes, we beat them. So Sven was manager. As said before, these post-2000 tournaments all blur and fade for me now.

Wouldn't really call Baker a pundit, not like the others. He's a radio broadcaster and though over many decades he grows ever less physically appealing, he remains, I think, intelligent, spirited, eloquent - the kind of thing that one can legitimately call 'talent' in broadcasting.

He was a good thing to listen to this morning.

the pinefox, Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:48 (fifteen years ago)

Another goalie disaster?

Didn't think so at first, but in slomo his timings way off so he has to take the blame for it.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:50 (fifteen years ago)

Have always been aware that Paul Morley does Big Brother punditry, which I've never seen.

Wish now that he could quit that and be World Cup pundit instead.

the pinefox, Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

yeah that was a goalie disaster

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

lol NV, difference between watching a team defending a 1-0 as a fan and as a neutral neatly described above I guess

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

yeha goalie was better off standing still and letting it fly into the original corner imo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

have to say i find it weird all these sudden "england need this sort of player" comments...they don't! they have a great team of players who can at least be expected to beat fucking algeria, realistically two or three nil. they rolled over similar teams throughout the qualifiers. they DREW with ALGERIA. DREW with ALGERIA. they didn't just get narrowly pipped at the final hurdle by Spain. they DREW WITH ALGERIA! so it's not for want of paul scholes, or someone in the carlton palmer role or fucking bernie slaven up front. it's because every player underperformed! that's the problem, not the level of player or type of player, the chasmic gap between performance and ability.

that's the mystery that needs to be answered, how can these players play so appallingly poorly for their country?

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:56 (fifteen years ago)

actually now i think about it the '94 isn't so bad - diesel eliminating like 10 guys, lol undertaker v. yokozuna coffin match in which even if you don't know the result, still spend the whole time going 'well he couldn't possibly fit in there'...

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:57 (fifteen years ago)

Argentina rarely threatened in the 02 game and were poorer than England generally (who were OK, not great/inspired).

Still don't really understand or like fans booing their own team for not playing well (as opposed to actually losing). If we're going to have that then we should have players speaking their mind in return.

mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 19 June 2010 12:58 (fifteen years ago)

Last night was a combination of underconfidence and over-tactical, I think. Pick the best 11 players, no instructions, 'Go out and do them' kind of thing. It's not like England have any tactical geniuses anyway tbh.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:00 (fifteen years ago)

Rooney had 90 mins to say something last night, he got a free flight and didn't pay in to the game. Fuckim.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:00 (fifteen years ago)

ps- england's best players doesn't include carragher, barry, heskey. them being picked for any reason = managerial fannydangle

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:01 (fifteen years ago)

As for pressure of expectation I'm pretty sure Brazil, Italy, France have high expectations on them going into tournaments and manage to cope from time to time.
I agree with the players being good at similar things mind you

But I don't think that's comparable. These are teams that consistently are successfull in the Euros/Copa de America/WC so if they fail in one tournament it's maybe not as big of a deal. They have more leeway for failure in a way. If they fail this time they have the belief that they can make it the next time because history shows that to be the case, unlike England.

Lovelace, Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:01 (fifteen years ago)

I can see what you're sayign there, but I'm not sure that winning it every four goes puts you under less pressure to do so on any one go. Surely England having one win 40 years ago should be having the opposite effect?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:06 (fifteen years ago)

I do have some sympathy for James over the late selection thing btw, if the players aren't comfortable with it it seems perverse to persevere. Sometimes I have to prepare things at work which I suspect aren't going ahead, and it definitely affects how well I can go about it.

However:
- there actually is a cost to me in doing preparation for nothing because it's time I could use for something else - not so for the players who are in SA for one thing only
- I presume the other side of the coin is that Capello has tried to create a culture where everyone knows their role and should be able to drop in & out as required, and complaining about it suggests that the players haven't grasped that this is how it's supposed to work
- it's Capello's call and responsibility, complaining in public is misunderstanding how a team operates

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:08 (fifteen years ago)

Surely England having one win 40 years ago should be having the opposite effect?

You're right, it should! And it would probably be that way in any other country other than England. This s an interesting big paradox.

Lovelace, Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:10 (fifteen years ago)

on your first point, Ismael-

When this generation, in particular, of England players know that they're getting picked (and some of them have known that they'll be picked for years, tbh) then it hasn't exactly proven useful in motivating them.

maybe they cunts just can't be motivated, really.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:10 (fifteen years ago)

Lovelace-I take your point. So maybe Spain pre 2008 would be the comparison although I understand that despite how good their current generation of players was going into that tournament the country/media isn't as obsessed about international football. Of course I'm not Spanish so I could be mistaken about that.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:11 (fifteen years ago)

even with tactical quibbles or whatever...that team should dismantle algeria easily. for me that performance is entirely about lack of confidence, england were too shit to be talking of them needing a scholes or a xavi or whatever, they need a fucking kevin kilbane based on that.

x-post again...everyone acting like qualifiers didn't happen, they played v well under capello for a while, why so shit now?

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:11 (fifteen years ago)

the paradox, as has been pointed out a few times in different ways, is likely explained in part by englands players winning big trophies with big teams at club level.

that's what capello's paid to emulate, i guess

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:12 (fifteen years ago)

xp to ronan- exactly, while they've struggled in qualification under mcclaren, the malaise of the big tournament is a constant for england even when the qualify comfortably (which eriksson (usually) and capello did)

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:13 (fifteen years ago)

yeah it's bizarre. they actually look really really similar to the last World Cup now, just that weird stasis and lack of creativity that they had under SGE last time, like that's their tournament mode.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:15 (fifteen years ago)

good effort japan

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:16 (fifteen years ago)

Well that's the alternative and maybe more plausible explanation xp. I do wonder, though, whether there's a fundamental incompatibility between manager and players here, and the only workable alternatives are: (a) Sven pandering to spoilt bastards and seeing how far natural ability takes us; or (b) Capello picking 23 Gareth Barrys and doing it totally his way.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

do we have a resident japan expert who can explain why morimoto isn't playing?

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:18 (fifteen years ago)

omg that was totally a lololty

voodoo sailor (ken c), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:18 (fifteen years ago)

the premier league 'all action, all attack, all the time' style is part of the problem against smaller teams, i think. makes it very easy to man mark the attack and wait for the next wave. playing as deep as algeria did gives lennon and rooney no room, and with gerrard and lampard out of sorts/position they don't have anything like the skill or creativity needed to unlock decent defences.

capello had the team playing it across the back with barry coming to collect, drawing opposition out, durign qualification iirc- he seems to have abandoned that now, or is it just that barry isn't fit enough to do this atm?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:19 (fifteen years ago)

Ismael- not only should Capello have always gone with option (b), I'm actually surprised that he hasn't from day one.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:20 (fifteen years ago)

why so shit now?

It certainly feels like something has gone wrong in training or the build-up, maybe the same kind of problems that Harry Redknapp hinted at with his "poor Scotty Parker wanted a cuddle" shit-stirring a few weeks back. Maybe something that means Capello doesn't want to play Joe Cole.

I understand that man management means treating different players differently, but again, these are mostly Champions League level players with a lot of internationals behind them. If they simply cannot stand the way they're being treated, by their manager or the media, then imo they need replacing. I wouldn't want a management style that aimed to fit itself around the players. As far as I can tell, that was the McLaren system and look what a great success that was. Maybe you have to make exceptions for extravagant, exceptional talent. Don't think that's an issue for England.

Man up or fuck off, in short.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:22 (fifteen years ago)

Players for whom Capello should be making exceptions-

Rooney (tho not to the extent of playing Heskey, FFS), A Cole. One of Gerrard or Lampard, not both.

Players he's been making them for-

Lampard & Gerrard, Carragher

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:25 (fifteen years ago)

looking at the table what happens if england get a 2-2 draw and USA gets a 0-0 draw in their next matches?

Michael B, Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:27 (fifteen years ago)

carragher hasn't done anything wrong tbf...the defence isn't the problem.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:27 (fifteen years ago)

Totally off-beam conspiracy theory #1: Capello knew that the superstars wd rebel against his system at some point, so he lets them have their shit tournament performance again and then makes wholesale changes for the European qualifiers: "these guys weren't good enough, now trust me to choose players that are".

xxxpost Yeah: "Lampard or Gerrard (probably the latter at the moment), never both" should be rule 1 of the How to Make a Good England Team manual.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:27 (fifteen years ago)

I think the defence is a problem to the extent that by playing Terry and Carragher you have 2 centre halfs who are too similar in terms of speed and paucity of ball-playing. Terry shd obviously have the nod over Carragher and then you need a different kind of player alongside.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:29 (fifteen years ago)

in capello's defence that was the plan though, with ferdinand and king no?

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:30 (fifteen years ago)

x-post yeah except AGAIN lampard and gerrard did fine in qualifiers.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:31 (fifteen years ago)

xpost

Yeah I'm sure it was totally the plan and I think King was a gamble worth taking. Now he's broeken again I wd far rather see Dawson given his chance. Only thing to say about choosing Carra last night was nobody expected Algeria to offer a terrifyingly speedy attack.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:33 (fifteen years ago)

Toss-of-a-coin to decide I think, Michael xp. It's happened before in football, but that I know of not for many years.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:34 (fifteen years ago)

Rte reporting that Anelka may be sent home for verbally abusing Domenech - disciplinary tribunal to be convened.

p-dog, Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:35 (fifteen years ago)

explain why morimoto isn't playing?

― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:18 (13 minutes ago)

didn't have that a good a season w/ catania (after pato had compared him to luiz ronaldo last year), and probably lacks the discipline / adherence to shape that 90% of japan's success is founded upon

that said he's quick and direct so he cld have been a useful sub

nakhchivan, Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:35 (fifteen years ago)

Carragher hasn't done anything wrong yet?

Should have been off against the USA, maybe twice after looking at the tackle he was only booked for.

Booked again last night for an inability to stop wrestling players.

Boy howdy, if he's only gearing up for a real fuckup then england will be lucky to get sent home after the next gaem tbh.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:39 (fifteen years ago)

Jürgen conspiculously not blaming the ref for yesterday's defeat, putting it mostly down to lack of experience and leadership instead.

Then a minute later Defoe's on camera saying: "At the end of the day we're a great side, hopefully next time we'll get a little bit of luck and win"

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:42 (fifteen years ago)

oh give it a rest darragh, so obv cos he's carragher. he wasn't sent off. and he got booked, so fucking what, players get booked.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:44 (fifteen years ago)

Gerrard should move centrally or up alongside Rooney, he's looked like one of England's most likely players and deserves to be better accommodated. I don't have club bias at international level, different areas of brain innit bolo

Carragher's a liability, is for club but gets away with it, is for country and has been lucky so far.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:47 (fifteen years ago)

(A gazillion xposts)
Re: the booing not really helping the side...
I don't really think it's supposed to help, it's just an expression of total disgust. England have been so fucking insipid that I think most people expect them not to qualify now. Even if they do qualify, unless there's a huge transformation they'll be getting knocked out shortly afterwards. I actually started the tournament with quite low expectations, basically expecting to get out of a piss-easy group and then get knocked out. Somehow England are failing even to reach those standards. I can't feel any sympathy for the players, because I think most of them are complete cunts anyway.

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:50 (fifteen years ago)

I think most people, myself included, are 100% certain England will beat Slovenia and qualify. Slovenia are a very limited team.

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:51 (fifteen years ago)

Not that England aren't, but you know what I mean

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:51 (fifteen years ago)

he's an aging centre half...does what he has to to get away with it, but hasn't actually made any mistake of significance in this tournament and is the least of england's worries based on last night.

just watching lineker and hansen's post mortem, lineker "i've never seen rooney play like that." erm really gary? i have, tons of times. he's just back to 9 goals a season rooney, hopefully this ends the nonsense about him being one of the best players in the world.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:52 (fifteen years ago)

A very limited team with 4 points against the same teams England got 2 from.

if, Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:52 (fifteen years ago)

weren't you predicting 29328 - 1 vs. algeria, lj?

iatee, Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

will England beat Slovenia?

I'm not sure now.

the pinefox, Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

I was being a bit flippant but I still thought England will win. I will continue to think this until proven wrong...FOREVER

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

xpost: As certain as you were that England would win 5-0 yesterday?

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

England will tonk Slovenia 5-0 btw ;-)

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

hahaha as you can see I typed that before seeing NB&S' post

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:54 (fifteen years ago)

None of Dawson, Upson or Carragher are all that good tbh. There are far bigger problems for Eng than this.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:56 (fifteen years ago)

England will beat Slovenia, probably with a poor performance but by more than one goal.

They'll play well in the next round against a decent team and progress, and will go out in the round after that to a good team.

If they meet germany in the next round, though, they'll be beaten badly.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:56 (fifteen years ago)

A Cole and Terry have been quite good so far, Carragher relying on ref calls to not get sent off != 'not a worry' imo.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

yes, I find this a plausible prediction.

the pinefox, Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)

Darragh's said what I think, basically because that's what England do - except that the defeats to Portugal in 04 and 06, and especially to Croatia in 08, are really niggling me because they were all to some extent capitulations when the chips were down and I fear that the old mentality may not be there any more.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

As I recall "okay they were terrible last game but have enough to win the next one, the opposition is rubbish anyway" was a fairly widespread mantra between last Saturday and about 7.45 last night.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

Pick the best 11 players, no instructions, 'Go out and do them' kind of thing.

Yeah - when USA went down 0-2 at the half, Bradley switched to 3-4-3 which USA has NEVER played before. Asked about it afterwards he was like "sometimes you just have to push up and take it to them, and plans go out the window" or something to that effect. Once they equalized they went back to 4-4-2. I'm not saying "the best tactics is no tactics" but it does seem that something of that "the hell with it" mentality is needed.

Capello has tried to create a culture where everyone knows their role and should be able to drop in & out as required, and complaining about it suggests that the players haven't grasped that this is how it's supposed to work

Which I'm going to say is Capello's fault. But look, even the premise of this is nuts. In every sport, everyone knows that the earlier your Main Dudes know they're playing the better. Not because of training or preparation, but to just get their heads in gear, to get their subconscious working through everything it needs to. Let me give you an example from another sport. In baseball, every team for the last 15 years or so has, or wants, a "closer" - a pitcher who comes in at the very end and just dominates the opposition batters. These pitchers usually don't have what it takes - in guile or endurance - to pitch a whole game, but they're great for 10 or 20 minutes. Now, very very occasionally a team has tried "closer by committee" - where you have two or three or even four relief pitchers, any of whom could be tapped on any day to play that role. It never works. Ever.

Is it common for a World Cup team NOT to have a number 1 keeper?

what happens if england get a 2-2 draw and USA gets a 0-0 draw in their next matches?

Takeshi's Castle

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

Thing is most of the team DOES know that they are playing and still plays rubbish. Seriously do you
think any of Terry, A Cole, Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, Johnson, Barry are unsure whether they were going to play or not last night?

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

O GOALKEEPING
O JUDGE
O MOM AND DAD

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

Reports of the Socceroos' demise exaggerated, apparently.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

lolkeeper

voodoo sailor (ken c), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

in other news, another goalie disaster by the ghana keeper

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

what was that, it was like he forgot to move his hands till the last moment.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

So this could be all teams tied on 3pts after 2 games. Nice!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

good point re they know they're playing anyway!

Hand, I like it, but think goalie situation and rest of the team are a bit separate.
Still agree with dropping Green.

the pinefox, Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

xp or was uncertain as to whether he should because of lolball hype?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

Is it common for a World Cup team NOT to have a number 1 keeper?

no but then Green's mistake is not that common in a WC either. changing the keeper may have created an uneasy feeling throughout the team ("one mistake and i'm dropped, fuck") that increased the pressure/nerves last night idk

mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

many teams are uncertain as to who should be #1 goalie, but luckily for most of those teams it's not usually because all of the options are a bit shite.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

am expecting KBP zings any second after being mysteriously awol all week

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

changing the keeper may have created an uneasy feeling throughout the team ("one mistake and i'm dropped, fuck") that increased the pressure/nerves last night idk

not a great attitude to have in a striker, or creative midfielder, but tbh if all a goalie or CB does is to be tall enough, stay fit and cultivate this mentality they'll be fine

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

i hope england go through and then lose to australia in the knockout??

voodoo sailor (ken c), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

but then Green's mistake is not that common in a WC either.

it is in WC2010

voodoo sailor (ken c), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)

lol harry

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

LOLstralia

voodoo sailor (ken c), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

oh KBP

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

maybe Capello will pick Hart for the next game and announce that he was just auditioning the three keepers - a game each - for the next round euro 2012.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

didn't know Kewell had some French in him

mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

wheres onimo with pk prediction?

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

4-1 ghana

voodoo sailor (ken c), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

never a red card. Penalty yes, but no way was that a deliberate handball.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

England won LE TOURNOI DE FRANCE in 1997 and no one noticed - understandably, it seemed.

Imagine the hype if Capello's England could win a similarly fabricated tournament.

the pinefox, Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

it's kinda harsh when they score anyway

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

there should be a rule whereby the player gets only a yellow if the keeper allows the player whose shot was blocked to score

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

Penalty yes, but no way was that a deliberate handball.

???????????????

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

having lost only their underperforming striker and based on Ghana's last game Australia could hang on here

mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

or the ROUS CUP!

the pinefox, Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

Aus really weren't in complete control Mark Bright. Without the handball it would have been 1-1.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

don't listen to mark bright

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

ever

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

Words to live by

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

AROUS SIR ROON

the pinefox, Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)

so anelka on his way home, rumours that other players will join him on the plane home. incredible

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)

:D

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

would now quite like france to go through, either that or hysterically blatant 0-0 anschluss between mexico and uruguay

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

haha following a good old french tradition of going out in style - 2002: defending champs going out with no goals, 2006: headbutt, 2010: team decides to piss off and go home halfway thru the tournament

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:00 (fifteen years ago)

actually that is probably the only thing now that could make me truly respect them, no offense

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

in fairness it's the equivalent of getting a flight before the rush

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

well if some poorly performing French players quit and some underrated reserves came in for the game, that could be a stirring finale.

the pinefox, Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

yeah tho - whoever gets on that plane is probably barred from life. anelka for sure, gallas prob - wondering if ribery would have the guts (cuz he still has some football years ahead of him)

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

That'd be a ban from the next tournament most likely, if they couldn't fulfil their last fixture. Would be a kind of awesome scorched earth policy if so. Probably only applies to little teams like Mexico or Cameroon anyway.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

have the french fa the moral authority at this stage to pull that kind of move, baaderonixx? this is pretty much their own fault for leaving an idiot in charge of fuckwits for so long.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:09 (fifteen years ago)

However much of a fuckwit he is I wouldn't allow players to pull unprofessional shit like this.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

See also incident involving much loved Premier League manager and much lolled Championship manager that one World Cup.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

Getting a flight home together means voluntarily spending time with teammates so I suspect Anelka would be on his own.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

Unless they just leave the camp to go sightseeing or jet off straight to their hols or something.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

he played for ireland after that, under the next manager.

domenech will be gone before ribery can penetrate a 15 year old back home

so that's a moot point rly

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

aw c'mon ghana FINISH THEM

anyone can have a big fight with a stupid manager but so many french players were a disgrace on the field which i can't understand so fuck em.

Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

Not that it matters now, but what's the rationale for sending off Kewell (or more pertinently, the South African goalie)? If it's supposed to be 'denying a clear goalscoring opportunity', don't they still have one by virtue of getting a penalty?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

^ kinda sick of this argument tbh.

professional fouls such as the denial of a clear goalscoring opportunity should be punished harshly, fuck a cynical centre half imo.

alternative to a penalty- direct free kick inside the box? with the wall standing behind the goal-line? be serious.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

yes but you still denied them an opportunity thru illegal means, which is unsportsmanlike conduct and a red card offense.

Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

xpost

Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

A penalty isn't a goal. Handball is by definition deliberate. Fine with red cards for this, two guys have been sent off for pointless handballs in the opposition's box already.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

Just glad that Australia didn't get their asses handed to them with 10 on the field.

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

not at all, they had chances to win in fact.

Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

To make matters worse for France, apparently Laurent Blanc is trying to add a clause to his contract stating that if a big club were to offer him a job, he'd be free to quit his coaching job for France. Good to know that your future manager is already getting ready to bail. French football is loads of fun this week. Am wondering what else could happen to make the situation even worse. Also, while Gourcuff was being interviewed by the press, he flinched pretty hard and kept his eyes down when Ribéry and Anelka stepped into the room. These are all crappy journo stories and i don't know if there is any truth to them, but lol at France. Ribéry and Anelka are the high school bullies, Gourcuff is the head of class and he's afraid they'll steal his lunch money. And Domenech is the teacher who doesn't have any authority over his class.

Jibe, Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

Sitting in Australia and I think that red card was fair.

Popture, Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

It was unfortunate, but I can't say it was wrong.

Be nice to keep eleven on the field next game. Just for a change of pace.

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

You know my point though xposts - the red card for foul-outside-the-box is good for righting the injustice, but inside the box just seems awfully harsh, especially when there's often no cynicism involved (which is why I mentioned the South African keeper)

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

PS the penalty is obviously the right award, it's only the red card I have the issue with

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

:) i came off a bit snappy there, sorry just lost to stoke in pro evo

NV calls it right imo- if the handball isn't deliberate, then there's no foul.

but if it is, then you've fouled the ball in the box (free kick, ie penalty) and if you've also denied a goalscoring chance on top then the red card's not a problem for me.

if the punishment is so unfairly weighted, let them not do it.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

xpost

A handball has to be deliberate by definition of the law. What could be more cynical than punching a goal off the line, taking a yellow card and watching the opposition miss the resulting penalty?

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

I forgot about handball being deliberate - I am on shakier ground there I realise. But what about the South African goalie? That's not in the same league of deliberateness, it's just a challenge that goes wrong.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

i've not seen either incident- was it a clear chance at goal if the goalie doesn't take him out?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

Deliberateness is often a tough call with 12 camera angles and slow motion, so I'm comfortable with sending players off for illegal challenges that prevent a goalscoring chance and not worrying too much about whether they meant it.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:19 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, i mean some dudes just have a guilty face so it's better they all go regardless of intent

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)

as it is i still feel that last-man defenders and players defending corners get away with murder, tbqh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:21 (fifteen years ago)

A direct free kick offence occurs when a player commits any of the following in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:

* Kicking or attempting to kick an opponent
* Tripping or attempting to trip an opponent
* Jumping at an opponent
* Charging an opponent
* Striking or attempting to strike an opponent
* Pushing an opponent
* Tackling an opponent

Notably this doesn't talk in terms of deliberateness but carelessness.

Yeah if anything too many keepers get away without being sent off because the red card is applied so inconsistently.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

'deliberate' is a red herring imo anyway- for instance, and not thinking of any martin taylor cunts in particular, if you're 16 stone of professional athlete then landing yourself on the shin of another professional with enough force to break it in two doesn't happen by 'accident'

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:27 (fifteen years ago)

XP

"Yeah obviously Noodle I see your point, but in this case Rooney's just got a nick on the ball. I don't know what they're teaching refs these days, honestly" /townsend or other tart of yr choice

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)

The South African goalie one was (as I saw it) the goalie and Suarez going for the ball, Suarez gets there slightly earlier and nicks the ball over the outstretched leg, then goes down over the same leg. He could most likely've stayed on his feet and slotted the ball home, but the red card changes the balance so that he's better off not scoring and taking the penalty and red card instead - that's basically my problem with the rule, that it encourages players to look for the foul even when the goal's there on a plate.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:37 (fifteen years ago)

The laws allow for the player to score the goal and still have the keeper sent off, I think. caek wd be better at this "You Are the Ref" stuff.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:42 (fifteen years ago)

Kinda hard to decide where the fine line is between a player having to get out of yr way to avoid you fouling him though? I'm not sure the onus is on the player with the ball to do that.

I wish a ref could give a free kick, then book the fouled player for diving anyway- it's not like one directly contradicts the other having happened.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:44 (fifteen years ago)

I'd agree that there might be a minor grey area in that over-acting after a legitimate foul isn't punishable like diving is, I don't think. Maybe you could count it as ungentlemanly conduct or something. But the onus is with the guy committing the foul and the idea here is that you can't cheat to prevent 90 percent certain goals with impunity.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:45 (fifteen years ago)

Ghana-Australia was quite a lot of fun, I thought. Australia weirdly seemed better with ten - when Kennedy lumbered on, he was really causing a whole heap of trouble, plus Moore and Neill had very good games at the back.

Ghana... dunno. They lacked coherence up front, too many massively pointless shots from distance. It does seem like a maturity thing more than anything else.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:46 (fifteen years ago)

okay, you've convinced me xps - I did think it was awfully harsh and I'd rather games stayed 11 v 11 if possible, but if the guy's stopping goals being scored then yeah, probably best not to have too much sympathy

I wish a ref could give a free kick, then book the fouled player for diving anyway- it's not like one directly contradicts the other having happened

^ hell yeah - has this ever happened? Instead they don't give fouls UNLESS the guy dives. It's so embarrassing at the Olympics especially, all these noble athletes busting a gut to do modern pentathlon or judo or whatever, then it cuts to the footy and they're all throwing shapes at the slightest contact.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:52 (fifteen years ago)

two majors improvements needed from reffing in general, then:

refs booking players that dive, while still allowing that there was a foul

refs calling a foul for tugging, pressing, pushing etc before a player has to throw himelf to the ground to get it

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:58 (fifteen years ago)

I wish a ref could give a free kick, then book the fouled player for diving anyway- it's not like one directly contradicts the other having happened

as in the nigeria - greece game, it's a solid red but the diving and falling over is a just as obvious yellow imo

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:11 (fifteen years ago)

mangled google french from here

Confirmation of the contempt that some "senior" team in France, Franck Ribery and Nicolas Anelka heads, eat at the place of Yoann Gourcuff and the effects that the pressure exerted on the Girondins . Always the mixed zone. Gourcuff is currently responding to reporters when tumble his two "friends". The team said: "When the middle Gourcuff sees Bayern Munich, the image is striking: he avoided meeting his gaze rebellious and a little more glue against the fence to let him pass as the first class gives way to the boss of the college for fear of taking a slap behind the head. "

stofu (cozen), Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:15 (fifteen years ago)

I wish a ref could give a free kick, then book the fouled player for diving anyway- it's not like one directly contradicts the other having happened

yes!! should have happened in the greece match as sond points out and suarez in the uruguay match imo

stofu (cozen), Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:16 (fifteen years ago)

trouble is you have to dive - you have to force the ref to make a decision if you want a free kick. otherwise he'll want to "let the game flow"

Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:16 (fifteen years ago)

the other side of this of course is the obligatory booking after a ref plays the advantage, b/c he wants to acknowledge he caught the foul.

Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

'avoided meeting his gaze rebellious' is a beautiful phrase.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:22 (fifteen years ago)

'letting the game flow', while an admirable enough intent, is to ignore the effect little trips/pulls/pushes have on even the most talented players.

the game would start to flow soon enough once three or four defenders had been sent of for persistent niggly fouls

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5JSmLL9B_4

James Mitchell, Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

Lol at great google translate. Not lol though for the French team, shit is on now more than ever.

Jibe, Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:28 (fifteen years ago)

Don't worry, the 8 homegrown players rule comes in next season. That's supposed to help the England team isn't it?

Chris, Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:30 (fifteen years ago)

re: england being international spurs-

the only thing ingerlund are coming fourth in is their group

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:31 (fifteen years ago)

I can see it taking the premier league down a notch or two in the short term, chris, but in the long run yeah it'll help the national team i think.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:32 (fifteen years ago)

Also, things just keep getting better. Press conference to officialise Anelka's departure and Evra starts saying that the problem is not Anelka, the problem is the traitor who went and told the press about what Anelka had said. Anelka who told another newspaper that he had a heated discussion with Domenech but that in no way were the words being reported what he had said. And then adds that really there must be someone on the team or in the staff that really hates him and wants to see France fail to report what should have stayed a private convo.

Jibe, Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:34 (fifteen years ago)

makes you wonder what his excuse was until now, then.

childish as fuck tbh, if gourcuff can't get on with these guys then i'm warming to him already

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:37 (fifteen years ago)

If somebody could photoshop a "Stop Snitchin'" t-shirt onto a pic of Evra that'd be lovely ta

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:38 (fifteen years ago)

oh fuck evra's lost it, big time. now he's holding rooney hostage

http://www.blogunited.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/patrice-evra/patrice_evra_7.jpg

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:42 (fifteen years ago)

CAPTURED STAR ROONEY FOUND UNHARMED AFTER SIX MONTHS IN TERRORIST EVRA'S CARAVAN HIDEY-HOLE

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/361721/Screen_shot_2010-05-20_at_3.00.05_PM.png

James Mitchell, Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:52 (fifteen years ago)

k guys I think we've got our snitch

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/09/article-0-0189C37B00000578-471_468x330.jpg

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:54 (fifteen years ago)

I love that Henry trashed his reputation for this.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:54 (fifteen years ago)

http://images.paraorkut.com/img/soccer/images/t/thierry_henry-977.jpg

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)

Don't cry for me, O Hibernia

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 June 2010 17:59 (fifteen years ago)

oh, france are helping us get over it in typically entertaining gallic fashion :)

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:12 (fifteen years ago)

eto'o is playing centre forward rite?

nakhchivan, Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

two majors improvements needed from reffing in general, then:

refs booking players that dive, while still allowing that there was a foul

refs calling a foul for tugging, pressing, pushing etc before a player has to throw himelf to the ground to get it

― Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, June 19, 2010 4:58 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

cosign this.
Plus when we get to the penalty shootouts I can guarantee that I'll be infuriated by at least a couple of pens being saved by goalies way off their lines. Don't know that I've seen a retake ordered for this in a shootout ever. Tho' Carragher had to retake his for taking it before the whistle (nice try Jamie) shame you missed the retake.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

eto'o is playing centre forward rite?

― nakhchivan, Saturday, June 19, 2010 6:29 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

can't be r wing again surely?

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

smrt enough to play Song this time, but surely Kameni is a better keeper than this guy?

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

lol @ the way they're talking about eto'o on tv right now

"you have to hope he's in the mood! he must be in the mood tonight!"

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

how can you be universally considered one of the best players in the world and still be such an insecure baby

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

oh man don't even ask

stofu (cozen), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

Eto'o " Can you dim the floodlights a little to get me in the mood? Play something smooth over the pa maybe?"

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

are the mood player and the confidence player just points on a sliding scale

stofu (cozen), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

Had no idea Jon Dahl Tomasson played for Feyenoord now. Hadn't heard from him since his Milan days.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

iirc they're ALL confidence players. Only some are mood players but never defenders.
xpost

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:40 (fifteen years ago)

He *is* in the mood!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)

sam!

i guess he was in the mood

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)

someone turn the shower on

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)

HE'S IN A GOOD MOMENT.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)

That was straight garbage from Paulsen

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

you can't even get away with doing that in a video game

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

Denmark's second own goal?

Popture, Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:43 (fifteen years ago)

Roger Milla isn't complimentary about Eto'o?! 1990 was fun and everything, but...

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:43 (fifteen years ago)

Cameroon makin' bacon out of Denmark at the moment

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

how can you be universally considered one of the best players in the world and still be such an insecure baby

― Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:34 (4 minutes ago)

that's just crappy american commentators infantilizing him, even when woefully misused in the last game he didn't give up

he's got issues (attacking journos etc) but lack of commitment is one of them

nakhchivan, Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

*isn't*

nakhchivan, Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

Between Gronkjaer and Rommedahl what % of crosses will clear the first man? 20? 15?

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:49 (fifteen years ago)

missed the goal. which poulsen messed up?

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

xtian

nakhchivan, Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

shots of dour, unhappy scandinavian fans/coaches will never not be funny.

wears suburban hang-ups on her sleeve like some kind of corporate logo (daria-g), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

that's just crappy american commentators infantilizing him, even when woefully misused in the last game he didn't give up

the commentators aren't american fwiw

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

great news xxp

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

My father-in-law says Anelka's been tossed off the team, that's why he's headed home. Sarko addressed it for TV cameras, said his behavior was unacceptable (no mention of his play AFAIK)

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

the commentators aren't american fwiw

― Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:57 (56 seconds ago)

then they're prob shit english ex players i guess...

nakhchivan, Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

is it my imagination or has the crowd vocal noise to vuvuzela ratio been higher the last couple of days?

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

no, i think you're right.

Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

lol Bendtner has turned up

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

what a ball from kjaer

spaghetti, Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

ahoyhoy to thread
xpost

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

do you guys have the option to follow only a single player as well? not sure how much joy it has brought me so far but there is a charm to being able to watch eto'o pick his nose while denmark scores

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

that was the most chill post-goal celebration of the cup so far

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

he's cooler sans scarf

Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i support eto'o

nakhchivan, Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

consistently great for like 7, 8 years now?

nakhchivan, Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

made a right Aarhus of that

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

dang

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

holy mother

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

Don't want half time now

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

wonder if eto'o is out of the mood now

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

that was a great 2 mins

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

Song passing to Bendtner better than he does at Highbury.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

That was a fun three minutes. Wow

Popture, Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

hahaha what the hell

Grisly Addams (WmC), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

oh stop whining commentators. Defending out of the Billy Stark manual, did he just say? Whatever did Billy do wrong?

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:16 (fifteen years ago)

good lord what is going on

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

That was a most excellent half.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

consistently great for like 7, 8 years now?

― nakhchivan, Saturday, June 19, 2010 7:10 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

at least since last season at Mallorca onwards I reckon.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

that cross from kjaer was amazing, wonder where this guy will end up this summer

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

Arsenal

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

"But I looked at those players in white, and I thought 'That could be Gerrard'..."

Yeah, this is rather fun.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)

Adrian don't encourage Gerrard to hit 60m passes you fool!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

I was listening to the ESPN Radio coverage of that half and cursing being unable to see it. That ending sounded insane!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

lollo eklollo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

kick it!

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

This game is ridiculous & fun :D

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

bassong dicey there

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

kjaer been training with this ball since jan too i reckon

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

lovely goal!

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

"a little hint of danish dynamite" iirc

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

a nobel effort

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

great pass from bendtner

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

for a fast move that looked extremely slow by rommedahl though

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

commentator had me wiki'ing geremi cos I couldn't believe he was only 31. He is! So Newcastle was him in his prime!!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

he's only '31'

;)

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

the 'wink' is actually part of his official age, like. it's an african footballer thing iirc.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

heh

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

this is a cracking game, great save there from cameroonian goalie

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

Great save! Great move!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

there must be another goal in this

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

sorensen down so quick to that

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

lol poulsen redeemed himself there

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

was that headed for top corner?

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

ouch

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

Denmark just will not lego of this lead

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

Cameroon's shot count must be insane.

Popture, Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

their shot accuracy is driving their coach in that direction i'd say

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

If Cameroon had shown half of this vs Japan they wouldn't be heading out

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

sorensen just booked for timewasting- while a substitution was taking place?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

denmark decent on the break, but their defence looks porous

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

this is a smorgasbord of excitement

stofu (cozen), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

it's certainly no bohr

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

So Holland first team defo thru'?

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

~something about bacon~

stofu (cozen), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

geremie getting around the pitch well for a 31 :) yr old

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

Holland def through, yeah.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

Well that was a bit of fun, eh?

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

what video are they watching in that BT stag night ad?

stofu (cozen), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

xp
enjoyed england algeria more tbh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

xp

2Gerrards1WorldCup iirc

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

that shot went off that dudes head at like 90 mph -_-

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

5live saying Assou-Ekotto and Alex Song straight down tunnel without shaking hands with anyone. Arsenal and Tottenham united together. It warms my heart.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

Well that was an enjoyable match. :) Bendtner >>> Rooney, obv.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

And Cameron def out inducing the now familiar feeling you get every four years of a team that has played good some good stuff but are OUT while Eng are still in.

Comforting to experience it...xps

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

I like to think it's nutsindaass

stofu (cozen), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

assou-ekotto a spurs player?

pffft it's a long summer yet to be tying that cunt to a club for the rest of it

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

Why oh why did Cameroon not turn up against Japan?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

Off topic- Jordan has gucci dropped yet?

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

not that i can tell

geremi crossed the ball today (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, I thought it was Japan needed the win in the last match, not Denmark - I stand corrected. Could be a cracking game.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

o Chilesy, breaking out the 'Africans play with a smile on their face' thing.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

hahaha @ gucci check

great game. feel sorry for cameroon but like someone said upthread, they didn't turn it on like that v. japan so u know too bad

Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

o Chilesy, breaking out the 'Africans play with a smile on their face' thing.

idk but on the stereotypes front only the African teams seem to do dance routines after scoring, so far

mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

yeah but Crouch hasn't scored yet

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)

alvaro pereira tried but nobody wanted to join in xp

nakhchivan, Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)

Gerrard tried but Carragher refused to sing Sussudio

mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)

have there been any double/triple somersaults?

mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)

slovenia are exhibit a only african teams should do dance routines xxp

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)

racist

mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

stereotype defying, non african dance routine: http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_sow_experts__7/ept_sports_sow_experts-193856107-1276443739.jpg?ymcBpSDDNbP8E1hd

spaghetti, Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

20th anniversary of 'Vogue'

mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)

http://wvgazette.com/Sports/201006130492

The world already hates us (America); let's tank in World Cup play

...

I love the World Cup. And I love America - it's my hometown! But I would not love to see America win the World Cup.

Frankly, we don't need another feather in our already overstuffed cap. And considering soccer is the world's game - and most of the world is at odds with America at any given moment - I think it might be a nice idea for Uncle Sam, in an effort to promote world harmony, to lay down in South Africa...

Cunga, Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

I don't care if it's in half-jest, he can get out of here with that BS. I'm sick of it. I hear that every four years, and every time it sounds just as arrogant and cowardly.

idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Saturday, 19 June 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

And there's also a self-aggrandizing element to it. "I'm so sick of being #1 and so damn great and wonderful, other people deserve their own little moment in the sun imo..."

Cunga, Saturday, 19 June 2010 21:12 (fifteen years ago)

what are the US #1 in that anybody else does? sailing? dude needs to realize that the US are the plucky underdogs in soccer.

Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, 19 June 2010 21:26 (fifteen years ago)

Decent athletics team iirc

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 June 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)

track is ruled by usain bolt & africans afaic. pretty good at swimming tho.

Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, 19 June 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

Win world series of baseball every year...

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 19 June 2010 21:50 (fifteen years ago)

I've been trying to work out what the second round onwards could look like. It isn't quite taking shape yet, but it looks to me like there's a fairly high possibility of the big names all being corralled together in the middle two quarters of the draw. As things stand, it's looking like two of the matches in the quarters might see:

Netherlands/Italy v Brazil/Spain
Argentina/Mexico v Germany/England

If that's how it plays out, it's excellent news for the other South American sides - Uruguay would seem to be the pick of the first quarter, and Paraguay or Chile the pick of the fourth. We could be on for that all-South-American last four after all.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 June 2010 22:51 (fifteen years ago)

Attn noted thread-reader RONAN I have a question about the BBC! How do I get in touch with someone at BBC schools?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 20 June 2010 01:51 (fifteen years ago)

(or the bbc schools website, rather - I imagine it's done externally? But I don't know by who?)

Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 20 June 2010 01:52 (fifteen years ago)

track is ruled by usain bolt & africans afaic. pretty good at swimming tho.

― Gohamist (zvookster), Saturday, June 19, 2010 9:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2008/medals/by_sport/track.html

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 20 June 2010 02:15 (fifteen years ago)

ppl only care abt 100 m & >800 m iirc

Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 02:18 (fifteen years ago)

but let's not get hung up. plucky underdogs in soccer is the point.

http://bit.ly/9IBb3o

Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 02:25 (fifteen years ago)

the US is number 1 in track, brah, it's silly to argue otherwise.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 20 June 2010 02:27 (fifteen years ago)

It's not like they're racking up medals in wacky shit like the steeplechase, it's 200m and 400m. Lol at the idea people don't care about those.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 20 June 2010 02:28 (fifteen years ago)

ok the US r real good at track matt

Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 02:37 (fifteen years ago)

If the US ran track while playing soccer...now that'd be something

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 20 June 2010 02:42 (fifteen years ago)

there was the track around the pitch vs. england, should have had a sprinting contest after

maybe tl;dr but i thought this was interesting

http://www.morethanmindgames.com/2010/06/19/england-v-algeria-not-fear-but-f-off/

156, Sunday, 20 June 2010 02:50 (fifteen years ago)

All of the above is speculative to a large degree, and were England to go in at half-time 2-0 up over Slovakia, my guess is that a great deal will be forgiven and forgotten. What I mean is: we’ll know by then.

I'll be fucking impressed if they're 2-0 up over Slovakia at half time on Wednesday.

Yahia Trick Yahia (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 June 2010 03:08 (fifteen years ago)

If the US ran track while playing soccer...now that'd be something

this is actually kind of part of the problem imo

dan m, Sunday, 20 June 2010 06:11 (fifteen years ago)

You can take Americans out of track, but you can't take track out of Americans...

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 20 June 2010 06:53 (fifteen years ago)

They're a company of cunts but this made me laugh:

http://imgur.com/Vldag.jpg

http://innocentdrinks.typepad.com/innocent_drinks/2010/06/englands-world-cup-starting-11-revealed.html

James Mitchell, Sunday, 20 June 2010 07:12 (fifteen years ago)

Thanks for the link, 156, interesting article

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 20 June 2010 07:28 (fifteen years ago)

Lolz @ the fan who stumbled on Eng's dressing room. Real sense of entitlement to a 'performance' after spending lots of cash to get to South Africa.

Cash which most fans from all the countries present will have spent with no hope of getting anywhere beyond the first round or two.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 June 2010 09:11 (fifteen years ago)

Lolz @ the fan who stumbled on Eng's dressing room.

Cash which most fans from all the countries present will have spent with no hope of getting anywhere beyond the first round or two.

True, although the number of journos and FIFA spokesmen saying yesterday "We take very seriously any attempt by the fans to get this close to the team, it must never happen, this is a v serious incident" did rather make me somewhat on his side.

GamalielRatsey, Sunday, 20 June 2010 09:23 (fifteen years ago)

Couldn't see if this was posted but has cheered me up after a bummer of a performance on Friday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3_NABDDen0

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Sunday, 20 June 2010 09:29 (fifteen years ago)

Well I just saw the video of the fan and you know, asking David Beckham what he was going to do about it is er...

I can see its a bit of grief, and we all felt frustrated in one way or another watching that, but when you follow a team you can get all sorts.

Now Eng cricket fans who went to Australia (esp in mid-90s) when they knew they'd get humiliated on the pitch but went anyway.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 June 2010 09:47 (fifteen years ago)

Terry to hold a news conference today.

Bassong for Europe (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 June 2010 10:19 (fifteen years ago)

Now in fact.

Bassong for Europe (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 June 2010 10:21 (fifteen years ago)

So whatever is or isn't going down, Terry and Rooney have both apologised now.

Bassong for Europe (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 June 2010 10:24 (fifteen years ago)

Terry "we'll have a meeting tonight and air our views and if the manager or a player gets his feelings hurt, so what"

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 10:55 (fifteen years ago)

Innocent Smoothies are on the Bullard train too? How could we possibly continue to hate them? (Not that I ever hated them, a fine way to wrap up my Boots meal deal.)

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:06 (fifteen years ago)

apparently kaita's had death threats following his red card

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:07 (fifteen years ago)

Star Wars ref plus repping for Phil "Online Bandits & Loan Sharks" Tufnell = I hate them more than ever

Bassong for Europe (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:08 (fifteen years ago)

I suspect death threats are normal banter in african footy xp. I had a South African stream during the African Nations Cup - in the phone-in afterwards callers were threatening to burn players' houses down and no-one was batting an eyelid.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:10 (fifteen years ago)

Nothing assures me that everything's fine more than an emergency press conference to say so.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:12 (fifteen years ago)

Love the BBC presenting victories for Serbia and Switzerland as part of a crisis for European teams in their intro here.

if, Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:12 (fifteen years ago)

mccarthy hodgson dixon triple whammy!

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:13 (fifteen years ago)

I had a South African stream during the African Nations Cup - in the phone-in afterwards callers were threatening to burn players' houses down and no-one was batting an eyelid.

Kind of o_O but mostly lol

Bassong for Europe (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:13 (fifteen years ago)

kaita's were sent directly to his e-mail but yeah I take what you say

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:15 (fifteen years ago)

McCarthy, Hodgson and Dixon, QUALITY PANEL (xpost). Although I haven't seen any of Colin Murray this tournament I don't think, is he being a cunt?

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:15 (fifteen years ago)

Murray's been pretty good I think - he's probably as good as we're going to get while Chiles is hamstrung by being on ITV. But then I think James Corden's been doing a decent job too, you may want to take that into account.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:17 (fifteen years ago)

good God. I will admit that I haven't seen any Corden, since his presence brings on a reflex channel change.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

xpost
I'll take your word on that, as you'd have to pay me to watch him.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

corden is a total fucking bastard

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

Why is Cardozo on the bench while lolque santa unfit starts?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:29 (fifteen years ago)

hey i am scared of opening up this thread in full, can someone re-post the HATERS GONNA HA-BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR gif?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:35 (fifteen years ago)

Quality

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:57 (fifteen years ago)

v.nice

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:58 (fifteen years ago)

No-one else watching this? Nice pass, smart run and then a classy finish by Vera = Paraguay 1-0. This is good viewing so far.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:58 (fifteen years ago)

lol xpost.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:58 (fifteen years ago)

If the goalie had saved that would that have been a pen for a late tackle? Kind of challenge that is almost always a free kick (ie late tackle) but never given in box if you get your shot off.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 11:59 (fifteen years ago)

Definitely gif of the tournament:

http://www.ihasaids.com/upload/data/1276610097.gif

James Mitchell, Sunday, 20 June 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

tytytyty

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 12:16 (fifteen years ago)

Too soon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea0JcmjkmI8

Or too late?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 20 June 2010 12:16 (fifteen years ago)

hodgson dropping knowledge

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 12:19 (fifteen years ago)

Hey, nice goal - he had almost no time to get his shot off there

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 12:20 (fifteen years ago)

xpost ya, I wonder how many books on tactics Shearer's read.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 20 June 2010 12:20 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, <3 Roy Hodgson.

ailsa, Sunday, 20 June 2010 12:21 (fifteen years ago)

uh oh, commentators have become Daleks.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 20 June 2010 12:32 (fifteen years ago)

Dixon, Hodgson, Mccarthy - should be the panel for every match. Even Colin Murray not coming across like too much of a disgusting savage in their company.

ears are wounds, Sunday, 20 June 2010 12:35 (fifteen years ago)

cosign this love

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 12:35 (fifteen years ago)

No Skrtel. The more games Santa Cruz plays for City next season the better for us. Direct your fouls elsewhere.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 12:54 (fifteen years ago)

Calmly done there

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 13:12 (fifteen years ago)

beauty!

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 13:12 (fifteen years ago)

That was a very nice goal indeed.

ailsa, Sunday, 20 June 2010 13:13 (fifteen years ago)

that's the end of that, nicely taken.

Is it just me who's had fuzzy commentary this whole half? It's kinda annoying.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 20 June 2010 13:13 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe they don't have the players, but at no stage have Slovakia really gone for this. Unless they're supremely confident of beating Italy, which seems unlikely.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 13:15 (fifteen years ago)

btw lovin' the idea of the W Cup evolving into the Copa America before my eyes.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdeuTavQg2c

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 13:26 (fifteen years ago)

Great, isn't it? That's six wins and two draws from eight games, and looked good in all of them

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 13:27 (fifteen years ago)

I lost any kind of respect I once had for Mick McCarthy when he wet himself cos Serbia were zonal marking.

Chris, Sunday, 20 June 2010 13:44 (fifteen years ago)

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moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 13:51 (fifteen years ago)

<3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAZLwmvTnGs

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 13:58 (fifteen years ago)

Paraguay looking good to top this group now, I'd think? I can imagine them hammering New Zealand more than I can imagine Italy doing the same.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:01 (fifteen years ago)

getting ready to eat my words when Italy score in the second minute here, tho.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

well how's abouts thats.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

appalling decision

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

cannavaro u old

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

came in 8 minutes late but loooooooooool

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

What was the bad decision? I'm watching with the sound down.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

I missed the first seven minutes of this, WTF happened? New Zealand, really? More then one of their squad had to ask for time off work to come to the world cup

Popture, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)

Offside by at least a yard

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)

wait so does the touch off cannavaro rule out an offside?

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

They just replayed it - looked like it came off an Italian head

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

Thought it came off nz head which makes cannovaro touch irrelevant

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

I don't think Killen got a touch therefore not offside.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

but if we have differing views after a replay then can't really blame the linesman I guess
xpost

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

Also CHRIS FUCKIN KILLEN beating ITALY O_o

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

it came off NZ head then hit an italian then NZ player scored while 2 yards offside.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

lol so in our straw poll we have 1 for Italian head, 1 for NZ head and 1 for no head

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

Benefit of doubt to the attacking side seems fair, when it's New Zealand

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTII8J-3FYM

looks like a nz head to me

Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

Certainly you can't say anyone delibrately passed him the ball. But he is a couple of yards from where he should have been.

Popture, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)

honestly can't see the NZ player (it is Killen isn't it?) getting a touch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v6wbddIyrA

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)

actually watching that replay might as well be no head so i'm gonna give it a rest

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:19 (fifteen years ago)

Benefit of doubt to the attacking side seems fair, when it's New Zealand

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:17 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark

lol, this should so be a rule

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:19 (fifteen years ago)

very last angle in that vid it looks like Killen just misses the ball

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:19 (fifteen years ago)

"boisterous strikers" Chris Coleman.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

Odds makers must be tearing their hair out after the last week or so

Popture, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

why? they must be making a killing from ppl betting with their heads instead of their hearts.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

http://i47.tinypic.com/24415lj.jpg

Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

Italy resorting to cheating to win already. Good work.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

what a horrible country, seriously

iatee, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

ahahaha

Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

looks more like NZ players elbowing everything

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

came off an italian head, picture evidence coming up next...

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

http://theitalianist.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/silvio-berlusconi-attack-pic-ap-image-1-325439636.jpg

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

Wow!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

lol that shot was going a mile wide then it warped

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

Oh lol. Their keeper didn't even move for that one

Popture, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

ref's a spoilsport. :(

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

penalty?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

this game is both hilarious and enjoyable also f the italians

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

oh he was pulling a jersey

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

grudge match. foul + dive

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

onimo?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

Kind of penalty USA should have had 4 of.

Vote goal

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

i say miss

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

onimo call it

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

fuck italy so much

iatee, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

he did

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

obv the US strikers should have flung themselves on the turf instead of foolishing putting the ball in the net

Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

onimo calls it

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

iaquinta spoils the part by not learning from baggio how to take penalties.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

lol xxpost
3/3

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

Their keeper is hilarious.

Popture, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

why all the italian hate btw? Onimo & I dont hate them and they've cheated Scotland a few times in recent years. I just want to see a good game with loads of (fair) goals.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

darraghmac otm

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

Didn't these sides have a 3-2 or a 4-3 recently?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

Scotland and Austrailia and South Korea and I'm sure a bunch more teams. Plus fascism and the legacy of Zizou's mother.

etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

how could any non-italian not absolutely loathe italy? I don't even get how that's possible

iatee, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

the italian hate stems from them being perceived as dirty cheats I think; I love them but I like that style of slow technical defensive football

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:34 (fifteen years ago)

apparently the french squad refused to train today? o_O

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

I will always love Italy for beating Schumacher and West Germany in 1982 final + Del Piero

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

the dirty cheat thing is kinda dated imo. i like italy, although i'm not to excited about this current team

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

what was cozen OTMing darrahmac for? I cant be arsed scrolling through all 2000 msgs to check

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

last thing i read was zidane was the mastermind behind the whole uprising, pissing off domenech even more xxxp

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

tbf the slow technical football thing is kinda dated too I think :)

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

I was otming darragh for his players should still be booked for diving even if they're awarded the foul

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

France team director Jean-Louis Valentin says the national team is refusing to train following a dispute on the practice field.

Valentin also says he has resigned from the French football federation, shouting that he was "ashamed'' of the team.

The team arrived at training Sunday but a few minutes after taking the field, fitness coach Robert Duverne stormed away from an argument with coach Raymond Domenech. Duverne threw his accreditation badge to the ground after the heated discussion and walked away.

The players then boarded the team bus.

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)

Brilliant stuff. I've a good mind not to watch the second half, it can only be heartbreak after that.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)

Seeing Italy this desperate & on the run early is kind of great.

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

tv confirming it was offside btw

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

apparently the guy who resigned was the "traitor" who leaked the Anelka row according to 5live

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

Seeing Italy this desperate & on the run early is kind of great.

otm

get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

New Zealand's goal keeper is just the guy they picked last when making the team. He looks so nervous all time and kind of slaps at the ball.

Popture, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)

Italy's all pissed at NZ for making them play hard. Even if NZ lose
<3 <3

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

Xpost his hand was shaking earlier

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:09 (fifteen years ago)

Chris Coleman armchair coaching the Enn Zedds is sort of adorable.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:12 (fifteen years ago)

I can think of plenty of things worse in football than trying to get someone sent off to be honest Chris.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

Criscito's theatrics are one of the reasons so many neutrals hate Italy.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

Lovely strike!

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

"You don't wanna win the game by cheating." New Zealand's goal was offside, Chris.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

i hate italy because i hate all the big euro soccer (former/current) powerhouses

max, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

I hate Italy because I hate them.

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)

great save

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

Beauty!!

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

I hate all the wee shit teams

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

Pretty much every major footballing nation has players who dive cheat pull shirts roll around and do the card wavey thing, it is not peculiarly Italian.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

yeah but it just comes so natural for them

iatee, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

j/k and it's pretty hard to muster much love for this partic italy squad in this form

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

who invented diving? when did it come into the game?

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

onimo otm

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

Pretty much every major footballing nation has players who dive cheat pull shirts roll around and do the card wavey thing, it is not peculiarly Italian.

nz player rolling around as if he was shot right now

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

NZer rolling around holding his face for nothing.

xpost England iirc

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

onimo is right, sadly. Everyone does it now. Nowhere is immune.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

I blame the refs really

iatee, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

Is there a nat'l team known for not taking dives in this WC?

CompuPost, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

north korea? if any

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

No Irish players have dived in this WC.

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

A team which didn't dive, roll around etc would be awarded nothing and eliminated very early on. Kiribati don't dive iirc

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTjEQrge98g

James Mitchell, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah North Korea. They also gave away like two penalties in 90 minutes and seemed sorry about them.

Popture, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

Going to be crushed is Italy score

Popture, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

Yellow card for what?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

"I cannot believe he's given him a yellow card for timewasting". Why not? He was timewasting.

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

ha yesterday sørensen was carded when thomasson was too slow off the pitch for the sub and now this

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

If youre new Zealand that yellow card is worth it.

Popture, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

badabababa i'm lovin it

Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

Wow!

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

At no stage did I believe that was going to be a draw

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar7DgREshAk

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

Well done fellas.

Popture, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

that was fucking AWESOME.

get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

so awesome

iatee, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

The weird thing is, I thought Italy looked pretty good there.

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

Ahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sheep fuxors ftw!!!!!!!!!!

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

yaaaaaaa. Results like this make me not mind that I've gone 2/11 in this round of predictions.

(is there an ILX league on Castrol's FIFA World Cup Predictor?)

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

What an effort. Wow.

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

That FIFA fantasy site is so bad I can't even find my own team on it

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

shame about that bullshit penalty

iatee, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

Don't think many would have predicted England, France and Italy would still be looking for a first win at this stage.

Well done New Zealand!

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

That was so tense towards the end, agreeing with those saying that at no point did they really think it would end a draw.

All NZ need now is 1-1 against a cruising Paraguay, Italy held to 0-0 by Slovakia and they'll be in the next round.

if, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_D-tfCZIC4Rk/Rcdi19pVfXI/AAAAAAAAAAw/P9B08lpEPS0/s200/gordons-cover.jpg

Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

good game, kudos to nz

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

New Zealand into the next round is the craziest thing to even be contemplating

so so so rad & that game was just such a pleasure

get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

If New Zealand somehow beat Paraguay, they're through. If that happens and Italy don't beat Slovakia, they're through by topping the group.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

if the final two games are equal draws that means we're down to drawing lots, right?

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 20 June 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

On the other hand if NZ lose to Paraguay, Italy don't even need to win to get through. Which sucks.

if, Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

totally possible that both italy and spain don't go through

iatee, Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTjEQrge98g

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

Espn Bob Ley "the flightless bird the Kiwi has taken flight in South Africa."

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

If anyone can speak French, could they translate the commentary?

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

Average points per match by confederation (inter-confed matches only, ie intra-confed removed):

CONMEBOL 2.50
UEFA 1.35
CONCACAF 1.20
AFC+OFC 1.00
CAF 0.64

anatol_merklich, Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

gg NZ! italy and paraguay will still go through

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

OMG http://www.timeslive.co.za/sport/soccer/article424420.ece/Amateur-Barron-banks-hopes-on-Cup-selection

While New Zealand’s central bank was leaving the official cash rate unchanged at a record low on Thursday, Westpac senior operations administrator Andy Barron was stretching at a sun drenched North Harbour Stadium.

His employers had been “fantastic” giving him time off work for international duty. Last year he had 10 weeks off as the All Whites played in the Confederations Cup.

amazing!!!!

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)

Paraguay will hammer New Zealand I feel - the Latin American sides ex Honduras are showing guile like nobody else here bar the Dutch and Germans. Hope I'm wrong obv.

Btw, further to my post last night, this is another result funnel the big name sides together in the next round. Had expected Italy to labour v Slovakia and not NZ, but no matter.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:30 (fifteen years ago)

On 5live now Graham Taylor's in depth analysis of why things went wrong for England against Algeria - "We've played crap."

To be fair he's not wrong.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)

As things stand, it's looking like two of the matches in the quarters might see:

Netherlands/Italy v Brazil/Spain
Argentina/Mexico v Germany/England

If that's how it plays out, it's excellent news for the other South American sides - Uruguay would seem to be the pick of the first quarter, and Paraguay or Chile the pick of the fourth. We could be on for that all-South-American last four after all.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)

from what i could understand the video just explains this is evra arguing with one of the coaches and the coach walks away and says 'this time it's over'. it's hard to make out the words though.

ESPN just had on a french journalist from l'equipe, and asked him what's happened with the french team.. journalist explains dispute between patrice evra and a coach and says evra 'told him go to fuck yourself' and 'you son of a bitch' (uncensored on live television.. a few seconds later ESPN host is like o_O oops we apologize)

wears suburban hang-ups on her sleeve like some kind of corporate logo (daria-g), Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:34 (fifteen years ago)

On 5live now Graham Taylor's in depth analysis of why things went wrong for England against Algeria - "We've played crap."

I lol'd

get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)

just to complete that explanation, i think what happened is that evra is the dude who called the coach/director of football a traitor for leaking Anelka cursing Domenech out

Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:40 (fifteen years ago)

complete/muddy

Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)

I actually found NK's not-diving really noticable! Man I really hope we are not just stuck with more and more diving forever :(

Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:44 (fifteen years ago)

Blatter out, Kim Jong Il in.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:50 (fifteen years ago)

Good god France is the gift that keeps on giving. Every day there's a new story. Can't wait for tomorrow's story. ;_;

Jibe, Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:50 (fifteen years ago)

Jibe, given the remaining members of the squad what formation/personnel would you like to see for final game?

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:55 (fifteen years ago)

Is it worth giving Cisse a chance up front?

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 16:56 (fifteen years ago)

Lloris
Abidal Planus Squillaci Sagna
Diaby A. Diarra Gourcuff
Malouda Cissé Valbuena

Maybe Henry upfront, for his farewell game. But I'd love to see Cissé upfront for once (even though yeah it's lol Cissé, but at least he gives everything he has on the field)

Jibe, Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:02 (fifteen years ago)

Sorry for not knowing how to make this formation all fancy looking and everything.
Also, even though I'm not a fan of Henry, the guy has been very humble and accepted to stay on the bench, this is very obviously his last game so I say let him play (also, his first ever game for France was against South Africa so finishing against the same team would be nice)

Jibe, Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:04 (fifteen years ago)

Sorry, fucked up formation, Abidal and Malouda should play on the left, Valbuena and Sagna on the right.

Jibe, Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:05 (fifteen years ago)

potentially nsfw I guess

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:10 (fifteen years ago)

fixed

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:15 (fifteen years ago)

I'd managed to forget that Diarra was in the squad! Touloulan suspended iirc. Ribery has been pretty awful all season for Bayern and France so agree he should drop out. I don't see any French football really so S Africa game was the first I'd seen of Valbuena, what type of player is he?

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:15 (fifteen years ago)

I actually found NK's not-diving really noticable! Man I really hope we are not just stuck with more and more diving forever :(

yeah there were def falls taken by the nk that they rolled out of and back into stride like nothing.

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:19 (fifteen years ago)

alou diarra is the third best defensive midfielder called diarra in the history of the world

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:19 (fifteen years ago)

This one's for Ned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B2LPxggvqY

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:20 (fifteen years ago)

so is the brazil/cote d'ivoire game gonna be good or what

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:21 (fifteen years ago)

you'd imagine so

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:23 (fifteen years ago)

good because it is basically the only game I can watch in it's entirety all week

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

Valbuena plays for Marseille. He's a small guy, quick, not really a good or great player but we really have a lack of players in offensive midfield on the right. But he's the kind that never gives up, keeps trying. Reminds me of Cissé in a way, not a great player but gives everything he has when on the field.
The way things are going, I'm almost expecting France to say "fuck the world cup" and just leave without even playing their game!

Jibe, Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:25 (fifteen years ago)

how do you rate gignac?

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

He's ok, still has some way to go to be considered a very good player. He's only had one good season after all, I'll wait till he has a few other good ones to rate him highly.

Jibe, Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:30 (fifteen years ago)

CALA BOCA GALVAO http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/16/nyregion/16about.html

Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

This is probably the game I was looking forward to most.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

A point might suit IC if they think they can beat NK in last game. Also I've never seen IC wear this kit before.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:35 (fifteen years ago)

Wonder why the guy with the headband, Germinio(?) isn't playing. Thought he was their best player in Cup of Nations.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

<3<3 these unis

geremi crossed the ball today (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

like, i would wear that as a shirt

geremi crossed the ball today (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

A draw here and a Portugal win tomorrow by a couple would mean Brazil having to beat Portugal in the last match.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:40 (fifteen years ago)

lucio vs drogba gonna be amusing

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

What's up with Kaká?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

Kaka is playing awful.

Popture, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:46 (fifteen years ago)

Kaka has been awful all season

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

I don't like seeing Kaká like this. He's the best player I've seen live and I'd like him at his best, please.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:49 (fifteen years ago)

like, i would wear that as a shirt

― geremi crossed the ball today (J0rdan S.), Sunday, June 20, 2010

no comment

Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

Not sure a draw is any good for Brazil here. Lose and they have to beat Portugal, draw and they probably have to beat Portugal so if still stalemated after an hour they better really go for it.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

xp yeah kaka's useless. between him, robinho, adriano, melo to some extent maybe it seems like dunga puts a lot of faith in the national team bringing something extra out of players no matter what form they're in

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

Nice work from the ref there. Taking them aside an telling them to cut it out. Could have used a bit of that in some recent games.

Popture, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

you'd just love having Lucio on your team

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

no comment

― Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:51 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

i mean the pattern, if it was on a polo shirt, i would wear it -- i don't wear jerseys in public

geremi crossed the ball today (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

oh my, classic cannonball finish

Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

Donovanesque finish

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

Lovely!

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

j0rdan i was teasing u abt the shirt rev thought was wack, but just joeks

Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

I was just about to post that Fabiano had been poor for Seville this season and then he pwns me.
Lando Don revisited
ha xpost

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

that finish!

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

sublime

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

j0rdan i was teasing u abt the shirt rev thought was wack, but just joeks

― Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:56 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark

oh ok, that's a dope shirt

geremi crossed the ball today (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

it's like they get to a WC and...they just can't help being brazil!

Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

and kaká contributing too

he's not dead yet

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

don't think this is gonna be a close game

iatee, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

lmao @ drogba

Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

The amazing falling Drogba

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

compressed perspective and homoeroticism of these super slowmos like some caravaggio .gif shit

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

Lol

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

I always get a kick out of players applauding teammates' misplaced or over hit passes towards them. It's like "hey that sucked but thanks for trying to pass to me dude and please do it again"

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

i think they should give each other gifts on the field

geremi crossed the ball today (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

they could all carry their checkbooks and write each other checks based on good balls

geremi crossed the ball today (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

or maybe just pieces of candy would suffice

geremi crossed the ball today (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

Thank you kisses

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

Ivory Coast offering nothing at the moment

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

I always get a kick out of players applauding teammates' misplaced or over hit passes towards them. It's like "hey that sucked but thanks for trying to pass to me dude and please do it again"

― not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, June 20, 2010

this is one of my favorite things

Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

never catch the Italians doing this, do you

Gohamist (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

he may only be a right back but there's an argument that maicon is a better exponent of his position than any player in the world

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

Jonathon Pierce on commentary "some of the stewards here (S Africa) have nothing in the world except massive smiles"

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

The offside calls have been superb at this world cup - I was howling at the telly there

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

On replay just realised how good Kaka's pass for the goal was.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

Jonathon Pierce on commentary "some of the stewards here (S Africa) have nothing in the world except massive smiles"

― not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:12 (1 minute ago) Bookmark

did he actually say that? what a cunt

i try to block out the incessant droning shite to better appreciate the vuvuzelas

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)

others are being shot by riot police

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, Gervinho - I'd forgotten who that was, he should definitely be on

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

The offside calls have been superb at this world cup - I was howling at the telly there

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, June 20, 2010

they've been veering on uncanny, with i think a couple of exceptions (NZ today springs to mind)

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

Ah yes, lovely from kaka

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

fabiano = heskey + confidence

rite

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

Shearer rofl

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

Shearer: "this isn't the Brazil we're used to seeing, they're very hard working"

it's at least twenty years since you could've accused them of being even slightly workshy

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:23 (fifteen years ago)

Shearer's punditry, however

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

Shearer: "this isn't the Brazil we're used to seeing, they're very hard working"

it's at least twenty years since you could've accused them of being even slightly workshy

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, June 20, 2010 7:23 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark

I Know! It's like he's got the 1982 team ingrained in his brain never to be erased.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)

and a-hanse phoning it in w/ his 'they learn to play on the beach' shit + nobody ever mentions that brazil having 190m ppl kinda helps in developing a good football team

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

Anyone notice the Brazil fans on the far side unfurling a huge banner just before halftime, and then a load of stewards racing over telling them NO.

Chris, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

ask those soccer giants china & india nav

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

So John Terry's gonna be picking the team on Weds yeah?

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)

if they had as many beaches as brazil, they might have good football teams too xp

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)

Capello to resign! If they don't reach the last 16. I love this SENIOR SOURCES stuff.

Chris, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

What's all this "if" about?

James Mitchell, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

wth is up w/kaka

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

Brazil also prepare better, train more rigorously, grow players more scientifically, etc and have done since the fifties - you'd think they were scooping up street urchins and sending them out in yellow shirts

Looking forward to the 2014 coverage already

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

Nice revising of goals there. Before the World Cup I could have sworn q-finals was the minimum requirement. Now it's the last 16.

xxpost

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

Ohhhhhh!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

Fuck!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

...

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

OMFG

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

Yep Heskey w/confidence alright

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

handball

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

FABIANO = HESKEY ?

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

double handball mind

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

lol two blatant handballs?

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

"daddy loves you" fabiano's so cute <3

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

I only came to see Eboue do a Rooney at the end of this match.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

So Shearer said at h-time
xpost

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

Ah, was a handball (just), but if it gets me up dancing & punching the air then I don't mind

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

I thought it hit his shoulder, too hard to tell for sure.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

:-(

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

hit his arm imo

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

So John Terry's gonna be picking the team on Weds yeah?

Fully looking forward to our new Johnson-Upson-Dawson-Warnock backline, then.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

ok 1st one did look like it may be his hand. Cant really believe the ref can be blamed for that though, it needed tv replays to sort it out.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

first one is a kuzmanovic, second one a kewell

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

I presume the ref caught him once it was replayed on the big screen. Wish Drogba had scored that header.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

that sequence was the prettiest of the whole game, too bad they didn't cash it

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

oh good lord

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

Blimey.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

All over now

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

beautiful. kaka still alive

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

"it is just like watching Brazil"

idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

what the hell is going on with kaka?

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

Fukkin magic, that

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

Kaka doing alright considering hes half fit lol. Set up 2, nearly scored a cracker himself.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

Kaka pretty cute imo

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

It's a fucking disgrace.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

Ivory Coast now basically reliant on North Korea getting a result against Portugal.

if, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

OK why is that not a straight red?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

Nasty

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

FUCK IVORY COAST oh my elanito!!!!!

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

well, at least elano will have some memories

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

alright someone school me about that challenge... it looked to me like he was trying to kick the ball

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

That was a terrible terrible challenge. I cannot believe that is not a red card considering what Klose got sent off with.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

his foot was high, studs showing, went in over the ball, nearly broke his leg..

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

looked like he broke his leg. no?

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

he was not walking

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

On the radio they said they had him stood up on the sideline

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

I would hope fifa ban him after the game for it since the ref didn't even give a yellow I think.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

Is it me or are the visiting fans getting more skilled with the vuvzelas, much more modulation, synchronisation etc.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

By the final it'll be like the Royal Philharmonic

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

ok. wtf w/ this guys?

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

hahahahaha

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

Even higher that challenge

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

that reaction was retarded tho

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

offside?

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

great pass, great run, class finish. it's on! xp super onside

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

fabulous from lucio just before the goal

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

yard onside but it did look off at first view

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

lucio is a beast!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

has there been a match with better goals than this one?

iatee, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

fabulous from lucio just before the goal

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:06 (1 minute ago)

huh?

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

brazil nk xp

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

ismael meant juan i think?

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

made a perfect tackle just seconds before

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

kaka alive and kicking

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

They're going down all over the shop.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

some of these "tackles" are a disgrace

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

all of these goals have been outstanding imo

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

ooh what's this all about then.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

Handbags!

James Mitchell, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

oh fuck

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

rumble

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

o, d00ds a wanker is what.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

hahahahahahaha

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

the ivory cost player is cheating

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

dirty bastards

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

Oh fucking hell

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

Kaka :'(.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

RIP kaka

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

what in the hell is going on

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

good luck, soccer

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

terrible decision

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

wtf

iatee, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

j0rdan cursed him imo

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

ref so stupid

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

this is a joke. referees in this world cup can just fuck off

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

The IC player should get banned for that

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

otm

iatee, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

I think they should just call this match done.

Popture, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

Alan Green laying into the French ref on Radio 5.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

gross

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

shd be ok, just miss the 3rd game

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

How can this referee send kaka off yet let that thug away with a shocking leg-breaker earlier?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

keita at least is as good as rivaldo in one respect

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

tiote is a cunt, hope someone breaks his legs

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

Ivory Coast are disgusting cheats and I really hope they get their arses kicked out of the world cup

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

*awaits the usual contrariness from NV*

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

tho the espn commentary is a little ott with smdh @ IC chastising

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

Tiote should have been carded too.

Popture, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

this ref should never work again

iatee, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)

xxps Could say the same about Brazil's handball goal.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)

they should rescind that yellow on kaka

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)

they don't rescind yellows only straight reds

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

oh

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

Great goalkeeping from Julio Cesar to cut out that cross - I don't think there will be many better saves in the World Cup, even though it wasn't a shot.

AlanSmithee, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

he'll miss one game he prob wdn't be needed for anyway

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

Clusterfuck to the world cup 2010

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, I agree - thought it looked needless when I first saw it but in the replay you see drogba's just out of shot and ready to head it in
xps

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

I came into that hoping Brazil might get knocked off their perch - but what's the point of that, it's like hating on The Beatles, they were so good. I do really hate Ivory Coast now, though.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

this game =

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CqDk4jAv_Y4/S857kg8mA_I/AAAAAAAABj8/9xN27rOgxP8/s400/05.jpg

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

fucking relax u guys

the ref didn't "send off" kaka, he gave him a yellow card. and while the IC dude sold the mock-foul pretty embarrassingly, the question imo is whether or not kaka lifting his elbow to defend himself was a yellow cardable offense. i'd say it wasn't, but it wasn't very sporting, either (ie it DOES seems like a v minor foul). like, if the ref had given a plain old foul, no one really would have cared or noticed.

but, he was out there with a card and then the ref made an overzealous ruling that earned him a 2nd and he went off. as an officiating error it's not really outrageous, and the dive was no more or less dramatic than some others i've seen. and kaka DID do something that could've caused unnecessary injury (we don't actually know if IC player was intending to run into kaka, or if he just took advantage of an actual surprise collision). taken together these equal kaka w/red. bummer :(

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

ban gbx

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

he'll miss one game he prob wdn't be needed for anyway

― nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:22 (53 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^otm, less of the handwringing guys really - also if you push someone in the chest you are liable to get a second yellow, which is what happened - I didn't get the impression that the ref gave much of a fuck about the dying swan bullshit either way

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

lol xp, just banned mysef tho

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

sticking an internet elbow in ur sternum right now gbx

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

I came into that hoping Brazil might get knocked off their perch - but what's the point of that, it's like hating on The Beatles, they were so good. I do really hate Ivory Coast now, though.

you're trolling right?

thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

who will be brazil's yoko?

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

why does he even run into kaka in that position anyway, seems a bit senseless given the position of the ball and kaka in ref to that

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

like i don't know where the ref was standing, but if he just saw *player running and not noticing kaka* and *INTENTIONAL elbow up* and *collision*, i think it'd be pretty reasonable to say that's some unsporting behavior and worthy of discipline. not a yellow card, but something.

it's only because we can see the replay that we know that the IC totally oversold it. but srsly dudes how is this any different than grabbing your right shin after a maybe-not-that-bad-but-still-shady tackle?

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

*orders IC jersey*

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

they should rescind that yellow on kaka

they should rescind all yellows for teams that fifa are happy winning the world cup.

then the world will be happy.

thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

BBC Panel doing a great job of forgetting the Zidane headbutt ever happened when mithering about how the ref couldn't have seen Kaka's sending-off offence.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

the ref didn't even see it

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

ref didn't see it
xpost

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

karma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgfRCa71Kmw

stofu (cozen), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)

hahahaha

what a sport

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)

this is a joke. referees in this world cup can just fuck off

what are you on? the decency balance is well in favour of refs rather than players at the moment.

thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

No, not really - I'd been wondering if Brazil were all emperor's new clothes, but they were just excellent

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

xp to whatever, that was

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:36 (fifteen years ago)

bloody hell ismael.

thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:36 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah I was gonna say I'd certainly have no problem with Tiote getting his salary garnished a la Rivaldo

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)

i was waiting for a headbutt from kaka :(

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4605/screenshot20100620at212.jpg

James Mitchell, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

Great game. Was impressed with Dom Joly the Brazilian goalkeeper.

cajunsunday, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)

they should rescind all yellows for teams that fifa are happy winning the world cup.

then the world will be happy.

― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:30 (7 minutes ago)

^^

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

honest q: if a ref doesn't see a foul, can he make a call just by trusting the word of the players on the field? if so, then kaka might have dug his own grave! ref shows up and says wha happen and IC says dude lifted his elbow on purpose to jack an unaware player when he didn't have to. brazil says wtf the guy is totally blowing this out of proportion and he didn't actually get hit in the face and wtf man. ref asks kaka 'did you lift up yr elbow when you noticed this guy was running right at you?' kaka: 'yes but it was in self-defense' ref: 'you could've have easily moved instead, that is intentional contact or w/e here is your foul'

again: ~not~ yellowcardable imo (i am not caek) but i guess i could see how a ref who will brook no nonsense on his pitch (not necessarily the case here) would come down hard in the interests of setting an example or something.

basically: the call itself wasn't shitty (kaka really did try to get one in), just the punishment. not even remotely controversial, tho, and banging on about disgraceful histrionics from like an entire nationality is sorta uglier than whatever it is you ppl thought you witnessed

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

Julio was flying!

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

he didn't ask kaka gbx. the reg gave the yellow b/c all ivory coast player were bzzzzing him. they speak french after all!

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)

(I meant Keita back there btw, confusing my Ivorian miscreants)

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:45 (fifteen years ago)

Was Kaka booked in a previous game? Actually, has a yellow in this one so is irrelevant, suck it up and it will be cleared next round and the only people missing out are the ones that have him in their FF team.

BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i dunno if civ are such terrible ppl, just tioté and keita

apart from drogba the only players only rly good players they have are yaya touré and gervinho, then some other useful players like romaric and kalou (and the injury-blighted arouna koné)

zokora at cb, eboué in cm....

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)

no he wasn't booked
xpost

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

ugh only players xp

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

I know it's important to educate people, but the BBC coverage is feeling a bit like Comic Relief.

Chris, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

srsly hope spain and brazil don't meet in the last 16 because there aren't enough great teams here to make up for losing one of those

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

Fabiano called his 2nd goal "the involuntary hand of God" after the game according to the radio!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

honest q: if a ref doesn't see a foul, can he make a call just by trusting the word of the players on the field?

NO

thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

lol @ argentina:

http://www.ole.com.ar/mundial/Paso-paso-manito-Fabiano_OLEIMA20100620_0105_16.jpg

PAREN LA MANO, CHE
Brasil le ganó tranquilo a un Costa de Marfil que pegó mucho, aunque con ayudita: en el segundo gol, Luis Fabiano acomodó la bocha con la mano pero se lo negó al juez cuando se lo preguntó. En el final, Dunga explotó con la roja a Kaká. Ah, ya pasó a octavos.

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)

xp Hey, I'm not saying that was the 'Day In The Life' of performances - it was more 'Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey' - it's more that they are another bloody excellent Brazilian team, playing with speed and strength and skill. Essentially everything to like about the game.

Basically, I can think of reasons to hate nearly every other footballing culture, but to hate on Brazil (which is what I was gearing up to) reflects worse on me than it does on them.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

Fabiano called his 2nd goal "the involuntary hand of God" after the game according to the radio!

― not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:55 (52 seconds ago)

tsk, intelligent design apologist and the world's shittest fighter

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xz8tp_baston-diogo-vs-fabiano_fun

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

srsly hope spain and brazil don't meet in the last 16 because there aren't enough great teams here to make up for losing one of those

― nakhchivan, Sunday, June 20, 2010 8:53 PM (2 minutes ago)

this is precisely what needs to happen in order to fuck up the corporate script. this world cup has nothing to do with football.

thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

ok really?! then that is pretty terrible. but then it's the ref who fucked up. everyone else was just doing what happens normally---try and pull a foul, see if it works. every nation in the world does this.

xp

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

If you watched the five minutes prior to kaka being sent off I think maybe the ref did it partly to settle everyone down. There was a dangerous vibe brewing that the unfair card punctuated.

Popture, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

but ismael they ain't that good.

thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

eriksson is blaming the refs

LOL

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i would have no problem with some giants getting drubbed out early on. pretty confident that some of the 'lesser footballing nations' would elevate their game simply because of the stakes.

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

The IC guy wasn't trying to win a foul though, was he? Play had already stopped. He was just trying to get kaka sent off.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

this is precisely what needs to happen in order to fuck up the corporate script. this world cup has nothing to do with football.

― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:59 (46 seconds ago)

nah i agree w/ you re fifa's cosy patronage of brazil but that's just contrary

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

this is precisely what needs to happen in order to fuck up the corporate script. this world cup has nothing to do with football.

― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever),

One of the worst posts ever on ILE

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

^^ corporate script kiddie

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

how are those different ismael

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

They are good! Anyway, it's Brazilian football in general I'm talking about - there's no reason in principle to hate them. Maybe if you're Argentine.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

The game was stopped for longer than the three minutes of injury time allotted, I think - not saying IC were *awfully* likely to grab two more goals in that time but it doesn't make it any less bafflingly stupid

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

xp to Ismael

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:05 (fifteen years ago)

also: did keita ~intentionally~ run into kaka in order to get him sent off? didn't look like it. did he seize an opportunity to sell the shit out of a pretty benign offense (again: kaka actually did elbow him on purpose instead of moving deflecting him more gently)? brotally. if the ref didn't see it, and isn't supposed to call things he didn't see, then the blame falls on his shoulders imo. all the rest was business as usual.

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

How does the IC guy's play-acting compare to Luis Fabiano and Robinho rolling around and punching the ground despite hardly being touched a few minutes before?

Chris, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:08 (fifteen years ago)

Also, will Luis Fabiano be vilified in the same way Thierry Henry is for that handball?

Chris, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:10 (fifteen years ago)

I thought the bad guy's name was Ismael Keita and was going to apologise on behalf of my people, but it was actually the other IC bad guy whose name is Ismael. (apparently there actually is a player called Ismael Keita, but he's Gabonese and so just missed out on the world cup)

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:10 (fifteen years ago)

anyway i think i probably will order an IC jersey tonight. they are pretty dope imo

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:14 (fifteen years ago)

Brazil v Spain, Italy v Netherlands, Germany v England...some 2nd round in prospect.

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:16 (fifteen years ago)

i think he ran into him deliberately, yes.

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:16 (fifteen years ago)

Anyway, I've calmed down and just see it as a harsh booking. I do think kaka was just standing his ground, though from some angles it looks like a weedy elbow - not the first player to get booked for that. He'll get a rest and be back for the second round.

Keita is a cheating scumbag though, but I guess that just entitles him to join the end of a very long queue. It's not like he's caused him to miss a desperately important match like cult hero Slaven Bilic for instance

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

Funny when French the referee asked Fabiano if he handled it. Was probably telling him he did it wrong and that Thierry Henry-stylee is more classy.

Chris, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

don't think brazil were brilliant, just ok, but three great finishes albeit one hand ball was pretty impressive. like i said earlier, no matter how stolid they set up or play in qualifying, it seems they can't suppress a need to display attacking flair at WCs.

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:18 (fifteen years ago)

"John Terry has urged England coach Fabio Capello to recall Joe Cole for the crucial World Cup Group C clash with Slovenia." wtf @ this, ex-captain picking the team he wants in public? A+!

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:20 (fifteen years ago)

yeah pretty much all the finishes in this game were great.

cynical prediction: brazil concedes a draw to portugal just to snuff any chance of advancement for the cote d'ivoire. seems probable that portugal might handle the dprk more handily than IC, too.

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)

Ismaël Keïta Vieira (born 08 July 1990 in Bamako[2]) is a Malian football player, who is currently playing for FC Nantes[3].

Keïta is a fast midfielder who is very strong and quick, his heading is very good. He is excellent in one to situations with his opponents, Keïta is very fast at attacking set and his distribution is very reliable, with a fantastic attitude.

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)

how on earth some bookies reckon argentina are the favourites ahead of brazil really defies all logic. they've totally controlled their games. they've never looked under threat. they've conceded meaningless goals at the end of games when they've switched off. juan+maicon+lucio are some of the strongest defenders in the tournament (sorry bastos, you're not quite up there). fabiano could be the top scorer. even a rotten looking kaká managed to set-up two goals. dani alves doesn't even make their first team. robinho is firing on all cylinders.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:26 (fifteen years ago)

maicon's middle-name is douglas btw

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:26 (fifteen years ago)

there's obv been a lot of cash on argentina post sk game

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)

this is precisely what needs to happen in order to fuck up the corporate script. this world cup has nothing to do with football.

otm

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)

http://anonnewswire.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/fight_the_power1.jpg

Bassong for Europe (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)

there's obv been a lot of cash on argentina post sk game

i couldn't help but take from that game that argentina have an amazing attack, higuain may be the top-scorer of the tournament, and messi is playing just as good as he does for barca, except his finishing hasn't been as sharp, but their defense is ticking time bomb. Demichelis, jeez.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)

kaka was telling the brazilian media "i'm sad w/ the situation" and "looking forward to fifa doing something"

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:36 (fifteen years ago)

It doesn't really matter that Kaka was sent off given that Brazil are through, but focussing on that over the lol handball is kind of missing the point.

Brazil have the look of World Cup winners about them. I just can't see anyone getting through that defence and even when they're not playing particularly well they still have enough firepower to beat most teams.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:37 (fifteen years ago)

Pretty sure the ref just wanted to send Kaka off though.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

yeah brazil are going to win this.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:42 (fifteen years ago)

any word on the status of elano?

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:42 (fifteen years ago)

not heard anything. looked pretty nasty.

anyone else think the brazilian national anthem sounds like the theme tune to a 1970s british sitcom?

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:45 (fifteen years ago)

damn i like their anthem

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

elano hobbled off apparently

probably be ok

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:48 (fifteen years ago)

elano's ok. say he will play next game ^______^

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:48 (fifteen years ago)

Elano was able to hobble down the tunnel according to the guardian, which is better than I'd feared.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:49 (fifteen years ago)

i also like the anthem, it's the jaunty bit at the beginning

da na da na da na da na, deedly doo
da na da na da na da na da na na

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:49 (fifteen years ago)

Elano's gone to Chelsea

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

tiote 6 fouls (4 in the 2nd half)
drogba 5
keita 1 (the worst....)

also gilberto silva ran 11km!

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:55 (fifteen years ago)

hi ho gilberto silva.

that's what i call running the midfield (boom boom).

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 20 June 2010 21:57 (fifteen years ago)

I always find that 'ground covered' stat really disappointing since I found out that 90 mins' brisk walking will take you about 9km

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)

brazil anthem must be craziest of all the anthems

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:01 (fifteen years ago)

Elano's gone to Chelsea

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:51 (6 minutes ago)

rly?

i've just listened to the brazilian national anthem half a dozen times and i have to disagree

it has a spritely classicism quite unlike a lot of the pompous shite eg uk's anthem, but nowhere does it sound like sitcom music imo

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:01 (fifteen years ago)

think the french have the anthem game sown up, but i have a lot of affection for the brazil

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:01 (fifteen years ago)

spain too

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:02 (fifteen years ago)

no lyrics helps

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:02 (fifteen years ago)

imo spanish one sucks because there's no lyrics. i like to see the really pumped up guys shouting along, the cba or don't know the words guys mumbling, and the so moved as to be unable to do anything but stand with their hand on their heart with the bottom lip trembling.

in the chile honduras game they cut out the refrain at the end of the chilean national anthem which is the best bit by far. also sort of ironic that a country most known to the man in the street for its military dictatorship has the refrain "or the asylum against oppression" at the end of their anthem.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:06 (fifteen years ago)

yeah but if spain's anthem had lyrics they'd probably be terrible

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:14 (fifteen years ago)

Looks like I picked the wrong game to not have a TV or internet. After seeing the replay I have to say Kaka's red is harsh but overall it's not that bad, he'll still get to play the round of 16 and just miss a game against Portugal. Couldn't really see where the ref was when he committed his foul but if he was a bit far, it is easy to understand why he'd pull a card out. However, what surprises me is that no one is talking about Fabiano who is twice as good as Henry. Actually, no make that thrice. He manages to commit two handballs to score a goal AND to get away with it completely. I guess people dislike France far more than Brazil and love ireland far more than IC then :D

Jibe, Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:16 (fifteen years ago)

yeah there was a thing in the spanish papers a while back, maybe a couple of years ago, about some lyrics that had been provisionally commissioned for it and they were both terrible, in the sense of aesthetics, and deeply controversial politically - annoying the nationalities etc.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:17 (fifteen years ago)

I was thinking the NZ one was really terrible, I'm impressed the boys managed to pick themselves up and come back from that. Australia's very poor too but at least builds towards some kind of climax.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:17 (fifteen years ago)

Brazil won't mind at all that Kaka won't play Portugal. In fact I think they'll actively want to draw that game in order to stop the Ivory Coast from progressing, after all that ill sentiment/awful play-acting from Keita. Plus there's a BOND - about 5 of the players on the pitch will be playing for the wrong country :D

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:18 (fifteen years ago)

Fabiano's a minor offender compared to Henry, Jibe - the first wasn't deliberate at all, and the second he was actually trying to chest it but just couldn't quite reach. And he had the good grace to pretend he hadn't done it, unlike Henry who tried to act all good and ask for a replay when he knew it was impossible.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

the issue there is more abt consequences of WC refereeing being ass than kaka consequences

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:21 (fifteen years ago)

I think Portugal will struggle against NK tomorrow - wouldn't even rule out a draw then NK beating IC and getting through

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:21 (fifteen years ago)

Henry also handled it twice, & didn't even have to let the ball bounce inbetween. tru skills.

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:22 (fifteen years ago)

Ha, yeah I know his handballs are a minor offense. But i could say the same for Henry : it was just a reaction he couldn't control! :D I don' really care anyway, I think France's place in this world cup has been well worth it.

Jibe, Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

(for the laughs obv, not the quality of play)

Jibe, Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:25 (fifteen years ago)

What are the expectations in France now, Jibe? Is there any hope they might turn it round, or are you resigned to a Uru-Mex draw plus a thrashing at the hands of South Africa?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:30 (fifteen years ago)

One of the guys on ITV highlights pundit panel (Andy Townsend and Jim Beglin, can't remember which one) wanted elbow-in-the-chest guy banned for 10 games. Proportionate response, good punditing :-/

ailsa, Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

would be fine with that tbh

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:49 (fifteen years ago)

only thing they're turning round is the team coach wawawawa

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:50 (fifteen years ago)

One of the guys on ITV highlights pundit panel (Andy Townsend and Jim Beglin, can't remember which one) wanted elbow-in-the-chest guy banned for 10 games. Proportionate response, good punditing :-/

― ailsa, Sunday, June 20, 2010 5:44 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

totally batshit

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:50 (fifteen years ago)

Right now, I don't think anybody is really thinking about tuesday's game, we're just in awe of what's happening. And tbh, I'm pretty sure nobody wants to see France go through (well except maybe for the lols to continue). Uru-Mex can draw in the most blatant way and we won't give a fuck. Some people are even saying we should let SA thrash us 6-0 or something like that so they go through, in case the other game isn't a draw (not gonna happen voluntarily I hope, but if it does, well it'll just be more fun in what has been a great week for French football and we'll make an enemy out of either Mex or Uru). Also, the way things are going, it would only come as half a surprise if France pulled out of the competition altogether (again not gonna happen I hope but who knows...).

With this situation, theories abound (and some even make sense!). Domenech for example. In 08, after the disaster that was our Euro and the 3-1 defeat to Austria, the players rallied behind him and claimed their support to him just about everywhere in the press. Seeing how they behave wrt to him now, in retrospect it makes it look like they told him "we'll support you but you let us deal with everything, you'll just be there for show". I really despised what he did with the French team but it looks like he really isn't the one to blame for their poor showing. Also, I feel bad for some of the players on the team who don't look like they're the ones raising such a ruckus yet they'll be put in the same bag.

Jibe, Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:51 (fifteen years ago)

not if u don't think clearcut dishonestly trying to get someone sent off has no part in the game. it's unrealistic not batshit. xpost

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:53 (fifteen years ago)

prob a few too many negs in there but you know what i mean

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

i think uruguay vs mexico won't be a draw. both don't want to face argentina.

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)

still not convinced that he ran into kaka on purpose!

flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)

the whole thing is a magnificent soap opera, Jibe.

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)

gbx: me neither, would have to see it again, but that was my feeling. it's hard to run into somebody completely off the ball like that

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)

Please to google the name Kyle Lafferty (you could probably just search the ILX SPL thread) for recent responses to blatant trying-to-get-people-sent-off. Retrospective bans for leg-breaking tackles (not Kyle Lafferty, just generally) generally carry a top limit of 6 games, so 10 game ban ideas seems like OTT overreactions.

ailsa, Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:58 (fifteen years ago)

Quite liked how JOHN FUCKING TERRY popped up as Anelka's character witness, because I'd bet you any money that if there's any major poisonous anti-Capello presence in the England squad then England's Brave John Terry is at the heart of it.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:07 (fifteen years ago)

You really need to see more than just the highlight of the Kaka incident. The game was getting ugly before that. Players were in each others faces. Still convinced that the card was partly to stop things getting out of hand.

Also, I think you'd be nuts to call North Korea an easy win for either Ivory Coast of Portugal. Hell, I wouldn't rule them out of going through just yet.

Popture, Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:13 (fifteen years ago)

Heck, even Dunga was screaming his head off for 5 minutes before that. It set a weird tone that had everyone on edge.

Popture, Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:16 (fifteen years ago)

Back to national anthems for a moment... who decides that England sing "God Save The Queen" in football? The FA? The Queen? John Terry? It really is a shite national anthem. Wish they'd sing something else.

Chris, Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:17 (fifteen years ago)

red cards don't stop things getting out of hand. they often tend to fan the flames. the referee should have been a bit more liberal with the yellows earlier on imo, brazil players were getting a bit of a kicking and the ref didn't give them much protection (studs into elano's shin didn't even result in a free-kick to brazil). Combined with the weak sending off and missing the two handballs in the run up to the second goal it's pretty much the worst refereeing display of the competition so far, yes, perhaps even eclipsing the US the other day.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:17 (fifteen years ago)

Chris, I was railing about the need to install Jerusalem as our national anthem this very morning

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:18 (fifteen years ago)

also agree with jim, tackle on Elano was straight-red, no question

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:19 (fifteen years ago)

someone should start a 'new england nat'l anthem' poll

max, Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:21 (fifteen years ago)

*Jerusalem
*Jerusalem
*Jerusalem
*Wonderwall

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:21 (fifteen years ago)

i vote for 'champagne supernova'

looool xp

max, Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:22 (fifteen years ago)

tradition decides england sing god save the queen in football. the same way that until the mid/late 90s the union jack was the flag associated with the english national team, and the word english was synonymous with british before the second world war. the idea that it's not specifically english enough which is getting bandied about, and which i'm not saying is your objection to it, is sort of nonsense considering that it has a verse about trampling unruly scots or whatever which means it's not really going for the happy pluralism of nationalities thing a specifically "british" anthem would be going for.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:22 (fifteen years ago)

and that tackle on michel bastos (i think), from other player (maybe tiote)? straight-red too.

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:22 (fifteen years ago)

oh hahahahaha max high five of shame

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:23 (fifteen years ago)

yes the tackle on bastos was appalling as well

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:24 (fifteen years ago)

wait hang on I got it confused - Elano tackle WASN'T a red, it was accidental and Elano went in harder - was thinking of the Bastos challenge

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:24 (fifteen years ago)

yeah wouldn't say tackle with elano was a red but it was a foul at least.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:26 (fifteen years ago)

Retrospective bans for leg-breaking tackles (not Kyle Lafferty, just generally) generally carry a top limit of 6 games, so 10 game ban ideas seems like OTT overreactions.

yep, absolutely, & was thinking about this, esp. in light of the elano tackle, as i wrote. but tackles are part of the game where intent is a judgment, pretending to be hit in the face is clearcut.

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:28 (fifteen years ago)

is god save the queen the 'british' anthem as well as the 'uk' anthem

max, Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:28 (fifteen years ago)

whats the scottish anthem, 'i would walk 500 miles'? much better than gstq imo

max, Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:29 (fifteen years ago)

Thanks for the info Humbert. My problem with it is that it's about god and the queen. And the tune is so dull! I want the theme tune to the Archers, like Billy Connolly suggested.

Chris, Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:29 (fifteen years ago)

scottish anthem's "flower of scotland" isn't it?

Chris, Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:31 (fifteen years ago)

i am as big a jerusalem stan as anyone (i think it's actually maybe *better* than Marseilles, or close to it anyway) but strangely i have been finding it v. stirring lately when I hear gstq over the vuvuzelas!

Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:32 (fifteen years ago)

british and uk used interchangebly. it's the official anthem of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland if we want to get specific.

scotland doesn't have an official anthem but they use "flower of scotland" for football and rugby. it's a fairly recentish song (1970s and specifically made to be a song for the rugby iirc) and is a dirge and kind of lame. before that "scotland the brave" and going back even further "scots wha hae" (text by robert burns, doubt more than 1 in 10 scottish people could even tell you what the title meant) would be considered the unofficial scottish anthems.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:33 (fifteen years ago)

scots wha hae a++++ wtg robbie burns

max, Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:33 (fifteen years ago)

scots wha hae gets extra points for having the good national anthem tradition of extolling the virtues of dying within the first few lines.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:37 (fifteen years ago)

Average points per match by confederation (inter-confed matches only, ie intra-confed removed):

CONMEBOL 2.50
UEFA 1.35
CONCACAF 1.20
AFC+OFC 1.00
CAF 0.64

hey anatol_merklich, where do i get this w/ updates?

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:38 (fifteen years ago)

they sang "a man's a man for a' that" at the opening of the scots parliament, which was pretty rad

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:46 (fifteen years ago)

yeah would be my choice for scottish anthem tbh

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:46 (fifteen years ago)

whats the scottish anthem, 'i would walk 500 miles'? much better than gstq imo

they do play that song at all scotland home games. also if you walk through glasgow on the day of a scotland game you will definitely hear "dignity" by deacon blue and probably "somewhere in my heart" by aztec camera emanating from a pub.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:48 (fifteen years ago)

"sunshine on leith" ? too parochial?

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:49 (fifteen years ago)

elano
http://s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/original/2010/06/20/canelaelano62.jpg

moullet, Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:49 (fifteen years ago)

i remember they all sang it at a party in trainspotting with greeting and whatnot xpost

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:50 (fifteen years ago)

This was the worst performance from a ref of the competition so far. The sending off was stupid - BBC highlights show he couldn't have seen the incident that led to Kaka's second yellow. Also - did anyone notice that as the ref was running back to the middle after Fabiano's Two Hands goal he seemed to be having a bit of a joke with him: "Did you use your hands there? ho ho", "No, guv honest, ho ho." Brazil are allowed to cheat, it seems.

kraudive, Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:50 (fifteen years ago)

ref didn't get the fifa conspiracy memo

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:51 (fifteen years ago)

or did but then forgot

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:51 (fifteen years ago)

"sunshine on leith" ? too parochial?

Hibs song. The club is based in Leith, the proclaimers are from Leith and hibs supporters, it's played at Hibs games etc. i like the song.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:52 (fifteen years ago)

which soccer club has a blue nile song as its anthem, because that is the club i would like to support

max, Monday, 21 June 2010 00:37 (fifteen years ago)

Missed our game last night, 2am kick off so awoke this morning and couldn't quite believe the result. Sounds like we were lucky to get away with the offside goal but OTOH Italy resorted to some fairly desperate tactics to get a penalty, and that overall the ref heavily favoured the Italians.

My second round money is looker safer by the day.Another little gem from this great story, total number of NZ professional soccer players worldwide = 24

kiwi, Monday, 21 June 2010 00:50 (fifteen years ago)

Also - did anyone notice that as the ref was running back to the middle after Fabiano's Two Hands goal he seemed to be having a bit of a joke with him: "Did you use your hands there? ho ho", "No, guv honest, ho ho."

The dozens of Cote d'Ivoire rooters in the student union here noticed, that's for sure.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 21 June 2010 00:51 (fifteen years ago)

Haha, it seems that Fabulous Capello called off the clear-the-air meeting that John Terry said was going to happen last night.

Chris, Monday, 21 June 2010 00:59 (fifteen years ago)

BBC highlights show he couldn't have seen the incident that led to Kaka's second yellow.

The Cranky Panel made a lot of that but surely refs get told things by their assistants and linesmen etc, one of whom must have seen it?

None of the angles made it clear if it was a rough elbow or not but yes, the grabbing the face thing = hilar.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 June 2010 01:28 (fifteen years ago)

wasn't rough, and his own fault for (no doubt purposefully) running into it

mookieproof, Monday, 21 June 2010 01:31 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.mocksession.com/30fps/%20/SHOTTHROUGHTHEHEART.gif

mookieproof, Monday, 21 June 2010 01:48 (fifteen years ago)

hahaahahahahahahaha

k3vin k., Monday, 21 June 2010 02:07 (fifteen years ago)

okay maybe not purposefully but

mookieproof, Monday, 21 June 2010 02:10 (fifteen years ago)

I do basically the same thing when somebody is about to bump into me...putting your arm up to protect yourself is sorta instinctive

iatee, Monday, 21 June 2010 02:10 (fifteen years ago)

he does more than put his arm out.

mizzell, Monday, 21 June 2010 02:19 (fifteen years ago)

well...he's walking at the same time, i guess

k3vin k., Monday, 21 June 2010 02:20 (fifteen years ago)

. . . in the not-face

mookieproof, Monday, 21 June 2010 02:21 (fifteen years ago)

anyone who thinks kaka did anything out of the ordinary there is insane

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 June 2010 02:21 (fifteen years ago)

he gave him maybe a minimal nudge

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 June 2010 02:22 (fifteen years ago)

seems like a normal defensive position for like any sport, reminds me of working for position in the paint

k3vin k., Monday, 21 June 2010 02:23 (fifteen years ago)

yeah it doesn't look so egregious on the gif replay

flapjackin (gbx), Monday, 21 June 2010 03:28 (fifteen years ago)

the elbow i mean

flapjackin (gbx), Monday, 21 June 2010 03:28 (fifteen years ago)

hey anatol_merklich, where do i get this w/ updates?

well from Excel or similar by entering a few numbers... or here:

CONMEBOL 2.56
UEFA 1.35
CONCACAF 1.20
AFC+OFC 1.00
CAF 0.58

anatol_merklich, Monday, 21 June 2010 05:26 (fifteen years ago)

quality article about US tactics http://www.noshortcorners.com/2010/06/5-points-from-friday_20.html

156, Monday, 21 June 2010 05:36 (fifteen years ago)

thank you! :)

moullet, Monday, 21 June 2010 05:36 (fifteen years ago)

http://i46.tinypic.com/ac4jli.jpg

156, Monday, 21 June 2010 06:11 (fifteen years ago)

^^^probing data

mookieproof, Monday, 21 June 2010 06:15 (fifteen years ago)

The ref will have seen Fabiano's handball on the big screen after the goal had been awarded. If his assistants told him then he would have disallowed it. I quite liked that he found it amusing, like a recognition that there's only so much he can do, and shit will still happen.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 06:56 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, I liked the comedy value in it with Fabiano mock-pretending he hadn't done it when he knew everyone had just seen it.

BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Monday, 21 June 2010 07:14 (fifteen years ago)

whoooooa I had no idea england's national anthem was "my country tis of thee"

maybe it's because you're a tedious creep! (dyao), Monday, 21 June 2010 08:25 (fifteen years ago)

britishers get your own anthem please, this one's ours

maybe it's because you're a tedious creep! (dyao), Monday, 21 June 2010 08:26 (fifteen years ago)

that brazil sending off foul is a complete joke, hope ivory coast get nowhere in this now.

go O and O (Ste), Monday, 21 June 2010 09:07 (fifteen years ago)

The ref will have seen Fabiano's handball on the big screen after the goal had been awarded.

This is so weird.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 June 2010 09:08 (fifteen years ago)

that brazil sending off foul is a complete joke, hope ivory coast get nowhere in this now.

Nothing would be sweeter than Portugal being denied the opportunity to progress because of some fuck-awful refereeing decisions.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 09:16 (fifteen years ago)

I haven't really been paying attention this weekend - is Paraguay possibly the real deal?

I did catch a bit of Brazil and my lord the way they knock it around.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 June 2010 09:22 (fifteen years ago)

not sure how anyone who is in favour of a brazilian team containing lucio, dani alves, robinho and luis fabiano can get so het up about that cheating ivorian chap. i agree its really ugly and pathetic, but brazil have no problem clutching at their faces/convulsing on the ground whenever they get brushed into by a player on a booking.

spaghetti, Monday, 21 June 2010 09:27 (fifteen years ago)

anyway, lol france:

L'EQUIPE - "A rebellion? No, a caprice. A strike? No, cowardliness. Don't deceive yourself. The republican solidarity that our players showed the world yesterday is an illusion. The [soccer federation] has created a farce; its froth is is just a stink bomb that keeps on exploding. Patrice Evra has once and for all shown that he has muddled up the role of captain with that of a gang leader. Raymond Domenech, by lending a hand to this masquerade and reading out himself the players' statement, has missed his final opportunity to show some style and courage."

LE PARISIEN - "Everyday, 'les Bleus' push back the frontiers of the unacceptable ... This band of spoilt children, left free to do what they like by their entire hierarchy, has no limit, no sense of duty so close to the match against South Africa. To have the worst soccer team at the World Cup was already unbearable. To also have the most stupid is intolerable ... The mutiny at Knysna will forever remain the Waterloo of French soccer."

LE FIGARO - "It is collective suicide ... the French team has heaped ridicule on itself in front of the whole world yesterday at Knysna. The 'field of dreams' became the set of a living nightmare. It was almost hallucinatory. This is a psychodrama that will go down in the history of the World Cup. The French team has been reduced to ashes."

LIBERATION - "If this charade has a guilty partner (Nicolas Anelka), and culprits (all those 'striking' players who do not merit their salary, nor the chance to ply the profession that they dreamt of doing as children), there is also someone who is responsible for all this: the coach of the French soccer team. We take them to be role models for kids who have lost their way in life, but in reality they are just bling-bling traders for a sport which yesterday lost a lot of credit in France."

LE PROGRES DE LYON - "They should have contented themselves with being bad on the pitch and arrogant off it as they already have been for a few years. Honestly, they amaze us ... (no doubt) they can do even worse."

LES DERNIERES NOUVELLES D'ALSACE - "In a certain way France has already made a success of the 2010 World Cup History will remember only two teams from this World Cup: that of the winning country and also perhaps France ... 'les Bleus' [have shown] great mastery of a worldwide scandal. A triumph!"

VOSGES MATIN - "Too much is too much! The spectacle made by this team of multi-millionaires is a disgrace to all French people."

LA REPUBLIQUE DU CENTRE - "We are no longer in the presence of nasty brats ... but of professional sportsmen not worthy of wearing the French national colours."

FRANCE SOIR - "Clearly nothing can be expected of 'Les Bleus'. Their achievements are shameful: France is the laughing stock of the world."

spaghetti, Monday, 21 June 2010 09:27 (fifteen years ago)

brazil have no problem clutching at their faces/convulsing on the ground whenever they get brushed into by a player on a booking.

Rivaldo to thread.

James Mitchell, Monday, 21 June 2010 09:29 (fifteen years ago)

ah tbf forgot about him. okay forget what i said

go O and O (Ste), Monday, 21 June 2010 09:31 (fifteen years ago)

This Terry stuff is fun.

Sounds like the players all agreed they were going to talk to Capello, then bottled it when Terry went public. Terry is the only player who can say anything about disquiet among the players because he is undroppable due to injuries and suspensions. Also, Chelsea regularly have clear-the-air talks and are normally quite brazen about it, but other clubs don't operate like that, hence their discomfort. But it sounds like the players got what they wanted, despite the spin the press are giving it (Capello CRUSHES Terry revolt by er, agreeeing to what the players were asking for).

Pete W, Monday, 21 June 2010 09:32 (fifteen years ago)

More interested in Abebayor getting kicked off the BBC, tbh.

James Mitchell, Monday, 21 June 2010 09:34 (fifteen years ago)

Where's Beckham been in all this?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 09:34 (fifteen years ago)

Beckham wants to be liked by everybody and is eyeing an ambassador job with the FA. He can't do this sort of thing, obvious plant by management.

Pete W, Monday, 21 June 2010 09:38 (fifteen years ago)

why didn't kaka just move out of keita's way?

stofu (cozen), Monday, 21 June 2010 09:40 (fifteen years ago)

Because he's a dick?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 June 2010 09:40 (fifteen years ago)

why blame kaká for having someone run into him. anyone who thinks he even committed a foul needs their head looked at. either that or i'm basically a mma practitioner on a football pitch.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Monday, 21 June 2010 09:44 (fifteen years ago)

that brazil sending off foul is a complete joke, hope ivory coast get nowhere in this now.

read this sentiment a few times yet very little of the fact that Brazil were guilty of repeated play-acting throughout the game to try to get IC players booked. I think Brazilians rolling about like idiots after every single slightest bit of contact was what led to the match becoming so heated, like the IC players thought "fuck it, if they're going to do this every time we may as well make it hurt". Dunga was a fucking idiot as well - surely he'd want to take the heat out of the already won game and protect his players?

I don't see any value for Brazil in having Kaka reinstated for match 3 - it would mean a yellow card puts him out of the first knock-out game (think aldo said as much upthread somewhere).

Strange game for Kaka all round though. He managed to look shit for the entire match while setting up two goals then got sent off for bracing himself when someone deliberately ran into him.

Really enjoying Brazil when they get going but they're certainly a more functional than entertaining unit compared to the last couple of World Cups.

Hoping for DPRK to pull off a wee shock today.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 09:48 (fifteen years ago)

anyone who thinks he even committed a foul needs their head looked at

jim otm in glasgow

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 09:49 (fifteen years ago)

I don't think it's a foul, keita's not even looking where he's going

stofu (cozen), Monday, 21 June 2010 09:50 (fifteen years ago)

http://apina.nwps.ws/full/31438.gif

stofu (cozen), Monday, 21 June 2010 09:58 (fifteen years ago)

that's a foul, and a sore one too tbh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:00 (fifteen years ago)

definitely, straight red for wahlberg

stofu (cozen), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:02 (fifteen years ago)

he's not even looking at the ball as he pulls the trigger there brian

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:03 (fifteen years ago)

Chelsea regularly have clear-the-air talks

i would guess so.

good news for the tabloids, the referee for the england match on weds is german, and is called wolfgang.

spaghetti, Monday, 21 June 2010 10:05 (fifteen years ago)

Diff btwn Terry at England calling his own little meetings, and Terry at Chelsea calling them-

Terry doesn't run the England team.

BTW, assuming a dude was away from all forms of media yesterday and didn't see anything, what'di miss?

(am now aware that kaka was sent off for a dude running into him, paraguay scored a goal and NZ were running italy close)

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:08 (fifteen years ago)

EBJT is going to "lead" England off a cliff if he isn't careful. Massive, massive bellend. It would be kinda lol and kinda terrifying to watch Capello start with Upson and Dawson for a laugh.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:09 (fifteen years ago)

so wait the english media apparently seem to think that john terry isn't a massive crybaby prick about all this- have i missed something, or do enguleesh ilxors feel this way too?

xp lol i guess that's an answer

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:10 (fifteen years ago)

Oh god please don't with the Grauniad EBJT ho ho ho, we're so snide/smart thing.

Pete W, Monday, 21 June 2010 10:15 (fifteen years ago)

We can call him Mr Chelsea if that would be better?

I just picture him sitting in his hotel seething with resentment that he isn't the captain any more and stirring/winding up all the other players as a result.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:16 (fifteen years ago)

English media were generally on Terry's side yesterday, now they are on Capello's. It seems to depend which they think will be more amusing/disruptive/allow them to get in a moral flap about things that don't really matter.

Pete W, Monday, 21 June 2010 10:17 (fifteen years ago)

'I just picture him sitting in his hotel seething with resentment that he isn't the captain any more and stirring/winding up all the other players as a result.'

I think it's probably a bit more complicated than that.

Pete W, Monday, 21 June 2010 10:17 (fifteen years ago)

The irony of the adulterous son of a drug dealer and shoplifter saying: "If we can't be honest, there is no point being out here."

James Mitchell, Monday, 21 June 2010 10:18 (fifteen years ago)

. It seems to depend which they think will be more amusing/disruptive/allow them to get in a moral flap about things that don't really matter.

now there's a position I can sympathise with

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:18 (fifteen years ago)

i think there is some truth to that. football is such a big deal in this country that sports writers have to report on every mundane utterance a footballer makes. i would imagine that a lot of them grow to hate footballers and their dull, media managed press conferences and that they therefore need no encouragement to whip up a storm of excitement, if only for their own amusement/to make their jobs seem necessary.

spaghetti, Monday, 21 June 2010 10:32 (fifteen years ago)

"how journalism works"

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:36 (fifteen years ago)

why was John Terry allowed to have his own news conference (this is the impression i've got, could be mistaken)? what about Gerrard?

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:38 (fifteen years ago)

would be kinda lol and kinda terrifying to watch Capello start with Upson and Dawson for a laugh

Wow yeah, he should do this because those two should still be good enough to see off Slovenia, then he has two high-on-confidence centre backs for the next round. If they go down, might as well go down being bold.

(caveat that I haven't read the papers and don't really know what the problem is here)

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 10:39 (fifteen years ago)

seeing "capello could resign if england go out" on my ESPN ticker, presumably more bored journalists at work. i mean, anyone could resign at any time, so what.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:41 (fifteen years ago)

According to 'sources', it appears to be the kind of resignation that Paulus didn't make at Stalingrad

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 10:46 (fifteen years ago)

"Capello could be forced out because the players that have always beeing coddled don't like not being coddled and aren't going to play if they're not coddled despite not being all that while they were being coddled"

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:48 (fifteen years ago)

Henry Winter has a slightly more restrained view than the tabloids and the Guardian (whose football coverage, with the notable exception of Conn and Wilson, are largely indistinguishable.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup-2010/teams/england/7842062/World-Cup-2010-England-players-tell-Fabio-Capello-they-want-Joe-Cole-in-the-team.html

Pete W, Monday, 21 June 2010 10:49 (fifteen years ago)

Must be a hell of a shock after living under the notoriously lax regimes of people like Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:50 (fifteen years ago)

media coverage of individual clubs radically different to that of england tho matt, which makes it tougher for a coach to 'be the boss'

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:51 (fifteen years ago)

Also helps that at club level players aren't living in a sealed bubble for five weeks or so.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:52 (fifteen years ago)

on a strict diet of fucking waahburgers

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:54 (fifteen years ago)

yes yes i was completely irational with my ivory coast deserve to fail comment, as i) i didn't watch the whole game and ii) overlooked all of brazils play acting in the past. call it monday morning knee jerking.

anyway. i will be mostly upset but not surprised if england fail on wednesday. we can actually get through on a draw yes? if usa lose.

i'm just concerned that i'll have no footy to watch after this until late august. should i watch tennis?

go O and O (Ste), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:54 (fifteen years ago)

Terry dropped over this would eb the A1 message, but he's actually played p well so far?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:54 (fifteen years ago)

xp. space between july 11th and late august will contain pre-season friendlies.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:56 (fifteen years ago)

england could range anywhere from 4-0 victory to a 1 goal loss and it wouldn't surprise anyone tbh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:57 (fifteen years ago)

Don't think you can really criticise the defence too much, apart from Carragher and their general habit of hoofing hopeful balls up the pitch to no one, which happened three or four times in the first few minutes. Dunno why Ashley Cole seems to be so subdued coming forward though.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:57 (fifteen years ago)

I'm not allowed criticise Carragher, tbh :(

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:57 (fifteen years ago)

Cole subdued- Gerrard on left (lol as if) innit

Defence hoofing- no midfielders want the ball lol innit

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:58 (fifteen years ago)

srsly why was Terry talking to the press?

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:59 (fifteen years ago)

If England draw and the US lose, Slovenia and Algeria go through

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 10:59 (fifteen years ago)

yeah why?? i'm not sure what's more lol right now, terry or france

sonderangerbot, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:00 (fifteen years ago)

Teams know that you stop Cole and Rooney and England fall apart.

Jarlrmai, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:00 (fifteen years ago)

bbc say capello says upson in for carragher. and yeah, terry may be a whining ballbag with a face like a grieving old hag, but he has been ok on the pitch so far, which is more than you can say for any of englands attacking players.

spaghetti, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:01 (fifteen years ago)

England can only go through with a draw if the other game's also a draw but the England game has six more goals

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:01 (fifteen years ago)

personally i am delighted that noted football tactician john terry has taken time out of his busy schedule to give rookie coach fab capello a few pointers.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:01 (fifteen years ago)

all he really wanted was a pint before bedtime

sonderangerbot, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:04 (fifteen years ago)

'srsly why was Terry talking to the press?'

He went rogue in a fuck da boss CFC-WC pincer movement with Anelka. Pre-arranged before World Cup, Ballack was also supposed to take part.

Alternatively, he was asked to do so by the England coaching staff, which doesn't strike me as particularly couplike.

Pete W, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:25 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah every player talks to the press, it's a world cup! The issues isn't "why do players give interviews" it's "wtf is Terry doing using a press conference to criticise the manager's selection, tactics and man-management only days before a massive must-win game?"

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:29 (fifteen years ago)

Is it cause he's a dick?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:30 (fifteen years ago)

"The [soccer federation] has created a farce; its froth is is just a stink bomb that keeps on exploding."

Love this quote upthread from the French papers.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:31 (fifteen years ago)

This too: To have the worst soccer team at the World Cup was already unbearable. To also have the most stupid is intolerable

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:33 (fifteen years ago)

By the way, everybody was slamming Heskey but he seemed like... England's best player on the day! Am I insane?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:34 (fifteen years ago)

True Tracer, maybe the question is "why the fuck isn't the whole nation coming down on him like a ton of bricks for undermining the team & manager in order to make himself look the big man?"

Wonder how unemployed footballer Joe Cole will cope with being England's saviour. No pressure Joe...

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:34 (fifteen years ago)

Heskey playing well or not (and he did particularly well in the first game) isn't the issue - it's that Heskey playing *at all* has a detrimental effect on how the team plays football.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:35 (fifteen years ago)

Hoho just turned on the game and assumed that NK were in red and thought to myself 'blimey their number 7 looks a bit good' then realised it was Ronaldo.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:35 (fifteen years ago)

By the way, everybody was slamming Heskey but he seemed like... England's best player on the day! Am I insane?

Not insane, but maybe a little save-a-Heskey tbh. I didn't see the full USA game, but against Algeria he was pretty useless- A Cole, Terry certainly much better.

Frustration with Heskey is that he's always useless, which is allowable when Rooney plays well for some reason.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:36 (fifteen years ago)

Love this photo
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1231/1311131671_f052354888.jpg

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:37 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah every player talks to the press, it's a world cup!

This seemed more like a representative for the players coming forward. If other players have given press conferences on their own fine, but this seemed like Terry Still Being The Captain/Pulling Rank to me. So what does Gerrard think, if anything?

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:37 (fifteen years ago)

Swedish ref that didn't see France's handball against us gave a full and frank version of events to Irish commentary legend George Hamilton after being unfortunately seated next to him on a plane a few months later.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:38 (fifteen years ago)

Hm yeah Joe Cole is pretty good and maybe deserves a chance in starting line up and certainly at least an opportunity off the bench, but not sure he's a world beater all of a sudden.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:38 (fifteen years ago)

This man mangement thing is a red herring I think, England didn't exactly cover themselves in glory under Sven and Schteve and it's madness to imagine England would suddenly relax and play better if Capello starting talking about Lamps and Wazza.

Heskey was very good against the USA and awful against Algeria. I would start with Defoe, Rooney AND Joe Cole against Slovenia, Defoe at least looked like he had some desire and attacking threat when he came on whilst Rooney has been the biggest disappointment of the World Cup. Not sure whether playing him as a lone striker is going to change much.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:39 (fifteen years ago)

hearing rumours crouchy snuck into SWP's room and entered prestige mode on his MW2 account

stofu (cozen), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:40 (fifteen years ago)

xp certainly Capello will lose a lot of his residual backers if he doesn't make fairly big changes to the midfield/attack in the next game I think.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:41 (fifteen years ago)

I can't tell if Capello actually doesn't know what he's doing or if I've just been convinced he doesn't know what he's doing.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:44 (fifteen years ago)

15 trophies at the absolute top level of club management state he probably does know what he's doing.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:45 (fifteen years ago)

he knows what he's doing but the players are all 'idgi'

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:46 (fifteen years ago)

he knows what he's doing but i don't think he was prepared to manage crybaby dicks

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:48 (fifteen years ago)

Nk looking v good here

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:48 (fifteen years ago)

ie he seemed genuinely shocked at how his team have fallen to bits as soon as the WC appeared on the horizon.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:48 (fifteen years ago)

any good profiles of the n.korean team kicking about?

stofu (cozen), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:49 (fifteen years ago)

Love this photo

Not the best of C Ronaldo at this World Cup:

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9956/football006.jpg

James Mitchell, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:49 (fifteen years ago)

This team puts four past Slovenia.

        Crouch       Defoe

<----------------------Rooney ---------->

Cole Lampard Barry

Cole Terry Upson Johnson

James


Rooney with freedom to roam and come deep but covering Johnson the right when not in possession. Johnson to bomb forward at every opportunity. Two Coles to combine on the left - one can cut in and shoot, the other can overlap and cross. Crouch to do what Heskey does plus actually score goals. Barry to sit deep and not try anything clever.

Cptn Stevie: you're cut!

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:50 (fifteen years ago)

(although the same team with Gerrard in place of Rooney would do as well)

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:51 (fifteen years ago)

Would drop Lampard over Stevie on current form.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:51 (fifteen years ago)

cool with that team - would probably want Defoe to drop back a bit (then sub him for Gerrard) alongside Roo

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:52 (fifteen years ago)

Capello has obviously pissed off a lot of players for various reasons,
they wanted to say something about this,
terry told the press in the sense of 'look, we're doing something about it that doesn't just involve mouthing platitudes about more urgency' because that is what he does, and it actually tends to work
press went in to rebel rebel screaming heebiejeebies mode at this unbridled act of plainspeaking,
fa briefed against terry,
press lap it up cos they hate terry a bit more than capello at the moment,
public get knickers in twist cos they hate terry (he so stooopid, even if what he says kind of makes sense),
fa send out lampard to make things better cos he is smart and the press respect him
so do the public, even though they don't really want to,
end result is players have had their say,
manager has pinpointed a potential scapegoat if it all goes wrong (it's not my fault for picking SWP ahead of joe cole and thinking Rob Green was an international goalkeeper!)
and the press and public have had another dose of self-righteous masturbatory everything is dooooomed bollockising

Alternatively, this is quite interesting on man-management and players v Capello (written before the Terry press conference): http://www.morethanmindgames.com/2010/06/19/england-v-algeria-not-fear-but-f-off/

Pete W, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:52 (fifteen years ago)

Really like the look of that side.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:53 (fifteen years ago)

Nobody to screen Johnson is a flaw though

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:54 (fifteen years ago)

this game is good, nk no fear and looking well up for it.

go O and O (Ste), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:56 (fifteen years ago)

srsly it's like there isn't a rly interesting game being played

shd be another thread for england blather

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:56 (fifteen years ago)

Souness OTM:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_5aYwAsKNI

James Mitchell, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:56 (fifteen years ago)

this on Guardian coverage

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Clubs/Club_Home/2010/6/21/1277108959215/Kick-Off--006.jpg
Ronaldo skips past Ri Kwang Chon. Photograph: guardian.co.uk

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:57 (fifteen years ago)

This bit is pertinent:

'The third point relates to the press. When it comes to the hacks, Capello is not Mourinho, or Ferguson, or Wenger, or Clough: he does not seem to see the need to shield his players from the worst of the criticism. The sudden, press-driven intimacy of a World Cup, with every player the subject of remorseless speculation and destabilising criticism, changes the nature of what Capello calls “the group.” It’s no longer something you fight to get into: it’s where you are, inescapably, wagons circled. The dropped – Green, Milner – can’t escape back to their clubs. The underperforming – Rooney – find themselves trapped in the searchlights, ripped by offensive fire. This morning, had Mourinho taken the job, the Special One would be in the most almightly contrived battle with FIFA or the FA, and those searchlights, that fire, would be his and his alone. I say this with reluctance, but I think Capello is using the players as human shields for himself, and David James’ interview, in which England’s fair-minded, intelligent and articulate veteran could scarcely keep the note of contempt out of his voice, shows the result.'

Pete W, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:57 (fifteen years ago)

excellent goal for Portugal there

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:58 (fifteen years ago)

lovely play there. too bad though.

sonderangerbot, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:58 (fifteen years ago)

srsly it's like there isn't a rly interesting game being played

90% of posts about the games during the games are pointless anyway

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:59 (fifteen years ago)

I'm at work and missing NK match so England blather is all I got. Feeling quite ashamed now as I'm one of those people moaning about constant England coverage during matches that don't involve them.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:59 (fifteen years ago)

I say this with reluctance, but I think Capello is using the players as human shields for himself,

bullshit

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:00 (fifteen years ago)

Yes, Graeme Souness is a noted expert on man management issues.

Enough.

'Feeling quite ashamed now as I'm one of those people moaning about constant England coverage during matches that don't involve them.'

Words out of my mouth...

Pete W, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:01 (fifteen years ago)

xp terry press conference mouthrunoff is 100% the opposite at work in fact

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:01 (fifteen years ago)

vuvuzelas doing some kind of multi-part rhythmic thing..?! amazing

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:03 (fifteen years ago)

that tiago pass is one of the best of the tournament so far. all that guy need is a little consistency

sonderangerbot, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:04 (fifteen years ago)

90% of posts about the games during the games are pointless anyway

― mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:59 (52 seconds ago) Bookmark

no they serve a fairly obvious immediate purpose, altho you aptly describe most england-related real talk

I'm at work and missing NK match so England blather is all I got. Feeling quite ashamed now as I'm one of those people moaning about constant England coverage during matches that don't involve them.

― slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:59

nah it's a fair point, but still an argument for separate threads (not something i was in favour of until now)

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:04 (fifteen years ago)

yeah those stabs sounded like sun ra or something. want more xxp

sonderangerbot, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:05 (fifteen years ago)

ok 95%

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:05 (fifteen years ago)

yeah those stabs sounded like sun ra or something. want more xxp

― sonderangerbot, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:05 (21 seconds ago)

ha yeah they've done this a few times

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:07 (fifteen years ago)

why the fuck was ferreira played last time? miguel is twice the player

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:12 (fifteen years ago)

'why the fuck was ferreira played last time? miguel is twice the player'

More defensive option against theoretically more attacking Ivory Coast team?

Pete W, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:18 (fifteen years ago)

can you do picture-in-picture for wimbledon/WC on the red button?

stofu (cozen), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:21 (fifteen years ago)

Well the picture is so small not really feasible

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:22 (fifteen years ago)

they should offer picture-by-picture : /

stofu (cozen), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:24 (fifteen years ago)

That was a great first half.

Don't really rate that morethanmindgames article at all. It's a sniffy pedant's point but I'm not taking seriously the football views of a guy who can't tell apart 2 teams competing in this competition. The piece is very much on the side of the poor abused players, and while their is something in the analysis of the sadistic relationship between team and press/public, he seems reluctant to accept that a team member has any responsibility to follow the instructions of a team manager. Plus the "Cowardly Capello hangs his players out to dry" thing is o_O.

The problem re: England management is that the England manager has almost none of the sanctions against bad player attitude that a club manager has, short of dropping them. That's obviously a much higher-risk strategy than at a club in a league where fans, to an extent, have more patience - say at least over 10 games rather than 1.

imo any player who tries to pick the team via the media is out of order and personally I'd drop them but hey waaaah let's not be beastly to our international class superstars, it's just misguided fan rivalry obv.

Smokey Maicon (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:24 (fifteen years ago)

More defensive option against theoretically more attacking Ivory Coast team?

― Pete W, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:18 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

just cuz a full-back is attack-minded, doesn't necessarily mean they're lacking in defence

certainly not in miguel's case

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:28 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, terrific half and I haven't found the "gulf in quality" quite as wide as BBC panel seems to.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:28 (fifteen years ago)

Consider the source

Smokey Maicon (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:32 (fifteen years ago)

the intelligence of tv ppl roughly correlate to the use of teams' actual names rather than 'the french, 'the brazilians' etc

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:35 (fifteen years ago)

*correlates*

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:35 (fifteen years ago)

kinda invites cliché

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:37 (fifteen years ago)

When a Soccer Star Falls, It May Be Great Acting
By JEFFREY MARCUS

Much of the flailing is little more than diving to the turf in an effort to dupe the referee into calling a foul.

caek, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:41 (fifteen years ago)

lol nyt subs

caek, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:42 (fifteen years ago)

Beautifully constructed goal

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:42 (fifteen years ago)

Beautiful. Portugal have really pleased me here.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:42 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, man. That is like the ideal form of a goal.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:43 (fifteen years ago)

I think that makes him the best Portuguese centre-forward ever

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

And another one! All good goals as well almost up there with last night.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

They're just tearing North Korea apart now.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:46 (fifteen years ago)

lol the "gulf in class" now apparent.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:47 (fifteen years ago)

5-3 NK come back

stofu (cozen), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:47 (fifteen years ago)

they shd try for another goal or two to ensure gd advantange over civ, if necessary

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:48 (fifteen years ago)

Wallop. Dear Leader in tears.

Pete W, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:49 (fifteen years ago)

5-3 NK come back

haha good one!

anatol_merklich, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:49 (fifteen years ago)

those poor sad korea fans in the rain

max, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:49 (fifteen years ago)

Portugal clearly going all out to improve that goal differenc. I was an Ivorian fan I'd be very worried now.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:50 (fifteen years ago)

yeah if that's the guy guarding the gate to the motherland how in the hell is n.korea a hermit state

stofu (cozen), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

Especially if NK get spanked and decide to go the more defensive route of their first game rather than slightly more positive style of today
xpost to mattdc

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:52 (fifteen years ago)

Should have been 5!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:53 (fifteen years ago)

Not really a contest now, but this is beautiful to watch.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:53 (fifteen years ago)

the last brazil/portugal game was the 6-2 thrashing in brasilia iirc

hopefully it's a bit more competitive next time

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:55 (fifteen years ago)

Amazing how unselfish Ronaldo is being today

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:57 (fifteen years ago)

http://ezpicshare.com/images/liqueurcoi.jpg

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:58 (fifteen years ago)

and then he lets fly and hits the bar

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:00 (fifteen years ago)

liquid football

stofu (cozen), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:00 (fifteen years ago)

Fuck! That shot was so nonchalant from Ronaldo

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:00 (fifteen years ago)

those poor sad korea fans in the rain

poor sad Chinese actors

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:03 (fifteen years ago)

tbf having to sit in the rain pretending to be sad has probably made them actually sad by now, so max is correct to show sympathy

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:06 (fifteen years ago)

liedsonned

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:12 (fifteen years ago)

The ball seemed stuck to his head there

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:16 (fifteen years ago)

haha, top skill from Ronaldo

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:16 (fifteen years ago)

kerlon tribute

600 grams of chips for men and 300 grams for ladies (haitch), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

The seal!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

Blimey 7-0

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:18 (fifteen years ago)

Actually was great how he readjusted xp

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:18 (fifteen years ago)

omg

Grisly Addams (WmC), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:18 (fifteen years ago)

the reducer in the kerlon video never gets old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYlqql38XkY

cozen, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:18 (fifteen years ago)

What's the record thrashing in a World Cup? Is it Germany-Saudi Arabia in 2002?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:19 (fifteen years ago)

"the reducer" makes me nostalgic for Big Ron, minus the casual racism of course

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:19 (fifteen years ago)

Poor DPRK players all going to get shot in the head on returning. At least some of them have never actually been there before and will hopefully avoid that.

carpe carp (S-), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:19 (fifteen years ago)

Hungary 10-1 El Salvador in 1986

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:21 (fifteen years ago)

Ah, portugal were great today - and goodbye ivory coast as a bonus

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:23 (fifteen years ago)

portugal's navy on high alert

cozen, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:23 (fifteen years ago)

hungary also stuck 9 without reply past south korea in '54

yugoslavia stuffed zaire by the same score in '74

600 grams of chips for men and 300 grams for ladies (haitch), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:26 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah that's effectively a four-pointer for Portugal. And yet I still can't see them winning the thing.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:26 (fifteen years ago)

god when ronaldo had that touch on his back it was like the soccer globetrotters for a minute

max, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:26 (fifteen years ago)

Hungary 10-1 El Salvador in 19862

fixed (sorry for the pedantry)

Ned Trifle II, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:29 (fifteen years ago)

Good bet for the semis though.

Hungary put eight past, uh, West Germany in 1954 iirc, and Scotland took seven in the face once too

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:30 (fifteen years ago)

Portugal in the rain

hitting seven

water splashing off the top of the crossbar

Ronaldo bouncing the ball off his head

it was quite beautiful

the pinefox, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:37 (fifteen years ago)

it was like the north korea team were facing the firing squad

voodoo sailor (ken c), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

missing this for work related workiness, quite sickened

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

did the commentators pronounce portugal now favourites to win the world cup?

voodoo sailor (ken c), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:41 (fifteen years ago)

no, thankfully

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:42 (fifteen years ago)

Can I do my "North Korea were playing as if their lives depended on it" joke again?

James Mitchell, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:43 (fifteen years ago)


1990 - Goals scored 115 (2.21 per match)
1994 - Goals scored 141 (2.71 per match)
1998 - Goals scored 171 (2.67 per match)
2002 - Goals scored 161 (2.52 per match)
2006 - Goals scored 147 (2.3 per match)

2010 so far - Goals scored 24 (1.6 per match)

^from last week. We are now almost at Italia 90 levels:
Matches played 30
Goals scored 64 (2.13 per match)

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:43 (fifteen years ago)

And we've got a must-win game for Spain coming up as well.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:43 (fifteen years ago)

hoping for chile to curbstomp schweiz....

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:44 (fifteen years ago)

Dammit I have 1 meeting all day and it's over the 2nd half of that game.

Smokey Maicon (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:47 (fifteen years ago)

^^ v much enjoying world-cup themed display names btw

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:48 (fifteen years ago)

Thank you, it's only every 4 years I thought why not?

Smokey Maicon (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:50 (fifteen years ago)

I have a 46" tv to set up today (not my own) - that really would be a profitable use of my time right now I feel. It's just so heavy

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:50 (fifteen years ago)

re display name, trying to come up with one using either Pepe/Pepsi or Ronaldo/Rolando Simpsons references. Failing.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:52 (fifteen years ago)

Fingers crossed for jim-in-glasgow

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)

So against Honduras I wasn't overly aware of their formation. Do they really play 3-3-1-3?

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

si. bielsa's pure crazyness. really fun to watch.

moullet, Monday, 21 June 2010 14:01 (fifteen years ago)

holy fuck graeme mcdowell won the us open? nobody tells me anything.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

You want golf updates here too?

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

when Spain lost to Switzerland I thought there was a scenario in which they could win both of their games and still go out, but now I can't figure it out. Chile hammering Switzerland and Switzerland super-hammering Honduras? I'm sure it was more likely than that.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

no valdivia today! :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/brabuleta_dudu/valdi20092.gif

also a good article on Chile http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/06/08/marcelo-bielsa-chile-world-cup-2010-tactics/

moullet, Monday, 21 June 2010 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

holy fuck graeme mcdowell won the us open? nobody tells me anything.

You claiming him for the Irish nation?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:06 (fifteen years ago)

Switzerland may win games but they're not going to super hammer anyone

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

Why would I need to claim an Irish dude for Ireland tbh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

I thought he was British

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)

First British winner since Tony Jacklin!

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

Mark Bright: "as I say, the highlight for me has just been the poor free kicks and set pieces!!"

the pinefox, Monday, 21 June 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

Nah you've not had a winner since tony jacklin iirc tbh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

Bright highlight

the pinefox, Monday, 21 June 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

He's easy pleased

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

n'kufo is shit

derdiyok > him

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

This game hella scrappy

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

Jesus!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

go on...

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

Hammer hammers and off

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

Bit of a soft sending off. Behrami tying to stop player pulling shirt waves his arms behind him, half catches him on face once, ref plays on, catches him again glancing blow w/forearm/elbow. Off!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

One red card and four yellows in the first 30 mins? Violent game is it?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:34 (fifteen years ago)

today has been mental, i love it.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:34 (fifteen years ago)

well we all know how the swiss feel about foreigners

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:34 (fifteen years ago)

Neutral?

xp

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

Tom D- No not really. One card for pretty minor shirt pulling. One for Suazo in first minute slightly late closing down a clearance but quite innocuous. Can't recall the others but hasn't been bad tempered until now.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

BBC says one for a high foot.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

heh i suppose they don't seem to mind them in other countries, they're not too fond of them when they appear in zurich building mosques afaicr

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

Tom D- No not really.

I didn't expect it would be. One of McCarthy's Clowns* officiating I take it?

*Everly Brothers?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

fuck switzerland but that wasn't a red

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

Chile vs Switzerland not really doing it for anyone I take it?

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

haha at that shirt pulling gif.

go O and O (Ste), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

the action is in SW19 at the moment.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

well i'm sure that it beats the hell out of refusing spurious requests for housing transfers, but unfortunately i'm not really at liberty to just decide to go with my preference on that one.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

How mad ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK!!!! are Chile being this time round? I'm assuming Switzerland aren't really bothering.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

nah it's crap

even a sending off doesn't unduly affect switzerland's tedious 'two banks of four' shit

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

hahahahaha a dr who trailer/spoiler

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

I only caught the last ten mins, but it was all mad attack Attack ATTACK that I could see. I'll be devastated if Switzerland get anything out of this.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

If one of these teams wins
then are Spain likely to finish 2nd
rather than 1st?

the pinefox, Monday, 21 June 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

Oh one of Rafa'a wingers coming on.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

if
Chile beats Switzerland
Spain beats Honduras
Switzerland beat Honduras
Spain beats Chile

= 6 6 6 0 and goes to goal difference

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

Just realised Honduras are in the World Cup

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

& Sturridge has gone to Chelsea

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

2 draws sends Sw. theu' no matter what I think

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

thru

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

Just got harder.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)

Ah, no. Lucky Suisses.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)

Would much prefer Spain-Portugal than Spain-Brazil.

Arsenal should buy Switzerland's defens... ive coach.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

Not sure about that offside. Did the offside player affect the goalie?

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

What a take that was

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

otm Sanchez impressed me in first game also

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:09 (fifteen years ago)

How were Switz lucky? Heard shouting, didn't see a replay

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:09 (fifteen years ago)

Free kick pulled back to edge of box for a shot. As shot taken 3 Chileans offside , 2 wide of the goal, one central to goal about 8 yards out. Shot deflected off Sw def. wrongfooting keeper and into corner of net.Offside given.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)

this ref is a cunt

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

A contested drop ball. Never see those anymore

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

/souness

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

Ha! He's probably the reason.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

lol why was the chile player yellow carded?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

lol what happened now? this is holland-portugal lite.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

This is fucking hopeless

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

Ref has lost the plot completely

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

what happened? I was watching Federer

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

8 yellows and a red and counting

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

my ref is a useless wanker radar went off

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

Basically jostling and acting. As per usual.
xpost

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

pathetic niggly lil things that aren't really worth yellows/reds getting yellows/reds. switz play 5-4-0, chile not able to break them down. how's fed?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

if Switzerland can last up until 67 minutes without conceding, then they will set a new World Cup best for going goalless for 551 minutes.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i saw the red and thought it was a bullshit decision but not seen any of the 2nd half due to wimbledon excitement

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

fed's 3-0 up in the 5th set, sam.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

Fed thru by the skin of his bollocks

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

4-0 final set

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)

Is anyone in the entire country doing any work this afternoon?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)

Someone's getting this stuff out on the airwaves :)

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

North Korean goalkeeper hard at work earlier today

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

Oh this is exciting - if Switzerland can last up until 67 minutes without conceding, then they will set a new World Cup best for going goalless for 551 minutes. However, they are hanging on by a thread as wave after wave of Chile attacks are repelled. Mark Gonzalez jumps high to meet a corner, but his header is wide as he gets tangled with a team-mate at the moment of impact

what does this mean?? i don't understand didn't portugal just scored 7 goals 2 hours ago??

voodoo sailor (ken c), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

A contested drop ball.

This makes up for everything else!! I had no idea refs could do this.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

not sure what portugal has to do w/ it ken?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

It's just weird how exciting today has been, a British golfer wins a US Open for the first time in my lifetime, Federer 2 sets down on opening day at Wimbledon and Portugal scores 7 goals in a world cup game. Trust a boring Swiss side try to bore it all out of us though...

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

The budget is on this week so its not like there is going to be any work to be done anymore :-) xps

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

this ref is a cunt

― lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 16:16 (10 minutes ago)

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

xxxxxpost Swiss never conceded a goal in the 2006 WC and so far haven't this tournament.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

Hmmph when McDowell gets pissed up to celebrate and gets into a fight he'll be irish again p sharpish imo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

oh right so cleansheets, not goalless! (they scored vs spain!)

voodoo sailor (ken c), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

10 man Switzerland break the all time clean sheet record! Come on Herman where's your enthusiasm for the defensive side of the beautiful game?

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

I can't comment on the cards themselves as I'm not watching the game but to me a WC is obliged to have at least one match with a preposterous amount of cards and/or a truly comical refereeing display

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

On the plus side there is a player called Waldo Ponce

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

a British golfer wins a US Open for the first time in my lifetime

Murray for Wimbledon!

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

I really hope Jim has that dudes name on the back of his Chile top

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

Britain might win the World Cup for the first time since 1966 too

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

ref in not giving a yellow card shocker.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

I dunno, this game is a strangely enjoyable farce.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! FUCK THAT RECORD!

lol rafa winger!

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

Goal

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

gooooaaaaaalllllllllllll

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

Liverpool reject to the rescue!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

finally!!!!!

moullet, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

ha, and he's well offside!

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

hands up who thought that header wasnt going in?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

goal, and d sturridge to chelsea too

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

i gotta say swiss is amazing tho

moullet, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

Spain-Brazil then?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

XD

gonzalez is a good player btw

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

they clearly lost all motivation once they took italy's 'most boring bastards' award.

Waldo? Ponce. (spaghetti), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

good chance the group is decided on gd now....

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

switzerland-brazil

just sayin'

moullet, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

moullet, you saying spain won't qualify?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

Greece left to fly the boring bastard flag for rest of competition

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

england arent out yet tom!

Waldo? Ponce. (spaghetti), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

Gonzalez is Sarf Ifrikin apparently

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

shite != boring, in fairness to britain

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

I love - and yet am just smh disappointed - at how the crowd picking cameras have replaced attractive ladies in little clothing of their nations colours with mental fat dudes in silly hats.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

FFS commentator guy calling Chile "naive" 'cos they y'know try to score goals and stuff

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

Greece left to fly the boring bastard flag for rest of competition

Until tomorrow night you mean?

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

si.

chile will win or draw against spain in a 5-4 or 4-4 game.

switz win over honduras, 1-0 w/ a goal @ 93'

moullet, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

Gah, bad time to go run that errand :(

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

lol wtf ref giving a free kick to chile for a swiss player falling over? (falling over != diving)

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

Ooh, almost the unluckiest of headers, that goal was

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

I like that goal diff > head to head. I think it brings more uncertainties into the final group games.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

That dude makes Emile Heskey look like Fabiano.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

Chile, buma-ye

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

Oh ffs

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

Switzerland had better not break down these five banks of two

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

FFS THIS DUDES FINISHING

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL HOW DO YOU MISS THAT?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

Thank Christ!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

This is torture

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

this game is such a farce.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

Chile are playing like Portugal right up to the final ball, every single fucking time

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

so is that 10 yellows?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

I make it 9 plus a red

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

valdiveia

cozen, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

Ridiculous

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

Some how that ended up the most entertaining game I've seen so far.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

NOW he passes it. Thank god for that.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

Spain-Honduras got a lot to live up to.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

Switzerland need almost nothing against Honduras to go through. Even if Spain win big now, 1-0 might still be enough. Chile needed to notch up a score there while they could.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

It's not on head-to-heads though, is it? Spain are much more likely to rack up a big gd.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 June 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

Switzerland need almost nothing against Honduras to go through. Even if Spain win big now, 1-0 might still be enough. Chile needed to notch up a score there while they could.

How does this work? If Switzerland beat Honduras 1-0 and Spain win their remaining two games comfortably then it's Spain that are through. Spain may have lost one game but they have it in them to absolutely pound a depleted Honduran side.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

It could well come down to Chile-Swiss gd with all on six points though. If Spain put two past Chile then Chile are going out

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

I think Honduras will get a draw vs Switzerland.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

If all three end up on six points then Switzerland at least match Chile on goal difference

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

Honduras-Switz draw would be nice. Really want Spain and Chile to be the ones going through.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

would be nice to see Spain let Chile survive with a 2-1 or some such that will put Chile through even after Switzerland's inevitable 1-0 v Honduras. Keep the South American dream alive.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Monday, 21 June 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

as do Spain

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

Introducing the Devuvuzelator.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 June 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

http://static.latercera.com/20100621/977699.jpg

moullet, Monday, 21 June 2010 16:48 (fifteen years ago)

We finally got the goal and broke Switzerland's shutout. Nice. OTOH No Carmona and Fernandez against Spain could prove crucial, in this group where so much is still up in the air.

collardio gelatinous, Monday, 21 June 2010 17:11 (fifteen years ago)

?

no hablo

flapjackin (gbx), Monday, 21 June 2010 17:13 (fifteen years ago)

You mean for the headline? It reads roughly: "Chile defeats Switzerland, matching the feat of the 3 best of the Cup: With Mark Gonzales's goal, the Selection gets 6 points, joining Argentina, Holland and Brazil"

collardio gelatinous, Monday, 21 June 2010 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

(...conveniently ignoring the fact that Chile has yet to clinch...)

collardio gelatinous, Monday, 21 June 2010 17:21 (fifteen years ago)

ah so

flapjackin (gbx), Monday, 21 June 2010 17:23 (fifteen years ago)

so what's the cw on today's hon v spa game? worth me putting off chores to go watch at the bar? my day off tbh

flapjackin (gbx), Monday, 21 June 2010 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

noob questions

always worth putting off chores to watch football

cozen, Monday, 21 June 2010 17:25 (fifteen years ago)

Just watched the highlights of Swi-Chi and love the bit where the (short) ref is trying to see out of the mass of Chileans surrounding him so he can send the Swiss guy off.

BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Monday, 21 June 2010 17:25 (fifteen years ago)

also somewhat contrite about getting all cap'n save a keita yesterday. kakas elbow didn't look so cheeky when I saw the replay. still rooting for IC tho---they are the African team with the best hopes, no?

or do Algeria and s Africa have better chances? have not been followng closely and figured ilx would be easier than googling

flapjackin (gbx), Monday, 21 June 2010 17:26 (fifteen years ago)

would say go to bar but after last Friday when I went to watch the 2nd half of Eng match I dunno.

guy sits and down and immediately says "Soccer is so boring" and then went on about the UN. ruined everything 4eva

xpost to gbx

Brice Pilaf (brownie), Monday, 21 June 2010 17:28 (fifteen years ago)

and

Brice Pilaf (brownie), Monday, 21 June 2010 17:29 (fifteen years ago)

well I'd be going to one of the three "soccer bars" in mpls. so I'm not too worried about jerks hating. more worried about over enthusiastic Midwestern soccer nerds drunkenly trying to Drop Knowledge because did u kno that yes even MN has HARDCORE FOOTIE FANS and now is there time to come out of the closet and btw I am a fan of even the most obscure leagues

dudes can be like talking to someone in a record store, except they're drunk

flapjackin (gbx), Monday, 21 June 2010 17:32 (fifteen years ago)

guy sits and down and immediately says "Soccer is so boring"

Tbf, that wasn't the most exciting game.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Monday, 21 June 2010 17:51 (fifteen years ago)

The African sides have been a disaster here xp. Nigeria and Algeria probably have the best chances in that they could plausibly manage the results they need; Ghana would have to beat Germany, Ivory Coast score eight against North Korea; South Africa need a miracle; and Cameroon are out already. Bizarrely, Cameroon were probably the best of the six but their coach killed them off in the first game.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 17:51 (fifteen years ago)

^^^

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Monday, 21 June 2010 17:52 (fifteen years ago)

aw bummer :(

flapjackin (gbx), Monday, 21 June 2010 17:53 (fifteen years ago)

So far, it's been S. American dominance.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Monday, 21 June 2010 17:54 (fifteen years ago)

I only listened to Alan Davies on 5 Live to hear Eboue (skip to 36 minutes in). Sounds like Arsene's goalkeeping problem is solved.

James Mitchell, Monday, 21 June 2010 17:55 (fifteen years ago)

The African sides have been a disaster here xp. Nigeria and Algeria probably have the best chances in that they could plausibly manage the results they need; Ghana would have to beat Germany, Ivory Coast score eight against North Korea; South Africa need a miracle; and Cameroon are out already. Bizarrely, Cameroon were probably the best of the six but their coach killed them off in the first game.

― Ismael Klata, Monday, June 21, 2010 1:51 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Nigeria need to beat S Korea by 2 goals and have Greece lose to Argentina, while Ghana could go through even if they lose to Germany

mizzell, Monday, 21 June 2010 17:59 (fifteen years ago)

French coach Raymond Domenech says it is a possibility that some of his players will not want to play in their final World Cup game against South Africa tomorrow.

Ding ding ding.

I've just heard Fabio Capellpo say on ITV that John Terry made "a big mistake" with some of what he said at yesterday's press conference.

DING DING DING.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 18:17 (fifteen years ago)

That interview was fun. It was great how he was quite specific that Terry made two 'big mistakes' - talking to the press at all, and naming individual players. He won't drop him though - he said that 'out of big mistakes can come a big performance' i.e. Big pressure on Brave John Terry.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

So Torres + Villa, but no Navas? Correct?

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 18:26 (fifteen years ago)

Torres looked in horrible touch when he came on against Switzerland

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

Oh now I see Navas. Torres well off the pace against Sw. I thought.

xpost

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

This surface seems faster than the one in Spain's first game. Should be able to zip it about a bit better.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 18:35 (fifteen years ago)

What is up w/ Casillas coming out feet first?

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

Wow!!!!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

awesome goal

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 21 June 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

haha was just typing how i thought spain was struggling, but nevermind

go O and O (Ste), Monday, 21 June 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

Ahoy!

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

well that was quite good.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Monday, 21 June 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

villa's so great

nice of drury to describe barcelona as spain's biggest team

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:49 (fifteen years ago)

naturally spain could use a portuguese level thrashing here for gd

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

definitely the second best soulpatched guy in the world, behind Springsteen.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Monday, 21 June 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d8/Mcbain-mendoza.JPG

go O and O (Ste), Monday, 21 June 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

drury prob the least bad commentator these days

tyldesley = lol
pearce = miserable twat
mowbray = cunt

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

torres all over the place but he needs the game time

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

Shocker!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

who is the co-commentator on itv now? i like him

go O and O (Ste), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

Jim Beglin

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

If Spain go out on gd they're going to kick themselves.....or Torres.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

yeah jim beglin is easily patronized but he's alright imo

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

lol delayed falling-over reaction from Honduran dude

ailsa, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

It was like "wait he actually touched my face, he could get sent off for that, guess I'll go down."

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, but his synapses weren't quite firing fast enough to make it look anything other than lol idiot overreaction.

ailsa, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

I changed my mind about Honduras getting a point from Switzerland.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

The good version of Torres would have filled his boots in that half. Villa looking great. If Navas and Torres can get it together in the second half Spain could easily score a few more.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

not gonna lie, i rly rly like this spain team and i'm slightly nervous at their lack of clinicalness

torres can be excused his earlier misses because of his injury layoff, and his skilful evasion of two honduras players suggests he's getting his sharpness back, but they need another two goals at least in the second half

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

clinicalness is apparently a word btw

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

I put money on Torres before the tournament, and I therefore accept full responsibility for him being crap, because me putting money on people makes them dreadful. (my other top scorer bet was on Podolski, so aye, sorry for that game of sitter-and-penalty-missing an' all)

ailsa, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)

lol villa straight slapped that guy

cozen, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, we clocked it at the time (was surprised at the time the commentators didn't, camera was right on them), but it was the slowness of the reactions that brought the lolz. Like, I actually got the sentence "haha, Villa totally slapped him" out before he even decided to clutch his face, the camera panned over to the corner about to be taken, and then he'd decided to go lying down.

ailsa, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

well then

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

brilliant

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

Easy as you like

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

Villa's on fire!

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

*checks betting slip* bah, no, I definitely picked Torres. I R FULE.

ailsa, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

ewwww bloody mouth

go O and O (Ste), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

Pique kicked in the head AGAIN!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

just got home. honduras are basically rubbish no?

sonderangerbot, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

lol they just stuffed his mouth full of toilet paper

sonderangerbot, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

*checks betting slip* bah, no, I definitely picked Torres. I R FULE.

― ailsa, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:39 (3 minutes ago)

for golden boot?

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

aye.

ailsa, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

cuz i wouldn't be surprised if torres scores tonight but overall it's probably between higuain, fabiano and villa

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

I know, I expected him to stay fit. Elementary mistake of believing Premiership hype when drunk in bookies (this was pre-tournament kick off)

ailsa, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

Want Spain to go Chile style all out attack and replace Busquets with Pedro for last 30 mins.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

I had milito for golden boot but he's not started yet : /

cozen, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

yeah torres has like a 1 in 3 for spain and villa almost 2 in 3

they're both essential if spain are to play at their best though

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

not on a bet obv, just on a prediction

cozen, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

Onimo to thread

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

ah clumsy foul

go O and O (Ste), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

Villa for the hat trick or Torres for confidence?

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

will score

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

HAHAHAHa

go O and O (Ste), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

D'oh!

ailsa, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

Doh!!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

take your time!

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

shite and u no u r.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

*hangs head* 0/1 bows to onimo

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/David_Villa_Welcome_%28cropped%29.jpg

saving his best for next season innit

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

that was for his hatrick too, daammn.

have spain down for winning with 3 goals though, plenty of time. just no more than that pleese

go O and O (Ste), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

Nice penalty fella.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

have spain down for winning with 3 goals though, plenty of time. just no more than that pleese

― go O and O (Ste), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:50 (59 seconds ago) Bookmark

you might be in luck

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

So 1 more goal and any win vs Chile sends Spain thru' yeah?

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

TMFD

cozen, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

yeah xp

this is kinda infuriating

the gulf in class is huge but spain aren't capitalizing

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

akshly if it stays 2-0 and spain win vs chile they're through

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

navas (who's been shite) dived for that imo. there was contact but it had ended well before navas threw his leg behind him and hit the deck

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

I wish I had any kind of faith in Honduras getting a result against Sw. 'cos I really want both Spain and Chile to go through.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

the prospect of spain vs brazil is just... hummina hummina

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

navas is a great la liga player but obv something of a neurotic

if spain insist on a 4-3-3 (they probably won't) then pedrito is probably a surer choice for the right side

his finishing is super clinical and he's a proven 'big game player'

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

navas looked the part against switzerland

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

the prospect of spain vs brazil is just... hummina hummina

Bielsa agrees.

collardio gelatinous, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

<3 all the palacioses tbh

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

I had to pause the game for 10 minutes so I was late to the penalty. I'd decided I was voting MISS no matter what for the next pen but with the way Villa was playing I decided he would score so I'll own up to being 3/4 now.

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

they're brothers, no?

collardio gelatinous, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

Chile should be absolutely kicking themselves for being so wasteful today - one more goal would've given them such a useful cushion. Never understand why teams don't think even just a little bit ahead.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

Not sure it was a cognitive issue

collardio gelatinous, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

come on third goal!

go O and O (Ste), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

I mean srsly Ismael, where did you see Chile back off on the attack?

collardio gelatinous, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)

ffs Navas can you not just cross the fucking ball first time?

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

It genuinely was like watching Arsenal in the last 20 mins

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

^^

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

harsh bit fair

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

*but*

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

lol Adrian "we apologise for the onesideness of that game, it was due to circumstances beyond our control"

ailsa, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

oh it was maddening xxps

collardio gelatinous, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

esp b/c against 10 guys

collardio gelatinous, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

Bah I guess not, but once they scored they seemed to change from cutting through them to taking potshots, and it was a little the same v Honduras.

Can't actually decide who's most likely to go through here. Am hoping switzerland's inherent dullness keeps them from scoring next time.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

lol Adrian "we apologise for the onesideness of that game, it was due to circumstances beyond our control"

― ailsa, Monday, 21 June 2010 21:21 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Hated that tbh

slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

Spain good but surely Villa should have been dismissed so no 2nd goal

the pinefox, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

Spain are the best team I've seen so far (but I'll confess that I haven't seen Argentina yet and slept through most of the Holland game on Saturday).

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

He's spent half the tournament apologising for his employers being crap, was a better post-match intro than any pishy Lineker pun that we'd have had to endure on the other side. You take lolz where you can get them with this mob.

xposts

ailsa, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

chiles is alright imho

much better than the vile lineker quickly paraphrasing the previous commenter's (usually banal) observations before concern trolling the next unfortunate recipient of his dripfed inanities

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

Bah I guess not, but once they scored they seemed to change from cutting through them to taking potshots, and it was a little the same v Honduras.

I see your point. I just thought they were exhausted by that point, and couldn't muster up the same bursts of speed.

collardio gelatinous, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

never liked Chiles as others do but he's really been relatively OK in this tournament - to be honest, no worse than Lineker

the pinefox, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

spaniards have got to still be feeling a bit hairy

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)

Chiles >>> Murray >>>>>>>>>>> Lineker

This tournament at least.

ailsa, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)

You're probably right xp - I get annoyed to see them so celebratory though when they're actually in a horribly awkward position. Could easily be eliminated having been the best team in the group.

(not actually sure how likely that is tbh - could as well see them beating Spain, or Switzerland coming unstuck. I do wish Spain had played someone else first.)

Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

football's a weird game, it's still totally possible though unlikely

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

Not been watching much of this and even less on the beeb but Linekar and Shearer punditing on the district 6 removals was one of the much cringeworthy bits of TV I've seen in a while.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

You missed Vinnie Jones' exposé of the legacy of Pol Pot?

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)

I get annoyed to see them so celebratory though when they're actually in a horribly awkward position.

I think the Chilean media goes ga-ga over these things (whoopee look we have 6 points just like Argentina, Holland and Brazil), but that comes from decades of WC failure (when not outright exclusion). Bielsa OTOH is pretty sober about the whole thing, and I get the sense the players themselves are pretty clear-eyed about where they stand as well.

collardio gelatinous, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)

yeah just looked at the figures, didn't appreciate before how precarious everyone's position in that group is as it stands

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

fuck switzerland 4eva if they qualify at chile's expense

there is of course something to be said for their parsimony and organization but rly, it's not ~that~ difficult to set up a team to defend at all costs

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 June 2010 22:09 (fifteen years ago)

Spain look excellent but I think if you can stop them from playing they are beatable, Brazil to beat them in the final (or whenever they end up meeting).

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 21 June 2010 22:11 (fifteen years ago)

next round possibly

put your Villa on this one (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 22:37 (fifteen years ago)

Brazil look excellent at the back, sure, but I can see Spain dominating midfield as the likes of Kaka look to be easier to neutralize. And Robinho I am definitely not convinced about in the latter stages.

I think the European teams will do better than '02. Definitely see more involvement from them than an average German team stumbling to the final. Still too early to tell as to who will win this.

Still hoping for a completely unexpected surprise package: hopefully one of the South American minnows will come up good in the latter stages. xp

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 June 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

http://i49.tinypic.com/1sji1c.jpg

156, Monday, 21 June 2010 22:58 (fifteen years ago)

hahaha shit wait I didn't realise how anything but a Spanish win will probably send them out!!!

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Monday, 21 June 2010 23:00 (fifteen years ago)

Just in case any other US-based people are having trouble watching games, Univision's website is streaming them all.

admrl, Monday, 21 June 2010 23:05 (fifteen years ago)

Can quite easily see Chile going out just because Paredes couldn't finish any of his chances. Although otoh qualifying second from the group means facing Brazil in the second round. So essentially the only possible way through past the second round is to draw with Spain on Friday - undoubtedly a hard task but not compared to beating Brazil - and finish top of the group; they would then have to face Portugal iirc - again incredibly daunting, but one can dream.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Monday, 21 June 2010 23:37 (fifteen years ago)

as long as they put in a decent performance on friday they can hold feel satisfied with their efforts. Spain losing against Switzerland was completely unforeseeable and has given them a much tougher job. And unfortunately i do not see Honduras getting anything from their last game. They are perhaps the worst team in the competition.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Monday, 21 June 2010 23:39 (fifteen years ago)

hold feel?

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Monday, 21 June 2010 23:40 (fifteen years ago)

was i perhaps going to write "hold their heads up high?" and then reconsidered? what a cliche that would have been.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Monday, 21 June 2010 23:40 (fifteen years ago)

also: again the end of the chilean national anthem was cut; this time having the unfortunate side-effect that the Chilean fans were still singing as the Swiss anthem began, making them look like rude bastards.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Monday, 21 June 2010 23:42 (fifteen years ago)

Capello: "BIG MISTAKE"

has this already been covered?

I liked the absoluteness of it.

the pinefox, Monday, 21 June 2010 23:52 (fifteen years ago)

john terry clearly thinks hes still captain and not Gerrard. Wonder what Stevie G thinks about it all.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 21 June 2010 23:54 (fifteen years ago)

Terry is undroppable though and he knows it, fabio knows it too.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 21 June 2010 23:55 (fifteen years ago)

And if Cole is selected then it looks like Terry picks the team not Fabio. If he doesn't pick Cole then everyone else gets mad at him. No matter what happens I get the feeling Capello will resign after the cup.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 00:11 (fifteen years ago)

Ray Hudson on Greece vs. Argentina:

"Greek mythology gave us the Hydra ... a nine-headed monster, and that's what the Greeks are gonna be up against."

"Wonderful Zeus is gonna be in the shape of Lionel Messi. They'll fight like the 300, but there'll not be any containing Leo and the boys."

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 03:53 (fifteen years ago)

<3

156, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 06:10 (fifteen years ago)

I need to listen to this Ray Hudson chappie. He sounds like Sid Waddell.

ailsa, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 07:03 (fifteen years ago)

Some of the best Hudson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyEls-EqdOY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS6Np-g_h5w

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 07:25 (fifteen years ago)

The Sun have started taking the piss out of Capello's accent = beginning of the end.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 08:32 (fifteen years ago)

Or this:

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9514/capelloturnip.jpg

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 08:36 (fifteen years ago)

Oliver Bierhoff, the former Germany striker who is now the team's general manager, wanted to have a reproduction of Nelson Mandela's Robben Island cell built in the team's hotel. "It was to remind the players when they go through difficult times or if they are homesick of the conditions Mandela experienced," said Bierhoff. The idea was scrapped for "a number of reasons".

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:09 (fifteen years ago)

So North Korean TV reportedly showed the Brazil game 12hrs after the final whistle, and then they showed the Portugal match live. Oh dear.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:09 (fifteen years ago)

Haha at these last three posts. I hope NKTV were running some kind of visual equivalent of those vuvuzela filters

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:12 (fifteen years ago)

lolivier bierhoff

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:13 (fifteen years ago)

idg why the delay on the brazil game tbh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:16 (fifteen years ago)

So what is the ilx plan for 3rd round matches to watch-

France/SA v. Uruguay/Mexico =
Argentina/Greece v. Nigeria/SK =
USA/Algeria v. England/Slo =
Oz/Serbia v. Germany/Ghana =
David Cameroon/Dutch v. Denmark/Japan =
Paraguay/NZ v. Italy/Slovakia =
Chile/Spain v. Swiss/Honduras =
Brazil/Portugal v. DPRK/Eboue =

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:17 (fifteen years ago)

personally thinking-

France/SA v. Uruguay/Mexico = fra/sa
Argentina/Greece v. Nigeria/SK = nig/sk
USA/Algeria v. England/Slo = eng/slol
Oz/Serbia v. Germany/Ghana = 2gs
David Cameroon/Dutch v. Denmark/Japan = den/jap
Paraguay/NZ v. Italy/Slovakia = italol
Chile/Spain v. Swiss/Honduras = chil spa
Brazil/Portugal v. DPRK/Eboue = dprk/eboue

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:19 (fifteen years ago)

i'm pretty sad that france has such an easy match up after all the hilarious turmoil, but on the other hand it would be doubly hilarious if they somehow lost/drew against SA -- and i guess if they had already played & beat SA all this wouldn't have happened

i'll prob be watching mexico anyhow

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:19 (fifteen years ago)

France, South Korea, flip between the two but mostly England, Germany, Denmark, Italol, Chile, might take an hour off

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:20 (fifteen years ago)

(Might be making this up but) Wasn't Rooney in shit form a couple of seasons back and he stopped shaving until he scored a goal? Maybe this "Back the Beard" nonsense has put him into a playing shit mindset.

James Cordon may cost England the World Cup! Shave now!

put your Villa on this one (onimo), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:20 (fifteen years ago)

aside from US (or england), think germany/ghana is the big must-see there

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:21 (fifteen years ago)

jordan i have to say i love yr name. just when you think wff sign ins are beat...

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:27 (fifteen years ago)

Nigeria/SK and especially Japan/Denmark are easy-to-overlook potential classics here, with Oz/Serbia as an extreme outside bet

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:32 (fifteen years ago)

Really hoping Capello stays until the bitter end: whether that's the end of his contract or a £10m pay-off.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:33 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah what England need is to be like Liverpool in the dying days of the Rafalution.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:34 (fifteen years ago)

So what is the ilx plan for 3rd round matches to watch

One game on my laptop, the other one on the telly imo.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:35 (fifteen years ago)

^ the truth

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:36 (fifteen years ago)

Don't see the comparison. In his relatively short time as Eng manager Capello has done little wrong.

Eng should have beaten Algeria, whatever the formation or almost whoever he picked from the squad. Joe Cole is only seen as a saviour because we haven't seen him play yet.

Why should Capello resign if the papers are screaming and John Terry has thrown a tantrum? xxp

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:39 (fifteen years ago)

Capello should stay to the bitter end, because having him stand up to those pricks will have a long-term benefit to english football imo.

I see JT doesn't make that beeping noise when he's backing up, then.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:43 (fifteen years ago)

Now you mention it I think it would be of long-term benefit...its hardly a healthy cycle.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 09:54 (fifteen years ago)

Must really stick in your craw to apologise when you've done nothing wrong (in your eyes).

Did the commentator say something yesterday about Deco being dropped (though officially injured) for speaking his mind about Portugal's draw with Ivory Coast? Must be fun for the managers at Chelsea having all those great minds to speak up.

Strange to have a tournament with all this strife at the England, France & South Africa camps without a pip from Holland.

put your Villa on this one (onimo), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 10:07 (fifteen years ago)

Think it's more likely that Capello will just go "fuck this" and take another massive club job where he'll be able to buy players and be successful.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 10:20 (fifteen years ago)

That or he'll come back, drop like 2/3 of the squad, have 1/3 'prove' they are worthy and get promoted back into the squad and win euro 2012

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 10:24 (fifteen years ago)

I think that Capello will stay, that there will be a serious cull of ageing stars, and the process of building an actual functioning team can begin.

Obligatory acknowledgement that yeah yeah they flew in qualifying w/e.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 10:28 (fifteen years ago)

http://i46.tinypic.com/28r0dnl.jpg

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 10:41 (fifteen years ago)

^ two types of people in the world imo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 10:49 (fifteen years ago)

Today:
3pm: France/SA v. Uruguay/Mexico = WORKING, ilx be my eyes
evening: Argentina/Greece v. Nigeria/SK = gone fishing instead

Tomorrow:
3pm: USA/Algeria v. England/Slo = ENGLeesh of course
evening: Oz/Serbia v. Germany/Ghana = Germany maybe

Thurs:
3pm: Paraguay/NZ v. Italy/Slovakia = working again
evening: David Cameroon/Dutch v. Denmark/Japan = gotta be the dutch

Fri:
Chile/Spain v. Swiss/Honduras = chile and spain!
Brazil/Portugal v. DPRK/Eboue = not that it matters much but of course I'll be watching brazil and portugal

go O and O (Ste), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 11:05 (fifteen years ago)

i'll just watch whichever match is on rte

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 11:06 (fifteen years ago)

Today:
3pm: France/SA v. Uruguay/Mexico = WORKING - might manage a sneaky peak at the Fra game to see if they showed up
evening: Argentina/Greece v. Nigeria/SK = Argies

Tomorrow:
3pm: USA/Algeria v. England/Slo = WORKING - sneaky peaks at England, maybe listen to the wireless
evening: Oz/Serbia v. Germany/Ghana = flick between them

Thurs:
3pm: Paraguay/NZ v. Italy/Slovakia = WORKING, not fussed
evening: David Cameroon/Dutch v. Denmark/Japan = Japan

Fri:
Chile/Spain v. Swiss/Honduras = chile and spain!
Brazil/Portugal v. DPRK/Eboue = BraPor

put your Villa on this one (onimo), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 11:16 (fifteen years ago)

enough with the quickfire polls already

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 11:19 (fifteen years ago)

or at least link to them in this thread.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

more quickfire polls tbh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 11:28 (fifteen years ago)

Quickfire World Cup Poll - more quickfire World Cup polls -Y/N?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 11:29 (fifteen years ago)

y

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 11:31 (fifteen years ago)

^ part of plot to force thru separate board for football

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 11:33 (fifteen years ago)

we were promised that we could start all the WC threads we liked, matt is a mod of his word imo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 11:36 (fifteen years ago)

You can't micromanage people's World Cup discussion, it needs to be set free.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 11:40 (fifteen years ago)

I dunno if that's how Capello sees it tbh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 11:41 (fifteen years ago)

I have embraced this new quickfire poll era.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 11:44 (fifteen years ago)

if you're not part of the solution you're part of the pollbloom

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 11:45 (fifteen years ago)

So, Evra dropped. France go
Lloris
Sagna, Gallas, Squillaci,Clichy
Diarra, Diaby, Gourcuff, Ribery
Gignac,Cisse

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:13 (fifteen years ago)

Really hope Cisse does well after missing past World Cup with broken leg.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:14 (fifteen years ago)

Evra dropped

Hooray. Man Utd twat.

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:16 (fifteen years ago)

Still not playing Henry = lol trolling.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:16 (fifteen years ago)

out of deference to the country that deserved & wanted to be there imo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:18 (fifteen years ago)

... I mean, at least Fabregas gets the occasional runabaout for Spain

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:21 (fifteen years ago)

Still not playing Henry = lol trolling.

― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:16 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

I know! 6 players dropped and he still doesn't make it onto the pitch. Henry=Beckham this World Cup.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:23 (fifteen years ago)

del bosque don't want to be too reliant on barcelona players innit

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:24 (fifteen years ago)

Suspicious of players playing for mediocre teams in inferior leagues innit

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:25 (fifteen years ago)

I want France to do well now!

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:26 (fifteen years ago)

If Capello binned Rooney, Lampard, Terry and Gerrard I might even support England...

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:28 (fifteen years ago)

i just want england to play decently well for 90 mins, another awful display from talented footballers would just piss me off.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:29 (fifteen years ago)

catching the ita/nzl highlights now - why did that one italian dude point at his noise after the PK - emphasizing his italian heritage?

crüt it out (dyao), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

er, that should be nose, not noise.

crüt it out (dyao), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

If Capello binned Rooney, Lampard, Terry and Gerrard I might even support England...

I sort of feel the same way. Just get all the Spurs lads out there (a la the Everton players in '86 after the Portugal/Morocco/Robson/Wilkins debacles) and see what happens. I'd be quite excited with a wholesale revamp of the team.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:39 (fifteen years ago)

even as one of dawson's biggest critics and all that during the season, i don't think anyone deserves to be out there ahead of him. would be good for the team.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:40 (fifteen years ago)

why did that one italian dude point at his noise after the PK

"Look, it's not getting bigger. It is a penalty based on truth."

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:48 (fifteen years ago)

games on!

go O and O (Ste), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

Jesus. A 22 Mb animated gif?

http://i48.tinypic.com/105simt.png

StanM, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)

and it's slow too

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)

i never realised that on the bbc world cup page they have a link to itv.com ! aw how nice.

go O and O (Ste), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

I hadn't even noticed that! (xpost)

http://i49.tinypic.com/20k6r9u.png

StanM, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

that gif crashes chrome on os x, which is nice

caek, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

5live - "oh my, a rumbustious challenge there!"

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

yep, missing efan ekoku and lalasanalyis already

caek, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

uruguay/mexico is actually fairly competitive

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

The French FA and the players have just totally fucked this up, surely all Domenech wants is to get the fuck out of this tournament and out of the job as quickly as possible now? What incentive is there for anyone involved to try and actually win the game? I'm not sure professional pride really cuts it.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:19 (fifteen years ago)

there's a good chance uruguay will win so france have a small chance of qualifying....

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

re that gif, i always wondered why i constantly had a progress bar on this page when viewing from work

Guru Meditation (Ste), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

LOL!

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

lol

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

Lloris flap. 1-0 S Africa

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

What I meant to say was:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

best wc ever

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:22 (fifteen years ago)

oh great bang go my predictions for that game already

Guru Meditation (Ste), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

watching both games in separate windows - pretty poor refresh rate on both tho

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

Mexico just hit bar!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

Shot was from about 25 yards!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

lol starting cisse. benzema must be rolling in his grave.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

surely the spread's too much for anyone but uru and mex to go through

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

lol starting cisse. benzema must be rolling in his grave.

― lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:24 (16 seconds ago)

haha

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

oooooooooooh sa killing it here

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

That reverse angle replay on Lloris looking horrified behind him! Wow. A still of that on the back pages tomorrow.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

SA can still qualify if Uruguay win big enough, right?

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

LOLOLOL!

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

wtf

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

red! <3 life.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

djibrlol

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

o m g

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

oh pls relate

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

for what?

and who?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

srs was it gourcuff or sillyfacialhair?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

wtf

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

Ooh lol lol!

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

Gourcuff red card!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

ok that is the worst piece of refereeing I have ever seen

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

gourcuff off with a red card for accidentally elbowing a dude in the air, inexplicable call

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

i've been waiting to see him play for weeks :(

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

When it rains (Quand il pleut...)

StanM, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

For leading with forearm/elbow going up for header. P.harsh imo

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

home ground advantage?

carpe carp (S-), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

got to enjoy this before tomorrow's potential horror show

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

ok that is the worst piece of refereeing I have ever seen

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:28 (52 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://www.nouse.co.uk/wp-content/article_images/body/2009/11/Thierry-Henry-handball2.png

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

i cant believe how bad the refs have been in this world cup. what a fucking joke

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

Karma's a bitch, eh France?

(Bullshit call, imho)

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

ok karma i think they've had enough, go easy now

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

Shame it's not Gallas, that would be the icing on the cake.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

xp!

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

got to enjoy this before tomorrow's all potential horror shows

― mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:29 (10 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

caek should be out there, he's a better ref than most of these jokers.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

SA player "made a quick recovery" according to commentary

well what a fucking surprise

carpe carp (S-), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

fuck this, lol france etc but the referee is a blind cunt

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

We've got it on the big TV but with no sound. What's with all the closeups on Cisse? Was he in tears?

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

xxp would also see everything what with telescopes etc

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

hoyhoy you should probably have struck out the 'potential' for that to work. maybe 'all' and 'horror' too?

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

The way Dos Santos dilly dallies in the box instead of, I don't know, SHOOTING ffs makes me wonder if he should be playing for Arsenal not Spurs.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

Attention mr referee: http://i50.tinypic.com/53liro.gif

StanM, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

is watching france have the worst world cup more fun for ireland than the irish team actually BEING in the world cup and not making it into the knockout round?

max, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

If Gallas isn't sitting in the centre circle rocking back and forward by the final whistle I will be so disappointed.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

ok that is the worst piece of refereeing I have ever seen

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname)

You know if you didn't say that about every decision ever I might believe you.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

the 02 refs were worse

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

watching france have the worst world cup

2002 was pretty bad, too, but in a different way.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

BAFANA BAFANA!

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

OH NOES!

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

this is amazing

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

empela for pres

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

is watching france have the worst world cup more fun for ireland than the irish team actually BEING in the world cup and not making it into the knockout round?

― max, 22 June 2010 14:35 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Well, 'fun' yeah probably. It doesn't make up for being there, but really we'd have strung out three draws and gone out and there wouldn't have been the same lols as we're having with France.

Certainly, it's a p good consolation prize

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

surely the spread's too much for anyone but uru and mex to go through
― too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:25 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

maybe not!

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

wow

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

Zut alors!

scotstvo, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

NOW WHAT!

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

Pauvre France, je crois que je vais vous abandonner pour le match de Mexique contre Uruguay.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

Or maybe I should root for S Africa to score 5 and Mexico/Uruguay to end in draw...

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

2-0 south africa

Guru Meditation (Ste), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

"-0 S Africa and just had one chalked off for offside (rightly)

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

2-0

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

out of sight out of mind, eh Michael?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

WHAT HAPPENED MY STREAM BROKE YOU GUYS ARE TERRIBLE AT LIVE UPDATES. oh okay xpost.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

"You couldn't've written this script this morning" says Burley - true, Ribéry hasn't caught plague yet

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

piss off Burley this was totally conceivable

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

1-0 Uruguay! Suarez

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)

out of sight out of mind, eh Michael?

I think I'll stay and root for SA.

France are a total trainwreck who couldn't advance anyway and it would be a pity for SA if they became the first host nation not to advance.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)

<3 suarez (even tho he's cheaty)

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

what does SA need to happen to advance?

iatee, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

Game on!

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

Think SA one goal behind on gd

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

quite spectacular!

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

the sending off is the first instance of dubious support for the host nation this year right?

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/5305482/ce/us/group-stage-scenarios?cc=5901&ver=us

the rundown for everybody

Grisly Addams (WmC), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

sa need to win 4-0

Guru Meditation (Ste), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

SA need to win 3-0 and for uru to win 2-0

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

So one more for SA and one more for Uruguay or combination sends SA thru'

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

sorry, yeah 4-0 if it stands at 1-0 to urug

Guru Meditation (Ste), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

france should just let em score, it would be a sort of redemption

iatee, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

more than usual it seems this is the World Cup of teams that did well/badly in qualifying now doing the opposite

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

Okay h-time at Uru-Mex

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)

fuck south africa

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

The impossible happening, then France missing a late disputed penalty while Mexico grab a flukey late consolation is possibly the optimum scenario for the second-half

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

need to end the reflexive sentiment for crappy host nations

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

Domenech making that face.

Euler, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

Burley "The French have to chase it" Really Craig do you believe that the French team is sitting there thinking "well down to ten men but we can score 4 or 5 this half and go through"

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

this was already covered but WHY are the floodlights on again?

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

guiding the french plane home in for landing?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

Burley is the least perceptive man in the world. He probably thinks he's got the story of his life if SA can only manage to hang on for the win

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

something to do with TV i imagine, blueski

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

This really is the worst (best) tournament for keeper blunders I can remember. Surely they're not all shit and there's some substance to the round ball complaints this time around?

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

It's worth reflecting on just how badly SA fucked up by letting Mexico back into the first match & gifting them a goal. They were idiots celebrating that draw.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

this was already covered but WHY are the floodlights on again?

Sunset in Bloemfontein in mid-June - about 5:45pm. That's less than an hour from now. You always put the floods on if the game is going close to dusk.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

Man, Suarez's goal is sweet!

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

haha - wondering whats happening at H/T in the french camp

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

Britishes, is Venables a better singer than manager?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

Now? Yes. In his career? Yes

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

No he was a pretty good manager tbh if you ignore Crystal Palace the Goldberg years.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

not sure Venables ever recovered from the Australia slip-up

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

That should have been 3

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

Here comes Henry

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)

Another Henry handball in last minute to deny SA remarkable progress?

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:12 (fifteen years ago)

I'd love to see FIFA live that one down.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

That would be the greatest thing ever xp

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

Guardian's live commentary stream:

"France playing, starting even, with Cissé as central forward in the year 2010 is quite ridiculous," foams Erik Dahibak. "It would be like if England were playing Emile Hes... Oh, wait a minute!"

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

houllier all over this

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

Cisse, Heskey, Kewell - all these supposedly risible ex-Liverpool players who still managed to score in derby matches. Bastards.

ITV stream buffering quite badly now as the whole country tunes in to see WTF is going on.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)

^ none of them exactly having a WC 2010 to remember either

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)

Rodriguez just missed a sitter from about 6 yards for Mexico

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

henry handball!

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

band play all the hits, i bet headbutt comes next

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

just rehearsing for the big one later on

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

Is RayDom going into club management after this?
Vacancy at Anfield?

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

^ none of them exactly having a WC 2010 to remember either

oh I think they'll all remember this one for a long time.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder how Raymond is gonna top his live wedding proposal from last time. stay tuned

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

Is RayDom going into club management after this?
Vacancy at Anfield?

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a better miracle than anything jesus ever did if we make this come true

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder how Raymond is gonna top his live wedding proposal from last time. stay tuned

Dirty Den style divorce paper serving.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

lmao @ baaderonixx

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

malouda is a spoilsport.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

uruguay are coasting

goal for france; this is over now

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

baaaah

Guru Meditation (Ste), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

Henry to equalise now surely

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

Good set-up though by Ribery.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

that's not gonna send france through tho, surely?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

Uruguay should comfortably handle either of S Korea or Greece next round.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

SA must score 3 now. probably won't happen

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

xxp I thought Cozen just meant that there's no way S.Africa can top Mexico in goal difference.

jaymc, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

Uruguay should comfortably handle either of S Korea or Greece next round.

still think Nigeria could squeeze thru

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

Hadn't considered that. I suppose if Arg easily beat Greece than even a one goal victory would be enough for Nigeria.

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

France only need another 4 goals, y'know.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

really would've expected at least one African side to make it thru and i think Nigeria might have a better chance of doing this than Ghana now

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

ahhhhh Govou....

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

Massively looking forward to Germany-Ghana

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

alou diarra as captain? did they pick straws?

late pass on the lol domenech selection policy but where is lassana?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

France only need another 4 goals, y'know.

― Michael Jones, Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:36 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

But Cisse no longer on the pitch to inspire his teammates with tales of Istanbul etc;)

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

Lass pulled out a week before the tournament bcs of some mysterious disease

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

yeah he caught a nasty those of 'fuck this for a game of cowboys' so i hear

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

those = dose

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

Lass Diarra is injured apparently xpost. Alou was my third guess for who the Diarra in the French midfield was (thought Mahmamou was French too).

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

love how Domenech dropped Benzema, Ben Arfa and Nasri for being supposedly trouble-makers...

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

lucky for the french team that those three are untainted by all this imo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

yeah really curious to see who is gonan survive from this watershed. Evra? Ribery?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

Mexico vs Arg in next round would give TV an excuse to show that Maxi Rodriguez goal from 2006 a couple of hundred times which is okay by me.
also Darragh OTM

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

neither evra nor ribery coming out of this with any longterm allies at french fa HQ, surely?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

yeah these guys are seens as the instigators of this shit shitstorm (along with Gallas) but not sure whether Blanc could afford to do w/o them

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

Didn't prevent Jacquet from dropping Cantona tho so who knows

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

dropping cantona maybe not the moral high ground it could have been with zidane available though

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

Andy Townsend: "spitting at a player was seen as the ultimate insult, maybe not shaking hands is the same for managers". I'm pretty certain Andy that spitting on the other manager >>>> not shaking his hand.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

Quel désastre pour la France

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANEBm7Ex1jw

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

spitting on the manager's hand when he proffers it

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

Ya'll know Alou Diarra was at Liverpool right? Never played a game though.

Chris, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

he was? hoilolier or benelol?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

Houlolier

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

Houllier.

Chris, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

wellbeck

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

what was the deal btw Domenech and Parreira there at the end?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)

domenech refused to shake his hand. a class act to the very end.

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

really? haha - fantastic

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

Please can someone with the right software edit a France highlights package with Instant Karma as the soundtrack.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)

God, Domenech is a massive cunt. Refusing to shake the hand of the manager of THE HOST TEAM OF THE WORLD CUP. I had a bit of sympathy before but clearly he's a twat of the highest order.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)

Laughed when I saw Anelka in the Pringles ad. Crouch and Anelka = the new odd couple.

hey it's (jel --), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:38 (fifteen years ago)

enough with the quickfire polls already

wut

156, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)

87 min: France taking the ball into the corner: it seems that, determined to make themselves even more unpopular, they're trying to run the clock down now. In a way, you've got to admire their contrariness.

Did this actually happen? Great stuff if so.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)

Bon débarras, Domenech!

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:45 (fifteen years ago)

maybe this is why capello won't play joe cole
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Clubs/Club_Home/2010/6/22/1277216656949/England-training-001.jpg

mizzell, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:56 (fifteen years ago)

cause he's only four foot two?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:56 (fifteen years ago)

Crouch furthest away yet seemingly unaffected by perspective.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:58 (fifteen years ago)

He has to duck just to get in the shot!

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:58 (fifteen years ago)

can someone give me a brief bulleted list of why france (as a team) is hated aside from things involved in this particular match please

(roxymuzak) ((((d-.-b)))) (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:06 (fifteen years ago)

^genuinely dont know shit about them, not trying to defend them

(roxymuzak) ((((d-.-b)))) (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:06 (fifteen years ago)

- french

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:07 (fifteen years ago)

^^^ this

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:14 (fifteen years ago)

incredible scenes from domenech, never seen anything like that

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

unless he was saying "You want to shake the manager's hand? I'm not the manager, the person who picked that team is out there on the pitch. Shake HIS hand"

not-in-a-good-moment (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:17 (fifteen years ago)

roxy, I am a long-time supporter of the French team and an avid francophile but Domenech's inane managerial style and tactics and the amount of flamboyant self-importance amongst many of the players, especially wrt their form as of late, plus Henry's galling (Gaulling?) double handball to set up Gallas' winning goal in the qualifier against Ireland were too much. I wasn't rooting against them this tournament but, especially after I saw their form in their first game, I wasn't rooting for them.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

i'm not sure how hated they are, but they qualified for the world cup thru cheating in a make-or-break qualifying match. I don't think it's hate so much as amazement at how they have fallen apart in this WC thru in-fighting, ego, weak manager, senior players picking who they want in and out of the team, fights leaked to the press, & playing like they don't care abt the result from an early stage in this competition. xpost

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

still incredible, regardless, xxp

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

The French press is scathing, tbf.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

In 2006 I rooted for France despite Domenech - for the players - and now even they have cracked so they get what they deserve and even their qualifying campaign was very, very poor.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:24 (fifteen years ago)

what was that about even? totally uncalled for imo xp

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

I didn't see it. What did he do? He ostentatiously refused to shake Pereira's hand?

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

ridiculous; I've seen people refuse to shake hands as a result of particularly heated games but even then it's a bit of a gross thing to do but refusing, for whatever reason, to shake the hand of the manager of the WC host just shows domenech up for the demented fool he is

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

ostentatiously is putting it mildly. pereira came and sought him out in his dug out after the match, offered his hand, and domenech withdrew his hand and shook his head then they exchanged some words and domenech still refused to shake hands

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

how horribly negative shall greece be v. argentina

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDrq1SM9f_o

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

In 2006 I was rooting for France, even in years past, but with all the rampant stupidity/petulance/general asshattery just completely boiling over with them and Domenech, there's not a whole lot to love this time around. It's affected their game now, and they just feel like an affront now...

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

what an ass

156, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

how horribly negative shall greece be v. argentina

― quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:30 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

mindnumbingly

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

and UGH that clip. Domenech is a douche of the highest order. What a frikking tool.

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:40 (fifteen years ago)

So Greece just basically banking on the other game finishing tied?

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)

Except Nigeria just scored!

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

this is going to be interesting though- good test to see if argentina can pick the lock

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

Celebration of the tourney there

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:46 (fifteen years ago)

Just realised that a Nigeria win is good for Greece actually, d'oh!

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

lol they've still not mentioned the nigeria goal on the arg broadcast have they?

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:50 (fifteen years ago)

oh ha... only 8mins late

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:50 (fifteen years ago)

lol Mick McCarthy encouraging Arg to play cautiously as well as Greece.

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

who's top ranked to take domenech's place lately? just hoping for
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:HGzz7M9VAW8guM:http://www.wldcup.com/pictures/euro2004/17327.jpg

chupacabras, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

Laurent blanc already has the job.

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

Roxy xps - what the others said, plus other examples of charmlessness by players who aren't all that (e.g. Trezeguet going around the pitch mocking Scotland players while France were hammering them). I don't hate them at all - their world cup history is absolutely amazing, every tournament since 1958 has been either utterly glorious or utter humiliation for them, and noone else has a record remotely like it. You've got to love that.

But this lot deserved to be punished for being sulky, entitled cheats, and it's been beautiful.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

SKorea equaliser!

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:08 (fifteen years ago)

Does that put Korea ahead of Greece?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

Yes!

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

argentina should still beat greece for all that is right and beautiful in this world

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

ReaLly want Korea to go through here, even if Greece and their anti-football are ruining this game. Why can't they just let Argentina tonk them 9-0 like the good lord intended!

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

Loving the ref in the Argentina match chastizing the players like he's reffing a grade school match

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

Greece going out on goals scored would have certain poetic justice to it I guess.

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)

lol i think messi just glanced up to watch his own shot saved on replay

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:16 (fifteen years ago)

Dang messi

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:16 (fifteen years ago)

waiting for aco to turn up and tell us how twee we are for wanting s k to go thru ahead of greece

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

He's had a quiet tournament - keep expecting him to tell us why Papadopoulos breaking Messi's legs would be a victory for football

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

Mick McCarthy wants Tevez on so that he can "have a scrap" with whichever Greek tries to man mark him!

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

Hurrah!

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

SKorea just scored a beauty of a free kick or lolgoalie whichever one you want to call it

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

i call another goalie disaster

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

heh

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

Commentators are calling a goalie disaster - it was a lovely shot curled into the far corner, goalie took a step to his near post and couldn't get back in time. It was a mistake, but still a nice goal (and direct from an on-target free-kick at last!)

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

messi looks suspiciously like a young roman polanski to me and I find this unsettling. also he looks like a secret facist who liked to pick the wings off butterflies as a kid, or cut the whiskers off kittens.

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

ty for info. i knew about that ridiculous handball, but not so much about crappy mgmt (until today)

(roxymuzak) ((((d-.-b)))) (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

i think the most egregious thing is the sense that players are putting their own egos ahead of playing for france, tho the manager is at fault for allowing that also. ppl no doubt feel that ego and a perceived lack of concern for the team over the idividual is bad at club level but unforgivable at international.

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

xp God now I've got the image of Messi knifing Jack Nicholson in the nose in my head.

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

sitter of the tournament?

156, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

that is possibly the worst miss i have ever seen xp

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

You MUST see this miss from Yakubu

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

Yakuba just missed the sitter of all sitters. Literally 2 yards out, open goal.

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

ha xpost

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

Don't let Yakubu take the pen!

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

they are!

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

whoops. No they didn't

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

And now he's off! What a couple of minutes

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

God I'm going blind. Yes they did. He scored btw.

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

This game has become amazing

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

If Nigeria win and Greece go thru' with this 0-0 I'll be gutted.

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

I wish Argentina would get a goal so I could enjoy it properly

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)

but korea is still through at this point?

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)

yep

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

Yes, on goals scored over Greece

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

If Nigeria wins then they go through on # goals

xxxxpost y

willem, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

man I love watching players try to go past another

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

YES!

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

goaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

GET IN!!!!!!!!!!

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

Yes!

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

Can enjoy the end of Nigeria match now.

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

I love how it bounces off the back of the defender at the near post

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

whooooooo!

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

Oba juuuust missed a good chance for Nigeria.

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

awwwwwwwwwwwww.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

Holy Jesus!

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

roxy - picking dhorasoo over one of the 10 best players of the previous decade, robert pires, because of astronomy and then half-arsing their way to the final as if what mystic meg said just happened to be right for the cunt that month.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

lol.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

There we go.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

lol and palermo scores for argentina?

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

ahh that's brilliant :*)

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

I love how excited maradona gets when Argentina score.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

Maradona's previous preference for Palermo over Milito etc VINDICATED.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

Maradona clearly a genius. Just don't let Palermo take a penalty.

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck thought that was in for naija

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

super eagles :x

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)

btw can they say shittu on us tv?

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

strange lack of urgency

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

nigeria have been lacking clinicalness today for sure

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

lol they do say shittu, british accent tho so seems innocuous

156, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

truly ppl called keita are the cunts of this wc cuz nigeria wd have qualified otherwise imo

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

yay congrats SK. Ura get hammered by Uruguay though, I feel.

Isn't 'Arry's court date about now?

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

Pleased for Korea, sad for Nigeria. Delighted for Greece.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

^^^^

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

I meant to ask - what is this studio set up on bbc3?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

Garth Crooks on a street corner?

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

BBC Radio 5 live's Pat Nevin Greece v Argentina

"I'm not anti-Greek but I'm furious at Otto Rehhagel for not having a go at Argentina."

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

lit by torches

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

If only that was more literal.

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)

that Yakubu miss was an unprecedented 1.2 on the Iwelumo scale.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

i'm not anti-yakubu but u fat fucking idiot

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

Seriously, those misses are inexcusable.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

A1 discussion going on between giles, ardiles and souness on rte.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:36 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.rte.ie/sport/worldcup/highlights.html

ususally worth watching

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

re. france - late to the discussions but yeah you guys summed it up pretty well. I think everyone in France would agree on all those points, altho it has to be said that Domenech, as guilty as he is, was mostly just a pawn in an even more disgusting incestuous political farce going on at Federation level (which explained how he unbelievavly got to keep his job after Euro 2008)

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

I'm starting to think that Argentina might actually win dis ting without Messi scoring at all. Cracking finish from the Argentinian Emily Heskey though.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

the racists in france are going to have a field day w/ this and the marginalization of the great white hope (gourcuff)

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)

don't trust argentina at all imo

the defence is still srsly suspect

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)

Argentina-Germany QF would/will be something to see.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:45 (fifteen years ago)

the racists in france are going to have a field day w/ this and the marginalization of the great white hope (gourcuff)

The racists in France will have a field day, anyway.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

The game at last W Cup was pretty good. Until Riquelme was subbed off :(

xp

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)

Look Jurgen. I love you man but not ALL the teams that win the W Cup struggle in the group stages.

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

God BBC now torturing me w/ Shed Seven over goals of WC so far

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

even tho henry etc, i was still sort of supporting france

they ought to be in a top 4 w/ spain, argentina and brazil far above the rest

they tend to fuck up in the most baroque way possible

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

So, tomorrow afternoon between 2pm and 5pm I'll be observing trainee teachers then giving them feedback on how their lessons went. This means not only no pub, not only no TV at home, but no access to a computer or a radio. My only media connection will be my mobile phone. Do I keep my phone on (but on silent) and keep furtively checking for texts from friends and family for updates, or is that too unprofessional? Do I keep my phone off and then at 5pm desperately turn on a computer or radio to catch the final minutes live? Or do I keep my phone off, avoid all computers, and walk home with my fingers in my ears while staring at the floor and then watch a recording of the England match?

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

this demotion of motson to passive-aggresively acommodated alzheimers patient is a miserable fkn sight

they don't trust him to commentate w/out losing it, and lack the conviction to put him out to pasture for good

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

borrow iPhone xp, follow via ILX liveblog

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)

I still have residual love for French national team just 'cos I <3 Zizou sooo fucking much

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)

seriously though, wind up the lesson at 4pm - nobody will be sorry to finish up early

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)

they tend to fuck up in the most baroque way possible

Last time they started really sluggish and then kept pounding out results. This time they looked really sluggish and didn't. The distraction of the Henry handball and the rest of the team disarray obv didn't help.

If the US had a dictator we'd call him coach (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)

France:
94: didn't qualify
98: winners
02: 1st round exit
06: finalists
10: 1st round exit

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)

Nakhchivan depressingly otm re. Motson.

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

Argentina on course to play exactly the same teams in the 2nd round and quarter-final as four years ago

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

NBS The game will be finished by 5pm so you won't catch any of it I don't think. Whenever I've tried to avoid the result of a big game I always feel like I 'sense' the result from the general atmosphere around me although I *know* I obviously can't.

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

in full since 1958:

1958: semis
1962: did not qualify
1966: hilarious first-round exit
1970: did not qualify
1974: did not qualify
1978: hilarious first-round exit
1982: semis
1986: semis
1990: did not qualify
1994: did not qualify
1998: winners
2002: hilarious first-round exit
2006: finalists
2010: hilarious first-round exit

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:05 (fifteen years ago)

1994 was the Israel at home game with Ginola's "criminal" pass right?

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

suspecting some of the greek PLAYERS must have been furious at how Otto didn't try the last 20 mins...

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:15 (fifteen years ago)

Confed point-per-match updates for moullet:

CONMEBOL 2.67
UEFA 1.32
AFC+OFC 0.91
CONCACAF 0.86
CAF 0.79

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

ty

156, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

Man, I just saw the footage of Domenech refusing to shake Pereira's hand and then lecturing him - what a cuntwhistle!

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)

Worth noting that the OFC is actually *raising* the avg for AFC+OFC haha

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:33 (fifteen years ago)

so few concacaf teams, honduras loses and we drooooooop

156, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:35 (fifteen years ago)

Kiwis have a goal in each of their game so far, right?

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:36 (fifteen years ago)

They do; outscored France.

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:36 (fifteen years ago)

oops I didn't even see that was you asking, mr White, no ribbing intended

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:37 (fifteen years ago)

i don't get why Pereira was gripping Domenach's wrist for so long tho, what a persistent dude

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, funny how he grabbed his coat too.

156, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)

No worries, anatol, I can't really defend France and I'm quite happy for the All Whites considering the great footballing history of NZ.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:40 (fifteen years ago)

Pereira was probably trying to figure out why Domenech was being such a giant ass.

xpost

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:40 (fifteen years ago)

Second round looking tasty so far - Uruguay v S Korea and especially Argentina v Mexico should be belters.

Will probably miss tomorrow's England game due to being on a bus to Glastonbury, this might be a mercy.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:44 (fifteen years ago)

pereira should've slapped him villa style

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:45 (fifteen years ago)

32 points for CONCACAF from a possible 36 is amazing - would love them to be the last five teams left in the competition.

btw, the second Spain goal last night was really important - if they do qualify their now slightly-superior goal difference (to Chile) takes them out of the Brazil/Holland quarter of the draw and puts them into the likely Portugal/Paraguay one

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:46 (fifteen years ago)

if only Wenger had been in charge. he still wouldn't shake hands but they'd probably score more goals.

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

for CONMEBOL, duh xp

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:55 (fifteen years ago)

Argentina v Mexico was a cracker last time.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:06 (fifteen years ago)

a lot to live up to. cool that there will definitely be either an Asian team or a South American team that ISN'T the usual two in the quarters tho.

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:07 (fifteen years ago)

lol, just watching ITV highlights just now "any Celtic fan watching won't be too surprisd to see that Samaras put that wide" fuck off dude, we're trying to sell him, plz to highlight the fact he made a good run and got round two defenders, kthanxbye

ailsa, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:18 (fifteen years ago)

samaras is p good imo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

did shearer's thinkpiece on apartheid ever surface on youtube?

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:25 (fifteen years ago)

oh god that bit when Hansen Shearer & Lineker were discussing apartheid

zappi, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:27 (fifteen years ago)

xposts, I like Samaras an' all when he's good (he has massive bouts of disappearing and also seems a bit frightened of the penalty box for a striker), but I'm fairly sure Neil Lennon's booting his arse out the door if anyone wants him.

ailsa, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:31 (fifteen years ago)

This shit is brutal (in French)

http://coupe-du-monde-2010.sport24.com/article/ils-ont-dit--481059

Valentin, the trainer who quit, says the French players even refused to practice in front of S. African kids at one point. WTF?! No wonder the French public thinks they're all a bunch of spoiled twats.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:32 (fifteen years ago)

well wait: were they already refusing to practice and then mgmt was like yo but look we brought all these kids

or were they in the middle of practicing and that at some point noticed a bunch of s african kids and said wth no thanks je refuse to practice in the presence of ~urchins~

flapjackin (gbx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:36 (fifteen years ago)

still douches tho no doubt

flapjackin (gbx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:36 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.nme.com/news/oasis/51606

This is equal parts endearing, hilarious and repulsiveness

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:38 (fifteen years ago)

Well, they weren't going to train out of solidarity w/Anelka but when Valentin pointed out that there were little kids who had been brought expressly to watch them and they shrugged, he ended up quitting. He says the little kids were never told why the French wouldn't get off their bus and he thought it scandalous.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:39 (fifteen years ago)

fuck the lot of em. at least roy keane was in a minority of one

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:41 (fifteen years ago)

ah ok

also xp that is str8 out of the onion

flapjackin (gbx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:41 (fifteen years ago)

messi oasis pledge- awesome

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:42 (fifteen years ago)

at least tevez had the decency to only give him the 1st 2 albums lol
xps

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:42 (fifteen years ago)

messi to man city

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

darragh, I thought Keane was partly right and mostly a complete idiot for what he did but, yeah, a millionaire's strike and disappointing little kids will fix Anelka's departure.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

if North Korea win it i hear our dear leader has promised that the beatles will perform live at the trophy ceremony

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

at least tevez had the decency to only give him the 1st 2 albums lol

Seriously!!

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

xp to MW yeah i just mean in terms of childish, embarrassing public spats re: keane

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

lols on messi's sudden withdrawal of support in the second round matches when he gets a spin of Be Here Now

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

That's it, Argentina must be stopped.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:45 (fifteen years ago)

Am more than happy to turn out for Mexico if that's what it takes.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:47 (fifteen years ago)

speakers blaring out 'Magic Pie' instead of argie national anthem, will put them right off

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:49 (fifteen years ago)

Basically, the analysis at notorious right-wing rag, Le Figaro, is that the players called back onto the squad for '06, like Zidane, Thuram and Makelele flouted his rules and undermined his authority and the FFA were too scared, after reaching the 2006 final to get rid of him.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:58 (fifteen years ago)

Blanc should kick everybody off the team and re-admit whomever only on condition that his authority is respected. Now we'll never know how much of the fault was with Domenech and how much with the players...

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 23:00 (fifteen years ago)

32 points for CONCACAF from a possible 36 is amazing - would love them to be the last five teams left in the competition.

I'm regularly a total eurostan, but I'm starting to tend twds this direction too tbh. I blame the absence of Turkey. Our only hope now is Switzerland. :p

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)

(CONCACAF = CONMEBOL there btw, as original poster pointed out.)

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)

the usual story of 2006 even back then was domenech being sidelined by the senior players, who arranged things among themselves

the team picked itself in those days though!

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 23:03 (fifteen years ago)

Basically, the analysis at notorious right-wing rag, Le Figaro, is that the players called back onto the squad for '06, like Zidane, Thuram and Makelele flouted his rules and undermined his authority and the FFA were too scared, after reaching the 2006 final to get rid of him.

― I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:58 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

trying to work this out in my head- he was too weak with the players to continue effectively, yet was too strong after getting to the final to be sacked, basically?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 23:10 (fifteen years ago)

i guess zidane picked the team but given its success they couldn't fire domenech

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)

see that makes no sense to me

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 23:13 (fifteen years ago)

There was an unsavoury end to proceedings when French coach Raymond Domenech refused to shake hands with Parreira at full-time, leading to an exchange of words between the two.

"I believe it was because I had criticised his team after they qualified [when they controversially beat Ireland in the play-offs to make the finals], but I really don't remember," explained Parreira. "This is what his assistants told me."

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 23:17 (fifteen years ago)

"He expressed himself in what he understood to be words, but they were just random nonrelated phonemes," added Parreira balefully.

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 23:25 (fifteen years ago)

think that sometimes domenech looks a little bit like an iberian martin o'neill

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d110/Ruberama/Serie%20A/Fangirls%20Guide%202007-8/Euros/France/CoachDomenech.jpg
http://www.topnews.in/sports/files/Martin-O%27Neill.gif

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 23:29 (fifteen years ago)

friend insists on eugene levy comparisons, kinda but naaah imo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 23:30 (fifteen years ago)

domenech is what john oliver is going to look like in 20 years

kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 00:30 (fifteen years ago)

he has more eyebrow than most people have hair

max, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 00:39 (fifteen years ago)

hi guyz here's my drunken 4-4-2 from last night, trying to explain formations to a friend
http://i45.tinypic.com/3090bkn.jpg

156, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 01:38 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gJB8O_q2-E&feature=player_embedded

moullet, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 03:32 (fifteen years ago)

While at Manchester I once had a chance to witness a very unusual training session: Ruud van Nistelrooy, Forlán and the head coach were alone in a closed gym. They were practising very specific short ball passes and control in reduced spaces, repeating specific moves time and time again. It later emerged Van Nistelrooy had requested the exercise: he wanted Forlán to teach him this South American art.

moullet, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 04:33 (fifteen years ago)

i am getting nervous!

156, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 04:52 (fifteen years ago)

http://i50.tinypic.com/33bk6sj.jpg

156, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 06:21 (fifteen years ago)

your fullbacks are too deep 156

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 06:45 (fifteen years ago)

thx.
ok gotta sleep so i can get up so we can get this thing going

156, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 06:52 (fifteen years ago)

RIP big man
http://clarenceboddicker.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/domenechpanini.jpg

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 07:05 (fifteen years ago)

marvellous moustache

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 07:06 (fifteen years ago)

Looks like they've done reconstructive surgery on Cantona with Graeme Souness off-cuts.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 07:14 (fifteen years ago)

france flown home in economy

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 07:14 (fifteen years ago)

Anyone ask Domenech about the handshake that wasn't?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 07:34 (fifteen years ago)

yeah and he refused to answer

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 07:45 (fifteen years ago)

Then they asked Wenger and he said he didn't see it.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 07:51 (fifteen years ago)

Then they went to Manchester to ask Daniel sturridge

voodoo sailor (ken c), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 07:58 (fifteen years ago)

Anelka refused to comment until his brother had looked at the financial details.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 08:10 (fifteen years ago)

What are the line-up rumours, if any have emerged from behind Fabio's iron curtain? I will be watching this in a hotel bar in Beijing tonight. Prediction: 1-1. :(

Dr.C, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 08:45 (fifteen years ago)

Joe Cole still cut. Defoe to partner Rooney. Upson starts.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 08:47 (fifteen years ago)

Still can't imagine them not doing this - Slovenia should be ideal fodder for a stuttering England. US position looks more precarious from here.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 08:55 (fifteen years ago)

Is Joe Cole injured or something?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 08:58 (fifteen years ago)

xp How do we know, Onimo? Has Fabio named the team early, or are these rumours?

Upson is shit, but at least better than Carra. Defoe I'm Ok with too.

Dr.C, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 08:59 (fifteen years ago)

Sat at work in my Saints shirt that saw us get relegated to League One then fail to make the play-offs the following season. Not sure who it's hexing, seeing as how I'm being all GO JOZY GO this afternoon.

William Bloody Swygart, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 09:00 (fifteen years ago)

These are rumours being reported as facts in some papers.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 09:03 (fifteen years ago)

good luck usa, good luck uk.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 09:08 (fifteen years ago)

Good luck England you mean, leave the rest of us out of it

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 09:11 (fifteen years ago)

http://imgur.com/r4uj1.jpg

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 09:14 (fifteen years ago)

sorry, reflex action

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 09:15 (fifteen years ago)

Cunning plan to get me to type the words, Good Luck England

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 09:16 (fifteen years ago)

twice

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 09:18 (fifteen years ago)

twice

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 09:18 (fifteen years ago)

It only works if you type it three times

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 09:19 (fifteen years ago)

Looks like they've done reconstructive surgery on Cantona with Graeme Souness off-cuts

Uncannily OTM

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 09:27 (fifteen years ago)

haven't watched england in years but if they do go go through into the serbia/ghana, uruguay/sk draw it's not actually unfeasible that they cld get to the semis, possibly by playing the worst football ever seen (or not seen)

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 09:28 (fifteen years ago)

^ my thoughts exactly nakh. Uruguay should be too good for them, as might Ghana, but if this time they get it right the draw could hardly be kinder

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 09:39 (fifteen years ago)

worst to happen here would be going out to badly drawn lots!

Guru Meditation (Ste), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:13 (fifteen years ago)

Who would actually draw the lots?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:16 (fifteen years ago)

thierry henry, with his HANDS

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:19 (fifteen years ago)

Dan Marino!

Guru Meditation (Ste), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:21 (fifteen years ago)

Mandela!

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:23 (fifteen years ago)

Tony Hayward

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:26 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRkWyzOVpHI

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:26 (fifteen years ago)

What are 'lots' - do they do the long-stick/short-stick thing? When was the last time it happened?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:27 (fifteen years ago)

Balls out of a bag?

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:28 (fifteen years ago)

p sure that domenech is in line for that once he gets home tbh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:29 (fifteen years ago)

Ireland 1990!

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:29 (fifteen years ago)

WIll be wearing them round his neck like an onion seller imo. xp

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:30 (fifteen years ago)

ah that's terrible, resorting to national stereotypes like that

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:30 (fifteen years ago)

partic as the french contingent as a whole have been trying so hard to branch out into acting dutch just for this tournament

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:31 (fifteen years ago)

Ginola to sue Houllier over repeated blame for 1994 WC non-qualification

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:47 (fifteen years ago)

just caught the portugal/north korea highlights and that ronaldo goal where he dribbles it off his back and head - uh, is that normal? lucky touch?

also the first david villa goal was pretty amazing (though I guess soccer purists prefer the ones that come from crosses & well placed passes)

crüt it out (dyao), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:56 (fifteen years ago)

NYT article on FIFA drawing lots:

In 1954 in Rome, a 14-year-old boy named Luigi Franco Gemma drew lots — a ball, actually — to determine whether Turkey or Spain would go to the World Cup.

His father worked at the stadium in Rome that served as the neutral site for their final qualifying match, a playoff tie breaker. But when the teams had tied after 90 minutes, the boy was summoned. Blindfolded, the young Luigi reached into a drum and chose a ball with Turkey’s name on it.

At Italia 90 lots were drawn — actually, balls once again — but this time no one was sent home.

Rather, the Netherlands and Ireland had to pick to determine who had finished second and who was third after they tied their final Group F match, 1-1, in Sicily. That result left both teams with 3 points, 2 goals for and 2 against.

Fifteen minutes after the match, Sepp Blatter, then the FIFA No. 2 man, conducted a ceremony in Rome. He put a slip of paper bearing each teams’ name into each of two orange plastic balls, which he placed in a goldfish bowl. Another two yellow balls were marked 2 and 3 and placed in another goldfish bowl. He then asked one of the blue-uniformed World Cup hostesses to pull a ball from each bowl.

The luck of the Irish in that draw gave them second place, and in the first knockout match they faced Romania, whom they beat on penalties. The unlucky Dutch got the third-place ball and had to face Germany. They lost.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:56 (fifteen years ago)

(Background: in 1986/90/94, it was a 24-team tournament with a knockout round-of-16, so the four best 3rd-place teams went through from the group stage along with the top two).

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:00 (fifteen years ago)

Platini and Blatter drawing lots would be sweet

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:04 (fifteen years ago)

haha, Holland and Spain really are the kings of unfortunate eliminations

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:10 (fifteen years ago)

Am I right in thinking that it's still possible for anyone to qualify from England's group?

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:18 (fifteen years ago)

I have been reading about ye olde World Cups

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_FIFA_World_Cup

Israel qualified through every round because Turkey, Egypt, Indonesia and Sudan refused to play them. FIFA then decided that no team should go to the World Cup without playing someone, so they made them play-off (and lose) against Wales (who had previously failed to qualify).
This remains Wales only appearance in World Cup finals where they managed to get through Hungary's group and narrowly lost a quarter-final 1-0 to eventual winners Brazil.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:20 (fifteen years ago)

dyao, the Ronaldo goal was partly a lucky bounce off of his back and I think partly him knowing exactly what he was doing cuz he's brilliant and a jerk like that.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

Yes, anyone can still qualify - dunno what kind of odds you'd have got on Algeria + Slovenia before the tourney started.

I still think it'll be Eng + USA though, despite what England have done so far.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

only seen on eslo-mo of ronaldo, his facial expression suggests it was lucky

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:23 (fifteen years ago)

the way it bounced off his back and onto his head - looked so rehearsed! but yeah he does look like a jerk, a brilliant one.

crüt it out (dyao), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:25 (fifteen years ago)

James

Johnson Terry Upson Cole

Milner Lampard Barry Gerrard

Rooney Defoe

this it then? zzzz shd've gone w/onimo's maverick pick

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:36 (fifteen years ago)

Was lucky yeah, but the way he readjusted as the ball dropped (without looking at it!) was sweet

Algeria/US can't both go through, but every other combination is still possible

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:36 (fifteen years ago)

James

Johnson Terry Upson Cole

Milner Lampard Barry Gerrard

Rooney Defoe

LOL @ the team that finished 4th, eh?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:39 (fifteen years ago)

Picked on form over the season, Capello's team should be:

Hart

Johnson King (lol injury, Terry replaces) Dawson A Cole
(^lack of any real competition?)

Lennon Huddlestone Johnson

Lampard

Rooney Zamora

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:41 (fifteen years ago)

^ team wouldn't have dropped points so far.

Bench-

James
Brum Centre halves
Cattermole (Is he injured or just not allowed near England talk)
J Cole
Gerrard
Crouch (england form convinces)

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:43 (fifteen years ago)

Picked on form over the season
Bent > Zamora imo

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:44 (fifteen years ago)

So Joe Cole is, like, dead or something?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:44 (fifteen years ago)

Bent on the bench as a lone striker option, sorry.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:45 (fifteen years ago)

!

just got a half day to watch a match involving another country.

<3 boss tbh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 12:43 (fifteen years ago)

How did you convince him you were Algerian anyway?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 12:46 (fifteen years ago)

Right, I'm reluctantly disappearing off into my media vacuum now. When I emerge at 5pm England will already be out of the World Cup / joyously celebrating their progress (delete as appropriate).

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 12:46 (fifteen years ago)

now, or later?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 12:47 (fifteen years ago)

joyously celebrating their progress

More relief than joy I should think.

It's awfully quiet in this thread considering the magnitude of this afternoon for ILx's two most represented nations. Are you all in the pub already?

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 12:50 (fifteen years ago)

it's not even 8am!

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

Is going to bars for breakfast, beer & football something only Scottish people do in the States?

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 12:53 (fifteen years ago)

nah I'm just annoyed cuz I'm at work

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 12:54 (fifteen years ago)

too tense to type

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:00 (fifteen years ago)

all interested parties commuting to glastonbury probably

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:03 (fifteen years ago)

I managed to wangle the afternoon off, just deciding between hibernation in house or going pub to join in the sudden defection of loyalty to Slovenia that will overcome Scotland for the afternoon.

ailsa, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:06 (fifteen years ago)

"I don't like being goalie. I don't enjoy games. I never enjoy playing in games. I enjoy the buildup, and I certainly enjoy afterward, but it's way too intense. I'd like to play out in the midfield, holding midfield, passing to more talented guys."

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:08 (fifteen years ago)

- Tim Howard

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:08 (fifteen years ago)

srsly not gonna be able to see a minute of this >:(

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:09 (fifteen years ago)

do I try vainly to go without knowing the result and watching on espn3 or just getting live updates from you jerks

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:10 (fifteen years ago)

Took the day off, iirc. Sitting home thinking about a nap before I leave for the pub to watch.

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:11 (fifteen years ago)

Wd send you text updates, Ev, but my phone is turned off. Oops.

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:11 (fifteen years ago)

just deciding between hibernation in house or going pub to join in the sudden defection of loyalty to Slovenia that will overcome Scotland for the afternoon

Slovene grannies one and all, I tellsya. I'm also torn between sitting here myself or heading to the pub, a little put off of the latter by the fact that it seems half of the people around here these days are students from England. Bestirts the lot o ya.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:12 (fifteen years ago)

no radio, gbx?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:14 (fifteen years ago)

I'm on call in the hospital! pretty much all of the action will take place while I'm rounding with the new attending. maybe if we get done early I can fuck off to a lounge or something. half of our patients are either Latino or east African, so I can pick up bits and pieces when I go into their rooms, but that's not quite the same

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

http://img.terra.com.br/i/2010/06/20/1576486-4663-atm14.jpg

moullet, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

The thought of THIS England team getting to the quarter or semi final stage after playing as they have been is kinda depressing.

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:19 (fifteen years ago)

xp!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:20 (fifteen years ago)

Does Birsa play on the right for Slovenia? Cos he was class vs the US. If so then Gerrard better help out Ashley Cole more than he did against Algeria.

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:21 (fifteen years ago)

xxxp

he exchanged his pants too?
still looks cool, though

willem, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:22 (fifteen years ago)

Garth Crooks' questions and the tone he phrases them in are truly a sight to behold.

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:32 (fifteen years ago)

http://imgur.com/nt0Ld.jpg

vs

http://imgur.com/rDhn2.jpg

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:33 (fifteen years ago)

seedorf's so smiley, just looking at him cheers me up

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:33 (fifteen years ago)

James

Johnson Terry Upson Cole

Milner Lampard Barry Gerrard

Rooney Defoe

this it then? zzzz shd've gone w/onimo's maverick pick

― too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 12:36 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

is it going to be 4-4-2, though, or the dreaded diamond?

TURN THE FUCKING BEES DOWN (tomofthenest), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:34 (fifteen years ago)

david james is great telly

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:35 (fifteen years ago)

Well I am just about to settle into the hotel bar here in Beijing. Not only is it showing England v Slov, but it has a DARTBOARD! Heaven!

I am watching it with a dutchman (who lives in Glasgow and is a Celtic season ticket supporter), a Sri-Lankan and an English woman. There is NO-ONE else here except the barman, who thinks we are Slovenian.

xp I managed to wangle the afternoon off, just deciding between hibernation in house or going pub

Ailsa - GO PUB! It's never wrong.

Dr.C, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:36 (fifteen years ago)

yeah mixed reports from the BBC: the panel seem to think the diamond, but hodgson says 4-4-2 with gerrard on the left

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:36 (fifteen years ago)

"seedorf's so smiley, just looking at him cheers me up"

^^^

also when he started crying after becoming the first man to win the CL with three clubs <3 for all time

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

James has been so cagey when talking about Capello, what that's all abaht then.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:39 (fifteen years ago)

watching in my living room. too nervous about this game to to watch it with germans.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:39 (fifteen years ago)

at home, cracking a beer

gbx- we can liveblog if it helps

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:39 (fifteen years ago)

<3 Seedorf and Davids for rehabilitating British Edwardian forenames in the late 20th century

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:40 (fifteen years ago)

why's arry sitting in a coffin?

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:42 (fifteen years ago)

bornstein starting

good luck usa

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:42 (fifteen years ago)

yeah mixed reports from the BBC: the panel seem to think the diamond, but hodgson says 4-4-2 with gerrard on the left

it's time for the Christmas Tree

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:43 (fifteen years ago)

re-invert the pyramid

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:44 (fifteen years ago)

dixon threatening suicide if lampard is on the left

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:44 (fifteen years ago)

england are going to piss it in fyi

sonderborg, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:45 (fifteen years ago)

Howard, Cherundolo, Demerit, Bocanegra, Bornstein, Dempsey, Edu, Bradley, Donovan, Altidore, Gomez

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:48 (fifteen years ago)

Excited for Gomez, hoping Jonny B doesn't cause too many facepalms.

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:49 (fifteen years ago)

bornstein starting

good luck usa

― dan m, Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:42 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wtf! why?

mizzell, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:49 (fifteen years ago)

is gooch injured?

mizzell, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:49 (fifteen years ago)

england are going to piss it in fyi

Is this a good or bad thing?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:50 (fifteen years ago)

Cards? Not sure. xp

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:50 (fifteen years ago)

this fucking blessed bullshit

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:51 (fifteen years ago)

I can see them holding Gooch out if he's in yellow trouble + he kind of sucked against Slovenia esp on that first goal.

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:51 (fifteen years ago)

Brian Blessed - thanks for that BBC...

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:51 (fifteen years ago)

do they show the same build-up in scotland?

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:51 (fifteen years ago)

yes. Yes they do.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:52 (fifteen years ago)

USA build up gets Martin Sheen.

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:52 (fifteen years ago)

yes plz liveblog all and sundry

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:52 (fifteen years ago)

predictions anyone?

I'm going for:

England win 2-0
USA to win 2-1

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

do they show the same build-up in scotland?

British Broadcasting Corporation

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

stream getting a bit shaky already. B STRONG BBC.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:54 (fifteen years ago)

always good to be optimistic
xxpost

Zeno, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)

well Gooch was kinda loose last game

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)

not sure about Bocanegra in the middle TBH, liked him pushing up every so often

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:56 (fifteen years ago)

Upson's got a decent voice on him, he can audition for The X Factor when today ruins that footballing career he's been working on.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:56 (fifteen years ago)

bbc stream fucked

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:56 (fifteen years ago)

german tv with five live for me

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

Here we go...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

Mr Veg bought me my very own vuvuzela! Which I proudly used to wake him up this morning :D

Go England! Go US! Go Australia lol.

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

USA gets the flip

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)

really been quite nervous all day today

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)

Eng 2-0 Slovenia
USA 1-0 Algeria

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

my stomach hurts

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:01 (fifteen years ago)

Hodgson pwns Shearer, Dixon, et al with team shape prediction

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:01 (fifteen years ago)

england lining up as a straight 4-4-2?

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2010/6/23/1277301277229/Rio-Ferdinands-TweetPhoto-003.jpg

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

ahhh I need a stream of the usa game

iatee, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

cozen-yeah looks that way

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

If Milner carries on like this he won't even last half an hour this time

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:06 (fifteen years ago)

found one
holy shit

iatee, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:06 (fifteen years ago)

oooft this could be interesting

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:06 (fifteen years ago)

Not been a great start really

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

ooh off the bar for Algeria there

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)

got damn this USA defending is piss-poor

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)

cherundolo just tried to kick the ball and missed it completely

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

barry should be booked already. lol 'defensive' midfielder

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

ok yellow for the algerian rugby player yebda, that'll help

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

cherundolo needs to get his fucking head together

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

long ball england. would be a little better if it worked.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

barry should be booked already. lol 'defensive' midfielder

I thought Johnson was lucky too from what I saw of the first ten minutes. Heard the commentator saying this ref doesn't book Englishmen so that's nice for them.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

"he did just get a little tap"
"could've been a plumber"

Lawro hits a commentating low

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

Clinton should be in at left back imo

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

alan green being really aggressively cynical here.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

lol at Rooney nutmegging the Slovenian defender

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

eng midfield looking a little more composed on the ball

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

the ref is the german ref terry called "disrespectful" in march

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

milner looking good for another 30mins subbing

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

Clinton should be in at left back imo

Our first back President

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

rooney- looks quite fat. srsly

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

donovan not hungry enough, lots of energy elsewhere but it's so loose at this point

love how gomez is firing them at the opposition though

donovan skies it over the bar

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

ahh I need a usa stream again! halp!!

iatee, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

England looks too nervous but at least Rooney is good

Zeno, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)

is he? not convinced myself.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:19 (fifteen years ago)

iatee are u in usa?

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:19 (fifteen years ago)

dude's goota get a strike off there

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:19 (fifteen years ago)

our passing past midfield is really shit, isn't it?

idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

yeah but at work so no espn

iatee, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

Slovenia really should do better with these half-openings

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

FU?CK

idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

Ugh! Offside.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

decent reactions from james as shot deflected through crowded box

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

dempsey looked onside to me

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

epic throw from Handanovic there.

now stream, stop being sticky.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

might try univision? xps

motherfuck

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

That goal looked onside for US to me

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

for or against?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

wow, usa clearly robbed again

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

Whatever stream I'm watching has the USA playing Agleria

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

goal eng

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:22 (fifteen years ago)

defoe!

TURN THE FUCKING BEES DOWN (tomofthenest), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:22 (fifteen years ago)

Long ball pays off!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:22 (fifteen years ago)

defoe from milner cross

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:22 (fifteen years ago)

"this could be quite fun"

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:22 (fifteen years ago)

Milner wakes up

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:22 (fifteen years ago)

Well thank fuck for that.

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:22 (fifteen years ago)

great goal

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:22 (fifteen years ago)

total miracle material

moullet, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:22 (fifteen years ago)

Ah no, great cross

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:22 (fifteen years ago)

I want a Slovenia jersey. All sportsgear should take inspiration from Peanuts.

ô_o (Nicole), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

someone repost that USA spreadsheet about how they can qualify

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

great ball milner

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

great long ball

Zeno, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

we 'workers' need minute by minute on both matches here guys

oh wait goal update cheers

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

"that's what i call a good english goal" -- big graham taylor

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

us need a win wt this stage, right?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

yes

Zeno, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

come on usa!

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

Dempsey stabbed home from 3 yards, was level with last defender but given offside btw
xxxposts

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

Fucking hell, another questionable disallowed goal that may haunt us!!!

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

england's goal' og from defender

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

but defoe's contact was v prob heading in anyway so w/e

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

much more like it

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

lampard blazes left foot volley over, goalie on ground

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

fat frank is shit though

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

tough chance imo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

slovenia defence looking v rattled

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

xp, yeah, just speaking in generalities about lampard

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

glad milner got his eye in

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

Lee Dixon said they were all going home if Eng played 4-4-2 so this could be win win

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

england looks much better after the goal

Zeno, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

good luck usa

http://i50.tinypic.com/33bk6sj.jpg

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

All England right now. Dare I take this for granted and settle down for the afternoon with the US?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

yeah they actually look like a top level football team right now

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

yeah hard to say whether slov or england just realised there's a serious gulf here, but it's starting to show

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

jesus wept

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

england had about 6 chances there

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

great composed play here from eng. goalie just makes good save from gerrard

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

defoe+rooney seems to have their centre backs baffled

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

defoe whacking it hard at goalie from any & everywhere, making a lot happen imo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

bloody England, looking good + spoiling my fun.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

Watching England game in an Irish pub in French Canadia with a group of American frat boys in the next room watching USA on a French feed.

sofatruck, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

PR company upstairs clearly have access to proper TV aerial - they're 15-20sec ahead of our streams down here, so we knew about the goal before we saw it. We've now taken to theatrically mocking their oohs and aahs when we finally see what they've been getting excited about.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

"They're having a nice (k)night" oh FFS...

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

still goals here to had for slov from upson's shakiness

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

slovenian players- most of them in bigger leagues or local/smaller european leagues, btw?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

lol at penalty air in front of slovenia goal cutting up like wembley

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

England 8/1 to win the cup...

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

slovenia = smallest country in terms of population in the world cup iirc

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

you are correct

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

shit header from dempsey, completely whuffed strike from donovan

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

Dempsey just rose well at far post but his header was blocked by Algerian defender

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:34 (fifteen years ago)

thought that was clint?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:34 (fifteen years ago)

slovenian players- most of them in bigger leagues or local/smaller european leagues, btw?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovenia_national_football_team#Current_squad

"Club column is a who's who of Europa League also-rans.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

WHY TWO TOUCHES DEMPSEY????????????????????

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

Being able to hear the chants and crowd noise and sounds from the field is a bit of a revelation. Did most of the vuvuzela blowers get mysteriously injured?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

excellent move from US led to shot from 8 yards saved by keeper

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

god, we'd be down by 5 against a better team by now

iatee, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

US/Alg game very spread already, lot of space

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

fuckin hell usa

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

the sound guys learnd to deal with it probably
xxxpost

Zeno, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

altidore open shot on goal from three feet, he skies it

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

9OMG

iatee, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

Oh Jozy should have done better there

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

altidore looked like a fg kicker

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

rooney- clearly performing at about 70%, get the lad off ffs, it's not really fair on him.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

clinical there from altidore

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

worse than yakubu?

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

Howard tips over long range effort

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

cozen- nothing is worse than Yakubu, but pretty bad

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

definitely not worse than yakubu xp lol

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

wtfffff jozy

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

Roddick is two points away from catching the 2nd half.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

it seems everytime i check my stream the us is missing out on some pretty good clear chances. has it been this one sided so far?

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

good eyes that ref

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

(On my BBC window - probably finished a week ago)

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

England had their 10 minutes of good playing sometime

Zeno, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

algeria making chances on the break, the USA has the upper hand but defense looks shakey mo

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

Lampard is sleeping

Zeno, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

damn ziani is fucking good isn't he - ball is glued to his feet

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

fwiw cobi jones said he'd be ecstatic if USA is level at the half

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

Lampard has slept thru the entire world cup so far

TURN THE FUCKING BEES DOWN (tomofthenest), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0623/soc_g_dafoe1_sy_288.jpg

mizzell, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)

He doesn't really need to wake up till the last sixteen (see also: Holland).

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

rooney arguing with the ref, always good to see

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

how much does lawro get paid that he can unquestioningly upgrade flights to club class

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

ref looking quite erratic here. that elbow on defoe should have been a caution, as should johnson's three (?) tackles in the first five mins. wouldn't be surprised to see the slovenia left back get a second yellow in the 2nd half.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

usa 0-0 algeria at the half

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

should be at least 1 for usa obv

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

Lee Dixon you are breaking your solemn vow. Gerrard is on the left so you should be on your way home. Now!

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)

If the two of them hadn't gone for the same ball earlier, it would have been 2-0, really.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)

That Dempsey offside looks more egregious every time I see it. Not that close a call imo

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

I don't think the Algeria game is gonna end in a tie

iatee, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

ahhhhhhhhhhhh goddamn it they just showed it again that is not offside

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

rooney does look half a stone over, yeah

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

pandemic you mean egregiously incorrect right??

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

yeah

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

Rooney looks jaked, bring him off and have Crouch and Defoe upfront.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

altidore should have put that away.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

rooney will come off if we score again, or maybe for the last ten mins

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)

i'm dying! i need to watch, where can i find a stream online that will WORK!? please :(

juicebox, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)

I think crouch and defoe would be legit in this game

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)

those US chances. Thought Dempsey was off btw

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)

replays show demerit totally missing the ball, leading to that first algerian strike off the bar.. really just "whut?" stuff, i guess it's lucky we haven't given anything up yet tbh

cobi jones also says team USA settles down between minutes 20-40, that certainly seemed true here

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)

two bbc guys saying offside, two onside i think. very tight.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

juicebox, usa or england and are you in usa or uk?

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

nice to see that we have as many legitimate goals scored as we do legitimate goals disallowed

classic sport

ripe dick clark (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

i'm in usa, and want to watch usa. sorry shoulda said that.

juicebox, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

Put Crouch on just to have someone on our side who is as tall as the Slovenians.

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

sorry man can't help w/that, sure someone else can tho

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

USA have been very shaky the first 15 mins in all three games i've seen them in. england have been reliably shit all match.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

espn3.com jb

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

fuck me

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

what a start

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

A+ to rooney for that corner

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.footyfire.com/

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

juicebox you could try atdhe.net they usually have multiple links up (but it can be a crapshoot)

crüt it out (dyao), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

Is that a goal?

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

terrible decision

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

Johnson booked for diving lol

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

england look really good here.

glen johnson yellow for diving.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

'diving' aka obeying the laws of physics

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

he deserved one in the first half, just hope it doesn't take out the momentum of this start

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, fifa added a rule they you get a yellow card when someone clotheslines you upside the face, didn't u hear?

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

Matmour just missed good chance for Alg

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

offside goal

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

england looking like they could get a couple in the next few minutes here

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

Just caught USA offside decision - it's very tight and the benefit of doubt is meant to go with attacker so USA robbed again tbh.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

crouch on for rooney and that's a goal

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

this is a very fast half here

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

Tried the BBC stream for a second there and it's still got Hodgson talking at pitchside at 16:07 wtf with the delay?

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

working for me, about 30 seconds behind german broadcast tv

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)

rooney- officially, at this stage, part of the problem tbh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:09 (fifteen years ago)

crouch on for rooney and that's a goal

― cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:05 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

BBC still says 1-0 on mine :/

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:09 (fifteen years ago)

it wasn't a goal, that's why!

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:09 (fifteen years ago)

Goal was disallowed, offside.

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

: ) yeah it is still 1-0 but there was a chance crouch would have nodded in easily that rooney couldn't reach

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

The surface of that pitch is really torn up.

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

rooney def still looks off it a bit

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

great liveblogging guys kiu :)

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)

STREAKER

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)

pictures or it didn't happen

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:12 (fifteen years ago)

milner's been good today. and handanovic!

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:12 (fifteen years ago)

milner and johnson >>>>> lennon and johnson on the right. not lennon's fault or anything, just not tryin to occupy same space.

england camped in svn box with corners now, goalie just saved well from terry header

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:12 (fifteen years ago)

rooney post!

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

rooney hits post, looked miles offside tbh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

Rooney unmarked hits post!

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

Slovenia go through if it all stays like this, yes?

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

Oh wayne wayne wayne I feel yr pain

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

all england, constant possession 35-40 yards out and working it in

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

dempsey post

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

this is great

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

and flubs the rebound too omg

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

gonna have a heart attack

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

(xxxxxxpost) if the USA-Algeria game ends 0-0 and this stays 1-0, then yes.

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

so fast

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

rooney's frustration

Zeno, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

glUSA, seriously.

rooney was onside, goalie made a great great save one on one

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

http://imgur.com/gd1nP.jpg

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

Dempsey post then slices rebound wide

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

OSDFAFSDLSLFJK

iatee, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

BBC news ticker indicates Glen Johnson booked twice?

Glen Johnson gets in a promising position on the edge of the Slovenia box and he goes down - it looks like he is fouled, but instead he is booked for diving by the referee. Hmm.

Mistakes at both ends almost let first Slovenia (because of Frank Lampard) and England (because of Marko Suler) in, but the defences recover. Slovenia's Bojan Jokic is booked for a foul on Glen Johnson and he misses the next match if they qualify.

Jarlrmai, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

srsly feel like I'm gonna lose my breakfast

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

I thought stevie g couldn't play on the left?

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

fucking save is amazing tbh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

usa go out if they draw 1-1 and england stays 1-0

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

second para there says johnson's marker was booked i think

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

usa alg still 0=0 tho?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

Running out of sympathy for or interest in these USA jagoffs if they can't put such easy fucking shots in the goal.

Grisly Addams (WmC), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

johnson got a talking to in first few minutes, stern warning. left back for slovenia got yellow for tackle on johnson though.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

okay im an idiot

Jarlrmai, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

eng to finish this with 3 or 4 tbh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

Altidore wtf was that tackle?

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

crut it out you saved me THANK YOU!!!!!!! :D

juicebox, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

barry barry barry

why are you here at all son?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

Brilliant defending from that cross by US

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

this ref is starting to worry me. he's going to fuck one of the teams.

rooney limping.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

barry barry barry

^^midfield England have been crying out for tbh

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

he's ok

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

legs can't take weight imo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

ref? fuck one of the teams? nah, never

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

buddle in for edu

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

god this is killing me

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

legs weigh less than his tits

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

corner to usa

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)

oh my god

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)

jesus this fucking game

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)

slv three free shots after barry losing ball under no pressure

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

fucks sake, just when you think England have it together...

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

save, block, wide

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

usa corner deflected just wide

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

brilliant play from the big cf to take it down and turn there

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

altidore cannot hold onto the fucking ball

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

Oh juuuust behind Buddle from knock down at corner

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

England and USA need their heads banging together imo.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

ghezzal in for algeria. was their best player for 15 min in the first game before he got sent off...

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

milner garrincha imo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

upson likes to foul, dunnee?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

gahhhhhh

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

cole coming on

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

this fucking game

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

time remaining?

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

whatup usa?

20 mins to go ev

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

don't think slovenia are going to get chances like those again :(

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

"hey Joe, check out this hilarious YouTube clip..."

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

HOW IS THIS GAME 0-0

iatee, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

Horrible US defending but shot screwed wide

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

20 minutes left

brilliant cross and altidore header barely saved by algerian keeper

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

come on usa

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

rooney off for j cole, not too soon either

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

wtf? rooney out?

Zeno, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

Joe Cole substituted for Rooney

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

Terry picking the team tbh

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

nice tackle USA!

almost algerian own goal

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

donovan with a corner

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

gahhh

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

This pitch, it looks like they have molehills on it...

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

rooney's been shit the entire tournament, be fair. and looked v slow and out of sorts today

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

we have no width

huddle is a fuckin joke imo

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

Can't even bring up the live text now :(

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

barry gives it away in midfield again, third time out of four touches iirc

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

england going into time-wasting mode w 20 mnis left!

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

vuvuzelas barely discernable here?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

Buddle is no good. Jozy is no good either, but better than Buddle.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

this is going very quiet atm

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

free kick US

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

goes nowhere once again

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

Mahindra Satyam people

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

altidore down, yellow on yahia

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

15 minutes left

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

gerrard still on left with cole playing behind defoe.

ball getting stuck up the left a lot, slow to play it around

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

searching pass up the right from cherundolo

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

free kick from just outside the area

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

eng - slo kinda died when cole came on

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

big save for algeria, corner

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

goal kick

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

leathered by Bradley, straight at keeper

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

slovenia- not bothered about scoring tbh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

beasley on for usa

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

palms are sweatin and I'm just READING updates

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

Beasley on

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

from sounds of things USA should be outta sight

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

damarcus beasley!

3-4-3!

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

Slovenia only need to bother if USA score.

Would really like to see USA in the next round considering their great comeback + ridiculous refereeing.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

yeah definitely pulling for US

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

dempsey deliberately punched, bleeding

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

deuce gettin hit in the face in the box, no call

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

goooooooooooooooo us

do something donovan!

moullet, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

Milner should have got a yellow there imo

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

come ooooooon USA. Dempsey bleeding from an innocuous bit of arm swinging, it seems. Taking the fakery to new levels.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

slov throwing men fwd since the manager read my moaning it seems

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

cynical foul on breaking Altidore

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

altidore makes great run, brought down, yellow card

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

ref in the england game is terrible

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

LOL england, Heskey on for defoe

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

lol Merdeyeux

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

Remind me what happens if Slovenia score?

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

immediately makes me want them to concede tbh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

dempsey skies free kick 20 feet over the bar

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

ridic prediction: Heskey to score

Slovenia score puts USA above England

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

6 minutes left

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

woeful free kick from Clint

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

gotta say i'd rather US to go through ahead of eng at this tage of the tournament

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

5 minutes

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

Eng's best performance and yet still huge periods of wretchedness

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

england's defence v shakey from set plays

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

4 minutes

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

fuck this shit

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

tracer ramping up the pressure!

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

US about to go all-out attack now

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

capello freaking out on the sidelines lol

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

yeah capello losign his shit

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

feeling Tracer's pain

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

US aren't going to do this

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

joe cole not best player in world after all

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

upson hero

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

+3 mins in this game

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

slov getting chance son the break ffs no excuse for it

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

It's going to be a long 3 minutes.

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

shiiiiiiit.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

huddle utterly useless, no fucking brain on this dude

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

this. game.

iatee, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

come on yanks

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

handball on beasley

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

4 minutes of stoppage time

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

wtf officials

idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

Are these the 2 worst teams to go thru to the last 16?

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

full time eng

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

YES AUOFHAUOIOFE

moullet, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

abhhhhhh;aoljgjqr3voaenrg

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

!!!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

aoislfhsao;ifhaewofi;

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

moullet, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

yrespkoro;dsalf;kjasjk

iatee, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

Yes!!!!!!

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

GOOD LUCK USA!

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

donovan

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

FUCK YES!!!

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

OMG!!! slovenia losing out ??

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

Good GOD.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

oooooohhhhhhhhh

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

ywes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.golnoir.net/europe/nations/eng/england.gif

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

lol well done usa

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

(I meant England but also hey USA!)

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

YES YTES YTES YESYSEY YESYES

iatee, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

England-Germany!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

CAN I CRY NOW

moullet, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

ILX the winner!

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

???USA 1???

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

oh shiiiiiiiii

Grisly Addams (WmC), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

WOOOOOAAAHHHH!

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!!

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

Lando you absolute beauty

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

algeria picking up cards here

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

LOL flashy carding from the ref

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

red card alg

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

16:48 GOAL USA 1-0 Algeria (Donovan)

talk about leaving it late hahaha

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

beautiful

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

Everyone wins!!

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

USA wins group then? Is that right?

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

Not a sending off - everyone else deserved it but that guy

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

HAHA the internet radio feed is way behind ilx updates

zomg

Brice Pilaf (brownie), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

Go0000al

idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

Ageria down to 10 men

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

oomgomg

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

USA top the group in dramatic styleee

Jarlrmai, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

game over!

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

That's my accumulator fucked. Fuck you usa!

(joeks bruv)

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

jeez did USA score in injury time?!

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

SOCCER!

idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

Disaster for England btw - dumped into the hard bit of the draw

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

when you drop out and we go through
YOU WILL CALL IT SOCCER TOO

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

Wonderful, wonderful Landon Donovan.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

1st USA
2nd England
-------
Slovenia
Algeria

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

football's pure magic: bradley smiling

moullet, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

So the USA did win the other night with 1-1, who knew?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

OMG ALGERIA EQUALIZER

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

that was fucking incredible

iatee, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

i feel for slovenia. they were through up until the whistle and just then usa scores, unbelievable

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, usa semi finals now

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

Well done US deserved to top group.

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

lol darragh

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

i screamed and clapped! usa! usa!

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

Well done Eng. No problems whatsoever. xps

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

cannot imagine the feeling in the slovenian side - USA scores and puts them out at the exact moment that they're shaking England's hand

feel bad for Algeria

but omg what a game

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

i think by "lacking discipline" the announcers meant that they are "huge assholes"

ripe dick clark (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

England v USA final?

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

the world cup is the best

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

i don't feel for slovenia- they really didn't even play for a draw so that was the risk they took

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

five live saying usa deserved to win the group based on poor decisions against them

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

ps

yanks- fukn delighted for u guys

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

cannot understand a fucking word cappello is saying on five live

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

My channel-hopping at the end was all-time inept - still haven't seen Lando's goal, though I did see his celebration

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

he sounds shit-faced

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

Bill Clinton approves

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

Man, Landon, cry all ya want. You deserve it.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

let's be real here

germany 0 eng 0 germany win 5-0 on penalties

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

donovan crying in interview, reporter asks what emotions he's feeling

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

slovenia's own fault tbh. they played for 1-0 never mind a draw for a lot of the match.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

england vs argentina maybe

98 feelings

moullet, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

what emotions is he feeling dan?

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

"time stopped and ... can't miss from there" luv u donny

idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

no crying till you win the whole thing, tbh

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, crying in the group stage a schoolboy error

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

england need +1 player that 'can't miss from there' imo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

To heck with you all, you've been crying since '66.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

landon sounds like a caricature of a 14 year old

ripe dick clark (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

warning: ice cold raggett zings itt

ripe dick clark (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

Never in doubt ;-)

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

To heck with you all, you've been crying since '66.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, June 23, 2010

wowwww!!!!! hahahahaa

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

lol raggett burn

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

To heck with you all, you've been crying since '66.

As the B&S song goes, '30 years of butthurt'...

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

lol ned

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

You heard, then? xps

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

now if jozy can learn to finish we can talk about getting past the quarters

idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

usa can reach the semis with this draw, but they'll need to play a lot better

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

Heck? Ned reminding us all this is a family thread.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

longest men's match in wimbledon history on right now btw

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

terry throwing his head in front of that slovenian shot is bonkers

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

terry trying to head that shot, such a retard

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

slovenia clear cut chances not quite as numerous as eng clear cut chances, but it wasn't worlds apart either tbh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

if it'd hit his head it would've killed him

cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

it's how he wants to die

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

So did Capello tell Gerrard to stay on the left vs Algeria as well but was ignored?

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

USA TOPS GROUP OF CHOKE

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

now if jozy can learn to finish we can talk about getting past the quarters

yeah, this - he was v poor today

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

Great game. England just warming up, I feel. In 3 or 4 games they'll be cruising into top gear for sure.

admrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

haha

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

i keep calling buddle "huddle" - whatever, hope i never have to type his name again

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

what new and exciting way will the refs fuxor the usa in the round of 16? tune in to find out!!!!

xp I thought jozy had a good first half, held up play well, second half not so much.

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

wow capello is such a madman

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

england were good in the first 30 mins today, tbf.

second half- not so much, last 30 mins v poor

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

england had a great first fifteen in the second half

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

looked more like scoring then than any other time in the match

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

WORLD CUP ROUND 2 2010: GOOD LUCK TO USA IN THEIR UPCOMING GAME

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

England were comfortable, but to be hanging on to any extent there is silly

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

missed the first 8 mins of 2nd half so maybe

england- can only remember instructions for 15 mins tops?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, like a fucking goldfish

admrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

what were instructions for the first 15 mins of the first half? be shit?

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

slovenia didn't have that much trouble playing through the england defence tho, they just weren't interested in scoring like pointed out

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

upson keeps his place?

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

terry throwing his head in front of that slovenian shot is bonkers

― cozen, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

He's just showing some passion

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

he's going to lose an eye

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

Who's going to win Group D? Serbia? Germany?

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

eng were ok for the first 30 mins imo

barry- looking like a player that didn't play so well all season for a team that finished lower than expected in the table.

huddlestone- looking smug

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

WORLD CUP ROUND 2 2010: GOOD LUCK TO USA IN THEIR UPCOMING GAME

so happy we have an upcoming game.

who am i supposed to root for in ghana/germany again? ghana, bc serbia likely to beat australia?

idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

Germany will win D unless we get shockissimo this evening

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

Last minute crucial winners in the face of adversity (shit refs) are the best thing ever - the excitement of that should prompt all Americans to embrace this new sport.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

was amazed by scenes in austin for the england - usa game. seems like far more people paying attention to even non-usa games then other times i've been there for big games.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

must have been 800 people in the bar i was in, six of us in england shirts.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

dan m yeah? i dunno i thought he didn't control well.. hmm i am sort of a n00b though

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

the disallowed goal against slovenia was almost worth it for that last goal in terms of rallying the country around soccer

ripe dick clark (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

Root for Germany - they're a nice side and really did suffer an injustice v Serbia

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

caek austin is.... special

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0623/soc_g_donovan3_576.jpg

moullet, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

i was in san francisco for euro 2004, which is obviously not as big a deal in the us, and there are timezone issues on that coast, but it was basically impossible to find anywhere showing the games. presumably sf is about as special when it comes to soccer.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

omg I had to leave and round on a pt at like 85:00

fukkin a

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)

caek, I could have steered you to many, many bars showing the games. There are two football bars in two blocks w/in walking distance of my place and both opened at 6AM today to show the US and England games.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:21 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, i did find somewhere, mad dog in the fog iirc. $20 cover.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:21 (fifteen years ago)

re: altidore miss-

other player has no business getting even in his eyeline for that shot imo

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)

I watched Euro 2004 in SF w/ nor problems, but there was a bar across from my work showing games. It's easy to catch the World Cup games here in LA (or at least on the East side..). Especially because this was in my hood yesterday:
http://laist.com/attachments/Kampy/MatchTruckLineWatchSoccer.jpg

admrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)

LOL Ramirez

admrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

world cup is big in knoxville

tbh hard to find a spot to watch it in a bar

(roxymuzak) ((((d-.-b)))) (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

absolutely nowhere in monterey for the knockouts. watched england go out hitting refresh on text commentary in the business centre of a hotel. sure that would not be necessary any more.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

Good job U.S.A.! Thank you Univision for allowing me to watch in the comfort of my home. Nice one Landon D! (as the Spanish announcers call him)

There are horns blowing outside my window; surely not for the US result?

Virginia Plain, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, pretty much every bar showing it in austin, and a lot of diners/pizza places, etc. watched the last brazil game with hundreds of people in ATL domestic terminal. good times!

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, i did find somewhere, mad dog in the fog iirc. $20 cover.

LOL, that's one of the places I meant. The cover was probably for Setanta - the swine.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

roxy really? awesome! i guess it helps that there's no basketball and no football happening right now.. and the closest baseball team is atlanta (or cincy)

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

no football

*cough*

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)

lol @ the BBC playing out to Gene.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)

lol reef for the bbc outro

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)

ha

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:29 (fifteen years ago)

Ghana vs Germany should be interesting. Germany really has to beat them.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:32 (fifteen years ago)

Well played. Defoe did what he does. James, Terry, Cole A, Gerrard, immense. Milner & Upson surprisingly good. Rooney better.

But the midfield stopped pressing from 60 mins onwards. Lampard didn't make a single run into the box in the second half. Has to go - bring Joe Cole in instead. Or Milner inside and Joe on the right.

I will be staying up for Germany now - it's 2.30 am kick off here. Wish me luck.

Dr.C, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)

xps Gene and Reef back-to-back, soundtrack provided by BBC Radio 6Music.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)

delete 6music

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)

funny you should say that

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)

Speaking of 6Music, you know the BBC needs age of austerity cuts when the Wimbledon coverage starts immediately after the football with a piece about some reporter trying to find somewhere at Wimbledon to watch the football.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)

i watched the bulk of the 2004 games that were shown on telemundo at the coffee cart outside my office on the sidewalk in the financial district.

akm, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)

euro 2k8 went down for me during long, long lunches at a greek cafe near my work

dan m, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:37 (fifteen years ago)

Mahindra Satyam people

― Vision Creation Mansun (NickB)

bears repeating

156, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:50 (fifteen years ago)

OH MY GOD THAT GAME

max, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:54 (fifteen years ago)

i must have had six heart attacks

max, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:54 (fifteen years ago)

why cant it be the world cup every year!!!!!!!!!!

max, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:55 (fifteen years ago)

suicide risk

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:56 (fifteen years ago)

inadvertently spilled the beans to other student :-/

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:58 (fifteen years ago)

the sn that had to happen

Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:59 (fifteen years ago)

i love michael bradley

156, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

why cant it be the world cup every year!!!!!!!!!!

real talk

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:11 (fifteen years ago)

Slovenia really had the US's number when I think about it: throw everything at them in the first 20 minutes, nick a goal, hit them on the counter after they get too far forward. To our credit, we're playing with great heart and not only Donovan but Bradley and Dempsey and to some extent Altidore are actually making or getting chances. England looked better today but they look spotty and a little indecisive and Slovenia never pressed that hard. Obviously, their shape is an issue (though Gerrard looked like he understood his brief today) but Rooney w/Defoe is a better combo than Heskey and anybody and England's defense looks a bit more convincing than USA's.

If either team fail to continue to improve there are a host of teams who can beat them, including Germany, Serbia and even Ghana.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:11 (fifteen years ago)

Serbia aren't all that. It'd be terrible if they got through and Germany didn't, even if they did actually beat them and all

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:13 (fifteen years ago)

All joeks aside, I thought England's defence has looked good, maybe Carragher excepted. I think they will be very difficult for anyone to break through if they keep it up.

admrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:14 (fifteen years ago)

Quickfire Poll : Will England Win The World Cup now?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:16 (fifteen years ago)

England's route to the final is now most likely Germany-Argentina-Spain, rather than Serbia-Uruguay-Brazil as it was 'til Donovan's goal

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

http://imgur.com/b2npb.gif

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:23 (fifteen years ago)

wtf!

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:25 (fifteen years ago)

Ghana will beat Germany

Dr.C, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

that clip: Terry was immense.

Dr.C, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:28 (fifteen years ago)

he was good generally, and stuff like that is worth it for the way it lifts the players and the crowd, but it's completely idiotic.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:29 (fifteen years ago)

That's Terry.

On the other hand Lampard worries me.

Dr.C, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)

don't worry me, they cd just replace him with somebody good

Iniesta Rantzen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)

It's Terry's path back to respect if not captaincy but it's a little dumb and commits him to the ground when he should be better able to react.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:34 (fifteen years ago)

lampard terrible, yes. don't think cappello will drop him.

joe cole got about when he came on, but he looked a little headless chicken.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:35 (fifteen years ago)

xp Michael that's just one Terry moment. He led the back 4, made a couple of good blocks and showed a fair bit of speed once or twice to cover the fullbacks being out of position.

Was disappointed with Joe Cole, but I couldn't work out the formation when he replaced Rooney. There's no way that Defoe can lead the line - can't hold the ball enough. At least Fabio realised this and brought Heskey on. It looked like Milner and Cole were both in each other's way in a 5 man midfield. I'd have pushed Gerard inside and put Cole on the left.

Thank god no SW-P. Now THAT'S a headless chicken.

Dr.C, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

Like the way that Johnson is shielding his nadgers as Terry comes at him like a dolphin on shore leave.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:57 (fifteen years ago)

1 ok game, 1 bad game and 1 good game from England (should've got a couple more, bad shutdown for the last 15 but necessary i guess).

Terry must've thought the ball was gonna be lifted rather than driven flat, the heroic buffoon.

US deserve the group win. Maybe they do have the right...what's that stuff?

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:58 (fifteen years ago)

This thread is an epic but did you guys see this?

http://lifehacker.com/5566097/vuvuzela-filter-strips-droning-horns-from-world-cup-broadcasts

Dr. Simon H, an engineer at National Instruments, took it upon himself to create software that easily and automatically stripped the sound of the vuvuzela from FIFA World Cup broadcasts. The software allows you to select the various frequencies at which vuvuzelas generally buzz and then strips them from the audio output while at the same time trying to preserve the integrity of other noises along similar frequencies.

link to software

http://decibel.ni.com/content/blogs/Simon/2010/06/16/world-cup-2010--filtering-the-annoying-vuvuzela-noise

Cunga, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:59 (fifteen years ago)

Ghana and Germany will advance if they draw and Serbia draw with Australia. If Germany, Ghana or Serbia win, they go through. Serbia will qualify with a draw if Germany beat Ghana by more than one goal or if Ghana wins. Australia need to beat Serbia heavily and hope the other game ends in a draw or a big defeat or else they are out.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:59 (fifteen years ago)

Stayed out of this thread because they replayed the USA game just after the England one here. Jesus Christ USA. Well done. :)

Popture, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:01 (fifteen years ago)

Exciting morning, what a finish for US. Donovan SO the man.

Re Serbia v Australia, Australia need to keep 11 men on the bloody field for a start. They looked better and more consistent against Ghana, but trouble is now we need goals and lots of them, and we are not Portugal.
Kind of preparing myself for elimination, though secretly hoping for exciting finish and a win.

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:05 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah if Australia play 90 minutes with 11 men I'll consider that a win. Hopes are pretty low

Popture, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

It's a crazy group.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

You heard, then? xps

I managed to get through things as quickly as possible and caught the last five minutes or so live on the internet, with a desperate scramble to stop Slovenia scoring being my introduction to the game.

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

do taller folks have bigger willies?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

lol meant to be in wimbledon thread

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

http://sports.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/abbey-clancy-peter-crouch.jpg

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:24 (fifteen years ago)

'twas basically finished as a contest when England scored and then had a short spell of extreme dominance. I baled out for the US match at about forty minutes but looked back in for thirty seconds at the final whistle - likely to be the worst decision I make in this world cup :(

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:24 (fifteen years ago)

still time to decide to become emotionally invested in england succeeding

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

I want an African team to go thru' to last 16 and I was impressed with Ghana in Cup of Nations but I kinda love this German team and the more matches I get to see Ozil play in this World Cup the better tbh.

my-name-is-jonas (pandemic), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

lolol

Guru Meditation (Ste), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

Don't know why I'm nervous. Australia pretty much doomed.

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

lol at podolski's attempted volley. crouch would have put that away.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

OK wth is up w/loew synchronising outfits again w/his assistant

hi bianca :x (cozen), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:46 (fifteen years ago)

kinda want germany to go all the way to the final just to see if they keep it up

hi bianca :x (cozen), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:46 (fifteen years ago)

doesn't even look like gfa kit, it looks like cos

hi bianca :x (cozen), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:46 (fifteen years ago)

Worrying about Germany is like worrying about the sun coming up in the morning, but they are second-best and vulnerable here

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

If Serbia win and Ghana vs Germany is a draw England will play Serbia?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

yes

Guru Meditation (Ste), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

Lots of slogging about here.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

Serbia are bound to beat Australia which means the Germans will go out if they dont win. England fans will rejoice at the thought of playing Serbia.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

wow what a goal

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

<3 this guy

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

Wow!

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

Marvelous.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

bloody hell nearly 1-1 right away

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

Ghana need to play to win like that more.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

Lovely goal. Very "Fifa 96".

admrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

Hope Serbia don't score

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

me too, fuck serbia, want germany & ghana to go through

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

Missed the goal watching the ridiculous (but fascinating) tennis match :(

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

is that tennis match over yet?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

58-57 in the fifth, new balls, any hour now...

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

suggest they start substituting cricket balls

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

Needs a goal for Oz to settle the nerves

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

Done

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

Timmy!

Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

Both Australia and Serbia substituting like crazy to try and make something happen now.

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

If Ghana get two, Ghana and Australia will be through

if, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

so germany and ghana through basically a lock now

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

OMG!

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

or maybe not? what the hell is going on with australia

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

Absolute rocket of a shot!

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

Yes!!!

Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

Good day for the colonies

idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

Just discovered my new neighbours are happy, loud Australians.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, well done me. Kind of wish Australia had taken less of a beating in match one now.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)

ok so we need germany to score some goals and australia to hopefully get one or two now?

Guru Meditation (Ste), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

they only need another one or two, germany may score again

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

okay as an american, how many goals am I rooting for and from whom

iatee, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

I think you want Australia to play you

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

need better updates:

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

okay as an american, how many goals am I rooting for and from whom

this

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

we want Nother goal from germany or australia so that we can play australia

156, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

Depends how healthy your attitude to Australians is - Germany and Oz need two goals between them for Oz to go through

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

okay as an american, how many goals am I rooting for and from whom

I'd say none. Or two for Australia. Either of which means you avoid Germany.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

If Germany get 2 more is that enough for Oz to get thru? Goal diff wd be same as Ghana?

p-dog, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

Oz have scored 3 vs Ghana's 2

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

KROOS

admrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

see I want Ghana to go thru cuz they African, but surely oz would be the easier match up yeah?

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

Ghana is better losing, otherwise they'll meet England for next game..

Zeno, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

Ok, cheers

Oof

p-dog, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

yeah and who'd want to face an on form England?

xpost

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

this group is rocking now

Guru Meditation (Ste), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

no idea what's going on any more

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

me either

admrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

Serbia score!

p-dog, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

wait the table I'm looking at says that an oz win and a Ghana loss still sees Ghana thru?

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

Serbia has scored one back against Oz's 2.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

xp NO

admrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

ghana and germany just wanting to end the game, as it stands both are through

serbia need a win and that probably won't happen

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

cuz of gd

admrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

Love how Australia are still piling on like they can still do this

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

I mean yes

whatever

admrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

A goal for Serbia will put Ghana out, yes?

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

commentator says yes

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

yeah that's right. ghana been doing the slovenia move through the whole game

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

Ghana vs England is probably easier than vs USA.
they might want to lose.

Zeno, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

wait the table I'm looking at says that an oz win and a Ghana loss still sees Ghana thru?

Australia has a goal deficit, mostly from that 4-0 loss to Germany.

jaymc, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

i mean harder

Zeno, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

Cahill handles in the box, no penalty!

p-dog, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

Ghana currently has four. Serb and ger have three. if Ghana loses then ger has five, Ghana stays at four. if Serb draws with oz, they get four and can beat Ghana on GD iirc.

there is no hope for oz.

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

terrible terrible miss

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

serbia miss a sitter!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

he was miles offside tho

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

Man, what a day's football

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

Germany & Ghana through

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

australia fighting for ghana til the end

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

USA vs Ghana
England vs Germany

Zeno, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

How bad is Essien's injury? Ghana could have used him

admrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

England v Germany
USA v Ghana

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

Australia - Serbia got very good.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

USA vs Ghana
England vs Germany

admrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

Great, more historical grievances for Serbia

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

Didn't Ghana send us out of the group stage last time?

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

USA vs Ghana
England vs Germany

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

who is against USA?

Zeno, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

it's England v Germany
USA v Ghana

admrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

thanks

Zeno, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

Sturridge at Chelsea iirc

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

USA vs Ghana
England vs Germany

if, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

England v Germany Sunday afternoon... Build-up is going to be hilarious!!

p-dog, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

http://i42.tinypic.com/11kfukj.jpg

admrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

Great, more historical grievances for Serbia

The Aborigines mightn't mind some ethnic cleansing down under.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

Australia with 2 goals and no red cards (count em)...bummed that we didn't make it through, but happy the lads put on a good show. Great couple of goals. Whew. What a day! I'm exhausted.

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

I guess I have to do some work now, bye

admrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

<3 Marcel composing himself there

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

Keegan, for all his misplaced confidence, is right - England can beat this Germany side

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

BTW, the Univision streaming is excellent, if anyone needs a US stream for future reference.

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

Bye, Adam.

jaymc, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

Can't believe I have 3 and a half more hours of work. Day really should end with the afternoon game.

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

oh shit I have Saturday off ^_^

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

Why are the groups tomorrow the wrong way round? Was looking forward to Paraguay v NZ but now find it's when I'm at work. Japan v Denmark will do I guess.

if, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

did not expect USA v Ghana at all. that's the World Cup.

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)

The loss to Ghana eliminated the US in '06.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

They aren't playing a very positive style of football, though.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

Ghana are very good at everything except finishing. Tough game for the US.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)

who does the winner of usa/ghana play?

iatee, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)

Uruguay or South Korea

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

which is pretty cool as you probably wouldn't have expected one of those four to make the QFs before the start of the tournament

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)

The SF, even!

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

so winner of england game is argentina or mexico?

Guru Meditation (Ste), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)

England or Germany iirc

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

So England face Germany and then either Mexico or Argentina?

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

Oops, sorry, Ste.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

yes

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

England vs Argentina coached by Maradona would make for an interesting tabloid build up.

display-name aesthete (snoball), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

That late USA goal really spun the draw around.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

wow I'm really glad we won our group

iatee, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

RTE gang ripping the piss out of landon donovan's post match interview big time

Michael B, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)

What's RTE?

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

Real Talk Eire

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

What are they saying?

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

"USA v Ghana, Germany v England"

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

basically dunphy eye-rolling and being a snarky asshole. i think he made some remark about 'THATS the real spirit of America' after the interview clip. then dennis irwin went all Heat magazine and said something about Donovan's romantic strife and then dunphy blew a kiss to the tv screen and shouted 'HI BIANCA!'. sprinkle with some liam brady banter about how he was in NY recently and noticed the MLS 'really pushing the game there.'

Michael B, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:11 (fifteen years ago)

That's more dickish of Irwin than I would have expected.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:14 (fifteen years ago)

Real Talk Eire

super lols, tempted to use irl

p-dog, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:22 (fifteen years ago)

taken from elsewhere:

In the modern era (i.e. post-1930), USA firsts in this World Cup:

-First time we've gone undefeated in a World Cup group stage.
-First time we've accumulated more than 4 points.
-First time winning our group.
-First time we've outscored our opponents in the group stage.
-First time getting points and a win in the third group stage game.
-First time we've come back from a 2-goal deficit to get a result.

156, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:26 (fifteen years ago)

-first time we didn't suck

iatee, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)

tbf it was the

E
A
S
Y

group

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

not sure this is what the sun was getting at, but england did qualify despite being absolutely awful in two games, which you don't usually get away with.

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:32 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah in a league I'd trot out the "sign of a good team is winning when you're playing badly" cliche but we didn't win and the World Cup doesn't work like that.

I think England were probably better than 1-0 today and the knockouts is a whole 'nother thing so God knows now tbh. Germany aren't All That. If we get past them, some of the other teams in the draw are.

I like big cuts and I cannot lie (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

They started well enough against the US.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:35 (fifteen years ago)

they weren't "awful" in that game

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:37 (fifteen years ago)

Anyone else hear the ITV commentator imply that Alex Ferguson's "typical Germans" comment was a reference to how they always perform under pressure and get a result or something, seemed to totally forget he was being a xenophobic prick.

Chris, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)

disagree, xp

caek, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)

only one goal scored against england in 3 games is *something* to be positive about, no?

iatee, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)

yeah Tyldesley defending Fergie as usual. he was also adamant that Lahm should've been sent off for a deliberate handball, the bellend.

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:40 (fifteen years ago)

i wonder if the "national" press will ease up on the racism & xenophobia before sundays England vs Germany game?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:42 (fifteen years ago)

Tyldesley also said that Didi Hamann's goal at Wembley knocked England out of the World Cup. Doh.

Chris, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:42 (fifteen years ago)

Ghana are very good at everything except finishing. Tough game for the US.

― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:41 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark

you could say this for the US after today, too

ripe dick clark (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:42 (fifteen years ago)

Tyldesley was fucking horrible tonight.

I thought England were awful against the US from the 4th minute on, result be damned.

I like big cuts and I cannot lie (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:43 (fifteen years ago)

it seemed to me like the US played a lot more through the midfield today? like, against serbia and england we reverted to this offense where we bombed the ball 60 yards and hoped for the best, but today, maybe cuz we were pressing up so much, we had way less of those kind of plays and more organic scoring chances, or at least it seemed that way

ripe dick clark (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:44 (fifteen years ago)

quick fire poll

will özil go to:

arsenal
man utd
man city
write-in

hi bianca :x (cozen), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:44 (fifteen years ago)

http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/news/algeria-star-slaps-female-reporter--fbintl_ro-algeria062310.html

did anyone post anything on this??

goole, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:45 (fifteen years ago)

While walking through the interview zone, Saifi spotted writer Asma Halimi, who works for Algerian newspaper Competition, and struck her with his open hand in front of dozens of witnesses. Halimi responded by striking the player in the mouth.

goole, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:46 (fifteen years ago)

Jordan, I think you mean Slovenia. Yeah, less long ball football today, which is a good thing.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

http://i48.tinypic.com/1yfrn.jpg

156, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:48 (fifteen years ago)

USA draws 1-0!

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:02 (fifteen years ago)

how does özil feel about oasis?

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:05 (fifteen years ago)

we get kind of muddled up in the middle though, we need more WIDTH. no?

aside from demerit's howler in the opening minutes i thought our defense wasn't half bad today!

it has gone pretty much unremarked that what sparked our goal initially was tim howard's prescient ball up to donovan to kick off the counterattack, it was placed perfectly from very long range

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:05 (fifteen years ago)

we need more WIDTH

then john isner's yer man, eh?

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:06 (fifteen years ago)

guys like a bunch of the nurses over in the cardiology unit are from Ghana. I am torn between trash talk and actually having my pts IVs started

what to do

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:09 (fifteen years ago)

it has gone pretty much unremarked that what sparked our goal initially was tim howard's prescient ball up to donovan to kick off the counterattack, it was placed perfectly from very long range

Pretty much exactly what Wynalda said for Yahoo Sports.

We're playing wide enough but not crossing terribly well in the last third.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:11 (fifteen years ago)

i'm not sure how much trash talk you can really do given that they whupped us four years ago.

no michael essien this year though..

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:12 (fifteen years ago)

gbx, if you want top be sporting, congratulate them on going through and inform them that you will be rooting for the USA on Saturday. A good result is a good result and talking trash to them is highly unlikely to affect the result of the game.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:17 (fifteen years ago)

dude you don't know what I can do with my ~mind~

anyway of course you are right obv.

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:21 (fifteen years ago)

It's my understanding that getting a bunch of nurses pissed off at you at the same time is a bad idea.

Grisly Addams (WmC), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:22 (fifteen years ago)

I was working with a whole lot of Mexicans when the US kicked Mexico out of the WC in 2002 and we all showed up to work the next day a little hung-over. I didn't gloat, though, 'cause that would be ignoble but I told them I had thought it a good, entertaining match.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)


GP W D L GS GA GD Pts Pts/G
24 northern hemisphere teams 60 17 16 27 54 66 -12 67 1.1
8 southern hemisphere teams 20 12 6 2 29 17 12 42 2.1

counting brazil as the south

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:25 (fifteen years ago)

poop

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:25 (fifteen years ago)

A female journalist has claimed Algeria footballer Rafik Saifi slapped her in the face after his side were knocked out of the World Cup.

"I was waiting for the Algerian players. When Saifi came I just moved away. I felt a hit," Asma Halimi told BBC World Service.

The journalist, who works for Algerian newspaper Competition, said she had a disagreement with Saifi a year ago.

"I will make a complaint with Fifa and the police," she added.

The BBC World Service's Richard Connelly witnessed the incident in the mixed zone - an area where journalists and players congregate - after the match.

"Rafik Saifi slapped the face of journalist Asma Halifi," said Connelly.

"She hit him back as a reflex.

"He then threw a bottle of sports drink which missed and had to be restrained from attacking her again."

The BBC understands the altercation comes after a year of bad feelings between the pair.

"Saifi took exception to an interview that she translated and published in her newspaper," explained Connelly.

"There was a similar incident between the two last year. She's going to complain formally to Fifa and to the police later on tonight."

Halimi says that Saifi threatened that she will come to harm in Algeria.

An Algerian federation spokesman said he had no information about the incident and so could not comment.

There was nobody immediately available from Fifa.

The Algerians had just been knocked out of the World Cup after losing to an injury-time goal by Landon Donovan of the United States.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:27 (fifteen years ago)

you could just tell from the final 20 mins of the match that they were really a classy team

ripe dick clark (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:32 (fifteen years ago)

apparently bornstein played ok today? i'm sorry for disparaging you in the past jonathan. but i still hope you don't play again for the rest of the WC

mizzell, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)

He was okay. He came on late though, more for legs than anything else.

I wonder if Gooch will play on Saturday?

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:34 (fifteen years ago)

I'm actually pretty glad that we have Germany in the next round, rather than an (all respect) lesser team. It's going to be more of an 'event', I guess.

Davek (davek_00), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:34 (fifteen years ago)

he started the game i thought?
xpost

mizzell, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:35 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, LB, surprisingly fine. still, i'd rather not see him again, he scares the shit out of me

156, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:36 (fifteen years ago)

mizzell, you're right. He was subbed OUT late for Beasley.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:37 (fifteen years ago)

i will stop posting pix pretty soon, but this one is just too good of a moment not to enshrine itt
http://i50.tinypic.com/qrlo5i.jpg

156, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:37 (fifteen years ago)

keep posting pix tbh

ripe dick clark (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:39 (fifteen years ago)

Does anybody know Buddle's game at LA Galaxy? I really don't know him at all.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:39 (fifteen years ago)

156, that's excellent!

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:39 (fifteen years ago)

all i know is that he has scored a bunch of goals this season, mostly from donovan assists.

mizzell, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:41 (fifteen years ago)

This is nothing to do with the world cup but Im posting it for those of you who have never seen it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ2976_rR_s

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:42 (fifteen years ago)

Think Slovenia might have got a result today had they warmed up to the Laibach version.

Stevie T, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

all i know is that he has scored a bunch of goals this season, mostly from donovan assists.

I'll take it. If those two know each other that well, that's definitely a plus. I really want Dempsey and Altidore to score (in Dempsey's case - a 'real' goal.)

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:45 (fifteen years ago)

guys so Donovan is legit good huh

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:45 (fifteen years ago)

like not just good for an American

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:46 (fifteen years ago)

Donovan is legit good no question

I like big cuts and I cannot lie (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:46 (fifteen years ago)

Most of the US team is better than "good for an American" tho afaic

I like big cuts and I cannot lie (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:46 (fifteen years ago)

think he proved that this past winter with everton, despite one awful miss

mizzell, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:46 (fifteen years ago)

and yeah would love to see a Dempsey goal that is O_O

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:47 (fifteen years ago)

yeah one like this plz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeL1DXp-PuU

156, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:49 (fifteen years ago)

gbx, I used to hate Donovan. He was a brash, trash talking little punk who didn't really show up with the goods and (w/all due repsect to the MLS) got stuck playing in the US. When I saw him earlier this year on a loan stint at Everton (England), he looked good and I was pleased 'cause the kind of gritty, English style of play at Everton is a style that the US is relatively good at and which has been part of our soccer-playing tradition. I really like that we're mostly not a nation of divers and rollers and simulators, btw and take pride, even when we're shoddy journeymen, of not taking our soccer down that route.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:51 (fifteen years ago)

holy crap @ Dempsey goal

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:52 (fifteen years ago)

I used to hate Donovan cuz he was a five head pretty boy that typified the soccering tradition of America: boring suburbia

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:53 (fifteen years ago)

Dempsey at Fulham has had some good moments, too. Our problem is that Fulham and Everton are mid-table at best and we're going to run into teams that have a lot of top-level-club players on them. Bradley's been pretty decent so far tactically, I'd say, though I don't know if he was playing for a draw against England or what.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

everton at their best are better than mid table

mizzell, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)

I'm wary of boring suburbia, too, but mostly for lacking what Donovan (and apparently Buddle if you read about him) has finally gained: some grit.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)

no joke, they should gather the team in a conference room in the team hotel, set up a projection screen, and show them reaction videos of the landon goal from gatherings around the country that are posted on youtube -- would b very ~*~*inspiring*~*~ imo

ripe dick clark (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)

I am so out of touch. can't wait until my clerkship is over and I can not study for my boards and watch he tourney instead

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)

nah Michael, Everton the last few years have been a legit top 6 club and but for some shitty luck with injuries at the start of the 09/10 season shd probably have made a Champions League spot.

I like big cuts and I cannot lie (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)

xposts omg that Dempsey goal! love that he's sporting the black eye

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:57 (fifteen years ago)

those are some epic bags under Clin-ton's eyes. Sounds like he's been having fun yelling too.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:57 (fifteen years ago)

no joke, they should gather the team in a conference room in the team hotel, set up a projection screen, and show them reaction videos of the landon goal from gatherings around the country that are posted on youtube -- would b very ~*~*inspiring*~*~ imo

otm

still haven't seen it myself

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:58 (fifteen years ago)

I like Moyes and the Toffees but it's hardly world-beating stuff, ya know?

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:58 (fifteen years ago)

No, not like Leeds.

Kiitën (admrl), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:59 (fifteen years ago)

don't tell jones xp

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:59 (fifteen years ago)

Arena and his team were notorious for playing with great heart but getting caught out naively and I'm hoping these guys and Bradley have some deviousness to their planning in addition to their evident heart.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 23:00 (fifteen years ago)

LOL at adam trying to wind me up.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 23:00 (fifteen years ago)

=D

Kiitën (admrl), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

donovan was a rubfest in '06, hes turned into a really good player now though. i think altidore has the makings of a really good player. just needs to get settled with a club and build up some confidence; he wasnt as bad with hull as people say either.

Michael B, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

Jozy was a looooooooong way from being the problem at Hull

I like big cuts and I cannot lie (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)

http://mashable.com/2010/06/23/usa-vs-algeria-world-cup/

Kiitën (admrl), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 23:04 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK-gUXl7usc

Kiitën (admrl), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 23:10 (fifteen years ago)

^^classic

ripe dick clark (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 23:10 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noOHdTQd6H8&feature=related

Kiitën (admrl), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

I like Moyes and the Toffees but it's hardly world-beating stuff, ya know?

Michael is right. Everton are not World champions. But, last season, it was ManCity(x2)/ManUtd/Chelsea-beating stuff, two-defeats-in-last-24 stuff and if the implication is that Donovan basically shines as an Everton-type player in an Everton-type team, then this is Cup football from now on and we're always Up for the Cup at Goodison. The US should probably have reached the final in 2002 and this is a much better side.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 23:15 (fifteen years ago)

oh man j0rdan that just makes me want to fight a terrorist

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 23:23 (fifteen years ago)

btw pretty dece US chant i heard at the US v. UK game (played on a jumbotron in the parking lot of the only bar in town that has bought in to the WC 100%), yelled by lol stoners: U-S-A ain't nothing to fuck with (obv to the tune of WU TANG)

yeah w/e it's not that much better than U S A ! but we have a wu tang and u do not, so shut up

flapjackin (gbx), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 23:25 (fifteen years ago)

i did propose the following uk rap-based football chant: "witness the shitness, the Ivanhoe liveth, one dope one test"

but heads still ain't ready

can really see USA in the semi now

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 23:36 (fifteen years ago)

we have a wu tang and u do not

Ah but we have Roll Deep, Hijack, London Posse and Blazin' Squad

Kiitën (admrl), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 23:39 (fifteen years ago)

These are lower league football teams, not rap collectives btw

Kiitën (admrl), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 23:40 (fifteen years ago)

also i think that Iranian dude counts

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 23:41 (fifteen years ago)

http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/23/across-the-u-s-an-explosion-of-joy/?ref=sports

Michael B, Thursday, 24 June 2010 00:06 (fifteen years ago)

dope

ripe dick clark (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 00:13 (fifteen years ago)

still in shock tbh

Brice Pilaf (brownie), Thursday, 24 June 2010 01:41 (fifteen years ago)

http://i50.tinypic.com/qrlo5i.jpg

this one makes it seem like it happened in slow-mo

iatee, Thursday, 24 June 2010 01:51 (fifteen years ago)

^^^dempsey offside imo

mookieproof, Thursday, 24 June 2010 01:55 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeVhSMUSlnQ

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 02:06 (fifteen years ago)

So about the 70th minute, I overhear this guy talking behind me. He’s telling the group of people that have been standing there since about 20 minutes before kick-off: “Yeah I was driving down the road and saw the bar was open, and then noticed that it was packed inside. So I figured I better stop and check it out.” I think he was one of the strangers I hi-fived after we scored.

Anyway, I learned that if you’re ever driving down the road and you spot a bar that appears to be open and packed at an odd hour, you should pop in and check out what’s going on. It was probably the best 20 minutes of that guy’s week.

156, Thursday, 24 June 2010 02:07 (fifteen years ago)

love the droning "goaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal" on that clip tbh

flapjackin (gbx), Thursday, 24 June 2010 02:27 (fifteen years ago)

heard some USAUSAUSA-clad dudes singin' this, which I partially posted upthread

We are red and white and blue, oh-oh, oh-ohh! We are red and white and blue, oh-oh, oh-ohh. When you drop out and we go through, YOU WILL CALL IT SOCCER TOO. oh-ohh, oh-ohh, ohh...

Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Thursday, 24 June 2010 02:34 (fifteen years ago)

it's the same note as the vuvuzelas

and he does it 3 times!

crüt it out (dyao), Thursday, 24 June 2010 02:34 (fifteen years ago)

also btw I drove thru Green Bay, WI today (home of Jay Demerit) and talk radio dicks were discussing how they enjoyed fair-weather USA WC fandom

Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Thursday, 24 June 2010 02:35 (fifteen years ago)

nother pic

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/510/teampile.jpg

Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Thursday, 24 June 2010 03:13 (fifteen years ago)

<3

ripe dick clark (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 04:08 (fifteen years ago)

i am loving the evolution of usa fan culture happening with this world cup. dan's mentioned the chants that are >>> the standard usa usa chants. elvis and captain america have showed up. looking fwd to taking that further. brazil 2014, i want fake marilyn monroe, mark twain, prince, abe lincoln, dr. phil, all there dressed up and hollering.

156, Thursday, 24 June 2010 06:35 (fifteen years ago)

abe lincoln, statue of liberty and a guy with a moustache in a stars and stripes bikini were all at the bar i watched it at.

caek, Thursday, 24 June 2010 06:36 (fifteen years ago)

please tell me Liberty was crying

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 24 June 2010 06:42 (fifteen years ago)

lady liberty looked a very sunburnt green and quite drunk tbh

caek, Thursday, 24 June 2010 06:43 (fifteen years ago)

no crying except by me tho, this was the england - usa game.

caek, Thursday, 24 June 2010 06:44 (fifteen years ago)

i want to take a moment in this thread to call together all nations, all colors, all creeds, to one purpose: let us will italy out of this world cup

156, Thursday, 24 June 2010 06:51 (fifteen years ago)

Doubt you'll get the Italians in on it tbh; the genius of France this year was that they actually managed this kind of thing, including their own

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 24 June 2010 07:12 (fifteen years ago)

http://i45.tinypic.com/6j0bah.jpg

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 07:16 (fifteen years ago)

I'm actually pretty glad that we have Germany in the next round, rather than an (all respect) lesser team. It's going to be more of an 'event', I guess.

I agree. I want the World Cup to be an event. Qualifiers are boring enough, generally watching England scrape a narrow win over countries like Belarus or Macedonia. I don't really want to see more of that in the finals. Last time round we got Ecuador at this stage (I think) and I don't remember anything about that match - a complete non-event. But I clearly remember the dramam of our various exits (and rare victories) against Germany, Argentina and (in recent years) Portugal. Our players seem to struggle with being expected to win, so it's probably for the best if we're the underdogs in every match from now on. If we can beat Germany and Argentina then what better way to progress towards the final? And if we lose to one of them we can always chuck bottles around Trafalgar Square and stab random Russian students.

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 24 June 2010 07:27 (fifteen years ago)

england vs germany
argentina vs mexico

any other potential derbies in the draw?

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 07:46 (fifteen years ago)

portugal/spain

156, Thursday, 24 June 2010 07:53 (fifteen years ago)

England vs Germany is only a "derby" for England. Holland is the big enemy for Germany.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 07:58 (fifteen years ago)

england vs germany

Oh noes, The War again. Sigh.

StanM, Thursday, 24 June 2010 08:12 (fifteen years ago)

ja was using the loosest defn of the term derby

is arg vs mex even really a 'derby' or just a grudge match? same dif?

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 08:17 (fifteen years ago)

is arg vs mex even really a 'derby' or just a grudge match?

dunno if it's worth making the distinction - I think we can pretty much guarantee a festival of fouling, play-acting, cynicism and more fouling (with the odd bit of Messi magic).

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 08:24 (fifteen years ago)

any other potential derbies in the draw?

next round, spain/portugal ?

Guru Meditation (Ste), Thursday, 24 June 2010 08:25 (fifteen years ago)

ppl on another forum I read grousing about england taking the ball into the corner during stoppage time

seriously? do ppl think this is an illegit tactic?

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 08:47 (fifteen years ago)

It's legit but lame at the same time esp when you're playing fucking Slovenia who are actually PLAYING TO LOSE, you know?

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 08:53 (fifteen years ago)

classic when done by France in a game they actually are losing, purely to spite the host's outside chances of qualifying

It's actually a great thing to see when done well - I was at the last world cup where Sweden got a late goal against Paraguay then kept the ball in the corner for the whole last five minutes of the game, it was very skilful. But no british side will ever be able to manage this, so basically a dud tactic for England.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 09:01 (fifteen years ago)

partic classic when it's denilson doing it all by himself for what seemed like forever against ?turkey? in 2002

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 09:10 (fifteen years ago)

Wow nobody trolls like Der Kaiser, really

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 09:19 (fifteen years ago)

"i want to take a moment in this thread to call together all nations, all colors, all creeds, to one purpose: let us will italy out of this world cup"

You do not need to bother all these people: Italy will do it by itself.

Marco Damiani, Thursday, 24 June 2010 09:22 (fifteen years ago)

be fair- only cos france are now out.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 09:28 (fifteen years ago)

After watching the highlights of Oz-Serbia, I now *truly* understand why we are buying Shwarzer.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 09:40 (fifteen years ago)

I am a couple highlight reels and one massive thread behind but have we talked about-

Uche (Nig) looks a hell of a player, huh?
lol I'm starting to come around to a riquelme-less Argentina still being enjoyable enough to see winning it. Veron still has a touch of class.
I don't get Podolski at all.
lol england v. germany, may take a walk up the cornershop just to see the headlines.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 09:49 (fifteen years ago)

fucking hell yakubu! now i want him to go to porn ham utd and be replace by the next pauleta!

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 09:51 (fifteen years ago)

Article about Irish- France WC sentiment OTM

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 10:34 (fifteen years ago)

gonna be disappointed if i open it up and don't see a lolcat.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 10:38 (fifteen years ago)

some of us are more mature than that, thank you very much

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 10:40 (fifteen years ago)

tho really, the time for lolcats is passed

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 10:40 (fifteen years ago)

much like the french squad?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 10:54 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, given that only about 3 people remain from the team that didn't allow us to lose on penalties, it seems a bit much to keep up the hate

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 10:57 (fifteen years ago)

Play him off, Vuvuzela cat! (xxpost)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPMAZAp9Ix0

StanM, Thursday, 24 June 2010 10:58 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, the war headlines are already up.

http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2010/06/they-will-mention-war.html

StanM, Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:01 (fifteen years ago)

o_O
http://www.currybet.net/images/blog2008/20080225_achtung.png

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:05 (fifteen years ago)

Swimming against the tide here, but I want Italy through - knockout tie v Holland is what the world cup is all about

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:07 (fifteen years ago)

I always want Italy to do well

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:08 (fifteen years ago)

I have no doubt Italy will progress.

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:10 (fifteen years ago)

The ubiquitous droning World Cup horn the vuvuzela is making a bid to score in the charts.

A team of record producers created Blow That Vuvuzela and landed a distribution deal in the space of five days when it looked like the relentless racket could see the instrument banned from grounds.

Now the group - calling itself The Voodoo Sellers - is poised to release the dance track on Thursday on iTunes.

It is claimed to be the UK's first commercial vuvuzela single and unites rhyming celebrity names such as Nelson Mandela, David Mellor, Paul Weller, Uri Geller and "busty Nigella".

http://celebrity.uk.msn.com/news/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=153891880

James Mitchell, Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:17 (fifteen years ago)

would poll, but it would be a walk for the goddess tbh

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:17 (fifteen years ago)

Oh dear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR3XZi_WVS4

James Mitchell, Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:18 (fifteen years ago)

Needs a webuyanycar.com mashup.

Also the immediate execution of everybody involved.

Landon Donovan Glory (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:19 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR3XZi_WVS4

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:19 (fifteen years ago)

oops - typical rush through xposts

this is gonna get messi (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:20 (fifteen years ago)

Needs a webuyanycar.com mashup.

Also, the immediate execution of everybody involved.

Landon Donovan Glory (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:20 (fifteen years ago)

weblowvuvuzela.com

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:20 (fifteen years ago)

youdontunderstandthatvuvuzelaisthenameofmydog.com

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:29 (fifteen years ago)

"We wanted to include Fabio Capella in the lyrics but he didn't quite fit."

Should have tried 'Jamie Carregha'.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:32 (fifteen years ago)

Shoulda mentioned Mark Kinsella wtf

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:34 (fifteen years ago)

"Some Italian fella"

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:34 (fifteen years ago)

how tf does NV get to duplicate posts like that?

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:36 (fifteen years ago)

A cunning ,

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:37 (fifteen years ago)

some penn & teller shit right here

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:48 (fifteen years ago)

ALWAYS THINKING, SON

Landon Donovan Glory (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:50 (fifteen years ago)

, , , , , ,eeeeeleon

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:52 (fifteen years ago)

ps do you like bailey's y/n

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:53 (fifteen years ago)

also i'm havin that DN tbh

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:53 (fifteen years ago)

ok wait tim howard has tourettes? why has this only come to my attention?

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:05 (fifteen years ago)

daniel sturridge has cuntin cunted off to chelsea the fuck

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:06 (fifteen years ago)

I like Bailey's y but a little goes a long way unless you're drinking it in cocktail form.

Landon Donovan Glory (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:07 (fifteen years ago)

(xp)Don't know how it's only just come to your attention.
"Tim-timiny Tim-timiny tim tim turoo,
We've got Tim Howard and he says fuck you"

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:07 (fifteen years ago)

Ha. Wish I knew for the past decade like the rest of you.

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:08 (fifteen years ago)

I only learned that from a football chants thread on ILX blessing us with "chim chiminy, chim chiminy, chim chim cheroo, his name is Tim Howard and he says fuck you"

haha xpost while I was reading the rest of the thread :-)

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:09 (fifteen years ago)

I like Bailey's y but a little goes a long way unless you're drinking it in cocktail form.

― Landon Donovan Glory (Noodle Vague), 24 June 2010 12:07 (2 minutes ago)

just askin like

recently on ILX Dreams...

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:10 (fifteen years ago)

"There's only two Andy Gorams" ftw

Landon Donovan Glory (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:11 (fifteen years ago)

two andy gorams is all time

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:12 (fifteen years ago)

can only assume Almunia has a private life to make last year's Tiger Woods look this year's Tiger Woods

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:14 (fifteen years ago)

England vs Germany is only a "derby" for England. Holland is the big enemy for Germany.

Bit like Scotland v England only being a derby for Scotland

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:01 (fifteen years ago)

one side cares a lot more than the other tbh

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:02 (fifteen years ago)

Now you know how we feel

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:03 (fifteen years ago)

Semis onwards could yet be entirely Southern Cone derbies. I actually fear the semis are more likely to be 94/02-style mismatches, but at least getting there should be fun.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:09 (fifteen years ago)

hoping for uruguay/arg spain/brazil semis

lolvezula (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

i'm saying
arg v brazil
urug v parag

Guru Meditation (Ste), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:18 (fifteen years ago)

usa v bra
arg v por or chi

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:20 (fifteen years ago)

Please God not Portugal

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:21 (fifteen years ago)

i think my predictor sheet has errors, it has groups F and G winners and runners up facing each other again in the quarters. that's surely not possible right?

Guru Meditation (Ste), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:24 (fifteen years ago)

(ie, i have port v brazil and italy v parag in the quarters)

Guru Meditation (Ste), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:25 (fifteen years ago)

this wc >>>>>>>> last week's wc btw

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:37 (fifteen years ago)

ok wait tim howard has tourettes? why has this only come to my attention?

There was a New Yorker article about Tim Howard a few weeks ago. I'm American, so I'd never even heard of him before this, but it did talk about his Tourette's. Which, as it turns out, manifests itself as facial tics and twitches, as well as various OCD-ish behaviors, but does not involve the stereotypical verbal outbursts.

jaymc, Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:42 (fifteen years ago)

'm American, so I'd never even heard of him before this

lol!

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:43 (fifteen years ago)

Man, you'd feel so cheated if you had Tourette's but not the cool sweary version.

Landon Donovan Glory (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:43 (fifteen years ago)

Especially if you're a goalkeeper and you just got landed with the twitchy one.

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:44 (fifteen years ago)

My last go at a predictor ended up with Argentina beating Brazil in the final and Spain beating USA in the 3rd place play-off. Can't remember exactly how I got there now.

WHO HAS THE PHALLUS? Not you (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:44 (fifteen years ago)

lol jaymc

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:44 (fifteen years ago)

but does not involve the stereotypical verbal outbursts.

this had been confirmed by the british press approx 10 mins after he first signed for man utd, but en massse it's been conveniently ignored in service to lols tbh

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:45 (fifteen years ago)

Howard cursed by Insufficiently Funny Tourettes Syndrome

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:48 (fifteen years ago)

does not involve the stereotypical verbal outbursts.

I'm sure if British football fans were made aware of this they'd modify their chants accordingly

haha xp

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:48 (fifteen years ago)

Timmay!

Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:49 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder if, in the silent movie era, the uncontrollable twitching was considered to be the hilarious side of Tourettes, and the profane outbursts just bizarre

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:50 (fifteen years ago)

Don't have to go that far back, though I suppose no-one here knows who Alf Ippititimus was

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)

"Another singular thing about Howard: he has Tourette's syndrome, a disorder of the nervous system that manifests itself in facial jerks, spasms, and involuntary tics. The intense focus he is required to summon in games moderates his symptoms, and often cancels them altogether. (When the ball is safely away from the goal, his tics will sometimes emerge.) But in conversation he repeatedly clears his throat, blinks, and stammers; his neck tightens and his cheeks twitch. He refuses to take any medication for fear that it will make him "zombielike" and impair his motor skills. 'I'm very adrenaline-filled, and I wouldn't want to suppress that,' he told me. 'I like the way I am. If I woke up tomorrow without Tourette's, I wouldn't know what to do with myself.'

"Howard says it's possible that Tourette's actually helps him in goal, that it makes him more alert and reactive. 'Some people with Tourette's syndrome seem to have an unusual somatic empathy,' Dr. James Leckman, of Yale, who has published widely about the syndrome, says. 'They tell me that they sense things in the body movements of others that the rest of us screen out, some signal or vibration, some sensory cue. It's almost like they can see what's going to happen before it happens.' Tourette's is characterized by a buildup of anxiety and neurological tension, sometimes intensified by certain kinds of sensory overload--a not implausible description for the state of mind required for competitive goalkeeping."

jaymc, Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:56 (fifteen years ago)

Goddam Jack Douglas was terrible in every Carry On movie he ruined.

Landon Donovan Glory (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:56 (fifteen years ago)

He was dire

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

did the isner game conclude yet btw?

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

AGUANTE, ALBIRROJA!

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:58 (fifteen years ago)

xp Starts in a half-hour!

jaymc, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

ah, thanks jaymc

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

now to see if my computer can cope with three streams :)

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

lolling at tennis fans bragging about two bored giants hitting aces at each other when they could be watching england beat slovenia by 1 goal to zero goals.

caek, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

what games today and when?

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

Adidas boots 0.126 goals per pair
Nike boots 0.083 goals per pair
Puma boots 0.081 goals per pair

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

Slovakia v Italy and NZ v Paraguay on RIGHT NOW

xpost

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)

adidas balls .015 goals per shot

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i figured ailsa, but no live updates wtf u guys less of the slacking

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

Denmark v Japan and Cameroon v Nedderlands tonight.

Italy v Slovakia = yawnsville this far, also Jim Beglin is sending me to sleep. Hang on while I change channel...no scoring over there either.

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

So, Italy are really really bad huh?

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

Fucking Lawrenson last night with his endless lame puns and jokes... he should be on ILX

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

How does Italy get away with shit that has been consistently carded against all other teams?

A Picture Where Dorian's Gay (S-), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

Howard Webb is reffing the Italy game so hopefully he'll do something comically stupid.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

Lawro would be asking us who was playing and what the scores were, and then making some sarcastic comments and awful tho strangely embittered quips.

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

I saw two minutes in the canteen and Slovakia had a big chance with someone clear through and sclaffing a volley.

WHO HAS THE PHALLUS? Not you (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

That was Hamsik the Napoli wunderkid

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

sclaffing, mind you

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

So if both games are scoreless Italy and NZ draw lots apparently.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

lol japanese ref appears to be blind and overly polite.

A Picture Where Dorian's Gay (S-), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

Italy out then?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

Slovakia 1-0 up, lol Italian defence

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

oh announcer guy: "here comes skrtl, on an 'exkrsion'"

haha italy

156, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

Vitek 1-0 to Slovakia

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

oh dear, italy.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

oh dear, the keeper just kinda fell over

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

keep em coming guys

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

De Rossi decided it was a good idea to square the ball to a Slovakian just outside the penalty area.......it wasn't.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

quickfire poll

who is worse

italy
france

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

As it stands
Paraguay 5pts
Slovakia 4pts
New Zealand 3pts
ITALY 2pts

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

amazing

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

France no Italy no wow that is such a hard call

xp

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

Cannavaro yellow card

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

at least with france there was the element of dischord in the camp, with italy they're just not up to it

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

Apologies to Paraguay but this is an unbelievably shitty group

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

Adidas boots 0.126 goals per pair

All Day I Dream About Scoring...

display-name aesthete (snoball), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah Italy just devoid of talent/ideas apparently
xp

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

Cannavaro trying to get his second yellow but Howard Webb not playing along,yet.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:34 (fifteen years ago)

Usually, with English referees in World Cups, you need three yellows to get sent off anyway

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

Btw this is all Slovakia so far. Zero response from Italy since the goal

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

I apologise for suggesting this was yawnsville. It's fairly picked up after the first few minutes (depending on the entertainment value you derive from Italy being rubbish)

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

Italy are unbeaten in the last five World Cup matches in which they conceded the first goal.

The John Higgins of football nations.

WHO HAS THE PHALLUS? Not you (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

:D @ this score so far.

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

An equaliser would actually send Italy thru' on goals scored at the moment. Of course they might need to move within shooting distance first.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

Skrtel just had Italy's best attempt on goal, just over

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

Obviously jealous of Agger's own goal

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

The John Higgins of football nations.

at least higgins isn't a dirty ch... ~oh~

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

tbf too much uefa teams

honestly i think ecuador/colombia/venezuela would do better than slovakia/slovenia/

egypt and turkey out hurts me too

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

ewwwwwww.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

holy shit, what a gash!

gattuso kicks a slovak

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

Gattuso doing as Gattuso does. Leaving a Slovak bleeding and bruised. But tbf he got ball first.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

looks about 2 inches wide, 1 inch deep

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

Just got in and I can't tell whether I should've watched this from the start or not.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)

how the hell can he play on?!

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

Strba stretchered off and subbed, oh he wants to come back on so sub cancelled

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

IK it's been pretty desperate stuff tbh

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

holy shit what a gash

^ how i wish a commentator had said this ^

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

Paraguay/NZ scoreless at h-t

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

tbf too much uefa teams

honestly i think ecuador/colombia/venezuela would do better than slovakia/slovenia/

― moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:42 (41 seconds ago) Bookmark

slovenia beat russia to qualify, who are a far better side than any of those

there are several fairly good european sides who didn't qualify for various reasons - croatia, turkey, belgium, bosnia, ireland(!)

nakhchivan, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

Not sure any of those teams are that good. Croatia were dire in qualifying.

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)

they are either good teams or have good players

nakhchivan, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

Montolivo with a laughably bad volley. Half time.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

i mean ireland couldn't beat italy/france ffs, how could they deserve to be at the world cup?

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

lol gattuso. hey 'murikkkans, this is a proper footballer

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

Also Isner/Mahut now 61-60 so Mahut serving to stay in match for the 55th(?) time

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

hey 'murikkkans, this is a proper footballer

ssssh you'll kill the new market before it's even begun tbh

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

btw happy 23rd birthday lionel messi

156, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

xp yeah, keep telling them they need to get their athletes to play. once they realise it doesn't work they way we're fucked.

caek, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

w/ the sound off, itv's coverage looks decent

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)

a 1-0 win for NZ with a 1-0 win for slovakia would take NZ and paraguay through right?

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

Also Isner/Mahut now 61-60 so Mahut serving to stay in match for the 55th(?) time

He'd have served at 4-5 to stay in so 57th - and he held :)

WHO HAS THE PHALLUS? Not you (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

are oz fans supporting nz? or is it a scotland thing?

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

nostalgia for ilx sub-communities past, RIP dunedin crew

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

Okay, from what I've seen now my earlier salivating over Italy-Holland round two was a bit out. Italy don't look even slightly like coming back from this. Tbh Slovakia-Holland would grace the competition better anyway. Hell, bring on France-Honduras.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

are oz fans supporting nz? or is it a scotland thing?

I think it would be more like Englanders when they say they are supporting Scotland

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

:D happy italian woman shaking her lady parts on telly

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

xp yeah

"oy'll cheah for them oirish boys, they laave the crack ha ha"

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

Gattus0 subbed off for a striker btw

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

but why? 'the growler' is the only reason to enjoy a pirlo/totti/cassano/delpieroetc.-less italy!

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

nice bit of 'kicking the keeper for no reason other than meh i'm italian' there.

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

Iaquinta with a terrible header from a good chance. Also one of Mick McCarthy's "big tarts" seems to be in goal for Slovakia.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

a hoy hoy Italy Pirlo-less no longer!

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

di natalol

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

Although it really needs Davis Pleat on the co commentary calling him Purr-lo to bring back that 2006 feeling

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

hamsik's hair is a thing of wonder.

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

siiiiiiiiiiiik innit

nakhchivan, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

Pirhaha

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

Judging solely on the 2 2/3 games I've seen Italy's older players are past it and their younger ones are crap.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

let's be having hard facts, facts and nothing more /gradgrind

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

Literally, "plays of May" the Maggio drammatico refers to medieval musical and dramatic rituals at planting time in central Italy, typical of many agrarian societies. Their origins, however, are certainly prehistoric. In the case of these central Italian rituals, the combination of song, text and drama has been speculated to be one of the origins of Italian opera, born in the workshops of the Florentine Camerata.

^^^wiki-ing an italy player, seems a bit otm, esp. the prehistoric bit.

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

best two young italian players aren't here. or their two most exciting forwards. buffon is injured. cannavaro makes chiellini look shit. but yeah, all in all, shit.

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

Their origins, however, are certainly prehistoric.

... current Italian defence amirite?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

http://img.terra.com.br/i/2010/06/24/1581886-7792-atm14.jpg

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

Sorry darragh. Nothing of note happening although there was a goalmouth scramble in the NZ area that led to nothing. DiNatali had a soft shot for Italy but they aren't playing with any sort of 'behind with 25 mins to go in a Cup tie' desperation.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

who would have thought that italy would need giuseppi rossi more than the usa in this world cup?

mizzell, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

who would have thought that italy would need giuseppi rossi more than the usa in this world cup?

― mizzell, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:24 (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol forgot about him in my 'didn't take two best strikers'

italy have a shot cleared off the line by skrtel!

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

Oh Skrtel clears off the line!

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

ha, was totally in as well!

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

Sorry darragh.

sheepish lol @ ur good manners tbh

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

skrtelol my favorite pokemon

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

Surely that was in?! Surprised no one was appealing

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

Paraguay don't seem to be playing that well. But NZ can't keep possession well enough to score. Grr.

VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

Itv trying hard not to question the English linesman

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

Slovakia on break lash a shot couple of yards wide. Italy starting to press now and leaving gaps at the back

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.mahq.net/gunion/images/squirtle.jpg

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

lol good luck nz and all but slovakia-holland seems like a game i'd want to watch, whereas nz-holland just seems like a highlights reel i wouldn't mind catching.

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

btw i can't believe that ilx didn't go mental at glen johnson's 12 dives yesterday? or is because englishmen don't dive?

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

didn't see em tbh

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

in fact, eng seemed to have cut down on the dives from the prev two games

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

Huge gaps btw - Slovakia are pissing these breaks up the wall

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

fuck off with good luck nz. they're so workmanlike and anti-football. Paraguay at least have a bit of attack to them.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

It's the proverbial 'end to end stuff' now. But with not much quality.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

pirlo's totally dead

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

2-0

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

wooooooooooo! italy are out!

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

CIAO

iatee, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

now who won 2006 world cup? fabio grosso was the best player on that team @ semi and finals.

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

Corner Slovakia.
2-0 Vittek

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

Cannavaro almost certainly not going to win Ballon D'or.

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

lol

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

Ha ha!

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

i bet on gilardino to be top scorer. hahahahahaha

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

So NZ need a goal to go thru' otherwise Paraguay and SVK

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

waht

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

ffs italy

Guru Meditation (Ste), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

top scorer only needs to be top 4 so you need 3 goals or whatever sometimes. reckoned they'd get to quarters at least and the price was amazing. ah well.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

lol at justifying myself

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

Pepe now decides to take almighty swipe at Slovak. Yellow.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

Meant to stick a few quid on Forlan at 12/1 when I was out earlier - Uruguay seem a decent bet to give him seven games for the scorin'

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

Darragh, if NZ get winner vs Paraguay they're thru'
xp

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

what's craig burley talking about

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

what's craig burley talking about

grade A cunt, i hate him.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

But seems unlikely as they've hardly been out of their own half from what little I've seen
xp

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

what do NZ care if slovakia score 2 against italy, if NZ nick one here they're through and so are paraguay

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

wtf that wasn't offside was it? saveaEnglishlinesman

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

@ gazzetta dello sport

http://images2.gazzettaobjects.it/Hermes%20Foto/2010/06/24/0L4IXWLP--620x300.jpg?v=201006241709

Il raddoppio di Vittek
Live: Slovacchia-Italia 2-0
Doppietta di Vittek: ora per restare ai Mondiali serve un miracolo. Skrtel salva sulla linea sull'1-0...

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

2-1!

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

Beautiful goal. 2-1.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

2-1 DiNatale

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

Beautiful 1-2 on edge off box, goalie saves, rebound despatched.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

This should be the best ten minutes of the tournament coming up.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

*of*

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

BBC Radio 5 live's David Pleat at Ellis Park:
"I think the officials made a brilliant decision and we shall have to wait and see. No doubt the Italian journalists will say it was over the line but we all get a bit patriotic at these times."

^BBC Radio 5 live's David Pleat getting a bit patriotic about the officials

WHO HAS THE PHALLUS? Not you (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

Also pile in in back of the net after the goal

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

we shall have to wait and see about what, exactly?

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

dramaglioni

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

whether it was over the line or not darragh

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

2-2 No! Offside!

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

wow

Grisly Addams (WmC), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

Marginal!

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

pleat is in a studio, though? i'd imagine he's got access to replays the same as you lot, and you all seem fairly certain it was in?

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

OMG offside

Jarlrmai, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

omg <333333333333333333 refs

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

lol italy btw xps

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

This lino HATES Italy lol

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

that wasnt offside

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

so we're looking at 3-2 italy win basically

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

idk why italy stuck with martin crane

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

Slovakia need some england style corner flag action here

Jarlrmai, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

pleat is in a studio, though? i'd imagine he's got access to replays the same as you lot, and you all seem fairly certain it was in?

He is a true patriot

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

This started getting more exciting since i turned over to watch two men playing chicken on a tennis court (now just gone over 11 hours)

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

lol ref's assistant <3's football, has long memory imo

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

if italy goes out i think they and france should hold a TOURNAMENTS BIGGEST DUMBEST LOSERS playoff

max, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

wow my radio stream is waaay behind this thread

Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

xxxposts Couldn't tell for sure either way Darragh.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

Sorrel - probably in, but impossible to see
That offside - definitely offside, but by inches

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

Sorrel = Skrtel

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

quagrelolololola

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

3-1

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

3-1

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

BEAUTY!!!!!! FUCK

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

3-1

Jarlrmai, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

YES!

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

AWESOME

Jarlrmai, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

Sub w/ first touch

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

Robbed in 2002, won in 2006, robbed lolled in 2010.

WHO HAS THE PHALLUS? Not you (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

well i suppose italy can moan all they want but there's no way this italian side deserve to win if the other team scores 3

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

"Farewell Cannavaro, your great career has been terminated"

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

arrivederci

Jarlrmai, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

fucks sake tyldsley

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

great fucking goal

Guru Meditation (Ste), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

beautiful!

max, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

:DDDDDDDD

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

Great finish!

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

tennis is over too

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

i didn't even see it, isner is at breakpoint but :DDDDD

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

lols to Onimo

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

if italy goes out i think they and france should hold a TOURNAMENTS BIGGEST DUMBEST LOSERS playoff

― max, 24 June 2010 15:44 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

some1 2 get on this STAT imo

xp oh looooooooooooooool

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

arrivederci

More like 'addio' for most of these raggazzi

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

sorry match point! wooooooo!

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

clown

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

3-2!

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

whoa

max, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

Needs a goal for nz now for max lols

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

wait, what?

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

3-2

Jarlrmai, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

what a fkn game

r|t|c, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

2 minutes?

maybe not addio

Jarlrmai, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

both of those goals were beauties

max, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

3-2, and the tennis is finally over.

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

oh ffs get up goalkeeper

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

who won tennis?

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

Isner

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

isner

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

Recorded second half of this because i knew I'd get suckered into the tennis, will be rewinding and watching as soon as it finishes.

xpost Isner, 70-68 in the final set, just over 11 hours

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

daniel sturridge won the tennis

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

isner won 3-2 at the bridge

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

NZ game finished 0-0

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

Best afternoon ever, thank fuck for half-days!

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

ah i took the wrong afternoon off yesterday, huh?

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

lol xp

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

italy not liking the play acting ;_;

r|t|c, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

missed!

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

subs? he's just gonna add mo time.

slovaks down all over the place.

Jarlrmai, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

plolpe

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

was that a great tackle?

Jarlrmai, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

No completely shanked the volley

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

is cannavaro retiring from club football as well after this?

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

qatar iirc

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

surely gotta blow up now?

Jarlrmai, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

Lippi walks off...

Jarlrmai, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

Over. Italy out. Cannavaro has "disappeared forever" according to Drury.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

aw should have ended his career 4 years ago

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

Cannavero v dignified tbf

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

europe sux imo

glad i'm moving to another continent ASAP tbh

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

NZ unbeaten at the World Cup

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

WHEEEEEE, so glad to get rid of another euro 'powerhouse'

max, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

europe sux imo

africa sux even more tho

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

wtf u can't judge a whole continent lieke that mayne

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

NZ unbeaten at the World Cup

Pride

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

Awesome.

That other Euro 'powerhouse', Eng, are one step closer.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

No, he said "powerhouse"

Kiitën (admrl), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

european poorhouse imo

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

As opposed to shithouse

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

Italy paying the price for leaving out Aquilani, imo.

Stevie T, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

Haha listening to the radio feed was crazy. My head's still spinning.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

I said Euro, not euro

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

h8 england too

max, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

kind of wtf that it took so long for NZ to figure out that they actually needed a goal to win. Srsly, waiting til almost stoppage time? Weird.

VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/48165000/jpg/_48165239_mu126.jpg

Kiitën (admrl), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

So do the English. xps

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

http://twitter.com/fabiocannavaro

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

      gigi
santon gamberini chiellini crispsito
de rossi beard
pirlo
balolteloli cassano
the yank

^^^^^world cup winning team better than nz imo

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

I feel a wee bit sorry for NZ, tbh. Still, Italoly.

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.gazzetta.it/ BACK HOME ASHAMED or something like that

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

In pure shock...cant believe what happened! Italy showed how good they r only in the last 20 minutes of the game..futbol is very strange!
7 minutes ago via web

GiuseppeRossi22
GIUSEPPE ROSSI

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

5 - Italy have conceded six shots on target and five goals. Holidays

1970 - This is the first time that Italy have conceded three goals in a #worldcup game since 1970 when they lost 1-4 to Brazil. Trio.

WHO HAS THE PHALLUS? Not you (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

^from opta tweets

WHO HAS THE PHALLUS? Not you (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, I think Italy showed exactly how good they are in the first 70 mins

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

lolling @ rossi, should have come w/ us, son

Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

"Stupidly, the English have slipped up a little by finishing second in their group," said German great Beckenbauer.
http://www.hot.ee/bond007jamesbond/Blofeld1.JPG

Kiitën (admrl), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

he's terrified

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

Der Kaiser's been taking pelters for that interview all day, despite being otm throughout

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

Italy have conceded six shots on target and five goals.

Basically losing Buffon cost them their place as the other bloke doesn't seem to do the saving thing.

WHO HAS THE PHALLUS? Not you (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

"Are you an English keeper in disguise?"

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

England only conceded one goal, to themselves

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

'stupidly' in the beckenbauer quote is mistranslated, apparently- it should be "unfortunately, but due to their own actions"

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:21 (fifteen years ago)

"like a passel of cosseted fancy-boy morons"

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

or "unfortunately", they're synonyms basically

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

it's a pretty good definition of stupidity tbf

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:26 (fifteen years ago)

http://s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/original/2010/06/24/chamada_italia5_620.jpg

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)

ozil's mild-mannered quote must have been mistranslated also, as daily mail says it has begun a war of words.
Mesut Ozil, scorer of the only goal against Ghana on Wednesday night, said: ‘It’s going to be really difficult against England. They are clearly stronger than Ghana and they will give us a harder game.'But we are extremely strong and if we can play with our strongest team then I’m sure that we will win this match.’

mizzell, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:29 (fifteen years ago)

them's fighting words

WHO HAS THE PHALLUS? Not you (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:30 (fifteen years ago)

Thomas Bangalter, scorer of the only goal against Ghana on Wednesday night, said: ‘It’s going to be really difficult against England. They are clearly better than Ghana and they will give us a harder game.'But we are extremely faster and if we can play with our stronger team then I’m sure that we will win this match.’

voodoo sailor (ken c), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:45 (fifteen years ago)

Uh, hello it's the Daily Mail! Starting wars of words is their bread and butter.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:46 (fifteen years ago)

Xpost haha

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:48 (fifteen years ago)

oh lol

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:51 (fifteen years ago)

Best afternoon ever, thank fuck for half-days!

Bah, had a fecking dental appointment and I missed all the excitement. Shame that Dom P's sb couldn't have been rescinded for one day.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Thursday, 24 June 2010 17:07 (fifteen years ago)

you know he will still be reading this thread anyway

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 24 June 2010 17:10 (fifteen years ago)

game smell game

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 17:12 (fifteen years ago)

Hoping not to hear much "32 teams far too much for the WC theres all kinds of onesided matches that just sap our concentration wah" from Big Nations in the future hee hee.

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 24 June 2010 17:12 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, stfu Slovakia

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 17:19 (fifteen years ago)

xps thank you ken

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 17:20 (fifteen years ago)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/48167000/jpg/_48167555_fans466.jpg

caek, Thursday, 24 June 2010 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

LOVED YOU IN THE BICYCLE THIEF

Kiitën (admrl), Thursday, 24 June 2010 17:25 (fifteen years ago)

one day he will be a real boy

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 17:25 (fifteen years ago)

lol xp

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 17:25 (fifteen years ago)

THIEVES

(damn)

Kiitën (admrl), Thursday, 24 June 2010 17:25 (fifteen years ago)

and conmebol SLUMP to below 2.6 on anatol's moullet-sponsored point-average confed chart, now with three decimals!:

CONMEBOL 2.538
UEFA 1.333
CONCACAF 1.125
AFC+OFC 1.077
CAF 0.688

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 24 June 2010 17:29 (fifteen years ago)

dom's thoughts: http://ichlugebullets.wordpress.com/2010/06/24/italy_vs_slovakia/

caek, Thursday, 24 June 2010 17:38 (fifteen years ago)

Ah, he's been finesseing that for weeks

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 17:44 (fifteen years ago)

below 2.6?

ohhhhhh, paraguay ):

chile'll beat spain tho

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)

Clearly not cupholders

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:07 (fifteen years ago)

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0fot7lpeD92wU/610x.jpg

caek, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

lol italy drew against a team with this guy in

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04OIg5l5Ef1mM/x610.jpg

caek, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

Right, Denmark v Japan, Holland v Cameroon. What say ye? Which should I watch? Denmark v Japan, aye?

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

denmark v japon clearly

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:23 (fifteen years ago)

I'm going with Denmark/Japan

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

Husband says Holland v Cameroon, so presumably he thinks it's still 1990. I'm over-ruling him, and hope to have made the right call.

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:26 (fifteen years ago)

tell your husband

Group E: The Netherlands are through and will confirm top spot if they avoid defeat against already-eliminated Cameroon. The Dutch will be joined by Japan if they avoid defeat against Denmark. The Danes will take second spot if they win.

caek, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

p.s. love this bit of the world cup

Group H: If Spain beat Chile, they will go through. If the Spaniards lose, they will go out if Switzerland draw with Honduras, or if the South Americans win heavily. Spain are also out if they draw and Switzerland beat Honduras. Chile need to avoid defeat to go through. If Chile lose to Spain by a single goal, Switzerland will only qualify if they beat Honduras by at least two goals, having lost to the Chileans in their group game.

caek, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

Husband says Holland v Cameroon, so presumably he thinks it's still 1990

lol good one

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

How long ago is it that Nakamura played for Celtic?

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

Argh I can't decide on DEN vs JPN... I admit to finding JPN pretty noninspiring as a WC cheering object, but the whole nation of DEN, esp under Morten Olsen, has for decades been such shits twds Norway and Norwegian football, while stealing all our good ideas, that I'm seriously conflicted here...

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

re Nakamura - just a year ago. Went to Espanyol, didn't do much, returned to Japan for the second half of the season.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

Btw Holland appear to be wearing white shirts and blue shorts? Since when?

xp thx Merdeyeux

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

Denmark are marvelously Fifa PS2, scamper down the wing and cross.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

Ref looks determined to fuck it up in DEN-JAP, imo

StanM, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

Booked for time wasting after 11 minutes. A record surely?

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:43 (fifteen years ago)

shoulda aimed for his head

iatee, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:43 (fifteen years ago)

whoa japon should have scored

Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

they wore it in 2006 too
http://nederlandselftal.punt.nl/upload/spelers/nieuweshirtsoranje.jpg
xxp

mizzell, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

Japan through them twice like a knife through bacon

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:46 (fifteen years ago)

Fuck!!

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

woah!

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

WOW

if, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

What a free kick! =+lolgoalie

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

He just stepped up and Lego

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

Had been bigging this one up on the grounds that I keep hearing awesomeness reporting on Honda. Good old me.

(I had pointed out the pointlessness of NEDCAM so I won the channel choice, yay me)

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

best goal so far?

Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:49 (fifteen years ago)

Also pwned to the commentator's questioning what the hell he was thinking taking a shot from there-"Does he think he's Ronaldo?"

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:50 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuUaJtnTVOQ

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:50 (fifteen years ago)

Best individual goal prob. There have been some cracking team goals.
xp

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

entertaining game so far

iatee, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:52 (fifteen years ago)

Hang on, I have been under the impression England v Germany is on Sunday?

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, right, commentator realises he's talking shite as I hit submit. Licence fee well spent again.

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

lol

Guru Meditation (Ste), Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

I thought Saturday - what is the second round schedule?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

Hm, shouldn't've pressed submit myself

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

second yellow card for time wasting: wtf, ref?

StanM, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

This timewasting stuff - bit harsh, no?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

It's a very good game so far, quality goal, two very well matched teams - but this referee...

William Bloody Swygart, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

And again.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

Was going to be Saturday if they'd won the group, but is now Sunday afternoon thanks to Landon Donovan spoiling yesterday afternoon's chuntering. Jonathan Pearce (is that who it is?) has temporarily gone batshit and has been encouraging mass sickies the length of the country on Tuesday afternoon. No idea why.

xposts

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

ref just wants goals dammit

iatee, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

If the last twenty mins is Denmark raking an eight-man japan I will feel cheated

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, so we can all watch Spain v Portugal. Nice (I'm away on my holidays next week, will find friendly world cup bar asap)

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

Ha!

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

wonderful

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

good lord!

ripe dick clark (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

:0

Stevie T, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

And again with the free kick.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

awesome

iatee, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

omg don't fking believe it LOLOL !!!!!!

Guru Meditation (Ste), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

amazing

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

<3 Japan. Awesome! (bring on Naka to do it properly though, eh :-))

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

can't blame sørensen for that one

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

Nothing wrong with the ball apparently.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

So, this ball, eh?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

Was going to be Saturday if they'd won the group, but is now Sunday afternoon thanks to Landon Donovan spoiling yesterday afternoon's chuntering. Jonathan Pearce (is that who it is?) has temporarily gone batshit and has been encouraging mass sickies the length of the country on Tuesday afternoon. No idea why.

xposts
--ailsa

Steve Wilson is the commentator at the moment. I have trouble remembering the difference between him and -

WHAT A GOAL!

- Guy Mowbray.

William Bloody Swygart, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

Cheers, WBS. Was actually going to say Mowbray initially, but I knew it wasn't him but couldn't remember which other non-Motty it was.

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

really enjoying this one

get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

van Injury's scored over in the other game.

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

van injury 1-0

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

xp

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

japan just look awesome, and in their last matches too.

Guru Meditation (Ste), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:08 (fifteen years ago)

Meaow Keown re. Bendtner."Is he out there?"

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

Can't be arsed opening entire thread and have arsed up my bookmarks, did you lol earlier at Bendtner colouring his bandage in with a felt tip pen to match his socks?

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

ppl have been sleeping on japan

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

not sure he meant the first fk tho :)

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

Japan's technique is really sharp, not just on the freekicks - all manner of sweet passing too. And it's not Denmark are bad, either - just Japan really have their tails up.

William Bloody Swygart, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:16 (fifteen years ago)

japan did play a bunch of lousy friendlies against serbia, england, ivory coast leading up to this, what a scam

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

Now Redknapp trolling Bedntner

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

Nothing wrong with the ball apparently.

wz thinking this at at least two goals in SVK-ITA, the ball appears to have been gotten used to somewhat :)

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

Bendtner even

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

They were great goals you boring bastards!

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

Even if they'd had another man in the wall it would have gone over him Shearer and Hansen you fools.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

Liked Shearer seeming to imply JDT had done nothing since leaving Newcastle.

William Bloody Swygart, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah Milan, who they?

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

Great goals, great first half.

Can't be arsed opening entire thread and have arsed up my bookmarks

Can you have multiple bookmarks in the same thread? How does that work? Also, while we're on the subject, how do you link to particular post in a thread (as opposed to the start of the whole thread)?

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

You click the permalink button at that post and use the URL for that one.

No, I had a bookmark on this thread from before I went to have my dinner, but seem to have removed it.

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)

Okay, what are bookmarks and why do I need them?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

You can start again at the point you last checked the thread, even if it is in the middle of 344543 unread messages so that the thread just opens from where you bookmarked it.

Gary Lineker has forgotten who the commentators are as well. Well done BBC. I am worried about the fact that ITV are doing this better (except the whole outage during matches thing).

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:33 (fifteen years ago)

pretty handy for long threads, if you know by the next time you come back it will be hundreds of new posts.

Guru Meditation (Ste), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

That humourless Shearer put-down of Thomasson - I bet he talks like that constantly off-camera

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

just off with this asshole already

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

c.poulsen that is

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

Thanks chaps - can see why that might be useful

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

David Seaman revisited

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

Ha - that *would* have been a goalie error

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

"His career, for me, is passing him by" - so yeah, Keown has previous with Bendtner, then.

William Bloody Swygart, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

Shot of Rigobert Song on the bench at the Ned-Cam game looking like an extra from Battlefield Earth.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

Okay, what are bookmarks and why do I need them?
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:32 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

how have u even been doing this thread I don't even

: P

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

thought japan were OK in their recent friendly with scotland, obviously sandbagging

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

japan sublime to watch

Guru Meditation (Ste), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

I live here.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

yeah football threads (the main ones anyway) would seem fucking impossible to read without bookmarks. ismael, this is going to make ilx so much easier for you!

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

this thread has made me a bookmarks believer, now I use them everywhere

Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

Are we doing a new thread for the knock out stages?

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

top tip for bookmark non-usage - not bothering to read anything before the cut.

will we be moving to a second thread for the knockout stages? I'm a forgetful bookmarker and we are getting to the point of my computer being shaky when I open the whole thing. oy xpost.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

lol agger does he think he's honda

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

I mostly just scroll forward from my own most recent post, that works pretty well (but then I do post a lot)

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

ismael, my friend, let me tell u bout a little thing called customisable site new answers

~puts arm round IK~

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

Bendtner should be afforded the same 'but he's injured!' shit that Rooney is getting. And he's scored more than Rooney in this WC.

/sam

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

am I being groomed?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

penalty to Cameroon. score or miss?

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

Cameroon have a penalty, btw (handball). And...1-1

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

is Bendtner injured or did he just draw the blood on with his red marker

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

lol

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

jon lol tommasson

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

How do you fuck that one up?

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

gonna love agger as a hodgson player

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

Robben about to make an appearance for the Neds.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

damn neds get everywhere

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

oh ffs agger

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

penalty, really?

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

ugh

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

I say scores

WHO HAS THE PHALLUS? Not you (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

I go with onimo;)

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

soft as shit pen award

WHO HAS THE PHALLUS? Not you (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

lol dunno if that counts

WHO HAS THE PHALLUS? Not you (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

Ooh, cracking finale.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

He wanted to score from open play obvs

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

worst pen ever

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

he really tried to put that rebound off target too

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

terrible ref in this japan denmark game.

howard webb was fantastic in the italy game btw.

caek, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

Klaas Jan Huntelaar 2-1 over on the other side.

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

haha tomasson broke himself with that rocket of a shot

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

Wanna see that shot against the bar again!

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

(well-taken on the rebound after Robben rattled the post)

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

Rebound from a swerving Robben shot off post
xpost

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

(yet another) cracking shot from Robben

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

Japan I <3 you!

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

beautiful

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

Lovely lovely

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

love this team xp !!!

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

Man. Sorenson sucks.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

bushido blade thru butter

quick fast like Rommedahl (zvookster), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

Cracking game, criminal if Denmark had equalised.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

3 fantastic goals from japan

iatee, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

damn son

caek, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

Japan I <3

doubles as a score update :)

WHO HAS THE PHALLUS? Not you (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

Love Kawashima telling his own defender to get up.

Ooh, Honda. Hot damn, Japan-Paraguay will be such a good watch.

William Bloody Swygart, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

Honda just magnificent there

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

uruguay vs south korea
paraguay vs japan

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

no it doesn't

xpost to myself

I<3 Japan

WHO HAS THE PHALLUS? Not you (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

fancy japan to take paraguay

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

yay japan

^____^

flapjackin (gbx), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

honda reminding me of zidane 06 atm /hyperbole

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

that was rad

get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

Banzai!

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

oh 'arry :)

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

(many xps)
Thanks Ailsa. I've never clicked the 'permalink' thing before. I thought it was part of the 'suggest ban' thing (which I've also never clicked).

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

sb'd you for that

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

terrific stuff from japan

Michael B, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

sb'd you for that
I'll permalink you if you're not careful

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

ok it's maybe past time for Donovan-goal-hangover-posts, but I just saw this link to the Univision (US Spanish language TV) call of his game-winner, and it's kinda amazing tbh

http://www.fanaticos.com/2010/06/23/asi-narro-andres-cantor-el-gol-de-landon-donovan/?sms_ss=facebook

(gotta click the red thingy to play)

Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

I only post to ilx as something to do while I'm waiting to sb the next idiotic post I come across

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

xpost

jeez, that's one of the greatest things I've heard this year. The third gooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllll just cracked me up.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:36 (fifteen years ago)

otm, that's brilliant, brough a massive smile to my face anyway

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

is he trying to harmonize with the vuvuzelas?

caek, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe Harry Redknapp - who claims to not be a tax-evading fraudster - can turn up and explain the difference between saying you're the best in the world and saying "I want to be the best in the world".

James Mitchell, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

Although, that said, hopefully Arsene's popped round to Bendtner's and changed the locks.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

I hope South African TV goes around London interviewing the homeless if England do get the 2018 WC.

Venga, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

this honda guy owns

moullet, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

I think I'm right in saying that all the Arsenal players at the World Cup are now home, apart from Cesc and Arsenal's Joe Cole.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)

And Bendtner, who's fiddling with his keys and wondering why he can't get in.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)

Is Vela not still an Arsenalite?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

James, Robin Van Injury is still there. Unless he's broken again.

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

Knew I'd forgotten Arsenal's most important player, and RvP.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 24 June 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

Should have been checking for updates at the Carlos Vela News blog.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 24 June 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

This sounds kind of corny now that I'm writing it down, but I liked this: Landon Donovan was on Dan Patrick show this morning; DP asked him how big the goal looked as he was running towards it to make the shot...LD replied "As big as the ocean".

VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 24 June 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

wtf at 'Arry's shock that a "country like Japan" can produce a player like Honda.

Chris, Thursday, 24 June 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

For the next WC, Japan should send a team of ASIMOs.

display-name aesthete (snoball), Thursday, 24 June 2010 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

Eboué's still there too. But you're basically correct, some of Arsenal players are indeed out of the world cup

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 24 June 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

Think Ki Sung Yeung's the only Celtic player left in, since we've punted Edson Braafheid's slow useless sorry on-loan arse back out the door.

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

Here are the highlights of the one game that Japan lost, to the Netherlands, not a bad side at all and it looks like they only lost it narrowly. I reckon they could beat Paraguay.

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/highlights/video/video=1250821/index.html

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Thursday, 24 June 2010 21:19 (fifteen years ago)

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs039.snc4/34316_595782934090_2907292_34100464_3944423_n.jpg

Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Thursday, 24 June 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)

BROS BUDDING BROS

hi bianca :x (cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

Mark Lawrenson just described Eljero Elia as "the young black boy". Hmm.

Chris, Thursday, 24 June 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)

dan m i think andrés cantor is at telemundo now? in any case, awesome link, thank you, just sent it to my dad

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 June 2010 23:25 (fifteen years ago)

love that it is kinda hard to find a picture of cantor where he is not making this face
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.droxy.com/media/2005/08/Andres-Cantor.jpg

mizzell, Thursday, 24 June 2010 23:31 (fifteen years ago)

Clinton lookin' good there.

jaymc, Thursday, 24 June 2010 23:36 (fifteen years ago)

Dom P on Italy (full and frank as ever): http://ichlugebullets.wordpress.com/2010/06/24/italy_vs_slovakia/

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 23:55 (fifteen years ago)

Linked above.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 June 2010 00:00 (fifteen years ago)

Sorry. Sans bookmarking it's not something a lot of people will see now! But yeah, remonstration accepted.

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 00:02 (fifteen years ago)

For some reason I thought Univision had sole broadcast rights, so Cantor would be working there? Oh well. I haven't heard his voice crack like that on a goal call since Charlie Davies scored at the Azteca.

Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 25 June 2010 01:30 (fifteen years ago)

http://blog.wolfram.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/ko_img6.png

idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Friday, 25 June 2010 04:33 (fifteen years ago)

I have a craving for the haters gonna hate vuvuzela gif...Anyone care to repost?

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 25 June 2010 04:51 (fifteen years ago)

Wow, that Wolfram post is amazing for all the predictions that it got completely wrong: http://blog.wolfram.com/2010/06/24/simulating-the-world-cup-knockout-stage/

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 June 2010 04:59 (fifteen years ago)

Or, rather, the data they start off with has been superseded by the last few days' results.

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 June 2010 05:02 (fifteen years ago)

As has the predicitions from the June 2010 issue of Wired, Serbia-Brazil final?

http://sectiondesign.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/wc-mockup-680x473.jpg

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Friday, 25 June 2010 07:06 (fifteen years ago)

http://imgur.com/0GMMR.jpg

An Australian man is being paid thousands of dollars to watch the World Cup inside a giant football equipped with a well-stocked fridge, a games console and a bunk bed.

Adam Santarossa, 23, says his friends are jealous after he was selected by Adidas to spend the month-long tournament watching football, tweeting and writing blogs inside the six-metre (yard) diameter Jabulani ball.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iCRzK63DnGf2RL9NKLoTMjMYvH6A

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 June 2010 07:13 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4dMnAPZu70

crüt it out (dyao), Friday, 25 June 2010 07:43 (fifteen years ago)

aww vuvuzela button doesn't work on embeds :(

crüt it out (dyao), Friday, 25 June 2010 07:43 (fifteen years ago)

dude just use this http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 25 June 2010 07:51 (fifteen years ago)

well...the youtube was in reference to the fact that youtube has started adding vuvuzela buttons to some videos

crüt it out (dyao), Friday, 25 June 2010 07:52 (fifteen years ago)

Quickfire World Cup Poll #15: Who *do* you want to win the World Cup?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 08:40 (fifteen years ago)

No-nonsense midfielder Gennaro Gattuso proved himself no more susceptible to messing about with a microphone in his face than with a ball at his feet as he announced his international retirement after the game. "My farewell was shit," he said, labelling the team "cavalieri della vergogna" — "knights of shame". "We must look ahead. Four years ago we were heroes. Today, we are bollocks. We are shamed. We failed. It is a debacle."

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 09:32 (fifteen years ago)

Bring on the Poles, Turks, Bosnians and Brazilians: How HALF of Germany's World Cup squad are really 'foreigners'

hi bianca :x (cozen), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:33 (fifteen years ago)

Mesut Ozil, 21 - Midfielder born in Germany to German born parents of Turkish origins. Recites verses from the Koran while German national anthem plays.

hi bianca :x (cozen), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:34 (fifteen years ago)

that's such a load of shit

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 09:36 (fifteen years ago)

that's phenomenal, galling rubbish

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:36 (fifteen years ago)

I noticed a couple of the england players praying instead of singing the national anthem when they played algeria; don't see the big deal really

hi bianca :x (cozen), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:36 (fifteen years ago)

What's that from?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:36 (fifteen years ago)

xp

no points for guessing the source of those comments btw

hi bianca :x (cozen), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:37 (fifteen years ago)

Bring on the (new) Germans: Eleven years ago half our rivals' squad would not qualify as citizens under rules introduced by Kaiser

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1289389/World-Cup-2010-England-vs-Germany-new-citizens-make-rivals-team.html

hi bianca :x (cozen), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:37 (fifteen years ago)

The Daily Vile

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:38 (fifteen years ago)

Today, we are bollocks.

Was this the Eurotrash translation?

Michael Jones, Friday, 25 June 2010 09:38 (fifteen years ago)

11 years ago they were 14 years old too, which makes you think

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:38 (fifteen years ago)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/06/24/article-1289389-0A307212000005DC-556_964x347.jpg

hi bianca :x (cozen), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:39 (fifteen years ago)

the cacau factoid is reet funny tho

hi bianca :x (cozen), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:39 (fifteen years ago)

6 "born in Germany"s in those 11 tbh.

Does this mean Wayne Rooney isn't English?

WHO HAS THE PHALLUS? Not you (onimo), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:40 (fifteen years ago)

curious that their defender wears a number 1 shirt and they have no players with german names.

caek, Friday, 25 June 2010 09:41 (fifteen years ago)

Does this mean Wayne Rooney isn't English?

Not enough to ever sing God Save the Queen

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:42 (fifteen years ago)

1. Ashley Cole, born in England to parents of WELL I DON'T KNOW WHAT ORIGIN BUT CERTAINLY NOT ENGLISH AMIRITE LADS.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:43 (fifteen years ago)

I take it they'll print the English version of that table when England are eliminated?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 09:43 (fifteen years ago)

Still, with John Terry playing, at least there will be one Nazi on the pitch on Sunday

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:43 (fifteen years ago)

dislike the naturalization of brazilians/argentinians who wd surely prefer to play for their home teams but aren't good enough (or in the case of deco and marcos senna, were very much good enough but ignored)

the rest of that is sententious racist shit even for the daily mail

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 09:44 (fifteen years ago)

podolski- lol non-german born parents being of german origin doesn't make you german, poxyfule

ozil- lol german-born parents not being of german origin means ur not german, poxyfule

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:45 (fifteen years ago)

Pretty sure all the Germany squad are foreigners, tbh.

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 June 2010 09:45 (fifteen years ago)

Sour grapes before a ball has even been kicked.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:45 (fifteen years ago)

can't work out if hating the Germans for not being German is a step forward or back

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 09:47 (fifteen years ago)

yeah but the germans used to be just foreigners in my day, now they're dirty moosleem foreigners and all. used to be you knew wehere you stood with fritz, now it's more like fritzkebab amirite?

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:47 (fifteen years ago)

Anyway, surely every immigrant in Europe lives in the UK, don't tell me other countries have them too

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:47 (fifteen years ago)

surely ozil's choice to play for germany arguably shows ~extraordinary~ patriotism, in that he cld have played for a good team (turkey) out of ethnic affiliation but considered his nationality more important

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 09:48 (fifteen years ago)

can't work out if hating the Germans for not being German is a step forward or back

― Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 10:47 (41 seconds ago) Bookmark

this is a lot worse

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 09:48 (fifteen years ago)

xp nah he was just good enough to play for the bigger team.

i'd have more admiration for kevin nolan- could have played international football with us, was quite obviously never gonna get an england cap, but was staright enough to straight out 'i'm not irish, i'm english so no ta'

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:49 (fifteen years ago)

was quite obviously never gonna get an england cap

Disagree with you there

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:51 (fifteen years ago)

ok, not 'quite obviously' maybe, but he was a dead cert with us to play vital role in midfield in competitive matches

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 09:51 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1289389/World-Cup-2010-England-vs-Germany-new-citizens-make-rivals-team.html

picture: 9 is Lahm. Marin is sitting to his left. But don't let facts get in the way, DM.

StanM, Friday, 25 June 2010 09:52 (fifteen years ago)

A total of 11 of the current 23-strong German squad would have been branded foreigners under rules dating back to before the Nazis and would have therefore been ineligible to play only a decade ago.
Daily Mail in 'The Nazis had the right idea' shocker.

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 June 2010 09:53 (fifteen years ago)

ignore my previous message! Stupid belgian foreigner StanM is wrong and hangs his head in shame! :-(

StanM, Friday, 25 June 2010 09:54 (fifteen years ago)

xp nah he was just good enough to play for the bigger team.

turkey got to the semi-finals in 2008 and have some great young players

in a few years turkey w/ ozil wd ≈ germany w/o him

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 09:54 (fifteen years ago)

lol getting butthurt about the daily mail you guyz

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 25 June 2010 10:09 (fifteen years ago)

but but... 44 years of hurt!

StanM, Friday, 25 June 2010 10:14 (fifteen years ago)

65 years of hurt for the DM. :'(

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 25 June 2010 10:25 (fifteen years ago)

turkey got to the semi-finals in 2008 and have some great young players

in a few years turkey w/ ozil wd ≈ germany w/o him

germany have an outside bet of winning this world cup and you're comparing them to turkey who didn't even qualify?

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Friday, 25 June 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

also the whole thing about football player's nationalities, it would be nice if players could only play for the country they grew up in/their parents' country/ies of origin imo. but otoh if i had been a shit hot football player i would have chosen not to play for where i'm from or where my dad's from but would have exploited the fact that my half-italian granny has citizenship and played for the azzurri (could have helped them out this time around for sure!).

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Friday, 25 June 2010 11:25 (fifteen years ago)

what if you were good enough to play for scotland but not italy or chile

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 11:26 (fifteen years ago)

i don't agree with being able to change your birth nationality/heritage options

ie- brazilians taking on nationality-of-choice to get an international game.

but all other 'loopholes' (grandparents/birth/lived from childhood) are all pretty valid imo

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 11:26 (fifteen years ago)

xp ^ d fletcher tbh

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 11:26 (fifteen years ago)

i would have happily played for scotland if i wasn't good enough to glory-hunt with the italians or chile.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Friday, 25 June 2010 11:28 (fifteen years ago)

talking about chile: totally getting pumped out of the world cup today :(

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Friday, 25 June 2010 11:28 (fifteen years ago)

Not sure Darren Fletcher's good enough to play for Scotland tbh

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2010 11:29 (fifteen years ago)

oh is this the day Chile could put Spain out? superb

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 11:30 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXpUdBlRZe8

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Friday, 25 June 2010 11:30 (fifteen years ago)

my half-italian granny has citizenship and played for the azzurri

No wonder they got knocked out

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 25 June 2010 11:57 (fifteen years ago)

germany have an outside bet of winning this world cup and you're comparing them to turkey who didn't even qualify?

― Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Friday, 25 June 2010 12:22 (35 minutes ago) Bookmark

no not exactly but they aren't that far apart

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 12:02 (fifteen years ago)

i'll be sad if chile go out today but fear that they will

shd rly have scored a few more against honduras

h8 switzerland's rote negativism

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 12:04 (fifteen years ago)

Swiss are weird cos their flag is totally positive.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 25 June 2010 12:05 (fifteen years ago)

fucking square tho

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 25 June 2010 12:06 (fifteen years ago)

Square fellows don't roll down mountains.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 25 June 2010 12:09 (fifteen years ago)

I love a Swiss roll meself

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2010 12:12 (fifteen years ago)

spain have been half-assed in this tournament so far but i hope they dont go out (esp. as it will mean further swiss involvement)

Michael B, Friday, 25 June 2010 12:17 (fifteen years ago)

I'll just leave this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXRnDUGWdTU

StanM, Friday, 25 June 2010 12:20 (fifteen years ago)

Chile stick a few past demoralised Spain, Honduras hold Switzerland to draw until freak and illegal injury-time goal gives Honduras win = everyone's a winner

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 12:22 (fifteen years ago)

Aw no, that scenario would actually reult in drawing of lots, which Switzerland would inevitably win, turning it into a dull spectacle to boot.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 12:24 (fifteen years ago)

cant see honduras beating the swiss tbh

Michael B, Friday, 25 June 2010 12:25 (fifteen years ago)

that daily racist shit makes me want germany to hammer england so much.

Chris, Friday, 25 June 2010 12:54 (fifteen years ago)

it makes me want england to hammer the daily mail

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 25 June 2010 12:57 (fifteen years ago)

8 zillion xposts because I haven't seen this thread since last night:

Nice to see that early year in Glasgow hasn't stopped influencing Rino Gattuso's vernacular.

ailsa, Friday, 25 June 2010 12:57 (fifteen years ago)

VUVUZELA FAIL DOG OTM

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 12:59 (fifteen years ago)

yup serves them right for terrorising their dog

hi bianca :x (cozen), Friday, 25 June 2010 13:16 (fifteen years ago)

absolutely- we should put them in the queue for a villa-slap too i reckon

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 13:24 (fifteen years ago)

A teenage Gilberto Silva quit football to work in a candy factory.

hi bianca :x (cozen), Friday, 25 June 2010 13:36 (fifteen years ago)

the ignorance of the bbc cunts is rly annoying

hansen taking the piss out of dixon for having heard of prob most highly rated young midfielder in the world hamsik
shearer 'likes the look' of 29 yr old established brazil #9 as if he's some 19 yr old honduran

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 13:50 (fifteen years ago)

What game is likely to be more fun?

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 25 June 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)

ok fatty baps is playing, brazil it is.

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 25 June 2010 13:56 (fifteen years ago)

OMG did anyone see the mascots hugging the Brazil players after the anthems and then hugging each other?! Cutest thing ever!!!

Chris, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

Y Toure nearly scored about 30 seconds in.

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:01 (fifteen years ago)

fatty baps? all of brazil's best fatteys were left at home

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:01 (fifteen years ago)

wouldn't be able to make the 23 man squad if they left all of them at home

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)

or they'd have to take denilson or lucas, which is even more lol

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)

wouldn't be able to get the plane off the ground if they took all of them, tbh

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

lucas >>> denilson

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

harsh but fair on last season ;_;

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

wtf i'm only winding lucas <<<<<<<< my sac tbh

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

Drogba just had a goal disallowed for offside.

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

lol Dunga is wearing a shirt

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah but Denilson had a p shit season as well. I guess Lucas didn't score a couple classy long shots but I think they are both responsible for many a point lost.

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

Y TOURE

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

YaYa just scored a beauty

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

This is just like watching Brazil.

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

Dani Alves is a really good attacking full back but a pretty ordinary midfielder imo

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

tend to agree

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

he's an A++++ 200m hurdler waiting to happen, I'm not sure if he's a footballer tbh

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)

2-0!

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:19 (fifteen years ago)

2-0 IVC rebound snaffled after thunderous shot off inside ofcroosbar

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

*of crossbar*

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

10 goal swing you say

hi bianca :x (cozen), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

They couldn't do this, could they?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:22 (fifteen years ago)

Eboue is spoiling the juche party

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwoSFQb5HVk

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

civ 50/1 to qualify before the game

thought it was undervalued

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

Stuff like that really ought to be red

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

If it's 4-0 at half time and Brazil are winning I'd have a shout.

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

Hm, if you foul someone on half way line as last man that can be a red, so why not deliberate hand ball?

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

Portugal player getting booked for chasing the ref demanding a Brazilian gets carded! Love to see refs do that.

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

Closeups of Ronaldo's pseudo-thousand-yard-stare face just prior to him punting a freekick into row Z is a small but beautiful component of modern football imo

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

It's fair enough to demand a card if it's deserved in my view

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

I actually find the waving of imaginary cards more amusing than reprehensible.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

Portugal player getting booked for chasing the ref demanding a Brazilian gets carded! Love to see refs do that.

Sweet. Hate those whiny cheating Portugese bastids.

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

How did that not go in from Nilmar?

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

Portugal upping the cheat ante now

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

Tom D- Tiago just got booked for diving

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

Tiago might've got a pen there if he wasn't so shit at diving

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

Ha ha, Tiago. I hope there are lots of Americans watching this.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

It seems that whatever match I put on gets boring so I've just turned Bra-Por back on, I suggest you guys switch back to DPRK-CD'I

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

They are the worst. Irritates me when people talk as if Italy are. (xp)

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

It's so easy for me to root against Brazil before a game and so hard after 20 minutes in.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

Feel guilty for hatin' on Portugal, 'cos my neighbour is from Portugal and she is sweet

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:34 (fifteen years ago)

Portugal will not finish this with ten men

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

^ mystic statement ^

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

I actually find the waving of imaginary cards more amusing than reprehensible.

― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:29 (5 minutes ago)

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

Portugal will not finish this with ten men

No, they'll finish how they started, with 11 crybabies

^ BillMagillSpeak

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

Drogba just standing on the ball for about five seconds while two NK defenders wait for him to move, so he went around them.

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

appreciate you guys going easy there

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

I'm sure Drogba wishes he had some teammates.

Grisly Addams (WmC), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

Yikes, Fabiano...

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

Portugal need to cut this out, they're not an inherently unlikeable lot

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

they're not?

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

Alves lucky not to get carded for diving there

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

Have you ever been to Portugal? They're nice folks, really.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

I'm sure Drogba Ronaldo wishes he had some teammates.

― Grisly Addams (WmC), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:39 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

This has got Portugal-Holland written all over it

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

I actually find the waving of imaginary cards more amusing than reprehensible.

― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:29 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah I think refs should judging give them imaginary bookings and laugh at them for it.

The aircraft called shame is ready to leave (onimo), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

Portugesers are lovely people, for sure

Portugal need to cut this out, they're not an inherently unlikeable lot

Not without Deco, then they were not so much inherently unlikeable as instantly unlikeable

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

The Portuguese are generally v nice people but get them over that white line and jesus christ help me

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

onimo otm

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)

Now Melo subbed off before he lamps someone

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)

handball should have been red btw

caek, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

f-melo's a fucking tard

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

Ronaldo: if you can't kick it that far without it bouncing, don't shoot

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

bouncing it before the keeper- classic r baggio technique iirc

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe he's noticed that every diagonal long ball that bounces before reaching its target bounces high and over the top of the target and thought he'd try it a keeper.

The aircraft called shame is ready to leave (onimo), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

Any chance of Brazil scoring about seven?

And do the BBC3 games not have any halftime chat, or have the mics been turned off?

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

The Portuguese are generally v nice people but get them over that white line and jesus christ help me

― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:43 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I guess somewhere with so many ports will have a lot of coke around, aye

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

Honestly how many times have you seen -long ball - huge bounce out of play - player applauds effort at long ball- in this tournament?

The aircraft called shame is ready to leave (onimo), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

McCarthy just moaned about this but yeah why is first half injury time almost always one minute and never more than two?

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

Honestly how many times have you seen -long ball - huge bounce out of play - player applauds effort at long ball- in this tournament?

I thought we'd maybe seen the end of it w/the players getting used to the ball but no

hi bianca :x (cozen), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

At least 3 Brazil corners cleared by a Portugal player marking a zone, Mick McCarthy. Just sayin.

Chris, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

Lucas is going to be better than Mascherano btw.

Chris, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

lol @ Drogba's gesturing wildly after every action

"No no, not offside!" <- yes, you were
"Yes, over the line, I scored!" <- no, you didn't

StanM, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)

I guess somewhere with so many ports will have a lot of coke around, aye

Drugs are essentially tolerated in Portugal.

Ismael, I kind of agree w/onimo on that kick - much harder to defend against a bouncing ball.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

Lisbon is probably the nicest city I've ever been to fwiw

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

McCarthy just moaned about this but yeah why is first half injury time almost always one minute and never more than two?

― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), 25 June 2010 14:51 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I guess, psychologically, you still got 45 mins to change the result.

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

I normally hate Drogba but if he scores about six in the second half and leaves Eboue to score the goal that puts CIV through, he's alright by me.

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

sure xp, when it isn't trundling in from seventy yards

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

McCarthy just moaned about this but yeah why is first half injury time almost always one minute and never more than two?

― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:51 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

No subs and less goals?

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

stunning tackle

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

how the hell did big fat lucio make up all that ground?

hi bianca :x (cozen), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

portugal starting well here

caek, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

lúcio is fat?

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)

he's no lampard

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

he's probably just 'stocky'

hi bianca :x (cozen), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

looks quite a bit heavier than lampard tho

hi bianca :x (cozen), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

really quick anyway so it is probably muscle

hi bianca :x (cozen), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

Can't believe Baptista is anywhere near this squad on this form

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

Use your left foot

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

lúcio is the player rio ferdinand was supposed to be

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

just an amazing amazing player

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

oh yeah no doubt

hi bianca :x (cozen), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

that was simultaneously a wonderful tackle, a terrible backpass, a woeful miss and a magnificent save

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

rio ferdinand is still one of england's best modern-day players

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

Will we see an appearance from Spurs' Number 1?

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

No subs and less goals?

― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:01 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Eh I meant more that they give a minute almost as a matter of course when in that half the amt of stoppages should have warranted at least three and would w/o question if it was the second half

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

julio cesar looks like desperate dan

hi bianca :x (cozen), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

rio ferdinand is still one of england's best modern-day players

... of practical jokes

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

loving how shit ronaldo's free kicks have gotten with the jabulani. flat-track bully

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

McCarthy hoping someone elbows somebody!

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.sporting-heroes.net/files_footballworldcup/TAFFAREL_19940713_GH_R.jpg

hi bianca :x (cozen), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

Brazil look a little frsutrated

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

someone needs to compile these gnomic hd super slowmos w/ sunn 0))) sndtrck

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

parasite football!

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

yeah they're rubbish without a constant low drone accompanying them
xpost

The aircraft called shame is ready to leave (onimo), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

So sad this is Mick's last game

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

Why?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

I mean, why is it his last game? Can't compete with Mark Bright or something?

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

Oof, what a tackle -amazed Baptista survived tbh

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

Kalou scores, game on. Eboue for a nine minute hat-trick.

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

So are Brazil not that bothered about winning, or do they miss Robinho and Kaka THAT much?

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

booming tackle by carvalhao

caek, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

Mick has a club to manage ;_;

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

lol JP Dellacamera just said that Ivory Coast score a third but "need another touchdown"

Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

I think they miss them that much xp - they're good and strong but lacking in guile without them. Portugal as good as I've seen them though, for all that they haven't really created that much either

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

quickfire poll

who has the worse fauxmbover

meireles
gervinho

hi bianca :x (cozen), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

rau' mrezzzzh

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

Hmph, well at least Spain-Chile will be a stormer tonight....hopefully

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

WHAT'S THE PORTUGUESE FOR ANSCHLUSS

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

Think the NK keeper has swallowed his cyanide five minutes too early.

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

one thing i'll give Portugal - containing the decent teams well and pulverising the weaker sides accordingly. Portugal v Switzerland? shudder.

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

La joga tediosa

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

Commentators forgetting about treatment to Ceasar

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

RIP

http://i.imgur.com/ahpzbh.jpg

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

RIP best world cup jerseys.

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

fenian bastids

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

RIP CIV

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

FUCK YALL LUSOPHONES

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

Portugal Brazil: plz can I have that 90 minutes of my life back.

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

Wd rather have kept CIV with their cheating over Portugal and their cheating.

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

that wasn't rly a terrible game, had its intrigues and ocassional brilliance from some players

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

It's good to see Brazil stoppable, though, even if it's down to Kaka being out on a bullshit call.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

I should qualify: Terrible on radio.

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

Myong-Guk Ri gets man of the match for playing 15 minutes with multiple life-threatening injuries whilst the manager is on his invisible phone to the Dear Leader trying to get almighty permission to make a substitution.

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

All these replays make me more sympathetic to the idea that Melo's yellow should have been red.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

haaa seedorf complaining about slow build up

like ac milan of mid 00s are prob my fav team but these days....

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

Joe Cole looks ill

tomofthenest, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

ivory coast really should have tried to go for a win vs portugal right? it's not like any of the other results had been shocking in this group and a portugal draw vs brazil in the final group game that didn't really matter was always likely?

voodoo sailor (ken c), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

I would like to hear Donovan's call on Melo's yellow.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

that CIV photo is pretty amazing - like i reckon you could show it to someone who knew literally nothing about football and they'd instantly be able to tell that a) Drogba is the best player on that team, and b) Drogba is one of the best players in the world.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

lol it is kind of like those awful generic press photos of indie bands where the female singer is front and centre and the dowdy dudes are like 12 ft deep in the shot

heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Friday, 25 June 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

we need more of these high tech depictions of formations using the fingers of multiple pundits.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

at last lawrenson gets to monetize his polydactyly

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

I'd certainly like to give the finger to many of the pundits amarite?

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

Also good luck to jim in Scotland (sheepishly admits to wanting Spain to go thru' however)

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

swiss need to lose for both spain/chile to progress y/n?

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

Oh that's right Clive, Spain weren't under ANY pressure in the Euros against Italy in a game that went to penalties ffs

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

I think a draw in both games sends Ch/Sp thru

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

amazing to me that Hahahonduras can still go through if things line up right

Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)

Also good luck to jim in Scotland (sheepishly admits to wanting Spain to go thru' however)

― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:30 (8 minutes ago)

same tbh

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

liquid football until rafawinger

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:40 (fifteen years ago)

Not sure if this has been posted in here yet, but LOL:

http://i.imgur.com/cl8qo.png

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)

Am I mistaken, or did Tyldesley just call the Copa Libertadores "a bit of a mystery"?

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

That reporter interviewing the fans earlier was superb - "think of all the wonderful players you've got - Fabregas, Torres ... the rest of them"

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

"You can tell he's a teacher cos he wears his spectacles on cords. Only teachers do that... then they push them down the end of their nose... and look at you..."

Tyldesley has some issues, then.

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah Clive Copa America is impossible to find on TV, it's not like Sky show it.....oh wait THEY DO!!

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:52 (fifteen years ago)

haha didn't see that xxp

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

"pienses de todos los grandes jugadores que tienes - Joe Cole, Michael Owen ... los otros"

(apols for cod spanish)

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

oh my

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

awesome!

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

Jesus!

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

ridiculous

zappi, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

(the finish, not the keeping)

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

chile team are steroided up to the eyeballs i think

r|t|c, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

As for the Copa Libertadores yes the S American Champions Lge is very mysterious
xxxxp

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

Estrada certainly is
xp

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

I like how Univision keep showing the groups as they currently stand goal by goal. Useful.

Kiitën (admrl), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

Not sure a replay of someone falling down is the time to praise their "lovely balance"

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

I thought that kind of goal only happened in video games.

As long as Chile lose by the same result as Switzerland win they'll still go through with Spain. Hope that the Swiss style will continue to prove incompatible with a two-goal win.

if, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

God Torres looks a shadow of his normal self

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

noyce

r|t|c, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

NOT BAD.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

fabulous

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

So fucking cool

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

what happened now?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

torres been elbowed?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

ahh tripped off the ball

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:08 (fifteen years ago)

Hm maybe accidental there.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:08 (fifteen years ago)

he wasn't even watching Torres, just clipped his foot accidentally - very very very shady red card :-/

StanM, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:08 (fifteen years ago)

fucking joke referee

ears are wounds, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

Chille RIP (if Swiss win)

Zeno, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

DEAR FUCKING IDIOT CUNT REFEREE, YOU CAN'T DENY A TEAM A GOALSCORING OPPORTUNITY WHEN THEY SCORE ANYWAY

AND IT WAS BLATANTLY ACCIDENTAL ANYWAY

THANKS

MOI

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

DEAR FUCKING IDIOT CUNT REFEREE, YOU CAN'T DENY A TEAM A GOALSCORING OPPORTUNITY WHEN THEY SCORE ANYWAY
DEAR FUCKING IDIOT CUNT REFEREE, YOU CAN'T DENY A TEAM A GOALSCORING OPPORTUNITY WHEN THEY SCORE ANYWAY
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so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, Estrada should have been off earlier but that was never a red. Both finishes were ice cold tho'

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

yeah he was totally getting a red in the next 10 mins anyway so whatevs really

r|t|c, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

Torres must have trained diving like that, nobody falls that elegantly.

StanM, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

ALSO DEAR FUCKING IDIOT CUNT GOALIE, KICK IT OUT OF PLAY YOU COMPLETE FUCKING CRETIN GOD THIS IS BASIC STUFF

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

So Chile finished second in S American qualifying despite averaging a red card almost every other game? Blimey!

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

Also (not about this game) dear FIFA, stop showing the crowd on your big in-stadium screens when they're live on TV, all we ever see is their neighbours pointing at the screen and then you having to zap away quickly for fear of middle fingers or something. (show the crowd on TV when you want to show the crowd on TV, don't let them see themselves) But anyway.

StanM, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)

Don't want to harp on, but it is unbelievable how much less enjoyable Clive Tydlesley makes football

ears are wounds, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:16 (fifteen years ago)

Sw/Hon 0-0 h-t

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:16 (fifteen years ago)

Pretty sure Torres tripped over his own feet. The rest was theatrics.

The red card should've been given earlier for the deliberate spike to Torres's knee at the sideline.

The Amy Misto Family Knife (Plasmon), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

I want spain to win the group but i want chile to go through too to play brazil.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

just for jim really

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

Stunned Ponce hasn't been sent off yet.

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

Fuck Torres btw, so out of shape/sharpness he can't run, can't pass, can't dribble, can't shoot, can't control a pass so he just dives like a prick and ruins an entertaining game. Why does an accidental trip lead to him lying down for five minutes?

Chile were doing their utmost to lose a man anyway, why make an arse of yourself by cheating?

The aircraft called shame is ready to leave (onimo), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

Miracle they got to ht with 10 men tbh

ears are wounds, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

Sw have been actually attacking in other game with Honduras having opportunities on the break. Pretty open game considering it's Switzerland. There's a chance Hon could get a pt imo

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

I can totally believe that the dull as fuck Edgar Davids' gripe with Chile is that they're too enthusiastic.

Chris, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)

Btw isn't Villa right footed? Pretty impressive finish with his 'wrong' foot

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, Chile are mostly doing this to themselves. Other than their over the top fouls (and the goals leading from them) I think they were actually as good as Spain, if not better. Too enthusiastic to finish off their attacks, I kind of agree.

StanM, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

Thank God people who are watching the game apart from Clive Tyldesley noticed that Torres is a diving cunt.

Post di Natale Depression (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

Lying on the ground isn't diving imo tho' it is certainly acting/cheating. But he was certainly tripped.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

It looked like there was probably contact, if you looked at it long enough. His movement thru the air didn't look like the natural reaction to that kind of trip.

Post di Natale Depression (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

Estrada did clip his foot, but certainly not on purpose. He should have been sent off a couple of minutes earlier for kicking Torres in the knee while getting up, though, so it wasn't completely unjust that Torres milked it a little either.

StanM, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

Estrada was well lucky not have been sent off earlier and how he managed to run into Torres w/o 'accidentally' is beyond me. I certainly wouldn't give him a drivers license based on that kind of vision.

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

The manner in which he went down was overly theatrical too. I fucking hate watching footballers fall over - no-one actually falls like that!

The aircraft called shame is ready to leave (onimo), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

woof.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

Lying on the floor like you've been pole-axed is diving imo since the intent is basically the same.

I mean I don't know how I feel about the "player should've already been sent-off so it doesn't matter if you cheat to achieve justice" school of thought. Think I am a bit Kantian about the whole cheating issue.

Post di Natale Depression (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

There was me thinking we'd get through this world cup without a bigtime on-pitch blowout. Other than that, 2-0 Spain going on 2-0 Chile.

That's more like it!

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

Anyway 2-1 yeehaa let karma decide

Post di Natale Depression (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

aw, I thought that curled beautifully into the top corner. But still, wahey exciting.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

huge deflection

The aircraft called shame is ready to leave (onimo), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

Okay, am I right in thinking Switzerland are now out unless they score two?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

Interesting

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

chile are so great

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

I fucking hate watching footballers fall over - no-one actually falls like that!

Utterly OTM. Try it on the lawn sometimes. You instinctively put down your other foot, THEY somehow overcome their instincts to pull up that foot. LOADS of training how to fall, I can't see any other explanation.

StanM, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

Hon just missed a sitter, free header 6 yards out.

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

Yes xp, but why don't refs see that?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

The Chilean goal will be the cue for lots more play-acting from spain to encourage more card-waving from the ref. Busquets has been taught very well at Barca.

thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

Yes xp, but why don't refs see that?

― Ismael Klata, Friday, June 25, 2010 7:40 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

cos if they did there wouldn't be a game left.

thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

Because it usually happens so fast and we get to see it from a better vantage point without other players in the way? Or because (guessing) 3 fouls out of 10 dives is worth it?

StanM, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

How many players do Udinese have at this world cup? They're forever getting namechecked.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

cesc's beard looks good

156, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

Blaise Nkufo? Blase Nkfuo morelike

/trollingseattlefans

Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe Udinese's just more fun to say.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

Fuck Torres btw, so out of shape/sharpness he can't run, can't pass, can't dribble, can't shoot, can't control a pass so he just dives like a prick and ruins an entertaining game. Why does an accidental trip lead to him lying down for five minutes?

Chile were doing their utmost to lose a man anyway, why make an arse of yourself by cheating?

― The aircraft called shame is ready to leave (onimo), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:19 (17 minutes ago) Bookmark

cosignnnnnn

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

as for udinese i guess they have a good scouting system, eg the likes of inler and zapata

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

Okay, am I right in thinking Switzerland are now out unless they score two?

― Ismael Klata, Friday, June 25, 2010 7:36 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

yeah

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

cos Tyldesley just said otherwise

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

no actually! cuz swz gd before tonight = 0, spain = +1, so 2-0 swz-hon = spain +2, swz +2, but spain have 4 goals to swz' 3

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

rly kind of wish Honduras would do something here given all the trouble they caused in quals

Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

another Udineser! My googling for a count of players per club is failing me, though.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

Nice to see an Udinese player getting on as sub

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

just heard a reference to an even more mysterious competition: the CONCACAF champions league

Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

Gerard Pique so wishes he was Lúcio

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

Hon really should have scored on a 2 on 1 break, good save by keeper

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

Would be quite happy for Spain to embark on a 21-minute passing move now

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

Gerrard spitter Seb Frei just missed a good chance for Sw

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)

Chile are not better than Spain anymore this second half.

StanM, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

They have fewer players.

The aircraft called shame is ready to leave (onimo), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

just heard a reference to an even more mysterious competition: the CONCACAF champions league

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONCACAF_Champions_League

I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

<3 honduras 4eva if they do a switzerland to switzerland

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

LIKE A DETUNED RAAADIO

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

You'd think Spain would be the worst team to play against with ten men

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

torres torres torres wtf you little cunt

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

Howard Webb!

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

lol I was making joeks MW, figured most people here might not know it exists, let alone that Marathon of Honduras takes part

Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

and his assistants!

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

Hon=Sw is like watching basketball and if Hon screw up another 3 on 2 break I may well scream

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder if the magnificent Howard Webb will be refereeing the Uruguay - North Korea game, Clive.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

England going to the final and ITV have Uruguay v North Korea tomorrow apparently. They must be pleased with that draw.

x-post

if, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

pssssssst guys there's still a game ongoing.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

"You could argue that Spain have better players than England"

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

Like who? Not Fabregas & Torres by any chance?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

Switzerland do need 2 - guy on itv4 just said so

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

chile should score as punishment to spain's ygly game the last ten minutes

Zeno, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

ugly

Zeno, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

Honduras should've scored twice in ten seconds there

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

"You could argue that Spain have better players than England"

― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 25 June 2010 21:12 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

plz say this is a real quote.

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

Fabregasp

Post di Natale Depression (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

ENGLAND'S STRENGTH IS THEIR INDIVIDUALS

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)

it is a real quote

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

last 10 minutes of that = a ball being passed across a human face, forever

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

Full time 0-0. Yay!

if, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

Well done Honduras! Spain + Chile thru, happy with that. Chile vs Brazil hmm

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

chile>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spain

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

otm

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

each chevron necessary

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

realest of talk

Post di Natale Depression (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

even to the detriment of this august thread's dully conservative formatting

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

"You could argue that Spain have better players than England"

― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 25 June 2010 21:12 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

plz say this is a real quote.

Yes! Then the next sentence started "but" and he started talking about Lampard and Gerrard, it was amazing.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

THEY CAN PLAY TOGETHERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
JUST FOR ONE DAY

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

So Uruguay/S Korea
USA/Ghana
Germany/England
Argentina/Mexico
Netherlands/Slovakia
Brazil/Chile
Paraguay/Japan
Spain/Portugal

roll on Round 2 *rubs hands*

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

I think Honduras will get a draw vs Switzerland.

― slow motion hair ruffle (onimo), Monday, 21 June 2010 17:10 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

The aircraft called shame is ready to leave (onimo), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

fantastic lst 16

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

*last*

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

casillas >>>>>>>>>> james
cole >>>>>>>>>>>>>>(insert 7000 >s)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capdevila
terry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the one who isn't pique
king = pique
ramos > johnson
iniesta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> milner
xavi >>> lampard
barry = busquets
gerrard >>>>>>>> alonso
rooney >>>> torres
villa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (insert 9000 >s)>>>>>>>>>>> defoe

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

ok I have probably sold iniesta short there but still

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

Just mentioned on radio that all the Euros are playing each other so only 3 in q-finals

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

Ramos isn't better than Johnson and I don't even rate Johnson tbh

Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)

that was a very close one to call, possibly going for Ramos because he has so many medals but really he is a shit cunt and if Johnson could defend a little he'd be streets ahead

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

that was p damn impressive onimo

i thought swz wd get a few vs a demoralized honduras

but i guess for honduras [tyldesley]even qualifying was like winning the world cup for them[/tyldesley] so they didn't lack incentive to do their latino bredrin a favour

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

oh it's puyol

terry is much, much better than puyol in 2010, fact

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)

ramos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> johnson
pique >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> king
puyol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terry

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

bollocks

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

ramos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> johnson
pique >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> king
puyol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terry

― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 25 June 2010 21:38 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)

I'm aware of the vibe towards James Corden round here, but it is worth flicking on just to get a load of Joleon Lescott's beard

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)

that's just demonstrably wrong xp and not xp

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

Would probably've preferred nz to Slovakia, but otherwise couldn't be happier with the line-up.

Chile & Brazil really stinking up CONMEBOL's average today - weak links imo

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

bra/uru vs arg/esp sf innit

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

pointless teams (without checking): north korea, cameroon?

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

could have sworn some ppl here 'would not [have been] surprised if north korea go through'

mookieproof, Friday, 25 June 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

seems abt rght

cameroon wd be last 16 if it wasn't for the dersnged paul le güen xp

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 21:08 (fifteen years ago)

Just mentioned on radio that all the Euros are playing each other so only 3 in q-finals

― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, June 25, 2010 8:31 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and all the talk before the tournament was how with it being winter in south africa it would suit the european teams better.

thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Friday, 25 June 2010 21:12 (fifteen years ago)

deranged xp*

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 21:16 (fifteen years ago)

There was a post-match feature on why African sides ditch their african managers for big tourneys, but I was on the phone & couldn't hear it - did it go any way to explaining why Le Güen was a good idea?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 June 2010 21:20 (fifteen years ago)

tbh le guen managed lyon in the last 16 of the cl, so he isn't totally incompetent

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)

(iirc)

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 21:26 (fifteen years ago)

'mon the Chile. We can take these brazilians chancers nae danger!

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Friday, 25 June 2010 21:29 (fifteen years ago)

that's the spirit

nakhchivan, Friday, 25 June 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)

If it was the piece on BBC you're talking about then I think they basically said there aren't really any good African managers. About as insightful as Shearer Tackles Poverty.

Chris, Friday, 25 June 2010 21:33 (fifteen years ago)

outstanding next round coming up, yow.

flapjackin (gbx), Friday, 25 June 2010 22:17 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.mocksession.com/30fps/%20/TORRESDIVE.gif

mookieproof, Friday, 25 June 2010 22:45 (fifteen years ago)

also: grebt pics

mookieproof, Friday, 25 June 2010 22:51 (fifteen years ago)

Southgate: Torres actually trips over his own ankle.
Townsend: I'm not havin' that. No way. I know you're a defender mate but no way. Not havin' it.

Chris, Friday, 25 June 2010 22:59 (fifteen years ago)

Beautiful pictures, Mookie. I think #15 is my favourite.

Michael Jones, Friday, 25 June 2010 23:16 (fifteen years ago)

picture 23!!!

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 23:30 (fifteen years ago)

26!!! 29!!!!!

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 23:31 (fifteen years ago)

37!!!

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 25 June 2010 23:35 (fifteen years ago)

Has this been discussed yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keQ3y9JquMU

Chris, Friday, 25 June 2010 23:58 (fifteen years ago)

saw that today...so weird. wtf is up with the sit down/get up moments...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 26 June 2010 00:25 (fifteen years ago)

Capello OTM

Post di Natale Depression (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 June 2010 00:26 (fifteen years ago)

I think that was some sort of awesome koan he inflicted on Psycho

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 00:29 (fifteen years ago)

that's superb. he lives our pain.

thoughts:
maybe the england players should press more
"barry, the fucking ball barry" it a pretty good summation of the second half of that game, and would work nicely as a team motto

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 26 June 2010 03:09 (fifteen years ago)

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group stage is over & knockout stage begins today right? time for a new thread?

crüt it out (dyao), Saturday, 26 June 2010 03:11 (fifteen years ago)

back in an '06 world cup thread i asked where i could find a table that broke down the teams knocked out. someone said, "that's not really done" and i promptly forgot about it, until today. So here it is, and a good ending for this thread. I'm drunk so i might have missed something, but yeah:


Points Goal Differential Goals Scored
32. North Korea 0 -12 0
31. Cameroon 0 -3 2
30. Honduras 1 -3 0
29. France 1 -3 1
28. Algeria 1 -2 0
27. Nigeria 1 -2 3
26. Italy 2 -1 4
25. Greece 3 -3 2
24. Denmark 3 -2 3
23. Serbia 3 -1 2
22. New Zealand 3 0 2
21. Australia 4 -3 3
20. South Africa 4 -2 3
19. Switzerland 4 0 1
18. Slovenia 4 0 3
17. Ivory Coast 4 +1 4

156, Saturday, 26 June 2010 03:18 (fifteen years ago)

north korea scored a goal

mizzell, Saturday, 26 June 2010 03:49 (fifteen years ago)

shit

156, Saturday, 26 June 2010 03:50 (fifteen years ago)

the torres gif is great. he doesn't even trip over his feet, just bangs one ankle into the other chaplin style. was he trying to buy the card or just a free kick in a good area?

thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Saturday, 26 June 2010 04:14 (fifteen years ago)

http://content6.flixster.com/photo/12/51/09/12510904_gal.jpg

thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Saturday, 26 June 2010 04:19 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/photos/2006/06/28/l17419-1.jpg
donald o'connor, not chaplin...

thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Saturday, 26 June 2010 04:20 (fifteen years ago)

Watch only the other guy to see that they did touch. Quite subtle and Torres (lol cell phone spelling suggesting Tosser) obviously did what he's trained to do (make the most out of any contact, especially there), but they did touch.

StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 04:22 (fifteen years ago)

Sometimes when we touch
I dive so fucking much

Post di Natale Depression (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 June 2010 06:33 (fifteen years ago)

dude taps torres' ankle with his knee and sends his foot flying into his standing leg. what's more, if u saw a wide shot, he pointedly changes angle in order to cut across the back of torres while studiously looking the other way.

iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Saturday, 26 June 2010 07:11 (fifteen years ago)

haha that capello video - I always have to remind myself dude was a top-level player, his body always seems so warped and improbable.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 26 June 2010 07:21 (fifteen years ago)

I thought it was an accident. But someone was going to get sent off very soon and that guy had been lucky once already.

Also, if you're running at full pace it hardly needs any contact at all to knock you over. It'd be nice if football recognised that, instead of creating a situation where you don't get your free kicks or cards unless you dive, but that isn't going to change now. It's pretty sad, not just because it's shameful, but because some of the very best goals (Maradona riding tackles against Belgium, or Ronaldinho bouncing John Terry to the ground) wouldn't get scored today.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 07:28 (fifteen years ago)

i keep thinking/hoping that Komt ie dannnnnnn...het WK topic. is about andrew wk

mookieproof, Saturday, 26 June 2010 07:30 (fifteen years ago)

Eboue is learning Korean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LFZJIm3mD0

James Mitchell, Saturday, 26 June 2010 07:35 (fifteen years ago)

I wish I could speak Dutch, even just a little, so I could post there. When I see phrases like "Drogba_breekt_elleboog_en_mist_WK" or "Van der Vaart met baard = cool" I feel like I'm only one vowel sound away from cracking it.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 07:52 (fifteen years ago)

It's almost english! Look:

breekt - breaks
elleboog - elbow
mist - misses
met - with
baard - beard

StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 08:01 (fifteen years ago)

Go on, try it. :-)

StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 08:02 (fifteen years ago)

Okay, ik hope dat de USA baats Ghana dis taag en progres voor de kwarter fijnels. Deuce met baard = ijs cold.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 08:13 (fifteen years ago)

MY MOTHER? What does my mother have to do with this! I've never been this insulted!

StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 08:21 (fifteen years ago)

;-)

StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 08:22 (fifteen years ago)

Ismael Klata said StanM's mom has an open goal, pass it on

crüt it out (dyao), Saturday, 26 June 2010 08:25 (fifteen years ago)

ik hope dat de USA baats ghana too

heywood jabulani (cozen), Saturday, 26 June 2010 09:12 (fifteen years ago)

he's ready
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Q4FxzsSKc

heywood jabulani (cozen), Saturday, 26 June 2010 09:26 (fifteen years ago)

love eboue nodding sagely. "wise words"

thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Saturday, 26 June 2010 09:50 (fifteen years ago)

dude taps torres' ankle with his knee and sends his foot flying into his standing leg. what's more, if u saw a wide shot, he pointedly changes angle in order to cut across the back of torres while studiously looking the other way.

― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Saturday, June 26, 2010 7:11 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if he hadn't changed angle he'd have run full tilt into torres.

thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Saturday, 26 June 2010 09:56 (fifteen years ago)

That first gif starts a little too late to see, this one's better (don't know what the yellow thing is, found it like this)

http://www.abload.de/img/torreslentocm2x.gif

StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 10:13 (fifteen years ago)

WORLD CUP POLL : Best goal of the group stages

Michael B, Saturday, 26 June 2010 10:57 (fifteen years ago)

no idea what's going to happen in this game

caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 13:27 (fifteen years ago)

new thread title suggestions?

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 26 June 2010 13:34 (fifteen years ago)

Shake das booty Franz, herr we go fighting them on the beaches in the 2nd motherfucking round of the 2010 World Cup

?

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 26 June 2010 13:35 (fifteen years ago)

WORLD CUP 2010 SECOND ROUND

caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 13:37 (fifteen years ago)

maybe add Soccerball to the title to avoid confusion?

StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 13:40 (fifteen years ago)

WORLD CUP 2010 SECOND ROUND

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 26 June 2010 13:41 (fifteen years ago)


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