Chicago: Singing Italian Songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh8sjHorwLE

I pub quiz a go?

Kenan, I sent you a Very Important Email.

yes, pub quiz a tomorrow

I do enjoy facebook marketing sometimes.

http://mypartyshirt.com/tshirts/movie-shirts/johnny-utah-jersey?track=fb

UTAH!

Random awesomeness:

A friend of mine's father used to sing in a band called The L@f@yettes. The friend downloaded a BBC doc about Brian Eno because the friend loves Brian Eno. And then, this happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWXqKm6uF3o

I would have seriously pissed myself.

whoa that is so awesome!

awesome. btw the importance of that song to Eno is also mentioned in this book:

http://www.buzzine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/some_faraway_beach_eno_20090110.jpg

I know, right???? He said he couldn't sleep that night because he was so jazzed/amazed. I'll tell him about the book, too.

it's just a very brief mention in the book; I checked but it's not on Google Books unfortunately

I don't think he'll care that it's a brief mention.

Is the rest of the book good?

I'm asking for myself, not for my friend.

it's decent, it's a pretty straight bio. I own it, you can borrow if you want. this is also very entertaining if you want to read Brian Eno's ruminations about using PhotoShop to distort the bodies of women in pornographic photos:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/adaptiveblue_img/books/year_with_swollen_appendices_diary_of_brian_eno/brian_eno

I would like to borrow the bio, and I will think about whether I'd like to borrow the diary.

http://www.suntimes.com/business/2181984,CST-NWS-chick21.article

Still not open on Sunday.

I am filled with conflicting emotions about this!

my mom loves this place
i find it rather gross, but i worked across the street from one for 3 years and ate a regrettable amount of their fries.

Ugh. I feel you, Jenny.

if you need some effective ammo to resist its charms, watch Food, Inc., esp. the part about industrially farmed chickens.

I'll pass. I already know the horrors of industrial chicken processing for one, and for two, until I have the inclination/time/money to go totally off the grid and start raising my own poultry, the gut-wrenching guilt isn't going to do anything but make me wish I were dead, which is not a particularly useful way to feel.

i used to eat
CHICK
FIL
A
in college because there was one in one of the dining halls

Here are tonight's rounds:
1) In The Year 2525 10 pts
2) Needs Rhino Tow 12 pts
3) Match- Her Girls Vent 15 pts
4) Bizarro World 16 pts
5) Dead Or Canadian 11 pts
6) Pictures 15 pts
7) General Knowledge 22 pts

sorry, i know that was an annoying comment. i watched it recently also knowing how horrible industrial chicken farming is and, for me, it was an effective added deterrent. i'll let someone else raise the chickens, but i will eat the best chickens available to me as a consumer. this has led to me eating very little chicken.

#3 = river lengths

#2 = one-hit wonders

excited about one-hit wonders, not excited about river lengths

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/2415428,weekend-shooting-roundup-062110.article

54 people shot in one weekend seems excessive

it's sad to me that we think any people (>0) being shot is normal, but yeah. seems out of the ordinary. i always wonder if the increase in violence can be traced to a single external cause, ie a boat with xx lbs of drugs was intercepted by pirates near madagascar and it trickled down from there to the 54 people shot in one weekend.

http://www.shadowandact.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Mookie.jpg

I hope I am ready for pub quiz: I was playing Trivial Pursuit with Ariel and Sarah last night and got a question about who wrote "A Light in the Attic" and I answered too quickly without thinking and said V.C. Andrews

Ha.

i always wonder if the increase in violence can be traced to a single external cause

The heat. I'm not even saying that because of my hotweatherhass!

Now I can't remember what VC Andrews did write. But I know exactly what you're talking about, obv.

Also, my first reaction to Nick's post was "Wait, she didn't write A Light in the Attic?" which makes me a li'l sad.

xp - Flowers in the Attic.

Of course.

TS:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JClFnTobX2E/SvX24HY14TI/AAAAAAAAADU/KvPsMLmouo8/s320/a+light+in+the+attic.jpg v. http://a7.vox.com/6a00d41416098d685e00e398bac0df0001-500pi

I've never read Flowers in the Attic but there was an interesting article in The Believer about VC Andrews that made me kind of curious. But I'm willing to bet A Light in the Attic is better than Flowers in the Attic.

both favorites of my childhood.

oh, i know the heat is involved, but i wanted it to be more dramatic and possibly involve madagascar and/or pirates.

when i read vc andrews books i mistakenly got the idea that consensual sibling incest is more popular than it really is. count that among the things that only children don't get ha ha. i loooooved vc andrews though. so lurid! so scary!

well ,it's time for another unpaid work meeting!

and a light in the attic is 10,000 X better than Flowers in the Attic, but the latter might just be more memorable

Light >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flowers

consentual?
wow i have no idea how to spell that word

conSENSUAL

awwww yeah

i mistakenly got the idea that consensual sibling incest is more popular than it really is

It does seem to be a staple of a certain type of schoolgirl mindset. Also see: Donna Tartt.

i wanted it to be more dramatic and possibly involve madagascar and/or pirates.

I feel you. The mundane reasons we actually kill each other are pretty depressing. I AM A BUNDLE OF JOY TODAY!!!

count that among the things that only children don't get ha ha.

Uh, speak for yourself on that one, lady.

I will eat all the delicious chickens, no matter their source. They have to be delicious though. I will also eat chik-fil-a, despite the religious wackery. I'm sure you all feel better knowing this. I'll buy you a chicken biscuit and we can be friends.

As someone who has no sisters, I can sort of see sibling incest as being a very elite, almost grand thing. The privilege of royalty, dontcha know. I suspect that if I had a sister I would understand how disgusting it sounds.

As someone who has a sister, you are freaking me out.

Yeah, see?

As someone who does not have a sister* you are freaking me out, too.

*insert qualifiers here discounting half-siblings who showed up during my adulthood from the count.

For any normal person nowadays, it's horrifying. But what if you were a pharaoh? Whole different thing happening there.

Nothing but gold and sand and animal-headed gods and never wearing a shirt and growing up being encouraged to do it with your sister. That's some kinda life, man.

if I was a pharaoh, I'd be busy worshiping cats and/or myself

You'd have lots of free time, don't worry

It's. So. Hot.

And. Humid.

I planned on staying inside all. day. long. But now I have to leave the office at least once.

you also have to leave to go home, unless you were going to sleep at the office

Well, like I said AT LEAST once.

OK just making sure you had thought this through completely

so who is coming to pub quiz?

I'll be there. And I get to leave work early today, so it won't be a mad dash to get there!

I will be there. So will Courtney. What time?

I'm leaning towards yes, but on the fence. And yes, that is mostly because of the weather.

I'll get there by 7:30 at the latest to grab a table, hence me trying to find out how many people we'll have. Quiz starts at 8.

Jenny, the weather made me think twice, too, but I'm putting my head down and powering through.

Nick, I will give you a definite answer this afternoon, I promise.

How many ppl are on a team?

I think it's supposed to be five per team? But I think an extra person or two doesn't seem to matter.

I will be there.

Me too.

sounds like we've got at least 6 people then ... I'll try and grab one of the bigger tables or we can split into two teams

i mailed a hard drive with the all the tracks for my record to portland today, so my work is done (except for reviewing mixes and masters)! godspeed little hard drive. now i can finally play video games again.

congrats dude! btw I saw your post a few weeks ago about emailing the first track to people who want to hear it but I'd rather hear the whole album at once personally. If you want someone with an outside perspective to listen to mixes/masters, I'm willing to, though I don't know if I would work well for your kind of jams, since I don't really have great ears in terms of discerning small differences in sound.

Maybe someday I'll put out some kind of solo album. Though I'm also just enjoying posting tracks to my webpage as I make them and not worrying about coherence or consistency.

thanks! yeah, at this point i'm not sending out any more rough mixes to people, i'll wait until it's all final. btw, if you didn't know, chicago's own ben b1low is doing the cover and c4rl s4ff is mastering it.

whoa I didn't know Ben is doing the cover, that is awesome. How did that happen?

Uh, speak for yourself on that one, lady.
you guys omg
i meant "get" like "understand", not like "i'm not getting any play from my brother"

whoops!

i wanted to go with somebody i know, and i really like a couple of the FF's covers, so i asked him.

Amanda, I knew what you meant, but still - as an "only child" from age 6 on, I understood that bro-sis incest wasn't all that popular....

But I do agree with you that it's super hot to think about.

I don't think she said that. I don't think I did either. Though if anyone said such a thing, I suppose it would have been me.

This is the kind of thing I probably would've talked about on ILX five years ago but not anymore.

what, incest?

reminder: i have had no siblings (biological or otherwise) from age 0 --> present, no nearby cousins, no male schoolmates until 8th grade, no neighborhood kids i knew beyond halloween trick or treating. my friends (all female) were either only children or had one sister (only 1 or 2 of them had a sister). at the time of reading these books, i was not familiar with what most people have experienced in this regard. when i read vc andrews, i thought, "oh, maybe this does happen. huh." WHO DIDN'T?!

(not asking for a roll call, weirdos)

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway

btw incest in ancient history (like in egyptian royalty) wasn't really a sexy thing, it was a political thing - often a way for a questionable heir to the throne to solidify power by creating ties with accepted members of royalty

Well duh.

But have you seen their sarcophagi? Cut, buff, and way hot.

If only they'd had "Us" magazine back then. Oh, the catty tomb reviews. Scathing.

It's. So. Hot.

And. Humid.

I am normally the last person to call bollocks on this kind of statement, but it's breezy and 83. Suck it th' fuck up, soldier.

nick, want to help me choose an album title?

sure. you can email if you like.

Apparently King Tut died in part because of various congenital disorders from his incestuous lineage.

see also: the monster chins of the hapsburgs (i learned this in high school AP spanish class)

emailed yr gmail

Huh. It is only 83. But it is crazy humid. I maintain my position.

Apparently King Tut died in part because of various congenital disorders from his incestuous lineage.

Quite so. Though to be fair to them, the Egyptians were hardly hillbillies. They were some of the first to cut people open and actually look at the stuff inside and to try to guess how it all worked. This is a major conceptual leap, from being mutely horrified/fascinated by gory human bits (as we all naturally are) to wondering whether this was all part of some kind of machine that worked not entirely by magic.

But yeah, the concept of the importance of genetic diversity existed in a completely different reality from theirs.

Namely: cold and shamed, lying naked on the floor

xp

There there. Come on, the floor is dirty. Here's a towel. Cover your sinfulness.

I just found a sesame seed on my neck. I thought it was sebum, but it wasn't.

hey have you guys ever seen PIN? it has a really nice look, surprisingly classy for 1988.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um9rXGoMTv8

omg PIN. That movie freaked me the f out.

d had seen it before, but i hadn't and he kept assuring me that i would like it, but i was eeeeeeeeeeeeeh don't want to watch it. then we finally watched it and, for the most part, i liked it. it was totally creepy.

i really just couldn't believe how not-80s everything looked. there were some moments, but it could have been one of those 90s movies like the young poisoner's handbook or whatever that was called. for some reason it reminded me of that.

it's on netflix instant view btw

http://finalgirl.blogspot.com/2009/10/day-23-hes-family.html

re: Pin by the ever excellent Final Girl.

This exchange is making me LOL. It all started with this: http://damncoolpics.blogspot.com/2010/06/madonna-before-after-photoshop-louis.html

Jesse to me, Leslie
show details 3:43 PM (13 minutes ago)
I know that she's looking a little rough, but she has fucking amazing staying power and there is a reason that she is a gay icon - she is a woman who has taken control of her image and reinvented herself over, and over, and over again, and always in a more interesting way than the last. These altered images are clearly meant to be artsy, not just restorative. I don't care if she looks like Roger Ebert or Roger Rabbit, she is still better than 99.9% of the shit out there today.

Jesse to Leslie, me
show details 3:46 PM (11 minutes ago)
I'm completely kidding. Fuck her.

NICK

Jeff and I are going to pub quiz.

Jenny, you inspired me to be annoying on FB.

My life's ambition is finally realized.

Your annoyingness on FB just inspired me to be a semi-jerk to one of your FB friends.

Alert: I love the new Caribou album. It has a lot of bells on it. I am pretty sure these two things are related.

Jesse's posts reminded me of Jim DeRogatis - C/D:

I say classic. He seems like one of the most downright likable guys doing the rockwrite thing today. He's a rockist, yes. He likes Wilco too much, yes. But he writes tightly and informatively, journalistically even, and I listen to Sound Opinions almost religiously.
What say ILM?

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:49 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

[several posts consisting mostly of other people saying "are you high??"]

Here's the story -- it's about Googling and opportunism. See, I was drinking last night (surprise!), and talking to my sometime buddy Neal Pollack, and he was talking about Chicago, and then he started talking about Jim DeRo, and what a big loveable lug he is, and how approachable, and yadda yadda, and I should look him up when I get to Chicago, and we could have lunch (a horrifying thought), and I thought, "Yeah. Lunch with a man who makes a fair amount of money writing about rock." But then I started worrying about all the awful things I've said about him on this board (becuase he has the most awful tastes ever: Rush and Queen made his 'great albums' page), and I thought maybe I should start a thread about how he's not so bad after all and I listen to his show all the time (even though I don't), so that in case he's out there lurking or Googling, I might still have a slim chance of his not stumbling on rotten things I've said about him. Cause you don't want to have lunch with people who hate you, and guys like Jim might get me a job one day. But now, in the cold sober light of day, I'm all like, "Waitaminnit! Jim DeRo sucks!"

And this is why coffee is better than beer.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, June 19, 2003 8:58 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Alert: I love the new Caribou album.

I like it a lot, too. I'm going to try to go to this.

Ooo that would be pretty sweet. Maybe it will coincide with a period of temps in the low 70s and 0 humidity.

I like the Caribou album fine but Sarah likes it a lot so we might try to hit M. Park for that show

maybe i need to give that album another shot

i never really listened to the whole thing, but remixing 'sun' both made me appreciate some of the things he did and also kinda ruined it in a weird way

or maybe i just thought i would snap if i heard the word "sun" one more time

This is hanging around outside my office window:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1047/4725193619_4374cf5716.jpg

I stood up on my desk to take the picture!

Creepy.

So I think I missed most of the discussion about The Wagon a few threads ago, but I just finished it last night and wanted to talk about it a little. I have to admit to being a little disappointed in it. I really liked that Prieb was trying to tie his experiences into some sort or overall narrative of the city, but I couldn't help but feel like he just wasn't quite there. A lot of his philosophical musings seemed to twist and turn without reaching any sort of direction. I also feel like some of his imagery that started out fresh kind of petered out as the book ran on. My biggest complaint was that there wasn't more actual stories about his years on the beat, he hinted at tons of stories - but there weren't really that many individual moments. The ones that were present were great, but I hungered for more. Those gave me more of a peek into the city than his rambling passages. I did like the parts where he talked about his union involvement, wouldn't have minded more about that - maybe explaining a little more about his fear. It was a decent read, but I guess it didn't really live up to my expectations. Also, I feel like the proofreading was done in a hurry - I noticed quite a few missing words and punctuation.

Anyway, rant over, but I figured there was more likely to be people who have read it in this thread than in any book thread or whatever.

"or" = "of" in that third sentence, speaking of proofreading

Waiting for fraking ever for a brown line.

This one, by an NYPD officer, might be more satisfying.

Ooh, that looks good. And much more substantial than The Wagon, going to have to look out for that one. Thanks.

While I think its totally a great thing that the Blackhawks and the Cup will be in the Gay Pride parade this weekend, I'm also very glad I have other obligations and won't be able to go this year. I couldn't deal with that many more people.

Guys, I just remembered that the point values of the last round were doubled, so I think I really fucked us over.

I know, I know, you all don't care.

I'll deal with it on my own.

John, it was not your fault, it was just a completely understandable oversight.

What the hell time did we leave? I just got home. I walked the whole way! I kept thinking there would be a bus. That didn't happen, and by the time I decided to take a cab, I was already too close to home to justify the expense.

xp Can't sleep... Isabelle's gonna eat me...

I just had an adorable and drunk young couple on the train try to convince me that I should go to another bar with them. I declined. How would that not be weird after about 15 minutes? Especially since I'm a good decade older than they are.

I appreciated the friendliness, though, truly. I smiled all of the rest of the way home.

I'm really happy about the Stanley Cup and Brent Supol being in the parade. It's been really encouraging to learn about the Burke family, too. http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=buccigross_john&id=4685761

Jenny, that is a really nice picture, even if it is of a spider.

xp - swingers?

No way.

I took a picture.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/couple.jpg

Not swingers.

What is that picture supposed to prove? Are you implying that they do not look like swingers?

I'm ass over teakettle in love with the Blackhawks right now. The playoffs were surprisingly interesting, as was the Stanley Cup, but this Pride thing (plus the stuff about the Burkes) really sealed the deal.

This reminds me: a friend of T|m's has two decks that overlook the the porch of a condo that a bunch of Blackhawks live in. He said that they see them sunbathe in their underwear sometimes.

Tim? Tim! Beware the googling of Tim.

Today's groupon is fucking absurd.

I hate life because of today's groupon.

reasons john's minor error didn't "fuck us over" in pub quiz:

1. we lost a lot more points in the one-hit wonders and dead or canadian rounds than in that final round
2. we wouldn't have done as well as we did without john's answers on the river lengths match round (and other rounds too)
3. we still came in second place! I think we've only come in second one or two other times?

I think it was one-hit wonders that really messed us up, that was a much harder round than I was expecting.

Me too! I was expecting if there was any round I could participate in, that would be it. I did learn a lot about pre-pub quiz prep which I will pit to use for next time.

anyways, I didn't get the Groupon email today for some reason so I don't know what Jeff is talking about.

you mean that hokey "wellness tour"? lame.

So dumb. Pay to come on a tour of retail outlets that you could otherwise enter for free! Oh and some yoga! Pfffbt.

Sorry for my melodrama, guys. I'm over it now.

xp - It's just sad that someone would pay for that. Imagine the humanity on that tour.

honestly john i kind of miss your melodrama ;)

The movie quotes were rather difficult. Like, I could have watched both of those movies yesterday and still missed a couple of those. It's useful to be reminded that I am not as clever a monkey as I usually assume.

And I have no idea what that picture is supposed to prove.

cubs are going to have a float in the pride parade too btw

I'm trying to convince Jeff that we should rent a hotel room on the Mag Mile on Pride Day. I kind of hate fun right now.

If you pick the Hard Rock Hotel, I can wave at you from across the street. Except that I won't, because that would be a little bit creepy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/theweaselking/main5/868f3376.jpg

hahahahaha

watching the Univision broadcast of the US/Algeria World Cup game and it's weirding me out that the Spanish for Algeria is apparently "Argelia"

nailbiter!

usa! usa!

I have actually enjoyed watching some of the World Cup games. There's still a lot about soccer I don't understand (the apparently random extra time added to the end of games, why players clear the ball to areas with no players from their own team, etc.) but it's hard not to get swept up in it. Especially enjoy watching the Spanish-language broadcasts so I don't have to listen to commentators.

Speaking of nail biters, on the bus this morning I sat next to a grown person who kept gnawing at his nails and then using his spittle-coated fingers to paw at his iPhone and I wanted to whap him in the head with my book.

Also, my window spider is gone. Down came the rain and washed the spider out.

watching the Univision broadcast of the US/Algeria World Cup game and it's weirding me out that the Spanish for Algeria is apparently "Argelia"

I thought that was weird, too -- wondered if it was a typo at first.

the apparently random extra time added to the end of games

Since the clock never stops, even for injuries, the refs add time at the end of each half to compensate for whatever time was lost through "stoppages." It does seem so imprecise, though.

A bird just shit on my head/face/shoulder when I went to take Rudy out.

No! That sucks! At least you were not on your way to work and can run inside and clean up ASAP!

true

looky
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1261/4727251179_72c69fb42f_m.jpg

I totally believed you.

The extra time is one of the primary reasons I hate soccer. Why does it have to be a big secret? Just have it on the visible clock.

When you watch it on TV, it usually is on the visible clock!

Wait! I was wrong! The spider is still there! Holy shit, that is one seriously tenacious spider. It's re-webbing my window as we speak. Wow.

I suppose I'm going to start calling her Charlotte.

usa usa usa usa usa usa usa

hi guys

how about Carlotta

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlotta

I really want to see the Joan Rivers documentary. I'd kind of forgotten that she's still out there. And I'd almost totally forgotten that she's really funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knxuG_hYe-8

"Come in the den, bring a banana, get on your knees. Mommy wants to talk to you."

amanda, you like burt jansch right? he's playing at martyr's tomorrow

I loved that documentary and I love Joan Rivers. I always KIND OF loved her, especially in recent years, but this movie crystalized that feeling. I want to be her grandson - she is so sweet to him. And she's really good to her employees, too, apparently.

This thread has been sadly neglected today. I think it needs another video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOCcRfQq7no

Fred's voice is stuck in The Wonder Years.

Here is another video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhiNM42S_i0

Goddammitalltohell it's supposed to storm like a mother fucking during the commuting home window again. And this time, I can't stay at work because they are cleaning our carpets, which is very much akin to polishing a turd, but whatever.

Storm like a mother fucking.

ARE YOU SHITTING ON ME?

Good luck. Take a cab.

Hey, we're both going to be living in Lincoln Park, so we won't have to wait forever for cabs like you have to in Lakeview.

Our new place is still in Lakeview. Also it is less cab rich than our current location, but seriously, our current location is kind of the platinum standard as far as taxi availability goes.

Rally, that's lakeview? Oh, is that bc you're on the north side of diversey? Regardless, you get the reference.

amanda, you like burt jansch right? he's playing at martyr's tomorrow
yes, i do. i saw him at the EB a few years ago and he was touring with ali roberts but then he got sick. now i think meg baird is opening? i like her too, but i'm on the fence about the show.

This makes me wish I'd watched more of the tonight show when I was a kid. This woman is hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWncIpPuNJo

Favorites: "You have knockers. I have doorbells."

"She saw a sign that said wet floor, and she did."

Whatever happened to the delicate art of the one-liner?

The light outside is bizarre. It's completely cloudy, but there is an amber light that is strong enough to cast shadows.

there's a giant full arc rainbow near my apt!

Kr took these about an hour ago:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2yunija.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/s1jivl.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/24mte03.jpg

First one's not as cool of a photo, but it was a sweet rainbow.

saw some wild sun/cloud interplay on the way in from WI this evening + a lot of crazy lightning

http://a.yfrog.com/img683/9159/kowg.jpg

Awesome.

nick and sarah - I LOVE YOUR KID SONGS

thanks!

really like the cover for Jewel Osco's new chillwave album, "TCF BANK"

Jenny/jeff, did you use an effect to alter the storm and spider pics? They look like Hipstamatic.

what's at the top right of that picture coming through the clouds
is that a space ship?

Yes, it was hipstamatic.

I got one good picture of that weird amber sky. From the Berwyn el platform:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1022/4730474350_72cfbe693e.jpg

oh DANG
yours is the best i've seen so far

That is awesome. Prob because Kenan is the only talented photographer among us (well, among Kenan, me, and Jeff). Although Kr's pics capture the weirdness of the light really well.

Well poop. I messed with the photo, and it vanished.

here:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1022/4730474350_76777d21a2_z.jpg

I looked this up: that cloud type is called mammatus. Mammary clouds. That's right, breast clouds. The sky grows thousands of boobies. Nobody knows exactly how they form, though they are most often associated with the tail of a particularly strong thunderstorm.

i admire the restraint you show by not making a cumulonimbus joke.

I'm missing something. What kind of cumulonimbus joke did you have in mind?

none

C[umulonimbus] on your M[ammatus].

cumulotitbus

I'll sb myself for that

today's misdirected email:

Jordan

how are things going? my prayers are that you will not be discouraged as He is preparing you and the position that He will open up in His timing. Pro. says " the mind of man plans his way but the Lord directs his steps" .
i'm so proud of you , the choices you have made, and the integerity that is apparent in your life.
Keep on, keeping on and trust in the Lord with all your heart.

love you

dad

oh my

that's a good one

Who is "Pro"? Prophesy?

Correct his misuse of the comma.

Keep on keeping on!

It's good advice.

Grammar Pro says: Strike the comma between "Keep on" and "keeping on."

dear dad,

i read your email and i've been thinking about it a lot. my response to you is best communicated in song, so please listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M8vei3L0L8

love always,
jordan

Hahahahaha, nice.

Ugh. This web department has a severe "too many cooks" problem. Listen, I know you three (that I know of) department co-heads all reserve the right to change your mind at any moment, but that rather defeats the purpose of templating.

hey, anyone know of an easy-to-use web design program for pc? the last time (~6 yrs ago) i tried to do a band website i used some super-simple html editor and a ton of trial & error, but there's got to be a better way.

I recuse myself from answering that question for having designed this website: http://scarequotes.net

ha. maybe a bandcamp site is enough these days anyway.

i used some super-simple html editor and a ton of trial & error, but there's got to be a better way.

There's kinda not. My suggestion: use Wordpress and tweak one of their templates until it suits.

Heading to hyde park!

Okay!

Look for me waving out the window @ 60th St.

1 week from right now I should have all my shit moved into the new place!

Okay!

Much amusement

Hay, courtney just suggested brew n view tonight @ 730. All are welcome. We're both going. Come!!

I'm the music guest at Sketchbook, so can't. What's showing?

I've been on the go since Saturday, movies sound interesting but I'm afraid I gotta pass.

Somethng w tina fay.

Have youse ever heard the phrase "passing period" to describe the time between classes when students travel from one class to another?

no but I <3 that you say "youse" which is a pretty yoopery word (elsewhere too obv)

Date night at 7:30; Kick Ass at 9:30. I am only planning on going to the first movie...

Have youse ever heard the phrase "passing period" to describe the time between classes when students travel from one class to another?

Yes, what else do you call it?

never heard of that

That sounds like a good Brew 'n' View night.

Philadelphia, too. In fact, per Wikipedia, "youse guys" is commonly heard "in the U.S., particularly in New York City region, Philadelphia, Michigan's Upper Peninsula and rural Canada." That's a pretty random collection of geographical locations for that particular bit of slang.

Yes, what else do you call it?

"in between classes," IIRC.

I kind of suspect "passing period" is a greater Chicago metro area thing, maybe.

I suppose if I needed to call it anything, I would call it "the time between classes when students travel from one class to another".

I've got an official use of "passing period" before me on my desk, so I'm cool with the usage in this context. I just wondered if anybody else had heard of it. I even had the Beloved AA call her high school aged son, who confirmed that he called it a "passing period."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu3TiqmQ9Ec

Boys make passes, in between classes, at girls who wear glasses.

I kind of suspect "passing period" is a greater Chicago metro area thing, maybe.

First page of Google hits includes a website for a school in Norridge, IL, but also student newspapers for schools in Palo Alto, CA, and Carson, CA.

Somebody draw me a Venn diagram representing populations that say "youse" and "passing period."

I had high-school teachers who said "youse."

The fastest texter in the U.S. (there's a competition for that??), who is from Des Moines, says "passing period":

(727): Now, as a student, I have to ask how much illegal texting goes on in class

(515): From me? Barely any. Hah. i definitely wait till passing period. But everyone of my classmate do… its crazy.

I would be interested in Brew n View but we saw Date Night when visiting my parents (it was better than I thought it would be, had some good laughs in it if you like Tina Fey and/or Steve Carrell)

(I've also found Wyoming, Texas, Florida, Washington, Arizona, Missouri, Nebraska, and Kansas.)

It seems that as with eighth grade graduations, southern Delaware is the outlier here.

Well, except Amanda (OH) and Kenan (TX) haven't heard of it, either.

Maybe it's an AGE THING.

i've never heard of it, and went to hs in the western burbs of chicago.

the piece of hs slang that sticks in my memory is "BFE", which means butt fucking egypt, for somewhere omg far away.

Boys make passes, in between classes, at girls who wear glasses.

And how.

Maybe it's an AGE THING.

Quiet, you young whippersnapper, you.

we said BFI (idaho)

Where does it put me that I immediately think of the British Film Institute?

In Trafalgar Square.

I want a t-shirt that says BFNYC

I never heard passing period in my wide ranging schooling.

Hyde park is pretty cool, but I will be sticking to my doc's north side office going forward. Shitful commute, worsened by taste of chicago.

Dr. K referred me to a really great GI doc, in case anyone needs one. He and dr. K had 3 phone conversations about me while I was there and another one after I left. Super attentive dr.

I didn't think bfe was regional.

What the GI doc's name?

Dr. 4dr3w 4lb3rt.

He called Dr. K and said "Hey there, Professor!" and they joked around a little. Dr. K seemed to have my chart right at his fingertips b/c as soon as Dr. A asked how long I had been on a med, Dr. K answered, to the month. Same w/ my cholesterol history. Either he knew by memory, or he had already pulled my file in the event that the other doc called. Either way, Great!

Dr. A took lots of time to explain things and ask a lot of questions. I'm a fan.

Ok, this.

http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780307475237

Sample advice:

Dear Aziz ((Ansari)),

I just saw my grandmother's tattoos. Suddenly I don't want tattoos anymore. (That was the saddest-looking unicorn I have ever seen.) Is there a way of getting rid of a tramp stamp without expensive surgery?

Mikayla
Mississauga, ON, Canada

Dear Mikayla,

Unfortunately, there is no easy way out. The best thing to do is to get tattoos that age well. Perhaps a tattoo of a young Michael Caine, which will age gracefully into a tattoo of an older Michael Caine. Another option is to get a huge arrow tattooed on your back. Have it point to the tat, and at the top write, "I really regret this and I promise I'm not a whore."

Aziz

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Hello. My cellular telephone is nonfunctioning today so if anybody was planning to call me, that is not going to work out for you, so either email me or call me at work.

Speaking of... Has anybody heard from Jesse today?

in a gutter w/ tomas somewhere prolly

Hi everyone! I'm fine. I took the morning off work.

Either he knew by memory, or he had already pulled my file in the event that the other doc called.

or maybe, computers?

Please call Courtney and tell her that you are not dead, Jesse.

No, call her and tell her that you are.

Or call Courtney and tell her that you are, she'll freak out.

damn, xp

What's wrong with your phone?

I called her and she didn't answer, but then she textes me to ask where I was. Weird.

I was at Duncan Donuts and at home disassembling ikea furniture.

U ARE ALIVE
I AM DEAD

WOOOOOOOWOOOOOOWOOOOOO

Text message(s) sent.

L'Étranger

I've been thiinking lately how jenny and I are a lot like Mersault in ou reactions to the atrocities of summer.

Its sweet of you guys to be concerned. It's also testament to how much I am online. I.e., waking hours.

I didn't answer because I had an armload of bathing suits in Target. I was shopping and contemplating your death.

Either he knew by memory, or he had already pulled my file in the event that the other doc called.

or maybe, computers?

― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Friday, June 25, 2010 12:27 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yes, but what I meant was that there was no "Hang on while I look that up" - he had it available right away.

I wish more people were on here. I'm in need.

That's no way to entice an audience. Instead of "I'm in need," try, "I'm fun and awesome."

Well, it got you to post, didn't it?

Cake is better than pie.

the outpouring of concern this morning didn't satisfy the craving?

Well, that was nice, but I want some magical ILX banter.

anything else while the fish in the sea is still taking requests?

Cake is better than pie.

This is like saying that sex is better than love. Can't we have both?

We're getting a new office doggie!

yes, but for the sake of disagreement, cake is better than pie.

Agree or disagree: Cheesecake is both cake AND pie.

Here's the thing, Kenan: fuck you.

just kidding - hugglezzzz!

That didn't work out as I would have liked.

I am both offended AND horrified.

:)

(and strangely turned on)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CdYPU_IkVBk/SebvmQTUYVI/AAAAAAAAAYY/fD4H1h4s-Ew/s400/Tongue+Monster+from+Mars+copy.jpg

bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccccccccccccccccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

John, when is your ep of jeop airing?

otm xp

July 26.

Anyone want to come to the parade tomorrow? Courtney and I are going. Dan, do you want to come? TBrokes is going, apparently.

I was not planning on going to the parade but I have a meeting this afternoon at Belmont and Broadway so I might accidentally going to the parade whether I want to or not.

If it keeps raining, nobody may be coming to the parade.

Jesse -- if I come, where should I meet you?

Broadway and Waveland. Or Halsted and Waveland.

Hey, keep it down out there.

And don't have sex in the porta-pottys.

There will be people at the parade regardless of the weather. They started gathering in the midst of the storm. Gay pride is waterproof.

Kenan, i hope you are bringing your camera, and i look forward to your photos.

And also, don't have sex in the portapotties.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs147.snc4/36688_445523091069_713441069_6462618_2929074_n.jpg

Sample enjoys the Pride parade.

She is actually seething in anger. Not enjoying.

will someone please draw blinking red death rays coming from her eyes

I'm grinning imagining her eyes looking like that owl that someone put in a box, photographed, and posted on the internet.

http://izismile.com/img/img2/20091006/owl_in_box_04.jpg

Well FYI setting up a meeting at Belmont and Broadway during Pride was stupid. Took am extra half hour figuring out how to cross Halsted, meanwhile getting sunburned and sweaty (I decided today was a good day to wear jeans and a heavy Tshirt). Then only one other person came to the meeting. And now there are no brown line trains.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/7/9375102_b421d834aa.jpg

sorry for being grouchy earlier. Pride looked like it would be fun if you meant to go to Pride and weren't just trying to get somewhere else in the neighborhood.

If trying to get to a professional meeting while it's hot and crowded with crazy drunks is not a good excuse to be grouchy, I don't know what the hell is.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs017.snc4/34196_417937218304_567543304_4415199_5112057_n.jpg

I'm sorry I didn't find Jesse and Courtney. I showed up and all, but unsurprisingly the crowd was a bit thick around there, and I couldn't call as I didn't have my phone. Which is my fault. Anyway by the time I showed up I was already unhappy at how nasty and sticky I felt, and didn't want to do anything in the world except to ride my cute little bicycle butt back home. So I listened to the needs of my soul and did nothing else but that. I didn't even get my camera out of my bag. Instead I showered, didn't towel myself off at all, turned the ceiling fan on high, flopped into bed, and slept for many, many hours. (So many hours, in fact, that I'm now awake at 4am on Monday morning, and feeling like a vivacious young go-getter. Timing is not my thing.)

This was probably my last pride parade - I sweat through my shorts and got an awful sunburn that makes me look like a redneck clown.

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/184964/Insane+Clown+Posse.jpg

L to R: Courtney, Shaggy 2 Dope

Courtney, nobody could see your shorts sweat. The only way we saw it was when you spread the material and we squatted. No one thought you'd peed your pants.

i ran out of coffee yesterday at home (shocking! i know!) so i bought a bag of metropolis from the coffee shop across the street. IT IS AMAZING. i don't think i can ever go back to trader joe's morning blend after a week or two of this. good lord.

I've been drinking the New Orleans coffee with chicory for a few weeks. I don't even really like it, the chicory gives it a vaguely moldy taste in my opinion, but our neighbors gave it to us for free and it's going to last forever.

I like chicory coffee, but it tastes funny black.You kind of want to drink that with sugar and cream, I think.

Hey, speaking of NO, are any of you watching Treme? Opinions? I read a lot of good things about it, but Courtney and I watched the first episode and really, it was pretty much meh, except for all the NOLA scenery.

I'd like to watch it, but I figure we'll just wait for it to come out on DVD.

^

I will say though that I love John Goodman in it.

He's angry.

i just finished watching treme season 1 (sarah is dog-sitting for some friends who have it 'on demand'). it's definitely flawed...in the wire, it worked to only have a few key details about each character, because it was enough to move the plot along. but in treme, it's supposed to be about the characters (and the city, of course), and i never got a great sense of why the characters did what they did. even though they're based on real people, certain things just weren't sold dramatically imo.

aside from that, i found it really watchable, but i'm not exactly unbiased. i've met and/or played with a ton of people who show up in the show, and get the references, so of course it's fun for me to watch and pick things out. i can totally see how someone else might find it a little alienating, impenetrable, or boring if they don't care about the subject matter.

I'll totally keep watching - at least for a while - for the NOLA-ness, but If it weren't for that, I don't think I would. Maybe it's what you said about having few details about characters. Only 1 ep. in it's hard to say) but it seemed like a LOT of mundane stuff kept happening and happening, but I wasn't sure why I should care. E.g., yes, the trombonist is broke and has baby-mama problems and he hustles cabbies a lot, but what felt like they should have been one-time scenes to establish those traits were the bulk of what we saw of him. Same for other characters.

I hope I don't sound too critical...

One show I am not complaining about is Breaking Bad. Though it makes me feel kind of icky sometimes b/c of the drugs and shady folks, I am loving it.

Yeah, ditto, except for all of the episodes I had to skip because I couldn't stand to be even that proximate to tweakers. Ugh.

Where are you in the show? Maybe you should tell me in an email since N&S are waiting for season one, disk one.

Legal news for today:

1. US Supreme Court found Chicago's gun ban to be unconstitutional and tossed it back to the lower courts to figure out how much gun regulation we can have and still comport with the second amendment.

2. John Burge is guilty.

yeah I said this on the Facebook update thread but someone I was friends with 20 years ago who is apparently a gun nut now posted some celebratory thing about the gun ban being overturned and I was tempted to link him to the news story about 54 people being shot in one weekend in Chicago a couple of weeks ago

http://www.theonion.com/articles/8yearold-accidentally-exercises-second-amendment-r,725/

1. US Supreme Court found Chicago's gun ban to be unconstitutional and tossed it back to the lower courts to figure out how much gun regulation we can have and still comport with the second amendment.

Ugh. Remind me: why was this argued separate from DC v. Heller? Because D.C. is a federal jurisdiction?

Yes:
The landmark 2008 decision to strike down the District of Columbia's ban on handgun possession was the first time the court had said the amendment grants an individual right to own a gun for self-defense. But the 5 to 4 opinion in District of Columbia v. Heller did not address the question of whether the Second Amendment extends beyond the federal government and federal enclaves such as Washington.

Yes. Although I have not read the very long decision, my understanding is that an outright ban is unconstitutional, but the Supremes remanded it to a lower court to determine how much restriction (waiting periods and stuff like that) are okay.

In related news, there is also this: http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/2439474,two-hurt-shots-uptown-crowd-062710.article which is of course where I teach and so I am often hanging out there on that corner waiting for the bus. Perhaps I should purchase a handgun so that I can defend myself against random and unexpected drive-by shootings.

I am actually kind of ambivalent about this decision. I read or heard somewhere that most guns that are used in crimes are not legally owned by the criminal, but someone originally legally purchased it and then handed it over to the person who uses it to commit a crime. So if that is true, making it easier to purchase guns legally is going to make things even uglier.

But then we've got a respectably high murder rate and we're one of only two "no-issue" states (or we were, meaning that there's no way to get a permit to carry a handgun), which suggests that the handgun ban is not serving its intended purpose of keeping violent crime under control. Now, this does not mean that I think that flooding the market with legal hand guns is going to solve Chicago's violent crime problem problem. I'm definitely not in the "the crime rate will go down because nobody will fuck with us since we might be armed!" camp, because I just don't think that the majority of shootings are the sort that are defensible by a show of superior firepower (see: Wilson and Broadway shooting, plus also collateral damage, gang violence, etc.). But I do kind of wonder if maybe other factors (most of them revolving around municipal funding and there being enough police to handle high crime areas) are more significant than where the guns are coming from.

Basically, and I have nothing to base this on, I suspect that this won't make much of a difference either way, except for a rise in accidental deaths of the sort that happen in homes with guns. From what I've read, most cops are really, really happy with this decision and the cynical part of me wonders how long that will last when homeowners with legally owned handguns start shooting cops by accident.

I understand gun advocates' arguments, I do, and I'm largely sympathetic to the Nuge mindset of being able to shoot your own food. I don't mind hunters too much, probably because I've reaped the benefits of a chest freezer filled with venison. Mmm... elk.

Anyway, I still feel like guns are a bad thing to have around (they make killing yourself WAY too easy, for just one of a few dozen powerful anti-gun arguments), but I think that any measure of gun control short of actually taking away everyone's guns, plain and simple, and making gun possession a felony in all cases, is a limp half-measure. And we're never going to do that, ever. So hell, whatever. One shitty half-measure of a law is as good or as bad as none at all. Shrug.

xp Jenny totally OTM.

http://media1.suntimes.com/multimedia/062810burge1_cst_feed_20100628_15_25_43_40181-282-400.imageContent

Two things I hate about John Burge, in addition to all of the other things there are to hate about him:

1. His last name shares too many letters with mine.
2. He looks like my grandmother.

OH NOES A GLIMPSE OF YOUR FUTURE

brb. I'm going to go beat people up and start working on my silver hair helmet.

On the plus side, it appears to be very aerodynamic.

One of the girls I went to college with, who moved to Texas with her boyfriend after graduation and subsequently became one of the biggest Repubs I know has been ecstatic all day about the decision. A couple months ago she couldn't shut up about "states rights! states rights!" and how the federal government should stay out of local decisions. Interesting to see how her feelings changed on this one.

I'm going to get a bitchin super soaker.

As I learned stocking the water toy aisle a few weeks ago, Super Soaker does make some pretty bitchin' water guns. Some pretty intense ones too.

Weird, I responded to you, jenny, but it failed to post. I'm at s01e07 of breaking bad.

I'm ambivalent, too, about the scotus ruling as it relates to hand gun crime. Accidental shootings will probably go up, I suppose.

I can't wait to read about Burge. I wonder how prison will teat him. Specifically, will there be vengance?

People who cry "states' rights!!" as justification for being rightwiners Are fucking annoying.

I just had a run-in with the leader of the nuts-but-looks-normals at Jewel, where he jumped the line for the self-checkouts as I was pulling up to a register. He was late 30s, bearded, petitte, clean, polo shirt and khakis. Before I could finish saying the first two words of "Excuse me but I was ahead of you" he roared "I HAVE ONLY ONE ITEM YOU FUCK!" He flinched when I shot back "And you were in the back of the line, YOU FUCK!"

Before I could get too puffed up, he lost his everloving shit and went "I want security tapes pulled! Call the police! Where is security! This man needs to be arrested! It's common courtesy to let someone with one item to the front!"

Another register opened up, and I said, "It's all yours - hurry up." He stopped babbling and said "No!" By this time I thought it was pretty funny, so I said, "OK, then taking your fucking time!"

The manager and cashier attendant came up and apologized to me because apparently this is his usual routine at the Jewel (he overheard them and left his register to scream at them). A little gay bald man met me at the door and said "Good for you, I hate that guy."

So what does it take to get banned from the Jewel on Berwyn?

Probably tl;dr. Point is: I thought I was going to be slain at the Jewel in just the nutty and hilarious way that I would like to go.

So what does it take to get banned from the Jewel on Berwyn?

Try shitting in your hands and rubbing it in your hair and then jumping to the front of the self checkout line.

please change your display name accordingly, you fuck

Holy shit, Dan, you're right!

I'm wondering if Kenan knows this fuck. Seriously, though - if this happens all the time, shouldn't he have to wear a bell? If I see him again, I'm going to shit in his train bag and tell him it's Sunday.

I haven't seen this guy, I don't think. That's crazy.

I get my Paxil delivered to the office by UPS and the UPS guy always calls out "Here's your Viagra!" and how we laugh.

They took out the Rainbow and the Rainbow Plus downstairs and are putting in a PNC Bank. They totally missed opportunity to put in a sweet Pay/Half or a second Payless or a third Dunkin Donuts.

Lady bug, lady bug
fly away home.
Your house is on fire
and you're children are whores.
And where is that boy who looks after the sheep?
Blowing somebody behind the Pay/Half.

Ahem.

(credit to Jenny)

Wait, what am I right about?

Oh, changing your display name? Of course.

Jenny's post was 97 characters and I could only use 80, and there was some loss of funniness as a result.

do i accept a facebook friend request from this guy: we were tight freshman year of high school, he played guitar in my first metal band for a little while, then he moved away and now he is "take no prisoners conservative"? we had some awkward myspace messages during the last election. do i add him and filter him out, ignore it, or add him to see kinda sad but also lol updates?

In your position, I would probably add him, have my lols, and when he started annoying me, unfriend him. That's pretty much my FB pattern.

I generally add, troll, lose interest, block.

okay it's all bible quotes and stuff like this:

"We should make the poor uncomfortable, to kick them out of poverty"
-Ben Franklin
"lets just keep extending unemployment indefinitely, while destroying the economy, and doing everything in my power to keep more people on the government doles"*
-Obama
*not an actual quote

I would take Dan's tack, normally.

I hid the gay Republican, but went back to look at his profile and it's the same thing every day: nicknames for Sarah Palin (e.g. S@r@hcud@) and things like "Oh, sorry, I don't have time to save the whales - I'm too busy VOTING REPUBLICAN! LOL!" (actual quote)

He apparently loves female politicians - he is always going on about "goddesses" like Carly Fiorini, but also Hillary. It's pretty clear that he fetishizes women in power.

i hide those people from me (they are in a former student quarantine and cannot see my wall/status/links), but then keep them around my feed for larfs/trolling until i get sick of them or they say something really offensive and i defriend

I have reported one "friend" several time for groups he has created*/other awful shit he has posted and nothing has happened... So I just troll him harder, the only problem with that is that he's a huge 4chan style troll moron too so it usually doesn't work. Making fun of the Blackhawks is comedy gold, howevs.

*"using 'GAY' as a synonym for stupid" for example

some of my favorite larf-inducing fb friends are the ones who post stuff that is so boring that i can't imagine anyone thinking that it's interesting:

"well, it's 1AM and i'm still doing housework. i wonder if it'll ever end lol. the kids didn't sleep well last night and we're going to the county fair tomorrow. hope they're not too hyper. stop by our trailer if you have time. we have plenty of drinks and kleenex!"

(this is an amalgam of many different people's unbelievably boring posts)

only person I've blocked on Facebook is an ILXor (not CHILX) and it was just because he posted too often (like 10+ times a day) about really inane things

I've been pretty lucky at avoiding nutty/overconservative friends but the two people I'm "friends" with who I went to middle school with in Yugoslavia both seem kinda douchey - both really into guns (one is the guy who posted the thing I talked about on here yesterday), ugly expensive sports cars, and cigars.

I have "blocked" as in made it so they can't even see or find my profile or see anything I type and vice versa one ex-boyfriend and every relative on the B-----s side of the family that I can find, except for one cousin of whom I am inordinately fond (the one with the restaurant in Richmond).

I recently went through and defriended a shit ton of people and it was awesome.

Let me tell you about my first world problems:

I got a chocolate milkshake from McDonald's and they 1) put it in a clear plastic cup with a dome lid on it; and 2) put a bunch of whipped cream and a maraschino cherry on top of it. This bummed me out. It was also super insane crowded in there and a pan-handler took a shine to me and would not leave me alone the entire time I was in line.

Also, McDonald's chocolate milkshakes, contrary to my recollection, are kind of disgusting.

Sarah did research and McDonald's milkshakes contain almost no actual milk - I think they use a very small amount of some kind of powdered 2% milk? so there's basically no calcium in a McDonald's milkshake at all

Also I recently wrote some pretty bad lyrics for a song called "Talk About Your First-World Problems" that I am never going to use.

Did Sarah determine what actually IS in a McDonald's milkshake?

I feel doubly absurd now since I went to Walgreen's for Lactaid pills before going to get the god damn milkshake.

well a quick look online suggests Sarah may have been wrong. I don't know what she was talking about. PREGNANCY BRAAAAAAIN

Sarah did research and McDonald's milkshakes contain almost no actual milk

years and years ago, someone told me that mcdonald's ice cream here is more "real" than elsewhere because of the mighty wisconsin dairy lobby. i like this theory, but it's probably bullshit?

McD's milkshakes are super disappointing. The McFlurries are good, though.

How do we feel about Frosties?

I remember liking them, but clearly my memory regarding frozen dairy (maybe) fast food treats is faulty.

I will say this: orange swirl shakes from Arby's taste like fucking baby aspirin.

R was talking about Frosties a while back, swearing up and down that "everyone" ate a combination of fries dipped in Frostie as kids. I never heard of this (then again there was no Wendy's in my home town) but she said it was all the rage. Anyone?

This is also coming from a woman who big ups peanut butter and lettuce sandwiches btw.

As someone who was never too far from a Wendy's growing up, I have never heard of dipping fries in Frosties until just now.

I don't know if dipping fries in your Frosty was ever "all the rage," but I think it's pretty common for kids to do so, mostly because you go to Wendy's and you get a burger and fries and Frosty, and they're all sitting there on your tray, and eventually you get curious. And hey: not bad!

Not sure about PB&Ls, though a few times when I was a kid I mixed peanut butter with spaghetti.

I don't know what is blowing my mind more. That someone has never heard of dipping fries in a Frosty (or other milkshake for that matter) or peanut butter and lettuce sandwiches.

Fries and milkshake/frosty is like the ultimate salty/sweet, crispy/creamy, hot/cold snacking balance.

Peanut butter and lettuce sandwiches are just an abomination. Sorry, R.

haha Jenny she had a similar reaction to my disbelief on all points, as well as basically saying the exact same salt/sweet/hot/cold explanation. Guess I'm the weirdo (never rly in doubt).

See, while I generally enjoyed most of those combinations as a kid, the thought of cold French fries utterly disgusts me.

I had never heard of Frosties and fries, but someone we know told me it was solidly in the category of A Thing.

No no no no the french fries aren't cold. You dip them while they are hot and then eat them immediately.

No, the fries are hot and the Frosty is cold and they both go in your mouth that way. You dip a fry in the Frosty, you don't mix them up! xp!

i never did that as a kid, but i wasn't allowed to eat at wendy's because james a rhodes was a major investor :-/

For some reason I don't think I had Wendy's until I was like 18, so all this talk seems rather strange

i didn't either! i still haven't really shaken the feeling that wendy's is sort of republican.

i mean, who could order burgers and fries from a company partially owned by this guy,

At a news conference in Kent, Ohio, on Sunday May 3, 1970, the day before the Kent State shootings, he said of campus protesters:

"They're worse than the Brownshirts, and the Communist element, and also the Night Riders, and the vigilantes. They're the worst type of people that we harbor in America."

Look, people, this treat is not limited to Frosties. It works with any fast food fries and any fast food milkshake.

xp worse than Night Rider? That's fucked up!

http://happyhourvalley.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/hoff-knight-rider-mustang.jpg

yeah, he was super fucked up

jaymc, what did you write on the new c4n4st4 album?

I had no idea about Wendy's republican connections!! zp

always suspected there was something up with those square burgers, now I know

i don't even know if it's true beyond ohio -- i just knew that jim rhodes was a cretin and he owned stock in wendy's and we weren't going to contribute to his evil agenda.

Many xposts, I understand the concept... but I don't like the thought of making my perfectly tasty hot French fries cold by any means. I'm not stupid.

btw next time you want a milkshake -> chocolate malt from Potbelly's. They have disgusting sandwiches but their milkshakes and malts are pretty dang good

They are really good! I actually wanted a McDonald's milkshake, though. Or at least what my brain had decided a McDonald's milkshake tasted like. LESSON LEARNED.

I might have to see if any of the concessions at Toyota Park sell milkshakes tonight after all of this talk today.

I like Potbelly's sandwiches and their milkshakes. And their cookies. And their chicken salads are pretty good too.

Wendy's started in Ohio, didn't it? Dave Thomas was from Dublin, IIRC. Dublin, Ohio, that is.

I've never dipped a fry in a milkshake, but I have heard of it. As a child, I never really got a lot of milkshakes. Why get a milkshake when you could get Pepsi and satisfy your childhood caffeine addiction.

Jordan:

There aren't any songs on the album that were written from scratch after I left, so I've rehearsed all of them, and I'd say I helped write most of them, to varying degrees. After a song has been worked on for a while, it's sort of hard to remember who contributed what, but I know that at least four tracks (1, 2, 7, and 8) started out as chords or riffs that I brought to the band.

― jaymc, Thursday, May 6, 2010 10:38 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I had a snack size oreo mcflurry, hold the fries.

I had never heard of the fries/milkshake thing. Though, 1) I find the idea pretty disgusting and 2) agree that it seems like kids will combine their foods in as many permutations as possible, simply out of curiousity.*

*Unless that kid is me and insists on eating all food items separately and in succession. For example, I love both pie and ice cream, but consider one on top of the other something of an abomination.

ATTENTION: Jesse and Courtney* and I are planning on biking to the 3 Floyds Brewery on Monday, July 5th. Anyone who is interested should join us. And, if you're interested in the brewery part, but not the biking, you could meet us there!

*I'm not sure Courtney actually knows this, but Jesse suggested she would enjoy it and I concurred.

according to Google Maps, it is an 11-hour bike ride from my house to the 3 Floyds Brewery

leave the house at 7 a.m. on Monday, get to 3 Floyds at 6 p.m., drink one beer, get back on my bike, get home in time to start work at 5:30 a.m. on Tuesday

11 hours? It says a little under 3.5 for me.

Me, too, but it still sounds like a ridiculous idea.

weird, I plugged it in again and this time it said 3.5 hours. I must have misentered it the first time.

that is still too long for me and my old as hell bike
my knees would be useless nubs at the end of a day like that

Ridiculously fun, you mean! I'm just going for the ride, since dr. K put me on the wagon.

Katie, it's not just a kid thing. Also. Courtney knows and is in.

Do you even have a bike?

I think 11 hours must be for walking.

Or maybe it's Google's assessment of my bicycling abilities.

it gives you 6 hrs leeway for fixing flats

Or resting your ass and wondering what the fuck you were thinking.

i guess that would be ok one way, maybe, but two ways? too much for this one.

you guys last night i hung out with a friend from hometown who is here for work and i haven't seen him since i was 22. it was SO weird. i felt like i was living in the future.

i guess that would be ok one way, maybe, but two ways? too much for this one.

Yeah, I was thinking the same. I'm tempted to meet you guys there, though!

When I do the late ride, it ends up being just about 40 miles with no stopping, so I think this should be fine. Plus, I figure we can always hop on the south shore commuter rail or metra on the way home. IT WILL BE AN ADVENTURE (please, everyone, put it on your calendars so you can come rescue us when we call).

jaymc-you should meet us there!

Yes, I have a bike, you dingdong.

HOWEVER, Katie? We need to talk. For some reason, I was under the impression 3 Floyds was closer to the Lakefront Trail. I get the terror when biking streets, so I don't think this is going to work for me. The distance is no factor. Unfortunately, I think it's very safe to say that Courtney also shares my reluctance for street biking.

(I recognize completely that this fear is irrational and that this bike ride is otherwise totally reasonable. It's not you, it's my paranoia.)

oops - xp!

Also HOWEVER - has Bike The Drive already taken place? I would completely do Bike The Drive and The Late Ride (sponsored by McDonald's: "I'm LOVING IT!!!!")

Bike the Drive is on Memorial Day weekend, I believe.

(sponsored by McDonald's: "I'm LOVING IT!!!!")
ME ENCANTA!

Sadness. Maybe Tomas will bike with me and the rest of you can meet us there. I'm not foolhardy enough to attempt this ride completely solo.

Sorry! I was hoping to overcome this stupid hangup, but after I cracked my egg last winter, I sort of decided that it was a Gift Of Fear.

Kind of amazing to watch this trip materialize and dematerialize over the course of a couple dozen posts.

haha

i have a candy pro tip for you:
get a bag of cheap caramels (usually $1 or less) and open them up. then jam some large sea salt rocks into them, just a few per caramel. (any salt will do, but rock salt is more explosively flavorful and salty)

blam, instant expensive-tasting delicious candies. eat one or two with hot chocolate. if you want to go nuts, dip them in chocolate and then eat them with hot chocolate.

I hear that head injuries really suck. At least, I think I heard that once. I can't remember very clearly.

Wait... where am I?

I really should not have ridden my bike to work without a helmet this morning. If I plan to do this with any frequency, I need a new helmet, stat.

"Ridden" is not an elegant word. When an English verb is irregular, it's really quite irregular. It's like you bought it from the dollar bin at TJ Maxx.

I do believe I am going kayaking. This is not a euphamism.

Or a euphemism.

Thanks for making me imagine what "going kayaking" might be a euphemism for. Oh man, is this ever dirty.

This could be a lot funnier, imo: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kayak

Let's go to work, ppl.

Jenny, where are you going kayaking? And when?

The Brits apparently think it's funny that we say "gotten." Also "burglarize."

I want to ride my bike to work, but I'll probably end up riding down the Lakeshore Path and taking a bus through the Loop.

This could be funnier, too: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hush+puppies

Everyone knows that "hush puppies" are when you put each of your feet into a separate person's rectum up to the ankle.

Ugh. Fine. I went to Urban Dictionary at work. I need to use Incognito Chrome windows for that.

Also "burglarize."

I was actually just thinking about this the other day: how no one says "burgle." I guess they do in the UK, though?

i wish i could unread kenan's post

That makes two of us.

I love the word "burgle."

Jesse, I'm taking a lesson on Aug. 1 and I don't know where this happens. Somewhere along Chicago's lovely Lake Michigan coastline. Someone else is taking the lead on this; I'm just tagging along for kicks.

Wow. I look forward to hearing more about this.

Yes, the Brits say "burgle" which is ridic - it's the sound the Hamburlar makes. Ergo, the Hamburglar is British.

"Gargle" is also a great word. "Garble" is also right up there. Ugly, guttural, teutonic sounds that somehow work trippingly on the tongue.

I thought the Hamburglar said "robble."

Oh. You're right! Ha.

So he's not British, just stupid.

I like to say "burgle" but pronounce it with a soft g, like my name.

Hey guys, to ask a question that's already been asked 900x: Can you-all suggest some hiring/staffing/recruiting services? R is job-hunting. I have N0rth Bridg3 and 1st @ssociates already. I know there were other suggestions but can't recall names. Looking for accounting, bookkeeping, and general "office bitch" type jobs.

"office bitch"

her words fwiw

Does she want temp work or is that just her default? Because I will give my general response that she should check out job listings for the state at w0rk.illinois.g0v (made unclickable b/c I don't want any referrals - sub "o" for "0" obv). There should be some office stuff available there.

Not default. Is that just one option out of many, I think I wanted to say. I'm having a hard time with this "communication" today.

I think at the moment she's going for whatever. M0nster has all these listings with 'only local resumes accepted' so it seemed like the recruiting/staffing angle would be better since she could say "I am going to be in Chicago starting this date". All options are totally welcome, the more the merrier, please and thank you!

I'm sure you thought of this but she could also just use your address for a "local address" until she's actually in town and has a place

I don't remember what temp agencies I used anymore. Plus that was like 6 years ago so I don't know how helpful they would be.

xp actually we didn't! thx

http://www.newoffice.com/

^^^that's one I couldn't recall! thanks kenan

I of no use, sorry.

You guys, 24 hours from now I will be moved, finally. Since looking at the apartment, I went from being thrilled, to worried, to terrified, and now back on the thrilled side. If Petsmart on Broadway were still open, I would be 100% back to thrilled.

So when's the housewarming? :)

I think I'd like to have one, though my new place is quite small, but with no porch to spill out onto. onto which to spill out

out onto which to spill

You'll have to invite us over in shifts, four at a time. I call the 7:00 to 7:30 p.m. time slot.

phrasal verb + antiquated prescriptive grammar rule got the best of you haha

I know how to spill discreetly.

Gl0bal empl0yment s0lutions is another recruiter I used at some point.

how could i have missed salt n pepa and bell biv devoe at the stupid taste of chicago, but remembered in time for...rob thomas :-/
boo

amanda, as you may aleady be aware (perhapst through the "best albums of the year so far" thread), there is a new alasdair roberts album out. I have it but haven't listened to it yet.

also, I can't believe I forgot to vote in the best of 2005-2009 poll. I barely read ILM anymore tbh, but I fear this will taint my enjoyment of the poll results.

new other than spoils?!

Yes! Entirely new! Though it is traditional songs, not originals. It seems to have kind of flown under the radar, drag city needs to get its act together. (though actually it just came out yesterday).

Info here: http://www.dragcity.com/products/too-long-in-this-condition

oh right! i was going to preorder that and then i didn't and subsequently forgot about it.
will buy! as i mentioned on the other thread, i love love love when he does traditional music. love it. i can't wait to see what songs are on there!

!!

omg i have never been so excited to hear a new version of 'barbara allen'

OMG. I just read on FB that these exist!!!!!!

CHEERWINE CREAM FILLED KRISPY KREME DONUTS

That's it. Once my lease is up, I'm moving back to NC.

Uh... that is pretty gross.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

You need a time out.

Amanda, who's your cuckoo clock repairman?

I don't know what CHEERWINE CREAM is, but donuts are gross all by themselves.

Yeah that's right. I went there.

Well, that's just plain nonsense.

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/06/daley-proposes-liquor-pushcarts-at-airports.html

Hahaha:
tt on June 30, 2010 4:47 PM
Why do we want to encourage people to get drunk before they fly??? Just so the city can make more money? Please. Why not legalize drugs then and distribute heroin at the gates?

I am for that plan, but only if there is some guarantee that all of the taxes from the sale of that liquor will be used exclusively for the purpose of making the Chicago airports better. Especially O'Hare, which (I'm sure I've noted before) ought to be #1 on the city's Shame list.

I don't care if the funds go to Daley's own personal heroin fund. As long as there are more ways to get drunk at the airport.

Also, I hate midway more.

Heroin at the Gates
Denis Johnson (2007)

What are you, a Bing ad?

I prefer Midway bc it's small, but I haven't noticed either being shameful to our city.

The mere stink of Southwest drives me away from midway. Also the long ass distance you have to walk from the green line. And it's a more expensive cab ride from my apartment.

Hmmm, I am a firm devotee of both midway and southwest...what do you hate so much about southwest??

I guess the thing with O'Hare is that it's a very central hub, and one of the top few busiest airports on the planet. But it's falling apart, and getting stuck there for hours is almost a local rite of passage. Or hazing ritual, more like. It doesn't say good things about the city when you have one of the two or three most important airports in the country, and you don't maintain it.

xp I hate the cattle call seating and their randomly enforced "NO FATTIES" policy, such that I avoid SW because I could conceivably get booted off one of their planes.

Main thing about southwest is the seating. Hate the system. I'd rather pay more and get a better (assigned) seat.

SW's seating is a little weird, and it used to stress me out, but I've gotten used to it.

It's just that almost all my SW flights have gone smoothly, and that certainly can't be said of those with other carriers.

I was unaware of their "no fatties" policy and that is way fucked up.

I think most major carriers have those policies, which I do think is pretty fucked up. The criteria is usually that if you can't get the armrest down or need more than one seatbelt extender, you have to buy a second seat. The thing w/ Southwest is that there's no assigned seats, so you can buy a second seat but there's no guarantee that you get the seat next to you, so it just ends up really fucked up.

I can lower the arm rest and don't need a seat belt extender at all, but SW's application of that criteria is notoriously uneven, so I just steer clear to save myself the hassle.

The cattle situation changed btw 2007 and now. Now it is not just A B c, but also 1-50something w/in those categories. That seems a little better, I guess. But I get not wantin liking being put in a situation of being made to compete for a seat at that stage of the process. And the no fatties thing is shitty, tho I didn't know that was specifically a SW problem. Xp

Just tripped on the sidewalk, fell on my face and skinned my knee. In my cute new dress! What an indignity!

Does southwest have 1st class seating? I don't use it often but I like the option.

Sorry about your knee and your face, Amanda.

Jeff, I think I saw 1st class, but I'm not 100% sure.

Amanda, let's talk cuckoo clocks.

dude's name is jim, found him by googling, will email you the scoop

OK, but I'd just as soon you tell me here, in front of all our friends.

well, if you must know, he wants you to drop off your clock at the lincoln antique mall so that he can give you a free estimate. it's 3315 w irving pk rd, just east of kedzie. the end.

Amanda, I hope your face and your knee are okay!

Thank you. Face is ok, knee is banged up and ouchy :(

Could be worse.

Thanks, Amanda. I will probably ask you again.

Do you have a picture of your cuckoo clock?

maybe? i dunno. i can take one if you really want to see it, i guess, but it's lying dead on top of my record shelves.

No big deal. I'm just sort of curious.

Where are my movers? I'm at a standstill here. They're four minutes late.

So let me give you some highlights of the dream I had last night:

I worked at a summer camp for animals as an animal wrangler because I had the ability to talk to the animals in a meaningful way. Animals with whom I enjoyed dream time adventures include: 1) a chimp wearing preppy clothes; 2) a raven who it turned out was actually my dead grandfather; 3) many cats and small dogs.

I was very close with the gay camp cook, and he gave me a tattoo on my back that consisted of a rose motif that connected the two tattoos on my shoulders and a series about ten dictionary definitions of words, starting with "diverting" as meaning amusing or entertaining and going in dictionary order from there.

I wrote a country song, and when I woke up for real I actually remembered it! And I said to Jeff, "I wrote a country song in my dream and I remember it!" and then he sang, "I GOT FRIENDS IN LOWWWWWWWWWW PLACES" and that made me forget my dream song.

Hey, if anyone wants to see some funny, weird short plays I"m directing up at The Side Project in Rogers Park, I've got $5 tickets for all my bros this weekend.

Finally heard Nick and Sarah's baby songs and love them.

thanks Eric

Amanda (and others) - when you make fish tacos, do you put cheese on them? I like cheese on tacos but fish + cheese seems like it might be weird? We have extra sharp cheddar and feta.
We bought the panko-breaded tilapia from TJs for the fish tacos.

Last night I made these savory tarts with leeks, zucchini, red potatoes, dill, and feta. They ended up really good but the recipe was kind of weird in that it called for a frozen pie crust, but then wanted you to take the crust out of the pie pan and roll it out to make it bigger and flatter, which frozen pie crust isn't really designed to do. Also the amount of filling was waaaaaaaaaay more than could possibly fit in one crust, so it's a good thing frozen pie crusts come in sets of two.

I did not put cheese on fish tacos. I did put avocado on them, which served the same purpose that cheese normally does on a taco.

what jenny said
also peppers/onions

i personally would not put cheese on fish tacos

Ok thanks!

hey I just posted this on facebook but friend of CHILX M@x Br00ks wrote the cover story for this week's Reader

Oh! I read that on the train this morning and meant to ask you if that was Our Own Max.

i am attempting imitation xoco dinner tonight
will let you guys know how it goes

yeah ... he was working on this story a while ago, seems like it went through a pretty long editing process since it was his first story for them, then maybe they held on to it for a while after that

Ugh. Moved. That Him for pro movers, but damn, it's still hard work. At least my bed is put together. I wish someone would deliver me a fruity margarita and a wifi connection as soon as I get home.

And a couch and a solution to the cats v couch problem.

BTW, Wolley was good. Worked fast and were pretty cheap. $317.50 + tip, done in 3 hours. They had to supply me w some materials (a box, shrink wrap), otherwise it would have been under $300.

I dreamed that I was being thrown out of my apartment, but instead of the usual eviction proceedings, the landlord and all his maintenance men let themselves in, threw my smaller stuff haphazardly into boxes, and rearranged all my furniture. This struck me as less than legal, even in the dream.

i hennaed my hair and now i smell like the mid 90s

Hahahaha

I just got flashbacks to sitting on my front porch with a plastic bag tied around my head waiting for the henna color to "set."

oh yeah, i had that and also the hair dryer out to "intensify" the color. turned out pretty well, but what an ordeal. still, it only cost me $3 because i only used half a box on account of not having that much hair. and now my hair is a different color, so hey.

I have a box of henna that I bought sometime in the last year thinking that I would go back to the all natural ways. But I read the directions and yeah, what an ordeal! I am trying to figure out how I managed to regularly henna my hair when I lived on people's couches and in an attic sublet that barely had running water, but now that I'm a grown up and have my very own bathroom and everything it just seems like way too much of an undertaking.

Maybe because now I compare the henna process - messing, smells like spinach, plastic bag-headed - with the process of going to a salon and paying someone I really like to color my hair and stand around and shoot the shit with me. The latter is more expensive, but way more fun.

i hadn't colored my hair at all for a long time and i forgot how fun it is to look in the mirror and not see the same old thing

Hearkening back to a previous conversation, we're renting our new place from an individual dude ("landdude") rather than a property company for the first time since we've moved to Chicago, and so far it is going very well. He painted the whole place and is replacing the not too awesome carpet in the living room with new hardwood floors and while he's at it, refinishing the hardwood floors in the dining room and the kitchen. Pretty sweet!

I used to love to color my hair. I've done bleached (always a bit yellow), blue, green, and, most memorably, pink. I remember having a short pink fuzzy helmet of hair and wearing a shirt with this image on it:

http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/002/041/0000204132_350.jpg

Which also places these events at a certain place in time.

Henna time.

haha
i saw the lineup for that matador anniversary shiz in vegas and was just like...wow, but no thanks. i mean, it would be fun if it were easy to attend (ie in chicago), but i have already seen most of those bands that i want to see and i'm just not that into nostalgizing that period of my life just yet. i have the next 50 years to do that, and i'm not ready to cling to the past that hard yet.

I wanted to go to that just to see the reunited Chavez. They've played a few shows but I think they've all been in NYC.

Also Faith No More is doing a huge reunion tour but only played three or four shows in the U.S., all in NYC, Philly and California.

:(

I'm not going to dye my hair today but I am going to try and eat at Kuma's. Hope that works out.

I don't think I would see the classic gbv lineup. We went to the final shows and there were classic members there and I really don't think they can live up to expectations.

Amanda and Jeff both very OTM. I am still enjoying (and also in some cases, cringing at) my memories of that period of my life, and currently am more interested in doing new things than getting nostalgic for the 90s. Not that nostalgic for that period is a bad thing. It's just definitely not where I'm at right now.

My spiderfriend Carlotta is still with me, by the way. Yesterday I watched her eat the shit out of a bunch of little flies she trapped in her web. It was supercool.

"Carlotta" makes me think of the movie Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid.

"Carlotta was the kind of town where they spell trouble T-R-U-B-I-L, and if you try to correct them, they kill you."

I'm into personal nostalgia but suspicious of mass-marketed/commercialized nostalgia.

i saw the "classic" gbv lineup a bunch of times during the "classic" years and that was great, not to be improved upon. also i never liked the idea that gbv is an indie band at heart. they're totally not. that was just like a blip on their recorded output up to that point and even after. and really, while it's great and all, isn't like THE BEST stuff they ever did even though people's nostalgia tells them so.

i just wrote and erased an elaborate gbv injoke that no one would get but basically what i wanted to say is that there was stone classic shit up to the end so "classic lineup" is really "indie rock lineup" imo. whatever.

i just wrote and erased an elaborate gbv injoke that no one would get

Try me

I don't really think it's "nostalgia" to want to see an awesome band that I've loved for 15 years but never got to see play live.

basically it was related to this song, which i think is one of the best album closers ever and encapsulates the gbv spirit 100%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGYvY2unqVo

if that's what you think you heard, then that's what you heard

Dripping with heaviosity.

last song on the last album and it's named after a place in dayton with historical significance
and it's great
so "classic lineup" -- whatever

Hey, let's talk about Pavement, you guys! I'm much more well versed in the Pavement area.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPxbBh7kbdw

Butthead and I share feelings about small talk in the barber's chair. Small talk in general is unpleasant, but when you can't make an excuse to walk away, it's just cruel.

I prefer the early 2000s line up playing the classic songs.

I remember turning Jody W. onto Pavement in college, and then she later got into GBV and was like, "John, you *have* to listen to GBV" and while I saw some similarities between GBV and Pavement (esp. the collage-style lyrics and song titles, which is the kind of thing I was super-into back then), their songs always seemed just a little too tossed-off to me. I mean, I know that's kind of the point, but I wasn't inherently fond of the fuzzed-out '60s-pop template that the songs I heard seemed to rely on, so I had trouble mustering much enthusiasm for them.

jeff otm, but classic extends back well beyond bee thousand or propeller
hey know what -- i am from ohio, where the wright brothers were from, but you are from nc, where kittyhawk is.

I've never been able to get too heavy into GbV either, and that kinda stuff is like my wheelhouse.

slightly confused as to why gbv aren't "indie rock" -- aren't they one of the top 5 archetypal indie rock bands of the 90s?? They sort of helped define the genre, if it was really even a genre at all

xxp Birthplace of Aviation vs. First in Flight

I don't really think it's "nostalgia" to want to see an awesome band that I've loved for 15 years but never got to see play live.

That's also true. That's definitely why I went to see the Pixies when they did their first reunion tour, whenever that was. The only band from the Matador line up that I wish I had seen back in the day but never did is JSBX, and I guess I don't have any faith that they will be any good. See also: Urge Overkill opening for the Pixies and in the process, ripping my heart out of my chest and stomping it into 1,000 pieces on the stage.

YOU KNOW I was going to talk about Pavement vis a vis my personal unreadiness to revisit the 90s in a nostalgic way! I listed to CRCR the other day and actually turned it off halfway through because I really wasn't feeling it, and that was strange. Although I was super psyched to hear "Rattled by the Rush" last weekend, so who knows. Maybe I am only ready for singles.

JSBX is kinda goofy but I bet they are pretty great live.

For some reason, pavement is one the few bands from that era I can still listen to with great pleasure.

I think the difference between where Nick is coming from and where I am coming from might be related a little bit to age in that I was in my prime show going years during Matador's prime record releasing years, where by the time I started listening to the Pixies (1990) they were pretty much finito so I never got to see them play. So it's kind of like nostalgia vs. missed opportunity.

I've seen JSBX live twice. Fuck yeah, they're great live.

Were, I should say.

"Were" being the operative word. NOW I GOT SKEPTICISM.

Heh. "Extra Width" still works for me, more than the others for some reason. It's... uglier.

Yeah, JSBX did put on a stellar show the one time I saw them (New Years Eve, 1997, Metro). But I'm going to Sunday's Pitchfork lineup (w/Pavement) instead of Saturday's (w/JSBX).

whereas I love Pavement but I imagine they're snoozy live

I would go if it were Boss Hog.

isn't Malkmus just doing this to help Bob Nastonovich pay off all of his track-related debts?

I missed most indie rock of the 90s, but did see Pavement at a bar in Minneapolis, back when the drummer was working the door and making toast for the crowd. I have 0 memory of the actuall show, just the smoke, the crowd, the toast, and the drummer's pre-show and between-song acrobatics.

actual

That's ok, the drummer has no memory of that gig, either.

Wow, that must've been an early Pavement show, cuz that drummer sounds like Gary Young.

My thought exactly

On some days my favorite GBV album is Isolation Drills.

I like all those bands now but when they were really popular I was way into punk so I kind of disregarded them. Except the Pixies.

However if anyone wants to nostalgize for like Bad Religion or Jawbreaker I'm up for it.

I started listening to Bad Religion in 1998. It was probably my gateway from radio music that I listened to after just listening to really bad radio music in high school.

Sort of late to the game. That was the year of No Substance which was pretty awful.

Listened to Jawbreaker around the same time but didn't get into them to the depth that I did BR.

My only real experience with Bad Religion was listening to (and enjoying) "21st Century Digital Boy" when it was played on Q101 in 1994.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5ra5-rAoH0

<3

damn, that was supposed to include this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5ra5-rAoH0

I WANT TO CONQUER THE WORLD
GIVE ALL THE IDIOTS A BRAND NEW RELIGION
PUT AN END TO POVERTY UNCLEANLINESS AND TOIL
PROMOTE EQUALITY AND I FORGET THE REST

that album totally reminds me of my junior year of high school

i was never really into them beyond that though

Bad Religion: C or D?

What I thought 9 years ago.

aww that's tender

i listened to 'no control' again just now to see if i remembered the words
i did

This is punk rock:

http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/306477012/IMG00068.jpg

Awwww!

There's a really solid chance that I was at this show. Can neither confirm nor deny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J73DX3S98Y

I've never even farted about Bad Religion, let alone processed them in my prefrontal cortex.

I'm not saying that because I think it makes me awesome or anything.

Farting about music is like crapping in your hands and rubbing it in your hair about architecture.

It's a dimension of architecture that you can't put on a blueprint. "That building is fantastic." "I know. I smell it."

Have Jenny I talked about Leslie's shock at her friend recommending Pavement to her? Her reaction was "they're called PAVEMENT." It was like someone had recommended a bad called Gaydolf Anal Shitler Cunt.

Things that will always be funny to me, an updated list:

1. Are you fucking me?
2. Are you shitting on me?
3. "Gaydolf Shitler"

This thread really has taken a turn for the worse.

Why do you hate it when I laugh at things?

It was before that.

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/3773/1278109787026.jpg

Thread redeemed.

And how!

I am sitting outside of Starbucks on Diversey at Broadway enjoying a decaf iced coffee and some spectacular weather. (Starbucks' wifi became free as of yesterday!)

I LOVE my new neighborhood. So many restaurants and stores, loads of street life, tons of hot men going to and from Ballys), a Chase ATM, the lake is a couple blocks away, I can see the Landmark Theater from here, and there is sushi less than one block from my apartment.

Being able to walk to Blood Bath three times today has saved my sanity and made my place livable quicker.

And I have a place to put my cat turds on the way out of the building.

It's a little Palinesque to say it, but I feel like I'm living in REAL Chicago for the first time.

(All I talk about my move, because all I'm able to think about is my move.)

I'm in O'Hare right now for like the third time this year and figured someone here might know - what's the deal with the crazy ass Logan's Run-esque disco tunnel that connects terminals B and C?

It's been here since I remember but I never flew through ORD until a couple of years ago. Was it some 80's remodeling project?

I don't know but I like it. It is strangely calming.

It was playing some sort of synthy deconstructed version of Rhapsody In Blue when I went through tonight - is it always the same song?

Isn't it supposed to be somehow related to the Great Lakes?

I don't know about the music, but it's always something trippy.

Huh, apparently I'm wrong, but

The digitized and flashy tunnel is typical of Jahn, who long ago appropriated the nickname “Flash Gordon” from the popular comic strip, and is famous in Chicago for his controversial design of the James Thompson Center.

http://blueprintchicago.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/ohares-united-airlines-terminal/

I feel like lots of airports have kind of psychedelic tunnels between terminals. Orlando has a particularly crazy one with neon lights.

http://images.travelpod.com/users/dangabesisaak/3.1223409240.chicagoxs-oxhare-airport-tunnel.jpg

It's a little Palinesque to say it, but I feel like I'm living in REAL Chicago for the first time.

That's less Palin-esque (we're talking Sarah, not Michael, right?) than it's just wanting of further elaboration.

I guess I mean that its more big city dense and active here. It's more the core of the city, which is what I have wanted since I can remember.

I remeber I was 4 (or had just turned 5) and I was in Pendelton, OR w my dad and I said "I'm a city boy."

He was not at all amused or pleased.

You are funny ha ha.

Jesse, let's go for a run next Saturday. 7:30 AM.

we were up in Lincoln Square for brunch and every single one of the German bars was full of people cheering on Germany in the World Cup at 9 a.m.

So NICK last night (this morning, actually) I had a dream that you worked for Sears in some capacity and one of your responsibilities was to record their outgoing voicemail greeting and I called Sears for some reason and your outgoing message was a song that you wrote and sang about Sears in the style of the FFs. It was a pretty good song!

this is the second song you've dreamed in the last week
maybe the universe is trying to tell you something yenny

Question: What is your favorite Italian restaurant in Chicago?

Anteprima, no question.

I don't think I have one. Not the biggest Italian food fan. I'll say Angelina Ristorante by default. Not a recommendation though. I know, helpful.

side question: Is it true to say Italian food isn't very trendy at all right now? I feel like you don't hear about fancy new Italian-themed restaurants opening up these days. It's all either MEATMEATMEAT or some kinda French/Asian/etc fusion thing (which seems really 1980s).

Anyways I ask because I like Italian food but Sarah and I are the types to fall into ruts where we find one place we like and keep going there. We pretty much always go to Piazza Bella which isn't even amazing or anything but it was one of the first "nicer" restaurants we went in Chicago, we've been there a bunch of times, it's nearby. I like Buena Terra a lot but we haven't been there since we moved out of Wicker Park and closer to Piazza Bella.

Anteprima looks good. The menu at Terragusto looks pretty amazing right now too. Still haven't been there.

Is Terragusta the one where we tried to go but couldn't get a table even though it was empty? I would like to eat there one day.

I actually would recommend Angelina's. I think it's really good.

The Pasta Bowl was pretty good. Not fancy by any stretch of the imagination, but it was cheap cheap cheap.

Anteprima has a great prix fixe thing on weekdays, but it's still special occasion expensive imo. But still AMAZING. And excellent seafood choices as well. Try the squid/potato starter. It's among the most delicious things I have ever eaten. They also have great digestifs (?) if you're into herbal/floral/weird tasting liqueur.

I'm just not into pasta and bread enough to really dig most italian food. Pasta without some kind of serious other calories along with it affects me like sugar. I experience a pasta crash.