We're jingling baby!
Saturday, 26 June 2010FIFA World CupUruguay v South Korea, 16R, 15:00USA v Ghana, 16R, 19:30 Sunday, 27 June 2010FIFA World CupGermany v England, 16R, 15:00Argentina v Mexico, 16R, 19:30
Monday, 28 June 2010FIFA World CupNetherlands v Slovakia, 16R, 15:00Brazil v Chile, 16R, 19:30
Tuesday, 29 June 2010FIFA World CupParaguay v Japan, 16R, 15:00Spain v Portugal, 16R, 19:30
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 26 June 2010 13:41 (fourteen years ago)
GOOD LUCK USA
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 13:41 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xnNhzgcWTk
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 26 June 2010 13:42 (fourteen years ago)
Kinda depressing that ITV feels the need to spell out the fact that Diego Forlan is actually quite good, no really. Apparently this is a surprise to us Britishers.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 13:48 (fourteen years ago)
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/085j5XH7LqbyJ/x610.jpg
He's ready.
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04Z02acf7F2Ip/610x.jpg
They're ready.
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 13:50 (fourteen years ago)
Watching this match now at JFK, watching the later one on the flight. What a handy world.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 26 June 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago)
cool, i love watching the games in random unfamiliar places sometimes. caught the portugal ivory coast game at train station.
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 26 June 2010 13:58 (fourteen years ago)
God, yes, that was bad. Was good that they noticed Uruguay were playing this afternoon though after ten minutes of England's possible line-up for a game not starting for a further 24 hours.
― ailsa, Saturday, 26 June 2010 13:59 (fourteen years ago)
far better than german tv tbh
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago)
blimey
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:05 (fourteen years ago)
It was the right title, well done gentlemen.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:07 (fourteen years ago)
Hopeless
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago)
What happened there?
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago)
oh dear
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago)
Slick.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago)
ouch, goalie.
― StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:09 (fourteen years ago)
is this gonna be a massacre
― iatee, Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago)
That goal didn't seem quite real, it seemed to unfold in slow motion, it was like Suarez had just been teleported in at the far post.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:11 (fourteen years ago)
What a let off that was for Korea. Uruguay are so much more incisive, can't see any other winner here.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:28 (fourteen years ago)
Don't think so, but anything can happen, both teams look capable of scoring.
― StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago)
oh wow you can just join in and chat on ITV Online - so much trolling to be done. or not, maybe
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
do let us know how you get on
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago)
leave it ahht they ain't worf it
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago)
You don't have permission to access http://live.itv.com
They probably knew I was going to say "ban l0uis j4gg3r" :-)
― StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:42 (fourteen years ago)
The Uruguayan keeper looked about 14 in that close up
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago)
Is this Craig Burley? I hate him, whoever he is.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
Yes it is, and I'm not surprised.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:47 (fourteen years ago)
Craig Burley is terrible. I've sort of zoned out of listening to him now, but he makes ESPN (and Setanta before that) almost unwatchable.
― ailsa, Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:50 (fourteen years ago)
who was that fucking idiot doing the chile - spain game
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:52 (fourteen years ago)
Jim Beglin?
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:54 (fourteen years ago)
I feel like I ask 'who is this dick?' every time Burley's on - he doesn't even have enough personality to be annoying in a memorable & satisfying way.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:56 (fourteen years ago)
it wasn't beglin but beglin is a convicted moron
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:57 (fourteen years ago)
they're all such pandering futtocks
Just noticed my 7/8 group betting quadruples has me up £30. <3 this world cup!
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:59 (fourteen years ago)
Congrats, even if I don't know what that means.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:01 (fourteen years ago)
Burley's really bad on Scottish football because he has a massive chip on his shoulder about the way he left Celtic and can't get over it enough to even pretend to be neutral. He's just shit at this international lark though.
― ailsa, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:06 (fourteen years ago)
Just read that Uruguay's population is roughly 3 1/2 million. Can this be right? Thought it was much larger than that. If so they're pretty amazing for having a player pool less than half the size of London.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:06 (fourteen years ago)
No, that's right - I think it's about the same size as the UK, but almost empty outside Montevideo
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:08 (fourteen years ago)
Korea doing much better now
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago)
I was expecting Uruguay to look a bit sharper on the break than this.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:19 (fourteen years ago)
glad to know life's been good to lee dong-gook, what with marrying an ex-miss korea.
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago)
Game on!
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
1-1 Well deserved!
― StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
Game on now
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
OOOO totally deservedha xpost
― p-dog, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
uruguay hadn't been convincing me at all
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
Goalie should have let the defender deal with that
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
First goal against Uruguay in this tournament as well!
― StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
xpost to ismael - most prob a better term for it, i wasn't really paying attention. what i bet was singles (each team to win), doubles (team a + team b winning, or team a + team c etc.), triples (duh), quadruples (yup) at like 30p each. Only Italy did me wrong but my Ladbrokes account is looking mighty healthy right now.
KOREA! BAD KEEPING BY THE CHILD! GAME ON!
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
someone on ITV chat earlier said 'SK will only score from a set-piece...they need to win more free-kicks'. OTM I GUESS...FOR NOW
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
No room for joy in Burleyworld. Wouldn't say that was a goalkeeping howler exactly.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
Burley is close to adopting Barry Davies' voice and crying "When will they learn!" re Uruguay sitting back with the lead.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:29 (fourteen years ago)
if this goes to ET could see Korea stealing it. They're so.... industrious
― p-dog, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:29 (fourteen years ago)
oooh howler
― p-dog, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
Could Suarez have knocked that down for Forlan there?
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
It's weird how watching Man U you sort of somehow don't notice that Park is among the best midfielders in the world?
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
But he really been, this WC?
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
LOL Belgian commentator just saying Park al the time, regardless of who is on the ball for SK. Sometimes corrects himself, mostly doesn't.
― StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago)
oh thats nice
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago)
Class
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago)
Beauty
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago)
one of the best goals in this cup
― Zeno, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
erm...park one of the best in the world??? no.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
yea that was lovely
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
great celebration too!
― p-dog, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago)
That should have been 2-2
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago)
He had more time than he realised. LJ did you vote on man of the match?
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago)
why do they bother with this itv man of the match, why not just say 'okay who has scored the most goals'
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago)
maybe he's just having an amazing WC? He's made two 1-on-1s this match without ever seeming to lose the ball?
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago)
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 26 June 2010 16:45 (11 seconds ago)
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago)
It's either who has most goals or who plays in the prem tbh
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
It's over for SK - well played but overclassed in the end.
― StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
"Uruguay's time is coming again" - no it isn't, they're utterly mediocre
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
Decent game, if a bit on the scrappy side.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, a cliche, but when they had to step up their game after the equaliser they did so.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
tbf suarez was teh nuts today. that finish! and then the even better celebration!
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
no they were bollocks and it was a bolt from the blue - SK still had the better chances
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago)
I hope neither the semis nor the final is played on that pitch btw
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago)
Off and troll itv, l0uis
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago)
that pitch will host one of the quarters and the 3rd/4th game, no semis
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago)
landon donovan reminds me of mattdc
― (roxymuzak) ((((d-.-b)))) (roxymuzak), Saturday, 26 June 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago)
as does Rob Dickinson of Catherine Wheel and Amit Mishra, Indian legspinner. GIS them, it's true
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago)
those two are much closer fits than Donovan, although I see what you mean
rob dickinson does not look like matt dc you cad
― (roxymuzak) ((((d-.-b)))) (roxymuzak), Saturday, 26 June 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago)
he does in this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e3HVzVmGa8
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago)
Mishra's the closest fit anyway
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago)
*clears throat*
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Saturday, 26 June 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago)
yup, that's working
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Saturday, 26 June 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
am behind you guys - decent chance of the semis going by the earlier game
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago)
http://unimaps.com/flags-africa/ghana-flag.gifhttp://unimaps.com/flags-africa/ghana-flag.gifhttp://unimaps.com/flags-africa/ghana-flag.gif
― ultra nate dogg (history mayne), Saturday, 26 June 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago)
gonna bookmark that so I don't see it anymores
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Saturday, 26 June 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago)
hi dere
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4735510285_72f19fd62f.jpg
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Saturday, 26 June 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago)
bornstein stays in, gooch on the bench. clark and findley return
― 156, Saturday, 26 June 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago)
USA vs Ghana
I wish both could progress!
― the pinefox, Saturday, 26 June 2010 17:59 (fourteen years ago)
Exciting!!!
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:02 (fourteen years ago)
so did Ghana really scored only 2 goald till now - and both from penalty kick?
― Zeno, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:06 (fourteen years ago)
y
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:07 (fourteen years ago)
come on both teams! seriously, don't know who to support here. in a good way.
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago)
i'm with the u s of a
― Zeno, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago)
May the best team or Ghana win!
― StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago)
Seriously though, best result is always: that the best playing team wins and that it doesn't depend on some other match's result or the ref.
― StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago)
Yew Ess Ay!
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago)
i usually wants the underdog to win, but not this time:The Americans played so surprisingly well till now..
― Zeno, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:15 (fourteen years ago)
Chrissy from Sopranos telling me baout soccer....
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago)
I know this is obvious but sweet fuck Drury is going to be completely insufferable tonight, isn't he?
― William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago)
Yes
― the pinefox, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago)
BUBBA
SLICK WILLIE
Genuinely fascinated to see how this plays out - could go any way (I feel the same about England-Germany right now too)
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago)
what are the chances of a player spitting while being closed-up?
― Zeno, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago)
spmewhere around 50& id say
Bam!
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago)
wow
― Zeno, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago)
oh great goal
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago)
Ballack killer on the mark
whoa nice finish. Can USA come back... again?!
― p-dog, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago)
Zomg
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago)
That wasn't even that close to the post, big gap there.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago)
Held out a bit longer than v England at least
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago)
Very nice finish.
Ricardo Clark, though. I have never quite figured out what he does.
― William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:37 (fourteen years ago)
Loving Ghana's kit, it's like some South American club side.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago)
Clark u_u
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago)
Bad moments for Clark, Howard and the back line. Ugh.
― pearsonic, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago)
This first ten has really been all Ghana. Seriously impressed by their fire and intensity.
― pearsonic, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago)
usa shock stage
― Zeno, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago)
I don't like this start - Ghana playing really well, and you can't come from behind every match
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago)
Cmon...attack! Anytime you're ready guyz
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, the USA really are not even slightly in this one at the moment.
― William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago)
Agreed with many above.
Whoever USA's right fullback is... wow. He is getting torched on every third Ghanaian rush.
G's defense focusing tightly on Donovan. I predict either Altidore or Findley will have to pick up the slack. Need a goal from either. Preferably, both.
― pearsonic, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago)
Cherundolo another yellow. He'll miss the next match.
― pearsonic, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:47 (fourteen years ago)
Boetang's Ghana stop US now
― James Mitchell, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
"and they want the ball back, predictably enough"
― (roxymuzak) ((((d-.-b)))) (roxymuzak), Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago)
Heh. Heard that as "won". Being as how it was a 1-on-3 (dammit Altidore).
― pearsonic, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago)
Just getting outplayed.
― idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
US should be playing on full burners...it's either win or go home, I don't get why they're playing like this. Ghana all over the ball.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:54 (fourteen years ago)
25 mins played. time yet.
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:55 (fourteen years ago)
ridiculous keystone cops centre back work there
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago)
Bradley from the Jose Mourinho school of management. Not working after 30 mins give someone the hook.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
hmmm, bad time for my cable co to lose this feed.
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
never too late to admit yr mistake
― Zeno, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
Wonder what's worth being subbed after 30 mins or a sub being subbed.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago)
*worse*
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
Ghana playing with impressive confidence
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
good chance, findley should have done much better there
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
could someone point me to a web feed?
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
At this point, neither Findley nor Altidore inspires a whiff of confidence.
― pearsonic, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:06 (fourteen years ago)
http://atdhe.net/20782/watch-usa-vs-ghana
― CompuPost, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago)
Ghana way tighter than they've been in prev games. Calculated now instead of straight up reckless. Impressive, but worrying for US
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
thankign u
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, never for a moment thought Findley would score
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, if Ghana advances today and they keep playing in this manner, they'll be exciting to watch in the days to come.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
They've been holding out on us..
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
ghana manager looks like he had heavy night last night and probably brought a packed lunch to the game in a shopping bag
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
The way they played vs Australia, did not expect such strong, confident play from them
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
What's Altidore's deal today? He's like a zombie out there
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
this is not going to end 1-0
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
File under shoulda-coulda-woulda: start Edu & Buddle
― pearsonic, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
They played like this in African Cup of Nations but always seemed to struggle to get more than one goal. But obviously have a good idea of team pattern of play and used to playing together.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, we were discussing the possibility that he woke up under a bridge/in someone's garden, looked at his watch, went "oh shit" and rushed straight to the stadium.
― ailsa, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
Altidore just isn't very good. US really lack a cutting edge (as do Ghana possibly)
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
usa look dead on their feet tbh. not surprising given they had a lead for like 3 minutes in the whole of the group stage. having to play at full tilt for three games in 10 days.
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago)
otm
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago)
Altidore seems valuable for his ability to draw space / be physical and box defenders out. But he appears to have little-to-no touch in the latter third.
Findley has speed, but neither the physicality nor the touch.
― pearsonic, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
lol Chris Fowler "the US, as always, in a hole."
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago)
LOL at garna shooing away cameraman from their huddle
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago)
Guys like Forlan or Eto'o make such a difference to the potency of these mid-ranking sides.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago)
or Defoe
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
Ghana is terrifying.
― Virginia Plain, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago)
lol o_O until i remembered http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_differences#Formal_and_notional_agreement
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago)
Am thoroughly enjoying the reenactment of the "So Not Going To Happen" photo in Tim Howard's in-laws bar on ITV just now.
― ailsa, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:26 (fourteen years ago)
Jim Jones, soccer...US/Ghana never ends well...
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:26 (fourteen years ago)
It's rather sweet/sad how desperate we are that Americans have a good time watching tv
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:26 (fourteen years ago)
god yeah the american collective noun style bugs the living shit outta me
― r|t|c, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
lol xp to ailsa.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago)
Meanwhile flicked over to BBC's Glastonbury coverage only to be confronted by the sight of Shakira mounting a speaker.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago)
at least our guy who would've scored on that breakaway didn't nearly die in a car accident eight months ago -- feel much better about how that went down
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago)
hahaha ailsa
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago)
feilharber has been dope
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago)
relatively
jesus
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:32 (fourteen years ago)
What I like about the US is that they rarely let games just drift away. They'll have good chances in this half, it may come down to how calm Ghana can be with their breakaway chances.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago)
usa looking a lot better so far
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago)
they are forced into aggressiveness, instead of just being that way, unfortunately
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago)
yeah in general they do seem to a have a problem with slow starts, particularly in defence
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
what the hell is that on prince's neck
― flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
j0rdan otm
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago)
2-1 ghana is my prediction
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago)
this feels exactly like the algeria game now
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
Looking better...opportunities now, just need to grrr FINISH
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
Did he get the ball? Ooh, just.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, June 26, 2010 3:31 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark
i would like to point out i was otm itt
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
our strikes & midfielders really suck in the air don't they
yah, have we ever scored off a corner??
― pearsonic, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago)
jozy is the only one with the physical stature to score off a corner, at least in terms of headers, it feels like and idk if he has the legs now
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago)
He's not the most mobile...
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago)
he did make a sweet pass to set up benny earlier. credit there to him
― pearsonic, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
ghana parking the bus now, gonna be tough
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
jozy hasn't been panicked in the box, to his credit
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
PEN!
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
hmmm
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
onimo?I say score.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
good decision, that was a foul
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
Oh god. What are the USA like at penalties?
― Popture, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
Feilhaber, total bro imo
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
GAME the fuck ON
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
USA USA USA heh
― Popture, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
thank god
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
flair penalty
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
I keep thinking they call him PearlHarbour. anyway, 1-1
― sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
Weeeeeeeeeeee
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
Donovan was never gonna miss it, would be thoroughly unAmerican. (unless he went on to redeem himself by scoring twice later.)
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
Think LD might've messed his pants right before kick there.
― CompuPost, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
On like donkey kong
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pUjk57x9jI
― r|t|c, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
landon going off the post there would've been too reminiscent of the opening of mighty ducks 1 imo
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
boateng going to get a card at some point here
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
"bullshit" chant = most american event of the world cup so far
boateng seems like a huge prick
he's very "competitive"
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago)
Boateng reminds me of showboat NFL players
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
now lets keep the pedal to the metal and get another!
highly enjoyable sequence there -- feilhaber's quickness&passing changed things around
and yah. boateng is utterly horrifying. love him in "villain" role
― pearsonic, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
absolutely fantastic goalkeeping there
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
incredible crazy man tackle
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
boateng has played this entire WC as if he believed he is the best player in the world imo. On the one hand it's produced some of the best football I've seen him play, on the other he has tried some straight out outlandish shit that had zero chance of coming off.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
that play was exactly what happens when you rely too much on the turbo button in FIFA
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
Boateng = Ghana's TO imo
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
except TO is one of the best wr in nfl history, statistically at least
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
"maybe he'll write a song about this"
~LOL~
― flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
still time for a red card in this game. donovan my outside tip for that.
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
after watching feilhaber play, it really makes sense to find out that he was born in brazil
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
altho idk how long he grew up there, but you know
maurice > freddy
― pearsonic, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
Can someone please get a winner in normal time as I have to get up for work at 3.30 am, okay thx.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
also US will die if they have to play 30 more mins
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago)
Nah. Hustle is the only thing we have over the ROW.
― idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, I have a taxi booked for ten minutes after the end of the game, do not want it to be halfway through extra time plz.
― ailsa, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
Only have one sub left as well.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
DAMMIT
― flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
Shit strike.
― CompuPost, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
yeah i don't think he realized how alone he was
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
Bradley could've made so much more of that. First time I've seen him put a foot wrong.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
weak sauce imo
― flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago)
he could've hit one more touch and just drilled it
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago)
Kinda slow strike
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago)
Struck like a coach's son :/
― CompuPost, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago)
Lol
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago)
Whatever like you could have hit it better
― idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
The US seem kind of knackered now.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago)
both teams knackered. great strength from altidore tho.
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago)
good name - altidore.
― Zeno, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
for dempsey, any smidgen of contact = buckshot to the stomach
― pearsonic, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah unlucky - don't blame Jozy for that
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
He's a proper premier league playerxp re Dempsey
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
How come England can't play aimless long balls anywhere near this effectively?
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
if usa lose on pens what're the odds a tab will run with "USA lose 1-1"
― heywood jabulani (cozen), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago)
are ghana always like this with the lone striker left out in the breeze?
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago)
stoked for ET. these players look even more tired than usual.
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
― heywood jabulani (cozen), Saturday, June 26, 2010 4:13 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest
1:1
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:16 (fourteen years ago)
Ailsa, maybe it'll be a taxi with a TV screen?
― StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago)
altidore dive!
― flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
nah jozy just tripped himself and got lucky with the card cuz the ref was out of position
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
Win on PKs would not be satisfying. Would take it though.
― idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
Wow. That wikipedia link to the differences between British and American English was so interesting I forgot to watch anything after the penalty.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
...
― flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
let's sit back and enjoy this while we waithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB5dK_N21LU
― mahindra satyam (cozen), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
xps IT IS NOT CALLED PKS, STOP IT
― James Mitchell, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
and another!
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
Norwegian commentators putting early substitution down to US sports tradition of continuous hands-on coaching overriding the tradition of "you just don't do that"... insight or malarkey?
― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
he must have a foot like a traction engine!
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
if this goes to PKs i'm gonna shit my pants
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
quick novice questions: now that the US is out of subs, if someone gets hurt, we're down a man, yeah?
danny mills on five live saying the early substitutions were good decisions -- guy on a yellow, need a goal or you go out. they demonstrably worked too. typical norwegian malarkey imo.
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago)
xp, yes
Yup
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago)
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bramall_Lane for details
<3 u alan partridge
― flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
Are the Ghana team likely to actually be as young as they're saying?
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago)
get the fuck in!!
― r|t|c, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
ouch
― StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
oh ffs
― flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
Great strength.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
dang
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
Oof
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
bomb!
― Zeno, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
demerit has looked like the weak link all game
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
oh dear god did he just say "dancing to the african beat"?
― matt, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
really beautiful finish, tho
― flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
haha gif of bocanegra's face there pls
― mahindra satyam (cozen), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
Yes he did, awful.xxp
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
us had their chances in regular time
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
woeful
commentary, not goal
― matt, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
Bocanegra very lucky that Hyam scored so he didn't get a card there, imo
― StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
Well done Ghana, coming from behind to lose 2-1.
― James Mitchell, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
not over yet
― StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
announcers crapping on U.S. defense. but, imo, fantastic instincts and strength by the ghanaian striker
― pearsonic, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
great takedown, great finish
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
lol @ feilhaber
― flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, US only seems to play when behind
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
like a predatorxps
― mahindra satyam (cozen), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago)
hunting to the african beat
Like 90% of players would have gone down rather than trying to score.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago)
it was good strength, but helped by U.S. defence carthorseness
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:33 (fourteen years ago)
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0d1u2Uj1BpeXE/610x.jpg
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0aBK6qybaO39g/610x.jpg
lol indie
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago)
Carthorseness. Nice!!
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago)
is that katie couric?
― flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago)
Ghana are like a big cat, probably in africa
xp
― matt, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago)
Damn, those Jaggers are everywhere!
― StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago)
best comment so far is still "he looked like a baby gazelle recently torn from its mother's womb"
― mahindra satyam (cozen), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago)
tick tockticktock
― pearsonic, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago)
who is hugginhg Jagger there?
― Zeno, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago)
penalties for sure
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago)
God help their tired asses...
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago)
"It's all part of the learning experience"
― matt, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago)
yes, learning the rules of football
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago)
A new Facebook profile pic for Jagger there by the looks of it. xps
― Born too beguiled (DavidM), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago)
would rather be in the clinton/jagger royalty box than this one:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0gJV1Ozb1fdLb/x610.jpg
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah no I don't think there was any criticism implied in that comment tbf.
― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
is that fritzlxp
― mahindra satyam (cozen), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
Yes because they didn't learn anything from actually winning an international tournament 5 months agoxp
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/06jS2voaQQ3cJ/610x.jpg
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago)
Can't see the US coming back now I'm afraid
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago)
still can't tell if that's katie couric
― mahindra satyam (cozen), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago)
it is
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:43 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, it is
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:43 (fourteen years ago)
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/01eh3793QA5r3/610x.jpg
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago)
both teams are tired = mistakes = US can still do it
― Zeno, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago)
hope that's the panini stickerbook sepp's holding there
― r|t|c, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago)
That's FIFA boss Sepp Blatter (and Michel Platini's forehead behind him) (several xposts)
― StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago)
xps
ws
― mahindra satyam (cozen), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago)
BULLSHIT
― flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
this is pretty pathetic playacting by the ghanaian
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
Lame
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
ahhhh, classic sport
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
infuriating
― flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
Ah yes, who can forget the great sorting-out by Howard Webb?
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
lol
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
yup. joked earlier about dempsey, who's obviously no stranger to diving. but this is egregious. wasting time on every possession, every stoppage.
then again, if the sides were reversed, i'd be loving it...
― pearsonic, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:50 (fourteen years ago)
The beautiful cheaty game :)
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:51 (fourteen years ago)
i like to think this guy is making an obscene gesture to bill clinton
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0dXZ8Eu2PH3km/610x.jpg
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:54 (fourteen years ago)
no way back now
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:54 (fourteen years ago)
those aimless US long balls...
― Zeno, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago)
usa giving the ball away in some cronic fashions here now
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:56 (fourteen years ago)
Zombie ball
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago)
the long balls were working to some extent when altidore was on but gomez has given nothing
― mahindra satyam (cozen), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago)
xps IT IS NOT CALLED PKS, STOP IT --James Mitchell
Everything about my post there was wrong
― idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago)
keeper up
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago)
Note to commentators: Ghana != Africa
― ears are wounds, Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:58 (fourteen years ago)
3 mins added due to cheating
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 26 June 2010 20:59 (fourteen years ago)
oh, hallelujah.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago)
americans ghana cry now
― mahindra satyam (cozen), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
ITV commentators loving it that the continents of America are going out and that Africa are going through
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
Wooh! A team from Earth in the QFs!
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
christ
― flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
will give ghana my support from here on out, tho
― flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
ah well
we should've scored in the second half tbh
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
really no way we were gonna be able to keep up for 30 more mins
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago)
"Ghana, fifty years an independent nation, has never had a prouder moment"
― matt, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago)
That has done my head in through this whole tournament tbh, this constant equation of African team = Africa. It is blatant rubbish and reflects western tendency to see Africa as one homogenous entity.
― ears are wounds, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago)
Has anyone else noticed that they keep whistling for full time too early in this tournament?
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago)
I'm rooting for Mexico now, because someone on my continent is gonna win this godammit!!!
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago)
both games today, yeah. not by much though. xp
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago)
(xp to self) I don't mean before the 90 mins is up, I mean they'll signal "a minimum of 3 minutes added time" (for example) and then blow the whistle after two minutes and 45 seconds. I've seen this in several games.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago)
guys you do realize that actual africans are pretty chuffed to support an african team that doesn't represent their own nationality, right?
actually equating ghana with africa is obv wrong, but pretending that other african nations aren't behind them isn't
― flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago)
wait.
― flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:08 (fourteen years ago)
B-but the locals are supporting England?!
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:08 (fourteen years ago)
yep, there are many ridiculously chauvinistic things about commentary/analysis in the UK/US, etc., but e.g. most south africans have diverted their support to ghana (or holland or england), and it is not ridic patronising to note this
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:09 (fourteen years ago)
lalas sounded like he was about to cry tbh
― flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago)
NBS I have noticed but it's been with about five to ten seconds remaining and the ball in a neutral area
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago)
yeah i mean whatever i was watching on Univision and after the game the Ghana players were all screaming "AFRICA WINS!!" into the camera
― banshun, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago)
Don't think this is actually the itv thought process tbh
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago)
Yep can see them dancing on the streets of Tunis tonight
― ears are wounds, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago)
probably, yeah.
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago)
I'm not saying it's had any significant effect, but it is a bit weird. I'm assuming the "a minimum of X minutes" bit is a worldwide thing, rather than just a British thing, but in this World Cup that doesn't seem to apply. It's more like "the referee has indicated that there will be approximately X minutes of injury time, probably a bit less if he feels like it".
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago)
one of the ITV commentators did quite literally call Ghana 'Africa'. Sure there's a seed of truth, but they've taken it very much TOO FAR.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
well, the board's can only display whole numbers. but the added time shown on the board is determined by the 4th off, not the ref. in principle the ref can ignore it totally.
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
would guess the avg tunisian would rate ghana over the US, totally
but lol dude i know africa is fuckin huge, thx for the geography lesson
― flapjackin (gbx), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago)
I thought the fourth official put up the time that the referee signalled to him? And a minimum of means a minimum of - so if the referee thinks he's going to add on two mins 45 seconds he would signal two minutes (rather than three)? (see previous arguments re: Owen goal v City)
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago)
You guys are all forgetting Ceuta and Melilla here btw
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago)
xxp, otm
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago)
LOL watching the Ghanaians and Americans with their completely different heart failure narratives on my FB. Just wrote on page of Ghanaian friend that I would now have to explain to my fam where Ghana is - and that place is near their arses, kickin' it.
― WHEN CROWS GO BAD (suzy), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago)
pretty sure that the number is decided by the 4th off even at this level. ref's don't have voice contact with 4th off in most games. but yes, it is "a minimum of".
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago)
("most games" = most games below, say, championship level)
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago)
YES, THIS GUY!
http://i45.tinypic.com/5x1ldi.jpg
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago)
Well done team USA. You've gotten further than a couple of the pre-tournament favourites and you played pretty well throughout.
― StanM, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago)
From Wikipedia, the free etc etc:
The referee is the official timekeeper for the match, and may make an allowance for time lost through substitutions, injured players requiring attention, or other stoppages. This added time is commonly referred to as stoppage time or injury time, and is at the sole discretion of the referee. The referee alone signals the end of the match. In matches where a fourth official is appointed, toward the end of the half the referee signals how many minutes of stoppage time he intends to add. The fourth official then informs the players and spectators by holding up a board showing this number. The signalled stoppage time may be further extended by the referee.
― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago)
all without essien, as well
― white ilxors and "artistic" use of the sb-button (cozen), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago)
Regardless of the result, it felt nice to cheer the USA in something. Well played.
― Popture, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago)
what happened to essien btw
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago)
knee injuryhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8709466.stm
― white ilxors and "artistic" use of the sb-button (cozen), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago)
reckon ghana can take uruguay too, what u guys think?
― r|t|c, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago)
jesus, look at seoul earlier
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0dgBd2L5sJapv/x610.jpg
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago)
no chance, ghana were dreadful for most of that game and it didn't look like an off-day, more a structural/tactical problem
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah well done USA - must be a fabulous team to support, giving their all every time
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago)
yep, very likable team. totally deserved to win the group.
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:29 (fourteen years ago)
Uruguay have so much more cutting-edge than either of those sides, but think Ghana will give them a tough game
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:29 (fourteen years ago)
Think I'm going to root for Uruguay now. No offense, Ghana.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago)
ghana are pretty solid at the back, but i can't see them either holding uruguay off for 90 mins or scoring at all
― caek, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah WD to USA, develop a properly dangerous striker or two and you'll be a(n even more) serious threat to anyone.
URU-GHA is anyone's, though I'm tilting weakly twds URU.
― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:38 (fourteen years ago)
They could easily get another goal like tonight - Uruguay were stupidly caught out like that today a couple of times. They could do with tightening up a bit.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago)
"Sad day for America...at least we don't have to hunt for our food tonight"
So glad Americans are finally caring about soccer! Their voice will be missed no longer.
― Cunga, Saturday, 26 June 2010 22:03 (fourteen years ago)
So glad Americans are finally caring about soccer!
Friend holidayed in NYC and DC the week before this one, and was astounded at the level of interest among ppl.
― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 26 June 2010 22:27 (fourteen years ago)
No way were Ghana 'dreadful': dominated the 1st half, got paralyzed by the occasion for much of the 2nd but got back on 1st half form at extra time, and had more energy than the US by the end.
Both games were of a similar shape: early goal, both teams who took that lead ended up sitting back, etc. but showed enough drive to get a winner.
No idea of the outcome for this QF. Think it'll be two very nervous teams going to penalties.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 26 June 2010 22:40 (fourteen years ago)
if obama weren't such a pussy, we'd be bombing accra by now
j/k
― mookieproof, Saturday, 26 June 2010 22:45 (fourteen years ago)
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Jun/Week4/15655374.jpghttp://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Jun/Week4/15655373.jpghttp://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Jun/Week4/15655368.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 26 June 2010 22:47 (fourteen years ago)
news of the world ftw
― mookieproof, Saturday, 26 June 2010 22:47 (fourteen years ago)
sigh
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Saturday, 26 June 2010 22:50 (fourteen years ago)
clark starting is the biggest wtf in hindsight
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Saturday, 26 June 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago)
yeah.i fuckin miss charlie davies maaaan
― 156, Saturday, 26 June 2010 22:52 (fourteen years ago)
next summer: Gold Cup, Copa America, hope we see CD9 + some young guys like McInerney, Gil, etc
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Saturday, 26 June 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago)
clark starting, feilhaber not starting
― mookieproof, Saturday, 26 June 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago)
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Jun/Week4/15655030.jpghttp://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Jun/Week4/15655075.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 26 June 2010 22:55 (fourteen years ago)
predictable calls for Bradley's resignation already, I don't think it's justified
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Saturday, 26 June 2010 23:03 (fourteen years ago)
yeah shit i dont really think the US has anything to be ashamed of, least of all bradley
― max, Saturday, 26 June 2010 23:06 (fourteen years ago)
yeah me neither. his son had a great second half.
― Michael B, Saturday, 26 June 2010 23:06 (fourteen years ago)
Tomorrow I'm going to be supporting Germany in a 'mess' on an RAF base, which should be interesting. But crazy cheap drink and free food...
― textbook blows on the head (dowd), Saturday, 26 June 2010 23:09 (fourteen years ago)
i thought bradley sr. made some iffy decisions with the starting lineup, but whatevs. certainly no reason to fire him.
big fan of bradley jr.
― mookieproof, Saturday, 26 June 2010 23:17 (fourteen years ago)
rly hope bradlito has played himself into a bigger club this WC
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Saturday, 26 June 2010 23:18 (fourteen years ago)
from my friend who's from ghana:
YES WE GYAN
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Saturday, 26 June 2010 23:22 (fourteen years ago)
Good to see Ghana go through.
― Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Saturday, 26 June 2010 23:23 (fourteen years ago)
i am by no means an experienced watcher, but loved cherundolo (less so today, tho i only saw the first half), bradley jr., the usuals + feilhaber. i want to love jozy but he is frustrating.
not loving demerit, bornstein
― mookieproof, Saturday, 26 June 2010 23:24 (fourteen years ago)
I just lit off a roman candle on my doorstep for good measure
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Saturday, 26 June 2010 23:34 (fourteen years ago)
Tears. BF pointed out that Ghana were playing extremely Balkan game in strategy & technique -- they can thank their Serbian manager for that. Hate Serbia even more now.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Saturday, 26 June 2010 23:36 (fourteen years ago)
So let me just say that I thought I would be able to watch this game on my flight home today, JetBlue and all. And lo and behold, the in flight system was carrying besides a lot of other channels NBC, CBS and FOX, plus four different ESPN channels.
But not ABC.
gre;jjfiot4joijtoafasfds
I wasn't the only one frustrated, a bunch of us were manically reviewing the ESPN News updates as we could.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 00:15 (fourteen years ago)
Xpost: tears? They'd better be tears of pride, team USA did better than football giants France and Italy AND they can leave with their heads held high, unlike those two teams.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 00:22 (fourteen years ago)
USA played their asses off. Nothing to be ashamed of at all. Sad to see them so teary and bummed tho...Donovan's thousand-yard stare sitting on the bench killed me.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 27 June 2010 00:29 (fourteen years ago)
I hate ghana so much
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 00:32 (fourteen years ago)
Ghana winning is good because a) it makes the Socceroos look good for not going through on GOAL DIFFERENCE and b) lol no 2022 World Cup in the US of A, maybe in Qatar instead?
― They'll be dancing in the streets of Košice tonight (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 27 June 2010 00:35 (fourteen years ago)
I know but I drank too much out of nervousness and got all verklempt at the highly suspenseful ending.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Sunday, 27 June 2010 01:03 (fourteen years ago)
well played Ghana imo, I'll back them in the next round for sure
― flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 27 June 2010 01:03 (fourteen years ago)
can't back a team that made the stretchers come out TWICE in overtime
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 01:06 (fourteen years ago)
They were the better team and deserved the win, play-wise, but I can't bring myself to like them. Esp whatshisface jack-in-the-box who POPed right up as soon as was carried off.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Sunday, 27 June 2010 01:08 (fourteen years ago)
a real American is gracious in defeat
― flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 27 June 2010 01:08 (fourteen years ago)
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l244/panjandrum_01/BOTC/HollywoodHulkHogan.jpg
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Sunday, 27 June 2010 01:10 (fourteen years ago)
a real american never admits that he was defeated
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 01:11 (fourteen years ago)
we tactically retreated from this world cup. not a defeat, but a rare form of victory.
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 27 June 2010 01:12 (fourteen years ago)
That was incredibly lame, but the announcer made it sound like that's what always goes on in extended period. How much truth to that?
― Cunga, Sunday, 27 June 2010 01:26 (fourteen years ago)
― Zeno, Saturday, June 26, 2010 1:37 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
that would be democratic party hack terry mcauliffe, i believe
― symsymsym, Sunday, 27 June 2010 01:28 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, players getting leg cramps during extra time is very common indeed. And being back up after a very quick stretch is just as common, since that's the cure for leg cramps and it works better when someone else does it for you.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 01:31 (fourteen years ago)
ref should have run over to the dude who got stretchered out and carded him right there after he popped up
― youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Sunday, 27 June 2010 01:39 (fourteen years ago)
Not a huge fan of Ghana either, for reasons I can't really explain. Also every time I hear the name Kevin Prince Boateng I think of this:
http://991.com/newGallery/Bruce-Dickinson-Lord-Iffy-Boatrac-186534.jpg
― VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 27 June 2010 01:43 (fourteen years ago)
grrr
But VG, everything reminds you of deviant transvestite British lords.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 02:02 (fourteen years ago)
Your point being...
― VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 27 June 2010 02:10 (fourteen years ago)
i'm still trying to sort through this US team in my mind.
our problems were at the front and the back, yeah? i liked this middle, could see some version of it in 2014: bradley edu holden torres, demspey and donovan subs, depending on how they age and what they go through.
what makes a team give up a goal early, always? everyone comes mentally prepared. it's the world fucking cup, there are enough flashbulbs and fans to make you know where you are. it's physical unpreparedness i think, demerit a step slower, bocanegra 2 feet out of position, gooch hurt, that in a world cup a good team takes advantage of (and algeria hits the bar). their defend to the end resoluteness that we saw vs. spain the confederations cup wasn't there.
and up front, jozy and the scrubs. buddle and gomez can be contributors for a club but for a nation? and jozy. it's not so simple as someone upthread who said he sucks. he's got the tools. we hear that over and over. but there's that extra step, that push, that he doesn't seem to have yet. it's like nothing's important enough. and we saw today that he thought he was drawing fouls, but wasn't getting the calls he's gotten in other games. if he doesn't get calls, a bunch else of his game evaporates. but he's 20. drogba was in ligue 2 at 20. heskey was probably pissing some coach off at 20. jozy is the most frustrating and the most interesting american because i can't figure out where he goes from here, it could be the champions league in a few years, it could be back to mls a broken man. i just can't even picture.
today's was the first game where i missed charlie davies. a lot. he wouldof/couldof brought something to this game the team didn't have.
what's frustrating is we never saw how good this team can be, no 2 consecutive halves like i know they're capable of. and now it's over. god damn it.
― 156, Sunday, 27 June 2010 06:08 (fourteen years ago)
we've seen enough us fans celebrate. ghanaian fans in nyc:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV1WHV1M4OA&feature=player_embedded
― 156, Sunday, 27 June 2010 06:09 (fourteen years ago)
100%. After 120 minutes there are always a couple of players with cramp, and tackles tend to be mistimed, so there are often real injuries. Once they go down, unless they get up immediately, the referee is obliged by rules (not by requests from the players) to call on the stretcher and have the player removed from the pitch. Other than getting up _immediately_, the hurt/cramped/faking player has no say in this at all. The idea is that making stretcher removal a rule with zero discretion, it discourages play acting to timewaste -- if you go down then teams lose a player for at least a few seconds, and time is added for the stretcher so it's pointless. Fact is though, absent that rule, in most cases the stretcher isn't necessary (especially for cramp), and you'll see the player get up and come back on straight away. It's important to remember that the referee adds time for this too, so in principle it isn't an effective timewasting strategy.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 07:54 (fourteen years ago)
Today's game, then (the England one).
No idea what to expect - I can imagine almost every type of game except a dull nil-nil. My best guess is that England will turn it on at last, just because these players are capable of it, and win comfortably like so many champions league steamrollerings in recent years. Germany are still pretty young and don't seem to have the strength and resolve of their greatest sides. Also, this is the type of occasion that Capello must live for. However, a fluid Germany dismantling a bereft England is almost as likely.
I'll go with the outlandish prediction of 3-0 to England, and to national disbelief.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 07:58 (fourteen years ago)
I said 2-2 after 90 mins in my office sweepstake, but kind of secretly thinking Rooney might turn up for this one, and he's far too good for their defence if he does. Worried about SWP coming on at half time or something ridiculous like that if we haven't scored though.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 08:00 (fourteen years ago)
So yeah, no idea.
What I really don't want is a functional England boring their way through 1-0. The competition deserves better.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 08:17 (fourteen years ago)
The compulsory 'get on the stretcher after a specific time' thing started in USA'94 iirc, I distinctly remember because they had golf buggies which were much, much slower than four blokes running on with two poles and a bit of cloth and every commentator complained like hell about it. several xposts.
― BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Sunday, 27 June 2010 08:43 (fourteen years ago)
http://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/17128322684
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 09:07 (fourteen years ago)
http://img.skitch.com/20100627-dbuwe42abtrk98rb4krube99bg.jpg
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 09:30 (fourteen years ago)
b-f: german national team, 3 lions
This actually-calling-the-team-three-lions thing, is it new? "The three lions are gonna win today" - I heard it in the commentary the other day, it really jarred.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 09:34 (fourteen years ago)
xxp thought for a second that was the French team travelling home...
― display-name aesthete (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 09:36 (fourteen years ago)
3-1 to Germany be my prediction. And Rooney gets in a fight with a goalpost.
― seandalai, Sunday, 27 June 2010 11:43 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdrcAh_CaQY
heroes welcome for the Italy squad. Anyone know what they're saying?
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 June 2010 12:10 (fourteen years ago)
Match starts at 3pm BST, correct?
― WHEN CROWS GO BAD (suzy), Sunday, 27 June 2010 12:11 (fourteen years ago)
affirmative.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 12:13 (fourteen years ago)
jozy. it's not so simple as someone upthread who said he sucks. he's got the tools. we hear that over and over. but there's that extra step, that push, that he doesn't seem to have yet. it's like nothing's important enough
OTM- hugely frustrating player to watch, as he appears to have just about everything the US needs for a centre forward, but he didn't really have the look of a guy giving it 100% last night- either he's got a real lazy style of running, or he simply never got to full sprint speed at any stage of the match, was slow to react to breaking balls etc, the lot.
US were good, and yeah go home with heads held high etc but their play in the extra time period was very tired- huge amounts of passes misplaced and no runs apart from bradley. bad goal to give away too.
getting out of the group in first place, thougH- can't see how bradley can be questioned tbh, he's got a good outfit playing good football. definitely think bradley jr has played himself into a major move.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 12:29 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, young Bradley looks quite the player - could anchor any club side on these performances
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 12:31 (fourteen years ago)
just watched the 1990 semi final highlights on the bbc. i was 9 at the time, and i'm told i watched it live, but i don't remember. good game! (and a lot of UK (not england) flags in the crowd in those days)
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 12:32 (fourteen years ago)
rise of scottish&welsh nationalism = decline of union jack.
― ogmor, Sunday, 27 June 2010 12:41 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/footy.html
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 12:42 (fourteen years ago)
england flag now exists largely for football now anyway
― ogmor, Sunday, 27 June 2010 12:43 (fourteen years ago)
union jack as figleaves for fame whores
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 12:44 (fourteen years ago)
xxxxp The England v Italy game for 3rd place was cracking IIRC. The final pretty much summed up everything wrong with Italia'90, summarised by Jimmy Greaves wearing a T-shirt with "ANYONE FOR TENNIS?" printed on it.
― display-name aesthete (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 12:45 (fourteen years ago)
The final was just crushing for kid me - we were travelling to our summer holiday and I'd badgered for a special stopover (at a b&b with a telly!) so I could see the final for the first time
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 12:48 (fourteen years ago)
ps ghanaian prostrate facilitating delay for stretcher-
wtf u guys clearly a playacting cheating fuck.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 12:51 (fourteen years ago)
Really feeling the absence of Martin O'Neill right now. Redknapp/Shearer will be insufferable.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 June 2010 12:51 (fourteen years ago)
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:00 (fourteen years ago)
Torn between wanting Germany to win because I have far greater interest in seeing Ozil play more games in this tournament then I have any of the England players. On the other hand am somewhat fascinated to see just what would happen if England actually managed to win the whole thing. Would the whole country lose their collective minds Princess Di style for weeks even months?
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:05 (fourteen years ago)
No matter how bad BBC punditry/commentary is ITV still manages to delve lower still. Peter Drury last night with his pre scripted "It's bye bye American sigh" etc and Jim Rosenthal near tears because Marcel Desailly's mic wasn't working. Hopeless.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:08 (fourteen years ago)
milner's neck is incredible
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:10 (fourteen years ago)
btw, someone asked above about whether or not the ghanaians were likely to be as young as is claimed. may i paraphrase the great george hamilton (ys really) rte commentator-
'and on comes sully muntari, a hugely experienced player who still has a lot to offer at the age of 25'
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:11 (fourteen years ago)
where is martin o'neill btw?
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:13 (fourteen years ago)
Lineker's finish in 1990 was top-drawer. What a player he was, could use him now.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:14 (fourteen years ago)
wouldn'y be picked now tbh
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:25 (fourteen years ago)
wow, waddle's let himself go
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:28 (fourteen years ago)
onomatipaeia in action
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:29 (fourteen years ago)
omg did anyone just hear Klinsmann talking about the world wars
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:35 (fourteen years ago)
waddle living up to his name these days
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago)
He was probably saying "Don't mention the war" to the English, as they are sensitive about the subject.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:50 (fourteen years ago)
can't watch this Brian Blessed thing again, feels too much like I'm witnessing someone's mental collapse (see also: everything Brian Blessed has ever done).
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:51 (fourteen years ago)
ShiltonCole-Terry-Wright-Johnson?Waddle-Gerrard-Gascoine-BarnesRooney-Lineker
Spoilt for choice up front, still no right back.
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:54 (fourteen years ago)
Martin Tyler going on about the "aroma of World Cup tradition" -- argh.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:54 (fourteen years ago)
booing the German national anthem, keepin it classy.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:55 (fourteen years ago)
YES the matching outfits again
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:55 (fourteen years ago)
ozil's eyes are a bithttp://www.mannythemovieguy.com/images/total_recall_remake.jpg
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:55 (fourteen years ago)
the context was how much germans like to attack!
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago)
I am disappointed Mick didn't point to himself on the screen and wave.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:57 (fourteen years ago)
this is wot it's orl abaht
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:57 (fourteen years ago)
yogi loew synchronised outfit watch starts here
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:58 (fourteen years ago)
has rooney ever said why he doesn't sing the anthem?
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:58 (fourteen years ago)
he's irish
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:59 (fourteen years ago)
I'm considering liveblogging this in the style of a future weathergirl on I love 2010
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 13:59 (fourteen years ago)
boom! loving this, <3 loew
my tummy has gone all squirty
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:00 (fourteen years ago)
Gross
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:01 (fourteen years ago)
germany 3 england 1
barry to be ineffective, defoe to get the goal, gerrard rooney & terry all off, johnson at fault for 2 goals
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago)
you don't understand, that's the name of my holding midfielder, xp
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago)
xxxp they have no word for "fluffy", you know...
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago)
That photographer looks like Rich Hall...
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago)
yaow
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago)
ooooft unconventional save by james there
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago)
goals today
Not a good sign.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:05 (fourteen years ago)
We've got to start closing them down faster or there'll be many more moments like that.
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:05 (fourteen years ago)
omg slo mo terry jellyface
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:05 (fourteen years ago)
how do I stream from univision? Can't find what buttons to press.
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago)
never mind!
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:14 (fourteen years ago)
Like the funky vuvuzela breaks coming through.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:16 (fourteen years ago)
Lampard's face is that of a man who forgot his sun cream.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago)
"Like the Germans wouldn't have looked for a free kick" stfu Lawrenson no-one said anything even like that
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago)
oh shit
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago)
Well there you go.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:20 (fourteen years ago)
route 1 perfection germany klose 1-0
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:20 (fourteen years ago)
Of all the goals to lose
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:20 (fourteen years ago)
ffs
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:20 (fourteen years ago)
I think that is the longest goal kick I've ever seen.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:20 (fourteen years ago)
defense is gone with the wind
― Zeno, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:21 (fourteen years ago)
waddle: "you don't see many goals like that unless you watch sunday morning club football"
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:21 (fourteen years ago)
Defensively that is the worst goal conceded at this tournament unless I'm forgetting something
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:21 (fourteen years ago)
They'd better pull their finger out, or never mind economy class they'll be walking home.
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:21 (fourteen years ago)
embarrassing
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:21 (fourteen years ago)
It's all Capello tactics. Let them have a few and then destroy them later when they don't expect it anymore.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago)
similar to ghana's winning goal yesterday
― Michael B, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago)
http://i46.tinypic.com/2h6hil4.jpg
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago)
xp, yes, awful terry/upson positioning, james could have been more confident too
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago)
Hey, I can suddenly lip-read (what James just shouted)!
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:24 (fourteen years ago)
Lawro quoting Nietzsche now.
― Michael Jones, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:26 (fourteen years ago)
England should try closing down in midfield sometimes
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:26 (fourteen years ago)
you can't be offside from a GK?
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:27 (fourteen years ago)
Fixed?
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:27 (fourteen years ago)
lol ref
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:27 (fourteen years ago)
cozen i think you're OK as long as you get back on before the ball drops
― pearsonic, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:28 (fourteen years ago)
and by drops i mean "hits the ground"
some srs ugly long ball shit itg
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:29 (fourteen years ago)
was surprised Lawrenson knew that quote came from Nietzsche, thought he'd be too busy with his life of whining to actually hold any real knowledge.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:29 (fourteen years ago)
capello doing some quality 'the fucking ball barry' there
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:29 (fourteen years ago)
wherefore thudd i ask, wherefore thudd
"something's working better for the team in black and white" - yes, they're marking properly, we aren't. When we're at their end, three of their players are piling on top of our man. When they're at our end, the nearest defender is miles away.
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:30 (fourteen years ago)
james done good there
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:30 (fourteen years ago)
fuck this noise
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:30 (fourteen years ago)
Who the hell is the guy commenting with Tyler again on ESPN? He's been a constant cliche machine since the start of the tournament.
That's for sure.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:30 (fourteen years ago)
fucks sake do we actually have any fucking defenders on the field?
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:31 (fourteen years ago)
When we're at their end, three of their players are piling on top of our man. When they're at our end, the nearest defender is miles away.
Was just thinking the same thing.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:31 (fourteen years ago)
efan ekoku iirc ned
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:31 (fourteen years ago)
cozen: nope, you can't be offside if you get the ball from your own keeper's goal kick, a throw in or a corner kick.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:31 (fourteen years ago)
I just cannot see England scoring by way of any sort of actual move - I mean there's always a Lampard rocket or whatever but
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:31 (fourteen years ago)
done
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago)
oh
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago)
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago)
game over
― Zeno, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago)
oh FUCK OFF
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago)
Yes, they really are that much better than us.
― Michael Jones, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago)
podolski angled finish 2-0
at least it's not going to be penalties
seriously what the fuck is this shit
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago)
not even enough of an english defence to actually analyse here. they're just....not present
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago)
Great work by Podolski, defense sucks, already looking forward to Argentina/Mexico has being ten times more entertaining.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago)
Nobody in the block made a sound when Germany scored so I didn't know it had happened until coming here!
THEY'RE WALKING HOME THEY'RE WALKING HOME ENGLAND'S WALKING HOME etc, repeat to fade...
― WHEN CROWS GO BAD (suzy), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago)
AS being etc.
come on 5-1
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago)
good cross, that
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:35 (fourteen years ago)
ah joeks defending, just joeks
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago)
this is hell
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago)
This is SAD is what it is.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago)
germans have made some spectacular runs today, first goal aside
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago)
need to nick one before HT
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago)
d james- most solid of england's back 5.
GOAL
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
otm cozen
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
there you go
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
there we go, game on
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
england relaxing now they're out!
so it isn't over
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
YES!!!
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
lol from the worst player on the field
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
great cross gerrard, goalie at fault
was that off upson's face?
Nicely done.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
face goal
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
holy shit
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
upson better in heskey role #]#]]
WHAT AGOAL LAMPARD
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
holy fuck
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
that was over the line
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
That was in
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
Hahah wow that would have been a comeback.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
that looked like a gooal omg
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
that looked in by a MILE
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
terrible decision
o lollllll.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
by a lot
nooooooooooooooo
so clear at speed too
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
linesman 30 yards up the pitch
DISALLOWED bastard but the replay shows it went in
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
england :-(
shit just got real
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
so this game got amazing?
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago)
Where's yr Russian linesman now?
― Michael Jones, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago)
Hahah Capello's double take was amazing.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago)
NO GOAL WTF 1966 two ft over line
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago)
and still the FIFA won't allow cameras. FIFAmateurs.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago)
fuck the ref
― Zeno, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago)
i never knew soccer cld be exciting
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago)
england are gonna lose 5-4 now
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago)
alan green being a tiresome cunt about replays
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago)
I could tell that was miles in ten feet away from my 14" TV.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago)
even I was screaming that's ridic
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago)
it it wrong of me to want Larwenson killed
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago)
lawrenson's bile is unseemly
You missed the last ten minutes of Italy/Slovakia, then.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago)
Lawrenson xp
save it for a boring game with nothing else to talk about, not when gerrard is putting in a cross
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago)
stanm otm, caek rong imo.
replays necessary as soon as they were viable ie ten years ago probably
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago)
bring on replays, fuck a human element -- humans are idiots
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:41 (fourteen years ago)
tbf that was a completely shameful decision and there is no chance these officials will get even a quarter f
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:41 (fourteen years ago)
"the referee's a wanker" classy domestic football crowd luls
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:41 (fourteen years ago)
england will win this, because of that not in spite of it imo
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:41 (fourteen years ago)
i'm fine with replays, i just hate alan green
feel for lampard, not done a thing right all tournament and then when he pulls off what he's there for it's wrongly disallowed
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:42 (fourteen years ago)
jeez not often you see a cole done like that
Oh hey, the English defense suddenly appeared.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:42 (fourteen years ago)
(insert NOTW caption joke)
it bounced inside the goal twice
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago)
there is no way that england will not lose by exactly one goal now
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago)
irish commentary- something must be done about this issue after it happening in such a vital game- ey fuck you it's happened in MUCH bigger games tbh
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago)
I'm going to the pub for the second half, I thought I wanted it to be full of bitter Welsh h8rs but I'm kinda unsure now o_O
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago)
headline: GERRY-RIGGED
― max, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago)
the whole thing would be solved by just having one ref responsible for each half of the field, if you really don't wan to add video.....
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago)
still tho what a start for Dcam's gov, apology to the bloody sunday victims and now justice for 1966 germans
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago)
Of course, if England do lose, Capello's got some perfect insurance now.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:45 (fourteen years ago)
xp jordan nah they'd still be ridiculously conservative-calling incompetent fucks tbh
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:45 (fourteen years ago)
yeah but the ref wouldn't have been 30 yds back there prob
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:45 (fourteen years ago)
there's no excuse for missing it from 30 yards, tbh
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
ref doesn't usually make goalline decisions jordan
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
truth
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
okay
dass no who frank's tawkin abaaht
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:47 (fourteen years ago)
no excuse for either linesman nor ref, that's a copout from the ref
two refs is not insane though, but replays for goalline decisions is the trivially easy solution
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:47 (fourteen years ago)
no excuse for 4th official not to buzz ref in that sitch either, tbrr
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago)
I think the entire narrative of this world cup needs to be made ref-focused - can they make it to the next round without ruining a game??
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago)
yeah we'll be able to have a poll once the thing is over
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago)
two refs seems a ridic idea to me, in terms of better and less messy alternatives being available.
one good ref, for a start, two linesmen that have 20/20 and aren't dunces.
also, FIFA pls god to train linesmen NOT TO RUN WITH THEIR HEADS DOWN FFS
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:49 (fourteen years ago)
linesman wasn't actually that far back. just a shit official.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:49 (fourteen years ago)
wouldn't have been an issue w/europa league style behind-the-goal officials
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:49 (fourteen years ago)
see it must be an american thing... cuz in our sports we have like one official for ever 6 cubic feet of playing field -- not like our games don't get routinely screwed up by officials, but it seems like a start
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:50 (fourteen years ago)
i gotta say, schoolchildern are really getting shit on today by the commentators -- think of the kids imo
problem in soccer (at least compared to american football and baseball) is the ball can go anywhere, and even the one ref gets in the way
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:51 (fourteen years ago)
eh as long as baseball doesn't use video, we're not in a position to say much
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:51 (fourteen years ago)
England had better score, if this ends 2-1 we will NEVER HEAR THE END OF IT.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:51 (fourteen years ago)
This is what I mean about getting sucked in. Start the WC not caring about England, actively disliking most of the squad, more excited about Donovan's goal than Defoe's on Wednesday, etc... 3:30 today it's ha ha we gonna get done four or five...then that happens. "We" have to win now.
― Michael Jones, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:52 (fourteen years ago)
well baseball does use video, but really minimally
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:52 (fourteen years ago)
do they use video at all in the MLS
^merdeyeux otm
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:52 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, fuck england for sucking me in. happens every time.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago)
I meant to take over for the guy who makes a bad decision like 33% of the time
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago)
http://imgur.com/QzbNW.jpg
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago)
klose is ridiculous btw
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago)
Brady at half time : 'IM HAPPY but not for england but for sepp blatter'
― Michael B, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:54 (fourteen years ago)
were they using a medicine ball in 66?
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:54 (fourteen years ago)
England can still do this, they ought to have worked out what's wrong now - with both sides.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:54 (fourteen years ago)
bbc's VT for the arg v mex game was gross; not one shot of a mex player, nothing but messiatio
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:56 (fourteen years ago)
brady otm the officials will even this up if possible
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago)
what I am expecting in the 2nd half:
goal my god, it's goalmageddon
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago)
btw best match of the wc so far imo
On the FIFA 'football for hope' commercial, who is that middle-aged woman with the screwed-up mouth? Is she someone I should know?
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:01 (fourteen years ago)
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:01 (fourteen years ago)
Acceptable outcomes: 3-2 England, 5-1 Germany or 7-7 megablitz in which one poxy goalline call made way back in the first half before we lost our minds makes no difference in onion-bag chaos.
― Michael Jones, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:02 (fourteen years ago)
if england don't look like winning this with 5 mins to go rooney is going to get one of the great WC red cards
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:05 (fourteen years ago)
2-1 GER seems a totally fair halftime score somehow - like, Germany were dominant, England largely poor but scored twice.
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:05 (fourteen years ago)
haha xp
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:05 (fourteen years ago)
nah, england scored twice, should be 2-2 imo
xps Rooney can't get a red card if he's invisible.
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:06 (fourteen years ago)
rly we should be atlaking about the german collapse for the end of that half, wtf?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:07 (fourteen years ago)
what a strike
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:08 (fourteen years ago)
lampard 35 yrds off crossbar (is there anyone that actually needs this detail btw?)
don't think the german defence had showed much for the first 30, last 15 england actually started attacking and revealed how feeb e.g. boateng can be
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:09 (fourteen years ago)
Crossbar at that end of the pitch must be about six inches lower, yeah?
― Michael Jones, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago)
(darragh I'm finding it helpful)
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago)
WmC, haven't seen the commercial and I don't know about her mouth, but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inaara_Aga_Khan ?
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago)
does anyone expect anything special from rooney?
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago)
not any more. he's got the face on.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago)
scoring would be something special, I suppose.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago)
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%40SeppBlatter
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago)
Trending: WorldwideSepp BlatterMiroslav KloseMick JaggerLukas PodolskiWasit GoblogJorge LarriondaFrank LampardEdward ScissorhandsGoal Line TechnologyFay Lolos
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― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago)
terry got crossed over
― pearsonic, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago)
Well, there's your act of atonement by the ref - goal kick for England. Was hoping for something more.
― Michael Jones, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago)
anyone expect thing correct from the ref?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago)
england starting to open things up a bit here. someone's going to score again.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:17 (fourteen years ago)
ok GP will continue so. very open game now, german defence looking as porous as england now rooney cld just have played milner in but poor weight on pass
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:18 (fourteen years ago)
Edward Scissorhands
soccer reference?
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:19 (fourteen years ago)
joe cole on
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago)
for milner
...that's a sub I don't get.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:21 (fourteen years ago)
should have been a second yellow that
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago)
like for like innit?
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago)
friedrich gets one more dodge foul before 2nd yellow i reckon
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago)
oh no
well there you go
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago)
milner not very 'like' j cole
great german counter attack goal for muller
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago)
bollocks...
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago)
All thanks to Barry's first touch.
― Michael Jones, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago)
david james is not a strong keeper y/n?
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago)
stoked for the rooney red
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago)
james prob should do better, but hey one-on-one shot blasted what you gonna do rly
That 5-1 prediction is still on.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
like for like : rm for rm
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
calamity james rides again!
― Michael B, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
is kind of a relief in a way
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
referee's response to seeing tv replay of lampard goal apparently "oh my god"
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
five England players on the German striker and he still scores
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
Not James's fault there - blame everyone else
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
i know they were 2-1 down, but leaving only one back behind the freekick taker (who is going to shoot, not pass) is suicide
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
fuck
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
I think england might lose this game
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
another great counter muller again ozil run 4-1
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
waddle: "put heskey on at centre half"
You could just see that coming, couldn't you.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
uhhhhh
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
Shoulda had a tenner on 5-1.
― Michael Jones, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
lol heskey on this 6m a year stuff y/n
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago)
Germany/Argentina would be good, Germany/Mexico would be kinda nuts.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago)
am kind of glad to see the back of this shower
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago)
― StanM, Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
Right. Fabio, I'm starting to think the time to start surprising them is right about... now
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:29 (fourteen years ago)
can anyone explain why heskey is on instead of crouch?also has joe cole touched the ball? Milner was playing well
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:29 (fourteen years ago)
This has got to be Capello's worst-ever result
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:29 (fourteen years ago)
StanM -- yes, that was her. Her crooked mouth reminds me of an aunt of mine who had Bell's Palsy.
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
This has got to be Capello's worst- last ever result
fixed...
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
Okay, those were two of the most disconsolate fans I've ever seen.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
"My comedy mustache does nothing."
lol the expressions on those england fans dressed in ww2 RAF biggles gear
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
This German side is starting to look like a real contender for the end victory, IMO. Young and eager and still on the offensive even though they're 4-1 in front. Sorry, England, but this is a vv good German team.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
England have only lost in a competitive match by more than one goal once since Graham Taylor, haven't they?
― if, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
germany - very good players, very good coach with great game plan
england - go out with controversy to distract from players not actually being good enough - best possible outcome
― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
'arry for the england job then? *english media demands english manager*
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago)
this is a vv good German team
Ridiculously good. Capable of mistakes under pressure but otherwise top flight.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago)
Hodgson hasn't accepted the Liverpool job yet
― if, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago)
this will get to 4-3 or 4-4 i think, another glorious loss beckons
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:34 (fourteen years ago)
Thanks Dom:
When your game-changing weapon is Emile Heskey, you are spiritually looking comical beneath a giant umbrella.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:34 (fourteen years ago)
has mcclaren gone to wolfsburg yet?
― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago)
Meantime the ESPN feed has gone all pixelated, as if to say 'We can't even watch.'
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago)
England: one goal better than the Socceroos.
― BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago)
heh hold those horses tbh
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago)
xpost -- They'll be starting a new tournament based around the burning of a Jabulani.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago)
fantastic save neuer from gerrard
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
Germany have been good - but only clinical sometimes and wasteful at others, even though it's 4-1. They can improve.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
How do supporters always know they're on TV?
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
True, England still have 11 men. xpost to Darragh
― BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
big screen in the stadium
are you australia in disguise?
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago)
Attention Bloemfontein residents, time to start putting your cars inside and the shutters down, these England fans aren't going to be very happy in about 10 minutes.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago)
gapd in england backline are astounding, it's not like they're bombing fwd. upson and terry trying to defy laws of physic re: occupation of same space, same time
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago)
heh germany taking their playmaker off to make sure england dont injure him
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago)
stanm tbf i dont think those type of fans made it out to SA. Most got their passports removed.
alsi,they do it anyway
― Zeno, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:40 (fourteen years ago)
SWP is coming on?? why???
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago)
xxp Bloemfontein is not the kind of town to try the usual hooligan nonsense.
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago)
"shaun wright philips is coming on"
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago)
magical words of healing
stopped watching. too sad.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago)
"Jesus of Nazareth is coming on" wouldn't make a difference at this point...
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah OK, my bringing up hooligans was below the belt, apologies.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago)
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs053.ash2/36033_10150231969665065_694340064_13326510_5077458_n.jpg
― conrad, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago)
^ why it makes it impossible to like England
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago)
fans
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago)
Aren't they supposed to be the captured airmen from 'Allo-'Allo?
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago)
only if they have the good moaning policeman there
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago)
If the USA were 4-1 down they would still be trying 100% for the last 15 mins not giving up.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
Objectively, would it have been very logical to see this England team progress after the first round they had and not the Germans?
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
no
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago)
England should have won their group and avoided Germany and Argentina or Mexico.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago)
but they didn't and didn't really deserve to either
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
Jamie Carragher is confident fellow Merseysider Wayne Rooney will still make a big impact at the World Cup.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
That's what I thought too. Even though that 2-2 was a scandal, I don't think it would have saved England. At the end of the day.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
Sad to see Martin Degville crying there.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
This England team would've lost to Ghana, even they'd been gifted top spot by a USA 0-0 ALG.
― Michael Jones, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
If the media concentrate on the goal not being given, it will just mask an awful performance by England and the scoreline doesn't really flatter germany because all the english commentators, even shearer, said Germany should have been 4 or 5 up by halftime anyway.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
vuvuzelas in munich. going to be a long evening.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
germany are very impressive; dg ppl who said they've only played well in one game so far
they played well w/10 men vs serbia, played well against a decent-to-v.good ghana side
good for the semis at least now
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
Seems that England can either:
1) put pressure on the other team's defenders2) put pressure on the other team's strikers3) flail around aimlessly
But not 1 & 2 at the same time.
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
James was the best player by miles. Lampard possibly gets pass marks, but the rest were awful. And you cant change games by bringing on Heskey or SWP.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
What the hell was all that about? By which I mean: England at the world cup.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
brady = 'The scoreline doesnt lie about the gulf of class between teams however'
― Michael B, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago)
oof caek, i feel sorry for you being stuck in Germany tonight. And even tho im scottish i do mean that.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago)
sorry, Englishes
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago)
England, birthplace of giants. Nobby Stiles, Jimmy Greaves, Gazza, Sly Stallone in Escape to Victory... Can you hear me, Pickles the dog? Your boys took a hell of a beating!
― Born too beguiled (DavidM), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago)
Which player will be scapegoat btw?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago)
At least France gave people pleasure at this world cup.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago)
Couple of wonderful goals as well, today. This is how you perform a counter.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago)
I've just had a capcha on another site, one of the words of which was lahm. IT KNEW.
― BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago)
At least Scotland can relax now and enjoy the rest of World Cup 2010
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago)
ha, thanks pfunkboy. had a fantastic night on friday with chileans and spanish people from work (work is the european observatories in chile, so lots of other european people and chileans). great times. and my god, chilean girls. was almost tempted to watch this game in public. very glad i didn't. turned the tv off with 20 mins to go. terrible. don't expect we'll hear _that_ much about the disallowed goal tbh, they were that bad. not watching shearer to find out though.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago)
england played themselves but still im glad the US didnt have to face germany
― max, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago)
France, Italy, England - all joke performances in many respects
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago)
Commiserations, you lot.
― WHEN CROWS GO BAD (suzy), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago)
They didn't go over to the supporters, straight down the tunnel after getting the shirts swapped. Nice touch. Class. Enjoy your three weeks in Dubai.
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago)
Did capello really say England played well??
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago)
germany winning is the nightmare scenario for me now. still think that they're going to face a decent outfit (not australia or england) and will get badly found out. argentina or brazil would both beat them comfortably iirc.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago)
I think if Germany win the final that it takes some of the edge of losing to them. Still major questions to be asked.
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago)
well they'll prob get arg in the next round
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 June 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago)
much disappointment that for all of my hopes of laughing at all yous bawjawses I'm now feeling sorry for you. Stupid superego.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago)
lol My friend Fiona just tweeted this: At this point I'd just like to take the opportunity to thank my parents for moving us to Ireland.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago)
on this WC showing, deciding btwn Lampard or gerrard in eng midfield seems like the wrong question to be asking.
come in thudd, the next england manager might need you i think
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago)
altho lampard today >>>>>>> gerrard, who imo was 75% of the problem not counting the defence
But remember, if you think England's defence was bad, wait til you see Argentina's!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago)
I dont get why England always play Gerrard out of position.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago)
Says it all. No respect.
― sonofstan, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago)
Who comes out with reputation intact for 2012? Cole & Johnson? Defoe?
Whoever said USA wouldn't have given up like that sadly otm :(
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago)
It was me.
oh and can i go on record (yes,again , onimo) and say that Lampard's "goal" is the worst decision I have EVER seen in my life.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago)
cole the only solid world cup performance in the team
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago)
i don't know if stevep gerrard has a position when the entire gameplan isn't based around him being a hero
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago)
ozil is legit, no doubt; thought the aus game flattered him a bit but today he was stellar
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7672/1277651530587.jpg
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago)
eh, seen worse decisions. could easily have been more than 4.
― zappi, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago)
barry will be destroyed by his WC, capello's decisions to base his formation & all else around two unfit players in rooney & barry never gave the team a chance
still think capello needs to be given this team for another two years, but he needs to clear this shower out
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago)
christopher nolan for england manager
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago)
England at this World Cup reminds me of England's one day cricket team a year or two years ago, they look like they're playing a totally different game to everyone else, completely lacking in guile and outclassed tactically and technically.
― alananana (Mr Raif), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago)
capello not the problem, hope he stays
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:07 (fourteen years ago)
he's no chris nolan, have u seen batman begins?
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:08 (fourteen years ago)
I'm wavering on Capello now tbh - shit as those players were, they should still have been set out to do better than that.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:08 (fourteen years ago)
what do you care mr scotsman! you going traitor? ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago)
you wonder why people think you support Rangers? haha
supporting national teams is for mugs
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago)
http://webmedia.newseum.org/newseum-multimedia/dfp/jpg27/lg/NY_NYP.jpg
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago)
Are the Germans always such gracious, diffident winners? No end of the game grandstanding at all. Good-bye Astro Boy, Super Frankie, John George Terry, and El Capitan, Steven George Gerrard (referred to as such by the Univision announcers).
I thought Gerrard did well--he set up the only (allowed) English goal.
My two teams are out--I guess I'm going for Argentina now (hopefully a safer bet).
― Virginia Plain, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago)
capello not the problem
No major tactical changes at half time = suicide.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago)
Haha, is that for real? (I realize it's the Post, but even so...)
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBkbj_S3etY
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:12 (fourteen years ago)
supporting national teams is for mugs― cozen,
― cozen,
Scots our age are far too used to heartbreak.At least England qualifies for world cups.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:12 (fourteen years ago)
stanm, they were 2-1 down and on top (although could go either way) at half time, not 3-0 down.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago)
When the national anthems were ringing out the cameras were focusing on cracking German cuties in the stands.
When the English anthem rung out the cameras focused on Mick Jagger.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago)
basic gerard/barry/formation stuff is a problem, but not something you can fix at half time really
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago)
Lolz at BBC playing their '66 in reverse angle. Guess it had to be done.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago)
Nice bit of Ian Mac on the outro.
― Michael Jones, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago)
ok, true, caek, but it was pretty obvious this German onslaught wasn't over by a long way.
BTW, USA: The URL's meant to be funny, but after yesterday's defeat it's probably true again: http://www.theonion.com/channels/womens-sports-and-soccer/
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:15 (fourteen years ago)
Hate Harry, but at least he didn't call for Capello's head.
Don't want him out really but its looking like Sam Alladyrce will get his chance
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:16 (fourteen years ago)
On Expanding The Role Of Replay In Baseball"I'm worried it will slow down the agonizing, grinding natural pace of the game."
"I'm worried it will slow down the agonizing, grinding natural pace of the game."
<3 Onion
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:16 (fourteen years ago)
tbh I am probably gonna flip flop this afternoon and support Mexico b/c of super nice burrito stand guys who fed and consoled my drunk ass yesterday on the way home from watching the USA match
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago)
Speaking as an American who played a little as a youth, but really only got into watching it when the US hosted the World Cup (in '94?) and once again this year, and doesn't follow EPL or MLS or anything, I think my interest in the game will parallel that of basketball. It's not engaging enough for me to follow in regular league play, but when there's something to play for (like a finals situation or an international convergence like the World Cup), I'll find it really easy to become obsessed.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago)
yeah I know we're rivals and all, but I can't help but support Mexico this afternoon. I'm usually an underdog supporter in general tho.
― flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago)
I was once like you xp
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-mexico-argentina-20100627,0,1019971.story
My head says Argentina but my heart would love the upset of upsets here.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago)
Vintage England
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago)
I'm full bore rooting for Mexico to win at this point.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago)
yeah def
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago)
reall hoping I can get out of work in time for some of it but it's not looking good
― flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago)
Trending: WorldwideMick JaggerWasit GoblogFabio CapelloFrank LampardAlan ShearerGano AlemaniaGermany 4-1 EnglandDisallowed GoalSteven Gerrard#worldcup
Mick JaggerWasit GoblogFabio CapelloFrank LampardAlan ShearerGano AlemaniaGermany 4-1 EnglandDisallowed GoalSteven Gerrard#worldcup
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago)
boy England ought to be grateful for that disallowed goal. it'll keep the heat off for a bit no?
― flapjackin (gbx), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago)
It'll let some losers pretend they're not losers for a bit, probably
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago)
Less England more Capello ought to be etc.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago)
Wouldn't wanna own a bockwurst concession for the next few hours tho
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago)
Mick Jagger's definitely bad luck for the teams he supports, based on the last two days. So it's partly his fault as well.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago)
"for a bit": about five mins, yeah.
If Eng had lost 2-1 after a good 2nd half performance it might have led to change in goal line tech but as it ended Blatter.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.mystringdolls.com/ourshop/prod_900257-Sepp-Blatter-Voodoo-Doll.html
― Born too beguiled (DavidM), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago)
If you wanna torture yourself please listen to the anti-'foreigner' rants on 5live now.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago)
Tragic that the BBC is legally obliged to broadcast xenophobic dickery tbh
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago)
Wouldn't wanna own a bockwurst concession for the next few hours
I am actually eating a bockwurst right now. From Lidl, no less.
― Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago)
i am drinking excellent german beer right now
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago)
What are they saying on 5live?
― Chris, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago)
what Chris said, I cant bring myself to dig out my DAB radio and tune in
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago)
Alan Green - "Remind me what I should do if I see that Uruguay linesman in the airport? - I'm watching you son..."
― Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago)
That was earlier admittedly but still I thought - "steady on old chap, someone might get hurt"
― Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago)
that alan green thing is a joke reference to the fact that he saw the uruguayan officials in an airport a couple of days ago and they were doing an annoying "people who talk with their friends like they're putting on a performance for everyone else around them" thing
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago)
obviously alan green is a polite person with a wonderful indoors voice himself
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago)
hope they can replace shearer with james now tbh
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago)
as usual: quality lols at the disparity between the english media's perception of the potential of the england team vis-a-vis how fucking dire they are.
― Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago)
Just put 5live on. "English manager for English job!"
― Chris, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago)
altho i did have the fat one in my fantasy football team so almost disappointed that didn't count. in fact, yes i'm disappointed it didn't count - england would still have lost if it had.
― Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSimyU3EdKw
― William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, I know it was a joke but I still think it was unnecessarily boorish especially as what he actually said (I have been reminded) is "I'm looking for you son".
― Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago)
― Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
ROFL @ video
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago)
Listening to Capello it seems he doesn't want to go, but only as long as the FA have confidence in him - so basically the media will do a Capello like 'press' on the FA and he's basically off.
And then when pressed went back: alright as long as its a foreign manager that has spent time in the English league. I guess he doesn't know the pressures in Spain and Italy.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:54 (fourteen years ago)
606 is amazing at times like these
― zappi, Sunday, 27 June 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago)
Apparently Lampard's goal counts at Ladbrokes & William Hill for some bets (e.g. number of goals scored in first half, I suppose, don't know how this works exactly)
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago)
word is landon 'hi bianca' donovan impregnated a lady while at everton. he is getting the hang of being a football star in england
― 156, Sunday, 27 June 2010 17:26 (fourteen years ago)
stuart braithwaite on twitter: "I wish there was a German word that meant to take pleasure from other peoples misfortune. That would be great."
― Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 27 June 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago)
impregnated a lady
As opposed to impregnated anyone/anything else.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 17:29 (fourteen years ago)
Ya Se Armó!!
Fuck England. Mexico is like a home game around here anyway.
― Kiitën (admrl), Sunday, 27 June 2010 17:32 (fourteen years ago)
Hell to the yes. If the miracle happens Santa Ana won't stop partying until the quarterfinals.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 17:32 (fourteen years ago)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Vv5Qy4KW9NY/SveYsdBRN3I/AAAAAAAAAEo/jkO1xq5bIfM/S220/MexiKitty.bmp
― Kiitën (admrl), Sunday, 27 June 2010 17:34 (fourteen years ago)
Guy being interviewed on Sky News (think its a journo im not sure) says Geramany cheated and would be disgusted if Germany win the World Cup. He said the goalkeeper is a cheat because he clearly saw it was over the line yet played on.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 17:40 (fourteen years ago)
Do under-12s in England still play 11 v 11 on full size pitches?
― Chris, Sunday, 27 June 2010 17:40 (fourteen years ago)
also lols
check who the tweet is by
http://i45.tinypic.com/2lkz976.jpg
He said the goalkeeper is a cheat because he clearly saw it was over the line yet played on.
Because all goalkeepers usually correct referees on decisions like that, right.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago)
Goalkeeper did break the rules of gravity and photoshop though:
http://i46.tinypic.com/yfhio.jpg
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 17:46 (fourteen years ago)
Not at the school I teach at, or the schools we play - don't know about the state sector though, or independent schools outside London.
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 27 June 2010 17:57 (fourteen years ago)
i played on full-size pitches from the age of 9, which was 1990, both in cub scouts and at secondary school. my school still has full size pitches.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago)
Tiny kids, wasting their lives, here. This was in Scotland, mind, world leader in terrible coaching.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago)
So Carragher had a bad game today. Apparently England have never knocked a major nation out of the World Cup or European Championship in a tournament outside of England which just goes to show what a joke it is to think of them as a real threat of winning anything.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:11 (fourteen years ago)
Still applicable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuGGcZDBYYg
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago)
xp yeah, carragher dreadful, hardly got a touch. rooney still worse.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago)
This was in Scotland, mind, world leader in terrible coaching.
world leader in coaching too tho aren't they?
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:15 (fourteen years ago)
Apparently England have never knocked a major nation out of the World Cup or European Championship in a tournament outside of England which just goes to show what a joke it is to think of them as a real threat of winning anything.
Spain never knocked a major nation out of the World Cup or European Championship between '64 and '08. I remember looking it up when I was trying to work out if England had beaten any major nation in the knock-out stages since '66 full stop and wasn't sure whether Spain in '96 should count as a major nation or not.
― if, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago)
mourinho, capello, eusebio, sacchi, capello and queiroz, among others, having done coaching badges at largs iirc
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago)
eh, seen worse decisions.
― zappi, Sunday, 27 June 2010 16:05 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Really? I honestly can't think of many when you factor everything in... I'm not saying England-Germany in the second round is a mega important game on a world scale but thinking abt it earlier I did honestly wonder if that non-goal could be the biggest impetus for replays being brought in yet. NB this was while it was still 2-1
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago)
football phrases you hate
"the goal that never was"
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago)
I think this is the full list of countries beaten by England in knockout rounds of World Cups and Euro Champs outside England:
(1968: Soviet Union in the 3rd place final, if we count that)1986: Paraguay1990: Belgium, Cameroon2002: Denmark2006: Ecuador
― anatol_merklich, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago)
that post was brought to you by the word honestly xxp
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago)
Maradona is not playing his #1 man Jonas, WHAT'S GOING ON.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago)
Greece etc etc
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago)
The papers are gonna be fucking insufferable over the next few days - I mean I don't care abt the team getting clowned at all but I really hated how it went down in 2007 when England failed to qualify for Euro 08 and ppl went on like it had been 11 Lord Haw-Haws out there instead of 11 misfiring footballers
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:23 (fourteen years ago)
Terry's England partner in defence, Matthew Upson blamed the flight of the ball for the first goal, which was scored by Klose.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
the omnipresent WAGs will be wearing their pessimistically coloured bras in the papers for a while, I guess.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah but Greece understood that they were limited and bought into a coach saying with the ability that we have we're going to have to play a certain way to progress thru' a tournament. England go into tournaments thinking they're as talented as any other team.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago)
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0gQr0dsf8J55H/x610.jpg
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago)
xps yeah I mean, um, those were different players spanning several decades... I think England went out at about the level their ability deserves but that is just a statistic rly
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:27 (fourteen years ago)
Blatter's at ARG-MEX - Belgian commentator: "FIFA has the money for a plane between the matches, but not for goal line cameras"
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.skysports.com/football/world-cup-2010/features/story/0,27203,15241_6232802,00.html
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago)
Can the English Premier League go ahead and bring in goal line technology without fifa/uefas approval?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago)
I couldn't quite believe Upson going on about the flight of the ball.
But really they are not there to verbalize but to play oh wait.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago)
It wasn't Upson who was caught out by the flight, he's just sticking up for the big man. Upson was caught out by lack of talent.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
xxp, don't think so.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/02Qu2fObfp4gZ/610x.jpg
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago)
It seems inevitable to me that Masch will get booked today and miss the q-final should Argentina manage to win. Maxi Rod undeniably faster than Veron and moves the ball faster but also he moves the ball inaccurately.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago)
Worst thing is that half the papers tomorrow will be calling for Capello to go but not one of them will say John Terry should never be allowed to disgrace the shirt again.
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago)
that would be a really strange thing to say
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago)
FIFA apparently can only afford one tickertape cleaner too.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago)
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:37 (fourteen years ago)
Is there a bookings amnesty at all?
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago)
okay that was nice and close
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago)
no one can defend, this is gonna be awesome.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago)
Wow, Lampard unlucky with the crossbar there
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago)
damn mexico
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago)
Aw man, shoulda gone in.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago)
Would love it if one of the english tv stations could get an interview with blatter about using technology.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago)
Blimey what a strike, and again juuuust wide.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago)
awesome start to this game
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago)
this is a good game for anyone not watching
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago)
booking amnesty after q-finals
Wow, keeper totally missed the ball there (first of the two chances)
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago)
you not watching then, caek?
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago)
Argentina's shorts & socks are all wrong.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago)
haha, yes, i'm watching, i'm just making syntactically imprecise posts too
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago)
^^^ doesn't know what "syntax" means
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, June 27, 2010 2:42 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
yes
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:39 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Actual question, possibly unanswerable: to what extent does he run tings at FIFA? As in, if he was very much in favour of it would that basically ensure that it went through?
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago)
Love Maradona's conniving sidekicks there.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago)
Anyway this game already way more involving than the previous one.
i think he's kind of a dictator for life when it comes to law, sadly. certainly very much more than a figurehead. xxp
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago)
Some Opta stats from Eng/Ger
• Wayne Rooney has lost the ball by being tackled in possession more often than any other player at the 2010 world cup finals• Rooney also completed only 55% of his passes for England against Germany - the lowest rate in the game• Germany scored four goals from six shots on target, while England mustered seven attempts on target• Manuel Neuer's assist for Klose's goal was the first by a goalkeeper at the world cup since 1966 (Kavazashvili for USSR)• The last time England conceded four goals in a world cup finals game was in 1954 v Uruguay• Frank Lampard's free-kick onto the bar was his 37th world cup shot without scoring, more than any other player (1966-2010)
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago)
Argentina's shorts & socks are all wrong.― Ismael Klata, Sunday, June 27, 2010 2:42 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmarkyes
Because Mexico have white shorts Argentina had to change.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago)
aiui Fifa is basically a rubber-stamp for Blatter. His position basically depends on getting on with a few dozen guys, and I think their status mostly comes from getting on with Blatter. Football politics (eg world cup bids) is a horrible thing
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:47 (fourteen years ago)
Already the Argentinian defence looks better than England's, even down to simple stuff like the spacing between the defenders, their awareness of where they are, etc.. Just now one of the Mexican strikers made a run, but two Argentinian players closed him down, took back the ball, and passed it to a third player who got it back up the field again. But this is the kind of basic stuff that England can't do.
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:52 (fourteen years ago)
I'm tempted to call bullshit on that stat about the goalkeeper assist because it seems so improbable! But I guess it is feasible too... also international teams don't tend to play a long ball game that much (lol England '90 excepted, sort of)
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:52 (fourteen years ago)
• Manuel Neuer's assist for Klose's goal was the first by a goalkeeper at the world cup since 1966 (Kavazashvili for USSR)
no way!
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:52 (fourteen years ago)
goooooal
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:55 (fourteen years ago)
Must've been offside
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:55 (fourteen years ago)
where they 2 defenders goal side or one
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:55 (fourteen years ago)
miles off
Clearest off side ever. If only there were cameras.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:56 (fourteen years ago)
miles offside
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:56 (fourteen years ago)
Crazy.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:56 (fourteen years ago)
why bother playing the games if you're going to let people score on clear offsides imo
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:56 (fourteen years ago)
oh hang on here
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:56 (fourteen years ago)
he cant change his mind though can he?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:56 (fourteen years ago)
See that's as bad as Lampard but we wouldn't use tech for it cos not goalline
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:56 (fourteen years ago)
Linesmen getting bodied today :/
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:56 (fourteen years ago)
Disallow it ffs
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago)
this is bizarre
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago)
Officials ruining this second round so far.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago)
.http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0gJV1Ozb1fdLb/x610.jpg
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
fully expect this to get pretty dirty now
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
past couple days reminding me why i can't get invested in this godforsaken sport
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
This could get horrible
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
ref bottled it; should've disallowed it
refs threatening to mar/taint this whole thing imo
― pearsonic, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
i wonder if this round/cup will be the final straw
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
could have changed his mind before restarting play
they're not supposed to show replays in the ground, right?
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
It's not the guy operating the big screen's fault ffs
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
We will be having these arguments in 4 years time. Im pretty damn sure we did in 2006 and 2002 on ilx
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
at some point fifa just has to give in
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
refs secretly conspiring to create a situation where adopting video replay is inevitable
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
doubt it, jordan, it happens so often
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
they have so many damn qualifying matches to test stuff out on, it makes literally no sense
are there gonna be any refs left for the finals?
"everyone knows that goal should not have stood but no one can do anything about it"
^^^ bollocks
mexico should just walk off the field
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
caek he couldnt change his mind before kickoff just because he saw the tv replay. Cuz its not allowed!(you just know the only thing that will change now from Fifa is that replays wont be shown on the screens at the WC anymore)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
this second round has really been a boon to coulibaly
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
he could have changed his mind before restarting play. doesn't matter where he got the info from. no rules that they have to pretend not to know what happened.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago)
So do we use replay for ALL decisions then 'cos that's a pretty big fucking change. If the flag goes up for offside do they just play on and finish the move just in case the player is actually ONSIDE?
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
(you just know the only thing that will change now from Fifa is that replays wont be shown on the screens at the WC anymore)
*weeps silent tears*
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
if he really did see it on the screen, I imagine he would have saved his own ass and changed the call
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
oh what a howler
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
HAHAHAHAHa
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
Free goal for Argentina there. Thank you, defender.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago)
LOL at camera rage
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago)
Fuckit, this is gonna be round two of 'everyone forgets abt the rong call because of defensive rottenness' innit
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago)
great punch to the camera man!
― Zeno, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago)
great finish mind you
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago)
Lovely from Higuain, albeit match now totally discredited.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago)
Disastrous! What the hell was that.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago)
pandemic: i think the only credible movement these days is for goal line decisions. some people support it for offside too. i don't think anyone supports it for fouls though.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
― Zeno, Sunday, June 27, 2010 2:03 PM (14 seconds ago)
yessss
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
incredible coolness in front of goal. can't imagine heskey pulling that off.
This game is hilarious. Maybe not so much if you're Mexican.
― Popture, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
no way mexico are gonna finish this game with 11 men
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
okay this game is giving me a horrific deja vu
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
Was it ever conclusively established if Zidane's red card in the 06 final was a result of the ref seeing it on the big screen? I remember the commentary floating that possibility but not if there was a statement or whatever
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:06 (fourteen years ago)
Current headline on espn soccernet: "Here we go again"
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:06 (fourteen years ago)
Osorio gives away the ball again. Not his day, perhaps.
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:06 (fourteen years ago)
it was the linesman who spotted the zidane thing, wasn't it?
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:06 (fourteen years ago)
there's no doubt it was though, but most people were like "who cares it was the right decision"
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:06 (fourteen years ago)
ppl went on like it had been 11 Lord Haw-Haws out there instead of 11 misfiring footballers
and he was irish :)
wasn't it the goalie provided the long ball for ghana's winner last night?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago)
what are FIFA motivations in not using cameras exactly?
― Zeno, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago)
If nothing else, the likely Germany/Argentina match should be a firestorm.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago)
Stupid decisions aside, this is quality football - England were all over the place at this point.
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
slows the game down, undermines the referee xxp
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, argentina looking great, mexico not looking bad going forward too.
probably something to do with losing money too xps
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
hah that was a 10 min xpost and as i'm currently enjoying a scooby doo dvd it's apparent i've missed quite a lot
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
hahahahaha
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
zeno. lineker explained it after the match but i didn't quite hear him. He definitely mentioned cost though.
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
'undermining the ref' is what happens when ten million people can see something slo-mo twice within ten seconds and judge you on your seeing it once at full speed, tbh
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
I remember with Zidane the fourth official, who apparently was by a monitor on the sideline, came on and had a chat with the referee. Don't know of any solid conclusions, though.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
Mexico Englandesque at the back though
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
So who will sepp blatter be revealed as?xp
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
Ruh roh!
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
"slow the game"
bullshit excuse.
― Zeno, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
where did they have the goal line officials recently, the champions league? what was that all about, an experiment?
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
Gonzo you fool, how did you miss that??
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
i think the other reason is that it would make the rules non-universal -- you obv. can't have replays in lower league games.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
Europa Lge xp
is the mexico keeper shorter than messi?
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
Zeno - there are quite a few arguments against it (not saying I am myself), I think maybe the strongest is that it couldn't be used in areas of football that don't have the money for cameras etc. In every other respect, the game we're talking about now and a bunch of fat hungover dudes playing Sunday league are essentially playing exactly the same game
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
So who will sepp blatter be revealed as?
Snidely Whiplash
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
FIFA fetishises having the same rules at all levels, and as you can't have video replays at your local park game, the ref at the world cup has to pretend he doesn't have castiron proof within seconds. Fifa probably thinks it's making a huge concession by having electronic subs' boards tbh
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
Which hasn't stopped other sports doing it, but there you are xp to self
4th officials are a post-1994 thing iirc
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
What the!
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=shanoff/020702
http://i47.tinypic.com/v4yln7.png
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
Go down! The ref owes you a pen!
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
they should stick extra refs behind the goal at least ffs
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
An incorrectly ruled out 'offside' goal is as legitimate as one ruled out that crosses over the line so you could argue that it's wrong to have tech for one but not the other. On the other hand perhaps it's better to get more decisions right even if you're not going to get all decisions right. Personally I would be against using tech for offside cos yes I do belive that would slow the game down too much whereas goal line over or not is much much rarer.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago)
oh its kicking off
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago)
pile up!!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
Jesus H.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
the gang have just visited the shaman woman about the wikki tikkis fyi, how y'all getting on?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
heh how bout someone gimme a headsup stream actually, while i'm online moaning about the tv being in use?
xxp At least the Mexican team give a shit (don't want to keep banging on about this but) unlike England.
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
just do what i used to do in Kick Off - turn the offside rule OFF
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago)
pandemic: the argument with starting with replays for goalline decisions is it's a completely straightforward decision to make with a replay. offside can be a little trickier and is often inconclusive from tv (and live), so people worry that it would take multiple replays to figure out. this is mostly bullshit, but the realpolitik probably requires it.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago)
I never felt England didn't give a shit, just that they couldn't apply said shit in a physical manner
― heywood jabulani (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:23 (fourteen years ago)
I'm fed up with hearing about the difficulties in appeals and all that, just getting some of things right would be an improvement
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago)
"better to get more decisions right even if you're not going to get all decisions right."
"Personally I would be against using tech for offside cos yes I do belive that would slow the game down too much "
who should it?another ref. could be next to the screen, and he should get the final decision.
xpost to pandemic
― Zeno, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago)
the majority of england's star players only give a shit insofar as serves their own individual egos, tbph
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago)
Upson has crazy eyes!
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:26 (fourteen years ago)
caek:Yeah I can see the argument for goal line tech, but if used for offside that in effect players would never have to stop when flagged offside 'cos what if the decision is proved to be wrong and the chance disappears.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:26 (fourteen years ago)
robot officials with lasers for eyes! it will happen
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
England at this World Cup reminds me of England's one day cricket team a year or two years ago, they look like they're playing a totally different game to everyone else, completely lacking in guile and outclassed tactically and technically.― alananana (Mr Raif), Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:06 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― alananana (Mr Raif), Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:06 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
in the hysteria, best thing i've read
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
"just do what i used to do in Kick Off - turn the offside rule OFF
― Guru Meditation (Ste), 19:21 "
...from outside the penalty box maybe
― Zeno, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
update- have just been presented with a birthday cake and found a good stream, 100% improvement chez darraghmac tbh. scooby doo continues fine
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago)
much as it pains me
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago)
if the issue is disrupting the flow of the game, then it's easy enough to set it up to discourage teams from frivolously challenging - only give them one challenge, renewed if they get it right, gone if they get it wrong, punish teams for incorrect challenges by giving their opponents a corner or five minutes with Messi in their team, whatever. The outright dismissals (aside from the democracy of rules stuff, which is silly anyway - get top quality refs in the lowest leagues and then that's an argument) have no consideration for the fact that it could be put into practice in a sophisticated and subtle way.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:29 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3EYOPiLhD0
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago)
the majority of england's star players only give a shit insofar as serves their own individual egos, tbph― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, June 27, 2010 7:25 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, June 27, 2010 7:25 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
wrong but you're close. it's a question of agency re: premier league. as in: when am i supposed to switch on or what am i switching on for? sadly the majority of the golden generation didn't understand how to switch on.
but. as a diehard england supporter the non-goal was a killer. germany's second half goals came because england were chasing the game.
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago)
seedorf's just made a good point about them chasing the game as individuals, evidenced by nine players in the box when lampard took the freekick that lead to the third goal.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago)
Half time fight explanation, according to the Belgian commentator : usually the big screens in the stadium only show some clear and not-discussed moments, but this time they showed the offside goal and turned the screens off immediately (but too late, the Mexican players and everyone else had seen something wasn't right)
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago)
dumb reason imo. for a dozen reason WC games are more important, and FIFA should treat them as such wrt officiating. they try to employ the highest quality refs to work the games, right? isn't that not fair to lower league games that are ref'd by less competent men?
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago)
xxxp chasing the game in an egotistical and non-disciplined fashion- giles and hamann had a lot to say about this after the game
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah I mean I think it's just that they still err on the side of idealism whereas public opinion is shifting further towards pragmatism literally each day
― matthew ugh, son (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago)
Mexico getting back into it here but Marquez not doing himself any favors.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
well that wasn't offside.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
!
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
what a goal
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
Carlito!!!!
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
omg
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
Garg, that'll do it. Class goal.
Argentina are great, and they should win the final cup
― Zeno, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
Serious reffing q: if the assistant waves the flag for offside, can the ref elect not to blow if he feels certain it is wrong? I would assume yes since the ref is supposed to be kinda omnipotent, but have also seen defenders relax as soon as they see the flag?
― anatol_merklich, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
Arguably was offside - Higuain in goalie's line of sight
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
yes, he can ignore the assistant.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
no way the german defence will deal with that
― ogmor, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
man what a goal
― StanM, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago)
thx caek
― anatol_merklich, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago)
i do it quite often at my level because the linesmen are substitutes and either don't know the rules or cheat
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago)
Ref is basically omnipotent, yes
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago)
Kinda think Germany/Argentina be more evenly matched than not but we'll see...
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago)
really looking forward to that game
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
I linesman'd as a sub once and yes, I did cheat - obv not v well as the opposition just laughed in my face. I felt really bad, and deserved to
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
"no way the german defence will deal with that"
wishfull thinking, for me too. i wish i was sure about that
― Zeno, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
haha! i have replaced linesman before, but for just not knowing the rules of football.
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
I like how Mexico's keeper just splatted on the ground after diving for Tevez's goal.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
Going to be a long half hour but Mexico will hopefully go down fighting...
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
I'm glad Argentina are turning it on now, for mexico's sake (but not Blatter's)
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
stat on the BBC: maradonna won 3 of 23 games as a club manager
― caek, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
I used run the line as a sub often, but my team mates hated me doing it 'cos I used to do it honestly and they used to argue that nobody expected that! I can't vouch for my competency however.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
mexico goalie is barthez y/n
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago)
Waiting for him to do the pulling the legs of his shorts up thing after conceding a goal before making my final judgment.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
Quite impressed that in all 4 matches this weekend both sides have tried to take the impetus from the off and actually tried to win rather than just trying not to lose.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
Im saying that one wasn't in
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
Veron brought on in a "yeah we'll give you some time" move.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
did that cross the line?!?! waiting for the replayxp
― p-dog, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, no way.
Finish!
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
shit is ON. maybe.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
another goal in the next 5-10 mins would make things interesting
― cozen, Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
All right, there we go.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
That's maybe better than Tevez's imo
― matthew ugh, son (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
ooh, that makes it academic I guess! xp to myself
― p-dog, Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
You mean 2-1 Mark Bright you dunce
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
Mexico still v much involved
― p-dog, Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
Lovely strike for Hernandez. Hope Mexico can keep snapping at their heels.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago)
I didn't get a replay of that was it over the line chance. Still plus one to Mexico, minus one to Argentina and you know...
― Popture, Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
Still a good game almost down to the wire here, great to see.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
Argentina should still be ok, but they do look like they switched off 20 mins too early
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
how many lumps does that guy have on his face now?
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
Fucking hell guys just keep the blasted ball.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
Diego sub yourself on mate.
Great from Henze!
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago)
want mexico to win but they're annoying me now giving the ball away in some stupid plays.
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago)
But on the main, dodgy at the back - would have been way tighter if the ref called it off for the first.
Argies would be favourites, but not by much.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago)
Just wading into the 'goal line technology' debate a bit late in the day: the thing about the two ridiculous decisions today is that they weren't marginal calls that needed replays to get sorted out, they were blindingly obvious to everybody watching on TV first time round in real time. This wasn't a 'Henry handled it twice, but the linesman and the referee were unsighted so he got away with it' or a 'Mendes's shot was clearly over the line but because he shot from 50 yards out neither the ref or the linesman were anywhere near the goal and so they couldn't see it' - the kind of thing which usually makes the case for video technology. These were just two really easy calls that were fucked up blind officials.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago)
Maradonna getting his hands on the ball there...
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
Hahah Maradona gets the ball and then waits for the Mexican player to come and take it from him...
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
Would love to see a Mexican goal now just to spook Argentina a bit.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
alright someone give me a reason why that argentinian dude shouldn't get a yellow card for rolling around on the ground there
― youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
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― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago)
Doesn't VIVA MEXICO CABRONES mean something like LONG LIVE MEXICO ASSHOLES?
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago)
Cabron is one of those marvelous words that means more than what it seems.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago)
Man if you just watched the highlights of the England game that the BBC are showing now you'd never believe that 4-1 was anything like a realistic result. Weird thing is they are pretty otm
― matthew ugh, son (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:43 (fourteen years ago)
hahaaa "pelado" is a bum iirc
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago)
(xp) It wasn't a one-sided game, imo. England were far worse against Algeria. It looked like either side could win it up until Germany's third, then England crumbled.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:46 (fourteen years ago)
Next England manager:
'Arry 7/4Liverpool's Roy Hodgson 7/2Stuart Pearce 7/1
Don't think it'll be Redknapp, it's not like the FA has a habit of hiring Tottenham bosses with dodgy financial backgrounds.
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
Hodgson would be good. Personally, I don't see any point getting rid of Cappello if the alternative is Allardyce or someone like that.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
^yeah this - I think if nothing else the FA are past the point where they're likely to be swayed by 'only English managers know how to manage England' asshattery
― matthew ugh, son (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 June 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago)
MLS is apparently seeking to capitalize on USA soccer interest by starting the league back up again this weekend, even sneaking onto epsn3 to try and fake out the newbs
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Sunday, 27 June 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago)
Hodgson would be great because he seems to very good at getting the best out of limited players, which pretty much sums up what England actually needs: unfortunately, they (FA/Fans/ media) think they need the opposite - getting prodigiously talented players to perform to their *obvious* ability and function as a team.
― sonofstan, Sunday, 27 June 2010 21:08 (fourteen years ago)
Silver Lining: the one time England really looked like favourites to win a tournament (in my lifetime) was Euro 96 post-thrashing Holland and that optimism was crushed in the familiar penalty shootout defeat to Germany, rather marring my 23rd birthday celebrations. At least this time round a)we had about 20 minutes between realising we were definitely going to lose and the final whistle going, b)we were pretty fucking far from being favourites and victory today still probably wouldn't have led anywhere, and c)my birthday was yesterday and I had a good time.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 27 June 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago)
sorta smart move by the MLS? I think a lot of bars might put an MLS soccer match on over a baseball game at the moment.
― iatee, Sunday, 27 June 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, it was good that they took a break even though not that many players went to the WC. People still complain about playing during the tournament, but all the countries w/ MLS players are, predictably, out.
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Sunday, 27 June 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago)
And I ain't going to lie: if the Fire can beat the Revs tonight I'll feel a lot better.
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Sunday, 27 June 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
feel pretty bad for the mexicans, who were a decent team and would have had better chances to progress if drawn against someone less frightening than Argentina - suppose that's what they get for not winning their group - or had they not gone 1 nil down to that ridiculous opener.
argentina are far too dodgy at the back to win this, but they could beat Germany.
― Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 27 June 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
Can't really see the famed dodginess at the back myself other than the Korea goal, they've just looked really potent to me. Other than them only the Dutch have looked uniformly impressive, and they seem too pleasant to win it. Would love to see that as the final though, and put right the wrongs of '78.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 21:29 (fourteen years ago)
try watching Demichelis in any game.
― Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 27 June 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago)
Just watching the highlights yet again - I didn't give enough love to the last two German goals. Clinical counter-attacking like that is maybe the most thrilling thing in football.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 June 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago)
right ok just got here - I really, really hope someone's gif'd Heinze's cameraman moment
oddly, that's all
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 22:18 (fourteen years ago)
aha, cozen's only gone and supplied a Youtube link! :D
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 22:21 (fourteen years ago)
please to post here, lj.
― Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 27 June 2010 22:23 (fourteen years ago)
my friend once said heinze looks a bit like bob dylan - yes, it's perhaps the most tenuous similarity imaginable, if not completely, utterly wrong - and i can't help but see it any time i look at him now.
― Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 27 June 2010 22:24 (fourteen years ago)
heinze is a terrible cunt - also argentina have no shape and despite their brilliant players will almost certainly lose to germany IMO
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago)
Google image search shows Heinze doing a few good Dylan impressions in the small images, which disappear when you look at the bigger ones. Close enough. I liked him tonight, getting whacked in the head once and deciding he could wildly throw himself about face-first into everything because what worse could happen.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 June 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago)
I was rooting hard for Mexico and I'm really sad that they didnt go through. Also, really surprised at how awful Argentina was (ok not awful, but just not great). Yeah they scored 3 goals but one was offside, the other came from a really silly defender mistake and the third came from nowhere. i can't seem to remember Argentina playing good close to Mexico's box, no good passing or anything, they just relied on personal exploits (and well when you've Messi & friends upfront, who can blame them i guess). i'm also quite aware that I'm terribly biased but they really didn't impress me at all. Hope they lose to Germany!
― Jibe, Sunday, 27 June 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago)
surprised at all the americans rooting for mexico just cause of the heated as fuck mexico-usa matches
― max, Sunday, 27 June 2010 22:55 (fourteen years ago)
― Zeno, Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:40 (3 hours ago)
this is 100% offtm - argentina are an absolute fucking shambles who happen to have great players - they will lose against the first good team they play i.e. germany
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 22:57 (fourteen years ago)
Total Shambles or Total Football? You Decide
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 June 2010 22:59 (fourteen years ago)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, June 27, 2010 2:46 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark
arg usually wear black shorts (and plus weren't arg the home team?)
― mizzell, Sunday, 27 June 2010 22:59 (fourteen years ago)
agree with lj's post except the last part: could see them beating germany!
― Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 27 June 2010 23:00 (fourteen years ago)
well to be fair mexico weren't half bad - in fact I was impressed and perhaps a similar thing will happen vs germany except I'd rate germany above mexico - maybe not 'good' team but 'very good' team
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago)
mexico had the better shape, passing, territory and ball-retention - they also had the worse luck, the (slightly) worse finishing and a slight lack of cutting edge
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 23:02 (fourteen years ago)
It wasn't a one-sided game, imo. England were far worse against Algeria. It looked like either side could win it up until Germany's third, then England crumbled.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 27 June 2010 20:46 (2 hours ago) Bookmark
rong? england had three good minutes- they might have built on that had they gotten the credit for lampard's goal, sure- but the entire first half up til upson's goal was germany unlocking them time and again.
second half- germany sat back, and weren't bothered until it was 4-1 and neuer saved well from gerrard.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 23:07 (fourteen years ago)
Anyone who thinks that game was close is talking crazy talk. England played the same way they have all tournament, inability to retain the ball, hollywood passes etc.
― Number None, Sunday, 27 June 2010 23:23 (fourteen years ago)
gerrard's hollyballs aren't getting enough attention- feature of the tournament, and a major part of the problem. if capello stays he wants to be sorting that out, prob with a new supersub role for our la stevie
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 23:27 (fourteen years ago)
To be fair he's pretty great at the hopelessly scudded shot from 30 yards that goes wide/lollops straight into the keeper's arms, as well.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 June 2010 23:29 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, i got the impression in the second half that Gerrard was trying to take on the saviour role he plays for Liverpool. There were a few really speculative shots when other players were in decent positions.
― Number None, Sunday, 27 June 2010 23:33 (fourteen years ago)
in the second half of his career, you mean?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 June 2010 23:40 (fourteen years ago)
Gerrard: The Hollywood Years
― Number None, Sunday, 27 June 2010 23:47 (fourteen years ago)
http://media.bestofmicro.com/Number-10-The-Bourne-Identity,H-K-93944-13.jpg
Stephen Gerrard (played by Matt Damon) has a quiet word with his local wine bar's resident DJ in this scene from his upcoming biopic
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 June 2010 23:53 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/blogs/popwrap/200903/Images/200903_Angelina-Jolie-Bourne-Identity.jpg
Steve and his wife Alex (played by Emma Thompson) slip out the back door to avoid a confrontation with local community businessmen
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 June 2010 23:57 (fourteen years ago)
http://parentzing.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/matt-damon.jpg
Unhappy at home, Steve begins a dangerous liaison with a new love (Yeardley Smith)
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago)
MORE
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:04 (fourteen years ago)
ooooohh
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:08 (fourteen years ago)
gerrard, (played by matt damon) takes advice from local 'respected' 'figure' 'pancake' about his troubled 'marriage'
http://blog.mlive.com/grpress/entertainment_impact/2009/07/large_departed.jpg
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:10 (fourteen years ago)
http://iloveanuschka.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/matt-damon-faaattt.jpg
Steve rediscovers his form after turning to England team mate Frank Lampard (played by Danny Dyer) for diet tips
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:13 (fourteen years ago)
pretty sure that's (Matt Damon's) acclaimed turn as wayne rooney (played by Matt Damon)
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:18 (fourteen years ago)
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Jun/Week4/15655737.jpghttp://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Jun/Week4/15655738.jpghttp://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Jun/Week4/15655742.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:20 (fourteen years ago)
http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Teenage+Cancer+Trust+2009+Press+Room+Day+4+6Nowmmh2ub3l.jpg
Before the most crucial World Cup of his career, Frank turns to Chelsea icon Dennis Wise (played by Dennis Wise) for advice on how to be a great team player
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:22 (fourteen years ago)
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Jun/Week4/15655746.jpg
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Jun/Week4/15655741.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:22 (fourteen years ago)
Stay classy, Richard Littlejohn.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:24 (fourteen years ago)
jesus rooney has never been more shrek
also, if only they could hold a line that well the rest of the time etc etc
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:24 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radioassets/photos/2008/10/18/48675_2.jpg
Lifelong Conservative Frank Lampard records an election endorsement for President David Cameroon (played by Alan Hansen) before his crucial Group E decider
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:25 (fourteen years ago)
Ah, Littlejohn writes for the Mail now. Who wants to cobble together for a tactical nuclear strike?
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:26 (fourteen years ago)
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movies/12/11/invictus.movie.review/t1larg.invictus.review.wb.jpg
Steven Gerrard calls the play that will lead his England team mates (played by N-Dubz feat. Calvin Harris) to score the pipecock that wins the 2010 World Session of Soccerball trophy
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:28 (fourteen years ago)
actual full guffaw
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:29 (fourteen years ago)
jesus guys...abysmal tabloid shit above, and i mean those jpgs of films etc, not the actual covers. get a grip.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:53 (fourteen years ago)
it's like a little switch goes in your head when liverpool or liverpool players are barracked and you turn from a hilarious A+ dude into a massive fucking tosser
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:56 (fourteen years ago)
easy now
― Kiitën (admrl), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:58 (fourteen years ago)
just remember- everyone else that steps into a fight on gerrard's behalf goes to jail
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:58 (fourteen years ago)
well louis on the contrary it's like all those jpgs, many of which are about frank lampard whom i utterly dislike, are still just not funny...you guys need to slate some capello and have a bit of national self respect.
but on l'pool, since you asked, darragh typically stepping into liverpool disgust, england were shit and gerrard wasn't great but lets face it, darragh would blame gerrard regardless. he set up a goal and was one of the better players in a bad side, and i say that as someone who firmly believe he's just after the worst season of his career. i mean seriously dmac, do you even believe there's any cred whatsoever in you saying the exact same thing after every game...ie whoever is a liverpool player is to blame...gerrard has ruined entire world cup etc...take a look at yourself, it's farcical and not least from someone who can actually talk well about football, bury the hatchet dude...
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:59 (fourteen years ago)
:) ah no, in fairness gerrard's been a great servant to liverpool over the years, but he's fucking cook for england. carragher's just a straight out cunt! it's all lols besides that, really.
i mean seriously dmac, do you even believe there's any cred whatsoever in you saying the exact same thing after every game
there's merit in consistency, tbh. especially if what you believe is a problem never changes. it gets me into a rut, yeah, but sure i'm comfortable enough, i'm not getting paid for this gig y'know.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:01 (fourteen years ago)
tho i do admit, there's non of me mates (some of whom are incredibly clichéd liverpool braying fools of the worst kind) make me hang me head like you do, so (and i've said this before) i'd say a lot of my anti-pool sentiment comes from listening to their nonsense all day, and i should prob tone it down for more sensible fora.
re: liverpool players being all of the problem for england- well, rooney's moved to manchester, i suppose.
i guess it's just lucky for all concerned that barry never signed for ye
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:04 (fourteen years ago)
england tho, they're just rank. an awful team, and fifa rly shouldn't work things so that they're top 10 in rankings, it's never true and always has an unsettling effect on players/press/fanbase
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:05 (fourteen years ago)
bang otm...hansen said worse than algeria which was crazy. today was two fairly poor defences fighting against each other and tbf if it got to 2-2 england wouldn't have been raked on the counter so easily. germany played beautiful passing games but this was prob england's best performance of, admittedly, a fairly poor wc.
x-post except gerrard was the only one barely even achieving in a woeful england side, they scored 3 goals in 4 games and he got one and set up another, and had best chance of the game for them today too. nowhere near his best but not their main problem either, not even close to their main prob which was NO FUCKING PACE at the back.
x-post haha darragh i wouldn't attack you except i know you might listen! that plus i've had about 15 pints on a sunday
utterly ludicrous defence today, they didn't know whether to go to the runner or stand off all afternoon and instead did neither, meaning germany played through ball after through ball....fucking awful.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:06 (fourteen years ago)
The only one I found *really* funny was the Invictus one but I thought the idea had potential if it could expand to the entire England team. I'd say it was a harmless jape, a bit of late-night powder-puff from a fella trying to make as much light of England's bad performance as he can. Sure some of the jokes are a bit crass but crass suits this situation just fine - the game was only a few hours ago! Sophisticated humour can wait for a bit of proper reflection.
Gerrard was trying to do stuff in and around the penalty-box - my main criticism with him isn't that he shot so much but that he didn't shoot as well as we know he can. He wasn't the worst - the centre-backs, Rooney and especially Barry were much, much worse.
Sorry if that seemed harsh above - yr a good guy and I don't want beef - you just came across as unnecessarily quick to vituperate something I really don't see a problem with.
David James for manager obv
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:07 (fourteen years ago)
I don't think Gerrard was by any distance England's worst player it's just funny to draw attention to his messianic tendencies.
― Number None, Monday, 28 June 2010 01:08 (fourteen years ago)
no worries louis, no offence taken at all.
at least stevie was on the fucking ball. and actually glen j was prob best defender. but srsly if i was english i'd be fucking slating capello right now. what a creep, "oh i can't speak english anymore now we've lost", that plus blaming the disallowed goal, total lack of class and character. shame on him.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:10 (fourteen years ago)
the capello questino is a really strange one- i'd criticise every selection he's made in the buildup, in his 30 man squad (tho maybe not this so much), in his 23 man squad (disastrous whittling imo) and every lineup and sub since.
but his qualification campaign was fucking good, y'know?
i'd say, at this stage, the FA have to have the balls to back their man, and it's then up to him to get rid of an awful lot of, if not dead wood, then players that don't fit the template he wants to establish.
if he hasn't sorted lampard (who was worse than gerrard over 4 games, yeah, it's just that bad lampard is anonymous, but bad gerrard sticks out a mile), gerrard and barry into a midfield by now (and surely 5 was the way to go here) then he never will, and the next competitive squad will tell a lot.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:11 (fourteen years ago)
and yeah, him making a meal out of one disallowed goal when (let's be honest here) it would have been a travesty if england had gone in level, it was.... not befitting a manager of his stature
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:12 (fourteen years ago)
this local garda, i don't like his methods, but dammit he gets results
Serious question: do people think there's enough quality coming through to totally overhaul this England side?
― Number None, Monday, 28 June 2010 01:15 (fourteen years ago)
also I mean NV's just doing it for his own amusement really, Peter Drury does it to the whole nation and he's also about 98,357,826x more unacceptable than NV
maybe it's time to bump the soccerball radge repository tho
Glen J and A Cole both had decent games, I thought. MANY of England's problems can be put down to Barry, in this game. Barry, Rooney and the centre-backs.
Gerrard needs to play centrally. He's got one more tournament in him and I want to see him linking directly with the frontman/men. I really like Lampard and reckon he should be persevered with. Barry, no. Milner, squad. Argh I don't know...we have a lot of promising youngsters, might be time to blood some.
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:15 (fourteen years ago)
I mean with Rooney, his every first touch was to heavily knock it back the way it came, catch up with it, and attempt to distribute it wide. There was no fucking spark at all. When he had the chance to play in Milner he fucking scuffed it and gave the defender time to block the shot. Absolutely terrible. Really think he needs to be dropped for a while.
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:17 (fourteen years ago)
agree fabio was great in qualification, that's why i blame him now you know...i really think terrygate has to be the thing that fucked them up. it felt like the media and the team were all united and v positive before that.
all that said for all the typical "oh overpaid ruddy nonces in the war we ate mice" bullshit about players it's actually the managerial compensation thing that rankles with me more than anything. for sheer terror of a "good" manager (one who has done well in last 6 months, not badly in last 6 months) getting stolen, they're all signed up to crazy contracts and there's this huge wedge of cash in cold storage. then they fuck up and get 6m quid. tonight they asked capello would he resign!! like why the fuck would anyone resign when they are due 10m or whatever for staying on. it's so fucking undignified.
x-post and yeah barry as "oh god we need him he is our messiah" was just one of many crazy yet typical english media narratives in this world cup. it's like...we miss player x, oh god he's the key. plus aside note and surely someone has mentioned this, heskey on to try claw back two goals??? did fabio even use all three subs? imo any subs into that team should be crouch and cole EVERY TIME. only two on that bench with some cajones...
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:19 (fourteen years ago)
I've seen Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney play at club level, and in big matches, for going on ten years now for all of them (ok 8 for rooney or w/e).
Gareth Barry can actually pass the ball five yards, and make a tackle/hold position with some intelligence.
English centre halves don't usually miss aerial balls by 5+ yards.
I don't think 'quality' is the yardstick England failed to measure up to here.
But that said, I think there were enough options on the bench for Capello to have made 6 or so changes after the Algeria game, and it wouldn't have hurt in terms of performance or message sent.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:20 (fourteen years ago)
strange, strange narratives throughout qualification-
we need g barry to make us tick (ie do the things that any midfielder above div 2 or w/e can do, just with the composure to keep it simple and disciplined)
we need heskey to make rooney work (ie 9% of our team is taken up with no discernible output, but in some fuzzy way there's a wider benefit that merits not playing a goalscorer at a tournament where chances will be at a premium)
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:23 (fourteen years ago)
carrick, btw, must be absolutely gutted.
i don't rate the guy personally (he prob had 2 good seasons at west ham (one in div 1?) and one v good year with us, but once his head was turned by utd he was a liability, and he's never really gotten out of that headspace since.
but for a league winning nominally defensive midfielder to sit on the bench while barry failed to resemble a professional footballer in each of his appearances........ ouch.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:25 (fourteen years ago)
x-post but like also...that team played some lovely football in quals....something went haywire after that and every report is going to say the whole root and branch less technique what wonderful foreign methods exist bullshit. they aren't as bad as they are playing, they dipped in the last 2 months. maybe too long a season or some shit? that's one of the few plausible reasons amongst the traditional bullshit that is being carted out today...they all looked fucking bollocksed for the entire tournament it has to be said...
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:26 (fourteen years ago)
and another aside...the mentality over here is insane. my coworker who knows his football inside out insisted to me all week england would win the wc...and mistook my disagreement for some sort of irish patriotism. there's no realism whatsoever in the national view of the side...i know in ireland we basically think "fuck it...lets see how we do" but there's got to be a happy medium between that and "we're going to win the wc"
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:28 (fourteen years ago)
p.s. names bandied around include wilshere (obv), connor wickham, jack rodwell, victor moses etc but I think as d-mac says the problem isn't so much with the personnel as the attitude and the deployment - the players have to play in a way that understands that not every passage of play will end in a goal, and understands that it's as much a percentage game as a game of *moments*. your percentages are massively increased if you retain possession, drag the opposition around and display some variety in the final third.
it's been said that our full-backs are the most continental of our players - I'd say that Gerrard, Lampard etc NEED a few more fast-dribbling manipulators of a ball alongside them - an Oezil, an Iniesta, hell even a Barrera. either that or someone who can press AND pass, and isn't gareth barry. rooney is predictable too - a striker who can link, outstrip, finish and overpower could be nice - shame kevin davies is so slow eh
the reason england played well in qualifying is that the wingers dovetailed beautifully with the CMs. playing four CMs was never going to work, especially if half of them were off-form and two were merely OK
perhaps Lennon and Walcott can become the players England desperately need - jury's out tho
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:34 (fourteen years ago)
rooney is predictable too - a striker who can link, outstrip, finish and overpower could be nice
heck i've just described peak Man U rooney. he needs to get that back. he needs to play alongside people with the imagination to create plays that suit rooney's finishing.
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:36 (fourteen years ago)
i'll take your word for it over there, on ilx it's been a happy medium i think. an unhappy medium, now, obvs.
i don't know that england played lovely stuff throughout qualification.
one thing i'd note about them- i don't know if this is capello methodology, but certainly the press/pundits/players are supportive of it- the english national team and those associated have a real mistrust of 'not knowing your best team' and particularly of not having a default formation. whether it's reflective of the (incorrect) attitude that 'our players are good enough to be put into their best positions and let the opposition worry about us' or whether (as i suspect, tbh) the players don't have the respect or the mentality for tactical awareness, any attempt by a manager to work on more than one basic formation, or to switch mid-game (or even between games, i think) is met with jeering disbelief- 'he don't know what he facking doing' kind of thing.
trap, for instance- i think in the last campaign ireland would have, for maybe the first time since i'd have taken an interest, toyed with different setups for different circumstances, and there seemed to be good buy-in from the players for that, and it got us places imo.
i don't know that capello could send (i won't say gerrard!) lampard out on to a pitch with a set of specific, role-related instructions and actually expect him to follow that. i don't know that any manager could do that with any one of the currently-established england players.
i think that's been an endemic attitude since sven. and i think that's what capello needs to address, whether it be with a wholesale change of personnel or otherwise, in the next couple of years if the FA are to get money's worth out of him.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:37 (fourteen years ago)
'i don't know' a lot, as if ye needed telling.
nah think that's otm...and hence the "oh jesus god barry is injured"...
i do think tho the utter shitness of england in the last 6/7 weeks, from friendlies to world cup, is just inexplicable. they really fucking bottled this world cup.
also btw has anyone called germany beating argentina yet?
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:41 (fourteen years ago)
me, repeatedly, for the simple reason that germany are a team, with a shape, and argentina are a goddamn shambles
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:42 (fourteen years ago)
i mean sure they beat mexico 3-1 but there was only one team on the pitch - there was a loose gaggle of awesome forwards doing their own thing in blue stripy shirts and some hellacious misfortune but didn't see another team, nah
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:43 (fourteen years ago)
i think that germany/argentina is v hard to call. i don't think germany have met a team of attacking quality yet.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:44 (fourteen years ago)
i do think tho the utter shitness of england in the last 6/7 weeks, from friendlies to world cup, is just inexplicable. they really fucking bottled this world cup
it's unknowable, a real fuckin headscratcher. and lols aside, it's a pisser to see so many talented individuals just fail to show up on such a huge stage. but lots of footballers play in the premier league, not just english ones. and OTOH, italy and france were, if anything, worse. strange times, internationally.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:46 (fourteen years ago)
btw does nobody disagree with my statement that England for better or worse need proper fucking wingers*, a central Gerrard (if Gerrard at all) and fluidity between midfield and attack
*wingers or attacking midfielders who are equally adept wide and central
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:47 (fourteen years ago)
which strikers have actually shown up this cup? tevez?
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:49 (fourteen years ago)
yes on first (johnson should have gone, Cole should have played more often and lennon should have been a lock for 100% gametime)
yes on second (ie central, if at all, and should certainly have played behind/alongside rooney against more defensive teams)
third- well yeah sure, all teams need that.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:49 (fourteen years ago)
forlan
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:50 (fourteen years ago)
xp tevez, villa, forlan, klose's been excellent, hernandez for mexico looks v good, i haven't seen/don't remember enough right now but there've been more
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:50 (fourteen years ago)
look at the top-scorers! suarez, vittek, higuain, klose and maybe a few others who knows o_O yes including forlan
oh wait yeah Adam Johnson!! he'll be a player
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:51 (fourteen years ago)
also let's not forget penalty-taker and USA-slayer ASAMOAH GYAN
also lol I meant to type Villa there but forgot
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:52 (fourteen years ago)
me, repeatedly, for the simple reason that germany are a team, with a shape, and argentina are a goddamn shamble
exactly...almost word for word what i think on this. argentina winning 3-1 at a canter tonight was weird, they played v v little footie. germany on the other hand look quite adept and classy.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:52 (fourteen years ago)
haha yeah mexico played ALL the football - some of it genuinely impressive - just need more of a final ball, something the Germans don't lack
the fact Germany is now the team I'm supporting has nothing to do with my judgement obv
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:54 (fourteen years ago)
germany look so assured and un-german that at this stage i don't hesitate to say they'll be eliminated soon, and in comical circumstances
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:55 (fourteen years ago)
mexico and chile went out of this tournament too early, both of them in games where they'd played the best football by some distance before ballsups changed the game
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:56 (fourteen years ago)
chile?
― iatee, Monday, 28 June 2010 01:56 (fourteen years ago)
higuain and suarez
― mizzell, Monday, 28 June 2010 01:56 (fourteen years ago)
i mean argentina is pretty much 4-1-5 and they allow SO very much space for the opposition in midfield. germany should take advantage. brazil would be goddamn merciless. even holland would have very, very much joy. there's only so much javier mascherano can do, even if he is an anfield superhuman
chile - brazil will be sad. chile will play so well ;_;
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:57 (fourteen years ago)
um who lost to spain the last night? i think it was chile but maybe not? it's late :?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:57 (fourteen years ago)
even holland would have very, very much joy
ha this is such an awkwardly terrible sentence
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:58 (fourteen years ago)
ah wait they went through i remember now :)
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:58 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, arg look weak in everything but the forwards
― mizzell, Monday, 28 June 2010 01:58 (fourteen years ago)
i think reports of argentina's imminent demise are much overstated tbh
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 01:59 (fourteen years ago)
maradona has a real team spark going on there, regardless of trifles like formation, defending or recognisable tactical awareness. teams will be swamped by their street urchins all the way to the trophy imo
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 02:00 (fourteen years ago)
hell maybe messi and tevez will score a brace of individual goals each in every game from now on and they'll manage to somehow not concede 4 at the other end
it will be kind of beautiful, mostly disgusting
messi looked like a 'cheat' option earlier. getting outclassed by mexico? pass it to wonderboy, he'll dribble round three of them and set them on the back foot!
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 02:02 (fourteen years ago)
this is also true...there's a weird feeling about arg, the way they won 3-1 with no real skills, and the way their momentum and perhaps other teams being afraid of them carries them through is ominous. that said, germany have the ability to beat them, for definite.
i want holland/germany/spain/u-r-gay to win. fuck brazil and to a lesser extent arg...
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 02:03 (fourteen years ago)
ha i enjoy the concept of having the world's best player as a cop out option.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 02:04 (fourteen years ago)
holland could be this year's spain, they might just have run out of disasters/excuses.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 02:05 (fourteen years ago)
i'm in the anyone but arg, bra, spain camp myself which is a shame as one of those is clearly going to win, and by one i mean brazil
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 02:06 (fourteen years ago)
anyone but one of the three best footballing sides in the world?
just putting it out there, tbh not into brazil this year myself, and spain aren't really any fun either
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 02:08 (fourteen years ago)
GO JAPAN
― max, Monday, 28 June 2010 02:08 (fourteen years ago)
argentina aren't a footballing side at all. spain have been shockingly dull and really quite crap - the portugal match ought to be A++++ though and i will root for portugal. brazil are very good but in a sort of inevitable and not particularly exciting way, plus they have loads of massive twats in their team
japan are brilliant - to beat paraguay and put up a BIG fight in the quarters would see them go home as heroes imo
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 02:10 (fourteen years ago)
can't imagine a set of circumstances where i'd ever root for portugal
dani alves- another guy that negates 50 of goodwill immediately for whatever team he represents.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 02:12 (fourteen years ago)
nor could I until now. two teams I don't like very much, a shitload of local resentment and chip-on-shoulder pride, contrasting styles, an underdog with teeth and the sense that they shouldn't be meeting yet...it's gonna be HUGE
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 02:14 (fourteen years ago)
nah root for spain, sometimes the little dog in a fight has a kicking coming to him imo
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 02:21 (fourteen years ago)
above all i'm voting for red cards, drama and the gnashing of iberian teeth
it COULD be one of the great games
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 02:22 (fourteen years ago)
ok richard keys, less of the conditional marketing
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 02:22 (fourteen years ago)
how the hell is rooney only 25...he looks like he's 40
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Monday, 28 June 2010 02:40 (fourteen years ago)
dodgy irish passport
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 02:41 (fourteen years ago)
Paul Hawkins, the managing director of the company Hawk-Eye which has developed goal-line technology, said FIFA should now rethink.
"If you look at a large set of close goal-line incidents, many of them only go over the line for a fraction of a second, and no human is able to fairly officiate these incidents regardless of where you are standing.
"Maybe in 1966 when broadcast technology was far inferior, it was interesting to debate if it was or was not a goal.
"Things have moved on since then, and the only debate following this incident will be, 'Why don't the governing bodies do something about this?'"
Paul Hawkins OTM. Nostalgia for RONG don't make a right
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 02:44 (fourteen years ago)
Not apropos of anything but I just read about the 1994 Shell Games qualifier btw Grenada & Barbados. O_o
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_Caribbean_Cup_1994
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 03:59 (fourteen years ago)
One of the great "we've-invented-some-clever-rules" fuckups, that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThpYsN-4p7w
― anatol_merklich, Monday, 28 June 2010 05:39 (fourteen years ago)
Any possible excuses for England players being tired or choking could equally be applied to players who don't seem to be tired or choking for other teams at this World Cup. The England team's inexplicable failure to turn up at the tournament has been inexplicably happening for the last 8 years.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 June 2010 07:06 (fourteen years ago)
Sorry I missed the post-mortem here last night.
Believe it or not, the punditry on the itv highlights show last night was first-class. I was too stunned to remember much of it, but Southgate was absolutely otm I thought in identifying systemic issues as the cause of the debacle, principally the split between the FA and the Premier League - whereas in Germany things are geared up to help the national side, such as playing together intensively as a group at young ages or training for long periods in preparation for tournaments, here it's more a bolt-on that players turn up to from time to time and everyone hopes it'll somehow click.
Basically, England fail because they don't work as hard at it as everyone else. But there's no way to put that right. Personally, I say keeping Capello to manage the national team, while hiring Hodgson to be the plenipotentate overlord of English football culture, would be the ideal remedy. Only that wouldn't work - the demands of the Premier League will always hobble the collective at the top level, and there's no way to get it back.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 07:21 (fourteen years ago)
Oops I hadn't finished.
Now Capello's tactical decisions, man-management and judgement of players has been seriously called into question, no doubt. But the sense remains that any manager who tries to impose a tactical vision onto the England team is battling against players and probably the FA from the get go.
Do we have great players? If you've never really shone at International level then maybe you're not quite as great as you/the fans would like to think. Club football just doesn't make the same demands as the international game.
It's not a question of saying "England should be better" but of asking "how can England perform better?" That means seriously looking at problems throughout the set-up and working on a plan to improve. Changing managers every 2 to 4 years and hoping the next one will shuffle the same deck to a satisfactory pattern isn't going to achieve anything imo. We have a fucked up attitude to our Stars - imagining that once they've been good for their club they will always be good, that form doesn't matter when you've got class, that we shd listen to their opinions about how to run a football team when the odds are not 1 in 20 of them will ever achieve anything in management. Belief and Team Spirit - well, maybe they're a thing but they're a pisspoor substitute for being organised and doing the job you're told to do on the pitch, for having a range of tactics and being able to switch to another plan when the first one doesn't work.
Where are the superstars in the South Korea or Japan teams? They've both played better, more incisive football than England have managed in this tournament. That's not just coaching, it's about the attitude of the players within the team. If England are gonna improve then maybe the manager needs to start selecting players who are mentally equipped to play for England.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 June 2010 07:23 (fourteen years ago)
Sounds exactly like the problems with the USA Men's Basketball team in the early 00s. A collection of stars, rather than a true team.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Monday, 28 June 2010 07:28 (fourteen years ago)
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Jun/Week4/15655740.jpg
Which Cole is this? Cheryl? Andy?
― James Mitchell, Monday, 28 June 2010 07:39 (fourteen years ago)
That ball is getting further back by the hour - I'm sure Shearer had it two yards behind the line "at least" by the end of yesterday's coverage
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 07:45 (fourteen years ago)
Yes.
Well said Mr Vague and Mr Klata!
― the pinefox, Monday, 28 June 2010 08:17 (fourteen years ago)
Wow at that back page. Photoshopping the position of the ball is a great way to undermine the seriousness of the actual error - as if it wasn't clear enough already!
― if, Monday, 28 June 2010 08:26 (fourteen years ago)
― the pinefox, 28 June 2010 08:17 (34 minutes ago)
oy we said all this hours ago
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 08:58 (fourteen years ago)
discrimination against ilxors who don't capitalise Must Stop
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 08:59 (fourteen years ago)
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/06/28/article-1290191-0A3B2379000005DC-804_634x428.jpg
So... who's hand is that?
― James Mitchell, Monday, 28 June 2010 09:30 (fourteen years ago)
not gerrard's legs, i think.
also, he appears to have signed for blackburn in 1997
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 09:36 (fourteen years ago)
At the risk of infuriating certain Liverpool fanatics on here, Steven Gerrard is past it, basically, isn't he? Think we might see some "retirals from international football" in the coming months.
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 09:40 (fourteen years ago)
Also, Ballack missing the World Cup = best thing to happen to German football in years?
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 09:42 (fourteen years ago)
Gerrard's done for England, unless he accepts a sub bench role, I think. He'd be better off retiring, and focusing on club level where he's vital and effective anyway.
James, Terry (surely?), Carragher (again), King (prob), Lampard (depending on Gerrard?), J Cole (28 and not established), Heskey (not actually a professional footballer at club level anymore tbh) all to be gone by the time euro qualifying comes around.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 09:46 (fourteen years ago)
Making Gerrard captain seemed to tie Capello's hands wrt leaving him on the pitch for one dreadful performance after another.
― sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Monday, 28 June 2010 09:52 (fourteen years ago)
Terry's only 29, I get a feeling he'll be around for a while yet - but not if Capello is the manager. My overriding impression of England v. Germany, was of England being old + slow + just looking, well, old-fashioned really
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 09:52 (fourteen years ago)
Lol/HartJohnson/Richards Dawson/Taylor? Rodwell? A Cole Huddlestone/BarryLennon/Walcott Lampard/? Johnson/? Rooney/? Crouch/Defoe/Cole?
Johnson/Richards Dawson/Taylor? Rodwell? A Cole
Huddlestone/Barry
Lennon/Walcott Lampard/? Johnson/?
Rooney/? Crouch/Defoe/Cole?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 09:52 (fourteen years ago)
Thought of the Villa players Young, Agbonlahor and yeah Milner since hitting 'submit', would give options there
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 09:53 (fourteen years ago)
Also Schweinsteiger was doing Michael Ballack better than Michael Ballack can manage these days
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 09:54 (fourteen years ago)
Southgate: "I'm running out of circles here" was the high point of that highlights show.
Argentina were a bit lucky but Mexico were bad at the back. The offside wouldn't have happened if the goalie didn't mess up, and the 2nd was a total loss of nerve. Argies didn't have to play a lot of footie to win that.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 June 2010 09:55 (fourteen years ago)
But...yes, can see them totally getting stuck.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 June 2010 09:59 (fourteen years ago)
At the risk of infuriating certain Liverpool fanatics on here
Speaking of which, LOL @ Alan Green fighting with various callers to 606 last night who had the temerity to criticise Stevie G. But, basically, LOL @ Alan Green.
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 10:02 (fourteen years ago)
xp can also totally see Argentina beating Germany, who really weren't that good, particulary from crosses.
― sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Monday, 28 June 2010 10:02 (fourteen years ago)
i've never had the pleasure of this green man, he sounds the type of prick that doesn't adequately make up for it by being entertaining
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 10:03 (fourteen years ago)
problem with alan green is he has the same IQ as ian wright, but a bigger vocabulary
― caek, Monday, 28 June 2010 10:04 (fourteen years ago)
i've never had the pleasure of this green man
He's one of that strange breed of intensely patriotic Irishman we have in the media over here - intensely patriotic about England that is
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 10:07 (fourteen years ago)
xp is that better or worse?
heh the footballing lord haw haw so
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 10:07 (fourteen years ago)
When Alan Green was batting away the xenophobic stuff he reminded me of Jeremy Kyle.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 June 2010 10:08 (fourteen years ago)
You'd love Green, darragh, you should make a point of seeking him out
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 10:08 (fourteen years ago)
Or the footballing Sir Terry Wogan
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 10:09 (fourteen years ago)
isn't he norn irish?
― caek, Monday, 28 June 2010 10:09 (fourteen years ago)
I don't really listen to lots of 5live: usually only for some US open tennis or the couple of golf majors that aren't on BBC TV.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 June 2010 10:10 (fourteen years ago)
(yes he is btw xp)
― caek, Monday, 28 June 2010 10:11 (fourteen years ago)
He's more of an Englishman than you'll ever be
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 10:14 (fourteen years ago)
Was gonna say, yeah, and I always assumed he liked oranges given his rabid pro-England stance.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 June 2010 10:20 (fourteen years ago)
Many an orange lover wouldn't be caught dead supporting England
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 10:25 (fourteen years ago)
Green "supporting" England in a professional capacity as a BBC employee is fine by me but his continuous referring to England as "we" or "us" is just unacceptable.
― Venga, Monday, 28 June 2010 10:26 (fourteen years ago)
"Green was censured by Ofcom in October 2004 after he made a comment deemed in breach of the regulator's Code on Standards live on-air about Manchester United's Cameroonian midfielder Eric Djemba-Djemba, implying he may be speaking pidgin English with the referee[9][10].He had previously described Manchester City's Chinese defender Sun Jihai as wearing shirt "Number 17 -- that'll be the Chicken Chow Mein, then" during a live radio broadcast.[11]In January 2007, Green was again in hot water on Merseyside over comments made on Five Live during the Everton v Reading match at Goodison Park. Film star Sylvester Stallone was paraded on the pitch, and Green quipped as to whether Stallone's limousine would still have wheels when he returned to it. This prompted an official complaint to the BBC by Liverpool City Council, upset at his stereotypical views about the city being a hotbed of car crime.[12]"
― sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Monday, 28 June 2010 10:26 (fourteen years ago)
wow what a loveable fuckhead- how has he been kept?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 10:30 (fourteen years ago)
5Live has a remit to employ Norn Irish concern trolls apparently, there's another dude called Stephen Nolan (?) who runs the "Speak Your Brains" late night weekend shows for drunk and lonely racists.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 June 2010 10:32 (fourteen years ago)
stephen nolan had a live tv show at one stage i think, he's hilarious, yes.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 10:33 (fourteen years ago)
In 2006 he was involved in a charity "boxing" match with Gerry Anderson in aid of Children in Need. Stephen Nolan was knocked down from a stray uppercut from Gerry Anderson.
Will pay cash for youtube clip
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 June 2010 10:37 (fourteen years ago)
Will pay cash for rematch
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 10:39 (fourteen years ago)
Knocked down by a 'stray' punch? How does that work then?
― Adge Cutler & the Özils (NickB), Monday, 28 June 2010 10:43 (fourteen years ago)
From the celeb boxing matches I've seen, it's 2 dudes with their eyes shut flailing their arms about.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 June 2010 10:44 (fourteen years ago)
Bit like England's centre halfs yesterday.
German goalkeeper for the England goal innit
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 10:46 (fourteen years ago)
Don't think Gerrard's past it at all. He had, by his standards, a shocker of a season. Season before he was awesome. Don't become a bad player over night etc.
― Chris, Monday, 28 June 2010 10:55 (fourteen years ago)
One season is not overnight. What was that about Capello not picking players who were off form? Not only does he pick them, he makes them captain!
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 10:59 (fourteen years ago)
I still don't think he's past it, but I see what you're saying, and I'd drop him and Lampard and a few others and start again.
― Chris, Monday, 28 June 2010 11:02 (fourteen years ago)
Reckon he should jump before he's pushed, prob. ditto for Lampard
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:05 (fourteen years ago)
I wasn't arguing that Gerrard was 'past it' in general, Chris, FWIW- but you wouldn't be surprised if he called time on England after this tournament? To the benefit of his Liverpool career, I'd say, also. He's got a couple of years yet. That's assuming, mind, that he stays at LFC.
Was thinking about Local Garda's attacks on my attacks on Gerrard, and his assertion that Gerrard was one of England's better performers throughout. In retrospect, while that may be true, I can't help thinking that that was at the expense of England's attack in general.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:08 (fourteen years ago)
Kinda sad LOL at the likelihood of Gerrard/Lampard question being solved by a double retirement. Successive managers failing to manage and a waste, essentially, of both intertnational careers.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:09 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah sorry, got what you saying darragh. I don't know. He's got some big decisions to make over the next few weeks.
― Chris, Monday, 28 June 2010 11:15 (fourteen years ago)
Euro 2012 Qualification needs to be built around one or the other of them, I think, if they both stay. The fudging can't continue, it's a bit of a running joke at this stage, with them both clipping 30.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:18 (fourteen years ago)
I think it's a bit of a cop out to blame the managers for their shortcomings as international footballers
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:18 (fourteen years ago)
Both players seem to lack a certain lack versatility
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:19 (fourteen years ago)
OK, so as a 6m a year manager, you............
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:23 (fourteen years ago)
...resign
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:24 (fourteen years ago)
.....?
'Oh lol, there goes Gerrard cutting inside again, lol another shot from him. Scamp!'
'Where's Lampard? You sure? Can't see him. Good lad, tho, great Latin conjugation d'joo know?
6m a year, England fans would be well entitled to expect him to have sorted that one out. and even if it was a case of regression on the big stage, he's in the hotseat to deal with that.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:25 (fourteen years ago)
Not a resigning issue, but one of many bad calls in the past 5-6 weeks
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:26 (fourteen years ago)
I do think Capello needs to take some of the blame. Particularly as his three most influential players were visibly sulking on the pitch like toddlers on the naughty step.
― sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:33 (fourteen years ago)
sorry, a LOT of the blame
Doesn't take the blame for sulky twenty/thirtysomethings
takes the blame for not hauling them off and physically assaulting them on the sidelines with psycho as backup.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:36 (fourteen years ago)
Torres looks fucked too, I blame Thatcher the Premiership
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:37 (fourteen years ago)
we don't know why they're sulking. it might be because of some legitimate grievance with capello, or it might be that they just refuse to take instructions well. i think this sketches out a fairly plausible scenario:
I suspect that, unlike the manager, the players saw all this work and discipline as something with a natural end-point. The prize on offer to them was qualification and a recovery of pride after the McClaren debacle, then, that achieved, a place in the squad. And, with a place in the squad achieved, the proper work could begin. The real business of the World Cup would get underway with a squad secure in the knowledge that they had won their coach’s esteem and trust.It didn’t work that way. The squad arrived in South Africa to find nothing had changed between themselves and their coach. In a sense, the prize wasn’t the World Cup, not at first: what they wanted was the trust of Fabio Capello. But it wasn’t granted them, nor will it be, that trust: the players understand this at an intuitive level. Despite qualifying so well, what they felt was meant to be punishment for the sins of the McClaren era grinds on, with no sign of an end.
It didn’t work that way. The squad arrived in South Africa to find nothing had changed between themselves and their coach. In a sense, the prize wasn’t the World Cup, not at first: what they wanted was the trust of Fabio Capello. But it wasn’t granted them, nor will it be, that trust: the players understand this at an intuitive level. Despite qualifying so well, what they felt was meant to be punishment for the sins of the McClaren era grinds on, with no sign of an end.
http://www.morethanmindgames.com/2010/06/19/england-v-algeria-not-fear-but-f-off/
― joe, Monday, 28 June 2010 11:38 (fourteen years ago)
torres has been struggling with being played while injured for quite some time
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:39 (fourteen years ago)
a fairly plausible scenario? that they wouldn't have to prove themselves if they qualified, it would all be like sven/mcclaren all over again?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:40 (fourteen years ago)
Capello absolutely not to blame. He basically went with the same squad of players that qualified so well.
Couple of calls but when you perform so badly its the players, esp John terry's pathetic attempt at mutiny (which Capello dealt with well enough). Now that is a man that has got to go.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 June 2010 11:40 (fourteen years ago)
while still reading that- dropping green was a good call.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:42 (fourteen years ago)
while still reading this
I say this with reluctance, but I think Capello is using the players as human shields for himself,
hahahahaha this is some fucked up fanboy slash bullshit
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:44 (fourteen years ago)
Isn't it his responsibility to ensure that they can play together, though? Isn't that as much his job as picking the players is?
And that mindgames article is pure twoddle.
― Upt0eleven, Monday, 28 June 2010 11:46 (fourteen years ago)
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:47 (fourteen years ago)
The players played together pretty well in qualifying, though. They just fell apart on the pitch at the tournament. Capello didn't do enough to address this, but if he's to be criticised for dropping Green for not doing his job because he has mates in the squad, then really the guy can't do anything right.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:48 (fourteen years ago)
Removing the captaincy from Terry seems to have stirred up some trouble
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:49 (fourteen years ago)
I realise I may have somewhat contradicted myself int hat post.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL xxpost
― Upt0eleven, Monday, 28 June 2010 11:49 (fourteen years ago)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_iXjepUtNEfA/S8xK9VgwOXI/AAAAAAAACeQ/5_dW8Vx4tz0/s1600/Terry-Venables-001.jpg
― sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:50 (fourteen years ago)
OK, I got <3 for arry and he's managed us to damn-near perfection (Keane and Assou Ekotto aside), but this fucking quote:
"I'm not talking about a Scottish manager or an Irish manager, I'm talking about an English manager because this is where we're from, this is our country.
"We should be able to produce someone who can manage the England football team and let's be honest, they can't do any worse than what they've [Eriksson and Capello] done."
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:52 (fourteen years ago)
LIKE NOT QUALIFYING IN THE FIRST PLACE HUH ARRY HUH? WTF
who wouldn't want to manager England?
― Adge Cutler & the Özils (NickB), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:53 (fourteen years ago)
FFS i'm going to lunch. if anyone but klinnsman is our new manager by the time i get back i'll be quite put out
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:53 (fourteen years ago)
re: the mtmg post, i was only really endorsing the bit i quoted, which is the only attempt i've seen to try and explain the difference in attitude between qualifying and the games we've just seen. it's easy to say capello didn't do enough to address that collapse, but you've got to understand why it happened first. i'm not sure anyone does.
― joe, Monday, 28 June 2010 11:53 (fourteen years ago)
'Awwy appealing directly to the Cockney Wanker constituency there
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:54 (fourteen years ago)
"Isn't it his responsibility to ensure that they can play together, though? Isn't that as much his job as picking the players is?"
They were playing well enough in qualifying.
Not sure how much more Capello could have done when the guys he sends out on the pitch can't produce anything to beat Algeria, and then have the nerve to leak complaints about an authoritarian style to the media.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 June 2010 11:54 (fourteen years ago)
match report on FIFA.com:
'Lampard's shot from the edge of the box struck the underside of the crossbar and bounced down, with the referee ruling the ball had not crossed the goalline.'
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:55 (fourteen years ago)
no fair enough joe, i doubt anyone could fully endorse that piece, but even the quote you provided smacks of a sense of entitlement that capello would have been 100% correct in not gratifying with acknowedgement
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:56 (fourteen years ago)
xp- yeah, any reports of player complaints about capello's style (which has changed radically in the past 5 weeks? i think not) is to ignore that england's best players failed to perform at 50% when measured over four games, three against reasonably to very beatable opposition.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 11:58 (fourteen years ago)
manager insisting on a tie at supper don't do that to you
"I'm talking about an English manager because this is where we're from, this is our country"
And you have so many wonderful and successful managers to choose from
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2010 12:00 (fourteen years ago)
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can't stand him, but Terry's the one and only "natural leader" in the England team. think there's some merit in speculating that this is near the root of the problems.
― sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Monday, 28 June 2010 12:03 (fourteen years ago)
I'm sure the media would love 'arry to be the new manager, give them a good excuse to investigate his tax records and to provide a service in 'the public interest'.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 June 2010 12:03 (fourteen years ago)
"think there's some merit in speculating that this is near the root of the problems."
Oh do you now...
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 June 2010 12:05 (fourteen years ago)
what's 'Arry on aboot, just yesterday he was saying how big a bag o baws this 'WE NEED AN ENGLISH MANAGER' stuff is. Not saying that I wouldn't savour a Phil Brown reign, like.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Monday, 28 June 2010 12:08 (fourteen years ago)
and actually, now that I remember, further to that he said that Capello was still the man for the job. Did he just today get offered a pardon on the condition of winning the 2014 World Cup or what?
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Monday, 28 June 2010 12:13 (fourteen years ago)
xxp Oh, yes, I do...
― sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Monday, 28 June 2010 12:14 (fourteen years ago)
england pointing at terry as a 'natural leader' is more likely to be the root cause of their problems.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 12:16 (fourteen years ago)
he's a natural cunt, is what he is.
true, true, but I'd rather see Terry's cunt-captaincy than whatever it was that Gerrard was doing.
― sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Monday, 28 June 2010 12:19 (fourteen years ago)
That FIFA match report xps - and the Argentina one doesn't even mention the possibility that Tevez may have been offside.
I take some comfort from the fact that surely nobody gets their info from fifa.com
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 12:24 (fourteen years ago)
they've apparently cut the offending lampard shot from their video highlights as well.
― joe, Monday, 28 June 2010 12:29 (fourteen years ago)
I blame Sir Dave Richards.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 28 June 2010 12:38 (fourteen years ago)
ah that's no fuckin carry-on from FIFA, that's nonsense
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 12:45 (fourteen years ago)
Goodness me people actually believe all of this Terry 'natural leader' stuff?! And here I was thinking he suffered from delusions of grandeur.
Eng fans in getting what they deserve.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 June 2010 12:58 (fourteen years ago)
england's only other natural leader once king was injured didn't get a kick iirc
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 13:02 (fourteen years ago)
crouch?
― caek, Monday, 28 June 2010 13:20 (fourteen years ago)
nah big brick-thick mick dawson
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 13:21 (fourteen years ago)
big brick-thick mick dawsonyour name is similar to dawkinsbut you are living proof of a benevolent God's sonso you are a much better person
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 13:23 (fourteen years ago)
good work
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 13:26 (fourteen years ago)
everything I do, I do it for you
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 13:27 (fourteen years ago)
england post-mortem thread plz
― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Monday, 28 June 2010 13:28 (fourteen years ago)
Quite. Can we talk about today's games now?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 June 2010 13:29 (fourteen years ago)
holland will win at a canter, brazil will stomp mercilessly on pretty chilean passing patterns
ok done can spain-portugal happen ALREADY please
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 13:34 (fourteen years ago)
(am also looking forward to japan - paraguay WAY more than either of today's games)
To those abjuring prompt creationsee england's midfield formationand though they made no great escapesat least they didn't come from apes
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 13:34 (fourteen years ago)
O Ricky D, to gaze uponOur second goal, so cruelly toreFrom grasp, you'd preach your foolish conAnd blatant Act Of God ignore?
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 13:46 (fourteen years ago)
no need for apologyjust introduce technologya robot to hit terry with something bluntbecause he is a cunt
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Monday, 28 June 2010 13:51 (fourteen years ago)
ref's assistant, genes renounceand when your gaze the line envelopesnotwithstanding gap, nor bouncethen let us see just what develops
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 13:51 (fourteen years ago)
tragedy, thy name is gerrardto see that once where scholesy scamperednow leadenfooted mire is mirroredin stevie g, and lampard
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 13:53 (fourteen years ago)
the england team faffingnow the world is laughinglike the dog in the Nintendo game 'Duck Hunt'John Terry is a cunt
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Monday, 28 June 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago)
with balance missing on the leftthe whole team's listing leewardand central standing, lone, bereftjohn terry is a c-word
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 13:58 (fourteen years ago)
Enough! We turn our mortal mindsTo Holland and the Slovaks' linesIn battle drenched, on glory drunkWhich side by God's deft hand is sunk?
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:01 (fourteen years ago)
fuck rhyming dutch names tbph
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago)
diamond evolves, produces Barryadapted form to hound and harryyet leaves defence without protectionand so disproves nat'ral selection
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago)
hail to ye, Robin van Persie,with the puny Slovaks at your mercy,and lest we forget, Joris Mathijsen,oh shit oh shit, Joris Mathijsen.
god bless this 1-11 lineup from the Dutch, this giving your strikers number 3 and shit like that distresses me.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:05 (fourteen years ago)
hail to ye, Robin van Persie,with the puny Slovaks at your mercy,and lest we forget, Joris Mathijsen,oh shit oh shit, Joris Mathijsen.with whom they are ineptly dicing
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago)
somewhat better, yes.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago)
whose poise I find oddly enticing
martin skrtelis not the pokémon turtlehe is up against dirk kuytjohn terry is a cuyt.
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:09 (fourteen years ago)
the cake to holland's icing
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:09 (fourteen years ago)
Slovakia, tho' you lack herea certain je ne sais quoi kiaIts fair to say i'll back'ya10/1? spectacyia!
― sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago)
kuyt's a-flying for the dutchhonda driving on the japsgerrard, england, not so much;john terry eats his mother's flaps
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:11 (fourteen years ago)
i wholeheartedly apologise for that btw
there are riversin SlovakiaHolland has canalsTerry's a cunal.
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:12 (fourteen years ago)
It's my heart's desireTo see John Terry die in a fire
― James Mitchell, Monday, 28 June 2010 14:14 (fourteen years ago)
All he deserves, nothing more to be said.
Sumptious pass immaculate finish
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago)
Robben!
― I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago)
It's as if they've never seen any of Robben's goals
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago)
*sumptuous*
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:18 (fourteen years ago)
That ball by Sneijder was just sublime.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago)
The Dutch have been marvelously functional so far this World Cup.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:20 (fourteen years ago)
That ball definitely crossed the lineRobben finish just sublimeSneijd-rule pass, more than just a puntJohn Terry is a cunt
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago)
Each time Honda scoreswe bring out the car metaphorsSlovakia may be defiantBut the Dutch are Robben reliant
― zappi, Monday, 28 June 2010 14:23 (fourteen years ago)
I like "Sneijd rule pass" v much. Applause.xp
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:23 (fourteen years ago)
yes, this meme is coming along nicely
robben reliant :D
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:28 (fourteen years ago)
Kuyt standing
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 14:28 (fourteen years ago)
When are the Dutch going to start with this ugly football everyone keeps telling us about?
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 14:29 (fourteen years ago)
kuyt
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:30 (fourteen years ago)
robben reliant was outstanding
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago)
heard the robben reliant bit on the guardian podcast the other day.
― mizzell, Monday, 28 June 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago)
We just got a 'robben reliant' mention with the ESPN coverage.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 June 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago)
let us know when they call terry a cunt pls
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
A change of flag, a new ensignDeclares the breaching of the lineAnd lo! This Bible, bane of doubtReveals the breach 'twixt man and Kuyt
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:42 (fourteen years ago)
fat franks jsut can't get with the patternnot even with his A in latinAmidst the roar of linesman callsjohn terry, wot a cuntyballs
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
eh i don't suppose some kind soul could post the lineups? i'm struggling here for new material.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:47 (fourteen years ago)
While Holy God our Lord and TeacherMakes an Earth for man to featureAtheist makes foul DuricaNow in full: Dorito Pizza
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:49 (fourteen years ago)
also just go to the BBC website you lazy tit
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:50 (fourteen years ago)
yeah i just did that (don't like it coming up at work too much tbh), and i reiterate:
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago)
Fouling de Jong, Kucka was bookedTheir gooses appear to be cookedVan Bommel sends over a cross from the right John Terry is not only a cunt, he's a shite
― James Mitchell, Monday, 28 June 2010 14:55 (fourteen years ago)
cappelo's reign comes to an endcouldn't find the magic blendand now the search for his successorjohn terry is a child mo- aw cmon people pls
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago)
this thread was fun but i cant get with the verse... maybe we can start a prose world cup thread or something?
― max, Monday, 28 June 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago)
do it imo
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:02 (fourteen years ago)
Comic quatrain irks a YankMatthew Upson is a plankAt least he seems a pleasant guyUnlike his partner, Cuntify
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:04 (fourteen years ago)
Man, what a boring game. These mediocre Dutch are one of the big favourites, are they? Well well well.
― StanM, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:05 (fourteen years ago)
Slogging under F Capello That Terry seems a rotten fellowFinal minute blocks aside,Cuntosity personified
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:08 (fourteen years ago)
I'm not watching the gamebut Klaas-Jan Huntelaarsounds near enough the same as John-Terry Cuntelaar
― sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago)
Saved it with his face! O MuchaNow you're even less a lookerBut stay strong! Just see a hookerAfter fleeing this pressure-cooker
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago)
Rumour has it, I've been told,Capello is an awful scold,(And even though it's just a maybe)I heard John Terry ate a baby
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:12 (fourteen years ago)
They were going to ask John Harkes to talk about his scandalous ways but then they realized that might not be the best person to do so.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:12 (fourteen years ago)
but the sentiment was there, ned, right? you could hear it left unsaid
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago)
A lot of the announcers are UK folks so I'm sure there was plenty of nuance.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:14 (fourteen years ago)
Anyway, glad I saw the one goal for this game so far but StanM is kinda right here...
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago)
Ned reporting terry snarksfrom serial womaniser harkesthough eloquently left unsaidaimed clearly at his cunty head
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago)
Indeed.
Meanwhile, over on De Subjectivisten, posts like this:
Wat zien die Slowaken eruit! Het lijkt wel De Multiculturele Samenleving tegen Het Postmodern Nazism.― Olaf K., Monday, June 28, 2010 7:24 AM (52 minutes ago)
― Olaf K., Monday, June 28, 2010 7:24 AM (52 minutes ago)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:19 (fourteen years ago)
2 years ago I'd have called you a TerryFor calling Robben better than Ri-bieryHow wrong I've been proved I'm forced to confessArjen To Franck as Rooney to Mess-ee
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago)
Some actual chances there for Slovakia.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago)
I swear for the Klose goal that Terry was just having a word in Barry's ear about how much he fancied Barry's wife.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago)
Vittek should be ashamed.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
yeah srsly call yrself an international striker
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, he's as shite as Rooney.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
forget idea to fit technology to goaljust remove vittek from the showas shite as rooney, the ugly runtjohn terry is a cunt
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago)
Vittek, hang your head in woeOnly twenty mins to goFree to shoot - a fine tableauAnd yet of you the Dutch will crow
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:29 (fourteen years ago)
Dutch defence caught legs-akimbovittek missed a sitterwayne bridge had finished with a bimboterry made love to her in the naughty place
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
Nicely done Dirk.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago)
And...game over.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago)
Best celebration everKuyt is a worthy heaverLook how he heaved SneijderUpon his hefty shoulder
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:40 (fourteen years ago)
thats what happens when you argue with the ref.
― Zeno, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:40 (fourteen years ago)
Meh.
Van Persie, who already looked angry at his coach when he was replaced, was the only one on the Dutch bench who remained sitting down when this goal was scored, the Belgian commentator said.
― StanM, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago)
(forget the defense)xpost
― Zeno, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago)
WTF? There's a wireless button contraption in the linemen's flag sticks to alert the referee!? What devilish technologyckal witchcraft did you allow now, FIFA? 4 shame!
― StanM, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago)
not to mention ye devilish horseless carriage that transports Blatter from junket to junket
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
Dutch are adamantKuyt plays clever in the boxDirk wears orange sox
― zappi, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
― zappi, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:23 (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD also :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD at NV's Matt Damon session.
So this thread went fucking mental and huge in the past 2 days huh?
Thoughts on USA-Ghana:
When did Gyan leave Udinese? And how the hell do Udinese constantly under-perform with such a great squad? See also: Sanchez for chile making me think this. They truly are the Steve Bruce's Wigan of Serie A. Poor USA I guess but 2nd round about right.
Thoughts on England-Germany.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
Blaming Capello is stupid as fuck. He made selection problems, sure. His reliance on SWP as his supersub being the biggest head-slapper, as well as the considerably stupid idea that Upson is anywhere close to being worth taking. But he was not in any way at fault for what has happened in the past two weeks.
Gerrard has played on the left before, and performed at a high level! And he's made a career of turning it on for big matches, so for Capello to trust him isn't absurd. It also supposedly 'cured' the Lampard-Gerrard question. But even if he was important for two of our three goals, he just didn't seem to care about the manager's tactics. How many times was he actually in position for the whole tournament? How many times was Ashley Cole left alone against two or three men? As much as the second goal was a head slap trademark Upson moment, he was trying to give Cole some much needed support he wasn't getting from Gerrard. Either he left too much space in the middle or Cole would be taken out of the game. It's a problem Arsenal often see with Arshavin, who just doesn't seem to care about defending and the natural attack minded full back Clichy, just like Cole, is left stranded.
Lampard didn't exist and should be dropped. Plucky box-to-box midfielders seem woefully inadequate these days compared to smart, calm playmakers. You can see why he wanted to take Scholes, and Wilshere and Huddlestone should be working hard to prove they deserve that chance next season. Lampard's runs were straight, like the England of the 1800s. Drogba is so awkward to pick up that he can get away with it for Chelsea but he is too easy to mark for England.
Rooney looked ill. But when he was fit last season he didn't need a player next to him, for him, and even looked worse when there was one. Heskey didn't have a terrible competition but that was a shirt wasted, a position that could have given us more guile in midfield.
Lennon, Milner, Cole, SWP, Gerrard, none of them had confidence to beat their man like a certain person would have.
Barry was unfit and played in a position his attributes aren't suited for. Ok, maybe this is something Capello can be blamed for. Anyone other than the papers/tv think he was really that important?
And on to the worst player: John fucking Terry. So he fucks up the whole pre-tournament prep but that can be got over. He called out the manager to play his frankly average mate Joe, causing even more shit to unneccessarily deal with when they should have been sorting their shit out. (What did Cole provide to Chelsea last season that made him worthy of starting? Everytime I saw him start he was the first player subbed iirc.) But no, what really is the problem is with his performances. King was picking up Altidore, the full backs were keeping the formation tight, Gerrard was obviously getting skinned by Dempsey and... Terry is just stood around like a pleb when he should have gone to help him. Ok ok robert green worst shit perpetrated since the nazis or whatever but time and again in those three games, Terry spent his time looking bored instead of defending. And then v. Germany it came back to bite him on his fucking testicles. Hansen was going 'oh but it is so hard for a centre half to play centre half on the different side of the pitch! i mean he has to look at the right backs position instead of the left back!'. I call bullshit. I mean wtf is that shit? The amount of time he'd just aimlessly walked out of position no matter what side of the pitch he was on, Upson was always gonna be fucked. Teams all over the world have centre halves occasionally play 10 yards to the left/right of where they usually play, and yet the premiership winning defender can't do it? Could you fucking imagine them saying 'oh well no wonder Rooney didn't perform, Heskey was on the left of him instead of the right?' The supposed best english defender gets messed up by something a three year old could understand.
Can't wait to see Germany play up for a game.
And to lastly repeat: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
Thoughts on Mexico v. Argentina:
Argentina looked shit tbh. 'Ummm go out there and be supremely talented'. Defense looks shit even w/out JONAS. Should get roundly beaten by Germany, one hopes, unless Messi just... plays like himself. Tevez goal was a beaut, obv, although Gomes would have saved it.
Fuck a Sepp Blatter btw.
Holland v. Slovakia:
Slovakia look p decent with a young squad. Bet Chelsea wish they didn't sell Stoch, I think he could prove a player. Also a shame Weiss will get Chelsea'd out of making a name for himself at Citeh.
Holland look terrific, mebbe a bit boring. Again, can't wait to see them play up.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
penalty :)
hilariously so
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
Okay what is with this weird ending.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
Kick, hugs, end!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
exactly my thoughts
― Zeno, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
The least celebrated goal ever.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
AL S, of Newcastle management fame: "Can the Dutch win the World Cup? No."
So now you know who to bet on.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
Swing for him, Clarence
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
jeez a hoy hoy get broadband son, you can type all that in little goes and post it as you go that way
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago)
ok, the result is the only thing that counts, but meh again.
― StanM, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago)
the dutch grinding through would make me wary if i were a team due to meet them later on tbh
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago)
What you said. I think the Dutch can actually win the whole thing.
― Kiitën (admrl), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago)
Is the BBC punditry improving? Shearer and Dixon talking a remarkable amount of sense
― Number None, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago)
Dirk Kuyt's FACE irritates me. He looks like the classic "smelly kid" from school.
― Kiitën (admrl), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago)
I'd love Holland to do this and they're solid and all - but they make me think 'less good brazil', which can't be the way to beat brazil
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago)
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:52 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I made the stuuuuuuuuuuuuuupid idea to read the thread before posting.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago)
xp it really could be, if brazil have an off day.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago)
Btw did anyone notice how many minutes were added in the first half? Needed for tipping-comp tiebreaker...
― anatol_merklich, Monday, 28 June 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago)
also i apologise ronan for ever saying anything bad ever about gerrard. i do think the only way forward for him though is to join alonso again in madrid.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago)
he'll be along in a minute, now. it's like the 'candyman' trick with the mirrors.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago)
watching the game with the chilean babes from work and their babe friends in a englischergarten beer garden in 30 degree heat. thinking of getting slightly loaded and talking to girls. going to be dope.
― caek, Monday, 28 June 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago)
caek living the high life :)
also noticed lj mention wilshere as the possible answer, made me smile.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago)
aw caek mayne that sounds like a much better plan than what i've got
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago)
what is your plan does it involve beer?
― caek, Monday, 28 June 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago)
I'm going to miss the next game. I gotta get paid =(
― Cool Fetus (admrl), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago)
chilean babes is the icing on the cake, but beer is the core of the monday night experience for me
according to the espn text updates, 2 minutes
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago)
man it's 11 AM here, working, no babes or beer :(
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago)
lol @ fifa dude having a rafa-esque catchphrase about not talking about referees
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago)
8.30pm in june is really good vibes. munich south enough to be hot hot hot, but north enough to be light until like 10.30 atm.
― caek, Monday, 28 June 2010 16:07 (fourteen years ago)
― caek, 28 June 2010 16:04 (4 minutes ago)
it involves running 10k in the rain btwn now and kickoff, no beer.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago)
9AM here, overcast, quiet. About as un- "World Cup" as you can get
― Cool Fetus (admrl), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago)
enjoying this so much more now england are out
― caek, Monday, 28 June 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago)
darragh yr plan is foolish
i have it as a plan, it's not 'my plan'. subtle differenc ebth
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago)
― Cool Fetus (admrl), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:09 (56 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
depends where it is. remember watching england-nigeria in a maths lesson in 2002, was p special world cup moment for me
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago)
Here's to Germ'ny versus Holland Here's to Dutch and Deutsch unleavenedPure the clash of style and steelGrim the fate for God to seal
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:12 (fourteen years ago)
favourite world cup experience ever: germany - saudi arabia in a paddling pool in someone's back garden at lol oxford. game finished around 2pm iirc and we carried on drinking all day. we truly were a golden generation.
― caek, Monday, 28 June 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago)
if you ever have a chance to be an undergraduate in a non-examined year during a world cup then i recommend it v. highly
england vs trinidad & tobago in amsterdam the day i got my exam results was p excellent. japorea i was working nights so tbh i can't remember f-all except how much i hate ian harte, and obv ro keanes 93 minute goal v germans was grate
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago)
the germans march forever onwith play most un-teutonicthey might face up to kuyt anond'you think he's got bubonic?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago)
obv ro keanes 93 minute goal v germans was grate
That was so awesome.
― I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago)
watching the italy '90 ireland-romania penalty shootout in the kitchen with my mother and uncle. remember my (usually) reserved uncle kissing the tv screen after o'leary's winning peno
― Michael B, Monday, 28 June 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago)
last point on yesterday: have to say that the death of money/silly season looks to be the best thing to happen for english football. teams are surely going to have to look at how everton have arguably been overperforming these past few years has been funded by rooney (academy kid) and lescott (bought young and relatively unknown, turned in to a player way above his abilities), as well keeping in faith in hibbert, osman and a couple others while their next team looks like it'll be made by cracking youngsters (rodwell, gosling [from plymouth], baxter etc.)
Spurs p similar and depending on their coach have done v well with this formula. Hope this formula starts to come in all over the shop and foreigners only bought when they actually add something to the team (look at wigan for example, no-one disputes why valencia, rodellega, palacios etc. were bought but do west ham need mccarthy and mido to keep out cole, nouble, hines and sears? really? fatty benni and fatty mido really going to offer you more than potentially exciting english youngsters?)
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago)
Verily was I thus foundIn sweet '06, with sunshine crownedAnd yet '08, O finer gownedWith sweeter maiden did resound
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago)
Need to take the national team seriously is the answer here xp. Ultimately you only need eleven good individuals and England can usually muster nearly that many. But getting them to play as a team seems to get next to no thought at all - a month and a few weekends every four years. How many days have this German generation spent together since they were kids? I bet it dwarfs our lot.
I'd love to see these youngsters you mention taken aside every other Monday to be coached as a group. Have Hodgson overseeing the set up. Get former top players to join in too, take their coaching badges that way and turn it into a boot room.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago)
Received in the mail just now from geopolitical/global security wonks Stratfor:
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GermanyGermany’s resounding 4-1 victory over England on Sunday has given other nations competing at the World Cup notice that Die Mannschaft (“The Team”) is back in the elite of world football. This comes after most commentators -- including German -- wrote off the team as too young and inexperienced to compete with the football heavyweights in 2010.Geopolitical parallels are clear. Germany in 2010 is a country emerging from 45 years of Cold War -- when it served as the chess board upon which the US and USSR battled -- and another 10 years of attempts to integrate 16 million East Germans into a re-unified Germany. The years when external forces did not permit Germany to have a foreign policy, or it was too preoccupied internally to contemplate one, are over. Berlin is ready to take the reigns of the EU, setting the agenda for restructuring of rules that govern the Eurozone and coordinating a new foreign policy towards Russia. This comes as a minor surprise to the rest of Europe, which has grown accustomed to a relatively compliant Germany that signs checks redistributing its wealth to the peripheral countries with little more than a bitte.The German football team is also a parallel for a modern German society, with around half of the players on the team either foreign-born or of foreign descent. The two best players on the team are of mixed German-Polish and Turkish origin, reflecting the fact that in the past 60 years Germany has become a country of immigration whether it is willing to truly accept that reality or not. With German demographics pointing towards an aging society, the question is whether Germans will be willing to accept a similar level of dependence on foreigners and ethnic minorities in Germany's society as is already practiced in the football team. In order to maintain its economic and political leadership of Europe, Germany may be forced to.-ItalyDefending World Cup Champion Italy posted a surprising early exit from the World Cup when it lost to Slovakia -- and tied New Zealand -- in the group stages. Italian media has portrayed the early exit as a national humiliation. Italy joins 1998 World Cup Champion France and 2004 European Champion Greece as World Cup failures in 2010. The loser of the Spain-Portugal match on Tuesday will soon join them.Lack of success for the Mediterranean football heavyweights at the World Cup thus far parallels the economic problems facing the Club Med (Greece, Portugal, Spain and Italy) countries. What began as a Greek sovereign debt crisis has now firmly migrated to Portugal and Spain, accompanied by a high level of investor skepticism about Madrid's fiscal soundness. Despite the fact that Spain’s crisis is nowhere near that of Greece, markets are continuing to punish the Club Med, and the very future of the Eurozone is up for debate. Fear in Europe is that the problems of Spain could migrate to Italy and then perhaps even to France, which would be the end of Eurozone and possibly the EU.But just as not all is lost for Mediterranean countries at the World Cup -- Spain remains one of the favorites -- so too not all is lost for the Club Med and the Eurozone. Led by Germany, the Eurozone has taken extraordinary steps to face down the crisis, bailing out Greece with a 110 billion euro loan and setting up a new financial aid mechanism in the amount of 440 billion euro to prop up any other faltering economies. Furthermore, the European Central Bank has taken an unprecedented step in purchasing government debt directly, showing a degree of political flexibility previously not seen by investors. But the cost of the interventions represents a definitive power shift from Paris to Berlin, with the Mediterranean countries now literally at Germany's mercy.Nothing could be a better metaphor for this shift than the success of Northern Europe, led by Germany and the Netherlands, at the World Cup, and the inability of Italy and France to even advance past the group stage.
Germany’s resounding 4-1 victory over England on Sunday has given other nations competing at the World Cup notice that Die Mannschaft (“The Team”) is back in the elite of world football. This comes after most commentators -- including German -- wrote off the team as too young and inexperienced to compete with the football heavyweights in 2010.
Geopolitical parallels are clear. Germany in 2010 is a country emerging from 45 years of Cold War -- when it served as the chess board upon which the US and USSR battled -- and another 10 years of attempts to integrate 16 million East Germans into a re-unified Germany. The years when external forces did not permit Germany to have a foreign policy, or it was too preoccupied internally to contemplate one, are over. Berlin is ready to take the reigns of the EU, setting the agenda for restructuring of rules that govern the Eurozone and coordinating a new foreign policy towards Russia. This comes as a minor surprise to the rest of Europe, which has grown accustomed to a relatively compliant Germany that signs checks redistributing its wealth to the peripheral countries with little more than a bitte.
The German football team is also a parallel for a modern German society, with around half of the players on the team either foreign-born or of foreign descent. The two best players on the team are of mixed German-Polish and Turkish origin, reflecting the fact that in the past 60 years Germany has become a country of immigration whether it is willing to truly accept that reality or not. With German demographics pointing towards an aging society, the question is whether Germans will be willing to accept a similar level of dependence on foreigners and ethnic minorities in Germany's society as is already practiced in the football team. In order to maintain its economic and political leadership of Europe, Germany may be forced to.
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Italy
Defending World Cup Champion Italy posted a surprising early exit from the World Cup when it lost to Slovakia -- and tied New Zealand -- in the group stages. Italian media has portrayed the early exit as a national humiliation. Italy joins 1998 World Cup Champion France and 2004 European Champion Greece as World Cup failures in 2010. The loser of the Spain-Portugal match on Tuesday will soon join them.
Lack of success for the Mediterranean football heavyweights at the World Cup thus far parallels the economic problems facing the Club Med (Greece, Portugal, Spain and Italy) countries. What began as a Greek sovereign debt crisis has now firmly migrated to Portugal and Spain, accompanied by a high level of investor skepticism about Madrid's fiscal soundness. Despite the fact that Spain’s crisis is nowhere near that of Greece, markets are continuing to punish the Club Med, and the very future of the Eurozone is up for debate. Fear in Europe is that the problems of Spain could migrate to Italy and then perhaps even to France, which would be the end of Eurozone and possibly the EU.
But just as not all is lost for Mediterranean countries at the World Cup -- Spain remains one of the favorites -- so too not all is lost for the Club Med and the Eurozone. Led by Germany, the Eurozone has taken extraordinary steps to face down the crisis, bailing out Greece with a 110 billion euro loan and setting up a new financial aid mechanism in the amount of 440 billion euro to prop up any other faltering economies. Furthermore, the European Central Bank has taken an unprecedented step in purchasing government debt directly, showing a degree of political flexibility previously not seen by investors. But the cost of the interventions represents a definitive power shift from Paris to Berlin, with the Mediterranean countries now literally at Germany's mercy.
Nothing could be a better metaphor for this shift than the success of Northern Europe, led by Germany and the Netherlands, at the World Cup, and the inability of Italy and France to even advance past the group stage.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 June 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago)
teach them basic football strategy such as passing
xpost
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago)
Okay Ned - let's hear how they crowbar the world cup into their normal analyses of Japan and, say, China
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago)
so are they saying germany winning 4-1 was a good or bad thing?
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago)
it's kind of like hey look this team is awesome! (argggh it's full of foreigners!!!)
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago)
I missed the game (and indeed all football for the five days or so) due to being at Glastonbury. Were England as shit as I've been led to believe?
The problem to me seems to be that English football just does not nurture young talent very well, very often. English players, this generation especially, had a lot of raw talent but very rarely have the movement off the ball, the first touch, the technique. It's just not hard-wired into them when they're young - the exception seems to be the Man United kids of the 90s. And what do you know, Beckham and Scholes and even Nicky Butt performed much better in international tournaments than Gerrard and Lampard ever had.
Best case scenario is that both Gerrard and Lampard retire from international football and let the next manager shape a new midfield. You look at the England midfield and you look at genuine world class midfields like Spain, Brazil, Argentina and the gulf is massive. These guys can move the ball around all over the pitch and seem to know exactly where their team mates will be. Lampard is not a world class footballer - he can look like one at Chelsea because he's surrounded by world class players than he knows inside out, he wouldn't be that good in any other team. Gerrard's been a clunker for a year or more now, and he's not a team player at all, even for Liverpool he just does his own thing, and his top class performances usually seemed to be against teams near the bottom of the league.
The quality of the Premiership is no where near as good as everyone says it is, and that hype has amplified good quality English league players into supposed world beaters and time and time again that has been proved to be bollocks time and time again. English football needs root and branch reform, and I bet that won't happen any time soon.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:08 (fourteen years ago)
while you were out we also discussed whether or not you look like rob from catherine wheel and landon donovan
― (roxymuzak) ((((d-.-b)))) (roxymuzak), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:13 (fourteen years ago)
not forgetting amit mishra
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago)
In fact, we assumed you had gone to South Africa to act as a last minute substitute for Donovan should the need arise.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 June 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago)
Enagland weren't as aimlessly woeful as they were against Algeria, in fact we had more possession than the Germans and more shots on goal, too. Germany's fourth and fifth goals came from lightening quick counter attacks while we were trying, fruitlessly, to get back into the game.
But having said that, our defence was absolutely horrific; Terry was on the wrong side of the centre and his positional sense evaporated, and Upson was useless. A bad touch by Barry led to one of the brutal counter attacks that murdered us. Johnson was weak defensively but that's to be expected - I actually think he's come out of this tournament very very well.
Lampard had our best chances, but he's had so many this tournament and returned so little that one has to be exasperated. Roooney's first touch, as in every game, has been to trap the ball badly, back to goal, send it five yards back the way it came, scrabble back and either lose it by not being quick enough or else miss-pass it out wide to our absent widemen.
Gerrard, so disciplined in staying out wide against Slovenia, lost his head and kept competing to be in the middle. Likewise Milner. Defoe looked sharp and likely to run onto through balls, but no one played him in.
Germany, by contrast, had three incredibly mobile players behind Klose, and they all ran our defence absolutely ragged. Their passing and movement was outstanding, and their finishing clinical too.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:17 (fourteen years ago)
The answer to your question is: "worse"
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 17:17 (fourteen years ago)
Roooney's first touch, as in every game, has been to trap the ball badly, back to goal, send it five yards back the way it came, scrabble back and either lose it by not being quick enough or else miss-pass it out wide to our absent widemen.
I said this myself, almost to the letter :)
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:18 (fourteen years ago)
Mueller reminds me of a young Rudd Gullit, almost. Tall, lithe, athletic, great positional sense, good finisher, terrific wisdom and awareness. I can see him slowly moving back into midfield as he gets older, and being awesome.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago)
If it was in one of the poems I didn't read them.
For wisdom, read vision. iPad be damned.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago)
Rooney was statistically the worst player of the tournament, wasn't he? In terms of being dispossessed and misplacing passes? Amazing, really.
iPad be damned.
SB only averted by the fact that 'wisdom' in that context was deeply amusing, and no it was in my feverish run of prose posts last night
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:22 (fourteen years ago)
We need a manager, and that manager might be Capello if he wises up regarding international football after this, who doesn't play name players out of position just to get them into the team. Gerrard has had his international career wasted by being pushed into an unnatural position. He's 30 now and all that potential has been absolutely lost. Fucking ridiculous.
I wish we'd taken Walcott as well; not just cos I'm an fair-weather Arsenal fan, but because of Dennis Rommedahl - equally flailing with final decisions half the time, but the type of player who fucking petrifies opposition defences by being so damn quick. Imagine if he'd brought him on against the USA or Algeria, maybe even Germany, instead of Shaun Wright-Phillips.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:26 (fourteen years ago)
rooney's passing % was v low in terms of tournaments stats, and yeah i think someone posted that his ball retention, at 55%, was the worst in the tournament
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago)
He had lennon to do that, SM, who i'd still argue runs more intelligently than Walcott. He went woth SWP anyway
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:29 (fourteen years ago)
Why didn't we play Crouch? I'd never have the lanky, ugly fucker in my team, but his record internationally speaks volumes; Germany had the ball to play Klose despite him being bobbins at club level this season and it played off. Some players just work in international games, and much as that may be against the romance of the squad story sometimes you just need to accept that and go with it.
Lennon might run more intelligently than Walcott but he's not quite as fast and he's never scored an international hattrick.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:31 (fourteen years ago)
Had Beckham had any pitch-time at all, even if we'd still gone out the same way, theres no way on earth that the team would have walked off without applauding the fans.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:32 (fourteen years ago)
Matt DC and Hoy Hoy otm upthread re: England's deficiencies. @ Scik Mouthy - Germany didn't get a fifth goal.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:33 (fourteen years ago)
again, he had heskey (sans scoring record, admittedly) and much like klose, it was working at international level up until very recently.
lennon walcott speed trials would be interesting. lennon almost certainly quicker with the ball, finishing not up there with walcott but lately his touch, crossing & intelligence all much better i'd submit
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:33 (fourteen years ago)
It should be, but won't be, Capello - the FA have basically given The Sun two weeks to make the decision for them. Amateurs.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 17:34 (fourteen years ago)
yeah this 2 weeks thing is a nonsense, they're gonna let the anger against the foreigner build and get rid of him once the tabloids have softened him up for them
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago)
Oh England, you lazy fartsTry keeping the ball in the opponent's halfThe defence softens, the game is overThe manager in the dugout is screaming murderFlapping goalies fill the frameThe tabloid papers blame again
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:47 (fourteen years ago)
ur forgetting something..
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:48 (fourteen years ago)
Sorry but I couldn't be bothered to re-write the other two verses.
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:49 (fourteen years ago)
nah you've missed on saying what you think of john terry
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:50 (fourteen years ago)
tyvm, dan
― anatol_merklich, Monday, 28 June 2010 17:50 (fourteen years ago)
How is England's exit reported in Norway (and elsewhere)? Is it like Italy, giants amazingly crashing out, or is it more like Slovakia's exit?
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 17:55 (fourteen years ago)
Oh England, you lazy fartsJohn Terry is the biggest cnut in the park.So don't criticise Green or Jamesbefore you've mentioned that Rooney's lame.The manager will take off Defoeand put on Heskey, why I don't know.
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago)
sterling effort under pressure there
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:58 (fourteen years ago)
England's plane has left the airport Once again the team came up shortJohn Terry is a cuntIn 2014 let's play Carl Cort
― James Mitchell, Monday, 28 June 2010 18:02 (fourteen years ago)
Haha @ me putting fourth and fifth; numerous conversations have obviously weighed on my mind.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago)
terry the alpha male, yeah?synonymous with failuresynonymous too(to give him his due)with female genitalia
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:05 (fourteen years ago)
:D
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:06 (fourteen years ago)
The realisation has been building all day - I really, really want Germany to win this.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 18:06 (fourteen years ago)
SOMEONE ELSE HAS SEEN THE LIGHT
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:07 (fourteen years ago)
I would be happy with Germany winning. I think after Uruguay they are my second team. Then the Dutch, even if AL does find them boring.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago)
oh, and chile if they lol upset.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago)
tbh Özil's getting the credit here, not you
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago)
Not to say I won't be persuaded by a cracking performance by almost anyone else btw - I think we've lost all the dead wood now.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago)
Anyway, tonight - I'm estimating Chile's chances at approximately 0%
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 18:15 (fourteen years ago)
the cliche train is in full flight here and elsewhere...the team is good enough, english football isn't fucked, they just played way under their level, all this rubbish about more innate technical ability abroad etc is rubbish, it's not about technical ability when every player just is blatantly bollocksed and performs at 20 per cent of their potential. as i said elsewhere, england didn't play well enough for "lack of innate technical ability" to be the problem. they weren't lacking a fabregas or a messi, they were lacking any basic skill/ability/coherency.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:15 (fourteen years ago)
I don't really mind as long as there's lots of goals and no play acting. (xp)
Re: tonight, I'd say Chile have got a better chance than that.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago)
Chile will attack, Brazil will score on counters, it will all be a foregone conclusion before half time.
― I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago)
vamos Chile, I say
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago)
england lack the stamina of the other teams, ronan?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:23 (fourteen years ago)
To the tune of Advance Australia Fair
Harry Kewell you whining cnut, Now its global conspiracies? You forgot four goals by Germany Was what brought us to our knees Two games with only ten men onFucking miracle we got anywhereThe team is old, our green and goldWe got beaten, fair and square.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
saw a stat today showing german players had played more games on avg this season...maybe there is a fitness prob but really the same post-mortem is brought out every time england lose a wc. but it's mostly invalid handed down rubbish about "the way we train kids in this country" or "root and branch restructuring of every level of the sport" or whatever, it's like those very ideas and feelings are probably aeons older than england's trend of world cup failure.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago)
Welcome back, Kaka :D
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago)
there's a technical deficit re: first touch, movement and passing with english footballers, and if you're writing that off as a cliche after not just the last few weeks but in terms of having watched this national team fail to perform in 90+ of their games this past decade i don't know how to address that.
technically, and particularly on big stages, for some reason, these guys aren't good at the basic stuff, set against other national teams
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago)
So there is a similar discussion going on over here about where the team goes next, what we should be doing to develop players, and the like. Klinsmann said this and he's pretty much otm (emphasis mine):
Looking at the game yesterday you had three really quality players that did not live up to their expectations, Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey and Tim Howard. They were not there. It was not their game last night and if they do not step up to the world stage then you cant expect Michael Bradley and the other ones to pull it all off. I think its really important that they lay out a philosophy for US Soccer and say where do we want to go. I mean hopefully by the end of the bidding the US will get the World Cup 2022... and so you need to know how to develop the players. It is very difficult within the American culture to talk about that topic because you are the only country in the world that has the pyramid upside down. That means you pay for having your kid play soccer, because your goal is not that your kid becomes a professional soccer player because your goal is that your kid gets a scholarship in high school or college. Which is completely opposite form the rest of the world...and it is a tough one because soccer is very similar to basketball you need it out of the lower class environment. Soccer worldwide is a lower environment sport. We all got up from moderate families and fought our way through. You need to keep this hunger throughout your life and I compare it to basketball because all these guys are coming form the inner cities so you need to find ways, whatever they may be to connect with the Hispanics, connect with everyone and get the kids that are really hungry. To get the kids on a technical level that are able to perform and what I mean by technical level is first touch. The first touch yesterday was not there and you cannot afford those in the World Cup.
In one way I agree with the "we need to recruit hungry young players that are flying under the radar" sentiment, but the other problem is this is such a big country with a league that barely reaches anyone so it's always going to be difficult to sniff out up and comers. There's some interesting players in the pipeline (Gil, McInerney, a few MLS prospects) but for the next WC most of the core of the current team is going to be on the old side. Personally, I think that we should follow Germany's lead and start dumping these young dudes onto a big stage and see what can happen.
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago)
yeah but darragh those players can control and pass the ball, they're massively underperforming, that's not their genuine level in these games. i';m not saying they're the best team in the world or some shit but you can't honestly assess a side that isn't even playing at its full potential, there's something fundamental up with a team that just fails to even remotely perform the basics well. england aren't as bad as they're playing, it's why they underperform that is the mystery, bad control is just one element of major underperformance.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:37 (fourteen years ago)
Anyone watching Brazil/Chile?
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago)
yes!
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago)
I got so sick of the fucking "3D GOOOOOOOOOOAL" espnradio ad I just turned on the stream.
Omg that ad makes me want to kill
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago)
Watching here.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 June 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago)
Off work, watching lovely HD
Ronan xposts:
1. innate technical ability, to me anyway, is being able to do the simple stuff well. so if terry had ITA, he'd be able to defend whether on the left or right side of the centre half position, or barry would be able to pass the ball to his teammates, or gerrard would stay in position or rooney control the ball. We understand that Greece won a major tournament in the past decade without any great superstar, but they were able to do their job very successfully. To me that is innate tactical and technical ability shining through with a group of 11 players. Anything else is an added bonus - i.e. Argentina didn't need Messi on the pitch yesterday, nor Germany Ozil. Fabregas may not get a start at this world cup iir the group games correctly! Is it a coincedence that both Gerrard and Lampard need two defensive midfielders to do their job effectively for their club team? Or that Rooney supposedly needs Heskey for England? Superior teams of superior players are interchangable because of an innate technical and tactical ability that is lacking throughout English football.
2. They are aeons old because they are true. In the fifties the English team were roundly torn apart because they didn't move with the times and then it took ten years to figure out what went wrong and we won the damn thing. Since then...? What major tactical force has come from Englishmen in the game? Other than a handful of players, 5 or 10 at most, where were the great technicians of the game? 5 or 10 at most! The current French side was lol supposedly so good they couldn't take Nasri, Ben Arfa, Benzema, all potentially World Class players in their careers! And we got a bit annoyed about Walcott two world cups in a row! How is that not a grass roots problem about how we are training footballers?
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago)
Part of the problem is that young German players w/potential actually get to play in the Bundesliga in good sides rather than stuck in the reserves in prem.Love the way Chile start games be it against Spain, or Brazil, no trepidation just take the game to the fuckers although Brazil have responded well tbf
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago)
Brazil goal feels imminent
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago)
england aren't as bad as they're playing, it's why they underperform that is the mystery, bad control is just one element of major underperformance.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:37 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
James - went down this season, nicknamed calamity.Johnson - widely seen as a defensive liability.Terry - spent about 2 months of the season being a complete liability and was even dropped at one point even though he is supposedly undroppable.Carragher/King/Upson - lolCole - ok, world classMilner/Lennon - not there yet, could be v good in the future, wouldn't make it into the spain/brazil/germany squadsLampard - world class? needs two dms at all times thoBarry - out of position, unfit, not even that inspiring for his club sideGerrard - had a rubbish season and out of position, also needs two dms at all timesHeskey - lol (Defoe - Spurs's third best striker)Rooney - world's 4th best right back
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:47 (fourteen years ago)
I thought Jim Beglin just said "speaking of bastards Clive" but the follow up made it clear he had actually said "speaking of Bastos"
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
inability to perform technically due to nerves is still a failure of that technical ability, imo- at this level of performance this stuff should be instilled so as to be DNA
what do you propose is the issue here- that english players are just bottlers?
you can't deny a pattern here, so i'd be interested on what you think the root causes are
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
Okay when I said Brazil goal "imminent" = sometime during this game.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago)
it's not a grass roots prob because england simply played terribly. in other world cups in the last 15-20 years they've played well and narrowly been beaten. the last two they've been particularly bad but again, those players are underperforming. the side simply didn't play to its ability. that's a problem with management or motivation, sort that out and then see about the grassroots problems in the entire national game.
as i said, it's not about england not producing technicians, they're playing below their level, every player is underperforming. even in qualification they showed they are a far better side than this...until they play well, until rooney plays as you know he can, gerrard and lampard etc too, until they do that and then lose you can't talk about the entire structure of the game, it's too kind to capello and this lot to act like they simply aren't good enough.
x-post you could go through the german team and do the same. klose and podolski have about what, 5 goals between them all year? rooney had 34 but the diff is they're well drilled and motivated. don't blame some ancient legacy for capello and this english side's underperformance.
x-x-post to darragh it's not a pattern tho, england were good in 2002 and 1998. and "losing" is not a pattern. the only trend i'd say is the similarity between 2006 and 2010...but again, the team just isn't as bad as they've been playing.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:54 (fourteen years ago)
<3 this beausejour dude from all viewings so far
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:55 (fourteen years ago)
Danny Alves is kind of an ugly bugger, isn't he
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago)
i don't understand how a team can be said to be better than how they perform
2006-2010 isn't just a few games in two tournaments, it's a whole qualifying campaign in between that where they were woeful. that looked to have been sussed under capellp, and the fall from the WC qualifiers to the performance at the tournament can't be adequately explained by 'they underperformed'
what, all of them? for four games? that raises more questions that 'they're not very good', not fewer
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
dani alves- evil goblin
Darragh was that one of your penalty + booking for a dive situations?
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
oh lol maicon
howard well done but yellow card?
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
no, that's a dive and a booking imo
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
YOMP
beast header
Gooooooooooal
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
Noice
goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooobzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzooooooooooooal!
― StanM, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
Towering header! (yes Britain invented the header Clive.)
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
"a British goal" - this is Drury isn't it
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
oh wait it's Clive
fucking moron
lucio playing fuck with the markers in the leadup to that one
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:06 (fourteen years ago)
Dumb question...do headers hurt?
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:06 (fourteen years ago)
headbangers ball
― Zeno, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:06 (fourteen years ago)
only if they're scored against you
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:06 (fourteen years ago)
brazil are such merciless fucks - I wish ill upon them
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago)
Loving Lucio backing into the Chilean to stop him attacking the ball.
― BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago)
lol backheel
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago)
― Zeno, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
beautiful
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
game set match
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
Kaka lovely
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
onside
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
an international team is the sum of the players from a given country, you can say those players did not play as they can.
he fall from the WC qualifiers to the performance at the tournament can't be adequately explained by 'they underperformed'
I agree with you! But you believe it can be explained by "we don't have a xavi" or "we don't let kids paint between footie training as is done at ajax" or the usual bullshit that people say without even thinking? you must blame the manager for that performance discrepancy, you must blame the players. the entire establishment of the english game didn't let a goal kick bounce over their heads for klose's first goal y'day.
if they'd only lost 2-1 would english football be in a rude health, or was the game in fantastic shape when they waltzed through qualification but now is in the doldrums? it's so stupid, even if you guys are obv above that standard you must concede there is so much autopilot rubbish about england's world cip exits.
it's way too macro and vague to tie the two things together with some "pattern" that actually is just a tapestry of different football matches played by different players with different managers against diff teams, drawn into diff groups...etc.
x-post amazing stuff
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
why did firefox have to freeze
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
For once i gotta praise a linesman, he was spot on.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
fuck this
sneak up on 'em chile
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
kaka touch
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
it's sick now that I see a goal like that and just sit and wait for the seemingly inevitable replay showing that it's offside
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
there's only one thing for it...VOODOO CHILE
Love Kaka grabbing Fabiano, "hey I helped you!!"
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
Dan xps - one really strange and interesting thing about US sport that I gleaned from Hoop Dreams (and one or two other places) is how bizarrely haphazard it is at youth level. By which I mean that it looks like talented young guys depend on being spotted by a teacher or motivated neighbour at about 12/13 - and then that's kind of the hard bit done, because they're then kind of big stars for the next five years, the immediate competition for them is so low, they're carrying their team every match. There's a bit late in the film where a bunch of these protegés get thrown together for some trials (aged about 18) and the experience throws them because they've never played with guys at their own level before.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
i just can't stand to watch brazil and their fucking awful diving
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
i just can't stand to watch brazilevery team in this tournament and their fucking awful diving
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
But you believe it can be explained by "we don't have a xavi" or "we don't let kids paint between footie training as is done at ajax" or the usual bullshit that people say without even thinking?
that's what people say when they've been thinking! what people say when they haven't been thinking is 'lol terry's a cunt i'm better they're not trying they're actually shit at football'
you must blame the manager for that performance discrepancy, you must blame the players. the entire establishment of the english game didn't let a goal kick bounce over their heads for klose's first goal y'day.
yeah, in the immediacy that's who you blame. they are responsible for preparing themselves to perform, which they've not done. but that's endemic, and i won't blame capello for failing to develop an attitude towards possession of the football that seemingly cannot be instilled in these players. and i believe that's cultural, or at the very least that it's a coaching deficit from a young age in british football.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
so does holland have a chance against brazil?
― Zeno, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago)
xp not that i don't think terry's a cunt, or that he's trying- he clearly wasn't fucked to go out there and think about his job, and thinking is his job. but like gerrard, like rooney (usually), dumb 'passion' is the instinct in facing adversity, and that's england three world class talents right there. no coincedence imo.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
Chilean coach on verge of a hearto
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
except he did have them playing well! in qualification. it's not innate, these guys can keep possession, they can play better than they did. they were doing this 6 months ago.
you just can't blame innate problems in the game for actually good players dipping hugely in form before and during the wc. those complaints are part of any pattern by now.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago)
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
xps to Ismael it's true, it really is sort of an all-over-the-place process from what I can tell. The only youth sport I ever played was hockey, and when we hit about 14-15 years old all of a sudden the two guys who were always the best in the league were gone, snapped up by a traveling team with sponsorship, tutors, etc. Both those guys went on to play D1 college and one is in the NHL now. One major difference is that in rural northern USA being a professional hockey player is seen as being possible, just as in urban USA being a professional basketball player is seen as being possible... but there is an incredible gap as far as viewing professional soccer as a lifestyle that is not just possible, but even existing at all.
All this is why the school (be it secondary or college) level is so integral to American sports, because they're the only ones who really will take the time to work with the bulk of the kids out there.
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago)
(see also my post in Quickfire Poll: America wins World Cup vs. Your favorite American sports team wins its championship (ps americans only duh))
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
i don't think england played brilliantly in qualification, i think they were organised and patient and took their scrappy chances when they came up.
i tihnk that gameplan disappeared when the bright lights hit them, and team displays went out the window.
Capello hadn't a fuckin chance with them, once the WC fever took hold, it looks like. Hindsight, yeah sure, but the pointers were there with the friendlies coming into the tournament
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
Ronan- I think both questions can be asked at once, and are linked (re: why don't we have a [this type of player, is it a club training problem?] & why do our big name players underperform for the national side?). Firstly, there is no real competition for places. Rooney is out of form and he is dropped for... Carlton Cole? Whereas if Xavi doesn't he has Cesc fucking Fabregas ready to make sure he never plays for his country again. Or Xabi Alonso. Or Javi Martinez. Or Sergio Canales. Or Arteta!
Also these players have underperformed before and gotten away with it. The Italian's get booed at the airport and their government asks Lippi pay his wages back, the England team gets a bad write up in the Sun. Any decent agent has every member of that team thinking that the papers stopped being printed years ago; they are p much shielded from criticism. And if any criticism does make it through, the likes of Terry have been able to successfully push it onto the manager no matter whether they are deserving or not.
These ramblings may or may not come to any successful point.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago)
holland have a good chance against brazil imo
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago)
ps i hope aerosmith caught our prose tributes to england's finest earlier
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago)
the band or j0hn?
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago)
On replay that Kaka pass for the 2nd goal is just lovely.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago)
prose?
xp WELL DONE A HOY HOY
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago)
Hurray! Someone highlights the problems of man-marking on national television!
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago)
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:25 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
cheers lj but for what?
eh our poetry then, i forget what prose is tbh
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
Well, England is the most-supported team by far in Norway I would say (long story, started at the latest in 1969 with English matches on the state TV channel every Saturday), so they're covered very well in the media, probably mirroring UK coverage with the worst (and 2nd worst) overreactions removed.
Haven't read today's coverage really, but the front pages of the two main tabloids were:
"England RAGING against the referee" (Dagbladet)and"Forget the referee, England living in the STONE AGE" (VG)
― anatol_merklich, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
Re American youth soccer etc: Also, we're really into competition here as a learning or growth experience -- a lot of people encourage their kids to play sports just to get experience at winning and losing or whatever richness they think it's going to add. Hardly anyone besides Father Woods and Father Williams send their kids to youth sports with any expectation that it will result in a career.
The best people hope for is a college scholarship mostly -- which underlines how sports is seen as a tool for getting on in life, almost never a goal on its own.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago)
xp to ChrisYes, as a LFC fan I allowed myself a wry grin at that.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:29 (fourteen years ago)
yeah exactly. very few people care about maximizing the long-term potential of young talent.
― idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago)
lol that Nike had has expunged Ribiery, Rooney, Drogba etc from the cast.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago)
Mesut Özil is playing for German in this summers World Cup with “false documents”, thats according to the new Turkey manager Guus HiddinkGuus Hiddink, the new coach of Turkey’s national team, was asked about Mesut Ozil by a collection of Italian journalists. Ozil has a Turkish father and was apparently very keen on playing for Turkey until eventually deciding on Germany, where he was born.Hiddink was told a reporter from itasportpress.it“The German passport for Mesut Özil is false. The document was falsified to allow Özil to play for Germany, although he is entitled to play for them.”
Guus Hiddink, the new coach of Turkey’s national team, was asked about Mesut Ozil by a collection of Italian journalists. Ozil has a Turkish father and was apparently very keen on playing for Turkey until eventually deciding on Germany, where he was born.
Hiddink was told a reporter from itasportpress.it
“The German passport for Mesut Özil is false. The document was falsified to allow Özil to play for Germany, although he is entitled to play for them.”
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago)
sam yr being obtuseroddick was beaten by lu'stenacity; now chile's gooseis similarly caught in a noose
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago)
Dani Alves = hungover Robbie Williams
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago)
They all got further than Ronaldinho did!
― if, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago)
The new one has Robinho instead I think.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
― I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago)
this game is a borefest
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago)
Oh Kaka :(
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
kaka with a rather different quality of pass there
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
looooool that's the second time pandemic and I have tried to post almost the same thing within like 1 second
brazil are boring - I'm saying it now - if the final is them v Spain I am not watching (although are they in the same side of the draw now?)
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
lol I take that back, just stupid petulance really, although I will want both sides to lose
I r sorry for having opinions that i thought were related to the conversation lj. Will go back to talking about Wilshere.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago)
No.In different halves.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago)
xp to LJ
chile here don't look like they're ever going to get a decent ball into the goal area.
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
I did enjoy the poems
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
nono I was referring to your 'lol is aerosmith the band or the poster' xp to sam
fuck it's going to be the ONE final I didn't want
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
oh for God's sake
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
Challops maybe but I still don't get this Brazil = boring thing. Robinho and Kaka have had possibly the two most exciting assists and their passing as a whole has been immaculate, while they are one of the few teams not frightened to run at defences. Maicon and Fabiano have scored beauts. I mean yes lol they can actually defend but ROBINHO YOU FUCKING DUUUUDE!
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
Chile have been good this tournament but this is practically effortless from Brazil.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
shit ramires best player in the world by a mile amirite
― moullet, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
this guy above ^ otm
― moullet, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
What, yourself?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
DEAR ARGENTINA. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU BEAT GERMANY. PLEASE BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF GERMANY. THANK YOU.
btw yeah I don't find Brazil boring, I find the inevitability of their appearance in the final boring. their defense remains a joy to watch imo.
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
Why the Germany hate JD?
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
it's not that they're boring or play bad football - it's that they're so crushingly inevitable and they have a back 6 who stamp on anything with a crunching and final vigour that depresses me
they don't play the most fluid of styles either - against a properly good side I can see them playing pragmatically. this isn't a problem - I am an advocate of having a measured gameplan - but I wish they weren't so rigid in their slow march to progress. every brazil game has been the same, pretty much. I want to see them tested.
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
poop shelfs iirc xp
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
SHELVES
Love that Brazil always knows where their teamates are when it's 'go' time...the passing is glorious when they connect
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
fragrant platforms.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, June 28, 2010 7:45 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
might not be boring, but cynical as fuck.
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
you just don't like good teams do you? ("barcelona don't use tactics because their players are too good" or whatever :D)
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago)
btw has this world cup turned daniel sturridge into a worldwide meme yet?
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
"they keep on coming, chile, they're full of spirit cum"
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
Leave it Sam, I tried the Brazil = good side to watch, worthy winners line last time, got royally trolled for my efforts
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
cynical is a good way of putting it. they still dive and cheat, and they hang back until it's time to overwhelm - it's the effortlessness of it that irritates me - there's no vulnerability, but they're not doing it with enormous amounts of style either
would rather watch a world cup full of mercurial sides and brilliantly talented players who a good coach organises into systems ingenious enough to give them the edge, but with personal moments of glory still tipping the balance, not Brazil stomping their way past everyone else
haven't forgiven them for the portugal game either
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
that last sentence makes me think you are confusing them with holland :)
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
apparently the US talked to Capello? news to me... USSF's Sunil Gulati:
"The one time I talked to [Capello] about working in the U.S. was with Bob Bradley sitting at my side [in London]. At that time, he said to me that he was looking forward to a different sort of challenge with less pressure. [laughter] Maybe two months before he took the England job. Bob and I met with him to talk about being involved with our program. Not the national team, looking forward after being at Real Madrid and other places. We were talking about different things, working with youth teams. He is an interesting guy with a lot of interests. It was very exploratory."
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
it was said somewhere today that the premier league should take over the england job. became a better call as the day went on. our football is hostage to all things non-football: grazia, the sun, bp etc etc
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
Forget it, Ismael, it's challopstown
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago)
no because holland-portugal was a brilliant game of football and exactly what I wrote of in my second para
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago)
lol at VegemiteGrrrl
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
man, Ramires, your team is up 3-0. that kind of dirty play is unnecessary.
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
would rather watch a world cup full of mercurial sides and brilliantly talented players who a good coach organises into systems ingenious enough to give them the edge, but with personal moments of glory still tipping the balance, not Brazil stomping their way past everyone elsehaven't forgiven them for the portugal game either― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, June 28, 2010 7:55 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, June 28, 2010 7:55 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
football will never be what you want it to be.
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
eh you were slaggin argentina earlier so no dice jagger
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
long story
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
the only teams playing something other than homogenised football were north korea and chile.
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
and homogenised milk is where it's at as far as the big supermarkets are concerned. fuck the milkman.
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
is it because their bathroom lights are on the outside?
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
Argentina have no system, Brazil have too much system, your a hard man to please LJ ;)
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
*you're*
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:59 (49 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
calling bullshit here. what about uruguay's 3-3-1-3? or maradona's 4-1-5?
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
GRAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHH
4TH OFFICIAL OF DEATH HOW THE FUCK IS HE AT THE WORLD CUP
GRAAAAAARGHHHHH
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
rare to see lucio done like that
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
also England's 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 at times
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
idk, "whatever" (lol v. hard to address somebody whose handle is either "whatever" or "thousands of masturbating weirdos," well done) -- I have really enjoyed watching Japan play. will be cheering them on as pointlessly as I've cheered on Chile, Algeria, and North Korea.
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago)
chile played 3-3-1-3 before uruguay cottoned on.
argentina's gift to world football is a shiny suit and a mullet.
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago)
i think robinho's gay, 20 years from now he'll come out
― 156, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago)
This came is almost a carbon copy of Arg-Mexico. Chile started brightly with no cutting edge, then take 2 goals within the space of five mins.
Bah :-(
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago)
yeah after i posted i thought of japan and south korea. relatively untarnished by the euro-brau football we've seen.
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago)
football is not food...food directly affects health, football does not. homogenised society in the ruddy gutter tho of course.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
guys it is very simple. I have been lauding germany, japan and mexico. they are three teams playing in a way I like to see, with a good system, technically adept players, imaginative passing and an ability to vary their style. argentina are a shambles, but a brilliantly talented one, and I prefer them to Brazil because they are so unpredictable. brazil have made a dirty pact with fate, and disaster will scarce trouble their bow.
the other issue is that the Brazilian team is full of horrible people, which has factored in my thinking throughout
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
it was a metaphwoooarrr
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago)
aw cmon germans are totally bad people
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
I typed that before seeing that aerosmith was also a Japan fan - as I said earlier I am looking forward to their game tomorrow WAY more than either of today's yawnfests. and that's before we consider how titanic the Iberian clash might be
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
Bye bye Kaka
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
you took the words right out of my mouth
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
they export bad people to brazil ffs
Xpost lol darragh
Oh and Local Garda otm really. Eng really aren't as bad, they can play ok as a team although they don't have the depth of Arg/Brazil/Spain or maybe Holland and its probably difficult for new players to blend in to the team as the youngsters from those countries.
Way easier to get down about everything (a bit like Dom's post about Italy as a country after they got knocked out) at this point.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
aw cmon germans are totally bad people― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, June 28, 2010 8:07 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, June 28, 2010 8:07 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
not all of them, only the hun types, and any of them that have 'von' in their names
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
lj you realize paraguay is going to crush japan right
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
england do not, repeat do not, play ok as a team
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
pretty bad metaphor given that homogenised milk has scientfically different properties to non homogenised milk which are not a matter of opinion.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
heh xps, Darragh finally comes good
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
japan to win 1-0
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
kaka's not a bad person, he belongs to Jesus iirc
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
paraguay really aren't that good! didn't see them crush new zealand, also they were outplayed by italy for an entire half. italy the worst italian team in all times ever, that is
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
The ones that wear those noisy leather trenchcoats = bad Germans
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
ey i finally came good about two years ago iirc
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago)
i ain't a dairy farmer but i know my metaphwoaars
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago)
England do, repeat do, play ok as a team - as can be clearly seen from the qualification campaign.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago)
Kaka cute like babby, can't be horrible
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
oh yeah they were great in 1996 as well, i remember now
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
And in '66, but we don't know about that.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago)
he dropped all his underperforming/injured stars in 1966 iirc
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
except that goals counted for crossing the line
― thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
uruguay have also played some nice stuff, although they weren't impressive against south korea and I think ghana could easily beat them - which would also be something I'd cheer, because they're a good side who sometimes lack a final pass
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
c'moooooon Chile
score four times against Brazil in two minutes in the round of 16
you can do it
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
He probably had more depth in '66, too.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:16 (fourteen years ago)
HOWARD WEBB HOWARD WEBB LINESMEN HOWARD WEBB
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:16 (fourteen years ago)
darren cann for the coalition
― bielsa's heart rate (whatever), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago)
90 min tongue bath for ENGLISHMAN Howard Webb from itv, how did he not get man of the match it's a disgrace.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
he had the press on his side, and a gentleman's agreement with the king imo
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
wait had ye a king in 66?
this suazo has spent the 2nd half basically playing the bollox imo
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
haha with a few minutes left of england's demise I was reduced to calling a 5-minute Heskey hat-trick
yes robinho is obviously motm you clueless idiots, not one of the alabaster gargoyles preventing chile from doing anything at the other end
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
Don't cry Chile we still love you
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
God, they talk as if Brazil don't play the same style as they did in the last World Cup and the one before that etc. It's not as if Dunga has overseen some kind of overnight metamorphosis.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
So glad Robben is back. Holland have a fighting chance. xps = no such thing as the Murdoch press back then, the good ol' days.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
One of tmrws games gotta go to pens yeah?
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
very possibly both
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
Hope that Spain - Portugual doesn't. Cause I think that's the only chance the Portuguese have.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
Not so sure about that. Spain have really disappointed me
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
miss u bebeto
― mookieproof, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:33 (fourteen years ago)
lol @ robinho winning man of the match
juan all the way
― moullet, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago)
ok you have to give me a late pass for this
but, every single youtube has a vuvuzela button on it now.
surely that's been mentioned like days ago tho rite
― goole, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago)
Sorta think Spain might have found their feet in this tournament after that lucky break against Chile. Not long to wait and find out.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago)
omg just saw this, youtube you beauty
― flapjackin (gbx), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago)
works quite well with that tchaikovsky overture
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago)
Chipping in again to the English post-mortem:
There have been a lot of good points on this thread. As Ronan said, I don't think the problem is English players lacking basic ball control. All these arguments were wheeled out in the early 90s after the debacle of Taylor's England flopping in Euro 92 then failing to qualify for USA 94, and they might well have had more than a bit of truth at that time. Some FA chief coach, Charles something (?), was kind of made a scapegoat for championing the physical-long-ball shite that dominated English football. But English football is nothing like that nowadays, and most of these players are used to playing skillfully for their clubs in the Premier League and European competitions. It's also not true that English football is wedded to 4-4-2 and doesn't have the tactical flexibility of other nations: again this argument seems to be at least a decade out of date. Besides, Italy's pitiful early exit isn't being taken as evidence of a lack of technique - presumably there are other stereotypes and familiar gripes for the media to push over there.
For a long time it's been a problem of getting English to players to play for the national team with the same verve and fearlessness that they show when they play for their clubs. They can look brilliant one week playing at Anfield/Stamford Bridge/etc and then utter shite in either a timid cowardice or can't-be-arse kind of way. Starting with that win in Croatia, Cappello actually got them to play like they did for their clubs. For some reason that's worn off and they've reverted to type.
The lack of strength in depth point is a good one, though. Once you get rid of five or six big name players you're left with something of a Birmingham City or Sunderland in terms of quality. I don't think England have massively underperformed in terms of their progress this competition: getting out of the group stage then losing to the first decent team is pretty much the default setting and all I was expecting them to manage before the tournament began. But the manner of how they got to that stage has been surprisingly poor.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:58 (1 hour ago) Bookmark
as I have long said: the Green Goblin, to be precise.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:56 (fourteen years ago)
i know itv football is awful, but until you've watched half this world cup in the US and half in germany, you don't get to complain. dreadful banal commentary and analysis throughout.
p.s. howard webb got a tongue bath from german tv too.
― caek, Monday, 28 June 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago)
Do you support any refs, caek?
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 June 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago)
I'm not disputing that England are a better team than they were in 1992 (although possibly worse than in the 80s) and yeah of course it was the catalogue of individual errors but the seeming collective lack of a footballing brain/intelligent movement off the ball/knowing where your players are actually going to be running if you don't play with them every week is a cultural issue as well as an individual one.
I think these English players almost certainly had enough raw talent to compete against anyone in the world but the decision-making at international level has been atrocious. Half these players have played at the very top of the European game and yet they couldn't work out how to press for an equaliser without allowing Germany to hammer them on the counter-attack.
Of course they're knackered, but then again Maicon played something like 65 games this season and is looking like one of the standout performers. It probably IS the Premiership that's to blame for knackering them - how many Premiership-based players from whichever country are having a good tournament? Very few.
The other issue is strength in depth, and there really aren't any convincing back-up alternatives for the first XI. I'm not going to blame the number of foreigners - I think if English players are good enough they will be able to establish themselves at any club as indeed they have - so either English football isn't nurturing its young talents properly, or those players just aren't very good. Either way it's pretty depressing and I can't really imagine how the English squad will look in two or four years' time.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 28 June 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago)
Anyway Brazil absolutely fantastic tonight, they look impossible to break down and capable of cutting teams wide open with one pass at the same time. Still think they'll win it.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 28 June 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago)
xxp, howard webb is from up the road from me, so him if anyone. we was good tonight tbf. i will be pleased if he gets the final.
― caek, Monday, 28 June 2010 21:37 (fourteen years ago)
can't see brazil not winning this. they are ashford and simpson at the back and dangerous going forward. wasn't even gutted at the chile result tbh: was too obvious that that would be how it turned out. Anyway, good excuse to eat empanadas, drink pisco sour, have hot dogs with avocado and sauerkraut and a couple of glasses of cabernet sauvignon. viva chile mierda!
just wish they'd have had a kinder draw, because there are many teams in the second round they could have given a game; just not brazil.
― Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Monday, 28 June 2010 22:00 (fourteen years ago)
diego forlan's twitter is fun. the uruguayans love having bbqs
http://twitpic.com/20o79y
http://twitpic.com/20oi66
― Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Monday, 28 June 2010 22:01 (fourteen years ago)
wait hang on caek is posting - surely there is a hot chilean waiting for him in his bed!
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 28 June 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago)
saw some disconsolate (and sozzled) chileans at the cafe just a while ago. i told them i was sorry
― flapjackin (gbx), Monday, 28 June 2010 22:09 (fourteen years ago)
Check out the size of those steaks on the barbecue. If that's the average Uruguayan footballers' diet they'll at least have a lot of energy.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 28 June 2010 22:35 (fourteen years ago)
OK I like this onehttp://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Jun/Week4/15656287.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 28 June 2010 23:19 (fourteen years ago)
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Jun/Week4/15656280.jpg
Bit OTT
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 28 June 2010 23:20 (fourteen years ago)
they laughed yesterday....???????????????????????????
execute them
― max, Monday, 28 June 2010 23:25 (fourteen years ago)
lock them in the fucking tower
where is thomas cromwell when you need him
fucking disgusting
i like the way they've got capello flicking vee-signs at the English public there as well to shore up the CONTEMPT
― joe, Monday, 28 June 2010 23:32 (fourteen years ago)
free sandwich!
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Monday, 28 June 2010 23:33 (fourteen years ago)
also
FREE SANDWICH FOR EVERY READER
xp ha!
― max, Monday, 28 June 2010 23:34 (fourteen years ago)
maybe that's what the notoriously thrifty ashley cole is smiling about.
― joe, Monday, 28 June 2010 23:38 (fourteen years ago)
It's Ledley Burger King and Ashley Coleslaw.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Monday, 28 June 2010 23:40 (fourteen years ago)
Just glad to get back to their Clubs.
― Jarlrmai, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 00:06 (fourteen years ago)
Filet O'Fabio?
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 00:52 (fourteen years ago)
xxxps Viva Chile Mierda in-fucking-deed!!! I've enjoyed following these mocosos and their intellectual trans-andean leader. The Brazil draw was deja vu of course...when we get to the WC, when we squeeze out of the group stage, they always seem to be waiting for us in the first knockout stage, like a big panther with a shit eating grin on its face. Ah fuck it. No matter. Fail again. Fail better.
― collardio gelatinous, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 02:10 (fourteen years ago)
But English football is nothing like that nowadays, and most of these players are used to playing skillfully for their clubs in the Premier League and European competitions.
I don't know about that. When was the last time you marvelled at a Gerrard touch, or at Lampard's imagination on the ball? England's best players have, individually, a very strong specific skill set (at best) that's catered for in a very specific way by their club teams.
Gerrard gets to power around the pitch taking shots and making long spectacular passes, and he's fantastic for Liverpool. He does exactly the same for England, and he makes a balls of everything around him. Lampard gets time, space and cover playing for Chelsea he can only dream of when playing with Gerrard (major part of the problem playing them both) and other English midfielders, and he is a player that really needs that time and space to work. It would be entirely unnecessary, I'm sure, to point out the service Rooney gets at club level and the discrepancy in the crossing abilities of Lennon, Walcott, SWP et al.
It's also not true that English football is wedded to 4-4-2 and doesn't have the tactical flexibility of other nations: again this argument seems to be at least a decade out of date.
Not at international level. Exhibit A: Emile Heskey travelled to this World Cup, despite not being a footballer. Gareth Barry was presumably picked (in Hargreaves inevitable absence, admittedly) because of his tactical acumen, given the vital role he was to fill- and he was a miserable failure. Rooney, Gerrard- fantastic footballers, but tactics need to be tailored around them, because they've proven time and time again that they struggle to contain their natural instincts on the pitch.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 08:58 (fourteen years ago)
― The referee was perfect (Chris), 28 June 2010 23:40 (Yesterday)
lol'd at this btw
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 08:59 (fourteen years ago)
Bollocks. If English football is in such rude health then why are there so few good English players? And why are those players that ARE good not good enough?
Unthinking autopilot drone and FA Director of Youth Development Trevor Brooking yesterday:
"Clubs are understanding the importance of developing young players," said Brooking. "We need to invest in specialised younger-age group coaching. The old days when I played informally around the corner with my mates, developing my skills base, are not going happen anymore."
He added: "An 11-year-old youngster in this country isn't good enough technically so we have to play more short-sided games and do more ball work."
Those technical deficiencies were obvious in Bloemfontein as England subsided to their worst ever defeat by Germany.
German coach Joachim Low admitted he had highlighted obvious defensive frailties for his team to exploit and in the second-half, as England desperately chased the game, Germany were able to pick their opponents off with ease on the counter-attack.
"The way the game is going is pretty clear," said Brooking. "Teams are keeping the ball on the floor more. In the back four, you want all players to be technically comfortable. It all starts at the back and we want to encourage the grass roots this is the way to play."
Brooking estimates it will be five years before the Under-17 side that won this summer's European Championships will be challenging for full England honours, which means some dark days might be approaching.
"World Cup 2014 will be difficult for England," he said
"I don't think there are the obvious quality players coming through who can replicate what we have currently unless we can fast-track one or two of the younger ones, which is asking a lot."
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:04 (fourteen years ago)
HE'S READY
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01074/SNN2808AN-280_1074419a.jpg
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:06 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/england-must-look-to-under17s-side-to-build-a-convincing-future-2013095.html
But the bad news for England is that there do not seem to be the players who have the capability to turn a game in a moment of brilliance – "the unexpected part, the disguised pass, the movement," as the Football Association's development director, Sir Trevor Brooking, describes it – in the way that Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard have done or that Mesut Ozil has done for Germany.
It seems screamingly obvious to me that English football has been failing English kids for the past decade or so, give or take a Rooney here or there. Burying your head in the sand and going "yeah but Liverpool and Man United won the European Cup in that time" (with a mostly foreigners in the team) is all very well but isn't so much papering over the cracks as ignoring them altogether.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:08 (fourteen years ago)
And picking out Rooney as the standout in the current crop of early-20's merely reinforces the view- guy's got raw ability to beat them all, but he's not really ever going to be held up as a triumph of coaching.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:12 (fourteen years ago)
Thank you Matt and darragh for summing up a lot of what I was thinking.
Chris Waddle on the radio last night with the same point: clubs look for 14/15 year-olds who are physically imposing and have plenty of stamina, ball skills coming in third in the list of priorities. As far as developing English players is concerned this is still the norm.
The reason England are failing at the highest level is not because of some aberration. We ought to be able to get thru qualifying, the draw is in our favour and we're in the upper third of European teams. But our "good" tournaments over my lifetime have been full of luck, one-off individual performances, and scrappy narrow wins over theoretically weaker opposition.
Anybody who thinks England is better than this shd look at the number of top 10 ranked sides that we've beaten in open tournament play over the last 30 years.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:13 (fourteen years ago)
even more technical coaching like simon clifford's is not having outstanding results though. he's been running his brazilian soccer schools for 12 years and the sum total is micah richards, who's not noticeably more skillful than other english players. i suppose the problem is once they're 16 or whatever and playing for their clubs, a whole different set of values is prioritised and their early training gets pushed to the back.
― joe, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:17 (fourteen years ago)
English moments of 'individual brilliance'- Gerrard, Lampard or Rooney get space to shift the ball to their good foot and lash it home from 25+ yards. And the boys are very, very good at that.
I might not have a great memory of the English qualifying campaign, but the last moment of actual 'creative' brilliance from an English player in a competitive match was when, exactly?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:19 (fourteen years ago)
That Owen goal in 1998? Rooney in 2004 Euros maybe.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:20 (fourteen years ago)
There was this dude, David Beckham, pretty good right foot if I remember.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:22 (fourteen years ago)
Capello marks out Zamora amongst England's young hopes:
"Jack Wilshere is an interesting player, who is very good," said Capello, who was due to arrive back at London's Heathrow airport with his players in the early hours of this morning."Kieran Gibbs is another. I hope some good young players will be okay in the next six months."The chances are Gibbs would have been in South Africa had it not been for the broken metatarsal he suffered in November that ruled him out of the Arsenal first-team picture for the rest of the season.Manchester City's Adam Johnson, plus the more experienced Gabriel Agbonlahor can expect to be involved against Hungary, as can another Arsenal man, Theo Walcott, surprisingly axed from Capello's 30-man provisional squad.Michael Dawson, who went to South Africa but did not feature in a competitive game, also got a name check, while in addition, Capello mentioned two more players, one with no international experience, another with plenty."Bobby Zamora is not young and was injured this time but he is a player we have spoken about," said Capello."Another player we hope that will be fit is Owen Hargreaves. He did not play at all last season."
"Kieran Gibbs is another. I hope some good young players will be okay in the next six months."
The chances are Gibbs would have been in South Africa had it not been for the broken metatarsal he suffered in November that ruled him out of the Arsenal first-team picture for the rest of the season.
Manchester City's Adam Johnson, plus the more experienced Gabriel Agbonlahor can expect to be involved against Hungary, as can another Arsenal man, Theo Walcott, surprisingly axed from Capello's 30-man provisional squad.
Michael Dawson, who went to South Africa but did not feature in a competitive game, also got a name check, while in addition, Capello mentioned two more players, one with no international experience, another with plenty.
"Bobby Zamora is not young and was injured this time but he is a player we have spoken about," said Capello.
"Another player we hope that will be fit is Owen Hargreaves. He did not play at all last season."
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:22 (fourteen years ago)
Surely there was something in qualifying since?
I'm trying to think of the last time an English player looked like he was even enjoying time on the ball, without necessarily trying a trick or anything.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:23 (fourteen years ago)
Forgot about Becks, he definitely counts under all those categories.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:24 (fourteen years ago)
Beckham's quintessential skill was 25+ yards goals and long balls Matt. I'm asking apart from that, what have you got?
Because when a team is gonna defend against you, as a top 10 team, you're going to have to be able to string the ball around a bit, and maybe even beat a man, to get anywhere.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:24 (fourteen years ago)
Capello name-checking all of the talent that didn't deserve to play ahead of SWP isn't strengthening his case any.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:25 (fourteen years ago)
I think there's something in that - I suspect that Gerrard, Lampard and Terry at the very least could not wait to get out of there and back to their clubs. I think the poisonous three-way relationship between the players, their personal lives and the media has also had an effect. Terry and Ashley Cole may be absolute cocks but we didn't really need the tabloid press very publically smashing their lives a matter of months before a major tournament.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:26 (fourteen years ago)
"Another player we hope that will be fit is Owen Hargreaves."
jesus, this is really clutching at straws.
― joe, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:27 (fourteen years ago)
xposts
Yeah but you don't just want 10 dudes with neat short passing and two feet either. It would be an improvement, obv, but ruling out Beckham is narrowing down your measure of a great player too much imo
But since the tabloids are still gonna be the tabloids, maybe we choose players that can deal with this shit and leave out the flakes?
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:28 (fourteen years ago)
Think we just have to man up and accept that the next few years are going to be shit and concentrate on rebuilding. Rodwell-Huddlestone-Wilshere in midfield are not going to win you a World Cup any time soon.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:29 (fourteen years ago)
and yet Beckham's the one who's been ditched twice by managers looking to assert themselves
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:29 (fourteen years ago)
I'm happy for rebuilding to take as long as it needs to to create a stronger England football team. Unfortunately, I am not in a position of power in the FA because I'm not a blinkered money-grubbing short-termist cock who jumps every time the sports editor of the Sun goes for a piss.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:30 (fourteen years ago)
woah woah woah
I'm not ruling out any of the players in the 'can lump it spectacularly well' group- they're England's best footballers (not taking defence into account). I still think that might somehow be part of the problem though, that almost-template of what an England central attacking player can do- hit the ball, true, hard and accurately, at the expense of an awful lot of other things.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:34 (fourteen years ago)
Capello marks out Zamora amongst England's young hopes
Wish I could find that quote from the head of Aston Villa's academy, to the effect that England had better win this World Cup because, with the levels of talent coming through, they won't be winning one again in the foreseeable future
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:35 (fourteen years ago)
'Since joining up for the pre-tournament training camp in Austria, many of England's players struggled under Capello's strict regime,' says The Daily Mirror. 'His old-school approach left players bored, stale, unhappy and believing the 64-year-old Italian is even out of touch with modern methods.'
'There are understood to be grave reservations among some within the squad about Capello sticking to a 4-4-2 formation that looked static and one-paced against the Germans. The players preferred a 4-5-1 formation, with Joe Cole on the left side,' adds The Independent.
Staggered that there's fairly strong support for the idea that what needs changing here is a manager.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:35 (fourteen years ago)
Rodwell-Huddlestone-Wilshere in midfield are not going to win you a World Cup any time soon.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), 29 June 2010 09:29
barry
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:36 (fourteen years ago)
England's World Cup future bleak because of Premier League academies
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:37 (fourteen years ago)
Like I care anyway, tbf
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:38 (fourteen years ago)
can't understand who chairmen/managers think they're pleasing when they buy a player in to sit on the bench and play 5 times a season.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:39 (fourteen years ago)
Unless I'm mistaken Gabby played pretty pish the day that picture was taken.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:39 (fourteen years ago)
can't understand who chairmen/managers think they're pleasing when they buy a player in to sit on the bench and play 5 times a season
Would have to check with the boys in marketing to get a definitive answer to this.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:40 (fourteen years ago)
Big hearted Sepp
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:40 (fourteen years ago)
Lennon Huddlestone Wilshere Young Agbonlahor Walcott
Agbonlahor Walcott
c'mon fabio you know it makes sense
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:41 (fourteen years ago)
Maybe I shall regret going here but I wonder what it is about those guys that mightn't appeal to England's core fan demographic as much as Lamps and Stevie and Rooney and Barry
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:42 (fourteen years ago)
In Scottish football, historically this has been a method used by the Celtic and Rangers to make sure they have the player and no-one else does
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:43 (fourteen years ago)
ooooh NV
cmon seriously?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:46 (fourteen years ago)
As long as they're winning they'll be fine
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:47 (fourteen years ago)
I dunno. No, not seriously, but let us consider the "type" of an England "hero". Let's think of Stuart Pearce's bulging neck veins as he shouts for Carling in that ad or whatever. I mean "Englishness" is a definite thing for a lot of the England hardcore. And I definitely think the FA is more bothered about the Brand than the football, tbh.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:48 (fourteen years ago)
There's a shitload to unpack in what are widely considered the virtues of the English game compared to the virtues that other big football nations espouse. I really really don't want to kick start a clusterfuck but it was a fleeting thought when I looked at that front 6 of darragh's up there.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:50 (fourteen years ago)
saw the england-usa game in a south london pub where the guy behind me was a passionate england fan who shouted abuse at the team from the start, culminating in calling robert green a "fucking paki". so i could imagine this becoming a thing.
― joe, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:52 (fourteen years ago)
Tragic Football Stories - Let us Kick Around the misshapen Jabulani that is English football right here
Thought this might be an idea?
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:52 (fourteen years ago)
culminating in calling robert green a "fucking paki"
Uh, wha' th'?
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:53 (fourteen years ago)
Good one. Private grief 'n' that.
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:54 (fourteen years ago)
Perhaps a reference to Packie Bonner, and his error vs the Dutch in '94?
― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:00 (fourteen years ago)
Fuckin packie
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:06 (fourteen years ago)
ah no i take that back immediately packie u'll always be my #1 #1
Eh tbh most academies being shit didn't stop Barcelona winning Euro 2008... Wilshere/Gibbs/Theo future England team all the way.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:40 (fourteen years ago)
;)
theo will never be good enough for england first 11
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:41 (fourteen years ago)
LOL headless chicken as future of England football
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:43 (fourteen years ago)
"future"
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:43 (fourteen years ago)
rooney.jpg
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:47 (fourteen years ago)
was thinking Stevie but either way
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 11:04 (fourteen years ago)
terry carragher james johnson lennon
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 11:06 (fourteen years ago)
All morning now I've been thinking "ten two-footed dudes who can pass short" is the way to go, really.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 11:09 (fourteen years ago)
england don't have ten of these guys- by the time they get to full-international age they've all given up and gone breadman
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 11:12 (fourteen years ago)
I should be posting this in the other thread, soz.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 11:12 (fourteen years ago)
We have one ten-foot dude, does that help?
― Adge Cutler & the Özils (NickB), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 11:13 (fourteen years ago)
bdm-dm-tsch
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 11:14 (fourteen years ago)
One ten-foot due and 3 three foot four inch dues
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 11:17 (fourteen years ago)
Or dude even
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 11:19 (fourteen years ago)
calling a portugal and paraguay win today, although i really want the complete opposite
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 12:16 (fourteen years ago)
Spain must not lose
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 12:18 (fourteen years ago)
I would like Spain to lose, and Portugal to lose as well. I would like them both to lose. And play the greatest game of all time, a 5-5 draw for the ages, at the end of which both teams are down to 7 men and barely able to walk. Whoever wins on penalties will have to pull out on compassionate grounds.
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 12:20 (fourteen years ago)
in the work sweepstake (i.e. score at 90 mins) i have:
paraguay 1-2 japanspain 0-0 portugal
― caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 12:21 (fourteen years ago)
Spain going out tonight I'm saying. I'd've called a Paraguay win earlier in the competition, but they looked seriously un-arsed v New Zealand, while Japan were superb.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 12:24 (fourteen years ago)
great post! i don't think jozy sucks. he is great at getting into position, being in the right place at the right time but yes, it's the finishing, the cool head when it counts. which is another way of just saying ball control. but yeah even with all of that i was like SMH when he was taken off in the second half.
it is odd (to me) how attack-minded the US team was throughout these finals. i had been led to believe we were tight in defense and looked to score on the counter. instead we had donovan and dempsey creating mischief and chances, especially when feilharber came in, and bradley sort of terrorizing everyone. dear god when he decides to shoot it's like clear the decks.
it seems to me england lost very much like USA did - with poor defending of sudden longball "pub league" counters..
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 12:39 (fourteen years ago)
Think being managed by Phil Brown for a year is enough to ruin any player's World Cup.
In my "every Premiership player is having a shit World Cup" I kind of forgot about Tevez and Mascherano, which is a big thing to forget about.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 13:37 (fourteen years ago)
BTW was anyone watching RTE last night for the after-coverage?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 13:41 (fourteen years ago)
xpost what about Park Ji-Sung while he lasted, and the fellas with the Netherlands?
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 13:45 (fourteen years ago)
Fair points, although Park and Van Persie have barely played this season.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 13:51 (fourteen years ago)
Japan coach is a serial killer
― Zeno, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:00 (fourteen years ago)
Van Persie's not playing that well though? Better off with Huntelaar imo.
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:06 (fourteen years ago)
i'm glad robben's back! he's such a cocky dick, but i love him. somehow it's always a big game if he's playing.
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:15 (fourteen years ago)
Rather have a cocky dick than a dicky cock imo.
― Adge Cutler & the Özils (NickB), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:16 (fourteen years ago)
he's cocky, but taking injuries out of account he's up there with the top 5 players worldwide imo
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago)
Dickie Kok unfortunately did not make the Dutch squad this year
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago)
Dirky Kuyk
― Adge Cutler & the Özils (NickB), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:18 (fourteen years ago)
anyone else watching this boring game?
― Zeno, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:18 (fourteen years ago)
More listening than watching at this point. Great save by Japan just now though.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:20 (fourteen years ago)
glad i said its boring cause something changed since...
― Zeno, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:21 (fourteen years ago)
Not boring, just cagey so far. The rest of the round could've done with a few more similar close contests tbh
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:34 (fourteen years ago)
Japan looking as uninspired today as they were against Cameroon in their first game. Starting to wonder if unambitious pragmatism is their default setting and that they only displayed such free flowing joie de vivre against Denmark because the Danes had to push the game because they needed the wina and therefore left Japan with lots of inviting space to run into. I guess the bottom line is the result and they are well in this game, but I can't help but think a little more ambition could bring rewards. Then again, I'm a neutral, and I just want a barnstorming game. Which this isn't.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
Starting to warm up more, though. Second half might be when this all kicks in.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago)
i wondered aloud (to myself) the other day if asian teams didn't dive as much bcuz of the culture of shame in those countries. Then I wondered if it was racist of me to wonder that.
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago)
alan green making "honda" jokes, talking about the japanese being "humble" and bowing to the crowd before the game
― caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:41 (fourteen years ago)
see, he's white, AND from a colonial culture, so THAT'S racist.
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago)
He really is the Chris Moyles of football commentary.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago)
In that they are both inexplicably sack-proof
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago)
5live mentioning the game and the scruff of the neck in re: the second half. this is what i pay my license fee for.
― caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
(i do not pay a license fee)
They do bow to the crowd though! It's quite nice in domestic games where the teams troop to all four stands afterwards. Shows a kind of respect that doing a 360 clapping above your head, while not breaking your dash for the tunnel, just doesn't.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
I dunno who said it, so I'll just say Tyldelsley anyway, but one of the TV commentators described the Japanese coach as being "inscrutable" and of hatching a "fiendish plan" to defeat whoever they were playing at the time
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
alan green describing him as the most miserable man at the world cup and expressing concern for the welfare of his wife
― caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago)
The "inscrutable" coach with the "fiendish plan" made me laugh. He was described as "inscrutable" during the England friendly too. Plus the usual "doesn't look like the kind of guy you could have a laugh with".
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:50 (fourteen years ago)
xpost -- describing Tyldelsley?
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:50 (fourteen years ago)
it's the drury-beglin dream team fwiw
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:01 (fourteen years ago)
When Japan got their goal against Cameroon, after a delay they cut to a shot of the manager looking, well, inscrutable. The commentator made some reference to the manager's expression not changing etc. But then they showed a different shot of the dude's face in real time as the goal was scored and he was grinning madly, clapping his hands, and jumping up and down. Commentator was forced to retract his previous musings. I think it might have been Mark Bright.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:07 (fourteen years ago)
i had been led to believe we were tight in defense and looked to score on the counter. instead we had donovan and dempsey creating mischief and chances, especially when feilharber came in, and bradley sort of terrorizing everyone. dear god when he decides to shoot it's like clear the decks.
They were known for that... last year. Losing Davies (all the speed of Findley + finishing ability, touch, and "bravery") hurt a ton, and not having Onyewu at 100% hurt almost as much. A lot of BigS0ccer fanboys have been saying the team peaked last year during the Confeds Cup, and they've got a point there. The whole take Jozy off, put in Feilhaber, push Dempsey to forward routine worked really well in a number of games, but w/o Davies there to remain solid at forward, it doesn't work any more.
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:08 (fourteen years ago)
HE DOESNT GIVE MUCH AWAY DOES HE
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:08 (fourteen years ago)
lol, yeah I think that was the gist of it.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago)
I like Japan a lot but I can't help but believe Paraguay w/ Cabanas would be running this.
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago)
is he really better than all of the strikers they do have?
― mizzell, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago)
There is something not quite right about the joy I derive from a shot going out for a throw-in.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago)
xp led the team in goalscoring in quals fwiw
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:19 (fourteen years ago)
someone's done his shoulder - PLAY ON AND BE A HERO I SAY
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
So there was that fan invasion of the England dressing room and all and...
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/5338792/ce/us/tabloid-journalist-simon-wright-arrested-connection-england-dressing-room-intrusion?cc=5901&ver=us
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago)
There have been some outstanding tackles and blocks in this game tbf.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:29 (fourteen years ago)
Japan showing signs of stringing a telling move together here
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
xp oh pish-posh that's not real football we want goals
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
so you want Bryan Robson to cry onto your shoulder (xxxxp)
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
It's starting to get really good.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
ya, slow-burner
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:34 (fourteen years ago)
Woah! Awesome effect on the big screen there.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
that tv in tv x infinity effect entertained me more than anything else this game
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
Hahah I was thinking similarly. Screenshot, anyone?
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago)
man I am loving this game, you guys who want lots of goals are missing out on some fun.
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago)
somebody's high early today, boys
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago)
if that's aimed at me then that's the second time today one of my note-perfect parody posts has been mistaken for the real thing. i am an uncanny internet impersonator.
It's great! So much potential now. It's opening up and catering to the Japanese more than the Paraguayans and I think they'll put together a telling move soon. Massive contrast to the first twenty minutes - this is really watchable.
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago)
d-mac ned & iatee were opining that the effects onscreen were more fun than the play that is all!
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago)
I think this game would be more entertaining if it felt like there was something on the line. neither of these teams look like they could beat spain/portugal.
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago)
Japanese playing some sweet stuff now
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
Shit someone entirely unconnected to ILX just tagged a photo of Landon Donovan as me on Facebook :/
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
would somebody make a gif of the paraguay coach's understated "raise my arms in a 'what was that'?" gesture he keeps doing? it is cracking me up
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago)
xxxxpost -- the game's gotten better in the second half for sure, just took a while to warm up. Overtime will probably be kinda crazy.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago)
xpost -- hahaha. And he just did it again!
I would have loved it if Japan had been able to convert that one right at the end.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
that yellow card was bullshit
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
ref didn't want to feel left out in the ref club tonight
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago)
this Hyundai England-beat-Germany spot strikes me as ill-conceived
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago)
every time I see one I think: 'someone wrote this'
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago)
wow ok that's a hot post-break look, Japan
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago)
This game keeps building.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago)
oh my God
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago)
wuss goin on?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago)
there was just a pretty awesome save by the Japanese goalkeeper
Japan now has the ball down in Paraguay's neighborhood
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago)
Barreto from Paraguay always has this look like "holy shit, I was this close to scoring the gamewinning goal, that would have been awesome"
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:08 (fourteen years ago)
that's a tough neighbourhood. i blame the schools
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:08 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, some GREAT saves, Paraguay coach going crazy, this game is heading straight to penalty kicks at this rate.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:08 (fourteen years ago)
guardian MBM text coverage dude is complaining of boredom, but this match sounds p fukn tense from you guys tbh.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago)
paraguay are frustrated - they should be aware od the red card
― Zeno, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago)
To be fair I've had to dip in and out of the game this whole time (yay work) but every time I check back in it keeps ratcheting up.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago)
Japanese inscrutability will surely be an advantage if this goes to penalties, Jim
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:12 (fourteen years ago)
man I cannot imagine how anybody who likes sports wouldn't be enjoying this game
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:12 (fourteen years ago)
it became good somewhere after 80 minutes
― Zeno, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago)
wuz hoping to find this:
http://www.mocksession.com/30fps//HEINZECAMERA.gif
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago)
this is the most boxing-match-esque game of the tournament so far, no wonder aerosmith is digging it
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago)
also haha jimmy i requested that gif the other day, good work
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:15 (fourteen years ago)
Japan deserve to win this
― Zeno, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:15 (fourteen years ago)
It's not great if I'm honest, but there's sth compelling about it. Conoisseurs will understand.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:16 (fourteen years ago)
boxing match where nobody gets hit and then the decide the match by letting each boxer hit each other 5 times
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:16 (fourteen years ago)
would be an awesome rule change to boxing, c'mon!
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago)
a boxing match where nobody got hit because both boxers were great defensively would be a great boxing match for me, yes
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago)
that heinze gif- i mean, that guy's quick to lash out, or is it just me?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago)
wouldn't want him to turn around and bump you (which, tbf, is what happened) in the pub or anything.
to say nothing of the brutal drama of the Round Of Five Blows afterwards
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago)
He's a fucking psycho, surely everyone knows that by now?
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago)
allowing a corner here is a bad idea imo
tempers flaring!
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago)
this game sounds v compelling. what time is it at?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago)
holy shit Endo out if they advance -- maaaan that's no good
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago)
114 btw
the Round Of Five Blows is a fucking awesome idea for tied bouts! Obviously it can't be an entirely unrestricted shot, maybe the receiving boxer is allowed to place his gloves in front of his face defensively AFTER the puncher has adopted his foot-position (and is not allowed to move his feet during the punch), giving a curiously judo-tastic tactical element to proceedings
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago)
This is by far the most boring and exciting match of the whole tournament so far.
― StanM, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago)
obviously you couldn't have an undefended punch from a heavyweight boxer, first guy to strike would kill the other dude.
I think we gotta bring this back to the schoolyard- knuckles or dead-arm.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago)
if you didn't want to die you shouldn't have let it come to a Round Of Five Blows decision imo!
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
that would have been goal of the tournament by a fucking mile
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago)
hmm i see yr point, but in order to be a fair representation of a Penalty shootout it shouldn't go straight to sudden death, really.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago)
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, June 29, 2010 11:46 AM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark
hahaha i almost did this
― (roxymuzak) ((((d-.-b)))) (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago)
like I say, if the puncher can't move his feet, and if the defender adopts a blocking position, it won't be fatal
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago)
In favour of Round of Five Blows if it somehow involved Don King being the recipient of all Five Blows
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago)
very reassuring, that.
he's hardly gonna be up and full of beans for his own punch though, is he?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago)
xp was about to suggest that an neutral recipient, wearing a helmet, takes the hits and rates them. don king would do nicely, assuming a helmet could be found
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago)
No helmet could accommodate his hairstyle so, regrettably, he will have to forgo one
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago)
ok fine it has to be a body shot
how about that
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.collecttolkien.com/images/Helmets/Helm%20FOTR%20Elendil%20Sideshow.jpg
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago)
I still like the idea of a puncher punching without moving his feet and the defender choosing a blocking pattern
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago)
pffft nobody watches boxing to see fucking body shots man, rly.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago)
god I hate penalty shootouts
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago)
first man to punch his way out of a brown paper bag?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago)
Body shots can fuckin' kill you man
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago)
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― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago)
some heavyweights can throw from a standstill with incredible power - Liston, Pinklon Thomas, Earnie Shavers -- an undefended no-foot-movement-allowed shot from Jack Dempsey would put you in the hospital for sure
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago)
anyone remember how long it took in the 04 cup to get to a game decided by shootouts? seems like it took longer this year
― ksmh (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago)
this shit is cruel
god I love penalty shootouts
― Adge Cutler & the Özils (NickB), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago)
quickfire poll:who will win?
― Zeno, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago)
― Adge Cutler & the Özils (NickB), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:33 (5 seconds ago) Bookmark
― joe, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago)
kill the body and the head will die, what are you even talking about - the best fights are the ones where a precise puncher wears down a guy who doesn't know how to guard his body
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago)
ok how about they must stand toe-to-toe then? very hard to manufacture a powerful punch from so close
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago)
Japan. 8541-8540, in a tribute to Isner - Mahut.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago)
semi-noobish question: Do goalkeepers wear different cleats than field players? Something that allows better lateral movement or whatevs...
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago)
the world cup starts here, guys
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago)
no wait - blindfold them
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago)
Paraguay will win I think, based on absolutely nothing. Left footers are bad at pens iirc
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago)
all I'm saying is that the Round Of Five Blows makes a lot more sense in boxing than a penalty shootout does in football. I'd do some 'play on but remove a player each every 3 minutes' steez
also hahahaha wait that would be so undignified
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago)
the day rocky ends a fight with a body shot, well that's a dark day in movies and boxing and all-round manliness imo
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago)
boom 1-0 Pgy, nice pen
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago)
doesn't really metter who win - they will lose next game anyway
― Zeno, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago)
is it a parker?
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago)
otm xp
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago)
the penalty to ENDO it all
Why are the ref and his assistant standing so close? Would put me off i think
― Number None, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago)
Dodgy penalty from Barry Os there.
― Adge Cutler & the Özils (NickB), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago)
These are quality pens so far.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago)
paraguay is the BARRIOS to japan advancing
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago)
this HASEBE the winner
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago)
Did he send keeper wrong way or get lucky yhter?
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago)
cry japan a RIVEROS if they don't score now
OH THE KOMANOTY!!!!
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago)
is the japanese goalkeeper even trying
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago)
the Japan manager embraces the INSCRUTABLE stereotype again.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago)
hate this shit
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago)
i can't help but VALDEZ all over
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago)
just play another fucking 15 minutes, test the depth of these teams
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago)
play til they drop imo
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago)
jeez Honda how bloody casual can you be.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago)
This has been a weirdly unexciting shoot out for me so far
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago)
japan still HONDA slimmer of hope
oh MAN.
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago)
How early did the keeper go there?
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago)
CARDOZO easy for paraguay
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago)
No saves!
Ah well. Still, down to the damn wire.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago)
horrible match, horrible ending imo
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago)
that was the least exciting shootout ever
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago)
penalties are barbaric
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago)
Gah. Move the penalty spot to the 18-yard line I say, give the goalie a chance
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago)
Well that too.
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago)
why do they keep this up with the shootouts
― max, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago)
making people watch that game is barbaric
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago)
Do goalkeepers wear different cleats than field players?
WTF is a cleat?!??!!?
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago)
those puns are barbaric
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago)
I don't know max. NO ONE LIKES PENALTY SHOOTOUTS. NO ONE. Why do they exist???????????????????????????? GAH.
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago)
hey guys tied at one game...how bout you play a completely different game!! perfect.
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago)
xps cleat, stud, sorry I made it impossible for you to grasp
should have said "goalie" for good measure
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago)
should have a hot-dog eating contest imo
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:47 (fourteen years ago)
Round of Five Blows
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:47 (fourteen years ago)
isner and mahut, I guess you guys are equally good at tennis...let's decide the winner of this with a game of bowling
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:47 (fourteen years ago)
falconry
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago)
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seriously what is the official FIFA position on this? why not just go straight to golden goal after 1/2 hr?
― max, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago)
vegemitegrrl otm, it would really give everybody a chance to stretch their necks a little
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago)
i think they should do it like field hockey where they take one player from each team off every fifteen minutes
― max, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago)
I literally just posted that on another forum max!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago)
here: http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4260818
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
what was the reasoning for getting rid of sudden death overtime?
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
asking FIFA anything about anything is like being ignored by a sphinx, and then pissed on by that sphinx
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
"they're so so so so so shit. always so shit. only the woody harrelson one was good and that's coz it was woody fucking harrelson and a load of fucking celebrities.
replace them with up to half an hour of golden goal extra extra time, with a TWIST - every 3 minutes, a player is removed from each team! it must be an instant decision. thus is there an incentive to keep 11 men - a man disadvantage will be multiplied. anyway when one or both teams go down to 2 men it's played indefinitely, although the goal will have been scored by then"
considering that they've let penalty shootouts decide the whole thing MULTIPLE TIMES and nobody seems to give a shit, I imagine the official position is pretty entrenched
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
every time I start getting into soccer again there's some game that I watch that ends in a shootout and I get all disgusted and stop watching for a while
they should just continue playing until someone scores, even if it takes hours or days
― peter in montreal, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
OH SORRY GOLDEN GOAL HOW INSCRUTABLE OF ME xps
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago)
I am pro-murder mystery style overtime btw
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago)
but yeah falconry is possibly a better option - who can swing a bit of meat on a string best - sure sign of a champion
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago)
It was shite and everybody hated it
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago)
xpost Exactly. Or use teams as bait. Send the falcons after the players! :D
...or we go oldschool and just release the lions. Whoever survives wins the match.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago)
how do you think us NHL fans feel all year long now
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago)
it was extremely shite
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago)
Jesus that was boring
― Flowers By Pete (admrl), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago)
at least NHL shootouts are kinda freeform and involve some semblance of open play
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:54 (fourteen years ago)
the golden and silver goal nonsense was one of the worst ideas fifa came up with and thankfully dropped as it was awful.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:54 (fourteen years ago)
serious response though that nobody would like but would satisfy/amuse dumb old boxing fans: go to the cards. have a panel of three guys, appointed by their cronies, who keep score based on an arcane system everybody claims to understand but that can't be codified. time runs out, we go to the cards. the decision of the judges is final.
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:54 (fourteen years ago)
no they are the same deal! one guy comes at the goalie, goalie tries to defend
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago)
I mean yeah he gets to skate with the puck toward the net, so it's a little different there
Could you expand upon why was it awful? Did it lead to even more ridiculously defensive play? Did teams not try? Genuine curiosity here.
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago)
yeah I'm talking about ADDITIONAL golden goal extra time
omg a system of 'who played better' in football would blow everyone's mind haha
re: NHL shootouts - the guy gets to dribble and has a variety of options as to when/how he should strike - it's a process, not so much a moment - it isn't one strike but a test of all-round technique
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago)
the goal is a hell of a lot smaller too
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago)
oh I feel the same way about nhl shootouts but that's just regular season games and I don't really care enough about the outcome of those
― peter in montreal, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago)
^^^otm
yeah at least the nhl is smart enough to get rid of shootouts for the playoffs!
― max, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago)
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:55 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I hate hockey SO's, but the odds are more like 60-40/70-30 in favor of the goaltender. It's less "wait for the shooter to fuck up" than it is in soccer.
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago)
^this
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago)
e.g. I would say that it wasn't so much that paraguay WON today as much as it is japan LOST
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago)
so what are your suggestions, guys? literally just keep playing till someone scores? or was that field hockey thing serious?
― mizzell, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago)
who do we like in spain/portugal btw
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago)
^lol
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago)
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this happens all the time in matches that don't involve penalties
― mizzell, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago)
either would be infinitely preferable
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago)
the guarantee of instant ultra-goat status for at least one player to deal with for the next four years is just fucking horrible
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago)
I guess I'm rooting for Spain. How weird.
― Flowers By Pete (admrl), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago)
seeing some shit like this translated to the soccer field would be hilarious imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi5VPD30Z00
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago)
BOTH, AT ONCE, with 3-minute removal-gap xps
Yeah, I also mooted on that DiS thread a similar thing in football - a dude dribbling from halfway at a goalie who is allowed freedom of movement
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago)
he has 10 seconds to score
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:03 (fourteen years ago)
It was just a downer, you sit down to watch another 30 mins and some fucker goes and ruins it all by scoring. Plus it did engender even more defensive play. And one other thing, David Trezeguet's face.
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:03 (fourteen years ago)
can the falcon help him score in those 10 seconds?
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:03 (fourteen years ago)
the falcon can be directed at the goalkeeper's face, if there is a falconer on the striker's team with such skill in falcon-luring
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:04 (fourteen years ago)
what exactly would be the problem with playing until someone scores? I mean sure, some games would get ridiculously long, but is that really problematic?
― peter in montreal, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:04 (fourteen years ago)
hahaha the vision of the striker advancing upon the goalkeeper flanked with a phalanx of assorted raptors is possibly the best thing I have thought this week
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:05 (fourteen years ago)
i assume the only reason they don't just keep playing is out of a desire to keep the players from dropping dead, but they have 23-man rosters - i sort of favor the opposite approach from removing dudes (which is cool but is not exactly soccer) - allow limitless substitutions after the first 30 minutes of extra time
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:05 (fourteen years ago)
Nothing wrong with penalties, it requires skill from penalty taker and goalkeeper
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago)
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tv schedules, c'mon.
― joe, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago)
the removing of a player every 3 minutes thing would make the extra extra time last not very long at all
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago)
bump normal extra time down to 20 minutes as well
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:08 (fourteen years ago)
it doesn't matter if it requires skill - so does bowling and falconry - they're not playing the same sport anymore
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:08 (fourteen years ago)
I don't know, some baseball and hockey games take ridiculous amounts of time without it being a problem. People who want to watch the news just switch to a different channel.
― peter in montreal, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago)
xp Does falconry have penalty shootouts as well? OMG I want to see a falconry match now.
― StanM, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago)
I like penalties. It's not like it comes as a surprise to teams, they know if they don't win it in normal + extra-time they'll have to take them.
― Number None, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:11 (fourteen years ago)
Also they're exciting. Golden goal wasn't.
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:12 (fourteen years ago)
I'm not suggesting a straight golden goal!
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:13 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah. Golden goal actually made extra-time even more cagey than normal
― Number None, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago)
i suggest headbutts
― max, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago)
Barring falconry, how about a dance-off?
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago)
have the penalty taker throw the ball at the net, goalie cannot use his feet
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:17 (fourteen years ago)
er, hands
that would ensure penalty shootouts going on for like 4 days
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:18 (fourteen years ago)
It seems like every pre-game interview I saw w/England players before the Germany game, they were asked if they were practicing penalties and it drove me mad. They're rather difficult to re-create in a practice setting and also, it's not like you won't potentially need them for EVERY game in the knockout stages.
I'm totally fine with the death of the Golden Goal - they actually made overtime less likely to end in a goal.
― I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:18 (fourteen years ago)
ok, goalie can only use a falcon xp
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago)
wait what if the goalie is a falcon
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago)
Dance off, headbutts and throwing the ball at hands-barred keeper all good. Mind you, you don't want to go to headbutts with, say, Scotland.
― I suck as an individual not because I'm a (Michael White), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago)
one team's best falcon penalty kicker vs. one team's best falcon goalie if it's still tied, falcons do a round of five blows
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:21 (fourteen years ago)
Why golden goal was awful xps:
1. teams became ultra-risk-averse due to sheer terror2. when it was scored, end of game was such a surprise, totally deflating3. it's not the goal that's the great thing, it's the team that concedes it having to go all-out attack afterwards. Golden goal basically solved the problem by removing the best part of football.
Seriously, move the spot back to 18 yards, or just let the taker kick from anywhere in the D - the average scoring rate being 2 or 3 out of 5, rather than 4 or 5 = huge tension and rewards for all
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:23 (fourteen years ago)
unlimited OTs then. anything but shootouts.
― max, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:25 (fourteen years ago)
Anywhere in the D would make penalties meaningful
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:26 (fourteen years ago)
that's not a bad idea either
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago)
not inside the D but along the D line
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:29 (fourteen years ago)
I can see teams playing more defensively if they know they're going to go to penalty kicks anyway if it stays tied, but you'd think they'd take a bit more risks if scoring a goal was the only way to win a game
― peter in montreal, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:29 (fourteen years ago)
didnt work that way
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:30 (fourteen years ago)
initial extra-time then the harum-scarum of players-removed overtime - too busy weighing up who to take off to be all tactical and defensive about it
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:30 (fourteen years ago)
surely some players might prefer pens? (not incl the keeper obv)
the problem is that the ppl responsible for the gameplay prior to pens are the guys most likely to prefer waiting for the shootout. a team with a bunch of quality shot takers is gonna sit back and wait for pens imo.
― flapjackin (gbx), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:31 (fourteen years ago)
declare the teams 'co-winners'; force them to merge for the next round
― max, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:31 (fourteen years ago)
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:33 (fourteen years ago)
declare the teams 'co-losers'; opponent in next round gets a bye
― peter in montreal, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:33 (fourteen years ago)
I mean, as a spectator, I want action and not dumb pens. as a player I'd want to -win- any way possible
― flapjackin (gbx), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:33 (fourteen years ago)
winner of penalty shoot out automatically deemed the loser because really it's kind of a jerky thing to do anyway.
iatee's solution still the best imo
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:35 (fourteen years ago)
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the basic problem was it didn't settle matches because it made teams more cautious so they would defend for 30 minutes and take their chances with penalties. it was a total failure.
― caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago)
i read about some economist doing his phd on it from a game theory pov
― caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:43 (fourteen years ago)
silver goal didn't really work either ;_;
― caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:45 (fourteen years ago)
Just playing until someone scores in an APALLING idea, you could end up with the equivalent of that Wimbledon match last week where the players are so exhausted they get utterly smashed in the next round, either through tiredness or being forced to field a weaker side.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago)
I read something on wikipedia about a suggestion of 'most corner kicks' out of a series of 10 or whatever instead of penalties? I kind of like that idea...though I'm not a boffin so maybe this is an outlandish and ridiculous suggestion. (Barring falconry, of course)
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago)
deciding it on corner kicks would at least involve the whole team
― peter in montreal, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago)
oh I kinda like the corner idea
alternate: just get evryone to play a giant game of "world cup" against a neutral goalie
― flapjackin (gbx), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago)
Corner kicked seemed sorta reasonable, still bit of a skill involved and everyone gets to play.
Or: Shrink the ball and the goal. Penalty shootout is done with a tennis ball and an icehockey sized net.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:00 (fourteen years ago)
shrink the field, or make the goal bigger
― peter in montreal, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:04 (fourteen years ago)
shrink the players!
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:05 (fourteen years ago)
there really needs to be a sport where the size of the field varies as the game progresses
― peter in montreal, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:06 (fourteen years ago)
What formation did Capello play when he was at Real/Juve/Roma/Milan?
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:07 (fourteen years ago)
the excellence of Clarence Seedorf's English when he's lived in about five countries, none of them English speaking, is making me feel bad about myself. I should probably feel bad about myself more often.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago)
BBC have done a good job hyping me up here - all coverage should start with Rumble In The Jungle footage imo.
DO NOT LET US DOWN, PONCES.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
They should take off a player from each side every ten mins of extra time.
― Flowers By Pete (admrl), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
Or an item of clothing :D
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago)
Except Dani Alves. He must remain clothed at all times.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:27 (fourteen years ago)
Let it be thrilling. Or if not thrilling, brutal.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, I'm excited for this one.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago)
Oh this will be good...
― Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago)
lotsa style points so far
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago)
lol Martin Tyler: "too many cooks spoil the gazpacho"
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago)
pretty neat so far, spain having 3 shots so far. on target i might add
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago)
On the penalties thing, I'd have the shoot out after normal time. Whoever loses shootout understands that after extra time if the game is tied they have LOST. Maybe then you'd get an extra time where one team is going all out to score. And the guy who misses the penalty has time to redeem himself.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago)
Torres looking very Torres so far.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago)
game is a million times more watchable than the last one
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:47 (fourteen years ago)
wtf torres doing then
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago)
HAHA slow mo goalkeeper fish impression
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago)
Casillas' mouth is what slow motion is all ABOUT.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago)
or horse
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
Lawrenson now criticising Pearce for spending his day doing his job, good stuff.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago)
Portugal could have some fun on the counter as this goes on
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago)
That swerved one way then the other, it's no surprise a goalie can't take it cleanly.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, I rate Reina as better than Casillas, but that shot was impossible to handle.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
lol ronaldo, just saying
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
The ref clearly distrusts poor old Ronaldo, "I'm not falling for your tricks sonny, even the ones where you're clearly fouled"
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
Portugal having significantly the better of this now. Really interesting match.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
Credit to Queiroz Portugal are very sound defensively. This is going exactly as they would wish.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago)
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this has been done, FYI. UEFA tried this in ?Intertoto? quailifiers or some such when Robbie Keane was there. He missed. Exactly as you describe it.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
Pandemic's solution the best.
enjoyable match so far imo
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago)
NASL had this according to my childhood encyclopaedias - it looked fun. Forward should always score though, no?
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago)
golden goal w/ pitch set to explode after 30 minutes.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:23 (fourteen years ago)
haha
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago)
Some fantastic wanky BBC eulogizing for 'the goal that never was' during halftime, here.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:26 (fourteen years ago)
I'm sorry, but this match-up wins for the overall hotness quotient of the two teams combined.
― Virginia Plain, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago)
Re BBC h-time. Why did they show the Fabiano handball, are they seriously saying that his goal would have been reviewed using technology? It wouldn't would it? Also criticizing the ref in the Arg/Mex game, how is an offside call his fault?
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago)
just read that the refs from Arg/Mex and Eng/Ger have been sent packing from the tournament
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago)
Okay WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REFS WHO DISALLOWED TWO US GOALS? It didn't, in the end, keep us from getting out of group, but Eng commentators have been KILLING THEMSELVES to create controversy out of that stupid goal when Ger trounced them soundly anyway and no one doubts that the outcome would have been the same either way. If it makes FIFA actually admit that cameras exist, then fine, the rest is just talk. But it's SO DUMB AND UNFAIR.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago)
I'm really angry and put-upon-feeling today, btw, in case you couldn't tell.
this match does look good, pity some of us henpecked boyfriends are making dinner during it.
this thread this week has been me liveblogging my alternative activites during the evening games, iirc
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago)
iirc the Malian dude who called back Edu's goal was relegated to 4th official status, not sure about the other guy
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
Wonder if the Nike curse has spread to the Gessbra hair salon.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago)
That's pretty normal, tbh. There aren't that many games left to go, so they don't need all the refs any more, so they get rid of the ones that have fucked up the worst. (see English ref giving one player three yellow cards in previous tournament)
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
Can't they just clone Pierluigi Collina and have him ref every game.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
Great great cross
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
two disallowed US goals? there was the freekick that no one could see (which technology wouldn't fix), but what was the other one? that borderline offside decision that was borderline on replays as well as real time?
― caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
COME ON!!!
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
I think it'll end up 2-1
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
Oh what a lovely pass
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
a goal!!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
bah
― caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
Need a Ronaldo version of rooneytunes.jpg
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
"it was like their collective football brains all came together to make that goal"
― caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
Villa's just getting warmed up...
― Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
Spain just stepped up a gear in the last 5 mins or so. You just felt a goal was coming. Portugal need to change their defensive tactics now, so the rest of the game should be quite a treat(hopefully)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
hm offside on that one? only showed one replay where it was possible to tell
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
the sub that saved spain
― Zeno, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
two great passes, iniesta's flick and xavi's backheel.
― bielsa's heart rate (whatever), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
Thought it was just onside but the last flick was v close. Just rewound it v.v.close. Possibly just offside but really a coin flip.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
Love the idea that you can rip your opponents' shirts to make them play with ten men for a bit
― if, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago)
Whither Helder Postiga?
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
Llorente is wearing a different kit to the rest of them.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago)
I'm disappointed that Alonso hasn't had shot from the half way line thus far in this World Cup :(.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago)
Really hope Portugal equalise cos extra time would be a treat. Don't see it though
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
niiiiiice
― bielsa's heart rate (whatever), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
Portugal' goalkeeper saves them from 4-0 so far
― Zeno, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
I thought Portugal had the edge in the first half but this half has been all Spain, especially since the subs.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
Never sure of the wisdom of subbing off your main goal threat just in case Portugal score and you need him for extra time.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago)
Red card for Costa.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
Oh fuck off
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
classic portugal...
what happened??
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
Ah here's the football I know and love.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
rumour is that theres no replays for questionalble offside any more as a fifa "solution" for the problem..
― Zeno, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
loooooooooooooooooooooooooool
― youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
haha, dreadful
― caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
that last replay looked like he did elbow him but at first i thought wtf noone near him
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
BYE BYE RONALDO YOU MONSTROUS FUCKING PRICK
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
rumour is that theres no replays for questionalble offside any more as a fifa "solution" for the problem..― Zeno, Tuesday, June 29, 2010 9:18 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Zeno, Tuesday, June 29, 2010 9:18 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
if they're not going to use tv officially then yeah, there should not be replays in the ground. no problem with that.
― caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
give us another replay of the red card incident ffs
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:18 PM (52 seconds ago) Bookmark
Capdevilla was maybe, or more likely not, elbowed by Costa. Went down as they do, and by they I mean footballers, straight red.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
gonna be handbags at the whistle here. stoked.
― caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
I love how the editors always cut away from crowd shots just as the people realize they're on TV and before they can locate the camera and give eye contact.
Hooray Spain!
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
so spain in semi-final
― Zeno, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
lmao @ ronaldo spit at the camera
― youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
Portugal didn't deserve anything from this game. Defensive and had no plan b when they went a goal down.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
fuck portugal...tedious bunch.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
xxpost -- Hahah was just coming to post that.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
Serves portugal right for sticking ten men behind the ball so much.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
Good game. Spain deserved it in the end but no way are they going to win this tournament.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
really disappointed by Portugal. They set out to defend and that was it. Fuck them.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
i don't think they're worried about people in the crowd making eye contact.
― caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
not buying the red card. not buying the goal. go paraguay!
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago)
Four years ago i got mad at all the teams who got an early goal and hen tried to defend a 1-0 lead for 70 or 80 minutes; this time out I'm fucking furious at the teams who try and defend 0-0 from the start. Shocking behaviour. It's not even as if Portugal were trying to hit Spain on the break much.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago)
"they're not going to use tv officially then yeah, there should not be replays in the ground. no problem with that."
and this way no one's gonna talk about it anymore. north korea will love this idea.
― Zeno, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
No games til Friday now. ;_;
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
I think that was easily Spain's best game of the tournament, so I don't rule them out of improving further.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
funny that they don't wanna use TV when they put their logo & songs on everything
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago)
I reckon he was onside for the goal; I'm of the mind that there needs to be daylight between attacker and defender, and if in doubt benefit the attacker. We are here to see goals, after all
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago)
xp to VG. Yeah, total bummer. I'm so used to a minimum of 2 games a day now.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago)
I thought Portugal were great until Spain turned it on myself - no problem at all with teams who defend well and pose threats on the break. They're no Greece or Switzerland.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
they didnt pose threats on the break though
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
and this way no one's gonna talk about it anymore. north korea will love this idea.― Zeno, Tuesday, June 29, 2010 9:26 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Zeno, Tuesday, June 29, 2010 9:26 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
blatter will die. things will change. replays and other technology will be used. but in the meantime, big screen replays of borderline decisions _in the ground_, _after play has been restarted_ serve no purpose but to wind players up, which makes it impossible to keep a sensible game of football (as distinct from lol football) going.
it would be insane and pointless. there has not been a sinister change of policy. this has always been the policy.
― caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago)
They did though - they were well on top before half time.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:33 (fourteen years ago)
What I saw of the first half, Portugal impressed me a LOT more than Spain, and had way more chances.
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago)
Stop rewriting history because you want David Villa to bum you!
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago)
I mean, it's not as if Spain were really any good until they scored
blessing in disguise tbh
― Flowers By Pete (admrl), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago)
This line deserves to be used in more situations.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago)
Clarence Seedorf is younger than me? WTF???
― problem chimp (Porkpie), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
I'm disappointed that Alonso hasn't had shot from the half way line thus far in this World Cup
He did have a pretty lame effort in one of the group games, can't remember which one though.
― Number None, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago)
xxpost blessing in disguise? I hope that's joeks admrl...
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago)
Portugal just sat back and looked to hit Spain on the break. Once they went a goal dwon they had no plan b. Spain were greatly improved by taking off Torres who was Rooney-like in his ability to lose possession.
― Number None, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago)
Portugal impressed me by losing, imo.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago)
Spain were a lot better than Portugal even in the first half, but Portugal had the better chances mostly because of Casillas. If he continues to play like that, Spain aint winning this.
Still, Spain in the second half = fantastic. Portugal didn't deserve to get anything from this game and Spain could have won 3 or 4-0. Terrific stuff.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago)
friend of mine just suggested a 5v5 half-field game instead of PKs
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago)
^^^would smash
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago)
pitch markings and choosing end are an issue
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 21:33 (fourteen years ago)
i've heard golden goal with each player losing a play of their choosing every, say, 3 mins
― caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago)
the player you take off is killed, naturally
I think just a bit fight in the centre circle, last man standing.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago)
Crossbar challenge
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 21:50 (fourteen years ago)
caek I was vigorously suggesting EXACTLY that upthread, like, inna kind of 'will not shut up about it like he's wont to do sometimes nay all the time' way
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago)
except my version had more falconry
oooh I like the idea of a game of posts/crossbar
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago)
Damn, crossbar challenge is actually the right answer, is it not? The only thing that could go wrong is a Mahut-Isner of failure.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago)
Could they not settle matters with the biscuit game?
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 21:53 (fourteen years ago)
Finally a way for England to win!
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 21:54 (fourteen years ago)
Feats of strength followed by Airing of grievances
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago)
Or, every player gets a jabulani, first one in the goal wins. Like hungry hungry hippos kinda.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 21:56 (fourteen years ago)
each side takes eleven pot shots simultaneously from outside the area, like at the end of Argentina training
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago)
Ooh, I like that.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:00 (fourteen years ago)
the "lose a player per x mins" has actually been suggested by sane people though, iirc
― caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:03 (fourteen years ago)
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago)
heard that suggestion about 20 years ago i think...
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:10 (fourteen years ago)
not exaggerating, think my brother said he read it. this was in 1991 or thereabouts.
Penalties are fine, stop being bitches. I've been there for Seaman's highs and his lows and I made it through it. The highs being p much the best highs in football.
What formation did Capello play when he was at Real/Juve/Roma/Milan?― The referee was perfect (Chris), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:07 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:07 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Milan team for the 1994 cl final 4-0 v. Barca-
RossiTassotti Galli Maldini PanucciDonadoni Desailly Albertini Boban Savicevic Massaro
Roma team was 4-4-2 with Cafu as a 3rd winger, much less rigid than his Milan team. Cannot really remember his first Real team.
Juve-
BuffonThuram Cannavaro Kovac Zambrotta VieiraCamorensi Nedved Del Piero Trezuguet Zlatan
Real mk 2-
CasillasRamos Cannavaro Helguira Carlos Emerson DiarraReyes/Higuain/Becks Robinho Raul van Nisterlrooy
then lol england.
also FUCK PORTUGAL AND CAPDEVILLA.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago)
yeah I've heard it somewhere else - am def not claiming credit, just saying it's a good idea
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago)
"lose a player" would certainly resolve the game, but it's kind of difficult to predict how players/managers would respond and whether it would really reward what you want to reward (which is presumably positive football). would like to see it tried. would be hilarious at the v. least.
― caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:13 (fourteen years ago)
would be hilarious at the v. least.
bears repeating
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:14 (fourteen years ago)
It would usher in a whole new layer of tactics, imho. It's like the anti-substitute.
― Flowers By Pete (admrl), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:15 (fourteen years ago)
Of course both managers could make a blind choice for next player off.
― Flowers By Pete (admrl), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago)
fuck it, the game's meant to be 90 minutes long anyway - just do that instead of extra time
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago)
rather than losing players, start adding balls
― mookinho (mookieproof), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago)
or goals
― Flowers By Pete (admrl), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago)
also replace commentators with a musical scores that responds to movement on the pitch. Bum notes for missed sitters, intercepted passes, drumrolls for throw ins etc.
― Flowers By Pete (admrl), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:18 (fourteen years ago)
ice hockey rallentando
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:20 (fourteen years ago)
the take a player off thing is straight from field hockey fwiw
― max, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:20 (fourteen years ago)
it sort of happens in ice hockey too but its not successive losses
― max, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:21 (fourteen years ago)
Loathe as I am to add grist to the mill of less-reputable posters, I must confess to finding Spain pretty boring to watch. It's good when there's a real struggle on and they look vulnerable, but in this tournament that's been just the opening against Chile and maybe half-an-hour today. Possibly the last ten minutes against Switzerland at a stretch. Otherwise there's no drama, it's mostly just waiting around for them to score. That's kind of how I remember 2008 as well.
I want to see them hounded, and have to respond, in big games that could go either way. If they do that well then great, I'll be a fan, but until I see that I have no faith. Holland would probably beat them. Uruguay too maybe. Germany would have a good chance. Brazil would murder them.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:27 (fourteen years ago)
lol @ "less-reputable posters"
― 156, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:39 (fourteen years ago)
i'm a FUCKEN institution you FUCK
*spits dismissively*
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:40 (fourteen years ago)
*kisses teeth*
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:41 (fourteen years ago)
spits dismissively?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iksaDFzg_WE
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMxUu4Vu0lk&feature=youtu.be
yesterday's Uruguayan barbecue in video form. accents and the fact that at least two players are drinking a mate make this quality stereotypical Uruguayan gold.
― Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago)
lol after watching it again there's at least 5 drinking mates.
― Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:52 (fourteen years ago)
a well-behaved lot, the sort you'd take home to your mother
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago)
Ronaldo can't even spit convincingly. Looks like he's blowing something off the camera lens.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago)
Would hang with Uruguay.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 23:02 (fourteen years ago)
So at this point most of the Nike featured players are now out, aren't they? And most of them sucked hard. (Ribery, Ronaldo, Rooney, Cannavaro...wait, surely Donovan had the best run of them all in the end!)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 01:52 (fourteen years ago)
ronaldo had the best run, donovan was the one who looked least like a chump
― fresno's wet (gbx), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 01:53 (fourteen years ago)
ERASE THE PAST
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 01:55 (fourteen years ago)
They're melting down the nonexistent statue as I type.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 01:56 (fourteen years ago)
looking forward to stats re englishes babies named wayne
― mookinho (mookieproof), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 01:57 (fourteen years ago)
pique, iniesta, and fabregas are still infederer still in wimbledon too
― mizzell, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 01:59 (fourteen years ago)
Beckham still shot Gredo though, right?
― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 02:46 (fourteen years ago)
Uruguay is like a laid-back Argentina. In the video there's six mate drinkers, two with thermos tucked under arm!
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 04:18 (fourteen years ago)
Cue Beach Boys: "Threeeeee steaks for every guyyyy"
― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 04:30 (fourteen years ago)
Serious talk here: We have to make a pact to keep this thread rolling for the next two desolate days...Matt, Darragh, NV, bring all your bonesaws, I want a full-on England autopsy, I promise not to skim ...let's break down Argentina, Paraguay, Netherlands...ponder the future of Japanese soccer, Portugese defense, penalty alternatives beyond falconry...I fear the coming days, lads & lasses...
― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 04:38 (fourteen years ago)
glad for this ^ sentiment
― 156, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 04:52 (fourteen years ago)
how about I just bitch about Chicago losing in PKs to a fuckin 3rd division team until Friday
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 05:22 (fourteen years ago)
Yes! Real talk.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 05:34 (fourteen years ago)
A rest day? What do I want with a rest day?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 07:14 (fourteen years ago)
VG - I think you underestimate our abilities to keep football threads going. How do you think we made it through an ilx week when there were only Saturday games?
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 08:00 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah but no Rafa in the World Cup :(
― I saw Mommy kissing Santa Cruz (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 08:02 (fourteen years ago)
one (1) maradona and two (2) germans dressed in the same outfits tho
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 08:03 (fourteen years ago)
elano's hurting
― moullet, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 08:08 (fourteen years ago)
http://globoesporte.globo.com/Esportes/foto/0,,36937209-EX,00.jpg
― moullet, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 08:09 (fourteen years ago)
there's no drama, it's mostly just waiting around for them to score. That's kind of how I remember 2008 as well.
I want to see them hounded, and have to respond, in big games that could go either way.
News at 11, IK- Good teams, I mean really good teams- they don't struggle against your Algerias. And they don't really mind if it bothers neutral supporters, I think.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 09:10 (fourteen years ago)
Serious talk here: We have to make a pact to keep this thread rolling for the next two desolate days
guilty lols at how this could even be a worry while my boss is away tbh
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 09:11 (fourteen years ago)
Well I know that xp, obviously it's of a different nature to watching Switzerland play - we're talking ennui rather than tedium here. Still doesn't make it interesting viewing though. Maybe it's just the predictability of it - I perked up a bit when Llorente came on and a cross became possible, rather than just swishing back & forth.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 09:17 (fourteen years ago)
Was the second round unusually predictable? 7/8 group winners won their game with only USA slipping up and Paraguay going close - and they were the two who got to be group winners on only 5 points thanks to the group seeds (England, Italy) imploding. Unseeded Uruguay are somewhat of an anomaly here too but won their group comfotably.
― if, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 09:20 (fourteen years ago)
A cross was possible with Torres on, they just had no fucking wingers on to make one.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 09:23 (fourteen years ago)
it was strange seeing portugal not playing in purple
it was also strange not seeing figo, or deco
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 09:28 (fourteen years ago)
Prediction = Uruguay v Ghana will be the most exciting of the quarters. Spain v Paraguay will be the worst.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 09:28 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, that's the root of my complaint, the mismatches. You need proper contests, and from this round only US-Ghana will be memorable for the right reasons. I mean, they weren't bad at all, just very rarely did these games look like they could go either way.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 09:35 (fourteen years ago)
Has there been a string of bullfighting cliches flung at the Spain. Its just wait wait sting here wait wait sting there until the mortal blow is struck. I actually quite like watching but I have a high boredom threshold.
If Spain met Brazil I don't know how it would go just because I find the Brazilian midfield suspect, reckon the Spanish could overrun Kaka and the like in the middle of the park. Could only see Brazil or Holland beating them, otherwise its 1-0s against the rest of the current field. xp
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 09:35 (fourteen years ago)
I hear Rui Costa and Eusebio also retired ;(
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 09:36 (fourteen years ago)
Was the second round unusually predictable?
Games nearly all went as expected, yeah.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 09:36 (fourteen years ago)
Couldn't call Spain/Brazil, Villa coming in between Maicon and Lucio could maybe do some damage, but this Brazil are so organised and applied that I reckon they'd take Spain's sting away from them.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 09:39 (fourteen years ago)
Holland to run and bluster but fail to break down Brazil, who will then slice them open and win comfortably.
Uruguay v Ghana - high scoring draw where the balance of power swings again and again and Uruguay win in extra time/on penalties.
Argentina Germany could go either way, I have a sneaking suspicion the Germans will nick it.
Paraguay to sit back and be even more defensive than Portugal and Spain to then win 1 or 2-0.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 09:43 (fourteen years ago)
Holland to beat Brazil, actually. I got a feeling.
Uruguay to take Ghana w/out extra time.
Germans to take Argentina, or maybe not I dunno.
Spain to take Paraguay
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 09:47 (fourteen years ago)
Actually an all South American semi-final stage would be kind of fun.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 09:48 (fourteen years ago)
Hilarious to have 3 europeans teams and Ghana tho
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 09:59 (fourteen years ago)
xp that's exactly what I expect
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 10:01 (fourteen years ago)
yah paraguay are gonna rinse spain totes
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 10:04 (fourteen years ago)
paraguay is the new switzerland
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 10:11 (fourteen years ago)
is there some cypriot mediterranean historical emnity i'm missing here
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 10:12 (fourteen years ago)
germany - argentina is the only QF that isn't cut and dried IMO, and even then I expect germany to win
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 10:15 (fourteen years ago)
let's see yr betting slip
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 10:17 (fourteen years ago)
So would you if you looked like Screech from Saved By the Bell
http://www.s181609920.onlinehome.fr/images/screech2.jpg
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 10:22 (fourteen years ago)
u couldn't find one of the later pics with drugs and hookers?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 10:26 (fourteen years ago)
cos frankly i'd prob swap places with him in one of those pics tbrr
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 10:27 (fourteen years ago)
Oh I didn't know about the drugs and hookers, I'm right naive, me
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 10:27 (fourteen years ago)
oh, you simply must look into drugs and hookers, they're wonderful!
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 10:29 (fourteen years ago)
quite positive that Screech is actually a precise 50/50 mix between Elano and Angel di Maria.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 10:31 (fourteen years ago)
And Dobby the house elf.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 10:33 (fourteen years ago)
Ronaldo-
"I am a human being, and like any human being I suffer and I have the right to suffer alone.
Naaaaaaah, half truth at best imo
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 13:25 (fourteen years ago)
"How Soon is Ronaldo?"
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 13:35 (fourteen years ago)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Nigeria's president has suspended his nation's football team from international competition for two years after a poor showing at the World Cup."
!!!!!
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:51 (fourteen years ago)
Hahah can he even do that?
Under Fifa rules, government interference with the national side is strictly forbidden.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:52 (fourteen years ago)
That is the stupidest, most counter-effective thing I've ever read. Poor, Nigeria, you're ruled by clownish bufoons.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:54 (fourteen years ago)
The government can, and FIFA will punish them the same way they have with other countries that have interfered (I think FIFA barred Ethiopia from qualifying for this World Cup, for example).
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:55 (fourteen years ago)
!!! was just coming to post
Ned- they'll be strongly sanctioned by FIFA if there's any political interference in the running of the national team. they'll probably get a two year ban from oh wait
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:55 (fourteen years ago)
No, Ned, and Mr. Jonathan insists, it will be longer than two years before Nigeria get to play anywhere again.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:55 (fourteen years ago)
Dangerous precedent imo- who is Cameron's Minister for Sport?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:56 (fourteen years ago)
Well they won't be playing in the African Nations Cup in two years time, which is mental seeing as they did quite well in it this year. And probably not in a World Cup for at least eight years.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:57 (fourteen years ago)
Cameroon or Cameron?
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:59 (fourteen years ago)
Blimey, Yakubu's miss really did some damage, eh?
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago)
round 3 thred?
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago)
Good idea.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
eh we're only at 2300 odd messages yet lads
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago)
True but it's not the second round anymore...then again we're not at the quarters let...IDENTITY CRISIS.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:34 (fourteen years ago)
Let? Yet. Etc.
Ugh, eff you Nigeria srsly. FIFA should set aside a piece of land and make a halfway house for teams with asshole govts.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago)
i will not make an israel post
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
just rename this thread for post-group/knockout. there are no crazy gifs and its an ok # of posts.
― caek, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
rename thread to 'knockout stages, if it's really bothering peeps, otherwise i think we're ok just now.
That's easily done, hold on...
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago)
And done.
i think a quarter final thread should start on friday
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
I'm liking that the bookmark notification still has the original thread title.
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah it's not anywhere near necessary yet, new thread on Friday I think.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
ugh i HATE the new name
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago)
Complaints complaints.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago)
bad titles good for thread, create more interest.
― mizzell, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago)
well the knockout stages did start ages ago ned. But it'll do til new thread on friday surely
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago)
I humbly submit I was following darraghmac's suggestion for a new title. :-D
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago)
jeez u couldn't just blame it on the jetlag, man?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago)
Change all the names and references around and we're probably replicating the closed-door session the French government had about the team.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago)
WORLD CUP 2010 KNOCKOUT STAGES AND PENALTY KICK ALTERNATIVE SUGGESTION THREAD
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago)
AND POETRY (PS JOHN TERRY WAHT IS IT MAED? A CUNT)
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago)
WORLD CUP 2010 KNOCKOUT STAGES AND FALCONRY PANTS OFF DANCE OFF
― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago)
http://ezpicshare.com/images/102376120.jpg
― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:48 (fourteen years ago)
Pay attention teams-going-home, this is how you play the game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quAU29dgxe0
― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
Javier Aguirre has resigned as Mexico's manager.
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
poor guy, only ends up sorting out other people's messes
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
Caller on TalkShite just said Sergio Ramos is bombing forward for Spain so much cos he's desperate to score and dedicate the goal to someone at home. Is this true?
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago)
to Pedro Almodovar, I heard
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
I heard Javier Bardem
― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 20:52 (fourteen years ago)
and to Patatas Bravas, the best tapa ever invented by man
― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 20:53 (fourteen years ago)
no way, anything with cheese or seafood kills Patatas Bravas
― I saw Mommy kissing Santa Cruz (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago)
pistols at dawn
― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago)
not tried those, what're they like?
― I saw Mommy kissing Santa Cruz (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
M&S have just introduced a small tapas range, inc patatas bravas. 3 for £5. They're killer. I've been toying with giving them their own thread.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago)
xpost pistols at dawn taste like victory...and faintly of patatas bravas NV :)
I enjoy all the fruits of the tapas tree, seafood and cheese included. But if I could marry a food it would be patatas bravas.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago)
lol @ regis asking if lando has ever played for another country at the WC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe5st-9UcI8&feature=player_embedded
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:52 (fourteen years ago)
actually just lol @ regis in general
BDEEP BEEP NEWS FLASH LANDON DONOVAN WOULD LIKE TO PLAY FOR BRAZIL
oh regis. daytime tv's Larry King
― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:56 (fourteen years ago)
man city on the american child is more depressing than i thought it would ever be
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago)
"man city on the american child"
what does this even mean
― fresno's wet (gbx), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago)
the kid kicking the ball around at the end is wearing a man city shirt
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:02 (fourteen years ago)
I had , in my head, a stunning, gritty exposé on the shocking state of US youth helmed by Emmanuael Adebayor and narrated/scripted by Craig Bellamy. Hard-hitting stuff.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 July 2010 08:37 (fourteen years ago)
"an Alan Shearer production"
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 July 2010 10:10 (fourteen years ago)
hansen as the tough cop tryin to make a difference
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 July 2010 10:27 (fourteen years ago)
― sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Thursday, 1 July 2010 10:49 (fourteen years ago)
On the flipside, another reason to love Ghana:
http://www.twitvid.com/DVMG7
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 July 2010 12:32 (fourteen years ago)
Sad to see this thread not bumped every minute or so.
So this is an American sports-guy take on the WC. It has a few "soccerball" moments (having the tournament every 3 years wtf) but it did end up being an entertaining read. I actually like Simmons for his enthusiasm and logic in not falling into the usual blah-blah it's boring traps.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons%2F100701
Warning: impenetrable American sports analogies abound, I didn't even get half of them.
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Thursday, 1 July 2010 17:05 (fourteen years ago)
btw his account of attending the Mexico/US WC qualifier @ Azteca last summer is really good
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Thursday, 1 July 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago)
too busy discussing actually football news on the other thread, sorry.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 1 July 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago)
yeah no one wants to hear my opinions on Lolverpool srsly, I'd revive the MLS thread but no one wants to talk about how the teams cut every Salvadoran in the league yesterday either
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Thursday, 1 July 2010 17:13 (fourteen years ago)
The Azteca looks like the best stadium in the world - we enjoyed that clip of Mexico vs Swarm of Bees many times round our way
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 July 2010 17:13 (fourteen years ago)
might be easier to understand the Simmons piece if you know that he is not so much a sportswriter as the American sports uber-fan
― future American striker hero (lukas), Thursday, 1 July 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
I liked that Simmons piece...he can border a little on the folksy but the enthusiasm comes over well.
So...(looks around) Whatcha all been doing?
Can I just say, the workday sure is LONG without soccer in the morning. Going back to a regular schedule after the final is going to seriously blow.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
As posted by Hurting2 just now, I think Simmons knows more than, say, the team here:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs528.snc3/30000_400721622063_654272063_4912593_6593195_n.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago)
xp been concentrating on englol postmortem and english transfer news/manager changes in the relevant threads.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago)
HAHAHAHAHAHA oh Ned that's priceless.
Vuvuzela flashmob, anyone? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/quirk/vuvuzelas-for-bp?cnn=yes
― VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago)
you should be handsomely rewarded for your extensive work in the lolengland arena, darragh. I'm not saying you will...just that you should, and that your sticktuiveness has not gone unnoticed.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
i have no idea what sticktuitiveness is, but i'm assuming it's an unbecoming trait tbh
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago)
I fudged the spelling...should be sticktoitiveness...you know, stick-to-it. Also known as obsessive-compulsive-disorder /joeks
― VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
heh you should see us go at liverpool fans tbh
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
It's just you, darragh - they're everyone else's second club
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
what is the controversy @ the world cup
― roxymuzak, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
That South Africa is now the continent of South America for a start.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
yes, that is a clearly visible flub ty for explication
― roxymuzak, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
yeah loved liverpool, esp those two nice local boys who play for them until they started to get all continental and homosexual
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPETKUtKYwc
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago)
Guessing it's the disallowed England goal in the Germany game but given they can't get the country right who knows? Maybe it's about vuvuzelas.
― It's a rest day, WE WANT TO SHOP (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
I am gonna say "Gessbra" instead of "Suggest Ban" from now on.
― It's a rest day, WE WANT TO SHOP (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
it was def before that game, and no way would england's disallowed goal make the news in the us.xp
― mizzell, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
yeah i cant imagine it was anything actually related to a match, thats why im wondering
― roxymuzak, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
france?
Vuvuzelas!
― It's a rest day, WE WANT TO SHOP (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago)
Lampard's disallowed goal might not make the news in the US in its own right but the subsequent goal-line technology debate might?
Also a load of blunder-prone refs have just been sent home.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago)
no, that wouldnt make the news, i dont think
possibly not even espn news
― roxymuzak, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago)
It's the disallowed US goal against Slovenia, surely? The one that meant they only topped the group with 5 points instead of topping it with 7.
― Portugal vs Brazil: a game of two Alves (aldo), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago)
Maybe the controversy was that the WGN reporter was wandering around Caracas wondering where the fuck the football was.
― It's a rest day, WE WANT TO SHOP (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago)
That screenshot was made long before the tournament actually started, but I have no idea what they were talking about controversy-wise.
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
Lampard non-goal made the news.Goal-line technology (and the lack thereof) has made even more news.
If it was long before the WC, maybe they were on the whole "South Africans will never succeed at hosting/self-rule" tip? A story that seems to have died, right?
― future American striker hero (lukas), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago)
No, South Africans proved themselves incapable of hosting tournament by allowing armchair fans' viewing to be mildly spoiled by awesome drones
― It's a rest day, WE WANT TO SHOP (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:43 (fourteen years ago)
Did the Lampard controversy in any way drown out the news that England were woeful?
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago)
― roxymuzak, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago)
Donovan has been all over TV the last two days: Letterman, Regis, some AWFUL Fox financial program (he was out on Wall Street? no idea what that was about), the Daily Show... I'm sure there are more. Every single one of them asked him about instant replay etc.
xps no, everyone knows England were woeful
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago)
Argentina's first goal against Mexico then? Clearly wrong and the ref saw it on the big screen after he'd called it wrongly.
― Portugal vs Brazil: a game of two Alves (aldo), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:54 (fourteen years ago)
surely the controversy is the fact that socialism starts with s, satanism starts with s, sodomy starts with s, and soccer starts with s?
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:56 (fourteen years ago)
some of you may think it's an coincidence? i think not
El Tri is the most popular soccer team in this country, the non-call on the offside is also big news.
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago)
Argentina's first goal against Mexico then?
Less so but that's less about goal-line technology than about all the chatter regarding instant replay/fourth official being able to call from television.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago)
Retract this now!
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:18 (fourteen years ago)
penalties have no place in the modern game; after extra time it should go to endurance keepy uppies w/ tabloid journalists yelling draft pillorying headlines creeping gradually closer to the players until they are screaming in their faces.
speaking of which, is ilx buying this two-weeks-till-a-gagging-order-ends rumour about one lion's private life or is it denial via conspiracy theory to avoid despair at the banal truth?
― ogmor, Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:50 (fourteen years ago)
Don't know which one you refer to there.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago)
family affair imo
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:59 (fourteen years ago)
This one? http://m.deadspin.com/5577470/todays-ridiculous-rumor-that-explains-englands-world-cup-collapse
― VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:59 (fourteen years ago)
Though there's probably 5billion to choose from
― VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:00 (fourteen years ago)
more like 3 1/2 billion, so the question remains why he picked one whose sister he was married to
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:08 (fourteen years ago)
For the girl's sake I hope it's all bull twaddle. Eighteen? Cripes. I mean fercryingoutloud.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:42 (fourteen years ago)
apologies if this has been posted alreadyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4nDfJFIafY
― mizzell, Friday, 2 July 2010 01:18 (fourteen years ago)
apologize even if it has (was moment of zen y/day anyway)
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 01:26 (fourteen years ago)
netherlands gets bounced in about 9 hours, right? i just watched de jong's legbreaker on stuart holden again. i love the color orange and all, but srsly, go home dutchies
― 156, Friday, 2 July 2010 06:41 (fourteen years ago)
got my alarm clock set, I'm fired up, ready to go!
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 06:51 (fourteen years ago)
Just over 7 hours til kick off, in fact.
― It's a rest day, WE WANT TO SHOP (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 06:53 (fourteen years ago)
So I guess it's time for a new DN
― Don't mention de Boer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 06:54 (fourteen years ago)
west COAST. just one more early kickoff after this
(was calculating the dejected dutch end of the match)
― 156, Friday, 2 July 2010 06:56 (fourteen years ago)
who do we like, uruguay v ghana? i'm gonna say 2-0 uruguay, mostly cuz suarez kills me. he looks like the dumb but funny friend from university we'd haul around cuz he'd make us laugh
― 156, Friday, 2 July 2010 06:58 (fourteen years ago)
Head says Uruguay but a little bit of me thinks Ghana can go to the semis.
― Don't mention de Boer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 07:01 (fourteen years ago)
I reckon Uruguay will roll Ghana pretty confidently. Even in the Japan snoozefest, they seemed unshakeable. But who knows...Ghana aren't slouches by any means.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 07:27 (fourteen years ago)
Going "camping" tomorrow...though lol totally soft, it's just to my in-laws 5 acre backyard, so I can sneak inside in the morning for socccer on Saturday.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 07:29 (fourteen years ago)
Maybe Ghana will do a South Korea and get through against all odds?
Think this World Cup will go down as a success though - haven't heard any horror stories about fans being robbed/attacked, which was the big concern prior to the tournament.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 2 July 2010 07:34 (fourteen years ago)
basically 0 instances of hooliganism too, pretty impressive
― 156, Friday, 2 July 2010 07:36 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah but if I was a hoolie I'd be weighing up "how much do I want a ruck" with "do I really want to end up in a prison in this country?" and South Africa would do quite badly in that.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 2 July 2010 07:43 (fourteen years ago)
Needs an epic game though, and it's running out of chances. Brazil-Holland or, more likely, tomorrow's big one have to step up. Can't see any game with Spain touching the heights, for reasons which I hitherto droned on about at length.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 08:33 (fourteen years ago)
haven't heard any horror stories about fans being robbed
how quickly one forgets the poor travelling England fans
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Friday, 2 July 2010 08:46 (fourteen years ago)
"We are winning the cup," declares Sarah Obuobi at the bar of The Gold Coast club and restaurant in South Norwood. "I am announcing it here and now: Ghana is winning the World Cup."
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 10:45 (fourteen years ago)
http://unimaps.com/flags-africa/ghana-flag.gif
http://mindinversion.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/blackstar.jpg
― fresno's wet (gbx), Friday, 2 July 2010 10:52 (fourteen years ago)
you ghana win
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Friday, 2 July 2010 10:53 (fourteen years ago)
final exam in a couple hours, lunch, cheering for ghana imo
― fresno's wet (gbx), Friday, 2 July 2010 10:53 (fourteen years ago)
you will have a good day
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 10:54 (fourteen years ago)
just changed my sweepstake prediction to a ghana beating uruguay, that guy from south london convinced me
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 10:55 (fourteen years ago)
u get what u deserve in betting, as in lyfe
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 2 July 2010 11:02 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBM981q51bg&feature=related
Lampard's disallowed goal as recreated by some Tanzanian children. This is great.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 2 July 2010 12:27 (fourteen years ago)
the kid playing capello made me lol
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 12:34 (fourteen years ago)
I like the evil scheming look on the goalkeeper's face.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 2 July 2010 12:36 (fourteen years ago)
this posted yet?
http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae232/daggerlee/image002.jpg
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 12:41 (fourteen years ago)
Looking pretty Messi there.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 12:43 (fourteen years ago)
video ref could issue a red card there
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 2 July 2010 12:44 (fourteen years ago)
btw messi's name is a transliteration for 'hopeless' in chinese. RIP argentina
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 12:48 (fourteen years ago)
I've managed to schedule work so I've seen every game so far except the simultaneous ones, and probably missed only a couple of hours in total - but now my morning's meeting is going to stretch to all day. Damn you Danny Jordaan, the QFs could easily have been Sat/Sun.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 12:52 (fourteen years ago)
brazil-netherlands the prime game of this world cup imo, and likewise i'm missing it for work purposes,
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 2 July 2010 12:59 (fourteen years ago)
ha I lost my job on Wednesday, I now spend my days slobbing around the house. I am the weiner. I think.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 13:06 (fourteen years ago)
brazil/netherlands will be the first game I watch live this world cup. IN YOUR FACE
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 13:08 (fourteen years ago)
One of the few benefits of working at an airport doing early shifts 4.00 am-11.00am is that I've managed to see every game except the simultaneous ones. Of course when an evening game goes to extra time I'm a wreck the next day, but it's a small price to pay.
― Jorge Fucile Jerry (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 13:10 (fourteen years ago)
Netherlands
* 01 Stekelenburg * 02 Van Der Wiel * 03 Heitinga * 04 Mathijsen * 05 Van Bronckhorst Captain * 06 Van Bommel * 08 De Jong * 10 Sneijder * 07 Kuyt * 09 Van Persie * 11 Robben
Brazil
* 01 Julio Cesar * 02 Maicon * 03 Lucio Captain * 04 Juan * 06 Michel Bastos * 13 Daniel * 05 Felipe Melo * 08 Silva * 10 Kaka * 09 Luis Fabiano * 11 Robinho
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 13:14 (fourteen years ago)
no team w/ kuyt deserves to win anything
robben isolated against bastos cld be a thing but rly this shd be brazil
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 13:15 (fourteen years ago)
Holland are playing roughly at the level England *should have* been playing at but Brazil are totally going to take them. 2 or maybe 3 past Holland's dodgy defence.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 2 July 2010 13:18 (fourteen years ago)
Van Bronckhurst. RIP Nederlands
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 13:19 (fourteen years ago)
first thought was 'who the hell is Daniel'. Then I realised.
I can't shake expectations of an uneventful match ending with a comfortable and dull Brazil win, so at least I shouldn't be disappointed.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 13:19 (fourteen years ago)
Holland are playing roughly at the level England *should have* been playing at
a lot lower than where holland shd be playing tho
rvpelia robben vdv sneijder de jong
vdv sneijder de jong
shd never have forsaken 4-3-3
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 13:22 (fourteen years ago)
anyone that plays him on the right, certainly
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 2 July 2010 13:23 (fourteen years ago)
nah anyone that plays him anywhere
this erszatz brazilian 4-2-3-1 negates their technical strengths and causes their flaky yet super talented amids/forwards to turn against each other
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 13:27 (fourteen years ago)
sturridge, obv
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Friday, 2 July 2010 13:36 (fourteen years ago)
ooijer's getting sonned
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 13:53 (fourteen years ago)
surprisingly good segment there on lúcio, just about my favourite player these days
i think some of the poor decision making of his earlier years was cuz he just has so many more options than yr average player
don't fuck up now pls......
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago)
juan + lucio my favorite cb couple in this wc and many before it
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:00 (fourteen years ago)
the dulcet tones of craig burley remind us what we have missed in those football-fallow days
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago)
That's it Robinho, front up to Mark Van Bommel, that will end well.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago)
fuck the netherlands imo
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:05 (fourteen years ago)
HUP HOLLAND HUP
― Born too beguiled (DavidM), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago)
robinho shd be killing van der wiel
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:09 (fourteen years ago)
good prospect that he is
how we looking so far.
van bommel- was he always such a beast? i remember him well from the days jol wanted him above all others, but he was never that barbarian build then surely?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago)
amazing
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago)
wow that was easy
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago)
Terry / King style defending there.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago)
flopping karma imo
Melo, what a pass
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:11 (fourteen years ago)
That looked even more ridiculous on the replay.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:11 (fourteen years ago)
holy shit that pass from melo
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:11 (fourteen years ago)
Right up the center?
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:11 (fourteen years ago)
god the netherlands are assholes
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:15 (fourteen years ago)
That foul was awesome for its pointlessness.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:15 (fourteen years ago)
stve mcnamarara was otm about this game btw
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:16 (fourteen years ago)
God Brazil are such assholes.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago)
y the dutch hate jordan?
how is robinho so awesome and pointless in the same career?
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:18 (fourteen years ago)
why are free kicks so hard to mess up :(
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago)
obviously I meant...easy to mess up
they had two ridiculous and histrionic flops in the first 4 mins of the game, then did that dickish foul a little bit ago
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:20 (fourteen years ago)
brazil is so chill otoh
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:21 (fourteen years ago)
still find americans use of 'flops' funneh
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago)
robben is one of the few diving cunts who i can't seem to hate tbh.
(I only turned on for the goal and haven't really been paying attention since, I am just assuming it was robben.)
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:24 (fourteen years ago)
you should pay attention, this is a great game
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:27 (fourteen years ago)
Like this vuvuzela swarmy noise they're doing.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:28 (fourteen years ago)
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, July 2, 2010 10:22 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
sorry, dives
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:29 (fourteen years ago)
Soo close to being goal of the tournament
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:31 (fourteen years ago)
the numbers on the netherlands' jerseys look like they were made w/ electrical tape
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago)
Alan Green: "You know, in a way, Robinho's a disgrace. He should be apologising to EVERY MANCHESTER CITY FAN."
― William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago)
yeah they've been like this for years, i love it
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago)
brazil should never not be wearing yellow
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:35 (fourteen years ago)
every other team should have to adjust accordingly imo
wait I only caught the end of that, what was that corner?
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago)
haa robben u fkn tard
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago)
was supposed to be this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ0GO6Zziic
― r|t|c, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
Saw Utd score from a trick corner like that which was inexplicably ruled out for some reason.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
the idea is to touch the ball imperceptibly so the next person can run w/ it while the defence still think it's a set play
robben was far too obvious tho
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
ah I see. Good work.
I gotta say that Julio Cesar's curiously fat keeper with giant shorts schtick never gets old for me, it's like it's the 1920s all over again.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
YOU ALL LOOK LIKE JORAN VAN DER SLOOT
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago)
Why can't Brazil wear yellow this game? I don't understand...
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago)
has anyone ever actually pulled that off without the officials missing it?
― r|t|c, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago)
j0rdan van der sl00t
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago)
i think orange and yellow combo would've been too unseemly
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:41 (fourteen years ago)
what a good joke, putting landmines on the netherlands side of the field
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:41 (fourteen years ago)
i like the blue in the brazil away kit.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago)
Yellow for all time
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago)
how many different unis to the goalies usually have?
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago)
FUCKING HELL ROBBEN JUST SHOOT
unis?
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
FFs Robben shoot w/ your right foot for once.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
kits?
that was a fucking laser by maicon
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:47 (fourteen years ago)
Ooh good save
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:47 (fourteen years ago)
looked a save to me
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:47 (fourteen years ago)
Wow
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:47 (fourteen years ago)
just realized that brazil have one dude named kaka and another whose name is one letter away from "maricon"
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago)
goalkeepers have as many kits as the outfield do (i.e. 2 or 3.)
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago)
FFs Robben shoot w/ your right foot for once
will never ever happen
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago)
yeah robben's got speed, strenght balance and can dribble, cross and shoot, but he had to trade in ever using his right foot to make it happen imo
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:49 (fourteen years ago)
fuck robben
he was so infuriating this half
this is exactly what i expected, two 4-3-2-1's largely neutralizing each other in a midfield scrap w/ brazil getting the breaks cuz of their vastly better defenders and more clinical forwards
holland need to get rid of filth like kuyt and go for broke
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:52 (fourteen years ago)
do these guys ever practice with their weaker foot.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:52 (fourteen years ago)
hey real quick
can someone explain to me what netherlands were attempting with that one corner
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:54 (fourteen years ago)
― nakhchivan, Friday, July 2, 2010 10:38 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:57 (fourteen years ago)
make it look like one player was leaving it for another to take, then someone else runs over 'to take it' then runs the ball into/towards the box, leaving the defenders thinking wtf in the hope they panic/foul/fuck up/leave spaces open.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:57 (fourteen years ago)
ha, explained much better than i did!
right ok
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago)
hate this team
cuz obv you can't just run w/ the ball straight from a corner, free kick etc
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago)
when done well the looks on the defending teams faces is priceless.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Friday, 2 July 2010 14:59 (fourteen years ago)
Holland u r retards
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:07 (fourteen years ago)
aside from being a massive jesus freak, kaka seems like a pretty awesome dude imo, i always assumed he was a ronaldo-level ponce
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:08 (fourteen years ago)
c. ronaldo that is
Should be off!
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:09 (fourteen years ago)
whut
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago)
wooooooooooo! game on!
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago)
Get In!!!!!!!!!!!
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago)
Nice!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago)
I can't get enough of Kaka...fucking lovely touch with the ball
AGH Fuck you holland
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago)
no one even touched that huh
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago)
nope
and yet another goalie disaster!
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago)
own goal then?
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago)
LOL, own goal, Brazil.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago)
oh ffs i missed it. you'd better be tasty, cheese toastie.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago)
Off the defender imo
just about
cesar not very impressive either
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago)
robin van injury living up to his name once again ;_;
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago)
i'm hearing some non-b-flat vuvuzelas.. i think they're a 5th above? F#?
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago)
gah it's like robben can't even DRIBBLE with his right foot
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:17 (fourteen years ago)
what's up with dudes helping dudes from the other team up from the ground... would not fly in american sports
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:18 (fourteen years ago)
1. FFS ROBBEN USE YR OTHER FUCKING FOOT
2. HE HAS PLAYED IN THE PREMIERSHIP FOR A GOOD 7 YEARS, HOW DO YOU STILL FUCKING CALL GILBERTO 'SILVA'? HIS NAME IS GILBERTO, HIS SHIRT SAYS GILBERTO, EVERYONE FUCKING CALLS HIM GILBERTO, STOP BEING A CUNT.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:18 (fourteen years ago)
ok samuel silva
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:19 (fourteen years ago)
OK SO NOW GILBERTO MELO LOL SPURS IS ON, YOU CAN REFER TO THEM BY THEIR FULL NAMES, LIKE WHEN YOU COMMENTATE OF THE CHELSEA LEFT WING. CUNTS.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago)
handball?
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago)
could have sworn I saw a handball there
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago)
One of the last vestiges of gentlemanly behavior in the sport... Plus, they play with/against each other on league club sides, ffs... Hello?
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:21 (fourteen years ago)
btw that happens all the time in american sports
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago)
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:18 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/uploads/assets/240x359/players/gilberto/gilberto1.jpg
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago)
xp doesn't really happen in basketball
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago)
How did Kaka miss that?
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago)
turning caps lock off, may turn back on if whoever-this-commentator-is pisses me off again. btw after years i still can't tell who is beglin and who is tyndesley
KAKAAAAAAAAAA... would have been a beaut.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, it's more of an (american) football thing i think
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago)
Xposts ...Good way to get in a "your sister was a whore" too
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago)
nakh what has gilberto melo lol spurs got to do with anything? there is 1 gilberto, this isn't a ronaldo situation
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
happens in american football like...every other play
but people fall down a lot in american football xp
― iatee, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
YES
whooooaaa
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), den 2 juli 2010 17:16 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i read a good trumpet player supposedly can produce three different notes with it, b-flat being i guess what everyone could manage
xp ok wtf is going on???
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
Hahah game REALLY on now.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
:o.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Yes!!!
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
L
YESS!!!!!! Dirk .Kuyt assist. Wesley S, header 2-1 you magnificent bastards
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
brazil looks shook
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
BOOYAHHHHH
― Don't mention de Boer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
Also: fuck
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
THAT's a corner routine!
― Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
Just came back in the room as he headed that in and thought they'd managed to draw level.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
Now hold on ffs
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
that pass w/ the head...unbelievable
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
Seriously think that goal just broke Twitter.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago)
80% convinced Brazil equalise tbh
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago)
gonna be good to brasil actually play with some urgency
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago)
Would trade three months of Van Injury for another Dutch goal right now.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago)
'bounce backability in abundance'
― iatee, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:29 (fourteen years ago)
the writhing on the ground by netherlands if they're leading in the final 5 mins of this game is gonna be beyond epic
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:29 (fourteen years ago)
How about 4?
x-post
(not-Arsenal fan)
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:29 (fourteen years ago)
Oh hello.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahav
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
RED CARD FOR THE GOALSCORER
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
Off!
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
game over now
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
good game melo, nicely done
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
(you have tried to insert a duplicate message. COMEDY EFFECT, SYSTEM, FFS.)
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
What a twat?!
Okay 58% that Brazil equalise
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
THIS COULD BE AN ORANGE YEAR (it's not terry's, it's wesley's.)
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
For those of you not watching this on ITV - you lucky bastards
― Don't mention de Boer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1189/527547551_e2af856c43_b.jpg
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
Robinho calling someone out for diving laughable
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
ROBBEN FOULED BY THE PITCH AGAIN!
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
oh lord it's already starting
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
Brazil imploding now...
― Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
Brazil trying to fail as badly in 30 minutes what it took France three games to do.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
Glad to see that utter moronic idiocy applies outside just England/France/Italy...
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
Brazil down to 9 then 94th minute equalizer
― Don't mention de Boer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
9/2 on a draw at 90mins, good bet y/n?
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago)
this is the best game.
yes, re bet
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago)
but then again it's not my money
Jesus. Not the fucking Dutch.
― StanM, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:34 (fourteen years ago)
what nationality is the ref?
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:34 (fourteen years ago)
If Holland win have they got enough players not suspended to field a team in the Semi's?
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago)
this is 80% down to idiocy by 6 sendings-off in 2 yrs fucking retard cunt felipe melo
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago)
oriental
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago)
Japanese xp
holland haven't been all that rly
ref is japanese
― 156, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago)
yeah what happened in this game, holland have played like shit pretty much the whole time
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago)
they completely blow on the attack
They've been at least as good as they needed to be.
― Don't mention de Boer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago)
the dutch really haven't. i'd like to see them string together some awesome stuff and score another goal to make me think they've got any chance in a final.
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago)
yea melo has always been a cunt of the highest order, glad he chose juve in hindsight
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago)
robin van lolfreekicktaker
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
lolol at all these holland free kicks
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
Van Injury absolute shite free kick
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
van persie has been laser guided on free kicks today
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
I've heard that for the next world cup fifa is going to install another goal 20 feet above the current goal
Lolland
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
― Don't mention de Boer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:36 (6 seconds ago) Bookmark
yeah, cuz of fucking retard cunt felipe melo lowering the level they needed to aim for
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago)
Lol dyao
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago)
Holland have been poor, the goals were gifted to them, but Brazil have been rotten too , especially since the equaliser. This game is over.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago)
Lollol lol Injurlol
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago)
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, July 2, 2010 11:37 AM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark
jock jams: world cup
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago)
Convincing defending from corners there from the Dutch
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago)
dutch have been alright, y'all be trippin'.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:40 (fourteen years ago)
Ha ha !
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:40 (fourteen years ago)
they've been ~gifted~ this xp!
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago)
'composed' is a word you'd use for a team that starts kuyt
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago)
Shit. Should have finished that Wesley
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago)
Disgraceful of the Netherlands to still be keeping the ball and attacking here, if they had any decency they'd boot 2 into their own goal and then walk off.
― Don't mention de Boer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago)
heard bujalski is making a new film...called funny kaka
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago)
Brazil looks as frustrated as all the "big" sides, right now. I hope this turns into the anti-Euro 2004 and favors brave offensive sides.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago)
Real Madrid's, AC Milan's, Blackburn Rovers's Klaas Jan Huntelaar replacing lol van injury.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago)
At least 4 or 5 mins stoppage time I reckon.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago)
Brazil can't score now, Tyldesley will have a stroke.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago)
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Paraguay 3 1 2 0 3 1 +2 5 Slovakia 3 1 1 1 4 5 −1 4 New Zealand 3 0 3 0 2 2 0 3 Italy 3 0 2 1 4 5 −1 2
Oh Dirk wanted him to score a worldie there
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago)
lordy if anyone's gonna beat the whole defence and score don't soil the whole tournament and sport by having it be Kuyt,
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago)
lord what was that
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago)
It's Peter Drury btw
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago)
xposts to myself - aw but you should've had it be Lucio.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago)
come on goblin, now is yr chance to shine
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago)
srsly holland are not an offensive side
they have some amazing technical players tho
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
smh goblin
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
Flashbacks to France '98
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago)
not all great sides are offensive?
but srs put sniejder in paul jewell's derby and they'd look classy
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago)
way to destroy the corner spot, guys.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
omg i slept through my alarm
― max, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
wtf
RIP Waaaaaaahmba football
― Don't mention de Boer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh f u brazil
Felipe too much for Craig Burley resorts to Philip
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
"this is the time for the best player in the world to prove he is the best player in the world". drury spots messi on the pitch?
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
netherlands have been as good in the box today as robbie findley
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
brazil don't deserve shit
holland are p lucky tho
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
Brazil, it's just like watching Bolton.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
lolololo
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
would they have scored there if they have 4-1? 5-1?
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
HAHAHAHAHAH FUCK YOU BRAZIL
― max, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
hahahahahaha that was just fucking stupid from huntelaar. if that dude can play for madrid and milan, my hopes need not yet die.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
Holland just taking the piss there
― Don't mention de Boer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
Yes!!!!!!!
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
kaka cries, jesus didn't save him ;_;
Amazing.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
dunga for fulham
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
NED defeats BRA
dunga out
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
WHAT A DISASTER FOR THE WLOLD CUP
― Don't mention de Boer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
DUNGA FIN!
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
Is that as big a failure as England I wonder?
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
Actually, this is tweetable.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
congratulations NED raggett
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
My country, tis of me.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago)
DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mX69eFrhhg
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago)
So we are now at a 2/5 chance of a first time winner, right? :)
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago)
― max, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:50 (2 minutes ago)
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago)
That Huntelaar break at the end was the funniest thing I've seen on the pitch this World Cup barring England's defence vs Germany
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago)
argentina out against germany = sneidjer for ballon d'or
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago)
No, England failed FIRST.
― Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago)
it would be much easier to enjoy shots of dejected brazilians if they got beat by a team that was even remotely likeable
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago)
so who's gonna be the goat for brazil? felipe melo? dunga?
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago)
condolences to the greatest women's garment in the world
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago)
yeah I gotta say this netherlands team is really dirty xxp
Hahah ESPN cuts to Ruud Gullit clapping and laughing. Who can blame him?
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago)
― max, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago)
― Don't mention de Boer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:51 (43 seconds ago) Bookmark
nuff of this shit
apart from fifa and brazilians nobody is crying for brazil
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago)
http://cdn.24.com/files/Cms/General/d/804/fde075c9f3c046fcbaa1a3d03d4c1892.jpg
― So Messi! (Euler), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago)
Anyone but Holland...way to implode Brazil
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago)
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, July 2, 2010 11:53 AM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark
it's a weird thing to be both really dirty AND perpetual divers
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago)
What are the odds on RvP to be the first player to die in a World Cup final?
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago)
only person ever to be murdered by a blade of grass?
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago)
Attacked by pitch
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago)
I want a holland/spain final
― iatee, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago)
BRA UNDONE
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago)
european powerhouses b winnin'!
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago)
only acceptable result now is an argentina victory punctuated by maradona fucking a prostitute at midfield
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago)
expecting a nyt style section article about this recent european trend in the soccer world cup
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago)
guys
holland - germany final
you KNOW it makes sense
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago)
Go "Europe"!
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago)
WAANZIN!!!
― OMC, Friday, July 2, 2010 3:25 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago)
"It could be Hartlepool, it could be Brazil"
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago)
So happy. I love Holland (at football).
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago)
Don't really get the Netherlands hate but, better yet, Ghana wd have a real chance against them I think.
― Don't mention de Boer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago)
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago)
We could finally settle this High German/Low German thing once and for all.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago)
Marcel Desailly is Ghanian now?
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago)
WTF BRAZIL ARE OUT CAN HARDLY BELIEVE I'M SAYING IT
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago)
Ghana has to get past Uruguay tho'. It will be tight tonight.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago)
Holland Germany final: OPERATION MARKET GARDEN. No parachutes but plenty of diving.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago)
but omg @ Melo - man has to into hiding for...the rest of his life now
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago)
I will miss the babby Jebus also known as Kaka, imo
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago)
holland germany is only awesome is holland wins. besides, who of good conscience can cheer against uruguay?
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago)
I was going to put another Brazilian player in my FFL team this week and my friend said "nah he's suspended, Melo's playing instead, put him in". And I did. Damn.
The last 10mins of that game were so inept from both sides it was laughable. Still, either Holland, Uruguay or (OMG) Ghana in the final. Could be fun.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago)
who of good conscience can cheer against uruguay?
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, July 2, 2010 12:09 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago)
Still, either Holland, Uruguay or (OMG) Ghana in the final. Could be fun.
WILL be fun tbf
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago)
Melo spared an Escobar for assisting Brazil's goal, maybe?
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:12 (fourteen years ago)
lol I actually said that
: (
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago)
this is so exciting. this world cup is goin crazy
― roxymuzak, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago)
Final could still be Uruguay/Paraguay to finally settle ¿quien es mas guay?
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago)
loooool ned
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:15 (fourteen years ago)
Twitter still completely hosed.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago)
Me
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago)
Who of good conscience can cheer against Ghana? I want both sides to win.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, July 2, 2010 12:18 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark
i feel like the site is going to be inoperable w/in a 72 hour period surrounding the final
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago)
¿quien es mas guay?
La pregunta del dia del futbol
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago)
i think kevin prince boateng tips the scales in the favor of uruguay
or is he not even playing
I don't mind either side winning but I am totally cheering for Ghana
― Don't mention de Boer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago)
Not really 'crazy' WC at all - Holland have the best record of the countries that haven't won it, and they possess that erratic flair to get at any team on their day.
Great chance for a final.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago)
I want both sides to win. Plucky underdogs destined (?) to lose in semis, hopefully honorably.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago)
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_03/PrinceBoatengAP_468x309.jpg
I'm in the final, baby!
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago)
of the countries that haven't won it
― roxymuzak, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago)
so glad england are out
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago)
yuh brazil def shd have won today but holland had prob 30% chance so it wasn't some ~huge~ surprise, tho obv it's a huge story as these things go
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago)
Kevin Prince Boateng tips my hand in favor of Urgay
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
I predict that part of the media narrative now will be about plucky underdogs and the two notorious chokers/underachievers of European football having a chance. Then Germany will sturm through and win it all.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago)
soulja boy?
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago)
Germany won't win it. They are mostly an under-21 side in diguise with not near enough strenght at the back.
If Arg don't score more goals than them tomorrow Spain will carve them apart in the SF to win 1-0.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago)
For all that I want Maradonna to fall off a hotel balcony, I have a feeling that Argentina might go all the way.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago)
I'm sticking to my original prediction:
Germany will probably sneak through to the final again, without ever looking either impressive or troubled.― tomofthenest, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 11:19 (3 weeks ago) Bookmark
Germany will probably sneak through to the final again, without ever looking either impressive or troubled.
― tomofthenest, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 11:19 (3 weeks ago) Bookmark
― sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago)
holy shit I just found out
f u brazil good riddance
And, as nv said, I will be cheering for Ghana but am fine with either advancing
― fresno's wet (gbx), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago)
am i imagining things or was melo the first straight red of the tournament?
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago)
Cahill's was a straight red iirc
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago)
For all that I want Maradonna to fall off a hotel balcony
there is, what, a 20% chance that this happens?
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:47 (fourteen years ago)
first Brazilian own goal in 97 World Cup matches
― mizzell, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago)
re straight red - South Africa goalkeeper v Uruguay too?
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago)
90% chance if arg get to the final. </conspiracy>
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago)
</alcohol/cocaine>
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago)
both helluva drugs
― Don't mention de Boer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago)
hey guys what'd I miss?
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago)
The one goal with the thing and the deal.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago)
Twitter still locked up for me, at least.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago)
Oh and some brilliant timing from Stratfor here -- this just arrived in the mail:
Brazil While Argentina’s economy may be self-destructing, its neighbor and rival Brazil is on the rise. Brazil sees itself as the natural leader of South America -- it borders 10 countries, dominates the Atlantic coastline in the region, has an enormous landmass and population, a rising middle class, and a strong and diversified economy. Brazil’s greatest challenge is in developing and connecting its rural interior with the cosmopolitan coast. It has been a long and hard process. But Brazil has been stable enough to make the necessary investments to support its industrial base and avoid falling into a resource-extractive economic pit like many of its South American neighbors. This will become especially important as Brazil prepares to bring its massive pre-salt deepwater offshore oil reserves online. Brazil now has the capacity to reach abroad and promote itself as both a regional leader and major global player – a geopolitical reality that will be put on display when Brazil hosts the next World Cup in 2014. One of the most common observations made about Brazil’s current football team is how it has gradually elevated substance over flair. Brazil’s increasingly focused approach may be lacking in the drama department, but there is little question that this team has had the fundamentals to perform well in the World Cup. Brazilians may also have to adjust to a less dramatic government when Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula Da Silva turns the office over to one of two very uncharismatic presidential contenders in October. Though Lula’s personality helped bring Brazil into the international spotlight, many forget that it was his predecessor, Fernando Henrique Cardoso, who laid the economic fundamentals that made the Brazilian rise possible. Like Brazil’s high-performing football team, the post-Lula Brazil will be all about getting back to business, focusing on maintaining the health of the economy and on managing the incoming pre-salt oil wealth. Though Brazil didn't make it past the quarter-finals in this World Cup, the 2014 event may be Brazil's time to shine, both in football and in geopolitics.
While Argentina’s economy may be self-destructing, its neighbor and rival Brazil is on the rise. Brazil sees itself as the natural leader of South America -- it borders 10 countries, dominates the Atlantic coastline in the region, has an enormous landmass and population, a rising middle class, and a strong and diversified economy. Brazil’s greatest challenge is in developing and connecting its rural interior with the cosmopolitan coast. It has been a long and hard process. But Brazil has been stable enough to make the necessary investments to support its industrial base and avoid falling into a resource-extractive economic pit like many of its South American neighbors. This will become especially important as Brazil prepares to bring its massive pre-salt deepwater offshore oil reserves online. Brazil now has the capacity to reach abroad and promote itself as both a regional leader and major global player – a geopolitical reality that will be put on display when Brazil hosts the next World Cup in 2014.
One of the most common observations made about Brazil’s current football team is how it has gradually elevated substance over flair. Brazil’s increasingly focused approach may be lacking in the drama department, but there is little question that this team has had the fundamentals to perform well in the World Cup.
Brazilians may also have to adjust to a less dramatic government when Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula Da Silva turns the office over to one of two very uncharismatic presidential contenders in October. Though Lula’s personality helped bring Brazil into the international spotlight, many forget that it was his predecessor, Fernando Henrique Cardoso, who laid the economic fundamentals that made the Brazilian rise possible. Like Brazil’s high-performing football team, the post-Lula Brazil will be all about getting back to business, focusing on maintaining the health of the economy and on managing the incoming pre-salt oil wealth. Though Brazil didn't make it past the quarter-finals in this World Cup, the 2014 event may be Brazil's time to shine, both in football and in geopolitics.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 17:11 (fourteen years ago)
Alternately:
Argentina Argentina has everything going for it in the world of geopolitics. The country is endowed with wide swaths of arable land and abundant natural resources, including natural gas. It has one of the most interconnected river transport systems in the world and is a major producer of grains and meat. Argentina’s biggest challenge, however, is leadership. Decades of populist policies, military turnovers and severe economic mismanagement have the country constantly flirting with economic collapse. Buenos Aires is attempting to regain some financial credibility following a debt exchange that has settled the bulk of the country’s historic 2002-02 default, but heavy doubts are hanging on the leadership of the country. Argentina is far more likely to use its renewed access to the international credit market to incur more debt in financing its populist policies than to undergo the harsh and politically unpalatable austerity measures necessary to address the issues that led Argentina to default in the first place. In football as in geopolitics, Argentina has everything going for it. The team has a premiere group of strikers and tremendous offensive depth. Argentina didn’t face tough opposition in the first round of the World Cup. But even here, the team faces questions about leadership. Lack of organization, questionable player selections and stubbornness in decision-making are criticisms often directed at Argentina’s coach and soccer legend Diego Maradona. Argentina is a top pick for many in this World Cup, but it remains to be seen whether Maradona has what it takes to lead his team to victory.
Argentina has everything going for it in the world of geopolitics. The country is endowed with wide swaths of arable land and abundant natural resources, including natural gas. It has one of the most interconnected river transport systems in the world and is a major producer of grains and meat. Argentina’s biggest challenge, however, is leadership. Decades of populist policies, military turnovers and severe economic mismanagement have the country constantly flirting with economic collapse. Buenos Aires is attempting to regain some financial credibility following a debt exchange that has settled the bulk of the country’s historic 2002-02 default, but heavy doubts are hanging on the leadership of the country. Argentina is far more likely to use its renewed access to the international credit market to incur more debt in financing its populist policies than to undergo the harsh and politically unpalatable austerity measures necessary to address the issues that led Argentina to default in the first place.
In football as in geopolitics, Argentina has everything going for it. The team has a premiere group of strikers and tremendous offensive depth. Argentina didn’t face tough opposition in the first round of the World Cup. But even here, the team faces questions about leadership. Lack of organization, questionable player selections and stubbornness in decision-making are criticisms often directed at Argentina’s coach and soccer legend Diego Maradona. Argentina is a top pick for many in this World Cup, but it remains to be seen whether Maradona has what it takes to lead his team to victory.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 17:12 (fourteen years ago)
but it remains to be seen whether Maradona has what it takes enough blow to lead his team to victory.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 17:27 (fourteen years ago)
if all the south effricans I worked with in CO are to be believed: he's SOL. blow is not easy come by outside the americas
― fresno's wet (gbx), Friday, 2 July 2010 17:29 (fourteen years ago)
Didn't they just confiscate a couple tons in West Africa heading to Europe? Someone told me it would be quite a blow to Kate Moss's summer.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 17:34 (fourteen years ago)
oh maybe! I just remember talking to coked up Aussies/south Africans on the way to work (at like 7am) and they were thrilled, just thrilled, that the coke was so much cheaper/better in the states than back home
― fresno's wet (gbx), Friday, 2 July 2010 17:36 (fourteen years ago)
Gambia
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago)
that the coke was so much cheaper/better in the states than back home
USA! USA! USA!
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago)
"...Britain's Serious Organized Crime Agency (SOCA)..."
Is their a frivolously organized crime agency? A dis-organized crime agency?
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 17:41 (fourteen years ago)
TOTALLY organized crime agency
― fresno's wet (gbx), Friday, 2 July 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago)
just like the most organized crime agency ever!
― fresno's wet (gbx), Friday, 2 July 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago)
Dudes, we are seriously organized. Like, totally.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago)
Hugely disappointed to find no Crank Dat (Ghana Boy) on Youtube. Sort it out, Black Stars
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 2 July 2010 17:57 (fourteen years ago)
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07I25SDdWd2XV/610x.jpg
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/08rk1TO3lH5Ml/610x.jpg
She's ready.
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00Sj0fCh1B3bv/610x.jpg
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 18:20 (fourteen years ago)
Kinda want to throttle the ESPN commentators right now
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 18:23 (fourteen years ago)
Forlan's looking ready to psych himself up and out simultaneously.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago)
Ugh yes yes it's a small world after all SHUT UP
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
Kinda want to throttle the ESPN ITV commentators right now
― if, Friday, 2 July 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
Asshole compatriot at work is all, "I hope Ghana get stomped!" Wtf USA fan? Don't you want the team that put us out to be of quality or are you just some small minded cuntwhistle?
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
guessing the latter, imo
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago)
the latter
― fresno's wet (gbx), Friday, 2 July 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago)
So did Puccini do the Uruguayan anthem?
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 18:27 (fourteen years ago)
Uruguay's anthem kind of rad
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 18:27 (fourteen years ago)
They forgo the ballet portion for sporting matches
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago)
People who put malicious jingoism ahead of love of sport should be horsewhipped. MYKUL SMASH!
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago)
I actually feel like I want Uruguay to go through kinda but not because of anything Ghana has done.
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 2 July 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago)
Kind of a pity the idea of national anthems were standardized in the nineteenth century; if it was now we could have some insane hip-hop mixes or techno overload or something.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago)
I mean Uruguay has been v consistent and fun to watch thus far aside from the 0-0 imo. xp
The theme of the Anthem is supposedly taken from a Donizetti opera (/wiki)
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago)
love of sport can encompass that kind of extreme emotional reaction too cant it?
i mean when the red sox beat the yankees i dont want the red sox to win the world series
i want them all to be murdered
― max, Friday, 2 July 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago)
I'm down with whomever wins - my teams are all gone and I'm rooting for fun.
airport bar watching, here we go!
― 156, Friday, 2 July 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago)
Psyched for this
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago)
i just want a good game out of this but probably would be a little happier if ghana go through as first african team ever
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 18:33 (fourteen years ago)
Ghana be a bunfight
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 18:33 (fourteen years ago)
telemundo announcers are so awesome
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
Max, I totally get that (Man U vs. Chelsea - "Who are you roooting for?" "A meteorite.") but there's the other side too - I don't want to be the fan that prefers winning to the fan that wants to win fairly and sportingly and well. Anybody can asswipe their way to victory - the proud are gentlemanly about it and there's nothing more irksome.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
Pray for golazo. xp
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 2 July 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
ITV commentators STFU. No No Clive it's impossible that a team that gets to the q-finals might actually win the match. They most be dreaming. Hey, just turn up and lose.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago)
*must*
at a bar with a bunch of non Ghanaian africans and can confirm that they are supporting this team. just FYI to ogmor or w/e that dudes name is
― fresno's wet (gbx), Friday, 2 July 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago)
lies
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago)
cedar-riverside yalllllll
― fresno's wet (gbx), Friday, 2 July 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago)
yeah big Somali population in mpls/st paul iirc
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 2 July 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago)
ITV commentators STFU
Yeah, Ghana's enthusiasm for attacking football /= 'natural ability to want to go forward' wtf
― Adge Cutler & the Özils (NickB), Friday, 2 July 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago)
and Ethiopian and Eritrean and all kinds of w africans
― fresno's wet (gbx), Friday, 2 July 2010 18:47 (fourteen years ago)
the afrcan restaurants down the street are PACKED
― fresno's wet (gbx), Friday, 2 July 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
who the fuck is ogmor?
― ears are wounds, Friday, 2 July 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago)
Love the way that Suarez almost always manages to get his shot off.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
ghana inches wide twice in a row
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
omg did john harkes just say "bghana bghana"
Needs an epic game though, and it's running out of chances. Brazil-Holland or, more likely, tomorrow's big one have to step up. Can't see any game with Spain touching the heights, for reasons which I hitherto droned on about at length.― Ismael Klata, Friday, July 2, 2010 8:33 AM (10 hours ago)
― Ismael Klata, Friday, July 2, 2010 8:33 AM (10 hours ago)
Just caught up - that'll do nicely, thank you!
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
Also, cursing myself for forgetting to run the quickfire 'Who *will* win the world cup?' poll yesterday. If I do it now, can you all make like Brazil are still in?
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
oh was it you?
― fresno's wet (gbx), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
Think this has "a series of squandered Ghanaian chances and last-minute Forlan winner" written all over it :/
― Stevie T, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
jeeeeeez, ouch.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago)
fucks sake the crowd are booing him
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago)
Nothing I've ever seen in the Premiership has led me to believe that Kevin P-B is capable of the kind of performances he's produced in this World Cup.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
up again, thank fuck
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
ghana breaking down the urugayan defence here huh
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago)
more bicycle kicks plz
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
Eeh, that fall had me cowering away more than Mark Webber's smash on Sunday.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
Okay, he's been good but he's still not THAT good.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
love how every ghana attack just seems like 3 dudes somehow holding their own against 16 hassled-looking uruguayans
― r|t|c, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago)
HAHAHAHAHAH FUCK YOU BRAZIL― max, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:50 (2 minutes ago)― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:52 (3 hours ago)
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:52 (3 hours ago)
^^^^
You'd need to have a heart of stone not to laugh at Brazil not making it to the semis.
― Born too beguiled (DavidM), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago)
whoa
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago)
Oh!
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago)
OM G
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago)
77!
Come On!
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
:0
― Stevie T, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
awwww
you gotta love em
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
The swerve on that!
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
):
― moullet, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
Love with goalie's that just half a step the wrong way and it's all over.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago)
that is why fat goalies are so bad and hated
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago)
Missed it. I was just loading up the fridge with my online shopping (ordered from Sainsbury's specifically so I wouldn't have to go out this evening) when I suddenly heard all my downstairs neighbours screaming. I thought maybe there was a rat or something, but my wife worked out there must have been a goal.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:23 (fourteen years ago)
My neighbours are Nigerian, fwiw, so that backs up the 'all Africa is supporting Ghana' argument.
that was awesome btw
― my funny mommy hole, sweet funny mommy hole (HI DERE), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:23 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah probably :). I guess what I was trying to say the other night was more out of frustration with a particular patronising brand of commentary prevalent on British television atm, particular on ITV. From your posts today I'm guessing you are in the US, so maybe we had a slightly different frame of reference?
But anyway wow...Ghanaian goal as I type.
― ears are wounds, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago)
Fat goalies hated? Surely some mistake.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40719000/jpg/_40719847_goalie300220_bfi.jpg
― Stevie T, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah Darragh loves Paul Robinson I seem to recall.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago)
super paddy kenny all day long imo
― r|t|c, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:26 (fourteen years ago)
Well my friend's husband is Nigerian and he and his mates were willing Ghana to go out, so eh, I don't know really.
― ears are wounds, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
Ridiculous substitution: they've run out of pancetta slices and have given me pancetta cubes. How am I supposed to make Jamie Oliver's haddock wrapped in pancetta with a load of cubes? This is what happens if you don't go to the supermarket yourself.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
That ball cuts like he's sliced it then hooks back.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, July 2, 2010 7:27 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark
worst substitution since Riquelme got the hook in Germany q-final in 2006 tbf.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago)
bamos bamos U-RU-GUAY!!! bamos bamos U-RU-GUAY!!! bamos bamos U-RU-GUAY!!!
― moullet, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:32 (fourteen years ago)
ITV bedsheet report alert...
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago)
fish cakes w/ the pancetta in? or just do the fish as regular with pancetta/potato sautee
don't like the look of the og recipe tbh
― r|t|c, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago)
"bamos"?
― my funny mommy hole, sweet funny mommy hole (HI DERE), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago)
I mean, I know that's what it sounds like, but really?
Blimey. Cracking start to the half.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
If Ned Boulting is larking around in Ghana does that mean he's not going to the Tour de France this year?
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago)
handball
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago)
Ah. Just remembered I rewound my sky plus to see the goal I missed earlier so I'm four minutes behind. I was wondering what the fuck these 'cracking start' and 'handball' referred to seeing as they weren't even playing.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago)
Aah there's the Boateng from the Prem.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago)
whlooaoafdsadsafadf
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
mmmmm nice
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
Boooo
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
brilliant goal
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
waaaaaaaaao
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
All gone quiet downstairs.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
Ooh Diego. One step the wrong way AGAIN.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
KEeper error I say
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
forlan looks like the next fabio model
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
Victorino rolling around there.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
I think both teams have got into 'attack' mode and kinda forgotten tactics for the minute. Long may it continue.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
that was a beautiful goal
― my funny mommy hole, sweet funny mommy hole (HI DERE), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
almost choked on me Creme Egg with that Forlan goal.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
why does forlan hate the africa?
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
Oh Diego. I can't help reflecting on what might have been.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
Brown the pancetta cubes in LOADS of olive oil, then fry with chopped leek and chopped mushrooms for about six minutes. Serve scooped up in giant pasta shells. Job done.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
Have the feeling that Uruguay might be more ruthless on the break than Ghana.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
I have none of those ingredients apart from the olive oil and a trip to the supermarket now would be an admission of defeat.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago)
if this results in a goal..
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago)
And that's why back passes must always be directed wide of goal.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
Bad miss
― ears are wounds, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
What a cross that was.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
This is ridiculously open for a world cup quarter final with the score level
― ears are wounds, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, not as difficult as the commentators making out imoxp
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
I'd have given a penalty for that
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago)
yep, KPB didn't do himself any favours with the way he went down
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
Anybody can asswipe their way to victory
afaik this is not strictly true. Many have tried, but only a few etc.
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
This is what football is supposed to be like, imo, not turgid Spain v Portugal type games.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
(I know England v Algeria was much worse, but no one's going to hold that up as an excellent display, whereas I bet many people were thrilled by Spain v Portugal - the weirdoes)
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago)
Many have tried, but only a few etc
I just mean it's a 'safe' mentality to train for and play...
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago)
Who's going to win this then? I have no idea. Probably Uruguay - better forwards.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago)
Wtf, Spain vs. Portugal was good fun.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
yeah but uruguay without lugano not that convincing either xp
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
Ghana look good going forward but they lack finishing
xxxxxp Yah sure, was only quibbling with the literal sense of it.
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago)
Is this ref trying to give out more cards to one team than the Japanese guy earlier?
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
I keep thinking Uruguay, but based on the actual game I'm not sure why. Both will get at least one good chance before the end but I feel that Uruguay more likely to take theirs. Then again I have more faith in the Ghana keeper making a big save than his opposite number.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
whoever said they love that suarez always gets his shot away no matter what otm
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
re: openness of the game
yeah I know I wasn't complaining!
― ears are wounds, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
Loved that slow-mo of Suarez's head caressing the ball - every other replay shows it horribly mistimed, or coming off the player's shoulder or something
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
Delap-esque throw-in,there. Even wiped the ball down first.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago)
Should've buried that there.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
can this not go to et, i've got to go to work :(
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
In the Cup of Nations Ghana had a sub called Gedo who scored in 3 games when he came off the bench including the final but he doesn't appear to be in the squad for some reason. Scratches head.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
Gedo's Egyptian, that might be why.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
Pan-African solidarity^^^^
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago)
did the ITV commentator just say that Ghana haven't scored more than one goal in their last seven internationals? Did he say 'zero' and I misheard him?
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
Ha. Can't believe I got them confused. I watched that tournament as well. lolololxp to James M
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
Ole Ghana Solskjaer needed here
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
Going to penalties....
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago)
Thought K Prince Boateng was a massive shit in an earlier match, quite like him today, idkw?
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago)
He's a witless thug
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago)
I hope Ghana get lucky on penalties but they no longer look like a side likely to score in overtime.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago)
Hasn't been a good first touch for about twenty mins. De Subjectivisten will be loving this.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago)
Seems like a somewhat classier witless thug today though? As I said, idk.
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago)
KPB is of a certain breed of players who wasted Spurs a lot of face and money and so I cannot help but <3 him forever.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago)
He does look a little less witless than usual today
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago)
Pen imo
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
King Pato Boy
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
pen def
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
that is 2 penalties uruguay should have had now
― ears are wounds, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago)
Suarez looks hella sharp, actually.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago)
Penalties will be hilarious.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago)
really don't want penalties
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:46 (fourteen years ago)
ARRIBA URUGUAY NOMAÁAAAAAA!!!!
― moullet, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:46 (fourteen years ago)
CARAJO URUGUAY CARAJO!!!DARLE LA VUELTA!! DARLE LA VUELTA!!!
por el bien del Football vamo adelante La Celeste!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― moullet, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
what happened to the quarter final thread btw
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
I'll be astonished if either Suarez or Forlan miss their pens should it get that far.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:53 (fourteen years ago)
He needed to do a Bergkamp there. Easier said then done mind.
That control from Gyan.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago)
Tyldesley + Beglin <3 Scotti 4eva.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:56 (fourteen years ago)
isn't Kingson the more likely penalty hero out of the two goalies though?
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago)
OH MY GOD
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
whoa whoa whoa
― r|t|c, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
QTF LOL WUT
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
omfg
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
o shit.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
oH WOW
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
Fuck! Pressure!!
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
Suarez's £30m move to someone scuppered. :'(
AAAAAAAAAAh.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
red card for handball on the line in added time in extra time
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
holy shit @ this
― johnny crunch, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
blatant blatant handball by Suarez after a scramble in front of goal, red card, penalty for Ghana IS MISSED
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
HOLY FUCKING
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LOL
― r|t|c, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
o dear
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
and he's hit the bar
oh what the hell gyan. great way to warm up for the pens
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
HOLY FUCK
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
i just died
Oh man
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
FUCK ME WHAT A GAME
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
So that handball is as much cheating as anything ever right?
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
― ears are wounds, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago)
oh man that was hilarious
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago)
justice for an unfair free kick perhaps but DAMN
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago)
Whatthewowzomg
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago)
Oh wow, best ending of a game.
― State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago)
and that guy is the only goal scorer they got
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago)
I mean I get why he did it. But no disadvantage in being down to 10.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago)
suarez will now miss semis or final as well?
― ears are wounds, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago)
Loved the keeper thanking the crossbar.
― Stevie T, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago)
exactly. it was not a freekick
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago)
Great call by the ref btw - I didn't see the handball at all (and that's Uruguay screwed if they win it now)
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago)
that handball was some bullshit imo
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago)
Please tell me the penalites haven't started yet. It would be typical of ITV to miss them.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago)
srsssssly this is fucking great
hoping uruguay
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago)
come on GHANA
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago)
Think Suarez could have headed or even chested the shot away.
― Stevie T, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago)
linesman spotted the handball i think
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago)
Want Ghana after that bullshit ending.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago)
still, uruguay better shooters, ghana better keeper imo
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago)
Think Suarez could have headed or even chested the shot away.― Stevie T, Friday, July 2, 2010 10:06 PM (1 second ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Stevie T, Friday, July 2, 2010 10:06 PM (1 second ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i guess he wanted to be sure
handballs like that are 100% part of the game - stfu n00b haters
― r|t|c, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago)
I should despise Suarez celebrating ... but I don't, I love it more than anything
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago)
Crazy goddamn game
― Adge Cutler & the Özils (NickB), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago)
no suarez in semis tho ;_;
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago)
ghana better keeper imo
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:06 (10 seconds ago) Bookmark
nah
smithy, it shouldn't have happened because it was not a free kick in the first place.
I dont care who wins.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah not a n00b so whatever.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago)
that was a dope penalty imo
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago)
lol desailly
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago)
does missing that kick kill ghana?
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:08 (fourteen years ago)
suarez greatest man to ever live
― moullet, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:08 (fourteen years ago)
This game.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:08 (fourteen years ago)
LOOK IN ACCRA THEY ARE WETTING THE BEDSHEETS, THE FIRST ELECTRICALLY POWERED SHOOT OUT EVER IN AFRICA
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:09 (fourteen years ago)
Need an onimo predictathon
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:09 (fourteen years ago)
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:08 (17 seconds ago)
not necessarily
asamoah gyan has always been a shit finisher but generally ghana are mentally strong
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:09 (fourteen years ago)
ballsy
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago)
cant breathe
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago)
wow that is class from gyan
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago)
pretty ballsy strike from gyan to hit it high after the last kick
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago)
flair pen
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago)
from the 'ghanian stuart pearce'
oof always think short run ups end up in a miss - nice work gyan
― r|t|c, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago)
damn another sick kick
oh ffs "the Ghananian stuart pearce" fuck off arsehole english commentators
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago)
Respect to the Ghanian who had just missed in the 123rd minute basically hitting the same high shot in the shoot out.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago)
shut up beglin seriously, IT WENT IN
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago)
pwns the camera
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago)
Who will be the Ghanian Chris Waddle?
― Adge Cutler & the Özils (NickB), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago)
hehe there's no doubt who the crowd are supporting
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago)
idiot
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago)
o John.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago)
that was poor
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago)
Pantsed.
― Stevie T, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago)
horrible to see
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago)
shit pen
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago)
wtf was he he thinking?
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago)
lord that was awful
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago)
Knew that wasn't going in.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago)
i hate those 1 step run ups
pathetic premiership quality
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago)
looked robotic
― johnny crunch, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago)
o Maxi.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago)
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago)
oh come on
there's your Waddle
WTF
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago)
haha "wAAAy over"
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago)
that really was dreadful ;_; x2
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago)
theres the uruguyan chris waddle
Penalolities
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago)
LOL GETS HIS TIPS FROM RVP
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago)
jubalani!!!!
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago)
two really dire penalties
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago)
3
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago)
o h noes
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago)
rode their luck too far.
another poor one
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago)
that was a great save
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago)
Have had 9 heartattacks so far
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
4 great pens then 3 shit ones
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
look at this fucker stalking up to the spot
― r|t|c, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
LOL bastard
hahaha
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
haha cheeky devil
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
lovely
ok nice one
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
ballsyx100
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
oh what a dick more of a chip
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
― Vuvuzilla (suzy), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
a guy that looks like abreu would pop it like that
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
Thrash metal dude wins it
― Adge Cutler & the Özils (NickB), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago)
how did ghana not win this
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago)
broek hart
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago)
Poor Ghana...what a fucking game that was awesome
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago)
Suarez a bit of a hero now in retrospect?
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago)
Pens are some cruel shit
Chiles jinxed it
― ears are wounds, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago)
I hated Uruguay for 86 then knocking us out in 90 because of a 93rd min winner in their game, had they drawn it, scotland would have been through, but they have played some nice football in 2010 and the game against Holland they hopefully wont be knackered for.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago)
Awesome game though. I like Uruguay. Glad they went through.
Shit, massively conflicted over Suarez here - never 'twas a cheat more noble
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago)
<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3
― moullet, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago)
As a Liverpool fan it feels kind of treacherous, but I kind of love Forlan.
― Stevie T, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago)
it was an instinctive handball
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago)
That chip is unbelievable. To win a shootout. Wow.
― ears are wounds, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago)
Gyan is not having a good time.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago)
Love forlan
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago)
Yes, I love Forlan too.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago)
Let poor Gyan have a good cry now - he'll feel better later
― Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago)
Fuck off, Chiles. The dude took a calculated gamble, got sent off and now misses the semi. Gyan should have finished it.
― ears are wounds, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago)
^^^
― r|t|c, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago)
Didn't really have time to calculate imo, it was just pure instinctive cheating
― Adge Cutler & the Özils (NickB), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago)
Hate Ghana and itv's horrible biase throughout. Not even a mention of Uruguay at the end plus has anyone wondered why ghana number one fan desailly never played for them?
All that and no replay of the inevitable dive before the fk that led to the handball, or ghana's diving in this and the USA game.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago)
Better to cheat frankly, get sent off and hope for a miss and then win on penalties? Somebody's very blessed.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago)
i don't see how that's cheating? it's certainly just a calculated risk
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago)
I WANT THAT GIF ON SUAREZ CRYING THEN LOLING @ GYAN
― moullet, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago)
And booing throughout the pens, what a joyous bunch the ghana fans are.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago)
^otm re: chiles
Maradona got away with punching the ball in for a goal. Suarez got sent off with punching the ball away from his own goal and gave away a penalty. The two situations aren't even remotely comparable. Might as well say "Well, we might be moaning about Lampard's shot being over the line, but there was some controversy here when Uruguay won a throw when the ball appeared to have come off one of their own players."
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago)
feel like cheating implies something that you can't get caught for
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago)
or didn't maybe
I think we can all agree that we have more sympathy for Gyan than we did for John Terry in the champs league final.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago)
i mean, defenders trip players all the time so they don't have a straight run at the goal, not sure how that's any more or less cheating
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago)
Most cheating is a calculated risk. Henry handball, Maradona etc It's just football it just seems that certain cheating is seen as 'worst thing ever' and some is shrugged off and which camp it falls into seems kinda random to me.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago)
and fuck itv commentators esp chiles NO MENTION OF THE FACT IT WAS NOT A FREEKICK
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago)
cheating? u guys totally crazy srlsy
― moullet, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago)
And no Uruguay chances in the highlights...they obv had none then...fuck off itv.
"might not have been a free kick"
Well done guys
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago)
hope that situation happens to west brom one day in chiles lifetime - see whos the cheat then
― r|t|c, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago)
cheating is more like paying off refs imo
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:29 (fourteen years ago)
ronan, i can't think of and crowd that wouldn't boo during opposition penalties on a shootout. it happens every fucking time.
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:29 (fourteen years ago)
Why are Ghana treated as underdogs vs Uruguay? Anyone?
I mean aren't there 3m ppl in Uruguay?
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:29 (fourteen years ago)
No it doesn't...
guy deliberately got himself sent off to prevent a goal. there is a punishment for that in law that applies to both sides. it was applied. that is not cheating.
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago)
didn't tyldesley describe uruguay as 'pantomine villians' at the beginning? cuz obv it was a uruguayan who disallowed lampard's goal
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago)
Kind of feel like it's not cheating if you get caught, which doesn't really make sense
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago)
uruguay have won the world cup twice and have better players (and hence won the recent game against ghana that took place about 20 minutes ago) = ghana underdogs
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago)
No. He stopped a goal. He couldn't be sure the ref would spot it could he. He was prepared for the punishment sure I agree with that.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago)
ITV cunningly fail to show whether or not it actually was a free kick in their post-match analysis to aid their ridiculous Ghana bias.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago)
ahh ffs the penny drops in my head. That explains so so much. God It's really bad when I'd rather have gerry mcnee and archie mcpherson commentating than these arseholes.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago)
personally i had nothing but contempt for uruguay and their national team until suarez cheated so well done itv capturing the mood of the nation imo
― r|t|c, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:33 (fourteen years ago)
it wouldn't have been cheating if he HADN'T got caught either, it would've just been a fuck up by the refs
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:33 (fourteen years ago)
uruguay have won the world cup twice
Bit like making Preston North End favourites
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago)
jesus christ guys, lol tyldsley, etc. but itv really aren't that bad. you should try watching football anywhere else in the world some time.
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago)
Ghana = Africans = forever cute underdogs. Don't see what's so hard to get about this. NB doesn't apply to north Africans
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago)
Chris otm, arguably Uruguay lost Suarez purely due to a Ghana player diving...
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:36 (fourteen years ago)
xxp, right, and i didn't get the impression that uruguay were overwhelming favourites with anyone, but apparently its a problem that ghana were significant underdogs (not to anyone i read/heard, but whatevs), so i was pointing out why expecting urugay to win would not be delusional in this situation.
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:36 (fourteen years ago)
poor suarez, that dive on him just came out of nowhere ;_;
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:37 (fourteen years ago)
So whoever wins isn't underdog? Uruguay won the WC years and years ago. The pro Ghana thing is just patronising rubbish...
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:38 (fourteen years ago)
ghana were ≈ 3/1 beforehand
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:38 (fourteen years ago)
just got back from pub. john mensah comes out of this with least credit. most telegraphed miss EVER.
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:38 (fourteen years ago)
also y'are gonna LOVE me for what I'm about to do
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago)
for me, the pro-ghana thing is wanting a new team (i.e. an underdog in some sense) to do well because it's good for football. probably i'm just racist.
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago)
Maybe Ghana were the underdogs 'cos they are the youngest squad at World Cup and their best player is injured perhaps.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago)
if you're gonna break out the 'Suarez wasn't cheating' thing, Louis, I got your back. Kind of.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago)
caek has really come off as a racist itt
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago)
iirc the team without the circa £50m's worth of top level strikers is the underdog yes
― r|t|c, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago)
Hold on, part of Spain is in Africa and technically the Canary Islands are part of Africa too. Let's see the broadcasters switch their allegiances there now.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago)
sorry jords. : (
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:42 (fourteen years ago)
(how is that cheating if he got sent off and they got a penalty?)― Just got offed, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:20 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink(i mean it's not like he's defied the game of football itself by handling the ball on the line, just that the appropriate response has been taken. it's not cheating, he's free to make that choice!)― Just got offed, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:21 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkfouls are cheating.― ken c, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:24 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkpeople are free to make the choice of cheating― ken c, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:24 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkit's only cheating if it goes unpunished (or insufficiently punished)― Just got offed, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:25 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkactually ignore that last posts i meanpeople are free to make the choice of being a cheating hun bastard― ken c, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:25 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkreason into football won't go― blueski, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:26 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkcheat: to deprive of something valuable by the use of deceit or fraudCeltic were deprived of a goal due to Cuellar's actions. QED.― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:27 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinklj's wife (god forbid): "omg i can't believe you cheated on me"lj: "no i didn't"lj's wife: "dude i caught you engaging in poppage with that girl"lj: "exactly therefore it's not cheating"― ken c, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:28 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkfailed cheating: http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=vl3HnU0HOhkCeltic were deprived of a goal because Nakamura couldn't beat the opposition. They were advantaged a penalty and a red card because of the manner in which Rangers remained unbreached.― Just got offed, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:30 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkIf Cuellar had made some attempt to conceal the fact he'd handled it, that would have been attempted cheating. Like Mr. Taylor up there.― Just got offed, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:31 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkthis is like so profound― ken c, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:31 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkRoy Carroll: cheat.― Just got offed, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:31 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkJagger: I, like at least two other dudes who post to the football threads, work as a sub-editor. You're wrong.― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:32 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkNo, Celtic were deprived of a goal because Cuellar broke the rules. (And because Scott McDonald takes a shite penalty) Nakamura beat everyone he was meant to and allowed to, Cuellar broke the rule which should have allowed Naka's shot to sail over his head into the goal as intended.xpost to LJ― ailsa, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:33 (1 year ago) jagger: i work at a hospital, you're wrong― ken c, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:33 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkhttp://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1550415.eceGreat comments box under this one.― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:35 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkLJ you know what rules are, right? You know people often refer to breaking rules as cheating? Being an outfield player and using your hands to stop the ball is breaking the rules and therefore cheating. Betty denied Celtic a goal and gained his team the opportunity of saving another shot, the penalty.Pointless discussion really though, 'cause 3 in a row giruy etc :)a big red card stuck up his arse^that bit cracked me up.― onimo, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:36 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkThe definition of "cheat" is subjective, not set in Chambers' stone. When Phil Neville did this in the last minute of the Merseyside Derby, the general opinion was that he'd done the right thing and sacrificed himself for a possiblly saved penalty. Not that he'd cheated. But I guess I'm wrong as usual.― Just got offed, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:38 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkBBC called, they want to know when you can start.― blueski, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:40 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkIf people want too prey do it before or after the game!― onimo, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:40 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkLee Dixon had better start singing or he's on his way out.― blueski, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:40 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkdefinitions by definition cannot be subjective― ken c, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:42 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkwhether one should condone cheating or not is up to themselves.― ken c, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:44 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkdidn't Stephen Taylor get away with that exact move on a subsequent occasion?Louis, you are insane― MPx4A, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:48 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkxpost so get tae fuck.now that that matter's settled.. i think "player of the year, now he's a dick" is going to be my first album title― ken c, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:48 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkLouis, he got sent off FOR CHEATING. This is idiotic.― Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 14:21 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkit's only cheating if it goes unpunished (or insufficiently punished)Other people who were caught, punished and therefore didn't cheat: Dwain Chambers, Marion Jones, Floyd Landis.― onimo, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 14:28 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkWhen Phil Neville did this in the last minute of the Merseyside Derby, the general opinion was that he'd done the right thing and sacrificed himself for a possiblly saved penalty. Not that he'd cheated. But I guess I'm wrong as usual.No, no, no, no, no. The general consensus was that he had *cheated* (because he broke the rules), but that in a cynical way it was right for him to sacrifice himself for the sake of his team.Re: that nonsensical John Terry quote from the BBC website ("We've all seen where we want to go and stop surrounding referees"), when you read the article you see that there's actually another bit to it:"We've all seen where we want to go and stop surrounding referees - the respect is definitely there," he said.Now that makes much more sense.― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 14:30 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkLouis get a red card up yer arse and get tae fuck ;)― Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 14:40 (1 year ago)
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:20 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
(i mean it's not like he's defied the game of football itself by handling the ball on the line, just that the appropriate response has been taken. it's not cheating, he's free to make that choice!)
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:21 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
fouls are cheating.
― ken c, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:24 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
people are free to make the choice of cheating
it's only cheating if it goes unpunished (or insufficiently punished)
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:25 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
actually ignore that last posts i mean
people are free to make the choice of being a cheating hun bastard
― ken c, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:25 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
reason into football won't go
― blueski, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:26 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
cheat: to deprive of something valuable by the use of deceit or fraud
Celtic were deprived of a goal due to Cuellar's actions. QED.
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:27 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lj's wife (god forbid): "omg i can't believe you cheated on me"lj: "no i didn't"lj's wife: "dude i caught you engaging in poppage with that girl"lj: "exactly therefore it's not cheating"
― ken c, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:28 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
failed cheating: http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=vl3HnU0HOhk
Celtic were deprived of a goal because Nakamura couldn't beat the opposition. They were advantaged a penalty and a red card because of the manner in which Rangers remained unbreached.
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:30 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
If Cuellar had made some attempt to conceal the fact he'd handled it, that would have been attempted cheating. Like Mr. Taylor up there.
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:31 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is like so profound
― ken c, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:31 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Roy Carroll: cheat.
Jagger: I, like at least two other dudes who post to the football threads, work as a sub-editor. You're wrong.
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:32 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
No, Celtic were deprived of a goal because Cuellar broke the rules. (And because Scott McDonald takes a shite penalty) Nakamura beat everyone he was meant to and allowed to, Cuellar broke the rule which should have allowed Naka's shot to sail over his head into the goal as intended.
xpost to LJ
― ailsa, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:33 (1 year ago)
jagger: i work at a hospital, you're wrong
― ken c, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:33 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1550415.ece
Great comments box under this one.
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:35 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
LJ you know what rules are, right? You know people often refer to breaking rules as cheating? Being an outfield player and using your hands to stop the ball is breaking the rules and therefore cheating. Betty denied Celtic a goal and gained his team the opportunity of saving another shot, the penalty.
Pointless discussion really though, 'cause 3 in a row giruy etc :)
a big red card stuck up his arse^that bit cracked me up.
― onimo, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:36 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
The definition of "cheat" is subjective, not set in Chambers' stone. When Phil Neville did this in the last minute of the Merseyside Derby, the general opinion was that he'd done the right thing and sacrificed himself for a possiblly saved penalty. Not that he'd cheated. But I guess I'm wrong as usual.
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:38 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
BBC called, they want to know when you can start.
― blueski, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:40 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
If people want too prey do it before or after the game!
― onimo, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:40 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Lee Dixon had better start singing or he's on his way out.
definitions by definition cannot be subjective
― ken c, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:42 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
whether one should condone cheating or not is up to themselves.
― ken c, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:44 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
didn't Stephen Taylor get away with that exact move on a subsequent occasion?
Louis, you are insane
― MPx4A, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:48 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
xpost so get tae fuck.
now that that matter's settled.. i think "player of the year, now he's a dick" is going to be my first album title
― ken c, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:48 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Louis, he got sent off FOR CHEATING. This is idiotic.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 14:21 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Other people who were caught, punished and therefore didn't cheat: Dwain Chambers, Marion Jones, Floyd Landis.
― onimo, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 14:28 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
When Phil Neville did this in the last minute of the Merseyside Derby, the general opinion was that he'd done the right thing and sacrificed himself for a possiblly saved penalty. Not that he'd cheated. But I guess I'm wrong as usual.
No, no, no, no, no. The general consensus was that he had *cheated* (because he broke the rules), but that in a cynical way it was right for him to sacrifice himself for the sake of his team.
Re: that nonsensical John Terry quote from the BBC website ("We've all seen where we want to go and stop surrounding referees"), when you read the article you see that there's actually another bit to it:"We've all seen where we want to go and stop surrounding referees - the respect is definitely there," he said.Now that makes much more sense.
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 14:30 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Louis get a red card up yer arse and get tae fuck ;)
― Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 14:40 (1 year ago)
FUNNY HOW THINGS CHANGE WHEN IT'S A WORLD CUP QUARTER-FINAL
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:42 (fourteen years ago)
hahaha lj otm in that thread
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago)
the AFRICA DEMANDS IT shit is just risible, have these cunts never met a nigerian? desailly was relatively lucid tho
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago)
l0u1s jagg3r otm
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago)
seriously considering that sb button right now
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago)
Fuck Phil Neville, too.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:44 (fourteen years ago)
if this qf was ivory coast v japan who'd be the horribly patronised underdog then? oh that's right THE WEAKER TEAM
― r|t|c, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago)
someone should tell blatter to give players who handball on the line two red cards imo.
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago)
lol @ onimo
― Adge Cutler & the Özils (NickB), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago)
hanging is too good for them
LJ otm but fly obliged to sb nvthlss.
― Stevie T, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago)
fly? felt.
do tell more. as I say, gyan and mensah deserve SBs, maybe melo as well. I would SB those three.
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago)
should make gyan wear #51
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago)
would be like the opposite of "wearing #10"
they intentionally broke the rules and therefore "cheated", yes. this had been such a good world cup until that player cheated : (
seriously though, that particular kind of cheating -- the conscious decision to deny a goalscoring opportunity and risk a red -- is part of the game. fine with that. and i'm borderline pfunkboy on most other football law issues.
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago)
#51 is almost Bendtner's number - makes more sense now
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:50 (fourteen years ago)
Where does this pro-Africa attitude come from? Is it because it's always nice for the host nation/country from a host continent (?!) to do well? Has there always been this desire for an African team to do well? What was it like in 2002, 2006?
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:53 (fourteen years ago)
It's just colonial guilt and racism and ITV.
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:53 (fourteen years ago)
Ha yeah, big pro-Europe bias in 2006 iirc
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:54 (fourteen years ago)
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:53 (21 seconds ago)
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:54 (fourteen years ago)
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:54 (44 seconds ago)
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago)
runofplay: I'm enjoying the sudden global realization that Diego Forlan should be colossally more famous.
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:57 (fourteen years ago)
i do not understand this need to be offended or to attribute motives to people who want an african team to do well. the success of a continent (yes, a whole continent, oh no, i did not realise africa is a big place with languages and cultures and religions!?!?!?) that has previously failed totally at the world cup, and is hosting the world cup for the first time, would be a good thing for so many reasons, and rooting for that is not necessarily patronising orientalism or whatever the fuck people think it is.
and sure, that may not be tyldsley and townshend's motives, and bbc >> itv, but you guys don't know you're born.
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:01 (fourteen years ago)
^^^real talk
― fresno's wet (gbx), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:02 (fourteen years ago)
caek otm can everyone stfu
also lol @ lj!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― roxymuzak, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago)
hang on what
I was totally rooting for Ghana, just thought that some of ITV's phrasing was highly unpalatable, verging on patronising
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago)
really happy for uruguay for a few reasons: theyre a country of less than 4 million people; you'd have thought that any degree of success in the WC was in the past for them until very recently; Diego Forlan is a really great and underrated player; they're south american; they have great BBQs.
― Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago)
xp, i think you're cool here. hold fire.
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:08 (fourteen years ago)
yeah but do they have a swimsuit model promising to lay all of them if they win?
no. they do not.
― fresno's wet (gbx), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:09 (fourteen years ago)
yeah uruguay are great
always love small nations doing well
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:09 (fourteen years ago)
no lol @ your c+p
― roxymuzak, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:09 (fourteen years ago)
cavani has to do something in the absence of suarez
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:10 (fourteen years ago)
roxy my hang on what was at caek (now retracted), I accept your lolz with good cheer!
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:10 (fourteen years ago)
itv may be a bit weird about the africa thing, but it could be worse: http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTY0NGI0N2Q5MGIyMmNlYmI3YjA5Mzk0YmEyYTcwMWQ=
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago)
guys you do know about the paraguyuan model laying situation right?
― fresno's wet (gbx), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago)
ILX just went into weird meltdown so there wasn't an xpost warning
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago)
caek I refuse to read that: summarize
officially transferred my allegiance to uruguay/whoever is playing germany
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:12 (fourteen years ago)
you've seen it, xp!
oh riiiiiight
― fresno's wet (gbx), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:23 (fourteen years ago)
Hold on Louis - what thread did those quotes come from? It appears to be a discussion about an incident in a Celtic match, but I'm in that thread and so are Blueski, Matt, Ken and other non-Scots. Also, it's from mid-August, Charidy Shield time. Also, I have no memory of saying that and have no idea what the John Terry thing is in reference to.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:25 (fourteen years ago)
― fresno's wet (gbx), Friday, July 2, 2010 6:11 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark
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― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:25 (fourteen years ago)
That was a hell of a game. Heart goes out to the Ghanaian lads but that team shd only get stronger in the next 4 years.
― Don't mention de Boer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:25 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, great couple of games today - proper world cup now imo. And tomorrow promises epic lunacy before Spain turn up and ruin it all.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago)
i believe that c+p refers to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXA_eLMY96k
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:30 (fourteen years ago)
so many quotable lines
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago)
NOW HE'S A DICK
― Don't mention de Boer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago)
xxp hahahah I understood 1 out of every 10 words coming out of that guy's mouth
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago)
COMMENTATOR'S EYE
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago)
Commentator's Eye always makes me think of that Lee & Herring sketch called Histor's Eye or whatev
― Don't mention de Boer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago)
and that is a fucking sending off cheating hun bastard
― caek, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago)
why oh why am I playing cricket instead of watching germany - argentina
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago)
Proper World Cup Now otm.
I'm in the "good thinking" camp wrt Suárez; he actually placed himself on the actual goal line and has probably been there many x times and knew what minute it was.
(Haha semi-offtopic I just thought of bcz wine: This is a sort of crazy-ass opinion of my stepfather which I sometimes suspect makes kind of sense: if there's a loophole for gaming the rules contra their intention, you are not only allowed, but *obliged* for moral reasons to exploit it, otherwise it will not be noticed & plugged asap.)
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago)
I use "Player of the Year, now he's a dick" in all sorts of random daily situations.
not good
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:34 (fourteen years ago)
Paraguyan model: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/29/larissa-riquelme-lingerie_n_629975.html
TBH Dave Boyle promised, on ILx, to do this if Liverpool won the Champions League a few years ago, and some of us are still waiting...
― Stevie T, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:34 (fourteen years ago)
however i have referred to ppl as cheating hun bastards before
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:35 (fourteen years ago)
in a nonsectarian context obv
seems soccer is all about exploiting the rules - cf diving - so I say well played to suarez. well played.
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:38 (fourteen years ago)
hahahah I understood 1 out of every 10 words coming out of that guy's mouth
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Friday, July 2, 2010 6:31 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
there should be a poll of what estimated percentage of words in that video did you understand -- i would be at under 15%
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:38 (fourteen years ago)
i understood them all
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:39 (fourteen years ago)
Hahah I still remember that.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:39 (fourteen years ago)
so do i. never forget
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:40 (fourteen years ago)
this has been a good world cup since after the first round of the group stage
can't imagine being hugely disappointed by any of the remaining teams winning it but kinda dismayed by holland's conservatism (forgiveable vs brazil tho)
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:41 (fourteen years ago)
was gonna say, all they did was play on the counter and be a bit profligate in front of goal, some people are making out like this was the biggest travesty of justice since Kanye let Taylor Swift finish
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago)
And Brazil have been also quite conservative by their standards of flair (although that is all def overstated by the fans).
Sure Holland won't mind winning playing the kind of game they are not known for.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago)
steve mcanamara said on tv that the pitch was in terrible shape, and in replays you can see divots and big chunks of the field everywhere, wonder if it had any effect
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:47 (fourteen years ago)
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2010 23:46 (1 minute ago)
they just need to get rid of national disgrace dirk kuyt, replace him w/ the superb eljero elia and tear apart a tired uruguay
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago)
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Paris Hilton has been arrested for allegedly possessing cannabis after watching a World Cup game in South Africa.
Paris Hilton And A Friend At The World Cup Match Between Netherlands And Brazil From Hilton's Twitter Feed
Paris Hilton and a friend enjoy the atmosphere: Pic from @parishilton
The socialite was in the VIP suite at the Nelson Mandela Stadium.
According to reports she was arrested leaving the Brazil v Netherlands match in Port Elizabeth.
Officers allegedly found a substance in her handbag.
She had flown in to the country in a private jet to watch the quarter final.
"Had so much fun at the game today. What a match! I love South Africa," she said on her Twitter page.
"It's so beautiful here. I can't wait to go on the safari this week and see all the amazing animals."
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago)
Shit, beaten by a Kerr hair. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
― Vuvuzilla (suzy), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago)
i just saw it on the sky news site and immediately posted it here. im still laughing.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago)
England fans = zero arrests, she's there less than a day and huckled by the polis HAHAHA
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:55 (fourteen years ago)
"Robben kept up playing. If I meant to hurt him, he would have left the pitch. I have enough strength to break his leg. Every time he was touched he would jump and roll over on the floor. I just wanted to get the ball and start our counter-attack."Melo then apologised to his fellow countrymen for the exit.
Melo then apologised to his fellow countrymen for the exit.
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:58 (fourteen years ago)
Breaking News12:02am UK, Saturday July 03, 2010Drug Charges Against Paris Hilton DroppedDrug charges against Paris Hilton have been dropped hours after she was arrested for allegedly possessing cannabis at a World Cup game in South Africa.The socialite appeared in court but a judge decided not to pursue the case.Hilton was wearing an off-white sleeveless blouse. Her hair was in pigtails and she had heavy black eyeliner.
12:02am UK, Saturday July 03, 2010Drug Charges Against Paris Hilton Dropped
Drug charges against Paris Hilton have been dropped hours after she was arrested for allegedly possessing cannabis at a World Cup game in South Africa.
The socialite appeared in court but a judge decided not to pursue the case.
Hilton was wearing an off-white sleeveless blouse. Her hair was in pigtails and she had heavy black eyeliner.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 23:09 (fourteen years ago)
Brazil's entire tactics pretty much "shovel & intimidate Robben as much as possible without actually hurting him seriously" though? No prob with 1 x red card tbh from what I saw.
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 2 July 2010 23:10 (fourteen years ago)
dunga's probably getting skullraped by resentful brazilian media right now
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 23:11 (fourteen years ago)
Interestingly, BBC have completely left out the incident that led to the free-kick, and instead just shown the kick being taken. What kinda shit's that?
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Friday, 2 July 2010 23:12 (fourteen years ago)
they hated dunga's football and hauteur in defence of it
i'd be surprised if the next manager does anything drastically different tho
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 23:13 (fourteen years ago)
Dunga's policy is actually pretty good. He should be kept on because for the home WC in four years there will a shed load of pressure to play and win with stereotypical Brazilian style footie. Dunga would have kept all that down.
Instead he'll get the sack, the Brazilian FA will hire an adventurer, they'll be strangled by the pressure and I bet Messi will win it for the Argies.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2010 23:19 (fourteen years ago)
he's gone already!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jul/02/world-cup-2010-dunga-brazil-holland/print
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 23:21 (fourteen years ago)
xp: Yeah but but Brazil will hate whoever's in charge of Brazil. They want someone to recreate the alleged glories that happened before they were born (goals made by divine magic with ca one person even touching the ball, gloriously), and will never be content with concessions to the actual facts no matter what. </racist>
Trouble with Brazil is not team nor coach, but denial about place in football world. I think.
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 2 July 2010 23:24 (fourteen years ago)
They're top eight! That's pretty good! Right!?
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 2 July 2010 23:26 (fourteen years ago)
the football they played in this tournament was stereotypical brazilian stuff imo
a few years ago they were rly dull, iirc three defensive midfielders in some games in the copa america 2007 and rly cynical rotational fouling every time a dangerous argentine player crossed the half-way line
the first goal they conceded today was something of a fluke, and even the second whilst shitty from an organizational pov is difficult to attribute to dunga cos they've largely been solid at set plays
rather dunga can be blamed for failing to kill off the game at 1-0, and in a longer timeframe for his overpromotion of a headcase like felipe melo, and by extension for his spirit of caution infecting the whole team and leaving them clueless when faced w/ a need to score in short order
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 23:29 (fourteen years ago)
all three goals in NED-BRA were like total *errors* (to use baseball terminology) right? Possibly not the last one, but shortest dude heads unpressedly, so...
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 2 July 2010 23:36 (fourteen years ago)
Only saw the highlights and listen to some radio but its not Dunga's fault 'for failing to kill the game'. The dutch keeper maybe a couple of great saves in that first half. Holland just kept them at bay and when the goal happened the match suddenly took a turn and there was perhaps a lack of leadership on the pitch to keep the focus and Melo was not a cool head. You have to say that perhaps not taking Ronaldinho was a bad move, and maybe not looking for options to Robinho (who you just knew was going to do zilch when the going got tough) were failings, but even then minor ones.
They haven't quite been conservative, just much better at defending than in the past - so not stereotypical. Expansive in an interesting way.
But in the main they lost because Holland have a better mentality than the likes of Chile or Mexico, who like playing pretty and then concede 2 goals in 5 mins.
They should def try to keep him. Dunga is ok, its just that they are not gonna win it every time etc etc. (they went 24 years w/out winning one post - 1970) and he might make better choices next time.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2010 23:42 (fourteen years ago)
the first was (to use tennis terminology) s/thing of an unforced error cuz the defence has to be rly negligent to let that f-melo pass cut through the entire side so easily
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 23:43 (fourteen years ago)
Only saw the highlights and listen to some radio
then yr remarks are hardly worthy of consideration here!
holland were playing a 36 y/o cb who was released by blackburn last year
brazil had already cut them open w/ laughable ease in the first ten minutes - holland wd always be a threat on the breaks and a goal's security was arguably required
maybe harsh on dunga but fine margins etc
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 July 2010 23:49 (fourteen years ago)
football should keep a count of unforced errors, like corners, shots on target etc.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Friday, 2 July 2010 23:52 (fourteen years ago)
Nah I do think I got a good idea of the game from the radio (heard all of that first half and bits of the 2nd, which is what is being discussed here). Don't see how Dunga can be solely blamed when the players score one and don't make good on the few chances. And then the players reacted badly when it got awkward. The shape of the match was beyond what any coach can do from the touchline.
The Dutch were quite bad in the first 10 mins but the keeper made the saves and lol Kuyt did come up with a clearing header 10 mins from the end.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2010 23:58 (fourteen years ago)
do peeps on here not like Dirk? I loves him! Horrid cliche, but he really does put a shift in. Holds the record for most consecutive starts for Holland he does.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Saturday, 3 July 2010 00:02 (fourteen years ago)
to consider only the events of the game, it should be said (as i did earlier) that holland were very lucky and felipe melo terribly stupid
however dunga has been in charge of brazil for four years, and the vast playing resources at his disposal could have been used to reduce the sizeable margins of uncertainty which football by its low scoring nature creates
so as you say, he might have persevered with game-changing substitutes like ronaldinho/diego/pato, or he might have ensured he had a proper lb rather than the hastily converted bastos who should by rights have been sent off (and at any rate gave away the fatal fk)
these things and more might have averted an outcome which you see as forgiveable, but dunga's arid style ensured anything other than a world cup win was total failure and his newfound ignominy won't surprise him
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 00:13 (fourteen years ago)
gutted for ghana but that match was very even. brazil/holland was a ridiculous classic.
why the fuck was ears invoking me upthread?
― ogmor, Saturday, 3 July 2010 00:46 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hN3efui2fM&feature=player_embedded
"thank you for not diving" lmao
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Saturday, 3 July 2010 04:15 (fourteen years ago)
Dunga did fine I thought. Brazil were a good side and could easily have been 3-0 up at half-time and out of sight. I do not get the 'lack of flair' thing at all - genuinely don't understand it - they had a front three who when they clicked were more devastating than anything in the tourney, Maicon, Lucio - what more do people want? What do they think football is?
The problem was temperament is otm - the meltdown is obvious, even if it barely qualifies for the word, but before that Bastos and esp Robinho seemed overhyped from the off. Maybe too much 'flair' mentality?
Holland were great. Mentally more than anything, for hanging on in the first half and then giving the appearance of control in the second when there was still only a fag paper in it. And Sneijder so impressive.
One thing I noticed was the quality of touch of both sides. There were a few otherwise-unremarkable passages where one team pressed hard around the halfway line while the other had to ping the ball about really fast & hard, yet the players were controlling it like it was nothing. Amazing to see, when you notice it's happening. When you see guys like Kuyt or De Jong easily participating in play like that, makes you wonder whether there's something in all the technique-related England handwringing right enough.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 06:46 (fourteen years ago)
Just watching the replay again now. It was just a great match, two quality sides pushed to their limits and see what happens. The other game too. And should get another one this afternoon with any luck.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 07:56 (fourteen years ago)
Oh shit there is an ogmor. Apologies. gbx called you out on the Ghana != Africa stuff, but when I checked back over that part of the thread I couldn't see your name in that bit of the discussion and as I was the one who gbx was apparently responding to at that point, I figured he must have meant me. So there you go.
― ears are wounds, Saturday, 3 July 2010 08:23 (fourteen years ago)
Bloody hell, how did this slip past?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YaMfWkbm94
― James Mitchell, Saturday, 3 July 2010 08:48 (fourteen years ago)
Just looking at the odds this morning: Holland now slight favourites ahead of Spain at either side of 2/1, Argentina 4/1, Germany 6/1, then Uruguay 10/1 and finally Paraguay at 50/1.
I'd make Spain favourites now I think - Brazil were the one side I was sure would batter them. Seems too generous on Germany to me. I don't think Uruguay will win it, but 10/1 is a fair price seeing they only have to win/get lucky in two matches now. I'd say the same about Paraguay, but they are a bit rubbish.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 09:52 (fourteen years ago)
I'd make Spain favourites now I think - Brazil were the one side I was sure would batter them
tbh didn't you say germany wd lose 3-0 to england?
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:09 (fourteen years ago)
disappointed that there won't be a spain/brazil game, as with last year when spain contrived to lose to america in the confederations cup
i don't like this current side as much as the 2008 one w/ silva and iniesta as false-wingers aside xavi and senna
busquets is a cunt and overkill next to alonso and xavi
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:20 (fourteen years ago)
Dunga did fine I thought. Brazil were a good side and could easily have been 3-0 up at half-time and out of sight.
Yes, well done Dunga.
"Say, boss, how do we cope with the speedy and deceptive running of Bayern Munich's Arjen Robben?"
"How about you try kicking him up and down the park for 90 minutes."
The beautiful game, huh?
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:25 (fourteen years ago)
Samba rhythm keeps those feet a-kickin'
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:26 (fourteen years ago)
That's what I'm talking 'bout, but if you're right I'll take a punt on repeat of the '78 final with Holland to right a historical wrong
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 13:26 (3 weeks ago)
did you?
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:27 (fourteen years ago)
My approach to this tournament has gradually coalesced into "Anyone Chiles/ Drury/ Tyldesley is for then I'm agin 'em"
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:28 (fourteen years ago)
Gotta love how Brazilians are all for the Beautiful Game, but only as long as they're the ones playing it, anyone else tries it they get their legs broken
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:29 (fourteen years ago)
try to refrain from making specific predictions since i don't gamble but was srsssssly tempted to put a couple of hundred on germany who had absurd odds of abt 2/1 vs england
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:32 (fourteen years ago)
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:28 (3 minutes ago)
this is generally wise but there's a surprising amount of love for argentina in the commentating confraternity
since brazil don't PLAY WITH A SMILE ON THEIR FACES any more it's down to messi, tevez + some randoms to inspire the 'liquid football' encomia
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:35 (fourteen years ago)
Tevez = English. Messi = beat some English clubs on his own. So they're OK then.
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:37 (fourteen years ago)
Man some rubbish about kuyt upthread, he's had a great tournament.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:40 (fourteen years ago)
he's shit
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:41 (fourteen years ago)
tho yeah he's done very well for a player w/ his limitations
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:42 (fourteen years ago)
He's a good player. Does have limitations but scores big goals and obv "works his socks off". Kuyt scoring 90th minute winner in the final would be sweet...
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:46 (fourteen years ago)
fuck fifa if they do this btw
Fifa has confirmed that the Uruguay striker Luis Suárez could miss the rest of the World Cup following his handball against Ghana. Suárez was given a straight red card for saving a goalbound-header on the line in extra-time, Ghana missed the resulting penalty and Uruguay went through to the semi-final after winning a shoot-out.The striker will serve an automatic one-match ban ruling him out of the semi-final with Holland but Fifa's disciplinary committee will look at the case to see whether he should also be suspended for Uruguay's last match of the tournament - which will be either the final or the third-place play-off."For automatic red cards there is an automatic one-match suspension," Fifa spokesman Pekka Odriozola told a media briefing. "The disciplinary committee also opens a case and they will be looking at that incident and taking a decision." Fifa's disciplinary code gives the committee the option of a longer ban for "unsportsmanlike conduct".
The striker will serve an automatic one-match ban ruling him out of the semi-final with Holland but Fifa's disciplinary committee will look at the case to see whether he should also be suspended for Uruguay's last match of the tournament - which will be either the final or the third-place play-off.
"For automatic red cards there is an automatic one-match suspension," Fifa spokesman Pekka Odriozola told a media briefing. "The disciplinary committee also opens a case and they will be looking at that incident and taking a decision." Fifa's disciplinary code gives the committee the option of a longer ban for "unsportsmanlike conduct".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jul/03/fifa-may-extend-luis-suarez-ban/print
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:46 (fourteen years ago)
I think it wd be fair for Suarez to be suspended for a (putative) final too. Assumed he would be, tbh.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:51 (fourteen years ago)
that would be a bullshit ban and would make me hate soccer 4 lyfe
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:52 (fourteen years ago)
Oh shit there is an ogmor. Apologies. gbx called you out on the Ghana != Africa stuff,
I didn't know what was up til I realised gbx had somehow incorporated me into his own confusion. hoping to see argentina&spain win today in circs where I can't even hear the commentary, tho I agree with nakh that this sennaless spain midfield is a little less fun. it will be some sad fatalism if suarez is somehow playing in the final
― ogmor, Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:53 (fourteen years ago)
I think if you cop a straight red card for cheating your opponents out of the competition a 2 match ban doesn't seem excessive or unfair.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:54 (fourteen years ago)
no it wdn't be apt cos every footballer wd have done that reflexively, it's hardly provable as malice aforethought
ffs 'cheat them out of the competition' as if asamoah gyan is bereft of any agency in that
he doesn't deserve a more severe punishment than any of the terrible 'challenges' so far have received
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:56 (fourteen years ago)
Dude that is straight nonsense - he couldn't help himself, unlucky son. The rules have always allowed for an added ban onto any red card and given the pivotal nature of the offence missing the rest of the tournament is not excessive. Arguments about other red cards and the punishment they received is irrelevant.
The result is the result but I don't think a 2 match ban for that handball wd be one of the great human rights injustices of the year.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:58 (fourteen years ago)
It's provable as malice aforethought because the ref gave the handball - which is deliberate by definition.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:59 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-4W1KrmwVA
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:01 (fourteen years ago)
yeah he could have helped himself xp but in practice nobody wd have done so in the 119th min of a quarter final, hence it isn't extraordinarily 'unsportsmanlike'
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:02 (fourteen years ago)
i hated all the shit abt thierry henry and his supposedly terrible malfeasance too
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:03 (fourteen years ago)
a 2 match ban in any other instance, maybe, but dude the FINAL of the world cup. missing the semi final AND getting a penalty awarded against them was punishment enough surely. ghana missed the opportunity to set justice right imo.
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:05 (fourteen years ago)
I got no moral beef with Suarez and I understand exactly why he did it - it was the right thing to do for his team. I wish Uruguay well in the semi, but this "butterfly on a wheel" thing is a bit much considering they wouldn't have a shot at the final if he hadn't handled the ball off the line.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:05 (fourteen years ago)
The problem I guess is the kind of moral indignation expressed in some quarters of the press but I don't think "cheating that results in serious consequences deserves a serious punishment" is that controversial a statement.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:06 (fourteen years ago)
xphmm actually i think you're right there
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:08 (fourteen years ago)
I dunno, I just feel a handball is about intentional as diving, and plenty of teams have advanced in soccer through advantages gained through diving
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:11 (fourteen years ago)
Well the team has advanced, I'm just saying it's okay if it turns out that Suarez has jumped on a grenade for them.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:14 (fourteen years ago)
yeah it's not the worst 'trovsy admittedly xps
not rly fond of the honest triers vs latin perfidy narrative tho (not that you are advancing this but if a possible suarez ban becomes a story, then that's the form it will take)
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:16 (fourteen years ago)
not least cos ghana are a bunch of diving cheats
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:18 (fourteen years ago)
Can't think of many teams who haven't had plenty of divers, sadly. The US were possibly the most honest of the bunch.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:20 (fourteen years ago)
Maybe both Korean teams as well iirc
there's diving and then there's writhing around on the ground....ghana style.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:22 (fourteen years ago)
So, I looked at the odds for a Germany - Spain double today and tbh it's not worth it.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:25 (fourteen years ago)
Heh, looks like refraining from specific predictions is the way to play these things. Or insane predictions at any rate.
I didn't back Argentina-Holland, sadly - though I'm still unconvinced of Argentina's chances (largely the influence of the haterz on here tbh). We'll know by the end of the afternoon I guess - you only really find out when a team is up against proper quality. Holland passed that test it's fair to say.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:30 (fourteen years ago)
What's with the Ghana hate? They were hardly the worst offenders, or even especially noticeable ones.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:32 (fourteen years ago)
it's formality for every straight red card. don't think they will extend the ban.
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:35 (fourteen years ago)
"The 'Hand of God' now belongs to me. Mine is the real 'Hand Of God'. I made the best save of the tournament. There was no alternative but for me to do that and when they missed the penalty I thought 'It is a miracle and we are alive in the tournament'. Now we are in the semi-finals although I was very sad because no one likes to be sent off."
Fifa May Extend Luis Suarez Ban
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:39 (fourteen years ago)
Was there ever a replay of the handball showing whether the shot was over the line? My immediate reaction was that it was, but I didn't actually spot the handball.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:43 (fourteen years ago)
if suarez hadnt handled the ball there wld be no uruguayan players in the final, aaaah
― ogmor, Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:49 (fourteen years ago)
The 'Hand of God' now belongs to me. Mine is the real 'Hand Of God'. I made the best save of the tournament. There was no alternative but for me to do that and when they missed the penalty I thought 'It is a miracle and we are alive in the tournament'. Now we are in the semi-finals although I was very sad because no one likes to be sent off."
this man sounds like a child
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 13:24 (fourteen years ago)
suárez is rly beginning to look like a great player btw
maybe that whole yeah kezman/afonso but yeah rvn/ronaldo eredivisie thing can be set aside
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 13:35 (fourteen years ago)
the view through the top of this stadium onto the mountains looks sublime
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 3 July 2010 13:54 (fourteen years ago)
still don't understand why maradonna can't get a suit that fits
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago)
Come on!
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:00 (fourteen years ago)
quickfire poll: does messi score today"
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:01 (fourteen years ago)
?
YES.
it makes me sad that Germany no longer have the green second kit. I have good feelings towards that kit, although I have no recollection why.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago)
I'll say not.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago)
wow coach
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago)
goodness. That'll put a dampener on the conversation I was trying to open up about Germany's green kit.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago)
Aie, shocker at the back.
amazing cross
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago)
were there any defenders on the field or did they just stay home
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago)
Good grief.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:05 (fourteen years ago)
germany on fire.
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:06 (fourteen years ago)
germans have like 100x the energy right now
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:06 (fourteen years ago)
lawro in not knowing the rules of football shocker
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:07 (fourteen years ago)
yaow. looks like germany v saudi arabia at the moment.
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago)
oh so Sneijder got both goals, they say. I was wondering by what rule he didn't get the first, since it was technically on target.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:09 (fourteen years ago)
I think we can all agree this style of German play is called "Blitzkrieg". Holy crap.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:09 (fourteen years ago)
love 2 see jav masch kill someone today
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:15 (fourteen years ago)
schweinsteiger reducer very much needed by argentina there. may settle things.
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:15 (fourteen years ago)
How are Germany seeming to run 20% faster than any of their previous games?
― Popture, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:16 (fourteen years ago)
kinda loving these germans right now
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:18 (fourteen years ago)
drugs xp
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:18 (fourteen years ago)
hate germany, hope they lose in heartbreaking circs.
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago)
thomas muller is damn good
'what a season he's had'
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago)
completely incidental question: why don't we call Bayern München by their proper German name? Are there any other club names that we translate?
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:21 (fourteen years ago)
want another mascherano reducer
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago)
^^
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago)
germany translates ac/inter milan into german
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:23 (fourteen years ago)
neat pass!
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:23 (fourteen years ago)
This game is something else and messi is a gift.
― Popture, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:25 (fourteen years ago)
was dicaprio wearing a west virginia hat?
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago)
We only translate one of the words though xp - Bavarian Munich would sound terrible. I guess Spartak Moscow, Legia Warsaw are sort of similar.
Argentina in all sorts of trouble thus far until the past few mins. I hope they can hang on & keep it a contest at least
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:34 (fourteen years ago)
di maria infuriating today
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:34 (fourteen years ago)
if any argentina players are checking ilx during the game, underrated aerosmith will bonus you if you win this game
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:34 (fourteen years ago)
jesus germany is faaaaast
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:34 (fourteen years ago)
Lolling at the dude upthread who said Germany can't defend and will get found out
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:35 (fourteen years ago)
Booking for that is a joke.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago)
shiiit
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago)
o Carloooooos.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago)
Offside. Amateurs.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
ah okay. I thought that Tevez had been a major idiot by passing to the player in front of him there. BUT STILL.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
Not a fan of either of these teams but it is nice to see ARG frustrated so
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
and another reducer for Schweiny. He's gonna be tender tomorrow.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
i think i was one of the people saying germany can't defend. this team have defended poorly for the last couple of years, and were feeb at the back in 2/4 games before this one at the wc. and when argentina have gone forward they haven't exactly looked solid. it's the speed with which they attack and move the ball forward that makes their defence look good.
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago)
"can't defend" obviously not true though. better than a lot of teams. much weaker than previous german teams.
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:41 (fourteen years ago)
they have such great shape when out of possession that the crappiness of 3/4 of their defence is seldom obvious
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago)
nice little slapstick routine between Argentine forward and German defender there.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago)
"i'm not sure whose wag she is but i guess she's a wag"
^^^ bbc in re: crowd footage of charlize theron
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:45 (fourteen years ago)
lol Charlize Theron branded a WAG by commentator
― ears are wounds, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:45 (fourteen years ago)
heinze u a bitch
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:45 (fourteen years ago)
maybe he only saw her in Monster, xp
Argentina's shape & discipline is so poor that when Germany break, they take the Argentine midfield out of the picture immediately.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
this better be finished in 90 minutes, they'll hold up switching to the tour prologue otherwise.
― whores catégorie (haitch), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:47 (fourteen years ago)
<3 clarence seedorf
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago)
is messi great from outside of the box as well? is he just off today (or the ball?)? i only ask cuz i feel like 95% of his goals for barca are touches inside the box
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago)
he's known for skipping through the midfield
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:49 (fourteen years ago)
right, okay
also doesn't seem as if maradona is doing any coaching of any sort
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:49 (fourteen years ago)
don't think coaching is really maradona's style
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:50 (fourteen years ago)
was that leo di caprio or matt damon behind mick jagger?
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:50 (fourteen years ago)
"maradonna is a fan in a suit" was the lawro's comment, 100% true
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:50 (fourteen years ago)
i imagine half time talks are like watching ian wright as a pundit during wc 2006
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:51 (fourteen years ago)
how much plastic surgery has maradona had i wonder
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:51 (fourteen years ago)
müller is so good btw, will they even manage without him in a semi
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:52 (fourteen years ago)
tbf there are plenty of managers who don't handle the bulk of the coaching but you get the impression maradona doesn't have anybody else to do it for him. They're not as shambolic as some posters have claimed but I don't think Argentina have much of a Plan B.
Plan A's pretty good tho
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:52 (fourteen years ago)
Predict Germany to hit them on the break again in the next 15 minutes and then Argentina lose their shit
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:54 (fourteen years ago)
^^^ : (
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:54 (fourteen years ago)
i know spain aren't playing till later, but does anyone else think the guy that sits to the left of del bosque looks a bit like cliff richard?
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:56 (fourteen years ago)
tbf there are plenty of managers who don't handle the bulk of the coaching but you get the impression maradona doesn't have anybody else to do it for him.
that would be carlos bilardo
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:57 (fourteen years ago)
can see argentina losing it
hopefully not tho
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago)
havent seen paraguay play yet---will the game be any good? tryin to decide where to watch it
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago)
need a scary sneijder gif
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago)
Can see Spain - Paraguay being the boringest of the quarters. I think you have to go after Spain and try and disrupt their game plan - if they go in front first they are so capable of killing the game. But I think Paraguay will probably come out cagey and suffer for it. Hope I'm wrong.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago)
on paper it doesn't sound like a great game. if ronan is on ilx tonight then i would say watch it here for the lols.
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:01 (fourteen years ago)
Mascherano's tackles have been amazingly-timed, but only a hair's width from a straight red
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago)
Mertesacker has a face of steel.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago)
Really want Argentina to equalise now & see what Germany are made of
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:12 (fourteen years ago)
You'd just like Tevez or Messi to take on 1 less defender each time and get a pass away
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:18 (fourteen years ago)
This is a fabulous passage of play
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:18 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.behindthehype.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/big_8066741_600.jpghttp://footballfraternity.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/100heinze_468x599.jpg
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:19 (fourteen years ago)
To be fair, she was married to Brett Angell for a while in the '90s.
― Michael Jones, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago)
Germany look a little tight and edgy. TBH even if they can score a 2nd I'm not sure they'll be able to shut the game down.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago)
Tomas Mueller reminds me of a young Rudd Gullit.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:21 (fourteen years ago)
If Argentina had Samuel and Cambiasso...
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago)
This game is making me badly regret not buying a case of Bitburger from the Lidl up the road.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
o shi.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
rip
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
that first pass was nuts
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
oh shiiiiiit
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
drinking my munich beer, listening to car horns and vuvuzelas
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
Nicely finished.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
Game Over you'd think but as I said I don't think Germany will be able to sit 11 men back.
Sorry for being 7 minutes out btw
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
why the hate, caek?
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
english
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
Look for Tevez or Masch to get the sending off now
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
don't like german football fans in general, but that was not a problem until i moved to munich
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, gbx has it
I think argentina have missed Veron this game, he's been awesome at keeping possession in the previous games, and alllowed Messi to move further forward.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago)
Will Argentina take this well, d'you think?
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago)
i think they'll take it v. well, especially maradonna
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago)
klose's goal celebration pretty cool imo. scoring in three different wc tournaments is a big deal. just ask messi
love müller's pass to podolski leading up to the goal as well
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago)
Maradona's a good winner tbf
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago)
Love the comment that came up on the BBC stream page just as that goal went in:
From PanasonicVieira: "German passing hasn't been good this half.
― James Mitchell, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago)
milito on imo
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago)
BEAUTIFUL
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
woww
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
haaaaa
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
Such flat track bullies :D
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
SCHWEINI
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
Germany are going to win the whole shebang aren't they?
― State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
*that's* how to walk it in, Arsène
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
Nice bit of dribbling.
― James Mitchell, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
Merkel doesn't know quite what to do with herself.
― Michael Jones, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
they're just vanquishing these teams
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
this team is fucking ridiculous, esp considering their age. lionel schweinsteiger there.
also nabiscochavin on this thread, that guy is always otm.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
Germany are fuckign awesome.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
Was just trying to post "Germany are gonna walk this World Cup aren't they?"
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
sorry caek :(
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago)
England in the last game don't look quite so bad now.
GER-NED final please. For the lulz.
― Born too beguiled (DavidM), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago)
i'm not world cup historian phd over here, but it seems like beating england -> argentina -> spain -> netherlands (if it played out like that) to win the cup would be an extraordinary run of wins
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago)
if only this argentina team had a proper coach :( riquelme could have done things today that maxi is just not the man for
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago)
tbf Germany has been practicing with the jabaloney since the year started
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago)
TBF Germany are playing a team who've got no interest/ability in neutralising them. Spain (presumably) won't be this porous.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:34 (fourteen years ago)
Close-up on Maradona is fucking unbearable at the moment
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago)
goodbye the 4-1-5 formation, you had so little time to make a mark
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago)
yeah he's bumming me out
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago)
tear da cup up thugz, tear da cup up
― whores catégorie (haitch), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago)
Can I just say I want a 4disc dvd set/someone to set up a screensaver of them picked randomly of the slow motion replays?
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
lol at 4-1-5
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
lol they're just taking shots for fun now huh
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago)
It's been more like the 4-6-0 for a lot of this match and there's yr problem
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago)
maradonna : (
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago)
Lawro saying what we're all thinking re: Maradona meltdown
IS THIS REALLY WHAT YOU WANT FOR GAZZA, ENGLAND FANS?
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago)
lolled at 'Tevez- wild, high and not very handsome' a few minutes ago
― if I get 1000 followers I will take political action (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago)
Knockout football really needs a throw the towel in option, huh?
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:40 (fourteen years ago)
Argentina are infuriating to watch, where's the pace? Nobody dares to run the ball down the flank any further than the 18 yard line or cross it. It's just slow useless passes back into the centre. Dire.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago)
German defenders on messi like BP surveyors on the gulf
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago)
Really enjoying the birth of this 'Schweinsteiger: Player of the Tournament' meme
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago)
Bookies up and down the country will be pissing themselves as they shovel thousands of Golden Boot bets into the bin about now
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago)
KLOSE!
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago)
this is HILARIOOOYUS
Oh my.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago)
OUTSTANDING
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago)
Oh Klose you fantastic bastard
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago)
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago)
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago)
Amazing
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
now two better than pele, hahaha
― whores catégorie (haitch), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
the kloser
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
KLOSE MORE LIKE CLOSER
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
xp lol
just incredible
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
Klose was something like 50/1 last I checked (a few days ago)
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago)
oh man i would give anything for biting_plastic_hand_shaking_head.gif
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago)
Commentator just reminded me that that psychic octopus is now 5 for 5
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago)
http://thetvbay.info/media/images/TheCloser.jpg
srsly plastic hand biter dude is priceless
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago)
Good grief, I've been catching up on the second half via text and my head is spinning.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
Reckon if the octopus doesn't pick Germany for the semi it'll meet with a mysterious canning accident
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
Messi more like Missi
― Born too beguiled (DavidM), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:47 (46 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this.
Klose started the comp at like 25/1 so I don't think you saw that right Ismael
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
germany winning the world cup would be so miserable. they were massive favourites as soon as argentina had to start chasing
― ogmor, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
fantastic result
argentina just had no shape whatsoever
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
germany better than they were against england, argentina not at the races.
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
Also anyone predicting the last two South American teams standing would be Uruguay and Paraguay was lying or should be hailed as the new messiah.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
Klose still 12/1, but I'm guessing that may be changing soon
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
tragic result, but at least I got to see a guy wearing a jersey that reads "meatesacker"
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
even england would have beaten argentina on that performance
Flat track bullies like I said but how can you call a performance like that miserable?
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
xpost LET'S TALK REAL CAEK
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
oops, rong c&p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_pkYxX7VQc&feature=player_embedded#!
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
gotta root for germany from here on out -- thrilling team
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
love how Eboue nods there
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago)
^^^ not quite rooting for them, and it's pretty insufferable being in country, but i'd rather they won than, e.g. spain
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago)
(xp)
holland win in the final now my target scenario
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago)
So, Spain vs Netherlands final then?
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago)
gotta root for germany from here on out -- thrilling team― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, July 3, 2010 10:51 AM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, July 3, 2010 10:51 AM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago)
I don't get that YouTube ahoyhoy
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago)
puttin my weight behind u r guay
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago)
Think Spain will reveal the limitations of Germany and Argentina, but Germany are a confidence side and I wouldn't wanna put money on the semi.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago)
"That performance looked like they'd spent hours and hours on the training ground" - why yes, yes it did
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago)
dyao: korean manager speaking in korean to korean player about tactics, eboue runs over and pretends he understands what he is telling him, mild lols ensue.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago)
would love to see the guays do well, tbh
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago)
That last Klose goal is ridonkulous
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago)
No way xp - Germany will kill Spain
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago)
ha okay, thought there would be a bugger reason to replay it 193849x tomes xp
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago)
germany's been like a million times better than spain so far
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago)
iPhone spelling :/
even tho I like a lot of the germany team (maybe just love lahm), as an entity I've really got used to supporting their opponents and I have taken no joy from anything other than their opening shit on australia.
― ogmor, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago)
Defence rests, your Honour
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago)
missed all of germany's games up til now---has their strategy consistently been about scoring on the break (vs steady advance)?
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago)
germany kinda the gold standard for actually addressing issues in their national team - remember how fucking dire and clapped-out they were at euro 2000?
― whores catégorie (haitch), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago)
xp yes
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago)
They're good on the break, they've got quick midfielders who'll go wide, but I don't think they've played a pure counter-attacking game. Even today, they didn't need to. They are a lot happier going forward than sitting in their own half I think.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago)
BrazilItalySwedenBulgariaCroatiaNetherlandsFranceSouth KoreaTurkeyPortugalGermanyUruguay
^teams who have got to the semi-finals more recently than Argentina (or England)
― if, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago)
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:57 (50 seconds ago)
they might win but it won't be like today
rly like this germany team for the superb choreography of their counterattacks
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago)
rooting for a new winner, although germany >>> spain for obv reasons
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago)
watching spain ponder an opening while getting closed down in the german penalty area or puyol's sweaty head as he chases klose towards his own goal would be excruciating
― ogmor, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago)
can't even remember why you guys hate spain
pure jealousy iirc
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago)
Germany celebrating with casual half-hugs and nonchalant hi-fives like a team who so obviously know they are going to win the whole thing. Except they won't, the Netherlands will.
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:07 (fourteen years ago)
rooting for schweinsteiger over iniesta is depraved
― ogmor, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:08 (fourteen years ago)
was klose offside for the 2nd goal?
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago)
I don't hate Spain, they're just boring - technically impeccable, but very cautious
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago)
onside xp
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago)
my understanding is that the spain hate is part anti-negative-football, part anti-liverpool
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago)
strange world cup that has me admiring the German team and cheering Arjen Robben
xp otm
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:12 (fourteen years ago)
Hating on "negative" football is so un-Zen
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:12 (fourteen years ago)
anti-liverpool?
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:12 (fourteen years ago)
It's true, the man who said enjoying spain win is like sticking a hand up your grandma's skirt
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago)
has maradona really had his own chat show? would love to see that.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago)
the spain haters like NV & LJ are the anti-football lovers though, so it cant be that.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:15 (fourteen years ago)
Klose was onside, just - he was a fraction behind the ball xp
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:15 (fourteen years ago)
a) I don't think I've expressed an opinion about Spain on here other than that they're good
b) I don't love anti-football, I think the dichotomy is false, maaaaan
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago)
Spain won't beat Germany by playing their usual boring waiting game - they'll have to stretch them. If they do that, fair enough.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago)
does anti-football now mean short, one-touch passing & dominating possession?
― ogmor, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago)
Apparently.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago)
Instead of free-flowing beautiful effective swashbuckle like Argentina
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago)
My particular Spain hate goes a)Football players too afraid too actually shoot at the goal and score and b)Busquets: the DM who doesn't know how to defend
― chupacabras, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago)
Thoughts on Brazil now, please
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago)
I dont see how Spain are anti-football tbh
and apologies to NV if i got it wrong about you and spain, sorry jim! (ps you never reply to emails ya sod)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
I've actually been in my Googlemail this week so I know you've mailed me :)
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago)
Haven't read it properly yet, like
oh, jim
― max, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago)
spain have been wasteful in front of goal, but surely that's either frustrating or lol. hate seems unnecessary for a great team w/ a habit of squandering chances. busquets is just a DM who doesn't know how to defend, he's hardly definitive in that category
― ogmor, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago)
Always chuckle at this Good Football/Evil Football bollocks. There's a pretty straightforward method for checking who's more effective out of 2 teams. If the pretty pretty stylist always won what wd be the effing point?
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago)
no worries jim, i know you will reply within a year ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago)
geraint thomas describing his union jack helmet as "pimpin"
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago)
^^^ misdirected tour de france post
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago)
pretty pretty stylist is a broad category imo
being partisan on certain issues about how football is played is half the fun
― ogmor, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago)
I still don't really how to take Brazil, i guess Dunga managed to build up the tension and the victimisation of the team to such a level that a mental breakdown ought to be expected. They always seemed on the verge of snapping. I do think a team like Argentina and Spain, maybe even Germany would be simpler, Holland just stayed put and waited the car crash. Thiago Motta still missed
― chupacabras, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago)
I think Germany may struggle if it's Spain they face. Both England and Argentina in the midfield were not adept at holding onto the ball. Both teams were mostly interested in getting it forward as quickly as possible. Spain by contrast are THE BEST at keeping the ball in midfield, frustratingly so at times. Schwmei and Kiedera won't have as much of the ball as they have had in the last few games. Germany will have to adapt imo, but from what I've seen of them so far I don't think that is necessarily beyond them. Still with apologies to Paraguay, Germany vs Spain is a game I would love to see. Hopefully it could be as good as Germany/Italy in 2006.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago)
xxp
Yeah not telling people how to vote, I just side with Bukowski who said something about how much fun it was seeing the slugger knock the crap out of the technician iirc
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago)
Busquests hate goes side-by-side with Barcelona hate. He's in Barça, therefore he must be a genius
― chupacabras, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago)
― ogmor, Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:05 (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
http://www.blaugranas.com/media/galeria/25/3/8/7/4/o_f_c_barcelona_lionel_messi-534783.jpgBARCELONA DNA
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago)
brazneth was an amazing game, and I found myself supporting holland w/out really knowing why, but brazil's exit was pretty freakish, not something they had coming at all.
― ogmor, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago)
hot pic
― ogmor, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago)
Germany looked fantastic on the break in the second half (which is all I saw) and also against England. I've got no problem with them winning the World Cup.
otm ^
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
i just hate latins
― max, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago)
goddamn mexicans from brazil and spain
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago)
can't decide if i hate latins or africans more
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:54 (fourteen years ago)
can't even remember why you guys hate spain― ogmor, Saturday, July 3, 2010 11:05 AM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark
― ogmor, Saturday, July 3, 2010 11:05 AM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah me neither? tho i see it's been explained now, i guess
i haven't really been able to see much (any, really) of the remaining teams play, so i can't really back anyone but germany for "style"
since i don't really have a dog in the fight anymore, backing a team is down to "history" v. style imo
guays winning would be totally freakish and cool just because they're dinky underdogs. holland beating germany in a final would be sweet revenge, spain winning at all would be ~finally~ and germany winning would be boring (again?). buuuuut i've only actually seen germany and uruguay actually play so far, and based on that i'll take germany.
really tough to not root for the guays tho---i'll probably back them this afternoon tbh
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:03 (fourteen years ago)
im still rooting for the usa to win it all
― max, Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago)
maybe they will ;)
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago)
certain teams' defensive positioning & set pieces are "technically impeccable", but spain's aren't. maybe the pleasures of watching spain move the ball around are too apollonian for the beery passions of some of the ilx set.
― ogmor, Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:08 (fourteen years ago)
Spiritually I'd be rooting for Paraguay, but they've got no chance whatsoever of beating Germany so I hope Spain win and we get a fascinating pair of semis.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:08 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah this I can agree with, wd be cool if Paraguay win but they don't have a dog in hell's chance.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago)
not so sure about that
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:11 (fourteen years ago)
Spiritually I'd be rooting for Paraguay, but they've got no chance whatsoever of beating Germany so I hope Spain win and we get a fascinating pair of semis.― Ismael Klata, Saturday, July 3, 2010 12:08 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, July 3, 2010 12:08 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
^^ this, pretty much
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:12 (fourteen years ago)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4N7Ur2aSFsA/SWX763vq0QI/AAAAAAAABN8/HLwzlly3sF4/s400/Roque+Santa+Cruz.jpg
― ogmor, Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:12 (fourteen years ago)
Worst Doctor Who monster ever
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:12 (fourteen years ago)
have I missed the women/gays of ilx fawning over roque or has he somehow slipped by?
http://eyecandy.abzolute.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Roque-Santa-Cruz-4.jpg
― ogmor, Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago)
Whoever wins, I have a feeling they're going to be a bunch of foreigners
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:16 (fourteen years ago)
that is my suspicion as well
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:17 (fourteen years ago)
tall, dark, handsome foreigners w/ exceptional taste in cups
http://futbolita.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/roque-santa-cruz_61771.jpg
http://techlogs.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/Roque-Santa-Cruz-and-Giselle.jpg
― ogmor, Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:18 (fourteen years ago)
If I can be totally frank the the whole tournament reeks of bizarre food, alien fonts and exubarently sexual dance moves
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago)
David Pleat on 5Live just saying it would've been a crime against god if Maradona had won the World Cup. The daft twat.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:21 (fourteen years ago)
you should split the difference and hate the Latvians.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:22 (fourteen years ago)
err David, Maradona's already won the World Cup and I don't think Armageddon happened.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:32 (fourteen years ago)
as a manager, he meant. something about the "cult of individualism"
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:34 (fourteen years ago)
"cult of individualism" oh David. So quaint.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:36 (fourteen years ago)
tho tbf the "cult of individualism" is precisely why argentina lost today
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago)
Well yeah sort of but Pleat is a bell-end.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago)
xp to myself that and not ever cottoning on to germany's pretty str8forward strategy or having anyone willing to defend
like just watched the highlights and didn't realize that the schwein to klose goal had schwein cutting past ~forwards~ and not defenders. like wtf argentina where's yr head at
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:39 (fourteen years ago)
tbf if Maradona had won the world Cup it could have been seen as somehow 'devaluing' the position and role of manager. At least I could see David Pleat thinking so. Y'know this maangement lark, hug the players, son Pele and Platini, and do some keepie upeys, easy peasy.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:39 (fourteen years ago)
His point was that Maradona shouldn't've been manager rather than that somebody should've been taking more control of tactics and leaving Maradona to dole out the kisses and cuddles and such.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:39 (fourteen years ago)
i don't know who pleat is i am american
But there are loads of managers who are not the tactical masterminds of their team I suspect.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:40 (fourteen years ago)
well right? i mean i haven't been following the argentinians in the run up, but hasn't their tactics consisted solely of maradona picking the team, telling them to show up, and then just sayin do wahtever you want, you're the ~best in the world~, it'll work out, just you wait
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:41 (fourteen years ago)
fuck u fifahenry was not banned
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:41 (fourteen years ago)
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), den 3 juli 2010 19:39 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
but this probably is how is how it's been done. or was he just against the fact that maradona is called the manager?
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago)
I strongly suspect that Tha Mysteries of Manager-Boxing are exaggerated in 80 percent of cases.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago)
David Pleat was a manager of various teams throughout the English Leagues. His highest profile job was probably at Tottenham where he was also Director of Football at one time.Also didn't Bilardo do the coaching for Arg?
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago)
oh man just now saw the press conference after the game, maradona looked depressed...
As somebody pointed out ages ago the Argentina side still has a General Manager or whatever, but there's not been much evidence of anybody having tactical input this tournament. Or during the qualifiers.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:43 (fourteen years ago)
like, i know i'm only a yank and don't really have the same kinda eye for shape and tactics or w/e, but germany had a pretty clear strategy (that has evidently been their go-to throughout): close down any advance, clear and break, score on a counter-attack. straightforward, doesn't rely on individual guile or some magical center midfielder for tons of coordination, and works brilliantly against anyone disorganized in the back.
you'd think that ANY kind of remotely tactically minded manager would make some adjustments at the half, but maradona just seemed to stalk the sidelines more intently and grasp a rosary. like wtf is yr JOB dude
many xps
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:45 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah Maradona was a cheerleader more than a tactician. I shd clarify, what annoyed me about Pleat's comments wasn't that Maradona wasn't obviously technically deficient but that there are plenty of "properly qualified" managers who are really only cheerleaders - hi there former England manager Kevin Keegan. Pleat is responding to Maradona's theatricality but I strongly suspect if Argentina had gone thru and got to the final the script re: Maradona's ineptitude wd be completely different.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:50 (fourteen years ago)
http://i50.tinypic.com/5cingy.jpg
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago)
omg no lucas barrios!?!??!?
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, the narrative so far for the tournament on 5live has been. Players at this level don't need coaching, just a little bit of set play organisation, they need MOTIVATION and INSPIRATION etc etc. See Capello attacked as much for his rapport with the team as for his 4-4-2.
xp to NV
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:55 (fourteen years ago)
I'm neither a woman or a gay but I'm still desperate for Roque to continue lowering his shorts in that photo up there.
the Klose flip looks a couple of inches from a broken leg or two.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 18:01 (fourteen years ago)
Henry didn't get a red card :(One match automatic ban for Suarez's red is standard and fair enough.
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 July 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago)
Re: Maradona
Even the most imcompetent 'attack minded' coaches know how to have their teams playing with say two banks of 4 (or a 4 and a 3, 4 and a 5 etc) when defending, Maradona's team had no fucking idea what he wanted them to do when Germany had the ball and at times you couldn't tell if the formation was 4-3-3, 4-1-5, 4-6-0, 1-1-8 etc.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 18:15 (fourteen years ago)
The ease of Schweinsteiger's waltz through the Argentine 'defence' for the third goal would embarrass a bunch of under 12s
― sonofstan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago)
Have they really made 6 unforced changes? If so the coach has some stones.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago)
Tho tbf they were pretty uninspired vs Japan.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago)
6 more defenders brought in who are penalty kick experts?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
go paraguay!!!!!!
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
Both teams lining up 4-4-2 would bring the lols. Cue Alan Shearer "IT'S PRE HISTORIC FOOTBALL" "Nobody plays 4-4-2 anymore"
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago)
What did Shearer play when he was briefly manager of Newcastle?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago)
what. are. you. doing. shooting from there. ffs
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 3 July 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago)
The game against Portugal was the first time that I've actually thought that Sergio Ramos might actually be a really good player, which considering I must have seen him play upwards of 100 times is a bit strange.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago)
ha, I have seen him play a handful of times but that match did make me wonder why people so often describe him as being a bit rubbish.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago)
fuck u fifahenry was not bannedHenry didn't get a red card :(One match automatic ban for Suarez's red is standard and fair enough.― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, July 3, 2010 7:08 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― A game of two Alves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, July 3, 2010 7:08 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah wtf are you talking about moullet?
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
Watching Spain at times is like watching a slow Barca which considering both teams share so many players is head scratchingly odd.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 18:52 (fourteen years ago)
Ooh that would've been sweet
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
pandemic: Barca play with two wing forwards who constantly beat their man with pace. Spain play with Xavi, Busquiets and Alonso behind the halfway line.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
xp yeah man that would have been a great flying header goal
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
come on you paragayz.
can we have a semis thread tomorrow?
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
all flying headers are great goals
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:06 (fourteen years ago)
do not like torres now he no longer looks like an extra in OOOOMYYYFUCKINGGODGOOOOOAAAAALFUCKYOULINO the lost boys.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
fernanlol torres
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
flagged for the rong dude, f u lino plz go away
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
I've grown to quite like Jonathan Pearce, much to my surprise. I think what annoyed me was the false gravitas he puts on when he gets the mid-table EPL gig, but the world cup quite suits him.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
parrobbed
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
the flagging a bit weird but imo jumping and trying to win a duel means you're participating
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
still think of him as the dude who used to orgasm over panic attack killing sir killalot or something on robot wars, not an actual football dude
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
2 teams in the WC Semis with populations of 6million and 3 1/2 million respectively would be quite an achievement. Having said that I'm pulling for Spain to go through. I think Paraguay have been progressive enough so far, not as disappointing as they were in their last game.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago)
Pearce is fine, but Mark Bright is intolerable.
― Stevie T, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
Word!
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
valdez been playing with puyol so far, i expect that to lead to disaster sometime in the 2nd half
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
suarez might be suspended for one extra game. i was talkin about that
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
x-post ^
Is there a #1 commentator who used to be an actual footballer? All the #2s are (Bright, Lawro, Keown etc.) but...
Also is there any actual way of describing the diff traditional roles of each commentator? (What's a colour commentator?)
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
haedo is running all over the field!!
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago)
in the us yr #1 is known as the play-by-play man while the #2 is the color commentator
― mookinho (mookieproof), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago)
A colour commentator is the expert #2 I think. Your Bright's, Lawro's etc.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:23 (fourteen years ago)
Fickle public update: Germany now favourites at 2/1. Flagged up this morning at 6/1 by your friendly tipster (and obv not taken by him)
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:23 (fourteen years ago)
and yeah, the #1s are, with a few exceptions, professional broadcasters rather than former players
― mookinho (mookieproof), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:23 (fourteen years ago)
I think ideally the second commentator is supposed to add a little bit of expert analysis to any given notable event, the first commentator being more of a straight play-by-play (if you'll excuse the term) and facts man. Only works like that if you don't opt for utter chumps in the second seat, though.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago)
commentator and colour commentator. colour commentator doesn't describe play as it happens. commentators are almost exclusively former radio journalists there days.
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago)
puyol's disaster
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago)
I've got a fiver on Germany at 7/1, which I was happy with until I found some people who somehow at some point put money on them at 14/1.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago)
oh shit i forget pearce was robot wars voice. game ruined.
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago)
this morel rodríguez is gangsta
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:29 (fourteen years ago)
Hansen keeping up his 'you can't win anything with kids' schtick. How dare he play Rodwell in 2 years time when he is... as old as Ozil, the best player at this competition?
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago)
his name sounds delicious
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago)
and he isn't on contract!!!!! i would sign him
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago)
xp to a hoy hoyYeah, not to mention 20 yr old Thomas Mueller who has a whole ONE YEAR of Bundesliga experience.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:32 (fourteen years ago)
Jesus really?
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago)
I think it was his first full season with Bayern but I'll go check to be sure.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago)
yup, before that he was playing in the third tier (I think) with Bayern II.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago)
yeah promoted to the first team w/ badstuder this year i think.
hansen made his catchphrase pre-united's gg and he's sticking with it tho
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago)
Made 3 appearances 2008-9. Signed first senior pro contract March 2009. Started regularly 2009-10. According to wiki.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago)
"Cesc Fabregas, of Arsenal ... currently"
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago)
oh lol
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
good call ref
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
paraguay penalty
GOD I LOVE FOOTBALL
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
maybe this will liven Spain up
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
haha, completely idiotic defending
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFUCKYOUPGERALDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
I. LOVE. FOOTBALL.
aw man.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
(Refuse to accept it is Gerard and not Gerald Pique btw. Need more Geralds in football.)
CASILLAS FUCKING HELL.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
looked very nervous there
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
OMG FUCK U CARDOZO
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
wtf was that
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
i love it too lj LOL
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
I STILL LOVE FOOTBALL SORT OF
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
― youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
LOL
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
shit pen more than great save.
PENALTY #2!
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
oh man lol
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
LOLELOL this game i give up
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
looked like a dive from here
OH MAN. your thoughts on football now, Louis? haha xposts.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
OK I DON'T LOVE FOOTBALL
wtf is happening in this game. Excitement from nowhere!
dive dive di ve
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
nah, probably a pen
this is lol i <3 this sport. diving bastid.
HATE FOOTBALL, LOVE GERMANY
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
felt inevitable
― r|t|c, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
cant believe thats not a red tbh
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
i say miss
what the fuuuuuuuck
― youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
NO!
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
retake???
touching a player who isn't spanish - player stays up and smacks that. villa instead decides to let xabi alonso do it.
TAKE IT AGAIN HAHAHAHAHAHA.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
LOL this game
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
is this the dumbest two minutes in a wc game ever or what
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
caek was that a red card for last man?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
plz miss
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
HAAAAAAA
― r|t|c, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
ref 100% right on the retake, not sure about the pen/card situation
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
hooooooly shit.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
this is the best ever.
OGM GOTOOOFOOTBNALL
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
oh my fucking god i love football
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
looked like spain should have got another pen there tbh, total bedlam
NIL FUCKING NIL
FOOTBALL IS THE BEST THING IN THE HISTORY OF CREATION
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
goalie brought someone down imo
omg holy shit holy shit holy shit
― youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
Holy moly, what a few minutes.
― State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
gonna watch some effin replays
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
this is fucking insane
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
HELLO PARAGUAY WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?!?!?!????
― Cooper Temple Paws (NickB), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
yea
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
the ref fucked up not giving a red then ordering a retake when the keeper was a yard off his line, then not giving a 2nd pen when fabregas was pulled down by the keeper (who shoulda been off)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
BEST WORLD CUP EVER
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
"stonewall", way more deserving than villa's dive.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
that was 100% penalty for the foul by the keeper, ref had no sight line though
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
Spain are so easy to hate, calling for a red because if it's a penalty it should be about a minute after Puyol only gets a yellow.
― Portugal vs Brazil: a game of two Alves (aldo), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
lucas barrios plz
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago)
but villa's retarded dive makes up for it xp obv
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago)
this ref will be going home after this game. Awful decisions.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago)
caek you should be out there
Deffo penalty on the replay, keeper fouled Fabregas.
― State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
~amazing~
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
i would hate spain but goofy-ass pique is just too endearing
― r|t|c, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
oh lol, should have taken the paraguay one again too
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
my rules: penalty for spain, brazil or france? don't call.
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
i left the room for 30 seconds, why did the cheating hun bastard busquets get a yellow?
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
3 Spanish players in the box for the Paraguay penalty, the replay shows.
― Portugal vs Brazil: a game of two Alves (aldo), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
omg paraguay should have had to retake penalty. they were robbed
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
does pfunkboy agree, i wonder
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
Every woeful performance by Torres simultaneously fills me with hope he'll stay at L'pool and despair that another couple of mill has been knocked off his transfer fee.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
paraguay pen more deserving of a do-over than spain's even
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
btw can I just say that y'all needed to give me more credit for my respective pronouncements on Germany and Argentina
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
lj picks very good team that half of us also picked against another good team, news at 10.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
but I also showed my working and basically got completely goddamn vindicated
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
paraguay penalty: total penalty, yellow card fairparaguay penalty: should have been retakenspain penalty: want to see it again. if it was a penalty then the only way it shouldn't have been a red card is if he was losing control of the ball/running away from goal. i worry ref felt it wasn't a stonewall pen, so gave the pen but didn't want to give the red card too.spain retake: correctspain denied penalty: couldn't see it because it was picadilly circus up in there, but should have been a pen
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
is it possibly to vote the ref as man of the match?? he single handedly made this match suddenly exciting
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
these are the best qfs ever btw
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
come on ROQUE
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
w/ cabanas i would lock paraguay world champs
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
They took off the Mickey Dolenz guy? :{
― Cooper Temple Paws (NickB), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
Love Pedro!
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
free lucas barrios
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
caek otm re decisions, except the villa one was definitely a pen too, but whether a red or not I don't know
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago)
sergio ramos is a joke
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
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― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:02 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
watching the portugal game w/ my mate and his drunk dad was the best, he just spent that last half hour chuckling to himself that there was a spanish player named pedro! he's spanish and named pedro! it became quite infectious. also yeah <3 him for being spanish messi. fuck his dna tho.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
nearly lol, mostly sad.
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
oh my
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
there ya go
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
aww, fuck
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
;_;
― caek, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
It was a lovely move tbf
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
lol at the defender on the line watching the ball pinging around
― Cooper Temple Paws (NickB), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago)
FUCK YOU SPAIN
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago)
spain stamps their authority with postal strikes
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
Haha, what a game - it actually seems to be the introduction of Fabregas that changed it all
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
more the removal of torres
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago)
Spain look better every game as soon as Torres goes off.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago)
Torres coming off was the catalyst, more like. Spain have looked better throughout the tournament when he's not on the pitch.
― Portugal vs Brazil: a game of two Alves (aldo), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago)
well shit. at least this playstation team will lose 8-0 to germany
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago)
just a booking for that elbow in the face to Busquets there? Boy who cried wolf and all that.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
Haha multiple posts there.
― Portugal vs Brazil: a game of two Alves (aldo), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
SANTA I HATE YOU
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
jeez casillas
― r|t|c, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
GOOOOOOODDDDDDD WHAT
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
Paraguaiiiiiiieeee
― Cooper Temple Paws (NickB), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago)
Casillas striking the perfect dramatic balance between shite and brilliant, there.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago)
Fabregas got a bit lost in that counter-attack.
― James Mitchell, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago)
ohh that looks sore
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
kicking ramos in the face is something we all would like to achieve in our lifetimes.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
ohh thats a bad un that. OUCH
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ xpost
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
having watched the replay i concur santa cruz is a fuckin moron - exactly the wrong option to take
― r|t|c, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
santa cruz, what a moron...
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
its terry butcheramos!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
world cup 2010 knockout stages for ramos
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
terry butcher has aged well. ha xpost
did pierce just say that 22 billion people watched the last world cup?
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
26.2 billion, to be precise.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
(a stat that is, at best, mildly misleading.)
blimey ppl need to stop having kids
I thought he said 2.2 billion
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
Well, fuck Spain, but hurrah for Germany
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
hurrah germany might lose now
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
kelis-xpost to roque and cardozo
I HATE U SO MUCH RIGHT NOW
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
german fans had more to appreciate in that game than spanish ones
― iatee, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
lol ramos
― Cooper Temple Paws (NickB), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
THE DOMINATION OF EUROPE CONTINUES
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
some spanish players consoling cardoza just now which is nice to see
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.modernguitars.com/imagefiles/gibson/londonshow07/uli.gif
― Cooper Temple Paws (NickB), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
Cardozo went all Gazza at the end with the tears and the wonky legs.
― James Mitchell, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
conmebol a bar's width from total wipeout
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
See that Villa goal where he adjusted his feet and took a touch steadying himself before scoring? Can you imagine Heskey doing that?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
stop crying ):u could explode in the middle of the goal and decided this crap
― moullet, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago)
sometimes heskey steadies himself before knocking it down for rooney to hoof it
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
Cardozo had the broken look of Ron from Party Down at the end there.
― Stevie T, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
haha that penalty retake that was missed, 2 spain and 1 paraguay players were in the D. So why no retake?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
That Paraguayan kneeling down behind Alonso as he took his penalties
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
they should void this match and make everyone retake their penalties!
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago)
dear all the fucking idiots moaning about suarez:
you are idiots. anyone would have done the same. ghana bottled it. love, moi
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sZoGJCo3Dc
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago)
dear louis, get teh fuck
thrilling game imo
― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago)
Christ, I'm going to have to watch the replay of this one...
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago)
it's kind of funny that Germany-Argentina probably ends up being the worst of the quarter-finals
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:29 (fourteen years ago)
it was a great game till germany's second goal
― mizzell, Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago)
the last half of hour was great, yeah.
Love a Spain - Holland final for a guaranteed new WC winner
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, I know! But it can't hold a candle to the others' kraziness
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago)
And now Spain are back as favourites! Do people not watch these games?
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:33 (fourteen years ago)
Although Suarez to come back to score a hat-trick in the final would be some kind of perfect ending. xxp
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago)
would make him top scorer at 90/1 if you're feeling brave - did cross my mind that he might manage it in the 3rd/4th playoff
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:37 (fourteen years ago)
del Bosque to drop Torres surely? Great etc but that midfield is working well enough but only when he's off. They really gain the extra speed needed.
Why now, Sir Alf Ramsey would not hesitate. xp
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:37 (fourteen years ago)
― ogmor, Saturday, 3 July 2010 18:08 (3 hours ago)
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:38 (fourteen years ago)
hmm, 90/1.
Also Klose to break Ronaldo's record. Forgot about that 3rd/4th place play-off.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago)
can't a dude just appreciate thrilling, tactically sound football (like germany's) without finding spain's ball-retention drudgery particularly awe-inspiring?
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago)
No, I have a high boredom threshold.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago)
Although ball-retention snoozeville vs Germany tap tap tap will hopefully make it for a good SF.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago)
yeah tbf it is not disgusting or savage to say that by their own standards spain's play has been pretty gummed up this wc - had they been playing like they had done in the friendlies & qualifiers i don't think anyone would be bitching
― r|t|c, Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago)
ahem
nah seriously if they'd been rolling teams over with fabulous play fair enough but they have been turgid
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago)
yeah I think its the occasion but also I think if Torres got more involved and looked more dangerous there might have been more movement/pace in the whole team.
otoh they dominated Germany in the Euro final but only won 1-0 so..
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:56 (fourteen years ago)
there are some problem's w/ spain right now caused by torres' injuries and silva's loss of form (possibly related to negotiating his £160k p/w contract w/ city while he shd have better things on his mind)
they are two of their better off-the-ball players and the lack of incisive runs between and beyond the lines has caused them to rely on a stultifyingly baroque tiki-taka
tho by the time they finished today they were playing s/thing like a 4-3-3 w/ villa, iniesta and pedro and fabregas/xavi behind and they were pretty damn awesome for about 15 mins (inc the goal)
those players are a level beyond muller/ozil/schweinsteiger if they click, but i'd guess del bosque will continue w/ they same starting xi
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:56 (fourteen years ago)
would dispute 'a level beyond' but that seems fair - germany's incisive directness has at times been thrilling tho
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago)
torres had it coming w/ all those ridiculously premature returns from injury to save the day for liverpool
there was one game vs arsenal where he could hardly move, but was still preferred to whoever else they had
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:00 (fourteen years ago)
you say that like you don't know who liverpool's reserves are
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:08 (fourteen years ago)
Sorry, I don't even know what that was supposed to mean.
Agree totally with you on Spain though - what I think happened is that Fabregas for Torres meant they flooded the midfield suddenly, so they could enjoy their possession further up the pitch and all the runs suddenly meant something rather than needing endless aimless passing. Maybe even chalk this one up to 4-6-0 at last.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:13 (fourteen years ago)
no i don't! that was the season before last and they played kuyt and voronin wide of torres in a 4-3-3, dunno who else they had who was worse than those two or a crippled torres
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago)
ngog
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:20 (fourteen years ago)
those who make peaceful rafalution impossible will make violent rafalution inevitable
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:22 (fourteen years ago)
They boast the riches of Ngog, el Zhar, Robbie Keane for a bit of that season, plus Kuyt or Babel out of position if needs must - there are probably others too horrific for my memory to retain
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:25 (fourteen years ago)
Apparently not - threadbare doesn't really do it justice. Yet they were still a pretty thrilling second.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago)
and that was with Torres missing about a third of their games. I must say I have no recollection of how they managed it.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:37 (fourteen years ago)
yeah silva besides, navas and mata have been partic disappointing - i mean i hadnt seen much of them before but the reputation was fearsome and i expected them to slot in better. pedrito losing out to the alonso/busquets axis is the popular accusation i gather and one that seems true enough
― r|t|c, Saturday, 3 July 2010 23:37 (fourteen years ago)
and also underestimation of cesc's capabilities in a forward role possibly
― r|t|c, Saturday, 3 July 2010 23:38 (fourteen years ago)
ironically enough alonso/busquets is gonna probably be the correct selection for the first time v germany - or is that just caution inviting harm?
― r|t|c, Saturday, 3 July 2010 23:40 (fourteen years ago)
spain still creaky
― ogmor, Sunday, 4 July 2010 00:44 (fourteen years ago)
def think busquets and alonso formation is better suited to playing germany. spain could have used silva or mata today for more width.
― mizzell, Sunday, 4 July 2010 01:19 (fourteen years ago)
lol never in doubt
― The Birdman of Alcaraz (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 July 2010 07:34 (fourteen years ago)
i don't get all this talk about Spain being "turgid" and the Cranky Panel on the BBC saying the first half was "dire" "abysmal" etc.
if that's boring, dire, etc, i'll take it. Especially if I'm England.
honestly i find Spain riveting. the first 10 minutes when paraguay were going all out to disrupt every pass and Spain were trying to establish their rhythm was loosey goosey and exciting. but even once they'd settled in - i mean, it's beautiful and amazing the way they keep the ball! i was shocked at Iniesta's poor touches though TBH, and there were lots of balls with too much weight etc - what is that, nerves?
seriously i just love watching the skill, the one-touch passes like some weird fractal intelligence pulsing along the pitch. i could watch it all day. then suddenly the ball goes where you don't expect it - with a back heel or a little chip and boom Villa scores.
but for me it's all about Xavi. he really is just a legend isn't he. Never flustered. so composed. always the first one talking to the ref. it's weird that he's not the captain.
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 4 July 2010 08:59 (fourteen years ago)
oh can I also just say how much i loved Casillas' reaction to saving that pen? impassive expression, brows furrowed, immediately signalling his men where to move on the field. no fist pumps, no barks. what a fucking pro.
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 4 July 2010 09:02 (fourteen years ago)
Spain are better than what we've seen so far. Turgid for at least periods of the game is a fair description.
Paraguay (like Chile) used their aggression and pressing of the Spanish to disrupt their passing, which was a good strategy and was going to work for periods of the game. That and the lack of energy up front from Torres really took the edge of the Spanish, amplified their anxiety of perhaps winning their first WC. Still much of their short passing was good but utterly without focus.
1st half was totally ok, its just the turn the game took in the 2nd half made it for something more exciting.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 4 July 2010 09:46 (fourteen years ago)
Err... C Ronaldo has become a father:
It is with great joy and emotion that I inform I have recently become father to a baby boy. As agreed with the baby's mother, who prefers to have her identity kept confidential, my son will be under my exclusive guardianship. No further information will be provided on this subject and I request everyone to fully respect my right to privacy (and that of the child) at least on issues as personal as these are.
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 4 July 2010 12:21 (fourteen years ago)
Pepe Reina saved that penalty, not Casillas...
"Reina told me where he (Cardozo) would shoot. He is phenomenal", said the Real Madrid 'keeper of his Liverpool counterpart. Shortly after saving the spot-kick, San Iker could be seen pointing to the sideline, presumably at Reina, in appreciation of the tip-off.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2890/world-cup-2010/2010/07/03/2008535/world-cup-2010-pepe-reina-told-me-where-oscar-cardozo-was
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Sunday, 4 July 2010 12:22 (fourteen years ago)
that sounds like the kind of press release Ricky Martin might have issued
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 July 2010 12:23 (fourteen years ago)
Already looking forward to him dangling it over a hotel balcony.
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 4 July 2010 12:25 (fourteen years ago)
my exclusive guardianship is kinda strange
the only situations where mothers usually surrender guardianship of child = surrogacy or given for adoption no?
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 4 July 2010 12:26 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIS5-m_r9VI&feature=player_embedded
― moullet, Sunday, 4 July 2010 12:28 (fourteen years ago)
As agreed with the baby's mother, who prefers to have her identity kept confidential,
his wife's sister?
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Sunday, 4 July 2010 12:28 (fourteen years ago)
AGUANTE CHARRÚAS
― moullet, Sunday, 4 July 2010 12:29 (fourteen years ago)
THE HUMAN CENTIPEDE
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Sunday, 4 July 2010 12:30 (fourteen years ago)
this video's so amazing, reminds of me that 2002 world cup video, w/ ortega, veron and other guy (simeone maybe?) batendo panelas and singing something I didn't recognize
― moullet, Sunday, 4 July 2010 12:31 (fourteen years ago)
and for the england-failing debate: this is why.
― moullet, Sunday, 4 July 2010 12:32 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtUWZccFoII
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 4 July 2010 12:42 (fourteen years ago)
Wow at that Ronaldo statement, if that doesn't get the press interested in investigating it nothing will.
― State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Sunday, 4 July 2010 13:15 (fourteen years ago)
and erm, on that note, are we gonna have one last thread for the SFs and Final?
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 4 July 2010 13:52 (fourteen years ago)
why?
― caek, Sunday, 4 July 2010 13:58 (fourteen years ago)
There was one thread for the first round. Didn't know whether this was for all the knockout stages or what..
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 4 July 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago)
i think the plan was to have one for the whole tournament, but that one got too long. this one isn't too long imo.
― caek, Sunday, 4 July 2010 14:18 (fourteen years ago)
tracer is otm: I find spains style to be totally hypnotic. can't wait to see them against germany
― fresno's wet (gbx), Sunday, 4 July 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago)
I'm looking forward to it too. While I have found them dull normally, it should be great to see them up against a proper challenge, whichever way it pans out. I'm the same with Barcelona, really - great in the CL, awful to see domestically.
I think they'll be found out bigtime though.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 July 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago)
surely you didn't find them dull in 2008 (vs italy excepted)?
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 4 July 2010 18:27 (fourteen years ago)
going to be bereft when this world cup ends btw
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 4 July 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago)
The final was a bit underwhelming, but they were better in 08 I think - it might be the absence of Senna this time takes a lot of the drive out of them. So far this time their games have mostly felt like a lot of waiting around. The Germany one won't though.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 July 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago)
OTM
there's the tour but it's just not at all the same
― fresno's wet (gbx), Sunday, 4 July 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
Just chiming in to say that it was cool to see the Spanish dude who got rocked in the right orbital back on the pitch before the game's end, bloody head-gauze and all.
― Don Homer (kingfish), Sunday, 4 July 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago)
there was a lot of shit talked about spain after the switzerland game when they reeeeally weren't that bad (just inaccurate)
very much looking forward to seeing them vs a first rate side
think they'll get thru, just about
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 4 July 2010 18:37 (fourteen years ago)
I'd be really interested to see, for all their possession, how many actual attacks Spain manage to mount in 90 mins. I may be wrong, but I'd bet the other top sides manage far more.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 July 2010 18:52 (fourteen years ago)
certainly imo
― fresno's wet (gbx), Sunday, 4 July 2010 18:55 (fourteen years ago)
http://ezpicshare.com/images/1278269932.gif
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 4 July 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
Watched all four games but I've been away over the weekend so here are some brief thoughts, without having read the thread:
- Holland aren't that good, Brazil just self-destructed. Wesley Schneider is one of the players of the tournament, though. Without him they'd be fucked.
- Uruguay aren't much cop either, frontmen aside. That said, their frontment are very very good indeed. The Ghana defeat was the sort of horrible epic that we're led to believe only ever happens to England. Poor, poor Asamoah Gyan - if he'd been English he'd be written straight into the history books because taking the first penalty straight after that = maximum respect.
- Yes Germany amazing BUT so far they've only played fuckwits like Argentina and England. Like, every single team that played Argentina identified Messi as the major threat and stopped him from playing. It seemingly hasn't occured to anyone that Germany have some quite tasty players and maybe they should approach Ozil/Schweinsteiger/Podolski/Mueller/Klose with some sort of a plan. Germany seem to be able to destroy teams who pour forward and attack - Spain don't do that.
- Spain have been quite rightly shackled by everyone they've played so far and it's ruined most games they've played. Admittedly the first 15mins of the second half yesterday was loltastic. They've managed to not play particularly well throughout this tournament but still win. IF they can work out a gameplan for Germany they might still win this World Cup. That said, no one's really had much of a go at their defence so far and I think Germany might do that and get some joy.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 July 2010 21:54 (fourteen years ago)
I know what you're saying about Germany, but who doesn't want Miroslav Klose to get two more goals and overtake Fat Ronaldo? I know I do.
― Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Sunday, 4 July 2010 22:02 (fourteen years ago)
he can do that in the 3rd place playoffs
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Sunday, 4 July 2010 23:13 (fourteen years ago)
reckon spain germany will be a dull fest, either spain will win through a 25 yard piledriver shot, or germany will get a goal during a spain defensive lapse, possibly a tap in for klose after somebody squares it from the post (germany have played pro evo before and they know the effectiveness of pressing the triangle button when you're at the goalpost with the keeper charging at you instead of shooting) or teams cancel each other out 0-0 germany win on penalties and boo woo spain.
obv i'm saying it'll be either a draw or one of the two sides will win.
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Sunday, 4 July 2010 23:19 (fourteen years ago)
ilovesoccerball board description
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 4 July 2010 23:25 (fourteen years ago)
late to the party but iirc called holland brazil
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 5 July 2010 00:06 (fourteen years ago)
late to the party but feel free to throw stuff at me for being 100% on brazil winning it
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 July 2010 00:50 (fourteen years ago)
nah, please make more predictions! I insist.
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 July 2010 00:53 (fourteen years ago)
germany will win the WC, and i'm not sure they'll be particularly taxed in doing so. they've been the only team throughout the tournament where the players can tactically adapt on the spot to whatever setup they face. kudos to luuuuuuuuurve for picking the best players available (capello's out mainly because he didn't do this) but i'm not sure that ze germanse need much in the way of coaching after that- there's a lot of footballing intelligence in that squad.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 5 July 2010 01:11 (fourteen years ago)
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 July 2010 01:53 (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
But Cesc is staying...
Ok, Andre Oojier to shock the world by doing what Cryuff and van Basten could never do.
Klose doesn't beat fat Ronaldo's record, because that would be criminal. One was the best striker ever, the other wasn't better than Luca Toni in his career.
England don't learn from their mistakes.
Man City buy Suarez for 40m and then he does turn into a Kezman just for the lols. He then goes on to have a terrific career in Spain or Italy.
Joe Cole goes to Qatar or wherever.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 July 2010 01:42 (fourteen years ago)
let's be clear here- fat ron deserves all the <3 and more he gets, but even in a team of the last 30 years he washes the boots of a Jurgen/Van Basten strikeforce
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 5 July 2010 01:45 (fourteen years ago)
world cup replica made of cocaine found in columbia.
A+ for creativity.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 5 July 2010 03:37 (fourteen years ago)
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, July 4, 2010 9:45 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
racist imo
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 July 2010 03:47 (fourteen years ago)
Spain - Netherlands final, Spain to win the WC.
― The Birdman of Alcaraz (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 July 2010 06:58 (fourteen years ago)
Gotta keep repeating, Germany haven't played any solid teams yet and they've lost 1.
― The Birdman of Alcaraz (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 July 2010 07:00 (fourteen years ago)
yeah it'll be interesting to see how germany deals with, idk, a 1-1 tie from the 75th min on, or even a deficit in the second half or w/e -- everything has been really peachy for them so far, and a few teams -- i.e. brazil -- started to really break down mentally at the first shot of adversity
so anyway i think spain is gonna win too, they don't seem as susceptible to the german counter attack -- hope paraguay beats netherlands tbh
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 July 2010 07:17 (fourteen years ago)
er, uruguay
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 July 2010 07:18 (fourteen years ago)
dude para went home
― fresno's wet (gbx), Monday, 5 July 2010 07:18 (fourteen years ago)
n/m
― fresno's wet (gbx), Monday, 5 July 2010 07:19 (fourteen years ago)
I don't really mind who makes the final. I think Netherlands are better than some people have given them credit for. Uruguay have this horrible habit of going to sleep unless they're behind and I think they'll miss Suarez something bad. Germany - Spain is gonna be a slobberknocker but I think if del Bosque can face up to the fact that Torres is fucked and start a fit 11 accordingly then they'll outplay the Germans fairly comfortably.
― The Birdman of Alcaraz (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 July 2010 07:23 (fourteen years ago)
whatis "slobbeeknocker"
― fresno's wet (gbx), Monday, 5 July 2010 07:25 (fourteen years ago)
slobber-knockern. especially in American football, a powerful collision or a match featuring unusual phsyical violence or intense play; (hence) also in other sports, an exciting game; an exciting or emotional event. Also v., slobber-knock, to hit with extreme force; to decleat; also figurative.
― The Birdman of Alcaraz (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 July 2010 07:29 (fourteen years ago)
(didn't know it came from American football tbh, picked it up from Passantino back in the day in re: boxing)
― The Birdman of Alcaraz (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 July 2010 07:30 (fourteen years ago)
i've heard it before -- think it's an oldie term, hence boxing
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 July 2010 07:32 (fourteen years ago)
noted!
― fresno's wet (gbx), Monday, 5 July 2010 07:41 (fourteen years ago)
Messi also revealed that Walcott's pace was the one quantity that worried Barcelona manager Pep Guardiola when the Catalan side met Arsenal in the Champions League.
He said: "I must say that at the time I thought it was a bad decision to leave Theo Walcott at home.
"And I think that has been proved right. I can only speak from experience but he was one of the most dangerous players I have ever played against.
"Barcelona players are not scared easily but I can tell you that when we played Arsenal last season he truly worried us.
"When we were playing Arsenal at the Emirates we were so in control of the game at 2-0, with all respect Arsenal were not even in the game.
"Then Theo came on and changed the game. He pretty much single-handedly salvaged a draw against Barcelona that night.
"Even in the return leg our manager Pep Guardiola was telling us he was the player to watch out for.
"And the best players in the world like Xavi and Gerard Pique were telling us to watch out for him. The truth is that he really rattled us.
"If he could do that against Barcelona, think what he could have done against Germany and Algeria. Even if he didn't start he would still have been very important for England.
"Along with Cesc Fabregas and Sergio Aguero he would have been the best impact player at the World Cup."
"Even at the top level, pace scares the world's best defenders. And, take it from me, he would scare any defender.
"When England brought on players I don't think they were at the level to make any impact. But Walcott would have been and I still can't understand why he wasn't taken.
"He is a big-game player as well who rises to the occasion. He scored a hat-trick in Croatia, which nobody ever does and was the star against Barcelona."
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 July 2010 08:37 (fourteen years ago)
Klinsmann darragh? That is some rubbish trolling you have going on there.
Might as well have said van Basten/THUDD
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 July 2010 08:38 (fourteen years ago)
those quotes seem strange, messi is hardly the most talkative at the best of times and he chooses now to talk about a nonselected reserve for an also-ran team? attributed to the daily star fwiw
― nakhchivan, Monday, 5 July 2010 08:42 (fourteen years ago)
he only gives quotes to the press about oasis now
― J0rdan S., Monday, 5 July 2010 08:44 (fourteen years ago)
Seriously can we just skip the interminable irrelevant North London toss and get back to talking about things that matter in this World Cup?
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 5 July 2010 08:44 (fourteen years ago)
Spain is gonna be a slobberknocker but I think if del Bosque can face up to the fact that Torres is fucked and start a fit 11 accordingly then they'll outplay the Germans fairly comfortably.
Bears repeating. Spain seem to be stuck in a pattern of "labour for 45mins, take Torres off, suddenly start completely outplaying the opposition".
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 5 July 2010 08:45 (fourteen years ago)
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, July 5, 2010 4:45 AM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark
honestly, this reminds me of how the US was with benny feilhaber
― J0rdan S., Monday, 5 July 2010 08:46 (fourteen years ago)
Del Bosque ought to be capable of spotting the pattern, you'd think
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 July 2010 08:48 (fourteen years ago)
that's not rly correct
vs chile torres was very useful in the first half, in the second half they did fuck all
villa plays best with him dragging defenders out of the way etc, del bosque knows this and is loathe to start villa on his own against a good team (w/ say fabregas behind) cuz he's kinda small
so torres will have to be demonstrably unfit for him not to start in the semifinal, but then i thought he looked more heavy-legged vs paraguay than in any of the previous games (so much for playing himself back into fitness)
― nakhchivan, Monday, 5 July 2010 08:51 (fourteen years ago)
I think the thing with Torres is that if his Liverpool form is anything to go by he suddenly sparks into life and will then bang in 7 goals in three games, which would be quite a nice thing to happen at this point in the tournament.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 5 July 2010 09:03 (fourteen years ago)
there's nothing better than a gentle run-out in a world cup semi-final to get him up to speed for the europa league qualifying round
― nakhchivan, Monday, 5 July 2010 09:08 (fourteen years ago)
the lad could do with next season off tbh
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 July 2010 09:13 (fourteen years ago)
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), 05 July 2010 08:37 (32 minutes ago) Bookmark
Seriously can we just skip the interminable irrelevant North London toss
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), 05 July 2010 08:44 (25 minutes ago)
Accusations of trolling are not to be accepted from someone who posts half-page lolEngland WUM material from Messi re Walcott, and hey it's WC downtime Matt so y'know, suck it.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 5 July 2010 09:19 (fourteen years ago)
vs chile torres was very useful in the first half
Even if this were true (and it's debatable at best), Spain do not need a classier Heskey up front.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 5 July 2010 09:20 (fourteen years ago)
― Ismael Klata, 05 July 2010 09:13 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark
Ddidn't work as WC prep for Gerrard
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 5 July 2010 09:21 (fourteen years ago)
Torres was ok for a combined 5 mins against Chile. Not surprised Del Bosque gave him a go against Paraguay but that was a step backwards. Its a shame really but Villa seems to be enough.
Agree with NV - Germany haven't been tested in the 2nd phase. Holland are a resilient lot and they've learnt the lessons of the car crash against the Portuguese at the last WC.
Uruguay are good cynical stuff/gotta love all the Suarez 'hand of god pt.ii'.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 5 July 2010 09:23 (fourteen years ago)
Germany 'not being tested' is fairly ominous, rather than a reason to somehow discount their chances.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 5 July 2010 09:31 (fourteen years ago)
Not discounting them, they are in the last four, just don't know how good they are when they get the kind of starts they've been offered by Eng and Arg.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 5 July 2010 09:38 (fourteen years ago)
they're pretty good at starting, would be the inference
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 5 July 2010 09:39 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Rob/vuvuzela2.png
― James Mitchell, Monday, 5 July 2010 09:47 (fourteen years ago)
today's quickfire poll: who will win the world cup now?
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 July 2010 09:48 (fourteen years ago)
I'm kind of sad at the demise of the Argies; prior to the Germany match I said that I honestly couldn't tell which way it would go, but the match itself seemed kind of crushingly inevitable, as Germany tore the Argies' defence apart with the same kind of devastatingly simple (but fast) passing & moving that saw them tear up Australia and England too.
Obviously Maradona isn't the greatest coach in the world. Well, to be fair, calling him a coach is kind of insulting to coaches, but as a mascot he's pretty awesome. I just wonder how much influence he had on squad selection; I fear too much.
It strikes me now (having been a hunch at the tournament's inception) that he was mad not to select Cambiasso and Samuel - they've just won absolutely everything in site at Inter, where they were 2 of the most experienced and organised members of a very experienced and organised team. What Argentina was crying out for was that experience and organisation. Messi, Tevez, Higuain, and Veron / Aguerro / Maxi / whoever would have made an amazing attacking force with Macherano and Cambiasso backing them up and covering the defence. I also think it was wrong to play Heinze over Clemente Rodriguez, who looked absolutely awesome launching forward down the left from defence.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 5 July 2010 10:03 (fourteen years ago)
(he took samuel, he didn't take zanetti.)
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 July 2010 10:21 (fourteen years ago)
I just wonder how much influence he had on squad selection; I fear too much
When you say this about a manager, it does kind of say it all though, really
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 5 July 2010 10:25 (fourteen years ago)
Samuel was there? The stats say so, but I don't remember him at all. I have no idea who played at centre back though, if anyone. Cambiasso's absence bordering on criminal imo.
Argentina's demise in 2006 still hurts more than this one for me. Death through being too cavalier is a noble end for a team like that, but suicide through sudden uncharacteristic caution is heartbreaking.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 July 2010 10:30 (fourteen years ago)
samuel got a knock at the start iirc
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 July 2010 10:32 (fourteen years ago)
I'm gobsmacked that Samuel was taken; Demichelis was playing centre-half, but who else?
x-post. Balls.
Still, leaving Cambiasso to go shopping in Milan seems mental.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 5 July 2010 10:33 (fourteen years ago)
burdisso and demichelis iirc
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 July 2010 10:37 (fourteen years ago)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/wcARG-GER.jpg
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 5 July 2010 11:20 (fourteen years ago)
that is awesome
― Jibe, Monday, 5 July 2010 11:24 (fourteen years ago)
Wow, where's that from? German paper?
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 5 July 2010 11:26 (fourteen years ago)
yeah i guess so, don't know
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 5 July 2010 11:29 (fourteen years ago)
Looks like the bottom of the Berliner Morgenpost title logo:http://www.morgenpost.de/multimedia/archive/00687/BMO_header_trans2_687589a.gif
(have forgotten proper terminology for that)
― atoms breaking heart (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 5 July 2010 12:08 (fourteen years ago)
rad
― fresno's wet (gbx), Monday, 5 July 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago)
HAHAHAHA A+++++++++++++
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 July 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago)
triumphant germans are an abomination
― ogmor, Monday, 5 July 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago)
http://i46.tinypic.com/w1v9dh.jpg
― 156, Monday, 5 July 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago)
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2761/pringoals.jpg
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 July 2010 21:54 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hN3efui2fM
THANK YOU for not diving, Team USA
― Cunga, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 02:25 (fourteen years ago)
i <3 dicing
― moullet, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 04:58 (fourteen years ago)
how does jozy make them feel
― 156, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 06:33 (fourteen years ago)
http://i45.tinypic.com/3bvx5.jpg
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― 156, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 06:38 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szvAUZoy4Yw
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 09:09 (fourteen years ago)
anticipating today's match...
here's a great column from Joe P from a week ago about the Oriental Republic of Uruguay -
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/07/01/the-meaning-of-garra/
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 09:19 (fourteen years ago)
Before Uruguay, soccer apparently was a game of long passes and violence; the sport was direct, forceful, without guile, rugby without hands
This is complete bollocks of course
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 09:21 (fourteen years ago)
he's American, cut him some slack
here's one about The Handball -
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/07/06/the-return-of-the-hand/
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 09:25 (fourteen years ago)
I suppose he did say "apparently"
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 09:28 (fourteen years ago)
i loved his maradona one
― the boy boy young messi (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 09:28 (fourteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/qWukb.jpg
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 10:56 (fourteen years ago)
:(
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:05 (fourteen years ago)
*gulp*
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:07 (fourteen years ago)
is psychic octopus having his cake and eating it too?? is he choosing spain or allemagne??
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:07 (fourteen years ago)
Spain win in extra time.
― useless chamber, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:08 (fourteen years ago)
He's going for Spain but with a sadness in his hearts
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:10 (fourteen years ago)
― iatee, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:15 (fourteen years ago)
psychic octopus otm
― Searching for de Jong Soul Rebels (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:20 (fourteen years ago)
The octopus is trying to buck history here. By my reckoning (following iatee's poll), only one country has reached its first final by winning the semi against a former finalist (Sweden in 1958) - and then only two countries have won their first trophy by beating former winners in the final (England 66 and France 98). All three needed home advantage to clear those hurdles.
I don't know why this stuff should work, but it seems to.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:24 (fourteen years ago)
Maybe he's trying to maniuplate the odds so he'll be squids in?
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:25 (fourteen years ago)
I'm kraken up here
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:27 (fourteen years ago)
he's not making a definite prediction, he seems quite tentacle-tive
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:27 (fourteen years ago)
Pull the other tentacle, it's got bells on it
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:28 (fourteen years ago)
you'd have to be a sucker to believe that octopus
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:29 (fourteen years ago)
I don't see how annoying the Germans will make much of a difference seeing as he's already made anenome of Maradona.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:29 (fourteen years ago)
Totally clear water in that tank, I guess the octopus hid ink
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:38 (fourteen years ago)
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:25 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Steve Wilson made almost this exact joke during the last Germany game, just sayin
― ultra nate carson (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:39 (fourteen years ago)
Whatever, this thing isn't actually predicting anything
IT'S MOLLUSK CAM
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:41 (fourteen years ago)
^ worthy of ken c
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:41 (fourteen years ago)
Eight Lahms To Halt You
― ultra nate carson (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:45 (fourteen years ago)
had spent the last twenty minutes trying to think of something that rhymed with mollusc, what a sucker I've beAH FUCK SOMEONE ALREADY USED SUCKER.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:49 (fourteen years ago)
Tie-breaking criteria
For the World Cup tournament, FIFA uses the following criteria to rank teams in the Group Stage.[71]
1. greatest number of points in all group matches;2. goal difference in all group matches;3. greatest number of goals scored in all group matches;4. greatest number of points in matches between tied teams;5. goal difference in matches between tied teams;6. greatest number of goals scored in matches between tied teams;7. Paul the Octopus.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:54 (fourteen years ago)
Orakel-Krake
― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 12:04 (fourteen years ago)
hey you guys - need a streaming site that will work in france - preferably on the iphone (obviously iplayer and itv.com don't work, neither do catchuptv.com, or even my eurosport player) but I can always lunk the laptop up to the cabin (where I am now - wireless doesn't reach to caravan)
― problem chimp (Porkpie), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 12:07 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.eurovisionsports.tv/ is a thing they set up where euros can watch games + coverage from a euro country that isn't the one they are currently in.
― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 12:12 (fourteen years ago)
Zattoo?
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 12:13 (fourteen years ago)
justin.tv?
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 12:19 (fourteen years ago)
porkpie, ask again 10 minutes before the match and i'll find a few diff (usually illegal tho) ones going around. on the premiership thread we are usually able to provide viewing for anyone who asks to see a specific game, and most of them aren't televised as much as a blaudy world cup semi final.
btw i assume kick off is at 7.30 and not 3pm?
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 12:24 (fourteen years ago)
zattoo nicely signed up for - ta. Justin is a last resort as it always craps out halfway through games (in premiership at least), maybe sopcast.
Can't understand why I can't get eurosport player to work for le tour though - seeing as I know people who get it to work in the states.....
― problem chimp (Porkpie), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 12:25 (fourteen years ago)
yeah justin.tv should only ever be used for drunken viewings of 90s wrestling ppvs, myp2p.eu is where its at
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 12:29 (fourteen years ago)
veetle is usually okay, but i have noticed more often lately some of them cut out midway with a copyright message.
sopcast is my preferred viewer too
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 12:31 (fourteen years ago)
sopcast has a lot of safety issues hanging over it wrt to virus susceptibililty tho?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 12:57 (fourteen years ago)
i didn't know that. should i be alright if i have my norton360 enabled tho?
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 13:06 (fourteen years ago)
i'm only going on what i've been advised by compgeek friends, and the fact that it ate my brother's laptop. always felt safer with flash-based ever since.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 13:09 (fourteen years ago)
Best ask Paul the Octopus, better safe than sorry
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 13:11 (fourteen years ago)
Refuse to believe an octopus can have any interest in a game where you're not allowed to use your arms. </stolenfromthewebsomewhere>
― anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 14:09 (fourteen years ago)
Have been down about the Paul the Octopus all the day! Either he'll be wrong or Germany will lose, kind of a bummer either way.
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 14:35 (fourteen years ago)
Yes, will be a shame if Paul is proven to be fallible
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
cassandra was right, it really is a curse
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
They're ready, or something like that:
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2010/0703/soc_g_sneijder_forlan_sy_576.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago)
tonight is sneijder's night, sry diego
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 14:47 (fourteen years ago)
Where in the World Cup is Sry Diego?
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago)
if tonight's game isn't settled by a controversial decision/cheating I want my money back.
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago)
Uruguay being there is already all of that tbh
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.fifa.com/imgml/tournament/worldcup2010/referees/196867.jpg
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago)
this world cup would have been so much better with an arshavin
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago)
that was apropos of nothing
http://images.smh.com.au/2010/07/06/1678558/OCTOPUS-420x0.jpg
He's ready
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
wrong game?
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago)
8 ball
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzSAIrJuYIg
He's r... DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP DENNIS BERGKAMP
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago)
pretty sure that Paul the Octopus is angrily shaking his fist at someone in the distance up there.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago)
Uruguay with no Suarez ;_; I would love Uruguay to find a way to beat douchey Holland.
Soccer-related but not specifically 2010 World Cup --- did anyone happen to catch ESPN's 30 for 30 on the Escobar/Columbian national team? Powerful stuff. O_O
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago)
I'll be cheering for Uruguay but I gotta say I think this is the end of the road for them
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 17:43 (fourteen years ago)
fuck Uruguay
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 17:45 (fourteen years ago)
(fyi)
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 17:46 (fourteen years ago)
Rooting for Holland, personally. No hatred for Uruguay but I don't want them in the final.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 17:47 (fourteen years ago)
I just can't stand the thought of more jubilant-Sneijder footage.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 17:48 (fourteen years ago)
rooting for uruguay just to see forlan in field one more time
― moullet, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 17:50 (fourteen years ago)
hi dere what did uruguay do wrong besides disrespect paraguay by stealing 1/2 their name obv
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 17:50 (fourteen years ago)
vamos uruguay en mi opnion
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago)
I'd rather watch him in La Liga and as has been said, w/o Suarez, I don't think Forlan will look the same anyway. I have no problem w/jubilant Sneijeder footage - he's had a good year and it's enteratinign (for me) to see Robben play well, too.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago)
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:50 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
history bores will point to kicking the shit out of pele & garrincha, new bores will point to being dirty enough to get 2 players sent off in this one comp. forlan is p unlikable too, although i think i can just enjoy him again after the europa league semi finals.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 17:59 (fourteen years ago)
im not talking about football, im talkin about his hair
― moullet, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:01 (fourteen years ago)
not surprisingly, ESPN is going with the Ghana-esque "Uruguay carrying the hopes of S. America" -- lolz
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:02 (fourteen years ago)
I'm just holding out hopes of a Youtube clip of some Dutch commentator going crazy over a Dennis-style ROBIN VAN PERSIE ROBIN VAN PERSIE ROBIN VAN PERSIE ROBIN VAN PERSIE ROBIN VAN PERSIE ROBIN VAN PERSIE ROBIN VAN PERSIE wonder goal.
Far more likely to see ten minutes of stoppage time added on whilst they drive an ambulance onto the pitch to pick up his shattered remains, though.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:04 (fourteen years ago)
xpost -- Hey, a coworker just said a Peruvian friend was telling him "All of South America, of Central America, want Uruguay to win." Then again maybe that's what Peruvians say.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:05 (fourteen years ago)
blatant fuckoff cheating nonsense re: the unforgivable handball in the Ghana match tbh
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:05 (fourteen years ago)
also their star dude wears a headband
a HEADBAND
also they used The Force to misdirect that Ghanaian PK
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago)
i super dislike holland so i want them to lose, but on the other hand it would be nice to root against them in the final
― the boy boy young messi (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago)
dutch the only team with an arsenal player left but on the other hand, it is the least likable arsenal player... rooting for whoever wins this tie i guess. <3 gio van bronk 4eva tho
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:11 (fourteen years ago)
You're forgetting Cesc now, a hoy hoy.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago)
gonna be pulling for uruguay i think
i dunno---i'll decide on the way to the bar
― fresno's wet (gbx), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago)
xp Or maybe you're not, considering his Barca DNA.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago)
so with Uruguayan "garra" and Dutch diving will this be the ugliest WC semifinal ever??
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago)
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:13 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah didn't think this needed to be said.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago)
yeah that totally sucked & I loved Ghana, too
still, I gotta let that pass in the hopes of avoiding an all-Euro final
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:15 (fourteen years ago)
anyone get a screencap of the GRACIAS SUAREZ sign? feel like it can have potential if he comes to the premiership.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago)
quite honestly I don't give a fuck if it's an all-Euro final, I care more about handball douchebags not winning the World Cup
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago)
I'm so tired of this argument - it's pretty standard soccer strategy that's why that's an automatic red, just like last defender taking out an attacker w/chance on goal. Sure you can be cynical and gamble but you're only going to have ten men afterwards (and in most competitions the carded player won't be available for at least one if not more subsequent games). As a USA fan, I was rooting for Ghana (so the team that has sent us out twice weren't just some piddling chancers) but this whole cheating hoopla fails to take into account (whether you like it or not) how the game is played around the world. If you want to be mad, Dan, be as mad as
http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2010/07/02/102589869_wide.jpg?t=1278105618&s=3
Appiah here is w/Gyan for a poor penalty kick which would have made Suarez's louche move moot. I was so disappointed I failed to go congratulate some Uruguyans I know. They're nice guys and I know they would have been awfully happy on Friday but I couldn't have stomached it.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago)
Ghana vs Holland would have been epic, too.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:23 (fourteen years ago)
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Tuesday, July 6, 2010 2:05 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is soccer my man, everyone wears headbands
― max, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago)
arent you a tennis fan anyway?
this Netherlands team is a bunch of seriously weird looking dudes.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago)
this guy is someone right
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_T3-T6ewXLYk/SkL_4jwHrZI/AAAAAAAAAjo/kV9DnqYzpb8/s320/lebron+james+with+headband.jpg
dont see the fuss tbh
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago)
AFRICA CITY AFRICA CITY
f this 'uruguay have plucky african passion and colour, holland play ugly' shit. do these cunts even think before they speak?
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago)
EEEEEEEEEEEEEELLL VIVOOOOOOOOOO
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago)
Winston complains if world cup polls dont get linked here so here we goQuickfire Poll: Spain vs Germany who will win?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago)
no second commentator for ITV? They didn't have anyone around capable of doing the job?
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago)
beglin died of tweedy malaria
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago)
course they don't have anyone capable of doing the job, add 'by their standards'.
good thing we bought those millions of Tweedy flu vaccinations last year.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:33 (fourteen years ago)
oh dirk
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:33 (fourteen years ago)
So 100% Clive T tonight. What fuckery is this? ITV epic fail AGAIN.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
can't tell if uruguay's keeper's all white kit is a stroke of genius or not
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago)
either he blends in completely with the goal so the dutch have no idea where he is or else he will stand out like a lab technician and the dutch will know where he is in relation to the goal at all times
tennis ppl have graduated to hats, this isn't the 70s anymore
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago)
http://cornedbeefhash.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/rafael-nadal-miami081.jpg
― max, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:37 (fourteen years ago)
This 100% Tyldesley experiment is just weird. Annoying as co-commentators are, at least two varieties of bland is better than the one guy chuntering on non-stop for an hour and a half.
― ailsa, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:37 (fourteen years ago)
Hate the "usually the Dutch are at each others throats by now" tired rhetoric. Don't remember there being any ructions in 2008 or 1998 etc
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago)
I'm so tired of this argument - it's pretty standard soccer strategy that's why that's an automatic red, just like last defender taking out an attacker w/chance on goal.
guess what even when cheats are punished people hold on to residual bad feeling for their cheating.
Dutch all the way here, love that one country.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago)
very OTM
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago)
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:38 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Didn't that '98 team FUCKING HATE each other and half the black/ajax players nearly walk out?
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago)
Get out of the way RVP!!!!!
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago)
Also:
it's pretty standard soccer strategy that's why that's an automatic red, just like last defender taking out an attacker w/chance on goal.
The only possible inference to be drawn from this being considered a standard strategy is that the punishment is not proportionate and needs to be looked at.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago)
this is already looking like a good match and i think we all know that beglin should now be seen as the reason the world cup started slowly and he should be banned from all football grounds ever
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago)
98 team got to the semi's only to lose on pens is all I remember.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago)
This hasn't started out cagey AT ALL, from either side. Lovin' it.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago)
Please don't use semi and pens so close to each other in a sentence. xp
― StanM, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago)
jgtohknpbm
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:47 (fourteen years ago)
wauw
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
GIO VAN BRONKMOTHERFUCKER!
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
whaaaaaaaat
― the boy boy young messi (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
fuuuuuuuuuuck
― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
OH YES
― if, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
BOOOOM
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
Wow amazing!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
geez
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
(fuck it's so hard to get the early goal 'post' on these threads innit)
holy shi.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
I LOVE FOOTBALL. That is all.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
no thats perfect it's fucking perfect
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago)
guess that answers the goalie/uniform question above
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago)
Taking out striker when he has a chance on goal is not as blatantly obstructing an actual real goal as hitting the ball off the line from zero yards away. Then again, there's a thread somewhere where LJ claims it isn't cheating at all, I suspect searching "Carlos Cuellar" would lead you to it. There's an element of doubt in the tackling-in-the-box thing where a penalty seems like a decent way of letting them have the possible shot on goal they might have got had they not been tackled, whereas "oh hai, some fucker stopped an absolute definite goal, why don't we give you a possible chance to maybe get a goal" just basically doesn't seem right. I think I agreed with Andy Townsend for the first time in my life pre-match when he said it really should be a penalty goal award, just let the team have the bloody goal anyway rather than getting them to try again from the penalty spot.
xposts, ooh, nice goal from the last ex-SPL player standing.
― ailsa, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago)
now I understand why players always take those shots from half court that sail over the goal
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago)
ailsa all that stuff about LJ in another thread was reposted in this one
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago)
It's like 1974 all over again.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago)
I was thinking what a dull game this was then GVB lets fly. Cracking stuff.
― State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago)
including the red card up yer arse video (at least twice)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago)
The replay from behind the goal was just so so beautiful.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:52 (fourteen years ago)
Now Holland have the lead they should sub Dirk off just before Forlan gets inspired by playing against a Liverpool player.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:54 (fourteen years ago)
stupid work distracting me from goals
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:54 (fourteen years ago)
So sorry for not reading this entire thread when I was on holiday. xpostz
(re my own assertion about GVB being the last ex-SPL player standing, has Braafheid done any standing yet, or is he just sitting on the bench while the world wonders why Holland have never sorted their left-back issues either. I'd actually forgotten he made the squad until I gave it some thought)
― ailsa, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:55 (fourteen years ago)
loool wait what happened?
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago)
Oof that replay.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
oh that'll hurt
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
getting kicked in the face is karma for all of their fake injuries throughout the tourney
― the boy boy young messi (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
De Zee-OW, more like
― ailsa, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
i dont think the ref knows what happened
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
They never do, lol amirite
― ailsa, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
I don't understand why soccer players don't just do bicycle kicks all of the time
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
― iatee, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
u fall on your head
― the boy boy young messi (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
a dutch player pushed caceres over. nothing much really.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
I thought Sneijder was going off there, which would've been bullshit x 1,000,000
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
dyao- follow the career of peter crouch.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
nice play, beautiful knee'd tackle.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago)
Oh if Robben could have stepped over that the other Dutch player was in I think.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago)
lol at this team getting indignant over another team diving
― the boy boy young messi (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
Did Tyldsley say 'shenanikins'?
I see Beglin is ill but will be back in the final to clear up the mystifying complexities the game presents to the untutored mind.
― GamalielRatsey, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago)
That statement works perfectly both ways tbfxp to Jordan
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
thread of missing suarez ;_;
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
lol uruguay don't bother getting ppl in the box yr only 1 down
― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
vuvuzelists killin it.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
forlan has the same wild eyed look as dirk nowitzki
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
we may now have a serie a thread title that outranks anything balotelli, cassano or ultras can achieve
The media in Argentina claim Napoli have offered Diego Armando Maradona the chance to be their Coach.El Pibe de Oro has hinted he will quit his job after the quarter-final World Cup exit, losing 4-0 to Germany.Maradona also stated in a recent Press conference that it was his “dream to one day be the Coach of Napoli.”Now television station Tyc Sports claims that Napoli have already contacted Diego to discuss this possibility.It is also possible Maradona could be welcomed back to the San Paolo as a director rather than a tactician.Current boss Walter Mazzarri only recently signed a new long-term contract.Maradona was a hero for the Napoli fans from 1984 to 1991, winning two Scudetti, a Coppa Italia, Italian Super Cup and UEFA Cup.
El Pibe de Oro has hinted he will quit his job after the quarter-final World Cup exit, losing 4-0 to Germany.
Maradona also stated in a recent Press conference that it was his “dream to one day be the Coach of Napoli.”
Now television station Tyc Sports claims that Napoli have already contacted Diego to discuss this possibility.
It is also possible Maradona could be welcomed back to the San Paolo as a director rather than a tactician.
Current boss Walter Mazzarri only recently signed a new long-term contract.
Maradona was a hero for the Napoli fans from 1984 to 1991, winning two Scudetti, a Coppa Italia, Italian Super Cup and UEFA Cup.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
woooooooooooooof.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
!!!!
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
there it is
― the boy boy young messi (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
oh yes
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
DIEGLOL FORLAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
wau
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
Fuck you Forlan.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
Knew it!
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
I love forlan
oh just excellent
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
― max, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
Game goddamn well on!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
Forlan srs master of making the keeper fuck up.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
lousy reaction by the gk but damn
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
almost took that one dude's head off
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
Haha why did the Dutch defender DUCK?
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
dutch keeper not as effective a flapper as suarez
― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
Goalie mistake, but that shot's ridiculously hard to deal with
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
dunno if it's been posted but they've said a couple of times that Forlan's old man was on the Uruguay team who lost to Holland back in the day
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
that curve on the ball is mental.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
"Forlan's old man" is making me lol for some reason
― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
what was the goalie's mistake? playing too far out?
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
ITV need to mic up the stadium better - I thought they'd all got it sorted after the first few games, but there's zero atmosphere coming across here.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
goalie didn't look prepared for any shot, and so was fucked up by the swerve. should be alert for every second of the game /cliche
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago)
Goalie mistakes: changing direction a fraction too late; not pushing the ball upwards hard enough
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago)
Since the first 20 mins Holland haven't offered anything.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago)
hah then was the dutch goal also the result of a goalie mistake?
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
isn't any goal the result of a goalie mistake?
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago)
dutch goal was the result of terrible defending imo. no way anyone should be given that much room to shoot.
/lj
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago)
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:17 (16 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
nonononononononononono
ok, i don't really care
two of the goals of the tourney surely
― fresno's wet (gbx), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
I thought the Uruguay goalie was at fault at first, but the replay shows it was just an utterly perfect shot.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
there's zero atmosphere coming across here.
Surely the number of commercial partners on jollies is rocketing up against the number of fans as the rounds progress?
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago)
some shots are unsaveable. that one wasn't.
― Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago)
although <3 forlán.
Just turned over to 5live and they were saying that Holland were given "a gift of a goal due to goalie's slow feet"! Gift of a goal??!! WTF! It was a beauty.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
VAMOS VAMOS VAMOS URUGUAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― moullet, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
World's trippiest Honda advert, there.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago)
couldn't miss from there
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago)
so cute to see all of montevideo jump up and down at the same time
― 156, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago)
I don't believe I've ever seen Uruguay before
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:23 (fourteen years ago)
van Bommel really is a nasty mofo
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago)
xxp Was expecting to see Pompey's bell ringer in amongst that lot.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago)
wow that dutch goal shouldn't have happened, van bommel made an awful challenge (def red card I'd say) on a Uruguyan in the build up. I hadn't seen that at the time though I remember Tyldsley mentioning a bad tackle by him.xxp
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:26 (fourteen years ago)
hey guys apparently Josh hartnett is three feet away from me. lol mn
― fresno's wet (gbx), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
lol at ITV's h-time with all Keegan's "if I were the coach" advise. Really Kevin?? Do tell.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
What this ITV team is missing is Big Ron Atkinson. I'm sure he would have loads of things to say about being in Africa.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:32 (fourteen years ago)
van bommel commited like 4 fouls in one half? and 3 were NASTY. red card imo.
― moullet, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:32 (fourteen years ago)
According to Wikipedia Big Ron is currently co-hosting a show on The Sun's online radio station. Fitting.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago)
were they actually nasty or 'i'm kerr and i like complaining about every tackle and ref' nasty?
also lol van bommel. dude is just a classy robbie savage.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago)
If a racist is racist alone in a forest on the radio, is it still racist?
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago)
i didnt see his 3 other bad tackles. I only just saw that one in the build up to the dutch goal.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
Van Bronkhurst, you jammy git.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago)
was almost a hand of god situation there
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago)
skelololololnburg
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago)
― fresno's wet (gbx), Tuesday, July 6, 2010 2:27 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark
lol where are you??
― goole, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
Van Marwijk looks like Alan Rickman in Dogma.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
Franciscus "Frank" de Boer still looks like a hard motherfucker on the bench in his M&S suit.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
The one before the goal was a stamp just below the knee. He pulled out a bit and it looked worse than it was, but he still stamped on the guy's leg.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago)
nice to see two teams trying hard to get to the final outdo each other in falling over and imaginary card waving.
― bielsa's heart rate (whatever), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
If the ref saw it, would have been advantage, goal, then pull him back to book him, I reckon (wasn't really paying attention to replay as I was on the phone, and didn't see it at the time, so apologies if I'm reading it all wrong).
― ailsa, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
ARJEN USE YR OTHER FUCKING FOOT
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
dutch midfield doing an england
― bielsa's heart rate (whatever), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
goole: nomad!
― fresno's wet (gbx), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
looooololololol
― goole, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
It was the run-up to the Dutch goal xp - he dummies a crossfirld pass by stepping over it & onto a Uruguayan leg
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
Sneijder with the best shot of the tournament- hopefully to be .gif'd.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago)
how many more is van bommel going to get away with?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
Roffle.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
"Diego Forlan pointing at the goal here as if he's a goalkicker."
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
No idea how he's still on the pitch tbh.
― Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
I reckon this might actually be a decent game if it had a proper soundtrack
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
forlan's legs are kind of short in proportion to his torso
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
I miss singing at games
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
arjen robben should just kill himself.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
hooooooo
― the boy boy young messi (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
lol robben's right foot
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
right foot lolololol
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
His right foot's just for standing on </my dad>
― ailsa, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago)
how did that happen
― the boy boy young messi (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
What the shit
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
is that in? robin van bastid
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
lol. "Uruguay are livid". Good.
― ailsa, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
ok he's onside, its fine, <3 u rapey van injury
ROBIN VAN PERSIE ROBIN VAN PERSIE ROBIN VAN PERSIE ROBIN VAN PERSIE ROBIN VAN PERSIE ROBIN VAN PERSIE ROBIN VAN PERSIE ROBIN VAN PERSIE ROBIN VAN PERSIE ROBIN VAN PERSIE ROBIN VAN PERSIE
Not clearly offside imo
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
no hes just offside
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
How is he not active in that play?
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
*befuddled*
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
Crikey, I think that probably was onside - god knows how they got that right
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
"Uruguay are livid". Good.
Karma's a bitch, eh?
This is some season for Wesley S. Crikey. Obviously he's not galactico worthy however.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
Whoa!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
his is some season for Wesley S. Crikey. Obviously he's not galactico worthy however.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:00 (5 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Wesley S Crikey to return to Real for ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOBBEN what was I saying?
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
I can hear cheers!
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
lol Robben remembers his feet are shite and goes for teh header instead.
― ailsa, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
RIP ;_;
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
Get In. Even his head is better than his right foot.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
ARJEN ROBBEN ARJEN ROBBEN ARJEN ROBBEN ARJEN ROBBEN ARJEN ROBBEN ARJEN ROBBEN ARJEN ROBBEN ARJEN ROBBEN ARJEN ROBBEN ARJEN ROBBEN ARJEN ROBBEN ARJEN ROBBEN ARJEN ROBBEN ARJEN ROBBEN ARJEN ROBBEN
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
(would take Arjen Robben's lolworthy feet in any team I support any day of the week, btw)
― ailsa, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
Robben and S Crikey to return to Real for 50m each rumours being written now.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
(would take Arjen Robben's lolworthy feetfoot in any team I support any day of the week, btw)
― ailsa, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:02 (27 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
His left is poss the best foot in world football.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago)
Hence why I'd take him in any team...etc etc. Was typing in hurry, blah blah.
― ailsa, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago)
Robben has the hopes of all of Africa on his feet, no wonder he can't shoot.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago)
this dutch team isnt any better than the italy team that won 4 years ago btw.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
That was actually a really really excellent header from Robben. It wasn't that easy a chance imo.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
First time a team has scored three in a WC semi since the Schumacher-Battiston epic of '82.
― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, but that Italy team kind of won a World Cup vs everyone else that was in that World Cup. That's sort of good in some respects, aye?
― ailsa, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
Look forward to Van Bommel's inevitable red card in the Final.
xp to Michael J - Really?? Wow!
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
Yes it is. That Italy team had 5 great players (Buffon, Cannavaro, Nesta, Pirlo, Totti) while this one has 6? Sneijder, Robben, de Jong, van der Wiel, van Injury and van Bommel. And Andres Ooijer.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
(Hoping someone else scores, btw, as this is precisely how I envisaged it going and I even got three of the goalscorers right. Telling people at work that stuff and then not coming in the next day with yr pockets comically bulging with betting shop winnings is bad form).
― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
you guessed gvb?
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
Called it
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago)
It wasn't though ken. Van Bommel was Van Bommel.
Clive seems to have forgotten the 3rd place playoff exists. It still does, right?
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago)
It does aye, it's on Saturday night.
― ailsa, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago)
The Forlan vs Villa Golden Boot playoff
― if, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago)
robben you are a dick
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago)
― the boy boy young messi (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago)
God even his left foots malfunctioning now.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago)
fuckin ell Arjen, way to ruin the goal of the tournament.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
beautiful!
that night in barcelonaetc!
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
Blimey.
― ailsa, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
Ooh, this could be interesting.
― State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
http://cdn.guyism.com/wp-content/uploads/Bobbie-Eden-twitter.jpg
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
Is that the goal you needed Michael?
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
O why take off Forlan?
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
i wish van bommel would give away a penalty and get sent off
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
bit late booking that thug now, he should've been off over an hour ago.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
ref can't be bothered ending this one.
― stand under Eljero Elia, Elia, Elia (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
fergie time
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
yeah you have to love him for giving them some proper man utd stoppage time
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
ha xpost
Thought the ref would never blow!
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
BRIGHT ORANGE!
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
this def has been the most enjoyable world cup i have watched
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
Is Van Bommel suspended?
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
Please, please let Germany win so we can have the dirtiest WC final ever.
― State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
Last three minutes or so have been fun. Looking forward to the inevitable van Bommel winner in the final so that folk can go "he shouldn't have even been there to score it" and this can just be nothing more than the World Cup of shitty refereeing.
― ailsa, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago)
for one yellow card? nah he's still in.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago)
James. Booking in Semi-Final doesn't lead to suspension in Final.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
hahaha what happened to tyldsleys voice there when brommel was yellow carded
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago)
He wasn't booked in the quarters, so no.
― ailsa, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago)
And wonder why Caceres was chasing after RvP at the end?
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
bugger, I thought my new name was going to be doubly topical, but then Umbrella only makes it to #2 on the 2005-2009 tracks list. Thanks a bunch ILM.
ah shit and Pandemic, you're already going for the Elia pun. What a mess.
― stand under Eljero Elia, Elia, Elia (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
Objectively that should've been great, but for some reason it was actually terrible. Not the absence of Beglin & return of the killer bees surely?
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
ha, Southgate forgetting who was playing.
― stand under Eljero Elia, Elia, Elia (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
Phew, 3-2, I'm off the hook. For the record, my prediction was Kuyt 10' Forlan 35' (h-t) Sneijder 75' Robben 81'. Thought there'd be a couple of red cards though.
― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
You bastard xp - I'd been sticking to this thread all night to avoid spoilers.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
URUGUAY WERE ROBBED
― moullet, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
ah shit, sorry Ismael! Hasty mod can delete that if they'd like.
― stand under Eljero Elia, Elia, Elia (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:33 (fourteen years ago)
To be horribly parochial for a second, if any LFC player deserves to play in a WC Final after this crappy season it's Kuyt, well and Pepe Reina obv. but he won't start.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:33 (fourteen years ago)
― fresno's wet (gbx), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago)
The ITV coverage is pretty good if you condense down four weeks into a 60 second montage.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago)
The Last Temptation of...
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2010/0706/soc_netherlands_dj_576.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago)
Andy Townsend's such a knob. "Yeah he looks offside but if you look at it then it's actually another great decision from the linesman". No, cos he was offside you fucking insufferable gobshite.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago)
That was a fun game! Hope the Spain/Germany game is all pushy-shovy like that.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:43 (fourteen years ago)
Bye bye Diego, I will miss you!
― Cooper Temple Paws (NickB), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago)
Also...
http://s770.photobucket.com/albums/xx343/Mount_Analogue/?action=view¤t=forlan.jpg
That didn't work!
― Cooper Temple Paws (NickB), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:46 (fourteen years ago)
http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx343/Mount_Analogue/forlan.jpg
― Cooper Temple Paws (NickB), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago)
Ah!
I only saw the replays shown during the match (I almost never watch the pundits, especially on ITV), but he looked onside to me. He looked offside in real time, but on the replay he looked level when it was played, then it came off a defender and he didn't actually touch it himself.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
His right/left leg (can't remember which one) was beyond the last defender. Rule is if any part of the player's body they can score with is beyond the last defender then they're offside. Townsend acknowledged this when Soutgate brought it up, but still said something like, "Naaa, not havin' that", like he does every time there's a rule he doesn't like.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago)
But yeah, maybe debatable about whether or not he was "interfering with play", but Townsend's beef was that he wasn't physically in an offside position, when he clearly was.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago)
Rule is if any part of the player's body they can score with is beyond the last defender then they're offside
Ah, didn't know this. I knew the brief flirtation with the 'clear daylight' rule had ended, and in my own mind it was all about the torso-level-with-torso and who cares where the limbs are. When you say any part of the player's body the *can* score with, do you mean any part the are *permitted* to score with, or any part they are *able* to score with?
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago)
fuck holland imo
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago)
Bye Diego. [girly sigh]
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago)
He could be back for the 3rd place game.
― Mahindra Satyam people (dan m), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago)
Diego's not playing on Saturday?
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago)
Oh I forgot about the 'LOSERS WIN' game. <3
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago)
3rd place play-off.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:33 (fourteen years ago)
Van Persie didn't touch the ball- never heard the 'any part of body' interpretation before, but am willing to accept its veracity, if not application in this case
<3 Van Bommel, and I usually hate thugs that evade their just desserts.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:33 (fourteen years ago)
it'll be nice if mandela makes it for the final
but hard to see him pulling for a guy named "robben"
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago)
The dutch in SA thing has been kept v much under the radar, really
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:53 (fourteen years ago)
Can't imagine SA terribly thrilled by prospect of Dutch/German final.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 00:00 (fourteen years ago)
ILX vs Psychic Octopus
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 00:04 (fourteen years ago)
Excited for Germany/Spain tomorrow!!
― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 00:08 (fourteen years ago)
http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/blog/dirty-tackle/post/Modest-Dutch-only-booked-hotel-up-to-semifinal?urn=sow,253936
CAPE TOWN, July 6 (Reuters) - FIFA is hunting for a hotel for the Netherlands World Cup squad after the modest Dutch failed to book rooms so deep in the tournament.
― Popture, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 00:54 (fourteen years ago)
Wayne Rooney has a caravan they can borrow.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 03:43 (fourteen years ago)
They can all sleep in the same bed and play Dutch ovens :D
― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 03:51 (fourteen years ago)
just realized Hey, a euro team is gonna win dis ting outside of europe. we won't have to hear announcers repeat this chesnut ever again
― 156, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 04:43 (fourteen years ago)
"They did it in 2010, but can a Euro team ever win again outside of Europe?"
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 04:45 (fourteen years ago)
Meantime, they're ready...to cry?
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2010/0706/soc_g_jloewts_576.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 04:56 (fourteen years ago)
And if you want to look like him:
http://www.strenesse.com/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 04:58 (fourteen years ago)
muller got booked and will miss the semi-final, thnk that's what that's abt
― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 04:59 (fourteen years ago)
How did this get missed?
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00129/westwood_sticker_51_129681a.jpg
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/866233/ENGLAND-FANS-HAVE-ALREADY-MOVED-ON.html
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 06:40 (fourteen years ago)
Terrific game yesterday, would have loved Uruguay to have got a last gasp equaliser. Clearly Forlan has been on some kind of one-man goal of the tournament contest but that Van Bronckhorst strike yesterday was incredible. From what I could see the ref made the right call with the second Holland goal.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 08:44 (fourteen years ago)
xpost Great observation -
People had hoped and did believe in the dream but then they were just thinking this is it again and that's just what it is.
So basically he's saying 'what it is is this is it again'?
― GamalielRatsey, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 08:45 (fourteen years ago)
Should have been the new LCD Soundsystem album title imo.
― GamalielRatsey, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 08:46 (fourteen years ago)
If The Netherlands lose the final then New Zealand will be the only undefeated team of World Cup 2010
― Popture, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 08:59 (fourteen years ago)
From what I could see the ref made the right call with the second Holland goal.
Yeah it was just his leg sticking out, he barely moved and he never touched the ball. It would have been VERY harsh.
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 09:16 (fourteen years ago)
It also took a deflection towards him off a Uruguayan - not sure he'd've been interfering with play at all without that. I think it follows that the deflection is the touch that counts for determining whether he could be offside (i.e. he couldn't regardless of his position as the ball came off an opponent), but not 100% sure - would love caek's view on this one.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 09:22 (fourteen years ago)
http://twitpic.com/235hyp
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 09:24 (fourteen years ago)
I think it follows that the deflection is the touch that counts for determining whether he could be offside (i.e. he couldn't regardless of his position as the ball came off an opponent)
The clause allowing forwards to be "played on" by a deflection off a defender was eliminated (or clarified out of existence) in the late 1970s - I remember this cos it was the Rothmans Football Yearbook I got for Xmas 1979!
Van Persie was in an offside position - the leg is enough - but whether he was committing an offside offence is entirely down to interpretation of his actions.
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 09:33 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwZcHNxu3Nw
foul on gargano IMO
― moullet, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 09:42 (fourteen years ago)
We are Europe and we rule! Will cry if it's not a Germany vs. Holland final now. Now if only Holland would drop van Persie...
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 10:11 (fourteen years ago)
They looked much more useful with van der Vaart last night - if they would drop van Bommel for him, that'd be nice
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 10:15 (fourteen years ago)
Van Bommel is great though.
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 10:16 (fourteen years ago)
The football spying unit behind Germany's World Cup success was revealed yesterday - and it turns out England were beaten by a bunch of university students.A special research unit was set up at the German Univeristy of Sport in Cologne to monitor every player, in all domestic leagues and international matches.Each of Germany's 31 World Cup rivals were assigned two students who complied the most comprehensive dossier ever assembled with hours of video footage, statistics, strengths and weaknesses.England has two video technicians as part of their squad in Rustenburg, compared to Germany's army of researchers.
A special research unit was set up at the German Univeristy of Sport in Cologne to monitor every player, in all domestic leagues and international matches.
Each of Germany's 31 World Cup rivals were assigned two students who complied the most comprehensive dossier ever assembled with hours of video footage, statistics, strengths and weaknesses.
England has two video technicians as part of their squad in Rustenburg, compared to Germany's army of researchers.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:12 (fourteen years ago)
They looked much more useful with van der Vaart last night
ur rong imo
I can't understand how more teams don't do this- I was only thinking last night how predictable most players are when you've seen them 4 or 5 times.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:15 (fourteen years ago)
No need to do research into Eng or Arg with what they bought to their games this time round.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:24 (fourteen years ago)
"Blah blah blah if you look at the players we've got we shouldn't have to be afraid of anyone oh shit they've just scored"
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:25 (fourteen years ago)
^ predictable enough for anyone that had seen john terry, jamie carragher or g johnson 4/5 times this season, to be fair
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:27 (fourteen years ago)
The football spying unit behind Germany's World Cup success was revealed yesterday - and it turns out England were beaten by a bunch of university students.
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Revealed-The-army-of-university-students-behind-Germany-s-World-Cup-success-and-wins-over-England-and-Argentina-article514031.html
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 12:12 (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol they use prozone?
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:37 (fourteen years ago)
Bloody students
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:39 (fourteen years ago)
the most comprehensive dossier ever assembled
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/2458/leomessi3ha.jpg
― I'm being a smartass here, but in a fun way (NotEnough), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:43 (fourteen years ago)
You can't win anything with stats, Des
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:45 (fourteen years ago)
http://impedimento.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/forlan-em-todas-as-bancas-da-cidade.jpg?w=455&h=302
― moullet, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:52 (fourteen years ago)
Still seeking clarification on this:
>Rule is if any part of the player's body they can score with is beyond the last defender then they're offside
If your arm was 'offside', would that count? Because, as Maradona showed, you can score with your hand, even if you're not allowed to. Or if you had a particularly long handlebar moustache which had caught in the breeze and was flapping in an offside position, would that count? Because there's nothing in the rules about scoring with a moustache, but I doubt it's physically possible.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:54 (fourteen years ago)
no, has to be part of your body that yr capable of scoring with, i think
― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:56 (fourteen years ago)
So your arm would count?
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 12:00 (fourteen years ago)
u can't score with your arm by the rules of the game so i think no?
― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 12:03 (fourteen years ago)
If you had wrapped your dangling moustache around your hand before punching the ball, would that still count as handball? If not, then this opens up a new area for the offside debate.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 12:06 (fourteen years ago)
From the Interpretation of the Laws:
“nearer to his opponents’ goal line” means that any part of a player’s head, body or feet is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent. The arms are not included in this definition
― anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 12:07 (fourteen years ago)
Is a moustache part of your head?
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 12:08 (fourteen years ago)
clearly moustaches shld be made illegal on the field of play so this quandary can be avoided
― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 12:33 (fourteen years ago)
can be sharpened using wax and used to poke short opponents in the eye, demmed roguish behaviour
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 12:44 (fourteen years ago)
Mick Quinn's two years of intensive training for his Premiership comeback has all been for nothing ;_;
― Penius / JZA (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 13:30 (fourteen years ago)
I really hate Spain.
Nothing else to say.
― Pete W, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 13:33 (fourteen years ago)
will be happy to see some more villa magic, but i think i'm gonna be the only guy rooting for germany today.
― fresno's wet (gbx), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:03 (fourteen years ago)
Given the joy I've had watching them, I can't really root against Germany. I feel bad for Mueller, too; that handball yellow was utter bullshit.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:09 (fourteen years ago)
i think i'm gonna be the only guy rooting for germany today
rooting for zem
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:12 (fourteen years ago)
gbx i'm pretty sure there are loads of people rooting for Germany (I am!)! Unless you're on holidays in Spain or something of course.
― Jibe, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago)
I'm rooting for spain cuz they've never won a world cup (weird american everyone-should-be-equal sentiment coming out here)
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
that's an american sentiment?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
I dunno I like to project
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago)
http://i46.tinypic.com/29gokuv.jpghttp://i46.tinypic.com/29gokuv.jpghttp://i46.tinypic.com/29gokuv.jpg
― moullet, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, darraghmac, it kind of is. Sometimes we're kind of sentimental that way.
I hear you dyao but Spain have already won the European Championship and Argentina and Brazil were both taken out by European sides and this German team is like France '98 in its diversity and is so much more fun to watch than any German side I've ever watched and I kind of think that they've earned it, though if Spain beats'em then power to them.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:29 (fourteen years ago)
moullet, that's Suarez, isn't it?
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, his reaction to gyan missing the penalty
― moullet, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
MW :)
I like Germany at this tournament- young, football's good, they've shown up match after match.
Spain have played within themselves for a lot of it. If it's one to carry on, I'm for Germany.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
Choices, choices:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-10-best-pictures-of-mick-jagger-at-the-world-c/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago)
What may make this interesting is that Spain aren't as feckless as England or as tactically stupid as Argentina to succomb to the German counters which make up much of their attacking or at least goal scoring threat, plus it's a semi in knock-out comp so who wants to fuck up?
I predict that many of my WC band-wagon compatriots may find this, or at least the first half, "boring".
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago)
Ned, no. 2.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago)
Especially since they're all looking different directions.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago)
Spain aren't as feckless as England or as tactically stupid as Argentina
True, but when they have to limit the attacking momentum of their possession, I'm not sure what the likes of Ramos (for instance) is going to do, nor whether they can then kick into 'end product gear' when the opportunity arises.
Spain will keep it all day, granted, but I've got faith in this German team having more up their sleeves than just one counter-attacking strategy, even if that's all they've needed so far.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
Spain will win, they've got Cesc Fabregas.
Not sure if I want them to win, though.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago)
Sorry to change the subject slightly but honestly, folks, what did you think of Holland's passing game yesterday?
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago)
I like Spain well enough, and David Villa is cuet...but I'm pretty sure Germany will smoke their asses. I've come around to the idea of NED/GER final. I wouldn't be sad if Spain won, all that being said.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago)
Want Germany to win, can see Spain going through though.
― orakle-krake (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago)
Spain-Ned final would be the best result I think - guaranteed a first-time winner.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago)
going to be in berlin over the weekend so want germany to win it now
― jabba hands, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago)
well the bar I've been going to has a pretty predictable supporter schema: if you've studied abroad there/had a life-changing trip there in yr 20s, you cheer for that team.
cue packs of 20something girls with cute Spanish flags on their cheeks. cf yesterday, with Dutch getting the support of all the 30 and up male soccer nerds ("eer heard of total football??") and college students who love weed
you'd think ger would be easy to cheer for in frikkin MN
― fresno's wet (gbx), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago)
Torres will get subbed out early if he doesn't intimidate Germany like he did in '08, for Llorentes mehtinks. Much of this will depend on Iniesta, Xavi, etc... shutting down those wing/center/wing fast exchanges on the counters. Both of these teams have already lost in this WC, remember.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago)
honestly, folks, what did you think of Holland's passing game yesterday?
I thought it was disrupted quite easily by Uruguay, but I also think that they don't rely on it to the extent that Spain would if their's was similarly disrupted.
Once they went counter, and Robben started to pass it within a reasonable time-frame of receiving it, they looked like the could score goals when needed. Robben had two very good chances in teh 2nd half from great passes/passing moves.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:08 (fourteen years ago)
I'd be very surprised if Germany went into this as defensive as they did against Eng/Arg- Spain are much better at keeping the ball that the former, and they can break down teams patiently unlike the latter. Lowe will set them up to play it quickly through the middle imo, see if Xavi fancies a defensive shift.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago)
are they gonna start fabregas?
― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago)
Disrupted easily? Hmm, I thought Uruguay were a very good side and often kept the Dutch pinned to the center of the field, but the Dutch did manage to keep good possession and advance and take shots on goal (just like Arsenal or 'Pool except for the last part) better, or at least, less predictably looking than Germany against Argentina. I really do think Argentina are a better side than the one which lost to Germany but their hearts weren't as steely as Uruguay's. They looked like England, tbf. One goal down and they gave up/were scared.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago)
Robben had two very good chances in teh 2nd half from great passes/passing moves.
Also v. Bronckhorst's goal and Kuyts shot over the bar in the first.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago)
I like how tonight's game sort of feels like a Final already.
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:16 (fourteen years ago)
V Bronckhort's goal- not sure you can put a strike like that into a performance rating, to be honest with you. it happens, or it doesn't, but the coach can't plan for it or anything.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:16 (fourteen years ago)
xp that's because either winner beats holland tracer
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago)
commas u r otm---this kinda IS the final for me. tho at least the real final will have two pretty "compelling" storylines. 74 redux v two virgin cupholders
― fresno's wet (gbx), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago)
V Bronckhort's goal- not sure you can put a strike like that into a performance rating
Fair enough but he could even have run further onto goal and gotten a pass/shot off. When he took that shot I cursed him for being wasteful so far out until it hit the upright and then, because of the camera angle and the fact that I was watching it streaming, it took me a half-second to reazlize it had gone in and not bounced back into the box.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
I mean they looked a lot more dangerous than Uruguay except that Uruguay had Forlan.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago)
I think that's it, Holland don't seem to play that well, certainly not in comparison to previous Dutch sides, but they're deadly when it matters.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago)
They really lost discipline in the last couple of moments, though. That last Uruguay goal (and the corner whence it came) was what baseball fans would call an error - totally defendable imo.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago)
No way this feels like a final, especially after the Dutch put out Brazil.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago)
Uruguay's run hasn't been all that bad and past expectations/reputations don't play in this world cup no matter what their pedigree. Mexico, heck even France aren't bad sides or easy to beat and neither was Ghana's.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/IGXsR.jpg
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago)
Do we have the teams yet? So excited for this one.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago)
Pedro starts, Torres and Fabregas on the bench.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:22 (fourteen years ago)
Germany: Neuer, Boateng, Mertesacker, Friedrich, Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Khedira, Trochowski, Özil, Podolski, Klose
Spain: Casillas, Capdevila, Pique, Ramos, Busquets, Alonso, Iniesta, Xavi, Villa, Pedro, Puyol
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago)
Torres and Fabregas on the bench.
At last, sense prevails
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:30 (fourteen years ago)
Wooo Pedro. I like that dude, even if he has that funny dna.
Holland's passing game was nice. I fucking hate this commentator ideal of them having to play total football like back in the days before sacchi/eastern europe invented defending.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:30 (fourteen years ago)
pedrito is good
― moullet, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:39 (fourteen years ago)
So, that's a 4-3-3 for Spain, eh?
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago)
really feel germany are going to win this. can see spain mirroring the argentinian performance, refusal to go down the wings beyond the 18 yard line...endless square passing back into centre, bludgeoned by boateng, lose the ball. repeat.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:57 (fourteen years ago)
Sign in crowd: "ALSO OCTOPUS CAN BE WRONG"
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago)
Is anywhere streaming? I am in the UK but sharing a flat with a football hater = no BBC for me
― atoms breaking heart (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.footyfire.com/
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago)
BBC site has a stream, natch.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:23 (fourteen years ago)
Oops, so it does! Was looking in the wrong place and assumed there wasn't one. Thank you both.
― atoms breaking heart (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago)
I didn't realise just how good Villa's goal v Paraguay was 'til they replayed it just now - up with any in the tournament for me.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago)
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
ugh I hate people who do that
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
Hi guys! I see I've missed about a million World Cup posts since I left the Internet - I'll catch up later. Stoked for this game tonight though a bit annoyed I put my 2-1 Germany bet on before finding out Torres was dropped - they've gone up a notch every time he's left the field so far.
― Psykoan (onimo), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
pedro already making spain look 100% more exciting
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago)
probing, probing
what's possession so far, like 90-10?
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago)
what was ste lolling at?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago)
Germany have 9 players back right now
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago)
dude running on the pitch after 4 minutes i guess. didn't even have the decency to streak when losing his ticket or any other fifa ticket in the future
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago)
Spain are going to walk this ball into the net
― Psykoan (onimo), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago)
Was that the Barca president who charged into the field to get to Cesc?
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago)
Spain certainly play like that team from the Simpsons
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago)
Ooh. I guess Spain have turned up at last. Not sure about Germany yet.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago)
of course germany have turned up. defending also = an art.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago)
centre holds its! holds it! holds it!
is Lawro on about anything in particular when he suggests that Boateng won't be playing left back for Man City?
― stand under Eljero Elia, Elia, Elia (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago)
because he's a centre half by trade? although boateng out of position >>> silvinho >>> bridge.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago)
LAWRO HATES PAUL THE OCTO!
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
ah, I'd only heard him referred to as a left back.
so hope that Spain win with a handball so I can use the phrase HAND OF CEPHALOPOD.
― stand under Eljero Elia, Elia, Elia (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
he's fearful for his prediction article on the bbc sport site. that keeps him in booze and golf balls.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:48 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
its ok, he has a plan for him.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
What is this octopus stuff about?
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
lawro sounds unbelievably pissed off for someone who is at the world cup semi-final
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
It's his thing though isn't it - he probably says "best blow job ever" in the exact same voice.
― Psykoan (onimo), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
delightful image you've evoked there.
― stand under Eljero Elia, Elia, Elia (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago)
You're welcome :)
― Psykoan (onimo), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
Spain need to cut out this Arsenal shit
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
So...nothing's happening??
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
Just took a quick walk over to my boss' office and counted 5 desks w/ this game streaming on computers (not counting my own).
― it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
spain/arsenal/barcelona...this footie is sort of over right? (even if spain win)
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
You couldn't be more wrong
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
Ozil's gaze reminds me of Christopher Walken's
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
Özil's got a sort of David Cameron thing going on tonight
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
Klose seems to spend half of his time apologising to people he tackles, awfully nice fellow.
― stand under Eljero Elia, Elia, Elia (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
Germany 2010, the invention of austerity football.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
germany totally gonna steal one here if spain don't gain more courage in that box
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
steal 'it' i should say
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
Germany have been a bit disappointing. Almost as if their young team has realized they're in a semi and the fear has struck. Spain have been the better side so far.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago)
Thought that was a penalty
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago)
but god knows who will win
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
boateng is twice as tall as everybody around him
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
I once got annoyed with anti-Barca challops on here but I'm beginning to think this might be true. It's so great to watch when it's effective but when it breaks down it's horrible to watch. Makes me think pass completion is a pointless statistic as half of the passes seem pointless (to this untrained eye).
This game need Torres so Villa can get annoyed about playing out of position and will start doing something useful.
― Psykoan (onimo), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
hmmm looked outside the boxxxp
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago)
kooooooo, Pedro shoulda gone that alone, right-footedness be damned.
― stand under Eljero Elia, Elia, Elia (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago)
booming, post
― fresno's wet (gbx), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago)
I hope this boring game doesn't go into extra time
― iatee, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
Come for the boredom, stay for the boredom
― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
Since the statistic was first tracked starting in 1966, Spain has now become only the third team to complete 3,000 passes at a single World Cup. (Brazil, 1994 & Netherlands, 1998)
― mizzell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
erm....what's up with lawro and the main commentator here....is it just me or do they actually hate each other
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
what's the record?
― iatee, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
I don't see the 'boring' part of this game. Spain need to up their game and have more people attack but that complaint isn't new, they still really don't need Xabi, Xabi Alonso AND Busquiets but could do with a pacy winger to join Villa in the box. Germany look nice on the counter attack.
Don't see how this kind of football is 'over' though. It's ridiculously effective at the higher levels of the game and Chelsea, Utd, Real, Bayern (yes incl. half this German team) etc. have all tried to blend in a more patient passing game in the past couple years.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago)
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH VILLA SO CLOSE
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
hoooooooo
― altered scones (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
Let's tell Raoul Moat that Lawrenson slept with his missus.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
alonso having a great game.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
That was beautiful. You can't live with them when they play like that.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
erm....what's up with lawro and the main commentator here....is it just me or do they actually hate each other― I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:41 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:41 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
if you had to sit next to http://www.chickendinner.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/marklawrenson.jpg...
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
we have a game???!!!
― fresno's wet (gbx), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
Calling you on Utd there xxxxxpost
Utd playing patient passing = Utd playing shit.
― Psykoan (onimo), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
yeah idg people who say this game is boring. much more exciting to me than yesterday's game. the other team can't score if you always retain possession of the ball iirc
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
Not boring, this is so intense
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
Utd playing patient passing = Berbatov and Scholes start.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
the drama and what's at stake makes it a great game, but more in a who's going to crack sort of way.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
I'm enjoying it too, Spain have really opened up but the Germans still look dangerous when they get it.
― Psykoan (onimo), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
it's really pretty to watch spain's offense all of a sudden snap into focus for an attack
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
This game need Torres so Villa can get annoyed
Or Llorente?
Germany missing Mueller
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
So, rare and rarely effective (unfounded statement tbh as I can't be arsed checking during the game but it seems that way to me)?
― Psykoan (onimo), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
this is not at all boring
― fresno's wet (gbx), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago)
basically MW prediction otm wrt first half tho
busquets hasn't done a single thing for the entire half, when was the last time you heard his name mentioned?
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago)
30 seconds ago
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
am i bovvered?
― bielsa's heart rate (whatever), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
less than a minute ago iirc xps
― it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:51 (38 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Well yes I have spent the whole comp calling his place pointless.
Or alternatively, we can talk in cliches "a great defensive midfielder is one you never even notice". (Gilberto Silva was even nicknamed the Invisible Wall).
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
much more exciting to me than yesterday's game. the other team can't score if you always retain possession of the ball iirc
Don't see any connection between those two sentences. Ball possession is effective, that doesn't make it exciting.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
x-post right yeah he's having a great game, one mention in the half, get cesc on ffs.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
Love watching Iniesta, such a great touch & has the picture of the game in his head thing sussed.
― Psykoan (onimo), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
even though Germany haven't been very good I cant help feeling they will breakaway with a devastating counter attack
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
ooh, Kroos probably had time + space to do more with that.
― stand under Eljero Elia, Elia, Elia (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
and they nearly did!xp
ha, i was agreeing with you in saying he was pointless, i just haven't gone into cliche mode in a good... hour or so.
Kroos needs to go sit in a corner with Robben.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
no i know you were, don't worry.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago)
the badge on Kroos' shirt is falling off, surely as symbolic as when the heel of one of my work shoes came off on my way home from the last day of my job last week.
― stand under Eljero Elia, Elia, Elia (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago)
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
meh the hair scores
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
Brilliant!
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
Espana!
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
magnificent header
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
wow he flew in there huh
― altered scones (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
new world cup winner
Towering header
― Psykoan (onimo), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
Makes up for the one he missed earlier
tippy tappy tippy tappy tippy tappy tippy tappy tippy tappy tippy tappy HEY JUS KIDDIN LOL.
― stand under Eljero Elia, Elia, Elia (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
I love goals like that more than any others.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
terrific header but i really fucking dislike puyol, excellent player that he is
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
this is gonna be a great last 20 minutes
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
Incredible power
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
howard stern scores!
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
forget the passing, let's just go set piece route one
― bielsa's heart rate (whatever), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
puyol sounds like a curse word
― altered scones (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
great goal imo
― it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
captain cavemaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnn
Puyol has hair that Chris Waddle would have been ashamed of in the early '90s.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
Really? I mean it's not even the best kind of headed goal, never mind the best kind of goal.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
― fresno's wet (gbx), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
spain just needs to do this possession thing for 20 more minutes
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
Don't think the Germans have an answer here tbh - they've been playing counter-attack for so long here I can't see them pushing the game.
― Psykoan (onimo), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
C'MON DER BOYZEN
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
really hate nike for promoting this horrid silver/pink color scheme
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
Villa so close to breaking through there.
― stand under Eljero Elia, Elia, Elia (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
lol whatever
― it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago)
Opta says that was Puyol's first ever shot on target in a World Cup.
― Psykoan (onimo), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago)
I love goals like that more than any others
I still think Robben's goal was the best yesterday. V.Bronckhorst's was great and Forlan's magisterial but Robben absolutely meant his - it wasn't an attempt, he knew he had it, if delivered right, and he did.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago)
Who's Arsenal now?
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
'he wins the ball. what's wrong with that?'
'you're supposed to say "nothing"'
'i AM saying nothing'
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
Oh yes it is xp - big guy barrelling in at full pelt, scattering a crowd is an awesome sight
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
Dithering passes in front of goal instead of a proper strike?
Villa off?
― it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
Torres on. You think Germany are gonna do it now?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
nah, put a fork in em they're done
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
o ffs Pedro.
― stand under Eljero Elia, Elia, Elia (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
snrk
― it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
You dick.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
why didn't he pass that :(
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
pedro you fool
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
lol pedro you prick
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
Ha ha, Torres. It's not '08, is it?
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
Pelanties now will be hilarious.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
Wait, that was Pedro?
If Germany equalise they will def go on to win.
Who's Arsenal now?― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:05 (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:05 (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
couldn't find '1-0 to the arsenal' but instead found this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvdQo8b-OJU
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
a hoy hoy, I meant Germany passing around the box to no effect on that attack when Oezil got mugged.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
should've been a foul eh?
― altered scones (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago)
Adios, conyo...
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago)
Where did Silva sign for? Man City?
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah that sounds way more like us. Did it go out for a Germany throw in in their own half?
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:12 (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Yes. Also Daniel Sturridge left for Chelsea iirc.
Keane to Celtic I heard.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago)
Ardiles and Villa have gone to Spurs.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
haah what aws the point of that ritual between the spanish goalkeeper and the german dude
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
goodbye matching unwashed v necks
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
Marchena, the most evil man in football.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
well done Spain, you deserved it in this match.New world cup winners at last!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
DAMN YOU OCTOPUS
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
have you never heard about kevin keegan liking to CONTROVERSIAL MODERATOR EDIT then? xpost.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
underrated aerosmith can be happy, no Germany in the final!
HURRAH THE OCTOPUS
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
I'm so glad for Spain but equally sad for one of the most entertaining sides I've ever seen at this level.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
Utterly deserved win.
― StanM, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
I think I would be happy if germany placed 3rd in every world cup
― iatee, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
"an Alexi Lalas kind of goal, big ol' hairy guy going up for it"
― it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
Ah, sorry to lose Germany, but it would've wrong if you'd won tonight. Actually it would've been right given how frustrating Spain were in the box
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
can we get paul the octopus in on some sort of betting rig next season?
Schweinsteiger and Iniesta exchanging shirst almost brings tears to my eyes.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
muller missing: the diff?
― fresno's wet (gbx), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
Germany presumably favourites for the next 2 comps though (if they can find a new striker), so i'm sure they're fine.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
Goodbye to another European powerhouse
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
aww @ jersey xchange
can't believe the german dude wiped his face w/ the spanish player's jersey after that though
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, July 7, 2010 4:22 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark
yeah I felt a twinge too
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
Del Bosque on Univision. WHAT a voice
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
http://seleccion.esfutbol.es/uploads/esfutbol.es/othumbs/lg_del_bosque.jpg
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
Its a pity Germany didn't play as attacking as they had done previously. Spain really did outplay them and I did not expect that. Best team on the day definitely won.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
Haha yes, how witty and true
Dom Passantino
― altered scones (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
― fresno's wet (gbx), Wednesday, July 7, 2010 4:22 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
difference was spain was the best team they played against.
― mizzell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
fuck off about zonal marking shearer you massive cunt kthanxbye.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
Hup Holland Hup all the way through Sunday, now.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
― Puyol Live in a Yellow Submarine (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
They didn't because they couldn't - the defence splitting diagonal passes that tore up England and Argentina weren't on because Spain always had someone in the way. Everyone talks about Spanish possession, and patience and all, but during the rare passages when they don't have the ball, they know exactly how to get it back. They're not going to get caught on the break.
― sonofstan, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
Countdown on.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
Roffle:
Trending: Worldwide * Xabi Alonso * Iker Casillas * Ezequiel Neves * Mick Jagger * Toni Kroos * Pulpo Paul * Ringo Starr * Furia Roja * Sergio Ramos * Fernando Torres * Despicable Me -- Promoted
* Xabi Alonso * Iker Casillas * Ezequiel Neves * Mick Jagger * Toni Kroos * Pulpo Paul * Ringo Starr * Furia Roja * Sergio Ramos * Fernando Torres * Despicable Me -- Promoted
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago)
Tabloid papers for the next week are now gonna be full of the usual bullshit about the 1548 Dutch war for independence from the powerful Spanish monarchy of Philip II which led to the secession of the seven provinces which eventually formed the Dutch Republic.
*sigh*
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago)
Van Bommel vs tippy tappy in the final, this should be fun.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago)
xpost -- And you just sat by and did nothing all those years, you horrible man.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago)
kicky kicky vs tippy tappy
― Puyol Live in a Yellow Submarine (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago)
Gouda vs. Manchego etc.
shit makes me sick
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago)
Man, don't be dissing gouda or manchego
― Puyol Live in a Yellow Submarine (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago)
Tabloid papers for the next week are now gonna be full of the usual bullshit about the 1548 Dutch war for independence from the powerful Spanish monarchy of Philip II which led to the secession of the seven provinces which eventually formed the Dutch Republic.*sigh*
I don't think that's true
― fresno's wet (gbx), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago)
One's good for a salad, the other's Gouda
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago)
Final - 80 years war3rd Place - Please, let's not talk about after the war
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago)
dont yall think that paul the octopus should make his pick for the game at the center of the field after the nat'l anthems are sung
― altered scones (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago)
too much of a psyche blow to the unpicked, self-fulfilling imo
― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
Some of these little post-match films have been great.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago)
paul the octopus should make his pick for the game at the center of the field after the nat'l anthems are sung
Then everyone can just go out and get crunk.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago)
wait I just saw the result, lol
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:43 (fourteen years ago)
the orakel-krake is restricted to german games apparently
― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:43 (fourteen years ago)
'80 years war and no World Cup'
― sonofstan, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago)
5Live just aired a bunch of comments from drunken no-nothing twats moaning about the game being boring.
― Puyol Live in a Yellow Submarine (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago)
seedorf's piece here is fairly good
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago)
You can't expect an octopus to examine the stats for all the sides in the tournament, give him a rest.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago)
xpost yes, he has the advantage over Shearer of seeming quite bright and over Lawrenson of seeming to be a human being capable of basic emotional connections.
― stand under Eljero Elia, Elia, Elia (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
5Live can get to fuck then. No way was that boring. Seen many worse semi finals. (seen many worse games this tournament)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
It was a terrific match. All that was wrong was Germany not quite being at it.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:51 (fourteen years ago)
If people don't like football that should probably not watch it IMO
― ears are wounds, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:52 (fourteen years ago)
Germany were exactly as at it as they were allowed to be. First serious competition they'd had in the knockouts.
― Puyol Live in a Yellow Submarine (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:52 (fourteen years ago)
"Rourke's Drift, made famous by the film Zulu."
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:52 (fourteen years ago)
I really enjoyed that game. Didn't reach the highs of Germany-Italy 2006 but was never less than completely engaging. Thought Spain were excellent, especially in central defence, which I was not expecting. Germany caused them very few problems. Felt like I was watching an entirely different game from the BBC commentators in the first half when they were grumbling about Spain and seemed to think that Germany were on top. Not sure that the Final will be as good but I'm okay with either of these teams winning it.
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:52 (fourteen years ago)
*they
― ears are wounds, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:53 (fourteen years ago)
Oh yeah, I agree nv. For all I moaned about Spain, Barca et al being a dull watch, they are thrilling to see against top opposition.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:54 (fourteen years ago)
Current trending topic:
http://twitter.com/#search?q=Schade%20Deutschland%20alles%20ist%20vorbei
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago)
Paul the Octopus is English? This is outrageous.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:56 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah I was hooked on that game from the start, Spain in that sort of commanding form are really mesmerising even if it isn't all goals goals goals. Rather too many of their attackers going for heroic solo goals when there was a team-mate unmarked in the penalty area screaming for it though.
Definitely a first time winner! Exciting.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:56 (fourteen years ago)
PAUL THE OCTOPUS FOR THE FINAL!
FINALLY ENGLAND HAS SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF. GOD SAVE OUR GRACIOUS QUEEN.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago)
I'm signing Paul the Octopus up for the SPL predictor next season to have a fighting chance of winning.
― ailsa, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago)
Who's this doing 'Move On Up'?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:58 (fourteen years ago)
Even tho I'm dying of flu I did have a little scream at Pedro when he fucked up that 2 on 1 at the end.
― Puyol Live in a Yellow Submarine (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:59 (fourteen years ago)
btw, have a fiver e/w on Spain, and can't find my betting slip. Considering suggest-banning myself from life for having just spent five minutes in the garden rooting through my recycle bin.
― ailsa, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:59 (fourteen years ago)
be glad you didn't compost it
― Puyol Live in a Yellow Submarine (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago)
xxps Angélique Kidjo, off the official FIFA album.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago)
I might have done, I certainly haven't put in the recycle bin. Annoyingly I have found the other slip I put on at the same time, the utterly stupid top goalscorer bets I put on Torres and Gilardino and Podolski :-/
― ailsa, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago)
Thanks James xp
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago)
everyone should consult paul the octopus to see if it's worth buying a season ticket for your team.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago)
muller missing: the diff?― fresno's wet (gbx), Wednesday, July 7, 2010 8:22 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― fresno's wet (gbx), Wednesday, July 7, 2010 8:22 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
called it
― bielsa's heart rate (whatever), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago)
well, i didn't on ilx but i did at home, you did on ilx. internet credit where it's due.
intense adidas infographics
http://theoriginalwinger.com/2010-07-07-the-numbers-behind-the-game
also lol @ "worthless" NZ defender... ah, MLS
― it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago)
Don't believe there's enough hair on Samaras' face, tbh.
― ailsa, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago)
very happy spain came through. germany had a great tournament but spain too strong. they missed muller. expect spain to go on now and do the euro/world double.
― bielsa's heart rate (whatever), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago)
how do they differentiate the web searches for american 'football' and 'football'. I am guessing they didn't.
― iatee, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago)
Basically if Holland win = writing past wrongs off as a great nation finally gets the cup.
BUT Spain lose = writing new wrongs and joining WC folklore as one of those memorable teams who, in the end, lost (Hungary '54 etc)
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago)
― bielsa's heart rate (whatever), Wednesday, July 7, 2010 2:05 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
*Ahem*
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, July 7, 2010 12:48 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago)
Just three goals required over the weekend and WC2010 will have edged past WC1990 for goals/game. Phew. What were we moaning about? And the 3rd-place playoff is always a bit of a ding-dong. 7-3 to Germany, Klose/Forlan hat-tricks, I reckon. Final 1-0 to Spain, Torres.
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:37 (fourteen years ago)
Final 1-0 to Spain, please god anyone but Torres
― Puyol Live in a Yellow Submarine (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:38 (fourteen years ago)
Final 1-0 to Spain, Torres, tap in from very very close range
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago)
No way xp, Germany already have the 'memorable team who didn't win' slot sewn up this year. I feel a poll coming on...
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago)
Everybody still assumes both legendary bottlers Holland and legendary bottlers Spain actually turn up to play in the final. It could still be a stadium of fans and vuvuzelas and no players.
― Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:42 (fourteen years ago)
Final 1-0 to Spain, Torres.
Good call - bundled in off his knee, late in the second half.
Were there any cards in that game? I can't remember one. Apparently, according to RTE, there was a 26 minute stretch in the first half without a single free for a foul. Corinthians, the lot of them. Like whoever said it above, I was choking up for Schweinsteiger too.
― sonofstan, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago)
both legendary bottlers Holland and legendary bottlers Spain
I am praying for a 3-2 game.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago)
Wins against shit defending => memorable? Said it way back but they are an good outfit, mostly young, who might win in four years.
Whereas Spain play football in a way that hasn't REALLY been seen before at international level (?), at least in my lifetime. But again that's all just reading about the Hungarians/Dutch/Brazil '82.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago)
No cards - so awesome!
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago)
Brazil 50, Hungary 54, Portugal 66, England 70, Holland 74, Brazil 82, France 82, Cameroon 90, Argentina 06, Germany 10 - who else?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago)
Ghana 10, maybe? If Cameroon are in there...
Maybe another Eastern European team? Bulgaria 94
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:54 (fourteen years ago)
So at least some folks from the Nike ad are in the final.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:54 (fourteen years ago)
Looking at the list again, all of them other than Portugal and Germany ultimately beat themselves to some extent by throwing it away - so Ghana 10 definitely qualify on that score. They're the Dean/Morrison/Cobain of world cup footy.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago)
I hope van Bommel breaks all their legs and gets away with it and Holland win 8-0
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:00 (fourteen years ago)
I wonder if Germany's first good counter, the one that broke down w/Klose about 30 yards out but otherwise had lethal pace, had succeeded or at least ended in a shot on goal, the Germans mightnot have faltered so much.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago)
Alonso, as the metronomic playmaker - the ball coming to him, going to a team-mate, coming back, going to a team-mate. Just watched highlights and saw it more clearly. So glad for him to reach the final.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:13 (fourteen years ago)
If the Germans had scored early on they could have had three or four as it would have forced Spain to go for it. As things turn out Spain were able to totally control the game and Germany never really looked like winning.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:15 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, the number of gaping counter attacks spain flubbed in the second half you couldnt help thinking how big the scoreline have been if das boot were on the other foot
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:19 (fourteen years ago)
yeah alonso was really fantastic tonight..
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:21 (fourteen years ago)
Top marks to Gareth Southgate for highlighting the fact that it's the players who are to blame when goals are conceded from set pieces, and not the system employed to defend the set piece, i.e. zonal/man marking.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:23 (fourteen years ago)
I only got to watch abt half an hour of the game over my lunch break, but man, the last 20 minutes or so was v.exciting! My earlier commments of "zzz boring" can be attributed to being distracted. Very cat-mousey game, really impressed with the way Spain held "Zee Germanz" at bay.
I for one would like to welcome Paul The Octopus as our resident ilxor expert.
Man this weekend is going to be awesome.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago)
France 86
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:27 (fourteen years ago)
this is an article about how there are not enough current soccer players who are good looking
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/08/fashion/08ROW.html?_r=1&src=twr
― max, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago)
Putting soccer players in their underwear is like saying to these guys, ‘This is cool.’
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:37 (fourteen years ago)
a 25-year-old Brazilian who plays for the Milan league and therefore includes some of the world’s most prominent designers among his fan base.
― ailsa, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:44 (fourteen years ago)
Admittedly, I haven't paid any attention to the world cup this year since USA got knocked out but I am really happy to see The Netherlands make it to the final. I have been secretly rooting for them since the Denmark game when I bet the Netherlands would win 3-0.
I don't think The Netherlands are picked to win the final (I'm going to look up the betting odds)... uh can anyone explain this to me in English.
What is it, about 2:1?
― serious nonsense (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:58 (fourteen years ago)
Great video on sky sports news of the dutch squad kissing the WAGs and then cheering when they'd left the hotel.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 23:07 (fourteen years ago)
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:52 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
is this teams that "should" have won? because if maradona and ronaldo weren't such giant cocks, argentina 90 and brazil 98 should be included. Ronaldo scandal ruined a team worse than Gyan's penalty.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 23:36 (fourteen years ago)
If the Germans had scored early on they could have had three or four as it would have forced Spain to go for it. As things turn out Spain were able to totally control the game and Germany never really looked like winning.― Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:15 (1 hour ago)
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:15 (1 hour ago)
germany never won a game this wc when they had to come from behind, innit
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 23:43 (fourteen years ago)
good stat given the sample size of 6 games
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_AAW9Q5UMPkI/TDTv3DqnNOI/AAAAAAAAALw/DoGMDllbt-c/alemanhaxespanha.gif
― moullet, Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:07 (fourteen years ago)
Ah right, the human soccerpede
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:09 (fourteen years ago)
Hee hee that's awesome!
― VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:57 (fourteen years ago)
The video of that is even better as they're all singing ¡Viva Espana!
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 8 July 2010 04:57 (fourteen years ago)
You are correct: the video is glorious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0V70sVe9pY&feature=youtube_gdata
― VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 8 July 2010 05:30 (fourteen years ago)
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy)
It's 'memorable teams that didn't win'. I'd agree with you on Brazil 98, but Argentina were crap in 90, fluked their way to the final and played their part in making it one of the worst finals ever. For 1990 I'd probably say Italy.
― I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 8 July 2010 07:08 (fourteen years ago)
That's an unusually graceless display from the Spanish players.
― Tim, Thursday, 8 July 2010 07:21 (fourteen years ago)
funny tho
― Puyol Live in a Yellow Submarine (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 July 2010 07:33 (fourteen years ago)
After a hugely disappointing World Cup, England striker Wayne Rooney is unlikely to be cheered by his latest accolade: ugliest footballer on the planet.The Manchester United goal machine, who flopped after being hyped as a potential superstar in South Africa, heads the list of unattractive players on dating website BeautifulPeople.com.Most beautiful, according to online voters subscribing to the site, are Italy's Fabio Cannavaro, Fernando Torres and David Villa of Spain, US mainstay Landon Donavan and France's Thierry Henry.Rooney has the company of England team mate John Terry in the top 10 ugliest, but it's the Algerian team that comes out as collectively the least attractive on the planet, according to the poll.
The Manchester United goal machine, who flopped after being hyped as a potential superstar in South Africa, heads the list of unattractive players on dating website BeautifulPeople.com.
Most beautiful, according to online voters subscribing to the site, are Italy's Fabio Cannavaro, Fernando Torres and David Villa of Spain, US mainstay Landon Donavan and France's Thierry Henry.
Rooney has the company of England team mate John Terry in the top 10 ugliest, but it's the Algerian team that comes out as collectively the least attractive on the planet, according to the poll.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 8 July 2010 08:05 (fourteen years ago)
It's something like 'Damn this world for not letting teams like this win things'.
Brazil 98 though - there was something not quite right about them even before the final, labouring against Scotland then giving it up against Norway. I remember the complacency of whoever the pundits were on final day as the Ronaldo thing broke, with Edmundo starting then being replaced by Ronaldo before kick-off - chuckling "I'm not surprised, bit of skullduggery there" was the extent of the analysis that day, as if Brazil habitually resorted to that sort of thing, or as if ANYONE ever did something so mental at a time like that.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 July 2010 08:12 (fourteen years ago)
spain are pricks for that schweini thing, hope the dutch pwn them now
― r|t|c, Thursday, 8 July 2010 08:26 (fourteen years ago)
my prediction system says: if germany win in the third place match, spain will win the final. it's been right for the past seven times
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Thursday, 8 July 2010 08:31 (fourteen years ago)
Does the octopus get to predict the final or will he be ritually disembowelled and eaten?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 08:46 (fourteen years ago)
Watched last night's game on a big screen outside the Bernabeu in Madrid. Pretty special.
― Neil S, Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:04 (fourteen years ago)
Brazil 50, Hungary 54, Portugal 66, England 70, Holland 74, Brazil 82, France 82, Cameroon 90, Argentina 06, Germany 10
You honestly think England 70 belongs on the same planet as Brazil 50, Hungary 54, Holland 74, Brazil 82?
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:08 (fourteen years ago)
Or just that you couldn't think of a team for 1970? Why not West Germany 70?
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:09 (fourteen years ago)
England 1970 were World Cup holders, I don't think you can really include them in a list of teams with incredible unfulfilled potential.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:13 (fourteen years ago)
They also were not a better team than West Germany, who beat them after all, and then lost in probably the best World Cup semi final of all time
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:14 (fourteen years ago)
American encounters singing Spainards, marvels
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:19 (fourteen years ago)
Who'd've thought England 70 would be so unpopular? They got in cos they passed the 'blowing it/ritual suicide' test, the shoplifting thing is pretty o_O, and because they are generally reckoned to be the best side ever produced from these islands.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:25 (fourteen years ago)
busquets hasn't done a single thing for the entire half
Er, except completely nullify Oezil????
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:27 (fourteen years ago)
Crazy stat of the match - Podolski and Klose never completed a pass to each other.
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:30 (fourteen years ago)
They got in cos they passed the 'blowing it/ritual suicide' test, the shoplifting thing is pretty o_O
1974 - Jimmy Johnstone - rowing boat in Largs harbour1978 - Willie Johnston - drugs scandal AND/OR Rod Stewart's "Ole Ola"
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:30 (fourteen years ago)
Paul the Octopus RIP?
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/417032-world-cup-2010-paul-the-psychic-octopus-death-threat-from-angry-germans
― Zeno, Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:36 (fourteen years ago)
Jimmy Johnstone - rowing boat in Largs harbour
I love this from him, wrt the 1967 European Cup Final:
"There they were, Facchetti, Domenghini, Mazzola, Cappellini; all six-footers wi' Ambre Solaire suntans, Colgate smiles and sleek-backed hair. Each and every wan o' them looked like yon film star Cesar Romero. They even smelt beautiful. And there's us lot: midgets. Ah've got nae teeth, Bobby Lennox hasnae any, and old Ronnie Simpson's got the full monty, nae teeth top an' bottom. The Italians are staring doon at us an' we're grinnin' back up at 'em wi' our great gumsy grins. We must have looked like something out o' the circus."
― Michael Jones, Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:41 (fourteen years ago)
Xavi:
"Now it is a final against Holland, a great team playing great football with great players in midfield and up front."
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:43 (fourteen years ago)
Michael that's wonderful.
I love Johnstone's description of Celtic '67 as "total football - like the Dutch, but speeded up". His Wiki entry is a goldmine. RIP.
― Michael Jones, Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:45 (fourteen years ago)
I believe Rinus Michels acknowledged the influence
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:48 (fourteen years ago)
"German fans have now turned against Paul. On Berlin's "fan-mile", some sections of the crowd were singing anti-octopus songs."
In my experience, no football game is complete without the singing of at least one anti-octopus song
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 10:10 (fourteen years ago)
"You're getting fried in the morning, fried in the morning"
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 10:15 (fourteen years ago)
"Eight legs, you've only got eight legs"
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 8 July 2010 10:15 (fourteen years ago)
"Who's the mollusk in the tank? Whoooo's the mollusk in the tank?"
― Michael Jones, Thursday, 8 July 2010 10:16 (fourteen years ago)
"you're goin home in a german vetinarian ambulance"
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Thursday, 8 July 2010 10:18 (fourteen years ago)
"you're just a cephalopod of the order octopoda"
― Neil S, Thursday, 8 July 2010 10:20 (fourteen years ago)
"Calamari, Calamari, ole ole ole"
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 10:22 (fourteen years ago)
paul's on the pan
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Thursday, 8 July 2010 10:48 (fourteen years ago)
You can't squirt inkYou can't squirt ink You can't squirt ink when you're chased
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 July 2010 11:00 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/robball.jpg
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/world_cup/33956/world-cup-memes-arjen-robben-curled-into-a-ball.html
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 8 July 2010 11:27 (fourteen years ago)
Komt ie dannnnnnn...het WK topic.
― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Thursday, 8 July 2010 11:31 (fourteen years ago)
oh sorry didn't see yr link, u got em covered
― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Thursday, 8 July 2010 11:34 (fourteen years ago)
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, July 5, 2010 1:11 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^ this guy is never not OTM
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 July 2010 11:46 (fourteen years ago)
germany played pretty good tbf. had plenty of good chances themselves and lost to a set-piece in the end.
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Thursday, 8 July 2010 11:57 (fourteen years ago)
obv i'm saying it'll be either a draw or one of the two sides will win.― voodoo sailor (ken c), Sunday, 4 July 2010 23:19 (4 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Sunday, 4 July 2010 23:19 (4 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
called it, btw
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:00 (fourteen years ago)
Good call. Mine is between 'england 3-0 germany' and 'portugal will struggle against north korea'
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:01 (fourteen years ago)
Best Wenger interview ever. Starts with:
APIDI: Thank you for giving me this opportunity to have a word with you Sir.WENGER: You are welcome. I would prefer you call me Arsene, not Sir because I’m a professor, not Sir.
WENGER: You are welcome. I would prefer you call me Arsene, not Sir because I’m a professor, not Sir.
Continues to:
APIDI: Goalkeeping let you down last season, anybody going or coming?WENGER: Manuel Almunia Rivero is a talented goalkeeper. In training, he is superb, the only problem is that he gets nervous on big matches, thereby making silly mistakes. After the World Cup, we will be making an announcement on goalkeeping.
WENGER: Manuel Almunia Rivero is a talented goalkeeper. In training, he is superb, the only problem is that he gets nervous on big matches, thereby making silly mistakes. After the World Cup, we will be making an announcement on goalkeeping.
APIDI: Why do you tend to like blacks?WENGER: I look at quality, not colour.
WENGER: I look at quality, not colour.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:03 (fourteen years ago)
that schweinsteiger vid above is from after euro 2008 final, innit? footage is from year '08 certainly. still pretty classless from those involved!
― Weasel Diesel, Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:03 (fourteen years ago)
Not forgetting:
APIDI: A Kenyan Arsenal fan committed suicide when the team lost to Manchester United. What message would you have for Kenyan Arsenal fans?WENGER: What? (shocked) My condolences. To Arsenal fans, keep on supporting Arsenal, another invincible team is on the way. And please, do not commit suicide.
WENGER: What? (shocked) My condolences. To Arsenal fans, keep on supporting Arsenal, another invincible team is on the way. And please, do not commit suicide.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:04 (fourteen years ago)
'england 3-0 germany'
http://www.themeaningofdope.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/r-146264-1105598685-150x150.jpg
― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:04 (fourteen years ago)
that schweinsteiger vid above is from after euro 2008 final, innit? footage is from year '08 certainly. still pretty classless from those involved!― Weasel Diesel, Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:03 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Weasel Diesel, Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:03 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
good thing they didn't play japan tbh.
― voodoo sailor (ken c), Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:09 (fourteen years ago)
I thought it was rope-a-dope
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:09 (fourteen years ago)
Would be amusing if Spain won without playing Fabregas and Torres but I suspect Torres might start
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:17 (fourteen years ago)
lol where the fuck was the Laudrup team in 94? Bigger travesty than Arshavin not making it! (was gonna talk about Stoichkov's Bulgaria but wiki-ing that World Cup gots me angry at no Denmark)
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:32 (fourteen years ago)
Denmark 86 were another of these and then iirc got absolutely destroyed by Spain 86, who must've been pretty special but nobody ever talks about them
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:37 (fourteen years ago)
It's quite sweet of Wenger, pretending Fabregas is a key element of the Spanish midfield. Also liked this hard-hitting question:
APIDI: Have you heard of Kenya?
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:39 (fourteen years ago)
solution to all of Arsenal's goalkeeping problems - get Almunia on valium.
― stand under Eljero Elia, Elia, Elia (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:43 (fourteen years ago)
Given the Laudrup team didn't qualify for 1992 either its no surprise they somehow managed to screw World Cup qualification up two years later.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 13:33 (fourteen years ago)
Pepe Reina's a fucking legend.http://telecinco.es/
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:01 (fourteen years ago)
I was shocked at how back-on-their-heels Germany played it last night. Even missing Mueller and all, even accounting for Spain's midfield defense, this wasn't the team I expected to show up. Only Schweinsteiger seemed to think they were good enough to outplay Spain.
[gloat alert] I entered two sweepstakes for this WC. In one I picked Holland; in the other, Spain.
― collardio gelatinous, Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:14 (fourteen years ago)
just reina filmin la reina
― r|t|c, Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:18 (fourteen years ago)
romania 94
― moullet, Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:21 (fourteen years ago)
Ned called it, however there is no timestamp afaik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDHmzDR5_DM
― it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:34 (fourteen years ago)
there are a bunch of these of course
― it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago)
HOWARD WEBB WILL REFEREE THE WORLD CUP FINAL. GOD SAVE OUR GRACIOUS RULE BRITANNIA! TAKE THAT 'FABIO' 'CAPELLO'.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago)
Meantime if you want to see the big hoohah announcement about the next one:
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/brazil2014/news/newsid=1269930.html#next+brazil+2014
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago)
Supposedly they will unveil the new logo and all.
At least there's some reason to be interested in it now
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago)
I'm watching with the volume down.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago)
This is better than actually winning the thing
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago)
omg really hoping he turns back into premiership howard webb for max. wcfinal lols.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago)
Okay you really need to be watching the FIFA thing. Bizarre PR dancing.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago)
Hopefully Robben is hard at work practising his ball skills - rolling into a ball of foetal agony if anyone so much as brushes against him, that is
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:47 (fourteen years ago)
The hollow perfunctory clapping for Blatter = music to our ears.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago)
Anyway after endless speeches and things they unveiled the logo...looks nice! (It's based on the trophy.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:30 (fourteen years ago)
Two world wars, one World Cup, one Octopus and one final referee! C'mon Tim!
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 8 July 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago)
It is nice, yeah.
― ailsa, Thursday, 8 July 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
Dear All,Following reports this morning in a Kenyan newspaper, please see below a clarification note:Arsenal Football Club would like to clarify that quotes attributed to Arsène Wenger today (Thursday 8th July 2010) in a Kenyan newspaper are not correct. Arsène Wenger did not grant a one-on-one interview to the newspaper and would kindly ask all media not to attribute any quotes from this source to him.Kind regards,Communications DepartmentArsenal Football Club
Following reports this morning in a Kenyan newspaper, please see below a clarification note:
Arsenal Football Club would like to clarify that quotes attributed to Arsène Wenger today (Thursday 8th July 2010) in a Kenyan newspaper are not correct. Arsène Wenger did not grant a one-on-one interview to the newspaper and would kindly ask all media not to attribute any quotes from this source to him.
Kind regards,
Communications DepartmentArsenal Football Club
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 8 July 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
Move over octopus, there's a new predictor in town
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/soccerinsider/2010/07/oracle_octopus_has_company_in.html?wprss=soccerinsider
― it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Thursday, 8 July 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
Fuck this Johnny Come Lately, Paul the Octopus is 6 for 6 on this tournament. Dunno if he can predict matches that don't feature Germany tho.
― Puyol Live in a Yellow Submarine (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 July 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
Octopus is a common ingredient in Japanese cuisine, including sushi, takoyaki, and Akashiyaki. Some small species are sometimes eaten alive as a novelty food. Similarly, a live octopus may be sliced up and the legs eaten while still squirming, which continues for some minutes.
Way to go guys :(
― Puyol Live in a Yellow Submarine (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 July 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
An octopus has a highly complex nervous system, only part of which is localized in its brain. Two-thirds of an octopus's neurons are found in the nerve cords of its arms, which have a remarkable amount of autonomy.
:((((
― Puyol Live in a Yellow Submarine (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 July 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
Also green, copper based blood.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Thursday, 8 July 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
When the male detects a receptive female, he avoids intimacy. It's sex at a distance. His spermatophore-bearing tentacle detaches itself from the body and swims -- under its own power -- to the female, being in effect a swimming penis.
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf117/sf117p06.htm
― StanM, Thursday, 8 July 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
Once again, Barney Ronay voices how I feel: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/jul/08/spain-love-sterile-world-cup-2010
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp0oQdXCXWI&feature=player_embedded
(not for the squeamish)
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Thursday, 8 July 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
posting so my bookmark doesn't open on something so gross.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago)
went 2 sónar the other weekwe're enjoying ourselves in this, honestly --لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend)
we're enjoying ourselves in this, honestly --لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend)
/'england 3-0 germany'/ --iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster)
--iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster)
posting so my bookmark doesn't open on something so gross. --fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy)
― bielsa's heart rate (whatever), Thursday, 8 July 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
sorry for that last post. 40something birthday idiot with new ipod thing can't work zing app.
― bielsa's heart rate (whatever), Thursday, 8 July 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
xp I dunno, that Barney Ronay article is okay but I think the basic problem is that other sides aren't good enough to get at Spain. It's not down to spain's style, it's the lack of an even contest - watching Chelsea steamroller Wigan or Villa is equally dull to me, and they're plenty physical
Suffering from WC withdrawal already this morning, I reached for my Italy-Germany 2006 DVD. Amazing match, distinguished above all by the speed with which the two sides attacked each other, making for an unusually open high-level contest. There was no fannying about while players got into position. I wondered whether the same might be what could do for Spain, to get at their defence while it's as near as it gets to disarray - I don't think it's all that, despite what Ronay says. But because their midfield is so strong and composed, it'd take an unusually technically accomplished and fast side, playing directly, to do it. Holland (and Brazil) seem like the side at this wc most likely to be able to play like that. I'm looking forward to finding out.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago)
Suffering from WC withdrawal already this morning
It's been weird. I might even watch the third place match at this rate.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago)
MLS game of the week tonight on ESPN2! I'll be there in person, howevs.
― it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago)
(sound of crickets chirping)
Oh, I'll definitely watch Germany vs. Uruguay, Ned. *Stomps on crickets*
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago)
I think that is the most metal I've seen you, Mike.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago)
But still the feeling persists that this is an oddly frictionless excellence; that Spain play a kind of platinum-selling dinner party football – Coldplay Football – that is clearly and undeniably high spec, but also devoid of jarringly revelatory spikes and twists. Playing against Spain must feel a little like playing a chess computer: strangled, impotent, you gawp helplessly at its robotic grace.
SMH at the unkillable "punk's not dead" worldview that infects certain blokes of a certain age.
― Puyol Live in a Yellow Submarine (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago)
Octopi are such amazing, beautiful things - anyone who eats one is a totally repulsive savage to me :(
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago)
What was Puyol's header yesterday if not jarring?
― it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:33 (fourteen years ago)
what is puyols face and haircut if not jarring
― max, Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:33 (fourteen years ago)
The feeling persists w/him, maybe. I'll be rooting for the Dutch but this Spain is a classic cup winning side: lethal attack, disruptive mid-field with excellent attacking instincts and a solid if not the most solid defense that doesn't, as a team, make too many rash mistakes or lose its form. Their one loss was a fluke against a team that played the only option they had - an "anti-football" defensive game.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago)
xposts to gravel p
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v314/103/125/36910239/n36910239_37873647_9969.jpg
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago)
the above serves as a response to Noodle Vague as well
LJ you're dead to me :(
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago)
anyone who eats one is a totally repulsive savage to me
*Grunts while knuckle-dragging*
I've only had the little ones but they're good.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:37 (fourteen years ago)
WHEN IN LISBON DO AS THE LISBIONS DO
anyway I'm half Greek Cypriot so I been eating octopus at every big family gathering ever - hate if you like pal
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:38 (fourteen years ago)
~with pleasure~
― ten thousand goons when all you need is a trife (gbx), Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:44 (fourteen years ago)
what is lj throwing up?
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago)
Half-arsed opinions about the Spanish football team iirc
― Puyol Live in a Yellow Submarine (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago)
anyway I just had another look at that photo album and it's squid rather than octopus I'm chomping on there
but just to clarify I have eaten and enjoyed octopus
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago)
savage
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago)
(also textbook zing there NV...almost TOO textbook. too clinical. easy on the eye but stupor-inducing.)
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago)
Making it look easy is what being great is all about
― Puyol Live in a Yellow Submarine (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago)
Spain haven't made it look easy at any point of this tournament though! They've clinically retained the ball and bumbled their way past frustrated opposition with a succession of rubbish goals
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:56 (fourteen years ago)
Poor, frustrated opposition.
― Puyol Live in a Yellow Submarine (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:58 (fourteen years ago)
To the octopus eaters, from Paul the Psychic Octopus: LAUGH NOW, MURDEROUS HUMANS, WE WILL HAVE OUR REVENGE ON YOU
http://www.tvgasm.com/shows/Snakehead/mouth%20tentacles.jpg
― VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:58 (fourteen years ago)
Chuffed about the final. germany's negate&counter has been talked up a lot but spain were way too agile for germany to get on top of, the likes of lahm spent all their time coping w/ them, they were spectators&if yr going to spectate you need snacks imo. spain's aggression off the ball was excellent, &now a great, maybe nonsense final w/ the two teams who have created&squandered the most chances.
― ogmor, Thursday, 8 July 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago)
LJ, I understand the 'rubbish goals' but they've only failed to score enough against one team. However, that said, Netherlands really have scored some amazing goals. Robben's header the other day was truly great.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Thursday, 8 July 2010 22:01 (fourteen years ago)
Hardly, sonny - Villa's goal against Paraguay was stunning, and the one where he fell over (v Chile?) was a cracker too. Any lack of excitement is because they're only being tested in one half of the pitch. Against Germany, who actually might have put them to the sword, the match was far from dull.
PS I am listening to Daft Punk right now, too
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 July 2010 22:05 (fourteen years ago)
robben's header and bronk's goal were sublime
Germany put together two moves that were IMO better than anything Spain managed - the first time Ramos should have been given a straight red (n.b. this is the first time I have bitched about that here) and the second time Casillas was forced into a decent save - Spain had more possession and shots but I can only imagine what might have been if Germany had clicked more often
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago)
also I don't actually have a problem with Daft Punk at all, I was just being silly earlier
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 22:18 (fourteen years ago)
Woulda coulda shoulda...
Germany didn't get the ball enough to set up many proper attacks and their blitzkrieg counters got stifled in mid-field. They met a team that figured out how to beat their game.
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Thursday, 8 July 2010 22:19 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah I read that Guardian article. Amazing. "Dinner party football"!!!
There's so much mysticism woven into football - I think because the low scores represent such a tiny sample size of all the micro-contests that happen on the field, so that often the team who "deserves" the win doesn't get it - and why not? Fate. The gods. The refs, who are the representatives of the gods. We like chance to favor our heroes. We like the gods to smile on them. Teams like Spain appear not to trust in gods.
Isn't this the way you're supposed to play? Like a team? Like a dance? Like you know what you're doing? I mean, sure, it's thrilling to see someone catch a goal-kick on their chest, turn and volley it into the top corner but that's not a strategy.
Anyway. I think this is thrilling. It's Villa's goal against Paraguay. The buildup is just phenomenal. Iniesta sets it all up with his movement and Xavi's no-look pass pushes it into the next level. I suppose Paraguay could have done better here but man.
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=yKsbCrd2qR0
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 July 2010 22:38 (fourteen years ago)
What Spain really plays is Sade football. It's the same every time, it's smooth as silk, and there's a big hairy dude in the back.
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 July 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago)
― VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 8 July 2010 22:50 (fourteen years ago)
Paraguay could have done a LOT better there. The dude trying to track Iniesta especially. But yeah, a nice move, if an imperfect finish.
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 22:55 (fourteen years ago)
I'm convinced Spain vs Germany was really a live re-enactment of the historical Sensible Soccer vs Kick Off 2 wars.
― sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Thursday, 8 July 2010 23:03 (fourteen years ago)
tracer hand otm. spain-hating is a load of bollocks.
― Michael B, Thursday, 8 July 2010 23:12 (fourteen years ago)
I enjoy watching the clash of different footballing philosophies during a world cup. I tend to glaze over when people start talking about Spain as if what they do is somehow the only "right" way to play football though.
― ears are wounds, Thursday, 8 July 2010 23:21 (fourteen years ago)
^^^^this is fair - I have been exposed to a LOT of the latter. I guess I just want Spain's method to be beatable...not looking like it, although UNCONVINCINGLY - if they were sweeping teams aside I'd not have a problem with it
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 23:24 (fourteen years ago)
I don't really understand the 'right' vs 'wrong' kind of soccer, to be honest. Where does the notion of 'the right way' or 'wrong way' come from?
― VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 8 July 2010 23:25 (fourteen years ago)
Watching Bolton for the past decade iirc
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 23:36 (fourteen years ago)
Also some would argue the history of Italian football.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 23:37 (fourteen years ago)
"the best game of football would end 0-0" or whatever the quote is...
that quote's kinda heroic
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 23:39 (fourteen years ago)
also it's the 'perfect' game, which is not the same as 'best'
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 23:40 (fourteen years ago)
yeah as soon as i hit submit i noticed my mistake.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 23:43 (fourteen years ago)
don't get why people would knock Spainexcept they lack some penetrationthey haven't hit a hatful vs anyone in this tournament (as GER and POR did and ... did NED? maybe not but they hit 3 a couple of times)and vs GER I thought Spain would be caught out and lose 1-0I was supporting them, Spain, that is
I think NED vs ESP is a delightful final, marvellous.
I (have) like(d) this world cup a lot, what a festival, a carnival, an event - never mind the actual play, just the occasion, lovely.
― the pinefox, Friday, 9 July 2010 00:05 (fourteen years ago)
"sade football" is a classic trace!
― r|t|c, Friday, 9 July 2010 00:29 (fourteen years ago)
agree about the off-putting triumphalism about a lot of the spain crit though. come the fulltime whistle and it seemed ppl instantly rewrote that germany game as a masterpiece of spanish dominance - i still think had germany scored in the 20 minutes or so at the end of the first half where they clearly had the initiative we couldve been talking about another 2 or 3-0 german counter-attacking rout. but, fair play all the same.
― r|t|c, Friday, 9 July 2010 00:36 (fourteen years ago)
come to think of it are sade fans not also guilty of the same...?
― r|t|c, Friday, 9 July 2010 00:38 (fourteen years ago)
I think my favourite thing about Spain in the semi finals was watching Xavi pick his way through massed German defenders, getting out of seemingly impossible corners and creating chances like the ball was stuck to him.
If anything is going to do for Spain it's that they're over-reliant on David Villa for goals.
― Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 09:04 (fourteen years ago)
only because they've persisted in playing a wooden torres. there looked to be more goals in them in the last game, i thought, and that against better opposition.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 09:21 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah if Pedro had chilled the fuck out and made his pass - on two or three occasions - they could've scored more. I don't think they're over-reliant on Villa, they could do with pushing more intently into the box when Iniesta does one of those pull-backs from 3 yards wide of the goalpost.
― Puyol Live in a Yellow Submarine (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 July 2010 09:30 (fourteen years ago)
Just don't fucking play Torres basically.
I really thought Spain were done for when they subbed Villa for Torres on Wednesday. One Germany equaliser and they would have been screwed in extra time.
― Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 09:30 (fourteen years ago)
I never understand why teams do that
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 9 July 2010 09:34 (fourteen years ago)
THE OCTOPUS HAS SPOKEN. IT IS SPAIN.
― Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 10:10 (fourteen years ago)
cmon the dutch, tbh
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 10:16 (fourteen years ago)
I thought he only predicted Germany games. What a sellout!
― Jibe, Friday, 9 July 2010 10:17 (fourteen years ago)
He was up all night studying the stats.
http://imgur.com/DFwbC.jpg
― James Mitchell, Friday, 9 July 2010 10:21 (fourteen years ago)
if he picks spain and sweeps the world cup, where does his career go from here?
― the resulting pussy stubble (J0rdan S.), Friday, 9 July 2010 10:22 (fourteen years ago)
er, if spain wins and he sweeps the world cup, obv
pick lebron james destinations? ops----
― moullet, Friday, 9 July 2010 10:23 (fourteen years ago)
Doesn't it always end up sitting on the box on the right? This appears, unbelievably, to be some kind of mystic hokum.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 9 July 2010 10:23 (fourteen years ago)
If you play Torres, Villa plays better, cos he can drift out left. The onyl reason Spain haven't been beating teams by 2 or 3 goals (or more) is because Torres is clearly still getting over surgery and isn't fresh. If he was tiptop, they'd be mullering people.
Spain hating is bizarre, I don't get it. Some of the Yanks & Cannucks on the ex-Stylus writers board are Spain hating; is it just that they're not scoring more? Teams are defending against them with massive focus. No one passes the ball like them; it's glorious to watch. I found the semi-final vs Germany fascinating.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 9 July 2010 10:25 (fourteen years ago)
Spain hating is classic "none of yer fancy foreign muck, all pies and flat caps like at the Valley" nonsense. Holland and Germany get free passes because they're like England except good.
― Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 10:29 (fourteen years ago)
spain plays handball
― moullet, Friday, 9 July 2010 10:32 (fourteen years ago)
Spain have Busquets.
― Jibe, Friday, 9 July 2010 10:33 (fourteen years ago)
They also have Sergio Ramos.
See it's easy to hate Spain!
Spain hating has a lot more going on than that but considering its LJ running the show, I understands that. Also the majority of ppl love Spain from what I can tell.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Friday, 9 July 2010 10:34 (fourteen years ago)
Not quite sure why Busquets gets such hate given the extent to which everyone was jizzing over Makelele a couple of years ago.
― Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 10:34 (fourteen years ago)
and also good players to pass to the right, to the left....
― moullet, Friday, 9 July 2010 10:34 (fourteen years ago)
(btw I don't hate Spain, but I can understand ppl hating them or disliking them. ffs this is football everybody has irrational opinions!)
― Jibe, Friday, 9 July 2010 10:35 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgrVpZUGToI
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Friday, 9 July 2010 10:47 (fourteen years ago)
Also Makelele was the best anchor man of the decade. Sergio Busquets is... not (yet anyway).
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Friday, 9 July 2010 10:48 (fourteen years ago)
Bit like Arsenal and Spurs then
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2010 10:51 (fourteen years ago)
except good
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 10:55 (fourteen years ago)
But srsly there is a bit of the Arsenals about Spain and the way they're talked about. By the way, I don't actually believe Alan Hansen gushing about how Spain play football "the way it's supposed to be played". Wouldn't be surprised if Hansen et al had been leaned on to be a bit more positive about the football played at this tournament.
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2010 10:55 (fourteen years ago)
Why are the yanks & Cannucks Spain hating then? They don't have flat caps!
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 9 July 2010 10:56 (fourteen years ago)
Irrational hatreds are great, trying to squeeze them into a rational hatred is tedious. There seem to be two arguments for the latter:
* their games are boring - but that's mostly the opposition's fault, Greece 04 this is not* there's no blood & guts - I have more sympathy for this as a reason, but ultimately it's a lament for lesser sides not being able to level the playing-field by hacking
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 9 July 2010 10:57 (fourteen years ago)
Except that Spain team is like 70% Barcelona who incidentally rang rings round Arsenal not so long ago.
Also, not being Arsenal and not being managed by Wenger helps.
― Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 10:57 (fourteen years ago)
Spain = Arsenal is not rly tho, Spain = Barcelona, and Arsenal ain't no Barcelona
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 10:57 (fourteen years ago)
Yanks = Germans. Canucks = French.
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2010 10:58 (fourteen years ago)
lesser sides not being able to level the playing-field by hacking
Like Brazil for instance
Would add +1 irrational hatred to Ismael-
Their football is open to being interpreted as almost self-indulgent when it comes to looking like they're bothered about putting the ball in the net.
That's the criticism they share with Arsenal
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 10:59 (fourteen years ago)
That's what I meant
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2010 10:59 (fourteen years ago)
As Dos Santos is announced as one of the shortlisted young players of the WC< I find myself hoping against hope that he gets 1/2 of the chance Arry gave the waster Bentley.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 11:00 (fourteen years ago)
"THE OCTOPUS HAS SPOKEN. IT IS SPAIN.
― Matt DC, 10:10 יום שישי 9 יולי 2010 (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
didnt he predict only games with Germany so far?
― Zeno, Friday, 9 July 2010 11:01 (fourteen years ago)
He's branching out, got a tentacle in every pie
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2010 11:02 (fourteen years ago)
There is Arsenal DNA in the Spain squad, but it spends most of its time on the bench.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 9 July 2010 11:02 (fourteen years ago)
Certainly will if the German public gets its way.
― Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 11:02 (fourteen years ago)
Coupla Liverpool losers there to keep him company
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2010 11:04 (fourteen years ago)
Ryan Babel becomes a world champion if the Dutch win
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 9 July 2010 11:08 (fourteen years ago)
So does Dirk Kuyt.
― Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 11:09 (fourteen years ago)
Edson Braafheid...
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2010 11:11 (fourteen years ago)
... nothing to do with Liverpool, just expressing astonishment at the prospect
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2010 11:12 (fourteen years ago)
Ryan Babel isn't really anything to do with Liverpool either tbf.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 11:13 (fourteen years ago)
And Johnny Heitinga! I wonder if him & Dirk would parade their WC winners' medals before the first M'side derby of next season? A bit like Ray Wilson and Roger Hunt showing off the Jules Rimet trophy before the 1966 LFC-EFC Charity Shield.
― Michael Jones, Friday, 9 July 2010 11:14 (fourteen years ago)
Still have to do a double-check in my head to make sure that Johnny Heitinga is a footballer and not a 1960s European easy listening crooner.
― Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 11:15 (fourteen years ago)
Nah he's a drag racer from the wrong side of town imo
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 11:16 (fourteen years ago)
they should form a gang with Stephane Guivarc'h. (not Heitinga, I can just about buy him as a World Cup winner.)
― stand under Eljero Elia, Elia, Elia (Merdeyeux), Friday, 9 July 2010 11:16 (fourteen years ago)
Kuyt and Heitinga are important parts of the team tbd - the only thing keeping me from doing Babel's job is that I'm not Dutch
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 9 July 2010 11:19 (fourteen years ago)
Pfft the only thing btwn dirk kuyt - everyone is work ethic.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 11:20 (fourteen years ago)
Babel's got at least a modicum of footballing ability that he treats with no respect whatsover.
The wild shirtless wingplay of Arjen Robben... the woodwork-rattling shot of Wesley Sneijeder... the competent workrate of Dirk Kuyt
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2010 11:25 (fourteen years ago)
Works his socks off, he does. Like Emile Hesky.
Ryan Babel with a decent manager could become one of the best players in Europe, I'm convinced.
― Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 11:26 (fourteen years ago)
Are you listening Arsene?
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2010 11:28 (fourteen years ago)
he could certainly be as good as jozy altidore or similar
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 11:30 (fourteen years ago)
He could be as good as Nani when Nani is good.
― Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 11:31 (fourteen years ago)
nani was good for 3 games last year, the amount of 'turned the corner' bullshit going on around that one fake ronaldo is nonsense
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 11:33 (fourteen years ago)
Playing Babel as a striker rather than a winger might help. See also Theo Walcott.
― Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 11:34 (fourteen years ago)
Pacy strikers- right out of fashion in this brave new 4-5-1 era.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 11:37 (fourteen years ago)
spain have highest pass completion %age in WC10
they also have lowest ratio of long passes to short passes in WC10 (besides south africa)
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 July 2010 12:34 (fourteen years ago)
They are currently averaging 1.167 goals a game
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2010 12:37 (fourteen years ago)
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 11:59 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Games last 90 minutes and there is an average of what, 2 goals, scored every game? This shit isn't basketball.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Friday, 9 July 2010 12:44 (fourteen years ago)
Is Babel actually in the squad? And also- do squad players who don't get on the pitch once still get a medal?
xxp Well see they don't care about scoring goals. What matters is number of passes completed and pass completion% obv.
― Jibe, Friday, 9 July 2010 12:44 (fourteen years ago)
Babel hasn't done one thing to prove he'll ever be a good player imo and he's had as many chances as loleo lolcott
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Friday, 9 July 2010 12:45 (fourteen years ago)
This shit isn't basketball.
You don't say? Loving that "going 1-0 up and taking off your only goalscorer" thing Spain are fond of.
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2010 12:50 (fourteen years ago)
there's no blood & guts - I have more sympathy for this as a reason, but ultimately it's a lament for lesser sides not being able to level the playing-field by hacking
Chile and Paraguay (esp the former) did much of what I think approximates as 'hacking' surely and it nearly worked - Chile gave away a stupid goal and Paraguay had that opportunity to score a pen. Its more that they are 'lesser sides' rather than they haven't been playing a really physical game that knocked Spain sideways.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 9 July 2010 12:51 (fourteen years ago)
I JUST WANT SPAIN'S PONDEROUS GAME TO BE BEATABLE OK GUYS IT ISN'T SOME REDUCTIVE LOL I LIKE LOWER-LEAGUE FOOTBALL SHIT I MEAN I EVEN CAME ROUND TO BARCELONA A BIT LAST SEASON BUT SPAIN HAVE BEEN NOTHING LIKE THEM
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Friday, 9 July 2010 12:53 (fourteen years ago)
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2010 13:50 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Don't want to be capt save-a-spain but germany had no real threat and villa had played a whole season before hand, as well as playing for two in torres's place, maybe he needed to be subbed?
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Friday, 9 July 2010 12:54 (fourteen years ago)
Maybe y'all know this, but Howard Webb has got the final.
― Michael Jones, Friday, 9 July 2010 12:54 (fourteen years ago)
It is beatable you doofus - if Holland can play like Inter Milan they will win
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 9 July 2010 12:56 (fourteen years ago)
They don't have to play like Inter Milan just play better than Germany managed
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2010 12:58 (fourteen years ago)
It will help if the special cloaking device fiendish Dutch scientists have developed that prevents officials seeing van Bommel in action remains undetected
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2010 13:01 (fourteen years ago)
Attack Capdevilla. Keep Ramos pushed back and get him pissed off. Follow Xavi around with a carving knife. Hope they start Torres.
Simples.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Friday, 9 July 2010 13:02 (fourteen years ago)
^^^ Basically just start actual wingers instead of Kuyt and VDV, give van Bommel permission to be himself.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Friday, 9 July 2010 13:03 (fourteen years ago)
Spain's game is beatable Louis, unless you've forgotten the opening game.
Only diff between Barca & Spain is Messi's proclivity for dribbling.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 9 July 2010 13:16 (fourteen years ago)
... and scoring!
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2010 13:26 (fourteen years ago)
gpwm
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 9 July 2010 13:30 (fourteen years ago)
Not much evidence of that proclivity in this World Cup.
― Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 13:32 (fourteen years ago)
the lols at Kuyt are bollocks. 3 assists and a goal at a World Cup aint bad going. he also happens to hold the record for most consecutive starts for Holland.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Friday, 9 July 2010 13:40 (fourteen years ago)
lols at kuyt will forever be legit. determination should never be the #1 talent you bring to the winger game.
results/effectiveness are merely inconvenient outliers, tbph.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 13:47 (fourteen years ago)
Wingers are kind of out of fashion at the moment if this World Cup is anything to go by.
― Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 13:50 (fourteen years ago)
i'd say intelligence, off the ball movement and crossing ability are decent attributes for a winger to have.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Friday, 9 July 2010 13:51 (fourteen years ago)
the fact he's a tank and runs his socks off are a bonus.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Friday, 9 July 2010 13:52 (fourteen years ago)
Wingers are kind of out of fashion at the moment if this World Cup is anything to go by
The ability to cross a ball is definitely out of fashion
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2010 13:52 (fourteen years ago)
Also I'd say you can afford for one winger to be a bit on the workmanlike side when you've got Arjen Robben in your team.
― Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 13:53 (fourteen years ago)
Ryan Babel with a decent manager? Yeah, Rafa Benitez is so shit the European champions have just given him a job.
I hope Dirk scores the winner on Sunday. Clueless hataz step the fucking fuck off.
― Venga, Friday, 9 July 2010 13:53 (fourteen years ago)
Venga can we not have this conversation for the millionth time?
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Friday, 9 July 2010 13:54 (fourteen years ago)
Because i'm sure even Ronan will concede to Rafa being a bit shit with wingers, even in his time at Valencia iirc.
ryan babel needs to decide if he wants to be a footballer or a musician.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Friday, 9 July 2010 13:55 (fourteen years ago)
Dirk Kuyt needs to decide if he wants to be a packhorse or a winger.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 14:01 (fourteen years ago)
― Venga, 09 July 2010 13:53 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
There are more than a few Rafa doubters that I wouldn't classify under 'clueless'. Most of the current Liverpool squad, if performances from last season are anything to go by.
Inter can hire anyone they like to replace Mourinho, nothing proven by that as yet.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago)
Golden Ball (player of the tournament) nominees:
Diego Forlan (Uruguay)Architect of the team’s attack, very influential, great impact for his team, provider of quality final passes, goal scorer, set pieces/shots from long range
Asamoah Gyan (Ghana)Huge work rate, efficient, good dribbler, creates problems to each defence, good goal scorer
Andres Iniesta (Spain)Very fine ball-playing attacking midfielder, a star for the team, impressive dribbling ability
Lionel Messi (Argentina)Outstanding in his pace and creativity for his team, dribbling, shooting, passing – spectacular and efficient
Mesut Oezil (Germany)A real talent for the present and the future, quick feet and great vision, good final and decisive passes
Arjen Robben (Netherlands)Very good pace and dribbling skills, wonderful ability to cut inside from the right, effective to his team
Bastian Schweinsteiger (Germany)Impressive by his first pass (forward and accurate), very good passer, has moments of individual brilliance, ball-winner
Wesley Sneijder (Netherlands)A maestro in midfield, exceptional work rate, the engine of Netherland’s attacks, excellent passer and scorer
David Villa (Spain)Top scorer; quick, two footed, very good on one-on-one situations, provides good final passes, excellent finisher
Xavi (Spain)The metronome and the engine of the Spanish team, very influential in the passing style of the game, one of the finest midfielders in the tournament
― omggggggggggggggggggggg shut upppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp (cozen), Friday, 9 July 2010 14:12 (fourteen years ago)
No Tomas Mueller no credibility.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 9 July 2010 14:15 (fourteen years ago)
Forlan vs Oezil vs Xavi for me.
― Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 14:15 (fourteen years ago)
Honestly cannot fathom how Mueller's not in that list; 4 goals and 3 assists. He misses the semi-final and they lose. His movement, finishing, and passing has been absolutely exceptional.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 9 July 2010 14:16 (fourteen years ago)
Any manager who's won La Liga twice with a team that isn't Barca or Real and who dragged one of the worst Liverpool squads in living memory to a European Cup win has already "proven" himself.
I'm not sure that someone who seems to base their opinions entirely on the xenophobic shite printed in the English football press would get that though. You need more Dion Fanning and less Martin Samuel in your life, Darragh.
― Venga, Friday, 9 July 2010 14:16 (fourteen years ago)
Many xposts obv
No Alonso either :(
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 July 2010 14:16 (fourteen years ago)
villa or sneijder. whoever wins it, will lose the final. and 3rd will be forlan (who should be the 1st)
― moullet, Friday, 9 July 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago)
who decides this?
― mizzell, Friday, 9 July 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago)
Martin Samuel and not my own Samuel eyes the reason I don't like Rafa.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Friday, 9 July 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago)
Venga: Have you read any of Paul Tomkins pieces on LFC?
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Friday, 9 July 2010 14:20 (fourteen years ago)
You need to stop assuming that people who disagree with you get their info from the sun, as opposed to watching the same football you do and coming to a different conclusion.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 14:21 (fourteen years ago)
Muller- already shortlisted in the top 3 for the Young player of the tournament- don't know if that precludes inclusion in the senior/overall award but i guess so.
Can we have a separate thread for rehashing this same old tedious argument for the 400th time please? Rafa's got fuck all to do with this World Cup.
― Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago)
^ footy thread police
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 14:23 (fourteen years ago)
Picking Messi over Higuain or for that matter Tevez is kind of ridiculous.
― Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 14:23 (fourteen years ago)
xxxpost
Yeah. Hate Tomkins. Long-winded bumlicker. Does not alter my point.
― Venga, Friday, 9 July 2010 14:24 (fourteen years ago)
no suarez no credibilityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXA_eLMY96k&feature=player_embedded#!
― omggggggggggggggggggggg shut upppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp (cozen), Friday, 9 July 2010 14:24 (fourteen years ago)
did celtic score that penalty?
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Friday, 9 July 2010 14:25 (fourteen years ago)
Rafa Benitez, Football Manager
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 14:26 (fourteen years ago)
nope : /
― omggggggggggggggggggggg shut upppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp (cozen), Friday, 9 July 2010 14:27 (fourteen years ago)
I fell in love with so many players this year. Want to watch more Ligue 1 so I can see Asamoah Gyan square off against Gourcuff!
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 July 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
Wouldn't be surprised to see Gyan playing in England next season.
― Number None, Friday, 9 July 2010 14:56 (fourteen years ago)
Thread's gone quiet :)
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 July 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago)
Paul made his prediction, WC is over.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Friday, 9 July 2010 15:17 (fourteen years ago)
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0133f22c11ef970b-800wi
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 July 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago)
Meanwhile I love strange translations:
The one has become most important celebrity of football world cup 2010 is Paul the Psychic Octopus. Paul the Psychic Octopus got publicity in last Euro championship due to its 80 percent accuracy in prediction of Germany’s football matches. In 2010 football world cup Paul the Psychic Octopus’s prediction is 100 percent accurate. In the semifinal Paul the Psychic Octopus predicted the Spain as winner. After the semifinal prediction Paul the Psychic Octopus has life threatening issues. Now Paul the Psychic Octopus has predicted the Spain will beat Netherlands in final to claim the football world cup 2010.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 July 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago)
LOL "Has life-threatening issues"
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 9 July 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago)
I'm rooting for The Spain.
I think Uruguay/Germany will be a more entertaining match tbqh
― it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Friday, 9 July 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago)
Nah, the 2nd Biggest Loser game is always unmemorable. There might be more goals in it, I'll give you that.
― We All Live in a World of Petty Goves (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 July 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago)
And one more time for Stratfor!
SpainSpain’s win over Germany in the semi-finals of the FIFA World Cup was doubly satisfying to many. Not only did Spain reach the finals of the most prestigious sporting competition in the world, but it gave a boost of confidence to the beleaguered Mediterranean region. Spain is one of the headliners of what is known as the "Club Med," a group of Mediterranean countries facing a severe economic crisis due to high budget deficits and growing government debt. The year 2010 has been harsh for the Club, with Greece facing a severe sovereign debt crisis that has threatened the financial stability of Europe as a whole, and then with Portugal, Spain and Italy identified as the next dominoes to fall.Spain, Portugal and Italy have nowhere near the poor economic fundamentals of Greece, but their sheer proximity and association with southern European economies has made them vulnerable. The rest of the European Union, led by Germany, therefore has imposed harsh budget austerity measures on all four countries. The measures cut deep into the social fabric of each, with likely resistance by their citizens to come into sharp focus for the rest of the year in the form of strikes, protests, a high degree of political instability and potentially violence.On the football pitch the Mediterranean countries have had little success in the World Cup. Greece and Italy made ceremonial exits early on, while Portugal lost in the second round. But Spain now has not only the chance for the glory of being crowned champion, but also to do it by beating another northern European country (the Netherlands) after dismantling Germany in the semi-final. The end result may not help Spain overcome its economic crisis, but the satisfaction of knowing that Germany and the Netherlands were bested on the football pitch would allow the Spanish a rare celebration.-The NetherlandsThe Netherlands is flat - very flat. It also is in the unenviable position of being nestled between several of Europe's most powerful countries. The combination of its geography (flatness) and political geography (being in close proximity to global power centers) has meant that the Netherlands has been easily invaded and conquered many times by powerful neighbors. The Dutch have therefore learned to make their country indispensable to their neighbors as an independent nation rather than as an occupied one. To achieve this they have built a transportation and business infrastructure, which they excel at managing, that is interconnected to their neighbors and essential to wider European trade.Geopolitics presents the Netherlands with two broad and related strategies to pursue: being a proactive balancer and being a tough pragmatist. Maintaining the alliance structure that ensures Dutch independence is a delicate balancing act, but when they are confronted with outside threats, the Dutch must be pragmatic. Within alliance structures such as NATO and the European Union, the Dutch try to make sure that everyone’s interests are aligned and moving in the same direction.It’s no different when it comes to football. With a population of only 17 million people, the Dutch have had to become balancers and pragmatists in football in order to compete with competition from larger leagues next door. The Dutch play a style of football, which they have dubbed "Total Football," that emphasizes tactical precision and physical ability by forcing every player to be able to play any position on the pitch. It is a style that looks to align and move the team in the same direction as a coherent unit, often at a frantic pace that exhausts the competition. The Dutch players are therefore known for their crisp passing, physical prowess and supreme technique, attributes that have helped the Netherlands remain globally competitive despite its size and lack of top flight league.
Spain’s win over Germany in the semi-finals of the FIFA World Cup was doubly satisfying to many. Not only did Spain reach the finals of the most prestigious sporting competition in the world, but it gave a boost of confidence to the beleaguered Mediterranean region. Spain is one of the headliners of what is known as the "Club Med," a group of Mediterranean countries facing a severe economic crisis due to high budget deficits and growing government debt. The year 2010 has been harsh for the Club, with Greece facing a severe sovereign debt crisis that has threatened the financial stability of Europe as a whole, and then with Portugal, Spain and Italy identified as the next dominoes to fall.
Spain, Portugal and Italy have nowhere near the poor economic fundamentals of Greece, but their sheer proximity and association with southern European economies has made them vulnerable. The rest of the European Union, led by Germany, therefore has imposed harsh budget austerity measures on all four countries. The measures cut deep into the social fabric of each, with likely resistance by their citizens to come into sharp focus for the rest of the year in the form of strikes, protests, a high degree of political instability and potentially violence.
On the football pitch the Mediterranean countries have had little success in the World Cup. Greece and Italy made ceremonial exits early on, while Portugal lost in the second round. But Spain now has not only the chance for the glory of being crowned champion, but also to do it by beating another northern European country (the Netherlands) after dismantling Germany in the semi-final. The end result may not help Spain overcome its economic crisis, but the satisfaction of knowing that Germany and the Netherlands were bested on the football pitch would allow the Spanish a rare celebration.
-The Netherlands
The Netherlands is flat - very flat. It also is in the unenviable position of being nestled between several of Europe's most powerful countries. The combination of its geography (flatness) and political geography (being in close proximity to global power centers) has meant that the Netherlands has been easily invaded and conquered many times by powerful neighbors. The Dutch have therefore learned to make their country indispensable to their neighbors as an independent nation rather than as an occupied one. To achieve this they have built a transportation and business infrastructure, which they excel at managing, that is interconnected to their neighbors and essential to wider European trade.
Geopolitics presents the Netherlands with two broad and related strategies to pursue: being a proactive balancer and being a tough pragmatist. Maintaining the alliance structure that ensures Dutch independence is a delicate balancing act, but when they are confronted with outside threats, the Dutch must be pragmatic. Within alliance structures such as NATO and the European Union, the Dutch try to make sure that everyone’s interests are aligned and moving in the same direction.
It’s no different when it comes to football. With a population of only 17 million people, the Dutch have had to become balancers and pragmatists in football in order to compete with competition from larger leagues next door. The Dutch play a style of football, which they have dubbed "Total Football," that emphasizes tactical precision and physical ability by forcing every player to be able to play any position on the pitch. It is a style that looks to align and move the team in the same direction as a coherent unit, often at a frantic pace that exhausts the competition. The Dutch players are therefore known for their crisp passing, physical prowess and supreme technique, attributes that have helped the Netherlands remain globally competitive despite its size and lack of top flight league.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 July 2010 17:45 (fourteen years ago)
get much more insight from the octopus tbh
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 9 July 2010 17:47 (fourteen years ago)
I love that stuff Ned but to be honest it's the sort of self-confirming circular solipsism that made me stop really paying attention to Stratfor.
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 July 2010 17:49 (fourteen years ago)
Lack of tentacles definitely works against Stratfor
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 9 July 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago)
xpost -- Not disagreeing with you at all there!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 July 2010 18:11 (fourteen years ago)
Platini's had a heart attack in a restaurant in SA, according to Twitter.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 9 July 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago)
― it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Friday, 9 July 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago)
"According to Twitter"
link plz
― StanM, Friday, 9 July 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/UEFA-chief-Michel-Platini-suffers-suspected-heart-attack-article521713.html
― James Mitchell, Friday, 9 July 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
thx!
― StanM, Friday, 9 July 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
too much steaks?
― Zeno, Friday, 9 July 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
"HOW much do teams pay you to get a favourable ref?"
― StanM, Friday, 9 July 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago)
Andy Roxburgh bored him?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 9 July 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
UEFA says it's not a heart attack. Should get a yellow for simulation, then.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 9 July 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
"And you said he ordered the octopus?"
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 July 2010 20:16 (fourteen years ago)
french cant even get a heart attack right this year
― max, Friday, 9 July 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
Jonathan Wilson article on the tactical lessons of this World Cup
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 9 July 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago)
interesting, thanks. Who was the first team to use the 4-2-3-1 / 4-2-1-3 to notable effect? (Besides my Football Manager 2006 Burnley side - basically what I'm asking is if I can take credit for this whole phenomenon.)
― Merdeyeux, Friday, 9 July 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago)
I think you can. Much as I love formation chat, I must confess that I don't really understand it except on a very basic level. Inverting The Pyramid was great (and I've just bought his new one) but what it usually seems to boil down to is: once a decade a couple of talented players will emerge who stand in a slightly different position to what you'd expect, and then everyone else shuffles around to catch up.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 9 July 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago)
man i am STILL slogging through Inverting The Pyramid. it's almost TOO detailed/researched. kinda more interested in the functional differences between formations and not which hungarian invented them or w/e
― gbx, Friday, 9 July 2010 21:50 (fourteen years ago)
Seriously, though, 60s Ajax is like the only innovation which I can see actually changed the game fundamentally, with pressing and possession, and how they used offside and all that. Everyone since is still in their shadow, except possibly the British game basking in ignorance.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 9 July 2010 21:58 (fourteen years ago)
The official Platini line is that he fainted and fell off his chair during dinner at a restaurant. I wonder if this is the euphemistic way of telling us he was blind drunk or something.
― StanM, Friday, 9 July 2010 22:58 (fourteen years ago)
I hope so!
― the pinefox, Friday, 9 July 2010 23:05 (fourteen years ago)
I mean,
je l'espere!
Next worldcup logo = Picard facepalm
http://i.imgur.com/xRcOj.gif
― StanM, Friday, 9 July 2010 23:44 (fourteen years ago)
Piss off. I liked it, and now, like when someone said "Lisa blowing Bart" about London 2012, it's ruined forever.
― ailsa, Friday, 9 July 2010 23:45 (fourteen years ago)
didn't some people get pissed off cos Brazil/Brasil was spelt with an S or a Z or something, or the other way round, so they removed Brasil/Brazil from the logo?
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Saturday, 10 July 2010 00:04 (fourteen years ago)
― Merdeyeux, Friday, 9 July 2010 22:06 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
4-2-1-3 is arguably the '66 England side, non?
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 10 July 2010 06:25 (fourteen years ago)
Woke up with the awful feeling of 'this is gonna be all over by tomorrow' :-(
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 July 2010 09:04 (fourteen years ago)
On June 13, 12:04 pm, two days before the 2010 South Africa World Cup, a Baidu user named “X from the future” (X来自未来) posted this post titled “From the near future, come in if you want to know” on the Baidu Post Bar under the category of “2012 Bar.He wrote: I came from the near future, I know many people will think this is a joke, I am willing to first show everyone a little proof. My proof is very simple, in the currently popular World Cup, the final will be played between the Netherlands and Spain, the Netherlands beat Spain 2:1, Sneijder and another bench player you would not guess the name scored. Hope my words will not travel to South Africa before the final, or else I worry about this affecting players’ mentality, and changes the history. I will come back one month later, at that time you will believe everything I say about the future.
He wrote:
I came from the near future, I know many people will think this is a joke, I am willing to first show everyone a little proof.
My proof is very simple, in the currently popular World Cup, the final will be played between the Netherlands and Spain, the Netherlands beat Spain 2:1, Sneijder and another bench player you would not guess the name scored. Hope my words will not travel to South Africa before the final, or else I worry about this affecting players’ mentality, and changes the history.
I will come back one month later, at that time you will believe everything I say about the future.
― James Mitchell, Saturday, 10 July 2010 10:58 (fourteen years ago)
Predict the lottery result and you've got my vote, future dude.
― StanM, Saturday, 10 July 2010 11:09 (fourteen years ago)
still not enough to make me put money on babel
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 July 2010 11:23 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KHFA6ZuFTE
― StanM, Saturday, 10 July 2010 13:52 (fourteen years ago)
so, how many goals do you think we'll see today?
― Zeno, Saturday, 10 July 2010 14:35 (fourteen years ago)
There are four players who stand a chance of winning the golden boot and they'll really be going for it. The others will be pretty apathetic but they'll play without fear. So possibly quite a few.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 10 July 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
exactly - and so i think it will be a fun game to watch
― Zeno, Saturday, 10 July 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago)
0-0
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 July 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago)
The top 5 WC 3rd Place Play Off Matches, suggests it could be worth watching but meh.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 10 July 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago)
I didn't know that Platini would've been suspended for the 82 final, had France got there as they should.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 July 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
Meanwhile, relive the past:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7kTcLWn_1I
(And Gary Lineker, member of Go West)
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 July 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago)
Okay, ten minutes to go here, Univision fired up and ready to go...
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago)
ITV1 fired up and ready for the only time (except for tomorrow) that I'll watch it for the rest of the year.
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago)
I love that we get the operetta one more time.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
"coughs and sneezes spread diseases..."
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:27 (fourteen years ago)
no klose, no podolsky...
― Zeno, Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago)
Aw yeah, of course I was gonna end up watching this. Can't actually recall ever having seen a 3rd/4th playoff before.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:33 (fourteen years ago)
Big crowd of schoolkids in tonight, going by the pitch of that cheer.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
Happy Soccer Saturday!!
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago)
<3 u, Forlan
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago)
Germany, fouls, handballs, and diving. How woulda thought it?
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago)
Saving them up for the last dance
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago)
goal
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago)
Mueller needs one more to get the Golden Boot
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago)
Kind of love Ozil
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago)
so, if so many are sick in Germany - they would probably lost the final anyway if winning spain..
― Zeno, Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
THEY'RE VERY EFFICIENT
― RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago)
"Military precision"
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago)
the unstoppable machine
― Zeno, Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago)
ohhh game on
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
xp ...has been stopped - Urugary score
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
Nice goal, that.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
I kinda hope Suarez scores just to piss off the crowd who keep booing him every touch.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
thats what happens when no one gives a fuck
― Zeno, Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
I like how this game is showing that yes they really DID miss Suarez and Mueller.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
"SO MUCH FOR GERMAN EFFICIENCY"
― RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
histort tells us that every military precision ends some day..
― Zeno, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
BUTT
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
that's the third goal I've missed this week on account of going to make a cup of tea. If I drink enough tea I could make this end about 30-30.
would like to see Germany w/ Mueller interrupt Spain's celebrations tomorrow (just assuming that Paul is right) and challenge them for the title.
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago)
mueller effortlessly becoming discovery of the tournament
― futile fucile (whatever), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago)
O JANSENO JUDGEO MOM AND DAD
― RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah i have to give the ball away nowah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah
― futile fucile (whatever), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
HERE COME THE HANDSTHEY'RE URUGUAYAN HANDSMADE IN URUGUAY
― RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
butt spread himself well there
― i can't turn my cavs into a heat (zvookster), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
dear Diego, that is not how you chase a Golden Boot, luv moi
― RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
the rain the rain
― Zeno, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
bahahahahahaha @ friedrich
aww man, halftime already
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago)
the weather also made butt wet
― futile fucile (whatever), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago)
lol at Adrian Chiles "the rain makes it look like a 4th round FA Cup tie..."
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, July 10, 2010 7:17 PM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah, only three halves of footie left. gonna miss it.
― futile fucile (whatever), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
I don't know how I'm supposed to be up for the premiership season after this
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago)
You're already dreaming of a mid-table match in January going nil-nil as buckets of rain come down on players rejected from their national reserve squads...
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:32 (fourteen years ago)
last season was when i extricated myself from match of the day. now i just need to limit the number of live games.
― futile fucile (whatever), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago)
― gbx, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago)
Uruguay are defensively a lot better so far this half.
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago)
XDDDDD
― RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago)
beauty
― Zeno, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago)
If Suarez is really affected by the booing, he's a giant pussy.
― brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago)
Sweet
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago)
well that was kinda brilliant.
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago)
<3 u Diego
that fucking guy
― gbx, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
think it hit him on the knee tbh
― i can't turn my cavs into a heat (zvookster), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
It would be hilarious if Forlan scores again and wins the Golden Boot.
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
Magic headband of goals
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
even if he won't - he scored the most beautiful goals in this wc
― Zeno, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
paul the octopus dignity is at risk
― Zeno, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago)
not yet..
― Zeno, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago)
what a cross!!
― RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago)
k that goal I missed by going to pee. I can pop out again if you'd all like.
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
Ian Darke losing his shit over Suarez booing
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
Cups of tea + peeing = goalpocalypse
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
Xpost
It's a good thing Drake wasn't in the booth when A Rod returned to Seattle the first time.
― brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
Well something just happened, but ITV1 were too busy showing replays
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
I read this initially like you meant Drake the rapper, and so now all I can think of is like "Haters give me a hand cause I ball...SUAREZ"
― C-L, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
this co-commentator is a fucking idiot
― RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
is it craig burley again
just ducking in from cruising my 1970's fancy dress options to say that forlan rools ok
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago)
in your what now.
(it is indeed Craig Burley.)
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
no klose this sucks
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
How fancy is your dress, darragh
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago)
gf has decided on annie hall waistcoat/tie flares w/e
i'm btwn houndstooth jacket/poloneck & pipe ron burgundy and full-on elvis jumpsuit. favouring burgundy tbh, depends on availability of material tbh
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
Burgundy ftw
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
no no no Elvis jumpsuit ftw
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
Burgundy with jazz flute for all time-
Goooooooooooooal!!!
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
h8 Burley. Hope I never have the need/opportunity to say that again.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
Germany score
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
Sweet header
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
German goalie suxors
Wait I mean Uruguay
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago)
Butt sucks?
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago)
Heeeeee
Butt blows
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
i wondered what happened to the coach's reaction shots
― Zeno, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago)
Loved Abreyu in Neverending Story
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago)
Forlan's last chance
― Zeno, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
Aw Diego, what a man
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
Live by the crossbar, die by it.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
What
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
forlan u beautiful bitch
― gbx, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
Rad game guys...
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
Heart u for all time Forlan
i want the octopus to help me fill the lottery
― Zeno, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
That was pretty fun. It was like the world's most interesting friendly.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
2011 summer movie: Paul The Psychic Octopus: Mall Cop
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
One game left, guys.
Gulp
Ned otm---that was the most wide open game I've seen played all tourney
― gbx, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago)
what a cool game that was, with almost a wow finish but it was still quite wowish anyway. really felt for forlan.
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago)
and just thought, the final will be no where near as entertaining will it.
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
Arshavin! He lives!
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
xp the better the 3rd place game, the worse the final usually
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago)
canonical example: Italia '90
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
Arshavin + James Corden, why would you do this to me, ITV.
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
I have not seen any of Corden's World Cup show. Why did I start now? Owly clearly has no clue what's happening.
― James Mitchell, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
James Corden is not rocking Edgar Davids' world
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:50 (fourteen years ago)
Arshavin or no Arshavin, I had to stop watching because it was making me feel bad about the world.
suspect that Edgar will be having a few words with his agent after this.
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 10 July 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago)
Good call. Shakira was on a couple of weeks back - never seen a blockbuster guest put to such poor use. Until tonight.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 July 2010 21:09 (fourteen years ago)
I don't care if he's knocked up a time machine and got James Joyce, Spinoza and Joan of Arc in the house, I'm not having that smug twat on my telly.
― ain't too proud to blog (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 July 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago)
Sue Barker just said shart. That'd generate some joyful affects in Spinoza, I'm sure.
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 10 July 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago)
Nobody ever got poor in this country underestimating the lowest common denominator.
― ain't too proud to blog (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 July 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago)
btw if you fancy a laugh ILXsearch "howard webb" by posts, oldest first
― RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Saturday, 10 July 2010 21:33 (fourteen years ago)
Can we have a round of applause for Diego Forlan please? Used to play for Utd dontcha' know?
― Number None, Sunday, 11 July 2010 03:46 (fourteen years ago)
Clapclapclapclapclap (me applauding)
― VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 11 July 2010 03:50 (fourteen years ago)
I guess this will be the last time we get to see him on the world stage. I'm sure the twice European Golden Boot winner is glad he just got some recognition from some pundits who have a vague memory of him playing in England a few years ago. Seriously though, hats off to Uruguay. A realtively teeny country with a fanstastic World Cup history, which i was glad to see them add to this year.
― Number None, Sunday, 11 July 2010 03:59 (fourteen years ago)
uruguay's awesome, hope they're a force at brazil 2014
― 156, Sunday, 11 July 2010 04:23 (fourteen years ago)
2014: we should all wear elastic headbands in his honor
― VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 11 July 2010 04:36 (fourteen years ago)
Got love for both teams after today's game
― future American striker hero (lukas), Sunday, 11 July 2010 04:43 (fourteen years ago)
^^ this
― VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 11 July 2010 05:19 (fourteen years ago)
Forlan is not only incredibly efficient but... he does everything with supreme power, precision and style. I mean, he just looks so fucking COOL and RAD out there. The twelve-year old me sitting bored at the back of the class couldn't draw the superhero-like action poses that this guy routinely pulls off.
― collardio gelatinous, Sunday, 11 July 2010 05:53 (fourteen years ago)
Also handsome
― VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 11 July 2010 06:09 (fourteen years ago)
Holy crap in under twelve hours from now it all begins.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 July 2010 07:03 (fourteen years ago)
I dunno, the final will be more entertaining because, y'know, it's the final, and there's actually something at stake beyond the Golden Boot, yesterday's was a lot of fun but had the air of exhibition match about it, and there's a reason why no one gets that bothered about exhibition matches. It was an open game because no one cared much if they lost, but take the tension out of football and you take away most of the fun.
Really felt for Klose - the opportunity to become the all-time top World Cup goalscorer just snatched away from you.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 11 July 2010 10:51 (fourteen years ago)
Number None: Forlan regularly plays in Europe and the Copa America is next season.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 11 July 2010 11:28 (fourteen years ago)
Plus Matt, someone could get headbutted.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 11 July 2010 11:29 (fourteen years ago)
Was Klose injured for yesterday's game?
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Sunday, 11 July 2010 12:03 (fourteen years ago)
Flu, apparently.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 11 July 2010 12:07 (fourteen years ago)
shame. he'll be 36 for the next world cup, could still get the record?
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Sunday, 11 July 2010 12:15 (fourteen years ago)
A hoy hoy: I realise that. Always forget to watch the Copa America though
― Number None, Sunday, 11 July 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago)
From The Guardian re Wesley Sneijder
The only problem was his personality. Even at Ajax, nobody could quite recall anyone so small and so young with such a big mouth since the waif-like "Jopie" Cruyff had made his debut in 1964. Amsterdammers call the style Amsterdamse bluf. Elsewhere it is called something else. When Ajax's then coach Ronald Koeman dared start the 20-year-old Sneijder on the bench, the kid came on as a sub, scored, and then swivelled to the bench and raised his middle finger at Koeman. Jaap Stam, who ended his playing days with Ajax, phrased it in the cliches mastered over a successful international career: "Wesley is a bit of a controversial person and he really knows what he wants. He's not afraid to voice his opinion. He's a great guy and I kind of like players like him."
This is equal parts reprehensible and AWESOME!
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Sunday, 11 July 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago)
I'm still getting over Cruyff once being called Jopie.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 July 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago)
still haven't sorted who I'll be cheerin for today.
but I think I loathe most of the Dutch players, so
― gbx, Sunday, 11 July 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago)
someone start a world cup final thread please
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 11 July 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago)
xp haha me too. plus i'll probably watch the game at a pro-spain party so don't wanna be a drag
― sonderangerbot, Sunday, 11 July 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago)
RIP WORLD CUP 2010
― gbx, Sunday, 11 July 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago)
World Cup Final 2010 : Netherlands vs Spain
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 11 July 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago)
http://c✧✧✧.com/video/?id=66✧✧✧@k✧✧✧.dayp✧✧✧.c✧✧
Spouting temulent inanities after USA V Ghana
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Monday, 12 July 2010 22:52 (fourteen years ago)
http://cbs5.com/video/
?id=66✧✧✧@k✧✧✧.dayp✧✧✧.c✧✧
wtf?
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Monday, 12 July 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago)
Whatever...
It's that @ symbol throwing it off.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 July 2010 22:56 (fourteen years ago)
?id=66793 - at - kpix.dayport.com
― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Monday, 12 July 2010 22:57 (fourteen years ago)
tinyurl it
― caek, Monday, 12 July 2010 23:20 (fourteen years ago)
http://tinyurl.com/2g6aa4z
― it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 01:12 (fourteen years ago)
i'm btwn houndstooth jacket/poloneck & pipe ron burgundy and full-on elvis jumpsuit.
got an elvis jumpsuit without much trouble, so that btw
― Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 July 2010 03:06 (fourteen years ago)
forlan/klose lasted til the next one :)
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Friday, 20 March 2015 02:02 (ten years ago)
wouldn't be totally flabbergasted if Klose came out of retirement for 2018.
― A MOOC, what's a MOOC? (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 20 March 2015 09:17 (ten years ago)