HAMM AFFLECK RENNER THE TOWN

yessssssssssssssssssssssss

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=nHh3lE8fuys&vq=medium

whoops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eECq3J7L4gw

psyched

str8 up jizzing

looks pretty good!

Gone Baby Gone is v. good

rebecca hall is all-time

kinda wish they didn't give away what looks like an (easily guessable but still) major plot point

par for the course with previews these days

it was kinda obvious from frame one there but yeah it's still stupid. anyway, just saw gone baby gone and am now officially interested in this

this looks doope - gone baby gone wouldve been utterly ridic if itd just stuck to ganster shit and left the crying abt feelings part on the final cut floor - was pretty great anyway tbh

I find myself rooting for Affleck these days, somewhat strangely.

yea this looks fukkin phenomenal

GBG was better than any film Scorsese or T*r*ntino has made since '97.

Is the book this film is based on good?

How does this not look like a billion other movies? Also I HATE films that are all BOSTON

it is gonna make ppl from charlestown think they'er badazzes

<3 that INTENSE chinup

Affleck's Boston accent always makes me lol, so the trailer was amusing.

this looks great, albeit that you wouldn't swap pacino, deniro and kilmer for the three leads in this.

i agree the casting is prob important that it seems good

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I'm so excited! There are so many this I love about this movie. I used to live in Charlestown and am sort of obsessed with its history and people. Also, at my last job I worked with a dude from Charlestown who spent 15 years in prison for bank robberies. Man, I would love to see this with him or know what he thinks of it.

Also, Also I HATELOVE films that are all BOSTON.

ben affleck is whatever whatever but it's cool to be given a reason to like him

hamm & renner are straight bad asses and those two casting choices alone put this over the top imo

Gone Baby Gone had such an incredibly stupid second half.

hello, Dennis Lehane

Gone Baby Gone had such an incredibly stupid second half.

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, July 17, 2010 12:22 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

^^this -- pretty unforgivable second half. but the first half was so good that i'm willing to let it slide. also the final scene is great

cool trailer (too spoilery though), great cast. GBG was real good.

I like that it shows you Ben Affleck, and says "from the award winning director of Gone Baby Gone," but never mentions that it's him. clever!

Reminds me of Friends of Eddie Coyle for some reason.

I HATE films that are all BOSTON

― is breads of india still tite (admrl), Friday, July 16, 2010 10:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

most that try get it so wrong, but when its right its sweet, so frickin sweet

I love Hamm, but slightly worried that I'll be unable to ever think of him as anyone other than Draper.

I like that it shows you Ben Affleck, and says "from the award winning director of Gone Baby Gone," but never mentions that it's him. clever!

This also made me laugh.

I didn't even know about this Gone Baby Gone film before reading the thread so I guess the trailer accomplished its mission!

enjoyed Gone Baby Gone. trailer was pretty awesome for The Town but I've been burned several timse this year, so I'll mute my excitedness.

I accidentally had 3 versions of the trailer playing and it sounded like the craziest fucking trailer i've ever watched and made me way more pumped for this film than just the normal trailer would have. Also I love Hamm and Hall and want to have her babies.

"I love Hamm, but slightly worried that I'll be unable to ever think of him as anyone other than Draper."

I had this problem just hearing his voice in A Single Man. I was like wow Don Draper was his boyfriend's cousin!

haha same

im sure people were all lol er when clooney started blowing up too

kinda wish this was a hamm affleck renner remake of "on the town"

Or "Our Town"

which is actually how I read the thread title initially

or copland

anyway shame on j0rdan for not putting HALL up there too

still excited for this, despite that trailer

How does this not look like a billion other movies? Also I HATE films that are all BOSTON

― is breads of india still tite (admrl), Friday, July 16, 2010 10:31 PM (Yesterday)

<333333

affleck is a bank robber from a family of bank robbers, but he falls for one of his hostages who doesn't recognize him cuz he robbed her while the mask from scream, and somehow john hamm works for the FBI and cottons on to affleck through something the girl said and affleck has to choose LIFE OF CRIME AND NO GIRL or LIFE OF NO CRIME AND GIRL and he chooses LIFE OF CRIME AND GIRL and everything goes haywire because somehow she figures everything out and rejects him -- is that it?

this film looks dope. those bank robber masks are pretty excellent imo. and gone baby gone was really pretty great.

so much teal and orange

this will be sooooooooooooo fucking awesome i will watch it 37 times

this is up, like, all of my alleys

When is this coming out? I should go watch in in Charlestown but I don't think there are actually any movie theaters there. I am so excited for this.

there used to be one but it got stolen iirc

Wouldn't be surprised tbh.

so much teal and orange

― diurnal eternal falafel (get bent), Monday, August 16, 2010 8:08 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

not many films these days you can't say that about tbh

i like to have a good cry at the nail salon, why dont u let me buy you a drink

she brings u teal and oranges that come all the way from china

lively v hall - my god

i like to have a good cry at the nail salon, why dont u let me buy you a drink

weird PUA method but hey

psyched for this

HAMM
AFFLECK
RENNER
NUNS WITH GUNS

so much teal and orange

― diurnal eternal falafel (get bent), Monday, August 16, 2010 3:08 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark

i see this everywhere now that i've been clued in, totally insane

it makes the colours POP.

caught a bit of transformers 2 on tv yesterday and the extent of the teal and orange is insane. like, sickening in an avant-garde kind of way.

anyone read the NYT profile yesterday?

of teal and orange? wow it's really getting bad then

lively v hall - my god

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, August 18, 2010 1:37 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark

yes

she brings u teal and oranges that come all the way from china

― the disappearance of apollo creed (s1ocki), Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:44 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark

nicely played.

early reviews are mosty positive.

not gonna lie really excited for this.

is there a teal and orange ilx stylesheet yet? if not why not

don't think I knew Peter Hall is Rebecca's father. I've only seen her in two atrocious films (Vicki CB, FrostNixon)

i am going to see this for jon hamm. love that MF. but am i supposed to watch this and root for affleck? that may be a problem.

That is my dilemma as well.

she kills it in 'please give' imo

can't remember her in 'the illusionist'

'starter for 10' is basically rubbish but i'd watch her in anything, really

xpost

I had to sit through Armageddon 3 times because of my roommate's crush on Affleck. smh

She's fine in Starter for 10, though yes, it is basically rubbish.

She was pretty good in Red Riding.

she's in the prestige not the illusionist (she's ok i guess, it's not a great part)

im hearing so-so things about this tbh

'starter for 10' is basically rubbish but i'd watch her in anything, really

no memory of her in that either (saw for McAvoy)

she plays the jewish (iirc) girl he hooks up with

So I guess it's premiering tonight at Fenway Park:

http://a.yfrog.com/img192/732/hd7o.jpghttp://a.yfrog.com/img806/8869/ok0.jpg

are they projecting it onto the green monster?

and yeah i'm getting a bit tired of OMG BOSTON

film should be set in rochester IMO

or white plains

any movie not set in ny or la is a win

any movie set at your moms house is a win

a winning pornographic film starring me and your mom that is

are they projecting it onto the green monster?

― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:30 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I believe there is a huge screen set up inside the Monster.

and yeah i'm getting a bit tired of OMG BOSTON

― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:35 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

>:[

climax takes place @Fenway apparently

number of explosions in TV ad plus Ben's onscreen presence gives me pause (seeing tom'w)

any movie set at your moms house is a win

― max, Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:39 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

a winning pornographic film starring me and your mom that is

― max, Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:40 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark

that's so horrible max. just so horrible

lol

more Massachusetts via Hollywood accents next month! Hillary Swank, Sam Rockwell, Melissa Leo, Minnie Driver and Juliette Lewis!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrPtr0aQx3s

^^this is playing at the Hawaii Film Fest. I love sam rockwell-- think i'm gonna go

weird he's the only one in the listed cast without an oscar nom.

ppl have been rollin their damn eyes at that movie in to

I like where Renner and Lively were going with this. But it's pretty over-clean imo. Chase scene among teeny upscale neighborhood streets is the highlight for both Elswit and the sound designer.

movie bank robbers always have the coolests masks. heat = popularized the hockey masks, point break = president's masks. my anticipation level is huge for when plastic bags become the latest "it" thing in the bank robber fashion world.

I am not writing abt any more movies where the screening is 36 hrs before the opening

doesn't make you feel elite enough

oh snap

srsly though it's a pain in the arse

yeah, one roots for it to be shit so you can dismiss it in 250 words

(since this happens w/ big-studio stuff exclusively, usu works out)

you could probably squeeze a couple of hundred words out of talking about Gone Baby Gone and Boston and Affleck up-until-now.

then dismiss it in a short paragraph.

no.

also, simply having better taste than you is elite enough for me.

I liked GBG two (3?) years ago, but I can't even remember things I saw 6 months ago.

The last half is total crap, although i admit it's something of a novelty to watch Morgan Freeman give a genuinely awful performance.

In Gone Baby Gone, Ben Affleck's familiarity with the hardscrabble terrain of Boston's working class neighborhoods and his empathy for those who reside in them grounded the occasionally outlandish story he adapted from Dennis Lehane's novel. In The Town, Affleck has returned to the literary well and found another crime saga to translate to the big screen, this time Chuck Hogan's Prince of Thieves. A pulpy cross between Heat and The Departed, with very little of Gone Baby Gone's mostly successful attempt at depicting a broken system in a possibly broken city, The Town is primarily concerned with violent setpieces, the spooky masks worn by a crew of bank robbers, and the juicy performances of the actors behind the masks and of those facing off with them. Excellent supporting turns by Jeremy Renner as a hair-trigger criminal and Jon Hamm as a persistent FBI agent can't really disguise the nagging idea that Affleck's sophomore directorial effort find him out of his depth in front of the camera and taking the easy way out behind it. etc etc etc i should send that to some crappy smalltown paper

i'm still pretty psyched to see this one btw

I liked GBG two (3?) years ago, but I can't even remember things I saw 6 months ago.

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:44 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

self parody much?

reading some reviews, they all say it's a good movie that could've been so much better. one of the denver papers scolded it for ending with a "sentimental ben affleck beard scene" which gave me a major lol.

This is not dreadful, but man it feels about 6 hours long.

Morbs should I see this or "The Easy A" tomorrow?

rent Fantastic Mr Fox

or Gone Baby Gone

"sentimental ben affleck beard scene"

lol

SPOILER: "sentimental ben affleck beard scene"

That's almost the last shot of the film

Ms. Hall, a subtle actress with an intriguing face

might start a blog documenting this sort of thing

Mr. Scott, a moronic critic with a beard scene

ehh i think he's good, just it always makes me lol to see straight-dude critics try to describe actresses

In Ms Hall's case here, there's not much else to dwell on when a Shakespearean actress is cast as The Girl with nothing much to do.

btw end credits have '32 Scarface-style disclaimer about the many good & decent people of Charlestown who we didn't get to romanticize in our film

Dr. Morbs rates movies on a scale of 1 to 10, with 5 being the highest score.

might start a blog documenting this sort of thing

― sexy mfa (history mayne), Friday, September 17, 2010 8:46 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

do this, please!

so is this any good?????

meh. action scenes are pretty good (sub-Heat is still better than 90% of what's being down out there), but Bennie and Ms. Hall characters are a pretty bland. Renner and Lively are excellent though.

I grew up in Charlestown, so I'm curious about this film, but I won't be at all surprised when it turns out to be terrible.

Yes, but not very, and I certainly wished for a different lead actor and less formula boom-boom.

xxp

Yeah it's funny that the primary complaints seem to be that Aflac is horribly miscast (although it sounds like the central plot point is lame regardless of who was playing the two leads.)

formula boom-boom was welcome after 'my ma walked out' gettin-to-know-ya shit. xpost

Yeah, better lead only really means somebody being able to make something out of a pretty bland character. Affleck is fine.

The bank robber-hostage romance is only a few steps beyond On the Waterfront (yes, I helped them push your brother off the roof; you love me!), but, you know.

Voice critic made an excellent point about trendy Boston-lowlife movies: The Last White Enclave (ie, no Roxbury films)

it's not the idea of the bank robber-hostage romance (which i think has a lot of potential), but rather the execution or, more specifically, the clunky writing and the dead direction.

so this is basically good will hunting but with bank robbers instead of geniuses.

nah, Renner as a rodentish Cagney is a big improvement over Matt Damon, and Hamm has the best line in the picture after he's left holding his nuts.

How was Hamm actually? It will be weird seeing him as something other than Don Draper.

Hamm has the best line in the picture after he's left holding his nuts.

^^^^ would watch in close-up

Voice critic made an excellent point about trendy Boston-lowlife movies: The Last White Enclave (ie, no Roxbury films)

Very true. This tends to make me feel very ambivalent toward these films. On the one hand, I relate to them because they depict people and places that are extremely familiar to me. On the other, they almost invariably stink.

This is slightly better than The Departed.

Pretty sure Hamm has more screentime than in the 2 MM episodes I've seen.

'better' than the Departed, though probably not as enjoyable.

also, big props for casting Titus Welliver. just because.

he was in GBG too

yeah. it's always great to see him.

fuckin adams

I have no idea who he is otherwise

xp

Silas Adams in Deadwood, with his monkey mother.

ooooooooh, I saw that show

*tries to remember the character*

Morbs thoroughly OTM - mediocre script, great cast.

ok I got it, the bagman. Never woulda recognized him.

Voice critic made an excellent point about trendy Boston-lowlife movies: The Last White Enclave (ie, no Roxbury films)

Would totally go see a movie about Roxbury btw.

Probably going to see this this weekend. Moodles I want to know what you think after you see it. As I said upthread, I used to live in Charlestown so I'm p interested in how this turns out.

u would go see a night at the roxbury

have never seen!

btw I'm no judge of the accents, but I couldn't understand about 5% of the dialogue.

Ben Affleck is a terrible, awful performer. It doesn’t matter how many Bruins or Red Sox jerseys this guy wears, the role of a conflicted criminal mastermind is simply beyond his meager reach. The Town fetishizes Boston’s inner city to an almost comical extent, like a kid from the sticks aching for street cred. (Is it wrong of me to remind one and all once again that Affleck hails from my hometown’s most moneyed suburb?)

http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/screen/reviews/The-Town.html

(Is it wrong of me to remind one and all once again that Affleck hails from my hometown’s most moneyed suburb?)

Affleck was born in Berkeley, California, the son of Christopher Anne "Chris" (née Boldt),[2] a school district employee and teacher, and Timothy Byers Affleck, a drug counselor, social worker, janitor, auto mechanic, bartender, and former actor with the Theater Company of Boston.

^^^wealthy i guess

eh this was ok. the script was way hand-holdy, and the love story that's supposed to drive everything didn't have much zip. entertaining tho, whoever itt said this sound design is great is otm

what was great about the sd? gunfire?

yeah, and the sound of flowers being stemmed

second florist/gangster I've encountered lately, the other being in Underworld (1928)

this movie was predictable and a little boring. disappointment IMO.

still think the three actors in the thread title should have just done a remake of "on the town"

which sing?

just saw this, thought it was ok but hall's character was an absolute void with no friends and nothing going on outside of her relshp with the hoodlum/job at the bank. oh yeah, she had some community garden shit, but no one talked to her there apparently. it was pure laundromat loneliness for this young lady.

so our choices are her, the tooney (?), or lively, the townie.

tooney or townie

overall though i found it entertaining, but i have never been to boston and have no idea how AUTHENTIC it is.

Kr and I thought it was pretty good, actually.

And re Hall's character, she does have the Boys and Girls Club and mentions how she's told a friend about her relationship w/Affleck.

ppl always wanna meet characters who don't matter

i just wanted a 5 sec scene where she was not alone. i know there was the tiny scene at the boys/girls club, but iirc she didn't actually interact with anyone. maybe this was supposed to imply that the tooney lifestyle is a lonely one, whereas the townie lifestyle is one of deep connections and family (however messed up that may be). i dunno.

i still liked the movie, don't get me wrong. i just thought her character was sorta flat. i also wanted affleck to be more of the psycho who beat up the guy who threw bottles at her and less sensitive beardo.

Affleck is not a good fit for that role, obv.

Todd McCarthy wrote that Warners is hoping he turns out to fill Eastwood's niche as a filmmaker/star.

Unexpected: #1 movie this weekend.

y'know, he's not horrible or anything, but I wish he'd stay behind the camera.

otm, and notable as a thought I would never have imagined 5 years ago.

have begun reading thread title as HAMMFLECK

Sotosyn, that's no surprise to me

i thought this was really good. the love story was the weak link (not terrible, just whatever) up until she finds out he's a suspect in the bank robbery, and though it started slow and the pace was off in the first hour it really picked up the rest of the way. liked the scene in the restaurant w/the happy couple and renner, though. liked how hamm played a character who was a totally unlikable douchebag. i dunno, i thought everyone was anywhere from good to excellent in this. renner was awesome.

nice victor garber cameo.

pretty frickin sweet if not quite wicked awesome, i give it three and a half whitey bulgers

(Is it wrong of me to remind one and all once again that Affleck hails from my hometown’s most moneyed suburb?)

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, September 17, 2010 11:10 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

cambridge? pfft weston newton wellsey brookline belmont etc would like to have a talk w/u - not to mention cambridge isnt really a suburb its more its own place - and lol at afflecks family being part of the great berkley/cambridge volvo smarty pants circuit

badly want a .gif of hamm's reaction looking around slowly when he finds the note at the end before he opens it

was a lot better than gone baby gone

naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

yah gbg was best

I was drunk a couple weeks ago at a party in Dorchester and had an extremely lengthy discussion with an old dude from Southie about Gone Baby Gone. I remember him/it being pretty interesting and entertaining at the time but sadly that's about all I remember of it.

see you on this side or the other lol

would've been better if it was abt affleck and the other guy's sister he got pregnant

I'm made queasy by beefcake display shots when the slab himself is directing/producing.

I saw this last night and really enjoyed it. I actually really like Affleck (hides)...so I was okay with him in front of the camera.

Things I loved best: shootout under Fenway, and the lol Dodge Caravan inner city car chase. Loved that there was no OMG-DRAMA music, that the sound guys really got to show off. (and the stunt car drivers too).

Jeremy Renner was fantastic.

the thing that bummed me out about this was that they kept ruining really good heists with really stupid shoot-em-up scenes.

my favorite part was the opening heist, the rest was mostly meh

That whole Fenway climax was a fucking waste... could've been set in any parking garage.

But at least we got to see some black folks at last, working in the ballpark.

the thing that bummed me out about this was that they kept ruining really good heists with really stupid shoot-em-up scenes.

― *lets go* (gr8080), Thursday, September 23, 2010 5:27 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is one of my biggest complaints in all cinema, when a clever set up is resolved through 1m bullets

didnt think the town was totally guilty of this, it just kinda was

thought this was ok. last 5 minutes reminded me of the ending of shawshank redemption though.

The Icerink Redemption

The P'shawshank Reduction

this was enjoyable, but kinda forgettable maybe? like i wouldn't tell anyone omg you have to see the town its just so frikkin sweet

renner was great, though. also having never seen an episode of mad men i feel pretty insulated from the omg its don draper thing

i am not suggesting that renner plays don draper on mad men, btw

Haha. I was underwhelmed by this. Competent,predictable,no great performances etc. I like Boston vowel sounds tho.

And yeah, Hamm's line after reading the note was the best bit

Rebecca Hall is v. v. pretty.

someone was hating on her on another thread plus a friend of mine said she was "not attractive enough to be the love interest in a film" but aye, to me she's very attractive. would walk over hot coals for a sight of her in the scud.

Very forgettable overall. Hamm and Renner were solid, but nothing else really clicked.

this was like point break for bostonians. All its missing is meatball sandwiches and busey.

ikr

it was good til near the end

Rebecca Hall looks like a taller, slightly cuter version of my vv cute hairdresser.

Oh, and I liked this movie.

nice victor garber cameo.

― ('_') (omar little), Monday, September 20, 2010 2:10 AM (3 months ago) Bookmark

otm

micmacs was a better heist movie than this

thought this movie might end with affleck screaming, "I AM QUEEN'S BOULEVARD!"

this was like point break for bostonians. All its missing is meatball sandwiches and busey.

All it's missing is Kathryn Bigelow, and the Affleck gang all wearing masks from the cast of Good Will Hunting.

This was very boring. I expected "solid" but not dull.

yeah i have to admit i didnt dig this too much. i really wanted to like it, i think im predisposed to give a lot of slack to any movie that wants to be Heat as badly as this one did, but i just didnt find it very stirring. heckuva cast, Postlethwait and Hall did the best jobs i thought - renner was great but his character didn't really ~loom~ over things as much as i would've liked. hamm was good enough and i saw what they were going for with his character but tone-wise everything involving him felt off - would've liked for him to be either more of a monster or more of a professional, he just feld underdeveloped idk. lively was great at portraying a certain kind of townie bar skank. found myself wishing Titus Welliver had a meatier role, he was one of my fav dudes in Gone Baby Gone. affleck doesnt bring a lot to the table as an actor but i cant really hate on the guy either.

idk it was well done enough overall, but it was just missing the right ~movie magic~ to bring it all together.

this was p dope but kind of hard to watch, in the technical sense for me - so many meaningless closeups and cuts and camera motions. affleck needs to chill behind the camera

i saw this a couple nights ago! i liked it well enough. i didn't have particularly high expectations going in.

saw this a few weeks ago and thought it was pretty solid and entertaining. fuck if i can remember anything about it other than Hamm being uncomfortably cast though. i really struggle to see him outside of Draper in a dramatic role.

And can't believe Rebecca Hall's sudden investment of $$$$$ in skating rink wouldn't get some police attention

Finally watched this tonight. It was good but not great although I can't really put my finger on why. I thought Blake Lively was pretty great - first time I've seen her in anything. I liked seeing all the Charlestown stuff - the bar they filmed a bunch of scenes in was down the street from my old apartment so that was sorta neat. Overall though I thought it was kind of disappointing.

Met a 50 something year old who grew up in the Charlestown projects recently and wound up talking about this movie which he thought was great. I remember his saying that in his crew you either robbed banks or played hockey. "And some of us did both". Also would still love to know what the old co-worker I mentioned upthread thought of this.

Oh and I really liked Renner.

Him and Pete Postlethwaite were my favorite things..so great

Yeah but then seeing Postlethwaite I got sad that he died. ;_;

thought this sucked, pretty much

renner and double-p were good, hall was... lovely, lively was p good

hamm had a nothing-y role i guess, but he wasn't much good (except for the bit where he did the accent)

didn't believe anything about ben affleck's character or the main story

shootouts like i'd have staged aged 17

needed 20 mins cut out just to be tolerable, but even then, "not oscar material" (not that i give a shit, but really)

the ben affleck sensitive beardbro ending reminded me of the ep of king of the hill where boomhauer moves to canada, grows a beard and falls in love with a francophone woman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unla3bgOcHg AFFLECK RENNER THE TOWN

I saw this when it came out; pretty enjoyable B-level movie with some good scenes...like everyone said Renner was great. The scene where he finds out that Affleck is with the girl from the robbery is pretty fantastic. I just wish the movie was a little more clever. It seemed to play everything pretty straight but then the heist scenes were just over-the-top ridiculous. I really doubt the police would use that much excessive force to bring down a couple of bank robbers, and if they had Affleck and Renner both would have been toast right away. The whole thing is just bullets missing them while they find really fortunate ways to escape death over and over again.

this movie is so terrible
it's like a good will hunting reboot in which actors acquire the haircuts of people poorer than them & stoically jut their jaws while detailing their rootsy hard times
so gross

This is slightly better than The Departed.

crazy talk

Yeah this is really bad. So is Argo. Affleck has a sort of gift for making movies that seem competent enough and slick enough that it takes a while to notice how vacuous they are.

Feel it coming in the air
Hear the screams from everywhere
I’m addicted to the thrill
It's a dangerous love affair
Can’t be scared when it goes down
Got a problem tell me now
Only thing that's on my mind is ham affleck renner the town tonight

ryan otm. like it makes me think of affleck's acting background to watch it, because the direction is a specific, vapid kind of autopilot; aerial shots pan, orchestral swells punctuate walks across chilly prison yards. the trading on the weird sorta integrity/pathos combo of people in some socioeconomically deprived area comes across as really disgusting to me, this cast of like "trashy", or small-horizoned stock characters with just zero personality or spark or life. idk what this film did that just a crude crayon drawing of pete postlethwaite glowering doesn't already achieve.

damm

Gone baby gone tho

this was trash. Argo is boring and lacks anything special except for maybe beard design but it's not bad, in the 90's it would have been very good, prob.

...how?

'gone baby gone' really goes beyond the other two because of the quality of the performances, esp amy ryan and casey affleck imo. the local color in the film is a lot better, too. the plot's more ridiculous but it kinda works despite that. titus welliver and ed harris make that plot twist work better than it should.

xp idk it seems to meet a v specifically 90s setpiece type of aesthetic/ideal, i know affleck's followed ford into jack ryan's boots and imo argo is v v comfortably nestled in that reassuringly expensive zzzzz military soundtracked diplomacy thriller space that was v much the rage in idk 93 say

al leong p much otm re: GBG, in that Harris & Ryan are both excellent, as good as they've been in anything I've seen them in, here. but I think the final judgment on it should still be Irredeemable Trash, just on account of the weird & unbelievable denouement in which popular support for some kind of progressive "finders keepers" rule for child abduction is played like it's nbd. also alfred otm upthread in this being a worthwhile watch just for a totally misjudged Freeman performance.

affleck's Boston ethnography is mainly pretty gross imo. some credit for representation is arguable but the full-screen close ups of thick-lensed guys cleaning their tracheotomy wounds at the bar are mainly too craven to be given credit for.

in the 90's it would have been very good

but not in this golden age of H'wood filmmaking huh

More a comment on its v specific feel rly.

imo argo's better than the town in that it's a much more capable crowdpleaser with a better feel for tension. i wonder how these movies will age, because they feel very 'of the moment' in their filmmaking approach

i just found out the other day that victor garber is gay... i dont know where else to post this

i dont actually remember Freeman in GBG. maybe its time to 'rescreen'

Turns out it was p much a cameo, as himself

but I think the final judgment on it should still be Irredeemable Trash, just on account of the weird & unbelievable denouement in which popular support for some kind of progressive "finders keepers" rule for child abduction is played like it's nbd.

i think your Irredeemable Trash gauge might be stuck in the red dude, its making you dismiss this decent-to-good movie for an arbitrary reason

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was just thinking about "the town" and how little i remember about it. did it have a good car chase sequence in it - or for that matter, is there a movie that has a car chase sequence that does justice to boston?

I just finished The Tender Bar. Mostly bullshit, but Affleck has become pretty good at playing ironic, mildly smart barflies. No relation to his personal life, of course.