ILX FOOD FIGHT!!! Round One - Group E (Subatomic Building Blocks of the Universe group)

OK each of these is a head-exploder for me (except I've never had fondue).

Argggh, fries vs creeps

Eggs, Fondue, Ribs, Crepes

perfect food, default anti-vote (but uh totally not going to win this one), ribs are awesome, kinda dislike 99% of the stuff they call french fries out there (other than the ones in poutine because idk) and always forget that crepes are DOPE

Crepes

Make me feel sick

Crepes vs. French Fries

dear Americans, this is fucking war

I'm voting creeps on the understanding that it is skinny fries and not chips.

Cookies, Tofu, Ribs, Crepes

gonna vote now before i change my mind, these are all hard

Really care about none of these. French fries so inferior to chips I'm not sure I can even give them a sympathy vote.

Cookies, Fondue, Peaches, Crepes, obv

if BBQ Ribs beats Peaches then dammit I am s-ing mdh (although Nectarines >>> Peaches fwiw)

have you ever even had ribs

Eggs, Fondue, Peaches, French Fries

dear Americans, this is fucking war

bring it, we've kneecapped you sissies and sent you home crying twice already

oh wait, that was a couple of centuries ago

Cookies, Fondue, Ribs, French Fries

Crepes vs French Fries is going to be a duel for the ages

have had ribs but not especially good ones - am thinking this might be a 'never been to America' thing but man sinking one's teeth into a peach I mean man

easy tiger, were talking about food here

crepes are gonna lose as big as Mondale did to Reagan in 1984 (still voted for crepes though)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/WilliamCrump63/foodfightbracket1.jpg

Eggs, Tofu, Peaches, Crêpes. Also, all of these would make great skipping rhymes.

I think there should be a separate entry for proper Chips, they don't need to be included with their wimp and wussy cousins, French Fries.

It is such a wimp and wussy version of the mighty Chip, that they're already being beaten by *Crepes*!!

I'd include "proper mighty Chips" in the category of "potatoes" - which I voted for over steak

Eggs vs. Cookies -- my cholesterol count tells the tale. Eggs

Tofu vs. Fondue -- never had fondue. Tofu

Peaches vs. BBQ Ribs -- this is killing me. If I could never eat ribs again, at least I'd still have smoked pulled pork shoulder, so not all barbecue is lost. Peaches

Crepes vs. French Fries -- biggest margin of victory in round one? Fries.

Peaches have a high disappointment rate.

biggest margin of victory in round one?

a) pizza vs olives, b) looking at this thread already there's a strong crepe presence and c) ;_;

yeah, i love peach-flavored things, but the actual ones i get are always too hard.

xp

aw, LJ, the silent majority is all french fry. it doesn't even need to be articulated.

there's simply no comfort-food-that-is-also-a-hearty-lunch like a good cheese and mushroom galette, and very few desserts as satisfying as a lemon and sugar crepe (cream, fruit, honey optional)

crepes are all-time and even if ILX doesn't love them, I do

isn't a galette a sweet pie?

cheese and mushroom crepes are one of the reasons i voted crepes over fries, add smoked salmon to it, and ... *sigh*

Eggs, Fondue, Ribs, Crepes, even though I haven't eaten Fondue or Crepes in years, maybe decades. I would again, though, if they weren't the sweet kind. (Is there a non-sweet kind of crepes? I hope so. Guess I could've gone with French fries instead, but I only ever like the curly ones or smothered-in-gravy ones sometimes, and then only rarely, and I'm assuming this means the plain old regular boring kind.) Otherwise, I'm tofu-phobic, and don't really eat fruits, so sue me.

I voted crepe. Galettes totally count there too, but sweet crepes = lemon, sugar no fucking about. Actually a Suzette's okay if you've got proper booze.

My mom always served them like pancakes, with thick oozy fake maple syrup & butter.

cookies, fondue, ribs, crepes fyi

sweet crepes = lemon, sugar no fucking about

yeah dude that's why I added the others only as optional extras should one feel particularly debauched

like a physical lemon, or lemon juice, or like lemon curd?

xp Abbott - grew up with savory crepes

Proximity to really good peaches counts for a lot.

PS, anybody who ever has a chance to, go here (just south of Macon, GA): http://www.lanesouthernorchards.com/

xhuxk, savory crepes are definitely what I think of when I think of crepes. Like, chicken & mushroom in tarragon cream sauce.

proximity to really good peaches ribs counts for a lot.

lemon juice! wtf

lemon curd MIGHT work but would probably be too thick, too gooey

eggs fondue peaches crepes

I'm putting shabu shabu and hot pot in the fondue category, personally.

savory crepes are definitely what I think of when I think of crepes. Like, chicken & mushroom in tarragon cream sauce

That sounds pretty good! Glad I voted for them.

Eggs, fondue, peaches, fries.

PEACHES > BBQ Ribs. A very hard battle between two strong but flawed competitors. Peaches are highly variable in quality, plus I actually kind of don't like getting slathered in juice as one does when eating a peach ripe enough to taste good. Great as a flavor in ice cream or dessert, not particularly strong as a companion to savory food. BBQ ribs are great but are for me the third-best kind of barbecue (after pulled pork and links) and get penalized for the annoying "BBQ ribs are the only true BBQ" one hears from their partisans.

FRENCH FRIES > CREPES Not that hard, as much as I love crepes. But here French fries is taken to mean FRENCH, i.e. skinny fries, as might appear either next to a steak with hollandaise sauce, or in a cone with mussels, or in a paper bag with a fast food meal. If we were talking crude, thick "chips," crepes take it in a walk.

Actually come to think of it, I used to get those cones of "Belgian fries" (w/ parmesan/peppercorn sauce) a lot late at night in the Lower East Side when I was there, especially if I'd had too many beers at a show and wasn't thinking straight. Always regretted it the next morning (the fries even more than the beer). But maybe should've picked them over crepes anyway, ah well.

Cookies, Fondue, Peaches, French Fries

Eggs are the Worst Thing In The Universe & the component of the one "food" that I think I'd take a bullet in the head rather than eat, namely mayonnaise. I can handle eggs as a component of things like cookies duh but on their own, I think that I would die.

I don't care much about tofu vs. fondue but I've had some good fondue in the countryside so that.

peaches over ribs b/c ribs often suck---& yeah I've been to the Rendezvous in Memphis & thought they were pretty lame. I love bbq but ribs are low on my list there. & yeah peaches! one of the few things that make summer ok.

fries over crepes b/c crepes are too expensive for what you get

It costs pennies to make your own crêpes, and it's super easy.

peeps voting against eggs - please note that unless u are a vegan you dont get like half of that food u like. which uh includes like 70% of yer beloved cookies you knobs.

peeps voting against eggs - please note that unless u are a vegan you dont get like half of that food u like. which uh includes like 70% of yer beloved cookies you knobs.

nonsense, eating a cookie made with eggs isn't eating an egg dish. "eggs" aren't an ingredient on a poll, they're a Thing You Eat.

have fun with your eggless life you charlatan

crepes vs fries = hardest choice you'll ever make...

anyone who has not found the spot in their heart to love poached eggs has many rivers to cross imo

hopefully however you will be able to comfort yourself with your eggless cookies as they crumble in front of you like your aspirations and dreams, egg deniers

on the plus side the crumbs are perfect vehicles to soak up your tears so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63I6i2kztcU

I'm not vegan anymore, but I still don't eat eggs, they're one of the easiest unethical foodstuffs to give up. Eggs are pretty much used only in cookies and cakes and mayonnaise, and there's many eggless cookies available, too if I feel like eating one. Plus if you can bake yourself, it's easy to make cakes with other, non-animal based binding agents.

how are eggs unethical, unless you're a pro-lifer?

You know how egg-producing chicken are raised? How much space they have to move? What kind of behavioural disorders and physical pain they suffer due to being constrained to tiny cages?

(Sorry, I don't want to ruin these threads with animal rights stuff, but since you asked...)

Here's some footage of a regular egg farm, if you can stomach it.

I'm sorry, I'll stop the vegetarian propaganda now.

It's funny how many people think that ethical vegetarians are only against killing of animals (and therefore should have no problem with eggs). Of course there are those "all life is sacred" type of people too, but most vegetarians I know are only against the treatment of animals in mass production of food, not against killing animals per se.

why not just eat free range eggs then? they taste much better too

Yeah, maybe I should have stipulated that the eggs I voted for and can't live without = cage-free brown organics, from chickens fed a vegetarian diet. (1 per day.)

why not just eat free range eggs then? they taste much better too

Free range egg production is generally problematic too. "Free range" is often just a nice word to make the egg production sound ethical, but it doesn't mean the chicken are actually allowed to live free according to their natural behaviour. To quote Wikipedia:

Free range does not imply in any way that the hens were fed any better than in factory farms. The "free roaming" does not provide the main feed supplies, which means that free-range hens can be fed the same animal-derived byproducts or GMO crops, as in factory farming. This is also the main reason why free-range eggs are cheaper than organic eggs.

Consumers of free-range eggs want eggs from hens that are kept under traditional low-density, free-range conditions. Critics of EU-style free-range regulations point out that commercial free-range egg farming, in general, does not live up to these consumer requirements, since the regulations allow the use of yarding rather than free range. Yarding combines a high-density poultry house with an attached fenced yard, and both its methods and results are closer to high-density confinement than true free range.[5]

Even though it's a bit better than caged hen farms, this isn't really ethical treatment of animals to me.

I guess I could eat completely organically produced eggs, but they're not always easy to find. And since eggs are unhealthy and pretty easy to cut off from your diet, it's just simpler no to eat them at all.

Eggs are pretty easy to cut out of your diet unless you like eggs, which are fucking delicious.

Fair enough. My point was merely that unless you're really fond of eggs a such (which I'm not), they're pretty easy to give up, as they aren't used in that many other foods. Unlike, say, milk is.

Any food "you're not really fond of" is easy to give up! (And eggs are used in egg sandwhiches, which is enough for me. Can't remember the last time I cooked with milk.)

Tuomas

as a fellow veg I wanna ask you to check yourself on these threads so that they can be more fun than people rehashing opinons they already know they hold

like foie gras is one thing but eggs, let a man eat some eggs, people know what's up & have all had these discussions before

xp (Well, unless coffee counts. Would be hard to give up that milk, for sure. But otherwise, not at all.)

Eggs, Tofu, Peaches, French Fries

Fuck cookies. What kind of grown-assed man eats cookies. ; )

I make this cornmeal-lemon cookie that I guarantee you would have even the most exacting food snob on ilx weeping with joy

as a fellow veg I wanna ask you to check yourself on these threads so that they can be more fun than people rehashing opinons they already know they hold

Yeah, I know, I'm sorry about that. It's just that Sarahel asked why eggs are unethical and I wanted to answer. Personally, I think everyone is free to choose their diet, but I think everyone should also know how the stuff they eat is produced.

Hey, Aero, I meant to ask on the homemade molé thread on ILC -- what does a vegetarian do with molé once he's made it? No snark, srsly curious as to what finished dishes are the result.

man there is a bunch you can do with it - it's been a while but I think the first thing I did was just a fried tofu in mole, but that mole was so damn good we were stirring it through everything - steamed rice dishes can always take some sauce stirred through, it was good on penne with some parmesan, it was good with roasted vegetables (potatoes, carrots, cassava, plantains)

I do know that penne with mole is indefensible savagery btw but I'm tellin you that made for a good lunch

Eggs, Tofu, Ribs, Fries

Eggs because a fried egg on top of everything pretty much always makes it better. The Uptown Hash at Manny's Uptown Kitchen in Austin is a great example of this.

Tofu mainly because fondue is horrible and doesn't deserve to win. Also tofu can be combined with lots of yummy sauces. Lately I've been digging a great Mapo Tofu from the Szechuan restaurant down the street from my house. (Asia Cafe for all you Austin peeps).

Ribs because that's pretty much my overall favorite food, especially from The Salt Lick.

Fries - this was tricky because I might prefer crepes, but I eat fries about a thousand times more frequently.

This is worth repeating --

It costs pennies to make your own crêpes, and it's super easy.

― CONGO, M.D., Sunday, July 25, 2010 2:28 AM (7 hours ago)

tuomas, if u wanna get down with animal rights business and have a safe place to not know about american stuff: rolling stupid crazy veggie swag thread

soft boiled eggs with a squirt of soy sauce in the yolk makes me weak in the knees

I think mole wld be good all over some veg enchiladas!

aw - sorry about the eggs question - i was just hoping someone would make funny fetus-eating jokes.

Ah, but eggs are not fetuses, they're more like chicken menses.

Eggs are pretty easy to cut out of your diet unless you like eggs, which are fucking delicious.

― flashing drill + penis fan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, July 25, 2010 9:51 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol'd @ this

menses vs cookies then

Though apparently in some countries you can eat actual bird fetuses.

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(Don't click on that link unless you want to see some graphic pics of bird fetus dishes.)

so is fondue still "a thing" in the UK? cos I remember as a kid in the USA seeing...magazine ads? movies? tv shows? I dunno? in which fondue was a feature; but now it seems to be of a kind with mahogany panelling & heart-shaped hot tubs in the Poconos.

at (arguably) the nicest restaurant in La Paz, Bolivia, fondue is still a thing. That's another way of making my point.

Yeah, I included fondue because a few people mentioned it, but my general feeling is "wtf, the 1970s were a long long time ago."

If fondue ends up beating tofu, that would be a huge injustice! A quaint snack vs. an incredibly versatile foodstuff that essential to many delicious dishes... How can you vote for fondue?

Fondue doesn't taste like drafting erasers.

haha yeah; I voted for fondue b/c I have fond memories of it; I eat tofu more often but it's just a vehicle for soaking up a fantastic sauce; on its own it's at best tasteless.

But tofu is not that different from meat in that it all depends on how you prepare and spice it. Meat and tofu are both totally bland as such, but you can make awesome dishes out of them if you know what to do.

fondue is not still a thing in the uk; unless you count chocolate fondue, in which case it's merely a tacky thing at corporate functions or weddings

yeah I didn't think it was---obv. it's still kind of a thing in France, though it's a regional thing.

I guess queso fundido is fondue, though? maybe that'll pump up its votes?

Meat...totally bland as such

OMG SO WRONG!

there are plenty of other substances that can be used in place of tofu

You ever it meat without spicing/marinating it in some way? That's the same with tofu - if you think it tastes like erasers, you probably haven't eaten a properly marinated and fried tofu.

i have eaten bacon and sausage quite frequently without spicing/marinating it in any way.

Steak, grilled chicken, bacon, roast beef, pork chops etc etc etc can be perfectly tasty as is with no need for spicing and marinating, yes. I can't imagine, say, a simple sprinkle of black pepper will improve tofu to any massive extent.

Err isn't bacon 67% salt or something?

If only there was a way for tofu to have myoglobin in it without playing god.

When I grill a steak, the only thing it gets is salt.

You ever it meat without spicing/marinating it in some way?

All the time. And yes, I've had tofu in some excellent sauces, but it's not the tofu you taste. Tofu is just a protein sponge.

The thing that well-cooked tofu really has going for it as a flavour-vehicle is its texture IMO. Had some great stuff that's been crisp and firm on the outside, but then you bite into it and it's awesomely light and melty. That's why I can't get with these eraser comparisons.

Eggs, Fondue, Ribs, French Fries

Eggs vs Cookies - assumed all biscuits here: biscuits are sweet stuff, in the main, all ok-ish as far as wweet stuff goes. but... scrambled. fried. poached. baked. omelette. Mayonnaise. eggs innit.

Fondue vs Tofu. MMMM fondue. always used to have fondue on my mum's birthday, followed black forest gateau lol 80s. it was, and remains, a big deal. the right amount of emmenthal and gruyere, kirsch, the right wine etc. not a contest at all.

Peaches vs Ribs. Ribs not my favourite bbq meat, but peaches are boring. I don't have much of a sweet tooth.

French Fries vs Crepes is hard. I love crepes, but I read Fries as including chips, and as the best chips in the world are fried on this coast, it'd be disloyal to vote against them. plus, mussels and fries with mayonnaise & the breton pancakes lose by a short nose. a shame, though. a good crepe with cheese, ham and mushrooms is wonderful.

I voted for pasta so don't think I have the right to reject tofu on the grounds that it's primarily a flavor-carrier. But fondue is great! And fondue/raclette is still totally a thing in France and Switzerland, at least.

Also, I am pissed that macaroni and cheese wasn't nominated and I think voting for both fondue and pasta is as close as I can come to making up for it.

and as the best chips in the world are fried on this coast, it'd be disloyal to vote against them

-_-

xp - yeah, why wasn't macaroni & cheese nominated? What is wrong with you people? Macaroni & Cheese is fucking canon!

it was nominated, it was one of the last things cut for space iirc

Ah, but eggs are not fetuses, they're more like chicken menses.

― Tuomas, Sunday, July 25, 2010 12:03 PM (1 hour ago)

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it was nominated, it was one of the last things cut for space iirc

dag, if I'd known that I might have voted against fondue for taking mac n cheese's rightful place.

i think plain old fried tofu has a pretty good taste even w/o marinade

well yeah cuz it's FRIED

FRIED potatoes are delicious, raw ones arent

nah that's not really it. tofu is just good.

that's not even a good comparison anyway! plain cooked potatoes are good too

yeah I mean are you gonna claim boiled steak is delicious

i have eaten bacon and sausage quite frequently without spicing/marinating it in any way.

this is a joke, right - both these meats are heavily spiced & flavored & smoked & treated by the time they get to you

sausage meat without having been treated would make you feel quite ill I'd guess

dude meat has totally changed in the past 15 years - sausages are now hewn straight from the cow iirc

they force feed the cows the sausage mixture and divvy up the intestines

sausage meat without having been treated would make you feel quite ill I'd guess

this is a joke, right? or is this another us/uk thing, do you not have plain ol' 100% pork sausages over there?

it is a joke isn't it. damn there's too much challops and regional confusion on these threads.

You can get plain ground pork, but in the US it isn't sausage unless it's got some seasoning in it - usually paprika, sage, thyme, black pepper.

Yeah, I've never heard of sausage that would be just pure meat without anything else added to it.

Eggs, Tofu, Peaches, Crepes

Can't believe I missed this poll over the weekend. Not really a tough one for me.

I LOVE bbq ribs, but I love peaches more. Though both can be really really really good or really really really gross. still, a mushy mealy flavorless peach is less disgusting/offensive to my stomach than a bad bbq rib because it does not contain body parts.

Yeah, I've never heard of sausage that would be just pure meat without anything else added to it.

Come to Scotland and eat a square sausage, food of the gods. Obviously you won't, because you're vegetarian, but they are ace.

Does not sound appealing to this carnivore tbh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sliced_sausage

Mmmmmm.

EGGS FONDUE PEACHES CREPES

a number of tough choices, starting w eggs vs cookies. cookies are great, but mostly depend on eggs, like a million other indispensable dishes, so eggs it is.

fondue vs. tofu is harder than it should be. tofu's a staple at my house, but i wouldn't miss it terribly if it disappeared, and i LOVE cheese fondue, it was always a special christmas meal around our house

peaches vs. ribs sounds tough, but isn't. absent ribs, i'd just eat some other BBQ, but absent peaches i would be inconsolable.

and crepes are just better than fries. easy call.

still having doubts about fondue vs. tofu though...

wouldn't want to eat cheese goo more than 1ce a year

CMON THE CREPE BRIGADE

^^^this matters to me more than any other first-round result

I voted eggs, fondue, ribs, fries, but I'm really regretting the last choice. Went for them because I have them more, but a good crepe is so much better than even the best fries.

i said this on my veggie thread, but fondue is some prom dinner bullshit

oh, emil.y

i dunno - apricots are a decent substitute for peaches

i voted crepes for the following reason:

they are delicious alone, just plain BUT they are usually served with a wide variety of sweet AND savory fillings and "french fries" (ie fried potatoes) just can't really compare with that no matter how salty and delicious they are

I just KNOW that fries are gonna win by 1 vote now

are you "fries are boring" ppl discounting sweet potato fries

im sure they are, they must be punished

it is less 'fries are boring', more 'fucking hell crepes'

sweet potato fries, when done just right, are incredible, and give crepes a run for their hypothetical money - but i've had a lot of mediocre sweet potato fries

I'm sorry, LJ! I was wrong, I admit it.

Also, fondue may not be great but tofu is terrible. I also have abiding love for the existence of fondue due to a long-standing in-joke that is too convoluted to go into here.

I have never fucked a hell crepe; if I had, maybe I would have voted differently

you, sire, are in a silly mood today

white potato, sweet potato -- that's just a different substance and it's just not that different
it can't compare with crepes
sorry

it's like saying sandwiches vs fries
i'm gonna vote sandwiches

I voted fondue out of kneejerk meat-eater unexcited-by-tofu feeling but now I am wondering why, because I have had fondue once and it was not particularly exciting (and I speak as someone who eats way too much melted cheese) whereas I love miso soup and the tofu is the best bit

yeah, good crepes are amazing, and so much more versatile than any kind of fried tuber could ever be. i love fries, but no contest here.

Even though I voted for peaches over ribs, let the following be a case for fries over crêpes. The pic is of fries & ribs at LCs in KC, the best bbq restaurant in the best city for bbq; like, these fries on their own justify a visit to KC. They're cut thick and left soaking in water until you order them, at which point the deep frier is filled with oil from their smoker and the fries are fried once, & then a second time. It takes a little while but seriously, they're amazing. I've had equally good fries once in Paris, but o/w these are the best fries I've ever had.

http://www.kansastravel.org/kansastravelblog/blog090130a.JPG

fondue was my favorite thing as a kid in the 70s - tofu is useful, but it does not bring me joy

have u fondudes done up some fried tofu? or used the silken kind for creamy sauces and...i mean its a goddamn miracle food yall and yall trying to come at me with liquid cheese, i mean slow clap u have fancy nacho sauce now. fuck outta here.

well congratulations on eating earth sperm, your mutant soy babies will be bursting out of your chest in 45 weeks

lol @ "fancy nacho sauce"; maybe if nacho cheese were made with wine! (I guess I've had nacho cheese made with beer but we were drunk, I didn't mean it, officer)

xp - i was in a relationship with a vegetarian for 10+ years - I have eaten tofu in almost every possible variety - still voting fondue

i said this on my veggie thread, but fondue is some prom dinner bullshit

― feelin on yo (_(__) (m bison)

yeah, fondue is not that great, and tofu actually IS, once you get the hang of it. and has endless utility. should win hands-down.

i only vote fondue in light of childhood christmas eve nostalgia, powerful force. everyone else should be voting tofu. soft tofu in chinese soup is amazing. marinated and baked firm tofu can be made to taste like anything, is seriously one of my favorite foods. fried in agedashi, etc...

Yeah, if something nice but useless like fondue is really gonna beat something as essential and, when prepared well, delicious as tofu, I just don't understand ILX...

also for any Pittsburgh people, this following pic will ring a lol bell:

http://onlyinpgh.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/small-child-vs-_O_-fries.jpg

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xp to euler - that is one place that does fries rly well and they're super crispy and w/e

there is no such thing as a crepe that isn't delightful, barring bad choice of filler

and that second pic is a beautiful argument in favour of crepes tbh

tuomas - the key to understanding ilx is the fact that there are posters that do not share your tastes, assumptions and practices

I've had equally good fries once in Paris, but o/w these are the best fries I've ever had.

that may be, but given the choice, i'm taking the plate of ribs. and i took peaches over those, so....

http://media.rd.com/rd/images/rdc/toh-06-0405/asparagus-ham-crepes-recipe-01-af.jpg

EAT ME

I just KNOW that fries are gonna win by 1 vote now

would be shocked if it's that close tbh

are those burritos? xp

actually: in a French supermarket recently we broke down & bought corn tortillas, which turned out to be basically crêpes (of flour, no less). We cried.

lj just made me regret voting for crepes

savory crepes are one of my least-favorite foods

except when in the form of Ethiopian food

nonono the point of crepes is that they are made before your very eyes on a round hotplate - the hotplate is cleaned with some lemon juice, then a ladle of mixture is put on the hotplate, then is spread around with a flat thing into a circle, then is cooked on both sides, then is filled with nice things, folded up and given to you

if you think crepes are something you can buy in finished form in a supermarket then you are American

yes, preferably in france, where they won't sneak asparagus in xp

if you think you can tell someone living in France who buys things from French markets how French food is prepared and sold, you are LJ

xp - how much do you actually know about American supermarkets, Louis?

this would be a good time to tell the story about when a stranger stole my crepe

xxp they look a bit too pancakey for crepes? these are more like my idea of crepes http://blogs.nyu.edu/blogs/eep247/ny/c.jpg or or or http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ktxppdApZq1qa9ota.jpg

right---pretty standard ham/cheese/egg galette (which I assume we're including under crêpes)

they look delicious though - if i actually cared about this poll, i might regret my cookies vote

French supermarkets != French markets - a crepe is simply not something you get out of a chilled cabinet

tom those are also nice-lookin' - second one's more galette than crepe I think but we agreed galettes count

a galette - IN AMERICA - is a fruit pie

a few weeks ago I had a bacon & prune galette which was ace (& a crêpe with frangipane) but I'll still take fries

For a moment I thought that second picture was fried bread. Where the hell IS fried bread in these polls anyhow?

eggs vs. cookies is tough, but on the principle of 'what would i really miss," eggs, easy.

i like tofu and fondue is just shit stuck into cheese. barely even a food imo.

peaches vs ribs also sorta tough, but as cuts of meat go i'm not a rib man, and a perfect peach is one of the most perfect things ever.

and, fries, wtf.

On the outside looking in. xp

stolen crepe story - one of the most tragic moments of my life:

this was in paris just outside of gare montparnasse, like, after midnight when there weren't a lot of people around, and I'm walking down the street really happily eating my cheese/egg/mushroom crepe going to my friend's house.

this really tall black dude comes up to me and asks for a bite. I'm like "well...no." and then he asks for a bite again. and I start walking away. and then he grabs my crepe, starts eating it and walks off into the night.

fried bread is in the screaming void of expelled food along with mac & cheese & pretzels

http://www.amazon.com/Melissas-Ready-Use-Crepes-Packages/dp/B0000TL5WS

wow you guys are opinionated about crepes, it took 4 tries to post that

damn you Perry

also ffs LJ I didn't buy crêpes at the supermarket, I bought corn tortillas, which turned out to be indistinguishable from crêpes, much to my unhappy surprise. If that's what tortillas are thought to be in Europe, then no wonder tacos/burritos aren't really appreciated.

xp yeah, the galette/crêpe I had a few weeks ago was just outside the Gare Montparnasse, but at midday on a Sunday; big Breton area there, no?

yeah tons of places around there, this was just one of the street crepes though

my rec for best street crepe in the city is au p'tit grec on mouffetard

If that's what tortillas are thought to be in Europe, then no wonder tacos/burritos aren't really appreciated.

On the rare occasions I've had proper tortillas, I've really enjoyed them, although the British concept of tortillas is usually just triangular tortilla chips. The stuff you got was probably the roll-up fajita casing we're sold here to contain Mexican food - it's not ideal

The better tacos I've had have been a curved, almost-cylindrical U-shape corn piece - take it this is closer to what a tortilla really is

A tortilla is just a flat piece of either cornmeal w/ water that's been pressed thin, or something similar-ish but with wheat flour, then cooked until it coheres. They're soft; to get them hard you have to buy them dinner fry them. It's not all that different from a crêpe, I guess, but I think crêpe dough typically has sugar in it & are less "coherent" than tortillas, which are pretty solid.

yeah a crepe is very soft and ever so slightly glutinous - a tortilla is a bit more brittle, right? crepe with taco meat would be a pretty weird combination, not that it couldn't work if done well

crepe with taco meat is homing in on ethiopian food, as dan pointed out

Speaking of subatomic building blocks of the universe, I discovered the Buford Highway Farmers Market on my last trip to Atlanta, and they have, like, a little fresh tortilla factory in the back by the bread section. Watching them come off the conveyor belt is hypnotic. I ate a bunch of free samples and spent the rest of my shopping trip holding on to a bundle of 30 that were so fresh they almost burned me.

No, a tortilla isn't brittle unless you fry it.

we made tortillas in kindergarten - it was really fun!

Guys, I think I have had proper tortillas! It's just very confusing because people here seem to think that Doritos are what tortillas are

lj are you thinking of hard taco shells

http://www.deliclass.co.uk/shop/images/Old%20El%20Paso%20Original%20Tacos%20Kit.jpg

LJ - please, please PLEASE stop posting about Mexican food, unless it is to state that

a) what passes for Mexican food that you have eaten is probably alien to people that have eaten the "real" thing
b) you don't know what you're talking about (see item a)

Who thinks that? Surely people know the difference between tortillas and tortilla chips?

xpost

tortillas = corn or wheat flatbread

tortilla chips = cut up & fried tortillas

Doritos = not actually food

no I *had* been thinking of hard taco shells but Euler and WmC put me right - I'm now thinking of round corny things that can be rolled

shut up sarahel I'm just getting the terminology straight! christ. yes I know Doritos are rubbish - I didn't actually think they had anything to do with tortillas

sarah's right tho, lj. only good tortillas around here are made by my gf's mom

Doritos are kinda good tbh

there's a massive difference in how crepes and tortillas are made, anyway - good tortillas dry out slowly and good crepes form through instant heating - crepe mixture is more doughy and luxurious, tortilla mixture is drier and more suited to minced meat

doritos are the best, but that's a totally different thing

both crepes and torillas are good for jacketing minced meat tho...

contenderizer otm

Would vote dorritos over tacos if pressed.

I wouldn't, but I would seriously consider it

Doritos are the only chip/crisp-based snack I like

there is no way i would vote doritos over tacos - unless the tacos in question were made in the UK

Doritos are obviously junk food - I still eat them, but they're clearly crap. Cool Original is the best flavour, followed by Spicy Chili.

dan when you as an american use the term crisps the terrorists have already etc etc

don't be jealous just because I'm multilingual

hahaha do they call cool ranch doritios "cool originals" in the uk thx to your godless ranch free ways?!

yeah, here in the Doritos Homeland - the ones with "ranch" are the best

Fritos, vinegar-salt potato chips, and Harvest Cheddar Sun Chips are the only crisps I care for anymore.

ok see now you are doing it

sun chips can eat my ass

surprisingly, I still don't like them

u r still traumatized by the violent out bursts of L1z t4nn3r

holy painful stifled lol

you know she's the new Ms O, right

O rly

Sun Chips are horrible! - God, I feel like I'm arguing about bearsharktopus vs. bearotaur here.

Spicy Chili Doritios, if that's the flavor I'm thinking it is, are some amazing horrendous bullshit

i think i did know that.

that was a lady that would let neither god nor country between her and her sun chips. is she 4000 lbs now?

no! she's like close to Broadway skinny!

Tangy Cheese Doritos are some amazing horrendous bullshit

wtf kind of flavor is "Tangy Cheese"

dear UK, stop ruining our "food"

now you are just making up names tho xpost

have you tried the new Walnut and Prawn Cluster Doritos yet

srsly if there are two words that should never be put together, they are "cheese" and "tang"

"I was in the mood for some crisps so I picked up some Musty Todger Doritos"

lolling at Walnut & Prawn Cluster Doritos - just imagine if Tuomas was on this thread posting about Finnish flavored Doritos - we would have no idea whether he was making stuff up!

if it didn't sound completely utterly revolting he would probably be making it up

Licorice Herring Doritos

LJ - how do feel about Curried Lamb & Pomegranate Doritos?

Lappi Herring Doritos, coming soon to Helsinki shops

xp: aw thunder stolen by WmC

guacamole bubblegum dorritos

guacamole bubblegum dorritos

Pretty sure they sell those in Japan.

only it's not Doritos, it's tea

actually dying here

only it's not tea, it's a dancing robot

someone - please create packaging for these great products imagined by ilxors!

If only I could find a job Photoshopping shit like that for krazy Japanese food companies, I would be happy forever.

From my extensive travels as a crips connoisseur, the crisp selection in US is a bit more limited than at home in yr average store - generally a big selection of the tortilla Doritos type, a few flavours of "Lays" (Walkers) which luckily for me include barbecue flavour, and cheesy stuff like Cheetos. Oh and a lot of the Kettle chips in Whole Foods. Haven't seen many multipacks (instead, HUGE single packs), stuff like Hula Hoops, Space Raiders etc etc but then I tend to get my crisps in liquor stores.

My bff sent me some space raiders and old-school Monster Munch in the post, along with a big bar of Dairy Milk (damn does that taste AMAZING after living here nearly a year). Best package ever.

I just realised I really, really miss Lamb & Mint Walkers Sensations :(

Walkers Sensations, Kettle Chips and Tyrells are the 'quality' crisps we get here. They're very nice - much MUCH nicer than that Walkers Original shit.

Also, any Americans seeking to bolster their idea of British Mexican food, I completely coincidentally just happened across this:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/reviews/cantina-laredo-st-martins-courtyard-10-upper-st-martins-lane-london-wc2-2031533.html

A whole poblano pepper, stuffed with ground beef, pork, almonds and raisins, entombed in clammy batter and deep-fried into a damp, school dinnerish horror. As the pepper leaked what moisture it had, the batter grew heavy and grey. Instead of something fresh and green, I was faced with an item that looked and tasted like it had been dug up on the Mexican Day of the Dead.

Mmm, clammy batter

not just clammy, but heavy and grey too!
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Used to go to a really nice Mexican restaurant in Bristol (UK), and get veggie burritos from this hippie juice bar place. The first one was pretty good but kind of 'standard' selection of food. The second was NOTHING like what proper Cal-Mex type food is like. I would class their burritos as 'wraps'.

how can they still give 2 stars to the place with 'the single worst dish the reviewer has yet encountered in her professional career'?

I mean what would a 1 star place be

nandos

chocolate/cheese fish fondue house

the problem with crepes is that they are so damn rich. milk eggs AND butter in the damn dough. I always feel like I'm going to throw up after just one

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51eDb0emVjL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg

yeah you delicate flowers are better off stuffing your face with starchy salty oily fries

I click to look inside but it do nothing ;_;

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

What's the difference between regular tortilla chips and doritos? Because you can get former here, but no the latter, I think.

doritos have doritos brand flavor dust on them

So basically they're just tortilla chips with a specific spice blend?

not just - they have a whole line of magical spice blends that are the sole intellectual property of doritos llc

pretty sure doritos is not an llc

What do you mean by "magical"?

made by elves

magical = not controlled by an llc - like fucken magnets

what is your problem with llcs?

{how do they work?}

llrc

magical = MSG

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

itt: disgusting American savages

WmC, your penance for being so brash in fries' defence is that you have to count all of these now. Have fun!

97 - 47

jesus fondue beat tofu???

really is fondue even a thing

tbh i have no idea what beat anything in these polls because my eyes glaze over at all the numbers

fondue is indeed a thing - a delicious thing - involving cheese

Cookies lost!?!?

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/EoMSh0gun/cookie-monster-diet.jpg

eggs are breakfast and breakfast is v important

somewhere there is a place where people actually eat duck confit and fondue all the time
wtf at this awful result

glad fondue won because my vote wasn't entirely in vain ;_; but yeah awful result itp

My family eats meat fondue (oil rather than cheese) at it's special occasions. The nice thing is that the meal takes a long time, so it's more about conversation/music etc than most meals. So it got my vote. Plus, tofu? Maybe vegetarians can trick themselves into liking it, but I can't think of a time in the last 5 yrs I've eaten it. Easy vote.

Eggs 89 > Cookies 55
Fondue 73 > Tofu 71
Peaches 72 = Ribs 72 UH OH
French Fries 97 > Crepes 47

def need to have UH OH shakedown sudden death matches.

24hr polls (or w/e the minimum is)

If I go with calories as the tiebreaker, that knocks out two fruits, leaving only limes.

HMMMMMMMM

can't you just turn the next round to a three-way with the tied options both moving forward? Like: berries vs burritos vs whatever they'd be up against?

No, two foods enter, one food leaves.

Eggs, Fondue, Ribs, French Fries 24
Eggs, Fondue, Peaches, French Fries 9

This argues for peaches on the grounds that the people who got their way on the other 3 largely supported ribs.

If I did lightning-round tiebreakers, I don't see any incentive for anybody to change their votes, so they'd just wind up tied again.

They probably wouldn't tie again though, because there are probably ilxors who only look at the board on the weekend who won't see a tiebreaker.

Fuck it, this needs to be solved by SCIENCE.

I told you there were gonna be ties!

science: ribs are better than peaches

yeah see a short poll midweek will likely draw at LEAST one more or less voter, so it's virtually guaranteed to not be deadlocked

everyone should go eat a rib and a ripe peach and reevaluate their position

this is unfair to the south

this set of results upsets me. fondue over tofu. bah

Yeah, that one is very O_o to me.

I half jokingly nominated fondue because I just naming random foods and honestly didn't expect it to ever actually be in the poll. I'm glad it won though.

I guess it partially makes up for my legitimate nominations (poutine and duck confit) losing terribly.

you are the poutine duck. it all makes sense.

How can you be boohooing over fucking tofu when CREPES and WAFFLES just both got knocked out? Seriously fuck you ilx, I'm never posting here again.

Well, basically I'm not gonna vote for desserts and snacks over proper foods here, because they're not as essential, I can live without them. I think it would've been fairer if desserts had gotten their own poll.

How can you be boohooing over fucking tofu when CREPES and WAFFLES just both got knocked out? Seriously fuck you ilx, I'm never posting here again.

bitter tears over crepes, waffles (tho i love u) not so much. tofu's kind of a tragedy too, especially losing to something as entirely useless as fondue, but it's hard to get worked up about.

because they're not as essential, I can live without them

lol whut? you're voting for foods on the basis of their merits in aiding your survival? who are you, ray mears?

Er, food can be both essential and tasty.

If I go with calories as the tiebreaker, that knocks out two fruits, leaving only limes.

HMMMMMMMM

less calories is better tho so the fruits stay

how is fondue useless? it is nourishing, and it is delicious. These are two useful properties of fondue. In summary, fondue is not useless because it is nourishing and delicious.

fondue is useless because it is a pot of beige goo, reeking of kirsch until that shit cooks off, and it is suitable only for the preparation of fondue. you can't stuff a goose with it. it does not lend itself kindly to sandwitches. it is goo and only goo, wasted unless twirled about spongy bread on a very specific fork. and who has such forks, hand-hammered by ruddy-faced viking descendants on their allegedly unintoxicated days after? but who can trust a sober viking? no one, that is who. therefore, ordinary forks are pressed into service and the valuable hair that cradle our knuckles becomes singed on the cheese-sputtering alcohol flame. there is no part of this that is not a problem. plus i feel so gross thereafter, my belly full of gruyere and caloric regrets...

meat fondue tho...