ILX FOOD FIGHT!!! Round Two - South Bracket

Falafel, Berries, Soup, Steak

bagels, berries, kebabs, steak

Bagels, Berries, Soup, Fish

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bagels berries soup fish

Bagels, Crab, Kebabs, Fish

oh no this means burritos lost didnt they FUUUUUCCKCCKKKKK

you can take away my burritos but YOURE NOT GETTING MY FALAFEL

Falafel, Berries, Kebabs, Steak

yeah the brit contingent has this out of whack, gran's flange or some shit is gonna end up winning this whole thing

falafel vs limes championship or bust

Falafel, Berries, Soup, Fish

no way am i voting for a fucking BAGEL when BREAD is not in this competition

i mean honestly. bagels?

Falafel, Berries, Soup, Steak

IMPOSSIBLE BUT UGH fine falafel, if i want to eat something like a crab ill just overturn a rotting piece of wood and chow down ugh so fucking vile, soup is the greatest, ok fine maybe just fuck anything that crawls swims or lurks in the sea (sushi exempted)

A vote for bagels is a consolation vote for the exclusion of bread

someone could have told me that before i voted

still, i like falafel a lot and it doesn't have to be fried. i bake mine.

^^^ does not like falafel

FALAFEL BERRIES KEBABS FISH

my god fish

FISH

motherfucking FISH

goddamn

FISH

Bagels, Berries, Soup, Steak

Bagels, a case of crabs, kebabs, fish

Bagels, Berries, Soup, Steak

― peter in montreal

^^^^

Bagels, Crab, Kebabs, Fish

(20 years ago, would've voted steak for sure.)

Bagels, Berries, Soup, Fish

trying not to vote in rounds where I'd have to vote for something I won't actually eat, so no vote from me here. would vote for berries and soup and probably bagels but that's tougher. soup is the best thing left in the tournament by a good distance in my opinion.

i mean honestly. bagels?

― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

^^ dead to me

bagels, crab, soup, fish btw

bagles/berries/dont care/fish

i really only have the vaguest notion of what a 'kebab' is even tho i think ive eaten them

Falafel/berries/soup/ewww

Falafel, berries, soup, fish.

Falafel is like one of the top 10 foods of all time, and unlike with tofu, I can't imagine even meat-eaters hating a proper falafel.

Steak vs. fish was a head-scratcher for a vegetarian, but back from the day when I was eating those things, I remember fish having more nuance. Steak is just echhh! Obviously fish tends to be more ethical too.

Bagels, I don't think I'll ever understand that. It just tastes like dry bread to me.

Falafel, Berries, Soup, Fish

kinda want to vote against berries b/c they evidently vanquished burritos but fuck it, berries.

I'm not really passionate about any of these foods fwiw.

Falafel, Crab, Kebabs, Fish, Death to Fruitarians

Euler aren't you a cook? How can you not be passionate about soup!!!

by "cook" I mean in the sense of "chef" but I use "cook" because I consider it a noble term

I myself am a cook & I make great soups

I am a cook of ideas, not food; though I guess I am a cook like you in that I love to cook food! & actually I like soup lots but I'm not passionate about it today (the cake battle still burns & it will take time for those wounds to heal).

We make a fabulous Thai soup that is sadly not veg friendly as it depends on a chicken broth but actually the key is obv. coconut milk & we can all join in celebrating that element of soup I think.

OH SHIT i just voted for steak by misteak. Bring on the sock... also nearly reflexively voted for bagels because lol vegetarian (yes i know bagels are veggie too), but i never eat bagels and quite like falafel.

iatee ON SOME MONEY right from the start:

Falafel, Berries, Soup, Steak

that is how some shit needs to go down.

and i realize i am a savages voting steak (one measly cow!) over all kinds of fish, but sacrifices must. burned cow knowes no equal, includes ribs, strips, flanks, briskets, etc. would give up all other meats (including fish, but luckily, not including shellfish!) just to eat the meats of a cow.

falafel = who gives a shit, but at least it's better than round bread. berries over crab is easy, cuz at least u can still eat lobster. and you'd rather do that anyway. or shrimp! kebaps are some on as tick bullshit, and soup eats like a meal, so that. which brings us back to cow vs. fish and about which i have said (as a disgusting savage) COW. i take cow over all you slippery bounty of the sea. fight me if you wanna, but ho ha ha, u can't because you are unable to breathe air. so u lose ha suckers.

damn that was not coherent

well, not to be mean but ... an argument against bagels in favor of falafel is by its nature incoherent, unless you have celiac disease or something similar

I want falafel to win now tofu's out

Bagels, Berries, Soup, Steak

Of all the amazing breads in the world, we're supposed to vote for some tough, dried out sandwich bun with a damned inconvenient stupid hole in the middle??? I have no truck with anything else in this bracket, but it was still a nice, easy choice :-

Falafel, Berries, Soup, Steak

and you're supposed to vote for it against a top 10 all time food
http://i38.tinypic.com/307p7bb.gif

stop scarin me with that guy

and yes, fried cumin bean wads over round holey bread wads anyday

i am sorry to you jewish bakers of round

Gotta agree with the previous posts, I never understood what's so special about dried bread in a funny shape.

it's bread, for a start, and not falafel

i mean honestly. bagels?

― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

^^ dead to me

― not everything is a campfire (ian), Thursday, July 29, 2010 12:19 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

oh man, that smarts! in retrospect, i do feel that i've wronged the bagel with my vote against it. i lived on bagels for the summer of '87. i bonded with my grandparents over bagels. that should have counted for something.

I lived the summer of ´96 on cheap frozen pizzas, but even then I thought it was disgusting.

is there an option for 'cheap, frozen' pizzas?

just again, i thought the spirit of the poll was voting for good examples of the options offered, or what's the point?

I voted for falafel and all, but bagels are really the burritos of this round in the 'you think you no, but you have no idea' sense

haha 'know'

this summer of bagels is my childhood, and they were good bagels. they didn't do anything wrong to me. they nourished me as well as they could -- which, let's face it, was not very well -- and didn't cause me any harm.

i guess either one could win and i would be happy. cannot say the same for BERRIES vs CRAB.

Mail me some bagels then, and I'll see if I'll change my mind.

(x-post to Iatee.)

like all bread, you can't compare a bagel you got in the grocery store to one that was baked that day by people who've done it their whole lives.

not willing to pay overnight postage to finland.

Bagels, Berries, Soup, Fish

also subbing in Bagels for bread, the most wonderful food in the world. Vegetarian so the next two were easy. Voted Fish on behalf of my cat.

Surprised that fish seems to be destroying steak so far - I know it's more versatile and there's a bigger variety of fish & recipes etc etc but man a great steak is just about as satisfying a thing as you can eat sometimes.

man if fish loses to steak

but of course, probably a more just comparison is 'fish meat' vs 'cow meat'

Bagels, Berries, Soup, Fish

re: bagels vs. falafel -- britishes who are all "americshes u wrong abt curry u know nothing" flipping around and calling bagels shit? paging dr. stfu

berries because a) they're amazing and b) crab beat poutine and i cannot accept this and c) crabs looks like demons

soup and kebabs was tough but when i think about some of the best meals in my life, not necessarily by flavour but a combo of that + how damn GOOD i felt after, no question. soup includes BUTTERNUT SQUASH soup and i can't ignore that. sorry, kebabs.

fish and steak is a sad state of affairs, i know steak is gonna win but you know what? if i went all veg i'd miss salmon and tuna and all those whitefish before i missed a ny strip.

also, Bagels, Berries, Soup, Fish = pretty much the perfect lunch OAT. just missing cream cheese and capers.

i know steak is gonna win

Not so sure of that, fish is winning 3:2 on declared votes in the thread so far.

I think fish voters are just the out and proud type, smart money's on steak

Fish vs. Steak sucks as a food choice because there's not vegetarian option.

I ended up voting for Steak purely because I'm allergic to fish, and a steak would violate me morally, but eating a fish could actually kill me.

i think steak looks like losing, but you gotta roll with those punches.

crabs looks like demons

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Iw-T6vhSDEc/SxgHyAN-eCI/AAAAAAAAAvc/m_C9yWQJc3g/s400/genji20crab20faceqjprevzk6%5B1%5D.jpg

would sautée

how the fuck is a steak (from one fartass animal) gonna beat all the billions of tasty fish in the sea?

on my plate, that's how

Gotta agree with the previous posts, I never understood what's so special about dried bread in a funny shape.

of course, if you would look up a recipe for bagels, and, in approximately ninety seconds' worth of reading, learn exactly "what's so special" about the way bagel dough is prepared and what's unique about the way in which that dough is prepared -- but hey, why expend the effort when it's so much fun to frustrate people by sitting around saying "I don't understand" over & over?

i guess a cow would win in a fight against most fish too. trampling, and all. except for sharks. because a fight between a shark and a cow would be won solely by venue: in the water = shark. on the land = cow. in space = ?

I don't care how the dough is made, I've eaten bagels and they taste like dry bread. The proof is in the pudding.

the proof is in you live in finland

i bet bread pudding made with bagels would be great

So?

(x-post)

I mean if you had bagels and they tasted like fish - that would not mean 'bagels taste like fish' - it would just mean, again, you live in finland

The proof is in the pudding.

aw you didn't

you could have used the correct phrase and it would have been perfect

but no

I've always thought this "a specific food only tastes good in the place where it originated" thing was kinda bullshit mysticism. People can read recipes all over the world.

would sautée

People don't eat them now. A few that looked vaguely like human faces got thrown back (the spirits of dead samurai, or something), had a better survival rate etc. to force them to more and more resemble them. So it's a pretty good example of artificial selection. (voted crab, btw)

when it comes to bread, it's really not that complicated. you know why france has the best bread in the world? two reasons:

1. people dedicate their lives to it and have for generations
2. PEOPLE EAT A SHITTON OF BREAD

and really #2 is more important. people eat a shitton of bread = you can go into any bakery and come out with a fresh loaf because they've making it constantly. and fresh bread is objectively better.

same is true w/ bagels. in places where the bagel turnover is crazy high - this doesn't necessarily have to be new york - they're going to be making and selling lots of bagels = one you eat is going to have been made pretty recently. that place does not exsit in finland because there isn't massive bagel consumption afaik.

they've been*

xpost amending my previous post - that second "prepared" should have some synonym for "cooked" but "cooked" isn't the right word, nor is "baked," entirely, which is the point. however, let's be clear, though, bagels aren't really even close to the best bread. among the various breads of the world there are some very intense competitors.

Tuomas, if I said that the only person I'd ever heard speaking Finnish had said to me "No me quiero ir al infierno," and I said that on the basis of that exchange I had a pretty good grasp of Finnish, you'd say to me that that was very nice for me to think so, but that that wasn't Finnish, it was Spanish, right? If the only bagels you've had taste like "dried bread," then cool, you've never been to Montreal and had the late-night bagels that are like God's mercy in a rounded form, and you've never been to Murray's. Or had a sandwich made with a bagel, which in some arrangements provides us with a Platonic ideal of Sandwich.

Tuomas, I'm not saying you're a bad person or anything, and I'm sure your mom loves you and all, but you have no taste or discernment and you seem to keep yourself willfully obtuse so you can troll the universe.

I'm no bagel expert but I've had the ones on brick lane from here and they're pretty good but they're no falafel
http://youngandfoodish.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/beigel-bake-brick-lane.jpg

iatee with the permanent & correct dismissal of Tuomas's claim, bringin straight anthropology to the game

I didn't even realized that rhymed until I'd posted it, wtf

haha

same is true w/ bagels. in places where the bagel turnover is crazy high - this doesn't necessarily have to be new york - they're going to be making and selling lots of bagels = one you eat is going to have been made pretty recently. that place does not exsit in finland because there isn't massive bagel consumption afaik.

Well yeah, but I have eaten freshly baked bagels in various places in Central Europe (where, according to Wikipedia, bagels where invented), and they still weren't that special.

make it "into the game" for the metrical fix and you've got a hit

Tuomas, can I politely ask you to turn down the Tuomas the Lord of Attrition routine that you've been amping up on the food threads the last few days?

if you had bagels that tasted like 'dry bread' then, almost by definition, you did not have freshly baked bagels

for the purposes of these threads from now on I am going to try and just imagine everyone has eaten the ~idealised~ version of each food type and be more christian about things, even if that does mean giving americans slack on curry

americans like indian food we just don't know what 'curry' means

I want a good NYC/MTL bagel SO BAD right now.

ilxors are fairly well travelled as a bunch anyway I'd imagine so

Just read through this thread for the first time and have to weigh in on the bagels thing, and iatee and M. aerosmith are entirely correct. I live in a neighborhood in Cleveland that's largely Jewish, and there's no shortage of awesome fresh bagels. Just down the street from me is Bialy's Bagels, which I think is in its third generation of local ownership, and they are making them all the time. They take cash only, and it's 85 cents a bagel. Absolute heaven.

i guess a cow would win in a fight against most fish too. trampling, and all. except for sharks. because a fight between a shark and a cow would be won solely by venue: in the water = shark. on the land = cow. in space = ?

― Eggs, Peaches, Hot Dogs, Lamb (remy bean),

GET THEE TO A BEARSHARKTOPUS THREAD

re: bagels, tuomas, general tone that people dismissing other foods are taking-

if i'm hearing dozens of people on a fairly discerning board enthuse about a foodstuff i've tried and didn't like, a foodstuff that is eaten by the million every day- i will assume that i got a bad one.

doesn't mean i'll vote for it, but i mean cmon let's be reasonable here people

otm -- that's pretty much what informed my curry vote -- recognizing the obvious potential more than going by my own past experience

What's all this "let's be reasonable" stuff all about - this is explicitly a FIGHT thread - if every bagel you've ever eaten, including the freshly made ones you've eaten travelling in Home of Bagel, is shitty boring dry bread then I think you're entitled to take that view even if you are a Finnish troll.

I eat hot dogs, I mostly like hot dogs, I appreciate that for the average American hot dog stan what passes for a hot dog in the UK is probably a piece of shit compared to OMG best hot dog ever from x borough in NYC but if hot dogs don't make the cut I won't mourn their passing.

It's fair enough to take every food listed to be the ideal/best of its kind but if your experience has only ever been of the poor imitators then it's going to affect your view.

i didn't 'like' curry until i was 25 years old, because curry was a diarrheic substance dribbled on chips at fast food joints, or it was a microwaveable pack of the bits of a chicken that even chickens ignore when looking at other chickens.

nowadays- curry could walk this whole thing and i'd wave a banner on the finish line.

onimo ur scottish, isn't your vote button greyed out?

My vote button is deep fried in batter and covered in onion gravy.

yeah I mean people can and will vote how they want - but if they say "bagels are lame they taste like dry bread" or "burritos are gross, the london burrito store just gave me a crepe with ketchup on it" then they are gonna get called out

damn that was not coherent

new ILE board description

Bagels, crab, soup, steak

The incredibly persuasive soup arguments from the previous bracket swayed me. Crab vs. berries though, utterly soul-crushing that they be pitted against each other.

Okay, even if I haven't eaten Real American Bagels, I can't imagine any bread product, no matter how tasty, being half as good as falafel. So falafel wins by default.

I've had some pretty delicious bagels with stuff on, but none of them has made me think "whoa, this would not be anywhere near as perfect if it were any other kind of bread underneath" - mind you, since there are no other kinds of bread in the contest, maybe that's irrelevant, but

will be told "oh, you've never had the real thing - well, ok, you did have a couple while visiting the US, but you hadn't spent 25 years researching the best bagel joint within 300 miles first, so", while to do the same the other way across the Atlantic is just fine because those damn Euros can't cook until they emigrate

(not really cranky but it has been a hectic day at work so i may as well go and rant about food on the internets)

I can't imagine any bread product, no matter how tasty, being half as good as falafel.

man, i've been president of tuomastan in my time on this board, but you're dead to me- DEAD YOU HEAR

pretty much the only food i miss from the four years i spent on the East Coast is bagels - we have them in CA, but they are just not as amazing.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Bagels 59 > Falafel 52
Berries 73 > Crab 38
Soup 73 > Kebabs 38
Steak 56 > Fish 55

Three right answers here, but crab deserved better.

Fuck you, steak.

Most of my votes in round 2 went down in defeat, and ALL of the ones I cared most about. Humbuggery!

I'm gonna celebrate and have some soup, followed by berries adorning a festive dish of ICE CREAM

steak beat fish? you fuckin savages i'm not voting in these anymore.

otmfm, and i'm as carnivore as the next guy. stupid slab of meat vs all the diverse richness of our oceans (until we've raped them into extinction).

No fish, no sushi, no crab. These are a pretty poor set of results.

voted against steak due to grief over voting down lamb and basically every other available red meat option. and a sense of having done my part by voting for sushi, shrimp, etc. but i was wrong and am now panged. this mostly as a result of heavy thinking on the subject of salmon that has gone down over the last few days. not just salmon, but salmon's as good a place to start as any. might take salmon over beef even if not other fish were involved in this contest. i.e., was so very very rong here. not that it matters. and steak is awesome earth killing obesity feeding murder crime food. so fuck it.

Fuck you, steak.

― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 2 August 2010 00:43 (11 hours ago)

had some amazing-smelling (and tasting) salmon last night. I only eat steak as carne asada in tacos - but i understand a lot of people are quite fond of it.

The best steak I have eaten is better than the best fish but that is still the travesty of the round - I wonder if fish actually suffered from being too wide a category, so that people averaged it in their head with nasty kinds of "cod" etc - I imagine steak would have beaten 'meat' for instance?

i like how butthurt everybody's getting about bagels. i mean, i'm as american colombian as the next guy, and i've had some super-amazing bagels, but i could really do without them.