Oscars 2011 Long-range anticipation thread

don't want to get sucked into the bullshit this early, but i guess it's happened and there's no stopping it

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/09/oscar_futures_the_social_netwo.html
http://www.deadline.com/2010/09/big-fall-fest-whos-up-or-down-for-oscar/

like a presidential election, this anticipation shit gets earlier and earlier.

JLG not there, I'm not there

but The King's Speech vs The Social Network will be lol

just curious, given the Social Network jizzwagon -- has any film won Best Picture where the entire principal cast was under age 30?

(I can guess who will answer first)

Slumdog Millionaire?

what about Oscar winners whose script was written at an under-thirty level?

idk what that means

I guess Slumdog Millionaire qualifies, tho on the sixth-grade script level too

ok I just read about The King's Speech and have to say ARE U KIDDING ME?

all the characters with characters in titanic were kids, weren't they? apart from the framing device i guess.

king's speech trailer looks like shakespeare-in-love era miramax shit

I would consider Gloria Stuart, David Warner and Kathy Bates part of the Titanic principals.

I am aghast that J Timberlake is still just 29 when it seems like he's been plaguing us for a quarter-century.

I'd have thought you preferred his acting chops.

in your eyes he acts like a singer.

he wasn't terrible in that Richard Kelly movie even tho the part didn't make much sense.

Year-round coverage here:
http://www.awardsdaily.com/

foreign film submissions:

http://www.indiewire.com/article/updated_list_of_foreign_language_academy_submissions

I Am NOT Love(d), amirite?

Also, was Tuesday, After Christmas not eligible for Romania for some reason? That Whistle film is meant to be pretty poor, I thought.

fuck yeah Dogtooth. Never getting a nod, though, of course. By the end of next week I think I'll have seen five of these.

I liked Incendies more than I was expecting to.

let the forecast bullshit begin!

http://www.goldderby.com/predictions.html

Not seen most of those, but I'm going to go ahead and say it's another grim year.

Excited about seeing Winter's Bone at some point though.

So Annette Bening's gonna get the lion's share of the The Kids Are All Right promotion?

she's the only one I've seen promoted

I think Frownland will win best picture retrospectively. How ELSE can justice be done? Right, Morbz???????

bluh, worst film of 2009

Is it now CW that Eisenberg will be nominated? Usually somebody w/ his low commercial profile and relative youth has to be a conventionally pretty woman or get abused throughout the role (ie, Gabourey Sibide) to make the cut.

Matt Damon (relative youth) was nominated in '97, and Jeremy Renner (low commercial profile) last year.

they had flashier roles though

in the BA category in recent years: Keira Knightley, Carey Mulligan.

On another note: I read in the NYT a couple of weeks ago that the studio's trying to pull a Michael Douglas SA nod before he croaks.

all those ppl had legit movie star potential (and again, women in their 20s are a whole diff deal -- I wonder why); not sure Hollywood believes that about J.E.

I dunno -- I see Eisenberg turning into, at worst, a Brad Dourif or Chris Walken type who always gets supporting work.

I don't think he'll be quite as character-actory, but yeah, supporting roles in bigger pictures, lead in indies.

btw anyone seen Inside Job? Gonna do so this afternoo.

uh FROWNLAND is in my top three of the decade!

also it was 2007/2008 :)

actually idk if it's top three but prob top ten! :)

Seems to me there's already a thread for this, jerks.

i'm into separating Oscars and detrius.

The Governors Awards shindig:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/15/movies/15oscar.html

Film 2010 was hyping Toy Story 3 to get best picture, which seems obvious when you think about it.

no.

NYT w/ none of the important news as usual -- like who presented JLG's award or who pretended to accept, if such a charade took place.

lol at claudia winkelman/film 2010

hmmm http://www.deadline.com/2010/11/oscar-disneys-rich-ross-says-were-going-for-the-best-picture-win-for-toy-story-3/

I'm all for that ad campaign.

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences on Thursday announced its list of the 15 films that are still in the running for this year's feature documentary Oscar.

The most visible documentaries of the year — Charles Ferguson's "Inside Job" (about the financial system meltdown) and Davis Guggenheim's "Waiting for 'Superman' " (about the U.S. education system) — both made the cut after being left off the International Documentary Awards list of nominees.

Other veteran documentary filmmakers were recognized too: Alex Gibney's "Client 9: The Rise and Fall of Eliot Spitzer" is on the list, as is "Waste Land" by Lucy Walker.

The other 11: "Exit Through the Gift Shop," "Gasland," "Genius Within: The Inner Life of Glenn Gould," "The Lottery," "The Tillman Story," "Precious Life," "Quest for Honor," "Restrepo," "This Way of Life," "Enemies of the People" and "William Kunstler: Disturbing the Universe."

The documentary branch members will now select the five nominees, which will be announced in January. The Oscars will be handed out Feb. 27.

—Nicole Sperling, LA Times

Notable omissions:

Oceans
Babies
Catfish
Joan Rivers: A Piece of Work

(Notable in that all grossed more than $3 million domestically.)

I'm amazed that that many ppl can look at closeups of Joan Rivers

Not surprised Catfish didn't make the cut. Sort of shocked Gift Shop did, tho.

Banksy obv has good PR ppl

disappointed at no Marwencol, but the Gift Shop nod is good news.

xp ha speaking of which http://www.indiewire.com/article/hyping_the_gift_shop_experts_talk_marketing_and_distribution_of_banksy_doc/

Wait, Last Train Home got snubbed? And A Film Unfinished? Craziness!

Also, lol that Glenn Gould snorefest made the cut.

Go Jacki Weaver!!

More than ever:

Toy Story 3

Best picture
Best animated feature

"Restrepo" was terrific.

I didn't see "Toy Story 3" and probably wouldn't even like it, but I'd still like to see it win Best Picture on general principle (the general principle being that I'm sure it's way better than the stuff that typically actually wins.)

that might be the ultimate film snob comment.

in a good way, obv

uh NO.

The precedent would be The Return of the King: giving Film 3 of a shitload-moneymaker series an "artistic" prize that says thanks for all the moolah. Not the kind of things "film snobs" say. Film snobs don't give a fucking shit about who wins Oscars.

I know you ppl think all Pixar films come from Mt Sinai, but eh computer animation.

I think "I don't want to see x but it's probably better than everything else the plebs want to celebrate" is pretty snobbish. No offense, Eephus.

I also don't think ROTK is the right precedent here.

also Morbs is the critic that wouldn't even bother to try the Ratatouille so.

yeah sure, that's why one of my major regrets of the last month is that i haven't had time to see Jackass 3D.

Industry articles have said the studio push for a TS3 win is 'zackly based on the ROTK "it's for the series" rationale, Guk.

There is no precedent for Toy Story 3 winning best picture. That's why I'd like to see it win.

Ah, if you meant industry push for the award than yeah, ROTK is the go-to strategy. xpost

I think the Academy opened the BP nominations to ten partly so they could regularly nominate animated films for the top prize w/out having them win.

Actors are not going to vote for it.

Having the animated feature category will always stack the decks against one winning Best Picture. Are they doing 10 again this year? I'm sure they'll want Inception animated. Is Winter's Bone in with a shot as a token indie feature?

I'd prefer Inception animated, but instead it'll be nominated.

WB has a shot.

nominated, not animated. though I'm sure they'd like to see that too. xpost lol

Has anyone seen The King's Speech? It looks like a parody of 'worthy' award-baiting British (English) drama.

oh, this guy:

http://www.thefilmexperience.net/Awards/2010/tally.html

has True Grit even been screened for critics? or is that based solely on pedigree/buzz?

not sure

It'll be a feat if a doc gets a BP nod in that 10-deep slate.

Michael Moore could've w/ F9/11, I think

gawd I honestly thought BP = British Petroleum here and was like 'wha???' Need sleep obv.

I have seen practically NONE of these, but my wife is in the Producer's Guild and the For Your Consideration screeners have started rolling in. Can't say I'm excited about any of them, but I guess we'll watch The Social Network and Winter's Bone on Thanksgiving. What is "Get Low"?

Robt Duvall/Bill Murray Southern folk comedy? haven't seen yet

Huh, sounds like it could go either way.

We also have

Alice In Wonderland (probably not going to bother with)
Despicable Me (what is this even about?)
Toy Story 3 (seen)
How To Train Your Dragon (huh?)

I have a slew but am most excited about the ones I don't have to do RSVP screenings for now. tho I wd like to see S.Coppola on the big screen since Harris Savides shot it.

Yeah we get invited to screenings too but we never go, we're far too busy and important.

I've heard How To Train Your Dragon is really good xxpost

Haven't gotten much in the way of screeners yet, beyond the Focus batch. :(

Minor league crux awards = victim of the economy?

Crix

It's mys first year of screeners! Only got the Focus and Overture ones so far.

so stoked I can't fucking type.

I've heard How To Train Your Dragon is really good xxpost

― Gukbe, Sunday, November 21, 2010 1:41 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

i heard this too

xpost I remember the feeling. Vaguely.

so j-franks and anne hathaway are presenting

guess they aren't getting nominated or

Hathaway is probably not. Franco almost certainly is. When was the last time a nominee hosted?

Walter Matthau at the 1975 Oscars?

(Nominated for The Sunshine Boys; lost to Nicholson in Cuckoo's Nest. Cohosted with Goldie Hawn, Gene Kelly, George Segal, and Robert Shaw.)

I guess Paul Hogan was also host the year his screenplay for Crocodile Dundee was (inexplicably) nominated.

Jeffrey Wells weighs in!

Excuse me and due respect, but this is close to ridiculous. These guys would be great for hosting the MTV Awards, maybe, but they're not skilled or funny or pizazzy enough to handle the Oscars. What are the producers thinking? Ratings, I know, but every good Oscar host needs a little Lenny Bruce running through his/her veins, and Franco and Hathaway, trust me, do not have that quality -- it's not in them.

Franco and Hathaway are cool and gifted and sensitive, certainly, but they don't have that command-of-the-spotlight, look-at-me and then fucking-listen-to-me quality. This is the worst Oscar hosting idea since...when?

This is the worst Oscar hosting idea since...when?

2009: hugh jackman

Franco is sensitive?

Justin Timberlake was on Access Hollywood Live today (it was just on, ok) and for a second I could've sworn Billy Bush was interviewing Moby.

I had just woken up and couldn't see, but still.

So it's official: Franco and Hathaway

I'm fine with this if we're getting James "I thought the scene would go better if I lit up beforehand" Franco and not James "See, kids, what I'm doing is a little thing called Performance Art" Franco.

Jeffrey Wells is a horrible person, but in this case, he's right.

Timberlake is a better host type than Franco – he seems to like industry twaddle.

Jackman did a funny opening number

really Cunga, a stoner Oscars? so they seem even longer?

I was kinda shocked to learn that one of the younger Oscar co-hosts was Mort Sahl.

Might as well have been Morley Safer.

pshaw, Sahl was termed a "sick comedian" at the time he MC'd (1959)

I'm guessing he didn't do his joke that Marilyn Monroe converted to Judaism when she married Arthur Miller... so he could eat her.

my bad, that was an Oscar Levant joke

Christian Bale a shoo-in for Best Supporting Actor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71l-kIhJ5j8

Skeletor (Christian Bale)

yeah, he is

it's borderline co-lead

not sure if I mentioned he reminded me of Art Carney in The Honeymooners

He's kinda awful

In other words, a lock.

close

So with all this lip service to how SUPER-WIDE OPEN all the acting categories are this year, maybe now's a good time to put that theory to the test. Here's what I gather are the soft frontrunners pre-crix awards. I'm laying odds at least 15 of these emerge on nomination day.

Firth
Franco
Bridges
Duvall
Eisenberg

Bening
Portman
Lawrence
Kidman
Williams

Rush
Bale
Ruffalo
Garfield
Harris

Carter
Manville
Leo
Adams
Hershey

Hedging bets that crix/Globes will make Manville have to slum in supporting.

So is Manville basically dead in the water at this point?

Effectively yeah.

Still feeling 16 of those 20 from a few weeks back.

Firth
Franco
Bridges
Duvall Gosling
Eisenberg

Bening
Portman
Lawrence
Kidman
Williams

Rush
Bale
Ruffalo
Garfield
Harris Hawkes

Carter
Manville Lead girl in True Grit
Leo
Adams
Hershey Kunis

You guys that sure about Kidman/

I don't think Jacki Weaver is out of it just yet.

You guys that sure about Kidman/

Eric's predix for lead actress actually looks the safest of all four of those categories.

Kidman's looking pretty locked now, yeah. Berry's probably too little too late and Swank is just not going to happen.

But Swank v. Bening 3!

If that actually happens, I vow to never start another detrius thread ever again. You have my word.

But Swank v. Bening 3!

ha -- yeah. I noted this on the other thread. But it ain't gonna happen.

If it happens, it means that the Oscar blogger brigade actually ARE running shit, and I will be forced to retire my game for moral reasons.

I run a clean game.

hey, Wild Grass is eligible!

http://www.awardsdaily.com/2010/12/248-feature-films-eligible-for-best-picture/

I am smelling the possibility of a True Grit/Fincher split, just sayin'

a true split

I linked to this in the detrius thread

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/05/movies/awardsseason/05oscar.html?hp

TG just doesn't have a lot of competition right now

moving from the once-inevitable TSN to TG bcz of a bit more $$$ in the till: Oscar in a nutshell

but surely NCFOM having won a few years ago will hurt True Grit's chances.

perhaps

nahhh TSN has still got it in the bag.

suspect you're right, but let me live in hope.

Would be fun to bet on which major film is going to end up shut out this year, which one will be 6-ish nominations, no wins.

It's the lesser evil in the long run, Doc: if Fincher's movie loses out this year, they'll have to give it to one of his Millenium flicks.

k, I don't know what those are; the Tattooed Girl series?

the same.

well that wdnt make me upset, as I'm not seeing those.

Good interview with Scott Rudin on producing both The Social Network and True Grit.

Nathaniel at Film Experience posted newly updated Oscar nom predictions.

Dave Karger sez that True Grit's box office success is forcing Academy voters to remember that Steinfeld is actually a lead actress.

I always figured that the TG "supporting actor" ruse was a ploy to sidestep the Portman juggernaut.

People get their tits in an uproar about this much more than when Timothy Hutton won "supporting" for Ordinary People. (or when Pacino was mominated below Brando for The Godfather)

Well, those are guys, who are superior to women anyway.

wait morbs do you really think true grit is better than the social network?

for sure. (and I don't love True Grit)

no Uncle Boonmee, but Dogtooth (wouldnt win in a million years):

FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM SHORTLIST

Hors la Loi (Outside the Law) - Algeria
Incendies - Canada
In a Better World - Denmark
Dogtooth - Greece
Confessions - Japan
Biutiful - Mexico
Life, Above All - South Africa
Tambien la Lluvia (Even the Rain) - Spain
Simple Simon - Sweden

fuck yes INCENDIES!

not seeing Biutiful under any circumstances.

xp I've heard that the chances for Incendies to get the nomination are very good.

well, only 4 are being dropped from the 9.

Yes, but that it will almost certainly be one of the ones that remains.

I'd be surprised if Dogtooth and Confessions both stayed.

Does anyone know the deal with the Weinstein Co.'s marketing of The Company Men?

At the theater last weekend, I saw the trailer, which began "This fall..." I'd never heard of the movie before, so I assumed it meant fall 2011 (even though that seemed pretty far in advance). As I watched, I thought: Oh man, this is totally going to get a ton of Oscar buzz. Three Oscar winners in the cast, a movie that seems to be about The Way We Live Now and that addresses unemployment in a much fuller and probably less pandering way than Up in the Air did, etc.

Now I see that this had a late-2010 release in N.Y. and L.A.

What's the thinking there? There's no chance it's going to get nominated in any Oscar category -- shit's been sewn up for weeks. If you're Harvey Weinstein, why wouldn't you notice that the field is already crowded and wait a couple months so that it can be the first major contender from 2011?

Part of what I don't get is that Blue Valentine (also a Weinstein film) was in a similar position w/r/t its release date, but somehow the studio was able to drum up advance buzz and keep it afloat, even though in a lot of ways it's a less Oscar-friendly film.

I first saw the trailer for it at The American back in September. I think there were either tweaks that had to be made or it just wasn't very good and they decided not to throw all the Oscar campaign money at it they originally intended to. Then they just dumped in January. I didn't know it got 2010 NY/LA release runs though.

(ha xpost)
Maybe The Company Men is -- despite an A from Entertainment Weekly and **** from the Chicago Reader -- not actually that good, I dunno. But then why even go through the charade of the limited release?

I guess this explains it:

"Don’t expect to see much of an Oscar push for The Company Men since Harvey would rather put all his eggs in ‘The King’s Speech’ basket, and they don’t have the Oscar campaigning money they once had.”
http://indiegeniusprod.com/BestMoviesEver/company-men-gets-pulled-by-weinsteins/

There's no chance it's going to get nominated in any Oscar category

The hopes were that it would. It got its 1-week release, and deservedly got panned. But it was always going wide in January whether there was acclaim or nominations, or so they said. It might've been in Affleck's and John Wells' contracts that it wd get a limited FYI release.

It really sucks.

xp I mean, that explains why it's not being marketed more aggressively.

It got its 1-week release, and deservedly got panned

Really? Metacritic score is 73, with glowing reviews from Gleiberman, Denby, Zacharek, Holden (and I just read J.R. Jones's rave last night). No one's review is scored lower than a 50.

73 is obv. not awesome, but The Fighter and Black Swan are both at 79.

Huh: the woman who plays Affleck's secretary in this movie directed me in a college production of Midsummer Night's Dream 14 years ago.

3 stars from Ebert.

The trailers look dreadful.

OK, now tell me what the deal is with The Way Back.

The Way Back looks awesome. theres your frekaing deal!!!

dude, the critics logged on RT are 50% studio hoes to begin with.

the other 50% are tricks

obviously unsuitable for bringing up in an oscars thread then

honestly dunno why ppl care abt the oscars like this. i mean i'll watch and discuss the actual awards but

I dunno, I like it for the same reason I like electoral politics.

I guess the only 3 reviews of The Company Men I read were the pans by Andr3w Schenk3r, me, and Armond. The positive ones are more like "well, they tried to make a movie about the recession, that's nice" instead of raves.

Love that The Fighter got a nomination from the Costume Designers Guild for excellence in period film.

Denby's rave was my first clue that The Company Men looked sinister.

The second: critics praising Affleck's "maturity."

Ryan Gosling is terrible in Blue Valentine

Nah, just his hair.

actually hes pretty good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_05qJTeNNI

btw, Ed and that guy who used to post here started handicapping the nominations:

http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/category/awards/

was Andrew Garfield in Never Let Me Go? Eric thinks so.

uh, yes?

Ed going out on a limb predicting Hailee Steinfeld will be in Best Actress (geez, like the girl from Whale Rider was).

sorry – I meant to say, "was he any good?"

Ryan Gosling is terrible in Blue Valentine

I thought both were good, but Williams was better; Gosling is a little mannered.

gosling is a good actor but his dickhead persona bugs me

has he a persona? Never noticed.

is that sarcasm?

Ed going out on a limb predicting Hailee Steinfeld will be in Best Actress (geez, like the girl from Whale Rider was).

I'd actually be more surprised about Kidman getting snubbed (as he predicts) than Steinfeld getting nominated.

(Oh it looks like it's Eric that's predicting that.)

is that sarcasm?

the only recent interview of his I've read was in Esquire? Seemed like any other intense young actor who Cares About His Craft.

Dave Karger's latest predictions.

Oh I don't mean irl, I'm sure he's a perfectly nice guy, it just seems like he's always playing smarmy jerkoffs. Ed Norton and Kevin Spacey played too many of them and now you can't drag me to their movies.

or, i guess the thing about Intense Young Men is that when they're intense in the 'wrong' way it can drive you crazy

Which is why I understand the poor reviews he's gotten for BV in some quarters; he's one of those actors who still believes in the Method.

I don't quite understand how Jennifer Lawrence is going to stick in Best Actress if her film is thought to be likely shut out except for adapted screenplay.

great opening sentence by Eric today:

http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/2011/01/oscar-2011-nomination-predictions-directing/

calling bullshit on the Fincher comment.

yeah sounds to me like self-deprecation in the face of mega-hype. at the same time, my guess is that if you put together two big names/egos like sorkin and fincher it isn't going to be all tea and scones. so fincher has kind of said zuckerberg isn't a genius, while sorkin has said he is, etc, etc. so fincher calling it a big glib is part of that maybe -- and he's right, in a way.

but i don't think either director has hidden themselves -- 'the fighter' is more characteristically david o russell-y than 'three kings', even if it was an assignment. basically he hates his mother, is the theme of all his films except 'three kings' (i can't remember if he does in 'flirting with disaster', but you get the idea).

Fincher also much better now than he was at the time of Fight Club, so I don't know when growing as an artist became the same thing as sublimating yourself. Also one of the great things about TSN is the way the script (while open to interpretation) does see it all one way while Fincher seems to see it another way.

obv i disagree, prefer '90s Fincher

Fair enough but do you think he's given up whatever artistic integrity he might have had to win awards? I can see the argument with Benjamin Button (though I'd disagree), but are Zodiac and The Social Network really awards-bait?

I don't quite understand how Jennifer Lawrence is going to stick in Best Actress if her film is thought to be likely shut out except for adapted screenplay.

I still think it has a shot at a Best Pic nod and best supporting actor for John Hawkes.

Not that that necessarily matters. Kidman will probably get nominated without any other nominations for Rabbit Hole (though I guess that's slightly different because she's Nicole Kidman).

I'm just not sure who would replace her -- esp. if you're suggesting it's someone in a movie that gets more nominations.

I'm assuming Portman and Bening are locks, Lawrence and Kidman are very likely, and then the fifth spot will go to either Michelle Williams, Hailee Steinfeld, or Lesley Manville.

For the sake of argument, though. let's assume that the Steinfeld is in the "very likely" camp (as many are starting to predict) and Lawrence is on the bubble. Blue Valentine isn't getting any other nominations (Best Actor field is too crowded at this point for Gosling); Another Year might get original screenplay, but that's it.

at this point I'm just hoping for a show fitting for Hollywood's worst year ever. ie, need a Cher song nomination.

"are Zodiac and The Social Network really awards-bait?"

I don't give a damn, they're just not as good as Se7en and Fight Club.

The last decade produced Benjamin Button, but I'll take Fincher over Fincher a decade ago. I've tried and failed twice to finish Fight Club and can't even look at Brad Pitt in Se7en.

*I'll take Fincher NOW rather

i think staging and propelling a script as dense as TSN's without getting lost or snarled, while letting as many actors work as entertainingly as fincher does, is pretty much the most you can hope for out of a movie director

at this point I'm just hoping for a show fitting for Hollywood's worst year ever. ie, need a Cher song nomination.

Hyperbole had its greatest year ever though.

king's speech was OK

final Film Experience predix:

http://thefilmexperience.net/prediction-index/

find it hard to believe that either Kunis/Hershey, or Social Network score, won't make it.

Has Bardem "surged" in recent days?

no idea, app he's thought to be a finalist for the "fifth spot" w/ Duvall & Gosling

Has Bardem "surged" in recent days?

I think so. Biutiful opens this week (after the brief qualifying run). The trailer touts Bardem's Oscar potential. Julia Roberts also lavishly praised his performance a couple weeks ago and specifically mentioned that she hopes he gets nominated.

It's not a bad "surprise" prediction to make -- I would guess people feel more passionate about Bardem's perf than they do about Duvall's.

I hope JR's giant mouth delivers the kiss of death

Did you see the film, Morbs?

Innaritu? no, I've suffered enough.

and Bardem has an Oscar! who is he, Shelley Winters?

Yeah, Iñnaritu is one of the few directors about whom I'll totally generalize without watching another film again.

Franco: I will be at school. I will be at Yale. Fox Searchlight asked me if I would go to New York to be ready ... in case that I was nominated. I said, 'No (laughs). I'm not gonna miss class to go and presume that I'm going to be nominated, but if you want to bring out a camera crew to Yale and wait and see if I get nominated, I'd be happy to step out of class and say I'm very grateful (laughs).'

The "pre-show" is insufferable.

John Hawkes!

Michelle Williams! Javier Bardem!

127 Hours made the lineup.

And The Town did not.

V. happy about Williams.

Steinfeld staying in supporting at least makes that category interesting.

Also, Dogtooth!!

I'd be more stoked about Dogtooth making it if Bardem's nod didn't make it obvious that fucking Biutiful is gonna win. Happy for Incendies, Williams, Hawkes, Ruffalo.

Biutiful would've won w/ or w/o Bardem.

I mean, probably. But actually, that category does not always reward the film that receives nominations elsewhere: e.g., No Man's Land won over Amelie in 2001; The Lives of Others won over Pan's Labyrinth in 2006. (Even last year, The White Ribbon was nominated for cinematography but lost.)

Dogtooth would never win as long as anything else in the category featured disease, poverty or children (preferably all three, as Biutiful apparently does).

Also glad the director's branch recognizes that C Nolan's "work" is an insult to their profession.

also glad Giraffe-Neck Drip didn't make the supp actor list

however, eff no Cher song

The question now is predicting Banksy's Oscar acceptance 'speech'.

I pray that's not gonna happen, or that Monique drops a TV on him.

I never thought I would be rooting for Trent Reznor to win anything, but I really liked the score to The Social Network.

Kind of lol but mostly sad: I know all of the words to "We Belong Together" because I've probably endured 3037 viewings of Toy Story 3.

Come to think of it I may very well know all of the dialog to Toy Story 3.

including the "spend the night in the box" speech from Cool Hand Luke?

man, this thread is really in neytral w/ no Eric.

Carpetbagger on foreign film:

“In A Better World” has to be seen, at least initially, as the favorite. Susanne Bier’s film won the prize for best foreign-language film at the Golden Globes earlier this month, and it addresses a pair of social issues in the thoughtful, if schematic, way that often appeals to Academy voters: alternating between an African refugee camp and a middle school in rural Denmark, it examines relations between the West and Islam on one plane and the conflict between violence and reason on another. Plus, Ms. Bier is a known and liked figure in Hollywood: she is on a jury at the Sundance Film Festival right now, and one of her earlier films, “After the Wedding,” was also nominated for an Oscar.

Yeah, I knew Lotso. He was a good toy. A friend. We had the same owner, Daisy. I was there when Lotso got unwrapped. Daisy loved us all. But Lotso... Lotso was special. They did everything together. Never seen a kid and toy more in love. One day we took a drive, hit a rest stop, had a little playtime. After lunch, Daisy fell asleep. She never came back. So we waited. Lotso wouldn't give up. It took forever, but we finally made it back to Daisy's. But by then, it was too late. Something changed inside Lotso that day. Something snapped.

--some of the best writing of the year.

i'm mostly surprised at how many of these movies i've actually seen this year (as of now, 7/10 best picture noms)

It was a higher box-office field than usual.

man, this thread is really in neytral w/ no Eric.

I'm busy updating stuff at work w/Oscar info.

Plus, Ms. Bier is a known and liked figure in Hollywood: she is on a jury at the Sundance Film Festival right now, and one of her earlier films, “After the Wedding,” was also nominated for an Oscar.

She's also worked in English, directing H. Berry and B. del Toro in Things We Lost in the Fire (2007).

has anyone seen Rabbit Hole?

Seeing it on the 2nd of February. You can find screener rips online if you're especially desperate.

Dianne West, who steals every Allen film she's in, has a top supporting role! Kind of can't wait..

heh, Waiting For Superman snubbed

i saw it, Alf, posted abt it in the detrius thread - kind of a standard domestic drama w/some good acting, chick who plays the sister is really good

there's a couple mild twists that i didnt know about b4hand, which i think was good

The Way Back totally deserves its makeup nom, amazing work in that movie

I saw Rabbit Hole; better than about half the BP nominees. Middlebrow grief 'play of quality' tho (Cynthia Nixon played Nic's role off-Broadway).

I'm probably the only one who noticed that all of the movies nominated for original screenplay are from the first half of the alphabet, while all of the ones nominated for adapted screenplay are from the last half. Wonder if that's ever happened before.

haha

what about the B-F range in Best Actor nominees? the narrowest ever?

oh jaymc, never change

what about the B-F range in Best Actor nominees? the narrowest ever?

It ties 1962 (Lancaster, Lemmon, Mastroianni, O'Toole, Peck) but falls short of 1983 (Caine, Conti, Courtenay, Duvall, Finney) and 2004 (Cheadle, Depp, DiCaprio, Eastwood, Foxx).

I deserved that.

Kind of curious to know how you guys would vote in this (too many of these I haven't seen).

I've seen every nominated film except Rabbit Hole and Goar-geous or whatever that Bardem movie is called. I'd probably vote for Bening, Adams, Renner, and Eisenberg.

Pree-ty

Larvae-ly

Treac-ly

I'd vote for Winter's Bone by default (True Grit #2, TS3 #3 and screw the rest).

Franco talkin' shit!

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2011/01/thats_it_for_fr.php

He's right of course, but Danny Boyle in awards mode is no improvement.

lol i thought b-f range was some morbsian abbrev i didn't get

Happy Michelle Williams got nominated, since every girl I've ever had a crush on is 50% Jen Lindley, but I didn't think her performance was special - it was basically the same thing she did in Brokeback and Wendy & Lucy and several other movies.

(Cynthia Nixon played Nic's role off-Broadway).
--and John Slattery played the husband.

Actually really surprised that Inception didn't get a Best Editing nomination. Editing was the action hero of that film.

i've seen a few people say that. trying to get past the fact that i thought it was a shitty film, wasn't the editing totally straightforward? feel like people are confusing structure in the script with editing?

Usually Nolan relies on editing to make his movies incoherent; here, his nominated script did that job.

I can understand thinking that the script was illogical or trite, but it was definitely coherent.

but I didn't think her performance was special - it was basically the same thing she did in Brokeback and Wendy & Lucy and several other movies.

Don't really remember her perf from Brokeback.

She was v. good in Wendy & Lucy, but I think Blue Valentine better demonstrated her range.

it was obscure and one of those dull sudoku stories he thinks are drama, but i don't think it was incoherent.

none of that has anything to do with editing though.

xp -- i didn't like inception but i think that tugging feeling it managed to exert on you even amidst all the complexity is its best feature and yeah i think that was mostly the script.

i only saw like a dozen movies this year but the one where i was really impressed by the editing, as a way of sustaining sense in a really complicated structure that didn't feel like it had been locked in by the script, was the social network. combined with certain decisions about staging (simple things like putting zuckerberg on the side of the table by the window in one deposition and the opposite side in another, so that we sense just from the way the two-shots work which deposition we're in) i thought it made the movie really smooth.

With Inception, I was thinking of the three-level/three-speed sequence.

no nom for Andrew Garfield?! this is the most surprising non-nom since Jim Carrey for Truman Show. he was the best thing about the film imo.
still he's SpiderMan so fuck em.

James Franco: “I got to hear your whole interview with Colin Firth. You’re going to be polishing his statue, eh Meredith? I guess we know who you’re rooting for.”

Meredith Vieira: “I will polish yours as well.”

get in line, Vieira

i think that tugging feeling it managed to exert on you even amidst all the complexity is its best feature and yeah i think that was mostly the script.

Tugging out of the theater.

Garfield gave the most boring of the four main performances. Armie Hammer was much better.

Franco seems like such a raging douchebag.

no nom for Andrew Garfield?! this is the most surprising non-nom since Jim Carrey for Truman Show

Hmmm. I don't think it's any more surprising than snubs of, say, Jack Nicholson for The Departed or Angelina Jolie for A Mighty Heart. Bale and Rush were the only ones in that category that felt like locks to me.

he's a d-bag for noticing that TSN is (except for the regatta scene) a very artily shot, collegiate episode of The West Wing?

xp

Hey, you're the one who claimed screen comedy stopped in the 1930's -- here's a movie for you, old man.

it was obscure and one of those dull sudoku stories he thinks are drama, but i don't think it was incoherent.

none of that has anything to do with editing though.

― caek, Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:12 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark

the editing in the bit when they're all in different levels simultaneously was tyte

obviously it's in the script to an extent

a very artily shot, collegiate episode of The West Wing

would pay to see, but 'the west wing' was pretty artily shot already and also it's not like a tv show doofus because it has to create all its characters and tell their stories in one go. you may as well say any dialogue-heavy movie is 'like a tv show', from 'the front page' (an artily shot 'lou grant') onwards.

I'm sure there'll be TSN-Zuckerberg sequels, with this one being titled Episode I: People Sue Over Programming

I haven't seen the Social Network, so no, I'm just basing my douche assumption on interviews with him, and that godawful short story Esquire published

Moneyball may be the TSN sequel.

'the west wing' was pretty artily shot already

artily shot does not register when camera is pointed at Rob Lowe.

wait are we suggesting that the regatta scene is the exception in an artily shot eyeroll movie? because it's the only part in the whole movie that contains any shots that make you think about their "artistry", which of course is not a good thing; i defy anybody to get through that scene (complete w/ w. carlos imitation) without their brain just screaming LOL KUBRICK. plus the scene immediately following it is the worst thing in the entire movie. "I SAY OLD BOY, MY DAUGHTER'S SIMPLY MAD ABOUT THIS NEWFANGLED FACEBOOK CONTRAPTION! DO YOU HAVE THIS ACROSS THE POND?"

I like how Fincher got all "lol u amateurs that wasn't tilt-zoom" about the regatta scene.

haha yeah so did i actually.

difflisthr, I assume that means you hate the whole of Tarantino.

Strong field this year; I've seen eight of the best picture noms and liked them all to varying degrees. Best would be either True Grit or Winter's Bone probably.

Mila Kunis totally should have got a supporting nom for Black Swan - amazing performance imo but nobody really seems to mention it even if they liked the film.

if I ever wanted to cast a young woman expert at cunnilingus, I'd cast Kunis.

amazing performance imo but nobody really seems to mention it

She did get a few high-profile nominations, e.g. Golden Globe and SAG Award.

ah cool, i didn't realise. her performance plays a pretty crucial role in making the film work, imo.

She's the only actor I could stand, but any attractive young actress who was game could have played it.

After watching Animal Kingdom last night, I'm not entirely sure what's so great about Jacki Weaver's performance. It's an interesting character, to be sure, but I feel like she didn't even have all that much to do until the final 20 minutes.

I agree with you. I'm just bored of these heist movies; I've seen that Euripidean mom before.

http://www.ifc.com/news/2011/01/harvey-weinstein-considers-pg-.php

I enjoyed the movie. But the biggest difference between an R and a PG-13 is that kids can go see it on their own. And I have a hard time imagining any kid that isn't a mega-nerdlinger wanting to see "The King's Speech." "Dude, forget 'The Mechanic' this weekend! The guy from 'Bridget Jones' drops the F-bomb!

many of you probly know about the Ebert/Mubi contest:

http://mubi.com/notebook/posts/2817

I think he's way off base on a couple of those.

Ebert: "Conventional wisdom says The King's Speech or The Social Network. They both got 12 nominations."

Except The Social Network got 8.

difflisthr, I assume that means you hate the whole of Tarantino.

haha, not a fan at all but unsure what the connection is. there's that watch-this-guys shot in jackie brown where the camera cranes up to watch SLJ's car go around the corner, but i don't mind that shot. the only reason i dislike tarantino is that i'm a squeamish moralist.

alf otm re: garf, he was pretty much a nothing in TSN i thought

Tom Hooper won the DGA award. His inclusion in the noms was the only reason I just knew that the Nolan snub was because the academy realised that Inception wasn't a particularly well directed film on a number of levels.

I really shouldn't care about the Oscars, and I don't really, but if The King's Speech wins Best Picture I'm going to be really annoyed.

TKS is pretty good, but nowhere near as good as inception. I wouldn't be annoyed at TKS winning, it's like being annoyed that it gets cold in winter, you know it's coming.

I haven't seen 127 Hours, but TKS is running neck and neck with The Fighter for worst picture in that nominations list.

the academy realised that Inception wasn't a particularly well directed film on a number of levels.

Guys, the Academy didn't understand the plot of Inception. I didn't. My smartest middle-aged friend didn't. It's a stupid, pretentious, contrived piece of shit.

(let's say the directors' branch didn't understand it. the writers' branch pretended to.)

i don't hate tks but it has an annoying "gimme an oscar" recipe to it -- british royalty, ww2, a pinch of not-full-retard.

lol Jeffrey Wells:

Devotees of eternal cinematic Movie Godz justice are tonight contemplating the drinking of hemlock, the inhaling of lethal gas and leaping from high rocky cliffs. For Tom Hooper, a highly talented, handsome, intelligent and likable fellow who directed a very commendable 1993 film called The King's Speech, has won the DGA award for feature film directing...and when I heard this news about 80 minutes ago, I folded. My face turned ashen gray and I died a little inside. Because I knew then and there that the Best Picture Oscar race was all but over. The King's Speech will almost certainly win and...

I entered the MUBI contest. I'm quite likely going to win--I've got my finger on the pulse of Hollywood.

I've got mine on the taint of Hollywood.

Didn't know that Hooper directed John Adams, which is better than most of the Oscar finalists, including The King's Speech.

haha did he??? i was actually comparing the two in my head the other day! mostly because when i saw John Adams i was really bugged by how IN UR FACE the direction was*... i get that the idea was to make history seem immediate and real or w/e but it felt overcooked to me. king's speech's direction was showy in a similar way but it bothered me less.

*i was also bugged by what a lame-o John Adams apparently was. whenever Franklin and Jefferson were onscreen i was just like, why couldnt the miniseries be about those cool bros instead of this angry toad

i didnt realize he also did that movie where samantha morton played Myra Hindley. that one was alright

Kunis also won the Marcello Mastroianni award at Venice xxxxxposts

why couldnt the miniseries be about those cool bros instead of this angry toad

Exactly how the other Framers regarded Adams.

so it's like TKS. why couldn't that film be about the nazi-sympathising abdicating dude instead of the lame-o with the stammer?

he was obnoxious and disliked, you know that sir

xp

think madonna's upcoming film will handle the wallis 'n' eddie story

TKS won Best Ensemble at the SAG awards.

gag

Caption this photo:

http://www.latimes.com/media/alternatethumbnails/photo/2011-01/59129354-30195142.jpg

I recognize that guy in the middle--he was in the Vengaboys Six Flags commercial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU2yt6wOoK0

"M. White shares stories from ILTMI."

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2011/01/after_the_fall.php

kind of hilare 1) what a gaping arsehole j-wells is 2) how seriously people take this shit

kind of doubt bigelow and fincher were as classless as is suggested

I guess all detrius now goes under Oscars, huh? *fart*

i forgot to search for the popular 'directors guild' thread, silly me

think madonna's upcoming film will handle the wallis 'n' eddie story

Yah but it sounds pathetic -- according to madonna they are poor misunderstood nazi sympathizers whom history has just been unfairly mean to. Could be v. funny though.

oscars are racist say guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2011/feb/07/oscar-nominations-hollywood-black-swan?CMP=twt_fd

It's a streaming luncheon!

http://www.awardsdaily.com/2011/02/oscar-nominees-luncheon-today/

Well, there was one omission we can all surely agree was uncomfortable this year. There were no black nominations.

Ignoring a few of the more obscure technical categories, there was not one significant nomination of a black actor, writer or director.

yes, feel free to ignore any categories that contradict the entire point of yr essay.

i honestly don't know if there were any but if there were some then why say none?

baftas really transparently trying to secure a "british" win at the oscars imo, but glad hooper did not get director

If Best Picture Nominee Posters Told The Truth

Eric & Ed back at predix btw:

http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/category/awards/

current list of presenters/performers:

http://thefilmexperience.net/blog/2011/2/17/academy-presenters-our-annual-academy-nudging.html

lolz:

A number of pundits have already pointed out, in comparing Firth's easy win here against Annette Bening's increasingly uphill battle to reach endgame over in Best Actress, how AMPAS continues to think that men age like fine wine and that women spoil faster than leaky, raw chicken breast tenders in a Styrofoam tray. Firth's emerging worry lines and crow's feet are as much to account for his easy win as his affected stammer as the emotionally crippled King Bertie, and the presence of a couple of actors whose youth and charisma make Oscar feel all funny in his special area only underline Firth's win. (For that matter, you might say Firth's Oscar chances last year weren't so much dashed by Bridges's battles with the bottle as they were by Tom Ford's taste in men, culled from the very same smoldering age bracket Oscar simply can't stomach.)

Filling out my office-pool ballot right now. Only category I'm still dithering about is Makeup. Alice in Wonderland vs. King's Speech. Both won prizes from the Costume Designers Guild.

Oops, obv. meant Costume Design, not Makeup. (

you mean costume not makeup, right?

i put king's speech

xp ha

is there a thread for posting predictions or is here as good as any?

"best picture - HOW TO BE"

who's got two thumbs and was overlooked for best supporting actor 2009

this guy

Yeah, I took a deep breath and went with King's Speech, too.

max, have you seen how to be? rebecca pidgeon is in this one.

Here's what I picked (we didn't vote on Sound Mixing or the three shorts categories):

PICTURE: The King's Speech
DIRECTOR: David Fincher
ACTOR: Colin Firth
ACTRESS: Natalie Portman
SUPPORTING ACTOR: Christian Bale
SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Melissa Leo
ORIG SCREENPLAY: The King's Speech
ADAPTED SCREENPLAY: The Social Network
ANIMATED: Toy Story 3
CINEMATOGRAPHY: True Grit
ART DIRECTION: The King's Speech
COSTUME: The King's Speech
MAKEUP: The Wolfman
FILM EDITING: The Social Network
VISUAL EFFECTS: Inception
SOUND EDITING: Inception
ORIGINAL SCORE: The King's Speech
ORIGINAL SONG: "We Belong Together" (Toy Story 3)
DOCUMENTARY FEATURE: Inside Job
FOREIGN-LANGUAGE FILM: In a Better World

i havent seen how to be yet but i know one of the guys who made it

what gives you the confidence to vote on sound editing but not sound mixing

all of jaymc's picks could come through, but I still think either Bale or Leo is going to lose. And I suspect that Inside Job could pay for the Obama-has-no-clothes segment.

Nice Bunuel quote I never saw before:

"Nothing would disgust me more morally than receiving an Oscar. Nothing in the world would make me go accept it. I wouldn’t have it in my home."

you think exit wins instead of inside job?

but I still think either Bale or Leo is going to lose.

I should note that I tend to fairly conservative about my predictions. Unless I have a really strong hunch, I tend to go with the expert consensus. This is mostly because I bet on the results, and I'd feel worse about losing dark-horse picks than losing favorites.

So, for instance, I will not be surprised in the least if Leo loses, but neither Steinfeld and Bonham Carter feel solid enough to stake anything on.

you think exit wins instead of inside job?

Nope (and I pray not, haaaaated it)

I will not be posting a list of picks as I don't want anyone tying me in the Ebert contest.

wow, looks like The King's Speech has finally killed the Oscars on ILE.

here's the spoiler show rundown:

http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/snorefest-oscar-show-rundown-exclusive-spoilers-from-the-annotated-schedule/

and massive pundit prediction chart:

http://www.awardsdaily.com/Predictions/main.php

I saw jaymc a couple of days ago; too bad this boner-inducing chart wasn't a conversation piece.

if HBC wins, it'll be a long evening.

yes, one of the Awards Daily 'no guts no glory' suggestions was a King's clean sweep.

I will be offline at the usual party, so yall have fun.

consensus is so depressing. at least the minor awards will be interesting.

you can listen for my bellowing if Bansky wins.

PICTURE: The King's Speech
DIRECTOR: David Fincher
ACTOR: Colin Firth
ACTRESS: Natalie Portman
SUPPORTING ACTOR: Christian Bale
SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Melissa Leo

So, all these are miles ahead as favourites in the odds. The only award the bookies rate as even a two-horse race is Best Director (and Fincher's still like 1/2 to Hooper's 6/4). Didn't the main categories used to be a bit ... closer?

True Grit is a decent outside bet at 33/1.

not consistently, no. xp

tho I can see Fincher and Leo losing, I really can

Yeah, you're right. Actually, the odds on Leo vs Steinfeld are similar to Fincher v Hooper – I misspoke. Still, it would be nice to have a big award with no clear favourite.

After seeing (the amazing) Animal Kingdom this morning, the only film featured in those six categories I've not seen is The Town. Kind of tempted to watch it tonight for completeness's sake, but it looks kind of lame.

it's not even on regular tv in the uk

basically, even though i started this thread (five months ago) http://www.big-t-shirts.com/ProdImages/big/792.jpg

Supporting Actress almost always promises a surprise.

we all do, even if we don't want to admit it xpost

i dont, i havent watched the oscars since the 90s... i just read this thread cuz it seems like end of year movie talk got shunted here from the detrius thread

added scoops to link above:

Billy Crystal does a monologue at the 2/3 point

Kirk Douglas to present supporting actress

can't believe i'm rooting for the social network

ditto

i have to fill out a ballot 4 the oscar party im going 2 tonight so i think im just going 2 copy yours jaymc. if i win i will gladly split the bottle of champagne + 'mystery prize' with you

other option is just fill out a lol ballot & wait for toy story 3 to take best picture

rooting for True Grit even tho it'll just get Cinematography and maaaayyybe Sup Actress.

Re: no horseraces upthread, i wouldn't worry oscar voters don't = pundits/bookies. There's always surprises.

I'll be v happy if INSIDE JOB loses, i'll be v v happy if GASLAND wins

What did you dislike about Inside Job? Too tricksily innuendo-filled with the interview editing?

you know the prob w/ the massive pundits' prediction chart above? no one logs who has the best track record. jaymc, any idea?

(I mean past prediction success)

Yeah, I don't hate INSIDE JOB (WASTELAND, on the other hand...), but I'd rather see the Academy celebrate something formally exciting.

Tell me about Wasteland. I haven't seen it it's just out in cinemas here.

I'm rooting for Exit Through the Gift Shop simply because it might result in an epic Dr. Morbius rant.

watched every second of the oscars last year, but didn't feel particularly rewarded for it. i mean i feel sorry for the academy and their diminishing tv ratings, but there's not an awful lot of draw in sitting down to watch celebrities sitting down to watch celebrities.

xxpost -- walking out the door but this piece pretty much nails it: http://www.indiewire.com/article/ego_vs._altruism_turning_trash_into_art_in_waste_land/

Please don't make Biutiful win best foreign language picture, Academy. Pretty please?

fingers crossed for Dogtooth! IT CAN HAPPEN!

i'm rooting against exit because the british press will be extra insufferable tomorrow if that and king's speech win

they'll be insufferable if anything british gets any award at all. they'd probably be insufferable AND indignant if Britain wins nothing. basically you're fucked no matter what happens.

it's the self-congratulatory stuff that bothers me, especially the kind of stuff i imagine would follow a banksy win.

is Apatow getting the Lifetime Achievement this year?

i think the King's Speech stuff would be a lot worse. that's the kind of classic, British pride that appeals to the average BBC/ITV viewer. xpost

I really like a lot of British films, and I want the industry to succeed and I'm sad about the UK Film Council etc etc..., but that parochial raising up of everything British really gets on my tits. Kermode especially.

the only british media i encounter is the guardian, which is why the banksy win worries me.

does kermode like 'the king's speech'? i hated it and hope it loses

literally the only time i ever heard kemode/mayo was them talking about the king's speech. iirc it sounded like a 3/5 review, slightly patronising "(surprisingly) well done" tone. but i guess once the britfilm momentum gets up and as the voice of semi-serious criticism on the national broadcaster, he has little choice.

he wasn't terribly enthusiastic about it in the original review, but once the momentum got going he can't say anything bad about it. he's oftentimes very forgiving of British films in a way he isn't towards anything else. a notable exception would be his (not totally incorrect) insistence that The Queen is a TV movie and shouldn't be on the big screen. Once TKS took off in theatres he was always supportive and glowing about it.

Any hints on a stream site for a poor britisher?

i imagine nothing solid will come up until the actual ceremony starts in a little over an hour.

Cool, ta. I think I miscalculated the time difference - I thought it was about 11:30.

Do people really, I mean really, enjoy watching these red carpet scenes for more than 5 minutes?

im enjoying that tim gunn is one of the interviewers

would watch for things like this, from Richard Brody: Jesse Eisenberg to Robin, saying he doesn't have a TV "but I love watching you in person."

So do people have any hints, streamwise, for when it starts? (I have some people over post-pub to watch it, but by the looks of things they will fall asleep before it starts anyway)

1am

Thanks, I was more asking about streams than times. Is the Oscar.go.com site free?

Poor Marisa Tomei--I can't see her or even hear her name without immediately laughing and thinking of George Costanza groping himself on the couch.

"I have a thing for funny, sstocky, bald men" "I noticed you threw in stocky this time". Or something.

http://abovethelaw.com/_old/images/entries/animated%20siren%20gif%20animated%20siren%20gif%20animated%20siren%20gif%20drudge%20report.GIFJAMES FRANCO/BRUCE VILANCH SLAP FIGHT!!!http://abovethelaw.com/_old/images/entries/animated%20siren%20gif%20animated%20siren%20gif%20animated%20siren%20gif%20drudge%20report.GIF

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/259068/FRANCO-VILANCH.jpg