No TV vs no cellphone vs no Facebook?

have all of them, could do w/o TV & cell phone 99% of the time

looool being 23 in 2010

i think amazingly TV will outlast both facebook and cellphones.

no facebook, have and love the other two

I have no TV. Wish there was no facebook. Cell is kind of useful I guess.

I haven't watched television in about two weeks. I find the internet more educational. I'm not down on television as some kind of crank / puritan, it's just that I find it personally dulling. I like news programming, some things, like comedy and films are easier to consume on tv....that's about it.

They say print media should feel threatened by internet, I think that in the long run, television should. But you never read the television industry commenting on this!

I feel TV as a medium is more akin to the internet, while cellphones and facebook are just the latest flavors of things that will pass us by.
i mean already, people are starting to use ipads to replace their cellphones.

yeah i wouldn't equate the lonegvity/utility of the three, but they're probably all above 80% saturation levels i'd guess.....

have all three, could live easily without the cellphone, my life would utterly collapse without the other two. also, about 98% of my cell phone usage involves facebook or twitter.

i don't have facebook. watch tv occasionally. i have no phone but only cos i lost it almost a month ago now. kinda broke and phones are expensive. i don't feel like my life is any worse off without it, and i'm enjoying the absence of phone calls from debt collection service asking for my overdraft back. it is difficult when i meet people who might potentially book me for work but email usually suffices -- ditto keeping up with friends. facebook just seems like bullshit to me and i really don't need another reason to be on the internet tbh. i guess a tiny part of me is proud that i resisted it but i would never throw it around in conversation like a badge of honour. i think it's worse when people act all faux shocked that anybody could live without it

have all 3

have a super cheap phone and phone plan - use phone a lot for simple texts ('I'll be 5 mins late) and rarely for conversations

the only things I really care about on TV is sports...would get rid of tv if it were up to me

fb pretty essential

Nice to have a phone. Facebook has its uses. So long as you have a monitor or screen of some sort to watch what you want to watch, then hey.

I have all three but the only one that's essential to me is the battery-powered computer w/internet access that disguises itself as a cell phone. The phone is the feature I use the least.

Facebook could go offline tomorrow and it wouldn't affect me at all.

So long as you have a monitor or screen of some sort to watch what you want to watch, then hey.

Ned OTM

facebook - have it, it's useful for many things (primarily acting as my diary and enabling people to find me and offer me paid work), but i've gone from regular daily usage to only logging in occasionally. mostly because of twitter and the fact that i've had to friend club promoters and PRs for work and they deluge me with stupid invites to stupid things, and fb feels like a swamp. hate it when friends insist on only communicating through fb messages and am very pro an email revival.

phone - have a blackberry. invaluable. w/r/t the actual phone element, it's 90% texting, or phoning in a "hi i'm here where are you" sense. never been the kind of person to call someone just to talk. as per the other thread, my phone is always on silent and even if i notice it ringing i rarely answer it - if it's important people will text or email. i hate the way phone calls demand your attention NOW NOW NOW - it's like someone turning up unannounced at your door and DEMANDING TO TALK NOW regardless of what you're doing. there's something very primitive about it. caitlin moran, the british columnist, recently wrote something very funny about how it was no coincidence that the telephone was invented in an era when cocaine was available in high street chemists.

tv - we have one, in the living room. i watch it for 10 hours per day during wimbledon, and not at all otherwise, so effectively don't have one (if i was living by myself i wouldn't bother to acquire one). people who keep tvs in their BEDROOMS are disgusting savages imo.

no facebook. tv I watch an hour or two a day on average. cellphone I rarely use, pretty much only in emergencies.

fb looks like it's about to die imho

Oh man, I am a serial luddite. I have no Facebook, no TV (I do watch stuff on iplayer but generally there is only one show on per season that I am interested in following), and didn't have a phone until several years after everyone else I knew had one, whereupon I continued telling everyone I didn't have one out of a fear that they would ask for my number and then I'd have to be available to talk to them whenever they wished

obviously this was a pretty distorted view of my own popularity and only about 3 of the people who have my number ever ring it, but still

srsly? xp

i'll never part with my teletype

srsly? xp

I strongly believe so too. Eventually people will get bored of it - just like they did with Friendster, MySpace

I don't see fb dying within the next few years

yeah just judging from its cultural saturation - most of the people I know who are on it seem to complain about it regularly - not to mention that it's based on a business model that is doomed to failure (i.e., the only way it will make money is from advertising, and its customers will desert it as soon as advertising companies get their hands on it). plus the novelty of it is wearing off, etc. I mean, this is basically like myspace or napster or lol aol.com or any other half-assed startup that generated a ton of money and interest up front and then got too big to be sustainable and then crashed and burned.

xp

nah

I feel like friendster, myspace were quickly replaceable because they hadn't really reached the users that fb had - were still mostly just for young and computer-happy types. whereas my entire extended family is on fb and I don't see them quickly shifting to something else like ilx-types might. sorta the AOL-effect.

eventually it will just become a graveyard populated by robo-ads and dead accounts, just like every other internet novelty site

novelty might be wearing off, but being able to quickly contact anyone you even vaguely know just by typing their name into a search field is pretty classic and it's an easy way for people to share stuff with people they know without having to use blogging software or Flickr or some more specialized service

facebook is really vulnerable in a way TV isn't in that if a certain subset of any given group gets fed up with it or migrates elsewhere, the whole group has no reason to stay on it.

Facebook's lasted longer than I might have guessed, honestly. Certainly I am waiting for that 'turn' moment in full...and yet, I don't know. Google didn't seem like it would be anything another than just another search engine and here we are. Things *can* take hold.

i used to think fb was here to stay because of the utility features that made people reliant on it (acting as a diary, primarily) - i no longer think this. the whole thing looks like a mess and is a hassle to use these days.

it'll survive for a while because its core users aren't the hipster internet nomads of friendster and myspazz who were always going to be up for a new shiny internet toy, they're regular people who like comfort and familiarity and not starting from scratch, so i guess the migration won't be as quick.

many xps

don't use my facebook, barely watch tv

will vote no Facebook and count myself as having a TV, cz while my average TV watching is probably well under an hour per week I'm glad to have the option

I avoided getting a Friendster and Myspace too and have been waiting for FB to go the same way, even sometimes tell myself that I should get in on the next one but there's no point getting on FB now, but it's definitely taking longer about it, seems a lot more universal. but there's definitely been an increase in negative comments about it lately from the people I know who just have accounts and aren't into the tech side or the privacy angle or whatever

calling it a novelty site is basically absurd. it's the most used website in america. xp

fb just isn't sustainable economically. someone explain to me how their model is going to make money? all of their options for generating revenue - charging for services, selling user data to marketers, placing ads - will just cause their audience to desert them. They can't run on venture capital forever.

whoah many xp

calling it a novelty site is basically absurd. it's the most used website in america. xp[

more than Google? find that hard to believe

also, when I say I don't really use TV, that's kinda bullshit -- I use YouTube all the fucking time and watch video podcasts. so I'm still consuming tons of video content, I'm just not doing it in front of a television screen

http://www.alexa.com/search?q=facebook.com&r=home_home&p=bigtop

Google didn't seem like it would be anything another than just another search engine and here we are. Things *can* take hold.

Google massively diversified and figured out how to generate income streams. I dunno where facebook's income streams are. someone point them out to me.

# Alexa Traffic Rank: 2
# United States Flag Traffic Rank in US: 2

like, Google OWNS a bunch of shit. and they provide all kinds of services that people DO pay for. to my knowledge, Facebook doesn't do this.

facebook is already making money iirc.

xp oh well at least it beat google some week cause I remember the newstory

calling it a novelty site is basically absurd. it's the most used website in america. xp

Which proves nothing. MySpace was the most popular website for awhile.

yeah my point wasn't to say whether Google or Facebook was bigger, my point was just to basically agree with you -- FB is huge

Friendster - Its the new thing

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-does-facebook-make-money-2010-5

expanding these income streams will kill facebook fyi

yeah just judging from its cultural saturation - most of the people I know who are on it seem to complain about it regularly

[banaka]this is the sort of repressive tolerance that has come to be associated with other bourgeois-vitalist commonplaces; marriage, cocaine, probation. it is to be expected that 'facebook' is coeval with those other fads, and will find its death alongside them.[/banaka]

FB had more page hits than google globally as of last week, I read somewhere.

Does "I ave a TV but dont watch it cuz the arial isnt plugged in" count? Not a huge amt of ppl in Aus watch cable tv - its not saturated like in the US. I do occasionally watch ABC iVIew online and of course a shit ton of dvds.

Use FB just because its there. Own a cellphone, always ignore it when it rings, haha.

Like basically they're making money off the things that have made other sites (like Myspace) completely intolerable. That is not a sustainable model for growth.

xp

Let's roll the time machine back to 2006

In a sign of the times, MySpace.com has overtaken Yahoo Mail and Google Search as the most visited web site (page) last week. Hitwise, the web traffic and behavior tracking people, say that MySpace attracted 4.46% of all US visits, which pushed Yahoo Mail down to 2nd place and tops all other web portals.

As MySpace continues to rapidly build market share, it is proving to become a steal for Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp, which purchased MySpace for $550 Million and is expected to reach the $80 Million advertising revenue mark this year.

And that’s without many changes to the community or major search engine marketing partnerships.

One amazing fact which came about from a ComScore Networks release is that MySpace usage by tweens and high schoolers is declining a bit while the site is becoming more popular among adults.

You could reuse that entire article again after search/replacing MySpace with Facebook

those of you on facebook, think of the smallest number of people within your circle of active users to stop using it before it cascades to the point that you yourself would stop using it. i'm pulling this number out of nowhere, but I suspect each group is on average really sustained by as few as 3 users?

the thing is, what's out there that can get those 3 users to defect right now?

FWIW if FB dies, it'll more likely be due to being hacked/attacked/exploited by API hackers some time very soon - that DNS outage last week was just the start.

And see now, I never knew anyone on myspace, but my entire extended family and pretty much all my IRL friends are on FB. Its weird.

myspace and friendster both peaked but only because they were *replaced* not because people got sick of internet social network sites. I mean fb prob isn't gonna be here forever, but because it's going to be replaced by a site that does all the things it does, and does them better.

one thing facebook is really vulnerable on is there's no way to post animated gifs. (hint to any would-be facebook-killing entrepreneur)

and the cycle will continue until someone actually figures out how to do it while making money! this is the magic issue that everyone on this thread seems to be ignoring: PEOPLE ARE NOT WILLING TO PAY FOR INTERNET SOCIAL NETWORKING SITES. just like they aren't willing to pay for music, etc.

xp

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-facebook-became-cash-flow-positive-a-year-ahead-of-schedule-2009-9

myspace and friendster both peaked but only because they were *replaced* not because people got sick of internet social network sites. I mean fb prob isn't gonna be here forever, but because it's going to be replaced by a site that does all the things it does, and does them better.

I think people will just burn out on social networking - or at least the monolithic "destination" style of social networking that MySpace/Facebook represents.

people want everything on the internet for free and as long as there are investors stupid enough to gamble on the next "hot" new site they will keep bankrolling free services that will become popular and make money for a little bit and then people will get sick of them or leave the site for some reason and the cycle will start all over again. the miracle of capitalism...

shakey your argument would make a lot more sense if this were 2006 and facebook wasn't a hugely successful business making lots of money

shakey your argument would make a lot more sense if this were 2006 and facebook wasn't a hugely successful business making lots of money

Which is no guarantee of anything. Yahoo was a profitable company once.

right, yet the fact that yahoo has financial problems doesn't prove that you can't make money w/ a search engine

I'm curuous as to the long term sustainability of the internet as a whole, tbh. It costs a lot of money to keep the core infrastructure maintainted - have you seen the cost of Cisco core routers, RAID arrays, fibre channels etc? And in countries like Aus you have distance to contend with on top of that, so theres sattelites and long rolls of fiberoptic and etc.

Gotta pay for all that somehow, and yet ppl want endless unlimited data and minimal monthlys for their internet. And no ads. And no cost for websites. Or music. Or TV.

The centre surely cannot hold.

Don't have, need, or want a cellphone. (I was being razzed at work today for not having a cellphone or answering machine.) I've been on Facebook for a year-plus--it's not even a tiny part of my life. (My computer, and more specifically the internet in general, that's another story--I'd have a harder time adjusting to not having that than any technology this side of a fridge or something.) Of the three choices, TV is easily the one I'd have the hardest time living without. Strange, because pretty much all I watch are CNN, Seinfeld reruns, some sports, and the occasional movie; mostly it's just a monitor for playing DVDs. But generationally, it's hard-wired into my brain. It has to be there, or it would feel like a huge absence.

shakey your argument would make a lot more sense if this were 2006 and facebook wasn't a hugely successful business making lots of money

again, look at where their revenue streams are - spambots and ad profiles. as soon as they're overrun with that stuff, their user base will diminish. no one wants to belong to anything where they're constantly being bombarded with ads, and no one wants to use a social networking site like FB that costs money.

(secondly, they aren't making a TON or anything, a few hundred million is not a lot tbh)

xp

I don't like being capt-defend-a-fb cause the company itself is pretty horrible and I hope it isn't around forever. but I think the basic idea of a shared online social network is pretty useful. I think that anything I can do w/ fb today I'll be able to do with some device 10 years from now, just like I'm pretty sure I'll be able to look shit up on the internet 10 years from now even if google and yahoo go out of business.

do many people really demanded unlimited data?

i'd be interested in any 'death of the internet' speculative articles....not something i've taken srsly before i guess

I think the basic idea of a shared online social network is pretty useful.

Case in point. ILX.

o one wants to belong to anything where they're constantly being bombarded with ads

I could be in a minority but I thought a very large amt of people knew how to employ adblockers/script blockers. I do, I never see a single ad on fb or any other page. And no one clickthrus on ads, so I have never understood that business model to begin with.

i'll take a few hunderd million... if that's chump change, i'll be that chump

I'm just saying, if Facebook's hiring, I wouldn't take a job there. their business model is fucked.

Case in point. ILX.

ILX runs because we pay for it iirc. and I'm happy to do so! this site rocks and I don't have a problem with fundraisers/pledge drives.

do many people really demanded unlimited data?

I got the impression Americans take it for granted! Data is capped severely over here, and only now veering in to the Tb levels for the highest plans - most ppl get 10-60gb data a month, or pay by the mb.

this is pointless and I have to go update my fb status about how I'm making dinner, then make dinner, so I am not gonna discuss this anymore. but I will bump this thread 10 years from now.

maybe ppl take transfer limits as an affront, so dsl/cable providers will try to broadcast them, but i doubt very many ppl use over 60gb a month traffic

I could be in a minority but I thought a very large amt of people knew how to employ adblockers/script blockers. I do, I never see a single ad on fb or any other page. And no one clickthrus on ads, so I have never understood that business model to begin with.

this is just emblematic of Facebook's larger problem - the only way they can make money is from advertisers. and the only reason advertisers will pay them is if they can reach their user base. but the user base which will do everything in their power to avoid advertisers, including deserting Facebook for some newer, freer alternative. it's a race to the bottom for these kinds of sites, they aren't sustainable.

I'm curuous as to the long term sustainability of the internet as a whole, tbh. It costs a lot of money to keep the core infrastructure maintainted - have you seen the cost of Cisco core routers, RAID arrays, fibre channels etc? And in countries like Aus you have distance to contend with on top of that, so theres sattelites and long rolls of fiberoptic and etc.

Gotta pay for all that somehow, and yet ppl want endless unlimited data and minimal monthlys for their internet. And no ads. And no cost for websites. Or music. Or TV.

I think the bigger threat to the internet is corporate/government interdiction and a (perceived?) trend in reorienting the net from an bilateral communication tool to asymmetric broadcasting.

(will try *not* to broadcast them xxp)

Have all three. FB useful, but I could lose it today without problem; cell is barely used (I have the cheapest plan available and have still accumulated $370 in minutes), but when it's needed, it's essential; TV is on a lot, esp during baseball season. It would be the hardest to get rid of, but I think I could figure some workarounds if it came down to that.

have no tv

i have tv but rarely watch it for reasons much like u s steel gave at beginning of thread

i have cellphone but was a latecomer to that world. was kinda saddened by ppl on that big thread today saying that they rarely used their phone for anything besides txting. i'm not a big "phone person" by any means, and i do my fair share of avoiding answering calls, but at the same time i do enjoy having phone conversations, particularly with friends who are located far away. it's more enjoyable, far richer experience than just interacting with someone via txt or im or what have you. i mean it's nice to hear someone's laugh instead of reading 'lol' or being delivered emoticons

i've tried to sign up for facebook but was instantly creeped out by it, i mean by how it straightaway demanded access to every trail of my internet activity

I think the bigger threat to the internet is corporate/government interdiction and a (perceived?) trend in reorienting the net from an bilateral communication tool to asymmetric broadcasting.

This is an interesting concept, yeah. obv in my line of work, this is all front of mind for me. Its my living! And changes affect my job. I'm trying to keep abreast of all the tech and sociological advances.

i have a tv set for dvds, but don't watch tv b/c i don't care enough to pay for it. i do watch some stuff at friends' houses, though. i have a cell phone but hate talking on it, mostly for the reasons that lex mentioned, mostly use it for texting. have FB but hate it b/c it makes me feel misanthropic, only use it for FB messages.

i've tried to sign up for facebook but was instantly creeped out by it, i mean by how it straightaway demanded access to every trail of my internet activity

OTM. I get kinda pissed off whenever a web site nags me to log in with a Facebook/Twitter account

how many of you still visit MySpace regularly? The only ones I know who still do are college radio types who post music files, which, oddly, are still the only reasons to visit.

I do still load up myspaz to check out a band's tracks, though I'll preference bandcamp or emusic if theyre there.

haven't had a MySpace since 2006 iirc

soundcloud is probably a good bet for a place that musicians can eventually migrate to, away from nasty clunky myspace.

I'm curuous as to the long term sustainability of the internet as a whole, tbh.

i've also wondered about this - the idea that the internet and all her toys are free is so ingrained now.

And no one clickthrus on ads, so I have never understood that business model to begin with.

and yes, this! the reliance of internet businesses on advertising really doesn't strike me as particularly sound.

*nods* but then again, TV ads dont require it either. so p'raps its just the passive views they want?

i read that this new fangled funny money scheme they have going is what's gonna pay the bills, maybe even compete with paypal?

idk if clickthrus are the best way to quantify the effectiveness of advertising. xpost, what she said.

1987 vintage tv: gets only sparse use, except basketball games and misc timewasting.
Cellphone: usually sits in a drawer. I hate phones in general.
Facebook, MySpace, or other social networks sites: zero interest.

But I am an aging codger (55), one step away from being an old coot, so my cultural identity demands nothing less.

I get kinda pissed off whenever a web site nags me to log in with a Facebook/Twitter account

I also think it's weird when in events listings there are no details given, but only a facebook link that proves inaccessible w/o having a fb account

I could totally get along without all three, and did, until this year:

-I was without TV for the past four years, didn't really miss it, but I have it now.

-I don't have a cellphone, haven't had one for the past 6 years, but I am getting one this month as my lifestyle has become such that a mobile will be a big help.

-I've never had Facebook and I never plan to.

I kind of always dug telling my college freshmen students about "I don't have a cell phone" because the reaction was so rich, like I said "I don't have a family" or "I'm not allowed to celebrate Christmas," that kind of facial expression. Extreme shock and pity! Which was v v funny to me. Except one girl (who was a great super smart student, one of the best), who gasped and said, "I have so much respect for you! If I date a guy, he has to not have a cellphone or a facebook, it's my #1 requirement." ????

Times it got out that I didn't have a car though it got pretty sad...I kept that shit to myself if I could.

I just don't have these things because I am poor and I didn't want to work more. I think it would be really convenient and fun to have a cell phone! In fact, back in 2004 when I had one, I remember playing with my cell phone while I was on mushrooms and thinking they were about the best technology ever invented. "Everyone I love is with me all the time in this glowing pretty color box."

People think you are a terrible person who makes it impossible to get together if you don't have a cell phone. You have to actually make people *plan* when and where you will meet up, which is like pulling teeth sometimes! Like you have to say, for example, "When I pick you up from the airport, please be in place X in the airport," rather than what everyone wants, which is "Yo I will just call you when I am inside the airport and we'll both be on the phone and walk towards each other while talking on the phone." No one likes making old-style plans anymore!

the example I always use when talking about that phenomenon is getting lost in disneyland as a kid - I mean, you got lost, you got LOST.

I have to admit I even find myself now thinking "how did I plan and meet ppl as a teenager?". And I dont even rely on my ph that much tho I do a lot of txting.

no FB/TV if my work didn't require a phone I would consider not having one either (but would probably end up keeping it).

I have to admit I even find myself now thinking "how did I plan and meet ppl as a teenager?"]

yeah, it seems almost kind of romantic to think back. you'd make plans to meet your friends at the mall or at a show or whatever, and eventually you'd run into them at some point after maybe having some little adventures along the way. no spontaneity-killing compulsive back and forth texting "are u here?" "i am up front where ru" etc.

no cell phone no tv & also no phone and no internet or computer at my apartment! i'll have to get a land line soon because my girlfriend doesn't like not being able to get in touch with me but tbrr this is the way to live imo

How the hell are you posting -- are you thinking really hard at ilx?

we're inside his mind, yo

also that would prob mean that i had an internet connection and didn't have to pathetically post to ilx at school or from my mom's computer

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what name is your mom posting under, again?

Colonel Poo

no fb/tv (i watch alot of tv via internet though)

benefits of my current life style

- making old-style plans
- using payphones is v cinematic & romantic
- i hate the way phone calls demand your attention NOW NOW NOW - it's like someone turning up unannounced at your door and DEMANDING TO TALK NOW regardless of what you're doing. there's something very primitive about it. : avoiding this
- spend a lot of time just listening to recods with my roommates being p at ease and not always thinking about who has called me wanting to hang out that day & feeling bad if i forgot to call them back

i gotta say though, i fuck with facebook pretty heavily & often have to keep myself in check from over-posting (though i am not one of those creeps who comments on everyone's photos all the time thank god). i've been a message board dweller since i was like thirteen and have often felt like a shut-in & loser for it but fb is just a totally socially acceptable & ubiquitous one which is nice

No phone, no TV, yes Facebook. I spend most of my life at a computer so email/Facebook is well over 50% of my human interaction (this is mostly because of my chosen lifestyle, I do have friends irl). Friends do rail at me constantly for not having a phone, it bothers them a whole lot more than it does me because they're forced to deviate from their usual practice. Sometimes I feel bad about this.

About the FB business model: I still don't understand why anyone clicks on Google Ads but obviously they do (people open attachments from Nigerian oil heiresses too). Facebook seems to do a decent job of targetting ads/fake polls so I don't know that it's necessarily doomed.

- first got a cellphone two years ago, because they were finally a device that played music and video and texted and took photos and emailed and googled and had little games and were a diary and an alarm clock and and and. I'd be fine with it if the making-phone-calls bit didn't work, I don't like the phone much generally and mobile reception is still shit.
- went without a TV for 2.5 years, have had one again for four or five months, watch one or two hours a week. (I work in TV, lol)
- don't have facebook, won't have facebook.

Benefit of no tv/limited news pages on net: I have avoided all the fooforaw of this years footy grand final. Unfortunately ppl posting on FB did not let me avioid it entirely :/

i'd totally give up the phone before anything else. i wish i didn't need a phone, but i have a cell and a landline. we never use the landline and it has become kind of a nuisance (relentless calls from creditors who can't be bothered to update their records and find the person they're actually looking for). but i have the landline number on my resume because it's a local area code and my cell is out-of-state.

no cellphone, no desire for one.

I am toying with having cable taken out when baseball is over (and in the spring I can watch it all online); we'll see if I have the balls.

(xp) i like facebook most of the time but i prefer twitter. however, i post things for a general audience on twitter, so facebook is my de facto private space for stuff i don't necessarily want to share with strangers or my parents.

have all 3

have a super cheap phone and phone plan - use phone a lot for simple texts ('I'll be 5 mins late) and rarely for conversations

the only things I really care about on TV is sports...would get rid of tv if it were up to me

fb pretty essential

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facebook is my de facto private space for stuff i don't necessarily want to share with strangers or my parents.

See I dont use fb that way at all, to me fb is my public space which is why I write silly throwaway crap on there. Livejournal remains my private rantspace, but it has become terribly tumbleweed there recently (very sharply - dunno if its cos of FB or what).

Could do without TV, as for face book, i'm not 13 years old so don't use that.
Phone pretty essential.

goo goo ga ga.

I have no Facebook. When I was on FB, I was checking it constantly on my iphone. I was maybe not addicted (<- denial lol), but I found I was wasting too much time on it. I have absolutely no problem with FB itself, nor people who do use it. Kind of hate people who LOUDLY SHOUT they don't have it as they are better than those who do.

(instead of FB addiction I now have Drop7 obsession lolol). I have an iphone and three TVs. lol

don't watch tv
have a cellphone but i keep it on silent, not really that fussed
significant amount of social life is organized thru fb

I haven't watched television but two times in the entire month, so that one I can handle no sweat. I sometimes go a day or more without seeing Facebook, and it doesn't kill me. If I'm without my cell phone for more than a day, I start to get edgy, knowing people might be trying to contact me, although I am not glued to it at all.

So cell phone.

ahh I misunderstood the poll question. yea, I have all three.

Although I have three tellies, I don't watch telly that much. I do use the one for downloaded series, but apart from that I dont watch that much tv. One's for gaming, one in the bedroom (kids come and watch in the morning) and third one in the living room

a. i'm way surprised at how many ppl here don't have cellphones or only acquired one within the last couple of years. i thought i was one of the last cellphoneless ppl, and i got my hands on one a full five years ago
b. even for those of you who are unemployed-- how on earth do you find the time to facebook, AND twitter AND ilx, AND watch tv programs/listen to music/take in movies/socialize, AND sleep/eat/do laundry? i don't get it

have all three. actually, I don't have a TV set but I still consider myself as having a TV since I watch tons of stuff over the internet, including sports and other live broadcasts. I just hate commercials but thingies like TiVo which allow you to skip ads don't exist where I live.

can probably live without facebook, but I would def miss being able to keep in touch with people - three quarters of my friends don't live in the same country as I do.

phone pretty essential to my job. wish it wasn't though.

xpost answer to b: there are 24 hrs in a day, y'know. ;-)

You can be on Facebook and watch TV at the same time. You can text while watching TV. I think I use the TV as background music in my house. It's on, but I'm not always paying full attention to it.

These are trying times for people with AADD.

Have all three. Had no TV for a few years, got one a few months ago, could easily do without it again (but watched shows on Hulu on my laptop in the interim, so does that count as not having TV?)

I use FB every day but it's pure recreation, my life would be essentially the same if it went away tomorrow. More or less the same for TV. So the cell would be hardest to give up -- for starters, I have a kid in daycare and need to be available any time for that "he barfed, come get him" call. How do people without cell phones handle that?

It would be way harder for me to live without Google than any of these.

have all 3, could throw the tv out of the window anytime

look fwd to reading this but shakey is nuts if he thinks social networking is a fad. maybe it won't *always* be facebook running tings, but what's happened in the last few years is completely unlike myspace. people's parents are on facebook.

grandparents, even

there are a bunch of articles hinting that parents and grandparents being on facebook could be the thing that kills facebook.

history, i'm not sure he was saying that the idea of social networking sites per se are a fad; more just the current model for them.

nunez, that would make sense. is weird sharing about getting wasted and party pics that might be viewable by mom, grandma... unless getting wasted and partying happened with them.

I got pics of my abuela doing keg stands on New Year's Eve I simply can't post.

social networking existed long before Facebook/MySpace, for fuck's sake. It was nowhere near as embedded in our society but it's not like it started with Facebook. Social networking is here to stay. It's one of those things that once it comes out, will never be reverted by anything other than nuclear war.

i've tried to sign up for facebook but was instantly creeped out by it, i mean by how it straightaway demanded access to every trail of my internet activity

OTM. I get kinda pissed off whenever a web site nags me to log in with a Facebook/Twitter account

― Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 24 September 2010 23:29 (Yesterday)

The way in which social network sites make it easy and try to make it seem desirable to link with other such sites is kind of bothersome. People share way too much information about themselves this way, and I don't believe any such site ever warns its users that by interlinking it allows a whole bunch of people you don't know to gain a lot of knowledge about yourself quite easily. As an example, the other day, I got a flickr contract add from someone, I always check the profiles of the contacts I get in case it's someone I know IRL. In this case, there were some pics of this good-looking girl smoking a bowl and looking somewhat baked. There were also links to profiles on fb, twitter, deviant art and so on. I clicked the fb profile to check that it wasn't someone from, or linked to my friend list and there was the girls name and the town she lived in. This took me 2 mouse clicks, and I find this quite disturbing. On the one hand, people should be more thoughtful about what they choose to share, but I think all of these sites should at the very least warn their users that by interlinking all their social networks you are making personal information available to a wider and wider group of complete strangers, which will include a wider and wider circle of crepes, assholes etc. this is something about fb and other such sites that I really don't like.

nunez, that would make sense. is weird sharing about getting wasted and party pics that might be viewable by mom, grandma... unless getting wasted and partying happened with them.

― dude (del), Saturday, 25 September 2010 18:30 (22 minutes ago)

such things also are viewable by your fellow-workers, incl your boss, manager, HR department etc. The office staff at the old workplace were terrible for following the activities of other employees and ex-employees on FB. I was really glad I mis-spelles my surname on my (barely used) FB profile.

I have all three of course, it's not the Fourteenth Century.

yea, in the 14th century my ancestors only had Blackberries

mis-spelles

heh

i'm lucky that i've only ever worked in jobs where no one gave a shit about wasted party pictures (and to have taken on board way before fbook that only stuff i don't mind the whole world knowing about should go online). i probably wouldn't want parents etc following me online (which includes, like, message board posts in which i swear and stuff! they would soooo have words about it if they saw my twitter or indeed ilx history). but they're almost completely ignorant of the social side of the internet. worryingly this may have come to an end given that i received my first parental fbook friend request a couple of days ago - i have no intention of allowing this to happen, but am wondering whether to go with "oh i never use facebook any more" or just tell them straight up that it's a private space and they're not getting access to it.

There's no doubt in my mind that someone will eventually come up with a better model (both financially and on the user end) for Facebook and social networking. Hopefully sooner than later - I just hate how it is now, but I can see how there will be a social networking tool/experience I'll like someday, but for now I'm pretty much okay with old email, cell phones and instant messaging.

I could probably drop the cell phone if I really had to - I don't even text message, but the convenience of having it for meeting up with people would be hard to give up - but I love TV too much to stop watching completely. Between 720p rips and Netflix and DVDs and Hulu you don't even need to actually have a television to watch TV anymore.

YouTube has some pretty great cat videos too that have provided me with hours of entertainment

and music videos!!! no more sitting in front of a screen hoping MTV plays Eagle Eye Cherry

<3 YT for music and also cute animal vids which should come as no surprise.

I have a cell, FB and a TV and use all three regularly.

I don't really talk on my phone much and I'm another one of those ppl who has it on silent most of the time unless I'm expecting a call. I talk to my parents most days and my bf about once a week and that's about it. It's a Blackberry so I do use it for email and web stuff but mainly for job seeking purposes atm.

I love FB but wouldn't really care if it went away tomorrow. Many of my closest/oldest friends live far away and it's a good way of keeping in touch although I think it does make me contact some of them less because it feels like I know what's going on with them even when we haven't actually spoken or emailed in weeks.

Have TV. Watch about 3 or 4 shows each week on the reg but sometimes have it on just for background stuff. Probably watch about an hour or two a day on avg. Thought about getting rid of cable what with Hulu and Netflix etc. but I like having the choice of just flicking through to see what's on even if I don't do that very often.

I have all three BUT

have TV but no cable - TV is used just for DVDs and Wii.
have Facebook but blocked it from my home computers because of time suckage. So only use @ school.
Love cellphone

if i HAD to get rid of one, it would be TV ... mainly b/c i have little time for it these days plus the other two (cell and FB) are kinda important for my day-to-day and all that. it wouldn't be for pretentiousness purposes -- it would be b/c it wasn't worth the money and no other reason.

i don't watch tv channels but i have a tv for movies and games.
i have a facebook account although facebook kinda sucks and should be replaced by a better service.
no cellphone.

such things also are viewable by your fellow-workers, incl your boss, manager, HR department etc. The office staff at the old workplace were terrible for following the activities of other employees and ex-employees on FB.

Anyone who has work colleagues/bosses added to their facebook and/or makes public, unlocked posts on there, is an idiot imo.

One thing I expect to be doing till the day I die is napping in front of the TV. I'd do it on Saturday afternoons in the '70s to Curt Gowdy, now I do it most every day after work to Wolf Blitzer. TV + couch = zzzzzz. Nice feeling.

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phone - have a blackberry. invaluable. w/r/t the actual phone element, it's 90% texting, or phoning in a "hi i'm here where are you" sense. never been the kind of person to call someone just to talk. as per the other thread, my phone is always on silent and even if i notice it ringing i rarely answer it - if it's important people will text or email. i hate the way phone calls demand your attention NOW NOW NOW - it's like someone turning up unannounced at your door and DEMANDING TO TALK NOW regardless of what you're doing. there's something very primitive about it. caitlin moran, the british columnist, recently wrote something very funny about how it was no coincidence that the telephone was invented in an era when cocaine was available in high street chemists.

tv - we have one, in the living room. i watch it for 10 hours per day during wimbledon, and not at all otherwise, so effectively don't have one (if i was living by myself i wouldn't bother to acquire one). people who keep tvs in their BEDROOMS are disgusting savages imo.

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:43 AM (1 week ago)

you can't answer a fucking phone call but ppl who have TVs in their bedrooms are scumbags? xD

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(xp) i like facebook most of the time but i prefer twitter. however, i post things for a general audience on twitter, so facebook is my de facto private space for stuff i don't necessarily want to share with strangers or my parents.

the inverse of this is true for me! (except the first bit, i also prefer twitter.) many of my twitter friends are IRL ppl but i don't really tell anyone about my twitter account and i post there under a pseudonym. but also, some of my relatives are on FB and i'm friends with them, so.

meant to say "ppl i know IRL"

Is there such a thinkg as savages that aren't disguisting? Inoffensive savages?

charming savages

Lots of people wasting time and money on stuff they don't need ITT.

I have no TV. Wish there was no facebook. Cell is kind of useful I guess.

― Pashmina, Friday, 24 September 2010 22:10 (1 week ago)

"hi i'm here where are you" ugh. plan your life.

I love my cellphone! (iphone) I feel like it makes me more me. it is s cyborg relationship. lol / no srsly.

Most tv is total bs. fb keeps me in touch but w/o it I wld just send more emails/txts/call people and talk. bc having a cellphone is awesome.

A cellphone is useful and fun sure, but unless you have suddenly completely forgotten how you managed to stay alive throughout the 1990s and before, you certainly don't fucking NEED one.

I tell people I don't have a cell and they look at me like "how do you breathe?" or like I'm Rip Van Winkle strolling out of my magical hibernation cave.

I feel like it makes me more me.

another commodity successfully fetishisized...

i can do without all three, although take me telly away and you'll be taking my xbox too. and with it, your life.

I gave up my cellphone a few months ago. I can't think of an instance where I was completely damned without it.

I have become the annoying guy who gives out his Google Voice number to everyone where I can now listen to v/m and read texts at my computer.

they deluge me with stupid invites to stupid things, and fb feels like a swamp. hate it when friends insist on only communicating through fb messages

ding ding da-fuckin ding. signal to noise on FB is like .00000000001%

cellphone is kind of a necessity. tv is a nice thing to waste time with. fb seems kind of pointless to me

also, when I say my cellphone is a "necessity" I mean it's how my wife tells me we're out of cheese

Missed this poll, but I'd be one of the folks with no cellphone or Facebook. People act freaked out when I say I don't have a cellphone, but I'm not trying to make some big statement by it. Just strikes me as an expensive way to encourage people to bug me.

This is generational: I'm shocked there are more people without a TV than without Facebook. My mind has caught up with the world enough that more cellphones than TVs doesn't surprise me; more Facebook than TVs does.

if you guys were marlon brando rich and marlon brando crazy, which of these devices would you still end up operating and not delegate to a fleet of servants?

(marlon brando apparently hired a lady to buy infomercial crap he saw on the TV for him)

I would have no use for a cellphone if I didn't have a child