Best Horror Film of 1977 (part 13 of a series)

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
Suspiria 17
The Hills Have Eyes 6
Martin 5
House 2
Love Letters to a Portuguese Nun 2
Equus 2
Eaten Alive 1
Kingdom of the Spiders 1
Shock Waves 1
Demon Seed 1
Death Bed: The Bed That Eats 1
The Island of Dr. Moreau 1
The Car 1
Return to Boggy Creek 0
Rage 0
Orca 0
The Psychic 0
Whiskey Mountain 0
Ruby 0
Wanda, the Wicked Warden 0
Tintorera: Killer Shark 0
The Uncanny 0
The Shadow of Chikara 0
The Sentinel 0
Watch Me When I Kill 0
Terror of Frankenstein 0
Tentacles 0
Sisters of Death 0
The Pack 0
The Last House on Dead End Street 0
Audrey Rose 0
Beyond the Door II 0
The Child 0
The Crater Lake Monster 0
The Deep 0
The Demon Lover 0
Day of the Animals 0
Drive In Massacre 0
The Early Years 0
Emanuelle and the Last Cannibals 0
Empire of the Ants 0
Exorcist II: The Heretic 0
The Gestapo's Last Orgy 0
The Incredible Melting Man 0
Haunted 0
Last Cannibal World 0
Lisa, Lisa 0
Alice or the Last Escapade 0


Darin, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:00 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMkxVmLHIMk

lol @ dog w/ sunglasses (Pillbox), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

I really wanted to see this one when I was a kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc6pGJZ8Xd4

Darin, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

THE HILLS HAVE EYES

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

i mean i know there are going to be a lot of votes for suspiria, but THHE is just plain better.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

Death Bed: The Bed That Eats

waht

The majestic sounds of Skin Up (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qxdLCl46Nw

Hugo Stiglitz, a rich young man in search of romance & adventure (Pillbox), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

Pretty good year (Suspiria, Hills Have Eyes.) Probably not the best film on this list, but I'm a HUGE fan of Tobe Hooper's Texas Chainsaw followup, Eaten Alive. First saw it at the tail end of a drive-in multi-bill in 1978 and was transfixed by the garish, colorful lighting, cheap sets, atonal synth score, and Neville Brand's crazed performance. (Plus, Carolyn Jones and a very young Robert Englund.) It's kind of incoherent in places (post-production tampering?) but it drips loony atmosphere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah1THv686EY

Floyd Smoot Hawley Tariff (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Bed:_The_Bed_That_Eats

WAHT

The majestic sounds of Skin Up (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

FYI:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01l1WIC9mBo

Darin, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

When I worked at TLA Video in Philly The Car was easily in the top 5 out-of-print movies middle-aged guys asked to rent or purchase. Watched it when it was finally reissued and, yeah, I can see why it lingered in the brain.

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

I always thought "Equus" was supposed to be like deliberately funny and campy, and every time I share this opinion, I realize I am the only living human with that opinion.

17th Century Catholic Spain (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

No way Sidney Lumet and Richard Burton were in on that one.

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

The anguished picture of Jesus he was obsessed with is just too goofy!

17th Century Catholic Spain (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

Suspiria is way overrated. I prefer the absolutely loony, over-the-top Argento of Tenebre or Phenomenon, thanks.

Last House On The Left from this list for me.

Tub Girl Time Machine (Phil D.), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

Er, The Hills Have Eyes, rather. Sorry, Wes!

Tub Girl Time Machine (Phil D.), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFWea3Eu97E

definitely better than Christine, if not Duel

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

The Hills Have Eyes is maybe the most overrated horror movie of the '70s.

gay nerd fuel (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

And Suspiria is great.

So basically, reverse on Phil D.

gay nerd fuel (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

If Equus counts as a horror movie, I almost wanna say so does 3 Women.

gay nerd fuel (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

My vote may go to The Last House on Dead End Street.

gay nerd fuel (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

The Hills Have Eyes is maybe the most overrated horror movie of the '70s.

"Twenty five years I'm a cop in the worst goddamn precinct in Cleveland. N@##%&* shoot arrows at me. Hillbillies throw dogs off the roof at me. I'm even shot at by my own men. But none of these bastards have ever come as close to killing me as my own goddamn wife and her goddamn roadmaps and her wrong turns and her goddamn hysterical screaming!!!"

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

Why are they wasting they're time with remakes and sequels to the remakes when they should be filming a prequel about the asshole dad being attacked by arrows and falling dogs on the streets of cleveland.

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

wow the Car looks great. Death Bed sounds kinda like a mess but I am curious...

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

Hillbillies throwing dogs would be a great movie.

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

My "most overrated horror film of 1977" challop is easily Suspiria. It's not that I don't get it, I just don't get how you get through the parts between the parts that I get.

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

I enjoyed Tintorera, it's got some surprisingly good acting in it. Though the male characters respond a bit too casually to the fact that women in their vacation spot are getting eaten by tiger sharks one by one. I believe it was filmed in Cancún, btw.

Emmanuelle and the Last Cannibals is pretty outrageous - and is perhaps better known as Trap Them and Kill Them. Demon Seed starring Julie Christie is creepy & worthwhile.

Have to choose Suspiria, though... it's not really close for me.

Josefa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

Kingdom of the Spiders

I would just like to say that this movie is so, SO BAD. even by Shatner standards

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

voted Suspiria - the opening sequence at the airport alone is as perfect a fusion of image/sound/movement/colour as anything that the archers achieved

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

I never saw Demon Seed, but if it's as o_O as the novelization, it's probably worth a vote or two.

Unfrozen Caveman Board-Lawyer (WmC), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

No love for "Martin!?" It's between "Martin," "Hills Have Eyes" and "Suspiria" for me. It's sort of wild that a film like "Suspiria" can be even sillier than "Eyes," yet so, so cool. "Hills Have Eyes" falls under the category of b-movie that accidentally stumbles on some smart ideas (which is basically Craven's trade). "Martin," though, is so unique and near-genius that it transcends the mundane (to my memory) filmmaking. (Have fond childhood memories of "Moreau," too, and a chance screening of "Legend of Boggy Creek" gave me tons of nightmares around age five). But yeah man, the composition of "Suspiria," the score, the opening where she leaves the airport and heads straight into a gale ...

I mean, this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6zJGUUiG0c

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlW_UFUMgdI

The majestic sounds of Skin Up (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

haven't seen most of these but Martin and Suspiria are great (in very different ways). The Car is entertaining but nowhere near as good as Duel.

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

Would also like to lodge one nostalgic honorable mention for the campy fun of Drive In Massacre. The trailer is so bad it's like a Grindhouse-type homage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9eqvWQV4rI

Floyd Smoot Hawley Tariff (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

Voted Suspiria over The Hills Have Eyes.

I haven't seen it in many years, but I remember The Sentinel as enjoyably creepy.

Brad C., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)

House is Hausu, right? So tempted to vote for that, but... it has to be Suspiria, and death by pit of razor wire wished to all the haters. I don't find it scary (though I don't find many horror films scary), but it is far more beautiful than any other film on this list.

emil.y, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:32 (fifteen years ago)

that drive-in massacre trailer is great, cops really got the Mitchell vibe down

"I haven't picked up a knife since the carny closed!"

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:32 (fifteen years ago)

lol @ mispelled "Masacre" in trailer

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)

The Sentinel scared to death when I was a kid, I saw it again recently and, despite being a bit silly, it has at least one great scene.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)

prolly voting shock waves here

in no way are equus or the deep horror films

I want to see the 3 hour cut of last house on dead end street - the cuckoo clocks of hell

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:38 (fifteen years ago)

I haven't seen Equus, but The Deep was at least marketed as a horror film iirc

Darin, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)

Martin is really good, the opening sequence especially. But Suspiria is the best film here by a good distance

guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:42 (fifteen years ago)

I should have voted Martin, that I recently saw in its original version (the Argento-edited version released in Italy is awful).

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:43 (fifteen years ago)

I'm finding so many great old trailers on youtube!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ0U2dLqtag

As with much 70s horror, I saw Ruby when it was new, and not since. Low grade Exorcist ripoff that even Piper Laurie couldn't save, although I did like that much of it was set at a drive-in theater. Stuart Whitman was in this and Eaten Alive back to back.

Floyd Smoot Hawley Tariff (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:54 (fifteen years ago)

idk dudes, maybe i saw suspiria just way too late in life after mucho overhype, but ehh it has a couple of good moments in it but theres just so much weird boring pointless dreck in between that i cant really get fully behind it.

best soundtrack for sure tho

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:00 (fifteen years ago)

The Deep was at least marketed as a horror film iirc

mismarketed more like

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:02 (fifteen years ago)

note: by far the most hilariously bad movie on this list that i have seen is The Incredible Melting Man

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:03 (fifteen years ago)

From imdb:

Trivia:
The films Spanish title is Viscosidad, which means "Stickiness."

Goofs:
Factual errors: Saturn's rings are composed of icy debris. A spacecraft flying through them would more than likely be smashed apart long before a mysterious phenomenon could cause its crew to melt.

Quotes:
[it's lunch time at the Nelson home]
Dr. Ted Nelson:Steve escaped.
Judy Nelson:Oh God. What're you gonna do?
Dr. Ted Nelson:Uh... did you get some crackers? I told you yesterday that we needed some crackers.
Judy Nelson:Oh, I forgot. I knew there was something... Y'know there's uh, there's a pad right by the phone y'know, you could write it down too.
[she brings over his soup]
Judy Nelson:So what about Steve?
Dr. Ted Nelson:So, we don't have any crackers?
Judy Nelson:Ted. Steve?
Dr. Ted Nelson:Steve? I've got to go out and find Steve.

Sounds good to me.

emil.y, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:06 (fifteen years ago)

weird boring pointless dreck

It's the "weird" that sets boring pointless dreck of "Suspiria" over much of the above boring pointless dreck. That and style out the Italian equivalent of wazoo.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

When I was a kid my mom and I used to stay up late to proto-mst3k that movie (incredible melting dude) which was on constant late night rotation on one of the third tier broadcast networks here in MN. to this day thinking of the "It's......HIS EAR!" line gets me every time.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:11 (fifteen years ago)

I guess I'm gonna be the only one voting for the greatest underwater nazi zombie film ever made

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlgYDKZQk7s

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:16 (fifteen years ago)

I mean, zombie lake is like a far distant second

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:16 (fifteen years ago)

I actually bought the soundtrack to haunted in the late 70s because I liked the cover, have never seen the movie

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/20045.jpg

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

note: by far the most hilariously bad movie on this list that i have seen is The Incredible Melting Man

Basis for a truly sublime MST3K episode.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:30 (fifteen years ago)

Just watched that "Shock Waves" trailer. WTF, "the faster you run, the quicker you die"?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

would go with The Hills Have Eyes or Demon Seed (which is more crazy than horrifying) over Suspiria.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)

Just watched that "Shock Waves" trailer. WTF, "the faster you run, the quicker you die"?

I also loved The Incredible Melting Man's fantastic tagline: "Come prepared"

What does that even mean? Wear a wetsuit?

Darin, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

btw if you are a horror fan you NEED the new Resident Advisor podcast. It's by Alan Howarth, John Carpenter's frequent soundtrack collaborator. It is THE BUSINESS.

guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

Just watched that "Shock Waves" trailer. WTF, "the faster you run, the quicker you die"?

actually one of the plot points is the survivors barricade themselves and the claustrophobic guy who bolts gets it so for once this isn't just trailerbole

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:13 (fifteen years ago)

tho I guess it suggests that if two people were running, the faster one would die first?

ok I've already spent too much brain activity on this

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:14 (fifteen years ago)

also I hope you enjoy that word I just made up, it's pronounced trail-ER-bo-lee

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:16 (fifteen years ago)

"Trailerbole" is great . Also sounds like it could be an Argento movie.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:58 (fifteen years ago)

Is there a way to get that RA podcast without registering?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:59 (fifteen years ago)

"Demon Seed" is pretty damn weird and disconcerting. Last time I saw it I remember not being able to look at the baby/fetus/machine hybrid at the reveal at the end...

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:07 (fifteen years ago)

trailerbole = peak ILX achievement for 2010. we can just relax for the next couple months.

1978 looking like a damn fine year!

The Car - loved this at the time (i was 12 or 13) but barely remember it. must remedy.
The Deep - remember nothing about this but the poster
Death Bed: The Bed That Eats - title is so great that it'd be a shame to spoil it by watching the movie
Demon Seed - have only ever seen this on TV. was it a TV movie? interesting concept, but pretty dull.
Eaten Alive - need to see this
Emanuelle and the Last Cannibals - garbage
Equus - not a horror movie, made a very strong impression on me as a kid
Exorcist II: The Heretic - crazy ass flick, a total disaster, but kinda fascinating
The Hills Have Eyes - good, but not a personal favorite
The Incredible Melting Man - was obsessed w/ this movie as a kid, based on the name alone. turns out it's an awful turd, but rick baker's makeup effects are awesome.
Martin - romero's best (with NotLD), strong competition for suspiria
Shock Waves - has fans, but this movie bored me to death. should watch it again, cuz that was 20 years ago and i barely remember it. mostly i felt ripped off because the film did not live up to its infamous trailerbole: "you will see a man turned inside out!"
Suspiria - just the best <3<3<3
The Sentinel - spooky & sleazy, with great special makeup by dick smith

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 23:07 (fifteen years ago)

Eaten Alive was really disappointing, but predictably so, given its predecessor.

gay nerd fuel (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 23:14 (fifteen years ago)

that ra podcast is available on itunes

voted martin just barely over suspiria

balls, Thursday, 28 October 2010 00:09 (fifteen years ago)

Suspiria is the clear winner here...

The Porcupine Captain With A Crew of White Rabbits (Viceroy), Thursday, 28 October 2010 00:10 (fifteen years ago)

I saw "the incredible melting Man" on a double bill with "killer bees" (which was ZZzzzz) when I was I think 12 or 13. I had to lie about my age to get in the cinema as it was a AA cert. I fucking loved it, it was awesome recounting all the gory bits to the other kids at school the next day. All I can remember of it now is the devered head going over the waterfall and the titular character melting into a puddle of goo at the end. I'm tempted to vote for it for the nostalgia, but I'm sure if I saw it now, it would stink. I voted for "Demon Seed", it's really creepy, esp the bit where the kid opens its eyes at the end and the computer's voice says "I'm alive" freaked me the fuck out when I first saw it and still gave me a bit of a chill when I last saw it.

The most 0_o title I see on the list is "The Gestapo's last orgy"...uh....

Pashmina, Thursday, 28 October 2010 00:24 (fifteen years ago)

Suspiria by a mile.

Extremely hard for me to understand how anyone could enjoy Shock Waves or Eaten Alive. Boring garbage.

Hatch, Thursday, 28 October 2010 00:34 (fifteen years ago)

shock waves starts out slow, but it builds a quality sense of claustrophobia if you go with it. I find the zombies pretty creepy, they're not shambling bums, they're aggressive and violent. it's got a great burbling electronic score, and peter cushing chews the scenery but good. it's just a solid b-movie that doesn't get enough love.

but obviously you like your cheesy b-movies trolloped up with fancy cinematography so I'll forgive yr comments

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Thursday, 28 October 2010 01:12 (fifteen years ago)

who is this putz?

balls, Thursday, 28 October 2010 01:27 (fifteen years ago)

asks the guy named balls

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Thursday, 28 October 2010 01:40 (fifteen years ago)

clearly we were meant to be together

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Thursday, 28 October 2010 01:41 (fifteen years ago)

Death Bed in a walk imho

Chabrol's 'Alice' - 'Emanuelle in Wonderland,' pretty much - is horror only if you also want to consider 'Valerie' and Malle's 'Black Moon' genre items. I think it's a stretch.

In a year without 'Suspiria', i might have gone for 'Beyond the Door II,' Mario Bava's swan song. Walks the line between paraphiliac taboo and nerve-rattling demons-of-the-mind terrors as adroitly as any of his films.

The Child - always found this one extremely unsettling. Like 'Messiah of Evil,' atmosphere carries the day.

'The Deep' is an adventure film.

Not much to 'The Demon Lover', but the makingof, 'Demon Lover Diaries' is absolutely fascinating.

I can't imagine the '70s without 'Day of the Animals'.

'Death Bed,' incredibly, lives up to it's title. Singularly weird film.

'Eaten Alive' hate makes me sad. Great TCM follow-up, much misunderstood

'Emanuelle' my least fave of Italo cannibal romps. Prefer 'Last Cannibal World' (Jungle Holocaust) to CH. Not as edgy, but a riveting and very well-made movie.

'Equus?' c'mon.

'Exorcist II' IS fascinating.

never cared for THHE but love TIMM to the bone.

TLHODES. We will never see the 3 hr cut. Get over it. What remains is harrowing sickness in it's undiluted, queasiest form. So quietly influential, yet the original still packs a massive punch. Watkins couldn't possibly have had any idea what evils he and his buddies would loose upon cinema with their druggy weekend romp

'The Pack' is quite possibly the only mutt massacre movie (this side of 'Cujo') that isn't a total dog.

Fulci's 'The Psychic' - AKA Six Notes in Black - is an elegant giallo. alienated fans of his gorier escapades, but stands with his 'Duckling' and 'Lizard' IMHO among the form's finest hours.

GD you, 'Suspira,' for stealing my vote from 'Martin.'

Harrington disowns 'Ruby,' but I love this loopy trifle.

Not Bido's best (that would be 'The Bloodstained Shadow'), but 'Watch Me When I Kill' is still a solid giallo.

Michael Winner was a strange fellow.

babytown frolics (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 28 October 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

Ah, thanks for that mister HJ, puts a lot of unfamiliar names into context for me. Also, nice Messiah of Evil ref, watched that recently and really enjoyed it (although it did almost start a fight about whether it was okay that it was called 'Messiah of Evil' when it did not feature a messiah of evil).

emil.y, Thursday, 28 October 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

TLHODES. We will never see the 3 hr cut. Get over it.

I will not! it's like the andrei rublev of grindhouse, there's gotta be a print hidden under somebody's mattress in some rat-infested NYC hovel somewhere...

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Thursday, 28 October 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

if Barrel couldn't find it, with Watkins' full support and assistance, it seems bloody unlikely that anyone ever will. we should just be grateful for what they were able to preserve. let's not be greedy, now.

babytown frolics (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 28 October 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

'sides, 'Philosophy of a Knife' is the 'Andrei Rublev' of grindhouse. take that as you will.

babytown frolics (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 28 October 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

hey, an early version of cassavetes' shadows was lost on a NYC subway train in the 60s and found in a florida attic 40 years later. what are the odds of that?

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Thursday, 28 October 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

Extremely hard for me to understand how anyone could enjoy Shock Waves or Eaten Alive.

Tobe Hooper brought in his Chainsaw cohort Kim Henkel to salvage a troubled production (look up how many titles Eaten Alive was released under) and it doesn't all gel. But seeing it years ago at a drive-in, knowing nothing of its lineage, it was anything but boring. Neville Brand's nutso hotelier, shuffling around muttering "ol' croc didn't mean no harm, it's all accordin' to the instincts..." is one of my favorite (seemingly improvised?) horror performances ever.

If the dreamlike quality of this image:
http://www.dvdactive.com/images/reviews/screenshot/2006/10/eaten_alive4_copy0.jpg doesn't get you (who the HELL would stay here?) and the insane electronic banging of the intro:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6LN0VF0RDM

doesn't pull you in, then I dunno...

Floyd Smoot Hawley Tariff (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 28 October 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

Knew I'd botch that. Here's the score:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6LN0VF0RDM

Floyd Smoot Hawley Tariff (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 28 October 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

let me help you with your img problems

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/eaten_alive4_copy0.jpg

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Thursday, 28 October 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

Wow, I just started watching a bit of the original "Legend of Boggy Creek," and while the primordial recesses of my mind recognize, jeez is it boring. It's like a surreally bad foreshadowing of Terrance Malick: five minutes of nature shots, then a kid running through tall grass for two minutes, then the kid telling someone he saw something in the woods, then the kid running back through the tall grass. And then it gets around to the titles!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

This movie sucks, but its faux-documentary style is I suppose ahead of its it time, for horror. Or "horror."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

If Day of the Animals inspired the cinema of my beloved Damon Packard in any way, then it deserves a vote here. But that's the only positive thing I can say about a film that even Michael Weldon hated (which is really saying something!).

And how anyone can get through Shock Waves without drugs and/or talking with friends all throughout is beyond me.

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

what can I say, one man's boring is another man's atmospheric? I like a lot of glacially paced 70s movies, anything from aguirre wrath of god to phase IV.

harryhausen said the secret to creating a great monster isn't by imagining it terrorizing people, but by imagining what it does when it's alone, imbuing the monster with some kind of inner life. shock waves spends some quality time with its monsters. there's a surreal hypnotic beauty in the footage of nazis strolling around on the ocean floor, or the sequence when they trash the mansion. in one scene the zombies gang up on a guy in an empty pool, and it's played very realistically, there's no quick cutting or hyping the moment, just this matter-of-fact presentation of four silent people focused on killing another person, I find it chilling.

if you go with the flow shock waves can creep you out, but if you're staring at yr watch and drumming yr fingers its effects will most likely be lost on you.

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

phase IV

this movie is a goddamned masterpiece

Great Goulessarian! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:08 (fifteen years ago)

yes!

and not to harp on this point, but while suspiria has a lot going for it - beautifully shot, exquisite set design, incredible score - it also has some terrible acting, atrocious dubbing, absurd choreography during kill scenes, and a plot that veers between rote and total nonsense. it's amateurish in its own way, just like "trash" such as shock waves, last house on dead end street, and the hills have eyes. just like those films, suspiria is effective in bringing the creeps in spite of mechanical deficiencies.

that's why I get twitchy when people rep for suspiria as some unquestionable high point of horror and snub other stuff as "boring garbage". it involves overlooking glaring aesthetic problems in order to enjoy the sensuous terrors of a glitzy surface, while discounting the value of films that provide the same experience in a more direct (and grubbier) way. for me it's the difference between dark side of the moon and never mind the bollocks, you should be able to support either of them without trashing the other. unless you're johnny rotten.

sorry if I'm reading into stuff here but that's the way it strikes me.

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:13 (fifteen years ago)

Holy shit - Saul Bass directed Phase IV! I had no idea this movie even existed. Sounds v. cool

Darin, Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)

thing you maybe forget about never mind the bollocks is that it was a completely and very successfully pop record. super catchy tunes, colorful characters, jokes, keeps the shiny objects in rapid motion. in that, it's more like evil dead II (or planet terror!) than shock waves. shock waves is a bar band covering pentagram.

xpost

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)

Ok pretend I said drunks with guns instead of sex pistols

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

yeah okay, that works. love drunks with guns. will rewatch shock waves and pretend they are all doskocil.

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Thursday, 28 October 2010 23:14 (fifteen years ago)

lol they stumble around as much as he did

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Friday, 29 October 2010 00:07 (fifteen years ago)

lol @ Emanuelle and the Last Cannibals

Any UK Ilxors see BBC Four's History of Horror. Really awful, not only bcz it neglects Italian horror.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 October 2010 08:23 (fifteen years ago)

suspiria is a symbol of 1977 besides punk rock so yeah, no contest.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 30 October 2010 22:14 (fifteen years ago)

I've actually seen Death Bed! It's very...self-serious.

Simon H., Saturday, 30 October 2010 23:00 (fifteen years ago)

Nearly missed this but made it in time to vote for Martin. I'm cheating my own rules really cos I question whether it's a Horror flick but I love it too much not to give it the vote.

Uncharted: Nick Drake's Fortune (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 October 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

ok it's time to vote and I'm torn between shock waves and the last house on dead end street

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Sunday, 31 October 2010 18:05 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 1 November 2010 00:01 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 00:01 (fifteen years ago)

The right film won. These polls are much better when Cronenberg isn't part of the discussion. (Wait, why wasn't Rabid an option here?)

gay nerd fuel (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 00:03 (fifteen years ago)

Sorry, Rage is the alternate title of Rabid. I meant to correct that.

Darin, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 01:06 (fifteen years ago)

Oops, I missed that too.

gay nerd fuel (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 01:08 (fifteen years ago)

ha to think i thought this might be close

balls, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 01:52 (fifteen years ago)

no votes for LHODES, after all that, makes me kinda sad. but you can't F with the rightful winner.

babytown frolics (Mr. Hal Jam), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 02:19 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, I hedged my bets and voted Suspiria. Comments had me thinking Hills was set to spoil.

gay nerd fuel (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 02:30 (fifteen years ago)

what can I say, one man's boring is another man's atmospheric? I like a lot of glacially paced 70s movies, anything from aguirre wrath of god to phase IV.

That was a great post, edward iii. I guess it's just a matter of payoff for me. Observing how monsters hang when they're not out marauding just isn't enough for me to keep watching (or to watch again) although I recognize it as important to the effect of horror (although I don't know how one would defend Day of the Animals along these lines; couldn't we just go to the zoo instead?). Whereas Some Call It Loving, Jeanne Dielman, Kings of the Road, The Driller Killer, etc. are all glacially paced 70s movies that might make Shock Waves feel like a roller coaster. But their payoffs are much deeper, more complex, and varied in my experience.

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 02:31 (fifteen years ago)

I'm not gonna say that shock waves is some deep cinematic experience. it's just a solid and unique b-movie. there's an unhurried, methodical rhythm to shock waves - as if the zombies themselves are controlling the pace of events. I have to admit I find the stock characters kind of charming. carradine's great as the crusty ole sea captain and, speaking of glacially paced 70s films, after shock waves brooke adams went on to days of heaven (and then invasion of the body snatchers!).

though now I'm disappointed that last house on dead end street got 0 votes. c'mon eric we gotta rep for the little films cause no one else will! the top 3 in the resulting order were a given, I thought.

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 02:59 (fifteen years ago)

amazing underwater photography for 16mm too

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 03:13 (fifteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

so hausu/house is great, but also a wee bit creepy what with ogling & wasting nubile schoolgirls being the entire point. it's great, maybe even suspiria-great, but people tend to dance around the fetish aspect when recommending it.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Sunday, 21 November 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)

That horror movies deal in fetishes is sort of a given, innit?

Miss Garrote (Eric H.), Monday, 22 November 2010 02:09 (fifteen years ago)

four months pass...

i would've voted for Martin. romero's best non-Dead movie and his second or third best movie overall.

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 7 April 2011 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

just re-watched Suspiria recently. great just for the sets and soundtracks alone (also Udo Kier bit role!) was a double-header with Inception and um... well Suspiria is much better.

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 April 2011 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

I really think that both the set design and soundtrack for suspiria are all-time. I mean, look at these images:

http://ilovecatparty.blogspot.com/2011/03/suspira-interiors.html

original bgm, Thursday, 7 April 2011 17:53 (fourteen years ago)

the story is fairly silly, tho. but it's fun.

original bgm, Thursday, 7 April 2011 17:54 (fourteen years ago)

Can i just say that the new Region B (only) Blu-ray looks amazing and - more importantly - sounds unreal. Color levels were apparently fiddled with, to the chagrin of many purists. I didn't have a problem with it. The whites are scorching, the blacks fathomless, the primaries bolder than ever. It's truly like seeing and hearing the film again for the first time. can't wait to see what BU did with 'Inferno'.

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:58 (fourteen years ago)

man if i had this to do over i would have def voted house/hausa

broke my o_O face o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:15 (fourteen years ago)

five years pass...

finally finished the OG The Hills Have Eyes. previously I watched it in my early 20s where I was less into 70s gritty exploitation horror.

loved it, but it wasn't an 'enjoying' love as much as horrified fascination.

kinda wonder what Craven mighta come up with if he stayed in this lane (Last House on the Left, etc) instead of going the more big budget route.

Neanderthal, Friday, 28 October 2016 13:32 (nine years ago)

Papa Jupiter's appearance at the gas station window is up there with Leatherface's sliding metal door in TCM in great 70s horror moments imo.

Their all losers and I like associating with loser (Dan Peterson), Friday, 28 October 2016 14:29 (nine years ago)

one year passes...

Messiah of Evil is pretty great, and very impressively directed, but yeah, that title is false advertising.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 16:12 (seven years ago)

I wish I could find a copy of the Car.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 16:15 (seven years ago)

I strongly suspect "The Gestapo's Last Orgy" had a budget somewhere south of $75,000, even though I've never seen or heard of it before this moment.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 20:17 (seven years ago)

Nice Blu-Ray of The Car available from Arrow. Bonus - includes a notoriously awful commentary track conducted by a former ilxor

https://arrowfilms.com/product-detail/the-car-blu-ray/FCD856

Thought this revive might be about the new Suspiria trailer

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 20:56 (seven years ago)

I'm not in the habit of buying things sight unseen... at the same time I know I am that rare dinosaur who actually rents things from a video store

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 20:57 (seven years ago)

Challops, surely, but I don't think Suspiria even makes it into my top three horror movies from '77.

Buttholt Brecht (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:36 (seven years ago)

I probably should have revived the 1973 thread tbh. Without looking it up I’d say The Gestapo’s Last Orgy has a high probability of being directed by Jess Franco.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:39 (seven years ago)

From Wikipedia: "... produced, directed and co-written by Cesare Canevari. It stars Adriano Micantoni (billed as Marc Loud) and Daniela Poggi (billed as Daniela Levy)." As might be expected, it's basically a porn movie, not really in the horror genre. Made in Italy, w/ dialogue in Italian.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 7 June 2018 00:21 (seven years ago)

Tbf italian porn is p horrifying

Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 June 2018 02:30 (seven years ago)

Franco had nothing to do w/ Gestapo's Last Orgy, and it's not 'basically a porn movie' - obviously it's a supremely tasteless piece of trash, but there's no explicit sex as such. There were quite a few of these nasty Nazi 70s Euro exploitation movies that mashed up different genres - the women-in-prison movie (to which Franco did make a significant contribution), the 'erotic' fascist sadism fad (eg The Night Porter and Salo), giallo the Italian cannibal movie, and of course the horror film. See also: Love Camp 7, The Beast in Heat, SS Experiment Camp, the Ilsa movies etc. Gestapo's Last Orgy is now mainly remembered for being one of the prosecuted video nasties in the UK.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 7 June 2018 07:56 (seven years ago)

seven months pass...

Rewatched the original Suspiria tonight. It's a real shame it didn't have a better script to match the visuals and soundtrack, otherwise it could be right up there in my favourite horrors.

Your dad's Carlos Boozer and you keep him alive (fionnland), Sunday, 13 January 2019 20:47 (seven years ago)


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