ITT, ancient RUINS, ruined cities, oh look on my works, ye mighty and despair!

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No, not modern industrial decay (though that, indeed, is beautiful in its own way)

ANCIENT ruins. Also encompassing Medieval, Pre-Columbian and, erm, ruined jungle temples covered in creeping vines or overgrown cathedrals from the Dissolution of the Monasteries and these kinds of things from all around the world.

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 11:46 (fifteen years ago)

Basically inspired by this picture of the castle of Clonmacnoise

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Clonmacnoise_castle_and_cattle.jpg

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 11:46 (fifteen years ago)

That's just fucking weird, how did that even work as a structure in the first place?

Matt DC, Monday, 15 November 2010 11:48 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/runmdc/4009931388/in/set-72157622579975856/

This is in the middle of Paphos in Cyprus, I was there last year and you can't see it from the street at all, but it's huge and immersive once you're wandering round it.

Matt DC, Monday, 15 November 2010 11:51 (fifteen years ago)

I'm assuming that some kind of erosion (Ireland is a very rainy country after all) contributed to the current higgledy piggledy-ness.

http://essentialscafe.com/forums/storage/24/16997/cornwall-030.jpg

^^^^^not actually ruined (currently a middle eastern restaurant, I believe) but still in a similar "how does that even work, architecturally?" state of construction.

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 11:51 (fifteen years ago)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3662/3325980670_12c02f038c.jpg

Mark G, Monday, 15 November 2010 11:52 (fifteen years ago)

Looking at this kind of thing makes me so happy (is that what the romantics called "confronting the SUBLIME?")

http://www.kiriticalmass.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Jumieres2-600x450.jpg

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 11:53 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.speckledgoat.co.uk/archives/corfe%20castle.jpg

Corfe Castle in Dorset is pretty awesome, you can see it towering over the whole village underneath.

Matt DC, Monday, 15 November 2010 11:55 (fifteen years ago)

Staying true to my screen name, I do LOVE a good wheal... (not actually ancient per se, but still lovely and ruined looking)

http://www.geevor.com/media/images/Cornish%20Mining/A7%20Wheal%20Coates%20pumping%20engine%20house.jpg

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 11:56 (fifteen years ago)

AH YES, the original sublime...

http://www.historyfish.net/images/abbeys/british_isles/n_tintern_abbey2.jpg

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 11:57 (fifteen years ago)

And while we're on treeroots swallowing buildings, let's have some Angkor Wat while we're at it, eh?

http://www.images-photography-pictures.net/Angkor-Wat-Cambodia-Siem-Reap-Hrtfried-Schmid.jpg

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 12:00 (fifteen years ago)

GIS "cow ruins" and some nice ones come up. Apparently Ireland has a lot of ruins. And cows.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2392/2210666732_fbffa8887a_z.jpg

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 12:07 (fifteen years ago)

Apparently, it's a "thing", cows and ruins. Here is a cow on Glastonbury Tor!

http://bathdailyphoto.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/060929040somsetglastonburytorst-michaelstower14thcpilgrimage.jpg

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 12:08 (fifteen years ago)

Cows in Stonehenge! I win!

http://stonehengecollectables.com/albums/Cows1969/cows69_f.sized.jpg

Avebury, unfortunately, can only offer me sheep.

http://ivyhousemarlborough.com/wp-content/gallery/offers/avebury-sheep-small.jpg

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 12:10 (fifteen years ago)

The cows can go right up to the top of Glastonbury Tor, I remember thinking that was weird when I was up there.

Matt DC, Monday, 15 November 2010 12:11 (fifteen years ago)

Why waste good grazing land because it's got a few old stones on it? It's a small island!

Whitby Abbey, with cows:

http://www.oldukphotos.com/graphics/England%20Photos/Yorkshire,%20Whitby%20Abbey%20III%201900%27s.jpg

And without:

http://www.sonofyork.com/images/Northern%20England/Whitby%20Abbey.jpg

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 12:14 (fifteen years ago)

It's more that it's weird because it's a very steep hill...

Matt DC, Monday, 15 November 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

They must have imported Scottish climbing coos. Or interbred them with Italian Ninja Goats. Or perhaps they have one set of legs shorter than the other, like Haggisses. (Haggi? What is the plural of Haggis?)

Blimey, why are photos of Whitby Abbey all so HUUUUUUUGE? Coz goths all have massive cameras?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Whitby_Abbey_image.jpg

I should go to Whitby one of these years. I think I'd like it. Full of goths or no.

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 12:17 (fifteen years ago)

Ruins on Iona!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nBZ_zzmArEQ/TJOFi1i9boI/AAAAAAAAAMc/WeQx0mQes0M/s1600/iona_nunnery_sm.jpg

Unfortunately only sheep, not coos. I don't think the Isle of Iona is big enough to fit a coo.

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 12:28 (fifteen years ago)

we have lots of cows and ruins both, no denying it.

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Monday, 15 November 2010 12:30 (fifteen years ago)

I feel I am perhaps being unfairly slanted towards British and Irish ruins.

Here are some Roman ruins

http://www.theodora.com/wfb/photos/syria/ancient_roman_ruins_aphamia_syria_photo_gov.jpg

http://www.seewald.com/images/Israel/RomanRuinsCaesaria2.jpg

I need to do some actual work, and then I am going to come back and post some ancient Egyptian ruins, I think.

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 12:37 (fifteen years ago)

pfft egypt what've they got?

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Monday, 15 November 2010 12:41 (fifteen years ago)

Well stop complaining and start posting some ruins, dammit.

I think this was the thread I was thinking of. Lots of nice ruins, and some operative castles, too!

Castles: C or D

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 12:42 (fifteen years ago)

some quality ruins up at my alma mater:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/St_Andrews_Cathedral_Ruins_Front.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3544/3306023486_cfd378121f.jpg

xtc ep, etc (xp) (ledge), Monday, 15 November 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39SjyMvBbk4

caek, Monday, 15 November 2010 12:47 (fifteen years ago)

I have so many ruins! But they're all at home as ACTUAL PHOTOGRAPHS therefore I cannot post them here.

I've got ten bucks. SURPRISE ME. (Laurel), Monday, 15 November 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

Can you google pics you did not take?

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

The Palamidi Fortress at Nafplion, Greece

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/Palamidi_castle.jpg

What you can't see, is that the ENTIRE THING looks like this inside:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Navplio_Palamidi-Treppe.jpg

...and apparently there's only one, maybe two routes that lead to the top of the fort. All others are FALSE, FALSE PATHS.

I've got ten bucks. SURPRISE ME. (Laurel), Monday, 15 November 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

I think I've broken into that! Interrailing many many years ago, staying briefly at Nafplion, I can't remember where we were walking to or from but that was pretty much in the middle so we decided to visit it en route. Unfortunately when we got there it had closed for the afternoon, and going back down and all the way around would have taken far too long, so we hopped off the steps, scrambled up the bank and climbed up a wall, could even have been the one where mr white t-shirt is standing in the first pic. Went through the deserted fort and climbed out the other side.

xtc ep, etc (xp) (ledge), Monday, 15 November 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

It's excellent! I didn't get to stay there NEARLY long enough, plus it overlooks the blue, blue sea so the view from every way is spectacular.

Ruined Philippi:

http://www.kairos-holidays.com/images/phillipi2.jpg

I was there on such a wet, foggy day -- you could hardly see the tops of the columns for the fog, much less more than 15 feet in front of you. At the time I was sorry it wasn't more view-able but now what I remember is the atmosphere and how much the lack of visibility isolated you everywhere you went.

I've got ten bucks. SURPRISE ME. (Laurel), Monday, 15 November 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

Time to break out some old avebury photos

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/218/488961674_8da453119f.jpg

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 15 November 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

Not actually the Abbey I was looking for, but it will do...

http://people.brunel.ac.uk/~hsstnns/pictures/Yorkshire/fa1.jpg

(I can't remember the name of it, a country house built by a mad English nobleman (weren't they all?) which was supposed to be a picturesque half-ruined folly, but the tower was designed so badly that it fell down and rendered the whole house an actual ruin before the 19th Century was over. Oh what was its name, what am I thinking of?)

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

It was in Wiltshire! My ex had a stone head from it. Dammit, brain, why can't you remember things?

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

I know the one you're thinking of but not so as Ic an remember the name.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 15 November 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.francethisway.com/images/places/chateau-gaillard.jpg

Château Gaillard

Dis-moi ce que tu manges, je te dirai ce que tu es. (Michael White), Monday, 15 November 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

http://justenglishcottages.com/photogalleries/north-yorkshire/zim/Fountains-Abbey/92FountainsAbbey.jpg

Fountains Abbey

Dis-moi ce que tu manges, je te dirai ce que tu es. (Michael White), Monday, 15 November 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

Can we post non ANCIENT things here? Like menacing Nazi fortifications on the channel islands...

http://alex.fortif.net/images/ostrovy/r001-032.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/f13x0.jpg

xtc ep, etc (xp) (ledge), Monday, 15 November 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.outremer.co.uk/images/tower/krak.jpg

Krak des Chevaliers

Dis-moi ce que tu manges, je te dirai ce que tu es. (Michael White), Monday, 15 November 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

I do actually really love ruined WWII fortifications, so if they are properly abandonned and ruined I will allow them.

(What I don't want, is loads of decaying industrial factories and the like. Those have their own thread, I believe. I want castles and forts and abbeys and mysterious arrangements of rocks that you can't quite tell what they ever were.)

((Also, follies, though not technically ancient, are cool enough to be allowed))

http://www.yourlocalweb.co.uk/images/pictures/02/82/mow-cop-folly-27458.jpg

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

Better photos here:

http://www.mowcop.com/

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

I don't know if this napoleonic fort fits with the above criteria, but it was heading that way, being somewhat on fire when we passed it

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2246/1880122176_327d9c73ae.jpg

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 15 November 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

It wasn't on fire, they were just burning junk in the central courtyard, IIRC. What a weird place that was! I was trying to remember where the odd fort-like folly (?) along the coast towards the Needles was, but got distracted by work.

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 16:31 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.jacklondonpark.com/WolfHouse3-1.JPG

Jack London's Wolf House

Dis-moi ce que tu manges, je te dirai ce que tu es. (Michael White), Monday, 15 November 2010 16:46 (fifteen years ago)

Wow! What are those odd fireplaces that seem to be suspended in mid air? Were there presumably another story or two in wood that is now gone?

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah. He and his wife built their dream house

http://www.fineartandhistory.com/images/wolfhouse-bw.jpg

And several weeks before they were to move in, it burned.

Dis-moi ce que tu manges, je te dirai ce que tu es. (Michael White), Monday, 15 November 2010 16:52 (fifteen years ago)

SOUTHWEST REPREZENT!

Rhyolite, Nevada

http://photos.igougo.com/images/p7274-Rhyolite-Cook_Bank.jpg

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 15 November 2010 17:30 (fifteen years ago)

Cliff Palace, Mesa Verde

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Mesa_verde_cliff_palace_close.jpg

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 15 November 2010 17:31 (fifteen years ago)

Chaco Canyon, New Mexico

http://planetpooks.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/chaco-canyon.jpg

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 15 November 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)

Canyon de Chelly

http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2003/canyon_de_chelly_2003/images/4.jpg

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 15 November 2010 17:38 (fifteen years ago)

Nazca, Peru

http://westcoastconnection.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/nazca-lines1.gif

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 15 November 2010 17:38 (fifteen years ago)

Those cliff dwellings are the BIZNIZZ. I was hoping for strange stuff I hadn't seen before and those are amazing. That last one with the two gaping caves on either side is almost lovecraftian.

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 17:40 (fifteen years ago)

It may not look like much, but here's the Lost City Of Ubar

http://www.davestravelcorner.com/photos/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Oman-Ubar.JPG

The story of its rediscovery is pretty amazing and is like a roundup of everything I find cool: lost cities, the space shuttle, ancient roadways, and desert road tripping. If drone rock fit into it somehow I'd completely lose it.

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 15 November 2010 17:42 (fifteen years ago)

Tenochtitlan

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Ruins_of_Tenochtitlan.JPG

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 15 November 2010 17:45 (fifteen years ago)

Machu Picchu

http://onearthtravel.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/machu-picchu.jpg

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 15 November 2010 17:47 (fifteen years ago)

Serpent Mound, Ohio

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2DP3vFOI5tc/SPr7KZL4tzI/AAAAAAAABtw/jt-tAqHeW-A/s400/serpentmoundpc.jpg

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 15 November 2010 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

The architecture is so different from what I'm used to. Like they're building these massive structures and not even using arches. So strange looking and beautiful. (My archetypical idea of "ruins" clearly involves massive pointy gothic arches because I'm used to medieval Euro stuff.)

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

Pueblo Bonito, Chaco Canyon (can't stress how U&K a visit to Chaco Canyon is... there's a reason why Sagan put in Cosmos)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/Chaco_Canyon_Pueblo_Bonito_doorways_NPS.jpg

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 15 November 2010 17:51 (fifteen years ago)

Chaco canyon is all the more intriguing because there's every indication it was not inhabited.

Dis-moi ce que tu manges, je te dirai ce que tu es. (Michael White), Monday, 15 November 2010 17:58 (fifteen years ago)

Blythe Intaglios. Nazca isn't the only place where there are ancient geoglyphs. There's about 200 of these along the Colorado River in California and Arizona

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3111/3140812745_3c6c9c9ea9.jpg

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 15 November 2010 17:58 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.culturefocus.com/syria/pictures/palmyra-6small.jpg

Palmyra

Dis-moi ce que tu manges, je te dirai ce que tu es. (Michael White), Monday, 15 November 2010 18:00 (fifteen years ago)

Palenque

http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles/a101_Palenque1.jpg

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 15 November 2010 18:01 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.naturephoto-cz.eu/photos/sevcik/palenque-mayan-ruins--mayan-ruins-1.jpg

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 15 November 2010 18:02 (fifteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_tt5Fzuyo1nc/SB4L64QSJkI/AAAAAAAAFZQ/YLV0lcZgjns/s640/image1-12.jpg

Persepolis

Dis-moi ce que tu manges, je te dirai ce que tu es. (Michael White), Monday, 15 November 2010 18:03 (fifteen years ago)

Ephesus, Turkey

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/00/1b/2e/e4/celso-s-library-ephesus.jpg

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 15 November 2010 18:03 (fifteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/160/348306257_19eb35196e.jpg

glengarry glenn danzig (latebloomer), Monday, 15 November 2010 18:04 (fifteen years ago)

Had to google Palenque, coz yr first link didn't show, but is this the one, with the crazy vaguely pagoda shaped tower?

http://www.crystalinks.com/palenque.jpg

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 18:04 (fifteen years ago)

All Hail Chichen Itza

http://desktopnature.com/4271-2/Ancient+Mayan+Ruins_+Chichen+Itza_+Mexico.jpg

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 15 November 2010 18:05 (fifteen years ago)

Had to google Palenque, coz yr first link didn't show, but is this the one, with the crazy vaguely pagoda shaped tower?

That's it. Palenque is pretty much o_O for off-the-charts Mayan architecture.

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 15 November 2010 18:07 (fifteen years ago)

http://static.atlasobscura.com/images/place/michigan-central-station.10446.large_slideshow.jpg

Michigan Central Station

Dis-moi ce que tu manges, je te dirai ce que tu es. (Michael White), Monday, 15 November 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.doobybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/michigan-central-station-jeremy-blakeslee.jpg

MCS FAT

JIMMY MOD THE SACK MASTER (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 15 November 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)

This is all reminding me of one of my little obsessions... GOBEKLI TEPE!!!

http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/Images/countries/Turkish%20pics/Gobeklitemple.jpg

Which might well be (if some historians are to be believed) the place where agriculture and, well, civilization as we know it (t.m.) or at least agriculture was invented!

x-posts NO NO NO NO NO, that's exactly the sort of thing I don't want. ANCIENT, I SAID ANCIENT.

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 18:12 (fifteen years ago)

Gobekli Tepe and Jericho and such are really fascinating.

Dis-moi ce que tu manges, je te dirai ce que tu es. (Michael White), Monday, 15 November 2010 18:14 (fifteen years ago)

xpost Jimmy, Shut the front door, that is amazing!
Can you go in there?

That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 15 November 2010 18:14 (fifteen years ago)

Yes, I'm sure it's amazing, but it's not a RUIN, it's an abandonned building. Not the same thing at all, and out of the remit of this thread. Pls don't ruin (ha) my beautiful ruin thread.

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

There was a cool video story on Vice mag's website about Detroit, touring this rundown old theater that was massive inside... I can't think of the name

That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 15 November 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

Oops. Sorry.

That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 15 November 2010 18:17 (fifteen years ago)

We could have some of Heinrich Schliemann's Troy, mind you...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1431/565852078_aeb2a6de49.jpg

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 18:17 (fifteen years ago)

And Jericho's walls...

http://www.howardbloom.net/jericho_wall_color2.jpg

http://www.howardbloom.net/jericho_walls_b&w.jpg

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

http://img1.photographersdirect.com/img/9915/wm/pd71831.jpg

Great Zimbabwe

Dis-moi ce que tu manges, je te dirai ce que tu es. (Michael White), Monday, 15 November 2010 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

Has anyone posted Petra yet?

http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/13735/_dsc3273-petra-web.jpg

Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

the castle that sprung my family line, mayhaps? this is all my grandmother could surmise after extensive research. Turner painted it at some point.

http://www.enchantedtowy.co.uk/Dynevor-Castle-1.gif

Honey, I squirted jizz all over the baby (the table is the table), Monday, 15 November 2010 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3597/3579570074_3904150827.jpg

Ctesiphon

Dis-moi ce que tu manges, je te dirai ce que tu es. (Michael White), Monday, 15 November 2010 18:23 (fifteen years ago)

http://projectsx.dartmouth.edu/classics/history/bronze_age/full/17-10.jpg

Akrotiri, Santorini

Dis-moi ce que tu manges, je te dirai ce que tu es. (Michael White), Monday, 15 November 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

The southern borderlands here between England & Wales (where the river Wye is the natural border) contain some utterly remarkable ruins. The comprehensive societal smash of the 11th century is felt all over in this landscape, as nothing says 'we welcome our new religious & cultural overlords' like a fuck-off massive castle, followed by a fuck-off massive abbey, built with carboniferous limestone from the fuck-off massive cliffs.
This is the ruined church of St James, built by monks & still used as a place of Christian worship until 1860 or so, despite it's remote & tricky position at a loop in the river at the bottom of the cliffs.
http://www.roughwood.net/ChurchAlbum/Monmouthshire/Lancaut/LancautImages/LancautStJames2004.jpg
http://www.roughwood.net/ChurchAlbum/Monmouthshire/Lancaut/LancautImages/LancautStJamesWest2004.jpg

There's also a shelf of rock poking out of the river Severn here which has a ruined arch, an early Christain site dedicated to St Twrog and occupied by at least two hermits who received alms in the 1200's.
http://s0.geograph.org.uk/photos/54/56/545622_fd8906a2.jpg

boss margins, Monday, 15 November 2010 21:20 (fifteen years ago)

Welsh ruins! Are there some images that are not displaying there?

Wheal Dream, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 10:23 (fifteen years ago)

(I can't remember the name of it, a country house built by a mad English nobleman (weren't they all?) which was supposed to be a picturesque half-ruined folly, but the tower was designed so badly that it fell down and rendered the whole house an actual ruin before the 19th Century was over. Oh what was its name, what am I thinking of?)

― Wheal Dream, Monday, 15 November 2010 14:49 (Yesterday)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fonthill_Abbey

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 12:41 (fifteen years ago)

THAT IS THE ONE!!! Thank you so much. I was thinking "Fountains Abbey? Fontainbleu Abbey?" I know it was Font something.

Once he demanded that he would eat a Christmas dinner only if it would be served from new abbey kitchens and told his workmen to hurry. The kitchens collapsed as soon as the meal was over.

Wheal Dream, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 12:42 (fifteen years ago)

here are two images of my own to replace the hotlink denied white void in my post. St. James at Lancaut:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbzf29CBxH1qdu6dfo1_r1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbzffrDny11qdu6dfo1_500.jpg

boss margins, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

No Skara Brae no credibility!

http://www.thealsops.net/pictures/2007082421/IMG_0943.JPG

Wheal Dream, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

This is a very cool thread.

Unfrozen Caveman Board-Lawyer (WmC), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

Needs more fogous IMO

http://www.geniusloci.co.uk/images/fogou7.jpg

Wheal Dream, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

I must have walked pretty much RIGHT PAST this one without even noticing on my way to Zennor.

http://www.yourlocalweb.co.uk/images/pictures/00/09/zennor-quoit-865.jpg

Wheal Dream, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

I should probably know the difference between a dolmen

http://www.lookaroundireland.com/armagh/images/Ballykeel_Dolmen.JPG

and an QUOIT

http://www.historic-cornwall.org.uk/a2m/neolithic/chambered_tomb/trethevy_quoit/trethevy_quoit_gcs11689.jpg

Is Quoit just one of those weird Cornish or Southwestern words that they decided to call something which everyone else calls a Dolmen in the rest of the world?

Wheal Dream, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

the Agora at Miletus, Anatolia (SW Turkey)

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7113/turkeymiletusmiletossun.jpg

lonely is as lonely does, lonely is an eeyore (unregistered), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

Can I just say that as a Scrabble player, I'm very happy that quoits exist.

Unfrozen Caveman Board-Lawyer (WmC), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

http://i56.tinypic.com/2lo3jio.jpg

erected by the 2012 Mayan Death Cult Dan Brown Templar NSDAP Atlantean Freemasonic Extraterrestrial Illuminati, according to the History Channel

lonely is as lonely does, lonely is an eeyore (unregistered), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

http://i55.tinypic.com/6pqm4n.jpg

"The Secretary"

lonely is as lonely does, lonely is an eeyore (unregistered), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.students.sbc.edu/drahman08/images/8.800px-Knossos_bull.jpg

Knossos

Dis-moi ce que tu manges, je te dirai ce que tu es. (Michael White), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 17:44 (fifteen years ago)

Rose MaCauley got there before ILE did:

http://img1.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/x2/x11546.jpg

Aimless, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

A stand in the Hippodrome at Tyre:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2180/2560203957_2ec62fe301.jpg
Terraces at Tyre by gordontour, on Flickr

The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

I'M IN UR ZIGGURAT, DOIN' ZIGGA-ZIGG-AAAH!

http://www.atlastours.net/iraq/ur_ziggurat.jpg

Wheal Dream, Thursday, 18 November 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

That one doesn't look very ruined -- looks ready to move right in!

Unfrozen Caveman Board-Lawyer (WmC), Thursday, 18 November 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

Fairly certain it's been extensively restored. It spent much of its history looking more like...

http://www.odysseyadventures.ca/articles/ur%20of%20the%20chaldees/ur02_ziggurat02.jpg

Wheal Dream, Thursday, 18 November 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_d8lD9vT0YjY/SaxHbtq5D1I/AAAAAAAAACc/SGJaho02q0E/s320/gobeklitepe_nov08_4.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_d8lD9vT0YjY/SaxHbtq5D1I/AAAAAAAAACc/SGJaho02q0E/s320/gobeklitepe_nov08_4.jpg

some more gobelki tepe as seen upthread. gosh, this thing truly is fascinating and in the sense of speculation on it's age & origin, surely it's the worlds O.G ruin.
We've tended to chronologise civilisation with agriculturally catalysed systems as base, taking as tidy fact that settlement = more time & energy to practise capabilities not immediately essential towards survival. that type of environmental automation didn't suddenly make people smart, it only offered an alternative system.
as far as it's been explained to me, sedentism didnt directly succeed nomadism, and in some cases i'm sure offered a more productive existence than some early attempts at the ol' settle & build. these guys were nomadic hunters, but their landscape was far more domesticated & systemised than we may be able to project. the acceleration of knowledge & technology has been going since we formed a skeleton, so no doubt when the ecological going was good in the fertile crescent, people learned some v. important business about how things work.
these were clusters of people living off the earth learning of the conditions of things. time, seasons, ecology and how things were ordered.
one thing i love thinking about are the nature of the images. beasts, animals, creatures- things that move and that also, most importantly, die. they're being eternalised with stone, attaching the ephemeral to the eternal. at the height of my obsession with this stuff the phrase 'establishing permanence' kept going round my head, which could be applied towards the c. 11th century norman/benedictine structures itt, such as tintern, where invading powers saught to make a very visible ploy towards 'societal ordinance'. nobody since the romans had used stone in such a way to establish a presence in the landscape that says "uh get used to it. i am literally a part of this place now"
tldr more cool pictures pls

boss margins, Thursday, 18 November 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

T-DOORS!!!!!! Those are in Anasazi buildings too!

I've got ten bucks. SURPRISE ME. (Laurel), Thursday, 18 November 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

ugh Ive been to all those native american ruins elvis posted before the thread break.. thanks dad for all those awesome summer vacations

strongly recommend. unless you're a bitch (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 18 November 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

three years pass...

Man, if you want some ruin pr0n in your life, I highly recommend "RUIN LUST" currently at the Tate Britain:

http://www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/tate-britain/exhibition/ruin-lust

Pretty much starts with some epic John Martin ruins, your usual Tintern Abbey and mouldering Coliseum paintings and works its way through RUINED ANTICKUITIES and Soane's ruin of the Bank of England all the way up to Savage Messiah and the Wilson Twins' WWII bunkers.

(My favourite bit, though, to be honest, was reading all the Savage Messiah and Owen Hatherley stuff on the reading table outside.)

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 16:30 (eleven years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Aerial_cutaway_view_of_Soane

Sébastien, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 16:44 (eleven years ago)

That's a broken link?

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 16:49 (eleven years ago)

ITT, ancient LINKS, ruined LINKS, oh look on my works, ye mighty and despair!

(but tbf the pic is showing up on my screen)

Jibe, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 17:03 (eleven years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/g2TyCMs.jpg

Stelae field in Axum, Ethiopia. And underneath...

http://i.imgur.com/6Af7NAK.jpg

ogmor, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 17:50 (eleven years ago)

Ethiopia must be one the countries w/ the richest scope for archaeology & Axum in particular is incredible.

http://i.imgur.com/ByXPPWY.jpg

Tomb of Negus/King Kaleb, Axum

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4091/5171866714_fa7cbde310_z.jpg

Palace near Dongar/Dungur, outside of Axum, claimed locally to be the palace of Makeda aka the Queen of Sheba

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4149/5171266865_e6c0605b90_z.jpg

Nearby stelae field named after notorious scourge of Ethiopian history, Queen Gudit, who laid waste to Axum & led to the capital being moved to Lalibela.

http://www.yukiba.com/upl/server/uploads/1272562563-gondar-Ethiopia-Africa-Gondar.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/4PYFtpM.jpg

Palace grounds at Gondar

ogmor, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:58 (eleven years ago)

http://www.ondaverde.it/images/paestum.jpg

Paestum, Μεγάλη Ἑλλάς

già, ya, déjà, ja, yeah, whatever... (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 19:58 (eleven years ago)

Damn, Ethiopian ruins are some fine ruins, but that ruined town of Djado is like something out of a dream! There's something almost alive about those tiny jumbled dead windows watching you.

Some fine contributions to the thread, ogmor.

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 20:32 (eleven years ago)

OMG! The Cappadocian Fairy Chimney houses are some of my favourite things in the world, ever! Not even ruins, but still have that "is this a real place? did this simply grow from the rocks?" feeling about them.

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 06:00 (eleven years ago)

Huh, didn't realise Ledge went to St Andrews, which is my home (and one of my Alma Maters).

The Whittrick and Puddock (dowd), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 08:02 (eleven years ago)

there are so many gorgeous rock-hewn buildings or settlements built into the rock (dogon villages in mali, guyaju ruins in beijing, lalibela in ethiopia, elvis posted mesa verde &c. upthread), feel like a lot of ruin lust comes from a troglodyte love of stone

ogmor, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 20:07 (eleven years ago)

Troglodyte love of stones vs atavistic love of treehouses: FITE!

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 21:42 (eleven years ago)

http://cdn.roughguides.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/12.thebes-C87Y6M-1680x1050.jpg

thebes

ogmor, Monday, 7 April 2014 16:41 (eleven years ago)

Awesome. Feel like this thread could do with a lot more Egyptian ruins, TBH.

Ur-ruins and ruins of Ur. (Wait actually Ur is nowhere near Egypt, was it? Euphrates more like.)

Branwell Bell, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:10 (eleven years ago)

the pre-columbian americas own this thread, that's just me though.

saqsayhuaman near cusco, peru:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Walls_at_Sacsayhuaman.jpg

marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:13 (eleven years ago)

another:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Sacsahuaman_wall3.jpg

marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:14 (eleven years ago)

ollantaytambo, another inca site. these monoliths are about 12 feet tall. the spanish tried to destroy them but they were too big:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Ollantaytambo_Monolithen.jpg

marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:21 (eleven years ago)

and machu picchu, which everyone knows the majesty of:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Machu_Picchu_early_morning.JPG
most amazing place i've ever been

marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:24 (eleven years ago)

teotihuacan about an hour outside of mexico city - these pyramids are basically about the size of the more famous egyptian pyramids:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/View_from_Pyramide_de_la_luna.jpg

marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:30 (eleven years ago)

another:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/db/Pyramid_of_the_sun_teotihuacan_with_crowd.jpg

marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:31 (eleven years ago)

incan stonework is amazing

ogmor, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:48 (eleven years ago)

http://landlopers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/IMG_1272.jpg

chichen itza equinox snake

ogmor, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:53 (eleven years ago)

This one is like...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Sacsahuaman_wall3.jpg

How did they DO that? Is that dry stonewalling? The shapes of those blocks, in that immense size? Truly awe inspiring!

(Love those pyramids; I did a comic last summer with them as background)

Branwell Bell, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:54 (eleven years ago)

iirc it is all dry stone walling done w/ amazing carving and a plumb bob

ogmor, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:59 (eleven years ago)

yea it's remarkable.

marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:20 (eleven years ago)

this is a wall in cuzco, peru. there are TWELVE (12!) angles on this large stone:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Mur_Inca_Cuzco.jpg

marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:21 (eleven years ago)

also when i said the pyramids of teotihuacan were as large as the egyptian pyramids, i obviously meant the two big ones, not the smaller ones that decorate the avenue

marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:24 (eleven years ago)

yeah, inca stonework is insane.

the spanish tried to destroy them but they were too big

portions of cuzco are basically colonial building on top of inca foundations- when the earthquakes come, guess which part persists?

ale burphard iii (Hunt3r), Monday, 7 April 2014 18:35 (eleven years ago)

Peruvian crazy paving!

Branwell Bell, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:35 (eleven years ago)

also interesting to think that these buildings were created without wheels to move materials

marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:38 (eleven years ago)

suspect the method arose from that lack of mobility. greeks built wooden wheels round their pillar segments and moved them into position. i think egyptian, meroitic & axumite monoliths were all carved at the quarry & moved on rollers

ogmor, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:46 (eleven years ago)

OMG I want elephant stables now.

Branwell Bell, Monday, 7 April 2014 20:30 (eleven years ago)

The manure-removal bills alone would ruin one.

già, ya, déjà, ja, yeah, whatever... (Michael White), Monday, 7 April 2014 20:37 (eleven years ago)

I thought this was a gollum thread like "It ruins us - it RUINS us!"

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Monday, 7 April 2014 20:40 (eleven years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/LaasqorayRuins09.JPG/800px-LaasqorayRuins09.JPG

las khorey, somalia

ogmor, Thursday, 17 April 2014 17:46 (eleven years ago)

seven months pass...
one month passes...
one year passes...

I agree with marcos that pre-Columbian Americas definitely bring the ruination mojo.

I very much liked Uxmal, in the Yucatan, particularly the may the Magician's Pyramid comes up out of the trees like O HAI THERE

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9Qd3xWCJFeQ/maxresdefault.jpg

troops in djibouti (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 17:12 (nine years ago)

is that the one in star wars?

ogmor, Wednesday, 21 December 2016 17:58 (nine years ago)

No, apparently that was Tikal (learned this just now from, ugh, Wookieepedia)

troops in djibouti (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 20:17 (nine years ago)

two years pass...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Panglao_watchtower%2C_Bohol.png

very taken with this filipino watch tower

ogmor, Monday, 9 September 2019 15:25 (six years ago)

al-waqfa 'ala al-atlal

pomenitul, Monday, 9 September 2019 15:27 (six years ago)


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