iOS v ANDROID

ONE IS THE MOST REVOLUTIONARY OS IN 30 YEARS BUT THE OTHER U CAN CHANGE YR WALLPAPER LETS VOTE

windows mobile

lol joek

blackberry lmao

'wack'berry amirite?

'crackberry' <<ur addicted to a lo qual drug

sackberry. your phone is gross like testicles.

Someone needs to update http://thingsjohngruberiswrongabout.tumblr.com

prob seemed like it would be more fun than it was

feel like making android free was super smart by google as they really just need to make sure ios didnt reach monopoly status - but open sourcing it was dumb causing fragmentation of their platform

i'm thinking about switching to droid when my contract's up with att, tbh

its cool, u just arent that into apps

Symbian oh daer ur mobile OS is named similarly to a sex toy...

webOS more like whatOever

my mobile port of Windows 95 will beat them all when it's released

the phones it ships on will come with a USB mouse you have to plug into the bottom of your phone

all the software installs via an external CD drive you have to plug into the second USB port in the bottom of your phone

and it uses IR w/ a one foot range for "networking"

I'd buy it simply because it has two USB ports.

hahahahaha

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Having heard loads of stories about people being unable to upgrade to latest Android due to arbitrary manufacturer/carrier limitations, I'm going with iOS. At least everyone who owns a reasonably new iDevice is predictably on the same sw version.

^ spod.jpg

next phone will run android fo sho

I've only played with ANDROID phones so this is basically judging superficial look/feel and app count, but by that criteria iOS kills it.

I have a droid x and iphone 4.

Droid
- handles multitasking and background apps better
- free navigation
- notifications and alerts much more accessible
- a lot easier to configure options on various apps.

iphone
- GAMES
- battery destroys droid by 2 or 3 times (price you pay for all the background processes on droid)
- itunes
- all your apps are front and center (w/ droid you gotta make shortcuts)

my iphone is free but droid is not so that decision is pretty easy. otherwise, it'd be a really tough call but I might still go iphone b/c of GAMES. most the other stuff you can get around with a few clicks.

grey or blue socks?

att vs verizon

for abt 2 months^

android sux

all your apps are front and center

Surely only 16 are "front and center"?

android apps don't wiggle when you move them

there are no games for the android?

"front and center" meaning iOS starts on the app screen. Droid takes one extra click which makes it easier to forget apps you downloaded.

Also big one I forgot - Droid does not have an update all option for apps. Have to do updates one by one.

there's an app for this poll (iphone only)

The Android Market does have an 'update all' and has done for ages. Regardless of which version of the fragmented OS you use, too

fuck apps I just wanna make a phone call

Android's hardware agnosticism, thus huge range of handsets is difficult to ignore. My fully featured 'droid phone is effectively half the size of an iphone and fits in coin pocket of my jeans. Also cost 1/3 of what a contract free iphone would.

apparently update all was part of an update I never got. So I will sub in No Zing.

fuck apps I just wanna make a phone call

plenty of dumbphones around for that ; )

iphone would be nice but yeah changing my provider and adding at&t monthly rate hick to my budget is not going to cut it. android phones sell two for one through tmobile with a cheaper plan.

what do u do w/the second phone

paper weight

theres an app for that

Android's hardware agnosticism, thus huge range of handsets is difficult to ignore. My fully featured 'droid phone is effectively half the size of an iphone and fits in coin pocket of my jeans. Also cost 1/3 of what a contract free iphone would.

― Bill A, Thursday, December 16, 2010 1:35 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

feel like this is indicative of the difference between the two platforms - theres more options w/andriod but none of them have the polish conferred by apples focus

oh yeah, I mean the iOS is a pretty storming piece of work in most respects but the handset, regardless of how thin it gets, is too big for me to carry around comfortably. Surprises me that apple haven't gone for an iphone mini/nano tbh.

Android can be a bit hokey at times, but I still like it a lot. Also, Google Sky Map is incredible.

yeah im a little surprised by no iphone nano too

no ipadphone either

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is there an app 4 this

http://media.thestar.topscms.com/images/c1/4e/a7a2ed2d4f448df277dc250f0339.jpeg

~wishes~

wishes app™

iwish

My HTC Incredible isn't clunky or hokey at all! It won't fit in a coin pocket, but then that wasn't my primary concern.

I don't know what you mean about taking an extra click to get to apps? You can customize all 6 screens to have whatever you want on them, and each screen holds 12 app icons -- just put your most-used things on the middle/main screen if you want to? I made one screen for games, one for communications, one for internet applications & bookmarks, one for maps and navigation, and am working on one that only holds music-related icons and shortcuts for playlists, plus nice big set of "play," "pause," and playlist navigation buttons that you can mount anywhere on the screen.

And I've never paid for a single app; the free ones work fine and are good enough for the time being. I'm sure when I figure it all out and decide which things to cough up 2 or 5 or 10 bucks for, the options will improve even more.

google maps and free navi are nice

android has exposé which is ~nice~

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Android taking more than a bite out of Apple these days.

got high hopes for nexus s, my hardware is barely cutting it although android 2.0 did help when it finally came

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/31/google-android-leading-smartphone-platform_n_816405.html

they never include itouch or ipad sales in those comparisons why /gruber

my friend who is a nokia fanboy has a symbian. it is hilarious.

feel like making android free was super smart by google as they really just need to make sure ios didnt reach monopoly status - but open sourcing it was dumb causing fragmentation of their platform

― ice cr?m, Sunday, December 12, 2010 12:05 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

btw says here google had no choice but to open source android as its built on linux http://www.quora.com/Why-did-Google-make-Android-Open-Source

however:

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/01/31/apple-rakes-in-over-half-of-mobile-phone-industrys-fourth-quarter-profits/

half the mobile phone industry profit on 4% of its market share

yeah its p clear apple is positioning itself at the high end of the mobile computing/phone market aka appealing to consumers who actually use their devices heavily and are willing to pay for a primo product/ecosystem that works good - whether they capture the top 10% or 30% of the market obvs has a lot to say w/how this whole thing plays out - i wouldnt bet against them ending up w/the slice of the pie they want - especially considering android cant be bothered to get basic shit like software updates in phone payments etc right - rim is even further behind - windows phone 7 seems by all signs to be doa - and no one else is anywhere on tablets/itouch type devices

windows phone 7 was stillbirth, may have died before even being conceived tbh

my friend who works for microsoft has one - its actually p neat and original - def some forward thinking notification & stream type stuff - but then it seems like they got too clever and wiffed on some really simple things - like theres all this weird bleeding text and off center shit that just looks like bad raygun magazine or whatever

iphone in the enterprise is a joke

I haven't played much with this aspect of iphones but the droid incredible gets social networking integration completely - it's realllly good at presenting the various predominant pieces of the puzzle (phone/fb/twitter/gmail) as a singular entity/contact in yr phone

So much so that I didn't figure out the difference between gchat mesgs and text messages for like a month.

E III otm wrt to social networking on the droid. I have the Evo and all that stuff is set up in a really intuitive way and incredibly easy to use.

I don't know, that sounds kinda offputting. I rather like the distinction between the spheres.

apple is obvs not a huge player in enterprise historically but they have actually made big strides w/ios devices, can see this trend continuing, particularly the longer theres no viable ipad competitor

you do until you experience it, then you're like why didn't somebody think of this sooner

xp

like, yr phone rings and you see that person's fb photo

even if it's a telemarketer

j/k

notification/streams if seems where ios is weakest - there seems to be some philosophy of keeping things discrete - have to think abt that a lil more

the 'one true login' is def a huge question going forward not just for mobile but the internet and reality altogether

apple is obvs not a huge player in enterprise historically but they have actually made big strides w/ios devices, can see this trend continuing, particularly the longer theres no viable ipad competitor

rim is cooked imo, ie theres an opening in enterprise

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like, yr phone rings and you see that person's fb photo

― ^ probably more bullshit self-aggrandizement and non-essential info (Edward III), Monday, January 31, 2011 5:30 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

wait how do u do this

the facebook app on my droid doesn't work like 40% of the time

like, yr phone rings and you see that person's fb photo

Eh, I just look at mine and see the name and I'm good. Maybe I just like words more or something.

Besides, half the time people's Facebook photos are something completely not them. "Okay who do I know is a strangely drawn cat..."

fragmentation of the andriod platform is a MAJOR PROBLEM guys - something like only 2% of phones have the latests version of the os - not sure i would feel comfortable buying a device that i couldnt be sure was ever gonna get pushed the latest goodies

Mine works fine? I was initially annoyed cos there are a ton of people I'm "friends" with on fb that I don't call or want to call me, but I guess I don't HAVE my phone number up in that bitch so of course they can't. I could search through it for anyone who DID, tho, should I need to call any of you on the spur of the moment.

I'm tech stupid. How would I even know if I had the "latest" version of the os? Would it make my life better?

jho otm, android fragmentation is the primary reason I won't buy an android phone

rim is cooked imo, ie theres an opening in enterprise

laurel every android phone is released at a certain version by the vendor/telco, so you've got loads if people out there with old and different versions of the os -> massive problem with rollout of new and updated apps

I'm tech stupid. How would I even know if I had the "latest" version of the os? Would it make my life better?

― go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Monday, January 31, 2011 5:54 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i mean worrying abt fragmentation and os updates is total nerd shit for people who are lol power users people who buy tons of apps and notice and care abt minute design/usability differentiation aka apples cohort - andriod is succeeding competing on price and ubiquity for people who generally dont care as much and dont use their devices as hardcore - feel like that is how the market will generally shake out

people will care if they're not 'lol power users' if it turns out they cant play angry birds 2 or something

i read something linked from daring fireball no doubt abt how there are like 10 diff versions of angry birds for android to accommodate fragmentation

Funny, I just downloaded the one that was in the Android "market" and it works fine.

What do power users do with their phones that normal people don't? Use them to store/transport lots of info to and from other machines?

aa here, posting from this account because it's easier to type.

Apple rolls out the same version of the OS to everyone with the same phone model, regardless of network. So if you've got an iphone 4 and you plug it into itunes regularly, you'll most likely have iOS 4 on there and your apps will work exactly as well as they do on every other iphone 4.

Android's all over the place. Your phone model might only be ready for 2.1 and your telco might decide to keep you on 2.1 for six months, meanwhile a load of other people are on 2.2 or 2.3 or even 1.x.

I don't connect my phone to a computer because it came with a disk I would have to DL/install to make it synch and be compatible and it's PC-only I think (and my work computer is a mac) and my home computer isn't "mine" so I just never did it. But my updates all come wirelessly.

i read something linked from daring fireball no doubt abt how there are like 10 diff versions of angry birds for android to accommodate fragmentation

― ice cr?m, Monday, January 31, 2011 6:06 PM

O_O

What do power users do with their phones that normal people don't? Use them to store/transport lots of info to and from other machines?

― go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Monday, January 31, 2011 6:07 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think its more the lol intimacy w/the device which naturally breeds opinions and caring abt stuff

the point is that you'll get some updates when others don't and vice versa xxp

you see their names too

xp to ned

Which does help.

i read something linked from daring fireball no doubt abt how there are like 10 diff versions of angry birds for android to accommodate fragmentation

― ice cr?m, Monday, January 31, 2011 6:06 PM

I work for a company that does apps and themes etc and can attest that this is true, and is even worse for BlackBerry.

Oh and the other problem with Android is that the telcos get to shit up the home screen with all their self-serving dickhead apps that nobody ever uses. Last non-iphone phone I had was a Nokia that was jam-packed with all the junk Telstra insisted on putting there (sensis/white pages/yellow pages/whereis/1234 or whatever it's called/etc) and I couldn't delete any of it without hacking the handset. Android has the same problem which taken on its own is enough to push me back to Apple.

Apple's not exactly a stranger to forcing apps down people's throats (why can't I delete the sodding stocks app ffs) but at least they do what they're supposed to and at least they're not part of some dumb agenda to spin money out of thin air.

p much all of these android issues i don't have.

obv there is fragmentation but i'm up to date with firmware, don't have any apps i can't delete on my home page or whatever (that sounds weird).

stocks thing is ugh

What about nerd shit like custom rom's on android?

the dust and the screaming
the platform fragmenting!

fragmentation of the andriod platform is a MAJOR PROBLEM guys - something like only 2% of phones have the latests version of the os - not sure i would feel comfortable buying a device that i couldnt be sure was ever gonna get pushed the latest goodies

tbf 'latest' a bit of a red herring but yeah you need a scorecard already.
http://blogs.computerworld.com/17650/android_upgrades_carriers

What about nerd shit like custom rom's on android?

― Aerosol, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 12:07 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

theres def an android market for people who want to hack their phones, feel like thats p small overall tho

android sucks the big one

some of this android platform shit will work itself out

there are a lot of flavors but it will stabilize eventually - remember there are many flavors of linux too

verizon droid incredible is what my experience has been with and aside from battery life (which can be fixed with a battery upgrade) the thing has been rock solid

idk, apple seems more into making things people want than things people need. rim is all about pleasing enterprise and android is all about integration; I can see those three carving distinct niches in the market.

― dirty man haw (Autumn Almanac), Monday, January 31, 2011 5:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

^ this is most otm. RIM's got a massive install base of enterprise customers who are leveraged in hardware/training/expertise on blackberry enterprise servers, those customers aren't going to throw away the centralized management features and security functions for lol iphones.

both of those posts are so insane i dont EVEN know where to start

i mean yeah all those super popular linux consumer devices, np just throw a new battery in it, ignore rims already declining numbers

it's not like any intelligent enterprise lets users actually do anything w/their blackberrys beyond reading email anyway.

excellent take on rims problems http://mobileopportunity.blogspot.com/2010/10/whats-really-wrong-with-blackberry-and.html

linux sucks the big one too

"Apple's not exactly a stranger to forcing (the apps that they will allow you to have) down people's throats..."

apposite considering the android logo in tremendoid's computerworld blog link

http://blogs.computerworld.com/sites/default/themes/cw_blogs/cache/files/u177/android-power-twitter2.jpg

that is a robot gobjob rite

i mean yeah all those super popular linux consumer devices

granted linux is a niche, what I'm saying is that there are stable distros out there, if you need to use linux you know which one to reach for, open platform doesn't necessarily mean total chaos, that's just some FUD thinking there

np just throw a new battery in it

yeah but you can pay $0-$50 for the phone vs $200 for an iphone so still ahead

ignore rims already declining numbers

RIM is getting pressure, granted, and they're gonna have to hustle to hold on to what they have, but they've got possession of the ball, all this "apple can compete in the enterprise" comes from folks who have obv never tried to connect a mac to a hardened windows active directory domain

yeah but you can pay $0-$50 for the phone vs $200 for an iphone so still ahead

that's america, deals are completely different worldwide

other than that, yes

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20019573-266.html

^ I mean articles like this one get you all excited by starting out saying "Research in Motion's BlackBerry may soon lose its lock on the enterprise market" but then read on and they fess up

Most experts agree that RIM is not likely to disappear from the corporate landscape anytime soon. There are still many corporate consumers who like the look and feel of the BlackBerry. What's more, the company is trying to develop devices that will appeal to consumers, such as the new touchscreen BlackBerry Torch.

So it's likely that RIM will remain a major player for some time. But it will have a lot more competition.

it's just tech journos messing w/ yr head man

my point is most people arent thinking like nbd ill just get another battery theyre thinking this phone sux my battery doesnt work - understanding this level of user experience and not leaning on geek work arounds is why the iphone is better - tho im not sure if google gives a fuck as android is already doing what they want it to - kinda doubt they have institutional fortitude to perfect the situation

i think android will continue to do v well but the iphone will be better and have a more cohesive/robust ecosystem and make more $$$

xp i didnt say rim would disappear over night, just that theyre toast long term

and as for their devices that are suposed to 'appeal to consumers' sure right w/e pffft

anyway lol good job replacing the article i posted full of graphs and info w/some fluff bullshit claiming im getting excited over it

I'm just saying there are niches and iphone isn't gonna be the answer to everything

my point is most people arent thinking like nbd ill just get another battery theyre thinking this phone sux my battery doesnt work

were ppl thinking nbd ill just get a bumper or this iphone sux my antenna doesnt work

i dont think the iphone will be the answer to everything - i think they take the top 20-30% of the market and most of the profits - android will get most of the rest w/everyone else fighting over scraps

ok

ps I was saying those type of articles get the general "you" i.e. the reader excited, just tryna get "you" to read their articles but I will look at your graphs I like graphs

were ppl thinking nbd ill just get a bumper or this iphone sux my antenna doesnt work

― ^ probably more bullshit self-aggrandizement and non-essential info (Edward III), Tuesday, February 1, 2011 3:47 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

thats actually a telling user experience distinction - putting a case on yr phone isnt the same as replacing the battery - not that antennagate wasnt a problem for apple - it was but it just wasnt that big a problem

btw ime apple could take more than 230% of the market w/agressive pricing, that has never been their m.o. but recall the ipad was much cheaper than everyone expected, so who knows maybe apple decides its worth it

lol 240% even

why not 500% don't be so conservative

iphones on mars etc

it will happen

honeycomb y'all

http://www.youtube.com/Android

uh one of the ppl was just talking to cee-lo on an android tablet or something

for like 30 seconds

The description of adding contact in the Blackberry Torche Mobile Opp article is hilariously frustrating.

so are any of u android types using Tasker

been using toggle settings forever out of habit, i think i have tasker but not bothered to use it

don't know about anyone else but i'm having endless issues with the wireless connectivity on my samsung galaxy s android. fucking don't if you ever consider.

In case this helps: since I upgraded to Android 2.3.3 I have to first disconnect the 3G/H data network mode (long press the power button and click the second option) before I activate wifi. If I don't, it acts like my wifi doesn't have any DNS information and can't find any sites for the first couple of minutes. If I deactivate that data mode first, wifi works immediately.

Oh, and battery full or alarm time for a calendar event doesn't seem to beep or vibrate anymore.

Those are the two issues I have at the moment. Both aren't _that_ bad, except when I count on my phone to remind me of something. No beep or vibrate = too late for dentist, etc

(also on Galaxy S btw)

There may be an Android update v2.3.4 on the way, apparently.

My web connectivity has been down since last night, and I got like 35 "message download failed" texts yesterday that were DRIVING ME CRAZY from 3-10pm. Gonna call Verizon shortly and unload.

- if you have bluetooth problems: turn off the phone and remove the battery for +15 minutes. Put back battery, turn back on, try again, should work now.

- message download failed: had that once when someone had sent me a vv big attachment. Too big for phone carrier's mail routers, but allowed by regular internet provider. Deleted the message via a web mail client and after that my phone downloaded everything else. Not Android/Samsung's fault, in my case.

android is ((_) butts (_))

Apparently my phone needed some updates?? I just got off call w cust svc and they seem to have pushed out some changes to my settings that worked fine. Back up now!

That's the second time in about 10 days that I've had connectivity issues, though. Will be angry if that keeps happening.

iOS v ANDROID

how do i upgrade to 2.3.3? is that the firmware? (mine says 2.2)

tried the disabling thing, still doesn't work. yeah its a problem with the dns it seems, i put in the static dns and i did have it working at some point but its just gone again now. pretty atrocious really.

even when it connects finally to my wireless, it just won't send or receieve data or browse the web etc. wtf at this

Yeah, it's a firmware update. Can be installed with Samsung Kies (that's the name over here, don't know if it's the same name everywhere.

Do make sure you know the settings for your data connections before you upgrade though, they may dissappear.

These firmware updates generally add new features (use your phone as wireless modem for a portable, for instance) or improvements like battery life or GPS performance.

For your other problems, try out different settings or channels on your wireless router. changing the channel width from 20, the default, to 40 sped up my phone's connection to it a lot. Using my provider's dns instead of letting the router act as a dns server did too. I don't see why it could work for some people but not others...

cheers for the help StanM I'll check it out

Anyone else have a bitchofa time with HD Internet vids downloading real slow on iPad?

Now this pos is capitalizing Internet!

It also capitalises White and Market. Also, no.

Damn. Not sure where to go from here. Maybe just every router I connect to is shit eh?

I think Android fanboys are now creepier and scarier than Apple fanboys.

apple fanboys are more lame than creepy or scary.

what defines an android fanboy

By that I mean the ones who are 100% biased and unfeasibly angry. There seem to be loads of them.

idgi

also i think any sort of platform arguments are stupid in the extreme. mac vs pc arguments (like the ones that occur hourly on any music making forum) are seriously pathetic.

Like 100% Apple fanboys talk up everything Apple and con people in buying Apple stuff, but 100% Android fanboys get all weirdly irrational and ignore obvious facts. A good case in point is the Apple v Samsung case atm, where the worst of the Android fanboys insist that Samsung didn't copy loads of Apple stuff, Apple's just being mean etc. idgi.

xp yeah, different platforms suit different purposes and they can co-exist happily and it's all cool.

ive never met someone super into their android phone

There was a pro-Android guy in my Twitter list who would wait for me to say something even remotely negative about Apple so he could pounce on me with "wah told you so" and "wah what do you expect" &c. Every single time.

ive never met someone super into their android phone

hmm maybe I just exist around the wrong people.

people should chill out and not be so into gadgets and other material things

But I don't have any other hobbies...

I'm super into my Android phone but I like Apple computers too so I don't know where I fit into this scheme of things

hi, i need to buy a new phone. i should buy an iphone right? and is the 4s so much better than the 4g (or whatever) that i should wait 10 days for it to be shipped, or should i just cop the 4g cuz it's cheaper + i could have it tonight?

4S: newer proc, better camera (esp better optics), Siri, will presumably have a somewhat longer software update lifespan (tho the 3GS is up to date with iOS 5)
4: $100 cheaper. How much does this $100 matter to you amortized over your two year contract?

but yeah get an iPhone

i'm less concerned about the price and more concerned about not having a cell phone for over a week

i like my android phone (moto atrix) cos i can t*rrent tv shows and hook my cell up to my tv w/hdmi

can an iphone do that these days? last time i had iphone was 3g and it couldn't really do anything.

i don't care that much about the camera... more wondering how big of a deal siri is

yeah i'm not hooking my cellphone up to my tv anytime soon

also this is probably a dumb question but what's the difference b/w buying an iphone from the apple store and buying it thru my carrier?

siri sucks

thank u based cozen

Siri is not a big deal. Reasons to get the 4s if you don't care abt camera: 1. It's faster at everything. 2. That's it

fair enough

I'm way into the Android OS. It's pretty simple and vastly more customizable than iOS. Like, I can make a folder and organize stuff with it. It's sort of ridiculous for that to be a notable feature but it's something you can't do on any iPhone device, and I'm old school enough to really love it.

Has anyone dabbled in app writing / game creation? I don't know much programming but there seem to be a lot of game makers and engines. Are any of them any good? I wouldn't mind putting together a 2d side scroller or something just for fun.

android users are human scum

"I can make a folder and organize stuff with it."

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by this, but you've been able to organize stuff into folders on iOS for quite a while now.

Not on my 3G phone, pal

wow... so the latest android update has played serious havoc with my s4. lagging, unresponsive, apps crashing every couple of minutes... how they managed to screw this up so badly is anyone's guess. the cynic in me wonders if they did it on purpose so i would upgrade my phone, but i'm still on contract.

my android phone seems to have reinstalled voicemail without my asking, and won't let me disable it via deleting the voicemail number?

is "appadvice.com" really the best app review site on the internet? is there nothing better?