How Do We Feel About Matt Damon?

The dude works so often that I've taken him for granted, but he's quietly built an impressive body of work: nothing spectacular -- he still seems like a supporting actor experimenting with leading man status -- but worth citing.

owns

he still seems like a supporting actor experimenting with leading man status

really? have you seen any of the "bourne"s?

yeah that description fits johnny depp more to me - character actor w/leading man looks

Maybe the most consistent H'wood male actor of the 00s.

really? have you seen any of the "bourne"s?

― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, December 28, 2010 8:22 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i was gonna say. those were really successful too

really? have you seen any of the "bourne"s?

I love the second one. Depp is more obviously leading man material: he reaches out to the audience like Nicholson or the Harrison Ford of the Indy movies (not an endorsement of Deep's acting btw).

Damon is recessive and furtive; that's partly what makes him ideal casting in the Bourne movies (and why it's easy to imagine him turning into a zombie by the time The Bourne Inferno is released in 2017).

to me Damon's secret weapon is how funny he can be -- i've been thinking about doing a poll thread of his best comedic roles (The Informant, 30 Rock, Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back, even the Ocean's movies really, etc.)

the 'supporting actor' cliché has as an element of truth in that he has the sort of generic appearance that police sketch artists must dread

he is like an avatar of civilized american values, even more colourless than clooney

Damon is recessive and furtive; that's partly what makes him ideal casting in the Bourne movies (and why it's easy to imagine him turning into a zombie by the time The Bourne Inferno is released in 2017).

― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, December 28, 2010 9:28 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

those qualities combined with his larger than life charm means he plays GREAT sociopaths imo

otm

idk about larger than life

do matt damon and ben affleck still hang out?

Thread inspired, btw, by how terrific he is in True Grit; he's become canny about choosing parts which exploit his aging-frat-guy looks.

damon is lifesize charm tbrr

he said he took the true grit part w/o knowing even what the project was, just 2 work w/ coens

yeah he's wonderful in TG, tho in retrospect I think he was doing his McConaughey impression the whole time

also hadnt read the book or seen the earlier movie xp

he shd have seen the first versh

i trust he has made amends?

A local weekly singled him out for his work this year:

Most Valuable Player

Matt Damon distinguished himself in just about every way possible in 2010 – charging righteously through Paul Greengrass’s Green Zone, playing a soulful seer in Clint Eastwood’s Hereafter, narrating Charles Ferguson’s Inside Job, turning in one of the savviest performances of his career as a puffed-up Texas Ranger in True Grit...and just crushing it as Liz Lemon’s boyfriend Carol Burnett on 30 Rock.

Rounders is my favorite performance of his.

green zone kinda gives lie to 'well chosen roles'

he did ok but script was pish

On the one hand, I'm glad he chooses things like The Talented Mr Ripley and The Good Shepard, and up for the challenge; on the other, the Hollywood tricks let him down.

*and is up for the challenge

he was pretty well chosen for 'the good shepherd', like he may be frat but he went to harvard so

Green Zone and Hereafter are both horrible but Damon is fine in both.

what do you mean hollywood tricks

http://www.newwavefilm.com/images/jean-luc-godard.jpg

that gleam-in-his-eye hollywood smile

http://www.thecinemasource.com/moviesdb/images/Matt%20Damon%20-%201%20-%20300%20-%20Syriana.jpg
be wary of his hollywood tricks

http://www.thecinemasource.com/moviesdb/images/Matt%20Damon%20-%201%20-%20300%20-%20Syriana.jpg

The Talented Mr Ripley is a serious bowdlerization of the novel: sentimental and soft even if, like I did, you enjoyed the Italian settings and the delicious supporting cast. Damon could easily have handled the sociopathic ambisexual that Patricia Highsmith created; instead he has to look doe-eyed and recite speeches about wanting to be an attractive nobody or whatever.

oops, image didn't work the first time xp

it's ok -- I can imagine his Hollywood smile and him turning tricks for me.

I can see why he did Green Zone, even though the script was a giant misfire in every way - he wanted to do another movie w/Greengrass that had some of that bourne juice w/o doing another sequel, was a chance to tackle ~important issues of the day~

xp I was gonna say earlier that it would've been great to see him do a FUN Ripley movie.

yeah he's wonderful in TG, tho in retrospect I think he was doing his McConaughey impression the whole time

― ೋ*¨*ೋALWAYz A F4RT3R ♥ 24/7/365ೋ*¨*ೋ (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, December 28, 2010 9:36 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha totally.

xp I was gonna say earlier that it would've been great to see him do a FUN Ripley movie.

like Malkovich

He was perfectly cast in True Grit, his comedy skills showed off pretty well (LOVE that scene where he flashes Mattie his US Marshall badge with that look like UH HUH GET A LOAD OF THIS, so tongue in cheek but playing it totally straight.)

Loved all of the Bourne movies, Good Will Hunting, Mr Ripley, Good Shepherd...really love him in 30 Rock, and his stuff on Entourage was hilarious. I think he's hottest when he's being funny.

Hereafter looked so dire not even Damon could get me to watch that one.

i think this dude is great btw. probably the most consistent hwood star of the 00s in terms of quality of projects. way more staying power than affleck though i admire how both of them have carved out semi-weird little niches for themselves

re ben affleck, i hadn't seen him in anything until the town, and was tryna remember what he looked like the next day but kept thinking of adam sandler

damon i guess is more identifiable than that

like Malkovich

― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, December 28, 2010 9:51 PM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark

haha thats exactly what i was thinking of - Ripley's Game is CRAZY underrated

LOVE that scene where he flashes Mattie his US Marshall badge with that look like UH HUH GET A LOAD OF THIS, so tongue in cheek but playing it totally straight.)

yeah -- I loved this. It's so hard to play a prig without mugging.

the 2000s: most consistent actor/actor with the best choice in projects

nommed damon in this thread

I'm hoping he becomes like Paul Newman in the seventies and eighties: less to prove, so he walks into any old project and blows everyone off screen.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WyfBJte-Jds/S9wQ0Af_qiI/AAAAAAAAAU8/77VDzNL7acM/s1600/invictus.jpg

he was the only good thing about invictus tbh

did n e one watch that

yeah i saw it, not enough rugby

he got an Oscar nod for that one!

http://mimg.ugo.com/201003/39166/cuts/matt-damon-will-smith-bagger-vance_288x288.jpg

the clint eastwood movie looked horrifying

i saw it, rugby was really really bad. damon was better than freeman.

His acting improved when he cut the locks imo

yea i love him but i dont think ill ever see invictus, green zone or hereafter

also the best part of that movie was the black and white security guards becoming friends

one of the white guys looked like fat south african pleasant plains

Of course there's:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd4o_hUXbfs

hes a great talk show guest too. letterman has a huge crush on him.

simmons actually made a good point about Invictus - mandela spent too much time in the foreground, it wasn't the rugby team's story so you couldn't get involved in the actual drama of the game, plus the whole thing was just lame and crappy

sure he's a nice person and all but this thread is just o_O to me

He's not quite as consistent as advertised (he added nothing to Hereafter), but I'll take his acting over Affleck's directing.

There was absolutely no call for him to get that nod for Invictus unless they just wanted to award him for having the biggest pecs he's ever had in his career, but he should definitely get one for True Grit.

simmons actually made a good point about Invictus - mandela spent too much time in the foreground, it wasn't the rugby team's story so you couldn't get involved in the actual drama of the game, plus the whole thing was just lame and crappy

― ೋ*¨*ೋALWAYz A F4RT3R ♥ 24/7/365ೋ*¨*ೋ (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, December 28, 2010 10:04 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i wanted a sweet inspirational sports movie but it ended up just being morgan freeman showing off

He's not quite as consistent as advertised (he added nothing to Hereafter)

Yeah, this was my point upthread. It's so easy for him to slip into stolid mode.

think he's great and i used to really not. he grew on me. that first bourne was the turning point.

i love when he burns the proof in GWH and hes like LOL THIS IS EASY FOR ME and stellan skarsgard looks like hes gonna cry... always lol at that scene

yeah love that scene. also "how do ya like them apples" was always lol for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuYD2cwMbpw&feature=related

lol

think he's great and i used to really not. he grew on me. that first bourne was the turning point.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, December 28, 2010 9:08 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark

ditto.

<3 <3 <3

it's like the line in The 40 Year Old Virgin ("Y'know, I always thought that Matt Damon was like a Streisand, but he's rocking the shit in this one") was speaking everyone's mind

nobody mentioned The Departed yet cos i mean

he is obv great in that

still prob the fourth best tho, which is why that movie is so amazing

Beyond the roles he picks, he's been very good at balancing being a star and being anonymous, and it benefits his work. See Affleck and Damon as opposites of how to manage an emerging career.

beyond the departed, i like him a lot. good comedy chops, great in bourne action roles, can do likeable or not,

xp choice of roles also important.

up there as one of the top 5 males in 00's i guess

Ben Affleck: Hey look, I'm sorry I dragged you away from whatever-gay-serial-killers-who-ride-horses-and-like-to-play-golf-touchy-feely-picture you're supposed to be doing this week.
Matt Damon: I take it you haven't seen Forces of Nature?
Ben Affleck: You're like a child. What've I been telling you? You gotta do the safe picture. Then you can do the art picture. But then sometimes you gotta do the payback picture because your friend says you owe him.
[They both take a beat and look at the camera]
Ben Affleck: And sometimes, you have to go back to the well.
Matt Damon: And sometimes, you do Reindeer Games.
Ben Affleck: See, that's just mean.

hahaha

lemon face lion face is where the lols are at in that scene imo

which i watched last night tbrr

can i just

http://www.playbill.com/images/photo/m/b/mb.jpg

wait does mindy have six fingers???

you of all people would know

she always wore mittens

guys dont get smittens
for gals who wear mittens

Beyond the roles he picks, he's been very good at balancing being a star and being anonymous, and it benefits his work. See Affleck and Damon as opposites of how to manage an emerging career.

― would like a calmer set (Eazy), Tuesday, December 28, 2010 10:59 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah, well, plus Affleck just isn't very talented as an actor. selectiveness aside I think his looks and talent carried him about as far as they could.

my fav Damon-in-a-smith movie moment is him ad-libbing the lyrics to "Run's House" in Dogma

i have no idea what that pic is

afflect directed gone baby gone so pretty much wins that

i am sort of proud of affleck for realizing he is a mediocre actor and deciding to become a better-than-mediocre director

i'm not sure that was his rationale but assuming it was, has anyone else taken that route?

mindy kaling and brenda withers wrote a play called "matt and ben"

it's basically how mindy broke thru

/insider ish

i'm not sure that was his rationale but assuming it was, has anyone else taken that route?

Clint Eastwood.

yeah i mean, I'm sure he gave himself the lead in The Town because he thought it'd be good for his career as an actor, plus he's in the next Malick movie so I bet he thinks he can rehabilitate himself as an actor by being in more interesting shit

thanks for filling me in gbx!

Clint Eastwood.

― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 04:24 (8 seconds ago)

alright actor to often dreadful director is probably a more common trajectory

u got to stop with the challops son, as ilx wunderkind it's a phase you'd be best served skipping imo

While watching Affleck do pull-ups in The Town I realized I still have a weird crush on him.

Anyway, ENBB: the Run's House scene is my hands-down favorite moment from Dogma, and that's saying alot bc I LOVE that movie. His little stutter dance step at the end is LOL and awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtVFcJiqHSQ

ooh wait extended clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhb8wC4Kqxw

i love matt damon

wait does mindy have six fingers???

― kanellos (gbx), Tuesday, December 28, 2010 11:10 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
you of all people would know

― max, Tuesday, December 28, 2010 11:12 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
she always wore mittens

― kanellos (gbx), Tuesday, December 28, 2010 11:15 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wait can we have a thread derail where evan tells us mindy factoids? or is that too creepy/

it's a source of great sadness to me that i never got to see "matt and ben"

and introduce myself to mindy kaling afterwards and become her bff

kind of off-topic i guess.

matt damon also got cuter over time imo.

Where's the wit and wisdom of Armond White?

i was talking to friends abt True Grit and then about how much i like matt damon and apparently this was news to them! like i was all out of character for me! or maybe just out of character for me to actually care abt a celeb. but dudes this guy was freakin Jason Bourne AND is also hilarious. i think he has the best smile in hollywood.

ok now i will read this thread

rrrobyn otm. Matt Damon, best smile in Hollywood. More than a smile. It's like a drop-your-pants-high-beam-of-awesome.

Sorry. The Krush Groove thing got me all carried away.

i was lying about the mittens

but i did see matt and ben. my friend and i threw roses. no one else did.

aw! also jealous

I don't see Damon playing great sociopaths, as he was a black hole at the center of the utterly misguided Talented Mr Ripley.

Anyway, True Grit is the first time I've liked him in eons, tho I tend to skip anything where he's the lead (Bournes, Green Zone etc).

his best comedic roles (The Informant, 30 Rock, Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back, even the Ocean's movies really, etc.)

You left out the only one I like, Stuck on You.

morbs and i agree

not about the only part, but that it's a funny movie

probably the most consistent hwood star of the 00s in terms of quality of projects

jeezus, like what? I think it was the combo of Good Shepherd and Informant that resolved me never to see a 'Matt Damon picture' again.

tho I saw Inside Job today, so I guess I paid to see a Matt Damon souped-up PowerPoint presentation.

thought you saw movies for free

You Left Out The Only One I Like

Potential collected-works title.

they didnt send me that one, nor did I get to an awards screening. xp

but to answer the thread question, I'd fuck him.

oh i forgot abt Inside Job! also lol porn title.
tho tbh he's not so much a WS to me as a would hang out and talk abt the world with (and bask in the sunlight of his smile obv)

I admire him for taking the narrating job for a film that points out what a phony our prez is, which means the sucking-Obama's-dick limo lib crowd might be pissed at him for awhile.

even his dick has a limo

I think I've established my position on the WS Matt Damon question pretty clearly ITT but in case there's any doubt: I'm definitely for it.

Oh and Stuck On You is great. I forgot that one.

lol suck on u

Outside of the Ocean's movies I can't think of many, if any, movies starring him that I've seen. (File under: "I know, right?")

Want to see True Grit, though.

dick limo!

You ppl don't even know how to read hyphens and modifiers, no wonder you think those Ocean's donuts are "movies"

lol @ u!

<3 srsly!

"i'm not sure that was his rationale but assuming it was, has anyone else taken that route?"

Redford, I guess, but I guess you could make the argument he's a pretty mediocre director too (not that I think Affleck is any great shakes at this point.)

"I don't see Damon playing great sociopaths, as he was a black hole at the center of the utterly misguided Talented Mr Ripley."

Yeah that was a crappy adaptation.

rlly? i have never read any highsmith but that seemed like kindof a good movie?

would blap

TMR is a good movie and one of damon's best roles. not read highsmith but it's in the same class as the other highsmith adaptations i've seen, wenders's and hitchcock's.

you should watch the 2003 one with Malkovich.

im disappointed that al doesnt have a pithy nickname for talented mr ripley

you guys should read highsmith she rules!

i don't really like talented mr. ripley but maybe it's good as a movie apart from its failure to capture the novel

at the time i thought damon was pretty bad in it

yeah horseshoe otm those books are great and creepy, there are not enough novels about sociopaths these days imo

Not really: Ripley doesn't make sense as a character. But I liked the supporting cast though.

xp to horseshoe

i liked tmr, i will say this about gwenyth too, she is a babe

i remember gwyneth and jude law a lot more than i remember damon's performance from that movie

cate blanchett is a babe

gwyn, she's ok

i will say, blanchett and law in that movie make paltrow and damon look very normal persony. paltrow is so pretty in general though; she looks kind of whatever in that movie, maybe that's part of why i didn't like it.

On the other hand TMR was pretty bold about its homosexual subject matter, and I remember the audience uncomfortably rustling when Damon asks Law if he can join him in the tub.

but these days jude law looks like ass and matt damon is v cuet, so

looks a bit beefy to me but im not the target market i guess

poor jude and his hairline

Jude Law went through that period when he made Gattaca, Wilde, and TNR that made him look dangerous and sexy; then he fucked his kid's nanny and became human.

TNR = TMR

Jude Law went through that period when he made Gattaca, Wilde, and TNR that made him look dangerous and sexy; then he fucked his kid's nanny and became human.

― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, December 29, 2010 12:54 PM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha i was afraid of sounding predictably self-righteous but i do kind of feel jude law's soul caught up to his face or something

TMR is a good movie and one of damon's best roles. not read highsmith but it's in the same class as the other highsmith adaptations i've seen, wenders's and hitchcock's.

― moholy-nagl (history mayne), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:43 (21 minutes ago)

amerikanische freund is nice but strangers on a train does unseemly things to it

not seen tmr but tbrr don't imagine i'd share yr <3

i do kind of feel jude law's soul caught up to his face

goddammit, what a hit

that's some reverse Dorian Grey shit.

gonna write a character for jude law valled yerg nairod and see if he spots it

I am not averse to Matt Damon, although I suspect that, like so many movie stars, his success is as much based on an intangible charisma as on acting ability. That's ok by me, since I am just as much smitten by charisma as the next guy, and this has been true of movie stars since the silent era.

I must say I am a bit surprised at all the love shown here, after reading so many ilxors slag off on Good Will Hunting, consistently and in multiple threads, as if it were one of the greatest abominations ever foisted on an innocent public. Clearly, he has redeemed himself.

so many years, so many floppy bangs ago.

fell like affleck is prob ahead of him on both banging and flops tbh

feel like damon is some sort of avatar for millennial wholesomeness, i like him btw

talented mr ripley is p great in its own way too

maybe i should watch it again

its kinda boring tho

tmr and gwh are both movies that i think i rate more highly in retrospect b/c damon has emerged as a bro to be reckoned w/

a bro to be reckoned w/

^^^ his authorized biography title.

its kinda boring tho

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, December 29, 2010 1:31 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that's how i remember it

good will hunting is terrible sorry but it's true

feel like damon is some sort of avatar for millennial wholesomeness, i like him btw

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, December 29, 2010 6:29 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

'also for blankness: in both 'mr ripley' and 'the bourne supremacy' he plays a man without a fixed identity' - an entry-level journalist in 2002

and The Good Shepard

good will hunting is terrible sorry but it's true

― horseshoe, Wednesday, December 29, 2010 1:34 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i hate to say this b/c i admire ur integrity but you have too high standards for movies, remember when you were hating on definitely maybe

i am just a crank on ilx lately; i'm like shakey mo on novels, but with movies. sorry guys.

sorry, max, but horseshoe has plenty more competition in our ILX Film Snob crew.

we'll always have the devil wears prada, max

xp i know i am in some middlebrow purgatory

we still <3 u, horseshoe, you adorable curmudgeon

ive given up on the ilx film snob crew al, a long time ago, i still had hope for horseshoe, but now its just me, standing athwart history, sticking up for underdogs like definitely maybe and good will hunting

sometime during college i stopped having standards, i think 'relativism' happened to me, now i just consume and try not examine my pleasure responses, i recommend it for everyone

you liberal

goodwill hunting is terrible except the part w/HOW U LIKE THEM APPLES and MY FRIEND IS WICKED SMAHT

also casey affleck is pretty hilar

and remember max, no films you have to read.

TMR is classic 'well-intentioned' liberal homophobia, and Jude Law is great in it, but I'm sure this is on an Untalented Mr Minghella thread somewhere.

yes, "my friend is wicked smaht" makes me laugh

sometime during college i stopped having standards, i think 'relativism' happened to me, now i just consume and try not examine my pleasure responses, i recommend it for everyone

― max, Wednesday, December 29, 2010 12:43 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

haha. i do this but just bend over backwards to create excuses / justifications

casey is secretly better than either damon or affleck

probably!

how can i feel matt damon?

and will age the best

xp

not very secretly

robin williams clutching damon by the throat growling I WILL END YOU pretty ace, too.

i don't even know about 'secretly' tbh xps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWTzyU5MFgM

well secretly in terms of famousness if not ilx consensus

I don't know about his acting, but Casey's screen presence is weirder and more interesting than Mr. Garner and Mr. Ripley's.

as long as i'm being an asshole, i might as well say i never thought "how do you like them apples" was that funny, what with the labored "do you like apples?" setup, i mean, who says that?

lol team america is like 100% jokes that shouldnt be funny but are

as long as i'm being an asshole, i might as well say i never thought "how do you like them apples" was that funny, what with the labored "do you like apples?" setup, i mean, who says that?

Harvesters.

hay horseshoe do u like apples?

i dunno 'do you like apples' is a good pull-in line. could see a salesman using it to get his foot in the door

yeah

xp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf0OFZexRGs

as long as i'm being an asshole, i might as well say i never thought "how do you like them apples" was that funny, what with the labored "do you like apples?" setup, i mean, who says that?

― horseshoe, Wednesday, December 29, 2010 1:51 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dogg

that is the point

i am just a crank on ilx lately; i'm like shakey mo on novels, but with movies. sorry guys.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, December 29, 2010 12:38 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT.

IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT.

haha okay. that whole movie is like why? to me

xp looooool

everyone i know who hates this movie hates it because it portrays math in an unrealistic way. that's the only reason they give. these dudes also like pi.

i think minnie driver is p charming in it, but it's the most thankless girlfriend role ever

If it had been me I would've been like "I TOTALLY LIKE APPLES!!"

she was a pretty thankless gf irl tbf

Love that they got ponytailed dude from GWH to come in and do "Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back," too.

i would have been all, are you gonna ask me if i like them apples, bro? lol, got you.

q: do u like apples?

a: I TOTALLY LIKE APPLES!!

q: well i got her number how do u like THEM APPLES!

a: THANK YOU I TOTALLY LIKE APPLES!!

conversely it wouldve been awesome if the guy wrote down the number when damon showed it to him

yeah, it wasn't a fair standoff cos dude was all confused about where the apples promised were to materialise from

i wish u had written that movie, jho

xp

gwh is a shitty movie

frankly lamps baby

lol when this movie came out like everyone i knew was all 'i know matt damon and ben affleck'

because they were from the next town over and around the same age

my friend has a tape of a school play she was in w/affleck and she says damon was the cool guy and affleck was his sidekick fwiw

wd be cool if dude was all "APPLES KILLED MY MOTHER NO I FUCKING HATE APPLES CMERE YOU LITTLE PISSANT" and smashes a bottle on the table and chases Damon down the street screaming maniacally waving the broken bottle

tbh i don't really like apples that much so that line would have fallen flat on me

I have the wretched feeling that my mention of GWH has irremediably sidetracked this thread.

i like apples a lot and did u know theyre one of the highest satiating foods there is, factoid!

Exhausting to eat though.

I loved this movie when it came out, have loved it ever since and no-one, not even horseshoe can ruin my love for it.

KEEP ANTAGANIZING ME, WATCH WAHT HAPPINS

i like apples, h8 gwh, enjoy matt damon a fair bit

so far unmentioned damon flick i like: school ties

<3 you're a model for living, VG

xp i love school ties! he's so amazingly evil in it

johnny apple seed was irl a hard cider entrepreneur, he would buy up land cheap in areas people were just starting to move into and plant orchards then when the trees were bearing fruit and the population had increased hed sell the orchards to cider producers

the thing about apples is they're too hard

like ILX for Damon!

lolol horseshoe and Alfred tag team WIN

if you plant an apple seed you wont get the same type of apple as the seed came from, youll get a random variety, the vast majority of apple varieties are unpalatable, so if you want apples for eating you need to grow the tree from a cutting, but all apples are good for making hard cider!

Currently working on my screenplay for Good Fall Pippin

q: DO YOU LIKE APPLES?
a: depends. In a pie? or Just to eat?
q: DOESN'T MATTER. DO YOU LIKE APPLES.
a: I like them best in pies, and I only eat one kind of apple otherwise so my answer would be yes and no. Why?

why do people hate this movie, if math inaccuracies or matt damon or apples aren't the reason?

q: if i baked this phone number into a pie WOULD U LIKE IT

q: do u like apples?

a: I TOTALLY LIKE APPLES!!

q: well i got her number how do u like THEM APPLES!

a: THANK YOU I TOTALLY LIKE APPLES!!

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, December 29, 2010 2:02 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

still cracking me up

why do people hate this movie, if math inaccuracies or matt damon or apples aren't the reason?

― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, December 29, 2010 2:17 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

because its hella corny and robin williams

otm

dying @ apples rewrite

i like corny things, but the things this movie is corny about and the ways in which it is corny are so dumb

ppl who like apples and are awesome like GWH
ppl who don't like apples and/or hate fun do not like GWH

not corn.
apples.

re: dumb corny williams, where's the hate for awakenings then?

Also: Robin Williams does not wear a cardigan as well as Judd Hirsch did in Ordinary People.

re: dumb corny williams, where's the hate for awakenings then?

You never asked.

q: do you like apples

a: yes

q: where's the hate for awakenings then?

Fuck I'll say it, I like GWH and think a lot of the stuff people pick on was done sort of intentionally.

to show how bad it really is?

because they don't want apples and bad mathematics to have a platform

Love in GWH when Affleck subs for Damon in the job interview and fleeces the guys in the room for whatever money they have on them. "ReTAINer!"

Afternoon Delight is a great moment too

the maths in GWH was better than the maths in π btw

I never said it was the best movie ever made or anything but I enjoyed it enough to watch it several times and part of it really got to me so I'm going to stand by my assertion that it's not terrible. It's OK though - we all don't have to like the same things you know. Also, I fucking love Matt Damon.

Those parts are both great, yeah.

I think my fave part was when, after GWH leaves, Casey slides into shotgun like he's moved up a peg. Just a great look of satisfaction on his face.

But a lot of he scenes with Williams are hamhanded as a man with bacon gloves.

Robin Williams wore these to the Oscars:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/Ni5izETPwgoup8ue0oMRPCTEo1_500.jpg

I liked Williams in GWH

god when Williams smiles in that cardigan it's the creepiest thing ever

Imagine if the soundtrack to GWH was all Train songs instead of Elliott Smith songs.

dunno the difference

It was an alright movie when you consider the whole thing was basically written around one good scene, that is, the apples scene.

bourne series is just as corny, but deficient in apples, too.
is it because the romantic lead is run lola run? what if they swapped?

bourne is majestic 4 all time

Yes.

bourne is majestic 4 all time

I still get a kick out of the scene in Switzerland where the two cops are hassling him, and after he grabs the first cops baton, there's this one-beat moment of "Holy Shit, its not just that I can tie all kinds of knots and speak tons of languages, I'm also a badass who can dismantle people" realization that they caught really well.

I liked the car chase through that French tunnel in whichever Bourne movie it was. I've blended them all into 1 big awesome Matt Damon extravaganza in my mind.

supremacy

GWH is a great movie. Not enough tracksuits.

hahahaha

Never enough tracksuits.

how u like them tracksuits

I know it's not Damon but since we're on GWH the Casey scene in the house with the baseball mitt and 'Keep antagonising me, watch what happens' is the best.

there are several good parts!

I'm coming up with quite a list now that I'm thinking about it. And I like when Minnie Driver tells the joke about the grandma with no teeth.

Chuckie: Morgan, I'm not going to Kelly's just because you like the takeout girl. It's fifteen minutes out of our way.
Morgan: What the fuck are we gonna do that we can't spare fifteen minutes?

Dudes and there's the fight scene with Carmine Scarpaglia....and snacks.

wrt to the talented mister ripley and damon playing those kinds of characters, isnt the all american beefcake as secret sociopath the hod-dude version of the laura palmer cliché tho?

It would be cool if Ben Affleck just wore tracksuits in every movie he is in from now on. He wore a multitude of them in the Town too.

in ripley/informant he's supposed to be a nerd i thought, and is appropriately scrawny in one/chubby in the other.

robin williams is hella irritating and its like jim carrey when ppl are all "no he's actually good in this movie and doesnt do any 'jokin around!'" and ur obviously like srsly i will never watch this movie bc i have only so much time in my life and clearly i have reserved much of that for posting about movies i hate on ilx omg kill me

What am I, fuckin' sandwich welfare? I think you should establish a good line of credit. Like how you bought your couch, payment plans. Remember how your mother brought in $10 everyday for a year and she finally got her couch Rent-A-Center Style?
Can I have my food now please?

^^^ one of my favorite scenes in the movie.

RETAINERS!

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/-JBvfZTx-vs/0.jpg

“Let me tell you somethin, YOUR SUSPECT!"

how do you like them ankles?

total derail by now but I forgot abt the Good Will Hunting 2: Hunting Season scene in Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back.
LOLOLOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ70hbvaPdU

one of the white guys looked like fat south african pleasant plains

― max, Tuesday, December 28, 2010 8:59 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Dude, that's the second time you've mentioned that. You've got to provide a screencap or actor's name next time.

Though with the holidays wrapping up, I'm already getting a pretty good idea of what a fat Pleasant Plains looks like.

haha i mentioned it the second time because i went back to look at the invictus thread and just copied my comments

just imagine yourself, fatter, with a south african accent

lol Max but maybe PP doesn't really want to picture that, is what he's saying

"Oh yeah? Imagine YOURself fatter with a South African accent, jerk" lol

There used to be a rumor that William Goldman secretly wrote Good Will Hunting, but here's an even better story that's on the record: Terrence Malick suggested its ending. Matt Damon revealed that after he finagled a meeting with the reclusive Malick to discuss the script, the director suggested a change to the story's romantic happy ending, which found Damon and Minnie Driver leaving town together. "In the middle of the dinner, he said, 'I think it would be better if she left and he went after her.' And Ben [Affleck] and I looked at each other. It was one of those things where you go, 'Of course that's better.'" At least, it was a better note than Gus Van Sant's original insistence that Affleck's character should be killed: "Gus came down and said 'I want to do a draft where Chucky, Ben's character, dies on the construction site.' And Ben and I were just mortified. 'What are you talking about?' 'I want him to get crushed like a bug.' We said 'Gus what are you talking about? You cant just fucking smush Ben. That's a terrible idea.'" [Taking Barack to the Movies via MCN]

wow!

would kill to see malicks good will hunting

I want malick to direct it but w/ van sant's ending

i can not even imagine

CASEY AFFLECK (V.O.): Where is it that we were together? Who were you that I lived with? The brother. The friend. Darkness, light. Strife and love. Are they the workings of one mind? The features of the same face? Oh, my soul. Let me be in you now. Look out through my eyes. Look out at the things you made. All things shining. And let's get off mothers. 'Cause I just got off yours.

malick would have shot 400 hrs of footage and the main character would be the ponytail dude from the bar

mice in the hallways flies on the chalkboard

feel like someone should devote themselves to fictionalizing alternate histories like this use the internet to spread them as truth then revel themselves 30 years later to be the originator of most of mankinds misconceptions and the greatest artist of all time

lol max

CLOSE ON rats on garbage can

WILL (off-screen): Do you like apples?

CUT TO:

EXT. WILL'S HOUSE. DAY.

so tempted to go full custos w/ this shit

tbf the only thing preventing me is that i can barely remember anything that happens in good will hunting

hey so i liked the adjustment bureau!

i dont think anyone else will, its very, very corny, but i dunno, everyone was so charming, and its about true love!

i had low expectations, too

and General Zod is in it.

yeah i mean cmon, great cast, funny premise, tons of jokes, totally corny ending, how can you go wrong

once it got going it was quite good apart from the stuff about the adjustment bureau

i like the idea that heaven is just a massive, awful bureaucracy

heaven can wait had that premise sorta

that's a movie i watched like 30 times on cable when i was a kid

and that albert brooks movie too i guess

HOW DID I MISS THIS THREAD?

I love Matt Damon.

i wanted it to be more sinister

it was v light

Oh my goodness, he's gonna be in We Bought a Zoo?!??

Thank u, imdb, thank u.

goddamn u to hell max

IT WASNT LIGHT IT WAS DEAD

aw morbs it was about tru love

MAX, EVERY DiCraprio/Damon thriller IS ABOUT TRUE LOVE, which SUCKS!!!

the "funny premise" WAS NOT DONE AS COMEDY.

"'heaven can wait' had that premise sorta"

Stamp seems merely a slightly more malevolent celestial messenger than the avuncular Claude Rains-James Mason model, and the Adjustment Bureau members' physical and telepathic limits remain murky, as does the question of whether they use the main reading room of the 42nd Street library as a base only during overnight hours.

http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/the-adjustment-bureau/5300

btw, can u tell in that review how I avoided saying Anthony Mackie was playing a Magic Negro just cuz i didnt want to deal with ppl who'd never heard the term?

Bagger Vance, the adjustment bureaucrat with a heart of gold

for a movie that wasnt a comedy there were a lot of jokes!

im not really even defending it, it was pretty inconsequential, which i liked about it

q: do u like apples?

a: I TOTALLY LIKE APPLES!!

q: well i got her number how do u like THEM APPLES!

a: THANK YOU I TOTALLY LIKE APPLES!!

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, December 29, 2010 2:02 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

still so funny

horseshoe i'm so sad that you hate my most treasured comedy of all time, good will hunting

i know, i am no fun. i didn't realize it was supposed to be funny! as a serious movie, it is super-dumb. maybe i'll give it another try...i'm totally not going to, though.

as long as i'm being an asshole, i might as well say i never thought "how do you like them apples" was that funny, what with the labored "do you like apples?" setup, i mean, who says that?

― horseshoe, Wednesday, December 29, 2010 1:51 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dogg

that is the point

― max, Wednesday, December 29, 2010 1:55 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this post shamed me. it had honestly never occurred to me.

that's okay... its not your fault! *shakes ur shoulders*

i should have talked about the adjustment bureau in the romcom thread

NO

apples derail is all-time. made my day.

HOW DID I MISS THIS THREAD?

I love Matt Damon.

^^^was totally thinkin' this as i was scrolling thru.

max, max

So, The Adjustment Bureau.

Offers: Matt Damon running away from Roger Sterling with a hot chick!

Delivers: Matt Damon with a MAGIC HAT going through MAGIC DOORS trying to stop a wedding. Roger Sterling peripheral and uncharasmatic.

Fucking stupid film.

Best line (delivered with horror): "He has a hat!"

Matt Damon in the wild, fires back at trap questions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFHJkvEwyhk

I got pretty happy about that I gotta say

despite having genuinely never seen damon in anything i thought i didn't like him but i watched the adjustment bureau last week and now i really love him.

this is in spite of the fact that the AB is not that great but it does have a lovely atmosphere and moves beautifully in spite of the poor plotting/plot holes everywhere!

some down the line good will hunting shit right there. i love the cameraman chipping in in the first place!, with that compelling, inducive stat on 10% of all practitioners being bad at their job.
jed should i be adding TAB to my list of engrossing sub-standard american movies to watch y/n

he and emily blunt are sweet together

xp

schlump it's good fun and, as hm says, they are good on screen together (i like emily blunt too). it has some good ideas which are not explored as fully as they should be but i actually found it thought provoking.

Dude is a bro.

shoulda been affleck instead of blunt in that imo

i love bald matt damon for taking down that possibly shitty cameraman

aw I love him so

adjustment bureau is like a slightly weird romantic comedy, its fun

ah i see i have made this point upthread

i love bald matt damon for taking down that possibly shitty cameraman

― it was pleasant and delightful, just like (La Lechera), Wednesday, August 3, 2011 8:28 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

so do i! i've always loved him anyway though. and now i also like his mother.

i enjoyed adjustment bureau. roger from mad men is also in it getting up to some science fictional tricks.

maybe you're a shitty cameraman !

the romance is the weirdest & most real thing about it. which is probably the point but if it was they didn't push it far enough.

it's a little like punch drunk love, actually.

I love that in order to somehow make a non-point they inject file footage of him from a movie

and, not knowing they were going to do this, he still keeps his cool but burns them just enough with the "shitty cameraman" line

Also, "do you think job insecurity is what makes me work hard?" is the best line

I mean, really, people who go on about job security and joking about how to get it are really the worst people.

Wow who the hell were those cocks interviewing him/the teachers? Assholes. And A+ Damon.

Some kind of right-leaning site Drew Carey is involved with. *groan*

hahaha, any fool knows job insecurity makes you slack off big time. why should I invest any effort when you can fire me for any old bullshit reason?

I'm assuming reason.tv is just like reason magazine so they're libertarians

in other words, they're dicks

despite having genuinely never seen damon in anything i thought i didn't like him

wait... not even 'the departed'?? MD kills in that

LITERALLY (it's about gangsters)

not a thing but i intend to recify that.

you should, he is a very likeable actor.

here's where i admit i havent seen a single bourne movie.

he appears to be retarded in the trailer for the outbreak remake hes in

Some kind of right-leaning site Drew Carey is involved with.

What? Nooooooooo!

bob barker never made a thing of causes that didnt involve animals' genitalia. drew carey would do well to remember this.

Damon is quick on his feet and sharp, I like that a lot.

aaaaahahahah that's great.

Yeah he totally wins in that clip, cool guy.

my bald matt damon's wicked smaht

love Damon's visible switch from politely, intently listening to the first few words of her question to internally calibrating his wtf-meter 2 seconds in

ty for posting Johnny

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpcxttM0wA1qa9bmvo1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1312470245&Signature=3sElFG%2FaP136vqQQUdif%2F4LpiyM%3D

I mean, really, people who go on about job security and joking about how to get it are really the worst people.

― mh, Tuesday, August 2, 2011 6:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm

Libertarians make me so fucking mad. I was pretty much a libertarian from age like 15 to 19. Took exactly one college sociology class to straighten me out. Just grown adults living in this state of arrested development because they can't empathize for anyone who isn't in their shoes. It's a total non-shocker that libertarians have rallys on places heavily populated by socially inept shut ins like the World Of Warcraft playing field.

An illustrative story, perhaps:

So yesterday, a patron, regular or summer school student here, comes to the desk and heads over to the self-checkout machine to check out a book, and is failing at it. I've seen some people confused by the machine first time through but this guy is failing, period -- getting everything wrong. I go to help him, he mentions he's 'really high right now' and we eventually get his book checked out to him.

Said book: The Fountainhead

wait.. was there actually a libertarian rally inside the WoW game?

i like how damons expression changes when he susses she is an axe grinder

Tracer: http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2007/12/ron-paul-suppor/

According to the fourteen pages of planning for the event found in this Ron Paul website...

lol

xp yeah, right around :08 when his eyes roll up a little and you can see the gears in his head working double-time.

i got in an argument with a libertarian once and I was like, "You know like just being born black in this country means you're denied economic opportunities right and left." And his example of the apparently always-present ability to pull yourself up from your bootstraps and make it anyway was Andre 3000, lol

The funny thing is that he's right, based on the simple inability to hold a two- or three-shot and the dutch angle, dude IS a shitty cameraman.

a brief survey of right wing twitter accts shows that matt damon is wrong b/c he used the phrase "intrinsically paternalistic" proving that he is... a weenie

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2011/08/03/watch-matt-damon-say-intrinsically-paternalistic

those big hollywood guys are really something else

My family is packed with teachers, and very good ones. What they do is important and to say that they’ve made a difference in the lives of their students doesn’t begin to cover it. But this “preciousness” attached to teaching is nothing more than a political ploy. The Left is using the teaching profession as a way to strengthen corrupt pubic unions and increase the government payroll — two ways to capture political power and create more Democrats.

he's on to us!

soopermexican · 5 minutes ago
If Matt Damon is an actor just because he wants to be and not for the money, then why doesn't get give ALL his money to the govt?

corrupt pubic unions

My father has worked with his hands his entire life. He’s kept aircraft in good flying condition for the Air Force, fixed your cars, remodelled your homes, and kept many a nursing home from falling apart. He’s lived a life covered in fibreglass insulation, drywall dust and raw sewage. In other words, without a union or movie stars flacking for him or the media oohing and ahhing over his precious profession, he’s kept this world turning and done so without complaint or summers off.

What he does is no less important than what a teacher does, but he’s always been paid a helluva lot less – which is why the Left’s attaching of all this special nobility to a single profession is especially galling.

My father has worked with his hands his entire life

Great job security in the fluffing industry.

http://www.enterpriseirregulars.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/bootstrapper.jpg

i love that clip but teachers don't work really long hours.

and it is GALLING

i am totally GALLED OUT here

by the left

i love that clip but teachers don't work really long hours.

― jed_, Wednesday, August 3, 2011 8:57 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sorry, but good ones do.

i love that clip but teachers don't work really long hours.

Sure, they don't get up at 5am, prep shit for class that day, TEACH children from 8-4, and then spend the night lesson planning and grading assignments. I must have confused that with some other occupation.

teachers work crazy long hours! i basically see my teacher friends once a month once the school year starts

what, up at 5am? none of the teachers i know live like that.

yeah the teachers i know get up ass early and then do grading and stuff for hours each night.

p sure some teachers do work long hours, in fact a lot of them, because teaching well is a difficult job

lol many xps

it varies, folks. some teachers work long hours and others, not so much.

hard to believe, but it's true.

no I think jed is right teachers just hang out in the faculty lounge all day and throw balls of paper into the wastebasket and then take 5 months off for summer pffffft lazy teachers

lol @ surm.

dayo, don't be a dick

sorry it's what happens when my eyes are opened by THE TRUTH

i'm posting from a class I'm supposed to be teaching right now.

at least 10 percent do, it says so in the clip xp

I think that the Five Percenter Nation of Gods and Earths is what's ruining education

those Poor Righteous Teachesr mucking up stuff, under Secretary of Education Rakim

The Brand Nubian Academy of Arts and Sciences

i roll w/reason from time to time coming as i do from a civil libertarian position, but yeah that clip is a golden smackdown and

love Damon's visible switch from politely, intently listening to the first few words of her question to internally calibrating his wtf-meter 2 seconds in

― generous loller at dollies (sic), Wednesday, August 3, 2011 12:33 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark

^^^ this

he responds to the question with a question, now that's first-class media training.

teachers also organise and run after-school activities two days a week and have to travel across the city for competitions half of their Saturdays

just chiming in that teachers work very long hours fwiw

just logged some hrs and I'm not not teaching for another three weeks

just sayin, I feel good abt Matt Damon

i like matt damon and i'm for teachers

Libertarians make me so fucking mad. I was pretty much a libertarian from age like 15 to 19. Took exactly one college sociology class to straighten me out. Just grown adults living in this state of arrested development because they can't empathize for anyone who isn't in their shoes. It's a total non-shocker that libertarians have rallys on places heavily populated by socially inept shut ins like the World Of Warcraft playing field.

It's like their intellectual and emotional development stops at age 12; otoh I know 12 year olds who have a much better understanding of the world than they do.

omg now i have to love matt damon who knew?

I know a few ppl who've taken teaching jobs because it's all they could fucking get

that's why 90% of ppl take jobs?

i bet teaching is the first thing that people with no qualifications whatsoever think about doing

tell Matt Damon xp

I know a few ppl who've taken teaching jobs because it's all they could fucking get

― leave me alone, i was only zinging (rip van wanko), Wednesday, August 3, 2011 7:36 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

god who are these people??? i will move to where they are and take all of these magical surplus teaching jobs.

"shit, working in Burger King would be sweet but unfortunately I could only get this lousy teaching job. luckily it's a 6-hour day and i get 13 weeks paid leave a year when I do nothing except count my fat paycheques"

wait i dunno who's arguing what anymore

i really wanted to be a cashier, but all i could get was a job that required a postgraduate degree

xxxp no fucking kidding, what goddamn candy land bullshit entity is giving away teaching jobs rite now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AblnsNXLKI&feature=related

what goddamn candyland doesn't require a postgrad for cashier jobs tbph

i did not really like the adjustment bureau but now all those comments upthread are making me feel like a curmudgeon about it.

xxxp right? i will probably be subbing all year which is fine, but i mean!!!

horseshoe, what are you certified/going to be certified in?

english language arts 7-12.

lol @ if you like paying taxes so much why dont you just give the government all your money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SdI9mhcCQM&feature=related

I don't even know how to deal with entry level disses like that!
x-post

overqualified zingerhuh? well my father dealt with entry level zings HIS WHOLE LIFE but you just go on hating america punk

I never how anyone gets the idea teachers work less than other professions do. Heck all the teech's I know also work even thru the holidays - or, worse, they arent PAID during the holidays (thank you, contract work) so have to go get a shitty second job so they can like, eat.

i would like to do a reality show where we send a few hundred libertarians into an abandoned town and just say "have at it."

i figure it'd be like that old "1800's House" show on pbs, except everyone would eventually get cholera after being knee-deep in sewage that hasn't been disposed of in six months.

how much would a babysitter make to watch 20+ children all day? how much would someone make to basically speak in public all day? how much would someone make to deal with angry parents on the reg? that doesn't even count the sheer time it takes to be prepared for those things.

lol that reminds me of belle waring's classic pony blogpost.

Reason recently published a debate held at its 35th anniversary banquet. The flavor of this discussion is indescribable. In its total estrangement from our political and social life today, its wilfull disregard of all known facts about human nature, it resembles nothing so much as a debate over some fine procedural point of end-stage communism, after the state has withered away. Child-care arrangements, let's say. Position A: there will be well run communal creches! Position B: nonsense! the amount of work required from each individual to maintain a perfectly functioning society will be so small that people can care for their own children and those of others on a spontaneous basis, as the need arises!

Allow me to summarize.

Richard A. Epstein: even in the libertarian utopia, some forms of state coercion will be required. If we must assemble 100 plots of land to build a railway which will benefit all, and only 99 owners will sell, then we may need to force a lone holdout to accept a fair price for his land. Similarly, the public enforcement of private rights and the creation of infrastructure will require money, so there will have to be some taxes. [Note to self: no shit, Sherlock.]

Randy Barnett: Not so fast! Let's cross that bridge when we come to it rather than restricting liberty in advance. We'll know a lot more about human liberty in the libertarian utopia, and private entrepreneurs will solve these problems somehow without our needing to grant to governments the dangerous ability to confiscate our property in the name of some nebulous "public good." And as for rights enforcement -- look it's Halley's Comet!

David Friedman: Epstein places too much confidence in his proposed restrictions on government power. Rights could be enforced privately, and imperfect but workable solutions to the holdouts in the railway case could also be found. "To justify taxation we need the additional assumption that rights enforcement cannot be done by the state at a profit, despite historical examples of societies where the right to enforce the law and collect the resulting fines was a marketable asset."

xp

those idiots make me so angry and then i get sad/angry w/ myself for not being empathetic/understanding & just wanting to sacrifice them all to the god of property rights by shoving into an active volcano but its like... what are the limits of common decency when you are dealing w/ ppl this stupid/terrible???

i will move to where they are and take all of these magical surplus teaching jobs.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, August 3, 2011 11:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

south texas

it is a philosophy that only "works" if we all agree to go back to the atomization of the frontier, where everyone gets their own plot of wilderness w/ log cabin, their own chance to live off the land to the best of their ability, and the bonus of a good chance of likely dying within the first year from some disease or pestilence out of oregon trail.

on the other hand, a lot of these goofs would probably like that.

the alaskan bush xp

i'm guessing a large proportion of libertarians would not hack it in such a situation

but the chance to prove themselves real men freed from the nanny state! surely that is enough.

hoos, not no more (esp not for sec eng) xps

also nothing makes me angrier and more irrational in our current political landscape, lamp, so yr not alone.

i did not really like the adjustment bureau but now all those comments upthread are making me feel like a curmudgeon about it.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, August 3, 2011 7:46 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark

you hate every movie!

http://i.imgur.com/easwx.gif

haha my inordinately wealthy friend who a) hasn't had a job in 15 years, b) lives in a *high-end* gated community and c) has a WHOJGALT license plate mentioned a while ago in passing that the gated development really needed to raise its fees to deal with the quality of the roads

that's socialism, bro

btw i like matt damon

i know ade i am such a grump :/

that's why we love you.

i am just a crank on ilx lately; i'm like shakey mo on novels, but with movies. sorry guys.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, December 29, 2010 1:38 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

guess nothings changed since december

*shakes head sadly*

haha it's like i'm trolling your personally, max! btw i am LOVING warlock i don't want it to end!!!

tbf most movies are garbage

*blows horseshoe a kiss*

what do you know? you haven't even seen matewan!

xxxp ha!

btw We'll know a lot more about human liberty in the libertarian utopia,We'll know a lot more about human liberty in the libertarian utopia,We'll know a lot more about human liberty in the libertarian utopia,We'll know a lot more about human liberty in the libertarian utopia,We'll know a lot more about human liberty in the libertarian utopia,We'll know a lot more about human liberty in the libertarian utopia,We'll know a lot more about human liberty in the libertarian utopia,We'll know a lot more about human liberty in the libertarian utopia,We'll know a lot more about human liberty in the libertarian utopia,We'll know a lot more about human liberty in the libertarian utopia,We'll know a lot more about human liberty in the libertarian utopia,We'll know a lot more about human liberty in the libertarian utopia,We'll know a lot more about human liberty in the libertarian utopia,We'll know a lot more about human liberty in the libertarian utopia

i would like to do a reality show where we send a few hundred libertarians into an abandoned town and just say "have at it."

i figure it'd be like that old "1800's House" show on pbs, except everyone would eventually get cholera after being knee-deep in sewage that hasn't been disposed of in six months.

― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, August 4, 2011 12:28 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

http://www.slate.com/id/2296999/

i am going to set up a teacher certification program in crazy libertarian studies and start a school and employ you all and we will blow minds.

hahaha yaaaaaaay

xp

you know who libertarians are? the product of homeschooling.

there are ppl who actually live the libertarian life in alaska (sarah palin is not one of them). no one ever appearing in the press would ever submit to that life tho

i am going to one up you horseshoe, and do a correspondance course for libertarians, teaching them how to set up a correspondence course to teach children how to grow up to be libertarians

also <3 horseshoe

Re the why doesn't Damon give his money away then? comments, he sort of is, running this impressive scheme aimed at getting clean water to every African kid...

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/157/can-this-man-save-this-girl

what do you know? you haven't even seen matewan!

xxxp ha!

― caek, Wednesday, August 3, 2011 8:52 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

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whatever, min

you know who libertarians are? the product of homeschooling.

― smells like PENGUINS (remy bean), Thursday, August 4, 2011 12:56 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

largely true ime

KEENE, N.H.—My first interview with the city's antigovernment activists is happening in an RV that, technically at least, is breaking the law. The RV houses the "Liberty on Tour" project and often parks in Keene, and today, as it's been for many days, it's parked next to the home of Free Keene co-founder Ian Freeman. "The city doesn't allow RVs to park like this," says Freeman. "But they require a complaining party, and no one in the neighborhood is complaining. Now, theoretically, anyone from the city could complain. They know what's going to happen if they do. We're going to make a big deal about it. We're going to go to jail."

libertarianism: going to jail over your right to park an r.v. wherever you want

I never how anyone gets the idea teachers work less than other professions do.

teachers often have to do things that seem to involve them just sitting there waiting for their students to do things, while they themselves do nothing.

they also do an enormous amount of their work (grading and prep) completely alone, which besides the obvious (people don't realize they're working), maybe gets to some of the people who DO realize that they're working, because the idea of being alone somehow doesn't sit well with the circumstances of forced co-presence under which most people labor.

I love that slate article

a lot of people never get over their resentment of having to go to school so they take it out on teachers for the rest of their lives.

damn

yeah, i think it's just about people's experience as students having been annoyed with various teachers and not seeing a lot of the behind the scenes prepwork that goes into even a shitty lesson. like, i was a very ineffective student teacher this past spring but it felt like all i did was teach and prepare for teaching and grade and sleep.

xp always upstaged by estela <3

hardly <3

i would move anywhere to teach at a school run by you, horseshoe. let's not having grading at this school though.

let's not have any grading i mean.

no grading! you will have the endowed chair of the art of zinging (libertarians)!

i think it's just about people's experience as students having been annoyed with various teachers

really? i mean, i had a couple teachers that were pure assholes, but i far more think about the good ones.

<3 u mrs. dunmyre for calc

schools can be such stressful places and students are often getting a raw deal. so are teachers, to a lesser extent, and i feel like sometimes the only tangible thing the two groups have to train their ire on is each other, even though as the great matt damon points out what's wrong with education is a lot more *complicated* than students or teachers being bad.

at your school the cafeteria should only serve cake.

Marie Antoinette memorial cafe

yeah the things that frustrate me most about the "education debate" are a) the idea that theres a "crisis" in american public education, like, across the board, that is b) the fault of teachers and c) can be fixed in a uniform way, usually by d) busting teachers unions and e) creating private for-profit schools

and no one ever needs to see the evidence that there is a "crisis" in american public education! there is something weird about our culture that just people just _assume_ that all schools and students are worse now than when they were kids

all the problems in american schools would be solved in teachers made less money just like declining real wages have solved the problems of so many other professions in america!!

i have too many boring things to say on this topic! it seems like the rhetoric of crisis is unchanged since 1983 and a nation at risk following which "educational reform" became code for gutting the public sphere.

i think some parents expect their children to be geniuses and when it turns out they're average they call it a crisis and blame the teachers.

max damon and ben horseleck otm

like I am a fucking masochist who reads the local education news stories and every comment is like WELL IF THESE PARENTS WOULD JUST DO THEIR JOB or IF THESE LAZY TEACHERS blah blah it's like, is there an area of policy which so many ppl believe there is only one easily identified problem and it's out of sheer malicious negligence that it doesn't get fixed?

tbf if the parents aren't on board i think it's kinda rare that a teacher can make a lasting difference

someone punch me for saying 'on board' going forward

well sometimes parents aren't on board because they had horrible experiences themselves in underfunded schools or it isn't so much that they aren't on board as that they work two jobs and are always exhausted, etc. etc. some of those parents' assumptions about the way in which schools train poor kids vis-a-vis rich kids are fairly otm, unfortunately. but then, the reasons underfunded schools perpetuate that trend are more complex than teachers suck.

estela otfmfmfm and saying all the things I don't dare to

I also gotta say america's casual suspicion of NERDS really rankles me

yeah, cause that's new.

who're you talking to, nerd

this country's flag should actually be a picture of john wayne punching bill gates in the neck

hahahahahaha

mookie, parental support is critical! but they are not the reason why low income schools underperform for reasons horseshoe has explained. my complaint is that more affluent ppl have assumption about poor parents, building on a narrative about poor ppl in general (they are that way bc they are stupid and lazy).

my wife works in a high performing, fairly wealthy public elementary school, and it makes a p big difference when you've got an army of nonworking moms being hella entitled about what their children 'deserve', or a child having two parents who were v successful in school so navigating k-12 ain't no thang for them.

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double hahahahahahah

funding public schools w/ property taxes is pretty fucked up, we should start there when the revolution comes

after giving all the nerds wedgies first though

funding public schools w/ property taxes is pretty fucked up, we should start there when the revolution comes

im saying, if ppl are really desperate for overly-simplistic single-step "fixes" to american public education, this would be the place to start, not teachers unions

your house is worth how much? ok, this is how much money u get for schools.

I dunno seems p logical to me.

the problem is that we're still stuck with the reaganite account that we "throw money" at our public schools and it's accomplished nothing. i can't tell you how many fellow education students i knew who would spout that garbage. i was like, motherfucker come to my school in urban buffalo and show me evidence of any money that has ever been thrown at it. the federal government now pays private companies to supplement the school's services although that mysteriously hasn't seemed to improve test scores at all...somehow this doesn't qualify as "throwing money" at anyone i guess because deserving entrepreneurs get that money instead of communist schools.

i will say this much for linking public education to property taxes, provides for terrific letters to the editor and comments on local news websites

it feels like it's probably more entrenched than even our health care system tho

like I can't imagine how we'd manage a transition away from it (politically)

poor matt damon look what we've done to his thread

matt damon would be proud of us

well actually he'd probably just think we were wasting our time on the internet and not living up to our various potentials

I also propose that we only allow cool kids to go to school

i just meant that absent (beneficial) parental influence a teacher's job is even *harder*. i've no doubt that the wealthy parents are an enormous pain in the ass, but i guess at least they care?

and like i said, dealing with unhappy parents is not something that most jobs require. i've been a little league umpire -- that was bad enough, and reason.tv wasn't denigrating my work

ps i'm pretty sure i'm agreeing with m bison and everything but maybe not expressing it well?

you guys, I am matt damon, I forgot to mention it earlier...and I approve of this thread turning into a policy debate

ahhh i would love for a reason.tv reporter to confront a little league ump

"do you think your services as an umpire could be better-provided by a private conglomerate of umpiring services contracted out by the home team"?

i was watching tv tonight and there was a target commercial with this annoying "enthusiastic" grade school teacher stereotype talking about all the various supplies the kids would need this year, and so of course i thought of this thread, and then wondered if the same people bitching about how their taxes go to fund public education are also the ones who bitch about having to spend so much money on school supplies that were provided free of charge when they were kids.

haha if i were a little league ump *now*, not when i was 13

dude i had to pay for trapper keepers

yeah but let's be real nobody really needs a trapper keeper

haha yeah i guess people with 10 year olds are basically my age now :/

what thread am I in

matt damon is the patron saint of teachers and this thread

is this where I post stuff about Mister Halfway?

anti-libertarian chat and school reform debate, with your host matthew damon

trapper keepers were so bogus I needed to buy a new one every year

well after a whole year spent sticking the pointy end of a compass into the plastic out of boredom what else could we do

matt damon would be proud of us

― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, August 4, 2011 12:19 PM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark

if anyone accused us of only working hard at our posts to avoid getting SBed he would give them a rark-up.

trapper keepers were banned from the quaker school i went to

I owned this one:

http://www.upto88.com/wp-content/uploads/yapb_cache/trapper_keeper.a8cuu7r5rw0sswcwcowg84440.6fglr3z5nhs8ogo0cs4kkwss0.th.jpeg

when i went to public high school though i could get any kind of binder i wanted

i didnt get any binder at all, though. tbh i dont remember owning any school supplies at all during high school

in my ed psych class this fall i was assigned the pro position in a debate on charter schools and school choice and i had to base my argument on an article by a cadre of reagan department of education dudes and at one point it actually said, "we must reinvent the public sphere" and i was like it takes some serious orwellian balls to say "reinvent" when what you mean is "destroy."

tbh i dont remember going to school during high school

http://www.mysanantonio.com/mediaManager/?controllerName=image&action=get&id=1144432&width=628&height=471

there remains to this day, at my dad's house, a trapper keeper full of d&d stuff

matt damon could probably get away with that admission

i remember going to the wawa during high school, definitely

those dudes based their argument on no empirical evidence, by the way, they were just like grrrr centralized bureaucracy is evil privatization uber alles it was so purely ideological an argument it was kind of breathtaking.

man I just remembered I didn't even have trapper keepers, I used a MEAD FIVE STAR, the working man's trapper keeper

http://images.educational-software.com/productImage.html?s=medium&i=64952.jpg

we're still debating educational reform in this country on their terms btw

i remember going to the wawa during high school, definitely

― max, Wednesday, August 3, 2011

high five.

This TK I mentioned is in a closet in my bedroom, full of old poems, report cards, and other harlequined colored folderol from the late eighties.

we're debating everything on their terms

ilxteachers: do kids still use trapper keepers? is anything that isn't digital still considered cool? I imagine anyone under age 10 to be basically a cyborg.

had to be careful though because the pigs were on patrol in all wawa parking lots looking for truants who'd later become professional bloggers.

Also, if you can only process reality in terms of simplistic, direct causation, and either don't have the tools to cognate or refuse to admit how systemic causation plays into things, you're pretty much fucked and will thickly only stomp and cry over this one thing being the obvious reason why the world ain't perfect.

A lot of climate change denial works like this, in that plenty of people who have access to airtime don't have a fully developed part of their brains to think in terms of systems, or are so ideologically zealous that they refuse.

you know what never worked, reinforcements

i saw no trapper keepers in either of my student teaching placements, but some boys did rock the mead five star.

also bieber hair!

90% of my friends were first or second year public school teachers around la, now they all work at charter, private schools or are out of a job

ya'll had wawas near your school? lucky

i just meant that absent (beneficial) parental influence a teacher's job is even *harder*. i've no doubt that the wealthy parents are an enormous pain in the ass, but i guess at least they care?

my point is that poor parents care but lack the time, money, and experience to make it translate to performance in school for the kids

ilxteachers: do kids still use trapper keepers? is anything that isn't digital still considered cool? I imagine anyone under age 10 to be basically a cyborg.

shawty I feel lucky if a motherfucker brings a pencil to class

Trapper keepers had those cheap plastic rings that broke way too easily.

what were you doing -- fucking it?

horseshoe I may have rocked the bieber hair when I rocked the mead five star albeit unintentionally

Trapper Keeper cockrings

dear matt damon: was reagan's quip about "i'm from the government and i'm here to help" the turning point that led to the downfall of the united states?

a couple of them are teachers at art school or are coaches that high schools, those ppl are a lot happier imo

shawty I feel lucky if a motherfucker brings a pencil to class

― davon cuul II (m bison), Wednesday, August 3, 2011 10:33 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah the bieber hair and trapper keepers were at my suburban placement. lol at my first school we kept the kids' composition books in the classroom at all times.

was reagan's quip about "i'm from the government and i'm here to help" the turning point that led to the downfall of the united states?

Read/listen to Thom Hartmann and he pretty much says exactly this

dear matt damon: was reagan's quip about "i'm from the government and i'm here to help" the turning point that led to the downfall of the united states?

no we were fucked way before that, wayyyy before that

h'shoe, imo the only thing charter schools have going for them is the decoupling of where you live and what you school you go to, I guess from n urban policy perspective it wouldnt be terrible if ppl felt more inclined to live in urban areas knowing their kids could go to a school that's decent (hitch: most charter schools are bullshit factories)

every nation is fucked in the long run; where would you draw the line matt damon?

yeah i think if i didn't live in a city with so many bs charter schools i wouldn't feel this way? also they do sap money away from public schools and some kids inevitably don't get into one and are sent back into a public system that no one is invested in anymore.

there was a glut of bieber hair in the korean middle and high schools i visited last year.

i think those boys kind of know what's up tbh; i was teaching seventh graders and the bieber hair boys got way more attention from girls than the crewcut boys.

why were you visiting korean middle and high schools!

haha this thread!!!

every nation is fucked in the long run; where would you draw the line matt damon?

w/ a ridiculous and almost much impossible to change constitution

when did bieber corner the market on emo hair

honestly hopin more dudes rock balhead Damon steez now

never question estela's doings

america is hopeless that's why I'm focusing on africa

good luck with that

feeling pretty confident that we will be imprisoned in cages by robots no later than 2030 so im not too worried

estela's only reading this thread because she's the real jason bourne

god has forsaken this earth, what up moon and mars colinization

m bison btw if i am ever in your part of tx i will buy you a drink and make you bitch with me about school stuff

i thought estela was doing some esl teaching iirc?

haha my wife and I are nothing if not indefatigable sources of school bitchness

xp

estela is having books published in languages iirc

does your wife teach too?

*rain abruptly stops, solitary shaft of light emerges from clouds to shine down on ilx*

yeah guys... i think things are gonna be okay

*gets murdered by private law enforcement for stealing sunlight*

and then calling the publisher and saying 'you look tired today'

my wife is a school psychologist, she on that other level

*gets murdered by private law enforcement for stealing sunlight*

― Magic (Lamp), Wednesday, August 3, 2011 10:45 PM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark

okay lol

y'all laugh but lamp is actually from the future

Philip K. Lamp

how did he get out of his cage

lol

he's not trying to save us, merely get us acclimated to our future of suburbs with armed guards and razor wire fences and really excellent charter schools

he's a bit late then

<3 all u in this thread

and matt damon

I <3ed Matt Damon long before this thread, but now I like him more for even being vaguely associated w this ongoing conversation.

xxxp max, last year i signed up to get tesol certification and the next thing i knew i was selected to go to korea on an all expenses paid study trip. one day we were driven around on a bus and the bus company was called bs tours.

HI Y'ALL I'LL JES CHILL ON THIS ROCK

http://barefoot.provocateuse.com/images/photos/matt_damon_04.jpg

proud of u estela *tips hat*

why are you wearing a hat.

is it a thinking cap.

pfft no it is a top hat

a bosthoon's hat.

http://listsoplenty.com/pix/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Mr-Peanut.jpg

me irl

how did you end up in the trailer for return of the planet of the apes.

i mean rise of.

late to the party but that clip is great and that article about him and water made me love him forever maybe?

thats a photo of me dashing off to be in the trailer for rise of the planet of the apes

you certainly look dashing.

http://confederatearticles.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/dandy.jpg

apes, indeed *raises one eyebrow*

like I am a fucking masochist who reads the local education news stories and every comment is like WELL IF THESE PARENTS WOULD JUST DO THEIR JOB or IF THESE LAZY TEACHERS blah blah it's like, is there an area of policy which so many ppl believe there is only one easily identified problem and it's out of sheer malicious negligence that it doesn't get fixed?
― davon cuul II (m bison), Wednesday, August 3, 2011 8:48 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

i thought tea party folks and libertarians take this approach to EVERY issue

btw hawaii doesn't link school funding to local property taxes IIRC.

pretty boy HAS to play Whitey Bulger

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2011/10/ben-affleck-matt-damon-bring-whitey-bulger-to-the-big-screen/

Both look great in that photo, I must say.

Matt Damon likes Boise and teachers so of course I have to like him!

Watched Ford v. Ferrari - his face now looks like it was carved out of ham.

This is worse than the fucking car commercials pic.twitter.com/u53fjVPbw7

— Edward Ongweso Jr (@bigblackjacobin) January 3, 2022

Isn’t Damon supposed to be an environmentalist?

Matt wisely chose to receive his compensation in non-crypto currency, therefore minimizing the environmental impact of his making that ad.

pic.twitter.com/kuYvznq0AK

— Poorly Aged Things (@PoorlyAgedStuff) January 19, 2022

Crypto.com, which froze withdrawals yesterday, announced that someone hacked the platform for $15 million in ether (4,600 ETH).

This money is now being laundered through Ethereum mixer Tornado Cash in batches of 1,000 ETH

lol!

He was very good in “Air”.

I re-watched Elysium two nights ago having not seen it since it was new. Angry, ripped working-class goon Damon in a really gritty (like, you can almost smell it) sci-fi story of class warfare. The ending falls apart, but he's good throughout and Jodie Foster is a very good villain.

https://imgur.com/gallery/dVFsroE