I am so not "getting" this Instagram thing / do you guys want to look at each others pictures?

Will you guys plz post your usernames so I can look at these pretty photos you're taking?

But like seriously, this shit is so contrived. You can make the incredibly mundane look "so profound, dude" with these stupid filters.

add me 'bsdf'

How in the fuck. I was just going to start this thread.

trebaker. And is there any easy way to look at feeds through a browser on my computer and not on my mobile?

http://instagram.heroku.com is the first web based client but it's not very user friendly

You have some interesting people following you.

But cool. That client was helpful enough.

http://instagram.heroku.com/users/786729

is there an app that makes your photos look like they were taken with a rolleicord iv yet?

I wish there was an app that made your photos look like they were taken by someone who can't take photos

I put that Instagram thing on my phone but then realised it was this whole 'social network' thing and quickly lost interest.

You don't have to share or follow anyone.

You don't? Neato.

Sharing and following is lame imo :)

I was using it as just another lens app before I realized that there was a whole nother thing behind it.

xp but then the only way to explore is to look at the Popular pix page which is pretty terrible imo

i have an older ipod touch that doesn't have a camera. can instagram be used to apply filters to photos that are on your device but weren't taken with it?

I think so. There's a "Load from Library" option.

However, I don't know if the app they're using now will work on an older ipod.

thanks dude!

wait what does instagram 'do' that is worth one billion dollars

it puts...a filter on a photo? and lots of people use it? and that is worth one billion dollars?

its free in the app store no one tell zuck

is facebook gonna monetize hipsters?

hint: a lot (I don't know exactly how much) of the purchase price is in facebook stock, which is probably not actually worth as much as they say it is

I am (surprise surprise) enbb and mostly post pictures of (surprise surprise) my dog.

the facebook stock is almost certainly going to be worth much more than its valued at atm when it goes public in a few months

but yeah I generally find it annoying when people put those cheap instagram-type filters on their photos. The iPhone camera takes such nice photos so easily, and people ruin them with this hazy nostalgia bullshit.

Exactly my thoughts.

iphone camera (at least anything before the 4S) kinda sucks

I don't want to yell 'internet bubble' cause clearly fb and twitter and some things have a value that couldn't really have existed 10 years ago but this is just...a camera filter

wasn't there another identical thing called hipstamatic?

fb and google do this kinda thing all the time tho? buying up technology to integrate it into their own platforms... not that i'm saying instagram is worth ONE BILLION DOLLARS *dr evil pinky* but it's kinda their m.o.

yeah but why do you even need to 'buy up that technology', do they really have a patent on hipster-camera-filters? as hurting said they're not even the first to do this

my guess would be that instagram was working on some kind of expansion and fb caught wind of it and just decided to snatch whatever up whatever it was

instagram's "value" such as it is is in the social network aspect, not the filter aspect

this is just...a camera filter

― iatee, Monday, April 9, 2012 2:27 PM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

naw its a rapidly growing social network w/50m users whos main utility photo sharing is also facebooks main utility - idk abt the price but its obvs why facebook felt they needed to eat them

yeah I guess it makes more sense in that context

I have never used it so I just see the pics *on* fb

ha guessing you all are not instagram users lol xp

really its "buying" 30 million users + ownership of the most popular photo-sharing social network. facebook loves photos b/c theyre significantly more interesting than links or status updates, as measured by the # of ppl who click on them and the amount of time they spned

xp joe otm

i mean that being said 1 billion dollars is hilarious

i want a billion dollars

have you considered making an 'app'

brb making an app

wasn't there another identical thing called hipstamatic?

hipstamatic started out as just a camera filter app. they added on social stuff later after instagram took off.

or what max and joe said.

if i had one the mega millions i would've bought scoopsnoodle for $1 million

won*

so they paid like 35 bucks per user

still smh

no wonder my kids don't want to study math, obviously careers are for fools, i should be sitting around brainstorming the next killer social media platform

number of instagram users should be getting a big bump up now that they have it for android too, the fact that they have as many users as they do and it was iphone only until last week is kinda crazy

they paid $1 per photograph too

its hilarious b/c its so overvalued, but also because like "one billion" is such a funny number

~1million new instagram users is the first 24 hours of andriod

and only $55 million per filter

so really this is just fb being really, really, really risk averse w/r/t competition

hipstamatic could integrate a lot of products (books, prints, postcards) relatively easily. God knows if they'd actually make any money off of them, though.

I've met so many people in the past couple years who just want collab on apps

er, Instagram not hipstamatic. (but them too)

collapps

a billion chinese, mark

hipstamatic's problem is that it's called hipstamatic

I dunno, everything has a stupid name these days

did I post about how I met one dude who wanted to create some kind of app where you could trade stocks within some graphic framework that had lasers and explosions, like you are in some sort of virtual high octane vid game action movie etrade world or something

he was 100% serious too

so they paid like 35 bucks per user

― the late great, Monday, April 9, 2012 2:37 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i wonder if part of facebooks thinking is theyre abt to go public and theyll be getting more than $35 per user so they could actually make money off the deal as soon as they ipo

that sounds kinda fun xp

I've not read anything about this being Internet Bubble 2.0 only for billions more - am I just not seeing it, or is everyone just kinda looking the other way?

challaps

How about an app where you can share your challops with your friends? Call it 'challapp'.

instagram is also a big image service for twitter users so its a way for facebook to get some inroads to twitter

xp oh balls flopson got there first plz don't sue me

well everyone pretty clearly looked the wrong way on groupon

sorry already sued you plz pay 1 billion dollars

I've not read anything about this being Internet Bubble 2.0 only for billions more - am I just not seeing it, or is everyone just kinda looking the other way?

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, April 9, 2012 2:43 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no this is definitely talked about in the financial press, with the same kind of hedgy language that you probably see before any bubble burts, although tbf this actually isn't really as big a bubble in terms of sheer numbers of ridiculously valued companies.

the other guy who was trying to get me to collapps was using the "fart app" from a while ago (that got bought for like a milli) as his example over and over of what is possible, like it was the pinnacle of apps, or for some reason it was the perfect app to explain every part of his ideas w/

xxp Fortunately I foresaw this and invented a currency called 'snoball dollars' - current exchange rate is about a trillion snoball dollars to the US$.

I've not read anything about this being Internet Bubble 2.0 only for billions more - am I just not seeing it, or is everyone just kinda looking the other way?

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, April 9, 2012 2:43 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

people talk abt this all the time at least in the tech media, maybe its not as much of a mainstream story because most of these companies are still privately held where the 1st tech bubble was all in the stock market

hearing people who just want to develop shit for money talk irl scares the fuck out of me

I don't know if you can call this a bubble, there is srs, srs money in having detailed personal information on every single human in america, but there will be a limited number of winners

I always feel like I should ask them if they've ever asked themselves why they're alive but then again I post on the internet so who g'saf

I wanted to design a bar bingo app that could be tailored to fit whatever kind of bar you're at

a) I don't know how to program
b) I figured it would have to be social with leaderboards and Foursquare type coupons from bars and shit, but I don't know to do it
c) there are probably already 40 of these

hint: the public won't be one of the winners.

well the first internet bubble had the same qualities -- legit value underneath some of it, limited number of winners.

also I only hang out in dive bars, so the bingo app would be limited for pretty much everything else

yeah but the original internet bubble was built on assuming things about the way people were gonna use the internet that were wayyy out of line w/ how the internet was being used at the time.

hipstamatic could integrate a lot of products (books, prints, postcards) relatively easily. God knows if they'd actually make any money off of them, though.

er, Instagram not hipstamatic. (but them too)

from what I understand (e.g. reading one article on some camera blog) the Instagram photos aren't good enough to make prints off of. they're just web quality. (might be a bandwidth thing, even at the quality they are now it takes forever to load your feed and you have to have a good connection on your phone)

Hipstamatic photos are saved at higher quality and they do offer prints

i have a bunch of app ideas, feel free to PM me if u are a VC

I don't know if you can call this a bubble, there is srs, srs money in having detailed personal information on every single human in america, but there will be a limited number of winners

― iatee, Monday, April 9, 2012 2:47 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i mean big companies came out of the last bubble too, maybe its just all ~creative destruction~ & the gamification of reality

instagram is also a big image service for twitter users so its a way for facebook to get some inroads to twitter

otm a lot of people just use it as a less annoying Plixi with square cropping

Why are the pictures people take worth so much to Facebook and Instagram?

I assume that this is a big part of it. In 2092, the U.S. Department of Commerce with the Bureau of Census and Online Media will release the first installment of the 2020 Tumblr and Facebook profiles.

Instagram makes full-resolution (for the iPhone/iPad camera and given the square crop) files. They should be good for 8x8 prints now.

the Instagram filters can be bad, but square is a more sensible format for what people use cell phones for than the oddball vertical format of the iPhone.

btw instagram has like 15 employees everyone

yeah i mean big companies came out of the last bubble too, maybe its just all ~creative destruction~ & the gamification of reality

yeah I agree but the underlying assumptions about what was going to happen in the late 90s seemed 'more optimistic' than they do today, which allowed for a bigger bubble. there def will be winners and the giants today are a lot more savvy than the giants back then.

"gamification of reality" hopefully also a bubble

reality is a bubble

Why are the pictures people take worth so much to Facebook and Instagram?

When you post a picture on Instagram and then share it with your friends, Instagram know who your friends are, and can build up a map of who knows who. And this is worth $$$, somehow.

because Facebook and now Instagram are really just NSA fronts

its all data mining to figure out who to strip search is the bottom line

I think one way the social shit might end up looking more like a bubble is if a large and sustained campaign for privacy builds.

http://i.imgur.com/I8lwQ.jpg

was twitter ever valued at one billion dollars

facebok wants peoples pictures because people click on photos more than text updates and links, and they spend more time looking at photos

also I'm not that surprised considering Draw Something sold for like $200 million a few weeks ago

Just saw on Twitter: "Facebook buying Instagram to provide seamless integration between photos of your dinner and the people who don't want to see them."

p sure fb bought instagram so they could insert a crude drawing of a penis into everybody's pictures, good prank zuck

i mean im sure theres some kind of data mining aspect but mostly its an engagement thing. photos mean more time spent on facebook and more links followed.

was twitter ever valued at one billion dollars

― swaghand (dayo), Monday, April 9, 2012 3:02 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im sure its currently more

I think draw something was pretty similar to this in that zynga saw it as a potential large game company and just wanted to squash it

brb coding 'twitter shitter' app

was twitter ever valued at one billion dollars

― swaghand (dayo), Monday, April 9, 2012 3:02 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im sure its currently more

― lag∞n, Monday, April 9, 2012 3:03 PM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

7b internet says

they could have saved $200m by just playing draw something and realizing how it gets boring after like 2 days but instead they just looked at how many users it had and wrote a check

Yeah the backlash over this is p funny and extremely pointless. But yeah i suppose some people just need something to talk about.

7b tweets

A friend of mine who works in tech told me the thing about facebook increasingly being seen as "for old people" by the young and I kind of didn't believe it, but now I can totally see it becoming the AOL of tomorrow.

what was yahoo gonna get sold at back when companies still wanted to buy yahoo

that almost gives me hope for the future, kids can take down this awful company

I mean it's just the inevitable thing of it being impossible for something to stay cool and also have your mom on it.

it'll be replaced by some justin-bieber-social-network or something but still

brb coding 'twitter shitter' app

― they do do doo doo sandwiches (snoball), Monday, April 9, 2012 3:04 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Too late dawg http://www.getshitter.com/

obviously that means fb needs to branch out with exciting new hip variants like facebook: code red and facebook: baja blast

I think hating on Facebook is probably the cool thing among the young, but yeah those ppl also have to check their phone every time someone comments on a post like 10x a day.

I would love it if 29,999,997 Instagram users stopped using Instagram tomorrow in disgust, meaning that Facebook has paid $1B for 3 people's details.

btw whatever Twitter is valued at their cash flow is balls. The company I work for just ventured into the world of Twitter advertising (or "promoted products" lol) and they expect all their advertisers to be never-ending money faucets.

Too late dawg http://www.getshitter.com/

I've hardly used Twitter, so I'll probably only get two squares of paper. Better cut out the high fibre diet.

brb coding 'yourmomdefinitelywontbeondisting' app

In my case 'dis ting' is the entire internet, so wvs...

http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/instagram_logo.png http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/b9e75d38827211e1989612313815112c_7.jpg

A friend of mine who works in tech told me the thing about facebook increasingly being seen as "for old people" by the young and I kind of didn't believe it, but now I can totally see it becoming the AOL of tomorrow.

― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Monday, April 9, 2012 3:05 PM (2 minutes ago)

if somebody develops a useful alternative they could capitalize on this disaffection but there aren't any real competitors atm. I have some late teens/early 20s friends on FB from the local music scene, one posted that he was going back to myspace and everybody kind of laughed at him.

google couldn't pull off a viable vehicle and they were already in the catbird seat. if it does happen it will prolly come out of left field.

the buying of instagram was a great boon for graphic designers who work at tech news sites

one thing that's interesting about this is that, well, can the social giants always and forever just eat their competition? millions of people can start using something new very, very quickly...it in some ways justifies the draw something / instagram prices but you can't do that indefinitely when it's so easy to compete.

if somebody develops a useful alternative they could capitalize on this disaffection but there aren't any real competitors atm.

― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, April 9, 2012 3:18 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

see but the thing is the next facebook isnt a facebook clone, it doesnt need to be an alternative, it just needs to be the next thing people will dick around with every day, which is why instagram was more dangerous to fb than google+

implicit in "useful alternative" is something that has legs, it obv doesn't have to (and prolly won't) be an fb clone (tho fb was not substantially diff than friendster or myspace)

stuff like instagram is a challenge to fb in terms of stealing a user's time from fb, but as a challenge to their hegemony, no

FB = nu-AOL is very apt metaphor imho

"f*** facebook goodbye" looks like a shop

stuff like instagram is a challenge to fb in terms of stealing a user's time from fb, but as a challenge to their hegemony, no

― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, April 9, 2012 3:30 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if users dont spend time on facebook what hegemony do they have exactly

I dunno, it's like how much time ppl spend at the macaroni grill not connected to the mall vs in the mall itself, it's still most likely a 80/20 split, and macaroni grill is never going to BE the mall

also hipstamatic 4 lyfe, stupid name or no

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/white_mountains.jpg

and according to my palm pilot anybody can be nu-AOL

How many 'fuck facebook!' posts are going to be posted on facebook today?

what were your guys' fav aol dailup noises

I dunno, it's like how much time ppl spend at the macaroni grill not connected to the mall vs in the mall itself, it's still most likely a 80/20 split, and macaroni grill is never going to BE the mall

― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, April 9, 2012 3:45 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if instagram steals facebooks photos and twitter steals their status updates and foursquare takes location and blah blah etc soon theres nothing people use facebook for anymore and the mall sits defunct and forlorn

its ironic that fb has spent all this energy trying to be everything to everyone when people seem more n more happy to use diff services for each thing, sometimes they route that stuff through fb but increasingly not so much

malls are also dying btw

because of the internet... lol

that internet will never kill the macaroni grill

^^lyrics to my new song

brb writing a macaroni app

when i make a billion off my dating site tenderoni grill i don't wanna any of y'all coming to me for handouts

FB = nu-AOL is very apt metaphor imho

― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Monday, April 9, 2012 3:37 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, this is one of those interesting internet class/education things, as more people start using FB you have more people -- usually older, poorer, ppl with fewer years of schooling -- using it "wrong" (this is kind of bill hitchert's thing), which means the tech bros and the youngs will go somewhere else for the social stuff. instagram is probably a good bet for a place theyd jump, which is one reason facebook bought it, and one reason people are freaking out about it

path is totally better than instagram via my personal experience of using neither of them

i mean compare w/ last week when instagram introduced the android version of the app and tons of instagram users freaked out b/c all the poors would start posting photos

i tried path, i really did, but fuck that

based mostly on the fact that instgram has those stupid filters and uses the words quirky to describe themselves

prepare yrself now for the backlash against quirk

im launching a new backlash sharing app called quirk

well this goes back to what I said above - if fb really feels threatened enough to drop a billion on these dudes, is its hold on social networking really as strong as people think?

idea for iphone app:
Redophane -- makes it so that when you look at stuff through your iphone camera, it looks like you're looking through a red piece of cellophane.

ive pivoted and now quirky is an augmented reality app where you look through yr iphone and everything in the world is worthy of backlash

high dynamic range will be the new trend in social media photos and everything is gonna look super awesome and gross, get ready

http://static.blinqphotography.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/hdr-truck.jpg

http://oldpeoplefacebook.tumblr.com

xp why does that picture look like something that would have been airbrushed on the side of a panel van sometime in the late 70's?

A: "Whatcha sprayin' on yer van, buddy?"
B: "The van I'm gonna be drivin' in thirty years time!"

if fb really feels threatened enough to drop a billion on these dudes, is its hold on social networking really as strong as people think?

it may be less a matter of "feeling threatened" and more one of seeing opportunities, preferring co-option to combat, etc.

LDR versions of HDR photos always look super weird

or low-rez, i guess i should say

seeing opportunities...in filters...on pictures

one billion dollars worth of opportunities

Seeing opportunities in grabbing all the personal details of all the people who apply filters to their pictures.

But as Lincoln said, you can't have all of the personal details of all of the people all of the time, because, erm... they stop using your website and then shoot you in a theatre. Or something...

and they way they share them, and follow them, and the idea that this might be worked into FB. makes good sense to me, especially if it's as popular as they say.

xxxp I saw LDR and thought "Lana Del Ray? Huh?"

really though I'm not really prepared to think anything until I get the take of a markers on this

if instagram steals facebooks photos and twitter steals their status updates and foursquare takes location and blah blah etc soon theres nothing people use facebook for anymore and the mall sits defunct and forlorn

its ironic that fb has spent all this energy trying to be everything to everyone when people seem more n more happy to use diff services for each thing, sometimes they route that stuff through fb but increasingly not so much

― lag∞n, Monday, April 9, 2012 3:53 PM (26 minutes ago)

*certain* ppl are happy to use diff services for each thing - but fb still trounces everybody else in terms of users and visitors, and if they're able to successfully absorb serious competitors they can guard their flanks. the trouble will come by A) distinguishing serious competitors from the thousands of flash in the pan timewasters like formspring, B) competitors that have something which can't be easily absorbed into facebook's hive of villainy, or C) competitors that flat our refuse to be acquired because they think they can take the crown. frankly C is prolly the most dangerous type of threat to fb, tho A could collapse them under their own rome-like weight.

c/r the last time I checked in on twitter fwiw

facebook both seems like the best guess for 'tech company that won't exist in 20 years' and 'only tech company that will exist in 20 years'

(w/r/t the amazon/google/fb/microsoft/apple 'giants')

groupon will not exist in 2 years

brb starting poopon, social network for scat enthusiasts

I think I posted about my plan to start grouporn.com in the "terrible ideas" thread

it would basically be social coupons for porn, which is why it's a terrible idea

Already been done.
http://www.poopon.it/

lol @ ".it"

I had to double-take for a moment, at first thinking it was an Italian site.

Like I was asking myself if poop jokes were big in Italy.

brb making hostile takeover bid for http://www.poopon.it/

poopon.de

poopon.me
poopon.us
poopon.yu

Facebook seems like the hardest to replace of all the big social things. I haven't looked at Twitter since I downloaded Zite (I was mostly using Twitter for interesting links - I don't really give a shit what celebs think about 140 characters at a time), I never see G+, I never look at the social aspect of Instagram (use the app to take a picture, post to FB sometimes), etc..

fb the web site is super easy to replace, fb the network of 'everyone on the world who does not live in china' is not

the weird thing about instagram as social network is that it's pretty hard to discover new stuff on it, I don't ever really "stumble across" anything on it without a good amount of effort (looking at photos that the other people you're following have liked is the best way I guess)

people who have a lot of fans on instagram seem to do it through using 8 million hashtags on every photo which is just super tedious and dumb

I don't really understand the backlash here, it's mostly coming from people that check their FB like all day on who commented on their Instagram posts and it doesn't make any sense other than yeah it's cool to hate FB.

how come instagram ate flickr's lunch?

(NB have never used the former, but use flickr on the reg)

flickr can't decide if it wants to be social or professional

also (I'm guessing) really bad iphone integration

yeah the flickr app is pretty terrible

lol flickr

wait a minute everybody, markers has an opinion about flickr

I never started a flickr account cause I realized putting my photos on the site just made me feel like a shitty photographer

whereas stuff like instagram makes everyone feel like a great photographer

My flickr profile has no coherence since it's half shitty cell phone pics from 2006 and half semi-artsy pictures I took on vacation.

yeah i get the feeling that a lot of people see flickr as like a permanent showcase instead of a streaming conversation, there a hesitation to use it unless you're really "proud" of a particular picture.. i guess instagram is more disposable and immediate, like a tweet rather than a blog post? if so, i can see why they're considered competitors for FB, or something that FB wants to own

flickr was around at the right point to where they could have diverged and done well in multiple spaces, but instead Yahoo bought them and then did jack shit for yeeeears

flickr really did seem like the future for a little while.. it was the first real "web page that acts like a full-featured app" that i ever saw.

I think flickr actually costs yahoo money because of the unlimited storage for pro accounts, idk

instagram prob largely own its success to the fact that its not a full featured app

like you open it and the camera is on, you press a button to take a picture, then you press another button to share

Nah, not for that reason, at least. Storage for photos is relatively cheap, even now with really high-res ones.

i actually pay real money to flickr yearly. does anyone do that with instagram?

instagram wins because their entire product has one use, and they're just starting to flip into a second by letting third-party apps send pictures to their cloud. Pretty much one of the best cases of doing one thing really well.

the pictures I take with it always look shitty so I don't use it

nah instagram had no revenue at all
xp

"We don’t plan on doing many more of these, if any at all." - zuck

does not sound like a guy who is super thrilled bout his billion dollar baby

He's taken it as far as it could possibly go based on its original functionality. Now the only thing left to do is progressively convert it into a multi-billion dollar, nearly useless, privacy-destroying piece of shit. So, where's the fun in that?

"We don’t plan on doing many more of these, if any at all." - zuck

Even Google - by whom almost every single startup dreams of getting bought up - haven't acquired that many companies (100 or so iirc). This is Facebook's equivalent of the YouTube acquisition - but YouTube already was one of the biggest websites on earth and Instagram is a currently popular phone app. Obviously I'm lol old and can't understand this new world of upside-down commerce.

youtube for $1.65b vs. instagram for $1b

okay I just dl'd this stupid app, it is a lot more like an entire social network than i thought

being a preteen today seems really bleak

nothing a lil adderall wont fix

http://gigaom.com/2012/04/09/here-is-why-did-facebook-bought-instagram/

Facebook was scared shitless and knew that for first time in its life it arguably had a competitor that could not only eat its lunch, but also destroy its future prospects. Why? Because Facebook is essentially about photos, and Instagram had found and attacked Facebook’s achilles heel — mobile photo sharing.

Basically, instagram has its mobile platform down pat and fb, even though its usable on mobile devices, is not MADE FOR mobile devices. Zuck just bought the infrastructure to remedy that.

I doubt that the infrastructure the 12 people at instagram built is better than whatever mobile shit fb is working on

hahaha

does that mean I can share something on fb from my phone? cuz that would be worth $1b

achilles heel for lunch, zuck

'does that mean I can share something on fb from my phone? cuz that would be worth $1b'

you can do that already

'I doubt that the infrastructure the 12 people at instagram built is better than whatever mobile shit fb is working on'

the infrastructure probably not; the app, yes. instagram is one of the best UX experiences I've ever seen for a mobile app. incredibly easy to use.

still, yeah, no revenue and no apparent plan for revenue. I don't blame them for selling. fb bought it because it could afford to and was scared that instagram getting 500 mil in funding last week meant that it was on the verge of doing something bigger that was going to be a threat. in this sense, this makes fb start to look like a monopoly, or microsoft or some shit.

big props to instagram for negotiating their way into 1 BILL-ION DOLLARS

'does that mean I can share something on fb from my phone? cuz that would be worth $1b'

you can do that already

how?! I've used the fb mobile app on a couple diff phones and there's never a share button next to links and posts, just like and comment

this info is worth at least $500m to me

I doubt that the infrastructure the 12 people at instagram built is better than whatever mobile shit fb is working on

― iatee, Monday, April 9, 2012 9:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nah theres a good chance it is, just by virtue of the fact that facebook has been in existence as a website for nearly a decade now and has only lately been trying to build a mobile platform on top of that (and doing a bad job), whereas instagram is built *for* mobile. building platforms that work seamlessly with all the same features between desktop and mobile is pretty hard, and probably even harder on a site like facebook where you have both a large company and a massive user base. twitter is the only company i can think of that actually pulls it off.

idk I figured they prob have people working on something from scratch

I don't know anything about coding but when fb was created in 2004 or w/e, not sure the zuck anticipated it growing to include half the western world, from what I've heard fb has had problems scaling up their database infrastructure et cetera, hard to do when the world counts on you to be have an uptime of 100%, you can't just take it down for a week to transfer everything into the sleek new scaleable database your $500000/yr programmer bro just designed

yeah but you can't just say 'okay let's dl all of fb onto this awesome instagram platform' either

like, mobile is pretty clearly the future of the $100 billion company, surely there was something in the works

not sure the zuck anticipated it growing to include half the western world

yeah...he anticipated it growing to include the entire western world

I think facebook has some good devops people and software engineers, but I'm not sure if they've got everything pointed in the right direction! I know that several years ago their general direction was to work on creating a backend that would optimize the hell out of their existing codebase and give them the ability to continue working in the same languages while letting the site perform. Whether they've retooled, I have no idea.

Instagram is all amazon/s3/cloud-deployed, right? I think you gain a lot from starting from that approach in that if you do it right you are concentrating on scaling and the ability to dynamically add resources from the start.

yeah but they could start from that approach w/o dropping a billion dollars

There's no way facebook or anyone else would have to actually take down a system to transfer to a new one, though. Might be some hiccups across regions and some weirdness with notifications, but I doubt we'd tell the difference since that happens anyway.

I think for them to do it they would have had to create a separate facebook iphone photo app, then people would get confused

if you're talking about infrastructure (databases for account authentication, user profiles, image storage) then that is the same for mobile or web.

client/app/mobile web interface is entirely separate from that.

xp No, certainly, buying Instagram is more about buying the user base and the whole package. A team of good engineers could create their own Instagram, but no one is going to jump over to a duplicate product.

dayo, facebook has their own Messages app, though! I see no real issue with multiple facebook apps.

akm otm, although I think that facebook's website doesn't actually call their APIs, public or external, and that's one of their big issues.

or *internal* I mean. I think they really do have sloppy direct-at-data store calls.

edward III, do you use fb mobile through the app or via their web interface on the phone?

'facebook's website doesn't actually call their APIs'

their apis are awful actually. have you tried to use them? their documentation is a fucking nightmare, they depricate things all the time and don't really tell you; they introduced and then killed this fbml thing in like 2 years. now the only fb apps I ever had to use and/or build don't work. I hate dealing with it.

mh otm

'certainly, buying Instagram is more about buying the user base and the whole package.'

right. but its an exorbiant buy.

I work(ed) for KodakGallery until last week. We have a pretty cool event photo sharing app; plus a website and a whole product line. But we're tied to eastman kodak which means we're going down the toilet and up for sale. First bid? Shutterfly, who have worse products and a worse experience overall; but Shutterfuly ONLY wants to buy the membership base to cut down on their competitors and will kill the rest of the company. If they win the auction, they'll have gotten millions of users for 23 million. Bargain price. But compare that to this buy. 1 billion for a membership base? Really? FB is saying they will let instagram run as is and not interfere with it or force anything on the members; maybe because they would face a big backlash on it; but that is a LOT of money to buy something that you aren't going to 'do anything' to.

Yeah, I have no idea what the real goal is, and maybe there isn't a solid one. Zuckerberg seems kind of cool on the whole deal in media quotes, right? I kind of wonder if this was a consensus board pick or if there's something going on the business side of things.

Either that or they're real dicks and don't trust what their internal mobile app programmers say -- which may be the case, since at least one guy left because he was kind of bored -- and they're going to have some Instagram guys guide their mobile team.

Remember, you can have the best people working for you, but anyone you hire to give you direction will always be better. Or so management always seems to think.

well its a membership base and also a play to stop instagram from overtaking facebook

that to me seems to explain 90% of it

yeah. i mean i should be clear that $1 billion is ridiculous no matter which way you slice it unless instagram is just like an office filled with $2 billion and the 11 employees are all security guards or something

idk, that might be the lowest amount of money that facebook considers pulling out their pocketbook for

that's a good point, maybe zuckerberg just forgot all digits smaller than a billion

biking in to work today i really wished i had gotten a job in palo alto instead of going to grad school

in other words i am so not 'getting' this instagram thing

it's ok, I witnessed my high school friend who founded p1nterest getting grief from his family for not being a doctor a few months ago

lol @ "fbml". worst company

fbml wasn't a horrible idea but kind of betrays the fact they're still in a php or even coldfusion mentality

like seriously, guys, they created a php compiler and optimizer and shit, I think they're mentally ill

oh, sorry, it's a converter that changes php to c++ and it's called "hiphop"

shoot me

how well did you know mr.p1nt3r3st mh?

We both did science fair, went to the same magnet school for AP classes and the like, had a computer science class together. Sadly I knew only a bit about said website when he was in town and he was like "man, I don't know anyone else here and don't want to talk to the other speakers all day, let's chill over lunch"

so, not that well, but enough to shoot the shit I guess

I'm not even sure I believe this 100% but a lazy thought is that Facebook's brand has never been about cutting-edge technology, at least compared to Google...it was initially about game-changing usability and now it's really just about the fact that everyone you know is there. Most of their attempts to expand the feature set have met opposition or apathy. I know they do have some really clever people working for them and obv they have to juggle massive amounts of real-time data but idk I feel the tech aspects are probably not beyond the reach of a potential competitor.

that will probably always be the case with social networks tho

like facebook's goal is gonna be to institutionalize itself as much as possible but in the longer term it's still gonna be easier for 100m people to switch to new networks

the underlying technology has nothing to do w/this at all, fackbook has tons of dudes and tons of money they can code the shit out of whatever they want, of course there will always haxors sniping at their php or w/e online, they are im sure crying themselves to sleep on pillows stuffed w/million dollar bills

feel like 'facebook is about photos' or 'what people use facebook for is essentially photos' is wrong

oh, sorry, it's a converter that changes php to c++ and it's called "hiphop"

shoot me

hahaha, FB is the new AOL!

otoh i just looked at path (which i had never heard of) (lol old) and closed the website in rage because my options were 'watch the demo' and 'watch the trailer', so maybe i just don't understand that everyone in my generation is illiterate

its a simplification but it has been repeatedly proved that the thing people use facebook for the most is photos

if i go on facebook and send one important message and click through a gallery of 100 photos because i am bored i do not think that means i am getting 100x as much use out of photos

its a simplification but it has been repeatedly proved that the thing people use facebook for the most is photos

― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:35 AM

its even implied in the name "facebook"

there are lots of other ways to send one important message

1 weird tip

and that totally doesnt describe most Facebook usage, I cant recall the last time I went on there to do something important, it's all abt dicking around

my dicking around is of vital importance tbf

I think the main way to make inroads on facebook is via the young (probably college age and younger) who will want something where NOT everyone is on it. Was it not initially the air of exclusivity that helped to launch facebook as a brand? Of course now it's morphed into something totally different, and it is institutionalized, in fact it's almost become a kind of utility -- a combination universal phone book, universal yearbook, universal greeting card conduit, e-mail system, chat system, photo album, etc. You don't do it because it's cool anymore, you do it because it's useful. But some college kid will come up with something that's appealing to young people and revolting or bewildering or just unavailable to older people and that will gradually eat into fb, eventually. It probably won't be just an edgier fb, it will be something paradigmatically different.

well myspace actually had younger users, fb had elitism

they pretty much opened up the site college by college going by the us news rankings

if i go on facebook and send one important message and click through a gallery of 100 photos because i am bored i do not think that means i am getting 100x as much use out of photos

― thomp, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:37 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well, YOU arent, but facebook is

this is already happening, thus purchasing instagram, theyd buy twitter in a second if they could too xp hurting

lol google+

I use facebook so I know it's not cool

if i go on facebook and send one important message and click through a gallery of 100 photos because i am bored i do not think that means i am getting 100x as much use out of photos

― thomp, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:37 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well, YOU arent, but facebook is

― max, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:43 (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ads refresh three times when i write that message and not at all when i click through the photos iirc

k so theyre getting 30x as much use out of photos

ime 'important messages' are increasingly taking the form of fb photos, i.e. sonograms

i have plenty of feelings about this phenomenon (not good) but that's neither here nor there

nah, they're getting 30^0.3x as much use - xp

pwned by math

thomp your individual experience on fb is probably not something you should consider representative of a half billion people

i don't know, possibly it's because fb came in when i was an undergrad, and since then i have spend three years dicking around then gone back to school (sigh) -- it seems like everyone i have known in my 20s has been more contactable via facebook than via any other internet medium, and uses that for making most of the arrangements about their social lives. probably these people would stop if facebook suddenly turned into timbernersleebook overnight but i still don't think it is true that graphical dingdongs are a large part of the appeal

ha, xpost

well myspace actually had younger users, fb had elitism

― iatee, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:42 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

myspace was also very susceptible to spam and general ugliness. myspace pages became kind of miserable. and they got bought by a company that proabably had the least idea of anyone what to do with it.

yeah IME people actually do use facebook for a lot of important shit. For example, it's become the central repository of photographs of my baby for three generations of family spread across the globe.

also (mainly bcz i don't have any friends) my 'individual facebook experience' is more like:

- open facebook
- click on qrank
- refresh until qrank actually works
- play qrank
- close facebook
- hate myself

srsly my Israeli grandfather-in-law gets on fb and posts shit like "thek you for sending the puctures to us"

- open facebook
- is anyone else in my life actually doing something more interesting than me
- comment on that thing
- post a picture of my cat

I don't understand what FB has gotten wrong with pictures and mobile picture uploads? It's easy to upload from my phone when I want to, and I'm constantly seeing other peoples' pictures (until I unsubscribe from Photos of Y)

edward III, do you use fb mobile through the app or via their web interface on the phone?

― akm, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:09 AM (1 hour ago)

thru the app... I know you can go into desktop mode on the browser vers to share but it's such a basic function idk why the app can't do it (attn hackers, prolly an attack surface)

yeah I don't know how it is from other phones but on an iPhone it's very easy to take a photo and send it straight to facebook as it is if you have the app.

The thing is, every camera app on iOS that lets you post images to facebook does it better than facebook itself.

the Facebook app is truly terrible for posting photos

like, it is not at all difficult, and compared to a few years ago, it's like... damn! I can put pictures on facebook

then you use instagram or camera+ or something and it's like two button pushes and one of them was the actual click to take the picture

don't basically all android phones have 'share to facebook' as an option whenever you take a photo via the onboard camera app? it had never occurred to me to try and put photos on facebook via the facebook app

having looked it is remarkably difficult to do that

oh I actually assumed the "share to facebook" option on the iphone was a result of installing the app. Maybe it's just the iphone.

i'm actually just like my older relatives in that i didn't really start using facebook until my wife and all our other friends/relatives started using that as the primary place to share pictures of our/their kids. like if anyone sends me messages on FB i'm like "here's my e-mail address, let's talk there" but i'll actually go on FB to see the pictures everyone put up of the easter egg hunt we had the other day. so i totally get the whole photocentric facebook experience thing.

oh I actually assumed the "share to facebook" option on the iphone was a result of installing the app. Maybe it's just the iphone.

― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:02 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this option does not exist on the native camera app, u can tweet tho

mainly what i have learnt from this is that america has a thing called a 'macaroni grill'

It's the destination of choice for out-of-towners to go for a "fancy" meal. It eclipsed Olive Garden in this aspect a few years ago.

every time i hear about one of these things i go 'that is ridiculous' and then i go to the website and look at every item on the menu and go, okay, i'd eat that

apparently they will deep fry little balls of mac and cheese and serve them to you with a truffle dip

yeah, that part is probably pretty ok

some foreigners should come over and make one of those fish out of water docs abt all the amazing casual dining chains America has to offer

We really do have the fat+sugar balance to a point where you're like "man this food is made of total bullshit but I feel like I should finish this oversized platter"

is there any way i can volunteer to take this particular carbohydrate bullet

god, they have a whole selection of random things they've fried and put on a plate with a dip and it's called 'italian tapas'

I assume the lack of Share to FB in the iPhone camera is Apple's fault.

Seems like a standalone FB camera app would have cost less than a billi.

It absolutely would, just like Dailymotion could've been had for less than Youtube. EXCEPT, people actually use Youtube.

I don't see those as equivalent. People don't use DailyMotion to put stuff on Youtube. YouTube is a content hub, Instagram isn't.

Instagram IS a content hub, though.

one thing I kind of wonder as an aside is why Vimeo, which is so much nicer than Youtube, wound up not really taking off, or at least I think it didn't

vimeo is high class youtube

I like that Vimeo markets itself more to filmmakers and proper productions whereas Youtube has always been the place people upload phonecam footage. The world is big enough for both to exist imo.

idk but youtube seems to have integrated 'social' much better w/ video responses and vlogs and stuff

vimeo is where you go to show off that cute little short you made w/ an illegal copy of final cut pro you copped from your film school grad roommates

yeah maybe vimeo's model is to stay higher quality and more specialized and limited.

youtube was the first video site whos player worked good, end of story

^^

youtube's player still works like crap though : (

it works good tho

didn't sign up to the instagram thing before because i thought you it did everything with that horrible filter that makes all photos look identical

signed up yesterday, immediately saw why fb considered this a threat, interface is great and more importantly i saw friends on there using it regularly, that aren't really on fb so much

where does this leave flickr? feel like really this should be been flickr. I'm a flickr user, i like the user base - not quite sure what i want - i shoot film too - i guess will use both but in different ways

will not ever use this after seeing all the Bieber fans photos on tweeter. eurgh creepy fuckers.

damn tweens with their pop idols *shakes fist*

they will deep fry little balls of mac and cheese

not on topic but I must emphasize that deep fried mac and cheese is properly served in wedges, not balls

http://allthingsd.com/20120423/that-1b-for-instagram-that-would-be-23m-shares-of-facebook-and-300m-in-cash-plus-a-200m-termination-fee/

So apparently the $1B = $300m cash plus 23m shares (which would make the shares worth $31/each and value Facebook at $77B if the numbers are right)

With all due respect to anyone here who's done this, stop posting snapshots of album covers or whatever the hell is playing on your iTunes.

So how many people are going to migrate over to the Flickr app?

tbh I don't really care if instagram 'makes money' from my pictures, I don't put my best work on there

Yeah, if they ever saw fit to use some crap I'd posted on there, then they'd really be scraping the barrel. However, whenever everybody ends up in one place and then decides to scatter, it's nice to have a (mostly) unanimous landing spot.

Preparing for the eventual "I'm a paid Flickr user - now and forever" YouTube supercut.

(I'm a paid Flickr user - now and forever!)

idk i'm pretty lazy about engaging with rights agreements & being concerned about copyright when it's entering the realm of the theoretical but this seems so cynical & dubious to me. like it already sounds like the kind of thing you can hear some shamefaced ceo retracting in a couple of weeks because it sounds like the kind of thing to trigger the righteous, petition-circulating libertarian tendencies of internet users. it isn't a million miles away from the thing about amoeba digitising other artists' records & selling them for profit - the idea that you host your photos somewhere & then that some hotel licenses one of them & a corporation makes fifty five cents on it seems super gross & depressing to me.

yeah now that Ithink about it I wonder if they could do some sort of revenue sharing model? like 30/70 splits between instagram/the user? idk

spotify for pictures

ppl seem to think that a mass majority of instagram users/young people wouldn't die of happiness if one of their photos was used in an ad regardless of compensation fundamentally misunderstands the entire generation

let me rephrase:

ppl seem to think that a mass majority of instagram users/young people wouldn't die of happiness if one of their photos was used in an ad regardless of compensation and that fundamentally misunderstands the entire generation

I don't think that's true, it's really easy to get people upset about stuff. like if it were a one time thing or something whatever, but if pepsi is running billion dollar ad campaigns and using instagram pics on a regular basis, you think that info is not gonna set anyone off? see: amanda palmer thing

Yeah maybe they would be happy for a day or a week but once all their friends ask them how rich they are getting (cos everything in the media makes people rich) they'd probably have second thoughts about it.

this isnt going to be used for million dollar ad campaigns anyway, theyre not going to use jordans pic for pepsi, theyre going to use jordans pic to sell like 8 of his friends something theyve been microtargeted on

i sorta feel you, it becomes prestige-y, like some strange colour in the ebay-user star spectrum, but i feel like there's a difference between seeing your holiday photo blown up & nicely accessorised on the page, & just knowing that your photo (/maybe even you!) is being used on a car company's website or in hotel literature for somewhere you don't give a shit about. this just feels so textbook-reason-for-an-indignant-reception, at least if there's a visible faction calling facebook out on it & presenting it as cheap theft, which there is.

additional complications to the mixtape economy

I think the amanda-palmer-reaction is still gonna hold.

xp

I thought s1ocki's cat pictures were already a viral campaign for his film features

my impression is that there were still way more ppl excited to play on stage w/ amanda palmer than there were ppl who were mad abt it. and anyway there are a lot more amateur photographers whose instagrams are good enough to sell products to their friends than good-enough amateur musicians to play onstage at a ticketed gig

If this was Soundcloud saying they were going to give samples of your music to agencies for commercial jingles without compensation, there'd be petitions to whitehouse.gov made on the hour.

Im totally gonna chug this pepsi because I was attracted by mh's picture of his cat w/ a pepsi logo put on top of it

'everything can be sold to everybody' is probably the principle that makes me most depressed these days

RIP Instagram

heaven needed an X-Pro filter

catpepsi

dudes, i've been posting hipstamatic pix to my MySpace account this whole time.

If this was Soundcloud saying they were going to give samples of your music to agencies for commercial jingles without compensation, there'd be petitions to whitehouse.gov made on the hour.

― pplains, Tuesday, December 18, 2012 12:09 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is true but also there's something fundamentally more time-intensive about a piece of music... mustering up outrage over someone jacking an instagram photo of mine would cost me more time than it does to take and upload an instagram photo (and i care about my instagram photos)

I dunno I don't usually get worked up over Facebook-rights stuff but this is p gross

selling off to 3rd parties is another level above rotating user pictures on Facebook ads I think

I've never used instagram but this is a whole other level of evil, and I'm actually pretty surprised that so many people are 'meh' about it.

agreed

I know a dude who accidentally gave permission for a band to use his friend's cell phone picture in their live album art.

Now I make fun of said friend for having his fuzzy picture inside a Metallica album booklet, credited to someone else

so what I'm basically saying is this way, they will always be credited to your instagram name or not, at least

what what's going on?

lesson: make sure you have a cool instagram name

otm

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57559710-38/instagram-says-it-now-has-the-right-to-sell-your-photos/

xpost to ENBB

ENBB: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57559710-38/instagram-says-it-now-has-the-right-to-sell-your-photos/

Obviously everyone here is being all arch about it, b/c hipsters with instagram can never produce anything of any worth. But that really isn't the point. My family snaps aren't "worth" anything, I'd still be appalled if they were sold without my permission to companies I had nothing to do with to use as they like.

xxxpost

only solution now is to pollute instagram with enough garbage that it's impossible to find useful pictures or game the system by taking pictures that would obviously fit into an ad for self promotion

brb have to take a few dozen pictures of me eating a KFC double down sandwich

What's the point of a privacy setting if your pictures can be sold to whoever

brb have to take a few dozen pictures of me eating a KFC double down sandwich

This is called a "Tuesday" in Instagramland.

xpost- no point

also no way to opt out of the policy other than delete your account before Jan. 15

^^ that is what gets me - the chance of my few photos of boring stuff actually being sold/used is zero, but that lack of an opt-out option is stupid. plus i have no problems deleting my acct bc i don't use it as a social site, i just like the dumb filters.

i don't use it as a social site, i just like the dumb filters.

Me too, really. I don't follow a single person on Instagram that I'm not already friends with on fb.

wait until someone needs stock photos of boring stuff, then you'll regret

i "quit" instagram weeks ago-- instagram was going to be played out in 2013 before this news even hit

definitive standpoint

as a stand-alone social network I never really got into it but as an, I dunno, rich-featured version of Twitpic or whatever it was pretty useful

Another article: http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/18/3780158/instagrams-new-terms-of-service-what-they-really-mean

relevant facebook terms:
For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos (IP content), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook (IP License). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it.

sooo, pretty much the same as facebook, with the exception that facebook has theoretically more privacy control

is it though? I don't think this is in the Facebook TOS. could be wrong

"a business or other entity may pay us to display your... photos... in connection with paid or sponsored content or promotions, without any compensation to you."

>>> with the exception that facebook has theoretically more privacy control

maybe that's the difference. Facebook lets you opt out of the creepiest third-party ad shit.

geez i hope my stupid pictures of my dog wind up advertising for-profit colleges someday

http://seattleipguy.tumblr.com/post/38238067044/instagram-wont-be-putting-most-of-your-photos-in-ads

Patent attorney takes a look at the Instagram TOS and makes us feel better.

Uh, facebook shows "these three friends like this movie" with your profile picture on it. Not other pictures you've taken, but with an image of you.

right but you can opt out of that I think

i "quit" instagram weeks ago-- instagram was going to be played out in 2013 before this news even hit

Well okay Jeane Dixon, so tell me where I should put my priceless photos of the sidewalk then.

let's bring back Cellpwn Pics in 2013

Yeah, I'm never going to top that helicopter landing in the hood.

oh hey they're working on rewording it

Re: people not really caring about this, I think it's endemic of at least some subset of millennials who just don't seem at all bothered by really overt online invasions of privacy. Which I feel has something in common with "being famous" as a goal that some of these same people pursue. Some sort of complete dissolution of private walls in the value-free (in the "all publicity is good publicity" sense) pursuit of being seen/noticed (see also: the seemingly carefree proliferation of online nudie snaps). It's all part of some strange gestalt that I totally don't get and that marks the most overt sense I've ever had of a distinct generation gap between me and people younger than myself.

I don't think the issue is necessarily privacy, or even ownership, although these are both concerns. These are images that are already public in some ways, and I don't think the intent is to make them visible to individuals who couldn't already browse and find them.

It's entertaining that flickr is seen as a good alternative, which it mostly is, if you're worried about ownership. But flickr is more highly-searchable and -indexed than most sites, too. If you have public images, it's interesting to see who tags them as favorites or views them. I would get people coming from Google searches or flickr searches for concert pictures I took. Then there were cases where an image would get favorited, you check out their profile, and every image they've added is of a shirtless man. Or they only add images of people smoking cigars.

i once had 200+ views on a picture of my foot

only that many?

must have been on some "look at this grotesque picture of a foot" blog or sthg

whenever i think abt flickr i think about jaxon (r.i.p.) uploading a photo he took of his wife during a hike that some creep added to the "sweaty Asian women" group

eek

yeah, I was weirded out the other day when I realized that if you search for a famous actress or celebrity, the top few google search suggestions always include "x's feet"

1. Become global social megasite
2. Buy rival
3. Shut rival down by making all the users leave.
4. MORE PROFIT!

im on there as datpurp666 fyi

is instagram dead? feel like ppl forgot abt it via vine/snapchat....

I've got a truck driving buddy who takes some awesome road and sunrise instagrams from his cab.

If he moves on to vine and snapchat, I will throw up.

i still instagram, all cats/bread/pizza all the time.

I see it used a lot. Pretty much the default client that people use on twitter other than the native one.

http://www.pacifichelm.com/cameranoir/

Looks nice, but I don't live near the Pacific.

"Slide to download". Dear god, why?

datpurp666 is my name on there btw lets follow each other

wait slide to download, really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP4qdefD2To

idg instagram spam accounts

false hot girl with one photo of herself, 3 of how to get more followers, has 24k followers

haven't actually posted any photos yet, but you never know: http://shoutkey.com/mulch

maybe i will. maybe i won't. can't we all just go back to using facebook?

nope

If memory serves, you don't even post photos there either.

would follow a markers only-taylor-swift-gifs account in addition to an irl account

girl on twitter this morning: "going to a concert and not instagramming about it feels almost like you haven't really been there"

i didnt see the word "not" and felt agreement with her

i dont know why i have so many instagram followers. i guess i was an early adopter and they just increase over time as weirdos add you? i thought it might just be crepes, but i never post pics that would interest crepes

pplains Checking out my favorite band right now!

[Distorted rumble of noise]
[dark figures playing in dark room]
[other iphones held up as those people instagram the moment]

i am guilty of that^^ on snapchat. i am the worst snapchatter ever. flamboyant goon tie possibly the best

I deleted snapchat and my battery life went up 20 percent.

I miss stevie d the most.

i dont know why i have so many instagram followers. i guess i was an early adopter and they just increase over time as weirdos add you? i thought it might just be crepes, but i never post pics that would interest crepes

― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Tuesday, November 5, 2013 3:01 PM (7 hours ago)

change yr profile pic to one of james gandolfini, track results

jho and elmo are quality ilxagrammers also this dog named benson

max + dayo infrequent but potent

i dont think i follow dayo for some reason

agreed that max's are qual

gr8080 is ilx's instagram laureate imo

oh yeah durrr

I'm nihilistmovement fyi and btw

ah! i thought you were a hawaii person

lol see I'm so good I make providence look like oahu

Just got a new (2 month old) kitten, so i feel it is my civic duty to post images of him cutely snoozing on instagram.

i mostly post pictures of old junk i found while going through my old junk, pictures of my dogs, food i made, lol signs. if anyone finds that amusing, it's ok with me. if not, that's ok too.

the only sn I like

nihilistmovement is a qual instsgrammer too

im darpurp666, im not sure if i've posted that yet. probs 100 times.

i mean datpurp666

I enjoy your instagram *thumbs up*

i feel like people like this more than twitter, but i think i'm the exact opposite

International Space Station and NASA both have instagrams.

In my world, lots of people use Twitter, and I'm only dimly aware that Instagram still exists except as "that thing Facebook bought before WhatsApp"

so I am newcomer to the Instagram thang and I have a boring tech question oh no

the app on my iPhone keeps wanting me to connect my camera roll to my instagram account

I haven't done this yet because I'm afraid that it's just going to put everything in my camera roll immediately up onto instagram and I don't want to share every pic I've ever taken because some of them are just way ugly or boring or, ahem, private etc.

is there a way to connect the camera roll to instagram but to still allow me as the user to determine which pics flow there and which don't? I hope there is, but for now I'm using a cumbersome app called Gramblr to upload pics from a computer to Instagram so that I can be more selective/more of an editor

IG will only post what you want, it just needs to ask permission to access that part of your phone first

yeah it's just so you don't have to use the camera in IG, you can just take pics like normal and then use IG to upload and edit them if/when you want

thank u

Instagram can kill a crush dead in its tracks

hahaha that reminds me of ethan's old thread about myspace

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=317

For me it's just the details of her romantic dinners and vacation with her boyfriends that's just...

I'd rather not know but it's my own fault for searching them out in the first place.

you really revel in the creepy dontcha

has this been posted here yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn6cy_1-gzg

if lj is accusing you of reveling in the creepy......

loool zing

so instagram has officially been overrun with chatbot spam porn girls or so it seems

Private profile is essential

I'm on this thing now, follow @cocktailsandfood for pictures of cats

I just got my first follower, a dude in a band I like

totally addicted to this shit

im @datpurp666 and my place is @thepoisonlawn and my band is @argentinumastrum

Follow request sent. I'm @sm_cal.

Tried registering on this, failed all the time. Whatev.

I'm @jennyoctopad. It's a private account but I'll approve anybody who isn't spam or a terrible person. Note: I'm a bad person to follow if you hate adorable babies.

sent u a request.

otoh it is an excellent account to follow if you love adorable babies imo

REEEquested

whoamg stevie is another one to follow if you love adorable babies. !!!

my personal one is band stuff, knitting stuff and cats

haha tq tq tq carl

my instagram does not have a theme

mine is lol selfies and bullshit
@sharonjoy76

+1 on carl's babby pics btw, supercute

No babies on mine (though I do have them at home). Just random photos and enthusiasms

Classic or dude: drunk instagramming crushes 'so into u'

So crushin'

Hey y’all! I have been taking pictures and posting them to this thing. Here’s a link to my profile: http://shoutkey.com/drawbridge

If a thing happens and isn't shared, did it really happen?

love this:

http://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/2015/09/03/062/n/1922398/f0797db83ff59d41_Screen_Shot_2015-09-03_at_5.28.58_PMHQDGsB.xxxlarge/i/Waking-up-10-m-get-perfect-light.jpg

http://www.popsugar.com/tech/Hipster-Barbie-Instagram-Account-38303127#photo-38303127

love it

Can we start the igram backlash yet?

on public transportation in nyc, people are inevitably looking at either igram or fbook

I've said it elsewhere, but the new Instagram location feature is the best.

Here's the Reno Walmart, one of the nearest box stores to #burningman.

http://i.imgur.com/P51hsho.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UYGE3JM.png

http://i.imgur.com/lXFrqVP.jpg

What's new about the location feature?

You couldn't search it before.

You could click a location if you saw it on a pic, but you couldn't query it.

way too many ads now :/

I haven't seen a single one yet

what? how

I see sponsored post ads, but some of the folks I follow on Instagram are basically posting ads anyway (but they are ones I want to see)-- just for DC go-go gigs, New Orleans brass ones, afrobeat/afropop dj nights, etc.

I get a ton of ads now. never used to until a couple months back maybe.

kind of getting done with instagram i think.

and there's only so many times I can share photos of my cat, weird graffiti, sunset over the ocean, or some mountains.

I've never seen an ad on the 'stagram

hmm. wonder what the reason behind some of us getting ads and others not. im on android.

these are all in my feed within the last 12 hours
http://i63.tinypic.com/e9ck1w.jpg

maybe a function of how many followers or posts or followers you have. I have under 10 of all of those. iPhone.

*people you follow

Sidestepping from the advert discussion, a thriller series is playing uniquely on Instagram this month via 15-second video posts each day, plus accompanying photos... http://www.shield5.com

i have iPhone and a few hundred posts/followers/following.

Plenty of adverts here, but they're not too obnoxious yet.

Instagram advertising is a straightforward option when making Facebook adverts and sponsored/boosted posts nowadays. Tried it once so far as an experiment, but Instagram still works well organically, so we haven't found the need yet.

How I (Almost) Made Big Money Working From Home Promoting Products on Instagram

this is probably the first major trend that I managed to miss entirely before everyone was not only on it but already in backlash
i kinda hate primary visually oriented communication.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGKzgF5AROq/

it's over, right? all the people i follow are posting way less

https://www.theinformation.com/sharing-decline-blurs-instagrams-picture

def a lot less posting of late.

Today's snap is tomorrow's Instagram post.

I think the bigger scale of Snapchat's images doesn't get noted enough. A snap photo has to be cropped to fit on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and so on, keeping a Snap photo from being interchangeable on other platforms.

the number of photos shared on average by each Instagram user fell

Weird wording there. When I think of "share", I think of what you do on Facebook with someone else's content or retweeting something on Twitter.

People "post" their photos on Instagram, and I get the idea what the writer is saying. There's a share button, but I rarely, rarely ever see it used by anyone.

Under 21 folks I know seem to mostly just use snapchat.

Music geeks keep posting pics and video clips of gigs on Instagram as well as via other social media outlets

Anyone know if you can upload to instagram from your laptop? I've found a few software packages on google but thought I'd check if any of you have used them first.

The new non-chronologic algorithm combined with an explosion of ads in my feed (every 2-3 pix?) pretty much turned me off of IG.

I usually scroll down until I hit one that I've already seen.

So now with the new algorithm, I hardly spend any time at all on Instagram!

That article also links to an article saying that facebook users have been sharing less of their personal lives, which is an interesting development that accords with my observations -- people have gotten a lot more selective inasmuch as there's no longer any novelty to just saying whatever the fuck you're doing/eating/thinking right now.

Had a recent FB request from *takes a deep breath* the father of the mother of my daughter's best friend, the kid's maternal grandfather.

Have never met him, btw.

instagram is gd imo. like it is something you read when you are in a queue to access memes + screenshotted details of interesting internet information + then just cool world glimpses. abbott wrote something in another thread abt the virtue of smartphones being how you can foto the weird shit that stumbles into yr view while you are out of the house, + instagram is the repository for this at the moment i think.

i get kinda hazy abt [platform] is dying !!! hysteria bc it is like ... like websites are dying ... which they are .. but also they are not ... meaningfully dying ... i can read a website ... lots of websites ... instagram is fine ... it's fine. you know

also oh my god have you seen this cat ?
i lose my mind, it's like lolita for me, i did not know i cd feel this way abt a cat !!!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BExQ1Xbwb4U/

where are you guys getting this content if not #instagram

#kitty #kitten #neko #pet #katze #instasize #catsragram #ig_catphoto #animal #scottishfold #gato

Prisma is cheesy as hell but also sort of fascinating that one-touch artification took this long to arrive.

i finally get instagram. it's so much less pressure than twitter and even facebook. there's very little talking! no need to craft a joke! you just look! and like! that's it! but i now am connecting with friends that i never connected with before on FB or tworter. yes tworter.

I sure know a lot of people who like cats