Quentin Tarantino's Western movie "Django Unchained"

As yet untitled and unfilmed. Tidbit here from an Oscar party:

I ran into Quentin Tarantino, who said that he has completed the script for his Western, and that compared to recent scripts like Inglourious Basterds and Kill Bill that took so long to crystallize, this one came together much quicker and just flowed out of him. He wasn't more descriptive than that before I lost him in the crowd, but my understanding is he'll deliver within two months and then TWC will begin moving toward a production start.

Hopefully this'll nip that Kill Bill III thing in the bud.

Here's hoping.

this one came together much quicker and just flowed out of him

i'll bet

Wonder how many scenes from Red Sun he'll "pay tribute" to.

sure to be a bloated mess

*excited*

will he actually hire morricone to do the soundtrack? or will he just borrow from old soundtracks.

he'll get Earth to do it

will he actually hire morricone to do the soundtrack? or will he just borrow from old soundtracks.

― tylerw, Tuesday, March 1, 2011 9:06 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

feel this merits a 'comes to the same thing' zing but im not if i can back that up

ha, yeah, morricone would probably be suuuuper psyched if tarantino was just like "hey man you know once upon a time in the west -- do that!"
earth would be cool.

could be awesome
http://deeperintomovies.net/journal/image08/sukiyaki07.jpg

HEY MORBS

So there was a title confirmed and there's studio stories and etc.

And the star that Tarantino wants for the film is....

http://images.allmoviephoto.com/1999_Wild_Wild_West/will_smith_wild_wild_west_004.jpg

Comments on that Deadline story are all like "the screenplay is all over the internet."

That there Internet.

franco nero's gonna be in it... but hes not playing django!! its not even a django movie!

wow.

I will not watch a Will Smith movie.

I really can't see Smith doing this but i think it could work if he did.

i love will smith movies, and will smith doing qt could be amazing imo

(paging dr morbius for a bowel movement)

tarantino's big talent is in casting and actor-directing; i'm sure will smith would be as excellent as everyone usually is in these stupid movies.

disagree that those are QT's talents

Even in the old spaghetti days most Django movies weren't even Django movies.

will smith is an inspired choice. dude has a ton of charisma, he's just in shitty movies.

if will smith is in this i'm gonna camp out for a whole week star wars style

long as he's better than brad pitt in that last one

YOU AND ME YO xp

LETS DO IT

doubt very much that will smith will agree to be in a tarantino movie

tarantino is more comfortable with the n-word than smith for one thing

i agree with max BUT STILL

will smith is an inspired choice. dude has a ton of charisma, he's just in shitty movies.

― iatee, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 03:51 (10 minutes ago)

He has had charisma in comedies, but what was the last drama/action movie where he wasn't stone-faced and sullen?

i see you hoos

haha yeah that's a good point, will smith prob wouldn't be willing to ruin his family-friendly image

he does seem to like money though, and has he been in any $$$$$$ pictures lately?

since when are tarantino movies not comedies

matt, all quentin tarantino movies are comedies, so it wouldn't matter!

xp voila

and has he been in any $$$$$$ pictures lately?

― iatee, Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:04 AM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark

dawg he's will smith -- he could probably spend inglorious' worldwide gross upgrading his pool

yeah but still, dude's been out of the game

wikipedia says men in black 3, bad boys 3 and some pharaoh movie are on his plate tho

he's busy being a dad, just enjoying taking his kids to school in the morning

doubt very much that will smith will agree to be in a tarantino movie

― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:01 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

tarantino is more comfortable with the n-word than smith for one thing

― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:01 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

great point. there's also the fact that will smith has his people rewrite any movie he's in; nobody rewrites tarantino. plus the role is for a SLAVE which i doubt he'll be comfy with.

he does seem to like money though, and has he been in any $$$$$$ pictures lately?

― iatee, Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:04 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

you'd be amazed by how much money even shit like Seven Pounds makes

there's also the fact that will smith has his people rewrite any movie he's in; nobody rewrites tarantino.

think tarantino surrenders final cut & considers comments from his producers?, iirc. according to jon rosenbaum i think.

he does seem to like money though, and has he been in any $$$$$$ pictures lately?

What are we considering "lately?" I Am Legend was 2007 and made over $250 million + in the US alone. Hancock made over half a billion worldwide, and Seven Pounds made over $160 million on a budget a third of that. Since then he's been exec-producing his kids' careers and getting good return on his investment.

tarantino really surrenders final cut? that's surprising. i can believe that he'd take comments, but not that he'd let will smith steamroll him.

I'd be willing to bet that Tarantino has had more plastic surgery than Will Smith. Which is weird since looking good isn't even Tarantino's job.

this was from a long & convoluted description of 'what constitutes indepedent filmmaking', with the eventual criterion being owning your own prints. it's a while since i read this (in rosenbaum's (great) dead man book?, perhaps?), so don't take it as gospel, but it seemed sorta persuasive at the time.

during a Q&A for Grindhouse, someone asked Tarantino about Biskind's Down & Dirty Pictures bk and he made a point, unprompted, of v v strongly refuting the claim that he ever let the Weinstein bros have ANY input into his scripts.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/5706383149_ab135f55d9_o%20%281%29.jpg

Hi Sarah

Thank you for your very lovley letter. It's the best letter I've gotten all year long. I'm glad you loved "Dusk", it was one of my favrote times making a movie. And I feel my best performance so far. It's cool to hear a girl into horror flicks.

Rock on Sarah!!

Do you know about Itallion horror film maker Mario Bava? He did Blood and Black Lace, Black Sunday and Black Sabbith. He's one of my favrotes. I read your letter to Mira, she loved it too. Write me anytime. I can't wait for you to get your hands on a camera too.

With all my love

(Signed)

P.S. Sarah, since you liked Dusk so much, coming out soon is a movie we did about the making of "Dusk" called "Full Tilt Boogie". It shows how much fun we had. I hope you like it.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2623/5706949992_7b115298f8_o.jpg

<3

idgi

a girl named sarah wrote him a fan letter abt 'dusk til dawn'

that is his response

right

problem solved.

also included

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3005/5706949910_8aaeaaf8ce_o.jpg

maybe I should have clarified that idgi - do you think these are funny or something?

no, i just think they're sweet.

quentin otm abt mario bava

do you think these are FUNNY or something, BIG HOOS??

Movie Prediction: Characters have a long conversation about something esoteric. Then someone dies creatively. Then a comic book style spaghetti western montage. Rinse and repeat

*dies creatively*

definitely going to a barefooted woman riding a horse at some point.

someone gonna be a taboo kind of evil at some point

maybe necrophilia

he'll really never run out of shit movies to quasi-remake or room to disappear further up his own asshole

because his asshole

it so so big

^dialogue from Chinese washerwoman character in Django Unchained

as a handwriting nerd I find QT's handwriting just a tad disturbing ...

but also might just be "dude who has been writing on computer/typewriters for most of adult life" lol

i sort of assumed it was "dude writing an excitable letter in the style of a 13 year old girl"

nah his handwriting always looks like that (and his writing always reads like that)

Found the script online and am reading away. Crazy - but so was the IG script I thought and the final film stuck fairly close to it. All I gotta say at this juncture is - would be shocked n' amazed if Will Smith actually signs on to do this as written. The "yessuh"'s, etc are the least of it.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20110511/capt.d9755d5e3604418cb7f5bbdec4e45edd-30b55fb2de2f4d6baaeae06efb26a3cf-0.jpg?x=400&y=266&q=85&sig=wqRRm8y32ytnAiSZ8qWhrA--

^^ Will's trailer in NYC

oh

people kept saying 'will smith's trailer' and i thought they meant a preview for a film

i was so confused

crosspost

http://www.movieline.com/2011/05/he-was-my-favorite-actor-quentin-tarantino-all-star-line-up-honor-sidney-poitier.php

Well then:

What is surprising is that DiCaprio is in talks for a supporting role in Tarantino's slavery revenge tale, "Django Unchained," a really, really despicable role. The part, according to press reports, is for Calvin Candie, the plantation owner and slave proprietor who gets his jollies out of watching slaves fight to the death and has no problem beating his own when they don't follow orders.

calvin candie is such a great name

and has no problem beating his own

always wanted to watch DiCaprio beating his own tbh

toboggahn?

tubbath?

tabouleh?

you ah doooly appointed fightin slaves

loll

his "boston" wasn't so far from georgia actually, was it

@yogoldsmith
Jeff Goldsmith
Will Smith is out! Inside sources tell me that Tarantino has chosen Oscar winner @iamjamiefoxx to play Django! #fb

well then

def more tolerable

does jamie foxx know he's been chosen?

def more tolerable

― winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, June 23, 2011 8:18 PM (7 minutes ago)

sb'd u 4 this

yeah well fuck Will Smith

i have sb'd u a secund timeuh

evidently shakey has to cuss to sell records

if you don't have AIDS throw your hands in the air

seriously fuck that guy

(uh maybe there should be quotes around that previous post)

*throws hands in the air*

*welcomes everyone to miami*

bienvenido a miami

I guess the exact quote is "all the homeboys that got AIDS, be quiet"

at least he didn't curse though

I do like a lot of that first album tho

tho

are you referring to something everybody else is aware of with this AIDS bit and i'm the ignorant guy or what

it's on his first record

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9VMgBBeW5c&feature=fvwrel
2:35

well i guess if he said something retarded and ignorant when he was 18 then yeah, i totally see why you'd hate him

i dont really wanna spoil myself but i gave the script for this a quick skim - this might set a record for most n-bombs in a movie. cant wait!

well i guess if he said something retarded and ignorant when he was 18 then yeah, i totally see why you'd hate him

lol yes this is the only bad thing he's ever done *rmde*

well i guess if he said something retarded and ignorant when he was 18 then yeah, i totally see why you'd hate him

― lol j/k simmons (history mayne), Thursday, June 23, 2011 5:37 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

hey hm, using the r-word is pretty ignorant too. there's no place for ableist language on this board.

a brief history of crimes

2008 Seven Pounds
2008 Hancock
2007 I Am Legend
2006 The Pursuit of Happyness (a bunch of this was shot on my street and it was ultra irritating)
2005/I Hitch
2004 I, Robot
2003 Bad Boys II
2002 Men in Black II
2001 Ali
2000 The Legend of Bagger Vance
1999 Wild Wild West
1998 Enemy of the State
1997 Men in Black
1996 Independence Day
1995 Bad Boys
1993 Six Degrees of Separation
1993 Made in America
1992 Where the Day Takes You

seriously his entire CV is total garbage, it's been all downhill since Fresh Prince of Bel Air ended

i would respond but im really enjoying watching a double-bill of 'law abiding citizen' and 'valentine's day' up in this

smith is a scientologist. i don't know what that means to me but i'm scared.

there is no limit to his evil

was WS good in Six Degrees?

http://i.imgur.com/PGpwT.gif

was WS good in Six Degrees?

I vaguely remember him being ok. Although he seemed quite "actorly"

Do you want to fuck my partner, or do you want to do business?

can never not like "any damsel that's in distress / will be outta that dress when she meets jim west", even if this is a rocky and bullwinkle joke

"even if" = "because"

jamie foxx and will smith are both terrible choices

so many other actors he could have gone with
:|

I'm really excited about this. I am hoping it leads to my local cinema showing a retrospective of all the other Django films, as I have always fancied seeing "Nude Django".

is that a real django movie

Reinhardt porn iirc, whole other thing.

jamie foxx and will smith are equally reprehensible.

'reprehensible' is a strong word!

how about 'unpalatable'?

Kevin Costner latest cast member on Celebrity Career Rehab.

Also, what the:

Foxx will play the title character, a slave-turned-bounty hunter who must take on those villains to free his slave wife. It's looking like Tarantino might make a discovery on that role, a character named Broomhilda.

DiCaprioooooooo noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

wait, leo is in for good? holy shit

damn gotta add this new role to my leo with an accent poll

why do directors like him why why why

I noted in some other thread that I recently saw the Hubble 3-D IMAX movie, which is narrated by Leo. Now, I get why directors like him, but as a narrator? A distinctive, mellifluous voice? He brings nothing to the table. You can hear him squint.

the plot sounds totally weird imo

he sounds like a weasel

sounds like this is going to feature a fair amount of Q's favorite racial slur

this might set a record for most n-bombs in a movie.

I guess a lot of people are saying he uses a lot of "n-bombs" in the stage directions, occasionally out of nowhere.

sounds like this is going to feature a fair amount of Q's favorite racial slur

― i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, July 18, 2011 5:46 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah, this. like, i basically <3 the dude but it almost seems like he's trolling now

i saw an interview w/ QT once in which he was sitting on a couch in what i presume was his house underneath a giant stylized portrait of what appeared to be QT as a black man

say what

could have been wrong though

could have just been a giant stylized portrait of QT, which i mean still

This script is CRAZY crazy crazy. Gonna make IG look like "Full House".

I think i know the portrait you're talking about. Don't think he's meant to be black in it though. I saw it in this extremely weird show where QT and Fiona Apple just hung around with each other in Austin. It was an incredibly awkward viewing experience.

The painting or watching the two them together?

Still don't get why it's being called a "Spaghetti Western". It's something else completely.

the two of them. Apple just kept trailing off into these strained silences while Tarantino cackled on regardless.

Isn't Tarantino calling it a "Southern"?

I guess a lot of people are saying he uses a lot of "n-bombs" in the stage directions, occasionally out of nowhere.

yep, starting on like the second page. he capitalizes it too

Still don't get why it's being called a "Spaghetti Western".

because it's called Django?

Just a name. Has nothing to do with the SW character. Could be about Django Reinhardt (sp?).

It's clearly not just a name though

also definitely not about django reinhardt

Django Unfingered

kinda wishing it was about Django Reinhardt now

this does seem like trolling though... he's obviously aware that one of the elephants in the room re: his career (apart from his foot fetish) is his odd relationship to black culture, and after pretty much ignoring it completely for awhile now he's just going to make a big deal about it and BLOW PEOPLE'S MINDS. or something.

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2105/screenshot20110719at104.png

It's like telling Philip Roth to ease up on the sex.

Yup, that's the one PP

yeah that definitely makes me really really uncomfortable, but i wouldn't say it puts him in blackface

You can't tell in that photo, but he's wearing a really gross sleeveless top there which was another disquieting element of the show

i don't care if tarantino is black, white, purple

the one thing about reading a tarantino script (that hasn't been cleaned up for publication) is that it'd be very very obvious dude didn't finish high school even if you didn't know that already. not asking for a masterful prose style in what amounts to a list of shooting directions but there are like four or five grammar boners on every page.

also everyone who said something about the gratuitous n-bomb drops in the shooting directions otm. jesus, quentin.

where are you guys reading this script I don't get it

if you google django unchained screenplay pdf the mysteries of the universe will be revealed 2 u

I was going to say, I thought it was pretty common knowledge at this point that his scripts all float around the web well in advance of the movies.

yah i read inglorious bastards back inna day and expected to hate it tbh

You can hear him squint.

haha excellent

I was going to say, I thought it was pretty common knowledge at this point that his scripts all float around the web well in advance of the movies.

back in the day I had to pay $20 for photocopies on the wrong-sized paper of Pulp Fiction and Natural Born Killers before they came out

yeah i gotta say that his dialogue reads waaaaaaay better if you imagine it coming out of specific actors mouths. (if you act it out in your mind, basically.) reading screenplays flat/as prose makes even 90 percent of the interesting ones seem flimsy, not all there, etc.

Read about the first third of it this afternoon. I'll go see it...but I wouldn't be surprised if I have to leave Mississippi to do it.

the problem is that i keep reading the "dr. schultz" dialogue in the voice of hans landa, which makes everything hilarious even if it's not intended to be.

I was going to say, I thought it was pretty common knowledge at this point that his scripts all float around the web well in advance of the movies.

yeah his, and basically ever other screenplay too

Okay, probably, just seems like Tarantino's get a lot more widely discussed than others, outside of specific circles.

oh, yeah, that's the picture. if it weren't quentin tarantino the portrait being black as opposed to just being artily purplish probably wouldn't even have occurred to me, but as it is quentin tarantino it's pretty lol.

the one thing about reading a tarantino script (that hasn't been cleaned up for publication) is that it'd be very very obvious dude didn't finish high school even if you didn't know that already. not asking for a masterful prose style in what amounts to a list of shooting directions but there are like four or five grammar boners on every page.

― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:03 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

haha otm, this really struck me when i was flipping through IB a while back, though the fact that he seems almost semi-illiterate is sorta part of the charm, like the phrase 'inglourious basterds' is something you would see doodled on a folder next to a flaming skull and the old stussy 's' logo

http://onceuponawin.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/stussy-s.jpg

Greenville's in Washington County, but I digress.

QT's act gets a little tired sometimes, but he can still turn up some suspense.

The screenplay's a good read.

He's remaking the same movie over and over in different settings, though. Shosanna vs. Nazis in general and Landa in particular; Django vs. slaveholders in general and Calvin Candie in particular.

It does read an awful lot like Bastards--makes me wonder what the third in a rescue trilogy would be.

(er, make that Basterds)

I was thinking of Django as part 3 of a revenge trilogy with Kill Bill and IB. I'd rather he made an entirely new film than play around in formal exercises.

So what's next, his science fiction epic?

^^ otm, i was hoping this was the last of his revenge fantasies too. i mean, once you've done the Holocaust revenge fantasy and the slavery revenge fantast, how exactly do you go bigger?

(xpost)

but i am still looking forward to this. i realize its no longer trendy to say so, but i really love pretty much every movie he's done on some level.

Baldo vs Minuvaxxians in general and BleepBorp in particular.

lol, would watch

Can't wait to see who plays BleepBorp

john connor vs. machines in general and skynet in particular

Can't wait to see who plays BleepBorp

Early money is on Leif Garrett.

i really love pretty much every movie he's done on some level.

i can honestly say that i like pretty much every movie he's done, but the drop-off after kill bill 1 has been pretty severe.

i don't know if i would go with "severe", but noticeable, sure. but i think Death Proof is underrated and i thought Basterds was a bounce back up in quality.

agree w all that. death proof has some pretty major flaws, but is better than its rep suggests. basterds is almost there, but the pieces don't quite fit together and pitt's performance is horrible. still pretty enthused abt django unchained.

not excited about presence of Sweaty Bigface

pretty excited about everything else tho

Foxx'll likely do fine, but the screenplay really does read perfectly for Will Smith.

yeah, still kinda disappointed that he wouldn't do this. lol @ Tom Wopat being in this tho.

absolutely hate Will Smith, glad he's not in this

also lol @ Tarantino starring in a Takashi Miike movie in 2007 called Sukiyaki Western Django

i really can't stand most of Smith's work either, but for some reason this felt perfect for him.

I think he's only gotten better since KB1 frankly.

for those who've read the script: any signature tarantino dialogue?

"dick dick dick..." *bang* *cue morricone theme*
"how many dicks was that?"
"three."
"THANK YOU"

3 1/2 pages of dialogue by masked raiders complaining that they can't see through the eyeholes that Willard's wife cut into the bags they're wearing.

...too spoilery?

for some reason i don't really ever consider death proof as "A Quentin Tarantino Film"

I loved Death Proof in the theater, slightly less in the DVD director's cut (though the scene w/ Mary Elizabeth Winstead singing is <3), it's probably my #2 Tarantino behind KB1.

Director's Cut is totally worse. was much funnier when the lapdance scene was cut out.

i love that googling any random female celebrity these days, auto-fill brings up "___________ feet" as one of the top results. (noticed yet again when googling MEW to remember which character she was)

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7200000/Mary-Elizabeth-Winstead-Death-Proof-Widescreen-Wallpaper-mary-elizabeth-winstead-7221026-1280-800.jpg

lol at movie billboard

ws all the Death Proof girls

gots a thing for girls in yella, don't he?

Meantime, we have official teaser poster:

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17jdgn92x56t5jpg/original.jpg

As Gawker notes, no title.

would watch VG smash all the Death Proof girls

i like that a lot

(xpost the poster, not the ws)

cool poster. the blocky, woodcut-style chain reminds me very strongly of ... something, but i can't remember what. it's on the tip of my mind.

thanks for making it creepy Phil :)

very Saul Bass-style there

With Instagram corners.

It doesn't have to be creepy. I'd be very quiet.

Mostly.

...

. . . mostly

http://www.bitbroken.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/newt_mostly_aliens-490x258.png

facepalm

creep factor 5, engage

bleah

anyway, yeah it is very saul bass-like. but i think there's a famous book cover or film poster illustration of a chain that looks almost exactly like that. wish my brain wasn't hash.

Just kidding, I'll leave you and Rosario Dawson to your business.

its evoking something for me too 'tender and i cant place it either

^^ otm

Driving me crazy. I don't think this is what I'm picturing, but this also popped to mind (Saul Bass as Shakey Mo pointed out)

http://annyas.com/htdocs/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/saul-bass-1958-vertigo-one-sheet-movie-poster.jpg

this is kinda close too

http://www.watchthetitles.com/img/SaulBass-TheHumanFactor.jpg

anyway, i like it

yeah, after digging through tons of images on google, i think it may just be the general bass-ness that's triggering something for me

not doing Nov/Dec critical 'completism' in 2012 just so I can skip this and Luhrmann's Great Gatsby

I mean, I still haven't seen MerylThatcher, but some idiots critics under age 35 will actually be putting this shit on their little lists.

could it be?

http://www.empireonline.com/images/image_index/original/56170.jpg

Yep, there won't be any critics anywhere over 35 that put this on any sort of list either. Your QT hating schtick is predictable and tiresome.

in morbs' defense, he's tiresome about hating all sorts of stuff

i know. and i hate that i let his schtick bug me, but i also don't understand people with a perpetual need to comment in threads for stuff they know they already hate (cf. Whiney in Community threads).

I for one was surprised it took him a full 24 hours.

xp some people are losersbored, I guess.

but i also don't understand people with a perpetual need to comment in threads for stuff they know they already hate

dude, YOU DO THIS

ZING

dude, YOU DO THIS

seriously i don't.

i'm pretty honest about my shortcomings as a poster and i know i react badly to people trying to troll me or w/e, but i honestly try hard not to post in threads for stuff i hate just to be negative

wd've utterly ignored the Poster Event, but recent ILX developments have reduced my estimation of its Cinema Smarts by approx 99%

so BLAM

you really need to get over the Comedy poll, Morbs.

plus ca change

don't forget ACTION FILMS, VG

i'm surprised your estimation of ilx cinema smarts had any lower to drop, tbh

oh god, the tastes of people on a message board fail to align with some tedious, self-important canon. shock horror.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqjie7dpwoI

lol, "tedious, self-important" in Tarantella thread

wow, this time he's using the hanging laundry from Once Upon a Time in the West family slaughter, huh

loooool is that Ray at the beginning?

also lol at Morbs calling out a fake trailer

wheres yer movie smarts now oldster?

i didnt watch it

anyway, enjoy your self-referential cineshit, I'll be watching movies that aren't about bad movies

So the nouvelle vague is right out then.

oh god morbs just shut up already

what's most embarrassing about dr. morbius is that this smugness and condescension he evinces sits very uncomfortably beside the corny and predictable tastes and critical heuristics he uses. it's probably ILX's most critical case of anosognosia. and yes, morbs, i am purposely talking over you, since it is of absolutely no use to talk with you.

i mean every film department is populated with a gaggle of master's students who are about as self-impressed and lacking in insight and wit as dr. morbius, but he pontificates and condescends like he's william f. buckley or something.

lol "anos"

eesh, it's getting a little hot in here

yeah but william f buckley was funny

(sorry morbs, I had to)

"critical heuristics, mmmmm yessss"

http://www.theycc.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/071703.jpg

...and the fact that he completely ignored the actual results of the comedy poll (which contained plenty of classic stuff) in favour of continually harping about the supposed philistinism of the voters. It's practically psychotic

buckley was kind of handsome sometimes.

I am very disappointed that that was not a picture of Yoda, Morbs.

ass-kissing you guys for putting Buster Keaton 60+ places behind Ivan Reitman, NoNone

Buckley was super-handsome.

i'm going out for some cigarettes, take care of this thread y'all.

xpost yes but Buster Keaton is #1 in your tiny black heart Morbs, and isn't all that really matters

actually "pontificates" is the wrong word, it would imply some kind of sustained riff rather than a series of identical interjections.

joe wilson is a more likely comparison.

^critical amateuristics

can we ban this bore already? i think it would be healthy for him, i suspect he needs a bit of sunshine.

which reminds me: cigarettes.

getting mad about morbs would be like getting mad at statler and/or waldorf

"mmm, yes, Buster Keaton. Very funny, he was. 900 years ago, his movies I saw."

http://www.bigshinyrobot.com/reviews/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/yoda1.jpg

da croupier otm

getting mad about morbs would be like getting mad at statler and/or waldorf

tbf Morbz routine would be much more appealing with a foil/sidekick

Statler and Waldorf are funny

well they had better writers

they're an affectionate parody of something that's unremittingly awful in real life. so thank god morbius is a jolly felt puppet, cuz otherwise...

I'll admit there was a time ILX was "real life" for me

Nothing is real, etc.

xpost yes but Buster Keaton is #1 in your tiny black heart Morbs, and isn't all that really matters

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:29 PM (7 minutes ago)

tbh this is all that matters to me; Morbs #1

You'll have to get through a lot of #2 to get there.

morbs doesn't anger me; i would characterize it as irritation.

i mean, i don't care if he likes or doesn't like tarantino, or whoever. i can't stand p.t. anderson's films, and i've had interesting conversations with people who love them. at a certain point, we just agree to disagree (maybe one of us has caused the other to rethink things in a way that might pay off months or years later). so this isn't about taste (although, it is irksome that morbius thinks that by announcing his distaste for something he seems to feel like he's upsetting the ILX hivemind or something, when in fact lots and lots of people--even on this site!--share this or that opinion with him). it's a question of how you argue, how you interact with other people--whether you show any respect for them by acknowledging a difference of opinion and then exchange the feelings and/or reasoning behind those opinions. or just needle them over and over and over and etc. about how they are wrong/stupid/predictable and you are not.

or at least if you are just gonna say "yeah, i don't really like back to the future," you can do it in a straightforward --not nasty, not judgmental--way that doesn't imply a total lack of respect for those of a different opinion.

in other words, suggest ban.

I have made my peace with QT. ultimately, we just get off on different things. but i do admire the seeming sincerity he has for his material (there always seems to be an emotional core to his movies, and you get the feeling that this stuff, this way of interpreting the world, really resonates for him). I am anticipating this!

yes, anticipating this!

i sort of doubt it will blow open the windows of my mind but i can't imagine it will be less than entertaining.

xxpost if that's the grounds for banning morbs, it's grounds for banning a whole bunch of other posters who are also generally cool people.

...is my feeling, anyway.

he's totally disrespectful on ILX, which is why I don't mind mocking him here even though I enjoy the guy's presence when we're both at glamorous NY gatherings. But I don't get the point of being po-faced about it; it's pretty clear he doesn't give a fuck so Flag Post, zing or ignore.

I think the grounds for banning morbs are that he triggers constant derails that are focused on morbs.

Don't feed the troll.

I'll take zings for $100 alex

derailing a quentin tarantino thread with gratuitous chatter feels appropriate

I'd like some nachos please.

what do they call The Hunger Games in France?

Battle Royale with Cheese

...i think i've also managed to not really condescend to QT anymore...like, he does, in my opinion, take the themes and emotions of his films seriously. and maybe my predilection for the po-faced philosophical engagement of a Kubrick or a Malick is simply that and doesn't mean that QT can't find life lessons in kung fu films. i mean, shit, that's practically what kung fu films are always hitting you over the head with!

what do they call The Hunger Games in France?

Battle Royale with Cheese

― Number None, Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

quality LOLs

^this & this:

derailing a quentin tarantino thread with gratuitous chatter feels appropriate

― da croupier, Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:18 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/django-unchained-official-leo-550x350.png
http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/django-unchained-official-waltz-foxx-550x386.png

so is sweaty bigface the villain here...?

has to be

totally hate him, look forward to him being killed

that's some p sweet costuming!

everybody looks so clean

Is that green suede?

everybody looks so clean

my secret shame is that i really do prefer clean people

When was the last time Leo wasn't all serious Oscar actor? Catch Me If You Can?

Anyway, I hope he has a hilariously bad southern accent.

catch me was a pretty serious performance! also i doubt he was expecting a statue for Body Of Lies

he looks so much like kenneth branagh in Wild Wild West there, suddenly tarantino writing the lead role for will smith makes so much sense now

OK, when was the last time Leo was silly on purpose, then?

j edgar

he didn't smile once in the J. Edgar Hoover, not even when he put on a dress.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4ebKDFxiia8/TAxxPaNYq6I/AAAAAAAAHLE/OxPR3AhI8Oo/s1600/377587.1020.A.jpg

http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/special/photo/leo/8.jpg

i have been anticipating dicaprio's choice of accent in this since it was announced.

i'm guessing foghorn leghorn crossed with paul lynde, but i might be hoping for too much here.

thank you for helplessly posting giant mandingo

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/06/02/1226067/776149-powers-boothe.jpg

is that... Craig T. Nelson?

I just emailed you the Complete Deadwood.

Powers Boothe?

jess have you voted in my leo accents poll

its open till 2015

link?

theres no django as he hadnt been cast but you can do a write-in

leonardo dicaprio accents: the poll

duly appointed federal marshalls ftw

sometimes i like to mumble 'the way of the future, the way of the future' to myself in his howard hughes voice

Cannes report from Deadline.com:

And for Christmas Day Weinstein is promising Tarantino’s provocative western starring Jamie Foxx as an ex-slave out for revenge and Oscar winner Christoph Waltz as a diabolical travelling dentist who has a giant tooth atop his covered wagon. Leonardo DiCaprio, Don Johnson, Kerry Washington and Samuel L. Jackson co-star.

...a generous never-before-seen 10 minutes was unveiled from Django and judging from the unconventional footage and politically incorrect dialogue it should prove to be a wild and typically-Quentin ride for the Weinsteins, as is usually the case with Tarantino. (Weinstein) said Django still is in production for another month and may be adding a couple of “surprise” co-stars. At one time Sacha Baron Cohen was slated to participate but had to drop out and Kurt Russell’s schedule also became problematic for the production as he was committed elsewhere and they fell behind.

LOL at Waltz tooth wagon.

so Waltz is the villain...?

still hoping for some sort of on-screen DiCapritation

Nah, just sounds like he knows how to extract revenge in the tradition of the master:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG5Qk-jB0D4

Oscar winner Christoph Waltz as a diabolical travelling dentist who has a giant tooth atop his covered wagon

WAT

There's something perfectly trashy spaghetti western about that.

so Waltz is the villain...?

DiCaprio is the villain, Waltz is one of the people Foxx teams up with, from what I understand.

"diabolical" is stupid and totally misleading in that deadline.com story

"politically incorrect dialogue"

Can't wait for the big "Turkey in the straw is clearly a song about fucking a cripple" monologue.

i watched "mandingo" (the 1975 film) a few weeks back. what an amazing, totally unaccountable film.

http://thefilmstage.com/trailer/full-length-trailer-for-quentin-tarantinos-django-unchained/

"Killing white folks and getting paid for it. What's not to like?"

LEO

looks a lot like Basterds. not that that's a bad thing.

Kurt Russell!!

Yay synopsis:

Set in the South two years before the Civil War, DJANGO UNCHAINED stars Academy Award®-winner Jamie Foxx as Django, a slave whose brutal history with his former owners lands him face-to-face with German-born bounty hunter Dr. King Schultz (Academy Award®-winner Christoph Waltz). Schultz is on the trail of the murderous Brittle brothers, and only Django can lead him to his bounty. The unorthodox Schultz acquires Django with a promise to free him upon the capture of the Brittles – dead or alive.

Success leads Schultz to free Django, though the two men choose not to go their separate ways. Instead, Schultz seeks out the South’s most wanted criminals with Django by his side. Honing vital hunting skills, Django remains focused on one goal: finding and rescuing Broomhilda (Kerry Washington), the wife he lost to the slave trade long ago.

Django and Schultz’s search ultimately leads them to Calvin Candie (Academy Award®-nominee Leonardo DiCaprio), the proprietor of “Candyland,” an infamous plantation where slaves are groomed by trainer Ace Woody (Kurt Russell) to battle each other for sport. Exploring the compound under false pretenses, Django and Schultz arouse the suspicion of Stephen (Academy Award®-nominee Samuel L. Jackson), Candie’s trusted house slave. Their moves are marked, and a treacherous organization closes in on them. If Django and Schultz are to escape with Broomhilda, they must choose between independence and solidarity, between sacrifice and survival...

trailer's promising, though not exactly knocking my socks off. maybe that's a good thing. i like these socks.

i am dreading every single word that is going to be written about this

every shot of leo should begin w/a crash zoom

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m57qx0tUCU1rwzsbso6_500.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC8VJ9aeB_g

Okay I roffled at the last line of that.

So I'm already wondering what his next film will be and I'm figuring it has to be sf?

Eric Rohmer-style romance he promised long ago (script will read well in crayon)

OF COURSE it has a remixed version of The Payback

The blood spraying across the cotton was a nice image taken by itself.

Nice to spot MC Gainey, too bad he bites it. Also, Walton Goggins is in this somewhere?

I thought that was Clancy Brown who Waltz shoots near the beginning, but apparently it's James Remar. Also, both James Remar and James Russo are apparently in this.

Think that's Franco Nero at the bar with Django (II).

Highly anticipating Samuel Jackson's haircut (bald on top, puffy white on sides?).

OF COURSE it has a remixed version of The Payback

― ♆ (gr8080), Thursday, June 7, 2012 1:03 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^ real talking

...REVENGE!

Ta-Nehisi Coates says No thanks, not for me.

nothing like judging a movie by its trailer

isn't that what a trailer is for?

no?

I will see the shit out of this movie, but the trailer itself doesn't really do anything for me.

by way of comparison, the trailer for Children of Men was HORRIBLE, so much so that it made me not want to go anywhere near the film - and yet when I did eventually see it I thought it was one of the two best sci-fi films of the last 20 years

The other was Species.

close but no Short Circuit

yeah the trailer for this is surprisingly generic, but i'm pretty sure the inglourious basterds trailer (or several of 'em) was nothing special either. in any event, people who write think pieces about movies based around their trailers are just--

isn't that what a trailer is for?

no?

more yes than no. it is meant to elicit a belief that the film is worth paying to see all of it, which is def a preliminary judgment of the film.

It's marketing, and most of the time the director of the film doesn't even have anything to do with it (although i doubt that's true in this case to be fair)

xpost

no it is not. it is a preliminary judgement of WHETHER YOU WANT TO SEE THE FILM. and if you actually know anything more about the film or the people who made it that might actually supersede or at least complement the trailer. jeez, people.

looks cool. IB had crappy trailer too. i feel confident now that will smith would've been horrible in this

nothing like judging a movie by its trailer

― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, June 7, 2012 5:40 AM (4 hours ago)

script has been out for a year

People who read QT scripts the moment they leak are the worst savages.

lol I'm not an actor, I don't read scripts

"if it was all in the script, why bother to make the movie?" - nicholas ray

well Ta-Nehisi Coates is an actor and a pretty damn good one xp

Back in college, months before it came out, someone gave me a copy of the "Pulp Fiction" script. I literally opened it up, saw the word "chainsaw," then closed it back up again until I had seen the movie.

apparently robert downey jr does that with the word "warehouse."

"I've been reading a lot of scripts lately. You know, it's a lot cheaper than GOING to the movies." - Troy McClure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH1TSNIYj5E

lots of corbucci-style shock zooms, nice.

he should cut the film like that & keep it under 12 minutes

Sam Jackson looking like I hoped he would.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it6rDhrnaVY

god this looks unbelievably stupid

that being said, i will see it and enjoy it

Sam Jackson looking like I hoped he would.

granddad freeman?

I am looking forward to seeing this!

samesies

god this looks unbelievably stupid

Lack of stupidity would have been fatal in Inglourious Basterds imo

yeah but stupid comes in many forms

Quentin says things, etc.:

Django Unchained a Shaft prequel? Really? There’s one more week of shooting on Django, and they just did scenes with Jonah Hill as a member of the Regulators (the pre-Civil War version of the KKK). Quentin Tarantino said it turned into one of the funniest scenes he’s ever done, which he says is up there with the name-colors conversation in Reservoir Dogs. There is one character in the movie that ties into the larger Tarantino-verse which he’s keeping a surprise, but he says Kerry Washington‘s character Brunhilde von Shaft is, in his mind, an ancestor of John Shaft – this prompted QT to start singing the theme song out loud. The panel was moderated by Anthony Breznican from Entertainment Weekly, who said he needed a whole new level of grandiloquent profanity to describe Django, a “twisted, bloody fairy tale,” before introducing Jamie Foxx, Walton Goggins, Don Johnson (with Jeff Bridges-looking facial hair and gray ponytail), Christoph Waltz (long hair and a bushy white beard that almost looks false, like Santa Claus), Washington, and Tarantino (in a leather jacket, dorky felt fedora, and a T-shirt depicting many of his characters as kids playing in a sandbox).

Asked about historical accuracy (i.e. will there be anything like killing Hitler,) Tarantino said there was no need: the pre-Civil War South can’t be depicted as any scarier or more surreal than it was in real life. Django begins the story as an anonymous slave on a chain gang and becomes a cowboy and hero at the end. Foxx drew on experiences growing up in Texas, where he said he had “certain parallel experiences” to Django.

Waltz said he loved that Italians had taken the American genre of the western and made spaghetti westerns, and now American director Tarantino is appropriating their take on that genre. His character, a dentist named Dr. King Schulz, “doesn’t care about other white men.” He doesn’t “rescue” Django, but needs him.

Tarantino said he felt most westerns bend over backwards not to mention slavery, and placing western tropes in the antebellum South with a black character made it fresh for him.

The “sizzle reel” was put together with industry viewers in mind, (featuring only stuff from the first half of the movie, Tarantino noted). “If this is good enough for the industry, it’s good enough for the fans.” The audience predictably loved the exploding gushes of blood, gunshots, Johnny Cash music (possibly temp for the trailer, but let’s hope it’s not), Johnson decked out like Col. Sanders, Foxx shooting Mr. Friendly from Lost (Seriously, he looks exactly the same in this movie as he did on that show) in the chest saying “I like the way you die, boy,” the goofy giant tooth on a spring atop Waltz’ van, the bright blue suit worn by Foxx and mocked by slaves who can’t believe a free man would choose it, Foxx training as a gunslinger against a snowman, and wreaking righteous vengeance with a whip against one of the men who once tortured and branded him. Visually it felt perhaps closest to Kill Bill – which makes sense, since Kill Bill 2 was arguably Tarantino’s first go at incorporating the spaghetti western meme.

Goggins’ character was described as the kind of person Basil Rathbone used to play in swashbucklers, the “schemer who has the king’s ear.” Johnson got a big laugh when he said he worked on his Big Daddy accent by studying Foghorn Leghorn. It turns out Sacha Baron Cohen isn’t in the movie after all, but Quentin still wants to work with him on something. Answering the inevitable fan question, Tarantino said he has no idea what his next movie will be.

Johnson got a big laugh when he said he worked on his Big Daddy accent by studying Foghorn Leghorn.

If he doesn't bust out a 'Boy I say boy' at least once I will feel cheated.

the spaghetti western "meme"?

We live, as you know, in a stupid world.

the italian neorealist meme

im really into silent memes

meme-en-scene

y'all need to watch mandingo in the next few weeks so we can have a thread about mandingo. the richard fleischer movie i mean.

Tarantino's shirt sounds kind of awesome, tbh.

Asked about historical accuracy (i.e. will there be anything like killing Hitler,) Tarantino said there was no need: the pre-Civil War South can’t be depicted as any scarier or more surreal than it was in real life.

So glad he made Nazi Germany so much scarier and more surreal.

haha ya... that was one era that really needed a little help in the scary dept

i think tarantino was just being P.C. in making sure he was not apologizing for slavery. not that he was wrong to do so.

i do question his use of the word "surreal."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-xIrJLBBxw

lol Jonah Hill

i laughed at "who knows what could happen"

That looks awesome. I hope the lighter tone is honed to throughout.

"honed to"?

Not too sure how light a tone can be taken wrt buying and raping a slave.

think he means "hewed to" xp

It'll most likely be a seriocomedy, like every other film Tarantino has made.

it's funny how the trailer's cut really fast like any other trailer, but tarantino's movies tend to be the opposite of that. so no trailer could really convey anything like the flavor of his pacing, which is one of the things that makes his films enjoyable.

^^^my thoughts exactly

This looks like such an unbelievable piece of shit. Watching critics fall all over themselves to take it seriously is gonna end the year on an awesomely tragicomic note.

yeah, you know that di caprio scene is at least 25 min long

xp

Yeah, sorry, I meant hewed.

Not too sure how light a tone can be taken wrt buying and raping a slave.

Dunno, that trailer is pretty much non-stop LOL fodder, so we've got at least some idea. We all know the trailer is to some degree misdirection - scenes will be longer, less flashy - but I hope the tone stays ironically light. I consider "Pulp Fiction" pretty much a straight-up comedy, so I guess I hope this hews closer to that than the more serio-comedic "Kill Bill" or "Inglorious Basterds."

This looks like such an unbelievable piece of shit.

I can imagine not liking the final product, but I don't see how you could say this based on the trailer alone. What is it that bugs you about it?

they tend to release different trailers with different tones. a "dark" trailer, a "funny" trailer, etc. so i wouldn't read too much into that trailer. honestly aside from some glimpses of nice visual moments the trailers don't really have me worried or excited. it's the guy's track record that has me excited.

What is it that bugs you about it?

Every line of dialogue. Every performance. Every scene. The whole thing repulses me on an almost physical level. I feel like if someone praised this movie in my presence, I might smash out all their teeth with my shoe.

I feel like if someone praised this movie in my presence, I might smash out all their teeth with my shoe.

Sounds like a scene from...a Tarantino film.

lol

haha

:D <- toothless grin

:H

one left

What is it that bugs you about it?

Every line of dialogue. Every performance. Every scene. The whole thing repulses me on an almost physical level. I feel like if someone praised this movie in my presence, I might smash out all their teeth with my shoe.

― 誤訳侮辱, Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:28 PM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A+. when you troll, at least keep it frisky.

Trailer's modeled on Girl With The Dragon Tattoo Xmas-counterproframming style.

As long as they use the original Django theme I will probably enjoy this movie no matter how dumb or ultra-violent it is. I <3 Luis Bacalov.

the color looks really good. i dunno if it's been timed/processed yet, but it's super sharp and snazzy looking.

DiCaprio's bad teeth are mesmerizing

http://mindweaponsinragnarok.wordpress.com/2012/12/04/django-unchained-incitement-to-racially-motivated-murder-adn-the-silence-of-the-splc-adl-mass-media-and-professoriat/

This is a ridiculous complaint on so many levels - firstly Django's a fictional character, secondly it's rhetorical hyperbole, & thirdly it's applicable only to a specific historical context (i.e. isn't that the same kind of thing the religious right claims makes pro-genocide statements in old testament acceptable or at least irrelevant today); also, there's nothing even remotely immoral about a freed slave wanting to kill key players in the white slave-supporting power structure at the time.

The link came from this tweet in my twitter feed
heartiste ‏@heartiste
Any white person who sees the movie Django is committing the equivalent of bending over and asking for an ass-ramming. http://tinyurl.com/bzl6yv5
Retweeted by Black Conservative

say whatnow

Lol this reminds me of the conversation I overheard at lunch the other day, two older white woman just fretting over this movie and the "implications" of advocating the murder of white people. If nothing else, lets give QT credit for outing ignorant people.

Some of them appear onscreen during the film, too.

welp i guess I'm bending over asking for an ass-ramming then because I am SO seeing this

lol

Would Marcellus Wallace bend over for an ass-ramming?

has Spike Lee weighed in on this yet?

No, but the NAACP has...

Outstanding Motion Picture
• “Beasts of the Southern Wild” (Fox Searchlight Pictures)
• “Django Unchained” (The Weinstein Company)
• “Flight” (Paramount Pictures)
• “Red Tails” (Lucasfilm)
• “Tyler Perry’s Good Deeds” (Lionsgate)

I absolutely <3 <3 <3 that they nominated Django and not Lincoln.

Also:

Outstanding Actress in a Motion Picture
• Emayatzy Corinealdi – “Middle of Nowhere” (AAFRM)
• Halle Berry – “Cloud Atlas” (Warner Bros. Pictures)
• Loretta Devine – “In The Hive” (Eone Entertainment)
• Quvenzhané Wallis – “Beasts of the Southern Wild” (Fox Searchlight Pictures)
• Viola Davis – “Won’t Back Down” (20th Century Fox)

i hate quentin tarantino. that blog post was stupid, but each of tarantino's films that i have seen has caused me to feel extremely depressed. brutality, pain, and suffering aren't funny to me, i guess. i can accept dark humor, but i don't find the spectacle of, say, samuel l. jackson psychologically fucking with kids before murdering them funny in itself. also the scene with the "gimp" in pulp fiction is incredibly homophobic. the only thing i've ever liked in his films is brad pitt's attempt to pose as italian at the end of inglorious bastards. "arrivederci".

maybe this isn't the place to debate quentin tarantino's whole career, but i have yet to read a defense of him i found convincing. watching his movies is like watching someone play grand theft auto for two hours.

what's funny if pain and suffering aren't?

doesn't sound like you could ever be convinced? your criticisms are pretty categorical. there's no rule that says you has to like him.

my personal view: i don't find qt to be brutal -- maybe I just like all those revenge fantasies he keeps creating, it's just kind of in my wheelhouse i guess? he hasn't made a movie that I haven't liked/loved. i like his story choices, i love that I can watch inglourious basterds 10 times and still get something out of it each time; and a lot of his movies stand up to multiple rewatches; his movies are always visually interesting to me, i like the way he uses color especially in things like Kill Bill or IB, i like his music choices...and I enjoy the moviegoing experience of seeing QT in the theater. He's one of the few directors whose movies I look forward to for that reason.

i think my issue (re humor in pain and suffering) is that in qt movies we are often invited to laugh at the weak from the perspective of the strong. this makes me feel uncomfortable, i suppose. with inglorious basterds a lot of my friends basically thought it was hilarious to see nazis killed in inventive, horrible ways "because they were nazis". i think there are dehumanizing techniques that qt uses in each of his films to allow the viewer to feel comfortable with ugly forms of enjoyment such as the cathartic infliction of pain on other individuals. this probably sounds stodgy and moralistic, but something about the way violence is framed in his films makes me feel physically nauseated. i don't get this with many other filmmakers.

I think you might be "getting" qt more than yr friends yukking it up do tbh?

in our blah blah whatever society, it takes some doing to make violence on screen actually violent. cf. Pan's Labyrinth, No Country for Old Men

maybe my issue is one of tone rather than with the fact of violence in his film. i don't love the sense of detachment, that all is spectacle and nothing matters. that in itself seems brutal, in a way. i see what you are saying though, vegemitegrrl about how his movies all look and feel a certain way that is appealing. i agree that they are stylish films that all seem to exist in their own unique world that sets them apart from films made by other directors. i love wes anderson and woody allen for this reason as they have similarly idiosyncratic, unmistakable styles.

yeah i definitely agree with you silby. those films are amazing because they kind of "re-sensitize" the viewer who is inured to being emotionally affected by imagery. i think this is a crucial function of art. the russian formalist viktor shklovsky said this - that art should help to enliven our perceptual faculties, to make us more sensitive and imaginative. qt movies, as pastiches of B-movie tropes and imagery, seem to do the opposite of this, like a lot of pop culture products.

http://mindweaponsinragnarok.wordpress.com/2012/12/04/django-unchained-incitement-to-racially-motivated-murder-adn-the-silence-of-the-splc-adl-mass-media-and-professoriat/

This is a ridiculous complaint on so many levels - firstly Django's a fictional character, secondly it's rhetorical hyperbole, & thirdly it's applicable only to a specific historical context (i.e. isn't that the same kind of thing the religious right claims makes pro-genocide statements in old testament acceptable or at least irrelevant today); also, there's nothing even remotely immoral about a freed slave wanting to kill key players in the white slave-supporting power structure at the time.

― Campari G&T, Tuesday, December 11, 2012 11:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

thanks for linking to this white nationalist blog

lol that is what that site is isn't it

great site admin cool boy

pulp fiction is at best equivocal about the moral value of how samuel jackson is living in the first scene, i guess

i'm tempted to claim i think he's a "deeply moral filmmaker" or something like that but film crit isn't really my forte

i mean, i'm not asking the movie to condemn him. i think my main issue is how appealing and "unreal" the violence in that scene is, even as it extracts thrill-value from the fearfulness of his victims as he toys with them. one could argue that tarantino is simplying rendering more transparent dynamics at work in many other films and is thus being honest about the role violence really plays in producing cinematic pleasure. i wouldn't necessarily disagree with that reading.

but i don't think his films constitute a critique of popular cinema -- more of a love letter -- so while they are detached and in some ways have an analytical stance toward the mechanisms of crime movies, this never amounts to more than a pose, in my opinion.

i think QT is a little more morally responsible than people give him credit for wrt violence. like, the violence in his movies is usually pretty horrible and brutal and actually makes you feel something, which i think is a lot better than the much more common type of movie violence, the fraudulent and sanitized sort that fudges it so nobody gets upset. i also think something like Inglorious Basterds does a clever job of playing with audience sympathies so that when the big violent moments come, they're troublingly un-cathartic - you're left a little repulsed at what the Allies have done throughout the movie, and you're asking yourself if violent revenge is what you really wanted. that would be the last movie of his where i would make the charge that he lets the audience off the hook

I recall reading a fairly formalist blog analysis of Basterds outlining the ways in which that film indicts its own audience which you might want to google xp

even with the violence in pulp fiction, which is largely played glibly and for humor, there's moments of real horror. the scene where Marcellus shoots a random lady as he's trying to gun down Butch always makes me recoil...

that reading of inglorious basterds sounds intriguing. i will try to find that article.

it was discussed in the IB thread - which is actually full of good conversation abt that movie

yeah i mean, my interpretation of the horror i felt while watching his films was that i wasn't *supposed* to feel that way -- that the films were supposed to exist in a sort of grand theft auto world where nothing matters -- and so I saw him as the exemplary master of the hollywood blockbuster rather than a critic of it. i guess an argument for his brilliance would assert that he is both.

also re sanitized violence, i think what makes me uneasy about qt is that the violence in his movies is at the same time visceral and sanitized - that the films, through their detachment and meta-referentiality, succeed in creating a space where awful things can be "safely" enjoyed, which is a very troubling thing.

yeah QT seems to have a good sense of ~level~s of violence, and when to dial it up for reaction. and different protagonists/antagonists use it differently, for different effect, to different ends. but i don't feel like he ever really *mis*-uses it.

whether it's overrused is probably down to personal taste/distaste etc

thanks for linking to this white nationalist blog

― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 06:58 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In all honesty, I hadn't the slightest idea this was a white supremacist blog - I skimmed the post then thought its absurdity was worth commenting on. As I stated it was a link that originally came through on someone's tweet - and I follow people all the time on twitter without bothering to vet their pc credentials. I was very specific about how I became aware of these stupid comments, and it was not from browsing white nationalist sites!

Im just bustin your chops Campy. I like to get my stormfront on as much as the next guy

I feel bad about this now. Original tweet had been retweeted by "Black Conservative". Surely on that basis one couldn't expect the blog post approved of by "Black Conservative" would be on race hate site? (A blog post that I was ridiculing in any case.) Sorry, didn't intend to link to such a site.

'heartiste' is a well-known anti-feminist 'pick up artist' blogger. who also goes for all the hard right/old right/scientific racist stuff out there.

I had a lot to say about IB lol

kinda can't imagine QT topping it but I am pretty excited for this

he is definitely a heavily moralistic filmmaker

violence matters a LOT in his movies, baffled that anyone could come away from his films thinking that "nothing matters"

Django has one scene of predominately implied violence that I found almost unbearable. The rest of the violence is the opposite of implied and the opposite of unbearable.

This is prolly the first QT I'll just see on DVD

I was thinking of Django as part 3 of a revenge trilogy with Kill Bill and IB. I'd rather he made an entirely new film than play around in formal exercises.

― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:44 PM

This still applies for me. Still not sure I'll bother to see this on the big screen.

Peter Bradshaw in the Guardian gives it 5 stars http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/dec/12/django-unchained-first-look-review Don't know what to make of this as he gave IB, which I mostly love, only one star.

Django Unchained also has the pure, almost meaningless excitement which I found sorely lacking in Tarantino's previous film, Inglourious Basterds, with its misfiring spaghetti-Nazi trope and boring plot.

lol @ this idiot

that boring plot about killing hitler

oh THAT one

The details box in that review says 136 minutes, but Bradshaw in the review says 2 hrs 45 minutes. I assume he just can't do the math, or is it actually 2:45:00?

IB was boring! it was "about" a group of misfits tearassing around occupid france, but it filmed all the parts where they sat around talking to each other.

It felt like 2:45, but I didn't check my phone at the end.

it was "about" a group of misfits tearassing around occupid france

this isn't really what it was about

but it filmed all the parts where they sat around talking to each other.

welcome to QT films, tbh

but yeah scarequotes okay

xp

haha i would probably agree that ib was superficially "boring" in a way but i also think it was kind of the point

Hm, ok, IMDB says 165 minutes.

QT fans' biggest problem is that it takes well over half the movie before Django gets to one of those "building tension through incongruously flowery dialogue" setpieces. Up to that point, they'll have to be sustained by the n-word.

i mean re. "boring," pretty much every tarantino movie ever is him sticking various spanners into the way exploitation movies are "supposed" to work as contraptions designed to efficiently pump the lizard brain. you may not LIKE that, and i go back and forth myself, but it's pretty clearly an aesthetic strategy.

yeah I sometimes think he adds the long draggy conversation scenes in just because he knows everyone's waiting for 'action!' etc. which might be giving him too much leeway, I mean god knows he's a guy who loves the sound of his own voice/his own words coming out of other ppls mouths.

but I think he knows that his fans know that a loooooong talky scene usually pays off with something p cool afterwards.

but i mean he does that in a lot of different ways, too. like for example [uh SPOILERS i guess] setting up the big hugo stiglitz introductory set-piece and then the guy takes a bullet in the face or whatever before we even really get to see him do anything.

the parts where they talk to each other are the best and tensest parts of ib!!

i mean again you don't have to like it or even agree that it has any value beyond qt fucking around on harvey's dime but it's there.

the conversation btw landa and the farmer, the conversation btw landa and shoshanna, and the scene w/ fassbender at the pub are IBs peaks imo. the movies politics & ethics aside those are pretty unbelievable scenes for generating tension and interest through 15 minutes of dialogue

max otm -- the dialogue scenes in IB are great, tension-wise

that goddamn strudel scene stressed me the fuck out

Those are all peaks, but anyone who doesn't say QT's restaging of Carrie's prom scene is that movie's peak can gtfo.

is that movie's PRIME peak, I mean

yeah max otm (xp)

pub scene is peak of the film imo

altho yeah theater apocalypse works on so many levels. I dunno

the parts where they talk to each other are the best and tensest parts of ib!!

― max, Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:49 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

these are written like a 9th grader's idea of a tense dialogue tho.

idk just about every choice in that movie rubbed me the wrong way but it's been long enough the whys and wherefores are hazy now.

nah no way man

yeah i don't understand how anyone could find those scenes lacking in tension, 9th grade version or otherwise

it's easily the best stuff he ever wrote, dialogue-wise, too

c'mon the explanation of film critic's obscure accent is k-lassic

well, tension is one quality, good is another i guess. i'm not arguing the former!

i mean i laughed out loud when landa shifted the dialogue into english in the farm because it was just so good

“Am I the story of the Negro in America?"

QT fans' biggest problem is that it takes well over half the movie before Django gets to one of those "building tension through incongruously flowery dialogue" setpieces. Up to that point, they'll have to be sustained by the n-word.

― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, December 12, 2012 12:33 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Good enough for Drudge, good enough for me tbqh

http://mediamatters.org/static/images/item/drudge-20121212-tarantino.jpg

oh my god

all the awesome touches in IB, and how it felt like he finally had coalesced all of his 'signature' bits and pieces into a pretty brilliant take on a war movie...I mean, IB on its own is good enough reason to be p excited about Django

lol, Drudge otm

Drudge would rather have Django back in chains!

-- Joe Biden

i am with goole wrt IB, but i think i have broadcasted that loud and clear on ilx many times.

the pub scene in IB is arguably imo the best scene in any tarantino film.

Of course i think his strongest run is both kill bills and deathproof, so i might have gone in with unfair expectations of continued rising awesomeness

maybe watch sumpin good like Mandingo

the conversation btw landa and the farmer, the conversation btw landa and shoshanna, and the scene w/ fassbender at the pub are IBs peaks imo. the movies politics & ethics aside those are pretty unbelievable scenes for generating tension and interest through 15 minutes of dialogue

This is all the movie is -- at least that's all I watch.

i remember when KB2 came out i was annoyed with the long conversations (and 'tino in general), but he really perfected the approach in IB imo

definitely

god I really want to watch IB now

Don't forget the Mike Myers scene!

after it was over I didn't much like strudel and "Cat People" tbh

whaaat

oh wait I see what you mean

I was googling to try to remember the lines from the strudel scene and there are a whole ton of IB-based strudel recipes now, haha

I like all the aimless (and not aimless) dialogue bits in Tarantino films, but iirc the dullest bits in "IB" were all the bits involving said Basterds. Everything else was ace, or at least greatly superior to Pitt et al. doofing about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKH7YRHq3iQ

yeah i <3 the IB's doofing about

ah ah ah! wait for cream.

IBs doofing around were fine, just distracting, which was ironic, given they are the title. It would be like calling, I dunno, Return of the Jedi The Inglorious Ewoks.

i believe "landa: the wacky adventures of a gentleman jew-hunter" was declined by the studio.

I can't remember if this was on the IB thread, but I love it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXDeKw40Fcc

xpost lol strongo

pitt was so hilarious

Pitt was super funny. Just distracted me, since I sometimes though it would have made its own silly adjunct of a movie. Like, at the end, when she's setting her Nazi plan in motion, and they all show up, I was all, ooh, I hope these Nazi hunters don't fuck up her plan to kill those Nazis!

Her revenge plot was much better fleshed out than his, save the extraneous tale of the Bear.

at least Pitt wore a mustache to telegraph how funny he was.

tarantino digging up waltz for that role was the best unearthing of an austrian actor since hitchcock brought leopoldine konstantin for 'notorious'

Need to make a photoshop of Drudge headline with Patti Smith Horses photo.

Basterds would be best viewed as the back half of an arthouse double feature with Schindler's List.

Also, seems like Sharen Davis should get some recognition for the costumes.

Interesting conversation earlier today. Though I generally love Quentin Tarantino's movies, I agree with Pat Finn that they seem to flaunt their own meaninglessness. They generate emotional effects and clearly intend to, but their relationship to anything outside the cinema is tangential at best. We believe in the flagrantly artificial "reality" being created for as long as we inhabit it, but nothing larger is really being said. Even if Inglourious Basterds indicts its audience (and I'd say that it very clearly does), it does so only because it's an intriguingly perverse gesture, one that adds further complexity to an already multilayered narrative.

I was disturbed by the accidental brain-splattering when I first saw Pulp Fiction. This was a product both of morality and expectation (though the distance between the two is negligible). I was shocked that a seemingly innocent "human being" would be thrown away so casually in service only of a joke, and I didn't know how I was supposed to feel about it. That's what really troubled me: not what had happened, but the lack of obvious moral framing. We're used to being guided through the experience of ostensibly "entertaining" cinema, an expectation that causes Tarantino's seemingly amoral deployment of shocking brutality to resonate uncomfortably.

Quentin Tarantino's movies strike me as sadistic, deeply cynical and all but meaningless, but those aren't necessarily bad qualities when it comes to the cinema. I suspect his cynicism and lack of concern for anything outside the world onscreen help him manipulate us so effectively and enjoyably. And many of my favorite filmmakers are sadists. Tarantino (like Peckinpah and Verhoeven before him) ups the ante on the sort of brutality we're willing to countenance in the name of entertainment, but I don't feel he's trangressing an uncrossable line. He's just working a little harder, smarter and nastier than most. I respect that.

The brain-splattering in 1994, and the ear-cutting in 1992, seemed to be a counter to the fake violence of 80s action movies. "Waving a gun around" was such an insignificant gesture in, say, Running Scared and Shakedown, that T seemed to be looking to make the same trope more realistic. I'm not a mega-defender of Tarantino, but a lot of what he seemed to be doing then (and still seems to be doing now) is working to be a better storyteller than most, and to make the most of a minute of an audience's attention.

otm, especially that last bit.

i think the ear-cutting is a deliberate mini-essay on the use of threatened, implied and graphic violence in cinema. we're supposed to see it as a series of demonstrations as much as a series of things that happened. works incredibly well either way.

ear-cutting is like my all-time film scene

marvin naaaaaaashh

^^

my fav reservoir dogs behind the scenes story is how Michael madsen drove around with the actor who played the cop in his trunk for twenty min or something "to get into character" against the other dude's wishes iirc.

maybe worth pointing out that qt actually initially shot the ear-cutting scene straight, didn't pan away, apparently had a pretty graphic close-up of madsen sawing away, etc.

i can't remember if he changed it because audiences/producers reacted poorly, or because he realized it worked better the other way. i'm guessing the latter, because if anything it's harder to watch as the scene we know, which i doubt would have pleased test audiences turned off by the sight of forced van gogh-ing.

'heartiste' is a well-known anti-feminist 'pick up artist' blogger. who also goes for all the hard right/old right/scientific racist stuff out there.

― before and after broscience (goole), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 13:32 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wasn't well known to me, but thanks for info, now unfollowed.

On the other hand, if not for my inadvertently following this guy, how else could I have learned about the ass-pummelling I've clearly been setting myself up for?

i'm about as big a fan of Pulp/Dogs /Romance as you can get but got to agree with all the Inglorious Basterds yea sayers; IB all by itself woulda made me excited for Django.

xxpost; re the ear-scene yeah it was a very much more intense straight chop off at first; its on the DVD on the 'extras' with a big warning that flashes up beforehand. i think people woulda fainted. interestingly in the (rubbish) book about the indie movie scene of the 90s, Peter Biskind describes an argument between QT and Harvey Weinstein in the foyer after an early Dogs screening whereby HW was pretty insistent that the ear scene had to go; even in its current form with the cut away, and QT wasn't having it.

I find nothing terribly special about the way Tarantino's films look.

Not seen IB - certainly wouldn't defend them on that score though.

Thing about the ear-cutting is not so much about how violent or not it actually is, more that its tied to not much of a narrative or people you might care about. Hate doing this but contrast that to the offscreen torture in Rome, Open City.

Or Oedipus Rex!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEBJVqG4rps

TS: Quentin Tarantino vs. Sophocles

Man, this was...a bit of a disappointment, I gotta say. Funny, fast, effective first hour, steady downhill progression after that for me.

Easily his most problematic movie in terms of pacing. I guess Menke helped reign him in after all.

apparently QT is saying this is his last movie...?

Nah, he said he has only five movies left or something along those lines.

Fact check: two more movies after this one

ah I must have miscounted

Tarantino and Soderbergh should swapped unproduced scripts.

Aren't most of his movies twofers?

From the recent Hollywood Reporter directors' roundtable:

I'm really well versed on a lot of directors' careers, you know, and when you look at those last five films when they were past it, when they were too old, and they're really out of touch with the times, whether it be William Wyler and 'The Liberation of L.B. Jones' or Billy Wilder with 'Fedora' and then 'Buddy Buddy' or whatever the hell. To me, it's all about my filmography, and I want to go out with a terrific filmography. ''Death Proof' has got to be the worst movie I ever make. And for a left-handed movie, that wasn't so bad, all right? -- so if that's the worst I ever get, I'm good. But I do think one of those out-of-touch, old, limp, flaccid-dick movies costs you three good movies as far as your rating is concerned.

I'd take Death Proof over Kill Bill any day, fwiw.

Death Proof is way underrated

death proof is rad, QT u mad

Watched both Kill Bills a few weeks ago, they're so fucking boring. Death Proof is amazing.

Death Proof and Kill Bills are both horrible. I'd pretty much given up on QT after that run

Stoked

this is gonna be a gooood Christmas imo

not in the same league as Inglourious Basterds sadly

http://philly.barstoolsports.com/files/2012/12/YES-e1355377004177.jpg

I will never understand why film directors tend to be among the worst dressed people in the world.

It's easier if you're a moronic fatass fan of racist '70s movies.

def the trio of fundraisers I laughed the hardest at

Aternate cast for Miami Vice.

L-R: Colin Mochrie, Wayne Brady, Greg Proops

Movie people in general seem to pay less attention to their own appearance than other creative industries

it's true, and i don't really understand why this is so. isn't hollywood an extremely image-conscious environment? why doesn't this image-consciousness extend to quentin tarantino and ron howard?

because no one gives a shit what they look like?

i guess so, but still, why don't they care? maybe it has to do with the voyeurism of cinema: the idea that the director is essentially this detached gaze with no real being of his own. maybe also this isn't actually a fruitful avenue of inquiry to follow.

i would go see this on christmas day but i hate leo so much. he ruins every movie. so i'm torn...

every character he plays is like watching greg brady play george washington in the school play.

directors used to look great. everything's gone to hell.

bring back jodhpurs

Nolan directs in a topcoat and suit, but doesn't do benefits,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSxKHQPPF7Q

man he really does dress like a 12yo

i think his saying he wants 2 be a talk show host made it click in my mind how much his head looks like charlie roses

ok guys i know QT is an annoying turdbag that dresses like a toddler but i really think that inglourious basterds deserves more credit, if any any other filmmaker made a huge budget tentpole oscarwinning film with movie stars that was 1)mostly subtitled 2)mostly people talking while sitting/standing still 3)ended with hitler and goebbles getting shot in the face, more people would recognize IB for what it is: one of the most formally daring major studio movies ever made, and a bold move for any filmmaker, no matter how powerful they are, and even if you hate it i think you have to tip your hat to it and acknowledge that QT really went out on a limb with it.

i think most people like it?

they do, but he could've very very easily just coasted and adapted elmore leonard for the rest of his life and it's weird to me when ppl dismiss it as the flailings of an attention whore or mindless grindhouse enthusiast when its clearly to me a carefully measured artistic statement

I like it too but he doesn't get credit for intentions.

oh i generally think that, its just that the tone of the criticisms of IB bug me. i don't think "bamboozled" a film by spike lee is an actually good film but i do respect that making such an angry and polemical movie shot on consumer-grade digital camcorders at that stage in his career is a pretty brazen move, and i would criticize it for its artistic failings and wouldn't be like "another dick yank by spike...zzzzzz"

a huge budget tentpole oscarwinning film

you don't know what a tentpole is

or a formally daring major studio movie

fine tentpole was overstepping but c'mon man that movie was formally daring, i know you are number one QT hater on here but you have to admit that it's a weird movie.

not as weird as this formally daring major studio movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWvX0-fHvRU

i liked IB a lot. his movies still feel like events. don't know how many american directors you can even say that about anymore. david lynch? who else? i don't think scorsese movies are a big deal when they open anymore. but tarantino still gets buzz/excitement from people. years ago lots of people got that buzz. there's nobody left. nobody gets excited about cohen brothers movies or whatever.

Paul Thomas Anderson

and Malick i guess. Though that might not be for much longer

malick used to but he watered down his brand

Christopher Nolan?

not as weird as this formally daring major studio movie

Directed by Richard Rush (The Stunt Man).

i enjoy watching director quentin tanatanos movies why because they are fun to watch the end

And, yeah: Lynch, PT Anderson, and Tarantino are the only big directors whose films I get excited about. I try to still feel that way about Woody Allen but it just doesn't work anymore.

Definitely felt that way about Altman, too (RIP).

Michael Mann, despite Public Enemies.

i know you are number one QT hater on here but you have to admit that it's a weird movie.

that would require seeing the movie, which he hasn't

someone had to replace momus. morbz more than up to the task.

i guess i can comfort myself with the fact that leo probably dies some humiliating gruesome death in this movie. maybe that will make up for him being in the movie. so frustrating though. if you're gonna have some sly super-evil slave-fighting plantation owner why pick babyface doofus? when has he ever played a credible adult? when in doubt, get liam neeson. we already established (on some other thread) that he rarely plays villains and who's scarier really?

moronic fatass fan of racist '70s movies.

<3 morbs

many of qt's movies are in tents

:D

:(

Pretty sure Morbs did end up finally watching IB and called it shit or thereabouts.

oh for real? huh

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000824249/polls_GomerSurprise_1140_696117_answer_1_xlarge.jpeg

<3 u for that omar

I just love riding in cars!

man he really does dress like a 12yo

more relevant that he writes like one.

fine tentpole was overstepping

doesn't surprise me that Generation Doof enthusiasts of this guy use MARKETING lingo (inaccurately) when trying to describe aesthetic virtues.

lazy moviegoers = stupid filmmakers' "events"

yeah, I saw IB CUZ YOU PEOPLE FORCED ME JUST LIKE I VOTED FOR OBAMA IN THE '08 NY PRIMARY FUCK ALL OF YOU AND GOODNIGHT.

I don't know any 12 yo godard fans let's be real

yeah, I saw IB CUZ YOU PEOPLE FORCED ME JUST LIKE I VOTED FOR OBAMA IN THE '08 NY PRIMARY FUCK ALL OF YOU AND GOODNIGHT.

lol, you big baby

oh noes MARKETING

yeah like THE GODFATHER FRANCHISE

THE APU FRANCHISE

THE RING CYCLE

I hope to one day be as pure and unsullied in thought, language, and action as is our esteemed Doctor.

http://www.thisblogrules.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/goldwater.jpg

i may regret this post but: IB is perhaps kinda interesting but calling it "formally daring" is a bit of a stretch, imo. i dont really think his appropriation of exploitation tropes is really as transgressive (or as entertaining) as his champions seem to feel they are. i think he has kind of a "knack" for putting together moments that have a certain pull or power but it's hard, for me anyway, to ever really connect that to anything more interesting. his films are impeccable in many respects but oppressive for that same reason: there's not really *any* risks in a QT film, as far as I can tell, and that's boring. even the supposed emotional core of his films strike me as ultimately vacant, borrowed, appropriated. he wants to tell stories of empowerment but only though HIS voice, HIS obsessions. his films are designed to flatter his audience. and i've said it around here before, but maybe i only feel that way because i dont have the same taste in movies that he does.

sorry for that, but QT films just rub me the wrong way, and i have a really hard time figuring out why.

seems you've figured out why pretty well. nice post.

yeah. there are a handfull of QT films that i like a whole lot but daring isn't a word i've considered throwing at them. his movies are fun because they're vacant. it's sort of the point. idk maybe QT thinks otherwise, i don't really care. it's what i get out of them.