7.9 and 8.8 Earthquakes in Japan

As well as a tsunami, apparently.

30m tsunami heading towards NW Honshu island.

sorry 10m tsunami.

cnn correspondent tweeted that Phillippines already noting strange water movements on the coastline, this is some scary shit

Coworkers in Tokyo and Osaka said it was really shaking but not a lot of damage. Probably not the case in Sendai.

One hell of an earthquake swarm:

MAG UTC Lat Lon Depth (km)
7.1 06:25:51 38.074 144.559 26.5
6.8 06:15:46 36.126 140.234 30.2
6.4 06:07:22 36.401 141.862 35.4
6.4 06:06:11 39.025 142.316 25.1
8.8 05:46:24 38.322 142.369 24.4

8.9 now. seeing some insane footage on cnn.

Just got upgraded to 8.9...report of a 6.8 aftershock in Tokyo...crikey

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/145_40.gif

http://www.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/

Showing live footage...

The tsunami footage is .... I dunno if I can keep watching this

oh my god

This is freaking SCARY and I'm not even anywhere near there.

I've never seen tsunami footage like this.

a week ago, 50 dolphins were washed ashore around the seismic source..
http://popup777.net/archives/17402/

this seems to be way beyond the indian ocean tsunami

Oh god

I haven't seen anything like this before... shocking...

Apparently Taiwan and Russia are at risk too, chilling.

PNG and Indonesia on notice for tsunami....Jesus...

LOCATION FORECAST POINT COORDINATES ARRIVAL TIME
JAPAN KATSUURA 35.1N 140.3E 0635Z 11 MAR
KUSHIRO 42.9N 144.3E 0642Z 11 MAR
HACHINOHE 40.5N 141.5E 0700Z 11 MAR
SHIMIZU 32.8N 133.0E 0756Z 11 MAR
OKINAWA 26.2N 127.8E 0912Z 11 MAR
RUSSIA URUP_IS 46.1N 150.5E 0714Z 11 MAR
SEVERO_KURILSK 50.8N 156.1E 0834Z 11 MAR
PETROPAVLOVSK_K 53.2N 159.6E 0836Z 11 MAR
UST_KAMCHATSK 56.1N 162.6E 0840Z 11 MAR
MEDNNY_IS 54.7N 167.4E 0903Z 11 MAR
MARCUS IS. MARCUS_IS. 24.3N 154.0E 0757Z 11 MAR
N. MARIANAS SAIPAN 15.3N 145.8E 0853Z 11 MAR
GUAM GUAM 13.4N 144.7E 0909Z 11 MAR
WAKE IS. WAKE_IS. 19.3N 166.6E 0925Z 11 MAR
TAIWAN HUALIEN 24.0N 121.7E 0932Z 11 MAR
HUALIEN 24.0N 121.6E 0933Z 11 MAR
TAITUNG 22.7N 121.2E 0936Z 11 MAR
CHILUNG 25.2N 121.8E 1004Z 11 MAR
YAP YAP_IS. 9.5N 138.1E 0944Z 11 MAR
PHILIPPINES PALANAN 17.1N 122.6E 0955Z 11 MAR
LEGASPI 13.2N 123.8E 1026Z 11 MAR
DAVAO 6.8N 125.7E 1053Z 11 MAR
MARSHALL IS. ENIWETOK 11.4N 162.3E 1013Z 11 MAR
KWAJALEIN 8.7N 167.7E 1044Z 11 MAR
MAJURO 7.1N 171.4E 1124Z 11 MAR
BELAU MALAKAL 7.3N 134.5E 1025Z 11 MAR
MIDWAY IS. MIDWAY_IS. 28.2N 182.6E 1026Z 11 MAR
POHNPEI POHNPEI_IS. 7.0N 158.2E 1027Z 11 MAR
CHUUK CHUUK_IS. 7.4N 151.8E 1034Z 11 MAR
KOSRAE KOSRAE_IS. 5.5N 163.0E 1043Z 11 MAR
INDONESIA GEME 4.6N 126.8E 1049Z 11 MAR
BEREBERE 2.5N 128.7E 1058Z 11 MAR
WARSA 0.6S 135.8E 1110Z 11 MAR
MANOKWARI 0.8S 134.2E 1118Z 11 MAR
PATANI 0.4N 128.8E 1124Z 11 MAR
JAYAPURA 2.4S 140.8E 1135Z 11 MAR
SORONG 0.8S 131.1E 1135Z 11 MAR
PAPUA NEW GUINE MANUS_IS. 2.0S 147.5E 1124Z 11 MAR
KAVIENG 2.5S 150.7E 1124Z 11 MAR
VANIMO 2.6S 141.3E 1134Z 11 MAR
WEWAK 3.5S 143.6E 1146Z 11 MAR
RABAUL 4.2S 152.3E 1154Z 11 MAR
KIETA 6.1S 155.6E 1205Z 11 MAR
AMUN 6.0S 154.7E 1211Z 11 MAR
MADANG 5.2S 145.8E 1215Z 11 MAR
NAURU NAURU 0.5S 166.9E 1149Z 11 MAR
JOHNSTON IS. JOHNSTON_IS. 16.7N 190.5E 1202Z 11 MAR
SOLOMON IS. PANGGOE 6.9S 157.2E 1221Z 11 MAR
FALAMAE 7.4S 155.6E 1222Z 11 MAR
MUNDA 8.4S 157.2E 1239Z 11 MAR
KIRIBATI TARAWA_IS. 1.5N 173.0E 1228Z 11 MAR

hey guys no one turn on CNN they're talking about tweets

for what its worth, Al Jazeera is running the NHK stream at better resolution.

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

Second wave coming ashore right now.

I feel sick

People on top of the airport terminal!

jesus fuck

Imagine walking out on that roof and seeing nothing but water and destruction for miles and miles.

This CNN anchor is the worst

Oh man the refinery fire

I'm listening to the Al-Jazeera stream and watching CNN on mute.

i mean i'm sure doing this isn't easy, but seriously she's terrible

yeah I dont know how anyone isnt just saying holy shit over and over but she is really way too glib and awful

ive been watching this for 30 mins now and still feel like i don't know anything about what's going - msnbc keeps referring to "heavily populated areas" while camera pans over sparsely populated farmland...then cuts to what looks like a more moderately populous place totally underwater with tons of cars floating around - how far do these waves reach?

ok camera showing whole town literally under water...god

is there a way to watch this online

o fuc that's horrible

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

same footage as all the cable news channels atm

xp

the cnn anchor just said "i am being flooded with tweets" : /

I hate her with every fibre of my being right now

Australia tsunami warning 15:28gmt

Fucking hell

on al jazeera they just said that a roof caved in at a graduation ceremony at a university in japan -- 600 students were inside

my heart goes out to the people of sendai and miyagi. i lived there two years.

they are showing the coastline, the city of sendai(1.5 m) is about 10 km inland. the airport must have been sendai's, near the water.

Oh no.

is there a way to watch this online

You really don't need to do this.

Entire Pacific Rim on tsunami watch now.

oh jesus

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

Veg: Aus Bureau of Meteorology is saying no threat to Aus (not that I'm disregarding the millions of people in other countries in the firing line)

on al jazeera they just said that a roof caved in at a graduation ceremony at a university in japan -- 600 students were inside

― J0rdan S., Thursday, March 10, 2011 11:42 PM (2 minutes ago)

on NHK they said that several students were injured, nothing critical.

i think this is where we're looking at with the NHK stream
http://i53.tinypic.com/of1341.jpg

Tsunami warning extended for most of US Pacific coast.

my little sister is in jp :-/

on NHK they said that several students were injured, nothing critical.

― taco al pastorius (Steve Shasta), Friday, March 11, 2011 2:46 AM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark

aight cool

What's her routine, deej? Do they usually stay on the ship, or head into town immediately?

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/hazard/icons/1968_0516.jpg

im not sure. she was on medical leave in tokyo, is normally on the other side of the country

Tokyo seems to be okay according to reports.

im watching an effin boat coast across farmland o_O

^^^^

fuck earthquakes. tokyo is fine, deej.

@ deej - that's shocking footage, the cars racing against it on the highway - they seem to have gotten away :)

also, I KNOW al Jazeera is awesome but this coverage is really, truly blowing USA away

6.1 and 6.3 aftershocks a little closer to Tokyo.

some different video
http://www.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/

Can't wait to find out who Pat Robertson blames this on.

14 structures reported on fire in Tokyo due to earthquake.

According to FB friends, the U.S. NWS is issuing tsunami watches for the Oregon & Washington State coasts, with the wave expected to hit in about 7.5 hours

Nick Momus reports only a 'slight lurch' in Osaka.

godzilla is such an asshole

complimentary map:

http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/2011/03/11/lhvpd9/01/ttvulhvpd9-01.jpg

to quote dr samuel beckett: "oh....boy"

i just heard they're evacuating tokyo??

in case anyone is wondering, grady is not in hawaii

unless they grounded flights w/in the past few hours

he must have meant buildings in tokyo

My coworkers in Tokyo are being sent home early (which is a really big deal!). No real damage there, most of the damage you see is in low-lying reclaimed land on the coast of Miyagi near Sendai.

this footage of the waves wiping out towns is so brutal

oil refinery fire is looking more and more terrifying

I'm DJing a birthday party and watching al jazeera on my iPhone. This is really conflicting.

many xposts thanks AA for reassurance abt Australia/tsunami... stuff like this just wigs me right out

I'm in Tokyo, I don't think they're evacuating the city. At least I hope not...

if that wave keeps going it's our turn in 10 hours

hang tight lj

They can't evacuate Tokyo, it's far too big, where would everyone go?

^^^was actually going to post that sentiment

Haha guess I should have flown out of Hawaii today instead of tomorrow

:/

I've seen the footage of that initial debris wave twenty times now and it still blows my mind every single time.

Just saw it. Unbelievable.

Whoohoo sirens

Not going to hit here until 3 am, but I think they are trying to get peeps to go look at the news

np veg (keep ignoring those warnings, I'm getting consistent information here from two major sources that aus is safe)

<3

Secondary Al Jazeera stream

http://www.youtube.com/aljazeeraenglish

gahhh awful. already heard from my japanese colleagues and they are all fine thank god

Hawaii's coast is being evacuted??

No it isn't. I say that as a dude currently 30 yards from the coast on Maui.

So apparently this is the 7th most powerful quake in recorded history, and the only one of the 7 to strike near a populated area.

That can't be good.

The Isle of Man is forecasted to have 10" waves hitting her coasts shortly. Good luck Angland.

We're being told some low-lying areas of Hawaii are being evacuated, but I don't know enough about Hawaiian geography/topology to make any sort of call on that.

fuckkkk not the kind of thing you ever want to wake up to. footage is unbelievable/awful - floating fires in residential areas, horror as you see cars getting swept away live

So apparently this is the 7th most powerful quake in recorded history, and the only one of the 7 to strike near a populated area.

That can't be good.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, March 11, 2011 3:46 AM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark

the chile earthquake from last yr?

I'm just going by what the guy on Al Jazeera is saying.

sometimes footage looks not so bad until you catch sight of a house or something and suddenly realise the scale. awful.

6 deaths being reported (not counting the 2 deaths from the earthquake 2 days ago).

Hawaii local news also reporting this is larger than the chile one fyi

Chile was 8.8 it seems, and this is 8.9.

That might not seem like a big difference, but it is.

Each 0.1 escalation is x100 right?

tsunami watch for washington and oregon coasts

LA Times says it's the world's fifth largest since 1900, according to USGS

Watching the Busena Terrace webcam (north shore of Okinawa) to get a sense of how large the tsunami will be across the Pacific. ETA in 12 minutes.

Are you kiddng? Some caller just "baba booey'ed" the MSNBC coverage.

death toll up to 19 according to al jazeera according to "japanese media"

Hawaii's Department of Emergency Management issues tsunami refuge locations

And Google updates its Person Finder webapp, again: http://japan.person-finder.appspot.com/?lang=en

Huh. We're in the 4th floor and they might be moving us up to the 6th floor which is kinda o_O

places like Tuvalu & Vanuatu could be in serious trouble :(

footage of that japanese newsroom, there's a moment where the intern-lookin' boy shifts his attention from his keyboard, boss gives him the pointy finger of doom and he returns to frantic typing

this is as the newsroom is shaking like a 70s disco

Guy on Japanese TV says this was 180 times the strength of the Kobe earthquake

There's been no discernable wave at 3 webcams around Okinawa (expected arrival at 0912Z), so it seems most of the energy was directed towards the Honshu shore and central Pacific, rather than towards the Philipines/South China Sea...

this video is nuts (starts around 1 min mark)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwb_1U5yfBY

also at the end there's some amateur footage that gives you an idea of how fast the water is actually moving

That's like having whitewater rapids coming AT you.

death toll up to 19 according to al jazeera according to "japanese media"

this seems surprisingly low - testament to japanese earthquake prep and building regulations, i guess?

Um.

http://twitter.com/adriennemong/status/46140399038894080

it looks so fucked up that i can't see them having a real death toll for some time. i *think* death tolls mean the bodies are accounted for so.

A very basic description of said plant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_I_Nuclear_Power_Plant

^^^this is true, as we have recently seen in christchurch xpost

okay that nuclear plant shit is too scary not gonna think about that at all thanks

Oh man, I just watched that video on the guardian homepage and I just want to puke.

http://twitpic.com/48edb1

Fuck fuck fuck, what a disaster. Hope everyone with friends or relatives in Japan is okay.

xpost

holy shit!!!

Also I really want that nuclear power tweet to be bullshit but I fear otherwise.

Pic upthread is this:

"A large fire erupted at the Cosmo oil refinery in Ichihara city in Chiba prefecture near Tokyo and was burning out of control with 100-foot (30 meter) -high flames whipping into the sky."

The coolant malfunction just means it will take weeks/months before Fukushima can restart. The control rods already have the core shut down.

Related:

Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant - If we can re-install power for the cooling system within 8 hours, it will be ok.

So basically, ease back a bit for now.

thanking u sanpuku

Ha no cel service whatsoever here but the hotel wifi is strong and unrelenting so hi ilx

hey jjj, apparently 'threads' is on google video

(hoping gallows humour isn't amiss here...in all srsness please stay safe)

Hahaha

I think we will be hosting a grip of peeps from the bottom 3 floors here in a bit

...you all grip onto each other and pray?

if there's one thing worse than a tsunami it's predictive text

Oh you adorable limey

if there's one thing worse than predictive text it's not consulting urbandictionary before posting

See I'm from the streets so I know what's up

the streets, in a few hours

Btw if I die I am happy to go out quoting "I ain't the one"

Look it up lj

ice cube or skynyrd?

aha, the one you quoted then

Best song to ever utilize poop-butt btw

skynyrd would be kinda incongruous w/ yr marital situation, was o_Oing until i looked further down the page

Ha you might want to listen to the nwa before you give me any marital cred tbh

take care jj + k

deej, i really hope your sister is fine and that you hear from her soon, i have recently been through the same horrible wait to hesr from my sister who was in christchurch so you have my full empathy.

<3

a friend of mine has been trying to get through to his sister in osaka - when he finally did so, her response was "what earthquake?"

lol how embarrassing

Yeah, Nick's in Osaka and they had a few shaky tremors but nothing major - he said the holy-fucking did not commence until he tuned into the Al J feed.. Japan is incredibly well-prepared for seismic activity; good luck Pacific.

Via Elvis T:

http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/2011/03/11/lhvpd9/energylhvpd9-04.jpg

Uh that looks bad for me

Ok to be fair that is my reaction with a totally lunkheaded grasp on geography so I am glad to be wrong here

hawaii is directly in line with the projected path of the biggest eastward waves

You can see a little blue dot that's supposed to be Hawaii.

going to bed, the very best of luck deej's sister and jjj

What side of the island are you on jjj?

Northwest side. Whoops.

Tbf in all seriousness i am in a tall concrete/steel structure (which is inconveniently close to the shore which sucks atm but) worst case we get stuck for a day or two - bathtub is full of water etc so not really worried. Still fucking freaky tho, not going to lie.

Ring-side seats for this thing then, but I guess there's all the other islands to your northwest that will take the worst of it.

Yeah we're pretty much in that wedge between Molokai and lanai, so I don't know how that works

FWIW, Wake Island (sort of on the same path) only saw 0.39M / 1.3FT.

Barely worth getting your board out, but good luck anyhow jjj!

Uh according to Hawaii news midway island just reported 4 foot swell

kind of really glad facebook exists-- one of my friends in japan who was unaccounted for doesn't have internet at home so I thought I'd have to wait and worry for the next day or so, but her sister (in uk) posted on someone else's comment thread that she's okay.

So basically no one knows anything. On the not awesome side, the hotel isnt allowing the lower floors to bring any luggage or bags with them, just prescription medication

Obv an xpost

Same as me c major, one of my oldest friends from Dublin is in Sendai, he's fine tho.

Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' as attempts to cool reactor at northern plant are 'not going as planned' - official via NHK

Really not feeling good about this.

!!!!

well, shit

Thinking of you Jjusten.

Ok so apparently the second wave at midway was 8 feet

Tbf all of this would be much more useful info if I was not a shitheel from the middle of a continent.

I logged on to my work email today and saw that one of my colleagues in our Tokyo office had sent an email at 11:38pm ET. In almost comically stereotypical fashion, it informed us that they had email and network access in the office, but might have difficulty at work due to continuing aftershocks. This was followed about 10 minutes later by our SF-based VP of Operations informing the company that Tokyo was closed for at least the weekend.

Hey jjjusten - keep us updated when u can and look after yrself. Sending out anti-tsunami mindwaves now.

Can't find anything else on this?!

[6:41 a.m. ET, 8:41 p.m. Tokyo] CNN International, citing Reuters news service, is reporting a ship with 100 people aboard has been swept away by the tsunami off Japan.

It must be so chaotic out there that it's virtually impossible to corroborate anything.

hawaii has been given a playful tickle in the form of a 4.5 earthquake. nature, you coquette

Good luck, JJ.

Holy fucking crap I've been out all night and I just got txted by N on the way home and what the fuck woah.

Good luck JJ, please let us know you're ok when it's passed.

stay dry, y'all

jjj, you are going to video this shit, right? also, stay safe big man.

waves hitting hawaii about now fwiw

6 ft wave at the speed of an airplane is prediction they were giving a bit ago for HI.

terrifying, apocalyptic footage on that al jazeera news page, jesus.

Holy shit

If you want surreally mellow coverage:
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/Global/category.asp?C=176904

apparently the waves at hawaii were smaller than forecast

basically japan has borne the vast majority of any brunt

My parents were just landing in Tokyo (after a local trip). They are fine. In a cab going home. This is so fucking surreal. Don't think I am going to Japan this year with the kids. DOn't feel like going ever again. I hope they decide to come back home but I doubt it.

1332: Between 200 and 300 bodies have been found on a beach near Sendai, the semi-official Jiji Press news agency is reporting.

Sort of understandable at the moment but this is a once-in-hundreds-of-years type occurrance and the country will rebound. It'd be sad to write off going back for good.

(xpost fucking hell that's grim)

hey nat, haven't heard from you in a while. glad your parents are okay, stay strong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU8zyscGWe4&feature=player_embedded#at=49

On the mellow Hawaii news, they're saying calm, calm, calm, no biggie, and a minute ago the whole coral reef on Diamond Head beach was exposed, the ocean inhaling.

Feeling quite sick after reading about the bodies being found in Sendai.

my dad on the big island (just inland enough) watching the waikiki webcam, after at least two big-deal false-alarms in my lifetime: "oh. something's actually happening." stay dry, everyone on the pacific.

stay safe out there jjj; posi thoughts out to all ilxors affected

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The official Kyodo news agency is reporting that about 88,000 people are missing.

Jesus, that number is hard to even process.

yea g-damn

This stream http://www.ustream.tv/channel/foxtokimekitonight is showing what I'm guessing from other reports is the waterfront at Sendai completely ablaze. Just terrifying.

Really hoping that number is just because the phones are jammed to hell and it's impossible to contact anyone.

sending good thoughts to Hawaii and jjj...

ugh just watched some of the footage. horrible. really hope they get this nuclear situation under control.

xxxpost

That footage is astonishing, I thought it was a lava flow at first.

ugh CNN coverage is the worst...morning "A" team as bad as late night "D" team

al jazeera is killing every news organisation out there atm

heard from my sister. shes stuck in the city but ok

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12709856

This is pretty terrifying looking as well. Can't work out where if anywhere the land's supposed to begin.

Al j reporting that the tsunami is reaching Hawaii about now.

Big Picture on the quake, great as usual http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/03/earthquake-in-japan/100022/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/indonesia-volcano-erupts-2239167.html

paging jjj

the world is ending

The second picture on Stet's link, with the couple holding each other as the ceiling collapses, is terrifyingly intimate compared to everything else we're seeing.

Just made the mistake of looking up photos of Sendai on Flickr :(

watching the debris wave stuff makes me feel dehumanized, like we are all just ants

That was my thought exactly - just like water washing away an ants nest. So horrible to see those cars driving around looking for a way out.

holy shit

hope jjj and fuck as many people as possible can survive and be safe.

It makes me feel *very* human, in a rightful-place-of-puny-human kind of way. Also that wierd sense of an emotional connection to the whole human race that extraodinary disasters bring on.

Yup, please to be no more massive bumps in the deathcount.

hope jjj and fuck as many people as possible can survive and be safe.

nothing about this sentence scans appropriately to me

Hawaii was hit by a 1-meter (39-inch) wave, according to scientists at the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, which wasn’t anticipating major damage.

fuck*,* as many people as possible

It makes me feel *very* human, in a rightful-place-of-puny-human kind of way. Also that wierd sense of an emotional connection to the whole human race that extraodinary disasters bring on.

yes, both these ring v true w/me

Big Picture-type gallery @ DM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1365318/Japan-earthquake-tsunami-The-moment-mother-nature-engulfed-nation.html

when this video started I was like, well that doesn't look too bad, just a little swell, then after 1:15 it's like omg and then it just keeps going and going and going

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTwnxVIlWss

like my mind is having a difficult time processing the immensity of something that renders houses and cars as just so much detritus like what you find in the strainer after washing the dishes

Holy shit are those burning buildings actually moving with the wave? Fucking hell.

The scale of all these images is mind bending. The gas fire one as well as the waves.

That video is unbelievable. It's like humanity and all it's works are just nothing, dear god....

You know humanity will ride this one out though. There are still people posting in the Pitchfork thread, so...

Do we know what's happening on the ground now? I'm confused with the chronology of these. Is the wave still battering the coast? Are there rescue operations happening yet?

It's night in Japan so any daytime shots at this point are old. The waves should have subsided unless there's been significant aftershocks and doubtless major rescue work is happening -- as has been noted, Japan's all too familiar with both earthquakes and tsunamis.

Tsunami waves are hitting California right now, the coast down near where I'm at is due to receive them in about five minutes.

yeah i was gonna say - haven't heard any news from hawaii and the pacific islands during the day so...i hope no news is good news?

The main Hawaii newspaper has some reports:

http://www.staradvertiser.com/

Sounds like there's been some flooding but nothing huge, at least not yet.

http://media.ohio.com/images/efbd96b8a53d3705e70e6a7067007ac5.jpg

These dudes seem remarkably casual about it.

Hawaii was hit by a 1-meter (39-inch) wave, according to scientists at the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, which wasn’t anticipating major damage.

― taco al pastorius (Steve Shasta), Friday, March 11, 2011 8:21 AM (33 minutes ago)

Hawaii was hit by a 1-meter (39-inch) wave, according to scientists at the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, which wasn’t anticipating major damage.

― taco al pastorius (Steve Shasta), Friday, March 11, 2011 8:21 AM (33 minutes ago)
Hawaii was hit by a 1-meter (39-inch) wave, according to scientists at the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, which wasn’t anticipating major damage.

― taco al pastorius (Steve Shasta), Friday, March 11, 2011 8:21 AM (33 minutes ago)

Hawaii was hit by a 1-meter (39-inch) wave, according to scientists at the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, which wasn’t anticipating major damage.

― taco al pastorius (Steve Shasta), Friday, March 11, 2011 8:21 AM (33 minutes ago)
Hawaii was hit by a 1-meter (39-inch) wave, according to scientists at the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, which wasn’t anticipating major damage.

― taco al pastorius (Steve Shasta), Friday, March 11, 2011 8:21 AM (33 minutes ago)
Hawaii was hit by a 1-meter (39-inch) wave, according to scientists at the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, which wasn’t anticipating major damage.

― taco al pastorius (Steve Shasta), Friday, March 11, 2011 8:21 AM (33 minutes ago)
Hawaii was hit by a 1-meter (39-inch) wave, according to scientists at the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, which wasn’t anticipating major damage.

― taco al pastorius (Steve Shasta), Friday, March 11, 2011 8:21 AM (33 minutes ago)
Hawaii was hit by a 1-meter (39-inch) wave, according to scientists at the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, which wasn’t anticipating major damage.

― taco al pastorius (Steve Shasta), Friday, March 11, 2011 8:21 AM (33 minutes ago)
Hawaii was hit by a 1-meter (39-inch) wave, according to scientists at the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, which wasn’t anticipating major damage.

― taco al pastorius (Steve Shasta), Friday, March 11, 2011 8:21 AM (33 minutes ago)
Hawaii was hit by a 1-meter (39-inch) wave, according to scientists at the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, which wasn’t anticipating major damage.

― taco al pastorius (Steve Shasta), Friday, March 11, 2011 8:21 AM (33 minutes ago)
Hawaii was hit by a 1-meter (39-inch) wave, according to scientists at the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, which wasn’t anticipating major damage.

― taco al pastorius (Steve Shasta), Friday, March 11, 2011 8:21 AM (33 minutes ago)
Hawaii was hit by a 1-meter (39-inch) wave, according to scientists at the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, which wasn’t anticipating major damage.

― taco al pastorius (Steve Shasta), Friday, March 11, 2011 8:21 AM (33 minutes ago)
Hawaii was hit by a 1-meter (39-inch) wave, according to scientists at the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, which wasn’t anticipating major damage.

― taco al pastorius (Steve Shasta), Friday, March 11, 2011 8:21 AM (33 minutes ago)

I've been personally hit by a 39 inch wave, wasn't a big deal tbh

Local news has vid of tsunami waves hitting the Oregon coast, which at this point merely appear to be the tide rolling in

NHK reporting 95 people dead. Officials bracing for deathtoll equalling the Kobe earthquake (~6k iirc), there are still numerous people missing/MIA.

Parents back home. Skyped. Chatted. They are fine. Yay.

BBCBreaking BBC Breaking News
#Tokyo Electric Power Co: pressure inside reactor at its Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear plant rising; risk of radiation leak, from Reuters

D:

So that story about 300 bodies on the beach was bullshit then?

This is really horrible. Hoping all ilx0rs and their loved ones are okay.

1708: Nuclear physicist Dr Walt Patterson tells the BBC it sounds like there is a "serious problem" at the Fukushima-Daiichi plant. "It's the sort of thing that nuclear engineers have nightmares about," he says. "If it is not resolved in the next few hours it will get serious. If the core is uncovered, then those rods at the top may get hot enough to melt themselves."

he US has sent emergency supplies of coolant to a Japanese nuclear plant affected by the massive earthquake, Hillary Clinton has revealed.

"We just had our Air Force assets in Japan transport some really important coolant to one of the nuclear plants," the US secretary of state said in Washington DC.

"Japan is very reliant on nuclear power and they have very high engineering standards but one of their plants came under a lot of stress with the earthquake and didn't have enough coolant."

...how much is enough to start with?

Fukushima Nuclear Reactor situation "under control", "precautionary measure":
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/12/world/asia/12nuclear.html

So that story about 300 bodies on the beach was bullshit then?

― Matt DC, Friday, March 11, 2011 9:09 AM (1 minute ago)

What was the source on that? Maybe even if they did locate bodies and haven't ID'd them, than they may not have entered the official death toll yet?

Meanwhile in the Daily Mail it is all the fault of the what astrologers are calling the 'supermoon' o_O:

http://t.co/qOfhmPH

So that story about 300 bodies on the beach was bullshit then?
― Matt DC, Friday, March 11, 2011 9:09 AM (1 minute ago)

What was the source on that? Maybe even if they did locate bodies and haven't ID'd them, than they may not have entered the official death toll yet?

It's the current banner over the BBC coverage.

http://grab.by/9q8a

http://grab.by/9q8c

BBC's report:

"The death toll is unclear, but police say 200 to 300 bodies have been found in the port city of Sendai.

At least 90 other people are reported to have died, and many more are unaccounted for."

http://grab.by/9q8o

WOAH

What's that one from?

caek's atlantic link i think -- either way it's 'worth seeing' (not sure how to phrase that)

http://grab.by/9q8D

im getting these all from http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/gallery/2011/03/record-89-magnitude-earthquake-rocks-japan-unleashes-tsunami.php

Yeah just found same link somewhere else and am looking now. Insane.

Those seriously look like matchbox cars and toy planes. :(

Cars and airplanes swept by a tsunami are pictured among debris at Sendai Airport, northeastern Japan March 11, 2011. There were several strong aftershocks and a warning of a 10-meter tsunami following the quake, which also caused buildings to shake violently in the capital Tokyo. (REUTERS/KYODO) #

apparently one of the bullet trains is missing?

Just finished watching the 15 minute helicopter video linked above. The most apocalyptic thing I have ever seen. Jesus, the cars, trying to drive away from it! And right at the end, the people gathered on a rooftop as it hits... the waves are not even waves of water anymore, they're a solid mass of trucks buildings and debris...

The cars trying to escape look like they're driving so slowly-- which I assume means that, rather, the waves are going very fast...

i repeat

holy shit

this one is just like

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/jpq03111/s_j04_RTR2JQXI.jpg

via in focus http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/03/earthquake-in-japan/100022

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/jpq03111/s_j12_11116542.jpg

this just makes me want to cry

can you imagine being in one of those houses

I don't even want to think about that.

I sat up watching the live footage til 1am...the images are just... had the worst night's sleep of recent memory, like I think I was just lying in bed with my eyes open in shock for like 2 hours, because I couldn't stop seeing the waves of moving debris
and knowing that 'debris' included people and, yeah...and just talking about 'wah I coudn't sleep' makes me sound like an asshole bc there's a whole population of people homeless injured etc jesus

I haven't checked back into the newsfeed fully...what's the word on the crazy oil refinery fire? last I saw it was exploding in huge flaming mushroom clouds

Lots grim shots here
http://totallycoolpix.com/2011/03/japan-hit-by-massive-earthquake-and-tsunami/

http://totallycoolpix.com

^^ uhhhh

this just makes me want to cry

For real. The thought of folks like me caught up in that with their kids is just too much.

Lucky office workers here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12713266

apparently one of the bullet trains is missing?

― max, Friday, March 11, 2011 9:22 AM (10 minutes ago)

source? no mentions on NHK/Kyodo in english or japanese. just that service is halted.

(service is halted to NE Honshu that is).

the bullet train thing is mentioned here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1365229/Japan-earthquake-tsunami-Fears-massive-death-toll.html

yeah, that's the only source I saw in google news search... and as soon as I was Daily Mail, I figured it was false.

daily mail is just the top source dummies

According to East Japan Railway, 14 bullet trains were between stations with passengers still aboard, after the quake triggered emergency safety systems. The whereabouts of at least one train near the coast in Miyagi prefecture was unknown late Friday, Kyodo News said.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-japan-quake-20110311,0,1950058.story

There is nothing (as of right now) anywhere on the Kyodo site referencing a missing bullet train fwiw.

Nothing here either:
http://www.google.co.jp/search?q=新幹線&hl=ja&biw=1279&prmd=ivnsu&source=univ&tbs=nws:1&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=jWF6TYnSFpPrrAH725ncBQ&ved=0CEQQqAI

maybe the LA Times and the Daily Mail have a scoop?

or maybe kyodo news reported something and then took it back?

or maybe they reported it on air and not on their website?

so many possibilities, really

maybe la times has the train now

it's even possible that not every bad thing that has happened has been reported... but idk this is a slightly distasteful pissing contest that steve has won

maybe la times has the train now

guilty lol

http://totallycoolpix.com

^^ uhhhh

how gross is it that they watermarked all the pictures, too. wonder how many years these will be floating around with "totallycoolpix" on them? hope they get their asses sued for putting their logo on other people's pictures.

and their design is a total rip off of the big picture/in focus

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/quake1/bp25.jpg

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/quake1/bp36.jpg

entire morning's local news coverage in Northern California has been about "oh the tsunami that is going to roll in" (1 ft high wave at low tide) "oh dear" and almost zero on Japan. Thanks for reinforcing the stereotype of self-involved, naval-gazing, myopic californians. "Disaster thousands of miles away? HOW IT AFFECTS US".

'local news'

that's an entirely natural thing in a regional news source tbf

These pictures are horrifying

Faultline in that photo matching up exactly with the highway divider line is O_O

have been avoiding the local coverage...not sure that I need a fix of dudes with umbrellas standing on beaches telling me nothing is happening

i think it must have to do with how the road is built, since it does it on the other side by the guard rail too

In case people missed the bump
on the other thread, everything is fine on my end.

whew!

Great news.

Awesome (in the terrible sense) how that 15-minute video is in real time. Hard to comprehend what happened in any single minute of that video.

Thinking of Annie Dillard's meditation on natural disasters with incomprehensible damage, For The Time Being.

Awesome and terrible are both words whose original meanings are all too applicable to this...

BreakingNews Breaking News
Fukushima update: Japanese authorities will release radioactive vapor to ease pressure at nuclear reactor - AP
11 minutes ago

UH RELEASE RADIOACTIVE VAPOR

So, err, got an uncle + his family living in Sendai who are uncontactable atm. Trying to focus on the positives i.e. my uncle there is a potter so potential boom times ahead, right.

oh jesus I can't imagine how stressful that must be. :/

oh no, dude...I can't even imagine

hugs?

From The Weather Channel twitter:
From the Times-Standard in Eureka, Calif. Harbor has been destroyed in Crescent City, 35 boats crushed and harbor has major damage.

The US air force is flying additional barrels of deuterium depleted light water to Fukushima, but evidently if you have a meltdown in progress Borax powder dissolved in water makes a very effective neutron absorber. News you can use. Gravity pumped Borax is a regular feature of more recent boiling water reactors.

It's weird...I mean, I spent the day just kinda assuming everything was ok cos one cousin in Tokyo popped up on facebook soon after. Then I rang my dad and he says that obv they can't get through to call my uncle and the cousin hasn't said any more abt it so it's all a bit hoping for the best. Telling myself that most ppl in the area are fine so prob nothing to worry about.

xxp thanks guys. Means a lot for a new ilxor.

Crescent City has a bad history with tsunamis. After the 1964 Alaska earthquake:

http://www.drgeorgepc.com/tsu64CrescentCity.gif

Miniscule news, but: in CA, damage in Crescent City and Santa Cruz.

I have a box of Borax under my sink, can I help?

Tokyo Broadcasting System (TBS) reporting that at least 200 people have died and another 398 are missing.

Crescent City Harbor is about the size of my flat:
http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safari&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF8&q=harbor&fb=1&gl=us&t=h&sll=41.748431,-124.184711&sspn=0.004282,0.009634&rq=1&ev=zi&split=1&radius=0.3&hq=harbor&hnear=&ll=41.748303,-124.18382&spn=0.004282,0.009634&z=17

"All 36 boats in the harbor were damaged".... uhhhhh ok.

golf channel is providing in-depth coverage of the mental states of japanese touring pros

which there's nothing wrong with, i guess, it's just really weird

balkanization_of_cable.xls

best wishes oppet

Hope you get good news soon, oppet

echoing the well wishes of everyone else, oppet

What they all said, oppet. I pretty much have nothing to say but HOLY FUCKING SHIT at it all, but my heart and thoughts and prayers going out to anyone who needs them right now.

local Sacto news getting reports from CHP in Crescent City that roads have been flooded and some homes damaged

Mr Veg says Int3l employees in Japan are putting up photos of the Tsukuba office, stories of employees walking 2.5 hours home after the quake, cell phones out but wifi firmly in place...photos from the office the place has water pouring in from the ceiling, all over the floor, pretty trashed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQTJy5mWejA&feature=player_embedded#at=12

not sure if this has been posted

looks like edited version of the 15 minute one above

still terrifying + unfathomable

hope your uncle's ok oppet

Video/photos from Crescent City here: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/03/11/tsunami-watch-for-california-coast-after-big-japan-quake/

at 2:12 in that video-- the end of all things, my god. A wave of broken scrambled civilization eats everything

The Triplicate (NoCal newssite) is down/overwhelmed but coming through occasionally:
http://www.triplicate.com/

i havent heard what the evacuation situation was like - there are few moving cars in that video but besides that it seems like people were able to get out - in comparable images from the 04 indian ocean tsunami there are all sorts of people running and on balconies and roofs - tho obv those couldve just been from more densely populated areas tho

Some more news sites for infovores:
http://www.philippinenews.com/
http://www.rnzi.com/index.php (Radio New Zealand international - shortwave radio network for South Pacific islands)

One minor, trivial bit of good news amidst all this:

http://icanhascheezburger.com/2011/03/11/funny-pictures-japan-tsunami-maru-safe/

At least Maru the cat is safe. There's a photo of him playing in his emergency cat transfer pack his owner readied just in case.

icey if you watch the 15 minute one there are a lot of moving cars in the path of the oncoming wave, the camera doesn't linger on it but it doesn't look like that area was completely evacuated, ppl are still driving on roads that seconds later are getting flooded

what makes that footage so crazy is the birdseye view, so you get a sense of scale of the destruction but not a sense of where humans are in relation to it, most of the footage from 2004 I've seen was on-the-ground stuff so you can actually see the people fleeing

seeing ground footage from sendai would not be good methinks

i specifically mentioned the cars!

Flickr group: http://www.flickr.com/groups/japanearthquake2011/pool/

yeah i really want to know what happened to the dozen or so ppl on the rooftop of the large building in the last seconds of the 15 minute video, it ends as the wave approaches them

Updated tsunami amplitude map

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef014e5fcc1a75970c-800wi

nature, man

Huge aftershocks all night. 6.6 was the biggest so far.

It looks like Japan is vomiting blood in that image.

Indonesia volcano erupts, spews lava and gas

JAKARTA, Indonesia – One of Indonesia's most active volcanos has erupted, sending lava and searing gas clouds tumbling down its slopes.
Volcanology official Agus Budianto said Friday that authorities were still trying to evacuate residents living along the slopes of Mount Karangetang.
There were no immediate reports of injuries or serious damage.

The 5,853-foot (1,784-meter) mountain is located on Siau, part of the Sulawesi island chain. It last erupted in August, killing four people.

Indonesia, the world's largest archipelago, is located on the so-called Pacific "Ring of Fire," an arc of volcanos and fault lines encircling the Pacific Basin.
The eruption happened hours after a massive earthquake in Japan that triggered a Pacific-wide tsunami.

from twitter

Anyone stuck in Tokyo DM me for a place to spend the night．Sumiyoshi- Kai will provide food & shelter.

I find it strange that there aren't more than a few different videos and photo albums of this. Not complaining, I just thought coming from Japan there would be way more amateur videos documenting it.

not sure if this was posted, real time tweets on google maps
http://www.mibazaar.com/japan.html

the telco network is fucked! xp

some ground footage, weird to see people standing on a bridge in this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc_bbFdJfz0

ground level footage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xOzYRdEPBE

Ok I haven't seen that one yet. Thats nuts.

cripes, its like watching an invisible hand sweeping away legos.

from sendai harbor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSMRiike0Hg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Cosmo_Oil_explosion_20110311.png

That newscaster in ice cr?m's clip could be reading the stock market ticker.

the worst bit of that video is the car with windscreen wipers and indicator lights on

totally. and the person walking their bike slowly up the road, seemingly unaware of the torrent coming their way. p upsetting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhJzdtzl6KY

A building in downtown Tokyo swaying and flexing with the earthquake.

tuned mass damper, y'all

always really impressed how thousands of tons concrete and steel can flex like cedars in a strong wind

Tsunami hitting the SF (East) Bay:
http://www.berkeleyside.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Tsunami.jpg

the world is pretty amazing

my company's office in tokyo had to relocate last year because they were in an old non-earthquake-certified bldg, they were forced to move by law, japan takes that stuff pretty seriously

with good reason I guess

can you imagine what itd be like if an 8.9 hit any other city?

Shit just got serious.
http://twitter.com/#!/EW/status/46277336311660545

yeah really, if it was going to hit somewhere, japan is prolly most well-prepared for it

xp

can you imagine what itd be like if an 8.9 hit any other city?

― max, Friday, March 11, 2011 4:21 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

chiles was an 8.8

ugh, do you have a desire to hate humanity? then click here

http://youropenbook.org/?q=pearl+harbor&gender=any

i don't get why ppl always post shit like this in these threads

I look at Shasta's East Bay picture and think about that wave beginning in daylight, going through night, and then coming back into the dawn of the same day again.

chiles was an 8.8

― ice cr?m, Friday, March 11, 2011 4:36 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

right but it didnt hit as close to major urban areas

"very cool link that i appreciated"

well neither of them registered nearly 8.8 in any major urban areas xp

unless you consider under the ocean a major urban area

good i was hoping to get into another fight on this thread

i feel like maybe the only thing worse than ppl that use national or international tragedies to remind us that they're racist is people that use national or international tragedies to remind us that other ppl are racist

anyway

haha i "like" reading those facebook things, its like rubbernecking a car accident

max maybe u should consider stopping making false claims, also posting man boob videos

It's relevant. Dunno what you're up in arms about.

http://grab.by/9qrl

ha this guy is top notch

Kyodo news agency is reporting that four commuter trains are still unaccounted for in the Miyagi and Iwate prefectures, the coastal area of northeastern Japan that were hardest hit by the tsunami.

I think my favourite method of earthquake-proofing is this unlikely tale:

Slosh tank
A slosh tank is a large tank of fluid placed on an upper floor. During a seismic event, the fluid in this tank will slosh back and forth, but is directed by baffles - partitions that prevent the tank itself becoming resonant; through its mass the water may change or counter the resonant period of the building. Additional kinetic energy can be converted to heat by the baffles and is dissipated through the water - any temperature rise will be insignificant.

SURELY NOT?

j0rdan I feel like maybe you could just stfu and sb me if it bothers you so much

would it be possible for ppl to keep their sandy vadges out of the japan earthquake thread thx

welp everyones fighting the emergency much be over

slosh tank = tuned mass damper!!!

oh wait

Breaking News
Japan says radiation levels surges outside nuclearplant, expands area subject to evacuation - AP
5 minutes ago

this is insane

"damn you will gibson!!"

aftermath looks pretty devastated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfY1w0x744s

holy shit

Random House Tower has not one but two slosh tanks. Or as "fluid tuned mass dampers", with 265,000 and 379,000 liters of water each.

who else keeps thinking of el-p

tbh he's the only reason i know what a tuned mass damper is to begin with

they're fukkin rad, i'd rap about em

glad i got off the el-p train before he started going on abt earthquake preparedness - anyway this guy makes some good points imo

http://grab.by/9qtk

i mean it might not be the best time but someone has to mention all them nuclear threats

serious guilty LOLs at these complete fucktards

it's like these dudes totally forget that we obliterated not one, but two of japan's cities entirely.

who else keeps thinking of el-p

― max, Friday, March 11, 2011 4:04 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

tbh he's the only reason i know what a tuned mass damper is to begin with

― ullr saves (gbx), Friday, March 11, 2011 4:05 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol this is exactly what went thru my mind

thoughts anyone???

errrrr just to clarify (although I really hope clarification is unnecessary and I'm just begin overly cautious) I meant the ppl in the openbook thing

btw youropenbook is a valuable service but it needs to remove any status that link to it, after a while it just ends up being a lot of statuses with people being like "check out these fuckos youropenbook.com=search?htmlpearl harber.edu"

yeah, noticed that

it appears these FB morons are unaware of post-Pearl Harbor retaliations...you know, of the ATOMIC variety.

fuck you and your stupid fucking karma, buddy. they got karma up the yin yang, and radiation poisoning to boot, 65 fucking years ago.

they shouldn't make me mad but someone as naturally IA as myself simply can't help it

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/741/screenshot20110311at421.png

deej made that joke in the first 50 posts of this thread

Nope, pretty sure that Ashley Lesnick was the only person on the earth who thought that one up today.

the contrast w/the profile pics really gets me, like one w/a dog, another w/optimus prime looking all contemplative

morons can be deceptively pleasant-seeming

karmas a bitch, affleck

http://grab.by/9qu6

i liked my phrasing better

http://grab.by/9qtk

http://www.theonion.com/articles/why-do-all-these-homosexuals-keep-sucking-my-cock,11150/

fwiw i think having a little sister w/in miles of impact who i couldnt get in touch w/ gives me the right to gallows humor fuck yall

has anyone posted about anime

has anyone in this thread on the internet about a horrible natural disaster in japan posted about anime

Steve Fuller They say dogs can sense when an earthquake is coming....shame the japs munched them all aint it ...
11 minutes ago

Same people who said France owed America aid in Iraq because America saved them in WW2. They also forgot about the American Revolution France played a big part in? That always bothered me, but this is even more oblivious and stupid.

was kinda weird watching local news coverage at lunchtime of the Crescent City & Santa Cruz surges: rushing water and some smooshed up boats, camera zooming in on A piece of debris...vs all the Japanese tsunami footage of houses, boats, busses and cars demolishing cities and towns

Not that it means any more or any less, but I wonder if these Facebook geniuses consider 40,000 American troops collateral damage to this tsunami.

apparently all of these people who care about crescent city really don't remember pearl harbor very well

I'm sure if a tiny wave reaches the UK, it'll be the Nazi's fault. Lots of people out there ready to hate and joke.
Read a post today somewhere "lots of fish food, remember the whales"

how much of this comes down to ppl just not knowing shit about japan except that

waht im wondering can people really remember or 'never forget' things that happened before they were born, thoughts anyone???

well, I can never forget slavery, so yes

Dumbers gonna dumb.

Last month when my city was paralyzed by eight inches of snow, I said to a co-worker, "This is why the Yankees won the war, you know." and he kinda got mad about it.

Thought it was the American way to "never forget"
Not my opinion, just saying what i've read.

haha PP

xxp he probably thought you were talking about the baseball team

That first commenter, good god...

1. Neck Tattoo
2. Pit Bull
3. Can't spell

Send this fuck to the glue factory already.

we still remember the fukkin alamo for christ's sake

grandfather was a POW in Thailand during WWII...byproduct of that is that my mum can go from 0 to Racist in the blink of an eye if you even mention Japan. Saw a lot of it growing up...uncles on both sides of my family were apparently members of the League of Rights, racist as all get out.

and in my experience the most racist people I have come across are the ones who have rarely, if ever crossed paths with any of the nationalities they are so sworn to hate.

anyway, kinda off topic, sorry for derail

yo not_goodwin those are elephants, but I can see why you would get the two confused

especially if it was a picture book

deej when I think of the alamo I think of a huge mustache, I don't really know what's there to remember

Also maybe we create a separate thread for idiots-react-to-quake LOLs since real time shit is far from over...

and in my experience the most racist people I have come across are the ones who have rarely, if ever crossed paths with any of the nationalities they are so sworn to hate

OTM

waht im wondering can people really remember or 'never forget' things that happened before they were born, thoughts anyone???

― ice cr?m, Friday, March 11, 2011 5:35 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well, I can never forget slavery, so yes

― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Friday, March 11, 2011 5:36 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah im not saying people shouldnt care abt history or find it meaningful but all these people literally being 'i remember pearl harbor' on facebook - its like no you dont, someone told you abt pearl harbor - the tendency to want to personalize events that happened when one didnt even exists is interesting

no its not

youre not

I am more than it

there is a material difference between "I can never forget this because the aftershocks of this social construct still have repercussions on aspects of my daily life" and "I can never forget this because omg Ben Affleck SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ps I'm a racist", I agree

although considering that we have elected officials running referendum meetings on entire religions, an upsurge in American intolerance really shouldn't be seen as a surprise by anyone IMO

Guys, prepare to have your mind ~blown~
http://www.december212012.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=10524

Is there any description of the orbital alignment other than "just right"?

I got this far and then the lols became uncontrollable

there is a material difference between "I can never forget this because the aftershocks of this social construct still have repercussions on aspects of my daily life" and "I can never forget this because omg Ben Affleck SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ps I'm a racist", I agree

― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Friday, March 11, 2011 5:48 PM (7 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah theres that distinction for sure, but also some people on facebook at least seem to kind of believe they were there at pearl harbor

I am more than it

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, March 11, 2011 5:48 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

u wish

never forget! (that Ben Affleck got them real good)

poll:

http://www.december212012.com/images/celebrity_believers.gif

yeah theres that distinction for sure, but also some people on facebook at least seem to kind of believe they were there at pearl harbor

well to be blunt, that's what happens when you allow stupid people access to technology

lest we forget (what the Japanese did to Montgomery Clift)

i'm sure this is a very serious and worthy discussion but

darragh did you know there are stupid ppl on facebook?

facebook?

they are not just stupid, they are also mean, fyi

true

enginyd Engin Yenidunya
240 people found alive on rooftops in the totally devastated Rikuzen Takada. #earthquake #japan
3 minutes ago

sweet jesus.

really enjoying these dudes who were -50 years old when Pearl Harbor happened taking up their fight for America's karmic payback on this.....

Wait that 2012 forum guy accurately predicted there'd be a devastating earthquake/tsunami and got the day right and everything, back in January!? What the hell. Its like that Xenophiel guy who predicted 9/11

oh Leo Phoenix was eerie for sure....I remember that newsgroup fiasco

if you work out how many people are predicting disasters on the internet, and /noofdaysinyear

well the Phoenix guy was actually probably connected to 9/11 in some way, directly or indierctly....so that's not that amazing, easy to predict a plot you're a part of

Darragh yeah that occurred to me but I dunno, I'm sure there arent 295948543 2012 forums all randomly picking dates for something as not-linked as a random 2011 earthquake? Seems odd to me, I duno, maybe its fake

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just kind of want to point this out

lol well there ya go

sure it was just for spelling or w/e

there's like 5 different stories going on in this clip...but sweet jesus the footage of the boat starting at 0.52 is fucking amazing and terrifying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzDW6YvTHPk

Ah I missed that edit notation hahaha. Well then.

that "Celebrity Believers" gif that goole posted is making me lol so hard

celebrity beavers

Reuters flash said: Tepco says has lost ability to control reactor pressure at Fukushima Daini nos. 1, 2, 4 reactors.

Now they're going to vent no 1 apptly.

Ergh this is the most worrying thing tbh.

yes, it is

yet another 'holy shit'

yo not_goodwin those are elephants, but I can see why you would get the two confused

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 11 March 2011 22:44 (50 minutes ago) Bookmark

Chuckle.

Aftershocks are relentless:

 	MAG	UTC DATE-TIME
y/m/d h:m:s	LAT
deg	LON
deg	DEPTH
km	 Region
MAP	 5.0  	2011/03/11 23:21:22 	  39.161 	  143.296 	 25.0 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.4  	2011/03/11 22:54:28 	  36.494 	  142.267 	 25.4 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.8  	2011/03/11 22:51:18 	  37.806 	  144.967 	 25.0 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.3  	2011/03/11 22:42:59 	  37.627 	  143.801 	 27.4 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.0  	2011/03/11 22:36:57 	  37.097 	  143.796 	 25.0 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.2  	2011/03/11 21:41:58 	  37.279 	  142.351 	 10.1 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.4  	2011/03/11 21:00:46 	  39.048 	  142.477 	 24.9 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.1  	2011/03/11 20:41:24 	  37.675 	  143.698 	 25.0 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.5  	2011/03/11 20:36:10 	  37.838 	  142.847 	 24.9 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.1  	2011/03/11 20:34:40 	  36.993 	  140.985 	 25.2 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.5  	2011/03/11 20:23:44 	  35.818 	  141.583 	 24.2 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.3  	2011/03/11 20:11:23 	  39.025 	  142.645 	 8.7 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.6  	2011/03/11 19:46:49 	  40.472 	  139.070 	 10.0 	 NEAR THE WEST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.2  	2011/03/11 19:45:24 	  37.653 	  141.548 	 25.2 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.5  	2011/03/11 19:31:56 	  36.962 	  138.367 	 10.3 	 EASTERN HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.5  	2011/03/11 19:24:29 	  35.770 	  140.639 	 24.9 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.1  	2011/03/11 19:02:59 	  39.372 	  142.900 	 24.8 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.2  	2011/03/11 18:59:15 	  37.037 	  138.355 	 10.0 	 NEAR THE WEST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.1  	2011/03/11 18:44:06 	  36.858 	  141.029 	 25.5 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.9  	2011/03/11 18:17:06 	  36.218 	  141.685 	 25.4 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.7  	2011/03/11 18:11:24 	  37.118 	  142.160 	 13.8 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.0  	2011/03/11 17:50:01 	  37.648 	  144.991 	 25.8 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.4  	2011/03/11 17:32:14 	  37.137 	  144.572 	 24.8 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.1  	2011/03/11 17:30:48 	  37.418 	  141.099 	 24.9 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.0  	2011/03/11 17:23:57 	  36.015 	  141.888 	 24.9 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.5  	2011/03/11 17:17:00 	  37.111 	  144.145 	 26.4 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.0  	2011/03/11 17:12:41 	  37.564 	  144.069 	 25.1 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.0  	2011/03/11 16:55:53 	  37.779 	  143.171 	 25.1 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.0  	2011/03/11 16:34:22 	  39.376 	  143.405 	 40.8 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.0  	2011/03/11 16:20:52 	  36.157 	  141.877 	 25.3 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.5  	2011/03/11 16:11:27 	  39.463 	  143.577 	 9.2 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.3  	2011/03/11 16:04:53 	  39.236 	  144.320 	 25.5 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.0  	2011/03/11 15:55:23 	  36.626 	  142.162 	 24.8 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.0  	2011/03/11 15:50:59 	  37.409 	  142.217 	 24.9 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.0  	2011/03/11 15:46:02 	  36.022 	  141.958 	 19.7 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.4  	2011/03/11 15:42:05 	  36.066 	  141.515 	 15.8 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.2  	2011/03/11 15:32:34 	  37.216 	  142.233 	 25.0 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.6  	2011/03/11 15:19:38 	  36.233 	  141.856 	 25.0 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.2  	2011/03/11 15:13:15 	  35.997 	  141.796 	 18.9 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.0  	2011/03/11 15:01:39 	  39.082 	  142.383 	 26.0 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.8  	2011/03/11 14:56:16 	  35.979 	  141.367 	 25.0 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.4  	2011/03/11 14:54:04 	  35.919 	  141.819 	 24.9 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.1  	2011/03/11 14:44:08 	  36.655 	  140.769 	 25.1 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.4  	2011/03/11 14:26:31 	  37.431 	  142.254 	 13.2 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.1  	2011/03/11 14:20:20 	  37.947 	  143.183 	 25.2 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.2  	2011/03/11 14:10:39 	  37.575 	  141.963 	 25.5 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.5  	2011/03/11 14:00:38 	  36.151 	  140.845 	 30.8 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.2  	2011/03/11 13:55:28 	  38.039 	  142.831 	 24.9 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.3  	2011/03/11 13:48:38 	  38.426 	  143.061 	 25.1 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.6  	2011/03/11 13:43:10 	  38.972 	  144.209 	 25.2 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.6  	2011/03/11 13:34:36 	  36.249 	  141.850 	 35.5 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.1  	2011/03/11 13:31:55 	  39.152 	  142.837 	 25.0 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.8  	2011/03/11 13:16:50 	  36.304 	  141.730 	 30.1 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.1  	2011/03/11 13:15:45 	  37.393 	  141.882 	 30.1 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.3  	2011/03/11 13:02:43 	  36.755 	  141.885 	 30.2 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.3  	2011/03/11 12:59:21 	  36.128 	  141.768 	 24.9 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.4  	2011/03/11 12:54:52 	  38.502 	  142.120 	 36.7 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.6  	2011/03/11 12:49:01 	  36.158 	  141.711 	 25.0 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.3  	2011/03/11 12:34:22 	  36.912 	  143.736 	 39.0 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.2  	2011/03/11 12:33:19 	  38.374 	  142.590 	 29.7 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.2  	2011/03/11 12:28:45 	  36.166 	  141.664 	 29.3 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.3  	2011/03/11 12:24:37 	  36.525 	  141.707 	 27.8 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.9  	2011/03/11 12:12:53 	  38.052 	  142.542 	 21.6 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.1  	2011/03/11 12:04:16 	  36.351 	  142.700 	 38.4 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.5  	2011/03/11 11:56:16 	  36.356 	  141.504 	 39.4 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.1  	2011/03/11 11:54:02 	  36.982 	  142.535 	 45.0 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.8  	2011/03/11 11:46:47 	  36.034 	  141.055 	 47.5 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.8  	2011/03/11 11:44:28 	  36.709 	  142.231 	 31.0 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.5  	2011/03/11 11:36:39 	  39.276 	  142.521 	 11.6 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.7  	2011/03/11 11:21:02 	  35.759 	  140.913 	 25.2 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.5  	2011/03/11 11:16:51 	  36.614 	  141.894 	 36.6 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.5  	2011/03/11 11:13:12 	  36.451 	  141.789 	 18.2 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.5  	2011/03/11 11:10:58 	  35.534 	  141.856 	 27.7 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.6  	2011/03/11 11:00:51 	  37.813 	  141.481 	 28.7 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.1  	2011/03/11 10:58:06 	  39.060 	  142.213 	 30.3 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.0  	2011/03/11 10:52:08 	  38.534 	  143.346 	 29.9 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.5  	2011/03/11 10:45:46 	  38.466 	  143.591 	 41.1 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.3  	2011/03/11 10:35:36 	  37.044 	  141.298 	 25.8 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.9  	2011/03/11 10:28:44 	  39.447 	  143.531 	 29.3 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.6  	2011/03/11 10:20:27 	  36.966 	  142.289 	 21.7 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.0  	2011/03/11 10:10:35 	  39.248 	  142.779 	 28.9 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.2  	2011/03/11 09:59:57 	  36.703 	  142.207 	 41.6 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.5  	2011/03/11 09:47:02 	  39.685 	  142.938 	 29.7 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.2  	2011/03/11 09:42:22 	  39.438 	  142.749 	 30.2 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.4  	2011/03/11 09:37:08 	  35.877 	  141.585 	 29.9 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.5  	2011/03/11 09:09:15 	  37.717 	  143.267 	 36.2 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.4  	2011/03/11 09:04:10 	  37.299 	  142.655 	 30.5 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.2  	2011/03/11 09:00:20 	  37.056 	  141.966 	 20.0 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.4  	2011/03/11 08:52:26 	  36.763 	  141.910 	 35.8 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.5  	2011/03/11 08:46:48 	  37.421 	  142.453 	 37.3 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.9  	2011/03/11 08:40:56 	  37.465 	  141.122 	 38.6 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.1  	2011/03/11 08:31:08 	  37.428 	  141.200 	 25.0 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.5  	2011/03/11 08:19:24 	  36.200 	  142.000 	 19.9 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.2  	2011/03/11 08:15:41 	  37.034 	  144.612 	 27.8 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.2  	2011/03/11 08:12:05 	  36.606 	  141.557 	 19.8 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.5  	2011/03/11 08:10:31 	  36.394 	  140.631 	 30.4 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.9  	2011/03/11 08:01:59 	  37.071 	  142.734 	 22.6 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.6  	2011/03/11 07:56:16 	  37.130 	  142.305 	 34.0 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.7  	2011/03/11 07:54:45 	  37.742 	  141.565 	 45.3 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.8  	2011/03/11 07:42:55 	  36.406 	  141.919 	 29.9 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.9  	2011/03/11 07:38:27 	  39.250 	  142.783 	 29.1 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.1  	2011/03/11 07:28:12 	  36.802 	  141.911 	 24.0 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.1  	2011/03/11 07:25:33 	  37.916 	  144.621 	 15.0 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.3  	2011/03/11 07:14:59 	  36.648 	  141.811 	 25.0 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.9  	2011/03/11 07:13:47 	  36.051 	  142.347 	 28.5 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.8  	2011/03/11 07:11:00 	  37.899 	  142.734 	 30.0 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.3  	2011/03/11 06:57:15 	  35.758 	  140.992 	 30.2 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.3  	2011/03/11 06:48:47 	  37.993 	  142.764 	 22.3 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 7.1  	2011/03/11 06:25:51 	  38.106 	  144.553 	 19.7 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.8  	2011/03/11 06:15:40 	  36.186 	  141.192 	 35.0 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.4  	2011/03/11 06:07:22 	  36.401 	  141.862 	 35.4 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.4  	2011/03/11 06:06:11 	  39.025 	  142.316 	 25.1 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 8.9  	2011/03/11 05:46:24 	  38.322 	  142.369 	 24.4 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.3  	2011/03/11 00:14:51 	 -54.369 	 -116.808 	 10.0 	 SOUTHERN EAST PACIFIC RISE
MAP	 5.0  	2011/03/10 19:06:11 	  13.745 	  120.725 	127.0 	 MINDORO, PHILIPPINES
MAP	 6.5  	2011/03/10 17:08:37 	  -6.862 	  116.765 	508.1 	 BALI SEA
MAP	 5.2  	2011/03/10 16:54:45 	  38.053 	  143.253 	 4.7 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.1  	2011/03/10 11:21:08 	  38.611 	  143.049 	 17.6 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.2  	2011/03/10 09:02:22 	  38.652 	  143.146 	 21.9 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.7  	2011/03/10 08:08:21 	  38.630 	  143.304 	 17.2 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.4  	2011/03/10 04:58:18 	  24.710 	  97.994 	 10.0 	 MYANMAR-CHINA BORDER REGION
MAP	 5.0  	2011/03/10 01:20:24 	  38.408 	  143.033 	 25.1 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.4  	2011/03/09 23:37:01 	  38.438 	  143.185 	 32.8 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.5  	2011/03/09 21:24:52 	  -6.022 	  149.659 	 29.0 	 NEW BRITAIN REGION, PAPUA NEW GUINEA
MAP	 6.1  	2011/03/09 21:22:18 	  38.385 	  142.642 	 23.0 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.0  	2011/03/09 18:44:35 	  38.502 	  143.199 	 23.0 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 6.1  	2011/03/09 18:16:15 	  38.378 	  142.506 	 22.0 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.3  	2011/03/09 13:57:28 	  8.631 	  92.395 	 23.2 	 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION
MAP	 5.1  	2011/03/09 13:51:42 	 -20.216 	 -174.350 	132.5 	 TONGA
MAP	 5.0  	2011/03/09 13:24:08 	 -27.462 	  -68.853 	108.0 	 CATAMARCA, ARGENTINA
MAP	 5.1  	2011/03/09 11:27:52 	  38.529 	  143.040 	 28.2 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.3  	2011/03/09 08:02:36 	  38.606 	  143.103 	 15.4 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.1  	2011/03/09 07:56:28 	  38.849 	  142.929 	 10.7 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.0  	2011/03/09 07:13:48 	  38.246 	  143.108 	 9.9 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.1  	2011/03/09 06:25:12 	  38.299 	  143.067 	 10.8 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.3  	2011/03/09 04:45:54 	  38.543 	  142.740 	 27.0 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.7  	2011/03/09 04:37:04 	  38.666 	  142.991 	 25.5 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.2  	2011/03/09 04:32:10 	  38.727 	  143.001 	 32.1 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.2  	2011/03/09 04:05:54 	  38.870 	  142.420 	 10.9 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.0  	2011/03/09 03:19:00 	  38.795 	  142.962 	 19.9 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.2  	2011/03/09 03:08:36 	  38.339 	  143.097 	 24.4 	 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 5.6  	2011/03/09 02:57:17 	  38.402 	  142.825 	 17.5 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP	 7.2  	2011/03/09 02:45:20 	  38.424 	  142.836 	 32.0 	 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN

O_O

Japan's nuclear safety agency is set to issue an unprecedented order for Tepco to open a valve at the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant to release pressure, as we reported earlier.

USGS "Earth's axis has shifted 10 inches as a result of the quake. Japan's coastline has permanently shifted 2.4 meters." #craziestshitever
Twitter for Android • 3/11/11 3:25 PM
retweeted by @GreatDismal

!!!!!!!!!!

Holy hell.

I am pretty fucking worried about the nuclear plants. Especially the one close to Tokyo (where my parents live). Fuck. But y'know I should realize that my parents were fucking lucky. It was kinda weird 'n' funny: I was on skype with'em while they were watching the news/footage for the first time. They didn't realize what exactly had happened. The shock on their faces knowing what they had escaped.

Anyway this has been a very weird fucking day. :-(

that is very difficult to get one's head around

xpost

This thread is o_O followed by O_O

Technicians at the Fukushima Daiichi plant are set to release vapour from the unit in question to lower the pressure and prevent a meltdown.

This carries a risk that a small amount of radioactive material could leak, officials say.

When they release comments like this, it probably already happening but a lot worse.

Reports also said that cooling systems had also failed in three reactors at a second nuclear power plant, Fukushima Daini, 11km (7 miles) south of Daiichi.

not good!

i experienced an earthquake once. it was freaky. and it was smaller than every single one of those aftershocks jesus

William Gibson retweeted this link...unpacks the nuclear reactor stuff in a fairly technical manner, which I don't entirely follow...but leaves me at least with a *slightly* better feeling that there's a lot that has to go wrong before the worst can happen

http://theenergycollective.com/nathantemple/53384/how-shutdown-and-core-cooling-japanese-reactors-likely-functions

xpost been in a few, was okay. one time i thought my husband was rocking the couch to annoy me. i returned to my afternoon nap. lol

xp yeah but I feel like we're just reassuring ourselves about the official version of events while there is a much worse reality.

btw quakes scare the shit out of me. but the ones i been in were pretty minor.

VG; thanks for posting. now i can get some sleep.

Mr Veg was in the '89 Loma Prieta, and a few others I think.
I've only been in a couple of smallish ones, both in '99. One in Narita, Japan which feels weird now...woke up in my hotel on the 25th floor in the middle of the night and noticed the building was swaying, half-asleep I told myself 'must be the wind' and went back to sleep...turned on the news in the morning and was O_O!!!; then one in Vegas a few weeks later - Mr Veg woke me up almost excited-like, I srsly shat myself when he told me it was an earthquake. Saw the canopy over the old Vegas strip get a real big sway on.

Mr Veg kinda has a badge of honor thing about quakes, whereas I just am shit-terrified of them, the idea of them, pretty much everything about them.

with good reason, i reckon

Some interesting updates on Japan Security Watch: http://newpacificinstitute.org/jsw/ - the "Matsushima Air Base completed submerged" part is kinda o_O

At least four nuclear power plants were located in the worst affected areas. Three were apparently shut down without incident. The coolant system of the fourth reactor, Fukushima Daiichi, was crippled during the earthquake and there are reports that pressure on the plant’s safety systems is twice the rated requirement. There are reports of elevated levels of radioactivity inside the plant control room, and a community evacuation is in progress. Of particular note is the movement of a special nuclear, chemical, and biological-trained GSDF company-sized unit to Fukushima Daiichi. This unit, which may be the Central or 101st NBC Protection Unit, is part of Japan’s rapid-response Central Readiness Force and is equipped with NBC protection vehicles and advanced personal protection gear.

This part of Japan is considered the farthest from any conceivable military action, and as a result there are few Self Defense Force facilities and resources in the area. Matsushima Air Base, located just north of Sendai on Ishinomaki Bay, was “completely submerged” by tidal waves. According to the Asahi, 18 F-2 fighters were submerged by the wall of water, as well as T-4 jet trainers and U-125 search and rescue aircraft. 8,000 troops, likely the GSDF 6th Infantry Division, based at Otakineyama, are reportedly headed into the hardest-hit zones.

Good information being posted here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Sendai_earthquake

also there's still reports of 70,000 people stranded overnight at Tokyo Disneyland

Ok that is kinda lol

it is kind of insane that a country so at risk of quakes would rely so heavily on nuclear power of all things.

http://lafinjack.net/images/iconz/snoop_shake.gif

kinda wild 3 of the biggest 6 earthquakes EVER are in the last ~7 yrs

apparently the whole parking lot at Tokyo Disney has been affected by "soil liquefaction"

O_O

apparently if the ground shakes intensely enough, the soil can just completely liquefy.

I really should have paid more attention in Science.

Be interesting to see a pic of that.

This pic off the wiki is eerie and beautiful in its morbid way

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/2011_tsunami_wave_height.jpg

Alert sounded a minute before the tremor struck
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Alert sounded minute before tremor struck/4425621/story.html

No country on Earth is better prepared to deal with earthquakes than Japan.

Millions of Japanese were alerted to Friday's tremor a minute before it struck, thanks to the world's best early-warning system.

The sophisticated technology, connected to a network of about 1,000 seismometers around the country, gave people vital seconds to take cover and was thought to have saved countless lives.

Read an eyewitness account of a US businessman experiencing the earthquake as he stepped off a bus in Tokyo, said he stood in the middle of the city watching building sway like trees in the wind, the only thing falling over were bicycles. He said it was remarkable to see, and was sure that no other city could withstand such an earthquake.

it is kind of insane that a country so at risk of quakes would rely so heavily on nuclear power of all things.

Japan has no real natural resources and has to import everything, so it's not unexpected. Check out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Japan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_Japan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Japan

Aye I figured as much. Still scary.

so my question is how the fuck do you even begin to clean up

I'm still thinking that about New Zealand and the Brisbane floods, so this is doing my head in.

Like, the bushfires here thay destroyed Marysville completly? Its been over 2 years now, and the town is still not remotely rebuilt.

Yeah, exactly. I mean the other day I was watching recent aerial footage of Haiti and its like, god even when you start it's on such a small scale

there's a really profound sense of mastery in the foresight & careful preparation that led to all those delicately swaying Tokyo buildings. I don't know if you can quantify the results of the work that went into all the planning & engineering, but it blows my mind at what ppl are capable of.

xp: Well, exactly 66 years ago to the day, Tokyo was levelled to the ground by allied fire bombers.

And now it's the biggest and most technically advanced city in the world. I'd say that the rural agricultural/port towns on the Miyagi coast will be back before too long.

I can't get over that Haiti was "just" a 7.0 compared to this 8.8. Of course, sadly, Haitian buildings didn't sway like palm trees.

I was reading an article today about the gangs and overwhelming rapes occurring in the tent cities in Haiti. The writer was talking to an exasperated Haitian, who couldn't fathom how this horrible situation was supposed to get better. She pipes up, "Well, you know, there are places in New Orleans today that still look like they did two weeks after Katrina." The man can't come up with words and she ends the paragraph by saying something like "I'm not sure why I brought that up."

Can you link it PP?

It's on my instapaper thingy. Hang on.

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/haiti-rape-earthquake-mac-mcclelland

helluva url, that is.

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i experienced an earthquake once. it was freaky. and it was smaller than every single one of those aftershocks jesus

― mookieproof, Friday, March 11, 2011 7:08 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

I've been in two, one in suburban Chicago, the other in upstate New York. Both were minor but very fucking weird. Can't even imagine what people in Japan are going through. Thoughts and prayers are with all ILXors and their loved ones.

Wow PP, got half way through :(

6.8 aftershock in Sendai.

i missing presumed dead in Crescent City CA, docks also got hit hard.

the docks of Brookings Oregon were destroyed, around 300 boats destroyed or damaged.

4 people almost died in Gold beach but were rescued

tales of crowd stupidity in Santa Cruz here:

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_17595398?nclick_check=1

http://grab.by/9qJy

this little girls is all so you just left me huh

lol at the Santa Cruz 'surge' surfers. Actually when I heard Hawaii was in the line of fire I said to Mr Veg, if I hear the words "Laird" and "Hamilton" in any news stories about the Hawaii tsunami I will throw the radio out the window. Luckily 12 ft is puny by his standards.

I mean, I love watching the docos on big wave surfers and part of me thinks it's kinda cool but I'm such a safety sam, it just goes against everything I was ever taught about safety at the beach

Japan media proclaiming meltdown imminent.

14k people in a 10km radius ordered evacuated.

fucking hell

From ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corp website)

UPDATE: Kyodo and NHK are reporting that radioactive cesium has been detected near Fukushima nuclear plant 1.

@tokyoreporter: NTV says that Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Reactor is possibly melting down (that's literal translation).

@TimeOutTokyo: Reports: cesium detected around nuclear reactor1(Fukushima), which is one of the elements that gets released in a meltdown

so, is this stuff just seeping out into the air? there was no huge explosion or anything right?

as a Civilization player I appreciate how aggravating this must be

I think so, but a "normal" meltdown isn't exactly an explosion--the nuclear core just starts literally melting into the ground underneath it, and tunnelling into the earth, leaking out all sorts of hideous toxic crap as it does so.

xp

ah ok

i pretty much know jack shit about how nuclear plants work, personally

they won't be able to build on those squares for at least 20 turns

dicklp Richard Lloyd Parry
Four other Fukushima nuke reactors are struggling with similar problem. If multiple meltdown begins, it will be uncontrollable.

dicklp Richard Lloyd Parry
If there is full scale Fukushima meltdown current evac zone 10km is inadequate. 30km at least needed.

wsj guy trying to get to sendai and logging it http://twitter.com/#!/daiwaka

Moments before reports emerged that Fukushima may be experiencing nuclear meltdown, the plant's operators said they did not believe a meltdown was happening.

The water levels are recovering, said operator Tokyo Electric Power, according to Jiji.

A TEPCO spokesman told AFP that "we believe the reactor is not melting down or cracking. We are trying to raise the water level."

Kyodo News agency moments later said radioactive caesium had been detected near Fukushima plant, citing the nuclear safety commission.

(AFP)

there are some serious heroes at this moment inside that plant

heartbreaking image... feel cruel posting it (fyi: it's work safe), almost like i'm "exploiting" the woman within...but it's really photographs like these that put people in check. the number of #godzilla/#pearlharbor tweets today is infuriating.
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhwm6c05vM1qa04wlo1_500.jpg

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/12/japan-quake-pressure-idUSTKG00707620110312

(Reuters) - Japan's nuclear authorities said on Saturday that radioactive pressure was successfully relieved at the No.1 reactor at Tokyo Electric Power's Fukushima Daiichi plant by opening valves.

kelpolaris: http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90782/7056679.html

http://nightline.tumblr.com/post/3802065974/the-best-case-at-this-point-would-still-be-the-worst

“This is extremely serious. We are in uncharted territory. It is possible that this can be contained and we would have a very bad nuclear contamination event. But if the water levels continue to drop and the rods are exposed further it could lead to a core meltdown. The core would melt through the steel holding structure and plunge in a burning, molten mass into the concrete containment structure. If the structure is sound, it could contain the mass, if it has been structurally damaged, then it, too, could breech and we would have a massive, radioactive release.

The best case at this point would still be the worst incident since Chernobyl.”

16:18pm
Peter Hayes, a nuclear expert, tells Al Jazeera "it's still possible that the reactor workers can stabilise the situation" at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant "if power is brought back, if coolant is brought into the reactor", but "we're really right at the precipice of a massive nuclear crisis".

thats 4:18 so less than 20 mins ago

"Kyodo News agency said on Saturday that radioactive caesium had been detected near the plant, citing the Japanese nuclear safety commission.

A state of emergency has been declared for five nuclear reactors at two different sites in Fukushima, located about 250 kilometres northeast of greater Tokyo.

Steam containing low-level radiation were released to relieve pressure and tens of thousands of residents have been evacuated from surrounding areas.

LIVE BLOG

Radiation 1,000 times above normal was detected in the control room of one plant, although authorities said levels outside the facility's gates were only eight times above normal, spelling "no immediate health hazard"."

all those interviews posted 20 minutes ago don't sound like they've heard that latest Reuters link, which keeps getting pushed off the top of google news feeds by increasingly hysterical aggregates of earlier news

radiation is already escaping the plant and we'll see how much. further comparisons to Chernobyl still sound like hyperbole -- Chernobyl didn't even have a containment field, let alone 5 or 6 backup plans -- it was just a core that exploded straight up into the air, and the latest Reuters link says that Daiichi has managed to avert core meltdown

Japanese engineers are ridiculously competent and level headed people and I think the time's come for me to turn off the computer for the night

March 12 | Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:39am EST

March 12 (Reuters) - Japan's nuclear authorities said on Saturday that radioactive pressure was successfully relieved at the No.1 reactor at Tokyo Electric Power's Fukushima Daiichi plant by opening valves.

Prime Minister Naoto Kan declared the emergency. He announced the evacuations after visiting the plant.

I don't know if it's a wise decision to let yr PM go to a power plant in an emergency but you got to say that that shows some kind of leadership.

sleeve that was posted -- fwiw i thought that when they relieved the pressure, that was when they realized the caesium was in the air which meant a meltdown had begun?

I don't know if it's a wise decision to let yr PM go to a power plant in an emergency but you got to say that that shows some kind of leadership.

japan's gone through so many PMs lately they're probably like "eh, what's one more to lose"

also he just flew over in a helicopter iirc

Several people appear to be injured at Fukushima nuclear plant - NHK
by Reuters_TonyTharakan at 2:03 AM

so there was an explosion at the plant an hour ago?

Outer structure of building that houses reactor at Fukushima plant appears to have blown off - NHK
by Reuters_TonyTharakan at 12:12 AM

no, just now

http://www.twitvid.com/LICNU

video of explosion. looks bad.

jesus

Tepco says explosion may have been hydrogen used to cool Fukushima plant - Kyodo; Tepco says 4 people taken to hospital after reported explosion, no word on condition - Jiji
by Reuters_TonyTharakan at 2:20 AM

Tokyo fire department sending special nuclear rescue team to Fukushima - TV
by Reuters_TonyTharakan at 2:17 AM

NlHK was just airing nuclear safety measures

TV channels warned nearby residents to stay indoors, turn off air-conditioners and not to drink tap water. People going outside were also told to avoid exposing their skin and to cover their faces with masks and wet towels.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/world/view/20110312-325016/Shaking-smoke-at-quake-hit-Japan-nuclear-plant

this is not good

i pretty much know jack shit about how nuclear plants work, personally

same - really hoping that a lot of what i'm reading is the western media coming through with the hysterical hyperbole again :/

looks like it isn't hyperbole for once. shit has just gotten real.

From NHK: 'Explosion "heard" at quake-hit nuclear plant: Tokyo Electric Power Company says an explosion was heard at one of its nuclear reactors in quake-hit Fukushima Prefecture. It says several workers were injured."

oh lord

http://i.imgur.com/yQGkS.jpg

ooohhhhhhh lord

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg4uogOEUrU

from BBC live blog: Japan's NHK TV showing before and after pictures of the Fukushima-Daiichi plant. It appears to show that the outer structure of one of four buildings at the plant is no longer there.

I am shitting my pants here. :-( THis is fucking surreal. My parents. :-((

(I mean of course I fear for everyone, but I think of my parents first.)

Arrrgh ABC News 24 stop showing repeats of old current affairs shows

NZ television is abjecting its duties lamentably

Just calm down and wait, everyone. We don't even know what that building is, whether there's a reactor inside, etc.

We'll only find out what's really going on after it's happened. This whole "everything's under control, just keep indoors" thing is only what the public wants to hear, so there's nothing to be concluded from that right now, and every "something bad may have happened = something bad HAS happened!" thing in the news is just repeating every rumor they hear in case there's a scoop they'd otherwise be missing. Talking heads analyzing smokey pictures on a fuzzy TV image = filling the 24/7 schedule.

although it is now showing Burn After Reading. hmm.

god this is the most unsettling unfolding story i can remember though

Fingers crossed, stevienixed. Hope it's just steam/pressure/heat.

StanM is right. I'm just surprised at how little hard actual info there seems to be.

Japan's chief cabinet secretary Yukio Edano has deeply weird earlobes

They make his ears look upside down

Japan chief cabinet secretary Edano: Confirms radiation leak at Fukushima plant
by Reuters_TonyTharakan at 3:07 AM

Per BBC World: "Japan's NHK TV says officials measured the level of radiation at the entrance of the Fukushima-Daiichi plant at 1529 Japanese time. If people are exposed to this level of radiation for an hour they'd receive the same amount of radiation they normally would in a year, the report says."
comment by Revenimus at 3:31 AM

My father just said he has shitake growing behind his ears. Always sees the funny side. :-)

seems like this reactor was built in 1971, almost 40 years old. hopefully newer reactors are more earthquake proof. but as something like this event shows, how can you ever be sure? I'm sure they thought that the reactor was earthquake-proof when they built it in 1971.

As I understand it the plant survived the earthquake unscathed, it's the lack of power to maintain the cooling of the reactor which is causing the subsequent problems.

bbc reporter in Japan getting increasingly agitated that the Japanese security teams are not letting them nearer Fukushima than 60km despite the safety cordon being 10km. FFS you idiots, why would they let non-essential people even head towards a potential meltdown? It's plain common sense.

Chatham House nuclear expert on Sky just now seems very calm downplaying this - 'you can tell by the picture this is something like what you get when you demolish a block of flats, it's of that order, not a meltdown'. Reassuring, but then he and I are both 8,000 miles away.

thing is, we expect a meltdown to look like some biblical occurrence with bells/whistles/sturm/drang, but really, what does one look like.

3.5yr old A was just asking what a zoonami was so we had to explain tectonic plates etc by rubbing sofa cushions together

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Syndrome

I think his point was that it looked like just the outer shell blowing, which if I picked up right is a casing to protect cranes that move equipment around

seems to be the line doesn't it?

I think a lot of people are using Chernobyl as a comparison but the technologies and processes are light years apart.

The China syndrome becomes fictional in the hypothesis of it boring a hole from the United States to China, or any other part of the world (the opposite side of the earth from the USA is the Indian Ocean, except for a section of northern Montana, Hawaii and sections of Northern Alaska, central Colorado, whose antipodes are Ile Saint-Paul, Ile Amsterdam, French Southern and Antarctic Lands, northern Namibia and Antarctica, respectively)

wikipedia cutting right to the point

antipode of Fukushima = just off coast of Uruguay fwiw.

Fukushima wind forecast for today and tomorrow, WSW at 5 mph and subsiding. The towns outside the 10km exclusion zone in that direction are Koriyama and Sukagawa, and little else til the Sea of Japan.

A pity they couldn't or didn't start one of the undamaged reactors, say #6, to provide emergency coolant circulation for #1 and #2.
BTW, more modern boiling water reactors have don't need external power for their coolant loop. They just gravity dump neutron absorbing solution (like the aforementioned borax) in.

Always keeps some spare diesel generators around, Tokyo Electric Power Company. The forensics here will be interesting.

Reuters Reuters Top News
FLASH: Serious damage to reactor container at nuclear plant unlikely - Kyodo quoting Japan nuclear agency

I'm actually more worried about the crew that are trying to fix this. There aren't that many people trained in the mechanics, and moreover loss of access to valves/machinery covered in debris will make things more difficult.

Just speculating, but if things get dire and they lose all coolant they could just spray the pressure vessel down with seawater. Steel doesn't conduct too well, but it might be enough to keep the bottom where the fuel/supports etc dripping onto below the steel's melting point.