wow Victoria Jackson is a moron

Former 'Saturday Night Live' cast member Victoria Jackson recently voiced her outrage over the same-sex kiss between Chris Colfer and Darren Criss on 'Glee,' and it seems she's not slowing down her anti-tolerance crusade any time soon.

Jackson appeared on 'Showbiz Tonight' to defend her argument against the portrayal of gay relationships in the media.

"I'm really concerned about our country because immorality is, well, let's see: Secular humanism rules the airwaves, and it's stealing the innocence away from this whole generation of children. My daughter is a teenager, and I cant find any show that she can watch," said the former 'Celebrity Fit Club' star.

In a follow-up to her statement that Muslim-Americans are "plotting our demise," Jackson questioned the "agenda" of media that promotes equality for all individuals, regardless of background. "I just want to know why the liberals are pro-Muslim and pro-gay," she said. "Muslims kill gays. That's what's confusing to me. And the only thing I can come up with is the Muslims hate God and the gays hate his word."

Despite calling the kiss between Colfer and Criss "sickening" in her latest post for conservative website World Net Daily, Jackson brushed off accusations that she is homophobic. "That's a cute little buzzword of the liberal agenda. Basically, the Bible says that homosexuality is a sin," said Jackson, although she later backtracked, saying, "I have gay friends, and we love each other."

When asked whether or not she thought there was any credibility to the argument that 'Glee's' portrayal of loving homosexual relationships might help kids who are struggling to be accepted, Jackson responded, "It's not helping. They should have a celibacy campaign and tell kids that 50 percent of teenagers now have this new STD from oral sex. That's what they should try to be doing instead of trying to make kids gay."

She continued, "This culture is affecting our children and making them run away from Jesus Christ. God can't bless this nation if we are spitting in his face."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcYYs0eaiEE

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this is the oldest of old news

she has been a stupid insane person since, well... forever

yeah, I knew she was a nut, but I guess I managed to ignore her for the last few decades

I do think it's funny that the right is so desperate for celebrity that a) she passes and b) they're comfortable with her as their voice/face.

her teenage daughter is gonna have some THERAPY BILLS

"I have gay friends, and we love each other."

Using the royal 'we' I assume.

i'd probably have deep reservoirs of bitterness too if i was her and had to watch the comparative success nora dunn and jan hooks had post-snl.

My daughter is a teenager, and I cant find any show that she can watch," said the former 'Celebrity Fit Club' star.

best line

"I have gay friends, and they sicken me."

as a kid I was fascinated by her, because she was so hard to read -- hovering in this space that seemed mostly like a clever put-on but was too weird to entirely be that -- and it seemed more captivating than the other things on TV, which at that point were rarely difficult to understand. since then it has been both disappointing and fascinating to learn that (a) she's resentful about the roles and type she played, and was not in control of them, and (b) she seems horrible and mean and not clever at all.

In 2010 Jackson wrote in an article in that she did not learn how to vote until the 2000 United States Presidential Election.[7]

This bums me out.

Can you do "Saturday Night Live" and be a conservative Christian? Seems to me some of the humor is a little adult. Or has she repented? Has she also repented from being funny?

this is the oldest of old news

she has been a stupid insane person since, well... forever

― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, March 22, 2011 3:26 PM (1 hour ago)

Dan otm

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Has she also repented about calorie restriction?

Can you do "Saturday Night Live" and be a conservative Christian?
― Help Yourself, You Self-Pitying Turd (u s steel), Tuesday, March 22, 2011 12:31 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you should watch Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip

come on, no one should watch Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip

see also: dennis miller (okay, not nec. christian, but...)

xp hey, i thought that show was flawed but good

Dennis Miller had a completely different philosophy during his SNL years. It was only after 9/11 that he turned into a righty nut.

And I still think that's largely because he sees money in it.

wondering when 30 rock will get around to parodying her.

I really don't think she's enough of a concern for them to bother.

I always get her mixed up with the secretary from Twin Peaks

me too!

I always get her confused with a hooting chimp

!! I never consciously thought about it, but me too!

lol xp

aw

I'm just going to pretend that isn't an xp

omg me too DJP!!!!! xxpost :)

wondering when 30 rock will get around to parodying her.

I wouldn't be surprised if a few writers had her in mind during the "TGS Hates Women" episode from a few weeks ago.

there's this actress i used to work with who was afflicted with this double dose of lagging career and an almost frighteningly vitriolic hatred of liberal beliefs and she tended to blame the former on the latter, which is something she seems to share in part w/VJ and maybe janine turner as well.

http://weblogs.cw11.com/news/local/morningnews/blogs/piggy0212.jpg

janine turner is such a weird case

I do notice a correlation between bitter has-beens and conservative beliefs.

what happened to Janine Turner? I haven't paid attention...

She's as much as crackpot now as Victoria Jackson.

I do notice a correlation between bitter has-beens and conservative beliefs.

cf. Gallagher.

michael moriarty, guys

http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0311/0311presidentialchic.htm

love that man.

That's a career-killing essay if I ever read one.

isn't whatshisface from northern exposure also a rightwingnut now too? the deejay hunk. liked him on parenthood recently so i tried to ignore that i knew this. or maybe i have him confused with someone else.

John Corbett? Seems like I've heard he is. Maybe he's just trying to woo Janine Turner.

for some reason i don't have a problem watching the middle with everyone loves raymond mom. she is also "one of them".

well in fairness, unlike everyone else we're talking about she is actually funny, which makes it easier to watch her

(John Corbett not being a comedian; he has been decent in everything I've seen him in)

Ugh, looking up info on John Corbett, I found out Bo Derek is one of 'em too.

Patricia Heaton seems more churchy than conservative, which I realize isn't much of a difference.

there's a thread somewhere where we assessed john corbett's conservatism! like his album covers and everything

or maybe i'm misremembering, idk

he's on this celebrity born again christian list. don't know how accurate it is though:

http://www.nndb.com/lists/028/000085770/

cyndi lauper is a born again christian?

as far as the whole "life" thing goes, this is a better approach than most:

"Heaton is a consistent life ethicist and is supportive of pro-life groups and causes, opposing abortion, euthanasia, and the death penalty."

hope she's anti-war though.

here's another handy list of hollywood republicans, but I question the authenticity. I mean David Lynch? really?

http://www.ranker.com/list/actors-republican-actor-and-conservative-actors-list/famous-conservatives

scott that website is messed up. what the hell is it, even??

http://www.nndb.com/people/374/000058200/

Howard Ahmanson, Jr.

Howard Ahmanson, Jr.AKA Howard Fieldstead Ahmanson, Jr.

etc etc etc

Risk Factors: Homophobia, Arthritis

hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

That's a career-killing essay if I ever read one.

― Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill)

http://www.ps3attitude.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Already-Dead-e1263400503343.jpg

lynch said at one time he was an admirer or Reagan, whether that actually translates to him being a conservative these days is beyond me, I kind of doubt it.

I don't remember anything about ronnie, but he liked Nancy Reagan a lot, which is suitably strange and Lynchian of him.

how the hell are those conservative actors "ranked?"

awwwwww man, Sam Raimi?

Patricia Heaton seems more churchy than conservative, which I realize isn't much of a difference.

she has a serious rw jackass streak, like she went out of her way to cross pickets + troll union workers in the last grocery strike (she was spokeswoman for a supermarket fwiw, cant decide if that makes it worse tbh lol).

aaaaaahahaha omar

(a) she's resentful about the roles and type she played, and was not in control of them,

any more info on this? I was really fascinated to see that above interview and how much of a space cadet she really is ("Thank you for being with us, Victoria" / "You're welcooome... ... ..."

xp

Omar's post is killing me.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/top-10-victoria-jackson-quotes-about-glenn-beck

#6 is a doozie

I blame this has-beens becoming right-wingers thing (include MST3K's Mike Nelson) on unemployed people having lots of time to kill and listening to talk radio.

Can you do "Saturday Night Live" and be a conservative Christian? Seems to me some of the humor is a little adult. Or has she repented? Has she also repented from being funny?

I don't know her work so can't comment on her herself. So don't know if she was funny in the first place.

Had thought that SNL was the closestc the US 70s came to alternative comedy & therefore the political slant would be leftist. If such a thing can be manifest on US tv at all. It is several decades since the show started so it could have become progressively conservative in that time. i think I'm more 'aware of its existence' than familiar with it at all. not sure how much of it I've ever seen, let alone recently.
Was this a political slant she was openly proferring all along or one that she developed later? I'd think rubbing shoulders with other showbiz types would be a bit difficult if you're that anti-gay, though she did 'correct' herself.

I don't remember SNL being very political in the period she was on. Though she appeared in some of those "Church Lady" sketches, which could be interpreted as critical of religion (though I could also see Christians digging them.)

Has she also repented about calorie restriction?

You're not helping

isn't whatshisface from northern exposure also a rightwingnut now too?

Ah no. I hate that.

she has a serious rw jackass streak

I heard from someone who heard from someone (so authoritative!) that the set of Everybody Loves Raymond could sometimes be a difficult place to work, with her and Peter Boyle butting heads over politics.

i hate when people get all "she's a comedian maybe this is all an elaborate joke" but seriously those VJ quotes about Glenn Back are so funny they made me honestly wonder if she's not really the most committed and convincing political satirist in show business

I blame this has-beens becoming right-wingers thing (include MST3K's Mike Nelson) on unemployed people having lots of time to kill and listening to talk radio.

Oh no not him too. I just read an "ask me anything" that he hosted on Reddit - thankfully he didn't discuss his political views - and it sounded like he never left MN, so I would hope he's not too bitter about haven limited work now.

Mike Nelson was a conservative at the height of MST3K's popularity

also he left MN in 2006

david lynch is sort of an asshole iirc

What I don't know about Mike Nelson could fill a warehouse.

Mike Nelson has been best buds with fellow Minnesotan, conservative gadfly and pop-culture-ephemera curator James Lileks since forever. It really doesn't affect his work, since he manages to continue doing RiffTrax with the decidedly left-ish Bill Corbett and Kevin Murphy.

Left Minnesota as mentioned, he and his family have what I gather is a pretty nice place in San Diego, etc. He ain't starving for work.

Bleh. I wonder what Joel's politics are.

"I don't watch the news, because it depresses me." --Victoria Jackson during her SNL run, paraphrased from memory

Can you do "Saturday Night Live" and be a conservative Christian?

It gets even better--she first came to the world's attention by hanging out at the Playboy Mansion.

that doesn't add up for a number of reasons.

I first saw her on John Byner's show "Bizarre," on Showtime back in the 80s.

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/vjackson/2009/06/19/why-i-walked-out-of-year-one-crying/

"I just have a particular revulsion to grown women who talk like little girls. … And, she's a born-again Christian. I don't know. She was like from Mars to me. I never really got her." - Jan Hooks

Had thought that SNL was the closest the US 70s came to alternative comedy & therefore the political slant would be leftist.

Michael O'Donoghue, the first head writer of SNL, was a Dadaist dope-smoking hippie who had contempt for all institutions and politicians, like the National Lampoon magazine from which he sprang. Ever since Lorne Michaels returned to produce the show as an utterly safe, risk-free cash cow, its politics have been virtually nonexistent save to celebrate and showcase quasi-fascist New York mayor Rudolph Guiliani.

But this dumb cow was on the show between the two periods, in the '80s, when Dick Ebersol produced. She hasn't done anything of note in showbiz in 20 years, why is she receiving any face time at all?

from twitter

GeorgeTakei Former SNL star Victoria Jackson rants that Glee is turning boys gay. I think Victoria Jackson is more to blame for that.

Nice one, Sulu!

washed-up actors who come out in their late 60s get all the cred

Jackson joined SNL a year after Ebersol left and Michaels returned iirc

oh, no kiddin. well, the show had no political POV to speak of under either guy post-1980. Except controversial premises like "Sarah Palin says stupid shit" and "The media shouldn't ask too many questions about American wars."

mad magazine still more scathing

"When I was an SNL castmember trying to increase my movie roles, I attended some Tom Hanks/Meg Ryan premiere (go figure – it was a flop!) in a see-through black shirt with a flowered bra underneath. I felt ashamed, but I did get my picture in a few magazines."
^these sentences are really odd to me

it's like she's trying to be sarcastic and self-deprecating but it just comes across as flailing nonsense

if you look in the dictionary under flailing nonsense there is a picture of victoria jackson

off-brand dictionarys...

i mean is she being catty to meg ryan and tom hanks? and why is she scandalized by wearing a see through black shirt with a flowered bra? what's the shame with this remarkably tame look?

All of this is because she didn't like Joe Versus the Volcano.

Did anyone like it?

it was kinda crap.

xpost!

you're asking why a chaste xtian thinks a see-through shirt where you can see her bra is scandalous?

Joe Vs The Volcano rules, fuiud

Wait, WHAT??

I went on a date with Arthur Godfrey right before he died...

...which caused him to die.

Joe Vs The Volcano rules, fuiud

― some dude, Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:36 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

SQT 106p · 91 weeks ago
Victoria, good to see you on BH. I guess you can look at it this way-- it's a darn good thing you and Apatow didn't hit it off. If this is what he considers good enough for public consumption, imagine what he finds funny in private. Thank you for taking one for the team and warning us off of "Year One." Otherwise I might have put it in my queue and ended up in tears-- just like you.

wait, "Year One" made her cry

okay that is the funniest thing she's said/done in decades

Sarah Palin: The Perfect Feminist by Victoria Jackson

The perfect Feminist is Sarah Palin.

She is beautiful, thin, even athletic, successful, happily married, a good mother and a grandmother. She’s got it all – everything those Suffragettes were fighting for back in 1920. Not only can she vote, she got voted for! And, she was a great Governor. She’s got everything those sixties Gloria Steinem’s wanted. But, the Gloria’s won’t admit it because Sarah thinks “right.” Liberals want tolerance, but only for themselves.

BREAKING NEWS: victoria jackson's date with judd apatow was her "taking one for the team"

The perfect Feminist is Sarah Palin. She is beautiful, thin, even athletic, successful, happily married, a good mother and a grandmother. The perfect Feminist is Sarah Palin. She is beautiful, thin, even athletic, successful, happily married, a good mother and a grandmother. The perfect Feminist is Sarah Palin. She is beautiful, thin, even athletic, successful, happily married, a good mother and a grandmother. The perfect Feminist is Sarah Palin. She is beautiful, thin, even athletic, successful, happily married, a good mother and a grandmother. The perfect Feminist is Sarah Palin. She is beautiful, thin, even athletic, successful, happily married, a good mother and a grandmother.

the breitbart empire really freaks me out. 219 comments on that shit.

xps the 'year one' mewling up there i mean

I remember her from UHF; she's always had this really dry sense of humor...otherwise, how does someone like this even get on SNL??

At least someone is finally recognizing how hard the first wave feminists fought for the right to be thin, beautiful and athletic.

BREAKING NEWS: Victoria Jackson dated Weird Al, "took one for the team"

Truth bomb: Suffragettes fought to be grandmothers

she was def my fav snl person as a kid

Over Nora Dunn and Jan Hooks? That's crazy talk.

she was def hotter

that had something to do w/it surely, also her shtick was a lil more abstract perhaps, thats more my style

anyway idk i was kid all excited to stay up late and watch saturday night live

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Zj2KakUZYyE/S611zd70aEI/AAAAAAAACwE/FR6DyQfem_I/s1600/VictoriaJackson.jpg
http://img.hotmoviesale.com/dvds/MCA-D22650D/1/Casual-Sex.jpg

Casual Sex? *rips hair out*

GIS for "victoria jackson casual sex" is NSFW celebrity skin out the wazoo

Oh man, those Breitbart comments...

When someone as sweet as Victoria Jackson cries, the whole world is a little sadder.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Zj2KakUZYyE/S611zd70aEI/AAAAAAAACwE/FR6DyQfem_I/s1600/VictoriaJackson.jpg

^^^Britney v1.0

I always thought Julia Sweeney was a looker but Victoria Jackson definitely was the hottest of them all

Which make the recent pics of her +20 years and +40 pounds kind of depressing

if only as a reminder that it's gonna happen to you and everyone you love?

if they're lucky

Victoria Jackson definitely was the hottest of them all

How soon we forget Rachel Dratch...

Shocked that so many young ilxors were finding VJ hot way back when. Even then, I had no attraction to her at all.
Here's all ur cutes right here

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TYohPV566cI/AAAAAAAAAkQ/8v01SVKwdhg/85089845.jpg

I can't decide if these early VJ tonight show appearances are genius performance art or embarrassing proof that pretty blond ladies can get away with anything (maybe both)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RkGm4-KSDU&feature=player_embedded

I mean it's really funny and fascinating if you pretend it's brill Kaufmanesque performance art, and she must have been "in on it" to some degree but certainly not 100%? I just dk anymore.

giving her too much credit imo

ugh, this is probably not the place for me to rant on this topic, and just another in a long run of "hey ILX, let ME tell you what's not funny", BUT.......
SNL in general kind of makes me sympathetic to the Lex's claim that he hates all comedy. imo the early years have dated very poorly, and if they were ever funny, it was probably because the audience was massively stoned/drunk and hadn't really been exposed to that sort of shit before. fucking JIM belushi is funnier than john; granted, for all the wrong reasons, but whatever...

when i was in junior high school i would watch the christopher guest years, and oh, i thought the show was SO LOL, but i doubt much of that holds up well anymore. billy crystal? yark. and ever since the godforsaken david spade-ish/jon lovitz-ish years, it's been sooo painfully self-congratulatory to sit through. like the stuff of comedy nerds/improv geeks. ouch. i mean, if you're doing a recurring character and the response is more applause and cheers-geared than actual laughter, then you are blaspheming comedy imo.

fucking JIM belushi is funnier than john

congratulations you seem to have developed the perfect hybrid of RONG and CHALLOP

everybody knows all this about snl. people watch anyway. what can you do? sometimes live t.v. hits the spot.

comedy is always cheap, it's a con you enter willingly, it's just good enough for what the moment requires, it always 'dates poorly'

You mean the Christopher Guest YEAR? xps

i guess so, haha

it always 'dates poorly'

kinda disagree about this

ever since Comedy Central lost the rights to SNL I have almost never seen the program, but the episodes with Adam Sandler/Tim Meadows/Mike Myers/Dana Carvey/Victoria Jackson/Julia Sweeney/Phil Hartman/Chris Farley/Norm MacDonald are still good, right?

no.

if comedy lasts it's an accident

To bring out the old trope "everyone thinks the best SNL is the SNL that was on when they were 13," and it's probably true, but I think the Carvey/Lovitz/Hartman/Hooks/Dunn/Jackson/Nealon, etc. cast was probably the most well-oiled machine the show ever had, and a ton of those sketches still make me laugh just thinking about them.

snl also has a majikal ability to make funny people not funny. most sane people have a love/hate thing with that show. it comes with the territory. what drives me bonkers is when i see how easily they could make the show better and funnier. but that has driven me bonkers for decades.

perfect example-- i think dana carvey doing impressions/standup can be hilarious, but, uh, is there anything about the wayne's world or churchlady or chopping broccoli guy that was ever funny?

Church Chat was great, until they overdid it.

i think this season has been really good!

This season's been better than recent years, because I think this cast is really starting to gel (took long enough). And the "Kings of Catchphrase Comedy" short from the last live episode was the funniest thing I've seen SNL do in years.

the thing for me as a kid was more the excitement than the lolz, like this is happening NOW in NEW YORK and there is ELECTRICITY IN THE AIR, although i for sure lold, now i would rather watch p much anything else

also of coure it is LATE AT NITE

hulu & netflix have improved my relationship with this show a lot tbh.

-it always 'dates poorly'

-kinda disagree about this

i agree with this ^

it's called Kids In The Hall and it is still so funny it makes me sad.

I loved the Guest/Shearer/Short season, but I recently re-watched the Gumby-in-a-deli sketch...boy, that didn't hold up to well. How was it that I wasn't bored by that when I was 12?

*too

Dell have you seen the Charles Grodin episode? Bcz that seriously has to be the best ever (that and the one where Francis Ford Coppola tried to 'direct' an episode).

no, i will try it, though

I'll grant that it's the exceptions that don't date poorly but when stuff has a really solid conceptual basis underpinning it - stuff that transcends pop-cult references, for example - it does last, and it is really amazing (would include the Marx Bros, Steve Martin's standup, Richard Pryor's standup, and Kids in the Hall in my short list)

The last couple of Christmases Mr Veg has given me Season 1 and Season 2 of SNL on DVD (at my request), and I've really enjoyed them. Sure there are sketches that don't go over, but I don't watch them and think, "man they are so overrated".

If you sit around and navel gaze having not watched them in forever then sure, you can say that...but you'd be wrong :)

lol, ok

A buddy of mine has been going through the old seasons on DVD, in order, and he's shocked how much he's never seen or doesn't remember because the bits got edited out of syndication, best-ofs and reruns. He keeps encountering totally bonkers stuff lost to the dustbin.

"This season's been better than recent years, because I think this cast is really starting to gel (took long enough). And the "Kings of Catchphrase Comedy" short from the last live episode was the funniest thing I've seen SNL do in years."

the filmed stuff is always funniest because it's actually WRITTEN. like really written.

there is some REALLY good stuff in the early seasons. Season 1 kinda sucks tho. Honestly it's the music clips in the early seasons that I love the most.

OMG VEG GIRL did you see the Ingmar Bergman/pizza sketch? I think I shat myself laughing.

and therein lies the irony. for its entire history the non-live stuff has always been way better and better written and funnier.

xpost Shakey, Season 1 is patchy for sure...but then some of the music stuff is the WHOLE show like the Paul Simon (?) episode? Also the freaking NINE appearances or w/e of James Taylor in one episode in Season 2 almost made me return the DVD, lol

the all-Paul episode is probably my favorite of the Season 1 DVDs (we sold back the set recently fwiw)

Paul playing basketball against Connie Hawkins = quality

xxpost Stevie YES I loved that!!!!!

to this day you can play Garrett Morris's News For The Deaf to my father-in-law and he will literally weep with laughter

fucking JIM belushi is funnier than john

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/WilliamCrump63/tombelushi.jpg

u mad, there's more laffs in this one image than in Jim Belushi's entire career.

<3 Belushi

Belushi is pretty wildly overrated cuz of his dying young but his career highs are pretty high - Animal House, Beethoven/Ray Charles, the Blues Brothers movie

YOU'RE wildly overrated

for its entire history the non-live stuff has always been way better and better written and funnier.

i think a lot of this is due to practically no one learning their lines for the live sketches. watch the cast members' eyes - 99% of the time they're not actually looking at each other, they're looking offstage to the teleprompter.

i loved vj when i was young. and i too thought it was all an elaborate character.

his career highs are pretty high

"Don't Look Back in Anger" ftw

I ran outta gas, I had a flat tire, I didn't have money for cabfare, I had to get my suit back from the cleaners, a friend came in from outta town, there was an earthquake! a terrible flood!

did i ever tell you about the time that i went and saw dizzy gillespie at fat tuesdays and in the middle of dizzy's set i turned around and john belushi was on the staircase watching and dancing? i just sat there and watched him the entire time. then he finally left and i could pay attention to dizzy. the man could dance.

Belushi is pretty wildly overrated cuz of his dying young but his career highs are pretty high - Animal House, Beethoven/Ray Charles, the Blues Brothers movie

mm, i don't think animal house is funny, and i refuse to watch the blues brothers

You guys wanna talk bad snl seasons, try sitting through that Randy Quaid/Robert Downey Jr one that's streaming on netfix

there is some REALLY good stuff in the early seasons. Season 1 kinda sucks tho. Honestly it's the music clips in the early seasons that I love the most.

― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, March 23, 2011 1:30 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

Season 3 has some amazing episodes. When Ray Charles hosted, he more than held his own with the cast, and was funnier than most of them. Madeline Kahn, bizarrely enough, stunk up the joint. The musical guests that season, wow...Charles, Elvis Costello, Sun Ra...

del what do you think is funny

yeah Season 3 is bonkers

Yeah, that cast was AWFUL, but the one bit to come from those years that's all-time classic is when Madonna hosted and they did the bit about her wedding. xps

did i ever tell you about the time that i went and saw dizzy gillespie at fat tuesdays and in the middle of dizzy's set i turned around and john belushi was on the staircase watching and dancing? i just sat there and watched him the entire time. then he finally left and i could pay attention to dizzy. the man could dance.

― scott seward, Wednesday, March 23, 2011 1:43 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

That fucking rules. According to Aykroyd, Belushi didn't know shit about anything that wasn't white rock before they started doing their Blues Brothers schtick (not that Dizzy's thing would have fit into that, but Belushi's ears had been opened).

Haha dudes, there's an SNL thread for this...

i loved vj when i was young. and i too thought it was all an elaborate character.

Well, yeah, it totally IS a character. Judy Holliday + Marilyn Monroe + Goldie Hawn circa 'Laugh In' + balance beam.

Victoria Jackson just looks like all the other fried blonde moron right-wingnut women of a certain age group out there, and she's just cranky that stuff doesn't just get handed to her because she's pretty and white, like in the old days.

del what do you think is funny

well, you mentioned the marx brothers up there. i haven't watched them in years, but i used to think some of their stuff was funny. and you mentioned steve martin's early standup. i like that. and i liked the time that guy came on here and asked if it were true that vordul got sonned by a wite guy in a aol beef.

Morbz has itt made me interested in the first three years of SNL: otherwise SNL has been p much complete ass my entire life, like even when I was 13. Not shocked in the least that someone most well-known for starring in SNL has turned out to be public dipshit #1...

I did like some of the Lorne Michaels spin off movies--the first Wayne's World, Coneheads, Tommy Boy, Stuart Saves His Family, plus the KITH movie*. Someone should poll them...

*I am v surprised to find that Airheads was not a Lorne Michaels movie; I really love that movie too...

Someone should poll them

unfortunately I think there's WAY more than 50

right on

just for the record...Stuart and Tommy Boy probably would show up in the 20s or 30s of any top movies of the 90s list I made, and I have a hunch Brain Candy and Coneheads fall just outside...

I did like some of the Lorne Michaels spin off movies--the first Wayne's World, Coneheads, Tommy Boy, Stuart Saves His Family, plus the KITH movie*. Someone should poll them...

yikes

if you laughed during "brain candy" then... i just don't know

watched the sun ra episode a couple of weeks back, and the arkestra's performance just left me mouth agape in awe. one of the most amazing, inspiring things i've ever seen.

zp brain candy is great. its not as good as most KITH sketches, but i still really like it.

Brain Candy is awesome

brain candy is all time fuiud

Happiness Piiiiiieee

google says there has actually only been 11 snl movies:

The Blues Brothers
Wayne's World
Wayne's World 2
Coneheads
It's Pat
Stuart Saves His Family
A Night at the Roxbury
Blues Brothers 2000 F
Superstar
The Ladies Man
MacGruber

"more in circles... mmmm less in circles. more in circles. mmmmmmm. headscratch Chris?"

omfg i'm still angry about sitting through that shit

also, the blues brothers movie rules.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVPn14A1msc&feature=related

"monkey cum"

I guess that list only accounts for proper sketches turned films

i saw this the one saturday night it ran in london, there were twelve other people in the cinema. i watched it with my KITH-loving friend and we quoted lines back from it for years.

"monkey cum"

I am ashamed that I immediately got this

Here's the Madonna monologue/filmed bit I love: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=146487438699406

It's a shame the only Will Ferrell SNL character to ever get a movie was the Roxbury guy (and, I guess, the George Bush special on HBO if that counts).

i'm a huge KITH stan and imo Brain Candy is aite but there's such a huge quality gap between most of the series and that movie that when people rep for BC hardcore i have to wonder how much of the show they ever watched or if they really 'got' why it was great.

um all of it

i know weve discussed this on other threads but for real macgruber is so fucking funny

xp to some dude: Comparing Brain Candy to other movies, not the show...though I don't know how much of the show I had watched when I first saw BC...

did you like KITH at all dell?

luv u some dude but if they really 'got' why it was great is lamelamelame

caught abt 3/4 of macgruber on hbo the other night and was surprised at how much I laughed

i know it's a totally snobby thing to say, i mean people who rep for Brain Candy just bring out the worst in me because like WHY? there are hundreds of hours of TV of those guys killing it, and then people talk about some 90-minute overcooked version of a weak season 5 sketch?

did you like KITH at all dell?

yeah, and i'm sorry if i'm being obnoxious on this thread. i just get so mystified by how wide-ranging people's responses are to stuff sometimes.

anyhow, i was hanging out with my brother years ago and he rented that movie and asked me if i liked them, and i was like "sure". so we both sat there watching it, and i don't think either of us so much as cracked a smile the entire time? like, it was dire. and i sort of remember reading reviews around the time it came out talking about what a horrible, curiously unfunny misstep it was...

but who knows? maybe i would love it if i were to watch it again.

Belushi didn't know shit about anything that wasn't white rock

lol totally read this wrong at first

Geir didn't know shit about anything that wasn't white rock

there are hundreds of hours of TV of those guys killing it, and then people talk about some 90-minute overcooked version of a weak season 5 sketch?

ITA. Brain Candy isn't bad, but I don't really understand the people who claim it is their best work.

magruber is pretty crazy! watched that on the netflix.

wired has belushi as a drummer in a garage rock band in his high school years iirc. aykroyd introduced him to the blues, to soul, and also to the ventures, whose 2000 pound bee he took as his anthem.

brain candy's not their best work, no. but its still pretty great imho.

I rented Brain Candy the summer after I graduated with my best friend when my folks were out of town and we hung out every day and got stoned. We also rented Pecker, and liked both: thought they were funny, I didn't like BC as much as I liked the show, but I certainly didn't hate it by any means. One of the better movies I've seen from the 90s...

sex scene in magruber that leads to the graveyard and the ghost sex scene!!! i laughed. a lot. then again i was stoned, but still, i enjoyed that thing. weird tone too in that movie! like he embarrassed me when he went to far and i think that's a good thing.

between kids in the hall and trailer park boys on netflix i am SO in love with canada right about now.

i just get so mystified by how wide-ranging people's responses are to stuff sometimes.

I was pondering this and started writing this huge wall of text post about how nostalgia affects what people thinks is funny, but the thread moved too fast and I ended up deleting it. But, the basic gist is that I have a few friends my age who are super nostalgic about things that made them laugh when they were young, and I am not that kind of person at all. For me an element of surprise is crucial for me to really fall out laughing at something. I can laugh about a joke/bit two or three times, but it gets less enthusiastic each time. I recently watched The Blues Brothers - one of my favorite movies as a kid - and not only did I barely crack a smile, but I found myself kind of embarrassed a few times. For one of my friends, things seem to get funnier the more times he sees a bit he loves. He still watches the Chappelle Show and laughs as hard as he ever did at his favorite bits. I think maybe a few of the posters on this thread are also like that which may explain the disparity.

yeah good thing you deleted that huge wall of text post.

yikes some dude who pissed in your Cheerios?

am I the only one on this thread who thought the Chapelle Show was kind of lame? only things I lol'd about from that show was the Mad Real World, and the Rick James ep...

It's kind of the opposite for me with Chappelle's show. I know that it's kind of a golden calf but already the show feels very dated...a lot of the jokes only really work in the context of 2003/2004. Also it's becoming harder to forgive the small amount of content that you get with each show; dunno if it's true but that show always seemed to have the most commercials, plus the musical guests.

Shows like the Simpsons and Seinfeld are the ones you can watch over and over and generally find funny every time. I know what you mean though rockapad; I used to absolutely love movies like Spaceballs and Men in Tights and nowadays I don't think I find anything about them funny.

am I the only one on this thread who thought the Chapelle Show was kind of lame?

no

"To bring out the old trope "everyone thinks the best SNL is the SNL that was on when they were 13," and it's probably true"

mostly because the level of SNL humor is and always has been aimed at 13 year olds

Maybe the mind tends to romanticize things. I remember seeing a sketch when I was about 13 that had Jerry Seinfeld hosting a game show where the contestants were all Jerry Seinfeld impersonators. Of course NBC being NBC it's impossible to find that clip online anywhere for some reason but I remember it being hilarious. I'm almost sure I'd be disappointed if I saw that today.

am I the only one on this thread who thought the Chapelle Show was kind of lame? only things I lol'd about from that show was the Mad Real World, and the Rick James ep...

btw my other post was supposed to be xp, I guess I kind of agree with you although it was generally very funny...I just think it's going to get kind of a backlash in the coming years. I don't think the jokes hold up well.

the Niggar family sketch was next level

mostly because the level of SNL humor is and always has been aimed at 13 year olds

When I was 13, I was walking around my school saying "A Morey Amsterdam! A Morey Amsterdam!" from that Gumby-in-a-deli sketch. I had no idea who Morey Amsterdam was. Neither did the school psychiatrist.

actually I like the Chappelle Show more now than I did back then...when I first saw it, I only thought the Rick James ep was okay, but now I think it's genuinely lolworthy...

ppl are going to be v disappointed if they come on this thread to talk about Victoria Jackson, lol

To bring out the old trope "everyone thinks the best SNL is the SNL that was on when they were 13," .

SURELY this won't be true of those who are or were 13 for the last 5 or 10 yrs to now????? It is just truly dead now, excepting very few sorta funny bits, which usu include Justin Timberlake.

ppl are going to be v disappointed if they come on this thread to talk about Victoria Jackson, lol

I think all the avenues of discussion have pretty much been exhausted by this point

We can pick it right back up the next time she says something incredibly stupid (which seems to be every other day).

yeah lol any minute now I suspect

SURELY this won't be true of those who are or were 13 for the last 5 or 10 yrs to now????? It is just truly dead now, excepting very few sorta funny bits, which usu include Justin Timberlake.

Yeah the last thing I really thought was funny from them was "Lazy Sunday" and that was a really long time ago. Mostly I just remember how hard it was to find the video since NBC insisted on taking it off the web every time they came across it, which is one of the dumbest things they could do - I mean SNL has been irrelevant for so long, why pass on the free advertising?

Last one I watched (because I had left the TV on too long) had this sketch about the "lost Soul Train episodes", which seemed like a great premise but they did it so terribly.

I lolled at Lost Soul Train.

i know a lot of "normal people" who think SNL is just HILARIOUS and quote regularly from current episodes but fucked if i've seen anything amusing on it since caveman lawyer

I rarely bother with SNL, but on the rare occasion I do, every bit is the inverted version of the "At first I was like..." meme.

So many of the sketches are simply...nothing. It is like watching them doing a version of a sketch in which the real writing has been replaced with dummy or place-holder words. It's like the lorem ipsum of comedy. If that kind of nothing happened were just a characteristic of a sketch here and there, I would think they were conceptual bits, but that's not what's happening. No exaggeration, I think the writing is overall better on pretty much every shit sitcom I have ever seen on WB or wherever else D-grade sitcoms are featured.

well they have all these MOVIES they're working on do u c

sitcoms aren't written in a week, I don't think

they also aren't written by like 30 people

So many of the sketches are simply...nothing. It is like watching them doing a version of a sketch in which the real writing has been replaced with dummy or place-holder words.

agree with this tho

and buildings aren't built in a month. but if you bill yourself as an architect who will build you a sturdy building in a month and i can push it over with one hand, I still have a right to call you a shitty architect

who needs to bother writing when you have a gold mine of wonderful Kristen Wiig characters

it's not just nothing. well it is, but the nothing gets slowly amped up, through to the end of the sketch. it's like a rock band who thinks that all good songs just need to get louder and louder and louder until they stop. so the structure goes:

0 + 2(0) + 3(0) + 4(0) + 5(0) ...

and on and on. but it's true, the thing that's being multiplied is zero, so it still ends up being zero.

is the current incarnation of SNL the worst ever? I guess the only competition is the Downey Jr. cast.

It is not even close to the worst ever.

the spade/sandler/farley era was definitely better though.

I've always thought the eddie murphy cast was pretty fucking terrible.

The entire Piscopo era was rough.

Yeah, Piscopo/Murphy cast and Downey Jr/Hall casts are the worst ever.

the best people on sln have always been the people who were just funny to look at and who were funny standing still. cuz the material has always been wildly uneven or just horrible. people like gilda radner and bill murray and will ferrell off the top of my head. jan hooks. um, others.

snl

i can't believe ile has sucked me into another snl conversation. you are bad bad people. you could talk about this show forever couldn't you? yes you could.

I wonder why this is true though, you'd think it's a choice job for a comedy writer and they could really have the best writing staff around. but I guess lorne michaels is more of a businessman than a good judge of humor.

Yeah, Piscopo/Murphy cast and Downey Jr/Hall casts are the worst ever.

Funny thing is, Piscopo/Murphy years were seen as "Oh, SNL doesn't COMPLETELY suck anymore," and the Downey Jr/Hall season was "What the fuck just happened?"

is victoria jackson even the nuttiest snl republican?
what about lorne michaels?

http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Lorne_Michaels.php

so, no

maybe it was an ironic donation?

sitcoms aren't written in a week, I don't think

― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, March 23, 2011 5:16 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

they also aren't written by like 30 people

But the actually funny eras of SNL were written in a week.

My comparison of shitty SNL to shitty WB sitcoms (I've resisted the obvious portmanteau over and over) was more about how no one expects anything from unwatchable WB sitcoms, yet they are no worse than SNL, a comedy institution.

I get enough chuckles from SNL in any given week to continue watching it. There are some terrible sketches, to be sure, but there are also some truly inspired bits. As Scott says, a good percentage of the funny ones are pre-taped. I also generally enjoy Weekend Update, too.

I would rather watch SNL than a shitty WB sitcom, but maybe that's just me!

when I watch snl I sorta root for it to be good as if it were some small struggling local show

I wonder why this is true though, you'd think it's a choice job for a comedy writer and they could really have the best writing staff around. but I guess lorne michaels is more of a businessman than a good judge of humor.

― iatee, Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:33 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

they've had tons of good writers, its just that weekly, live sketch comedy is very difficult. and yeah, lorne is very hands-on and the show is usually worse for it.

i remain completely baffled by people who talk about current day snl like it's the worst it's ever been. does nobody remember the chris kattan era???????

daily show comes up w/ lol material 4 nights a week. obv not the same as sketch comedy, but ds still beats weekend update 4 times over when they're basically playing the same game.

I don't even think the live-aspect matters much - usually it's not not-funny because of the acting but because the underlying joke isn't that great or is only funny for like 15 seconds and then they make it last 4 minutes.

I don't think current snl is the worst it's ever been tho and I think the 70s golden age shit is hella overrated

i sort of get the sense that SNL is seen as a stepping stone for a lot of writers and actors, so while you get a lot of talent theres less of a focus on "make the whole show good" and more a focus on "how can i stand out the most"--i think this is esp. true of actor-driven character skits which are typically the most uneven and absolutely the worst when theyre unfunny

also the once-every-three-weeks "conservative" political sketches are just atrocious

Weren't like all 5 Kids in the Hall writers at one point? I always find that fact mindblowingly depressing...

that's a good point w/ the stepping stone thing esp w/ the actors

though you would think w/ the writers 'stand out the most' would = be funniest

lets talk about the onion

i like it i like their vids too havent watched any of their shit on tv tho

both tv shows are A+++

http://twitter.com/#!/alyankovic/statuses/50927334068457472

Al is rad.

Is it just my when-I-was-13 (actually, a little older) prejudice that I think the mid to late Hartman era (w Lovitz, Miller, Carvey, Hooks, Myers, Sandler, even Jackson) was the best all around?

i remain completely baffled by people who talk about current day snl like it's the worst it's ever been. does nobody remember the chris kattan era???????

Seriously, there's a line that could be drawn from cheri o'teri to mary catherine gallagher getting fonzie like applause to 9/11 to chris kaftan going GACK GACK GACK to Horation Sanz and Jimmy Fallon busting their own nuts to Darryl Hammond's 15th year with the show that seems to get a pass from current fans.

That 1985 season was awesome in retrospect. Randy Quaid as Reagan. That Black Girl. Dennis Miller when he was funny. The Replacements on a show hosted by Harry Dean Stanton. Jon Lovitz.

phil hartman! he's another one who could be funny doing nothing.

r.i.p.

the new season of SNL makes me lol 1000 times more than the cheerleader days

I think SNL also tries hard to appeal to a range of comedic sensibilities: there aren't that many shows that, week in and week out, attempt political satire, pop-culture parodies, straight-ahead topical jokes, short dadaist films, character-driven sketches, etc. Not to mention lowbrow gross-out humor vs. absurdist/intellectual stuff. Probably why the show sometimes feels not-so-funny is that it spreads itself too thin.

will ferrell carried the show during that era tho, and there's nobody as consistent right now

actually it's more that they think it's Kristen Wiig when it's clearly Kenan Thompson

Lorne has admitted that SNL's model is "if you don't like this sketch, stick around for the next one." He purposely gears the show each week to appeal to as many different tastes as possible. That's why if you're really into one style of humor, half or more of any week's show won't seem particularly funny to you.

kristen wiig and kenan thompson are both super 1-dimensional comics

Lorne has admitted that SNL's model is "if you don't like this sketch, stick around for the next one." He purposely gears the show each week to appeal to as many different tastes as possible. That's why if you're really into one style of humor, half or more of any week's show won't seem particularly funny to you.

That's a lot of crap to sit through, for whatever comedic sensibility you have.

Being able to ff through commercials and musical numbers is one reason why I watch the show more these days though.

(And ha, I didn't click on this thread for days because I had no interest in hearing about something insane said by Victoria Jackson again.)

Love some of Kristin's characters, shoot-myself-in-the-face annoyed by others.

That 1985 season was awesome in retrospect. Randy Quaid as Reagan. That Black Girl. Dennis Miller when he was funny. The Replacements on a show hosted by Harry Dean Stanton. Jon Lovitz.

― http://tinyurl.com/vroooo0ooooom (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:12 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

If memory serves, all of the above sketches were on that Replacements episode. Certainly That Black Girl was. It's fucked up that Danitra Vance wasn't brought back (r.i.p.) And Damon Wayans had his moments. I seem to recall Miller not really finding his footing until the next season, though. I was a fan of his from his Letterman appearance(s?), and was disappointed with how he performed/was used on SNL that first season. Then again, "Today's winning number is pi" was one of those, "Hey, wake up, something on SNL didn't suck!" moments.

is the UK version of SNL any good? (and is there a UK version of Victoria Jackson?)

Did anyone else watch that SNL Backstage thing from a few weeks ago? Damon Wayans was fired pretty much as soon as the show was over one week for using a voice on a character he wasn't authorized to use.

gay cop right?

actually it's more that they think it's Kristen Wiig when it's clearly Kenan Thompson

I think Wiig's screen time has (thankfully) decreased this season. Bill Hader is ahead of her in Best Week Ever's season-cumulative SNL Power Rankings, much of which is based on how central the cast members are in a given week's sketches.

(I did not see snl backstage though)

Hader is fucking hysterical

Actually I think almost everyone on the show this season is fucking hysterical

I think it was during that 85-86 season that a gun popped out of the map of Libya behind Miller and started shooting.

The Roy Orbision Show, El Pato Loco, "The Limits of Imagination"….

Yeah, it was gay cop. xps to will

"and is there a UK version of Victoria Jackson?)"

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2725/4125449931_dd9b759ef2_o.gif

hahaha, sorry, that was totally unfair to bubble.

Bleh. I wonder what Joel's politics are.

― Jesse, Wednesday, March 23, 2011 6:45 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

don't know if this ever got answered but several months ago he and the cinematic titanic crew made a guest-appearance on Countdown with Keith Olbermann. Hodgeson and Olbermann explicitly mentioning being respective fans of each others' work.

Damon Wayans was fired pretty much as soon as the show was over one week for using a voice on a character he wasn't authorized to use.

Lorne Michaels despises improvisation on his show. Which, given Second City yadda yadda, is beyond ironic.

that Weekend Update sketch with Garth and Kat must kill him every time it happens

I think Fred has been in the cast long enough that Lorne probably gives him a little breathing room. Damon had only been on the show for half a year.

hader is a damn genius

I really hope they don't push him into doing too much Stefon. Once more this season should be all.

Love the character, would hate to eventually hate the character.

according to Wikipedia one reason Stefon comes across so fresh (and why 60% of the time Hader is dying while portraying him) is because Hader the first time Hader sees the outlandish shit he's describing in all of these clubs is during the Weekend Update broadcast

Yeah, I saw him say that on a late night interview somewhere (probably Fallon?). The writer he creates Stefon with changes the club descriptions between dress and air so Bill has no idea what he's going to say until he sees it on the cards.

Most remarkable thing about SNL is that even seemingly genius eps still feature their share of clunkers. Sort of like, eh, we ran out of time and did the best we could with that one, but at least the others were good!

Oh man, there could be a whole thread of those "let's fill up the last 5 minutes with something, anything" sketches.

That "Goodnight Saigon" thing still cracks me up, and I haven't watched it since it was first broadcast.

As far as those weird-ass last skits go, I especially love the Tracy Morgan/Maya Rudolf Christmas song skit "I Can Order Anything" where they're winos in a bar and the song is just them naming off exotic mixers and stuff in hilarious drunken voices. I almost think they got drunk before the skit just for verisimilitude...

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=279029

"Driving to the Atlanta airport, I thought about G, my lifelong college friend from Auburn. He drove with me cross country in my 1980 beat-up Toyota Starlet when I went to Hollywood to be an actress. He was the only person who believed in me. He knows all of my sins. I know a few of his. I always tell him I don't believe he is 'gay' – we went on a date once and even kissed. We wrote a screenplay together. He loves drama. I can picture him now laughing, 'Victoria, what are you doing?! Your career! You'll never work again in Hollywood! Oh, but Hollywood loves a scandal!' And, then the twinkle in his eye. I can see my best friend A, who I also tell is not 'gay,' saying in his British accent, 'Victoria, my shiny, shiny friend! I still love you!' and then the big hug!"

ultimately, she's just really fucking pitifully deluded.

For sure, but she's not alone.

I want to know what sort of logical tricks she's working to decide her gay friends aren't really gay. Also, why are they friends with her??

i was about to say, what are these gay men doing encouraging victoria jackson by continuing to speak to her

maybe these interactions would read a lot differently if recounted by the gay friends tbf

"this crazy idiot keeps trying to lean in for the kiss wtf?"

'Victoria, my shiny, shiny friend! I still love you!'

That could be delivered with the acerbic irony that we homos are known for.

the new season of SNL makes me lol 1000 times more than the cheerleader days

― ronan's revenge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:21 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

will ferrell carried the show during that era tho, and there's nobody as consistent right now

― iatee, Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:22 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

people really see "the Will Ferrell era" through rose-colored glasses now, but seriously those years were chock full of Molly Shannon and Chris Kattan and Cheri Oteri and Jim Breuer being excruciatingly annoying, and tbh Ferrell was often just as bad as them. if anything the show benefited more from having the balance of a dependable impressionist like Darrell Hammond.

Basically, the Bible says that homosexuality is a sin," said Jackson, although she later backtracked, saying, "I have gay friends, and we love each other."

she might want to check in with her friends and make still they love each other, it may have been a while since the last time they had an honest talk

people really see "the Will Ferrell era" through rose-colored glasses now, but seriously those years were chock full of Molly Shannon and Chris Kattan and Cheri Oteri and Jim Breuer being excruciatingly annoying, and tbh Ferrell was often just as bad as them. if anything the show benefited more from having the balance of a dependable impressionist like Darrell Hammond.

― NO BLOGS WERE INVOLVED. (some dude), Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:11 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is exactly what i was gonna say - i didn't care for Ferrell at all until his movie career took off

yeah he definitely did some good stuff back then but there were a LOT of cheerleader/roxbury guys sketches, and in general WF movies have better people for him to bounce off of than he had at SNL most of the time.

The "good years" ended after Hartman left and they fired Norm MacDonald.

^ Def. been tenuous post Hartman. But one of the reasons Ferrell era seemed so hit or miss is that so many cast mates reportedly had trouble keeping their shit together around him. Dude can play the crazy straight man like nobodies business.

one of the only SNL skits that made me lol was Ferrel as a dog lawyer (though it was Chris Parnell who made that skit)

will ferrell is super annoying

isnt this universally acknowledged???

I always loved the Ferrell-Oteri Morning Latte sketches.

(though it was Chris Parnell who made that skit)

Especially when he poops in the yard.

I'm the opposite, loved wf on snl, got no patience for his movie career. xps

http://www.hulu.com/watch/61332/saturday-night-live-wade-blasingame

http://www.avclub.com/articles/victoria-jackson-launches-hilarious-parody-of-excr,65339/

Gawker's review: http://m.gawker.com/5860394/politichicks-is-a-conservative-version-of-the-view-from-hell

"Here's the first episode, which features some enlightening discussion about Muslims and gays and gay Muslims and how they're all destroying America and oh god please make it stop."

When "batshit crazy" just won't cut it as a descriptor anymore: "Politichick crazy."

so she was just trolling everyone?

If she's trolling, she's doing it at a level Andy Kaufman never dreamed of.

See her YT vids for more fun

I love the idea of her trolling, but I don't think she is.

she is an important voice that america needs in these dark days.

http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/victoria-jackson-communist-in-the-white-house.jpg

lol

Av club seems to think it's parody!

I think AV Club is being beyond-droll

(xpost) Or is the AV Club article all sarcasm? Or did I just BLOW YOUR MIND?

It just seems like a long SNL skit, but funnier.

"nice ukulele," lady.

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.ch/7/73/Trollface.png

Oneal wrote that Newswire piece, so, yes.

6. “I notice there are mostly white people here. I wonder why there aren't more Cubans, and Venezuelans, Koreans, Vietnamese, Russians, Egyptians, Africans, Pakistanis, Chinese and Colombians. Didn't they come here to escape dictatorships and corrupt governments? Why aren't they worried about this “fundamental transformation” that is making our country look like the one they left? Maybe they don't speak English so they don't watch Glenn Beck.”

wow Victoria Jackson is a moron

my fav part, from what i managed to watch, was when she stated that beheading your wife was now legal in america.

Jesus. Link, please?

Gawker's review: http://m.gawker.com/5860394/politichicks-is-a-conservative-version-of-the-view-from-hell

"Here's the first episode, which features some enlightening discussion about Muslims and gays and gay Muslims and how they're all destroying America and oh god please make it stop."

― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Thursday, November 17, 2011 3:02 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

:53 into that clip and i had to stop it and steel my resolve to go on.

"excuse me, excuse me. can we begin with the islamization of america, because i wrote a song about it?"

THEY LIKE BEHEADINGS -- AND PEDOPHILE WEDDINGS -- AND THEN THEY PREY FIVE TIMES A DAY

sorry, PRAY. PRAY PRAY PRAY PRAY, FIVE TIMES A DAY.

ws the softspoken, raven-haired politichick.

haven't watched much of the clip but, yeah, the other politichicks look kind of hott.

wait, wait i get it now:

• the obama admin. encouraged the building of a mosque on top of ground zero
• muslims build mosques on top of things they conquor

SO SO CLEAR

The next not-Romney? Is it too late?

things in america are worse than i thought. in oklahoma, a man was found innocent of beating his wife because his act was authorized by sharia law and therefore protected by the freedom-of-religion. but christians cannot say "praise jesus" in public because doing so favors christianity and is therefore prohibited under the freedom-of-religion.

victoria jackson says that muslim men are allowed to behead their wives in america, because it is an act of religious freedom. this is terrible.

"not all muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslims" -- blonde asshole on the right.

Wait ... you *can't* actually behead your wife in the U.S.?

Wonder how she feels about Christian Scientists letting their kids die of the fucking flu, etc., all of which is considered legally protected religious practice in a majority of states. OH WAIT I BET THAT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE JEBUS ACTUALLY EXISTS AND YOUR HEATHEN MUD GOD DOESN'T.

i wanna sew her asshole shut and keep feedin her and feedin her

http://i2.listal.com/image/1289793/600full-inland-empire-screenshot.jpg

i almost intentionally choked cuz i don't wanna live anymore after seeing that gif

I was wondering who V Jackson reminded me of, thx

good grief, who is that?

Gary Busey iirc

Wait ... you *can't* actually behead your wife in the U.S.?

― Bon Ivoj (jaymc), Saturday, November 19, 2011

wow. you liberals in your ivory towers. if you are muslim, you are allowed to behead your wife in 38 U.S. states. it's "protected activity" under the freedom-of-religion clause, according to activist judges.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSXhb0kPXLc

if you are muslim, you are allowed to behead your wife in 38 U.S. states. it's "protected activity" under the freedom-of-religion clause, according to activist judges.

― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:45 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

behead her 38 times iirc

that woman could be beheaded in 38 states

post to bump bookmarks

If the thread on SomethingAwful is anything to go by, she's been busy and increasingly unhinged.

link pls, kingfish!

It is really hard for me to watch her, but I sat through a little of her appearance on the Joy Behar show. There, she said 1. She had attended a conference on the topic of the Muslim Brotherhood and "now I'm an expert" (no irony) and 2. Gays should be allowed to marry b/c it makes little children have to think about sex.

No surprises, really, just more idiocy. and she was wearing an ENORMOUS bow on her head. Peppermint striped, iirc.

Always think this is about http://www.victoriajusticefansite.com/Album/Media/Victoria-Justice-white-dress.jpg

Wow. Just...wow.

I can't get past the first page of that. So sad.

It's worth it just for this:

Look, I'm not qualified for this, Victoria recalls thinking. Maybe this is my mission field. I'm supposed to tell my cast members about Jesus!

But Hartman didn't want to talk about the Son of God. And Lovitz asked how Jesus, "a grown man," could have fit in his mother's womb to be born again. When Victoria left audiocassette box sets of the Bible in each castmate's mail slot for Christmas, they were angrily returned.

yeah it's worth reading for sure

she's had a particularly weird, sad life

The piece has showbiz bottom-feeder entertainment value, but I still don't understand why anyone cares about her ravings. (Also, Dennis Miller strikes me as more deserving of contempt, then and now.)

o/t, but this is hilarious to me. those slideshows:

Adult Entertainment Expo 2012
2012 AVN Awards in Vegas
Deadmau5 at Mansion (NSFW)

lol

A Connecticut judge ordered Victoria to pay Nisan alimony of 15 percent of her income, but not less than $3,000 a month, for three years. He also received a portion of the residuals from her films and, less financially momentous, her catalogue of ditties such as "I Am Not a Bimbo" and "I Wanna Be a Slut." (Victoria sells her songs on a self-published CD called Use Me. "Even my friends haven't listened to it," she admits.)

Uh.

Taa-Daaaah! Here's my first CD for adults. Some of these songs I sang on Saturday Night Live and some are brand new. I recorded the album in Woodstock, NY ...so it must be hip.

Songs

I wanna be...
My Purple Cage
Suburbanite
I Am Not A Bimbo
Angry Woman
The Boyfriend Song

Use Me
Ravished
Bimbos In Bikinis
Adultery
I Don't Love You
A Nice Ukulele

To order a CD, just send $20 in check or money order and your address to:

Also:

After the divorce, Victoria reconnected with her former fiancé from Miami, Paul Wessel — who had become a badass Miami-Dade Police SWAT officer. In 1984, according to Paul's personnel file, the tip of his pinkie was shot by his own partner in a firefight with a drug suspect. In 1991, with a single round he killed an Opa-locka man who pointed a revolver at officers. At an inquest, the man's widow beseeched, "Why did they have to shoot him in the heart?" Paul's lethal actions were ruled justified. One year later, he used a shotgun to obliterate a pit bull that was attacking his partner. To date, Paul has been honored with 71 department commendations.

But Paul had a competitor. This potential couple would have been the insane D-list Brangelina. "I kind of had a crush on Weird Al Yankovic," Victoria confesses. "We kind of went on a date, but I don't know if he loved me or not."

doesn't Weird Al also think she's crazy?

Based on the rest of the story, it seems like everyone thinks she's crazy.

Us here in the UK don't know her..

Did she do a poem called "I flip over you" where she does a back somersault? Or was that someone else?

Weird Al not really insane though, afaik, plus he's gotta be higher than D-list.

Looking it up, yeah that's her.

She was on Des O'Connor one time, and the Penn and Teller "Don't try this at home" a few years later.

She's changed a bit it seems.

They've tackled the mystery of Area 51, with Victoria earnestly wondering whether Jesus died for aliens' sins.

The conversation swerves to Obama's chances for re-election. "I think he has a good chance," Victoria says, "because the Latins will vote for him. The illegal aliens will vote for him."

"Illegals can't vote!" her dad interrupts. "How can they?"

Victoria is stumped. "Because... because of cheating."

I am so glad she was never on my radar. It's a sad, weird story. Was she always this flavor of dumb or did she choose to follow in her husband's lunacy?

it at least goes back to when she was on SNL

I kind of get this feeling that she's so light on real analytics that she would be just as dumb if she were attached to a hippy or a commie or a name-your-world-view, like she can parrot what the husband (and talk radio) says but has neither the full cosmology nor the talking points all down pat.

As Victoria gets up to leave, father and daughter continue the list of who will vote for Obama: The liberals. The gays. The Muslims.

Says Jim: "Those who were aborted would if they were alive."

The family bursts into manic laughter. "Jim!" Marlene says. "You made a joke!"

she's married to Vic Mackey?!

Her brother, Jim Jr., one year younger, was too introspective and ruminative for his dad. "We thought he was stupid," Jim Sr. says of his son, who is now a Los Angeles architect.

her ex's website:

http://www.themagicgenie.com/

http://media.miaminewtimes.com/7581011.28.jpg

he's looking this way, she's looking that way, and the dog is like 'what do you want from me?'

Is the dog Spuds Mackenzie out of character?

xp irl lol

Can anyone point me to the Spanish language version of "There's a Communist Living in the White House"?

Jim adds his take on Oprah: "I don't like her because she's fat."

The best part of the article is when Al Franken approached her during her SNL days thinking that her personality was part of an act and kind of turned around and walked away when he determined she actually was that dumb.

The actual quote is great:

Writer and performer Al Franken, now a Democratic U.S. senator for Minnesota, cornered her once, Victoria says. He said he was "offended" by her "ditsy" act. "Maybe I'm overcompensating," she retorted, "because everybody here is dying and going to Hell, and I'm supposed to tell them about Jesus."

Franken went white, she says. "He never talked to me again."

wow that was incredibly strange and sad

coming from her tho, i'm wondering how much is true and how much happened inside her head.

Truthfully, it was probably things more and less dumb than Jesus-isms

i just read that piece and i'm getting more and more convinced this is some ne plus ultra Kaufmanesque shit
because she is really amazing

she is sad and crazy but that article read in part like a hit job -- kind of undeservedly nasty sideswipes at her parents, etc.

I love how she complains about living in Miami, as if there's anywhere else in the country a person like her could thrive.

she made me laugh in the 80s, so i can ignore this nasty thread yall http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

So did Dennis Miller, and he's a dick now

fuck the 80s

her roseanne impression was funny.

Dennis Miller was never funny.

At least VJ and a lefty like Janeane Garofalo can agree that Al Franken is a supreme dick.

You recall the theory that high school girls prefer their girlfriends to be less pretty than themselves, so as to look prettier themselves when standing together? Well, Al Franken has found his own "supreme dick" version of that by becoming a U.S. Senator.

What is Janeane Garofalo's beef w/ Franken?

easily found

basically all SNL male bigshots = dismissive of women on the show

I did some Googling and found nada.

GO TO THE LIBRARY, YOU MONSTER

the SNL oral history book is pretty enlightening, tho garofalo doesn't come off so well either.

actually few ppl come off well, apart from phil hartman.

basically all SNL male bigshots = dismissive of women on the show

IIRC, in the Shales book, Garofalo confirmed a version of this. However, the names named where her costars (Sandler, Farley, Schneider etc.) and the writers paying more attention to creating material for them instead of her.

(x-post)

Another book -- might've been the Shales -- mentioned that in the 70s (and possibly into the 80s) each male cast member had his own dressing room, while all of the female cast members had to share one.

Another book -- might've been the Shales -- mentioned that in the 70s (and possibly into the 80s) each male cast member had his own dressing room, while all of the female cast members had to share one.

Oh no fucking way

I did a searched of the e-book and didn't find JG criticizing Franken by name.

Anyway, Dr M, you're bad at:

- reading
- retaliatory zinging
- life

But pretty good at tattling on me far and wide for calling you hurtful names.

not surprised at all, notoriously sexist boy's club and all that (which pretty much lasted up until the Fey/Poehler/Rudolph era)

xp

by "easily found" I meant for you to go off looking til you fucking die

get a room guys

"I said you fucking die"

christ guys, get a room

― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, October 4, 2011 2:02 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You're right.

Morbs, let's get a room.

― Je55e, Tuesday, October 4, 2011 2:09 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Bring me a rusty blade and plenty of rye bread

― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, October 4, 2011 2:12 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark

(still kind of wonder wtf that means, if you care to explain, lover)

franken's voting record is right on imo

yeah Franken the Senator >>> Franken the comedian

It means Morbius enjoys rye bread.

soaked in the blood of man

it's a fusion of Genet and The Man Who Came to Dinner, prisonbitch

dayummmm, somebody's ILX-archive rainmanning skills are showing the influence of jaymc.

That is like a Joe Mathlete Explains Marmaduke explanation.

xp

And...not much changes

http://wonkette.com/499372/victoria-jackson-just-asking-why-isnt-there-a-white-history-month-is-not-racist#more-499372

This doesn't say where she's moving from, but wherever it is, you owe us:

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20130507/NEWS01/305070045?sf12522347=1&nclick_check=1

Florida, so blame Alfred.

She wrote: “I disappeared for awhile because my family just moved to TN!! I love it so much! Smack dab in the buckle of the Bible belt. I'm gonna fight the Murfreesboro Mosque and Agenda 21 because I love this land, God's country. One of my neighbors keeps his horse in his front yard! I love that! I saw a cardinal, a bunny, a bird's nest and a calf in the middle of the highway. I'm in heaven!”

Though I thought this was more telling:

When asked for contact information for Jackson or for the person who handles her media inquiries, Bob Grabow said he didn't have that memorized and hung up. He later emailed the number of another agency, which didn't immediately return a voicemail.

Tennessee is so beautiful that it is a place I have thought about movie, but now...Victoria Jackson.

I'm gonna fight the Murfreesboro Mosque and Agenda 21 because I love this land, God's country.

she's such a dumb fucking turd.

You probably think freedom is a dumb fucking turd, too.

freedom is Victoria Jackson's dog's name

murfreesboro is not a good place to live but it has nothing to do with the mosque. tennessee is super beautiful. she's not helping.

there's a decent local brewer in Murfreesboro and my SIL lives there

and thus ends my list of things I like about Murfreesboro

If I do end up moving down south (something I have been thinking about for health reasons), it's not going to be Murfreesboro.

the only thing i miss about murfreesboro is Kleer-Vu Lunchroom which is probably in my top three favorite restaurants all time

Every time I go to Murfreesboro, something bad happens. My car has been rear ended, my wallet has been stolen, I've gotten food poisoning. Just last month, the bank put a stop on my check card because of "suspicious activity," never mind the fact I'd been in Nashville all weekend spending just like I usually do. They must know how I feel about Murfreesboro.

Murfreesboro is the place where everybody who ends up making country music in Nashville goes to college, right?

MTSU casts a pretty wide net, but you're partly right. (Belmont, in Nashville itself, would be the other big candidate.)

I lived in Murfreesboro for about a year in the early 90's. I guess it was OK?

NEW: Former SNL cast member and conspiracy theorist Victoria Jackson is teaming up with Moms for Liberty to ban books

While she wouldn’t repeat “goddamn,” Jackson did belt the N-word multiple times throughout a “story time” performancehttps://t.co/HzkRzxCFHa

— Olivia Little (@OliviaLittle) March 24, 2023