Were you involved in college radio?

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and how'd that go for you?

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yes 79
no 21


congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:06 (fourteen years ago)

it was great. I got to tape a lot of records I never would have been able to find otherwise, hang out late at night playing records, etc.

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:07 (fourteen years ago)

i was a DJ for all four years, plus assistant music director my sophomore year and music director my junior and senior years. it was pretty great, considering i went to a somewhat conservative school without a lot of kids who were into independent music, it was a great way to meet like-minded people and things felt pretty tight-knit. i think our programming was fairly adventurous given the environment and the state of college radio in the late 90s. it was also how i met my wife.

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:09 (fourteen years ago)

Had a show the fall of my freshman year before I realized that hardly anybody listened to our campus station, which was barely audible beyond the perimeters of the campus. Each fall I watched the same thing happen: excited first-year students signing up for a show and then drifting away by Christmas. I'm not even sure who ran the place, which was buried deep within the basement of the student union.

(Now of course they've renovated the building and moved the station to a much more public area, and there's actually a window where you can watch the DJ. Not sure if the wattage has increased -- there was a rumor that its FCC license was revoked years ago after a student somehow connected a wire to a nearby railroad track to boost the frequency.)

jaymc, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:20 (fourteen years ago)

I did mostly late night shows. The station had one semi-legendary fan that all the DJs knew who went by the name of "Rodent". He worked the nightshift at a gas station downtown, listened to the station round the clock, called in for requests, occasionally visited the station, had a weird meth-freak/white trash vibe about him, into 80s metal. Rodent would call in all the time, sometimes it seemed like he was the only dude listening.

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:24 (fourteen years ago)

Anyway, the only thing I really remember is that one week I played, back-to-back, Sonic Youth's "The Diamond Sea," Tortoise's "Djed," Polvo's "When Will You Die for the Last Time in My Dreams," and one other 10:00+ track I don't remember and thought I was being clever.

jaymc, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:25 (fourteen years ago)

one semester i had a 6am-9am slot and the program director or whoever had scheduled a ticket giveaway lol. happily one person called.

i was less involved than i should have been -- only did it my senior year and first year out when i was still in the area. it was a pretty exciting time and place for it (early 90s in the nc triangle)

mookieproof, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:29 (fourteen years ago)

Loved it. My show was called The All-Skate Direction. My senior year, it ran from midnight until I felt like shutting down the station. Not much bad college alternative.

James Woods, Hysterical Realism (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:29 (fourteen years ago)

one time I had a morning show and every time I was on, at like 7am, this girl would call in because her alarm was set to the radio station, and she would ask me what the show was called, every week

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:32 (fourteen years ago)

Loved it -- two of the best years of my life. At the time (1998-2000) I has the only post-punk show in the programming schedule. It's weird thinking of a time when in certain markets Gang of Four, Wire, Ultravox, etc were not part of the rotation.

Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:34 (fourteen years ago)

I did like three or four different kinds of shows over the years with different people, had a jazz show where I sang along with any horns, I thought I was being clever

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:34 (fourteen years ago)

some friends had a regular college rock show that morphed into a roving band of bros doing the late night freeform freakout thang, one guy at the controls while the rest fed media into the machines. tons'o'fun, like any improv there were alot of rough spots with 5 things playing at once but a few times each show we'd hit the third mind and reach audio epiphany.

herbal bert (herb albert), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:34 (fourteen years ago)

the station I was on (and I'm guessing most stations) attracted a lot of ~strange~ people, but I made a couple friends there. I mainly just brought people I knew on with me because I didn't think I was as ~strange~ as they were. Probably was tho.

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:39 (fourteen years ago)

I wasn't involved on the music side - although I'm sure I would've enjoyed it - but I tried to start a Kermode & Mayo style film show. We did one and then it finished. I want another shot.

Davek (davek_00), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:41 (fourteen years ago)

fav name of one of my shows was Music Loves Company

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:42 (fourteen years ago)

the politics at our station were INSANE. typical 90s identity-politics stuff: every show must have a theme, a certain percentage of the programming was mandated to center minorities, women, etc. The weirdest result of this to me was that there was one DJ who had a major speech impediment stemming from cerebral palsy, and as a result was nearly impossible to understand. She had some womyn's/world music sorta show.

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:43 (fourteen years ago)

it was like an exceptionally cruel bad Kids in the Hall sketch

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:44 (fourteen years ago)

talking on the radio is overrated anyway

mookieproof, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:48 (fourteen years ago)

did you guys have stations where anyone in the community could have a show, or only students

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:48 (fourteen years ago)

Only students.

Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:49 (fourteen years ago)

ours was pretty much only students, there was one "cool" professor who had a show and my wife stayed on a year after she graduated.

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:50 (fourteen years ago)

i don't know why i put "cool" in quotes, he was actually pretty cool.

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:50 (fourteen years ago)

we were mandated to include a certain percentage of non-student programming. it was kind of a pain for students to get slots, tbh. which is probably why I always ended up with my friends doing midnight-3am

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:50 (fourteen years ago)

mine had community people. but while the students could be clueless newbs (like me), they had to have some knowledge or connection. they were far more likely to do specialty shows on the weekends.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:51 (fourteen years ago)

Our media adviser wanted a show, and at the time we couldn't say no (although now as a media adviser myself I know it's illegal in Florida). It was called "Swingin' Sounds!" He played Glenn Miller, Count Basie, etc.

Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 March 2011 00:00 (fourteen years ago)

Even though my station's hanging by a thread right now--financially, legally, in terms of morale--I'm still doing a show I've been doing since 2005. I also did two years at a different university station in '88 and '89.

clemenza, Thursday, 31 March 2011 00:05 (fourteen years ago)

btw being an adviser of a college radio station at a Florida public university is a huge pain in the ass: fighting off threats from student government, administration, plus negotiating with the FCC and paying rent.

Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 March 2011 00:09 (fourteen years ago)

DJed at KLA at UCLA from 1989 to 1992 and then immediately thereafter at KUCI at UC Irvine from 1992 to 2000 -- and I would probably still be going if it weren't for the fact that I got a bit burned out around 2000 given my workday schedule limiting when I could come in to the weekends -- and then having to spend a lot of time on the weekends getting there and back as well via bus. (Plus my writing was really taking off so I'd found a better medium in the end.)

Essential part of my life, met many wonderful friends through it all, had a blast all twelve years. Allegedly I always possessed this 'great radio voice' but I don't know. I do have a couple of airchecks around...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 March 2011 00:09 (fourteen years ago)

Yes!!!

I had a radio show at the school I went to for the first two years.

It was called the subterranean sideshow and we were on from like 12-2 and then finally 10-12. It was my friend Jodie and I who only did it w/ me cause I said she could play 1 REM song per show. We would get stoned and then order pizza to the studio. We started every show with this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z70jVUTAbo4 lol and it was awesome. Most fun ever.

ENBB, Thursday, 31 March 2011 00:12 (fourteen years ago)

Oh and we had two fans who always called in named Jim and Yogi who were townies and we actually went on a date with them once. To Dunkin Donuts. It was ... not good.

ENBB, Thursday, 31 March 2011 00:12 (fourteen years ago)

Oh and I had a tremendous crush on the director of programming who I thought was so dreamy and then like two years later when he was graduating and I had a bf he professed similar feelings and it was so heartbreaking. Oh man. Youth.

ENBB, Thursday, 31 March 2011 00:14 (fourteen years ago)

But yeah - radio!

ENBB, Thursday, 31 March 2011 00:14 (fourteen years ago)

Alas, our programming directors have usually been the type to wear ill-fitting tight silver pants and orange nail polish -- guys and girls.

Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 March 2011 00:15 (fourteen years ago)

DJ'ed at the Ole Miss student station from 1994 to 1997. A semester-long Frank Zappa show (I wrote a letter to Barfko-Swill and they sent me the entire discography), then two semesters of a "Desert Island Discs" ripoff, then a couple of years of a freeform show. I was staff, not a student; it was very generous of the station managers to let me have the airtime.

The Louvin Spoonful (WmC), Thursday, 31 March 2011 00:15 (fourteen years ago)

Okay some random samples from the past via YSI:

A test snippet for KLA from 1989

A typical KLA aircheck from 1991

And another typical aircheck from KUCI 1993

Also have a slew of interviews I did on the air around but I have other plans for those...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 March 2011 00:22 (fourteen years ago)

DJed at iowa (KRUI - iowa city's sound alternative!) thursday night bar time. one night i played "fun house" and a girl called, asked, "what is this SHIT?" and hung up before i could even say anything. another time a guy who sounded like he was in his forties called and very sincerely profusely thanked me for playing the thinking fellers after sebadoh, like it saved his life or something. never really got to the bottom of that one. another night despite/because of my continuing refusals i kept getting increasingly drunken belligerent calls from frat boys requesting i play "black hole sun." they ended up threatening to come down to the station and jump me after i got off my shift. i guess they passed out before i left because i made it home safe

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 31 March 2011 00:27 (fourteen years ago)

I probably would have done this if I had gone to college in the 80s

iatee, Thursday, 31 March 2011 00:31 (fourteen years ago)

not to be 'that guy' (the one who is always posting poems), but I wrote this last week and dedicated it to 'college radio':

late-night
crunching coffee beans between
our teeth like precious ores
we dug up from the earth
and set to work,
the metal tape and discs of
glowing oil, props for
youthful dreaming,
unalarmed and unsurprising,
tuned to resonate on frequencies
that sung of happenings
beyond our own horizons,
hard to wrap our heads around,
like words we could not
quite pronounce;
tracks relayed and followed paths
to the crises and their afterclaps

bernard snowy, Thursday, 31 March 2011 01:40 (fourteen years ago)

(despite hints of bitterness/cynicism in that poem, I am extremely grateful for wxyc and the many wonderful people and places and things and songs it brought into my orbit during the 2+ years I was seriously involved with it)

bernard snowy, Thursday, 31 March 2011 01:43 (fourteen years ago)

like I think I had basically the platonic ideal of the college radio experience (cocky-wannabe-muso gets schooled by wise-yet-chill elders, forges lasting friendships with other newbies during the prolonged 'apprenticeship' of shared suffering and 3AM shows, gets invited to older DJs' badass parties, falls in love w/ a girl who works at the station, etc etc)
so I can't really complain

bernard snowy, Thursday, 31 March 2011 01:47 (fourteen years ago)

Was part of two half-hour comedy 'pilots' by the humor magazine staff. That never went anywhere, as the station was a musical tastemaker in NYC (or so I presume; you had to live in a dorm to get it downtown).

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 31 March 2011 01:48 (fourteen years ago)

Started the summer of 98, just about the same time I got a job at a sports bar about 4 blocks up the street. This fact would influence my programming choices for years.

Did it pretty much every week or every other week for 5 years, including three after I'd graduated. So completely important to the post-junior year formation of how I became me. Hell, there are still threads on here where I bug people to listen to my show.

Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Thursday, 31 March 2011 03:07 (fourteen years ago)

i loved doing college radio, especially in the middle of the night and regardless of whether i was any good at it (i wasn't, but i had a nice speaking voice and was an OK engineer).

electric milquetoast (get bent), Thursday, 31 March 2011 03:11 (fourteen years ago)

No, because our college radio station was not your typical college station, it was basically a junior version of Q101 (big alt-rock station in Chicago) that stuck to pretty rigid playlists. I tried to get involved as a freshman, but it became very clear early on that unless you were in the right crowd (i.e. the weird strain of journalist students that were also in with the athletes) then you would be stuck doing shit work for 4 years and not even come close to being on the air or doing anything exciting.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 31 March 2011 03:16 (fourteen years ago)

i do community radio in nyc and it's fun to play records and drink beer and hang with friends and stuff but no one really listens. but you do meet some very interesting people.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 31 March 2011 03:21 (fourteen years ago)

during my freshman year I put in some kind of application with the campus station and went down there and talked to someone about it, but it quickly became clear that there was very little freedom to play whatever you want and there were pretty rigid formats and playlists, and that my fantasy of college radio was probably a little unrealistic and antiquated (this was about 10 years ago), so I never really followed through with it.

some dude, Thursday, 31 March 2011 03:31 (fourteen years ago)

I did for a couple of years as an undergrad; like most things in college I didn't take as much advantage of it / didn't take it as seriously as I should have. I shouldn't have been going to school where I was at that time so college was kind of a mess. I had shows but didn't really connect with anyone else there, kind of did my own thing, played a lot of shitty (and some good) music.

Later my wife ended up getting her master's and PhD at the same school and I had a show there as a "student" and it was a lot more fun. My music tastes had gotten a lot broader and I tried to play more interesting things and find more obscure stuff in the library, plus I got to know a lot of the people involved in the station, was on the station staff, and had a good time.

The station was and is pretty great though, or can be if you make it so. No real format or structure, nothing really required in terms of what you had to play, lots of freedom to do what you want. The downside is that there are always a lot of horrible shows and 3rd wave ska-punk soldiers on to this very day uninterrupted.

joygoat, Thursday, 31 March 2011 03:31 (fourteen years ago)

It was the best part of college. My fondest memories happened in that basement space below an abandoned cafeteria.

I've talked about working there once or twice on here, but in general, I very content to leave my experiences there alone. They were that good and I really don't want to bring them out into the cold hard light of the 21st century just yet.

Maybe I'm romanticizing things a bit. No, no, wait. I'm definitely romanticizing things.

Last I heard, the station was playing the hits of Mr. Big.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 31 March 2011 03:32 (fourteen years ago)

I am currently involved in one, and I'll probably keep my show for quite a while post-uni.

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Thursday, 31 March 2011 03:48 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't do much radio in university, except minorly help friends out a few times (and one of my good friends was editor of the station's music paper). But I've been doing a science&culture show (and occasional music show fill-ins) for a few years on a community/university station - it's quite a community in itself and I've met lots of good people through it. I love radio :)

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 31 March 2011 04:03 (fourteen years ago)

did it for a semester and a half. i realized about halfway through the second semester that my show wasn't even scheduled, i had just been coming in late on saturday nights (my usual timeslot) and playing records completely unbeknownst to the station manager.

★ White Castl★ What You Crave ★ (donna rouge), Thursday, 31 March 2011 04:29 (fourteen years ago)

i did have fun even though i'm certain barely anyone listened to me and i didn't really make any friends. at our first group meeting everyone went around and named a record they'd been enjoying a lot lately - someone said "the new britney spears album" as a joke.

now that i work at a radio station (but not behind the microphone) i remember that the actual playing-records-and-twiddling-various-knobs stuff was really fun

★ White Castl★ What You Crave ★ (donna rouge), Thursday, 31 March 2011 04:33 (fourteen years ago)

did it for a year at POWER 88 in Franklin, MA. Sucked the life out of me during the day (had to follow a stupid ass playlist). Sunday nights, I did the "alternative show" from 12am - 2am...best two hours of my week. Then i made some joke about the program director and got canned.

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah! TWO! (thebingo), Thursday, 31 March 2011 13:23 (fourteen years ago)

made radio exciting imo:

http://remote.lohudblogs.com/files/2008/07/brian-austin-green-90210-days.jpg

Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 March 2011 13:26 (fourteen years ago)

I was on the air in various capacities for 3 years, including a daily 6:00am - 9:30am morning show for two years, and was manager of the station my senior year, which led to such fun activities as "fighting with the student senate over budget" and "being involved in a ridiculous frequency switch/wattage increase debacle with another college station." Got to go to the National Assn of College Broadcasters convention in Providence two years. Certainly didn't make a career in radio out of it or anything, but like Shakey, got to record tons and tons of music for myself.

Anti-mist K-Lo (Phil D.), Thursday, 31 March 2011 13:32 (fourteen years ago)

I had a show with one of my friends during my last semester. The stuff I played was mostly indie, and I also played some stuff from St. Anger. Because I was playing a lot of the songs straight off my MacBook, I also tried out stuff like turning on GarageBand while a song was playing, pitch shifting my voice up a few octaves, and adding some reverb so it wounded like I was a chipmunk in space, and then I'd sing the guitar solo to a White Stripes song or something as the song played. I'm sure people appreciated that.

markers, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:05 (fourteen years ago)

*sounded, but perhaps wounded as a verb there is apt

markers, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:06 (fourteen years ago)

I hosted a psychedelic rock specialty show (8 miles High on 88.1) for about six years at the college station.
I host an "eclectic" music show on a community supported station now. It's pretty much an extension of my college radio program.
I am completely addicted to it.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:11 (fourteen years ago)

And there are always people listening.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:12 (fourteen years ago)

I used to do a show in college called "Fun Awesome Guys" (F.A.G.) I DJ'ed about half of it, the rest was debates and political stuff. The one caveat was at the end of every interview the guest had to say into the mic "I'm (insert name here), and I'm a FAG". The whole thing was totally off-the-wall and in the end kind of turned me into a closet Republican (pretty much all the guests we got were obnoxiously liberal). In the end the director had a problem with us and made us tone down a bunch of stuff and change the name (someone let the N-word slip and some people were not happy). We had the last show of the night (9PM-10PM, I think), so we left our "resignation letters" on the desks followed by us leaving the Seinfeld theme on loop all night. Needless to say that was my last radio show.

frogbs, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:19 (fourteen years ago)

wow that sounds... provocative

bernard snowy, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:26 (fourteen years ago)

A "closet Republican" using the N-word and making guests say FAG. Gosh, I can't imagine why anyone would ever have a problem with that.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:33 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.nationalreview.com/images/page_blog_derbradio_r1_c1.gif

Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:34 (fourteen years ago)

No, I was too busy and would rather let someone who had the time do it. I was heavy into the station....WNUR, the queen of college radio!

she must be a really special lady! (u s steel), Thursday, 31 March 2011 15:14 (fourteen years ago)

The university I attend has a transmitter but they aren't active, which takes some color away from the campus. I've been able to catch frequencies of other colleges when I drive past them, though. Makes me kind of jealous.

Simpsons Christmas Boogie (MintIce), Thursday, 31 March 2011 23:42 (fourteen years ago)

I did two shows at my university in Boulder. We had a really strong AM signal that reached Ft. Collins and the entire Denver metro area, but we had to power down at sunset. Before this would happen, I had to do a little speech informing the listeners that we were going to power-down soon.

kate78, Friday, 1 April 2011 00:29 (fourteen years ago)

hung out at the station but didn't have a show, probably would have had one the semester following my dropping out

harrumph. (los blue jeans), Friday, 1 April 2011 01:25 (fourteen years ago)

I was a dj for two semesters; my university's station was classical & jazz only, & you had to stay on a few years to get a jazz show. So I did Sunday morning classical...pop on some 45 minute piece, & do homework. Not the most exciting time.

Euler, Friday, 1 April 2011 01:34 (fourteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:01 (fourteen years ago)

I did a classical show for two years (if memory serves) at WRUR. Sunday late mornings/early afternoons. Loved everything about it except for the obscene request-line phone calls from some poor fellow who eventually moved on.

O for Ona (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 01:53 (fourteen years ago)

did a show called boogie
the entirity of my college experience
played whatever i wanted, it ruled
wvkc!

"Rodent" (jdchurchill), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 02:13 (fourteen years ago)

i was the station manager of my college radio station (after 3 years of working in various capacities), which was more or less internet only and very poorly funded and amateurish. it was the best job on campus, we had a total blast, put on a ton of great shows, made cool t-shirts, etc.

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 02:19 (fourteen years ago)

senior year my girlfriend and i had a show together on friday nights, 7-9, wed bring a six-pack and sometimes a couple friends and get drunk and try to beatmatch on the turntables

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 02:20 (fourteen years ago)

I used to do a show in college called "Fun Awesome Guys" (F.A.G.) I DJ'ed about half of it, the rest was debates and political stuff. The one caveat was at the end of every interview the guest had to say into the mic "I'm (insert name here), and I'm a FAG". The whole thing was totally off-the-wall and in the end kind of turned me into a closet Republican (pretty much all the guests we got were obnoxiously liberal). In the end the director had a problem with us and made us tone down a bunch of stuff and change the name (someone let the N-word slip and some people were not happy). We had the last show of the night (9PM-10PM, I think), so we left our "resignation letters" on the desks followed by us leaving the Seinfeld theme on loop all night. Needless to say that was my last radio show.

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this sounds like a horrible show, we had a couple guys who had shows like this and i probably wasted days of my life in meetings with administrators trying to protect your dumb college bullshit on free-speech ground. a couple years before i started school some guy got his radio show yanked over similar stunts, he sued the school, now i think hes a conservative activist of some kind. weird dude, after he graduated used to IM random freshmen whom hed never met, dad was a porn director iirc.

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 02:25 (fourteen years ago)

man, I had a great time being a DJ on 90.7 KALX in Berkeley. For years I had a midnight to 3 am slot, and it was soooooooo fun to just build up these crazy layers of sound and music. They had three turntables, three CD players, and the board had some pretty cool panning and EQ stuff on it. Good times. I still have lots of old "aircheck" cassettes of my radio shows from 1989 - 1994 or so, and it's weird to hear them now.

the tune is space, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 03:57 (fourteen years ago)

College Radio Programmers Repruzzent

I was a dj and music director at WMUC 88.1 at the University of Maryland. Dj'ing and hanging out and interviewing bands was fun but battling with various types of annoying people (those who wanted the station to emulate commercial radio; those who just wanted to act goofy; conservative administrators) was not.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 04:32 (fourteen years ago)

i'm going to read all of this later, i promise. but during my five or so years of college, i did:

-Yesterday Dream: early morning sad country music
-Don't Knock My Smock or I'll Clean Your Clock: music inspired by drinking and mushrooms, Sat afternoons
-MELTING GLACIERS OF THE SYNAPSES: which still continues when I'm in NYC on Newtown Radio. did this show for five semesters plus a summer or something like that, with one of my best friends, freeform radio experimentalism. so many times i can't remember.
-Hammy Miami: techno beach music, summer style
-Deep Movements: techno and house. almost two years of this one. weekday nights.
-and one more that i can't remember the name of, but involved playing tons of booty rap and reading posts from this anonymous 'confessional' board at my college in funny voices.

i was also freeform director and electronic director, and finally, was station manager (head honcho or whatever) for all of 2006.

i miss it. obviously.

bun fun times infinity (the table is the table), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 08:18 (fourteen years ago)

oh yeah, i was at WOBC, Oberlin College & Community Radio, 91.7 FM on your radio dial.

bun fun times infinity (the table is the table), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 08:23 (fourteen years ago)

Couple years ago helped out with the Grassroots Show, KBGA Missoula - was fun but realized I'm not one for radio

orchard, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 11:50 (fourteen years ago)

oh yeah, i was at WOBC, Oberlin College & Community Radio, 91.7 FM on your radio dial.

Hahaha, oh man, I mentioned upthread my experience as station manager involved "being involved in a ridiculous frequency switch/wattage increase debacle with another college station." YOU WERE THE OTHER STATION. Mine was WBWC 88.3 FM at Baldwin-Wallace College. This was before your time, back in 1994.

Anti-mist K-Lo (Phil D.), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 13:07 (fourteen years ago)

Phil! A BW grad! I knew I liked you!

kate78, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 13:12 (fourteen years ago)

this sounds like a horrible show, we had a couple guys who had shows like this and i probably wasted days of my life in meetings with administrators trying to protect your dumb college bullshit on free-speech ground. a couple years before i started school some guy got his radio show yanked over similar stunts, he sued the school, now i think hes a conservative activist of some kind. weird dude, after he graduated used to IM random freshmen whom hed never met, dad was a porn director iirc.

I dunno about that. For the record we got way more calls and emails than any other show they had. Not everyone hated us. It wasn't like we antagonized guests or were being openly hateful or racist. I thought a lot of our talking points made a lot of sense. Yeah in the end we're pranksters and we probably deserved a punch in the back, but come on, "dumb college bullshit" is taking it a little too far. My Dad works for the city!

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 13:35 (fourteen years ago)

Go Yellowjackets!! xp

Anti-mist K-Lo (Phil D.), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 13:48 (fourteen years ago)

It wasn't like we antagonized guests or were being openly hateful or racist

addition of 'openly' not really redeeming this part

your LiveJournal experience (schlump), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 14:03 (fourteen years ago)

shhhh..dont tell anyone but open me up and all you'll find is race hate

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 14:17 (fourteen years ago)

Kate, Boulder's station is excellent. Love that AM sound.

don't smurf (u s steel), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 14:19 (fourteen years ago)

did a show for three years, 87-90/freshman - junior year, solo the first year and with a friend for the next two

while nobody off campus could even receive the signal had a blast doing it, going through all the records, reading comments former djs had left on stuff, being exposed to a lot of stuff

tho my friend jon and i enjoyed a lot of the same stuff there were enuf differences that it was fun ofr us (and hopefully listening) doing the whole tagteam stuff, he was much more in 4AD and waxtrax stuff than me while i was more all over the place from punk to funk to jazz

H in Addis, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

xpost yeah 1190 rulez.

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 16:13 (fourteen years ago)

only been in a college radio station once while visiting a friend at b4rd, who had a show. we had a on-air banana deep-throat contest, which i won. congratulations to me.

tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 16:15 (fourteen years ago)

i dj-ed for wvkr in the hudson valley during my college years. i had a new music show, which ended up being a bad idea, because all i wanted to do was raid the vinyl stacks and play old stuff. best times, weirdly enough were the really early hours, doing 2-4am shifts, just because you felt like you were the only person alive, and then you'd get a call from some weirdo saying "DUDE CAN YOU PLAY SOME YES". And I'd play some Yes.

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 16:16 (fourteen years ago)

that's weird...we got that too!! we got a few calls and emails (maybe all from the same person) who was always requesting Yes!

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

I dj'ed for a few years in the early 90's at KBVR in Corvallis, Oregon. I also did some program directing for some of the formats. At the time the station was staunchly independent. There was a big debate whether or not they would allow anyone to play "Nevermind' since Nirvana had "sold out."

I also remember many road trips taking promo CDs and vinyl we didn't want/need to record stores to sell them for stuff we did want. I remember a clerk commenting as he went through the bags and bags of CDs: "You know, there are just not enough bands in the world."

righteousmaelstrom, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

why late at night in the u.s. does college radio get all yessed out

jaymc, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:41 (fourteen years ago)

haha, it just feels right, I guess?

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

sorry calling your show "fags" is dumb college bullshit

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

yup

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

I hate all of you who had a signal that anyone could really hear

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

so nothing we said could have any value, right?

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

keep posting

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:52 (fourteen years ago)

college radio is pretty magical when i think about it. i grew up listening to kxlu in the LA area, and there was so much weird/wonderful stuff.

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:52 (fourteen years ago)

(sorry just musing to myself here -- carry on with the bickering!)

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:53 (fourteen years ago)

no one has ever said anything of value on college radio

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

the "fags" thing just reeks of straight privilege, as if the very idea of somebody being gay (snicker, titter) is just so godamman hilarious that the joke is airtight and perfect- it's the kind of self-serving "I dare to break wtih political correctness, I'm sooooo brave, anyone who is offended is a square" rightwing crap that perfectly epitomizes arrogant entitled shitheels of a certain socioeconomic bracket- the recent rash of undergraduate queer youth suicides among highschool and college kids is a perfect index of why such humor ultimately reinforces a fucked up dynamic with tragic consequences- you have NOTHING to be proud of, dude

the tune is space, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

that's why you're supposed to play music
xpost

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

kxlu is still pretty great

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:56 (fourteen years ago)

I mean its a free form college radio station whose signal strength allows it to cover quite a bit of a very large city so kudos

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

no one has ever said anything of value on college radio

― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, April 6, 2011 1:55 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

Not true, a caller to a public-affairs program on my station once referred to "Janet Reno's clit" but I was able to hit the dump button on the 10-second delay before it went over the air so

Anti-mist K-Lo (Phil D.), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 18:04 (fourteen years ago)

first of all, i'm hardly the first person to make a gay joke, which this really isn't
secondly, one of my co-hosts wasn't straight, so the idea that this was "straight priviledge" is bullshit
thirdly, we never really claimed to be brave or particularly hilarious (or rightwing)
fourthly, I don't know why you feel the need to bring my economic status into it when you have no idea how I grew up

it's not like we actively made fun of gays the way so many other radio programs or television shows do on a regular basis. it's a dumb joke but the idea was that it kind of disarms people in a way. it made the debates so much more better (for us) when you start and end on the wrong foot. we didn't WANT to be right about everything.

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 18:09 (fourteen years ago)

Janet Reno's clit

a queercore band

Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 18:09 (fourteen years ago)

we didn't WANT to be right about everything.

or left, apparently

Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 18:10 (fourteen years ago)

Did it, loved it, musical tastes are still paying for it.

Frightening, but full of facts that are difficult to argue with. (dan m), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 18:14 (fourteen years ago)

I can imagine a gay college show being called "fags" but I imagine they'd face protests anyway and a visit from administration.

welcome to stalinois (u s steel), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

I was a DJ for one semester at my university. Had a four-hour show on Sunday nights. But I never had any real interest in DJing; rather, I had an ulterior motive to join up.

One day the campus radio station had an open house, and I decided to go. We toured the studio, and briefly the entirety of their digs. Mostly dull stuff, but one part had me entranced - they walked us by their record collection. This was a few years before downloadable music and online CD sales, so finding obscure music meant trolling record shows, shady mail order firms, and indie and/or used record stores. And suddenly here I was, surrounded by roomfuls of walls of records on shelves stacked to the ceiling, decades of records sent from the record labels in hopes of airplay, none of them for sale which meant nearly everything released since the late 1950s was there. They were neatly in alphabetical order, so I searched for a few impossible-to-find obscurities as I walked through. They were all there. I had to get a job here! I had no desire to man the radio waves, I just wanted access to their record collection so I could tape my long-searched-for faves.

About 30 people showed up for the audition. I was one of about 4 that were selected. I must have learned something on the job, since several complete strangers over the years since have stopped me after hearing me, say, order a meal at a restaurant, and asked if I was in radio.

Lee626, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

i dont know about the content of your radio show or anything but calling your radio talk show "fags" and making people say "im a fag" is like... it would be hard to find something that was closer to the platonic ideal of dumb college bullshit.

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 20:18 (fourteen years ago)

xpost yeah it's weird, i was at my station just before the whole mp3 revolution. the station was pretty hardline about no music being removed from the premises (unless someone was reviewing a new CD) so there were so many things I wished i could take and tape, but had no way of doing it. right after i graduated, i'm sure everyone was just bringing in their laptops and loading up on music.

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 20:19 (fourteen years ago)

xp yeah and people judging the show without ever having heard it was kind of what we got off on. I think it led to us getting some interesting guests

BTW it wouldn't be that hard. you just have to think a little more.

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 20:24 (fourteen years ago)

I was at KXLU for 2 years, probably the most significant moment was when we "broke" Beck a good 18 months before MTV.

My personal high-water mark was having Boredoms perform Super AE material live for the first time outside of Japan on my show, the shift in the band's sound was pretty legendary.

It's a good station, I hope they last.

City of Jorts (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 20:33 (fourteen years ago)

ha, yeah, i totally heard beck for the first time on kxlu! and then there was something about him in the LA Reader and then the rest is history. magical times.

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 20:35 (fourteen years ago)

If you guys remember further... I believe sales of their first single on Bongload went to the financing the original pressing of "Loser".

City of Jorts (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

i saw one of his first shows. he was opening! for the treepeople (dug's pre-Built2Spill band) and further. i think "the reverend bud green" was also on the bill. it was at a downstairs bar in midtown LA (?) which closed after the 94 northridge quake. he covered BS's the wizard and his finale was blowing a bag of leaves with a leaf blower all over the stage... brief footage of which ended up in the Loser video. i thought it was kinda LOL, had no idea he would mainline into the zeitgeist of Alternative Nation within a few years... muchless have a record released 10 years later that ILM would deem "great". also he had yet to convert to scientology and he was much weirder before the e-meter took over, my dear thetans.

― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Friday, May 14, 2010 2:30 PM (10 months ago)

City of Jorts (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

frogbs, guess what? no one cares. your show sounds like it sucked for all of the reasons mention by previous posters. please stop trying to defend yourself, as it only makes you seem more shitty.

Phil D., to be perfectly honest, i don't even know where BWC is. oh wait, it's in Berea? why the fuck would there be a college in Berea? (sorry, i'm not trying to be insulting, i'm just actually astounded. Berea always seemed chi-chi stripmall to me, was i in the 'wrong' parts or something?)

bun fun times infinity (the table is the table), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 21:21 (fourteen years ago)

i really don't give a shit what you think about me but telling someone to stop defending themselves when people attack them is kind of low

if only there was a hidden forum where you could judge in peace

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 21:26 (fourteen years ago)

you don't really seem fun or awesome at all tbh

tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 21:30 (fourteen years ago)

you're a guy tho i'll give you that

tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 21:34 (fourteen years ago)

thanks elmo

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 21:37 (fourteen years ago)

i was at my station just before the whole mp3 revolution. the station was pretty hardline about no music being removed from the premises

So was mine. But I was a bad boy, and snuck some LPs into my backpack some nights (there was hardly anyone else in the studio on sunday nights). I was careful though and never broke one.

The only thing I couldn't figure out how to copy were those "carts" that were ubiquitous until the late '90s when digital finally took over (these were sort of like a pro version of 8-track cartridges, a continuous loop of tape). They were used for some songs, but mostly for adverts and those short radio-station jingles that seemed to have not changed since the 1970s, and were frickinhilarious.

Lee626, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 21:48 (fourteen years ago)

yeah we had some great old carts. i assume those no longer exist. they seemed super-archaic even in the late 90s.

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 21:49 (fourteen years ago)

The only cart I ever played on my show had Kraftwerk's "The Model," which gave the song an otherdimensional aural.

Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 21:50 (fourteen years ago)

*aura. Haha -- maybe aural too.

Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 21:51 (fourteen years ago)

Actually, now that I've jogged my memory some, I recall being given lots of leeway as to what songs I played; all the management was very strict about was playing the right advertisements at the right times, and logging them correctly. That was their source of income. The radio station was piped into the student union and a few other campus buildings, so it's not like anyone could veto my choice of music if they didn't like it.

Lee626, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 22:07 (fourteen years ago)

i think that the other thing that happened with the advent of the internet was the ability to do webcasts. wobc has had a webcast since i was a student there, at least. like, i used to get calls and IMs from Austria and England and stuff. it was weird.

homosexual fecal matter sodomy will be the law (the table is the table), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 22:10 (fourteen years ago)

I wouldn't listen to the straight priviledge guys radio show

colby, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 22:16 (fourteen years ago)

He shouldn't feel need to defend himself tho

colby, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 22:18 (fourteen years ago)

i got a request to play the cure, once

Sittin' Fran (donna rouge), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 22:28 (fourteen years ago)

Phil D., to be perfectly honest, i don't even know where BWC is. oh wait, it's in Berea? why the fuck would there be a college in Berea? (sorry, i'm not trying to be insulting, i'm just actually astounded. Berea always seemed chi-chi stripmall to me, was i in the 'wrong' parts or something?)

It certainly wasn't "chi chi stripmall" when I was there -- there was the K-Mart down Bagley Rd near I-71 and, uh . . . that's really about it. The B-W campus is right in the middle of the older residential part of town, and just a short hop from the Rocky River Reservation of the Cleveland Metroparks. Anyway, it's one of the older colleges in the state (1845), and has a world-renowned music conservatory. Surprised you wouldn't have heard of it, going to school in Ohio.

Anti-mist K-Lo (Phil D.), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 22:56 (fourteen years ago)

Maybe you're thinking of Strongsville, which borders Berea on the east and south and is very much strip-mall-y. And actually mall-y now, with some gigantic monstrosity of a mall there.

Anti-mist K-Lo (Phil D.), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 22:57 (fourteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 23:01 (fourteen years ago)

Exactly 100 people voted. That seems somehow noteworthy.

Ramen Noodles & Ketchup (R Baez), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 23:05 (fourteen years ago)

oh man I was a DJ pretty much JUST BECAUSE it gave me an opportunity to raid the stacks and tape stuff. Things I got that were otherwise completely unavailable at the time:
Big Star - 3rd/Sister Lovers
Beastie Boys - An Evening at Home With Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego and Love American Style EPs
Neil Young - Journey Through the Past (sdtk), Time Fades Away (but NOT On the Beach! arrgh)
a bunch of other stuff I'm blanking on right now

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 23:05 (fourteen years ago)

oh Wattstax: The Living Word

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 23:06 (fourteen years ago)

i think that might another big change in college radio; it used to be the easiest way to have that quintessential college experience of learning about your own music tastes by listening to lots of different obscure stuff you'd only heard about and figuring out what you liked and what you didn't and why. i guess i was on napster by my sophomore year but still if i wanted to hear albert ayler and figure out if i was an avante-garde jazz guy or get into photek to see if i was an electronic music kind of guy, the easiest place to do it was the college radio station. now that's not really necessary since you can DL all that stuff easily.

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 23:25 (fourteen years ago)

Oh man carts - we had those for PSAs and liners and sometimes for edited versions of songs that got played constantly. Like Op Ivy's Sound System which got played a couple times a day for some reason.

I swear my music taste got shittier and narrower when I was doing shows the first time around.

joygoat, Thursday, 7 April 2011 00:55 (fourteen years ago)

Phil D., I'd heard of Baldwin-Wallace, but tbh, the only connection Oberlin had to it was through sports, and during college, I was a drug-addled music obsessive who couldn't have cared less. and now that i'm looking at a map, i realize that i HAVE been in a nice part of Berea. i took a lovely walk in a part there once while waiting for a friend's flight to get in. sorry to be so dismissive. ha.

n/a, trust when i say that we were still mining the record and CD vaults for shit in the early to mid-2000s. i feel like that might be happening less and less now, as it seemed the younger DJs were almost exclusively using their computers by the time i left, but man, if it hadn't been for those World music or 80s pop/r&b vaults, i would have a much less awesome music collection.

homosexual fecal matter sodomy will be the law (the table is the table), Thursday, 7 April 2011 01:04 (fourteen years ago)

(not that i stole them, i was a vicious digitizer)

homosexual fecal matter sodomy will be the law (the table is the table), Thursday, 7 April 2011 01:06 (fourteen years ago)

how did I miss this thread? oh yeah, I'm in another country.

I STILL do college radio at age 44, one of the lone community member holdouts.

started on a community cable FM station in '84, then did the 90's on a station that is technically part of the local high school district. moved to University of Oregon's KWVA in '98, still there.

everybody who talks about how great it is to be able to increase yr collection is OTM, I probably have 300-400 CDRs at this point. many of them have since been stolen.

sleeve, Thursday, 7 April 2011 01:41 (fourteen years ago)

Maybe you're thinking of Strongsville, which borders Berea on the east and south and is very much strip-mall-y. And actually mall-y now, with some gigantic monstrosity of a mall there.

Or Middleburgh Heights, which lies between Berea and I-71. Strongsville only got that way recently. I think Berea is one of the nicest west side suburbs. My parents met at BW and I studied violin at the conservatory when I was a kid.

xpost

kate78, Thursday, 7 April 2011 01:45 (fourteen years ago)

xp hey awesome! i just discovered KWVA a few weeks ago (and i've lived here for six years now, lol shame). if you don't mind saying, which show do you do?

burn me at the stake if you must (reddening), Thursday, 7 April 2011 01:47 (fourteen years ago)

hey that's cool! I recognize your username but didn´t know you were in Eugene. I am in Peru for the month but we should FAP after I return on the 27th.

I am (no surprise) DJ Sleeve, Mondays 4-6 PM.

sleeve, Thursday, 7 April 2011 15:53 (fourteen years ago)

I hung out at the station/regularly attended music meetings/was pals w all the DJs/guested on my friend's show a bunch of times but never actually got my own show myself, even though I'd already come up with a name ("Blood on the Microphone") and I'd trained + attempted to do my demo tape 2 or 3x; I still voted "yes" bcz IMO I was somewhat involved.

And I know I'm a little late to this frogbs thing, but as the tune in space pointed out, your humor comes from the fact that it is undesirable or funny to be called as a "fag". I mean, obviously it wouldn't be funny if it was something innocuous. Also, it's very reductive to just say "oh we were doing it to be offensive or shocking and that's why it's funny" without actually trying to dissect it and consider why it's "funny", which we are attempting to do for you. I mean, I'm gay, and it sort of bums me out when people are like "Let's laugh at the idea that someone might be gay". Also, we are not some huge monolithic entity; just because one of your co-hosts was queer, it doesn't mean I and a bunch of other's don't have a right to find this tasteless or offensive or homophobic.

ToeJam & Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 7 April 2011 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

The reason "why" it was funny had a lot more to do with it just being a terrible name for a show. Like naming your band "Holy Fuck" or "Gay Dad" or something. I admit that making the guests say it is taking it too far, and of course a number of them sort of got away from it, but yeah I know why that's offensive, just saying it's not really that big of a deal and definitely was not what led to us getting in trouble, and now that I'm nearly 25 I probably wouldn't do that today. But fuck my ass I loved doing that show

frogbs, Thursday, 7 April 2011 16:47 (fourteen years ago)

in the future i would just lie to people about what the name of the show was

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Thursday, 7 April 2011 16:49 (fourteen years ago)

But fuck my ass I loved doing that show

so is this you trying to be "ironic" or...?

ToeJam & Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 7 April 2011 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

"nearly 25" is surely the threshold of wise old age, yes

tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 7 April 2011 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

oh yeah, my show was called "rebellious jukebox" lol

Sittin' Fran (donna rouge), Thursday, 7 April 2011 17:21 (fourteen years ago)

I kind of want to rent frogbs a backhoe to make it a little easier to dig that hole deeper.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 April 2011 17:23 (fourteen years ago)

max/gods of college radio,

i once played boredoms - noise ramones on my radio show as an april fools prank

i'm sorry

yrs,

-dj flops1

flopson, Thursday, 7 April 2011 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

wait isn't that just like 30 seconds long?

the first track off Super Ae would be pretty entertaining if you could see the responses of your listeners

of course you probably wouldn't have any after about 5 minutes

frogbs, Thursday, 7 April 2011 17:30 (fourteen years ago)


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