Coppola post-Apocalypse Now

oof

this is kinda like choosing a kickball team from a herd of fat kids

cotton club is the prince fielder of this lot, probably

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR-zwvvjMmA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

godfather III better not get a single vote. if it does, i demand identities so I can SB without abandon

weird weird movie

Also, Jim Carrey!

Errr x-post

peggy sue or uh dracula, but jesus what a shit show.

i didn't even really like his Dracula.

it gets a sympathy vote for tom waits

his dracula is hilariously terrible. gary oldman is kind of dreamy, though.

Tom Wait was neato

all i remember about dracula was oldman introducing himself as "my name is dracooool" iirc

honestly that movie checked out the moment Keanu opened his mouth.

wow he seriously did "jack"???????? good christ

this is like a pitcher being mvp four times in the 70s and then spending the next 20 years cranked out and puking into the gatorade barrel between innings.

Jack being the Robin Williams film?????

maybe i made this up, but around the time jack came out i read an interview with coppola, and the journalist kind of gently pointed out that jack was not well-regarded and coppola blamed the fact that he seemed adrift as a director on the fact that the world was not producing interesting enough subjects for his movies anymore. it still pisses me off to think of that today.

francis ford crapola more like

xpost lol yea good thing crime evaporated for that brief period in the 90's, Cop

john cazale died just so he wouldnt have to see this poll

it was just such a shitty thing to say. like, martin scorcese has made a lot of bad movies but he never seems bored or to run out of things to get interested in.

tucker over outsiders i guess, his segment of ny stories is really abysmal

the only one of these I saw was 'jack'

I was a kid at the time

rainmaker was enjoyable enough also i guess? probably in my top ten grisham adaptations

voting 'jack'

yeah rainmaker is not bad

especially considering it's a grisham adaptation

oh wait I've seen that too

maybe coppola just needed a dicaprio grade muse

i guess in this horribly boring world we live in where Francis Ford Coppola can probably make any movie he wants, it's a good thing john grisham is around providing material.

even pre-dicaprio scorcese made a ton of kind of offbeat-for-him movies, like kundun and age of innocence. those movies are bad, but scorcese seems like a dude of varied interests.

he's dedicated himself to making inferior wine and spawning inferior filmmakers

yeah i guess wine is his thing

but he didn't have to make jack!

it was all the world gave to him!

everybody else was making Home Alone spinoff sequels

wow harvell the wine snob

i have no idea the quality of his wine actually. i'm drinking bottom shelf vodka in convenience store lemonade.

SORRY FRANCIS

i'm sure tucker is not bad (i've heard good things) but i never saw it, maybe b/c the title made it sound like a 7th grader's essay.

the wine is deece... nothing to get to excited about but better than your typical grocery store selection.

strongo never apologize, never look back

the cotton club is actually really good imo, awesome performances to be found and a better scene revolving around a watch than the one in pulp fiction.

I think he's said Jack was one of the movies he did to pay off One From The Heart, but he says that about a lot of things.

Diane Lane in the Cotton Club is pretty ace. She's in a bunch of these films now that I think about it.

yeah she's in the outsiders, along w/ melanie meyrink

When I was in college, I had a chance to meet Robert Redford, and someone was nice enough to tell him I was the only one there who had seen "Quiz Show."

"So, what did you think?" he asked.

"Did you see 'Tucker?'" I asked back.

"No."

"Oh. I thought it was kind of like 'Tucker.'"

Still not sure if I meant that as a compliment or diss, but I seem to recall Tucker being good, or at the very least featuring another good Jeff Bridges performance.

Hammett should be on the list, not that it's so great but at least it's an "interesting" failure

This period may be more underrated than Spielberg post-Private Ryan.

As far as I'm aware, Jack is the only out-and-out terrrrrrrrrrrrrible movie here.

rainmaker was enjoyable enough also i guess? probably in my top ten grisham adaptations

That might be the faintest praise with which one could damn a movie. Aside from maybe "probably in my top twenty Dean Koontz adaptations".

I'll vote for either One from the Heart or Tetro probably.

Both of which are better than The Godfather Part II ffs.

grisham > dean koontz

Dracula. I haven't seen four of them, including the two biggest spectacles. I hope Tiger Woods has a better post-prodigy career. I had to look up "ffs" to translate Eric H.'s x-post. I was hoping it stood for "But I realize I'm the only person on earth who believes this," but no luck.

Deliberate gadflying ffs. But I definitely think the first Godfather is much much much much much much more enjoyable than Part Boring.

i believed this about the Godfather II once in my life. then I figured out the DVD had to be in the player before hitting play.

grisham > dean koontz

this is some opinion to have

i cant in good conscience vote for any of the movies that ive seen from this list

grisham > dean koontz

I'll accept that (wouldn't know either way, aside from the abysmal Koontz book I tried to read once), but the point was more: what are your top ten Grisham adaptations, and how bad does a movie have to be to fall outside of that top ten?

xxp There are some parts that aren't boring too, obv. That's why Toshiba invented chapter forward buttons I guess.

I go back and forth--love them both. I was with Tetro for the first half, then I thought it went off the rails. And the younger brother's resemblance to Leonardo DiCaprio was a major distraction for me.

It was a major turn on for me.

Anyway, we both named Nashville as one of our three favourite films. We must not break the peace that we have made here today.

coppola's dracula >> herzog's nosferatu

only seen stills of rumble fish ... No good.

er that should have read "no good??"

i really liked tetro. his best since rumble fish i think

voting for dracula cuz it's enjoyably bad and i'm a horror geek, but i don't like any of the films on this list. remember thinking that the cotton club was decent, but don't have much interest in revisiting it to make sure. have been curious about the last couple, especially tetro.

didn't realise Rumble Fish was so hated, anyway it wins easy for me

Tucker (easily one of his three best films) followed by Peggy Sue followed by Godfather III

Loved Tetro, followed by Peggy Sue and Tucker.

and, yeah, The Rainmaker (and Altman's Gingerbread Man) are good 'uns.

I like Tetro quite a bit.

voted tucker, which almost seems to be a lost and forgotten film.

i prefer rumble fish to any of his other films (apocalypse possibly excepted).

Peggy Sue Got Married the only movie I straight-up love on this list, altho I should probably revisit the Outsiders.

voted Jack

lol

it's weird that he even bothers to make movies at all, it seems kind of obvious that he has no interest in the medium and hasn't for some time (unlike Scorcese)

his New York Stories entry is abominable

I guess I should see Tetro tho, I do enjoy Vincent Gallo hamming it up

http://www.renaud-bray.com/ImagesEditeurs/PG/594/594082-gf.jpg

rainmaker is pretty fun

dracula is a 'bad' movie but i cant get enough of the visuals and the atmosphere. some of those costumes are outta this world! and it has some really cool old-school special effects work if you're into that kind of thing (i am):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8NXzAEo5RM

Robin Williams IS Kevin Smith

dracula is def not "good" but still awesome

The movie begins with Karen Powell (Diane Lane) going into labor during a Halloween party and being rushed to the hospital by her husband, Brian (Brian Kerwin), and their friends. Although the delivery is successful, the baby is premature, born after only ten weeks of pregnancy, and is diagnosed with an exaggerated form of Werner syndrome (an aging disease) as stated by Dr. Benfante (Allan Rich) and Dr. Lin (Keone Young). According to them, as this very rare autosomal recessive disorder progresses, Jack Powell will age at a rate four times faster than normal children due to his internal clock that seems to be developing faster.

Ten years later, Jack (Robin Williams) is next seen as a 10-year-old boy in the body of a 40-year-old man, with a group of four boys telling possible stories of a "monstrosity" of a boy their age that cannot go to school. He scares them away by dipping a fake eye into slime and throwing it at them from his window. He is extremely childish as a consequence of his secluded life. He has only had contact with his parents and tutor, Lawrence Woodruff (Bill Cosby), who introduces the idea that he should go to public school. His parents initially balk at the idea of their son going there because he could be emotionally hurt.

When he first attends school, he is exploited by the other kids to win at basketball against bullies, and eventually to get adult magazines and other such items. As time goes by, he is accepted by them, beginning with Louis, as they discover that they like him. He attempts to be normal there, for example, when he deals with his first crush and heartbreak, and the relationship with his teacher, Miss Marquez (Jennifer Lopez). When he goes through a fall while attempting to leave school, he is rushed over to the hospital, where his doctor explains that he had suffered a shocking severe strain and also because of his Werner Syndrome condition, his internal clock is starting to run out. Realizing the dangers it might entail for his health, his parents decide to withdraw him from school, which upsets him.

He sneaks out of the house and goes to a bar where he gets drunk. He gets into a fight with an angry man (Edward Lynch) and gets arrested. Yet he is bailed out by Dolores, Louis' mother (Fran Drescher). When he returns home, he locks himself in his room and doesn't go out for weeks. His mother speculates that perhaps he realized the fragility of his life and is now scared of facing the outside world again. He also doubts the need to studying as he realizes that he wouldn't have the time to use any of the knowledge.

Meanwhile, his friends keep coming to his house, hoping that he would come out and play, but he refuses. Finally, Louis has an idea: he brings the entire class to Jack's house as they take turns yelling "Can Jack come out and play?" and participate in various games and fun activities right in front of the house. The next day he decides to go back to school.

Some years later, an elderly looking Jack and his four best friends are at their high school graduation. He delivers the valedictory speech, in which he reminds his classmates that life is short, and urges them to "make your life spectacular", as the five drive down the road and into their future lives.

Some years later, an elderly looking Jack and his four best friends are at their high school graduation. He delivers the valedictory speech, in which he reminds his classmates that life is short, and urges them to "seize the day", as the five drive down the road and into their future lives.

bleurgh

wait, wouldn't his body think it was like 180 years old by the time he graduated from high school

lol Jack.

Despite my love for Gary O, I don't think I've ever actually seen Dracula.

lol I can't read, never mind

Jack: Mom, am I a giant?

dracula is def not "good" but still awesome

^^^otm there's a lot of enjoyable things about it but it is just ridiculous and doesn't work on a basic level. I always lol at the old-school overlay of Oldman's eyes watching them on the train through the countryside or whatever

xp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf0m_YmQSOA

godfather 3 might actually be the /best/ movie here

I saw "The Cotton Club" once about a bazillion years ago but liked it at the time

Continuity: Jack tells his class that his birthday is on September 12, but his parents were at a Halloween party the night he was born.

godfather 3 is close to being in the same 'bad but awesome' category as dracula - many lols to be found in that movie. i watched an interview with robert duvall last year where they asked if he regretted not doing part 3, and he was just like "heh. no."

i totally love coppola's dracula movie and i hope it smokes all the other shit on this poll

Coppola has stated that the films he made during the rest of the 1980s and most of the 1990s, such as The Outsiders, The Cotton Club, The Godfather, Part III, Jack and The Rainmaker, were done to pay off the debts incurred by the production of One from the Heart.

lol

one of the AV Club doofs (Tobias?) repped hard for One from the Heart; I really want to see it...

it seems kind of obvious that he has no interest in the medium and hasn't for some time (unlike Scorcese)

Not a lover of Tetro, but give me the "interest in the medium" it displays over Shutter Island's any day.

OMG that video clip. Jack would be a spectacular movie if an old man with a hands-free mic introduced every scene.

it's... interesting. really pretty and unique looking but not very engaging

*I use the term 'doof' affectionately of course...

I haven't seen Shutter Island and don't plan to

no interest in the medium?

lol

no interest in Lenny D

I think I've pretty much regretted watching every movie I've seen with him in it

you regretted "What's Eating Gilbert Grape?"?

(lol)

did we ever find out what was eating him?

It wasn't the obese mom?

top guesses:

rodents infected with hantavirus
dennis cooper
the basic gnawing regrets of life

kate winslet

think you got that one reversed

hmm, would love to hear what peggy sue defenders like about it -- i found it pretty unwatchable.
out of the ones i've seen here, i'd probably vote for tucker or dracula? dracula just for the vibe, which is totally over the top but in a fun way.

outsiders and rumblefish r both straight classic looks into the heart of juvenile delinquency

btw the title is Bram Stoker's Dracula (which it's not)

btw the title shoulda been winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night

what do I like about Peggy Sue... pretty much every scene with Nicolas Cage in doowop greaser mode, his line readings are hilarious. I have a soft spot for Kathleen Turner as well. the time travel/paradox/"what if I had my life to live over?" was given some real emotional resonance. the greaser/beatnik guy.

I haven't seen it in a long time, maybe it's clunkier than I remember.

xp

i remember my family attempted to take in a viewing of peggy sue gets married but it was sold out, dont think i ever saw it

this week in fascinating francis ford coppola stories!

yeah, i dunno, cage seems to verging in on something great in that movie, but ends up being kind of terrible imo. sort of a weird, risky performance i guess, but ...

the greaser/beatnik guy

lol

What was that character's name? I wasn't saying that was my choice last night btw. I haven't seen this in at least 15 years. I just feel like I watched it a lot when I was a kid and remember it being really really strange.

yeah it was on TV a LOT for some reason in the mid-90s?

(btw since we're sharing important coppola stories, was just in sonoma last weekend and considered going to his winery, but didn't)

good thing, since his winery is in Napa

nope in sonoma. drove right past it.

the one scene that really sticks with me is the one in the basement where Peggy is telling Nic Cage that he's never gonna make it as a singer and he should be more realistic and whatever and he's just not having any of it/cannot take the blow to his ego (afore-ref'd "I've got the TEETH! I've got the HAIR!" line) - it's just so strange and sad. I react to the scene in Freaks and Geeks where Nick says he'll never be the guy on the drum riser, maybe if he's lucky he'll be the guy who pushes the button that makes the drum riser go up and down... something about that terrible despair of youthful naivete being crushed. I dunno, it gets me.

the time travel/paradox/"what if I had my life to live over?" was given some real emotional resonance

otm. a lot of these i haven't seen, but iirc The Rainmaker isn't terrible and Rumblefish is better than the Outsiders. it would prob come down between Rumblefish & Peggy Sue for me.

to expand on that I appreciate how the time travel thing isn't handled in a glib/gimmicky/silly way (a la say Terminator or Back to the Future) - instead it all hinges on Peggy trying to realize her desires about making things different but being ultimately unable to, she repeats the past because she can't help herself.

The Rainmaker has terrific performances by the supporting cast. Marred by Claire Danes, Matt Damon's distracting floppy hair, and Grisham's dumb Manichean plot dynamics.

the outsiders is not very good, but i don't think that's coppola's fault. the acting is so bad. he does a nice job matching sound to image iirc.

he does to those Hinton novels what Spielberg did to The Color Purple.

nope in sonoma. drove right past it.

lol there are two of them, apparently! who knew?

i guess i didn't! definitely hard to miss from the 101 in sonoma. though i was hoping it'd be shaped like an enormous patrol boat from apocalypse now.

yeah Coppola is in Sonoma, NIEBAUM-Coppola is in Napa; we went to NC and kind of crashed the reserve tasting room (which was the BOMB)

Kevin J O'Connor is v hot in Peggy Sue

also an early Jim Carrey appearance

laurence fishburne played the same character in 'the cotton club' as he played in 'hoodlum'! ed o'ross was also in both of those films.

should have had fishburne play bumpy in 'american gangster' as well.

godfather III better not get a single vote. if it does, i demand identities so I can SB without abandon

point of pedantry, you mean with abandon

you see what thinking of that movie does to his grammar?

http://thestuffyougottawatch.com/picse-h/gof3a.jpg

he's working on a prequel trilogy i hear

who'd he cast as Obi-Wan?

ben corleone

solozzo shoots first

lol Alfred

funny thing is I sat there for five minutes before posting debating which was right and after much thought, still fucked it up

Jar Jar Barzini

Luco Brasi sleeps with the Jawas.

solozzo shoots first

― tylerw, Tuesday, June 21, 2011 6:29 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

lols

Leave the light saber. Take the canoli.

Wish I could come up with some good lines. I only know one of the franchises, though.

"Help me, Michael Corleone. You're our only hope..."

clemenza I know it's just a display name but every time you post i sorta picture the actual Clemenza posting....

diff movie, but it is sort of funny that harrison ford's one apocalypse now scene has lines about "the dark side" ...

I was going to post this on the WDYLL thread, but I guess I'll put it here:

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110106190642/godfather/images/4/42/Young_Clemenza.png

lol

Peggy Sue Got Married. there's a strange eerie beautiful atmosphere at least in the first half and the scene where she meets her Grandma who has died in the 'present' is wonderful.

critics raved about Tucker didn't they?

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totally would have voted for One From The Heart

it's really quite odd

I would've too, but I threw support behind Tetro, since it seemed a more viable contender.

I find Peggy Sue Got Married really compelling for some reason I don't entirely fathom. I think it's because it just seems so emotionally honest, it's sentimentality doesn't feel cheap or unearned. It's one of those things I will always watch if it happens to be on.

I remember Peggy Sue being tonally messy, but the scene with the grandparents destroyed me at the time, probably because I watched it not long after my own grandfather passed away.

the whole thing has this mixture of sweetness and pain, it's a fine balance. Someone like Zemeckis or Spielberg would have driven home the hamfisted "and then she realized what she needed all along was what she already had" point in a less nuanced way, a standard "unhappy protagonist learns a lesson about being happy" way. I guess really it's a variation on "It's a Wonderful Life" (which I also still find really emotionally rich and compelling). It's characters are so well drawn and sympathetic, they're given a complexity that rings true - Cage's Charlie is both a smalltown dimbulb with delusions of grandeur and a genuinely caring romantic, but she can't have one without the other, they're essential parts of his makeup.

plus it's funny.

Turner is luminous in that grandmother scene.

Someone like Zemeckis or Spielberg

one of these things isa not like the other.

I think he's said Jack was one of the movies he did to pay off One From The Heart, but he says that about a lot of things.

― Bill, Tuesday, June 21, 2011 1

He made a bunch of those eighties movies to pay off OFTH, then made a bunch of those nineties movies to pay off The Cotton Club.

the number of US directors who were first-rate in the '70s and rather less so after is not one. eg, Alan Pakula.

one of these things isa not like the other.

yr partisanship is duly noted

Why do you tolerate Jerry Lewis's voice only when Nic Cage uses it, btw?

? I like a couple Jerry Lewis things

although I kinda don't see Lewis in Cage's performance here, he's not nearly as abrasive or prepubescent

Peggy Sue Got Married the only movie I straight-up love on this list, altho I should probably revisit the Outsiders.

I rented the Outsiders about a week ago and it is... not good? I think as an adolescent I appreciated it for it's adult-free world and the belabored teenage poetry romanticism but man it is just clumsy as hell. Pretty much nobody seems to be aware that they're making the most ridiculous homoerotic fantasy of smalltown 50s male relationships (I assume Burroughs loved this movie), with the possible exception of Matt Dillon, who manages to get in a few funny reaction shots like his initial leering wink at C. Thomas Howell's bleached hair. I'm sure I'm not the first to say this, but the script is like a teenage girl's fantasy of what teenage boys are like, it is a v false and contrived setup and yet the movie attempts to wring genuine emotion from something that is, frankly, really fucking silly. Also the music cues are completely wrong/mismatched (Eric v much not otm upthread) - moments that are supposed to be tense or suffused with violence and dread are backed by innocuously bouncy Elvis tunes, it just doesn't work.

In the bigger picture of Coppola's CV, what the fuck happened to this guy? Post-70s he seems so erratic and unfocused, pursuing strange nostalgic tangents (so much stuff set in the 40s and 50s!) with varying degrees of competence and interest. Seems like such a waste.

he likes wine

in the 80s?

the script is like a teenage girl's fantasy of what teenage boys are like

well, it is based on a book written by a teenage girl

as is painfully obvious

maybe I just prefer teenage girl's fantasies of what mad scientists are like

In the bigger picture of Coppola's CV, what the fuck happened to this guy? Post-70s he seems so erratic and unfocused, pursuing strange nostalgic tangents (so much stuff set in the 40s and 50s!) with varying degrees of competence and interest. Seems like such a waste.

― Οὖτις, Friday, January 6, 2017 12:38 PM (two hours ago)

I forgot where I read it, but FFC became obsessed with his children's interests (S.E. Hinton books) but then lost his eldest son in a tragic boating accident and never quite recovered from that.

francis ford crapola more like

― frogbracist (J0rdan S.), Monday, June 20, 2011 11:58 PM (five years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maybe i made this up, but around the time jack came out i read an interview with coppola, and the journalist kind of gently pointed out that jack was not well-regarded and coppola blamed the fact that he seemed adrift as a director on the fact that the world was not producing interesting enough subjects for his movies anymore. it still pisses me off to think of that today.

― horseshoe, Monday, June 20, 2011 5:57 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

"what i need's another vietnam!"

anyway, i certainly prefer Tucker to Apocalypse Now and its second-half shapeless dickery.

I havent seen Tucker since it came out but remember it favorably

Pretty sure Tucker was the first film I saw in a theatre.

"Rumble Fish" easily.

critics raved about Tucker didn't they?

critics can be like that sometimes, but I forgive them.

watching Dracula again and it's finally clicking with me.

not cos it's 'great' or anything, Ryder and Reeves are hilariously bad and Oldman chews the scenery like mad but the atmosphere is fun including the Peter Pan disobedient shadow

What about... CAPTAIN EO !
And yeah, pretty amazing the quality drop post Apocalypse Now (although I do like Cotton Club).

As if a great artist like... Stevie Wonder had released only/mostly crap after Songs in The Key of Life !

pretty amazing the quality drop 2/3 of the way thru Apocalypse Now

I forgot where I read it, but FFC became obsessed with his children's interests (S.E. Hinton books) but then lost his eldest son in a tragic boating accident and never quite recovered from that.

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, January 6, 2017 6:13 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Has anyone here seen Twixt? Horror movie that came out a couple months after this poll. Apparently it addresses the guilt he feels over the accident. From wiki:

Hall realizes that his writer's block is the result of a form of guilt over his daughter's death in a boating accident, as he had been too drunk to accompany her that morning.

Critical reception for Twixt has been predominantly negative and the film currently holds a rating of 29% "rotten" on the review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes based upon 17 reviews. Reviewers have criticized the film for being "flimsy" and "unwatchable". French film magazine Cahiers du cinéma placed it as the third best film of 2012.

Noticed a weird flex on tonight's Nightline: The 'Top 5' was the highest grossing J.Lo movies, and JACK was #5 at $58 Mil. Figuring that couldn't be right, I check Box Office Mojo, who report that Jack is in fact her 9th biggest film (not adjusted for inflation BTW) and was distributed by Buena Vista, a subsidiary of ABC's parent company, Disney.

Also: $58 MILLION?!?

that was right after Birdcage and Jumanji, so Robin Williams could open a movie til word of mouth got around.

Yeah, I think this was where his momentum began to slow. Father's Day w/Crystal was the next year, and kind of a cinematic New Jersey.

I remember seeing BILLBOARDS for Jack that summer.

I should really give Tucker a rescreen j/k

it's very good

Not to keep harping on Jack, but owing to only catching bits and pieces on TV, I somehow missed that Bill Cosby's one of the supporting players.

Jack debuted at #1. Robin Williams was yuuuge through 1998-2000. Even goddamn Patch Adams was a smash.

I thought this thread was revived due to the re-edit of Cotton Club to restore footage that got cut at the time because "too many black people"

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/09/francis-ford-coppola-cotton-club-encore-gregory-hines

if you are curious

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-cotton-club-encore-movie-review-2019

Never seen the original release - interested to check this out on Blu-Ray or via Amazon.

“Encore” gives us more of the tap duet between Sandman and his brother Clay (Hines’ real-life brother and dance partner, Maurice Hines) and, in a heart-cracking act of sweet charity, allows Gwen Verdon (who plays Dixie’s mother)

I see what you did there

Watched a couple back-to-back: The Rainmaker and You're a Big Boy Now.

I think it's the first time for both, not 100% sure. The Rainmaker could have been directed by Ron Howard, but I liked it anyway, or at least once Mickey Rourke thankfully made an early exit. DeVito, Voight, Danny Glover, and Mary Kay Place are very good, and I probably like Matt Damon more than most people. His narration reminded me a lot of his narration in Rounders.

You're a Big Boy Now is mostly a dated mid-'60s romp, a young American filmmaker trying to catch up with Godard and Richard Lester. The common observation that it's a precursor to The Graduate has a bit of truth to it, but for me the latter is a quantum leap across the board. Karen Black's first film. I loved one sequence, Elizabeth Hartman's seduction of Peter Kastner to the Lovin' Spoonful's "Darling Be Home Soon." A different song, I wouldn't have even noticed.

did you watch YABBN on TCM? I saw it advertised tonight.

No, I found it on YouTube, which I'm able to watch on the big screen via my cable provider. Clean image, but it seemed a little jumpy now and again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AkcIlt2Yvo

Skip to 1:02:00 for the Lovin' Spoonful. (Off-screen, but Hartman actually puts on a record.)

rumble fish is so dope

Warner Archive did a nice DVD of YABBN.

Anyone see/have memories of the SNL ep Coppola directed? Host George Wendt and musical guests Phillip Glass. 1986.

https://www.onesnladay.com/2019/03/26/march-22-1986-george-wendt-and-francis-ford-coppola-philip-glass-s11-e13/

New One's in Trouble:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/francis-ford-coppolas-megalopolis-in-peril-1235284875/

A truly brilliant paragraph right here:

Sources say Coppola, who has never made an effects-heavy movie, fired almost his entire visual effects team Dec. 9, with the rest of that department soon following. Mark Russell, a veteran whose credits include In the Heights and The Wolf of Wall Street, was leading the team as visual effects supervisor. (Coppola famously fired his visual effects department on Dracula 30 years ago.)

one from the heart got nothing here? all right

Coppola says the everything is fine:

https://deadline.com/2023/01/francis-ford-coppola-no-truth-to-apocalypse-on-megalopolis-1235216222/

3D Stake From the Heart got nothing here?

"You don't think going into bankruptcy's scary? It's so scary that it can make you suck your own blood!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkWIh_IiL0o

Tom Waits wrote an exceptionally good tune for One from the Heart, though the Crystal Gayle version doesn't work as well and his own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYwwpbStHZw

*as his own

this is kinda like choosing a kickball team from a herd of fat kids

I had a legitimate belly laugh at this.

I don't remember if I voted in this but if I did I'd have voted Tetro.

https://thefilmstage.com/francis-ford-coppolas-new-re-edit-restoration-btwixt-now-and-sunrise-arrives-in-february/

I love The Outsiders

Apocalypse Now broke him.

Saw Rumble Fish in a one-off Alamo screening a couple of months back -- never had seen it before, stagey as hell and yet it worked.

Anyone see the revamped Cotton Club?

I thought Rumble Fish would be thought of as a cult classic around these parts but obviously.. not.

Got through One from the Heart over a few nights. Wasn't sure I'd ever give it a go, but the Sam Wasson book made me curious. Such a weird, hollow film. Frederic Forrest is so ill-equipped to handle the lead role (and cursed with a Three Stooges haircut for most of the film). Felt embarrassed for H.D. Stanton (whose hair is worse) and Teri Garr too at different points (not her performance, more that she was dragged into this). I think Tom Waits' score is probably the worst thing about it. I've never seen La La Land: did it take some of its look from Coppola's film?

Ha, pretty brutal review from first line to last. Nastassja Kinski looks great in it though, right? iirc this film, like Bullitt, has one of those airport gate departure scenes that would now be impossible and thus inspire nostalgia.

xxp I actually saw that at the NYFF (having never seen the one that was ultimately released in theaters), and Coppola did explain how the Hines brothers bore the brunt of the cuts because of the racist bullshit the producers threw at him (i.e. the movie's too long and their characters only appealed to Black people). You can kind of tell what was cut because even though they found all those scenes, it feels like they didn't find the original camera negative and had to use inferior quality material to restore them. Not vastly inferior - it still looks like it came from 35mm film - but the picture quality definitely drops down during those scenes. Anyway, I have to say it's probably a massive improvement because the movie really lights up during those scenes - it's ridiculous that they cut them out because the rest feels so stiff in comparison, especially compared to the Hines brothers. Maurice (who just passed away) was at the screening, so at least he got to see it restored.

At least Heaven's Gate has the two great sequences, the graduation and the roller-skating scene. I know it's seen by some as a great film now, but even if you don't share that view, there are those two sequences. One from the Heart has nothing.

I agree that the music doesn’t work at all.

I really really really liked tetro a lot

My intro to the rather hot to Alden Ehrenreich.

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One From the Heart had a couple of screenings at the local Alamo going and out of curiosity I went to see one and what a weird curio of a film. It's pretty obvious that Garr and Julia just have way better chemistry than Garr does with Forrest, while Kinski as a literal magic pixie dream girl means the only way the film even vaguely works plotwise is to read it as 'an abusive kidnapping hypocritical oaf finally pushes someone who deserves better too far, said person finds someone a lot better after all and flies off with him, while the oaf retreats into an unearned fantasy that probably is a sign of a breakdown.' And my god, when Kazan and Stanton start clicking immediately and then we follow Forrest as he runs off I was almost all "Are you insane? Stick with those two! They're fucking hilarious together!" It almost felt like Coppola was trying to puree several Bogdanovich films into one thing.