Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

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shit title

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 6 August 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

suppose lfc would settle for any title tho what what

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 6 August 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

fuck off back to the Europa League where youse belong

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 August 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

HEY WTF

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 6 August 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

that last pic was meant to be this

http://spurs.theoffside.com/files/2011/07/Luka-Modric-Chelsea-237x300.jpg

lol c&p mishaps huh

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 6 August 2011 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

i was like that can't be a tranny no way

carstens, Saturday, 6 August 2011 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

shit title

Don't worry. It'll be replaced by a thread title of "super quality" by the close of the window.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 6 August 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

should have worked "'Avin' a Go" in there somehow

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 August 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

has snider had a hair transplant y/n

nh (cozen), Saturday, 6 August 2011 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

sorry, snyder

nh (cozen), Saturday, 6 August 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

Does the league not allow tremas on shirts or do City not know their players' names?

At least ILF got it right: Sergio Agüero

boxall, Saturday, 6 August 2011 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

Module is deliverable imo, thread starter to eat words come end of season.

I approve of 'EPL''s ascension to official status btw.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 6 August 2011 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

The other thing about the thread title - as well as google inaccessibility, it's passing-interest-proof. Other than the couple dozen of us, who is ever going to be intrigued to click on that?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 6 August 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

don't be such a fucking snob

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 6 August 2011 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

Is "the Module" Champions League qualification?

Chris, Saturday, 6 August 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

the module is whatever the guvnor sez it is sonny

http://forum.ge/uploads/post-73-1215384239.jpg

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 6 August 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

I just miss the word Liverpool tied to not winning something in the thread title tbh

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 6 August 2011 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

has snider had a hair transplant y/n

Definitely. That's why him and Wayne must be in the same team. Trading grooming tips etc.

Number None, Saturday, 6 August 2011 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/07/article-2023254-0D54428B00000578-971_634x549.jpg

Levy's plan to welcome Adebayor to the club goes a bit too far.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 7 August 2011 05:36 (thirteen years ago)

I just miss the word Liverpool tied to not winning something in the thread title tbh

― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 7 August 2011 00:17 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I just miss the word Liverpool tied to not winning something in the thread title tbh

― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 7 August 2011 00:17 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I just miss the word Liverpool tied to not winning something in the thread title tbh

― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 7 August 2011 00:17 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I just miss the word Liverpool tied to not winning something in the thread title tbh

― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 7 August 2011 00:17 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I just miss the word Liverpool tied to not winning something in the thread title tbh

― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 7 August 2011 00:17 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 7 August 2011 06:16 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea teenager Oriol Romeu, who joined last week from Barcelona on a four-year deal, has revealed he would like to return to the Spanish giants in the future.
Full story: Metro

good luck chelsea

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 7 August 2011 06:22 (thirteen years ago)

I just miss the word Liverpool tied to not winning something in the thread title tbh

JEEZ GUYS SORRY THE THREAD TITLE CONTAINS NO REFERENCE TO LIVERPOOL NOT WINNING ANYTHING

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 August 2011 07:21 (thirteen years ago)

I like the thread title's fusion of English traditionalism with modern continental techniques.

Matt DC, Sunday, 7 August 2011 10:00 (thirteen years ago)

The other thing about the thread title - as well as google inaccessibility, it's passing-interest-proof. Other than the couple dozen of us, who is ever going to be intrigued to click on that?

Fair point - I've killed EPL in the thread title. Delivering the module there.

Matt DC, Sunday, 7 August 2011 10:03 (thirteen years ago)

unilateral imo

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Sunday, 7 August 2011 10:19 (thirteen years ago)

original title lives on in bookmarks

caek, Sunday, 7 August 2011 10:32 (thirteen years ago)

what's the best website for streaming highlights of other sports? is there a 101gg for golf/tennis

nh (cozen), Sunday, 7 August 2011 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

Gah, I'm a big fan of 'EPL'! Will keep mouth shut. The unattractiveness comes from fusion of Dalglish & management speak imo, but yes, I agree with the benefit for passing trade.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 7 August 2011 11:03 (thirteen years ago)

Anyway, if I were a City fan I'd be concerned about what's coming from Mancini right now. He's already talking down their title chances and suggesting they might not have the right mentality. A++++ motivation there dude.

Matt DC, Sunday, 7 August 2011 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

Dunno, I get the impression that in private Mancini's probably all "you must kill these guys, ALL of them! We must win the league" What he says to the media is another thing altogether.

pandemic, Sunday, 7 August 2011 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

Hart, Richards, Kompany, Lescott, Kolarov, De Jong, Silva, Yaya, Milner, Balotelli, Dzeko.

De Gea, Smalling, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Nani, Carrick, Anderson, Young, Rooney, Welbeck.

Number None, Sunday, 7 August 2011 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

Anyone got a decent Charity Shield stream?

Matt DC, Sunday, 7 August 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

There's this one: http://www.rojadirecta.es/goto/u20cup-ch05.blogspot.com/

Don't know if it's decent though.

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 7 August 2011 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

veetlesportshd2.blogspot.com/2011/08/channel-1.html

nakhchivan, Sunday, 7 August 2011 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

feeling this new utd keeper

nh (cozen), Sunday, 7 August 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

Fergie won't be delivering the module either if De Gea carries on like this.

Matt DC, Sunday, 7 August 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

I can see Fergie in two years repeating how he regrets not having bought Stekelenburg earlier, just as he keeps lamenting that he got Van der Sar too late.

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 7 August 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

Is De Gea wearing and old VdS shirt btw? Looks huge on him.

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 7 August 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder why the red-nosed old Scottish drunk keeps bunging secret fees to GestiFute for players like Cronaldo, Nani, Anderson, Bebe and De Gea?

James Mitchell, Sunday, 7 August 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

Richards should've been off for that.

Chris, Sunday, 7 August 2011 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah. It's been fairly fractious for an ostensible friendly

Number None, Sunday, 7 August 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

That was a pretty amazing team goal just then, how many passes in and around the area?

Mancini's inspirational Barry-for-Balotelli substitution looking pretty stupid now.

Matt DC, Sunday, 7 August 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah that was a great atrtack

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 7 August 2011 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

This Cleverly guy looks a good player, is he English?

Matt DC, Sunday, 7 August 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

Lol-Kompany

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 7 August 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

'the Nani state', srsly?

boxall, Sunday, 7 August 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

Mancini won't be delivering the module either if they carry on like this, pretty lolworthy capitulation really...

Matt DC, Sunday, 7 August 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

Nani still the best player in the prem

Number None, Sunday, 7 August 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

http://imgnook.com/1BOo.gif

nh (cozen), Sunday, 7 August 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

good 2nd half missed first.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Sunday, 7 August 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

Cleverly was quite impressive when he came on. Maybe he can oust Carrick this year.

Number None, Sunday, 7 August 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

Was watching Mainz/Leverkusen so missed this apart from the Dzeko goal. That goal that cozen posted above is an absolute gem tho.

pandemic, Sunday, 7 August 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

Cosign on tremendousness of that goal.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

never seen the game the day. spunking all over the shop at that goal.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

Oh yeah wow, that's really special. You can see what they've been doing with their summer.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

Cosign on tremendousness of that goal.

― William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 7 August 2011 21:46 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Monday, 8 August 2011 02:22 (thirteen years ago)

Barçaesque (on dat troll shit).

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 8 August 2011 02:32 (thirteen years ago)

dang that goal

a chaos of crevasses at cape crozier (gbx), Monday, 8 August 2011 03:17 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe Little Scholesy was holding them back all these years.

James Mitchell, Monday, 8 August 2011 05:50 (thirteen years ago)

btw in the interests of pedantry, the top division in English football is called the English Premier League. the Premiership is some Rugby thing or something.

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Monday, 8 August 2011 05:57 (thirteen years ago)

Good point, can we get a title change on the 01/02, 02/03, 03/04, 04/05, 05/06, 07/08, 09/10 and 10/11 threads please?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 8 August 2011 06:34 (thirteen years ago)

It was the Barclays Premiership and has been the Barclays Premier League since '07/'08.

Looking forward to the official The FA Cup with Budweiser thread.

James Mitchell, Monday, 8 August 2011 07:22 (thirteen years ago)

You really want this now, after the NAMING RIGHTS fiasco last season?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 8 August 2011 07:58 (thirteen years ago)

btw I can announce that I signed for Arsenal at the weekend - just waiting for the red membership paperwork to be completed then it'll be down to some serious badge-kissing. Obviously it would be my dream to someday return to Liverpool, etc.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 8 August 2011 08:02 (thirteen years ago)

Just think, when Liverpool win the title they will be pulling their shirt over your head against your will due to immense amounts of Scouse DNA.

James Mitchell, Monday, 8 August 2011 08:32 (thirteen years ago)

you should see the quotes from pandemic today in the other thread

Ismael Klata, Monday, 8 August 2011 08:40 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe Little Scholesy was holding them back all these years.

Well, it's clearly no coincidence that we looked way more dynamic once Carrick went off. We never would have scored that goal with him on the pitch.

Number None, Monday, 8 August 2011 08:49 (thirteen years ago)

putting forward the scandalous motion to move this thread to ilf, i cannae be fucked clicking hither & yon

r|t|c, Monday, 8 August 2011 10:13 (thirteen years ago)

pretty sure that this thread must stay in ile as per ilf articles if association

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 8 August 2011 10:28 (thirteen years ago)

putting forward the scandalous motion to move this thread to ilf, i cannae be fucked clicking hither & yon

Bookmarks, dude (also it's still called EPL, none of your Premiership nonsense, in bookmarks)

ailsa, Monday, 8 August 2011 10:32 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.arsenal.com/juniorgunners/news/gunnersaurus-weekly-blog-august-8?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+arsenal-news+%28News+Feed%29

so disappointed this isn't just "RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Monday, 8 August 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago)

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01288/SNN0907BB-6822_1288929a.jpg

+ +, Monday, 8 August 2011 10:40 (thirteen years ago)

Outstanding!!

pandemic, Monday, 8 August 2011 10:44 (thirteen years ago)

Gunnersarus blog is depressingly mundane

Number None, Monday, 8 August 2011 10:44 (thirteen years ago)

Might have to sign up as a Junior Gunner for a copy of TJ and the Winning Goal.

James Mitchell, Monday, 8 August 2011 10:49 (thirteen years ago)

gunnersaurus keeping shtoom about accidentally breathing fire on lord harris' carpetright store this wknd i see

r|t|c, Monday, 8 August 2011 10:51 (thirteen years ago)

AOC looks to be on dis ting? Said to be having a medical this week?

/rumour mill and twitter

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Monday, 8 August 2011 10:55 (thirteen years ago)

Need some of that super quality he would bring.

James Mitchell, Monday, 8 August 2011 10:59 (thirteen years ago)

aoc?

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 8 August 2011 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

alex oxtail-chamberpot

r|t|c, Monday, 8 August 2011 11:34 (thirteen years ago)

Palacios to Stoke rumours doing the rounds as well. He'll add some much needed steel to their midfield.

Matt DC, Monday, 8 August 2011 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger putting the Oxencart before the Chamberpot.

James Mitchell, Monday, 8 August 2011 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

vg

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

Ok, so when I said 'this week', I should have said 'today

Pretty excited to see AOC at Arsenal. Supposedly an even better prospect than Bale and Theo were? [that's not coming from me, i've only ever seen him in that utd fa cup match] Also w/ him and the promotions of Gibbs and Lansury we could move off the bottom of 'how many englishers do they play' league so Shearer and his ilk can bang on about someone else.

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

Shearer won't be happy with the spelling 'Henri'.

boxall, Monday, 8 August 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

I'll be sorely disappointed if Henri doesn't break out his 'dougie' if/when he scores this season.

pandemic, Monday, 8 August 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

our 'enri.

Sir Chips Keswick (Merdeyeux), Monday, 8 August 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

Citeh have agreed personal terms of £185,000 a week with Nasri, according to the Independent.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 08:54 (thirteen years ago)

good, ffs. Deal is too good to turn down for arsenal and may lead to fabregas finally fucking off

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 09:09 (thirteen years ago)

Kind of assuming that every London game will be called off this weekend, if only to free up police numbers.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 09:16 (thirteen years ago)

Argh I can't believe it's come to this - Nasri, Cesc a certainty to leave too, no replacements. I really thought that last season could've been a learning experience, what-doesn't-kill-you-makes-you-mentally-stronger experience. But now it's back to square one. Where's the mental strength coming from? Who's going to carry them when they're up against it? Arshavin?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 09:20 (thirteen years ago)

Need some players with not just quality but super quality, like Squillaci.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 09:20 (thirteen years ago)

scrappy doo

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 09:21 (thirteen years ago)

fuck's sake

The riots aren't *that* bad can i get a little company in here

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 10:18 (thirteen years ago)

Chippy Vela off to Lorient. Not Orient.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 10:31 (thirteen years ago)

And 'arry is only 'aving a mild go for Diarra.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

"ex-Chelsea man" Diarra, that is. Ahem.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

send the facts out to war imo

Diarra, samba, adebayor in, crouch or pav, wilson and blackburn's pick of keane bentley or hutton out.

Don't like adebayor but still, that's ok that is

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 10:36 (thirteen years ago)

Look forward to Hleb and Denilson signing for Spurs in a year or too. Even Citeh should be able to see through them.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago)

yeah getting rid of those two really worked out for ye

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 10:40 (thirteen years ago)

Not convinced by this whole Diarra thing - failed stints at Arsenal, Chelsea, Portsmouth (!!!), has he covered himself in glory at Madrid particularly?

Wilson to Stoke looks like it's happening. Because what they really need is another shitkicker.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 10:52 (thirteen years ago)

unfairly ignored at arsenal, imo, probably fairly ignored at chelsea behind essien, right? Very good for portsmouth imo, and i thought he was good for the first while at least for real, til they signed everyone else.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:01 (thirteen years ago)

I don't see a problem w/ Nasri leaving for 25m tbh. It's a shame it is to City but that is a number that can buy us one hell of a player, or two very exciting ones. Also considering that Ozil only went for half of that w/ 1 year left shows we still got game at negotiating.

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

Stupid to pay £25m alright. City should just wait out the year imo.

pandemic, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:14 (thirteen years ago)

would be missing the point- another dig at arsenal, one of three teams that could bother them

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:18 (thirteen years ago)

tho in this case 20-25m is overvaluing that dig.

Not that it matters. Wenger will spend as much of that 25m as he would a free transfer

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:20 (thirteen years ago)

Also considering that Ozil only went for half of that w/ 1 year left shows we still got game at negotiating.

― I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 12:06 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol what? once again using the extreme outliers to buff up your nonsense

r|t|c, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:20 (thirteen years ago)

Gonna be hilarious when Nasri breaks a leg on his first game at Eastlands.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:21 (thirteen years ago)

you're thinking of diaby, van persie, rosicky, etc etc

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

yeah kinda skeptical that wenger will end up with the team strengthened after nasri's departure.

pandemic, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

once again using the extreme outliers to buff up your nonsense
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:20 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it's the arsenal way

nh (cozen), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

Also considering that Ozil only went for half of that w/ 1 year left shows we still got game at negotiating.

― I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 12:06 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah sorry but this is bollocks. "Got game"? Arsenal is being humiliated! ManC just waves a cheque, they don't care if they have to pay 20 or 30 million, they'll laugh their asses off that yet again Arsenal budges and takes the cheque, fooling themselves, like you do, justifying it by saying "oohh well we can get a really good player back for that money!". Which never happens.

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:24 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal arent being humiliated - please don't let gooners get away with talking shit by ott counteraction, happens all the time - and 25m is a good deal but it's just standard procedure not some feat of badass bartering

r|t|c, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:27 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not letting any gooners get away. I am a gooner.

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

- city always go ham - look at the de jong deal
- ozil, khedira and sahin deals are no yardstick for anything

it's just somewhere mundane in the middle is all

r|t|c, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

nah, tbh 25m is great money for an expiring contract, it makes sense

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal have just spent what £12m on a promising teenager who probably won't improve the first team for a couple of years.

pandemic, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

^^ this.

Even is 25m is fair, having faith in Arsenal for splashing cash on a top player, for once, is kidding yourself imho.

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:31 (thirteen years ago)

Even if

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:31 (thirteen years ago)

xxxp haha ok soz bateau. i just find it frustrating when there's deserving criticisms to be made but people kneejerk into little england mode and make wenger look like the sanest man in the world

r|t|c, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:34 (thirteen years ago)

On the other hand if they take some of the money and land Gotze before the end of August I take it all back. Hope they don't tho.

pandemic, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:35 (thirteen years ago)

players arsenal bought that were already somewhat good, out of the current lot

Vermaelen half broke
Van persie 75% broke
Arshavin half wages half bothered
Rosicky fully broke
??????

This is not bargain shopping this is being conned. I can see why arsene doesn't want to spend- he's no good at it these days.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

ok my bad.

but this is so wrong:

"oohh well we can get a really good player back for that money!". Which never happens.

― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 12:24 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

Vermaelan post Toure? Pires post Overmars? Henry post Anelka? Nasri post Hleb? etc.

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

It's cool rtc :)

I've a lot of love for Wenger but if I gave the impression he's the sanest man in the world I do apologize ;)

I just think Arsenal should have said: enough is enough: Nasri and Cesc aren't leaving. If it means the former leaving on a free next year, so be it. We finally want to win a fucking prize this year.

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

Urgh, Spurs fan doing the proven track record ting, really?

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

isnt the gotze cat kinda out of the bag now? ie the way people are talking about him now it seems unlikely he'd go for under 30m.

then again i have no idea of what dortmund's finances are like and what bids they can withstand

r|t|c, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

Also, Nasri has already been replaced? By a guy who scored 15 last season and won a league?

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:39 (thirteen years ago)

Ok Sam, maybe not *never*, but way too little. And Nasri was hardly the player leading the team when they bought him. He was a highly talented youngster that still needed a year at least to start blossoming iirc

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:39 (thirteen years ago)

probably correct r/t/c. I just always assume that German clubs other than Bayern take the money chucked at them. Having said that don't know why Arsenal would be more attractive to Gotze than Dortmund tbh

pandemic, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

we're talking about wenger.

Nasri hasn't delivered, six months one season in three doesn't allow you that claim.

Vermaelen is too broke, he's good besides.

The others were ten years ago.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

Citeh fucking stupid to 'ave a go for a player who's had six good months in the past four seasons.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it's a good sale

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger's ability to make great signings has pretty much declined with the French football team. I wonder whether he's got the same level of contacts that he used to.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

BTW I agree you with you guys on most of this, it is just the way you all decide to gang up on me like you are teaching me a lesson is the stupidest shit.

For example, Nasri won France's YPOTY and then POTY in the same way Hazard and Gotze have just done (think Gotze just won YPOTY iirc?) - so why is he an example of not buying good replacements but Gotze will?

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

BTW I agree you with you guys on most of this, it is just the way you all decide to gang up on me like you are teaching me a lesson is the stupidest shit.

This seems projection on your part, not how I am feeling this at all tbh

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger's ability to make great signings has pretty much declined with the French football team. I wonder whether he's got the same level of contacts that he used to.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 12:46 (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Players he has bought who have been experienced French internationals: Pires, Squallici, Wiltord, Petit... I think Nasri had like 7 caps.

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

Well on the point that Wenger rarely buys like-for-like experienced replacements, we agree yes LBI?

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

That he rarely does that? Yes.

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:51 (thirteen years ago)

Steering clear of most of this mess:

-Rafa Honigstein was asked on Twitter recently about Gotze going, to Arsenal or elsewhere. His reply was 'Messi is more likely to leave.' I don't know whether he meant this summer only, or after that as well.

-darragh, do you know offhand how much Rosicky & Van Persie cost, or are you just assuming they were somewhere in the ~15m range and thus can be lumped with Arshavin as examples of Wenger getting conned?

boxall, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

Using the Nasri money to sign Messi, eh?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

nah, i know they were cheap. Vp was only 3m odd, rosicky about 7m

The problem is that they are, esp rvp, first team players in all but actuality. We have the same with King. Limbo where you don't replace them with real quality and their inferior 'cover' plays more games than they do.

And my point was, even at cheap prices, part time world class footballers are a false economy.

So, tbf to me, no i was't just having a clueless dig there for a change

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

Wiki:

Disagreements with coach Bert van Marwijk culminated in a change of club and van Persie moved to Premier League side Arsenal for £2.75 million in 2004 as a long-term replacement for Dennis Bergkamp.

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

arshavin is probably his best first-team purchase for years, rivalled only by vermaelen? Who is broke.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

Broke in so much as he is fit to start the season?

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

Van Persie: seven seasons, 230 matches (avg. 32.9), 95 goals. You'd have to include Ledley King's last nine seasons to get near the same number of matches, even if you politely set aside the issue of their relative quality w/out further comment.

boxall, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

ledley king easily as good as rvp imo

pandemic, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

how many matches do arsenal play a season? 55? 60? So RVP played about 60%? Okay, I guess.

pandemic, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, OK is about right - not ideal, but not '75 % broke'.

Meanwhile Vermaelen has a slightly sore back, Achilles is fine. Rosicky is healthy, just not pacey like he once was, but compared to say Huddlestone he's a young Joe Cole.

I know it's all about winding up one poster in particular, but the standard of veracity could be better imo.

boxall, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

king was a really good player a few years ago but rvp is a level ahead of that

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

your standard of veracity is being used to downplay rvp's injury record

You can keep it tbh

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

In fairness RVP is pretty lethal whenever he's not injured. As far as coming back from injury goes he's probably in the top three players in the world.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

also, i wasn't comparing rvp to king- both equivalently talented players imo as it happens- merely pointing out that each being central to a team yet being available ~ half the time is a huge handicap. I dunno can it be overstated tbh.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

rvp is a 14 goal a season striker.

Pav is that.

No joke tho, pav at arsenal would be a good fit.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

vermaelen and rosicky are fit today, fair fucks.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

king was a step ahead of rvp a couple years back but his injury situation is a total joke. His knees have us hamstrung.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

xps: Absolutely a huge handicap. But it has precious little to do with Wenger's more recent signings, and whether he's lost his touch.

Last relevant comment on that topic itt was probably Matt on the recent failures of the highly rated young French players. Gourcuff, Benzema and Menez not exactly a golden generation.

boxall, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

but would do a job at arsenal atm non?

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

jury's still out on benzema imo

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe Benzema, but if Wenger paid more than 15m for him he'd be getting conned, and I doubt he'd go for less than 30m.

The others, don't think so.

boxall, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

Gourcuff, Benzema and Menez not exactly a golden generation.

― boxall, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 15:27 (34 minutes ago) Bookmark

idk, all kinda mismanaged no? or not suitably motivated. def been flickers of world class in there

r|t|c, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

Also Wenger's contacts would be for the French League as a whole presumably, not just French players. tbf understandably priced out of drogba, essien, malouda

pandemic, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

contacts should preclude being priced out of those deals, though not every time tbf

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

he could have had drogba (and ibra, and yaya) early on tbf

r|t|c, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

yeah weren't blackburn offered drogba for 9m the year before?

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

didn't know that. was just questioning the idea that the current poor crop of French players (tho i rate benzema quite highly actually) is an explanation for wenger's transfer dealings over the last 6 years.

pandemic, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

we had a bid accepted for drogba when he was in the french second division, for 300k, but couldn't get the work permit iirc

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

darragh is a dick, even if i still <3 him.

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

don't be the new lfc lads, i implore ye

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno what you mean, my craziness is a much different taste to the scouse wines.

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

wengerian denial there

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

Ryo Miyaichi got his work permit for Arsenl btw

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

He had a good season at Feyenoord

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

are you trolling

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

i don't know what those lads get up to in the Ireland camp but i think we shd stop letting them have Doyle if they're gonna keep sending him back broken

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

No deems

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

;)

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

Ryo Miyaichi got his work permit for Arsenl btw

― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 17:51 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ok this is a kid i super excited about. #newronaldo #notnewinamotohopefully

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

He really did have a good half year at Feyenoord though.

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

i never disputed that?

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

Was responding to Deems

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

he's killfiled me i win

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

lol

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

lol no i just skim read and didnt notice you

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

think we need threads for all the ilx reglas

not that type of poster: deems 10/11

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

*ilf*

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

i am by times unfairly maligned as less than earnest in my unceasing critique of millionaire managers

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.sport.es/resources/jpg/4/0/1312930647904.jpg

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 09:09 (thirteen years ago)

stoke a bit fuckin cheeky, non?

Crouch and palacios for <20m - well fair fuckin enough, far be it from me to value crouch above 5m for a start

But

'And we can't pay their wages neither, can you do that?' is a bit much.

Probably worth it to get rid. Maximum wage cap is all well and good til you realise you're paying it indiscriminately to every cunt

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 09:12 (thirteen years ago)

keane thinks he'll go, but is holding out for an epl club

well robbie i'd like to get my cheese from m&s but guess what come the end of this block of gruyere it'll be lidl i'm heading to, won't it, so let's all just face facts eh

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 09:16 (thirteen years ago)

Robbie Keane strikes me as having a staggering lack of humility. If he'd done anything of note at West Ham he might have a case but loads of player, including 40-year old Teddy Sheringham and Craig Bellamy, were better when they dropped down a level.

Surely Sunderland are stupid enough to take him right now? They love a big-time Irishman.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 10:42 (thirteen years ago)

They love a big-time Irishman

Even more than Celtic do

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

i'd take offence if it were anything but plain fact

His fuckin wages are preposterous, is the thing.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

OTM

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 10:52 (thirteen years ago)

Robbie Keane strikes me as having a staggering lack of humility.

Irish fans are depressingly familiar with this fact. Can't imagine what it's like being a Spurs fan into the bargain. Probably doesn't help that his combined transfer fees total 70m

Number None, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 11:25 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs, first time round, only club not to regret buying him? Maybe Coventry as well.

pandemic, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 11:31 (thirteen years ago)

that side is irrelevant, tbh- he'd moved around a lot but was probably only overvalued in his last two moves, to liverpool and back.

It's fair to point out that he was really great for us for many years, but for a long time now he's brought his 'ireland international' head into the day job with him. He's an ugly thing to watch with that head on him, petulant, wasteful, stupid, lazy and arrogant.

A free transfer for a 31yr old with 50 international goals and better than one in three throughout his career might be good business.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

Transfer fee comment was merely a lame joke about his own sense of self-worth. How come he didn't stay at Celtic that time? They didn't have the cash i suppose?

Number None, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

for a long time now he's brought his 'ireland international' head into the day job with him

so true, i can remember here when matt would think i was mental for slating him constantly, but if you never saw him for ireland you'd never have disliked. he's been the irish robbie keane since moving to liverpool, that gait of trying too hard to appear like trying when he isn't actually doing anything. would rather dive than win a ball.

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

How come he didn't stay at Celtic that time? They didn't have the cash i suppose?

I don't think it was ever actually an option (also suspect Lennon didn't want to keep him)

ailsa, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

Blackburn's Christopher Samba, meet transfer target Sol Bamba. Sol Bamba, Christopher Samba.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

get young coleman out of your fantasy teams

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

?? crocked?

pandemic, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

up to 6mths, ligaments after friendly tackle

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

cryin seam

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

srsly he is a good player

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

Fucks sake. That's awful

Number None, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

yeah good player, esp going frwd, gave us a torrid time in the Hodgson derby.

pandemic, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

i like him, irish bale obvs

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

Trapp probably wasn't going to pick him anyway

Number None, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

true

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

get cesc out of your fantasy teams

Chris, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

injured? SOLD???

pandemic, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

killed

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

LOOOOOOOOOOL

£25m + £5m in add ons? Or is that just Daily Mail speculation?

pandemic, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

cesc to barca is the most enervating and boring TRANSFER SAGA of all timessss

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

Will be off to Barca within the next 48 years, according to Balague.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

hard pressed to think of a worse

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

Balague also had him off to Barca last summer, the summer before that and the two previous summers.

Guess he's right this time though.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/f8ELf.jpg

just look at the poor fucker, he can hardly keep his eyes open

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

Cesc paying five million of it apparently.

Etoo to Anzhi is a crazy one.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

Will be off to Barca within the next 48 years, according to Balague.

hedging his bets a bit there tbh

pandemic, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

Debut v Real on Sunday then, or will he still be injured?

Chris, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

just watching an attenborough where a wasp injects its larvae into a caterpillar, which then feeds them out of its own resources before they eat their way out and leave it a dead husk.

As it happens.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

hahahaha

pandemic, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

Eto'o hasn't gone and gone there, has he?!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

770k pw says he has

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

*gosh*

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

what a waste

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

et to'o, samu

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

£770k a week a reasonable wage to endure constant racist abuse while sleepwalking past a load of shit defenders into the goal.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

+ buy a nice coat for the winter

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

@danroan Fabregas is indeed on verge of leaving Arsenal for Barca. Board member I spoke to expects it done by w'end and adamant all funds reinvested
And 'reinvested' had better not mean new contracts for Eboue and Denilson.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe the Highbury condos need refurbishing already.

boxall, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

Not a fan of pre season friendlies as a rule, but the first half of Germany vs Brazil has been good. First start for Gotze.

pandemic, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

mustn't. do. goatse. joke.

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

i hear he's partic good at stretching play and pulling the rearguard out of position

r|t|c, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

i hear he's got an incredibly stretchy arsehole

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

Can't imagine any joke of this sort could be as entertaining as watching Gotze play. (He scored against Brazil as I was typing that.)

Guess this shouldn't really be in the Premier League thread though.

boxall, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

hope he moves to wolves

http://www.offthepost.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/mick-mccarthy.gif

r|t|c, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

moratti calling the eto'o offer "intelligent, interesting, and fair" is more entertaining than either gotze or goatse imo tbf

r|t|c, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

Has Scott Parker gone anywhere? LOL Player of the Year.

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 11 August 2011 08:44 (thirteen years ago)

priced out of a move

Wenger could learn from that tbh

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 August 2011 08:56 (thirteen years ago)

Player of the Year's been a poisioned chalice for Parker I think - West Ham have priced him out of a move but c'mon the guy's on the other side of 30 and is probably at his peak now. He's not going to get considerably better and there isn't that much of a career in front of him.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 August 2011 09:13 (thirteen years ago)

Denilson loan watch: has now been sent off twice in three games in Brazil.

Bring him home.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 11 August 2011 09:21 (thirteen years ago)

i know that everyone is sick to death of the debacle, but why the fuck would arsenal accept 27m for their whinging baby of a captain?

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 August 2011 09:23 (thirteen years ago)

you really don't understand the art of negotiation, do you?

B: £35m
A: £40m
B: £30m
A: £35m
B: £27m
A: Done.

Upt0eleven, Thursday, 11 August 2011 09:32 (thirteen years ago)

i know that everyone is sick to death of the debacle, but why the fuck would arsenal accept 27m for their whinging baby of a captain?

Because increased brinksmanship might get them more money, but it'll also mean the saga goes on until transfer deadline day with no opportunity to buy a replacement who isn't some lame panic option. The Berbatov Condundrum in other words.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 August 2011 09:40 (thirteen years ago)

i maybe don't at that, tbh. I know landlords in mayo utilise the same tactic but maybe the standards are just higher at my job than at arsenal's transfer dept

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 August 2011 09:40 (thirteen years ago)

my response: ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 11 August 2011 09:44 (thirteen years ago)

There's also a problem in that big-name transfers from England to Europe are going to be lower at the moment than transfers between English clubs because the pound is now piss-weak compared to the Euro.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 August 2011 09:49 (thirteen years ago)

yeah which makes me doubt that Utd can get Sneijder. Already on more money than Utd's top earner and will probably want Euro's as well.

pandemic, Thursday, 11 August 2011 09:56 (thirteen years ago)

the continued ushing of the schnoyjider deal is really confusing

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 August 2011 09:57 (thirteen years ago)

how the fuck are utd spending so much btw? like lol add another 100m of debt to the billion

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 11 August 2011 10:07 (thirteen years ago)

looks like we will buy scott dann, to which i respond... meh. i guess at 24 he can v. much improve but he isn't better than anyone we already have. better 4th choice pick than squiggle. good but not good enough to make a noticable difference. REALLY not the signing we need to be making the week CF+SN leave.

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 11 August 2011 10:11 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe Wenger's had some kind of ideological Melanie Phillips moment and is going to turn you into Stoke?

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 August 2011 10:14 (thirteen years ago)

Next few signings - Scott Dann, Lee Cattermole, Niall Quinn.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 August 2011 10:15 (thirteen years ago)

Well Spurs haven't finalised the Palacios/Crouch deal yet. Maybe Wenger decided to act quickly lest they slip out of his clutches?

pandemic, Thursday, 11 August 2011 10:17 (thirteen years ago)

scott dann isn't as bad as a lot of last season's arsenal cb's, tbh.

There are different types of centre half, y'know. I don't know who you have like him. No doubt i'm about to find out.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 August 2011 10:31 (thirteen years ago)

Think this could be my favourite Fabregas moment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsQtL-6c00Q

James Mitchell, Thursday, 11 August 2011 10:35 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger was pretty succesful in the past with *galumphing English carthorses at centre half, maybe he's just woken up to that fact

(*slightly perjorative)

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 August 2011 10:36 (thirteen years ago)

how the fuck are utd spending so much btw? like lol add another 100m of debt to the billion

Using up the Ronaldo cash that was still sitting in the bank. The real question is how the fuck did the Glazers pay off the PIK debt?

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 11 August 2011 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

My big bro bought Cesc an orange juice when he first came to England. So he says. Think the story was that Cesc was out in Liverpool with some of his mates, who somehow knew a couple of my bro's Spanish mates. Yes.

Chris, Thursday, 11 August 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

According to French publication L’Equipe, representatives of Shakhtar Donetsk playmaker Jadson have travelled to London today to discuss a potential move to Arsenal.

The 27-year-old Brazilian international, who took part in this summer’s Copa America, has spent the last six years plying his trade in the Ukraine having moved to Eastern Europe in 2005 from homeland side Clube Atletico Paranaense.

An experienced operator, who can play either in the centre or on the right side of midfield, Jadson has garnered considerable success in Donetsk winning 5 league titles and helping the Donbass Arena outfit to the 2009 UEFA Cup title.

It is understood that Jadson is under contract until December 2014, but an offer between €8m and €10m could be enough to lure him to pastures new and still afford Arsenal the chance to make further manoeuvres in the transfer market.

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 11 August 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpr9uGM7sto

James Mitchell, Thursday, 11 August 2011 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

at 00:15 is that portuguese for taxi?

nh (cozen), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger: "At the moment we have too big a squad. We are not in a position where we are short of players"
Jesus Christ, lock him up for trying to incite a riot.

James Mitchell, Friday, 12 August 2011 08:38 (thirteen years ago)

we all dream of a team of kieron gibbs

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Friday, 12 August 2011 08:40 (thirteen years ago)

What do you mean? Gibbs has the super quality this side has been lacking.

James Mitchell, Friday, 12 August 2011 08:43 (thirteen years ago)

that's pretty much exactly what i mean, yeah

Wenger is on some self-destructive shit lately

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Friday, 12 August 2011 08:51 (thirteen years ago)

We're going to end up with a situation where squad size rules lead everyone to panic and sell of their actual good players because they can't offload their Bentleys and Velas and whoever.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 August 2011 09:17 (thirteen years ago)

that's a worry, yeah.

Is this crouch/palacios stoke deal a goer i wonder?

And can we really not get rid of bentley jenas or keane at any price?

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Friday, 12 August 2011 09:21 (thirteen years ago)

Don't understand it frankly. Can see why no one would want Keane or Bentley but players like Jenas can do a job and would improve several sides in the Premiership. Presumably Levy's pricing them out of the market, either that or our famously spartan wage structure isn't as stingy as it's made out to be.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 August 2011 09:29 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, looks like Jol wants Jenas at Fulham. Maybe he'll sign Reto Ziegler and Razsiak as well.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 August 2011 09:31 (thirteen years ago)

is palacios really beyond the "good kick up the hole" remedy...seems sad to see a guy who was so great dwindle and end up at stoke. wasn't he being linked to man u halfway through spurs cl-qualifying season?

LocalGarda, Friday, 12 August 2011 09:51 (thirteen years ago)

is palacios really beyond the "good kick up the hole" remedy

I don't think so. It's not like we're overwhelmed with defensive midfield options anyway and I'd like us to hang onto him - he was a first choice midfielder throughout the CL qualifying season. Maybe Redknapp and Levy think we'll actually get decent cash for him but I'm sure he can do better than Stoke. Hell, he'd probably improve Arsenal or Liverpool's squads.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 August 2011 09:57 (thirteen years ago)

at top level he'd be perfect for arsenal, pool have lots of midfielders but i'd take him for sure, not loads of dmcs.

LocalGarda, Friday, 12 August 2011 10:00 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno. When he got bad he stayed bad and it was really bad

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Friday, 12 August 2011 10:06 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah maybe not first choice at Liverpool but, I dunno, if Lucas gets injured do you have anyone who can protect the back four? Your midfield options seem very attack heavy.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 August 2011 10:06 (thirteen years ago)

yeah agreed. tho i think a centre back is next priority.

LocalGarda, Friday, 12 August 2011 10:07 (thirteen years ago)

It's a little bit of an effort to think of players who wouldn't improve Arsenal, in a way. I bet that list would look really like Arsene's 'top targets' list though.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 12 August 2011 10:07 (thirteen years ago)

Arsene's list is lacking that extra two per cent of sharpness at the moment but it is fully committed and has enough quality to deal with the situation.

James Mitchell, Friday, 12 August 2011 10:13 (thirteen years ago)

If lucas gets injured we've got Christian Poulsen!! No worries.

pandemic, Friday, 12 August 2011 10:27 (thirteen years ago)

oh, and if david pleat is to be believed, gerrard is a defensive midfielder.

pandemic, Friday, 12 August 2011 10:28 (thirteen years ago)

surprised it's taking liverpool this long to get round to a cb given how they er, swooped for henderson. why risk a bidding war for cahill/dann by waiting til after arsenal greenlight some spending?

p bored of the stoke bashing btw, give me them over wigan any day.

r|t|c, Friday, 12 August 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

Football fans in preferring well-meaning uselessness to comedy cynicism and thuggery shocker.

I love Stoke, personally. Consistently hilarious.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 August 2011 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno. When he got bad he stayed bad and it was really bad

― 10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Friday, 12 August 2011 11:06 (2 hours ago) Bookmark

normally i'd defend a player from fickle spurs damnation but in this one case the drop in form was bewildering enough to justify. completely appalling whenever i saw him.

r|t|c, Friday, 12 August 2011 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

xp you know what tho, when i think of thuggery i think of the useless excess of it, your michael browns & ben thatchers. ok the shawcross thing happened that time but otherwise stoke are just direct, effective and competently building every year. have some respect.

(the only black mark against them might be how much its actually costing them to get this far but that seems to be an unknown.)

r|t|c, Friday, 12 August 2011 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

also, and contrary to some slander i see on here, jon walters is a good player fuiud

r|t|c, Friday, 12 August 2011 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

I find Stoke almost entirely ignorable tbh. Them bringing the laughs/rage on here is their highest purpose for me.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 12 August 2011 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

while they have shawx they will forever be #1 evil

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Friday, 12 August 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

Will always hate Stoke discussion on ILX for when Pennant signed for them and everyone ignored my "Pennant is coming for a bowl of lobby and he loikes it very much, duck" line.

James Mitchell, Friday, 12 August 2011 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

I thought Stoke were building reasonably cheaply and financially sensibly? Although breaking the bank on Palacios and Crouch may change that. Pennant might be on faintly stupid wages as well I suppose.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 August 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

i know theyre being bankrolled by coates to a large extent even despite the strong support, but outside of transfer fees opinion seems to differ on what kind of wages they're doling out - if dean whitehead is on like 50k a week then it's not so great

r|t|c, Friday, 12 August 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

does strike me i need to stfu before fate arranges them breaking adel

r|t|c, Friday, 12 August 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/fgHi9.png

..says Frank "Frankie 'Fat Frank' Lamps" Lampard.

James Mitchell, Friday, 12 August 2011 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

It's not actually him though is it

Number None, Friday, 12 August 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, it appears not. That would have been very sad were it him.

James Mitchell, Friday, 12 August 2011 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

stoke are ok are stokie

Pulis clumsily trying to build a siege mentality around them is prob their most objectionable characteristic. Your boys are big boys tony they can take a little stick

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Friday, 12 August 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

pulis' hat fucking annoys me. looks like he's in the NRA or going fishing constantly.

LocalGarda, Friday, 12 August 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

Steampunk Stoke are great, love em.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Friday, 12 August 2011 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

Jose Enrique insists his £6million switch from Newcastle to Liverpool is all about glory - not cash.

Weird thing to have to say. Why would anyone in their right mind stay at Newcastle when they could move to Liverpool?

Matt DC, Friday, 12 August 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

hang on what year is it?

Looking for Ms Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 August 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

he was in contract negotiations with newcastle so presumably he could be accused of leaving purely cos they didn't offer him enough or whatever.

LocalGarda, Friday, 12 August 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

well, dunno if he actually began negotiations but nufc wanted to.

LocalGarda, Friday, 12 August 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

Just for the record: I have nothing against Stoke, either.

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 12 August 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

I thought Stoke were a brave side last season

publier les (suggest) bans de (Michael White), Friday, 12 August 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

It's useful to have a pool of sides you don't much care about, in the event of close relegation scraps and such, so for that reason I vaguely approve of them.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 12 August 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

Bolton's new signing Chris Eagles has questioned the wisdom of going ahead with Saturday's Premier League opener at QPR.

'If you're playing you never know what might happen. They could ransack the pitch.

'You don't know what they're capable of. We want to be safe. If a fire blows up you could get caught in the middle of it.'

r|t|c, Friday, 12 August 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

That's the Bolton spirit!

Gukbe, Friday, 12 August 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

Chris Eagles o_O

Didn't know he was EPL worthy (still).

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 12 August 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nhcv6Ho3ic

Looking for Ms Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

We're 4-4-2 with Fletcher and Doyle up front. And Maierhofer on the bench! Maybe I'm still pished from last night. Maybe we shd've tried to get a left back during the close.

Looking for Ms Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

Looking at the Liverpool and Sunderland teams, this must be a pretty exciting moment to be a fan of either - such different looking lineups to last season. Gonna watch this game I think - intrigued by nu-Liverpool.

Matt DC, Saturday, 13 August 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

YES FOOTBALL IS BACK YAY

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

That had to be a red card. First reaction was a dive though.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

LOLs Suarez

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

Aw jeez. Going to be a long season.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

dive, red card, lol

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

Keiron Dyer injured? NO WAY

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

It wasn't a dive btw, he just made it look like one. If that isn't a red though, what is?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

ok not a dive.

This craic about 'he was heading away from goal' is fuckin nonsense, that's a red all day

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

xp

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

That'll do. They're looking great so far.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

suarez top goalscorer

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

If he can do that in every game then Charlie Adam will be a fucking brilliant signing for you guys.

Matt DC, Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

gerrard who-llier

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

stream sucks. doyle currently sporting a turban. blackburn making all the running so far. ward still shit.

Looking for Ms Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

suarez looks the shit tbh

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

i've currently only got final score on - ilx wanna pick a game for me to stream?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

penalty to wigan.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

oh awesome, 4 stooges in defence, Blackburn 1-0

Looking for Ms Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

wigan scored, norwich losing.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

Anyone know a decent stream for the Liverpool game? My usual avenues aren't cutting it today

Number None, Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

fletcher :D f u venkys

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

im gonna go qpr-bolton

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

FLETCHER

Looking for Ms Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

this stream is stuttery as fuck :(

Blackburn worse than us at the back sans Samba

referee given us fuck all, wd like to see whether Stearman dived for a yellow or whether it was a penalty on a proper picture

why the fuck do we only wake up when we go behind? going forward we've got some real quality now imo

Looking for Ms Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

Lee Cattermole is such a disgusting little shit. I just hate the very sight of him. Adam-Suarez-Downing will be such a creative force - you want to hope Carroll is worth the money with that lot behind him.

Matt DC, Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

Villa not terrible, yet

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez-Downing just seems like too hilarious a contrast in characters to not automatically work somehow

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

referee gives us a free kick and the crowd goes wild. otm

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

That was nearly amazing from Downing.

Matt DC, Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

Aww NV

You really got me rooting for Wolves tbh

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

playing ok tbh, Doyle is immense, Johnson looks a great signing, Jarvis is waste, Ward not even waste, O'Hara trying much too hard and fucking up a lot, defence still way too raggedy, think De Vries will be getting first team football pretty soon

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

fucking O'Hara has done nothing but misplace Hollywood passes all half

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

The Fulham - Villa game is picking up a bit as the first half winds down. Not a bad opener so far from Villa.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

Oof, agricultural from Carragher there.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

That was appalling actually.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah EZ, looks like the defence is back to the frighteningly last ditch but broadly effective glories of the 09/10 season

Senderos is in frightened caveman mode a bit for Fulham

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

carragher should have been sent off at least twice for that, what a tool

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

decent first half, too much reliance on the long ball to Doyle but he's been fantastic, Hunt and Fletcher pretty good but Fletcher disappears for stretches imo. Mick needs to tell O'Hara to chill the fuck out second half, with a two man centre midfield he's got to carry the ball more and get a rhythm going. Christ we need full backs, again, and the fact that we don't have another CB on the bench is scary, even tho Stearman cd come into the middle when McCarthy subs Foley on about 10 minutes into the second half.

Shd look to be beating these tbh, Blackburn look mostly as bad as everybody thinks, at the back at least.

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

internet dies just as this game finally starts to look interesting? i blame flavio

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

Bolton goal: That is a jaffer - and from a most unlikely source. It's a touch against the run of play but Bolton care not, Chris Eagles teeing up centre-half Gary Cahill to take a touch and spank home a doozy from 25 yards into the top corner.

when he says "a most unlikely source" he better be referring to the fuckin Chris Eagles assist

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

lol truth

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

wtf is a jaffer?

Number None, Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

I think in the BBC live text parlance it refers to a goal which particularly embodies the quality of being "off-bang on and the off"

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah EZ, looks like the defence is back to the frighteningly last ditch but broadly effective glories of the 09/10 season

Totally. That Warnock block was the kind of effort missing from last season.

But if we're counting on Collins to finish, even when he's entirely unmarked, it'll be another long year.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

xp

think it's bbc slang for a cunted strike

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

shit Jarvis has a won a "penalty"

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

nah it's legit on the replay

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

bollocks Robinson makes a good save from Doyle

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

and the stream dies in protest

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

yes-no-yes

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

(in other words, you did score in the end nv)

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

In topshop w/ the mrs, fml

r|t|c, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

sweet i wondered, could see somebody running onto it as the picture froze

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

On-bang off-and the on penalty action from the Wolves there

Bobby Z putting two really good chances straight at Given

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

haha it was Wardy

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

the twat

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

Fulham came out with some fire to start the second. Villa better get it together.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

my stream has decided that pool-sndrlnd more interesting to come back to in the second half, wise move imo

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

Sunderland!

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

Peach

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck off Heskey, I can't believe he and Agbonlahor are a starting pair of forwards in 11-12.

boxall, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

LARSSON: Gareth Bale of the 11/12

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

We've been offering up too many quarter-chances today, when a good one came up they were ready for it.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

Gyan and Sessegnon look pretty dangerous together - could be a terrific partnership.

Matt DC, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

now i've got a working picture again it looks like i've won my bet with our elliot that Foley wd be our first substitute of the new season. we're playing some nice shit tho, not saying Doyle-Fletcher will set the division on fire but they might cause a few friction burns

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

Back to good old Dirk

Number None, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool '77 slightly delayed?

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

Roberts is gonna get a double yellow for dissent in a minute

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

'... and Heskey takes too long to get off a shot."

Sigh.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

It's Goodwillie time

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

Heskey should've retired 3 seasons ago

historyyy (prettylikealaindelon), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

u mis-typed 10 there

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

Goodwillie on for Pedersen, kinda glad they've took Pedersen off tbh

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

Johnson's carrying a knock :(

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

we need to kill this game. so let's bring Big George on for Jarvis.

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

I'd forgotten all about Meireles, rocking a Travis Bickle look today.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

1627: Not exactly a goal-fest yet today is it? Worry not, though, people - Newcastle v Arsenal is on later. There's no chance of that not throwing up some goals.

one bbc meme i hate is 'goals = good football everything else sucks'

also journalists having their picture/mugshot involved is neveragl

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

oh, QPR.

jel --, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

Warnock out :(

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

everyone out, 'cept abel

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool's been really entertaining imo, hope they keep up this routine of one half of creative attacking football and a second of just ruining it all for lols the whole season.

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

Riise (elder) going to be good for Fulham I think.

boxall, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

QPR getting trashed

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

Barton startin'

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

Bolton need to get the goal-scoring in early. Upcoming fixture list means there'll be a lot of sitting back/getting thrashed.

Gukbe, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

i thought barton had left?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

No takers yet on a free transfer.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

Maierhofer gets 2 minutes :|

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

Stephen Hunt man of the match imo

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

That's a pretty weak ending from Liverpool.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4UqMyldS7Q&ob=av3n

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

Fletcher-Hunt-Doyle pretty magnif, O'Hara settled down 2nd half, need full backs, probly need to give Hennessey some time off to practice dealing with high balls, need Johnson to never get injured.

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

Song-Rosicky-Ramsey midfield, presume it'll be AA-Gervinho-RVP upfront.

― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:53 (0 seconds ago)

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

I'll take a point on the road to start the season.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

NV and Mick.gif have really made me root for Wolves

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

tbf me and Mick.gif are more attractive than watching us play, mostly

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

nah stop moaning that was a deserved 3 points

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

So, the season has only just begun but already the table has a familiar look to it with Bolton at the top and Wolves hot on their heels in second place.

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

NV, for above your bed:

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu216/le_bateau_ivre/wolves.png

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

will still be in the CL spots tomorrow morning then.

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

A point apiece probably the right result at Craven Cottage, with a tiring Villa back line digging in to hold on against a clearly more match fit Fulham. The Cottagers will likely feel they would have come away with the three points if Andrew Johnson had been partnered up front by someone less of a duffer than Bobby Zamora. Villa for their part look to have a solid foundation to build on but their restless fans will doubtless demand more pronounced vigour of attacking intent as they begi

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

congrats to Mr NV. LFC flatter to deceive as per usual. Suarez is a God. Carragher has no business being in a top 4 defense so just as well he's at Liverpool really.

pandemic, Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

they're still top 4 dude

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

anybody who doesn't build that Liverpool side around Suarez is an idiot, fwiw

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

scores pls. Just finished shopping. Ffs

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

It was a cracking first half but ran into the sand somewhat.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

Bburn 1 Wolves 2
QPR 0 Bolton 4
LFC 1 S'Land 1
Fulham 0 Villa 0
Wigan 1 Norwich 1

pandemic, Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

1702: Bolton and Wolves fans - may I suggest you print off the Premier League table this very minute for a cut-out-and-keep moment to show the grandkids in years to come?

i hate this demeaning bullshit

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

1702: Bolton and Wolves fans - may I suggest you print off the Premier League table this very minute for a cut-out-and-keep moment to show the grandkids in years to come? At this rate, both teams will finish the season on 114 points each with the title decided on goal difference. Actually, they have to play each other don't they? So that can't happen. Oh dear... brain... melting...

I like to track the point where if this was in a pub Lyon would be glassed by the people he was speaking to

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

haha, xpost.

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

Darragh, it was Spurs P Everton P (as a result of you 'shoppers')

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

gosh as a fan of lowly Wolverhampton Wanderers it is indeed a treat to see the side in a position they've never attained before

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GdiNk3-IPE

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

Just think Noodle you've got trips to places like that Old Trafford and Anfield to come. Coo. What a day out those will be. Could you ever have dreamed?

pandemic, Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

Lyon is now quoting the MOTD editor tweet which appears immediately to the right of the text in the Twitter feed

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

^^ yeah just noticed that too ;_;

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

Nice to see them calling the Arse by their name, at least

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

Song following Meireles in going for a bit of a Bickle. Arsenal look like Arsenal, but Gervinho looks like he could be pretty direct.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

yup. ramsey been a bit too gareth barry for my liking, not enough cesc.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

OMFG AAAAAAARGH

i cant remember the last time i saw a team spend so much time in the oppositions box without having any sign of a chance let alone scoring

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

do all teams look like arsenal does today at the beginning of the season? or is this a special type of awful?

J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal are sort of unique in the Premier League in tending to cut through the opposition midfield like a hot knife through butter then reaching the penalty area and skilfully passing the ball with great accuracy to a defender

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

first game of the season is traditionally cagey and sucks balls. we aren't awful*, just frustrating.

*in control defensively and in possession, regularly getting in the box, just fucking up time and again with the last ball.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

Like Barcelona's sometimes frustrating refusal to shoot is usually in service of the creepily clockwork-like greater plan, but Arse's penalty area spazz-outs are maddening and inexplicable

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

It's tantric football guys

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

I wouldn't be surprised to see Arshavin pulled off (lol) for Theo or Chamakh 10 minutes into the second half.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

Calling either of these sides' first 45 awful is way over the top.

boxall, Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

More importantly, who made the decision that the first team should play in knock-off strips?

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

And yes, Arshavin has clearly decided that he's not arsed to run at a defence that's clearly gagging for it, so bring on the Walcott.

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

God that was poor. Carroll, I just, eurgh.

Chris, Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

'11/'12 season notable so far only for the discovery that Veetle works on my phone.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

gervinho's a diving cunt. ryan taylor never touched him...

nah he didn't dive... his forehead just got too heavy...

do I hear 51, 51, 51... I'll give you 51, 51, 51 (cozen), Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

This may be stating the completely blindingly obvious but no one who's played today is getting anywhere near the title.

Matt DC, Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

bitter Spurs fan ruling us out already

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

only got one song (unless he gets sent off)

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

dunno why Theo wasn't on from the beginning, no surprises seeing Arshavin so lazily impotent.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

I like Song a bit more after that Barton stamp.

Matt DC, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

How about the new boy?

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

wtf?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

That's some bullshit.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

OH FUCK OFF

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

gervinho gets started on: gets a red.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

OH FUCK YOU ONLY A FUCKING YELLOW WHAT IS FUCKING WRONG WITH YOU

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

can't wait for Barton to sign for Arsenal in a couple of days now.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

Much more simulation from Barton than Gervinho there.

boxall, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

oh shit joey barton gets touched, goes down like he's shot

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

The ref's been reading his Twitter. He likes the Field Mice, there's no way he could be involved in any trouble.

Matt DC, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

No one's signing Barton now, he's waiting out his contract at Newcastle.

Matt DC, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

Those decisions were all correct, although Barton is a terrible person

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

two games at st james park - two unjust sending offs for joey being a dick.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

how does barton not get a red for that?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

he's just picked a man up and shouted at him cos he done a dive ain't he

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:14 (thirteen years ago)

he manhandled him and pushed him about - i've seen reds for a lot less

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

With Mp4xA, gervinho raises his hands therefore needs to go, Barton probably guilty of Ungentlemanly Conduct in pulling him up so yellow?

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago)

he pulled him up pretty violently and was getting well into it, isn't there a rule for provocation?

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

what arsenal have lacked in continuity inside the box, they have up for it with interesting hairstyles

J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

two games at st james park - two unjust sending offs for joey being a dick

Oh come on, you'll be telling us that's why it ended 4-4 next.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

Yanked him by the collar too violently to be just 'ungentlemanly conduct' for me.

boxall, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, going on a (possibly imagined) distinction between grabbing a guy above or below the neck - without anyone going nucular and touching the face there that gets dismissed as "handbags" and the ref gets praised for having common sense and not being tempted to send anyone off. Barton aggravating it and being an obvious dick complicates it and makes it seem unfair, but enh

Happy to be blown away by Caek Referee Veracity when the time comes though

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

The greatest trick Joey Barton ever pulled was distracting everyone from the fact he's been awful as an actual player today.

boxall, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

Barton will definitely give a perplexed, faux-angelic post match interview, if Newcastle let him

Barton's scowling Bickle face on the MOTD big screen as Shearer disapprovingly says "Jooey's a very lookee boy thur"

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno, none of it would have happened if he didn't PICK THE GUY UP TO FUCK WITH HIM. That isn't just handbags imo.

Our backline, keeper, Song, Rosicky and Gervinho been v good today, the rest have been gash and unfortunately the rest is where games are won. Wilshere and Theo for Ramsey and Arshavin and we will look a hell of a lot better. Gibbs's crossing in this one game >>> Clichy's Arsenal crossing career.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

just discovered that theo walcott has the same number of club goals as his predecessor franny jeffers (36, fwiw)

nakhchivan, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

imo should have been three red cards: Song, then Barton and Gervinho

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

Seriously, Barton's picking up of Gervinho was a much more aggressive move than the pathetic tap he received in return. The ostentatious shaking of everyone's hand at the end was sickening too

Number None, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

joey barton 'is' 'a legend'

nakhchivan, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:34 (thirteen years ago)

Apparently nowhere in FIFA's Laws of the Game does it say that raised hands = automatic red card.

Chris, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

Much like "last defender, he's got to go"

Number None, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

Or "he got the ball first"

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago)

"lost control of the ball"

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

Just checked the laws and indeed no mention of raised hands = automatic red. Where the fuck did that come from?

Chris, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

Anything about raised eyebrows?

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

Nothing I'm afraid.

Chris, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

The laws of the game are pretty vague and there are a lot of generally agreed customs on how they should be interpreted

some of them seem to be pretty enshrined, eg the "raising the hands to the face = red, below the neck = yellow" thing seems to be a fairly accurate model for how refs react to those kind of things; some of them are just imaginary shit, like how a defender "getting the ball" leads to pundits wrongly claiming a bad tackle was fair 10 times a match

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

arbitrary rules are awes fuiud

nakhchivan, Saturday, 13 August 2011 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i think the hand raised to the face is almost always interpreted as "violent conduct". the "last man back" is usually shorthand for saying "denied a clear goal-scoring opportunity" and in 95 percent of situations where a foul stops a player being one on one with the keeper that seems fair enough.

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

can be trumped by "heading away from goal" though, like Richardson on Suarez today

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 13 August 2011 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

If only that were true of penalty decisions in the box as well Eboue wouldn't have conceded one against Lucas in the 1-1 late last season.

boxall, Saturday, 13 August 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

a foul is a foul is a foul, that's different to whether or not a particular challenge merits a red or a yellow

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

Flanno's been impressive but I don't know why Kelly didn't start.

Aquilani is surely off. In a way I'll be glad cos I'm bored of this now.

Why did we look so unfit in the 2nd half? Ok match sharpness mightn't have been totally there but there's no excuse for not actually being able to move around the pitch.

Dirk's an absolute legend.

Downing looked good.

Enrique looked like he'd been playing for us for years, really excited about him.

Might've been harsh on Carroll earlier.

So Carragher remains a 1st choice CB this season by the look of it - bye bye playing a high defensive line, hello massive gap between the back 4 and launching long balls to Carroll.

Chris, Saturday, 13 August 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

said before i'd be worried by playing to Carroll's strengths. Carra as 1st choice is a bit of a joke tbh (but fuck we started Berra today). Downing will prove to be the best signing you've made this close season.

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2011 19:54 (thirteen years ago)

downing is a good player but customatily overpriced

enrique is also a good player but at a good price

nakhchivan, Saturday, 13 August 2011 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

-arily

nakhchivan, Saturday, 13 August 2011 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

what formation were liverpool playing today, was adam played on the wing

nakhchivan, Saturday, 13 August 2011 19:58 (thirteen years ago)

carragher should have walked.

ref right about barton/gervinho imo. Would have preferred two yellows for gervinho for dive, but slap to face always accepted as a red. Talk about barton red for 'violently' picking him up is, frankly, embarrassing.

Hope song gets banned.

Walcott was shit when he came on, dunno what match i was watching tbh????.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

ya walcott looked pretty much like walcott so

nakhchivan, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

4-4-1-1 I'd say - Lucas and Adam in the middle, Henderson on the right, Downing on the left. Carroll seemed to drop deep a lot and linked up quite well in the 1st half, think Lucas and Adam supported the attacks well - was willing that shot from Lucas to go in. Henderson was quiet from what I can remember. Easy in hindsight but surprised that Kuyt didn't start. Love Dirk.

Waddle's still saying peLanty isn't he.

Chris, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

I liked a lot about Liverpool today, the fluidity has been carried over from last season which is nice especially as so much of the team is new. But within that Carragher really sticks out for immobility. It knocks on to Agger too, who looks about to be caught in possession at times because Carragher standing still takes an option away from him. Flanagan got caught out a few times but will get better. Suarez' obvious vast superiority to everyone, bar conceivably Downing, worries me a bit, because a title-pushing side needs five players of that quality and noone's close.

Carroll just troubles me, I can't see where he fits here.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

title pushing

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

carroll doesn't need to fit in but as an end point, imo. Crouch could be useful if redknapp/himself cultivated that view. Same with d bent. Everyone do their job, he'll do his.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, you know what I mean - how many years is it going to take to get to that place?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

henderson, kuyt, neither rly gonna be rw but i suppose if they can work an overlap w/johnson then it'll look better in time

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

The utter shite 2nd half has somehow erased the 1st half from my memory; will have to watch it again.

Henderson ever play RW for Sunderland? Not that he can't learn the position or adapt, just wondering. Don't remember much about him from last season tbh.

Chris, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

Also, people who flick through their programme at the footy during the match are truly awful and shouldn't be anywhere near a football ground.

Chris, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

Barton startin'

― MPx4A, Saturday, August 13, 2011 4:44 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

Another prophetic post by me there, by the way

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

dmac yeah theo was shit today.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

jonawils Jonathan Wilson
@cognoscentinovo Barton shd have gone for violent conduct: grabbing somebody by the shirt and hauling them to their feet is violent.
44 minutes ago

@cognoscentinovo
@jonawils so hauling somebody off the ground is an offence under the laws of the game?
41 minutes ago

jonawils Jonathan Wilson
@cognoscentinovo Violent conduct is; and that was, to me, violent. Thank you for actually saying what you disagree with.
39 minutes ago

boxall, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

jwilson full off shit

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

It's such a bullshit distinction though. Like, the tiny little tap that Barton got is somehow worse than him manhandling Gervinho which was what started the whole thing anyway?

Number None, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

cmon this is not something that jumped up on ppl today at 7pm

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

You could argue Song's unnoticed stamp started the whole thing, in that you can't expect someone as full of himself as Barton to, excuse the catchphrase, 'get on with the game' after that foul. But a more professional player could have.

boxall, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

someone calling themselves 'cognoscentinovo' rmde

nakhchivan, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

He was just the interlocutor, not endorsing the preciousness of his handle or anything.

boxall, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

I enjoyed Obertan's couple of little moments in the sun today. Cult hero in the making i reckon.

Number None, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah he was good I thought, would play him and Ben Arfa/Marveaux as R/L wings ahead of Barton + Jonas.

boxall, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

Good day for the Utd castoffs actually, what with Wes Brown picking up a man of the match

Number None, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

that one obertan flick to cabaye was sweet

mizzell, Saturday, 13 August 2011 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't even know we'd sold Obertan until I sat down to watch the second half of that match.

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 13 August 2011 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

Thought this was funny - maybe you're watching the wrong sport?

cognoscentinovo
Cognoscentinovo
In 7 years of martial arts training (black belt 1st dan) "picking somebody up" has never been, so far, a useful violent technique.
17 minutes ago

boxall, Saturday, 13 August 2011 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

Hope you're sitting down NBS, we sold John O'Shea as well

Number None, Saturday, 13 August 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 13 August 2011 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

Please tell me we still have Bebe?

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 13 August 2011 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

There's good news and bad news...

Number None, Saturday, 13 August 2011 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

lol

pandemic, Saturday, 13 August 2011 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

Having not seen it earlier, that was a horrible dive by Suarez for the penalty

Number None, Saturday, 13 August 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

It was a penalty though. Maybe the theatrics influenced the ref to only give a yellow, in which case fair enough (even if hisnext touch would have been to pass the ball in).

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 13 August 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

Absolute letter of the law it's a penalty, but Richardson basically just just lays his hands on Suarez and he clips his legs together and swan dives. We all know he's a seasoned diver though so it's not a surprise.

Number None, Saturday, 13 August 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

Looking for a penalty + red card shouldn't be a more attractive option than just scoring, really.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 13 August 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

thought richardson catches his back leg?

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 August 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

Not to my eyes and i just watched it multiple times on MOTD

Number None, Saturday, 13 August 2011 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

hmm

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 August 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

Joey7Barton Joseph Barton
Bad shirt, shoes and views from shearer again. Sort it out slaphead......

Number None, Saturday, 13 August 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

Oh I love it

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 August 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

lol

nakhchivan, Saturday, 13 August 2011 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

He's also admitted he dived to get Gervinho sent off.

Number None, Saturday, 13 August 2011 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

piersmorgan Piers Morgan

@Joey7Barton if it was all about being macho, I'd be in Arsenal's starting line-up tomorrow....

nakhchivan, Saturday, 13 August 2011 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

oh god i shouldn't be quoting from twitter but joey barton is just the best irl troll

nakhchivan, Saturday, 13 August 2011 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

@RealArshavin: It is good to know @Joey7Barton goes down as easy as my first girlfriend.. #limplikealadyboy

Gukbe, Saturday, 13 August 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

that's never him

MPx4A, Saturday, 13 August 2011 23:13 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/incoming/article744197.ece/ALTERNATES/gallery-large/sagna.jpg

Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp is plotting a sensational swoop for Arsenal full-back Bacary Sagna.

And it is believed Sagna would be prepared to make the move to the Gunners’ bitter north London rivals.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Tottenham-Hotspur-plot-swoop-for-Arsenal-defender-Bacary-Sagna-article785216.html

James Mitchell, Sunday, 14 August 2011 06:12 (thirteen years ago)

That Sagna story is obvious bullshit.

Dunno about Carroll, by all accounts he should be great and he'll get a shedload of service but I dunno, could be a Spurs 2011 situation.

Matt DC, Sunday, 14 August 2011 08:50 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll's too expensive not to play, which is a problem in itself

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 August 2011 09:04 (thirteen years ago)

not sure the story itself was what was being pointed out there with sagna

r|t|c, Sunday, 14 August 2011 10:45 (thirteen years ago)

didnt see any of the liverpool game but 4-4-1-1 doesnt strike me as the best use of talents available tbh

r|t|c, Sunday, 14 August 2011 10:48 (thirteen years ago)

The Sagna story is almost as false as the photo they used.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 14 August 2011 10:58 (thirteen years ago)

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/725/campbellpresentation.png

Joel Campbell gets to work recycling Coke bottles to make his own 'official' shirt.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 14 August 2011 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

1st half of Stoke-Chelsea was great wasn't it.

Chris, Sunday, 14 August 2011 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

Torres, you horrible little fucker

Number None, Sunday, 14 August 2011 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

It appears the red-nosed old foul-mouthed drunk is playing his second string side against West Brom, hope the Baggies kick them off the park.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 14 August 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

creatively bankrupt oldish Chelsea post-AvGrant midfielders whose reputations are just '00s detrita

Oh wait, Benayoun is coming on for two minutes.

boxall, Sunday, 14 August 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

I think you'll find that's the new look Utd team. Nothing second string about it my friend

Number None, Sunday, 14 August 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

assuming i'm mid road trip without radio, what's the happy haps

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Sunday, 14 August 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

Stoke 0-0 Chelsea FT

boxall, Sunday, 14 August 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

what'd torres

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Sunday, 14 August 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

'lively', 'sharp'

boxall, Sunday, 14 August 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

ta

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Sunday, 14 August 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

smalling is a right back?

mizzell, Sunday, 14 August 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

can be, was good there last week iirc?

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Sunday, 14 August 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

torres shd have had a penalty in that game. Stoke are wretched to watch. Loathsome.

pandemic, Sunday, 14 August 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

torres did look good imo. was he being booed at the start? do people just hate him now cos he's such a cranky child?

LocalGarda, Sunday, 14 August 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

why would torres be unpopular?

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Sunday, 14 August 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

cranky child

LocalGarda, Sunday, 14 August 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

Torres also executed one of the most spectacularly lame dives i've ever seen. Hopefully there'll be a gif of it at some point

Number None, Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

he just can't do anything right atm

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

Rafael dislocated his shoulder in training, is the reason Smalling's playing at right back. He was good there in the Charity Shield, as Darragh said

Number None, Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

Good goal by United's new young striker with a full head of hair

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

To Graeme Souness's assertion that Roman Abramovich had indulged in "an enormous gamble" in triggering his £13.2 million (Dh78.3m) buyout there, he cheerily compares results.

"Souness made comments about it being easy to win at Porto," says Villas-Boas. "It was easy to win at Liverpool in the '90s and the '80s, wasn't it? But he was five years there and didn't win anything."

Luís André de Zinger Cabral e Villas-Boas

James Mitchell, Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

BOOM! Souness pwned.

pandemic, Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFDxP2gDCxA

LocalGarda, Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

not to defend souness but get yer facts right andre

LocalGarda, Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

The former Liverpool and Sampdoria enforcer will be having none of it. 'I'd like to see him say that on the pitch. Except he never actually played football did he?' Souness will have said to himself.

nakhchivan, Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

The BBC's 'I went down easy, admits Barton' is a bit of a forehead slapper, particularly given their craven refusal to discuss the bombs Barton dropped on Shearer's Island shortly after

MPx4A, Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

Shearer's Island: The erudite and charming ex-England man holds a football camp for soldiers who have recently returned from Afghanistan on a small Pacific Island. Each week one of "our boys" is voted off by the public as Alan puts them through their paces with a series of football related tasks. The group will also spend time with locals and learn about the island's unique indigenous culture. Coming soon to Channel 5.

LocalGarda, Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

Dodgy keeper

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Baggies keeping our 2nd place hopes alive

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

Gotta say offloading Gomes on United was a stroke of genius from Harry.

Matt DC, Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/9/2010/324x324/1901746.jpg

James Mitchell, Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

Might have to rethink having Rooney in my fantasy team. Feels too wrong to be happy when he scores. Leaves me feeling dirty tbh
Well done Ireland's Shane Long.

pandemic, Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

Great half.

boxall, Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

Thought United looked very good (apart from Taibi)

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

There's no point condemning De Gea at this stage, but it's certainly gonna make things interesting this season.

Number None, Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

it's not condemning him to say he's been pure shit so far, tbf. It's just accurate feedback

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Sunday, 14 August 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

For us it is, but if one of his teammates starts tweeting the same accurate feedback or w/e, that would probably not be helpful for the development of a 20-year-old keeper.

boxall, Sunday, 14 August 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

Wilshere took indirect shots at Arshavin & Gervinho yesterday over said medium, it was dispiriting. Misspelled the latter's name twice as well.

boxall, Sunday, 14 August 2011 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

Seems reasonable for people who don't like Man Utd to want to contribute to a pressure cooker atmosphere around their goalkeeper which may result in him going mental and throwing a load of goals in over the course of the season

MPx4A, Sunday, 14 August 2011 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

only reasonable if necessary

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Sunday, 14 August 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

Anderson was great for 20 minutes, then went on a 40-yard-sprint past three or four players around 21' (leading I think to Nani shooting over), and I don't think he's caught his breath yet.

boxall, Sunday, 14 August 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

Vidic and Ferdinand both crocked already

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 14 August 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

Ferdinand injured? You surprise me.

pandemic, Sunday, 14 August 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

Hurrah!

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 14 August 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

United's Mr Reliable strikes again.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 14 August 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

I thought luck was a lady

Gukbe, Sunday, 14 August 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

og in a return to form!

pandemic, Sunday, 14 August 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

If he can recapture his 09-10 form Utd will walk this.

pandemic, Sunday, 14 August 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

Maddening refusal by De Gea to take advantage of Foster being out of his net. Could have totally redeemed himself

Number None, Sunday, 14 August 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

"Sort it out slaphead" - please sign Joey Barton Harry!

jel --, Sunday, 14 August 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.drudgesiren.com/siren.gif ARSENAL PLACE BID FOR BARCELONA'S FABREGAS, STRIKER VAN INJURY CLAIMS CESC SHOULD SIGN 'DUE TO HIS SUPER QUALITY AND ISLINGTON DNA' http://www.drudgesiren.com/siren.gif

James Mitchell, Sunday, 14 August 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

r keane gone to galaxy!

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Sunday, 14 August 2011 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

r keane gone to galaxy!

http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/180509-1/Cheerleaders_freakout.gif

Did we get any money for him?

Slice Me Nice (ShariVari), Sunday, 14 August 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

Hollywood DNA?

boxall, Sunday, 14 August 2011 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

For balance and to ensure it's not overlooked, Fat Frank is a diving shit btw

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 14 August 2011 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

Lampard was a bit more subtle than Torres but yeah, agreed.

Number None, Sunday, 14 August 2011 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

WOODGATE???

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 14 August 2011 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

maybe it's because I can't remember his playing style and am judging only on continental hairstyle, but Woodgate seems a bit classy for Stoke's provincial pub brawler shtick.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 14 August 2011 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

that or there aren't enough azn ppl in stoke for him to attack

nakhchivan, Sunday, 14 August 2011 23:02 (thirteen years ago)

woodgate's the archetype classy centre half, yeah

Did he really have to move from boro because CONTROVERSIAL MODERATOR EDIT

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Sunday, 14 August 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

woah woah, wait a second. seriously, what was the deal with that sagnarooney hybrid pic cos it's freaking me out??

second only to popcorn (or something), Monday, 15 August 2011 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

cudiccini to celtic rumour on the go. seems improbable imo.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 15 August 2011 00:33 (thirteen years ago)

cudicini even

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 15 August 2011 00:34 (thirteen years ago)

Is that what they did to Sagna's face? I knew it looked wrong but I couldn't imagine how or why it would have been doctored.

boxall, Monday, 15 August 2011 00:42 (thirteen years ago)

exactly, why? it's nightmarish.

second only to popcorn (or something), Monday, 15 August 2011 00:55 (thirteen years ago)

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/54598000/jpg/_54598424_54598422.jpg

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 02:09 (thirteen years ago)

Express and Star keep bumping this "Arsenal Swoop for Jarv" rumour oh god please please please

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 August 2011 07:05 (thirteen years ago)

He looks too much like Senderos, never happening.

James Mitchell, Monday, 15 August 2011 07:57 (thirteen years ago)

Stoke City star Jermaine Pennant has left the mother of his child for a North Staffordshire glamour model.

The winger has dumped 27-year-old fiancee Lara Murphy for Hartshill's Alice Goodwin.

Maybe she get to keep the Porsche.

James Mitchell, Monday, 15 August 2011 08:22 (thirteen years ago)

*gets*

James Mitchell, Monday, 15 August 2011 08:23 (thirteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure Woodgate played virtually every game for Boro, god knows how he managed that.

AVB is already moaning about Stoke's style of play WELCOME BACK TO ENGLAND, ANDRE.

Matt DC, Monday, 15 August 2011 09:22 (thirteen years ago)

lesson for Barton here - proper hard man Alan Shearer barely blinks but the slapper is still sent off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10WpPVyoAZ0

iirc Keane said in his book his only regret about this incident is that he didn't throw a punch instead. I'm sure Gervinho feels the same way.

the other onimo that runs the laboured dn (onimo), Monday, 15 August 2011 09:24 (thirteen years ago)

well yeah, as well be dismissed for a sheep as for a lamb

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 15 August 2011 09:26 (thirteen years ago)

More LOLz from Kenny

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Monday, 15 August 2011 09:57 (thirteen years ago)

Five ex-Celtic players managing in the Premiership!

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Monday, 15 August 2011 09:58 (thirteen years ago)

Yet only one in the SPL, managing Celtic. I wonder why Scottish chairman are so much less likely to employ former Celtic players as managers...

the other onimo that runs the laboured dn (onimo), Monday, 15 August 2011 10:34 (thirteen years ago)

Five and a half, if Owen Coyle turning out for Celtic Legends counts

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Monday, 15 August 2011 10:35 (thirteen years ago)

I think the phrase commonly used round these parts for Coyle is "Celtic minded".

the other onimo that runs the laboured dn (onimo), Monday, 15 August 2011 10:40 (thirteen years ago)

Not 'alf!

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Monday, 15 August 2011 10:43 (thirteen years ago)

Dalglish, Lambert, McCarthy, Kean - who's number five?

Merdeyeux, Monday, 15 August 2011 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

oh yeah, Moyes. NVRMND

Merdeyeux, Monday, 15 August 2011 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

Kean's a bit of a stretch tbh - he never made a first team appearance.

the other onimo that runs the laboured dn (onimo), Monday, 15 August 2011 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

Oh shit John Obi Mikel's dad kidnapped in Nigeria...

Matt DC, Monday, 15 August 2011 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

aw fuck

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 15 August 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

aw fuck

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

song charged

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

fucking PRS at it again

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 August 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

lol

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

Man City squad: £249m
Swansea squad: £12m

boxall, Monday, 15 August 2011 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

Getting rid of Robbie Keane: Priceless

Number None, Monday, 15 August 2011 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

haha
thought keane retired when he left Liverpool tbh, or earlier.

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

mccourt for liverpool must be mega fake surely

do I hear 51, 51, 51... I'll give you 51, 51, 51 (cozen), Monday, 15 August 2011 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

if ever a squad needed a difficult midfielder to fit into a system...

the other onimo that runs the laboured dn (onimo), Monday, 15 August 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

5live making this sound like city being pwned?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

boring match so far, neither side really on top

the other onimo that runs the laboured dn (onimo), Monday, 15 August 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

Aguero and Super Mario on the bench :(

the other onimo that runs the laboured dn (onimo), Monday, 15 August 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

mancini hates fun

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, city are battlin for 3rd again already this season

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 15 August 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

^tbomb xp

Silva looking lively, City starting to up the pressure.

the other onimo that runs the laboured dn (onimo), Monday, 15 August 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

That was beautiful, I'm not going to complain about this team as long as they keep two of Johnson Silva & Aguero on the pitch at all times.

boxall, Monday, 15 August 2011 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

dzeko still available for the fantasy thing i wonders

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 15 August 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

"The central defender should get the cigar out." Mark 'Lawro' Lawrenson, 15/08/2011

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

i've been folding it over in my mind and i still have no idea what he was on about.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

ok that was 2 minutes of alan green and lawro perving on someone. FUCKING AWKWARD and I hope someone recorded it and its on youtube by half time.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

srs downright creepy and i may have nightmares. they then discussed whether green should have called de jong 'unsexy'

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

was it joe hart?

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

revealing your biases there pandemic

Number None, Monday, 15 August 2011 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

Silva's been chill this half, hit the bar, brought good save from goalie etc.
Still get the impression if they played with any sense of urgency or desperation City would win this by 3 or 4.
Dzeko's been good.

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

lol
xp

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 19:45 (thirteen years ago)

city are keeping the ball pretty easily within shooting distance, they'll crack this pretty easily i think.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 15 August 2011 19:45 (thirteen years ago)

Hope Le Bateau Ivre isn't watching this, that's supposed to be his club's keeper having such a great match.

boxall, Monday, 15 August 2011 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

Barry rattles one off the bar!

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

even barry looks good xp

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 15 August 2011 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

I was expecting it to be 3-0 from reading this thread.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 15 August 2011 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

would have been quite happy to see de jogn sent off for that use of the arm tbh

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

more 'actual' contact than gervinho on barton really.

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

good break from silva. Dzeko 1-0

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

how do you pronounce dzeko btw?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

Here comes Kun.

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

coming on for de jong. bit attacking for mancini there

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

JEK-O??

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

Wow, they let him put Kun on his shirt! This really is a new Britain.

boxall, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

south american allowed a nickname on shirt: news at ten

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

this aguero lad looks alright for the 1 minute he's been on eh.

Merdeyeux, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

hernandez had chicharito on his shirt last season

mizzell, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

A team with Aguero and Silva in it is gonna be fun to watch no matter what tactics Mancini plays with surely?

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

Have City really had 22 shots!?

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

Kun 2-0. Nice move.

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

aguero ff points already ooooooooooooooh yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

Great cross from Richards but it was Johnson's pass that made that goal, c'mon he has to be first-choice.

boxall, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

spoiler

sonderangerbot, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

Carlos Who?

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck that was cool. 3-0

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

3-0? who scored?

kun sounds like he is going to be the best pl player of the decade after 5 minutes.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

don't know who the 'expert' on this espn stream i'm watching is but his assessment of kun earlier was basically "we'll see a lot more of him and he'll score many a goals" and i'm almost prepared to agree

sonderangerbot, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

aguero the bomb already

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck, he's gonna be good isn't he?

Number None, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

Silva with goal kun with the assist. does that get you ff points a hoy?

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

assist does; don't have silva for some absurd reasons.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

that goal was nuts

remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

are we accumulating ilx ff draft points already

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

cos if so fuck a doyle peno and carroll disallowed goal obv

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

Anyone seen anything of savic(who's just come on for City)?

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

That shot of a forlorn Balotelli is making me sad now, such a range of emotions in this match.

boxall, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

BACKPASS FUNTIMES

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

lol i was thinking of my other ff team but hope first week counts on the draft now!

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

dat save!

zappi, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

yeah thw swansea gk has been great, even the first goal was a stretch to call a mistake

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

leroy lita on for you a hoy

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

ll cool, j

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

!

boxall, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

holy shit

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

FUCK!!! Aguero bangs in a 25 yarder

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

WHY THE HELL AM I ONLY LISTENING TO THIS

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

2 goals and 1 assist in 30 mins.

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

Almost as good as Marvin Martin.

boxall, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

almost as good as serge makofo ffs

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

o_OOO <3

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

city are gonna walk this aren't they?

second only to popcorn (or something), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

Wolves still firmly in 4th place btw, lest we forget

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

Mike Dean gives Kun the match ball. Does he think he got a hat trick?

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

city are gonna walk this aren't they?

― second only to popcorn (or something), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:52 (52 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah think its already over

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

Man City goal: Class. Pure class. And a Premier League debut that could not have gone better. Sergio Aguero picks the ball up 25 yards out, takes a touch, and then hammers a dipping strike into the corner brilliantly. An absolute jaffer.

Sam Lyon: Making Fetch Happen

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 15 August 2011 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

ew

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

4-0 loss but still think Michel Vorm had a very decent debut.

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

odds on aguero not startin next game still strong imo

xp yeah vorm was good, though tbh i'd worry about his position for the last goal ahead of anything else

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 15 August 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

Wet Tuesday at Stoke dudes, wet Tuesday at Stoke. But yeah, dude looks amazing.

Matt DC, Monday, 15 August 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

wtf with all this "star is born" shite re. aguero.

Chris, Monday, 15 August 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

everybody knows you're nobody until you've gubbed Swansea in the Premier League

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

but can he do it on a wet wednesday in stoke?

Chris, Monday, 15 August 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

next thing his inlaws will be using his newfound fame to try and make a name for themselves

nakhchivan, Monday, 15 August 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

lol

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

Most of the comments on the guardian site seem to be amazed at how good Aguero looked tonight. They're like the Talksport cretin who hadn't heard of David Silva.

pandemic, Monday, 15 August 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

i just tried to get a tenner on him for top scorer at 8-1 but by the time the site stopped playing with me he was 4s. tempted to just stick the 20 on him and forget about cutting my nose off to spite my face.

second only to popcorn (or something), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

"star is born" => doing it in the EPL and not the diddy liga innit

do I hear 51, 51, 51... I'll give you 51, 51, 51 (cozen), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

can he do it with a ref not giving an offside 2nd and out-of-play 3rd more like

r|t|c, Monday, 15 August 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

He's pretty well-equipped for the wet-Stoke test as far as I can tell; plays for the right team and all.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 15 August 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

Do you reckon Bolton fans get annoyed that their ground is no longer the intimidating place for soft foreign jessies to go on a wet Wednesday evening in November?

Matt DC, Monday, 15 August 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

Their ground is kind of wussy though, all those curves. Teams should ditch these modern grounds and move into abandoned industrial wastelands instead. That Braga quarry thing is good - there are derelict mines all over the north for sides looking to build a rep.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 15 August 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

Scunthorpe shd move into a hole in the ground oh wait they're already in Scunthorpe

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

An oil rig in the North Sea, at night, in a force 9 - I'd like to see Agüero try any fancy stuff there

Ismael Klata, Monday, 15 August 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

eh? That was a nike ad already tbf!

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 15 August 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

'a star is born' refers to his newness to the epl this isn't anything sinister guys cmon.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 15 August 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

i'm turning into ronan-lite amn't i

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 15 August 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

Seriously though, i don't why anyone would be surprised/annoyed at those type of reactions. It was ever thus

Number None, Monday, 15 August 2011 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.footgoal.net/photos/gervinho.jpg

nakhchivan, Monday, 15 August 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

xp Aye, just any excuse to moan about Sky. Haven't done it in a while.

Chris, Monday, 15 August 2011 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

aguero is unreal. his touch and ability to hold the ball is up there with messi, for me. yeah i know its swansea but thats a fantastic 20 mins from a guy who is still probably not even fully match fit.

Michael B, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 10:10 (thirteen years ago)

Think we should take a deep breath before claiming the title for City though. For all we know everyone might be able to put four goals past Swansea.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 10:10 (thirteen years ago)

yeah but no-one else has gareth barry

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 10:13 (thirteen years ago)

Eboue ;_;

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

Dead? Kidnapped?

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:39 (thirteen years ago)

turkish

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

This is a bit of a long-shot, but I have this vague memory of being in a pub in Islington on a Friday night back in about 2003 or 2004 and being surprised to see there was a live Premier league game on the TV. I think it might have been Arsenal v Newcastle, but I wouldn't swear to it. Google isn't being particularly helpful on this front. Can anyone confirm if they have shown Premier League games on a Friday night? And if so, what game did I see and when was it?

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, there was definitely one around that time and my memory says Arsenal-Newcastle too, because I looked up tickets and it didn't sell out. But I didn't go, I wasn't a diehard gunner then.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

I thought you'd always been a true blue gunner-gooner?

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

26/09/2003 apparently. Do not remember this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UmNtb_3TB4

Number None, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

I should've gone, that looks great.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

Oof, that Lundberg chip <3

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

Schalke have said they expect a quick decision on whether Raúl, the former Real Madrid striker, will join Blackburn Rovers

lol yeah a very quick decision indeed

r|t|c, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

haha

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

Were Arsenal trying to sell Vela and couldn't find any takers, or was the plan to loan him out for a year all along?

pandemic, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

Think the writing was on the wall for Chippy when he couldn't get into the West Brom team.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

3 matches for Gervinho, ridiculous.

boxall, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 23:48 (thirteen years ago)

standard

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 23:54 (thirteen years ago)

@Nanas08 Just to make things clear i dont have a facebook so i never said i was leaving with bitterness the guy who said that use a fake account, wah wah wah

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 06:42 (thirteen years ago)

"He rang me after I stuck up for him (in September 2009 when Adebayor scored against Arsenal at Eastlands). I said he shouldn't have run to the fans, but they were giving him almighty abuse all game. What are you supposed to do? You stick it up them, which is what he did. It was a bit over the top but I stuck up for him and he rang me to say he appreciated it. I'm sure I'll get on well with him. When he was at it at Arsenal, he was almost unplayable. That's what we want him to do here and there's no reason why he can't do that."
No reason why you wouldn't 'ave a go fer someone hoo'd stick it up 'em.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 18 August 2011 09:03 (thirteen years ago)

Cech out 4 weeks with a knee injury. Adjust yr fantasy teams accordingly. Can never remember if Hilario is any good or not.

pandemic, Thursday, 18 August 2011 12:04 (thirteen years ago)

clue's in the name

do I hear 51, 51, 51... I'll give you 51, 51, 51 (cozen), Thursday, 18 August 2011 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

aptronym innit

do I hear 51, 51, 51... I'll give you 51, 51, 51 (cozen), Thursday, 18 August 2011 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

ave we signed adebayor or are we just avin a go

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

No way is Hilario now second-choice keeper at Chelsea? That's ridiculous.

Matt DC, Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

no, it's Hilarious!

jel --, Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

Who else do they have?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder how much he's been paid for playing ~20 games in 5 years.

^^^ this (onimo), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

Who else do they have?

Ross Turnbull

^^^ this (onimo), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

They also signed this guy then loaned him immediately to Atletico Madrid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thibaut_Courtois

^^^ this (onimo), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

they have Turnbull too, though as I assume he signed in order to quietly see out the last ten years of his career on the bench I don't know if actually playing him would be a good idea. (xp)

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

Turnbull is there purely because of homegrown rules, right? I don't think even he can remember if he is any good or not.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

"I find it frustrating with Joey Barton how he's not in the England squad," Cattermole told BBC Newcastle.

"There's no doubting his ability, but they [the England management team] see him as some problem."

"I don't understand it, I think he would do well for the England side."

r|t|c, Thursday, 18 August 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

@themichaelowen
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neuchâtel xanax (cozen), Friday, 19 August 2011 08:10 (thirteen years ago)

something to do on matchdays

neuchâtel xanax (cozen), Friday, 19 August 2011 08:11 (thirteen years ago)

there's something about piecing together all those broken bits while knowing that the final result will still be fragile and shirt-lived that's somehow significant here

^^^ this (onimo), Friday, 19 August 2011 08:59 (thirteen years ago)

Hilario is never quite as bad as you think he'll be. Keeps a fair share of clean sheets, much better than Turnball. (Prepares to eat words after weekend fixtures.)

Courtois is a long-term replacement for Cech, though we also have another young Czech keeper parked somewhere or other in Mittel Europe I think.

Not feeling this season yet. Only player I'm interested in seeing is Aguero and he'll only get allowed out the box once a month by Mancini. Vaguely contemplating supporting Swansea.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Friday, 19 August 2011 09:49 (thirteen years ago)

Hilario is never quite as bad as you think he'll be. Keeps a fair share of clean sheet

last season, played once vs Man U - lost 3 goals

previous season played 11, 6 clean sheets, conceded 3 vs Wigan, 3 vs Blackburn, 4 vs Man City

^^^ this (onimo), Friday, 19 August 2011 10:14 (thirteen years ago)

Hmmm, bit misleading that.

Wigan he came off the bench when Cech was sent off to face a penalty that made it 2-1; Blackburn was CC and experimental team. He was poor against Man City, but the whole team had a brainfart.

Don't even remember the United game last season. Charity Shield was it? Say no more.

He's not a great keeper by any stretch, but he's not a walking catastrophe.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Friday, 19 August 2011 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

that he's barely played a game in five years must be a concern though?

^^^ this (onimo), Friday, 19 August 2011 10:35 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, well obviously I'd rather Cech was playing - best keeper in the league and all that - but Hilario is better than Turnball. Prefer it if we had a better No 2, but it's a hard role to fill. Don't think anybody has two very good keepers these days (*waits to be corrected.*)

If Cech got a really long-term injury we'd be buggered. But could be fun with Hilario and De Gea at either end at Old Trafford next month.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Friday, 19 August 2011 10:42 (thirteen years ago)

I'm pretty happy with whoever our second-choice keeper is, it's the first-choice that sends me into a blind panic.

Matt DC, Friday, 19 August 2011 10:44 (thirteen years ago)

Substitute keeper is such a weird profession though, I wish I understood the sporting psychology of it.

Matt DC, Friday, 19 August 2011 10:45 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, the one position that is never really subject to rotation. No club really wants the expense and agitation of 2 v good goalies (see Man City last yr). Although he's had a rough start Utd have probably got 2 good goalies tho one of them won't really be able to develop if the other does well.

pandemic, Friday, 19 August 2011 10:51 (thirteen years ago)

Substitute keeper is such a weird profession though, I wish I understood the sporting psychology of it.

I often think about that.

We've had Dominic Cervi as our #3 goallie for years. If someone leaves he briefly gets a go on the bench until someone else comes in above him again. He spent six months on loan at Dundee as their second choice keeper and didn't play a single game.

He seems to give not one shit about this.

^^^ this (onimo), Friday, 19 August 2011 10:52 (thirteen years ago)

Getting paid to practice essentially, without the pressure of actual games. I'd take it. Then again I'm not one of the 1% who make it as a pro footballer.

pandemic, Friday, 19 August 2011 10:56 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, you get sub goalies who have ambition who are gagging to play and go out on loan a lot and eventually leave, and then you get the career sub goalies who are those weird Stuart Taylor types, with this combination of being just good enough at being a keeper to be worth having around for an emergency, but not good or ambitious enough to actually play under any other circumstances

MPx4A, Friday, 19 August 2011 10:57 (thirteen years ago)

yeah,it's interesting. Every top player, more or less, is motivated by the same three things in the same order:

1 Winning
2 Work/life balance - being happy with teammates/boss/club location
3 Wages

But most like to play a physical part in 1, even if it's just for 20 minutes every other week. Back-up keepers don't even get that, so presumably are more motivated by 2 and 3, unless being part of a winning squad is hugely psychologically rewarding in a way we can't really comprehend.

(Presumably if you are back-up in a non-winning team you are content because you feel that at least that gives you a better chance of one day become No 1.)

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Friday, 19 August 2011 10:58 (thirteen years ago)

Also the Carlo Cudicini types who are easily good enough to be someone's #1 and are content to sit on the bench for a bigger club.

Matt DC, Friday, 19 August 2011 10:59 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe they're just more philosophical and recognise that it's a specialist position with a much more limited chance of success. Goalkeepers on the whole seem to be mostly chill dudes.

^^^ this (onimo), Friday, 19 August 2011 11:00 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, you'd think they'd be the most angry people in football, right?

MPx4A, Friday, 19 August 2011 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

Jens Lehmann gives it a good go

MPx4A, Friday, 19 August 2011 11:03 (thirteen years ago)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2450/3944820623_b2ca595e7a.jpg

James Mitchell, Friday, 19 August 2011 11:03 (thirteen years ago)

Even when you're playing a lot of being a keeper is waiting around for something to happen, so maybe being a sub goalie is kinda like a weird extension of that mode of existence. I dunno, maybe Camus had something to say about this?

Number None, Friday, 19 August 2011 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

I think Cudicini was really really happy being at Chelsea under Mourinho having been plucked from nowhere by Ranieri. He loved the club, loved his team-mates and didn't want to let anybody down by not being there if needed. And he got a lot of love from the rest of the squad as a result, he was very highly respected.

Also, keepers tend to get on with each other, don't they? Cudicini has said he enjoyed working with Cech, helping him get better and used to the Premier League. Sometimes we forget that footballers spend most of their time with each other on the training ground and travelling, not playing competitive games.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Friday, 19 August 2011 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

Keeper you've just made a decent save / so you why do you feel the need to rant and rave
Shouting at defenders makes you look pretty foolish / 'specially when they haven't done much wrong
Please cease the trait

MPx4A, Friday, 19 August 2011 11:14 (thirteen years ago)

Ha! I love it when keepers shout at defenders for having the temerity to allow the opposition to have a shot from 30+ yards away!

pandemic, Friday, 19 August 2011 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

so why did cuducini leave chelsea?

mizzell, Friday, 19 August 2011 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

Free transfer, so chance for him to get a pay-off at the end of his career. The club let his contract run down because they wanted the money to go to him rather than make a couple of million themselves or whatever it would have been.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Friday, 19 August 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

aw <3 <3 <3

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Friday, 19 August 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

also:
I SCORED A GOAL FFS

come on! if you can't even shout at defenders what can you do? you can't even foul people in the box deliberately in order to have a penalty to save as you might get sent off straight away!

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Friday, 19 August 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdpzyaMUp4c

James Mitchell, Friday, 19 August 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

that sort of infatile misogynist shit has no place in not making me hurt myself laughing

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 August 2011 23:57 (thirteen years ago)

*WHY* leave Suarez, your best player, on the bench when he's not injured? I'm not bothered by it obv, but smh at Dalglish. Must be an error in the module.

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

It's only Arsenal.

Chris, Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

Saving him for Exeter in midweek.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

He look knackered against Sunderland after the Copa America. He'll come on for the last half hour I'da thought.

Stevie T, Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

oh he's obv not fully fit...

x-post exactly

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

Stream anyone? myp2p seems to be down. Panicking a tad

Number None, Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

I was so looking forward to this, but I've managed to arrange things so I need to go out precisely *now*

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

Stream anyone? myp2p seems to be down. Panicking a tad

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gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.firstlivesport.com/watch/1/arsenal-vs-liverpool.html

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks dude

Number None, Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

has kuyt taken a bung or something, fuck sake

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

could get used to french commentary for prem games

la frappe du 'endersonne

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

has arshavin taken a bung or something, he seems to be actually trying.

wops koscielny's dead.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

3 games into the season, 3rd defender down. ffs.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

this nice young man coming on will have no trouble with carroll at all

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

they may become friends after the game

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

see

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

great save tbf

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

good stuff from nrq down the left

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

adam not covering self in glory

x-post yeah left flank looks livelier than in years. the right...not so much.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

I know this is not an original observation but jesus Charlie Adam looks old

Number None, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

and fat

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

anyone think frimpong won't be sent off?

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

should have been for that lob back into his area just now

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

ridiculous booking, fucking jobsworth

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool's defence isn't great by any stretch.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:17 (thirteen years ago)

That's two commentators I've heard pronounce Miquel's name as MiGel. Now I only did Spanish to GCSE level, but surely that's wrong.

Chris, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

Adam leaving Lucas exposed too often. Apart from that we're doing pretty well. Henderson looking classy and composed in the middle.

Chris, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno, i thought henderson was poor, gave the ball away a few times and looks weak in position.

we can win this but i'd say we won't keep a clean sheet.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

in possession i meant, not position.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

downing looks great tho, it's positively unusual to see someone drop the shoulder and run with the ball in the liverpool midfield.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I'd say a goal from the left is a more than likely proposition.

Arsenal's best chance of scoring is going to be from wherever on the pitch Arshavin is not.

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

I'm back. How's Carroll been?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

Sharp imo

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

kuyt doesn't fit into this team, can't distribute quickly enough. can we buy a right winger as well?

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

French TV saying Nasri's move is off.

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

This is pretty rubbish. Spurs have a great chance of fourth on this showing.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

would disagree with that, i think liverpool have been largely good.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

except look vulnerable anytime arsenal get it together enough to attack.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

I've only seen ten minutes, right enough, and the flat atmosphere isn't helping. Liverpool look better than Arsenal, but I'm not seeing it knit together up front.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

yeah no one team is in control at all, which is disappointing for both i guess. i feel we'll concede a sloppy goal here tho.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool are way more composed than Arsenal.

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

So hesitant ffs. Every time Arsenal approach the box with the ball they stutter just enough to let Liverpool take it off them fairly easily.

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

^^ otm

Feo is useless today

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool starting to drop deeper too, never good.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

Walcott starting to get at them is my feeling

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

lol wenger

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

Nasri looked angry there, maybe the deal *is* off?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

looking sluggish too. i'm calling 1-0 arsenal.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

oof

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

ffs

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

was always likely. good player tho i thought.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

anyone think frimpong won't be sent off?

― LocalGarda, Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:11 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

credit where credit's due. He was way late, that was no 50/50

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

Walcott on the right is such a waste of a position. A player that can't cross expected to do so for players that can't head.

We've got a good keeper though.

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

Bollocks to the sending off. Ronan otm.

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

beauty

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

christ

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

wonderfully worked goal

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

hey I turned this on at a good time

'what's puzzling you' is the name of my dog (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

lol

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

I was going to add that the defence is keeping it together. That would have been embarrassing.

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

meireles has a pose on the ball that demands he should start.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

sorry that came out like a racing post blurb

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

aquilani cannot be ignored at 10-1

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

motm award bang on, enrique has been fantastic today.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

oh my

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

that actually was great, but jeez Arsenal

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

wenger in the now traditional "i have the shits" pose

i know arsenal are knackered but meireles has made a big difference.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

If he doesn't make two big signings now

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

still don't think pool will finish fourth but arsenal do look vulnerable and, a bit like lfc last year, the horrid fixtures they've had to start with could leave them under gigantic pressure.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, the parallels are horrible

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

Get in.

Chris, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

Module delivered.

^^^ this (onimo), Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

I feel like the three points were really important today. They were squandered a bit v Sunderland, and it would've been bad to let that get any momentum.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

how can it be delivered already

unless there are modules within modules

submodules?

nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

57% possession for Liverpool!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

scalar division innit

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

tbf tbqfh tbrr that was a pretty terrible game

nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool are top of the league! For an hour or two at least.

^^^ this (onimo), Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

are liverpool split into north european / latin cliques? when rau mrezh, lucas & luisito celebrated the 2nd they didn't acknowledge downing and henderson's halfhearted attempts to join in

nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

not that I place too much store by possession alone, but if Arsenal can't even do that any more

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

hey so appara thanks to a virus suddenly cropped up in the qpr camp bothroyd and campbell are out today so pat agyemang starts a premier league game. chances just went from certain raking to certain brutal raking ^_^

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

Suppose M is a left R-module and N is a subgroup of M. Then N is a submodule (or R-submodule, to be more explicit) if, for any n in N and any r in R, the product r n is in N (or nr for a right module).

The set of submodules of a given module M, together with the two binary operations + and ∩, forms a lattice which satisfies the modular law: Given submodules U, N1, N2 of M such that N1 ⊂ N2, then the following two submodules are equal: (N1 + U) ∩ N2 = N1 + (U ∩ N2).

nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

raul absolutely has to start in the gerrard role. he passes and moves more than anyone in that midfield.

x-post can i just say something controversial...gary neville is...sort of okay as a pundit.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

welcome to the big leagues, big pat

nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

Neville seems to be winning people over. Course i will always love him

Number None, Saturday, 20 August 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

the much hyped ross barkley gets his first everton start today too

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

As a pundit Neville's fine. Way better than anyone of the MOTD lot and Redknapp (faint praise). I did laugh at his attempt to interview Mancini post match on Monday tho.
Ronan OTM re Meireles. Enrique and Downing were great. Frimpong was v good. Arshavin a total waste.

pandemic, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

one minute gone, cahill's kneed faurlin in the balls already

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

it was so apparent by the end of last season how Meireles needs to be played that only a complete clown wd choose to do otherwise

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

three minutes gone, series of bewildering long balls from keeper to keeper

there's no target men on the pitch lads ffs

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

how can redknapp go on about gerrard's return as if it's exciting? i'm the one on here constantly defending stevie g and obviously a liverpool fan but he has no fucking right to a place in this team unless he can start playing well for the first time in about two years.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

wish they'd stop calling meireles "morales"

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b6Lu8eEVgE

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

tune

Number None, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

Blackburn relegation odds shortening some more

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

Redknapp (faint praise). I did laugh at his attempt to interview Mancini post match on Monday tho.

Wish I'd seen that.

Re. pronunciations - why the fuck is everyone pronouncing Jose Enrique with a Jose Mourinho 'J'?! He's Spanish not Portuguese!

Chris, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

can't see much of a 1st choice place for Gerrard in that team unless he can be arsed to offer a threat from wide. if he's fit and he cares (Euro 2012 might be key motivating factor here) he could have a role as an impact sub

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

The thought of him and Downing bombing on behind Suarez is exciting, but I still can't see how Carroll fits in that picture.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

wd be cool with that tbh

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

If they hadn't paid so much bloody money for him Carroll could just be a bench option to change things up, but 35m means he has to start

Number None, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

tbf tbqfh tbrr that was a pretty terrible game

I thought it was pretty fascinating. Weird atmosphere, Arsenal looked completely deflated, comedy OG summed Arsenal up really. Stating the obv here but this is a massive week for them. Tempted to watch Udinese instead of Exeter on Wed.

Chris, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

radio commentators getting excited about the boy Barkley

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

35m means he has to start

this feels logically true but god what a horrible prospect

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

emilol heskey

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

barkley's been pretty anonymous, kept hold of possession just now to win a free kick (pinged off the crossbar by baines) but it was pretty rudimentary stuff

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

radio commentary is always so hype tho

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

GET IN HESKEY!!!!!!!!!!

historyyy (prettylikealaindelon), Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

nah carroll doesn't have to start imo. fuck it the money's gone, he's there, and he will have his moments too. they do need another inside fwd type imo tho...and a centre back still.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

WAHHHHHHHHHEHEHEYEYEYEYEY

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

that was some proper shit defending from jagielka

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

How have Everton been?

Chris, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

Martin Atkinson is a massive cunt.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

xp disappointing, very little enterprise about them besides flashes of barkley's sullenly retarded yoof

had us well under the cosh for the first ten minutes and then once we put together a couple of tentative sideways passes they started taking us hilariously seriously and clammmed up a bit

obviously a good set of players, just lacking a spark of creative leadership - need arteta badly

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

saying all that though we're still catching massive breaks that we didnt against bolton

oop cahill's missed a gaping sitter as i type

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

when did own goal go out on loan

glasgow based god (cozen), Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

oh ronan already made that joke on facebook

~embarassing~

glasgow based god (cozen), Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

Can we please retire "own goal" jokes?

Number None, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

ha

Number None, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

That Agbonlahor goal looked an absolute belter on my tiny mobile screen.

Re: Carroll - it's all very well talking about benching him but who else do you put there? Suarez would be wasted as a conventional lone centre forward. Kuyt?

Matt DC, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

Hope Swansea put 2 or 3 past Wigan in the second half. I'm surprised how awful Wigan are.

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 20 August 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

really feeling howard's camo jersey. other than that everton has been quite terrible.

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 20 August 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

MISSED PENALTY (Ben Watson saved by Michel Vorm)

OTM :)

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 20 August 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

https://img.skitch.com/20110820-5wi8exaetpfghp65e1yfchm4c.jpg
Can we please retire "own goal" jokes?
― Number None, Saturday, August 20, 2011 2:55 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

glasgow based god (cozen), Saturday, 20 August 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

YESSS.

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

:)

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 August 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

:) happy for you r/t/c

pandemic, Saturday, 20 August 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

it's an uncanny likeness cozen

Number None, Saturday, 20 August 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

Alex: Hilario

^^^ this (onimo), Saturday, 20 August 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

http://reading.theoffside.com/files/2011/01/nipples_640.jpg

Number None, Saturday, 20 August 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

Wow, West Brom have a really shitty start to the season don't they? And they're making a decent fist of it. Starting to think Dmac might be right about Shane Long.

Matt DC, Saturday, 20 August 2011 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

Frimpong was so good and so stupid. Made that great interception, then when the ball ran to Adam and their relative chances in the tackle were about 10/90 you just knew he'd run right through him.

I thought Vermaelen should've read the pass for 2-0 about a half-second earlier and gotten there in time to cut it out. Couldn't even take away one unalloyed positive.

boxall, Saturday, 20 August 2011 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

Nasri staying isn't even necessarily a good thing, unless he's the difference between midtable and a shot at fourth (not ruling that out, but top three is p much inconceivable). Wenger out/figure of fun talk is actually kind of heartbreaking, I just hope he's got a couple up his sleeve this week.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

I say inconceivable, but I'm not watching the Chelsea game.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

Staggeringly bad at the Bridge.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Saturday, 20 August 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

Luka why do you want to join this passionless shower?

Matt DC, Saturday, 20 August 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

Terrible goal for WBA to give away. What point in doing so well only to give it up so lamely.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

Boswinga actually looking half decent this season.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

not so good that you could be bothered learning his name tho

nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

10/10 for snark.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

José Bosingwa
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nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

I assumed Pete was subtly advocating he be used in an advanced outside right role, ahead of Ivanovic.

boxall, Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

maybe it's an affectionate misspelling now? cuz he is more of a winger after all

that would be in keeping with the famous chelsea sense of humour

nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:34 (thirteen years ago)

abramovich needs to buy a midfield, maybe he should ask loligarch of the moment kerimov how you get superstars to sign for your vanity project

nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

Whatever his name is, he done all right. Abject otherwise, but throw in Luiz, Mata and Modric, and give McEachran and Lukakakaka the odd game and we may finished 3rd.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago)

i think lampard might need to go quietly into the night

nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

If it's pronounced Boswinga, I don't see why it shouldn't be spelt that way

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

lol i suppose it probably shouldn't be pronounced that way then

nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

'if it's pronounced bennynoon'

nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

audio: http://www.forvo.com/word/jos%C3%A9_bosingwa/#pt

boxall, Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

Lampard always starts the season slowly, but I do worry he's in terminal decline. But he's surprised me many times before and is smart enough to adapt. Played okay second half when we changed shape and pushed him further forward.

Don't think Torres will get double figures this year.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago)

I know. Even last season I think he was only one short of double figures for Liverpool. It's a catastrophic decline.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

His movement is good, his pace is fine, his touch is very good and his head isn't going down as easily as it was last season, but it's all happening outside the area.

Drogba's looking half the player he used to be, but at least he still seems dangerous.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Saturday, 20 August 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

Early days I know, but what about AVB so far? He doesn't seem to have much of a presence, which is great if the team is ticking but looks bad (in this country at least) when it's not.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

Don't you think that once they bring in Mata or Modric, or even give Benayoun more than 15' at a time, Torres will make forward/diagonal runs for through passes instead of dropping deep, and the goals will come?

RVP looks similarly neutered with a less creative midfield so far this season.

boxall, Saturday, 20 August 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

should sign angle wrangle in case boswingers gets crocked

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

x-post

Not really sure, not been paying that much attention to be honest and don't think I've seen him interviewed, but he made positive changes today which is a big improvement on Carlo. Decent, early subs and changed formation to get the win.

People who have been at press conferences tell me he comes over very well. But he's not had to manage a club through a bad patch yet and that will be the test. I think we've taken him on at least one season too early, and am already wondering who'll be in charge in 2013.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Saturday, 20 August 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

can't remember where i heard/read this (probably here) but hasn't there been some rumours avb's been frustrated how slowly the lads are picking up his instructions

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

x-post

The lack of service argument is the big one for Torres, I really don't know. He got plenty of that in the World Cup for Spain and looked shite.

I would like to see Benayoun play more, but the big problem is Lampard. Such a great player, any manager has to respect his history when thinking about how to change the attacking focus of the team, and that isn't going to be easy at all.

Mata, if he signs and nsettles, will surely create more space, but it's more about how slowly they collectively move the ball - not sure how quick/easy that is to change.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Saturday, 20 August 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

'can't remember where i heard/read this (probably here) but hasn't there been some rumours avb's been frustrated how slowly the lads are picking up his instructions'

yeah, I think this is again to do with moving the ball more quickly. They're struggling with it.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Saturday, 20 August 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

Don't you think that once they bring in Mata or Modric, or even give Benayoun more than 15' at a time, Torres will make forward/diagonal runs for through passes instead of dropping deep, and the goals will come?

RVP looks similarly neutered with a less creative midfield so far this season.

― boxall, Saturday, 20 August 2011 20:25 (4 minutes ago)

this is probably correct

villas boas is in a very awkward situation right now though, since he is obliged to play torres even though drogba is probably better adapted to playing in front of a crappy midfield and making his own chances

they are completely stacked with #9s, anelka is the only one who has been successful on the wing yet he seems to be in decline too and the right wing looks exposed

i'm not sure what his starting defence will be if alex is sold but there are enough good players there to be reasonably secure

the midfield is really lumpen right now though, ramires looks like an overextended utility player, a lesser owen hargeaves, lampard is at an age when terminal decline is to be expected and mikel still seems to be playing within himself

god knows if essien will ever get back to his 07-09 form even if he does come back this season, benayoun is alright but not exactly at the level of nasri, nanri, silva, and mceachran still looks a bit raw

so yeah villas boas is probably being asked to do too much and they'd probably need a canny old fuck like hiddimk to wring a title challenge out of them

nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 August 2011 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

that's all assuming they do get modric and mata.....modric is such a natural midfield gelling agent and should combine well with whoever, mata is great but i'm not sure how they will use him

nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 August 2011 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

http://i51.tinypic.com/zxjjnd.gif

Number None, Saturday, 20 August 2011 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

need to get rid of the hideous charlie adam from the first post itt

nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 August 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

Arsene does take a great OH FFS picture.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/54719000/jpg/_54719266_54719262.jpg

^^^ this (onimo), Saturday, 20 August 2011 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

facepalm d'or

nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 August 2011 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2011/8/20/1313855273570/Tommy-Smith-celebrates-wi-007.jpg

graun makes scrapping past everton look so tender ;_;

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

AGYEMANG IS THE KEY

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 20 August 2011 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

the little notch out of the top of the sunderland shirt makes it look like they're ready to

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/625/233315-hulk_hogan___ripping_shirt_as_champ___copy_large.jpg

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

That Coloccini tackle, nasty.

boxall, Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:16 (thirteen years ago)

"Coming into English football from overseas is never going to be easy for a goalkeeper, particularly if he doesn't get any protection from the referee," the United manager said. "I remember Schmeichel screaming like a pig for more protection when we played Wimbledon when he first came here."

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

cracking goal for Agbonlahor, tho Fatty could perhaps have gotten a hand to it.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

i will stop finding goodwillie funny
i will stop finding goodwillie funny
i will stop finding goodwillie funny
i will stop finding goodwillie funny

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

pretty dark lols considering the rape thing.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

rapist van goodwillie

nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

i hadnt been considering the rape thing, believe it or not

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

david van injury.

wairraminute.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

who's this new ranhel bloke playing for swansea, he looks alright

r|t|c, Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

also his name is angel rangel.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

@themichaelowen
Just watched the Sunderland v Newcastle match on Sky. Some great performances but none better than referee, Howard Webb. Top display.

Chris, Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

lol

nakhchivan, Sunday, 21 August 2011 00:51 (thirteen years ago)

wait how was howard webb playing in the newcastle derby

glasgow based god (cozen), Sunday, 21 August 2011 01:45 (thirteen years ago)

so, own goal out to liv, webb out to newcastle?

glasgow based god (cozen), Sunday, 21 August 2011 01:46 (thirteen years ago)

RE: Chelsea - harsh on Ramires, he's much better than Hargreaves and is exactly what we need in midfield, lots of energy and pace in midfield, good technique, shuttling up and down.

Essien has always been over-rated - too inconsistent for me.

Mikel I love but wish he'd step over halfway with the ball more - but I say that every summer.

But Sturridge and Mata could make a big difference to the front four. No idea how they will line up if Modric signs as well. Cautiously excited - at least there are more options this season. But can't see a finish higher than 3rd.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 21 August 2011 08:28 (thirteen years ago)

i found this liverpool/arsenal match report really irritating: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/20/arsenal-liverpool-premier-league

i'm not saying andy carroll had a wonder game or anything but the guy's thesis from early on is that he was shit and isn't working, so he says:

with fewer crosses landing on Carroll's forehead than Dalglish must have been hoping, it was perhaps significant that the nearest Liverpool came to taking the lead in the first half was a shot from exactly halfway by Charlie Adam, one that had Szczesny back-pedalling, but that flew a couple of feet too high.

he just ignores the andy carroll header which chesney had to make prob his best save of the game to.

also he calls it a "barely deserved" victory which i find to be bullshit too, they were the better team even if it was a scrappy game.

LocalGarda, Sunday, 21 August 2011 09:33 (thirteen years ago)

Certainly, the Arsenal fans initially had cause to be worried when Miquel mistimed his jump and failed to cut out the first Stewart Downing cross he had to deal with, leaving Carroll a free header that Wojciech Szczesny had to dive to save. It turned out not to be a portent of what was to come.

r|t|c, Sunday, 21 August 2011 09:47 (thirteen years ago)

that's the sentence immediately before your quote fyi

r|t|c, Sunday, 21 August 2011 09:48 (thirteen years ago)

yeah tho why does he say the adam shot was the nearest they came to taking the lead, when that header was obviously. or the henderson chance.

LocalGarda, Sunday, 21 August 2011 09:51 (thirteen years ago)

yeah ok his thesis is a little skewed towards damning carroll & route one rather than looking at how meireiles coming on + no frimpong loosened up the final third, but there's no argument you lot were pretty clunky before that

r|t|c, Sunday, 21 August 2011 09:53 (thirteen years ago)

i thought we passed it well actually, just didn't have a huge amount in the final third. largely i thought it was encouraging, they're trying to play in a way they haven't for a long time. just needs meireles starting obviously, as i said during the game i think kuyt is fairly problematic in a side trying to move the ball quickly. he doesn't give it away but he takes an age to do anything on the ball.

LocalGarda, Sunday, 21 August 2011 09:57 (thirteen years ago)

also we didn't really go route one to carroll thar often, to me the prob was we were passing it about and he's not offering any option on the ground.

LocalGarda, Sunday, 21 August 2011 09:58 (thirteen years ago)

I doubt Dalglish picked that starting XI with sparkling football in mind. Seems obvious to me why he'd go for a more conservative approach against even a weaker Arsenal side than usual.

Matt DC, Sunday, 21 August 2011 10:19 (thirteen years ago)

not sure henderson instead of meireles gives you added steel though.

LocalGarda, Sunday, 21 August 2011 10:21 (thirteen years ago)

Terrible season for Spurs so far, only just above the drop zone.

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 21 August 2011 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

Quite enjoying watching everyone else being shite from a mythical high ground so far. No doubt this will be brutally punctured on Monday.

Arsenal have won just two games in the Premiership since February, which doesn't seem to have been pointed out. That's not just a dodgy start to the season, that's a wider general torpor.

Matt DC, Sunday, 21 August 2011 10:37 (thirteen years ago)

really? fuck

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago)

need to maintain our Champ League challenge today tbh

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 10:39 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal have won just two games in the Premiership since February, which doesn't seem to have been pointed out. That's not just a dodgy start to the season, that's a wider general torpor.

'Manager out' form at any other club imo.

^^^ this (onimo), Sunday, 21 August 2011 10:49 (thirteen years ago)

there are extenuating circumstances

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 August 2011 10:51 (thirteen years ago)

aren't there always

^^^ this (onimo), Sunday, 21 August 2011 10:52 (thirteen years ago)

shurely you mean "zere are, ow you say, extenuating circumstanzes"?

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 10:53 (thirteen years ago)

'Manager out' form at any other club imo

It's basically there at Arsenal too, just everyone's being polite about it. The headlines just now are 'I Won't Walk Away', which differs only in making it his own decision. Also the general mockery/questioning of his entire approach.

I wish he'd just sign Benzema, Samba and Parker, and get that wolf away from the door. We need him.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 21 August 2011 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

I forgot about Charlie Adam's shots form the halfway line. The first one, ok fair play, but straight from kick off when Scezney was actually on his line? Cut out the billy big bollocks shit man.

Chris, Sunday, 21 August 2011 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

agreed.

LocalGarda, Sunday, 21 August 2011 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

Diarra and Adebayor to Spurs being reported as done deals

Number None, Sunday, 21 August 2011 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

Sweeeet. If those really do go through, I reckon we genuinely have a squad capable of challenging for the title. We probably don't have a manager capable of doing so, but that's for another day.

Matt DC, Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

Since we've already proven that he doesn't work in the Premiership, presumably 'arry is getting Lassana in to 'ave a go at the Europa?

James Mitchell, Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

not at gk nor cb tbh, but from there up we'd be top 4 nine times out of ten on current squad yeah

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

Adebayor on loan? Free transfer? Can't see how Spurs can afford his wages tbh

pandemic, Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah maybe, although Gallas and Dawson together should be good enough to get most of the way there. Keeper, obviously a problem - three flawed goalkeepers. Challenging for the title is different to actually winning it, and I don't think Redknapp is good enough to even get us that far, but top four feels... not unrealistic suddenly.

Matt DC, Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

Dunno?

Spurs are set to complete the signing of Lassana Diarra from Real Madrid while Emmanuel Adebayor should complete his loan move from Manchester City.
Wages have proved to be a stumbling block with Adebayor reportedly on £170,000 per week while Diarra takes home £85,000 after tax in Spain.
But Spurs could resolve the dispute by paying the players a fee up front or even paying the clubs an added fee that can be used to subsidise their salary.

Number None, Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

not paying all of them iirc,

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

It does appear that Man City are just giving him away - he must be such a squad-wrecking cunt.

Matt DC, Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

Luckily Diarra is renowned for his loyalty and team spirit

Number None, Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i have my concerns but tbh we need a bite of aggressive ambition too imo, dunno if these guys can bring that

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe Redknapp is working on the finer points of the monetary side of the transfers with his good friends Milan Mandaric and Peter Storrie? They might have spending some extended time together in the near future iirc.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

*might be*

James Mitchell, Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

No way is Levy stupid enough to give Redknapp free reign over the money surely?

Matt DC, Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.covershut.com/covers/Carried-Away-1996-Wide-Screen-Front-Cover-48980.jpg

LocalGarda, Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

I can see why City might be doing it, even if he isn't a bad influence on the squad. He'd cost them the thick end of £30m in wages over the next three years. They can't sell him as nobody is going to match those wages.

goldie hawn (ShariVari), Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

puts you in top 4 contention i agree. still something too feckless there for a title tilt though, and while all the midfield are good players there's a lack of leadership oomph imo. you'll be great when you're good, bad when you're bad, and nothing yet will change the inevitability of either.

r|t|c, Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

Don't think it makes much sense from City's pov to loan him to a rival. Especially one who can't pay his full wages. I mean economically it wd make sense to get any of his wages off the bill you can at every club in England except City. What's the money matter to them? Unless they don't consider Spurs rivals of course.

pandemic, Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

parker looking p shit for west ham today btw

r|t|c, Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

we are not rivals to city tbf

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

Are City out to specifically kill off Arsenal for some reason? Like an Etihad/Emirates feud or something?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

Doyle makes himself a sitter then misses it :(

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

City are arrogant enough to think that scrabbling round for fourth place is beneath them now, and they might be right.

Matt DC, Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

DOYLAAAAAAH

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

FLETCHAAAAAAH

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

WE ARE WOLVES MUTHERFUCKERS

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

tell a lie, 2nd goal was Jarv

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

2-0 a tad harsh on Fulham at half-time but we were starting to exert a bit of pressure, getting men into the box is nice too. long way to go yet - our defence ain't watertight by any means and Mick will have them all lined up on the goal line for the 2nd half

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

shit, Norwich a goal up at the moment too :)

hoping some grub street reject from the beeb's football pool points out we're top of the table at the mo and how grateful we shd be

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

here comes the fear

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

Sidwell coming on for Fulham. oh good, i hope he doesn't get hurt.

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

if Jarv had a left foot he'd be

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

right, h8 Stoke now

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 21 August 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

assume Norwich will have learnt something from that

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

Hail the hungry Wolves!

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 21 August 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

really bossing this game at the moment touch wood

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

OptaJoe on Twitter: "53.3% - For the first time ever in the PL (116 games) Stoke have recorded more than 50% possession in a single match. Patience."

That's rather amazing. As much as i dislike Stoke, i'm always pleased when Kenwyne scores.

goldie hawn (ShariVari), Sunday, 21 August 2011 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

weren't they playing agaonst 10 men?

pandemic, Sunday, 21 August 2011 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

*against*

pandemic, Sunday, 21 August 2011 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

for the last half hour, by the look of it

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

goal-saving tackle from Wardy there, fuckin hell

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

go on wolves

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 August 2011 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

title challenge is on

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

^^ just texted that to my bruv at the match, his reply was "decider next week at the Villa"

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

wolves fans will be delighted that their plucky journeymen continue to stink up the top of the table, every point will count come the relegation battle.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 21 August 2011 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

i was just gonna do a "plucky underdogs" update on Facebook. gosh, if only we cd manage to snatch the odd point against the likes of Man U, Chelsea or Liverpool. still, just a crazy dream i guess.

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

just off to my local to get fucking blootered now btw

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger Out, Big Mick In!!

pandemic, Sunday, 21 August 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

Aguero is rubbish

Number None, Sunday, 21 August 2011 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah not a patch on barry

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Sunday, 21 August 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

wilkins: "he put a little bit of swazz on the side of that"

does he mean swag?

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Sunday, 21 August 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

Nice dodge by Richards

Number None, Sunday, 21 August 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

did that go between hart's legs y/n

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 August 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

y

boxall, Sunday, 21 August 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't know Aguero was an Inbetweener.

Chris, Sunday, 21 August 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

wilkins: "he put a little bit of swazz on the side of that"

does he mean swag?

― For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:38 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark

If Wilkins had said 'swag' it would have made my year!

pandemic, Sunday, 21 August 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

probably thinking of something somewhere in between 'swag' and 'vajazzle'.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 21 August 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

best game i've seen Dseko have for City

Number None, Sunday, 21 August 2011 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

He was good against Swansea as well. If City actually go for it, at least at home, against the 'big' teams as well it'll be fun to watch.

pandemic, Sunday, 21 August 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

typical City, all the Latin flair in the world but will have to learn how to grind out a result even if it's harsh on the eyes.

boxall, Sunday, 21 August 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

lol at big john hartson's expert analysis of prem big men every game on motd2

r|t|c, Sunday, 21 August 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

loves his bigs does hartsy

nakhchivan, Sunday, 21 August 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

fully expect that fat cheating bastard grant holt to be a cult figure round here soon enough

r|t|c, Sunday, 21 August 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

What's this MOTD3 they're talking about?

Matt DC, Sunday, 21 August 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

MOTD3 = cunts on 606 messageboard iirc

oppet, Sunday, 21 August 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago)

Holt is amusingly wide, almost like seeing Jon Parkin miraculously appear in the Prem, except Holt doesn't have Beast's charm obv.

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal have won just two games in the Premiership since February, which doesn't seem to have been pointed out. That's not just a dodgy start to the season, that's a wider general torpor.

'Manager out' form at any other club imo.

― ^^^ this (onimo), Sunday, 21 August 2011 11:49 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ummm? Arsenal fans are going mental? Everyone presumes he'll be out by October? That we are looking at a season akin to Liverpool last season, not qualifying for the CL - at least, morale is about as low as it has ever been and the only way out is a fresh fucking change? I love Wenger, I think we all do, but it is time to push him and the borad out the door (not to be replaced by rapists who resemble jabba the hut).

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 04:11 (thirteen years ago)

It was, in its way, terrific fun supporting Liverpool last season. You're not going to be relegated, you're not going to go bust, just enjoy the ride.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 06:27 (thirteen years ago)

Modric isn't playing tonight as "his head isn't in the right place". That's pretty worrying.

goldie hawn (ShariVari), Monday, 22 August 2011 07:55 (thirteen years ago)

Worrying indeed. I thought he had an injury, although it might be a phantom one.

Wenger won't be sacked but I'm not sure I'd bet against him leaving right now. He's showing all signs of hating every minute of his job right now.

Matt DC, Monday, 22 August 2011 08:54 (thirteen years ago)

With Mata to Chelsea, surely they won't also buy Modric?

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 09:01 (thirteen years ago)

Why wouldn't they? Mata's a winger, Modric a central playmaker.

Matt DC, Monday, 22 August 2011 09:03 (thirteen years ago)

lol wenger out

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 09:06 (thirteen years ago)

That we are looking at a season akin to Liverpool last season, not qualifying for the CL - at least, morale is about as low as it has ever been and the only way out is a fresh fucking change? I love Wenger, I think we all do, but it is time to push him and the borad out the door

tbh i think this is not what you do to someone you love. Even I'm questioning the wisdom of his decisions myself but until you have a suitable, available replacement in mind, I suggest you show a bit of respect and shut the fuck up.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 22 August 2011 09:13 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.thefootballnetwork.net/main/s378/st170548.htm

Chris posted this on the other thread - not sure how this could have got out, but has the ring of truth imo.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 09:14 (thirteen years ago)

Replace Wenger with who? Especially if the report above is true. The new manager would face the same wage restrictions. Good luck finding someone who'd do a better job than Wenger given the situation.

pandemic, Monday, 22 August 2011 09:37 (thirteen years ago)

yeah

Tho if he really wanted to push rvp and nasri up to the 120k + club he's fuckin cracked

And if he really thinks a 30m winger on similar wages is the priority then he's fuckin cracked

So, no, tbh, in that slashfic piece the board is otm

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 09:40 (thirteen years ago)

And if he really thinks a 30m winger on similar wages is the priority then he's fuckin cracked

Wouldn't have been a priority last year, might be now given that Arsenal look short of creativity with Fabregas gone, Nasri nearly gone, Arshavin half-arsed, Rosicky knackered and Walcott shite.

Matt DC, Monday, 22 August 2011 09:51 (thirteen years ago)

Not a good day for the professor.

James Mitchell, Monday, 22 August 2011 09:56 (thirteen years ago)

Have bookies stopped taking bets on Oxlade-Chamberlain being sent off on his debut yet?

Matt DC, Monday, 22 August 2011 09:57 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Photo/competitions/General/01/66/08/05/1660805_w2.jpg

"AW"

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 22 August 2011 09:58 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.thefootballnetwork.net/main/s378/st170548.htm

Chris posted this on the other thread - not sure how this could have got out, but has the ring of truth imo.

Find this article hard to believe as the simplest explanation is just that the club have fucked up this summer.

James Mitchell, Monday, 22 August 2011 10:03 (thirteen years ago)

which clubs are paying their players £120k at the moment who'd want to buy van persie?

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 22 August 2011 10:11 (thirteen years ago)

Malaga?

Number None, Monday, 22 August 2011 10:13 (thirteen years ago)

those russian guys as well

Number None, Monday, 22 August 2011 10:14 (thirteen years ago)

Well, if you wanna swap him for Joe Cole I wouldn't say no.

pandemic, Monday, 22 August 2011 10:18 (thirteen years ago)

lol yeah who would want to spend 2/3 of what adebayor is on for last season's most potent premier league striker

in response to n1ck: you never heard of divorce? sometimes leaving the one you love is the only way to a healthy life.

sure chris's article could be true but it doesn't explain why emery came out and said we never actually lodged a bid and so on. no-one is going to take 80k if you never get around to offering it to them in the first place.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

sam, it wasn't so much what you said, as how you said it. "it is time to push him and the borad out the door" is not the same as admitting to yourself that it's not working out and, if that's how you feel, that changes need to be made. i'm also pretty sure the divorce analogy is not great because i don't think we'd be better off without any manager at all than in an, apparently, dysfunctional relationship with the one we've got. if you are going down that route though, i'd rather we gave marriage counselling a try before giving up on the whole thing.

that article does ring true to me, reinforcing my view that there's always more going on behind the scenes than we can possibly know and that things are never as simple as spendsomefuckingmoney.com would like us to think. wenger's a company man and is basically being crucified by the fans for not bitching out the board instead. no danger of 'arry (or pretty much any other manager you can name) being so discrete.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 22 August 2011 11:14 (thirteen years ago)

At some point you just have to admit that Man City and Chelsea are completely fucking you when it comes to wages and there's nothing you can do to compete. Man United have done fine largely because of Fergie and they're probably still able to comfortably outpay Arsenal if they want to.

Matt DC, Monday, 22 August 2011 11:21 (thirteen years ago)

not that i can recall the deets but doesnt that article contradict pretty much every statement wenger's made over the last 7 years

i like how in the comments the author comes back to say "OH YEAH UM wenger no longer has any faith in ffp being enforced so now he's saying fuck it"

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 11:23 (thirteen years ago)

At some point you just have to admit that Man City and Chelsea are completely fucking you when it comes to wages and there's nothing you can do to compete. Man United have done fine largely because of Fergie and they're probably still able to comfortably outpay Arsenal if they want to.

― Matt DC, Monday, 22 August 2011 12:21 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is bollocks, isnt everyone's main beef with wenger not that he won't pay top whack for megastars but that he's seemingly ignored (/completely lost the knack with) polishing up midrange dudes

like if he'd signed a few vidal/inler/m'vila/martin/vertonghens and said we won't pay stupid money then they'd be genuinely competitive and no one would be grousing

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 11:34 (thirteen years ago)

It's not bollocks if Arsenal fans are going "wah we can't sign [X player who's been massively hyped all summer]". But yeah point taken in that there are a lot of players round Arsenal who aren't improving anywhere near as quickly as you'd expect.

Matt DC, Monday, 22 August 2011 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

Vidal/Wilshere/Ramsey MF wd be colossal.

pandemic, Monday, 22 August 2011 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

yeah agree w/ rtc

vidal and enrique went for lowish fees and would demonstrably improve this arsenal side

nakhchivan, Monday, 22 August 2011 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

could have got vidal, inler, and defour for the price of 1x nasri

could get banega or maybe gago for 1x clichy

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

how long does banega have on his contract? he is really first rate and probably going to cost more than that

nakhchivan, Monday, 22 August 2011 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

summer 2013 but i was just going with the circa £10m paper talk there tbf

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

that was my point re 30m wingers, yeah

A couple of cb's that were worth 12m would be a sounder purchase, those guys dont cost 80k pw

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

How much is Phil Jones on now? I think Redknapp mentioned that his wages put him out of Spurs' reach.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Monday, 22 August 2011 12:20 (thirteen years ago)

Re. that piece I posted - isn't Mata only (lol) going to be on £55k/wk at Chelsea? Surely Arsenal's wage structure would allow that?

Obviously wanted us to win on Saturday, but kind of horrible to see Wenger like that. Nice to see him and KD shake hands at the start of the match btw, after 'piss off-gate' an' all.

Chris, Monday, 22 August 2011 12:20 (thirteen years ago)

I reckon Jones would be on around 50k a week

Number None, Monday, 22 August 2011 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

So what's thought to be holding up the Nasri deal at this point?

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

payment to agents of 3m

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

wenger wouldn't answer his emails.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 22 August 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

Rumour is that Nasri's got heart trouble.

James Mitchell, Monday, 22 August 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_NVzvUfvlM

James Mitchell, Monday, 22 August 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

iirc correctly the difference between the CL group stages and the Europa League in UEFA payouts alone is about 6m euros. I wonder if two different Nasris are on the block right now, one of them cup-tied.

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

Surprise, surprise, Howard Webb is reffing the Utd vs Arsenal game on Sunday. Won't be the reason why we lose, but still.

James Mitchell, Monday, 22 August 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

he won't be the difference if you win, the effing see

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

Weird that n1ck thinks i want no manager. Ok the divorce analogy may have caused that but...? To take out the stale PHW-led board, give Kroenke-Glazidis full control and if Wenger is... allowed to leave for PSG, lets say, replace him with... I dunno- De Boer? Klinsmann?* It's not like it is a horrible job no exciting manager will touch. If you are there over the next ten years you'll see the debt be finished in time for lolffp, the rise of Wilshere and Ramsey and so on.

*Ok someone less Spursy.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

Coyle. You want Coyle.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

...I think he could be good at steadying the ship tbh...

Wilshere, Gervinho, RVP, (lol Nasri), Djourou and Song could all be in the first xi for Udinese. Looks a lot different to the team at the weekend, with more creativity, links between midfield and attack, Tommy and Gervinho on the left means we will be able to play on the whole pitch again and defensive stability. Just have to see if morale is the killer factor - a convincing win is incredibly important going into Utd. (Also Spurs making the new Utd back 5 look even more uneasy tonight.)

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

hodgson surely deserves a shot at it.

LocalGarda, Monday, 22 August 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

surely Arsenal won't risk the lucrative Nasri deal by putting him in the line-up for Udinese

Gukbe, Monday, 22 August 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

xp lol was just about to say I'd love Hodgson to go there.

Chris, Monday, 22 August 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

qualifying is a lot more important than selling someone.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

Steve Bruce could surely be tempted

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

God, imagine that. Nasri would throw his toys out of the pram to such a ridiculous extent.

Matt DC, Monday, 22 August 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

Really really wanna watch Udinese but I think the lure of Exeter in the Carling Cup is just too hard to turn down.

Chris, Monday, 22 August 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

Nasri still has value for City, or ought to, even if he can only play in the league - still their top priority, right? Making the CL group stages is itself worth a lot of money and prestige for Arsenal.

xposts a convincing win, seriously? A 2-1 loss and advancement on away goals would be a huge victory at this point I think.

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

A team with Vermaelan, RVI, Gervinho and Wilshere should be able to pull off a convincing win. This is still a team with incredible talent, much like Liverpool a year ago was. It is just what happens on the pitch with it and how you work the less talented parts of it that will factor in. We beat Utd without Cesc a couple months ago and if some how we can have a morale-boost in the next coming days, are still able to do so again.

Did Joel Campbell get a work permit?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

This is still a team with incredible talent, much like Liverpool a year ago was

i can remember everyone saying this at the time.

tho my sarcasm aside arsenal prob have a better squad than liverpool did a year ago, the problem areas aren't that hard to see you'd say.

LocalGarda, Monday, 22 August 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

lol

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

Weird that n1ck thinks i want no manager.

No-one thinks you want no manager but at that point you hadn't named any candidates at all and still haven't made any viable suggestions. Expressing frustration is one thing but Wenger leaving would be a much bigger deal and more difficult task to accomplish than would replacing the manager at pretty much any other club bar United. While Wenger may not last the season it's not going to be an overnight departure and certainly no-one's getting pushed out the door any time soon.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 22 August 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

Why is De Boer not a viable suggestion?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

Because he has a job which he's been in for five minutes and hasn't, to my knowledge, expressed any dissatisfaction about?

Upt0eleven, Monday, 22 August 2011 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

why would we want someone prone to dissatisfaction? also he was there for a whole title winning season, not five minutes.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

he's p much avb but with a footballing background

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

If De Boer's been in his job for 5 minutes (half a season), Klinsmann's been in his for 30 seconds (one friendly). Not likely to leave.

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

What about Klopp? Or Garcia? Garrido? Or yes, even Coyle or Lambert? Lots of young and exciting managers looking for a step up from over-achieving with smaller teams to under-achieving with a big club. Or promote from within with Bould who has done a hell of a job with the u18s coming through atm?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

wait where has klinsmann gone then?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

xpost to boxall

I wouldn't be keen on him either. The point is, it's just a name with no connection to the club and that *does* matter at Arsenal, unlike Chelsea, so the AVB comparison is a waste of time.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 22 August 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

usa usa usa xp

dan m, Monday, 22 August 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

were wenger to offer himself to any of their current clubs the board would cum buckets

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

buckets ffs

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

someone with a connection to club matters to arsenal? do you remember when we signed arsene? getting the right man is all that matters.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

Arsene Wenger is preparing a bid of around £23m for Lille’s attacker Edin Hazard, according to numerous sources this morning.

The Arsenal manager has come under heavy criticism after the departure of Cesc Fabregas , and a start to the season that has seen his side pick up just one point in their opening two games. Arsenal’s defeat to Liverpool on the weekend emphasized the need to strengthen the current squad, and Hazard is believed to be just one of several targets the Frenchman is hoping to bring in before the closing of the transfer window on August 31st.

The future of Samir Nasri is still to be resolved, but should his proposed move to Manchester City go through in the coming days then the Arsenal boss will enter the transfer market with more funding than he is used to, and reports today have suggested he is more than happy to splash the cash, but only on the right kind of players.

At just 20-years-old, Edin Hazard has established himself as one of Lille’s top players, and both his goals and assists proved to be crucial as his side were crowned champions of France at the end of last season. Hazard has bagged himself 28 goals, and help set up another 22 in his last three seasons in Ligue 1, and Arsenal fans will be hoping that the Belgian international can replicate this kind of form in the Premier League, especially after the departure of both Cesc Fabregas and (potentially) Samir Nasri,

At £23m Hazard may be deemed a rather expensive gamble, and this kind of signing does appear to go against the tight-fisted reputation that Wenger has made for himself over the years. Wenger has vowed to remain in charge at Arsenal despite recent reports suggesting he may quit, and it seems as though his decision to go into the market relied heavily on the future of both Fabregas and Nasri.

With Champions League football far from guaranteed even this season at the Emirates, some Arsenal fans will have been preparing themselves for the worst over the summer period. However, if Wenger is able to rebuild and strengthen the current crop at Arsenal by bringing in players of high quality like Hazard, then there may well be some light at the end of the tunnel for these fans – we will perhaps be in a better position to know come August 31st.

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tbh a signing like this, which is possible and within our transfer/wage structure with limitless sell-on possibility, would make me shut tfu

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

tony adams says he's been approached for the arsenal job apparently

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

dont even joek

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

i think i'd personally start up Dial Sq FC if

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

anyone know anything about blackburn's new signign Simon Vukcevic

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

name looks like it could be venky'd up.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.realradiowales.co.uk/player/listen-again/kdfklf39/listen-2655

LOL tony's full insane pack of lies is still online

so good

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/kyrgiakos-leaves-reds

:(

arsene misses out on another top defender.

LocalGarda, Monday, 22 August 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

Hallelujah

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

:(

Chris, Monday, 22 August 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

“What’s his name? Yeah, Ashley Young. We used to play against him when he was at Aston Villa and we did all right. He’s not better just because he has changed club."

black swag (cozen), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

rip big soti

nakhchivan, Monday, 22 August 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

Surprise, surprise, Howard Webb is reffing the Utd vs Arsenal game on Sunday. Won't be the reason why we lose, but still.
― James Mitchell, Monday, August 22, 2011 3:13 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

webb's out on loan at newcastle iirc but hear own goal's back for sunday

black swag (cozen), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

bae is just the best

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

why has no one tapped him up for a weekly column? nult could ghostwrite it and everything

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

Kyrgiakos done okay tbf, he's just walking confirmation that your club is not a top club. Might as well have been sponsored by wonga.com and sung 'by far the greatest team / the world has ever seen' the past two years.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

one thing is certain; the cornrowed cameroonian will not have given a fuck

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

needed kyrgiakos to play the hard cop to agger's latterday beckenbauer in order to fully cement the soti and sweep partnership

nakhchivan, Monday, 22 August 2011 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

surely it is dennis bergkemp's time to shine.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

would prefer to stay in europe kthx

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

kyrgiakos did better than ok for liverpool at a time when a lot more lauded players were landing them in it every week iirc

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

Utd team

De Gea - Smalling, Jones, Evans, Evra - Nani, Cleverley, Anderson, Young - Rooney, Welbeck.

Number None, Monday, 22 August 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

intrestd to see welbeck, j&s and clev.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

Crikey, that's not too good.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

Ooh, Hernandez on the bench

Number None, Monday, 22 August 2011 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

Tottenham have failed to win any of their last 24 meetings with Manchester United in all competitions.

Spurs' last victory over United was a 3-1 success in May 2001 at White Hart Lane. They have failed to win any of the subsequent 20 league matches, two FA Cup ties and two League Cup games.

It's 22 years since Spurs last won at Old Trafford - a 1-0 victory in December 1989 courtesy of a Gary Lineker goal.

James Mitchell, Monday, 22 August 2011 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

I'm quite happy that Fergie is persisting with that team actually. Can't win anything with kids etc.

Number None, Monday, 22 August 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

I can see Spurs being unlucky not to win here.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

Mendez non-goal somewhere in the middle of that run xxp

The Vagina Monikers (onimo), Monday, 22 August 2011 18:14 (thirteen years ago)

Mendes, sorry

The Vagina Monikers (onimo), Monday, 22 August 2011 18:14 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs

Friedel, Walker, Dawson, Kaboul, Assou-Ekotto, Lennon, Livermore, Kranjcar, Bale, Van der Vaart, Defoe

Harry obviously remembers Friedel's regular superhuman performances against Utd

Number None, Monday, 22 August 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago)

Aw, I thought Harry might be playing mind games re Modric

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 18:17 (thirteen years ago)

livermore again?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

again and again

Number None, Monday, 22 August 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

Wow so Brad's in. Was still expecting Gomes tbh.

Chris, Monday, 22 August 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

Man for man, Spurs are arguably stronger. Still 5/1 to get a win though. Probably fairly, tbh. Huge psychological barrier to get over.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Monday, 22 August 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I'm down with Soto. Seems like a top bloke.

Chris, Monday, 22 August 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

big night 4 niko

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

he's up to it.

G neville playing a blinder here in his w/end roundup

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

is myp2p completely down?

Summer Slam! (Ste), Monday, 22 August 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

i guess so

rip

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

Always working links to be found here imo: http://209.44.122.29//

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

I've reluctantly switched to first row sports

Number None, Monday, 22 August 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

cheers boat

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

no prob!

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

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James Mitchell, Monday, 22 August 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

According to OptaJoe, Friedel hasn't missed a top-flight game since May 2004. Which is kind of amazing but simultaneously unsurprising.

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 22 August 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago)

I'm mildly impressed

once a week is ample, Monday, 22 August 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14623543.stm

great fucking news; hilarious picture of torres surely not the only mikel one handy?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

rafalol van der vaart

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

I heard Friedel louder than the commentator on that corner.

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

brad is spurs oldest player since ww2 according to commentator

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

My stream just left the match and went into a menu, where the guy streaming it slowly went through the 'select language' window changing it from Español to English. Bless him.

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

did alan smith just say he loves phil jones? hmm...

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

link to stream ?

Summer Slam! (Ste), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

Commentator going through the subs earlier - p sure he said "Jermaine Genius"

The Vagina Monikers (onimo), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

xposts I've watched matches where the host switched over to porn for 10+ minutes at half-time, then back.

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

I'm watching this one - really good so far

http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/3186/2/manchester-united-vs-tottenham-hotspur.html

The Vagina Monikers (onimo), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

on sopcast taken from lbi's link upthread

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

De Gea reminds me of:

http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/p/peaches/album-peaches-fatherfucker.jpg

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

class save by the old man there

sonderangerbot, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

this is gonna be a great game

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

utd looking good, spurs looking like the spurs who play utd

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

SHIT AARON LENNON

James Mitchell, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs fans chanting "you're just a shit Aaron Lennon" at Aaron Lennon

The Vagina Monikers (onimo), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

lol

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

lolsome passing errors so far but two teams with no dm's is gonna be good.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

VdV was never going to get that.

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

wtf

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

yeah did not hear 'you're just a' in that.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

welcome to jamrock de gea

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

Gareth van Injury

James Mitchell, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

phil thug jones

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

love kyle walker but i will be v surprised if playing him with lennon won't be anything other than a massive waste of time

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

hand ball there too

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

how was that jones tackle not either a free kick or a corner?

sonderangerbot, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

anyone else find a centre half wearing #4 rong? i mean its not the worst numbering issue but it still doesn't seem right.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

Gareth feign Injury morelike xxxp

The Vagina Monikers (onimo), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

these fucking balls behind our own backline, wtf

Xp yeah walker lennon just choking each other, it's why corluka's a great partner for him tbh

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

how was that jones tackle not either a free kick or a corner?

― sonderangerbot, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:18 (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

he is playing for utd at home?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

aw that's bollocks, jones cleaned him out. Bad tackle, yellow card. We'll see does dawson get a free shot at rooney, shall we?

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

It was a foul. Bale wasn't really hurt but decided to roll around for a bit = feigning injury.

The Vagina Monikers (onimo), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

He waved angrily in Bale's direction, that's how you know it was a dive.

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

Lennon doing some awesome raking there (until the cross)

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

you have watched a team play utd at ot before, yes darragh?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

i think that was walker, not lennon?

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

defoe stitched right up played up top in this side

come end of the season you will all see vdv is the problem, mark my words

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

vdv krancjar both look out of shape

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

brad's giving off a solid vibe imo, can see the general improvement over gomey already

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

defoe looks bright so far imo rtc, but had i to choose it'd be pav static in front of vdv, if defoe vdv don't work

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

member when rooney was as bad as torres

black swag (cozen), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

yeah pav vdv trumps jd crouch i agree

except when it doesnt obv

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

rooney looks... different?

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:32 (thirteen years ago)

such an exhilarating scent of lolblood in the water every time de gea's got the ball, just delightful

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

was trying to work out if rooney's hair really does looks weird or if it's just foreknowledge of fakery making it so

probly the former but i can't put a finger on why

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

wesley's transplant > wayne's

black swag (cozen), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

He looks young & thin of a sudden, I don't think it's much to do with the hair. He looked like real shit before.

Ooh, good effort.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

44 mins and I've just noticed Defoe's playing

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:45 (thirteen years ago)

shit Michael Jackson, is that what I'm hearing now?

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:45 (thirteen years ago)

Yes

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

This Spurs greek chorus is top entertainment tonight

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

ref makin some strange ones?

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

'just a shit barcelona'

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

livermore having a very good game in a more destructive role than i'd thought.

Down to whichever front two clicks in second half, neither on same level just yet.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

haha thanks mizzell!

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

was trying to work out if rooney's hair really does looks weird or if it's just foreknowledge of fakery making it so

probly the former but i can't put a finger on why

― r|t|c, Monday, August 22, 2011 9:39 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

I didn't know anything about the latter and immediately saw something was different

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

You'd think you lads would want to save your ref conspiracy stuff til something properly controversial happens.

Number None, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

dunno, thought the bale decision was pretty weird. phil jones supposedly got the ball and yet it was then given as a man u goal kick. that was a yellow card and a free in.

LocalGarda, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

That was a great attack by Spurs. Too bad Bale screwed it up

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

I too thought the Bale decision was weird, but don't consider it sufficient evidence at this point that Pro-Man Utd lizard shapeshifters are up to their old tricks

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

thought that lennon decision was mighty weird too

sonderangerbot, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

just a shit aaron lennon there

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

That looked like a wrist-breaker from Anderson.

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

was trying to work out if rooney's hair really does looks weird or if it's just foreknowledge of fakery making it so

the hairline does seem a bit too precisely geometrical, i think.

Merdeyeux, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

rooney looks great out there, can't front

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

i am impressed by young and cleverly. think this could be a neat midfield for a couple years.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

They'd be mad to sign Sneijder at this point, unless Rooney breaks something in the next week.

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

samson innit

torres should get it done too

xps

black swag (cozen), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

Evans is weak, you need him in an O'Shea role imo

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

when did rooney get it done btw?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

That was a superb cross by Cleverly

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

sweet header

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

nice

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

fuckin slack from bale, dawson

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

The kids are alright

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

VdV to be subbed before 70'

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

ey number none when does lizard man evans get his second booking btw?

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

i feel a lot of players are gonna make themselves look like assholes trying to outsmart de gea like that in the coming few weeks

sonderangerbot, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

great free kick by rooney's hair

black swag (cozen), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

triffic save

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

different kind of aggression from rooney tonite imo, you can tell he feels sexy again

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

Did it just say: Possession ManU 71% - Spurs 29%? Ouch

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

It's funny, Friedel sounds at least 60% English when he does commentary on American TV but I don't hear any of it in his shouting tonight.

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs are a mess

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah this is hopeless.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

wilting badly out there.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

- harry with a substitution...
- "TOM!!"
- ... pavluychenko by the looks of it..

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

Can't imagine what Man Utd - Hearts would look like.

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

yeah heard that.

Krancjar vdv not worth having out there by now tbh

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

For all the dominance of the last 15-20 mins, it's still only 1-0

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

spanish commentator seems to keep finding 2 Ks in pronouncing Ashley Young

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

And that is that

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

anderson u dork

carstens, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

No, it's not

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

jones is having a smashing game

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

(xp to self)

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

woof

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

cringe induciong celebration

LocalGarda, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

ManU look ten times as fit

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

ok that goal was sweet and spurs look worse than we do. commentator has said 'tika taka' twice.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

i can only imagine that cleverley is the subject of a great many puns

mookieproof, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

exceptional

Utd have been brilliant this half

How will they cope without carrick tho?

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

think we've got the same stream sam :)

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

are you hearts in disguise

black swag (cozen), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

dunno, spurs were alright for most of this game, just lacking any sort of option up front.

lol de gea.

LocalGarda, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

now we live in a .gif age i am thinking of a celebration inspired thread 'black ppl can't dance' ft. anderson, henry, ade etc. etc.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

Nah, Spurs haven't been alright after the first 30mins

xp

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs are so static. When they attack there's a window of a couple of seconds where everything needs to go right or momentum is lost; with Utd the threat is there all the way through.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

spurs looking fat, tbh. That simple. Thudd heavy as i've seen him in the shirt, niko vdv not in shape.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

Exactly

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

vdv looks like he could play centre in a game of rugby.

LocalGarda, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

gotta admit man u look scintillating tho.

LocalGarda, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

"Ryan Giggs... Uno fenomeno authentico!"

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

Thought Spurs looked good first 10 mins of the 2nd half. Has Berbatov run over Ferguson's dog or something?

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

think we'll struggle to get three st this stage tbh

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

hey guys rooney still cant score sitters its cool

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

This North London disarray is good news for Liverpool.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

Wolves and ManU level at second place now WHO OF THE TWO WILL PLAY CL NEXT YEAR?

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, they both will - neither's going to lose a qualifier, let's be honest.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

I'd like Wolves to be the Blackburn of the PL era

xp

damnit

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

Bang

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

that puts Spurs bottom

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

spanish commentators just pronounced it de *hard G*ea and de Hea within the same sentence - it's de Hea, right? and as i type i have missed a goal.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

Brad looked out of position for that, no?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

dunno, it was fairly nailed to the corner.

is it too early to say de gea is crap?

LocalGarda, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

no.

But two unmarked fucking headers on the penalty spot might convince arry we neec to look at cb's

Out of order from defoe

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

"type of challenge he should expect in england"

sonderangerbot, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

De Gea's doing his best to look crap, certainly.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

is it too early to say de gea is crap?

― LocalGarda, Monday, 22 August 2011 21:49 (38 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yes it is. give him 5 years.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

At least Arsenal are perverse enough for next week not to be a foregone conclusion.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

yes it is. give him 5 years.

good point. prob should give him 10 years or so really.

LocalGarda, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

levy get us a fuckin target man ffs

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

de gea was ok imo, couple decent saves.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

He fell over when tripped and shouted when almost kicked in the face, you can tell he's crap.

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

I meant more the mistakes, eg flapping at that cross which could v v nearly gavet Spurs a lifeline that would have made it an uncomfortable end, and dropping the shot before Defoe kicked him.

LocalGarda, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

a million xposts to darragh - Evans clearly took on the "Vidic role" tonight. Really excited about Welbeck, he wasn't really in the game til the second half but he's always liable to come up with something unexpected like the backheel for Anderson's goal and it was sweet seeing him and Cleverley link up.

Number None, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

god that was nult-like...you get my point tho! xpost

LocalGarda, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I was just being a dick, you have a point, still think it's too early to condemn though.

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

Not too bothered about De Gea tbh, clean sheet will do him good. Like the way he often looks for a pass rather than just booting it. There'll be mistakes but i can live with that

Number None, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

spanish commentators just pronounced it de *hard G*ea and de Hea within the same sentence - it's de Hea, right? and as i type i have missed a goal.

I always thought it was de Hea.

Chris, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

Definitely 'Hea'.

James Mitchell, Monday, 22 August 2011 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

how will de gea hold up against arsene wenger's "shoot on sight" arsenal?

black swag (cozen), Monday, 22 August 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

yeah can he handle it on a balmy summer afternoon at (home to) arsenal

LocalGarda, Monday, 22 August 2011 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

haha xp especially if they throw Arshavin up as a target man

Ismael Klata, Monday, 22 August 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

lennon back to his worst tonight.

Season starts here tbh, that's out of the way.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

Next week Man City I thought I heard?

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

Like the way he often looks for a pass rather than just booting it.

― Number None, Monday, 22 August 2011 21:59 (11 minutes ago)

supposedly the distribution was what put him ahead of stekelenberg et al in utd's thinking

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

I thought we were fine for 55mins but almost too patient until the final third when we just looked too hopeful, too many long range shots. After the goal it was obvious what was going to happen. At least Old Trafford is out of the way I suppose.

We looked worse as soon as we started chasing it, and no real threat upfront or balance in midfield throughout.

Friedel looks better than Gomes at least. Nice to see a Spurs keeper who can organise an area.

Matt DC, Monday, 22 August 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

come end of the season you will all see vdv is the problem, mark my words

he was awful. dumb shots from outside the box and there with 7 mins left he loses the ball in midfield and then turns his back on an oncoming player right after that.

Michael B, Monday, 22 August 2011 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

Also, Jones and Smalling are really really good

Number None, Monday, 22 August 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

well that was painfully inevitable

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 August 2011 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

couldnt tell with vdv whether he'd been instructed to take silly potshots at de gea all night or if he was just totally naffed off with everyone after lennon didnt cut back to him and thought he'd go rogue

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

de Gea is probably shit btw

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 August 2011 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

i did feel for vdv after the lennon thing actually but jaysus he is such a pain in the balls to fit into a team without it revolving solely around him

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

thought vdv was probably out of position but that's just a polite ways of saying "pain in the balls to fit into a team without it revolving solely around him" tbh

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 August 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

not sure if united were really good tonight or if spurs made them look good. they won an awful lot of the 50/50 balls and rooney was bossing everyone around him and everyone looked sharp.

not sure about that defence though. almost everything were dealt with but always a bit laboured (one too many tricky dribbles to get out of trouble from defence?) Don't think de gea was that bad - missing the cross was poor and looked a bit nervous kicking the ball (understandable). Fumbling the Thudd was harsh considering how much that ball was cunted towards him - will see how it goes wouldn't be surprise to see a few goals from mistakes from this defence though.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 22 August 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago)

Also, Jones and Smalling are really really good

and wellbeck and young

did think that bale, livermore, friedel looked bright for us, and defoe played smarter than he did in any game the whole of last season. but i can't look past the leadenleggedness of niko and vdv for the entire second half to explain how that fell apart, and when livermore (who'd been closing down very well in cm) came off for the quarterpounder it was over as a defensive effort.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

Was impressed by Livermore, thought he held his own.

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

are people here still going to keep pretending huddlestone isn't rubbish btw

LocalGarda, Monday, 22 August 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

lol

he's fat, and he tackles inadvisably at times, but he is the best passer of the ball in the world

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 22:49 (thirteen years ago)

if watching thudd thudd a ball across the park doesnt stir something in your breast there's clearly something wrong with you, it's a magnificent sight

might not mean he's the best player mind but still

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

actually thought he was alright when he came on tbh, should have had livermore alongside him though

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

man friedel is older than i am

mookieproof, Monday, 22 August 2011 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/22/manchester-city-fringe-players-leave

so adebayor doesnt have to train with anyone, doesnt have to attend matches, and gets 150k a week, 600k a month, 7.2m a year til 2014. he must really be on the horns of a dilemma right now.

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

how do you manage to stay as fat as thudd when you have the training regime of a top ('top') club imposing itself upon you? do they let him stay out and ping 70-yard balls into skips while everybody else is in the gym?

Merdeyeux, Monday, 22 August 2011 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

icebergers iirc

what d'you mean adebayor doesn't have to train xp?

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

SWP only on 60/week? Thought it was more.

new Joorabchian client Nigel de Jong rejects contract offer, is one thing in that piece that could affect the actual City team.

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

pffft they'll just buy melo or busquiets or someone and forget de jong exists

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

The idea that those three are comparable in ability I find strange. Though De Jong might be roughly in the middle of the two.

boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

he's pretty rough in the middle as is

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

Anderson isn't the slimmest either, which is worrying for a Brazilian at his age. He's improved his shooting a thousandfold though, scored a few nice composed finishes in pre-season too

Number None, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:02 (thirteen years ago)

it was a ref to his style of play/position tbh

anderson doesn't look to be carrying weight to me, tbh, that's his build imo. he's as good a central option as utd have, and has deserved a place instead of carrick for so long now i'm bored by making the argument

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:09 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, i love Anderson (and hate Carrick with all my soul) but we kinda need a defensive midfield option for more challenging games

Number None, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago)

still anderson (not forgetting permanently fucked options like fletcher, obv).

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:13 (thirteen years ago)

Fletcher played 90 mins with the reserves last week, so he should be back soon barring another relapse. I would love to see the Cleverley/Anderson partnership become first-choice but we'll see. It's certainly made our central midfield a hell of a lot more dynamic than it has been in years.

Number None, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:21 (thirteen years ago)

well,

that and facing a spurs cm of krancjar and livermore tbf

made it a crackign game though

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:22 (thirteen years ago)

I'm saying. I imagine we'll revert to five in midfield away from home against tougher opposition

Number None, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:26 (thirteen years ago)

tougher opposition than us? be srs

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:27 (thirteen years ago)

maybe against liverpool's wave after wave of central midfielders

Number None, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:29 (thirteen years ago)

don't mind them, their numbers are unimportant. they're the footballing equivalent of bond fodder, the faceless chancers overcome by our hero just to fit in a shakycam scene.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:31 (thirteen years ago)

I quite like the way Chelsea, City, and Liverpool have all gone for the stocking their team with central midfielders tactic over the past few years and Utd have just said fuck it by and large. Wingers are underrated

Number None, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:35 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno, utd spent a large part of the cron era with rooney and tevez out wide- that wasn't what you'd call natural width. it's only with the success of valencia (or, perhaps, the arrival of rooney as a cross-getter-onner) that ferguson appears to have begun to value natural wide players doing natural wid eplayer things again.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:38 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, we were almost forced into that due to Ronaldo's unorthodox approach to positional play. I mean there's not many players who you can let get away with going wherever they want like that. Fergie has always valued his wide players though and i think once Ronaldo left he saw an opportunity to get back to a wing-based style

Number None, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:44 (thirteen years ago)

was ronaldo, iyo, a wing-based-god?

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:44 (thirteen years ago)

oh ffs not here too

boxall, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:46 (thirteen years ago)

less and less as time went on. Like i say, towards the end he basically went where the hell we wanted. He's never been a great crosser but he's a fantastic header of the ball, and yet he's not a striker exactly. He's something different.

Number None, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:49 (thirteen years ago)

if Lil B played football i think he'd be like the opposite of Ronaldo

Number None, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:55 (thirteen years ago)

Saw a great clip of CRon doing some promo for his new Nike boots a while ago, went something like "They are beautiful, like me". Should really hate him for that, but it kind of made me love him even more.

Chris, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 01:07 (thirteen years ago)

I always figured he bought that kid so he could mold it into a perfect replica of himself

Number None, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 01:10 (thirteen years ago)

the kid is called Cristiano naturally

Number None, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 01:11 (thirteen years ago)

The Madrid 7-yr-old looks a bit like Cristiano I think, despite the Messi haircut.

boxall, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 01:13 (thirteen years ago)

Cristiano Naturally, ironically enough

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 01:14 (thirteen years ago)

natural wide players doing natural wide player things like being natural cunts

http://www.bar-kulan.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Nani-Manchester-United.jpg

boxall, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 01:17 (thirteen years ago)

i don't mind him so much since he got good tbh

unfinested username clusterfucks i have groaned (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 01:18 (thirteen years ago)

Oh I think he's great, should never give up a place to Valencia. Liked the Spurs chants tonight as well though.

boxall, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 01:20 (thirteen years ago)

Utd fans hated Nani before anyone else tbh

Number None, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 01:23 (thirteen years ago)

glorycunters

unfinested username clusterfucks i have groaned (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 01:24 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/23/liverpool-craig-bellamy-shock-return

no idea what paying bellers 95k a week is about but this coates lad totes sounds like a worthy successor to soto

r|t|c, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 02:34 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEzpcxY5Sf4

otoh maybe not

r|t|c, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 02:36 (thirteen years ago)

He was great in the Copa America, though the entire Uruguay defence was rock solid.

boxall, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 02:39 (thirteen years ago)

Redknapp says Tottenham came close to signing Mata but the winger snubbed them because he was offered higher wages at Stamford Bridge.

The Spurs boss said: ‘We were in for Mata and close to doing a deal. But he didn’t come and Chelsea came in.

'Obviously they can blow you out of the water wage wise, and then he changes his mind and they get him. It’s all about wages.’

If only 'arry was some kind of wheeler or dealer, etc... part 94.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 07:32 (thirteen years ago)

I really rate Walbeck, liked him ever since I first saw him coming through with that laughable oaf Machedo. Where is Machedo now? He may have scored a few goals, but he was never going to be a footballer.

Didn't see the game but comments on twitter were divided between Utd fans salivating at THE KIDS and everybody else pointing out how shit Spurs were.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 08:23 (thirteen years ago)

Pretty much. Utd were good; Spurs didn't exactly match them but were good enough in the first half, though would be so much better with a bit of movement. Who's responsible for that sort of coaching? Could see them struggling in a lot of games this season unless that's addressed, and you've got to be kidding me about Modric going meaning maybe a stronger team.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 08:33 (thirteen years ago)

(many xps) I thought Anderson looked great last night and I wouldn't let Carrick in the first team. I've been surprised at how good Young's looked as well.

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 08:34 (thirteen years ago)

THE KIDS thing is a surprise too - it's not like these guys are unknowns.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 08:35 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah. Towards the end of the first half the commentary team on Sky were saying "it's not really working for United with these youngsters, maybe it's time to look at the bench and bring on the experience of Carrick and Park" which was utter nonsense, because United were looking good, and Park would come on for either Nani or Young (both experienced and playing well), and Carrick is crap, and most of 'the kids' were playing in defence because of injuries rather than a random experiment.

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 08:47 (thirteen years ago)

Just want to point out that Anderson has an abnormally big arse for a footballer and the most annoying goal celebration in the world.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 08:47 (thirteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure that Redknapp instructed Spurs to try and lob balls over De Gea's head at every opportunity, they were all at it. But he fucked up tactically - what's the point of 4-4-1-1 when you don't have to accommodate VDV and Modric in the same team?

Could have done with Pav's height upfront as Defoe is never going to work as a lone striker, especially if we keep launching hopeful balls forward that he's about a foot too short to get on the end of. And 4-4-2 once we were already chasing the game was too late, it just enabled United to counter whenever we did. Weird as we'd been quite disciplined at keeping our shape before then, strange shortage of wingplay - apparently "get it to Bale at all costs" isn't our main gameplan any more.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 08:51 (thirteen years ago)

have no recollection of pav doing anything whatsoever after coming on

bale had a fair amount of the ball but all of it after he'd drifted way way infield

r|t|c, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:08 (thirteen years ago)

I'm surprised at Young too, but have now reached the point where when Ferguson signs a player I don't really rate I just accept that I don't actually know what I'm talking about even when I eventually turn out to be right (Carrick, Berbatov and I'm still not sure about Smalling).

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:10 (thirteen years ago)

I always think Pav should start for Spurs until I actually see him play.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:11 (thirteen years ago)

^ truth bomb for the ages

r|t|c, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:24 (thirteen years ago)

Anderson actually uses his abnormally big arse as an effective shield a lot of the time

Number None, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:27 (thirteen years ago)

^ The Dalglish Manoeuvre.

Stevie T, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:40 (thirteen years ago)

anderson celebration >>>>>>>>>>>>> robbie keane celebration x 400123992

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:49 (thirteen years ago)

when he does the cartwheel i often hope he was carrying two real guns and he had them pointing the wrong way

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:51 (thirteen years ago)

The Dalglish Manoeuvre.

OTM, he made the big arse a potent weapon and one to be feared by any and all opponents

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:52 (thirteen years ago)

I'm surprised at Young too, but have now reached the point where when Ferguson signs a player I don't really rate I just accept that I don't actually know what I'm talking about even when I eventually turn out to be right (Carrick, Berbatov and I'm still not sure about Smalling).

You were totally OTM about last season's top scorer Berbatov, yes.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 10:10 (thirteen years ago)

8 out of 20 goals were against blackburn and birmingham to be fair.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 10:26 (thirteen years ago)

As an aside it does seem completely fucking mental that tht two top goalscorers in the league last season aren't getting a game right now.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

Bit like Joe Hart getting picked ahead of Shay Given for the entirety of last season

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

He had a blip of form last season (good hat-trick against Liverpool) but has never looked good enough to play for United, despite all the bollocks about us English heathens being too thick to appreciate his magnificent grace and style or whatever it is.

Fergie came round to my way of thinking in spring, but I called it the first time I saw him wear a United shirt and wondered if I'd ever seen a Manc show less interest in a game under Ferguson.

And when did 'effort', 'pride' and 'passion' become dirty words anyway?

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 10:34 (thirteen years ago)

it's political correctness gone mad it is

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago)

And when did 'effort', 'pride' and 'passion' become dirty words anyway?

― isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 11:34 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

the BBC gave Shearer a job while Allardyce was seen as the next England manager. It was a simpler time, before recessions and yobs kicking a ball down your street.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 10:46 (thirteen years ago)

Pretty sure Berbatov had that same disiniterested can't-be-arsed look on his face on his wedding day.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 10:49 (thirteen years ago)

he's male

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 10:53 (thirteen years ago)

If Ferguson isn't going to sell him, what is he going to do with him exactly? He's fifth choice now, assuming Owen getting more games isn't just trolling. PSG must be a done deal, in which case rip my fantasy team's chances.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 11:00 (thirteen years ago)

would like to see him as an eto'o replacement (sneijder bargaining chip?)

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

Nasri has gone to Citeh.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

good. For arsenal.

unfinested username clusterfucks i have groaned (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

Presume 'arry will get to 'ave a go for him next summer.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

if city agree to pay half his wages yeah, why not.

It's prob something wenger should look at tbh.

unfinested username clusterfucks i have groaned (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

Nasri seems so unnecessary for City.

pandemic, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't realise he cost Arsenal £15.8m, for some reason I thought it was £10m or so.

pandemic, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

Nasri seems so unnecessary for City.

ah but just buying all the best players from opponents and then benching them, is a tactic too :)

Ludo, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

Nah Nasri will be first choice in that XI - it's Milner/Johnson/Super Mario that will slip down the pecking order.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

UEFA should probably do something about that huh.

unfinested username clusterfucks i have groaned (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

The fact that, amid all Man City's ludicrous excesses, a player as limited as Gareth Barry still has a regular starting berth is kind of mind-boggling.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

On pace for 19 goals this season tbf

pandemic, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

http://h3.abload.de/img/ando0cxo.gif

Number None, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

that is mesmerising.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

I noticed that during the match but the commentator didn't seem to pick up on it at all.

Chris, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

'One day I will play here...'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X7JAF77w1c

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

'If one day I cry, it will be when I play here.'

I'm actually welling up watching this, claimed to fall in love with Chelsea when he saw Jimmy Floyd score against Man U...

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

'You coming to the press-room? Then you can dream away further after that.'
'Dreaming? I'm not going to dream. I will play here one day, you'll see'

It's beautiful.

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

anderson all a bit cornette face there, its freaking me out

also nice to be reminded he's a brazilian footballer once in a while

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

he will want to go to man city a year after

xpost

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

I'VE BEEN TO STAMFORD BRIDGE AND I HAD TO DO THAT. IN A FEW YEARS I'LL BE A CHELSEA PLAYER TOO. REMEMBER THE NAME Jerome Tomsell. I'm 9 and i live in peckham. Lets hope by then the riots will stop so i can continue my dream to meet EL NINO!
bluboroughman 1 week ago

post, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

<3

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

I loved that comment. I'm remembering the name.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

EU-10BJT

boxall, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

"EmmanuelF4: "@JackWilshere: Good luck to my friend @Nanas08 (mr Nasri) learnt a lot from him. World class player! Will be missed!"Pffffff comeon Jack"
--http://twitter.com/EmmanuelF4/status/106004890110791680

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

is samir gonna have to change his twitter handle or will they give him #8 just to keep the internet going?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

EmmanuelF4 Emmanuel Y Frimpong
Money is the Roots of all Evil
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply

don't remember watching Roots and thinking it was just bout money.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

Nasri seems so unnecessary for City.

Ah, you Englishes, they've got him so none of their rivals have him, the Old Firm have being doing that since about 1892.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

Frimpong never got the chance to learn from @nanas08 e.g. how to RT.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

Emmanuel Y Frimpong
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r|t|c, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYTcf55B-oY

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

lol

The Vagina Monikers (onimo), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

<3 Big Send

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

Gold.

ailsa, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

I LOLed

and at this:

different kind of aggression from rooney tonite imo, you can tell he feels sexy again

― r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:24 (Yesterday)

Lophar Andreusz DeLeone (admrl), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

JOS, Nigeria, Aug 23 (Reuters) - The kidnappers who abducted Chelsea midfielder John Obi Mikel's father in Nigeria demanded a ransom of $4 billion, the local police commissioner said on Tuesday.
...
"(The kidnappers) asked him to give them $4 billion which they called chicken change to Mikel Obi and his club Chelsea,"

Will this bubble ever pop?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

EmmanuelF4 Emmanuel Y Frimpong
@sanchezwatt is staying Over Mine tonight he has a game tomoz so sending him Bed Nice and Early Love YOU all #Night

LocalGarda, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

i didn't make that up btw

LocalGarda, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/1276/wenger.png

I know the squad's a little threadbare but this is ridiculous.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 10:06 (thirteen years ago)

i cannae be bothered to start a thread for this seasons league cup but surely this:

QPR manager Neil Warnock says he is glad to have been knocked out of the Carling Cup following their 2-0 loss at home to Rochdale.

should mean qpr fans get a refund etc. and is worse than ol' one in the hole or ollie fielding a 'weaker' team last season?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 11:14 (thirteen years ago)

Roy Hodgson did the old name forgetting diss last week with "The Carlsberg Cup or whatever it's called - see I can't even remember its name never mind be arsed winning a game in it."

The Vagina Monikers (onimo), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 11:21 (thirteen years ago)

I think QPR fans saw this coming - hence only 4000 of them out last night. The gripes from the fans aren't so much that a second team was put out, but that none of them appeared to give a shit.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 11:23 (thirteen years ago)

Typical Hughson

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 11:24 (thirteen years ago)

neil also said something like "it's not like we're not going to win it are we", before then saying he'll give the fa cup a go cos he likes that one.

not sure you can really single anyone out for not taking the carling cup srsly though. plus there's not the same obligation to cup competitions as there is a league - the obligation is to um, the spirit of football and yknow, winning stuff.

it's difficult cos going out at the same stage last season was a great help to our winning the league, but then when someone comes out and says "birmingham would swap 17th in the prem for that cup now" you just want to kill yourself.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 11:32 (thirteen years ago)

qpr supposedly talking to barton today according to sky btw

r|t|c, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 11:33 (thirteen years ago)

damn was just starting to like them

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

The Brum one isn't even either-or, they were doing alright in the league at the time they won the Carling Cup, they blew it from February onwards.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

qpr supposedly talking to barton today according to sky btw

Warnock and Joey having a chat about Nietzsche huh?

Chris, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

Looking forward to some quality Barton/Pete Doherty meetings of minds.

Stevie T, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

modric out, cole in

glasgow based god (cozen), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

Joey7Barton Joseph Barton
Anyone got any good blogging sites for me to study and see what there all about before I dare to enter this world? Please?

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

Joe? Ashley? Carlton? Andrew "Andy"? xp

Um yeah, hi, that's (onimo), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

tempted to

'@Joey7Barton try http://heliumblog.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/how-to-avoid-confusing-there-their-and-theyre/'

Um yeah, hi, that's (onimo), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

lol is joey talking about us there

r|t|c, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

Joey7Barton Joseph Barton
What a guy, Isambard Kingdom Brunel...........
20 hours ago

r|t|c, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 12:08 (thirteen years ago)

Boris Johnson is to offer Tottenham Hotspur a huge cash injection in a move that could finally end the battle over the Olympic Stadium, the Standard can reveal.

The Mayor is proposing to use almost half of the £20 million given by the Treasury to rebuild riot-damaged Tottenham and Croydon to help the football club push through its plans for a new 56,250-seat stadium.

It would allow the football club to press ahead with its £400 million redevelopment of White Hart Lane rather than continue its court bid to gain control of the Olympic Stadium, which has been awarded to West Ham United.

Senior City Hall sources today told the Standard that a deal is on the table that will mean the Mayor's office will be responsible for more than £8 million worth of regeneration around the new stadium development, meaning that the planning application can finally go through.

It is also believed that Mr Johnson will consider buying some of the land around the stadium, which could then be used by the Greater London Authority to encourage businesses back into the area by offering "regeneration perks".

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23980883-boris-johnson-gives-spurs-pound-8-million-of-riot-cash.do

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck off Boris.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

The people burned out of their homes, and the shopkeepers whose properties were smashed, have been strident in their calls for the reconstruction money to go to Daniel Levy and the ENIC investment fund, who are best placed to know what will truly help the local community.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

I LOLed

and at this:

different kind of aggression from rooney tonite imo, you can tell he feels sexy again

― r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:24 (Yesterday)

― Lophar Andreusz DeLeone (admrl), Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^ otm

caek, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

This David Conn Tevez piece leaves me wondering: (i) whether Carlos sees any of the cash or Joorabchian keeps him happy with a sleeping-bag in a bedsit; and (ii) how this came about in the first place.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

if I understood the piece, the answer to (ii) is that at Corinthians Joorabchian/MSI weren't just inserting themselves between club and player like they have with West Ham, Utd and City, they actually ran the club, so he signed away his ownership rights with his contract? Mascherano the same, he was just fortunate that Liverpool bought him out entirely.

boxall, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

Joey7Barton Joseph Barton
Don't want to leave Newcastle........I've made that clear but my hands are tied.
2 hours ago

Joey7Barton Joseph Barton
Going for a medical now, still no contract offer from NUFC.......think that just about makes my mind up.
3 hours ago

r|t|c, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

blimey are we actually gonna pull this off? i just assumed willy mckay was spreading the news to pull bigger clubs in

really hope it's not true that we're matching his 60k a week wages, but i know it probably is. i know the mittals can theoretically easily afford it but still getting a portsmouth vibe about all this (or palace with tony fernandes as well-meaning idiot mark goldberg)...

r|t|c, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

'arry's been caught 'aving a go:

"Separately, and only for clarification as we have been inundated with inquiries with regard to a Scotland Yard statement today, we confirm the Metropolitan Police's Economic and Specialist Crimes Unit is dealing with the serious matter of a private investigator acting unlawfully, reportedly under instruction by Tottenham Hotspur.

"This is in relation to reported breaches of the Data Protection Act and Computer Misuse Act as a result of the unlawful acquisition of bank and telephone records belonging to senior executives at the club and the OPLC.

"We are advised that if found guilty of these crimes, those responsible can expect to receive custodial sentences. We have full faith in the police investigation into this matter and shall continue to provide the fullest of assistance to them.

"In response to media inquiries, we can confirm that West Ham today received a document from Tottenham asking us to give up our claims against them in relation to the above, in return for Tottenham withdrawing their judicial review proceedings. West Ham naturally refused.

http://www.whufc.com/articles/20110824/west-ham-united-statement_2236884_2431058

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

The Blues are also reportedly planning a final offer for their long-term target Luka Modric, in which Tottenham will be offered £30m - plus midfielder Yossi Benayoun - and as a further enticement, striker Daniel Sturridge on a season-long loan.
Full story: Caught Offside

lol transfer rumours and all that but this would be one hell of a deal for spurs imo.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 25 August 2011 06:48 (thirteen years ago)

Daniel Sturridge had gone to Chelsea?

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Thursday, 25 August 2011 06:56 (thirteen years ago)

supposedly.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 25 August 2011 07:07 (thirteen years ago)

I disagree but this'll happen now I think - the relationship seems to have broken down beyond repair. I still say Spurs needed a guy of Modric calibre more than three or four at the level below.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 August 2011 07:15 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think it'll happen - the more Modric pisses and whines in an attempt to force a move the less like Levy will be to cave into it. He'll dig his heels in. Kinda depends on what kind of mediating role Redknapp is playing I suppose.

Yossi Benayoun would immediately feel surplus to requirements at Spurs - he's a very good player but another lightweight winger with a poor injury record is not exactly what we need right now. Would take Sturridge but a season long loan that Chelsea would doubtless offer to some other club anyway feels like adding insult to injury.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 August 2011 09:11 (thirteen years ago)

Not sure there's an option to turning it down unless Modric and Levy can get together to work something out, which they apparently haven't been able to yet. Harry seemed fairly open about the fact that he doesn't feel able to play Modric in his current mood and sees Levy as key to fixing things. I'm sure that he's doing great work on the Adebayor / Diarra deals but it's crazy if he hasn't talked to our best player weeks after all this blew up. Levy can dig his heels in all he wants but if Luka's sitting in the stands, nobody's going to benefit.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Thursday, 25 August 2011 09:20 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah that's true. Really the best option strikes me as "give us one more year then we'll let you go" but if Levy really did go back on a similar agreement last year then that's not going to wash.

Amid all the hysteria, it's worth pointing out that Modric was out injured for at least a half of the season when we finished fourth.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 August 2011 09:22 (thirteen years ago)

Actually I'm not sure that Levy story *is* true because Modric was not particularly fiercely coveted a year ago by Chelsea or anyone else.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 August 2011 09:23 (thirteen years ago)

That's true.

On a separate note, Diarra has apparently been quoted saying that he doesn't think a deal to take him to Spurs looks likely.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Thursday, 25 August 2011 09:37 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, i'm not convinced there was any such deal.

Tbh, redknapp is involved here where he shouldn't be, muddying waters and publicising the problem. He should play modric if fit, stfu and let levy deal.

Levy has dealt with it, btw.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 09:43 (thirteen years ago)

Boris's riot money is going to be used to pay for an improved contract for Modric, apparently (at the insistence of the former residents of the flats above the carpet shop).

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Thursday, 25 August 2011 09:55 (thirteen years ago)

i don't believe that'll change anything for modric. Only a realisation/acceptance that levy dngaf about what he wants is gonna make this settle. And harry is fucking that up.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 10:00 (thirteen years ago)

Is a bitter, resentful, demotivated Modric + the message Spurs isn't a selling club worth more than 30m + Yossi?

Levy's approach works if Modric isn't going to sulk for the rest of the year. I hope Luka has the professionalism Levy surely must assume he does.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Thursday, 25 August 2011 10:20 (thirteen years ago)

that's the key.

I was all for this stance with berbatov, and i've more faith in modric than i did him.

Once the window closes, it's down to the player.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 10:30 (thirteen years ago)

If Modric sulks and underperforms for a year that's potentially a massive problem for his career, so if he knows what's good for him he won't do that.

In the back of every Spurs fan's mind throughout the Modric saga has been that if/when Levy cracks and sells then that opens the door to losing Bale sooner rather than later.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 August 2011 10:34 (thirteen years ago)

i'm more worried about us getting 30m and spending it on an AM we don't need.

If Modric goes, let it be today, let the money go on a CB and a physically proficient CF

Cheeky 20m bid for Carroll imo, or test Wolves for Doyle.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 10:44 (thirteen years ago)

Or is Levy just going to wait till the last day of the window to get another £5m out of Chelsea?

Would you really want Doyle? Is he even as good as the forwards you've got, let alone better?

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Thursday, 25 August 2011 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

i) i hope not, that he'll have learned from berbatov

ii) 'better' at occupying centre halves, creating space for midfielders, heading, hold up play- things we badly need and have badly needed since berbatov left.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 11:39 (thirteen years ago)

Not great at actually scoring goals though.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 August 2011 11:39 (thirteen years ago)

Would a cheeky bid for Berbatov be feasible?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 August 2011 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

PSG were told he's not for sale. Would be good to have him back though.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

I'm thinking Utd trump Chelsea with a Berba + £10m offer for Modric maybe. They surely will sell him. You probably couldn't pay his wages though.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

70 goals in 216 league games (202 starts). PL is 15 in 62 for Wolves (60 starts).

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

not on his wages

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

doyle's goalscoring probably more reliable than crouch's, tbh. And does all that other stuff that peetah peetah doesnt bother to

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

berbatov and 10m can fuck right off, wages or otherwise

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

Bet Doyle gets goals at a big team

LocalGarda, Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

i think so, yeah. He'd get on the end of crosses, and he'd work centre halves a bit. We're missing that.

Well, jermaine, gawd bless im, he's avin a go at working the centre alves, but for sam reeson it's not workin aaaht for the little fella

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

Might be interesting to see how well Kane gets on tonight, even if it is against a weakened Hearts team. How highly rated is he?

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

"He's less rubbish than Crouch" isn't really going to sell any striker to me right now. I can see why someone like Doyle would get goals with better service and he had that one really good season with Reading but I dunno, what's his conversion rate like with the chances he does get?

Premiership has quite a long history of prolific strikers in otherwise limited teams, not sure I'm really buying this "he'd score more at a big club!" line.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

It'll be interesting to see how many players I know in the Hearts/Spurs game tonight. Both teams seem to be scrabbling around to find their least important players just to get the tie out of the way. Can still see 2nd/3rd/4th string Hearts taking a tanking from 5th string Spurs though. Dunno what the record defeat is for a Scottish club in Europe over two legs (Juve 8-1 Rangers maybe?) but there's a good chance it'll be broken tonight.

Um yeah, hi, that's (onimo), Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

bentley hat-trick

Matt, that's a logical point yeah. I'll just rep for doyle as one of the guys that would do the job, given the chance. I'll say the same for Pav, but 'the chance' in his case is one start in a row before arry decides he don't fancy it.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

Fergie talking to BBC again. See ya, Mike. It's been fun.

Chris, Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

Rangers famously lost 12-1 to Eintracht Frankfurt back in the early days (when British football was still the envy of the world, etc)

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

ari sez e moight ploy looka tnite if eeze fit

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

Ah no, it was 12-4. Bloody hell, that was in the 1960 semis before Eintracht took a beating in the final.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

I'm browsing through a Wee Red Book (1999-2000 edition) looking at Scots in Europe results. Just discovered Aberdeen beat Sion (Celtic's opponents tonight) 11-1 on their way to winning the Cup Winners Cup in '83.

(this isn't the thread for this, sorry)

Um yeah, hi, that's (onimo), Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

Patrick said City is the place to be because they are the club of the future and they want to win everything.

Patrick said City is the place to be because they are the club of the future and they want to win everything.

Patrick said City is the place to be because they are the club of the future and they want to win everything.

Patrick said City is the place to be because they are the club of the future and they want to win everything.

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, I don't look forward to seeing Fergie interviews, but I do look forward to not seeing Phelan interviews.

the pinefox, Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

Quite looking forward to him laying the smackdown on Man City a few times.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

going to WHL tonight to eat prawn sandwiches and watch footie.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

he will be more than a phelan in some respects, though conceivably less noble and implable than his erstwhile deputy

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

If Modric plays tonight, he's staying at Spurs; if he doesn't, he's going to Chelsea. Isn't it that simple?

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Thursday, 25 August 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

It's not quite that simple - he's apparently got an injury as well (maybe fictional) and we have a 5-0 headstart and don't really need to bother with him.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 August 2011 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

fuck that noise. Sub him after a minute, let him kiss my arse on the way off.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

Thought 'Arry was insisting he would play. Still not sure how this will work out, but if he doesn't play it surely goes down to DEADLINE DAY. Clear the decks for it, there's no other business outstanding.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Thursday, 25 August 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

Might Coulibaly play at forward tonight? Would like to see him.

boxall, Thursday, 25 August 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

yeah there's no argument whatsoever not to play him if even reasonably fit

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal have reportedly expressed an interest in Kaka’s services, but Wenger was hoping to take him on loan. Real have refused the offer, and want to sell Kaka to the Gunners for no less than £17.5 million.

I know he got fat and all but this is a fucking bargain non? How could you not try and buy KAKA for that? If you could get him fit and playing regularly at any of the top 6, you'd win the league imo.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 25 August 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

Coulibaly is not on spurs uefa squad list. not sure if it has to do with him impending italian citizenship, or if he's just too young.
xxp

mizzell, Thursday, 25 August 2011 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

Wages... xpost

Number None, Thursday, 25 August 2011 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

hmmm would have expected coulibaly to have been in that squad tbh

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

£17.5m for a fat overpaid 29-year old who is about 2yrs past his best at least does not strike me as a bargain.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

Rather him than Joe Cole, if you're in the market for a fat, overpaid 29 year-old at least two years past his best, though.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

this is kaka not jenas ffs. He'll be back in shape with games

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

He may be past his best but I really don't think he's fat.

boxall, Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

modric out kaka in doyle in cl spot nailed imo

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

This is him in a friendly yesterday: http://www.kakafans.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/galatasaray6.jpg

boxall, Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

that photo was just an unflattering angle anyway

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

svelte

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

i'd hit it

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

He's about as svelte as Lampard.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

what's your point

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.kakafans.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/chinaIV4.jpg

boxall, Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

he has had 2 yrs of injury problems but he's fucking kaka

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

dunno if I'd invest £17.5m plus £millions a year on a guy that goes all out Ricky Hatton when he's not playing tbh

Um yeah, hi, that's (onimo), Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

then again, £17.5m in English Premier League money = "promising, if occasionally agricultural, centre half" so fuck it you may as well get a Kaka for that

Um yeah, hi, that's (onimo), Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

yeah he's neither past his prime (ok maybe slightly but he's a ballon d'or winner ffs cut him some slack) nor fat. if wenger claims to be willing to spend €40m on a "quality player" kaka should be worth half a carroll

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

but if Arsenal were unwilling to pay Nasri 120,000 a week, why would they be willing to pay Kaka 180,000?

Number None, Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

I was just eyerolling at the notion that £17.5m for a 29 year old represents "a bargain" even outside the bizarro world where people judge value for money by its relationship to Andy Carroll's transfer fee.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

Kaka will not do well in a London club. Manchester, perhaps. There aren't any good restaurants in Manchester.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

saved the Doyle convo for next May. y're not having him btw

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 August 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

I was just eyerolling at the notion that £17.5m for a 29 year old represents "a bargain" even outside the bizarro world where people judge value for money by its relationship to Andy Carroll's transfer fee.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 August 2011 16:39 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wld p much pay for itself in sponsership, advertising and shirt sales etc.? and that 29 year old was once judged best footballer in the world. basically if you cant spend 17m on kaka then why bother getting involved in transfers at all. (lol has 'sell on value' really become the be all and end all)

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 25 August 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

Kaka's so taken for granted - amazing player. He still has it too, injuries permitting, he was fine in the last world cup (albeit not in the best form or fitness admittedly). Go for it Arsene.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 August 2011 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

uhm madrid aren't going to sell him for that

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 25 August 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

sold sneijder for less

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 25 August 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

they bought sneidjder for a lot less, he wasn't a perez vanity purchase, and they will be very mindful of the sneijder precedent

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 25 August 2011 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

Did the Madrid no.10 shirt really go Figo>Robinho>Sneijder>Lass Diarra?

boxall, Thursday, 25 August 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

kaka doesn't have it anymore, off the pace and doesn't have the ~glide~ he had back when he was imperious

would probably still do OK but doubt he'd set the league alight

4chap (cozen), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

the fat's not a massive issue really but he def doesn't have the /it/ he once had

4chap (cozen), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

How long a bad period can a player have before it can safely be said that he is in permanent decline? I agree with cozen about the 'glide' no longer being there for kaka. Then again Raul went through about a season and a half at Madrid where, to me at least, he went from excellent, passsed decent, into poor, before turning it around and if not quite getting back to his imperious best still returned to being really good.

Rooney went around 10 months of being outright bad before returning to form. I'd argue that Ribiery had a pretty dramatic decline also before working his way back.

Obviously age will lead to decline but Rooney, Ribiery, and Kaka aren't exactly old. The obvious one atm is Torres. Is this what he is now? Or will he return to his LFC form?

pandemic, Friday, 26 August 2011 06:08 (thirteen years ago)

Gerrard

LocalGarda, Friday, 26 August 2011 06:34 (thirteen years ago)

God yeah. I think I probably underrated Gerrard for a while due to some pissy resentment on my part at how much Sky/MOTD etc over-praised him and seemed to believe that he WAS Liverpool. Now he is playing down to those expectations. He's obviously been one of our best players but in the last couple of seasons it seems like such a hard job to actually fit him into the team in a position he likes. And the amount of time he gives the ball away will never cease to infuriate me.

pandemic, Friday, 26 August 2011 06:56 (thirteen years ago)

Adebayor! Adebayooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrr! He's back on TV! On ITV4!

James Mitchell, Friday, 26 August 2011 07:51 (thirteen years ago)

I think a lot of these come down to pace really. If a player's game is built around being quick, then when injuries or age take away the little burst that makes him quicker than average, he'd better have something else there to make up for it. Michael Owen didn't have that much more to him, but my guess is Kaka's got a lot more. Torres I don't know, I suspect he's lost just a tiny amount but that's where the killer edge is.

Ones that are clearly just form, like Rooney, are mystifying to me. If it were confidence I could understand that, but I don't think he ever lost that, even his first touch was shocking for a good while.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 26 August 2011 08:06 (thirteen years ago)

people seem incredibly eager to write gerrard off.

Michael B, Friday, 26 August 2011 08:44 (thirteen years ago)

6 years

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Friday, 26 August 2011 08:46 (thirteen years ago)

Gerrard has been badly managed for a long time maybe - after years of being Mr Liverpool who will save them for disaster he seems to think he deserves a free role whatever happens, and he just doesn't seem like a team player any more.

Obviously that won't happen when he gets back because if you were to give any player a free role at Liverpool now that would be Suarez and Gerrard, but fuck that noise generally.

Matt DC, Friday, 26 August 2011 09:03 (thirteen years ago)

Also players just get complacent or their head goes into the wrong place - Rooney and Ribery for pretty obvious reasons. Actually I've not seen Ribery play for a while but he's pretty much never justified his hype when I have.

Rooney was a perfect of storm of factors last season I reckon - coming back from injury, shit World Cup behind him, self-imposed personal issues, protracted transfer saga etc. His head was never going to be right, he clearly wasn't concentrating anywhere near 100% on his game. That would be a worry long-term for anyone managing Rooney.

Matt DC, Friday, 26 August 2011 09:07 (thirteen years ago)

free roles are for teams chasing 10th with one talismanic attacking talent.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Friday, 26 August 2011 09:08 (thirteen years ago)

holla

r|t|c, Friday, 26 August 2011 09:11 (thirteen years ago)

been there, tbf, been there

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Friday, 26 August 2011 09:16 (thirteen years ago)

Sometimes I still miss Ginola.

Matt DC, Friday, 26 August 2011 09:18 (thirteen years ago)

btw 'Arry in the Guardian this morning reckons Modric is staying fer sure and that's the end of that. AVB on Sky said the difference btw Chelsea's offer and what Spurs will accept was too wide for the deal to happen.

pandemic, Friday, 26 August 2011 09:20 (thirteen years ago)

Ginola? I was thinking Steffen Freund.

pandemic, Friday, 26 August 2011 09:21 (thirteen years ago)

he made my top 22 ballot for that thing sam never did

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Friday, 26 August 2011 09:21 (thirteen years ago)

Harry's been smacked down good & proper there. Professing self delighted, no mention of the stronger team he was planning to build, etc.

Is that the end of that then?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 26 August 2011 09:25 (thirteen years ago)

It's probably not the end of that. Hope Modric actually picks himself up and doesn't piss and whine and play like shit for an entire season.

Adebayor signing on its own should make a massive difference. Anyone know anything about Iago Falque?

Matt DC, Friday, 26 August 2011 09:27 (thirteen years ago)

Delighted that Levy's ad a word. Took too long tbh.

Modric will play and will be fine.

Adebayor-Crouch switch worth minimum twelve league goals between scored and play around the box.

Fourth.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Friday, 26 August 2011 09:33 (thirteen years ago)

Only fourth? You ought to be better off than the time you did get fourth.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 26 August 2011 09:36 (thirteen years ago)

City and United both better than that season though, and I don't like our chances of finshing about Chelsea.

Matt DC, Friday, 26 August 2011 09:51 (thirteen years ago)

I mean City and Liverpool. United are irrelevant to how well we do, especially as they always beat us whatever happens.

Matt DC, Friday, 26 August 2011 09:53 (thirteen years ago)

we're ahead of lfc now imo, but it's close.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Friday, 26 August 2011 10:08 (thirteen years ago)

Not a hope in hell spurs finish 4th.

LocalGarda, Friday, 26 August 2011 10:48 (thirteen years ago)

I get the feeling it's not a very happy ship at the moment, the look on Kranjcar's face last night just screamed "can I be bothered?"

Matt DC, Friday, 26 August 2011 10:56 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think that players like Kranjcar and Defoe (ie good enough to play a part if not first XI) are likely to be effectively motivated by an entire summer's worth of "We consider you to be deadwood and are trying to move you on" stories. That's before you consider what the Modric saga must be doing.

Matt DC, Friday, 26 August 2011 10:58 (thirteen years ago)

Kranjcar looked like Ashton Kutcher yesterday.

9th, and and an FA Cup qf this season I think, good old days :(

jel --, Friday, 26 August 2011 11:03 (thirteen years ago)

I think there'll be three fighting for 1st (City, Utd, Chelsea) and three fighting for 4th (Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal). Anyone's guess how each of those groups pans out.

Um yeah, hi, that's (onimo), Friday, 26 August 2011 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

Seems accurate.

Matt DC, Friday, 26 August 2011 11:07 (thirteen years ago)

idk there's a diffidence to chelsea and a cuntyness to liverpool that makes me think the latter will finish higher

r|t|c, Friday, 26 August 2011 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

This Charmless Man

Asked about his England contingent, Ferguson said: "It is fantastic. The FA may realise who has produced more players for their country than any club in the world.

"Maybe they will get some joy from it and realise how important we are to England instead of treating us like s***.

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Friday, 26 August 2011 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

re: iago - i believe he is the spiritual successor to quaresma in that he had oodles of talent but his mentality is so warped that he'll never have a good run of games. or so has been the word on him for a while now.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Friday, 26 August 2011 11:21 (thirteen years ago)

Asked about his England contingent, Ferguson said: "It is fantastic. The FA may realise who has produced more players for their country than any club in the world.

"Maybe they will get some joy from it and realise how important we are to England instead of treating us like s***.

fergie is west ham boss?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Friday, 26 August 2011 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

the real motivator for most of these guys, once transfer window shuts, is to be picked when they merit it. Can understand krancjar and pavlyuchenko being unhapoy, less so defoe or crouch. Modric dissatisfied for different reasons, but though i love him v much i have to say that a couple more goals/kilkers through balls against the limited opposition we faltered against last year might have had him still playing in a cl team.

Talk of offering him a new contract is nonsense. He doesn't want to ad won't be here in two years, so wtf give him a pay rise in the interim?

This is based on the premise that i don't think not moving will affect his performances over the season.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Friday, 26 August 2011 11:27 (thirteen years ago)

actually

Club providing the most England internationals in total [42]
Aston Villa, 72 (as of 9 February 2011)

from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_national_football_team_records

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Friday, 26 August 2011 11:27 (thirteen years ago)

West Ham aren't in the top ten as far as I recall

MPx4A, Friday, 26 August 2011 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

trained youths or what?

Since when?

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Friday, 26 August 2011 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

Most appearances without ever playing at the European Championship finals [22]
Rio Ferdinand, 81, 15 November 1997 – 4 June 2011

blimey

r|t|c, Friday, 26 August 2011 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

I think it's "first capped while playing for that club."

Since ever.

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Friday, 26 August 2011 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

No fewer than 21 of Villa's 72 England internationals played just once for the national team during their time at the club, and 13 of these had only a single cap in their careers. In these statistical records, Scott Carson in 2007 also goes on to the record of Aston Villa players who have turned out for England, despite being on loan from Liverpool at the time.

r|t|c, Friday, 26 August 2011 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

hands off Carson

Ismael Klata, Friday, 26 August 2011 11:51 (thirteen years ago)

that's how he appears in the records too

Ismael Klata, Friday, 26 August 2011 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

I find it slightly amusing that everyone on here rates Rooney again.

Number None, Friday, 26 August 2011 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

hands off Carson

Not sure how you can claim him for Arsenal

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 26 August 2011 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

everyone?

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Friday, 26 August 2011 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

Well, give it another couple of months

Number None, Friday, 26 August 2011 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

no....

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 26 August 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

I don't expect miracles

Number None, Friday, 26 August 2011 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

he has a team of multimillion pound footballers set up around him, and when he's not fat and wants to play he's effective.

He's more often fat and off form, tbh

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Friday, 26 August 2011 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

Grim news

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 26 August 2011 12:25 (thirteen years ago)

Lovely stuff from purple nose there, what an asset to the game.

LocalGarda, Friday, 26 August 2011 12:25 (thirteen years ago)

Bruce ups bid to 12m after Gibson injury

LocalGarda, Friday, 26 August 2011 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

Gibson's move to Sunderland broke down cos of his wage demands, which boggles my mind frankly

Number None, Friday, 26 August 2011 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

Bruce warns Ferguson he won't be drawn into a cut price deal for 20m rated Gibson, adding that if a bidding war for the injured Subbuteo accessory begins he will blow all rivals out of the water.

LocalGarda, Friday, 26 August 2011 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

extremely punchable face, has gibson

r|t|c, Friday, 26 August 2011 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

The fact that he's called DarrON has always been the thing that's irritated me most. That, and the whole being terrible at football aspect.

Number None, Friday, 26 August 2011 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

great cunter tho

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Friday, 26 August 2011 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

http://rudsoccers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/ddd2.jpg

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 26 August 2011 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

Can't even remember the last time he proper cunted one, though he was good in the second leg against Schalke

Number None, Friday, 26 August 2011 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.infamouskidd.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/the-shining-jack-maze.jpg

pig nose is the most irritating thing, i feel.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 26 August 2011 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

I get the feeling it's not a very happy ship at the moment, the look on Kranjcar's face last night just screamed "can I be bothered?"
― Matt DC, Friday, 26 August 2011 10:56 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

playing in a game that's already 5-0 up on aggregate?

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Friday, 26 August 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/aug/26/samir-nasri-manchester-city-cringe/print

pretty good

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 00:53 (thirteen years ago)

Have recently finished dreaming that Villa go one up in the first minute and Wolves are 4-1 up by half time

MPx4A, Saturday, 27 August 2011 10:41 (thirteen years ago)

Villa after Hutton? Darragh will be pleased, I think.

pandemic, Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan vs QPR seems to be a 12.45 ko for some reason?

pandemic, Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:08 (thirteen years ago)

Hell of a lot of empty seats at Villa Park for a local derby.

pandemic, Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:11 (thirteen years ago)

Ward just stood up a lovely ball to the far post, Hunt with a meh header.

pandemic, Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:25 (thirteen years ago)

wolves look ok, bit wasteful upfront maybe. Not very intense.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:25 (thirteen years ago)

Thought heskey had scored there. i know.

pandemic, Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

No, not living up to the stereotypes of a derby, feisty, no time on the ball etc

pandemic, Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

bugger, barton not signed in time for debut after all (now next monday vs newcastle - wooosh) plus bothroyd and campbell STILL laid off. orr's injury means this xi's even worse than the one that played everton - surely we can't get away with this again.

quite fancy big pat for a lolgoal though.

r|t|c, Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

oh fucking hell it is way too early for psycho columbian commentary

r|t|c, Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:39 (thirteen years ago)

stearman isn't very good

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

ooh tarbs hits the post with a trademark curler

wigan look v tricky - moses especially so - and already 10x better than everton, but we look less overawed as well and their defence is predictably flimsy

lots of space in this game

r|t|c, Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

Just as well there's time on the ball, noone here has a first touch or is capable of delivering a pass that doesn't need one.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:47 (thirteen years ago)

everton.

Still think they're top eight. But they're not, are they?

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

Has Darren Bent touched the ball this half? I genuinely think he hasn't. Not once.

pandemic, Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

xp the squad is top 8 but moyes' excuses are champs league

r|t|c, Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

not his game

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

WOO! Brighton vs LFC in Carling Cup!! I may get to see Lucas in the flesh.*wipes tear from eye*

pandemic, Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

joey barton appears to be in the crowd with henry holland

i could be wrong

r|t|c, Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs away at Stoke btw Darragh. Do you guys care about CCup anymore?

pandemic, Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

haha jordi gomez pulled adel's shorts down and the columbian commentators were all WAHEYYY NALGAS

r|t|c, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

Park Chu-Young apparently having medical at Arsenal. Plays for Monaco, maybe Jibe can give us the low down. On the plus side he's not a teenager.

pandemic, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

they also seem to referring to tommy smith as simply "mr smith"

r|t|c, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

WOO! Brighton vs LFC in Carling Cup!! I may get to see Lucas in the flesh.*wipes tear from eye*

Can you take a photo for me, please?

Chris, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

bollox, golazo from di santo after crap marking

r|t|c, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

Why is Wigan - QPR an early kick-off?

Chris, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

wigan warriors are in the rugby league challenge cup final at 3

r|t|c, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

Villa Wolves got good , there's suddenly space in the middle and just enough ineptitude in possession to set up constant chances to counter-attack

MPx4A, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

Ivanhoe having a stormer, frankly

MPx4A, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:20 (thirteen years ago)

Delph looks good positionally, but wastes the ball too often. Still made a couple of nice interceptions. Is Rio Coker still there? Or am I 2 years behind the times?

pandemic, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:22 (thirteen years ago)

Reo left on a free and signed for Bolton recently

Delph is rash and wants to run the game and kick people all the time, but has a strange Bambi-with-the-ball-glued-to-his-foot ball retention ability and can beat a man; glad he's getting a run

MPx4A, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

Chris Herd's lung-bursting endeavour has been very gradually trumping his obvious total ineptitude over the course of the match, it's heartwarming

MPx4A, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

OTM

pandemic, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:37 (thirteen years ago)

He's playing centre forward more than Bent is at times

pandemic, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

wigan warriors are in the rugby league challenge cup final at 3

Ahh yes, remember hearing about that yesterday actually.

Chris, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

back to knackered inept shit, anyone getting a second wind will win it

MPx4A, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

attendance 30,076. Villa capacity must be 40,000+ right?

pandemic, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

late doyle winner imo

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

43. Alex McLeish is our manager.

MPx4A, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

that's a penalty imo

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

luke young's solid enough right?

r|t|c, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, good signing

MPx4A, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

di santo's knocked in another classy one, fair enuff really

r|t|c, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

Bolton Wanderers have stepped in to sign Dedryck Boyata on a season-long loan from Manchester City.

this 'bolton as a finishing club for potential superstars' myth has struck again. trrfc signing imo even if they need one of city's many many strikers more.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 27 August 2011 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

Dunno if there is such a myth. Coyle just seems to be a shrewd negotiator.

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

wd've took that point before kick off and def after 60 mins so fair enough. title challenge still on.

see y'all in a week or so.

Frogbs (Pray Like Aretha Franklin) (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 August 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

fuck it i forgot i came up with a refinement to my dn in the pub

Frogbs (Pray Like Aretha Franklin (in Whiteface)) (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 August 2011 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

i used to have Chris Herd on loan in a FM2010 team btw, swear he played midfield

Frogbs (Pray Like Aretha Franklin (in Whiteface)) (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 August 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

attendance 30,076. Villa capacity must be 40,000+ right?

Wonder how much the tickets were. Even so, you'd think they'd be able to fill the stadium for a local derby?

Chris, Saturday, 27 August 2011 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

£20-40. Wolves isn't a "big" game for Villa, they've had three home games in a week and Alex McLeish is their manager. A lot of people probably just didn't renew their season ticket.

MPx4A, Saturday, 27 August 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

I've always found lunchtime games anywhere the easiest to get tickets for fwiw. I've also seen a few biggish games at villa and never had particular problem getting a ticket, so I don't think this is a new thing.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 27 August 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, the attendances dropped off when we were still good, I guess money is a pretty big factor

when I still had a season ticket we stopped selling out derbies/ top 4 games in O'Neill's last couple of seasons

MPx4A, Saturday, 27 August 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

hilarios

god hates FAQs (cozen), Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

fuuuuck, drogba just got knocked the fuck out

god hates FAQs (cozen), Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

BBC min by min says he got punched in the head by the Norwich keeper. Is that not a penalty then?

pandemic, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

he was offside before the punch

out cold before he hit the ground and fell hard

god hates FAQs (cozen), Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

Guardian's MBM is funny, the only updates are from emailing readers b/c Rob Smyth is apparently watching a rugby match and nothing else. ""Ouch!" says Jonny Mac. "Don't know if you saw that but Drogba ..."

Swansea-Sunderland has been OK. Now Cattermole off, Wickham on, should get better.

boxall, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

That was a horrible landing for Drogba, we (Norwich) let off lightly by the offside call...

CraigG, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

Norwich have just missed a great chance to talk the lead at Chelsea. It sounds like they have been the better side today.

Quality.

boxall, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

Park Chu-Young apparently having medical at Arsenal. Plays for Monaco, maybe Jibe can give us the low down. On the plus side he's not a teenager.

― pandemic, Saturday, August 27, 2011 12:05 PM (3 hours ago)

proved a solid backup and impact sub when i took him with me from rangers to man utd in football manager 2006, good signing imo.

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/oddballs/873689-park-chu-young-on-verge-of-arsenal-transfer-after-going-awol-from-lille

The Monaco striker had agreed terms to join the French champions and the deal had progressed as far as him travelling to Lille on Friday, with a view to completing the move on Saturday.

However, when club officials went to collect the South Korea international from the hotel for his medical, they found the room empty.

if he can bring a few lols like this then that would be appreciated by all too, i'm sure.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

Slightly biased, but I think Norwich have been the better side. Would be happy to take a point, but there's definitely a possibility of 3. Of course, Chelsea being Chelsea could probably stick one in any moment.

CraigG, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

fuck Chelsea penalty, more Ruddy dodginess

CraigG, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Keeper had to get there

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

Ruddy sending off harsh

Gukbe, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

Fair enough imo

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

It wouldn't have been so bad if Ruddy hadn't been sent off - I have confidence in him as a keeper. Definitely sunk now, reckon it'll be 3 or 4-1, with all those extra minutes from Drogba getting hobbled.

CraigG, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

Torres should have been sent off before that.

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

Blackburn lol

pandemic, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

xpost - agreed!

CraigG, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

What did Torres do? I glanced away but i heard the commentators saying something about it

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

cynical challenge that should have been a second yellow.

Gukbe, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

Miss of the season so far

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

jesus morrison is so slow

god hates FAQs (cozen), Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

11mins of stoppage time is going to drag...

CraigG, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

Blackburn lol

― pandemic, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:44 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

r|t|c, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

In other news, QPR really not taking to the premier league, eh? Expected more from them tbh.

CraigG, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

Mata scores, he's looked good

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

yeah mata looked good; lukaku is huge

god hates FAQs (cozen), Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

lukaku looked pissed mata didn't pass there

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

lukaku is probably the largest player in the league or thereabouts

will make a great big if he ever gets slow and inept

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

Here's the Drogba incident. Pretty brutal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdM-X8NW9JU

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

jesus

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

ouch

original impact doesn't even look that much

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

no it's more the fall really

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

could have been worse if he had fallen differently

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/4/6/2b91be81-2add-4252-92ee-7e4df6d50c5b.jpg

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

the way he bounces listlessly off the ground is disquieting

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

lukaku is probably the largest player in the league or thereabouts
On FM10 he was the heaviest player in Serie A when I had him at Juve.

pandemic, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

rip christian vieri

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

ha!

pandemic, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

live it looked like drogba was out before he hit the ground, so obv hit hard

god hates FAQs (cozen), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

Was going to mention Stefan Maierhofer but I guess he's never coming back.

boxall, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

@BluesChronicle Dan Levene
Word on Drogba is that he has only just come around in the medical room after being out cold for almost half an hour. More when I get it.

yeesh

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

wow

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

nice one, liverpool bolton is on tv

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

incredible effort from downing leads to goal for henderson

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

That ball from Suarez...

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

suarez peach cross outside of boot from left downing volleys across robinson good save kuyt chases and passes inside for henderson to finish well high into net

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

great move from bolton leads to good volley from petrov back post, well saved. good stuff since i turned on five mins ago

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

adam really is gonna be the placeholder for gerrard huh, decent highlights reel obscuring a pass completion rate of 50% and 5 indulgent 40 yard punts a match

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

joe cole tells ray wilkins that suarez is as good as any centre forward he's ever played with

no word on whether or not suarez reckons joe as good as messy as yet

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

The Suarez/Downing combo is looking really good tho

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

suarez always makes two runs, one for the defender and one for himself

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

someone please decipher that piece of wilsdom for me

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, i've been trying to figure that one out since he said it

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe he means a run to pull the defender out of position and then changing direction to get into space. Dunno

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

that's just 'a run' imo

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

wilsdom would have that as 'a poor miss' i dunno, nice to see him try the chip imo

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

Wilkins sees things differently from us mere mortals

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

I: Thou shalt stay on thine feet

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

i gotta say

lucas is fukn boss out there atm

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

that really was an incredible save from jussi

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

II: Thou shalt enjoy the ball and have fun with it

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

Nile Ranger has been arrested after a man was left unconscious after he was attacked outside a pub

The victim, 33, was found outside Cosy Joes, in the Groat Market in Newcastle, with a suspected broken jaw.

Newcastle striker Ranger, 20, who moved to St James' Park after he was released by Southampton three years ago, was later arrested on suspicion of assault, according to the BBC.

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

good times to be a liv fan

god hates FAQs (cozen), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

serious stuff there alright, should be more than 1 up though

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

Some great stuff there, but a little concerned that we don't seem to be able to take the sting out the game and play keep ball for a sustained period of time. If we're not playing at 100mph then we struggle to control the game.

Chris, Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks for reminding us that you didn't have to pay for your ticket, Redknapp.

Chris, Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, you want to be putting games out of sight when you're playing that well imo

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

suarez is so good

god hates FAQs (cozen), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

hmmm

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

think ref has been exceptional on the big calls

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool defender Glen Johnson on Twitter: "Good half lads. Same again please!"

colidog56 on Twitter: "I detest football and don't understand twitter. I should have gone to the shops."

Richard from Maidstone via text: "I'm sure if you stuck a moustache on Suarez and squinted slightly you would see he is a ringer for Freddie Mecury."

1825: Right, last chance. Today, anyway. Tweet the commentary via the hashtag #BBCFootball, Tweet me @sampatricklyon or text in via 81111 (UK). No excuses.

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

srktl

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

zac knight and good luck

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

He would like to buy a vowel.

arch midwestern housewife named (Laurel), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

HEY LAUREL

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

wait did i miss a goal

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

this is grim.

Gukbe, Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

HEY D

arch midwestern housewife named (Laurel), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

tbf gukbe, like us at old trafford the other night, nobody's gonna judge bolton for being overpowered at anfield. lfc looking very powerful

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

laurel have you been lurking since the world cup or are you just housebound through weather or what

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

I lurk from time to time, looking for insights about plays or calls that I didn't grok. Happen to be home today because highland gig canceled for weather!

arch midwestern housewife named (Laurel), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

was tuncay unsettled at wolfsburg or what?

god hates FAQs (cozen), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

Everyone is unsettled at Wolfsburg.

boxall, Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

Surely you bring the big lad on to get himself a couple of goals now?

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

iirc actual scotch highland events tend to go ahead through inclement weather because well

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah but with all transit services out, we can't even get together to get there. It's over an hour away by car and there won't be any trains. The event will still go but we won't.

arch midwestern housewife named (Laurel), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

fair enough

ok let's recap, what do you know about jermaine jenas

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

shouldn't this newfound hype for good old british up and at them liverpool be tempered by a reminder that are still worse than they were in 2009 while three teams are even better

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

g'damn drogba got fucked up

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

yeah really

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

still worse than they were in 2009

son, i watched liverpool in 2009

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea were not that impressive today. Mata/Modric could change things though

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

The concept of "presence-in-absence", "signifying absences", what have you [Started by Dean Gaffney's December (history mayne) in December 2009, last updated 5 minutes ago by jed_ on I Love Everything] 1 new answer

http://www.footballpunch.com/userfiles/2011/2/15/images/Andy-Carroll-to-be-fit-in-t.jpg

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

take your filthy backslash off my luka, sir

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

We're back :)

LocalGarda, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

BACKPASS

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

suarez is an ugly dude

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

I like this hunger about them, being that irate about the backpass

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

so deems u will remember when they had torres, gerrard, mascherano and alonso rather than suarez and a load of martin o'neill players

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

BACKPASSSSSS

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

He's really not, he just screams a lot (xp to J0rdan)

boxall, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

so deems u will remember when they had torres, gerrard, mascherano and alonso ...........
― diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan)

The concept of "presence-in-absence", "signifying absences", what have you [Started by Dean Gaffney's December (history mayne) in December 2009, last updated 5 minutes ago by jed_ on I Love Everything] 1 new answer

http://inter.theoffside.com/files/2010/12/Rafa-out.jpg

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

I am going to enjoy just feeling happy about liverpool tonight.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

enrique v good addition based on today's performance

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

deems u have an almost markersian facility w/ image posts

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

rafa >>>> dalglish

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

awkward little moment there when everyone but the linesman knew that agger was offside and he seemed kinda embarrassed to do anything with it

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

xp

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

great tackle robinson, must have hurt him not to get some ligament there

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

15 mins of carroll

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

anfield seems p convinced by henderson imo

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

how good is liverpool supposed to be this year?

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

the malign ponytail

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool would be expected to challenge for fourth along with spurs and maybe arsenal this season, j

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

but another three or four good wins and they'll prob be favourites to win the league

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

Enrique is brilliant, uses the ball so well. This 2009 rafa shit is nonsense. Rafa was also boss in 2010. We were in a court case vs bankruptcy a year ago, it's been good times since George and Tom fucked off, in the grand scheme. Now it's better times, and I say that still being cautious about this season.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

We didn't really know, they'd changed so much so quickly. Looks like they're better than anyone thought though, in a pleasing change from the norm.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

heh i knew we'd get ronan out of that contented mien without much pushing

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

rafa <<<<<< clarke

god hates FAQs (cozen), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

the ownership is rather better but the team is worse

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:14 (thirteen years ago)

that was the closest they have come to climbing back onto their perch for twenty years

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:14 (thirteen years ago)

i've a couch that's less faux than that 2009 'challenge' tbh

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

carroll looks mentally and physically off the pace

god hates FAQs (cozen), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

i think he's both atm, but hope dalglish sticks with him

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago)

not just cos he's my talismanic striker in the fantasy team i don't get to change til jan

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago)

A draw with Sunderland, two late goals against 10-man Arsenal, now Bolton, don't think they've passed any serious tests yet.

boxall, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:17 (thirteen years ago)

deems i know you have a soft spot for their shiny new EDL feathers but the perch just got raised and destroying bolton at home is really not very far up the tree

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

top 4 arsenal, sunderland will ave a go this year, bolton well its never an easy game against bolton

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

I mean, I thought it was gonna be tough to win the league this year

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

Ffs gutted about that

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

i'm not saying, tbf, that liverpool are gonna title challenge this year. they're back where they belong, scrapping for fourth, that's all

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

Dalglish out

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

xp lol, yeah

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

Most muted celebration of all time?

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

IK sees what i'm doing

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez sulking like a 15-yr-old.

arch midwestern housewife named (Laurel), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

carragher possibly worse than he was in 2009

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

yeah back where they belonged before rafa made them serial champions league semifinalists and occasionally semiplausible contenders

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

carragher finally found out after 13 chancer years

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago)

nakh am i trolling you or are you trolling me i don't want to say the wrong thing in front of the marks

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago)

also at a pretty significant outlay only for throughbred british shite rather than randomly accumulated rafa trash

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago)

they were not even semiplausible obv, lest i ever be accused of lettign that stand

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

Destroying Bolton at home is up the tree if you're defending rafa. 10 draws in 08/09. Dmac otm about my earlier happy posts.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

random accumulation, selection, communication and intimidation v much the benitez methodology tbf

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

they were about 5/2 to win the league in like april 2k9 iirc

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

torres should probably just retire right

gone at 27, like a female tennis player

god hates FAQs (cozen), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i know, i only got evens off three friends when i slapped down 150 quid on them not doing it, what a swizz

xp to ronan- yeah, any team chasing that 4th spot this year (or higher, tbh) can't sniff at a good home win against bolton.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

torres and carroll to end up reviving their shattered careers under warnock at qpr in a run to 5th after some transfer window magic

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno what to think about Torres anymore. Pete's always got an interesting take on him, if it were up to me it'd be too depressing for words.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

last week it was being mildly optimistic about defeating demoralized competition for fourth which was fair enough

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

Bloody hell Carra. Predicted 3-0 on another forum and was looking forward to an Enrique clean sheet for my fantasy team.

Chris, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

say it chris

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

SAY IT

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

(whispers... what do you want me to say?)

Chris, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

torres looked pretty good vs stoke, not terrible vs west brom

he can probably get back to being one of the best centre forwards in the league as the team is being modfified to better suit his talents rather than those of drogba

don't think he will ever be quite as lethal as was at old trafford in rafa's golden season

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

redknapp jr wouldn't swap suarez for anyone- aguero, rooney, anyone

http://invasives.biodiversityireland.ie/wp-content/themes/invasives/gfx/Spot-the-Alien-Logo.png

xp chris say carra out!

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool make Ferguson suffer

Phil McNulty | 20:54 UK time, Saturday, 14 March 2009

Sir Alex Ferguson was like an old streetfighter lying bloodied and beaten in his corner - defiantly insisting his victorious opponent had never laid a glove on him.

Ferguson was selling the message that Manchester United were the better side against Liverpool at Old Trafford. No-one was buying that when a 4-1 scoreline in favour of the visitors slightly contradicted his argument.

Liverpool's win was as impressive as it was deserved and the even the lavish victory margin provoked few arguments, despite Ferguson's protestations.

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

time was deems, time was....

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

xposts. lol I've said before that I think it's time to start phasing him out, but do I really wanna demand he be banished to the stands for that one little (ok it was pretty big I suppose) fuck up?

Chris, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

xp the sun will even shine on a dog's arse once or twice in a day

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

coates will provide a bit of a challenge to him, you'd imagine.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

the sun shone on andrea dossena that day as the portly peninsular wingback lobbed over the haplessly despairingly stranded van der sar

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

fuck it CARRA OUT ;)

Chris, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

many were heard to say that vidic was literally raped by gerrard and torres

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

Here this is crap. Different team and different boss. Don't need to be told about 09 or rafa, i watched it all, and he caused all those players to leave anyway. This board is either 09 didn't exist or let's lament the now far enough away 09 Liverpool. And it's a season after they finished sixth with a manager change in January. Plus there's no "hype" it's just people saying they played well, in third game of season.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

We are gonna win the league though, Ronan.

Chris, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago)

Just playin'.

Chris, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

never mind nakh, i just copped that we've both been trolling ronan :)

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

nah the liverpool hype cycle is drawing warm water atm, it will be pretty huge by the time they are 2nd in october and the title is almost theirs, then it will somehow dissipate before making landfall

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

I take it it won't be necessary to post the Scouse Boom-Bust Cycle?

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

Irrelevant cheap shot. They beat man u 3-1 in January too btw, rafa was bossing football focus then.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

Cheap shots galore now, there's no hype cycle, and they obv haven't beaten man u anytime recently or even post rafa...

LocalGarda, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

with ronan on this one tbh, dalglish liverpool are looking pretty good, with a more substantial squad to call on than the last few anagers have had. no big deal to say it.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

Fair enough, the Liverpool fans on here are a sensible bunch anyway

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

stand down son

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

stand down

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

Right now i'm just trying to figure out the complex laptop/tv juggling that'll be required to watch Donegal - Dublin and Utd - Arsenal tomorrow

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

Stoke and Spurs away next.

Chris, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

xp depends on if you like to hear yer grown men crying in a lifford accent or not i guess

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

I'm happy to be able to see Bolton on TV three weeks in a row, but did it have to be against Man City, Liverpool, and Man U?

Gukbe, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

i think so? why else would they televise bolton

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

the annual Bolton v Blackburn snoozefest, I guess

Gukbe, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

think the term you are looking for is THE SIZZLING LANCS HOTPOT OF REAL PROPER FOOTBALL FEST

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

Don't even like GAA tbh Darragh. I'm just a bandwagon jumper living off faded dreams of '92.

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

wasn't it...93?

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

i know the north is a strange and savage wilderness to you lot but that was Derry

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

i was a donegal supporter in 1992 fyi it was jsut a long time ago

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

was at the league final in 93, ticket signed by packie bonner and everything

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

replay or first game? I got go to the initial draw because my brother (who hated all sport) had gotten my dad's extra ticket to the All-Ireland. Bastard.

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

replay, was right in front of the dub sending off (was it carr?) and got four chocolate bars for a pound, don't remember much else tbh

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

shay given on the phone to the rte boys now, bet they mention tomorrow

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

Sorry for the digression folks. Off to fight some dubs now

Number None, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

donegal looking to get back on their perch tbh

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

BANG kenny drops the gaelic bomb

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

the module has been delivered: random other shit 11/12

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

brian mceniff will be taking sam home: GAA 2013

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

brian mceniff will be taking sam home: GAA 2013

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

i didn't think you could even do that tbh

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

formica's a diving cunt innee?

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

This John Henry interview is pretty good

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 27 August 2011 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

Dublin and Sam Maguire is Liverpool and the Prem was Ireland's rugby grand slam. If all three happen before I die I don't know what I'll do sportswise. Tho have at least seen Dublin win an All Ireland in person.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 27 August 2011 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

=would have worked better in that post

LocalGarda, Saturday, 27 August 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

nult can only have dreamed of mangling the adopted language like that

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

surely ireland in say the semi's of a euro or the quarters of a WC should be in there somewhere

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

Beidh a fhios ag baile atha cliath go cluiche deachair ata ann.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 27 August 2011 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

Ireland in a major tournament...

LocalGarda, Saturday, 27 August 2011 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

one mis-step at a time

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

Leon Britton, of Swansea: do my eyes deceive me, or is he actually quite good?

boxall, Saturday, 27 August 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

And if the latter, why has he spent an entire career in the Championship with some time even below that?

boxall, Saturday, 27 August 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

specsavers imo

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

jesus why wasn't i told abotu bosingwa's goal

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

surprised if grant holt isn't described as HE'S BIG, HE'S STRONG poss w/ ref to running the channels in the postgame montge

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

can't blame ivanovic for that tbh, stopped the ball getting to holt prob didn't expect hilario to clean him out of it on the edge of the box

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

lol at 'drogba has stayed down for a long time' when he is visibly unconscious

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

That was STEAMING bitchiness from Villas-Boas in the interview there.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 27 August 2011 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, but too sulky to be stylish imo

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

what he say

boxall, Saturday, 27 August 2011 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

It wasn't so much what he said ("Paul Lambert said he didn't think it was a penalty-" "Paul Lambert has a good imagination"), more his entire demeanour suggesting that he pisses Paul Lambert. This is not a man who will have any trouble being passive-agressive to Tony Pulis on a wet Wednesday night in Stoke.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

yeah

"Paul Lambert doesn't think that was a penalty"

"Pffffffffffffft" *flicks hair*

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

yah he's got great hair

boxall, Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

Did I hear wrong, or were the Everton fans doing "U! S! A!" chants after that penalty save?

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

This is not a man who will have any trouble being passive-agressive to Tony Pulis on a wet Wednesday night in Stoke.

― William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 27 August 2011 23:02 (16 minutes ago)

<3

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

it's not the passive aggression you want to be minding at stoke iirc

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago)

There's something very "opening act on the NME tour" about Joey and his friend, there, isn't there?

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

"Join Manish and the gang... you might even see a goalkeeper score, I am told."

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

all penos in the everton game are bullshit

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

aw franco di santo's motd interview was lovely. lucas leivapool was immense today btw. love love love him.

Chris, Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

lucas was great today

disanto's goals eh

watchin on delay tbh

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

di santo looks a bit like hoos imo

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

was never a penalty tbf to lambert. (im a norwich fan btw, so obviously biased).

Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

always

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:45 (thirteen years ago)

Read somewhere that only 3 of 9 penalties have been scored so far this season, that's remarkable if true.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:51 (thirteen years ago)

it is i tink

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:52 (thirteen years ago)

Actually, it's kind of what AVB said too:

AVB: "Paul Lambert has a good imagination. Fantastic. But we have 3 penalties in 2 games. Maybe he wants to show some imagination on the other three."

Legard: "You haven't seen the replay, or maybe you have, but Ramires seemed to be going down almost as he made contact with John Ruddy..."

(AVB curls his lip)

AVB: "Well, all our players go down. The others don't go down. All our players seem to go down, so it's good to be aware of this difference of opinion."

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 28 August 2011 03:25 (thirteen years ago)

also, tbf, prob the clearest penalty out of all given today.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 03:29 (thirteen years ago)

Butthurt sarcasm is the worst possible look for a football manager, have we learnt nothing from Rafa?

Chelsea have shades of Liverpool 08-09 about them, visibly unconvincing but can't lose, loads of late goals. They need an Ngog though.

Matt DC, Sunday, 28 August 2011 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

AVB excellent on MOTD y'day. Fuck Paul Lambert's trolling. Clear penalty.

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

Liked Dixon's break down on Downing's wingplay y'day.

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

Rafa would've attempted to seem indifferent but come off flustered, I thought Villas-Boas pulled it off better.

Fulham look awful in gold.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

Villas-Boas can pull off whatever he wants when he's so ~dreamy~.

Tottenham: Friedel, Corluka, Dawson, Kaboul, Assou-Ekotto, Lennon, Modric, Kranjcar, Bale, Van der Vaart, Crouch. Subs: Cudicini, Huddlestone, Pavlyuchenko, Defoe, Bassong, Walker, Livermore.
Man City: Hart, Zabaleta, Kompany, Lescott, Clichy, Toure Yaya, Barry, Silva, Nasri, Aguero, Dzeko. Subs: Pantilimon, Richards, Milner, Johnson, Savic, Tevez, Balotelli.

Spurs not bothering with having a remotely defensive midfielder against that front four? Fair enough.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

Kaboul in midfield would make sense but that might mean having to play Bassong in defence against Aguero so...

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

crouch is the real problem tbh

Nice music behind clips of modric- 'i need you but you don't need me'

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

we're gonne be kilt

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:25 (thirteen years ago)

incredibly inept crouch headers: 1

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

ref having a nice little awayer for himself, this is bullshit

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

Is this not on the radio? Five seems to have some sort of motor racing if I'm not mistaken.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

Who's going to take penalties for City this season, I wonder.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

slowly coming around to the idea that dawson is a v good CB

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

ok harry needs to admit this no dm shit is not working, they're just picking shots and passes from 25 yards with impunity

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

dawson has his moments, still, but he's turned out to be a strength surrounded by dross a lot of the time

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

Lotta cards already.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

ref starting to even it up

bale is just ridiculously targetable for cheapshot tackles, nice to see zabaleta booked for the first sally

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

ridiculously inept crouch tackles/touches 1 each

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

modric has been excellent, no problems with commitment or running

krancjar, though....

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

fuck

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

both have to score

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

inept header from crouch almost turns into assist

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

Bale out.

Stevie T, Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

inept header from crouch takes ot iff luka's head tbf

bale 'struggling'

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

yellows ffs, needless

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

Match won't end with 22 imo.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

can hardly at this stage, every eejit likely to disregard the fact that they're on a yellow going into a tackle is already booked

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

fuuuuck

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

not enough swaz

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

really need champion to stfu

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

easy and cheap

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

both he and burley are loathsome.
nicely done

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

Why no Adebayor, does he have one of those Real Madrid-type clauses or just not ready yet?

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

3 goals in a week against us from centre forwards unmarked on the penalty spot

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

Man City wont let him play against them boxall

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

In fact that may be an EPL rule

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

they're the same with crouch

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

ooh

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

lol

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

fair play to crouch, that was a good effort

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

lol at the zinger, not the Crouch header

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

three men in the box at home a goal down for an attackign corner

ffs

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

thats how to head it

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

He'll have convinced the supporters with worse sightlines that he hit the woodwork, that's a small victory.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

what the hell did he just do

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

gonna be cunted

kaboul

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

shove kaboul into midfield, he's not worth having at cb this week

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

ur sposed to jump for headers younes bb.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

nasri decided that crossing the ball not pointless now he's left arsenal

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

Give credit where it's due, I think Dzeko today would be giving better defenders the same trouble.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

three fuckign players in the box for an attacking corner

and we still lose a goal on the counter ffs

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

so much space

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

how many subs are you allowed make at half time?

bale kranjcar lennon crouch......

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

Dzeko chasing Bale all the way out to the flank and taking the ball away was pretty lol.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

the ball into whoever drops into the hole is too simple

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

lack of DM is killing us, even taking krancjar's complete disinterest into account

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

Not able to watch the game but these look like some bizarre and tactically inept choices from Redknapp. He's testing my patience now.

Matt DC, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

ffs. like hodgson starting with torres & ngog at city last season. even i could see it might be a shit idea.

Chris, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

How do City look compared to Utd? TalkSport guys are getting quite excited.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

Dzeko and Nasri the standouts in the first half, Aguero and Silva not involved as much, but the formation seems to work. Though as pandemic said Spurs are letting the ball reach Silva & Nasri from the flanks way too easily.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

thudd, has the nimbleness to deal with silve et al

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

still think spurs are capable of scoring twice here. whether they can keep city out at the other end i'm not so sure about.

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

bale and lennon should be doing more defensively, in attack they're hardly featured- tho bale came into it a bit at the end

city first to every breaking ball in the centre, and can approach our box with impunity.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

vdv really isolated, and crouch not worth including in any fair summary tbh

lennon is stinking the place out- there again wastes a good position with hesitation

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

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Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

Dseko is the Anticrouch

Number None, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

yes

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

too easy

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

aaron lennon could have that position ten times out of ten and not deliver a ball that dangerous nor simple

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

3-0 and if you swapped crouch and kaboul for dzeko and kompany it would probably be level right now...okay not really

haha "just a shit man utd"

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

bet he'll be furious if Mancini subs him, he'll think he could get one or two more.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

crouch and kaboul for dzeko and kompany it would probably be level right now...okay not really

yeah, not really- we'd be two up

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

fucking hell

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

class

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

That finish!

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

what a 1-2

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

pfft, pathetic tbh

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

oh my

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

ilx xi beat these clowns in either final third

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

aguero is just too good. has set up at least three goals today i think

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

no, nasri has two

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

0 pts -7 goal diff
tho have played best 2 teams in league by far.

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

well yeah nasri got the assists but aguero's been the one with the flawless opening through balls everytime. that counts.

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, that's a fair point- but the goals conceded, for the most part, are goals you'd concede against wigan too

spurs the new liverpool
citeh the new chelsea
chelsea also the new liverpool
utd still utd
arsenal the new spurs
liverpool the new ?

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

this will be interesting

deuuuce

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

boo

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

4-4 calling it

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

think of newcastle, nasri having flashbacks

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

crouch will give me throat hernia the cunt the fucking gah cunt

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

At least it's not going to get any harder than this..

Matt DC, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

Crouch just jumping aimlessly

Number None, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

not drawing any conclusions for the season from this, well none that i hadn't drawn from last season anyway

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

vdv down and out

defoe playing like defoe out there

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

I hope 'arry reminds us how many points they have after the match.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

4-5 callin it

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

defoe looking good, still doesn't get in the box enough

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

who'd beaten us when arry took over james?

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

book savic for timewasting

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

great attitude by VDV there

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

spurs led 2-0 at the break, we've really let the ball drop here

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

/ champion

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

bale runs through to look up and see ..........

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

jump ffs

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

to peter out (third-person singular simple present peters out, present participle petering out, simple past and past participle petered out)

(idiomatic) To dwindle; to tail off; to diminish to nothing.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs only have 10 men on right now, right? VDV wasn't subbed, just walked off?

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

yeah

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

yeah

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

vdv otm tbf

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

assuming we get diarra and can play adebayor, this isn't terribly worrying- we just need the centre back we've needed since ledley retired in 2001

why livermore didn't start today after being so effective against utd is a mystery

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

Szczesny, Jenkinson, Djourou, Koscielny, Traore, Coquelin, Ramsey, Rosicky, Walcott, RVP, Arshavin

de Gea, Smalling, Jones, Evans, Evra, Nani, Cleverley, Anderson, Young, Rooney, Welbeck

Number None, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

now burley just called micah richards, dean richards (rip) i think

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

Coquelin?

Number None, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

wow that arsenal midfield gonna struggle

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

I thought Sandro would be back in September, is it going to be longer than that? Diarra was unwilling to go to you last I read.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

joe cole ought to provide the leadership we're lackign out there

better cf than crouch tbf

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

On way to Old Trafford. Predict 3-0. Coquelin to be sent off obv

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

here it comes....

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

is that the same utd team from monday night NN?

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

crouch's first decent header in four years and defoe won't put a head on it

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

Coquelin, wow ... he'd better at least stay on the pitch 90'. Is Sagna hurt now as well, when did that happen?

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

yeah team unchanged

Number None, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

sagna in talks with birmingham, wants to play for a team in contention for silverware iirc

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

class goal!

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

terrific

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

Dzeko!

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

absolute beauty

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

fucking hell, this guy

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

yeah he's in aguero's out in ffl, was a coin toss btwn them tbh

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

what formation were city playing

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

How do City look compared to Utd? TalkSport guys are getting quite excited.

They're just a shit Man Utd.

Chris, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

4-2-3-1 kinda, aguero just off dzeko, silva left nasri right, barry/yaya holding

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

city played 11-0, all their players played on the pitch and spurs kinda tried something a lil difft

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

rare for mancini to play four attacking players away from home vs a notionally good side

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

I thought 4-2-2-2, wasn't that much width from their 'wingers'.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

Jenkinson Djourou Koscielny Traore

lol

James Mitchell, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

^

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

deems u must be overjoyed with a fresh and extensive list of bitter complaints against the spurs hierarchy

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

spurs result will be a footnote to what happens next

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

not really nakh0 these are the same complaints, and that's just boring tbh

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

de jong was injured makh so that may be why so attacking

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

BANG

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

"arsene, is this the weakest squad you've ever bought here?"

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

didn't bother with reply tbh

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

wait, is vermaelen injured again?

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

what chance this is a repeat of 07 in which a genial and popular laissez faire manager is undermined by levy and sacked after a terrible opening to the season, to be replaced by a spanish manager

hopefully rafa does better than juande tho

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

No he has 'a knock'.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

what chance this is a repeat of 07 in which a genial and popular laissez faire manager is undermined by levy and sacked after a terrible opening to the season, to be replaced by a spanish manager

losses to the league 1-2 before we can play a CF isn't quite the same thing tbf

ancelotti will be the replacement if anything happens soon, tho

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal: Szczesny, Jenkinson, Djourou, Koscielny, Traore, Ramsey, Coquelin, Rosicky, Walcott, van Persie, Arshavin. Subs: Fabianski, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Chamakh, Lansbury, Miquel, Ozyakup, Sunu.

We are going to win the Carling Cup with this side.

Referee: Howard Webb (S Yorkshire)

Oh no we're not.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

ferguson slithering up close enough to the stricken wenger to smother him imo

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

Who'zyakup?

Sunu was great at the U20 World Cup, Coquelin played but didn't make much of an impression.

This is only going to be funny a few minutes longer.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

no sanchez watt no cred

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs looking great for 4th alright. A lesser side would have lost 7-1.

LocalGarda, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

Kompany aside, still don't think that's a Championship-winning defence, but put De King in for Barry and that's still a pretty fucking fearsome team.

Matt DC, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

De Jong even. Fucking autocorrect.

Matt DC, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

If Arsenal win, Paddy Power will refund all losing 1st/last goalscorer, correct score & scorecast singles on the match.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

So excited to get the feed for Hearts v Hibs. I should take that to the SPL thread probably.

arch midwestern housewife named (Laurel), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

Laurel i seem to recall you being a hannover fan, or have i made that up?

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

My ex was from there, the full extent of my interest for a time. Liked their manager, tho.

arch midwestern housewife named (Laurel), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

Hail Mirko!

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs looking great for 4th alright. A lesser side would have lost 7-1.

― LocalGarda, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:45 (14 minutes ago)

i'll pay that

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:02 (thirteen years ago)


diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan) wrote this on thread "My client became a YouTube sensation at the age of 12" - rolling off-season/transfer speculation thread 2011 on board I Love Football on 26-Aug-2011

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bale parker sandro lennon
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friedel

would have been a match today, tbf

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

arshavin with the reducer

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

not enough strength of character in this Arsenal side for their attempts at Eduardoing to work.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno arsenal roughing em up here

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

shameful defending

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

shocking centre half play

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

this kid djourou i dunno

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

kocielny really didnt fancy that header. cowardly.

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

smalling a better cf than crouch

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

srs ballsuppery.

was about to say before that, how do arsenal so consistently fail to have anyone in the box when the opportunity for a cross arises? it seems like it would be harder to have everyone hang back for some reason as they do.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

lol smalling's form leaves my fantasy rb fabio an irrelevance.

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

more shocking defending

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

can't believe evans is the weak link

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

criminal from evans there

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

oh RVP

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

Why bother.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

ha

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

Dodgy keeper :-)

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

awful penalty

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

BOOM

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

zinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

yowsa

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

Evans gets more conspicuously shit every week. Expect Sunderland to swoop before the window shuts.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

mental strength

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

So inevitable.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck yes!

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

terrible defensive header

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

i love those goals

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

dangerous team to concede a penalty against

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal and spurs in a relegation dogfight should be exciting. look forward to it.

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

de gea spoiling the fun by forgetting that he's shit.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

What else can go wrong for Arsene in the next sixty minutes?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

van persie signs for man city at half time.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

spurs

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

crouch signs for arsenal at half time.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal and spurs in a relegation dogfight should be exciting. look forward to it.

even though i doubt that will happen, and i know you're just joshing, but fuck that that would be awesome

Summer Slam! (Ste), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

is it the arsenal fans singing "6 years and you've won fuck all"?

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

there goes wellbeck

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

pity

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

you were saying ismael? enter hernandez

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

arshavin continuing to fail to get sent off will also add to arsene's woes.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

spurs too good to be in dogfight

arsenal.. well let's see after wednesday i guess. still time to sign a couple of 6m centre halves

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Heh, was just thinking we might get a Berbatov desperate to be noticed.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

:'(

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

arshavin trying to keep up arsenal's record of one player sent off per league game this season

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

why d'you only turn up in a crisis suedey

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

Surely only a matter of time before Arsenal start racking up the bookings

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

Ha! No sooner said...

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

lols

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

spurs played today just reminding

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

Get the fuck in

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

oh man

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

Fantasy points! nicely done wayne

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

wow today

Summer Slam! (Ste), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

4-4, calling it.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

My only hope is that the result isn't as bad as Spurs, but even saying that feels like tempting fate

5 Live absolutely slaughtering them right now, questioning whether anyone will want to sign for Arsenal after they get beat by 3 or 4 feels bit much though tbh

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

I mean even saying what earlier felt like tempting fate, now it just feels like daydreaming

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

I'm best in a crisis! Also because I feel like the season only starts on Sep 10th, I'm not ready

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

fair question as to whether the youth team guys are even gonna want to play for arsenal at this stage tbh

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

ok suedey but post more pls

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

didn't they lose like 6-1 once here under arsene?

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

Think the Arsenal players should just walk off in protest

Default is a 3-0 loss right? Fuck it

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

Wasnt that an FA Cup game? Credited as fucking up their season and tilt at the title?

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

My stream's basically a series of crowd stills now, I'm just making assumptions as to what's panning out for the most part. Arsenal doing ok I reckon.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

nah that was a league game

you get extra points deducted for not fulfilling a fixture iirc

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

Also, a protest against what?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

wenger not replacing them with full time footballers of epl standard

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

The 6-1 was a league game in 2001 (when United were cruising to the title). The cup game that derailed Arsenal's title push was a 4-0 win in 2008 (last match I went to).

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

Not convinced by Utd's defence tbh although vidic to come back

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger is like a man trying to shop in Waitrose who only takes his spare change and keeps waiting for things to end up in a bargain bin that doesnt exist

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

i mean this is in the nicest of ways really but for a neutral this has been almost embarrassing to watch

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

bargain bin exists but mancini has paid thugs patrolling it imo

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

I derailed Arsenal's title challenge by sneezing once.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

wenger is like a

nice goal

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

YEAH

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

It's on.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

dodgy keeper

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

wenger is like a millionaire living in one cold room of a crumbling mansion eating yesterday's porridge, except he moans about it

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

And no time left to concede a fourth.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

IT'S ON.

jklol.

also xplol.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

I forgot what I was gonna say though, thanks Theo

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

lol de gea

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

Radio annoying me by keep going on about how they don't know anything about Gilles Sunu, do yr fucking job dudes I've seen you commentate on him playing before ffs

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

So should really only be 3-2 down despite being crap. Utd should be embarrassed imo

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

how fair do we have to be to arsenal in noting that they have, what, five of their first choice defensive-ish six out?, and how much can we just lol and such?

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

For how bad it's been Arsenal could have three, it's just that Utd could have had like ten

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

Substitutes: Fabianski, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Chamakh, Lansbury, Miquel, Ozyakup, Sunu

I mean really

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

Can't read all the way upthread - are ppl faulting Coquelin for 2-0, or Szczesny for 3-0? Feel like those were quality strikes not horribly defended. Not that I'm an expert on free-kick wall positioning.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

I think we can only look upon it solemnly and bow our heads with respect at the slow crumbling decline of Arsenal and fear for all the children being pervesely thrown to the lions for "the greater good"

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

xp commentator said he should have had a guy on the post. ridiculous imo.

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

Thought the header out for the 2-0 goal was poor but finish brilliant obv.

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney and Young did the exact same freekick routine with almost the same result against Spurs. Probably should have had a man on the post

Number None, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

was the 3-0 goal off of the free kick after Jenkinson dragged Young to the ground for no reason?

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

yah

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

Coquelin I thought hasn't been bad at all.

Could've had a man on the post, yeah. Though I imagine they'd still try it, and who's tall enough to have got his head to it.

xp didn't drag him, was an aerial challenge, think he expected Young to push back some and instead he toppled, still a foul though.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

Ben Foster you dolt!

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

put the keeper on the near post, line up everyone else along the goal line.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

Having a man on the post for a free kick is gonna fuck up your defensive line a bit though rite?

MPx4A, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

xpost

MPx4A, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

Anderson surely 'interfering with play' for Rooney's free-kick btw?. Guess he was level with the last Arsenal defender though.

Chris, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

I saw where Anderson was lining up and thought he'd surely be offside for any rebound - but did he rush towards the keeper while the shot was being teed up, or something?

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck, Donegal throw it away with a man advantage. Dual watching went quite well though i managed to miss the Ashley Young goal

Number None, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

nice save. de gea may be the worst keeper in the league but it seems that he gets down to low shots v well.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

Ay, had to score there.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

and there

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

and again

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

OX!!

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

this is practice overload attacking for utd at this stage, if they cared like city did this would already be 6

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

To be honest, I wasn't that thrilled about signing Young, but he's been brilliant so far

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

called that

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

Hahaha, good goal

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

cmon couple more wayne

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

Hahaha! So sweet

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

wtf?!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney salvaging a dreadful fantasy weekend for me.

Gukbe, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

awful from rooney there

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

this is practice overload attacking for utd at this stage, if they cared like city did this would already be 6
This is silly.

Is Young getting an assist every time he traps the ball on these Rooney f-ks?

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

fuck's sake

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

embarrassing

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

What does Ferguson do here? He could actually kill Wenger off for good here.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

i meant 5-5 earlier.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

Not saying they won't get it to 6, btw.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

What does Ferguson do here? He could actually kill Wenger off for good here.

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, August 28, 2011 4:27 PM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark

FINISH HIM! Karate Kid

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

I hope someone's keeing an eye on that Korean lad's London hotel room

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

I actually stopped paying attention because I can't take it anymore

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

sfdbgkowrgs\b

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

OH MAN

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

Park you beauty

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

wenger's gonna go tonight isn't he

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

dearie dear.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

glad djourou and sczezny are up to scratch for a title shot tbh

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

and I thought putting Park on was him calling off the dogs

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

I FEEL LIKE CHICKEN TONIGHT

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

I hope someone's keeing an eye on that Korean lad's London hotel room

irlol

I wonder if Wenger's dream retirement job wouldn't be running the scouting operation at Udinese say, less stressful.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

honestly? I'd have left by now if I was an Arsenal fan. Not gonna lie.

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

come on hernandez would it kill you to score today

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

PSV 10-1 Feyenoord is now the benchmark here btw

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

Still outdoing Tottenham innit

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

hey guys. will read your comments in a minute but first i must say LOL

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

2 of the top 10 CB's in the league iirc
xp to Darragh

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

it's on

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

Game on

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

GAME ON

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

6-6 here we go

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

that one's cos Smalling's so desperate for his goal

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

Arshavin best player for Arsenal I think, though he could've been sent off without complaints from me.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

Was he conversing with that Utd fan?

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

wlbgoe

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

argh

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

comeback off

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

there you go 3 off in 3 games

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

Cheerio

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

Good to keep up the consecutive sendings off though

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

If Rooney puts this in too

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

could use Eboue now

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

wonder if Miyaichi'd be an OK emergency right back.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

hey guys. will read your comments in a minute but first i must say LOL

― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Sunday, August 28, 2011 4:32 PM (4 minutes ago)

i was assuming you'd offed yourself when you saw the lineup. saving it for the end of the transfer window?

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

How many players does Wenger need to buy again?

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

2.

yup.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

horrorshow

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

better let rooney take this

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

chickens now lining up in an orderly fashion outside the roost on their way home

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

my German-lang. commentator has stopped saying the names of players on the pitch, instead I hear M'Vila, Hazard, Cahill, etc.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal won't even be able to qualify for Europa league via fair play. RIP North London football.

oppet, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

don't fuck it up

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

3 of 11 coming up

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

(

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

most competitive league in the world

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

Those two goals for will make this look a lot better in fifty year's time

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

You just know if we a ninth Arsenal will go straight up the other end and grab a third

My heart goes out to the people of platitudes (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

my German-lang. commentator has stopped saying the names of players on the pitch, instead I hear M'Vila, Hazard, Cahill, etc.

― boxall, Sunday, August 28, 2011 4:40 PM (1 minute ago)

i learned from my german-lang. commentator that german uses the english terms 'ice hockey' and 'hat trick'.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

I hope Arsene doesn't get the sack.

Gukbe, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

Should've had more tbh

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

ffs autocorrect - this day gets worse and worse

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

hat-trick sure, but when did 'ice hockey' come up?

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

Game on. Chamakh is an impact sub.

Gukbe, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

I repeat: LOL.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

even when LFC were abject last season they didn't just capitulate in this manner. Mental pygmies.

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

City should be Arsenal about 15-2 on this evidence.

Matt DC, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

Redknapp must be relieved

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

I just remembered the reason I didn't watch this match was that all the feeds are so fuckin janky they may as well not exist.

arch midwestern housewife named (Laurel), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

not so much dwarfism as prepubescence

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

The fantasy match-up I really want to see is Arsenal v Hearts

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

City 2x better than Utd, was that already put to a vote?

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

firstrowsports dot eu yall it's been streaming like a charm all weekend

carstens, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

how much for cahill?

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

HA!

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger can do what he wants, I quit

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

Yes! Damn, need new dn

Manchester United 7 (SEVEN) Arsenal 2 (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

uhhhh

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney 3, Young 2, Welbeck, Park, who am I forgetting?

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

Nani

Gukbe, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

haha, playground stuff!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

I have no memory of that, but thanks.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

Are they players actually protesting?

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

We'll all look back on this and laugh when Arsenal win the league?

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

Uhhh....

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

So that last goal takes us above City despite their five-goal victory? Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho.

Manchester United 8 (EIGHT) Arsenal 2 (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

You only typed that out 7 (SEVEN) times.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

City won by 4 not 5

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

Part of me hopes Utd & City keep at this one-upmanship all season.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

What a pile of shit. Looking fwd to wenger saying arsenal played brilliantly.

LocalGarda, Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

This had got me really looking forward to being on the tube for an hour

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

ominous times

ogmor, Sunday, 28 August 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

I can honestly say I've never had a worse day as an Arsenal fan

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

lol

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

What's this Championship 2 that Paul Merson speaks of? His analysis is going to be fun.

Chris, Sunday, 28 August 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

Still trying to process this

Number None, Sunday, 28 August 2011 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

So... Yeah. That was fun.

There are no emoticons for how I am feeling.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 28 August 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

@Zonal_Marking Zonal Marking
Good news Arsenal fans, Laurent Koscienly had a 100% pass completion rate

I can work with this.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

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PSV 10-1 Feyenoord is now the benchmark here btw

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 18:31 (40 minutes ago) Bookmark

This was 10-0 tbf

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 28 August 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal lacked a little bit of sharpness

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 August 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

apparently the first time they've scored two at OT in the PL era.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

every cloud

pandemic, Sunday, 28 August 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

Do actually feel like that has to be the end of Wenger's dream project, and he really has to try something different now

If he stubbornly refuses Rafa in? I can't think of anyone else. And Liverpool were really good at defending for a while...

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 28 August 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

almunia

sagna kyrgiakos hyppia insua

sissoko song

kuyt bendtner diaby

crouch

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 August 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

That Wenger interview was quite painful to watch

Manchester United 8 (EIGHT) Arsenal 2 (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 August 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

I've been on a train most of today and missed everything. Was going to avoid MOTD2 after the Spurs game but it's a must-watch now.

Don't want to write Wolves off too early but... two horse race yeah?

Matt DC, Sunday, 28 August 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

COLUMNS & FEATURES: Alex Netherton tries his best to describe the psychological pain caused by supporting Man Utd. Read »

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

depends if Villas Boas can get Chelsea to click in the next month I think

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

There's also Liverpool, but you're talking about the race for 2nd I take it?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

What else can go wrong for Arsene in the next sixty minutes?

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, August 28, 2011 4:31 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

caek, Sunday, 28 August 2011 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

North london managers got what was coming to them today. What were they playing at- arsene over the past few weeks, Harry just today.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

@henrywinter Henry Winter
At the end, Rosicky Arshavin Chamakh headed straight down tunnel. Van Persie shouted at them to come back & salute #afc fans. Chaos

Number None, Sunday, 28 August 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

well, that was a good day spend 7 hours of in the pub.

nothing to add other than to voice my perturbation that google image search isn't having any of my ardent sudden conviction that tom cleverley is just a shit bobby davro. i know it's still true though.

r|t|c, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

can ahoyhoy tell me the one about djourou being a top defender again though? pretty please?

r|t|c, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

can't believe I golfed through all of that

god hates frogbs (cozen), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

This game was crying out for Andy Gray.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

can you beat arsenal's below-par performance

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

If any one - just one, not all - of Vermaelen, Sagna, Gibbs had played today, the defence as a whole might have been 25% less horrific, but probably still would have been mauled by 4-5 goals, and that player's reputation would probably never recover, at least until he left the club. Is that a silver lining?

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

sadly not darragh, though I'm sure I enjoyed myself a whole lot more than the arsenal XI did today

god hates frogbs (cozen), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2031125/Tony-Cascarino-compares-Arsenals-defending-Nazi-genocide-Sky-Sports.html

god hates frogbs (cozen), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

gibbs? Cmon.

Vermaelen would prob have handled two or three of the goals himself. Vidic's rep survived torres that time.

I like kaboul and dawson, but not as a pair. They're both ok to good as chasers, you'd want a more cerebral type alongside.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

swansea's alan tate has broken his leg in what the club has described as a 'bizarre golfing accident'

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

ffs, they can't tell us it's a "bizarre golfing accident" and not give us the details. I need to know how bizarre. Canizares and the aftershave bizarre?

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

foot down a rabbit hole vs golf cart vs seriously poor swing

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

It is time that they got shot of 'pundits' and employ professional commmentators to comment on matches

- James Mathieson, Oxford, 28/8/2011 20:29

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

SWANSEA star Alan Tate has broken his leg —in a GOLF BUGGY accident.

Tate was a passenger in the cart which crashed in a south Wales course this afternoon.

r|t|c, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

http://antipinoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/smiling-dog-2.jpg

Manchester United 8 (EIGHT) Arsenal 2 (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

never have a round of golf with jon parkin

r|t|c, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

Tate was a passenger in a golf buggy at Gower Golf Club near Swansea this afternoon when the buggy ''lost control'', Swansea said. No other players were involved in the incident.

The 28-year-old former Manchester United trainee had his leg trapped between the buggy and a tree, manager Brendan Rodgers said.

Tate, described as a ''very good golfer'' by Rodgers, was diagnosed with a broken tibia of his left leg after being taken to Morriston Hospital by ambulance.

r|t|c, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

got to be careful not to push the driver imo

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

when I said I was golfing...

god hates frogbs (cozen), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFGpgt4EC3I

idk, luis suarez seems to manage fine without a buggy?

r|t|c, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

Why tf am I reliving this?

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 28 August 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

You need to let it out (itt) before you can let it go.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

that's what i thought when i saw yr name at the bottom tbh

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

My uncle is obliging me to, tbh.

We had a good 15 minute spell at the start of the second half but there wasn't really room for that on motd I suppose.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 28 August 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

in between the goals i thought spurs looked ok.

Friedel looks very good imo.

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

lol

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 August 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

Even watching the highlights I want to kill Crouch right now.

Matt DC, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

mancini very right to focus on the goal conceded imo, they'll make hay while the sun shines but there's still a shoddyness there to be exposed somewhere down the line

r|t|c, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

You could do a full goal of the month selection from the Utd and City games alone

Number None, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

yeah my brother wanted to know were there any good utd goals and i was just '.......'

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

toure returning should offer man city a little of the defensive solidity they've been lacking in recent months, no? unless he's been spending this time fattening up for winter.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

Kolo is another Ramadan observant iirc, nakhchivan said so anyway

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

don't know that they're lacking it, tbh, don't know that touré is better than in-form lescott

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

wouldnt have said so myself

r|t|c, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago)

sorry to bring it up again but was there any mention of armand traore walking off the pitch smiling and joking with the utd lads? couldn't believe it when i saw that.

r|t|c, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

only thing i remember traore doing all match was giving young his assist, so ey makes sense.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago)

pardew seems to be morphing into a little old lady

r|t|c, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago)

armand traoré is awes

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

Is it true Tony Cascarino used the phrase "Traore is having a Holocaust" today?

Matt DC, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

ya

why is armand traore awes

r|t|c, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

cuz he just doesn't care

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

oh right

r|t|c, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

He has a fancy handbag iirc.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

the first appearance of the true slacker footballer

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

never knew bape did their own pound shop bags

r|t|c, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

This is how Liverpool started last season, after 3-6-9-12 matches: 13th, 16th, 18th, 9th.

Arsenal 17th, ?, ?, ? any guesses.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

chill out, they'll finish 5th like they were always going to

r|t|c, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

Got to appreciate if not enjoy the journey as well as the destination, Ismael made a good case for that last season I thought.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

Would still take any bets on them finishing outside the top four

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

think martinez' shirt tonite might be worse than any of shearer's

r|t|c, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:43 (thirteen years ago)

hahaha please let colin's reaction to this convo end up on youtube

r|t|c, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, that little cut to him realising there was no way into the conversation for him... kinda great but kinda aww at the same time. Was nice watching Hansen and Dixon clearly really getting into talking to Martinez, though - thought he acquitted himself really well. Aside from the shirt.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 28 August 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

modric asked to be dropped before the match?

Good reason to dock him a month's wages or something, surely?

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 23:02 (thirteen years ago)

He'll be raring to go come October.

boxall, Sunday, 28 August 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

Great spot from Hansen pointing out Rosicky just walking away and not looking behind him to see where Rooney's free kick ended up.

Chris, Sunday, 28 August 2011 23:31 (thirteen years ago)

rosicky knew it was in, spotted that at the time

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 August 2011 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

can ahoyhoy tell me the one about djourou being a top defender again though? pretty please?

― r|t|c, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:09 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

shit man tony adams is rolling in his grave.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 August 2011 01:58 (thirteen years ago)

riproll

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

I don't usually take schadenfreude from other team's losses, but I loved the clips of Arsenal fans with their heads in their hands. I rather like Arsenal, but most "ordinary" teams get spanked every so often; it's only big club fans for whom a severe hiding is a very infrequent experience. It does them good to be reminded of what most football supporters get to feel like on a regular basis.

(My pet hate in football is Spurs fans complaining about how terribly underequipped their team - what with all its multimillion pound internationals and its regular European qualification- is, because every Spurs fan I ever meet uses that as their opening line in football talk. Yes, you're not Man City or Man United, but if you want to watch an underequipped team, try one of the 85 or so that are worse than you.)

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Monday, 29 August 2011 10:45 (thirteen years ago)

tbf

Most of our multimillion pound internationals are shite, hence 'underequipped'

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 10:51 (thirteen years ago)

But that's the thing - they're not shite. They're actually really good, and they beat most of the teams they play against, and they often play really good football. But there are a handful of Premier League teams with better players, that's all.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Monday, 29 August 2011 10:57 (thirteen years ago)

it is as anathema to football as it is in life to expect total perspective on any given situation iirc

r|t|c, Monday, 29 August 2011 11:00 (thirteen years ago)

yeah wth i get given total shit when i say winning nothing for 6 years isn't the end of the world and get shit when i say anything opposite. given their current states, spurs and arsenal should be performing better, regardless of every other clubs in the world

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 August 2011 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno xxxxps, we lose to a lot of lesser resourced teams, seems as worthy of mild complaint as anything else in sporting terms tbh

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

I get where ithappens is coming from - Redknapp was, I think, pretending to be less well equipped than he actually was in defensive midfield yesterday in order to try and press the case for the Parker transfer. I don't think we're the best club in the world when it comes to managing our fringe players - we seem to let them get into a psychological rut so when they do play they either have their heads down or run around like headless chickens trying too hard to impress.

But if you're not at risk of getting relegated or likely to win something then it's easy to be philosophical. Charlton fans were about as level-headed as any fans I can remember during their decade or so in midtable. When you can see your chance for something better slipping away then that's the point you start slating your players.

Matt DC, Monday, 29 August 2011 11:24 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, as I understand it, Spurs' problem is that a load of money has been spent on wages and fees for fringe players who would be good enough for most PL first teams, but aren't quite good enough for a team with Spurs' aspirations and who therefore don't get a load of first team football. Would have been better to try to attract fewer but better players. But that's Arry's fault for stockpiling, rather than Levy's for not splashing out.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Monday, 29 August 2011 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

arry's, jol's, ramos's, etc

Don't know any spurs fan that wouldn't rather see youth players on the bench than hutton, crouch, jenas or bentley. If levy announced free transfer availability for these guys in the morning it would be good news. Failure to address the problems at centre forward and a partner for dawson have been ongoing and obvious.

But yeah it's been good times lately, we've got a left winger and decent options at defensive midfield, when fit, so that's something y'know

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah in fairness most of those signings predate Harry.

Matt DC, Monday, 29 August 2011 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

Redknapp on Crouch to Stoke rumours
as though blaming Levy for secretly trying to sell him
to Stoke

don't feel Redknapp has been behaving very well, somehow, all in all

but I do actually think Parker would be good

the pinefox, Monday, 29 August 2011 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

I feel this maybe will be a gripe you start hearing from Liverpool fans soon as well, when a title challenge starts to look more realistic, given it's the same dude masterminding transfer policy. Are Carroll and Henderson and whoever good enough to sustain a title challenge?

Although as I keep saying time and time again it's not just the players, they need to be handled properly and managed and developed well. How many managers would have looked at Danny Welbeck and Tom Cleverly last season and seen them as starters in a team challenging for the title? More to the point, how many managers would be able to get them to the point where they looked like they belonged there - same goes for Ashley Young, who's now surely an England starter where he couldn't even get in the last World Cup squad?

Matt DC, Monday, 29 August 2011 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

i think redknapp would want wages docked and a serious warning for yesterday's midfield

And his attempted undermining of levy re: modric staying has been clumsy, embarrassing and unhelpful.

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

I think I'm maybe selling Dalglish a bit short in that last post - he may well be a manager capable of doing that.

Also did Crouch save Redknapp's dog's life or something?

Matt DC, Monday, 29 August 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

>>> These will be a frantic last few days of the transfer window at White Hart Lane, with Scott Parker and Craig Bellamy likely to join Adebayor at Spurs. Lassana Diarra and Gary Cahill could also still arrive from Real Madrid and Bolton respectively with steel required. "The place needs a little bit of a lift now, and I've told that to the chairman," said Harry Redknapp. "I feel we have to freshen the place up a bit. We'll get one or two more in." <<<

the pinefox, Monday, 29 August 2011 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

(Guardian)

the pinefox, Monday, 29 August 2011 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder how many happy players there are at Spurs right now? Friedel, Dawson, the fullbacks, maybe the wingers, otherwise heads are being fucked with.

Matt DC, Monday, 29 August 2011 11:59 (thirteen years ago)

that quotation shows you some of what's wrong

OK Parker is fine. Maybe Diarra and Cahill are too.

But it is insane to spend 2 years trying to sell Robbie Keane, then go out on the last day and sign ... Craig Bellamy.

And you should not make transfer policy on the basis of 'needing a lift'; and you should not talk about 'getting one or two more in' -- it sounds like retail therapy.

You should do what Tottenham have actually done quite a bit of in the past: target talented young players (like Bale, Lennon, Dawson) as part of a squad-building strategy. And you shouldn't do this on the last day of the window!

the pinefox, Monday, 29 August 2011 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

someone (D-mac or whoever) posted a stat a few months ago saying that Friedel's form had gone, he was a liability. I have always believed it, and suspect this is not a good signing.

the pinefox, Monday, 29 August 2011 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

the problem is in getting the right players out, too. If crouch wasn't there then we'd have to pick a striker with discernible output.

When all are fit (leaving king out, to be fair about it) it really is just one cb and one cf slot needs solving, and adebayor ought to sort the latter.

I think if we have a functioning target man it will transform our entire attacking 5 and make it a lot easier to retain possession too. That hope, and the fact that we've only played the coldest type of brute brilliance so far, is keeping me from my typical kneejerk reaction. Even ekotto has proven matt's faith in him justified, sandro is out at the minute but looks great, lennon's awful now and bale's looking slack but that's wingers for you. Things are ok tbh.

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 12:04 (thirteen years ago)

Pinefox surely even you are not persisting with the notion that Robbie Keane is still a good player? Bellamy was pretty unstoppable in his last season with Man City, but is mad inconsistent and maybe blunted by a season in the Championship. I reckon he's more likely to go to Liverpool than Spurs.

Friedel is a stopgap signing I think. Looks like Gomes will be gone soon and we'll hopefully get a season with fewer howlers in goal.

Matt DC, Monday, 29 August 2011 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

Why is Palacios going to Stoke?

Chris, Monday, 29 August 2011 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

i had thought friedel a strange signing, but his first two performances that i've seen have been quite good- only 8 conceded yes, but no howlers. I think Gomes is shot, gone, finished. Love him, and he'll never be a robinson, but you can't have faith in the player that let in those goals at the times he did last year.

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

I feel this maybe will be a gripe you start hearing from Liverpool fans soon as well, when a title challenge starts to look more realistic, given it's the same dude masterminding transfer policy. Are Carroll and Henderson and whoever good enough to sustain a title challenge?

henderson had a great game at the weekend. plus we do have several other players. think it's a bit premature to be saying we can't win the league with players we haven't bought yet in windows that haven't opened yet when we're still focussing on getting into the top four.

LocalGarda, Monday, 29 August 2011 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

palacios is going to stoke because he's been really very bad for over a year, and sandro does his job much better.

Hopefully he recovers form - he was great for us in our season finishing fourth

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah was gonna say for a time I thought Palacios was looking good. Ah well.

Chris, Monday, 29 August 2011 12:20 (thirteen years ago)

Keane is one of those issues on which I historically disagree with others - and will never agree - but fwiw:

I think he was a great player. HR re-signed him, for £11m or whatever, so should have used him properly thereafter. Instead he soon dropped him and farmed him out whenever possible. It has greatly frustrated me that people say eg 'Keane wasn't good for Spurs last season' etc - he only played for us about twice. It was all a self-fulfilling judgement on HR's part. The less he played, not only the less time he had on the pitch to do anything, but the less fit he seemed to get - so when he went to West Ham he soon broke down. It's all very sad.

In the state he's in NOW, he might well not be good enough for a top PL club. But then, we don't look much like a top PL club at the moment. And Crouch / Bellamy up front would look more worthy of Stoke, Bolton or whatever.

I wish Robbie Keane very well on his US adventure. I hope it's a great fun coda to a good career.

the pinefox, Monday, 29 August 2011 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

Bentley is more of an anomaly: still on the books, and even the bench? - but can he have any real future at the club, having been floating around doing nothing for so long? And then who will buy him?

the pinefox, Monday, 29 August 2011 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

we do disagree on keane after his return, pf.

Defoe looked very bright, back to his old self almost, in his cameo yesterday. That would be a welcome boost- would certainly make signing bellamy a redundancy.

Parker is a very good player, but for the life of me i can't see who he'd replace in our current centre midfield that makes him a priority signing. And he's old, expensive and injury-prone.

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

But most people think Parker was very good indeed last season, in a poor team - surely he could still do a good job?

let's agree that Defoe ought to make Bellamy redundant. but Bellamy, for goodness' sake - we shouldn't even be talking about that.

the pinefox, Monday, 29 August 2011 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

parker for modric
Parker for sandro
Parker for jenas

Only if we're getting rid of modric, really, and if that's the plan i'll none of it

I think bellamy/parker are on the same par as prospective signings, adding to a bloated squad without really doing anything much for the first team

What think you of krancjar?

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

you don't think Parker is better than Jenas?
I thought everyone thought Jenas rubbish!

Krancjar is a talented player who scores good goals sometimes, but doesn't seem to have shone when given a chance in these first few games - from what I've seen. But he really is better than most other players. Again I think he's a victim of HR's policy of buying players for the sake of it, then not using them, so they have to be 'moved on'. It doesn't make much sense.

the pinefox, Monday, 29 August 2011 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

jenas was an outlier!

We're ignoring pienaar, huddlestone, even say livermore krancjar and vdv aa options in central midfield before one reluctantly gets to jenas

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

Pienaar was another mad signing
who will one day appear to
'need to be moved on'
having done virtually nothing

when he could have been making Evertonians happy.

the pinefox, Monday, 29 August 2011 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

agreed

Tho he was a better option than modric or krancjar yesterday.

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

Pienaar isn't really a central midfielder. When we have Bale on the left, he's potentially a better option than Lennon on the right, as he can actually cross the ball well, but I doubt he'll get much run in the team and yeah seems an insane signing.

Robbie Keane = great player once, one of my favourites, has been awful at finishing since his Liverpool stint. His time at West Ham confirmed that for me. Actually, I think we only signed him because Defoe got injured so soon after his return - Redknapp's "shit, I've got an injury, better buy another player" transfer policy has been part of the problem. See also Kranjcar for Modric.

Parker would be a first name on the teamsheet all season kinda player though, possibly to the detriment of Sandro's development.

Matt DC, Monday, 29 August 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

think it's a bit premature to be saying we can't win the league with players we haven't bought yet in windows that haven't opened yet when we're still focussing on getting into the top four

In fairness I did say I was being harsh on Dalglish there. Wouldn't trust Comolli though.

The other thing with Spurs is that in the top four season, we played a largely settled XI every week, back four injuries permitting, but everyone knew what the best eleven and best formation was - that's no longer the case and Redknapp hasn't got anywhere near sorting that in almost a year.

Matt DC, Monday, 29 August 2011 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

pienaar is not a bad option at cm, though, and certainly better there than krancjar and modric played together.

I'm pretty close to putting rm as a problem spot, lennon has been infuriating these past few games and there's no natural cover except that one guy

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

Although as I keep saying time and time again it's not just the players, they need to be handled properly and managed and developed well. How many managers would have looked at Danny Welbeck and Tom Cleverly last season and seen them as starters in a team challenging for the title?

― Matt DC, Monday, 29 August 2011 12:52 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

bears reminding that bale's emergence came more through luck than judgement, dawson's too probably. but this is the thing with redknapp, players either "get good" or "get bad" depending on circumstance and their own lone personal journeys of being determined, disheartened, bored, whatever. never any sense of managerial process.

r|t|c, Monday, 29 August 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

Is Gomes likely to go? Playing him against Hearts would surely limit the chances to sell him on to a club still in Europe.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Monday, 29 August 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

didn't comolli buy the entire current spurs team? i'd have said spurs getting into the CL was a pretty good endorsement of him.

LocalGarda, Monday, 29 August 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

not to sound overly cliche english footballer but for all his deficiencies parker's determination ought to lend focus to the team imo. deluxe livermore basically.

rm is sorted, lennon is the problem imo and i did say he shouldve been sold while his stock was high. either corluka/walker or walker/pienaar (or livermore?) would be fine.

r|t|c, Monday, 29 August 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

xp He also bought a huge amount of overpriced junk, though. £9m on Hutton, £17m on Bentley, etc. He was always very hit-and-miss, as i suspect he will be at Liverpool.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Monday, 29 August 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

townsend ftw

Srsly, i do want to see a lot more of the youths that have been intermittently mentioned the last couple of years. UEFA outings should give us that much at least

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

don't think anyone would have predicted how shit bentley became....he'd had a great season at spurs. either way i think his junk is way offset when you see the players he gave that team.

LocalGarda, Monday, 29 August 2011 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

I think Parker is overrated, myself. He was the best thing in a very lacklustre West Ham team last season, but I went to see them a few times and couldn't quite see why he was getting the rave notices. He looked like he cared in a team of apathetics, but that's not enough on its own. His passing was often not the best - it was the box-to-boxness that made him stand out, but that's not the crucial thing in a team that wants to play a quick passing game. Doesn't surprise me that no one's come in for him at the reputed £8m - for a 29yo who'll want four years on big wages, with no prior record of tearing up trees.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Monday, 29 August 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

wouldnt tempt fate if i were you, just in case spurs dont seal the deal

r|t|c, Monday, 29 August 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

bentley and bent were ok, not great value, at approx 16m each, but the wages were joke figures. We did well to get bent sold, we'll never shift bentley at his current level. Loan out to showcase him was a solid idea but he wasn't great iirc

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

meant to say at blackburn up thread...before spurs signed him i meant.

LocalGarda, Monday, 29 August 2011 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

xpost Would take him at Loftus Road, but out ambitions are lower than Spurs'. Not sure we need him now we've got Mad Joey though.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Monday, 29 August 2011 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

Giovani dos Santos Ramírez[1] (born 11 May 1989) is a Mexican footballer who currently plays as an attacking midfielder for English Premier League club Tottenham Hotspur.

Use him! Could play in VDV's position, on the right instead of Lennon ... Or sell him already, so I can watch him somewhere.

boxall, Monday, 29 August 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

xp did you see that paul smudge from the mirror tweeting about us being in for bellamy btw? just imagine.

r|t|c, Monday, 29 August 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

      
pav
dos santos

Krancjar bentley

thudd pienaar

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

Xpost Yeah, I saw that. Bollocks, I'm sure. He seems to be revered by QPR fans for not getting the FA hearing as wrong as a load of other pundits, but when I worked in the football press I didn't have a high opinion of him. Smudge, not Bellamy.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Monday, 29 August 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

xposts. Didn't realise dos Santos is still actually at Spurs. Thought his loan to Santander had become permanent weeks ago.

Chris, Monday, 29 August 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

I did a news search as well as checking Wikipedia, saw a recent link to Espanyol and persistent links to Sevilla (where Santander's coach left for), but apparently it hasn't happened yet.

boxall, Monday, 29 August 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

Look, it's an interview with Robbie Keane, complete with photo of that horrible goal celebration.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/leaving-for-la-robbies-revenge-2860332.html

Not particularly mind-blowing tbh.

Chris, Monday, 29 August 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

is there a more reliable alternative to livesportontv these days?

god hates frogbs (cozen), Monday, 29 August 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

Man it was annoying that ESPN's game this week was the boring Aston Villa/Wolves match, when there so many other exciting ones I would have rather watched. I think I need to pony up for Fox Soccer Network.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

they don't have much choice in that tbf. and yeah, you should get FSC. you get the excitement of having Piers Morgan come on their Sunday post-game/weekend-roundup.

Gukbe, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

just upgraded my TV to get ESPN/eurosport and TiVo. do I plump for sky sports? on one hand streams suck, otoh my money would be going to sky

arsenal for champs - 8/2 against (cozen), Monday, 29 August 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

Well I know they don't have much choice, I was just moaning about how it ended up this weekend. Piers Morgan? Thats a big strike against them, tbh.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

fwiw i'd go round to rupert murdoch's house twice a year to suck him off for the range of football coverage i get, so the extra few quid a month instead doesn't bother me

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

Forlan has gone to Inter

Number None, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

Warren Barton and the other two recreate plays on their little mini-pitch in the studio at half-time. It is sad/lolzy. xpost

Gukbe, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

Yossi/Meireles swap, says Twitter.

Chris, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

plus cash, right?

lolled @ 'timeboom' (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

Huh?! Everything's wrong with that picture, except that I like Yossi.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

you get the excitement of having Piers Morgan come on their Sunday post-game/weekend-roundup.

I didn't stick around for the GOS show after ManU vs Arsenal but I kind of wish I could have; they were saying that he's a Gunners fan.

giraffes have been heard making strange flutelike sounds! (Michael White), Monday, 29 August 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

no mention of cash dmac.

Chris, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Morgan's twitter primarily consists of invective directed at Michael Owen/Wayne Rooney/Ferdinand and hysterical claims for Wenger to be sacked.

Number None, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

I 8 - 2 to say it but...

- Cesc just won his second trophy at Barcelona in a matter of days

- Nasri got three assists for Man City

arsenal for champs - 8/2 against (cozen), Monday, 29 August 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

At least Raul will get a well-deserved pay rise. I'm going to have to face facts and actually like Chelsea now the remodelling is largely through

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

Yossi/Raul thing aint concrete, but the guy it's come from usually knows what's going on. Could simply be AVB giving KD a quick call to sound him out, or vice versa. Or they're swapping football stickers.

Chris, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

cant see a straight swap deal tbh.

Juata Man (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

How is Yossi even still playing in England? Is he really still that good or is he just part of your league now and people think he's a nice guy?

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 29 August 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

Well maybe Comolli and Henry will give the nice Mr Abromovitch some money as well. xpost to Darra

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Monday, 29 August 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

It shouldn't be, but the club clearly don't rate him like we do. That said, it's hard to see Yossi as first choice.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

Frimpong stripped Piers Morgan of his Arsenal supporter status on Twitter, earned his salary by that act alone imo.

boxall, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

Giving Chelsea a better player than the one we get back? Dud. Having said that if they take Joe Cole's wages off our hands as well I might be persuaded. Oh wait...no I won't. Raul and Suarez will be good together I think.

pandemic, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

It's not going to happen though; I think


Suarez
Gerrard
Downing Adam
Henderson Lucas

in some sort of ultraflexible nominal 4-1-4-1 is where we're heading for at the sharp end of the first XI

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

if yossi goes for meireles i'll cut off my hand and post a pic of the bloody stump on this thread. not a hope...

LocalGarda, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

Letting Mereiles go would be outright insane. Great player.

Matt DC, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

if yossi goes for meireles i'll cut off my hand and post a pic of the bloody stump on this thread. not a hope...

― LocalGarda, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:38 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah got this bookmarked.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 August 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't realise Meireles was so highly rated. Assume he's a back-up option in case Modric falls through. Moutinho and Pereira also being discussed and Arsenal in for Benayoun apparently.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Monday, 29 August 2011 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

Don't know if you guys wanna move the transfer speculation to the "My client became a Youtube sensation" thread for these last couple of days of the *Transfer Window*, but "my sources tell me" (lol) that Chelsea bid £8m + Yossi for Meireles tonight. LFC rejected the bid, Chelsea are planning to improve it. LFC don't particularly want Yossi, but Yossi would like to return.

Chris, Monday, 29 August 2011 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

we don't need yossi back and if we take 10m or 12m for meireles someone has lost their mind.

LocalGarda, Monday, 29 August 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

Can't wait for Wednesday night.

Chris, Monday, 29 August 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

we don't need yossi back and if we take 10m or 12m for meireles someone has lost their mind.

Otm. Yossi's not bad but Meireles fits better. Not sure about the price.

giraffes have been heard making strange flutelike sounds! (Michael White), Monday, 29 August 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

idk raul meireles seems to be white but his attempts at carrying off the combat 18 aesthetic are a bit fey

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 29 August 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

Agreed. On the other hand, I do want to see him get a game (Yossi too) and for whatever reason it looks like that won't be here.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 August 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

xps

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 August 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

Can't wait for Wednesday night.

― Chris, Monday, 29 August 2011 22:58 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

shit yeah. was planning on going to see planet of the apes but might try to convince my mate to just watch ssn with some beers.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 August 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/7uojx.jpg

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 29 August 2011 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

Sir Alex Ferguson's impact at Old Trafford has intensified the allure the club has held for generations. The craving of businesses to be associated with United verged on self-parody when DHL chose to sponsor the training kit for £10m a year.

wtf?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 01:55 (thirteen years ago)

yeah happened last week. I won't claim to understand the logic behind it

Number None, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 01:57 (thirteen years ago)

http://news.arseblog.com/2011/08/lequipe-arsenal-sign-mertesacker

French media claiming Mertesacker deal has been agreed subject to a medical. Shit this is like being a Liverpool fan for the past year or two condensed down to the past two weeks.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 09:12 (thirteen years ago)

If you need to sign players that are expected to safe an already lost season in the last two days of the transfer window, U R DOING IT RONG. What a shame.

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 09:15 (thirteen years ago)

save, even

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 09:16 (thirteen years ago)

wasn't Fabregas already part of our starting xi 4 years ago and Nasri part of Marseilles?

anyway, of course we aren't doing it wrong. Last week of the window is infinitely more fun than getting your business done correctly and pre-season. Football is about entertainment, not having a cohesive squad that wins things.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 09:17 (thirteen years ago)

That's the spirit!

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 09:19 (thirteen years ago)

Bendtner has scored 45 goals in 79 starts for the club

whaaaaaaaaaaat?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 09:20 (thirteen years ago)

Meanwhile Liverpool turn down £8m plus Yossi, which is good news except that he's clearly going to go for a slightly improved bid. On the upside, it confirms that Chris has got some kind of insider contact worth listening to.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 09:21 (thirteen years ago)

including youth competitions, reserve games and school fetes. xp

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 09:23 (thirteen years ago)

79 starts plus about 80 sub appearances, but still who'd've thought it?

Known for his extreme self-confidence, Bendtner once received a confidence rating that exceeded the scale in a test carried by an Arsenal psychologist

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 09:25 (thirteen years ago)

As an Arsenal aficionado I don't care enough to not have massive lulz about it. But it's a toss up between kinda sad mostly lol/kinda lol mostly sad tbh

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 09:29 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder if that's like when Chelsea announced Frank Lampard was the most intelligent person in the world since records began or some shit

I enjoy how AVB responds to any remark he mildly disagrees with by contorting his lips into a gigantic pink crescent

MPx4A, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 09:29 (thirteen years ago)

December
Nicklas made just one start in December but did get on the scoresheet in the 2-2 draw with Wigan. The Dane went through an exciting time with his partner expecting a child and, despite his immediate concerns on spending time with his family, he set his sights on fighting for his place after Christmas and in the New Year.
His attempt at fatherhood was about as successful as Arturo Lupoli's Arsenal career.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 09:32 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11670_7138338,00.html

Sky Sports seem... to not know the difference between Italian football teams?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 09:38 (thirteen years ago)

was just remembering Colin Murray's strange comment

'tonight Arsenal fans' phones are all down the toilet, they're all off, they're hidden ...
the amount of stick they're going to be taking for the next 3 days'

and thinking what a strange world he lives in.

was going to elaborate why but maybe not necessary.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 10:21 (thirteen years ago)

I love the "and Cesc has won two trophies with Barca already!" nonsense, as if it means anything. I mean sure he's going to win titles with Barca, but maybe wait until they win the league etc etc

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 10:43 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah it's not like they include the Emirates Cup from his Arsenal days

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

It's stoooopid. Did anybody do the 'Mascherano has won xxx amount of trophies since he left Liverpool' thing?

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 11:01 (thirteen years ago)

No but Masch didn't have 'trophies' as his #1 priority so much as 'flee a sinking ship'

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

Exciting news that QPR have signed the left-back who walked off laughing after playing in an 8-2 defeat on Sunday. I look forward to seeing Barton and Warnock committing GBH on him if he does that at Loftus Road.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

yeah well that's why arsenal need barton and warnock

Juata Man (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

I presume Traore was laughing cos he already knew he was trading up

Number None, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

walked off laughing after playing in an 8-2 defeat on Sunday.

http://footballdirecta.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/wenger-interview-wigan.jpg?w=497&h=278
That is a sign of mental toughness

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

I enjoyed him kicking Almunia in the face:

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/10_03/Traore_468x454.jpg

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

xpost
kind of mean that actually, better than
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/gallas%20cry.jpg

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

Pinefox - please do elaborate why

Manchester United 8 (EIGHT) Arsenal 2 (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger's job safe, say Arsenal amid health fears

more classy journalism from the Guardian. "surely he must be under stress right now..."=HEALTH FEARS. some seriously unscrupulous pricks editing that football page.

LocalGarda, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

That is pretty fucking scandalous considering that nowhere in the article does it even allude to any 'health concerns'.

pandemic, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

oh i missed the bit about "people at the club". I take it back, a well sourced article.

pandemic, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i mean...for something like that i'd want a line from a person, even someone anonymous, specifically saying there are actual medical concerns over his health. it's totally from the same hymn sheet as the completely awful hargreaves "anxiety attack" story from last year, which they seem to have changed since it was published.

LocalGarda, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger has offered £22m to Rennes for the France holding midfielder Yann M'Vila but the French club have told him he must pay £30m, which looks to have scuppered any deal.

this sounds quite inflated indeed. i don't know rennes transfer history that well but have they ever sold any players for this much? is m'vila even that good?

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

i'd guess they are holding out for £25m or something, just skimming a lil extra from a desparate customer

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 18:34 (thirteen years ago)

probably yeah but still a lot of money for a club that sold briand, gourcuff and källström (lol i know) for about €15m combined.

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago)

poulsen has signed for a discarded evian bottle

LocalGarda, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

fair price

Juata Man (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

shit i misspelt desperate

i blame the mainstreamer

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/reds-agree-poulsen-transfer

LocalGarda, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

is mertesacker any cop?

arsenal for champs - 8/2 against (cozen), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

I agree with the condemnation of speculation over AW's health fears.

If he does indeed have such problems, then this would be a good time for people to stand back and get some perspective rather than add to the pressure which could (if the story has any basis) have serious or fatal consequences.

I don't like the hyena-pack treatment of Wenger.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

why I think Murray bizarre:

- I don't like his idea that we are all constantly mediated through our 'phones' anyway (also hate it when footballers talk that way)

- it is bizarre to think that if you support a team, your life is full of abuse from others mocking you whenever that team loses. Piece of evidence for my claim: look at ILX itself - a very 'robust' environment, but not full of 'giving people stick' in that sense.

If anything I am more used to commiseration, people saying 'ah well, better luck next week / you had a few players out' etc.

- If people's famous phones are that important to their interaction with the rest of the world, wouldn't they prioritize that need for general social interaction over the minor irritation of text messages (?) from people mocking their team?

(it has just occurred to me that Murray may actually have meant people ringing others up to mock them? even more bizarre)

- if CM is saying that people abuse others through eg email or social networking sites, then wouldn't they be equally exposed to this when using computers, at work and at home? in which case why not say: 'Arsenal fans aren't turning their computers on'

- even if CM's premises have any value, the whole thing shows a massive lack of perspective. All kinds of really important information might come to you at any time; some people might want to turn their phones off cos they fear news of a bereavement, or need to turn them on cos they have a relative in Tripoli. People ribbing you about a soccer match is just not that important.

But I come back to the fact that I don't know anyone that does do that.

I watched my team lose 1-5 on TV on Sunday - it was dire, one of the worst results I've ever seen. But no one has written to me or called me to mock me about it - if they did I would think this was bizarre and crass behaviour. And I know that though in footy terms it's bad, in other terms it's not the most important thing in a world where all kinds of bad and sad things are happening to us all.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

If United lose badly I typically get at least four or five people texting / phoning to mock me, usually starting before the match has even finished.

Manchester United 8 (EIGHT) Arsenal 2 (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

knobless obligay imo

Juata Man (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago)

i liked pf's analysis of cm's routine, but i do think it was a fair enough throwaway hyperbole of most football fans' experience. You'll get a text or two, it won't make you throw your phone away, it's mutually-accepted boorishness that is fairly common i'd have thought

Juata Man (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

Have an ongoing joke with a friend 'x is a hard ground to go to and come away with 3 points' whenever one of the teams drops points. Obv funnier when it's a crappy ground/team.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

it's harder to make a pun with 5-1. whereas 8-2 puns just come in hives

(e.g. 8-2 say i told you so)

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 23:21 (thirteen years ago)

Tottenham looking to sell Crouch, Palacios, Hutton today

policy seems to be to recoup costs and cut wages

good policy, but not sure it's a good deadline-day strategy for improved results.

also odd as Hutton had good spell last season, and Palacios surely could come good again, seemed a good player

don't mind losing Crouch as never wanted him in the first place

why does no one ever come in for Pavluychenko? and if they did, would he be sold?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:11 (thirteen years ago)

if Crouch goes, our strikers will be: Adebayor, Defoe, Pav ...

that's it?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:12 (thirteen years ago)

vdv i suppose, coulibaly in a pinch.

Pav is significantly better than crouch but i think we accepted a 14m bid for him from anzhi makhakla this summer without personal terms being agreed.

I almost agree on palacios, i think a lot of our problems last year were down to redknapp not dropping tired/off-form players and i'd rather wilson coming in than many of the players we'll be left with. That said, his loss of form was startlingly prolonged.

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:27 (thirteen years ago)

I think Harry had a row with Hutton after he got sent off last year and hasn't played him since.

I'd expect Spurs to sign at least one striker.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:28 (thirteen years ago)

tbh, i don't care why harry's getting rid of hutton. Ideally it's because he's recognised his complete lack of ability at this level, but just as long as he's off the team i'm happy

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:30 (thirteen years ago)

who is this Coulibaly?

I suppose we do have HARRY KANE.

VdV is talented but I don't trust him. He's not fit enough to stay the course, and when he's taken off he storms away - and after a couple of months he runs out of fuel and form anyway. It's no good.

our squad looks weaker than a year ago. but I still have some time for Parker and it seems he will arrive.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:35 (thirteen years ago)

i'm beginning to worry about vdv along those lines myself, i had last year down as rustiness but he's already looked out of shape this year.

Coulibaly was the star of the u-17 world cup! Exciting times.

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:40 (thirteen years ago)

Coulibaly's an enormously talented Ivorian but he's sixteen years old and about five-foot-seven. Might be a bit much to expect him to step right in to the team.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:41 (thirteen years ago)

We don't need Hutton, if we want an attacking fullback who's a possibly bit dodgy in defence we have Walker, if we want someone more solid then Corluka is still the man. If we have a couple of injuries and we're desperate we can play Kaboul there.

I like Palacios but I can see why we're selling him - he's one of our few for-sale players that someone actually wants and is willing to pay for. Reckon he'd find opportunities limited with Parker and Sandro around as well.

So, football fans, who's up for an entire day's worth of refreshing BBC Sport to be informed of one Reading transfer and then a flurry of activity with five minutes to go?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:41 (thirteen years ago)

In the modern era, I'm not sure we need four out-and-out strikers (presuming we sell Crouch). I'd rather have a player who can play either at CF or out wide in a 4-3-3 - none of our wide players nor our strikers can do that. Someone like Bellamy wouldn't be a disaster in that sense, assuming he hasn't lost his edge and doesn't attack anyone with a golf club.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:44 (thirteen years ago)

"A few clubs want [Crouch] but we'll have to wait and see with that one," Redknapp said. "It's up to Crouchy. I've had Peter at a few clubs. Good player, great guy as well. But I suppose with Adebayor coming in it's an area that we're a little bit overloaded in and he's one that people want so, if we could do a deal with someone, then it's a possibility."

the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:45 (thirteen years ago)

HR has this amazing way of talking about these things as though he's either a) a totally passive spectator or b) making it all up and he goes along.

the 'I suppose' says it all - if he was going to bring a player in, he *knew* how loaded or otherwise we would be in that area. You don't sign him then look at things and say 'hm, I suppose we're a little bit overloaded'.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:47 (thirteen years ago)

He's hedging his bets because he thinks no one will blame him if things go wrong.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:50 (thirteen years ago)

I actually think Adebayor and Defoe could make a great strike pairing, Adebayor is exactly the player to play to Defoe's strengths, but we're apparently never playing 4-4-2 ever again despite the mountain of evidence it actually works best for us.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:51 (thirteen years ago)

ffs

09.39: Peter Crouch might not fancy Sunderland but one man who does is Roman Pavlyuchenko.

"My agent is in London. He met the (Tottenham) chairman Daniel Levy to try to find a way out, but so far there is no solution," he told the Daily Mail.

"We gave the option of going out on loan for six months but Levy opposed it. The team have five forwards, and someone will not even get into the squad, so I should leave.

"We can find options. I know that Sunderland have been actively interested in me. In England, miracles can happen on the last day of the transfer window. So there is hope, but it is very small."

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:08 (thirteen years ago)

The team have 5 forwards?

why, as I hope Brian Clough would say, do they never score any GOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLS?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:10 (thirteen years ago)

Crouch to QPR
Pav to Sunderland

we go on with a skeleton staff of Adebayor, Defoe, Kane

the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:11 (thirteen years ago)

Someone commented about how players never develop to a plan under Redknapp, instead any changes are down to their own personal journeys of motivation, fitness or depression or whatever - I thought that was good. I see him a bit like a builder sticking bits on here and there according to present need, while simply forgetting about what he did yesterday or the structure underneath. Eventually you end up with a house made up entirely of extensions, and he loses interest in the people who have to live there and wanders off to tinker with a new house instead.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:12 (thirteen years ago)

If Sunderland are in such financial trouble that they need to offload Gyan to appease their bankers then why would they be in for either Pavlyuchenko or Crouch? This doesn't make sense unless they're paying Gyan some insane heady post-World Cup wages.

Shame really as I thought Gyan and Sessegnon could turn into a dangerous strike partnership but probably not with Brucie in charge.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:13 (thirteen years ago)

I see him a bit like a builder sticking bits on here and there according to present need, while simply forgetting about what he did yesterday or the structure underneath

I really like this analogy by the way.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:14 (thirteen years ago)

unless they're paying Gyan some insane heady post-World Cup wages

I'd put money on it... but not as much as Gyan could

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:15 (thirteen years ago)

agree with Mr Klata's strong analysis.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:16 (thirteen years ago)

BBC rumour mill is stoking Bellamy to QPR rumours, as if Warnock's great survival plan is to turn into Newcastle 2005. Next up at Loftus Road, Lee Bowyer.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:19 (thirteen years ago)

Ismael, that was top stuff on Redknapp.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:00 (thirteen years ago)

i'm getting more of a west ham 2006 stupid icelandic spending vibe

not feeling traore at all, fuck an anton ferdinand, and if we shell out ELEVEN MILL or whatever on crouch then i just... have no words

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:01 (thirteen years ago)

bellers is alright i suppose, we need pace everywhere (the thinking behind traore)

i want onuoha and scott dann, gettable imo.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:04 (thirteen years ago)

where is it saying £11m Crouch? That does seem unwise

"#CFC will offer £30m plus Florent Malouda to #THFC in exchange for Luka Modric. #THFC have asked for Didier Drogba," reckons journalist Ian McGarry on Twitter.

lol no-one can tell me that this day doesn't bring the VFM entertainment-wise

Amazing pic of the universe! - VERY NSFW (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:07 (thirteen years ago)

Everyone wait up, I am about to abuse and debase the Drudge Siren.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:11 (thirteen years ago)

QPR: Crouch at the reported £11m would be ridiculous. I like him as a player, but that would be silly money on someone who hasn't scored regularly at PL level for years. Bellamy I think is pie in the sky. SWP would be great. Central defence is what really needs strengthening.

Also, with Young and Barton on long contracts, at 32 and 29, I don't think QPR should be giving out more twilight home deals. A couple to get in players with the experience we need, and whom we can't attract without giving them long-term deals, fine. But we don't need four or five players all around 30, all on big wages, all with us into their dotage.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:11 (thirteen years ago)

xp Proposing http://i47.tinypic.com/zjypt0.gif as temporary deadline day Drudge siren.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:12 (thirteen years ago)

http://cache.dealbreaker.com/uploads/2011/03/drudge-siren.gif"Mario Ballotelli's player profile has been removed from the Man City website" - some knob on Twitterhttp://cache.dealbreaker.com/uploads/2011/03/drudge-siren.gif

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:13 (thirteen years ago)

Please tell me he's singing 'Here Comes The Mertesacker' while doing that dance...

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:13 (thirteen years ago)

Ballotelli and Adebayor playing in the same side would just be too hilarious to truly hate.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:19 (thirteen years ago)

Cahill to Spurs seems like a thing too.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:24 (thirteen years ago)

gahh why is scott dann going to BLACKBURN?

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:27 (thirteen years ago)

Cahill: sounds good?

Modric has always seemed decent to me, but I also think all this transfer talk has massively inflated his reputation. I was just trying to think of Spurs players who have impressed me more than Modric, and the best comparison I could find was -- Chris Waddle, c.1988-9. Goals from all angles, dribbles, passing, a playmaker reborn in mid-career after Glenn left.

I've never seen Modric do all that; most I could say would be 'unlike Wads, he puts in his share, puts his foot in, tackles back' etc - which sounds fine but not inspiring.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:30 (thirteen years ago)

If Arsenal end up getting Keisuke Honda as well as Park Chu-Young I will be very happy that their indie hair quotient will be back to the high standards displayed when the midfield was Hleb, Flamini and Rosicky. Rosicky's hair has really dropped off since those guys left, so hopefully these guys can give him some good tips and maybe recommend a good volumizing shampoo to give him a more luxurious bounce.

The little things are important to the mentally weak.

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

Modric is never going to look like a great player in the Hoddle or Waddle fashion - he'll never be a great goalscorer or even set up that many but at his best he gels the midfield together. Without him our players can run with the ball pretty much in straight lines up and down the field, we're less predictable with him in the team, he brings in other players and helps them play better. He's the hub of the team, Chelsea desperately need a player who can do that which is why they've pursued him to such an extent.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

gahh why is scott dann going to BLACKBURN?

Fancies himself as the new Matthew Upson.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:39 (thirteen years ago)

Bassong to QPR with Cahill to Spurs for 15m might be good business all round.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:45 (thirteen years ago)

yep, that'd do me

talk on crouch now is loan for rest of the season, us taking on full wages. won't go elsewhere cos he loves us soooo much the missus won't leave london.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:51 (thirteen years ago)

Any talk on Jenas?

Can see us loaning you guys half of our reserve team at this rate.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:59 (thirteen years ago)

McGarry's track record this summer is 1 million per cent wrong, to quote Harry.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:01 (thirteen years ago)

Joe Cole now talking to Villa according to the Nult.

Bet Hazard doesn't go anywhere after all this.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

jenas has indeed unfortunately been mentioned by a messageboard itk. for what little that's hopefully worth.

can't wait for cole's predictably depressing villa interview where he exclusively reveals lille seemed a bit foreign.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:07 (thirteen years ago)

1154: As mooted by Phil McNulty earlier, we can confirm that Liverpool's Joe Cole - who was thought to be on the verge of joining French side Lille - is now in talks with Aston Villa.

...eh?

MPx4A, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:08 (thirteen years ago)

Talking of Upson, he was a free agent right? Did he sign for anyone?

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:08 (thirteen years ago)

It's more entertaining than thrilling last minute swoops for Alan Hutton and former Aston Villa star Steven Davis, I guess

MPx4A, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

Apparently he signed for Stoke without anyone noticing? Getting Upson and Woodgate for free was pretty astute on Pulis's part.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

VICENTE TO BRIGHTON!

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:11 (thirteen years ago)

Shaun Maloney to Wigan is a bit of a weird one, he was OK at Villa but visibly hated not being in Scotland with every fibre of his being - not sure if Wigan is better in virtue of being farther north or worse in virtue of being Wigan

MPx4A, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:12 (thirteen years ago)

He can't stay for fit for more than 20 minutes at a time too

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:14 (thirteen years ago)

Most inane Tweet of the day comes courtesy of Mark Bright:

"I understand several Premier League Clubs are keen on Shaun Wright-Philips, but nothing will happen until Owen Hargreaves signs for #mcfc"

Why? Have they previously been relying on SWP to provide emergency cover in defensive midfield?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

They've got to balance their finances

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I can see Maloney being a poignant "Apps: 5 (10 as sub) goals: 0" footnote on Wikipedia

I'm kind of amazed that such a shy, mumbling sadsack could ever be motivated or confident enough to be a top level footballer, but the boy can hit a free kick

MPx4A, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:26 (thirteen years ago)

Someone on the radio this morning said "Shaun Maloney has unfinished business in England" which is a bit odd considering he came back to us because he had unfinished business in Scotland.

Using Ismael's builder analogy - I think Shaun will finish his career with three sets of foundations dug and random piles of bricks lying around while he argues with the wrong council about planning permission.

Cracking wee player when he's fit and interested though. Which is about 6 games a season.

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:31 (thirteen years ago)

The SWP/Owen Hargreaves thing will be to do with meeting the CL squad rules, won't it?

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

Cole to Lille is confirmed. Good luck to him.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:39 (thirteen years ago)

That won't last

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

I'm always pleased to see Brits trying their luck abroad, but another malign consequence of The Best League In The World is that it almost always has the air of tragedy about it.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

he can commute from London if he so chooses

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

It's only a half season loan

MPx4A, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

Danny Murphy phoned him up and confirmed there's a go-karting track in Lille.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

redknapp is fucking awful

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

which one?

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

All three

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

Sandra's a fairly handy striker iirc

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:29 (thirteen years ago)

harry. i meant harry.

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

Kind of amazing that people can vandalise a Wiki page within two minutes of Everton being linked to a loan signing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Stracqualursi

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

Everton shed another striker (beckford to Leics probably), how many does that leave them with? Oh well at least you know you'll get a full season out of Saha.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

sign crouch sign crouch sign crouch

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

Following a rumour with Everton in the August transfer window most people will ask where will he be playing.. my guess is as a roof in the summer months to shield the players from the sun with his massive ears

After a few trophyless seasons Everton signed Stracqualursi to be painted silver and sit in the trophy cabinet pretending to be the FA Cup.

Looks like be might be a decent acquisition on loan. Prolific for Tigre.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

VICENTE TO BRIGHTON!

― r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:11 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

?????????????????

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:39 (thirteen years ago)

Mauro Zarate to Liverpool?

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:39 (thirteen years ago)

2007–2008 Unión de Sunchales 21 (5)
2008–2010 Gimnasia-LP 45 (6)
2010– Tigre 35 (40)

went from being rubbish (6 in 45?) to more than a goal a game? something seems fishy/

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

Yep, someone's mucked about with the numbers. It was 22 goals in 35 games for Tigre before.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

VICENTE TO BRIGHTON!

The next Sturridge to Chelsea?

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

2007–2008 Unión de Sunchales 21 (43)
2008–2010 Gimnasia-LP 45 (45)
2010–2011 Tigre 35 (139)
2011- Everton 0 (0)

glad to see someone's put the proper numbers back up.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

Sturridge is going to Chelsea?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

SkySportsMobile Sky Sports Mobile
#Wigan could be shaking up their midfield options shortly, linked with both Giovani dos Santos and Jean Beausejour. #transferdeadlineday

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

Dos Santos to Wigan has this air of weary inevitability about it. Surely there must be a Spanish club willing to stump up for him?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

Parker has gone to Spurs

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

Ribery to Chelsea doing the rounds. Sneijder to United back on.

So Spurs get Parker, Chelsea sign Ribery and swap Malouda and Benayoun for Modric....

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Q8DzHn3JFIc/TE62334_cwI/AAAAAAAAACQ/9ymfSGkeRzo/s1600/collins_nonce1.jpg

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

is that for Ribery or for me...

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

1359: At Villa Park, meanwhile, a source close to the club has told BBC Sport's Alistair Magowan there has been no movement on Alan Hutton's switch from Tottenham. But the club are likely to reach an agreement today with Shamrock Rovers' Enda Stevens to join in January. The left-back wants to finish the season in Ireland and take part in the Europa League against Spurs.

This is kinda depressing for a club who were gunning for fourth not so long ago.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

I had presumed you would 'ave a last go for Modric, but we'd've heard about it by now surely

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

Rovers are in Europe and Villa aren't. It's clearly a step down for the lad.

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

From the Guardian

The Ribery to Chelsea rumour is swirling with increasing force. A few thoughts from our very own Bundesliga boffin Raf Honigstein on Twitter (@honigstein): "A few initial thoughts. a) he's CL-tied. b) reported wages on offer far too low; c) German transfer list closed, so Bayern couldn't bring anyone in, even if they sold."

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

Ribery has looked really good so far this season, and with Robben injured (again) not so sure they will want to let him go. Muller doesn't like being shunted onto the left wing, nor does Kroos. They have got Alaba but he prefers the right side. Would be good move on Chelsea's part tho.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

Jermaine Jenas has left Tottenham bound for a medical at Aston Villa, it is believed

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

I can hear DMac's sharp inhale of breath from here.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

There hasn't even been a Jenas-to-Inter rumour this year.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

Ribery at Chelsea has definite lols written all over it. Doesn't he hate Malouda? And as if the Premiership hasn't had enough prostitution scandals in the past year or two...

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

Sort of think Jenas would do pretty well in a team as, ahem, direct as Villa.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

Bayern say Ribery rumours are nonsense. Phew.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

Parker fee was £5m apparently, not bad business at all.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

Think he'll be good for Spurs for a couple of seasons.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

Bendtner sr. was at Stoke's headquarters earlier today, but supposedly the deal is off.

boxall, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

Everton shed another striker (beckford to Leics probably), how many does that leave them with? Oh well at least you know you'll get a full season out of Saha.

And Yakubu to Blackburn?

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

Not technically EPL but:

DONE DEAL Wolfsburg have signed Alexander Hleb on a one-year loan from Barcelona.

boxall, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

Forlan to Inter as well.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

parker's a very good, dynamic all-round centre midfield player. With Sandro out he'll at least provide a better screen for the defence than we'd have had otherwise for now. With everyone fit I don't know if he makes the first team, though.

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

Malouda refusing to leave Chelsea. That's the spirit Flo.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

Why are they trying to sell Malouda? That makes no sense.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

Look forward to seeing evidence that Hlb is still alive when I next see Wolfsburg. Is Diego still there somewhere?

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

hleb

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

Diego is supposed to sign for Atletico Madrid in the next few hours.

boxall, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

on loan

boxall, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

Perfect fit there, basket case club with basket case player. Could be wondrous, could be a train wreck.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

Bellamy on his way to Liverpool for a medical.

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=1502440.html?cid=rssfeed&att=

goodbye next failed french youngster, hope you do better than aliadiere

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

VICENTE TO BRIGHTON!

This is *the* Vicente? Wow. I was sad to hear he had retired after last season.

boxall, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

I thought Sunu looked good for France U-20, maybe there's a buyback clause.

(How many times has Aliadiere scored against Arsenal now, for like three different clubs?)

boxall, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

Malouda out to make space for Pereira, or as makeweight in Modric deal perhaps?

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

where's malouda going?

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

NOWHERE!

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

Juventus looks unlikely as they've already signed Eljero Elia.

boxall, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

He's said he wants to stay, though rumours linking him with Spurs/Arsenal.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

Pereira is def an attacking wing-back style defender and can play midfield, but not far enough up the pitch to be competing with Malouda for the same spot, I wouldn't think.

boxall, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

Malouda would have gone to Arsenal but surely not now Arsene has gone mental

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

QPR have signed AC Milan youth product Tommaso Trani on a two-year deal after the goalkeeper was released by the Rossoneri.

QPR's head of youth development Steve Gallen moved quickly to snap up the Italian after watching him train with the Premier League club.

"As soon as I saw him walk through the door at the training ground, I thought: 'Wow'. And within a minute of watching him train I wanted to sign him."

gallen falls in love with a trani hur hur

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

... in the past, I mean, before marble misplacement (xp)

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

don't get it really. any epl club should be happy to have malouda imo and that's not just fantasy football bias on my part.

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

Leicester City left-back Paul Konchesky tells BBC Sport's Paul Fletcher what players who are not on the move get up to on deadline day: "With training finished for the day, I'll be putting my feet up and watching the final few hours of the transfer deadline to see whether we sign anybody. At Leicester you never quite know."

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

With insight like that you can see why they went straight for the Konch.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

fulham have bid for hutton, betley going to west ham, spurs might actually get their roster down to 25.

mizzell, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

I MUST NOT BELIEVE I MUST NOT BELIEVE I MUST NOT BELIEVE...

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

I agree, think we should hang on to Malouda. Course him saying 'I don't want to leave' when asked by a journalist does not necessarily mean Chelsea have tried to sell him.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

jenas crouch hutton bentley out

Fuuuuuuuck

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

Trying to work out who's going to fill 'The Crouch Role' for DMac if Crouch actually goes. Lennon is the current favourite, BAE second, might stick a fiver on an outside challenge from VDV.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

Lennon, VDV, Kaboul in that order is my guess.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

I think BAE has a year's grace period.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

Kranjcar has a shot if Modric goes last-minute and he's expected to start.

boxall, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

Mikel Arteta to Arsenal might still happen apparently.

boxall, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

That would break my heart. Love Arteta.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal need another easily breakable player.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal need another easily breakable player.

boxall, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

hmmm

Depends on the system, if we stick 451 and adebayors holds it up/finishes better than crouch then lennon prob next in line for my mindless abuse, he's been very poor this season so far.

BAE has been good, but is always due a fuckup tbh. I'm probably on his side these days, you just have to allow that a guy with his flair going forward is gonna leave you light at the back.

If Dawson/Bassong/Kaboul are gonna be left as first choice CB's then we'll have soft and stupid goals conceded, i'll have lots to moan about there. Hopefully a bit more mindfield cover than Krancjar provides will improve their chances of defending basic crosses.

VdV hasn't been fit since what, March? Harry should have dropped him long since, but I still love him.

Don't reckon Luka or Niko will be a problem if they stay, I'll always re for flair midfielders.

It's probably gonna be Defoe, though even he looked very good against City when he came on.

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

The Fail's reporting that Joe Cole will be allowed to commute from London to Lille.

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

as revealed on this thread, hours ago. Keep up Mail

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

Mateja Kezman joining BATE is actually stepping up a level from playing in Hong Kong. What happened to that guy?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

Royston Drenthe to Everton on loan apparently. He was good once wasn't he?

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

never was very good, probably made a good sum playing for fener chelsea and atleti tho

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

drenthe isnt bad.....fast, relentless, epl ready, technically not all that

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

Seems to alienate teammates and managers, though.

boxall, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, just reading his wiki there

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

how long does it take to get from london to lille

private plane or eurostar i guess

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

90' on Eurostar I think Jibe said the other day.

boxall, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

drenthe and moyes will be rutting ferociously

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

Kezman was awesome on PES4.

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

is gary cahill very good? is bolton really demanding 17M when he only has a year left on his contract?

mizzell, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

fulham doing decent business today?

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

Nanas08 Samir Nasri Official
This tweet is for the english newspaper stop trying to made something between me and arsenal i love this club and everything around it
What a massive cunt.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

wonder how much of bentley's wages west ham will be stumping up.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

arteta way past his best imo even when he's not crocked

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

a skipful every week xp

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

Ha, thank you Twitter...

"Poulsen will always be remembered as the man that played the pass that got Andy Gray fired".

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

shh dont mention the war ffs

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

Actually the comments were before the match weren't they, but still.

Also, spell Evian backwards.

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

Rohan Ricketts to Shamrock Rovers!

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

I'm already bored with this transfer window. What are the chances of Schweinsteiger coming to EPL when his contract runs out next year? Would be perfect for Arsenal I think, not that it'll happen.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

it won't happen

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

LFC looking for another striker as well as Bellamy.

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

Crouch?

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

My bad, not necessarily a striker (although 2 or 3 have been looked at today), but Comolli apparently working on bringing someone else in.

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

fuckit

How have i not noticed til now that my tv excludes the ssn ticker?

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

crouch agrres to join stoke

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

The one team where he could reduce the average height

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

xp says who

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

Picturing endless Delap throw-ins just bouncing off his head

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

Sky's bloke in Stoke.

xpost

ailsa, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

i see it now

tsk, silly peter

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/ZcPo6.jpg

lol bunch of mongs

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

I have to say I like the idea of Arteta. Still got game (2 in 3 already this season?) but out enough that it gives Ramsey time to adapt to take over when Mikel hits 31 in 2 years time and we have to ship him off to Malaga or something.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

He's too Arsenal though - I want someone really uncharacteristic, Drogba or Phil Neville say

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

You had too much invested in Barton to Arsenal, I think, you'll never be happy now that's out of the question.

boxall, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/ZcPo6.jpg

lol bunch of mongs

We pay their benefits iirc.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

Darron Gibson to Arsenal

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

arteta 2 what in 3 what? not goals so... assists against sheff utd?

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

That's true, now they'll never be the side I wanted.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

oh he had the pen v blackburn didnt he. wow.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

Arteta has scored two goals in three matches so far this season

says BBC

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

the only thing more inane than that stat is someone parroting it as evidence dude still got game

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

Sign Fellaini not Arteta. Do it fast, pay big money and leave Everton at least a few hours to save themselves.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

well considering i thought he hadnt played in about 6 years, i'm just impressed he's played in 3 already this season!

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

Mark Bright tells BBC Football Focus Special that Shaun Wright-Phillips is currently in a hotel in London waiting for permission from Manchester City to speak to a club, believed to be QPR. Blimey, Neil Warnock is signing a whole new team, or trying to.
Wonder which mouthy cunt told his best mate Mark Bright about this?

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

Ha

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

lolz

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

this fuckin arsenal supporters club bit

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

Nice outing for the "What do you think of shit?" chant.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

I notice some of the kids outside the Brittania now have their mums in tow since Georgie Thomson called them out for making wanker gestures.

ailsa, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

18m for palacios and crouch
Might still get 4m for hutton
Incredible

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago)

teams are on some football manager tip today, everyone dumping all their deadwood and bringing in players at the drop of a hat.

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

wait. so crouch isn't a loan. they've actually bought him?

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

2009– Tottenham Hotspur 73 (12)

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

quite pleased with bellamy i have to say, will take him over ngonetobolton anyday

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

Arteta to Arsenal not a thing any more.

ailsa, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

ssn says arteta deal off arsenal now "channelling all their energies into getting yossi benayoun on loan"

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

is it me or has arsenal's transformation into liverpool become even more complete as they now compete for shit creative rejects to go with rushed unproven hired muscle?

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

18m for crouch and palacios
Incredible

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

Pleased about Mertesacker, can't help imagining how things might be different if he'd signed a season or two ago

Yossi Benayoun on loan isn't exactly the kind of thing it's easy to get excited about, feels pretty desperate and can't help hoping there's something else in the pipeline...

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

hargreaves signs for city

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

is it me or has arsenal's transformation into liverpool become even more complete as they now compete for shit creative rejects to go with rushed unproven hired muscle?

― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:22 (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

;_; truthbomb

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

newcastle match fulham offer for ruiz

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

Whoa... wondering if he'll switch last minute. Think he'll stay with Jol tho.

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

stoke approach city for johnson on loan

local mongs roar their approval

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

xp newcastle are offering better terms than fulham and HAVE A CHOPPER ON STANDBY apparently

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

1948: I like the sound of Van Aanholt, especially the bit about him using his "intensity to defend very effectively". A deep thinker?

...bbc need to sack this dude immediately if he think someone who has trained w/ ebjt saying this is a deep thinker

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

xp newcastle are offering better terms than fulham and HAVE A CHOPPER ON STANDBY apparently

― r|t|c, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:54 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

"This is your captain Alan Shearer speaking..."

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

xp yeah that is dire

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

cardiff sign ben turner from coventry, thus ensuring the sky blues' relegation with < 10 points

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

ffs swp & anton ferdinand deals on the rocks

jason puncheon is on his way tho hooray

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

Newcastle are behaving most unlike themselves of late. Apparently their fans are very unhappy at this and want big cash splashed on a striker. I hope Ruiz lets them down.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

why's everycunt left it to the last day?

8-2 fruity (cozen), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

finally a decent rumour https://twitter.com/#!/danwalkerbbc/status/108979805990563840

is wenger's contract up at the end of the year or summat? buying a lot of stop-gappers

8-2 fruity (cozen), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

who is newcastle's super secret director of football? i know pardew's not suddenly scouring europe for canny signings

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

City need to step up now. I hope it's Wilshere.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

ronaldo

£1,000,000,000

8-2 fruity (cozen), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

newcastle's lead scout is alan carr's dad, graham, btw

8-2 fruity (cozen), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

Adam Johnson now? Liverpool should be after this guy imo.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

if liverpool sign adam johnson they'll have the clinical pairing of johnson and johnson on the right. no more tears!

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

assumed michael johnson tbh but is he sufficiently dried out?

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

it won't happen but johnson would be a fucking brilliant signing for liverpool.

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

Dan Walker has recanted that City tweet by the way

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

was it mentioned?

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

dan walker just seeking tweeps.

if you mean johnson darragh, metro saying lfc and arse want to loan him. other wilder rumours on twitter.

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:45 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs to narrowly miss out on signing Kaka then?

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

Has 'Arry had a go?

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

They couldn't afford Diarra's wages so have been forced to go for a cheaper option obviously.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

lol

ONE WORD: KAKA

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

surely bolton have to sell cahil

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

arry's about to 'ave a word out his car window

no wait he's adjusting his seatbelt

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

"we tried to sign a big one but 'e got away"

no cahill

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

bah no cahill means pulling the plug on bassong to us

fucknuts

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

god this is so fucking stupid

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

redknapp in his element

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

levy's on the blower

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

lol baby mongs at stoke training ground

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea midfielder Yossi Benayoun, wanted by Arsenal and Liverpool, on Twitter: "Staying in London...will sign soon ... I will twitt when it happens."

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

crouch "in a closed room with tony pulis" atm

sounds threatening

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

levy rejected 40m for modric yesterday

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

fackin' 'ell

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

What the fuck? Kaka? Actual proper Kaka? Has the world gone mad?

Or is Levy going to try and tie up Kaka for £20m before selling Modders to Chelsea for £40m? That would be lol.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

spurs only interested in fat players

8-2 fruity (cozen), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

Kaka, Thudd, Fat Pig Kranjcar would be one hell of a midfield. Stick Lampard in there as well.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, the Kaka thing is bollocks apparently. As you were.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

easy possession, the ball would keep running towards them xp

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

Are Man City going to play Tevez now or is he going to spend the whole season on the bench behind Dzeko and Aguero? Not that you could blame Mancini for that obviously.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

The last two hours of Wengerball btw?

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

arteta back on

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

Honestly if Arsenal can't be bothered to stump up more than £10m for Everton's best player...

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

nicklas bendtner used to fuck steve bruce's daughter

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

not bidding for baines iirc xp

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

Wilshere's ever so excited.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

xp SSN saying the 10m fee for Arteta was agreed between the clubs, but was the personal terms where the deal broke down earlier

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

lol jason puncheon running into loftus road

fucks sake

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

disappointingly small and halfassed coterie of mongs at qpr

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

stoke outbid us for them

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal have the most decorous and polite mong corps

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

EXTRAORDINARY PICTURES OF PETER CROUCH INSIDE STOKE'S TRAINING GROUND

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

heating up now.

Expect us to get cahill for maybe 10m before close

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

arteta has asked to leave but not made a transfer request

Shoot him. In the face.

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

Arteta although believed to be right footed has himself said that he considers his left foot to be the stronger more dominant weapon in his arsenal.[citation needed]

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

Six years at a club and he asks to be sold (but retain loyalty bonus) two hours before deadline closes. Classy.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

oh don't be so holier-than-thou

it's not like that will be news to everton, just making sure it goes through.....

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

Wilshere's on Twitter cheerleading the Arteta deal, metaphorically forcing an Arsenal shirt over the Spanish playmaker's head, etc

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

yakubu looks a bit less bloated than usual

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal's behaviour over the transfer of the spanish international bridesmaid has been appalling

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

Arteta really isn't that good though is he?

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

ya was just saying to pmac for a fat cunt yakubu looking p sharp

Hutton sold or lent?

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

arteta is tidy, very tidy. Underrated now for some reason, had injuries tbf but i'd rate him.

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

He is good, but a trade-up over Fabregas he is definitely not. Same with Yossi and Nasri. This is patching up the hull stuff.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

bendtner to sundlund

Perfect

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

Arteta was one of those widely rated "underrated" players a few years back.

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

think he's gone from an overrated underrated player to an underrated overrated one

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

Arteta for England iirc. I'd've given him a go until Wilshere emerged, personally.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

yeah ismael, but having sold all of their best players patching up is probably not a bad idea with an hour left?

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

"y'know who the real best player in the world is? Iniesta.

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

this cunt at the arsenal ground is some cunt

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool have the rowdiest mongs

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal have a dwarf jonjo shelvey mong tho

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

as arry told cahill to sit tight til jan free transfer i wonder

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

JackWilshere Jack Wilshere
The funniest #DeadLineDay joke I got today was #Kaka to spurs haha #beserious

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

hope that liverpool reporter has his wallet given to someone else

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

It's after the watershed Sky, i think we can handle some bad language

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

they're cheering crouch the poor deluded cunts

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

having sold all of their best players patching up is probably not a bad idea with an hour left?

Fair point, it's not like the lack of any conceivable strategy is news to anyone I guess. What are they going to look like tomorrow though? Everton without the drive, and van injury as Saha.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

look at those nice spurs lads

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

fuckin hell we sold hutton for 4m

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

wtf are everton looking like

Moyes will be eating puppies for breakfast

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

fuckin hell you bought him for 9m*!

*not really

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

arry is gutted fuckin gutted luka wasn't sold

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs have done really well today in a less is more way.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs have done brilliantly, facing down £40m for Modric. Now to ease Redknapp out and get X* in.

* I dunno who X is

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

Real Zaragoza sign Sporting Lisbon's Helder Postiga for €1 million

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

i make that parker + 13m profit for spuds today?

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

Plus all the wages they were shelling out. Although if you look at it another way thy paid £12m for Palacios and sold him for £6m. Don't know what the Crouch differential is.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

since crouch & hutton were just debts called in levy's just about broken even probably

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

How are you feeling about qpr r/t/c? Didn't get the centre back you wanted but do you think you've a fighting chance of staying up now?

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

rangers have monged up i see, well done lads

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

louissaha08 louis saha
Aaaaaaaaaaaaah. What is going on???

Think Crouch was about £7m and Palacios £11m so if we sold Palacios for six and can get ten for Crouch, we're almost even.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

good day for spurs.

Still think there'll be a cb announced.

If not, and I'll regret this, but enforced playing of kaboul/bassong might well be the making of them.

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

does wenger do all his christmas shopping on christmas eve?

8-2 fruity (cozen), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

crouch and palacios bought as form players, sold as decidedly not.

18m is
Incredible

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

Shit, Meireles has submitted a transfer request.

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

!

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

Can someone give me a brief summary of confirmed transfers?

Manchester United 8 (EIGHT) Arsenal 2 (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

spurs out

Hutton 4m to villa
Jenas loan to villa
Palacios 18m to stoke
Crouch free to stoke
Bentley loan to west ham

Parker 5m from west ham

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

can hopefully hold on to raul for the next 27 minutes.

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

NBS

Per Mertesacker, Werder Bremen to Arsenal, £7.6m

David Ngog, Liverpool to Bolton, undisclosed

Gael Kakuta, Chelsea to Bolton, six-month loan

Owen Hargreaves, unattached to Manchester City

Patrick van Aanholt, Chelsea to Wigan, season-long loan

Scott Parker, West Ham to Tottenham, £6m

David Bentley, Tottenham to West Ham, loan

André Santos, Fenerbahce to Arsenal, £6.2m

Joe Cole, Liverpool to Lille, season-long loan

Christian Poulsen, Liverpool to Evian, undisclosed

Palacios, Spurs to Stoke, £6m

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

18 m??? that can't be right

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

I really don't blame him.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

basically nae cunt that's any cunt has moved

8-2 fruity (cozen), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

creative accounting

Palacios 18m to stoke
Crouch free to stoke

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

Yossi to Arsenal on loan confirmed according to Guardian

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

Cheers, lads.

Owen Hargreaves, unattached to Manchester City
Does this mean there'll be another wave of those 'Welcome to Manchester' posters?

Manchester United 8 (EIGHT) Arsenal 2 (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

welcome to manchester... general

8-2 fruity (cozen), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

http://p.twimg.com/AYGrGw9CAAIllEP.jpg

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

get photoshopping

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

ha xp

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

Yossi's confirmed it himself, in his rubbish English.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

How are you feeling about qpr r/t/c? Didn't get the centre back you wanted but do you think you've a fighting chance of staying up now?

― pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:23 (1 minute ago) Bookmark

umm well, you could say we've improved a dire squad but then it's still ferdinand & gabbidon (& traore) at the back who already went down once with west ham. traore, swp, & puncheon add sorely needed pace. barton adds something or other. there's a lot of question marks there, a lot of players i wouldnt want to be relying on, and i don't know really. we'll still be around the relegation zone but hopefully now not so far adrift that further planned reinforcements come january won't solve the worries.

wouldnt say i was disappointed though since flavio and bernie left us with too much to do too late and the bassong thing couldnt be helped. thought we'd get crouch (shocked with that tbh), think we should have gone for dann/onuoha/ridgewell.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

So is a medical not a real requirement for deadline day transfers then? Cos I thought Meireles was crocked at the moment.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe he has a youtube video of himself exercising. Hope he can upload it in time.

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

xxp and of course ferdinand & puncheon are still likely but not confirmed, so.... might get worse.

swp is confirmed by the looks of it

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

The Secret Footballer reckons they just pay a local doctor to give a cursory once-over, depending how much time is left.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

everton making late dash for onuoha now

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

With Barton I could see him getting frustrated with the inadequacy surrounding him especially now that he's in his 'prime' and going into a tailspin. Equally he could enjoy being the lynchpin of the whole team and rise to the occasion as a galvinating force. Of course it's as likely that neither of those narratives will happen and he'll just be a pretty good player playing pretty well for a not v good team.
xps

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

medicals can be done after the deadline cf arshavin

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

Was Sneijder to Man Utd in the balance the whole window then? No other reason for him to be confirming he's staying at Inter now. United have been pretty classy this summer I must say.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

Palacios is 6m
Crouch I think 8m or so?

some people will be glad to see Jenas gone

Parker is 5.5m or 6m

wonder who we have left after such a clear-out

hope Levy's happy at the new-look wage bill

the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

Ruiz to Fulham confirmed?

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

Rangers have rejected a late £9m offer for striker Nikica Jelavic after receiving a call from an agent who refused to say what club he was representing

This can't be normal?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

Rangers being able to turn down £9m?

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

Bellamy back at LFC.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

Dunno what went on with Sneijder really

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

pinefox- few enough of those players played any games last year, and those who did were replaced by better this window.

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

Rangers story sounds like bullshit - trying to look good "we failed to spend our non-existent £15m WARCHEST but hey we kept our best player in spite of a HUGE OFFER FROM NO CUNT!"

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

Hearing whispers elsewhere on the internets that the club in for Jelavic was Rubin Kazan, but I completely refuse to believe any of it as anything other than Craig Whyte spinning shite again.

xpost

ailsa, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

why do LFC need bellamy? in the ngog role? has he taken a pay cut?

8-2 fruity (cozen), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

benayoun to arsenal on loan

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal gotta bid for meirelles

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

Bellamy is meant to sub for suarez when suarez is rested surely?

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

great plan

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

thought they had more strikers than suarez, carroll, kuyt and downing

8-2 fruity (cozen), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

If Meireles goes is that all our signings from last Summer disappeared?

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

Trying to erase the Hodgson Era from existence.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

Last year never happened, is that what the strategy's been all along?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

Brad Jones is still here.

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

Meireles though, his timing's terrible.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea have bid £12m.

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

That's that then.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

I thought we got rid of him when we got Doni? My mistake.
xp

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

Oh no, too late!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

the request is surely just pr for the club selling a good player. why else would they bang it on their website at 2230

rtc incorrect above tho, you can't do medicals after the deadline anymore.

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

I'm starting to feel like a senile old man. Skimming through this thread, when I saw mentions of 'Parker' I instantly thought of Paul Parker. Bellamy to Liverpool is sending me into confusion - I feel like he used to play for Liverpool, but I associate him with so many different clubs I can't remember what's real and what's imagined.

Prejudice Capsule Hamster (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

crouch price
12m
Incredible

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

if only he'd put his request in with 29 mins to go

8-2 fruity (cozen), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

No, Jones is still here.

So Raul stays?

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

meireles >>>> adam

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

Hearing that Meireles to Chelsea is a done deal.

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

nah he'll be gone surely, they just haven't spoken to press yet. we are fucking morons for selling him, what value is 12m to sell a good player to a potential rival. furious.

xpost

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

yup, mental to let meireles go

expect pics of your bloody stump asap ro

8-2 fruity (cozen), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

Meireles deal must've been done already, ronan's right. Sad to lose him, I hope he gets treated better at Chelsea.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

ah now

'potential rival'

Tbf, ye didn't sell to us or arsenal

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

Meireles deal must've been done already, ronan's right. Sad to lose him, I hope he gets treated better at Chelsea.

― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 23:04 (20 seconds ago)

do u think has been that badly treated?

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

You know how Man City have been accused of signing up loads of players just to stop other people signing them? Well, if you *could* postpone the medicals until after transfer deadline day, and then cancel the transfer on the basis of a failed medical, you might just about be able to manufacture a situation where you 'signed' every top target of your rivals with money that you didn't have, only for them all to mysteriously 'fail' the medical once the deadline was safely out of the way, you pay nothing and none of your rivals gets the players they wanted.

I doubt you could get away with this for very long, though.

Prejudice Capsule Hamster (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

Not personally, but undeniably and unjustly snubbed. We were selling him at a loss 'til the last minute ffs.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

Gutted about meireles. Rate him only behind Suarez and Downing out of all our signings of last couple of years. Will make Chelsea better. Fuck!

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

just seems v strange that so much hyped BRITISH PRODUCT is bought at inflated prices and meireles sold at cost after a good season

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

still not confirmed but must be DONE

8-2 fruity (cozen), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

my hand amputation bet was if we swapped meireles for benayoun. my right hand remains safe thanks be to god, not least at this time of night.

xpost yeah i can't get how meireles is only worth 12m. he changed the game at arsenal. it really takes the sheen off a good summer of spending for liverpool

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

dowie feels sorry for arry spurs ave lost crouchy, we really needed cahill to replace him

Sundlund confirm year loan of bendtner. Good work

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

Sunderland have Hutton in on full transfer and Jenas on loan. Put Brucey on your Christmas card list Darragh.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

He's a little bit wimpy, that's all I'll say against him, but it's not like that wouldn't have been covered and he'd really suit our midfield as it's shaping up.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

PAPERWORK DRAMA AT STOKE

ffs

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

Something to with FSG not wanting to give Raul that pay rise?

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

I thought they'd gone to villa?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

*to do

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

meirelles deal comfirmed

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

pandemic that's villa

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

qpr signed ferdinand jr apparently

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

oh my mistake
xp

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

That's Chelsea off the hate list officially. I need a new devil's club, thinking about targeting West Brom.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/5yYnm.png

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

Wow, we just turned down FORTY MILLION POUNDS for a player who hates us and will be sulky and underwhelming all season.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

If Chelsea had kept Yossi that would have been 4 ex Pool players I could have supported.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

fuckim. Delighted we took the stand tbh. Delighted tevez looks to be on his arse til jan too.

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

talk that it was 15m for meireles on bbc, would make it a bit more palatable. henderson at least played well on saturday and i suppose can be deployed on the wing. still.

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

What a last half hour that was!

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

oops no they say 12m now.

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

Aye, €15m / £12-13m

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

have been out for a couple hours but have read thread:

1. wenger has 3 years left.
2. bellemy did indeed play for liverpool. remember the golf club incident.
3. if chelsea get meireles then that is a good signing imo and liverpool have fucked up. not that they care, they have jordan henderson.
4. really excited to see kakuta at bolton. hope he lives up to the hype. seems like forever since he was the new henry.
5. has no-one bought cahill? surely getting 12m is more important to bolton than a year of a decent player they already bought a replacement for (wheater lol).
6. hope bendtner has a trific season.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, and Philipp Degen's contract has been cancelled.

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago)

bellemy did indeed play for liverpool. remember the golf club incident.

Kind of, but it's all getting mixed up with Joey Barton beating up his team mate and stuff.

Prejudice Capsule Hamster (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago)

Another in LFC's line of free transfers who turn out to be shit;see Voronin, Jovanovic, Cole

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

xp

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

Bellamy scored in a victory at the Nou Camp! Never forget.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

drenthe to everton done

8-2 fruity (cozen), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

i think bellamy could be good now we don't have rafa mind-raking anyone who isn't one of the three/four players he trusts.

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

genuinely can't get my head around the meireles sale. to alienate one first class midfielder for no obvious reason is careless, to do it again only a couple of years later is perverse.

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

bellamy has seemed fine attitude wise at his last three clubs tbh

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

I like Belle Amie.

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

blackburn scott dann fee 7.7m. they dropping ryan nelsen then?

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

Rafa and Bellamy got on fine, but we needed to sell him to fund the Torres deal.

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

genuinely can't get my head around the meireles sale. to alienate one first class midfielder for no obvious reason is careless, to do it again only a couple of years later is perverse.

― second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 23:28 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

Sissoko?

Nelson is 33 and Samba's contract is coming up next year or in 2 iirc, so Dann is a good signing imo.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

Apparently Meireles to Chelsea was done at 9pm.

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

The publication of the transfer request was clearly a propaganda move

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

yeah not too pleased about meireles going. apparently he was looking for a pay rise?

Michael B, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

2325: DONE DEALS
A double deal by Aston Villa to tell you about. They captured Tottenham midfielder Jermaine Jenas on a season-long loan and have also brought in his Spurs team-mate Alan Hutton in a permanent move, with the Scot signing until 2015.

what does our resident villa fan think? you signed (scottish) cafu!

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

xpost yeah definite propaganda, said that upthread. the pay rise thing is mystifying too, if you can afford 60m quid in transfers we can surely afford to keep meireles. unless he was asking for really huge wages. i guess if they aren't going to play him maybe they thought they should cash in. but i'd rather meireles in that team than gerrard. ah well....overall pool have done well in the window.

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

loooooooooooooooool

Jenas could be a good signing tho, depends on his head

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

Alex McLeish is the only person in the world who actually rates Hutton, right?

ailsa, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

xposts. Was promised a pay rise by the previous owners, but don't think it was in writing. One person reckons he was on 35k/wk and that this was due to rise to 70k/wk.

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

"Jermaine Jenas is a dynamic midfielder"
Hutton is merely "athletic" and "experienced"

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

Crouch was £10m apparently. Still, good business for Spurs there.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

iain dowie spouting off lovingly about stoke, says "this puts them eighth, ninth, so you know, massive jump there". stoke finished 11th last season.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

hutton and jenas are tactically crap but both have some talent, unlike bentley

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

propaganda maybe but would like to know did he hand one in or not? multiple xp re raul.

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

drenthe & baines should be fun times on the left for everton

scuttling up and down trying to bounce crosses off victor anichebe's head into goal

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

he handed one in, i'd say, but he was prob told he'd have to to finalise deal or something like that

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

Made him submit a written request so they didn't have to pay him any compensation?

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

maybe? I don't believe for a second that it happened in the timeline it became public, and if the deal was done at 9pm there shouldn't have been any onus on him to submit a request any more than the other 95% of players do.

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

^^this is what i don't get. compensation for what? if the player wants to leave does he have to hand in a transfer request in order to nullify his contract and if not can he say "i want to leave but you're still paying me"? in which case why doesn't every transfer come with a 'transfer request' attached #tiredandconfused

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

arteta is official btw

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

afaict, a player is entitled to a 'loyalty fee' (taken to be around 10% of fee i think) if they don't request a transfer in writing. They can do pretty much everything else they want cf fabregas yet still qualify for this payment.

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

rotten fuckers

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

Is this true?

@BrianDurand56 Apart from Xabi's goal in '08 (& that was given as OG by PL), every LFC scorer in last 8 lge games btwn LFC & CFC has been signed by Chelsea

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

fuckin hell, maybe

Be fair, they did let ye have j cole tho

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 23:20 (thirteen years ago)

is that just torres and meirelles tho? Benayoun too?

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 23:21 (thirteen years ago)

19/08/07 LFC 1-1 Chelsea - Torres
10/02/08 Chelsea 0-0 LFC
26/10/08 Chelsea 0-1 LFC - Alonso
01/02/09 LFC 2-0 Chelsea - Torres x2
04/10/09 Chelsea 2-0 LFC
02/05/10 LFC 0-2 Chelsea
07/11/10 LFC 2-0 Chelsea - Torres x2
06/02/11 Chelsea 0-1 LFC - Meireles

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 23:26 (thirteen years ago)

dmac on fb-
'going rate for spurs deadwood about £1m per stone'
Rejoinder-
'should have sold huddlestone then'

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 23:28 (thirteen years ago)

So two players, not as startling put that way. Still a hefty sum from Roman to Liverpool though, better investor than G&H

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

So do I want Suarez to score in the next one or not?

Chris, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago)

judging by the prices you've been gettin, yeah

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

BBC 5 live's Juliette Ferrington on Twitter: "Hearing that when Crouch arrived here tonight the first thing he had was a curry in the Stoke City canteen."

r|t|c, Thursday, 1 September 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago)

Joey7Barton Joseph Barton
@barciur what happened to Hazard? He's a player, an Arsenal player in the making I thought
11 minutes ago

lol

r|t|c, Thursday, 1 September 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago)

Joey7Barton Joseph Barton
@Penneyboy @piersmorgan Nasri and fabregas replaced with Benayoun and Arteta?? I wouldn't of done that on FM2010, that's all am saying
37 minutes ago

r|t|c, Thursday, 1 September 2011 00:12 (thirteen years ago)

ice cold

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 00:50 (thirteen years ago)

So Bolton wanted Defoe as part of the Cahill deal but were offered Bassong or Bentley

Number None, Thursday, 1 September 2011 02:24 (thirteen years ago)

good job Owen.

Gukbe, Thursday, 1 September 2011 02:53 (thirteen years ago)

Am I misreading to think this from Paul Hayward in the Guardian as a nasty little swipe which he has no evidence for?

Against the trend of long-term planning City took a late gamble on Owen Hargreaves, whose return to full fitness seems to have coincided with his Manchester United contract not being renewed

pandemic, Thursday, 1 September 2011 06:20 (thirteen years ago)

?

What's not factual there?

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 06:51 (thirteen years ago)

factual but the implication is - and I think this is commonly understood - man city see it as a delicious prospect that hargreaves may get fit and run a sav in the prem, just after noisy neighbours man utd dropped him as useless

8-2 fruity (cozen), Thursday, 1 September 2011 06:54 (thirteen years ago)

what's not factual?

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 06:56 (thirteen years ago)

I thought the implication was that he only bothered to get fit when his contract ran out, and had been shirking up until then. But I admit I may be misreading it.

pandemic, Thursday, 1 September 2011 07:15 (thirteen years ago)

It may be that I read most Guardian pieces in a sarcastic tone of voice.

pandemic, Thursday, 1 September 2011 07:16 (thirteen years ago)

aloud?

Prejudice Capsule Hamster (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 1 September 2011 07:24 (thirteen years ago)

that's my reading tbh

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 07:24 (thirteen years ago)

What can we expect from Meireles, Liverpool fans? Not sure where he'll fit in, possibly replacement for Frank. Or deeper, as a non-tackling more attacking Mikel?

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Thursday, 1 September 2011 07:36 (thirteen years ago)

the latter, maybe? Or on right too?

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 07:39 (thirteen years ago)

Good player Pete, you've done well. I think it's the Lampard one myself - he started out deep but really started clicking through making runs arriving in support of the attack. If he's there to do a Modric job, though, that won't work, he can't dictate things on his own.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 September 2011 07:48 (thirteen years ago)

the hitler role

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 07:49 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah definitely closer to Lampard than Mikel. Will score goals (though not in Frank quantities) and create a fair few (think he and Mata/Torres could get a good understanding going). Isn't a liability defensively but more in the closing down, tracking back sense rather than anything so vulgar as tackling. Think you've got a good player. Having said all that not sure why you guys would prefer loan out Yossi rather than play him now and again.

pandemic, Thursday, 1 September 2011 08:25 (thirteen years ago)

Arteta "past it" according to the Nult on Radio 5 last night

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 08:45 (thirteen years ago)

Quite possibly. Of the "big" premiership names Arsenal were linked with, I'm least excited by the two that have arrived.

The Bendtner deal seems like a good one for all concerned though.

Upt0eleven, Thursday, 1 September 2011 08:51 (thirteen years ago)

They let Nulty on the radio now!! Madness! Although now I'm intrigued, is his speech as *ahem* idiosyncratic as his copy?

pandemic, Thursday, 1 September 2011 08:53 (thirteen years ago)

Think it's a CL squad limit thing, we could only have one player and Meireles is a long-term option over Benayoun (and also a better player).

CFC squad looks pretty strong and well-balanced now, maybe even stronger man-for-man than MUFC, though think they have the better first team. Still think it'll take a while for us to click though and have concerns about the high defensive line.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Thursday, 1 September 2011 08:55 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't notice him saying anything too Nultesque, he's up against with Robbie Savage (not literally, that would be horrible) et al remember. Slight Merseyside accent? Where is he from? (xp)

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 08:56 (thirteen years ago)

what does our resident villa fan think? you signed (scottish) cafu!

I'd rather have just not sold Luke Young. Having sold Luke Young I guess it's better than just not getting anyone in and excitably waiting for Carlos Cuellar's return to fitness. High praise.

I guess Jenas is another mercurial maybe-useful midfielder to add to the pile with Stephen and Fabian

JeanDeux Makoun's gone on loan to Olympiakos, heartbreakingly. The Guardian chalkboard for his Villa debut was this beautiful multipronged asterisk of completed passes in every direction imaginable, the likes of which Villa Park had never seen since I dunno Merse or some shit, but alas he was a bit off the pace and mental in the tackle

MPx4A, Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:01 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I think Arteta was fantastic for Everton for four or five years but the last year or so he's been below par. Injuries haven't helped. Everton have had a horrible transfer window, but losing Arteta is better than losing Tim Cahill IMO.

Chelsea's midfield still looks like it's lacking something even with Mereiles in there, although Mata could turn out to be brilliant. There's also the striker problem - dunno, I still think they'll struggle to compete against the two Manchester teams. As far as replacing Mourinho's team goes they're slowly getting there though. The squad still doesn't have as much strength in depth as United's (except upfront), could do with more decent defensive options. Chelsea players who aren't Essien never seem to get injured though.

Reckon Jenas will do pretty well at Villa.

Matt DC, Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:03 (thirteen years ago)

Was trying to work out Dann's impact at Blackburn, he seems sort of an absurdly good signing for them - my friend suggested he might be enough to superhumanly propel them up a place in the final league standings, ie 19th

MPx4A, Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:05 (thirteen years ago)

Did they keep hold of Samba after all that? If so, that's too good a defence to go down.

Matt DC, Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:12 (thirteen years ago)

Birmingham had a good defence too

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:12 (thirteen years ago)

In fact, they had a good team all round

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:13 (thirteen years ago)

:D

MPx4A, Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:15 (thirteen years ago)

Blues' defence was good on paper and had been good the season before, but then it like, stopped playing well and conceded lots of goals

MPx4A, Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:15 (thirteen years ago)

So I blame McLeish, the current Aston Villa manager

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:16 (thirteen years ago)

having enough attacking aptitude to keep the ball away from your defence for a few minutes at a time is gonna make the defence look better; personally hoping that Villa hoofing the ball several hundred feet over Jermaine Jenas' head works better than Blues hoofing the ball several hundred feet over Aliaksandr Hleb's head

Where this leaves Blackburn not entirely sure, but they have seemed fairly superhumanly determined to not score goals

MPx4A, Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:24 (thirteen years ago)

chelsea still lacking width in midfield but that's been true for years. Lampard, drogba, malouda et all battering through defences helps in that regard i guess.

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:27 (thirteen years ago)

Malouda has width. Mata too.

Matt DC, Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:29 (thirteen years ago)

CFC squad looks pretty strong and well-balanced now, maybe even stronger man-for-man than MUFC, though think they have the better first team. Still think it'll take a while for us to click though and have concerns about the high defensive line.

― isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Thursday, September 1, 2011 8:55 AM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah, Porto played suicidally high line at times and not sure at all that this will suit Chelsea. Fair enough the full backs are quick, but I just think it will lead to a couple too many easy chances presented per game against teams who otherwise wouldn't be good enough to break Chelsea down.

pandemic, Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:30 (thirteen years ago)

U KNOW FRNAK LAMPARD GOTS SOME WIDTH

MPx4A, Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:32 (thirteen years ago)

malouda starts wide but goes straight for goal afaict

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:33 (thirteen years ago)

malouda nor anelka not really wingers, so we've not played real wide players since Duff/Robben. Not sure Mata really counts, he looks like he'll be allowed to float. But there's a lot more zip about with Mata, Sturridge (who should get a lot of games I hope) and Lukuka, and Ramires and Meireles move the ball quicker, which has been our biggest problem whenever Mikel-Lampard-Malouda-Anelka all start.

The highline really doesn't suit Terry or Mikel, may work better with Luiz, but he's a bit unpredictable in other areas. Looking forward to Cech coming back. Terry is going to be exposed badly if we keep this up, and seems ridiculous to play against the strengths of our best defender.

But glad to see us finally bringing in players at 18-26 range. shame it's taken so long.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:46 (thirteen years ago)

blackburn seem like they might be kinda dece - samba/dann, and hoilett/olsson on the wings, goodwillie looks sharp albeit needing a bigger partner - but their season will rest on how well the slavic lads and formica shape up in the middle. from what i've heard though the fans have no faith in kean and want him out by yesterday.

r|t|c, Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:47 (thirteen years ago)

Sturridge (who should get a lot of games I hope)

Sturridge hasn't gone from Chelsea

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:47 (thirteen years ago)

i could see an awkward period at chelsea where everyone secretly realises that sturridge-lukaku is the most effective strike combo

r|t|c, Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:53 (thirteen years ago)

xp I was looking at odds yesterday for 'first manager to go' to see if Redknapp might be worth a punt, but he's already come in to 12/1. Kean is ridiculously short odds at 4/7 or something, miles ahead of even Wenger.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:00 (thirteen years ago)

tom, nult is an everton fan so no surprise he feels scorn, although some surprise that he managed to coherently express it

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:14 (thirteen years ago)

*scored*

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:16 (thirteen years ago)

Anyone notice Keown doing some heavy Nultying on the BBC website yesterday?

Matt DC, Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:17 (thirteen years ago)

I suppose that fits in with his usual "say nothing in a way that sounds intelligent to idiots" schtick.

Matt DC, Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:17 (thirteen years ago)

lol ok u know what i mean even if i will have expressed it incoherently via controversial ios based device iphone

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:18 (thirteen years ago)

Ha yeah, I did! xp His closing line was a peach, something like: "For now, Modric, Tevez and Sneijder will be staying where they are - at Spurs, Man City and Inter respectively."

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:20 (thirteen years ago)

keowns daily mail columns are full of nonsequiturs and weird prescriptions for arsenal -- recommending he buy upson to get some pace in defence

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:20 (thirteen years ago)

so on balance i would advise against spending yr time reading keown in the daily mail

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:21 (thirteen years ago)

keown in

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:28 (thirteen years ago)

tom, nult is an everton fan

Ah yeah, that figures, pretty sure the newspaper guy (Andy something) in the studio on Radio 5 last night was an Everton fan too

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

Is there any way Everton's (relative) decline can be arrested? They're a popular club, decent ground, big local support, famous old name, lots of past success, doing about as well as they reasonably can - yet are miles behind the top six in clout, and not catching up even slightly.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:32 (thirteen years ago)

I think hovering around under the big three and the next biggest three is about as good as they can hope for. A successful season would = finishing above Stoke imo.

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:35 (thirteen years ago)

notts forest? xp

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago)

what do the hedz make of jol's acquisition of ruiz and orlando sa? from my vantage point it seems a little strange to add two strikers to a team that already features zamora, dembele and AJ.. i guess the latter two haven't really lived up to the billing in terms of classy finishes and AJ in particular is possibly now better suited as a playmaker?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:40 (thirteen years ago)

Everton are holding themselves together remarkably well considering they've had limited financial means for years - I really don't think they have much room for maneuvre on transfers although the youth system is good. Without Moyes they might have been relegated years ago. Dunno how they move on/up unless Kenwright finds a buyer and as we all know that's not necessarily a recipe for success.

Matt DC, Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:41 (thirteen years ago)

to an extent i think everton could embrace their situation more than they do - become like an english udinese and keep the conveyor belt rolling rather than moving heaven and earth to cling onto players that do well and grow stale (arteta not at his best and injured the past few seasons but on a 75k a week contract and treated as some sort of talisman). obv it's a lot riskier than what they do now - and they don't have the luxury of udinese's capabilities in south america - but it's go to be better than grim decaying stasis.

r|t|c, Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe they're hanging on till everyone else's money runs out and off and grim decaying stasis is the norm

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:49 (thirteen years ago)

i mean really, they've needed a striker for so long, just snap out of it and sell someone. as if you can't replace phil jagielka for less than 12m?

r|t|c, Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:50 (thirteen years ago)

They're running at an unsustainable loss at the moment. The Arteta (and possible future Jagielka) money would probably go on servicing debt rather than another striker.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:00 (thirteen years ago)

Also it's just occurred to me that Bolton will end up selling Cahill for less than £10m in the summer - it's either that or let him go for free. Kinda short-sighted.

Matt DC, Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:08 (thirteen years ago)

Tracer - I think Fulham's most pressing need was frwd/attacking players. They have solid, if unspectacular, players at the back imo. Good enough that it's not like they need to score 3 to win a game, just a bit more quality so that they can grab a goal or two often enough to turn draws into wins. Think AJ is done.

pandemic, Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

uhm cahill has 1yr left on contract so it's either sell for max £5m ish in january or nothing next summer

gartside is a fat fucking nudnik tho

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:12 (thirteen years ago)

How much is each position in the league worth? If Bolton think Cahill will get them 3 or 4 places higher don't know how that plays out financially? Of course if they think Cahill is the difference between mid table and a relegation dogfight then they did the right thing imo

pandemic, Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:12 (thirteen years ago)

three or four places is only a few mil difference

they have enough to escape relegation even without him

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:13 (thirteen years ago)

They could've sold him way earlier in the summer and found a replacement, Bolton seem to have some pretty good talent scouts working for them.

Matt DC, Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

Surely a successful season for Everton is staying up? Not even joking.

Chris, Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

id guess city thought they were going to sell cahill when they leant them boyata

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

thanks pandemic

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

I'm excited to see Ruiz play for fulham. heard good things. Anyone seen him play much?

spellcheck is really advanced these days (cajunsunday), Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:26 (thirteen years ago)

If LBI is about today he can give you the run down on Ruiz. I was under the impression he was a left winger/forward but I may be wrong.

pandemic, Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

think fulham added the right amont of attacking flair- agree that anything you get out of aj at this stage is a bonus

Everton are winding down to a shell company holding only two assets, epl position and the brand name. I don't know if there's even a buyer out there, but kenwright doesn't seem to have any plans beyond stripping the football side to pay for ?????

Moyes and youth will keep them up, probably perpetually.

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

Wesley admitting he though he would sign for Utd :(

Number None, Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

I was never really clear if Villa had put in any kind of sell-on clause when they sold Cahill to Bolton for not much; it might have a bearing on Bolton looking at Derisory Offers and thinking screw it, we'll just keep him

Coyle seemed totally at peace with the idea that they would sell Cahill when the time came, I don't know why they're bothering to be so stubborn about it

MPx4A, Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

bolton turning down 15m for cahill in last year vs spurs turning down 40m for modric with 4 years contract

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:39 (thirteen years ago)

I am around, and pandemic is right. Seen him play for Twente two seasons. He was bought when Schteve Mclaren was manager and it became his breakthrough season, winning the league with Twente and becoming top-scorer with 24 goals. Second year he had some injures and didn't play a lot.
He's an allround attacker but plays best as a right-winger. He loves cutting through to the penalty box to score beautiful goals (his goals/beautiful goals ratio is high). Can't really name any weaknesses.

What else? Oh, his nickname is "La Comadreja", the weasel. And even though his last name is Ruiz, he wants to play with "Bryan" on his shirt, because Ruiz is his father's name, and his father bailed on his family when he was a toddler.

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:42 (thirteen years ago)

bringin it like fed-ex!

COME ON BRYAN!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

Nice. Very nice.

spellcheck is really advanced these days (cajunsunday), Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

if jol weren't manager fulham prob looking good for top eight tbh.

Squad still quite small, though.

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

yeah

i thought people liked jol - or is it that he's a likeable loser

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

.......

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

genuinely did not anticipate a delay in answering that tbh

Tracer,

Martin Jol is the devil. He is the devil. He is a terrible man for the tactical naivety and unchanged unmotivated team selection. He wasted the best three years of my life the bastard and took the goid china when he left. He talked about me behind my back and Irene from the office swears he made a move on her one christmas. He drowns puppies, votes conservative and hates freedom.

He is the devil.

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

Pretty surprised no one took Macheda or Diouf on loan from Utd. Thought one of Fergie's acolytes would 'ave 'ad a go.

Number None, Thursday, 1 September 2011 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

Macheda was offered to Newcastlol but something went tits up with the deal late on.

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Thursday, 1 September 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

he's crap anyway

r|t|c, Thursday, 1 September 2011 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

true

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah probably, but it's still surprising.

Number None, Thursday, 1 September 2011 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

didn't he score a goal once, though?

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

Heady days. Watched that game in a pub in Leeds full of glowering Yorkshiremen, was difficult to keep my celebrations to a minimum.

Number None, Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

Excited by Bryan! Jol will hopefully make Fulham an attacking force, even if deems hates him.

Are Chelsea just going to play a messy diamond with Ramires and Bos patrolling up the right?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

Craig Bellamy has said that he could not resist the opportunity to sign for boyhood hero Kenny Dalglish.

"For me, the players they've signed this summer, there has been a lot of British which takes me back to when I started watching Liverpool. It looks so familiar to me and to be part of it is such a huge honour."

r|t|c, Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

a lot of british

r|t|c, Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

i don't hate jol, my therapist thinks part of me still loves him.

But i can never give him control over me again, i know that now.

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

surprised no one's dislodged kuyt from the coveted 18 shirt yet

r|t|c, Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

"It looks so familiar to me"

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

michael cox wrote a thing claiming that AVB was glad to get rid of Meireles at Porto.
also didn't even notice that everton signed the excellently named Denis Stracqualursi, 13 letters to add to Bilyaletdinov, which is also 13.
what's the longest name in the prem?

mizzell, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

whogivesafuckaboutcameronjerome

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

alex ox c?

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

Oxlade-Chamberlain?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

the very same

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

Gazumped by typing it out in full. Lament for Jan V o'H.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

wouldnt it be great if we could solve such conundra without some fuck searching thru past guardian knowledge columns

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

just consult the ilx cloud

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

what happened to j v of h

no more wikiing either ;_;

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

He's now vice-president at Exxon I gather.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

For some reason I always think of him as Jan Vennegoor of Heffelump.

Kreayshawnism should be taught alongside evolushawn (Michael White), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

In March 2006 he was diagnosed with shaving rash, putting an end to his season. The timing was especially unfortunate for Parker, who had been playing well for Newcastle, as it ended any hopes he may have had of forcing his way into James Dixon's love-den.

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

Scott Parker was found to be the second best dars player in the country for December 2006 by Sky Sports and Opta Index. He led Newcastle on their way to UEFA Intertoto Cup victory and was presented with the Intertoto Cup plaque in March 2007 before the UEFA Cup first leg tie with AZ, wjich Newcastle won with a thrilling three dart finish.

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

surprised no one's dislodged kuyt from the coveted 18 shirt yet

weren't qpr actually done for racist chants a few year's back? believe they were in a giant glasshouse throwing stones at ian wright

LocalGarda, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

few years back even...

LocalGarda, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

what happened to j v of h

no more wikiing either ;_;

― diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, September 1, 2011 5:35 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

He was in the running for the pinchhitter role at ADO Den Haag, but it fell through ;_;

A free man now

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

iirc, he went to Rapid Vienna, but no idea how that went or whether he's still there (in the spirit of not just googling stuff).

ailsa, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

back in his castle in hesselink

LocalGarda, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

No, he left Vienna

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

surprised no one's dislodged kuyt from the coveted 18 shirt yet

weren't qpr actually done for racist chants a few year's back? believe they were in a giant glasshouse throwing stones at ian wright

― LocalGarda, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:01 (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

is it ok if i am confused by all this? does kuyt get racist chants? is he a racist? what? does 18 as a shirt number mean something? is this an injoke i dont get?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

The gag is that Liverpool are the racists as they have only a couple of black players. 18 is some kind of supremacist number though I don't know where that comes from (c0mb47 IB possibly). It's very funny.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

18 a wh|t3 p0w3r thing iirc

xp yeah

dan m, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

18's a symbol used often in extremist literature

1 = A(dolf); 8 = H(itler)

kreayshawn mullins (cozen), Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

ah ok.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

wtf

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

think it's british humour.

LocalGarda, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

I thought 88 was the racist number, but I guess that's not really a number you can wear on a football shirt.

(Jibe) jibé (Jibe), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

Don't tell Gary Hooper that!

ailsa, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

Celtic have an 88, can't remember his name but it's six letters, begins with H and ends -er.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

gah!

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

You can get away with anything these days
http://45.img.v4.skyrock.net/453/m0h4-martil/pics/2585362073_1.jpg

Number None, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

http://45.img.v4.skyrock.net/453/m0h4-martil/pics/2585362073_1.jpg

Number None, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck it, it's Ronaldinho wearing his number 80 shirt at Milan

Number None, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

lol ismael
i honestly thought numbers on footbal jerseys weren't allowed to go higher than like 30 or something!

(Jibe) jibé (Jibe), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squad_number_(association_football)#Unusual_or_notable_numbers

Number None, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

ronnie showed up twice

find anything over 30 (bar giving a youth team player #48 or whatever) unseemly and too american.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

Buffon had 88 as his shirt number but had to change it. He claimed no knowledge of any dubious associations and said he liked it because it reminded him of four balls.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

i just realized i turned images off to look at the Timbaland poll thread earlier. D'oh

Number None, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

Chicago has had 77, 88, 89, and 99 this year.

dan m, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

(only one of those players is american btw)

dan m, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

http://theexecutionersbong.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/mikel-arteta-statistical-analysis/

kreayshawn mullins (cozen), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/romario_g6.jpg

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

boss

kreayshawn mullins (cozen), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

yah i don't think liverpool are white nationalists ~as such~ but there is some chauvinism in this BEST OF BRITISH shit from the lad bellers and others

there is an assumption that british is in itself a good thing...premier league ready sure, but that applies to lots of non-british players....even aside from such practical considerations there a residual belief that BRITISHNESS confers some special qualities

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

can be traced back to source, you don't know wotchure gettin when you buy from yoorup full of chemicals i bet

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

every sunderland academy product is artisanally branded on the thigh with an imprint of lord kitchener

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

Also Downing, Bellamy, Henderson probably count as 'home grown' if we ever get back into Europe. Although why we would wanna go all the way over there when there are plenty of good games right here I don't know.

pandemic, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

^ gets it

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

haw

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

Interesting that the buy-British policy at Spurs and Liverpool was driven by Comolli more than anyone else.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

self loathing frog

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

Isn't there a quota this year?

get even girls blue the cows (Michael White), Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

self loathing british ilxors xpost

LocalGarda, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

there a residual belief that BRITISHNESS confers some special qualities

maybe it does? it wouldn't be sniffed at around here if someone said those were shit qualities so why sniff at it when they're saying the opposite. isn't the reality that there's a better discussion to be had about potential differences between uk players and foreign ones than lambasting some sky sports/john terry strawman at every juncture, like we always do.

some stereotypes or national tropes are based on reality...to an extent. less so in football than in real life but at the least i think you can say people/players are highly likely to have different characteristics based on the country/league that produced them.

LocalGarda, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

uhm....it doesn't

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

any nationality confers "special qualities"

LocalGarda, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

sometimes it's difficult to appreciate dimitar berbatov's intrinsic footballing qualities because he just screams bulgarianness, you just can't get over how bulgarianly he behaves

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

Bulgarity, ffs

get even girls blue the cows (Michael White), Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

What are the special qualities of Irish footballers?

Number None, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

determinism via nationality is lazy shorthand at best, like every brazilian player getting defined wrt some 40 yr old notion of MAD SAMBA SKILLZ even though half of them are fullbacks or defensive midfielders

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

irish footballers are all game lads except john giles who was never a game lad even though he once was a lad, and game

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

determinism via nationality is lazy shorthand at best But exposure to 'national style' and hence national expectations does affect the way a majority of ppl raised there (and groomed for professionalism) play.

get even girls blue the cows (Michael White), Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

putting aside the fact that every country has its own system of coaches and training and its own league structure, and the fact that a player eventually transcending that after years abroad doesn't prove a lot, i think the fact you have to pick bulgaria to make that retort kind of says it all here. nobody here has a notion of bulgarianness yes, does that mean it doesn't exist? bulgarians prob criticising each other for dumb positive and dumb negative national stereotypes too. just like every other country in the world.

xpost it's not determinism via nationality at all.

What are the special qualities of Irish footballers?

i don't know because it's too complex, but it's totally logical to assume that people trained in one country vs another would have different qualities.

LocalGarda, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

Aw, i was just hoping for joke answers

Number None, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

If there is an inherent British football identity, i'm not sure whether it would apply in the same way to, for example, David Bentley and Andy Carroll or Aaron Lennon and Jonjo Shelvey. Comolli's attraction doesn't seem to be to any particular facet of their game (speed, mental toughness, control, passing, etc). There doesn't seem to be a lot to bind them together other than nationality.

I guess the idea of the 'British spine' at Chelsea and United could have been influential. It's not just a case of EPL readiness, there'd be considerations like the general reluctance for British players to move away from the club to take up opportunities abroad. Gerrard, Terry, Rooney, Lampard etc, would probably have had offers from major clubs in Spain and Italy at one point or another. Perhaps it helps stability.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

true, could be an idea that they're better investments in that sense

Number None, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

i only wish there was some way of proving that all countries don't produce the same type of footballer, some sort of global urn

x-post to shari, agree with most of that. esp the first par...i'm not even saying anything positive/negative about uk players, just think if we discuss why england do shit at a world cup then it's hardly wild to discuss what diff qualities, better or worse, english footballers might bring to a prem side.

LocalGarda, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:02 (thirteen years ago)

But exposure to 'national style' and hence national expectations does affect the way a majority of ppl raised there (and groomed for professionalism) play.

― get even girls blue the cows (Michael White), Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:58 (1 minute ago)

yah u are arguing something else

BRITISH, as with BRAZILIAN is invoked as a numinous intensifying factor that somehow enhances the sum of a player's demonstrable techincal/athletic/mental qualities

this is altogether different to the way, rather predictably, trends in coaching affect the types of players produced in different places

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

That's an interesting point, I hadn't thought of. You're narrowing the pool of clubs that are likely to be interested in enticing your player away from you. Also narrowing the pool of clubs you are likely to sell to if you want rid as well, although EPL wages in relation to most of Europe does that anyway.
xxxp

pandemic, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

But it hasn't been a 'buy British' policy? It's players who know the Premier League, can hit the ground running, and get us into the top 4. Or am I being really naive?

Chris, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

BRITISH, as with BRAZILIAN is invoked as a numinous intensifying factor that somehow enhances the sum of a player's demonstrable techincal/athletic/mental qualities

no way is british even close to brazilian here...find some actual examples of someone clearly using british to say that rather than just a vague "he gets stuck in" sense.

LocalGarda, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

that's true, but it does mean you end buy with a lot of british xp

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

a vague "he gets stuck in" sense counts for a lot if getting stuck in is yr thing

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

ah look i guarantee you if we were in other euro countries people could argue the same about "italian", "spanish", "german" etc...and find strawmen to back themselves up. it's a global trait to big up your own country, and it's EVEN MORE typical to act like that's not the case and your own is the only country where people have this.

"the irish are terrible begrudgers etc"...it's self aggrandising via self hatred.

LocalGarda, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

dowie and lol bassett were all over this britishness trip last night on ssn

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i don't the british predilection for this sort of venal nonsense is much worse than in other comparably sized post-imperial countries

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:11 (thirteen years ago)

/think/

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:11 (thirteen years ago)

The Bassett/Dowie combo was a serious visual affront

Number None, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

Definitely a "go British!" thing at Liverpool last summer. There's a good Balague quote that sums it up better than I could.

Chris, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

And Jim White. That was some serious o_O TV last night.

Chris, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

the EPL's huge spending power ought to have invalidated this whole britfetish since it has allowed teams to buy the best BRITISH players from all over the world, whereupon it will have been discovered that the best BRITISH centre halves and centre forwards come from the cote d'ivoire and serbia

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:18 (thirteen years ago)

dowie and lol bassett were all over this britishness trip last night on ssn

― diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, September 1, 2011

yeah i saw this

zvookster, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

What were they saying? I missed that bit.

Chris, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

"great bit of business for them, he's british" no really

zvookster, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:40 (thirteen years ago)

the internationalism of the EPL is one of the best things about it

a few years ago blackburn had the most nationalities of any team, sthing like 14 i think, and they played really very bad and BRITISH football

it was wonderful

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

what about ibrahimovic then? Ey? EY?

Can we draw conclusions about the footballing characteristics of orphans from cron?

Gary doherty is as irish as damien duff. Run with that.

I think the approval of britishness from british pundits in britain is pretty much as sharivari says, no cultural, language or settling in issues to trouble simple football men like arry. Or big ron.

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Friday, 2 September 2011 00:35 (thirteen years ago)

Big problem with people who big up Britishness as a positive quality in a footballer is they tend to have ideas about what qualities e.g. Africanness brings to the game.

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Friday, 2 September 2011 06:23 (thirteen years ago)

Interesting discussion, not sorry I missed it tbh

I think there's also the British club culture where the team and club is this charisma-led gang, rather than the more orthodox corporate structure that continental clubs seem to follow. Buying British would be more likely to produce someone who understands and accepts this, and is almost inherently capable of working within it because that's what they've known since they were playing boys' football. Look at it the other way and what happens sometimes when you get a foreign manager parachuted into an English setup, complaints about Sven's halftime speeches or Capello's coldness.

I don't know, maybe it's better expressed as a negative; it cuts down your chances of ending up with a misfit like Andrea Silenzi or Džo Cole.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 September 2011 06:25 (thirteen years ago)

Think we're possibly underrating the value of team spirit here - it's what Liverpool with their various cliques seem to have lacked in previous years. What Bellamy's talking about isn't really "BRITISH PASSION!!!!!" but "good bunch of lads to go go-karting with".

The problem with this is that said bunch of lads now include Bellamy and Andy Carroll, who are not exactly known for their level-headedness. There'll be a bargain-basement equivalent of the same thing at QPR. It's what killed Newcastle in the mid-00s. Dunno, I'm happy that there are good English/British players coming through but on the other hand I'm not sure that rebooting Liverpool as Spice Boys 2.0 is the way forward.

Also, it means Jamie Carragher and his moronic ilk have won.

Matt DC, Friday, 2 September 2011 08:48 (thirteen years ago)

Also inherent Britishness with regard to football, like it or not, does mean kick-and-rush. The English players that look most promising - Wilshere, McEachran, Cleverley etc - strike me as far more continental in their approach, but that might not get noticed amid all the hubris.

Probably no coincidence that this discussion is happening at the time the Wenger approach has suddenly and massively gone out of fashion.

Matt DC, Friday, 2 September 2011 08:52 (thirteen years ago)

Should also be pointed out that anyone who thinks this Liverpool team stand a chance of getting into the Champions League without Best-of-British Luis Suarez is kidding themself.

Matt DC, Friday, 2 September 2011 08:53 (thirteen years ago)

Tbh the spine of the best current LFC side - Reina, Agger, Lucas, Suarez - isn't particularly British.

Stevie T, Friday, 2 September 2011 08:54 (thirteen years ago)

LFC lacking team spirit? Istanbul etc

pandemic, Friday, 2 September 2011 09:03 (thirteen years ago)

Distilled in the spirit of ONE MAN

Matt DC, Friday, 2 September 2011 09:04 (thirteen years ago)

a few years ago blackburn had the most nationalities of any team, sthing like 14 i think, and they played really very bad and BRITISH football

Also Big Sam fielding a team without any British players and still being about as lumberingly route-one as it's possible to be.

I dunno, management philosophy strikes me as more important than personnel to an extent, and Dalglish shows every sign of not being an antediluvian idiot.

Matt DC, Friday, 2 September 2011 09:08 (thirteen years ago)

Never thought LFC lacked team spirit tbh Maybe 2010 team, but for most of the 2000's I'd have said it was one of the biggest pluses of the team. Making up for a lack of quality in some areas imo.

pandemic, Friday, 2 September 2011 09:22 (thirteen years ago)

who knows, maybe the lack of banter drove them to such mindless rage that they had no choice but to attack each with golf clubs, but in their polyglot way they didnt lack for determination, indefatigibility or any of the other abstract nouns invented by iain dowie

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 2 September 2011 09:37 (thirteen years ago)

your americans, your cubans, your mexican lads, they'll be comin at you with a baseball bat most likely. Watch out for that, slightly different arm angle required to block any high swing. The welsh and english boys will favour a golf club, maybe a long iron- the paddies too, most likely, but don't discount the hurl with them or the scots boys. Your french, italians, spanish- those boys will have a blade, every time, watch out for that. The eastern europeans are a facking liability, you could be walking into anythere there, so be on your guard- we all remember balaban pulling an uzi out of his sock during a particularly tasty pace lap in brighton.

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Friday, 2 September 2011 09:56 (thirteen years ago)

Ronaldo is not an orphan

Number None, Friday, 2 September 2011 10:07 (thirteen years ago)

Gary Neville weighs in. I haven't seen him punditing yet but this sort of thing is promising.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 September 2011 10:15 (thirteen years ago)

ronaldo can be anything he wants to be imo

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Friday, 2 September 2011 10:16 (thirteen years ago)

"The analogy I use is if a man takes a woman out 85 times and then she's not your girlfriend at the end of it, you've wasted a lot of time.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Friday, 2 September 2011 10:26 (thirteen years ago)

what possible analogy?

Arsenal 85 passes per shot?

Spurs 85 players bought per adequate recruitment?

Utd 85 seconds per ridiculous ref decision?

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Friday, 2 September 2011 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

That did jump out as the voice of bitter experience.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Friday, 2 September 2011 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

clearly the shagging hadn't been very good during those 85 dates.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Friday, 2 September 2011 10:36 (thirteen years ago)

it always end up with the lads bursting into the hotel room wanting a roast ;_;

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Friday, 2 September 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago)

Something to add to this discussion:

They say the Premiership game is so much *faster* than other leagues. Would the English midfielders, pick say Jenas or Murphy be lauded abroad because they would have a quicker reaction, being used to a higher tempo, or would they still be midtable cloggers?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 September 2011 10:39 (thirteen years ago)

she always call out "neville" rather than "gary", and i end up thinking about my dad ;_;

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Friday, 2 September 2011 10:39 (thirteen years ago)

sorry serious discussions

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Friday, 2 September 2011 10:39 (thirteen years ago)

Jenas's main problem is his decision-making, so yeah he might do better in Italy or somewhere.

Matt DC, Friday, 2 September 2011 10:46 (thirteen years ago)

murphy clearly not yr typical eng mf anyway

Jenas would be lauded as athletic and energetic before they could digest his passing stats and howl with derision before packing him off to the changing rooms to athletically and energetically sweep the floor

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Friday, 2 September 2011 10:46 (thirteen years ago)

I mean he's rubbish at a high-tempo when he had to play a quick pass, more time on the ball would probably help him.

Matt DC, Friday, 2 September 2011 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

he panics when given time too, though!

He's best without thinking at alll, but it's too easy to knock him out of the mental space necessary to flow like that

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Friday, 2 September 2011 10:54 (thirteen years ago)

I haven't seen him punditing yet but this sort of thing is promising

He's been pretty good as a pundit so far

Prejudice Capsule Hamster (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 September 2011 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

"Rebooting Liverpool as spice boys 2.0" cos of Bellamy and Carroll...there's a toilet iPhone post if ever I saw one.

LocalGarda, Friday, 2 September 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

Also pandemic otm, liverpool under rafa were synonymous with the big spirited comeback (on loads of occasions) and the last minute goal. It created about three memes here. They've lacked width and pace and creativity, seldom spirit.

LocalGarda, Friday, 2 September 2011 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

i don't know that getting late goals (or, tbh, needing to) is the same thing as spirit. Penchant for drama, yes.

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Friday, 2 September 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

idk, i'd say the desire to keep pushing to the final whistle even in games that look destined to end in a draw / loss was one of the key factors in the season Spurs finished 4th and one of the biggest reasons they failed to last time. There's a definite mental factor involved.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Friday, 2 September 2011 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

Likewise Newcastle just giving up when faced with relegation - easily enough good players, no spirit whatsover. But I dunno, you can be spirited and still lose - thinking of West Brom and Wolves teams of the past.

Obviously luck comes into it - maybe what I'm reaching for is camaraderie rather than team spirit. Liverpool under Rafa always struck me as a club with cliques - English and Spanish-speaking blocs most obviously. Maybe not as pronounced as at Chelsea, but it rarely seemed to be the happiest of clubs.

Matt DC, Friday, 2 September 2011 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

see, last year we gained more points from behind than any tean in epl history, yet we still conceded stupid goals and lost bad points against lower half of the table opposition and i dunno, i think that 'spirit' that only kicks in on 85 mins or after you've already let in a goal is handy but not the all-positive aspect it's painted as. I'd rather my team had the spirit not to concede with every cross tbfh

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Friday, 2 September 2011 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

That's just ineptitude though.

Matt DC, Friday, 2 September 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

it's tied to motivation/team spirit etc imo, centre halves are the first and maybe most important manifestation of the mental toughness of a team i think

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Friday, 2 September 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

Likewise Newcastle just giving up when faced with relegation - easily enough good players, no spirit whatsover. But I dunno, you can be spirited and still lose - thinking of West Brom and Wolves teams of the past.

The Villa match? That was surreal.

Chris, Friday, 2 September 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

I'd love to've seen that - I was abroad at the time where they showed Man Utd youngsters in a dead rubber instead, with no reference to the other games whatsoever. You had to work it out from crowd oohs & ahhs.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 September 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

Don't think Chelsea particularly have language blocks, though the French-speakers have a habit of sticking together. The problem is more the older players who have been together for ages - terry, cech, lampard, cole, drogba, essien, malouda - having built up very strong relationships with each other that new players have to try and deal with. Like any office situation, that must be difficult for outsiders.

There used to be massive language (Italian/French/English) problems in 90s, early 2000s until Mourinho (I think) insisted on English being the only language spoken in training. Also the club moved training grounds - Cobham has one huge dressing room but the old one had three or four tiny drooms so players would gang up in groups of four and five and that got very cliquey (there used to be a black dressing room and a white one as far as I can tell).

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

This thread is first time I ever heard of language blocks at lfc.

LocalGarda, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

the old new liverpool

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

that's cause the french dudes called them cleeks

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

It's good when you join a new club and everything cliques into place.

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

http://olympia.fortunecity.com/norman/384/kliq.jpg

l-r luiz, anelka, franky, drogba, ebjt

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 September 2011 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

they're definitely in Fortune City - 6 figures per week each

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Friday, 2 September 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

'arry said: "It's an 'ooge blow. 'e's a good lad an' 'e was in good form fer us."
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3792394/Rafael-van-der-Vaart-is-out-for-six-weeks.html

James Mitchell, Saturday, 3 September 2011 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

rip big van

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 3 September 2011 11:59 (thirteen years ago)

fantasy teams up and down the land chagrined

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 September 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

JackWilshere Jack Wilshere
I can confirm I will be out for around 2-3 months! I am working hard in the gym to stay fit and I am gutted but I will be back stronger!

Number None, Sunday, 4 September 2011 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

will be tough on arsenal, having the 3rd best player in the world out for that long

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 September 2011 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

only found out about the Meireles transfer in the pub tonight, been out of contact with the media for the last week.

lol Dalglish you're shit

Frogbs (Pray Like Aretha Franklin (in Whiteface)) (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 September 2011 00:31 (thirteen years ago)

So you haven't heard about Doyle?

Chris, Monday, 5 September 2011 01:36 (thirteen years ago)

lol

Wb nv. Trap's trying to break doyle's head. Trap out

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 01:45 (thirteen years ago)

shit, le Fondre ended up at Reading?

Frogbs (Pray Like Aretha Franklin (in Whiteface)) (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 September 2011 01:59 (thirteen years ago)

jumped le sharque

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 02:01 (thirteen years ago)

the one thing i did manage to keep in touch with whilst sleeping in a field outside Harlech was that Wolves had done fuck all btw

Frogbs (Pray Like Aretha Franklin (in Whiteface)) (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 September 2011 02:02 (thirteen years ago)

i caught 90 mins of ward there on fri night, is he one of your'n?

I'm not one to draw hasty conclusions but cunt wants drownin imo

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 02:07 (thirteen years ago)

lol sounds like our Wardy

Frogbs (Pray Like Aretha Franklin (in Whiteface)) (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 September 2011 02:08 (thirteen years ago)

assumed cos Doyler didn't start you was just playing a friendly or something

Frogbs (Pray Like Aretha Franklin (in Whiteface)) (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 September 2011 02:08 (thirteen years ago)

still now Shane Long's broken you've got no choice come tuesday

Frogbs (Pray Like Aretha Franklin (in Whiteface)) (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 September 2011 02:09 (thirteen years ago)

doyle played, but trap publicly let slip that he didn't think his head was right. Doyle was shite, wasn't tryin, no fight or spirit. Trap says he might start with cox on tues, maybe give doyle a chance to show he's up for it in the final twenty mins or whatever.

Seriously, trap out. When you think kevin doyle's attitude is to be publicly questioned in the buildup to a pair of crucial matches, you're the problem. He's turnin from a cranky negative contrarian to an actual cunt

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 02:13 (thirteen years ago)

Here, what's the story with Leon Best?

Number None, Monday, 5 September 2011 03:21 (thirteen years ago)

trades descriptions act will see for that cunt

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 06:36 (thirteen years ago)

That VDV injury might be a blessing in disguise.

Matt DC, Monday, 5 September 2011 09:29 (thirteen years ago)

if it lets him rest up and come back ready, yeah.

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 09:44 (thirteen years ago)

Also I'm not sure we've ever recovered from reworking our entire team and formation to fit him in - a spell of 4-4-2 with Adebayor and Defoe upfront might work nicely. Also VDVs best game for us this year has been when he was playing nominally on the right rather than behind the striker.

Matt DC, Monday, 5 September 2011 09:48 (thirteen years ago)

when was that? Have always thought him poor on the right myself.

Changing to 451 with crouch was the issue- formation was in part vdv but also to let lennon and bale loose while still getting modric, vdv and one sitter into the line-up

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 09:52 (thirteen years ago)

VDV has been 'lol injury plagued stopping him having any form and being too important to a team because he made 3 great appearances once' since basically the start of his career. Ever wonder why he was so cheap? Every second that passes it'll look like a mistake not cashing on his great season imo.

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 September 2011 09:55 (thirteen years ago)

This is such obvious fake foresight, weren't you saying Man United should sign him a couple of years ago?

Matt DC, Monday, 5 September 2011 10:03 (thirteen years ago)

lol u rep for rvp in fairness

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 10:05 (thirteen years ago)

when was that? Have always thought him poor on the right myself.

3-3 draw against Arsenal.

Matt DC, Monday, 5 September 2011 10:05 (thirteen years ago)

good performance, granted, but an aberration in that position. He was prob at his best dropping back into cm in the early european games i think

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 10:08 (thirteen years ago)

He wasn't really on the right in that game either to be fair. Agree he's probably best in midfield proper.

Matt DC, Monday, 5 September 2011 10:13 (thirteen years ago)

agree with DC that dvd, I mean vdv, absence could help

agree that he disrupted the team when he arrived

was at Arsenal game and do recall, now, that he was good that night

don't understand 'cashing in on great season' -- he's not Bale or Modric, no one wanted to sign him.

the pinefox, Monday, 5 September 2011 10:18 (thirteen years ago)

that's true also- we weren't beating away offers all summer for him (nor bale for that matter)

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 10:26 (thirteen years ago)

no nobody wants Bale any more !!! funny

the pinefox, Monday, 5 September 2011 10:28 (thirteen years ago)

If Levy had capitulated on Modric early then the Bale offers would have come. Think a lot of the interest in Bale was either manufactured by the press or, more likely, clubs have been sitting around to see how he does for another season rather than buy in the peak of a hubristic bubble. I presume Man City just weren't that interested.

Matt DC, Monday, 5 September 2011 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

Bale may be excellent at what he does but what he does is quite limited imo

Frogbs (Pray Like Aretha Franklin (in Whiteface)) (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 September 2011 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno, if you can do one thing very very well and get back and tackle reasonably then you don't need to be particularly versatile.

Matt DC, Monday, 5 September 2011 10:30 (thirteen years ago)

wing play, either way? Crossing early or late, beating his man either way, comfortable cutting into the box and shooting or playing the pass and running to collect?

Yeah, you're wrong tbh nv. Crouch crouch crouch. Can't say it enough.

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

may have been influenced by watching him be not very good in the centre for Wales the other night

Frogbs (Pray Like Aretha Franklin (in Whiteface)) (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 September 2011 10:36 (thirteen years ago)

Discussions like this remind me of those dreadful attempts made to convert David Beckham into a central midfielder when everyone in the world knew exactly what he was good at and what he was in the team for. Possibly Beckham himself encouraged them.

Matt DC, Monday, 5 September 2011 10:37 (thirteen years ago)

the prestige attached to the central role would confuse anyone compelled to watch the republic this past while.

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 10:40 (thirteen years ago)

DM, what about Crouch?

are you just expressing happiness at his departure?

the pinefox, Monday, 5 September 2011 10:43 (thirteen years ago)

I think his point is that Bale created an awful lot of chances that Crouch wasn't good enough to put away, or was in the wrong place to get near.

Matt DC, Monday, 5 September 2011 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

sorry, work called.

Yes pf- matt has it. Not only was crouch not capable of finishing the chances created, his absence of presence or ability to collect and hold the ball totally undermined entire nascent passages of play. Bale's powerful forward running off the ball was time and again wasted by virtue of the fact that crouch's touch, passing or plain failure to head or challenge in the air meant he would merely find himself the wrong side of his full back on what was already a burgeoning counter attack for the opposition.

Modric and (to an extent) lennon were also wasted for the most part whenever crouc was given the responsibilty for the attack.

I'm no fan of adebayor, but i fully expect his fuller presence to bring about a serious improvement in the effectiveness of the rest of our attack.

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 10:56 (thirteen years ago)

agree that Adebayor cd well make Bale's light shine brighter in particular

Frogbs (Pray Like Aretha Franklin (in Whiteface)) (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 September 2011 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

strongly agree, DM

I felt all this many times, watching Crouch being incredibly useless.

I have also always been deeply annoyed when Crouch misses an easy chance and laughs about it.

I don't like Adebayor but must reserve judgement on his effect on the team.

the pinefox, Monday, 5 September 2011 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

presumably you're no fans of adebayor purely in a character sense? as a footballer surely there's no argument he's very capable and effective when he's got his head screwed on (which isnt as seldom as people like to make out tbf).

r|t|c, Monday, 5 September 2011 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

"In this respect Crouch can almost seem like a parody of an English centre-forward, a living satire of those "traditional strengths", football's version of a braces-twanging pearly king or a champion Morris dancer."

^ quite liked this line in barney ronay's otherwise routine appreciation of crouch fwiw

r|t|c, Monday, 5 September 2011 11:07 (thirteen years ago)

i left out crouch's off the ball movement, another hugely important facet of a lone striker's game with regard to effectiveness of the wingers. So easy to mark, so predictable (a defender could have gone to the back post andnwaited for him to arrive, usually) and so unhelpful for a winger cutting in or a midfielder arriving late.

Vdv had a knack of being where the ball would arrive once crouch miscontrolled it, one only hopes that he comes back fit and sharp and with more to his game than that.

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 11:08 (thirteen years ago)

rtc yeah, character reservations is right, though if i'm honest only as far as it translates on-field. He pulled that young arsenal team down around him the season before he left. I hate being left so dependent on him but when he plays he's ... I hate to say unplayable but y'know

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

shit, le Fondre ended up at Reading?

― Frogbs (Pray Like Aretha Franklin (in Whiteface)) (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 September 2011 02:59 (9 hours ago) Bookmark

yeah right i missed this too! i think every fan of every club in the country (besides knobs who havent heard of him) felt a slight twinge of envy when they saw that - if he were called adam watson then hey ho, you sometimes get the odd lower league flash in the pan but chuck in some of that le tiss channel islands swag and he just becomes irresistible

r|t|c, Monday, 5 September 2011 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

Glenville Adam J. le Fondre (born 2 December 1986), more commonly known as Adam Le Fondre, is an English footballer who plays for Reading as a striker.

!!

r|t|c, Monday, 5 September 2011 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

think we need Ken Chu to explore the amusing complexities of a player finding himself unplayable

feels like something Ken could do

the pinefox, Monday, 5 September 2011 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

in fact I wonder if Ken should be given a run in Ronay's slot.

the pinefox, Monday, 5 September 2011 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

I don't particularly care that we've got Adebayor, fuck it we've already got Gallas and that turned out alright.

But yeah he's obviously going to be a better goalscorer than anyone in our squad at the moment. Also, he always scored against us.

Matt DC, Monday, 5 September 2011 11:20 (thirteen years ago)

http://data4blog.de/media/880/1938880_50dece538f_m.jpeg

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 11:25 (thirteen years ago)

Some mention of ward upthread. He makes you wish kilbane was playing.

Yeah.

LocalGarda, Monday, 5 September 2011 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

gotta say he's improved a bit for us over the last few months but yeah he's not really Premier League class never mind international

Frogbs (Pray Like Aretha Franklin (in Whiteface)) (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 September 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

depends who you're playing tbf i think he'd prob have the turkhmeni winger in his pocket

even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

he's not really Premier League class never mind international

So can expect to see him playing for Celtic at some point no doubt

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Monday, 5 September 2011 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

you do seem to like taking shite Left Backs off our hands

Frogbs (Pray Like Aretha Franklin (in Whiteface)) (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 September 2011 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

This is such obvious fake foresight, weren't you saying Man United should sign him a couple of years ago?

― Matt DC, Monday, 5 September 2011 11:03 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

?

I dunno, I used to watch a lot of Real back when they were Dutch and thinking the same. Also remember when he signed saying 'lol he's gonna have a great half season' and being p much the only person (although I think nakh may have also joined in) saying it was for a reason bayern didn't buy him when they had the chance. I may have said Utd needed a VDV type of player though.

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 September 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

do we need a seperate garry cook thread before this becomes a giant shitstorm?

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

can't believe gary cook is a total cunt. a sad day for britain that this erstwhile honourable and dignified man has been found to be a bounder of the highest order.

LocalGarda, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

like i know football execs arent the nicest of people but mocking onouhas mum for suffering from cancer is some next level skeletor shit

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

it's a bit murky/ confused as to what's happened tbh? Onouha's mum got an email with the word 'riddled' in it that was meant for someone else- the suggestion being that it was a nasty reference to her illness?

It seems a bit thin tbh but i'm assuming there's more to goon than that, right?

Jolout Boy (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

its garry cook so i am presuming that thats the city publicity version of 'went to her door, rung the bell, left a flaming faeces display in the shape of 'haha u got cancer, gc' and ran away'

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

but why would he...
i mean what possible?
and then to?

You know?

Jolout Boy (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

'Cook has denied he sent the message, claiming his account was hacked.'

why the fuck would you say this if all you did was say 'ravaged with cancer'? wouldn't you just say 'sorry i never knew that was an impolite term and i won't use it again'

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

cook is obv a total wanker, he has a long history.

anyway your collective idol speculation is bizarre to me, tho possibly no more bizarre than the fact that the bbc seems not to have characteristically wussed out of telling the entire story here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14797327.stm

xpost...

LocalGarda, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

you're all still wrong, SHE said "ravaged with cancer" and he seems to have implied "ho ho ravaged, did you give her a good seeing to brian, lol" is how i'm reading it.

LocalGarda, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

ok there is more detail then.

bbc.co.uk takes years to load anything at best of times, and i'm on a phone, so i'm workin blind here.

Jolout Boy (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

Defender Onuoha's mother, who acts as his agent, had previously sent a message to Marwood and Cook, explaining that while she was "ravaged with cancer" it would not prevent her negotiating on behalf of her son.

Dr Onuoha then received an email, allegedly from Cook and addressed "Brian", which apparently ridiculed her use of language in describing her illness.

The email is reported to have read: "Ravaged with it!!...I don't know how you sleep at night. You used to be such a nice man when I worked with you at Nike. G".

LocalGarda, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

xp

Saw this earlier, thought they were insinuating "ravaged" as some kind of Manc version of "smashed it"?

So glad they lived down to my expectations.

James Mitchell, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

Like LG said, etc.

James Mitchell, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

oh yeah, sorry. but still:

Dr Onuoha told the Sun: "When I opened my emails and saw the message, it was the worst day of my life, even worse than being diagnosed with cancer

...

insulting email v. cancer? which would you be more afraid of getting

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

w in the actual fuck

Ok, it was a slightly strange thing to say in an email (imo) but to make mock of it is ... It's insane?

Seperate issue then as to how moronic you have to be to send the message back to her

Incredible

Jolout Boy (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

has nultathustra spaken about this yet?

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

does ravaged have a predominantly sexual connotation? not to my knowledge?

i just assumed cook had a giggle about her flamboyant use of the word in the middle of sorting a contract dispute and was giving his fellow negotiator a nudge in the ribs

r|t|c, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i think so

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

"ravaged" definitely has Catherine Cookson-y "raped" connotations

placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

ravished/ravaged HILAIR pun is always a possibility tho

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

i think of 'ravaged' as a 18th century sort of sexual connotation...

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

ravaged is the new raked

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

ya i have ravaged as something a lord might do to a milkmaid alright

Jolout Boy (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

not buying it tbh

cook is a moron for saying his thing was hacked though

r|t|c, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

there doesn't need to be the sexual connotation for the email to be massively crass, is the thing

placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

doesnt hurt doe

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

ravaged defo has sexual connotations, not least when cook is going "eh eh eh eh" basically in that message. there's blatant sexual connotations there. it's not in itself some act of unspeakable evil but once written down in the public sphere any form of joke or jibe even remotely connected to or directed at someone's terminal cancer is going to see the perpetrator hauled over the coals repeatedly. he's history.

LocalGarda, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

but what if he was hacked????????!?!?

like the kids do these days?????!?!?

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

not to ride out for the cookster but her bringing it up like that in the middle of trying to bump wee nedum's contract up another 20k might also be seen as crass idk

in any case twisting direct quote "ravaged by cancer" into "ravaged by 'it' lol!" seems so feebly convoluted as to be farfetched

r|t|c, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

"the old cancer's been giving me a right good shagging lately lads but if you can chuck in personalised number plates we might strike a deal by tea"

r|t|c, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

if anything seems like there's a missing email between what's been reported tbh

Jolout Boy (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

Steed Malbranque's representatives have dismissed reports the Frenchman has retired from football to care for an ill family member.

Reports at the weekend suggested the former Fulham, Spurs and Sunderland midfielder had quit St Etienne as his young son was suffering from cancer.

But Malbranque's representatives have released a statement saying he does not have a son and has not quit football.

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

anyway your collective idol speculation is bizarre to me
http://artaban7.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/golden-calf.jpg?w=291&h=200

Prejudice Capsule Hamster (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

ravage comes from the french ravager, which means to ravish; usually - in english -- it means to despoil or plunder, but both of these do have attendant sexual meanings

not impossible that he was fnar-ing at the word "ravage" bcz he'd actually confused it with "ravish" himself, which if possible ever so slightly adds to the dickishness...

mark s, Monday, 5 September 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

jesus...so fried today. awful xpost

LocalGarda, Monday, 5 September 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

Ravage, ravishing defo have sexual connotations in my book, no doubts on that.

Pretty sure it was Balotelli who hacked Cook's email when he was playing with his iPad during Italy's match this weekend tbh

http://sport.sky.it/static/contentimages/original/sezioni/sport/calcio_italiano/2011/09/05/mario_balotelli_italia_ipad_getty1.jpg

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 5 September 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

jermaime'ravishin' defo

Jolout Boy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 00:07 (thirteen years ago)

defoe is kinda crap

i wonder how modric would do as attacking mid

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 00:10 (thirteen years ago)

not greah imo, end product not his strong point in he lsst third

Defoe looked sharp againy city tho. All depenx on adebayor anyay

Jolout Boy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 00:14 (thirteen years ago)

lol worknight ffs

Jolout Boy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 00:14 (thirteen years ago)

i always like steed as a player whenever i saw him play. hope his kid gets better.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 06:16 (thirteen years ago)

Steed Malbranque's representatives have dismissed reports the Frenchman has retired from football to care for an ill family member.

Reports at the weekend suggested the former Fulham, Spurs and Sunderland midfielder had quit St Etienne as his young son was suffering from cancer.

But Malbranque's representatives have released a statement saying he does not have a son and his family are fine.

"Steed trusts that the rumours will now cease immediately," said a statement.
Continue reading the main story

Steed does not have a son and his immediate family are all in good health

Steed Malbranque's representatives

Malbranque, 31, switched to St Etienne in August to end a 10-year stay in English football, during which time he made a total of 336 Premier League appearances.

London-based solicitors Thomas Cooper added in their statement: "Steed has read with concern the recent stories currently circulating about him and his family.

"He would like to reassure all of his friends in England and throughout world football that these stories are wholly without foundation.

"Steed does not have a son and his immediate family are all in good health. Steed does not know the origin of these stories but would like to stress that they are without merit."

---------

what an odd rumour to start.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 06:20 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, that was an odd one, saw Darren Bent lamenting the loss to the game on Friday night then searched and found that no serious news outlets appeared to be reporting it

Even though it's now been dutifully laid out in the BBC's "what are tweets" idiot-proof style I'm still a bit confused by the Cook narrative

Like is it possible that "Cancer" is Brian Marwood's nickname here or

MPx4A, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 09:24 (thirteen years ago)

Very Cook-like of Cook to try and execute some hapless work experience kid for this though, kudos

MPx4A, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 09:25 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I'm kind of confused by that Cook story as well - it does scan like there's an email that hasn't been reported.

The only thing I can think of is that Cook was emailing while drunk on holiday and sent an email that a) made minimal sense and b) went to the wrong person.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 09:33 (thirteen years ago)

I guess Marwood made some zing about it to Cook, and then Cook mistakenly replied with Richard Hammond-style faux-disapproval to the original Nedum's mom e-mail because he's the kind of guy who gets really hi-power jobs without understanding how e-mail works or being able to string a sentence together

MPx4A, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 09:42 (thirteen years ago)

if ilf tried hard enough could one of us make ceo of an epl club i wonder

Jolout Boy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 09:47 (thirteen years ago)

Well, somebody managed to basically take over Notts County by putting on a fake moustache and saying "hello I represent a very rich consortium", right?

MPx4A, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 09:51 (thirteen years ago)

mumble mumble 'correct due diligence was observed' mumble

Tbf, that's how they all do it, it's just that in that case they hadn't the necessary readies to run the club for the crucial 'first month' period before selling

Jolout Boy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 09:54 (thirteen years ago)

obviously the thing here is to try and take over a club i wanna ruin

placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 09:59 (thirteen years ago)

give us a list, we'll do a full and rigorous analysis on the finances thread

Jolout Boy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 10:02 (thirteen years ago)

So which club are we going for? I think if we told people that D Mac was an old Irish left back representing a consortium then no one would notice and Roy Keane would make up some story about battering him within hours.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

maybe Wigan shd be put out of its misery

placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

And put the lovely Roberto out of a job?

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

I think we'd let him keep his place for now

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 11:47 (thirteen years ago)

tbh i had hopes of running a club on an even keel under FFP snicker

Jolout Boy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan wd be a fun project club, i'm struggling to find hate teams in the top flight this season bar Salford

placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

i mean there's Blackburn obv but i like the way the Venky's are going there

placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

Drunken Scottish manager too, that's always entertaining

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

It'd be difficult to do a better job at ruining a football club than some of our esteemed Premiership Chairmen are managing right now.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

Rafa delivers a web module in 03 hours 22 minutes - http://www.rafabenitez.com/

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 06:39 (thirteen years ago)

SAVE THE DATE

kinda wish he did it in 4 days time, so that line could be even more lol

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 06:40 (thirteen years ago)

The content of Benitez’s website will provide a vehicle for communication with fans by giving details of his biography, career and records achieved at all of the clubs he has managed, as well as giving up to date information on his interviews and thoughts on football.

Via his blog he will be writing in-depth technical articles with his thoughts on current trends or matters of interest in football.

Hope he has outsourced this to P McNulty.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 06:48 (thirteen years ago)

rafabenitez.com begins its journey

The official website of the coach from Madrid is launched today in Paris

The central HQ of Eurosport in Paris was, this morning, the setting for the official launch of Rafa Benitez’s website. The coach from Madrid, who was also presented as a new expert commentator for the sports channel that gives up to the minute information of all that is happening in the sports world, embarks on this new project of internet communication, his official website, with an ambitious format including the most up to date news about the Spanish coach and his recently created Montse Benitez Foundation, as well as biographical content, his career and records...In addition, it includes a blog, with technical articles written by Rafa Benitez, members of his staff and website colleagues, a comprehensive forum for fans of the different clubs Benitez has managed, links page.

During the double announcement of the website and the partnership of RB and Eurosport, Benitez took part in a TV programme sharing views with Arsene Wenger, also an expert commentator for the worldwide sports channel, and addressed a strong contingent of journalists representing their respective media.

rafabenitez.com begins its life with the imprint and stamp of the philosophy which has carried the Spanish coach to winning titles in the three biggest leagues in the world. Welcome to rafabenitez.com.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 09:14 (thirteen years ago)

bless him, nobody gives a fuck cos he's shit and a cunt.

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 09:28 (thirteen years ago)

Is La Liga better than the Premier League?

My first impression, and whenever I have been asked this question I have been convinced of this, is that the Premier League is quicker and has bigger physical demands than the Spanish championship, and that La Liga is more technical and tactical.

Rafa bringing the insight.

placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 10:24 (thirteen years ago)

darraghmac is Siralec AICMFP:

Manchester United boss Alex Ferguson saw a picture of former Liverpool boss Benitez during an interview in an Italian newspaper office and said: “He is jobless and he is not my friend.”
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/269708

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 10:35 (thirteen years ago)

oh wow

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 10:41 (thirteen years ago)

"Nasri Sustains Hand Injury With France"

Must have tried picking up his wallet imho.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 10:51 (thirteen years ago)

I'd heard it was a shoulder strain sustained while patting himself on the back

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 10:56 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe Arsene left him a little surprise in his kitbag

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 10:57 (thirteen years ago)

Nah it was cramp cos he's such a wanker

Number None, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 10:57 (thirteen years ago)

all good stuff

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 10:59 (thirteen years ago)

bless him, nobody gives a fuck cos he's shit and a cunt.

I like you, and I don't know if this "A+ trolling", but seriously, lay off. Regardless of what you think of his tactics, he's a good man. Perhaps you should watch the reception he received at the last Hillsborough Memorial Service for an indication of how highly he is thought of in this city. Then maybe you'll refrain from calling the man "a cunt". Leaving this thread for a while before I say something I regret.

Chris, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

Right, fair enough.

I think we can accept that, none of us knowing him personally, our perceptions of Rafa Benitez the man are all to be taken with a large pinch of salt- that's either in positive aspect (I feel that we'd all be popular at Hillsborough events if we were serving or previous Liverpool managers) or negative (his public persona, for many neutrals or opposition fans is clearly at the very best 'divisive').

I'd always take this as understood, which is why I wouldn't bat an eyelid at the things you read perfectly normal people like yr avg ilxor saying dreadful things (yes, like 'he's a cunt') on ie ILF about y'know people we essentially know nothing about. It's internet messageboard guff. I don't take it seriously. I wouldn't lean over a dinnertable to the gent in question and pssst yer a cunt at him, y'know?

Furthermore, while admitting we know nothing about him, really, the man is a celebrity with a publc persona. With that territory comes adulation undeserved and hyperbolic vitriol equally so. It's kind of a 'thing' and again, not having a go at you but [whiney]ffs it's just football messageboard shitetalk[/whiney]

I'm sure Benitez would treat my anonymous internet opinion with the appropriate contempt. Part of the fun is that these are perfectly weightless opinions- they're not painted on his bathroom wall, y'know?

I wouldn't want to fall out with anyone over this kind of thing, basically- yourself and ronan get kinda irate in defence of Rafa, and I know his antics get me and others nicely riled up, but jesus lads it's only the internet.

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

so. many. board. descriptions. this being my favourite:

I wouldn't lean over a dinnertable to the gent in question and pssst yer a cunt at him

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

careful you'll get pleasant plains in here

Chris- i'm not trying to tell you what should or shouldn't annoy you, cos that'd be aggravatory of me. Just trying to make you see it in the way it's intended, ok not exactly lighthearted banter but it's fairly non-consequential nonsense in an obscure corner of the net- if it was ever gonna hurt rafa i'd probably stop. Probably.

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

If i had a quid for every time someone on here called Fergie a cunt...

Number None, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, but fair comment surely?

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

bites the eads of whippets

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

the nasri insults were funnier than the rafa one but i don't know if this is because nasri is more a wanker than rafa is a cunt (if at all, etc.)

or maybe there's more imagination at work with the hand, visualising nasri wanking etc.

felt bad fergie got kicked in a balls, but i had a giggle when i imagined what his face looked like when he got a low blow.

sorry this isn't the "retarded" thread.

take out the quote marks though.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

i felt like p f should have posted the above

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

felt bad fergie got kicked in a balls

He felt worse amirite? It was some *jakey that did it wasn't it?

(*you might have to google this word)

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

t'was aye

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

Actually think I would have to be riled to call ferguson a cunt, tho usually i'm drunk when I post things along the road to the cunt district so perhaps I actually get there and forget the next day.

I do think rafa is actually a good man, he didn't have to get as involved in hillsborough as he has and he speaks out about it a lot even still.

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

i'm sure he's grand, y'know. His one-one interviews seem a lot more laid back and goid-humoured, but you have to admit the ammo is there in a lot of his other public dealings. Arguments for and against, like anyone tbf. I'm good with kids and grannies, like.

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

good with kids and Gráinnes

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

niche material, kudos

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

"the referee was perfect" was quite annoying though

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/811/rafaactuallycelebratesg.gif

Number None, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

"the referee was perfect" was quite annoying though

cunty imo

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

Sorry about that, Darragh. I'm a bit sensitive at the moment; one of our 'legends' recently raised the possibility that some Liverpool supporters may have been to blame for Hillsborough. The same legend who quipped "Perhaps we can get back to the football" on Truth Day in 2007, and only yesterday made a sly comment about Rafa, having used Hillsborough to attack him and turn the fans against him last year. Fed up and pissed off, but no excuse.

Chris, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

who is that

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

ya who?

Np btw

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

Mark Lawrenson.

Chris, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

deems' rafa hate is one of the most inexplicably unhinged vendettas of his

he gives the impression of being a nice enough chap but very easily riled when trying to conduct a publicity war in a second language

i dislike the way his teams play football but i dont think his extreme micromanagement and weird pettiness are enough to hate him

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

lawrenson is a catty lil bitch

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

what can i say, one thing i demand is expansiveness

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

lawrenson has a damp and manky teatowel where his brain should be

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

"Why can’t the government just say ‘right, here are the facts, here are all the papers,’ and then just let the people make their minds up? Maybe there are lots of people to blame, maybe there are Liverpool supporters to blame, Stephen, and if there are, well, they have to deal with those consequences, but we just basically want to know the truth.”

what lawrenson actually said fyi.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

DanKennett Dan Kennett
5Live just now: john murray: "we havent heard from rafa benitez for a while" Lawro: "thank goodness"
22 hours ago

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

Good to see that you follow Dan! He wrote a great piece on Financial Fair Play a few months ago.

Chris, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

i don't, i was just looking around lfc messageboards for the direct quotes.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=280669.0

nice bit of bedtime reading for darragh here.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

xp ah fair enough

Chris, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

i only do two things in bed tbh

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

this will only complement your rafa roleplay bondage time, i promise.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

can't believe number none posted that blackburn bullshit, that's a fergie and allardyce slur, not a rafa one. what a total load of shit that was!

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 18:34 (thirteen years ago)

I saw that but assumed he was playin' and fishing for another "ARGH" response from me!

Chris, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

yeah pretty much

Number None, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

Anyway let's be honest, you've probably got to be some degree of a cunt to make it as a top manager. I bet Guardiola is really narky in the mornings or something

Number None, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

ancelotti, del bosque, rijkaard

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

mark lawrenson is a cunt.

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

In Italy

With Sampdoria, he formed a dynamic strike partnership with Gianluca Vialli, and helped the club to its only league title in 1991, four Coppa Italias (1985, 1988, 1989 and 1994) and a Cup Winners' Cup in 1990. He also appeared in the final of the 1991–1992 European Cup against Barcelona.

With Lazio he won his second scudetto (2000) and Cup Winners' Cup titles (1999) as well as two more Coppa Italias (1998 and 2000). In the 1999–2000 season, Lazio won the Scudetto and Coppa Italia, but Mancini failed to score in 20 matches and he announced his playing retirement. He joined Lazio’s coaching staff as Sven-Goran Eriksson’s number two.

Leicester City

Joining Leicester City in January 2001,[13] Mancini made his Premier League debut against Arsenal at the age of 36, but failed to complete 90 minutes in his five appearances for the club.[14] In early February, he was given leave of absence, citing personal reasons. However, he telephoned the club on 14 February, and informed them he would not be returning to England (he had been offered the manager's job at Fiorentina).[15] Despite this, he cites his time at Leicester as the period during which he fell in love with the English game, and which later prompted him to accept the job at Manchester City.[16]

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

i like how his 541 serie a appearances get as much attention as his 4 games for leicester

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

Would you perhaps have preferred 433 or 442 appearances in Italy? I'm not sure if 352 appearances is even legal in calcio.

I like wasting my emotions on the interwebs (Michael White), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:58 (thirteen years ago)

his serie a games all took place in another country tbf

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:58 (thirteen years ago)

that's the sort of insight we pay you for

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

it's commensurate with my remuneration, yes

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

$200 to the server fund was generous, sure

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

Leicester: Royce, Rowett, Elliott, Taggart, Impey, Jones, Izzet, Robbie Savage, Davidson, Sturridge, Mancini.
Subs: Gilchrist, Guppy, Gunnlaugsson, Akinbiyi, Price.

magnificent

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/1126693.stm

Leicester's two new forward signings, Roberto Mancini and Dean Sturridge, both started.

Mancini could have scored after just nine minutes only for Sturridge to take a cross off the Italian's head as he was poised to strike.

It was no surprise when Mancini, making his first start for eight months, was replaced by Ade Akinbiyi midway through the second half.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

guppy on the bench wtf

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

Impey, Guppy, Izzet, Akinbiyi - the sort of semi-forgotten names that stir inexplicable nostalgia for failed Fantasy League campaigns long past.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

matt elliott to liverpool

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

it just occured to me today that delap - crouch is going to be one of the most formidable striking partnerships this year.

Michael B, Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:21 (thirteen years ago)

ha

no

the guy can't head the ball

seriously

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:27 (thirteen years ago)

Impey, Guppy, Izzet, Akinbiyi - the sort of semi-forgotten names that stir inexplicable nostalgia for failed Fantasy League campaigns long past.

Guppy played for Celtic! For three seasons! And I have no memory of him whatsoever...

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:28 (thirteen years ago)

the lw england 'didn't have' for ten years imo

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:30 (thirteen years ago)

adebayor bale becks is gonna be a much deadlier aerial delivery/finish combo imo

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:53 (thirteen years ago)

i remember liking those names cos they sounded like cartoon characters.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:54 (thirteen years ago)

Guppy played for Celtic! For three seasons! And I have no memory of him whatsoever...

Guppy could put a great cross in - mostly underused. Part of our triple swoop for him, John Hartson and um, Momo Sylla iirc.

the art of posting sideways (onimo), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

Jim Magilton! Neil Shipperley! Francis Benali!

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

wow. two former oxford utd players in that leicester team.

spellcheck is really advanced these days (cajunsunday), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

Leicester: Royce, Rowett, Elliott, Taggart, Impey, Jones, Izzet, Robbie Savage, Davidson, Sturridge, Mancini.
Subs: Gilchrist, Guppy, Gunnlaugsson, Akinbiyi, Price.

magnificent

― r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:12 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

why does Savage get his full name?

the art of posting sideways (onimo), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

Obviously there was a Roberto Savage in the Leicester squad at the same time. Robbie Mancini had just been sold to Wycombe Wanderers.

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

bloody painful looking at that leicester team of lower league rough diamonds and knowing qpr turned their noses up at it for mark hateley and a load of other big money rejects managed by stewart fucking houston.

curbs managing keller, elliott, taggart, lennon, alex rae, andy roberts, andy booth, mendonca... we'd never have fallen so low.

course it's all changed now hasnt it. eek.

r|t|c, Thursday, 8 September 2011 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

A brief spell at Nottingham Forest followed, where he scored the opening goal of the game on his debut against Walsall to end Forest's dreadful goal drought. In another game, whilst warming up on the touchline, Forest fans started singing "Andy Impey's got no neck!" He's just a head on some shoulders!" Impey subsequently turned round and revealed his neck to the fans, starting an onslaught of songs about the neckless wonder. These 2 events mean he will go down in Forest folklore forever.

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 8 September 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

http://shop.sportsworldcards.com/ekmps/shops/sportsworld/images/queens-park-rangers-andy-impey-172-promatch-96-trading-card-2733-p.jpg

andy later went on to achieve fame as the popular dancehall entertainer vybz kartel.

r|t|c, Thursday, 8 September 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

fun fact: impey not only sat in the away section when qpr sealed promotion at watford but was among the first to invade the pitch as well

mundane thing to do for an ex pro you would have thought but nm

r|t|c, Thursday, 8 September 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

while i'm at it i may as well report that joey barton's been working on the team spirit at loftus rd this morning by destroying one of jay bothroyd's ugg boots

bothroyd for his part is "loving the banta"

r|t|c, Thursday, 8 September 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

McCarthy has one more spare place in his squad after naming 24 players this season and believes other options might also attract Wolves.

He said: “There will be out-of-contract players going to different clubs. One might pop up that’s suitable and if they do, of course we’ll consider it.

“El-Hadji Diouf is out of contract and Steed Malbranque has paid his up at St Etienne.”

I know this is bullshit but I'm still all a-flutter.

the Paul Squires of mean-spirited moaning and cynicism (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

either would be great, who do you need more

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

Why would you need Dioufy? Apart from the entertainment value? And I don't mean footballing entertainment.

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

Dioufy wd bring some much needed grit and maybe a few more goals

the Paul Squires of mean-spirited moaning and cynicism (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

he is a massive grit

Upt0eleven, Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

like Fletcher-Doyle is a no-brainer at the moment and i think Seb has been undervalued by McCarthy but after that our striking options are thin

the Paul Squires of mean-spirited moaning and cynicism (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

He was shit for Rangers (xp)

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

that proves he's got a good heart imo

the Paul Squires of mean-spirited moaning and cynicism (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

Obv. he was too dim to realise what he'd gotten himself into and that might have affected his form

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

while i'm at it i may as well report that joey barton's been working on the team spirit at loftus rd this morning by destroying one of jay bothroyd's ugg boots

bothroyd for his part is "loving the banta"

― r|t|c, Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:46 (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

'today in the qpr dressing room' is a thread i would enjoy.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

here's what they did with the ugg remains fwiw

jaybothroyd Jay bothroyd10
Keith curle ...........!!!! yfrog.com/mm4d8gj
4 hours ago

r|t|c, Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

sthing wrong when jaybees gets #10

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 8 September 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

Dioufy wd bring some much needed grit

He's a snide cynical diving fuck who gets involved in all kinds of shit and provokes frequent handbags episodes but grit? No.

Good enough player though.

the art of posting sideways (onimo), Thursday, 8 September 2011 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

yah i think dioufy brings a sense of good old fashioned allardycean grit stylings without rly bringing the actual grit

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 8 September 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.safc.com/javaImages/f/24/0,,10281~9970703,00.jpg

Captive Dane held against his will in an inhospitable region, paraded in front of the cameras

James Mitchell, Thursday, 8 September 2011 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

It's to show his family that he is still alive, by the looks of it.

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 9 September 2011 06:13 (thirteen years ago)

wolves, eh. Bogey team iirc. Gonna hold off on judgement of anything til adebayor gets a few games.

Sandro on long term deal. Seems pre-emptive tbh, but he was great last year.

Adebayor Sandro and, so far, friedel sort three problem positions from last season. Wish we'd got cahill tho.

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Friday, 9 September 2011 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

Big step up for us after the first 3 games, obv. Apparently we're starting the same team as the last 3 matches, which is pleasing. Still unsure about how much our liability players have improved, Bale will murder Stearman for pace so I'm hoping there's some kind of masterplan lol as if.

the Paul Squires of mean-spirited moaning and cynicism (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 September 2011 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

the masterplan was that it would be crouch waiting for the cross. Ooooh, bad luck

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Friday, 9 September 2011 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

hoping McCarthy is lying and suddenly Zubar will turn up from wherever he's got him locked up

the Paul Squires of mean-spirited moaning and cynicism (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 September 2011 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2011/09/07/richard-stearman-stays-at-right-back/

No, apparently Mick is just being a dick.

NB: I like Stearman and he's been decent at RB but he's already been turned by slower wingers than Bale this season.

the Paul Squires of mean-spirited moaning and cynicism (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 September 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

the masterplan is whenever bale goes forward take out a cardboard cutout of robin van persie up the other end so that adebayor will run 90 yards across the pitch towards the cardboard to stamp on it.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Friday, 9 September 2011 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

it's so crazy that it might just work

as long as you don't expect dawson to pay attention to it, like

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Friday, 9 September 2011 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

Won't work, the cardboard cutout of RVP is injured iirc

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 9 September 2011 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

on a point of information-

A cardboard cutout of van persie, sir, would be considerably less injury-prone than the original, we may safely assume.

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Friday, 9 September 2011 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

Currently facing charges of molesting a cardboard box.

the Paul Squires of mean-spirited moaning and cynicism (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 September 2011 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

come on ffs

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Friday, 9 September 2011 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

a large cardboard box is known as a 'gaylord' btw

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Friday, 9 September 2011 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

Cook out!

the art of posting sideways (onimo), Friday, 9 September 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2007/sports_owners/peter_kenyon.jpg

HE'S READY.

Matt DC, Friday, 9 September 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/lY1T3.jpg

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 9 September 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

"Cook out" is a gis open goal

the art of posting sideways (onimo), Friday, 9 September 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

"The privilege is in part offset however by the significant personal focus which has at times, detracted from the magnificent achievements of those working at the football club.

"It is that factor, together with my error of judgement in this matter that has prompted me to reach this decision, which I believe is in the best interests of the football club."

a blu blu blu

never trust a man called Garry

MPx4A, Friday, 9 September 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

Tragic that such a great man could be brought down by someone hacking into his e-mail account

Prejudice Capsule Hamster (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 9 September 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

autumnwatch cuntwatch: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14854142.stm

LocalGarda, Friday, 9 September 2011 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

Where are people getting their dodgy internet streams from these days? I had been relying on myp2p.eu but that appears to have been killed. Want to watch the Spurs v Wolves game but can't be arsed trawling for ages. Is live footy doctor serv or whatever still good?

Matt DC, Saturday, 10 September 2011 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.soccertvlive.net/ is decent

Number None, Saturday, 10 September 2011 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

OK, so Asamoah Gyan's gone on loan to a club in Saudi Arabia? Whaaaaa?

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 10 September 2011 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

lols @ fantasy teams hearing that right now

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

They did just get Mr. 10 out of 9 in confidence. Don't need anyone else

Number None, Saturday, 10 September 2011 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

There's now myp2p.bz but it's a bit shitty compared to the old one.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 10 September 2011 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

I can only assume that Sunderland were paying Gyan some suicidally high wages in a fit of post-World Cup idiocy. Very good player but hasn't quite set the Premiership alight. Although he might still have.

Matt DC, Saturday, 10 September 2011 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

scored ten goals last year, that's not a bad start.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 10 September 2011 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

Bruce has claimed that the constant speculation linking him with bigger clubs and higher wages elsewhere affected him mentally.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Saturday, 10 September 2011 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

Although, interestingly, they didn't get a single bid for him.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Saturday, 10 September 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I'm not saying 10 goals in his first season is bad at all, especially in a team as workmanlike as Sunderland, but if they are paying him crazy wages then it might not be considered worth it, hence the loan.

Either that or Gyan just hates Sunderland. I feel a bit sorry for Sunderland fans, no one ever seems to want to stay there.

Matt DC, Saturday, 10 September 2011 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

http://atdhenet.tv/ still the most consistent site for streams, ime

mizzell, Saturday, 10 September 2011 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

I use vipbox.tv, though recently a lot of the streams have that annoying screen asking for a mobile phone number

the art of posting sideways (onimo), Saturday, 10 September 2011 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

Tevez and Aguero starting for City. Innaresting

Number None, Saturday, 10 September 2011 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

Presumably this = Dzeko being rested for the big games, Tevez now seen as Carling Cup & home banker material.

the art of posting sideways (onimo), Saturday, 10 September 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

and Sturridge and Anelka for Chelsea + Merielles. Just Arteta and Mertesacker of the Arsenal new boys

Number None, Saturday, 10 September 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

Can't actually decide what game to watch

Number None, Saturday, 10 September 2011 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

CARRA OUT

Chris, Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

adthenet.tv just a word of warning, one of those links locked up Firefox forcing me to reboot. and also deleted all my Chrome settings.

Summer Slam! (Ste), Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

Ah, hopeless. Doing that 'arms out' thing in the aftermath just compounds it.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

COATES IN!

pandemic, Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

sorry atdhenet.tv

Summer Slam! (Ste), Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

Ah we never really believed this wouldn't be a loss did we?

LocalGarda, Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

ffs charlie adam

Chris, Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

Started well. Should still get a point. Maybe.

pandemic, Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

Stream's down, what's he done?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

some kind of shot from the halfway line type thing

Chris, Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

He really does think he's Xabi Alonso doesn't he?

pandemic, Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

Never a short ball when a long one is conceivable.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

Is there a better player with their back to a defender than Suarez?

Chris, Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

nice finish by Arshavin

boxall, Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

nice assist from vorm

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

took the kids into town, not sure whether i shd watch the second half in case i kiss of death it

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

lol tevez

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

whoa nice display name NV

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

:) thx

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

I kind of really want to see Carroll now, and a series of high balls for him to do his thing with.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

seem to have found a stream from Tottenham TV judging by the commentary. smart move pitching Bale against Wardy.

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

Henderson should've had a hattrick there.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

Good move that :(

1-0 Spurs

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

pretty sure we're about to sub Kights off for the wrong winger

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs commentator praising Parker's professional foul there

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

ok sweet he's bringing Hammill on as well

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

Don't worry NV, you never lose to Spurs.

Love it when one new signing sets up a goal for another though.

Matt DC, Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

apparently kun has scored three. any gems?

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

don't worry MDC, we ain't coming back from this.

Spurs sharper and quicker in the last 3rd, story of the second half.

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

tho y'know if Big Sam Vokes wants to make a claim for more football, now wd be a good time

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

BBC website has Stoke/LFC as 1-1 atm. Thought my stream was behind and awaited the equaliser with glee! That was 10 mins ago. It's not happening is it? :(

pandemic, Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

Downing has a good right foot doesn't he.

Chris, Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

No, but this siege is an encouraging way to lose at least.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

was xp obv

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

Never in a million years Suarez

Number None, Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

Never in a million years Suarez

hmm, doesn't have quite the same ring as Never in doubt. Those were the days.

Skrillex Ferguson (useless chamber), Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

no no no

Chris, Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

why does the Beeb's site still insist on giving Liverpool a point?

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

That was utterly agonising, but in a goodish way sort of.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck it

LocalGarda, Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

thought we played alright today, not enough guile or flair to unlock Spurs sadly and really wish Jamie O wd rein in the Hollywood passing a bit but plenty to take comfort from. have to resign myself to the fact that Mick will never make radical changes in a match or ever have much of a Plan B.

Adebayor looks like he wants it.

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

ah, the speculative whingeing of Evertonians

MPx4A, Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

Adebayor looks like he wants it.

He usually does, at first

Number None, Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

Anyone watch Arsenal?

Chris, Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

I did, they weren't great.

boxall, Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

Flatmate was. Said Swansea had much the better of the second half

Number None, Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

Single goal from a goalie(?) error against the might of Swansea doesn't sound too hot

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 September 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

very thrilling ending at the emirates. great pressure from swansea and graham nearly made it 1-1 with a volley but it went just above the bar. arteta looked good though, loss of cesc hardly the issue.

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 10 September 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

i haven't seen any stats but feeling is swansea had more shots on goal, at least in the second half?

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 10 September 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

RVP missed at least one chance he'd normally put away. They sat deeper in their own half than usual and shifted the balance of their offense toward counterattacking. Benayoun looked good when he came on late, I think what he provides is going to be needed more than Arteta.

boxall, Saturday, 10 September 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

lovely one-touch stuff for Aguero's 2nd today

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/sergio-aguero-2-wigan-15390661/

the art of posting sideways (onimo), Saturday, 10 September 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

The video on 101gg suggests Petrov's goal was the most nondescript 30 yarder ever

MPx4A, Saturday, 10 September 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

Well we had a pretty decent spell after that first goal. ;_;

Gukbe, Saturday, 10 September 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

Uh, is it just going to go on like this all season? City could regret not taking proper advantage of Wigan earlier.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 September 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

Hernandez's movement really is something else. Love this team right now

Number None, Saturday, 10 September 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

^ indeed. This has been a fantastic start to the season.

Prejudice Capsule Hamster (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 10 September 2011 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

rampant... like chelsea at the beginning of last season

♪ ♫ my baby SBs all day ♫ ♪ (cozen), Saturday, 10 September 2011 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/55282000/jpg/_55282804_manutd.jpg

Who's that lass second from the left?

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 September 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

oh my... need a GIF of anderson's no-look pass just then

♪ ♫ my baby SBs all day ♫ ♪ (cozen), Saturday, 10 September 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

you can tell he feels sexy again
― r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:24 (Yesterday)

♪ ♫ my baby SBs all day ♫ ♪ (cozen), Saturday, 10 September 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

i'm going to get a pumping in the fantasy football this week. no outfield man u players. no kun. fucking asamoah gyan in my team :/

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 10 September 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

got aguero as captain, rooney as vice

♪ ♫ my baby SBs all day ♫ ♪ (cozen), Saturday, 10 September 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

am a dick

♪ ♫ my baby SBs all day ♫ ♪ (cozen), Saturday, 10 September 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

Kun was such a done deal this week

All of my other players have done fuckall so I'm gonna be at the bottom of the Kun pile, thanking God that I'm not one of the hapless No Kun guys but wistfully wondering what might of been

This Utd team is just fucking riotously entertaining

MPx4A, Saturday, 10 September 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

For such a talented player, Nani can be a frustrating twat at times.

Prejudice Capsule Hamster (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 10 September 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

ferguson is clearly in bed with the devil. maybe he is the devil. there's no other explanation for how the players he has keep doing things like this.

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 10 September 2011 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

I think i love Phil Jones

Number None, Saturday, 10 September 2011 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

otm

♪ ♫ my baby SBs all day ♫ ♪ (cozen), Saturday, 10 September 2011 18:30 (thirteen years ago)

Cleverly's foot possibly broken, Davies you cunt

Number None, Saturday, 10 September 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think I can remember a better start to the season (for United). I don't mean statistically (although four wins and eight-six goals or whatever is pretty impressive), just the style, the way everything seems to be clicking. I can remember we won the first ten games in 1985, but none of it was televised so I have no idea what that looked like. Scoring 4 goals in the opening 20 minutes against Fulham in 2006 was damn good, but I can't remember what happened after that.

Prejudice Capsule Hamster (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 10 September 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

Infostrada Sports on Twitter: "Wayne Rooney becomes the 4th player in Premier League history to score consecutive hat tricks after Les Ferdinand, Ian Wright and Didier Drogba.

OptaJoe on Twitter: "18 - Man Utd have now broken the PL record for the most goals scored after four games of the season (18). Extraordinary."

Number None, Saturday, 10 September 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

Agreed NBS, and i don't think it's a coincidence that Berbatov isn't getting in the team.

Number None, Saturday, 10 September 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

Bit of a shame, that. Still, at least Owen's not playing.

Prejudice Capsule Hamster (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 10 September 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago)

city are gonna walk this aren't they?

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 10 September 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago)

need to see them against someone decent

♪ ♫ my baby SBs all day ♫ ♪ (cozen), Saturday, 10 September 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

tbh i think it's hoovering up points against the 14 other teams that'll push them over the line, obv premature but it's looking like the best 2 horse race in ages.

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 10 September 2011 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

Since last year in Spain, the way things are going.

Two things are interesting me underneath:

  • how long can Chelsea keep going? If they can keep winning, and then eventually do click as avb prods around, we may get a three-horse race yet.
  • how good are Stoke and what can they do? Liverpool pummelled them a bit today but they were strong enough to survive reasonably well. You can see them beating any of the 'other fourteen'. Are they actually top six contenders?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 September 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

stoke are an absolute nightmare to play. i think a lot of the coverage of DIRTY DIVING CHEATS masks the fact that the likes of stoke get away with a hell of a lot of nasty, snidey bullying and niggling. shawcross, jeez... to think we were linked with that fucker.

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 10 September 2011 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

was last year in spain a 2 horse race? i should pay more attention but from a distance it didn't really feel like real got barca off the bridle.

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 10 September 2011 19:45 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't see the Spurs game but this is a strange pattern of play for a central striker, must have been interesting to watch.

Barcelona dropped points in the fall iirc and had to chase for a while.

boxall, Saturday, 10 September 2011 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

There were four points in it but Real didn't get close to Barca in the games between them.

Number None, Saturday, 10 September 2011 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

barca didn't run away with it by any means. i expect the same this season.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 10 September 2011 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

Well Real have taken the advantage today. Just about

Number None, Saturday, 10 September 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

ade trying hard to please by the looks of it, blimey. xp not that barca ran away with it but just had the feel of NEVER IN DOUBT. a bit like liverpool 08/09 ;_;

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 10 September 2011 19:54 (thirteen years ago)

Jeez Louise, I can't believe people are making this into a two horse race already. There's still 34 games to play. I can totally see Man City disintegrate later on this season due to having a shit coach and not being as cunning and automatic as ManU, say. If Chelsea keep hanging on they are well in this still.

And don't rule out Wolves ffs.

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 10 September 2011 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

Pundits giving it the 2 horse race theory already are quite funny.

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 September 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

To be fair it was obviously a three-horse race before the season started, calling it two-horse now is really no more than saying Chelsea ain't all that.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 September 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

i'm no pundit.

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 10 September 2011 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea ain't all that.

They're still picking up the points. And last season their form was insanely erratic: I don't think I've ever known a team go from being so dominant to so shit (and then sort themselves out again). There's no reason to think they'll be any more consistent this season - who knows what they'll be playing like in a few months' time?

Prejudice Capsule Hamster (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 10 September 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

As long as they keep Torres on the bench eh?

Number None, Saturday, 10 September 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

how was meireles, anybody?

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 10 September 2011 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

i wasn't thinking of pundits on here so much as professionals. but no way are Chelsea write-offable yet and we've seen teams go from unstoppable to stuck in a rut season in season out.

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 September 2011 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

also *cough*Liverpool*cough*

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 September 2011 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool are good again but they are not title race material this year.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 September 2011 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

i'd consider them rank outsiders but we'll see. obviously 4th game predictions have a great track record.

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 September 2011 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

weird dalglish interview after the game suggesting that respecting referees is costing us points and that he might have to think again and be a bit more "destructive" o_O

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 10 September 2011 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

Rank outsiders - I can go for that. Realistically should get fourth, might finish ahead of Chelsea, no way are they finishing above either Manchester side.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 September 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

I'm in two minds about whether to start a thread asking a fairly obscure question about the first world war. I might not bother. I might just ask it here instead.

Prejudice Capsule Hamster (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 10 September 2011 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

fergie didn't fight in WWI, no

♪ ♫ my baby SBs all day ♫ ♪ (cozen), Saturday, 10 September 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

Britain won aet

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 September 2011 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

Uwe Rossler's great grandad was not a Zeppelin pilot iirc

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 September 2011 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

Victory parade before crowds on The Mall chanting 'one world war and no world cups, doo dah' iirc

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 September 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

sir alex will have been fuhrerous

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

*must stop posting then forgetting about it*

Prejudice Capsule Hamster (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 10 September 2011 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

"plucky little [________]" <-- actual cause of hostilites breaking out

mark s, Saturday, 10 September 2011 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

ha

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

"he's been caught in no man's land, no idea what he's doing there to be honest"

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 September 2011 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

rooney goebbels up those chances

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

legendary match in no man's land final score 4-2 to england in extra time

"they think it's all over, it will be by christmas"

mark s, Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

Austria-Hungary went to pieces during the run-in

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

city are incredible

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

tackle by davies on cleverly was innocuous enougn imo? Yeah, through the man but not straight leg and not down on the foot.

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

for all the decisions i've seen given in carragher's favour over the years, that's an incredibly soft penalty

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

henderson..........

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

That Liverpool penalty appeal at the end was fucking bollocks

MPx4A, Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

"A Difficult Place to Go" should basically be on the "Welcome to Stoke" sign on the motorway at this point

MPx4A, Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, but the first was nailed on and the one that went against them was dodge.

Phil Thompson today claimed that 'for me, Crouch is the better player' re Adebayor. Stupid cunt.

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

I'unno, I wasn't that outraged by any of those decisions

MPx4A, Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

In the Liverpool game, I'll give you the Ade/Crouch one

MPx4A, Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

rafa's gone and i like em better now, but it'll be a long day yet when a decision going against liverpool will 'outrage' me tbf.

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

both liverpool shouts could be construed as ball to hand, the second one for sure. carragher fell over for the stoke pen but why oh why did he have his arms wrapped round walters' groin in the first place? been a liability for a couple of years now and it's sad to see.

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

sturrrrrridge

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

felt carragher was shoved for pen tbh, also ball-to-hand negated by distance of hand from body in first shout.

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

meireles with the sturridge assist :(

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

i'm supposed to be the biased red ffs xp

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

ffs chelsea

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:43 (thirteen years ago)

ok this Steve Bruce interview is borderline sexually arousing 2 me

MPx4A, Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

drown me in the sweet water of your tears

MPx4A, Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

great news for my fantasy league team name but oh my, asa, you fooled me. suarez was the avenging angel after all.

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

can't believe gyan went on loan without sunderland accepting an offer or anything

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

first Brucie knew about it was from a shit-smeared postcard.

known for melding an outrageous stage presence with tenacious hooks (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

bittahly disappointed t'dee

MPx4A, Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

Pretty sure Agbonlahor actually threw his shirt into the crowd and then had to ask for it back at length when he remembered there were ten minutes left to play

MPx4A, Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

think Moyes asked for ominous lighting on his interview.

known for melding an outrageous stage presence with tenacious hooks (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't realise Everton should've had two other pens, pretty shabby

MPx4A, Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

fuckin refs.

Delph, eh

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

He had a bad game, good riddance

Barry Bannan was pretty good

MPx4A, Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

amazing balls up from the Swansea keeper there.

known for melding an outrageous stage presence with tenacious hooks (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 10 September 2011 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

Arshavin, on the other hand, would be a fine player if he never had to take more than two steps to do anything.

known for melding an outrageous stage presence with tenacious hooks (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 10 September 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

bannan's good, yeah.

While i'm sympathising with carragher i'm as well to point out that scezceny's looking good

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

as stupid as vorm was there it's only a handful of players that would've punished him for it. makes me more annoyed at arsh tbh.

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 10 September 2011 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

mertesacker might bring lols, nakh could have called that one

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

niko looking wtf so far

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

Cleverly:

'Not feeling good. Feeling like I have broken my foot. Won't know more until a scan, when I know more will update,' he said.
'So angry right now, want everyone to know I got no apology from kevin davies! season could be over and received no apology.'

Number None, Saturday, 10 September 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

wwcd? Luckily, adebayor doesn't stop to consider.

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 23:11 (thirteen years ago)

He had a bit of a think

MPx4A, Saturday, 10 September 2011 23:11 (thirteen years ago)

davies has always been a wrong'un. it's weird that he seems to have been playing for over a decade yet still looks like a 6 year old with gigantism

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 10 September 2011 23:18 (thirteen years ago)

I'm probably the worst person to comment on Carragher after his "Being a squad player is not enough" interview in The Times this morning.

Chris, Saturday, 10 September 2011 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

Pleased for De Gea yesterday btw. Didn't have much to do but did it well and almost set up a goal

Number None, Sunday, 11 September 2011 09:09 (thirteen years ago)

D_DeGea David De Gea
Great match!! 0-5 against Bolton with an incredible play... we hope to keep going like this... Hugs to all

Aw

Number None, Sunday, 11 September 2011 09:16 (thirteen years ago)

how long a contract did we give give carragher when he re-upped? 3 years? Surely not 4?

pandemic, Sunday, 11 September 2011 10:44 (thirteen years ago)

tenure iirc

the art of posting sideways (onimo), Sunday, 11 September 2011 10:56 (thirteen years ago)

lol

pandemic, Sunday, 11 September 2011 11:00 (thirteen years ago)

How have Man United got so good so quickly? Compared to the dour shite they were mostly serving up last season, every single player seems to have just come screaming out of the blocks. Actually really annoyed about the Cleverly injury, hope it doesn't kill his momentum because England are sorely in need of really good passing midfielders.

Chelsea look like a slightly different proposition with Mata, Mereiles and Sturridge in there. They're picking up points without looking amazing and it's better to creep up slowly than explode into life and then go shite like they did last year. Reckon AVB doesn't know his best team yet but he'll get there.

Matt DC, Sunday, 11 September 2011 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

God, Stoke fans must take absurd pleasure when they see things like their entire defence suicidally flinging themselves in front of five Jordan Henderson shots in a row.

Matt DC, Sunday, 11 September 2011 11:42 (thirteen years ago)

Dropping Berbatov, Rooney and Anderson hitting form, the addition of Young. Simple really

Number None, Sunday, 11 September 2011 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

Dropping Carrick might have had an effect as well.

Villas-Boas' skinny tie is an excellent look for a football manager. Man though if Sturride had fluffed that backheel he'd have been absolutely destroyed. Sunderland defence is pretty woeful.

Matt DC, Sunday, 11 September 2011 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

God, Stoke fans must take absurd pleasure when they see things like their entire defence suicidally flinging themselves in front of five Jordan Henderson shots in a row.

That was a brilliant sequence. Between Henderson and Adam I think Liverpool had five or six shots on target in something like 12 seconds.

the art of posting sideways (onimo), Sunday, 11 September 2011 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

Even Carrick didn't manage to balls things up too badly when he came on yesterday. When Rooney plays well, Utd play well, and this might be the best i've ever seen him play.

Number None, Sunday, 11 September 2011 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

Meireles had Chelsea fans purring, and the team is looking so much more mobile and fluent with him, Sturridge and Mata. Sturridge has the audacity of youth that we've been missing since Robben.

This is the strongest squad we've had for a while - yesterday was the first game for years when it was hard to predict the starting XI - and I think we can have a very good season, but just wish the United game wasn't coming round so soon... Our defence still playing very high and Young and Nani could murder us. Be very, very pleased with a point.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 11 September 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

I like that Agüero plays with plain black boots, it brings a touch of olde worlde tradition back to the EPL and I'll cling to anything these days.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 September 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

I can't say we were missing Meireles yesterday exactly, they played well enough, but we're certainly not the stronger for being without him.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 September 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

I am a bit worried about Suarez running out of puff though - a few chances have fallen his way in the games so far where he's been less than lethal. He's probably at 99%, like, it's just a boggle that the missing touch is a sign of incipient fatigue.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 September 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

how long a contract did we give give carragher when he re-upped? 3 years? Surely not 4?

He signed a 2 year extension in October 2010, taking his contract to 2013.

Chris, Sunday, 11 September 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

ta chris. if he's the first choice CB for the start of next season then something's gone horribly wrong imo

pandemic, Sunday, 11 September 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

Negotiated that deal when the club's future was up in the air, of course. Legend.

Chris, Sunday, 11 September 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

I do like him and I actually think he's got something to offer in a marshalling-type role - but it's at least a couple of years already since I started wondering out loud if he's totally shot.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 September 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

We didn't miss him when he was injured last season. I didn't once think, "If only we had Carra to organise the defence."

Chris, Sunday, 11 September 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool's gargantuan shitfest and owner probs in the last two years have allowed carra to grow moss like some dignified statue in the centre of a depraved banana republic, solely valued due to familiarity in a time of flux.

LocalGarda, Sunday, 11 September 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

oh, that's beautiful

pandemic, Sunday, 11 September 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

He should do the decent thing and accept his destiny as Neville's sidekick on Sky Sports.

Number None, Sunday, 11 September 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

A Saint and Greavsie for the 2010's

pandemic, Sunday, 11 September 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

This how you do it with dignity folks

The end came for me on New Year's Day, 2011 - and it came on a toilet at The Hawthorns. It wasn't the way I'd have chosen to finish, but I knew for certain that this was my last game.
After 18 years at Manchester United, after 602 first-team appearances, I was in the middle of playing for my team for the last time.

Number None, Sunday, 11 September 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

saint and greavsie/cunt and cuntier

xpost

LocalGarda, Sunday, 11 September 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe if I'd suggested a stewarding-type role for Carra, that would've received more favour?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 September 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

a silent sentinel role

LocalGarda, Sunday, 11 September 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

semi-sentient more like

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Sunday, 11 September 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

Excited about tonight at Loftus Road. The lights. Half a new team. Beatable opposition.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Monday, 12 September 2011 09:33 (thirteen years ago)

gomes out

We had an offer of 10m for dos santos during the window!

Offering modric an improved contract makes no sense

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:13 (thirteen years ago)

Special guest star: Kolo Toure.

James Mitchell, Monday, 12 September 2011 10:30 (thirteen years ago)

Why did Spurs leave VdV out of the European squad?

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:37 (thirteen years ago)

not bothered about euruefa cugue

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:41 (thirteen years ago)

He's not a happy camper though, if the Dutch media are to believed. Pissed off that no-one told him. Lol.

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:42 (thirteen years ago)

hey guys i p much missed this weekend, cleverly rip?

anything else going on?

i'm interested about a liverpool assessment - was it because stoke were really good or was their problems integrating their new midfield? did carroll play?

we got 3 points, fuck a performance at the moment. confidence and points are much more important to collect at the moment.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:55 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool lost cos disrespectful refs are battering them with wrong decisions iirc

be sure to check local garda's autumnwatch cuntwatch series for all the details

r|t|c, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool lost cos of an embarrassing mishap by Carragher, cos of a slight lack of guile up front though they played well enough, and cos Stoke are actually pretty good. Liverpool did swamp them a bit, but still. Carroll came on, you can imagine what the penalty area looked like from then on.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

ref kinda screwed them tbh but also lol finishing

Vdv barely makes it through 90 mins as is i'd go with keeping him league-only tbh

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:12 (thirteen years ago)

bellamy gave the team a bit of pep when he came on i thought but yeah 'pool shouldnt have lost that game

Michael B, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

I think i love Phil Jones

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otm

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yeah 4real, big jonesy has inherited carroll's big english mancrush mantle this season (still got love for andy though). think phil kinda has an endearing rugger bugger posho charging around the pitch 1940s/50s thing going.

r|t|c, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

i'm interested about a liverpool assessment - was it because stoke were really good or was their problems integrating their new midfield?

Come on dude surely nearly everyone expects things like this to happen when they go to Stoke?

Matt DC, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:35 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I know, I just wanted to know how Liverpool were at dealing with it.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

also now they have Crouch I do kinda expect Stoke to get worse.

btw the time's game podcasts have been doing extra episodes that are way more interesting than their normal ones, last week they covered italian strikers, the week before that was how footballers feel about journos, this week the decline of scottish football. the only really good one was the italian strikers one but i feel like it could be something to pay attention to over the season if put more interesting and obscure topics on the 'extra' ones.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

crouch will tear stoke's game apart

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

Why would Crouch make Stoke worse? It's not like they were playing silky passing football beforehand, and it's not like any of their strikers were exactly goal machines either.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

because their game is aerially inclined, and he's awful in the air?

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

^^^^^ding ding ding ding

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 September 2011 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

wonder if pulis can change him at this stage? Can't do much about his back musculature.

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

so everyone sees it from the german thread, such a great punchline:

Ah, I love Felix Magath

€10k: Fines for Wolfsburg strikers Patrick Helmes and Mario Mandzukic for "failing to follow tactics" in a 4-1 defeat last month. Other routine fines at Wolfsburg: €1000 for an "unnecessary backpass", €500 for failing to control a high ball before it bounces, plus €250 for wearing headphones on the coach. Players' union: "This really isn't legal."

― pandemic, Sunday, 11 September 2011 12:34 (Yesterday)

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 September 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

fuckem, organisation rules can prob be bent for multimillionaire professionals. Magath otm.

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

€500 for failing to control a high ball before it bounces

too soft imo

the art of posting sideways (onimo), Monday, 12 September 2011 12:17 (thirteen years ago)

"unnecessary backpass" fine would bankrupt mario ;_;

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 September 2011 12:17 (thirteen years ago)

Cleverly has ligament damage. Out for a month.

Number None, Monday, 12 September 2011 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

phil jones is not a big, he is fast and reasonably skilful for a defender

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 September 2011 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

He is a Rolls-Royce iirc

Number None, Monday, 12 September 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

I like Phil Jones atm but he does have 'future member of the england team i dispise' written all over him (along with jack but i am more torn w/ arsenal players.)

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 September 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

i wasn't too fond of him when he tried to break bale

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

i despise the england team but kinda like individual players

jones could be one, rodwell too

still sort of like gerrard (nightclub incidents and all) and stewart downing

wilshere is a lil bastard already

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 September 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

have always hated stevie me. one thing that gives me hope w/ jones is i can't see him as either a merking rio type or a ebjt type.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 September 2011 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

not yet, sure

Like rio quite a bit tbh

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

rio and lampy fwamps are p much scum since that ayia napa video iirc

ashley cole is secretly alright

think joe hart might be a terrible person

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 September 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

joe hart imo has 'incredibly boring dude who somehow trumps the rest of the england team to become main pundit on motd' vibes.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 September 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

Smalling seems inoffensive. Cleverly has an annoying face.

Number None, Monday, 12 September 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

i'm happy to consider rio and ff on a rolling basis

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

ie blunts and down a hill, respectively

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

ff? fat frank?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 September 2011 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

None of these new dudes are worse than Wilshere. Highly talented player, vile little shit.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 September 2011 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

scott parker's hair annoys me

Chris, Monday, 12 September 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

truth

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

http://images.clicklancashire.com/admin/article/articleimages/1275034598-Jack_Wilshere.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/mZEpI.jpg

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 September 2011 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

Scott Parker's hair is an integral part of his old-skool image. Without it there wouldn't be anywhere near as many reporters salivating about his workrate and attitude and application like back when the game were played by gentlemen.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 September 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah he's the budget range Zanetti

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 September 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

joe hart imo has 'incredibly boring dude who somehow trumps the rest of the england team to become main pundit on motd' vibes.

― Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 September 2011 14:37 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdCS_vwLe9k

r|t|c, Monday, 12 September 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

still like that he's really called charles hart though

r|t|c, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

i cant see youtubes here, so...?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 September 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

not sure i quite get the scotty p hair characterisation, like sometimes it does look neat and sideparted but mostly it's just a long scraggly mess? i think the source of irritation is that it is trying to be something but it's unclear what.

either way he has always always looked like a textbook tottenham player, whatever that means

r|t|c, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

Joe Hart's drunken binge

Uploaded by tyughjbnmw on 12 Oct 2010
England goalie Joe Hart drunkenly dancing on a bar at 3am with two blondes in a two-day bender. Only 36 hours before joining squad for Euro 2012 qualifing game against Montenegro. Teammate Gareth Barry was also there.

r|t|c, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

Teammate Gareth Barry was also there

Sums him up nicely

Number None, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/lookalikes/68088/shit-lookalikes-scott-parker-a-tibetan-fox.html

haha

those foxes are so lol

r|t|c, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

We had an offer of 10m for dos santos during the window!

― hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, September 12, 2011 6:13 AM (3 hours ago)
13 with add ons! kinda strange he would refuse to go to udinese.

mizzell, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

gazza bazza's a hard one to figure out, like i believe joey barton when he says he's a teacher's pet but he might well just be a lads ringleader on the sly

r|t|c, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

The north Londoners were made the amazing offer for the Mexican misfit by Udinese during the summer. The Serie A side were flush after selling winger Alexis Sanchez to Barcelona for £24million.

Dos Santos, however, ended up scuppering the deal.

Redknapp said: “Gio wanted to move. But we couldn’t let him go. We had a £13m offer from Udinese for him.

“It was £10million down and £3m do-able bonuses. A big sell-on. He wouldn’t go. He wanted to go to Seville who were offering 3million Euros. You can’t blame the chairman for not letting him go.”

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 September 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

Barry's a boring fucker. Don't think there's much to him.

Re: Dos Santos, I presume the clubbing scene in Udine isn't a patch on London?

Matt DC, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

i suppose arry would know about do-able bonuses

r|t|c, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

i thought he flew to barcelona from london for his clubbing already

mizzell, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe there's no direct route from Udine?

Matt DC, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

the cunt can't find his way from lw to the opposition goal, let's not overtask him

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

I was going to be fair-minded and say something about him knowing he can play in La Liga, but I suspect my first instinct is correct and he's just a lazy arse.

Speaking of which, it took a Graun article at the weekend to remind me that Wayne Bridge is still at Man City.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

the article that informed us good readers that a) wayne bridge is being paid appx £20m by manchester city and b) he is schtupping thebig_sam fave frankie 'teardrop' sandford

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 September 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

and c) that he isn't in Man City's 25 man Prem squad. Except he is.

pandemic, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

two completely unrelated pieces of info, there

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

Why have City named him in the squad tbh?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

for the record i love scott parker and his hair.

mizzell, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

counts as 'home grown' iirc
xp

pandemic, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

the article that informed us good readers that a) wayne bridge is being paid appx £20m by manchester city and b) he is schtupping thebig_sam fave frankie 'teardrop' sandford

I liked the tidbit about him having played an entire season in the Premiership without a single cross connecting with a team-mate.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

oh yeah meant to say, i think parker's great.

Has provided a credible alternative to modric, will be interesting to see how that plays out. Only saw brief highlights, how was the prodigal son at the weekend.

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

Played pretty well, one amazing pass out to BAE bombing forward. He must look at pictures of Raul Mereiles and weep.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

harry seemed to suggest that sandro and parker would play in the middle and that modric "can play elsewhere"

mizzell, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

modric was great on the left tbf

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

does arry still come out with his "i think bale will be a top class left back" cobblers every so often?

r|t|c, Monday, 12 September 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

horrible thought. Fine as an option where we're really battering an entrenched opposition, but there again it's not like bae can't play a bit.

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

Gareth Bale:

http://www.calwatchdog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Eddie_Munster_closeup.jpg

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

end of last season, arry was talking up danny rose as a potential top left back. bale is still listed as a defender on the spurs website.

mizzell, Monday, 12 September 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

HELLO football fans! can u help?

i am trying to sub this piece but fact-checking is proving something of a trial. is it accurate to say tottenham hotspur has won "17 major trophies"? that doesn't jive with anything i'm counting on wikipedia but i don't know what yall consider a "major trophy" (and neither does anyone else on this desk lol)

i asked for "HALF" a glass of wine, because i am TEMPERENT (lex pretend), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

i wish, lex

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

if not 17 how many?

i asked for "HALF" a glass of wine, because i am TEMPERENT (lex pretend), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

in our entire history, it's possible. If the statement's in that context i guess it might be correct, though it would be a strange context.

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

also i guess...since when? i *think* he's talking about, like, in their whole history of existence

ha xp - what would be a sensible context/timeframe?

i asked for "HALF" a glass of wine, because i am TEMPERENT (lex pretend), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

FIRST TEAM
Football League Champions 1950-51, 1960-61
F.A.Cup Winners 1900-01, 1920-21, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1966-67, 1980-81, 1981-82, 1990-91
Football League Cup Winners 1970-71, 1972-73, 1998-99, 2007-08
European Cup-Winners Cup Winners 1962-63
UEFA Cup Winners 1971-72, 1983-84

=17

I'd change "has" to "have" though...

the art of posting sideways (onimo), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

in the context of the piece it's basically saying "stop moaning about your team that's won so much compared to lower league teams that haven't won shit"

i asked for "HALF" a glass of wine, because i am TEMPERENT (lex pretend), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

excellent! thx onimo. and that's 17 in their whole history yeah?

i asked for "HALF" a glass of wine, because i am TEMPERENT (lex pretend), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

probably 12, on a quick count on that wiki page. Leaving out 2nd division and charity shields/league cups/anglo italian league cup

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

league cups were major trophies for most of history deems, dismissing them as mickey mouse cups is a fairly recent phenomenon

the art of posting sideways (onimo), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

FIRST TEAM
Football League Champions 1950-51, 1960-61
F.A.Cup Winners 1900-01, 1920-21, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1966-67, 1980-81, 1981-82, 1990-91
Football League Cup Winners 1970-71, 1972-73, 1998-99, 2007-08
European Cup-Winners Cup Winners 1962-63
UEFA Cup Winners 1971-72, 1983-84

=17

oh i see where i was getting confused - 1950-51 = ONE trophy right? rather the winning it in 1950 and then again in 1951?

i asked for "HALF" a glass of wine, because i am TEMPERENT (lex pretend), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

13, i'd say, sorry

In that context- i'd probably say 'frequent qualification for european competition and a number of league cups' is more relevant, lex

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

*rather than

i asked for "HALF" a glass of wine, because i am TEMPERENT (lex pretend), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

Lex subbing a piece about football ... The original writer will be surprised to see the par in the middle about how football grounds should be torn up and moved away from houses, because once a fortnight Lex finds it inconvenient coming home c5pm.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

recent history, like

Point taken onimo, i'd argue that any league cup after leicester is a 'small trophy' tho

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

yes Lex that's entire history and ignoring minor trophies and invitation tournaments and things

1950-51 = ONE trophy right?

yes, as seasons span years (August to May, typically)

the art of posting sideways (onimo), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

imma go with 17 sorry darragh, it's what the writer (who presumably does know what he's talking about) put + backed up by onimo and a concrete set of stats

ithappens i have now moved away! driven from house and home by the marauding forces of football fans :(

i asked for "HALF" a glass of wine, because i am TEMPERENT (lex pretend), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

np lex, it's a debatable point but in context yeah, not many teams win the league cup i suppose

Feel like reviving the TOTTENHAM ARE A BIG CLUB thread now

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

Lex subbing a piece about football ...

coming soon: Lex's Comedy Store reviews

the art of posting sideways (onimo), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

league cups were major trophies for most of history deems, dismissing them as mickey mouse cups is a fairly recent phenomenon

this is totes happening in women's tennis right now btw

i asked for "HALF" a glass of wine, because i am TEMPERENT (lex pretend), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

Lex spends a year on the road with Animal Collective

pandemic, Monday, 12 September 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

i had to sub some comedy pieces last week too, basically i don't miss opportunities to make any harsh adjectives i see a bit harsher

i asked for "HALF" a glass of wine, because i am TEMPERENT (lex pretend), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

lol

pandemic, Monday, 12 September 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

league cup is a 'major trophy'

that is what the phrase means, whether or not deems thinks x trophy is valid cuz manchester united had it handed to them via masonic conspiracy

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

ok don't start, i'm not to be blamed for my high standards ffs

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

i come back from a weekend away to find a homemade lex joke and lex asking football questions in my bookmarks.

are you ok dude? need to hug it out?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

i think the phrase is still used so that certain ppl cant claim that the emirates cup is a 'major trophy' even tho it is def a major trophy in its own way

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

the corn acla was a major trophy in its own way i don't have it on my fuckin cv or anythin

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

if clubs do not play their first team for games in that comp it isnt a 'major' trophy thus the carling cup hasn't been considered worth fighting for as a 'major trophy' for a decade.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal's first team either weren't fit or had moved tbf

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

the teams that actually win it usually field strong teams

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vICA0EAOX24/TFWv-oAG3pI/AAAAAAAABBM/mC9ZyN0xXKw/s1600/emirates+cup.jpg

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

pretty strong squad afair


Sunday, 27 February 2011
Carling Cup
Home Team Score Away Team Time
Arsenal 1-2 Birmingham FT
(HT 1-1)
Van Persie 39
Zigic 28
Martins 89

Arsenal
53 Szczesny
03 Sagna
06 Koscielny
20 Djourou
22 Clichy
07 Rosicky
08 Nasri
17 A Song
19 Wilshere
23 Arshavin (Chamakh 77)
10 Van Persie (Bendtner 69)

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

lol xps

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

yeah but they werent rly trying

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

53 20 22 17 19 23

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

level of effort in terms of percentage

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

oh i see where i was getting confused - 1950-51 = ONE trophy right? rather the winning it in 1950 and then again in 1951?

― i asked for "HALF" a glass of wine, because i am TEMPERENT (lex pretend), Monday, September 12, 2011 5:16 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark

Aww Lex this is just so damn cute :-)

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

surprised wenger wasn't fined for fielding mostly their carling cup squad against last year's league leaders, throwing the game in order to save their players for the clash with swansea.


Arsenal
13 Szczesny
06 Koscielny
20 Djourou
25 Jenkinson
30 Traore
07 Rosicky
14 Walcott (Lansbury 83)
16 Ramsey
23 Arshavin
39 Coquelin (Oxlade-Chamberlain 62)
10 Van Persie (Chamakh 83)

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

xp in tennis winning Wimbledon 2007-08 = winning it twice, as is entirely sensible and intuitive

i asked for "HALF" a glass of wine, because i am TEMPERENT (lex pretend), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

Lex, I know! It's just cute. Not laughing at you, laughing with you etc.

A football season always starts in one year and ends in the next year, so: '09-'10, '10-'11 etc

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

non-calendar year grand slams work in the same way..

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

Football's already such a basic sport, we cherish this annotation as it seems at least half sophisticated lol

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

maybe with the move into the footballing world and the new-found love of British Sea Power (~allegedly~) Lex is slowly transforming into Louis J.

known for melding an outrageous stage presence with tenacious hooks (Merdeyeux), Monday, 12 September 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

world ~turning~ upside down

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 September 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

Oh god my poor reputation ;_;

i asked for "HALF" a glass of wine, because i am TEMPERENT (lex pretend), Monday, 12 September 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

I think this is what Lex's recently uncovered love of British Sea Power's Lately has been leading up to ...

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Monday, 12 September 2011 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

Sorry: just noticed BSP already mentioned.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Monday, 12 September 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

lex what is your opinion on 'super' mario balotelli?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 September 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

So, Dispatches tonight then? Doubt there'll anything really shocking in it

Number None, Monday, 12 September 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

What's this?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 September 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

A Premier League footballer who failed a drugs test and then made a 'multi-million pound' transfer without the buying club being informed of the result will be named and shamed in a TV investigation on Monday night.

boxall, Monday, 12 September 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

THE TRUTH ABOUT DRUGS IN FOOTBALL. Channel 4 at 8. Supposedly naming players who have tested positive for cocaine.

Number None, Monday, 12 September 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

lol my guess is bentley to spurs

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 September 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

Twitter seems to think it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_O%27Connor#Birmingham_City

boxall, Monday, 12 September 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

I was thinking Liverpool defender

Number None, Monday, 12 September 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

O'Connor was arrested for cocaine possession at the end of last season, while he was training with Celtic iirc.

onimo, Monday, 12 September 2011 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

a lot of coke use in scottish football. can't go into specifics obv. there was even someone in a former spl club who was involved in dealing.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 12 September 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

Bentley is a no-brainer. See also all yr bigtime charlies currently playing in reserve teams. Bridge, Routledge maybe. Is Marcus Bent still playing?

Matt DC, Monday, 12 September 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

Although I suppose in those cases the club would name and shame just to get them off the wage bill.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 September 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

hoping barton is big for QPR

is it hrostep? (cozen), Monday, 12 September 2011 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

O'Connor, then.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 September 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

O'Connor confirmed as the drugs ban player. The presenter of this show is enormously irritating so i'm going to have to stop watching.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Monday, 12 September 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

lol i love when these shitty shows trail big revelations and then announce sthing like this

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 September 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

this is truly the game of lost talents, looking fwd to swp taraabt barton obertan ferdinand jr et al demonstrating the diminutive water feature effect

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

this is rly good from qpr tbf

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah if O'Connor's the headline name I'm not expecting Rooney to crop up as an aside in part III.

Wtf is this stuff being hushed up for though? What other sport would act like this?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 September 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

i love j bothroyd. He's the next k davies imo, a proper cf. He knows. Cunt.

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

sorry lapsed into voice of keane there

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

bothroyd is a bit of a plum tbh

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 12 September 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

Wtf is this stuff being hushed up for though? What other sport nation would act like this?

Fixed that for ye. Ryan Giggs never forget etc

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 September 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

football more or less complies with wada no?

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 12 September 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

and testing players for recreational drugs seems silly/illiberal?

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 12 September 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

http://fantasypremierleaguetransfers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/anderson-Man-United.jpg

Pizzataco Five (admrl), Monday, 12 September 2011 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

"A" necklace

Pizzataco Five (admrl), Monday, 12 September 2011 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

bothroyd knows his job. He's no wannabe footballer. Swp taraabt looking very useful here, obertan....not

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

i'm starting to hate newcastle.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 12 September 2011 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

qpr should prob be two up

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 19:45 (thirteen years ago)

Nice to see tonight's game get a little attention here - yesterday's two weren't even mentioned. Super Sunday my arse.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 September 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

was at a funeral without phone coverage tbf

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

Ruiz had a mare apparently

Number None, Monday, 12 September 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

dawson out for two months.

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 23:02 (thirteen years ago)

who is ye current back up? kaboul?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 September 2011 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

poor big daws still recovering from being raked by sergio aguero

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 September 2011 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

gallas king kaboul bassong

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

ok but realistically

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 September 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

i'm conflicted, he's been badly at fault for prob three/four goals already this year but he won't be facing city or utd every week, and he's one of very few leaders we have. RIP

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

realistically it's prob kaboul bassong for the next few months. Might be good for them.

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

Dawson Kaboul Gallas King Bassong
Vermaelen Koscielny Djourou Squillaci Mertesacker

45 possible pairings, pick the one that makes the most league starts and win.

Would have been more fun if we'd done it before the injuries had begun.

boxall, Monday, 12 September 2011 23:28 (thirteen years ago)

hoping djourou squillaci obv

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 23:31 (thirteen years ago)

oooooooooh that were frustrating. the rangers game i mean.

obv plenty of positives given the circumstances but terrible nagging feeling knowing we're wasting valuable points from dogshit teams before a horrible little period coming up soon. bothroyd not nearly enough of a cunt imo, should have bundled in ball/man/goal and stand at least a couple of times and spent too long whingeing and rubbing off phantom injuries for my liking. a little disappointed with warnock for not shaking it up a bit more with the subs, lack of fluency in final third was clear and like-for-like wasnt ever gonna cut it.

swp looked tasty if casual on occasion, barton for however much he's paid needs to be a little more more than some magic sigil mascot of spirit etc, faurlin excellent, and great to be reminded why tarbs is lovable after all.

r|t|c, Monday, 12 September 2011 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

also steven taylor is a fucking mong dickhead but i guess you already knew that

r|t|c, Monday, 12 September 2011 23:51 (thirteen years ago)

yah

h8 him

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 September 2011 23:52 (thirteen years ago)

how bad were newcastle as well. i know the media are gonna be like they did a job on us and resisted the tide of good vibes or whatever but that's pure bollocks, we were shakey at times and they were just woeful

r|t|c, Monday, 12 September 2011 23:53 (thirteen years ago)

yes, he's like a normalised terry or something, can't even admire his dedication to public cuntishness.

Faurlin taraabt and swp will provide chances though, can't ask them to gel all at once rly

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Monday, 12 September 2011 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

otoh i do feel a little conflicted abt newcastle, like there were all these magpies in the pub spouting off about how nolan ran the team and ashley should have ceded to giving him a 60k contract til he's 34 - well no, on paper getting rid of these clunking totems of british bullshit for french quality on frees should be how you do it really. all turning out gash tho unfortunately

r|t|c, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 00:00 (thirteen years ago)

Bit early for that kind of talk, no?

Number None, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

they'll be ok i think. Not on tonight's evidence, admittedly

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 00:02 (thirteen years ago)

i think taylor's more a grotesqueified terry if anything, like a proper village idiot woodcut rendering of the game's snide arts

can't get his gurning face right in front of kenny at the free kick out of my head tbh

r|t|c, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 00:03 (thirteen years ago)

i think they are probably waiting for CTOBB king rakey pardew himself to revert to the mean so they can get a manager and maybe they can buy a forward too

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 00:04 (thirteen years ago)

Bit early for that kind of talk, no?

― Number None, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 01:01 (1 minute ago) Bookmark

yah probably. noodles did say i'd be surprised at how shit prem teams were and i guess i'm still coming to terms w/ it

r|t|c, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 00:05 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't see any of the game tonight mind

Number None, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 00:07 (thirteen years ago)

lol magpies in the pub were adamant that neither hughton or pardew ran/run the team at all and it was all down to a mysterious nolan/barton/some other noble english bloke cabal

the tearful misty eyes when talking abt kev nolan had to be seen to be believed, honestly

r|t|c, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 00:07 (thirteen years ago)

lol

I like nolan, but ffs

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 00:08 (thirteen years ago)

oh shit son and it's title chasing wolves away next

r|t|c, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago)

's a must-win for us, true

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 06:28 (thirteen years ago)

looking forward to the revival of "won't somebody think of the Joeys?" even tho Barton was having a laugh with Big Mick after that last Newcastle match.

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 06:31 (thirteen years ago)

It seemed to me that, while obv the R's were the better side, they didn't really look like scoring. Suspect the front line just needs to play together a bit more before the goals come and I really hope SWP has found his club. Only paid scant attention to the second half so forgive me if I've misread the game.

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 07:24 (thirteen years ago)

A LIVERPOOL star sparked outrage on the tenth anniversary of 9/11 by claiming the terrorist attacks were "an accident".

Striker Nathan Eccleston, 20, tweeted that he believed the "Illuminati secret society" was behind the atrocity.

He ended his message with the initials OTIS, for Only The Illuminati Succeed.

He wrote: "I aint going to say attack don't let the media make u believe that was terrorist that did it.. #O.T.I.S."

Fans were furious. One said: "How massively disrespectful."

Another called him "offensive and ignorant".

The US-owned club said they were investigating.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/september11/3810857/Liverpool-stars-911-outrage.html

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 07:36 (thirteen years ago)

it wd seem grossly unfair if a dick was punished for saying something dickish in public, unrelated to his job, when thousands of dicks are saying the same dickish thing every day, on internet messageboards for example

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 07:49 (thirteen years ago)

public dick vs private dick

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 07:51 (thirteen years ago)

well as i say if the dickery cast doubts on yr ability to perform yr job properly but

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 07:52 (thirteen years ago)

like if Nathan Eccleston, 20, was responsible for bringing those responsible for 9/11 to justice

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 07:53 (thirteen years ago)

you're thinkin of daquiri shurely

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 07:53 (thirteen years ago)

I can only assume that Dan Brown has written a book about 9/11 that Nathan Ecclestone, 20, read on holiday?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 08:41 (thirteen years ago)

movie trailer imo

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 08:43 (thirteen years ago)

what is this illuminary thing?

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 10:23 (thirteen years ago)

don't think 9/11 could be

a) accident
b) caused by a secret society

the pinefox, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 10:30 (thirteen years ago)

i like the idea of it being an accident. like a bunch of pilots just got mad wasted that morning and forgot they had the lives of 100s in their hands, also fell asleep at the plane equiv. of the wheel while these buildings came closer

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 10:36 (thirteen years ago)

Airplane 3: Why you don't tint yr windows, pimp

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 10:37 (thirteen years ago)

It is possible the pilots were distracted by listening to an audiobook about the Illuminati, which caused them to stray catastrophically off course. Making the tragedy both an accident and the fault of the Illuminati.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

xpost UptoEleven ... the Rs did have two cleared off the line, one sitter missed and one cross narrowly missed. So "didn't really look like scoring" seems a little bit harsh.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

As I said I only caught the second half and wasn't giving it my full attention but it mostly seemed that the Newcastle defence wasn't having to do too much to keep them out. I wasn't saying that a win for them would have been the wrong result, just that they weren't exactly robbed of it.

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

i think Upt0eleven has a point in so far as we didnt look particularly patient and methodical about our attacking work, but then that was to be expected really. can't deny krul barely had a save to make however.

quite a few pundits seem to have concluded we just need a finisher which seems more than little simplistic not to mention negligent of bothroyd's pretty decent hold up play. we suffered fairly classic symptoms of playing 4231/433 without a lethal £30m powerhouse striker up top; will be interesting to see how often warnock will be tempted/deny the urge to sacrifice foundational solidity and switch to a 442. (in my opinion he should have rolled the dice yesterday.)

r|t|c, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

actually another thing warnock could have done - which i'm more surprised he didnt - is take derry off, move barton back alongside faurlin and have dj campbell in the centre of the three behind bothroyd.

not quite sure i see what barton's role will be tbh.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

Got to say, Derry had a blinder yesterday. Wouldn't have taken him off. Not sure Barton really quite knew what his role was yesterday. I'd say his was the weakest of the new signings' performances - too many passes went astray, too many moves broke down when they reached him, but I didn't see it as a cause for worry. Very impressed by both full backs: pace, defending and crossing all in evidence last night.

I can see Bothroyd and Campbell acting as a classic big man/little man partnership, but a strict four-man midfield causes problems: with two out of Derry, Faurlin and Barton in the middle, and Taarabt and SWP on the wings, you'd have the problem of Taarabt losing his influence on games stuck out on the left, or exposing the full backs if he cuts inside and gets caught out of position. I think the 4-2-3-1 is predicated on SWP and Taarabt probably outscoring Bothroyd over the course of the season.

Upt0eleven ... Second half was no great shakes, but first half was a very good performance by QPR.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

agree with all of that. thought game passed barton by while qpr had possession

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

Wolves ‘Superman’ Stephen Ward could be thrown up front if Steven Fletcher misses Saturday’s clash against Queens Park Rangers.

Fletcher is a doubt with a groin injury picked up in the 2-0 weekend defeat against Tottenham.

Manager Mick McCarthy said: “I’ve always got ‘Superman’ – Stephen Ward, who can play up there.

“The team comes before anyone’s personal gain and what’s lovely about ‘Wardy’ is he takes that view.

“I’ve got another good left-back in George Elokobi and, if I can put another good left-back in and have the other playing up front, that’s got to be the way."

r|t|c, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

got to be

r|t|c, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

the glamour

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

Can't help but feel the more "versatile" a team sports player is the more likely he is actually shit. In this case ward, a not very good left back, can play up front, presumably at an even worse level. You start to think he has no actual position at all.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

wish stephen ward didn't exist and the elements that comprise him ould be used to form a small fruit tree instead

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

i think it's more or less universally true that every utility player should be played at fullback

especially owen hargreaves, john o'shea and steven gerrard

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

xxp

almost. Wardy started out as a forward, couldn't cut it and was reinvented by McCarthy as a Championship-quality LB who plays left mid sometimes. his LB performances for us have been improved this season, tbf, along with a general improvement across the back four since Roger Johnson arrived and presumably asked them politely to pull their fucking fingers out.

of course if we had more than 3 first team strikers we wouldn't be in this situation would we Mick YOU FUCKING GRINNING EEJIT??

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

lassana diarra and mathieu flamini too

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

also MAYBE YOU SHD GIVE SAM VOKES A GAME AFTER ALL HE IS TECHNICALLY A CENTRE FUCKING FORWARD oops sorry gotta shoe-horn Ward in there somewhere

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

essien was also great as a nominal fullback

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

easy rooney joke

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

am staggered nakh hadn't already made it tbh

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

that was just sitting invitingly 30 yards from goal before u arrived to nick it from the feet of a certain onrushing irish thudd apologist

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

on a lighter note tho, this sudden "oh shit Ward's playing up front" is a direct knock-on off of our lack of signings during the summer. you'd think somebody might've guessed that Fletcher, Doyle and Seb mightn't be enough on their own for a season, like.

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

Travelling up to Wolverhampton on Sat to see the game. Sold it to my wife as "Why don't you visit your stroke-ridden aunt near Wolverhampton? I'll find something to do with the boy while you do that. Oh, look - QPR are there that day!"

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

wish stephen ward didn't exist and the elements that comprise him ould be used to form a small fruit tree instead

― diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 17:12 (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

a splendid post

r|t|c, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

is ward really a utility man per se or one of the rarer breed of striker/defenders like ian marshall, steve walsh and probably seven other former leicester players? is there a difference?

r|t|c, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

god remember huthy in the camp nou

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

The third and final substitute for Chelsea was Robert Huth, taking over from Cole and endeavouring with understandable futility to throw his considerable weight around in attack. With all of 20 minutes left, the Nou Camp crowd had already been tuning up for inevitable celebration.

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

john o'shea is an inutility player tbf

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

calumny best

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

paul warhurst

pandemic, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

Chris Sutton. CB at Norwich at first.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

For all the complaints about Defoe and Crouch, i'm reminded it wasn't that long ago Spurs were forced to play Gary Doherty up front.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

if i was 'reminded' of that by someone i'd throw something at them

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

on a lighter note tho, this sudden "oh shit Ward's playing up front" is a direct knock-on off of our lack of signings during the summer. you'd think somebody might've guessed that Fletcher, Doyle and Seb mightn't be enough on their own for a season, like.

― Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 17:22 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

one thing i'm surprised about is after the success (kinda), mick had with o'hara and mancienne, and with sturridge and welbeck etc. having good seasons a year ago.... AND with City and Spurs and Chelsea etc. all trying to get down their wage bill or get potentially good youngsters away, that he didn't get more involved with the loan market? I mean sure maybe not someone like Ade would go but a MB Diouf or Bendtner or Coulibaly or Santa Cruz or Sturridge were all maybe options? Options that may have walked into yr first xi, all without a transfer fee?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 19:45 (thirteen years ago)

Sturridge in the Chelsea 25, so he wasn't an option for anyone this time round. I'd imagine the wages of Santa Cruz especially, and Diouf and Bendtner to a lesser extent would be an obstacle for Wolves - who run at a profit, remember - to take on within their budgetary structure. Add to that the fact that Bendtner is also indisputably shit.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

I'm sure you could afford Diouf

Number None, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

Man U wages? Even for a young player, they've got to be right at the upper end of the Wolves pay scale, I would have thought. To turn a profit they must have wages hammered right down as far as they can go.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

Wage structure is definitely a part of it but there's a stubbornness about McCarthy that makes you think he will stick with some players no matter how obvious it is that they just aren't good enough. The dude rates work ethic ridiculously high I think - which is fair enough for 80 percent of yr team, but you've got to allow for the odd highly-skilled layabout imo.

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

"I think he's a typical British player," said the United manager, who left Rio Ferdinand behind as a precaution ahead of Sunday's visit of Chelsea and revealed Nemanja Vidic is a fortnight away from returning from a calf problem.

"There have been British players over the last few years, maybe for the last decades, who have similar great qualities that make them great players, whether it's a [Paul] Gascoigne, George Best, Bobby Charlton, Denis Law. The similarities are that the boy has great courage, wants to play all the time and has incredible stamina. These are added extras to the talent he has. In terms of a Brazilian, you'd say Pelé. He was a very aggressive attacker also who could look after himself, so can Rooney. They have similarities that way: strength, speed, determination, but he's white, completely white."

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

I was sure you added the last bit

Number None, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

what

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

waht indeed

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

waht

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

just thinking up poll options for the word Fergie's gonna claim he said that sounded like "white".

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

this is why they were pushing for phelan, the old cunt's lost it

hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

I assume it was some sort of laboured reference to Rooney's nickname

Number None, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

what, Shrek?

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

Wayne Rooney: Completely White

hell of an epitapth

dan m, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

he got cut off before he finished

"They have similarities that way: stwength, speed, detemination, but he's white, completely white-footed, and I'm vewy pwoud of him"

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 10:35 (thirteen years ago)

completely white

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 10:36 (thirteen years ago)

I'm a bit annoyed that Glen Johnson is out for the Spurs game, would expect Bale to get some joy against him. As it is they'll probably play Skrtel there and Bale will be crunched within the first 10mins.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

good old Skrts

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:03 (thirteen years ago)

fergie out surely.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

What for?

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

wacism

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:08 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney isn't white?

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

being white is the identifier of a british person clearly

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

Well if you're actually being serious, pretty sure Ferguson's comments were a reference to Rooney's nickname among Utd supporters which is "The White Pele"

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:14 (thirteen years ago)

yeah but on that basis he could have just said

"I think he's a typical Korean player," said the United manager, who left Rio Ferdinand behind as a precaution ahead of Sunday's visit of Chelsea and revealed Nemanja Vidic is a fortnight away from returning from a calf problem.

"There have been Korean players over the last few years, maybe for the last decades, who have similar great qualities that make them great players, whether Y P Lee, Jung Hwan Ahn, The similarities are that the boy has great courage, wants to play all the time and has incredible stamina. These are added extras to the talent he has. In terms of a Brazilian, you'd say Pelé. He was a very aggressive attacker also who could look after himself, so can Park. They have similarities that way: strength, speed, determination, but he eats dog in his own country"

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

(i'm not really that serious btw)

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

It was weird no doubt

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:20 (thirteen years ago)

wouldn't the korean comment have ended 'he's yellow, of course. Completely yellow'

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:35 (thirteen years ago)

Nah, there's a Park song about him eating dog in his home country

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

there's a rooney song about him being caucasian?

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

there is a song about him being The White Pele

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

i wonder which song is less accurate tbh

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

Yr doing it wrong, United fans. Only shit players can be compared to Pele - cf Ginger Pele Gary Doherty.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

Whereas "David May, superstar. Got more medals than Shearer" can't be faulted for accuracy. xpost

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

Not convinced the old red-nosed drunk wasn't talking about John Terry.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:47 (thirteen years ago)

if yr judging tunes on accuracy of content, yr already gone too far tbh

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:47 (thirteen years ago)

Yr doing it wrong, United fans. Only shit players can be compared to Pele - cf Ginger Pele Gary Doherty.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:44 (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and world famous hair plug ins utility player wayne rooney shouldn't be allowed to be treated like this because??? form is temporary, the tobias funke look can be a permenant health risk

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

btw hope the rooney song is 'whiter shade of pele'

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

But he's shite, completely shite.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

And yet he has more goals this season than the entire Liverpool and Arsenal teams

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

is rooney the worst player of his talent when he's off-form, or is he the best player of his limited ability when he's on-form?

Either way, true world-class players just don't flatline for seasons at a time like he has done ever since his emergence.

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

I'm so glad we're back to this ridiculous debate again.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

rooney scores in gluts

There's a grannyfucker joke in there somewhere

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

flatline for seasons at a time like he has done ever since his emergence

This simply isn't true. Last season is the only truly bad one Rooney has had since he's been at Utd. A lot of the time he had to deal with being played out of position too.

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

That's true but a) so do most strikers, even world class ones like peak-era Drogba have barren patches, b) he's amazing in those gluts, last year is the only entire season he can really be accused of flatlining.

It's a mental problem with Rooney - he's got the latent talent but he's too much of a tosser to pay sufficient attention to his fitness or his game when his mind's not on it.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

I also think we've maybe been a bit spoilt in the recent past with players like Ronaldo and Messi who can just carry on operating at a freakishly high level for an entire season year after year. 99.9% of other players can't do it.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

truth is rooney only performs when he's around experienced players

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

xposts to darragh

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

but matt surely being that 0.01% is what makes you 'pele'

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

disagree with all of ye tbh but i'm busy

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney's so obviously the most gifted English player since at least Gascoigne, it seems hardly worth saying. If some hypothetical swap deal came along where Utd could trade him for Player X, how many feasible Player Xs are there to make that deal even worth thinking about?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

berbatov

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney's so obviously the most gifted English player since at least Gascoigne, it seems hardly worth saying

You'd think so wouldn't you?

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

'gifted' Technically? Physically? Mentally? Consistency?

Gah i'm BUSY

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

Last season is the only truly bad one Rooney has had since he's been at Utd. A lot of the time he had to deal with being played out of position too.

Agreed, and I think a lot of it was to do with a hangover from his injury when he was rushed back too early (against Bayern?) - it took him months to look anything like fit and sharp after that setback.

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

The idea that Rooney is some clogger with no technical ability who somehow muddles through on effort alone is so infuriating.

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney league goals/games - ratio per season since joining Utd

11/29 - 0.38
16/36 - 0.44
14/35 - 0.4
12/27 - 0.44
12/30 - 0.4
26/32 - 0.81
11/28 - 0.39

Looks like amazing consistency with one freakishly good season rather than last year really being a flatline.

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

is there scope for a book called 'The Rooney Myth' that covers in-depth:

1. Prolonged periods of obvious, actual shitness
2. Prolonged periods of apparent performance that in actual fact reflect thirty tap-ins and a pretty poor level of actual performance.
3: A staggeringly poor level of general fitness described as 'bad luck with injuries'
4: Was great in one half tournament internationally

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

srsly can we shelve this i'm busy

ps xp just over one in three is not the strike-rate of a world class consistent talent at the best club in an uncompetitive league. Even allowing for tapins.

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

loads of assists last season too.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

considering essentially every injury Rooney has suffered has either been ankle or metatarsal, i don't see how that has anything to do with lack of fitness.

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

and tbf that goals list could also be read as follows:

11, 16, 14, 12, 12, 26, 11

Whither robbie keane, whither darren bent, whither hasselbaink, whither hamilton fuckin ricard and shaun by-christ bartlett

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

loss of form = loss of hair, we've been through this already

r|t|c, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

ps xp just over one in three is not the strike-rate of a world class consistent talent at the best club in an uncompetitive league. Even allowing for tapins.

not bad for a right-back though

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

xp HE'S FAT

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

5th all time in the Premier League for assists, but you can prove anything with stats

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

berbatov was once top scorer in the premier league

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

it's a good return for a utd attacking midfielder, you'd maybe want more for a winger and you'd want to double it for a 'world class' striker onimo

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

ffs

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

giving it to ronaldo on the halfway line, lol 'assist'

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

the most remarkable thing about wayne rooney is his longevity in a ruthless utd team imo. I'd score ten a season meself sure.

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

I don't consider him an out-and-out striker tbh but he gets his fair share when put there

(that was only league goals btw, I think he's hit 20+ in 3 or 4 seasons in all comps)

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

Cantona only broke the 20-goal barrier once in his entire career. Just saying like.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

not good enough to play for france.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

two main reasons rooney is suddenly looking good again are

- no recent injuries, didn't come back from summer after dispiriting failure with england or just generally looking fat and slovenly
- he is finally playing in exactly the sort of set up that suits him -- nominally withdrawn striker in 4-4-1-1, with hernandez and two fast winger to stretch the defence, he can move from a #10 position to a #9 depending on the phase of play

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

- It's probably a while until the next prostitute revelation as well so probably reasonably happy at home and undistracted

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

He won 45 caps and retired early!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

- was playing against dogshit teams like arsenal and bolton

xposts

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

i think he's often been played in less than optimal position by ferguson, sometimes at less than full fitness. I recognise his level of general effort and 'spirit' ugh, his power, surprising pace, a deft touch when striking a dead ball, an unstoppable shot and a much improved ability to finish from a cross. I'm not a blinkered roo-hater, imo, but i set all of that against what i've said above and i don't get the result that spells out 'top class' tbh.

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

Let's see your list of "top class" players in the Premier League then

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

45 caps with the team that failed to win a single game in 92 or qualify for 94.. then being not as good as zidane

must stop trolling and get back to work

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

current or previous NN

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

Current

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

All of that was all Ginola's fault though, if you're looking for a truly shit player.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

current top/world class players in the epl, not exhaustive:

English- ferdinand, a cole, j cole
Foreign- Silva, kompany, aguero, van persie, drogba, berbatov, s hunt

I'd prob include gerrard ahead of rooney, tbh, but the past two years prob knock him out of it.

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

Poor Luka :(

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

Is there a J Cole I don't know about?

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

didn't want to include spurs players tbh, matt

NV if you have another j cole that's able to do stuff messi can't, i've not heard

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

s hunt

At last, some recognition

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

Seems to me that if you're gonna exclude Gerrard cos of the last 2 years then Cole's had a longer lean spell than that

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o9dXLNuXic

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

Kompany but no Vidic? I'd put Rooney in the same category as Van Persie and Drogba (who is pretty crap at the moment). Also, I know you're a Berbatov stan but including him is ridiculous.

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

ffs cole is a joke

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, J. Cole's been rubbish for years. Pretty much since the second half of the England v. Sweden game.

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

Hunt's not a joke tho right?

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

vidic- yes. Was off the top of my head tbf.

Drogba sustained form that put him among the world's best in his position for a couple years, but i take yr point. Injuries limit rvp so i take that point too, but those aside rvp is a different level of performance to rooney, and his injuries aren't due to kebabs and hookers

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

oh right i get the J Cole joke now, sorry i don't remember most of the asinine bullshit England players spout in interviews, i only ever read about it on here

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

Hunt is actually the real life version of what some people on here seem to think Rooney is

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

inclusion of hunt is pushing it, inclusion of berbatov is frankly unquestionable

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

Hunt's work rate is better than Rooney's for a start

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

aguero is actually the real life version of what some people on here seem to think rooney is

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

\(^o^)/

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

forgot about Tevez

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

I'd include Nani and Suarez as well

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

Torres is shit now?

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

League goals/assists/appearances EPL last 7 seasons
13/16/38
16/8/35
11/10/37
10/8/24
12/10/37
22/17/36
10/4/24

pandemic, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

nani might get there, suarez not yet, torres in that twilight area with drogba and, tbf, rooney, peak gerrard, maybe modric, few others

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

tevez has long made me uneasy tbh, tevez is the admission of 'world class' that i must long o'erleap before i even want rooney mentioned in any such bracket

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

Everyone seems to forget now that Drogba had whole seasons where he just couldn't be bothered and played well below par.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

'peak' comes into it, i think, and then you have to consider how long 'peak' was- rooney 'peaks' for a year then goes to shit. Torres at peak is unquestionable, rooney at peak is effective, powerful and i'd consider him

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

Drogba's scoring record for Chelsea

2010/11 11
2009/10 29
2008/09 5
2007/08 8
2006/07 20
2005/06 12
2004/05 10

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney's, what, 26? He might be just hitting peak now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

a year *at best*, so far in his career.

Drogba struggles for sustained form matt, yes- but like rvp, when he's fit and playing he's so obviously on a higher level than rooney that it bewilders me to see them compared ability-wise

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney's got 8 more league goals than Lampard over the last 7 seasons. Lampard plays midfield.

pandemic, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

irrelevant

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

But, as Matt says, Rooney may now be hitting his peak years.

pandemic, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

The positional/tactical difference between Lampard and Rooney is not as extreme as 'plays midfield' vs. 'plays forward' would imply, though.

boxall, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

Why is his position irrelevant?

pandemic, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

Positioned right outside the burger van amirite?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

Because goals are only one aspect of his game. Also, at a conservative estimate i'd say 75% of FF's goals were deflections

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

a forward's sole duty isn't to score goals any more than a midfielder's sole duty is to give the ball to the forward

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

if rooney plays two seasons uninterrupted in his current form then i'm wrong and he's world class. Will freely admit it.

That's my original question/point, kinda- what's rooney's true level, why the huge disparity, why such frequent swoops around it, yadda yadda. With rvp it's injury, with drogba it's motivation, with rooney it's both with added 'wow he's got an awful touch'

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney's got 8 more league goals than Lampard over the last 7 seasons

Rooney is 25 years old.

In the 7 seasons prior to turning 25 Lampard scored 35 league goals, Rooney scored over 100.

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

tbf to Lampard though, he's second all-time in the the assists chart. Really has been incredibly effective over the years

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

Also up until last season Lampard was seemingly never injured. He's played an incredible number of games per season.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

Lampard's prob got as many assists as Rooney as well. So that's another aspect of his game. I guess I just rate Lampard a lot higher than most folks around here.
xp

pandemic, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

Lampard, like Rooney, over the last 7 seasons has been playing for a dominant team. In the years up to his 25th birthday he mostly wasn't.

pandemic, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

rooney, even on-form, is as likely to lose control of a bouncing ball as any forward in the epl. Then there are times his touch is fantastic. I think the whole puzzle might centre around that, tbh (in my head)

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

I rate Lampard very highly, but he didn't start racking up such consistent numbers of goals/assists until he was the age Rooney has only just reached.

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

The touch thing is weird alright

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

lampard prob world-class and prob should have made my list. Terry, eh, i struggle to justify not including him but it's my list so fuckim.

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

rooney, even on-form, is as likely to lose control of a bouncing ball as any forward in the epl.

I agree, but I also think he's more likely than most forwards in the EPL to lash said bouncing ball into the corner of the net.

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

agreed

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

Anyway, i think i've said my piece. Let's reconvene here in two years for the definitive verdict.

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

John Terry is a massive blubbering penalty-shanking glass-jawed racist cunt, though. Don't forget that.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

two weeks

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

lol keep it comin' guys. i'm not busy.

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

i'm BUSY FFS

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

how can you all muster the strength to have these infernally tedious arguments again, seriously

r|t|c, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

Was trying to watch sky sports saturday the last day and by the time merse and phil thompson had said their piece on stoke i was done. Pure ignorance, pubtalk, nothing bluster

― talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:02 (5 hours ago) Bookmark

r|t|c, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

hahaha

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

you're missing the point, merse and pinnocchhhhhhhio were prob enjoyin themselves too

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

how can you all muster the strength to have these infernally tedious arguments again, seriously

a decade of ilx premier league threads yet still they doubt our stamina

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

fat frank joke

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

O'Connorwatch: now charged with insurance fraud over smash in his Ferrari. Not a great couple of days for the big 'un.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

anyway, and tbf, if rooney plays two good games in a row then this shite is unavoidable and somebody must pay

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

Gotta agree with rtc, tho if my "completely shite" comment was to blame then I take a sad sense of satisfaction.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

It was meant to turn into a conversation about the merits of Gary Doherty.

http://img.skysports.com/07/08/218x298/FootballNorwichDohertyProfile_555373.jpg

Godspeed Ginger Pele.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

prefer Scottish Cafu

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

is that a turnip-based dish or

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

@Joey7Barton Joseph Barton
Interview with @jamesjammcmahon @kerrangmagazine done. Talked about Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and being a dysfunctional teenage indie kid...enjoy

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

xposts. I'm sure Hodgson compared Carragher to Carlos Alberto.

Chris, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

!!!!

pandemic, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

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r|t|c, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

How pissed off must Leighton Baines be?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

Leighton Baines hasn't updated his blog since the end of May :(

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

ha

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2011/6/18/1308407437207/The-Gallery-Wayne-Rooney-002.jpg

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

BBC Radio 5 live's Conor McNamara at the Stadium of Light on the great Manchester striker debate: "Sergio Aguero has the potential to be as good as Wayne Rooney, but he's not there yet."

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

"One of the greatest players of all time". Not my words lads, the words of Eamon Dunphy.

Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

i tell ya, i nearly shit- and giles only half-contradicted the stirring fucker

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

alan shearer or les ferdinand were better than rooney

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

shat myself when that pic filled my screen.

Chris, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

It's ROOBACCA

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

'My groin is as strong as it’s ever been and the stats are there to prove it,'

mizzell, Thursday, 15 September 2011 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

Stevie G?

pandemic, Thursday, 15 September 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

indeed

mizzell, Thursday, 15 September 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.offthepost.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/gerrard.jpg

Number None, Thursday, 15 September 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

It can do some amazing things, but anything it can do, Joe Cole can do as well, if not better. He used to shock them in training.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 15 September 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

Gerrard and Smith just in awe of Redknapp there aren't they.

Chris, Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

tbf he is doing a terrific impression of the flash rite there

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 15 September 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

"My groin is tested when I'm working and the physios collect data. My groin scores now are better than before I even started feeling my groin"

is it shakeymostep? (cozen), Friday, 16 September 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

A £100,000 signing from Stoke who has just completed 200 games for Mick McCarthy, Henry is not only a value-buy but a player very much in his manager's image. "I'm a no-nonsense sort of footballer, I suppose," he says.

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 16 September 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

the best advert for dadaism and aphasia in years

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 16 September 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

1217: BREAKING NEWS: We're hearing there's a doubt about today's Wolves-QPR match because of a power cut in Wolverhampton. There's currently no power at Molineux and club officials have promised a further update soon.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 11:39 (thirteen years ago)

thanks, just warned my dad before he set off

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 September 2011 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

will be gutted for ithappens tho if it, um, doesn't happen

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 September 2011 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

This afternoon's game between Wolves and Queens Park Rangers is now set to go ahead after power was restored to Molineux.

We have been told by the electricity supplier that the restored power should be retained for the rest of the day to allow the game to go ahead.

Fans are advised that the loss of power for approximately 90 minutes will mean some disruption to food service, especially in corporate areas, and are asked to show patience as a result.

The power was off throughout Wolverhampton City Centre from approximately 11.05am.

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 September 2011 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

I think I am going to love Gervinho - big fore head and all.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 11:59 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01706/sheephead-wrasse_1706878i.jpg

In training, earlier today

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

sandro's hair vs gervinho's hair

cozen, Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Sandro.jpg

cozen, Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

http://divegallery.com/Leafy_Sea_Dragon__1.jpg

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:08 (thirteen years ago)

gervinho is a dude with bad dreads. it looks silly but dreads on a black dude isn't exactly some craaaaaazy hair choice. sandro's looks like he lost a bet or four.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

talking of losing bets - I'm sticking to my "never bet on Arsenal" rule this season, no matter what.

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

It took you how many seasons?

1. That was a sweet finish.
2. That was a lol offside line.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

this Blackburn team are something tho

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

Too many seasons and too many heartbreaking if onlys on too many coupons. 4-0 up on Newcastle should have been the last straw but I think I still went back for more after that.

Nice goal from Yakubu.

(still fancy Arsenal to win easy though. must...not...bet)

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

lol at whoever was tracking ramsey though.

we look so much more direct! i am enjoying it. still lol defending but 1 thing at a time.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:22 (thirteen years ago)

nice attack, that!

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

I missed the Arsenal goal :(

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

Gervinho should have scored there, lovely move.

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:29 (thirteen years ago)

FLOATING RAY WINSTONE HEAD

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

DRINK IT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnwJPViexgg

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

clinical

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

LOL

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal concede a ridiculously silly goal from a set-piece? See i am surprised on account of this never happening over the past five years.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

Watching Arsenal on laptop and Hibs on telly. Crimes against defending everywhere.

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

loool

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

srs, wenger out we are losing to chicken

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

"an unlikely victory against Arsenal"

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

omino betting on arsenal games is p easy atm. go for the other guys.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

^top tips

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

that foul by dann was quality.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

this is painful

zvookster, Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

OH NO

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

lolol

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

All through that break I was thinking 'this is going to be the worst goal ever' - not for a moment was I expecting that finish

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

They don't have time for four more, do they?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

Thank God for Arsenal.

pandemic, Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

venkys have done us

wait no our own defending has done us

fucking committing suicide is not a good tactic in football

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

just think where they'd be without the great per mertesacker

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

"I don't think any of us foresaw this scoreline" - ffs Craig Burley or whoever this is, do try to keep up

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

It's Arsenal's first trip to the north-west since their 8-2 humiliation at Manchester United, but they go there a completely different side.

Then they were a pitiful shambles. But Tuesday's draw in Dortmund showed they have their pride back and with new signings already bedding in, they can look to end a shabby record of only one win in their last 10 away league games.

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

tbf it'll be no wins from ten soon enough

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

Hahaha
At least you can't be accused of glory hunting Ismael.
btw anyone know what's caused saha's existential meltdown?
http://twitter.com/#!/louissaha08

pandemic, Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

tbf mertesacker the only member of our back 4 who seems to understand basic football tactics like 'how an offside trap works' and 'if you are going to put a ball in a net, don't have it be yr own'

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

a dive that needs to become a .gif

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

lol i missed Beckford going to Leicester

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

Theo's looked god since he came on.

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

good*

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

never in doubt

caek, Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

5-4 will be lols here, no matter who wins

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

chamakh goal suggests that this game genuinely has everything

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

this is a pretty excellent game in all seriousness

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

needs a dodgy penalty decision

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

what pls i been powerwashing

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

Steely Dann

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

Deems Arse were 1-0 and 2-1 up then 4-2 down now 4-3 down and hunting for a point, lots of good attacking and bad defending

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

bad defending for 3 of the 4 goals solely on koscielny's head and i officially take back anything good i said about him.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

sad trombone

zvookster, Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

mertesacker

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

BBC really needs to get on the "Mertesacker Emptiness" gig, got a feeling poignant existential despair is gonna be great backing music for the Arse this season

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

wenger out

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

good penalty shout right at the end there I thought

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

having trouble analysing the penalty thing actually

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

ref playing fergie time by then but yeah

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

shots on target 5-16

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

merdes and kosciely are str8 dogshit

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

what did per do to call him dogshit? srs question?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

nothing, hence

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

koscielny is a slovenly fucking cunt though

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

ah well at least Blackburn will get 2 wins this season bless them

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/55427000/jpg/_55427147_blackburn_fans2.jpg

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno per always seemed to be organising the line, organising us at set pieces and 3/4 of the backline worked fine (santos got beat for the last goal) and generally did his job just fine. Koscielny otoh seemed to actively be looking to lose, like he had a bet on venkys from the start, and you can't really blame merte for that. also song went from having a motm performance mid week to being dogshit today.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

How tall is Steve Kean? Serious neck-craning he's doing in this interview.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

wikipedia says 5'9"

QPR 2 up already!

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea have scored!

Chris, Saturday, 17 September 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal have conceded the same number of goals in their last 2 away games that they conceded away from home in the Invincibles season.

a hawk... watching my vagina? (onimo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

What is Hodgson doing to my beautiful West Brom.

Chris, Saturday, 17 September 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

The last 3 teams Arsenal beat away from home in the League all got relegated so who knows where a win is coming from.
Hodgson for England.

pandemic, Saturday, 17 September 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

wenger for england

or anywhere that wants him

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

fact that i've missed the first half is entirely coincidental ;_;

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 September 2011 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

i'd have wenger at spurs when arry goes

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 September 2011 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

tho we'd need a defensive coach/recruiter

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 September 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

and somebody to field angry parents

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 September 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea are bloody gorgeous.

Chris, Saturday, 17 September 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

Attempts on target

Wolves 0
QPR 9

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 September 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

Norwich 2-0?!

Chris, Saturday, 17 September 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea have been absolutely immense off the ball.

Chris, Saturday, 17 September 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

"What we want is a team of Dirk Kuyts"

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

Hmmm, is it good to be back to normal? I dunno, it shd feel more like a warm, familiar pair of slippers than this.

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 September 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

it's a good job there's some rubbish in this league tbh

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 September 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

great header by Velios and a well taken goal by Drenthe in Everton's win.

mizzell, Saturday, 17 September 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

Loving this all out slapstick comedy approach the Arsenal are adopting this season

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Saturday, 17 September 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

Seriously the bit leading up to the Koscielny own goal is probably the most hilariously inept passage of play I have ever seen from Arsenal

Matt DC, Saturday, 17 September 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger got sick of buying classy shit centre backs and got a physical shit one instead. Genius.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 17 September 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

^ not listening

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 17 September 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, i don't think that was what anyone had in mind. It's like when you have everyone giving you the same unwanted advice so eventually you get sick of hearing it and you do it and you cunt it up deliberately/half-deliberately and then you turn to them and say 'see? now fuck off.'

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 September 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

deems otm

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 17 September 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago)

zen & the art of mertesacker penitence

cozen, Saturday, 17 September 2011 18:17 (thirteen years ago)

cozen otm

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 17 September 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

merts is just rificulously slow and cumbersome to the extent that his qualities are going to be undermined all the time

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 17 September 2011 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

by Robert M. Pirèsig

xp

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 17 September 2011 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

du rifific chez l'arsenal

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 17 September 2011 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

santos at fault for these calls tbh

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 September 2011 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

mertesacker being taken apart on rte but again if you get in a 6'6" experienced german centre half in and then let a brazilian chancer dictate your line then you got problems

Giles just called koscielny 'insomnia' then got flustered.

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 September 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

incredible save from hennessy today. Wolves defending for the goal not even arsenal standard

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 September 2011 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

karl henry really is an awful presence, just .... what's he doing in this league, in this sport? what's he hoping for?

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 September 2011 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

QPR were all over Wolves. I don't recall Wolves having a shot on goal in 90 minutes. Well worth THREE AND A HALF FUCKING HOURS on the M1 and M6. M40 back much better. Should have gone up that way.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Saturday, 17 September 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

ok is the irish equiv of motd on earlier over dere?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 September 2011 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

Good tip xp. One quiet day we can found a 'routes to football grounds' thread on it.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 17 September 2011 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah but how long are you gonna spend on the North Circ and Hanger Lane, eh. Or drive into London and get the Westway, if you're really into fun.

Skrillex Ferguson (useless chamber), Saturday, 17 September 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

From where I am, North Circ to Hanger Lane's alright (go on at Brent Cross). Really, I should have got the train in an hour and a half, but wife and daughter went to visit aunt outside Wolverhampton while me and boy went to Molineux, so it just about made sense to go by car. Great awayday though. No better feeling than being in an away end when your're winning. No worse, when you're losing.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Saturday, 17 September 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

rte premiership is on at 8pm because football matters to us

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 September 2011 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

Why was Djourou even on the pitch for that fourth goal, did someone get injured again?

I woke up early & very hungover for this match but had a vague bad feeling and went back to sleep, such a great decision.

boxall, Saturday, 17 September 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago)

Lesser-mentioned aspects of Warnock: his teeth. Dear god, his teeth. He laughed during that interview and it looked like the roof of his mouth was about to pop out.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 17 September 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

Also, Barton interrupting Shaun Derry's interview by lobbing a bottle at his head. Gonna be an entertaining season, innit?

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 17 September 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

Djorou replaced Sagna (injured), Ben.

Chris, Saturday, 17 September 2011 23:12 (thirteen years ago)

I love that the BBC bothered to ask Wenger about a couple of controversial penalty decisions, like they just wanted to goad him into spluttering impotently about referees after a display of such sublime comedy.

Matt DC, Sunday, 18 September 2011 09:39 (thirteen years ago)

This makes it all better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYwf2SBWa5o

James Mitchell, Sunday, 18 September 2011 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

jaysus modric's just smashed one in

zvookster, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

Triffic strike from Mr Loyalty himself

Neither big nor clever (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs fans learning to love again

Number None, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:39 (thirteen years ago)

Skrtl is a disaster at RB.

Stevie T, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

Ach, bad start to the derby and I didn't even get a stream up in time. Good goal?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

yup

zvookster, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

Absolutely smashed it

Number None, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

i think the technical term is "screamer"

zvookster, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

Hopefully Liverpool will turn up at some point.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

fell to him a few yards outside the box & he hit it across the goal into the opposite top corner

zvookster, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah was offside. I hadn't seen Carroll 'til that point.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

nor i, and i've been watching since kick-off

zvookster, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

I can see Charlie Adam being sent off in this game

Number None, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

agger off, coates debut

looks very much like a top four side against a mid-table side atm

zvookster, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

ruh roh

zvookster, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

*hi 5's number none*
that didn't take long

zvookster, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

well done

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

i thank you

Number None, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

Need to bring Kuyt on, take off Henderson.

Stevie T, Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

crisis club Liverpool really up against it now. A draw'd be a terrific result already

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

Small time Charlie.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool won't be on dis ting etc

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

Wish this stream has someone other than Pleat as co-commentator. :/

Stevie T, Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool trying to pick up 22 bookings in this match?

Neither big nor clever (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

love pleat.

this sky sports commentator, whichever one it is, is a really obnoxious man. lfc are shit, oh well. nothing to see here.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

I think I might write this one off now, it's not looking pretty and I need to pop out anyway. I'd like to see Coates but there'll be better opportunities for that.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

Parker is gonna "have" Suarez later

Number None, Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

Coates getting in on the action with a yellow. I can see Liverpool getting something out of the game if Spurs fall asleep but they're going to require more than eight men on the pitch.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

Not much to say about that really.

Chris, Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool trying to pick up 22 bookings in this match?
― Neither big nor clever (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:07 (46 minutes ago)

Looks like it

Neither big nor clever (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

And now perennial Spurs favourite, Adebayor, gets in on the action

Neither big nor clever (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

Lovely goal.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

Ooh that went fast!

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal only 3 points behind this mighty Liverpool-side is kind of a soothing thought

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

Think QPR could be ahead of LFC by the end of this game.

Stevie T, Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

card happy ref or otherwise, a shit performance.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

So, Kenny to meet with the refs again this week?

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

No Carrick. Hallelujah

Number None, Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

Torridge up front for Chelsea

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

Aguero has scored for City, looked a mile offside but didn't catch replay.

boxall, Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

yass #fantasyfootball

do you get points for an assist if your player crosses it in and woodgate OGs it?

maxmombuffsnads (cozen), Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

Expect the Spurs fans will want him to dedicate his goals to his elephant-washing dad.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, coz

"A bad day at the office. But some so-called fans need to look up the words 'loyalty' and 'legend' in their dictionaries. If they can actually read that is. You'll never walk alone, King Kenny. Anfield was not rebuilt in a day!"

speech bubble obscuring 1/3 of a Roy of the Rovers strip panel; "that's right, JZ in Liverpool", says a speech bubble coming from a different stand

MPx4A, Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

Jay-Z?

Chris, Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

No Dirk, no credibility
Didn't watch. Did we play 4-4-2 whilst we had 11 men anyway?

pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

I don't even think spurs are any good so that results a bit of a worry. Oh well.

pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

Crikey, that was a nice touch for Adebayor's first. Good to see him in a Liverpool shirt too.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs looked pretty sweet, what I saw, and presumably they got better later. They'll be serious competition for seventh fourth.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

lana del rey on the man utd build-up

maxmombuffsnads (cozen), Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

4-4-2. I think. Don't know what we were doing. Right now it feels worse than Wolves last season tbh. Horrible.

Chris, Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

fergie just said he likes youth. "I like young people"

maxmombuffsnads (cozen), Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

kicking Wenger while he's down, not cool

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

video games or blue jeans cozen?

pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

video games

maxmombuffsnads (cozen), Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

The Utd fans know a good song about that iirc. Something about a packet of sweets and a cheeky smile?

James Mitchell, Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

Hope the FA punish Parker for kicking Lucas near the end.

Chris, Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

thx cozen
not sure if i'll feel better or worse if nando and meireles play great today? Oh who am i kidding? Hope Utd get smacked.

pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea gonna empty the midfield? Can't see Meireles being much a rock in there. Ramires?

Chris, Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

If Nando plays great I'm gonna check the bread I had at lunchtime for hallucinogenic mould

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

yeah ramires the only holding type player there and even he goes forward. Better put some pressure on the ball with the high line they keep otherwise hernadez's movement and through balls will kill 'em.

pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

srsly can't envisage Spurs having an easier Prem game this season tbh

the point about 70 mins in where they strung literally about 35 passes together then lost possession with the first one that attempted to be at all penetrating was rather tragicomic for both teams

the wrong terry to fuckwit (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 18 September 2011 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

" Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp on Spurs fans cheering ex-Arsenal striker Emmanuel Adebayor, who scored two goals against Liverpool on his home debut: "Football's a funny old game. Saddam Hussein could have bought a football club and, if he'd pumped millions in, everyone would have sung, 'There's only one Saddam'. Adebayor's worked hard today and put a real shift in. They really love him here.""

Matt DC, Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

Subtle dig at Levy.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

some thanks that. comparing him to a genocidal dictator!!

pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

am astonished that sunderland are gubbing stoke 3-0 tbh

pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

torn between wanting to see AVB/torres do well and having rooney/jones in my FF

maxmombuffsnads (cozen), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

aguero clowning it in

maxmombuffsnads (cozen), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal/liverpoolesque defending there

pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

that was woeful

maxmombuffsnads (cozen), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

90 min orgasm

Pity the ref was actually punishing offences correctly, because we were better 11 vs 11 tbh.

Spurs 2010 - crouch + adebayor = top four.

And Bale was shite today, probably should have been 6 or 7.

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

sums torres up

maxmombuffsnads (cozen), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

oh nando

pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

yeah Bale was a birrova disaster area in Liverpool's third, would have got mad grief on a less piss easy day

the wrong terry to fuckwit (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

it was easy, don't know what happened lfc.

adam two stupid bookings, skrtl's bit harsher but prob correct, young henderson only turned up to be subbed.

Agree that parker kicked out at lucas, chris, but he'd benn wrestled off the ball by a player who'd probably been lucky to still be on the field himself after a few late digs

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

Hilarious

Neither big nor clever (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

that was atrocious

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea playing very well, between the areas.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

I can see Chelsea being the better team all game and losing 3-0

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

torres so often just looks like he's wandered onto the pitch from elsewhere. so languorous and unengaged at times

maxmombuffsnads (cozen), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

Sunderland 4 up now. Who the fuck are Stoke?

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool shouldn't try and play dirty, they're terrible at it.

Chelsea's approach play is great but good lord, the finishing.

Matt DC, Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

Fulham!

Neither big nor clever (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

woof

maxmombuffsnads (cozen), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

Nani!

Neither big nor clever (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

Nani!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Kompany!

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Wow Nani.

Matt DC, Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Oh well.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

Stream cuts out momentarily with Nani about to shoot, cuts to Martin Tyler shouting "AND YOU HARDLY SAW IT GO IN", correctly

MPx4A, Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

guys this is the spurs-lfc thread just sayin

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

chelsea have been really good today tbh

pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney's been shite, so he'll score next.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

Everyone's been on it today

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

Yup

Neither big nor clever (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

Called it.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

I really hope I don't wake up in a minute and discover I've dreamt the whole first month of this season

Neither big nor clever (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

This ones for Darragh

1645: A day to forget for Stoke and none more so that Peter Crouch. A cross reaches him with the goal at his mercy and he completely misses his kick.

pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

Okay, I'm calling this as well - MUFC won't win the title and think MCFC and CFC could both finish above them.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

celebration for nani's goal reminded me of the closing scene in "rabid"

Michael B, Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

three shots, three goals, goalkeeping crisis at chelsea

maxmombuffsnads (cozen), Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

Ha, the Goodyear blimp. Was just thinking today was a good day.

Number None, Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

My word, I didn't even see that!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

top top finish

maxmombuffsnads (cozen), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

How Anelka doesn't start every game I will never understand.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

just seen the results and WHUUUT

must be up there for potentially highest scoring weekend maybe?

glad to see the return of lolverpool.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

Agree that parker kicked out at lucas, chris, but he'd benn wrestled off the ball by a player who'd probably been lucky to still be on the field himself after a few late digs

True mate, clutching at straws. We were awful.

Chris, Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

yay nando scored

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

That's not even a penalty

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

Wtf didn't Ramires put in the cross when they'd worked the short corner? Asking for trouble, fannying around like that.

xp lol

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

Not feeling so sexy anymore, Roo?

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

ROOFUL

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

Yep, not convinced it was a penalty, but that was a real shame Nani's original effort didn't go in

Neither big nor clever (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, a REAL shame...

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

Nando 99.5% back to his best there

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

As a fellow fan of the beautiful game, I'm sure you feel cheated out of witnessing a second great Nani goal this afternoon

Neither big nor clever (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

is it a penalty then?

maxmombuffsnads (cozen), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

Has got to be

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

Just something for Fergie to whine about.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

Seriously, how can that be a booking but not a penalty?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

Ball out of play? Booking was for backchat? Dowd doesn't know what he is doing?

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

Ball was out of play, no? Xp

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

L O L

zvookster, Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

HAHAHAHA!

Neither big nor clever (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

TORREZLOZLOZLLOZLZ

Gukbe, Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

holy shitting hell

maxmombuffsnads (cozen), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

End the world now

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

dear god

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

Lol

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

fantastic game

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

It feels like United have had far more chances in this half than the first

Neither big nor clever (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck's sake what can you say about that though?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

Car crash moment of all time. I hate Chelsea but I can't enjoy that,

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea been very poor this half.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

Rosenthalian

MPx4A, Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

torres < defoe

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

Can't keep possession with Lampard.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

If Ronny Rosenthal's one is ever shown again he can feel aggrieved now.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

hey, let's not forget Wazzer's penalty folks.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

Pfft, the penalty was a tough chance tbf

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

Game of misses.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

Torres was struggling to keep his momentum in check as he took the shot, Rosenthal's had a sort of inexplicable, cheated-by-god quality to it, but Torres was so close to goal he's probably gonna have to get the nod to be laughed at by future generations

MPx4A, Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea been very poor this half.

― isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 18 September 2011 17:44 (9 minutes ago)

nah they've done alright, playing a sort of 4-2-4 and intermittently looking p dangerous

0-1 for the half too

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

isn't there a Giggs open goal miss from somewhere in the 90s that's up there w/ old Ronnie?

only listening to the radio where everything tends to get exaggerated but I'm p pumped for this Torres miss now

the wrong terry to fuckwit (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

I don't even think Chelsea played badly. They would have had three but for two of the worst misses ever and had some good periods, but United are just utterly rampant at the moment and could have got eight again (instead of spending the whole second half conjuring ever more surprising ways of failing to get a fourth goal).

Neither big nor clever (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

Re: Giggs miss - no, that was FA Cup match against Arsenal in 2003. IIRC he missed an open goal, but he was at the edge of the 18-yard box, not in the same league as Torres today

Neither big nor clever (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 September 2011 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

I've been totally thrown by that, I haven't been able to concentrate on anything since. That's the worst thing I've seen in football, and it was totally otherworldly too - how he'd played well, found himself alone, glided past de Gea, everything just stopped ... and then that.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 September 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd174/mossposs/125586922.jpg

Number None, Sunday, 18 September 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

For two of the best three teams in England and probably the top 10 or so in Europe that wasn't half hilarious. I thought that Torres looked like he didn't want to celebrate too much after his goal but was quietly going "fuck yeah!" but any good work would have been undone by the later misses. I hope the Chelsea fans were singing "you're just a shit John Terry" after Rooney's miss.

Chelsea look weird and schizophrenic. I've never seen an Abramovich Chelsea team get muscled off the ball to such an extent, so many times they were just sleeping for a United player to pick their pocket and mount an attack. Mata, Mereiles, there's the beginnings of a great attacking force in there but Lampard feels like a waste of a position now and the front line is going to be a massive problem. Also why is Malouda now consistently on the bench?

De Gea was good today, I thought.

Thought Liverpool looked terrible and Spurs looked great, if slightly complacent once they went down to 10 men, let alone 9. Liverpool don't really have the players to hassle good passing teams in midfield and the result was a lot of clumsy hamfisted fouling. Suarez had a bit of an off-day for which we could feel grateful, surprised Dalglish didn't bring Bellamy on earlier, he's the sort of player we hate playing against.

Difficult to say how good Spurs are at the moment - two thumpings, two comfortable wins. If we'd played Everton and won we'd be in fourth. We *should*, with Friedel, Parker and Adebayor, be loads better than last season. I suppose if you're going to get smashed twice in a row you should do it at the beginning of the season so you're well aware of your weaknesses. Either way, I'm not sure Lennon deserves to be back in the team, we've been better since we stopped trying to force five players into four positions. Still, Modric's goal made me so happy, and his reaction made me even happier.

Matt DC, Sunday, 18 September 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

That photo is gold

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 September 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

How about a gif?
http://www.uploads.gaming-resources.com/files/1802_e31mb/MUvCHE_TorresFail.gif

Number None, Sunday, 18 September 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

It taunts all the laws I know tbh

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 September 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWID5GEp1TQ

this was the stream i was watching, marclol desailly good value as ever

r|t|c, Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

Has there ever been a photo taken of a crowd that doesn't make the fans look like utter cocks?

Not sure about 'United could have got eight'. 4-3 would have been fairer and am quietly pleased about many aspect of that performance (including Torres, who I am very critical of but was best forward on pitch by a distance). think AVB is on to something, but it'll take time.

United playing heavily on confidence, unsure how they will respond when something goes against them. Don't think we'll finish many points apart, either way.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago)

two thumpings from the two best teams before we had strengthened at cf and with a pseudo midfield.

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0amh736042eTV/x610.jpg

caek, Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

progress

boxall, Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:30 (thirteen years ago)

that rafa hangover's a bitch huh

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 September 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

omg

Joey barton on karl henry!

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 September 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago)

Kelvin Henry.

Chris, Sunday, 18 September 2011 23:50 (thirteen years ago)

that was amazing.

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Monday, 19 September 2011 00:21 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.1000goals.com/wallpapers3/Martin-Jol-picture.jpg

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 19 September 2011 01:23 (thirteen years ago)

still cant beat the top four eh

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Monday, 19 September 2011 08:03 (thirteen years ago)

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/5193/screenshot20110919at072.jpg

Some of the names on this list are amazing. Surprised they didn't include Bobby Robson on it.

James Mitchell, Monday, 19 September 2011 08:30 (thirteen years ago)

undervaluing jol there imo

also wot, no glenn hoddle?

Upt0eleven, Monday, 19 September 2011 09:19 (thirteen years ago)

bergkamp 40-1 is MITB imo

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 19 September 2011 09:21 (thirteen years ago)

lol domemench would be brill

stojkovic has wenger's personal recommendation right?

r|t|c, Monday, 19 September 2011 09:24 (thirteen years ago)

er domenech even

r|t|c, Monday, 19 September 2011 09:24 (thirteen years ago)

does that make Steve Bould worth more than 150/1 because... free money?

What is Pelligrini up to these days? Still kicking around pretending to give a fuck at Malaga?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 19 September 2011 09:55 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal should absolutely NOT follow Wenger's personal recommendation on this one

Ismael Klata, Monday, 19 September 2011 09:55 (thirteen years ago)

Replacing Wenger with Domenech would be like replacing Fabregas with Arteta or Nasri with Benayoun.

Matt DC, Monday, 19 September 2011 09:55 (thirteen years ago)

If we still only have four points after eight games get 'arry in to do a job.

James Mitchell, Monday, 19 September 2011 09:56 (thirteen years ago)

FUCK I'd LOVE to see Piksi Stojkovic at the Emirates...a childhood hero

Until it goes tits up

Master of Treacle, Monday, 19 September 2011 10:02 (thirteen years ago)

Replacing Wenger with Domenech would be like replacinhg Fabregas with Dioufy

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 19 September 2011 10:44 (thirteen years ago)

Harsh on Diofy there

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Monday, 19 September 2011 10:45 (thirteen years ago)

How about replacing Wenger with Dioufy though?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 19 September 2011 10:56 (thirteen years ago)

like replacing fabregas with domenech?

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 19 September 2011 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

Having one nutcase at the helm is surely enough for the Arse's long suffering fans?

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Monday, 19 September 2011 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

Fulham fans doing "the Poznan" after equalising against Man City. pretty funny.

http://www.ffcsweden.se/sites/default/files/imagecache/lightbox/do%20the%20poznan1.jpg
http://www.ffcsweden.se/sites/default/files/imagecache/lightbox/do%20the%20poznan2.jpg

spellcheck is really advanced these days (cajunsunday), Monday, 19 September 2011 11:34 (thirteen years ago)

That reminds me - has Harry Enfield got a new catchphrase or does he still just tediously go "ONLY MEEEEE!!!"?

James Mitchell, Monday, 19 September 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

Replacing Wenger with Domenech would be like replacinhg Fabregas with Dioufy

You spelled benayoun wrong.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 19 September 2011 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

joke's been done already today.

Replacing crouch with adebayor otoh

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Monday, 19 September 2011 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

honeymoon period.

bet you crouch will score more goals over two seasons than ade.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 19 September 2011 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

Anybody other than Crouch and I'd say that was a safe-ish bet.

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 September 2011 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

two seasons? He's only on loan!

Crouch will score, at a maximum, ten goals per season at stoke. This will not make up for his general level of performance.

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Monday, 19 September 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

i'm betting on ade being a lazy fucker rather than crouch being remotely competent. the casual manner in which he claimed his first goal yesterday would make me nervous if i was you.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 19 September 2011 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

buuuuuut Sky Sports commentary had that it was a stroke of watchmaker-like intricate skill, and you can't both be right now

the wrong terry to fuckwit (DJ Mencap), Monday, 19 September 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

Okay so I was watching American football yesterday and was kind of surprised to see FOX making a big deal out of broadcasting the Man U/Chelsea match. I mean, getting any kind of real football on any non-ESPN 2, FOX Soccer Channel is a huge deal, made more striking to see it promoted so heavily during American football. Of course, this "broadcast" was tape-delayed and shown at 12:30 am, but, uh, I guess inroads?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 19 September 2011 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

cool, we need more yanks on ilf tbh, it gets quiet at night imo.

Ade's first goal yesterday was brilliant?

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Monday, 19 September 2011 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

Crouch will score 20 goals in the Europa League this season as Stoke rampage to the semi-finals, which will distract from the paltry three goals in the Premiership.

Matt DC, Monday, 19 September 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

I lurk the ILF tons, but being a Yank who, as of now, doesn't have Fox Soccer Channel and only has access to whatever game ESPN 2 decides to air, I don't feel like I have tons to add. That Blackburn/Arsenal game was thrilling though, even had my wife really into it.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 19 September 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

pfft i don't think we're adding anything ourselves, come on in and abuse a hoy hoy like the rest of us

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Monday, 19 September 2011 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

Serious q, I listen to the Football Weekly podcast with James Richardson to keep up with stuff and I really like it (particularly all the other people they bring in to cover other leages and Barry Glendenning's grouchiness), is this a good one to keep up with? Or should I give the Times one a shot?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 19 September 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

Ade's first goal was brilliant, but he wasn't that fussed about it.

And as for his lacklustre celebration after his second.... it doesn't bode well.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 19 September 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

ayoboder

Jon, if you can't find the irish saturday night show 'the premiership' then you're already listening to second best imo

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Monday, 19 September 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

eurgh yesterday was awful

Chris, Monday, 19 September 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

but srsly, a striker tucking away 3 in 2 without looking fussed is a problem? His general play in each game was great.

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Monday, 19 September 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

We're taking darragh and number none's word for it that this show actually exists btw xxp

Ismael Klata, Monday, 19 September 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

Is San Te still supporting Liverpool?

Chris, Monday, 19 September 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

i'm betting on ade being a lazy fucker rather than crouch being remotely competent. the casual manner in which he claimed his first goal yesterday would make me nervous if i was you.

― Upt0eleven, Monday, 19 September 2011 14:04 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

buuuuuut Sky Sports commentary had that it was a stroke of watchmaker-like intricate skill, and you can't both be right now

― the wrong terry to fuckwit (DJ Mencap), Monday, 19 September 2011 14:38 (29 minutes ago) Bookmark

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9HV4adfJGZU/Tfb7pkoZYoI/AAAAAAAAAKo/yeKtXehp2Mc/s1600/1.jpg

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 19 September 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

Ha, was just thinking about that xp! Cruellest trick we ever pulled, that one.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 19 September 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

I like the Times one if only because Moratti is turning into a grouchy old man and I like hearing the change from plucky fan of european football to someone who hates everyone.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 19 September 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

wtf is harry playing at with levy/modric?

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Monday, 19 September 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

He wants to keep our best player happy, what a scumbag.

Matt DC, Monday, 19 September 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

ah cmon matt, his behaviour throughout just beggars belief ffs. Modric is on a good contract with years to run and spent all summer agitating for a move. Redknapo seems to be trying to needle Levy to no discernible end.

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Monday, 19 September 2011 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

jon, stick with football weekly. anything else is just pretenders

maxmombuffsnads (cozen), Monday, 19 September 2011 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 19 September 2011 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

http://bennyhillifier.com/?id=mDCSir4TY5o

maxmombuffsnads (cozen), Monday, 19 September 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

wtf is harry playing at with levy/modric?

was convinced during transfer saga that 'Arry's "He should go, I don't think he shd stay at Spurs" was a bit of dressing-room gamesmanship. If he didn't go, he didn't want to have alienated Modric. Same here. In private to Levy he'll be all "I quite understand if you don't want to pay him that, but I can't have him thinking that I think that." Hence odd public avowals where he sounds more like Luka's agent than manager. Or maybe he gets a cut or something idk.

Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Monday, 19 September 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

one possible angle, yeah

alternatively, he's already putting pressure on for jan window, or moving to get excuses in early. Tho tbh i don't see how this does either of those things.

See, i don't think modric is gonna kick up between now and jan/summer, and he was as good over 90 mins against liverpool as i've seen him. Taking into account that he'll surely go within the timeframe of his current contract, i just don't know what's to be gained by harry constantly stirring this.

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Monday, 19 September 2011 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

looking forward to st. arsenaleringham's day this season

maxmombuffsnads (cozen), Monday, 19 September 2011 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

it will be a sad day i may wear a black armband

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 19 September 2011 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

now arry's havin a go about how he wanted to keep woodgate. maybe the press are the only friends he has who will listen to his problems

mizzell, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 03:28 (thirteen years ago)

Harry might want to put Modric in a higher pay band in order to lift the ceiling on wages that stops Spurs attracting bigger-name players.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 07:39 (thirteen years ago)

maybe.

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 08:05 (thirteen years ago)

not convinced it's a manager's place to get into the way a club's finances are run, and obv that goes quintuple in Arry's case

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 08:07 (thirteen years ago)

goes w/out saying, hence applying pressure from outside like this as opposed to being let near levy

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 08:09 (thirteen years ago)

Also its 'Arry and he won't be there on this date next year

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 08:23 (thirteen years ago)

Harry might want to put Modric in a higher pay band in order to lift the ceiling on wages that stops Spurs attracting bigger-name players.

Yes, this is exactly it. Redknapp hates being in a financial straitjacket and is using Luka to stir the pot with his mates in the press to try and make that happen. He's also trying to keep Modric happy and look like he's on his side, because Levy is pretty dumb when it comes to that side of things.

On the other hand, OTM for wanting to keep Redknapp in that financial straitjacket given the state he's left other clubs. But I can see Redknapp's point when he says "you can't say he's worth more than £40m and then pay him the wages of a £10m player".

Matt DC, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 09:05 (thirteen years ago)

Levy OTM, even.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 09:06 (thirteen years ago)

they pay 10m pound players how much now?

You cannot pay a player less than the contract he signed 18 months ago or whenever. Stands for bently, stands for modric. Levy otm.

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 09:36 (thirteen years ago)

Beasley and McGarry are embedded Sun journalists at Chelsea. Both spent all summer tactically placing the Modric stories when there was nothing to report.

Pay them no heed.

qpr fan who supposedly works for spurs mentioned this on a messageboard the other day, thought it might be of interest to youse lot for future reference

r|t|c, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

i am super hyped for the villa game next super sunday

decent test of how well nu-rangers can cope with a bit of pace and attacking competence; if we turn them over with anything like looking convincing then (besides injuries) i fear nothing outside the generally acknowledged top seven

r|t|c, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

even armand traore looks brill!

r|t|c, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

idk surely modric's claim that levy had promised he could leave was a legit quote?

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

c ron and cesc have codified the precedent here - 'wantaway' players will be kept for a year, mollified if possible and then be sold

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

He doesn't want to be here, get rid.

Chris, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

I thinking getting rid of a player abroad (cesc and ronaldo) is different to getting rid to a rival in the same league. Think Spurs were right to keep him, why would they wanna strengthen Chelsea?

pandemic, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno. I mean we sold them Torres, so. Oh, hang on.

Chris, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

Levy is shrewd but also stubborn. He stuck to his word steadfastly and tbh I could see Modric stuck with us for another three years and just getting used to the idea.

If not, £40m will do.

Signing him to a new contract is nonsense tho.

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/NaniRon1.jpg

mizzell, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

that pretty much covers the first three seasons up to the 2006 world cup, when ronaldo was several yrs younger than nani in the equivalent period

then he bulked up and became the ridiculously athletic and clinical (and kinda boring) forward he is today -- nani has improved in those aspects but he's not going to get to c-ron's level

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

completely different players though

Number None, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

completely tanned

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

It will obviously be difficult for Nani to get to Ronaldo's level considering C-Ron will go down as one of the best ever, but hopefully pundits can finally stop calling him "inconsistent" now.

Number None, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

consistently not as good as cr7

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

Better than Bale though

Number None, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

looking forward to seeing didier pogba tonight

maxmombuffsnads (cozen), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

He's not starting. Haven't seen the bench yet but the first eleven is pretty bizarre

Number None, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

Valencia at right back, Carrick central defence?

boxall, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

yup. four strikers :/

Amos, Valencia, Fryers, Carrick, Fabio, Giggs, Park, Macheda, Diouf, Owen, Berbatov.

Number None, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

pogba on the bench

ezekiel fryers

maxmombuffsnads (cozen), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

Good grief, that line up looks surreal. What kind of formation is it supposed to be? This reminds me of that game against Arsenal (last season?) where we played seven defenders or something.

Neither big nor clever (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

Insert obvious Roony joke here: http://www.manutd.com/en/Club/Sponsors.aspx?sponsorid={4ED489CA-E5F3-4EE4-94C2-671952C12942}

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 18:30 (thirteen years ago)

lol that team. who is fryer?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

With a history of success and not compromising on quality, Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to excellence
With a history of success and not compromising on quality, Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to excellence
With a history of success and not compromising on quality, Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to excellence
With a history of success and not compromising on quality, Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to excellence
With a history of success and not compromising on quality, Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to excellence
With a history of success and not compromising on quality, Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to excellence

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

Hadn't heard of Fryers before today tbh

Number None, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

"a trademark finish" HE FUCKIN SCUFFED IT

zvookster, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

(michael owen)

zvookster, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

berba obviously so much better than anyone on the field, macheda so much worse

cozen, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

oh i'm on the wrong thread aren't i

zvookster, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

joeeeeeeey

can one day go by without you trolling

r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

"Right now we sit above Arsenal in the table - hopefully that's the case in May."

r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

laying down the law fot taraabt
'And I have heard Joey at training sessions say to Adel, "If you want to sulk do it while you’re running back. Don’t do it walking. And if I ask you to do something, do it".

mizzell, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

No, he can't. He's really a bit embarrassing. Not that you'd know that from QPR fans on messageboards, who are viewing him as a speaker of truth to power. Which I think is how he wants to be viewed, rather than as a troll. The Taarabt thing is funny though.

I just want the captain of the Rangers to have a little bit more dignity. Like Shaun Derry.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

yes, he's more dignified a captain than taarabt to be fair.

not exactly a paragon of corinthian values but taken with a pinch of salt i can't help but quite like the lad so far tbh. he's certainly brought the squad together.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

Karl Henry is a cracking person who is a million times the person Barton will ever be. Karl Henry may talk a lot to the press and through the club but none of what comes out of his mouth is ever "i'm a big time charlie" this or "i earn 80k a week" that. He is an honest bloke who would run himself into the ground for this club. I don't think he has ever professed to being a gifted footballer and probably never will.

http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=63512

and if we're really talking embarrassing...

r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

Henry is pish, obviously. The talking to the press thing is weird tho, I get the feeling it's mainly because the Express and Star is a Wolverhampton-based newspaper with a big circulation for a local daily, and they have to put something on the sports pages every night. Don't particularly blame Henry for being the club's designated platitude-spouter.

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

and y'know, if Joey's main hobby is acting the cunt then you've really got to expect some people to rise to it

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

Acting?

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

I guess I admire his drive but he's remarkably stupid, even for a footballer.

What does one wear to a summery execution? Linen? (Michael White), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

i don't think Joey's stupid for a footballer, but he probably thinks he's smarter than the average, which can be a really bad look

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

He listens to The Smiths iirc

Number None, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

he has ideas about the interface btwn individual/society and wears his hair ironically

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 23:12 (thirteen years ago)

he has opinions. 4 U.

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 September 2011 06:35 (thirteen years ago)

In addition to an autobiography, "Heading for Victory", Bruce has published three novels, "Sweeper!", "Defender!" and "Striker!", featuring the exploits of fictional footballer manager Steve Barnes. "Sweeper!" was described as "surprisingly punchy and pacey, although the plot is essentially ludicrous".[170

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 22 September 2011 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

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diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 22 September 2011 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

http://thinkofengland.blogspot.com/2009/12/book-review-sweeper-by-steve-bruce.html

peligro, Thursday, 22 September 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

Hargreaves claims United treated him like a 'guinea pig'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/sep/22/owen-hargreaves-manchester-city-united?CMP=twt_gu

Number None, Thursday, 22 September 2011 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

Was just reading that - huge stuff

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 22 September 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

He said this a few months ago: 'The guys were great, too. It's a wonderful club. The people behind the scenes are terrific. Some of the guys on the medical staff have become great friends. At one stage I did offer to play for nothing this season, just to stay on. But they said, "You don't want to do that" and they were probably right.'

Number None, Thursday, 22 September 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

a 90k a week guinea pig.

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Friday, 23 September 2011 00:56 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/images/avfc/letter-from-randy-paul.jpg

hadnt seen it before but this is amazing

r|t|c, Friday, 23 September 2011 09:49 (thirteen years ago)

"As regards our personal ambitions for the Club they remain as they've been from the beginning: to manage the club for growth. More precisely, our focus is to manage the investments we've made at Villa Park to promote strong financial performance in terms of our commercial activities in order that the Clubs revenue can grow and contribute accordingly to player, manager and other football related wages and costs. This approach is at the core of our broader strategy to create an enduring business model that is stable and yet has the potential to grow, as we feel that the club revenue and player wages are the key to consistent competitiveness. In connection with this strategy, we have targeted being at or within range of a top 20 ranking among clubs in Europe by revenue, which was achieved in the last Deloitte Football report."

r|t|c, Friday, 23 September 2011 09:51 (thirteen years ago)

just some guy bashing on a dustbin lid and shouting 'Oi! 'oi!'

― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 18:41 (8 months ago) Bookmark

r|t|c, Friday, 23 September 2011 09:52 (thirteen years ago)

It does strike me as weird that these perma-injured footballers like Hargreaves and Woodgate suddenly move to a new club a new physio setup and suddenly start being able to start games again.

Matt DC, Friday, 23 September 2011 10:54 (thirteen years ago)

But Hargreaves declared himself fit before he went to City.

Number None, Friday, 23 September 2011 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

what d'you think matt- physio problems at the previous club or player motivated at new club or a blend or something else?

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Friday, 23 September 2011 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

Mental problems

Number None, Friday, 23 September 2011 11:13 (thirteen years ago)

Bit of both maybe. I don't think "motivation" alone is going to get you over a chronic injury but yeah a fresh physio approach probably helps. A lot of luck too.

This might be bullshit and both Woodgate and Hargreaves may just break down again in the next game, of course.

Matt DC, Friday, 23 September 2011 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

i'm going on that assumption alright.

Pay-per-play deal can't hurt tbh

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Friday, 23 September 2011 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

Did City contract Hargreaves just to troll United?

'Main Shop of Love' Gigolo (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 23 September 2011 11:39 (thirteen years ago)

big club with a troll mentality

44.9 percent indie rock individualist (onimo), Friday, 23 September 2011 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

"Nyah we've got this always injured guy you don't want who never played for you" is pretty weak trolling.

Matt DC, Friday, 23 September 2011 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

I'd like to believe City were just trolling but apparently Mancini was told he could only sign players on loan or frees after getting Aguero and he wanted some backup in midfield.

Number None, Friday, 23 September 2011 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

Ahhh see I didn't know that, makes sense

'Main Shop of Love' Gigolo (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 23 September 2011 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

That would explain why he's whining about not having enough players, with a straight face.

Matt DC, Friday, 23 September 2011 11:51 (thirteen years ago)

50playermancitysquad.jpg

'Main Shop of Love' Gigolo (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 23 September 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

With Hargreaves some of the experts, like Richard Stearman for example, just put it down to Fergie being a total cunt.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Friday, 23 September 2011 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

doesnt really explain the straight face tbh i mean there are teams in this league have to field the likes of crouch, jenas or hutton.

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Friday, 23 September 2011 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

have to

pandemic, Friday, 23 September 2011 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

How the mighty are fallen
http://www.youtube.com/user/KeysandGray

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 09:35 (thirteen years ago)

Keys has a look of "Alan Partridge, the Travelodge years" about him there

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 September 2011 10:21 (thirteen years ago)

Free Sky Sports this weekend btw

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

Where's Nigel de Jong btw, is he injured?

'Main Shop of Love' Gigolo (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 24 September 2011 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

This post-Arteta Everton look like Sevilla before they lost Dani Alves, trying to run their whole offense through a full-back.

(i don't really have an opinion atm tbh) (boxall), Saturday, 24 September 2011 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

lol at that keysandgray channel

Summer Slam! (Ste), Saturday, 24 September 2011 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

They actually appear to be homeless now

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

Bit of an edge developing in this one

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

Wait no, it's just been shit

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

otm, switching to sonheim cup

zvookster, Saturday, 24 September 2011 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

Dseko looking like his old self today

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

Just posted that nearly word for word on one of the fantasy threads, due to self-interest.

(i don't really have an opinion atm tbh) (boxall), Saturday, 24 September 2011 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

fuckit

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

Mario <3

'Main Shop of Love' Gigolo (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 24 September 2011 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

deflected though

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

That changes nothing about my former statement

'Main Shop of Love' Gigolo (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 24 September 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

Jesus, Silva is good

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

things Judas has said

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 September 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

Milner's first league goal for City

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

wait really? he's been there ages though!

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 September 2011 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

Arshavin dropped, thank fuck... for... Theo, also known for his skills in leaving his full back open.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 September 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

Sagna shouldn't rly need help against the likes of Chris Eagles.

(i don't really have an opinion atm tbh) (boxall), Saturday, 24 September 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

Chesney already pulling out a classy save.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 September 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

vdv already scored

mizzell, Saturday, 24 September 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

FOR FUCKS SAKE GERIVHO LOOSEN UP THE HEAD BAND YOU WERE 3 ON 1 AND YOU RUN IT STRAIGHT TO THE KEEPER?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 September 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

Chesney Hawkes

spellcheck is really advanced these days (cajunsunday), Saturday, 24 September 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

Brilliant diving header from Roger Johnson

1-0 Liverpool

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 September 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

Coyle is wearing Bolton shorts and socks and boots, it's weird.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 September 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

ok if you are going to open up the pitch and not stand anywhere near each other, blind one touch football is not going to work. someone is always standing next to xavi and not halfway across the pitch from him. aka ffs arsenal

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 September 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

Awesome from Suarez.

Stevie T, Saturday, 24 September 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

Torres straight red.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Saturday, 24 September 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

great goal from Suarez, pish defending tho and getting beat on yr near post never a good look

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 September 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

Lol Torres

'Main Shop of Love' Gigolo (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 24 September 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

fucking team talk!

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

Ha, unlikely. Great goal though.

(i don't really have an opinion atm tbh) (boxall), Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

what did torres do this time?

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

Goal + assist + straight red all within 45'.

(i don't really have an opinion atm tbh) (boxall), Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

oh dear. did he deserve any of it?

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

this is how BBC has it: "Fernando Torres, inexplicably, flies in two-footed, both off the floor and on the run at Mark Gower"

spellcheck is really advanced these days (cajunsunday), Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

Bolton player goes down injured in their own area, Bolton furious when Arsenal play on. Ball immediately breaks to Bolton, they counter and get a shot on goal with player still down, then are *again* furious with Arsenal for playing on.

(i don't really have an opinion atm tbh) (boxall), Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

i went for a piss and returned to find like 6 bolton players surrounding rvi. anyone?

ba has got a hattrick.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

See post immediately above.

(i don't really have an opinion atm tbh) (boxall), Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

I used faster-than-light neutrinos to answer your question.

(i don't really have an opinion atm tbh) (boxall), Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

lol.

i still cant comprehend how no-one has come in for jussi. he'd be perfect the six months every year cech is out. such a better player than botlon deserve.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

Prohibitively expensive due to cost of shirt letters.

RVP gets 100th goal.

(i don't really have an opinion atm tbh) (boxall), Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

Pathetic from Walcott, absolutely alone and doesn't think he can round the GK, weak fucking shot.

(i don't really have an opinion atm tbh) (boxall), Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

nil nil draws: they're what fulham do best

spellcheck is really advanced these days (cajunsunday), Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

need someone like jol to come manage them, get some goals.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

theo rip

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

Berbatov plays

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

Valencia at right-back again. Hmm.

(i don't really have an opinion atm tbh) (boxall), Saturday, 24 September 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, Evans got injured in the warm-up. Ferdinand/Jones is a rock solid central partnership though

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

I've seen em given

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

Couple of superb saves from De Gea, great goal from Nani, and Phil Jones' runs from the back are a thing of wonder. Michael Owen can fuck off though

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

We were awful, but Lucas was a hero, Suarez was magic, and Enrique was solid. Carragher remains the elephant in the room - if it was ever in doubt then hopefully Pepe having a go at him in the 2nd half will wake a few people up to the fact that he's a liability.

Chris, Saturday, 24 September 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

Reina seems a bit wobbly himself these days

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

spurs pls someone?

flipper? I hardly even knew 'er (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 September 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

1-2 win

'Main Shop of Love' Gigolo (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 24 September 2011 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

awes, ta

flipper? I hardly even knew 'er (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 September 2011 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

Crouch has scored a header more to the point

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 September 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

cgaf

flipper? I hardly even knew 'er (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 September 2011 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

Pretty dire second half performance but Stoke do make it bloody difficult. Decent point in the end.

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

Torres had a couple of tackles recently that could have ended badly for him.

At least he's trying. I may have to review my opinion of him if he keeps this up.

Chelsea have an incredibly strong squad at the moment: that's as good a bench as I've seen for years and no Alex or Sturridge.

22 Turnbull, 04 David Luiz, 08 Lampard, 15 Malouda, 20 McEachran, 11 Drogba, 21 Kalou

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Saturday, 24 September 2011 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno. Malouda and Kalou are pretty crap and Drogba and Lampard are past it.

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

Eye thought Torres did so much that was excellent last week, though you can't exactly say he had a good game when it was so overshadowed by the unspeakable. He did at least look a lot like the guy that was so great at Liverpool for the most part.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 September 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

Torres was, in all seriousness, superb last week. He lost Jones time and time again, and that lad is meant to be the best player in the world since Gareth Bale or something. I'm starting to warm to the bloke, and the red card actually helps cos it's so endearingly stupid.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Saturday, 24 September 2011 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

Do you see a title challenge emerging Pete? I've thought it'll take time to click, but the way you played in general last week suggested that might be pretty close (notwithstanding that Utd battered you in terms of, y'know, actually going about winning). Also, what do you reckon about Lampard and Drogba in this new era?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 September 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

From what I've seen so far, I think we'll finish above United but I think City will win the league. But that's assuming no awful injury crisis for any of the top three, nor Roman sacking a key member of staff on a whim. I don't think there's much between the three at all.

Lampard and Drogba will be needed - it's a long season with lots of games, and they have experience and nous. Drogba definitely has more goals and games in him, just have to be more selective when used - he'd have been great to bring off the bench at Old Trafford.

And while Lampard can slow the game down, he's also our best player at keeping possession and I think/hope a place/role can be found for him. He's an adaptable, intelligent player and will probably just drop deeper - he can do a better job than Meireles for those games when we don't need a specialist DM but just somebody to keep the ball moving. He played very well against Fulham.

Mata is probably the most important signing Chelsea have made for years. If he gets injured, maybe we go back to Lampard and Drogba. But I don't see us starting with all three of Mikel-Lampard-Malouda if AVB can possibly help it.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Saturday, 24 September 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

Anyone know a live football radio program streaming on the internet? I have to do some chores and can't watch but would like to catch up with what I'm missing & analysis of the earlier games.

(i don't really have an opinion atm tbh) (boxall), Saturday, 24 September 2011 19:58 (thirteen years ago)

5live?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 September 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

That's where I went first but it said "Sorry there are no programmes currently being broadcast."

(i don't really have an opinion atm tbh) (boxall), Saturday, 24 September 2011 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

Oh I must have had the wrong station, n/m.

(i don't really have an opinion atm tbh) (boxall), Saturday, 24 September 2011 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

Am I right in thinking Arsenal are the only English side that do the Bundesliga thing where the stadium announcer says the goalscorer's first name, then the crowd shouts their surname?

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 24 September 2011 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

no one else would tolerate it

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

What on earth can you have seen so far to suggest Chelsea will finish above United? Although teams that come screaming out of the blocks never seem to win the league.

Matt DC, Sunday, 25 September 2011 12:39 (thirteen years ago)

Am I right in thinking Arsenal are the only English side that do the Bundesliga thing where the stadium announcer says the goalscorer's first name, then the crowd shouts their surname?

― William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 24 September 2011 23:41 (Yesterday) Bookmark

I remember watching them announce the team prematch once in which both times they said Alexander the fans shouted Hleb. Poor Song, having to play in front of these horrible excuses for fans.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 25 September 2011 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

haha

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 25 September 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

Fave was always "Denil-" followed by "SON!!!".

James Mitchell, Sunday, 25 September 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

Villa are painful to watch. Quite liking QPR though

Number None, Sunday, 25 September 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

The Celtic announcer occasionally attempts those callback team lists, usually for Big European Nights. It's funny listening to how the level of response corresponds to the popularity/bombscareicity of the player.

44.9 percent indie rock individualist (onimo), Sunday, 25 September 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

Richard Dunne has broken Carragher's og record by the way.

Matt DC, Sunday, 25 September 2011 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

QPR deserved something out of the game but until Bent gets back and QPR can go shopping again, both teams look like they're going to struggle to get goals.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Sunday, 25 September 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

That og was really harsh on Dunne though. Just after Neville had given him man of the match too.

Number None, Sunday, 25 September 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

Villa - still undefeated, and falling down the table. The QPR comeback was inevitable and sadly, true to form for Villa for years and years now. So frustrating.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 25 September 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

God, McLeish has turned Villa into Birmingham. Dirty, clumping sods. Shame.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 25 September 2011 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

Armand Traore, what a shit cunt:

"I just thought he was a disgrace," said Warnock. "I will fine him as much as I possibly can.

"I told him to his face 'you've let me down and you've let the team down'."

Traore dived into the challenge in an attempt to regain possession with QPR chasing the game, but Warnock was less than happy with his summer signing's actions.

The QPR boss added: "As an opposition player when you are winning 1-0 away from home, that is what you want. I just think he was a bit thick and naive.

"I said to him 'when we're playing at Fulham next week what are you going to be doing?' But he is learning. He is a good player and will be an even better one after that."

James Mitchell, Monday, 26 September 2011 08:05 (thirteen years ago)

Like on Championship Manager when you were occasionally could either comment negatively,positively or neutrally on a player's sending off. It them would appear in the paper as "Upt0eleven blasts Traoré" to which the player would either respond that "the manager's comments were fair, promising to take them on board" or say that he "feels Upt0eleven's comments were unfair" and hand in a transfer request the next day.

Better off keeping schtum ime but blasting was always fun.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 26 September 2011 09:06 (thirteen years ago)

Tottenham Hotspur has overhauled its visual identity, one of a raft of measures the Premier League club is planning in a bid to exploit what it has identified as its core values - “flair, style and adventure”.

The North London side hopes the changes, which will see the colours, fonts and the tone of voice used in all its marketing materials updated, aim to differentiate the club from rivals and boost income from sponsors and fans.

The aim of the refresh, according to the club’s commercial director Charlie Wijeranta, is to get people to recognise the club’s communications without seeing its logo.

http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/sectors/sport/spurs-brand-refresh-pushes-club’s-“flair-style-and-adventure”/3030429.article

James Mitchell, Monday, 26 September 2011 09:41 (thirteen years ago)

Don't know how they did it, but they've already took over the GIS results for Flair, style and identity

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 26 September 2011 09:56 (thirteen years ago)

adventure i mean

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 26 September 2011 09:56 (thirteen years ago)

Love it.

Matt DC, Monday, 26 September 2011 09:58 (thirteen years ago)

Should have gone with SLOGAN NAMING RIGHTS.

James Mitchell, Monday, 26 September 2011 10:05 (thirteen years ago)

if warnock exaggerates traore's sin now and comes down on him like a ton of bricks then maybe just maybe the kid will learn not to do it again when it might matter. and that, dearest arsenal fans, is how you make players out of raw talent.

r|t|c, Monday, 26 September 2011 10:13 (thirteen years ago)

as for the game, villa were pathetic and the ref's a fucking cunt. we've still got some issues to iron out but on a normal day would still have been worth a two goal victory.

r|t|c, Monday, 26 September 2011 10:16 (thirteen years ago)

I was disappointed Dunne didn't actually come out to accept his MOTM award, there's every possibility he just told them to fuck off though

Number None, Monday, 26 September 2011 10:17 (thirteen years ago)

and yes, the ref had a shocker

Number None, Monday, 26 September 2011 10:17 (thirteen years ago)

no, that is how you get midtable guys at best out of raw talent. whatever the fuck wenger did w/ henry at monaco and wilshere the past ten years is how you get players from raw talent.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 26 September 2011 10:18 (thirteen years ago)

i don't see the comparison between Wilshere and Henry?

Number None, Monday, 26 September 2011 10:19 (thirteen years ago)

Wilshere is 19 and he's a first team regular

Number None, Monday, 26 September 2011 10:19 (thirteen years ago)

what, getting blatantly super talented players to play like themselves? yeah whatever.

as if so happens, qpr actually are a midtable side. but in the newcastle and wolves games i was still surprised with how good traore was; certainly better than i'd ever seen him for arsenal. once he gets a bit of discipline trained into him he'll be a very decent player indeed. v plausibly a cut above yr upson, muamba, larsson types potentially.

r|t|c, Monday, 26 September 2011 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

btw ahoyhoy if i search the archives am i gonna find you spouting off somewhere saying how traore is the future and is further evidence of arsene's masterplan?

r|t|c, Monday, 26 September 2011 10:32 (thirteen years ago)

umm

James Mitchell, Monday, 26 September 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that was after he got motm in the wolves game? do keep up.

r|t|c, Monday, 26 September 2011 10:40 (thirteen years ago)

xpost Don't think there's a single QPR fan who wouldn't accept mid-table as a great achievement out of a team made up of perennial underachievers, honest toilers and mental flair players.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Monday, 26 September 2011 11:20 (thirteen years ago)

bit like arsenal really

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 26 September 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

tbf i've always gone gibbs >> traore.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

fergie says telly has too much power

"When you shake hands with the devil you have to pay the price," he said. "Television is God at the moment."

Great way with words there.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 September 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

do you get some kind of alert every time Ferguson gives an interview?

Number None, Monday, 26 September 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

ah come on it's a keegan-esque quote, i might not have posted if it wasn't fergie but still would have thought it was dumb.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

plus it's been plastered all over the BBC today

the morbius challopelago (cozen), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

Kieran Richardson is a fucking awful player.

(i don't really have an opinion atm tbh) (boxall), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

Just a bit of joshing. You can't deny you have a weakness for an inflammatory Fergie quote

Number None, Monday, 26 September 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

haha no i know, of course! it's not that it was inflammatory, just calling tv god and the devil within the same quote.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

actually sort of beautifully put except don't credit fergie with that

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

I avoid Fergie rants tbh. Cast a brief eye over the headline and move on is the best policy i find

Number None, Monday, 26 September 2011 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

and yes, Richardson is a fucking awful player. The hatred i had for him when he played for Utd was strong

Number None, Monday, 26 September 2011 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

Wes Brown looking awful tonight as well, Norwich up 2-0.

(i don't really have an opinion atm tbh) (boxall), Monday, 26 September 2011 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

bruce in hot water

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 September 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is preparing to make a shock move for Manchester United striker Michael Owen, according to reports in Caughtoffside.com
Still one more important injury left in his career.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

that would be too perfect

Number None, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

When Fergie's complaining about the influence of TV, what he actually means is "we should be paid more money". He knows full well that if United could engineer an international rights deal similar to the one Barca or Real have then United would be sitting pretty.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

that's a stretch

Number None, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

didn't he actually say that the distribution was fair?

pandemic, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

actually, having just checked it he does sort of contradict himself on that issue.

Number None, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

clubs shd be free to negotiate their own rights deals providing they don't belong to a league and are free to negotiate individual meaningless friendlies

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

Sunderland defender Titus Bramble has been arrested on suspicion of sexual assault and possession of a Class A drug.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 12:08 (thirteen years ago)

Same incident as before?

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe he's missing his brother.

44.9 percent indie rock individualist (onimo), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

oh, bramblepaws

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

he does have a history of being caught in possession

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━sʇʇnq━┻ (cozen), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

Mancini is alleged to have told Tevez he could “f***off back to Argentina” after the former City skipper defied his boss by refusing to come off the bench in Tuesday's Champions League group game.

City boss Mancini is also understood to have directed a similar volley of abuse at Edin Dzeko, telling him to “f*** off back to Bosnia,” after he reacted angrily to being subbed in the 2-0 defeat.

r|t|c, Thursday, 29 September 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

Would be hilarious if Mancini got the sack for this.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

it's an employment law nightmare

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/poll/2011/sep/29/england-alex-oxlade-chamberlain-call

maybe a worse crime than their 'omg we have this super exclusive check back at 7' thing earlier this year.

he's had 1 cl game, should we call him up??????

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

just kinda imagining bobby going through the squad one by one after the game, finally culminating in owen hargreaves being told to f*** off back to canada

r|t|c, Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/early-doors/article/350448/

YEP my thoughts exactly

r|t|c, Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

This would never have happened under Garry Cook.

You might think ED jests but not once in Cook's reign as chief executive did a high-profile striker decide he didn't want to play in a showpiece Champions League match. It never happened.

because this is their first time in the cl?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

what does the next sentence say

r|t|c, Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

tbf to the graun everyone is already p much certain ox is better than theo so if the latter is expected to get a call up every time then why not

r|t|c, Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

he was v good last night

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

i didnt watch last night but from what i have seen ox does seem one of those ready-packed v mature ones

like ross barkley by comparison is obv a raw yoof. even jones, smalling, welbeck, cleverly are come to think of it.

r|t|c, Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2011/September/Behind-the-scenes-POY

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 29 September 2011 23:50 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2011/September/~/media/Images/Home/News/Club%20news/2011/September/BHS%20player%20of%20the%20year%20awards/Joe%20spots%20the%20camera.ashx?h=281&w=500&as=1

Every time Tevez does something objectively indefensible something ends up making me feel sorry for him, like this picture.

boxall, Thursday, 29 September 2011 23:58 (thirteen years ago)

JackWilshere Jack Wilshere
The proudest day of my life today! Archie Jack Wilshere was born at 15.06 uk time and weighed 7lb 11oz. I am the happiest man in the world!
8 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Good thing he has all that time off

Number None, Friday, 30 September 2011 00:52 (thirteen years ago)

mancini out
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/sep/29/robin-van-persie-carlos-tevez-manchester-city?CMP=twt_gu

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━sɹǝʞɹɐɯ━┻ (cozen), Friday, 30 September 2011 04:35 (thirteen years ago)

de gea is shit... at stealing
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3845162/Man-United-goalie-David-de-Gea-caught-nicking-119-doughnut.htm

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━sɹǝʞɹɐɯ━┻ (cozen), Friday, 30 September 2011 04:37 (thirteen years ago)

loooooool

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Friday, 30 September 2011 05:26 (thirteen years ago)

Unbelievable:

Sir Alex is fully behind his star signing. He said of de Gea earlier this month: "He's 20 years of age and doesn't know the culture of the country.

"That's a lot to deal with but he has shown great composure about the whole thing.

"He's not got himself flapping about the goalmouth. I think he's absolutely outstanding. The boy is tremendous."

James Mitchell, Friday, 30 September 2011 07:20 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, missed the "earlier this month" bit of that.

James Mitchell, Friday, 30 September 2011 07:20 (thirteen years ago)

ffs

Former Aston Villa Manager David O'Leary: Jose Mourinho Rates Me

David O'Leary, the former Arsenal defender who went on to enjoy success as a manager with Leeds United and Aston Villa, has revealed that Inter boss Jose Mourinho is a significant ally in his search for a return to management.

O'Leary has stated that he is keen to make a return to top-level management as soon as possible, and Mourinho might be only to happy to provide him with a reference."I’ve had requests to go back into football and it’s not me bigging myself up or thinking I deserve a bigger job but I just felt that the jobs weren’t right in any way," the Irishman explained to The Daily Mail.

"I’ve had lots of offers mainly from abroad and I think that can only come from people remembering Leeds in the Champions League.

"Some with loads and loads of dollars. Jose Mourinho was very good and recommended me for a really big job but I just felt I couldn’t live where it was with the family really. That was about six or seven months ago.

"We’re not friends but Jose has always kind of rated me if you know what I mean. He was asked a question to recommend somebody for something or put them up and I was very grateful that he did it.

"When I thanked him he said, 'David, I wasn’t doing you a favour even though I like you, it’s because I rate you' and that’s his attitude.

‘I saw (Fabio) Capello at the soccer writers’ function the other week and he came down from the top table and said 'when are you bloody getting back in the game'?

"It was nice getting that from Capello. A lot of them know that you’re too good to be out of it. That’s not me trying to big myself up. People in the game know how difficult Doug Ellis and Aston Villa was."

Number None, Friday, 30 September 2011 09:07 (thirteen years ago)

Some with loads and loads of dollars

Come on, who talks like this? You don't say "I'm going to the cashpoint to take out some pounds", do you?

Jose Mourinho was very good and recommended me for a really big job but I just felt I couldn’t live where it was with the family really.

ha, would love to know where this was - Jan Mayen FC or Kerguelen national team boss, I'm thinking

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 September 2011 09:21 (thirteen years ago)

"When I thanked him he said, 'David, I wasn’t doing you a favour even though I like you, it’s because I rate you' and that’s his attitude.

‘I saw (Fabio) Capello at the soccer writers’ function the other week and he came down from the top table and said 'when are you bloody getting back in the game'?

This genuinely reads like a quote from The Office

Number None, Friday, 30 September 2011 09:29 (thirteen years ago)

Terek Grozny, maybe.

Did he have any excuses for being shockingly poor as manager of Al-Ahli?

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Friday, 30 September 2011 09:31 (thirteen years ago)

Get the feeling Jose wrote a letter recommending O'Leary for an assistant manager's job with Tony at Gabala, but Tony would only talk to his dog.

James Mitchell, Friday, 30 September 2011 09:33 (thirteen years ago)

What's with The Guardian liveblogging Fridays now?!

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 September 2011 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

that's hilarious

Number None, Friday, 30 September 2011 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

we have (temp) got rid of Almunia! wooooooooooooooooooo! drinks for all!

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Friday, 30 September 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

nb that O'Leary thing was two years ago

MPx4A, Friday, 30 September 2011 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

Shit, it was up as news on some site or other

Number None, Friday, 30 September 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal financial guff shows overall level of group net debt reduced by £40mn-odd despite less property revenue.

SELF-SUSTAINING MODEL, WHOOOOOAHHH
SELF-SUSTAINING MODEL, WHOOOOOAHHH
IT COMES FROM ARSENAL
NO ONE ELSE GIVES A FUCK

James Mitchell, Friday, 30 September 2011 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

The Group's property business continues to be debt free and generating surplus cash for the Group. The overall level of Group net debt had been reduced to £97.8 million (2010 - £135.6 million) at the balance sheet date.

so we are only about 3 or 4 years away from paying off the debt? In which we'll be looking at 40m more than now a season to throw around the team? :D

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

oh wait, we still made money off the property stuff, just not as much.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal also don't smoke, drink, or take drugs, and believe in the value of having a good breakfast. Never put off til tomorrow what you can do today!

Matt DC, Friday, 30 September 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

In a few years' time the club will probably have to spend that extra £40mn a season on bailing out the failed NAMING RIGHTS supermarket development up the road.

James Mitchell, Friday, 30 September 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal also don't smoke, drink, or take drugs, and believe in the value of having a good breakfast. Never put off til tomorrow what you can do today!

― Matt DC, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:10 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

"First, I have to speak to Gallas," said Wenger, before his own previous as a smoker came out. "I did smoke but never a lot and never when I played. After, when I became a young coach, I sometimes had one [cigarette] because my assistant was smoking at three o'clock in the morning, when we had lost a big game.

"In France, we all smoke. I have seen buses in France that you would not believe, you do not see each other. When I was a player, nobody would ever tell you that you should not smoke. We were driving home in coaches. You had to open the windows in winter to see each other."

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

did we ever get round to discussing that arsenal rap track w/ that one witeboi as dioufy would call him

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

Official site:

Last season was Almunia’s seventh as an Arsenal player and despite making just 14 appearances during the campaign, he left no doubt as to his ability when called upon.
lol

James Mitchell, Friday, 30 September 2011 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

top five worst post 2k5 arsenal players pls

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

The Group's property business continues to be debt free and generating surplus cash for the Group. The overall level of Group net debt had been reduced to £97.8 million (2010 - £135.6 million) at the balance sheet date.
so we are only about 3 or 4 years away from paying off the debt? In which we'll be looking at 40m more than now a season to throw around the team? :D

― Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:07 (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

run out of fabregases to sell though.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

that doesn't include the cesc and nasri sale, it is for 2010.

worst-
al
big phil
cygan
bischoff
hoyte

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

oh shiii forgot silvestre.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

senderos was part of the astonishingly successful 2k6 european cup decence tbfttl

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

so were hoyte, flamini, cygan and eboue

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

imo arsenal went to shit when they failed to sign baptista permanently

i remember remarking at the time that his barnstorming proto-phil jones runs would be befitting of an epithet such as 'the beast', but instead arsenal fans scorned his bigness and insisted on 'craptista'

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

significance of including flamini in with that other dross?

Also, if your worst five players have since left, how comes yer shit now?

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

hoyte wasnt even playing for arsenal that season, cygan hardly played in the cl knockout phase

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

flam isn't a defender, thats why i included him

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

wasnt baptista complete pony apart from that one time he pwned liverpool

r|t|c, Friday, 30 September 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

baps looked so unfit and overweight when he was with us. he'd try making those beast runs and get out of breath before reaching the box!

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

West Ham are ready to offer Carlos Tevez an escape route from Manchester City by taking him back to Upton Park on loan.

mizzell, Friday, 30 September 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

the snack box

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

julie baps was destroyed by the scorn of the arsenal bloggerati, literally drove him to to an early death from comfort eating

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

baptista would have done alright if they didn't make powerbomb a red card offence.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

Baptista got 9 in 11 for Malaga last year

Number None, Friday, 30 September 2011 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/1699782.stm

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 30 September 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

*wipes brow*

Number None, Friday, 30 September 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/QlxaJ.png

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 30 September 2011 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

Good opening this.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 October 2011 11:59 (thirteen years ago)

that was crazy from distin

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, enjoying it so far

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

Christ, wtf

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

ref otm

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

No way, that's an awful decision.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

very harsh red

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━sɹǝʞɹɐɯ━┻ (cozen), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

entire airborn momentum in on suarez's shin/ankle, yeah he pulled his studs out but more reds for that would be welcome imo

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

Never a straight red. He went for and had the ball ffs

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

Haven't seen a replay yet where I could see that as a red

MPx4A, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez was kinda coming in from the side though, he looked like he was just sort of going for the ball and the player's momentum caused him to be in the way, it wasn't quite like hospital ball 50-50 and he just brutally went through man and ball

MPx4A, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

Cahill taking a chance there

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

all about the physics. Six foot three or w/e flying around like liu kang is where you get 'unfortunate' ramsay legbreaks from. Reckless challenge at full speed, yeah going for the ball, yeah got the ball, but reckless.

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:17 (thirteen years ago)

When players reassuringly shepherd a red carded opponent off the pitch is it like generally accepted that they're muttering Barton style "get off my pitch you prick" mockery or is there some fraternal professional bond where they feel sympathy for them

MPx4A, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:17 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/7xtXC.gif
xp

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━sɹǝʞɹɐɯ━┻ (cozen), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

Deems, so give him a yellow for recklessness then. Never is this a red.

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

xp lol

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

Don't think it was reckless though - he got there first, his 'harmful' momentum (i.e. studs) was downwards, he was sufficiently before Suarez that if anything Suarez should've been the one pulling out. I mean it's football, there's going to be some contact and this isn't the same as contact from a foul.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:20 (thirteen years ago)

It wasn't even a foul ffs - that replay from behind Rodwell makes any contact look like an afterthought.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:22 (thirteen years ago)

Completely bonkers decision ffs

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

the harmful momentum was from rodwell's knee tbh, the studs are irrelevant here- as is the ball, quite frankly, it's the speed at which rodwell hits suarez having left the ground that gets him a red.

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:25 (thirteen years ago)

Terrible decision, everyone except darragh OTM.

ailsa, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:25 (thirteen years ago)

lol y'all think i'm trolling but i'm not

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

Thread needs Kerr input for maximum controversial-refereeing points.

ailsa, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

^^ excellent I'm-not-trolling trolling right there

xp

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

nah i'm not tbf LBI, i'm on record for years a

Lol shit decision

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

That was a penalty, but still.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

that was stupid

mizzell, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

was just joking Deems ;)

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

:-DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

Justice!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

as being all for reds when a player goes in off the ground, regardless of intent for ball or getting the ball. The relevant factors are more, imo, whether you're going to hit another player with force likely to injure, the ball's presence doesn't excuse that imo.

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:33 (thirteen years ago)

that should be red for hibbert, see?

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

The Liverpool players have clearly had pirouette lessons from Suarez

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

More justice!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

great match tho!

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

what is andy carroll's deal

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━sɹǝʞɹɐɯ━┻ (cozen), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

great match tho!

― holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, October 1, 2011 2:36 PM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

how hibbert's not walked there i dunno

Lol sky sports boys DYIN in the heat

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:39 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll to score next - 7/1. That's for the main striker of the side a man up, who are attacking a lot.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

hope you took that IK

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━sɹǝʞɹɐɯ━┻ (cozen), Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

Well that's worth 35m, surely...

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

main striker, I said

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

Ha, I never take them obviously, just flag 'em up to boost you guys' pockets.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

important goal in the career of liverpool's future all-time top scorer

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

carrollols aside, enrique did good there

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

moving to within 342 of Ian Rush there

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

Was just thinking that was brilliant of Baines getting back there

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

Cool finish all the same.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

lucas second yellow refuses to come out of the ref's pocket there

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

Very strange corner

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

De Gea not playing. Something something doughnut.

Number None, Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

if Carroll reduced his pushing over opposition defenders/trying to put the ball in the back of the net ratio from the 20/1 mark he might score more often

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

that or he should just push over more defenders

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

not sure it's possible to fit more of that into his game. refs seem to be okay with it tho.

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

Sunderland two down within four minutes!

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

steve bruce

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

stevy brucy

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

Soccer Saturday - 5 mins in, Sunderland 0 West Brom 2
Iain Dowie - "It's almost as if Bendtner doesn't care at times. He's getting a right roasting from the crowd."

pandemic, Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

Rodwell sending off perhaps the worst red card decision I've ever seen btw. We were meh. Enrique is great tho.

pandemic, Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

Enrique was laughably good. I counted at least 7 headers from Lucas that reached a red shirt. Him and Skrtel were beasts in the air today.

Chris, Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

Rodwell sending off perhaps the worst red card decision I've ever seen btw.

Worse than when Adebayor got sent off for standing near a ruckus v. Chelsea in the Carling Cup final, or RVI got sent off for taking a shot last year v. Barcelona?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

1524: GOALFLASH Sunderland 1-2 West Brom (Nicklas Bendtner)

doesn't care at all, obv

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

RVP wasn't a straight red. Who watches the Carling Cup Final?

pandemic, Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

2-2 now lol

pandemic, Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

except Ben Foster is my Fantasy keeper. so looool

pandemic, Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

Yes it was worth than either of those xp. Obviously. Graeme Poll not sending that guy off for two yellows is maybe comparable.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

worse. Thorry.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

i'm confused. i didn't see it but you guys are saying it was a dangerous tackle upthread and yet it was a wrong sending off? surely recklessness is more important to a decision than whether he got the ball?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

yes

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

it wasn't reckless is the thing

pandemic, Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

ya he can float

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

Utd have been shit this half. Norwich defending well

Number None, Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

calmly, rationally and without passion: McCarthy out

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

What's with all these two goals in two minutes today?

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 1 October 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

Also: Mario <3

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 1 October 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

teams been following my orient fm game in how to defend i guess ;_;

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 1 October 2011 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

Terrible miss there from Pilkington at OT.

44.9 percent indie rock individualist (onimo), Saturday, 1 October 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

Punished immediately.

44.9 percent indie rock individualist (onimo), Saturday, 1 October 2011 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

christ that was lucky i.e. performance of champions

Number None, Saturday, 1 October 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

BBC had Wolves at 2-2 there, now back to 1-2.

44.9 percent indie rock individualist (onimo), Saturday, 1 October 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

wrongly chopped off they're saying

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 October 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

saw the mistake, text commentary doesn't even mention a disallowed goal.

seem to have had a go at them for the last half hour, doesn't alter the result or the sequence of results and imo McCarthy's reached the limit of what he's gonna achieve, if we don't get rid it's gonna be another exciting struggle for 17th all season and that's not good enough.

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 October 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

who would you like, realistically, to take teh job?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 1 October 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

oh god knows but you reach a point, right? a lot of the potential replacements wd be potentially nightmarish but there's only so long you can watch a guy make the same "mistakes" - not mistakes, really, just his approach to players and the game - without wanting rid. i think the squad is good enough to finish comfortably midtable if the right players play with the right approach, but we still need to address the glaring fucking deficiencies at both FB positions and in the holding midfield role, deficiencies he's seen fit to do nothing about for at least 2 seasons now

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 October 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

So have you finally turned against McCarthy?

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

i've been up and down for a long time tbh but fuck comedy changes of heart, i'm done with him

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

entitlement is an awful thing

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

how so? just think the dude can't take us any further

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno are these guys midtable tbh but can sympathise with mick being more of a problem than an asset at this stage. The next step isn't there and his negative outlook is a hindrace to taking it.

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

it was a 'jol out' kinda joke tbh

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

there's the makings of a reasonable EPL team there in an EPL that isn't that great tbh, we're playing good football in fits and starts. you're right about his cautiousness but there's also this irrational patience with some players and an inability to be tactically flexible as far as i can see

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

needs wenger in as attacking coach

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

surprise Doyle signed his new contract mid-week, he looks...disaffected

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

Have now seen the Rodwell sending off. smh at darragh

Number None, Saturday, 1 October 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

Hey guys...hey, hey - GUYS: Alan Hutton.

MPx4A, Saturday, 1 October 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

yah?

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 1 October 2011 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

rodwell was sent off cuz he was shit and nobody has ever rated him, unlike ross barkley who is totally brilliant and well worth £30m in january

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 1 October 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

He...he shouldn't be allowed :(

MPx4A, Saturday, 1 October 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

Balotelli's finish was pretty sweet. I think he cracked a smile

Number None, Saturday, 1 October 2011 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

Steve Kean: "We're in a difficult moment"

Number None, Saturday, 1 October 2011 19:54 (thirteen years ago)

anyone giving newcastle much credit, or is their start down to their schedule?

mizzell, Saturday, 1 October 2011 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

dad was at the match today, him and my brother thought they were mediocre at best and the position is flattering as hell

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 October 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

That was pretty much the conclusion after the QPR game too iirc. Still, lots of teams have had just as easy starts.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 October 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

could they make that montage seem any more like a hastily cribbed together obituary tribute

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 1 October 2011 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

MOTTY DIE SOON

MPx4A, Saturday, 1 October 2011 23:02 (thirteen years ago)

Hey Baptista fans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBcXP4s3Sc8

Number None, Sunday, 2 October 2011 02:33 (thirteen years ago)

smh @ darragh

Idk, wisdom like peace comes dropping slow i guess. I can see an argument for yellow, i can see an argument for play on, i support an argument for red.

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 02:58 (thirteen years ago)

I really dig how much enjoyment the City fans are taking from their team at the moment. United were like that about a decade ago.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 2 October 2011 10:18 (thirteen years ago)

Utd fans were like that a couple of weeks ago

Number None, Sunday, 2 October 2011 10:20 (thirteen years ago)

Ha, maybe - it looks great fun to be supporting City right now though.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 2 October 2011 10:25 (thirteen years ago)

1309: Extraordinary. I've just seen Spurs boss Harry Redknapp being interviewed on Sky Sports ahead of today's north London derby, wearing a pair of what I can only describe as a pair of 'Ronnie Corbett' glasses. I just hope he leaves them on for the game...

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

pics

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━sɹǝʞɹɐɯ━┻ (cozen), Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:17 (thirteen years ago)

http://imgur.com/k3M45

SHADDERS? ON ME LUNGS?

James Mitchell, Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

Arrgh

http://i.imgur.com/k3M45.jpg

James Mitchell, Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

latfh

known for melding an outrageous stage presence with tenacious hooks (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

Sturridge in

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

Daniel Sturridge has gone to Chelsea?

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

mr custos received a peerage?

r|t|c, Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

RIP Lolton

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

whilst a lot of the media interest has been centred on Blackburn and Sunderland, Bolton look like they could be doomed by Halloween.

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

Bolton are terrible, and will continue to be until Holden or Lee get back.

pandemic, Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

This Sturridge chap could be a good bet to solve Citeh's striker crisis.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

i love the Sturridge fam

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

idk, bolton's schedule has been pretty tough. losses to city, pool, united, arsenal, and chelsea don't really seem like warning signs. but losing to norwich at home does.

mizzell, Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

There were pieces at new year predicting this kind of trouble for Bolton. Basically, they've run out of money and their recent performance is a bit of a bubble.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

Bolton won only one of their last six last season. 6 points out of 39 since mid-April.

44.9 percent indie rock individualist (onimo), Sunday, 2 October 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

sigh

r|t|c, Sunday, 2 October 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

thought we might come a cropper here but this might be a good thrashing

r|t|c, Sunday, 2 October 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal: Szczesny, Sagna, Mertesacker, Song, Gibbs, Coquelin, Arteta, Ramsey, Walcott, Gervino, Van Persie.

Tottenham: Friedel; Walker, Kaboul, King, Assou-Ekotto; Van der Vaart, Parker, Modric, Bale; Adebayor, Defoe.

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 2 October 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

assume that is vdv at right wing, has he ever done anything playing there before?

could be a very high scoring game

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 2 October 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

Sure there was some discussion here btw MattDC and DMac about VDV playing on the right? Has done it before for Spurs to good effect? Possibly only in one game tho

pandemic, Sunday, 2 October 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

doesn't work for holland either

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 2 October 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

Did anyone watch Chelsea? I only saw the second goal (Lampard), but it was a peach of a team goal.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 2 October 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

Andy Wilkinson somehow avoided a red card after momentarily thinking he was a pole dancer and wrapping his legs around Nathan Dyer.

Chris, Sunday, 2 October 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

basically it's a new crisis for villas-boas who has now permanently alienated his best and second most english player while perservering with poohead torres for too long and they would have won every game 5-1 if only they let martin samuel pick the team

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 2 October 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

Crouch plants his studs in another Swansea player's thigh and also avoids red.

Chris, Sunday, 2 October 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

4-2 spurs

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━sɹǝʞɹɐɯ━┻ (cozen), Sunday, 2 October 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

vdv on right won't stay on right but walker will overlap.

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

how the fuck is that going to work defensively? not like walker is cafu

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 2 October 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't see it but didn't coquelin have a mare against man utd?

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━sɹǝʞɹɐɯ━┻ (cozen), Sunday, 2 October 2011 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

Can I just say, wait till ya see that Wilkinson challenge on MOTD.

Chris, Sunday, 2 October 2011 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

tryna think of a greater improvement in one replacement than adebayor for crouch

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

sayin

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

messi for giuly i suppose, tho giuly was a good player

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez for Torres tbh. Carroll for Torres, come to that.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

ANDY JOHNSON HATTRICK IN 2011????????????

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

classic

r|t|c, Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

gary neville is so inept he should be on itv

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

has a terrible voice/delivery but his analysis is actually OK I find

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━sɹǝʞɹɐɯ━┻ (cozen), Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

Mertesacker has been tidy so far, as has Coquelin. Song is no centre back.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

GERVINLOL

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

couple of ropey moments from mertesacker then

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━sɹǝʞɹɐɯ━┻ (cozen), Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

Jolton

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

Is that a sending off then?

Number None, Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

QUEENS LOL RANGERS

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

spurs need to play 4231 in these games

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Beautiful.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

LOLRSELOL

r|t|c, Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

ZONLAL MARKING

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

oops ZONLOL MARKING

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

VdV actually is scoring again lately!

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

i guess it helps when he just runs through the middle rather than trying to tackle left backs

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

can we not wait for St Arseninghams Day for Wenger to be fired

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

W00t Swansea!

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

Sunday, 23 October 2011
QPR v Chelsea, 16:00

Sunday, 30 October 2011
Tottenham v QPR, 16:00

Saturday, 5 November 2011
QPR v Man City, 17:30

^_^

r|t|c, Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

Marvellously even-handed half time analysis from the stupid big-jawed cunt, although at least he didn't try any racist jokes about Chinese people.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

speechless at Fulham

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

game on

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

Probably need to repair another hole in the net after that.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

What's with that marking? Spurs don't look right at all to me.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

Gary Neville can stfu but otm.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

THANK GOD

LOL MARKING AS BAD AS OURS WERE

FEEL LIKE THIS IS AN ALL CAPS DAY, ITS HOT

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

cuntishly soft goal, incredibly cuntishly soft stupid goal

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

vdv not doing a tap defensively on the right

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg864/scaled.php?tn=0&server=864&filename=cdve.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

Number None, Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

lol good to know that ade still is offside 12x a game.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

not enough pressure anywhere on the pitch from spurs, sandro to come on; should help

mizzell, Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

not there, poor miss

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

we need to replace theo, he's just not getting in the game.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

loll even the innocuous sagna isn't innocuous enough to avoid a load of abuse from some angry mong as he being injured

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

lolmunia?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

loooool

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

cunted that ball!

mizzell, Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

Was going to say though, is Modric unfit? He's miscontrolling, misplacing a lot more than usual.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

fucked.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

his standard was set so high last year, when he misplays two balls he seems to be off
xp

mizzell, Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

ffs that defending

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

From Nick the Gooner in Watford, via text: "Szczesny Hawks: He is the one and only. Play and commands his box like a young Peter Schmeichel. Finally we have replaced Seaman."

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

djourohno

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

I hate the sound of Gary Neville's voice, it's like there's a crossed wire with one of those funny old northern men off Last of the Summer Wine.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

Axel Rose!

James Mitchell, Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

"When he opens his legs like that, it's a fantastic sight."

James Mitchell, Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

I usually think he's gash but Parker has lived up to the hype today. See also: Bale.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

Give a boy a chance and all, but Jenkinson looks terrible.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

wtf five mins

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

Give a boy a chance and all, but Jenkinson looks terrible.

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 2 October 2011 17:53 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah hes been rubbish every time he's played

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

corluka wtf

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

that was unconvincing from both teams

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

arteta has been shit as an arsenal player

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 2 October 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

14 Wolves 7 -4 7
15 Arsenal 7 -6 7
16 Sunderland 7 1 6

if people are calling for mick and bruce to be sacked

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 2 October 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

When, if ever, did the entire fucking world of punditry start thinking Tottenham had shifted the balance of power to become the Best Club in London?

James Mitchell, Sunday, 2 October 2011 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

avoiding more immediate questions, but i guess it was when we used the transfer window to improve and you sold everyone

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

Second Best Club in London

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 2 October 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

And I think Arsenal have a reasonable chance of overhauling Fulham and QPR before the season's out if they want that coveted Third.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 2 October 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

Dunno about unconvincing, apart from 10mins after the break, Spurs pretty much bosses that. Parker immense today, should have got MOTM. Bale also ace. Modders workrate was encouraging even if it wasn't his greatest game.

Matt DC, Sunday, 2 October 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

Alan Smith should just lay out all his medals on the table in front of them and ask Hoddle to put his four down as well.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 2 October 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that's gotta be worth a few points in the epl 2011

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

Has Hoddle been dressed by Alan Partridge?

Matt DC, Sunday, 2 October 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

Sagna has a broken fibula apparently

Number None, Sunday, 2 October 2011 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

spurs are in a very good position indeed considering the games we played.

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

schteve out

btw

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 2 October 2011 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

when did sczczesny get knighted?

second only to popcorn (or something), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

dion dublin, lee dixon and arsene wenger are all morons that cannot tell a chest from an arm.

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

C'mon dude, the photo i posted clearly shows he used his arm

Number None, Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

yeah you seem to be the only person who thinks that is his chest but whatever, we still deserved to lose

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

where? All angles show chest to me, shoulder at best

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

qpr defending wtf

Kinda h8 andy johnson tbh

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

no need for a tbh, we are all thinking the same

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

quickest player in epl before his injury iirc, but a shameless diving ugly mini-becks

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

I actually didn't think it was a handball even after seeing a few replays but then the picture convinced me it was. Obviously it was a very difficult call for the officials to make though, so i don't think it was the crime of the century or anything. That honour goes to the Rodwell sending off

Number None, Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

always hated Johnson too

Number None, Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

zamora is the most inventive english player since...collymore?

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

dunno haven't shagged either of them

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

can you post pic pls

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

joe cole can do things with a golf ball you wouldn't believe

Number None, Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

inventive != cheap, ineffective tricks

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

but a shameless diving ugly mini-becks

just saying that to the gf who's a shameless beckham fancier. always thought he looks like his runty little brother but never seen it mentioned elsewhere.

second only to popcorn (or something), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

Did Sagna break a leg today?

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

fractured fibula. My flatmate also remarked on the Beckham Johnson resemblance when he was being interviewed

Number None, Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

jesus christ the ref in the stoke game is a disgrace, as are stoke

Can i copyright the phrase 'hollywood tackle' to describe how shawcross's ego is affecting his game?

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

johnson sounds like becks n all

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

fuckin hell officials in wolves game made a lot of really bad mistakes, all favouring one team. What d'you call that?

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 October 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago)

genuine lols @ suarez in the warm up there.

second only to popcorn (or something), Sunday, 2 October 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

i call it "being a bottom half team" btw

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 06:54 (thirteen years ago)

I saw 2nd half of the derby.

Arsenal looked very dangerous in their characteristic way for a spell. They looked like winning, then, for c.10 minutes.

But otherwise I cannot recall never seeing Tottenham so dominant in such a game save perhaps the 5-1 in the league cup 2008.

For the last 20 minutes we were making and wasting chances for fun. I have never seen a NL derby like it.

the pinefox, Monday, 3 October 2011 07:22 (thirteen years ago)

i only caught the second half, and while we created many openings we didn't test the goalkeeper but once or twice and gave them far too much space to attack us.

That said i don't think friedel was taxed either, so my nerves were probably a result of long term spurs fan pessimism more than anything else.

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Monday, 3 October 2011 08:05 (thirteen years ago)

I was absolutely terrified from about 80mins on.

Parker has been an amazing signing, our midfield is so much more commanding with him in it. He and Sandro together could be pretty difficult to get through.

Also Kaboul is... competent now?

Matt DC, Monday, 3 October 2011 08:37 (thirteen years ago)

I saw the 2nd half too and thought the defences were pretty woeful 'til Sandro was brought on, and there wasn't much in it in terms of attacking 'til that point - except that it was only Spurs able to turn that into proper chances, and only Spurs had another gear to step up to.

Arsenal are really in a bit of bother though. I can't see how they're going to improve massively, except by Ouilszer's return and maybe Ramsey making a step up, and there's too much wrong for the January window to cure. They could easily lose all ten games against the big five imo, and if you're counting on them grinding out results against the rest to salvage the season that's got to be a stretch too, not to mention the away form.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 3 October 2011 08:38 (thirteen years ago)

kaboul, bassong perfectly good central defenders when partnered by king, with gallas a little less so and with dawson a lot less so.

Parker and sandro together leaves modric/vdv/thudd where?

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Monday, 3 October 2011 08:53 (thirteen years ago)

weirdest thing from an arsenal point of view is how it wasnt really a scandal to anyone, anymore; the loss was expected and it duly came. and there's no point even saying anything about it until wenger's gone.

r|t|c, Monday, 3 October 2011 09:10 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs made swashbuckling breaks down the left, and into wide open spaces in the middle, time and again. Clear-cut chances came and went - players scuffing with just the keeper to beat.

I have never seen this against Arsenal before.

Wenger may be right about a handball or something but he should probably also consider that his team have not looked so beatable in a league match in WHL ... ever. Not in all the years that I have watched his teams roll us over.

the pinefox, Monday, 3 October 2011 09:12 (thirteen years ago)

this is probably the most competent spurs team in 50 years tbf.

r|t|c, Monday, 3 October 2011 09:14 (thirteen years ago)

Swashbuckling! Bale has had a fairly subdued start to the season but has looked very dangerous for the last couple of games.

Depends on who we're playing obviously, 4-2-3-1 in tougher games away from home maybe. Don't think Thudd will get back in the team, maybe doesn't deserve to. Ditto Lennon.

I remember when we hadn't beaten Arsenal since 1994 or therabouts. Since that 3-0 whipping two years ago we've beaten them three times in the league and drawn once. Good times.

Matt DC, Monday, 3 October 2011 09:15 (thirteen years ago)

Parker is indeed a great signing who also seems to have become

a) better
b) tidier, more modest and effective in his play
c) shorter

since earlier years of his career.

the pinefox, Monday, 3 October 2011 09:21 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i was thinking parker looked smaller! i thought maybe players shorts had generally gotten bigger.

trying to think of some worse arsenal sides than the current shower. 1994 was the last rubbish team i can recall and i still reckon they'd grind out a 2-0. before that i'm not really qualified to judge though.

r|t|c, Monday, 3 October 2011 09:23 (thirteen years ago)

parker is down as a sixfooter?

Exceptional balance and athleticism, what a thorax this boy has

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Monday, 3 October 2011 09:27 (thirteen years ago)

That 1994 Arsenal team was shocking. Chris Kiwomya. Glenn Helder. They genuinely looked like they might go down at one point.

Matt DC, Monday, 3 October 2011 09:28 (thirteen years ago)

he came from arsenal, he cost the r's fuck all, kiwomyaaa

r|t|c, Monday, 3 October 2011 09:34 (thirteen years ago)

Adel Taarabt stormed off after being substituted at half-time as QPR crashed 6-0 at Fulham – then caught the bus home.

Fans were stunned to see the temperamental forward, still dressed in a club tracksuit, waiting at a bus stop near the ground before the game had even finished. He had been replaced by DJ Campbell.

r|t|c, Monday, 3 October 2011 10:04 (thirteen years ago)

a lie, but a funny one

r|t|c, Monday, 3 October 2011 10:05 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea's second and fifth goals were fucking gorgeous.

That Lampard, he's so past it.

Spurs top four this year? Arsenal top half?

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Monday, 3 October 2011 10:14 (thirteen years ago)

lampard's never been touted as 'past it' by anyone that matters, pete. He'll play til he's 35 and still score goals. England and chelsea both correct to be looking at long term replacements though

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Monday, 3 October 2011 10:21 (thirteen years ago)

'I dunno. Malouda and Kalou are pretty crap and Drogba and Lampard are past it.

― Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 19:22 (1 week ago) Bookmark'

'lampard's never been touted as 'past it' by anyone that matters, pete.

― holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Monday, 3 October 2011 10:21 (54 seconds ago) Bookmark'

FITE FITE FITE!

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Monday, 3 October 2011 10:23 (thirteen years ago)

Ha ha. Obviously i was being a tad hyperbolic, but i wouldn't read too much into his hat-trick either.

Number None, Monday, 3 October 2011 10:41 (thirteen years ago)

lol

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Monday, 3 October 2011 10:44 (thirteen years ago)

Looking forward to Gary Cahill (18 goals conceded in six matches) sorting out Arsenal's defensive frailties.

Matt DC, Monday, 3 October 2011 10:46 (thirteen years ago)

Strong bench again Sunday, and with no Alex, Kalou, Torres or McEachran.

Does make me wonder who was responsible for our abysmal dealings last summer and the over-promotion of young players who clearly weren't as good as we were led to believe. The fact Arnesen left at the same time as Ancelotti could give us the answer.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Monday, 3 October 2011 10:48 (thirteen years ago)

Cahill isn't great is he? If he was, United would have had him by now.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Monday, 3 October 2011 10:48 (thirteen years ago)

not a very fair point. throw peak beckenbauer into that bolton unit instead and he wouldn't do much good, never mind the goalie throwing it into his own net twice.

Cahill is on another level to djourou, who is the least mentally suited central defender since anthony gardner. You know how maldini or mcgrath could play into their sixties because their awareness, tactical ability, intelligence, courage and movement made up for any deficiencies in pace? Djourou is the opposite of that.

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Monday, 3 October 2011 10:51 (thirteen years ago)

i know you don't like djourou and all, but jesus. you were even making comments about him during yesterdays game, when he wasn't even involved, as if he was the root of us losing.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 3 October 2011 12:20 (thirteen years ago)

That Wilkinson 'challenge' yesterday was deserving of a red. Also wtf at Jonathon Pierce claiming that Bolton's defending was worthy of One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest?? What does that even mean?? Calling them mental patients seems a bit out of order, tho maybe the keeper was hearing voices or summit.

pandemic, Monday, 3 October 2011 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

ha wait who was the other arsenal cb yesterday then?

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Monday, 3 October 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

alex song?

pandemic, Monday, 3 October 2011 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

my bad! i was in and out to the bar at a christening tbh.

Djourou is pure shite tho

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Monday, 3 October 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

djourou is about the same level as koscielny and mertesacker, tho with different faults

arsenal linked with vertonghen today

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 3 October 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

bit young for management

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Monday, 3 October 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

Thought Song was pretty good vs Adebayor actually.

boxall, Monday, 3 October 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

RIP Niall Quinn.

James Mitchell, Monday, 3 October 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

bury me in my disco pants, ma

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Monday, 3 October 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

First step towards beatification

Number None, Monday, 3 October 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

cover story is he's not leaving, why lie?

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

Ancelotti also took the opportunity to tout himself for future roles at "top clubs" including Tottenham, Liverpool and Arsenal.

'I have a strong will to remain in England,' he added. 'For a coach, this is the ideal country.

'But I would only consider (coaching) top clubs, including Tottenham and Liverpool.

'It's evident that (Arsenal manager Arsene) Wenger's bench is wobbling and that in several months' time, an English coach will be appointed to replace (England manager Fabio) Capello in the national team, which will free up a place in a club.'

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 3 October 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago)

yes

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Monday, 3 October 2011 23:52 (thirteen years ago)

JP said cuckoo's nest because he wanted to say
where Eagles dare
re Chris Eagles
because cuckoo and eagle are both birds
that's all

the pinefox, Monday, 3 October 2011 23:54 (thirteen years ago)

I'd fucking love him to replace Arsene. Tomorrow.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 00:10 (thirteen years ago)

JP?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 08:30 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLQL3dQjqmw

r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 08:45 (thirteen years ago)

Pub landlady wins case on using foreign TV feeds

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 09:14 (thirteen years ago)

Does this mean sky aren't gonna keep shutting my streams down now? If so, good work Euro-guys!

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 09:25 (thirteen years ago)

Promises a few laughs - http://www.falive.tv

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 09:40 (thirteen years ago)

ffs no footy this weekend again cos of shitty shitty england

Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 10:43 (thirteen years ago)

and shitty shitty ireland tbf

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

we each have our cross to bear

Number None, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 10:50 (thirteen years ago)

if they just played round this bullshit i don't think it'd have much of an effect on the quality of the international teams or the domestic leagues

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 10:54 (thirteen years ago)

Fucking qualification football, I hate it so much. Play a qualification tournament in December or something and be done with it ffs.

Maybe we can talk about this instead? Fined £500 for missing a penalty! Fulham fury after Jol raps rookie Kasami

Jol raps rookie Kasami!

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

Oi! Take it to the Improve a tournament with a few simple innovations thread.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 11:12 (thirteen years ago)

:-)

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 11:13 (thirteen years ago)

Rodwell's red card has been rescinded btw

Number None, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 11:35 (thirteen years ago)

They giving them to Fellaini and Hibbert instead?

Chris, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

I wouldn't complain if i were a Liverpool fan

Number None, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

bad call. Encouraging leaving the ground at that speed heading for an opponent? Not good imo.

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, just as releasing Foxy Knoxy is encouraging fucked up stabby sex games.

parasitical brain-weevil (onimo), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

exactly

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 11:59 (thirteen years ago)

kinda feel we're seeing the opening stages of darragh's descent into conspiracy nut lunacy here.

known for melding an outrageous stage presence with tenacious hooks (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

'opening stages'

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:22 (thirteen years ago)

I'm with Darragh. So you're allowed to leave the ground with your studs showing as long as the other player either decides not to challenge for the ball for fear of having the other player's studs planted in his ankle, or doesn't go into the challenge at exactly the same time as the other player.

Chris, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

Lots of 'other player' there.

Chris, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

Just sat rewinding it and replaying it on SSN. The more I see it the more I can't believe how many people are saying that it wasn't a red. The "he won the ball" thing's pissing me off too.

Chris, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

But then Wilkinson only got a yellow for wrapping his legs around Nathan Dyer so why the fuck should I be surprised.

Chris, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

Of course it bloody matters that he won the ball. That is the aim of a good tackle.

Number None, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

not in terms of endangering another player it doesn't.

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

won the ball's got nothing to do with the dangerousness of the tackle, it's true, and there probably is still an unsafe level of aggression tolerated in the EPL on the grounds of "he took the ball"

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

whether you win the ball or not is irrelevant. we've done this before. it's kind of amazing that commentators and players are so ignorant about it. like i think most of them have an instinctive feeling for what is fair and what is not, but when you ask them to explain it, they prove that they know literally nothing about the rules of the game they've based their career on.

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

lol xxp

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

who was it who pointed this out as a pundit last year? sounness or someone? i wanted to give him an obe.

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

sounness? oh the ironing

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygVgxYa3mlo&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLF5F486C9743BE63D

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

winning the ball is not "irrelevant" when you execute a clean tackle and catch someone with your trailing leg. That's impossible to legislate for. You may as well outlaw all sliding tackles.

Number None, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

http://indobux.biz/gifs/Rodwell.gif

Number None, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

i would take his obe off him for that tackle tbf.

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

xxp, what is a "clean tackle"?

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

also that animated gif is absolutely a foul, sorry.

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

Souness definitely had the ball in his

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

yeah souness touched the ball immediately after breaking that guys leg, so fair play

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

Watched that 30 times, still no red tbh. Also Suarez is a diving cunt more every time I see it.

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

You may as well outlaw all sliding tackles.

Indeed. Might happen one day.

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

lol at the commentator thinking that was just a booking. he nearly amputated the guy.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

a player isn't responsible for his own trailing leg when he leaves the ground in a tackle?

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

also that animated gif is absolutely a foul, sorry.

― caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 16:01 (1 minute ago) Bookmark

I don't think this is disputed? It's whether or not it's a straight red

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

that tackle is pretty much the perfect example of why whether you touch the ball before/after/not at all doesn't matter.

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

The leg that gets the ball is nowhere near Suarez. That is the point. "Oh, but he could injured him" No, because he timed it correctly.

Number None, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez's "dive" mitigated by the fact that the gif is in slow motion, surely?

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

probably not a red, looks like he was trying to stop the slide. doesn't seem malicious/violent, and suarez made a meal of it. absolutely no problem with it being a yellow though.

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

I thank god for qualification week so we can debate this tbh

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

probably not a red, looks like he was trying to stop the slide. doesn't seem malicious/violent, and suarez made a meal of it. absolutely no problem with it being a yellow though.

― caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 16:04 (35 seconds ago) Bookmark

otm

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

a player isn't responsible for his own trailing leg when he leaves the ground in a tackle?

Uhhhhhhh, what are you supposed to do with your trailing leg? Kinda hard to control is it not?

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

as long as we all agree that it doesn't matter whether/when he touched the ball or not, i think reasonable people can argue about whether that's a foul/yellow/red.

it's rare to get a red if you touch the ball because reds are usually given for violent conduct, and it's difficult to be sufficiently violent while also touching the ball. it's perfectly possible though. and whether you touch it doesn't matter.

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

where was the ref in relation to that tackle? can imagine it looking appalling from the right angle.

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

what's bemusing is that the FA (or UEFA or FIFA) don't appear to issue more clear cut public statements on how the laws are to be interpreted in these situations, instead of watching while pundits wank on and on about it

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

haven't seen a single premiership game this season btw. loving it.

how's the reffing been?

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

what are you supposed to do with your trailing leg?

Same thing you do with your leading leg, elbow, head, your arse. Take reasonable care that it doesn't connect with an opponent in a manner likely to cause injury.

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

xp

fucking terrible as per

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

pretty sure it was lee dixon who demonstrated he knew the rules last season. it was beautiful. i gave him an obe.

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

dope xp. makes for great telly. and by great i mean sub-comment-is-free.

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

read that as "i gave him an oboe"

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

reffing's been strict and good re tackles, pretty poor for wolves

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

not because of the strictness re: tackles

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

It's always Lee Dixon. 100% of incisive analysis over the past half-decade has been him.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

keown and dixon are rte level pundits

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

Still don't see anything wrong with the rodwell tackle. Same kind of incidental contact that happens when a player wins a header and in doing so his chest connects with the back of an opponent afterwards. Oh but the player has left the ground to head the ball so should be sent off.

pandemic, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

i will say time and again that it's stupid blaming referees for things they see once, at full speed, rather than from 30 slow mo angles. but what continues to grate is shocking inconsistency in the application of the laws, in giving cards out, and this monolithic refusal to apologise or explain in any circumstances ever, and little seeming effort to impose tighter standards from above.

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

consequences of going chest to chest with an opposition player vs sliding in with yr leg extended

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

seriously

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

that tackle seems far more likely to cause injury. would be a weird in air collision chest/back collision that ends up with a player breaking a bone.

xxp

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

What happens if Suarez reacts quicker and goes into the challenge at the same time as Rodwell?

Chris, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

_exactly_ the same time?

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

then it's whose name comes first in the alphabet

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

the pundits who were saying he got the ball first? were they also saying it wasn't a foul, or it wasn't a red?

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

Wasn't a foul, wasn't a red.

Chris, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

when was the last time there was a merseyside derby when someone wasn't sent off? seems to have happened every game for about 5 years now?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

Moyes said that, don't know what pundits said it (xp)

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

thank fuck this turned into a debate, it was 'lol dmac' the past few days and i was kinda almost shook tbh

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

Rodwell's red made it 14 red cards in the last 11 .

Chris, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

The rulebook says it's a sending-off if the player uses "excessive force", can anyone really argue that Rodwell did in this case? It says this about a reckless and careless challenges.

“Careless” means that the player has shown a lack of attention or
consideration when making a challenge or that he acted without precaution.
• No further disciplinary sanction is needed if a foul is judged to be careless

“Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the
danger to, or consequences for, his opponent.
• A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned

Number None, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

xxp yeah sorry, spent the weekend at oktoberfest. you know i got your back on reffing decisions.

p.s. nv otm re: structural problems with the way reffing is managed/defended/assessed.

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

if you don't have a side-on (and ideally slow motion) view, i can _easily_ imagine that tackle looking not just excessive but sociopathic.

the idea that it's not a yellow seems ludicrous to me.

the idea that it's not even a foul is just smdh.

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

And getting the ball does matter. Yes, you can be sent off while still getting the ball, but whether you get the ball is a factor in how reckless or careless the challenge is

Number None, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

was it in the box btw?

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

see i can't imagine that tackle looking anything like excessive from any angle tbh.

pandemic, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

like i say, most red cards for tackles come under violent conduct

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

in which case, if the ref is right and it is violent, the location of the ball is irrelevant.

true, the fact that you get the ball, especially if you get it first, is _consistent_ with the tackle being fair. it's far from sufficient though.

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

ref was kind of behind it iirc? And to the right side of rodwell? Maybe close enough that rodwell passed him in the air tbh

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

Caek - this gives you more of a sense of where and how it happened than that gif:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfQexiD0AoE&feature=related

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

Also Suarez is a diving cunt more every time I see it.

― Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 15:02 (29 minutes ago)

ikr? you can literally see his little cunty brain working out every calculation

r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

he is a panto-level cheat though so i still quite like him

r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

the only thing i'm certain about is that if you seriously don't think it's a foul then you don't understand the rules of football.

ref had a pretty good view. the more i watch it in non-ultra-slow-mo gif, the more i think that meets the criteria for a red. maybe not the criteria as they are consistently enforced in the premiership, but as they seek to do it elsewhere in the game, and as they should be enforced imo. "Serious foul play" is usu. shorthand for reckless + could have caused serious injury. good enough for me. it's borderline though tbf.

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

"criteria as they are consistently enforced" is obv the issue always and forever

r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i don't think it's a foul. Ref has retracted the red card, whether this means he doesn't think it's a foul or doesn't think it's a red i don't know.

pandemic, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

It means he got shook

Number None, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

xxp otm

retracted the red? can they even do that? thought it had to be formally appealed (via cricket owzat)?

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

oh actually the fa panel overturned it, don't know how much input the ref has in that tbh

pandemic, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

i assume the ref can not contest the decision.

caek, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

shook, badly shook imo. He's been 'got at'

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

i believe the referee is asked and can admit they think it was a mistake. Don't quote me on that though

Number None, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

was that tackle bad because it was faster than usual? or that it was at a funny angle?

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

It was so fast that Suarez wasn't there until it was all over. He only just had time to kick Rodwell's knee and fall over.

parasitical brain-weevil (onimo), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

That red card stat's wrong actually, took it from somewhere I presumed would be reliable. Just checked and it's 12 in the last 16. Carry on.

Chris, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

surely all that really matters is that, after the fiasco of saturday, darragh has been vindicated? (until next time)

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

rah

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

I know Suarez's rep is probably deserved but I think his awkward dive was a product of anticipating Rodwell's leading-leg lunge just in time to get out of its way. You can say that the leading leg was nowhere near the opponent, and that makes the tackle less dangerous, but I think all it shows is good self-preservation skills. Would it be Suarez's own fault if he'd left his leg in and had it broken?

boxall, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

He couldn't really "leave his leg in" if it wasn't there in the first place. Rodwell's first to it by miles, Suarez is so late he barely manages to get himself fouled. The only way he gets injured is if he thinks "I'm getting nowhere near that ball but I can maybe just about break my leg if I can get it into the path of those studs!"

Rodwell's lunge would imo have counted as reckless and dangerous if it was at anything other than a ball and the air surrounding it - as it is it's a bit of a showy bit of exuberance that was never going to hurt anyone.

That all said, Everton should still have been reduced to nine men - all this moaning about the red card changing the result conveniently overlooks some frankly shocking behaviour that went unpunished. Very nasty team when it isn't going well, and sometimes when it is.

parasitical brain-weevil (onimo), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno is it good enough to say 'after the guy's jumped headlong through the air legfirst, the other guy was a full five inches away from a legbreak! How can that be reckless?'

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

How far away does an opponent have to be in order for it to be acceptable for someone to maliciously tackle a football without endangering another player? No matter how many times I watch it I can't see Suarez in any danger whatsoever, except for maybe earning himself a boot in the baws for the theatrics.

parasitical brain-weevil (onimo), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it's bollocks. he was already stationary by the time suarez got there.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

that's not even remotely accurate!

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago)

if rodwell's intention was to go for suarez's leg then yeah you can say that

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 23:58 (thirteen years ago)

'intention' is not quite irrelevant, but there's a good reason that the wording used is 'reckless' and not 'clearly malicious'

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 05:53 (thirteen years ago)

oh i was just trying to work "not remotely accurate" into the retort somehow.

it would be harsh to judge that as being reckless though.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/kenjuggle3/nowherenear.jpg

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 06:41 (thirteen years ago)

apart from reckless disregard to suarez's ability to dive.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 06:43 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdX3FTKuSzw

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 07:46 (thirteen years ago)

As is explained in the excerpt from the rules i posted, "Reckless" behaviour only merits a yellow card.

Number None, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 08:50 (thirteen years ago)

this gives quite a balanced view (but then it's the us soccer federation so what do they know.

http://www.askasoccerreferee.com/?p=147

FIFA emphasized in the past the great danger in slide tackles from behind because, if this tackle is not done perfectly, the potential for injury is so much greater. Nowadays, if the referee decides that the foul while tackling from any direction–from the front, the side, or the rear–was done in such a way as to endanger the safety of the opponent, the proper action is to send the violator off the field with a red card.

How can tackles become illegal? Two of the most common ways are by making contact with the opponent first (before contacting the ball) and by striking the opponent with a raised upper leg before, during, or after contacting the ball with the lower leg. Referees must be vigilant and firm in assessing any tackle, because the likely point of contact is the lower legs of the opponent and this is a particularly vulnerable area.

The referee must judge each situation of a tackle from any direction individually, weighing the guidelines published by FIFA and the U. S. Soccer Federation, the positions of the players, the way the tackler uses his/her foot or feet, the “temperature” of the game, the age/skill of the players, and the attitude of the players. Only then can the referee make a sensible decision.

While one may (and should) sympathize with the injured player, soccer is a tough, competitive sport, and injuries can happen with no associated infringement of the Law. Players who act on the basis of the opposite presumption, abetted by like-minded spectators, do the sport no good.

For the sake of those who would punish any tackle, we ask that players and referees alike remember that it is not a foul if a sliding tackle is successful and the player whose ball was tackled away then falls over the tackler’s foot. It has to be in the opinion of the referee, but if the tackler accomplishes the objective of taking the ball safely and within the meaning of the Law, then it makes no difference if the player who was tackled then falls down. With a big “UNLESS”: if, in the referee’s opinion, the tackler has used excessive force, then the tackler should be sent off for serious foul play. Or, if the tackler makes the tackle and then lifts either the tackling foot or the other foot and trips the opponent, that is a foul. Simply because a player falls over the foot of the tackler is not a dangerous thing. It’s one of the breaks of the game.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:14 (thirteen years ago)

i should be furious at vdv's latest comments but really i'm more in <3 than ever

"i don't wish to play regularly on the wing, i don't enjoy tracking back. I was amazed to have been substituted in the last game i scored and put teammates through three times"

Paraphrased

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:15 (thirteen years ago)

For the sake of those who would punish any tackle, we ask that players and referees alike remember that it is not a foul if a sliding tackle is successful and the player whose ball was tackled away then falls over the tackler’s foot. It has to be in the opinion of the referee, but if the tackler accomplishes the objective of taking the ball safely and within the meaning of the Law, then it makes no difference if the player who was tackled then falls down.

^ not true, even with their "big unless".

caek, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:18 (thirteen years ago)

if the tackler accomplishes the objective of taking the ball safely and within the meaning of the Law, then it makes no difference if the player who was tackled then falls down

hold on how can this bit at least not be correct?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:20 (thirteen years ago)

Argh why did it have to be international week this week?!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:21 (thirteen years ago)

it misses out so many ifs/buts that the only way it could be true is if you interpret it as the tautology "if the tackle is fair then it is fair"

caek, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:23 (thirteen years ago)

it's just a muddleder way of saying 'I GOT THE BALL FUCK OFF REF I GOT THE BALL'

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:25 (thirteen years ago)

I think getting the ball and nothing else without recklessly endangering anyone counts as fair. Even if someone does kick your knee and fall over some time later.

parasitical brain-weevil (onimo), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:42 (thirteen years ago)

'and nothing else' before or after?

Rodwell hit suarez after, i dunno is that even in dispute onimo.

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:47 (thirteen years ago)

suarez was late on rodwell surely. i mean it wasn't so much a tackle as an interception.

pandemic, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:47 (thirteen years ago)

That Rooney, eh? Isn't he great/awful?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:50 (thirteen years ago)

lol

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:55 (thirteen years ago)

btw vdv controlled with his shoulder

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:56 (thirteen years ago)

Rodwell's knee makes contact with Suarez after the ball has gone and after he has landed - I think Suarez is so late to the party he can hardly he classed as fouled. At an absolute push I'd give him a free kick and tell him to stfu moaning and rolling around when he wasn't hurt. Then I'd bite him.

parasitical brain-weevil (onimo), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:56 (thirteen years ago)

i'd not disagree with a yellow, tbh, but i can see a red.

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:59 (thirteen years ago)

i should be furious at vdv's latest comments but really i'm more in <3 than ever

"i don't wish to play regularly on the wing, i don't enjoy tracking back. I was amazed to have been substituted in the last game i scored and put teammates through three times"

Paraphrased

― always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 11:15 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

tbh his comments were way more nuanced in Dutch than the English press is making them out to be now. But I already knew yesterday that that would happen.

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:28 (thirteen years ago)

darraghphrased

parasitical brain-weevil (onimo), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:30 (thirteen years ago)

heh

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago)

Rafael Van der Vaart is probably the only person in the world who was surprised to see Rafael Van Der Vaart subsituted after 60mins.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago)

wen dee datch dey shpeak in english it alwaysh sounds dee mower forshful yesssh

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:41 (thirteen years ago)

vdv otm about creating all those chances and scoring

Arry otm for subbing him when trying to shut out the game.

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:42 (thirteen years ago)

Le Bateau Ivre always otm

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:50 (thirteen years ago)

vdv is a long time in professional football, let's be honest

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:51 (thirteen years ago)

Also he's fat and can't run for more than an hour.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

well, hamstrings knacked != fat

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

Can someone point out to me how Suarez clearly being caught by Rodwell is a dive?

Chris, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

Rodwell's knee is already on the ground, Suarez puts his foot there, Rodwell's knee gently caresses the top of Suarez's foot, Suarez then does *that face* and throws himself up in the air before clutching somewhere that isn't sore and crumbing around in fake agony.

It's not a dive, it's still cheating to get an opponent punished.

parasitical brain-weevil (onimo), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

He also does that "taking a break from the agony to see the colour of the card" thing.

parasitical brain-weevil (onimo), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

crumbing around wtf am I on about "crumpling to the ground in fake agony" I think I meant.

parasitical brain-weevil (onimo), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

So it's the reaction, ok.

Jose Enrique's biceps are incredible aren't they.

Chris, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 12:04 (thirteen years ago)

Xposts, rafa out

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

reaction to being fouled, imo, is a grey area that doesn't quite get to 'diving'. 'making the most of contact' is still cheating, but then so is hitting a man with your knee in a two-footed leapung challenge, isn't it?

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

lea pung, that famous martial artist

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

as in, if i were trying to score past a professional gk under high pressure and somebody drags, nicks, pulls or breathes on me, fucking right i'm gonna give the ref a decision to make.

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 12:17 (thirteen years ago)

What do you guys think of Norwich so far?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

Manchester United star Tom Cleverley has accepted substantial undisclosed libel damages over a claim that he "badgered" a girl for sex.

The 22-year-old midfielder brought High Court proceedings against News Group Newspapers over a story in the Sun in August which left him "extremely upset and embarrassed", said his advocate, David Price QC.

He told Mr Justice Tugendhat in London that it alleged that the footballer had met a girl in a Blackpool nightclub and bombarded her with text messages offering her sex.

He was then alleged to have taken her to a B&B where he introduced her to his bodyguard and did a Google search on his name to demonstrate that he was a famous footballer. "Most seriously, the article then alleged that he repeatedly badgered her for sex despite her saying no."

Mr Price said the truth was that Cleverley had never met the girl involved and was at home with his girlfriend in Manchester at the time of the alleged incident.

"It transpires that, entirely unknown to the girl involved, an individual from Shipley, West Yorkshire, who resembles Mr Cleverley, was impersonating him, while another individual from the same town pretended to be his bodyguard.

"While these two individuals are from Mr Cleverley's local area, he does not know them and had no knowledge that they were practising such deception."

Number None, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

the fact too good to check

caek, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

See how The Sun would have reported that 4-2 Wembley win on our fab new educational website Hold Ye Front Page

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00943/Eadline-066-095-18__943980a.jpg

A play on a Basil Fawlty quote that hadn't been made yet.

parasitical brain-weevil (onimo), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

um that's the joke?

caek, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

Oh man, that thing is a gold mine

Number None, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00943/Giant-Leaps_p019_28_943699a.jpg

caek, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

Mr Justice Tugendhat

mizzell, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

omg harry potter didn't exist in 800.

caek, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

Stiliyan Petrov genuinely reckons that Gabriel Agbonlahor is as good as Cristiano Ronaldo: "People talk about Ronaldo but when you look at the assets of Gabby, you can put him in the same bracket."

mizzell, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

I havent seen much of Norwich but they were wasteful on Saturday and that's a bad sign.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

that's a ..... large ..... bracket. Think i saw one that size in harland and wolfe once, maybe

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

They were very solid at the back, and Morrison put himself about enough early on to give Evans and Jones a couple of scares, but they were really wasteful in front of goal.

Number None, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

any thoughts on Naughton? I still think he'll end up being a better right back than Walker for some reason.

mizzell, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

walker has been ok but hasn't blown my mind tbh. Shouldn't be keepin corluka out of the team or anything. Nice to have him even pressing for first team at this stage though.

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

walker makes sense in the team as long as lennon's not playing. good to have some width. he's been pretty solid. i feel like it's very dangerous, but i am very excited about the kids spurs have coming up.

mizzell, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

most impressed with livermore, tbh, but yeah there's at least signs of a couple of u-23 players like the kyles and townsend that could be good squad players until we sell them to wolves.

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

is bostock crap or just the latest redknapp vendetta case

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

he can't be on the europa league b squad because he has spent so much time on loan. scored a penalty in a friendly versus orient the other day, but i think he might be crap.

mizzell, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

still only 19, though

mizzell, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

he's kinda got no real position afaict, but i wouldn't be too quick to judge tbh, he's better than jenas, like

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

that's a pretty large bracket

Number None, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

has redknapp ever done shit for ver kids save for that brief period of shuffling juhmain and lamps w/ various slavic psychos at west ham back in the day

walker established his epl quality last season, bale was fucked around for ages til ekotto got injured

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

i had Bostock on loan in a FM game a couple of years ago, he was crap then

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

iirc there was a thread for hyperbolic quotes about villa players?

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

don't see how bale was fucked around, he lost his place cause he wasn't playing well and then earned it back with his performances. he wasn't quite a kid, but redknapp did a good job of slowly bringing sandro into the team.

mizzell, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

sandro had already played for brazil

bale was constrained by redknapps inane insistence upon making him into a lb

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

he always was a lb, did he ever play in midfield before redknapp put him there?

mizzell, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

Townsend looked very good indeed against Shamrock Rovers, but then that's against Shamrock Rovers. I wonder if he's ashamed at being called 'Andy Townsend'.

Norwich look alright actually, albeit in an escape-on-the-last-day-of-the-season way.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

norwich look down down down tbh

Redknapp doesn't look bothered about the youff at spurs tbh, if they don't get in through injuries in the squad they won't get in. If they prove themselves that way they've got a chance. Otherwise it's interminable loans.

Bale was always considered a left back, but tbf this was always blatant stupidity.

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

Bolton look down down down too. Blackburn even more downs. Who else? Swansea look like a team you're sad when they get relegated with two games left.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

swansea look like they'll be ok tbh.

Relegated this year look like:

Norwich
Blackburn
Utd (when rooney returns to form)

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan?

Chris, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

i don't think so, i feel the absence of rooney will stand to them throughout the season

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal to win the league
everton win fair play award

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

swansea look like they'll be ok tbh.

Relegated this year look like:

Norwich
Blackburn

Nah Swansea "actually play really good attacking football" which means "will get smashed a load of times and then go down", like Blackpool last year, like West Brom a few seasons back etc etc.

Norwich at least look like they can make things awkward for people, but yeah they may not be good enough at it to beat the drop. Wigan have to go down at some point.

I'm assuming Blackburn will sack Kean within the fortnight and it depends who they replace him with, but tbh when you're flying your relegation-threatened team to play a friendly in India in the middle of the season you deserve to go down.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

I had QPR down early doors to finish bottom, but they literally look like a whole new team now, the 6-0 notwithstanding.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea got thrashed by City and Chelsea when they tried to attack, lost to Arsenal on a freak goal, and have kept clean sheets in the other four matches. I think they'll stay up and could be closer to 10th than 20th if they find a goalscorer.

boxall, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

West Brom are looking like they could challenge for relegation, Sunderland clearly have issues, we'll be right there in the mix if McCarthy's still there come May.

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

qpr could come 7th or 17th, there's not really that much in it either way

same goes for everyone else

r|t|c, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

true tbh

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

Been keeping an eye on the West Brom message boards over the last few weeks to see what they think of Hodgson (obsessed? me?) and it's the exact same comments and complaints that we had with him last season. Should keep them up, what with his 36 years of experience, but wouldn't be surprised if his contract isn't renewed.

Chris, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

wonder if they're not all liverpool fans tbh

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

they're on to me

Chris, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

saying that though i will feel pretty scandalised if wigan don't go down this year

agree blackburn's next manager if decent and installed promptly could keep them up with ease, but that's two big ifs innit

r|t|c, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

there's a good strong pool of contenders for relegation tbh. Stoke arsenal everton villa and fulham should all be ok, take out the top four and liverpool and the rest are gonna be in there

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

newcastle look ok too

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

Martinez turning down Villa will look insane if Wigan do go down. Looks pretty strange already.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

You know who'd be ideal for Blackburn? Big Sam.

Fortunately, the stars appear to be aligning for Shearer's second crack at The Big Time.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

i wonder if 40 yr olds feel about bryan robson the way 30 yr olds will end up feeling about keane, shearer

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

Robson was always over-rated shit, guess Shearer wasn't over-rated while he was playing

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

You wash your mouth out, sonny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65YkNk8jyyQ

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

That's the game I think where there's a pitch invasion at the end and Robson gets mobbed by a load of scallies (or whatever the mancunian equivalent is), and it's an astonishing moment of cognitive dissonance because he's the same size as them. You get used to seeing the likes of Drogba towering over mere mortals; Robson became a colossus just by doing amazing things.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

that doesn't make a whole lot of sense

Number None, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:31 (thirteen years ago)

Robson was terrible for England, a workmanlike nothing who apparently got capped for running around a lot, and dragged that England team into the same workmanlike tedium as him, a non-triumph of effort under ability.

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 October 2011 06:30 (thirteen years ago)

ever thus tbf

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 06:38 (thirteen years ago)

RIP Glenn Hoddle.

Matt DC, Thursday, 6 October 2011 08:54 (thirteen years ago)

Hoddle kinda marginalized for a lot of his England career so they could fit more Robson-esque carthorses in

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 October 2011 08:57 (thirteen years ago)

still, lesson well learned in time for le-tiss

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 08:59 (thirteen years ago)

Nyaaaaaa.....England, Schmengland.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 6 October 2011 09:41 (thirteen years ago)

well, in time for scholes at least

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 09:45 (thirteen years ago)

well, ok, surely with thudd.....

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 09:48 (thirteen years ago)

I'm assuming Blackburn will sack Kean within the fortnight and it depends who they replace him with

It'd have to be a Scotsman, to keep up the quota.

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 October 2011 09:50 (thirteen years ago)

forgot Robson's glorious Man U career during the 80s that saw them 4 times division 1 winners and a couple of European Cup wins too.

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:46 (thirteen years ago)

or maybe he just scored a goal once

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

RIP Wayne Rooney's dad.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 6 October 2011 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

Quite, and don't forget about Wayne's uncle Ritchie RIP

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 6 October 2011 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

vdv. what do we think? genuine world class talent who's been unlucky with injuries/coaches or genuine world-class talent who's a crocked bigmouth?

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

Is this still about what he said the tabloids wanted him to have said?

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 6 October 2011 12:04 (thirteen years ago)

Because he really didn't say a lot tbh

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 6 October 2011 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

can you translate?

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

Van der Vaart admitted he had "small irritations". "One prefers to play in the position where one's qualities come to light the most," the midfielder told Tuesday in Algemeen Dagblad. "And if you have to chase an upcoming back all the time, that isn't really good for one's own play." Complaining about this to Redknapp he hasn't done yet. "It was only the first time and besides I got a lot of freedom to move to the centre," acknowledges the ex Ajax player. "I do what the manager asks me to, and I assume this is not going to be the routine."

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 6 October 2011 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

(^^ translated for u boo)

and that lead UK headlines like:
"Rafael van der Vaart risks Harry wrath"
"Rafa blast at Spurs’ tactics"
"VDV questions Redknapp"
"Rafael van der Vaart put himself on a collision course with Redknapp"

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 6 October 2011 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

ah, but the question is- how good is redknapp's dutch?

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

He should have a schat with Schteve

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 6 October 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

Redknapp told the Sun: "Rafa is a terrific footballer. He has great skill. But if you're in the team and asked to do a job, really, you should just do it.

"It does seem to be a problem. Rafa can't run back and chase the full-back. Against the better teams it is a problem. His best position is in the middle, playing just behind the front man. The only problem is that Jermain Defoe plays there too and Jermain is playing very, very well at the moment.

"So, I guess I have got a decision to make, haven't I? I suppose it's now between Rafa and Jermain over who plays in the team."

O RLY?

mizzell, Thursday, 6 October 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

Had never considered that vdv and defoe play the same position tbh

pandemic, Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

with adebayor, they kind of do though.

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

arry otm in his response, tho. flippant but what else do you say to someone who says 'i don't like tracking back'

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

I see this thread has reverted to being a Tottenham Hotspurs thread

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

is it ever not a spurs thread tbh?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

when we're not in the epl i guess????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

so what do you guys think about newcastle?

got rid of barton
ba is p much the best striker not named aguero
coloccini and jonas have long stopped being crap

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

think that not posting the recent 'rodwellgate' into the clusterfuck thread was an opportunity missed btw

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

Even Pardew can't seem to scupper them

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

(xp)

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

cabaye and tiote is a v good midfield pairing. pardew manager of the yar so far. still think they're liable to go on a 6 match losing streak at some point tho

pandemic, Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

newcastle fans complaining about not having a striker after they'd signed ba had me smdh

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

in 6 mths they've lost their best 4 players? nolan, carroll, enrique, barton. p amazing really. Is the guy who broke his leg last season back yet? er... ben arfa?

pandemic, Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

Ben Arfa is fit but i don't think he's first choice yet

Number None, Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

ba is p much the best striker not named aguero

wait really?

mizzell, Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

Ben Arfa played against Forest in the Carling Cup, came on against Blackburn, and was an unused sub at Wolves.

Chris, Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

ba is p much the best striker not named aguero

wait really?

― mizzell, Thursday, October 6, 2011 3:07 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

no, he forgot andy johnson

pandemic, Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

ba is p fuckin good, good epl standard anyway

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

a 'ticking time bomb' acc to Pulis iirc

boxall, Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

pulis feels that way about all strikers, hence standing orders for his midfielders to deliver the ball from a safe distance of min. 40 yards

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

Demba looks really good and prolific and all that but he's no Suarez or whatever. He and Best together could be great, still feel like Newcastle themselves could take a couple of big beatings and then implode for a while, but they'll be top half I reckon.

Alan Pardew is a fuckwit though. I remember after the first Newcastle game of the season he said he took Ba off because he wasn't getting a pass. Had he seriously not worked out how to get his players to pass to their expensive and prolific new striker by then? And then he left him on the bench for several games.

Matt DC, Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

maybe it was a veiled hint to the player to do more to get on the end of it?

I'm not sure that pardew is all that bad, tbph.

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

wonder if one or both of Sow and Cisse will move to England and how they compare to Ba (Sengal are stacked with 26 year old strikers)

mizzell, Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

ok yeah aguero > suarez > ba > rvp > dzeko > chicarito

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

Think Cisse is better than Ba tbh. I rate him v highly, perhaps too highly.

pandemic, Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

a lol lol

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

Moussa Sow impressed me v much the 3-4 times I saw Lille play last season, always much more than Gervinho, though their roles were different.

boxall, Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

forgot Robson's glorious Man U career during the 80s that saw them 4 times division 1 winners and a couple of European Cup wins too

Impeccable logic. By the same token I assume that (off the top of my head) Fabregas, Gerrard, Le Tissier and Shearer are/were a bag of shite, whereas David May is one of the all-time greats.

Robson's United career for the first half of the 80s largely consisted of him more or less single-handedly keeping the team in contention, then inevitably getting injured (again) and watching the team collapse without him (again).

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

makes you wonder how ppl will remember van persie

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

as the fourth best premier league striker of his era

Number None, Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

behind Drogba, Torres, one of Tevez/CRon/Rooney?

boxall, Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

as the man who brought the title to Man City?

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

not behind torres!

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

Alan Pardew is a fuckwit though. I remember after the first Newcastle game of the season he said he took Ba off because he wasn't getting a pass. Had he seriously not worked out how to get his players to pass to their expensive and prolific new striker by then? And then he left him on the bench for several games.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:29 (33 minutes ago) Bookmark

iirc fuckwit pardew was also blaming ba's form on ramadan even though a/ it finished like a month earlier and b/ it hadnt seemed to bother edin dzeko much

r|t|c, Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

i was referring to a hoy hoy's ranking above

Number None, Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

nor fukn rooney neither

He's behind drogba, alright. Injuries taken into account, though, he's sadly not near fourth.

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

lol rtc dzeko is white you merked urself

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

Robson's United career for the first half of the 80s largely consisted of him more or less single-handedly keeping the team in contention, then inevitably getting injured (again) and watching the team collapse without him (again).

ok fair point, i'll concede Robson was perhaps one of those players who is well short of international class but a talismanic figure for their club. like Gerrard, Lampard etc.

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

that was a 'on todays form' ranking and is why i didnt include drogs.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

And yet you didn't include the premier league's top scorer? Hmmmm

Number None, Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

on today's form it's adebayor, vdv, defoe, rvp

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

premierships top goalscorer is a plucky right back tho?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 6 October 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

so sick of the pro-rooney bias around here

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 October 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

lol

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

Describing his transfer on Deadline Day, he said: "It was very stressful. At 6pm, they said everything had broken down. Then, at 8.30pm, everything started again. But there wasn't time to have a medical. I went to the offices of the club (Everton) and from there I told Arsenal to trust me and that if some medical problem was found it would be my responsibility."

boxall, Thursday, 6 October 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

Such was the interest in the little Peruvian that his first appearance in a black and white shirt for Newcastle reserves resulted in the kick off being delayed to accommodate the large crowd, many of whom had been delayed after a lorry had shed its load blocking one of the major routes into the city. Solano justified the turnout with a goal.

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 7 October 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

While the most objectionable people at Chelsea used to be kept in the stands, with John Terry they broke onto the pitch. JT, the white man who had a fruity discussion with the black Ledley King during a sending off, he’s their icon. Their Cantona, the man with the intrinsic emotional bond between player and supporters. A humble man who considered a fitting tribute to Guus Hiddink to be, ‘he kept in touch with me – which shows the measure of the man,’ without irony. This is their icon, who abused his position as club and England captain – no apology yet. Mr Chelsea, who supposedly put the knife in Mourinho’s back. Like Chelsea overall, he carries the unearned air of knowledge and civility, only to out himself as charmless and self-regarding. There are two types of cunt in this world, everyone else, and those who are John Terry.
http://www.surrealfootball.com/2011/10/04/reasons-to-hate-chelsea/

James Mitchell, Monday, 10 October 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

That first line is entirely factually inaccurate given this is a club whose captain used to be DENNIS WISE.

Matt DC, Monday, 10 October 2011 12:22 (thirteen years ago)

That last sentence is gold. xp

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 10 October 2011 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

i want to write poetry again

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Monday, 10 October 2011 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

The last sentence is wonderful, yes.

Matt DC, Monday, 10 October 2011 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

time to revive the "john terry is a cunt" poetry thread?

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 10 October 2011 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

that's what i'm sayin

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Monday, 10 October 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

It feels like old news but still I can largely go along with that para.

the pinefox, Monday, 10 October 2011 23:51 (thirteen years ago)

That site loves Mourinho, so their judgment is questionable.

boxall, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

<3 mourinho

shite pele (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

http://goonersaur.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Paul-Merson.jpg

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 13 October 2011 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

glen johnson yet to weigh in on twitter disappointingly.

also lol at all the City players on the bench vs Bayern backing Mancini's version of events, and even more lols at Tevez demanding ab apology from Mancini.

pandemic, Thursday, 13 October 2011 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

That Surreal Football article is so challenging and unpredictable. Really brave, bold piece of writing. I mean, it's just so GODDAMN surreal!

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Thursday, 13 October 2011 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

what kept you?

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 October 2011 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

I'd drink too if I had to hang out with Phil Thompson and those on cunts every Saturday.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0pvMNWfBGE

James Mitchell, Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

LEGERND

nakhchivan, Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

New baby. Will probably grow up to be a right-wing JT-loving cunt who has to 'buy its own furniture', ffs.

Seriously, though, I'm clearly biased but this trying too hard with stale cliches that were tired eight years ago.

This was the giveaway for me:

'So it was such a surprise to hear ‘Let him die!’ directed at the Foreign Man.'

Dude is pretending to be old school, pre-Sky, proper fan not one of these Chelsea arrivistes (who are simultaneously vile newbies and Nazi neanderthals) but then is 'surprised' by a chant that has been sung at football matches since the 1970s.

Bet he was born in 1990 and learnt everything he knows about football culture from Red Issue and James Lawton. Whole thing screams new fan who is trying soooo hard to pretend he isn't. Bless.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

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nakhchivan, Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

Congrats, Pete. Do the right thing and steer 'it' towards Fulham though.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

Congratulations Pete!

JT still a cunt. You're mostly right about the other stuff.

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

yah congrats!

nakhchivan, Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

Levy has managed to keep the weekly wage ceiling at the club bolted down to around £70,000, with some players topping up their pay with performance-related bonuses. Even Emmanuel Adebayor, the on-loan Manchester City striker, has been accommodated into the structure. He might earn £170,000-a-week but City are contributing £100,000-a-week for the duration of his season-long deal. As an aside, this feels like one of the most graphic examples of City's financial might/extravagance.

nakhchivan, Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

pretty incred really

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

In a recent survey with some of the biggest names in the game, including Harry Redknapp, Roberto Mancini and David Moyes, the legendary heavyweight boxer Ali was a clear favourite when it came to deciding who they would most like to share a meal with.

The full list:

Harry Redknapp - Muhammad Ali, Vincent O’Brien, Bobby Moore
Paul Ince – Wife, John F Kennedy, Tiger Woods
Paul Lambert - Elvis Presley, George Bush, George Best
Roberto Di Matteo - Julius Caesar, Claudia Schiffer, Robert De Niro
Sam Allardyce - Nelson Mandela, Muhammad Ali, Sir Alex Ferguson
Sven Goran Eriksson - Nelson Mandela, Pope John Paul, Barack Obama
Chris Coleman - John F Kennedy, Elvis Presley, Jimi Hendrix
Tony Adams - Jesus, Sir Alf Ramsey, Scarlett Johansson
Simon Grayson - Geoffrey Boycott, Bono, Don Revie
Roberto Mancini - Paolo Mantovani, The Pope, Sheikh Mansour
Rafa Benitez - Julius Caesar, Al Pacino, Napoleon
David Moyes - Mother, Tommy Burns, Kylie Minogue
Gustavo Poyet - Fernando Morena, Michael Jordan, Wife
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Steve McClaren - Nelson Mandela, Barack Obama, Sir Alex Ferguson
Alex McLeish - Robert Di Niro, John Lennon, Muhammad Ali
Alan Pardew - Muhammad Ali, Barrack Obama, Spike Milligan
Peter Reid - Elvis Presley, Jesus Christ, Angelina Jolie
Chris Hughton - Martin Luther King, Muhammad Ali, Bill Shankly
Gianfranco Zola - Father, wife, Diego Maradona

nakhchivan, Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

rafa's are perfect

pandemic, Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

poll

rafa's are sooooo rafa.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

I mean, Napoleon. Straight trollin

pandemic, Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

lols from

David Moyes - Mother, Tommy Burns, Kylie Minogue

this cunt is the living end tho

Simon Grayson - Geoffrey Boycott, Bono, Don Revie

nakhchivan, Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

Neil Warnock just wants his peking duck served with duck sauce.

also, cheating really by naming 7 people altogether.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

6 people.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

No Jol ;_;

I Feel So Good I Can't Stand It! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

Father, wife, Diego Maradona beautiful

Mancini evidently can't get a meeting with the UAE during business hours.

boxall, Thursday, 13 October 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

i wd question Tony Adams and Peter Reid's decision to invite a noted hotty to dinner with Jesus, like the latter's not gonna cancel out any motivation for inviting the former.

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 October 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

Adams' should be submitted to the So Not Going To Happen thread.

Stevie T, Thursday, 13 October 2011 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

lol apparently neil warnock meant the queen, not queen.

apologies if this was obvious to everyone.

caek, Thursday, 13 October 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

I wasn't quite sure who he meant either tbh.

Chris, Thursday, 13 October 2011 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

If I was Paul Ince I'd think twice about taking my wife out with JFK.

Matt DC, Thursday, 13 October 2011 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough
Neil Warnock – Queen, Barbara Streisand, Brian Clough

Matt DC, Thursday, 13 October 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

yah his wife might get taken out too xp

nakhchivan, Thursday, 13 October 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

Anyone listing Siralex is such a sycophantic cunt. You've got every major historical figure to choose from and you pick someone you see at least twice a season anyway.

Matt DC, Thursday, 13 October 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't even notice Tiger Woods at Incey's table. What exactly is he expecting to happen I wonder?

Matt DC, Thursday, 13 October 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

xp Don't think Fat Sam's West Ham will draw Utd in both cups tbh.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 13 October 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

Ince having a "take my wife, please" evening.

An indie musical aside, disregard if you’re a square (onimo), Thursday, 13 October 2011 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

Fat Sam Quixote still trying to get Fergie's job after his nose explodes huh?

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

fat sam was boltons very own donk ixote

nakhchivan, Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

just when i was warming to Warnock he outs himself as some monarchist dick

did Sven mean Pope John Paul I? conspiracy fan or Fall fan?

shd we poll these? i think Moyes' is my favourite

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

Great idea - ILE poll imo, something for everyone in there

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

yes u should poll them

nakhchivan, Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

ok i'll get on it

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

Ince's is really quite frightening

What does one wear to a summery execution? Linen? (Michael White), Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

Not my kind of dinner party, that's for sure.

fields of salmon, Friday, 14 October 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00568/71_wife_384x180_568082a.jpg

I imagine JFK and Tiger could lighten the mood there.

An indie musical aside, disregard if you’re a square (onimo), Friday, 14 October 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

Giggsy cheering her up
http://www.fivestarsappeal.co.uk/images/gallery/main/ryan_claire_ince_max_and_paul_ince_the_belfry_09.jpg

An indie musical aside, disregard if you’re a square (onimo), Friday, 14 October 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

dinner with incey and his annoying throat clearing thing would drive me mad

pandemic, Friday, 14 October 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

The menu
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/kenjuggle3/food.gif

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Friday, 14 October 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

hahahha

pandemic, Friday, 14 October 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

excellent work

Ismael Klata, Friday, 14 October 2011 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

Hitler, pol pot, sir alex, Richard littlejohn, Satan, Nixon.

Fixed.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Friday, 14 October 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

Sir alex, Ian Huntley, Fred west.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Friday, 14 October 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

So yeah, we missed the weekend's results but we also missed Szczesny's awesome backdoor diss of Lee Cattermole:

"I thought it was a good save, but I wouldn't take too much credit; it was a poor finish really, because you're supposed to score from three yards out..."

William Bloody Swygart, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

McCarthy Out btw

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

szczesny downplayed his own glory for the sake of dissing cattermole? i admire that kind of dedication to being a dick.

known for melding an outrageous stage presence with tenacious hooks (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 20 October 2011 00:27 (thirteen years ago)

how is dissing cattermole being a dick?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 20 October 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago)

also, it was a wondermiss not a wondersave

shite pele (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 October 2011 01:00 (thirteen years ago)

i mean 'dick' in the most positive sense.

known for melding an outrageous stage presence with tenacious hooks (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 20 October 2011 01:09 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vKcSakdbzk

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

Better than Rooney's shin blast last season.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

Chicharito on Football Focus just now <3. Kompany seems like a chill dude also

Number None, Saturday, 22 October 2011 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't see it, but it's just occurred that Hernandez might be my favourite current player (unless Pippo's still going)

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 22 October 2011 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea are fucking beautiful.

Chris, Saturday, 22 October 2011 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

Wolves are shit tbf. But Swansea are just gorgeous.

Chris, Saturday, 22 October 2011 12:22 (thirteen years ago)

Some comeback that was from Wolves!

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 22 October 2011 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

Still, McCarthy out

Number None, Saturday, 22 October 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, I agree. In that case maybe it would've been better if they lost? Don't know how that works. Does this point save him yet again?

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 22 October 2011 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

Out of nothing. wtf was Mick thinking with those subs hey.

Chris, Saturday, 22 October 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

lol "I sense sarcasm in your voice"

Chris, Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

Don't tell me i'm missing a classic Mick interview

Number None, Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

It was a good'un.

Chris, Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

why tf have the bbc replaced the right hand side bar where you could easily look at scores with fucking 'tweets from around the grounds'? fuck that shit, if i wanted to read a bunch of mcnulty fans watching plymouth argyle i'd shoot myself in the face.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

Huh what the hell, you're right. It wasn't like that 10 minutes ago though. Glitch?

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

Q: Mick, how have you managed to take a point from that one?
A: We scored two goals in the second half, Andy.
Q: What changed it though? Was it your substitutions, was it a bit of luck?
A: No, the substitutions were hopeless - got that all wrong. We're just very fortunate I'm stood here, I'm a really lucky man here today.
Q: I sense sarcasm in your voice. Genuine question, what do you think changed the game?
A: Our two goals. (mumble mumble) You maybe do sense a hint of sarcasm - there might be a little bit there.

Chris, Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

I have just transcribed a Mick McCarthy interview.

Chris, Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

if i wanted to read a bunch of mcnulty fans watching plymouth argyle i'd shoot myself in the face

heh

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

The great man could do with a Boswell

Number None, Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

Scores and table are back on top

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

don't pretend mccarthy's just become a boring cunt all of a sudden now he's doing really badly again

nakhchivan, Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

@Stevo Shout out to the lads complaining who took down our banter, nobody can take away our passion for the lads COYPA

nakhchivan, Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

McCarthy is a lovely funny guy who shd be unemployed on Monday morning.

If the substitutions were that fucking brilliant why the fuck didn't you start Milijas and Guedioura you stupid bastard? If Hunt isn't good enough to displace anybody in that starting 11 then can I have your dealer's number?

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

Villa West Brom seems to be a bit of a war, Hutton's done some lucha-style low dropkick on Shane Long and not been booked. Daft penalty to Villa now.

MPx4A, Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

Wolves do comeback a lot, to his credit, but really the next step ought to be not going two-nil down all the time.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

i haven't got the strength right now to do another lengthy screed about why i needs to go, but fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck sack him now he's being taxed a mile beyond his limit

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

why i needs to go? wd have stayed in the pub and drunk myself to death tbh but y'know marriage is precarious enough

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

Chris Herd sent off apparently for letting Olsson yank his collar? Resultant penalty eight feet wide.

MPx4A, Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

mick - trapattoni

Discuss

Mick's nicer

Hutton's a cunt.

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

Mick is way nicer than Trap obv. I've always thought Michael Palin is a very nice man but I don't think he shd manage Wolves, tho he wd probly be an improvement on the status quo.

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 October 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

Herd actually sent off for some weird innocuous looking off-the-ball tangle of legs with Olsson, where neither player looked remotely bothered by what was going on

Looked like Hutton shoulda been sent off anyway, from the one viewing I had of his tackle, the unspeakable eejit

MPx4A, Saturday, 22 October 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

I've heard the contrary about Palin, actually - miserable, moaning sod irl, very grabby when it comes to freebies.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 22 October 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

yeah well u shd never meet your heroes isn't it?

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 October 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

Sorry, I feel bad now.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 22 October 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

gaddaffi- total bro

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

yeah and even he got the sack

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 October 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

haw i was abt to suggest palin is probably a wrongun before ik posted complete empirical proof

nakhchivan, Saturday, 22 October 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

lma preparing rambunctious defence of m gaddaffi as we speak imo

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

Weird game, Liverpool should be out of sight by now. Need a Stevie G winner to get my bet up (Stevie G goal, Liverpool win & more than 2.5 goals).

Commentator says 7 or Norwich's 11 have played non-league football.

building a binary of hope (onimo), Saturday, 22 October 2011 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

Has Lambert picked those guys up? He's doing some job there.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 22 October 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, almost all of them.

building a binary of hope (onimo), Saturday, 22 October 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez really is quite detestable

Number None, Saturday, 22 October 2011 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

Gah.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 22 October 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

suarezgonnasuarez.gif

cozen, Saturday, 22 October 2011 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

what did he do?

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 22 October 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

Nothing specific

Number None, Saturday, 22 October 2011 18:30 (thirteen years ago)

Yet another case of 100mph or fuck all.

Chris, Saturday, 22 October 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

suarez'd about the place, usual mouth open, arms wide, huffing puffing stuff

cozen, Saturday, 22 October 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

diverpool didnt catch the ref's eye tonite i see

r|t|c, Saturday, 22 October 2011 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs and Newcastle to battle it out for 4th then.

Chris, Saturday, 22 October 2011 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

i refuse to believe newcastle's luck will hold out until May

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 October 2011 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

we all know that arsenal will sneak in the back door and snatch the title off of the mutually capitulating united, city and chelsea.

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

nor will our ledley king

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

Where's Coates gone, btw?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

yeah still arsenal's to lose, tho not having jol in charge will help tbf

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

Shit, just saw a bit of Mick getting interviewed. Looked this close to punching the reporter

Number None, Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

Coates not injured as far as I know.

Chris, Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

yeah

who's yerman again? Richie foran?

He's good. Would do a job on bbc imo

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

how the fuck is that not red for hutton, sheer cuntishness from player and ref

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

foster is a moron too, if we're listing

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

wait

A penalty?

What

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

this is a nonsense bill

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:32 (thirteen years ago)

British ilxors can join in at half-ten.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

you guys should stream this

Number None, Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

should always watch the rte lads, keep up ffs

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

"Serious injury" for Long. Fuck

Number None, Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

hutton so help me you alco neanderthal fuck i will hunt you down

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

He seems fairly upbeat

Number None, Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

that is an appalling tackle, will we have a debate about this?

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

Yes that's the kind of horrible tackle that makes a mockery of that debate

Number None, Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

FUCK YOU TRAP

Number None, Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

trap

You're not just wrong about us.

You're also a mean and ignorant cunt.

Please fuck off.

Yrs

Dmac
Co-ordinator
Trap out campaign

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

I call Treasurer

Number None, Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

hooooly shit

NN

Can you get screencaps or rewind yr tv?

There was a bodybuilder getting fake tan rolled on to him in that ad for that baz idiot's new programme
Can you get a look?

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

Damn, switched to Attenborough on the other channell

Number None, Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

loool this highlander thing, so so awful

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

ok, i will have to get a screencap for the gifs & jpg thread, you'll see why

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

the rise of Baz feels like one of the harbingers of the apocalypse

Number None, Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:54 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno whose son or nephew he is, but it needs to stop now

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 19:58 (thirteen years ago)

hmm playing bottom of table crisis club blackburn tomorrow

Stick the fuckin house on them tbh

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

Dunno if this is just cos Bolton are The Worst, but Stephane Sessegnon looks like an exceedingly tidy player.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 22 October 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

Can't stand referees allowing free-kicks to be taken yards from where the incident occured as happened in the Bolton-Sunderland match.

Can the FA actually retrospectively ban Hutton for 3 matches?

Chris, Saturday, 22 October 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

oh Bolton ;_;

encarta it (Gukbe), Saturday, 22 October 2011 22:49 (thirteen years ago)

“I would take him if he were available for sure. If Manchester City want to let me have him on loan and subsidise it, I’ll take him tomorrow.

“Say what you like he’s a world-class player and the one criticism you can’t level at him is he doesn’t work his socks off when he plays.

“He’s a ­handful and I’m only ­interested what he does when he plays. World-class players are in very short supply.”

Not a fackin' etc etc.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 09:32 (thirteen years ago)

From Dan in London, via text: "Clearly those who think Evans is no good in defence are the same people that never rated the likes of O'Shea. These are superb utility players that are capable of putting in solid and reliable performances in varying positions. Quiet, unassuming guys that are never in the papers for the wrong reasons

!!!!!

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

Come on, that rape thing was YEARS ago.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 23 October 2011 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

ashley young learning from the furners

Sky commentator- smith i think- 'yeah you can see the contact there'- as young's outer aura gets smashed by milner

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

WHY
ALWAYS
ME?

cozen, Sunday, 23 October 2011 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

love ya mario

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

lol Mario, what a guy

oppet, Sunday, 23 October 2011 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

Can feel the balance of power shifting between these two historic old clubs. Yes, Stoke may well grab another victory at Arsenal.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

GERVINHO

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

what was mario booked for

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

evans is kinda shit isn't he? Shrinks from the ball

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

P Crouch definitely learning how to do shitty fouls at Stoke

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

Come on, that rape thing was YEARS ago.

― isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:44 (15 minutes ago)

'that rape thing' was by far the biggest story in evans' career

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

Mario booked for his shirt I believe.

Smalling and Jones both way better than Evans, who always looks like he's got a fuckup in him.

Matt DC, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

"removing" his shirt, presumably
xps

cozen, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

ya, i remember it well. Vs milan wasn't it?

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

Stoke's Whitehead wants to enter lore as the new Shawcross, judging by the reckless sliding tackles he keeps putting in on Arteta.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

just another combative stokie, nothing to see here

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

lol Crouch you cunt

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

lol Wenger's idea of set piece defending

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

jonawils Jonathan Wilson
What Balotelli shd do at HT is change into shirt saying 'Because I never learn', score again in 2nd half and be sent off for revealing it.

mizzell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

red card tackle there from anderson

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

Evans has improved this season, but he's still only approaching O'Shea/Brown level capabilities. But Utd have pretty much always managed to carry that type of passenger, so

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

pitch not great? Affecting barry's, milner's, rooney's wellbeck's first touches

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

red card tackle there from anderson

― stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:07 (2 minutes ago)

ya that was bad, pussyhole ref gave nothing right?

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

United's final ball is pretty ropey today.

Matt DC, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

fk tbf, no hutton

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

oof looked a peno

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

prob just another rooney dive tho right?

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

Why was Balotelli booked? He didn't take his short off did he, he only lifted it up?

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

shirt

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

That seems to have become the rule in the past couple of weeks. Paul Schaerner's picked up two bookings for it now.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

Surely that's just in England then, no?

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

Dunno tbh, I always thought the rule was 'shirt off' too.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

Is 'revealing a slogan' still a thing?

MPx4A, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

Chief football writer Phil McNulty at Old Trafford: "Manchester United had barely let Manchester City have the ball until that goal - and Mario Balotelli proved what they can do with it when they get it. Great "Why Always Me?" t-shirt as well. How sad that a humorous moment is rewarded with a yellow card. Hardly provocative."

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

Nult suggests it depends on the nature of the slogan?

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

Schaerner was booked for revealing the club crest though, which is nearly the same as the shirt he's lifting.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

It's always struck me as a bizarre rule anyway. I can't remember it ever being an issue until the last ten years or so - did they suddenly make the rule up then, or did nobody ever take their top off before?

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

ravanelli iirc

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

Ravanelli started the shirt creativity in the mid 90s as I recall it.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

Did Ravanelli used to get booked for it?

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

I think it's worth a bet that Balotelli will be dead before the age of 30. Not sure what the odds would be now though.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

No, because iirc the rule was only brought in in response to excessive shirt-removal at the 2003 Confederations Cup.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

FFS I think a booking will suffice, James

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

Evans *is* hopeless

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

What the fuck was he thinking?

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah that was hopeless

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

He was probably thinking 'this is Old Trafford'

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

Clearly those who think Evans is no good in defence are the same people that never rated the likes of O'Shea. These are superb utility players that are capable of putting in solid and reliable performances in varying positions.

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

no peno there, as anderson can do what he likes
Fa rule #3658.b

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

It was so blatant (xp - the Evans foul) that my brain was in denial for a moment: I thought the whistle must have already gone and the ref had spotted an earlier foul or something. I'd much rather have gone 2-0 down and kept 11 men than try and chase this game with 10.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

United usually get better when they go down to 10 men though, admittedly not against teams this good.

Matt DC, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

Would've been v 10 men too, seeing as it was Mario

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

who is this ashley young fella

cozen, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

I mean, it's not even as if it was a last ditch situation: he just couldn't be arsed to try to tackle him so just lazily pulled him down. At least it was outside the box, the only bit he got right.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

Are Utd playing three at the back now? My stream is basically a series of blocky photographs.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

rooney could do with a goal transplant

cozen, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

tbf to evans, they only need to fluke one in here to get a point, if he'd let mario through they'd need to fluke two

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

Have to anyway now

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

all about milner

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

do it, mario

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

\(^o^)/

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

Marry me, Mario

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

charlton, cantona, wes brown, clattenburg, do you hear me mark clattenburg?

Is that anderson's fourth booking?

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

aguero silva balotelli is just about my fav epl attack ever

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

Sky commentator: "an almost unprecedented situation as United find themselves two goals down against their local rivals with just half an hour to go..." - I can remember a 4-1 and a 3-1 just a few years ago

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

nbs ur taking the joshing well, tip of the cap imo

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

red card tackle from evra there

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

Spank.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

This could get embarrassing

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

utd can't afford a towel?

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

Keep going, none of this olé shit.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

SHAWCROSS SMASH VAN INJURY, no idea how Robin is still alive.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

srs tho, terrific goal

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

^^ yeah, wow

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

\(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

Ffs, anyone got a stream that isn't total shit?

Matt DC, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

fuck me, utd fans out at 70 mins

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

www.nutjob.eu

xp

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

SUCK IT

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

Van Persie's on fire, a good thing glass doesn't burn easily.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

I'm only just noticing the tiny collar on the City shirts, I like them a little bit less for that.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

u don't have to like city just a few of their players and this scoreline

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

We'll be down to nine men shortly

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

That goal has to be worth three, surely?

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

Nult: "This result - and the manner of it - has been like a bucket of ice cold water being thrown over the Stretford End..."

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

clattenburg just played advantage to the offending team, right?

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

what a goal

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

Nice to see the squad player Nasri on to gain experience.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

Meanwhile, fuck you Stoke.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

rooney been sent off yet?

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

srsly, fuck stoke

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

today we are all gooners

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

yah

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

h8 stoke h8 apologists for stoke

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

smdh @ anyone thinks kyle walker can be compared to micah richards.

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

They're bringing on Frimpong so he can have a closer look at Jermaine Pennant's career.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

VDV and RVP scoring to win the Dutch players poll on ILF

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

That looked stupid but was some decent preying imo.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

Ha!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

Gosh

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

It's like watching arsenal

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

This could get embarrassing

Phew. At least that didn't happen, eh?

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

LOL Fergie

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

gif of dea gea reaction svp

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

FFS Dzeko

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

fuck's sake

And this utd are a sight better than the last few years impo

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

xxxp Did he spontaneously combust?

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

De Gea asking for offside there?

Ahaha, was just bemoaning my fantasy league captain Silva's lack of measurable contribution

MPx4A, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

oh. my. actual. days.

cozen, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

You have tried to insert a duplicate message

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

is silva the best in the league?

I mean, i finally admitted at half time that he's better than modric, but

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

Just as well Utd held off collapse as long as they did

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, Silva's the best

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

Never mind a bucket of water this is like a punch in the bollocks from a tramp at Euston Station

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

lol

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

Hang on. Maybe this one isn't over just yet. Darren Fletcher exchanges passes with Javier Hernandez outside the area and curls a delightful shot into the top corner. Less than 10 minutes left for the 10 men to pull off what would be the comeback of all comebacks.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

Lolololololol.

Silva on current form is the best player in the league, yeah.

Matt DC, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

"The real story today is that they can't do it without Robin van Persie."

Fucking Tony Gale, what a shit cunt.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

jawdropping stuff literally

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

otm

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

+26 gd

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

x2

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

Just as well Utd held off collapse as long as they did

Yup, I think City would have carried on getting a goal a minute there.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

Oh shit, whoa

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

Let's hear Siralex talk his way out of that one, redfacedcunt

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

that was most funny

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

Anyway - could have been worse - Old Trafford's a difficult place to play - got to be happy with that

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

Ferg Out

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

jesus. if city don't win this i will get the train and run naked down deansgate.

second only to popcorn (or something), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

Any hilarious "Fergie out" threads on Redcafe yet?

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

Actually kind of dreading playing City this season. That was an incredible performance, barely let United have a shot, completely ran midfield and outstanding displays from Silva and Balotelli. It was pretty much perfect. And the confidence they take from it will carry them a long way. Plus they really do have the squad to maintain CL and PL challenges in spring.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

How good must Bayern be, I'm thinking?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

Better than Utd, we know that much for sure

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

Actually kind of dreading playing City this season. That was an incredible performance, barely let United have a shot, completely ran midfield and outstanding displays from Silva and Balotelli. It was pretty much perfect. And the confidence they take from it will carry them a long way. Plus they really do have the squad to maintain CL and PL challenges in spring.

Yeah, I think they've got to be firm favourites. The (pointless) Evans sending off is what turned it into a thrashing, but City would have won anyway today (albeit probably 1-0 or 2-0). For all the possession United had in the first half, they never looked remotely like scoring. And in the second half City were bossing it up to the sending off.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

That Silva pass for Milner for the second

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

silva pass to dzeko for the last

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

When was the last time United lost so heavily on the league?

Matt DC, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

At home, 1955

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

Away, I guess 5-0 Newcastle in 96 or thereabout

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

this is why getting thrashed by city didn't bother me tbh- we're not equipped to handle movement like they possess, we weren't all that bad that day, we just have dawson- utd weren't all that bad today, they just had evans until he got sent off.

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

Meanwhile Blackburn are causing us problems...

Matt DC, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

We lost 6-3 at Southampton the week after the 5-0 at Newcastle. We also lost 5-0 at Chelsea in the 99/00 season.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

Lost 5-0 to Chelsea in 99 as well, and didn't Southampton beat them 6-2 around that time?

x-post

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

thought clattenburg had an off day today as well, fergie won't be happy with how he was caught out for the red card

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

We lost 6-3 at Southampton the week after the 5-0 at Newcastle.

Saints defeat was a "blip" caused by grey jersey iirc. Toon game was the one rounded off with that great Philippe Albert chip wasn't it?

building a binary of hope (onimo), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

'blip' grey jersey result was in fact a 3-1 loss iirc

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

Saints defeat was a "blip" caused by grey jersey iirc

Nope, that's a myth that's sprung up. The grey jersey game was the season before, in the spring, just after United had pegged Newcastle back. 3-0 down at half-time, changed into blue-and-white, 'won' the second half 1-0.
(xp)

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

6-3 was ostenstadt and that le-tiss chip, right?

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

I thought they changed jerseys at half time against Southampton in the 6-3 game - maybe getting them mixed up. So long ago.

building a binary of hope (onimo), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

xposts obv

building a binary of hope (onimo), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

anyway, how's this for a way to polish off a humping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCNSS2o9Gyg

building a binary of hope (onimo), Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

FUCK. Had something of an epic night last night, ended up watching the rugby world cup final hammered and then lapsing into a coma. Was woken up by my flatmate minutes after the Evans sending off and then events rapidly spiralled out of control. Just been laughing manically for the last hour

Number None, Sunday, 23 October 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

It's just a dream. Go back to sleep. Watch MOTD2 tonight and it'll all be OK.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

Fucking Silva though. Too good.

Number None, Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

Could have been worse, could have been Liverpool.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

FUCK

Number None, Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

I'm going to keep posting that at intervals

Number None, Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

Anyone else hear Joe Hart at the end - "I was getting death threats all second half!"

Chris, Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

Could this be a permanent shift in the balance of power in west London?

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

SHITFUCK

Number None, Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

I know none of you care right now but VDV just scored a beautiful one.

Matt DC, Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

he dropped one in the euros according to gary lineker iirc

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

i'm away from all media, barely in phone coverage, so ta matt

Where would rooney rank in fwd options currently available to the top six?

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

Is that strictly necessary?

Number None, Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

Kaboul's having a shocker and his distribution is atrocious. Thank god for Friedel and Parker because our defence looks leaky as hell.

Matt DC, Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

CUNT

Number None, Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

it's fair musing imo

I'd have him ahead of defoe as impact sub for vdv

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

LACK OF MIDFIELD

Number None, Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

QPR emerge from the shadows of their more successful neighbours. Story of the day.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

Guy Mowbray,
BBC Match of the Day commentator
This is by far the worst day in Manchester United's Premier League history and by far Manchester City's best

uhm maybe a little overstated no

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

they could still end up delivering modules this season

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

theres a song for fat sam to sing while his fans are singing that other waste song

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

It does say 'Premier League history'. I doubt City have had anything since 1992 they'd rank higher.

Oh Drogba.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

wha happened?!

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

sure but the ynahtid assertion is typical bluster from mouthbreahe mowbray

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

1641: RED CARD Chelsea's Didier Drogba

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

Last 20mins or so of that Spurs game were terrifying, Blackburn flung pretty much everything at us. Made up for last week at least.

Matt DC, Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

steve's keen

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

putting a bet on 6-1 QPR

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

lol at the 2 qpr players kicking each other rather than the ball when straight through on goal. Classic comedy.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

putting bet on 5-1 QPR

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea look the better team

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

is that high-concept humour

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

no, he's right.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

(xp) Nope. QPR are making a hell of a meal of it considering the advantage they've got.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

drogba coming off would always improve the looks

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

no, i mean that's fine, but if it needs saying, kinda thing

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

that looked giveable

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

luiz fouling at will out there, nice to see terry get eyeballed, good english grit from smith

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

I thought you said
i'm away from all media

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

i'm back. one of the perks of rural life is that blair witch level communication options = five mins drive away

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

unless you lose the goddamn map

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

sympathising with utd and a cole in the same two hours, kinda weird

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

stick the fuckin head on it man

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

luiz entertains

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

oh shit nic

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

luiz looking good for a 90 min equalizer + second yellow for celebration

oppet, Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

what a miss

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

ah man luiz tho!

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

if england had even 1 fwd with that ability eh

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

haaaa that fan

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

putting bet on 1-0 QPR

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

chelsea are down to 9!!?

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

terry

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

love that kick from cech

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

race for 2nd heating up

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

I love having a game in hand at all times, I can convince myself that we're on a level footing with Chelsea really.

Someone hurry the fuck up and beat Newcastle though.

Matt DC, Sunday, 23 October 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

That 1-5 to City is looking a bit better now at least.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 23 October 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

if we wanted newcastle beaten we could have subbed bassong and walker last week

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

Just got home

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Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 October 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

Burglars?

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

Fireworks in the bathroom?

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 23 October 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

Bookings:
Mikel (50)
Lampard (52)
Ivanovic (58)
David Luiz (70)
Meireles (72)
Cole (76)
Terry (90)


Sent off:
Bosingwa (33)
Drogba (41)

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

Jamie Redknapp calling Bosingwa "Boss Winger"!

Chris, Sunday, 23 October 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

wrong on all three counts

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

which three?

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Sunday, 23 October 2011 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

Terry, Drogba, Cole?

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Sunday, 23 October 2011 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

Brilliant afternoon at Loftus Road. We were shit but Chelsea are cunts.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 23 October 2011 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

JESUSCHRIST

Number None, Sunday, 23 October 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago)

fucking silva-dzeko show bust my FF

fuck darren fletcher an all

cozen, Sunday, 23 October 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

'we may be shit but we're not cunts' would be an amazing banner to unfurl every time chelsea played away

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

can't believe I missed terry calling someone a 'black cunt'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=A5iZmMrDZvc

cozen, Sunday, 23 October 2011 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

just came here to post that!

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 23 October 2011 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

Supposedly he says (to Anton Ferdinand): “Anton you fuckiing, black cunt… fucking nobhead”

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 23 October 2011 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

i was gonna ref king earlier but tbh didn't need the heat from pete

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

Wow, the video shows the blubbering penalty-shanking glass-jawed racist cunt being a racist cunt.

I hope he dies in a fire. Can't be said enough times.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

yeah but come to the right thread and rhyme it

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKvlSmP0fjg

lol racists

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago)

Quite a few comments under the John Terry clip saying he said "Blind cunt" and that he was talking to the referee. I'm hardly his biggest fan, but that seems plausible to me.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

ya if that's what it needs to be you could claim that

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

I hate that innocuous pass-agg friendly slap thing players do sometimes, don't blame Kanoute for reacting on that ground alone.

boxall, Sunday, 23 October 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

I went to the apple store the other day. Was really hoping for a white iphone 4GS but they only had blind ones.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Sunday, 23 October 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

ps i can't view youtubes atm but i mean

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

If/when you can view it, you'll see what I mean. You can't see who he is talking to and the "Anton" bit isn't actually there (like the Zapruder tape, someone goes across the screen and obscures it) - it looks more like "Oi...(obscured)...you fucking blind cunt". I mean, I also find it completely believable that John Terry is a nasty racist, but I don't think this is cast iron evidence.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

john terry caught on camera calling a ref a blind cunt

will the fa run with that?

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

John Terry can't be the one who finally makes the word 'cunt' acceptable.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 23 October 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

he's something of a byword tbf

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

it's ok bbc have analysed the match and terry didn't do anything worth highlighting

Villas-Boas has ref issues- he's wrong

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

the only thing worth noting about terry is how shitty the other three defenders are, per hansen

When did hansen become fa propagandist? shitetalk

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

OOOOOH IT'S BEEN MENTIONED

Denial issued on terry's behalf, no footage no discussion

This show is for cunts

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

that ruiz chip is a gk error

Jol at fulham

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

sorry i was flippant about england's brave man united being cheated out of a match by a biased home-town politically correct blind referee playing too much injury time

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 October 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

vdv >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defoe

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/oct/23/john-terry-racist-remarks-anton-ferdinand

Fuck him, that denial is rubbish and makes it clear he wasn't talking to the ref.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 23 October 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

"I thought Anton was accusing me of using a racist slur against him. I responded aggressively, saying that I never used that term. I would never say such a thing and I'm saddened that people would think so.

hmmmn

nakhchivan, Sunday, 23 October 2011 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

i'm saddened that anybody thinks John Terry might be racist

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 October 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

robinson beatable from distance

Walker'll cost us goal all season, more than he'll contribute to

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

this guy bassong, he breaks my fuckin heart

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

you've got to love fulham. last week riise hit the post and then stoke went up the other end and scored. this week zamora missed an open goal and then everton score.

spellcheck is really advanced these days (cajunsunday), Sunday, 23 October 2011 22:43 (thirteen years ago)

it's a jol thing

stop muammar time (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 October 2011 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

didn't properly lol here yet, but seems kinda clear rio ferdinand is a total liability now, can't last 90 mins and has no pace.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 24 October 2011 00:48 (thirteen years ago)

didn't really think that any utd individual was to blame for any of city's goals tbh- maybe for dzeko's first the marking's not there but there was no real 'lol rio' moment i can pick out tbh

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Monday, 24 October 2011 00:50 (thirteen years ago)

dunno, they were dragged everywhere, admittedly by a good side. but eg for balotelli's second ferdinand is literally nowhere. they were repeatedly caught out in behind too, not just after 10 men stage either.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 24 October 2011 00:52 (thirteen years ago)

don't remember city gettin behind them too much before evans' moment

Evans, tho. Thank fuck he's 'one of them'

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Monday, 24 October 2011 00:55 (thirteen years ago)

first goal was same thing.

evans is dreadful tho.

what did you all think of de gea? he is v odd imo, like rolling a dice. he either saves fantastically or fucks up completely. he was partially at fault for at least two goals today.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 24 October 2011 01:10 (thirteen years ago)

last goal, yeah- which other?

I think he's easing into it, getting better. There's an element of hollywood saves maybe covering some basic errors, but overall he's p. good.

Tbh, i didn't expect that he'd have so much to do, this year's iteration are a lot more cavalier than has been the case for years now.

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Monday, 24 October 2011 01:17 (thirteen years ago)

there was that dodgy back pass from rio that resulted in a corner, if you're still after rio lols.

Chris, Monday, 24 October 2011 01:19 (thirteen years ago)

Was Phil Jones not fully fit?

Chris, Monday, 24 October 2011 01:20 (thirteen years ago)

dunno, took a knock against ye but did he play midweek?

What about lfc yesterday? Only saw highlights, suarez looked like he could create and miss chances all day, great save at the death tho

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Monday, 24 October 2011 01:23 (thirteen years ago)

We played some exciting, mouth-watering stuff in the first half, and the game should have been won. My main gripe, again, is that we failed to really control the game. Dalglish isn’t even setting the team up in such a way that will allow us to control the game, due to a severe lack of organised pressing, and a defensive line so deep that they may as well be sat in the stands. There’s no point in the midfield pressing if the defence isn’t going to back them up, otherwise you leave gaps all over the place – it’s a vicious cycle that affects the whole team. It happened yesterday – Norwich won the ball, exploited the space vacated by Gerrard and Adam, worked the ball wide, and scored. Gerrard and Adam leaving gaps could have been masked by us playing a DM in there (although the problems resulting from playing a deep defensive line would have still existed), or by our defence being more proactive, holding a higher line, compressing the play further up, and choosing the right team to drop deep.

Of course a lot of this could perhaps be remedied once and for all by rotating a certain CB. Yesterday was a fantastic opportunity to give Coates, Wilson, Kelly or even Wisdom a run out alongside Skrtel, who I thought was excellent again. Not saying it would have worked to perfection, but I’d rather experiment, see if we can defend higher and control games, and plan for the future at least once this season, rather than stubbornly persist with an ageing CB whose best days are behind him. Doesn’t look like that’s going to happen anytime soon, though.

So we can't keep a clean sheet. As a result, taking our chances and sealing the game in the first half is vital, because playing at such a high tempo for 90 minutes is practically impossible. In a way we shouldn’t even be surprised that we’re not controlling games against the likes of Wolves and Norwich, because before the game you could have predicted how things would pan out if we didn’t take our chances. Even when we were 3-0 up against Bolton and we had taken our chances, we still let them get back into the game. We're putting unncessary pressure on our forwards to convert their chances because they know we can't keep a clean sheet. We keep shooting ourselves in the foot by dropping deep, inviting pressure, and, eventually, conceding. It happened against Sunderland, Bolton, Brighton, Wolves, and Norwich.

And I miss Maxi.

Chris, Monday, 24 October 2011 01:57 (thirteen years ago)

Yes we beat Bolton, Brighton and Wolves, but the second half of Bolton was disappointing (bar the two goals, obviously), and Brighton and Wolves were far from convincing.

Chris, Monday, 24 October 2011 02:00 (thirteen years ago)

phew!

not sure you've got pace at cb to play a high line tbph

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Monday, 24 October 2011 06:10 (thirteen years ago)

Let's kick racism out of football.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42612000/jpg/_42612395_diaby_pa416.jpg

James Mitchell, Monday, 24 October 2011 07:27 (thirteen years ago)

Video footage is massively inconclusive, but the statement from Terry is just bizarre and so badly written.

I know everybody here will keep an open mind (especially James, with his cute but creepy Terry obsession - he doesn't seem quite as bothered about Cesc being labelled a racist strangely), but I do find it hard to believe any footballer would bellow 'black cunt' halfway across a football pitch without a single person around him reacting (Ashley Cole is standing next to him and doesn't even flinch).

If there's an official complaint from QPR, though, he's fucked.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Monday, 24 October 2011 08:22 (thirteen years ago)

As for the game, Chelsea massively underplayed how important it is for QPR given it's a nothing fixture for us, and the ref was a blind cunt but Luiz was almost as much a liability for us as Rio was for United, and Drogba was a fucking disgrace.

Second half performance was outstanding with nine men, and like the United defeat there are a lot of good things to come from it, but I'd rather have the three points, especially as everybody else will go to Loftus Road and absolutely batter them.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Monday, 24 October 2011 08:27 (thirteen years ago)

The Cesc thing is way worse if you ask me, what with him holding his hand over his mouth to stop the cameras seeing what he's saying, but John Terry is just a massive cunt, nothing cute or creepy about it.

Strangely, they both use the "some of my best friends" defence, too. Jus' a bit of banter from the Barking lad innit tho wot a legernd.

James Mitchell, Monday, 24 October 2011 08:30 (thirteen years ago)

Cunt or otherwise, your obsession with him is a bit unusual.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Monday, 24 October 2011 08:39 (thirteen years ago)

pete otm. he could be saying black or blind, hard to tell unless youre a lip reading specialist (im sure a newspaper will be on that soon enough). Basically it appears hes saying what you hope he's saying depending on who you support.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 24 October 2011 08:42 (thirteen years ago)

i'll settle for that :)

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Monday, 24 October 2011 09:01 (thirteen years ago)

it's the strange response by terry that makes it seem more he said black tbh.

of course if he says he called the ref a blind cunt he might get a ban for that. But im not sure he would be thinking like that.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 24 October 2011 09:04 (thirteen years ago)

still, though. terry calling somebody a cunt, eh?

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 24 October 2011 09:05 (thirteen years ago)

pot calling kettle blind?

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 24 October 2011 09:05 (thirteen years ago)

you know what they say, ken. "takes one to know one"

and we all agree here terry is a cunt :)

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 24 October 2011 09:06 (thirteen years ago)

as clear as blind and white if you ask me

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 24 October 2011 09:09 (thirteen years ago)

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/7852/1409138298066b4ccafa.jpg

James Mitchell, Monday, 24 October 2011 09:24 (thirteen years ago)

lol

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Monday, 24 October 2011 09:36 (thirteen years ago)

i'm saddened that anybody thinks John Terry might be racist

He hasn't got the hang of this yet, do as the politicians do: "I'm sorry if I have given the impression that I am a racist cunt."

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Monday, 24 October 2011 09:49 (thirteen years ago)

Luiz: what's he all about? I've seen him be woeful more often now than I've seen him be good (not very often of either, admittedly).

Ismael Klata, Monday, 24 October 2011 09:54 (thirteen years ago)

Terry statement reads to me like an admission he used the words "black cunt" but only in shouting "I did not call you a black cunt" or words to that effect.

building a binary of hope (onimo), Monday, 24 October 2011 10:01 (thirteen years ago)

his mazy runs and cultured touch make him a natural...... centre half?

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Monday, 24 October 2011 10:01 (thirteen years ago)

Terry statement reads to me like an admission he used the words "black cunt" but only in shouting "I did not call you a black cunt" or words to that effect.

He should use the same defence that Canadian professor did when he was accused of anti-Semitism, that he was merely 'providing examples of unacceptable and dangerous opinions'... on, uh, a football pitch

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Monday, 24 October 2011 10:08 (thirteen years ago)

Luiz strikes me as a midfielder who was told at schoolboy level he was to play in defence due to his height.

Just think, some scottish twat with his coaching badges from largs could be coaching in brazil ruining them forever.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 24 October 2011 10:14 (thirteen years ago)

Could be worse could be some English twat without his coaching badges from largs

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Monday, 24 October 2011 10:15 (thirteen years ago)

you heard it here first

http://i55.tinypic.com/t6wn48.jpg

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 24 October 2011 10:23 (thirteen years ago)

Phelan got the job btw.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 24 October 2011 10:24 (thirteen years ago)

Luiz is struggling to adapt to physical side of game, but an absolutely diamond coming forward with the ball. reads the game well, but far too prone to daftness. he could be amazing, but lots of coaching still needed. he would be a complete disaster in midfield given his lack of discipline.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Monday, 24 October 2011 10:43 (thirteen years ago)

not gonna write a weeknd song about it but i can't help but be somewhat - what's the word? - saddened to find myself supporting such a load of clueless gobshite loadsamoney cunts. completely inept performance. was being west ham or brum really the desolate price of the prem? could we not have been idk, norwich?

oh well, think i'll still take the win over the nonsense noble 9 man high ground. but yeah we are going down big time.

r|t|c, Monday, 24 October 2011 10:56 (thirteen years ago)

You'd have to finish below either Wigan, Blackburn or Bolton.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 24 October 2011 10:58 (thirteen years ago)

can't believe the ref's sent off bowswingwa for that

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Monday, 24 October 2011 11:00 (thirteen years ago)

of course if he says he called the ref a blind cunt he might get a ban for that. But im not sure he would be thinking like that.

Wonder if the FA is thinking of repeating the trick of banning Terry for 'violent conduct' instead of anything else? Like they did after he called Ledley King a 'mucky boy cunt' or whatever it was that sounds a bit like that.

James Mitchell, Monday, 24 October 2011 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

xxp i know full well that lot are shit but i wouldnt back us to beat any of them either. thing is, they're all shit to their limits whereas we're just a shambles. a (very) vaguely talented shambles. so now over the course of a season how does that level out? badly i feel.

r|t|c, Monday, 24 October 2011 11:03 (thirteen years ago)

now look it's been proven that terry never said nuffink to ledley king, who, it must be remembered, is a highly volatile individual with a long history of enraged confrontation of non-racists for absolutely no reason.

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Monday, 24 October 2011 11:07 (thirteen years ago)

Presumably 'not being allowed into nightclubs for being too shitfaced' counts as a reason in this book?

Matt DC, Monday, 24 October 2011 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

cmon, that's the best reason

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Monday, 24 October 2011 11:23 (thirteen years ago)

Did King IRONICALLY actually get charged with racism towards a parking attendant or something?

Mate of mine is friends with a lawyer on the FA disciplinary panel and has asked about terry-king thing, he says that accusation was a complete load of bollocks but terry definitely should have suspended for longer in that incident for telling fibs (he claimed that the ref told him he was sending him off to 'teach him a lesson', which wasn't true). Racism though? Not a jot.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Monday, 24 October 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

His excuse this time just sounds like bollocks, though, doesn't it Pete?

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 24 October 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

I do find it hard to believe any footballer would bellow 'black cunt' halfway across a football pitch without a single person around him reacting

this is a fair point tbh, and it leaves a bunch of questions about how black players respond to, ahem, "banter" in-game. it doesn't convince me Terry didn't use racial abuse, but it does paint a sad picture if in fact he did.

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 October 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder if Terry (or his representatives) had actually viewed the youtube footage before that 'explanation' was issued. Because if they had, you would have thought they'd have run with the Blind-cunt-ref theory, instead of the anton-you're-not-a-black-cunt line. It's almost as if he/they had just heard what he'd been accused of, thought 'yeah, I probably did that', and then tried to think of way of rationalizing how the alleged words could have come out of his mouth.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 24 October 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

I'm sort of just about willing to believe that Terry isn't an out-and-out racist in his everyday life and is resorting to racist abuse as a way of unsettling the opposition. Doesn't make him any less of a cunt, mind.

Did we ever find out who the household name was that Rio Ferdinand was talking about all those years ago?

Matt DC, Monday, 24 October 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

I haven't offered my further and considered thoughts on the game at Loftus Road yesterday, so here they are, in expanded form.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Monday, 24 October 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

pete,

You can call modric a cunt and claim he's a wifebeater, it's ok.

It's ok

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Monday, 24 October 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

not gonna write a weeknd song about it but i can't help but be somewhat - what's the word? - saddened to find myself supporting such a load of clueless gobshite loadsamoney cunts. completely inept performance. was being west ham or brum really the desolate price of the prem? could we not have been idk, norwich?

I don't think you've quite got the level of churning negative ineptitude that being Brum would require. West Ham definitely though, maybe even Newcastle 2009 if you're lucky.

Matt DC, Monday, 24 October 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

I'm sort of just about willing to believe that Terry isn't an out-and-out racist in his everyday life and is resorting to racist abuse as a way of unsettling the opposition

You seriously think Terry acts in such a calculating and 'rational' way?

"Hmmm, I know just what would unsettle the opposition the most right now... racist abuse!"

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 24 October 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

all great leaders have a strategy

Ismael Klata, Monday, 24 October 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

no i can see it being used as - maybe widely accepted as - sledging. if something like that ever did come to light it'd be instructive to see which of the "if you've never played professional football you know nothing" wankers came onside.

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 October 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

My favourite evidence of John Terry leading:

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2010/06/23/article-1277310819288-0A2A7CD6000005DC-706696_636x351.jpg

Guess it's worth doing when you're the only white feller between the ball and the goal.

James Mitchell, Monday, 24 October 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

I love the juxtaposition of "prepared to get my head knocked off" and "protecting my nuts"

building a binary of hope (onimo), Monday, 24 October 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

As I said before, the video footage shows nothing but the explanation is bizarre, and at very best garbled. If QPR make a complaint, have to assume he's fucked.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Monday, 24 October 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

there is a certain coterie who are quick to assume that because john terry is a shithead, a nudnik and a cunt, and because he is from oi oi oi bnp stomping ground bahking, that he is automatically a racist too

nakhchivan, Monday, 24 October 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

Terry was due to make a personal appearance at the opening of a pet shop in Surbiton on Monday but withdrew late from the event, leaving around 100 supporters disappointed.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 07:11 (thirteen years ago)

there is a certain coterie who are quick to assume that because john terry is a shithead, a nudnik and a cunt, and because he is from oi oi oi bnp stomping ground bahking, that he is automatically a racist too
Ledley King would agree with this too, except the FA paid him off never to comment on the matter (allegedly).

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 07:33 (thirteen years ago)

The prospect of the England captain being accused of racism hangs over the game today with Anton Ferdinand expected to ask Queen's Park Rangers to petition the Football Association to investigate allegations that John Terry abused him during Chelsea's defeat at Loftus Road on Sunday. Ferdinand will make a final decision this morning after speaking to manager Neil Warnock, but The Independent understands that his inclination is to take the matter further.

Ferdinand and Terry clashed during the match, and afterwards the England captain was accused by television viewers, via Twitter and the internet, of using foul and racist language towards Ferdinand. He put out a statement denying the accusation and stating he and Ferdinand had spoken after the match and "there was no problem between us". However, it clearly was not closed as far as Ferdinand was concerned.

What did happen after the match was a tunnel bust-up between players from both sides, which is claimed to have involved Terry and QPR goalkeeper, Paddy Kenny, who was furious after the Chelsea captain allegedly insulted him on the pitch with a jibe of a very personal nature.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 07:53 (thirteen years ago)

dont believe it for a second tbh

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 07:55 (thirteen years ago)

EBRCJT

Baobab Galliwasplie (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 07:56 (thirteen years ago)

idgi tbh, surely the pair of them would both be immune to cuckoldry refs by now

r|t|c, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 07:56 (thirteen years ago)

unless....

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 07:58 (thirteen years ago)

which leaves "bet that eyebrow doesnt need much plucking in the mornings" or "lol u fat u big fatty"

r|t|c, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 07:58 (thirteen years ago)

haha when the crowd were chanting fat bastard at lamps kenny did supposedly turn round to them like "..."

r|t|c, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 07:59 (thirteen years ago)

austerity division lines

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 08:02 (thirteen years ago)

could have gone both barrels, i reckon- 'i fucked yer wife an all, do i get your other eyebrow you fat mick cunt'

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 08:05 (thirteen years ago)

lol everyone zings paddy kenny

caek, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 08:11 (thirteen years ago)

police involved now http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15424799.stm

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 08:22 (thirteen years ago)

if you need an adjudication on racial abuse, the police are definitely the go-to guys

Baobab Galliwasplie (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 09:23 (thirteen years ago)

You seriously think Terry acts in such a calculating and 'rational' way?

"Hmmm, I know just what would unsettle the opposition the most right now... racist abuse!"

Except it doesn't need to be calculating, footballers wind each other up on the pitch all the time, there's no reason why Terry (or Materazzi or whoever) wouldn't go as far as possible to try and get an opponent to react. Especially given they're cunts.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 10:19 (thirteen years ago)

watching the tackles, elbows etc that the average epl defender puts in on other professionals each week, imagining that there's a line drawn at verbal abuse of any type seems.... naive

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 10:42 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not aware that racial abuse between players is that common

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 10:46 (thirteen years ago)

You can hear players at quiet games sometimes, if racist abuse were normal I imagine we'd know all about it already.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 10:48 (thirteen years ago)

You never know, it might just be that John Terry is racist.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 10:48 (thirteen years ago)

... and stupid, he's playing in a multi-racial team week in week out

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 10:54 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.surbitonpeople.co.uk/Tears-John-Terry-Surbiton-snake-shop/story-13647531-detail/story.html

the pinefox, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea FC star John Terry left hundreds of children and fans disappointed as he failed to turn up to the opening of Reptile Kingdom in Surbiton today. Hundreds of people queued down Ewell Road waiting for John Terry to turn up; many with books and footballs to get signed, but all were left without seeing their Chelsea FC hero.

The controversy surrounding Terry is thought to have prevented him attending the shop opening today. As well as the Surbitonpeople reporter, there were many photographers and reporters from the national press. We think it's a shame that he didn't turn up as although he may have had a few awkward questions from reporters, he would have received huge support from the hundreds of supporters who had turned up to meet him.

We spoke with some of the people who had turned up to see the Chelsea star: Liam from Berrylands said "I'm gutted as I've been queuing with the kids for hours to meet their hero John Terry, he could have said he wasn't coming." Ian from central Surbiton said "I'm a bit annoyed as I have taken a day off work to see him." Kim from Ewell Road said "I just feel sorry for the kids who were so looking forward to meeting him. We still love him though."

Unfortunately the John Terry no show overshadowed what was a big day for the owners of Reptile Kingdom at 122 Ewell Road, Surbiton. The owners of the new shop are Ryan and Terrence who have put a lot of work into opening the new shop. There was face painting, free refreshments, free raffle and 'touch & feel' sessions with some of the snakes.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:07 (thirteen years ago)

METRO version of the story is different:

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/oddballs/879616-john-terry-makes-slithering-apology-after-snake-shop-no-show

The Chelsea and England captain had been expected to cut the ribbon at the Reptile Kingdom in Surrey, with owner Terrence Clark saying he had organised Terry’s appearance through a mutual friend.

But, in a statement, Terry said: ‘There appears to be some confusion regarding my attendance at an opening of a pet shop today in Surbiton.

'I had not agreed to attend the opening of this or any other shop today. I very much regret any distress or disappointment that may have been suffered by the public.’

Clark revealed the day was still a success but added: ‘It looks bad on him and not us. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t disappointed but we still had a good time.’

The Blues skipper has found himself embroiled in another slippery situation, with QPR’s Anton Ferdinand said to be considering lodging a complaint against him with the FA over alleged racist remarks.

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/oddballs/879616-john-terry-makes-slithering-apology-after-snake-shop-no-show#ixzz1bn5SFrRW

the pinefox, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:08 (thirteen years ago)

You get the feeling EB&RJT has one highly adaptable excuse for everything.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:11 (thirteen years ago)

original story 10 days ago:
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/oddballs/878684-john-terry-to-open-surbiton-snake-shop

the pinefox, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:11 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/8847125/John-Terry-apologises-to-Chelsea-fans-after-they-erroneously-flocked-to-see-him-open-a-pet-shop.html

"For the avoidance of doubt, I had not agreed to attend the opening of this or any other shop today.

"I had been asked if I would consider the opportunity and declined on two separate occasions. That is as far as the matter went."

the pinefox, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:13 (thirteen years ago)

Who the hell writes these statements?

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

can you hear players talking at quiet games?

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

'this or any other shop'

as if he indeed wasn't supposed to open the pet shop, but could still be criticized for not opening a toy shop in Fulham

the pinefox, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

I'm waiting for footage to leak onto youtube of him clearly mouthing an acceptance of the offer to open Surbiton's famed Reptile Kingdom.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:35 (thirteen years ago)

"or any other" is a general purpose colloquial intensifier these days tbh

r|t|c, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

No he's clearly mouthing "I will not happily open a snake shop in Surbiton".

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

the blind mambas in there are v reasonably priced

r|t|c, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

No he's clearly mouthing "I will not happily open a snake shop in Surbiton".

It's difficult to say, tbh, as a cobra slithers across the screen and obscures his mouth at the vital moment

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

^

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/50585

bah

r|t|c, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:42 (thirteen years ago)

q: jean thierry, que'est-ce que c'est?

e: a cunt

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.artcyclopedia.com/artists/thierry_jean.html

bit harsh

r|t|c, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

Baroque bastard

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

You can hear players shouting at Loftus Road often enough, because of the proximity of pitch to crowd. Not so much on Sunday though, because the ground was so noisy.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

To be fair to EBL&RJT, he's done a great deal to build bridges between different cultures, as Vanessa Perroncel would agree.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

All Terry family wore blind suits to Dale Roberts' funeral. Oh, except they weren't invited for some reason.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

*All the Terry family*, even

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

"That was never a foul ref, are you black or something?"

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2011/10/24/article-1319484441825-0E7FD72800000578-615029_466x310.jpg

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

He swears black to Anton Ferdinand that he didn't call him a blind cunt.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

So, Mr Evra and Mr Ferdinand, I know you feel insulted. But perhaps in this case you could just put up with it and get on with the game.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2052843/John-Terry-racism-row-Anton-Ferdinand-game.html

Chris, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

Fucking hell.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

it’s worth making the comparison with what passes as everyday behaviour in a nearby country we are often invited to admire

Well, I don't know about you but, to the best of my knowledge, I have never been invited to admire Spain. Maybe that's just me though.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

so sports writers would say the Brazil team of the 1960s were great because they had creative black forwards and steady, dependable, white defenders

... uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Is it April 1st?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

the article is stupid, he's stupid, but if you re-read the line about Brazil he's saying "this was the sort of nonsense that sports writers used to write" tbf to the cunt

Baobab Galliwasplie (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

cos i did a double take and re-read that para

Baobab Galliwasplie (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

man i'm sorry i'm distracted by the election/flooding, this is def the week terry gets his

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

Nice to see Villas-Boas is giving Terry his binding.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

nice

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

That's just black loyalty

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

he doesn't lind bottle

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

Should silence his critics by playing a blacker in his next game.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

Silence those critics who are out to blinden his name

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

JT went round to Ashley Cole's house to play Pro-Evo and the afternoon was fine apart from the fact that the light kept shining through the window and getting in JT's eyes and distracting him from his game. On the way out JT remarked, "nice house, shame about the blacks".

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

john terry possibly isn't racist, he just considers racial abuse a fair method of winding up an opponent- is this kind of where we are?

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

Nah I'm at roughly the place I was during the really mental stages of the phone hacking scandal where all I wanted was for worse and worse revelations to come out and all concerned to be taken down.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

john terry possibly isn't racist, he just considers racial abuse a fair method of winding up an opponent- is this kind of where we are?

Fellow's a blindguard

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

john terry possibly isn't racist, he just considers racial abuse a fair method of winding up an opponent- is this kind of where we are?

― generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:46 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

is it possible he doesn't consider the phrase "black cunt" to be racially abusive, just shop talk.

mizzell, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, kinda what i'm getting at

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

This is pretty good, the last paragraph is nailed on, especially given what Matt just said.

http://www.twohundredpercent.net/?p=15849

Find the notion he uses racism to wind up fellow pros highly unlikely as that is a very dangerous game to play.

Looking ahead: if QPR press charges and the FA find him guilty, Chelsea have to sack him surely?

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

will he get sacked as captain again by capello?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

Probably be the end of his international career.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

But when I say Chelsea should sack him, I mean as a player not just as captain. It's inexcusable.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

At least there's no chance of Ferdinand being worried about not being picked for the England team.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

Can't see him being sacked. Woodgate was picked for England after significantly worse. He'll probably stick to his denial even if he's punished for it and Chelsea will back him.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

vilas-bullshit is backing him 100%

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

Just think though, all he had to do was watch youtube, see the comments about 'blind cunt' before issuing his statement and he would've gotten away with it.

Youtube users cleverer than John Terry England captain.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

that twohundredpercent article is well-written for bullshit racism apology. Seems more concerned about dear john's rep and the possibility of this being a false accusation from ferdinand than anything else

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

AVB's comments come across as str8 trollin. "I find it strange when people don't trust the words of a representative from your country"? Hadn't he heard of EBBGJRCJT before he took the job?

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

agreed, it's sub-mourinho in both panache and ambition tho

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

big greetin jessie?

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

EBBGJRCJT

His official title is "Blubbering penalty-shanking glass-jawed racist cunt", thank you.

Chuck in an "England's Brave" if you feel like it.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

sorry, won't forget the penalty-shanking again.

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

'dirty' is the least of his elements, and should be in there. 'cheating liar' works on numerous levels too

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

'vilas-bullshit is backing him 100%'

Yeah, VILAS-BULLSHIT the manager of CHAVSKI for fuck's sake.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

'that twohundredpercent article is well-written for bullshit racism apology. Seems more concerned about dear john's rep and the possibility of this being a false accusation from ferdinand than anything else'

Think the point is that as of this morning there wasn't an accusation from Ferdinand but that wasn't stopping people drawing conclusions purely based on personal prejudice. Can't think why that point hasn't gone down well with you.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.qpr.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10373~2493873,00.html

Hmmm, QPR reporting Terry but making no accusations.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

Smacks of hand-washing...

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

'Vilas-Bullshit' is pretty weak. The English-language commentator I get on Portugese matches sometimes pronounces it 'Andrew Villa's boss.'

(Sorry for off-topic, I know M-F is supposed to be racism uproar only.)

boxall, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

well im ever so sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry i dont reach your high standards

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

no prob

I guess I just wish Ferguson had thrown a fit on Sun. and we could be laughing at him right now instead of more racism. It's a valid subject, should be talked about, but two weeks in a row is tiresome and depressing.

boxall, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

The Twohundredpercent piece is mostly spot on but stuff like you must either hold the opinion that he is the greatest defender that Chelsea or England have ever had, or that he is the worst human being of the twenty-first century is just grandstanding, ironically.

Baobab Galliwasplie (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

I miss DJ Martian, a propos of nothing.

Baobab Galliwasplie (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

Before my time but I was reading through an old thread and he was convinced Royston Drenthe would be a hit in the Prem (for Portsmouth), proved correct so far.

boxall, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

to be precise, pete, the article is drawing conclusions based on personal prejudice about people drawing conclusions based on john terry being a thorough cunt

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

was away for the weekend, only just now watching a downloaded motd2 and:

1. how the fuck did the clusterfuck on this thread be about ebjt being a cunt instead of the 6-1?
2. lolololol 6-1.
3. silva-mario-aguero is more exciting to me than messi-villa-pedro, imo. not better, but more exciting.
4. HOW IS THERE NOT A GIF OF AGUERO LIGHTLY TAPPING SUPERMARIO JOKINGLY AND THEN MARIO SLAPPING AGUERO BACK, AGUERO LOOKING PISSED?
5. ebjt a racist? who woulda thunk it? 5 years ago?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

he's not racist until he admits it- everything up til then is your prejudice showing

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

and the fact that he called a guy a black cunt at the weekend and has a history of it iirc

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

he's not racist until he admits it- everything up til then is your prejudice showing his statement writer can't hack it anymore and slips up

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

Away anywhere nice?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

just went to visit a 'friend'.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.mamapop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/jack-nicholson-the-shining-heres-johnny.jpg

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 25 October 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

the shinning - ref to rooney's o/h kick imo

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

agreed, it's sub-mourinho in both panache and ambition tho

Having just seen's Jose's electric shaver ad I'd advise holding back on this adjective for a bit.

William Bloody Swygart, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

Carlos Tevez may sue Man City boss Roberto Mancini for defamation of character, BBC understands

William Bloody Swygart, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

that'd be an excellent use of everyone's time

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

man, y'alls various dramas are owning this week

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 25 October 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

srsly!

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

Would footcelsior that Ismael post if I could be bothered to find the thread, just the right tone.

boxall, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

I miss DJ Martian, a propos of nothing.

― Baobab Galliwasplie (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 18:55 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol

caek, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 01:29 (thirteen years ago)

tevez gets paid £250k a week ?!

GOOD
GOD

Summer Slam! (Ste), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:26 (thirteen years ago)

Needs a poll on ILF: When you guys started to support chelsea.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:27 (thirteen years ago)

tbf that's before tax

tbf it's better value than rooney, when the ugly little bugger bothers to play

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

Too early yet for Man City glory hunters to start showing up? Haven't noticed any in London yet. I don't know any Man City supporters at all in fact.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:35 (thirteen years ago)

... I've never met one!

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:36 (thirteen years ago)

danielgiraffe iirc

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:42 (thirteen years ago)

i know 2 longtime supporters (both accies fans)

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:42 (thirteen years ago)

I think they genuinely are a local phenomenon. Might also be big in the middle east, I dunno.

xps was horrified to find myself hoping for a Chelsea equaliser at the end on Sunday

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:45 (thirteen years ago)

Nobody I've ever known from Manchester/Greater Mcr has ever supported City either

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:46 (thirteen years ago)

I think I know five - three of whom are legit, while the other two at least got in early enough to claim they've been supporting Man City since before they were successful rich.

Does any really start supporting a completely new side after the age of about fifteen?

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:48 (thirteen years ago)

lol now i think about it i don't think i've ever met a city fan either.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:51 (thirteen years ago)

I know a couple of people who've changed teams as adults, and at least make a show of taking defeats really badly. It's the saddest sight in the world.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:55 (thirteen years ago)

the new Man City fans are coming of age in schools around Ireland as we speak

Number None, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 11:03 (thirteen years ago)

not just ireland tbf.

gonna be weird in 15 years time when there are no utd fans under 30 in southern england.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

tru

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

It's not that long ago that Man City were in the third tier of English football and jumping on the bandwagon feels a bit tawdry for anyone above school age, so it's hardly surprising you haven't met many.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

like how there must be a new generation of kids where like 1 in 15 don't become a leeds fan just because and instead have become a stoke fan or something.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

... there's football fans and football fans and then there's Arsenal fans

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 11:07 (thirteen years ago)

I know a couple of non-Manc City fans. I blame Oasis tbh.

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 11:07 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder if there are tons of thirty-year-old Newcastle fans in places like Oman and Indonesia?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 11:07 (thirteen years ago)

I mean imagine going up to a Man City fan in 1998 or 99 and trying to explain all this to them, they'd think you were insane.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 11:08 (thirteen years ago)

well they were busy having their minds blown by be here now tbf. :D

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

I imagine recently arrived immigrants will already be thinking of supporting Citeh, if not supporting them already, I haven't been down to Stokey to watch a match in a while so I haven't noticed any yet

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

That Melvyn Bragg piece. I never really understood being a fan until now.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 11:12 (thirteen years ago)

Carlisle Utd fans obviously don't count

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 11:13 (thirteen years ago)

i know quite a few city fans, the're about as legit as all the man u and liverpool fans i know too

Summer Slam! (Ste), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 11:39 (thirteen years ago)

zing

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

You can talk, Melvyn Bragg was a gooner before you were.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

Needs a poll on ILF: When you guys started to support chelsea.

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r|t|c, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

That Chelsea thread was posted on one of the QPR messageboards yesterday, to much hilarity.

Now, the Terry affair. Terry's own version of what happened on the pitch appears to be:
JT: Anton, you're a fucking blind cunt
AF: Did you just call me a fucking black cunt?
JT: Oi, Anton, I didn't call you a fucking black cunt.

Even in the heat of the moment, that doesn't sound a wholly credible exchange, does it?

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

i wouldn't expect any better from you *sniff*

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

MES is a City fan, "just to be contrary" surprise surprise: http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/3751/29/

edb, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

noted ilxor king boy pato is a man city fan

carstens, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

JT: Anton, you're a fucking blind cunt
AF: Did you just call me a fucking black cunt?
JT: Oi, Anton, I didn't call you a fucking black cunt.

Why would you call an opposing player a blind cunt? The ref, yes, but not a player. Did Anton walk into a goalpost or something?

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

Has anyone even considered the words might have been something other than black/blind cunt? I mean, what about "bell end" or something?

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

he meant black, obv

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

It could be "black bell end" I suppose...

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

blackcurrant

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

"You're a fucking blackcurrant Anton!"
"Did you call me a fucking black cunt?"
"No I called you a fucking blackcurrant you fucking deaf black cunt!"

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

I've watched the video and tbh if no-one said to me "he's saying 'fucking black cunt'" I'd have no idea what he was saying, other than that it clearly had "fucking" in it.

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

If he said blackcurrant, that's OK. But if he said black currant, that's racist filth.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

You'd think JT might've had his statement drafted on that basis xp.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

this may be the greatest merk of our times, rio jumps out on the steps of the high court with the cameras

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

"You got MERKED LOL!"
"Rio you fucking b_"

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

lol exactly

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

A blind day for John Terry:

http://s1-03.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/433726523.jpg

James Mitchell, Thursday, 27 October 2011 07:41 (thirteen years ago)

Kenny, Derry and Hill — an active players’ union representative — question whether any such exchange took place, given that Ferdinand had no knowledge of a racial element to what was said until after the game.

Terry does not deny that the video shows him using the phrase ‘black ****’ but argues that it was said in the context of Ferdinand’s accusation — an accusation Ferdinand and his team-mates will say was never made.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2053972/Race-row-deepens-Terry-as.html?

r|t|c, Thursday, 27 October 2011 07:53 (thirteen years ago)

ffs this is just a witch hunt now

RIP Big Muam mißya til I'm Libya (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 October 2011 07:56 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah but it's against John Terry, so who cares?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 October 2011 08:42 (thirteen years ago)

that's not good enough. anyone has the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty and anton ferdinand hasn't even issued a statement on this yet, this is being blown out of proportion to the available facts.

RIP Big Muam mißya til I'm Libya (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 October 2011 09:46 (thirteen years ago)

lol

RIP Big Muam mißya til I'm Libya (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 October 2011 09:46 (thirteen years ago)

He should just be grateful there aren't any Libyans with metal poles about.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 October 2011 09:48 (thirteen years ago)

should have taken a superinjunction against it

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Thursday, 27 October 2011 09:53 (thirteen years ago)

superinjcuntion

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Thursday, 27 October 2011 10:05 (thirteen years ago)

As Toni Poole would say, love is black.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 27 October 2011 10:15 (thirteen years ago)

"Anton and Rio refuse to take England captain's calls"

the blind leading the blind

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Thursday, 27 October 2011 11:26 (thirteen years ago)

media blindout, it's like they've pulled the blacks and aren't answering the doorbell

RIP Big Muam mißya til I'm Libya (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 October 2011 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

that 'when did you start supporting chelsea?' thread reminds me of a posh bloke i met at a party a few years ago said he was a fan because he was "chelsea born and bred" :D

jabba hands, Thursday, 27 October 2011 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

Anton F probably hasn't issued a statement because he didn't hear anything said on the pitch, therefore he can neither confirm nor deny the truth of any allegations about Terry. There's no point in him issuing a statement, especially as both the FA and the police are investigating.

I suspect QPR might have been happy to help put the affair to bed were it not for Chelsea's patronising match preview on their website - http://www.chelseafc.com/page/TalkingPoints/0,,10268~57694,00.html - which caused a certain amount of offence at Loftus Road, according to the SubStandard.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Thursday, 27 October 2011 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

it really is ridiculous- does anyone actually believe that england captain john terry would do this?

FIND OUT SUNDAY NIGHT ON ILF!

RIP Big Muam mißya til I'm Libya (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 October 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

KEY STAT
Last weekend's strike by Heidar Helguson is the only home goal scored by one of QPR's own players over 376 minutes this season.

fuck chelsea, their racist cunt captain, their mobile phone abusing left-back, their sulky not-as-he-used-to-be prick cf, their fat penalty taker, their next messiah manager and many many of their fans.

pete seems like a nice guy though tbh.

Upt0eleven, Thursday, 27 October 2011 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

of that list, i actually think most charitably towards the fat one these days.

Upt0eleven, Thursday, 27 October 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

Free John Terry. Burn Pete.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 27 October 2011 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

Anton F probably hasn't issued a statement because he didn't hear anything said on the pitch, therefore he can neither confirm nor deny the truth of any allegations about Terry.
Probably did what Ledley did and is taking the FA's money to keep quiet about it.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 27 October 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

Still, the new ad campaign for Carlsberg, Official Beer of The England Football Team, promises to be a laugh.

At least they can still use the ads with Wayne Rooney in.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 27 October 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

So we can expect Ferdinand Minor to get an unexpected England cap in some meaningless friendly or other?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 October 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

I wouldn't go that far.

Matt DC, Thursday, 27 October 2011 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

I suppose he's too rubbish, but tbh I've never taken any notice of him before so have no idea quite how rubbish he is

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 October 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

Love the fact that DM story got debunked so quickly (nobody seemed to have posted that funnily enough) - Derry wasn't even on the pitch at the time...

Have a feeling now Terry will be cleared quite quickly and everybody will apologise.

Anyway, this is much more important.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/oct/27/chelsea-defeated-freehold-stamford-bridge

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Thursday, 27 October 2011 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

ya tbh i'd be interested for yr take on that pete, good thing or bad?

I suspect the DM story was fabricated by terry's people to discredit the case against, this shit goes deep imo

RIP Big Muam mißya til I'm Libya (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 October 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

"We will meet with Mr Abramovich and the rest of the board and decide what, if anything, we will do to take things forward. We are all Chelsea fans and I can only hope that, on Saturday, we all get together, support this club and beat the crap out of Arsenal."

r|t|c, Thursday, 27 October 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

I think a good thing. the club haven't handled it particularly well and ownership of the freehold is a big thing to give up just like that with no real concrete assurance about where we will end up. hopefully the club will renegotiate. I'm reluctant to move at all, though.

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Thursday, 27 October 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

their sulky not-as-he-used-to-be prick cf

lol at how i can't figure out who is being refered to up thread.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 27 October 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

torres!

RIP Big Muam mißya til I'm Libya (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 October 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

wayne rooney

nakhchivan, Thursday, 27 October 2011 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

was really looking forward to discussing rooney this week before some racist cunt stole the oxygen of publicity from the fat cunt

nakhchivan, Thursday, 27 October 2011 18:17 (thirteen years ago)

Is Barry Bannan now a skinny etc. or does that epithet not apply equally well to all body types?

boxall, Thursday, 27 October 2011 18:29 (thirteen years ago)

i think barry bannan is possibly what scottish ppl describe as a 'weegie ned' but u will have to check that with the SPL reglas

nakhchivan, Thursday, 27 October 2011 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

(xp) I don't think there would be an awful lot to say about Rooney, tbh. It's not as if he was especially responsible for Sunday's result. Up to the sending off United were losing 1-0 and struggling to impose themselves in midfield. If Evans hadn't been such a dick it would probably have finished 2-0 or 1-1. After the red card it was just a question of how much United would lose by. The three goals in quick succession right at the end were a result of total dereliction of duty by the defence. There are far bigger questions to ask about Ferdinand and Evra than Rooney. Personally, I hope Berbatov gets a game at the weekend, though.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 27 October 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

At least Rio has the excuse of being broken. Evra just doesn't seem to give a toss any more

Number None, Thursday, 27 October 2011 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

Man City confirm Carlos Tevez will only be fined two weeks' wages, rather than four weeks'

This is the lead story on the BBC's NEWS ticker at present.

William Bloody Swygart, Thursday, 27 October 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

i think barry bannan is possibly what scottish ppl describe as a 'weegie ned' but u will have to check that with the SPL reglas

I'd describe him as a "tanner ba' player" - or at least the modern equivalent of one

and a bit ay a ned as well I suppose - there was footage of him on tv the other week going through the airport in a cheap suit and trainers which is standard court appearance attire in the ned fraternity. His accent isn't too rough for an Airdrie boy - spending almost half his life in England has softened him up I think.

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Friday, 28 October 2011 10:03 (thirteen years ago)

In the kingdom of the black, Gordon Strachan is king.

zappi, Friday, 28 October 2011 10:18 (thirteen years ago)

so Titus Bramble has been charged with 2 counts of sexual assault AND URINATING IN A PUBLIC PLACE

peligro, Friday, 28 October 2011 12:37 (thirteen years ago)

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01398/GarethBale_1398769j.jpg

James Mitchell, Friday, 28 October 2011 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

I'm thinking nuChelsea v Arsenal could be a cracking game, what with Drogba being out and Arsenal being the epl's form team and all

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, can see another scatter of reds the way chelsea are struggling positionally at the back

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 11:20 (thirteen years ago)

lovely ball by lampard there

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 11:47 (thirteen years ago)

there's darragh's 'chelsea struggling positionally at the back'. sloppy play from that arsenal throw by chelsea. this is terrible defending early on.

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

terrible terrible waste by sturridge!!!!

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

chelsea should have had 2 by now. shambles by arsenal.

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

horrendous miss by gervinho, nice ball from feo

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

Game is shaping up nicely

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

this is an entertaining game in a clueless kind of way

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

God I thought Utd couldn't defend! These 2 are even worse!

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

is gervinho any good? seems wrong to play him above arshavin when the latter is showing signs of life

nakhchivan, Saturday, 29 October 2011 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

that was a great counter set up by lamps, how the hell did gervinho not score

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 29 October 2011 11:59 (thirteen years ago)

My fantasy team thanks you Frank!!

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 11:59 (thirteen years ago)

sloppy brilliance for the neutral

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

think arshavin on his game is better than gervinho, but gervinho does get in great positions tbf

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

That was fantastic from Mata, I hate liking Chelsea players this much.

Chelsea are so much better than Arsenal right now, also lol Gervinho.

Matt DC, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

cannot believe how much space there is down the flanks behind the full backs on both sides.

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

martin tyler p much never critices players, but a santos got it there

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:08 (thirteen years ago)

critices

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

oi mates some big bottom serb is all over the chelsea backline

nakhchivan, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

could have done with a lampard assist sturridge you idiot

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck it anyway, Cleverley off injured. De Gea just saved with his face.

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

this arsenal has won 6 of 7?

Is that counting training matches or what

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

was this cleverley's first game back?

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

all at home darragh i think.

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

Some of these misses are unbelievable. Think Arsenal's will regret theirs more though.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

wtf both games early

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

Cleverley came back in the Carling Cup

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:17 (thirteen years ago)

torres can't even take it round santos. useless.

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:20 (thirteen years ago)

easy

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

Very nice.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

on this showing both these teams way way short of top class.

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:22 (thirteen years ago)

Disallowed, but that was effing hopeless.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

boswinga just skinned santos. embarrassing.

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

how much did he cost again?

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

santos < ekotto

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:25 (thirteen years ago)

Nice goal by RVP

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:25 (thirteen years ago)

£5m apparently. hmm.

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

thought it was £6.5m in which case ande santos cost slightly more than jose enrique

nakhchivan, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

he isn't a bad player, just not great and maybe not adaptable to the epl

nakhchivan, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

shite is never good value

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

or maybe sturridge is just that good

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

chelsea need torres to wake the fuck up and they got this.

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

ooooooooooh

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck's sake.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

inevitable

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

Terry fires it in from point black range

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

thought he was gonna sieg heil there

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

Well it has been a cracking game - I was just hoping for a high-quality cracking game is all.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

mertesacker thinks he's limber, sami hyypia needs to have a word with this guy and explain how you defend when you're that slow

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

fuck 'on this particular day'

sky really doesn't need a john terry redemption narrative

nakhchivan, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:33 (thirteen years ago)

This is an entertaining game between these two sleeping giants.

Matt DC, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:33 (thirteen years ago)

absorbing game but crikey a lot of that was just hopeless.

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:33 (thirteen years ago)

philmcnulty Phil McNulty
FA totally correct to take time over Evra/Suarez & Terry/Ferdinand cases. Obligation is to make the right decision not the quick one.

nakhchivan, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

gnev is mvp tbh, nothing but scorn for this rubbish

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:39 (thirteen years ago)

^^^^^

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

Ha at no time during that corner was terry marked

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

at least it's not just dawson/bassong who seem to consider marking the only opposition player in your box a frivolity, but who coaches this shit?

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

Nev shaking his head sadly while 'knapp spews nonsense is a nice touch

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

funny how much resistance gary neville is getting for being vehement about how bad the defending is in the prem at the moment. devaluing the product.

zvookster, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

Not sure anyone coaches at arsenal tbh. The current Blizzard runs an extended metaphor likening Wenger to 70s film auteurs - great at adding flair and tension to what they inherit from the studios, but when they get complete creative control you end up with Heaven's Gate.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

and so it continues.....

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

am unfailingly astonished every week at how nev (from first appearance on tv) changed in my mind from rat faced omnitwat to walking continent of sense.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

Six minutes of Moyes time, makes me sick

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

hahaha

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

he should stay up that end

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

off

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

ooh lucky

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

no goalie how is that not a goal scoring opportunity?

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

gnev has turned this game around

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

This'll be 5-4 and schoolkids everywhere will think it's the best game ever

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

don't care how wide he was, there was no goalie to beat.

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

Three or four defenders though.

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

two players back, plenty of doubt imo, yellow justified

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

just tryin to work out how this is 2-2 and the answer is that torres is a handicap, a footballer shaped hole where definable product should be.

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

Utd just scrape the win with Vidic outstanding. For all their possession Everton didn't really manufacture enough chances though

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

feeeoooo

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

haha this is silly

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

can't wait for City to take on these defences

ha that was cool

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

w00t

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

smart finish though, he takes a snapshot well

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

mourinho would weep at this chelsea defending

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

so should villas-boas tbh

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 29 October 2011 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

theo is a v passable finisher on the run, no doubt, but i mean he fell over there and still got up and scored

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

Missed the first 9 minutes of the second half (listening to approx 8 mins of injury time awarded by the secret pro-Goodison illuminati), was just in time to see Walcott's goal. What did I miss? (The equaliser, obviously, but what's this debate about someone not getting sent off?)

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

Winston Bogarde must be turning in his grave

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

cech culpable, not ashley cole, per alan smith the english commentator

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

true dat.
chelsea didn't have to go into this game playing expansive football. arsenal so bad at the back that chelsea could play pretty negatively and chances would still have materialised imo

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

Wasn't a red, Szczesney took Cole out but somehow a pile of defenders were back covering.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

nbs sczezcny cleaned out a cole outside the box but there were a good few players behind or level with play

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

Is RVP going grey or is it my stream?

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

I was thinking that about rvp all game. He'll make a distinguished old gent, got a Neil Tennant vibe about him.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

xp It's the Windowlene they polish him with.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

torres has dived

Sum contribution this half

Oh, tbf, he ran out the left wing about five mins ago then threw a strop when nobody passed to him

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah exactly! xxp

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

Good play is kind of redundant here tbf

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

match raising more q's about chelsea than it's answering about arsenal

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

This match is made for Arshavin I feel; he should be on.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

think it's answering questions about chelsea tbh

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

foul from bosingwa there imo

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

agree

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

at least that time they tackled feo after he fell down. progress.

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

Lukaku time

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

avb ducking out imo

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

yeah surprised torres didn't get hooked

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

though i like the ref is basically staying out of this so far, enough madness without him

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

jenkinson? really?

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

Good times:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XLhNGWs8Zw

James Mitchell, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

Both sides dishing out a masterclass in how to lose possession

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

Too many substitutions now, game's lost all shape.

Matt DC, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

Lolvanovic

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

Lol more fun for lip-readers

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

Sensational

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

Matatatatatatatatatataaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa (<~ Spanish comentators on my stream)

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

ref knocks one in from 30 yards

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

Ugh.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

Darragh oym

Keeper was late to it as well

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

AVB throwing Freddie Mercury shapes in celebration

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

ahahaha

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

HAHAHAHAHA

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

Abramovich must be delighted with AVB. I get the feeling he'd take this over any number of grinding 1-0 wins.

Matt DC, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

Hoho

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

That's as good as the Moscow slip

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

TERRY IS A CUNT
KARMA IS A BITCH
TERRY IS A CUNT

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

Okay I'm a bit behind. Hilarious.

Matt DC, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

YOU UTTER CUNT, FUCK OFF, DIE IN A FIRE

James Mitchell, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

Amazing.

oppet, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

HAAAAAA

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

doesnt get better than that

xps

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

beautiful game

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

he'd never have let gervinho score there

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

That was glorious.

Hahaha <3 u LBI

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

You gotta love football \o_O/

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

<3 u Upt0eleven

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

Need racist-cunt-falling-on-arse.gif plz.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

http://i40.tinypic.com/2yls1gm.jpg

James Mitchell, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

YESSS James <3

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

ooooh

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

Hahahaha

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

wow

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

RVP YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

Woo!

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

epl rip

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

gnev hung by his tie in studio

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

THE RACE FOR THIRD IS ON

James Mitchell, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

lol

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

Newcastle's to lose now

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

Are there any good defences in the league at all right now? Even City's looks dodgy.

Matt DC, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

epl rip

― Ismael Klata, Saturday, October 29, 2011 1:34 PM (7 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

or "a great, great advert for the Premier League" if you're the 5live commnentator

We All Had Guess Papers (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/of8me.gif

James Mitchell, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

James where do you find these so fast?

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

Oof, below Arsenal

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

I never tire of watching Chelsea lose.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

Was that a Nazi salute from Van Persie after the second goal btw?

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

Rather obvious Terry parody iirc

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

I assumed so

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

Redknapp and Neville reckon Szczęsny should have walked. I didn't see it live but i'd tend to agree

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

GNev pointing that Terry didn't even slip, just took a flop - quality analysis imo.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

Would agree with red for Szczesney now btw, having seen how he caught him. Wasn't last man though.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

http://hasandrevillasboasbeensackedyet.com/

James Mitchell, Saturday, 29 October 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

ok lol

zvookster, Saturday, 29 October 2011 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

lol wtf

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 29 October 2011 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

my internet was conked out this morning, so i decided i'd do shit around the house instead of trying to fix it or go to the pub or something. wtf is rong with me?

james do you have some highlights? 101gg hates me atm.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 29 October 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

A bit of handbags between Robin van Persie and Branislav Ivanovic, which ends with Van Persie shoving Ivanovic, and the Chelsea defender throwing himself to the floor - the replays made him look ridiculous - and I think it's fair that they both ended up getting booked.

feel like this may need a gif, even if doesnt involve racists.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 29 October 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

It was awful, but fun all the same.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

Not the whole thing, but:

http://i41.tinypic.com/2jan5hz.jpg

James Mitchell, Saturday, 29 October 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

What a game that was. The Arsenal players are celebrating near their fans as if they have won the league, and this result suggests they might yet be capable of doing so this season.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

tef90 on Twitter: "Where else in the world would you find football like this? Superb entertainment."

this guy would love the bundesliga of the past 5 years.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 29 October 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

http://i41.tinypic.com/2jan5hz.jpg

"white"?

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Saturday, 29 October 2011 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

I've been saying it for a while but Malouda really is rubbish

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i hate this "football at its best" nonsense

otoh city-wolves been really dull so far
xp

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 29 October 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wklOgDmbgWs

James Mitchell, Saturday, 29 October 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

Not sure anyone coaches at arsenal tbh. The current Blizzard runs an extended metaphor likening Wenger to 70s film auteurs - great at adding flair and tension to what they inherit from the studios, but when they get complete creative control you end up with Heaven's Gate.

― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 Bookmark

Hilarious and wrong!

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 October 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

wolves just had a good chance, free header 8 yards out, straight at hart

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

wolves camped in city half last 5 mins

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

adam johnson finishes it from 22 yards on the break

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

Cleverley injury not serious thankfully. He definitely made a difference today, Utd's link-up play deteriorated notably when he went off

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

he's got the not celebrating scoring just like mario down pat as well. he hates mancini i think.
xp re johnson

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

Yes! Rip Steve Kean.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

wanted blackburn to win. OTOH Grant Holt fantasy points!!!

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

Yellow & green >> blue & white quarters

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 29 October 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

wanted blackburn to win

explain

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

srsly

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

i quite like steve kean, drunk driving aside obviously.
also i don't like any failure being attributed to getting rid of allardyce cos i loathe him. a lot.

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

carroll starts for us today. bollocks.

pandemic, Saturday, 29 October 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

Crikey, that last ten minutes had so much action I'm almost worried there won't be time to post a load of tryhard OTT invective about what a terrible person John Terry is!!!

MPx4A, Saturday, 29 October 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

I sure hope John Terry falls through a plate glass window and gets some broken glass stuck in his glans btw!!

MPx4A, Saturday, 29 October 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

oh, I quite like him

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

omg wtf ban ^^^

MPx4A, Saturday, 29 October 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

To be fair that belly flop during the fourth goal gave me considerable enjoyment. Gotta love that.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

I thought Carroll was supposed to have been a beast midweek xp?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

If John Terry did not exist it would be necessary to invent him

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

We created him Number None, we are all responsible.

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 29 October 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

in your face pandemic

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

http://f.cl.ly/items/1Z20251L1l2u2q3D1E1g/JAZZHANDSHQ.gif

James Mitchell, Saturday, 29 October 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

Lovely ball from Lucas. Need more from Downing.

Chris, Saturday, 29 October 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

decent 1st half from liverpool.

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Saturday, 29 October 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

Important to get a second for once.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

Skrtel and Agger were awesome today. Carragher better hadn't walk back into the team next Saturday.

Chris, Saturday, 29 October 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

well he's not gonna run

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

haha

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

A lot of bunching in the table now things are starting to settle and Arsenal have unblipped themselves. Newcastle are pretty much the only proper outlier now, otherwise you could throw a handkerchief over 8th to 16th. The dregs are going to have to get a result or two from somewhere or there could be bugger all drama this year.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 October 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

ummm in that gif chesney doesn't touch the cunt

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 29 October 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

But in reality he did.

boxall, Saturday, 29 October 2011 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

What a match, btw. Glad I avoided reading the score since I watched it on 4 hours' delay.

boxall, Saturday, 29 October 2011 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

13Szczesny13 Wojciech Szczesny
I don't know why I stayed on the pitch but WHAT A GAME!! Great spirit, great atmosphere and a great win! RVP needs to start scoring though!!
4 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

loooooooooool bet the fa does him for that, like when they gave english cunt joey barton absolutely fuck all. cos hes furrin.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 29 October 2011 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

what?

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea put up more Barcelona-like passing numbers today: Williams 112/121, Monk 99/104, Allen 83/84, Britton 66/66.

boxall, Saturday, 29 October 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

hoilett

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

indeed

nakhchivan, Saturday, 29 October 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

Handball was pretty tragic

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

Nzonzi was actually crying when the referee gave that, wasn't he?

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 29 October 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

Looked like it

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

"I thought for a second a Wolves player may have tugged Dzeko's shirt" as replay shows Stearman applying a headlock

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 29 October 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

Ref actually looked like he gave Kompany the red cos he pissed him off

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

stearman is a huge part of wolves prob imo, cutprice mertesacker

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

ffs what a goal to concede wolves

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

REMEMBER THE NAME

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

That Petrov goal was rather good.

Collins and Dunne are clearly in charge of all hazings at Villa.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 29 October 2011 22:16 (thirteen years ago)

Wickham reminds me of a young Andy Carroll

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

ya petrov

Lil behind watchin this, nice goal from wickham

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

Form of champions this

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

how's that not a penalty ffs

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

had no idea r gardner was still playin tbh

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

the constant gardner

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

spoiler: he doesn't make it all the way through that one either

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

I remember once a Bradford City fan wrote an article about the various things he loved about the club, contained a line that went something like "Wayne Jacobs, I love you because you will still be our second-choice left-back when you're 52 because you're too slow to ever get injured." I think that's what's doing on with Riccy G.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 29 October 2011 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll came so close to fucking that up

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

wigan are two down here, and it's ridic

interim dn (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 October 2011 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that game didn't deserve the last slot.

Number None, Saturday, 29 October 2011 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

God, Match of the Day is so fucking long these days. Its length has increased at the same rate as the decreasing competitiveness of the Premiership has rendered most of the games of no interest to anyone but the supporters of those teams.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Saturday, 29 October 2011 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno, i'd welcome the length of the programme if they used it to focus on the most interesting games instead of the system of pre-selection

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 00:10 (thirteen years ago)

for all that time tonight, not a shred of analysis.

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago)

Uh anyone else lipreading Terry's goal celebration?

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Sunday, 30 October 2011 00:16 (thirteen years ago)

Looks like something that rhymes with "fucking dog"

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Sunday, 30 October 2011 00:20 (thirteen years ago)

is Terry's goal celebration that one where he threw himself on the floor in the direction of Mecca?

Baobab Galliwasplie (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:12 (thirteen years ago)

and Rapey van P run past him and me and Joel shouted "FINISH HIM"??

Baobab Galliwasplie (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:16 (thirteen years ago)

lip-read Jamie Redknapp earlier saying that fat people should be sterilised

Number None, Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:19 (thirteen years ago)

i watched that bit, shouted "HE's HIS DAD'S SON" iirc

Baobab Galliwasplie (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:20 (thirteen years ago)

<3 berba
http://h7.abload.de/img/berbawuaq.gif

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 30 October 2011 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

I know I'm biased as a Norwich fan, but there are grounds for the ref to give that penalty. Dudes arms were outstretched, in an "unnatural position". Maybe if he played to the whistle instead of protesting for a foul when there's still danger in the box, it wouldn't have happened.

I, personally, don't think it was a penalty but within the rules the ref is justified to give one.

CraigG, Sunday, 30 October 2011 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

i agree with that tbf, tho it's harsh

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

Norwich fan? How did I miss this?! You've been among ILF's top transfer targets for a while now.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 30 October 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

One more time
http://h7.abload.de/img/terryrux4.gif

Number None, Sunday, 30 October 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

i don't think he would have got to that back pass even if he hadn't fallen over tbh. awful from malouda.

pandemic, Sunday, 30 October 2011 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

pushing up and not pressing the ball is fucking bush league. every team seems to play with a high line now and most of them haven't got a clue why.

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

took a nasty skip off a shit surface tbf to both players

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

why are you trying to ruin such a perfect moment with this sudden rationality

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 30 October 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

contrariness

walker/lennon doesn't convince

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

ray wilkins is amazing

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

vdv also

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

can't believe vdv didn't put that chance away

mizzell, Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

good save tbf

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

thats a bad miss

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

wonderful free kick

mizzell, Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

parker took a thump there

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

good so far but want to see lennon gettin up and in, he's nowhere when we break

Also a goal pls

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

there's lennon and a goal

mizzell, Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

perfect

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

dmac for coach imo obvs

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

Pretty sure the ref should have noticed that Gabbidon push on Parker.

Matt DC, Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

need to put this to bed before ht imo, could be four up really

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

adebayor has looked a little off the pace the last few matches. bae putting in great crosses today.

mizzell, Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

adebayor

Goal

has been running the channels lately, but with lennon bale and vdv fit and in form he'll stay central and be involved, and he's shown good touches today

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

great effort on the left there

Vdv lennon swapping over a bit, nice to see the movement

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

565 passes in that move

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

walker and kaboul capable of turning this into a game but parker won't let 'em

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

QPR are shite, can barely remember Friedel having to do anything.

Bale, VDV, Modders and Parker all having a hell of a game.

Matt DC, Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

perhaps a nice time to sort out our goal difference.

ogmor, Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

king bae deserve adding to that tbf

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

ogmor otm!

Go fourth with four nil

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

insane that we're a game and a point off utd

ogmor, Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

Also I think Walker is looking decent, I don't get the hate?

Matt DC, Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

Loving this hubris, guys. Anyone want to throw in a record score prediction?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

hope warnock had a motivational screening of video games

ogmor, Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

welcome norwich fan!

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

accidentally clicked on i love spurs

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

must be so hard to find liverpool fans out there

mizzell, Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

QPR looking much more threatening in the second half, they're piling forward though, reckon we should be able to do them on the break.

Matt DC, Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

racism alert, david pleat just said "clever black flick"

mizzell, Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

hmm, bae marking bothroyd on the line, not a good idea

mizzell, Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

Uh-oh.

Matt DC, Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

Oh my word

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

Can I just apologise for this yesterday?:

Terry fires it in from point black range

― Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:31

I don't what the fuck I was thinking of, but it clearly makes no sense whatsoever. It's bad enough that the black/blind thing had been done to death already, but 'blank' simply isn't one of those two words. It took me a few hours to realise my own idiocy.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

Fandabbiedozie!

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

what a strike. bale again

mizzell, Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

Rah!

Matt DC, Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

lol strange game

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

kenny the diff btwn us and fourth, can't really complain about conceding

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

third poor finish from ade

mizzell, Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

Kenny reminds me of Gomes, alternately calamitous and amazing.

Matt DC, Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

Loving this hubris, guys. Anyone want to throw in a record score prediction?

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:50 (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

accidentally clicked on i love spurs

― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:09 (34 minutes ago) Bookmark

tschhhhh

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

yeah ffs what's the live game lads?

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

vdv wasteful since the hour mark no wonder arry replaces him

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

When he can play like that for the first hour I'm willing to forgive. Should sub him for Defoe in every game though.

Was happy when Sandro came on but wished he'd come on earlier, we looked like we needed shoring up in the second half.

Apparently this is our best ever start to a Premiership season? Frontloading the pain has given us a very kind fixture list for the rest of the season as well, including a run-in against teams who with any luck will be sitting nicely in midtable with nothing to play for.

Matt DC, Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

Was a wobbly start but my impression is you're starting to purr now. I assume noöne regrets throwing the City game in light of what theyve done since. How high do you dare to dream though? Is 2nd, say, remotely feasible?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:34 (thirteen years ago)

2nd isn't remotely feasible. 3rd is probably out as well barring some hilarious self-inflicted crisis at Chelsea.

Matt DC, Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

no, it's not.

Fourth should be expected, tho, if we can keep adebayor and vdv fit. If we do that and can pick from king, gallas and dawson at cb we should be pushing for 3rd. More to come from the flanks than what we've seen before today even if we can't rely on vdv scoring game.

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago)

Also Arsenal probably aren't going to recapture their early season comic form.

Matt DC, Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago)

think arse and chels might well blow hot and cold all season tho

btw is it me or was Torres totally anonymous yesterday?

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

Not just you, he was invisible

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

It's almost like he became the guy his teammates don't want to involve in the play tbh

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal aren't very far back, but they're still no good.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

my repeated comments on torres's anonymity were, apparently, anonymous

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't see those comments D, but maybe I'm black

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

blind, maybe I'm blind, I mean

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal won't get fourth without serious defensive recruitment in jan, more worried about liverpool.

Damn near more worried about newcastle tbh

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

I reckon Stoke will beat Newcastle tomorrow.

I think if I were to pinpoint one thing that separates Spurs this season to last it'd be assurance. In goal, in defensive midfield and in front of goal. Last year I got the sense that not all the team quite trusted one another and we just look a lot more composed this season. Ledley playing most of the games helps as well obviously but it's rubbing off on people like Kaboul as well.

Matt DC, Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

blind, maybe I'm blind, I mean

Think the word you're looking for is 'blank'

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago)

was at my dad's yesterday so didn't read the thread properly re: invisible torres

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago)

torres' most evident decline is in his lack of agility

he is still fast enough in a straight line but he doesn't seem to be able to shift his weight and shimmy around defenders

eto'o has always been great at this, he can get shoved around by huge defenders but seldom loses his balance

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

If Spurs had had three men unjustly sent off in the opening ten minutes I reckon we might have got a point out of that. That said, the third goal should have been disallowed, and all involved in it booked, for conspicious flair and one-touch passing in a confined space. The English game has no room for that kind of filth.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 30 October 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

lennon the only englishman involved tbf

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/dwwDW.jpg

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Sunday, 30 October 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

Why is Terry calling him a "black c***" a big thing? Anton Ferdinand IS black..! Him being called a "c***" is just language frowned upon.
TheNickBurdett 2 minutes ago

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Sunday, 30 October 2011 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

Ugh. Been reading the same "what's wrong with that? Anton is black!" 'argument' for days now. I thought I visited the wrong football websites, but people on all football websites say the same thing...

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 30 October 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

btw matt, walker is 'decent' and is better than decent going forward, but he's been prone to leaving us light at the back. Suppose he'll grow out of that, look at BAE, exceptional at both ends today

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

It's almost like he became the guy his teammates don't want to involve in the play tbh

Sturridge saw a lot of the ball, prob because A Santos was such an obvious liability while the central defenders were solid, and was selfish & wasteful with it. Don't think he's very good on the outside of a front three, would have started Malouda there.

boxall, Sunday, 30 October 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

torres also ran into a lot of hopeless positions tbf

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

Lukaku looked good when he came on i thought

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 23:28 (thirteen years ago)

he did nothing save for the foul on andre santos before mata's goal

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Sunday, 30 October 2011 23:34 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGMNn8gfPC8

god guy mowbray is such a fucking wanker

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Sunday, 30 October 2011 23:37 (thirteen years ago)

xp

nah he was lively and direct, not sure how much contact there was with Santos either, i thought he went over v. easily

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 23:37 (thirteen years ago)

uhm, more than enough to obstruct him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0thuxrI7Pss

he's mostly looked lost for chelsea, tries to take on defenders and just loses the ball

he shouldn't be played on the wing anyway

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Sunday, 30 October 2011 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

Way to pass it directly to a blue shirt under no pressure, André.

boxall, Sunday, 30 October 2011 23:51 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/Ux3xz.jpg

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago)

hope he was doing his 80k A WEEK 80K A WEEK shit just then

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 00:07 (thirteen years ago)

Hate him.

BTW do you think Gervinho's been poor generally, or was your post yesterday immediately after his open-goal miss?

boxall, Monday, 31 October 2011 00:10 (thirteen years ago)

i think he is alright but he does duplicate what walcott offers and i'd like to see more of arshavin in the big games

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 00:14 (thirteen years ago)

arshavin needed competition

Not sure that gervinho "80% pass completion including some assists' is a direct xerox of the boy walcott tbph

interim dn (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

More to come from the flanks than what we've seen before today even if we can't rely on vdv scoring game.

more than two goals from bale and two assists from lennon (could have been three on that one adebayor channce)?

mizzell, Monday, 31 October 2011 00:35 (thirteen years ago)

before, before

We'd been missing it lately imo

interim dn (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 00:37 (thirteen years ago)

lennon's a different playing when he gets away from the white touchline, so dangerous.

interim dn (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 00:38 (thirteen years ago)

Joey7Barton Joseph Barton
What a footballer Luka Modric is, hats off. Best in the league by a mile.

mizzell, Monday, 31 October 2011 00:38 (thirteen years ago)

the lad barton will win me over yet

interim dn (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 00:40 (thirteen years ago)

I don't want to see more of Arshavin in big games. Ok so he was good in a Carling Cup game. BFD.

Gervinho fucking runs at defenders. He gets into the box. It's soooooooooooooooooooooo refreshing. He may not have had the greatest form yet but 'foreigners first six months in a different league' is not a new thing.

Also our defending hasn't stopped us getting into the top 4 for the past couple years, and now Verm is back and Gibbs seems to actually understand positioning. Sucks that Sagna was killed but if it means we play a centre half like kos there who won't always be too high up the pitch like Clichy or Santos or Eboue always were, we could actually address one of our problems.

Basically, I think we should at least make the top 4. Like last season though, I say this in reference to the incompetence to others. An Arsenal that can't defend isn't a new thing; a Chelsea that concedes every game is and they are making up for it by not passing to their sulky forwards who are in terrible form between them (except Sturridge). That and the EBJT race row is small change for Chelsea, there is always a bigger crisis waiting around the corner. Ade and VDV tend to stop giving a fuck once winter comes. For all their greatness, we are pretending like City aren't about to implode any second now - if the Tevez thing is really as bad as it gets, I'll be bloody surprised considering they have the likes of Tevez, Balotelli and Nasri as potential all time dicks, as well as the general 'why the fuck aren't you playing me' bench. Suarez needs better service and partnership. (tbf Utd look alright, unless they end up having to play Evans all season.)

Which actually makes for a quite exciting season. You can presume that City will win the league but there are 30ish games left with potential bombs waiting to explode in every club, with great players v. their own teammates incompetence all over the shop.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 31 October 2011 00:46 (thirteen years ago)

lol gooners

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Monday, 31 October 2011 00:48 (thirteen years ago)

i don't know who any of those arsenal players are, city won't implode, spurs are stronger and liverpool are comin back and i don't think blasé references to being the historical gimp fourth in a now more-than-four horse race are gonna cut it

interim dn (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 00:50 (thirteen years ago)

city
utd
chelsea
spurs
arsenal
liverpool

interim dn (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 00:55 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah. Picking 3-5 is tough but I'd put money now on Liverpool 6th or lower, if I was one for that.

boxall, Monday, 31 October 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago)

i want liverpool and real madrid to do badly and don't care about a lot else this season

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:00 (thirteen years ago)

sam's right about it making for good watching though. Just don't see liverpool breaking down teams well enough to get top 4, and wenger iirc was out only a fortnight ago so i dunno has kieron gibbs solved that all by himself since and tbh i'm p confident spurs will be closer to chelsea than to either of those teams by end of may

interim dn (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:02 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool team is pretty horrible

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:02 (thirteen years ago)

in what way

interim dn (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:03 (thirteen years ago)

mix of players still not making sense to me

interim dn (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:04 (thirteen years ago)

team full of thuggish fairground footballers with one endearing racist adding a morsel of flair

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:06 (thirteen years ago)

don't think suarez is racist tbh but i accept without a poll it's moot at best

interim dn (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:07 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez has to tire eventually with the number of games he's played in 2011. Downing's been unimpressive, Henderson not going to get a proper shot unless Gerrard stays hurt. Vulnerable central defence.

boxall, Monday, 31 October 2011 01:08 (thirteen years ago)

downing as left henderson as right prongs in a carrolk trident, i still believe

interim dn (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:09 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool team is also particularly ugly

Number None, Monday, 31 October 2011 01:10 (thirteen years ago)

just has the look of a st0rmfr0nt convention in halifax, random imported dorks and twitchy psychos bonding uneasily

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:11 (thirteen years ago)

i must say this is all very spurious

interim dn (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:18 (thirteen years ago)

lol

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:22 (thirteen years ago)

iirc our resident liverpool fans were annoyed when u were being spurious this afternoon

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:23 (thirteen years ago)

true

interim dn (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:33 (thirteen years ago)

disregarding spuriousnes for a second, they play shitty football for such an expensive side, a high-functioning versh of o'neill's villa, seldom any subtlety or change of pace

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:38 (thirteen years ago)

pace is a problem for them, after suarez you're looking at the fullbacks to provide any speed, right?

I dunno, just think this year's too soon into the recovery project for top four.

interim dn (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:40 (thirteen years ago)

think they need a better manager to go top 4

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:44 (thirteen years ago)

I guarantee that we will not finish in the top four this season.

Chris, Monday, 31 October 2011 01:44 (thirteen years ago)

(see what I did with the Rafa 'guarantee' quote thing, did ya, did ya?)

Chris, Monday, 31 October 2011 01:47 (thirteen years ago)

idk, i was laying into yall for hyping them six weeks ago, but they still have a reasonable chance of getting to the cl.....35/40% maybe

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:48 (thirteen years ago)

Gerrard's injured again btw.

Chris, Monday, 31 October 2011 01:56 (thirteen years ago)

how do you rate downing, henderson, adam?

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:59 (thirteen years ago)

adam is a shit cunt tbf, slower than metastasis and similarly dangerous

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 02:00 (thirteen years ago)

Downing impressed me early on, but he's gone quiet over the last few games. Adam started poorly with flashes of brilliance, but is getting better and more consistent. Been a few weeks since he shot from the halfway line anyway. I really like the look of Henderson - moves the ball quickly, can play one/two touch. Reckon he's been more effective on the few occasions he's played in the middle, rather than on the right.

Chris, Monday, 31 October 2011 02:08 (thirteen years ago)

Warmed to Adam since he baked a cake on Blue Peter.

Chris, Monday, 31 October 2011 02:09 (thirteen years ago)

henderson is definitely not a winger, he is a sort of energetic combination player who can do a bit of everything

cleverly, milner, ramsey, ramires are the closest likenesses in the other teams

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 02:14 (thirteen years ago)

Would substitute Song for Ramsey, who's starting to look like more just useful. Song clearly can't be expected to stay where he's stationed anyway.

boxall, Monday, 31 October 2011 02:20 (thirteen years ago)

more *than* just useful

boxall, Monday, 31 October 2011 02:20 (thirteen years ago)

ramsey is better than those players but at the moment but not categorically unlike them

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 02:25 (thirteen years ago)

but at the moment

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 02:26 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool team is also particularly ugly

― Number None, Monday, October 31, 2011 2:10 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

just has the look of a st0rmfr0nt convention in halifax, random imported dorks and twitchy psychos bonding uneasily

― Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, October 31, 2011 2:11 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

rofl

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 31 October 2011 07:08 (thirteen years ago)

Holy shit, RVP has actually had to deny Nazi salute allegations. This is getting ridiculous.

Number None, Monday, 31 October 2011 09:12 (thirteen years ago)

Got to say, when he did it, my first reaction was "Why is he giving a Nazi salute?"
Happy to believe he wasn't, but I don't think it's an unfair question.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Monday, 31 October 2011 09:36 (thirteen years ago)

Having just watched it again, he initially does the dirt of your shoulder thing but the subsequent out-thrust arm really is unfortunately Hitler-esque

Number None, Monday, 31 October 2011 09:52 (thirteen years ago)

But when will filthy foreigner Arsene Wenger apologise for being a paedofile?

James Mitchell, Monday, 31 October 2011 09:55 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i did a nazi salute gag at the time but i didn't really think he was doing it

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Monday, 31 October 2011 09:59 (thirteen years ago)

Me too. It's quite bizarre he has to apologise/"explain himself" for this

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 31 October 2011 10:00 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, i posted about it during the match. Can't help feeling in some way responsible

Number None, Monday, 31 October 2011 10:03 (thirteen years ago)

Wait so that song I heard on Saturday wasn't the Arsenal fans singing "there's only one Nazi rapist"? Disappointing.

Matt DC, Monday, 31 October 2011 10:28 (thirteen years ago)

So, considering Chelsea were drawing at the time, did the famously reformed gambler and brave English lion John Terry really slip over or is he now fixing matches to help him pay off his mother's £4mn mortgage?

James Mitchell, Monday, 31 October 2011 10:43 (thirteen years ago)

on his money Terry's finances must be firmly in the blind

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Monday, 31 October 2011 10:55 (thirteen years ago)

"It has been brought to my attention of some ridiculous allegations concerning my celebration of one of my goals yesterday," Van Persie said on Twitter late Sunday.

"It is totally ludicrous to suggest that my action of brushing my shoulder and pointing to my fans could be construed as anything else but of a showing of joy and celebration.

"To suggest this meant anything to the contrary is insulting and absolutely absurd as nothing else came into my mind."

disappointed that he bothered to reply to this drivel

if he had claimed it was a john terry ref that would have been great tho

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

u can tell rvp wants to be liked tho.....always eager in interviews, giving champagne to his teammates, giving away his shirt and bowing to the crowd on saturday

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

Hitler wanted to be liked too

Number None, Monday, 31 October 2011 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

u can tell rvp wants to be liked tho.....always eager in interviews, giving champagne to his teammates, giving away his brown shirt and bowing to the crowd rally on saturday

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 31 October 2011 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

Must be a racist, John Terry kisses the ground he walks on.

James Mitchell, Monday, 31 October 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

no way is RvP a blindshirt

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Monday, 31 October 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago)


"It is totally ludicrous to suggest that my action of brushing my shoulder and pointing to my fans could be construed as anything else but of a showing of joy and celebration.

that's not really denying it though??

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 31 October 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

Is RVP a muslim? I thought that was why he gave away the champagne? I'm probably wrong tho.

pandemic, Monday, 31 October 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

His wife is. Not sure he's religious.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Monday, 31 October 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

"It's not true. I am not a Muslim, nor a Christian or a Jew. I have been raised liberally. If you want to become a Muslim it should come from the heart. I would not do it just to please my wife. To believe for me is a quest for being a good man."

Number None, Monday, 31 October 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

idg how brushing your shoulder ends up with your arm extended in what looks very much like a nazi salute

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Monday, 31 October 2011 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

oh christ pls dont let's do this

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

Shoulder brush:
http://ompldr.org/vMzB1bA/obama-shoulder-brush.jpg.gif

RVP salute
http://cultureofsoccer.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/di_canio_salute.jpg

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Monday, 31 October 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

this is now the lead story in the daily mail oy vey

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

Well if anyone would know about Nazis it would the Daily Mail

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 31 October 2011 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, they often brushed dust off their shoulders in the 1930s.

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Monday, 31 October 2011 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

those crazy nazi dutch

interim dn (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, you'd never see Geert Wilders brushing dust off his shoulder

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 31 October 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

wilders is a troublemaker but he isn't remotely a nazi

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

Oh he's a nazi alright, he just replaced jews with muslims tbh

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 31 October 2011 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

who does g.neville's research for his monday night tactics breakdowns?

he's kinda charmless w/an annoying voice but he's actually not bad on tactics

cozen, Monday, 31 October 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

neville is perturbingly otm on occasion

tbf to Geert Wilders, you can be a racist hatemonger without being a Nazi

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Monday, 31 October 2011 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

neville is....good, i think most agree

the jew/muslim substitution isn't capable of being made, the former being far more ethno- than religious from a nazi pov

it's bad rhetoric to call people nazis unless they are nazis

or john terry

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

tbf to Geert Wilders, you can be a racist hatemonger without being a Nazi

― Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Monday, October 31, 2011 8:35 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah I know, I was trolling. Racist he most definitely is.

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 31 October 2011 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

the whole 'let the fa take their time' thing nult is saying is a load of mendacious shite, pretty much an invitation to whitewash

the fa desparately waiting for the news cycle to pass but at least anton ferdinand seems pretty clear now....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15528032.stm

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

You have to wonder what there is to investigate. They have the video, they can talk to the dozen or so people who were within earshot in a matter of days, i'd have thought.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Monday, 31 October 2011 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

getting them to agree on the story is the hard part tbh

occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

totally xp

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't see Neville's analysis, what was he talking about?

Chris, Monday, 31 October 2011 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

caught a touch of him pointing out that rooney's moved up into midfield, unconvincing

occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

wayne rooney is a united legend tho

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

(Obertan cross, nice backward-leaning header from Ba, Newcastle 1-0)

boxall, Monday, 31 October 2011 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

Shawcross off injured inside 20', possibly after a challenge with supposed ticking time bomb Ba - really enjoying this match.

boxall, Monday, 31 October 2011 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

university challenge is p good tonight tbh

occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney did play in midfield on the weekend.

Number None, Monday, 31 October 2011 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

Norwich fan? How did I miss this?! You've been among ILF's top transfer targets for a while now.

Heh, yeah, I kind of just lurk on the football threads, and ILE in general. I'm mostly just on ILG. Also, these football threads move too fast for me; miss a weekend and there's hundreds more posts! Have to admit, I didn't even know there was a board for the football, as I don't normally scroll down the boards list that far. Anyway.

I reckon Norwich will be near the top of the bottom half by Christmas, and testing my loyalty by the end of the season, but I'm enjoying it while we're on-track for the 40+ points target for relegation safety. After watching how quickly the big boys can turn a season around (Arsenal this year, Liverpool to a degree last year) when it's this tight, I feel like we're always going to balancing on the edge of a dramatic fall from grace.

Newcastle Stoke game kinda boring so far. Reckon Newcastle will hold the win now though. Demba Ba just won't stop scoring, eh?

CraigG, Monday, 31 October 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

pulis rejected ba saying his injury record was a timebomb or something

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Monday, 31 October 2011 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

ffs can we get back to spurs pls

occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

Good to have you on board, Craig. I appreciate that it takes time to get acclimatised but we're looking for you to push on now and post day-in-day-out. And no need to worry about keeping up, obv, mostly it's just a big mancrush on John Terry.

Serious question though: how has Lambert managed to put together a crack outfit basically from park players?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 31 October 2011 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

because coaching is easy while they still want it cf ipswich hull etc

occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

I just assumed he (or at least his scouting staff) plays far too much Football Manager, and therefor know all these random cheap dudes from Brighton and Hove, with flagging careers, that somehow are up to scratch.

CraigG, Monday, 31 October 2011 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

nah fm coaches have a history of sucking (hey sven).

a hoy hoy, Monday, 31 October 2011 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

i am thinking of doing a 'best player to watch in the league rite now' poll of ten players. ba, silva, rvi, aguero, supermario, mata, suarez and....? all about current form, so is modric worth including? cabaye maybe? gervinho? some utd dullard i guess? j beezy?

a hoy hoy, Monday, 31 October 2011 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

You forgot Sturridge.

James Mitchell, Monday, 31 October 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

where is he these days?

a hoy hoy, Monday, 31 October 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

Silva, RVP, Suarez, Hernandez, Mata, van der Vaart, Cabaye, that Swansea Silkworm guy, Nigel Reo-Coker

Ismael Klata, Monday, 31 October 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

modric parker from our bunch

occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

^ Chicharito is great to watch, makes far more intelligent runs than just those where he actually receives the ball.

Leon Britton rather boring I think, that's his role. Parker also excellent in his role but dull.

Seamus Coleman was exciting Saturday. Also Drenthe, Hoolahan, Dempsey.

boxall, Monday, 31 October 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

Drenthe is looking the player he should have been when Real bought him: half decent.

I always forget Lil Pea exists. Wonder why.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 31 October 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

that's how he gets you

Number None, Monday, 31 October 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

Silva's been a class apart all season - it would be unfair on the others to include him.

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Monday, 31 October 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

crouch, never been great.

Summer Slam! (Ste), Monday, 31 October 2011 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

That clip from Goodison late last season where Silva killed a garryowen stone-dead and the whole crowd went 'ooh!' - I kept that saved on my BT Vision box for months.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 31 October 2011 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

Silva may be hands down the best player but this isn't about class or talent

a hoy hoy, Monday, 31 October 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

nothing boring about parker tackling three players in a row and winning cf yesterday

occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

Just seen last night's result.

What kind of world do we live in where Newcastle can be third in the league? Society is in the gutter etc

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

still hoping that it's a kind fixture and injury list and nothing more, otherwise i really do fear for wenger and kenny

occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

Nice to see that the 2hr re-run of Monday Night Football Sky showed this morning was 1 1/2 hrs of GNev talking tactics, 15mins of the game, 15mins of player/manager interviews. GNev was great, Stoke are unwatchable.

pandemic, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

What kind of world do we live in where Newcastle can be third in the league? Society is in the gutter etc

― Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 11:54 (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

It is p amazing how well the likes of Tiote, Obertan, Cabaye and Ba have come together, not to mention Ben Arfa has yet to become a first team player yet.

More importantly though, Ashley is nowhere in the papers and Barton, Nolan and Carroll have fucked off, meaning the atmosphere at the club must be so un-newcastle like.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 12:20 (thirteen years ago)

Obertan is still pretty shit, ditto Leon Best who is becoming this year's classic 15-goals-off-the-arse striker.

Cabaye and Ba are very good though. Think they're running on momentum a bit and they haven't had to play anyone particularly difficult yet (other than Spurs who should have beaten them, and Arsenal, who we've established were shit).

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

still hoping that it's a kind fixture and injury list and nothing more, otherwise i really do fear for wenger and kenny

Number of big* six (Man U, Man C, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs) faced in league so far: 2 - draws with Spurs and Arsenal, both at home.

3 of their next 4 fixtures are away at both Manchester clubs then Chelsea at home. Might be a more realistic looking table after that.

*when if ever etc

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

Police are making inquiries into racist abuse directed at the Newcastle United striker Sammy Ameobi on Twitter. A tweet posted by a user called @JonnnnyPhipps on Sunday said: "@Sammy_Ameobi your hand is nearly the same colour. #nigger".

In response a statement on Newcastle United's official website said: "The racist comment is wholly unacceptable. Newcastle United will not tolerate racism of any kind and will take the strongest possible action against those responsible."

Sammy, 19, is the younger brother of the former England under-21 striker Shola Ameobi, 30, who has played for Newcastle all his career.

A spokeswoman for Northumbria Police said: "The matter was reported to police on Sunday. Police are investigating."

Meanwhile, the Queens Park Rangers defender Anton Ferdinand has also been targeted with racist abuse via his Twitter account. One tweet said: "RT this you fucking BLACK CUNT, 1 England captain" in support of John Terry, to which Ferdinand re-posted another message in response which read: "More proof of JT leading his moronic fans by example."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/01/sammy-ameobi-racist-abuse-twitter

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

it is fucking horrible any time someone racially abuses someone but fuck if it took shola amoebi for the police to notice that people on the internet are racist fucks. they should head to a wrestling message board some time.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

Shit, just read that Jonathon Wilson piece about the Steau player being rendered deaf in one ear after a 'fan' ran onto the pitch and punched him round the side of the head :(

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/nov/01/petrolul-steaua-bucharest-romania-ultras

pandemic, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

Cabaye and Ba are very good though.

In different and complementary ways

Muammar for the road (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

that bucharest shit was just fuckin ..... saw the footage on ssn

occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

was kind of thinking about starting a thread about that one, but I didn't know what to call it... could ILF use an "ultras" thread?

bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

"batshit crazy violent" ultras

bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

Hooli-hooli-hooligans thread

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

crowd scenes- did we have a few brazilian craziness posts in a thread before?

occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

You may call Arsenal supporting Waitrose shoppers the worst but sadly you are rong: Ultras in the modern game

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

should be hooligans not ultras no?

mizzell, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

how about:

Ultras and Hooligans and Lazio fans in general are the scum of the earth: 'Supporters' in the modern game

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

the behaviour of ultras differs in different countries and even between teams in countries, a bit of boxing is an integral part of the thing in many places, however i would still say that in general ultras and other active supporters > the theatre crowd.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

also it's the modern game that's the problem more than the support in general.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

ok well i was thinking that a rolling thread may work better if left open, as opposed to just starting a thread once a month that will get 12 posts but whateverz

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

Ultras thread's a good idea imo, ILF opprobrium can't be weaker than a Uefa sanction. Also lots of ultras do cool things, a bit of compare-and-contrast can make pariahs of these goons.

Let dan pick the title though, eh? I'm still reeling from that belguim fiasco.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

aw man I am terrible with the thread titles

bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

Is is about a mentality or just being mental? A thread about ultras and other active football supporters.

bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

‘His family are now living in England, so he's quite happy and settled,’ said Joorabchian in the Daily Mirror.

‘He had some problems about being away from them before, but they are with him now and everything is fine.

‘He'd be happy to move to another Premier League club.

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/880359-carlos-tevez-open-to-spurs-or-arsenal-switch-says-kia-joorabchian#ixzz1cUh603CF

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

lol

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger breaking the bank for Tevez.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

pink porcelain fragments lying on a lushly carpeted floor, his children's eyes glistening wetly, accusing, beseeching

occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

Ramsey, Arteta, Yossi, Theo, Chamakh, Carlos Tevez

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

Tevez has a bit too much commitment, character and backbone to play for Arsenal.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 23:13 (thirteen years ago)

backbone?

occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

we have plenty of backbones! although they are often broken and in need of repair

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 23:23 (thirteen years ago)

Confirmation that police were starting an inquiry that could yet end in criminal proceedings was delivered shortly before Chelsea were held to a surprise 1-1 Champions League draw against Genk on Tuesday night. It was a game in which Terry was an unused substitute and it was marred by chants from sections of the travelling support.

Some among the 1,100 visiting fans were heard chorusing: "We know what you are, we know what you are. Anton Ferdinand, we know what you are."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/01/police-john-terry-anton-ferdinand

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 07:52 (thirteen years ago)

thought crime?

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 10:52 (thirteen years ago)

I meant moral backbone.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 11:00 (thirteen years ago)

i know.

what do they know he is? a blind cunt?

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

What can the FA do if it isn't a case of blind and white?

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

engage in some pointless posturing?

Number None, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

It's a blind day for the fight against racism in sport

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

Richard Chartres, the Bishop of London, was formerly Bishop of Stepney, which would make him a natural ecclesiastical Hammer.

Is it possible this has caused him to change his name by deed poll this season?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/nov/01/st-pauls-seeks-new-direction

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/02/tottenham-harry-redknapp-heart-surgery

Number None, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

Must have received a tax bill.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

Or just realised he's one step closer to the England job

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

He was bigging up Neil Warnock for the job yesterday, he's that confident

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

He's getting desperate, premiership managers all Glaswegian or even more foreign

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

http://isjohnterryaracist.com/

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

https://twitter.com/#!/edchatham/status/131742398727467009

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

Phil Jones a headed block away from a wonder goal. He's been good

Number None, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

I was wondering what became of that guy

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

On the Goals On Sunday programme on 6 September 2009, Breen revealed that he had agreed to move to Inter Milan after the 2002 World Cup, but failed a medical.[6] Breen had also been linked with a move to Barcelona.[7] Breen left Barnet in June 2010.[8]

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

Wayne Rooney’s record £5million five-book deal with HarperCollins is the subject of much discussion at the publishers, who are considering a revamp of the troubled contract.

The second autobiography in the series has already been postponed once following England’s dismal 2010 World Cup. Plans to bring out the book either before or after Euro 2012 are also on the back burner, with Rooney suspended from the group stage of the tournament.

With football life stories not selling well, there are doubts whether a big enough market exists for at least three more Rooney memoirs.

This has led to talks on how the 12-year contract, signed in 2006, could be re-configured.

HarperCollins, who have new sports book management, are also discussing the most suitable publishing strategy for John Terry’s autobiography, for which a seven-figure advance has been paid.

The book was originally due in the shops after the 2010 World Cup and the current racism allegation will only add to the sensitivity around a publication date.

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 November 2011 01:08 (thirteen years ago)

lols all around

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 3 November 2011 01:21 (thirteen years ago)

Watching Steve Kean on SSN just now - he's still gauging his popularity on how many fans *aren't* holding up KEAN OUT banners :)

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Thursday, 3 November 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

He's going to love it now they've banned them at Ewood

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 3 November 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

this is how mugabe started out

blind pele (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 November 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/nov/04/manchester-united-xi-alex-ferguson-era

It is difficult to think of Old Trafford as a place for featureless footballers

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Friday, 4 November 2011 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

im not saying he should be in that team but dwight yorke was awes for a fair few seasons and is seldom mentioned these days even tho THE GREAT OLD ONES OF THE PREMIERSHIPPE are habitually overcommemorated

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Friday, 4 November 2011 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

if it wasnt for his amiably phoned in appearances on sky, nobody would attest to his existence

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Friday, 4 November 2011 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

The guy from ZonalMarking has been arguing for Cole-York up front in a Ferguson-era XI, as an actual partnership that worked well, whereas Cantona & Ruud is hypothetical and potentially a disaster.

boxall, Friday, 4 November 2011 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

Yorke*

boxall, Friday, 4 November 2011 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

(xxxp) He was great, but only for a couple of years, and there have been lots of great attacking players at United in the last 25 years. If you choose a 'Best XI' for that period then for nearly every position there's going to be someone very good who gets left out. Except goalkeeper, where Schmeichel is about a million miles ahead of the competition.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 4 November 2011 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

were cole/yorke playing in the 3-3 at the Nou? Was there a 3-3 at the Nou Camp or have I imagined that?

pandemic, Friday, 4 November 2011 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

I like the way Yorkey occasionally alludes to some insider Utd knowledge during his Sky Sports appearances. Like he just lurks around the training ground and they don't have the heart to tell him to leave

Number None, Friday, 4 November 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

While we're on the Ferguson subject, I like the Duxbury quote in this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2057073/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-25-years-Best-Manchester-United-signings.html

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 4 November 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

were cole/yorke playing in the 3-3 at the Nou? Was there a 3-3 at the Nou Camp or have I imagined that?

Fuck yeah - that was *the* Cole-Yorke game with *the* Cole-Yorke goal

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 4 November 2011 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

yorke was great for his last few seasons at villa too

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Friday, 4 November 2011 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

Yorke got a brace in the 3-3 and Cole got the other one

Number None, Friday, 4 November 2011 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63JVAFcxaGY

boxall, Friday, 4 November 2011 23:02 (thirteen years ago)

The guy from ZonalMarking has been arguing for Cole-York up front in a Ferguson-era XI, as an actual partnership that worked well, whereas Cantona & Ruud is hypothetical and potentially a disaster.

― boxall, Friday, 4 November 2011 22:56 (3 minutes ago

have we talked about zm

it's a good site and completely admirable but i wouldn't want to read it that often cuz he is duty bound to find some WELL, ACTUALLY bit of sophistry every week

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Friday, 4 November 2011 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

That Ferg-era XI is pretty much OTM. You can't have Cole or Yorke individually so they both have to lose out

Number None, Friday, 4 November 2011 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

That was a great game iirc. Rivaldo was fantastic!!

pandemic, Friday, 4 November 2011 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

xp

pandemic, Friday, 4 November 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

i was pleasantly surprised he chose rvn over he who shall not be mentioned

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Friday, 4 November 2011 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

Just looked up the team sheets from the 1999 Barca/Utd game and Xavi was playing apparently. Have no memory of him at all.

pandemic, Friday, 4 November 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

some WELL, ACTUALLY bit of sophistry every week

I only read the pieces on matches I haven't seen, which tend to be the more obscure ones. Can't say I've noticed this too much. Or are you referring to his FW persona?

boxall, Friday, 4 November 2011 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

that was xavi's breakout season iirc xp

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Friday, 4 November 2011 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

Xavi was covering for injured Guardiola

Number None, Friday, 4 November 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

I saw that game (Barcelona v United 98) 'as live' in a bar in Italy, i.e. they showed the whole match from about 10pm, after they'd shown Inter or Juve or someone actually live. I had no idea what the score had been (as I'd been working, and didn't have a mobile phone or internet access, or know anyone else interested in football, or speak much Italian) so I was jumping around celebrating each time United scored. One guy kept gesturing to me each time - in retrospect I think he was trying to say "don't get carried away - you still end up drawing", but at the time I thought it might mean "English pig - I will kill you." To be fair, there are a *lot* of gestures in Italian and it takes a while to learn them.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 4 November 2011 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

boxall -- i was thinking of this week's 'stoke's home form isn't that great' challops on twitter

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Friday, 4 November 2011 23:11 (thirteen years ago)

That Ferg-era XI is pretty much OTM

I'm sure I did my Best XI somewhere on ILX, but it might have been Prem-era rather than Ferg-era. IIRC it was a thread on ILF - I think I started it - for people to choose their Best XIs for their club. I can't find the thread, though, or remember any key words in its name.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 4 November 2011 23:18 (thirteen years ago)

Paul Scholes believes Ryan Giggs could be the man to take over from Ferguson. Scholes said: ‘People have talked about Mourinho. It can change very quickly — it’s about who is successful at the time. I doesn’t matter if they are British or foreign, you just want the best man for the job. I could see Ryan Giggs becoming manager.’

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Friday, 4 November 2011 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

so was it much different? I'd probably try to find a way to shoehorn Beckham in there. For free-kicks alone xpost

Number None, Friday, 4 November 2011 23:20 (thirteen years ago)

I can't remember. I think I did two versions because someone complained about my original formation or something. Must find thread....

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 4 November 2011 23:21 (thirteen years ago)

Found it in the sandbox:

I can't? He got 40-odd goals the other season. How about 4-2-3-1:

Keane
Ince

Giggs
Cantona
Ronaldo

RVN

This means no Beckham, but maybe I can live with that better than leaving out Cantona.

― Death and Taxis (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 4 February 2011 11:41 (9 months ago)

boxall, Friday, 4 November 2011 23:21 (thirteen years ago)

A club-by-club best XI during the Premier League era

boxall, Friday, 4 November 2011 23:22 (thirteen years ago)

Can't live with no Cantona

Number None, Friday, 4 November 2011 23:23 (thirteen years ago)

rooney rvn cron
veron
scholes keane
irwin vidic stam parker
carroll

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Friday, 4 November 2011 23:23 (thirteen years ago)

(xp) Cheers! So my first version was:

Schmeichel (there's not really any doubt about this one)

Evra (though a lot of people would go for Irwin)
Vidic
Ferdinand (this has probably been the best partnership, though probably one of them should be replaced by Stam)
G Neville

Giggs
Keane (again, I don't think anyone would question this one)
Scholes (ahead of Ince who might be too similar to Keane)
Beckham (for the crosses and combination with G Nev down the right)

Ronaldo
Van Nistelrooy

Sorry Eric!

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 4 November 2011 23:24 (thirteen years ago)

Best thing is you have Solskjaer on the bench of any Utd dream team

Number None, Friday, 4 November 2011 23:25 (thirteen years ago)

henry
bergkamp
pires fabregas vieira overmars
cole campbell adams sagna
seaman

vs

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Friday, 4 November 2011 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

I miss proper Utd - Arsenal games

Number None, Friday, 4 November 2011 23:30 (thirteen years ago)

PICKING ON GARY NEVILLE? I'LL SEE YOU OUT THERE

Number None, Friday, 4 November 2011 23:31 (thirteen years ago)

rooney ffs

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 02:20 (thirteen years ago)

in that formation, fortune bellion and blomquist ahead of him

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 02:21 (thirteen years ago)


Peter
Rooney Staam Pallister Irwin
Fletcher
Robson Veron
Cronaldo Konchelskis
Cantona

imo.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 07:47 (thirteen years ago)

Kanchelskis played on the right and Pallister wasn't that good

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 5 November 2011 08:41 (thirteen years ago)

you seem to have put fletcher in there fyi.

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 10:09 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah the Fletcher inclusion is a maverick decision to say the least. There's this guy called Roy Keane...

Number None, Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:23 (thirteen years ago)

And Veron may have been a fucking great player but he had about five good games for Utd

Number None, Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:24 (thirteen years ago)

was gonna mention that. no Keane is world class challopery tbf

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:24 (thirteen years ago)

In the most recent batch of newspaper/celeb best-of-prems (can't remember what prompted them, 19th anniversary of the brave new era or somesuch) Keane was nowhere to be found. He'd be my top guy I think.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:26 (thirteen years ago)

Keane or Schmeichel 1st and 2nd, Cron and possibly Cantona 3rd or 4th

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:27 (thirteen years ago)

right, think i've done this but


Schmeichel

Neville Stam Ferdinand Irwin

Beckham Keane Scholes Ronaldo

Cantona Van Nistelrooy

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:27 (thirteen years ago)

as individuals, like

if you were under onus to put the into a working team then i'd prob just go with the first choice xi in 99

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

looks about right, maybe push Cron forward into a 4-3-3ish shape

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

cron cantona would p much go where they wanted tbf- not sure they'd work together (or even rvn with cantona) irl

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:33 (thirteen years ago)

we've all done our 90's or prem-era teams tho, right

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:35 (thirteen years ago)


eh

Carr King Campbell Bale shut up

Fuck knows

Anderton Modric Ginola

Van der Vaart
Sheringham

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:39 (thirteen years ago)

Team would get through about two games before losing half its players

Number None, Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

could throw in parker, sandro or even palacios for that one year, all streets ahead of any nominal holding midfielder we had going back to freund, who had the perfect mindset but was unfortunately shit.

No keane- harsh, tbf, no gazza- i'm not english, i'm not old, open to correction on that tbf, no chrissy armstrong and yeah bale at lb fu

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:42 (thirteen years ago)

it is a little injury prone hmmmm?

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:42 (thirteen years ago)

Anderton not so much injury-prone as doughnut-prone.

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, that's why they nicknamed him doughnote iirc

Number None, Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

anderton is a prince, a prince i tell you

carr-anderton was a thing of fuckin beauty for that five match span where one wasn't fucked and the other wasn't couldn't-be-fucked

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

saw Anderton for the Wolves at KC Stadium one time and for the first 5 minutes i thought a weather balloon had blown onto the pitch

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

look this won't be borne, i won't have it

Darren Anderton sans injury means Beckham never happens

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

Gascoigne's not an English thing I don't think, but he left in 91 iirc anyway. You want Sheringham-Berbatov up front imo, that'd be an exquisite frontline.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 November 2011 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

too exquisite, tbh.

Berba-keane partnership dislodges any individual pair, tho- that much is true

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

Make it a front three by adding in Klinsi and ooh la la. Carlos Kickaball a surprisingly strong shout for that DM role.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 November 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

shit, jurgen's my fave put him in for vdv i'm hungover you'll forgive me

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

kickaball ref lost me entirely tbh

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

It was Sugar's way of dismissing pricey foreigners as not the way forward - it may actually have been prompted by Klinsmann's leaving, can't recall right now.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 November 2011 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

tbf at the time if it wasn't on teletext then it wasn't reaching me

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

"Old Trafford is ready for a silver anniversary party to celebrate Sir Alex Ferguson's reign at Manchester United. A giant banner is snaking its way along the Stretford End reading "Sir Alex 25 Years - The Impossible Dream Made Possible." Ferguson will want to focus on starting his 26th year with a Premier League victory. Sunderland manager Steve Bruce played his part in Ferguson's success story as a United captain, but he will be hoping to spoil the party today."

Not only an idiot but a liar, eh Nult?

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

lol at you guys looking at a xi that actually had rooney at rb, thought 'well sure' and then wondered why i wasn't 100% srs with my other choices

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

He's in midfield again btw.

Number None, Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

Not only an idiot but a liar, eh Nult?

?

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

Steve Bruce played his part in Ferguson's success story as a United captain, but he will be hoping to spoil the party today

I assume

Number None, Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

just the last bit

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

Are you still pissed?

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

nah this is righteous

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

you raise an interesting idea tho

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

isn't there a special mat at ot for bruce to roll over and get his belly tickled

sam- rooney at rb is a popular meme, fletcher > keane is an unpopular lie

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

rooney will finish his utd career at sweeper

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

next may

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

lol

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

Newcastle are about to go second in the league. In November.

Deems I never had you pegged as and Anderton fan but not making a place for Klinsmann in that XI hurts me in my heart.

Matt DC, Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

So, Newcastle up to second place with a win at home in front of 50,000-odd crowd. I bet Andy Carroll wishes he could join a club like that.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

andy carroll seems a bit slow-witted afaict, as long as he gets paid i doubt he really cares

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

more importantly they are only 15 points away from the 40-safety-point (lol pardew gotta come at some point.)

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

What?!

Liverpool will also hit second at some point between new year and Easter.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

still haven't played any good teams though

i guess man u - sunderland is the game to watch this afternoon?

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

No 50,000 crowd tho. Also no Carra today. Hurrah!! *awaits 2-0 pasting by Swansea*
xp

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

This rooney in MF madness MUST stop!!

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

stunning insight from barry horne - "brendan rodgers will have told his team to gout there and try"

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

go out

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

that one thing is sure, the man will have told his men to try

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

"Roy Hodgson - a wanker" My ?Portuguese? commentator, 2011.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll misses from 3 yards out!!!

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

LFC killing it down the left so far

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

a lock for 2nd

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

i feel so much calmer with tommy v in the team

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

a lock for 2nd

back in your box arsenal fan

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

10 mins first free kick. lucas foul ;) LJ's boy Leon Britton yet to misplace a pass.

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool are breaking records for hitting the woodwork this year, it's incredibly frustrating.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

Hey I didn't say we'd finish second. I suspect Utd will pip us on goal difference.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool are breaking records for hitting the woodwork this year, it's incredibly frustrating.

― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:13 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wait you signed rvi?

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

loads of really interesting alex ferguson stories around today btw...v entertaining stuff, you'd have feared it could descend into incredibly tedious platitude after even more tedious platitude but amazingly it hasn't.

for instance i found this article challenged me a lot:

Ferguson the best - Van Der Sar

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

Van Der Sar the best - Nobody

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

Van Der Sar actually shit - Local Garda

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

ok that ramsey pass would have made iniesta proud.

1-0 rvi.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

one man team

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

tbf matt i put jurgen in when i was reminded about him, which is embarrassing

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

lucas with terrible headed effort from 6 yards out

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

ok so i type in 'robin van persie hits woodwork' and get this, presumably made by someone with genuine mental disabilities...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJnJRAMm5E0

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

genuine lol abilities

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

great free kick by Anthony Pilkington after a needless foul by Alan Hutton, who is not a footballer

MPx4A, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

commentator guy "that's been a popular tactic for Liverpool so far, the pump up to Carroll"

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

Funny that van der sar's Juventus and Fulham years yielded precisely the same honours.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

reina with amazing save. routledge playing annoyingly well also

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

vorn denies suarez

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

United have finally managed a shot

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

1-1 at VP, Agbonlahor and Bent would be a pretty promising partnership in a team that isn't otherwise shit

MPx4A, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

Emile Heskey is just

I mean he's

MPx4A, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

He's playing left midfield

MPx4A, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

and he's playing really well

MPx4A, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

some real dignified, unhurried stuff from the big man

MPx4A, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

...

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

we're still a bunch of fouling bastards though

MPx4A, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

leon britton just gave the ball away. Overrated.

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

hey even xavi gives the ball away twice a season

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

peno imo

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

Swanselona.

Chris, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

he may be shit in every other way but god damn if jenkinson isn't the first arsenal player since cashley who can cross the ball.

tommy v! <3

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

i'm struggling to believe that routledge is this good tbh

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

Anon via text: "25 years ago today, when Alex Ferguson took over at Manchester United the bottom 4 clubs were Chelsea, Man united, Newcastle United, and Man City.

interesting if true

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

Missed the first 20 mins, but this has been pretty crap fare from Liverpool.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

the first 20 mins was our best period. Carroll with the best chance, Reina with the best save.

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

Even game.

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

every time johnson gets forward it's centrally for some bizarre reason rather than down the right.

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

interesting if true

Probably is true: I know United and City were in the bottom four, not sure about the other two

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

it was a one-line from Futurama but yeah i'm assuming it's true

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

AScooley on Twitter: "A plane has flown over Ewood park with a banner saying "STEVE KEAN OUT" ...You have got to feel sorry for the bloke."

man ppl really dislike this chicken

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

Wellbeck / OG puts United ahead in injury time after a shite first half performance. Steve Bruce will be livid.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

Brown og you say?

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

NOTEBOOKS OUT, CONSPIRACY THEORISTS

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

What a shit game. Thanks Agent Brown

Number None, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

I hope Kean doesn't go, EPL badly needs this running lol.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

^^^

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

i hope the venky's guys don't realise you can sack the manager

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

I guess they've already set 7-1 as the trigger point for formal procedures

MPx4A, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

Vorm's got a lovely right foot.

Chris, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

Actually if Kean out means Shearer in, I might reconsider.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

Shearer certainly has the experience to take Blackburn back to where they belong

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

Shearer-Le Saux partnership for max lols.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea!

Chris, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

things in football that dont seem right even though they are factz pt. 649

Former England international Danny Mills is at Old Trafford for BBC Radio 5 live

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

Would love to see Steve Bruce's record against Utd.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

Mills won loads of caps. Reference to 'former England man Andy Johnson' shocked me in midweek though.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

Always enjoy 'former England International Zat Knight' cheers Sven

MPx4A, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

Bruce has never won against Utd as manager

Number None, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

Would love to see Steve Bruce's record against Utd

I expect it would consist largely of defeats, seeing as he was in charge of Birmingham and Wigan who were desperately fighting relegation most of the time and now a mediocre Sunderland team, while United were winning title after title. Similarly, I expect his record against Chelsea hasn't been very good, while United's record against, say West Brom or Charlton is probably pretty good.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

swansea cranking up the pressure

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

reina gets lucky/good. LFC on the ropes.

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

Agbonlahor's now set up two goals for D Bent and scored one himself

MPx4A, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

shit

Chris, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

reina gets lucky/good AGAIN!

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

suarez's first touch has been poor today

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

Even when the odds are against them (Swansea), they still seem to get their foot to the ball and knock it on to a team mate. Remarkable stuff.

Chris, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

1621: Deary me, that is awful! Blackburn - again - are left to rue some poor finishing as Grant Hanley is presented with an open goal as Petr Cech can only parry Morten Gamst Pedersen's free-kick, but the youngster contrives to fire straight at the prostrate Chelsea keeper. Ellery Hanley would have scored that, I think.

one day someone will teach the bbc that they do not need to put in every detail they can think of in just one sentence and then that they don't need a shitty punchline for the next, a lot more precise sentence. minds will be blown.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

getting penned in at the Kop end!

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

dowd gives a free kick that wasn't but as he gives it it should be a pen cos inside the box

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

Jenas, in a Villa shirt, it looks kinda wrong

MPx4A, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

This isn't good. Swansea unlucky not to have a penalty there.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

LFC getting straight murdered in midfield 2nd half.

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

Think we need to take a striker off tbh and get an extra man in MF

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

United (finally) all over Sunderland, but can't get a second goal

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

Arteta, blimey.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

2nd half possession - 57% Swansea.

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

Indonesian betting syndicates turning off the lights at the Emirates.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

Either that or Wenger's found a new way to save money.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

Routledge has been great hasn't he.

Chris, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

man if we didnt fuck up the start of the season, we are playing with that recent-utd-esque boring winning mentality that wins shit. and in november!

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal could go ahead of us today. for shame.

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

If Wenger doesn't win the FIFA Manager of the Year title now I don't know when

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

Controversy at Old Trafford! Moments after Javier Hernandez has a header cleared off the line, Sunderland are awarded a penalty at the other end when Phil Jones is adjudged by the linesman to have handled Sebastian Larsson's cross. However, after a moment's consultation with Sir Alex, referee Lee Mason over-rules his assistant and overturns his decision - no penalty.

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

It really wasn't a penalty, though.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

Think we had November in September this year.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

Cripes, Sunderland nearly equalise

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

Think we had November in September this year.

― James Mitchell, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:37 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

global warming messing up betting slips across the country

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

free kick LFc 20 yards out

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

deflected over

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

Adam's corners have been shit today

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

what a chance for swansea!

Chris, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

awesome block by agger to prevent a certain goal!!

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

actually not a block, a skied effort

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

Kuyt Goal! Offside! Fuck!

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

Vorn great save from suarez!!

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

save!

Chris, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

Another ridiculous save!!!!!!!!!!!!

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

what a game

Chris, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

Enrique wastes a great opportunity.

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

0-0 FT. Fuck!! Great game tho.

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll you wasteful prick!

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

How apt that Swansea see out the game by playing the kind of pass and move football that Shankly would have been proud of. Amazing.

Chris, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney MOTM. I still don't like it

Number None, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

surely shd have gone to OG

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

the commentators on setanta are mongs, meyler clattered TWP but was praised cuz he got the ball (just about) in the process, then 'cattermole will have been disappointed not to have got one of them in today'

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

That was Brian Little

Number None, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

exactly

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

did shankly's team play beautiful pass and move chris? i've never heard his name invoked when talking abt the beautiful game, just the smart tactical&training game

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

b-lits was the last white person english manager to win the FA cup iirc? or something, maybe coca cola cup, fuck it who gives a shit

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

No, but the philosophy he talked about, the way he wanted Liverpool to play.

“We realised at Liverpool that you can’t score a goal every time you get the ball. And we learned this from Europe, from the Latin people. When they play the ball from the back they play in little groups. The pattern of the opposition changes as they change. This leaves room for players like Ray Kennedy and Terry McDermott, who both played for Liverpool after I left, to sneak in for the final pass. So it’s cat and mouse for a while waiting for an opening to appear before the final ball is let loose. It’s simple and it’s effective."

Chris, Saturday, 5 November 2011 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

the Latin people

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

l-r: Sammy Lee, Bob Paisley, Joe Fagan

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

The table on the beeb site doesn't reveal it but Liverpool actually have only scored 14 times in 11 games. That's... not a lot.

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 5 November 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

not when you've got a 30 million pound striker

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

The Carroll transfer will still be the most scandalous over the top thing in football this decade imho. Even Balotelli can't trump that.

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 5 November 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

torres

pandemic, Saturday, 5 November 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

Well there is that, yes

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 5 November 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

carrol transfer way more stupid than torres'

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

It's hard to see what can top it short of Dynamo Berlin winning every Bundesliga 'til 2020

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 November 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

alan pardew replacing jose when he is fired for coming second again

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

par dieu, avec espoir

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

qpr are 'up for this'

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

they want it more than u will know

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

anyone who doesnt support qpr but wants them to win this is scum imo

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

or alternatively are not scum and just hate former-arsenal fc.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

ffs, Carroll only cost £15m cos of the £50m we got for Torres.

Chris, Saturday, 5 November 2011 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

uhm

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 18:34 (thirteen years ago)

sorry, joking obv ;)

Chris, Saturday, 5 November 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago)

how can u look at warnock and joey barton and want them to triumph over silva and touré and everyone rosy cheeked bairn in abu dhabi

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

one

silva not quite on dis ting today

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

lol

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

Hmmmm. I sold Dzeko and Silva from my fantasy team this morning.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 5 November 2011 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

lol qpr fans trolling city w/ that stupid celebration

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

Fulham did that as well, I think

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 5 November 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

MICHAEL GOVE supports qpr so

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

I saw Michael Gove outside Loftus Road after the Blackburn game. Gave me a proper shock. Just fuck off back to Aberdeen, eh? Oh, except they really don't like Tories in Scotland, do they?

Great game of football today. Really terrific performance from Rangers as well.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

blackburn banned banners from being brought into the ground, so during the game...

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/05/article-1320508962842-0EAD3A3B00000578-822109_636x335.jpg

kinda harsh huh

zvookster, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

tbf banning banners is a dickmove.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

shouldnt they be hating on the hicks who hired him

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

that stupid celebration

― Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011

the poznan is gr8. i love the idea of taking a celebration home as a souvenir of the far-flung places you go, the heady rush for man city fans of playing in europe brought back to the Wet Wednesday, and its spreading thru english football thru sarcasm or emulation is a joy.

zvookster, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02021/Kean_Out_2021195c.jpg

I liked it when their recent Indian tour got hijacked too.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah the Poznan is treat - the thing I like most about it is simply finding a fan culture in Europe that I knew nothing about. Hating is for the likes of Alan Green. "There they go again. I hope there's a goal now - it'd serve them right" - serve them right for what, you deeply unpleasant prick?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

the name 'the poznan' is terrible, admitting u like it is basically saying u are chill w/ a hideous mix of old school citeh cunt sentimental barminess and current top-of-the-fuckin world boorishness

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

u might as well admit u like paul weller or leprosy instead u sick fucks

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

for the kinds of shared experience of travel and fandom and new strangeness of success to be represented so simply by the poznan is beautiful to me. it's no surprise internet loners h8 on it with alan green.

zvookster, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

i kinda preferred old school borderline shit-on-the-walls zvooks this new sentimental medicated kumbaya verzh is just slightly scary

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

wow really? really now?

zvookster, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

totes, i mean that u found deems responsible for the cumulative sins of patriarchy was pretty coruscating content

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

/time/

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

what am i eating when my shit is coruscating? iirc u brought up medication then also. must be a trope of yours.

why do u think naming the dance after "a city on the Warta river in west-central Poland, with a population of 556,022" has the associations u give it anyhow? adopting the dance is a kind of generousity, and giving it the name of the polish side is top of the world boorishness? don't see it at allllll

zvookster, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

are there other examples of this kind of adoption? would love to know abt them. i know there's "you'll never walk alone" with celtic etc. but that only really touches me at pool v celtic nights.

zvookster, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

Are you a City fan, zvookster?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

hardly

zvookster, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

the po po po po po pooo po white stripes chant

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

There's also Liverpool appropriating the Fields of Athenry

Number None, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

zvooks im not sure i have ever 'brought up medication' wrt to yr common or garden ilx psychos, i mean lol u off meds is pretty bad rhetoric even by internet standards

i just recognise the really special cases

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

I guess England exported its fan culture all through the 70s and 80s

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

didnt totti popularize that seven nation army thing? im sure he said he had never heard of the white stripes

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

this is when ILF should just replace itself with an index of every guardian 'the knowledge' column

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

i just recognise the really special cases

― Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011

u just react really badly to being called an internet loner!

zvookster, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago)

im chill w/ that i mean one person on the internet saying that to another person on the internet is always lucid and incisive commentary

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

it's not quite lol u off meds tho

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

no indeed

zvookster, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

Yes..this is true! The AS Roma supporters (I am one of them) stolen this song during the game FC Bruges vs. AS Roma) to make fun of the Bruges supporters in 2005/2006. After that..the AS Roma supporter used to sing this song everywhere..and during the World Cup..all the other Italian supporters started to sing this song!
knulph 3 years ago

boxall, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

like why would u suddenly drop your sub-nrq snark for weak hypeman steez on this of all issues? what specifically endears u to energetic polish lumpens and manchester city fans

it is meaningful

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago)

u r revulsed by "energetic polish lumpens" it is a dirty world of non-aristos for u

i've explained a decent amount of what i like abt the poznan!

zvookster, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

anyone know wht the music playing in the background of the siralex montage on motd was?

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

naw i was listening to a hoos on the radio

zvookster, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

hoos is on the radio????

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

Lineker's tache NAGL

Number None, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

damn u man it's not the thing itself it's (as yr man lacan will have said) the symptom, what 'does it say' that ornery internet retard zvooks finds serene beatification in synchronized jumping-up-and-down?

wrt slavic lumpens yes they can be a bad lot as many whose ancestors fled the pale will attest

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

pairing u with klata's alan green more otm with every post u make

what do u dislike abt it? something abt paul weller and oiks iirc

zvookster, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

im not saying wes brown knew what he was doing there, but he had to do that, it was just to be and there wasn't anything so determined as a decision involved

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

wes brown is shit, it's nothing more than that

Number None, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

he isn't shit! i mean he's 'the most natually talented defender in england' or something, and he even looked it in a few games earlier this season

it was a good finish, to call that an unfortunate deflection is just wrong

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:02 (thirteen years ago)

Hansen bigging up Silva's work rate just now

Number None, Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:02 (thirteen years ago)

hansen just did the silva/workrate thing again

hah xp

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:02 (thirteen years ago)

did you just say wes brown is the most talented english defender?

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

it's a sralex quote

tbf i don't think it was that stupid, he did have a lot of skill/pace/aggresion just bad injury record, weird mistakes etc

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

"naturally talented". It's a thing people say about failed players who used to be kind of promising e.g. Joe Cole

Number None, Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

we have a law IN THIS COUNTRY not like those other countries where john terry would be treated like some kind of criminal

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:34 (thirteen years ago)

the name 'the poznan' is terrible, admitting u like it is basically saying u are chill w/ a hideous mix of old school citeh cunt sentimental barminess and current top-of-the-fuckin world boorishness

― Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, November 5, 2011 10:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Grounds for SB tbh

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:35 (thirteen years ago)

u just react really badly to being called an internet loner!

― zvookster, Saturday, November 5, 2011 11:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

^^ new board description

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:35 (thirteen years ago)

.....

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago)

if u like the poznan u are an antisemite and probable hitlerite i mean it's clearly that bad

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

u off yr fuckin meds again

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

A City disciple said: "It's the best celebration out there — you can feel the stand rocking. It started when we beat Poznan 3-1 last October."

If a City disciple say so, it is so

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:48 (thirteen years ago)

if u like the poznan u are an antisemite and probable hitlerite i mean it's clearly that bad

― Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Sunday, November 6, 2011 12:43 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

So all Polish are antisemitic and "hitlerite"? Gonna have to fire my secretary for not passing me that memo tbh

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

btw they listed woodford reserve but don't have it and i'm on wild turkey instead nakh, is this not a more pressing issue iyo

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:50 (thirteen years ago)

don't the americans hereabouts rep for wild turkey? i would suggest it is probably fit for purpose and that u should enjoy it and my god american whiskies are overpriced here

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:53 (thirteen years ago)

it's a shame it had to be city that brought roberto mancini back to these shores but so be it

seems wrong but even milner and barry look pretty effective right now

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:54 (thirteen years ago)

eight quid it's only ok tbh

blind pele (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:57 (thirteen years ago)

rah! how'd you manage that? im only on courvos aka 'the hip hop mogul's beverage of choice' (c) the observer 2001

u will have noticed this from my electing to say fuck a fireworks night and instead spending the evening enjoying verbal pyrotechnics with fellow internet psychos

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:12 (thirteen years ago)

i'm necking "the bailie nicol jarvie old scotch" -- i guess it was my dad's, it looks super-fancy and it was his one last pleasure :(

i know as much abt scotch as i do abt football but i'm drunk so fuck it

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:18 (thirteen years ago)

yah i will drink to that, fitba and whisky the twin spirits of lethe

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

poznan is the fucking worst.

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:36 (thirteen years ago)

eight quid a fuckin shot ffs h8 ffs

blind pele (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:47 (thirteen years ago)

h8 dublin that is

blind pele (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:48 (thirteen years ago)

usquebaugh

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:55 (thirteen years ago)

that's no good, i figured u got a bottle from someone fotb in the wrong directions

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:00 (thirteen years ago)

nonesuch i'm afraid

Next bar, tho- dude don't distinguish btwn 'whiskey' and 12 yr glenmorangie so i'm ahead for night

Only saw utd today, not v impressive

blind pele (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:13 (thirteen years ago)

saw last half of Citeh game, they were oddly more cautious than i've seen them this season.

Warnock must have some kind of super-low base blood pressure

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:56 (thirteen years ago)

Silva's touch was laugh out lood good.

Chris, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:20 (thirteen years ago)

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/317760_10150390896825407_541985406_10039300_523445709_n.jpg

James Mitchell, Sunday, 6 November 2011 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

Stonewall penalty denied cos Hunt wouldn't dive :-|

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

We want to see players staying on their feet though, good for him

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 November 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

i don't blame Hunt, i blame useless cunt Lee Probert

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

Wild Turkey is aight

bomb.gif (dan m), Sunday, 6 November 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

Can't decide who's more gash, Karl Henry or Rodallega

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

okay it's Rodallega.

this is painful, dude has missed a bigger sitter than that Torres one

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

rodallega apparently

pandemic, Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

punished!

pandemic, Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

and then to make him feel worse we go up their end and 1-0 to the Wanderers.

2 pretty poor teams tho.

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

hoping we might settle and play a bit now, but i'm not that hopeful

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

"thin lines in the barclays premier league.....very thin"

pandemic, Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

that's how you go down

pandemic, Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

god that was stupid

pandemic, Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

lucky

pandemic, Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

I felt sorry for the dude on Indian tv yesterday, having to push Bolton-Stoke as their big Sunday game

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

the phrase "for fuck's sake" springs to mind

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

genuinely don't see how that was possible Ismael. Kudos if he managed it. Then again Stoke ARE in Europe tbf

pandemic, Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

once again i'm kind of ambivalent because if we scrape a win, no matter how badly we play, mccarthy's job will be safe for another fortnight.

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

He said 'reebok' a lot, which tbf is the closest to glamour-by-association as I think he could get

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

coming around to the idea that city, utd, spurs, chelsea, arsenal are varying degrees of good. Undecided on newcastle. The other 14 teams are rubbish.

pandemic, Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

i don't give a shit about whether you're under "pressure" or not, play fucking football and pass the ball to fucking feet for fuck's sake

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

we're really playing like a McCarthy team today, total expression of his footballing values

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

coming around to the idea that city, utd, spurs, chelsea, arsenal are varying degrees of good. Undecided on newcastle. The other 14 teams are rubbish.

Painful. I wonder what Suarez thinks.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

Townsend and Curbishley must be the punditry team in Hell.

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

struggling to summon up the willpower to sit thru the second half

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

jesus fucking christ jarvis for guedioura. classic mick, play gued out of position and then when it doesn't work you can leave him out of the team for another couple of months. fucked.

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

you clueless clueless clueless clueless cunt

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

henry with the messi dribble

pandemic, Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

unbelievable ping pong goal after a surging run to the byline from...karl henry???

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

poor old al habsi

pandemic, Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

lol Wardy

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

stick a fork in them?

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

back heels in the build up to goals!! incredible barrage by the wolves

pandemic, Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

it's a big improvement when we pass the ball, yeah. thought the backheel was a tad unnecessary.

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

expect another angry, confrontational, last-days-of-Nixon speech from McCarthy if we win this

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

fabulous save that from al Habsi

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

kevin davies finally delivers for Ismael's fantasy team!

pandemic, Sunday, 6 November 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

Bolton goal: People, check this one out on Match of the Day 2 later, it's got controversial written all over it. First Howard Webb rules that Glenn Whelan's wayward swipe back into the hands of Asmir Begovic in the Stoke goal is a back-pass, and the official then allows Ivan Klasnic to take it immediately, squaring to Kevin Davies to tap into an empty net before the Stoke defence have even trotted back into their own area.

Howard Webb? Well I never.

pandemic, Sunday, 6 November 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

I'm all for more dubious backpass decisions being given though

Number None, Sunday, 6 November 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

i'm all for any decision being given that negatively effects stoke tbh

pandemic, Sunday, 6 November 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

Aw jeez, it's come to this - pity cheers.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 November 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

hey i've got tevez in my team!

pandemic, Sunday, 6 November 2011 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

At least you get satisfaction from permanently benching the prick.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 November 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

true. 'sub 3' does have a nice ring to it

pandemic, Sunday, 6 November 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan are fucked. We have serious issues.

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

Webb shd never be allowed to referee another match in his life.

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

yeah wigan, not good. They think they're swansea. They're not.

pandemic, Sunday, 6 November 2011 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

congrats to you noodle tho. even if it means more mick.

pandemic, Sunday, 6 November 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

Doyle and O'Hara were great, a lot of the rest was worrying.

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

Dave Bassett on Redknapp's convalescence on SSN "no doubt Harry will be twitching at home"

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

Fulham are gonna beat us today, calling it.

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

Top forearm smash by Steve Sidwell there.

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

jesus how good was that

Fulham elbowing around the pitch wtf

blind pele (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 November 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

Strange game, Fulham have controlled a lot more of the game but Spurs are 2-0 up. Terrific Lennon goal though. Chris Baird is shite.

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

grygera *sounds* fucked

blind pele (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 November 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

Oof that sounds painful, you can hear him screaming.

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

This first half is gonna run to like 55mins!

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

Bolton 5-0 Stoke wtf

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 November 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

Europa Leage hangover accounts for Stoke being awful, not sure what accounts for Bolton being competent.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Sunday, 6 November 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

Because Bolton are a decent attacking with no spine who only play well when they're put under no pressure.

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs need to be better than this. A lot better.

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

Also can someone tell Friedel to stop just hoofing it to no one?

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

His eyesight's going, thinks he sees Crouch way off in the distance, it's actually Mark Schwarzer.

boxall, Sunday, 6 November 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

Never in doubt.

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

while only having 5live to tell me about this game so far I will venture that playing ropily and winning is at least as much an indicator of a potential CL spot as, say, spanking Liverpool 4-0

We All Had Guess Papers (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

jesus that was poor, great points

Parker should never have been on the pitch second half, he's clearly dazed

blind pele (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

My stream was a bit behind. Heroic keeping from Walker at the end

Number None, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

That and the Blackburn game have reassured me that we're capable of picking up points even when under the cosh against teams who throw the kitchen sink at us.

Way flattering scoreline but it was all about individual brilliance (Friedel, Lennon, Defoe, King) rather than any sort of coherent performance. Late header off the line aside, that was as poor a game as I've seen from Modric in a Spurs shirt, our midfield just couldn't get a grip on the game at all.

Still, we'd have lost that last season.

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

I will venture that playing ropily and winning is at least as much an indicator of a potential CL spot as, say, spanking Liverpool 4-0

― We All Had Guess Papers (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:03 (2 minutes ago)

true enough, i think

at a certain level that contention probably doesn't hold, like they were saying newcastle played badly and won (pbaw? praw? wwpr?) yesterday, but then showed them avoiding an obvious penalty decision, like maybe it's just a sort of luck/ sense of purpose that holds out for a bit even when they stop really playing well

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

We avoided a really obvious penalty shout as well, Walker blatantly handballed it in the area but there was such a mad frantic scramble going on at the time that you can kinda forgive the ref for missing it.

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

you need some ref bias working for you too. The true mark of champions

Number None, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

That was some heroic defending from Spurs.

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

Also (and I know I'm more than a decade late to ask this) what the hell is Brad Friedel's accent?

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

ismael you must be happy, davies just tripled your points for the week...

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:14 (thirteen years ago)

I've stopped looking, am relying on you 'well-wishers' for updates now.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:17 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool after 11 games last season: 18 points
Liverpool after 11 games this season: 19 points

cozen, Sunday, 6 November 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

That's progress.

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

It was 15 points from 11 games last season, actually. Which was then followed by 7 from the next 7.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 November 2011 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

I'm still convinced Suarez won't be here next season.

Chris, Sunday, 6 November 2011 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, it did cross my mind when pandemic had his epiphany this afternoon. I wonder if they're lining up someone interesting for the january window?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 November 2011 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

Zamora?

Chris, Sunday, 6 November 2011 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

Hm. There's no bigger fan of Bobby Z than me, but I'm not sure that'll do it.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 November 2011 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

Hoilett prob

Number None, Sunday, 6 November 2011 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

Aw fuck it, he'd be great. Him and Dempsey in a swap deal for Carroll, everyone's a winner.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 November 2011 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

why do u think he will leave?

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Sunday, 6 November 2011 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

(suarez)

hoilett is out of contract in the summer

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Sunday, 6 November 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

Adam seems incapable of functioning in a 4-4-2, Downing's faded, Henderson's best moments have come when he's played CM, Carroll ??? Poor Kuyt and Maxi can't get a look in. Maxi's unhappy and looking to leave in January, so I hear.

CL teams will surely come sniffing for Suarez?

Chris, Sunday, 6 November 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

He wasn't an unknown quantity before Liverpool came in for him, though, so no reason why they should be jumping for him now. That's what I'm telling myself. Pool do need to make a step up though before he gets the idea that he's carrying the team.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 November 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

Some excellent finishing from Bolton today

Number None, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

is Bale actually getting credit for that goal??

it looked like it'd've hit the corner flag

We All Had Guess Papers (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago)

I reckon Liverpool are more likely to try and make a couple more big signings than they are to sell Suarez, which would be like admitting defeat pretty early on. Don't see any reason why they should panicking just yet - there's loads of quality in that squad and Suarez, Kuyt and Bellamy should be good for enough goals even if Carroll never makes it.

I wonder whether Dalglish has just been away from the game for too long, he doesn't seem to have got them to gel at all yet. And he's been making some bizarre decisions - selling Mereiles, signing Bellamy and barely playing him, leaving Kuyt on the sidelines. I still think they'll have a reasonable season but I can see them slipping below Arsenal pretty soon and staying there.

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

God I don't need to hear Grygera screaming again...

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago)

Bellamy was obviously signed as a backup tho

Number None, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

Is he really so past-it? I know he's 32 now but he was pretty lethal before he fell out with Man City.

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think he exactly set the Championship alight last year, but you're hardly going to play him ahead of your 35m striker and phalanx of central midfielders anyway are you?

Number None, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

Bellamy is probably there as an impact sub - I'd say he should be starting but I have no idea what his physical condition is. Kuyt should play every game in full - he has the odd shocker but otherwise he can do everything and doesn't let you down. Lucas too, without the shockers. Adam has exceeded my expectations but he's slow and this is why I think he only works in a five. Maxi's just too slow. Selling Meireles was stupid. Downing I thought was great but reading about his lack of end product has got me concerned. Henderson I never notice.

The thing is though, Suarez is far too good for them. You can easily make up a serviceable front six from that lot plus Gerrard and Johnson, but if it's going to compete it's because he's carrying it.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

apols if this was already noted in the wasteland of 'load all messages' but there has been some insanely good goalkeeping in the Prem this weekend

We All Had Guess Papers (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

al habsi was incredible, wasn't he

Suarez flatters to deceive, i'm starting to think. If Carroll starts firing, and i've faith he will, and they can gel, that's a classic partnership- but i dunno that suarez isn't to wasteful if there's not a scrapper in the box to finish for him. Kuyt if not carroll.

blind pele (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

lol at motd2 highlighting modric's display today, his worst performance in a year or more imo.

Walker was bloody good. Getting kinda sick of matt's patient approach paying dividends itt.

Tho, tbf, it was no surprise that a jol team outplays & outshoots you but ends up losing- and satisfied with it.

blind pele (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

BAE's looking good isn't he?

Chris, Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

ha yeah, that's an input into the 'patient matt' comment, but he's been great all season, i'd say there's only enrique and maybe baines to touch him from what i've seen.

blind pele (darraghmac), Monday, 7 November 2011 00:21 (thirteen years ago)

Good Spurs first half

very poor second half or Fulham were somehow very good

they should have had a pen but so should we

late goal flattered Tottenham

I don't dislike Liverpool, I quite like them in various ways, but I do enjoy it when the big-spending scousers draw at home with newly promoted teams.

the pinefox, Monday, 7 November 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

het someone post this to a relevant thread so i can avoid work pls, can't type it out on a phone tbh. (darraghmac)

Name		Team		Mins	Gls	Ast	Eff.
Edin Dzeko Man City 583 10 3 44.85
Sergio Aguero Man City 654 9 3 54.5
Ivan Klasnic Bolton 516 5 4 57.33
Roysten Drenthe Everton 306 2 3 61.2
Samir Nasri Man City 431 1 6 61.57
Robin van Persie Arsenal 904 11 3 64.57
Mario Balotelli Man City 332 5 0 66.4
Demba Ba Newcastle 642 8 1 71.33
Wayne Rooney Man Utd 831 9 2 75.55
Adam Johnson Man City 388 3 2 77.6
James Milner Man City 558 2 5 79.71
Ashley Young Man Utd 641 2 6 80.13
David Silva Man City 895 4 7 81.36
Rafael Van Der Vaart Tottenham 676 6 2 84.5
Frank Lampard Chelsea 856 6 4 85.6
Gabriel Agbonlahor Aston Villa 942 5 6 85.64
Jermain Defoe Tottenham 441 4 1 88.2
Emmanuel Adebayor Tottenham 714 3 5 89.25
Gervinho Arsenal 639 2 5 91.29
Aaron Lennon Tottenham 381 1 3 95.25

boxall, Monday, 7 November 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

good man good man

Anyway, plenty of english talent there going on the evidence, no?

blind pele (darraghmac), Monday, 7 November 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

Dzeko is a flat track bully imo

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 November 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

just as well there are an awful lot of flat tracks in the epl then.

pandemic, Monday, 7 November 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

btw, had defoe's goal not taken a deflection it would have been a real beaut

blind pele (darraghmac), Monday, 7 November 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

xp

well yeah but y'know he'll score a couple against some dross that's already 3 down, he seems dead wasteful when it matters

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 November 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

gtfo flat track dzeko, how many of those goals were against top five teams

blind pele (darraghmac), Monday, 7 November 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

Surprising to me that Balotelli's managed 5 goals and no assists, he doesn't strike me as selfish when he's on the pitch, small sample size I guess.

boxall, Monday, 7 November 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

ht trick against spurs, 2 against utd. hasn't played chelsea, newcastle, arsenal yet

pandemic, Monday, 7 November 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

actually 4 vs spurs, but that was way back when spurs weren't a top 4 team.

pandemic, Monday, 7 November 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

2 vs united after they hit the self destruct button (and both were tap-ins??)

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

lol at this analysis, goals is goals rooney scores 8 vs bolton every year

blind pele (darraghmac), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

I expect Dzeko will be more highly thought of if he can get Bosnia-Herz into the Euros on Friday, glad he and Pjanic both seem to be in good form.

boxall, Monday, 7 November 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

pjanic made a lovely assist for bojan's goal at the weekend

pandemic, Monday, 7 November 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

i'd gladly have someone at LFC to score tap ins tbh

pandemic, Monday, 7 November 2011 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

gonna have to pay more than 58m the pair for that

blind pele (darraghmac), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

apparently so

pandemic, Monday, 7 November 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

y'all can have chamakh if you want. supposedly its all he is there for and he was very good at it (for five games at the start of last season.)

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 02:33 (thirteen years ago)

"The FA will have to clear it up with him, because there is no proof at all that I have said anything racist," said Suárez. "I didn't say anything like that to him.

"There are things that happen in football, all in the moment, that leaves one feeling bad. Now we have to wait to see this issue decided and then the Manchester player and I will have to clear things up. Depending on who ends up in the wrong, one of us will have to apologise.

"There were two sides of our discussion, one in Spanish and one in English. I didn't insult him, it was just my way of expressing myself. I called him something that his own Manchester United players call him. Furthermore, even they were surprised at his reaction on the pitch."

What do they call him? I must know

Number None, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 10:31 (thirteen years ago)

Patty

the pinefox, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 10:50 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, kinda the crux of it

blind pele (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 10:50 (thirteen years ago)

Hope we all sign this: https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/14605

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 10:57 (thirteen years ago)

Deems while I really like both fullbacks we have now I was basically screaming at them to stop bombing forward for the last 10-15mins or so. There's a place for swashbuckling adventure and that's not when you're defending a 2-1 lead against a team that's had you on the rack for the last half hour.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

well, looking at parker's discipline i think that width and speed on the counter can still add a lot to our play too. It'll gain us more than it costs as long as we use the ball well, and both fullbacks are good with delivery.

Feel that countering through the centre has been weak the past few games, otoh-qpr aside. Newcastle in particular saw parker and vdv waste a lot of opportunity before we conceded late.

Good to have the capacity to play it either way tho, i spose

blind pele (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

Oh yeah totally, but when you're holding onto a lead that slender and seemingly fragile you don't really want them to start exploiting the space behind a fullback.

Seems a weird thing to say now Lennon's playing his way back into form but I wonder how Walker->Pienaar on the right would play out.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

lennon on the left, bale out!

blind pele (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

Looks like Levy will be joining 'arry in the slammer.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

I like Suarez having the balls to at least say he said something cunty, if not racist to Evra. It shows a bit of backbone compared to EBJT's 'who me?'

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago)

I like Suarez having the balls to at least say he said something cunty

He hasn't done that, has he? "I didn't insult him, it was just my way of expressing myself. I called him something that his own Manchester United players call him."

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 07:00 (thirteen years ago)

Is it possible that Man U's other black players use n-with-an-a and Suarez is pulling that "they call each other n__ so why can't white people do it?" shite?

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

no, i really can't see that tbh.

Tevez lol

blind pele (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

it's just a misunderstanding

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

he didn't refuse to turn up for training, only refused to be in the correct country

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

Stay classy, Ashley. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/10/newcastle-st-james-park-sports-direct

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Thursday, 10 November 2011 08:29 (thirteen years ago)

Ashley has also confirmed that the Newcastle forward will be renamed for the season as "sportsdirect.com@Demba Ba".

James Mitchell, Thursday, 10 November 2011 09:04 (thirteen years ago)

everytime demba ba scores he isn't allowed to pull the shirt over his head but first purchase an extra large sports direct carrier bag for 10p, and then put that over his head.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Thursday, 10 November 2011 11:03 (thirteen years ago)

dude calls his building something film at eleven

britishers be half-xenophobe half-disgusted at other britishers film at eleven

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 November 2011 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

What film is it? Hope it's The Great Escape

Number None, Thursday, 10 November 2011 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

#trapout
#dalglishout
#justiceforwoy

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 November 2011 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

meh, ashley has done a fucking awesome job and if he wants to rename a stadium every non-televised person in the land is still going to call st. james, who gives a fuck? many people talked about the etihad stadium recently?

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 10 November 2011 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh_Bum-Seok

hey guys this is an actual footballers name. Oh Bum-Seok (can also be spelt Oh Beom-Seok but thats less funny.)

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 10 November 2011 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

O Bum Seok
O judge
O mom and dad

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Thursday, 10 November 2011 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

Why will television people call it that? I know they will, are they contractually obliged to or something? Also, I bet they don't keep saying 'as we have to call it these days', like you still get with linesmen fifteen years later.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 10 November 2011 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

It's the Sports Direct Arena stu, call it by it's real name.

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Thursday, 10 November 2011 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

Pretty certain they're required to call it that, Ismael.

Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Thursday, 10 November 2011 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.runofplay.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/naming-rights-park.jpg

Will always be NAMING RIGHTS to me.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 10 November 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

meh, ashley has done a fucking awesome job and if he wants to rename a stadium every non-televised person in the land is still going to call st. james, who gives a fuck? many people talked about the etihad stadium recently?

people talk about the emirates a lot though. it depends on the name i think. or maybe that's because arsenal fans aren't real fans.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

but the Emirates has always been called that

Number None, Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

the emirates has always been the emirates tho, I think? Must admit that I thought when they first moved that people would just refer to it as 'ashburton grove' this doesn't seem to have happened.
xp

pandemic, Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

that's true enough. what do folks call etihad now? is it city of manchester stadium? eastlands?

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

iirc John Henry made the point that you can only do it with a new stadium - nobody would ever stop calling it Anfield

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

Most people seem to call the new Lansdowne Road stadium the Aviva although they did totally demolish the old one.

Number None, Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

meh, ashley has done a fucking awesome job

If the whole of English football ends at this exact point in time then yes.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah it is because it is a new stadium that Emirates works. 'Etihad' is only 10 years old or whatever but in conversation it is still just Eastlands.

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 10 November 2011 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

tbf that's a sentiment I'm not entirely opposed to

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 10 November 2011 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

Well, he learnt from his lessons. Hiring Shearer obv was stupid as shit, whereas getting £35m for overrated and bad tempered local boy and replacing him for free with one of the best strikers in the country = good.

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 10 November 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

In fairness everyone was saying at the time that sacking Houghton and replacing him with Pardew was completely cretinous. I'm still not convinced that everything that's happening at Newcastle isn't taking even Ashley and Pardew by surprise. This just doesn't have the feel of having happened by design, and might yet fuck up.

Getting £30m or whatever for Carroll does look like incredible business however.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 November 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

Also you know that Ashley is dropping this particular bomb now because he thinks the fans will be so overjoyed at sitting third in the Premiership that they'll be less likely to tear of their shirts and stand outside St James's Park baying for his blood.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 November 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

Also you know that Ashley is dropping this particular bomb every now and then because he thinks the fans will be so overjoyed at sitting third in the Premiership that they'll be less likely to tear of their shirts and stand outside St James's Park baying for his blood. then buy a new shirt each from sportsdirect.com

fixed

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Thursday, 10 November 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

True Newcastle fans will never bow to the tyranny of the shirt-wearers
http://www.virginmedia.com/images/newcastle-hated.jpg

Number None, Thursday, 10 November 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

ashamed guy makes that photo work.

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 10 November 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

rafa is in toon army????!!

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Thursday, 10 November 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

hiring shearer was amazing long-game strategy imo, that was a step to be o'erleapt or else forever failed

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 November 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

Also, I bet they don't keep saying 'as we have to call it these days', like you still get with linesmen fifteen years later.

Think you might have misunderstood - 'linesmen' were officially renamed 'referee's assistants as we have to call them these days'.

Nasty, British & Short (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

i wish there was a newcastle fan on ilx

jabba hands, Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

all @ sportsdirect.com

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

Right, let's sign one. How can we go about this? Tap up someone from another board?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

rename ILF to ILF @ sportsdirect.com

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

We have to wait for the transfer window to open again.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

Come to this board, my children.

Alan Shearer (ken c), Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

"sportsdirect.com@I Love Football" would be the proper syntax.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

I bet Mike Ashley never gets any email.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

I've had a soft spot for them for much of the Premiership era but it's been soured in recent times and my heart's not in making a proper go of supporting them.

grandpa aaron knows how to live (onimo), Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

We could try constructing an optimal searchable thread title to lure in a suitable googler? What would it be? It'd have to be the right type of fan.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

TINO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPGe9OrT53Y

grandpa aaron knows how to live (onimo), Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

I know some american newcastle fans but idk if they're what you guys are looking for

bomb.gif (dan m), Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

OFFICIAL JOHN TERRY FAN CLUB (Blind Cunts need not apply)

Number None, Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

US fans probably won't have the delusions of grandeur

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

thx for that onimo. I loved Tino. Him arriving at Newcastle to sign in a blizzard with a massive fur coat on will always be my favourite transfer window moment (other than selling torres for £50m obvs)

pandemic, Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

CHEAP PETER BEARDSLEY BELLY TATTOOS /seo

James Mitchell, Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

St. sportsdirect.com Park.

we should have a poll deciding which ILF regular to assign the role of token Newcastle fan.

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

the winner would have to take it v seriously, obv. Pierre Menard, Supporter of Newcastle.

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

Divint fuckin accuse us ay no takin wor club serious
http://www.catflapmag.com/football-blog/content/binary/geordie.jpg

grandpa aaron knows how to live (onimo), Thursday, 10 November 2011 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

For an international message board ILF fandom is definitely concentrated among a few teams, to the extent that Villa, the most successful club in the second biggest city in Britain, have one fan. See also the delight at a Norwich fan popping up. Imagine how great a passionate Stoke or Blackburn fan would be.

*Condescending pat on head*

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 November 2011 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

Need more Utd fans imo

Number None, Thursday, 10 November 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

I mean sometimes I feel like I'm the only person around here who actually likes Wayne Rooney

Number None, Thursday, 10 November 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

No. It's bad enough that yourself and NBS have softened my hatred of Man Utd, don't want to take the chance any more posters could lead me to a grudging admiration for that club.
xp

pandemic, Thursday, 10 November 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

I believe EZ Snappin is a Villa fan.

Unless he was the one you were thinking of, in which case fuck off London-centric media conspiracy have you won the european cup wahhh

MPx4A, Thursday, 10 November 2011 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

It's a fairytale for the Villa and Norwich fans, getting to post on the same board as Matt, pandemic, etc.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 10 November 2011 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

every post is like a cup final

grandpa aaron knows how to live (onimo), Thursday, 10 November 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

They can tell the grandkids about the time a hoy hoy zinged them

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 10 November 2011 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

Official Newcastle United forum - FA Cup winners 2011/12, Europa League here we come!

Playing it straight, setting some google-bait.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 10 November 2011 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

Good work

Nasty, British & Short (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 10 November 2011 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

as a constant lurker and nufc fan i felt I ought to identify myself, begin the ridicule

kelvinshuffle@gmail.com, Thursday, 10 November 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

Wrong thread.

j/k

boxall, Thursday, 10 November 2011 23:11 (thirteen years ago)

Hurrah! It's international week, you get eight more days of basking in glory first.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 10 November 2011 23:13 (thirteen years ago)

That was fast. Ismael Klata - gets results

Number None, Thursday, 10 November 2011 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

I mean sometimes I feel like I'm the only person around here who actually likes Wayne Rooney

― Number None, Thursday, 10 November 2011 22:00 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what you like that guy? pete doesn't seem to like ebjt, i certainly cant stand wilshere - cunts are cunts regardless of how well they play football for your team.

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 November 2011 07:21 (thirteen years ago)

Dear James,

We are delighted to announce that the world-famous rock band Coldplay will be performing two dates at Emirates Stadium next summer. The British band, who has just released their new album 'Mylo Xyloto', will appear at the Gunners' home on Friday 1st June 2012 and Saturday 2nd June 2012.

We are also pleased to confirm that the Club have negotiated with the event promoter - SJM Concerts - for an allocation of tickets to be made available to Arsenal Members to purchase 24 hours prior to the general ticket release.

Tickets are priced from £49.50 and will be available to Arsenal Members from 9am to 11.59pm UK time on Thursday 17th November 2011.

Ugh.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 November 2011 08:01 (thirteen years ago)

worth trying over Jenkinson-Squillaci-Koscielny-Djourou imo

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 November 2011 08:18 (thirteen years ago)

Which one's the drummer?

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 November 2011 08:46 (thirteen years ago)

Jenk.

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 November 2011 08:50 (thirteen years ago)

The British band, who has just released their new album

Strange grammar

Nasty, British & Short (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 11 November 2011 08:53 (thirteen years ago)

Give Arsene a break man

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 11 November 2011 08:56 (thirteen years ago)

Wouldn't the American version be 'which has just released its new album' though?

if, Friday, 11 November 2011 09:19 (thirteen years ago)

guess so

caek, Friday, 11 November 2011 09:23 (thirteen years ago)

I wasn't being entirely serious a hoy hoy.

Number None, Friday, 11 November 2011 09:35 (thirteen years ago)

tbf, hard to tell there

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 09:43 (thirteen years ago)

Really? Guess my faux-naif tone could use some work

Number None, Friday, 11 November 2011 10:11 (thirteen years ago)

right back atcha

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 10:46 (thirteen years ago)

ah

Number None, Friday, 11 November 2011 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

no

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 10:49 (thirteen years ago)

Moving swiftly on, Bale to Barcelona for £35m? Overpriced if you ask me

Number None, Friday, 11 November 2011 10:55 (thirteen years ago)

on a swap deal with messi

Alan Shearer (ken c), Friday, 11 November 2011 11:03 (thirteen years ago)

Something about being able to do it on a cold November night at the NAMING RIGHTS.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 November 2011 11:08 (thirteen years ago)

Messi's a shit Left Back tho

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 November 2011 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

So is Gareth Bale

Number None, Friday, 11 November 2011 11:11 (thirteen years ago)

Further to the recruit-a-NUFC ILFer, think we should try to poach Alex Niven from the Zero Books cru. Maybe on a swap deal in return for Marcello?

Stevie T, Friday, 11 November 2011 11:14 (thirteen years ago)

bale > alves tbh, not sure barca need 'backs'

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

Pro wrestling, Pet Shop Boys references, given to extrapolating wildly outwards from dvd boxsets - that guy's a strong candidate alright.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 November 2011 11:31 (thirteen years ago)

please x3 no Z0r0 B00ks related people

if you want a Geordie there is only one you need

*** GEORDIE RACER ***

the pinefox, Friday, 11 November 2011 11:35 (thirteen years ago)

I think Niven is very good. Zer0 has published a few decent things.

Talking of Geordie Racer...

gotta come clean.. once assisted in recording a KISS pastische for the TOON ..chorus went 'God gave Andy Cole to ya'
nufc = beck's 'loser', joy division's 'atrocity exhibition'

― geordie racer, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (10 years ago)

Music at Sporting Events: What Would _YOU_ Choose to Play?

!!

Stevie T, Friday, 11 November 2011 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

always loved the Racer

the pinefox, Friday, 11 November 2011 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

ssshhhhh nobody tell pinefox it's 2011

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 November 2011 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

That's an all-time hall of fame post though surely?

Matt DC, Friday, 11 November 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

bale > alves tbh, not sure barca need 'backs'

I read an extra consonant in the last word of this and was about to go wtf.

boxall, Friday, 11 November 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

tbh barca fans do have a history of hating the blind.

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 November 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

Still not sure exactly why the Spanish are so fond of making monkey noises at blind players tbh

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 11 November 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah exactly, I thought darragh had taken his JT-baiting to new satirical heights, not that he would really hold that opinion, just to be clear.

boxall, Friday, 11 November 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

so sick of this shit, just cos i hate women and the poor doesn't make me racist

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

it was, to be clear, an opinion that bale could perform well at the v nominal 'fullbind' position at barca, seeing as the fullbind aves on the right is p much an overlapping winger anyway.

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

Nah. Alves works as Messi's behind because Abidal stays back. BAE would be a much better signing, unless they are just looking for a back-up to Pedro.

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 November 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

bale - pedro p much as different as scoring lm players could be and both still be great

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

don't get yr point about abidal, usually plays lb, no? As well to be in another team when considering what the right side does

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

ok but you really don't need both. especially considering sanchez messi and villa can play there, and they p decent footballers too.

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 November 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

Has BAE's stock really risen so high that you're talking about him playing for Barcelona with a straight face?

Matt DC, Friday, 11 November 2011 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

don't get yr point about abidal, usually plays lb, no? As well to be in another team when considering what the right side does

― ₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 16:02 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well then why were you comparing alves to bale? Alves is, regardless of what he actually does, a RB. But he can only play 'his' RB tactics because Abidal stays back. If they had both Alves and Bale playing those Alves fullback tactics at the same time, Barca would just be left with whoever Pep could be bothered playing centre half that day* in his own half. One half decent counter attacking team would have their job be so much easier if Bale was bought to play like a left-sided Alves.

*If he could be bothered to play anyone at all.

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 November 2011 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

Has BAE's stock really risen so high that you're talking about him playing for Barcelona with a straight face?

― Matt DC, Friday, 11 November 2011 16:07 (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'm not talking about Welsh superstar Gazza Bale going with a straight face, why the fuck would I with BAE? The only player at Spurs good enough for Barca* is Modric. And he'd be on the bench most of the time.

*Hell of a small field in the whole of Europe - to have one isn't an insult but a compliment imo.

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 November 2011 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

comparing alves- bale is p natural ito what role bale could play imo, i think you're the one overcomplicating it.

But,


bale ------->
pedro
l
v

is as natural as alves overlapping the leftfooted messi t'other side, basically

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

at spurs, good enough for barca-

King, modric, bale, bentley

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, it could be. But that isn't my point. My point is that having both happen at the same time would be counterproductive. And when in doubt, go with Messi instead of Pedro.

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 November 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

I keep thinking I've accidentally clicked the same thread twice with this and the Bale thread.

grandpa aaron knows how to live (onimo), Friday, 11 November 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

spurs fans do talk a lot.

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 November 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

well, one's called the bale thread, the other's the league he plays in as a footballer in england with spurs

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

When did 'arry start thinking Engerland are a bigger club than Tottenham?

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 November 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe Inter will offer Tottenham Hotspur £40mn for 'arry?

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 November 2011 10:43 (thirteen years ago)

fun to think what he could do with arsenal tbh

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 November 2011 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

'Arry and Milan Mandaric to stand trial on the 23rd of January for tax evasion. Can't be good for his health

Number None, Saturday, 12 November 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

tits

Trap in

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 November 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

Also VDV hurt his hammy yesterday.

boxall, Saturday, 12 November 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

Crikey, that's quite soon.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 November 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

I'm sure they'll let him have electric windows in his cell so as he can still pass comment on everybody else's teams on Sky Sports News' transfer deadline day specials.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 12 November 2011 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

fun to think what he could do with arsenal tbh

― ₪_₪ (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 November 2011 12:26 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

man if there is one thing arsenal currently need, it isnt cups it is bankruptcy.

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 12 November 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

'Arry and Milan Mandaric to stand trial on the 23rd of January for tax evasion. Can't be good for his health

― Number None, Saturday, 12 November 2011 16:23 (1 hour ago)

with this and john terry, xmas has come early for james mitchell

The Green Path of Hope is formed (nakhchivan), Saturday, 12 November 2011 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

ashley cole is about to be declared bankrupt and held in a qatari prison, presumably

The Green Path of Hope is formed (nakhchivan), Saturday, 12 November 2011 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

p certain that is a month late for christmas fyi

a calender

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 12 November 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

I'm sure they'll let him have electric windows in his cell so as he can still pass comment on everybody else's teams on Sky Sports News' transfer deadline day specials.

― James Mitchell

quality image tbf

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 November 2011 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/13/luis-suarez-patrice-evra

Patrice Evra has been informed that he may have difficulty proving he was the victim of racial abuse from Luis Suárez, because of a counter-argument that certain variations of the N-word are not deemed offensive where the Liverpool player grew up, in Uruguay..... Top-level sources at Old Trafford say the offending word was uttered in Spanish and allegedly was a derivative of "negro", with Evra stating that it was used "at least 10 times".

Nasty, British & Short (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 14 November 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

I worry about the mid- and low-lever sources. You just don't hear from them anymore these days, what with the top-level sources and all

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 14 November 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

will the belgium u21s be as interesting to watch as the full squad? they seemed to have gone ham on the youth front over the past five years or ix it just a one-off gen?

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 November 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

Amazed you think anyone here is going to be able to answer that. Well, pandemic might.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 November 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

lol nach holds all the answers, come on.

dutch u21s being beaten by scotland atm.

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 November 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

Belgium u21 squad should be bright and full of promise, but I've not seen them recently

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 14 November 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

Former Tottenham and Newcastle midfielder David Ginola is suing his one-time France coach Gerard Houllier.

Houllier managed the French national team between 1992-93, as well as Liverpool and Aston Villa in England.

He is alleged to have referred to Ginola in offensive terms in a new book, Coaches' Secrets.

"David is absolutely incensed," a spokesman for Ginola told the BBC. "Houllier should stop talking like this. Stop singling David out."

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

Amazed that Houllier is still butthurt about that. What were you doing relying on a draw with Bulgaria to go through in the first place?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

Also y'know greatest Bulgarian team ever featuring one of the greatest footballers ever.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 12:20 (thirteen years ago)

dutch u21s being beaten by scotland atm

Blimey yes, they won, who'd a' thocht it?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 12:22 (thirteen years ago)

suing cos someone has an unfavourable opinion about you? Pathetic.

pandemic, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

french footballer is ott insecure, news at 10.

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

tbh i kinda feel bad for Ginola cause Houllier never ever wastes a chance to lay all the blame on him. for somthg that took place 18 yrs ago. and he does it quite regularly (i almost feel like saying anytime he's interviewed). but yeah, kinda lame

Jibe, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

Also after everything that's happened in the intervening 18 years does anyone else in France actually care?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

I mean surely French football has had enough shame and glory since then to make this a mere footnote for everyone else?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

did houllier refer to ginola as a blind cunt?

Alan Shearer (ken c), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/16/luis-suarez-fa-charge-racism-evra

Liverpool's Luis Suárez has been charged with racism by the Football Association after a complaint was made by Patrice Evra of Manchester United during the 1-1 draw between the two sides on 15 October.

The FA's statement, published on its official website on Wednesday evening, said: "It is alleged that Suárez used abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour towards Manchester United's Patrice Evra contrary to FA rules. It is further alleged that this included a reference to the ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race of Patrice Evra."

Number None, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

Not good. I was expecting that one to run into the sand for some reason.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

the first bit of that charge seems to indicate that using abusive and/or insulting words to another player is a chargeable FA offense. I had no idea that was the case.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

it's a red card offence, and (only) red card offences can be picked up after the fact by disciplinary committees if the referee confirms he didn't see/hear it.

caek, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

not sure i can ever remember seeing a ref sending off a player for verbally abusing another player tbh

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

true. verbal abuse is the only time i've ever given a red card tbh, but that was directed at me.

caek, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

quite right. I dunno how refs put up with it tbh. seriously. Or why they put up with it.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

glad the fa are chasing this

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno how refs put up with it tbh. seriously. Or why they put up with it.

gonna speculate that in the top flight it's because they're frightened of rocking the boat and getting thrown out of the money pit

Ridin' Skyrims (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 19:32 (thirteen years ago)

It's hard to see how Terry can't be charged with the same thing now.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

they can sympathise with each other on sunday.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

That's normally my favourite game of the season except maybe the Utd ones, but not feeling it at all this time around tbh.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

there won't be enough evidence to charge terry

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

except maybe the Utd ones

all 50-odd of them or just the ones against Liverpool/Arsenal (delete as appropriate)?

Nasty, British & Short (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

Utd play other matches?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7cE67YEM1K0#t=63s

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

Jesus wept:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/showyoursupportforsuarez/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=button

Nasty, British & Short (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 18 November 2011 09:03 (thirteen years ago)

FFS. Well wait for the hearing and you'll see the evidence. Don't worry you can continue to cheer when he scores without feeling all conflicted for the time being. And afterwards you can just continue cheering I guess.

pandemic, Friday, 18 November 2011 09:15 (thirteen years ago)

Ugh, that mentality is the shittest thing about football. Makes it hard to count myself a fan at all.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 November 2011 09:26 (thirteen years ago)

of course maybe it's a spoof

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCeG35Ihxjs (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 November 2011 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

I doubt it

Number None, Friday, 18 November 2011 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

i think it's perfectly plausible that it's legit, but the sub-english seems almost too perfect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCeG35Ihxjs (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 November 2011 11:51 (thirteen years ago)

Ha! We'll believe anything of 'Pool fans tho.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 18 November 2011 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

Anyway, Gus Poyet thinks Evra is a crybaby cos he got called names when he played in Spain and he just got got on with things

Number None, Friday, 18 November 2011 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

the joy of this kind of airing of dirty laundry is that complete idiots get to have a public forum for their stupid opinions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCeG35Ihxjs (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 November 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

wd like to hear what di Canio thinks tho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCeG35Ihxjs (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 November 2011 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

I think he'd just brush it off his shoulders

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 18 November 2011 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

Poyet not exactly covering himself in glory:

"You cannot accuse people without a proper investigation, especially when it’s a foreigner who is coming from a different place where we treat people of colour in a different way. England should adapt to the foreigners that come here and England needs to understand how the rest of the world lives. If you try to go to a point that doesn’t exist in the rest of the world, it’s going to be complicated. You think the rest of the world is wrong and you are right. Maybe it looks like you want the whole world to drive on the right hand side. Do you want that? So you need to adapt as well."

Quite apart from the fact that sounds suspiciously like "England needs to be more racist" he seems to be suggesting that we drive on the right and want to impose this on the rest of the world.

Nasty, British & Short (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

Stupid South American cun... oops

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

for fuck's sake that is incredible

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

I just hope that we start making complaints every fucking time someone says anything remotely insultive towards any of our players after this. I'm sure that players who call Suarez a diver and all that probably use some harsh words on the pitch as well, harsh enough to be insulting and thusly should be charged and banned if this is how we wanna have it. Poyet is right, Evra is like a crying baby. Also why is it accepted when people say that I'm white but not if I say someone is black? It's stupid and people should get over themselves and not to be incensitive but it's a long time since slaves were a common thing in this world. We don't treat jews any different because of the holocaust, we still call them jews.. Why not call black poeple black? Anyway I'm going on a tangent here and working myself up to a rant, which I don't wanna do so I'll stop right herE.
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=283088.160

Nasty, British & Short (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

Noooo, not RAWK. They'll find you

Number None, Friday, 18 November 2011 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

don't be incensitive!

grandpa aaron knows how to live (onimo), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

Please can everyone just shut up

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 November 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

No need to be insultive

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

intwitive

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

Bollocks, Cleverley out til Christmas according to Fergie

Number None, Friday, 18 November 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

hmm is this gonna be a thing with that dude

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

Could be. There's worries about Welbeck too

Number None, Friday, 18 November 2011 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

is, and i'm only asking now, cleverly really any better than yerman that's gone to bolton? Or is it just that he's better than carrick?

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

who?

Number None, Friday, 18 November 2011 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

Eagles?

pandemic, Friday, 18 November 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

Eagles hasn't played for Utd for years. He is looking decent at the moment though. Absence has obviously made the heart grow fonder with Cleverly but most of our best stuff this season has been played with him in the side (goal against City in the Charity Shield etc.) and he seems to bring out the best in Anderson. The fact that he's the anti-Carrick also stands in his favour yes

Number None, Friday, 18 November 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

ok.

Eagles looked intermittently useful for burnley too, tbfttl

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 18 November 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

These guys have all melted into one form in my mind, with Darron Gibson's face.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 November 2011 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

Gibson is fit again, ominously

Number None, Friday, 18 November 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

He's stolen Cleverly's life force

Number None, Friday, 18 November 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

sadly and disgustingly they all melt into luke chadwick's face in my mind

Alan Shearer (ken c), Friday, 18 November 2011 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

Don't ask me how i know, but today is Luke Chadwick's birthday

Number None, Friday, 18 November 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

Is that you, Luke?

Chris, Friday, 18 November 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

If i only i had a tenth of Luke's footballing ability or looks

Number None, Friday, 18 November 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

self ughfacing

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 18 November 2011 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

HB LC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alan Shearer (ken c), Friday, 18 November 2011 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

only a 194m loss, huh.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 November 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

squad worth = ?
trophy likelihood = ?

Building something for the future tbf

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 18 November 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

'self ughfacing' is ilfcelsior material par excellence youse unworthy savages

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 18 November 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

I was wondering what it was

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

ffs

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

welcome back football, i missed you so.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

I can't remember being less enthused, personally. The novelty of the weekend's big game being Man City v Newcastle is the one redeeming feature.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

Per Motherfucker

― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, October 26, 2011 8:30 AM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark

mizzell, Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

Mertesacker out.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

that was fucking embarrassing.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

we could have bought a proper centre half but noooooooooooo.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

I was gonna say Norwich look vaguely threatening if Morison's first touch wasn't so bad and then they gift him that

Number None, Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

Martin doing great work as auxiliary keeper

Number None, Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

3rd time they have cleared the ball off their line - I think we should sort this out.

Of course you can never actually count on Arsenal to do a job.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

is the back of Morison's shirt missing an R? or is it just Morison? Either way, it looks wrong.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

apparently that's his name. Clerical error somewhere down the line i'm guessing.

Shit celebration.

Number None, Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

thank you based gervinho (for not fucking it up.)

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

theo-rvp is a killer partnership.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

Mertesacker, what a piece of shite. Surely one of the worst signings of Wenger ever (and that's saying something)

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

there's that first touch

Number None, Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

RVP-Feo indeed working like a charm this season

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

Statistically speaking, when is RVP due to get injured again? Has he ever gone as long without an injury like now?

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

good old fashioned tackle from Vermaelen there

Number None, Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

Hoolahan looks quite good. Trap out

Number None, Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

Mertesacker, what a piece of shite. Surely one of the worst signings of Wenger ever (and that's saying something)

― I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:14 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol he's still fucking leagues ahead of silvestre

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

Statistically speaking, when is RVP due to get injured again? Has he ever gone as long without an injury like now?

― I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:16 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

please don't tempt fate.

rvi has always been injured by dudes in game, none of his injuries have ever really been from reoccuring problems. so, presuming he is just kept away from chiellini or shawx etc. for a while, then... sweet jesus, plz don't tempt fate.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

rvp stays out forever tho, tbf, it's the same concern i'd have about bale

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

Don't worry Sam, you seem like a nice guy, so as someone who can literally alter fate I'll let this one slide :)

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

Ps. Oh yeah, Silvestre lol. Not hard to guess why I completely blocked him from memory

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

huh? what does this have to do with bale? or do you just want to change every subject to spurs?

norwich have looked awful. they have no shape, no first touch, no eye for a pass. if it wasn't for mertecunter and their one cracking centre half, this would be a bloodbath.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

Andy Craig on Twitter: "Taking the girlfriend to her first ever game today. Disappointingly, it's Wigan vs Blackburn, therefore likely to be her last too #BBCFootball"

Then take her to a better game you twat

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

You don't deserve a girlfriend if you take her to Wigan vs Blackburn ffs

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

I should use twitter more for important things like this shouldn't I?

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno, I've had girlfriends I have hated and wanted to make suffer before. Never went that far though.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

xp I was doing a quiz of 'most premiership appearances for Man Utd' midweek, genuine o_Os at seeing Silvestre at about #10.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

Fergie likes them "versatile"

Number None, Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

guy hosting my stream is tweeting his ex-girlfriend in some shoddy english. *awkward*.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

haha

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

was watching a stream of some Arsenal game a while back where the guy went straight on twitter to abuse Piers Morgan at full time

Number None, Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

i dont think it should just be arsenal games that compel people to do that.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

lol

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

That's a *shocking* miss

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

GAHHRVINHO

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

fucksake gervinho

RvP's body language not v.positive to gerv on the whole

gorge sears (cozen), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

gervinho is fucking shit.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

otm

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

i wanted him to be good, but GAAAAAAAAAAARH.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

He's an odd fish. Does some things well and then...

Number None, Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

never looks fully in control

of himself or the ball

gorge sears (cozen), Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

There was a 4-on-2 break about 5 mins ago ended with him nodding into the goalie's arms, nobody looked surprised or even that fussed.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

to know him is to love him

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

LEGEND

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

class (in a glass)

gorge sears (cozen), Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

At least you've got one good player forward

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

great finish

Gervinho so lazy there in staying offside

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

That's how you do it Gaahhrv

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

Hmmm, seems my stream has slipped a few minutes behind

Number None, Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

Edgy 'bent wrist' celebration from rvp now.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

man i love rvi.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i'm in total fanboy modus again

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

lol what the shit was that celebration?

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

racist iirc

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

I missed the first, did he celebrate by mocking the disabled?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

It's odd that now that Arsenal are so dependent on one person, Walcott is completely growing in his shadow

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

The Spanish commentators on my stream sure like saying PIILKIINGTOOON

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

Mertesacker

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

shameless dive

mizzell, Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

well done down for booking holt for that

mizzell, Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

lol at holt's 'run away from ball, at player standing there, fall down, wonder why a penalty isn't given'

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

*dowd*
xp

mizzell, Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

and we narrow the gap to 9 points! the race is on!

...

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

Lol I hope the above mentioned twitter guy is a Latics fan. His gf must be heading for the exit already

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

soft penalty, 1-0 Wolves, somewhat against the run of play

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCeG35Ihxjs (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 November 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

looking okay today tho, decent match

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCeG35Ihxjs (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 November 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

Penalty to City

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

Nonchalant finish from Mario

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan playing 3 CBs?

Chris, Saturday, 19 November 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

2-0 now, static defending

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

so barring a newcastle comeback, man city will have played roughly 1/3 of the season and dropped a total of 2 points.

pandemic, Saturday, 19 November 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

not good enough

Chris, Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

lol

pandemic, Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

"A huge groan at the Etihad stadium as the scoreboard reveals there are no Chips available at half time! #BBCFootball #MCFC"

I mean 2 points dropped and no sodding chips! £400m doesn't buy you much these days!

pandemic, Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

Newcastle had a couple of decent chances just before City scored, but they were the type where you have to be really sharp to score (difficult header & a shot that only opened up for an instant) and they don't have the quality to score those.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

Ben Arfa hits post, very unlucky

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

this game is good fun!

caek, Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

Comic disallowed goal from Agüero when it's dinked through to him (miles offside), Newcastle all stop before he touches it, Yaya Toure comes steaming through from five yards back to bury it only for Agüero to steal it off his toe and score, at which point the flag finally goes up.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

3-0, another penalty

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

Newcastle aren't even that bad, but Man C are clinical even when not playing superb

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

Everton miss 2 open goals in the last 2 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCeG35Ihxjs (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

I've been impressed with Newcastle, they're everything a non-top-six side should be

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

I've been impressed with Newcastle too, despite desperately trying not to be ;_;

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

wolves have barely made any effort to score second half, so he subs on Jarvis with 10 minutes to go just to make sure we don't

Joe Hart is Fellaini Hunter (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

Blackburn trying to pull the old fake corner routine, failing, and somehow having the goal allowed
http://www.twitvid.com/ERZ1B

Number None, Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

cunt of a pathetic referee gives Everton a soft penalty to even things up, 2-1 Everton, crappy McCarthy-esque performance second half

Joe Hart is Fellaini Hunter (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

Uh-oh xp, that's a proper shocker.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

oh dear

caek, Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

Former England and Middlesbrough manager Steve McClaren at Etihad Stadium on BBC Radio 5 live: "This has confirmed what we thought we knew: Man City are emerging as a top top side who really could win this Premier League title."

Steve attempting some hybrid style of content-free Jamie Redknapp enthusiasm and Nultian epistemological pretzels, with your license fee funding it

MPx4A, Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

newc score

caek, Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

I finally found a Wigan stream, six mins' stoppage time

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

ffs mccarthy, sign a left back then fuck off

Joe Hart is Fellaini Hunter (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

Utter shambles from wigan

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

They deserve to be relegated right now for that.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

Why so much stoppage time?

Chris, Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

No idea, but they held the ball easily for four, then gave away a cheap freekick, cleared that only to immediately give away an even cheaper free kick, then put that out for a corner, there's no time left now so Robinson comes up and in the fracas gets kicked in the head - at head height, clear penalty. About as stupid a passage of play as you'll see.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

Rubbish. Come on Bobby!

Really looking forward to Swansea-Utd. No Allen today. 4-2-3-1 with Routledge, Dyer and Sinclair ahead of Britton and Gower?

Chris, Saturday, 19 November 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

Carrick making his first start of the season. So that's something

Number None, Saturday, 19 November 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

ffs

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 November 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

aw, guy who does the classified results at the end of grandstand is doing it for the last time today. i always liked his voice.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

game has been boring, but it's been p pleasing to see two teams look like being comprised of professional footballers ito technique and passing

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

ok but if you actually want to see that and not be bored/have to see carrick munchen 0-1 dortmund is on

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

hmmm pro tip ta

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

This is so boring I'm losing the will to watch

The Wichita Referee's Assistant (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

tbf professional performance

Jones close there

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

Ha - move of the match

The Wichita Referee's Assistant (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

again i recommend a certain match. you can see jerome boateng play like wank and remember the olden days of city being a shittier team.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

ryan taylor had a complete horrorshow

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 November 2011 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

the handball was mental

Number None, Saturday, 19 November 2011 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

If Newcastle keep that up all season they won't lose too many.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 November 2011 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

:(

Joe Hart is Fellaini Hunter (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 November 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

Has anyone ever looked less likely to score a one on one than Gervinho? You just know he's going to fuck it up every time. Looks great till he gets there mind...

grandpa aaron knows how to live (onimo), Saturday, 19 November 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago)

Chamakh.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 November 2011 07:36 (thirteen years ago)

thing is guy that doing it on the weekend, there most probably won't be enough people around to 51 you.

Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:20 (thirteen years ago)

Limitations of submod powers painfully apparent.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:23 (thirteen years ago)

"it's just like watching Facebook"

Buster Mottrhymes (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:33 (thirteen years ago)

according to Shearer Paul Robinson turned in "a dream performance" I think it was, which is an interesting way of describing letting in three shit goals

Buster Mottrhymes (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:34 (thirteen years ago)

THATS THE WHOLE IDEA BUDDY THE TRAFFIC IS USUALLY LOW AROUND ALL THE FORUMS IN WEEKNENDS BY THE TIME THE ADMINS WOULD RETURN FROM THEIR DRAINS AFTER EATING ALL THE PIG SHIT THIS PLACE WILL BECOME PIG SHIT

Newgod, Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:35 (thirteen years ago)

for robinson, only three is a p good day

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:36 (thirteen years ago)

tbf I've had dreams like that

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:37 (thirteen years ago)

SportsDirect @ Official Newcastle United forum - FA Cup winners 2011/12, Europa League here we come!

Let's take the footy chat here guys, this fool hasn't found that thread yet.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:39 (thirteen years ago)

I AM ONLY INTERSTED IN SPAMING THE I LOVE EVERYTHING SECTION ASSHOLE DONT YOU GET THE POINT

Newgod, Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:40 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think he really loves everything.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:41 (thirteen years ago)

I wasn't talking to you xp

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:43 (thirteen years ago)

HEY THEN FUCK OFF THIS THREAD ISMAEL KLATA WELL ARE YOU MUSLIM OR WHAT THEN THAT MAKES SENSE ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORSITS SO YOU MUST BE ONE TOO

Newgod, Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:44 (thirteen years ago)

Terrorsits is how I describe awkward bathroom breaks.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:46 (thirteen years ago)

YOU CAN BE A TERRORIST AS WELL HOY HOY WHO KNOWS MAYBE YOU WERE BEHIND THE 9/11 ATTACKS

Newgod, Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:47 (thirteen years ago)

I was the most evil 11 year old.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:49 (thirteen years ago)

OH SO YOU ARE 12 YEARS OLD NOW

Newgod, Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:49 (thirteen years ago)

yes. 9/11 happened last year iirc.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:50 (thirteen years ago)

OKAY SEEMS YOU KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT 9/11 ONLY CRIMINALS KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT A CRIME THEY HAVE DONT SO I AM SURE YOU WERE BEHIND 9/11

Newgod, Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:55 (thirteen years ago)

Are you a blackburn fan? We need a Blackburn fan.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:56 (thirteen years ago)

WHAT IS BLACKBURN BROTHER

Newgod, Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:58 (thirteen years ago)

if you are a stoke fan i'm gonna ask for my sb to be rescinded so y'all can hopefully stay.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:02 (thirteen years ago)

BAN ME I DONT CARE ABOUT GETTING BANNED ACTUALLY I JOINED UP JUST TO GET BANNED SO I DONT CARE TO STAY

Newgod, Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:03 (thirteen years ago)

Blackburn are the Pride of India. They're really good.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:03 (thirteen years ago)

such a stoke fan thing to say. classic.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:04 (thirteen years ago)

NEVER HEARD ABOUT BLACKBURN MAYBE YOU CAN POST SOME OTHER DETAILS ABOUT THAT

Newgod, Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:05 (thirteen years ago)

they really love chicken.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:06 (thirteen years ago)

OH YOU MEAN THEY REALLY LOVE YOU

Newgod, Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:07 (thirteen years ago)

as a vegetarian, i really enjoy yr ironing

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:09 (thirteen years ago)

YEAH KEEP ENJOYING THEN

Newgod, Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:09 (thirteen years ago)

Ha, pwn3d.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:10 (thirteen years ago)

wait did beckham retire?

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:11 (thirteen years ago)

HEY WHY DONT YOU GO DO SOME PORN AND THEN YOU TUBE IT SO THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE IT FOR FREE

Newgod, Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:12 (thirteen years ago)

No, he's taking his MLS swansong tonight, then joining PSG.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:25 (thirteen years ago)

lol what? how did I miss this? did his contract expire or is this like him going on loan to Milan?

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:27 (thirteen years ago)

HEY GET A TEST TUBE THEN FILL IT WITH WATER AND PUT A STICK INSIDE IT THEN PUT IT IN A FREEZER THEN IT WILL BECOME ICE DIDLO THEN PUT SOME FUEL ON IT AND SET IT ON FIRE IT WILL BE FIRE AND ICE DIDLO THEN STOVE IT DEEP UP YOUR ASS FOR ALL I CARE ABOUT PSG AND MLS

Newgod, Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:28 (thirteen years ago)

His 5-year contract's up (already!). PSG move will be permanent I believe.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:28 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah that seemed a quick 5 years! Can he still play? PSG just in it for the global image rights, yuh? Do they have to change their sponser from Nike to Adidas like Galaxy had to? So many questions, so little interest now I think about.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:30 (thirteen years ago)

HE CAN SURELY JOIN GAY PORN INDUSTRY

Newgod, Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:31 (thirteen years ago)

Ha. No idea, now I think about it I haven't seen him for years. Assume he can still play, but not run.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:32 (thirteen years ago)

YOU CAN RUN OFF THIS PLACE IF YOU WANT NO ONE WILL MISS YOU

Newgod, Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:33 (thirteen years ago)

I think keeping his eye in for the Olympics genuinely is his aim now.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:33 (thirteen years ago)

oh shiii he's not going to be managing team gb is he?

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:35 (thirteen years ago)

Stuart Pearce is. Keep up man, this is what everyone's talking about.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:36 (thirteen years ago)

i have shamed ilf

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:37 (thirteen years ago)

The actual team will be picked by government committe though, to ensure both acceptable diversity and presence of Beckham.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:37 (thirteen years ago)

It will be designed to appeal to the same demographic as that charity game with Gordon Ramsay and Robbie Williams, and will be great.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:42 (thirteen years ago)

HEY MOTHERFUCKERS ANYONE HERE EVERY HAD SEX WITH A MAN WELL I AM SURE YOU ALL ARE GAYS SO THAT IS A STUPID QUESTION RIGHT??

Newgod, Sunday, 20 November 2011 10:07 (thirteen years ago)

i was frankly delighted with the tera patrick shots

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 November 2011 10:36 (thirteen years ago)

one month passes...

HEY THEN FUCK OFF THIS THREAD ISMAEL KLATA WELL ARE YOU MUSLIM OR WHAT THEN THAT MAKES SENSE ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORSITS SO YOU MUST BE ONE TOO

― Newgod, Sunday, 20 November 2011 08:44 (1 month ago)

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Thursday, 22 December 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

so yeah, john terry triumphed over adversity and all is right in the world of fitba again

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Thursday, 22 December 2011 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

I had no idea John Terry had been trolling this thread before ILX broke

The Wichita Referee's Assistant (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 23 December 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, is this where we're discussing it now?

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Sunday, 1 January 2012 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

1 month passes...

I never want to see this on an EPL thread again

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 January 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

that's what june is for tbh

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 00:13 (thirteen years ago)

Upset I missed the coming of Newgod to this thread

bomb.gif (dan m), Monday, 2 January 2012 04:45 (thirteen years ago)

it was fun

we moved to the newcastle thread iirc to actually discuss football

because you couldnt not still discuss football

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 January 2012 06:26 (thirteen years ago)

Been thinking a lot about the Suarez report and something about his total inability to speak any English seemed odd, then I read this:

Suárez was 19 years old when he went to play for Groningen. Initially he struggled because he did not know Dutch or English, and he played on the second team to adjust to the Dutch game. His teammate and fellow Uruguayan, Bruno Silva, helped him settle into living in the Netherlands and playing for a new team. He worked hard to learn Dutch and his teammates respected him for his efforts with the language.

(Liverpool Echo via Wikipedia)

He was at Groningen for the same amount of time as he's been at Liverpool to date, and played as many games for them. What made them so different that he learned the language and culture extensively (bearing in mind Dirk Kuyt gave evidence Suarez is fluent in Dutch)? Has he never seen his future in England, maybe? I'm not suggesting for a minute there's a giant cover-up and he speaks like Jan Molby, but his behaviour does seem rather inconsistent with his past actions.

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Monday, 2 January 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

I guess a few Spanish/Portugese (and one Dutch) speaking players at Liverpool, and maybe there weren't at Groningen?

Number None, Monday, 2 January 2012 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

You're right, google suggests Bruno Silva was the only other Spanish speaker at Groningen. On the other hand, why limit yourself to only being able to peak to 6 colleagues at your employer? He clearly has the ability to learn languages quickly, yet testified he doesn't even understand what referees say to him.

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Monday, 2 January 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

i'm guessing picking up languages gets tougher as you get older and immeasurably wealthier

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

and when it comes down to it, professional footballers spend remarkably little of their day actually at their club. The rest of the time you can just hang with your entourage and play FIFA

Number None, Monday, 2 January 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

I'd've thought someone making an effort to learn the language to a rudimentary conversational level would be far more impressive to a Dutch person than an anglophone. It can't be very common. Whereas here we are criticising a guy who's been here eleven months for not understanding referees.

Also, it's far more difficult to learn the language as shouted on a football field than sitting down in nice language classes. I wouldn't be confident of picking up much during a match in France, for example, and my French is excellent.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 January 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

i played minor hurling vs gaeilgeoirs once it was a considerable advantage iirc, but imo hunnert grant a week + every support from club + 150 free hours = eight months in you're writing letters to the fucking times

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

All PL clubs have language teachers on-site and it'll be compulsory for almost all players who aren't EU citizens to learn. Not sure whether that applies to Suarez.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Monday, 2 January 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

My last post on pre-broke ilx was slating Gervinho for missing so many one-on-ones. Glad to see he's turned something of a corner on that front.

grandpa aaron knows how to live (onimo), Monday, 2 January 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

compulsory? xp

caek, Monday, 2 January 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, it's a condition of most non-EU footballers' work permits that they learn a basic level of English. They would lose the right to stay in the country if they didn't.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Monday, 2 January 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

^ knowledge

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

How has Tevez gotten away with it then?

Number None, Monday, 2 January 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

Might not apply in the same way to players who have been here for a number of years as the rules are relatively new. Could affect him if he needed to get his permit renewed, though. It's also possible that his English is better than it comes across on TV.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Monday, 2 January 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

carlos tvteeze

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

He may well have Italian or Spanish nationality (as may Suarez) and therefore not need a permit - it's very common for South American players as a means of working in the EU.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 January 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

dodgypassportLAD

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

Actually, I've just looked it up and it's more basic even than that - it's a condition of Tier 2 immigration from the Borders Agency (the criteria used by sportsmen - some can use Tier 5, which has no language requirement but is only valid for <12 months) that you get 10 points in the 'English Language' category. The way to do this is to come from a listed country whose official language is English, hold a degree in English or provide evidence you have sat the approved English language test.

Therefore either the assertion Suarez fails to understand any English is a lie, or he lied on his visa. This could get weird.

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Monday, 2 January 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

lfc obv need to get benitez back ont hte payroll as conspiracy spewing assistant, this is going to get too much for dalglish alone

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

xp, there seems to be a way for footballers to play here for a limited amount of time and demonstrate English proficiency when they're here. May be that they come in on a Tier 5 and apply for Tier 2 within a year. The level of English needed isn't that high so it isn't often a huge problem for someone who has been in the country nine months with one-on-one tuition.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Monday, 2 January 2012 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

The FA still need you to do the English exam to switch:

Tier 5 to Tier 2 switching

Players may enter under Tier 5 without the need to demonstrate the competency in English required under Tier 2. Players may then apply to switch to Tier 2 as soon as they have passed the examination in the English language at the appropriate level. For this the club will
need to obtain a new endorsement and issue a new Certificate of Sponsorship. If at the end of the maximum 12 months he cannot meet the English language requirement he will need to return home and obtain further entry clearance for another 12 month period under Tier 5.

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Monday, 2 January 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, that's right. He'll need to be able to speak basic English within the first year of his contract if he doesn't have an EU passport. That's why clubs put so much emphasis on learning.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Monday, 2 January 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

You'd have to wonder whether the club telling the FA in an official hearing they've failed to meet that condition is a wise move then...

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Monday, 2 January 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

http://u.goal.com/160700/160737hp2.jpg

gorge sears (cozen), Monday, 2 January 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez has had at least one English lesson btw - he posted a pic of him in class on Twitter. He also did an interview after the... Everton match I think it was.

Chris, Monday, 2 January 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

Has Drogba really moved to PSG btw?

Chris, Monday, 2 January 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

eight premier league seasons in and wayne routledge has his first premier league goal. \o/

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Monday, 2 January 2012 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

Therefore either the assertion Suarez fails to understand any English is a lie, or he lied on his visa. This could get weird.

― 50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Monday, 2 January 2012 15:38 (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

he could have just got a dutch passport during his time at ajax?

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 January 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea goal: How big a goal will this prove to be for Chelsea and their manager Andre Villas-Boas?

being a chelsea fan just now must be v stressful, it seems that their entire season rests on every goal.

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Monday, 2 January 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

remember when people took chelsea seriously?

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 January 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

Villa need to sort their shit out, I need a draw for me accumulator.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 January 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

chelsea will still finish above spurs tbh

nah chris drogba still a blue iirc

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

1643: GOALFLASH Wolves 1-1 Chelsea (Stephen Ward)

gorge sears (cozen), Monday, 2 January 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

Form of champions

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 January 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

chelsea will still finish above spurs tbh

i know harry-goes-to-court cld have a big impact but rly no fucking way this happens imo

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 January 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

Steve Kean gets his team to beat Utd atway this week and still gets fucking booed. Fans are savages.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 January 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

savages > hypocrites

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 January 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

Well they'd look stupid if they went back now wouldn't they?

Number None, Monday, 2 January 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

they're not fickle like arsenal fans tbf

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

I just don't see it as Kean's fault. I also don't think you'll attract anyone of a higher class to pretend that chicken is king.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 January 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

venkys open doors

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 January 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

kean's fault lies in his willingness to accept large sums of cash to front up for comedy owners

his fault lies in his willingness to accept large sums of cash to pretend to be a manager of exceptional ability when all the evidence makes the reverse patently obvious

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

aka "the Staunton"

Number None, Monday, 2 January 2012 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

exactly the staunton

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

textbook staunton

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

when did kean pretend to be a manager of exceptional ability?

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 January 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

accepting large sums of cash to manage in the epl

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

pffft post-rafa that means nothing

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 January 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

Coq or Djourou at LB? Wonder if Arsene even knows...

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 January 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

god gervinho

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 January 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

Big Send is unlucky.

James Mitchell, Monday, 2 January 2012 18:17 (thirteen years ago)

lol theo gets worse every game bale gets better

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 January 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

1848: Alex Song's foul on Clint Dempsey gives Steve Sidwell a free-kick to work with and he almost uses it to maximum effect, striking just over from 30 yards. They are definitely competing better now Fulham, and also looking more dangerous around the Arsenal box when the openings come.

surely maximum effect means he'd score? i hate bbc livebloggers.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 January 2012 18:52 (thirteen years ago)

i think you just got lens cleaner tbh xp

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

almost uses it

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 January 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

i hate bbc livebloggers too tho

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 January 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

as u will have known

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 January 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

yes, and "almost" means he didn't

xxxp

grandpa aaron knows how to live (onimo), Monday, 2 January 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

under cosh this past 5 mins

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

hoy looks to have misread the text update and has literally paid the ultimate price as a result

MPx4A, Monday, 2 January 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

he has literally almost completely misunderstood it

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

jesus christ gervinho

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 January 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

now that is a shit defender

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

squill have been

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 January 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

lol i did misread that huh

i guess i am just so used to their awful commentary phrases

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 January 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

ffs djourou

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 January 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

Sidwell's a former gunner?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 January 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

dgvbjokn;lsw\bvz

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

wenger's close to a former gunner himself imo

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

Woooooo bobby z

carstens, Monday, 2 January 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

sigh

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 January 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

Z

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 January 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

jol never bothered to beat them with us iirc

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Monday, 2 January 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

Warms the heart to see a genuine outpouring of emotion like this
http://ninpo.qap.la/images/chelsea-grouphug.gif

Number None, Monday, 2 January 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

http://ninpo.qap.la/images/chelsea-grouphug.gif

Number None, Monday, 2 January 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

vyash bwash is such a flaky pos

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 January 2012 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

Could've done without the Chelsea winner, but otherwise this is quite the weekend.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 January 2012 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

Apparently Arsenal had more shots on target in the first half than in any game in its entirety this season. Then gave the worst second half performance of the season, including Old Trafford. The sooner Gervinho trots off to the African Nations', the better.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 2 January 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

Has Gary Neville always had a look of Lionel Messi about him, or is it just 'cos I'm watching on a proper telly tonight?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 January 2012 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

vague resemblance

coloccini looks quite a lot like messi

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 January 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

that's a bit overstated heh

still a little bit like him tho

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1943/coloccini.jpg

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 January 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01330/Cheats_03_1330350a.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JUJfVs_edgg/TbOecrlERlI/AAAAAAAAB7w/Fh8sAyrdiKc/s1600/Lionel_Messi2.jpg
Separated at birth?

The Wichita Referee's Assistant (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 2 January 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

So Bradley Johnson was at the darts:

http://a.yfrog.com/img864/8954/qyrpl.jpg

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 2 January 2012 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

an-sen is back to add some colour to the somewhat monochrome lineup for the storied reithians

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 January 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

Man, Swansea are fun.

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 2 January 2012 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

"Any doubt for you that they won't be a Premier League team next season?" "No doubt whatsoever."

Erm.

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 2 January 2012 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

Bastard of a finish from Barton there.

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 2 January 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h477/intermania71/arsen.gif

Number None, Monday, 2 January 2012 23:28 (thirteen years ago)

Adriaanse fired, Schhhhteeevveeee McClaren back at FSAY TWENTY

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 08:56 (thirteen years ago)

That's the worst air guitar I've ever seen

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 09:08 (thirteen years ago)

Woop woop

Keane back at former club Spurs pending possible loan deal - Reuters

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

fuck the fuck off

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

This is a bit like when Beckham trained with the squad last year, or when Dwight Yorke was training with United during the Australian closed season. The possible loan deal is with Villa.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

Saw the headline, had to post instantly, sorry gents. Keane to Villa, Bent to Liverpool - everyone's a winner there imo.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

Kieran Richardson to Arsenal? Please please let this happen

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

A 'he'll do for 5 months until we buy someone better in the Summer' signing if ever there was one.

pandemic, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

Gibbs is supposedly back by early Feb and Santos late Feb. And Verm's injury isn't serious. Getting a 4th choice LB isn't a bfd. Plus he is less embarrassing than Bridge.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

rlly fucking hope wenger is looking at a proper replacement for chammy chams and ol' photoshop* tho.

*happy w/ him actually playing the dude we bought for 10m+ this summer but thats a long shot.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger should sign Michael Clegg next.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

How on earth do you remember Michael Clegg? I thought he only played about 3 times.

The Wichita Referee's Assistant (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool drop Suarez appeal, ban starts now. Right decision imo, but I thought they'd play him v City first.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

statement is still an embarrassment

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

well they wouldn't want Suarez helping out Utd would they?

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

It is our strongly held conviction that the Football Association and the panel it selected constructed a highly subjective case against Luis Suarez based on an accusation that was ultimately unsubstantiated.

Luis Suarez
GettyImagesLuis Suarez's team-mates wore T-shirts in a show of support

The FA and the panel chose to consistently and methodically accept and embrace arguments leading to a set of conclusions that found Mr. Suarez to "probably" be guilty while in the same manner deciding to completely dismiss the testimony that countered their overall suppositions.

Mr. Evra was deemed to be credible in spite of admitting that he himself used insulting and threatening words towards Luis and that his initial charge as to the word used was somehow a mistake.

The facts in this case were that an accusation was made, a rebuttal was given and there was video of the match. The remaining facts came from testimony of people who did not corroborate any accusation made by Mr. Evra.

In its determination to prove its conclusions to the public through a clearly subjective 115-page document, the FA panel has damaged the reputation of one the Premier League's best players, deciding he should be punished and banned for perhaps a quarter of a season. This case has also provided a template in which a club's rival can bring about a significant ban for a top player without anything beyond an accusation.

Nevertheless, there are ultimately larger issues than whether or not Luis Suarez has been treated fairly by the Football Association in this matter. There are important points we want to make today that overshadow what has occurred during the past two months.

The issue of race in sports, as in other industries, has a very poor history. Far too often, and in far too many countries, the issues of racism and discrimination have been covered over or ignored.

In America, where Liverpool ownership resides, there was a shameful bigotry that prevented black athletes from competing at the highest levels for decades.

English football has led the world in welcoming all nationalities and creeds into its Premier League and its leagues below, and Liverpool Football Club itself has been a leader in taking a progressive stance on issues of race and inclusion. The Luis Suarez case has to end so that the Premier League, the Football Association and the Club can continue the progress that has been made and will continue to be made and not risk a perception, at least by some, that would diminish our commitment on these issues.

Liverpool Football Club have supported Luis Suarez because we fundamentally do not believe that Luis on that day - or frankly any other - did or would engage in a racist act. Notably, his actions on and off the pitch with his teammates and in the community have demonstrated his belief that all athletes can play together and that the colour of a person's skin is irrelevant.

Continuing a fight for justice in this particular case beyond today would only obscure the fact that the Club wholeheartedly supports the efforts of the Football Association, the Football League and the Premier League to put an end to any form of racism in English football.

It is time to put the Luis Suarez matter to rest and for all of us, going forward, to work together to stamp out racism in every form both inside and outside the sport.

It is for this reason that we will not appeal the eight-game suspension of Luis Suarez."

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

xp. the origial statement or this evening's?

Chris, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

both

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

that is some shameful shit

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

Hmm. Not ideal, but not harmful except by slighting Evra again, and probably what solidarity demands. Best forgotten as of now.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

seems fair to me

Chris, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

they should have apologized

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

"he didn't do it, nobody saw him do it, you can't prove anything, the FA hates us, our owner's a yank so luis suarez can't have done anything racist, luis suarez has been pictured beside a black kid smiling so he can't be racist, they believed evra's evidence but not suarez and that's de facto unfair, this is a pro-utd conspiracy, we're not racist but, we don't think suarez is a racist so he can't have done anything racist,

but

we're accepting this unfair punishment'

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

here's the ideal statement-

"Liverpool Football Club acknowledges and accepts the findings of the independent inquiry into the incident of alleged racist abuse of Patrice Evra by Luis Suarez. We will not be appealing the 8 match ban and will endeavour to ensure that everyone connected to Liverpool Football Club demonstrates at every opportunity the belief that calling a fellow football professional 'blackie blackie blackie' during a confrontation is fucking racist for fuck fucking's sake'

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

they're not into the whole brevity thing

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

and yes, absolutely an apology for the incident,an apology for the conduct of the club, manager and players from the incident until the verdict and an apology to patrice

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

and they should wear patrice evra t-shirts during warmups from now until the end of the ban

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

First of all I would like to thank everyone so much for all the help and support I have received during these last few weeks.

Thank you to my family, my friends and everybody at LFC (the staff, manager and coaching staff, the directors, my team mates and everyone who is working on a daily basis for this great club) and thank you especially to all the fans who made sure I never felt let down for one second. During those days I understood more than ever what 'You'll Never Walk Alone' means.

Like many of you I was born into a very humble family, in a working class neighbourhood, in a small country. But I was born and raised learning what respect, manners and sacrifice mean. Thanks to my family, from my first club where I started playing, to my transfer to Holland in Europe, I learned the values which made me the person I am now. Never, I repeat, never, have I had any racial problem with a team mate or individual who was of a different race or colour to mine. Never.

I am very upset by all the things which have been said during the last few weeks about me, all of them being very far from the truth. But above all, I'm very upset at feeling so powerless whilst being accused of something which I did not, nor would not, ever do.

In my country, 'negro' is a word we use commonly, a word which doesn't show any lack of respect and is even less so a form of racist abuse. Based on this, everything which has been said so far is totally false.

I will carry out the suspension with the resignation of someone who hasn't done anything wrong and who feels extremely upset by the events. I do feel sorry for the fans and for my team mates whom I will not be able to help during the next month. It will be a very difficult time for me.

The only thing I wish for at the moment is being able to run out again at Anfield and to do what I like most which is playing football.

Thank you very much.

YNWA

Author: Luis Alberto Suarez

gorge sears (cozen), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

rough looking team

Reina, Johnson, Enrique, Agger, Skrtel, Henderson, Downing, Spearing, Adam, Kuyt, Carroll

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

rough in about sixteen different senses

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

Ach, I'd assumed this meant Bellamy would be raring to go.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

Gerrard too.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

defence is p good rest of team p waste

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

dmac I am v close to plagiarizing your post to use to troll some american pool fans that will. not. shut. up. about this

but I won't

bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

i'm over it now tbh

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

my new tv will allow me to watch spurs stream & sky picture at once

awes

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

It is our strongly held conviction that the Football Association and the panel it selected constructed a highly subjective case against Luis Suarez based on an accusation that was ultimately unsubstantiated.

The FA and the panel chose to consistently and methodically accept and embrace arguments leading to a set of conclusions that found Mr. Suarez to "probably" be guilty while in the same manner deciding to completely dismiss the testimony that countered their overall suppositions.

Mr. Evra was deemed to be credible in spite of admitting that he himself used insulting and threatening words towards Luis and that his initial charge as to the word used was somehow a mistake.

The facts in this case were that an accusation was made, a rebuttal was given and there was video of the match. The remaining facts came from testimony of people who did not corroborate any accusation made by Mr. Evra.

In its determination to prove its conclusions to the public through a clearly subjective 115-page document, the FA panel has damaged the reputation of one the Premier League's best players, deciding he should be punished and banned for perhaps a quarter of a season. This case has also provided a template in which a club's rival can bring about a significant ban for a top player without anything beyond an accusation

there's got to be a good chance that this segment leads to an increased ban, fine etc

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

Red and White Kop bringing the requisite 'do it for Luis' defiance tonight

MPx4A, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

shit sorry can a mod googleproof that, probably not cool to namedrop racist websites on here

MPx4A, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

oh snap

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

torres in absentia drogba vs carroll in absentia suarez

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

Are Liverpool going to wear t-shirts for Norris and Dobson tonight?

The Wichita Referee's Assistant (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

ouch

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

"What kind of balls does Andy Carroll want?"

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

awesome material xxp

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

'what's the difference between john terry and a mongoose'
'john terry is a racist cunt! loooool'

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

fucks sake Downing

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

really struggling to get sopcast to stick on a spurs stream

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

tell us more about this new telly of yours

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

ffs never mind

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

nice save.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

What *was* that?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

Replays do not indicate anything besides the kind of goalkeeping that got Almunia a job at West Ham. Horrible.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

We looked very ropey after that blow but much better lately. City look almost-deadly on every break though.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

that was a lot of fuss for nothing

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

Is 35 minutes too early for a Gerrard super sub appearance?

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

yah

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

still tho they have adam

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

'Steve McManaman - Cult Hero' on my stream has cheered me up at least

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

there's got to be a good chance that this segment leads to an increased ban, fine etc

Why? Trying to be as fair and balanced about this as possible, but there are some inconsistencies in the report - the FA deeming Evra's initial comment not to have been offensive but coming to the conclusion that what Suarez said probably was, accepting that Evra's 10 times comment was just a figure of speech, letting Evra see video footage before Suarez. I think Liverpool could have done better, and an apology for any offence taken wouldn't have gone amiss, but after reading all 115 pages, I'm still none the wiser.

Chris, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

Crikey, what a stunner from Gardner in Wigan-Sunderland

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

but after reading all 115 pages, I'm still none the wiser

probably can't help you then, Chris

The Wichita Referee's Assistant (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

Can't wait for this McClean lad to be ostracised by Trap

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

these cunts are destroying us in the not-nice way, ref shy of showing his cards

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

defoe 1-0 tho

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

some sort of poetic justice in seeing that the two dull, respectable british midfielders benitez failed to buy are now outclassing dalglish's dull, plodding british types while playing for citeh

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

gallas limps off, sandro hamstrung, bale lucky (as always) to avoid bad ankle injuries

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

im not saying j.spearing is uglier than twp but he manages to find uglier expressions, somehow

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

bellamy is great tho, and he scowls prodigiously

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

This is painful

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

dusgraceful fucking call

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

Crikey. Couple of soft yellows for Mr Barry.

The Wichita Referee's Assistant (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

citeh understandably if rather pathetically cautious, liverpool's entire plan is to work the angles necessary to cross it high to £35m

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

sending off is str8 dogshit of course

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

lol

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

Mancini brandishing an imaginary red card and bounding down the touchline.

The Wichita Referee's Assistant (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

justice for cheapshot srtl

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

pen is just equalizing the shitty decisions

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

excellent dive

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

foul tbf, knee to back leg mate

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

waving imaginary red card in english fitba is worse than like killing an opponent or something

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

Hopefully the game will descend into a brawl and a few more non-imaginary reds will be shown.

The Wichita Referee's Assistant (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

It's a bit undignified for a manager like

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

dignity, thy name is ferguson

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

They're getting all irate about the penalty decision on the commentary, gawd knows why.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

They're getting all irate about the penalty decision on the commentary, gawd knows why.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

glad i can finally admit i am actually Fergie

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

ffs we're giveing wba all the possession for the last five mins

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

tackling on bale all night didn't even pretend to be in the spirit of the game, cunts

1-0 finish

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

srsly tho u don't usually get that from hodgson sides iirc? and west brom aren't notably violent or cloggy for epl also rans

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

not usually, but it was most of what they had tonight

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

sick burn from Kompany there

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

i hope vidic returns in good form but if he doesnt kompany >>>> vermaelen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

king

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

32 next season

great player but nearly done

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

That was brutal. We were game enough, competed and created chances of sorts, but the gap in quality is enormous. it reminded me of every gang-of-plucky-brits-try-their-luck-against-clinical-serie-a-outfit humiliation from the 90s.

Also, the extent to which these guys go to (FBs apart, a bit) to avoid having to put in a cross, it's no wonder Carroll's not working out.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder if Steve Bruce still feels aggrieved?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

even more so

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

i dont think they had any angles to get to £35m, citeh's fullbacks kept liverpool's wingers from hitting the byline and dms dropped back to crowd the box

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

yeah but Downing

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

0 goals 0 assists iirc

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

but after reading all 115 pages, I'm still none the wiser

probably can't help you then, Chris

wrong choice of words perhaps, but basically this:
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=284771.msg9687877#msg9687877

Chris, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

oh no you didn't

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:32 (thirteen years ago)

have suarez, dalglish or any other representative of LFC denied that suarez called evra 'negro'

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

i'm just wondering

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

However, on Suarez own account, the word “negro” had been used once by this point. According to Suarez, this is where Evra said don’t touch me “south American” and Suarez replied “porque negro”.

Commission: Even though PE did not allege “negro” said at this point, Commission decide it was said. LS did allege “negro” said at this point, Commission say he is lying about the sentence used, but decide “negro” said at this point. Furthermore, the Commission base this finding on fact that PE’s face registered “surprise” at this point.

emphasis mine

i mean ffs- the commission decided suarez said what he said he said? the bastards!

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

it would be good if there was some independent investigation into the incident tbh, you'd think this could have been organised by now

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

gif of Reina failing to kick the ball in his net after he let the soft goal in pls.

Sugary pee is not normal (aldo), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

check fouls/cards stats

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/match/2012/jan/03/tottenham-hotspur-v-westbrom

and i'm not kidding about halsey letting them away with maybe 3-4 other yellow card cheapshot tackles on bale alone- i think 3 of the 5 cards were for late tackles or tackles from behind on bale

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

maybe a manager should be called to answer a few questions about stats like that

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)

He obviously didn't get the memo about Spurs being a big club now

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

never really thought about the duties of a ref in priority order, but 'protection of footballers from thugs' would be #1 in my putative list tbph

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

http://h9.abload.de/img/wenger-guitarepa4d.gif

subtle combination of the week in memes.

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

He obviously didn't get the memo about Spurs being a big club now

― Number None, Tuesday, January 3, 2012 10:44 PM (19 minutes ago)

heh

they have a good team

they are not a club

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

not a ~big~ club

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

never claimed the distinction, wouldn't want it

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

small club mentality

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

small clubs w/ comparably sized mentalities can still prosper when the bigs are losing to craig gardner and paul robinson (gk, 240lbs)

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

also i don't want to be cap'n-churl-a-deems but 'refn' doesn't sound anything like 'road'

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 23:20 (thirteen years ago)

it doesn't have to, imo, to make it work

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 00:06 (thirteen years ago)

damn u blowing minds like refn main

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 00:15 (thirteen years ago)

Every bit as bad was the moment in the report when we learn that Damien Comolli, the club's director of football, and Dirk Kuyt, the Liverpool midfielder, changed their statements after realising that Suárez had given a different account to them. It is cringeworthy reading Kuyt's attempt to deal with this discrepancy in his witness statement. "I am aware that LS will state in evidence that what he actually said in response to the remark from PE was (translated into English) "Why, black?" or "Why, negro?" and I am perfectly happy to accept that this is what he said. I may have misunderstood what he was saying or perhaps sought to interpret what he was saying as what I thought LS might have said when, in fact, it was not what he said."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/03/liverpool-loyalty-luis-suarez-contrition

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 00:20 (thirteen years ago)

a blind man could see that

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 00:34 (thirteen years ago)

that liverpool forum thread is a treat

caek, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 00:59 (thirteen years ago)

lol RAWK is no more 'that liverpool forum' than robert mugabe is 'that rhodesian chap'

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 01:15 (thirteen years ago)

holy shitlols

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 02:29 (thirteen years ago)

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/blog/dirty-tackle/post/A-breakdown-of-Liverpool-8217-s-final-statement?urn=sow-wp7864

The Wichita Referee's Assistant (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 07:31 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2081937/Where-does-John-W-Henry-stand-Luis-Suarez-Martin-Samuel.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

The Wichita Referee's Assistant (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 07:35 (thirteen years ago)

Has Kenny actually gone mental then?

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 10:44 (thirteen years ago)

nah, just a sort of bigoted man

Alan Shearer (ken c), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sdCnhYDbSQ

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 11:23 (thirteen years ago)

dalglish out, i thought this dude would bring some stability and sense to the place ffs

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

i'm being provoked thru email here tbf

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

kind of dreading the game at Old Trafford now

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

it'll be cool, liverpool fans will prove Suarez is innocent by their immaculate conduct and refusal to bait Evra

Nogood (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

fitba

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

<3 bent to liverpool

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)

berbs & santon adding some starpower to the otherwise humdrum fixture

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

no Obertan tho :(

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

Utd formation?

http://www.surrealfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/fish.png

boxall, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

otm

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

De Gea and Evans aren't playing but looks right otherwise

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:32 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.surrealfootball.com/2012/01/04/inverting-the-pyramid-what-next/

this is kinda funny

fuelled by a heady mix of absinthe, angry hookers and Serginho DVDs played backwards (“Through the haze, it seemed as if the big man were playing a series of exquisite first-touch flicks to his team mates from wild passes thrown at him by members of the crowd,” says the author)

boxall, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

Fergie not denying that De Gea's been dropped. Interesting

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

i thought he'd say de gea isn't used to playing thru christmas/ny

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

the sky comparison is a bit specious given that lindegaard has been playing vs some v little fish

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

cold, wet Wednesday in Newcastle tbf

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

and yeah, agree about those stats. Lindegaard has impressed me though, and he gives good interviews.

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

they will not have liked it up em, they will have have thought

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:45 (thirteen years ago)

also dwight yorke's suit doesn't look particularly noteworthy? think ferguson might have polished off a bottle of sthing on the coach

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

think it was a bit rumpled or something? Dwight always gives off this weird fan vibe

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

<3 dwight, typical laid back charmer like all these caribbean lads, u just want to cast him in a totally not clichéd or racist rum or soft drink commercial

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

'he's gone through the ramadan like'

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

sippin on some syrup

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

he'll be wanting to 'chop and screw' united's back shift backline tonight

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

*makeshift*

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

Are Sky/BBC contractually obliged to call it the Sports Direct Arena?

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

yes

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

i thought it was the sportsdirect.COM arena but seemingly not, it's either SDA /or/ sportsdirec.om @ st james park

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

i will 4ever resent this diminishing of the hypnotic assortment of ponytails, taches, mullets, mercenarys and cunts that is newcastle 2010.

― r|t|c, Sunday, August 22, 2010 10:34 PM (1 year ago)

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

awesome buildup squandered by twp

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

rio's right foot tripped ba

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

eh tbf ferdinand's foot is there and ba's almost scissored around it

oh yes!

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

!

boxall, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

that is a beaut

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

sports *direct*

boxall, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

vv good game so far

twp is the weakest player on the pitch so far imo, carrick looking excellent tho

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

Great goal, tbf

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

wow

gorge sears (cozen), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

raising a glass of sizzurp to ba

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

black & white drank

gorge sears (cozen), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

i've not been around for the firsty 40min, is the second half worth tuning in for?

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

id guess so

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

could always watch barca vs lj faves osasuna tho

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

santon will not have been delighted by it up him

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

nufc are a lot closer to liverpool than to any of the shite beneath them

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

smh at twp but it's the fact that Nani isn't firing that's really hurting us. Proper game though.

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

anyone watching everton/bolton? wondering how old Lando is getting along

bomb.gif (dan m), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

Craig in Aberdeen on text: "Berbatov's hold-up play and distribution is world class, rarely puts a pass wrong. Top quality."

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

Not watching but from reading text updates it sounds like he's been their biggest threat (xp).

boxall, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

dwight yorke is full o shite

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

hes wrong on this

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

berbatov is playing?

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

at least Rooney has distinguished himself in his awfulness

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

'arry is gonna bid £25m for Ba isn't he?

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

Anonymous on text: "DEMBA - BA! OOHH DEMBA DEMBA - DEMBA BA! (To the tune of Byker Grove)."

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

Jones, you idiot

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

holy shit

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

You have tried to insert a duplicate message.

boxall, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

what a strike

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

fuuuuuuuuuuuck

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

Blimey

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

that was about as beautiful as a free kick can be

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

tyler must have a good angle on it, he called that in the air

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

omg my stream's way behind but... wow

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

cabaye ay ay

gorge sears (cozen), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

otm

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

Shld Ba be talked about as one of the best players in the world? I kind of perversely want to see him w/ Jose at Real.

He was so good at Hoffenheim before the injury problems, and now he is good enough to make *NEWCASTLE* look a legit team.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

Shld Ba be talked about as one of the best players in the world?

no, that would be like including gervinho in your alternative ballon d'or poll

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

If you're OK with 'best players in the world' lists 200+ deep then sure. Otherwise he's just very good.

boxall, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

very good, on form and in the right team

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

i mean tbf even twp goes through spells like that

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

08/09 33 (14)
09/10 17 (5)
10/11 29 (13)

boxall, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

Dude performs week in week out like not many strikers out there, imo. for 2011 he should be talked in the same regards as rvp, cavani, aguero, hulk, torres, gomez...

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

ba = tbtwp

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

bravo

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

lols

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

tbf i christened yakubu the bwp on another thread some time ago iirc

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

cabaye = the french scholes

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

(i don't get what twp stands for)

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

wouldn't be surprised if Rooney caps this with a sending off

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

I suspect Hernandez could've gotten to some of these crosses.

boxall, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

howard

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

scores

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

tim howard scored!

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

'the white Pele' iirc xps

boxall, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

rooney will walk in this game

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

holy fuck

bomb.gif (dan m), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

I would've seen that, except for the pop-up ad that appeared in the middle of my stream.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

tim howard ensures that he finishes ahead of robbie keane in the goals column btwn now and may

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

I saw that one.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

how did Howard score?

boxall, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

"freak bounce"

and he has now gifted one back to bolton

bomb.gif (dan m), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

my dad remembers pat jennings scoring

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/01/28/article-1246894-08111F1B000005DC-947_468x411.jpg

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

woah when i were a lad, paul 'fatty fucks' robinson scored against watford

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

^

somone scored a header once, but it was a long time ago and they moved away after the war

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

phil jones exhibiting a rare flair for that peculiarly english trait of sporting leadership AKA 'shouting lies'

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

this is my favourite keeper scoring moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KejwqhLDeOs

kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

eat it

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

itt rolling KEEPER GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAALZZZZZZ

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

http://theoriginalwinger.com/2012-01-04-video-everton-keeper-tim-howards-goal-vs-bolton

bomb.gif (dan m), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

Anderson modelling himself after Tiote. Sound strategy

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

big leon best

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

How close will Spurs be to 2nd (assuming United lose this)?

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

gary cahill leavs bolton with something anyway

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

three behind with a game in hand

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

fuck

gorge sears (cozen), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

also has it been pointed out how much ba looks like gucci mane?

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

still worried more about chelsea than i am thinking about catching utd

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

and i'm not sayign anything else in case i get into trouble

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

nice injoke from pardew introducing james 'right off their fucking' perch

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

Seems to be a free-kick every ten seconds at the moment

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

Andy in Cambridge on text: "Lionel Perez took a penalty in his farewell appearance for Cambridge United. He missed, but hit it so hard that the opposing keeper had to go off injured. Great moment."

kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

lol

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuEGHHoZGM

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

. great moment.

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

Not all that surprised at ManU losing so much as to in which fashion. They didn't stand a chance.

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

scottish commentator just did that 'whose got the strongest bench' thing in regards to newcastle, which is always stupid but even moreso when the team is 2-0 up and about to win. who the shit gives a fuck about those NOT playing when yr team is winning and fit?

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

those with foresight

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

wenger knows

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

jones don't

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

lol

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

joneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

that is clownish

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

real poachers goal

wrong footed the keeper and everything

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

and to think he turned us down for utd

he would have fit in so well with us after that

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

Baines hit the bar in injury time but EFC didn't really warrant a point - dismal.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

Not looking forward to City in the cup this weekend.

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

oh fuck i'd forgotten

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

coloccini has been v impressive tonight

wonder how this would have turned out had he been rightfully banned for his assault on bellamy

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

when did ynahtid last lose three in a row

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

A PLACE OF PARTY

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

http://i41.tinypic.com/vyl7ae.jpg

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

pa✧✧✧@sportsdirectar✧✧✧.c✧✧

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

This reminds me of Xmas 2002 iirc. United had been crap and off the pace then battled back with wins over Newcastle, Liverpool and Arsenal to go level at the top (I think) only to lose back-to-back games against no-hopers and promptly fall six points behind again.

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

that was actually a lot worse than the City game

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

Agreed.

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

oh, i doubt that

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:14 (thirteen years ago)

v City we were being slightly outplayed by the strongest team in the league until Evans got himself pointlessly sent off. Even with ten men we looked alright, just ended up conceding a ton of late goals. Tonight we were comfortably beaten by a very average side just days after being beaten at home by the worst team in the league.

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

oh, i doubt that
I think NN means the performance, rather than the psychological damage

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

yes, and you summed it up nicely

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

Agreed with NN. ManU looked apathetic.

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

i think yr rewriting the extent to which citeh outclassed you on home turf, and it wasn't the three late goals so much as the more advanced possession game of silva etc

two of tonight's goals came from wind-assisted 70+ yard passes

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

yes but City have the most expensive squad in the world. Utd offered absolutely nothing tonight. No control, no passing, just shit.

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

How many shots on target did we have? there was that block on the line from Rooney...

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:24 (thirteen years ago)

'comfortably beaten by a very average side'

nah, not at all, krul/coloccini/santon/cabaye/tiote/ba are pretty fucking far from average in the context of the current premier league, and they didn't even play ben arfa or vukcic

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

ynahtid were shit, but you know, congested fixture list, backshift backline etc etc

vs citeh they were at home and had pretty much the entire first xi who had been tearing apart the lower orders in august

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

6 - 6 shots on target

4 - 0 off target

6 - 6 corners

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

51% - 49% possession

16 - 15 fouls

1 - 2 yellow cards

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

the backline is makeshift all the time now

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

as is the midfield really

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

I loathe Coloccini, fwiw. I like Tiote more and more and Cabaye has moments of genius. Having Ba up front, whether scaring defenses, scoring or just holding makes everybody look better on that team.

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

Man U seem to be in a position of pretty extreme flux. While you're at it, Number None, what do you think of Ferguson's attacking options?

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:32 (thirteen years ago)

ba just shoots from any position and very effectively, he doesn't rly keep possession that well

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

Stuck with Rooney i suppose. Berbatov should probably go. Hernandez painfully limited. Welbeck, i like

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

he doesn't rly keep possession that well

Yet it seemd to me in the first half (didn't see the second) Newcastle ended up getting more throw-ins in United's half and many off of relatively daring balls up to Ba.

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

describing hernandez as 'painfull limited' highlights how EPL 'discourse' neglects the importance of finishing

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

i dont even rate , little pea that highly but he is probably the second best finisher in the division

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

and?

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

the painful limitations lie in the rest of the side who can't score consistently for shit

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

I like Chicharito a lot, but it seems that for some time now finding someone to partner effectively w/Rooney or some attacking threesome that includes him has been problematic or at least somewhat inconsistent. I worry that Rooney has become a fetishized striker who should be playing somewhere else; attacking midefielder perhaps.

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

we tried that. didn't work

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney and Welbeck are the only two that have looked like a proper partnership to me

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

when did ynahtid last lose three in a row

My first guess was the autumn of 1996 - I know there were back-to-back defeats (5-0 Newcastle and 6-3 Southampton) and I know there were other defeats around that time (Chelsea, Fenerbache) but I don't know if there were three in a row. I'm trawling through the stats now to try to find out. I've found three *league* defeats in a row in Nov/Dec 2001 (Arsenal, Chelsea, West Ham) but there's a CL victory in the middle of them.

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

we tried that. didn't work

With what attackers and what other midfielders? Was it a diamond or was Rooney playing central left?

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

finding someone to partner effectively w/Rooney

that's not how ferguson works, he has four variously talented forwards who he combines with varying effectiveness depending on various other factors

nobody of any consequence rly relies on a a single forward 'partnership' any more

the midfield is far weaker and far more of a problem for them

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

which Ferguson will continue to ignore

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

Remember when Rooney was on his way out? Fergie made a big mistake not flogging him to the neighbours imo. Could have ended up w/ Aguero while city just made posters w/ ol hairplugs.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:49 (thirteen years ago)

Ah, in April 2001 United won the league with three games to spare and a fourteen point lead over Arsenal. They then lost all three final games (Derby, Southampton, Spurs).

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:49 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney in midfield wasn't actually that bad, but he just sat back and sprayed the ball around without getting involved in the forward play at all. We just can't afford to lose him from the attacking third, despite his frequent shitness

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

nobody of any consequence rly relies on a a single forward 'partnership' any more

amoebi&ba; kun&mario; torres&anexistentialquestion

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

Cleverley's promised Christmas return has melted away as well.

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

aguero and balotelli have barely played in a 4-4-2, if they have played together this season then it's mostly a 4-2-3-1 with one of them playing lw

ameobi and ba isn't a regular partnership either

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

dude it was quite obviously a joek retort

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

Cleverley's promised Christmas return has melted away as well

...and Smalling's 'tonsilitis' seems to be lasting an impossible amount of time

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

this whole 'what is to be done with twp' is tiresome and wrong imo

twp is a very good player, and quite similar to suarez and tévez, streaky forwards with notable tenacity, strong intangibles and extracurricular problems that need careful managing

there isn't some sort of magical solution that will enable twp to 'fulfill his potential' -- this is about as good as he will get, sometimes great, sometimes not, a valuable franchise player but not an all-time great

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that's fair

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

he's gives off such a bad vibe when it's not happening for him though

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

he's p much walcott if he was a white northern cunt. little talent hidden by a massive fee and a few great appearances a season.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

I was going to say I like how Utd have made Liverpool look good this festive period, but y'know.

Anyway, Utd angst is always entertaining, except that you've got a good chance hitting upon cures that actually happen and work.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

too far a hoy hoy, too far

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

tonight has been an insight into the emancipatory randomness of playing fitba in hurricane force winds

2k10s will see the emergence of links football, with matches played on the isle of skye, the shetlands and the faroe islands

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

also the too much hype for a 16 year old bit.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

Tim Howard didn't even look that happy

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

goalie solidarity maybe

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:13 (thirteen years ago)

Stuck with Rooney i suppose. Berbatov should probably go. Hernandez painfully limited. Welbeck, i like

― Number None

Wrong attitude

it seems that for some time now finding someone to partner effectively w/Rooney or some attacking threesome that includes him has been problematic or at least somewhat inconsistent

Getting waaarmer

Fergie made a big mistake not flogging him to the neighbours imo.

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kpexs7e8xS1qztl8ao1_400.gif

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:28 (thirteen years ago)

gabby yorath is powerful

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:28 (thirteen years ago)

btwn djourou, rooney and liverpool my henhouse is full this week tbh

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:32 (thirteen years ago)

those were some good goals sunderland scored, who's this mcclean lad

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:34 (thirteen years ago)

ferguson was fucked either way, the optics of selling yr franchise player to rivals would have been terrible, and w/ 18 months on contract the fee would be limited

doesn't matter that he might not be 'all that', cuz city could/would have bought aguero anyway

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:34 (thirteen years ago)

I like what I've seen of Nico Gaitan but he's more analogous to Nani than Scholes I think, won't bring composure to the center of midfield. Whichever of Utd, City, Chelsea gets to Joao Moutinho first will have scored a major victory imo. Javi Martinez would be a good buy too.

boxall, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:36 (thirteen years ago)

nil optics ni minimum

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:36 (thirteen years ago)

defoe is twhlwhbwp

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

Can't wait for this McClean lad to be ostracised by Trap

― Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:05 (Yesterday) Bookmark

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

ive heard a huge amount about javi martinez and never really seen him play more than a game or two. he seems like the type who'll end up at real for 10 years tho.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

twhlwhbwp

otm

carpy deems (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:41 (thirteen years ago)

He's Romeu-like I think, bigger though. Bielsa's turned him into a central defender this season.

boxall, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

McClean is another one we've stolen from the Nordies but have yet to cap

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

javi m is more expansive, on a good day he can look like effenberg, probably not going to be a defender at his next club

romeu is a thoroughbred defensive midfielder

spain could field an ~english~ second xi better than england

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:50 (thirteen years ago)

Tioté is very much the type of Roy Keane midfield enforcer Ferguson could desperately do with and there was little the outstanding he – along with Ba the key performer in an excellent home display – enjoyed more than dispossessing United's leading scorer.

the outstanding he - toh?

boxall, Thursday, 5 January 2012 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

Louise Taylor btw

boxall, Thursday, 5 January 2012 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

classic LT

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Thursday, 5 January 2012 00:36 (thirteen years ago)

it works imo

carpy deems (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 January 2012 01:09 (thirteen years ago)

has been corrected, halfway, to the outstanding the – along with Ba the key performer in an excellent home display – outstanding Ivorian ...

boxall, Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:57 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool striker Luis Suarez's mum has launched a passionate defence of her son in the wake of the Patrice Evra racism row.
Full story: Liverpool Echo

i wonder if suarez and konchesky had the same agent at liverpool

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 5 January 2012 05:06 (thirteen years ago)

united were rank awful last night. just nothing going through the middle, easily dealt with. it's a credit to ferguson that he manages to make such a shower punch above their weight.

rooney couldn't have fed the haters any more easily, one amazingly typical moment where he was flailing around at left back with about 20 mins to go.

also it hasn't been said enough, what the absolute fuck was phil brown trying to do? he went for a ball he shouldn't have gone for and then failed to head it and it hit his knee.

since i just noticed we're back, let me add that i also thought liverpool were quite good against city the other night, scoreline didn't reflect the performance.

but then liverpool are almost always good against the big sides now, that's not really the problem.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:38 (thirteen years ago)

phil jones, not phil brown.

but it also hasn't been said enough, wtf was phil brown trying to do?

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:39 (thirteen years ago)

oh and finally, has anyone dealt with ferguson's utterly mad "cleverly, the best midfielder in the country" shit yet?

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:39 (thirteen years ago)

Budweiser has signed up football managers Sam Allardyce and Ian Holloway to star in radio ads highlighting its sponsorship of the FA Cup, which reaches its third round this weekend.

The 30- and 60-second radio ads have been created by Anomaly London and feature the West Ham United manager Allardyce and Blackpool manager Holloway giving their own rousing team talks.

They stress the importance of a great atmosphere, team spirit and support of the crowd, before listeners realise the managers are talking about preparations for a good night out after they chant: "Grab some buds".

The ads will run throughout The FA Cup third, fourth and fifth rounds. The FA Cup fifth-round ad will feature another British manager to be confirmed later in the season.

Iain Newell, Western European marketing director at Budweiser, said: "As lead partner of The FA Cup, Budweiser is committed to promoting this iconic tournament like never before.

"What better way to demonstrate this than by recruiting some of the biggest voices in UK football to front this radio campaign? These men perfectly sum up what it means to be part of and lead a team, and the adverts create a real sense of the anticipation of good times."

http://offlinehbpl.hbpl.co.uk/news/OMC/assets/audio/Bud%20ad.mp3

James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 January 2012 10:39 (thirteen years ago)

nothing screams professionalism more than shilling mediocre beer

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 January 2012 10:44 (thirteen years ago)

They stress the importance of a great atmosphere, team spirit and support of the crowd, before listeners realise the managers are talking about preparations for a good night out after they chant: "Grab some buds"!!!

I LAUGHED UNTIL I DIED.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 January 2012 10:48 (thirteen years ago)

These men perfectly sum up what it means to be part of and lead a team

1999–2007 Bolton Wanderers
2007–2008 Newcastle United
2008–2010 Blackburn Rovers
2011– West Ham United

James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 January 2012 10:49 (thirteen years ago)

ffs thanks for the spoiler, guys

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

chillax ismael, wasssup?

Alan Shearer (ken c), Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:24 (thirteen years ago)

Rousing stuff alright, I'm a human dynamo now.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

true, true.

Alan Shearer (ken c), Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

let me add that i also thought liverpool were quite good against city the other night

this is madness

Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:47 (thirteen years ago)

not really, they dominated possession, they just were poor at using it to create chances. in the first half they played quite good football. 3-0 flattered city at any rate.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 January 2012 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, City were quite happy to let them dominate possession as there wasn't a hope in hell they were going to score. Liverpool had no plan beyond lumping it to Carroll and I lost count of how many of their crosses hit the first man. Can't remember them creating much beyond a tame enough Adam (who was beyond awful) free-kick.

Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

6-1 flattered city too but they're still going to walk it, aren't they?

Alan Shearer (ken c), Thursday, 5 January 2012 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

i thought liverpool were very good in spells too. They just lacked the final ball.

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Thursday, 5 January 2012 12:39 (thirteen years ago)

possession is the most mendacious stat in the game, it's about how u use the ball. a lot of world class teams will let the opposition have as much possession as they want in non-dangerous areas.

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 January 2012 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

not if they're actively first to all the 50/50s. city played a v dangerous game and were giving it away constantly, yes they defended well but no good team sits back with that amount of carelessness. the fact liverpool weren't good enough to punish them doesn't exonerate them. possibly just a lack of confidence based on some bad results but that was like trapp or benitez style once they went two up.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 January 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

well i'm not thinking specifically of Liverpool in that match tbh, i've seen too many Wolves games (and others) where somebody says we played well cos we knocked the ball about in the middle of the pitch all day and had 1 shot on target.

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 January 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

fuck the pundits' attitude to the resurrection of St Gerrard btw but i think there's something to the idea that he's the only Liverpool midfielder who's realised that Carroll will only be any use if he gets early crosses to his head.

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 January 2012 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll plaintively entreating his team-mates to "whip it in" in the centre circle before the kick-off was a rather pathetic sight.

Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

he's rubbish with his feet for a big man

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 January 2012 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

fuck the pundits' attitude to the resurrection of St Gerrard btw

OTM. Liverpool fans don't even like the cunt.

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

^ sorry, went at bit Boaby Gillespie there

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

mourinho's inter vs barca was the apex of 'possession is for wankers' tactical approach imo

carpy deems (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

as a rule i like possession football better than counter-attacking, but the bare percentages in the match stats tell you very little

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

Andy Carroll's woes at Liverpool continued with a poor display in the 3-0 defeat to Manchester City, but statistically he is at the club that suits his game the most. Liverpool attempt 30 crosses per match in the Premier League this season, more than any other – Everton are next best on 27 per match, with Manchester United on 26.

While this figure doesn't take into account the position of the cross, nor the quality of the ball played into the box, it's still staggering that Liverpool cross the ball into the box every three minutes. Whatever the reason for Carroll's poor form, it certainly isn't a case of Liverpool not trying to play to his strengths.

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Thursday, 5 January 2012 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

looooooooool

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 5 January 2012 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.101greatgoals.com/pot-kettle-black-video-footage-of-patrice-evra-calling-chelsea-mother-fker-n/130332/

had to happen

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

doesn't take into acount the lack of support or runs coming into the box either, half the idea of a big man is making life miserable for centre halves so ferrets like bellamy or maxi can pick the loose balls off. None of that at all in the last match.

carpy deems (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zabaFDXufgQ

i will never stop loving zlatan

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

oh shit it was from training. shld read the small print first.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.101greatgoals.com/pot-kettle-black-video-footage-of-patrice-evra-calling-chelsea-mother-fker-n/130332/

had to happen

― I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:00 (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that's a somewhat short-sighted pot calling a blind-folded blind kettle blind tbf

Alan Shearer (ken c), Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

That Evra clip has been around for aaaages. I mean "suck my pussy Lampard" is an all time classic.

Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

evra is actually christine bleakley

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

...ranting as if he had turrets...

Ummm

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

tim timminey tim tim terroo his name is tim howard and he says "i am a castle"

Alan Shearer (ken c), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

<3

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Thursday, 5 January 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.darlofc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15733&sid=3d0eadd00bfd4a12a0afd8354fa748c1

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Thursday, 5 January 2012 18:52 (thirteen years ago)

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/7779/489539857.jpg

cozen, Thursday, 5 January 2012 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

So.... Lampard to United?

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

fuck no

Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

oh god it's a real thing

Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

Get the feeling there is an important goal to come from Lampard this season.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

deflected via Michael Owen's arse

Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

Evra is actually christine bleakley

― jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Thursday, January 5, 2012 4:38 PM (5 hours ago)

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

https://twitter.com/#!/search/%22fergie%20out%22

James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

He's still a good player, like, but at United? Now?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

From looking at the front page of tomorrow's Star i now also know that Georgia Salpa is going to be on Big Brother. A day which will live in infamy.

Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

And Drogba to Villa? That would be superb.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

SALPA

carpy deems (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

Drogba to villa is three years too late, they needed a proper CF back when they had Young and Agbonlahor taking teams to pieces and a CB pairing of Laursen/Mjellberg

carpy deems (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

if Lampard goes to United he'll get to visit Molineux again this season, what a treat

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2082879/Manchester-United-want-Frank-Lampard.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

That reads like a done deal, subject to the Glazers. It *is* quite Fergusonian.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

yes, that's my fear

Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

I don't believe it myself. Unless AVB has told him hes not wanted.

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:22 (thirteen years ago)

That article looks like it's been briefed by both sides though.

What is his track record with this sort of signing? Guys like Blanc, Larsson, even Owen could be considered successes, but each within very limited parameters.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:31 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, the kind of parameters that make shit up

carpy deems (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:32 (thirteen years ago)

ayveebs would be glad to get rid of a fifth columnist in his midst

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

parameters for Owen signing was Fergie wanted somebody to talk about horses to iirc

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:34 (thirteen years ago)

xp yeah there's v little downside in jacking terry, lampard, maybe drogba on their wages, with their racism/weight/knee issues

carpy deems (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:35 (thirteen years ago)

a horse actually advised him to buy owen when he was holidaying in turin

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:36 (thirteen years ago)

nah that was van nistelrooy tbf

carpy deems (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

what is lampard the white version of

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

elephant

carpy deems (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

http://cdn2.hark.com/images/000/000/747/747/original.jpg

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:40 (thirteen years ago)

It was always a dream of his beloved mum, St Pat, for her little boy to play for Manchester.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:44 (thirteen years ago)

jesus that's a little strong

carpy deems (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

Surprised he would leave now, lampard's last shot at the Champions Lge , okay distant shot tbh, but still better than none at all. Would like to see a Giggs/Lampard CM pairing tho.

pandemic, Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

looking forward to a Carrick/Lampard CB pairing tbh

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

http://cprfc.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/lampard.jpg

carpy deems (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

Giggs should never start another game in centre mid.

Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

darragh thank u u've just made me feel great about my weight

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

yeah , it would be more for my own amusement tbh
xp

pandemic, Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

you just know what he's thinking there rrrichaaard he's thinking i've got to score there he'll be disappointed not to have scored there a player of his quality

carpy deems (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:48 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/soccer/2012/0105/1224309881511.html

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 00:04 (thirteen years ago)

otm

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 00:04 (thirteen years ago)

Rafa 'arry says he needs just one or two more signings to win the title.

James Mitchell, Friday, 6 January 2012 00:24 (thirteen years ago)

Adebayor, another right winger, another left back, and morph gallas & king into one CB of that class who's gonna be fit.

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 00:26 (thirteen years ago)

saw a Samba + Hoillet rumour earlier

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 00:32 (thirteen years ago)

samba added to dawson bassong khumalo king gallas kaboul

i dunno like

hoillet- cuts in a lot from the left, shoots a lot

i dunno like

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 00:34 (thirteen years ago)

samba at tottenham would be two months of 'immense' 'collossus' 'titan at the back' before the commentariat tacitly agree he can't really play football and he's quietly shelved next to bassong, khumalo, kranjcar, pienaar etc

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Friday, 6 January 2012 00:37 (thirteen years ago)

i'm a great believer in pairing centre halves into 'lumper'/'classy', strikeforces into 'poacher'/'big man' and corporal punishment

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 00:39 (thirteen years ago)

In September 2011, Hoilett expressed interest to play for Canada. His father intervened as he believes Jamaica has potential for more endorsements.

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 00:40 (thirteen years ago)

1) lilt

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 00:41 (thirteen years ago)

vs sippin on some (maple) sizzurp

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Friday, 6 January 2012 00:42 (thirteen years ago)

damn, now i want a lilt

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 00:43 (thirteen years ago)

ya srsly

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 00:43 (thirteen years ago)

http://pics.livejournal.com/kirisutogomen/pic/0001qxwy/s640x480

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Friday, 6 January 2012 00:47 (thirteen years ago)

So apparently Liverpool are interested in Gomis, and Bent to Liverpool aint happening.

Chris, Friday, 6 January 2012 01:17 (thirteen years ago)

bent to lfc wouldn't have worked anyway tbh, he struggles at a team that holds possession

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 01:36 (thirteen years ago)

we should start a transfer rumour guys. Who's got twitter traction?

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 01:39 (thirteen years ago)

ok, how bouttt...lampard to utd??

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 01:40 (thirteen years ago)

how about torres to utd?

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 6 January 2012 01:41 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney - Carroll swap deal

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 01:42 (thirteen years ago)

gomis is a fairly talented player

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Friday, 6 January 2012 01:43 (thirteen years ago)

shot

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 01:43 (thirteen years ago)

hmmm what's a good rumour

Carroll to spurs cutprice has ring of truth to it

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 01:44 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Robbie-Savage-nude-Stricly-Come-Dancing-star-poses-naked-for-Cosmpolitan-magazine-article849575.html

i was ever so tempted to disguise the url but I thought id be nice

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 6 January 2012 01:47 (thirteen years ago)

what kind of disgusting savage etc etc

zappi, Friday, 6 January 2012 02:17 (thirteen years ago)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xF6Fs-uNO9U/TwXXQF3acmI/AAAAAAAAC2c/G61j0Spou5k/s400/NewcastleArabLook.jpg

bomb.gif (dan m), Friday, 6 January 2012 05:13 (thirteen years ago)

Harry Redknapp has vented his anger at his Spurs players for following the latest Premier League trend of cutting up their socks.

The Tottenham boss is furious that his players continually cut the feet off their socks and use tape to cover up their handiwork.

Redknapp blew his top in the dressing room after getting frustrated at the bizarre practice.

Players are cutting up their socks and, instead, use short tennis ones, with supposedly better traction, to get more of a grip in their hi-tech boots.

That explains why so many Premier League players are now using tape to cover up their secret.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Tottenham-players-are-cutting-the-feet-off-their-socks-as-part-of-bizarre-Premier-League-trend-article849608.html

James Mitchell, Friday, 6 January 2012 08:57 (thirteen years ago)

5 CLUES TO DISCOVER IF YOUR CHILD IS A SOCK-CUTTER

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 January 2012 09:09 (thirteen years ago)

I've read that article twice and I still don't understand exactly what players are doing. Are they wearing tennis socks then taping their kit socks on to the top? Why don't they just get the kit people to make their socks as they want them, rather than cobbling socks together?

I also lolled at Arsenal’s Robin van Persie and Aaron Ramsey and Manchester City keeper Joe Hart often have rolls of tape around their socks.

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Friday, 6 January 2012 09:40 (thirteen years ago)

They're wearing tennis socks, with their modified club socks basically as leg-warmers. Makes practical AND fashion sense imo. Why Redknapp should have blown his top is the real mystery here.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 09:48 (thirteen years ago)

taking backhanders from Puma

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 January 2012 09:54 (thirteen years ago)

i'd imagine there's some level of financial consideration for the club, yeah

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

In wearing the foot part of the sock? Top draftsmanship by Puma lawyers if so.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

This is a bit like Martina Navratilova getting freaked out by this young German kid called Steffi, starting to use the same racket as her (Dunlop Max 200G), but stencilling the Yonex logo on the strings as if she hadn't switched gear.

Michael Jones, Friday, 6 January 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea midfielder Frank Lampard will not join Manchester United according to manager Sir Alex Ferguson.

Lampard has been linked with a surprise move to United but Ferguson is not expecting to sign any players in the January transfer window.

He said: "Do you really believe that? There is no foundation to it. We won't get the players that we would like.

"What can you get in January? What do you do? Do you take a second-rate player? No, of course you don't."

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 6 January 2012 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

if i were organising the legals for my sock to be part of an epl kit, you're feckin right i'd have it that it was the only permitted sock allowed. No point else.

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

Now is Lampard a player he likes who he can't get? Or a second rate player he doesn't want? AVB knows.

pandemic, Friday, 6 January 2012 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

i think the former

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 6 January 2012 12:39 (thirteen years ago)

It's Fergie so he'll be thinking the former and implying the latter

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 6 January 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

haha

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 6 January 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/images/dec_11/gun__1325282363_Henry9.jpg

James Mitchell, Friday, 6 January 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

lol at you guys actually treating a daily mail rumour about bloody fatty lamps going to utd

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 January 2012 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

I know he makes you happy and all, but has anyone checked whether he can still do stuff?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

Henry that is, we know Lampard can still take a penalty.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

henry came back to sell shirts and slap theo around the side of the head, not to play.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 January 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

Remiss to leave yourselves without Gervinho and Arshavin slappers, Arsene needs to get busy.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I saw that, how's it wrong? It indicates two passes, one's offside and the other isn't.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

coin designer otm imo

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

what's wrong with that coin? if you pass to the left is offside, pass to the right it is not? clear as mud isn't it?

Alan Shearer (ken c), Friday, 6 January 2012 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

haha xpost!

Alan Shearer (ken c), Friday, 6 January 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

Someone got paid for designing that?

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 6 January 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

I know right? In the article it's being argued that the player on the left isn't by default offside, only if he touches/accepts the pass, which is true. But you'd need one hell of a huge coin to get all that in. As it stands the coin's ok I think.

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

the guy stood offside isn't offside if he doesn't take the pass is the argument from some tedious pedant. clearly this is because the current interpretation of offside is really sensible and good.

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 January 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

£2 coin might be big enough, you could put the fine print round the edge

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

Tom D was 'tony hart land', it's just occurred to me

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe the other side of the coin says any player in an offside position when the ball is played is no longer automatically penalised. It states: "It is not an offence in itself to be in an offside position."

Instead, for the past 17 years assistant referees have been told to wait and see whether a player in an offside position becomes involved in active play, either by "interfering with play, or interfering with an opponent, or by gaining an advantage by being in that position". That means that if the midfielder on the coin passes to the striker on his left, but the striker chooses not to play the ball or interfere with an opponent, he is not offside and play continues.

y'know, in really tiny letters.

I bought a Lilt at lunch time, fwiw.

CraigG, Friday, 6 January 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

Tom D was 'tony hart land', it's just occurred to me

How'd you work that out?

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 6 January 2012 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno, it was bugging me the whole time sandbox was up and it just came in a flash there - I'm not analysing it lest I'm miles out

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

put "If a player is not interfering with play or seeking to gain an advantage, then he should be!" around the edge xpost

I was otherwise very normal before I became (onimo), Friday, 6 January 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

... in Latin

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 6 January 2012 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

or in Nult!

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

new offside law is pish tbh

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 January 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

lol at you guys actually treating a daily mail rumour about bloody fatty lamps going to utd

Oh, it *is* real, btw - Ferguson is trying to get him. Whether it will actually happen is another matter.

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 6 January 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

problem with that coin is i didn't design it. if i did it would be a man getting the ball first and being given a straight red anyway.

caek, Friday, 6 January 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

photoshop your london 2012 50p coin design here

Alan Shearer (ken c), Friday, 6 January 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

put it there caek

Alan Shearer (ken c), Friday, 6 January 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck the Olympics, leave football out of it (not literally)

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 6 January 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

Will be sure to bear this diagram in mind if I ever go for a kickabout with the Mr Men.

Matt DC, Friday, 6 January 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

'Arry hasn't heard of Ganso. Doesn't get to Brasil too often apparently (kind of odd that Spurs are being linked with him anyway)

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

not too many flight deals to brazil

Alan Shearer (ken c), Friday, 6 January 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

kept Ronnie Biggs out of harm's way long enough though

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I saw that, how's it wrong? It indicates two passes, one's offside and the other isn't.

― Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 13:58 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

there are no defenders in front of either of them, making them both offside?

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 January 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

Remiss to leave yourselves without Gervinho and Arshavin slappers, Arsene needs to get busy.

― Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 13:57 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

honestly, we can't be worse with aoc, miyaichi and benny noon getting some games. we could even be better. wilshere will be back soon too, and he started as a right winger.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 January 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that coin makes no sense to me

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

the squares are defenders (one goalie, one alongside the onside guy), the pointy up arrows are attackers.

I was otherwise very normal before I became (onimo), Friday, 6 January 2012 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

I've forgotten all I ever knew about Miyaichi. Also, what happened to Park?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

ah

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

Also, what happened to Park?

He played and people realised he was teh rubbish

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 6 January 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

The FA Cup third round is almost upon us - turn your minds to a thread title please.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

Andy Carroll wont score in dis ting - FA Cup thread.

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

(to tempt fate and he scores hat-tricks in every game)

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

'Every game' meaning the 4-3 home defeat to Oldham

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool fc <3 racists- the fa cup 2012

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

back when you could kick a ball in the street, the fa cup used to mean something & you kill a black man without being arrested 8 years later - but now its just FA CUP 11/12

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

not loving this strain of suggestion tbh

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

dont blame us blame cultural relevance

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

18 years later

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

oh yuh typo

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

because other than that typo, it was pure gold...!

CraigG, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

Traditional FA Cup thread title would involve a shout out to Tamworth or Fleetwood Town or someone.

Matt DC, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

FA Cup full of lilt 2012

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

Wait is it Fleetwood Town or Yeovil playing tomorrow?

Matt DC, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

'Wait is it Fleetwood Town or Yeovil playing tomorrow? - FA Cup Third Round & Onward 2012'

Matt DC, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

That'll do

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

That'll do

(erm - uncanny xpost)

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

ya

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

I goddamn missed the meaning of 'lilt' and feel so out of the loop now ;_;

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

I totally misread that and for a second thought Fleetwood Mac were in the FA Cup third round

EZ Snappin, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

lilt is not a meaning it is a totally tropical taste

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

Reggae Reggae Caribbean Crush or gtfo

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

its not made with levi roots's sauce is it?

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

Lilt is the business cos it's sparkling rather than fizzy but real heads will fondly sigh over a can of Ting

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

yo sharivari u r a generally cool guy w excellent hair iirc but boy i wil fuck u up in the worst way if this caribbean themed drinks war kicks off i need u to know that

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

dis ting

cozen, Friday, 6 January 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

is delicious

cozen, Friday, 6 January 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

The last time I can remember watching LFC on a Friday night we lost the League to Arsenal.

pandemic, Friday, 6 January 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

You didn't catch last week's game then?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

Who did we play last Friday? Newcastle? I didn't see it no, but I must admit I forgot that was a Friday.

pandemic, Friday, 6 January 2012 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

I tried to buy a can of lilt from a shop, possibly a baker's, in 1991, while cycling from Lincoln to Edale in the Peak District.

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:21 (thirteen years ago)

They made a thing in the commentary last week of it being the first Friday night game at Anfield since the Michael Thomas one.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

Wait, you *tried* to buy? What mishap ensued?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

They couldn't understand what I was saying.

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:29 (thirteen years ago)

Known in my house as the 'Barnes needlessly goes for goal when he should just waste time in the corner' one.
xxp

pandemic, Friday, 6 January 2012 18:30 (thirteen years ago)

It was in a little place called Clowne. I asked for a can of lilt. They looked baffled and kept saying 'akanalil?' to me. They had plenty of it in the fridge behind them. I appreciate it's probably extremely rare for someone from down south to venture into their bakery, but I don't think I have an impenetrable accent. Surely they watch TV?

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

Were they dazzled by your pearly suit?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

I did have mouthful of jellied eels, tbf.

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:37 (thirteen years ago)

I had to google lilt to have any idea what you f***ers were talking about.

and sold in the Seychelles, United Kingdom, Gibraltar and Republic of Ireland only.

Bah!

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

now you have an excuse to go to the Seychelles

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

^^ story of my day, too. And cosign on the Bah!

xp

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

Common Market letting you guys down badly here

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

deprived of the Lilt-man, shameful.

pandemic, Friday, 6 January 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

akanalil:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=BBJmw6ke17c&NR=1

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

I was gonna say no Lilt in Chicago either, however we have many many Mexican sodas to choose from -- Sidral Mundet ftw

bomb.gif (dan m), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

lilt. tot-ally tropical. lobsters on south beach. beer can.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

NBS in Clowne, caught on film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A_021cajac

jabba hands, Friday, 6 January 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

I was trying to find that clip

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

I did go into a tailor in London once, when my jacket or trousers needed fastening, and had a conversation like so:

"have you got a pin I could have please?"
"you want a pen?"
"no no, a pin"
"ah right, you're looking for a pin"
"yes"
*reaches into pocket, produces pen*
"why would you come in here to buy a pen?"

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/06/article-0-0F5B0FF400000578-31_468x645.jpg

cozen, Friday, 6 January 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

2209: In what may be a record, Manchester United and Wayne Rooney have issued a statement in which they have described a newspaper report that the England striker is about to leave the club as "nonsense". That was very fast work at Old Trafford.

2207: Frank Lampard to leave Chelsea, Wayne Rooney to leave Manchester United? This month's transfer rumours have certainly started in a big way. It's hard to imagine him leaving Old Trafford before the end of the season, but stranger things have happened. Where would he go?

2157: Some news from tomorrow's newspapers to bring you here, as the Independent reckon that Sir Alex Ferguson is ready to let Wayne Rooney leave Manchester United due to a breakdown in their relationship. That would be massive.

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 6 January 2012 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

Roo-d riddance, roo-re going nowhere, etc. etc. etc.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

end of the roo-d

pandemic, Friday, 6 January 2012 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

gtwpfo

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

Roo'd have thought

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool have been thrust into another race hate row, after a fan was arrested on suspicion of racially abusing Oldham player Tom Adeyemi.

The incident occurred towards the end of the FA Cup tie, when a fan screamed abuse at the young full back, and visibly upset, he turned to confront the man.

Adeyemi was visibly upset, and seemed to be in tears. Liverpool skipper Steven Gerrard moved across to the corner of the ground where the incident occurred, and comforted the 20 year old.

Eye witnesses saw two fans wearing Luis Suarez t-shirts, and heard one of them clearly shout "You f***ing black b***ard".

Police immediately moved in to restrain the two suspects, and later confirmed arrests had been made.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-new-racism-row-Fan-arrested-on-suspicion-of-abusing-black-Oldham-player-Tom-Adeyemi-article849913.html

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 6 January 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row race hate row

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)

Well that's just excellent, well done everyone.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)

"You f***ing black b***ard".

You f***ing blind b***ard, surely

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

Who could have possibly thought Suarez would behave badly after behaving badly in Holland and setting the wrong example in England?

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2012/01/breaking-news-oldham-player-in-tears-at.html

To be honest, there is so much anger about how Suarez has been treated by all these politically correct nobodies coming out and accusing Liverpool and Dalgish of this and that, I couldn't give a shit. I grew up on the banks of the Mersey, I'm a pure working class and I don't have time for all these liberal idiots. It's the FA's fault for lying. Have you been reading the Daily Mail all week?
...
I'm not suggesting the Oldham lad deserved it but if he was racially abused then it goes to show you that it doesn't really exist any more as he was shocked. So all this rubbish about racisim in football is just rubbish. Stoked up by idiots like Jason Roberts.
I live away from Liverpool now and constantly hear Scouse 'jokes'. Is that not a form of racism?

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 6 January 2012 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

Tell us more about the Iniesta wine, this is too depressing.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

Well, if you want a laugh, one of the other rumours going around is that Scholes is coming back for United

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 6 January 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

That's not funny, it would improve you.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

If we could somehow sign Scholes and Lampard from a few years ago, that would be great. Scholes retired at the right time, or perhaps a season too late (as opposed to Gary Neville who was definitely several seasons too late) - I'd be surprised if he'd be better now. Lampard... well, even though everything seems wrong about it, I could actually see it being a useful short term fix. If Chelsea lent him to us for a couple of months and paid half his wages. Like that's going to happen.

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 6 January 2012 23:12 (thirteen years ago)

Beckham over Scholes imo

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

Might as well get Butt and Keane while we're at it.

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 6 January 2012 23:25 (thirteen years ago)

Tell us more about the Iniesta wine, this is too depressing.

― Ismael Klata, Friday, January 6, 2012 11:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

:-D

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 23:28 (thirteen years ago)

You've been drinking it all night haven't you?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 January 2012 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

Tastes great? That's something in today's world right?

xp, yes, yes I have :-/

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

I grew up on the banks of the Mersey, I'm a pure working class and I don't have time for all these liberal idiots. It's the FA's fault for lying. Have you been reading the Daily Mail all week?
I grew up on the banks of the Mersey, I'm a pure working class and I don't have time for all these liberal idiots. It's the FA's fault for lying. Have you been reading the Daily Mail all week?
I grew up on the banks of the Mersey, I'm a pure working class and I don't have time for all these liberal idiots. It's the FA's fault for lying. Have you been reading the Daily Mail all week?

;_;

*pours another glass of Iniesta wine*

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 23:31 (thirteen years ago)

offical wine of Manchester Utd
http://limun.hr/UserDocsImages/Casillero-del-Diablo-2005.jpg

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

official even. I may have had some wine

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

That devil's wine is on perpetual sale here in Holland for 4 euros tbh. I wonder what Citeh's wine is?

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2012/Jan/Week1/16144126.jpg

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 6 January 2012 23:44 (thirteen years ago)

It's actually pretty decent. Had it a few times before the sponsorship deal kicked in, then i swore off it

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 23:44 (thirteen years ago)

Roo ok?!... They aren't even trying anymore are they? That is an unworthy Mirror headline if I ever saw one.

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

NN, had no idea you were actually serious about it being ManU's wine tbh o_O

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

BELIEVE

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

I mean it's ok, but why is it ManU's wine? El diablo Fergie?

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

red devils

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney and that mediocre wine too, feeling for u bro <3

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 23:51 (thirteen years ago)

Don't worry i'm not drinking it and i'm off to a party! Of course i usually just end up talking about Rooney at these things anyway

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 23:52 (thirteen years ago)

my pic was robbie fowler in blackface btw

cozen, Friday, 6 January 2012 23:52 (thirteen years ago)

xp Nae mind NN, party hard tbh! As long as you don't Roo-in it with the girls at the party.

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

I'd roo the day

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 23:56 (thirteen years ago)

looks more like the sunburned scouser from the harry enfield episode where they went on holiday

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Saturday, 7 January 2012 00:45 (thirteen years ago)

poll: would you sacrifice football for the world to be rid of footballers & football fans?

carpy deems (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 January 2012 01:41 (thirteen years ago)

no! and i hate football fans.

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 January 2012 01:41 (thirteen years ago)

i suppose the cunts would be cunts wherever they were, but fuck me it's galling to share it with them sometimes

carpy deems (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 January 2012 01:45 (thirteen years ago)

i feel the same way about everybody who Loves Music too

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 January 2012 01:48 (thirteen years ago)

i definitely feel that way about motorists

carpy deems (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 January 2012 01:49 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not suggesting the Oldham lad deserved it but if he was racially abused then it goes to show you that it doesn't really exist any more as he was shocked. So all this rubbish about racisim in football is just rubbish.

i think this broke my brain.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 7 January 2012 07:41 (thirteen years ago)

...and still it goes on:
https://twitter.com/#!/StanCollymore/status/155452935004893184/photo/1

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 7 January 2012 09:16 (thirteen years ago)

Collymore's protecting his account now. The guy abusing him last night has apparently been reported to the police.

Not sure how workable it would be but it might be interesting to see a few clubs look at the possibility of barring people who engage in racist abuse on social media networks from matches, as they would if they did it inside the ground.

Multiple xps, i got a can of Ting in Sainsbury's this morning.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Saturday, 7 January 2012 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

fwiw my mate who was in the away end for the recent league cup game at Stamford Bridge says precisely the same abuse was directed towards Chelsea's black players. I think it was just one guy shouting (it may even conceivably have been the same guy) but still

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 January 2012 11:18 (thirteen years ago)

i've heard racist abuse everytime i've been to a prem game, only about 3 times but fwiw.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 7 January 2012 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

There does seem to be a convenient fiction built up over the last few years that racism is now confined to other leagues. The change from the late eighties to now has been unbelievable, though.

Out of interest, did Chelsea ever manage to stamp out the hissing when Spurs play?

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Saturday, 7 January 2012 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

I get to a game about once a year now and genuinely can't recall hearing any. That said, I've been going to games for thirty years now and I'm assuming that when it was prevalent I just didn't really notice it or think it worth consigning to memory.

Like I did pass two drunken, unrelated Spurs fans bellowing 'Yiddo! Yiddo!' in each other's faces on a night out a couple of weeks back, and I'm sure that wouldn't've particularly registered with me a few years ago.

All that said, my memory's a bit odd in that in a lot of scenarios I could rarely tell you for sure whether there's anyone else there at all, so ymmv.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 January 2012 11:59 (thirteen years ago)

enwright’s tenure appears to be a blueprint for oblivion. Over £50m wiped off the balance sheet; two failed ground moves (one to an iconic location the other to a supermarket car park); too many failed attempts to bring investment to the club; boardroom infighting, not to mention preventing angry shareholders from questioning the board through banning general meetings. Add to this ostracising the the local media when they dare to report the truth and conspiring to act against the fan base (confirmed in a series of leaked emails which recently cost a senior executive his job). Then, last but not least, the massive and mysterious £11m per annum increase in operating costs since 2007, which has been attributed to additional costs at the their new state of the art £1.1m per annum leased training ground. The many explanations for this have only served to increase suspicion that all is not what it seems at Goodison Park, particularly regarding the ownership which more and more people are questioning due to the presence of offshore companies and the ubiquitous Sir Philip Green.

Are they genuinely suggesting that Kenwright is telling everyone they see the dot in the wrong place and is pocketing 10m a year?

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 7 January 2012 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

i find the whole "yiddo" thing weird and mostly pretty ugly, and associate it with aggressive horrible pubs or i guess white hart lane which is fairly grim itself.

when i went to upton park a few years back one guy called benayoun a "fackin egyptian cunt" repeatedly. is egyptian more offensive to an israeli than cunt?

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 7 January 2012 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

ooops that was in reply to the finances of football thread, specifically this crazy article about everton:

http://www.itsroundanditswhite.co.uk/2012/01/06/evertons-blueprint-for-oblivion/

bleak picture, if it's all true

― I was otherwise very normal before I became (onimo), Saturday, 7 January 2012 11:29 (49 minutes ago)

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 7 January 2012 12:20 (thirteen years ago)

https://twitter.com/#!/ADawsonBros/status/155554210723807232

Liverpool FC officials are desperate to identify the fans who racially abused Tom Adeyemi, so they know which names to print on the t-shirts

I was otherwise very normal before I became (onimo), Saturday, 7 January 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

xxp, a lot of the kids my cousin plays FIFA with online have usernames like 'yiddo1997' or 'yidsfanenfield', etc. I get the impression that a large number of people using it, positively or negatively, are pretty ignorant about the origins of the term. It's clearly not the kind of thing anyone should be throwing around, particularly in that area of London, though.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Saturday, 7 January 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

Seen now in three or four different places the claim that was what was being shouted was "You Manc bastard" and it was either being aimed at Patrice Evra (because they were singing a song about how he's a lying, cheating blind cunt) or Adeyemi himself because "Oldham is in the borough of Manchester" (thanks to ourdave on Huffington Post UK for that one).

So, all a misunderstanding then. Again. Allegedly.

Sugary pee is not normal (aldo), Saturday, 7 January 2012 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

YOU just posted the conjecture you then replied to in the same post. seriously get a life!

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 7 January 2012 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

i bet someone somewhere is saying that the oldham defender deserved it.

typical.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 7 January 2012 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

Exactly. How is shouting "You Manc bastard" at a guy from Norwich any worse than calling a Uruguayan feller a Scouse bastard?

James Mitchell, Saturday, 7 January 2012 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

In Liverpool "you manc bastard" is actually a term of affection etc etc

Number None, Saturday, 7 January 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

so where is rooney going to go? without steve bruce in charge at sunderland it'll be a nightmare trying to shift him.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 7 January 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

xps it certainly wasn't 'manc' against Chelsea

more xps I dunno, it's clearly being used in a positive sense by spurs fans and has become largely divorced from its former connotations (NB I'm largely unfamiliar with these tbh, but sense that it's never been the worst of words). It also strikes me as a good thing generally to have large-scale identification with minority groups, shallow as this example may be.

The problem with semantics like that is that it's also taken as a green light by some people to do the hissing thing, or to racially abuse Oldham players if you like. That's what's wrong with liverpool's belligerent stance this week - I've got some sympathy with Suarez' general position re word use (though must emphasise that that's only in general, and certainly not on these facts, on which I think the tribunal was right), but that's evidently not how the club's position has come across. In other words, these arguments are clever for individual cases and technicalities, but there's a broader test of not being a dick which ought to be much more important.

But what do you do? Ban words, or rigorously police a very difficult frontier?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 January 2012 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

spurs fans referring to themselves as yids is a long way from gas noises from opposition fans is a ways in itself imo from racial abuse of specific players

Spurs fans referring to themselves as yids is still troubling tbh but i'm pretty ignorant- in general, like

carpy deems (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 January 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

It's what they're trying to do in Scotland...

xpost

ailsa, Saturday, 7 January 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

xp to ismael

Do you think that, out of it all, suarez came out of everything looking a lot better than lfc/dalglish? I think it's a possibility, as long as doubt remains over his intention & what was actually said during the incident (fwiw i think that doubt, however small, does exist)

carpy deems (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 January 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

Dalglish definitely came out of worst

Number None, Saturday, 7 January 2012 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

out of it

Number None, Saturday, 7 January 2012 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

came out of what, the incessant news articles?

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 7 January 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

If Suarez comes off less badly, it's probably going to be because whatever was said was said in the heat of the moment by a 24-year-old who has a long history of doing moronic things. Liverpool, as a club, and Dalglish as a manager, have a lot further to fall.

xps, i'd say the 'yids' thing is primarily problematic because it gives a green light to opposing fans to use it alongside abuse, even if it is in ignorance. At my school, which was in a largely Spurs-supporting area, people would write 'fuck the yids' on desks. That's not going to be interpreted by a Jewish kid in the same was as it might be by a Spurs fan, necessarily.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Saturday, 7 January 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

the incessant statements, interviews and press conferences

Number None, Saturday, 7 January 2012 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

Whatever the rights or wrongs of the yids thing (and I see the merit in both sides of the argument to some extent) it's obviously and blatantly different to actually shouting racial abuse at a player. The latter is something I haven't actually seen that much of at WHL, although I've always mostly sat in either season ticket or membership areas where people might be a bit more careful. I've heard some pretty dodgy things said about Pedro Mendes and Lee Young Pyo but never outright direct racial abuse.

Liverpool are doing an amazing job of pissing a lot of early season goodwill up the wall. They've been pretty much despicable throughout this whole Surarez row.

Matt DC, Saturday, 7 January 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

There is absolutely no way that Suarez didn't say what he said in a deliberately abusive context and Liverpool look like cocks the more they try and pretend otherwise.

Matt DC, Saturday, 7 January 2012 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

Did they decide that Sol Campbell swinging from a tree was a biblical reference and not a lynching one in the end?

pandemic, Saturday, 7 January 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/forum/ff-football-forum/105563-tom-adeyemi.html

Thread is tagged as follows:

boys don't cry, cry wolf, fucking soft shite, holt and vinegar, puta holt to it, tears of a negrito, un libero whoppero, weeping tom

Sugary pee is not normal (aldo), Saturday, 7 January 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

Darragh, many xps by now: that's a really good question. Suarez looks bad for lying and bad for giving an implausible explanation (subject to the possibility that the tribunal got it wrong, which is definitely possible but they were exemplary within their remit afaict). the abuse itself I can rationalise as heat-of-the-moment and who among us hasn't done things we've regretted? And yet - it so clearly fails the 'being a dick' test. But of course football's where you go to be a dick, which is a problem of its own. There's some personal mitigation, basically. We'll see how much it's merited in time I guess.

Dalglish I won't criticise for showing unqualified support because no Liverpool manager can respond any other way - well, Hodgson would have, and just imagine what would've ensued. But he's dead wrong in slating Evra personally and in any conspiracy talk. I find that very alienating. Barry Glendinning spoke about certain fans behaving like members of a cult led by Dalglish, and while all clubs are that to some extent, I can't join in very well particularly where it means ignoring reality. Then last night, which is an unfortunate and entirely predictable consequence. He's got a lot of damage to undo imo.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 January 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

xpost it's almost as if you've....

no it can't be.

have you actually found some assholes... on the internet?

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 7 January 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

You know I'd almost think it was personal Ronan, because you only seem to react like this with me.

Sugary pee is not normal (aldo), Saturday, 7 January 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

Did they decide that Sol Campbell swinging from a tree was a biblical reference and not a lynching one in the end?

― pandemic, Saturday, January 7, 2012 1:51 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

or maybe a suicide reference, courtesy of people who were sufficiently gigantic arseholes not to care if anyone took it as a lynching reference

Buster Mottrhymes (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 7 January 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

have you actually found some assholes... on the internet?

Tags aside there are a lot of people on the linked thread saying the abuser should be arrested, charged, banned for life from Anfield, etc. so they're not all assholes.

I was otherwise very normal before I became (onimo), Saturday, 7 January 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDpO5Bu27fs

cozen, Saturday, 7 January 2012 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't know about the Spurs/yids thing. Is it comparable to the Ajax supporters shouting and chanting 'Jews! Jews!' as some sort of collective identity, something to be proud of (or at least that is how they view it themselves)?

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 7 January 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

FFS COZ WTF NO

I was otherwise very normal before I became (onimo), Saturday, 7 January 2012 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

Krul of the filmers to put that on youtube xp

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 7 January 2012 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

make sure to plump for the 480p option

cozen, Saturday, 7 January 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

Something tells me it's not going to be difficult for the authorities to track these guys down
http://oi40.tinypic.com/2j35n5j.jpg

Number None, Saturday, 7 January 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

is this real life
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/futuresport/201201/ipitch-apple-prepares-bid-epl-tv-rights

cozen, Saturday, 7 January 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

as long as Bloodzeed isn't effected

Number None, Saturday, 7 January 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

lmbo at newcastle fan

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 7 January 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

james brown scored!

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Saturday, 7 January 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

I bet he feels good etc

James Mitchell, Saturday, 7 January 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

He knew that he would tbh

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 7 January 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

can't see scholes coming out retirement; getting one of your own legends back is a bit pathetic and desperate

cozen, Saturday, 7 January 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

ginola as cover for lennon

carpy deems (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 January 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

We could still get Robbie Fowler back. His second Anfield exile is now as long as his first.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 January 2012 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

he'd fit right in

cozen, Saturday, 7 January 2012 19:45 (thirteen years ago)

He's just being a scouser, calm down.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 January 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

that is an awesome costume btw; nailed the sweater

cozen, Saturday, 7 January 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

Like some modern day Faustian pact Everton has literally sold their soul to remain solvent. Like some modern day Faustian pact Everton has literally sold their soul to remain solvent. Like some modern day Faustian pact Everton has literally sold their soul to remain solvent. Like some modern day Faustian pact Everton has literally sold their soul to remain solvent. Like some modern day Faustian pact Everton has literally sold their soul to remain solvent. Like some modern day Faustian pact Everton has literally sold their soul to remain solvent. Like some modern day Faustian pact Everton has literally sold their soul to remain solvent. Like some modern day Faustian pact Everton has literally sold their soul to remain solvent. Like some modern day Faustian pact Everton has literally sold their soul to remain solvent. Like some modern day Faustian pact Everton has literally sold their soul to remain solvent. Like some modern day Faustian pact Everton has literally sold their soul to remain solvent. Like some modern day Faustian pact Everton has literally sold their soul to remain solvent. Like some modern day Faustian pact Everton has literally sold their soul to remain solvent. Like some modern day Faustian pact Everton has literally sold their soul to remain solvent. Like some modern day Faustian pact Everton has literally sold their soul to remain solvent.

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Saturday, 7 January 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

can't argue that

carpy deems (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 January 2012 19:58 (thirteen years ago)

nult has taken over

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 8 January 2012 07:23 (thirteen years ago)

the Paul Scholes comeback thing was real?!

zappi, Sunday, 8 January 2012 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

y

carpy deems (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 January 2012 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

'Wait is it Fleetwood Town or Yeovil playing tomorrow?' - FA Cup third round (and onward) 2012

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 January 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

http://static-voetbalzone.nl/images/photos/ori_280_210/913000830100609900.jpg

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 8 January 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

Van Persie met Maradona in Dubai, Maradona saying Van Persie "is an example for all great players" [/context]

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 8 January 2012 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

In fairness I've never actually heard the Campbell song sung at the stadium due not not being insane enough to go to any game where he was playing.

Matt DC, Sunday, 8 January 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

While relatively upmarket, Yarm is notorious as a hangout for 'scrotes' - a slang term for young people - who go there for nights out, our source said. It is also a well known hangout for footballers.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 8 January 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

stewart downing arrested on suspicion of assault?

cozen, Sunday, 8 January 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

0 goals, 0 assists, 1 assault

cozen, Sunday, 8 January 2012 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

They're really trying anything this season to stay in the tabloids aren't they?

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 8 January 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

I'm starting to warm to the current side now.

pandemic, Sunday, 8 January 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

i'm liking this new look United side tho, this lad Scholes is promising

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

With Giggs, Scholes and Lampard in the middle we should be nicely set up for years to come

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 8 January 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

You need Van Der Sar back, I'm not even joking.

pandemic, Sunday, 8 January 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

i was gonna suggest bringing ferdinand back at cb but some shit's not even funny

carpy deems (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 January 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

beckham is still looking for a club

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Sunday, 8 January 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

gnew contract at galaxy i think

carpy deems (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

0 goals, 0 assists, 1 assault

you're incorrect here, he actually has as many goals as assaults now.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

Warnock out? So sez the internet.

ailsa, Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I was just reading. Hard to see how they'll do better.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

Mark Hughes, according to Sky Sports News, who appear to be just getting info off twitter like the rest of us.

ailsa, Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

Okay, Hughes could be better. The Telegraph has it on Warnock, but not confirmed.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:34 (thirteen years ago)

Statement from QPR shortly. Seems to be a thing.

ailsa, Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:37 (thirteen years ago)

A thing?

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

'A thing' as in 'it's true' or as in 'he's not been sacked for footballing reasons, but for some kind of controversy'?

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

a thing as in true, as opposed to twitter rumours.

ailsa, Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

Seems a shame to me

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

i hate Warnock but i'd rather he was in the Prem than Mark Hughes

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

Him in Mark Hughes would be horrible, yes

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

ugh

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLLL

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

The Mail has a very lengthy quote from Warnock confirming it,, but then they also had a lengthy report from Amanda Knox's failed appeal, so

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

Foxy 'Nocksy

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

rip warnock you just havent given many interesting post game interviews recently, so your appeal has gone

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 08:23 (thirteen years ago)

Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp has claimed that Demba Ba's release clause is actually around half the £10m mooted over the weekend, which could be set to spark a transfer frenzy.
Full story: Daily Mirror

hooooly shit arsene get up on this.

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 08:24 (thirteen years ago)

loooooooooooooool

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 09:01 (thirteen years ago)

stash for a mate, surely

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01100/roo_1100681a.jpg

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 9 January 2012 09:08 (thirteen years ago)

Time, and Scholes' eventual contribution, will be the judge of this decision and the player known as 'The Ginger Prince' is the last person in the game who will have gone to Ferguson and asked to play as some sort of vanity project.

James Mitchell, Monday, 9 January 2012 09:24 (thirteen years ago)

Brazil: Palmeiras react to fans holding a "homophobia pride" rally after reports the club were in talks to sign Atlético Mineiro's Richarlyson. Palmeiras: "We have no plans to sign him. Richarlyson is a good athlete, but the difficulties with our fans are clear. We have history."

• 2007 – Richarlyson sues after a Palmeiras director incorrectly outs him on TV, telling fans: "Palmeiras will never buy a gay." Judge Manoel Maximiano Junqueira Filho dismissed the case. "The comments are fair; football is virile. Gays cannot play in normal teams, they should stick to their own. Each monkey in its own branch, each rooster in its own coop, each king in its own deck of cards. That is what I think, and I'm the judge, so I say it."

I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 09:51 (thirteen years ago)

Is Hughes to QPR really happening? If so, enjoy yr indentured Joorabchian shop-window crap for half a season, Hoops fans.

Matt DC, Monday, 9 January 2012 10:21 (thirteen years ago)

Could be worse, could be Bruce

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 9 January 2012 10:23 (thirteen years ago)

That guy really is the worst agent ever, I've realised - for some reason I'd just assumed he was some kind of evil genius.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 January 2012 10:25 (thirteen years ago)

Faurlin's out injured for the remainder as well, I accept the blame myself for the mild praise I offered him last week.

boxall, Monday, 9 January 2012 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

Apparently Salomon Kalou got permission from the Ivory Coast FA to fly back to London from Dubai, to open talks with Arsenal? Not sure what to think of it tbh

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 9 January 2012 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

That's way more desperate than asking Thierry back

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 9 January 2012 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

yep. Chamakh's a sight better.

carpy deems (darraghmac), Monday, 9 January 2012 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

...
...
...

Benny Noon > Kalou > Arshavin > Chamakh > Park (not that I know f all about him.)

The guy is boring but he is reliable, not prone to being a dick if on the bench/dropped (fine for when aoc makes the proper step up) and can score. And he's never really been given a chance to shine in anything other than sub appearances, has he? I guess it is a smart enough signing and the type Wenger likes, if the price is as low as I'd expect it to be.

However, it is fucking underwhelming. There is still the Kolo/Ade money sat in the bank, let alone to Cesc money. Give the fans something to truly be happy* about while the club just tread water. Even if such a signing would turn out as shit as Andrey, everyone needs more of a boost right now than Salomon bloody Kalou can provide.

*Henry doesn't fucking count.

unattractive on the g side (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

"We tried to get Gotze but he wasn't available, so we went for the next obvious option."
"Eden Hazard?
"No, Salomon Kalou."

unattractive on the g side (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

kalou's had lots of chances

carpy deems (darraghmac), Monday, 9 January 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

He's been there a long time

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 9 January 2012 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

Warnock gets sacked because his board aren't happy to be hovering just above the drop zone in their first season up. Hmmmmmm.

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 January 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

crazy decision by bored who went through 9 managers in 4 years and had no qualms hiring joey barton shockah.

unattractive on the g side (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

no i was praising them on their proactiveness

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 January 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

wd like to see other clubs in a similar situation who have maybe been in the Prem for a couple of seasons follow their lead

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 January 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

yeah moyes out

unattractive on the g side (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

However, it is fucking underwhelming. There is still the Kolo/Ade money sat in the bank, let alone to Cesc money. Give the fans something to truly be happy* about while the club just tread water. Even if such a signing would turn out as shit as Andrey, everyone needs more of a boost right now than Salomon bloody Kalou can provide.

At some point you're going to have to man up and admit that that money isn't actually there any more. Still, whatever the question is, Salomon Kalou is not the answer. The scouting network at Arsenal really isn't what it used to be. And at Old Trafford for that matter. There's got to be some middle ground between Hazard/Gotze/other flavour-of-the-month types who everyone wants and yer standard issue underwhelming Prem perennials, but no one seems to be able to find them.

Warnock gets sacked because his board aren't happy to be hovering just above the drop zone in their first season up. Hmmmmmm.

Thing is, for every Fulham there's a Charlton where replacing the manager just makes the situation worse. You've got to be pretty damn sure you've got the right replacement lined up. No idea who that would be at Wolves.

Matt DC, Monday, 9 January 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

newcastle are finding them

carpy deems (darraghmac), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

At some point you're going to have to man up and admit that that money isn't actually there any more.

So where is it? If the club come out and said 'we are stockpiling the £150m left for the stadium repayments' then sure, but they say 'we have a warchest to buy players if we want to'. If it is neither, then something is fucked.

The scouting network at Arsenal really isn't what it used to be.

I dunno, in the past year we picked up a dude out of a japanese high school who excelled on loan and has fans salivating to see him play. I think it is more to do with other clubs catching up than Arsenal's and Utd's scouting networks getting shit.

unattractive on the g side (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

i've no idea who it wd be at Wolves, but I watched the Bolton game last week and my Dad assures me the performance at Birmingham was the same: we are pitiful. The guy's had over 4 seasons in charge and yet we're still devoid of shape, organisation, players able to control possession or dictate tempo for any length of time whatsoever. All 3 teams promoted this season have looked better managed than us, irrespective of where anybody ends up. we really are a void of anti-football right now, and yes it's easier to say who i don't want in charge than who i do, but i wd settle for anybody who valued some basic technique and invention above McCarthy's relentless, dour obsession with putting a fucking shift in.

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

enjoy that loanee's performance, meanwhile back at the ranch you're a two-men-who-break-easily team

carpy deems (darraghmac), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

wait who are you conceding to be the second man?

unattractive on the g side (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

Chesney

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

nah joeks

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

mata v. silva - 1 man left in rearranging my ff team and i cant decide who to pick

unattractive on the g side (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

i guess nani could also be involved but lol picking nani

unattractive on the g side (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

fyi you should all be doing this since everyone most prob also has ba and yaya in their teams

unattractive on the g side (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

vermaelen?
xp

pandemic, Monday, 9 January 2012 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

thought he meant song tbh but vermaelen's not a terrible shout

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, he actually is good

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

ffs song fuuuck off

carpy deems (darraghmac), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

Blimey, Spurs could be level on points with Man City by the time City play their next game.

(And that is the sort of thinking that ruins weeks and months)

Matt DC, Monday, 9 January 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

lives

carpy deems (darraghmac), Monday, 9 January 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

oh my days

the ballon d'or ceremony is on eurosport and rooney is sporting... a hairstyle. nagl

cozen, Monday, 9 January 2012 18:21 (thirteen years ago)

how long is the show to hand out 1 golden ball to messi btw?

unattractive on the g side (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

Shakira is taller than Sepp. Obviously heels and all but still...

Number None, Monday, 9 January 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

Put Ronaldo in a red hoodie and the producers of Alvin and the Chipmunks could save a lot on CGI for their next movie.

James Mitchell, Monday, 9 January 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

Happy to see justice served w/ the goal of the year award: http://www.fifa.com/ballondor/puskasaward/index.html

boxall, Monday, 9 January 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

is the show still going? blimey.

unattractive on the g side (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

love that Neymar goal

I was otherwise very normal before I became (onimo), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

have they given out the golden ball yet

unattractive on the g side (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

Awesome. I just assumed it was going to be Rooney, nice to see there are still people somewhere for whom EPL isn't the be-all-and-end-all.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

the rest of the world you mean?

unattractive on the g side (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

the rest of the what now?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

Premier League players have traditionally dominated at these awards tbf

Number None, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

such as ronaldo and... didn't owen do well once?

unattractive on the g side (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

I was joking but having just checked Lampard and Gerrard were second and third to Ronaldinho in 2005

Number None, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

oh my bad when keegan was at hamburg he won two years in a row.

unattractive on the g side (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

Owen won European thingy back when it was two awards (and more prestigious somehow). Lampard was 2nd to Ronaldinho once.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

henry came second in 2004, beckham second in 1999, shearer (lol) third in 1996.

the rest of the world doesn't care about the premiership no matter how much people think they do.

unattractive on the g side (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

yeah they actually do though

Number None, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

Terrace beckham Owen Rooney pampers all repose at world/European football awards

Btw I'm on an iPhone will I fuck be going back to recorrect this cunning autocorrect

carpy deems (darraghmac), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

David Speedie was 2nd in both 92 and 93

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

the rest of the world doesn't care about the premiership no matter how much people think they do.

you should check out the us of a, ppl care a lot

bomb.gif (dan m), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

There have been murders in Africa after EPL games.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

I seem to recall an Arsenal fan committing suicide in Kenya as well?

boxall, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

an Arsenal fan was killed in Abbottabad iirc

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

ok ok

unattractive on the g side (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

nutters everywhere tbh
http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/221/champions-league/2009/05/06/1249621/kenyan-fan-commits-suicide-after-arsenals-champions-league-defeat

just not in islington.

Alan Shearer (ken c), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 00:58 (thirteen years ago)

oh wait haha

Alan Shearer (ken c), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 00:58 (thirteen years ago)

https://twitter.com/#!/piresrobert7/status/156678415376855040

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 10:32 (thirteen years ago)

66/1 at Wm Hill, they could've been a bit more generous

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 10:53 (thirteen years ago)

I think countries with their own sufficiently good and/or well-established leagues don't care that much about the Premiership but that's not actually that many in the grand scheme of things.

Obv. El Clasico is a much bigger deal internationally than any English club game (although the FA Cup Final might still come close?)

That Cantona thing is amazing.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 10:55 (thirteen years ago)

is it though? El Clasico i mean

Number None, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 10:58 (thirteen years ago)

The FA Cup Final's no big deal outside of England, is it?

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:00 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it is

Rivals el classico, for white ppl i'd say

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

even near 20 years of shit finals haven't dimmed its lustre

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

Fair enough. Never meant anything in Scotland, it was never shown on telly.

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:11 (thirteen years ago)

Actually United-Arsenal or United-Liverpool might be a bigger game in terms of sheer number of viewers. I watched United-Arsenal in a bar in Uganda a few years back and everywhere was absolutely rammed for it, and the game was being hyped and trailered on the radio for days beforehand.

But I have no idea really.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

The Utd-Chelsea was a big enough draw in the US to be shown live on some variety of normal telly, which was a first aiui. Torres could've picked better games to rosenthal one wide.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:21 (thirteen years ago)

That's what I was thinking, these days anyway, a big Premiership game would surely trounce the FA Cup Final - unless the final was United-Arsenal or United-Liverpool etc

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:21 (thirteen years ago)

thought Torres picked every game to do that now

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:21 (thirteen years ago)

FA Cup final here in Holland isn't that big a deal. Pales in comparison to games like ManU-ManC, Chelsea-Arsenal at least. It all depends on who the finalists are tbh. But that could also be because the cup on Holland hardly has any status.

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

Is English footy as a whole *the* big league/culture in the Netherlands, or does local football (or elsewhere) still take precedence?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

Jesus, the latter hopefully

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

I mean, fair enough in Uganda and, uh, Ireland

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

Dutch football comes first obv. After that the English league is the biggest. Spain's big but mostly because of Barca/Madrid. Both those teams individually are bigger than any English team though.

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

Oh and there's Schalke that has shed loads of Dutch fans.

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:31 (thirteen years ago)

I can't believe you're arguing if the EPL is followed at all outside of the UK. Of course it is. I see ppl in EPL club jerseys all the time and I live in Asia. Half of the cabs have a little Arsenal/Liv/ManU/Chelsea flag or something, ppl wake up at 3am to watch the games... they even sell ManU deodorant at the supermarket !!

Jibe, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

nobody uses it within 10km of manchester city centre iirc

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 12:25 (thirteen years ago)

i think only one person argued that jibe? and was shot down pretty quickly

Number None, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

To be fair, I don't really know beyond our own press hype - which I obviously distrust on things like this. Certainly whenever I travelled abroad regularly there was never much interest in our clubs (that I could perceive) beyond what they did in Europe, but things were different then.

Union Jacks were a thing among a certain type of ultra for a while, that's the one undisputable to the contrary. But the brand-awareness guys keep quiet about that.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

it would only be a mild exaggeration to say everyone i know is an arsenal fan.

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

know irl that is. could be they're just the loudest and proudest for some reason though.

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

I thought up there was Liverpool country?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, liverpool is probably more popular overall but more so among the older generation i'd say.

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

Hughes in, Bent top target (huh?)

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

I know this Villa team are bad but surely they aren't that bad?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

McLeish, innit. Big haddy.

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

If Bent does leave, surely it'll be to Liverpool?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

Though thinking about it, is a return to Spurs at all feasible?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

Can we please not sign any more English strikers.

pandemic, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

^^^ Cosign.

Given that Redknapp sold Bent I can't see him going in for him again, and I don't think he's the player we want if Adebayor gets injured. Don't think he'd suit the way we play now, and I'm not sure Bent would want to go back himself.

Can see Newcastle going in for Bent if they have to sell Ba in the transfer window.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

Sunderland need a striker

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

mark hughes will prolly sign bent

Alan Shearer (ken c), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

oh i should learn to read

Alan Shearer (ken c), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

newcastle, yeah

He doesn't rly suit a passing/possession team, so spurs/arsenal out, not sure lfc is any fit, utd intriguing but no point they've already got three good strikers and rooney, chelsea play too high and compressed.

Villa a good fit for him, personnel-wise, mcleish notwithcunting

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

This is moot as Villa have already paid insane money for him and will only sell if someone offers even more insane money, and by the time you're in that territory you can probably get a much better forward than Darren Bent.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

that has always been true, and yet

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

Btw when I said no-one cared about the premiership, I obviously was talking about in terms of award giving and not in terms of popularity. It is like comedies come Oscar season. Doesn't mean people haven't spent all year talking quoting jokes when Daniel Day Lewis ends up winning Best Actor.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

I was wondering: when was the last time the best player in the world (the actual one) was playing in the English league?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

Ronaldo doesn't qualify?

Number None, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

I know this has been done on the 'players of the 00s' thread but the case for Henry c. 2003 is pretty strong.

boxall, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah Ronaldo was head and shoulders above the pack for two years there.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

both cases p strong, as is case for keane and or vieira were dm position ever to be counted, or stephen carr if rb were in the running

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

xp if you mean ronaldo was aller than messi, then yeah sure, otherwise he was in the mix don't push it

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think Vieira or Keane could ever be picked because of Fatty Ronaldo and Zizou playing at the same time. Before that... Lineker?

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

Paul McGrath

Number None, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

gazza since lineker

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

Peter Reid unlucky to play in the Platini/Maradona era.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

on the real though...Schmeichel

Number None, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

prob

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

Was Gazzaq the best in the world while in England though? Surely Maradona/Baresi/van Basten was better than him in '90.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

i.e. maybe when he went to italy? i dunno much about his time there other than comedy boobs.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

Otm xp.. I discount the British-based players as a matter of course, but you can definitely make a case for Henry (but then Ronnie) and Ronaldo (but then Messi). Even shearer (but then Ronaldo). It's slim pickings for thirty years' watching though.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:30 (thirteen years ago)

1991-93 he might have a shout?

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

henry and c ronaldo probably played better than anyone for a season and ronaldo was probably the actual best player in 07/08 too, whereas henry probably never was (zidane and ronaldo were still brilliant when they wanted to be until 2004 or so, when ronaldinho took over)

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

Players in England to have won the Ballon d'Or:

2001 Michael Owen
1968 Best
1966 Charlton
1964 Law
1956 Matthews

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

shearer was never remotely close i mean in 91/93 there was van basten (just), laudrup, romario, matthaus, baggio, stoichkov, gullit, rijkaard, hagi, maldini, baresi, abedi pele, butragueño, mancini, stojkovic....

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

english football is probably more interesting now than it was during the 05-09 peak

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

Gazza was famously injured most of 91-93, if that's serious. Best player in that period was ... maybe Baggio? More likely one of the Milan or possibly Marseille sides of the time. Or Koeman, jeez they were great days.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

koeman? a decent centre-back who could take a shot from long-range.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

Not insignificant talents. He could roam and pass a bit too iirc. He was no Sammer though, it's true.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

english football is probably more interesting now

More contenders for the top spots?

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

Gazza was famously injured most of 91-93, if that's serious

pls

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

my mistake, I always have you down as some sort of whippersnapper

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

Messi was too young, often injured during peak Ronaldo at Utd. Ronaldo, Henry starting to wind down, Kaka more of a shout. Only once they sorted Messi's fitness (they still tend to rest him like once every six games) did he overtake.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

Ronaldinho*, Henry

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it gets p incestuous and murky from undisputed ronaldinho to undisputed messi, and that's not a bad thing- as nakh says the golden days btwn peak maradona and - i dunno who the next 'undisputed might even be? say zidane?- had an eclectic mix of contenders in every position you could wish for

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

i mean for a minute there in 02 ilx would no doubt have polled pablo aimar as a genuine top 3 player

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

Stoichkov v. Baggio for the mid 90s like Ronnie v. Henry for the mid 00s surely

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

i mean for a minute there in 02 ilx would no doubt have polled pablo aimar as a genuine top 3 player

― carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:06 (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

he fucking destroyed us in europe but ayala was the star of that team

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

stoichkov, if you were to v him v anyone, would prob be best v'd against hagi iirc?

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

was always more of a Hagi man myself

Number None, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

or laudrup

shit i wish i wasn't 6 at the time and also had broadband to watch it all like i do now

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

romario was the van nistelrooy of the times, right?

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

boban, what a fuckin player

xp which times i'll tell you, cos that doesn't quite work

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

he was more like the really, really good defoe of the times

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

in fairness my knowledge of the time is entirely based on USA 94 and Italian football on Channel 4

Number None, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

could be worse tbr

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.iffhs-media.de/9-b/9-Goalgetter-1996-10.jpg

the nineties right here, guys

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

ya 99 kilos

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

he was more like the really, really good defoe of the times

― carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:10 PM (10 minutes ago)

yeah i think so

i remember the kids at school repeating the stoichkov/romario/stoichkov/romario commentary (tyldesley?) after they'd sonned ynahtid

i dont think i watched though, i only really watched football italia and collected stickers

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

i was into that milan team in a big way, could recite stats and line-ups etc, lol 11 yr olds

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

the EPL is more interesting than a few yrs ago cuz there are five high-level teams who play good football (citeh, tottenham, arsenal), intermittently play good football (ynahtid) or provide some sort of intrigue (chelsea)

in 2k7 or so chelsea and liverpool were both relentlessly dull relentless attritional crap and none of the lower-mid table 'can play a bit' sides could actually play like swansea are right now

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

all true

still feel like mourinho brought the attrition with him, he made the central midfield three the vogue formation, then dropped the natural wingers that made it even vaguely watchable

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

an eclectic mix of contenders in every position you could wish for

― carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:05 PM (27 minutes ago)

there is still a fair array of talent in most positions (apart from central defence) compared to the mid-late 90s, it just gets overlooked beneath the rather too obvious messi/ronaldo top tier, which isn't actually a top tier so much as messi deciding when he wants to take his feet off c-ron's fingertips and watch him fall away

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno, you look around and fink oo's better than scotty and wo' ee gives you and i just kent see anyone out there

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

the EPL is more interesting than a few yrs ago cuz there are five high-level teams who play good football (citeh, tottenham, arsenal), intermittently play good football (ynahtid) or provide some sort of intrigue (chelsea)

in 2k7 or so chelsea and liverpool were both relentlessly dull relentless attritional crap and none of the lower-mid table 'can play a bit' sides could actually play INSIDE THEIR OWN HALF like swansea are right now

― hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:28 (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

Tottenham centre-back William Gallas has declared that he would like play in either America or Qatar before he finally decides to hang up his boots.

homie MLS ain't no retirement league any more, gtfo

bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

awww rlly tho dan

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

oops sorry forgot henry

bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

& keane & beckham & marquez?

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

the epl was a retirement league in the mid 90s

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

srsly tho maybe if a player is an oldster goal scorer he'll have a good shot but a 34 year old center back will get smoked

marquez has been objectively awful here & was benched during the team's run at the playoffs

bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

sorry to bring this up in a non MLS thread but past it oldsters thinking they can come here and get paid because of becks et al gets my hackles up

bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

being decent doesn't mean its not still a retirement home

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

gallas is still alright, and he was just about the fastest centreback around not so long ago

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

but i can see why you resent him equating a fairly competitive league with a series of extended slow-motion training sessions in the desert

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

sorry to bring this up in a non MLS thread but past it oldsters thinking they can come here and get paid because of becks et al gets my hackles up

― bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, January 10, 2012 9:17 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Hate to break it to you but the MLS is still seen like that, a retirement home for European has-beens tbh.
I think from Holland the MLS was 'enriched' with N'Kufo (Seatlle) and Koevermans the last two years. I think Aron Winter is manager somewhere?

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

I should have added that I hate the idea of any league lending itself to be a retirement home like that, and do not wish it on the MLS either

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

torsten frings is playing for toronto huh

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

but i can see why you resent him equating a fairly competitive league with a series of extended slow-motion training sessions in the desert

this basically

bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

also former ynahtid also-ran richard eckersley

2009–2012 	Burnley 	0 	(0)
....
2011–2012 → Toronto (loan) 23 (0)
2012– Toronto 0 (0)
2012– → Burnley (loan) 0 (0)

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

winter coaches at toronto, that team is beyond basket-case status and has been for years

n'kufo was waived by seattle hours before their opening day match last season, iirc he didn't contribute very much there

bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

How's John Rooney getting on?

Number None, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

gone

bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

Noooooo! Still he got a trip to New York out of it, that's a success of sorts.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

is freddie still there

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

japan

bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

huh

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

hasn't been in the MLS in ages though has he?

Number None, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

anyway sorry for the derail, just think that if Gallas wants a last payday he'd be better off in Qatar than flying coach 2000mi cross-country to play against hungry Colombian 20somethings who have been getting poached from the top clubs down there left and right

xp yeah he left after 2010 and went to celtic

bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

oh wait i thought you were talking about Adu, who i see returned recently

Number None, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

just presumed he went there to play parttime/retire and never followed up on his career. (sorry dan)

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

celtic? well i'm less inclined to pay attention to scottish football than mls, which is saying something.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

np, he played half a season in Chicago, scored a few goals and hit up the clubs with Nery Castillo, then said so long and thanks for all the $

bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

nery castillo has scored five club goals since he joined shakhtar for €20m four and a half years ago

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

Claudio Caniggia turned 45 yesterday. If wikipedia is to be believed, he scored 122 goals in a 20-year club & international career. That's, um, not very impressive. Still, happy birthday Claudio!

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

probably still end up better value than Carroll etc

Number None, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

i can even remember ppl opining that was money well spent when castillo scored vs brazil in the copa america that year

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

i dont think there has ever been a fall as abrupt as that, even denilson had a couple of good years

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

Wrong thread, I suppose (is there a right one?), but tune into Sky Sports 1 for the poor man's El Classico right now.

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

Crystal Palace v Cardiff (in an all-white change strip)

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

the greek exchequer's el classico

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

today is making me sad only 4 people voted in my best playa ever poll. two of which were darragh.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

You want to do the 90s one? The iron is hot.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

mine was pretty much all 90s players anyway

Number None, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

there are probably like 20 ppl in the world who have seen a broad enough array of matches from 1955-present in order to make a thorough judgement

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

well yeah it was p much suggested at the time to be best players of our lifetimes

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

I've only just realised it's the Milk Cup semi-final, not a Championship game

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

Pretty sure I voted for Mathias Sindelaar

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

looking back i actually got 7 votes (2 by darragh). and you didnt ismael, but you did vote for a player who currently plays for newcastle.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

iirc i used the methodology of 'sure enough about from what i've seen, no frontin'

can't remember votin 2x

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

I've been proved right about Newcastle so far this season

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/Ved7u.png

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

his ability hexagon is shaped like wayne rooney's head

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

carroll to newcastle, £15mil

ba to PSG

eh what can you do, that's just how max is (cozen), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:59 (thirteen years ago)

yeah???

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 00:09 (thirteen years ago)

it just gets overlooked beneath the rather too obvious messi/ronaldo top tier, which isn't actually a top tier so much as messi deciding when he wants to take his feet off c-ron's fingertips and watch him fall away

I share the general feeling that Messi and Ronaldo *shouldn't* be as clos as they appear to be - but in what areas do you expect Messi to improve?

(Thought the Swansea diss immediately following the above post was funny, and true enough as well.)

boxall, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 05:07 (thirteen years ago)

carroll to newcastle, £15mil

And Real Madrid are preparing a £30mn bid for Suarez. It's like Rafa never jacked it in to become a blogger.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 10:22 (thirteen years ago)

make it so
http://football-talk.co.uk/55339/cristiano-ronaldo-set-sensational-return-man-utd/

Number None, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 10:30 (thirteen years ago)

carroll to newcastle, £15mil

wishful thinking

pandemic, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 10:53 (thirteen years ago)

If the latter post qualifies as wishful thinking, how to describe the former?

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 10:56 (thirteen years ago)

Torres back to Liverpool for £10m and the circle is complete.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 11:11 (thirteen years ago)

Torres to Atletico Madrid for €100,000

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll back to Newcastle would have to rely on Newcastle having not squandered the £35million, or that fat Ashley didn't nick it all. Definitely wishful thinking.

Also, Carroll is a scumbag - Newcastle are a much more likeable team now they got rid of all the idiots like Bramble, Woodgate, Carroll, Barton, etc, etc. They'd be better off without him.

CraigG, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 11:20 (thirteen years ago)

They'd be better off with Ba

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 11:23 (thirteen years ago)

Barton went off at Matty Holland on twitter last night. For some reason.

Number None, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 11:25 (thirteen years ago)

let me guess, is it because Barton's a cunt?

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 11:31 (thirteen years ago)

Joey7Barton Joseph Barton
I have worked out that I probably love about 12 people in the world, I like about 35, I don't mind about 100, the rest of u, well can jog on

Number None, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 11:33 (thirteen years ago)

the EPL is more interesting than a few yrs ago cuz there are five high-level teams who play good football (citeh, tottenham, arsenal), intermittently play good football (ynahtid) or provide some sort of intrigue (chelsea)

in 2k7 or so chelsea and liverpool were both relentlessly dull relentless attritional crap and none of the lower-mid table 'can play a bit' sides could actually play like swansea are right now

While this is all true I sort of think the overall quality of the top teams is lower than in previous years. City obviously can score at will but can't actually defend that well, in fact no one can defend that well, there isn't an obvious Champions League finalist among the top teams, etc etc. But this doesn't actually matter as it's making for a MUCH more exciting league.

The quality of positions 5-10 or so is probably better than in previous years. I don't even think the relegation threatened clubs are that bad in relation to previous years - Blackburn look like they could stay up with a better manager in place, even Wigan don't appear to be a completely lost cause.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

There's no way Sam Allardyce's Bolton would get a sustained run in the top four or five nowadays.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal can play good football now?

Alan Shearer (ken c), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll back to Newcastle would have to rely on Newcastle having not squandered the £35million, or that fat Ashley didn't nick it all. Definitely wishful thinking.

Given that Carroll wasn't worth £35m in the first place and has done next to fuck all since his move I feel it's wishful thinking to expect anyone to pay anywhere close to that to take him off Liverpool's hands.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 11:59 (thirteen years ago)

he scored 33% more goals than Torres who is worth £50m so he is now worth £66.5m

Alan Shearer (ken c), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

Andy Carroll will end up being the Millennium Dome of football, a ridiculously expensive white elephant that it's owners can't decide what to do with. He will be sold off cheap to another team where his shell will remain intact whilst his insides are chiseled out and replaced by a proper footballer who will then go on to win at least 2 golden boots, or he will host concerts.

pandemic, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

Prince, who could comfortably fit inside Andy Carroll, did about 30 nights at the Dome. Excellent analogy.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 12:37 (thirteen years ago)

he's like an elephant but white, completely white

Alan Shearer (ken c), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

Not completely, lest we forget the Carroll cornrow era

http://molethewall.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/andy-carroll-cornrow.jpg

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

This'll be mental
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/11/ajax-alkmaar-dutch-replay-children

Number None, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

Cue Ultra's trying to round up 6 kids each

pandemic, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

They initially wanted children and women to be able to attend. Then the fanclub got involved saying why not men too? Also the gay rights movement tried to get them to allow gays in attendance...

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/lfc-makes-new-friends-1

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

oh dear

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

"It's fantastic to see how LFC give the opportunity to play football to such many people of different social and ethnic estraction"

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

Ha. That's embarrassingly transparent

CraigG, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

they have to extract them from their ethnicity first

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.noisetosignal.org/images/posts/ted/rightthere.jpeg

Buster Mottrhymes (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

Friedel

Walker Dawson Kaboul Ekotto

Livermore Modric

Lennon Bale

Van Der Vaart

Adebayor

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

Ay, has Friedel basically been rock solid and great for Spurs since I said he might be losing it?

MPx4A, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/jan/11/tottenham-brad-friedel-shrewdest-signing

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

a vast improvement on anyone since probably peak neil sullivan, i'd say

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

gomes had his spectaculars, but both ways

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, the Wilson article prompted me to think about Brad, having not really watched much Spurs this season; he descends into gibberish a bit by the time he's talking about the USA but the stuff about the billions of consecutive appearances always stirs the heart a bit. to think it could've all gone south if his shit red card during the Liverpool-Villa rout of 09 hadn't been rescinded

sticking him behind a defence that doesn't allow shots to constantly rain down on him from 10 yards out made him concede fewer goals, who knew

MPx4A, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

jeez i dunno would i say we do that

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

or don't do that, rather

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

quite a bit of hype for this one in the US, in no small part b/c of Friedel talking shit on Donovan for choosing to play in MLS instead of making it abroad

bomb.gif (dan m), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

looking forward to lando starting off vs friedel then

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

streamin to my tv from a russian feed feels like the 21st century has finally arrived

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

midfield lining up quite conservatively tbh, adebayor in a lonely place up front

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

did you get a new tv or something?

Number None, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

yeah just before christmas, no hdmi cables til last week tho, lol planning

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, you mentioned it

Number None, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

yah one tv for fitba and one for nick ray classic 'in a lonely place'

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

i'm just bitter cos my tv screen is actually smaller than my laptop's

Number None, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

if history has taught us anything it is that p neville will be congratulated all over england tomorrow for spending 90 mins trying to injure a better footballer

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

commentary lamenting lack of pav fwiw

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

Before Adebayor & Rafa get a brace each I should remind darragh that this match won't count in the alterna-fantasy league scoring, as it was supposed to be a Week 1 fixture and we got a late start to our season.

boxall, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

i'm pulling 'chief lobbyist' ilf rank on you on that one

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

don't forget bale btw

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

neckbreak-looking landing from a jump for walker, seems ok

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

adebayor misses one on one from lightning vdv-bale break

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

two footed studded p neville tackle on modric

No foul, right call tbh

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

Lovely flick from Modric there, if he meant it.

Your stream's a bit behind I think.

boxall, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

maybe

Tussle looks maybe a foul in box there for us but prob not

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

love us tussle does luka

difficult christening shower (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

/a/

difficult christening shower (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

i meant on ade, but fucks sake that's an obvious penalty for us there

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

decision not to rescind kompany red looks is quite significant imo

difficult christening shower (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

ref who won't give that is a cheating cunt stealing his wages imo

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

maybe idiot footballers will stop doing two-footed tackles now

Number None, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

What does it say about your club when an attacking mid on a short-term loan comes right into the #9 shirt? Poor Everton.

boxall, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

even good ones

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

yes

Number None, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

kompany isnt an idiot, but the precedent is a strong one

difficult christening shower (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

ya ya ya lennon

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

who played that ball to him?

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

vdv looking like our least technically gifted player out there atm

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

BAE I thought xp

boxall, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

long ball spurs

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

Think VDV's looked pretty good this half actually - BAE overhit the pass to him but he almost scored an incredible one after that.

Decent first half, thought Everton were looking annoyingly difficult to break down for a long while. I worry about Dawson, Kaboul and Livermore all on the field at once, think there's a fuck-up waiting to happen there.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

kaboul's had a few years under his belt now tbf, not like when we first paired them together under jol and it was like fucking 'make a wish' striker edition

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

our little reaction passing triangles to get out of tight spots is my favourite thing about spurs these days

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

that one from neville on modric..... red under en vogue interpretation, surely

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

en vogue interpretation sounds like a sweet cover band

Number None, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

there are sweet cover bands?

difficult christening shower (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

probably not tbf

Number None, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

the sweet rappers

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VirfLJ0lbY

Guilty_Boksen, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

p neville has broken into a run three times tonight, once to launch both footed at modric and twice to shout at spurs players who've been fouled

I kinda want kaboul to blend the cunt

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

woahhhhhhhhh

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

Oh my word, BAE!!

Guilty_Boksen, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

Nice deflection, though.

Guilty_Boksen, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

arse deflection doesn't take much away from bae thirty yarder

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

If we score another 12 we're in second.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

i'd be surprised if we managed any more than 6 tonight tbh

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

Aie, keep the hubris out of it, we're all with you now.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

not quite all

Number None, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

For the second time my stream is playing bombastic gladiatorial music over the top. Every time we pile forward it's like Ride of the Valkyries.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

Adeboyer isn't going to score if he stays on all night. It's just one of those matches.

Guilty_Boksen, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

that was false hubris, cmon we're spurs fans

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

ludicrous booking for lennon there

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

We're gonna win the African Nations Cup!

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

Kaboul very very lucky just then.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

these spurs tackles

They are penalties, right?

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

pav to score imo

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

Sweet. I'd been worrying about that game every time I mentally added 3 points on.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

Is BAE's goal worth watching Sky highlights for?

pandemic, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

It's pretty special. Has he ever scored anything that wasn't a 30-yard ripper against some Scousers?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

You know Spurs *really* could win the league

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

but it was deflected

Number None, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

yeah watch it from the far side angle then turn off quickly

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

We need Man City to carry on being shite for a lot longer yet. And for Fergie to fail to sort Man United out. There's a tough run of games coming up from February onwards.

Jan 22nd though. Spurs v Man City followed by Arsenal v United. This could be The Greatest Day. But it won't be.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

city home tho

difficult christening shower (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

that's the day arsenal overtake us into 4th mark my words

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

I'd love to see Spurs win it (though obviously not as much as seeing United do it).

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

i might sb the next person says anything like that

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

tottenham are like the promising tier two landfill band who had a success with their coruscating debut but face problems convincing with their heartfelt sophmore release, visibly shrinking in the bright lights of popworld while alex zane sneers at their provincial attire

difficult christening shower (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

I'd hate to see Spurs win it (though obviously not as much as seeing United do it).

pandemic, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

gonna wait till after harry's court date to talk abt it. also ade still playing well, which has to end soon because its ade.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

kind of assuming tonight is the high-water mark for spurs tbh, but then I've been assuming that most weeks. In any event, 45 points from 20 games (is it actually 45 from 18?) is pretty phenomenal stuff

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

20 games, 45 points, would have been enough for top spot this time last season

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:32 (thirteen years ago)

and the two before that as well

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

ILX search for use of word 'coruscating' is pretty amusing.

boxall, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

Is it that, while relatively mediocre compared to top teams past, the greater number of contenders for leaders/CL are that much better than the current bottom of the table?

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

i think that city compare well with previous tabletoppers, and spurs compare very well with the 3rd best teams of the past several years

the utd team that reached two cl finals weren't very good, but they were ultra-effective, plus ca change

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

I don't even think the squad is all that bad but what with all the injuries and ppl being played out of place, they're not much of a team. I feel somewhat similar about Arsenal, though much of their woe stems from Wenger fannying about for ages when he knew there was avery good chance he'd lose either Fabergas or Nasri or both and doing nothing remedial. I think that City cobbling together players and managers over the last few years is starting to gel (Silva, esp is key to this) but having done it to some extent at the expense of other EPL teams, they've weakened them.

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:20 (thirteen years ago)

spurs are at a considerable gain from city

arsenal arguably so, if they'd only spent the money

utd- have probably lost out on some targets, but nothing directly affecting

chelsea- the same i think? bridge but i mean

liverpool- ?

really, they've enriched villa, everton and arsenal, and none of those teams have exactly kicked on in the new citeh era

i think mancini has just done well in spending big money on players- a lot of good managers can't do this effectively

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:25 (thirteen years ago)

yeah

i think balotelli, silva, yaya, even aguero were players others could have got had they gone in sooner and with conviction

ferguson was sniffing around silva in 2009

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:31 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs have Adebayor for how long? For how much? Anybody else? (Doing well on injuries, methinks, compared to the rest of the league)

If Arsene had the forethought to scout out several replacements, put out feelers ahead of time, I think they would be doing somewhat better right now. I certainly think they wouldn't have gotten stomped by United.

Chelsea feel old and AVB seems like he hasn't entirely settled in.

City may have enriched them in money but that has not equated to any improvements in most of the squads. Your point about Mancini spending well on big money players is taken, though. He doesn't have Carroll or Torres, luckily. ;)

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:34 (thirteen years ago)

silva was incessantly linked to liverpool when they were in CL...

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:37 (thirteen years ago)

so was Mata, last summer

Number None, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

I always find it weird when guys like Silva or Torres (pre-Liverpool) get linked all around for ages and nothing much happens, then finally do move somewhere and are just brilliant from day one. It's like: what were you all waiting for?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:42 (thirteen years ago)

i dont rly like mata that much

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:42 (thirteen years ago)

there were certainly 'question marks about' silva and torres

silva was the usual too small blah

torres was his iffy finishing, especially in his final season when he scored 10 league goals and failed to combine at all with aguero

in 2005, 2006 he would have cost rather more

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:44 (thirteen years ago)

It's like: what were you all waiting for?

I sometimes find that players sometimes just fit with one team better than another. Is it camaraderie? Position? Complementary skill sets w/other players? Relationship to coach/staff? Pay as incentive? Loyalty as incentive? Team momentum? A hodge-podge of all of these?

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:48 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, and also history is littered with many many more examples of players that were brilliant for one club and a disaster afterwards than players that were consistently brilliant for several clubs

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:58 (thirteen years ago)

i dont rly like mata that much

― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:42 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

????????????

i know he is being played out of position, in a lame duck of a team but ????????

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 12 January 2012 07:12 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaNDKK_HGxY

James Mitchell, Thursday, 12 January 2012 09:26 (thirteen years ago)

I was at White Hart Lane.

Tottenham were not great. But Everton didn't seem to have a shot on target in the whole game.

It was very anti-climactic for what was, at the same time, understood by everyone as a big 3 points.

I believe that Adebayor has added something, but minute by minute he doesn't seem to add much - his control and touch are often remarkably bad for a "top, top player".

Dawson seemed like possibly our best performer, and a reason why EFC didn't get anywhere.

the pinefox, Thursday, 12 January 2012 09:35 (thirteen years ago)

Silva wasn't really an instant hit. He was obviously talented from day one but it took him most of a season to really bed down and become influential. Same happened with Modric. I'm not sure Silva would have been given that time under Rafa, who had a tendency to ship players out after a season.

But yes, Mancini has been remarkably good in the transfer market, if indeed it his his doing. Think Jerome Boateng was the only real misfire?

Matt DC, Thursday, 12 January 2012 10:50 (thirteen years ago)

hi pinefox

I think we were good in a very untottenham way- central core untroubled, friedel without a save to make, good possession without overextending.

Agree with you on adebayor in individual moments at times, but it's undeniable that he holds the ball up and allows the attacking midfield players space to an extent that defoe never could and crouch never did, and he's still good enough both in the air and to feet to not allow centre halves too much ease over 90 mins.

Dawson was excellent!

til the power failure (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 January 2012 10:52 (thirteen years ago)

Nasri and Savic haven't impressed. Who bought Adam Johnson?

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 12 January 2012 10:53 (thirteen years ago)

Kolarov cost 19m, and he's a bit shit (the odd free-kick aside). Jury's out on Nasri

Number None, Thursday, 12 January 2012 10:54 (thirteen years ago)

boateng was a pretty good performer imo, not quite sure why he was shipped out- didn't offer enough going fwd maybe

til the power failure (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 January 2012 10:54 (thirteen years ago)

Johnson was a Hughes purchase

Number None, Thursday, 12 January 2012 10:55 (thirteen years ago)

boateng had that awkward young defender thing going imo where he obviously has the talent but needed to learn from mistakes first before he could be considered rlly good. and city weren't looking for a player who needed to learn what not to do in their first team. its kinda the same with johnson/richards but they help with their quota of homegrown players so they stay while boateng left.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 12 January 2012 10:57 (thirteen years ago)

Johnson should be pushing on at this stage. Thought he was younger than 24

Number None, Thursday, 12 January 2012 10:58 (thirteen years ago)

savic early days, johnson a v good squad player and maybe more, kolarov isn't rly a weak link unless you're being harsh

til the power failure (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 January 2012 10:59 (thirteen years ago)

Kolarov cost 19m

Blimey

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 January 2012 10:59 (thirteen years ago)

i like kolarov. well, i keep forgetting he exists but that is because he is good at defending in a way where you dont notice him iykwim

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:01 (thirteen years ago)

Dzeko hasn't exactly set the world alight either

Number None, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:03 (thirteen years ago)

Kolarov is not a good defender. He's terrible

Number None, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think he's a bad player, not worth 19m though

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

dzeko, johnson are liable to criticism individualky for the way mancini uses them, i mean when the team played around dzeko early this season he was unwithfuckable

til the power failure (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

The other thing about Adebayor is how many goals he makes for other players - he gets so many more assists than last year's strikers, occasional Crouch knockdown for VDV notwithstanding. All of our attacking players benefit from him being in the team.

I keep forgetting that Man City even signed Nasri. Given he's managed half a season of decent play in several years in England, Wenger must be pissing himself laughing at that one.

Matt DC, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:11 (thirteen years ago)

thank fuck Utd didn't sign him, even with our midfield. Just seems like a spineless character

Number None, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:12 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal player, innit

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:14 (thirteen years ago)

Dzeko and Aguero just haven't really gelled have they? I suppose he's got a bit of Berbatov problem in that he slows the attack down, but when Balotelli's out City suddenly look a bit short on options there, although Aguero is worth three of yr jobbing Prem strikers at least.

Johnson was a great signing for City two years ago but they've outgrown him. He'd improve most Premiership teams from Chelsea down.

Matt DC, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:14 (thirteen years ago)

he improves them when they need a wide right player, which seems seldom enough maybe?

til the power failure (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

he'd be a great option for spurs as cover/rival for lennon, if we were to sell one or two of our squad midfielders

til the power failure (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:18 (thirteen years ago)

Johnson screams mid-table to me

Number None, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:20 (thirteen years ago)

not as a 6m squad player he doesn't

til the power failure (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:27 (thirteen years ago)

i seem him more as a big fish in a small pond type

Number None, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

He'd be good at Newcastle, maybe even Liverpool.

Chelsea don't really have any half-decent right-sided option, it's one of the things that's wrong with their squad. You need to at least have the option of playing someone with a bit of natural width there if the occasion demands it.

Matt DC, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

I'd fucking love Johnson at Arsenal but wing forwards are our most wanting position atm.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

Oxlade-Chamberlain is going to be better than Johnson

Number None, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

Heh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercenary#See_also

James Mitchell, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

AOC most probably will but for the next two years, post-Arsh pre-AOC, it would be nice to have a talented mercenary, as JM kindly puts it.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

Would love to see Boba Fett in midfield.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

or tony blair

til the power failure (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

midminefield maybe

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

Right wing obv.

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

Follows oil money instead of his heart.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 12 January 2012 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

JOHN Terry has mysteriously remortgaged his mansion for a fourth time — taking his home loan to a massive £4.65MILLION.

Land Registry records show the England skipper, 31, who has a history of gambling, did the deal last June.

The £170,000-a-week Chelsea captain purchased the property in Oxshott, Surrey, with the Queen's banker Coutts for £2.25million in July 2003, according to publicly available records.

He remortgaged with Northern Rock 12 months later, then again with Coutts in March 2006 and yet again in 2009 before last June's latest remortgage for £4.65million, Land Registry figures show.

That took the soccer star's home loan to more than TWICE the value of his mansion when he bought it.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4055329/Mystery-of-John-Terrys-46m-mortgage.html

James Mitchell, Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

who has a history of gambling
who has a history of gambling
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who has a history of gambling
who has a history of gambling

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

Must have put it all on blind.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

Was gonna say, looks like his finances are no longer in the blind

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

national hero

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

other thing about adebayor, he hasn't scored any with his head. in fact i can't remember the last time spurs scored with a header.

mizzell, Thursday, 12 January 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

Bale vs Wigan? I don't know. Seems a while ago.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Thursday, 12 January 2012 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

we don't cross high nor early

til the power failure (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 January 2012 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

the thing with adebayor though, is that if you give him he ball, then he will score.

Alan Shearer (ken c), Thursday, 12 January 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

I tend to think Adebayor lacks concentration or ambition but he looks as good at Spurs as I've ever seen him.

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Thursday, 12 January 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

maybe this being a seaon loan deal will keep him focused thoughout, since he needs to convince somebody to pay him at the end of it.

mizzell, Thursday, 12 January 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

^^^ This.

Matt DC, Thursday, 12 January 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

yes, i'd actually be very wary of a permanent deal for him tbh

There was a year at arsenal where he was better again than current form, michael, but once he was established his performance/attitude dropped at an incredible rate

til the power failure (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 January 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

the thing with adebayor though, is that if you give him he ball, then he will score

I've heard you can obtain the same result by feeding a goat

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 12 January 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

I remember that vaguely. I remember liking him at first; strong, fast, agressive, could hold a long ball for the midfield. Then he looked lazy and distracted and then, lol, Man City. Aren't they paying half of his wages?

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Thursday, 12 January 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs should pick up Van Wolfswinkel at Sporting Portugal before Man United does. Think he'd be ideal for Spurs tbh.

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 12 January 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

more than half depending on what you hear

til the power failure (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 January 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

Your ceiling is 70K?

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Thursday, 12 January 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i think we're paying that and he may be getting as much as 100k from city

That alone makes a deal incredibly unlikely imo, tho of course arry's applying pressure on that cap through his lobbying for modric's new contract

til the power failure (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 January 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

I think we are already fiddling that cap through various bonuses and so forth anyway.

Matt DC, Thursday, 12 January 2012 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

What's the risk that he keeps Modric but pisses off others in the squad?

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Thursday, 12 January 2012 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

i'd say that arry is hoping that modric will open the floodgates there tbh, i'm sure the cap is a limit on him as well?

til the power failure (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 January 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs should pick up Van Wolfswinkel at Sporting Portugal before Man United does. Think he'd be ideal for Spurs tbh.

― I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:08 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

he looks kind of young and frail, is he able to hold up play?

mizzell, Thursday, 12 January 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

*this is only based on pictures of him, never seen him play.

mizzell, Thursday, 12 January 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

I think he is, yes. He's developed himself in a spectacular way. He's quite frail, I agree. He reminds me a lot of Huntelaar, who isn't 'big' either, but quick, clever and always at the right spot.

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 12 January 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

Ha! Guardian currently running with a double splash - 'Inter concede defeat over Tevez' and 'Milan deal for Tevez has collapsed'

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 12 January 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

QPR it is then

pandemic, Thursday, 12 January 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

why would Milan want to switch Pato for Tevez?

mizzell, Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

woop woop woop:

11.06am: Everton have completed the signing of Darron Gibson, who thus follows in the trail blazed by Phil Neville.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 January 2012 11:59 (thirteen years ago)

aw yeah

Number None, Friday, 13 January 2012 11:59 (thirteen years ago)

no kidding though, that's a terrible signing for them

Number None, Friday, 13 January 2012 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, dreadful. Seeing them in the flesh recently brought home to me that while their squad is thin, Everton have good players in nearly every position. Hibbert or Coleman, both of whom are basically fine, are maybe the closest thing to weak links. Gibson isn't as good as either (though I've never seen him in the flesh and don't intend to), all he's doing is bringing their average down.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 January 2012 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

Dunno, Moyes generally has a pretty decent track record when it comes to wringing decent performances out of limited journeyman type players. But then again so does Ferguson and he couldn't manage it with Gibson.

Might score a few rippers though.

Matt DC, Friday, 13 January 2012 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

Loathe to be too critical of Gibson 'cos he'll no doubt join Celtic eventually :{

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Friday, 13 January 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

Moyes does seem to go for grim plodders

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Friday, 13 January 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

He's usually had an Arteta or Gravesen in there to make them play though, that's what's missing this time round.

Matt DC, Friday, 13 January 2012 12:17 (thirteen years ago)

Might score a few rippers though.

His facility in this regard is highly overstated

Number None, Friday, 13 January 2012 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

He probably will, it still won't make him a good player though.

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 13 January 2012 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

from reading around it seems the fee was around 1m? worth a punt at that price i suppose

Number None, Friday, 13 January 2012 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

except when yr team is losing 10m+ a year and has no way of making that figure drop

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Friday, 13 January 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

contract was up in summer

nakhchivan, Friday, 13 January 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

Moyes has done alright with P Nev, Howard and Saha - who knows? Gibson was never, never, never going to make it at United though and should have been sold long ago.

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 13 January 2012 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

howard is a fine player, saha excellent and neville has immunity against bookings....not sure if darron dis ting can compete

nakhchivan, Friday, 13 January 2012 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

sylvain dis ting was a much better signing

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Friday, 13 January 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

coleman weak link gtfo

til the power failure (darraghmac), Friday, 13 January 2012 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, wondered about that one

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Friday, 13 January 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

slipped by me somehow

Number None, Friday, 13 January 2012 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

Today it has been confirmed that Kakuta will join the French club on loan for the remainder of the season.

"gael kakuta" "cut the mustard"
About 293 results (0.08 seconds)

nakhchivan, Friday, 13 January 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

According to Fergie, they've have rejected an offer from Newcastle for Ravel Morrison but he's refusing to sign a new contract at Utd. The ungrateful little shit

Number None, Friday, 13 January 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

xps I like Coleman a lot, but he seemed slow to me

Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 January 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

are there any good curry houses in liverpool for gibson to go with rooney and evans when they sign for everton?

Alan Shearer (ken c), Friday, 13 January 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

shut you're trap

til the power failure (darraghmac), Friday, 13 January 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

Kenny Dalglish has made his opening move for Wilfried Zaha after making a personal call to Crystal Palace manager Dougie Freedman.

Liverpool are in the running to sign the £10million-rated forward having kept tabs on the England Under-19 international for 18 months.

And Sportsmail can reveal that Dalglish has contacted Freedman with regards to the Anfield club’s interest in Zaha.

During the phone call, Dalglish asked the Eagles manager more about the 19-year-old’s character than his footballing ability.

nakhchivan, Friday, 13 January 2012 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

'racist?'

'not that we've noticed'

'ten million'

'done'

til the power failure (darraghmac), Friday, 13 January 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

they been tapping Kenny's phone?

Number None, Friday, 13 January 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

'racist?'

'well, he did say white people love playing divide and rule'

'what is that, some kind of boardgame?'

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Friday, 13 January 2012 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

is yr wee boy wunem 'gangsters' cuz wih do'wan that shite at pool

nakhchivan, Friday, 13 January 2012 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

Conference call with Bobby Gillespie?

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Friday, 13 January 2012 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

"does he have a good taste in music?"
"depends what you mean"
"similar to that of stevie g?"
"oh yeah, he fucking loves aqua"
"10m"

Alan Shearer (ken c), Friday, 13 January 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

phil collins you mean

Number None, Friday, 13 January 2012 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

same diff

Alan Shearer (ken c), Friday, 13 January 2012 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

19 year old winger/forward prodigy signing for a liverpool just sounds like a terrible idea

nakhchivan, Friday, 13 January 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

three league goals in 65 appearances

Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 January 2012 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

They've already got Stewart Downing there to produce those sorts of stats

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Friday, 13 January 2012 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

if only

Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 January 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

According to Fergie, they've have rejected an offer from Newcastle for Ravel Morrison but he's refusing to sign a new contract at Utd. The ungrateful little shit

He's a whole load of trouble. If even half the rumours about him are true he really doesn't sound worth the hassle of keeping.

(Ravel Morrison, not Ferguson)

Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 13 January 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, seems like a wrong'un all right. Hasn't done anything to justify a big contract either

Number None, Friday, 13 January 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

Offering £35mn for Carroll but only £10mn for a black player just goes further to prove Liverpool's racism.

James Mitchell, Friday, 13 January 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool seem to be taking a leaf out of the peter ridsdale '£40k pw and not a penny more' copybook of transfer negotiations

nakhchivan, Friday, 13 January 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

from reading around it seems the fee was around 1m? worth a punt at that price i suppose

― Number None, Friday, January 13, 2012 7:30 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

guardian says it was 500,000

mizzell, Friday, 13 January 2012 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

jeez, we really were desperate to get rid of him

Number None, Friday, 13 January 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

Everton should have held out for the full 1 million

pandemic, Friday, 13 January 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

heh

nakhchivan, Friday, 13 January 2012 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

Lovely piece on the old rooney, Nick Barmby

Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 January 2012 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

I have no memory of him playing for Liverpool

Cuthbert, Dibble & Grubb (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 13 January 2012 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

he was decent iirc

til the power failure (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2012 01:50 (thirteen years ago)

that's a great article.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 14 January 2012 02:38 (thirteen years ago)

alex going to qpr? he could've been of use to pretty much anyone imo. including chelsea.

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 14 January 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

Better than Cahill, imo

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 January 2012 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

Crikey, Bolton are £110m in debt. I think that's the most shocking figure I've seen for a club yet. At least when West Ham were quoted at about that much you could see how they might come back, but Bolton have huge potential to fall further I reckon.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 14 January 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

Especially when you factor in that their entire squad wouldn't fetch that even at the best price.

pandemic, Saturday, 14 January 2012 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

Not sure I have the will to face LFC-Stoke today.

pandemic, Saturday, 14 January 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.evertonfc.com/evertoninteractive/where-the-money-goes

Number None, Saturday, 14 January 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

I'm also inclined to forgo Liverpool today, though the thought of Andy C tossing the Stoke defence around like confetti does have some appeal. Chelsea-Sunderland could be the one to watch.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 14 January 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

Old Man Scholes is starting today, and it seems Lindegaard is now officially No. 1

Number None, Saturday, 14 January 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

Scholes looking good for a red early on

Number None, Saturday, 14 January 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

One striker on, and it's Kuyt

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 14 January 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney misses his second penalty in a row

Number None, Saturday, 14 January 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

was a good save though

Number None, Saturday, 14 January 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

spurs

til the power failure (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

Fletcher is so great this season

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 14 January 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

got the kids over so not watching, frightened to put a stream on in case i jinx it

little blue souvenir (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 January 2012 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

wrong offside against Ade right there

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 14 January 2012 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

agh. not fair. Scholes is retired!

encarta it (Gukbe), Saturday, 14 January 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

They're not too bad NV! Although, as bbc writes, they are "already parking bus" tbh

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 14 January 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

Scholes looking good for a goal early on

― Number None, Saturday, 14 January 2012 15:14 (32 minutes ago) Bookmark

Number None, Saturday, 14 January 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

Nostradamian

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 14 January 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

OT but I don't understand why Arsenal aren't trying to get Alex. Alex at QPR, jez, he can do so much better surely

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 14 January 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool v stoke is as bad as you'd expect

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

first half was atrocious. i think carroll coming on might actually improve it.

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

swear to god i had the stream on for 2 fucking minutes

little blue souvenir (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

just missed it, details pls

til the power failure (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

Modric strike makes it 1-1

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

high boot from defender in box, you don't get anything there tbf but would it be an indirect fk or what?

til the power failure (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

really tryin to concede here

til the power failure (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

It's pretty much inevitable after the publicity all week.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

Utd are look pretty dodgy too

Number None, Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

putting s hunt on cos ur afraid a guy will get sent off hmmmmm

til the power failure (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

wtf is adebayor

til the power failure (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

Welbeck scores but gets injured in the process and has to go off. Rooney gets his second assist despite being awful

Number None, Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

comedy substitution by carroll today

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

Carrick with a beauty!

Number None, Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

Kuyt missed a glorious chance, thereby setting up late Stoke winner nicely

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

k henry doesn't mind being typecast eh

til the power failure (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

fuck this, book everyone ref ffs

til the power failure (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

ref's some joker

til the power failure (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

we ought to be able to win one of these games ffs

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

last minute fk will be wasted

til the power failure (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

i take better left foot fks, he's been poor all day, along with too many others

til the power failure (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

Wolves were the wrong team for you today. You get title hype, you need to have Wigan or Villa up next.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

was gonna say, Bale sounded p ineffectual

prob won't get to see highlights of this but don't get the impression that any wrong decisions (Ade offside) are cause for that much butthurt

tumblr white's secret kool-aid drinker (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

think the 2-0 v Villa the other week was kind of the first germination of title talk tbf

tumblr white's secret kool-aid drinker (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

van der vaart should have taken the ball of bale there for the fk, that was always gonna go skyward....great result for blackburn today.

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

Playing a lone striker, who hasn't scored this season, at home to Stoke.
Fuck Off!!!!

pandemic, Saturday, 14 January 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

Nice to see Hughes has already dropped QPR into the relegation zone ;)

pandemic, Saturday, 14 January 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

Nice to see aged United legend Frankie Lamps on the scoresheet today

Cuthbert, Dibble & Grubb (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 14 January 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

mencap- no butthurt, we coudn't break down a decent wolves defence, modric, vdv, adebayor didn't hurt them at all in the entire second half, lennon and walker looked good down the flanks but no direct threat from us at all.

til the power failure (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

good point obviously, turned the stream off when Modric scored cos lol superstitious. wd it be churlish to wonder why we haven't been able to defend like that all season?

my old man's still pissed off with me for cheering when Blackburn won at Old Trafford - probly belongs in Arrgh Families thread but - told him bollocks to spending the season looking over our shoulders, got to try and win some games. don't blame Mick for getting behind the ball today. still want rid.

little blue souvenir (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 January 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

jeez bale was bad with his shooting today

Saw the corner and the offside calls

In real time, you really wouldn't blame ref for either, and i'm not slow to dig at officials. Kaboul and dawson defended the corner like fuckin mugs, maybe the ref should have pointed that out to them tbh.

We were pretty dumb in our positioning today, seeing the highlights again. Three men standing static in the wolves box all game, but never on the end of a cross or looking for a direct ball. Too easy for wolves.

Walker was super tho.

til the power failure (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

refs just aren't going to bother showing up for stoke games any more, are they?

Benefit the attacker my hole

til the power failure (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

What, you reckon we were hard done by? There was a lot of falling over in their box, but afaict nobody was getting very irate about it.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 14 January 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

barmby article was nice

nakhchivan, Saturday, 14 January 2012 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

reckon carroll had a vg shout but obv he couldn't should because of a huthlock, and regardless of where woodgate is looking he can't run up kuyt.

til the power failure (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2012 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

obv he couldn't should because of a huthlock

obv

Cuthbert, Dibble & Grubb (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 14 January 2012 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.philomel.com/imgs/phantom_words_cover.jpg

til the power failure (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2012 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

is thread broke?

til the power failure (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

that was some effort from Torres that led to the Lampard goal.

Number None, Saturday, 14 January 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

It looked like he wasn't sure if he'd scored himself while he was still on the floor

MPx4A, Saturday, 14 January 2012 23:13 (thirteen years ago)

Torres heroically tragic miss, Lampard fortuitous deflection, Cattermole moron - 3/3

MPx4A, Saturday, 14 January 2012 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

OT but I don't understand why Arsenal aren't trying to get Alex. Alex at QPR, jez, he can do so much better surely

― I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 14 January 2012 15:49 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

psv knocking us about in europe still hurts, i guess. wouldnt take aimar or carew either(, if it wasn't too late)

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 15 January 2012 07:56 (thirteen years ago)

he has the eyes of a Ralph Steadman drawing in that second one

tumblr white's secret kool-aid drinker (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 15 January 2012 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

phil dowd is a very terrible referee

pandemic, Sunday, 15 January 2012 12:29 (thirteen years ago)

psv knocking us about in europe still hurts, i guess. wouldnt take aimar or carew either(, if it wasn't too late)

― Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:56 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

So you wouldn't want Alex at Arsenal for spite? -_-

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

I was feeling pretty good last Saturday night.

To have come back from 1-0 down with 10 men at a club in such good form as MK Dons was a good effort which spoke volumes for the character in the side, especially as we haven't won an FA Cup game in 11 years! Then at 8.30 on Sunday morning I received a text from Phil Beard, QPR's chief executive, and I knew it was all over. The hardest 22 months of my career, but also the most rewarding, had come to an end.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/neil-warnock-my-world-has-been-turned-upside-down-6289415.html

James Mitchell, Sunday, 15 January 2012 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

you learned ballet sarcastically? xp

til the power failure (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 January 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

how come I am just learning that Wolves' goalkeeping coach is called PAT MOUNTAIN?

I know of no finer named sportsman

tumblr white's secret kool-aid drinker (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

Lots of Hughes coverage in today's papers. Can't say I'm warming to him:

At City, he made the security guy take down the Ricky Hatton posters in his cabin because he thought it gave the wrong impression.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno, that seems fairly prescient

Number None, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

Ha, I guess so. I missed off the next bit though:

Yet this level of detail has not always been so apparent. Hughes turned a blind eye when Robinho turned up for trips abroad in jeans and trainers when he should have been wearing a club suit.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

btw Ismael loved that Barmby article you linked to, thanks.

pandemic, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

Confirmed my poor opinion of Robson also

pandemic, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah it was nice to be reminded how good he was. You tend to forget about these more unassuming types in favour of guys with personality or a media profile.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

How long have QPR been using an Ajax strip as their away kit? Didn't they always use to have red and black hoops?

Cuthbert, Dibble & Grubb (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

this has taken me by surprise today also

pandemic, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno, I'm getting more of a colour-blind-Spice-Boys-away-kit vibe from it myself.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

Blackburn are staying up, I'm calling it.

Matt DC, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

not too sure about sky's stats, showing one newcastle attempt on target yet they have scored and paddy kenny also turned a ryan taylor effort round the post in the first half iirc

pandemic, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

no yak for 3 games and can't keep clean sheets so not so sure.
xp
unlike a lot of the bottom teams they do score consistently tho (more than us for starters)

pandemic, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

They really should stay up, theyve got the best squad down there. Liverpool down to seventh meanwhile.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

Only 36 to go this year to break the record now for RVP!

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

Player-for-player I don't think Blackburn are actually that bad and they do seem to have been involved in a fair number of high-scoring draws. A better manager than Kean would have that squad in an unexciting midtable position by now.

Might be a last-day-of-the-season escape though.

Matt DC, Sunday, 15 January 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

swansea are exceptional in midfiel, deserves a thread. Currently 67% possession against arsenal, and mostly positive in intent.

til the power failure (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 January 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

blackburn player-for-player are actually pretty bad imo

til the power failure (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 January 2012 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

so Aaaron Ramsey, a bit rubbish?

Number None, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

dunno why i felt that needed so many a's

Number None, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

it wasnt a penalty if you see the replay

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

he's still been awful though

Number None, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

any ref who got that right would just be guessing. ffs fifa/uefa bring in tv replays for refs to help them. it works in other sports.

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

did anyone here watching the game think it wasn't a penalty? I sure did at the time.

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, it looked a cert in real time

Number None, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

and yes ramsay is having a poor game but it doesn't make him rubbish. Everyone has bad days.

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

Kerr are you coming to our side? Welcome! #arsenal

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

i'll say it again, if you had to beat an epl defence and gk you wouldn't be killing yourself to keep yr balance under contact, hard enough without half-kicks and shoves allowed by the ref.

til the power failure (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

hey 'deems' wtf did that Other Guys quote come from? Made me lol just from the incongruity.

boxall, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

lbi what do you mean?

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

beauty

til the power failure (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

Dyer for England?

Number None, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

nice

Cuthbert, Dibble & Grubb (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

ugh

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

whenever i watch arsenal they concede after committing defensive errors.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

boxall- response to lbi's incredulity about sam's willingness to spite himself re alex

til the power failure (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

Kerr, meant if you'd become an Arsenal fan. But nevermind now ;_;

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

i thought you guys all knew arsenal were my 2nd english team? dmac hasn't spoken to me on aim since he found out!

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

o_O

I had no idea tbh

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool and Arsenal?

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

dyer would be v welcome competition for lennon imo, a pienaar swap or something

til the power failure (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool and arsenal, could you have more objectionable allegiances? :p

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

lol wot kerr i'd no idea!

til the power failure (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

Sinclair's better than Dyer surely.

boxall, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

does arshavin only play well at anfield?

pandemic, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

i like newcastle and sunderland (yeah i know makes no sense) in the prem and my favourite english team is crystal palace. people in glass houses etc.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

i like sigurdsson, shame he's not getting a game at a frankly underwhelming hoffenheim.

pandemic, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

Sinclair is good yeah. They only paid Chelsea 500,000 for him

Number None, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea >>> Barcelona

:)

They are fun to watch.

I miss proper wing forwards.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

my favourite english team is crystal palace. people in glass houses

Nicely done

Cuthbert, Dibble & Grubb (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

A Chelsea-and-Man-Utd fan would be the worst. I bet they're not that rare either.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

Ha Jim, I missed that.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

ha!

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

theoooooooooooooooooooo

still shit but theooooooooooooooooo

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

lol tough guy ickle feo punching the air, he looks dangerous

James Mitchell, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

ffs

James Mitchell, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

christ

James Mitchell, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

<3 this game.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

hahaha! wow!

Cuthbert, Dibble & Grubb (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

2 great finishes

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

ffffeeeeeeooooo

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

loooooooooooooooooooooool wtf

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

great stuff

Incredible centre halving there from mertkosy

til the power failure (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

wau dis game

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

I'm watching on flashscores but hahahahaha

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

Le Bateau Ivre is clearly two minutes behind the rest of us

James Mitchell, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

chesney going mental at his back 4 otm

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

streaming is piracy!

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

mertesacker! haaaaaaaaa

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

you wouldn't stream a car

Number None, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

home streaming is killing football

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

Easier to score than miss there Per.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

James, damnit I am!

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

mertesacker looks constantly tortured

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

Rosicky passing to the opposition while Henry is right next to him and in space - it seriously is like he never left.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

you can hear Tyler getting ready to unleash any time the ball goes near Henry

Number None, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

Bloodzeed is a pretty handy guy to have around for people who want to watch football online but is he not like a bit of an idiot linking to his twitter and making himself visibly like that one guy on the Internet who steals football for everyone

MPx4A, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

Oof, that should've been 4-2 tbh

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

Bloodzeed is a bloody spud, hope he gets busted.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

spuds have enough trouble w/ the law atm iirc

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea are walking this. Love their play

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

wtf is wenger wearing? he looks ridiculous.

pandemic, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

sleeping bag lady

til the power failure (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

Are there any actual superstars in this team or is it just a case of Brendan Rogers is the next great manager? He has been hyped through the roof for a couple years but when he fell apart at Reading, it kinda all disappeared.

Helps that we are just so tame. No Arteta, no Wilshere, no threat from the wings, full backs are centre halves who don't naturally spread the play&possession...

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger has always rocked the michelin man coat.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

when is wilshere due back?

pandemic, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

wenger sporting "the avb position", aka "the crapper"

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

This season whoever finishes 4th doesn't deserve to play in the Champions Lge if it's one of Arsenal/Chelsea/LFC. All v v poor.

Swansea were good tho

pandemic, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger has now resorted to shitting on the pitch

James Mitchell, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

jesus steady on, one of those teams could still get third tbf

til the power failure (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

that is probably my favourite non-Spurs result of the season thus far

tumblr white's secret kool-aid drinker (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

http://i43.tinypic.com/15sanuw.jpg

James Mitchell, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea up to tenth! Gotta hand it to them tbh

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

top quality intense stoppage-time whistling from their fans, but they saw it out pretty calmly all told

MPx4A, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

Newcastle deserve fourth, except that it's damning that they don't have it already

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

I was born to hate Newcastle and devotedly did so all my life but this season they are just really, really good and I am warming to them. They couldn't have done it with even Shearer's ghost still haunting that team tbh

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

From J, via text: "Wenger complains teams never engage Arsenal in a game of football, but any time it happens their defensive frailties are all too obvious. Well played Swans."

otm

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

it's the same bloody excuse Ajax always comes up with. Well that and the fact that it rained

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

i don't hate any club as a matter of principle, just take it regime-by-regime or season-by-season, and it's genuinely only liverpool that have been constant the past five-six years

til the power failure (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

Hate Newcastle and Chelsea usually, but have warmed to both this year. Utd are this year's, without their awfulness I'd like pretty much the whole division.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

I'm starting to hate Liverpool a bit though.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

Agreed. Can't stand United this year, can't stand Scholes, can't stand Fergie, can't stand Rooney... ugh

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool's failing doesn't make me hate them more. Makes them more real tbh

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

I still enjoyed them when they were properly failing, but unless we're facing a big team this year is just ugh.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:17 (thirteen years ago)

h8 arsenal and stoke and utd and pool and wigan

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

2nd half against Man City on Weds was my only ugh moment with LFC this season. Mostly inept at home but good away and I love the defence and the majority of the players tbh. Just exasperated cos I think Chelsea, Arsenal are genuinely rubbish and 4th place should have been there for the taking.

Used to love Bergkamp era Arsenal, hate this lot tho.

Spurs not hateable yet but give it a few more weeks and I'm sure I'll manage it.

pandemic, Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I'm being unfair because at least some of the bad home form really is down to luck, but what I can't handle is that it rarely looks like it when we're chasing the win. We always look like a dour mid-table side punching above their weight, if anything.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

From J, via text: "Wenger complains teams never engage Arsenal in a game of football, but any time it happens their defensive frailties are all too obvious. Well played Swans."

otm

― I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:07 (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

The BBC published that? That's PhD level stuff by their standards

MPx4A, Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

top reasons that i might begin to hate a team over time:-

consistent on-pitch thuggery (particularly unpunished)- stoke, f'rinstance
consistent favouritism from refs/FA- utd, f'rinstance, tho stoke also
consistent refusal to take responsibility for own job- rafa, f'rinstance, tho wenger also
consistent frustration with manager/players tactics/performance - spurs, arsenal, utd, lfc

til the power failure (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

The BBC published that? That's PhD level stuff by their standards

― MPx4A, Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:28 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I know right? Bevan must've looked to left 'n right, saw that Nult wasn't around quickly pressed publish I think

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

is it just a case of Brendan Rogers is the next great manager?

I think he's developing a Scottish accent just in case. LOL his son is called Anton Rodgers!

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5088/5316948154_2f8a48ae48.jpg

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Monday, 16 January 2012 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea and Norwich do seem a bit unusual for promoted sides. Normally the ones that do well are either ugly-but-effective, or on a lucky run that's clearly going to end. I don't think you can say that about these two.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 January 2012 11:26 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not sure that Norwich are that unusual, they remind me of Reading in their first year, even Wigan in their first season. Swansea are genuinely surprising.

Matt DC, Monday, 16 January 2012 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, Norwich can play a bit but it's a pretty orthodox English style of playing a bit, pace and wide men and shonky defending.

still better than us :(

little blue souvenir (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 January 2012 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea have the worst away record in the league.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Monday, 16 January 2012 12:22 (thirteen years ago)

And one of the best home records in the league. Surprisingly good defence given they change personnel quite a bit as well. For the amount he cost and the difference he's made, Vorm might be the signing of the season. They'll sell him at a massive profit if nothing else.

Matt DC, Monday, 16 January 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

Why are they so shite away from home though?

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Monday, 16 January 2012 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

ipswich were a class outfit first season up, the only thing strange about this is two promoted sides doing well while playing well.

Hull, blackpool were doing well playing well roundabouts now in their respective relegations seasons, tbf.

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

that norwich can play a bit is unusual insofar as their squad seems to consist of a bunch of league one-standard journeymen. with swansea we at least have the more obvious dark magic of somehow having britain's answer to xavi and iniesta in the middle.

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Monday, 16 January 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

Can't remember where I read it, but there was a fascinating article somewhere that broke down the stats to demonstrate that home advantage was a factor the more team-based a sport is. It's quite pronounced in football, middling in something like baseball, and almost irrelevant in tennis.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 January 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

long distance to travel, opponents don't have ling distance to travel.???

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

Hull and Blackpool had started to slip by now, Swansea seem to be improving.

Matt DC, Monday, 16 January 2012 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

Apparently not, it reckons the hostile crowd really does have an effect on teamwork. Wish I could remember so's I could link it.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 January 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

Richard Williams piece in the Graun today was saying that he's been concentrating on getting the Swansea players to make the right decisions correctly under pressure. That's much more likely to be affected by hostile crowds, I reckon.

Matt DC, Monday, 16 January 2012 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

Brendan Rogers, not Richard Williams. I wouldn't trust Richard Williams to manage my football team.

Matt DC, Monday, 16 January 2012 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

that norwich can play a bit is unusual insofar as their squad seems to consist of a bunch of league one-standard journeymen.

Ditto Blackpool. Difference in quality of the respective managers signifcant I would think.

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Monday, 16 January 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

Blackpool were 2 points better off than Swansea at the same point in their Prem season, though by then the rot had definitely set in. They'd conceded a lot more goals.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Monday, 16 January 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

It was this dissenting lrb review. The stats guys actually pin it on bent refereeing, but the teamwork thing is more plausible imo.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 January 2012 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

I read an article around home advantage, and as well as it affecting team sports more than individual sports, it also affects male teams waaaay more than female teams. I think the evolutionary-biology-style conclusion that home advantage is about men protecting their territory from marauding intruders, which sounds a little cute to me.

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Monday, 16 January 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

Are there also Premiership clubs that are notoriously bad away from home? Who have that reputation?

For example here in Holland we have Heracles Almelo, who usually end up being just save from relegation. They have the worst away from home stats nearly every season. Managers and players come and go, but that just seems to forever stay that way. So weird.

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 16 January 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

savfe

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 16 January 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

spurs away were historically poor iirc

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

Hull did well the first half of their first Prem season and were more or less abject after the thrashing at Man City/Phil Brown's Caligula complex kicked in

little blue souvenir (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 January 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

didn't do well thru playing excellent football tho iirc

little blue souvenir (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 January 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

It's the IPL, but for football. I'm up for this.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 January 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

Am happy to see them figure out no longer being the worlds worst footballers or whatever they are supposed to be according to Why England Lose

Also hope this means I can say more about football to some of my workmates other than 'yes, that is Wayne Rooney you saw in the paper'.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

Cahill to Chelsea has completed by the looks of things? Should convert David Luiz into a midfielder now.

Matt DC, Monday, 16 January 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

defenders that would be better as midfielders, a list:

david luiz
djourou
Agger?
P jones
G johnson

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

Agger would be a beast now you mention it.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

Loads of fullbacks would make serviceable-to-great wingers, central defenders are a different kettle of fish. I notice Kaboul has been making more and more marauding runs forward of late, and he can pass the ball as well, he'd be pretty decent.

Matt DC, Monday, 16 January 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

kaboul a good candidate, tho tbf at pompey he was a roaming fb so not a new suggestion

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.runofplay.com/2011/11/22/generalissimo/

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

this isnt that common....i wrote abt fullback/winger swaps usually not working somewhere

cb--dm transfers work more often i think

luiz is the only one of those that might make sense

nakhchivan, Monday, 16 January 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

Phil Jones is developing into the original jack of all trades, master of none

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Monday, 16 January 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

Phil Jones is being developed into the original jack of all trades, master of none

nakhchivan, Monday, 16 January 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

Should have stuck with John O'Shea then.

Thought that Phil Jones was looking great for the first half of this season but he's looked newly calamitous of late.

Matt DC, Monday, 16 January 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

jones will be a good defender in time

nakhchivan, Monday, 16 January 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

Still a young 'un tho

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Monday, 16 January 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

(xp)

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Monday, 16 January 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

I think it's more that fergie's asked him to play all over the pitch because of the thin squad, rather than being consciously developed in that way. xp

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Monday, 16 January 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

Smalling is gonna be way better tho

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

i have been reading run of play on my kindle as late, technology imo

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

Would have thought that positioning is as important at DM as it is at CB and therefore wouldn't fancy Luiz there at all.

pandemic, Monday, 16 January 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

older than time yet younger than theo walcott

nakhchivan, Monday, 16 January 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

there are many differences in midfield tho

luiz' recovery pace would be more efficient than at cb where its usually too late when the mistakes are made

but i dont think he would be a romeu-makalele type adjunct cb,, more a hyperactive gattuso

nakhchivan, Monday, 16 January 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

Shld just play Luiz as a winger already

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

dude is also a serious sight charging fwd with the ball

Essien's return makes it a bit academic tbh

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

Essien is a bit too Owen Hargreaves in my mind now. But I guess if Ledley King can still play regularly, Essien has a chance.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

yeah he is impressive

but then lucio also looked like a storming attacking mid before he composed as a defender

nakhchivan, Monday, 16 January 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

essien will be able to play regularly cuz he has had injuries rather than a debilitating condition a la king

he looked past his best before the injury tho

nakhchivan, Monday, 16 January 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

luiz

You get the odd player like him on management sims, ability points assigned at fuckin random, fuck all good in any position

Abou diaby too i suppose

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

needs to bulk up, slow down and become big abou diaby

nakhchivan, Monday, 16 January 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

Abou Diaby is fine stats-wise for his AMC position and if he hadn't spent the 5 five years recovering from being shawx he would... aw fuck it.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

no, he's shit

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal youngsters since the invincibles that are failures/shit, a list:

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

big henri lansbury
big jay emmanuel thomas
big philippe senderos

nakhchivan, Monday, 16 January 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

We'll be here all night

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/Premier%20League/mannschaftskapitaene/wettbewerb_GB1.html

nakhchivan, Monday, 16 January 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

walcott
Diaby
Gibbs
Others

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

a lot of british, not a lot of ~diversity~ xp

nakhchivan, Monday, 16 January 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

Arshavin
Denilson
Rosicky (RIP)
Bendtner
All the defenders except Vermaelan

Matt DC, Monday, 16 January 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

Oh shit we're talking about youngsters right? Scratch most of them.

Matt DC, Monday, 16 January 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

Wilshere's basically the only unqualified success, right?

Matt DC, Monday, 16 January 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

ya was gonna say, and i like bendtndnteter tbh

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

Failures is such a ghastly word to use. Would Barca fans think of Arteta as a failure now it has been a decade since he left? Also i dunno how you could call Rosicky or Arshavin youngsters. So...

Denilson (Brazil u18 captain when we signed him to big expectations; now not really doing much at Sao Paolo and still not in the Brazil team despite it not being a vintage Brazilian midfield)
Vela (Top scorer at the u17s, wanted by p much every big club in Europe, scored some beautiful goals; now has a 2-in-12 record at Sociedad)
Bendtner (Great case of 'being bigger than everyone during yr teenage years doesn't mean you'll be able to bully them when everyone has grown up')
Freeman (Youngest ever player in the FA Cup, now back in League 2).
Theo (Has there ever been such a high expectation for a player? Denilson at Betis maybe? Even if he goes on to have a fine career, he'll never live up to it.)

Just shit, with no expectation-

The Hoyte brothers
Traore
Mannone
Randall
Many guys I can't even remember

Players who may go on to have a decent career-

JET (he is more like darragh's description of the player with his stats out of cock and he was tried at Arsenal in every position bar goalie. Once he finds a manager who can figure him out, I think there is a talented player to be used.)
Merida (Doing decent as cover at Atleti - has v. good technique, which is a talent that usually shines thru in the end.)
Senderos (looks v. stable in the Fulham back 4 now, come on, admit it)
Lansbury (in a v. good partnership with Collison atm, looks like he will be a good midtable player one day)

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

failure for arsenal

That was imo obvious

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

Wilshere's basically the only unqualified success, right?

― Matt DC, Monday, 16 January 2012 16:37 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

If we are going on the idea that Cole doesn't count and we are only looking at new Hale End Academy prospects, we also have to remember that we are only judging players under 22. As successes, I'd look at Gibbs (injuries only problem but talent wise, it is p much a given he'll take over Cole as the best English left back) and maybe Frimpong as well as Wilshere.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

What about Ramsey?

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

He has only been at the club 3 or 4 years, half of which were spent in recovery or on loan.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

wilshere not yet, ramsey not likely, gibbs not ever

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

Oh right, I didn't realise he'd come from Cardiff City (xp) Ramsey's not bad?

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

Cole isn't a post-Invincibles player, so no he doesn't count. Fabregas does though. Ramsey is pretty good.

Matt DC, Monday, 16 January 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

Ramsey will one day be a cracking player but he's nowhere near yet. He's currently Gareth Barry, needs to make the step to Steven Gerrard and from there can decide if he wants to do the work to go further.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

listen to better music

Alan Shearer (ken c), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

future carrick

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

^ cruel

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

cruel but it is a possibility, i won't lie.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

For what it's worth: Part-owner of Swansea, Dutchman John van Zweden, today has said on Dutch radio that Man United, Chelsea, Spurs and Fulham all have been in touch with the club, inquiring after Michel Vorm.

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

He said Jol had actually dropped by Swansea, the others phoned.

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

that seems stupid at every single one of those clubs, considering they all have stable keepers. maybe not spurs, as brad is getting up in age.

not that transfers make sense.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

Don't shoot the piano player, but don't three of those (except ManU) have relatively old keepers?

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

and none of the unold keepers are undeserving of competition

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

Don't shoot the piano player

Fergie plays the piano, doesn't he?

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

united: two young keepers, neither totally convincing. chelsea: cech imo is p shite nowadays. spurs: friedel is 40. fulham: schwarzer is also old as shit, wiki says 39.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

otm. Thought it was remarkable as this guy partly owns the club. He's on Dutch radio regularly now that Swansea are in the Prem. I heard him last night when he was in a restaurant dining with Augustien, Vorm, and English Swansea player and their wives. He certainly isn't diplomatic, he's rather tell all and not too bright from what I can tell, but amusingly honest and down to earth to listen to. Just a simple man living the dream iirc

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

also vorm's form is currently the best in the league imo.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

that otm was for deems tbh, but jim otm too

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

Was thinking Stockdale, who has been v. good for over a year now.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

Was thinking Stockdale, who has been v. good for over a year now.

forgot about him. don't think ive seen him play.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

Looks pretty good

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

But goalies can flatter to deceive

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

The radio show is broadcast from a restaurant, or you were in a restaurant and actually recognised the part-owner of Swansea?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 January 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

The Swansea party was in a restaurant, the Dutch radio show phoned him on his cell.

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

Would happily take Vorm in the summer without thinking twoce about it. Only in the summer though, Brad doesn't deserve to be dropped.

Matt DC, Monday, 16 January 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

Anyone watch Liverpool-Stoke? How was Coates? Would seem to be a good match of opponent for a 2-meter centre-back.

boxall, Monday, 16 January 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

No one watched that game. It may not even have happened

Number None, Monday, 16 January 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

^^ Yeah it's funny, the Guardian's chalkboards for that match are missing so I can't look at his 'aerial duels won/lost' or anything. Pretty sure a Spurs fan was being critical of the reffing upthread though.

boxall, Monday, 16 January 2012 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

Coates looked pretty Aggeresque going forward, but seems a bit clumsy in the tackle. Stoke barely got into the LFC half so hard to say if he's any good; playing next to the guttering Carra would flatter anyone at the moment.

Stevie T, Monday, 16 January 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

I was watching but devoted so much of my attention to propping my chin on my folded hands and sighing that I couldn't tell you much about it. Kuyt missed a good chance, I was surprised to see Coates, that's about it.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 January 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

I don't suppose there's any chance in help City won't win this?

Matt DC, Monday, 16 January 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

maybe a chance in help but not in hell. Wigan look absolutely dire.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 16 January 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno, they're intermittently spirited

they seemed to sag a bit in the middle when their fans started booing them for being 1-0 down to the team that steamrollers everybody

MPx4A, Monday, 16 January 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan fans boo them?! Ffs, where do they get a sense of entitlement from?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 January 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

I think that was what was happening, then Victor Moses did some industrious running and they camped on the edge of City's area almost creating chances for a couple of minutes and they seemed to be grudgingly satisfied at half time as a result

I dunno, I guess being 1-0 down and bottom and freezing and living in Wigan, y'know, something's gotta give

MPx4A, Monday, 16 January 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

I can understand you lot pining for something more, but even this shambles is probably close to the all-time best Wigan XI that they're watching.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 January 2012 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

Steve Bruce is out of work though right, maybe they're pining for a return to a more simple existence

MPx4A, Monday, 16 January 2012 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

'You were flyin' out there buddy.'
'Yes. A little too close to the sun.'

MPx4A, Monday, 16 January 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

oh come on, the years when bramble/palacios/valencia/heskey were rocking it was their best.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

That was when the resentment at their existence was at its peak, now they've been critically rehabilitated but are dropping like a stone

MPx4A, Monday, 16 January 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

aguero's balance ffs

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

Comparing Wigan eras, I like it.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 January 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

lol dzeko. moment of the season for me

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Monday, 16 January 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

aguero wasn't ever goin to shoot there tbf

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

Why isn't Balotelli on the bench? Why always him?

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 16 January 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

injured

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

Just noticed they have a 17yo defender on the bench, City, surely they'll pick someone up in the next two weeks.

boxall, Monday, 16 January 2012 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

Should I be watching this? I've been catching up on holiday motds instead - Lordy at the goals (all three) from Newcastle v Man Utd.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 January 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

ref wtf reddest card pls

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

mancini take your imaginary red card and shove it up your arse. You keep doing this. You should be setting a good example to your players.

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Monday, 16 January 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

Um, sounds like Mancini should've been getting the imaginary red out tbh. City could use getting in the ref's face more imo.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 January 2012 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

nonsense! Red cards exist for offences, if your team should be benefitting from one then calling it is no worse an offense than protesting an offside, penalty, any other call.

And kompany, there's been ten tackles worse since and no reds, so fuckin right mancini is calling for some reds

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

I find it distracting when players do it on the pitch, could care less what those on the sidelines get up to.

Moratti claims Inter have offered 25m EU for Tevez!

boxall, Monday, 16 January 2012 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

don't think players shd actively seek to influence referees. don't think every referee in the Premier league shd be a useless cunt. bit of an impasse.

little blue souvenir (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 January 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

ya

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

so i've converted to fifa12 xbox and i gotta admit it does most things a lot better than the last few PES efforts.

For some reason, my spurs team only gets to use 9 players

?

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

don't control the goalie, actively reflecting what vdv brings to the team

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

no i mean only nine players start each game

wtg microsoft

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 23:23 (thirteen years ago)

man, "they" will do anything to stop Spurs winning the league

Number None, Monday, 16 January 2012 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

otm

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 23:34 (thirteen years ago)

'two of your players have "food poisoning"' cuuuuuuuunts

modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 23:35 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan's manager, Roberto Martínez, however, believes the Italian should know such actions will be condemned in the Premier League. "I've been here long enough to understand that trying to influence the referee is not accepted in the British game,"

oh bertypaws

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 00:48 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't see Mancini in this game but he criticised for gesturing for a card in another game when he was obv. just being Italian...

http://www.aspetto.com/Book-Italian_Without_Words-lg.jpg

... football pundits are so stupid

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 09:51 (thirteen years ago)

oh come on, the years when bramble/palacios/valencia/heskey were rocking it was their best

Preferred the earlier Paul Jewell-era Wigan really. Didn't they have an excellent talent scout who went with Bruce to Sunderland and then died? Leaving Bruce suddenly with nowhere to hide and no ideas?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 09:57 (thirteen years ago)

Are there any other universally-recognised, unmitigable crimes in football besides waving an imaginary card? I can only think of spitting, and even that's alright so long as it's not on someone.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 09:59 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think waving an imaginary card is considered a big crime everywhere

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 10:00 (thirteen years ago)

Fouling the goalkeeper always seems to get players' danders up no matter where you are though

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 10:02 (thirteen years ago)

Scoring a goal when there's an opposition player writhing on the floor in genuine agony tends to be frowned upon.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 10:03 (thirteen years ago)

Not giving the ball back is okay if it's late on and you really, really need a goal.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 10:04 (thirteen years ago)

competing for a drop ball even tho play was stopped because your opponent injured themself?

little blue souvenir (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 10:04 (thirteen years ago)

a good shawxing?

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 10:24 (thirteen years ago)

not engaging a "footballing team"

Alan Shearer (ken c), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 10:25 (thirteen years ago)

"parking the bus"

Number None, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

not killing yourself staying up after being fouled

modric conservative (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

Nani-esque fannydangle while winning, apparently?

At the Palace-Villa cup tie a couple of years ago, Stephen Warnock was sent to change his shirt twice because he got elbowed in the nose by a Palace player twice and kept bleeding everywhere. On one of them, Palace put the drop ball out for a throw opposite Villa's penalty area and contested it aggressively. Then when one of their players got injured towards the end, Milner did the same and their fans and players went nuts at him, resulting in entertaining 'I...what?' body language from the granite-hewn Yorkshireman

MPx4A, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:13 (thirteen years ago)

spurs playing on and ?scoring? after a gilberto silva dive/roll/foul against arsenal a couple years ago

modric conservative (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

nani's goal after the non-freekick for his handball

Alan Shearer (ken c), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:26 (thirteen years ago)

fucking right

modric conservative (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:32 (thirteen years ago)

spurs' pathetically baseless protests after roy carroll clearly saved the shot that never crossed the line.

Alan Shearer (ken c), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/john-terry-gets-one-in-the-nuts-during-visit-to-the-abbey-school/

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

Nani-esque fannydangle while winning, apparently?

I found the outrage about this particularly puzzling.

Number None, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

is disrespectful to your fellow professionals who have been trying to shawx you for the previous 80 minutes

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

Barcelona XI @ Athletic Bilbao, 20 May 2006: Jorquera, Belletti, Oleguer, Jesus Olmo, Orlandi, Thiago Motta, Sylvestre, Ezquerro, Maxi Lopez, Giuly, Eto'o

Swansea XI @ Aston Villa, 2 January 2012: Vorm, Rangel, Caulker, Williams, Taylor, Britton, Agustien, Dyer, Orlandi, Routledge, Graham

boxall, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Orlandi

Is this bit of trivia widely known? I thought I was a Swansea bandwagon-hopper in good standing but it took me months to catch.

Sylvestre in that side played for Blackpool last season too! (Barca had already wrapped up La Liga by this match, obv.)

boxall, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

haha yeah that line up is terrible tbh

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

Still counts!

boxall, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

Ancelotti: '"I was keen on a year-long sabbatical, hoping that in the summer a job like Tottenham or Arsenal – a top London bench – would become available, but I was tired of not working," he said.'

Interesting imo.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

there were lots of rumblings about him taking over from harry. and when i say rumblings, i mean my spud brother being sure it was going to happen and he reads spurs blogs and stuff.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

it would have been ok, would that imo

modric conservative (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

It's him confirming his thinking that's the interesting thing to me. Timewise there's got to be a good prospect of him succeeding Wenger.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno will he be out of psg that soon

modric conservative (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

He might find it respectable to walk in 18/30 months' time, with a title or two under his belt, is what I mean. Or they could just sack him.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

which

modric conservative (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

'title or two' says carlo, 'just sack him' says wenger yknow

modric conservative (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

if wenger doesnt make the top 4, i think the position may be open come june

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

newcastle sign Cisse from Freiburg, not a great replacement for Ba, seeing as he will also be at the CAN, but I wonder if any other clubs were in for him.

mizzell, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

spurs were trailing him for a while there- centre forward type?

modric conservative (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

His g/g record's as good as Ba's was before he arrived. pandemic likes him iirc.

What's new-era Newcastle's wage structure like? What caliber player can they attract before they begin to unsettle the current bunch?

boxall, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

when you're aiming to consolidate in the top 8 then you've no business paying over 50k so i guess they'll be ok

modric conservative (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

Also their biggest name star is probably Ben Arfa and he's not even a regular starter, so you've got to assume the XI are playing out of their skin for hunger rather than money. It's plain weird, the possibility that they might be pound-for-pound the best-run club in the country now.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

He's delivering on the entertainment quotient at least: Hatem Ben Arfa to be sued by French rapper over religious cult claims

boxall, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 01:10 (thirteen years ago)

when you're aiming to consolidate in the top 8 then you've no business paying over 50k so i guess they'll be ok

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tbh any club in the country shouldn't be looking to pay more than straight 50k per player (before performance related bonuses), bar the captain and top two names. but you know

tbh spurs may be even better pound-for-pound. although i guess the carroll money skews the outcome a bit.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 07:22 (thirteen years ago)

tbh need to stop saying tbh tbh

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 07:22 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder if any other clubs were in for him.

p sure there are no super quality strikers on the market atm

/wenger

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 07:45 (thirteen years ago)

"What's so special about Arsenal is the family atmosphere and the warmth," Van Persie said. "When you come in here, you're always welcomed like a brother. Mikel Arteta (the summer signing from Everton) played against us for years but he walks into the dressing-room and he's one of us.

"The kit men, Vic and Paul Akers, have worked at the club for years. They love the club and they do everything for us; outfits, shoes, balls but, also, when I want to go to Disney on Ice, they arrange it. They represent the true Arsenal feeling and we've got some more like these men."

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 09:11 (thirteen years ago)

We're fucked.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 09:13 (thirteen years ago)

hahaha

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 09:34 (thirteen years ago)

hahaha

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 12:29 (thirteen years ago)

another MLS goalscorer from the past couple of years is trialing with a struggling prem side -- sebastien le toux to bolton?

long duk dan (dan m), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

I'll take whatever we can get tbh.

encarta it (Gukbe), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

so not baller

Red Bulls defender (for now at least) Tim Ream was at Old Trafford on Saturday to take in Bolton’s Premier League match against Manchester United, a 3-0 victory for the Red Devils.

Reached by text message Saturday morning and asked if he was in the stands Ream responded, “No, in a box.”

When the U.S. national team defender was asked if he could handle a phone call later Saturday he wrote, “Yah, when I get a new international number so I’m not paying an arm and a leg.”

Ream, 23, probably will not have to worry about those expenses much longer. He is expected to be introduced by Bolton early this week in a deal that will substantially increase his modest M.L.S. salary from last season, which was listed as $62,625.

mizzell, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

definitely talent to be had on the cheap here -- le toux had a so-so 2011 w/ 11 goals in 34 games, but in 2010 he had 14 in 28, plus 11 assists. his salary for last year is listed at $179k.

long duk dan (dan m), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

It's just nice to be able to aspire to footballer wages for once.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

real value in ireland still imo

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.arshavin.eu/en/news.php?id=746

James Mitchell, Thursday, 19 January 2012 09:20 (thirteen years ago)

lfc appear to have gotten a good kit deal, i don't understand there being a story here tbh

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

The adidas ones have been mostly rubbish. Too much going on. I hope the new guys revert to classic simplicity.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 19 January 2012 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

hmm.

Shanghai Shenhua claim they were in talks to sign striker Didier Drogba just a month after landing his Chelsea team-mate Nicolas Anelka. Shenhua owner Zhu Jun said: "It's like flirting with a girl. Perhaps she will resist you at first, but if you continue to ask her out, it always ends well. Never give up.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

Zhu Jun sounds like a rapey character.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

Yes he does. a bit too rapey for my liking

kid steel (cajunsunday), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

you can chase a girl w/out raping her fyi guys

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

Funny I was just reading an article last week (was it in the New Statesman?) about how the Chinese are shite at football

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

yes but you can also be taught no means no

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno, maybe chinese ppl are different being disgusting savages and all

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

it was prob this Tom D? http://www.economist.com/node/21541716

good read imo.

jabba hands, Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

The Economist! Right!

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

Looks like Onuoha to QPR is a thing. Decent signing I think?

Matt DC, Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

always liked onouha, maybe not as a top 4 player but as 4th best english right back. kinda like warnock.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

he's never 4th best!

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:37 (thirteen years ago)

warnock or onouha?

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

warnock was prob 3rd best lb option for a while, but i meant onouha at rb

Smalling, richards, johnson, walker and i'm not even stretching, kelly at liverpool, naughton, phil nev maybe, gnev maybe,

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

I applaud the Herculean levels of restraint it must have taken for you not to put Rooney in there.

Matt DC, Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

^^^^^^^this

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

Also Onouha's a centre-back really? Ditto Smalling.

Matt DC, Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

So the JTW has been p dead... Cahill happened...

Blimey FFP is going to be boring until clubs start going under.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah! Die, Darlington, Die!

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

definitely the overreaction i am having.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

i'm off the rooney rb trip, pour one out for my homie suedey ;_;

Yeah jan's been dead, it's a problematic window historically tbf

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

Drogba and Malouda are on their way.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 19 January 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

In fact, without meaning to prejudice a trial, think about why Drogba and Malouda want out of EBJT's Chelsea.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 19 January 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

pfft this time last year i think suarez was about to sign which in turn made the lols to end all lols begin

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 19 January 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

So the JTW has been p dead

Didn't the whole Torres/Carroll madness happen on the very last day?

Cuthbert, Dibble & Grubb (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

last ten mins

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

we'd had suarez and dzeko by now

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool signing w/ Warrior is kinda lol for some reason, I had no idea they did anything but hockey gear

long duk dan (dan m), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

don't think they did till recently when they got a deal with the red sox.

mizzell, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

QPR getting Taiwo from Milan, that seems like a good signing.

mizzell, Friday, 20 January 2012 00:17 (thirteen years ago)

he was one of the last next big things

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Friday, 20 January 2012 00:19 (thirteen years ago)

heard kranjcar and pav too, i'll support them myself if that happens

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Friday, 20 January 2012 00:20 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/19/manchester-united-david-de-gea-eye-surgery

age is not a number of years but a great experience in life (admrl), Friday, 20 January 2012 00:24 (thirteen years ago)

Did you hear the one about the goalkeeper who needed eye surgery?

age is not a number of years but a great experience in life (admrl), Friday, 20 January 2012 00:25 (thirteen years ago)

weak under the 'eyeballs imo

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Friday, 20 January 2012 00:26 (thirteen years ago)

blimey warnock was poisoned.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Friday, 20 January 2012 06:32 (thirteen years ago)

Gonna put money on Fergie's next signing coming straight from the Make-a-Wish Foundation.

Matt DC, Friday, 20 January 2012 10:10 (thirteen years ago)

see, that's actually really offensive

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Friday, 20 January 2012 10:12 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/jan/20/arsenal-manchester-united-live-fox/print

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 20 January 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

I thought Utd-Chelsea already had that honour.

Piers Morgan though. At least he'd be a plausible supporter of either side.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 20 January 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

yes i thought same

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 20 January 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

eye problem??

Your Host For The Top 25 Countdown for Metal Poll (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 20 January 2012 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

hm yeah I'm not sure that's entirely accurate

long duk dan (dan m), Friday, 20 January 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

what proportion of nfl viewers wd know a single asnl/utd player

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 20 January 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/ReSjT.jpg

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 20 January 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

given that they'll be leading into the sf/ny game, I'd say a lot of those fans have at least heard of wayne rooney, and there'll be a sizable hispanic crowd that will of course know chicharito and many more

long duk dan (dan m), Friday, 20 January 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

p certain ignasi miquel has a huge following

...

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Friday, 20 January 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

What's become of Carl Jenkinson? Any prospect of him reprising his OT performance?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 20 January 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

He got a p big injury in November, 'out' and not a big enough name* to talk about when injuries are bought up so no-one really knows.

*We are given minute-by-minute details of Wilshere's recovery and Sagna and Gibbs will be back soon. Arteta and maybe Vermaelan should be fine for Sunday.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Friday, 20 January 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

Arteta's out says the guardian liveblog. Wilshere's been out forever, he'll be a man by the time he gets back.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 20 January 2012 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

bugger super sunday tho, tomorrow the ANC starts - any good thread title suggestions?

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Friday, 20 January 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

Cameroon won't be on dis ting, because they didn't qualify - ACN 2012

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Friday, 20 January 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

I had a ticket for Sunday btw - I wasn't fussed about going, then changed my mind but by then I'd promised it to someone else. Feel unreasonably aggrieved about this tbh. It had better be awful.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 20 January 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

it's ok ref, i only called him negras (palancas negras is the angola manager) - acn 2012

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Friday, 20 January 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal-utd has about an 80% chance of being one of the best games of the season! last time it was 8-2! why the lack of fuss?

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Friday, 20 January 2012 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

Botswana? I never even knew her! ACN 2012

Let's do it for Gaddhafi, ey guys? ey? ACN 2012

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Friday, 20 January 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I know. Utd have been mostly awful to watch was my thinking, then of course they briefly got good. If I get tickets for Spurs there'll be no such nonsense.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 20 January 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

awful to watch kinda falls away when there are lols/craziness/controversy to be had.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Friday, 20 January 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

Given how inept both Arsenal and United have been at the back of late there's no way this game isn't going to be brilliant and hilarious.

Matt DC, Friday, 20 January 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah well :( You can get just as much fun from a grainy stream too, eh? I'm still kind of pleased that the red membership thing came up with the goods though, I thought there was no chance.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 20 January 2012 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

on Thomas Vermaelen (calf)
At the moment I don’t think he will make it for Sunday. Let’s hope we have a good surprise. Let’s see how he develops. There may be a test. At the moment we just go day by day but he looks short.

on Mikel Arteta (calf)…
He has no chance. The earliest for him is Aston Villa.

on Thierry Henry…
He will have a test on Saturday. He has a calf problem.

on Jack Wilshere (ankle)…
There is positive news about him because he is back to running after he had a little setback with the inflammation of his bone. He is able to go outside and practice but he is a few weeks away.

on Bacary Sagna (ankle) and Kieran Gibbs (groin)...
Both of them are about two to three weeks away.

on Francis Coquelin (hamstring)…
He is three, four or five days away from full training. I did not see him on Thursday but he is not far away. He could be available for Aston Villa.

on Lukasz Fabianski...
He is fit again.

on Carl Jenkinson (back)…
He is like Wilshere. He is back running but it will be a few weeks.

on Andre Santos (ankle)...
He is two months away. He is progressing well. We planned 12 weeks and he is on schedule.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Friday, 20 January 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

Fabianski situation must be the real killer there.

Matt DC, Friday, 20 January 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

Well it is either him or a 19 year old Argentine for the bench, so I guess it is a good thing?

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Friday, 20 January 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

iirc the Chelsea match was shown by Fox on a Sunday evening in the States, to compete with NBC's Sunday night NFL coverage, but of course the match had taken place 10 hours previously. (xp)

boxall, Friday, 20 January 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

Come back Eboue, Balotelli just isn't the same - ACN 2012

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Friday, 20 January 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

Egypt will almost certainly win the African Nations Cup 2012

Matt DC, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

Smalling is back for Utd thankfully

Number None, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

egypt probably wouldnt have won even if they did qualify

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

american manager iirc

long duk dan (dan m), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

yeah egypt didnt qualify or was that the joke

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

The African Cup of Nations really is taking place in Equatorial Guinea 2012

Ismael Klata, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

Hah, I'd just assumed they were in it.

Matt DC, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

some friends and I considered placing a large bet on egypt to win the ACN based on the belief that the gov't of one of the qualified nations would be toppled, thus clearing the way for teh pharoahs eventual triumph

we might have been slightly intoxicated when ginning up this plan

long duk dan (dan m), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

the lions of téranga will not be equatorial guinea pigs: can 2k12

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

Suggest nicknaming the British Olympic football team, the Werewolves of London

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

that would provoke a great hairstyle from beckham I'm sure

long duk dan (dan m), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

"We are like Arsenal. We've got good players, we always say we're going to win. And we miss out." - Ivory Coast won't win the African Cup of Nations 2012

Ismael Klata, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

Would suggest something tasteless about Togo parking the bus but won't.

James Mitchell, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

the pundit's reserve league: acn 2012

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

wld be more appropriate if togo were in it

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

gotta embrace the rich culture of African football stereotypes somehow.

Nigeria would be here but the grandkids are visiting: ACN 2012.

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Friday, 20 January 2012 18:14 (thirteen years ago)

Natural ability, defensive naïvety and smiles on their faces: it's Euro 2012

Ismael Klata, Friday, 20 January 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

idgi grandkids

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

nigerian players are thought to be a lot older than their passport suggests and the joke suggests they are so old they have grandkids.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

ah ok i thought it was a 'grandfather rule' joke

That's actually really racist btw

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

when i saw the david de gea eye surgery story i was going to say "fucking black cunt", but couldn't decide if that would be racist or not. probably yes.

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Friday, 20 January 2012 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

Fancy Chelsea to win comfortably today, shame Romeu isn't playing though.

pandemic, Saturday, 21 January 2012 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

Morison and Holt are a proper old school strike partnership

Number None, Saturday, 21 January 2012 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

torres so tentative when latching onto that thru-ball

pandemic, Saturday, 21 January 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

like shearer/sutton with less talent
xp

pandemic, Saturday, 21 January 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe the weirdest thing about Torres is either around 1 or 2, or 8 or 9, on the Klata Scale, and almost never in between:

0 takes it early, rolls pitifully wide
1 poor touch, goalie gathers
2 dallies, defender gets back to make tackle
3 shoots low, like an idiot, into the goalkeeper's legs
4 blazes wide
5 good save by keeper, raises eyes heavenwards
6 as for 3, but somehow goes through goalie's legs
7 places beyond keeper's dive
8 little dink
9 takes it round the keeper, strokes home
10 round the keeper, blasts home from a yard, roars through the net
11 round the keeper, screws wide from unnecessarily tight angle, massive grin

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

good from nando there. close.

pandemic, Saturday, 21 January 2012 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

that was unlucky

Number None, Saturday, 21 January 2012 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

Lukaku hasn't gone out on loan has he? Can't be good for his development to be stuck in the reserves.
lampard fails to get me any fantasy points as he limps off. malouda on which i find a bit surprising, did essien not make the bench today?

pandemic, Saturday, 21 January 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

oh i see that both essien and lukaku are on the bench

pandemic, Saturday, 21 January 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

but not gary cahill

mizzell, Saturday, 21 January 2012 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

are the norwich dug outs too small to house the requisite number of subs/medical staff/coaches? Lampard sat off to the side on a yellow office chair.

pandemic, Saturday, 21 January 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

symbolic

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

no fouls in the first half apparently #they'vetacklingouttathegame

pandemic, Saturday, 21 January 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

taken tackling out of the game I meant

pandemic, Saturday, 21 January 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

that was dire from torres. should have hit it first time.

pandemic, Saturday, 21 January 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

Crikey, this is Torres' worst run in England? I thought he was on the mend?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

Have kinda moved from wanting him to do well to fascinated to how long he can go without scoring

pandemic, Saturday, 21 January 2012 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

Lukaku was a beast there. His physique is aesthetically hideous, but you can see how it could be useful.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

RobertBodsworth on Twitter: "Can't stand people having a go at Torres, he's a gentleman of football and a class act on the pitch."

lololol

Another Wein bites the dust (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 21 January 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

loooooool

i used to be friends with a guy by that name at school. moved to northampton when we were about 12. don't think it would be the same dude, as the Bodsworth I knew would rip on people without a moments warning.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 21 January 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

Always glad to see Chelsea drop points. We are def. going to need other teams to be crappier than us, rather than us being better than other.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 21 January 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

Ugh otm. Arsenal dropped so many stupid points already this season. Some things never change

Another Wein bites the dust (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 21 January 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

The decent thing to do would be to decline the fourth CL slot altogether

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

So Arsenal won't win the Europa League '12-'13? I'll pass.

Another Wein bites the dust (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 21 January 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

Still rather see them not winning the CL

Another Wein bites the dust (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 21 January 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

Reading that Willian is close to a Chelsea move - have always liked him for Shakhtar in CL matches. Would be a natural Malouda replacement I guess, & let Mata play through the center?

boxall, Saturday, 21 January 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

Again, a more technical replacement for a Jose signing? They really are trying to build the team around Torres and the Spanish, which is lol.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 21 January 2012 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

sweet sweet strike by sessegnon

mizzell, Saturday, 21 January 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

Again, a more technical replacement for a Jose signing? They really are trying to build the team around Torres and the Spanish, which is lol.

In fairness it's only lol because Torres is the top of it. There's the makings of an excellent Spanish-style midfield in there somewhere.

Matt DC, Saturday, 21 January 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

hey Tim Cahill scored finally

boxall, Saturday, 21 January 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

Off a Fellaini handball.

oppet, Saturday, 21 January 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, was farcical. PRob looked as much like a beached whale defending it as any GK I've seen too.

boxall, Saturday, 21 January 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

Again, a more technical replacement for a Jose signing? They really are trying to build the team around Torres and the Spanish, which is lol.

In fairness it's only lol because Torres is the top of it. There's the makings of an excellent Spanish-style midfield in there somewhere.

― Matt DC, Saturday, 21 January 2012 15:22 (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm but it is still a sizeable joke

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 21 January 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

Lovely strike by Guthrie, 1-0 Newcastle. Some wild wind at the Cottage today, a couple of passes have veered off course then crazily lashed into the stands.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

Bob Keane with a smart finish; not sure why I didn't put money on that

MPx4A, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

filthy foreigner Andrej Johnson waving an imaginary card after Santon hauled him down as last man just before half time; conduct not remarked on by the commentary

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

1-1 after Santon fouled Duff, probably just outside the box but you can't really complain imo

2-1 Fulham while I was off getting a drink, pah

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

3-1, Deuce, unchallenged run through the middle (actually quite well worked, long punt notwithstanding)

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

Another penalty to Fulham!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

4-1, Bobby Z

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

Newcastle were winning this about fifteen minutes ago

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

Is 'Deuce' catching on in Britain? Thought it was just an American fan nickname tbh.

boxall, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

4.07-4.25pm according to the oft-tardy BBC text thingy

lol

Touched By Angel Rangel (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

I've only heard Deuce on here tbf. Some kind of graffiti tag aiui?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

it's his mc handle

mizzell, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

That career's not much further along than Babel's or Drenthe's, as far as I know.

boxall, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

don't tread

long duk dan (dan m), Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

everton just totally flubbed one and blackburn tied it

long duk dan (dan m), Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

Blackburn have leveled in a very shambolic fashion btw xp.

boxall, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

Pacifism's Karl Henry off for a casual backheel on the chest of a prone 70s Winger Marc Albrighton

MPx4A, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

Dagenham and Redbridge's Ogogo just got an OG.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

deuce's career has a lot of promise, imo, cause he could use the word Nacogdoches a lot. and that is a cool word.

mizzell, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

Bob Keane with a thunderbolt in off the bar

MPx4A, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

dayung

MPx4A, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

4-2 just now; Newcastle also had an offside goal a few mins ago that I at least thought should've been given as the ball through seemed to be from a defender's leg.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

damn you Ben Arthur

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

Deuce hattrick, 5-2

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

Woop!

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

thrice in one game is more than ample

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

Bob Keane 1.5 inches away from a hat trick from 25 yards

MPx4A, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

I guess Newcastle can manage without one Taylor in their backline but not both?

boxall, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

Are there more misses penalties this season then usual? Or do they just stick out more?

Another Wein bites the dust (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

8 minutes stoppage time at Molineux on account of Frimpong having got stretchered off after getting kicked in the head

MPx4A, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

The penalty conversion rate is far, far lower than usual this year yeah, not sure if optajoe has spat out the latest numbers yet

MPx4A, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

Wolves still have time to win 4-3 and maybe fire in a few more set piece goals for laffs after that

MPx4A, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

two cracking goals from sunderland today

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

Deuce is wild

Another Wein bites the dust (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 21 January 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

Oft-tardy Liverpool fan on the oft-tardy BBC blog:

From Wnek, Liverpool fan, via text: "I am really starting to worry that Liverpool might be slowly fading away into mediocrity. These games are some of the most important in the club's history."

James Mitchell, Saturday, 21 January 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

Oh ffs - I thought this one at least would be winnable.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

Bolton will collapse. No need to fret.

encarta it (Gukbe), Saturday, 21 January 2012 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

Trolololton!

Another Wein bites the dust (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 21 January 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

1752: More Emmanuel Frimpong news now, and it isn't good. According to BBC WM, Wolves' on-loan midfielder has fractured a cheekbone and will be out for three months.

Another Wein bites the dust (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 21 January 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

Kenny out.

Stevie T, Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

From Jim, a disgruntled Liverpool fan, via text: "£100m+ spent and no improvement in results. Time to get Rafa Benitez back."

Another Wein bites the dust (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool *have* faded into mediocrity but these are not even remotely the most important games in the club's history.

Cuthbert, Dibble & Grubb (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

even Reo-Coker scored

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

Rafa back is going to happen at some point

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

Only got 9/2 on a Liverpool won from 0-2, such is the betting public's faith in Bolton being shite.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:16 (thirteen years ago)

Makes sense, except I can barely imagine this year's Liverpool coming back or scoring thrice. Good start though.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:21 (thirteen years ago)

it was too good to carry on like that

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

Great finish though.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

Can't see Liverpool winning this, Onimo

Cuthbert, Dibble & Grubb (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

you can't get irate about a corner maybe swinging out of play - I'll not be happy if that's the excuse offered up

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

Lower penalty conversion may be down to better goalkeeping overall, I think.

Matt DC, Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, that was in your eyes Craig Bellamy.

Sugary pee is not normal (aldo), Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

awes weekend chaps wot

waning white energy (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

"Andy Carroll - 34 touches. Fewest by a Liverpool starter."

Now is there any need for that stat, I ask you?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:04 (thirteen years ago)

indictment of the midfield if we're being serious

when does dalglish start getting the hit for any of this? he's still coasting afaict.

waning white energy (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

Since their £85 million switch a year ago, how many goals have Carroll and Torres for their new clubs?

Cuthbert, Dibble & Grubb (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

rafa >>>> dalglish

― diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, August 27, 2011 7:04 PM (4 months ago)

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

I think it's starting - but he's basically unsackable, so

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

rafa had his shot, results are in, if we were to objectively look at an lfc manager of the past decade that has unfinished business at this club, we'd have to enter negotiations with the baggies

waning white energy (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

I think it's Carroll 4, Torres 6 from memory (all competitions)

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

feel like there's a line here somewhere about all the rubbish on the pitch

waning white energy (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

The Guardian, Tuesday 2 August 2011

The Liverpool owner, John W Henry, has warned Kenny Dalglish and Liverpool that failure to qualify for the Champions League next season would be a "major disappointment" for the club.

"It's too early for us to talk about winning the league," said Henry according to reports on Monday. "[But] our main goal is to qualify for the Champions League. If we don't, it would be a major disappointment."

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

torres 12.5m per, carroll (torres/6 -2.5m) per

waning white energy (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

omg plz bring back rafa, the lols would never end (also everton would officially become the best team on the merseyside)

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

dalglish is on dis appointment

waning white energy (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

There are shades of last year at Blackburn about this. Need a botched Gerrard penalty to confirm.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

Title - The Role of the Tutor in Delivering a Module via ‘E’ Learning
Institution - University of Brighton
Activity - This case explains the role of the tutor engaged with ‘e’ learning.
Aim - To understand the role of the tutor in delivering a module via ‘e’
learning.

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

too busy delivering the mob rule amirite

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/HYbhb.jpg

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

I am in the pub and a stranger opposite me is really very aggressive when it comes to reviewing the Liverpool career of Jordan Henderson.

oppet, Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

xp haaa

Jol looks so much healthier than he did when with Ajax, too. Bless him.

Another Wein bites the dust (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

where's that far side where the dog in the shipwrecked boat crew hasn't pulled the short straw?

waning white energy (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

jesus who stole the rte desk giles looks tiny, not unlike a bleached yoda

waning white energy (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 January 2012 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

I am in the pub and a stranger opposite me is really very aggressive when it comes to reviewing the Liverpool career of Jordan Henderson

He's done alright and he might get better - but lord, for that amount of money and for Liverpool, he was not what was needed. Ditto Adam, at least he was cheaper and has been decent in spells. Downing, I'd've thought he'd've been better tbh, he looks an inexplicable signing but he was decent before.

The whole summer window - getting in those three, Coates who doesn't play, even Enrique looked awful today. And shipping Meireles out, getting shot of Cole, shifting Aquilani elsewhere. Hopeless.

We're disastrously short of creative players, it's awful.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

dalglish wants one creative player on the pitch at any one time, it's like ultra-consolidation out there.

Downing is a real puzzle, i'll stan for that guy as an end product winger all day but no denying it's not happening for him.

Adams and Henderson just too stodgy when kuyt, lucas, gerrard et al are the other starters. That team today was basically a 150m bowl of porridge

waning white energy (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 January 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

Otm for once. I don't get it; it's the forcing out of Meireles that's the thing. He was great in Dalglish's golden run, and we looked terrific when flexible. But this season has been a continual rowing back from that.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

hennessy's footwork is frequently reminiscent of paul robinson's mid-decade work

Lol henry, that keane lad looks decent

waning white energy (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 January 2012 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

oy 'for once'

Meirelles was promised pay parity if he performed, lfc welshed, he left, dunno how much of it can be put down to dalglish but you assume at least some

waning white energy (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 January 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

Downing needs the team to be built around him having enough space to be good at crossing and enough space for Carroll to do something with it once he's crossed it into the box.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 21 January 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

The whole set-up is obviously wrong for Carroll; I don't see how that's so for Downing though.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

i don't see how they don't need the same setup tbh

waning white energy (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 January 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

don't think there as far off as some recent performances suggest. obvious thing is a striker. more creativity in midfield has been a prob for years..but even one genuinely great attacking midfielder, either on the wing or through the middle, would make a massive difference.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 21 January 2012 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

jesus, they're. when i get into ilx relaxed mode it's like my brain goes wild with basic text errors.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 21 January 2012 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

qpr wigan had some great goals

waning white energy (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 January 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

Crikey:

Kenny Dalglish tore into his under-performing Liverpool players after a lacklustre defeat at Bolton Wanderers, accusing them of thinking they only had to turn up to win and disrespecting both their opponents and the traditions of their own club.

"The most disappointing thing for me was that I don't think the approach was correct," the Liverpool manager said after Bolton's surprisingly comprehensive 3-1 win. "The foundations of this club have always been based on respect for other people. You can't come to places like this thinking all you need to do is turn up to get a result. That's what I think we did today, and that's why we were taught a lesson. It's not the right way to represent the club. I don't think we were even ready to play the game. That's probably why we lost a goal after four minutes. I don't think the way we went about our work was correct."

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 January 2012 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

Think Kenny should take a lot of the blame for thinking Gerrard-Adam is a centre midfield partnership in 2012. The week after playing five at the back vs Stoke at Anfield.

Stevie T, Saturday, 21 January 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

The week after playing five at the back vs Stoke at Anfield.

― Stevie T, Saturday, 21 January 2012 21:42 (49 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

LOL WUT

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 21 January 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

oh come on stevie, suuure on paper you might have seen a five man backline but the way they lined up was actually an eight man centre midfield

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 00:04 (thirteen years ago)

when are the scouse going to wake up and realise king kenny is shite?

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 22 January 2012 00:26 (thirteen years ago)

hopefully not soon. because for a neutral i get inordinate pleasure in watching liverpool get done. almost as good as seeing arsenal beaten.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 22 January 2012 00:38 (thirteen years ago)

Loads of great goals tonight with hardly a big club in sight.

Custom table since weekend of 10/11th December shows Sunderland in second. Mad Martin can do no wrong so far, especially when you look at the shite they played under Bruce.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Sunday, 22 January 2012 01:32 (thirteen years ago)

The weekend will only be saved by City and Arsenal winning today. At a push I'll accept only a Man City victory.

So glad the LFC game was on too late for me to watch.

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea to act over alleged racist chants after Norwich match

Another Wein bites the dust (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 22 January 2012 11:47 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool looked awful yesterday but their defence, which is very good generally, had an off-day. I get the feeling they miss Lucas badly, a team like Bolton should not be able to run through yr midfield like that.

For all the talk about Suarez he hasn't actually scored that many goals this season, but he's clearly their best creative spark by miles. Adam should really be playing better than he is as well.

Generally, they look like a badly-balanced, ill-assembled Damien Comolli squad. Plus ca change.

Meanwhile Fulham are playing like a proper Martin Jol team, alternately heroic and calamitous. <3

Matt DC, Sunday, 22 January 2012 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

Mad psyched about today anyway. I was more confident before I'd remembered that Adebayor can't actually play today. Redknapp should really have given Defoe a run the team prior to this game, but he's manifestly unsuited to playing a lone striker. We need Bale through the middle at his best I reckon.

I should get on and get to the pub really.

Matt DC, Sunday, 22 January 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

That Chelsea story isn't surprising is it, isn't it Chelsea that hisses at Spurs games?

gyac, Sunday, 22 January 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

a less hungover guy than me might be calling for mick mccarthy's sacking today

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 January 2012 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

spose it cd be worse, cd be a liverpool fan

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 January 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

Worst-case scenario today is Spurs beat City and get cocky, thereby derailing both their challenges, while Utd beat Arsenal and kick on from there. So I guess an Arsenal win is what I'm after.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 January 2012 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

The weekend will only be saved by City and Arsenal winning today

This is wrong on quite literally *several* levels. This is a great weekend which can only be marred by City and Arsenal winning today.

Worst-case scenario today is Spurs beat City and get cocky, thereby derailing both their challenges, while Utd beat Arsenal and kick on from there

No, no, no - what's wrong with you people?

Cuthbert, Dibble & Grubb (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

don't know why people can't warm to united and their delightfully self-deprecating manager tbh :)

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 January 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

That's the spirit

Cuthbert, Dibble & Grubb (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

Amazing from Clichy there

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 January 2012 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

Worst corner ever

Cuthbert, Dibble & Grubb (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

defoe on his own is ridic tbh, psv all day

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

gotta go with defoe for his goal scoring record this year and work rate, up to the players to stop expecting him to win headers. bae having one of his poor crossing days.

mizzell, Sunday, 22 January 2012 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

is this Hartson or Coleman thinking that David Silva is called da Silva?

MPx4A, Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

richards running a sav

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2012/01/15/revealed-the-letter-that-exposes-the-history-of-blackburn-rovers-crisis-150102/

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

the savic defectives

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

what a pass. What a run.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

That was a bit good

Woucher! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

The weight on the pass and the perfect lead Silva gave Nasri was spectacular.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

That one was just ugly.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs had just started to look dangerous and then this happened

Woucher! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

clinical finish from lescott

mizzell, Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

lescott scoring by dragging the ball over the line with his arse, nice one.

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

What an embarrassing way to score a goal ...

boxall, Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

and boom.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

YES! Come on Spurs

Woucher! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

I can imagine an alternate reality in which B. Ivanovic is capocannoniere.

boxall, Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

golazzo

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

fuck!

mizzell, Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

Great finish.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

finally some FF points

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

Woo! Best league in the world

Woucher! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

This game is getting goofy after a tentative and a dull first half. Not sure if that makes it better or not, but it's definitely goofy.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck, I've picked the wrong 20 minutes to pop out, haven't I?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

Can somebody tell Coleman that Lescott's first name is *not* Julian?

Woucher! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

odds on balotelli getting subbed?

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

Coleman is bloody awful

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

Could easily have been sent off then if the ref had seen it. Same goes for Julian earlier.

Woucher! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

Ooh, that might've been a stamp right enough

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

he was pretty off balance, hard to see as intentional, imo

mizzell, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

oh

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

That miss was Torres-esque

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

Not really, he was at full stretch

Woucher! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

Gazzaesque

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

oh man

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

He should have been able to bungle that in like Lescott did.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

oh ledleypaws

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

No doubt about it.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

That's cruel

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

that was cold and unfair to the way Spurs played.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

good fucking god aaaarghh

Summer Slam! (Ste), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

don't think he shoulda been on the pitch

MPx4A, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

That was harsh

Woucher! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

it's a hilarious old game

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

don't think Defoe can really take stick for not being able to get near enough to the cross to change the path of the ball, commentators seem to always kinda overhype close-range misses as if they should never happen even though they're inevitable

MPx4A, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

part one done, now come on arsenal

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

Gutted.

Matt DC, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

i hope defoe sticks with his fledgling goatee and develops the walter white look that's just begging to be unleashed.

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

don't think Defoe can really take stick for not being able to get near enough to the cross to change the path of the ball, commentators seem to always kinda overhype close-range misses as if they should never happen even though they're inevitable

― MPx4A, Sunday, January 22, 2012 3:26 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

there's probably a case to be made for his positioning being less pinpoint than it should've been but that'll always be drowned out by LOL HE MISSED FROM A YARD LOLOL

Arse-Manu really really needs to be a draw now

Touched By Angel Rangel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

8-3 agg win for City then. United 0-1 defeat this afternoon?

Michael Jones, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

welp, utd/arsenal definitely gets the full fox tv treatment, just like watching nfl with all the graphics and sound effects bullshit

long duk dan (dan m), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

worryingly typically spurslike but no blame on defoe, if anything the cross was a poor effort from the position.

But tbrr we didn't deserve the win nor the loss there.

Terrible from king btw, really terrible position, initial move towards ball and miss, terrible decision to tackle. We'll allow him that after a near-flawless year or two

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

http://i41.tinypic.com/1417a86.jpg

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

Balotelli shouldn't have been on the pitch, he knew exactly what he was doing. Dodgy Lescott elbow earlier as well.

Matt DC, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

word for ref today, thought he was excellent, tho i only had half an eye on it due to lunch with inlaws

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

huh missed balotelli incident- lescott was a big hit but his eye was elsewhere imo

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

Piers Morgan in as a pundit.

encarta it (Gukbe), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

That's Mario out for five or six games then right? Why always him?

Another Wein bites the dust (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

webb saw it i thought and let it go so don't see how they can ban him

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

I'd be amazed if anything came of it, there normally needs to be a proepr shitstorm before the FA admit a ref is wrong (fwiw that looks like total intent to me but I don't think Webb is especially culpable for missing that)

Touched By Angel Rangel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

don't think Defoe can really take stick for not being able to get near enough to the cross to change the path of the ball, commentators seem to always kinda overhype close-range misses as if they should never happen even though they're inevitable

― MPx4A, Sunday, January 22, 2012 3:26 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

there's probably a case to be made for his positioning being less pinpoint than it should've been but that'll always be drowned out by LOL HE MISSED FROM A YARD LOLOL

Arse-Manu really really needs to be a draw now

― Touched By Angel Rangel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:33 (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah, think most of the work was done by Richards doing well to keep up with Bale and restrict the angle of the cross

That said though, you've got to score from there, you've got to, I mean you've literally got a moral imperative to stick that one away Jermain, you've got to, the money you earn, I mean

MPx4A, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

" huh missed balotelli incident"

Then you can't comment on the ref. He was looking right at him. Even Graham Souness thought it was a foul.

Matt DC, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

don't think Webb had that much else liable to put him in the spotlight - peno was a no brainer, imo Clichy should've been booked for taking out Lennon before he was actually booked but if he had been he probably wouldn't have handled the ball so... yeah

Touched By Angel Rangel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 22 January 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

Think Balotelli will get banned for that, tbh. It would only have been a problem if the ref had given something other than a red (i.e. yellow or just free kick), but he didn't give anything.

Woucher! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

if he's seen the incident and taken no action i don't think the FA are supposed to intervene. obviously nobody will lie about this in the wake of a media furore.

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 January 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

Jones crocked. The injury nightmare continues. Maybe we'll get David May back next.

Re: the super mario stamp - but who can say that the ref saw it?

Woucher! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

they have the power to I think but rarely exercise it - iirc Ben Thatcher got booked for decapitating someone w/ his elbow, then got banned for 8 or 9 games after it blew up

Touched By Angel Rangel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 22 January 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

walcott the worst player on the pitch so far by a fairly wide margin, which considering mertesacker and evans are playing is quite something.

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

good save

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

United have been completely dominant and yet have scarcely had a shot

Woucher! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

man u this week, swansea last week, arsenal need to bring in some players who can keep the ball, they're being dominated every week.

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

valencia looking good last few weeks now that he's not playing rb.

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

rooney's shoulder makes his knees collapse, that's some fuckin tic is that

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

deserved

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

what a cross, what a shitty atmosphere, what an awful player djourou is

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

vermaelen ball watching

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

totally insipid performance from arsenal, man u walking it.

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

Can't believe how poor Arsenal have been

Woucher! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

srsly?

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

who's this yennaris guy?

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

taxi for djourou

Could you stand behind a manager that considers the guy first team at a top four team? Think not.

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

tbf third choice right back isn't really 'first team'.

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

Depends what you mean by "stand behind"

Woucher! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

tbf Arsenal aren't really a top four team

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

Ho ho ho!

Woucher! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

how many games has he played the past two years?

I think, tbf, that in a team with arsenal's injuries the definition of 'first team' has to be 'the guy that's playing', not 'the guy we'd play were he fit'

Same with king at spurs, really- ignoring the reality of the teamsheet for two years and hiding behind the

Oh shit rvp

squad list

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

rvp's gonna score 1 goal in 2012. (unless i'm misremembering and he's scored more than that already).

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

tbf 'top four' is their stated aim- no, tbf, they still pretend to be a team with title aspirations- so if the manager won't deliver that calibre of player then there's something needs changing there

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

rosicky must have RVP in his FF

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

yeah rosicky needed to drive on there

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

This is some Piers Morgan-caliber insight you're offering, xps.

boxall, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

What the fuck was that from Valencia?

Woucher! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

from the angle of his body it looked like he was aiming at the corner flag.

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

pfft argue me then boxall there's no point your emulating the on-pitch lack of fight i'm putting myself through

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

it's manu's turn to be shit this half apparently.

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

cor, the ox looks good

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah it's piss-poor but it's nothing new either. Though Piers Morgan providing studio commentary is a new low.

boxall, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

right

Is the gk tripping wellbeck there not a foul?

If not, why not?

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

it was a foul but refs tend not to give decisions like that if they deem the foul to have no effect on the ensuing action i think.

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

which isn't in the rules

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

i can see that i guess

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

i am in desperate need of some fantasy football pts this wknd i think.
so get to it white pele.

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

great goal from start to finish!

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

niiiice

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

oh yes!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

fantastic

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

ox is fucking legit

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

They were right on the margin all through that.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

Rats!

Woucher! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

when did koscelney become beckenbauer?

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

oxlade-chamberlain maybe the man to change that feeling that no arsenal break will ever result in anything.

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

nice of RVP to dedicate his goal to SOPA

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

subbed off??

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

oh ffs wenger out out out

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

crowd not happy

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

weird decision

get walcott to fuck

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

hb grandpa van inj

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

RVP otm

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

incisive football? get him off!

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

Can't watch the game. Why is Mertesacker trending on twitter? What happened? I am confused.

Another Wein bites the dust (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

BBC slower than slow on their updates tbh

Another Wein bites the dust (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

does anyone believe nani isn't walking normally now

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

Mertesacker made a decent clearance off the line, that's about it.

boxall, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

er he cleared one off the line after attempting and failing to foul welbeck?
xp to lbi

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

That's something to make him trending worldwide I suppose

*shrugs*

Another Wein bites the dust (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

I haven't read todays thread yet, and I have only seen the first half of todays game but

Theo's form at the moment makes it seem illogical that I have ever seen him be decent at football. I know I have, in fact I have seen him do things of true beauty (the run v. Liverpool for example) and yet I doubt that those things ever happened. The run v. Liverpool actually happened, right? The hatrick for England? That period earlier this season where he seemed half-competent on the ball and seemed to have learnt how to cross?

In the first half today, he looked so bad that Conference players would shake their heads at him. The only thing he did well was see Phil Jones have some sort of problem near him and run passed his dying corpse.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

feo dead?

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

looks like a concussion, maybe

boxall, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

rip

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

footballing brain haemorrhage

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

Arshavin was pathetic defending that, nicely worked move tho

boxall, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

football teams don't have the same protocols with regard to concussion as the nfl for some reason.

nice goal.

arshavin lol

pandemic, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

arshavin was, but tbrr when a right midfielder waltzes in to the heart of your box it's weak sauce to throw it all on a winger

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

Sralex is really shite at enjoying his team's goals eh.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

I SAW SOMETHING SOMETHING PARK PLAY FOR ARSENAL!!!!!

22/01/2012

James Mitchell, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

I can't believe that when we start getting some momentum and set up chances and actually look like scoring and possibly going on to win, Wenger subs off one of our best performers and we concede a goal about 5 minutes later via the sub.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

I can't believe you can't believe that

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

mertesacker too tall to bother jumping wtf

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

Glad I spared myself that tbh.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

arshavin can go get fucked

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

Two-horse race now?

Woucher! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

one

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

Was Rooney crocked at the end?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 January 2012 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

Yup

Woucher! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 January 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

wenger out

i expected 0 points but fucking hell man, wenger out

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 22 January 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

think mccarthy is more deserving of a job atm

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 22 January 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

job swap

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

Really gutless from Arsenal but terrible terrible defending from both teams.

Surprised there wasn't more lolling at the Valencia miss, especially Fergie nearly spitting his chewing gum out in reaction.

Matt DC, Sunday, 22 January 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

my dad mooted Wenger as a replacement for McCarthy but i pointed out to him our main priority is getting the defence sorted

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 January 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

Gorblimey, is 'Arry abaht to go dahn?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 23 January 2012 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

is there a hashtag to follow the trial?

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 23 January 2012 11:26 (thirteen years ago)

#hmrcare'avinarealgo

James Mitchell, Monday, 23 January 2012 11:33 (thirteen years ago)

#buyingplayersoutasuitcasedahnabackstreetcorblimey

waning white energy (darraghmac), Monday, 23 January 2012 12:22 (thirteen years ago)

the most successful English manager in the modern game, having led Portsmouth to FA Cup success and Spurs to last season's Uefa Champions League quarter-finals.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Monday, 23 January 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i was gonna lol-quote that bit

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 January 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

maybe bring it up in the context of "England shd have an English manager" debates

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 January 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

General consensus in pub last night was hefty fine + slap on hand for 'Arry. And no chance of the England job.

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 23 January 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

Presumably Wilkinson's Leeds weren't part of the modern game. Or Shteve's Twente.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Monday, 23 January 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

As in the FA won't ask him... but then Venables 'ad it away on his toes, ditn't he? (xp)

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 23 January 2012 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

i think any kind of conviction wd have ruled Arry out of the England job 10 years ago. nowadays, i'm not 100 percent certain.

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 January 2012 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

Desperate times etc

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 23 January 2012 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

irrelevant fines

waning white energy (darraghmac), Monday, 23 January 2012 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

PAAAAAAAV

waning white energy (darraghmac), Monday, 23 January 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

When John Henry and Tom Werner were informed about Liverpool FC’s interest in Stewart Downing last summer they turned to the internet to find out more.

The Reds’ principal owner and chairman stumbled across a video on YouTube which grabbed their attention.

“There was some footage of Stewart where he is, from 30 yards away, kicking a football into five different trash cans and it’s brilliant,” Werner recalled.

“John and I said: ‘Oh my god, this player is brilliant, we’ve got to figure out a way to make a deal with him’.”

The American duo later discovered the footage had been doctored but the excitement at Downing’s arrival remained.

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/sport/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2012/01/21/stewart-downing-will-be-a-star-for-liverpool-fc-says-kenny-dalglish-100252-30167724/

James Mitchell, Monday, 23 January 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

jesus

mizzell, Monday, 23 January 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

worst part may be how clever Werner must have thought he was by using the word brilliant

mizzell, Monday, 23 January 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

LOL Yanks

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 23 January 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCuS7OyLRCs

long duk dan (dan m), Monday, 23 January 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

bring back hicks and gillett

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 23 January 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

"Monaco account not in Redknapp's name. Was called "Rosie 47". Prosecution say this was combination of his dog's name and his year of birth"

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 23 January 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

That's an unusually old dog.

Tim, Monday, 23 January 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

lol Spurs, that was your chance to get shot of Bentley

Ismael Klata, Monday, 23 January 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

spent far too long trying to construct a Bentley joek when I saw that earlier

Touched By Angel Rangel (DJ Mencap), Monday, 23 January 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdO733POGDY

Bentley? Bollocks

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 January 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

We did try to tell about that guy, but would you listen?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 23 January 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

worst part may be how clever Werner must have thought he was by using the word brilliant

IME it is common practice for limey hacks to randomly substitute britishisms into "direct" quotations from americans

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 January 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

then why didn't they change trash cans to rubbish bins?

mizzell, Monday, 23 January 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

i thought carlos cuellar would have been inside that bus to handball the shot off the bus

Alan Shearer (ken c), Monday, 23 January 2012 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

player ay the year, now he's a cheating bus steward

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Monday, 23 January 2012 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

actual lols at that video. <3 u Japan

Ismael Klata, Monday, 23 January 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

how do you guys rate leon britton?

On 17 January 2012, it was revealed Britton had the highest pass completion rate in world football to that point in the 2011/12 season (93.3% accuracy); better than Spain's Xavi (93.0%). However, it should be noted Britton attempted 703 fewer passes than the Barcelona player, and played two more games. Britton is the only creative player in Premier League history to register a perfect game with a 100% pass success rate.

mizzell, Monday, 23 January 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

At least one ILF irregular with a not-at-all distinctive posting style is a fan: ILF Heroes: Leon Britton, the Swansea Silkworm

boxall, Monday, 23 January 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

http://h11.abload.de/img/kkkultv1k20.gif

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Monday, 23 January 2012 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

omg

long duk dan (dan m), Monday, 23 January 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

xp That thread makes him sound ultra-conservative in his use of the ball but within the context of the English game, I think Britton's fun to watch for the way he'll dribble into tighter and tighter pockets of space, including backward toward his own goal if necessary, until he can find an outlet to the flanks. Great close control, never 'gets rid'. Not a creator or anything though.

boxall, Monday, 23 January 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

It isn't funny because it's true xp

Ismael Klata, Monday, 23 January 2012 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

Aw, what - Balotelli charged, faces four-match ban. My ff team can't take this nonsense.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 23 January 2012 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/23/article-2090519-116B6080000005DC-498_634x455.jpg

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 23 January 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

elvis costello has really let himself go

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 23 January 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

fuck off

waning white energy (darraghmac), Monday, 23 January 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

clearly bill nighy

waning white energy (darraghmac), Monday, 23 January 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

Watching the Balotelli stamp over and over just now - I'm really not sure about it tbh. Sometimes it looks awful, sometimes a clumsy accident.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 23 January 2012 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

it's pretty clearly on purpose. he didn't know he was going to hit his head tho, which is about the most charitable thing you can say for it.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Monday, 23 January 2012 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

i was convinced by g neville that it was a pretty unnatural motion for someone off balance.

mizzell, Monday, 23 January 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

lololol Liverpool supposedly are going to bid on Texeira, Urugayan striker from FC Groningen. He's horrible lol.

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 23 January 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

you sure you don't mean this, v. v. promising player http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Teixeira

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 23 January 2012 23:37 (thirteen years ago)

No, lol, I/Liverpool mean David Texeira. Confirmed by Grobbelaar, Liverpool flew to Holland today to arrange the deal supposedly. Lawllll, it's like Man United signing Heskey now.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/David_Texeira.jpg

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 23 January 2012 23:42 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool legend Bruce Grobbelaar has told talkSPORT he believes the club are on the verge of signing a new striker.

With Luis Suarez banned until mid-February, Andy Carroll out-of-form and Dirk Kuyt without a goal since May, the Reds have struggled to score, culminating in a 0-0 draw with Stoke.

But the goalkeeper, who won a European cup and six league titles with the club, understands a new forward will be arriving at Anfield shortly.

“There are two strikers [Liverpool are interested in],” said Grobbelaar. “I know that [Kenny Dalglish] is looking at a South American striker who is playing in Holland and I know that he’s quite close in getting another striker.

“I’m not going to be the one to actually tell you who, but I’m sure that the striker will be arriving soon.”

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 23 January 2012 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

2011–2012 Groningen 21 (17)

I'm willing to believe you can score in the Eredivisie w/o being a future world-beater but this looks decent to me?

boxall, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 00:23 (thirteen years ago)

oh n/m, looks like his Wikipedia page has been edited 30 times in the last day, prob due to the Liverpool link. lol at LFC fans trying to heighten expectations, though.

boxall, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 00:27 (thirteen years ago)

more likely to be everton fans, come on.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 00:32 (thirteen years ago)

do we have a rolling tactics thread?

http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/serieaaaaargh/archive/2012/01/23/three-once-again-the-magic-number-for-serie-a-defences.aspx

also lol at the url

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 00:33 (thirteen years ago)

we sure do

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 01:37 (thirteen years ago)

^433rd new answer, will be replaced soon by 442 and, in time, 451 ~makes u think~

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 01:44 (thirteen years ago)

why arent lfc trying v hard to sign a pacy winger and otoh sell a stodgy midfielder (or two)

why aren't spurs trimming dos santos (ok this may be imminent tbf) pienaar, kranjcar?

where's the common sense these days?

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 01:47 (thirteen years ago)

how many wite british pacy wingers are there who liv could buy

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 01:51 (thirteen years ago)

jarvis?

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 01:51 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool being heavily linked with usa youngster juan agudelo too, at least over here

long duk dan (dan m), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 01:52 (thirteen years ago)

kightly?

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 01:53 (thirteen years ago)

stumblr whites

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 01:53 (thirteen years ago)

no messin, kightly the last day even looked a player could do more for lfc than eg adam or yon lad from sundlund

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 01:54 (thirteen years ago)

xp!

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 01:54 (thirteen years ago)

i lolled at the thought of mcgeady there, but fuckit the guy stretches the opposition defence at least, would be something difft?

I didn't see the much-maligned setup vs stoke, was it a back three with enrique/johnson flanking? Might be worth a run, that.

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 01:56 (thirteen years ago)

aiden is having a fun time at spartak tho

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 01:59 (thirteen years ago)

xp. yep. baffled by it, but the back 3 wasn't really the problem tbh, we were just clueless in attack (although could've taken one of them off in the 2nd half when it was clear we were fucked).

Chris, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 02:24 (thirteen years ago)

xposts. i believe juan agudelo was just training with the squad. don't think a transfer is on the cards.

Chris, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 02:25 (thirteen years ago)

no, i can see a back three and wingbacks suiting the personnel available alright, but it won't come together in only one or two matches.

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 02:28 (thirteen years ago)

Kights is starting to look like a proper Prem winger altho it's hard to tell whether anybody in Wolves can play while nobhead is in charge. really quite surprised McCarthy's still in a job tonight, this "stand by your manager no matter how shit" trend is painful tbh

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 02:41 (thirteen years ago)

never mind that get yr arse to the bullying thread

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 02:43 (thirteen years ago)

spurs have been linked with some scottish chap named forrest who i gather is a pacy winger.

mizzell, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 03:52 (thirteen years ago)

a right sided one i hope?

That should allow us to clear out pienaar at least

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 03:54 (thirteen years ago)

Plays best on the right. Scored 8 goals this season. Cracking wee player but at 19 is just a prospect thus far. Should not go to a big prem team if he wants to develope imo. Looks about 12.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 03:57 (thirteen years ago)

he'd def only be cover, but then lennon misses a fair few games too and harry's not afraid of youth

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 03:59 (thirteen years ago)

McGeady might be worth a gamble for ten million but Spartak value him at about three time that amount. Might have provided better value than the 20m-plus players they did buy, though.

Does anyone know when the Redknapp trial is expected to finish?

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 08:48 (thirteen years ago)

right after 'guilty'

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 09:09 (thirteen years ago)

It's down for two weeks, so next Friday. It's not uncommon for things to wrap up quite rapidly after the meat of it has been heard, so might be a bit earlier.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 09:11 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 09:12 (thirteen years ago)

It's down for two weeks

at least 6 months, surely?

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 09:14 (thirteen years ago)

McGeady might be worth a gamble for ten million but Spartak value him at about three time that amount

Really hoping someone falls for that as it'll fetch Celtic another £3m sell-on fee on top of the £9m we already took them for.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:39 (thirteen years ago)

Dalglish owes us a favour or two

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:41 (thirteen years ago)

Forest can have the odd quiet game but he's been a match winner on many occasions and will continue to improve. I'd rather have him in my team than £30m rated Aiden McGeady.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:42 (thirteen years ago)

Danger is he'd be Shaun Maloney Mk. II if he left just now

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:43 (thirteen years ago)

30m rated gtfo

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:45 (thirteen years ago)

or a team could just spend 15m on honda or elia and not have to worry about scotching their team

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:45 (thirteen years ago)

Or irishing their pints

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:46 (thirteen years ago)

lol

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

30m rated gtfo

I'm only quoting Spartak's valuation!

I'm hoping if I call him "£30m Spartak star Aiden McGeady" in enough places it'll become true.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 11:33 (thirteen years ago)

ha yeah not aimed at yourself but y'know

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

spurs have picked up 8 points from 7 matches vs 'top 7' opponents

Defoe scores every 113 mins, adebayor every 189

VDV has scored once in 12.

Can trace everything there, directly or indirectly, back to unwillingness to rotate the squad for the softer games imo.

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 12:33 (thirteen years ago)

if Arry's aim is the Champions League rather than winning the title then maybe it makes sense for him to go all out against the weaker opposition and rack points up that way.

i mean clearly it makes sense because there you are.

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

Don't think we really need to rotate the squad that much, they're only playing once a week if that and have been rested for European and cup games. VDV is the only one really flagging that I can see and Defoe definitely deserves a run in the team now.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

spurs have picked up 8 points from 7 matches vs 'top 7' opponents

Blackburn have picked up 7 from 8.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

vdv has been flagging since day one, tbf, it's more that lately his free role space is being a little impeded by bale/lennon switching- shifting reliance for goals/assists from two players to five is a good thing in itself, really, to double back on myself completely

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

isolated, being battered by city sans a midfield and with crouch up front, that's fine, they were rampant at that stage

Utd, we matched under those conditions for an hour, that was ok

We beat lfc and arsenal, drew away to newcastle

Don't know the other result off top of my head?

Not really a disaster, as long as we don't eg draw with wolves at home

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs might be the only team we've consistently done well against since we came up

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

oh yes!

Spurs might be the only team we've consistently done well against since we came up

this has never not been true historically

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder if Kia Joorabchian is paying 20% of that?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

Just read that a new jury has to be selected at 'arry's trial after a Guardian journalist tweeted a juror's name. It'll be good to get a few fresh faces in and have a proper go.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

wtf

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

wen u look at the bench there's not a lot theah i just fink we need a few changes u no brian

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

I read about the reselection on twitter so [citation needed] tbh but I found this:

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=48623&c=1

Use of Twitter has been banned from the tax evasion trial of Harry Redknapp after a journalist named a juror on the social networking site.

The same reporter, who is understood to be a staff journalist with Guardian News and Media, is believed to have also reported the evidence of a witness given under oath when the jury was not present.

Both breaches have resulted in the judge banning the use of Twitter and ‘live text' at the trial and referring the case to the Attorney General, Dominic Grieve.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

The Tottenham Hotspur manager had told investigators looking into corruption in the Premier League in 2006 that he was "sick and tired" of suspicion repeatedly falling on him.

A jury heard on Wednesday that he had told Nigel Layton from the firm Quest, which was conducting the investigation into alleged "bungs" associated with Premiership transfers, that a friend had told him: "Harry, I can't believe it's always you. The problem with you is you're named Harry and you have a cockney accent."

"People don't know me," Redknapp had continued, "and I'm getting sick and tired of it … If there's any mud to be thrown I seem to be on the end of it, for some reason."

Why 'always 'im?

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

guardian live blogging anything that moves. tossers.

pandemic, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

Oops, maybe a mod better take my last post down as well?

Reporting things happening that the jury can't see is just ... uhh

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWP-z4O8Ddo&feature=player_embedded

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

wtf

Paul Kelso @pkelso
Redknapp told police: "I have a big problem, I can't write. I can't even fill in a team sheet. I write like a 2-year old and can't spell."

Miguel Delaney @MiguelDelaney
Redknapp apparently filled in Assou-Ekotto's name on the Uefa list as 'Benwaar'. That's not a joke.

mizzell, Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

http://arseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/spursteamsheet1.png

James Mitchell, Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/58126000/jpg/_58126192_unitedanfie;d.jpg

What's going on in this pic?

Cane it for the original white tees (admrl), Thursday, 26 January 2012 23:02 (thirteen years ago)

kenny's just thrown his boule imo

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Thursday, 26 January 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

Cruel of the BBC Football homepage to tease me with - 'Carroll seals move to Olympiakos' headline'. Roy Carroll, Bah!

pandemic, Friday, 27 January 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

What on earth is going to happen to him? Next four years of coming on in the 89th minute? I can't think of another case quite like it. Other white elephants have either been old (Shevchenko), proven class (Veron, Torres, Denilson sort of) or crocked (Lentini).

Ismael Klata, Friday, 27 January 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

Not that his transition to Premier League life was entirely seamless. At first Evra, his wife, Sandra, who is white, and their son, Lenny, now six, struggled to adapt. The food seemed like rubbish, the weather "a slap in the face" and it took a little time to establish himself in the first team. The sunny, stress-free days back in Monaco when he had startled team-mates by becoming part of Prince Albert's social circle must have appeared a distant mirage.

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 27 January 2012 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

Would have thought he'd be married to a blind woman.

James Mitchell, Friday, 27 January 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

Love is colourblack

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 27 January 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.noporkpies.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Premier-League-Transfer-Spending-2011.jpg

everton's little slice is crazy

mizzell, Friday, 27 January 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

I had to zoom in to find it.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Friday, 27 January 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

If it was net spend Arsenal would probably take their place.

James Mitchell, Friday, 27 January 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

Good ol' Roy
http://www.jmewhyte.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/carroll.bmp

Number None, Friday, 27 January 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

re that graphic: I wonder how many times Everton fits into Torres [/nsfw]

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 27 January 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23suarezmoments

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Friday, 27 January 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

https://twitter.com/#!/collinsterol/status/162941294900031490

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 27 January 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

qpr receive bullet in the post for anton ferdinand.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 27 January 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

does anton ferdinand own a gun then? Nice gesture if he does.

pandemic, Friday, 27 January 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

lone nut stuff tbf

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Friday, 27 January 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, needs a few parcel bombs, a la Neil Lennon, before it becomes serious

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 27 January 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

Couldn't he just have taken it there himself tomorrow?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 27 January 2012 18:16 (thirteen years ago)

Someone must be trying to blindmail him into not playing.

James Mitchell, Friday, 27 January 2012 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

Love this guy
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/jan/27/patrice-evra-manchester-united-liverpool

Number None, Friday, 27 January 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

https://twitter.com/#!/mrkennysenior/status/162638238232752129/photo/1

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Friday, 27 January 2012 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

Heh, and iirc deadline day wheeling & dealing is done exclusively by fax too

Ismael Klata, Friday, 27 January 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

single handedly keeping those fax companies in business

Number None, Friday, 27 January 2012 22:14 (thirteen years ago)

http://karlrimkus.com/unfrozen1.jpg

'arry in court, yesterday.

James Mitchell, Friday, 27 January 2012 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

unless you're in court you don't pick up the nuances of a case so i don't think it's fair for people to talk about the laughable bullshit inconsistent obvious fucking lies that constitute Arry's defence.

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 January 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy you said obne thing but meaqnt another thing imo

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 January 2012 04:53 (thirteen years ago)

Love this guy
One of 25 children?!

5th loneliest poster of 2011 (as proven by science) (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 28 January 2012 08:33 (thirteen years ago)

thought everyone knew that tbh

Number None, Saturday, 28 January 2012 08:53 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo5qX1Yr-hQ&feature=player_embedded

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 January 2012 09:02 (thirteen years ago)

That's a nice article. I even feel vaguely guilty for passing over it yesterday.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 January 2012 09:02 (thirteen years ago)

on the harry thing, yeah, i mean, he is gonna be guilty here right? something tells me the tax man doesn't do a day in court unless he's pretty sure.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 28 January 2012 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

plus yeah, his defence is basically "ah no lads"

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 28 January 2012 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

Not sure actually, tax cases are notoriously complicated. He's a charming guy and his defence is that Mandaric had paid the tax, he thought, so I don't think an acquittal is entirely out of the question.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 January 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

conviction but no jail i'd imagine

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 January 2012 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

IRS Agent: Krusty, this is America. We don't send our celebrities to jail. We're just going to garnish your salary.
Krusty the Clown: You're going to *garnish* my *celery*?

Number None, Saturday, 28 January 2012 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/28/liverpool-andy-carroll-carlos-tevez

lol and such?

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 28 January 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

Haha, awesome!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 January 2012 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

BEST LEAGUE IN THE WORLD (also most bonkers)

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 28 January 2012 23:21 (thirteen years ago)

City bearing down on destiny equipped with a Carroll/Džeko forward-line would be completely beautiful.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 January 2012 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

fucking hell, that's hilarious

Number None, Sunday, 29 January 2012 00:26 (thirteen years ago)

don't believe a word of it tbh

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 January 2012 00:30 (thirteen years ago)

i need this to be true right now

Number None, Sunday, 29 January 2012 00:31 (thirteen years ago)

dunno if it's just me but Mancini looks a lot like a dude that's choking oh ffs

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 January 2012 01:56 (thirteen years ago)

any truth in the rumour carroll's been wearing a shirt under his top, to be revealed when he scores, that says "save the chilean miners"

is it hrostep? (cozen), Sunday, 29 January 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

We'll never know.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 January 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

any truth in the rumour carroll's been wearing a shirt?

5th loneliest poster of 2011 (as proven by science) (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 29 January 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

not fit to iirc

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Monday, 30 January 2012 00:45 (thirteen years ago)

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h388/Hasselhoff99/suarezbirthday.gif

is it hrostep? (cozen), Monday, 30 January 2012 07:46 (thirteen years ago)

omg

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 30 January 2012 08:10 (thirteen years ago)

gif of the century

Number None, Monday, 30 January 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

Would like to see it mistakenly included in highlights package on the official website.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 06:50 (thirteen years ago)

Steffen Iversen's six-year-old son, Joey James, joins Spurs.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 07:27 (thirteen years ago)

Deadline day delivers.

Are they really called Tottenham Spiders in Norwegian?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 09:00 (thirteen years ago)

Guessing that, despite being linked to 8,000 mediocre players (and Kaka), this will be the most significant transfer Spurs will make all day.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 09:47 (thirteen years ago)

Spiders, you mean

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 09:48 (thirteen years ago)

i'm calling them that from now on

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 09:49 (thirteen years ago)

Must be some other transfer news on the web.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 09:54 (thirteen years ago)

Ravel Morrison is off to West Ham. Guess Barcelona reconsidered.

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 09:57 (thirteen years ago)

JanuaryWindow @JanuaryWindow Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
BREAKING NEWS: Manchester United had a £25m bid accepted for Wesley Sneijder, player will travel to Manchester for Medical by tonight. #MUFC

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:05 (thirteen years ago)

hmmm, apparently that's from 17 hours ago, nevermind

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:07 (thirteen years ago)

xp How can this guy allow this to happen? What's his thinking? I mean, I've let opportunities go by through stupidity, but I'm pretty sure I'd've spotted that keeping my head down and giving it a go at Utd would be the thing to do here.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:08 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/01/30/2875748/arsenal-close-in-on-400000-signing-of-borussia-dortmund

annoyed by the signing of reus and already having 12000 better players in his way, we are supposedly going for the new new new gotze.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:09 (thirteen years ago)

Is Jelavic any good? It's not right, Everton being the big spenders.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:20 (thirteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure it's the club who've called time on Morrison, Ismael. Too many second chances.

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:23 (thirteen years ago)

Disappointed my spider / web pun provoked no lols.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:24 (thirteen years ago)

I get the impression that no-one on ILX or anywhere else can really explain the interior life of Ravel Morrison

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:24 (thirteen years ago)

decoding his twitter might be a start

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:25 (thirteen years ago)

jeez

Manchester United's goalkeeping crisis deepened on Monday when David de Gea called in sick and Anders Lindegaard left the training ground on crutches.
De Gea was surprisingly recalled to the United line-up in place of Lindegaard for Saturday's FA Cup defeat at Liverpool following a four-match absence, but the young Spaniard was widely criticised for another uncertain performance.
It presented manager Sir Alex Ferguson with a difficult choice ahead of tonight's Premier League clash with Stoke at Old Trafford, but the United manager's options narrowed dramatically yesterday morning.
First, De Gea phoned to say that he was unwell and would not be coming in to train, then Lindegaard was injured during the session at Carrington and went home on crutches with his right foot in a protective boot.

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

spider, web - lolling now James

I know it's the club kicking him out btw, what I meant was how can he not take one of these second chances? It's not like being a pro footballer is a particularly demanding lifestyle, especially set against the rewards; and I bet Utd have been bending over backwards, if he's as good as everyone says he is.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

Is Rio fit?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:30 (thirteen years ago)

Rio is a maybe i think.

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

Is Jelavic any good?

Not really. Rangers seems to have drained the life from him, he's been mostly pish all season. Looked OK to start with when he came up here, but not any more.

Everton being stupid afaic forking out money for someone who's probably about to be made redundant shortly anyway.

ailsa, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:39 (thirteen years ago)

although it's no doubt an appalling personal choice, i'm enjoying someone just saying 'i'm too good to be a reserve player' when it might actually be true for once

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:43 (thirteen years ago)

Lindegaard apart, I can't imagine Ferguson's impressed with de Gea taking a sickie in face of Huth et al, only a couple of days after being pushed around at Anfield. The lad could've timed it better.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:45 (thirteen years ago)

i'm enjoying someone just saying 'i'm too good to be a reserve player' when it might actually be true for once

So why not take a loan to a Championship side, rather than a permanent transfer? He's been turfed out. End of story.

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

he might be really sick

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

what a horribly formed "joke"

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:49 (thirteen years ago)

Of course, but do you think that's crossed Ferguson's mind?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:50 (thirteen years ago)

My interpretation of the whole saga is that Morrison and agent realised the club had given up, started trying to drum up interest by planting Barcelona/City/whoever rumours and have now had to settle for what they can get.

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:54 (thirteen years ago)

I haven't seen West Ham this year, but from what I hear about them there'd be better places for a Scholes type to play his football.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:59 (thirteen years ago)

Morrison probably has some raw talent but is clearly a fuckwit, wouldn't be surprised if Man United had given up on him. If he was actually that good:

- He'd have played more in United's worst injury crisis in years
- He'd be going somewhere a lot better than West Ham. If he's on his way to West Ham it means even QPR don't want him, and they'll buy any old shit.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

No results found for "future ballon d'or winner Ravel Morrison".

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

Djbril Cisse coming back to the Prem then. Judging from what I've seen of Lazio this season QPR fans can expect a minimum of six 30 yard 'shots' per game miles over the bar from him. Exciting.

Will always love him for scoring his pen.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

a fearsome partner for olisadebe in cm4, rip

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

Saha to the Tottenham Spiders?

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

Louis Saha? Who hasn't scored in 12 months or whatever?

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

You say Saha, I zay Zaha

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

haha

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

This appears to be a thing, albeit a thing that makes sense to absolutely no one. Unless Everton desperately want him off their wage bill and we desperately want someone else to sit on our bench.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

Not really. Rangers seems to have drained the life from him, he's been mostly pish all season. Looked OK to start with when he came up here, but not any more.

I think he's of Premier League standard. Good with back to goal, runs the channels, strong, shoots on sight, good goals record, doesn't look overly arsed about anything ever. I'm delighted he's leaving Rangers.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

Hope Rosie's not involved (xp)

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

I'm delighted he's leaving Rangers.

Too right

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

I'd rather he stayed, went on strike as a result like he did at Rapid, and drained them of his wages without doing anything in return for the rest of the season.

Still, David Healy up front on his own will be lol in its own delightful way.

ailsa, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

fuck's sake, if this is our excuse to get rid of pav i'm gonna stage a dirty protest at work

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

Can only assume we'll be loaning Pienaar back to Everton now? And selling Pav? The idea that Pav is a worse option than a latter day Louis Saha is ridiculous.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

Good old spiders. A Saha deal can only be explained by this: Has The Transfer Market Become Self-Aware?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

Hold on, you're staying at White Hart Lane after all that?!

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

Latest gossip is that the Saha transfer is set to go but only if Spurs fail to sign Rodellega. So Saha is the backup option to the Wigan striker who has scored half as many goals (one) as Saha has put away this season (two).

I can feel that title coming home.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

Just makes no sense whatsoever. You really don't need either imo. Bizarre.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

Also both seem kind of stop gap signings which considering adebayor will likely not be there next season leaves you needing to sign maybe 2 top strikers in the summer.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah guys, it's called wheeling and dealing

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

McCarthy out, preferably strapped to a mid-Atlantic bound V2.

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

OK, that Transfer Market become self-aware thing is awesome !

Jibe, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

Paddy McCarthy?

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

So QPR get Zamora as well. Does r/t/c still hang around this parish? Wonder what he makes of it. Think Zamora will do well at QPR.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

Oh and BBC claiming Spurs bid for Loic Remy but were rejected. Jibe to thread.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

if fulham get barrios that could be a major upgrade though
xp

mizzell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

Corluka has been loaned to Leverkusen for the rest of the season. Not sure who Spurs back up rb is now. kaboul i guess.

mizzell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

Surprised Zamora is leaving tbh.

Saha deal is the LOL of this window tbh

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

Ooh hadn't heard that mizzell. Yeah Lewandowski has kept him on the bench with his superb form this season. Dortmund have Reus coming so can see why Barrios could go but v risky on their part for the rest of this season I think.
Barrios is v good indeed.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

not sure if it will happen cause dortmund also sold apparently sold zidan

mizzell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

Kyrgiakos to Sunderland!

Chris, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

He's escaped Magath into the arms of O'Neill!!

zidan hasn't started for dortmund for 2 years it feels like.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

now spurs 'linked to' juve's krasic. I have never seen him play well in the dozen games I've seen.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

Defoe to Liverpool! Could this day get any better?!

Chris, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

maybe if any of these things actually happen

mizzell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

i'm having robbie keane flashbacks
xp
would rather we just bought no-one this window and made do with what we have tbh

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

hmmm

I like defoe v much but he's not a good fit while we have adebayor. While.

Rodallega's been off the boil for some time too, but at least he's something. Saha for pav is rubbish.

No moves for niko?

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

the only transfer so far involving Scottish clubs during the current transfer window where a fee has been involved, was Dougie Imrie's move to St Mirren from Hamilton Accies (£35,000)

EPL has nothing on the SPL when it comes to deadline day excitement

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

tbf one of your 2 biggest clubs are about to go tits up so spl not in need of any more excitement surely.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

rangers been about to go tits up for years

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

I'm sure a few strokes have been pulled over the years (with more to come) to ensure that won't happen

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Defoe isn't going to Liverpool, whether he wants to or not.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

phew! i'm holding you to that Matt ;)

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

God have Fulham really signed Pogrebnyak? He's rubbish.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

Defoe to Liverpool can't not happen, it's one of those rare moves where everybody's happy, even Everton.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

Rangers confirm that Norwich City have rejected a bid for striker Grant Holt.

Like being offered a starboard side cabin in the Costa Concordia

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

long xpost to pandemic : as far as i'm aware, this isn't the first time spurs have shown an interest in loïc rémy. but it's not really a surprise that marseille would tell them off, they're in a bad spot attack wise : they have rémy who is doing quite well, fat gignac who's proving to be as useless as they come (there's so much to tell about this guy), brandao who's just come back after about a year away from marseille after he was accused of rape (dunno how that trial is going along or even if there's one) and jordan ayew who still has to prove himself in ways other than getting carded for stupid fouls just after having been subbed in.

Jibe, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

The Mayor's office has offered £8.5million for regeneration around the new football ground.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-mayor/article-24032480-spurs-called-on-to-support-area-being-regenerated-after-the-riots.do

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

thx jibe

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

spurs really only need lb/rw cover/challengers, would sacrifice a midfielder or two for that if necessary.

RIP corluka but even i can't deny walker's there on merit now.

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

We need a big striker who can lead the line in Adebayor's absence. Would take Rodallega for that.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

Pogrebnyak's ok but i can't see him getting more than 8-10 goals a season. Dembele's not going to get any more. Maybe wages are putting them off but they could do worse than trying to take Pav on loan.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

God have Fulham really signed Pogrebnyak? He's rubbish.

really? :( Don't go Bobby Z! :(

kid steel (cajunsunday), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

Guardian reckon Bobby Z hitting QPR up for 90G's a week so the deal might not go thru. There's still hope for you and Tracer!

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

£90,000 a week is the right wage for Bobby Z, but QPR is the wrong club. I'm torn.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

whaaat

Wow, didn't see this one coming - Everton's Irish full-back/winger Seamus Coleman is on the move! Details to follow ...

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:30 (thirteen years ago)

oh it was a shit joke

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

i'm torn btwn wanting us to sign a couple of top class players to get us closer to third and thinking 'what the hell harry won't rotate anyway might as well offload the subs bench'

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

i'm torn between wanting Mick McCarthy to get Ebola and wanting Steve Morgan to get Necrotising Fasciitis

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

i'm torn between kirsty gallacher and dave beasant

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

Is the Saha deal on or not? News sites have been using future tense for a little too long now.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

hang on, there's a fax coming through

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:47 (thirteen years ago)

faxes don't come through that quickly iirc

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

an' iv'ey did oi wouldn't 'ave a clue 'ow to work 'em

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

Ben Amos in goal for Utd

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

nice stuff from krancjar

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

they're cutting through us easily enough, happy to predict al habsi has 'one of those games'

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

jaysus what has Berbatov done to his hair

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

Bale-----> <------ VDV

Kranjcar

Modric Parker

Ekotto Walker

awwwwgooooal

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

bale from modric cross, that was comin

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

modric half volley from just inside box

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

seven man attack ftw

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

sky showing everton ffs

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool-Wolves is as you'd expect.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

my stream broke immediately after sinclair's goal for swansea, without the benefit of replays i'm still torn between whether the back to the goal arcing volley into the top corner was lovely or if it was lucky.

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

Utd utterly dominant without threatening much. Kenwyne Jones appears to be playing in midfield

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

Hernandez pen

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

wow

anyone watching the everton game?

is it hrostep? (cozen), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

someone's just come on the pitch and handcuffed himself to the posts

is it hrostep? (cozen), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

never seen that in my life

bet he's swallowed the key as well

is it hrostep? (cozen), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

now he's kicking off at the police

is it hrostep? (cozen), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

he's off now

2043: I've never seen this before. A spectator has managed to get on the pitch at Goodison Park and has handcuffed himself to Joe Hart's goalposts. Plenty of day-glo clad officials surrounding him trying to free the intruder. They aren't having much luck at the moment. Extraordinary.

is it hrostep? (cozen), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

can't believe suarez went to goodison instead of the wolves game.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

cant believe i went to get tea ffs

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

Tell you what lads, Scholes is rolling back the years etc.

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

pic: http://lockerz.com/s/179517224

long duk dan (dan m), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

(handcuffs pic, that is)

long duk dan (dan m), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

I guess he's taking the news that Saha might be leaving rather hard.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll's doing alright but for all the support he's getting he might as well not bother. At least Defoe will make runs for him.

Haha, scores!

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

Brilliant cross, so good AC could practically roll it in on the half-volley with his sole.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll for England!

kid steel (cajunsunday), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

who was the cross from?

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

Adam

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

someone's just come on the pitch and handcuffed himself to the posts

I was watching that - fuck knows what he was trying to achieve. I assume he wanted to publicize something, but he didn't have a t-shirt with a slogan on or anything and he got really arsey when the police started trying to 'free' him.

5th loneliest poster of 2011 (as proven by science) (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

Oohhh I fancy Swansea beating Chelsea tonight oh yes!

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

Hennessey palms one in from Bellamy, 2-0

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

How did they free the guy so quickly? Did he get the cuffs from Ann Summers?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

11 million pounds for Pav is good business. saha to come in and sit on the bench for the rest of the season.
bale scores again

mizzell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

nuCarroll suddenly rampant - turns a man! And shoots from distance! Wide!

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

Berbatov pen

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

guess spurs will have to buy 2 strikers in the summer (hard to see addebayor staying)

mizzell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

they should play suarez on the wing when he comes back

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

the right wing

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

also, Utd signed some Swiss centre back from City?

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

hey it's essien i hadn't noticed him. why isn't he at the african cup of nations?

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

retired

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

ekotto with a rotten tackle on disanto should be red, no fk

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

bae just got away with a nasty over the ball challenge.
xp

mizzell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

lol walker picks up an injury hours after corluka shipped out.

mizzell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

Kuyt, 3-0. What the hell is going on?!

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

GIBBO!

5th loneliest poster of 2011 (as proven by science) (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

Beautiful counterattack all the same.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

it's a pretty sad indictment of, i guess Chelsea, and perhaps the league generally, that if things stay as they are tonight, despite fucking up ENDLESSLY, Liverpool are still right in with a shot at a CL place.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

gibson lol

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

someone should call gibson up for ireland. i hear he has a great shot on him. curious to see what the rest of his game is like.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

lancaster debut, nice to see

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

knew that transfer would pay off

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

freak wigan goal

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool are...actually trouncing a team.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

Goal apart, Gibson has been fucking shite, endlessly kicking the ball to City / no one / off the pitch.

5th loneliest poster of 2011 (as proven by science) (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

ref refuses to give Utd their third penalty

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

Red for AC

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

Ashley Cole

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

niiice

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea are boiling over

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

spurs woeful 2nd half

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

Meireles & Luiz both having a kick within a minute

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

bale forces al habsi into cracking save after 60 yard run. Just the two so far then.

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

pish

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

Pogba is on and impressing

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea kind of deserve that for sitting back instead of going for the throat. I hate that, but thought Swansea were probably good enough to do it.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

drenthe has to walk for that

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

It's bloody annoying though, they had a number of two-on-twos that they took backwards instead.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

drenthe has to walk for that

Yeah, should have done. City not getting many decisions tonight. Not that I want them to.

5th loneliest poster of 2011 (as proven by science) (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

hull/blackpool moment

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

saw the drenthe tackle from another angle

has to walk

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

it's a pretty sad indictment of, i guess Chelsea, and perhaps the league generally, that if things stay as they are tonight, despite fucking up ENDLESSLY, Liverpool are still right in with a shot at a CL place

While this is trextent big extent, Liverpool's fuck ups are mostly drawing-instead-of-winning. They've lost less than everyone bar the Manchester clubs and Spiders (but only by one). Spurs' position is the outlier really, it shows how much you gain by winning-instead-of-drawing.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

chelsea's two points dropped tonight will be more significant that the point they gained

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

that was very encouraging stuff from Pogba. Valencia magnificent again.

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

it's a pretty sad indictment of, i guess Chelsea, and perhaps the league generally, that if things stay as they are tonight, despite fucking up ENDLESSLY, Liverpool are still right in with a shot at a CL place.

arsenal, chelsea, liverpool all struggling to deal with a much-improved overall quality of opposition in the league, imo. spurs and city have improved hugely over the past two years, only utd in the top six have stayed static, and fuck knows how.

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

get in

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

pleased we're getting a title race; horrified that Utd are in it

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

otm

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

God bless you Everton and your dour attritional shitkickers. Pretty much a perfect evening.

Except now we're back in the title race. And now I have to hope again.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

That isn't liverpool's problem, though, it's the crap teams we've been struggling against. True for Arsenal & Chelsea though.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

we're not in any title race

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

it's a pretty sad indictment of, i guess Chelsea, and perhaps the league generally, that if things stay as they are tonight, despite fucking up ENDLESSLY, Liverpool are still right in with a shot at a CL place.

You probably could have said that in other seasons as well, though. Going back about 5 years or so Liverpool and Arsenal both had a season or two when they were mostly rubbish yet still managed to climb up into the top four by the end of the season. Finishing fourth isn't necessarily that difficult - it would be more of an indictment if Liverpool looked like winning the league this season.

5th loneliest poster of 2011 (as proven by science) (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal, chelsea, liverpool all struggling to deal with a much-improved overall quality of opposition in the league

this doesn't reflect their performances at all. these three clubs are all worse than they've been in recent years, the worst arguably apart from liverpool who are prob marginally better than the last two dire seasons.

no way do i agree it's about better opposition, have you watched liverpool?

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

just takin' a break from reading to say ronan otm
also darragh otm

football eh

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

they can't both be otm!

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

neither otm

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:16 (thirteen years ago)

everyone's otm!

kid steel (cajunsunday), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:16 (thirteen years ago)

well done all

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

oh i was referring specifically to this:

we're not in any title race

rather than the thing he said that ronan argued convincingly against. sorry for the confusion.

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

I'd've been curious to see Liverpool in the CL this year, by some miracle. It's the Rafa thing again of playing the big games well and having no idea what to do the rest of the time.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

How many points have Swansea taken off the top six or seven so far this season?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

Okay, I see it - if Spurs are still there in April then they're in it; 'til then it's a decent side enjoying a remarkable run.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

chelsea's two points dropped tonight will be more significant that the point they gained

― teaky frigger (darraghmac), dinsdag 31 januari 2012 22:48 (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is raising my spirits here, thans deems <3

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

Three v Arsenal, one each v Liverpool and Tottenham?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:22 (thirteen years ago)

I'd've been curious to see Liverpool in the CL this year, by some miracle. It's the Rafa thing again of playing the big games well and having no idea what to do the rest of the time.

was thinking about this recently. worth remembering that rafa was woeful against the other top four sides at the start, then sort of clicked into gear.

i think a lot of the supposedly encouraging signs about lfc are actually just bollocks based on post-rafa hangover in terms of style/tactics/personnel.

like "liverpool have a good defence"=a conservative setup, concede less and score less, the goals they do concede frequently involve awful defending.

-"they just need to turn those draws into wins"- see above, they do need to do this but the answer to all their problems is removing the rafa "negate the opposition" bullshit mentality and completely adopting the idea that they dictate the play and that's how they win games.

judging by man u at the weekend and the recent games against city they're still using this counter-attack negativity crutch.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

'Arry just on SSN saying they wouldn't Pienaar wasn't allowed go on loan because they couldn't get "the lad from Jooventus"

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

Wolves manager Mick McCarthy: "The fans' reaction is fully understood and the last 35 minutes were unacceptable. We were getting a real chasing but they're a great bunch of lads, work their socks off for me and the club. The shape that I had was making it difficult, but I was never going to keep it 4-5-1, defend and lose 2-0, so I take the blame for the last 35 minutes."
There was a banner unfurled at Molineux calling for McCarthy to leave. Unless they were very quick with their handiwork, that suggests dissatisfaction based on more than the final half-hour.

i trained with the bloke doing this min by min - nice zing on mccarthy there.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

Manchester United defender Rio Ferdinand on former Old Trafford midfielder Darron Gibson's Everton winner against Manchester City which allowed Manchester United to go level on points at the top of the table: "He will be getting a text message from me later to say well done.

should really tweet him a link to this interview instead, save the money.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

xp That's why I find it incredibly hard to judge how far away we are from being a really good side tbh. We can hold our own against anyone decent, except if they're really on-song I suppose, but what's needed to win consistently? It could be as little as Lucas back + a finisher, so long as they were set up right.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

better wingers maybe...i think also though they've nothing really coming through the middle of midfield in attacking areas either. there's not enough danger/pace in the midfield generally.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

Rio leaking texts in advance, that's New Labourite in its media sophistication

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

Agree with that, but it's across-the-board so what, replace the whole midfield? I don't know. I do wish Meireles was still there though, he gave angles and such like Henderson never will.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

Morrison's salary will start at around £12,000 a week with this possibly increasing to as much as £65,000. The rising sliding scale will be triggered only if West Ham regain their Premier League status. Then, after a certain number of top-flight starts, his salary would rise incrementally towards the £65,000 ceiling

Damn - you get kind of immune to salary talk, but this makes me quite envious, imagining this lot racking up exponentially. It's some comfort to know he'll just piss it all away.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

Ryan Nelsen to the Spiders, possibly

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

this doesn't reflect their performances at all. these three clubs are all worse than they've been in recent years,

sorry, had to change a wash, cook up a stirfry

spurs have signed saha- confirmed

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

anyway, i don't know- it could be just as simple as you can tell by watching just liverpool in a game and be able to say that, yes, liverpool are worse. i suspect that the bottom/mid-bottom teams are substantially better than they have been in other recent seasons though, and i don't think that it's just as easy as comparing one team across different periods either, is all.

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

i've no idea why i've detailed my activities there, mind was on natalie sawyers yellow dress tbph

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

saha?

is it hrostep? (cozen), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

zamora to qpr confirmed

keith andrews to wba confirmed

pizarro to city confirmed

pogbranyak to fulham confirmed

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

six month deal from everton

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

can't believe man u passed on andrews

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

the ssn guy is making me puke WE'VE DONE IT AGAIN ON TRANSFER DAY fireworks noises and faces transposed onto big ben

bridge to sunderland!

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

boro rejected 6m from bolton for rhys williams

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:02 (thirteen years ago)

Pizarro arrived in Italy from Santiago in 1998 and played for Udinese for five years before joining Inter.

He joined Roma in 2006 but has made only 142 appearances

from bbc...kinda weird, surely 142 appearances in six years is a fairly decent return?

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

QPR. Quality. Players. Recruited.

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

quids pros reunited

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

24 appearances a year isn't great ronan

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

BASSONG JOINS WOLVES ON LOAN

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:11 (thirteen years ago)

THAT HELPS NOBODY

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:11 (thirteen years ago)

and ryan nelsen to spurs wtf

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:12 (thirteen years ago)

Harry just cannot help himself

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:13 (thirteen years ago)

rly tho

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

Apparently he was released from his contract

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

tremendous stuff from Hansen on MOTD. "because he's sidefooted it, you're entitled to appeal for a penalty kick"

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:26 (thirteen years ago)

lol rly tho couldn't believe it

cannot believe that city and hansen are encouraging the idea that dzeko was fouled in the buildup to the evertone goal as opposed to being lucky not to be booked for a raking stamp

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:28 (thirteen years ago)

these heart celebrations have got to stop.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:32 (thirteen years ago)

so harry, done some good wheeling and dealing?

kid steel (cajunsunday), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:35 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs got Saha solely because it's easy for 'Arry to put that name on the sheet?

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:36 (thirteen years ago)

The shape that I had was making it difficult, but I was never going to keep it 4-5-1, defend and lose 2-0, so I take the blame for the last 35 minutes."

Actually admitting that you have no idea what you're doing (as if it wasn't obvious enouygh) is something else. These guys really do have no idea how to play anything other than 442, no idea that a 451 can be more attack-minded than 'two up top'. Amazing.

Chris, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:37 (thirteen years ago)

utd should have had a third pen

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:37 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it was clear as day. Pearse is an idiot.

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

fuck off Pulis

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

ooh, Hansen getting scared

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:41 (thirteen years ago)

Scott Sinclair apparently trying to actively draw the Chelsea fans' attention to the fact that he wasn't celebrating having scored against them

nice finish

MPx4A, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:44 (thirteen years ago)

Pienaar has gone (back) to Everton

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

eh yeah nbd there livermore, krancjar cover most midfield spots as is

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

this lad hennessey is no goalkeeper imo, 0% for agility

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:51 (thirteen years ago)

that was sweet

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:59 (thirteen years ago)

and that.

Number None, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 00:00 (thirteen years ago)

Tottenham confirm that they have reached an agreement for the transfer of striker Roman Pavlyuchenko to Lokomotiv Moscow

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 00:08 (thirteen years ago)

redknapp- pav's looking to move

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 00:09 (thirteen years ago)

xp

shitonit

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 00:09 (thirteen years ago)

Sinclair's anti-celebration was lol. That shit needs to be retired.

Number None, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 00:13 (thirteen years ago)

pienaar deal still on

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

thought it was confirmed?

Number None, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 00:31 (thirteen years ago)

thank fuck we've not gone all headless chicken and let this recent poor run panic us into strengthening the squad

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 02:40 (thirteen years ago)

Pav should do well at Lokomotiv. Obviously sad to see him go but it's good that they've stopped fucking him about.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 06:28 (thirteen years ago)

RIP BBC Sport.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 07:34 (thirteen years ago)

and it was all yellow

is it hrostep? (cozen), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 07:45 (thirteen years ago)

Speaking of the striker after Tottenham's 3-1 victory over Wigan on Tuesday evening, Redknapp told Sky Sports News: "I like Saha.

"He's got good movement, can score goals but probably needs a change. He's out of contract at the end of the year so David Moyes has let him go.

"I can remember speaking to Rio Ferdinand and he said he was the best forward he'd played against."

Rio Ferdinand of the "has a terrible memory" fame?

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 09:09 (thirteen years ago)

Saha's an outstanding forward imo, at least until recently, but his injury record is terrible and he must be what, 32 by now? He'd be a good short-term punt, except Spiders already have a hungry Defoe.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 09:16 (thirteen years ago)

At his best Saha is no doubt better than van Persie, Henry, Bergkamp, Messi, Klose, Aguero, Kris Boyd, etc.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 09:30 (thirteen years ago)

some of that is true

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 09:31 (thirteen years ago)

i don't know what to think about the fact that Bassong can factually only improve our back line.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

Realistically all Saha's going to do is sit on our bench as cover I think, they've obviously realised if we're only going to play one striker at a time we might as well sell Pav for a reasonable sum while we still can. I love Pav but really he deserves to be playing week in week out somewhere. Saha won't piss and whine about being on the bench. He used to be great but he isn't any more, although he might be a decent impact sub when he's not injured.

Shit, he's basically the new Michael Owen.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 10:43 (thirteen years ago)

Saha's lost it far less than Owen imo

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 10:46 (thirteen years ago)

Louis Saha for Everton: 35 goals in 115 appearances
Michael Owen for Manchester Utd: 17 goals in 52 appearances

Number None, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 10:57 (thirteen years ago)

one of those is playing for Everton, the other is coming on for United when they're playing against part-timers

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 10:59 (thirteen years ago)

Have Everton got any forwards at all now?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:00 (thirteen years ago)

nah i know, just presenting the stats. I think it's much of a muchness though. You really aren't going to get much out of Saha these days

Number None, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:01 (thirteen years ago)

They signed Jelavic yesterday

Number None, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:01 (thirteen years ago)

Saha doesn't seem worth a contract by sheer dint of his injury record, agreed

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

Jelavic, Vellios, a couple of young lads who look alright xp

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

Tim Cahill's chipping in with a goal a year, they'll be fine.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:03 (thirteen years ago)

Forgot about Jelavic. Stracqua... Starcq... Stra... some Argentinian bloke

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:03 (thirteen years ago)

So Terry has to be in court as late as July 9. He can play the Euros carefree now and win it for England! Aren't yall psyched?

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:39 (thirteen years ago)

ya, pure psyched now boss

flags post o fu (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

Lee Bowyer was amazing until his trial, so it could happen

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

not that Bowyer and Terry are similar

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, Bowyer's not completely detestable for one

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:59 (thirteen years ago)

Ryan Nelsen to Spurs?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, Bowyer's not completely detestable for one

http://gregdespres.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/objection2.jpg

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

it's not the distinction I'd've chosen tbh

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 12:29 (thirteen years ago)

Terry's not ginger

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

Gorblimey, leave it aht, you tryin' to say Lee Bowyer's an iron?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 12:33 (thirteen years ago)

WTH have the BBC done to their Football website. Colour...everywhere. And what's this? McNulty doing pieces to camera? Must.Resist.Urge. To find out if his writing style is mirrored by his speech.

pandemic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

It's horrible.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

It's like they asked Carles from Hipster Runoff to design it, the coloured rectangular squares and all.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

And they appear to have done away with European Club Football (except Ch Lge and Europa). Used to go there to look up fixtures and tables. Bah!

pandemic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

oh it's still there. I was being dim. Still it is a right eyesore.

pandemic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

fucks sake like their site wasn't slow enough loading

flags post o fu (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

Wilshere stress fracture in his right foot. That wasn't the previous injury was it? Think it was his ankle.

pandemic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

Tim Cahill's chipping in with a goal a year, they'll be fine

Can you chip with your head?

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.bootifulgame.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2012-02-01-horseshit.png

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

RIP Grayson and also BBC having a website I could look at.

Excited to see Miyaichi at Bolton on loan. Arsenal fans on the internet still call him 'the next Christiano Ronaldo' which I think is hilar, especially given my own history of hyping Arsenal youngsters but everyones optimism towards him does get me excited. Wilshere was as good as the hype suggested at Bolton, hopefully Ryooooooooooooooooo can do too. If only so I can do my Hacksaw Jim Duggan impression when he scores.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

The CR comparison is silly, just like almost every comparison of a hot prospect with CR or Messi. But I too can't wait to see him play again; he was a minor sensation at Feyenoord.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

Is he available tonight? I need a reason to subject myself to one of these games.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

can we just assume redknapp is guilty by dint of his employing the bertie ahern defence? "what is money? i don't even actually know what a note is, why i couldn't even win a coin toss? i'll be honest i actually have the brain of an amoeba, a bank account? what's a bank account??? i just like a pint and some football"

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

xp Loan signing so I assume not?

Arsenal game looks like it might be okay tho. Bolton on a 3-game winning streak, Arsenal buoyed by Villa comeback...woof, as they say.

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

lol lg

terry trial takes place after euros

should capello bring him

if rio makes a deal of it, will he be left home

i'm enjoying these questions, feel like i might take up smoking weed just to ponder them like i imagine ilx poster lamp does with various deep subjects

flags post o fu (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

Harry also going for the high-risk five-up-front tactic of shouting at a spectator in court while giving his evidence, I don't know what he's trying to do there to be honest.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

what are the chances of Rio even being fit?

Number None, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I dont think any club will let a loanee go out and still be able to play that club these days.

xpost

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

It's actually against the rules iirc

Number None, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

anyone watching young spiders- young liverpool in the next gen quarterfinals? i have a very janky stream going so i have seen about 30 secs of action.

mizzell, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

the new live football website at bbc is an atrocity :-(

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

ha sweet lfc tv is in my sky package

flags post o fu (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)

LFC TV is free if you have any Sky package lol

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)

I can remember speaking to Rio Ferdinand and he said Terry was the biggest cunt he'd played against. Though Rio might have been off his box, so fuck knows.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

fuck's sake tackling is a bit fierce

flags post o fu (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

valencia v. barca, inter v. palermo if you aren't up for the premiership tonight. gonna watch arsenal though - missed the past two and wanna see aoc.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

Meanwhile, 40 to 50 dead at Al-Masry vs Al-Ahly in Egypt today :-(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOSjge5v2go

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

73 deaths according to Al JAzeera now

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:58 (thirteen years ago)

and Cisse scores...

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

Wait, what's happened in Egypt?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

i can't make head nor tail of that but reports are mentioning knives being a major factor

flags post o fu (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

supporters of one side invaded the pitch and attacked the players and staff of other side, full-on riot ensued.

mizzell, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

Is it 73 murders? That video didn't look like a crush or stampede, unless there's a tunnel over on the far right.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

Supporters of the winning team assaulted the fans of the losing team apparantly. Al J. reporting 73 dead now.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

Horrible.

Less horrible but still worth bitching about: the BBC live update doesn't happen while I'm on another tab, so I get a stream of 100 updates at once when I click on it. ARGH REDESIGN #134

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

jesus christ

flags post o fu (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

Most players got off the pitch in time, but not some of the staff of both teams. 'Fans' also tried to break into the dressing rooms.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

@Sam, that is my biggest beef with it, too

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/02/20122118396971404.html

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

rafa is at our game. we are beating them back, just not hitting the target.

feel like a dick posting about anything not happening in egypt. just shocking.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

oh a beauty, a beauty from campbell for sunderland

flags post o fu (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

maybe we should have a thread for the stabbings.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

http://mideastsoccer.blogspot.com/2011/12/egyptian-battle-lines-harden-as-ultras.html

long duk dan (dan m), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

He said most of the injuries were caused by concussion and deep cuts

Awful. An orchestrated ambush to take advantage of low security presence, it reads like.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

aw man if that went in, n'gog would have scored the gots. beautiful back heel chipped it up and over our defenders and a perfect control on his chest and volleyed shot by n'gog just wide.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

I think it was Wheater with the backheel touch.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

FOR FUCKS SAKE THEO. ONE ON ONE WITH THE KEEPER YOU DO NOT TAMELY PASS AT JUSSIS FEET ON THE 18 YARD LINE.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

Mertesacker: Not a centre forward.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

xp yes he does iirc

flags post o fu (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

sunderland with another vg goal

flags post o fu (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

(sorry it isnt jussi, i just assumed it would be. it is 'bogdon' or something)

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

sessgnon megs in centre, outside of boot pass swept out to wing, campbell first time deep cross for sessegnon to head home.

flags post o fu (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

love watching sessegnon play

mizzell, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

Villa 1-2 QPR, Bent's 100th goal. Villa looked awful for a while, then QPR looked awful.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

i've heard a bunch about sessegnon post-o'neil and absolutely nothing about him before.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

commentator just put kevin davies in the same catagory of legends as thierry.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

It's all relative

Number None, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

otm except for longevity

flags post o fu (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

Blackburn hit bar. They kept Samba, right? But he's not in the squad tonight.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

Penalty to blackburn

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

saved

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

Villa are going to equalise. QPR are unimpressive.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

Actually Cisse looks threatening, but after the first twenty minutes he hasn't had a teammate near him.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

Alan Hutton

MPx4A, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

good player, Hutton

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

There's the equaliser. Lovely volley from N'Zogbia.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

Shhhhhharrrrlez

MPx4A, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

You got an adequate stream, IK? Mine is twitchin'

MPx4A, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

Cisse goes off, twenty minutes after tweaking a hamstring. Macheda on, can he do Villa again? (no)

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

Second link on firstrow

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

fuck, i actually entirely erased Macheda from my memory in the past month

Number None, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

My stream died and I couldn't find a good replacement, so I am on Final Score. Might look for Val-Bar if I hear we score. I used to like 'Chappers' but Mark Chapman is fucking everywhere and so fucking personality-free, which I never got from him when he was on the radio.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

deuuuuuuce

long duk dan (dan m), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

Ooh, Arsenal got away with that there.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

Is it possible that Arsenal could miss out on not just the Champions League but the Europa as well? God that would be hilarious.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

Also how many decidedly mediocre strikers do QPR have in one squad now? Like, 7 or 8? Actually Helguson is still pretty decent.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger out wenger out wenger out
Wenger out wenger out wengerrrr outttttttt
Wenger out wenger out wengeeer ouuut
WENGER OUT

Below fucking Newcastle.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

OBERTAN

Number None, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

FUCK! Why didn't I take my own recommendation and watch Inter-Palermo? 4-4!

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

Pity Chelsea got that equaliser, it just stretches things out a little for fourth. Would've given Swansea a bit of slack too.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

Teams with worse records than Arsenal since Christmas - Wolves, Wigan.

onimo, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

Of two ex-Feyenoord players at Al-Ahly, goalie Ekrami was pronounced dead but seems alive after all, he just appeared on telly. Hossam Ghaly badly injured. Christ.

(Sorry for using this thread for this, seems like the most used football thread)

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

Death toll 77 now..

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

lbi
70+ dead and over a thousand Injured after Football match in Egypt

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

ta Kerr

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

ta Kerr, dude

onimo, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

special one as arsenal manager in the summer when he leaves real.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

^^^ if that bullshit is right im going to look like fucking nostradamus in 6 months.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

http://image2.findagrave.com/photos/2004/284/6777_109748157931.jpg

?

Quand le déshonneur est public, il faut que la vengeance soit (Michael White), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

special one as arsenal manager in the summer when he leaves real.

― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:07 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^ if that bullshit is right im going to look like fucking nostradamus in 6 months.

― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:07 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

we can hope. he can spend all our cash on superstars, teach everyone how to actually defend and also win things, get bored within a year and let someone who is in the middle ground between wenger and jose.

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

commentator just put kevin davies in the same catagory of legends as thierry

This reminds me of when Henry said Kevin Davies was an inspiration to him.

wiat, here's the quote: "I look at Paul Dickov, the way he moves as he’s always moving everywhere for another type of game, Kevin Davies, to see what he does, and to annoy players." "

kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:22 (thirteen years ago)

Davies is known for his physical playing style; he has committed more fouls than any other player in the history of the Premier League, although conversely is one of the most fouled

on some net spend bullshit here imo

flags post o fu (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:28 (thirteen years ago)

The Spurs boss shoted from the witness box at prosecutor John Black QC, telling him: "You think I put my hand on the bible and told lies? That's an insult, Mr Black, that's an insult."

Bespectacled Redknapp, 64, shook his head as Mr Black ended his cross-examination at Southwark Crown Court, in London, by saying: "I suggest you have been telling the court a pack of lies."

His voice trembling with emotion, Redknapp replied: "Everything I have told you is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."

James Mitchell, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

lol

flags post o fu (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

haha

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

Speaking about the naming of his Monaco account, Mr Redknapp said he called the account Rosie after his pet bulldog because "I loved her to bits".

He told the court that he had to add his birth date to the name as there was another Monaco HSBC account called Rosie.

When prosecutor John Black QC suggested someone else might have had a dog by the same name, Redknapp said: "Or wife".

He added: "If she was as nice as Rosie they have got a good wife."

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

Redknapp drew laughter from the jury when he was asked about his decision to name the Monaco bank account ‘Rosie 47’, after his dog and his year of birth. He said he had added the number when the bank manager told him there was another account called Rosie.

“Lets hope it was not another dog,” Mr Black said. “Please, it could be someone’s wife,” Redknapp said. “If she is half as nice as Rosie he has got a good wife.” Later he said: “I still don’t like calling her a dog, she was so much better than that.”

Pros I know in the criminal defence game reckon this is the holy grail, btw, getting a jury to laugh along with you. A laughing jury never convicts, they say.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

my TV watching confirms this

Number None, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

FFS how ludicrous can this trial get. Next we'll be reading how Pele turned up and volleyed a ball at the prosecution lawyer and the judge smiled and said: "I'm going to allow this!"

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

everyone loves a rogueish cockney, nobody likes taxes. i'm putting this down as a banker jeff

flags post o fu (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

i thought people hated rich people dodging taxes these days?
hang him

pandemic, Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:52 (thirteen years ago)

yknow i think harry's scheme of pretending to be so mentally deficient that he couldn't possibly make up a vaguely plausible lie may just work.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 3 February 2012 00:46 (thirteen years ago)

John Terry has been stripped of the England captaincy, sources close to the defender have told the tabloids for £10,000.

James Mitchell, Friday, 3 February 2012 11:24 (thirteen years ago)

Who wants it then? Joe Hart?

Number None, Friday, 3 February 2012 11:27 (thirteen years ago)

Absolutely crushed that this racist who has played terribly all season and frankly since Ricardo Carvalho left will not longer lead Our Brave Lads into battle.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 February 2012 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

£10,000 for that tiny snippet of info?! Blimey, I have to be friends with this guy. I think my record on ILX shows I always defended Terry, right?

cunt

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 3 February 2012 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

Scotty Parker until Phil Jones or whoever is ready?

a hoy hoy, Friday, 3 February 2012 11:31 (thirteen years ago)

they should give it to Tevez and combine all interminable sagas into a single black hole of tedium

lol James

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 February 2012 11:31 (thirteen years ago)

Is Parker definitely first choice now?

Number None, Friday, 3 February 2012 11:32 (thirteen years ago)

Just think, they could have got a tour of Stamford Bridge for the same money.

James Mitchell, Friday, 3 February 2012 11:33 (thirteen years ago)

He has been since lolbarryatwc2010 right?

a hoy hoy, Friday, 3 February 2012 11:33 (thirteen years ago)

Appoint Brian Blessed ffs, he wouldn't even need to be on the pitch for all the role requires

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 February 2012 11:34 (thirteen years ago)

seriously though, Theo could do it

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 February 2012 11:35 (thirteen years ago)

You've got to admire EBRJT's ability to alienate half his teammates and get stripped of the captaincy ahead of every major tournament. It's quite an achievement.

He shouldn't be in the squad at all for the Euros, he'll be such a divisive and destructive presence it isn't worth it.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 February 2012 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

England should be allowed to field two teams. An evil one and a good one (might have difficulty getting eleven players for the latter though)

Number None, Friday, 3 February 2012 11:42 (thirteen years ago)

^ I like that

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 February 2012 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

I kind of want BRJT to be reappointed now. Waiting for the shoe to drop is more fun than it actually dropping imo.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 February 2012 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

good one wld be better imo!


Hart
Johnson Smalling Cahill Baines
THUDD Parker
Lennon Lampard* Milner
Zamora

*Hmmm, he is a tory but other than that, doesn't seem as cunty as he should be. Maybe replace with AOC or I guess Theo.

**Ok so most of these guys are most probably horrible people and they just happen to be the ones I haven't yet heard the stories about.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 3 February 2012 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

I reckon saintliness might be the criterion for Olympic selection, so we may actually get to see this brave new world fail in practice

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 February 2012 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

I just made a physical resemblance brainlink between Jose Mourinho and Richard Dawkins, I think it might only work from a low angle, not sure what this means for anything but there it is.

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Friday, 3 February 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/columnists/2012/1/24/1327421568201/Jose-Mourinho-003.jpg

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Friday, 3 February 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

Non-cunts England XI

Hart
Any of the RBs really, Jones, Smalling, Baines
Walcott, Parker, Okay I'm lost here, Young seems alright?
Dunno Welbeck and Bent or something?

Bit rubbish, really.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 February 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

BECKS IN SENSATION RETURN AS ENGLAND CAPTAIN

Alan Shearer (ken c), Friday, 3 February 2012 12:37 (thirteen years ago)

affair with pig wanker is not so unsaintly?

Alan Shearer (ken c), Friday, 3 February 2012 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

she wasn't a pig wanker until afterwards tbf

once a weak eye sample (onimo), Friday, 3 February 2012 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

Glen Johnson - steals toilets from Homebase
A Young - sends nekkid pics of himself over teh internet

Actually spending time thinking about whether this should bar them from the non tossers 11.

pandemic, Friday, 3 February 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

Baines' music blog is reason enough to bar him from the good guys XI

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 February 2012 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

Is that still going?! What's he into these days?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 February 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

Beady Eyes. Probably.

pandemic, Friday, 3 February 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

He hasn't updated since May, but names dropped then include Mercury Rev, Beastie Boys and Kate Bush, plus some things I'm too old to recognise.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 February 2012 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

he (Barton) always struck me more in the mould of comic book characters such as The Punisher – the type whose methods could be repulsive but possess a certain uncompromising allure.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/01/joey-barton-craig-bellamy-bad-boys?CMP=twt_gu

once a weak eye sample (onimo), Friday, 3 February 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

Apparently Cleverley is in the squad for the weekend. Utd are going to walk this now.

Number None, Friday, 3 February 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

Apparently JT's out though. Where's the fun in that?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 February 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

Cole suspended as well. Nani (if he plays) and Valencia could have a good time against whatever's left

Number None, Friday, 3 February 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

good to see the best midfielder in britain back for united.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Friday, 3 February 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

well yeah, that was my point

Number None, Friday, 3 February 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

oh you probably meant Scholes though

Number None, Friday, 3 February 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

This could be one of those twice-a-season games in which they wheel out Paulo Ferreira to remind everyone he exists.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 February 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

untried Cahill-Luiz partnership at CB too, this might not be pretty

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 February 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

Really what I'd like is a nice low-scoring draw that does neither side any favours but the way Chelsea have been playing lately I don't see it. United haven't been very good lately either although winning while being shit is basically what they do.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 February 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

sometimes we lose while being shit

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 3 February 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

sometimes we win while being great

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 3 February 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

older posters may remember this

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 February 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

20 years is quite long enough for an era, I'm fed up with this now

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 February 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

sometimes the only thing that keeps me going is knowing man u will become shit eventually

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Friday, 3 February 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

It did kind of happen between the summer of 2001 and about 2006. I mean, United didn't get relegated or anything (and even won the league in 2003) but they were often out of the running during that period and certainly weren't the 'dominant' team.

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 3 February 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

that was a siesta

Number None, Friday, 3 February 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

so we're 6 years into this era, well that's me cheered

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

see, you don't even know the true meaning of "shit"!

xpost

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

In fairness, neither do Liverpool.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, we were *proper shit* for most of 1986-1990 and I remember that all too well, but that's a looooooong time ago.

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

I don't remember :)

Number None, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

In fairness, neither do Liverpool.

sorry this is a conversation between fans of clubs who have won things

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

Mind you, I expect NV will be along to point out that United's 'proper shit' period of lurking around the relegation zone for most of the season then climbing up to a flattering 13th doesn't really compare with Wolves collapsing from 1st to 4th division and having most of their ground closed down.

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

yeah sorry, i started this.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

hey, i'm looking forward to the Wolves "proper shit" revival over the next few years. groundwork's been done.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

anyway it's relative, but also historically coloured. i can remember United in division 2, and i can remember them being part of the background crowd during Liverpool's mid 70s-mid 80s peak. what i object to most about Sky pundit revisionism is that the era when United or Liverpool were not massive clubs with a glorious history is still within living memory (admittedly for old guys). the portrait of an inevitable permanent place at the top table is at least a lie looking backwards, and tho it is far more likely that the current big clubs will keep that status for the foreseeable future, it's still at least feasible that some kind of financial fuckery plus other factors cd finish any club's dominance.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

who knows what Chelsea's post-Abramovich future looks like? who's to say Liverpool won't spend another 20 years not quite reaching their "natural" expectations?

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

united were not as effectively ugly as chelsea in the mourinho years, that's all. Ferguson just replaced the parts of the team that were <100% effectively ugly and hey presto

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

Who wants to be an MBM-er?

One of you guys has got to do this btw. C&P from the footcelsior thread and we're in.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

That'd be brilliant. We should pick a game, all do it offline, then post up our attempts for the rest to read.

ailsa, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't Local Garda have an interview for such a position at one point?

Number None, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

need to do it collectively, who wd be our luther blisset?

thinking darius henderson

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

that kind of stuff is clearly too clever

Number None, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

darius henderson - g

controversial bildungsroman about a mid level championship big and his difficult adolescence in the lincolnshire pig rustling scene

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

cposts never directly for a mbm position no, have had a sky sports interview. couldn't do a bbc sport one late last year actually cos it was a bit too soon after starting something else.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

http://i44.tinypic.com/1j9rn.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/30mv1wz.jpg

who can judge namitha (toandos), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

Hm, those lines are rather unconvincing imo.

xp you've got to put in for the mbm thing ronan, you'd be great

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

i won't bother applying for the MbM, i don't think the Graun lets you use "cunt" that often

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 08:58 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal game not on telly?

posting cozen stail (cozen), Saturday, 4 February 2012 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

we can only hope

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 4 February 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I couldn't find it a minute ago, what's going on?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

erra bold RVP

posting cozen stail (cozen), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks a lot, Murdoch.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

Pft, there isn't even an MBM. Have Arsenal turned into North Korea?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

firstrowsports, dead? where are people getting their streams these days?

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

Reckon Blackburn will still win this.

Matt DC, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

I am watching on firstrow

Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

This would be a welcome moment for one of you to take a crack at that MBM competition, just saying.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

1314: Arsenal continue to score every 30 seconds, but the real action is off the pitch, where Arsene Wenger has just hit a hole in one on a par 5. Remarkable.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

Free ESPN this weekend btw. The City game is on later

Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=142746&part=sports - think this is by the Myp2p people.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

Reckon Blackburn will still win this.

93rd minute equaliser, natch.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

it's snowing heavily in Stoke, where they are painting the pitch markings blue for the visit of Sunderland

This could genuinely be a must-watch

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

i use http://www.rojadirecta.me/ and wizwig if that doesnt work

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

Awesome free from Pedersen

Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

trrfc free kick

fucking koscielny

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

wtf was chesney doing there

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

Barcaesque

Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

God i fucking hate that new live feed on bbc ugh

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

beautiful team goal made easy by the shiitest defending from venkys

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

OX. Killing it now

Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

Got a horrible feeling this game will see a new shaw'xing.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

THE OX

James Mitchell, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

Wonderboy ax-ox!

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

ok that was legit beautiful

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

Two lovely through balls for the goals

Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

that turn, control and pass from rvp was bergkamp-eque

i fucking love that dude

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

i saw him first

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

"officially the most poorest defence in the league"

James Mitchell, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

RAMPANT ARSEANL IN TITLE FORM

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

Well called James

Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

Got a horrible feeling this game will see a new shaw'xing.

― James Mitchell, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:41 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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a hoy hoy, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

post! against ten men and making chances easily for once, this could be a big score.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

dost mine eyes deceive me? Walcott involved in two goals?

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

I bet it's really annoying sitting next to Henry on the bench

Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

Does anyone else have Rio start talking to them when they open the bbc mbm? ARGH FUCK OFF I JUST WANNA SEE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN I WENT FOR A PISS

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

YES! Scared the hell out of me

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

what happened to the ref? i closed the bbc window in disgust before looking

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

BBC Radio 5 live pundit Lee Dixon at the Emirates Stadium

"When you see a tackle like that first time, you wince. Gael Givet has gone in with two feet. The way the climate is, if you lead with two feet and are diving like that, whether you win the ball or not, you're going to get a red card. Luckily Robin van Persie looks like he's going to be ok."

The way the climate is? What is he on about?

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

economic climate is bad iirc

twitter suggests it was never booked to be on tv because it was supposed to be a 3pm kick off. pushed back to deal w/ victoria line maintenance.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

"officially the most poorest defence in the league"

― James Mitchell, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:43 (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nah, nah: porous

I got Darke's back

MPx4A, Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

Snowing and hence slippery, is that the climate he means? (apologies if it's turned balmy, I'm not watching)

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

now's the time to get hubristic, we can still have a 5-5 here.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

Theo been saving up his performances for today. 10 terrible games for one amazing one.

5-1 with 30 minutes to go against 10 men.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

fucking easy.

venkys look like amateurs.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

If you'd spread these goals out over the season you could've got a draw at Old Trafford

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

Mertesacker fancies one now

Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

Are people actually confused by what he means by climate?

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

The Keith Andrews interview in the Daily Mail purporting to blow wide open the extent of the astonishing mismanagement at Blackburn is pretty disappointing; his main revelation seems to be that they didn't play him very much and wanted to send him out on loan

MPx4A, Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

Sending Keith Andrews on loan to Ipswich: a chilling encapsulation of the malaise slowly destroying English football in the 21st century

MPx4A, Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

They do indeed have Blue Lines at Stoke, but sadly the pitch is still mostly green.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

let's hope for some "massive attacks"

Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

sorry

Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

routine mid-table game against a QPR side that's barely strengthed during the window, can't see what can go wrong today

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

The technical areas at the Britannia are miles away from the stand & dugouts. O'Neill & Pulis look like Captain Oates out there.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

The two combined look like a solitary Oates or collectively they resemble a pair of captains?

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

walking into a blizzard towards certain death sounds like a preferable option to watching stoke tbf

pandemic, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

1-0 and Frimpong carried off, supoib

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

plus my dad on the phone having a freakout cos firstrow's moved, jesus

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

think i'll just go back to bed

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

tried this one nv? http://www.rojadirecta.me/

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

xp sorry, I meant Hall & Oates

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

firstrow is still working - new address

my old man is a total internet illiterate who only got broadband for dodgy football streams and gets all peevish when his dummy gets taken away but can't follow my fucking instructions over the phone

also mick mccarthy is shit

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

sorry man

where did firstrow move btw?

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

google search firstrow

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

I still get the previous address as first result tbh

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

Oh i see n/m

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

cool. dunno how long it'll last.

to make this more fun i've got no voice cos i've got some kind of awesome cold

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

think it would be fair to describe QPR's approach to the tackle today as "robust"

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

djibril OFF?

pandemic, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

oh cissépaws

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

lol pushed Johnson after a foul

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

lol

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

that is one lame sending off

pandemic, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

i say pushed, a little cuff on the back of the head.

not a good idea in front of the ref like

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

commentator "that's the other side of Cisse" like he's done smthg violent or whatever.

pandemic, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

we cd maybe hold these to a mere 2 or 3 nil now.

tho judging by the shitness of the ref i'll have no surprise if he decides to even up the numbers shortly

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Cisse has all QPR's ideas, judging by the Villa game the other night, so there's hope for you yet nv

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

you haven't seen us play i take it

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

Clattenberg's just booking everything now anyway, fuck knows how this ends

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

I enjoyed watching you midweek, matey

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

Haha, awesome snapshot from Fletcher!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

mccarthy's got no more idea how to exploit a man advantage than he does about any other basic football strategy

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder which game motd will have on first tonight?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

fuck we're level.

maybe i shd turn the stream off again and spend the next hour sorting laundry.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

told you

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

mixed feelings about anything that keeps the current regime in favour

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

the fact that we've had more shots this half than we've had for the rest of the season is kinda o_O as well

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

McClean scores. Trap out

Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

xp What, than the season in total?! Or just more than in any other half?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

it was a mild comic exaggeration

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

Doyler :D

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

Oh. Was hoping it was fodder for the awesome stats thread I've been planning (NB may not be awesome)

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

I told you there was nowt to worry about, Mick'll see you right (and QPR are hopeless)

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

qpr are pretty poor at the moment, 10 men or no. mick won't see us right because rather than draw a conclusion from how much better we look when we go for it, we'll be back to playing dour long ball shite with Henry in midfield as soon as he's unsuspended.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

timmy howler

mizzell, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

i'm appreciating swansea's high visibility kit, cuz besides that my stream is 75% white haze.

awesome stats thread could be awesome covering swansea's passing and possession figures alone.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

according to the announcer it was cause americans don't know much about cricket and the deflected cross was a right googly

mizzell, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

2nd half of this has been painfully entertaining

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

Taraabt as ad a right go

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

Congrats NV

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

i don't know what to think. it was an improvement, but against a lacklustre QPR side who played an hour with 10 men and came v. close to a draw towards the end.

as i said, if i thought mick wd draw lessons from this...but i total expect to revert to lumpen type next game. which is Albion iirc.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

HAHA IN YOUR FACE QPR GOOD

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

Taraabt was great second half tho. Again, not something a sensible person cd draw conclusions from.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

BREAKING NEWS

Nottingham Forest owner Nigel Doughty has been found dead at his home in Lincolnshire, the club have said

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 4 February 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

:/ :(

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 4 February 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

"clever" from Johnson

Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

Finally, football in the snow is showing me what HDtv is for. This is beautiful.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

Should I just give up watching Fulham's inept attempt to beat City? I'm unlikely to get much joy here. Tried watching Birmingham v Southampton for a bit, but that was dreadful.

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 4 February 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

At least I got to see some line-sweeping

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 4 February 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

I like that they only swept the fulham area at first, assuming City superiority.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

should have chucked an orange ball on while they were at it

Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

Right, that's it

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

Is Fulham looking poor or City looking good? I haven't watched enough Fulham games to judge.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

'are' dude, 'are'

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

are it is.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

"City have got quite a genteel run of games coming up"

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

Is football better in the snow? The ball pings around nicely sometimes. Formula One would be better in the snow.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

Fulham have been poor. City have been ok, with Aguero being the standout

Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

Haha! The board goes up to show 5 minutes of time added on and the fans start singing "it's fucking freezing, we wanna go home"

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

most of em already have

Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

Snooker is worse in the snow

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

<3 City fans, even if I'm not quite convinced they exist

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)

"that was incredibly brave"

Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

The ESPN app is a thing of wonder

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

Johnson looking real shifty when asked about the penalty

Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

Shearer's MotD justification of the Johnson penalty was just beautiful. "Uh he might have dived but he should have dived in my opinion completely justified that was definitely a penalty." Shitkicker.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 February 2012 09:07 (thirteen years ago)

ref's got to take equal scorn there, tho tbf he was p sure that the foreign lad agwearo went down nice and soft and that big lad jecko eastern european bloke fought they were ard nuts he squealed like a pig when chrissy's only tapped im

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

yeah the Aguero looked a better claim

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 February 2012 11:11 (thirteen years ago)

btw ran into kenny cunningham and RONNIE WHELAN in smyth's in ranelagh last night- kenny's hair looks ok away from rte studios, ronnie's sadly syrupy tbh

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 11:13 (thirteen years ago)

yeah cant help thinking GOD JUST SHAVE IT ALL OFF MAN when watching kenny on rte. not helped by the fact that my hair is in the same state also.

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Sunday, 5 February 2012 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

Good week for the celebrity spotting darragh. Bright lights, big city

Number None, Sunday, 5 February 2012 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

ya

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

still reeling from Jonathon Pearce's
"dzeko is either hot or cold. Dzeko or Hyde."

pandemic, Sunday, 5 February 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

omg

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

that's awesomeful.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 5 February 2012 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

was coincidentaly just coming here to see if anybody could verify whether Andy Townsend had really just said Villa were "the original Jekyll and high tide" on Setanta CA

MPx4A, Sunday, 5 February 2012 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

Bob Keane (don't know why I think this is so funny) playing like a brilliant playmaker in this game so far.

mizzell, Sunday, 5 February 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, the little stepover for Bent was great, he was actually entitled to go 1.0 Keane Huff when Bent decide he'd contributed enough to the move and stood on the edge of the area doing fuck all

MPx4A, Sunday, 5 February 2012 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

Commentators too excited at Demba Ba scoring to notice that Stephen Warnock has sliced Ryan Taylor in half during the buildup

MPx4A, Sunday, 5 February 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

not to mention the fuckin ref

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

seems like it should have cast a bit more of a shadow over the match? the Setanta guys pre-match were harping on the goldfish memory 'current climate' shit about tackles and hyping up the chances of there being another raised-studs violence hoorrorshow controversy in this match, then one happens and nobody cares

MPx4A, Sunday, 5 February 2012 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

Villa have unrecognisably ambitious/competent in possession since about the 30th minute on Wednesday night; hesitant to credit all of this to Bob K but...

MPx4A, Sunday, 5 February 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

oh, no doubt at all that the cunt can transform an attack all by himself, but he's got the lifespan of whipping cream, and it's only a matter of time into each transfer before he'll match the fat content too.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, assuming this is the peak and the final three weeks of his loan will be a black stain on the club's history

MPx4A, Sunday, 5 February 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

see also adebayor, e

Bob keane, joker creator

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

jaysus the entire pub was just silenced by a welsh male choir during the rugby anthems, emile heskey has never had an intro like it

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

fuck!

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

bosh

Number None, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

Young is starting for Utd ahead of Nani

Number None, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

What ought the discerning Liverpool fan hope for out of this & tomorrow's games?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

Rather shamefully I think I'm more invested in City winning the Leagu than I am In LFC finishing 4th, although both would be nice. So Chelsea to win today and us tomorrow.

Chelsea should be embarrassed if they let a central midfield 2 of Carrick/Giggs beat them on their own pitch imo

pandemic, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

the hell is Fergie wearing?

Number None, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

really wanted spurs to sign cisse...

mizzell, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

didn't you hear, the away dressing room is freezing "you could hang meat in there"

The polo dinae have to be white though I admit.

pandemic, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

really hate the Carrick/Giggs "partnership"

Number None, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

Fergie's poloneck thing was bad enough to revive the managerial fashion thread.

gyac, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg875/scaled.php?tn=0&server=875&filename=ymmlz.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640
he looks so pleased with it

gyac, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

I'm nipping out for twenty mins, fully expecting this to be all over (Welbeck 9, Rooney 12) by the time I get back to watch it.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

I know chelsea are poor under AVB but no way do Man U score 21 in 20 mins

pandemic, Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

By Jingo xxp. Part ye olde cleric ruff thing imo, part decrepit's bib.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

Pen?

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

It kinda looked like he was on his way down before the contact. Could have easily been given.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

meireles seems to play so deep for chelsea

any chalkboard analysis of his positions at liverpool vs chelsea kicking about?

posting cozen stail (cozen), Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

i have missed the first 30. anyone want to sum it up in a nult like sentence?

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

rio ferdinand boo'd for having a brother who got called a nigger by john terry. stay classy english football.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

unfortunate yellow for torres.

observer had a stat today that before torres, the last chelsea player to go 1000 in game minutes without scoring for chelsea was petr cech. makes me hope even more for a goalkeeper goal.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

I saw that stat, no way is that right though.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

Hoy: scrappy opening, then United started slicing through Chelsea in midfield, probably should have had a penalty, Chelsea coming back into it but Torres still misfiring and has picked up a really cheap booking

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

jonny evans o.g.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

Goal!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, and Chelsea have scored

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

Expecting de Gea to get the blame as usual

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

Ferguson should sub Webb off at half time, it's not going well for him.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

rojadirecta dead now too?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

de gea has been a bit poo in many ways, but in a game where peter cech is playing he should always be the main target for criticism in the pre-match build up. as he is fucking rank rotten.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

Think Sturridge actually meant to hit it off Evans there

Number None, Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

commentator in saying something interesting alert:

supposedly at highbury they'd stick the heating on full blast in the opposition dressing room hours before the game, knackering and dehydrating them before the games started.

sturridge! lolhny evans.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

Torres has now more yellow cards then goals for Chelsea?

James Mitchell, Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

Don't know how on earth we're losing at the moment

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

Piers Morgan.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

Ferguson should sub Webb off at half time, it's not going well for him.
― James Mitchell, Sunday, February 5, 2012 4:37 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

great passage of play from him just before HT

posting cozen stail (cozen), Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

Ah, it was outside the box. Still a clear foul though.

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

Brilliant strike

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

ma fucking ta

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

I'm glad we didn't buy him, he would have killed Theo.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck's sake, this is ridiculous

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

Nice assist from Rio there.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

That's an o.g.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

blooming awful defending.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck, what's happened here?!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

That's two goals basically deflected into the net now? This is weird because for most of the first half Chelsea looked like they just couldn't cope, especially in midfield.

Matt DC, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/58312000/jpg/_58312114_58312113.jpg

James Mitchell, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

Make up call

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

Fucking soft penalty. Nice to see wazza on the scoresheet tho :D

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

Nah, clear penalty

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

evra played him like a kipper

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

Lol @ Villas Boas berating Sturridge for not tackling, only for him to immediately give a penalty away.

Matt DC, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

Evra's m.o. in the penalty area is so clearly just to hold up his run & hope he gets fouled, because he can't do anything with the ball, Sturridge is an idiot.

boxall, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

Now THAT was not a penalty

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

webb has really repaid sir alex's faith in him in this second half.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

Webb is Utd' best player by a mile.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

COME ON!

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

gutted I didn't make webb my FF captain

posting cozen stail (cozen), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

so two more penalties?

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

¡Fucking hell! at that decision

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

just seen the replay, ivanovic moved out the way! was nowhere near him!

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

Can't see Utd not scoring again here tbh - question is whether they'll concede?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

torres of old would've scored two goals there

posting cozen stail (cozen), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

Poor Nando

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

I reckon that was a penalty, Ivanovic clipped him.

Matt DC, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

FUCKING YES!

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

Anyway, no more goals please.

Matt DC, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

Difference between Cahill's and Hernandez's vertical leaps there was pretty striking.

boxall, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

what a save

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

i honestly thought that was in as soon as he hit it

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

What a save!

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

not bad from the world's worst goalkeeper.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

oh was that handball?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

nah chest i think. maybe a push though by luiz.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

what a game

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

That'll do nicely.

Matt DC, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

cant believe some of those chelsea fans leaving at 3-3.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

good result for liverpool and spurs fans! didnt see what happened for the 2nd penalty, 1st one was very soft

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

Second was softer

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

sup pls am drivin

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

Welbeck had to change direction to find Ivanovic's foot to fall over.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

disappointed Utd didn't win that in the end

Number None, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

howard webb. what a bag of shit

Alan Shearer (ken c), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

couldn't even win the game for united. needs to improve

Alan Shearer (ken c), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

He was all over the place tbf. Not just in Utd's favour

Number None, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

exactly, needs to improve!

Alan Shearer (ken c), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

what's the point of him refereeing if it doesn't result in united win?

Alan Shearer (ken c), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

fantastic goals from cisse and mata today. cisse's has gotta be up there with goal of the season.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

Never in doubt.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

:0

capello tells italian tv that terry shouldn't have been dropped as captaion

:0

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

So now what? Why did the FA cut him out of the decision process?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

p sure the fa could only countenance him being stripped of the captaincy and so just bypassed capello. don't see this statement making any difference.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 5 February 2012 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

I thought we already knew that?

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

(Not specifically the Italian TV bit, but the fact that Capello was dead against it)

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe he'll quit in protest?

John Barnes was saying on 5Live this morning (i think, I was half asleep) that Terry should either have kept the captaincy or been kicked out of the squad entirely. That this mid-point punishment is a joke. Reasonable point IMO.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 5 February 2012 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, but that Capello is publicly saying so is the thing surely?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

john barnes 100%

either 'innocent til proven guilty' and ride out the public scorn (if it comes) or drop him entirely

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

He may yet be dropped entirely. There's no match at the moment, so there's no team at the moment.

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

would have been announced with the captaincy imo

tho capello probably has mandated control of team selection so

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

My thoughts:

1)Torres is a shadow of his former self. He bottled it big time today when he should have scored.
2)De Gea is a fantastic shot stopper - that save right near the end was amazing - but still looks brittle
3)Evra is still good going up the wing, but seems to have forgotten how to defend
4)Ferdinand can't move any more, probably because of his back, which is a shame
5)Terry being stripped of the captaincy is A Good Thing. Capello saying it's A Bad Thing is in itself A Bad Thing. If Terry gets dropped from the England team this will also be A Good Thing, but if he doesn't it doesn't mean that the loss of the armband isn't A Good Thing.
6)I don't really give much of a fuck about England anyway, until a major tournament comes around I don't even watch them or pay any attention to the results, and I care even less about who the captain is. But I don't like John Terry.
7)That Mata goal was incredible

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

otm

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

Stan Collymore tweeting about the odd standards of Capello: it was seemingly fine to take the captaincy away from Terry for allegedly shagging his ex-team mate's ex-girlfriend, but is utterly unacceptable to take it away for 'allegedly' racially abusing an opponent (and the whole incident being caught on video).

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

Despite being a cunt I hate, I feel sorry for EBJT here. Innocent until proven guilty and all that - he shouldn't be getting punished before a verdict has been made. Even if that puts the FA in an awkward position, they have just officially branded dude a racist, which is not cool. They should have let Capello and EBJT sort something out (can't go while the court case hangs over his head and doesn't want to get into a Holland 96 situation based on rumour? frame it as whats best for england? idk)

[Of course I am talking by official powers. Personally I'm fucking happy the cunt is getting his comeuppance.]

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:32 (thirteen years ago)

they have just officially branded dude a racist

No, they haven't

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

Even if that puts the FA in an awkward position, they have just officially branded dude a racist, which is not cool

what they've done is said that the england captaincy won't be given to somebody under official investigation for racist abuse, tbf

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

Why else have they dropped him then, if not for thinking he is a racist who'll split the squad?

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

They've taken the captaincy away from him while the case goes on. If an allegation of racism was made against any of us in our jobs it's very likely we'd be suspended while it was investigated. It doesn't mean we've been pre-judged. (xps)

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

fair enough.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

NBS otm. Keeping Terry as captain serves no purpose whatsovever. Not Capello's (who's an idiot for calling it a bad thing), not Terry's (who's a vile weed and a cunt tbh) and not England's purpose either.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

The captaincy does have some kind of mythical power that tbh I don't really understand. It's a kind of symbolic leading-the-troops-into-battle role, which is objectively ludicrous, but if that's how the players think of it then it's nonetheless sort-of true.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

I do feel this captaincy thing holds way more importance in England than say here in the Netherlands. There's hardly ever any fuss about it, not that I can remember. Here the captain usually is the most experienced player. I mean Van der Sar has been the captain for years and years. I frown upon goalies being the captain but otoh I don't think anyone else would've done more with it.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

Say what you like about JT, but he really is quite suited to it - you'd like to see him charging off into no-man's-land on the first day of the Somme.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

Let's not forget about the toss though xp

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

Ha! xp

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

Capello's presumably pissed cos he was the fool that reinstated him the first time

Number None, Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

When England look rudderless and lacking in motivation, as they always tend to, he can say 'well, it wasn't my fault...the FA sacked my captain'.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

I don't remember England captaincy being A Thing pre-Beckham. I mean, there might have been a regular captain (I honestly can't remember), but I don't think there was any sense of it being a role which existed outside of a match. It was only when Beckham announced he was 'resigning' the role of captain that I picked up on this idea.

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

who will lead the cuntish mutiny now?

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

Despite being a cunt I hate, I feel sorry for EBJT here

You know, I think technically this means "Although I am a cunt that I hate, I feel sorry for EBJT"

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

ha

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

Shearer being captain was definitely a thing - remember him successfully staring down the FA when he whacked Neil Lennon? Platt's captaincy I remember being important too, though not why.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

ah they were captains yeah but i agree with NBS their captaincy was not a huge deal

iirc shearer threatened to retire fully

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

christ that second penalty is a fucking embarrassment

tbf to utd the first shout for sturridge looked good in the first half, but webb ffs

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:11 (thirteen years ago)

avb under pressure

dunno

i mean yeah

but like yknow

hope he gets to the end of next season

but he won't

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

What does the future hold for Andre Villas Boas?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

tbf i am a cunt but my bad, i meant ebjt is a c

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

the following players - who have never officially captained England - have worn the captain's armband during the course of a match when the official captain and vice-captain have been sent off or substituted:

Robbie Fowler
Danny Mills
Emile Heskey
Phil Neville
Jamie Carragher
David James
Gary Neville
James Milner
Ashley Cole

I'd poll these but I've spent my quota on the avb one

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

Could reasonably imagine any of them as captain except the first three

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

fuckin warnock, that better turn into a serious ban

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:27 (thirteen years ago)

tsk tsk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0McFPYTCnXI

multiple xposts
<i>Why else have they dropped him then, if not for thinking he is a racist who'll split the squad?</i>
probably felt they had to be seen to be 'doing something'.

gyac, Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:37 (thirteen years ago)

wait what happened tim howard? studs caught in the turf?

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:50 (thirteen years ago)

what is this

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:52 (thirteen years ago)

a drum

stevie wonder

dion dublin

anaheim

completely lost here

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:53 (thirteen years ago)

In the last three United games I've watched (City, Arsenal, Chelsea), they've been fucking terrible at the back, just not a title-winning defence at all. They miss Vidic so badly.

Matt DC, Monday, 6 February 2012 09:44 (thirteen years ago)

Conceded

Man City - 19
Man Utd - 24
Spurs - 25
Chelsea - 29
Newcastle - 31
Arsenal - 34
Liverpool - 21

Premier League defending mostly gash in 2012

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 February 2012 09:51 (thirteen years ago)

only 2 teams in the top 7 on less than a goal a game

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 February 2012 09:52 (thirteen years ago)

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson criticised assistant referee Darren Cann after the 3-3 draw with Chelsea.

Ferguson claimed Cann missed a foul by Chelsea debutant Gary Cahill on Danny Welbeck and is happy to award penalties against United but not for them.

"They should have had a man sent off in the first half," said Ferguson.

"That linesman (gave) a penalty against us from 40 yards away last year against Liverpool - and he can't see that?"

Ferguson accepted that Cahill's challenge on Welbeck in the 10th minute was outside the penalty area, but thought the Blues centre-back should have been dismissed for denying his striker a goalscoring opportunity.

He said: "I don't blame (referee) Howard Webb. He needed help in that situation and he didn't get it.

"That assistant referee, who's all too happy to flag at Old Trafford for penalty kicks, didn't give them."

James Mitchell, Monday, 6 February 2012 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

and is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for them

Rooney (pen) 58′, (pen) 69′

how much fucking more does he want?

a hoy hoy, Monday, 6 February 2012 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

ach don't mind the cunt

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 11:24 (thirteen years ago)

Can't the papers just let him talk and not report what he says, please just for once? Take him into a room, let him rant, make insinuations, play mind games, all that cal for an hour or even a whole afternoon, and nobody ever finds out about it. All I ask. The world would be a marginally better place.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

can't the FA just apply the rules to him?

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

11h Wayne Rooney
@WayneRooney
Trying to watch super bowl final. How do they call this football. Like watching paint dry. Looking forward to adverts and music.

Never did I dare dream I would ever utter these words, but here goes *braces self*: Rooney otm.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 6 February 2012 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

Nah. NFL is cool as long as you watch on delay and ff to each separate down past the huddle, timeouts, etc

pandemic, Monday, 6 February 2012 12:29 (thirteen years ago)

Fergie otm

Number None, Monday, 6 February 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney lacks attention span to follow technical game shocker

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 February 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

I've got a mate who's recently made a big thing out of abandoning football because of the diving/defensive play/boorishness. He reckons rugby's the thing for its chivalry, but NFL is best of all precisely because of the huddle/timeouts and general razzmatazz that goes with it. It offers so much more to the supporter.

I dunno who he thinks he's fooling tbh.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

i love NFL but am always a bit o_O about guys who like it but not their native sports.

also the chivalrous rugby bullshit never fails to raise a "oh fuck off"

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 February 2012 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

watching wayne rooney play football is like watching a fat moron paint a wall badly, kick the child when he thinks you're not looking, fuck your granny on the way out then getting a bill for £250k

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

fair play to those rugby lads tho they always call the referee "sir" and they are scrupulous adherents of fair play and the corinthian spirit

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 February 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

more so than footballers tbph. On-pitch, from what i can see, it's p obvious?

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

there is a different ethos developed around the games - in some parts of the world - no doubt. i can't hear somebody talking about gentlemanly rugby without my "coded messages for class politics" alarm going off. i'm pretty sure that a lot of shit that goes on in the scrum is as thuggish as anything pro football has to offer.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 February 2012 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

"Good manners" itself is so often a battering ram for a certain kind of privileged cunt to exclude their lessers.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 February 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

That bit at the end of rugby games where the winning team gets to do the equivalent of keeping the ball in the corner for about fifteen minutes is the worst thing that any sport anywhere has to offer imo.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

No wait, some of the shit that goes down during breaks at Wimbledon might be worse.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

u mean Cliff Richard singing?

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 February 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

Cliff Richard singing? Yes, definitely.

pandemic, Monday, 6 February 2012 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

ha xp

pandemic, Monday, 6 February 2012 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

:D

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 February 2012 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

Learn to write like a two-year-old.

James Mitchell, Monday, 6 February 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

The Aaron Lennon Center for Kids Who Can't Read Good and Wanna Learn to Do Other Stuff Good Too

Alan Shearer (ken c), Monday, 6 February 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

McCarthy said: "He's got a brace on and he was carried off.

"On a scale of one to 10 I have got no idea. I haven't got a clue."

mizzell, Monday, 6 February 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

yeah but how's Frimpong?

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 February 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

shit i shdn't have asked

Wolves this afternoon received a massive blow with the news that Emmanuel Frimpong is out for the rest of the season.

The midfielder ruptured the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee in Saturday’s Premier League win at QPR during a fair challenge with Joey Barton, and has returned to parent club Arsenal.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 February 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

during a fair challenge with Joey Barton

...

You just don't expect to see these words together in a sentence do you?

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 6 February 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

nothing about warnock today?

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

ismael how often does run of play update? because it seems like forever since they've had a new article

a hoy hoy, Monday, 6 February 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

^

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

Crikey, so it is ... most unlike them, I'll see if I can find out what's afoot.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

Anyway ... the derby tonight then?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

better not be called off
http://yfrog.com/h3d7uljj

john terje (cozen), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

that could be anywhere

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

it's on anyway

suarez not starting

john terje (cozen), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

that doesn't sound like him

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

tonight's about g bale vs j spearing dalglish knows that obv

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:04 (thirteen years ago)

gnev is killing it

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

capello out he sez

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

his england pick for euro 12 is awes

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

gnev is killing it
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, February 6, 2012 7:16 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

his england pick for euro 12 is awes
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, February 6, 2012 7:17 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm; revelation of the season for me. he has no right being this good a pundit

john terje (cozen), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

his take on ox for england was esp. otm

john terje (cozen), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, just a guy with some thoughts and experience nbd

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

teams are out, kranjcar on right but walker will make width so that's ok, otherwise dawson back in and all's right with the world.

Bench is v light includes khumalo rose luongo and lancaster

No way that liverpool's midfield three of gerrard spearing adam avoids a red

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

The redemption of Nev is the season's most heartwarming story

Number None, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

oh, pat

john terje (cozen), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

What did Neville say? Pass off his insight as your own if you like.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno what he said since tbh i popped out.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

Hell, I'm right up for this. Come on Liverpool!

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

cmon now everyone wants spurs to win this one

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

looking for a hattrick each for bale & modric w/assists by BAE for all 6

john terje (cozen), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

my ilxfantasy team needs bale/ade to have a big night

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

jeeeez

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

Big Andy. Looked a great tackle tbh.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

scrappy start.

king would make at least an everton striker imo

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

going in for silly tackles tho

Carroll showed good pace to get there, didn't know he had it.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

Was a hell of a tackle by dawson

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

ekotto leavin gaps tho it's only kuyt tbf

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

no support for adebayor cm is v cmy

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

meow

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

hilarious brian

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

Bring back Greavesie

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

holy shit at commentary

'Not black so it won't bring dalglish any luck'

Careful now.....

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

Awwww

Number None, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

This is all very polite, threads needs some aggro imo

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

kranjcar lovin the tackles

Walker struggling to sell a dummy to a guy with no defensive anticipation

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

bring bale on for niko

john terje (cozen), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

Spearing should probably stop attempting any pass beyond five yards

Number None, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

bale abides

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

'Not black so it won't bring dalglish any luck'

please tell me this is real

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

yeah

Number None, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

https://p.twimg.com/Ak_wYSWCQAI-LSt.jpg:large

Number None, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

What is this, some kind of tight midfield battle?

Ooh, close.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

tabby alonso

john terje (cozen), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

luka mogric

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

shame it wasn't a canine so we could use Kenny Dogleash.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

amazing challenge there

john terje (cozen), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

cheating manx

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

miaowscherano
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z184/shirike/705113b8.png

john terje (cozen), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

No way that liverpool's midfield three of gerrard spearing adam avoids a red

Parker looking more likely

Number None, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

yeah tbh tho that wasn't a yellow he was practically rolled into a ball when he slid in

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

Crossing's turned shit again, just as Carroll's starting to look on it.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

what did gnev say abt england/ox?

a hoy hoy, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

dalglish wearing a cat tshirt jpg already circulating

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

reckoned ox to be in first xi for euros but keep him the fuck away from the poisonous mire that is the england senior squad until the day the plane leaves

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

actually just leave the poisonous mire that is the England senior squad at home and take some kids who are not cunts and want to play football

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

well, i did allude to his squad which was basically that

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

Insane 30 yard diagonal backpass from Kranjcar just now.

Matt DC, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez on for Kuyt i reckon

Number None, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

no final ball either side, but it's a compelling match imo

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

ref otm

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

Well done ref there

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

adebayor everywhere, in a bad way

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

Should be off. Yellow for diving, then another one for raising the hands

Number None, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

"The longer this game goes on the more you sense Luis Suarez might just have the significant impact on it."

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

special nultistic use of "sense", there

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

Nah xps, it's a game for men, not for pussies

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

nah, no foul for falling without contact imo, ref doesn't have to book him fotr a push to chest either

Bale not looking good though, losing the ball too often. Kranjcar better than he or modric tonight by a distance

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

that looked nasty

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

adam quelle surprise

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

Modric is playing well

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

Bale looks rattled though, Skrtel did a number on him

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

modric is ok but in a 451 there's an onus on him to carry through the middle more imo

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

distasteful chanting at Suarez imo

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

home goal coming

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

adebayor not really trying to hold it up or occupy the centre halves.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

lol gif of that pls

john terje (cozen), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

i thought that was harsh first look, but now i want to know why it's not red, you won't see a more deliberate kick in the guts all year

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

suarez not staying on the field imo

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

if he gets a straight red is that an automatic 9 match ban?

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

downing scores tonight imo

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

https://twitter.com/#!/AnfieldCat

long duk dan (dan m), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

@LiterallyJamie: @WayneRooney A kick in the chest means a kiss on the forehead in Uruguay.

john terje (cozen), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

fuck that, ref. Fuck that.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

yowch, that's a red surely

poor decish

john terje (cozen), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

Wasn't as bad as it looked, but it looked hellish

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

ref's been v good tbf, but that has to be an easy call

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

lucky again

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

That was a penalty I thought

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

could have been but hardly full on the arm and v close tbf

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

ffs never a fk

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

was on the phone half watching, all thinking 'ah Suarez has got on, he'll certainly be looking to put his nightmare month behind him with a positive contribu-[Suarez punts Scott Parker's ribs out his back]

MPx4A, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

nor that tbf, think the ref cancelled them out.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

Bottled it

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

modric, huh

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

ffs, and that

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

aw shit

I'm a min behind

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

modric def not givin 100% again imo

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

first half had 100% passing completion if that counts

mizzell, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

<3 Suarez

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

not trying anything tho, but tbf i think we've been out to contain

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

Ledley should've conceded another peno?

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

didn't think so, again, but not hb by suarez either

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

rly want to see parker bollock luka tbh

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

Alan Green was adamant but he would be xp

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

ffs rose i dunno, at least not at lb i spose

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

jesus, parker has been massive

john terje (cozen), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

Decent game, only disappointed by the crossing tbh. If we must draw, draw like that imo.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

parker has been that all season, we just don't get to smother that often!we were the lesser team tonight but i think that was the plan tbf

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

Sunderland homing in on seventh in a couple of weeks though, better goal difference an' all

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

good game alright, credit both defences- kelly, walker, johnson all good enough for england.

Dawson pwnd imo. Livermore is the discerning punter's rodwell.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

spurs had scored in the last 22 league games before that

mizzell, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

I'll take the point there, really tense towards the end. Parker or Dawson probably man of the match, Dawson was immense. VDV's importance to the team really underlined tonight, both lone frontmen looked very isolated.

Matt DC, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

Dawson, Parker, Livermore, Walker all excellent

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

idk if it's a comment on individuals or ever-decreasing hype cycles in sports reporting in general but Alan Green giving it the "well this just goes to show that Spurs are in no way title contenders" at the end there, when he's filled airtime saying the precise opposite in recent weeks, grinds my gears something chronic

nb I haven't at any point had the slightest expectation that Spurs are gonna finish above third, and wd be happy enough w/ fourth

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

Wtf does Green mean by that? Top side not losing to Liverpool is a pretty good result.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

otm

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

Run of Play is out-of-action for 'a little longer' btw

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

gentlemen, we're talking about Alan Green

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

yah but part of me still sees it as a byproduct of the rolling sports news era where everything needs to be fleshed out w/ longwinded challops to fill airtime

rather than Green just being rong and/or forgetful

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

hard to say with green either way

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

kenny dal is so needlessly confrontational

I know press are the most disgusting savages in the world but seriously

john terje (cozen), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

Green lives in permanent hyperbole mode, whether he's a product of or contributor to the perma-news ethic is sort of moot i guess, the guy is a tool and is clearly employed as such.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

ah i dunno he relishes the defensive interview but i don't ever think he's cunty by nature in them

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

did we pass 10000 messages today

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

y

a hoy hoy, Monday, 6 February 2012 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't see any of this. Did Suarez give Parker a karate kick, am I reading that right?

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

again, i'm going to have to disagree strongly with your take on Dalglish darragh

Number None, Monday, 6 February 2012 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

mebbe, mebbe

G- yeah, a deliberate but disguised kick in the abdomen

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks. That little fucker

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't actually see what he said tonight though

Number None, Monday, 6 February 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

he was taking issue with the interviewer for complimenting his players

john terje (cozen), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

Lol, Dalglish very much in character

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

The redemption of Nev is the season's most heartwarming story

― Number None, Monday, February 6, 2012 7:28 PM (3 hours ago)

This was the 10,000th post, where do you Barclays to make the donation?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

you want Barclays

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

I don't understand either of your posts but i assume i've won something

Number None, Monday, 6 February 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

(Barclays donated twenty quid to Acorns after Marc Albrighton scored the 20,000th Premiership goal at Xmas)

Ismael Klata, Monday, 6 February 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

kenny dal is obviously wilfully antagonistic with the press. when he was at celtic he went as far as to have press conferences in baird's bar on the gallowgate (rough celtic pub) to noise the hacks up.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.craigbellamyfoundation.org/ it is then

Number None, Monday, 6 February 2012 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

http://thefcf.co.uk/2012/02/06/premier-league-liverpool-kenny-dalglish-suarez-banne/12652/

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

His module is clearly failing him again

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4pSfaGzMpyc

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 00:11 (thirteen years ago)

sorry what's the story there? lfc unhappy with suarez ban? who'd have thought?!

Chris, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 01:02 (thirteen years ago)

stirring up a distraction to avoid having to discuss carroll's shiteness. pretty standard stuff tbh

Alan Shearer (ken c), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 01:21 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.minus.com/ibz2dg0uThuYMd.gif

long duk dan (dan m), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 04:59 (thirteen years ago)

he is just dumb as shit isn't he

who can judge namitha (toandos), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 06:18 (thirteen years ago)

oh gross. is that an attempted eye gouge?

kid steel (cajunsunday), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 07:24 (thirteen years ago)

If I look at this Tottenham team now I see some good, good players. The little magician, Modric. The mercurial Dutchman, van der Vaart. The Welsh wizard, Bale. And the outstanding Russian, Pavlyucheckov. Quite what Harry’s problem is with him, I don’t know, because I reckon he’d outscore your Rooneys and van Persies given the right chance and the right service. If it were me I’d have Alan Lennon firing in the crosses for him all game.
http://threeandin.com/2012/02/06/spurs-need-to-know-their-place/

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 09:19 (thirteen years ago)

jesus, the pronouns.

Thought i saw suarez with his hands in someone's face right after he came on, didn't look that bad at the time.

Oh well, another ban. Glad he's learning.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 09:22 (thirteen years ago)

Worst cunt in the Premiership by a mile.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 10:03 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe once Terry retires and Barton gets relegated.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 10:05 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.picgifs.com/soccer-graphics/soccer-graphics/john-terry/soccer-graphics-john-terry-528327.jpg

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 10:07 (thirteen years ago)

I think that kick on Parker was an accident though. He was aiming for Ledley King.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 10:36 (thirteen years ago)

oh lol

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 10:38 (thirteen years ago)

After being unsure I'm starting to warm to Suarez.
We were okay last night.

pandemic, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

you were the better team, but tbf we were playing for a point and had injuries.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

don't think spurs had a single shot on target

Alan Shearer (ken c), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

suarez got parker square in the guts and skrtel got in a great shot on bale's shin

Alan Shearer (ken c), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

bale had a one-on-one saved

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

see second post

Alan Shearer (ken c), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

unless you meant stroking the ball gently against reina's feet was a touché

Alan Shearer (ken c), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

Redknapp verdict can't be long now, surely?

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

'Arry's based on the South Coast? Could he be sharing a cell with Chris Huhne at some point I wonder?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

http://timesnews.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/ronnie.jpg

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

Piers Morgan: '@GaryLineker_I currently air in 200 countries/territories - how you getting on? #SmallPondMinnow'.

Gary Lineker: '@piersmorgan I think the 2 world cups I played in probably edged that'.

mizzell, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

otm

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

They've had Morgan on American TV twice this year when Fox has showed EPL games before the NFL semis and the Super Bowl and both times I have wanted to see him drawn and quartered.

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

I think pawning him off to American telly was one of the best things we've done as a country recently.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

otm, still haven't got rid of him entirely tho

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

Just to hazard a guess, is he an Arsenal fan and has he been one since about 1996 or so?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

he is an arsenal fan dunno how long he has been.

fucking hate that every one of his football tweets gets reported as news when i'm just trying to see who our next injury crisis is.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

Piers Morgan: '@GaryLineker_I currently air in 200 countries/territories - how you getting on? #SmallPondMinnow'.
Gary Lineker: '@piersmorgan I think the world cup that I shitted myself on telly in probably edged that'.

― mizzell, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 14:58 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Alan Shearer (ken c), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

If you or I fucked up in our jobs like he did we'd never work again. But no, it's been the making of that cunt.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

He's an Arsenal fan (for how long I know not) and he's actually not that bad at the pre-game/halftime commentary he does, esp compared to the usual American style of sports color, but I simply want him dead, preferably after an agonizing bit of torture similar to the one he inflicts on hapless TV viewers.

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

yeah there are a lot of American pundits I hate that I would prefer to Piers

long duk dan (dan m), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

like Taylor Twellman is an insufferable pretty boy asshole but at least he kind of knows what he's talking about when describing what happened on field

long duk dan (dan m), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

McManaman and Barton are ok on American TV, even. I just find Piers so loathsome a creature.

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

never had a problem with McMetc. whenever I seen him.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

Jury sent home for the night

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

Would it be contemptuous to quickfire poll it?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

it would be insulting to ilf if you didn't do it

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

"I have had some fantastic black players, absolutely magnificent black players, and with every one of them I have enjoyed my working relationship with them."

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

http://wearethenorthbank.com/england-international-hawked-to-arsenal-by-agent/

Number None, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

That's interesting for all sorts of reasons. Is that site/writer trustworthy?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

No idea tbh

Number None, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

At the time I didn’t want to name the player but having been inundated with requests to reveal who the player is, I’ve decided to do exactly that.

this isn't really a great sign of trustworthiness

mizzell, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

i really like sturridge. i thought the best outcome of the modric chelsea thing would have been getting sturridge in return.

mizzell, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

Heh xp, that is rather flimsy reasoning. On the other hand, it's a very specific account.

I was wondering about a Sturridge-Rooney-Welbeck front three for the Euros, I think it could work. Trouble is it'd need a particularly disciplined midfield, which assuming Gerrard is fit might be a stupid ask.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea's most prolific goalscorer agitating for a hefty payrise, extremely transparent. Given what he must be earning compared to Torres and Drogba it's hardly surprising.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

milner-parker-barry?
xp

mizzell, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

don't rate Barry but the other two wd be ok

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

Gerrard-Parker-one other. Who should not be Barry. Milner's probably best option, though a younger Scholes would've been ideal.

In turn you're needing a lot from your fullbacks though, and I'm not sure that's realistic at all.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

wilshere or livermore, give youth a chance. Tho thudd obv?

Tho tbh i'd have chamberlain ahead of rooney there

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

why would man city's daniel sturridge wanna go to arsenal?

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

              Hart

Richards Smalling Lescott Baines

Gerrard Parker Jones

Welbeck Rooney Sturridge

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

Gerrard has never performed for England, why would he start now?

Cashley still worth his place imo

O-C in there for Welbeck maybe

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

is King recovered enough to go?

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

bent, young, defoe ahead of rooney

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

c'mon dudes, it's obviously
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Clubs/Club_Home/2011/8/8/1312823901358/Tom-Cleverley-could-start-005.jpg

Number None, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

think Rooney in a front 3 wd actually bring something

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

zamora, ameobi, davies, heskey ahead of rooney

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

walker, johnson, richards ahead of etc.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

zamora, ameobi, davies, heskey ahead of rooney

― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac)

ive had enough of your wazza bashing!

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

It's like white noise to me

Number None, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

That front three would never work, there's no real width in there and if you're going to play with only the fullbacks providing any real wide threat then you need a very strong passing midfield and England don't have one.

Reckon Oxlade-Chamberlain will end up making the squad. Walcott won't, yet again.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

rip jack, heaven needed someone to beat up taxi drivers back home while his friends went to poland

between thudd and cleverly you have a good passing midfield. capello wld never in a million years go for it tho. (parker behind, sturridge and aoc on the wings, sturridge and welbeck switching between wing and cf).

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

has "Thudd" even played for Spurs this season?

Number None, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

yeah seriously, he is a pile of shit, let's just finally all let the dream die.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

11-12 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 3 0 1

lol he has played 3 games. what happened to thudd? i just assumed he'd been playing.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

been injured for ages. he's also growing his hair out for charity. won't cut it til he scores a goal.

mizzell, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

What's it look like? It's only now I realise that in my mind his real hair is like Larry David's.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

He must have the slowest growing hair in the world, he hasn't even played in months.

England badly need Cleverley to be really good, don't they? Tom is never going to be fast or mobile enough for an international-quality midfield.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

not clear if the hair growing started as soon as he went out injured.

mizzell, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

I think between Cleverly and Wilshere and Ravel Morrison England are ok in terms of creativity for the next ten years. Replacing Parker (who it seemingly took forever to find in the first place) seems a bigger issue.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

just read about Morrison's tweet today. Well rid.

Number None, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

what he say?

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

“crack head ? Go suck out u little faggot your a guy that talks if u see me you try slap me I'm in manchester every week.”

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah you'd think West Ham would want him to relocate.

[what an odious human being he seems to be.]

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

Who was he 'tweeting' at? I hope Rooney, or maybe Piers.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:24 (thirteen years ago)

just some twitter nobody who was having a go.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

ffs thudd's been injured all season you savages

A player with thudd's touch, vision and striking ability would be more useful behind england's strikers than gerrard, if 451/433 with nippy wingers is a thing

Lennon, btw

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

Which Jones are you starting on left mid?

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

Phil

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

Actually think Parker-Huddlestone-Modric could have made a great midfield but we seem destined never to actually see it. Parker basically compensates for all Huddlestone's flaws.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

pps

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

Whatever, we all know the England team that turns up in Poland and Ukraine will be the worst for years.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

parker behind thudd, screening, modric around thudd, orbiting. It's a v beautiful thought.

Thudd is 6'4" and therefore must play behind a smaller dude tho, it's the rules

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, duh, the big guy who plays for Man U. Hasn't he been injured recently?

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

Not badly I don't think but yeah, a lot of projection onto injured players itt

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

king
dawson
walker
thudd
parker
lennon
defoe

could all make the plane, depending on injuries

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

you forgot Bale

Number None, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

not sure at what stage of that scale re rooney alternatives i started messing, but y'all do remember he's out for the first few games right

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

Ashley Young was the second player you named

Number None, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

in a three, tbf, in a three

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

yeah he's been awful though

Number None, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

looking at wing/striker options (ie guys that can do both like sturridge, young, wellbeck) and fullbacks, it's clear england have more than enough 7.5/10 versatility in the squad for a change. Lack of reliable centre fwd/backs is the likely weakness this time

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

what happened young btw

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

I honestly don't know. He was an integral member of the vintage Utd side of August '11

Number None, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

god be wit de days

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

dunno if it's Young or Fergie tho tbh, he wasn't playing on the reg before he got injured was he?

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

He was. Valencia was injured though

Number None, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

He was an integral member of the vintage Utd side of August '11

Ah, glory days....

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

young on the left at the start of the season tho

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

I explained this before but Nani changes sides depending on whether Young or Valencia is playing

Number None, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

see now ilx has me worried that i can't scold a fukn donegal man for being uppity

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

we've certainly suffered our share of oppression.

Number None, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

don't kid yerselves the brits hardly bothered with ye iirc

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:28 (thirteen years ago)

Comparative suffering under British rule in Ireland; a treatise on modern EPL support legitmacy

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:30 (thirteen years ago)

they took fermanagh but not donegal

gyac, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:31 (thirteen years ago)

the road only went that far tbf

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:34 (thirteen years ago)

shouldn't have stopped in kinnegad for that burger

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:35 (thirteen years ago)

Who, if any of the English old guard should be retained? I've pretty much washed my hands of the lot of them, if only just to start anew.

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

cashley

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

cashley

gerrard's game has improved a little imo?

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:41 (thirteen years ago)

Gerrard looked decent last night i thought. He'll be injured though

Number None, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:42 (thirteen years ago)

centre mid of gerrard parker ain't bad

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:42 (thirteen years ago)

As lothsome as he is, I kind of agree that Cole is still worth it. Any defenders?

centre mid of gerrard parker ain't bad

Who plays right, then?

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

lennon, walcott, AOC?

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

And is there any way a foreign manager can argue that leaving Rooney out for the sake of the team's general flexibility, whether tactically or due to injuries, isn't going to get lynched?

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

i mean, i don't know that any of them is a natural rm in 442 but none are bad options (obv everyone projecting like mad on AOC but kid looks good)

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

but everyone hates Rooney. And it all depends on how the first two games go really

Number None, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

He seemed like he had more, hmm, heft to him than Walcott does in that game last week.

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:48 (thirteen years ago)

You have to pick your squad before you go, though, right? What's the number, now? 23?

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

can't drop rooney tbf, it would be counterproductive because of the frenzy.

Tactically it should obv be trialled from now til then tho

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:50 (thirteen years ago)

oh right, you mean out of the squad. There really aren't enough decent strikers around to consider it imo

Number None, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:51 (thirteen years ago)

it would be counterproductive because of the frenzy.

Yeah, I can see that being an issue

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:54 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal are eyeing a move for Daniel Sturridge, 22. The Chelsea hitman is believed to be unhappy with his wide role.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 08:23 (thirteen years ago)

can't help but feel it's a character flaw in a player to be pissy about where they play

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 08:24 (thirteen years ago)

subtle

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 08:25 (thirteen years ago)

xp y & n, tbh- if sturridge feels he's better as a central striker and isn't getting a shot cos lol torres, i could see that causing discontent. At a less political club he'd be #1 on merit.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 08:27 (thirteen years ago)

i just think players need to play where they're told - tbf to the lad Sturridge i guess he has been but this carping has been going on for a while now, also to me it speaks to a lack of flexibility, son you've got to play where you're needed and fuck knows Nando wd be even less use out wide

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 08:29 (thirteen years ago)

Can see him being #1 at Arsenal once the cheque for RvP clears in August.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 08:29 (thirteen years ago)

it reminds me of 10 year-old kids who all wanna be the CF cos it's the only 10 year-old kid glory position

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 08:29 (thirteen years ago)

think Arsene shd have other priorities as long as RvP's there but if/when he goes Sturridge wd be an excellent signing

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 08:30 (thirteen years ago)

you've got to play where you're needed btwn transfer windows.

Just sayin, i can see where he'd be unhappy- maybe not transfer unhappy but footballers egos are kinda weird imo

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 08:31 (thirteen years ago)

yeah a lot of them are and this is my point. think they need to be treated like Hitchcock treated actors.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 08:36 (thirteen years ago)

most managers don't have that power

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 08:58 (thirteen years ago)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cWPVTJOIGlE/TzI-9Ihc_jI/AAAAAAAAH9w/e4fE9LRrViE/s320/Barclay.GIF

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 09:25 (thirteen years ago)

daniel sturridge went to chelsea??

Alan Shearer (ken c), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 09:36 (thirteen years ago)

Wants to move to a middle of the table position iirc.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 09:45 (thirteen years ago)

Not getting played there ahead of Torres is some bullshit though and if I was him or Lukaku I'd be more pissed with every game it happens. If we were discussing managerial ability to oft come with confidence boosting the other day, AVB is working on a Rafa-esque scale with keeping these dudes behind Nando.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:41 (thirteen years ago)

Not sure he has much choice, does he?

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:43 (thirteen years ago)

He happily dropped him for Drogba pre-acn, why not drop him for their best scoroer this season?

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:44 (thirteen years ago)

again, no. he's got to play the 50m world superstar in this case. chelsea not a normal club in these circs.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:45 (thirteen years ago)

drogba != kids

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:46 (thirteen years ago)

well then he doesn't have the balls to deserve the chelsea job and should be fired immediately

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:46 (thirteen years ago)

the last dude who had the balls was fired for not playing abramovich's striker

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

Possibly he doesn't think Sturridge is all that, and I'm sort of with him on that

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

Sturridge is 22, been playing in the league for 5 seasons and is roughly at 1 in 2 this season. he doesn't exactly =! kids either.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:48 (thirteen years ago)

Sturridge yes, and tbf he plays a lot; Lukaku no, he's done little yet to suggest he's any good.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:48 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, do people not like Sturridge? I've always been really impressed with him and presumed everyone else was as well.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:49 (thirteen years ago)

there's that too- whatever about the balls required to face down an omnipotent owner, he's surely not about to be dictated to by a stroppy 21 yr old on a long contract

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:49 (thirteen years ago)

maybe he hadn't realised that daniel sturridge had gone to chelsea

Alan Shearer (ken c), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:49 (thirteen years ago)

Re: Lukakau - It seems as if Roman bought him specifically as an afterthought, as in "What other club could spend £18m on an 18 year old and just forget about him? Man City don't spend like us."

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:51 (thirteen years ago)

Sturridge is good but he's no Fernando Torres.

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:54 (thirteen years ago)

that sentence broke my head so... umm what? wanna elaborate?

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:56 (thirteen years ago)

Steve Morison is good but he's no Fernando Torres. And Norwich are happy with it being like that.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:57 (thirteen years ago)

True. That reminds me I had an Arsenal fan, who (bizarrely) thought I was a fellow Gooner, loudly bemoaning the future of the Arse (this was before the 7-1) and he kept saying, "If Chelsea offered Torres for Walcott, I'd take him!"

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:01 (thirteen years ago)

well yeah but it's shit for shit

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

would anyone turn down torres for walcott?

Alan Shearer (ken c), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

tbh i think i prefer theo. at least there are grounds for improvement, whereas torres seems destined to be sold to turkey/russia/china/do the rounds and never play at a high level again

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

Hmmmmmmm, think Torres' career is recoverable tbh. Not sure that Theo's ever going to improve that much.

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:21 (thirteen years ago)

theo has grounds for improvement as much as carroll has grounds for improvement tbh

Alan Shearer (ken c), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

xpost

Alan Shearer (ken c), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

I think Theo + Carroll can both improve!

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:24 (thirteen years ago)

one should hope so!!

Alan Shearer (ken c), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:25 (thirteen years ago)

read a few more books, study algebra

Alan Shearer (ken c), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:26 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah Carroll should be fine if he stops being a dick. [Theo kinda needs to become a dick to improve.]

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:26 (thirteen years ago)

i think he should practise shooting. and crossing.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

Moaning Arsenal fans have made me warm to Theo tbh, he's like The Doors, he was so annoyingly overrated befoe that's he's in danger of being underrated

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

ffs

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:31 (thirteen years ago)

sam you'd turn any easygoing fucker into ronan so you would

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:34 (thirteen years ago)

my personal opinion is that he goes through periods of both being V GOOD and V BAD, like 8 games of one and then the other. Sometimes earlier in the season when he was really good and finally convinced people to pay attention to him was when he started his v bad period. I felt like it was an Invisible Boy situation - he was great until anyone actually started paying attention and then he fell apart again.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:35 (thirteen years ago)

sam you'd turn any easygoing fucker into ronan so you would

― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:34 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh come on, you love it

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

suedey and james and them are too easy going for you to hate arsenal fans, i've got to pull up the weight.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

AOC has rendered poor Theo obsolete + unloved :(

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

it's, and i've said this before, n1ck uptoeleven i feel sorry for

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

so it's come to this: pity from a spurs fan.

what's worse is that I'm happy to take it.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

sitting in the vale, weeping tears of gratitude & shame

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

'Arry: Innocent as the day he was borned!

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

how the fuck he pull that off?

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:51 (thirteen years ago)

never in doubt

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

give the man a break he loves his dog to bits

Alan Shearer (ken c), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

thank god Pele turned up

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

is that a crime? xpost

Alan Shearer (ken c), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

"In making your deliberations I would instruct the jury to pay particular attention to the impending departure of *consults note* Mr Fabio Capello, the current manager of the England Association Football team..."

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

Not sure I can wait till after the Euro's for the disaster that will be Redknapp as England manager. It will be delicious.

pandemic, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

a laughing jury never convicts, I told you

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:08 (thirteen years ago)

It's where Ian Huntley went wrong.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

jesus matt

Redknapp would take england to a semi-final, playing the right way. The players and press would work for him. Don't see how he'd be a disaster tbh

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

yeah right. a disaster compared to what, exactly?

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

Alf Ramsey in 1966

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

We won't get to the q-finals of any tournament under him imo.

pandemic, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

then again i'm in a minority in that i don't rate him. at all.

pandemic, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

You've got to the q-finals under worse managers... I think?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

Depends if you think Erikson is a worse manager I guess. I don't as it happens.

pandemic, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:20 (thirteen years ago)

I forgot that the really shit England managers - Keegan, McClaren, Taylor - never got anywhere near a quarter final. Whatever happened to Glenn Hoddle btw?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:22 (thirteen years ago)

erikson was a success tho

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

paddybarclay Patrick Barclay
Enjoyable chat with Gray and Keys on Talksport. Good of them to let me express my sorrow that decent people were upset yesterday.
44 minutes ago

dude knows how to pick his audience

once a weak eye sample (onimo), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

I think I'll start accepting personal gifts instead of a pay cheque.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

guess we have to watch what we say about this now

unfuckingbelievable

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

get to that level and why not?

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

HM Gov shd probably stop wasting money on trying to convict fraudsters, it's notoriously difficult to get a guilty verdict

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

xps when you think about it, it's just like marking stuff as 'gift' on Paypal to avoid their fees ie sticking it to the man

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

Considering the tax bill we're currently struggling with, I'm going to be under immense pressure at home to get a dog now.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

dogs are probably deductible

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

Who claimed offence at the Heysel thing btw?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

redknapps qc was gerrards too iirc

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

what did patrick barclay say ffs

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

someone tweeted him saying that you can't get lower than working for the murdoch press, he tweeted back that being a a crowd that crushes 39 people to death is worse.

pandemic, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

worse=lower

pandemic, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

tbf he did have to set the bar pretty low to get beneath taking cash from murdoch

pandemic, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

don't think he reached it though.

Alan Shearer (ken c), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

and fuck knows Nando wd be even less use out wide

That cross he got to Mata was genius against United, tho

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

torres torres torres

just dunno about the guy.

not a cf, prob better on the wing, but ideally point man in a counterattacking team

Chelsea aren't that. Arsenal not a bad shout, I suppose. Bit of a drop for him, but merely reflecting his own performance too.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

so, next spurs manager...

Chris, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

pardew.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

Poyet

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

dicanio

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

Van Basten

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

xp lol

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

Tottenham are too big now for taking a chance on these guys, and have had their hands burnt by disappointing foreigners too many times. I'm struggling for actual biggish candidates though, unless Moyesey gets his chance at last. Lambert would be an interesting punt.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

mourinho

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

At a Premiership level - would take Moyes, Brendan Rogers would probably be the best fit but is unproven at the level we're at now (then again, so was Redknapp, so are most of the others), Lambert maybe.

Might happen but would be a horrifying disaster - Mark Hughes

I do wonder whether Mourinho has been eyeing the Spurs job, assuming Mancini wins the league and that the United job isn't coming up for a few years.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

srsly?

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

What other big Premiership job is likely to come up any time soon? City maybe, Chelsea maybe but not gonna happen, otherwise?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

would love to see Lucien Favre from Borussia Moenchengladbach. His teams always play a high tempo attacking game and has had great results: led Hertha Belrin to fourth place a few years ago, has turned around Gladbach in a simialar fashion to Redknapp at Spurs, brought in when they were relegation threatened and a year later has them in a champions league position.

mizzell, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

jm is like the ultimate megaclub manager, hed sooner go back to inter or chelsea than piss around with some arrivistes with daniel levy controlling expenditure

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

like his second season transfers at inter were awes but the first yr was 35m on rapecini and quaresma

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

he needs to break many more eggs than he uses

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

Maureen for England over 'arry, though, surely?

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

Bet he'd jump at it if it were offered as well.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I mean he's probably still more likely to sit on his hands and wait for Mancini to fuck up but who knows really.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

Mourinho for Man Utd

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

Mourinho's going back to Chelsea imo. With their new stadium plans he'd have the chance to be Chelsea's Wenger AND Chelsea's Mourinho, too tempting to turn down. There's also a certain lack of class about the idea which is very Mourinho.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

Hughton

the pinefox, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

vs Mitchell Thomas, Gary Stevens

the pinefox, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

Ginola

the pinefox, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

Glenn Hoddle, just say it

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

Gus Poyet

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

feel like a more conservative manager, bit of steel about him type of thing, is what we'll go for if harry leaves us established top four.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

George Graham it is then

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

Klinsmann with Sheringham as his assistant.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

Warnock could probably get England promoted to the semis

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

whichever of the millibandsisn't labour leader for the england job

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

How about a swap with England for Capello?

Ancelotti would've been perfect really.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

I think Mou prefers London over Manchester, but could see him going to either Spurs, Arsenal or Chelsea tbh.

Is he still pals with Abramovich?

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

i think aspiring to mourinho is at least as realistic as dropping to lambert fwiw

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah surely Mourinho and Abramovich absolutely hate each other and getting Jose back after over four years would basically just be Roman admitting defeat?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, I for one can't see it happening. Could see him go to Citeh if they fire Mancini, but honestly I think Mou wants to go back to London.

That he will leave Madrid after this season seems a given tbh, no matter what he wins or loses there.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

feel like a more conservative manager, bit of steel about him type of thing, is what we'll go for if harry leaves us established top four.

― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, February 8, 2012 12:08 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

MO'N?

mizzell, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 18:21 (thirteen years ago)

established top 4? when's harry going? in 3 or 4 years?

pandemic, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

twice in three, with lfc and arsenal fucked

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

Is the assumption that the 'not guilty' verdict means everything's spotless and the FA will have no qualms about taking Harry on now? Because I think that's probably fair enough.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

They'll have to do a lot more due diligence before they can safely say everything's spotless.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

Due diligence? The guy loves his dog, what more do we need to know?

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 18:47 (thirteen years ago)

What, specifically, was it made Venables untouchable?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

cps vs english fitba slebs is p much an away win every time

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

capello has resigned

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

Loves dog, makes juries laugh, what more does FA want?

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

capello feeling like a frumpy wife

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

How about a swap with England for Capello?

One step closer.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK.

See you in the Europa League dudes.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

sherwood at sevens ffs

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

Been away tonight., Saw Guus Hiddink was trending topic on twitter. Hoped it would be about him going back to PSV. #disappointed

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

Presumably if Capello thought this group of players had the faintest chance of getting to the last 4 or better of the Euro's he would have swallowed his pride and stayed on.

Marcotti on the radio said that the whole "John Terry is still my captain" quote from Capello's RAI interview was completely fabricated by the English Press #surprised

pandemic, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

Marcotti was on the BBC, being very damning of the FA in the immediate aftermath. Couldn't fault him tbh.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

the era of Rafa Benitez, Spurs manager will be an amazing one for ILF.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

would be amazing to be the first unblinkered rafa fan but it's early days yet and if that happens it happens i'm just focused on training my players on fm2011

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

What programme was Marcotti on? Would like to listen to that on the iplayer if possible.

Chris, Thursday, 9 February 2012 00:38 (thirteen years ago)

He was on 5live tonight somewhere around 7.20-7.50 I think. Just a v short interview with him and also Ian McGarry. Apparantely he was also on Monday night as well but I missed that.

pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 00:51 (thirteen years ago)

*apparently*

pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 00:51 (thirteen years ago)

don't think capello's come out of it badly, tbh? Got to take a principled exit out of a job that he probably wasn't ever going to get right- not a slight on him, i might add, a swap would suit me nicely.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 00:54 (thirteen years ago)

it's perhaps unfortunate that the principle could be taken as "i like racism" rather than the "i pick the team" it was probably intended as.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 9 February 2012 01:08 (thirteen years ago)

'i'm getting the fuck out of here' was the more obvious one, tbh, but yeah ok.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 01:11 (thirteen years ago)

i've kind of missed the whole furore but i think Capello has been a bit of a dick tbh

Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 01:19 (thirteen years ago)

obviously no one would like being taken to task by the FA but still

Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 01:20 (thirteen years ago)

principle of getting the fuck out of there is admittedly a good one.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 9 February 2012 01:28 (thirteen years ago)

Just in case we'd forgotten his Arsenal tattoo:

Born in London's east end in 1947, he supported Arsenal as a boy, spending his weekends on the terraces at Highbury.
http://www.channel4.com/news/harry-redknapp-footballs-cockney-rebel

James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 06:35 (thirteen years ago)

His whole weekends?

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:06 (thirteen years ago)

they was ard times son

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:09 (thirteen years ago)

shivering on the terrace at ighbury waiting for the all clear to sound

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:10 (thirteen years ago)

bat people was friendlier then too, you could leave your front door open and when you got ome somebody would've slipped a undred grand totally legal payment under the doormat

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:11 (thirteen years ago)

they only ever bunged their own

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:11 (thirteen years ago)

the dear old queen mam used to cam dahn the ighbury all the time shaking ands and anding out bags of sand to teary-eyed street urchins

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:15 (thirteen years ago)

Big fan of Lega Nord as well iirc.

Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

When he scored for Italy at Wembley in 1973, he dedicated it to Italian immigrants he said were treated like "waiters" by the British.

Interesting

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

Mourinho is a bit of right winger too, yes? (xp)

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

Mourinho is reportedly very right-wing but he never actually talks about it?

Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

Mourinho's father was a goalkeeper in Portugal's national squad. More significantly, the family's fortunes depended on the stability of the fascist regime. Mourinho's great-uncle owned a factory for canning sardines which, in the days before burgers and pizza, were a patriotic staple of the national diet. After the revolution, the cannery workers expropriated the business; Setubal, the coastal town where Mourinho was born, acquired a communist mayor, and his parents - stigmatised as bourgeois - had to move out of their big house. This sudden, humiliating demotion left Mourinho with unregenerately right-wing views

Stevie T, Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

Sardines? The monster!

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

(that autocorrected to 'The mister!' for some reason - phone crossing line to sentience imo)

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

"In Spain everything works well... We should follow their example."

Cap at the vanguard of lazy punditry imo, this was before they even won anything.

once a weak eye sample (onimo), Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

Franco was right

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

He was only trying to help his pet monkey

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

trainings ran on time

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

Some lips he had on him too

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

It's really easy to lose sight of how big communism and fascism still are in Italy especially and Spain. People seem to speak more often in those terms than simple right and left, certainly out in the country anyway, grudges are still borne.

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

Don't the ultras of Roma & Lazio have communist and fascist sympathies respectively?

gyac, Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

i never really thought about how much more capello earned than a midwife until i saw it graphically depicted in piles of cash as a direct comparison on sky news every ten minutes

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

awesome! is everybody who works for Sky News on a comparable pay scale to a midwife then?

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

when did midwives become the standard unit of salary btw?

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

both roma and lazio have predoimantly right-wing ultras i think. most well known italian left-wing ultras are atalanta and livorno though i don't know about communist sympathies.

mizzell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

when did midwives become the standard unit of salary btw?

from birth, one imagines

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

midwives on 35k not fuckin bad imo

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

i'd swap

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

i mean babies been getting born a long time before midwives arrived, and somehow it worked, but england national team have had a manager since day 1 just sayin

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

england should go with a 'selection committee for the lols like the #1 ranked cricket team. wait, cricket is still done by committee yeah? Or is it a manager now?

pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

iirc historically the england national team didn't have a manager originally. think Winterbottom was the first, mid 50s? selected by committee of gentlemen before then or sump'n

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

Although Walter Winterbottom was appointed as England's first ever full time manager in 1946, the team was still picked by a committee until Alf Ramsey took over in 1963.

says Wiki

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

might as well bite the bullet and do it X-Factor style

Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

suggested that already in the other thread, wd be excellent if arry ad to sing

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

so

there's an argument that it is a job best done by an english/british manager

right?

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno if there's an argument that it's best done by an english.

i think there's an argument that it probably ought to be an english, but that argument might lead to hilarious discussion about what constitutes a "developing football nation"

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i kinda assumed that the team has to be of one nationality so the manager does too unless you are a 'developing football country' and need outside expertise.
england going with a foreign coach always seemed to be not quite playing the game, or a comment on our position in world football.

pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

the team has to be of one nationality

It doesn't though

Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

trainings ran on time

lol

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

xxp

yeah exackly think we might qualify as tactically inept enough to be a developing nation

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

comment on our position in world football.

Actually...

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

Or what NV said

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

half the teams in the world seem to have their own naturalized Brazilian guy nowadays, not that it helps usually

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

Sardines? The monster!

WRONG! It's canning sardines that's monstrous. Fresh grilled sardines are exquisite.

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

i meant rather that the english media are pervasive/xenophobic enough and the english players are powerful enough that the introduction of any extra complicating factors would be disproportionately problematic

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)

multixps - Roma's traditionally a leftist club, no? Insofar as that's a useful description of football fans. Also aiui the traditional choice of Rome's Jewish population, which wouldn't sit particularly easy with right wing ultraism (though yes, things are different in Italy)

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

i meant rather that the english media are pervasive/xenophobic enough and the english players are powerful enough that the introduction of any extra complicating factors would be disproportionately problematic

this is a decent argument. remember when capello took the job and we thought he'd put those surly prima donnas in their place? that went well.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:49 (thirteen years ago)

redknapp as boss takes out player power- he's v good with cuntish talent- and media, to a large extent - they're in his pocket- and he's english and he's not moronic tactically/selection-wise and he's experienced. he'll keep it simple and positive and that'll keep the fans happy- even when results go against you it'll be swashbuckling ave-a-go stuff.

tell me what other boxes need ticking, tbh, or who else will tick em

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

when results go against us it won't be "oh swashbuckling expressionism" it will be "found out at this level to be tactically naive(see keegan)"

pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

don't think i've ever denied that arry could make a good fist of the england job. obviously what won't go away are systemic problems underneath. what happens once arry's finished?

also i wouldn't assume that he won't be indulgent of the usual suspects - remains to be seen imo

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

he's been indulgent of that type of player in the past, justified by the results for the most part.

capello was indulgent of the usual suspects without ever getting a performance from them imo

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

such a disspiriting mess, the england team. can't think of the last time they strung 2 or 3 coherent, convincing performances together.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

early sven? maybe hoddle actually

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

i only consistently watch the tournaments so i'll take your word

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

Actually, come to think of it, Englaland could use a decent captain.

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

98 or 02 tournament performances were good iirc, maybe even 00 but i didn't see a lot of that one. don't have any recollection of a string of convincing performances under either capello or schteve

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

04 was good until Rooney got crocked

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

maybe 3 matches good?

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

well croatia away was v good, don't know what the 2 games following that were though.

pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

2000 was keegan i think, england were terrible iirc lost to romania and portugal i think

pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

yeah 2000 was comical, late Neville fuck-up iirc but can't remember which one

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:18 (thirteen years ago)

phil, gave away a penalty.

pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:21 (thirteen years ago)

thought that was group 98 wc tbh

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:22 (thirteen years ago)

nah, 98 was Owen wonder goal and Beckham sending off

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:23 (thirteen years ago)

no that was le saux fucking up and us conceding late on after owen equalised. keegan was doing the commentary and had just said "there's only one team that will win this now" (i presume he meant england)

pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:24 (thirteen years ago)

xp

pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:25 (thirteen years ago)

we beat colombia in last group match then lost to Arg

pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:25 (thirteen years ago)

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/419969_250175661723813_160886773986036_571051_1731275724_n.jpg

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:42 (thirteen years ago)

:D

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't we have that exact same picture on here yesterday?

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

such a disspiriting mess, the england team. can't think of the last time they strung 2 or 3 coherent, convincing performances together
....
i only consistently watch the tournaments so i'll take your word

The last time I can remember watching any England qualifier / friendly was seeing the last ten minutes or so of McClaren's umbrella disaster, so I'm far from qualified to answer this - but I had the impression that qualification for the last WC under Capello was pretty impressive?

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:54 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno i surf on my phone at work, apologies

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:54 (thirteen years ago)

xp no, it was efficient and competent but hateful to watch for the majority of the times iirc

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:54 (thirteen years ago)

I'm prepared to believe you, given that England were incompetent and hateful to watch in SA, and given that I couldn't name a single one of England's group opponents under Capello apart from Croatia.

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 10 February 2012 00:00 (thirteen years ago)

A piece on City's away form - "City’s struggles started with a 1-1 draw at Anfield on 27 November. Since that day only Wigan, QPR and Fulham have taken fewer points away from home, and all have played five games to City’s six."

Must say I hadn't noticed the pattern, and am a bit shocked by this. Big game against Villa then, who are dreadful at home iirc.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 10 February 2012 09:29 (thirteen years ago)

Haven't looked but would guess that their lead is pretty much the same at the top as it was on 27 Nov though.

So after tmrw LFC haven't another League game until March?

pandemic, Friday, 10 February 2012 09:50 (thirteen years ago)

fuck international weekends

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 February 2012 09:54 (thirteen years ago)

Neither we do. Six games scheduled for April though, and that's not taking into account any cup run.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 10 February 2012 10:00 (thirteen years ago)

matthew stanger piece in f365 today so determined to portray redknapp as an idiot that it's .... idiotic, tbh

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 11:23 (thirteen years ago)

fuck international weekends

― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Friday, February 10, 2012 10:54 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Seriously. They make me all 'old man yells at cloud' IA.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 10 February 2012 11:23 (thirteen years ago)

i think, tbh, that attitude has come about because of what's being served up. I don't remember that ever being an attitude that prevailed under eg venables, hoddle. Under sven, nope?

Under staunton, trap- yes. Under kerr- sometimes. McCarthy, not always.

Comes back to football as a aesthetic entertainment imo. If you are compelled by loyalty to watch shite, you'll resent it very quickly- particularly if

i) the shite interrupts weekly portions of non-shite

ii) the same ppl can deliver either shite or non-shite according to whim

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

I don't remember that ever being an attitude that prevailed under eg venables, hoddle.

Premiership wasn't as all consuming then?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 10 February 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

I think I've always hated international breaks

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 10 February 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

both epl & international football were better, tbh, i dunno about all-consuming, but where and how does a change occur there?

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

International games weren't breaks 'till a few years ago, they were just squeezed in at midweeks. Which was fine, really. I can see the appeal of a decent break for qualification double-headers - if more than a handful of such games actually mattered - but a break of a fortnight for a friendly is the absolute worst.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 10 February 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

I've got a lot invested in this tweet

rioferdy5 Rio Ferdinand
When Welbz + @tomclevz23 bring their 1 2s I see in training to the PL its going to be OVER for opposing teams, trust me!! #SameWavelength
21 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YJ1qIq-v3A

Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

i think, tbh, that attitude has come about because of what's being served up

I was thinking last night about the travails of watching Scotland. I think most assume it's torture because the SPL is shite and we don't produce any players anymore but the torture started long before that - when we still had some good players! It started with Andy Roxburgh and his slide rule UEFA coaching badge hyper cautious approach which Craig Brown carried on with plenty of cowerin' and timorousness but not enough sleekitness. By the time Brown was finished we didn't have any good players anymore and we were almost as scared of our own shadows as Brown himslef was. Since then a couple of comedy managers in Vogts (who actually got us to a playoff) and Burley and then the grim Siege of Derry tactics of Smith and McLeish. Now Levein, nice guy, intelligent (wears glasses), puts out a team against the Czech Republic with no forwards, we lose + we're fucked once more, plus ca change...

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 10 February 2012 12:08 (thirteen years ago)

otm

I could recite a similar litany of tragic persecution but we'd be a right clichèd pair of moaning celts then eh?

International football is about more than scorelines, and imo it's about a lot more than qualification. The 45 mins against france where we played football was worth every point or three earned in the two years before or since

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

I'd settle for being able to moan about what you've got to moan about tbh

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 10 February 2012 12:33 (thirteen years ago)

^ this

But then I'd moan about that too.

ailsa, Friday, 10 February 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

England under Venables was 2 years of friendlies followed by a tournament where England were outstanding in one game, good in one, and decent in one.

pandemic, Friday, 10 February 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

matthew stanger piece in f365 today so determined to portray redknapp as an idiot that it's .... idiotic, tbh

Harry Redknapp? The guy who's spent two weeks swearing to his own idiocy under oath?

once a weak eye sample (onimo), Friday, 10 February 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

a big improvement!

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think that being unable to read and writes constitutes 'idiocy' but whatever.

Matt DC, Friday, 10 February 2012 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

http://images.45cat.com/norman-wisdom-dont-laugh-at-me-cause-im-a-fool-hmv.jpg

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 10 February 2012 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

Unable to read, write, use a computer or use a mobile phone while managing an organisation with a turnover of £120m may not be "idiotic" but the guy was playing on his own ignorance in court, still 'e's got the lads 'avin' a go an' that's all you can ask for innit.

once a weak eye sample (onimo), Friday, 10 February 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

if the article was a snide go at arry's laughable-but-effective court schtick, fine, but it's not.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

'e's got the lads 'avin' a go an' that's all you can ask for innit

In the context of the national team, maybe it is. If you can rule out being genuinely good enough to win things, and can take a certain degree of competence as given. England haven't gone out 'aving a go since 98 (2004 maybe, and the recent lols do massively cushion the blow imo); Scotland for much longer than that. They're generally not swashbuckling sides to watch, at least Arry might bring bring a bit of that from Spiders.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 10 February 2012 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

Need a manager with *passion*, is what I'm saying.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 10 February 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

if the article was a snide go at arry's laughable-but-effective court schtick, fine, but it's not.

ok I'll read the blimmin thing :)

once a weak eye sample (onimo), Friday, 10 February 2012 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

ok if I'm reading the right thing the first three quotes are directly lifted from the court case:

http://www.football365.com/f365-says/7499868/The-Nagging-Logic-Of-Harry-Redknapp

"I write like a two-year-old and I can't spell."

"I couldn't even fill a team sheet in."

"I am the most disorganised person, I am ashamed to say, in the world."

once a weak eye sample (onimo), Friday, 10 February 2012 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

yep, he's starting with that as if that was a reasonable assess,ent of arry's intellectual/tactical ability

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

"I am the most disorganised person, I am ashamed to say, in the world."

That could be a quote from Albert Einstein

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 10 February 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

Oh yeah he obviously camped all that stuff up in court but even if it's true that doesn't equate to idiocy. I'd agree that he knows how to speak brain-dead-footballer in the way that someone like, say, Villas-Boas might not. I'd say he's pretty astute in terms of giving a player a job to do and making sure they can do it without actually confusing the hell out of them, yer thicker footballers are more likely to take tactics on board if they're not thinking of them as tactics.

He can still make dodgy substitutions and he's never been good at making a squad game work, mind.

Matt DC, Friday, 10 February 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

Worked for the Sun for 18 months and didn't know he wasn't being paid? There's laying it on thick and then there's actual thick. I'm in some weird other world here were ILF hasn't been ripping the absolute pish out of 'arry's "simplicity" for a decade.

That article credits him with exactly what Matt is saying - he speaks fluent footballer and keeps tactical fuckeraroundery to a minimum to get results.

once a weak eye sample (onimo), Friday, 10 February 2012 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

even Harry might have a job not confusing this guy

'It was the second day, and I made a run inside from my position out wide on the right. Suddenly Mr Capello started screaming at me at the top of his voice. Training stopped and everyone stared at their feet and looked embarrassed.
'"Theo," he was yelling. "I will kill you if you come inside like that again." Despite Mr Capello's outburst, I never quite knew what was required of me. I was confused.

Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

not suggesting that theo hasn't got a football brain surely

pandemic, Friday, 10 February 2012 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

Would say 'Arry's 'dodgy geezer' persona has been pish-ripped rather than any simple-mindedness

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 10 February 2012 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

true

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 10 February 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

hes neither brilliant nor stupid, tho his affects play up the latter

probably not unlike aragonés, tho more politic

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 10 February 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

The yokel "simpleton" who outsmarts the supposedly sophisticated townies/princes etc is like fairystory 101: in fact it's probably in Aesop also.

mark s, Friday, 10 February 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

ya but there is the countervailing and more specific archetype of the cockney with the commercial sense and cunning and various other things that seem vaguely like deracinated jewish stereotypes

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 10 February 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

tony pulis seems the most convincing embodiment of yokel triumph in english fitba today

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 10 February 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

yes, yokel's a bit of a red herring: just meant that "simpleton not so simple" is like an archetypal folk fable

*attempts "PROPP FORWARD" joke: abandons attempt*

mark s, Friday, 10 February 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

tony pulis seems the most convincing embodiment of yokel triumph in english fitba today

Holloway has the accent but not the triumph

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 10 February 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

Pulis has never seemed especially simple even in the world of football management.

Matt DC, Friday, 10 February 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

'Arry more Delboy than plonker... let alone Trigger

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 10 February 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

pulis seems the kind of decent, competent, 'gets the job done' fella that would balaclava up and hosepipe you to death under cover of darkness over a farm border dispute or something

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

Andy Roxburgh and his slide rule UEFA coaching badge hyper cautious approach

this reminds me of a question i've had for, um, most of my life - wtf exactly is a slide rule pass?

Merdeyeux, Friday, 10 February 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

a very precise one.

mizzell, Friday, 10 February 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

along the ground to an angled run imo

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

see i thought that but then i often hear commentators using it for any pass along the ground, which iirc is better known as a 'pass'. dunno why i gave any credence to commentators.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 10 February 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

along the ground to an angled run imo

― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, February 10, 2012 3:35 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

these are the ones where the precision of the pass is most evident, imo. plus, if it exclusively describes angles, it should be called a protractor pass.

mizzell, Friday, 10 February 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

not if the target is moving imo

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

It's not about the angles. It just means a really accurate through ball

Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

must also be dead straight obv

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

why? slide rule /= ruler

mizzell, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

it's still straight though

Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

there are circular slide rules

mizzell, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

Fair enough. They're not the 'classic' type though

Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

http://redflagflyinghigh.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/pls3.jpg

john terje (cozen), Saturday, 11 February 2012 10:28 (thirteen years ago)

:D

it doesn't actually work tho, i came out as an everton fan first run thru

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 February 2012 10:30 (thirteen years ago)

or maybe it's trying to tell me something?

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 February 2012 10:30 (thirteen years ago)

the man u trail is great tho

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 February 2012 10:32 (thirteen years ago)

Micah Richards closes Twitter page after 'racist abuse'

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 11 February 2012 10:37 (thirteen years ago)

I'm West Brom or QPR depending on whether or not I want a rich owner. I think I'll go with the Albion. I will attempt to give a shit about them for a wee while.

once a weak eye sample (onimo), Saturday, 11 February 2012 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

Reina, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique, Spearing, Henderson, Gerrard, Downing, Kuyt, Suarez

pleased about the lack of Bellamy, and Carroll oddly.

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

kuyt merits a place imo. spearing always a worry, he has a problem in that he's fucking shit.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

I'm man city

john terje (cozen), Saturday, 11 February 2012 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

I was Wolves but i was lying to myself

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

De Gea, Rafael, Ferdinand, Evans, Evra, Valencia, Carrick, Scholes, Giggs, Rooney, Welbeck

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 11:51 (thirteen years ago)

the saviour of English football is on the bench

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

scholes

john terje (cozen), Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

seriously

john terje (cozen), Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll kind of looks like he's going to cry

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

our shit midfield versus your shit defence

pandemic, Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

wait giggs is gonna be on the wing? Did he play wide vs Arsenal or is he usually CM these days?

pandemic, Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

Basically never plays on the wing any more. I'm surprised Park isn't in there tbh

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

ooh, Fergie getting a little dig in

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

nice. suarez refused evra's hand.

mizzell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

wow

suarez is an actual dick

john terje (cozen), Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

fucking hell

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

gonna kick off betw him and evra now blatantly

john terje (cozen), Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez is such a stupid fucking cunt

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

ouch at that rio fall

mizzell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

what a cunt

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

odds on suarez having something borderline offensive written on his undershirt?

hope he scores

john terje (cozen), Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

don't know if I'll be able to bring myself to watch kenny dal's post-match interview

john terje (cozen), Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

ffs Suarez, never crossed my mind that's how it would play out

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

the hero of klanfield's been quiet so far

john terje (cozen), Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

Fucking Suarez

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K73o8Fu36Ro

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe in Uruguay people don't shake the hands of the blind

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

didn't notice before ferdinand refusing to shake suarez' hand

john terje (cozen), Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

disappointing that he was the only one.

mizzell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

I take it there's nothing happening in the actual game?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

evra skinned like he wasn't even there

john terje (cozen), Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

Utd put together one really good move that ended with Scholes heading straight at Reina. That's about it

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.minus.com/ijphyDHRlEFyF.gif

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

Police have seized all copies of Red Issue on sale today (apparently at the request of MUFC) and any supporters with the fanzine have been refused entry because it supposedly incites racial hatred. The offending page was a spoof of the Liverpool t-shirts in support of Suarez as a Klan hat.

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/eT8FW.jpg

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

top punditry from Jamie there

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

what is redknapp on about

john terje (cozen), Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

The new bbc live page is the absolute worst btw

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

"take that back please"

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

spearing

john terje (cozen), Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

ROO

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

ffs missed the first five mins of second half.

Summer Slam! (Ste), Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

cheering for roo today because he's lost the cuntoff

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

^^ otm

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

textbook post-whistle cunting there by rooney

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

i haven't been watching. has it been any good or is it just lolcunts?

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

it's not a boring game

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

what are they singing?

Summer Slam! (Ste), Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

we know he's a cunt
but rooney's worse

john terje (cozen), Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h388/Hasselhoff99/suarezbirthday.gif

James Mitchell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

suarez scores

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

no tshirt

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

burning cross with "why always me" written on it though

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez hat-trick now would make my day.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool's midfield bossed by a couple of pensioners and Michael Carrick

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney should have had a hat-trick too. Amazing strike after that perfectly legitimate tackle from Evans

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

well bugger.
congrats to nbs and #0.
our midfield is just the worst.
i love suarez.

pandemic, Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

Dalglish still being a dick. It seems that whoever's in charge of public relations at Anfield has been on a mission to make Liverpool look as bad as possible over the last few months.

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

what'd he say?

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

wow

great interview from fergie

john terje (cozen), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

"I never knew Suarez refused to shake Evra's hand. I wasn't there, I never saw it. It's contrary to what I've been told. I think you're bang out of order to blame Luis Suarez for anything that happened here today. The majority of the fans behaved very well today, with a bit of banter between them."

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

man utd are awful cunts but kudos to fergie there

john terje (cozen), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

https://twitter.com/andersred/status/168349620588650497
Difference between Private Eye and Red Issue?

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

seriously?

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

seizing all the magazines seems ridiculously out of order

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

the whole handshake thing is just a media farce for the scandal of the day, who gives a shit if he didn't shake his hand? they hate each other and want to win. shake hands after a game maybe, not before.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

if i'd inadvertently racially abused some guy but i didn't mean to and i wanted him to know that i was sorry for inadvertently racially abusing him and i didn't want him to think i was the kind of guy who thought it was cool to inadvertently racially abuse people then maybe i'd want to give some small conciliatory gesture maybe

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

don't worry, they probably shook hands after the match

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

Rather than wearing a t-shirt in support of myself when I've been found guilty of racial abuse

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

(xp)

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

suarez has consistently said that evra told lies about him and seems to believe this, so why the fuck would he shake his hand?

pandemic, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

xp if i knew i hadn't and the world was telling me i had then i'd want to stick up for myself.

Chris, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea being fucked by the Pien

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

we are the world

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

it's not gerry adams and ian paisley, it's a bunch of mostly cunts in a game of cunts trying to win. whether luis waggles his hand up and down for a photo opportunity makes no diff whatsoever, whatever his views are.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

i mean, nv at pains to use 'inadvertently' there, and that is as kind as an impartial onlooker is going to get- suarez admitted use of a potentially offensive term, ffs

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

i'm sure suarez couldn't have thought the lack of a handshake would cause this damaging and divisive issue to roll on even further, yeah.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

Look, let's just be glad that the better team won and Wayne Rooney reasserted his position as the best English player of his generation

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

i can't believe people are still defending suarez.

dalglish is a fucking disgrace.

gyac, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

eh can i get a result/rundown btw :)

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

Pogrebnyak has scored for Fulham

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

it's delusional to think it makes no diff whatsoever, ronan

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

Feed the nyak

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

i can't believe people are still defending suarez.

I know, that 115 page report states quite clearly what exactly happened.

Chris, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

no it's not, it's just a fucking sky sports talking point either way, everyone randy for the camera panning down the line to see what happens. maybe he just wants to get at evra before a massive game. he served his punishment for the actual racial incident, he doesn't have to like evra afterwards. he'd be booed and slated regardless of what he did so why not be the villain anyway, not shaking evra's hand is not a racial incident.

xpost.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

lol chris

gyac, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

2-0 now. dempsey got the second.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

i'm not saying it should mean something. i'm saying it's disingenuous to pretend it doesn't.

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

or delusional

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

what does it mean then? that everything is okay? that suarez is not a racist? that he's sorry?

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

wtf at bbc live feed.

Just come in :

12:40
We are just five minutes away from kick-off at Old Trafford, which is jumping. Patrice Evra is all smiles as he talks to the mascot in the tunnel, ahead of leading the United players out.

Summer Slam! (Ste), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

you'll get that. With the BBC

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

Valencia has been the best player in the league since Christmas. btw

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

love ferguson on his high horse about racism, the homophobic prick.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

fair point. everything is not ok, we all know suarez is probably a massive racist, and he's already made clear he's not sorry.

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

Martin O'Saviour's Sunderland seems to be going with the tactics 'foul the shit out of Arsenal'.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

Valencia has been the best player in the league since Christmas. btw

― Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:46 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sessegnon surely?

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

fair point. everything is not ok, we all know suarez is probably a massive racist, and he's already made clear he's not sorry.

you could actually answer my question but sardonic attacks is all this thread has offered really.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

it's not happening in a vacuum and it's not restricted to this one incident between Utd and Liverpool either. fact is, Dalglish is clearly backing Suarez to the hilt on the matter so he feels ok with petty shit like this and prolonging it. but there's also the fact that micah richards has just deleted his twitter account due to racist abuse, stan collymore and others frequently receive racist abuse for discussing racism within the game, the tom adeyemi incident...what the attitude of dalglish & suarez says, is it's ok to minimise racism, it doesn't really matter.

would we still be discussing something that happened in October if Evra had received an apology?

gyac, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

none of the above has anything to do with a stupid fucking handshake.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

i just don't know what to say when you seem to think accepting that both players and teams are all cunts is the end of it.

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

ok, would you have liked them to shake hands, or are you seriously not bothered at all?

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

guys, we're all forgetting that Chelsea are getting beat by Everton.

Summer Slam! (Ste), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

not hugely bothered, do you think evra still wouldn't have tried to clean suarez's clock in the opening 5 mins? it's a meaningless gesture, players should shake hands after a game.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

what the attitude of dalglish & suarez says, is it's ok to minimise racism, it doesn't really matter.

wtf. so it's nothing at all to do with the fact they belive he's innocent and that there was no evidence whatsoever? did you lot actually, ya now, read the report?

Chris, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

and Steve Kean's Blackburn are putting a hurting on QPR

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

please. when suarez and lfc have repeatedly smeared evra and basically called him a liar, refusing to shake his hand is a pretty explicit 'fuck you'.

gyac, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

oh no, an explicit "fuck you" before a derby game. heavens.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

suarez thinks evra's a liar so obviously he's not gonna shake hands with him. seems pretty clear to me.

pandemic, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

Dalglish has come out of this the worst. By far

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

if there was no evidence whatsoever then, just to be clear, do you think this is a conspiracy? and if so, who is responsible?

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

Chris, you can believe your player is innocent - i'm pretty sure he admitted saying what he said, but never mind - and you can protest that innocence long after your protest is going to change anything, if you want to. you could still do those things whilst at the same time continually pointing out that racial abuse, witting or not, is utterly unacceptable. Dalglish and the Liverpool ownership could do do those things. they aren't, tho.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

i wish i had your ennui about this sort of thing ronan

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

still waiting for confirmation that anyone of you have read all 115 pages of that report btw.

Chris, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

i have

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

xp I agree re: Dalglish. to my mind there's no way this would have gone this far without LFC & Dalglish's attitude.

gyac, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

yes, i read it

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

writing this whole thing off as "everybody loves to get at Liverpool FC, tsk banter eh?" is pretty undermining of the seriousness of the alleged offence

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

xposts. dalglish has said that racial abuse is unacceptable, the club have said so in their statements, there was outrage and condemnation from the fans wrt the alleged Adeyemi incident.

Chris, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

xp I agree re: Dalglish. to my mind there's no way this would have gone this far without LFC & Dalglish's attitude.

and without a weird trial process that took an eternity to begin.

xpost who's writing it off as that? i'm solely discussing the handshake snub.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

i have not, because i dont really care. cunts are cunts and sometimes they may also be racist cunts.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

dalglish used "banter" in post match interviews after both games, which seemed kind of flippant.

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

conspiracy? no, not really. the committee believed evra over suarez (although they did let him watch the footage whilst he made his statement iirc). They decided some of Suarez evidence wasn't credible. Doesn't mean they were right, or wrong.

xxp

people seem outraged/concerned over the handshake, i wouldn't expect them to shake hands

pandemic, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

I honestly think Kenny is a man out of time

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

eh are you saying that dalglish said racial abuse was 'banter'? p.sure he didn't

pandemic, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

the laws surrounding banter really need tightening up

xpost pandemic otm. credit to evra for offering, and suarez more of a villain for snubbing, but not a big deal either way. it's just "not very nice".

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

dalglish used "banter" in post match interviews after both games, which seemed kind of flippant.

yeah wrt the fans. thought we'd been over that nonsense. fucking hell.

Chris, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

or unsporting

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

if i'd been accused of racially abusing a co-worker, and i hadn't done it, i wd probably be pretty aggrieved if a tribunal decided that i had. however aggrieved i was i think i'd probably go out of my way to convince my co-worker i hadn't done it. maybe shake their hand if it was offered to me, that kind of thing.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

presenter on my (spanish?) stream is hooo boy a+ ws even if i couldnt get a decent printscreen

http://i43.tinypic.com/2yoemhv.jpg

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

they're not co-workers though tbf. They're at "rival firms"

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

nah, different divisions of the corporation that is the EPL, innit?

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

except in suarez's opinion the co-worker knows that's not what happened.
xxp

pandemic, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

i just think if i wasn't racist i'd try really hard to create a public perception that i cared about not being thought of as a racist

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

"I never knew Suarez refused to shake Evra's hand. I wasn't there, I never saw it. It's contrary to what I've been told

does nobody find this a little odd? what, and who, has told him otherwise?

Summer Slam! (Ste), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

the voices in his head

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

maybe he wants the public opinion to be 'blimey he seems really really fucking aggrieved'
xxp

pandemic, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

which i don't think it will be

pandemic, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

but if you felt your name had been dragged through the mud then fuck it, why should he shake someone's hand to make us all feel good about ourselves because we're tough on racism and we've moved on. if people can't entertain the idea that suarez may be innocent then bollocks to them.

Chris, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

xposts to NV.

Chris, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

x-post to nv, perhaps... but that's so far from the WHAT A FUCKING CUNT madness upthread, for not partaking in the sky sports anointed pre-match handshake.

(there's a newer ferguson interview where he says suarez is a disgrace and should be sold, cos he is clearly such a bastion of liberal views himself)

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez's general character counts against him

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

i like how the benefit if any doubt being extended to suarez somehow = 'evra is definitely a liar'

You realise this is what you're doing, lads, right?

How'd you expect ppl to respond to that?

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

going to read the lolnultreport and 7m extra time? what happened?

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

eek. i wasn't saying dalglish said racist abuse is "banter". i know he was talking about the fans.

i'm saying using a word like that to describe the fallout from an allegation of racism in 2012 is really stupid.

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

"they're all cunts" is obviously mostly factually correct. but some PR gestures, empty or not, make a statement about where yr priorities lie.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

er where have i said evra is a liar??

pandemic, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

i like how the benefit if any doubt being extended to suarez somehow = 'evra is definitely a liar'

You realise this is what you're doing, lads, right?

How'd you expect ppl to respond to that?

who are you talking to?

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

exactly nv.

gyac, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

i like how the benefit if any doubt being extended to suarez somehow = 'evra is definitely a liar'

i've not said evra is definitely a liar. i'm saying a process that glosses over one man's inconsistencies and pounces on another's because they feel like making an example of someone is a joke.

Chris, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

It's clear suarez believes he's a liar. I wouldn't presume to know.

pandemic, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

When a football match did break out, it was Rooney's contribution that proved decisive and ensured United moved back to the top of the table ahead of Manchester City, who play at Aston Villa on Sunday.

never change nult

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

ronan, i guess my point is: this (the "suarez affair and its fallout") isn't all sky news-manufactured concern troll outrage

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

because they feel like making an example of someone

so the FA weren't interested in whether Suarez was guilty and wd have found him guilty unless the evidence was totally conclusively against?

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

There was 3 minutes injury time a hoy hoy. Dunno what game Nult was watching

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

'accepting the verdict and moving on' ftw imo

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

huh it says +7 on the bbc website.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

obligatory complaint about how shitty bbc sport pages have become

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

ronan, i guess my point is: this (the "suarez affair and its fallout") isn't all sky news-manufactured concern troll outrage

i agree, but i really think the handshake is not a major deal and is a typical thing the media seize on.

x-post don't get also why not bothering to shake his hand has to be seen as prolonging it, maybe he was purelry trying to agitate to gain an advantage today.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

What a shit pitch Sunderland have.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

weird thing is it was Reina who caused the flare ups at half and full time. Maybe he heard something in Spanish?

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

baldito

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

irl lol

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

omg amazing strike from sunderland, saved.

xp i think that +7 means the total of both injury times from each half

Summer Slam! (Ste), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

it's language like that

because they feel like making an example of someone

that is what rubs me the wrong way about #LFC's reaction. it diminishes the seriousness of the allegation. afaict that isn't because they don't think racism is serious. but it does suggest a lack of self-awareness.

the FA panel found him guilty — and sincerely believed he was guilty by the standards of proof under which they operated. maybe they were wrong. but that's not the point. once they establish that in their own mind, to suggest the way they set the punishment was based on "feeling like" "making an example" of someone diminishes the allegation.

i am glad they made an example of someone they thought had done that. and judging by the report, they didn't make that example without thought.

i mean, what's the alternative to "feel like making an example of someone"? a 1 match ban instead of 8?

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

LG I don't think you *can* discuss solely the handshake as if its an isolated incident occurring in a vacuum as if it's unconnected to everything else that's happened.

Matt DC, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

back to the football. Was Downing actually a worse signing than Carroll? Utterly anonymous

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

Downing shit... I have faith in Carroll. Adam should have started. Spearing was never good enough and never will be.

LG I don't think you *can* discuss solely the handshake as if its an isolated incident occurring in a vacuum as if it's unconnected to everything else that's happened.

I agree, but equally I don't think you can brand that one moment of "fuck you" a racial incident or a continuation of the previous.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

I can't see us scoring in this game. Sunderland just a bunch of thugs not trying to win and I half expect one of their players just to throw a punch at any moment. Gonna end 0-0 is my guess.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

so the FA weren't interested in whether Suarez was guilty and wd have found him guilty unless the evidence was totally conclusively against?

panel told to ignore hernandez's opinion on use of the spanish language, while accepting comolli's view that '10 times' is a figure of speech (despite him saying in this case evra should have been more precise). evra allowed to view video footage while being interviewed. evra changes his mind as to what suarez calls him. no video evidence. no witnesses. they accept suarez's admission that he used the word, but decide to add that on to the other 6 alleged occurences to make 7, instead of considering that it may be one of the 6. the only peope who know what happened are suarez and evra. the reporting on this has been misleading and mischievous. it's an absolute farce.

Chris, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

back to the football.

Chris, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

sunderland!!

Summer Slam! (Ste), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

did he say it
could evra reasonably have taken offence?

It's a farce alright

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

Mertequacilli

James Mitchell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

is that a yes, chris?

caek, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

Think Kenny definitely fucked up not starting Bellamy. There were a couple of moments in the first half where Kuyt went up against Rio and his lack of pace told.

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

FUCK

Mertesacker goes down in pain while in total control of the ball, looks like he fucked his hamstring or something, and McLean just strolls up and grabs the ball and scores 1 on 1. Hope Merte is ok, that looked painful whatever it was. Easiest Premiership goal of the season.

Being stretchered off.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

Stadium of Light pitch needs a retrospective ban.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

McClean! Trap out

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

darragh all you're doing is just dipping in to have an angry raging go at this, it's such faux-rage.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

Everton 2 now

Summer Slam! (Ste), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

..and Arse equaliser

Summer Slam! (Ste), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

Capello in

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

In off both posts!

James Mitchell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

Rambo brings it back! This pitch is comically shit.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

We're back in this shit hole next weekend too.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

What the hell happened at Swa-Norw? Fuck that fucking bbc live thing btw, it's in shambles

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

ronan i'm on the phone actually, but tbf i am only able to scan and post quickly so you have a point.

You want me to come back with full responses later? :)

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

what the fuck was trap thinking

gyac, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

All their players have been kicking at our heels, 'staying in' too much in the air etc. all game, it makes sense that the pitch was their 12th man on Merte. Scored an own goal on them w/ Ramsey's tame shot tho.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

wait for Gilesy's take darragh

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

i'll prob be in the pub then but i might come in drunk and have a go so yeah possibly. depends how tired i get and possibly whether ireland beat france in the 6n.

xpost to dmac

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

Deems I hope that romantic weekend is working out for you, spending time on here talking about how Suarez is a cunt or not etc ;)

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

Did the ref card Rosicky for a Verm tackle?

James Mitchell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

did he say it
could evra reasonably have taken offence?

i know i said back to the football but ffs i'm not saying that evra didn't take offence. whether or not offence was intended i think suarez should have received some sort of ban, a telling off and a warning. but to come to 7 occurences when there's no evidence is incredible.

Chris, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

wonder where Utd would be in the league if Scholes hadn't come back. Thought provoking stuff

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan in front, if QPR could score a couple this cd be the best Saturday Wolves have had all season

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

Did the ref card Rosicky for a Verm tackle?

― James Mitchell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:37 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

for dissent post-tackle i think.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

Arshavin comes on, place yr bets on a late Sunderland winner now.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

posting/reading btwn shops tbh lbi

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

that's reassuring :)

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

boooom

Summer Slam! (Ste), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

to think i watched this and read you lot go in circles over an old debate instead of sleeping

wait, THIERRY! WOO! FOURTH HERE WE COME!

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck these cunts.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

avb must surely be gone after this

gyac, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

Quote from Dalglish earlier in the week

"People are already speculating on the pre-match ceremony, but from Luis's point of view we have spoken to him and I know he will shake the hand of Patrice Evra and the other Manchester United players before the game."

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

Henry <3

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

https://twitter.com/stancollymore/status/168362548008194049
Here we go again

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

Really shitty defending from O'Shea, something that will forever put a smile on my face.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

yeah apparently suarez was told to shake evra's hand by lfc.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

Arteta just got stamped on. Today has reminded me why I hate MON teams.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

hence Kenny's "that's not what i've been told" i guess

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

No complaining about Arsene taking off the Ox this week.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

Dunno what I want in the late game. A bore draw maybe the best option. Catching Spurs is unrealistic, and yet if 'Arry leaves... oh please let St. Totteringhams Day continue to exist.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

No complaining about Arsene taking off the Ox this week.

― James Mitchell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:55 (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He was anonymous in the second half and Wenger seems to be taking him off around the same time every game so I think fans understand that (for now at least) he may just be a 60 min type of player.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

Like VDV amirite

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

totally! there has been a long tradition of 60 minute attacking types.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

Except there's still hope for the Ox to gain minutes, he's still young. VDV will just have to deal with being a 60min player imho.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 11 February 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

yeah wenger's just protecting the young's

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 11 February 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

*young'un

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 11 February 2012 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

vdv doesn't realise he's a 60 min player but no disputing it imo

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 February 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

BAE with the hair unleashed

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

Saha!

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Saturday, 11 February 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

lovely finish

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

awful hair on VDV jr

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

Just started watching, already missed two Spurs goals - descriptions please?

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 11 February 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

saha scores again!
and he's down injured

mizzell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

first one was the result of good play by Adebayor at the near post who played across the goal for BAE to storm in and finish it.
Second was a cool sidefooted volley from an Adebayor cross

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

three assists for Ade now. Decent partnership they're striking up

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

frist 2 both created by adebayor. first one he played a 1-2 with bale and ran into the box hit a ball across the face of goal that came all the way to bae who finished sharply.
2nd was an early cross that saha volleyed with a katate kick
xxp

mizzell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

A katate kick?

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 11 February 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

well it was leaping side foot

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

Wow - four assists for the big man

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 11 February 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

xp yeah flying through the air with his legs extended
happy for niko!

mizzell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

How did Assou Ekoto suddenly get such massive hair?

(re: "katate kick", don't worry I was just being a dick about the typo)

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 11 February 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

The hair was always there. It was just braided

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

haha didn't even notice the typo

mizzell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 18:17 (thirteen years ago)

4-0 up at halftime against a shambolic Newcastle? Hmm.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 11 February 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

Cruel on Krul tbh

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 11 February 2012 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

I know what you're thinking Ismael, but this DEFINITELY won't finish 4-4. If you want to stick a fiver on it I'll even give you odds of 3-1.

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 11 February 2012 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

Was that the Spurs fans or Newcastle ones singing 'Pardew for England'?

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 11 February 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

fuckin romantic weekends bullshit

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 February 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

sweet finish by manu
never seen redknapp so animated on the touchline

mizzell, Saturday, 11 February 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

tickled pink

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

pretty awesome montage there

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

Obviously, I think Redknapp will be offered and will take the England job this summer, but hypothetically what would *you* do in his situation? England manager is traditionally a thankless job and you spend most of the year doing fuck all, whereas it must be pretty exciting to be in charge of this Spurs team.

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 11 February 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

FOUR assists for Big Ade? Srsly?

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 11 February 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

fuckin romantic weekends bullshit

― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), zaterdag 11 februari 2012 19:48 (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 11 February 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

hope spurs get barca in the champions league

john terje (cozen), Saturday, 11 February 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

Daniel Taylor OTM
http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/11/liverpool-kenny-dalglish-luis-suarez?cat=football&type=article

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 11 February 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

Comments will be turned on for this article at 10am on Sunday 12 February

gyac, Saturday, 11 February 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

Daniel Taylor otm indeed. Last of LFC dignity ripped to shreds today. All because they bought this idiot Suarez. Coming from Holland, it's hard to not go "hate to say I told you so" tbh

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 11 February 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)

Weird how everyone (afaik) itt defending Suarez over the race incident or dismissing the handshake incident supports the same team. You'd think at least one impartial ilfer would read the report and watch the footage and come to the same conclusion as every Liverpool fan.

once a weak eye sample (onimo), Saturday, 11 February 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh2GklvY7eQ

Chris, Saturday, 11 February 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

back and to the left

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez was convicted of (i) using insulting language which (ii) made reference to colour. It wasn't a charge of racism, or even necessarily of racist abuse. I get why the initial line was to make clear in public that he's no racist, but the very next thing should've been to clarify what the charge was. This is turning into a pr disaster because everyone's still stuck on the line that the conviction was worse than it is. Every new fiasco is hammering home that first message now, instead of what's intended.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 11 February 2012 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

too bad this angle exists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80Oed8OT4vw

gyac, Saturday, 11 February 2012 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

l'affaire suarez really needs a thread tbh guys, cos i genuinely got <3 for the lfc ilx cru and admire their doggedness in the face of constant (fair and unfair) abuse but tbrr this shit is different and is p much gonna flair up btwn now and suarez leaving, we really need to put it out to tender

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 February 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

looks like the rugby is gonna be called off too. LG is gonna be pissed

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

I get why the initial line was to make clear in public that he's no racist, but the very next thing should've been to clarify what the charge was.
This would involve providing evidence as to what 'probably' happened though.

This is turning into a pr disaster because everyone's still stuck on the line that the conviction was worse than it is.
And will be forever more. Amazed that Liverpool didn't publish their own 'written reasons' to clarify why they're pissed off, of which there are plenty.

Chris, Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

is that the same daniel taylor who described the fanzine incident as an 'over-reaction'.

l'affaire suarez really needs a thread tbh guys

i think people have made their minds up. not sure what else can be said. i'm amazed at the number of seemingly sound people who have refused to give this the attention it deserves. if you won't listen to a liverpool fan then read those newsframes pieces if you haven't already. fed up of it all.

Chris, Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

See, I don't think there are particularly. The conviction is to a low standard of proof, unlike what Terry's facing. It's not a real conviction, unlike Terry. It's a lesser charge than Terry. The evidence is flimsy, but a case like this can only be decided on the basis of what evidence there is i.e. Evra's word v Suarez's. Reading the judgment it's perfectly clear why the decision went as it did, hence no appeal.

In that light, the thing to do had to be to minimise, regret, learn lessons and put down to misunderstanding. Stuff like today escalates to completely counterproductive effect.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

Q to Liverpool fans:
1) Do you believe Suarez referred to Evra's race/colour at least once during an angry exchange? Y/N
2) Do you believe it was wrong to do so? Y/N

3) If you answered Y to 1 and 2, do you believe Kenny Dalglish and Luis Suarez would answer in the same way? Y/N

I personally go with YYN and I think people at Liverpool muddying the waters with Maybe/N/N and then going after Evra as a liar and referring to his "previous" (which he didn't actually have) makes them look terrible and risks people thinking they condone the use of racist language.

Liverpool and Suarez could have stated explicitly months ago that it was wrong for Suarez to use this term in those circumstances regardless to what is or isn't acceptable in other countries and offered a simple (even insincere) apology to Evra and I think this would all be over long before now. An early apology might also have reduced the period of the ban.

fwiw I think it's fair enough to dispute how many times he said it and to state that this single/double/sixtuple incident doesn't automatically make him a racist, but everyone involved in the entire case including Suarez has admitted he said it at least once, why not admit then that it was wrong?

once a weak eye sample (onimo), Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

Mertesacker : /

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

I jinxed him by calling him a Big out of water :(

once a weak eye sample (onimo), Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger 'fears ligament damage' in the Big's ankle.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

" fuckin romantic weekends bullshit"

Cosign.

Reckon Liverpool will sell Suarez in the summer. His goal tally isn't enough to justify the grief, especially given how much money they could get for him.

Matt DC, Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

No way. Which is not to say that Suarez won't want out - I think that's verging on more likely than not, partly due to persecution and partly due to the club underachieving - more that there's too much hope & credibility invested in him for the club to initiate things.

Except for one thing. I imagine it's clear from my take on things that I am interested in how the club is perceived more widely and how its stance plays in the wider world. I don't think this is how Dalglish, the louder fans, or the core of the club sees things - I don't think they care if non-Liverpudlians think they're acting like dicks. Which I can't knock tbh, their job is to forge a successful team, not to make friends.

But I do wonder to what extent Fenway understand or are on board with this. If they care about bad PR, then I could see action being taken to get rid. In which case Dalglish would quit. If they see bad PR as good box-office, then obviously he'll be kept. I don't know the answer, except that I suspect they're most interested in international revenues, and would guess that those aren't being harmed by all this.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

Seems to be a lack of organisation there. Is it right that KD is the only person who's been speaking out about this? Just can't get my head around the fact that they neither apologised for any offence taken early on, nor published their own written reasons to try to explain their stance. Missed a massive open goal here.

Chris, Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

What does 'back and to the left' mean btw?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

Reference to the JFK movie where Costner is describing the angle of the bullets hitting the president.

Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

JFK

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

3.20 onwards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MLc0udf_74

Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:32 (thirteen years ago)

Ach, the handshake was nothing, the advertising boards thing even less; can't believe we've been arguing about that all day. Really wish Jonathan Pearce wasn't commentating though, he always overplays everything.

And Ferguson can piss off, what's he on about there?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

the fenway guys have to be displeased. on the wrong side of a race row? losing and drawing this much? from this side of the atlantic everyone at lfc looks pedantic/rong/stoopid. luckily for them it isn't a big story here. could see suarez AND kenny gone at the end of the season, comolli to reshape

who can judge namitha (toandos), Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

We looked completely overwhelmed around Utd's goals

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

'from this side of the atlantic everyone at lfc looks pedantic/rong/stoopid'

this is true but

'luckily for them it isn't a big story here'

this is prob much more important for Henry et al. Someone should get LeBron's take on matters.

boxall, Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

Motd showing Sky footage? Wtf?!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that must have hurt

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

great handshake replays

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

Not sure what Dalglish has done wrong here? Tbf this is all massively curtailed.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

loled at suarez knocking ferdy and evra over in one go tbh

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

curtailed?

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

Evans getting some deserved props

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

How did we play Scholes btw? Every other game the opposition has sat miles off him & let him do his thing unhindered - I was hoping we'd have him harried from the off.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

Curtailed = I'm getting no feel for what the game/occasion was actually like (I didn't see it earlier obviously)

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

that was about the height of it tbh. It wasn't incredibly eventful

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea are only getting worse.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

wow. incredible skills from pienaar

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

And Ferguson can piss off, what's he on about there?

Pure trolling. Not the first time he's pulled the "club of Liverpool's standing shouldn't blah blah" bollocks just to get a rise out of people. Even when he's right he's still a dick.

Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:20 (thirteen years ago)

Fergie's going to have to deal with another handshaking problem tomorrow morning *makes drinky drinky motion*

zappi, Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:21 (thirteen years ago)

Heh, from reading the thread this afternoon I had no idea it was Arshavin made the winner out of nothing

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:24 (thirteen years ago)

h8 u Henry

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:24 (thirteen years ago)

ya. quality play from arshavin.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:25 (thirteen years ago)

I thought Henry was signing off v Spurs? I feel cheated now.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:26 (thirteen years ago)

they tried to get him for two more weeks but NY refused

Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:27 (thirteen years ago)

love swansea tbh

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:28 (thirteen years ago)

Ooh, well done that Norwich dude hooking the ball back in.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

holt 11th pl goal

England?

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:31 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.mlssoccer.com/blog/smorgasborg/2012/02/09/american-manager-who-should-be-englands-short-list

this writer is the biggest fuckin jackass btw

long duk dan (dan m), Sunday, 12 February 2012 04:01 (thirteen years ago)

re ismael

Which I can't knock tbh, their job is to forge a successful team, not to make friends.

ummm liverpool's job is to make friends. friends who we more commonly call supporters, who buy tickets and merchandise and shirts. whether they come 4th-7th one year isn't actually as important as, oh i dunno, gaining a worldwide reputation that non-white people aren't welcome that could last for a long time. if you are a black parent in liverpool right now and your kid is choosing a team, who are you going to buy him a shirt for, everton or liverpool?

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 12 February 2012 07:32 (thirteen years ago)

That's not Dalglish's job. To some extent you're right, which is why I pointed out that Fenway might see it totally differently, depending on to what extent they're aware of what's going on here.

I'm not sure the club is picking up that reputation by the way. It could be - I don't know - though I'd guess that Liverpool & Suarez's stance gets more sympathy outside the UK (and North America) than it does here. Those links Chris posted are largely nonsense, but the core idea of media distortion is right I think - nobody even reports the charges right. I'd guess other places adjust for British hypocrisy too. And although I have some grave concerns about certain things that have happened, overall I'm not sure the stance has been that wrong, as opposed to just a consistent and slightly belligerent defence.

Which is kind of the point - KD and the rest are preaching to the choir here. Which again I don't particularly like, but I'm not from there and that's how some clubs (and places) are, Liverpool more than most. So I don't think parents, black or otherwise, are going to be particularly affected by this, plus it is just one non-tribal factor among many, whatever your origin. Everton are hardly some kind of utopian alternative anyway, historically.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 12 February 2012 08:13 (thirteen years ago)

Everton is just an example, support isn't really a regional thing anymore w/ the Premiership.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 12 February 2012 08:15 (thirteen years ago)

If Liverpool turn into a side that win Premiership titles and Champions Leagues then people in Japan or India aren't going to give two shits about this situation.

I don't know if it's residual and naive nostalgia for the pre-Premiership era coupled with Liverpool's underdog status during said era, but I've always thought of Liverpool as kind of good guys of modern football. Even when they were dull Champions League mainstays I couldn't really fault them, but they are acting like such dicks I actively want them to fail.

I reckon Dalglish is doing some misguided protect-your-best-player nonsense here and may well privately think Suarez is guilty as hell. Fergie may be a dick but he would have given Suarez a big slapdown, a fine, and a few weeks on the bench. It's possible Suarez is such a loose cannon that just wouldn't work from a man management point of view, but it's still misguided.

You're right that Dalglish's job is to win games rather than friends. He's not doing either particularly well right now.

Matt DC, Sunday, 12 February 2012 10:55 (thirteen years ago)

theoretically LFC could end up with 2 cups this year (given that the 2 best teams are already out) which would be success.

pandemic, Sunday, 12 February 2012 11:42 (thirteen years ago)

Not sure that the owners would see winning two cups and finishing 7th as success - particularly after spending so much money to rebuild the team.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Sunday, 12 February 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

Eh, if they thought we would finish fourth, they mad. Don't think any of the ILX LFC contingent did.

pandemic, Sunday, 12 February 2012 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

I must just zone out when Shearer et al are talking - I didn't even notice that Evra sneakily dropping his hand as Suarez arrived was a thing 'til I rewatched motd just now. Got to say it actually looks more like Suarez passing over an Evra snub than vice versa now. Maybe that's what Kenny meant by 'not what I was told'?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 12 February 2012 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

But still.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 12 February 2012 12:04 (thirteen years ago)

It's not as blind and white as it first seemed.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 12 February 2012 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

xxxp, From a business perspective, if you finish 6th one year, invest £100m, or whatever, on reshaping the squad and finish 7th the next, you're not going to be happy. The position isn't as important as the fact that they look as far away as ever from challenging. I don't know any Liverpool fans who think they've invested wisely or that they're set up to significantly improve with the players they have over the next two years.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Sunday, 12 February 2012 12:08 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool challenging for fourth isn't a ridiculous prospect at all, look at the state of Chelsea and Arsenal over the course of this season. They're pretty resilient, but Dalglish's problem has been the inability to turn Liverpool into a creative or threatening side - a handful more goals would see them in fourth. Part of the problem is they're over-reliant on Suarez for creativity, especially when Bellamy isn't playing.

Matt DC, Sunday, 12 February 2012 12:17 (thirteen years ago)

£100 million, really! I call bullshit. At the start of the season did anyone expect Chelsea and Arsenal to be so poor?

pandemic, Sunday, 12 February 2012 12:20 (thirteen years ago)

Also I was unaware that the season had ended.

pandemic, Sunday, 12 February 2012 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

Arguably Arsenal are overperforming. I had them down for 7th, but behind Everton not Newcastle.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 12 February 2012 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

xps The £115m spent obviously includes the previous January transfer window but it's part of the same project under the new ownership. They took over a side that was probably the sixth best in the league and now have one that's probably still sixth best in the league.

I wouldn't bet against them finishing 4th. That would represent success - not winning two cups.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Sunday, 12 February 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

I don't know any Liverpool fans who think they've invested wisely or that they're set up to significantly improve with the players they have over the next two years.

i'm a pessimist but "over the next two years"... might as well say i reckon i've a poor chance of winning any coin tosses that emerge to decide minor decisions amongst friends from from now till 2023.

and of course winning cups would be a success.

I don't know if it's residual and naive nostalgia for the pre-Premiership era coupled with Liverpool's underdog status during said era, but I've always thought of Liverpool as kind of good guys of modern football.

love this, if an lfc fan said this on ile they'd have a letter sent to their house with "sense of entitlement" written in semen on it.

as for kenny, he's just overdoing "siege mentality", ferguson is actually personally on the record with vile homophobic shit and if you google it there's barely a criticism but it's in enough places to know it happened.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 12 February 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

I must just zone out when Shearer et al are talking - I didn't even notice that Evra sneakily dropping his hand as Suarez arrived was a thing 'til I rewatched motd just now.
except the video from behind suarez which i posted upthread shows evra raising his hand to suarez's. can this theory just die already?

gyac, Sunday, 12 February 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

haven't watched the handshake vid again - somehow life gets in the way of the important stuff.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 12 February 2012 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

I've just rechecked the predictions thread, and nearly everyone had Chelsea first or second. A handful of brave souls went for third.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 12 February 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

The vile red-nosed old Scottish drunk had some choice words about snood wearers, didn't he?

James Mitchell, Sunday, 12 February 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0528/1224297950159.html

As far back as 1997 he signalled a growing animosity towards those who cover the game. “There are some excellent journalists, honest journalists, and respected journalists,” he observed, “but the media has become a monster. They know all the answers, right and wrong. They want exclusive stories and confidential background. They want their cards marked. They want gossip. And, believe me, if they don’t get it, you’re in trouble.”

He may have had something of a point then but five years later when somebody asked at the end of United’s season something as innocuous as whether he would be attending the World Cup in Japan and South Korea that summer, he replied, far more outrageously: “None of your business! Do I still ask you if you’re still going to those fucking gay clubs?”

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

not sure what Fergie's cuntishness has to do with the issue in hand but do carry on

Number None, Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

Exactly. He might be a hypocrite and a homophobe but it doesn't mean he's wrong.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

once we're clear.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

for a guy who's all 'fuckin ilx fuckin this shit's not important fuckin media gossip fuckin who cares let's get on with the stuff that relates only to the ball' i gotta say, ronan - tryin to make evra/dalglish's current & ongoingbehaviour - which is in directlyconnected to, if not directly responsible for, much of the media frenzy nor the fan/messageboard frenzy that, again, you bemoan so much-somehow equal to one ferguson quote from i don't know when is NAGL.

I mean i know i'm just another lfc hater but

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

fuckin phone, sorry for garble

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

if people are going to slate dalglish then i think the fact it's a quote from "i don't know when" says a lot, obviously didn't cause a ripple and is worse than anything dalglish has done/said. doesn't exonerate dalglish but it does give some perspective on one of the most outspoken voices of the weekend, fergie.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

I don't know if it's residual and naive nostalgia for the pre-Premiership era coupled with Liverpool's underdog status during said era, but I've always thought of Liverpool as kind of good guys of modern football.

You've got to be trolling us here, Matt!

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

Fucking Mail:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/12/11/article-0-0C7261C5000005DC-858_468x772.jpg

James Mitchell, Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

link to prediction thread?

john terje (cozen), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

Fergie's a bit camp anyway? Not as much as Brian Clough but even so...

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

the bottom third obviously

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

ftr i like lfc the idea, i just have to filter out rafa and the more ludicrous conspiracy theory/ paranoid tendencies of many of the fans.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

plenty of failure to recognise different viewpoints amongs the lfc fans in the last two days.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

I don't know, pretty solid majority of them seem Suarez apologists

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

sometimes when they're all against you, you're just fuckin wrong, dunno what to say.

Spurs consolidating third is the story of the day, trap out

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

the more ludicrous conspiracy theory/ paranoid tendencies of many of the fans

Bit like this?

http://i.imgur.com/DES90.jpg

James Mitchell, Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

sometimes when they're all against you, you're just fuckin wrong, dunno what to say.

when who's against who???

agree on trapp out tho, not least when i saw that sunderland goal.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

tbh when a woman beating dogger takes the moral high ground over you, it's probably best to give up.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

cant see pic on phone but im gonna say yes

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

Hahaha. What is Collymore doing, some kind of customer feedback exercise?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

"When did I last beat my wife?"

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

Did I last beat my wife to YOUR satisfaction? Yes or no?

mark s, Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

"How's my beating?"

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

I think we can all agree that this handshaking stuff before every fucking game is bollocks

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

... like it's the Royal Engineers vs. Corinthian in 1892 or sumthin'

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

Suárez did shake the hands of (at least) 2 alleged adulterers and an alleged shoplifter and tried to shake the hand of a proven drugs cheat, who then refused to shake his hand! What principles the drugs cheat has.

john terje (cozen), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, it's a rule for me never to shake the hand of an adulterer too

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

Had forgotten the Wolves game was on as NV has not been on the thread complaining about McCarthy.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Sunday, 12 February 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2099929/Comment-Kenny-Dalglish-reduced-scowling-sneering-bar-room-bully.html

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 12 February 2012 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

So Suarez has apologised then

Number None, Sunday, 12 February 2012 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

Well, Liverpool have released an apology 'from him'.

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 12 February 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, but at least it's something. Makes the conspiracy theorists look even more idiotic

Number None, Sunday, 12 February 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

Refusing to shake hands is a mark of respect in Uruguay

Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Sunday, 12 February 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

This "well he may be a racist but look at the bad shit these other guys did" is inane.

Rampant homophobia at every level of the game is a serious issue (my guess is that if you polled every Premiership manager and got them to speak with absolute honesty you'd get more homophobes than not) but a lame rhetorical device to some how level the playing field with Suarez. Face it, they're all cunts, so unfair to pick on Suarez etc etc.

Matt DC, Sunday, 12 February 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

Assuming the released apology isn't actually "from" Suarez's massive repentent heart, then surely it's an indication of a significant fissure in management-player solidarity? It's publicly saying he better act in good grace -- as set out by this apology -- at all future times, or it will be an act of war against his own club

^^^possibly v naive of me here

mark s, Sunday, 12 February 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

McCarthy out? That was a bit of a doing. V enjoyable watch if, like me, you didn't care for either team.

ailsa, Sunday, 12 February 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

Oof, that's a proper shoeing. Didn't nv say this was almost his ideal weekend yesterday?!

That statement's pretty strong btw. Good on the club.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 12 February 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

Kenny: "When I went on TV after yesterday's game I hadn't seen what had happened, but I did not conduct myself in a way befitting of a Liverpool Manager during that interview and I'd like to apologise for that."

Number None, Sunday, 12 February 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

Shame it took 24 hours - and the intervention of the club's hierarchy - to come to the conclusion that he'd been an arsehole.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 12 February 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

Great day for my beloved Baggies

Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Sunday, 12 February 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

fair play to lfc

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 12 February 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

davitts v milltown in gaa club finals, croke park corporate area v comfortable

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 12 February 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe Liverpool can sack Andy Carroll too.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 12 February 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

welcome to the gary gardner show

MPx4A, Sunday, 12 February 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

'from this side of the atlantic everyone at lfc looks pedantic/rong/stoopid'

this is true but

'luckily for them it isn't a big story here'

this is prob much more important for Henry et al. Someone should get LeBron's take on matters.

― boxall, Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:01 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Big story in the ny times today headline is Another Ugly Incident Mars Liverpool's Good Name

mizzell, Sunday, 12 February 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

did not know the NYT held shares in Fenway Sports Group

gyac, Sunday, 12 February 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

davitts gave away soft punched goal, looked square to me tbh. Movement is keane-esque (ireland, latter spurs version)

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 12 February 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

Are you a denizen of Dublin now?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 12 February 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

god, Villa are shit

Number None, Sunday, 12 February 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

lone striker thing isn't working for Aguero at all though

Number None, Sunday, 12 February 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

oh mccarthypaws

who is the utd alleged shoplifter? xpost

#hodgsonforengland

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 12 February 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

De Gea

Number None, Sunday, 12 February 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

it was a doughnut

Number None, Sunday, 12 February 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

oh yeah, i forgot about that

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 12 February 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

Doesn't count if you eat it in the shop, I thought?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 12 February 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

i aim to be a dub denizen after thursday depending on an interview, but only by location obv

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

this city has a way of changing a man...

Number None, Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

I'm there next weekend - would look you guys up but my schedule is kinda hectic so it'd just be high-fiving from a passing taxi really.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

thank goodness for that

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

this is just city attacking and villa clearing it back for city to attack and so on. villa kinda deserve to lose, they look like they don't want to leave their own half.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

ah lescott goes and does it. hopefully this makes villa try and do ANYTHING

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

Annoying the way Bloodzeed is always a little behind. Paying for the quality i suppose

Number None, Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

i've got a real sense of entitlement about my illegal streaming services

Number None, Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

I've been using this thing called 'radio' today, kind of impressed with the speed tbh

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

This "well he may be a racist but look at the bad shit these other guys did" is inane.

Rampant homophobia at every level of the game is a serious issue (my guess is that if you polled every Premiership manager and got them to speak with absolute honesty you'd get more homophobes than not) but a lame rhetorical device to some how level the playing field with Suarez. Face it, they're all cunts, so unfair to pick on Suarez etc etc.

nobody is saying this. and if you can't see the diff between "if you polled every manager" and actually on the record homophobia then kind of amazing we're even having this discussion. someone's private views or thoughts are not a crime thankfully.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

Great chance there for a totally unmerited draw

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

and again

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

...and again...

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

McLeish is just fuckin trolling everyone watching this match

MPx4A, Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

Big win for City. They sound in decent form yet unconvincing. I've been assuming Yaya Toure coming back would sort things out, but I'm kind of nervous for them tbh.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

City were pretty rubbish really. The second Villa started trying they had two brilliant chances

Number None, Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

I wish Spurs were 2nd, I'd enjoy this scenario a lot more.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

otm obv

i am trying to limit ilxing from today onwards, but i'm prob gonna exclude ilf from that, inc this thread too tbf.

Are there others do that? Do we have footy-only posters?

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 12 February 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

Me, I guess. Mostly because I have social circles to discuss music/books/food/racism but no IRL ILF equivalent sadly.

boxall, Sunday, 12 February 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

heh i'm maybe the opposite but am kinda sick of discussion of some of those things lol too long on ilx

Tho iirc sexism/racism may have been raised itt bytimes, and roy keane's writing.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 12 February 2012 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

and thudd's eating habits and baines's musical tastes.

Thread otm

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 12 February 2012 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

me at the moment for some inexplicable reason

(tho i did post "the thing as remade by pingu" on "the thing" thread)

mark s, Sunday, 12 February 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

I also read the rolling NFL & hoops threads and think the valuable content/discussion ratio is much much higher here so well done all.

boxall, Sunday, 12 February 2012 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

I've almost become footy-only, yeah. That and books. I'd have no time to, y'know, do stuff otherwise.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 12 February 2012 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

probably 3/4 of my posts are on football threads. others are basically tv/music threads i have bookmarked.

mizzell, Sunday, 12 February 2012 18:34 (thirteen years ago)

that's about where i am too at this point. irl has everything else covered but i don't have a single friend who knows who aguero is etc

who can judge namitha (toandos), Sunday, 12 February 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

Thinking about this a little more, ILX has become more-or-less integral to my footy experience these days. I can't remember the last game I watched and didn't liveblog in some form. I've even posted from the last few I've been at.

All to your credit chaps, it enhances the experience.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 12 February 2012 19:45 (thirteen years ago)

I've even posted from the last few I've been locked in The Emirates toilets for

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 12 February 2012 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

Everything's better with a little ILF

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 12 February 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

Slightly inspired by off-forum exchange with you, IK, I too want to cut down on ILX. But the added experience the footy threads bring to my football joys is immense, so I won't be cutting down on these. ILX footy threads are a huge part of my enjoyment of the game, and particularly getting more insight and lols of English football tbh

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 12 February 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

I menan, for one, here in Holland everyone is all "wow JT what a legend, he can't be racist!" and "Suarez whadda guy, whadda player, Evra is being a bitch". I need the ILX antidote, and need it bad.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 12 February 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

Argh I feel bad now, you bring a lot to this place!

"wow JT what a legend, he can't be racist!"

I mean this is just a throwaway remark, but you've revealed a universe I could never even have imagined.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 12 February 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

*shakes fist at matt dc's years of ilf obstructionism*

who can judge namitha (toandos), Sunday, 12 February 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

No don't feel bad, I thank you! Was toying with the idea already for a while, but what you said made proper sense.

And about that universe: it does exist. Not just the idiots on football message boards, but media pundits too. JT is seen as a Chelsea and England legend. Partly, I think, because most miss all the inside info one gets here, because the tabloids don't reach beyond the sea this way. It enrages me but also makes me feel wholly at home here :-)

I can't speak for other countries but would be surprised if it's otherwise in say, Germany or France. Maybe Pandemic or Jibe can weigh in. But for here, it's safe to say JT's reputation hasn't reached our shores of mainstream media etc, sadly.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 12 February 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

i've never played professional football so from this point on i won't be able to comment on whether Wolverhampton Wanderers are shit or whether Mick McCarthy is an experienced Premier League manager who's been a bit unlucky for the last 18 months

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 01:10 (thirteen years ago)

if it's any consolation, fletcher's goal really was beautiful.

Chris, Monday, 13 February 2012 03:06 (thirteen years ago)

xp to lbi : I'll confirm that in France JT is very highly regarded too. I find it v entertaining reading the ilx football thread and then comparing it to what I read on french websites/forums etc - along with JT, players like gerrard or lampard are also seen as legends on those french sites (and i can't count the number of times i've seen ppl say they'd love to have lampard on their team - currently i see it v often on psg related sites)whereas here they're more regularly made fun of.

Jibe, Monday, 13 February 2012 05:22 (thirteen years ago)

Fletcher's goal was tremendous. We don't deserve him.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 07:04 (thirteen years ago)

Am impressed with anyone who can receive a reliable 3G signal at the Emirates.

James Mitchell, Monday, 13 February 2012 07:07 (thirteen years ago)

some of the players seem to be constantly struggling to receive relatively small packets of info alright

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 13 February 2012 10:40 (thirteen years ago)

Mick out.

James Mitchell, Monday, 13 February 2012 10:58 (thirteen years ago)

Finally.

Right. Eck out!

Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:00 (thirteen years ago)

An air of pessimism surrounds the England team's chances of winning this summer's European Championship but Redknapp insists there is every reason to be optimistic about the country's chances of success, particularly due to the experience and strength in depth the country has in midfield.

"There are good players in England, good young players here, for sure," Redknapp added.

"Frank Lampard's still a top player and Stevie Gerrard's still a world-class player.

"There are some good English players in midfield still. I bent over backwards to get Scott Parker in the summer.

"And let's be honest, you'd love to have Paul Scholes in the Euros this year.

"He'd be in your team, he's that good. You'd love him to play. He plays like a Spaniard, he can play like Xavi, like (Andres) Iniesta, he doesn't give the ball away."

Should Redknapp take over, he looks set to appoint either Parker, or Liverpool captain Gerrard as national skipper.

"Scotty could do it for sure, so could Steven Gerrard," Redknapp said.

"Scotty is a fantastic boy, he's a family man, he loves his football, he trains well, he plays well, he gets on with the job, he's not a minute's problem.

"He's not a Billy big-time. He's just a great boy and that's what you need in your football club if you're going to do anything."

'arry in a nutshell. He's the current Tottenham manager and he's opining on who England should be brining out of retirement and who the captain should be.

James Mitchell, Monday, 13 February 2012 11:00 (thirteen years ago)

Steve Bruce early favourite for Wolves, lordy

Ismael Klata, Monday, 13 February 2012 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

The merry go round of the usual suspects continues, then.

Surprised Hughes or Allarydce aren't up for it.

James Mitchell, Monday, 13 February 2012 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

Are there any player-managers any more? Was it the transfer window killed those guys off?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 13 February 2012 11:11 (thirteen years ago)

bosman ruling prob?

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:12 (thirteen years ago)

@James Mitchell, please tell me you made up those 'Arry quotes right?

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:13 (thirteen years ago)

Fletcher's goal was tremendous. We don't deserve him.

Can we have him then? That's Celtic AND Scotland.

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:13 (thirteen years ago)

There'll be dancing in the streets of Hull tonight iirc

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:13 (thirteen years ago)

please tell me you made up those 'Arry quotes right?

Nope.

James Mitchell, Monday, 13 February 2012 11:14 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJoj9IqeKg

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

Throughout this depressing saga, Dalglish has promoted a sense of paranoia, a feeling that the club have been hard done-by, ill-used, savagely put-upon. He has conjured the notion of a vast conspiracy directed at Liverpool, without ever explaining the logic or the motives behind such a movement.

... this is the guy who tried (was forced into) managing Celtic for the best part of a season, think that explains a lot

he behaved like a bar-room bully

Bollocks. Dalglish just isn't the type... unlike Ferguson.

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:18 (thirteen years ago)

now the sickening dread at the prospect of Bruce can begin

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.nigerianelitesforum.com/ng/sports/12293-when-aaron-ramsey-of-arsenal-fc-scores-celebrity-dies.html#post21165

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:21 (thirteen years ago)

that steve bruce is never that far way from a premier league job is disproportionately depressing to me.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 13 February 2012 11:25 (thirteen years ago)

not as depressing as it is to me right now

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:26 (thirteen years ago)

but surely not?

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:26 (thirteen years ago)

surely, tbh

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

Buggers belief

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:31 (thirteen years ago)

Is he at least tactically competent? Genuine question, I have no memory of anything in his career except being the patsy in Ferguson's 70th birthday embarrassment.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 13 February 2012 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

it wd be hard to be less tactically competent than McCarthy but i feel like Bruce is probably on a level with him

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

but god i don't want to get all excited about competent.

also Terry Connor needs to be got rid of as soon as a new manager's appointed. if anything i suspect Connor's been the tactical mastermind under Mick.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

Be LOLsome if Roy Keane got the job

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

i wd be all in favour of Keane tbh

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

possibly because of revenge fantasies about some of our squad

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

You do need to keep up the ex-Celtic player numbers as well, (Steve) Kean's only just hanging on after all ... not to mention Dalglish! So Malky Mackay for Wolves then?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:47 (thirteen years ago)

There's hope yet, Bruce drifting badly after making the early running - 8/1 from 4/1 earlier. Curbishley the new frontrunner at sevens. But wait - Rafa also drifting, down there at 16/1.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 13 February 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

It's almost like nobody's got a clue.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 13 February 2012 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

Bruce is pretty limited as a manager but he'd keep that Wolves team in the Premiership and you'd be able to build from there. McCarthy has always been shit, he was a complete disaster at Sunderland.

Matt DC, Monday, 13 February 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

i literally have no idea whether most of our squad are Premiership class and i don't think anybody will know until they've had a chance under a competent tactician

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

You'd take Curbs over Bruce surely? Rafa over anyone though.

I've always viewed Bruce as more of a steward than a manager. I can't associate him with any particular style of play, type of player that he favours or any personality whatsoever besides generic good-natured Geordie. He might keep them up in the way that a new manager just reinvigorates regardless of who it is, but that's hardly progress, is it?

Upt0eleven, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

Wasn't it the case when Sunderland sacked him that Mick was simultaneously the most successful Championship/Div1 manager and least successful Premiership manager in both league's histories (measured in points-per-game)? I think he took Millwall to 3rd, took over Sunderland to take them down, got them to the play-offs then got them up as champions then straight back down with a handful of points.

Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

i literally have no idea whether most of our squad are Premiership class

What if they aren't? What if they were only still scraping their place in the league thanks to what Mick could get out of them?

(I was thinking of a thread along those lines - like "is your club's position reflective of its quality?" or something like that)

Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

xpost to self

I mean staying up is obv better than going down but Bruce just seems like the obvious, risk/return-free, affordable choice.

Prepared to concede I may have my assessment completely wrong and just be basing it all on his face tho.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

mccarthy isn't shit - i think he gets a harder time than he deserves, and at least did well in the championship at sunderland - but it was certainly time for wolves to let him go. bruce will not get another premier league job, though it's not inconveivable that he could be back in the premier league one day via promotion. curbishley will probably get the wolves job, which is not an exciting propspect, but not an altogether unpleasant one either

Weasel Diesel, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

Cd live with Curbs, Rafa wd be fascinating but i can't see Morgan paying Rafa wages. Wd detest Bruce.

What if they were only still scraping their place in the league thanks to what Mick could get out of them?

the problem with this of course is that these are almost all players that mick bought in or has consistently chosen to play, long past the point of common sense in some cases cough*karlhenry*cough

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

I've always viewed Bruce as more of a steward than a manager. I can't associate him with any particular style of play, type of player that he favours or any personality whatsoever

My flatmate hates Bruce and often goes on about this. He really is kind of an anonymous character

Number None, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

Obv. no-one would want Steve Bruce managing their football team. Is Curbishley still looking for work, he seems a bit longterm unemployed to me. Is Billy Davies too much of a pain in the arse? Would any of the up and coming managers outside the Prem. want to manage Wolves?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

mccarthy can't really consider himself harshly done by. the performances this season have been woeful, with perhaps 5 or 6 exceptions. the sheer number of goals we've shipped is testament to a failure to get even the fundamentals in place. whether he's better in the championship or not i think he's too tactically inept to cut it in the game now and too pig-headed to get people around him who can do tactics.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

Billy Davies wd be a treat tbh. Ince wd be...interesting. I'd take Woy if the Albion fans weren't back in love with him after yesterday. Ideally I want somebody with vision and given the time and patience to build that, tbh. I want a bit of ethos.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

odds on McCarthy to Leeds are shortening fast, apparently.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

Freedman and Solskjær are two names being kicked about lower down the bookies' lists. Dunno what odds are based on other than the first few linters through the doors though.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

Linters? Punters.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

i like Dougie Freedman and wdn't wish the damned utd on him

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

Ey up, lad, I reckon the linters have got the treadle athwart down at t' mill, I tell thee (xp)

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

Those were for The Damned Wanderers

Ismael Klata, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

Bruce would probably do better than many of these names in terms of keeping Wolves up but it might be better to get relegated and rebuild in the Championship with someone actually talented on board.

What might be more likely happen is that you end up with Warnock or someone and make no net improvement whatsoever.

Matt DC, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

ok i like Dougie Freedman and wd welcome him to the Voyage of the Damned

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

Wtf is a linter? Why does my autocorrect know that and not punter?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

every word of that post is true Matt except i wd substitute "would" for "might"

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

David O'Leary, I think, is who you want. I.e. Mick McCarthy but not.

Having checked his Wiki he appears to be available and also was born in Stoke Newington.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

Ideally I want somebody with vision and given the time and patience to build that, tbh. I want a bit of ethos.

http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2008/11/phil-brown-wetherby-415x275.jpg

HE'S READY.

Matt DC, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

can O'Leary manage a club who don't want to go bankrupt?

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

o'leary is the biggest wanker in football mgmt, a real prick

beware of greeks bearing petrol bombs (darraghmac), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

I know. He was born in Stoke Newington.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

He's even more long term unemployed than Curbishley

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

maybe Capello wd like to continue working in England

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

alternatively this dude looks pretty ready tbh:
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Jewell.jpg

Upt0eleven, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

sorry.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

my dad really rates Jewell.

i don't.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

O'Leary took the traditional Leeds Legend route and went to work in the UAE for a bit. He's still in the game.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

Lol did anyone of you thought it is going to be Van Basten to Wolves bcz he's trending?

(He's Heerenveen's new manager btw, very odd choice)

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 February 2012 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

hasn't Van B been a bit rubbish as a manager?

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

Very. And sadly he's going to my beloved regional club H'veen.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 February 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/da/Heerenveen.png

they seem kinda twee

Ismael Klata, Monday, 13 February 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

But I suspected him to land a high profile manager job at Chelsea or Milan or Inter or something. Feels like those clubs mostly go for a big name, rather than a good manager (AVB an exception, he's a good manager at a shite team tbh)

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 February 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

LOL IK

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 February 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

They're not hearts btw, but red water lilies, as represented in the Frisian flag

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 February 2012 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

ok i take it back water lillies are tuff

who can judge namitha (toandos), Monday, 13 February 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

toandos did you post under a different name or are you new or have i just not noticed you before?

did warnock take the leeds job? he seems like an obvious choice. still waiting to see di canio be given a premiership job. curbishley was boring as tits, lets face it. steve bruce was the second worst premiership manager of the past ten years (jewell at #1).

a hoy hoy, Monday, 13 February 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

there have been worse than those two. what about, say, sammy lee?

Weasel Diesel, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

jewell had the worst total of points ever

also bruce deserves it for a sustained shittiness

a hoy hoy, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

re jewell - at derby county or overall? cos to be fair to him, he did keep bradford and wigan up, and had one excellent season at wigan. his career has undoubtedly gone down the toilet since then, i agree.

Weasel Diesel, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

forgot he was at bradford. i was thinking more about having the worst season ever automatically had him #1 (but also not much thought went into it, come on.)

a hoy hoy, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

Alan Shearer.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

dowie

beware of greeks bearing petrol bombs (darraghmac), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

avram grant's pretty crap too

Weasel Diesel, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

Hardly Paul Jewell though

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

ya grant didn't win the league nor cl that time

beware of greeks bearing petrol bombs (darraghmac), Monday, 13 February 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

grant came bottom with portsmouth and west ham - anyone inheriting that chelsea team would have done ok.

Weasel Diesel, Monday, 13 February 2012 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

lotsa managers woulda come last with those teams and done worse with chelsea

beware of greeks bearing petrol bombs (darraghmac), Monday, 13 February 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

don't think any competent managers would have come last with west ham. his record with small premier league clubs is as bad as anyone's.

Weasel Diesel, Monday, 13 February 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

Weasel Diesel - have you suddenly started posting again after many years or have I just not noticed you?

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 13 February 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

i post very, very occasionally ;-) last time was probably after ireland qualified for euro 2012. i only get involved for huge footballing events like that, and big mick being sacked

Weasel Diesel, Monday, 13 February 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah that West Ham team with competent management could have stayed up. Portsmouth something of a special case.

Matt DC, Monday, 13 February 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

weasel, i want to recognise that you've a case there, before i say

rafa

beware of greeks bearing petrol bombs (darraghmac), Monday, 13 February 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

That bloke that took over Charlton after Curbishley, Les something

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 13 February 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

Les Reed, though wikipedia has reminded me that Dowie was there first. Reed was the second Charlton manager to get sacked in the first half of that season.

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 13 February 2012 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

how about Chris Hutchings

kid steel (cajunsunday), Monday, 13 February 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks. I was going to say that bloke at Wigan who nobody had heard of, but I couldn't even remember his name when he was in the job, never mind now.

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 13 February 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

Bruce 2/1 favourite with Paddy Power. sweating.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 18:16 (thirteen years ago)

can't see it. his rep is too tarnished after the way things went at sunderland, this season particularly. fret not, nv!

Weasel Diesel, Monday, 13 February 2012 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

I'm always a bit embarrassed for clubs when they appoint the assistant manager as number 1.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Monday, 13 February 2012 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

they usually do it after the assistant gets off to a good start, when the team gets an artificial kick that a change of manager usually brings (pearce, roeder, spragia being examples)

Weasel Diesel, Monday, 13 February 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

Heavy rumors (France Football, Dutch press) that Eden Hazard has agreed on terms with Spurs for a transfer next summer! Sole condition seems to be Spurs need to qualify for the CL.

Wenger won't be too pleased about all of this I think, Hazard having forever been linked to Arsenal.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

bale out?

beware of greeks bearing petrol bombs (darraghmac), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

bit harsh on mccarthy in terms of his overall career here. getting ireland to the world cup in 2002 was a pretty stupendous achievement, and they did well when there too.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

't would be the English transfer of the summer imho

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 February 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

xp

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 February 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

I presume it would be Bale-Hazard-Lennon behind an tbd striker?

a hoy hoy, Monday, 13 February 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

Wow, that's interesting - given the level of interest in the guy, I'm wondering if that's Spiders' wage structure shattered too?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 13 February 2012 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

highly doubtful he'd be getting more than say 70k at us, not sure that's not about right for a guy breaking into one of the vv top leagues at a youngish age

beware of greeks bearing petrol bombs (darraghmac), Monday, 13 February 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

yeah hasn't the transfer fee been thought to be around 40m? can't see spurs paying that.
xxp he could take lennon's place, too

mizzell, Monday, 13 February 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

and the tbd striker is a more important signing than hazard would be.

mizzell, Monday, 13 February 2012 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

^^ that is true tbh

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 February 2012 22:14 (thirteen years ago)

absolutely

Tho citeh doping the wages market has left us with carroll or rodallega (unless we nick newcastle's new front two, which would be good)

beware of greeks bearing petrol bombs (darraghmac), Monday, 13 February 2012 22:22 (thirteen years ago)

40m is the hyped price but tbh it will only be that if city pay it? more likely to be around 25ish imo

a hoy hoy, Monday, 13 February 2012 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

assuming this is true i'm guessing modric is gone and that the fee won't be an issue

beware of greeks bearing petrol bombs (darraghmac), Monday, 13 February 2012 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

he is nowhere near a replacement for modric in terms of playing style fyi

a hoy hoy, Monday, 13 February 2012 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

ah but who is?

istr his being a tricky lw

beware of greeks bearing petrol bombs (darraghmac), Monday, 13 February 2012 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

how are you ppl seeing french football/hazard play? al jazeera?

john terje (cozen), Monday, 13 February 2012 22:32 (thirteen years ago)

tricky attacking midfielder who can play l, m or r. kinda like ozil imo.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 13 February 2012 22:32 (thirteen years ago)

how are you ppl seeing french football/hazard play? al jazeera?

― john terje (cozen), Monday, 13 February 2012 22:32 (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

we talk about illegal streaming on here almost daily dude.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 13 February 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

hazard is one of those guys who is beloved by whoever makes those crazy 'cut just 1 dudes performance into a 10 minute youtube clip' autism type things that i <3 so much.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 13 February 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

streams shrink ur balls

john terje (cozen), Monday, 13 February 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

cold ones do

beware of greeks bearing petrol bombs (darraghmac), Monday, 13 February 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

a hoy hoy

who can judge namitha (toandos), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:01 (thirteen years ago)

cool hey dude

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:07 (thirteen years ago)

Tho citeh doping the wages market has left us with carroll or rodallega (unless we nick newcastle's new front two, which would be good)

― beware of greeks bearing petrol bombs (darraghmac), Monday, February 13, 2012 5:22 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gotta look outside england. lucas barrios is way better than his playing time this season for dortmund would suggest. he might be want to move, especially since they already bought reus.

mizzell, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:38 (thirteen years ago)

Curbishley odds on for the Wolves job with William Hill this morning, also far and away the most popular choice in a poll at the Express and Star. I think we cd do a lot worse.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:14 (thirteen years ago)

Hazard will follow in the great tradition of Spurs players like Rivaldo and Samuel Eto'o.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:37 (thirteen years ago)

Or 'arry's 'bankrupt a club then do a runner' plan is coming good again.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:39 (thirteen years ago)

If you overlook the management uncertainty, I reckon this Spurs team must be a pretty exciting prospect for players at the moment, if they're good enough for the first team. Probably a pretty exciting prospect for managers as well.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:22 (thirteen years ago)

But I don't believe it and reckon he'll probably end up at City/United.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:24 (thirteen years ago)

Yes but also with the odd feeling that so many of the players are limited and can be bettered, i.e. if you are a left back you can beat out bae and make the team better, if you are an attacking playmaker, you can put vdv on the bench etc.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:25 (thirteen years ago)

utd don't buy exciting attacking midfielders, come on matt.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:26 (thirteen years ago)

BAE - I can't remember where, but I saw a stat that had him something like lowest in the league for tackles while highest in the league for interceptions, i.e. his positional sense is exceptional

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:34 (thirteen years ago)

United are pretty damn good at buying wingers though. What's Hazard's main position for Lille?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:42 (thirteen years ago)

lol at some amc just sauntering in and hurling vdv to the bench

Rly?

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:52 (thirteen years ago)

amc?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:56 (thirteen years ago)

scholes role

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:59 (thirteen years ago)

lol at some amc just sauntering in and hurling vdv to the bench

Rly?

― beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:52 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hazard not exactly 'some amc'

he is fine on the left or in the middle. when i've seen lille it is 70l/30m but considering bale is there, imma guess he'll play more in the middle. (unless bale has been sold.)

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 11:01 (thirteen years ago)

vdv is as effective & important a player as we have imo- more weighted towards effective, tbf

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 11:07 (thirteen years ago)

Let's not forget that Hazard's just hawking himself around, probably at the request of his agent.

Spurs haven't even wrapped up the league title yet, let alone made a bid.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 11:07 (thirteen years ago)

ur slings and arrows can't reach from way down there fyi

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 11:13 (thirteen years ago)

Hazard probably thinks Bale and Modric are on £180k a week or something.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

or it'll be a lol tax arshavin thing

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 11:47 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.footballtransfertavern.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/mick-hazard-260.jpg

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

xp well tbh hazrd earns smth around 200k to 250k€ a month in lille, so 70k£/wk at tottenham would be more than what he currently gets. taking into account the fact that taxes are probably lower in england means that 70k/wk is a lot more than current wages in france.

Jibe, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

Starts with Keane and Vieira arguing in tunnel. From 1:06 onwards: Keane, Carroll and Scholes refuse to shake Vieira's hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFkYRXlwQxA

Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

Also Gary Neville attempts a hand squeeze with growl.

Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

ha, the Neville bit is hilarious. Especially after Keane had to step in for him

Number None, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

Love that. Keane always reminds me of a drunk trying to convince a nightclub bouncer that he's sober enough to be let in.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.whoscored.com/Players/13812
http://www.whoscored.com/Players/33404

The similarity in playing position has to be something of a concern if Hazard to Spurs is actually a thing. I haven't seen Lille that much this year but every time I have seen Hazard play well for them or Belgium it's been on the left.

OTOH Bale looks pretty lethal in the center of the pitch lately.

boxall, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

Roy Carroll made his debut for Olympiakos this afternoon, coming off the bench to save a penalty against Rubin Kazan with his first touch. Olympiakos won 1-0 in the first leg of their Big Vase tie.

Twice in six posts, how about that. Most coverage he's had in years.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

Love that. Keane always reminds me of a drunk trying to convince a nightclub bouncer that he's sober enough to be let in.

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:16 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha this is brilliant

caek, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

fuckin youtube is for shit lately, can't get a clean playback on anything

keano in the zone there tho

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

hm now a reversed version of the MLS -> EPL short-term loan trend?

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2012/02/13/spurs-man-bentley-said-be-seeking-mls-loan-move

long duk dan (dan m), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

that fuckin guy

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

was trying to gauge the level of hate that'd be directed towards him

long duk dan (dan m), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 00:51 (thirteen years ago)

disgust, tbh.

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 00:55 (thirteen years ago)

André Villas-Boas undermined by José Mourinho texts, says Porto president

apoel bottom (toandos), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 03:39 (thirteen years ago)

vll-bs: u r nt spcl 1, i m spcl 1 jsxx

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:01 (thirteen years ago)

lol jt <3's me h8's u m8 lol!

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:03 (thirteen years ago)

ayo jibe what's taxes like in france, in uk they're considered high by most footballers comin from abroad iirc

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs have abandoned commitments to build 100 affordable homes and spend £1.2million on school improvements as they signed a new planning agreement for their new stadium.

Amended planning proposals for the £400m Northumberland Development Project were unanimously approved by Haringey councillors at a meeting last night, after months of negotiations between the club, council, and Mayor of London’s office.

The original deal, signed with Haringey Council in 2010, included a £1.2m pledge to increase pupil capacity in Haringey and neighbouring Enfield, as well as a commitment that 50 per cent of homes built under the scheme would be affordable.

But those requirements have been deleted from the new document – officially called a section 106 agreement – with the remaining £15.5m cost of infrastructure and transport improvements passed to the council and the Mayor of London under an agreement reached last week.

Haringey Council will spend £9m on the regeneration scheme, while Boris Johnson has committed £18m – leaving Spurs with just £477,000 of planning commitments.

Club chairman Daniel Levy said he was “delighted” that the project had been approved and said he was grateful for the council’s support.

Lily white cunts indeed. Really hope NAMING RIGHTS goes for less than the £15.5mn that supposedly makes this whole deal "unviable".

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:08 (thirteen years ago)

terrible that we didn't become a property developer alright

how's that been working out for ye btw

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:13 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal made hundreds of millions in profit from it.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal only had two bricks from eight acres when Arsene joined the club iirc.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:18 (thirteen years ago)

going well for ye then

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs only have ... half a million pounds of planning commitments?

You could almost get one of the Snodins for that in 1987. Or a Wayne Clarke / Stuart Storer double.

They're getting a new stadium for half a million pounds?

Levy really is good at this.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:33 (thirteen years ago)

'goin down the emirates thursday night mate? I hear it's a fabulous social amenity that made huge profits for the shareholders?'

'nah mate, won't be going, i find the uefa cup strangely unexciting after many consecutive years of champion's league qualification and i am strangely uninterested in our new forward line of bendtner/chamakh, although i am heartily cheered by the thought that the profits from the sale of van persie has funded meals on wheels for local pensioners for the next decade. lol tottenham, eh?'

'lol tottenham'

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:35 (thirteen years ago)

i think, pf, that the half-mik refers to contribution spurs must make towards regeneration as part of planning

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

Would just like to know how the fuck Levy managed to get away without having to make section 106 payments when every single other development in the country has to pay them regardless of profit margins?

Also, lol tottenham.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

serious q for darragh et al: do you think there has been a sea change in the top four, that harry/levy have ushered in a generation of champions league football at the naming rights and feeling (lol) sorry for arsenal's inferior status?

or are you just trolling sam?

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

answer from Tottenham fan: no

the pinefox, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

no, i don't

I don't believe any club not operated as an oligarch's plaything should feel sure of frequent cl seasons. Man u are an exception due to history and an impressive and long-proven ability to generate commercial income, but any of their fans would tell you that there's questions over financing even there.

If FFP ever comes in to any real effect then spurs could be realistic long-term challengers for the top spots, i guess. Same holds true for a couple of clubs, including arsenal- who i'm a known admirer of wrt financial and strategic planning.

But clubs don't operate wholly in the long-term, i don't see any merit in exhibitions of moral disgust for our board because they're making decisions based on the best possible use of the resources available, the immediate future looks bright for us, footballing-wise we're as good as i've known and you can only beat the team put out in front of you, trevor.

Basically, as a spurs fan since 93 odd i'd be a fuckin moron to proclaim that our current position is somehow natural to us when all of my personal experience suggests that, regardless of expenditure and competition, we average about halfway down the league table.

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea will improve again
Arsenal will improve again
they will return to top 4 sooner or later
and return us to top 5-6
esp as new stadium won't be for a while.

the odd one is Liverpool - I thought they would be above us this year but really haven't capitalized on ... anything much. Have stayed still or it feels like it. So we are still better than them in medium term, I think or hope.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

'goin down the emirates thursday night mate? I hear it's a fabulous social amenity that made huge profits for the shareholders?'

'nah mate, won't be going, i find the uefa cup strangely unexciting after many consecutive years of champion's league qualification and i am strangely uninterested in our new forward line of bendtner/chamakh, although i am heartily cheered by the thought that the profits from the sale of van persie has funded meals on wheels for local pensioners for the next decade. lol tottenham, eh?'

'lol tottenham'

― beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:35 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol you know this is the exact formula that spurs are about to go through and also bendtner/chamakh wont be at the club next season, tis cool maine

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal will improve again
they will return to top 4 sooner or later

1 Man City
2 Man Utd
3 Tottenham Hotspur
4 Arsenal

holy cow we did that quick pinefox!

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

If we're still there by April 22 it'll be a fucking miracle.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

there you go - Arsenal are top 4 team, so no sea change

the pinefox, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck it, I'm predicting Arsenal for 3rd!

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

yes, seems likely
I have never backed Spurs for top 4
only for 5th
still think LFC 6th

the pinefox, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal- wenger or board holdong them back- nobody sure which imo. no reason to see a change in fortunes there while the status quo remains

spurs- will be upset by arry leaving, his replacement will determine medium-term outcome. board is exceptional, no reason to predict trouble there

utd- no reason they're top 6 imo so my analysis of them obv isn't worth much. they'll be fucked when fergie/giggs/scholes/bobby charlton go etc

city- no troubles forseeable, mancini being given time and doing well

chelsea- see above, reverse. while roman remains they won't be ruined

lfc- doing it wrong

newcastle- doing it right

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal 'no change' still = CL every year

the pinefox, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

spurs will be top four this year, tbf, we could eat lasagne from here til may and there's probably none of the stragglers good enough to even catch us for third tbh.

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

otm obv

i'm actually much less concerned about the reality of dropping out of the champions league spots this year than i might have previously. partly because, within reason and man city aside, massive wealth actually seems like less of a barrier to a certain level of success at the moment than it did a few years ago. dropping out, as spurs have demonstrated, doesn't mean you're doomed to the purgatory of the europa league for the rest of your days but could just as easily return the following season.

aside from that and as i've said many times before, I don't show up (to the pub or the amirites) because I expect a win or to be playing milan every week (fuck those guys btw) but because I expect a minimum standard of quality, entertaining football, although I appreciate there's a large degree of overlap there. to the extent to which my interest this season has waned, it's down to them playing some dog-ugly football as much as not actually winning. any bitterness aimed in spurs' direction is more to do with how much nicer your football is to watch that ours, rather than the fact that you're further up the league.

still, 4th eh. never in doubt.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

Upt0tm

I think next season should be a lot better. Hopefully Wilshere will be back, AOC will have fully replaced Theo and Ryooooooooo already has Bolton fans raving, so hopefully he can make the same step up that Wilshere/Sturridge did post-Bolton. Oh and to have full backs again! Theo&AA are the biggest problems in keeping us from playing nice football atm - even when they do play to a high standard, it isn't pretty.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

PS I only see Newcastle as being a threat to 4th now. Chelsea look a right fucking mess at the back and the front and Liverpool just can't be taken seriously. Even if Liverpool come 4th by some miracle, I think it would have to be taken with a grain of salt. Shit I fear Sunderland more than I do Liverpool.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/15/forgotten-story-17-november-1993
^ Worth a read

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

Levy is a cunt for not forking out for those affordable homes, at some point ethics have to trump footballing concerns and it's clear Boris is just going to bend over backwards and offer Levy anything if it means staying in Tottenham.

If Spurs don't qualify for the CL now it will be an absolute catastrophe, so it's between Arsenal and Chelsea. If Chelsea don't qualify they can just throw money at the problem but Arsenal I think will be in trouble if they don't make it. Players will leave, they'll find it even harder to attract the right players, we could see a Liverpool situation develop. To that end I reckon Arsenal will get fourth because they need it more. That said, Chelsea have room for improvement, I think Arsenal are basically operating at maximum capacity now and they haven't been that great.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

I mean room for improvement this season, with no transfers etc btw.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

ethics?

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

'oi, you- pay for all this social housing, or not.'

'not, thanks'

'ETHICS! ETHICS!'

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

deems i know u love the local govt hardman stuff but u gotta admit its a bit shitty when a club that doubtless stresses its community involvement etc just takes the name of a famously deprived area and cant even spare half a bassong to actually improve it

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

....going for a song?

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

maybe they should move to chiswick and create a few potemkin village kebab shops and burned out storefronts to give that edgy tottenham feel but without the obligation to help anyone or the chance that future rebrovs get scared off

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno what my 'local govt hardman' steez is, but in this case it's exactly the local govt to set stipulations in place.

If they rescinded some of their requirements because of a weakened bargaining position vis a vis the club then yeah that's a pity, just not from the club's POV- levy 's not exactly breaking role nor character there. All for the club engaging in local partnership but one of levy's roles is to keep that as cost-effective as he can, obv.

Not expecting a round of applause for it anywhere, least of all ilx, but 'cunt' it doesn't make him-imo.

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

local govt hardmanism is making pronouncements like 'all for the club engaging in local partnership' then doing nothing about it

i dont think levy is a cunt but probably a hypocrite

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

lfc- doing it wrong

newcastle- doing it right

is this pardew's work or do newcastle have an excellent scouting system?

Chris, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

newcastle have an excellent scouting system

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

i think bit of both, chris. Longer term looks ok for lfc, it almost always will because the club is huge - no snark. But dalglish tenure has not progressed as quickly as it was maybe expected to, and that's without taking weak chelsea/arsenal into account, really

Newcastle started from where they started and tbh wouldn't really make a proper analysis except for exceptional short-term performance.

Levy's a hypocrite, fine.

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

both, i'd say. The result at the weekend aside they are very well organised defensively, especially wrt the wide players helping out the full backs so that they can go narrow across the back four and shorten the spaces in between the defenders (g nev did a bit about this prior to their game away to Stoke)

also cabaye/tiote were p great 'bargain' signings. Players who i'm not sure if they were even on the radars of other clubs or not. Obviously the 2 Demba's are more of a known quantity. Putting in Krul ahaed of Harper also a good move,

pandemic, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

*ahead*

pandemic, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

dalglish tenure has been pretty shit except he is almost impossible to fire so the mgmt have to wait for him to flake

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

https://p.twimg.com/AlsN0umCAAEIZZo.jpg

Fuck Nike. Might as well put a cock on it.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

btw has anyone seen Zenit St Petersburg or Benifica this season? Trying to decide whether to catch the early 5.00 pm kick off or not.

pandemic, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

Oh God, that checked shirt abomination really is real.

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

dalglish tenure has been pretty shit

To play devil's advocate: from narrowly missing out on the league in 2009* Liverpool were in steady decline, first under Benitez and then under Hodgson. While they're still mediocre, even by the standards of the past decade (never mind the 70s & 80s), Dalglish has arrested the decline. You could argue they'd been in a worse position now without him. I know he seems to have wasted a fortune on players who haven't made the grade, but it's not as if his predecessors didn't do the same thing.

*cue Darragh "they were never in the race"

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

they'd been = they'd be

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

otm

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

*cue Darragh "they were never in the race"

darragh otm

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

*

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

walks way from computer

pandemic, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

Wayne Rooney has named his new race horse Switcharooney.

mizzell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

even the horse looks embarrassed
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/15/article-2101475-11BF7F5F000005DC-963_468x414.jpg

mizzell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

thudd out for season

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

theyre a worse side than they were when rafa left even though their spending last summer was beyond the sort of sums rafa spent and dalglish/suarez has added a rly unpleasant feel to their traditional resentment politics

rafas last season they had 63 pts, at current rate they will finish with 59

four points ahead of norwich atm

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

rafas last season they had 63 pts, at current rate they will finish with 59

4 points different = playing man city twice?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

p sure they played Man City under Rafa.

Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

sorry i meant mansour city

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

even then, i suppose actually

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

whateves.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

was rafa's last season good enough

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

btw has anyone seen Zenit St Petersburg or Benifica this season? Trying to decide whether to catch the early 5.00 pm kick off or not.

I don't think Benfica's very exciting to watch. Zenit were great earlier but without Danny (injured, missing Euros) probably not as much.

OTOH temperature will be -10 so that might make it an interesting tactical struggle.

boxall, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

thx boxall

pandemic, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

*drudge siren*
Luis Suárez 'does stupid things', says Ajax manager Frank de Boer

mizzell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

lol

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

Some Ajax fans seem te believe Fergie left Evra at home because the crowd would give him a hard time, backing up their hero Suarez. The ego on them there, srsly

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/15/forgotten-story-17-november-1993
^ Worth a read

― Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:32 PM (5 hours ago)

That was brilliant, thanks for linking.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

love all this shit upthread, not least the ceremonial wheeling out of the most stupid minority theory in the history of ilx. it doesn't merit any more in-depth comment than that.

that rob smyth article is one of the best pieces about football i've ever read, and i normally don't like the guy.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

most stupid minority theory in the history of ilx

Really hard to narrow that down from such a wide field but I'm guessing darragh's Ununified Theory Of Liverpool Not Challenging In 2009 Despite Taking The Title To The Final Week?

knocked over like the last act in Mackbeth (onimo), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

<3

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 February 2012 09:46 (thirteen years ago)

i keep dismissing all the new manager stories as newspaper talk, but it seems like Morgan and Moxey really think it's worthwhile interviewing Bruce and Warnock. i can just about see the logic in "let's get somebody who'll keep us in the Prem" but i'm certain that if they appoint somebody who does that they'll be kept on for next season. so depressing, the prospect of anti-football under either of those. i'm really lukewarm on Curbishley but he looks like Mourinho compared to those other two. fuck "premier league experience" tbh and fuck a business model that excludes the playing of yr actual football.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 February 2012 11:31 (thirteen years ago)

bring back mick

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 February 2012 11:32 (thirteen years ago)

think i might start following baseball

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 February 2012 11:33 (thirteen years ago)

If you want to find a football manager just go to a colliery in Lanarkshire and shout down the pit-shaft - of course, it won't do you any good, they're all shut

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 February 2012 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

Lee Clark? Huddersfield played decent football under him I think?

pandemic, Thursday, 16 February 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

it seems our board has already decided that the next charlie must be big time enough

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 February 2012 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

I think I said it upthread, but I'm not sure if an upcoming non-EPL manager would come to Wolves at present, no offence NV

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 February 2012 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

Have you seen Pat Murphy's article at the BBC site? His sympathetic piece about the candidates for the Wolves job includes this detailed analysis of Steve Bruce's tenure at S'Land

Bruce brought players in during the summer and was not given enough time to see them bed in. Received wisdom is that he wasted a lot of money at the Stadium of Light, but he finished about evens on his transfer dealings. He ran out of luck last autumn and that scuppered him.

He ran out of luck last autumn and that scuppered him.

pandemic, Thursday, 16 February 2012 11:59 (thirteen years ago)

Stick to cricket, Pat

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not sure if he means Bruce was lucky for the previous 2 years or unlucky for 3 months.

pandemic, Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

It does include this ringing endorsement which I feel it is safe to say ticks all of NV's metaphorical boxes

Bruce knows about fire-fighting, raising morale in the dressing room and grinding out results.

Here comes the new boss same as the old boss.

pandemic, Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

tbf to Bruce, he brings exasperated Geordie whingeing to the table in place of bluff Yorkshire reasonablness

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

Bruce is better than McCarthy and Warnock - he's taken loser clubs like Birmingham and Wigan to comfortable midtable Prem positions. I'm not sure he's very good at fixing things when they start to go wrong though.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

I think I said it upthread, but I'm not sure if an upcoming non-EPL manager would come to Wolves at present, no offence NV

― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 February 2012 11:57 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Board not prone to rash decisions, decent set of players if you can get them playing, a forward (fletcher) who can score... it's worse than a kick in the head.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

I really hope Bruce gets it, just to see NV's spluttering reaction.

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

wow yr channelling five types of schadenfreude today huh

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

vg

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

why was Lee Clark fired? and what team will he manage next?

the pinefox, Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

my Bruce reaction's ready to go tbh, it'll mainly be "fuck this i'm following Nick Barmby's Black and Amber Army"

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 February 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

The Barmby Armby

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 February 2012 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

armber amber bamber

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 16 February 2012 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

why was Lee Clark fired? and what team will he manage next?

― the pinefox, Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:52 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fell out with the owners? Leeds? At least he can't fall out with them as nobody knows who owns Leeds iirc

pandemic, Thursday, 16 February 2012 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

that world cup qualifying article was a joy to read

kid steel (cajunsunday), Thursday, 16 February 2012 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

Glad you (& IK & LG) liked it (not that I wrote it)

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 16 February 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

AVB LANGUAGE

"Players compete, in the end, for their place and for their place towards the future in the team. So if you want to be in the team in the future, you are competing to win something against your colleague. I would put it exactly like that: performance to have reward ... reward in terms of results and reward in terms of future continuity.

"My authority is total because it's the owner's authority. I have told you that we set out this team to try to win four trophies, believing in this team. Next year it's another one because there are different ongoing situations regarding contracts which will have to be addressed so that means different changes. Two players have already departed and further will depart in the future and won't make part of the project, which more or less they expect but this is the reality of any football team. We prepare to be more competent in the present and we have to prepare the future as well.

"They know there is a manager in position holding on for a project of three years so, if they want to be part of that project, [it is about] performance level, or continuity of performance level and display. I think that's pretty basic of any football team. You don't contemplate with a reward people who underperform in any football team."

the pinefox, Friday, 17 February 2012 10:10 (thirteen years ago)

That we are nearing the end of the Frank Lampard era fills me with such joy.

Matt DC, Friday, 17 February 2012 10:16 (thirteen years ago)

Must admit I had a grudging respect for his 'I don't care if the players are on my side as long as the owner is' from yesterday. If he still has the job in the Summer he's going to ship out half that team isn't he? Malouda/Lampard/Mikel. He might want to do something about the fact that Ashley Cole has declined an alarming amount this season imo

pandemic, Friday, 17 February 2012 10:19 (thirteen years ago)

xp ha, what Matt said

pandemic, Friday, 17 February 2012 10:20 (thirteen years ago)

it's impossible to know exactly who the culprits are at Chelsea thru the fog of third-hand newspaper reports but there have been so many stories over the last decade that i've no doubt there's a poisonous clique who think they run the club and fuck players like that tbh

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 February 2012 10:24 (thirteen years ago)

We've been ignoring this all week - stand-up row; obvious briefing from both sides; now this. He might as well double up, he either emerges with full authority or gets sacked, there's no other way.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 17 February 2012 10:25 (thirteen years ago)

double up? is that a gambling term?

the pinefox, Friday, 17 February 2012 10:28 (thirteen years ago)

"I would put it exactly like that"

the pinefox, Friday, 17 February 2012 10:28 (thirteen years ago)

Abramovich either wants a successful club - which can only come about via a manager with dressing room authority imo - or he wants to dick about like a playboy gangster with a real life subbuteo kit for the rest of his tenure

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 February 2012 10:32 (thirteen years ago)

That clique, if it's the same old clique, are all quite old (older than avb!) except Cech, who's shite atm anyway. There's almost a whole team of his men there now anyway, assuming recent arrivals and younger types like Luiz or Sturridge are on his side

Ismael Klata, Friday, 17 February 2012 10:35 (thirteen years ago)

It's nonsense anyway, most of these "senior players" are well into their 30s and past their best. They all need to be shipped out or to at least settle for a bit part like Scholes/Giggs do.

That said, AVB hasn't been great in the transfer market - Mereiles not as good as at Liverpool, Cahill just a bizarre transfer, did Mata precede him? Areas screaming for improvement haven't got them either, and not playing Sturridge at centre-forward looks increasingly unwise.

Matt DC, Friday, 17 February 2012 10:37 (thirteen years ago)

Not Sturridge if he wants out so he can play up front somewhere else. xpost

Upt0eleven, Friday, 17 February 2012 10:38 (thirteen years ago)

AVB may well be too vain and too aloof and too downright odd to turn that club around but the job still needs doing and i feel for him in terms of the unnecessary friction he's got to overcome.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 February 2012 10:40 (thirteen years ago)

Judging by Luiz' not even token effort in closing down an Everton shot after a poor Ashley Cole pass that they highlighted on MOTD I'm not sure he's on AVB's side. Or he's just crap.

Incidentally I have only just caught up with last weekends MOTD and Pienaar looked like the 3rd best player in the world!!

pandemic, Friday, 17 February 2012 10:51 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, pretty sure Luis is shit.

I'm really just hoping the "turmoil" continues for the rest of the season. A Tevez-esque walkout from Lamps/Terry/Cashley might go down well but I suppose it's unlikely.

Upt0eleven, Friday, 17 February 2012 10:54 (thirteen years ago)

Napoli game will be fascinating

Ismael Klata, Friday, 17 February 2012 10:56 (thirteen years ago)

So Chelsea need, in the summer:

- A new goalkeeper
- At least two central defenders
- A proper creative midfielder
- Another winger/wide forward
- At least one reliable goal-machine who can lead the line

That's a long long way off a title/CL-winning team. It's the fault of flawed recruitment/squad building policies for years really. Sacking AVB and reinstating the old guard is just repeating the mistake.

Matt DC, Friday, 17 February 2012 10:58 (thirteen years ago)

Which really, is what I hope they do, but not before the summer. Suspect that installing Hiddink at this stage might give the players someone they want to play for which could be the difference between 4th and total ignominy.

Upt0eleven, Friday, 17 February 2012 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

I'd be quite happy with AVB at Anfield if he gets the boot tbh. It won't happen obviously.

pandemic, Friday, 17 February 2012 11:14 (thirteen years ago)

So, Hiddink is cashing in, he's off to Anzhi

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 17 February 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

hmmph, leaves only capello, mourinho and mccarthy for spurs

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Friday, 17 February 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

is Clark taken already?

the pinefox, Friday, 17 February 2012 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

I think Harry will do the Euros parttime then go back to Spurs

Ismael Klata, Friday, 17 February 2012 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

arry will do the euros part time and then afterwards somebody will find out that there is several million missing from the england budget and glen johnson is owned by a consortium of Kazakh taxi drivers and arry will return to spurs none the wiser

contreatable logorrhea (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 February 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

It's an unenviable time to be managing the worst England squad in years on a part-time basis. I reckon it's possible that England may yet do so badly in the Euros with Harry in charge that the shine may come off the prospect altogether.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 17 February 2012 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

Wasn't Capello going to leave after the Euro's anyway? So presumably the FA have someone lined up to replace Capello anyway and the discussion was always going to be who would be England manager short-term, right?

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Friday, 17 February 2012 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

I think you are giving the FA rather too much credit there.

Upt0eleven, Friday, 17 February 2012 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, was thinking that, but I'm sure they were planning for Redknapp to take over

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 17 February 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

https://p.twimg.com/Al3Enw6CMAAWkLc.jpg

knocked over like the last act in Mackbeth (onimo), Friday, 17 February 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

AVB for England. Proven cup comp ability! Definitely wants to be a dude who can ship off and old guard and start again and he'd have more opportunity doing that to Terry et al at England than at Chelsea.

Then Harry to Chelsea for transfer LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLs.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 17 February 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

It's an unenviable time to be managing the worst England squad in years on a part-time basis

On any basis tbh. But at least if you're part-time you're responsible for what happened before the tourney or what happens after. You just have to 'ave a go while you're there.

I reckon it's possible that England may yet do so badly in the Euros with Harry in charge that the shine may come off the prospect altogether

Yes, on both sides. Meaning it can be wrapped up in an honourable conclusion (insofar as possible with England) and noöne losing face (ditto).

Part-time then give it up is definitely what I'd do - you get to fulfil your ambition in a way that plays to your strengths (motivation, being popular, the short-term) and avoid the drudge of the part of the job that doesn't.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 17 February 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

yes !!

the pinefox, Friday, 17 February 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

BAE always gives great quotes

"When I think about it now, I wonder what I was doing so far up the pitch in the fourth minute but that is what Harry has got us doing. That is what makes him so special.

"He encourages us to play football and to express ourselves. He even lets me play with my afro, although I must confess that is more down to my laziness and unwillingness to go out in the cold to get my hair done."

mizzell, Friday, 17 February 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

I was going to say there's no way he used that quote but if it was translated literally from French he might well have done.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

so the AEG takeover of Spurs is a story again (at least I think it was before). Anchutz is a conservative christian dick but will this at least be good for Spurs football-wise?

mizzell, Friday, 17 February 2012 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

Aren't they already owned by a billionaire?

pandemic, Friday, 17 February 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

He owns the Dome as well, so looking forward to the Naming Rights Stadium becoming the O2 Stadium. Classy.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

both billionaires but anscgutz is worth twice what lewis is, and there is a least the suggestion that aeg would spend more.

mizzell, Friday, 17 February 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

Hadn't heard about AEG for Spurs before. They did own most of MLS at one point.

Anschutz is a definite UGH.

long duk dan (dan m), Friday, 17 February 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

'worst england squad in years'

Dunno.

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.imgnook.com/HJ3Hwo.gif

Venga, Monday, 20 February 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

pleased to see McClean's been called up!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17097694

gyac, Monday, 20 February 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

I was in Dublin on Saturday and got chatting briefly to an old bloke in a pub - he claimed to know nothing about football, yet McClean was the second thing he talked about (property market was first)

Ismael Klata, Monday, 20 February 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

well you don't have to know much to think that ignoring someone who's in form like he is now is completely daft like.

gyac, Monday, 20 February 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

I know a bit about footy and the bloke's barely crossed my radar tbh

Anyway 'twas a short trip, the chat served well as a state-of-the-nation primer I thought

Ismael Klata, Monday, 20 February 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

ik if you keep ignoring me in dublin i'll be put out tbph

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

I trekked up & down Grafton St and round St Stephen's Green twice, wtf were you?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 20 February 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

out of his mind on pints of harp

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

i was there, but was in and out of accesorise and next tbf

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

Gah, that's twice now iirc. I ventured into hmv and that Butler's cafe thing at the bottom but that was it, never thought to try the haute couture places or yer boutiques.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 20 February 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

I support bringing Brian McDermott to the EPL.

On the other hand faced with Bruce as favourite I'd be happy if Osama bin Laden turned up alive and available for interview.

contreatable logorrhea (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

wolves of the steppes

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

as a southampton fan, i also support wolves taking mcdermott to the EPL

jabba hands, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

Scott Dann has described rupturing his testicle as 'more painful than it sounds'.

mizzell, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

tbf I'm not sure how much noise rupturing a testicle makes

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

I'd guess it would go "splorch"

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

THEO WALCOTT has emerged as a shock target for Chelsea.

And the Arsenal and England winger could even be in line for a shock swap with Stamford Bridge striker Daniel Sturridge.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.martaandreasen.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2ndClassTitanic2b.jpg

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

which club has the better clash of deckchairs tho?

pandemic, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

I mean it's clearly bollocks, even AVB isn't deluded enough to believe that shipping out top scorer Sturridge in favour of Theo Walcott is the way to rejoin Europe's elite.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

clash=class. ffs

pandemic, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

sturridge, mata, romeu, ramires are the 4 players I'm pretty sure AVB actually wants. Meireles, Luiz, Cahill will stick around. After that I'm not too sure.

pandemic, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

Doubt he's that crazy about Luiz but who would buy him given the amount Chelsea forked out? Suspect that ABV publically calling for the owner to voice his support is some 'lady if you have to ask' shit.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

I mean it's clearly bollocks, even AVB isn't deluded enough to believe that shipping out top scorer Sturridge in favour of Theo Walcott is the way to rejoin Europe's elite.

^ this, even tho I think Sturridge is overrated

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

i find myself rooting ever more strongly for avb the more balls-out his moves against the old guard get

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

I think he's well into cutting off his nose to spite his face territory now though.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

maybe so, last night, but i'm all for it

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

By the way, Big Sam top of the Championship just in case 'Arry turns down the England job

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

You see I'd say that on current form alone Ashley Cole deserved to be dropped, the trouble is that the only alternative is Boss Winger playing out of position, which is an indictment of the squad tbh.

pandemic, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

is this just a fairly typical team in transition thing (ie. wtf are people expecting, give avb time etc), or do 'the old guard' not trust him and are they really that much of a problem? the old guard being terry, lampard, cole, who else?

Chris, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

Perfect storm of impossible factors - capricious and possibly interfering owner, massive failed transfers, over-mighty and ageing playing staff who don't seem to accept they're past their best, lack of sufficient quality replacements, years of poor recruitment policies coming home to roost - that he's not really making the best of. But I'm not sure anyone could make a decent fist of managing Chelsea right now, would be interesting to see what he can do with an entire summer's worth of transfers under his belt, but there seems to be a mutual collapse of trust.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

it's the first kind of exacerbated by the second tho surely abramovich realises he's got to back a manager vs these guys sometime

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

i thought the friction between manager and senior players was precisely because Abramovich had brought in a manager to usher out the old guard.

pandemic, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

I assumed that was kind of AVB's remit.

pandemic, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

It was a neat touch of Roman's that the manager looks younger than a lot of his player

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

Lampard, Terry, Drogba, Cech is the old guard, which I think means senior players with the nerve to fuck things up for avb/Scolari/whoever. Cole is less of a strong personality I think.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

Shame Pete doesn't post anymore. he might have been able to cut through some of the bullshit and let us know the deal.

pandemic, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, he's my most-missed

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

This is weird and annoying

Sunday, 26 February 2012

13:30 Arsenal vs Tottenham
13:30 Norwich vs Man Utd
15:00 Stoke City vs Swansea

Number None, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

So the Utd game not on TV then? Guess it's on Sunday cos of Europa Lge Thursday (although City seem to be playing tonight for some reason)

pandemic, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

oic, it's cos of the Carling Cup. Forgot about that

Number None, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

that stings ;)

pandemic, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

well

tbh

missing a utd norwich game hardly seems a great loss

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

I won't be missing it

Number None, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

Real Fan 2012. This has mutated from follow the team home and away from when I were a lad to track down a stream no matter how crappy and suffer through blurry pictures, freezing screens and incomprehensible commentary.

Or Sopcast for the sophisticates among us.

pandemic, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

LOL the Wolves

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

Curbishley's just a lazy arse, he'll never manage a club again.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

Looks like Bruce is simultaneously last-choice and favourite.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

At some point soon McCarthy'll come back onto the radar.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

Being turned down twice by Alan Curbishley, that's gotta sting

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

just catching up on motd from a couple of weeks ago. david n'gog's turn and pass to myachi was gorgeous. he's looking a hell of a player, wish we'd kept him.

Chris, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

Morgan out. This is a fucking farce.

Curbishley might be too lazy but we're too fucking cheap, must've been difficult to resist the lure of a 13 week contract and a Raise the Titanic mission.

contreatable logorrhea (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

david n'gog's turn and pass to myachi was gorgeous. he's looking a hell of a player, wish we'd kept him

Unpleasant as the Suarez/Evra affair was, this has got to mark the low point of the season

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

don't rate him? always thought he had the raw ingredients to be a top player - excellent close control, can hold it up, good awareness, drags players out of position, comfortable with both feet, very skillful (seen some genuine laugh out loud touches from him this season alone), and can create for others and himself. lovely poise and elegance about him too. meant to comment on him after the everton game recently - put through on goal and he somehow shifts his weight on to his left foot to control it and get a shot in early. seems to have a good brain for his age.

Chris, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

i think he's okay but I'm much happier with Bellamy even if it only lasts a couple of seasons tbh

pandemic, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

oh yeah bellamy's great. just think ngog's closer to the type of target man i'd like to see us building the team around than say andy carroll.

Chris, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno, he looked alright for us I guess, but wunderkinder apart you can never tell whether they're going to kick on until they do. Pongolle, Cheyrou, Le Tallec, El Zhar - I wouldn't've said he was ever obviously a class apart from those guys.

My despair is more - we've only just sold him, for not very much, presumably not for bumper wages either. Of course he's going to suddenly become Raul, recently we've had Kuyt up front on his own at times ffs.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

true wrt not knowing just how good kids can be. felt he showed much more on a consistent basis than the likes pongolle and le tallec though. real class and composure in high pressure games too, played and scored in the champions league, and that 2nd against man utd at anfield in front of the kop took some guts. not got the figures on me but he had an impressive goals per minute ratio too if i remember correctly. glad to see him doing well anyway, always had a soft spot for him.

incidentally i was at bruno cheyrou's anfield debut against lazio in a pre-season friendly in 2002, the ONE game where he actually did live up to the next zidane hype. seriously amazing.

Chris, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

Leaving it a bit late isn't he? Two goals all season for Bolton isn't exactly going great guns.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

could do with more goals aye, generally impressive though. obv when i said i'm glad he's doing well i should've added "as good as can be expected in this bolton team!" he holds it up as well as carroll and already has more strings to his bow.

how good's steven fletcher? saw his clear cut chance coversion stats recently and he's up there with the best in the league. seems to be more than just a goal poacher too.

Chris, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i mean every team has these guys, pekhart, postiga, prince and taraabt, etc. If they'd done it then they'd be in the team now, is really the bottom line.

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

how good's steven fletcher?
genuine quesion, not rhetorical. heard good things about him and the stats appear to back them up, but not seem that much of him to be able to judge. that goal against west brom was sublime mind.

Chris, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

fletcher is in that curious range of unglamorous player that scares off clubs with 'real ambition' despite outperforming most players at those clubs

I mean, sometimes they do sign for big clubs but fans usually react badly, they get ill-used as squad options, etc.

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

grant holt, danny graham

Chris, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

well not even those guys, who are new and may be flashes yet, but fletcher, doyle, brunt, guys that have well proved themselves at lower epl level but the odds of them ever getting a shot at even eg newcastle or villa seem low.

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

watching espn saves of the week love that shit

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

is it becuz they are wite but not english but not foreign

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

How about an all-time premiership XI of these guys, could it have won the league?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

fletcher looks a bit more refined, he was 'linked to' madrid when he played for hibs

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

shit, nakh otm, these guys are being celtically discriminated against

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

espn now showing basketball and hockey highlights, goooood times

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool are trying to collect a team of 'em. It's not working.
xp

pandemic, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

i mean, essentially fletcher is rooney had rooney not declared for svenglund

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

basketball is all abt racism
hockey is all abt fightin

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

Ha yeah, I was struggling to make a start on an XI, my bad for thinking that playing for a Big Six or England should rule you out.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

xp Is this all because Rooney snubbed Ireland?!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

if there is a type of player routinely neglected in english fitba its the lower table twinkletoes swansea specialize in

every honest toiler has their day

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

rooney didn't snub ireland he couldn't oust keane/quinn

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

from the past five years

given
baines
distin
dunne
??rb??
muamba
murphy
ireland
ablongahor
fletcher
zamora

seamus coleman shld be in there somewhere i guess.

wld have said downing or young for width but they dont count any more. would have said n'zonzi instead of muamba for DM but was going for the 'kinda british thing.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

oh shit distin obv not british. chuck in taylor for lols.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

Given/Dunne/Ireland not British either, you imperialist dog

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

eh you knew what i was going for

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

Fletcher has maybe been a bit of a sicknote, which may've scared bigger clubs away. This run has been the longest sustained period of fitness he's managed with Wolves. He's better than a goal poacher but not a complete forward by any means, one of those guys who gets himself in the right spot and has the talent and composure to convert the chances he gets, but imo he goes missing for stretches - he's never gonna be the team engine. But if he can score 15 plus in a Prem season that's a valuable commodity right there.

contreatable logorrhea (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

you're lucky ilf doesn't tend toward the hypersensitivity of the rest of the site with that attitude imo

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

i didnt go through the ronaldinho bottle opener wars for nothing

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

i didn't presume you suffered it just to thumb yr nose at 800 years of persecution tbh

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

The ilf gender thread will be a treat.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.epltalk.com/media/2011/01/andy-gray-richard-keys.jpg

contreatable logorrhea (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

lock thread

pandemic, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

we fuckin had it, i took a break afterwards ffs

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

'how can I be sexist, totti is one of my favourite players?'

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

interesting that the sky sports news ticker doesn't reveal the nature of ravel morrison's alleged twitter comments. they're just "twitter comments".

Chris, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

do they mention that they're homophobic at least? I mean I wouldn't expect them to break out the other f word.

pandemic, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

loves his banter does ravel

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

not to my knowledge. every time i've seen it mentioned, from when he was charged to today, they haven't mentioned homophobia once. not on the scrolling ticker anyway.

Chris, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

It's a long word innit

Number None, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

longsight word

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

Walter Smith for Wolves!

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 23 February 2012 11:39 (thirteen years ago)

He's still not favourite though, that's Steve Bruce

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 23 February 2012 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

If you just want to stay up and don't care how mind-numbingly tedious the process of staying up is, I'd go with Smith over Bruce

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

or mick mccarthy

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 February 2012 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

This is looking less and less like a masterstroke with each passing lol

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 23 February 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

Is it just the short term thing or is something else happening in these interviews that sends candidates running and screaming? Except Brucey of course.

pandemic, Thursday, 23 February 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

being expected to outperform mmc with those players, tbh

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 February 2012 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

Not a Herculean task for a good manager

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

well find me an honest man etc

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

Meanwhile having made one league appearance this season, well known spelling mistake Fraizer Campbell is called up to the England squad. Psycho by name!

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

Goalkeepers: Scott Carson (Bursaspor), Joe Hart (Manchester City), Robert Green (West Ham United)

Defenders: Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Leighton Baines (Everton), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Micah Richards (Manchester City), Chris Smalling (Manchester United), Kyle Walker (Tottenham Hotspur)

Midfielders: Gareth Barry (Manchester City), Tom Cleverley (Manchester United), Stewart Downing (Liverpool), Adam Johnson (Manchester City), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), James Milner (Manchester City), Scott Parker (Tottenham Hotspur), Ashley Young (Manchester United), Theo Walcott (Arsenal)

Forwards: Darren Bent (Aston Villa), Fraizer Campbell (Sunderland), Daniel Sturridge (Chelsea), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Danny Welbeck (Manchester United)

James Mitchell, Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

no dawson, king, lennon, no credibility

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

How is Scott Carson doing, does anyone actually have a clue?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

No doubt little Frank will point to the sky and think of his dear old mum when he makes a triumphant return to the squad as captain under uncle 'arry.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

How many right backs does one squad need??

pandemic, Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

How is Scott Carson doing, does anyone actually have a clue?

Don't know but I'd be praying Joe Hart doesn't get injured before the Euros

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

Smalling and Jones aren't really right backs tbf (apart from in the way that every Utd player is in a spiritual sense)

Number None, Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

lol love the concept, even though i may have invented it

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

Smalling and Jones aren't really right backs tbf

Rooney is though

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

huh? fraizer campbell?

kid steel (cajunsunday), Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

funnily enough quite a lot of the google results for "team of right-backs" are from Spurs forums. There are a few ilx ones in there as well though (including a bemused NBS asking where the where the whole thing came from)

Number None, Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

why didnt the Ox get a call up?

kid steel (cajunsunday), Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

never used a spurs forum just sayin

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

"He's played only a handful of games," Pearce said of Oxlade-Chamberlain.

"Alex is playing extremely well for the under-21s and if we elevated him into the senior squad and he played for 10 minutes then I can't see what the footballing education would be."

James Mitchell, Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

of course logically most teams have a higher number of potential right-backs than any other position. Simply because there are more right footed players and with full-back seen as a lower risk position than centre-back you're more likely to get non-specialist players filling in there in the case of injury

Number None, Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:33 (thirteen years ago)

this is an outrage

kid steel (cajunsunday), Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:33 (thirteen years ago)

Pearce out.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

nn otm, of course, rooney should absolutely be selected at a less risky position befitting his power and stamina as opposed to clogging this once-great nation's entire attack

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:39 (thirteen years ago)

Hadn't even noticed Rooney in there. So much for his exile 'til June.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

if Bruce takes the Wolves job at this point he is beneath dignity

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 February 2012 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

We're all going to seem so foolish now when Capello takes the job

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 23 February 2012 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

"He's played only a handful of games," Pearce said of Oxlade-Chamberlain.

Fraizer Campbell = 4 league appearances in 2 seasons

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

I had totally forgotten Fraizer Campbell even existed and he actually played for us for a bit. Clearly he's cashing in on a bet that he made with Psycho three years ago.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Thursday, 23 February 2012 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

just noticed lol Downing is in that England squad

Number None, Thursday, 23 February 2012 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

i mean what does Bale have to do?

Number None, Thursday, 23 February 2012 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

Sleep with Imogen Thomas?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

work, work, work eh

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 February 2012 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

No Defoe either. He may not be getting in the team but he's certainly scoring when he gets on the pitch. Thank fuck there's no Carroll at least.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Thursday, 23 February 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

It feels a little bit wrong that I've heard of all the goalkeepers.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 23 February 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

Pearce during the presser "potential is one thing, delivery is a different module".
He's clearly a lurker. Hi Stuart!

pandemic, Thursday, 23 February 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

fuck you stuart what's your beef with dawson

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 February 2012 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

look, Michael Carrick is the truly shocking omission here

Number None, Thursday, 23 February 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

he is an omission, and he is frequently shocking

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 February 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

The opportunity for Manchester City's supporters was too good to pass up. Their team were on their way to a 4-0 win against Porto and the opposition had a striker going by the name of Hulk who was showing signs of frustration. "You're not incredible," the home fans sang.

Hulk, real name Givanildo Vieira de Souza, certainly did not look like he had superhuman powers as Sergio Agüero inspired City to a 4-0 victory to send them into the next round of the Europa League with an aggregate 6-1 victory.

Porto, however, have not seen the funny side. The Portuguese club are now preparing an official complaint in which they will ask Uefa to open disciplinary charges against the Premier League leaders – and they are denying it has anything to do with an apparent humour bypass.

Rui Cerqueira, the club's spokesman, said the matter would be reported on the grounds that City's supporters had acted in an improper way. Hulk had also been targeted with chants of "cheat" because of the Brazilian's tendency to look for free-kicks and Porto will claim he was the victim of unsporting behaviour that warrants an official investigation.

Number None, Thursday, 23 February 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

LOL @ Porto having the audacity to accuse any other team of unsporting behaviour!

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

Looks like retaliation for City reporting them for racist monkey-noise chanting. It's kind of staggering that they a) would rather deny it took place than try to do anything about it, b) would come up with such a lame 'explanation' (it was City fans shouting 'Kun Kun Kun' at a player who wasn't playing at the time), and c) think that an amusing song about the Incredible Hulk somehow makes it evens.

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 23 February 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

it's p much a nose-thumbing at a genuine complaint re: racism and it'd be nice to see them sanctioned for it imo

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 February 2012 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i'm sure it's bringing the game into disrepute or some such

Number None, Thursday, 23 February 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

Utd game is at 8.05 tonight btw. This Europa League lark keeps you on your toes

Number None, Thursday, 23 February 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck Porto for all time iyam

knocked over like the last act in Mackbeth (onimo), Thursday, 23 February 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

Former Rangers boss Walter Smith has rejected a move back into football management with Wolves.
Smith joins a growing list of people to have rebuffed the Midlands club, who have been without a manager since they sacked Mick McCarthy on 13 February.

mick mccarthy emerging as the best candidate for the job imo.

shart practice (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

If O'Leary turns them down next they should just wind the club up

pandemic, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

bring back mccarthy jokes have been running all week on the express and star forums except some of them don't appear to be jokes, rmde

i think in all honesty morgan probably wanted to appoint Bruce at the weekend, and then he realised that lynch mobs wd be formed if he did, and he's too fucking cheap to offer anybody a viable contract bearing in mind the difficulty of keeping us up, and fuck only knows what else, utter utter fucking shambles everybody out imo

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

thrown your hat in the ring yet NV?

jabba hands, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

my Football Manager stats are more impressive than most of the candidates it's true, but i fear an early dismissal after I hoof Karl Henry in the balls on day 1

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

oh man that wd be so worth it

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

should give the job to christian purslow.

Chris, Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/JN7Zp.jpg

he looks a bit like an effigy of hitler fashioned from spam

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:26 (thirteen years ago)

uncannily accurate

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

Terry Connor it is, for Wolves

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 24 February 2012 10:44 (thirteen years ago)

Brighton Legend!

pandemic, Friday, 24 February 2012 10:57 (thirteen years ago)

"This is a decisive step, which creates certainty, and the players are fully behind it.

Decisive? Really? Let's appoint the guy who as assistant to the guy who we think failed probably wasn't offering any new insight into why we were failing at the time.

pandemic, Friday, 24 February 2012 10:59 (thirteen years ago)

what a fuckin mess

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Friday, 24 February 2012 11:00 (thirteen years ago)

Steve Bruce must be feeling right chipper today

Ismael Klata, Friday, 24 February 2012 11:47 (thirteen years ago)

well they interviewed him friday and kept interviewing all week, no surprise to him.

i mean, their mistake, amongst many, was to interview steve bruce to begin with.

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

Torres not called up by Del Bosque for next weeks friendly btw.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

It had to happen. I remember being a little surprised he was still getting called up in his last period at Liverpool.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

Agreed.

Holy fucking shit at the Spanish midfield though:

Xabi Alonso (Real Madrid), Xavi, Cesc Fábregas, Sergio Busquets, Andrés Iniesta, Thiago Alcántara (all Barcelona), Juan Mata (Chelsea), Santi Cazorla (Málaga), David Silva (Manchester City), Jesús Navas (Sevilla)

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:22 (thirteen years ago)

I would find the decline of Torres genuinely heartbreaking if he wasn't at Chelsea.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that midfield really needs more of a defensive element lbi.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

think the defensive element is that the opposition never get the ball

pandemic, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

it is heartbreaking, tbf, but there is an element of 'return to norm' about it- not that his norm was ever 'pure shite' but his year or two as the focal point of lfc was over and above the rest of his career statistically

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

going to chelsea is an elemental part in the poor nando story. it is p much the most depressing place it could have happened in such a style, bar real madrid.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

Would he be revived, I wonder, by signing for a team with no other forwards? i.e. there might be worse things for Arsenal to spend the van Persie money on

Ismael Klata, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

modric, look and beware u lil cunt

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

we can but reminisce the good days..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5baKpYWZ1U

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

Would he be revived, I wonder, by signing for a team with no other forwards? i.e. there might be worse things for Arsenal to spend the van Persie money on

― Ismael Klata, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:32 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nah, not even taking torres in a swap deal with walcott, apparently

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal not v much a torres team, imo- he was quintessentially the counterattacking point man, not yr 'get involved' passing forward.

He'd do damage at utd, everton

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

henry was a counterattacking point man though?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:37 (thirteen years ago)

maybe as ade's replacement at spurs. if they could get him for 5m and half the wages.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:39 (thirteen years ago)

henry was a counter-attacking point man with, tbh, a bit more to his overall game than torres, playing in a team with a lot more to their game than current arsenal

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

He should probably just go back to La Liga.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

inter, mebbe

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

the only club who could afford the risk wd be malaga

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

anchelotti at psg might try again

a hoy hoy, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

it is heartbreaking, tbf, but there is an element of 'return to norm' about it- not that his norm was ever 'pure shite' but his year or two as the focal point of lfc was over and above the rest of his career statistically

I've seen a few people say this but it's nonsense. He may not have been quite as prolific at Atletico but he was still class. He's a shell now

Number None, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

yeah at atletico he was more of an intelligent defence stretching nuisance like anelka

his conversion ratio was ordinary but he was still a v good player and nothing like his current incarnation

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 24 February 2012 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

i've not seen enough of him at chelsea lately to comment on his general play, thought consensus was that his performance was improving

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Friday, 24 February 2012 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

This is interesting

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How willing is Torres to admit what would seem to be the screamingly obvious, that he is undergoing a crisis of confidence? Not very, judging from what both his agent and a close friend of his told me. At best, there appears to be some ambiguity on the matter. His friend, who preferred not to be identified in print, said he had seen him recently in Madrid with his family and he had looked “neither torn nor pained”. “He is tranquilo. He accepts what’s happening as something normal in football and believes it has to do with Chelsea’s style of play,” the friend said. Besides, the friend added, he had been playing really well since the start of the new year and hit the bar with a fantastic overhead kick that, had it gone in, “would have been goal of the season”. Nevertheless, the friend did seem to suggest the possibility of something going on in Torres’ mind too when he proposed that perhaps Liverpool had “laid the evil eye on him”. “It’s tough, sure. He spent eight games as a substitute at the end of last year. That had never happened to him, not even as a child.”

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/e7c80640-5788-11e1-869b-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1mkh59fGM

Number None, Friday, 24 February 2012 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

lol. stung by the FT

Number None, Friday, 24 February 2012 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

has he done any interviews in the past year? or even an obvious post-match (that wasn't like 'well you played well and just didnt get the goal' and actually asked him about ti)

a hoy hoy, Friday, 24 February 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

does anyone else think 'alan partridge' when they watch that torres clip or is it just me

Chris, Friday, 24 February 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

never seen him play tbh

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Friday, 24 February 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

Still not quite sure if it's a real ad or a Nike Spain viral.

James Mitchell, Friday, 24 February 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

Arshavin to Zenit. On loan, according to SSN. Arsenal don't sell their dodgy players any more do they? Just ship them out on loan.

pandemic, Friday, 24 February 2012 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

eboue?

mizzell, Friday, 24 February 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

Ha, I think of Eboue as one of their good players. But point taken.

pandemic, Friday, 24 February 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

never saw a shit player get so good so fast as eboue once gooners realised djourou was next in line at rb

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Friday, 24 February 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

Chris Samba has gone to Anzhi. Do transfer windows and all that they mean not matter to the super rich?

a hoy hoy, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

Russian transfer window closes later.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, tonight iirc

pandemic, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

End of the tax year probably has something to do with too.

James Mitchell, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

Given that Scott Dann has knacker problems and Samba looked like he wanted to be anywhere other that at Ewood Park, letting Ryan Nelsen go looks like a really stupid move, even if he basically has no legs left.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 24 February 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

Hey guys. i am glad to see Terry Connor given the opportunity to display his management chops. I have no doubt that he has the tactical and motivational skills we need to power ourselves away from the relegation zone and become a genuine Premier League force over the next 3 or 4 years. Also I am ripped to the tits on meth.

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 February 2012 02:13 (thirteen years ago)

too much tactical analysis of torres leaving lfc and becoming a total evil cunt as a result. simple logical calm maths imo.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 25 February 2012 02:26 (thirteen years ago)

might as well ask why giggs has 300 montages and only 400 life partners

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 25 February 2012 02:26 (thirteen years ago)

“There’s no point in choosing someone just because he hasn’t been picked for three weeks or whatever. Anyone coming in has to prove they’re better than whoever was in the team.”

I'M BETTER THAN 9 OF THOSE CUNTS YOU CUNT

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 February 2012 02:27 (thirteen years ago)

can't claim to have read all of the links, but i thought general feeling re torres upthread was sympathy tbph

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Saturday, 25 February 2012 03:11 (thirteen years ago)

this fucking pic

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg611/scaled.php?tn=0&server=611&filename=96420016.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

Chris, Saturday, 25 February 2012 03:34 (thirteen years ago)

but i thought general feeling re torres upthread was sympathy tbph

Yep, as far as I can see everyone on ILX apart from me feels sorry for poor old Nando, whereas I just think it's funny

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 25 February 2012 09:38 (thirteen years ago)

no i think it's hilarious too

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 February 2012 10:27 (thirteen years ago)

On balance I'm more invested in bad things happening to Chelsea than I are in good things happening to Poor Nando but if he moves on for massively less than £50m and does well elsewhere then I wish him only good things. Unless he goes to Arsenal.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 25 February 2012 11:21 (thirteen years ago)

it's nothing personal for me i just love a good football car-wreck. which is what makes it such an exciting time to follow Wolves.

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 February 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

I am 50% sympathy, 50% lols. I'm sure this is where someone tells me he raped 7 women while on international duty and I am a moron for thinking it* but he seems like a genuine nice fella, which is rare in football and to see it be him go through this can't help but gain my sympathy. If it was someone I just don't like, say Rooney or Drogba or whoever, to go through the exact same circumstances it would 100% lols.

*Unfortunately finding out someone I previously liked is actually a horrible arsehole is pretty common in modern football.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 25 February 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

1-0 to the Newcastle after a genius Ba backheel and Hennessey save. This cd go to double figures if you like that kind of thing.

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 February 2012 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

this did happen rooney iirc they doubled his pay

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Saturday, 25 February 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

can see a good club coming in for Hennessey when we go down.

Gutierrez just cunted Newcastle's 2nd.

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 February 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

hennessy's shite, another p robinson, useful only as far as he can fall

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Saturday, 25 February 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

imo, obv u differ

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Saturday, 25 February 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

Watching the Chelsea game. They are shite

Number None, Saturday, 25 February 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

Torres to come on and score a hat-trick obv

Number None, Saturday, 25 February 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

Shite? But they've got cole, essien, and lampard in the team today. The chosen ones. The 3 players who would have made the difference against Napoli. Struggling against Bolton? Surely not.

pandemic, Saturday, 25 February 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

N'Gog has been quiet too. After all that hype

Number None, Saturday, 25 February 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

Think N'Gog certainly unaware of any hype.

pandemic, Saturday, 25 February 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

dunno whether to sit thru the second half or go to Lidl. on the one hand, we've got a lot more shape and composure. on the other, we're ponderous and unimaginative and we don't have the players to break them down. also i need to get a bunch of groceries.

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4kBcm-ls8Y

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

sold

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

non-defending defender David Luiz with a pretty nice goal

Number None, Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

They should start him and Drogba up front against Napoli and just punt long balls and crosses.

pandemic, Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

non no nonsense

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

nonsense defenders are far more interesting

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

JARVIS FLUKES ONE

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

lúcio is a no-nonsense quasi-nonsensical defender

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

we had 4 in the box too, Connor actually has fractionally improved things

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

what about nonce sense defenders?

Number None, Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

Phil collins more of a right winger iirc

pandemic, Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

julian dicks looks like he might retain a passing interest in tracking down nonces and telling them to have a word with themselves

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

commentator: AVB - Absolutely Vital Breakthrough

Number None, Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

After retiring as a footballer, Dicks took up golf and soon turned professional, but was forced to give this career up due to his knee injury. He does, however, still play golf recreationally. In 2001 he made a brief return to football after signing for non-League Canvey Island, but played only four matches. He went on to run the Shepherd & Dog Public House in Langham, near Colchester, Essex, before moving to Spain.

truly he is the platonic ideal of a retired west ham player

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

please change the subject. When I hear the name Julian Dicks my mind goes to other terrible Liverpool signings...Don Hutchinson, Neil Ruddock...Shudder.

pandemic, Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

Drogba with gets the second, which is his 99th PL goal. He's no Wayne Rooney

Number None, Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

It speaks for Carroll's progress that he's not on that list

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

Miyachi looks decent

Number None, Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

pretty glad i haven't gone to lidl yet

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

how come liverpool never signed dean holdsworth

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

unfuckingbelievable :D

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

"an astonishing come-back from Wolves" sums it up nicely

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

TORRES

Number None, Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

sidles on the pitch to an ovation from the Chelsea fans

Number None, Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

you had me going there

pandemic, Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

ugh, Lampard

Number None, Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

fantasy points soften the blow for me

pandemic, Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

reckless challenge from Ameobi but apparently that's only a yellow when you're playing us

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

this has been the first football we've played in months

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

lol give Connor the 5 year contract now

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

Blimey, Sunderland got absolutely caned today. By West Brom!

Good point for Noodle's boys even if they hadn't been 2-0 down imo

pandemic, Saturday, 25 February 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

Newcastle seemed at 90 percent for a lot of it, but we kept the ball, played some good stuff at times and def deserved the draw. several players still clearly not good enough but if this side of us - which appeared v. intermittently under mick this season - is down to Connor then i've just become cautiously optimistic

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 February 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

fuckin rotted cocks why'd i think wolves had drawn with chelsea

Pogbryniak lookin good for fulham

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Saturday, 25 February 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

new t-shirt

Number None, Saturday, 25 February 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

http://i44.tinypic.com/15880ms.jpg

jojothejojo (toandos), Saturday, 25 February 2012 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

boo! how inane. he'll never top 'why always me' at this rate.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 25 February 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

thought nn was advocating a 'fuckin rotted cocks' or, even more random, a 'pogbryniak looks ok for fulham' t-shirt

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Saturday, 25 February 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

sure, i'd buy it

Number None, Saturday, 25 February 2012 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

Nult should have his own t-shirt line probably

Number None, Saturday, 25 February 2012 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

Managed to get a friend to give me 2/1 odds on Arsenal winning tomorrow. Surprisingly much much better than the bookies are offering. Still could just double the pain though - expecting a rout tbh.

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 25 February 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

I'll be at work during the game. Secretly hoping for a 0-6 stuffing that makes Wenger resign in disgrace... and I see that as a more realistic option than us winning tbh.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 25 February 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

i don't see us winning fwiw, would take a draw now

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Saturday, 25 February 2012 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

lol what's with jol/sparky happyslap

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Saturday, 25 February 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

that lidl song upthread is amazing.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 25 February 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

has motson always called drogba drogbar?

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 25 February 2012 23:20 (thirteen years ago)

yes, but i noticed he's mangling it to a great extent than ever before

Number None, Saturday, 25 February 2012 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

he's always said it a great deal

the pinefox, Saturday, 25 February 2012 23:36 (thirteen years ago)

Hughes non-handshake / flamboyant slap thing -- what an insufferable tosser. didn't he do the same thing with someone, can't remember who, when City manager

the pinefox, Saturday, 25 February 2012 23:37 (thirteen years ago)

Certainly with Pulis, initiated by Pulis iirc tbf. There may've been others.

xp Motson says it as two words as well I think. Didier Drog Bar.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 25 February 2012 23:40 (thirteen years ago)

how characteristically irritating of him. also the football league show credits remain weird and terrible and why is the music under them so muffled? idgi.

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 25 February 2012 23:51 (thirteen years ago)

Hughes' insufferable tosserdom extends miles beyond handshake etiquette.

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 February 2012 01:20 (thirteen years ago)

i know it's been repeated over and over but sometimes one forgets until one tries to get useful information out of it - the BBC's new football site is a fucking disgrace

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 February 2012 01:25 (thirteen years ago)

Yes it is still fucking horrible. And they have got rid of the European league fixtures/results/tables like OMG I HATE YOU and I now have to use that ESPN website instead of what the fuck I PAY FOR THANK YOU WASTED LICENSE FEE THE WEBSITE AND OCCASIONALLY RADIO 4 IS ALL I FUCKING USE AND NOW IT IS JUST OCCASIONALLY RADIO 4

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 26 February 2012 07:19 (thirteen years ago)

Spot the odd one out?

Gary Barlow is to record a version of classic George Harrison hit Here Comes The Sun - for Marks & Spencer.

The X Factor judge has tied up a deal with the chain for its summer advertising campaign.

A source said he will fly to South Africa on Friday to begin filming with M&S models Twiggy, Dannii Minogue, Lisa Snowdon, Noemie Lenoir and Jamie Redknapp.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 26 February 2012 09:43 (thirteen years ago)

george harrison

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 09:47 (thirteen years ago)

really Hughes' horrid way of slapping people away at handshakes says a lot about him
it clarifies how I don't like him
though I didn't dislike him as a player

Arsenal 3-1 Tottenham?

the pinefox, Sunday, 26 February 2012 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

Enjoy the game Ismael!

Predicting a 2-2 draw.

pandemic, Sunday, 26 February 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

3-1 = £40

But no chance. In that I simply can't imagine who would score those goals and not concede the other ones.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 26 February 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not exactly one of football's sophisticated thinkers.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 26 February 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

This is usually an absolute humdinger with at least five goals in it but it looks like BAE and Adebayor will be out so I'm a bit worried, even given the flimsy nature of Arsenal's defence.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 26 February 2012 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

The implacable Frenchman will have been anticipating that a performance against his club's bitterest rivals will have could silence the voices of those who have believed that it will have been time for him to have moved on.

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 February 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

Van Persie hat-trick 3

VdV 1

the pinefox, Sunday, 26 February 2012 12:37 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks xp. Will avoid the bathrooms this time.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 February 2012 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

Cudicini, Dawson, Lennon, Van der Vaart, Rose, Sandro, Defoe.

That's the best Spurs bench I've ever seen.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 26 February 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

...whereas on the Arsenal bench only AOC deserves to be at a Premier League club.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 26 February 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs fans of ILF: stop pretending you don't think you're gonna stroll to a win.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 26 February 2012 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

See?

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 26 February 2012 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

Well done on winning the World Cup everyone.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 26 February 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

Lol.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 26 February 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

missed it

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal have looked a lot better since their backline invitingly opened up for Saha. Nervous now.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 26 February 2012 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

I know Neville is astute and insightful and brings a lot to punditry and we all love him now... but I just hate him.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 26 February 2012 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

should be either two up or level, ref a bit homey

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

very homey

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

actually, fuckit, he's a cheating cunt

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

How the fucking fuck is that a yellow card?

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

got that right tho

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

Bale you prick.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

lol not rly obv

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

blatant dive

the jeremy lin of YANIV (cozen), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

Was it?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

Nonononononononono

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

he should, tbf, continue his run and have the decency to get tripped by rather than dive.

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, a dive? Yeah, he's a cunt.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

Feo also a cunt.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

Bale has added some excellent simulation skills to his game. Not that i'm watching

Number None, Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

what did james mitchell say to redknapp that's going to get him expelled

the jeremy lin of YANIV (cozen), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

can't rly defend it tbh, maybe a touch from gibbs but he's rly hurled himself there.

Oh well, i'll cede the moral high ground big clubs get these calls after all

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

Mike Dean is a fucking cheat.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

you'll feel better for coming to terms with it xpost

Number None, Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

nice

Shouldn't be sitting off so much

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

Oh wow. Didn't see that happening.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

ALL. OVER. MY. FACE.

the jeremy lin of YANIV (cozen), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

great

shouldn't be sitting off so much

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

Hahahahaha

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

To think I nearly went home after the pen

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

ledley would want to start earning his weekly here, not modrics job to be shutting rvp out

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

why are arsenal playing in all white tops

the jeremy lin of YANIV (cozen), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

draw'll do, but not much fuckin good lettin them walk through us just cos we don't need a win

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

Ffs

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

is it 1-0 to manu or norwich? the bbc site has conflicting views

Summer Slam! (Ste), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

1-0 Man Utd (Scholes) innit.

'Arry to bring on Sandro perhaps? This game's shredding my nerves.

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

sandro on for parker, maybe (booked and ref will be lookin to level things imo), walker to defend a bit, king and kaboul to start taking some responsibility for the defensive line, could be ok here

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs have done what I think I needed them to do to make me hate them. Admiration and grudging respect to fuck

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

Utd are looking well dodge at the back (although De Gea is playing well). Look capable of scoring any time they go forward but they kind of sat back for the last twenty minutes of the half

Number None, Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

it's the hatred of newcastle fans i crave these days tbh

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

Need Lennon on for Kranjcar, Arsenal look very vulnerable on the break.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

sandro vdv on, kranjcar saha off. Makes a bit of sense but rather lennon bale on the proper wings tbh

Love sandro, predict him to pwn.

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

There was a break on for 3-0 where Bale shot into the side netting instead of squaring to Saha, looked key to me.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

pathetic defending in centre again

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

what a game

Summer Slam! (Ste), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

hope dean givin bale peno doesn't cover the carte blanche he's given arsenal for lazy sliding tackles all game

Ah that's piss

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

oh fuck i accidentally pressed refresh on my stream window instead of ilx. aaargh its gone

Summer Slam! (Ste), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

This is the most spirit I've seen from Araenal, and actually the most versatile and innovative attacking approach as well, all season.

That's revoltingly phrased but I don't care.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_m0YtPN5vgmI/TN4E8Ry0BnI/AAAAAAAAVLY/meyWTLAQ3F4/dancing%20bear.gif

James Mitchell, Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

5-3!

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

TBLITW

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

NEVER GET THIS IN ABROAD

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

This is horrible. Wtf do Arsenal think they're doing closing a team down in midfield?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

sandro got ball there but still a yellow tbf, he's doing all the wrong 'midfield hardman' things atm and our pass/move is shite

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

beautiful!

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

kaboul king wtf

Bale has been woeful since the dive

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

I don't understand this. I thought Arsenal were supposed to have the shit defence.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 26 February 2012 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

RVP's hold-up and pass were excellent.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

boring old game this
redknapp for england

pandemic, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

That one was embarrassing.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

unreal stuff this

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

king's been terrible today, his positioning is all over the place

Harry doesn't seem to have given the fullbacks any instructions either

Kaboul is our best defender ffs

Ffs

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

Lol. I refer to my previous post.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

Kaboul played him on

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

this kind of loss hurts seasons

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

is this the same rosicky who's been playing all season?

pandemic, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3_DjiLLDfo

the jeremy lin of YANIV (cozen), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

no cries of 6-5?

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

nobody is our best defender tbh

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

the 8-2 is on here

pandemic, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

like a London bus - a RED BUS

MPx4A, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

In retrospect playing 442 at the Emirates looks pretty fucking naive and we don't have enough substitutions left to make any significant changes.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

jesus where's parker

Where's everyone

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

bale on right is not a good idea

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

Can't anyone defend these days? It's like 5-a-sides this

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

benayoun with another cheapshot at walker a minute ago

We're rocking on our heels out there, our bench should be looking for a towel

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

The entire shape is gone.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

jesus if he got a second then the world really would have gone mad

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

its exciting stuff and all but 'arry & arsene really need to work out how to defend.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

of course the liverpool v cardiff final will now be a borefest and we will all pine for this game

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

hoping for this to finish 5-3, and i mean this is arsenal ffs even wigan would be looking to pull this back normally

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

fuck. Holt scores deservedly

Number None, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

norwich scored

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

Grant Holt you legend! Fantasy points!

pandemic, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

vdv off lennon on imo

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

propah centre forward's goal too

Number None, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

subbing a sub? you're a hard man dmac.

pandemic, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

vdv nor sandro could have complaint tbh, each has been worse than absent

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

what's the over/under on the number of 'mental strength' mentions post match?
This isn't a good result for LFC but it's made me laugh nonetheless.

pandemic, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

should prob mention how good arsenal's midfield have been btw, aside from ours not bothering

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

giggs scored

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

utd doing what utd does

pandemic, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

bye bye parker

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

Incredible scenes. Reminded me of that Ronaldo winner against Fulham a few years back

Number None, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

no parker vs Utd next week

pandemic, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

what could make it a worse day for 'arry?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

dmac otm, once dean decided parker's tackle was the one he was taking his card out for in the first half, that was always gonna happen.

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

Seriously I have never seen Rosicky play this well.

pandemic, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

redknapp for england

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

it wont happen again

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

Top lad Scotty. Top lad.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

Bring on Spain at the Euros. You gotta have a go.

pandemic, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

'arry looking miserable and lost on the bench gives me visions of another quarter final gubbing in the euros for england by germany or someone.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

Think we've got Arsenal next week. God knows what to expect.

pandemic, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

pfunk otm

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

Can't wait for the DVD.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

nah, q-finals? pffff.
xp

pandemic, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

can't see ye being this woeful pandemic, 'solid yet uninspired' isn't what arsenal want to be playing, 'we're too good to defend' is suiting them today from us tho

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

I've given up trying to guess how we will play, i think Arsenal fans probably think the same. so fuck knows.
I'm dreading kenny miller scoring today

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

james, enjoy yr dvd of a 5-2 win against ten men with the ref giving a dodge early penalty

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

Means a draw no good for us next week, which is a worry considering that's all we do at home.

pandemic, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

fair play arsenal, better everywhere all game tbf. Even our counters were lazy/cocky at 2-0

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

United at home, Everton away, Chelsea away. We could quite easily lose every league game until April.

This is up there as one of the most depressing footballing days I can remember.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

Wish I hadn't watched that off the back of a particularly bad two day hangover.

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

451 would have been good today i reckon, but still think 442 at home vs utd is a decent shout, if bale stays left and lennon plays.

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

Could do with a mental Farenheit 451 so this game doesn't fuck the rest of the season.

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

DENCH

the jeremy lin of YANIV (cozen), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

did the teams come out to Motorhead there?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

No national anthem, so Motorhead. Yeah, that makes sense.

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 26 February 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

Better anthem if you ask me

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 26 February 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

No argument here!

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 26 February 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

tbf i'd take almost anything over god save the queen. but y'know motorhead!

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 26 February 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

All those sponsorship patches makes the shirts look like F1 overalls.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 26 February 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

I underestimated the winning margin by one goal

I wonder if Spurs slide now - and in a strwange way, Stevenage game will have been the turning point

agree that this kind of thing makes 'England need Redknapp' seem daft and reminds me that I haven't always been keen on him myself, though on balance see that he has overseen good times

the pinefox, Sunday, 26 February 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

wonder if Spurs without Redknapp should bid for O'Neill
perhaps I am stating the obvious or the wisdom of 2003

the pinefox, Sunday, 26 February 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

so predictable that goal

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 26 February 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

LOL.

Maybe I should work through all our games.

Still think 'Wenger out' because lol going two down to Spurs at home wtf is wrong with you. But putting 5 past Spurs and getting rid of Arshavin in the same week... if he hires a high profile defensive coach I'll promise not to say 'wenger out' again until St. Arseringham Day.

But LOL... letting Walcott put 2 past you in the worst patch of form he may have ever had. Redknapp for England - he's knows how to get the best out of him!

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 26 February 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

walcott was rank but took two good goals and iirc forced another two good efforts just wide.

Rosicky and benayoun kinda killed us, sagna also vg

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

  • that was ridiculous
  • has nobody pressed Spurs all season? They just fell to bits
  • Walcott was rubbish, but took his goals well. Tbf I'd've fancied myself to score those if I could run a bit faster
  • Parker showed his limitations I thought. It's like he decides where he's going to go before he gets the ball. If you press him hard, he'll present you with the ball 50% of the time. Modric is so much more agile
  • Rosicky's finish looked very classy, but
  • Arsenal wasteful as ever until Spurs gave up. Spurs looked far more clinical, despite everything. If they hadn't got a fifth I'd've still fancied Spurs to come back
  • hahaha

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 February 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

I took a walk through the old Highbury after the final whistle. It looks pretty good, classily done. One of the flats has a Liverpool flag draped across its balcony doors, which is a nice touch.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 February 2012 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.thenational.ae/sport/football/exit-of-andre-villas-boas-from-stamford-bridge-seems-imminent

the jeremy lin of YANIV (cozen), Sunday, 26 February 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

Can't wait for the DVD.

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xyzzzz__, Sunday, 26 February 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

What's .ae and how come it knows so much?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 February 2012 19:32 (thirteen years ago)

FUCK YOU BBC WEBSITE AGAIN. MAKING IT SO MOTD IS NO LONGER STREAMING ON THE FOOTBALL PAGE SO I HAVE TO SPEND THE FIRST HALF FINDING MY WAY BACK TO BBC2 AND THEN MISSING THE FIRST 4 GOALS BECAUSE OF YOU I PAY FOR THIS SHIT SORT IT OUT

Also old robot wars commentator "YOU COULDN'T MAKE IT UP NO SCRIPTWRITER COULD EVER WRITE THIS" no, no scriptwriter would ever want to write 'underperforming losers get one decent result and still end up looking losers in the long run'

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

did Sagna just call them 'the enemy'?

LOVE YOU BACARY

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

Still think 'Wenger out' because lol going two down to Spurs at home wtf is wrong with you

Sam, please. You didn't watch the game.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

Although granted probably are watching motd now. I'm on a bus. Hating Spurs in a most gleeful way.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

MOTD then proceed to not show all the goals FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOU

van Persie goals was, in the words of James Robinson, 'woof' though.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

De Gea needs to sort that beard out

Nice finish by Holt

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

De Gea was probably MOTM today

Number None, Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

Some of those saves looked incredible.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

Looked confident in the air too

Number None, Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

bradley johnson then

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

seems a bit of a cunt?

Number None, Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

specific reference to his reducer on nani

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)

that james robinson and his woofing

the jeremy lin of YANIV (cozen), Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

showboating: the ultimate crime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqeXXHjJq24

Number None, Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

^needs a good KERLONING that one

the jeremy lin of YANIV (cozen), Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:49 (thirteen years ago)

if rooney scored a goal as good as that holt effort i'd not be reading the back pages for a week

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

Thinking in the cold light of day that was a pretty high profile occasion for the future England manager to drop two big tactical clangers. Outnumbered in the midfield in the first half and way short of width in the second.

Allowing Bale to bomb about all over the place leaves BAE exposed and the same thing happened to Walker with VDV in front of him. If we'd cut off Walcott and.Benayoun better we'd probably have been okay. Also please don't turn Bale into Tottenham's Steven Gerrard okthxbye.

Also apparently no one told Sandro he was supposed to be in DM rather than upfront.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 27 February 2012 08:37 (thirteen years ago)

the bale question needs to stop being asked

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Monday, 27 February 2012 09:02 (thirteen years ago)

Bae made at least one shitty clearance but I was impressed with him generally. He reads the game very well I think, he's always stepping in to snuff things out as they're getting threatening. I wonder how he'd be as DM?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 February 2012 09:22 (thirteen years ago)

he's fine as a lb tbph, he was hardly the only member of the defence caught out yesterday

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Monday, 27 February 2012 09:25 (thirteen years ago)

In Harry's favour, he assimilates his clangers quickly and moves on - there's none of the prolonged persevering with a failing system like Chelsea or Liverpool have been suffering from at times.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 February 2012 09:26 (thirteen years ago)

or utd

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Monday, 27 February 2012 09:28 (thirteen years ago)

Redknapp also failed in fabled 'man management' ie geeing up Tottenham to give it a go second half

I agree that this and possibly future results this season are going to make him look as mediocre as most England managers

then it will actually be kind of depressing if he takes England job and you know England aren't going to get any better.

the pinefox, Monday, 27 February 2012 10:03 (thirteen years ago)

best not to hitch your mood to that particular external factor

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 February 2012 10:18 (thirteen years ago)

don't worry, my mood is hitched to other, much more depressing external factors

the pinefox, Monday, 27 February 2012 10:24 (thirteen years ago)

hurrah!

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 February 2012 10:27 (thirteen years ago)

Redknapp also failed in fabled 'man management' ie geeing up Tottenham to give it a go second half

Disputed, I saw a lot of players giving it a go (although others went missing) except they were giving it a go out of position and trying to be the hero. Most of the composure went out of the window in the second half - admittedly that's Redknapp's job too, and his tactical changes didn't help.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 27 February 2012 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

redknapp had a bad day, aside from players individually having bad days. Messing with the wings just to shoehorn vdv or whoever isn't going to work unless the discipline is there and yesterday it wasn't

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Monday, 27 February 2012 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

Trying to put the FA off I recokon

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 27 February 2012 11:07 (thirteen years ago)

Also Lennon would have given Gibbs a shit time, was a mistake not to bring him on.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 27 February 2012 11:24 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it started at the wings, sagna made shit of us all game, large part of the reason walcott kept getting loose.

Anyway, having predicted us not getting much from that game, allow me to be the first to say that a 451 lennon/bale wing formation sees utd take a beating next week.

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Monday, 27 February 2012 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

http://runofplay.tumblr.com/post/17945292535/exiled

Run of Play is back, maybe...

a hoy hoy, Monday, 27 February 2012 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

Only just caught MOTD from Saturday. City's 3rd goal was beautiful.

pandemic, Monday, 27 February 2012 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs results based on BAE's hair style

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m01gpzSbF91qbycvu.png

mizzell, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 04:51 (thirteen years ago)

Engerland U19s vs the Czech Republic at Brisbane Road for £3 a ticket tonight.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 09:54 (thirteen years ago)

going to lol...england v holland tomorrow. is wembley a total shithole? anyone got any tips on where to have a pint beforehand?

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

Probably best to have a pint in Kilburn and then jump on the tube rather than go to one of the pubs by the stadium

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:20 (thirteen years ago)

Would love to see a player joining a club without reaching any kind of agreement.

"We'll offer you £90,000 a week."

"No, but I'll show up on Saturday anyway."

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 10:53 (thirteen years ago)

That's what Owen is doing at Utd afaik

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 10:54 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal and Manchester City will play each other in the inaugural ‘China Cup’, a one-off match in Beijing’s ‘Bird’s Nest’ Stadium on Friday, July 27, kick-off 8pm local time.
At least we won't have sold RvP to them by then.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 11:27 (thirteen years ago)

ironically, given his bone composition

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 11:35 (thirteen years ago)

Scott Parker is England captain. If anyone cares

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

I can't find myself getting excited about Podolski. He was a bit rubbish at Bayern when they actually eexpected him to perform. Still, he's hopefully a step up from Arshavin.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

It's Arsenal going for a *name* player that's significant imo. He's a step up in status from every other signing bar Arshavin for the last what, ten years?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

poor gervinho, nasri, arteta, chamakh, campbell, baptista and reyes. forgotten in time.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

One day hopefully we can go for both a *name* player and an *awesome* player in one.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

Podolski's got 95 caps and does well in big tournaments, he's a league up from those other guys

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:04 (thirteen years ago)

that's why he's not Arsenal enough

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

lol germany caps mean shit to me post-mertesacker

/jaded

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

holy shit, Mertesacker is 27? I thought he was about early thirties

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

is he fuck a league up from chamakh

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

and i man, really who is this podolski guy when compared to gervinho, one of the greatest players of the moder- oh fuckit i've lost the will

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

Podolski is a baby, even by professional footballer standards. Can see him doing well if he's brought in to replace Van Persie and expected to be the focal point of a team going for 4th. If he comes in to be in the same team as RVP and help Arsenal to challenge for the title then he'll bottle it.

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

wow, that's depressing

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:22 (thirteen years ago)

He is probably better than Arshavin tho

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:25 (thirteen years ago)

tellya, when arshavin starts seeing his wages go back to zenit levels he'll be a worldbeater again

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

I remember Eamon Dunphy confidently declaring Arshavin "one of the best players in the world" after the quarter-final against Holland in Euro 2008. Next game: "we've had the wool pulled over our eyes with this guy, Bill". His Arsenal career in microcosm.

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

dunphy and his woolly eyes eh

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

Arshavin just needs to move to LFC. He scores with every shot at Anfield iirc

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal were robbed in that game, i remember the outraged emails i exchanged at the time with my lfc correspondents

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

We'd need to buy a midfield capable of creating the opportunity first

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

I though we just did that? Oh no we sold/shipped them out on loan. My mistake.

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:37 (thirteen years ago)

ismael and his ever-expanding 'we'

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

Think Arsenal are played 2 won 2 when they have 'superfan' IK in the 'audience'

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

Before this season I think my record w/Arsenal was seen-em-twice, drawn two, inc one heartbreaking cup exit; so I'm keeping us afloat this season afaict

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

Ah no, that's not true, I did steer them to the double in 1998 as well. Wenger owes me.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

Is there any correlation between their results and the hairstyle you're sporting on each visit?

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

It's the dead celebrities I feel sorry for

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

I've only ever been to 7 LFC games. They have lost 4, drawn 3. I stay away now.

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

we drew 0-0 with villa in my only trip to WHL

We've been beaten 3-1 and 1-0 in my trips to old trafford, cheating cunt ref every time iirc (imnrc)

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

Only four Liverpool games for me - 1 win, 2 draws, 1 defeat, one managerial heart attack.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

i like podolski a lot

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

If you carry on seeing 2/3 of your Spurs games at O.T then I fear you are destined to be disappointed Darragh.
xp

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

Nice job burying the lead there Ismael!

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

was he one of the celebrities ik

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

FWIW I've seen Spurs 8 times: 2 wins (including 4-0 against United and 5-2 or 5-1 against Everton), 2 draws, 4 defeats.

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

(that's not actually "including", is it? more "consisting of")

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

xp That he ended up at Villa was a worse fate tbh.

To be fair we didn't have a clue til we stopped at a pub after the game. Nowadays I could enjoy ilf banter and questionable puns within seconds.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

Wanna explain Kerr? I only ever really saw him for Germany (could be very good, but i'm glad they have ozil and gotze now) and Bayern (the drizzling shits).

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs four times - can't actually remember any of the other results (home v Leicester, Portsmouth and Wolves) but I think I had a 100% record 'til Sunday.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

Wish I'd kept track of my Arsenal attendances from the early years when I went five or six times a season as a JG. A few memorable ones include a 3-0 against Newcastle when Vieira scored the goal of the month and Freddie Ljungberg's debut against Man United (4-1 iirc).

Only away trips have been two to Old Trafford (9-2 on aggregate) and Villa in the only game of that season when we conceded three (after being 0-2 up at half time). That was also the game when a parachuting Father Christmas crashed into the upper tier of the stand and broke his leg in the plummet that followed.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

Impressed that ILFers have been on the spot for so much carnage and catastrophe.

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

I was at the Johnny Haynes memorial match at Craven Cottage when he died in a car crash, but that wasn't *at* the game thankfully.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

Not saying this in a superior way - but are most people here TV viewers of their clubs rather than match attenders? These last few posts have quite surprised me.

xpost to Local Garda. Nowhere you'd want to drink near Wembley. The Globe at Baker St is always full of cretins. But you certainly want to drink at the central London end of your journey, not the Wembley end.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

most ppl everywhere are tv viewers tbf

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

Go down Baker Street a bit from the Globe to Paddington Street/Crawford Street if that's the way you're going (runs parallel to the Marylebone Road).

Fizzles, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

xpost As I say, not having a pop.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

(I am not a Spurs supporter, btw)

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

I probably go a couple of times a year, but I get quite excited about it when I do. Also it's kind of expensive and time-consuming. No regular side or location - I wish I'd got a season ticket for fulham when I lived nearby and they were only about £350, I don't know why I didn't. I've been trying to remember games all afternoon - it feels like a lot more than I'd thought, but that's more because I've been to plenty of grounds over plenty of years than anything else.

I can only think of the Villa or QPR lads here who might be week-in-week-outers.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

and Dan and the Celtic lot obviously

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

never been able to afford to go regularly, uni and unemployment not ideal, so for me it really is a 'treat' when i do go, which is usually twice a season. i saw us draw 1-1 with sunderland on the opening day of this season, beat wolves 2-1 in september, and was at the 6-1 v brighton a couple of weeks ago. i'm on the waiting list for a season ticket which will hopefully come through when we have a new stadium (20 years at this rate), and i'll be making an effort to go more often once i sort my life out.

Chris, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

I followed Brighton quite regularly for about 5 seasons from the age of 12-17 ish. Had a season ticket etc. I always loved LFC more but obviously wasn't practical for a kid from Sussex to be going to Anfield. Nobody else in my family was into football so mostly went to games by myself.

Whenever Brighton were away further north than Watford I would go into London and watch either West Ham, Arsenal, Tottenham (this was the 1980s you could do that then with no problems with getting a ticket). A few too many run ins with an undesirable element at games meant I stopped going, coupled with Brighton's drop down the divisions meant I never really started going again aside from when mates could score me tickets to LFC away games in London.

Crawley is probably the closest Conference or above team to me and I've been 5 or 6 times but tbh the football was mostly crap and I was paying £12 for the privilege.

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

I could conceivably afford a season ticket once my Masters finishes and I'm no longer forking out double rent, but I can think of many many better uses for the money tbh. My younger self would not understand this viewpoint at ALL.

Should probably go more often than I do though (only twice this season and only when someone has suggested it).

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

heh, it actually took saints dropping down the divisions to reignite my interest in going to games, as there was more chance of seeing them win - plus it was cheaper obv. i've been to more games in the last 2 years than in the previous 10. not sure i'll be able to maintain current levels of interest once they become whipping boys in the prem again.

jabba hands, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

Chicago season tickets start around $200 so yeah, I go to every game. Usually good for 2-3 away games each season too (our nearest league rival is ~350 miles away).

Wild Flag Post (dan m), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

I used to go a ton with my dad when I was little. 80s Scottish football was pretty great now I think about it, when you didn't know what it was going to turn into.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

btw if anyone ever wants a ticket for anfield then get in touch and you can use my fancard (provided you guard it with your life and return it to me safely!!!!!!!!!!!)

Chris, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

The game that always sticks in my memory is away at Portsmouth, pouring rain, no roof on the away end, Brighton lose 5-0. The police keep us in at the end of the game for 30 mins 'for our own safety' and the PA plays radio commentary of each Portsmouth goal, and then plays it again, and again. Soaking wet, incredibly depressed, wondering just what the hell I am doing there.

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

http://banouby.wordpress.com/is-the-season-ticket-still-an-appropriate-pricing-model-for-football/

mizzell, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

There were season ticket holders, and then there were other fans. And then, last of all, there were fans who just watched on the TV.

And after them the ilf crew with their laptops.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

Fair enough. I guess I was lucky to get into the football watching habit when it was still £3.50 to go and stand, and you could pick and choose which match to go to on a Saturday afternoon, rather than it being an operation of military precision to try to get one of the half dozen remaining tickets that go to general sale for most PL clubs. And nowadays, though I do resent the cost, I can afford to get a season ticket.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

I used to go seven or eight times a season and stopping has basically coincided with Spurs becoming good. I should rectify this really :/

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

Interesting piece about pricing. That's certainly caused ructions at QPR when they've discounted some games. Mind you, the pricing strategy at QPR has long appeared to be: "What will cause the greatest unhappiness to the greatest number of people for the longest time? We'll do that."

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

yay gerrard starting tonight after a year out injured and 120 mins on sunday THANK YOU STUART

Chris, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/29/pepe-reina-race-row-tv-advert

haven't watched the video, how bad is it?

mizzell, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

a couple of thoughts on that season ticket pricing article:

1) re: getting to Wembley - yes, the experience has been devalued by holding FA Cup semi-finals there, but *most* clubs aren't going there significantly more often than they used to. While United and Chelsea will have been there far more in the last decade than in the 1980s, that's because those teams are far more successful now than they were then. I doubt fans of most clubs (including 'big' but not terribly successful clubs in recent times: Everton, Villa, Newcastle etc.) would be uninterested in a trip to Wembley because of overfamiliarity. In the case of Man Utd (and probably several other clubs) the problem with the 'season ticket = guaranteed ticket for cup final' equation is that the allocations for cup finals are always smaller than the number of season tickets, so plenty of season ticket holders miss out (or pay well over the odds to get tickets that have been given to the corporate sector etc.)

2) Again, it's certainly the case with a lot of Man Utd supporters so I imagine it's true at other clubs, that following the team away is seen as far more of a desirable experience than following the team at home (for many reasons, top of the list being the all-standing all-singing element). The article talks about not needing a season ticket to guarantee a seat in a home match, but doesn't mention that many people might want them for ease of access to away tickets. (Again, with Man Utd there is such excessive demand for these that a season ticket is next to useless in this respect, but for most clubs I'd imagine that's not the case)

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah: at QPR having a season ticket means I can pick and choose away games, which is nice. Don't need to go to Wigan etc in order to pick up the loyalty points to get me a seat at the Emirates or Stamford Bridge.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

One thing I've been musing on (in a different context) which indirectly ties in is access for young people and whether the game is still trading on the edgy image of the hooligan era, with the edginess taken out. I'm sure that was true in the 90s, and being sold to the ex-hoolies who'd got richer and no longer had the stomach for a ruck - but I'm not sure there's any equivalent constituency from the 90s and beyond to take over as regular attendees. Might explain the slow tailing off of crowds that seems to have started outside the big clubs.

But maybe the game doesn't trade on that so much now, what with being the best league in the world and all.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:14 (thirteen years ago)

yay gerrard's gone off injured. fuck you very much stuart/england/fa.

Chris, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

very odd decision to start him, especially in that role

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

There's a fabulous game over on youtube just now, guys

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

eh, i just have it on in the background

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

i assume he's injured anyway, or has at least felt a twinge. can't for a second imagine pearce and the fa are daft enough to plan for him to only play 30 minutes in a meaningless fucking friendly OH HANG ON

Chris, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

sensational crowd reaction to mcclean coming on

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

what's the game like? couldn't be arsed streaming it

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

trap out

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

good good

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

btw andrews is awful awful awful do i make myself clear he hates the ball and football in general

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

cox with two nutmegs and a goal.

Andrews assist gah

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

two in two for West Brom...

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

cox/mcclean look v good on left since coming on with 15 mins to go trap out btw

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

lol

the jeremy lin of YANIV (cozen), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

indeed

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

yes, lol

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

oo do u fink u are kidding mister itler

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

can i just moan again about this thread not being on i love football. confuses me about once a week.

soldado scored two for spain in one game. rip fernando torres. we'll always have vienna.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

That reception for McClean was kind of hilarious. The plain people of Ireland are so starved for anything resembling entertainment at this stage

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

where is the discussion of England vs Netherlands

the pinefox, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:24 (thirteen years ago)

lol

― the jeremy lin of YANIV (cozen), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:48 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

indeed

― Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:48 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, lol

― Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:50 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:31 (thirteen years ago)

I inadvertently saw all of the game over my friend's shoulder while talking to her about family issues in a pub in Fitzrovia. Increasingly predisposed towards Pearce as manja except that won't upset any Spurs fans so nah.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:36 (thirteen years ago)

loved that Robben goal

now Huntelaar's just scored - is he unconscious? he appears to have a chunk of turf in his mouth.

boxall, Thursday, 1 March 2012 02:14 (thirteen years ago)

Smalling got the worst of it

Number None, Thursday, 1 March 2012 02:15 (thirteen years ago)

I've no sympathy, he was never going to reach that cross and he still threw his skull at it.

boxall, Thursday, 1 March 2012 02:22 (thirteen years ago)

probably learned that move from Terry

Number None, Thursday, 1 March 2012 02:23 (thirteen years ago)

now I'm hearing KJH got concussed, nose broken, & lost multiple teeth, poor Smalling if he really came off worse!

boxall, Thursday, 1 March 2012 03:23 (thirteen years ago)

Damn, Smalling seemed worse at the time but that's nasty. Anyway, today's important news - the European Court of Justice has ruled that fixture lists can no longer be copyrighted

Number None, Thursday, 1 March 2012 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

*fires up the presses*

jabba hands, Thursday, 1 March 2012 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

Tough break for the EPL, having to put up with being advertised for free from now on.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 March 2012 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

d/ling to kindle right now so awesome

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 March 2012 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

Apparently the entire fixture list was £3,931. What a racket

Number None, Thursday, 1 March 2012 12:17 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/29/pepe-reina-race-row-tv-advert

FFS. Liverpool need to fire their entire PR department immediately.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

Saw the article yesterday so I assume they'll all be wearing Pepe t-shirts this weekend

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

Surprised Spain's second choice keeper would get to appear in TV ads

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

Not sure that what he did is considered racist where he comes from.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

I think Suarez tried that one. I'm sure it isn't btw.

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

tbf blacking up and making monkey chants doesn't appear to be considered racist where he comes from

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

I'm going there next weekend, when in Rome?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

Agger's injured (broken ribs) So Carragher in line to start against Arsenal at the weekend. Great.

pandemic, Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

Where the hell is Coates?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

http://cards.littleoak.com.au/197475_abc_redbacks/101_ralph_coates.jpg

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

still don't get that reina ad. oh look a bandwagon.

Chris, Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool player or otherwise, you really don't get why it might be seen as racist? Really?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Thursday, 1 March 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

Red tinted specs

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 March 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

englighten me

Chris, Thursday, 1 March 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

enlighten even

Chris, Thursday, 1 March 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

Because it's a lol-African tribe with a lol-African chief straight out of Tintin In The Congo who just happens to a raging homosexual (lolz!)

Or maybe it's just because people hate Liverpool and want them to suffer.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Thursday, 1 March 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

I mean it's stretching it a bit to blame Liverpool for the content of the advert but you'd hope that Reina's agent or someone at Liverpool able to veto this would have had the good sense to go "this is a really bad idea, don't do it".

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Thursday, 1 March 2012 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

would they have even been aware of it though?

Number None, Thursday, 1 March 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

Because it's a lol-African tribe with a lol-African chief straight out of Tintin In The Congo who just happens to a raging homosexual (lolz!)

I suppose, tbf to Spanish advertisers, that making him gay and not a cannibal represents some sort of softening in Spanish attitudes to face and sexuality

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 March 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

... that's race and sexuality of course

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 March 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

David Luiz tells Lampard to obey Villas-Boas

The actual story's a bit dull - footballer tells newspaper that manager picks team - but that tagline pleases me

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

still don't get that reina ad. oh look a bandwagon.

― Chris, Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:47 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^same guy didn't get how repeatedly using the n word in an argument with a black man might be a bit off iirc
idk maybe you could tell us all how portraying black africans as a bunch of scary tribal savages is a term of affection in spain. either that or stop being an apologist for this shite

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

Enough of that, Football Weekly drops the bombshell that Rafa actually was offered the Chelsea job last week and turned it down.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

thank you for that name btw omino. i forgot to use it but it still needed to go somewhere.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

Enough of that, Football Weekly drops the bombshell that Rafa actually was offered the Chelsea job last week and turned it down.

― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:55 (48 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

woof.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

my hole

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

Rafa's a true scouser. Like he would manage Chelsea

Number None, Thursday, 1 March 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

Heard his requirements included the money for just four or five new signings.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 1 March 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

every window

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 March 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

it's usually a rolling requirement iirc

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Thursday, 1 March 2012 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

^same guy didn't get how repeatedly using the n word in an argument with a black man might be a bit off iirc

Think you'll find I said I can understand how Evra could have taken offence and that my beef was with how the FA decided this word was said 7 times. How fucking dare you suggest I'm an apologist for racism.

Chris, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

sorry, you're an apologist for a man who used racist language between 1 and 7 times, depending on whose testimony you believe, in an argument. better?

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

"negro" is not "the n word", as much as suarez was clearly having a go at evra for his race.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

I'm just glad Patrice didn't riposte with, "You are guay!"

Morning becomes apopleptic (Michael White), Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno...the whole thing kind of depresses me. Let's not have a go at Chris. Valuable poster imo

Number None, Friday, 2 March 2012 08:52 (thirteen years ago)

I agree, just got a bee in my bonnet over this issue. Happy to drop it.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Friday, 2 March 2012 09:17 (thirteen years ago)

i think chris is wrong in the assumptions he's willing to take as a starting point, and i think this is largely because of loyalty to lfc.

Doesn't make him an apologist for racism, but time and again it's been pointed out that the club's contemt for the charges and evra during the process certainly should give pause to anyone even looking to argue their side, cos shit gets blurry.

Sure, you can pick your way through the dry bones of it and emerge with an argument fit for a hearing in suarez's defence, but unfortunately it's not really a very good one according to almost everybody not already pre-disposed towards him.

I ran into this over l'affaire keysey, when i was trying to get over-complex in picking apart the issues half in ilx argument mode, half in crank dmac mode. In the heat of it, it looked v much like i was representing the monolith ppl were railing against, because that's how nitpicking/devil's advocating looks when an emotive issue arises and one side is just plain wrong.

Hope everyone calms it, ilf is the best part of a great site and regular posters to it are worth their weight in gold.

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2012 09:29 (thirteen years ago)

Let's have that be the last word. I'm wiping away tears

Number None, Friday, 2 March 2012 09:33 (thirteen years ago)

My default position is 'Chris we cool and I see where you are coming from, but jesus Liverpool need to sort their shit out, this
is getting ridiculous. The line shouldn't even be blurry, especially after months of potential incidents.'

a hoy hoy, Friday, 2 March 2012 09:34 (thirteen years ago)

Ryan Giggs refused leave to appeal for damages against The Sun following article about an alleged affair with Imogen Thomas.

James Mitchell, Friday, 2 March 2012 10:11 (thirteen years ago)

Think the bigger drudge siren is that Diaby is available to get injured against Liverpool.

James Mitchell, Friday, 2 March 2012 10:13 (thirteen years ago)

after 72 years, still turning up to save the day at squeaky bum time

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2012 10:14 (thirteen years ago)

Think the bigger drudge siren is that Diaby is available to get injured against Liverpool.

― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 March 2012 10:13 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol really????

a hoy hoy, Friday, 2 March 2012 10:17 (thirteen years ago)

Apparently he has regained that little extra two percent of fitness.

James Mitchell, Friday, 2 March 2012 10:26 (thirteen years ago)

A Diaby/Gervinho hybrid would be pretty useful imo.

Upt0eleven, Friday, 2 March 2012 10:36 (thirteen years ago)

someone who is injured all the time, can't defend and has no final ball?

a hoy hoy, Friday, 2 March 2012 10:44 (thirteen years ago)

He'd keep the place tidy, that sort of thing.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 2 March 2012 10:49 (thirteen years ago)

could cover any position for ye imo

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2012 10:49 (thirteen years ago)

i'm thinking of a player who surges forward, keeps the ball under control but actually does something with it when he's in a decent position. natural selection being about advantage traits y'know

Upt0eleven, Friday, 2 March 2012 10:52 (thirteen years ago)

xps darragh otm, nice post.

(I wouldn't say it ever looked like you (or chris) were representing the monolith btw, it's just that sometimes when the rhetoric gets cranked up that's all you can hear. Doesn't make the spirit of enquiry wrong, but I guess yeah, maybe you've got to pick your time to do it.)

Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 March 2012 10:54 (thirteen years ago)

half-tempted to revisit keysey with the benefit of time/distance tbh

i miss zvookster fwiw, i really hate falling out with ilxors.

I always try (i'm sure everyone thinks this) to keep the person i'm arguing with distinct from the argument they're making, even on emotive topics. There are many different reasons to discuss and wonder out loud on such topics, and many of these reasons are good, valuable and important.

I try to take it as an article of faith that when i'm at odds with an ilxor with whom i've previously interacted over months or years without their being outed as anything other than a normal (hey, at worst) and likeable person that they are entitled to a certain level of- i dunno, maybe trust?- that even on ilx-unfriendly topics such as racism, sexism, class, politics, dissenters from (usually very entrenched and inflexible imo) ilx standard positions aren't necessarily arguing for a return to the mid 80's in stoke, krystallnacht, the middle-ages, whatever.

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2012 11:26 (thirteen years ago)

what happened to zv?

a hoy hoy, Friday, 2 March 2012 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

sorry, i'd have posted that to another thread if i'd known it would get that long

Kick discussions out of football

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2012 11:31 (thirteen years ago)

or at least make ilf threads i'll initially bookmark and never read about them

a hoy hoy, Friday, 2 March 2012 11:35 (thirteen years ago)

i like the fact that ppl on ilx get instantly called out for posting stuff perceived as sexist, racist, etc. it makes a nice change from literally every other site on the internet where that stuff passes without comment. if innocent posters get caught in the crossfire that's unfortunate but i think the happy family that is ILF can work through these difficulties. together as one.

jabba hands, Friday, 2 March 2012 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

and, y'know, i agree with that too!

Worth noting that onimo, ailsa, tom and jim are noteworthy ilf hardman tacklers on such issues, is this a caledonian thing?

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2012 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

My own view: footballers fighting about alleged racist comments is not very serious compared to real 'racial inequality' eg the fact that the average black person in the UK is probably poorer than the average white person in the UK, is probably less likely to get a good job, good qualifications; the average cleaner in the UK is likely to be non-white; etc (guessing at these facts)

these are, one might argue, sad or troubling things

people, media etc like picking endlessly over what a millionaire footballer said or didn't say to another millionaire footballer in the heat of a match

they don't like really talking about the inequality mentioned above, perhaps because it is not popular to talk seriously about socio-economic inequality, class etc; or perhaps because it's harder or more boring than talking about footballers

I think football / racism 'debates' are mostly a distraction from this reality, and do not illuminate it much or at all.

the pinefox, Friday, 2 March 2012 12:25 (thirteen years ago)

If you put it that way then football itself is a distraction from this reality.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 2 March 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

yes, i can see that, pf, but then i suppose that the fact that these subjects coming up as football issues have a certain cachet beyond the limited importance of the incidents themselves- access to maybe a group that would not generally (through choice or social habit or w/e) think to discuss or consider the facets of racism, implications of intent or perception, cultural clash as opposed to 'two blokes and handbags', what have you- you're not going to get the majority of football fans to think about mean earnings by ethnicity, but you can, i suppose, force the issue to the front of football dialogue.

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2012 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

Football is, probably, a distraction from other aspects of reality - but it's (up to a point) a welcome one, something that we like. So that's OK.

Whereas millionaires squabbling is not welcome or fun or good entertainment - and the debate about it pretends to be a debate about unpleasant realities, where actually, I suggest, it is a veneer and a way of not talking about them.

I take DM's point, though. But I think racism is most significant not as 'cultural clash' or even one individual abusing another, unpleasant though that may be, but as very deep-lying inequalities of income and opportunity, and that's what no one in or around football seems able to contemplate.

the pinefox, Friday, 2 March 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

it can't be right that reams of text, time, money, effort are put into finding out (or even failing to find out) what one obnoxious millionaire said to another -- and this is presented as a righteous and virtuous thing to do cos it's about racism -- when the same people doing it or paying attention to it (including, up to a point, me) don't want to put similar efforts and resources into investigating real ethnic inequality that affects millions of lives

it's clearly a sideshow, and not really a very interesting or edifying or fun one

the pinefox, Friday, 2 March 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

reina ad was not very racist as far as racism goes really. homophobia for the sake of a pun was probably poor judgement.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 2 March 2012 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

sorry joining in pretty late

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 2 March 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

What's the alternative? Ignore it and let the obnoxious millionaires just carry on? What sort of signal does that send against the backdrop of wider societal racism?

I also don't really hold with the idea that people commenting on it have no interest in wider inequalities or in doing anything about them. But if you're involved in the governance of football it's within your remit to do something about it and if you can you should.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 2 March 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

i take what you're saying to a point, pf, but wd argue that the fact that wealthy people can also be the victim of racism doesn't mean that there's a hierarchy in which inequalities of wealth somehow trump inequalities of race (or gender or sexuality or etc). the inequalities form a complex web, and whilst not much is served by us at a distance arguing about the finer points of whether somebody's behaviour is racist or not, what we're really discussing is much closer to home and all of our lives - the society we live in and that we want to construct, i guess.

btw John Terry is a cunt

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 March 2012 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

oh yeah meant to say

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2012 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

he is.

the pinefox, Friday, 2 March 2012 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

Also if you're a racially abused obnoxious millionaire footballer you are probably much more likely to be abused in the street, singled out, sent death threats etc etc. Obviously you're more likely to be able to afford security and a nice big house to hide out in but I doubt any of that is much fun in the first place.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 2 March 2012 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

i have wondered when the suarez/evra thing was going on how many people would read the papers and come to the conclusion "cor them south americans are a bunch of racists aren't they?"

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 2 March 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

they lack our british sense of fair play

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 March 2012 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

xps, Absolutely true that there's a battle going on over pay and other things that this doesn't touch upon but there's also a battle over not getting racist stuff shouted at you in the name of "banter" that has a pretty direct bearing on the lives of most people from minority groups in this country. Someone high-profile getting taken to task for not policing their own vile behaviour may make potential offenders think twice about doing it and future victims more confident in feeling like they don't have to just shrug it off.

xp, Terry coming so close afterwards might have lessened that impact, tbh.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Friday, 2 March 2012 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i know sorry have you seen my "moaning about hiding everything behind humour" thread?

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 March 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

oh right sorry i see what you meant

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 March 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

i think the Terry case might've drained some of the drama out of Suarez/Evra

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 March 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

and the stuart pearce/paul ince incident of 17 years ago.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 2 March 2012 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

NV is that humour thread easy to get in (as opposed to a clusterfuck)? I just read the Stewart Lee book where he took apart his own stand-up routine and think I have a bit to add... but you see a thread get 300 posts within a day and think 'ah fuck it, no need to get in the middle of whiney v. deej pt 74'

a hoy hoy, Friday, 2 March 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

it turned into 'other ppl's humour is horrible' for a while

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

It isn't really clusterfucky at all, it's mostly either fairly considered or people thrashing out their ideas in their own minds. Good thread.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 2 March 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

spurs will beat utd with a 451 this weekend, players being fit. Two goals or more.

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

sandro vs parker

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 2 March 2012 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

sandro would win with his deadly karate kicks. parker has already shown he's vunerable to such an attack

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 2 March 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

at half time last week i'd have been happy enough tbh, but.....

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

isn't parker suspended?

a hoy hoy, Friday, 2 March 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

yeah

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 2 March 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

sandro is 'a better player, fw/eiw

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 2 March 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

not as currently applied to spurs 451, but i think with a run in the team he'd be fit for a top three team alright.

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

Re: the whole suarez racism thing. This is going to sound cynical, 'cause it partially is but were I Dalglish, I would have told Suarez immediately to issue some boilerplate apology and get on with the season. The FA would have been more lenient, the team wouldn't have gotten needlesly distracted and frankly, the last game I saw Suarez in, he wasn't really all that. This isn't to condone racism, but if you really, really 'bleed red', stfu up and concentrate on the team and the game. The whole wind-up game should only be played by the manager and even then, most managers aren't very good at it.

Morning becomes apopleptic (Michael White), Friday, 2 March 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

they won the carling cup though?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 2 March 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

seems to be the standard opinion, michéal bán- while it was still a small and tawdry affair, blitz it with a one-size-fitz-hall apology and smother it quickly

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

luv u guys

Number None, Friday, 2 March 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

that's just the heady sensation of the return of football after the mildewed touch of traptics on wednesday night

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

if only there was another viewing option ey darragh

a hoy hoy, Friday, 2 March 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

tbph i haven't a laptop atm and, while my tv can youtube, i had bros over to boo and abuse the ireland match

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

What's it like, youtubing & streaming to tv? I tried burning something I'd downloaded to dvd recently, quality was pretty shocking tbh.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 March 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

it's just youtube on tv, hd looks good.

Getting anything to stream or connect on my home network is a nightmare, i think i'm doing it wrong tho.

I've gotten a set of homeplugs to connect the tv straight from the router, which has done the trick, but as i said streaming music/movies/footy through wifi is horrific

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

bán

Pronounced bwan?

Morning becomes apopleptic (Michael White), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

bloodzeed, hdmi cable - does the trick

Number None, Friday, 2 March 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

bawn

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

meehole bawn, then?

Morning becomes apopleptic (Michael White), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

if you really must

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02156/david-silva_2156728e.jpg

This photo is all wrong somehow.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

It was more than just an 'orse to 'im, it was wun 'undred grand:

Speaking on Friday, the Tottenham Hotspur manager gave it as his frank opinion that the race meeting had become "a day out for the nutters".

"I don't go to Cheltenham," Redknapp said. "Too busy. It does my head in. People drunk and disorderly and jumping all over you. It's not racing any more."

His comments amount to a rare setback for the public image of the Festival, the annual highlight of jumps racing in Britain and regarded by others as a sort of Christmas for grown-ups. But Redknapp's view may have been coloured by the fact that his own horse, Bygones In Brid, which had been entered for a Festival race, was killed on Thursday afternoon in a fall at Taunton racecourse, shortly before he offered this view.

Purchased for a reported £100,000 in 2010, Bygones In Brid was seen as a very promising youngster with a future over fences, but he fell at the first hurdle at Taunton and broke his neck, dying instantly. Redknapp, who had made the journey to the Somerset course, described the moment as "a nightmare".

"It was a fantastic jumper but, for whatever reason, it just got to the first and I don't know whether the sun was glaring or whatever but it just didn't get off the ground. It had great potential.

"So it was a bad day. I got to Taunton, two minutes later I was in my car driving home, minus the horse."

Redknapp reported that the horse's jockey, Robert Thornton, "just couldn't believe it. He said he'd schooled in the week and he jumped like you wouldn't believe it. It's only hurdles and he was bred to be a chaser."

Even in his moment of grief, Redknapp, who is long odds-on to be the next permanent England manager, was not allowed to forget his status as a famous face. "I had people trying to take a photo with me. I was stood there wanting to cry and they're going, 'Can we have a photo … Come here."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/mar/02/harry-redknapp-cheltenham-festival

James Mitchell, Saturday, 3 March 2012 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

A draw not much good for LFC today but I think I'd still be quite happy with it.

pandemic, Saturday, 3 March 2012 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool v Arsenal

Liverpool: Reina, Kelly, Skrtel, Carragher, Jose Enrique, Spearing, Kuyt, Henderson, Adam, Downing, Suarez. Subs: Doni, Carroll, Maxi, Coates, Shelvey, Flanagan, Bellamy.

Arsenal: Szczesny, Sagna, Koscielny, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Arteta, Song, Walcott, Rosicky, Benayoun, van Persie. Subs: Fabianski, Diaby, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jenkinson, Gervinho, Chamakh, Miquel.

Didn't realise Glen Johnson was out as well as Agger. Spearing, Adam, Henderson central midfield fills me with such hope.

pandemic, Saturday, 3 March 2012 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

Thought Belgium had killed Vermaelen judging by Wenger's comments yesterday. Remarkable recovery from the modern day Lazarus there Brian.

pandemic, Saturday, 3 March 2012 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

Hm, not ideal. You'd think Carroll would be worth a try, to bully those pansies. We really ought to win though, it's exactly the type of game Liverpool should do well in and Arsenal not.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

xp and Gerrard really is crocked - pool in 'less whiny' shock

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

Not that the London media will give us any credit for it.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 12:22 (thirteen years ago)

lol ik

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 March 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

SD: no DS

boxall, Saturday, 3 March 2012 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

Now THAT was some goalkeeping!

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

zomg! double save

mizzell, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

DK: no KD

boxall, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

Yes!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

Now THAT was shit defending!

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

Was a terrible cross after a lovely move

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

Hold on, missed penalty? I turn to other things for five minutes...

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

Jeez, Arsenal are shocking against the counter. Should've been 2-0.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez is a cunt obv

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

Great cross

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

But still

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

beautiful.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

Totes amazeballs

James Mitchell, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

How was Spearing's spiking not a yellow or even a foul? Right in front of the ref.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

Pity Suarez didn't finish that off

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

I don't imagine that Kosc o.g. will count as Downing's first assist of the season?

boxall, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez hit the post a minute after the goal? My stream's not bad but I never saw that at all, thought it was a save.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

And now Kuyt ffs.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

How on earth are Arsenal still in this game?

Stevie T, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

hallmark of champions

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

is this seriously lpool 5th missed penzlty from 10 taken this season?!?! that is awful.

Jibe, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

Lolful

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

i missed the start of this half, who's dead and how?

shart practice (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

Arteta

James Mitchell, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

I thought his knee gave way, but looks like he might've been knocked out in a collision off the ball

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

His face caught Henderson's shoulder.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

jesus chris diaby so awful

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

jesus chris adam so awful

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

and filthy

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

We'd've deserved it if Walcott had scored that

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

Have lost track of IK's expanding we.

Stevie T, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

Well obviously it isn't Arsenal, look at the context man

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

lol diaby off

mizzell, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

RIP Diaby.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

Macca's called both him and Arteta 'the poor thing' this afternoon, very matronly of him.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

I cannot tell who IK supports.

the pinefox, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

haven't really been paying attention but has there been a renaissance for rosicky? he seems quite good.

mizzell, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

I am going to turn on the radio and find out about this match.

the pinefox, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

This fat little troll had better not score.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

ffs

Stevie T, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck's sake

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

Beautiful finish tbf

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

Bergkamp-esque

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

lol even tho it doesn't suit

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

Still the second leg for Liverpool to get back into this.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

That was really hopeless. Still in the race for 7th though.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

I can quite happily deal with a LFC that plays like this. Admittedly Arsenal are poor but even so we were really v good today.

pandemic, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

Henderson was great today, but contriving to lose that game was really the story of LFC's season.

Stevie T, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

Still in the hunt for third.

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

All that's really needed is to campaign FIFA to widen the goals by 1cm for next season and we'll win the league. Happy days.

pandemic, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

what team does IK support?

the pinefox, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

looks like LFC here but last week he seemed to be glorying in Arsenal's result

that's not very nice of him.

the pinefox, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool, pinefox, but I became an Arsenal member this season on a technicality. I went along to the Arsenal-Spurs game last week but was more bewildered than anything; there was no glorying by me.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

Well maybe a bit, it *was* rather good fun.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

Ritual sacrifice of Diaby prob worth it if this result leads to Arsenal getting forth place

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Saturday, 3 March 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

All that's really needed is to campaign FIFA to widen the goals by 1cm for next season and we'll win the league.

nah cuz then van persie will score five a game.

shart practice (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 March 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

van persie....in the EPL....next season?

jabba hands, Saturday, 3 March 2012 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

lol fair point, that

LFC were good today, arsenal were good on counter, draw would've been fairer, lfc win fairer still. Like kelly v much.

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 March 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

c ya Andre

Number None, Saturday, 3 March 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/10_01/lampard0410_468x613.jpg

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 March 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

ooh

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

Is Chelsea-Napoli this week?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

No, FA Cup replay this week, then Stoke, Napoli and Man City.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 3 March 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

just saw the result: WBA 1-0 Chelsea

what a tremendous win for Roy Hodgson's team.

the pinefox, Saturday, 3 March 2012 23:42 (thirteen years ago)

two fine goals for sigurdsson in swansea's win at wigan. first one was placed perfectly in the top corner.

mizzell, Saturday, 3 March 2012 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

I just woke from a dream where I learned on here that Villas-Boas had been sacked. I announced the news as I was walking into a room, only to find when I got in that avb himself was there. He was devastated, he'd had no idea. I felt terrible.

The next day (Villas-Boas, embarrassingly, not having been fired) I was buttonholed in a bar for ages by Thomas Vermaelen about how unhappy he was underachieving with Arsenal - "I'll go anywhere, even Rangers". He was very acne-scarred. The missus and conferred for an instant and decided Liverpool would be perfect for him, which was handy because when we looked up he was buttonholing Kenny Dalglish about the same thing instead. Just thought I should pass it along.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 07:22 (thirteen years ago)

next time you're asleep could you pass on a message to John Terry?

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 March 2012 09:15 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/MwmJl.gif

James Mitchell, Sunday, 4 March 2012 09:34 (thirteen years ago)

Finding it increasingly hard to imagine QPR staying up. Went through the fixtures the other day and decided that if all players played to the peak of their ability, we might get 16 points more. Then looked at how many points I thought we actually would get. It was 2. Starting with a home draw against Everton.

This season I reckon we might see a side stay up with 30 points.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 4 March 2012 09:56 (thirteen years ago)

That sounds all-too-plausible, except that QPR looked pretty good on the highlights. Blackburn and Wolves should get past 30 easily enough I reckon, the question is whether any of the others can stay with them.

xp haha, that's excellent!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 10:12 (thirteen years ago)

They looked pretty good in the ground. Couldn't finish though. And the run-in includes City, United and Chelsea away, and Spurs, Liverpool and Arsenal at home.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 4 March 2012 10:15 (thirteen years ago)

tbf, those last three are winnable

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 10:18 (thirteen years ago)

Blackburn's run-in's interesting, with three games that will either save them or damn them - Wolves away, Bolton away and Wigan at home. They'v also still got United, Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea to come. Bolton have only got Spurs of the big clubs (at home), plus Newcastle away. Their crucial games are all this month - QPR next week, then Blackburn and Wolves on consecutive weekends. I think Wigan are going to be destroyed by successive games against Stoke, Chelsea, Man U and Arsenal, and their last two - Blackburn and Wolves - will be too late. Can't see Wolves getting a point in April, so this month is crucial for them.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 4 March 2012 10:21 (thirteen years ago)

xpost I don't think they are, really. No chance of beating Spurs, and it would require Liverpool or Arsenal to have massive off-days. I know it happens, but not often enough for me to realistically expect anything from those games.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 4 March 2012 10:22 (thirteen years ago)

the no of times 'spurs' keeps coming up gladdens me til i remember that we'll be playing a lot of teams fighting for epl lives come season's end, which mightn't suit us.

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 10:38 (thirteen years ago)

if we continue to play like we did last Saturday then i think there are points to be had in April. my biggest question at the moment is "was last week a blip?" today will be another decent test, and it won't be about points so much as putting another convincing performance together. it'll be interesting to see whether he changes last week's side to accommodate Fletcher or Bassong, i don't think it'd be mad to play 2 up front at Fulham. but we must continue to pass the ball to feet and get men into the box, not return to the kick and chase shite we were playing under Mick.

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 March 2012 10:40 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez is a cunt but that mazy run through the Arsenal back line yesterday was astonishing.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:00 (thirteen years ago)

It was amazing how many times he took it through Koscielny, I think it was, with a single touch when cutting in. It was nothing flash either, there must be a quirk in his body language that completely throws defenders.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

I see that there is some QPR documentary on the Beeb tonight. May be worth a watch on iplayer.
Gylfi Sigurdsson is a lovely player. Would happily have him at LFC if Hoffenheim don't want him back at the end of the season. Not that I make the decisions at Anfield tbh.

pandemic, Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:18 (thirteen years ago)

The Four Year Plan is worth watching whatever your feelings about QPR: a startling insight into just how badly a football club can be run. There are some genuinely jaw dropping bits in there.

Here's the trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5xAmAjZ1mY

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:21 (thirteen years ago)

I think Wigan are just too poor to stay up and it looks like all the fight's gone out of Bolton now, they seem to just stand aside and let teams win. Coyle and Martinez just have so much residual goodwill towards them that people seem to be barely batting an eyelid at the prospect of them taking reasonably well established Premiership teams down so limply.

Of the remaining three, fuck knows who. Blackburn seem to have the most ability to wring out an astonishing result and QPR may just have enough talent in their squad. God knows about Wolves.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:23 (thirteen years ago)

yeah.

can Villa still slide into this morass? McLeish looks like a dude capable of inspiring a tailspin to me.

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:25 (thirteen years ago)

Really looking fwd to Four Year Plan

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:27 (thirteen years ago)

Villa are too far ahead. There was an interesting piece in WSC about the ennui from fans around Boundary Park, after a decade labouring in a division they've got no chance of winning. The feeling was they wouldn't mind a crack at the championship.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

lol Boundary Park, is that even right?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

just checked Villa's run-in. we'll see.

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:33 (thirteen years ago)

Unless you're talking about Oldham, then no
xp

pandemic, Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:33 (thirteen years ago)

Boundary Park's Oldham. Do you mean Ewood? You can't mean Villa Park? Villa fans surely don't fancy a crack at the Championship?

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:34 (thirteen years ago)

Of the remaining relegation-threatened teams, Villa only have to play Bolton, so the potential for six-pointers is pretty low. They still have Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, United and Spurs to play though, plus games against clubs like Norwich, Fulham and Sunderland who you'd expect to comfortably take them down.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:35 (thirteen years ago)

They'll be cheering McLeish from the rafters when he brings them to the promised land.

pandemic, Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

yeah. there are a lot of points still to play for and tho i fully expect it to be 3 from the current bottom 5 history has a habit of throwing up a last-minute disaster and a pointless run from Villa now cd get some nerves jangling

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

i suspect the degree of anticipation i'm feeling about today's game is more to do with not having been to the pub all week than anything

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

Finding it increasingly hard to imagine QPR staying up.

That's the impression I get from most R's fans and the players too, to the extent I've read any quotes from them. Still, while it seems like inside the club there's this sense of resignation to the inevitable, outside observers seem to have much more faith in the side's capacity to stay up. I wonder, therefore, if a little bit of self-belief (although I guess that might require a decent win, so catch 22) could go a lot further at Loftus Road than any other club because, as Matt says, they do seem to have the talent to stay up. I never really thought that a lack of self-confidence be so debilitating but it would be such a waste if QPR end up going down, simply because everyone involved assumed they would.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/mar/03/ryan-giggs-paul-scholes-manchester-united

really interesting article.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

i'm still v. wary of QPR putting a run together. Bolton and Wigan seem like the no-hopers, but after that us, Rangers and Blackburn all seem to be capable of more than we're achieving when we click.

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

Wonder if Rafa has a masterplan to get Liverpool into Europe?

James Mitchell, Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

I think if QPR do go down, Cissé's red card against Wolves will be seen as the turning point. With him in the team, alongside Zamora, I think we would have beaten Wolves, Fulham and Everton. And that would have buoyed confidence for the run-in. I supect we'll end up having a string of glorious 3-2 defeats against the big clubs, with all observers saying how unlucky we were, and ignoring the myriad games we failed to win but should have. I have no time for the notion of luck over the course of the season: lot's of Rs fans saying we're unlucky to be where we are. Bad luck might turn a game, but incompetence turns a season.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

LFC already in Europe next season.

pandemic, Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

NB52!

nortei nortey (cozen), Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

Like Lennon and McCartney, the hits keep coming for Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes

Honestly don't think you could write a cornier first line than this if you tried.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

pretty poisonous atmos at the sportsdirect arena

nortei nortey (cozen), Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

xpost And gramatically incorrect. In what sense do Lennon and McCartney keep coming for Giggs and Scholes?

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

fear that their wives have been bedded

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:37 (thirteen years ago)

or their kids taken to school

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:37 (thirteen years ago)

I was talking about Bolton (many xps), Burnden Park is what I meant.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:37 (thirteen years ago)

Burnden Park is no more. You meant the Reebok all along.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

Fifteen years ago I'd've been right.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:39 (thirteen years ago)

also about Liverpool

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

Surprised you made it to the Emirates last week and weren't standing forlornly at a block of flats insisting the Gunners play at Highbury
xp

pandemic, Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

what is that on demba ba's bonce

nortei nortey (cozen), Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

(looks jizzy)

nortei nortey (cozen), Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

Heh xxp. My dad & I sneaked into Highbury Square afterwards (it's a gated development with guards naturally, but has quite a long delay before the gates close). It's quite swish. One of the flats had a big Liverpool flag on display. There was nothing corresponding for Arsenal.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

xpost Did have a Coventry-supporting friend who in the early 90s turned up at Plough Lane for their away game v Wimbledon. Several years too late.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

Ha
Almost broke my ankle at Plough Lane, the away terrace seemed to consist of nothing but rubble iirc

pandemic, Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

Catching up on MOTD. Sturridge looking v much like Torres. So Chelsea have two £50 million centre forwards. They must be pleased.

AVB doesn't want to work for these shower anymore does he? Give me my payoff and I'll go somewhere where the players ego is a little closer to their current ability rather than their ability of 5 years ago.

pandemic, Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

That one-on-one he missed was completely hopeless.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17249760

Moyes OTM here. It'll never happen clearly, but nice to see someone in a prominent position actually saying it.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

Looked like he was going to do a Pele, and then he couldn't even manage the heroic miss.
xp

pandemic, Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

It was as if he was trying for that, only halfway through to forget what it was Pele actually did.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

Or who Pele actually was more likely.

pandemic, Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

1337:
BREAKING NEWS

Andre Villas-Boas has been sacked as Chelsea manager

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

AVB gone!

nortei nortey (cozen), Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

bye avb

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

Farewell AVB. Fuck Chelsea.

pandemic, Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

hope he gets a decent job

nortei nortey (cozen), Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

One of today's papers had Rafa ready to be announced "by Tuesday". Maybe the Fourth Estate called it right?

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

Don't go to Inter!!!

pandemic, Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

Poor AVB. He seemed so sad last night.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

(and fuck Chelsea)

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

save, keeper!

are they going to sack torres while they're at it?

nortei nortey (cozen), Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

should've been kept on and got rid of the troublemaking players. Whoever comes in is going to have to deal with that (unless mourinho comes in end of season and they like him obviously).
I can see chelsea going the caretaker route and appointing Mourinho or someone at the end of season

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

Lamps, Drogs, Cechy and all them are going to suddenly start performing now?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

unless rafa really is a done deal

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs could do worse if we need a new manager in the summer. Suspect it'll be Inter, though.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

Di Matteo in interim charge. Would prob be a good gig for Rafa, but don't want to have to root for Chelsea so hope he doesn't go there.

I would happily take AVB at Anfield. Kenny not going anywhere tho obviously.

pandemic, Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea say it's RDM to the end of the season.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

"With immediate effect Roberto Di Matteo has been appointed first-team coach on an interim basis until the end of the season."
lol

James Mitchell, Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

That's so shit. RdM seems alright in general, but this is just basically an acknowledgment that boss at Stamford Bridge is just a popularity contest.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

Bring back Wilkins!

pandemic, Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

The smart move would've been to make JT and Lamps joint caretakers & lance the boil in an Ashley/Shearer-style masterstroke.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

I read somewhere the first team squad couldn't stand Di Matteo either ...

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

please let that be true

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

But I'd feel bad for di Matteo if he gets that treatment now, at least avb won't be ruined by this.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

Ha, well done Lee Cattermole, red card for dissent after the final whistle (and repeated warnings from the ref)

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

so how much will these 104 days of AVB cost roman?

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

lol lee cattermole what a dick

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

a little less than 0.1% of his assets

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

£330,000 a day, apparently.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

£2.15mn per Premier League win.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

Struggling to see how Di Matteo until the end of the season is supposed to be better than Villas Boas.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

Also keeping Guus Hiddink sitting around for most of the season and then sacking AVB a fortnight after he pisses off to Anzhi is some next level stupidity.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

Come on Fulham. Another part of the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham needs you to win this one.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

Wow The Pog's got 3 goals in 3 games! What a signing.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

3 goals in 3 shots even!

nortei nortey (cozen), Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

And another!

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

4 in 4!

nortei nortey (cozen), Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

Thought he was outstanding last week. Very tidy centre forward. Great spot by Jol. Could have done with him in Hoops.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't pandemic say he was crap?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

Is there anything more likely to piss fans off than when the camera cuts to the bench after your struggling team has conceded yet another and you see players laughing?

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

well he only scored 1 in 14 for stuttgart this season. so its surprising i guess,

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

I have a vague memory of Pogrebnyak being the higher rated player (or at least he was keeping him out of the national team) when Pavlyuchenko went to Spurs.

Number None, Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

fulham are going eighth if they win this. pleasing.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

xp He's never been that prolific, really. He had one outstanding season for Zenit when he was the top scorer in the UEFA cup. Pav's the more complete player but he's an effective presence and clearly suited to English football.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

No Bale apparently

Number None, Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

Friedel, Walker, Ling, Kaboul, Essou-Ekotto, Livermore, Sandro, Lennon, Modric, Saha, Adebayor

De Gea, Jones, Evans, Ferdinand, Evra, Scholes, Carrick, Nani, Rooney, Young, Welbeck

Number None, Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

Look at Wolves today and tell me 30 points won't be enough to stay up.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

that'll hurt, if you assume he'd have played in fucking position, which i don't

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

Can't find a stream for Fulham :(

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

deuce

Wild Flag Post (dan m), Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

and a third for pog

Wild Flag Post (dan m), Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

daaaaaamn

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

Where u watchin this dan m

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

FEED THE POGREBNYAK AND HE'LL SCORE.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

firstr0wsp0rts d0t eu

Wild Flag Post (dan m), Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

ta

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

re pogrebniyak

Didn't pandemic say he was crap?

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, March 4, 2012 2:50 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I did indeed! And mea cupla'd on the Fulham thread I think.

pandemic, Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

Bale and VDV out, Parker suspended, Modric on the left, gonna get destroyed.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

Nice piece of backstory about Freidel though

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

Fox Soccer billing Man U-Spurs as Clash Of The Giants! I'm almost excited.

pandemic, Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

Nice to see Greedy settling in.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 4 March 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

Shame about AVB. Lampard and EBCJT obv. run the shop. I like di Matteo, hope this doesn't paint him in a bad light so he can still get a good job afterwards.

Gonna go download motd because i missed the weekends football but rvp is easily the leagues best player, right? I am going to hate Real next season for playing him amongst equals when he should be at Arsenal, looking a god amongst men.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 4 March 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

Great finish, unlucky.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

fu

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

lol he stopped it going in then handled it

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 4 March 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

really unlucky.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 4 March 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

its all spurs though they should be winning

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 4 March 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

Jack Butcher on Twitter: "Adebayor is getting more and more frustrating to watch, like a bag of revels, you just don't know what you're going to get."

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 4 March 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

v sick of being 'unlucky' vs utd/refs

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

rvp is easily the leagues best player, right?

Song is Arsenal's best player.

boxall, Sunday, 4 March 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

predictablissimo

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

is that not typical

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 4 March 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

cuuuunts

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

not unlucky there. Just a bit of crap defending.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 4 March 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

United finally have the goal their first half dominance merited

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 4 March 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

That was so so predictable after 45 minutes of largely unthreatening dominance. United will come back several times stronger in the second half.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

cuuuuuuunts

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

not sure I can face watching the inevitable crushing despair that will be the second half

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

not sure I can face watching the inevitable crushing despair that will be the second half rest of the season

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

well yeah if we're in fourth by the end of this month I'll be overjoyed

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

performance of champions

Number None, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

cunts fuckn cunts fuck them fuck those other cunts fuckin cuuunts

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

refs a cunt friedel's fuckin made a cunt of it, walker's not cunting done it and cunt it any cunt but that cunt

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

Rafael needs to come on though cos Jones is looking good for a red. It's come to something when i'm recommending Rafael as a safe option

Number None, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

you're utd nobody's gonna send ye off cos everyone's a cunt

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

Just looked at United's run-in. With the exception of City away on April 30th, it's piss easy. If they win this one and are still within a couple of points of City by next month that fixture's going to be absolutely massive.

Cunts obv.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

obv

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

performance of cunts

Number None, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

what a save.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

great save

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

what a great save

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

It's getting not much acclaim, but that was extraordinary. I wonder how many points they owe to de Gea this season?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

strike

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

ffs

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

Think this is payback for the Fulham game we really didn't deserve to win.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

walker, you're a cunt.

If you won't play rb then fuck off.

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

dear 'arry teach your team to defend ffs. (esp if you want to win euro champs/world cup) Spurs were all over utd.

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

Glad to see Spurs worked on defending after the Arsenal game.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

When are Utd going to get their payback exactly?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

Hurrah!

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

pleased 4u nbs

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

why is modric so bad at set pieces?

mizzell, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

fuck's sake how how how are we still losing games for want of full backs that will just wake the fuck up basic set plays. Most other teams can manage this.

A Young still on the pitch, huh

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

seems churlish to blame harry for two individual mistakes leading to goals when his team is dominating the game.

mizzell, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

This is brutal.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

now that's a beauty

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

WOOF!

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

so...

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

a young still on the pitch huh

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

FFS.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

not 'blaming' harry, though walker going walkies twice in such an important game does not reflect well on a manager when he's been doing it all season and the more defensively-minded alternative is on loan.

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

winning 2-0 when you've been shite and dominated is silly enough, winning 3-0 when you've been shite and dominated is just self-parodic.

Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

saha wouldn't lift his arse to fart today, and hardly worth pointing out how useless our two big strikers are under a long ball or cross. Funny how rumplestiltskin got on the end of a fucking corner the other end.

No point enthusing over our possessoon btwn boxes when nobody in white looks like doing anything important inside the 18yd line

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

Are Utd actually really good somehow? This sort of thing is totally wrecking my confidence in my football-watching ability.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

ik welcome to my world. Utd are shit at everything except punishment.

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

Might as well bring Defoe on, he can usually be relied upon to chase lost causes, everyone else except Lennon has their head down now.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

livermore/sandro ok in a 5, never enough in a 4 with modric cutting in all game, kranjcar should have been on at ht.

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

had to leave the pub that was fucking unwatchable

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

been a bad 140 mins alright.

Can live with a shitty record against top four, tbh, it's fucking settling for it that grates.

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

Modric an endless procession of ineffectual passes and deadballs hitting the first defender, Walker just useless, was expecting balloons to fall from the top of the stand the 1,000th time Adebayor chested down a lobbed ball 25 yards out

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

lol turned the radio on 5 secs before 3-1

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

yeah yeah what fuckin ever

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

zero consolation goal

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

Should have been playing him all season.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

he/we wouldn't have scored it at 1/2-0 matt

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

walker with a fine cross too. Quite a game from him.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

tyler you cunt, fyi the scoreline absolutely does tell the whole story

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe, he's still our best finisher though.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

Angry Rich the Spurs fan, on 81111: "When Modric had his head turned by Chelsea he was left out of the team. Harry has been dancing to the FA's tune since Capello went stating how flattered etc he is. Hypocrite?"

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

i'll give defoe this- he seems to realise that, in a two man frontline, it's occasionally fucking customary for at least one cunt to face fucking forward

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

I can't wait for Ferguson to retire

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

at least you support teams that have beaten him, tbf

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

Angry Rich makes a good point, I for one was fully expecting HR to literally shit on a George Cross flag during a live press conference

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

anyway, Spurs fifth by Apr 1 I'm calling it now

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

lol. Ashley Young may be the platonic ideal of the the current Utd Player. By and large he was terrible today but he still got an assist and two cracking goals.

Number None, Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

and MotM

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

spurs have third wrapped up, we've had a very spursy week but let's not be stupid, third will be a done deal before the last day.

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:16 (thirteen years ago)

gnev - "when that spurs goal was disallowed, you felt 'something was happening'"

yes, yes that is very true indeed.

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

spurs have third wrapped up, we've had a very spursy week but let's not be stupid, third will be a done deal before the last day.

Who're you trying to convince?

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

good point, last word on it from me til i c&p that with the date on it in may

gnev wants to know why b rodgers isn't higher than p guardiola in bookie's odds for chelsea

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

while it's entirely plausible that Arsenal will go to shit again btwn now and May 13, I'll be amazed if they don't gain more than four points' ground on Spurs in their next four games

Chelsea don't have an esp good or bad next few fixtures but there's a p obv factor which I could see being a psychological turning point for ~certain players~

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

Why on earth would Guardiola take the Chelsea job?

boxall, Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

when you see what jol has done at fulham in a short time you'd wonder how he'd handle expectations at spurs

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

the resulting creation of the first 1,000,000 post thread on ILX would make it a worthwhile venture imho

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

i'd be amazed if spurs continuing our poor form against other top 5/6 teams affected the rest of our season that much

I'd be amazed if arsenal's flakers put a run together that was down to anything but a fixture blip re us and themselves

Chelsea are more of a threat for third, and i think if we'd to lose to utd this weekend i'm happier that chelsea dropped points than arsenal, tho obv an lfc win would have been better

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

it would be a statistically incredible thread, 1,000,000 posts consisting of just 3,000,002 characters- one 'jol out', the rest 'lol'

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

xp I'll be surprised if it's you c&p'ing that come end of the season, matey

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

if we don't finish third i think arry will go

u_u

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

not getting any less enraged watching Modric for the second goal

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:14 (thirteen years ago)

Liam Brady looking withered when approached with The McClean Question

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

can't believe spurs aren't going to win the league.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

fouls in newcastle v sunderland are amazing

jabba hands, Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

countdown to st totteringham's day starts now

nortei nortey (cozen), Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

literally decomposing now that spurs aren't going to win the league

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

question for caek/ppl who know FIFA rules better than me/ppl who don't but can be bothered looking them up

in 'the letter of the law' is there any provision to book players for obvious simulation, even after they've been on the end of a red card offence?

referring, as you might expect, to Tiote being an utter prick and going down as if concussed after getting very mildly struck by Sessegnon's arm - don't hold out much hope but would like to see this shit being discouraged asap

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

^ if there's one innovation I crave, it's this

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

i can't see why the referee couldn't caution him for his behavior, but in reality a ref will never give a red card then caution the victim of the red card offense for faking the injury the red card was given for.

wmlynch, Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

we haved called for this many times in ilfistory but fifa remain petulantly intransigent

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

xp red cards aren't given for injuries tho, is kind of my point

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

game is the business

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

o'neill scrappy as fuck!

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

i think that the referee would need to caution tiote for feigning the injury (which would be a difficult interpretation if he's actually been struck, which the referee clearly believes as he's given the red to sessegnon), otherwise i think the other interpretation of simulation is pretending to have been fouled which can't pertain as he has actually been fouled.

xxp

wmlynch, Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

anyone watching that QPR programme? looks quality from this trailer. def. gonna watch this on catchup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5xAmAjZ1mY&feature=player_embedded

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:53 (thirteen years ago)

it's amazing. chelsea should get briatore in.

jabba hands, Monday, 5 March 2012 00:02 (thirteen years ago)

I'm all for more fly on the wall footage of rich dudes shouting "i want to sack this fucking idiot!"

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Monday, 5 March 2012 00:17 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, the main lesson here is that rich people who don't know what they're doing are really quite hilarious.

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 5 March 2012 00:24 (thirteen years ago)

(it's sort of great. Some wobbly bits. Luigi De Canio fans will be disappointed that the film basically airbrushes his era out)

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 5 March 2012 00:25 (thirteen years ago)

so fucked

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 March 2012 07:47 (thirteen years ago)

Feel bad for Wolves. Should get AVB in and tell him to show the Premiership what he can really do.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 5 March 2012 09:46 (thirteen years ago)

Haven't seen it yet but it's got echoes of Norwich going down 6-0 there in 2005. I did think Wolves would be alright but it's hard to see anyone coming back from that.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 March 2012 10:04 (thirteen years ago)

we had nothing, and we've got maybe 4 Prem quality players tops

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 March 2012 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

i can't see why the referee couldn't caution him for his behavior, but in reality a ref will never give a red card then caution the victim of the red card offense for faking the injury the red card was given for.

― wmlynch, Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:53 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

basically this. nothing to stop the ref doing it. but (1) definitively identifying simulation in a situation when there has in fact been contact is v tough (2) calling a player a liar is somehow more serious than calling him another kind of cheat, and if you get it wrong then you can lose control of the match (3) given the lack of support any ref who tries to systematically clamp down on simulation could expect from fifa, there is no upside.

caek, Monday, 5 March 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

said it a thousand times. monday morning, video panel, 3 match ban the blatant cases of simulation, see how many do it next weekend.

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 March 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

totes. just talking about what the ref can do on the pitch. the fa/fifa don't do so many things on monday morning, partly out of misguided loyalty to referees, mostly out of laziness and desire for a simple life.

caek, Monday, 5 March 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

also http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/mar/03/referees-winning-percentage-game-managers

caek, Monday, 5 March 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

Statistics compiled by the match delegates show referees get 92% of major decisions – goals, penalties, red cards etc – right. For assistant referees, the success rate is 99.3%.

caek, Monday, 5 March 2012 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

somehow doubt that includes simulation

caek, Monday, 5 March 2012 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

tv hypes up the split second decisions where mistakes are understandable "he definitely got a touch on the ball blah blah", when i'm sure what aggravates managers and fans more is inconsistent application of the laws - fouls denying clear goalscoring opportunities getting yellows, different standards on serious foul play etc

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 March 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

arseen wengah 'aving a go
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17261746

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 5 March 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

shocking reversal of his long-held anti-go-having principles, that.

Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Monday, 5 March 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger: "we will kick it towards van Persie, hope he comes up with something"

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 March 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

More to follow.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Jo7lJoQhtjw/SJFtJu8xJ9I/AAAAAAAAA7U/t5r6RFoEU9Y/s1600-h/nail-biter+othellomaster.com

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Monday, 5 March 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

If 'arry starts going on about mental strength and an extra two per cent of fitness and players being like new signings and not seeing things we'll know some Freaky Friday-style accident has happened.

James Mitchell, Monday, 5 March 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

And if 'Arry gets very reluctant to throw cash around?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 March 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

we can assume the swiss bank account in his dead racehorse's name is under investigation

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 March 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

'Church ruined my Man Utd chances'

Just as well for ILX that I'll never get it together to file papers myself

Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 March 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

also england national team 1986 are suing the church of england for the hand of god goal

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 5 March 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

anyone watching that QPR programme? looks quality from this trailer. def. gonna watch this on catchup.

http://www.youtube.com/v/R5xAmAjZ1mY&feature=player_embedded&fs=1&hl=en

― kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 4 March 2012 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Kinda disappointing: they had a lot of golden raw material -- sure most won't be able to agree on faves, but that fan pleading for Briatore not to leave while he complains how his ego isn't being further inflated by should-be-grateful fans that dare to protest because he input 35 million into 'the company' ws good.

Main problem was it wouldn't stop with trying to make 'killer' sequences cut from QPR goals/mobile convos/goals against QPR/more 5 sec clueless exec soundbites -- all accompained by yer disgusting indie sd/track. Should have left the camera on some of these meetings for a lot longer, no matter how 'mundane' it might seem -- especially one on savings they were trying to make, another where they were discussing season ticket prices. Should've had more interviews w/fans (tracking opinions as the takeover ws happening and then when it was unravelling with all the sackings), any zine writers, etc.

Badly put together and a missed opportunity to use this to talk about what is happening, which we all know but a documentation of this disaster is required. Switched off halfway through.

Still, great sense of timing -- Chelsea and QPR are 1x Mourinho apart from one another.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

kind of enjoy them showing how Falvio enforcing a substitution leading to a winning goal (to his mind) justified all the fucking around with managers and team selections

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Monday, 5 March 2012 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20120305/monday-musings/

Manchester United CEO Gill was one of the participants in the "Business of Sports: Winning Off the Field" panel. One thing he mentioned which caught the attention of those in attendance was that there were new owners of a PL team who didn't know about relegation. "Not sure what the due diligence was there," stated Gill of said owners. I later spoke to Gill directly to clarify erroneous rumors spreading on Twitter that Gill was in fact alluding to Fenway Sports Group's purchase of Liverpool. Gill categorically denied that he had been referencing or inferring that it was FSG in any form and said that he held Liverpool's owners in the highest regard. "I would never say anything negative about John W Henry, ever." However, when I put it to Gill that the party he was in fact referring to was Venky's (it's long been believed in some quarters of the industry that the mechanics of relegation was just one among various things Venky's were unaware of when acquiring Blackburn), Gill said nothing but gave a broad smile.

Number None, Monday, 5 March 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

Why The English Might Actually Prefer MLS To The Premier League

dan m, Monday, 5 March 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

(brace for flamefest in 3... 2...)

dan m, Monday, 5 March 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

Venkys!

a hoy hoy, Monday, 5 March 2012 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

where's a venky's behind the scenes film when you need one

jabba hands, Monday, 5 March 2012 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

ummm sorry but that should be made for the next 20 years - why waste it by releasing such a thing now in the first act.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 5 March 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYwf2SBWa5o

Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 March 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

what an embarrasment and that chicken is just from a takeaway
salakido 4 weeks ago

jabba hands, Monday, 5 March 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly9e5lqIWA1qh8q9wo1_1280.jpg

Is The Football Archivist well known already? Because it is amazing.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 March 2012 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

see football weekly were discussing my dn this week

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 5 March 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

as well as recycling some qpr chat from this very thread

Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 March 2012 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez claims another victim: http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1487279_judge-blasts-luis-suarez-after-handshake-bust-up-with-patrice-evra-prompts-manchester-united-fan-to-assault-wife-in-eccles

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 5 March 2012 23:37 (thirteen years ago)

“To blame Mr Suarez, in my view, illustrates your refusal to confront the real issue.”

Luomas (admrl), Monday, 5 March 2012 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

the manc wife beater Ryan Giggs is way beyond Suarez on the cunt scale, out there with Terry.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Monday, 5 March 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

how would Suarez be a role model for a Utd fan exactly? Stupid judge

Number None, Monday, 5 March 2012 23:58 (thirteen years ago)

"They have now Roberto Di Matteo in (temporary) charge, and I have to respect the manager in charge. I have to wait and (see) if something happens in the future. As a manager with experience in the Champions League, in Spain and in Italy, I am open to offers."

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

"Can anybody argue [against the fact] that the Liverpool fans love me? No," said Benítez. "If we agree with this, what do you want for somebody who you love? The best for him. I cannot be waiting at home for five years. Everybody understands that I will need a job."

toandos, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 01:44 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2110222/Andre-Villas-Boas-sacked--Roman-Abramovich-blames-players.html

Feel even worse for AVB after stories like this.

boxall, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 04:01 (thirteen years ago)

Just when you think these guys are running out of ways to be hateful. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be Ramires and Mata giving AVB a sarcastic wave at 8:59:58 every morning. Like managers getting all anal about punctuality is unique to him anyway.

The hint that any new manager will have his hands tied by Financial Fair Play is dead interesting though. Especially if they don't finish top four and have a mammoth rebuilding task off the back of Europa League income.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 10:07 (thirteen years ago)

bbc site is annoying now it doesn't show fixtures in date order, i completely didn't see the fa cup games on tonight. and now i've made other plans :(

Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

i know there were some questions a while back about where Run of Play's been. He (they?) have been posting some stuff recently at http://runofplay.tumblr.com/

toandos, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:03 (thirteen years ago)

Wolves’ Premier League survival hopes today suffered a major blow when midfielder Karl Henry was ruled out for three to four weeks.

amazing how much my opinion can differ from some cunt who gets paid to write about football

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 07:49 (thirteen years ago)

Pogba's off to Juventus. Maybe now we'll see whether he's any good.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 08:46 (thirteen years ago)

Dunno, thought the same about Elia and have yet to see him since, even in bench warming capacity.

pandemic, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 10:55 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/pictures/620xAny/4/8/3/10483_Sainsburys-at-Northumberland-Park.JPG

How did we miss news of NAMING RIGHTS SUPERMARKET RETAIL CHAIN?

Spurs chairman Daniel Levy added: “We are delighted that Sainsbury’s will become the supermarket provider in the Northumberland Development Project. This will be one of the largest supermarkets of its kind in London and will help bring a greater vibrancy and attract new trade to the area.”
http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/sainsburys-tie-up-spurs-tottenhams-new-stadium-plan/226716.article

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

That's right, Daniel. Giant supermarkets are famed for the footfall they put through other shops in the same area. Not for driving other shops out of business.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

Bet this replaces the hotel meant for the site.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

Uh oh:

Suarez and Real Madrid striker Gonzalo Higuain top PSG's wish list for next season, following on from the recent big-money signings of Javier Pastore, Thiago Motta and Alex.

"We are already looking at the market for next season," Al-Khelaifi said. "We have clear targets in mind. It is true that we want Luis Suarez and Gonzalo Higuain. Our real short-term targets are to win the Champions League and find a new Lionel Messi."

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

aiming low with the short-term targets

Number None, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder what the long-term ones are?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

Dunno, thought the same about Elia and have yet to see him since, even in bench warming capacity.

― pandemic, Wednesday, March 7, 2012 10:55 AM (3 hours ago)

juve ruin flair players, esp foreign ones

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

try to take over the world xpost

Number None, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

thought it was gonna be "PROFIT?!??"

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

Alex=big money signing. ORLY?

pandemic, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

oh shit they are trying to find a new Lionel Messi? Why did no other club think of that?

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

Podolski a done deal then?

Number None, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

Actually looks like it might be! It has been made public he's talking to Mertesacker about the club and moving to London.

Also Torres has supposedly gone 24 hours without scoring. A days worth of games!

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

Supposedly it was Jenkinson who threw up over our dugout btw.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

lol the daily mail transfer rumours.

i mean this looks 80% spot on but i remember reading that over the summer they had a worse story-becomes-actual-transfer record than the sun and mirror combined.

fwiw it is a dickmove on the part of mertesacker to talk about it. i hate whenever the 'bigger' club have people come out and talk about players going to them. let him have his time at cologne without this shit in the papers, without the fans worrying about where his heads at etc. [arsenal fans really hate this shit when it is barca doing it to us for cesc or whoever, so for us to do it to the clubs below us shows we aren't learning.]

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

Also Torres has supposedly gone 24 hours without scoring. A days worth of games!

Messi doesn't go that long without a hat-trick.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

He probably has more hat tricks than Torres has goals in the last 12 months.

pandemic, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

I think he has 6? so yeah

Number None, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

that's this season actually

Number None, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

"We are interested in all good players. This is normal, but not only us. All the good teams are interested in Van Persie."

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:18 (thirteen years ago)

A quote that should have been made into a pollthread where I guess who said it/cry and everyone mocks me.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:21 (thirteen years ago)

ach it's not so bad he goes on to convince everyone that RVP will remain at Arsenal.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:23 (thirteen years ago)

i was reading that in his cadences even before id reached the end of the quote

This is normal
This is normal
This is normal

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:27 (thirteen years ago)

"this is normal" mancini

About 1,590,000 results (0.18 seconds)

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh8zUroNItw

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:32 (thirteen years ago)

that was put together with some care

Number None, Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:40 (thirteen years ago)

In a BBC exclusive, Manchester City's Mario Balotelli tells Noel Gallagher he has to mature after being fined for breaking curfew.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 8 March 2012 07:09 (thirteen years ago)

"Hi Mario, I'm Dan Walker from the BBC".

"Hello... wait... BBC? Journalist?"

"Yes".

"I do not like you already".

pandemic, Thursday, 8 March 2012 08:32 (thirteen years ago)

http://i40.tinypic.com/ebd3ti.jpg

Jermaine Defoe has cocaine on his face. You're supposed to snort the stuff, not rub it into your skin, Jermaine.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 8 March 2012 08:43 (thirteen years ago)

City plan another raid on Arsenal if talks fail

Good luck in these 'talks', Arsenal

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 09:45 (thirteen years ago)

the van persie money would be enough to buy torres or carroll though. perhaps both

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:02 (thirteen years ago)

he's talking about Shaqeel van Persie's pocket money

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:14 (thirteen years ago)

We could look up the og Denilson while we're at it.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:14 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll's been doing alright recently, time to shoehorn someone else into these gags I reckon

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:16 (thirteen years ago)

nice try

pandemic, Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:19 (thirteen years ago)

Van Persie will be the next expensive flop

Number None, Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:22 (thirteen years ago)

injured on the first day at city? (hit by fireworks round at balotelli's)

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:32 (thirteen years ago)

You're supposed to snort the stuff, not rub it into your skin, Jermaine.

I used to work with a guy who went to school with Jermain Defoe, who apparently was unable to label the eyes, nose, mouth and ears on a drawing of a face.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 21 July 2006 15:34 (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 8 March 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

^old posts that float through yr head

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 8 March 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/dA0f6.png

#teamnasri

James Mitchell, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

Man City are getting off remarkably lightly for dropping a massive transfer clanger with Nasri, who's basically done nothing of note other than annoyingly score against Spurs and is dining out off half a good season with Arsenal. Being top of the league helps I suppose, and City have otherwise had a really good record at integrating big-money signings.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, having a squad full of dudes who are performing probably takes the heat off a lot. the whole situation is no torresgate

Nultified Ancients of Man U (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

seven league assists

hes not been that bad

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think Nasri's been bad as such, just quiet. He's done a few useful things iirc, not that I could name them.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

how many assists is Andy Carroll on now that he's performing really well?

Nultified Ancients of Man U (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

Assists only count for teams capable of scoring from them.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

3 of Nasri's 7 assists in one match (Spurs in August). He's looked decent when I've seen him but feels maybe a bit redundant when both Silva and Aguero are playing.

boxall, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

in that squad you're bound to have a bunch of guys who are perfectly capable players who aren't gonna get that many games

Nultified Ancients of Man U (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

After Newcastle's game at home to Blackpool, Blackpool manager Ian Holloway described Carroll as the best striker in the Premier League.[54]

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

Holloway was a long way over the shark by this point

Nultified Ancients of Man U (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

Nasri was bought partly to stop him going to United, wasn't he? I'd imagine he'd have been worth a few points to them over the course of the season so it's money well spent for City.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

like he would have got in the team ahead of Giggs

Number None, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

Nasri's been okay I think. Hardly what I'd call a massive transfer clanger anyway.

pandemic, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

if they'd spent the money on Nasri they mightn't've been able to afford Giggs' monkey gland therapy

Nultified Ancients of Man U (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

So, Podolski to Arsenal in the summer.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger finally sorting those defensive frailties out

Nultified Ancients of Man U (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

just a shame there will no longer be a van persie to score goals at the other end

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

Yuh, I'd like to seem him as partner, but he's plainly replacement.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

Rumour is that RVP has told Wenger to prove to him before the summer that it is worth staying, thus why we are buying players in March (this is crazy when you remember that Wenger is def. a 'wait till last week of August - when the season is a month old - and see if any bargains are around and if not just play the kids' type). Podolski is the first for good reason though, because RVP is blatently gonna fuck off anyway.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

if he is a replacement, it's a pretty good move by Wenger getting him in this early before they pocket a load of cash for Van Persie and the price of their targets gets stupidly high

Number None, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

Podolski's not really a #9 is he?

mizzell, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

thought he was more of a wing forward tbh

Number None, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

striker for club, wing forward for country.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

wiki says he has scored 16 in 20 this season. wasn't excited until i saw that.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

it's his highest scoring season ever though i believe

Number None, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

well yeah i thought he was the type to get 3 a season and then sulk that everyone around him wasnt working hard enough

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

think he typically plays behind Novakovic for Koln.
also saw a story that robben would be available for 10M. Podolski, RVP, Robben front three would be pretty good.

mizzell, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

has some serious injury potential

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

it is arsenal!

mizzell, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

do robben and van persie hate each other? can never remember which dutch players don't get along.

mizzell, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

They all hate each other.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

nah they seem to get along quite well
http://i26.tinypic.com/erfp8i.jpg

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

Robben for 10m is an incredible bargain, even with his injury record

Number None, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

It's Sneijder who doesn't get on with RVP iirc.

boxall, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

number none i think 10m is a rounded figure, much like robben

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

think robben has a year left on his contract in June. Bayern have bought Shiquiri, and the rest of the team supposedly hate Robben so he probably will be available.

Podolski even scored with a v good header at the weekend!! That Koln team is dire though.

pandemic, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

I'd take him as an Owen replacement at Utd

Number None, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

robben, rvp, podolski would be a v cool front three who all use their left foots only. Wonder if the Emirates pitch would have a lean on it by the end of the season?

pandemic, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

There's an interesting bit in RED where Gary Neville maintains that the pitch at St James' Park has a significant slope to it. I'd never heard it before but having googled it, it does seem to be a fairly widespread belief

Number None, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

rvp is two footed, post-training his chocolate leg meme.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.nufc.co.uk/page/Club/History/SportsDirectArena

Situated on a small hill overlooking the city and part of the historic Town Moor owned by the Freemen of the City - which further complicated any development proposals - St James Park is very close to the spot of the city's execution gallows, the last hanging taking place in 1844, less than 40 years before football was first played in the vicinity.

Back in Victorian Tyneside, St James Park was barely a rough patch of grazing land and had a notorious slope, a drop of fully 18 feet from the north to south goal. Local butchers could still graze their animals on the pitch before being led to slaughter!

nice url

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17305150

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001600573/3946335051_4088498330_67999e1103_xlarge.jpeg

Steve Bruce said Wolves gave him a strong indication that he was going to fill the vacant manager's position before a late change of mind.

The 51-year-old was given a second interview, and believed the deal would be formalised the following morning, but missed out to Terry Connor.

"That was the plan," he told BBC Radio 5 live's Pat Murphy.

"At one stage I was close, but it wasn't to be. It's their prerogative."
Continue reading the main story

Steve Bruce on BBC Radio 5 live

After an initial meeting with chief executive Jez Moxey and owner Steve Morgan, Bruce was expecting to seal the deal: "When I left the conversation on Thursday, by all intents and purposes, it was to have another conversation on the Friday.

"I said to my good lady I thought I was back to work. Unfortunately, it didn't happen. I'm disappointed."

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 8 March 2012 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

no ahm bittuhly, /bittuhly/ disappointed no cred

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 8 March 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

Asked if he feared Saha's return, Moyes replied: "No because I think I've got an agreement with Harry that he doesn't play. Louis doesn't play unless Tottenham have got lots of injuries. Next question please!"

Moyes may want to check his facts with Redknapp though, who confirmed on Friday that Saha "is available" and "is looking forward to playing".

mizzell, Friday, 9 March 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

He's just goading 'arry into a tactical error imo, Spurs look better with one up top.

boxall, Friday, 9 March 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

such an 'agreement' is in breach of premier league rules anyway iirc

pandemic, Friday, 9 March 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that's bizarre

Number None, Friday, 9 March 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

moyes has an answer for that

"If you're a gentleman it's allowed isn't it?" Moyes said. "Gentlemen shake hands and do things some times. But if he needs him, he'll play."

xp

mizzell, Friday, 9 March 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

not really answer though is it?

pandemic, Friday, 9 March 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

wonder what else is allowed if you're a gentlemen? Not that there's many in the Prem.
Diving okay if you're a 'nice fella'

pandemic, Friday, 9 March 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

you're allowed to receive tax free payments into an overseas bank account in your dog's name iirc

Nultified Ancients of Man U (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 March 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

michael dawson is injured, anyway

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 9 March 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

Rafa making his pitch for the Chelsea job on Football Focus right now.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

Oh man! A yard over the line and not given.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

who for?

pandemic, Saturday, 10 March 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

can't even work out the best result for us here, my spirit is crushed

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

they better not be cheating djbril out of a goal? (has no idea who is playing)
xp

pandemic, Saturday, 10 March 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

QPR. Header by Clint Hill from a corner from about four yards, clawed onto the bar by Bogdan from well behind the line.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

They're playing Bolton.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

ty. Won't get a chance to watch until the 2nd half. I do love a relegation 6 pointer.

pandemic, Saturday, 10 March 2012 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

just turned this on and lol swp is wank

so the matches to watch today are spurs-everton and lyon-lille. dunno if i'll be around for moyes's job interview though.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 10 March 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

Bobby Z has hit the bar too. It's all set up for a Bolton win.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

Ryoooo is magnetic w/ the touchline. Dunno if Wenger will be happy with someone who stays in position next year.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 10 March 2012 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

Alan Green doesn't blame goalkeepers for cheating so presumably i'm never gonna hear him moan about players diving in future

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

Alan Green? You have my sympathies Noodle. Never has a man been so affronted about getting paid to watch football.

pandemic, Saturday, 10 March 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

i only popped the radio on while i was in the kitchen making a sandwich. he's gone again now.

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

And there we are.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

And thėre we are.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

That had to be a penalty surely? He went through the back of him. Nice to see an irate Hughes but gosh, QPR have been robbed here.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

The defender 'challenging' with Ryo at the edge of the box in the build up to the Bolton 2nd goal was laughably woeful. Must have had a 6" height advantage and put in the lamest challenge imaginable.

Owen Coyle should go for the pat on the back of the head for Hughes at the end, as should the lino.

pandemic, Saturday, 10 March 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

Hughes letting himself be bundled away too easily imo, should be following the officials down to their dressing room.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

lol at Sky blatantly delaying their ad break purely to show the confrontation though

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

Coates starting instead of Carragher. Is he officially 4th choice now?

pandemic, Saturday, 10 March 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

There's a dedicated Sky F1 channel? What does it show the 99% of the time there are no races on?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

About times Coates graduated to the first team. Caryatids should be fourth choice and all.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

Caryatids wtf? I'm sure he went to Germany in the summer.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

01 Hennessey
05 Stearman
11 Ward
21 Bassong
23 Zubar
04 Edwards
17 Jarvis
24 O'Hara
26 Davis
10 Fletcher
29 Doyle

Davis? Davis???

*googles*

Fuck me either this is genius or he's picking them out of a hat

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

would love if he was picking them out of the hat on the bus on the way to the match

pandemic, Saturday, 10 March 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

Senior career*
Years Team Apps† (Gls)†
2009– Wolverhampton Wanderers 1 (0)
2009 → Darlington (loan) 5 (0)
2010 → Walsall (loan) 7 (0)
2011 → Shrewsbury Town (loan) 19 (2)
2011–2012 → Inverness Caledonian Thistle (loan) 14 (1)
2012 → Chesterfield (loan) 9 (0)

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

that single 1st team Wolves appearance appears to have been as a sub in a League Cup game. I'll say this for Terry Connor, just when i thought the season was finished he found a way to add a bit of interest.

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

brand new centre back pairing too but it might just work having two guys who love to run forward seeing as how fragile that midfield looks

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

I want to put a coin in Gary Neville's forehead

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

according to my stream Wolves have chosen to play this match on ice, with big sticks

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

I hope that wasn't the second of ithappens' banker points for QPR

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

Jarvis "surprised" when football reaches his feet in 6 yard box

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

Jarvis "surprised" when he runs out of pitch whilst taking the ball down the wing

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

this wine's gonna be run out by half time fml

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

I've given Liverpool long enough, this is as eventful as you'd think. May join you now NV.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

We are going down, said We are going down.

Hopeless decision on the Clint Hill header makes no odds. QPR have been woeful since autumn.

xpost That was the second of my banker points. We are set to undershoot my prediction of two points for the rest of the season. That's some kind of spectacular achievement. What makes it all worse is the certainty that we'll produce a string of stirring 3-2 losses in the games against the top six, each of which will doubtless be decided by an offside goal in the 32nd minute of injury time.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

would bet my house on liverpool losing this

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

i've seen kids teams that wd offer more threat than wolves

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

There are people on the QPR boards predicting home wins against Spurs and Liverpool. God knows what they're thinking. Or what they've been drinking.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

Molineux 2012

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/wolves.jpg

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

rip

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/wolves2.jpg

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

That first pic is how I imagine erstwhile ilxor LJ would dress to attend the footer.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

there's another clown in the bottom left of the pic, and we've seen a few more when the cameraman's been bored i.e. every two minutes or so

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

So there is? What's the deal with that?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

it's a "we are a fucking joke" meme

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

srsly

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

i'm seeing improvement to be honest, we've been 2-0 down at half time in Connor's previous 2 matches in charge

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

lol Blackburn the only scorers in the 3 o'clock kick-offs

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

A fact I learned midweek: avb's 'trademark' raincoat was actually a contractual-obligation thing from the club's casualwear sponsorship with D&G

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

can't believe the other games have been as bad as this one tho

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

omg AVB faith shattered

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

modern football is fucking horrible

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

bollocks there goes the wine

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

1-0 Sunderland

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

unlucky for Campbell

Number None, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

shot off the post bendtner got the tap in

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

off the post AND Reina

Number None, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

i hate to agree with Trevor Francis but he's quite right, the kid Davis has been as good as anybody we've played today

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

pft, FA Cup is the competition that matters

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

I literally just turned this on for potential Liverpool lols and have been rewarded handsomely

Number None, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

we really have that "dead man walking" look about us now

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

if i thought the Piper was open yet i'd've sacked this shit off by now

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

I've abandoned you for Chelsea I'm afraid, this is rubbish. You misled me nv.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/wolves3.jpg

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

no i don't think i said this was anything other than horrible

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

Argh, Drogba scores.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

Taken beautifully tbf.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

shd've been 3 for Blackburn there

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

shd've been 1 for Wolves there

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

fuck these cunts i'm going to the pub

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/wolves4.png

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea hit post, are still rubbish

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

absolute fucking shit deserve to finish 21st

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

If Everton can beat Spurs next, Liverpool-Everton on Tuesday night will be a straight fight for seventh.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

explain the scouse mafia out thing plz

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 10 March 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

Steve Morgan is from Liverpool anyway. I'm sure he has friends.

Number None, Saturday, 10 March 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

Three losses in a row for the first time since 2003 apparently - that doesn't sound right.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

^ reference to newcastle's anti mike ashley's protest surely

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 10 March 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

well yeah

Number None, Saturday, 10 March 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

1-0 everton. kaboul lets osman (?) get past him far too easily, squared for jelavic who scores on his goodison debut.

mizzell, Saturday, 10 March 2012 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs apparently haven't lost three in a row since the glory days of Juande Ramos.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Saturday, 10 March 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

can't imagine a team worse at set plays than spurs right now.

mizzell, Saturday, 10 March 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

hmm, walker gets away with a kick out, so he might be banned for a few games

mizzell, Saturday, 10 March 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

sahahahaha

nortei nortey (cozen), Saturday, 10 March 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)

happy st teeteringham's day

nortei nortey (cozen), Saturday, 10 March 2012 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

Decent effort by Spiders at the end there but they looked a bit toothless ultimately. Everton are effective though - wouldn't want to be a team on a poor run facing them at the moment.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

the end was pretty entertaining in a frantic, nervous laughter kind of way

mizzell, Saturday, 10 March 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

Jeez, if Liverpool lose on Tuesday we could in theory be bottom half of the table by the time we play again.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

Time to jump ship, IK. Come over to the dark side.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 10 March 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

Get thee behind me, Satan

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

Ismael's joke apostasy is one of my favorite things about ILF in 2012.

boxall, Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

comparing Liverpool this season and last

2010/11 6th 39 points 11 wins 35 goals

2011/12 7th 39 points 10 wins 30 goals

Number None, Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

30 goals?! I hadn't noticed it was anything like that bad.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

15 home, 15 away

Number None, Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

lol home, lol away

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

at least their shitness is symmetrical

Number None, Saturday, 10 March 2012 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

Van Persie has 30 goals in all competitions this year, same number as Liverpool in the league.

wmlynch, Saturday, 10 March 2012 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

Long live King Kenny!

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 March 2012 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02155/Harry-Poster_AI_2155432b.jpg

If only he could read.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 11 March 2012 08:49 (thirteen years ago)

Harry must stay, surely?

This piece on Villas Boas is good on the dysfunctionality at Chelsea, and where loyalties lie. The summer there is going to be fascinating, especially as I can't think who might actually end up in the job. Rafa really does seem like the obvious candidate now.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 March 2012 08:55 (thirteen years ago)

wishful thinking from a scarred Liverpool fan?

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Sunday, 11 March 2012 08:56 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe. He'd be a poor fit for the other half of what Abramovich wants to achieve, other than being great at knock outs, but he'd be good for cutting out the dead wood. I had been coming round to the idea of his having another go at Anfield, but he can't wait around forever and there aren't many other elite candidates for the Chelsea job. Capello would be an even less attractive option you'd think.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 March 2012 09:33 (thirteen years ago)

Villas-Boas knew he was running out of time but although the decision to sack him was made within minutes of the match ending at the Hawthorns last weekend, Roman Abramovich agonised until the early hours of Sunday morning about whether he should give the young Portuguese, whom he admired and liked, one more game.

Abramovich had been agonising for weeks, ever since he turned up unannounced at the training ground to observe the manager at work and gauge the mood in the camp. Chelsea went on to throw away a three-goal lead against Manchester United and lose miserably to Everton on Feb 11. Abramovich changed his mind that evening. He decided that maybe, as some in his so-called 'golden circle’ had been arguing since the international break in early September, Villas-Boas could not carry on.

Pure fiction? No one knows what Abramovich thinks about anything.

Rafa for Spurs obv. Reckon its a better 'project' for him.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 11 March 2012 09:34 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFssfEub3uk

He's got a twitch. If Wenger behaved like that it would be back page news.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 11 March 2012 09:50 (thirteen years ago)

gotta be dalglish out, don't know a liverpool fan who thinks differently. the whole "he can't be sacked" thing is just from your ilx-style "i fear my shoes are developing a sense of entitlement" person. obv there's a hardcore in liverpool who might disagree but i foresee no controversy in the forthcoming shuffle upstairs with "i did a job for the club when they needed me".

just please, no rafa. they have the money and imo aren't miles off having the players to do well.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 11 March 2012 10:18 (thirteen years ago)

i've thought all along he'd be shoved into a Director of Football type position soon enough. his appointment always felt like a placeholder, tho a placeholder was probably v. necessary at the time.

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 10:51 (thirteen years ago)

the whole "he can't be sacked" thing is just from your ilx-style "i fear my shoes are developing a sense of entitlement" person

Haha what are you talking about?! I did think that tbf (and about Kenny, not the shoes) until Fenway eventually stepped in over the handshake thing. Now I agree with nv though, paradoxically, I think he's got to win the FA Cup for it to happen, because it'd be a nightmare to have him upstairs feeling like he's got unfinished business. Fortunately, he will.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 March 2012 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

The only silver lining to yesterday

would bet my house on liverpool losing this

― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, March 10, 2012 3:27 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

LG still has a roof over his head.

pandemic, Sunday, 11 March 2012 11:11 (thirteen years ago)

never in doubt!

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 11 March 2012 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

tbh I think Dalglish probably has enough humility and enough love for the club that he'll happily step aside when the appropriate time comes

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 11:18 (thirteen years ago)

i agree completely, i was sort of ridiculing the prevalent theory that somehow getting rid of him would be some huge acrimonious struggle. it really won't.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 11 March 2012 11:23 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not quite sure about that. That he was willing publicly to throw his hat in at time of Hodgson's appointment isn't a great omen for a smooth transition. Though I guess if there was an agreed successor lined up like, say, Villas Boas, it'd be a lot easier.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 March 2012 11:27 (thirteen years ago)

the perceived turmoil at the club at the end of Hodgson's tenure was very different to any likely situation now

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

I meant the start of Hodgson's tenure - remember KD was appointed to find successor to Rafa but nominated himself instead. But yes, the club's in a better place all round, except in the league.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 March 2012 11:34 (thirteen years ago)

aren't miles off having the players to do well.

really?

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

If Spurs somehow end up finishing 5th I will be v amused.

pandemic, Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

they're underachieving imo NN, not saying they should be topping the table but they have played most of the top sides off the park at one point this season. good defence too.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

I agree with that actually. One goalscorer and more mobility in the centre of the park and they'd be good against anyone. I realise I'm asking for a whole new midfield and the return of Torres here, but hey.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

gotta be dalglish out, don't know a liverpool fan who thinks differently.

i dont agree. i think some of the signings didnt work out this year but ive no problem with him staying on tbh

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

Yesterday was the first full game i've watched in a while but they were alarmingly shit, with Charlie Adam in particular barely looking like a footballer. There's a lot of average and past it players in that squad. I'd argue that it needs a complete revamp

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

that's performance not ability. as i say, the evidence is there that they can wallop good teams, both man u and city have been given a run for their money.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

Darren Dein's mouthpiece:

Arsenal face the prospect of losing a fifth player to Manchester City in three years after Robin van Persie provisionally agreed a contract with the Premier League leaders that promises to make him the division's best paid footballer.

City's proposal, which sources close to both club and player say has been accepted, is worth £10.9 million (Dh63.05m) a year, a deal that will place him atop the club's pay scale once Carlos Tevez, whose contract was worth £12.55m including loyalty bonuses, is sold this summer.

http://www.thenational.ae/sport/football/manchester-city-strike-agreement-for-arsenals-robin-van-persie

James Mitchell, Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

Hey, The Sunday Times are saying RVP has agreed to join City. Great!

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

ha

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

xpost Really, you think Dalglish has done enough to justify staying in the job? The fact that so many of the signings didn't work out is precisely the problem. It's not that any of them are poor players, but they're certainly not good enough for the fees paid, and when you make that kind of expenditure you know the League Cup isn't a good enough return. Charlie Adam? Stewart Downing? Liverpool marquee signings? Puts me in mind of Jimmy Carter …

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

Rumours also abound that Pogba has signed a new contract with Utd. He's on the bench today

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

Oh dear, poor Arsenal. Does this mean we have five more months of the story while they negotiate a fee?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

fancy Swansea to put City to the sword today. Well maybe not, but Savic is playing

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

Probably gone first week of transfer window instead of a fight till almost the end re: Nasri.

Podolski has been signed - that's hadly any cover, but by even trying to get any sort of replacement etc. its an attempt to avoid the fiasco at the start of last season.

Getting back line signings as impt.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

or nearly agreed, from the gossip nearly true stories anyway.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

It's also taking as read that Tevez is leaving I notice, which I think they have to do for Financial Fair Play. Will be interesting to see how little the signing club manages to pay for him, even if the rest of it will be tedious.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

shit, Swansea had a penalty saved? Anyone watching?

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, hart slid out on routledge then was talking shit to sinclair the whole build up, sinclair hit a weak shot that hart saved easily. swansea totally bossing the game so far.

mizzell, Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

hart fingerwagging not in my house type stuff, like a nba center

mizzell, Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea look like me when I play FIFA - fluid going forward, can't hold a defensive shape for shit. Balotelli's looking handy.

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

lol balotelli just shot from halfway line

mizzell, Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

when you make that kind of expenditure you know the League Cup isn't a good enough return

An ordinary League Cup victory, maybe, but you seem to be ignoring the impressive manner in which Liverpool put Cardiff to the sword. The gulf in class was immense and the thrashing handed out will live long in the memory.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

^ a small poster with a small mentality

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

just lucky we didn't play crystal palace I suppose

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

City just can't get or keep the ball, this is very strange

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

When this Palace team go on to sweep all before them, history will look kindly on that defeat

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney!

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

great finish

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

It really is inexplicable. There is just absolutely no argument whatsoever.

Look at all the other sports that use it (goal-line technology). They laugh at us.

Do they Mark? Do they really?

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

Aguero on for Barry already

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

the whole "he can't be sacked" thing is just from your ilx-style "i fear my shoes are developing a sense of entitlement" person

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

a problem?

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

like what does that even

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool are four points above west brom

track record suggests dalglish jumps

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

that ilx persistently overeggs the worst traits of the dumb football strawman xpost

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that doesnt quite parse either

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

smug

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

Henry Winter wrote, "it can only be a matter of time before he [Dalglish] is confirmed as long-term manager".[61] On 12 May 2011, the club announced that Dalglish had been given a three-year contract.[62] In February 2012, Dalglish led Liverpool to victory in the League Cup in his first full season back as manager.[63]

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

nobody, afaict, is currently saying dalglish is unfireable if this form continues

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

not now, no.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

The first half of the season perhaps went well but Dalglish never reacted when he should have. With Lucas Leiva in the side, Liverpool won 23 points out of possible 39. Since his injury in the carling cup against Chelsea, Liverpool have unbelievably won only 16 points out of possible 42.

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

unbelievably

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

adam's presence nearly as damaging as lucas' absence

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

West Brom down to ten, should have had a penalty earlier. Have at it conspiracy theorists

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

and now Utd have a pen lol

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

Can't place it better than that.

boxall, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

and Pogba is on!

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

Utd fans cheering his every touch

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

how undignified

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

it's kinda sweet, if a tad pathetic

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

if you're in the cheap seats just rattle your prawn sandwiches

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Old Trafford just heard

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

AHAHA A MAN CITY FAN IS CRYING

MPx4A, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

the bbc is fucking shit i take it swansea are in front?

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, i'm double streaming

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

Luke Moore flick header yeah, camera cuts to City fan weeping bitter tears, City thundering back forcing two saves in a minute straight after

MPx4A, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

best league in the world

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

I guess if they equalise and they cut back to him and he's still crying then it's because his dog died or something

MPx4A, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

darn

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

Please please please

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

ffs Abu Dhabi if you'd bought any club other than City this wouldn't be happening

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

Sian Massey to the rescue

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

best officials in the world

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

I have no idea what's happening btw, I'm just picking up vibes that it's not good

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

loooooooooooool

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

Utd just went top Ismael

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

perfectly good city goal ruled offside, they hart comes up for the last corner, and swansea nearly score from their own half.

1-0 swansea

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

He looked offside to me

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

As I thought and feared. They were getting walloped when I was watching though.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Dancing_044163_70851.gif

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

Ugh though - if the next few results go the right/wrong way, everyone down to 12th can overtake Liverpool next weekend.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

And Utd are now fairly hefty favourites - 65/100 vs 11/8

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

i think me and football might have a trial separation after this weekend

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

City 5/4 with Paddy Power is tempting tho

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

if they play Tevez maybe

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

I can see Utd winning every game now and clawing out a draw at Eastlands though. It's horrible.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

don't worry, they've got to come to Molineux next

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

Molineux is where The Crap Invincibles were vinced last season. And we lost there when you got relegated last time round.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 11 March 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

i know, i was only half joking. but i don't think you need worry this go round unless there's an outbreak of some kind of bodysnatching aliens with excellent football ability in the Wolverhampton area this week

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

that was some good trash talking from Hart alright

Number None, Sunday, 11 March 2012 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

tried to find out how old yakubu is, found

21 September 2011 2:17PM

I have met Yakubu several times, and was with him and Steven Pienaar shortly before they flew to South Africa at the world cup.

I remember an occasion with Joseph Yobo (Another player who has a questionable age) and we were all joking about Yakubu. Pienaar, who speaks a little Nigerian patois, turned to me, deadpan, and said Yakubu is at least 8 years older than him. Whether this is true is hard to know, but his age does not correlate with the length of his playing career.

That's all i can say.

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 March 2012 02:29 (thirteen years ago)

he is an awesome player rly

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 March 2012 02:31 (thirteen years ago)

even if he isnt 48 yrs old, hes still just a rly canny player and pretty skilful too, to the extent that he isnt even big yak he is just yak or maybe the yak if u are being pretentious

middlesbrough back in the day with viduka maccarone haisselbaink rochemback mendieta was one of those minor golden ages now slipping into the void

they retained that late 90s spirit of buying random flair players and sundered former greats long past the point that every other epl also-ran had been rationalized into dour 451 and competed to overpay for england b players

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 March 2012 02:45 (thirteen years ago)

How disrespectful of Frank's uncle. Doesn't he know Frank's mother is dead?

James Mitchell, Monday, 12 March 2012 09:14 (thirteen years ago)

oh, it's a different uncle

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 09:37 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/Ajhkf.jpg

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 March 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

LINE-UPSArsenal v Newcastle (2000 GMT)

Arsenal: Szczesny, Sagna, Koscielny, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Song, Rosicky, Arteta, Walcott, van Persie, Oxlade-Chamberlain. Subs: Fabianski, Andre Santos, Ramsey, Djourou, Gervinho, Chamakh, Benayoun.

Newcastle: Krul, Simpson, Williamson, Coloccini, Santon, Ben Arfa, Tiote, Cabaye, Gutierrez, Obertan, Ba. Subs: Elliot, Guthrie, Cisse, Perch, Gosling, Shola Ameobi, Vuckic.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

Obertan's got this

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

Virtually a football-free day on ilx, and now you've gone & ruined it.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

van persie... so close...

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

"Newcastle managed to win here last season with an Andy Carroll header"

This seems like a lifetime ago.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

AZ's Brett Holman signed with Aston Villa, he'll be joining them this summer. Decent signing for Villa, me thinks.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

Ben Arf

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

damn that was a minute!

toandos, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

Van Persi

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

pffft that was shit defending it is almost like i am watching arsenal

sweet finish though

and lol van injury!

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

this has that classic Monday night feel

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

lol

James Mitchell, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

van persie's control for that was sublime. two nice goals.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

something something when he wants?

James Mitchell, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

Goes to Man City?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

Insert your own hotel room joke here.

James Mitchell, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

28 goals in 28 games. that's up there with your messis and ronaldos

aye but RvP's doing it in a non-diddy league

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

AZ's Brett Holman signed with Aston Villa, he'll be joining them this summer. Decent signing for Villa, me thinks.

― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:13 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

who dat?

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

28 goals in 28 games. that's up there with your messis and ronaldos

messi has scored 4 more than games he's played, ronaldo 6 more. Ronaldo btw is on par to score 100 league goals before he's played 90 league games.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

Martin Keown pronouncing Sagna to rhyme with Wagner on the radio. I mean, come on.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

4 more this season, ronaldo 6 more this season...

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

Australian midfielder. He played for AZ for four years, his contract ran out and he didn't want to renew it. He's the strong silent type of midfielder, very consistent though.

xp

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

Ronaldo is on 98 in 89

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

Pogrebnyak 2 more

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

and Messi is at 55 in 50 for club and country compared to Ronaldo's 46 in 46

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

Take away the five against Leverkusen and Messi doesn't look so hot

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

0.4 coefficient for diddy leagueness puts messi at 22 in 50, ronaldo at 39 in 89

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

not removing RvP from my FF captaincy till he breaks his leg

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

but but seventh in La Liga Bilbao gave the champions of England a schooling last week. How does that effect the coefficient?

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

Zlatan's 19 in 21 deserves a mention here for being in a proper league

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

ha ha

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

IK otm

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney has 20 in 24 (which includes a stint in midfield). Obviously some kind of statistical anomaly though

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

also benefits from a positive cromagnon modifier on that fig

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

any token player in the dutch league who scores 4 every game this season?

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

reduced by tap-in multiplicand for Rooney obv

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

bas dost 22 in 18 for heerenveen

toandos, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

Bas Dost has 22 in 18. Not quite up there with your Eredivisie legends of yore but quite impressive

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

quite

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

Don't underestimate THE DOST tbh

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

He's no Alves but he's pretty good :)

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

What kind of name is Bas Dost?! I'd assumed he'd have a first name too, but no. Could be a Hollywood action lead imo.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

is he in the Dutch squad?

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

First name is Bas tbh

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

No. Not yet. Dost can't compete with RVP and Huntelaar.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

bas bas dost? weird

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

smdh

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

It's what the Dutch call noughts-and-crosses

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoKYCJ3sxJQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=185s

^^ a Bas Dost goal from last Saturday that cannot be fucked with tbh

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

scroll to 3.06 for some heel magic

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

An ILF hero is born.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

awesome

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

What's that 'Hearrenfeen' banner behind the goal? Is Dutch football so argumentative that you can't even agree a standard spelling?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltpx3hHVa41qgmicdo1_400.gif

mizzell, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

dosting his bas

mizzell, Monday, 12 March 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

Keen eye, IK! Hearrenfean is the Frisian spelling of Heerenveen. In the province of Friesland (where I am), they spell it Hearrenfean. Every home game of Heerenveen starts with the Frisian anthem too, the only Dutch club to have a 'national' anthem at the start of every game.

Marco van Basten, Heerenveen's manager as of next season, is already studying the lyrics to that anthem, I am sure.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

lol mizell

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

holy smokes this is confusing

Fryslân distinguishes itself from the other eleven provinces by having its own language, West Frisian, which is also spoken in a small adjacent part of the province of Groningen, to the east. Closely related languages, East Frisian ("Seeltersk", which is different from "East Frisian (Ostfriesisch)", a collection of Low German dialects of East Frisia) and North Frisian, are spoken in the Saterland and in North Friesland areas in Germany, respectively.

mizzell, Monday, 12 March 2012 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

Get one education on minority languages, or grow up in those regions, and it's not that complicated tbh

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

my prediction that Obertan would become a cult hero at Newcastle is looking highly optimistic now

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

Ajax went to hell and back trying to sign Dost last summer, but Heerenveen stood their ground and told Ajax to gtfo btw. It's common knowledge that Ajax kept close relations with Dost and will sign him this summer btw.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

Is Perch as bad as everyone always says he is?

kid steel (cajunsunday), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

Paul in Newcastle (Australia) on text: "As an Aussie Villa fan, I am super excited by signing of Holman. He copped some flak in the lead up to the World Cup but he ended up being a standout player. Aussie Aussie Aussie, Villa Villa Villa!"

Paul in Newcastle otm tbh, I think Holman is a very decent signing for Villa.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

walcott's decision making is seriously weird at times

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

get out

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

can the swagger NN

you're only top by 1

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

don't think it's possible for a Utd fan to get complacent round these parts

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

rosicky gets his new contract and is back to normal

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

he was actually playing quite well up to that. Pass wasn't great either

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

Rosicky had a v good first half

van Persie should have 4, had 1 great moment in a disappointing performance.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

got to do better than that there

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

fucking hell fivehead

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

there isnt rly a precedent for arsenal dumping expensive signings quickly iirc, but gervinho rly isnt good enough

the main difference between wenger in the last couple of years and the previous three or four when their problems were p much totally defensive is the number of name attacking players who have tanked

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

id typed that post before the miss ftr

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

lol at the quick free

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

he took that corner btw

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

never in doubt

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

typical Arsenal, they will not give up

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

YES MOTHERFUCKER YES

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

need RvP sitdoon.gif

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

To Sam: after last night - Jan Vertonghen on the Dutch MOTD - is pretty clear he will be playing at Arsenal with his buddy Vermaelen next season btw

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

there isnt rly a precedent for arsenal dumping expensive signings quickly iirc, but gervinho rly isnt good enough

the main difference between wenger in the last couple of years and the previous three or four when their problems were p much totally defensive is the number of name attacking players who have tanked

― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:43 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think the spirit of Pires having a SHIT first season is why btw. I don't think Gervinho will be much better next season but Wenger won't give up on him (he's too busy trying to get rid of Denilson, Bendtner, Chamakh, Squallici etc.)

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

FF's given that to RvP as an assist as well. yass

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

big blow to Newcastle's hopes of pipping Spurs to fifth but 10 points over 10 games is still doable

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

what happened that's left everyone baying for blood?

Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

To Sam: after last night - Jan Vertonghen on the Dutch MOTD - is pretty clear he will be playing at Arsenal with his buddy Vermaelen next season btw

― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:56 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've heard his name a lot this week - did he come out and say it? He has a good reputation but I can't see I've watched much Ajax. He's a centre half who is decent on the ball, right?

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

Krul v RVP handbags xp

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

big blow to Newcastle's hopes of pipping Spurs to fifth but 10 points over 10 games is still doable
― Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Monday, March 12, 2012 9:58 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this guy gets it

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

RVP and Krul had been having words throughout the game and it kicked off again after the goal

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

i rly like vermaelen, wd guess he is a better cf than bendtner, doyle or defoe

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

Just as well Newcastle are where they are; the table would look horrendous from an LFC point-of-view if they had a few more or a few less points.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

suppose it technically always kicks off after a goal now that i think about it

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

@Sam, he didn't say it, but he said it alright. HGe couldn't hide it tbh, the pundits were having a laugh with him, because whenever they mentioned Arsenal and his future signing for the club, his mouth went into a twee and dreamy "ffs yes I am signing for Arsenal stop giving me a hard time". He was a guest at Arsenal-Milan, he admitted his manager is working on the deal, he spoke with Wenger etc etc etc.

He's a centre half yes, the best in the Dutch league, by far. Scores 7 to 10 goals in the Dutch league every season, captain of Ajax. Played with Vermaelen for some seasons, his Belgian buddy. Great signing for Arsenal if you ask me. But it's a done deal. I'll eat my shoe if he doesn't sign for Arsenal.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

Lulz at RVP and Krul having words. Van Marwijk will have to manage that for the next friendly tbh lol

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

But it's a done deal. I'll eat my shoe if he doesn't sign for Arsenal.

― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:05 (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Never underestimate Wenger being able to fuck up a signing btw.

Also this is great news. We are actually trying (with real success) to do what the fans have been asking for - improve the squad and do it before clubs w/ bigger money ruin it for us.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

Martin Keown pronouncing Sagna to rhyme with Wagner on the radio

"A poor ball there from Sagneronthebadio..."

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

Ha! Was the 1890s' hipsters' band of choice iirc

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

...

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

Never underestimate Wenger being able to fuck up a signing btw.

Also this is great news. We are actually trying (with real success) to do what the fans have been asking for - improve the squad and do it before clubs w/ bigger money ruin it for us.

― a hoy hoy, maandag 12 maart 2012 23:08 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I hear you, but even Wenger won't be able to fuck this up, trust me. Vertonghen is gawking over Arsenal (and last night he was cornered and admitted for everyone to see what everyone kind of already knew) and he will be Arsenal's best signing of this summer, I am sure. Best signing because he is exactly what Arsenal lacks right now: stability in defense, but with agility and attacking style of play to adapt to the Premiership with relative ease. Wenger will continue to bring in failures like Gervinho, but there's no denying he's been more on the ball with signing defenders.

The leading Dutch pundits jokingly asked Vertonghen last night if he was up for fighting for a place with Koscielny. Vertonghen answered, laughing, that swapping places, sending Koscielny to Ajax and him taking K's place, was the best deal for all involved. Just to illustrate that Arsenal are about to sign him and that Vertonghen is up for it.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

keep the spurs trolls coming

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

look at wenger's smug old face. love that

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

looking at his profile... neville getting a bit podgy already

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

well shit man you are getting me excited! between podolski, ryo, jack and ver... gonna have to learn to spell his name - next season may not be a wasteland!

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

You're talking this guy up a lot LBI - when a hoy hoy does that it tends to go badly

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

yeah I noticed Nev had put on some weight. Adds authority

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger will continue to bring in failures like Gervinho, but there's no denying he's been more on the ball with signing defenders.

hang on... you are joking here right?

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

merte... the statue

verm... the perenially injured

gibbs... the from the youth team

jenkinson... the beleaguered

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

Ismael Klata: You are not even taking into account I am talking up an Ajax player, and how hard it is for me to do that, as a PSV fan. But yes, no doubt Vertonghen is off to Arsenal this summer.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

santos... the can't actually defend but is OK going forward I suppose

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:32 (thirteen years ago)

squillaci... the less said the better

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:32 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger will continue to bring in failures like Gervinho, but there's no denying he's been more on the ball with signing defenders.

hang on... you are joking here right?

― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), maandag 12 maart 2012 23:29 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I beg you, which defensive Arsenal signing as of late has been worse than the attacking signing of Gervinho?

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

carl jenkinson is finished.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

Jenkinson > Gervinho > Park

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

otm

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

*finnish i mean. he has dual nationality.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

What a brilliant goal from RVP btw, creating space for himself and scoring like that. Awesome.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

good news for spurs: relegation is mathematically impossible

mizzell, Monday, 12 March 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)

that's the spirit

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

relegation is mathematically impossible

Pretty sure someone will get relegated, tbh

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

don't tell venky's

jabba hands, Monday, 12 March 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

http://p.twimg.com/An0ZiykCMAADWuP.jpg

nortei nortey (cozen), Monday, 12 March 2012 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

:D

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

rvp was straight up trolling all game, dunno why.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

Is Arteta tiny?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 March 2012 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

that smile is lol. also appreciated his wanking gesture in the liverpool match

mizzell, Monday, 12 March 2012 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

he's kind of crouching there

Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

relegation is mathematically impossible

Pretty sure someone will get relegated, tbh

― Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, March 12, 2012 6:58 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sorry i'm american, still struggling with the concept tbh

mizzell, Monday, 12 March 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/sw7FO.jpg

jabba hands, Monday, 12 March 2012 23:20 (thirteen years ago)

Responding to a question about foreign investment in the Premier League, Redknapp replied: “Where they find some owners now, I don’t know. I remember the first guy they brought in at Portsmouth from Saudi Arabia somewhere. He looked like they pulled him off the stall outside. He looked like the only Arab who didn’t have oil in his garden.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/9139399/Tottenham-manager-Harry-Redknapp-warned-to-mind-his-language-after-controversial-Arab-remark.html

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 08:35 (thirteen years ago)

I remember predicting in January or February that Arsenal and Chelsea would be 3rd and 4th and Tottenham 5th

and people did not believe me

the pinefox, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 08:57 (thirteen years ago)

I think Spurs must still have a chance of finishing 4th above Chelsea, if they can ever get any form back, but not really of finishing 3rd

the pinefox, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 08:58 (thirteen years ago)

Come on pinefox, you only have to match Arsenal and you'll be third. You have better players. This should be just a wobble, these have been hard games.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 09:03 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea still to play City, Spurs, Arsenal, Newcastle, Liverpool + a Europa campaign.
Arsenal still to play City and Chelsea.
Spurs to play Chelsea and no-one else above 8th.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 09:32 (thirteen years ago)

The fate of the top clubs will be decided by QPR. You've all got to play us. Time to rack up the goal difference, big clubs!

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 09:59 (thirteen years ago)

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1. EURGH BBC FORMATTING THESE DAYS. I JUST WANTED AN EASY TO READ LIST LIKE YOU USED TO DO. I WAS GONNA C&P CHELSEA'S AND SPUR'S TOO BUT FUCK THAT NOW.

2. Everton next week is the only real worry there, tbh. I feel we are playing City at the right time, and at home. Stoke away isn't really a 'thing' anymore, is it?

3. Looking at the Spurs fixtures, their game against Bolton on 15 April is postponed. Anyone know why/care?

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 10:09 (thirteen years ago)

Could be to avoid the FA Cup semi-final? They're playing each other in the quarters

Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 10:22 (thirteen years ago)

"coming behind to win for a record 4th consecutive game" isn't a great record to break, is it?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah Arsenal away, Man United then and Everton away, then Chelsea, is about as tough a run of games as you can get at the moment, give or take a City here and there. We *should* be alright for fourth, the run-in isn't tough at all provided something doesn't snap in the players' heads and/or legs.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 11:12 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder how early in the game Everton will be down to 10 men tonight?

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

I bet both Spearing and Adam are off before you are down to 10 :(

Stevie T, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 11:27 (thirteen years ago)

When did this thread become a race to the self-pitying bottom?

Spurs will be fine for 4th (and probably third tbh). Everton, y'all have nothing to worry about except possibly losing Moyes to Tottenham in the Summer. QPR only have to be better than one other club they aren't currently above which, on paper at least, they are. Liverpool fans... sorry, got nothing.

Sam, this is a bit more fun than the corresponding period of last season, no?

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

When did this thread become a race to the self-pitying bottom?

A month or so back, dunno about the rest of you.

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

this has started for spurs since the beginning of these threads afair

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

i think united are going to walk this now, by the way

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

until they get fucked up the arse full dong by city next month

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

futafd

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

things just keep getting better for this poster!

Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

pretty sure there's ilx posts from 1882 where Spurs fans insist the club's foundation is a false dawn

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 12:04 (thirteen years ago)

When did this thread become a race to the self-pitying bottom?

When my team hired mcleish in the summer.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 12:33 (thirteen years ago)

except possibly losing Moyes to Tottenham in the Summer

Which is a fair bit to worry about, tbh. Recall how Everton and Spurs were basically of equal potential for much of mid-late '00s? It wouldn't even have been considered a step up until the last couple of seasons (e.g. EFC finishing 19pts ahead of THFC in 07-08).

I will be ignoring the game tonight. Derbies are bad enough without so much riding on them. (Yeah, I know - "who gets to finish just outside Europa League places"). And L'pool can't lose four in a row. Setting expectations low.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

Kenny Dalglish: 'Kit deals and a happy club are as good as points'

mizzell, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

It's got nil-nil all over it. Liverpool can't do it at home or against anyone outside the elite. Everton are great against teams making the running, not so much against dour sit-in types.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

This is a similar situation to the Anfield derby of four seasons ago, when (a much better IMO) Everton went into it two points behind, conceded an early Torres goal, never really threatened, ended up (only one place but...) 11pts adrift by May.

All set up for a very particular kind of Evertonian disappointment, this - esp with it being Moyes' 10th anniversary, etc. If a supposedly struggling Spurs come to Goodison and rain 23 shots at goal, y'know...

Sorry to be such a misery. I'm mildly stirred at the potential of the situation but a lifetime of anxiety-pacing the colour out of carpets and punching radio commentaries off in frustration has me primed for a 3-0 defeat.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

Sam, this is a bit more fun than the corresponding period of last season, no?

― Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 11:40 (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This point yes but that whole season up until this point was a lot better going. I think I have given up any point of taking us seriously or holding on to my Wengerball beliefs now too, which makes it a bit breezier. As long as we don't come below Spurs.

Excited about tonight. There is always a customary sending off and I think both have been too hesistant in front of goal for too long. Might bet on Suarez goals.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

i've sat on the fence for a while now but fuck it. some serious questions need to be asked this summer. does comolli's remit as director of football include deciding what style of play we're supposed to be playing, or is he a glorified chief scout? the alarm bells were ringing when we signed suarez and carroll in the same window, two players who don't compliment each other at all, and (i'm sticking my neck out here) never will. we need to decide what type of team we want to be, because the summer signings and the subsequent failure of the coaching staff to implement any kind of cohesive approach, style of play or strategy is a fucking shambles.

Chris, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

^^^ Basically exactly what happened to Spurs in the latter days of the Jol era and the Ramos era in particular.

Which is a fair bit to worry about, tbh. Recall how Everton and Spurs were basically of equal potential for much of mid-late '00s? It wouldn't even have been considered a step up until the last couple of seasons (e.g. EFC finishing 19pts ahead of THFC in 07-08

Don't think this is really the case, Everton had the edge on footballing matters for a good while, certainly a better manager, but Tottenham always had more potential just because of the amount of money in the bank.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

I mean I think without Moyes Everton would very likely have been relegated at some point over the last decade. They've never been considered relegation candidates even when they had disappointing starts to a season, there's always been that level of footballing stability there, not to mention that fourth place finish. I'd be absolutely fucking terrified of losing him.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think they'd have got relegated, I think they'd be in a position similar to Villa today (looking lost and fucked financially, lots of bad signings, still not going to go down without some disaster)

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

thanks for the reminder of Villa's woes.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

tis cool homie

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

Everton were regular relegation candidates in the 90s, string of ropey managers etc. Villa have had more buying power for most of that time. Everton could easily have slipped out of the division like Wednesday.and City did back in the day.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

Agree they'd've gone down. They had last-day escapes more than once in the 90s as I remember it. Their fate may be more bound up with one man than is the case for any other club.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

well, them and chelsea

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

everton should have been bought by an oligarch by now, maybe staying up and therefore in the hands of kenwright wasn't a good thing

course, maybe being bought by an oligarch isn't a good thing, ymmv

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

ahh, that everton-coventry game in 98 where gareth farrelly scored, and the chelsea fans willing bolton to score and stay up. classic.

Chris, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

chris may you be ever damned for mentioning wingnut out of the blue like that without a trigger warning

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

Last-day escapes in 93-94 (Mike Walker) and 97-98 (Howard Kendall, part III: The Drunkening).

Early '90s were mediocre but not relegation-threatened.

94-95 was the season of the abysmal start (not much worse than 05-06 under Moyes, tbh), Walker's departure and Royle as Cup-winning savour. Missed UEFA Cup place by a point or smthg 95-96 (Kanchelskis running riot). 96-97 was a headlong rush down the table from Xmas onwards, 98-99 we couldn't score at home to save our lives until Kevin Campbell arrived. 99-2k great start, wobbly finish. 2001 safe by Easter. 2002, a point above the drop zone when Moyes arrived, Unsworth scored vs Fulham after 32sec and we could even afford to lose our last two games and be safe by 7pts.

xxxp

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

it's about Moyes' seeming ability to squeeze a lot out of a small pot as much as whether things were bad before he came along. he'd be a v. tough guy for anybody to replace imo

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

Ah, but you know what was kinda good about the '90s? Our derby record. Didn't lose one between March '94 and April '99 and were unbeaten at Goodison for nearly 11 years. Oh, for some of that good fortune this evening.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

kinda feel that moyes struggles with money, when he's had it

justified? dunno.

not sure he'd be the revelation that's assumed at a better-financed club with higher expectations

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

http://transferpriceindex.com/2011/07/the-declining-fortunes-of-david-moyes-an-mxir-analysis/

not read it yet but it looks interesting.

Chris, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59038000/jpg/_59038804_gettymoyesdalglish.jpg

moyes could be replaced by di canio

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

not saying Moyes is good with money per se, saying he has been great working within the confines of the squads he's had

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

beautiful rubbish, the m£xir stuff, but there's value in the written enalysis imo

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, nv, but that's a very distinct talent that, imo, doesn't in any way relate to how a manager would do when given (leaving cash aside) a bigger/better quality squad and having to manage the different problems that arise in that scenario.

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:34 (thirteen years ago)

The idea that Moyes can't do money, what's that based on?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

specifically acknowledged this as possible fantasy tbf

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

It's not just you though, I've read it elsewhere.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

Moyes has broken the club record for highest transfer fee paid on four occasions, signing James Beattie for £6 million in January 2005,[19] Andy Johnson for £8.6 million in summer 2006,[19] Yakubu for £11.25 million in summer 2007,[20] and Marouane Fellaini for £15 million in September 2008

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

sayin

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

None of those disastrous and Fellaini genuinely outstanding, even if I'm struggling to remember Johnson in a blue shirt.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

r wright 3.5m 2003
beattie 6m 2004
s davies 4m 2005
kroldrup 5m 2005
a johnson 8.6m 2006
jagielka 4m 2007 rip
yakubu 11.25m 2007
fellaini 15m 2008
heitinga 7m 2009

when d moyes spends more than a couple mil, bad things happen a lot more oft than not

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

is Fellaini worth more than 15 now? better buys include pienaar, arteta, and lescott.
xp

mizzell, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

fellaini 'genuinely outstanding' at 15m?

no, no i really think not.

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

lots of 'undisclosed' fees (inc lescott) so i suppose it's open to question as a thesis, but arteta, pienaar, p neville, cahill and p much every other unqualified success moyes has had in transfers inwards has been < 3m or so

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:04 (thirteen years ago)

thinking aboput it, is that kind of a scottish managerial characteristic y/n

many of fergie's bigger buys (obv in a posher shop than moyes) have been questioned over the years

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

andy carroll to thread

Chris, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

well yeah, along with veron, rooney, nani prob earned his way out of this group but anderson v much hasn't, oh i dunno can i get someone from work experience to do up a list pls

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

expect carroll and suarez to link up majestically later and prove me wrong.

Chris, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

ah, the fabled quadruple-jinx, daring effort imo

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

Mad challops being talked here now. Kenwright's been trying to sell Everton for years, sure he'd have loved to sell to an oligarch but Everton isn't really the sort of club they queue up for.

Given how hard Everton are to score against, I don't reckon you can criticise Fellaini, Jagielka or Heitinga signings too much. It's the strikers where he falls down, but none of those are particularly big money signings as these go. Beattie and Yakubu were proven prolific Premiership strikers, I can see why he signed them. It'd be like signing Darren Bent now only for his form and fitness to collapse.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?%2Ftopic%2F166681-well-chuffed%2F

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

not premier league but this is the go-to for random football related stuff for me

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

Wow, they have David Jones emoticons

Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

lol at the wilful cliffhangery by the mod closing the thread

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

challops? bit harsh tbh. down-on-their-luck giants p much the archetype purchase of oligarchs btw

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

finish

kony part 1 (cozen), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

srsly finish

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

first goal by a Liverpool player at home this year.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

classy

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

a big club should go in for this pienaar lad

kony part 1 (cozen), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

no one else in this team would've even contemplated that

Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez would've.... but it wouldn't have went in.

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

if they could only get carroll on the end of more of these suarez knockdowns...

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

everyone talks about carroll but henderson has been the really bad buy so far. At least ive seen carroll play well even if he doesnt score. Hopefully both will come good since they're young enough. Carroll needs someone on the right to get good crosses in.

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

henderson was vg against arsenal tbf

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

Henderson has been good to great all season, apart from the last game. Adam has been the real liability.

Stevie T, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

He has a talent for being anonymous that's for sure

Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

henderson has been 'ok' this season, with good games. Think he'd be good in the centre.

Adam is muck, and a filthy cunt to boot.

Downing not exactly throwing in quality ball after quality ball

Suarez and carroll hardly blameless

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

losing count of the red card tackles in this one tbh

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

g-man 2x

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

ya

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

here's how you do it son

Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

his jump/punch celebration was immense

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

another red there

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

absolutely red for fellaini there ffs

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

you're an embarrassment Carroll

Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

carroll's playing well, passing it brilliantly

Suarez was likeable tonight, until that

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

pretty sure dowd was reaching for his red there, couldn't find it in his arse pocket and just went with yellow

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

I was referring to Carroll's penalty "shout". That was worse from Suarez though

Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

how many elbows does Gerrard get away with per match now?

Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

divided about that from stevie g

Carroll peno shout looked .... a peno? imo.

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

the size of him like

Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

carragher is so fuckin camp

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

3G

Stevie T, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

Told you.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

gerrard hat trick tbfttl

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

I'm getting a really good feeling about next season

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

can he start being good again now, please

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

xpost me too actually IK. it's seldom I'd say it but I think Liverpool could make a "genuine shove" for the title next year.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

told ya. first time andy carroll's looked like a footballer for 90 minutes, and a very good one at that.

Chris, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

A size 10 Adidas Predator X boot stamping on a human face - forever.

In other news, I see Jermaine Beckford scored twice tonight. Ha. Ha.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

damn missed this. suarez and gerrard linked up beautifully for two of those goals. think henderson has been better than adam tbh this season. downing's got 0 assists this season. although maybe you can blame carroll for that.

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:18 (thirteen years ago)

blame kelly tonight for it

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:19 (thirteen years ago)

it'll be awesome if Downing makes it through the whole season with 0 goals and 0 assists. I'm rooting for him

Number None, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:19 (thirteen years ago)

got one against oldham in the cup if that counts

Chris, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:47 (thirteen years ago)

henderson's shown glimpses of real quality and is worth perservering with. adam has been exactly what i expected he'd be when we signed him. billy big bollocks shots from the halfway line, decent tackler but a generally shite defensive game, the odd sexy pass, daft 40 yard passes that the receiver can't do anything with, and an unreliable short passing game.

Chris, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:49 (thirteen years ago)

ironically this has freed up Stevie Me from his traditional role

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 01:36 (thirteen years ago)

no masch in club

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 08:15 (thirteen years ago)

Relegation would hit QPR hard financially because most of this season's big-name arrivals signed lucrative deals which do not include relegation clauses.

Full story: the Mirror

how are there teams still stupid enough not to put relegation clauses in contracts?

Roberto Carlos hopes to sign both Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi for Russian side Anzhi Makhachkala.

Full story: Marca (in Spanish)

Do we have a lol venkysanzhi thread yet?

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 09:08 (thirteen years ago)

DON'T DO IT LIONEL

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 09:18 (thirteen years ago)

cron you can do what the fuck you like

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 09:18 (thirteen years ago)

just tried to make a joke about which of the spurs first xi i'd like anzhi to show unlikely interest in, and tbh i struggled....

Bale, maybe?

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 09:39 (thirteen years ago)

Can see them going for Bale and then maybe Walcott.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 09:42 (thirteen years ago)

They're currently outside the Europea League placings but i'd expect them to get the points to finish in the top six. Still a long way from challenging for the league next year though.

Their biggest problem is that, as was seen with Hulk and Pav, even vast amounts of money aren't enough to persuade the best players that commuting 1500km to home games is a good idea.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:06 (thirteen years ago)

I get the feeling that the vast amounts of money at Anzhi are going to blow up the ridiculousness pay scale. They seem like a club that will make Roberto Soldado the first million pound p/w player or something.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:26 (thirteen years ago)

it's time for downing to shine in russia

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

so Ferguson has supposedly been watching Hazard then. Of course it'll probably turn out he was actually there to see some Obertan type.

Number None, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

I can totally see Anzhi being Adebayor's next club

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:34 (thirteen years ago)

Survey on EPL managers - a bit rubbish but there are one or two interesting things in there. Bit harsh on Pardew, Bergkamp and De Gea; not harsh enough on Terry. I didn't realise Kompany was held in quite so much esteem.

Which Premier League manager has impressed you the most this season?
1 Brendan Rodgers 47%, 2 Paul Lambert 40%, 3 Roberto Mancini 6%, 4 Steve Kean 6%

Who has been the signing of the season so far in the Premier League?
1 Demba Ba 56%, 2 Phil Jones 13%, 3 Scott Parker 13%, 4 Sebastian Larsson 6%, 5 Juan Mata 6%, 6 Craig Bellamy 6%

Which current Premier League players do you rate as the best in each position?

Goalkeeper
1 Joe Hart 69%, 2 Pepe Reina 13%, 3 Brad Friedel 6%, 4 Shay Given 6%, 5 Tim Krul 6%

Defender
1 Vincent Kompany 88%, 2 John Terry 6%, 3 Thomas Vermaelen 6%

Midfielder
1 David Silva 31%, 2 Yaya Touré 25%, 3 Leon Britton 13%, 4 Scott Parker 6%, 5 Gareth Bale 6%, 6 Moussa Dembélé 6%, 7 Ramires 6%, 8 Luka Modric 6%

Forward/striker
1 Robin van Persie 25%, 2 Sergio Agüero 19%, 3 Demba Ba 19%, 4 Luis Suárez 13%, 5 Wayne Rooney 13%, 6 David Silva 6%, 7 Gareth Bale 6%

Who has been the best young player in the Premier League this season?
1 Phil Jones 31%, 2 Daniel Sturridge 25%, 3 Kyle Walker 25%, 4 Oriel Romeu 6%, 5 Scott Sinclair 6%, 6 Chris Smalling 6%

Who will win the Premier League?
1 Manchester City 67%, 2 Manchester United 33%

Which player do you think has been most influential in the Premier Leagues's 20 years?
1 Ryan Giggs 50%, 2 Eric Cantona 13%, 3 Paul Scholes 13%, 4 Alan Shearer 13%, 5 Thierry Henry 6%, 6 Cristiano Ronaldo 6%

Other than your own ground, which stadium/fans create the best atmosphere?
1 Liverpool (Anfield) 50%, 2 Stoke City (Britannia Stadium), 3 Newcastle United (St James' Park) 4 Everton (Goodison Park) 7%, 5 Tottenham Hotspur (White Hart Lane) 7%

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:49 (thirteen years ago)

Phil Jones eh? He hasn't been good at all since before Christmas

Number None, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:50 (thirteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/kenjuggle3/hazzard.jpg

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:53 (thirteen years ago)

you don't just turn someone into the new John O'Shea over night though tbf

Number None, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:55 (thirteen years ago)

Which player do you think has been most influential in the Premier Leagues's 20 years?

And this means... what?

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:55 (thirteen years ago)

it means "how can we shoehorn a question that ryan giggs would be the answer to?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:58 (thirteen years ago)

Giggs has played the most games for the most successful team in PL history. It's simple maths really.

Number None, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:00 (thirteen years ago)

imo it's a bit of an indictment of Giggs that he scores less than 100%. It's the sort of leading question where they might as well pre-print his name on the reply form.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:01 (thirteen years ago)

Oriel Romeu 6%

huh?

Number None, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:03 (thirteen years ago)

bale robbed in young player category tbh

full backs robbed in defender category

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:03 (thirteen years ago)

who is the most influential player in the premiership who has allegedly cheated on his wife with a former miss wales and then took out a superinjunction about it?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

Alberto Aquilani. Almost no-one saw him play, but everyone who did went on to form a Premiership club.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

giggs was shit for a lot of those years, tbf & h

Zola robbed there as well as bergkamp

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

who, in the opinion, is the best player in the premiership who has a very hairy chest that was once displayed during a goal celebration after skinning 5 arsenal players?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

Taking it as a serious question for a moment: what is Giggs' influence? I can think of Beckham, Cantona, Ronaldo, Bergkamp or Makelele as having changed facets of the game; Keane, Rooney or Shearer as having influenced titles. I can't think how the game would be significantly different today for the want of Giggs. Maybe because he was the post-Gazza wunderkind.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:13 (thirteen years ago)

this was a very good game
https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTrIY6ST3gBFFywo0CcG3VzeIer97R1MLZMqlygjP9W8hy2MhU7Dg

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

longevity, first marketable star in british football for a while, kept fairly cleancut til lately, i dunno

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

skinning 5 arsenal players

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

or was it 4

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

that was in the FA Cup though. Doesn't count

Number None, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:18 (thirteen years ago)

He did the first footy celeb-vehicle TV show that I can remember, so maybe props for that. But it was terrible. And Bryan Robson had already guested in Jossy's Giants.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:18 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_q-C9g8x3w

how quickly we forget

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

does everyone agree with joe hart as the best keeper then? maybe it is because lol england #1 but i just cant see him being all that great

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

compared to who

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

dont say scezczenzcy

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

Friedal, Vorm, fuck yeah Chesney, even De Gea

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

Surprised Vorm did not place.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

vorm maybe

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

Hart, Reina, de Gea are three standout keepers imo. I'd have Reina. He makes fewest mistakes, apart from anything else.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

not lately re reina

not likely re de gea

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

tim krul surely?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

flaky imo, can be got at by taunts

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

also al-habsi despite obv bottom of the league

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

It's true, whenever I hear about the guy it's because of another wonder-display. I guess he might be shipping goals every other week, for all I watch Wigan.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

pepe reina error About 308,000 results (but note reina error: About 14,700,000 results)
silly stats:
al habsi error About 403,000 results
friedel error About 434,000 results
joe hart error About 458,000 results
vorm error About 1,070,000 results
szczesny error About 1,130,000 results
cech error About 1,260,000 results
de gea error About 2,240,000 results
tim krul error About 4,000,000 results

given error About 1,080,000,000 results

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

gomes lite imo, highlights reel gk

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

given that given's name has also a given meaning, i believe yr stats need to be given a given level of scepticism

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

szczesny, otoh

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

bear in mind that nobody being able to spell his name has to add another 500% minimum

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

50s American light entertainer 'Uncle' Al Habsie skewing those stats badly imo

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

and elliot smith with his song needle in de gea.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

that song about the goalkeeper with a heroin addiction

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

.... was all lies

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

Sir Dave Richards, the Premier League chairman, has accused Fifa and Uefa of stealing football from the English, while at a sports and security conference in Qatar. He also stated that organisers of the 2022 World Cup in Qatar must tackle the availability of alcohol, saying: "If you don't do something about it you're starting to bury your head in the sand a bit."

Richards, who is also a Football Association board member, also criticised the process for the 2018 and 2022 World Cup bids, saying that Fifa should have made clear that they favoured taking the tournament to new parts of the world.

With the Fifa vice-president Prince Ali bin al-Hussein of Jordan and the International Cricket Council's chief executive, Haroon Lorgat, looking on in Doha, Richards repeatedly reminded his audience that the world had England to thank for football.

"England gave the world football. It gave the best legacy anyone could give. We gave them the game," Richards said. "For 50 years, we owned the game … We were the governance of the game. We wrote the rules, designed the pitches and everything else.

"Then, 50 years later, some guy came along and said: 'You're liars,' and they actually stole it. It was called Fifa. Fifty years later, another gang came along called Uefa and stole a bit more."

Hussein then reminded Richards that there was still a debate over whether the Chinese or the English invented the game, but Richards leapt to the defence of his country.

"It started in Sheffield 150 years ago," Richards said, his voice rising. "We started the game and wrote the rules and took it the world. The Chinese may say they own it but the British own it and we gave it to the rest of the world."

Number None, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

smh

caek, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

sounds like somebody tackled the availability of alcohol

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

ah, thegood old days
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Emperor_Taizu_play_Cuju.jpg

mizzell, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

Any word yet on whether this'll make FIFA more likely to vote for England in future?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

I can't believe you didn't quote this para:

On his way to dinner at the same function in Doha, Richards slipped and tumbled knee-deep into a hotel swimming pool from where he was rescued by Bolton's chairman, the FA board member Phil Gartside.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

oh shit, i didn't even read to the end

Number None, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

"You might be better off saying don't come. But a World Cup without England, Germany, the Dutch, Danes and Scandinavians. It's unthinkable."

sounds like the best world cup ever imo

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

Teams at the 1930 World Cup: Argentina, Chile, France, Mexico, Bolivia, Belgium, Yugoslavia, USA, Brazil, Uruguay, Peru, Romania and Paraguay.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

haha wow
can't believe china is not even in it having invented the goddam sport

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal fan supposedly racially abused tiote on monday.

fucking cunts stop making being a football fan look like something only racist dicks do.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

No reports of Spurs or Man City fans getting up to similar afaik - it appears to be a lagging indicator of big club status.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger will wear a long puffa coat with the fan's photo on it.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

twitter lolz from a friend of mine:

Just named my truck Harry Redknapp. I kick a soccer ball against it at lunch, it's bright red, and it's got a bottle of gin in it right now.

dan m, Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

Surprised at this
The Reds' 3-0 victory over Everton was the first time in more than a year that Liverpool had won a Premier League game in which Gerrard started. The game in question was Liverpool's 3-1 win against Manchester United at Anfield on 6 March 2011 when Dirk Kuyt scored a hat-trick.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

Only 4 games tbf

pandemic, Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

I'm guessing.

pandemic, Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

South Korea have allowed the Arsenal striker, Park Chu-young, to delay his compulsory military service for 10 years.
He serves when he wants.

James Mitchell, Friday, 16 March 2012 10:49 (thirteen years ago)

Gareth Bale is an ambassador for Topps Match Attax 2012, the official
Barclays Premier League trading card game. Gareth is supporting the
launch of this season's Match Attax Extra, featuring new cards for
players who have joined and transferred clubs. Visit toppsfootball.co.uk
or follow @ToppsMatchAttax on Twitter

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/mar/16/gareth-bale-tottenham-champions-league

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 17 March 2012 02:18 (thirteen years ago)

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2012/Mar/Week3/16190671.jpg

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 17 March 2012 02:26 (thirteen years ago)

Kinda silly for 'arry to try shopping for Hazard now before sewing up third place.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 17 March 2012 09:37 (thirteen years ago)

Watching Fulham-Swansea ... what *is* Moussa Dembele exactly? He never seems to score or assist but I gather ppl rate him, and here he's playing deeper than most of the midfield.

boxall, Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

I've felt that way watching him. He is like current Torres without the expectation imo. "Oh he did well running the channels and linking play and stuff. Didn't score though. Oh well, they've got the Pog for that." With Torres its not "they've got the Pog for that" it is "they spent how much and he doesn't score?"

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

was called away from my stream but Swansea are up by two now, a second goal for Sigurdsson, very smart fantasy buy pandemic made.

boxall, Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

0-3 now, entirely down to Senderos' ineptitude, that was a worse sequence than I've seen even Djourou have in some time.

boxall, Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

Dembele has been converted into a midfielder no?

Number None, Saturday, 17 March 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

it's on the FA Cup thread, Ned

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 17 March 2012 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

Dembele has been converted into a midfielder no?

― Number None, zaterdag 17 maart 2012 18:57 (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is what they keep saying here recently, too (he played for AZ before going to Fulham). He was a #10 or striker for AZ, Jol seems to try and convert him to a regular midfielder. I don't watch enough Fulham to see how that works out, but this week I did hear rumors that several other teams in the league are after him?

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 17 March 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

Whenever I've seen Fulham this season he has been too high up the field to be called a midfielder. But then he'd play like one out of position. Either way, omg Muamba, cant think about anything else in football right now.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 17 March 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

xxpost -- thanks, was wondering why nothing here.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 March 2012 18:52 (thirteen years ago)

I <3 seeing ilx in different languages.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 17 March 2012 18:52 (thirteen years ago)

:-)

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

Too right though, it's all over the Dutch telly and radio news too

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

(not Dembele, but Muamba)

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

Interesting stat: this was Swansea's 12th clean sheets this season. Only ManU and ManC have more, 13.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

the fuck's wrong with mulumbu

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 March 2012 23:35 (thirteen years ago)

Valencia back :)

Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

as clear a pen as you'll see

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

zubar should walk

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

rafael is lucky to be on the pitch, 30 mins and three dodge tackles in

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

zubar second yellow, unquestionable. Idiot.

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

Yup

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

both tackles so unnecessary too, cod commitment imo

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

Beautiful

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

oh cracking goal, rooney release and no fuss fifty yard run and finish valencia

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

fucks sake

Stearman is worse than malicious, he's just purely fuckin moronic. How does ref not call that

Good goal wellbeck, three nil

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

Lovely stuff

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

blood in the water, utd swarming

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

Valencia's just a proper old fashioned winger innee? Real opportunity to eat into the goal difference here

Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

wish lennon studied him

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah (re: goal difference) - Ferguson usually gets the team to ease off in these situations and the game peters out, I'd rather they really went for it and banged in six or seven (sorry NV). Last time I thought that, City almost dragged it back to 3-3, but something tells me Wolves aren't going to do that.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

complacency imo

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

I bet you a fiver Wolves don't win this.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

There really is no reason whatsoever to ease off. I mean it's not as if we've got anything else to play for. Hope Pogba gets a decent run out though

Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

What's it like, being able to say this sort of stuff?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

it could be you

Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

It wouldn't feel right. Keep it tight, close Wolves down for the first fifteen minutes, hope they overcommit and we can nick one and make the game safe.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

wtf

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

Wolves aren't doing themselves any favours here, could have had three sent off by now for stupid fouls

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

Valencia's just a proper old fashioned winger innee? Real opportunity to eat into the goal difference here

― Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:25 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is classic ynahtid, lose in europe to technically superior side assembled at a fraction of the cost, then a crapshoot playing on the break vs the worst defence in the epl

valencia is in his element, just dont ask him to do anything innovated past 1950 and you'll be fine

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

46 min: Hernandez kicks off with the ball not on the spot. What with all this positioning of corners so the ball is outside the quadrant, what's this aversion to whitewash?

I've been wondering about this too? Every penalty gets delayed while the ball needs to get respotted too.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

p

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

he's not playing against any defenders that have learned anything innovative post 1950

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

how can they even celebrate a goal as basic as that

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

paul pogba the new tall black lothar matthaus

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

what are the post-1950 wing innovations?

Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

i'm all for hating utd but tbh 4-0 up and wolves deserve the rancour so much more

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

not being able to beat a man, cross or stay wide, i reckon

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

GOAL!

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

fuck's sake wolves are ye fulltime or what the fuck are ye

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

So hateful, if Utd are going to crush a team they could at least have the grace to let Wayne Rooney be the one to score the goals for my fantasy team. Fuckers.

pandemic, Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

beg mick back, on yr fukn knees and beg him back

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

maybe the idea that touchline wingers without first rate technique p much dont work at the top level?

which is fine atm cuz ynahtid arent playing at the top level

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder if 30 points will be enough to stay up this season

pandemic, Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

25 by the looks

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

lol

pandemic, Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

Don't worry, there's no chance of United going down

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

the only rly impressive things abt this side are scholes, ferguson and to some extent welbeck and phil jones

but mainly just the manager and his 37 yr old midfielder

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

the idea that touchline wingers need perfect technique might be outdated since fullback started to become a position for whoever you liked but couldn't fit anywhere else

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

I think they've already got more than 30 pts already iirc. Having an okay season by all accounts.
xxp

pandemic, Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

the rly impressive thing about utd is that their ability to win so far outstrips any other ability in their collective arsenal

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

Phil Jones has been one of Utd's poorest players for quite a while. Keep seeing what you want to see though

Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

yeah wellbeck isn't really much cop tbh, fairly dangerous tho.

Utd's best player this past while- scholes? Evans?

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

the idea that touchline wingers need perfect technique might be outdated since fullback started to become a position for whoever you liked but couldn't fit anywhere else

― deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:56 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maybe in the epl where the fb corps is aging and/or limited, less so in the wider world where they are pretty damn important in providing width upfield

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

Evans, Scholes, Carrick

Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney's keeping the stats ticking over too

Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

Fiorentina went down a man early and lost 5-0 to Juventus yesterday, that match somehow remained watchable, even enjoyable, though. This is awful by comparison.

boxall, Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

jones is just impressive in the way that any talented and unpredictable prospect is, someone who actually excited the ynhtid fans too last year

as for him being crap atm wow whod have thought that a 19 yr old who had played more games than anyone in the first part of the season might start to flag after xmas

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

that's my point nakh, fullbacks can't rly tackle/mark anymore, they rely on athleticism and pace to shut down their man, so trickery and creativity becomes less of a thing in a winger

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not writing him off or anything but he hasn't actually been a factor in Utd getting to the top of the table. They might not be impressing you but that's down to players like Evans, Carrick, Rooney and yes, the 37 year old.

Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

yah i dont rly see that at all

'wingers' are more likely to be inside forwards / attacking mids who cut in with their stronger foot and/or go for the gap between fb and cb

there are a lot of talented players in these categories atm

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

nb yes by impressive i mean ppl who just stand out or do something interesting rather than just productivity

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

valencia is a talented player that doesn't do those things

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

He was also the worst player on the pitch by some margin in last year's CL final. I think Nani's better against top opposition.

boxall, Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

valencia is only really dangerous in a flat 442, which cannot work consistently vs the better teams

hes not alone but represents the diminished ambition and parochialism of this ynahtid side

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan moving off the bottom in style there

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

JOE HART BEST IN THE WORLD

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

#MUFC have 73 #EPL goals this season - their most at this stage of a top flight season since the Busby Babes in 1957-58 (74 goals)

shit though

Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Thorpe

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

cracker from papa cisse

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

#MUFC have 73 #EPL goals this season - their most at this stage of a top flight season since the Busby Babes in 1957-58 (74 goals)

Wait - what? How did that happen? Do City have even more?

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

City have 69 with a game in hand

Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

TC: "I want to take on the reins, I want to be responsible for team selection, I want to be responsible for what goes on at the football club and, for the next 13 games, I'll take that."

Wolves have 9 games left this season.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

fantasy cup run

toandos, Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

save of the season from ruddy

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

Berbatov's off then. Who wants him?

Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:24 (thirteen years ago)

someone who plays football

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:35 (thirteen years ago)

in a bit of a mood today?

Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:37 (thirteen years ago)

Despite Berbatov's advancing years, Danchev underlined his client's desire to remain in a competitive league.

He added: "Dimitar will most probably leave England but he doesn't want to move to the U.S., Japan, United Arab Emirates or championships like these."

= SWANSEA

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:37 (thirteen years ago)

im afraid dimi is an ilx sacred cow & ferguson, rightly or wrongly, has to be the venal cur who underfed him

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:42 (thirteen years ago)

I think his salary might upset Swansea's delicate came from lower leagues all in this together balance.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:42 (thirteen years ago)

oh yes, i'm well aware of Berbatov's exalted status on here. It even transcends his actual contributions on the pitch

Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

theyre in the big leagues now which means they pretty much have to overpay for indulgent 31 yr old flair players until their salary bill reaches 130% of turnover and theyre in administration before 2014

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

his actual contributions on the pitch

i.e. a goal every two games for club and country for his entire career, pretty much

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:48 (thirteen years ago)

sometimes a sacred cow is actually a bovine miracle

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

theyre in the big leagues now which means they pretty much have to overpay for indulgent 31 yr old flair players until their salary bill reaches 130% of turnover and theyre in administration before 2014

yes, it's sadly inevitable that Rodgers and Lambert will be asked if they can do the same next season on the same budget and they'll both say no (rightly) and need three or four players including a "proven goalscorer" - such is the way of second seasons in the top flight :(

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:50 (thirteen years ago)

dimi is kinda singular and just wasnt cut out for playing alongside drones like park giggs valencia etc

he never rly worked with twp either, but his overall scoring record isnt bad considering how deep he played and how incredibly slow he is these days

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:50 (thirteen years ago)

the criticism that he filled up against the minnows is unfair given that he wasnt usually played vs the big teams (understandably) and hernandez and twp are doing the same vs the heaps of shite at the lower end of the table

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:53 (thirteen years ago)

he's deceptively slow, you think he's going to be deceptively quick but he isn't - I think that helps him. Somehow.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:53 (thirteen years ago)

I actually like Berbatov. I don't always agree with the ILF aesthetes' unquestioning worship of certain players though

Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

by which i mean, i suppose, that it should be enough that ferguson wastes the best years of one of the premium talents of european football through a natural/common septegenarian mistrust of the artistry of a genius in the ranks at the height of his masculinity and power without NN and other disciples of the gorbals gangster rewriting the history of the previous few years in an attempt to justify it.

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

there were times where he just looked lazy tbh i mean we gotta be at least slightly h here

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:57 (thirteen years ago)

slight h be demmed sir

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:59 (thirteen years ago)

Tbf one of Swansea's less-heralded achievements this season is un-Jonah-ing Wayne Routledge, so they've a bit of form in redeeming players who look to have shot their bolt in the top flight.

(cue them signing Stephen Hunt and Marlon King)

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 19 March 2012 00:03 (thirteen years ago)

redeeming ffs

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:06 (thirteen years ago)

rescuing, maybe

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:07 (thirteen years ago)

respecting

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:08 (thirteen years ago)

replacing to his rightful throne as the classiest damned bastard in football

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:09 (thirteen years ago)

the shawxshank redemption

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:09 (thirteen years ago)

the shawcross redemption, ramsey autobiog

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:12 (thirteen years ago)

yes

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:12 (thirteen years ago)

how is marlon king doing these days btw

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:13 (thirteen years ago)

another great bruce signing

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:16 (thirteen years ago)

wor lad's done great in the ninth, three jabs a right cross and she's down lak

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:17 (thirteen years ago)

think i already mentioned we were fucked. surprised at utd taking their foot off the gas, there was another 5 goals or more waiting to be had yesterday. about 12 o'clock yesterday i suggested to our elliot that the best option wd be to nuke molineux and rebuild from there. good prospect for league 1 next year imo

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 March 2012 08:08 (thirteen years ago)

does yr elliot also support the family team?

a hoy hoy, Monday, 19 March 2012 08:13 (thirteen years ago)

tragically yes

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 March 2012 08:14 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, more than anyone else in recent years, even Portsmouth ffs, Wolves' plight has the air of you-ain't-coming-back about it.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 19 March 2012 08:21 (thirteen years ago)

ironically we'll be a going concern in the bottom flight too.

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 March 2012 08:24 (thirteen years ago)

3
WULFGAR
March 18, 2012 at 3:38 pm

EVEN BOBBY CHARLTON AND GEORGE BEST WOULD HAVE SCORED FOR MAN UTD TODAY AGAINST OUR POOR TEAM AND ONE IS 75 AND THE OTHER HAS BEEN DEAD FOR 7 YEARS.

WOLVES MANAGEMENT ARE CLUELESS

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 March 2012 10:24 (thirteen years ago)

xpost But Wolves have been careful with wages, haven't they? One of the rare clubs that is in the black every year. On that basis, they'll be back.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Monday, 19 March 2012 11:18 (thirteen years ago)

we have been careful with wages, to the point where we don't seem able to afford premier league quality players

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 March 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

That's the size of it, isn't it? If you're run within your means and competing, you're overachieving.

All this said, I still thought you'd stay up 'til the WBA game. Even keeping Mick you'd've'd a chance. Bolton are now the shouldn't-go-down club though who knows how their season will pan out now. NB assumption that Blackburn's 2-point cushion (and tbf better players) makes them pretty much safe already.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 19 March 2012 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

i thought bolton wd go down before Muamba took ill, think what happened on saturday makes it more likely but you never know how players will react. still: us 20th, wigan 19th, bolton 18th

qpr have got to find a win or two somewhere

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 March 2012 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

just realised i'm worried in case we do hold onto players when we go down

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 March 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

No point jettisoning them just as they find their level. The better ones.

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 19 March 2012 12:39 (thirteen years ago)

i look thru the squad and they're either lacking ability or guts or both. one or two exceptions probly but jesus. and fuck knows what clown they'll put in charge.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 March 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

weird to say this cos he's a cunt who goes missing for half an hour at a time but Jarvis is playing as well as anybody at the moment

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 March 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

QPR, Wigan and Wolves to go down. But Wolves at the moment look like a team beyond normal concepts of badness.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Monday, 19 March 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah it's pretty fucking difficult to predict anything that will happen with Bolton at the moment. Could be galvanised, could fall apart.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 19 March 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

I think Davies is strong enough a character to try for a 'lets do this for Muamba!' dressing room atmosphere. But then I also read a rumour that they might volunteer to drop out the cup because going back to WHL would be too depressing.

Surely though a 'oh fuck, football doesn't mean shit' attitude would be the death knell to the club. And also a p big kick in the balls to Muamba and his p extraordinary story leaving the Congo and becoming a star etc.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 19 March 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

'football isn't important' is ok, short-term, as a general nod t'ward an incident like this, but yeah it's not really something an organisation with however many employees, fans, whatever turnover and whatever targets should ever really *believe* longer than a few days after the shock clears

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

bbc says slight improvements made with muamba :D

why was city-chelsea postponed?

a hoy hoy, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

Because Chelsea played an FA cup tie yesterday

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:14 (thirteen years ago)

Has it been? To when?

Also, what's this about Celtic being refused consideration for Championship/League One? Are they trying?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

lol i forgot that. dunno why it is still on the bbc website as postponed then and not just eradicated until future-date.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:17 (thirteen years ago)

they're playing on wednesday i think?

maybe they technically have to refer to it as a postponement

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it's wednesday

Chris, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

you really oughta look for an alternative to the bbc website man

Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

i should. and i know they exist. i am just too lazy to sort my bookmarks out.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

aw fuck it. boom. done. espn has replaced bbc football as my 1 click top of firefox easy news website thingy.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

This thread's traffic already down 10%

Ismael Klata, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

Also, what's this about Celtic being refused consideration for Championship/League One? Are they trying?

I think it was reported in the Sunday Mirror. Celtic denied having talks. The English Football League Chairman denied having talks.

I think Celtic would jump at it if there was a chance, but there probably isn't. If Portsmouth and Rangers both completely disappeared from each league it might be more feasible but even then I think there's too much resistance.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

Today we are being linked to... Del Piero

I refuse to click these links to see why the hell anyone would write such nonsense. Sure we had Suker for his last season but transfer story lunacy needs to die

a hoy hoy, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

Is there no footy tonight? I thought there was a spread of games this midweek.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

Meaningless midtable clash between Roma and Genoa appears to be the standout.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

An illustration of low grade English football profligacy.
At 5.45 this evening, walking down York Way, I passed the Middlesbrough official team coach - from a Teesside firm, with the MFC badge on the side. A few yards further on, I passed the entire Middlesbrough first team squad, who duly boarded the coach. So, the club bought rail tickets for the team, then paid for the driver to come all the way down from Teesside ... to take them to their hotel. Just a thought, lads: why not just hire a London coach firm for that bit of the journey? It'll save you some money.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

Outstanding work. We need more of these personal anecdotes.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

I thank you. Excitingly, this was the second team this season I've seen an "off duty" football team. Earlier in the season I thrilled to the sight of the PAOK Salonika squad window shopping in Westfield Shepherds Bush.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

I've seen guys in team tracksuits wandering shopping centres on the eve of european ties, and it hadn't until now triggered that I was looking at the actual players. I always thought they were just youth teamers along for the ride. I think I saw Borussia Dortmund once.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

I got stuck in a lift for half an hour with six members of the Krylia Sovetov first team once.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

I've seen guys in tracksuits in shopping centres before. And I've been down York Road.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

Outstanding work. We need more of these personal anecdotes.

Need to revive that thread you started!

Chris, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

I've seen squads of foreign footballers in tracksuits getting on or off coaches outside the Radisson in Glasgow City Centre.

Usually in July/August.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:53 (thirteen years ago)

shoresoforion.jpg

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:58 (thirteen years ago)

slept through the spurs tour bus passing us out en route to london on my school tour in 97

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 01:50 (thirteen years ago)

this explains a lot

toandos, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:16 (thirteen years ago)

A hoy's mention of davor suker reminds me that Maradona listed him amongst his 100 notable footballers, however the only thing he said about him was that he had the knack of making people think he had played much better than he actually had!!

Beckham was listed but in Maradona's opinion he "ate the hen that Simeone sold him at France '98". Whatever that means.

pandemic, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:22 (thirteen years ago)

seems fairly self-explanatory

Number None, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:25 (thirteen years ago)

hard to argue with that

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

Barcelona seal Neymar move for 2014: report

Madrid: Barcelona have sealed a deal which would see talented young Brazilian striker Neymar join the Spanish club in 2014, Cadena SER radio reported.

The report claimed the Catalan giants have already paid 14.5 million euros ($19 million) of the total 58-million-euro transfer fee to the 20-year-old's Brazilian club Santos.

"According to several reliable sources Barca have already paid a quarter of the 58 million euros to Santos to guarantee the transfer of the player," Cadena SER claimed, adding that the date for his transfer was after the World Cup in Brazil in 2014.

The report added that the decision to seal the deal was taken by the player and his father against the wishes of his agent Wagner Ribeiro.

Neymar is considered the future star of Brazilian football and has been targeted by several European clubs, including Barcelona's rivals Real Madrid.

Number None, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

neymarque un club

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

does his agent hate fun or something?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

Intriguing. I didn't think he'd go to Barca, not that they're rigid 4-4-2 or anything but they're a definite 'system' club and Neymar seems a bit free-spirited for that. I'd assumed he'd make another rampaging Real type first, or maybe hook up with Spearing at Liverpool.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)


Valdes

Pique

Alves

Busquets

Xavi Iniesta

Neymar Alexis Messi Villa Pedro

Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

Wait, 2014? Why would they do a deal like that?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

Neymar seems to have an odd attachment to his home country. He's said before he wants to stay there til the World Cup

Number None, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

Pique out, Mascherano can cover defensive duties on his own.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

messi's going to russia though?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

o i c - it's barcelona that hates fun, maybe his agent thinks his flair will become endampened?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

I imagine his agent would like a massive bidding war

Number None, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

Can't wait for Real to weasle their way into the deal, making Barca wonder why the fuck they'd already paid £15m out for nothing.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

henderson joke

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

Neymar seems to have an odd attachment to his home country. He's said before he wants to stay there til the World Cup

what's odd about liking where you live?

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

i believe there was archness at work in the sentence onimo

tho SA superstars do, on the whole, tend to move to europe at least long enough to sign a contract with man city

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

ah right, I read everything with a naive innocence.

Chelsea have sacked budding Balotelli Jacob Mellis for setting off a smoke grenade in the dressing room.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

where's he from? please say persia

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

close, Nottingham

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

^ thinly veiled swipe at multicultural britain imo, scottish littlejohn (weejock?)

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

they come to our country, stealing our pranksters' jobs

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Yr0q_vdInhc/TB9VAU6sKII/AAAAAAAACOY/qe4QLh4dAkk/s1600/gazza1.jpg

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

literally took me a minute to work out that wasn't Stephen Berkoff

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

looks a bit like rosicky

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

looks a bit like the unfunniest thing in the world

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

ah so barca signed neymar cool. i wonder how he'll do in europe.

http://www.cosplayisland.co.uk/files/costumes/4324/38150/Rufio%205.jpg

kid steel (cajunsunday), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

just looking at some transfer figures, in paticular chelsea. didn't realise lukaku's fee could rise to ~18m (according to wiki). and ramires 17m?

Chris, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

Blackburn now closer to Villa than they are to QPR, albeit having played an extra game. Still have to play United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs, though. A win at Bolton would be huge.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

spurs still have 3rd sewn up, that and the FA cup will be a very good season imo, even if we really ought to have finished ahead of the decrepit embarrassment that is utd

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

lol 3rd sewn up?

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

ya you 3rd it here first

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

What's happened? The Bolton game just what you needed to steady the nerves?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

still think spurs can pip newcastle for 5th

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

idgi, r u guys srs

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

we're 3rd as is, with the hard games over. i'm not ruling out 2nd

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

bale and modric haven't really got going yet, tbh, and adebayor will start to come back into it with the expiration of (albeit loan) a contract, i'm sure

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

Reach for that rainbow, the manc clubs might cancel each other out.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

and adebayor will start to come back into it with the expiration of (albeit loan) a contract, i'm sure

― less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:18 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol adebayor hopes

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:22 (thirteen years ago)

targeted adebayor hopes, not that blind pull-it-from-the-sky shit you do!

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

i'm not even confident, that's how sure i am of 3rd, i'm not actually bothered to be confident. i'm complacent, tbh, pure complacent.

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

easy to be complacent with a 1 pt buffer zone from your nearest rivals and a narrative that's only moving in one direction

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

'narrative' oh cmon is that what yr reduced to, pls

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

darraghmac delivering the module

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

lol

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

been a quiet day

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

Adebayor has proved time and again that he gets bored after about 4 months and do so again this season. You have to be trolling, right?

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

ah trolling is such a strong word

do i think we'll finish third, looking at us, ye, chelsea and remaining fixtures? yeah, i think so.

would i put a quid on it? nope.

will adebayor score 1 in 2 for the rest of the season? reckon so, but a lot depends on arry not fucking round with formations and rotating intelligently instead.

tbh, the more i look at arry's performance since capello rip'd the less sure i get. arry out.

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:49 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs are the only team you can see third atm

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

i think we're there on merit, with a decent run of games left tbh

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

ah shit sunderland are missing chances like it's the point

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/2012/03/21/leigh-griffiths-in-punch-up/

shd get this lad back post-haste, at least he looks like he's still got some fight in him

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 10:54 (thirteen years ago)

Same guy managed to get himself banned three times in half a season for gesturing at fans.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16704239

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

http bit cut off that address :/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16704239

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 11:03 (thirteen years ago)

this is the kind of will to win that cd keep us up

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 11:12 (thirteen years ago)

Fucking Blackburn. What the fuck are they playing at? How can it be a five-team relegation scrap if they keep winning? Bastards.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 12:29 (thirteen years ago)

http://bestuff.com/images/images_of_stuff/210x600/craig-62127.jpg?1179361553

Lee Griffiths, yesterday

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

It's not their fault if the other four aren't scrapping

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

blimey games tonight. which one to watch!

Summer Slam! (Ste), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

in my case none as they do not appear on my computer

I do not really see Tottenham beating Stoke City

the pinefox, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.imgnook.com/55Polo.gif

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwshOFkTypI&

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

I think I'm cooking wrong

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

based

pandemic, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/2012/03/21/leigh-griffiths-in-punch-up/

shd get this lad back post-haste, at least he looks like he's still got some fight in him

― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 10:54 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hibs have since denied any of that took place - describing the actual incident as a standard training thing with outspoken players (so some fire with the smoke) and have said he'll remain at Hibs. The original story in the Mail was pretty much c&pd from a forum.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

loooooooool yaya toure "wiki bum time? what's that?"

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

ha

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

A wiki bum bum down

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

nobody in house, nothing to do, might v well min-by-min this bitch

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

in the same boat more or less but with less attention span

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

sec-by-sec then

wiziwig has me looking at vacations in alaska, but i'm optimistic this will be replaced by spurs/stoke any moment now

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

maybe a return for ILFCHATZ??

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

nah let's do the show right here, don't think i've even got AIM installed

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

hang on you're gonna watch spurs aren't u?

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

gonna try for both

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

i'll do spurs min-by-min now, tho

1-90 pulis is a cunt in charge of cunts and the ref's been a cunt tonight, bale leaves pitch on two stretchers and we lose by one shot to 65

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

i've got some dude advertising prostate pills o_O

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

got a good flash stream now, no pills

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

Torres starts in the middle

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

benny's got the fro out, pretty sensible lineup from harry.

mizzell, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

corner for citeh

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

fullscreen not allowing for ilxing seeya

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

nice from nando

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:54 (thirteen years ago)

Mata, not so much

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

torres looking kinda... up for it

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

been waiting a lomg time for crouch to put in a CF performance here.

Palacios looks 'stoked'

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

shit, Nasri hits the bar, Cech nowhere

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

awesome effort from the little twerp

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

massive game for city fans tonight... facing the club they used to support

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

bad decision from Yaya there i think

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

lol

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

another 2 high quality EPL defences on display tonight

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

who is this nasri fella

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

saha actually passing to stoke, like actually can't tell jerseys apart

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

Are Spurs wearing their grey kit?

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

massive game for city fans tonight... facing the club they used to support

nice one

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

listening to Spurs game on BBC London, to my profound shock it sounds like Stoke are bossing it

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

I think I'm going to forego visuals tonight too. Slightly regretful 'cos I remember the Stamford Bridge game being excellent.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

i don't mind not being as committed as stoke, but we don't actually seem to be even as committed as spurs out there, kinda lackadaisical out there ito passing

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

ad just interrupted our first serious chance fuuu

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

game's on ITV then?

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

kaboul just cunted a ball into walters' stomach. ouch.

mizzell, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal 1-0 up, Vermaelen

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

w00t. can't find a working stream to watch it though, may just go for chelsea-city. or make dinner.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

These effing ads. A new development I'm getting is ads that don't go off, so you have to reload.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

magic
dot
tv

Summer Slam! (Ste), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

ignore that

Summer Slam! (Ste), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

nice effort from nasri, big modders putting himself about, stoke have had three players down already and diao off

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

oooh finally found a decent stream. coyg.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

bae pulls rank on vdv and bale for fk 20 yds out. Not bad effort tbf.

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

These effing ads. A new development I'm getting is ads that don't go off, so you have to reload.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, March 21, 2012 8:12 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tried watching full screen?

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

krancjar absolutely running the show

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

ref pulls kaboul up for a tug on his marker during a spurs corner.

Way for the ref to set a precedent....

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

I usually do xps, but I was trying to do work at the same time. Have given that nonsense up now obviously.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

everyone on spurs team trying to play lcm this is a problem

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

CARD HIM REF

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

this is rubbish btw

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

ekotto, bale, vdv, modric, parker, kaboul, king and krancjar all srsly trying to occupy same ten yards, this is cloggy.

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

It really is.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

complacency


Pos Team P GD Pts
1 Man Utd 29 46 70
2 Man City 29 49 67
3 Arsenal 29 19 55
4 Tottenham 29 18 54

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

where the hell does Torres even play now?

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

onimo scoring the easy chance

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

rubbish rubbish rubbish rubbish rubbish

City just starting to get their eye in maybe

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

where the hell does Torres even play now?
― Number None, Wednesday, March 21, 2012 8:31 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

RW

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, i said that when he turned up on the left. He's definitely afraid of getting in the box

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

ffs so fkn sloppy here, parker losing footing in the box two on two, bale scuffing crosses, not playing *badly* but stifled too easily and making basic errors

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

Balotelli, we hardly knew ye

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

krancjar absolutely running the show

― less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:18 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

off at half time

mizzell, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

Is there a dourer substitution in all football?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

oh yeah i meant to say that was the utmost sarcasm

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

xposting like crazy 2nite

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

lol i wasn't sure, he did have 2 passes that were some of the best chances
xp

mizzell, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

any time i see krancjar and running together, i should know...

mizzell, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

'the Poznan ... the celebration that City fans have made famous'

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

spurs strikers don't move towards crosses, it's bewildering....

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

Nasri hits bar again

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

ghost goal

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

Wow, City fans *really* excited about winning that corner

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

small club mentality

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

terrible goal

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

ha ha

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

And they wait...expectantly...[Toure skies it]

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

ugh rotten

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

always had a lot of respect for Chelsea

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

Clinical strike from Cahill

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

Oh man, I can't face a United procession for the next two months.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

kidding me, link froze on a lethal looking stoke cross

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

decent chance apparently but 0-0 still

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

whatta bunch of chokers

kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

Right, redeem yourself as a human being you prick.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

Not you, Cajun

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

surprising this liverpool game is 0-0

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

surprising like wednesday being the day after tuesday

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

loltevez

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

Coates!

Stevie T, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

so many of city's players have been disappointing since christmas. silva, aguero.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

i'll get my coates

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

Seems Balotelli drove around Manchester dressed as Santa giving away their talent.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

Dos Santos coming on

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

Tottenham could be in fifth by the end of March. This is terrible stuff.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

welcome to shitsville

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

still sure newcastle won't take fifth from them tho

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

there'll be a post I'll be pasting here in that eventuality xp to MDC

1-0 Stoke we are truly fucked

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

Redknapp for England.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

fucks sake saha's pass 0 is fucking 0

FUCKIN CUNTS

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

LOL

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

obvious 'peno'

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

fuckin cunts

Cant argue with the scoreline says some cunt on my stream hope he dies

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

fuck

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

kun!

kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

Tevez to score the winner with his arse

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

this is getting better and better

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

I've just realised we've had one league win since January 11th.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

glad i wrote the min by min n advance for this shit, means i can prepare the bath and straight razor now

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

modric: still absolute shit at set pieces.

mizzell, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

classic darragh complacency, use a gun instead

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

shots on target 15-2 set piece coach still m jol imo.

Every corner hitting first man, fuck off lads

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

would confidently put money on Spurs for sixth if I was a betting man

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

ha cozen

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

no centre forward without adebayor, stoke crushing this to death whenever we get within forty yards, how can playing against bale vdv modric look so fucking easy ffs

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

Fabulous goal from nasri

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

oooh

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

That was brilliant

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

fuck that shit. BOOOOOOO

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

Nasri deserves that, the cunt

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

never in doubt

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

fell apart once torres was subbed out

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

maybe the spurs players love harry so much they're doing their best to stop him getting the england job

lovely city goal there, race back on

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

Was going to say Tevez showing all the guile and mobility of Socrates, in his Garforth Town days, but that was his assist and was great

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

Would cheer for literally anyone against man u

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

bale runs towards packed stoke box, meets defoe coming other way, howls of derision from dmac couch

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

assist from tevez, hungry from his loss of £9m or w/e

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

guy with a "welcome to manchester" t-shirt, doesn't say "again" at the bottom

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

Is Dzeko really, really, really terrible?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

jesus christ these guys don't think goals matter do they

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

Drogba you dick

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

Lol Stoke must be the worst team in the world to lose against

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

I don't understand what's going wrong, Defoe should be winning so many more of these long balls.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

five mins of stoppage time at WHL which is at least something for what sounds like endless Stoke timewasting

will give them a chance to run down and notch a second too so that'll be nice

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

comeback on at QPR

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

haven't had one decent chance all night, can't rember us having the ball in the stoke box once. Stats would suggest we've been attacking, but we've just kinda worked it lazily around then punted it at begovic. Rotten performance, mentally lazy.

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

VDV 1-1

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

gol!

mizzell, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

finally a headed goal for spurs.

mizzell, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

rah, unmarked from a cross wtf!

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

stoke wasting time from ko!

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

still proud to support city

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

fuck me if we'd conceded the peno there...

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

shit Spurs corner as the last kick of the match

it's all too perfect

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs will still be in the CL places come 3pm on Saturday, I dunno what you're getting het up about

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

would have been lol if spurs scored on the last corner.

mizzell, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

Generally quite relieved at that and then I saw Arsenal in third and suddenly all the pain came back.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

just seen coates goal. nice one.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

not familiar w/ BBC London enough to know their biases or lack thereof but it sounded like Pennant spent most of the game being a prize twat

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

but it was a lazy shitty effort from the setpiece taker instead, surprise surprise.

Still a rotten performance, possession without intent to supply imo

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

An Everton goal in the next few minutes would be quite nice though, how are they doing?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

aguero was p good

nasri too

main diff w/ citeh now is silva who looks v tired

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

QPR score of course

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

GET INVOLVED

A massive, massive win for Manchester City in the title race then, and trust Carlos Tevez to be instrumental in it. Thoughts? You must have loads. Tweet us on #BBCFootball, ping me a Tweet at @TJRostance, or drop us a text on 81111. REMEMBER TO PUT YOUR NAMES on those texts though if you would. Ta.

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

massive, massive

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

massive, massive win for the massives' massives

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

massive

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

massive. trust him. loads. ping. ta

kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

the gurning Mark Hughes reminds me of George Bush

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

holy shit QPR!

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

cmon everton ye cunts ye'd do it to us

oh phil thompsons face omg

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

ffs ffs ffs ffs everybody out

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

lol

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

YES
YES
YES
SDJKFAJLKSDFNBIL/KSD.MHFDSA.KFJNAskladrkl.je

r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

woof

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

The shittest goal you will ever see

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolverpool!

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

the kraken awakes

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

fuck off liverpool

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

LOLverpool, the gift that keeps on giving.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

Best sport in the world.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

everton goal disallowed wtf

thanks liverpool :)

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

wb rtc

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

lol rtc's batsignal there xp

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

welcome back r|t|c :D

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

Best sport in the world.

― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), woensdag 21 maart 2012 22:51 (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

lol rtc wb

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

hey rtc. massive massive night.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

ahhh such a great feeling to rejoice in liverpool failure again

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

'again'

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

bwahahaaha

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

kenny out, mccarthy in

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

Scoodenfroodry. Sorry IK :)

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

So glad City won tonight. LFC's league results aren't gonna matter anymore so shrug about that. Kinda pissed QPR get closer to Blackburn tho.

pandemic, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

Roberto Mancini has just said 'squeeky bum time.' Sounds brilliant in his accent.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

damn, didn't realise Downing got an assist tonight.

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

Evening all.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:12 (thirteen years ago)

sup

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:13 (thirteen years ago)

jesus coates!

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

yah great goal from the lumbering fat tongued woodgate lookin cunt tbf

r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

Far more satisfaction taken from QPR's win than any other result this evening tbh. Didn't watch it but I assume Liverpool collapsed like the proverbial souffle in a cupboard?

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

the hell I'm going round calling him Cowahtez, he's Ralph's grandson end of

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

ah, it was a blocked shot. The record continues

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

oh amazing from suarez there in the buildup to kuyts

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't realise MOTD was on was lol watching Martin Sorrell on Newsnight. thx deems

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

ffs... 3-2. league results indeed are now irrelevant but still. fuck off liverpool is exactly how i feel as per ismael. it doesn't even matter who they get in, they're perma-fucked.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

who's this forty year old guy scoring qpr's first goal.

Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

who's lfc #14? nice of him to give derry a piggyback

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

seriously, this is a new thing for ye, this is much more of a spurs type thing

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:18 (thirteen years ago)

actually couldn't lol at QPR's third, it was just too feeble

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

great night of football, even if i was a little frustrated by small elements of the spurs game

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:20 (thirteen years ago)

wait who's this "kit deal" bloke that scored liverpool's equaliser...?

r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:21 (thirteen years ago)

oh snap

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:21 (thirteen years ago)

Kenny wasn't as bolshy as usual

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:22 (thirteen years ago)

if you can beat liveprool, you can beat anyone

no, lee, not really

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:22 (thirteen years ago)

sure he didn't say "anyone can beat liverpool?"

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:23 (thirteen years ago)

no, it was definitely liveprool

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:25 (thirteen years ago)

bright spot today- modric looked brighter on the ball than he has in a while

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:26 (thirteen years ago)

who played jerome onside there, forgot to ask earlier? kaboul? was poor again tonight, shaky under aerial ball and gave it away for fun

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:30 (thirteen years ago)

ledders is done i reckon, time to let go

r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:32 (thirteen years ago)

stats are bunk etc but Spurs 71% possession jfc :/

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:32 (thirteen years ago)

At least Suarez is staying. Why exactly is Suarez staying?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

xp yeah King sounded totally overwhelmed going by the radio commentary

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

without intent, no balls played in, no movement from the frontmen

stoke were much better tonight than they were when they robbed us earlier in the season

king was well off the pace, yeah

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:34 (thirteen years ago)

Hansen: "In fairness, well done Tottenham" lol

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:34 (thirteen years ago)

Vermaelen and Van Persie don't really seem to want to hug each other ;_;

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:36 (thirteen years ago)

gotta be kidding me was that given offside at home

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

fuck off

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

Drenthe's not been more onside in his life tbh

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

never mind daylight that's an eternal sun

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

Mancini saying "squeaky bum time"

http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,,16469_7616311,00.html

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:40 (thirteen years ago)

and that's a red

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:40 (thirteen years ago)

In which English accent does "Pienaar" sound like "Peanut"?

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:42 (thirteen years ago)

racist one?

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

The match commentator right there was a racist then

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

how have i never noticed the Olsson twins

Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

maybe u spent too much time 'noticing' the olsen twins?

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:02 (thirteen years ago)

think royston ricky's onto something with this gentlemanly "r.r. drenthe" lark, the league should make it mandatory

r|t|c, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:03 (thirteen years ago)

I'm more of an Elizabeth Olsen man myself

Number None, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:04 (thirteen years ago)

pegguy arphexolsen

r|t|c, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:06 (thirteen years ago)

>>> if you can beat liveprool, you can beat anyone

I noticed this too!

not sure what happened to Liverpool
the great cup team

the pinefox, Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

think they will finish 6th though unless Tottenham do!

the pinefox, Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

still stick-on for third

less of the same (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

aww

Upt0eleven, Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

it is what it is tbh

less of the same (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

Amazing night at Loftus Road. So much fun.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

Will always love Djbril.
Caotes goal was v fine.

pandemic, Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

think THFC can get 4th, but not 3rd.

the pinefox, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

The match will be played on 19 May 2012 at the Allianz Arena in Munich, Germany,[1] home of Bayern Munich and 1860 Munich,[2] although the stadium will be referred to as "Fußball-Arena München" for the match as UEFA does not recognise sponsorship by companies that are not among its partner organisations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_UEFA_Champions_League_Final

the pinefox, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

Good Grief

pandemic, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

Mar 24 Chelsea v Tottenham Hotspur
Apr 1 Tottenham Hotspur v Swansea City
Apr 7 Sunderland v Tottenham Hotspur
Apr 9 Tottenham Hotspur v Norwich City
Apr 15 Postp Bolton Wanderers P - P Tottenham Hotspur
Apr 21 Queens Park Rangers v Tottenham Hotspur
Apr 29 Tottenham Hotspur v Blackburn Rovers
May 6 Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur
May 13 Tottenham Hotspur v Fulham

Mar 24 Arsenal v Aston Villa
Mar 31 Queens Park Rangers v Arsenal
Apr 8 Arsenal v Manchester City
Apr 11 Wolverhampton Wanderers v Arsenal
Apr 16 Arsenal v Wigan Athletic
Apr 21 Arsenal v Chelsea
Apr 28 Stoke City v Arsenal
May 5 Arsenal v Norwich City
May 13 West Bromwich Albion v Arsenal

Spurs and Arsenal both have pretty good run-ins, with Spurs having the slightly easier road. But Arsenal have won 6 in a row, in the kind of form Spurs were in back in the first half of the season.

mizzell, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

Think those first 3 games for Spurs are quite hard tbh. If they finish the season like they did last time then they'll come 5th imo

pandemic, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

At home to Man City and Chelsea and away at Stoke are the only games for Arsenal that look iffy. Think Spurs are good for 15-18pts out of that lot. Arsenal 18-21pts. The bigger concern for Spurs obviously Chelsea so a draw on Sunday might suit them okay.

pandemic, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

i think, if i were the type to ever analyse my own footballing psychotic episodes, that i would find in me a disbelief that current arsenal will hold a streak this hot for much longer. If they do, i will re-evaluate my opinion of their current bunch. I also think that a run of tough fixtures has affected our form disproportionately, but obviously if the knockon effect is to go into a tailspin then it's not v important that the first 4/5 bad results are justified.

less of the same (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

run of tough fixtures plus niggling uncertainty about manager's long-term commitment to the cause?

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

really can't see the harry for england thing being that big of a deal. lack of squad rotation has probably had some effects on players performance, plus resulted in the sending out of pienaar and corluka who could have helped. i guess pienaar isn't an out and out winger but more so than anyone else we have behind lennon and bale.

mizzell, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

lack of a credible '1' apart from adebayor isn't helping, arry's unwillingness to rest players despite a great squad hasn't helped, all of this ahead of the england thing tbh

less of the same (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

Huntelaar has a 'release' clause of 20m Euros apparently. If LFC could offload Carroll for roughly the same (hollow laugh) I'd be happy to take Huntelaar instead.

pandemic, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

Whether he'd want to give up probable Champs Lge football in favour of a few years of Europa Lge is another matter entirely.

pandemic, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.theawl.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/wimpy.jpg

mizzell, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

Actually there are 'only' 2 players at LFC that I'm really unhappy that we signed - Adam and Carroll. After 3/4 of a season I'm okay with Henderson and Downing.

pandemic, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

harsh on carroll, or soft on the two lads tbph.

Spurs should be snapping hands off for huntelaar

less of the same (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

i'd actually chance a cheeky bid for caroll at the 10m range

less of the same (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

cheeky

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

henderson & downing are quite good, not-quite top four players

adam & carroll are so bad

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

ha true

Just a bid, then

less of the same (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

spurs cld get maybe

remy?

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

carroll was great against everton, i'm still hopeful. adam's a decent option i suppose - pundits in talking shite shocker, but gary gillespie's "better than xabi alonso" a few months back was an absolute gem. still not watched last night yet, will flick through later. their goals were just really sloppy - skrtel and enrique at fault for a couple. can't be too hard on them, they've been great all season. seemed to be the same old problem of not putting enough chances away and not controlling the game to see it out.

Chris, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

great
decent

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

they arent even shite

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

BETTER THAN ALONSO! Charlie Adam? My brain is explod...

pandemic, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

adam is shite tbh

Chris, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

i will stan for carroll even as they lower him into the roiling mersey, his thumb held aloft as the last thing to vanish into the murky waters, as the distant drums kick in and tears roll down the face of the local john connor

less of the same (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

Whether the Reds have ever properly replaced the 30-year-old remains up for debate between the club's loyal fans, but Gillespie insists Scottish international Adam is the man who could go on to bigger and better things on Merseyside following his summer arrival.

"Adam's performances all season have been excellent. He's a midfield player that makes things happen. He hurts teams, and he hurts defences with his passing,"

how true.....

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

As I recall it we spent last summer being very wary of the recruitment policy, especially Adam. It'd've been nice to have been proved wrong.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

Byw Chris did you see any of the next gen games? Andre Wisdom looked good in a ball playing CB who is ropey defensively David Luiz kinda way. Adorjan looked useful as well.

pandemic, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

btw when i was pondering the impact of the England job i was thinking as much of anything about on 'Arry 'imself - maybe mentally he just hasn't been there to the same extent since Capello "resigned".

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

he hasn't, but you've to extract that from hearts and courts and everyfink else, s'no wonder ee can't pick a balanced team raaht naaah

less of the same (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

huntelaar would be foolish to leave schalke now, imo. after getting jerked around by milan and madrid, he should be enjoying being the big fish and schalke look pretty safe to be in the CL next year.

mizzell, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

xposts. i did yeah, he's usually an absolute beast of a defender, very solid. just had a few bad games in the nextgen, as did quite a few others tbh - hell of learning curve that tournament, great experience for them. i expect he'll be going out on loan next season, definitely one to keep an eye on. adorjan's a lovely player. went off the boil in the middle of the season but he's really picked up of late.

sterling's the one though. he's been travelling with the 1st team squad, warming up pre-match. don't think he's done a single interview, not even on the club's tv channel. being protected as much as possible - they know he's special. wouldn't be surprised to see him come off the bench before the end of the season.

Chris, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, only seen Sterling twice tbh. V direct, v talented.

pandemic, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

i've seen him, looked uninspired tbph but hey one performance tbf

less of the same (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

IK; i was wary but i still expected us to build on last season - that's been the most disappointing thing. we stumbled on a solid platform of lucas and spearing, and we went and ignored it. our midfield hasn't sat right with me all season. i said it months ago, we're far too reliant on lucas doing everyone's defensive duties. the priority should have been to strengthen the holding area, upgrade on spearing, and stock up on all-rounders who can do the basics and play the right way. apparently comolli wanted cabaye, but kd insisted on adam. henderson would be preferable in there, his problem's confidence not ability, but we're insisting on him starting wide and coming inside in this lopsided 442. argh, i dunno. last night didn't surprise me at all. no idea what to expect going into next season now.

Chris, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/mar/22/forgotten-story-abraham-klein-referee?CMP=EMCFTBEML853

(Not prem-related, but this thread seems as good a place as any for it)

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 22 March 2012 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

read that earlier, thought it was fantastic

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 22 March 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

^^^
Co-sign, the forgotten stories strand is nearly always a treat to read.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 22 March 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

Brilliant article, thanks for linking.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

pages that don't open are about the worst thing imo

less of the same (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.imgnook.com/55Polo.gif
― Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

don't think this got enough play

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

cozen otm

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

top 2 stories on bbc football atm:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17473359
"Manchester United's Rio Ferdinand has had a dig at Manchester City fans by suggesting they are only more visible now the club is tasting success."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17464950
"Manchester United great Bryan Robson says Sir Alex Ferguson's zero-tolerance approach to unruly players has given his club the edge over Manchester City in the Premier League title race."

ferguson should try not speaking to them for another decade, seems to have worked pretty well.

jabba hands, Friday, 23 March 2012 10:46 (thirteen years ago)

Fergie has also attacked Tevez for 5 months holiday in Argentina and called it 'desperate' in response to Vieira on Scholes

the pinefox, Friday, 23 March 2012 11:33 (thirteen years ago)

rumours of a jenas contract extension abound, tho i imagine it is merely an option being exercised by his side

less of the same (darraghmac), Friday, 23 March 2012 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

at Villa?

the pinefox, Friday, 23 March 2012 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

he's back with us after an injury

less of the same (darraghmac), Friday, 23 March 2012 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

Paul Merson has just said that Spurs should have spent money in January because McDonald's still advertise their burgers.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

otm

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs make burgers?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

draw plz, tx

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

v chummy in the tunnel there. oh for the days of viera/neville/keane

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

COYC

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

am the only person who hates how on the BBC home page the link for the saturday football coverage moves when you go to click it

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

#fwp

Ⓣⓗⓐⓝⓚ。:.゚ヽ(。☉౪ ⊙♡)ノ゚.:。+゚ Ⓨⓞⓤ☆ (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

h8 u

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

how'd they fuck that up

how'd they get 2 man unmarked 12 yards from goal ffs?

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

centre halves not even attempting to track the chelsea strikers here this is gonna be ugly imo, BAE is not gonna come out on top against drogba

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

refs a cunt #1

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

Is anything happening in this match? (am listening on radio & it sounds like there isn't)

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

not that I can tell.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

No shots so far.

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

Honestly, it sounds like they're commentating on an extended injury break

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

blatant nelson

hard in da hummus (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

Not as bad as Germany-Austria World Cup '82. Quite.

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

thats a peno

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

how is Gallas' takedown not a penalty?

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

Ooh, a corner!

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

parker seems to be the last man back at all times

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

gnev bemoaning that k walker didn't perform brilliantly with his defensive header after having to take on drogba form a cross

again, where're the fucking centre halves

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

Gah, free at the far post as well

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

great run/play from adebayor, might well hold walker to account for blindly continuing to run right into the chelsea goal tbh

no sign of a midfield as yet

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, he should have held his run a little

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

so sick of the sight of shabaaz mughal tbh

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

i mean credit to the dude and everything

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

but then again if the cross had been low and fizzed and he'd been a yard off it he would've been blamed also.
xxp

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

the backlash begins

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

no prospect of a fizzed cross from adebayor's right when he wasn't even at the touchline, entire defence in the way.

that's why he's a right back i guess, like rooney- no forward's instinct for these details

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

lol ik

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

holy shit gallas

maybe that's why arry doesn't want him near anything

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

gallas got lucky there

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

a cole getting in behind the defence then despite vdv's earnest and dedicated attempts to track him lol

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

So Chelsea are a long ball team apparently. I've slept thru' the Prem this year and appear to have missed this development.

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

that's a foul

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

it's not that, it's that we can't deal with long balls

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

our set piece delivery, from what, 3? so far, has already been far far better than the 25 attempts to clear the first man against stoke

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

A Shot!!! Miles over but oh well.

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

and people say Utd are shit

Number None, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

they're right
3 shots in 2 secs

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

heh

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

VdV should have scored there. Easy chance.

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

utd's shitness has been the subject of long and thoughtful analysis, NN- kindly do us the same courtesy

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

torres comes on and scores 2 guaranteed

hard in da hummus (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

certainly long
xp

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

I haven't got much material to work with here man

Number None, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

that was genuinely the worst 45 minutes of football I have ever seen in my life

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno tbh i was reading ilx

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

Looking at the replay don't think gallas on lampard was a peno.

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

why? He sticks his leg in front of him and wipes him out.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

it was a trip/block as lampard went for the ball, clear as day tbh

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

completely disagree

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

I went to the pub and sat next to a man who looked like David Moyes if David Moyes was a heroin addict, it was hard to give that up but I couldn't take any more of that

didn't look a penalty to me but maybe I just hate Lampard too much to acknowledge physical harm to him

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

sounds like moyes^2 tbh

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

lovely feint by modric

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

christ gallas

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

adebayor everywhere but up front holding it up, bale nowhere, vdv at random, harry really not enforcing any kind of positional discipline on this team.

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

adebayor playing like he's playing off a main striker

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

This game is pretty horrid to watch. Expected better from both sides.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

bale at LCM must be maddening for spurs fans

hard in da hummus (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

y

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

vdv at rm also

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

adebayor at lw also

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

that was a bit better i spose

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

bit languorous

hard in da hummus (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

another reason why walker's not a fwd, but he's been ok in possession today vs most of the rest of em

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

ffs adebayor

he's hanging round that back post like gollum, you're 6ft 3 man ffs get in there and work

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

Adebayor looking like Thierry Henry on NY Red Bulls. He's tracking back to get the ball because he's getting absolutely no service from his midfield. Of course, that same midfield isn't running forward to fill the space he vacated so it doesn't achieve anything.

Sad, really.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

but adebayor's job is to keep the cb's nominally occupied and to thereby earn the midfield space to work in, at lease that's how it worked when we were doing well early on in the season. his galloping off towards the wings to take a touch or two before losing it doesn't achieve anything and twists everyone else out of shape (assuming they're in shape to begin with tbh)

no peno there, obvs

mata's touch a while back was godlike

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

That was a pen imo

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

now the replay makes me think i was wrong.

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

Your midfield didn't look completely useless earlier this season. Absolute crap today.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

crikey, surprised BAE hasn't broken any bones in his foot there

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

spurs should bring on a midfield

hard in da hummus (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

midfield needs space to work in, has done all year. vdv on right hurts, adebayor hurts, but teams have just sat in front of us since maybe xmas and it's not something we've really gotten to grips with- if they don't move to close us down, we don't tend to do anything but passit across in front of them, it's frustrating.

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

vdv playing behind adebayor with lennon/bale providing a bit of width to stretch things is the ideal, tbh, because he takes and scores shots from a good bit out.

classic tantrum from vdv, but ref's a jester there tbh

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

vdv's dissent there was great!

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

parker's nose in bits yeowch

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

chelsea's physio

hard in da hummus (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

you know

hard in da hummus (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

eva carneiro

hard in da hummus (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

yes

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

oh shi mata

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

saved by the woodwork.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

get back you iberian bollix

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

torres nailed on for 2 goals against leicester-level compy

hard in da hummus (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

off goes the 60 minute man

hard in da hummus (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

the dutch ozil

hard in da hummus (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

good chance

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

should have lobbed him there

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

cahill otm

hard in da hummus (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

has to score there

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

who's on the right now? [arker? modric? sandro?

jesus we don't have a single right winger in the youth setup, what is this nonsense

oh for fucks sake adbayor, for fucks sake

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

bar!!

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

he's not worth having this past two months, apart from newcastle

hope we don't sign him

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

is saha playing RM?

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

Cech had it covered

Number None, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

unmarked Bale should'e scored too.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

torres at RW again

hard in da hummus (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

Sturridge has been crap. Again.

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

he's not worth having this past two months

no one could have predicted it though

Number None, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

that's a pretty clear foul on saha, what's ref thinking there

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

bale out

hard in da hummus (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

apart from shooting, choices and positioning he's been ok

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

He looks great running like a gazelle up and down the pitch.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

heh
xp

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

the poor man's Valencia

Number None, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

freidel's done ok there

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

Stewart Downing with pace.

xpost

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

valencia doesn't have ideas above his station. just run down the wing and cross

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

Jeez, 2 mins to go, Drogba must've been tempted to lash that in.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

exactly xpost

Number None, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

downing's trygint obe a winger but is failing spectacularly, may be better inside

valencia is suited to being a winger, doesn't try to be anything else, profit

bale is suited to being a winger, seems to have an idea that he'd be better doing anything but, no profit

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

bale's first bit of wingplay? even if it came from kinda central?

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

why does modric take corners? he can't hit the ball that far.....

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

gnev RB bias

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

I like Nev's bias towards defenders when awarding MOTM

Number None, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

in 0-0 rubbish matches, it's fair tho

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

Kyle Walker getting man of the match is indicative of the quality of the match. Occasional burst of energy with no result.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

ref giving us a lot of 50/50 or less calls this past few mins tbh

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

Amazing that this team has a good chance of making the last 4 of the Champions Lge.

pandemic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

kinda cute effort tbh

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

I can't believe I looked forward to this game. I knew better.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

take that point, gap was more important today, now we can focus on third/second

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

Amazing that these teams have a good chance of making the last 4 of the Premier Lge.

― pandemic, Saturday, March 24, 2012 2:39 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fixed that for u

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

er, or 'top 4'

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

you'll be unhappy with that missed chance

Number None, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

thought sterling would make the bench but didn't think it'd be today. eccleston a sub too. no need for carra today.

Chris, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

no need for carra today.

Chris, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

He's right up there in the 'next manager' betting though - AVB, Mourinho, O'Neill and then Carra.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal 1-0

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

lol they'll really be thinking of third at this stage, poor lambs

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

hideous keeping from Given.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

Villa are so horrible to watch this year.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i can't understand it

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

They were poor last year and with the a couple of the better players gone it's understandable where they are in the table. However, they don't need to be hideous on the pitch just because the talent is down a bit.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

yeah you'd think with McLeish's thirst for flair football they'd

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

can't even bring myself to watch the wolves today btw

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't watch much of Birmingham City except for local derbys the last few years, but they didn't look as abject as this Villa team.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

mcleish could have 3 messis on the pitch and there'd be no discernible difference in ethos

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

the Birmingham squad was probably better constructed to play McLeishball than Villa

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

true. Instead we get three Heskys.

xpost

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

hesski

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

husky.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

surprise, surprise.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

Song is fantastic at those lofted passes into the box.

boxall, Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

should have been 3-0 there. RVP usually puts that in.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

feel like he's missing about one sitter per game right now tbf

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

penalty wigan

Chris, Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

I'm sure he'll get plenty more chances today. :(

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

Bolton fans will have wanted to see Bolton score, because of Muamba

themoreyouknow.jpg

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

wigan 1-0

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

Bolton score another for Muamba, the player for whom they will be wanting to win

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

Stephen Ireland is going to boss MLS next year.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

RVP denied by a great Warnock header.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

Matthew, a Blackburn supporter, texts: "If we get anything from this Bolton game it will feel hollow. Obviously I want us to win, but wouldn't be overly bothered if Bolton win because of the Muamba incident. "

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

puts things in perspective

Number None, Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

can we look at giving them +10 points or anything

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

The racist equalizes for Liverpool

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

callous Blackburn shamelessly peg brave Bolton back

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

that is fucking disgraceful

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

he's not done himself any favours there

Number None, Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

Nzonzi should be ashamed of himself. If Muamba doesn't make it, it's his fault now

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

callous Peter Reid utterly incapable of pronouncing 'Muamba' on biased BBC radio

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

he'll be embarrassed when the grieving family show up with replays of the boy's collapse and treatment at his house tonight brian

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool have a goal disallowed at Anfield and this won't do Luis Suarez's reputation any good. Skrtel wins a header at the far post and Suarez bundles it home before celebrating wildly. Referee Lee Mason appears to give the goal, but changes his mind with replays showing he pushed the ball in with his hand.

actions very much in character iirc

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

what changed ref's mind?

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

Handball off the post would've been more in character tbh. Rebound skied over by Adam.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

ha 2-1 wigan

Chris, Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

Getting a warm glow from feeling responsible for there being an actual scrap at the bottom this year. I just hope they don't all catch us up.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

Bolton chairman Phil Gartside says the club will find a role for Fabrice Muamba even if his playing days are over.

"He will be here as long as he wants to be," Gartside told BBC Radio Five Live.

"It is all about Fabrice. It is not a football story, it is a Muamba story."

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

he wants to be an accountant, so should be handy for when they go into administration

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

callous Everton bossing the Welsh Barca in bottom-of-the-top-half clash

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

lol suarez gets it
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/luis-suarez-liverpool-hand-ball-goal-disallowed-v-wigan/

hard in da hummus (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool have fallen so far since their draw with cardiff in the league cup final

hard in da hummus (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

Arteta f-k beauty, 3-0.

boxall, Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

Terry Connor turned down the board's offer of an assistant until the end of the season this week btw

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

lovely free kick from arteta

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

what a strike! That's enough sad English football for me today. Time for Milan-Roma.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool haven't finished outside the top 8 since they were promoted in 1962. With God and Kenny's help they might just rid themselves of that albatross

Number None, Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

This Liverpool-Wigan result appears to be getting reported as some kind of almighty shock.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

shocking. nice to see sterling and shelvey though.

Chris, Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

xp was gonna say!

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

just noticed your wording IK. shocking, but not a shock. or something.

Chris, Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

Is a couple (maybe) of cups enough for Kenny to keep this job Chris?

Number None, Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool's run-in isn't too bad but I'd not expect them to get a point from Newcastle next week rly

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool are a different proposition against good sides though, could easily beat Newcastle. They'd clean up in a European Super League, if such a thing existed and there were any reason to let them in.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

ilx needs a RAWK correspondent

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

xposts. yeah, cups have certainly helped. can't see fsg getting rid just yet.

Chris, Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

I'll admit I occasionally throw my eye over RAWK

Number None, Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

hes done

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

#0, pls share the spoils

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

theyll be trying to ease kk out already

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

Kenny moving upstairs at the end of the season and AVB moving in must be a fairly plausible scenario, but it's entirely up to FSG and they don't say much.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

Demetris Ioannides on Twitter: "Today is only about the third time this season that Liverpool haven't deserved to win. Big improvement on the Rafa years."

<3

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

yah comolli gets gone too, takes flak for signings

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

i occasionally post on rawk. i like it. not sure it's all that different to the typical fan forum of every other club tbh, goes into meltdown after defeat, fair share of rubbish. but some genuinely good posters who have really educated me.

anyway, excuse me while i go do my 'dalglish out' thing on rawk.

Chris, Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i was pretty harsh on comolli the other day. it's more him making out that he's the first ever football man to take an interest in a player's mentality, and stats etc that annoys me. he wanted cabaye apparently. kd preffered adam.

Chris, Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

preferred

Chris, Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

This is from last week

What a lot of whoppers don't seem to get into those tiny, Sky-infested brains of theirs, is the fact that we dominated all and sundry this season- everyone, except Spurs, Bolton and City away(which we won anyways)- 2 of those games we were not ready for- either physically(Spurs away) or tactically(Bolton- their midfield overran ours that evening). We matched those arseholes up in Salford and they shat themselves at ours!

Another thing- we have the 2nd-best defensive record in the league, extremely attacking stats- among the best 2/3; lots of draws, which were games we went in to win(we didn't go in there to control the game or not to lose- PROGRESS!), but for our one problem- GOALS. Prior to mid-Feb, we had 4 losses!(add 1/2 v. good more players and that problem goes away). We fekkin beat City away! Steam-rolled Chelsea away with a squad resembling our reserves!

That is the form of potential champions- even the blind can see that. It's as clear as a pole above water. Clear as day, which tells you something about them c*nts(Sorry, I won't hold back- it's time I speak up and let fly! Fuck this respect for others viewpoint- they have absolutely no regard for mine). If you were born blind, went deaf somewhere along this pitiful existence, had a bad case of tooth-decay, lost a leg, supported United and could reason for shit, you'd be able to put 2 and 2 together and would've come up with 4, but obviously that sort of intelligence is somewhat beyond some of us.

We dominated in Cup games, in league games, in away games, at home- and even with Lucas out, we maintained form. If we had scored one more goal in all those draws, we would've been in the hunt for the title. Yeah- the same whoppers will try to derail from the possibility by throwing in things such as "if my aunt had balls" etc.. not realizing- or rather refusing to realize/admit- that we're talking about possibilities, the future and how far we've come since Rafa's last season and Roy, here.

An attacking team with such a high amount of draws and who dominate all opposition - whether it be rivals involved in Europe or away games and who win trophies, are in the ascendancy.
This season, our form resembled that of Spurs last season. Not that their a benchmark- we can just look at our own, but I'm using them since they're not traditionally a top-4 placed team. Who did they add?

'Zaccerly! Ade-bye-bye!

I feel great about us under Kenny. The best thing that could've happened to us- and that I dreamt about during Hicks/Gillett(you can read my history) has happened to us: We've got responsible owners(I asked not for a sugar-daddy/oligarch type, but responsible, reasonably well-off, sober owners), we've got the man back at the helm who can deliver the title- and he's well on the way- we're playing high-tempo, passing, attacking football(perfect for the league), coupled with excellent pressing(perfect for Europe and our cup run shows we can go far when we get back in)- that's vintage Kenny, we've got consensus at all layers, we're debt-free etc..

We just need a player in the mold of Yossi/Luis G and/or a striker and we'll be either in pole position or hot on their heels. If we had one of those this season, we'd be right in the thick of challenging for the League. Imagine- being a player or 2 away from bloody City!

Another positive, we seem to have totally turned the tables when it comes to managing injuries and injury-prone players. Our squad is healthy and heals fast- perfect for the grueling length of the league. It's March and we are able to compete in Cups and still win mid-week and again on Saturday/Sunday.

And for all the shit that our players had to endure- they still helped us dominate games: Adam, Henderson, Downing- guys who don't really need to score a lot. The only reason we are fuming, is because we didn't win, and then we turn on these poor bastards! They've done sterling! Carrol is not the immediate success we thought, but hey- you can't win 'em all! Sometimes things don't work out and maybe we need to grow up and realise that. There is no Easter Bunny, there was no Golden Age, no Alice In Wonderland, men cheat- but who do you think they do it with? Dogs? The boy from Andromeda? The jovial hermit in the kinky suite? No- with other WOMEN(who themselves are cheaters then!); and yes Dorothy, we're not in Kansas anymore!

Nah- Fukk 'em! They're whoppers and some are WUMs! I suspect some of these may be blue, the rest may just be addicted to pain or have a fearful nature or something- I dunno and I don't care.
The Future's Bright. The Future's Red. It's not Shite and neither is it Sad!

I've had it with these trolls, I'm going to fuckup something or someone, now!

Number None, Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

as i say, great site.

Chris, Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

similar to most of my spurs posts tbf

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

the fast paced world of ILF doesn't really allow for that kind of sustained rant. Pity really

Number None, Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

back in the jol days it was all such a gentler pace, good times

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

the Beeb football site has fucked up again and the text is appearing in what I think is Times New Roman lol

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

kenny goes before comolli

toandos, Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

wolves have conceded 35 at home this season, impressive stuff.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

although it hurts our title chances, i really want citeh to hammer stoke today. i'm a football fan 1st and 4most

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

tasty tackle from yaya

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

dzeko misses good headed chance

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

Stoke have nothing to fear here

Number None, Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

eh

i think, to be fair, that stoke and every other team or gathering or any group at all, really, will of course be conscious and indeed fearful of the chances of another fine young man ending up like brave fabrice muamba did on a field not unlike this one, in front of a crowd very much like any crowd you or i might once have been part of, on a day such as this

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

fair point

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

well let's all be mindful is what i'm saying

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:16 (thirteen years ago)

KK blaming the busy schedule for losing to one of the worst clubs in the league.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno bout that, chelsea managed to scrape a point off us today despite still being in europe

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea weren't up against the might of Wigan's former Celts.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

holy shit, espn's marketing for the wolves-stoke game is, essentially, 'lol wolves are fucked aren't they?'

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

hard to see how else you could pitch it. did the trailer have comedy slide whistles and horn honks?

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

i was puttin a fire on tbh, i only heard it

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

oh wait all of those things are sounds

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

not that i heard, then

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

or was it set to the "Dance of the Cuckoos"?

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

standard sweeping strings and beats i'm afraid

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

jesus christ

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

jesus christ i mean jesus christ

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

peter crouch has jesus christ

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

thats the goal of the season

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

CROUCH!

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

the uncontested goal of the season

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

that is absolutely incredible

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

How can this be?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

brother wants to know where he pulled that out of

"cunt saved it up the whole three years he was at us" sez i

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

I missed it, what'd he do?

Just this morning saw Coates' for Liverpool midweek, that was pretty excellent, don't remember hearing much about it.

boxall, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

he took it on his knee and hit it into the goal, it was from quite far away and quite an acute angle, idk i reckon check it out and post when you get a chance. mainly it was peter crouch, like, that has to be taken into a/c

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not watching and had assumed it was a joke at first, but it's being reported as like Coates, but from further out and with more skill and at the end of a more difficult move.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

toure with a 40 yarder that keeper might have stopped

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

nothing like coates tbh

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

toure's took a deflection off shax tbf

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuqR4j16p9E

toandos, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

One more please

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

oh oops boxall that's crouch's

toandos, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

crouch's was a little like that van basten goal, not as acute an angle but further out and peter crouch

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck. Did Shawcross just nod that past his keeper?

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

haha wow

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

lovely, thx for the youtube

boxall, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

For real?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

Torres scored one like that against Blackburn once, I thought it was good iirc, opinion here was it was shit. Several levels below MVB tbf.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

i remember the torres blackburn goal it was a beaut strike, not on the volley which imo made it a very impressive hit technically, but i mean torres was no crouch those days. now, i dunno maybe he aspires to crouch

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

those are the saddest words

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

feeling the "geek online dating" ad that comes up on the YT of the Crouch goal

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

we live in the saddest of all possible times for gifted lethargios

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

nice shawx header ruled out for ball having gone out from corner

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

capitalise ffs

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

no

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

Five fucking minutes! This is torture.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

Twenty fucking years!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)

capitalise ffs

― Ismael Klata, Saturday, March 24, 2012 7:19 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no

― less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, March 24, 2012 7:21 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^would post to Footcelsior

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)

What a waste of a corner ffs

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

That'll do

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

http://images.4chan.org/sp/src/1332615157856.gif

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

needs to be seen from the camera behind the goal tbh

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

thats the goal of the season

― less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, March 24, 2012 6:50 PM (44 minutes ago)

lol

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

i got carried away

it is certainly the peter crouch goal of the season

i mean fuck it, you have to take this shit into account

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

Time to modreq a title change to 'Roberto Mancini' yet?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

the kraatxi goal is the sort of thing most epl players could score given enough chances, i mean there was a better drop-kick kinda goal in league one last week

monkeys and typewriters p much

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

next year is his year

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

kinda feel that a lot of british ppl cant tell the difference between that and the rly rarified skill levels required to score the sort of goals rvp scores, like taking his eyes of the flight of a 30 yard chip to suss the goalkeeper then hitting it first time at the nearpost

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:58 (thirteen years ago)

bales volley at stoke last season was better too

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

rvp crouch dammit man

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

if a monkey actually wrote a decent play you'd be impressed, like

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

its more like a monkey managing to type 'cunt'

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

like if u left the room and ten minutes later there was just C U N T on an otherwise pristine page and a simpering idiot monkey sitting there with a bottle of champagne from geoff shreeves

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

the kraatxi goal is the sort of thing most epl players could score given enough chances

you could say this about the vast majority of great goals, football being what it is they don't tend to be the result of some rarified physical power

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

the next 20 of those Crouch tries will probably go out for a throw but if we can't enjoy what we have then

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

that is a horribly formed sentence btw, apologies

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

It was a good goal, I'm calling it.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

that is the difference between the sort of goals u see on motd goal of the month which are mostly just long shots etc, and something like the messi goal last week when he nutmegs spahic while the defender is running, or the ronaldinho toepunt vs chelsea

the average player would p much never think of trying to score in that way

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

Gotta say that how the hell it occurred to Crouch to try was the question uppermost in my thoughts tbh. I mean it's not like there's much in the way of precedent.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

hes scored some p difficult volleys before, it is kinda a thing he can do, even technically inept players have areas of aptitude eg walcott can finish well from acute angles sometimes

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

yeah I can't imagine there were legions of Stoke fans screaming HIT IT when he brought it down on his knee

awkward volleys is prolly his best skill agreed

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.boreme.com/media/yr2006/multi-talent-crouch-22.jpg

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

Crouch goal was a great goal fuck a monkey typewriter challop.

I prefer a well crafted team goal myself but huge volleys from miles out by players facing away from goals are worthy of praise.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

It needed slapstick but otherwise a fitting way for City to lose a title imo

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

why's david platt talkin shite instead of mancini

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

motd discussion starts here

definite peno for hoilett

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

I chuckled to note Chelsea-Spurs at the foot of the running order

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not watching MOTD, but re: why's david platt talkin shite instead of mancini I think they said on ESPN post-match something along the lines of Mancini has refused to do an interview because he's so angry he'll get himself into trouble (with the FA). I don't know what perceived injustice it was that he was angry about.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

Petrov putting in some amazing crosses.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

what perceived injustice it was that he was angry about

trying to avoid subbing on tevez so as to not appear desperate then having to do so because he was desperate

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

they are for muamba

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

lol at Robinson coming short to Hoilett after the corner there. That would've been the biggest abdication of duty ever

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

Sly dig at a manager petulantly refusing a post-match interview, I like it

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

im assuming one of these cunts was drafted in at late notice to replace the liverpool tards who cant bear putting the shiv into dalglish

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

these cunts

Harsh on Dixon?

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

(PS - I am now watching MOTD on iplayer)

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

dixon is probably a cunt in he english sense but i was using it in the scottish sense

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

can't remember anything partic harsh on city tbh

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

eh whitehead's elbow maybe

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

Džeko's not going to be at City next season surely

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

gots surely from crouch

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck, it did really happen

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

citeh buy all the reasonably skilled bigs then pay them so much that spurs can't even fathom taking them on once discarded

tho tbf loaning us adebayor would seem to negate the point

holding out hope for huntelaar

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

yah i just hate crouch

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

oh i'm with ya there like

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

dzeko probably too slow to rly thrive in the epl

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

dzeko throve for a while there, were he to stay in england he'd definitely keep a bolton or a stoke in goals

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:49 (thirteen years ago)

gots surely from crouch
― less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, March 24, 2012 10:45 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is it fuck. RvP volleys x2

hard in da hummus (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't realise it was still in City's hands, in theory

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

Shearer just said so too, cozen. Can't argue with that duopoly.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

barry lucky not to see red for that on whelan's ankle

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

BANTUH

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

remind me of both rvp's volleys? not the one against lfc surely?

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

yah

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

jesus skrtl wtf man

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

everton/LFC

hard in da hummus (cozen), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

everton yeah
lfc no imo

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

The Everton one is miles clear this season. Nasri's in midweek in second.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

nah, kun's first touch goal was better, modric against lfc too imo

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

Oh yeah, the modric one was nice

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

Never a handball

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

exquisite control and finish from Heid

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

What the hell has happened to the defence? Carroll last man there ffs.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

Caldwell furthest forward vs Carroll furthest back was a bit o_O

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

Caldwell actually being the Scottish Gerard Pique for a moment even more so

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

papa cisse's two have been nice, and ashley young's scored a few peaches too iirc

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

"They entered three cup competitions this season, Liverpool: the league, the carling cup and..."

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:02 (thirteen years ago)

"and I think it did hit his hand"

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

Huh? Did Shearer say that? I'd listen to him if I knew I'd hear gems like that.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

ach given

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

(xp) Shearer was the one who thinks the league is a cup competition. Can't remember which pundit was eagle-eyed enough to notice the contact of Suarez's hand with the ball (when he blatantly punched it in).

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

walcott might make a striker someday y'know

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

Nice little finish from Theo

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

"The last time two English players scored for Arsenal was 1997" - wtf?

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

fine control & finish - young Theo making a push for the plane

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

Has Arteta taken citizenship yet? Because today might be a record that'll never be beaten.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

as i've just posted to the comedy poll thread

oooh arteta

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger's being a lot more humble than I'd be with that 'favourites for third' question. I think I'd keep a big file of press cuttings from September that I'd produce and disdainfully flick through at times like that.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

uhhhhhh

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

i mean, no? he doesn't want to say something now he'll regret in may

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

ah cisse wtf

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I guess he'd look pretty stupid if City do go and collapse xp

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:18 (thirteen years ago)

taiwo

should spurs be looking at him as bae challenge?

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno if that's meant to be funny IK or

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno - I guess I actually still am expecting Arsenal to go to pieces, so maybe it's more he should get his gloating in now.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:22 (thirteen years ago)

taiwo is way better than qpr

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:24 (thirteen years ago)

sweet from holt

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:27 (thirteen years ago)

ref done well imo

still always a cunt for what he did to pedro obv

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:28 (thirteen years ago)

hmm hard to say why hotl or johnson were booked to begin with but no arguing the second yellow for holt

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:30 (thirteen years ago)

"The last time two English players scored for Arsenal was 1997" - wtf?

― Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:07 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This doesn't seem right but 1998 would be the last real year we had any true English attacking threat. After that we just had Parlour and English defenders/ Wenger shipped out everyone else. So unless Wilshere and Walcott got on the same scoresheet last season... yeah this could be right. Wenger for England.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:34 (thirteen years ago)

Anyone who's seriously pondering Taiwo should go down to Loftus Road and see him play. He can't defend. Not in the sense of: he's a left back who's best attacking, but in the sense of: how the fuck did this fat bloke ever get to be a left-back when he can't tackle and has no positional sense? Still, nice free kick.

From elation on Wednesday to misery today. This Rangers team is a fucking disgrace, because they should be so much better than they're showing on the pitch. Clearly a lot of that has to do with with coaching: Hughes's system just looks berserk - narrow midfield diamond against teams with wingers. As my daughter would say: like, duh. Even Wednesday's win was down to Liverpool imploding, not anything particularly good from QPR.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:36 (thirteen years ago)

how the fuck did this fat bloke ever get to be a left-back when he can't tackle and has no positional sense? Still, nice free kick.

gareth bale, 2 years ago. just sayin'

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

PS I got thoroughly pissed off with Mark Bowen trying to rouse the West Paddock at LR to make some noise when we were 2-0 down on Wednesday night. Listen, pal, we pay over the odds to watch these arseholes; we've been cheering all season and it's made no fucking difference whatsoever. You're getting paid for coaching them into playing this badly. You fucking gee them up, eh?

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

xpost Yeah, but Bale is fast. Taiwo isn't. Honestly, Taiwo is not very good.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

taiwo was fast

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:40 (thirteen years ago)

Was trying to find out who Jeffers' goal was against, just in case Ashley Cole or someone scored that day too. I couldn't find it, but I did discover he'd been Shawcrossed too, after he'd gone to Wednesday.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:41 (thirteen years ago)

lol i forgot jeffers. that was a fun time.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:42 (thirteen years ago)

lol Chelsea-Spurs is action-packed

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

we looked good in those highlights, but sadly no

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

Oh right yeah I saw Che-Spurs at the pub and forgot about it happening until now. DULL DI DULL DULL DULL, DULL.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

how do u rate arsenals season so far

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:51 (thirteen years ago)

i am in the mood to answer that with something long winded, so do you still want me to answer yr question

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:52 (thirteen years ago)

ya fuckit

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:53 (thirteen years ago)

feel free, always

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:54 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/56s6t.jpg

tt;fuiud

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

"The last time two English players scored for Arsenal was 1997" - wtf?

English FA Cup Sat 16 Feb 2002

Arsenal 5 - 2 Gillingham

HT 1 - 0 FT 5 - 2

Sylvain Wiltord (38, 81)Nwankwo Kanu (50)Tony Adams (67)Ray Parlour (88)

Marlon King (47)Ty Gooden (54)

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Sunday, 25 March 2012 00:23 (thirteen years ago)

personally, i feel it has been inept.

firstly, there is 1 massive elephant in the quiet stadium. if we had wilshere at any point this season, you have to presume we'd be in a lot better shape. not only because he improves our team, but it means our midfield 3 would have someone to swap with when they are fatigued, we would have been less likely to play 1 more rookie in the 8-2, would have started the season with some stability etc. He may be a cunt but he is an increbile footballer at a club where such things are in short supply.

theo has been shit. arshavin has been worse. gervinho has had a shocking season. chamakh, park, what is the fucking point? if rvp had a typical season (i.e. injury) - we'd be in the bottom half of the table. we have had to rely on a guy who regularly doesn't play for 6 months at a time. our frontline is a mess, held together with sellotape.

until sagna and vermaelan came back, our defence was even worse. selling eboue and clichy and replacing them with jenkinson and gibbs was negligant behaviour. santos, for the 4 games he was alive, was a lw played out of position. sq is still at the club and djourou is still played regularly.

tbf i like our middle. song (/frimpong), arteta (/ wilshere?) ramsey (/ rosicky) is the third best midfield in the country behind city and spurs.

we have sucked though. 8-2. whatever the blackburn result was, i can't remember. the first milan game. sure, the embarrassing loses stick out but it is just as much the loss of style and charisma. we may be on a winning run now but there isn't anything memorable happening in these games. theo will make a couple nice runs. rvi has a nice touch. woo, fucking, hoo. where has the inventive passing gone?

we shouldn't be 3rd. chelsea are a team many of us said should be top at the start of the season, they shouldn't be 5th. spurs are better than us. newcastle could even be pushing us.

i feel wenger should be treated like kkingkenny and be moved 'up' and more importantly 'away' at the end of the season. i dont even know what he adds anymore. but at least pat rice will be replaced this summer and our new '#2 could hopefully be someone more inventive, willing to actually work on our issues. someone hopefully willing to push wenger instead of some shitty total football sychophant.

my head is already with next season. wilshere will be back. podolski and vertonghen are upgrades, miyiachi bartley and aoc should hopefully push out deadwood. the current streak should build up their confidence for an opposite effect to the end of last season. this win run really came way too late for me to give a fuck though for this season.

i think of 3rd as an act of other teams incompetence, not as something we earned.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 25 March 2012 00:29 (thirteen years ago)

omino - i think he said in the league. if not it would be different, we have been p englishy for a while in the carling cup and i presume the likes of randall, wilshere, simpson, walcott, gibbs as a winger etc. scored together.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 25 March 2012 00:30 (thirteen years ago)

theo has been shit. arshavin has been worse. gervinho has had a shocking season. chamakh, park, what is the fucking point? if rvp had a typical season (i.e. injury) - we'd be in the bottom half of the table. we have had to rely on a guy who regularly doesn't play for 6 months at a time. our frontline is a mess, held together with sellotape.

if i had said this

actually, when i say this......

my head is already with next season. wilshere will be back. podolski and vertonghen are upgrades, miyiachi bartley and aoc should hopefully push out deadwood. the current streak should build up their confidence for an opposite effect to the end of last season. this win run really came way too late for me to give a fuck though for this season.

ah cmon now you were doing so well....

i think of 3rd as an act of other teams incompetence, not as something we earned.

yeah, can dig this, relate especially to this feeling when we finished 5th under jol the year of the lasagne- it was a year of serious underachievement for arsenal and we shoulda been outta sight weeks before. you have to revise what defines a good season in relation to the opportunities that arise, call it league inflation or something.

less of the same (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 March 2012 00:37 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/mar/24/arrest-arsenal-game

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 25 March 2012 01:01 (thirteen years ago)

does it say was it in the crowd or is it rvp

less of the same (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 March 2012 01:06 (thirteen years ago)

it is the guy from the newcastle game a fortnight ago, actually been arrested.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 25 March 2012 01:47 (thirteen years ago)

Missed the madness but his was great. nakhchivan shut up.

jesus christ

― less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:50 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jesus christ i mean jesus christ

― less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:50 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

peter crouch has jesus christ

― less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:50 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thats the goal of the season

― less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:50 (Yesterday) Bookmark

Number None, Sunday, 25 March 2012 05:23 (thirteen years ago)

Even RAWK has to tone it down a this point but this tickled me

My son was physically sick when I told him the result today.

This is no exaggeration he actually vomited. He feels ill at the thought of losing to Wigan.

Number None, Sunday, 25 March 2012 05:53 (thirteen years ago)

You fear for this kid

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 25 March 2012 07:42 (thirteen years ago)

turns out he's got dengue fever

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 25 March 2012 08:22 (thirteen years ago)

xpost If Taiwo is fast then I wish he would run quickly. He has nothing like Bale's pace. If he were any good Milan wouldn't be loaning him out, and he'd be able to get to a better club than QPR. He's not some Baleseque kid, he's on the brink of turning 27. If he had the ability, he'd actually be good by now.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 25 March 2012 08:43 (thirteen years ago)

Pretty sure they said first time 3 English players had scored for Arsenal in a season, not 2 - Walcott, AOC & Gibbs.

boxall, Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

Oh maybe you all meant in the same match, w/e

boxall, Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

i was asking after taiwo as cover at lb tbh, not as cover for bale at wherever the fuck he thinks he's playing these days

less of the same (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

PPS rvi has a nice touch. woo, fucking, hoo.

FP'd you for this! You don't deserve such an amazing player/season if that's how you treat him. What was it you said in the fall, Van Persie's not as influential as Song or Vermaelen b/c 'this team can score from anywhere, even full-back now Santos is arrived' or similar? shameful.

boxall, Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

i think it's a conceit attempting to dispel the (completely true) assertion that arsenal rely more heavily on rvp than any other team in the top ?6? relies on one single player

less of the same (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

I would amend that to any other team in the top 6 leagues.

boxall, Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

oof

less of the same (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder how Perch will do in the champions league.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

you'd assume they'd strengthen were it to be so

less of the same (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

oof was for ben arfa but would transfer just as easily to boxall's takedown

less of the same (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

Y'all not bored of regurgitating that one yet? True or not, and next season if he leaves blah blah whatever, Arsenal are gonna finish top four AGAIN this season.

Plus saying it the day after a game they won 3-0 in which rvp didn't score looks both hollow and a bit whiny.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

Where would ilf be without hollow & whiny?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

no that's true, we were only responding to sam's attempted sidelining of it as a thing

less of the same (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

3-0 sure, but it's Villa

RVP would've had an excellent goal too if he hadn't met his match in the brilliant defender Stephen Warnock.

boxall, Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

I only saw the second half of the Chelsea Spurs game but what I saw was quite exciting, admittedly because Spurs looked the better team and more likely to win. Mata free kick aside, Chelsea looked very poor.

I worry about what Redknapp's done with the front four or five though - there were countless times when Adebayor was attacking from the left because Bale was elsewhere, VDV doesn't work on the right, Modric was at least better in the centre, but I don't think it's any coincidence that we've stopped winning since we stopped playing our attacking players, y'know, in position. But overjoyed with a draw, hopefully that's the end of the tough patch, everything from now on should be winnable.

Gonna watch the Crouch goal now...

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

how the fucks that not red

less of the same (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

Also does every team collapse in form after a Carling Cup win? Spurs, Birmingham, Liverpool. I suppose Chelsea and United have done alright in their seasons.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

matt, the first half was awwwwful

less of the same (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

Timed it well then...

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

PPS rvi has a nice touch. woo, fucking, hoo.

FP'd you for this! You don't deserve such an amazing player/season if that's how you treat him. What was it you said in the fall, Van Persie's not as influential as Song or Vermaelen b/c 'this team can score from anywhere, even full-back now Santos is arrived' or similar? shameful.

― boxall, Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:06 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh come on now. taken out of context that looks bad but the context, dammit! the context of "relying on 1 player for any styled attacking threat is shocking for a club like arsenal". the context is week after week feeling dismayed whenever our other forwards or playmakers get on the ball.

it is not a distant memory watching a stylish and exciting arsenal team - it was only last season we had the possibly the best playmaker in europe! that passage was quite obviously about the disappointment of a season based around us not being anywhere close to the standards we held ourselves too just a year ago. Oh but we have 1 great attacking player instead of the 4 we had last time. No wonder he's not signing a new contract.

[i still don't agree with the one man team thing but if you were to change that to 'one man attack' i'd have no issue.]

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

Admittedly the midfield is more workmanlike than it's been in a long time - tho Song is v underrated as a passer (overrated as a dmid) and if Rosicky & Benayoun were rotated more w/ Ramsey they might all have found better form.

Admittedly Gervinho and usually Walcott are dispiriting to watch.

boxall, Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

lol rosicky has played quite a bit this season and has been awful up until about 2 months ago.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 25 March 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

only 12 league starts, that's 10 fewer than Ramsey who began to look tired quite early, you'd think Wenger would've learned his lesson w/ Wilshere's never ending succession of stress reactions.

boxall, Sunday, 25 March 2012 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

The first time Arsenal had had two English goalscorers in the league since October 1997, when Platt, Parlour and Wright registered in a 5-0 win against Barnsley.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 25 March 2012 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

Platt! Totally forgot he played for Arsenal.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 25 March 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

Lovely second from Newcastle. Counterattacking goals should count double.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 25 March 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

Has the Shearer's Island given in to erosion?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 25 March 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

It has, it's gone. He's got a kind of five o'clock shadow there and that's it.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 25 March 2012 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

getting a bit ridiculous on MOTD2 about the Crouch goal

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Sunday, 25 March 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

The lurker block vote for the Saudi guy really ruined that top ten keepers thing

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 25 March 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

it is funny how Dalglish's name is in the title of this thread

I agree with DC that 0-0 at Chelsea is a good result for almost anyone and is thus effectively, objectively, the end of a bad run of results.

the pinefox, Monday, 26 March 2012 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

that's true to a point (literally) but 9 pts from 24 isn't much better than 8 pts from 21 looking at it objectively.

It'll be judged in hindsight depending on whether we pull out of it (justifiable run down to fixture list vagaries) or continue to struggle (bottled it again down to players, redknapp, rotation)

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

i feel wenger should be treated like kkingkenny and be moved 'up' and more importantly 'away' at the end of the season. i dont even know what he adds anymore.

I don't think there are many managers who would have been able to pull that group of Arsenal players out of a start as abysmal as the one they had this season, certainly not enough to get them third and winning more or less by routine. There's a real "careful what you wish for" thing going on here.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 26 March 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

I just mildly praised Arsene Wenger. God.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 26 March 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

his players

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger is worthy of praise. Criticise away for the shambles they were left in in September, but the turnaround since has been astonishing. That I suspect the team still isn't much good is cause for even more personal acclaim tbh.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

Lop out the first seven games and they'd be level on points at the top.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

who can we talk to about doing that?

Upt0eleven, Monday, 26 March 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

actually, after 15 seconds additional thought, i'd rather not.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 26 March 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

I'd now be putting that down to the consequence of some internal power struggle which Wenger eventually won, except that you weren't so far from a similar shambles in February imo.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

take away the last 7 games they'd be languishing wherever.

Credit to wenger he's built arsenal from a team of undefeated champions to a group of players that only perform when the pressure's definitely off, nothing different here than any other year since 2004 imo, unless anyone thinks that, even if they continue this run to season's end, they will go through to the end of next season without an enormous lolworthy collapse landing them in....well, 4th or 5th or 3rd.

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

i stan for wenger and arsenal and their economic and aesthetic approach but let's not pretend anything has changed here like

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal could've been this year's this year's Liverpool, if you want a comparator.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

xpost

absolutely, I don't think anyone actually IS pretending that. the only difference is that the end of Spurs' run has coincided with the beginning of Arsenal's and you weren't far enough clear to avoid being overtaken and (apparently) consumed by bitterness at the unfairness of it all. sorry about that btw.

of course it's only the last seven games that have made the season so there's obviously a much wider range of factors involved. does it make wenger a genius of any kind? will enough have changed by the start of next season to allow us to contend in any competition? fuck knows. still, i'm gonna enjoy this for what it is at the moment. it's not just the players that enjoy the pressure being off and i'd much rather be sitting 3 points clear of spurs in 3rd than level on points with united, clinging foolishly to the possibility of winning the league whilst knowing with absolutely certainty that it won't happen.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 26 March 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

no, look, fair play, the respective fortunes of the clubs have been a severe contrast since 0-2 at the emirates and this isn't about that, and charging the way you've done out of a seriously challenging time is impressive, but you'll do it again next year, maybe swapping late resurgence for late collapse after flying into contention (like us), and that it's not a pattern that wenger hasn't looked awfully bothered about answering at times over the past several years

btw, we're going to finish third.

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

and you can sit level with utd and enjoy it without harbouring hopes of a title challenge! We did it this year!

I am v much enjoying the feeling that we can contend with arsenal now and in the next few years, this isn't a bitterness thing- it's just 'meh' about this run of results disproving anything about current arsenal when imo it reinforces everything we already knew - have talent, no depth, brittle like a dime bar

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

but srsly dalglish out hodgson in this 'performances are better and club is united' shit just can't wash any longer

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

the amount you've spent talking about arsenal these past couple days (if not longer).... doesn't sound like "meh" to me.

and you can sit level with utd and enjoy it without harbouring hopes of a title challenge! We did it this year!

no, you can't. that glimmer of possibility burns you up and makes you fucking miserable.

see you at the finish!

Upt0eleven, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

meant to add "pip pip" to the end of that.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

i think ppl eulogising 'meh' is the no.1 cardiac threat in sport, ilx, lyfe

Tally ho

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

and arsenal are interesting!

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

The way we've come to speak of Utd, it is the death of football, hope, everything.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

just me or after suarez bundled it in with his hand, did he celebrate by running very fast and KISSING HIS HAND??

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

ferguson is sauron, arsenal saruman, arry's bilbo, mancini is elrond and gareth bale is gareth bale

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

Can we just nip this dreadful line of conversation in the bud immediately please?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

I just want rid of ferguson now, I don't care how. He can retire unvanquished and king of the EPL forever and I'll be happy. This is no life. Thank fuck for Barcelona.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

xposts. he kisses the tattoo of his daughter's name on his wrist

Chris, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

Strikes me that whatever Ferguson does to United players to get them to collectively not choke, even when the limitations of the squad are screamingly obvious, is something Redknapp, Mancini, everyone really should get up on. I can't think of anything to explain it beyond "in league with the devil".

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

homosexual satan wasp

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

ah Chris OK!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

lol kind of wish he had actually kissed his hand in a 'haha, suckers' kinda way

Chris, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

It took me a few mins to work out what you were talking about Chris - I thought it was some Tolkien detail applied to Ferguson.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

presumably he went with the wrist as tattoo location to maximize trolling factor of future handball goal celebrations

boxall, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think there are many managers who would have been able to pull that group of Arsenal players out of a start as abysmal as the one they had this season, certainly not enough to get them third and winning more or less by routine. There's a real "careful what you wish for" thing going on here.

i dunno about that - if you look at the recent winning run are their wins really "routine"? If you take out robin van persie and plonk him into another team say swansea could they be doing equally well/better now?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

'yellow card is a bit harsh'

as giggs tries to separate dembele from his ankles

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, Le Tiss laughed at him in fairness

Number None, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

good from fulham but utd look brutally efficient in possession- rooney looks good

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

Wha?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

ya i said it

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

look when dude plays well i'll own it

just hasn't happened but once in 4 years

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

One of these has got to go in and make it safe sooner or later?

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 26 March 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

Are you even slightly anxious?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

cert peno u crook

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

why does jol even travel to OT

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

yep. Penalty.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 26 March 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

shoulda been a yellow card for Scholes on that stamp of Dempsey as well.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 26 March 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

that was a penalty, no doubt

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 26 March 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

even my dad the man utd fan says it was. And he never ever admits these things.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 26 March 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

Robbie Savage getting v exercised about something on radio, didn't hear what it was

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

Ah never mind, you're on it. Suppose Utd deserve a break one of these title races.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

It's barely even a talking point, they're saying it was so obvious.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

Looked a pen to me, reckon the ref bottled it. I know you're all going to say "it evens out over the course of the season, this makes up for that joke of a penalty Newcastle got at Old Trafford", but Fulham won't see it that way.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

lol

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

You were owed one for the West Ham guy not getting a straight red for that penalty last season

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

It was a pen, but Murphy didn't need to go down and he looked like he was even before the contact was made. Fulham didn't really deserve anything from the game anyway.

Number None, Monday, 26 March 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

nah

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

just nah

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

gnev u trollin cunt lol

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

Just seen GNev's picks for best 'ever' Prem volleys (inspired by the Crouch miracle) - whatever happened to Danny Rose?

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

he's a left back now ;_;

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

gnev giving the harsh truths re crouch

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

BAS DOST SLAMS VILLA

"That I knew. I know the club is not very good, but the interest is great.

Number None, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

We're already overdue a dedicated Bas Dost thread I think. This guy is my idol.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 10:50 (thirteen years ago)

getting a clear post-newcastle summer transfer strategy vibe from villa now

r|t|c, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 10:53 (thirteen years ago)

vainglorious bast dos

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

qui est Bast Dost? I like his statement.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

On 10 December 2011, Dost scored all five goals in Heerenveen's 5-0 win away to Excelsior. << Footballer destined to become ILF cult heroes.

Stevie T, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

He's 22, top scorer in the Eredivisie, plays for Heerenveen

Number None, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

I enjoyed this interview with Mata. I didn't know he was studying for a degree, good on him.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

Interesting that he singles out McEachran

Number None, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

Outside of football, I like Murakami’s books, they have a slightly strange atmosphere, but they draw you in. I’ve also read Paul Auster and Jorge Luis Borges and I liked them.

Phrases You're Unlikely to Hear an English Centre Back Use.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

likes Coldplay though

Number None, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

someone should buy him a can of london grill judging by the photo they've used to illustrate his nan's fabada

r|t|c, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

As for the dressing room, it surprised me how close Terry is, on a day to day basis he’s aware of everything, and dedicated special attention to us new arrivals.

heh heh zzz

r|t|c, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder if he even gets a ribbing in the dressing room for e.g. liking Borges? The would-be banterer is defeated before he starts here, I feel.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

i doubt it's come up

Number None, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

more like garden of facking poofs, amirite.

Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

one for the cover

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

JT "For fucks sake Juan, I like literary fiction as much as the next guy but dropping IQ84 on your foot and missing the rest of season has fucked us up good and proper."

pandemic, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

I like to imagine a game of subtle one-upmanship at Cobham; Lampard ostentatiously reading Garcia Marquez in one corner, and Terry in the other slyly revealing an original Neruda collection in his coat pocket. While Cashley takes shots at the work experience kid.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

"Which wan ov yoo cants spilled shower gel on my Saramago?"

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

work experience kid had the temerity to be reading robert ludlum.

Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

ludlum would've been fine it was one of the new 'bourne' ludlum's not actually by ludlum, Ash has standards.

pandemic, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

IK RACIAL PROFILING

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

Anyone remember Gaizka Mendieta and his love of the Stooges and the Velvet Underground?

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

my account's been hacked is what's happened here

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/2010/03/29/10-footballers-and-their-favourite-novels-revealed/

Number None, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

lol 7 kids books out of 10

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

COOL!

pandemic, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

quick poll, fellas: would you equate championships in the old First Division to Premiership championships? like, would you say Aston Villa are "7 time Premier League champions?"

I'm trying to school some uppity Americans on this

dan m, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

well, no. You would say they've won seven league titles

Number None, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

you wouldn't say they are 7 time premier league champions, but they are kind of equivalent.

people on tv might say "champions in the top division 7 times?"

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

7 time league champions. it is just a diff. name for the same thing, which is the league/top division

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

A hoy hoy otm, 'kind of' equivalent my arse.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

when utd knocked liverpool off teh perch, they were 19 time league champs last summer. no-one said 10 time premiership champions, 9 time first division champions or whatever it is.

might be different somewhere like germany, where i'm not sure how they talk about pre-bundesliga football. (their modern format started in the 60s).

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

Though having said that, I could be persuaded that EPL titles are the ones that don't count.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I have slight problems with Italy, where the first champs were from a four-team invitation-only round-robin iirc. But that'd deprive us of some really cool winners, so national champs in whatever guise I say.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

yeah "league champions" is what I was trying to say, but most of you would equate 1st Div w/ EPL as far as prestige etc? I kind of assumed there was a difference

dan m, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

No, exactly the same. It was the same clubs & same format, the name doesn't matter.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

thx

dan m, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

tell you what though, Liverpool would love to get their hands on the PL trophy. Even just the once.

Number None, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

snap

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

i bet they'd give up at least one European Cup

Number None, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

lol

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

Alright guys chillax! i only said "kind of" because you wouldn't say liverpool won Premier League 18 times. because they have won it 0 times.

would "league champions" be misleading because then you could also count league 2 champions for example?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

oh xposts

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

i mean like, you would count carling cup/worthington cup/coca cola cup etc to be the same thing but then you would only be "kind of" correct to count them all under "league cup"?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

Sorry ken, not taking a pop. All those cups are definitely the same thing too i.e. very, very prestigious.

(am I being unusually aggressive without realising it today? I got into a row with a guy on the train home, which is also unusual)

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

no worries man! i am just being more defensive than usual today i think.

shit guys!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17521225
shearer to be england manager then

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

iirc last season neil warnock (and some of the qpr fanbase still feeling robbed by liverpool in 76) attached special sentiment to the fact that the team were lifting the original football league division one trophy, glowing as it did with real proper history

r|t|c, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

Oh yeah, I can feel that. If the EPL had the slightest bit of class they'd've made sure that trophy still went to their champions.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

There isn't even *an* EPL trophy, just replicas in case of last-day drama, motd wanting a centrepiece for their set, etc.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

i mean like, you would count carling cup/worthington cup/coca cola cup etc to be the same thing but then you would only be "kind of" correct to count them all under "league cup"?

― Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:12 (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wait what

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

from F365 interview with Rory Smith. Guess Mata really is one of the nicer premier league footballers

A few one word/namers now - nicest footballer you've ever interviewed?

Maybe I'm easily swayed, but footballers are mostly a lot nicer than you expect, particularly the foreign ones. Juan Mata is a really good lad, so are Alejandro Faurlin and Phil Neville and Milan Jovanovic was the most effusive. He seemed to enjoy the experience. He hugged me at the end. The South Americans at Liverpool are lovely - Maxi, Lucas and even Suarez - but the one I got on best with was probably Raul Meireles. You'd want to be mates with Raul Meireles.

Number None, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:17 (thirteen years ago)

i dont think i could regularly hang out with meireles's hair

he'd end up punching me after a 1000 shit jokes

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

and even Suarez

haha

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

easy for a guy called rory to say i guess

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

so there's more to the muamba tweet sentence than's being reported, right? seeing as the sentencing was for incitement to racial hatred.

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 23:54 (thirteen years ago)

don't think so. Like what?

Number None, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

like i dunno, something that could be categorised as incitement to racial hatred, i guess?

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:08 (thirteen years ago)

Implying Muamba has AIDS etc. could probably fall under that. I honestly don't know what else you think he could have been up to

Number None, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:12 (thirteen years ago)

ah, ysee that is definitely more than 'lol muamba dead', which is what i was asking

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:13 (thirteen years ago)

ah right, the full tweets are on youtube if you search his name

Number None, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:14 (thirteen years ago)

no thanks, question answered and see ya in 56 asshole

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:18 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno what the guy said, but i think getting locked up, and possibly raped for 56 months, for typing some keys on a social media site is a bit harsh. I also think that footballers salaries afford them to suck up racist bigot couch potatoes opinions, and after all if there were no racist bigot couch potatoes who'd support football?....lol

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:07 (thirteen years ago)

^

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:07 (thirteen years ago)

all those cups are the League Cup

the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 04:25 (thirteen years ago)

56 months would be harsh but he was jailed for 56 days. He'll be out this time next month. It was probably for the torrent of racist abuse he levelled at other Twitter users, not just whatever he said about Muamba.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:54 (thirteen years ago)

^ yes and ^^ yes

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 07:39 (thirteen years ago)

xpost No, I don't recall any of the QPR fans being that fussed about the actual trophy the club won. We were just happy to have won something, anything. That said, it is the prettiest trophy in English football.

xxpost And, yes, they're all the League Cup, not "kind of" the League Cup.

xxxpost The thing that annoys English football fans is the assumption that top division history began with the Premier League. It is only football commentators and pundits who talk of people being "the top scorer in Premier League history" and so on. The rest of us treat it as a continuum, sullied by the money-grubbing of the past 20 years.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 08:18 (thirteen years ago)

OTFM

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 08:32 (thirteen years ago)

the "Premier League" is so tainted with Sky hype and rewrites of history, a magical world where there have only ever been 4 or 5 clubs in the country that have won anything or are worth giving a shit about.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 08:34 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i was really confused by ken bringing up the league cup. the only thing i could think of is that in the past 5 years it has lost its prestige.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 08:35 (thirteen years ago)

top scorer in epl history is kinda different but does grate a little at times, but hey i'm 30 so count em back i'm not v bothered.

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 08:38 (thirteen years ago)

Top scorer in EPL history isn't different. Sorry Nat Lofthouse, your goals don't matter anymore - we've got Jermaine Defoe's to count now, and they count double because they were on Sky Super Sunday! What about players whose careers spanned both incarnations? Do you really think they divide their goals into PL goals and D1 goals?

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 08:44 (thirteen years ago)

I bet Shearer does

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 08:57 (thirteen years ago)

you're thinking of 'league goals' imo

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 08:57 (thirteen years ago)

I like this anti-'EPL' turn, a futile angry mob I can really get behind and feel part of

the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:18 (thirteen years ago)

i saw the first goal in EPL history (brian deane vs manchester united)

caek, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:20 (thirteen years ago)

Did it blow your mind?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:21 (thirteen years ago)

I am fairly sure no one ever called it EPL till, say, 5 years ago -- certainly never at all in the 1990s -- this was really a knock-on from the SPL surely.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:24 (thirteen years ago)

I never got an answer to my question as to whether Liverpool fans would trade a European Cup for a PL title. I honestly think in their heart of hearts most would

Number None, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:25 (thirteen years ago)

i think EPL is a bit less presumptuous than the old "the Premier League" thing

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:25 (thirteen years ago)

Starting Scottish records from the beginnings of the SPL is even worse imo. I didn't even realise there was supposed to have been a break in the continuum until Kris Boyd started getting lauded for being all-time capocannoniere.

EPL comes from US usage I think, at least that's where I adopted it from.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:28 (thirteen years ago)

xxxxp the moment it happened, i knew football would never be the same again, yes

caek, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:28 (thirteen years ago)

no one says EPL in real life

Number None, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:29 (thirteen years ago)

i have lost my shit before at how much i hate 'EPL'.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:31 (thirteen years ago)

whether Liverpool fans would trade a European Cup for a PL title

No chance, if for no other reason than that the five big cups is where the glory really comes from. Anyone can win 18 or so titles these days.

I was wondering about trophy exchange rates at the weekend, actually, when I spotted Rangers' five stars above the badge, as opposed to Celtic's one. That doesn't seem like proper convertibility to me.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:32 (thirteen years ago)

that's how much they paid in millions for each goal

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:34 (thirteen years ago)

i honestly would rather win the league than the European Cup every single time. Probably a bit parochial of me but there you go

Number None, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:34 (thirteen years ago)

nah i think the league is a bigger deal. European Cup devalued since they let non-champions play

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:35 (thirteen years ago)

for one thing the league is the hardest title to win

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:36 (thirteen years ago)

atm i'd pick arsenal winning the european cup over the league. but thats more because of having to go through lots of european final heartbreak with v. little payoff in my life. i've already seen us win the league a handful of times.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:37 (thirteen years ago)

a thing that people do say, in interviews: THE BARCLAYS PREMIER LEAGUE

funny thing is that Barclays were the first D1 sponsors, I think, back in 1987, so in my mind there is something relatively traditional and OK-ish about this compared to some possibilities

the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:38 (thirteen years ago)

See, I think the devaluing's gone the other way. Top four's become almost as big a thing as a title.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:38 (thirteen years ago)

well yeah, it's different for Arsenal. It'd be a pretty big deal for Liverpool to put a dent in that 100 year gap (give or take) since they last won the title

Number None, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:39 (thirteen years ago)

everybody wants what they can have

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:39 (thirteen years ago)

I was wondering about trophy exchange rates at the weekend, actually, when I spotted Rangers' five stars above the badge, as opposed to Celtic's one. That doesn't seem like proper convertibility to me.

I would not trade our one star for ten of theirs.

Looking forward to a star free "nuRangers 2012" shirt in the Scottish 3rd division next season.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:39 (thirteen years ago)

Brazil wear five stars too, same as Rangers.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:42 (thirteen years ago)

In many ways they're the South American Rangers.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:43 (thirteen years ago)

i can't even think of one

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:46 (thirteen years ago)

Would not trade a European Cup for a Prem title. Actually I wouldn't even trade our 2001 ridiculously inept 5-4 win over Alves in the UEFA Cup Final for a Prem title
xxxxp

pandemic, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:48 (thirteen years ago)

you're kidding yourself man

Number None, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:49 (thirteen years ago)

no i'm actually not.

pandemic, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:50 (thirteen years ago)

pandemic comin in low for that eplbay auction, you know fergie's gonna wait til last day of the season and bid a penny more tho

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:51 (thirteen years ago)

I'd probably relinquish that year's Charity Shield for the title tbf

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:54 (thirteen years ago)

The only European Cup LFC have won in the Prem era is 2005 and you would have to take that from my cold dead hands before I'd give it up. For anything.

pandemic, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:56 (thirteen years ago)

ya i mean when it kept rafa employed long enough to do the damage he did......

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:59 (thirteen years ago)

oh it doesn't have to be that one specifically, I understand that was a pretty special occasion. You can pick one of the more boring '70s/80s ones

Number None, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:59 (thirteen years ago)

i mean like, you would count carling cup/worthington cup/coca cola cup etc to be the same thing but then you would only be "kind of" correct to count them all under "league cup"?

― Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:12 (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wait what

― Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:13 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ugh. i fucked up my sentence! the last bit was going to say "you would only be correct to count them under "league cup" then i got scared that maybe the format has changed or something that i didn't know about so added "kind of" to try and cover myself without editing the sentence so it made any sense.

i forgot what my point even was.. i think it was that you would be correct to use the "generic" name without the branding when counting. but if you add the branding then you would be specifically talking about the brand? I brought it up because the name changed several times and people do often call it with the sponsor name.. whereas people seldom call the FA cup "The FA cup with Budweiser"?

going back to only talk in sarcasm from now on.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:13 (thirteen years ago)

sure you are

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

no seriously

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:20 (thirteen years ago)

oh i see what you did now

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:20 (thirteen years ago)

I feel like I'm watching a man fall apart before my eyes

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:21 (thirteen years ago)

John Terry?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:26 (thirteen years ago)

fall apart, not fall over..

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:34 (thirteen years ago)

^^ken showing his bouncebackability right there

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

needless to say, i had the last laugh

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

I like Ken!

Ken, we should have a picnic one day.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

Re: Barclays sponsoring division one back in the 80s, I don't think they were the first. Wasn't it Canon? There was also Today (the newspaper).

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

as well to be canon, as utd escape a cert pen at ot again

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

Onion headline:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/mar/28/stuart-pearce-making-plans-england

the pinefox, Thursday, 29 March 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

he's taking his eye off the Olympics iyam

we are not bemused (onimo), Thursday, 29 March 2012 12:33 (thirteen years ago)

I reckon there'll be a quango somewhere picking the Olympics squad on basis of various small-p political factors. If Beckham and/or a Scottish or Northern Irish player make the team you'll know what I mean.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 29 March 2012 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

Don't see why Jonny Evans shouldn't be in it on merit

Number None, Thursday, 29 March 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

that's fair, i'm sure there's one or two more but.....

less of the same (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 March 2012 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

Has he turned good? Can't say I've noticed him being conspicuously terrible since the 6-1, in fairness.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 29 March 2012 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

Think most Utd fans will tell you he's been one of our players of the season

Number None, Thursday, 29 March 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

just thought of a wild card - Paddy McCourt

Number None, Thursday, 29 March 2012 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

it's that time of the season folks...

michael owen
‏@themichaelowen

"I was buzzing with the Gaffers words about me yesterday. I'm of the same mindset. There could be an important goal needed to be scored at some point and I will be prepared should it fall to me! Hope I'm fit before but I wouldn't mind making the bench for the City game!!!!"

Chris, Thursday, 29 March 2012 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

kinda lol, mostly sad

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 29 March 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

evans and koscielny have matured and become much less error-prone over the course of this season- the latter is very nearly the player he's been claimed as by sam since day 1 (he was p shite for most of the interim)

less of the same (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 March 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

I thought I was the one who (over)rated Koscielny. Think he ought to start for France this summer tbh.

boxall, Thursday, 29 March 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i dont remember being that crazy about us buying some no-name with 1 year in a top division in his mid twenties. i also don't think he's been much better lately, it is more to do w/ the opposition being shit. he is a middling-to-good player who could one day become a very good player.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

Michael Cox has said that Koscielny is already better than Vermaelen, for whatever that's worth.

boxall, Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

i dont know who that is, for whatever that's worth.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

He does http://www.zonalmarking.net/ and pieces/blogs for ESPN, the Guardian and some others, I think his match reviews are great. We've definitely talked about him before on some thread or another.

boxall, Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

i hear owen coyle's his biggest fan

Chris, Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

(of michael cox, not koscielny).

Chris, Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

oooh i like ZM, just never remembered his name i guess.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

Cech set to extend his Chelsea career after Villas-Boas exit

Lots to read in there, presumably thanks to AVB gabbing, but the headline identifies the problem exactly, really.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 29 March 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

you guys give avb way, way too easy a time

yes abramovich kneecapped him by reneging on the full summer squad overhaul he was hired to oversee but that doesnt excuse avb's rank ineptitude in everything he did after that. if he knew he couldnt ship them out til next summer then why bother forcing them to play in a manner unsuited to them and make a tit out of himself ostracising the big dogs? either tactically inflexible, vain, stupid - or all three

let's not forget his "win it for jt" crassness either

r|t|c, Thursday, 29 March 2012 18:21 (thirteen years ago)

yeah but the Chelsea players are such twats though

Number None, Thursday, 29 March 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

What they were to be utterly unimpressed with was Villas-Boas's man management. Drogba came to the new manager to ask if he would have a fair opportunity to start matches with, or ahead of, owner's favourite Torres, or be allowed to leave. The Ivorian was told that Villas-Boas considered him a fading force; one that he would sell if he could but wasn't yet allowed to.

Drogba walked out of the meeting bemused by the manager's bluntness, quickly passing the tactless message onto others about to suffer similar fates.

Frank Lampard the scorer of at least 10 Premier League goals in an unprecedented nine consecutive seasons suggested he could help the team by playing off the main striker. In front of his teammates, Villas-Boas accused the England international of only being interested in scoring goals, adding that Lampard was "not his type of player". Here again, was the lack of "emotional intelligence" those who knew Villas-Boas had worried about.

http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/sport-comment/andre-villas-boas-was-the-man-with-the-plan-but-found-no-support#full

r|t|c, Thursday, 29 March 2012 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

Michael Cox has said that Koscielny is already better than Vermaelen, for whatever that's worth.

― boxall, Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:05 (3 hours ago) Bookmark

not the first grumbles i've heard about verm lately, has he really fallen off?

pretty shocked that he and koscielny are the same age

r|t|c, Thursday, 29 March 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

I still think he's very good. The major criticism I've heard is that he's reckless, will creep forward looking to head off (or join) attacks but get caught out of position. He's been in and out of the side with injuries and variously paired with Kosc, Mertesacker and Djourou, factors that prob don't help.

boxall, Thursday, 29 March 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

beckenbauer in his prime would get stuffed next to that lot so yeah prob not

r|t|c, Thursday, 29 March 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

holy fuck is that article meant to be on drogba's or lampard's side?

less of the same (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

"Every club gets breaks here and there, you get good ones and bad ones. It evens itself out over the season, that will never change."

What are you thinking, Ferguson? This should appear as a disclaimer on every interview he ever does from now on.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

In front of his teammates, Villas-Boas accused the England international of only being interested in scoring goals, adding that Lampard was "not his type of player".

Yeah, see, despite being one hundred percent true this is fucking terrible man-management.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

It got Frank motivated enough to score that penalty that time

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

i'd imagine that when you're trying to organise these heaving lumpen cunts into some semblance of discipline the perma-indulged biscuitlover trying to tell you where he should play in frot of the rest of the team would be irksome

less of the same (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

yah he got a retirement fund payout and got to generally troll 'the senior players' & piss on their shitty little parade for 6 months, doubt hes too upset

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

boss boss woss wrong wiv me ployn beyind dideyay

less of the same (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

boss

less of the same (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

boss i assed you a question

less of the same (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

yeah but he's got an IQ of 198 or sumfing

Number None, Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

doubt hes too upset

"r u srs"

boxall, Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

I can't know what's in his heart but I kinda doubt the 34 year old manager working 18 hour days and sleeping at the training ground is pleased with the first ever blemish on his CV because he got to 'troll' anyone.

boxall, Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

Reckon AVB wouldn't have behaved like that if Abramovich hadn't led him to believe he could get away with it, but yeah dumb all the same.

Abramovich will still ship half these cunts out in the summer. I'd be unimpressed by a load of my senior players putting a Champions League place at risk by basically deciding they couldn't be fucked because they didn't get along with the manager.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 March 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

if he isnt a prissy idiot then he can get over it, maybe go share a few bottles of sassicaia w/ ancelotti and he'll explain

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 29 March 2012 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

The major criticism I've heard is that he's reckless, will creep forward looking to head off (or join) attacks but get caught out of position.

eh, he's arsenal's second best goalscorer, so, fair enough?

Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 29 March 2012 23:44 (thirteen years ago)

Ian Wright got caught out of position?

Abramovich will still ship half these cunts out in the summer. I'd be unimpressed by a load of my senior players putting a Champions League place at risk by basically deciding they couldn't be fucked because they didn't get along with the manager.

― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 March 2012 23:00 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

who tf wants to pay ebrjt and smart and fat frank lampards wages? or how do you ship out players w/ nowhere for them to go?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 30 March 2012 08:38 (thirteen years ago)

You're acting like clubs like Anzhi and Man City don't exist.

Reckon Terry will stay whatever happens, the others I'm not sure about.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 30 March 2012 08:49 (thirteen years ago)

"whatever" not including any potential outcome of his trial, surely?

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 March 2012 09:25 (thirteen years ago)

I've just been assuming he'll get off that one.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 30 March 2012 09:29 (thirteen years ago)

well yeah but

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 March 2012 09:29 (thirteen years ago)

lamps is still out of contract this season isnt he? still can't see jt letting him get the tin that easily unless it's to a mutually agreed cushy number in america

jimmy quinn needs his mick gooding

r|t|c, Friday, 30 March 2012 10:45 (thirteen years ago)

The Mirror is claiming Anzhi are going to give Chelsea £45m for Torres. I know you're super rich lads but you could probably get that price down a bit

Number None, Friday, 30 March 2012 10:58 (thirteen years ago)

That's like my initial attempts at haggling when I went to North Africa. You don't feel good afterwards.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 11:08 (thirteen years ago)

i try not to brag on ilx about my few definite and irl applicable skills, but five years of dealing with irish landlords has my haggling skills razor-sharp, i often have to remind myself to go easy on the softer ones

Anyway, torres, assuming his wages had to be maintained post-move, is a 15m right winger.

less of the same (darraghmac), Friday, 30 March 2012 11:14 (thirteen years ago)

Stop being a tease Roberto and tell us how Sergio injured his foot. CMMMMOOONN!

kid steel (cajunsunday), Friday, 30 March 2012 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

maybe he dropped a full jerry can on it

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 30 March 2012 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

I'm guessing his kid Shawcrossed him

Number None, Friday, 30 March 2012 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

mario drove his quad bike over his toes. only possible explanation.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Friday, 30 March 2012 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

big toe in the bathtap

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

yikes, this is pretty horrible: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/mar/30/aston-villa-stilian-petrov-leukaemia

sonderangerbot, Friday, 30 March 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

Fucking hell! Thoughts with Stilian and all.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 30 March 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

God, that's awful, poor Stan.

ailsa, Friday, 30 March 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

Fucking hell! Thoughts with Stilian and all.

― EZ Snappin, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:35 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 30 March 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

hope he'll receive as much love as muamba did

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 30 March 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

Damn, that's awful. Thought he was one of the few players on Villa worth watching.

boxall, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

I got to thinking the other day that those weird Adidas tops Chelsea and Liverpool wear, the ones that can't decide whether they're short or long sleeved, might be contributing to their struggles.

boxall, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

don't worry, we're wearing warrior next season. just you wait ;)

Chris, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool v spurs in baltimore in july btw. wire football puns please.

Chris, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

Preston North End Broadus, Velez Marlo Stanfield, that kind of thing? Only better?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-aKzvAntH9yI/Tqns3IF93rI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/C2UJvcPMLec/s1600/lpoolwarriorHA.png

Don't like it.

boxall, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

I assume there will be a "If you come at the King you best not miss" banner

Number None, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

"I want my corners!"

EZ Snappin, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

not sure those kits are genuine ben. seen some which supposedly are and they're nicer than those.

saw someone on twitter suggesting we get snoop and chris partlow to defend our corners.

Chris, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

Something about Charlie Adam's $1m corners.

boxall, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

milan v chelsea in DC the same day as pool/spurs

dan m, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

Dan is every top-flight match in the US this summer compiled in one place anywhere that you know of?

boxall, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1913788

toandos, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

detective phil mcnulty

jabba hands, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

That BS thread should be a good list. There might be some missing because not every team is playing an MLS club, but I'd bet my ass that SUM (marketing wing of MLS) is organizing them all so the MLS site will have listings. Liverpool/Roma is in Boston ahead of the Spurs game, Aston Villa is coming to Chicago and Portland to play the Fire and Timbers, Roma says they're playing in Chicago too (no opponent listed yet, probably Guadalajara or America) etc etc. There will be quite a few.

dan m, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

Some enterprising soul should organise it a little more, schedule a final, and just call it the Club World Cup (or whatever the FIFA thing isn't called). The clubs would go for that big time I reckon, there's money in it and they're there already.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't that already happen last summer?

Thanks for the link btw.

boxall, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

They actually kind of did that in the past two years. Last year was the "Herbalife World Football Challenge" or something like that, made completely confusing (in addition to being meaningless from the start) because each team did not play the same number or games or similar opponents.

dan m, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

That sounds awful though. The FIFA thing's never going to take off, it's ripe for takeover imo.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_World_Football_Challenge

I remember that Barca-Guadalajara match being pretty good, for July.

boxall, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah Chivas always seems to get up for those matches.

dan m, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

What a strange format. Barcelona's three games were the last three in the tourney?

One or two host cities, saturate them with footy for a fortnight imo

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

boxall if you want all top flight MLS matches and friendlies (and CONCACAF Champs League etc): http://www.mlssoccer.com/schedule

dan m, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

Crowds of Utd fans descending on somewhere in Alabama, running battles with your riot cops, it'd be a blast.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

lol

dan m, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

LOL don't suppose anyone read big sam's column in the standard today:

"I don’t need to play any mind games before tomorrow’s match against Reading. One look at the Championship table shows you how important it is. All I will say is that I expect it to be a tight affair. They will try to frustrate us, make everyone nervous and try to take advantage from that scenario.

We know it will be a game of patience, focus and resilience. We need to wait for the right time to pounce and then do it with the speed and venom of a rattlesnake."

r|t|c, Friday, 30 March 2012 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

...FT west ham 1-1 reading (nolan pen)

r|t|c, Friday, 30 March 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

xps Cutty's real name was Dennis Wise, can't believe I forgot that

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

Today we put Arsenal to the sword. Look at it this way: QPR beat Chelsea and Liverpool at home, and gave best display of the season in losing 3-2 to Man City. All the omens point to a home win today.

EXCEPT FOR US BEING ABSOLUTELY FUCKING SHIT ALL OVER THE FUCKING PITCH WITH A TEAM FULL OF PLAYERS WHO NO LONGER GIVE A TOSS.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Saturday, 31 March 2012 08:33 (thirteen years ago)

Fabrice Muamba recovery plan continues here

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

BBC Sport Chief Football Writer Phil McNulty at Molineux

"One of the joys of Molineux. Always a touch of pre-match Led Zeppelin featuring Wolves fan Robert Plant. The Immigrant Song. And straight into Kashmir. Can't knock that."

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

'the' immigrant song

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

effing immigrants

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

yaya is the only city attacker still in form

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

hart maybe lacks explosiveness

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

de gea wd have reached that

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

wow dzeko!

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

v nice run to win pen, mario scores (obv)

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

thank fuck for that

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

Bendtner with a fine header.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

sessegnon tbh

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

Sunderland deserve this. City are rubbish

Number None, Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

city forwards showing a bit of life now

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

Mancini out

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

needs Tevez tbh

Number None, Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

this could be like 07/08 when chelsea faded out

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

ynahtid will play dong fangzhou vs citeh away

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

RIP big man

Number None, Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

apart from individual players in bad pacthes, the lack of possession players in mf is a systemic weakness

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

vs stoke citeh had like 52% possession which is TERRIBLE

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

I presume the demise of Silva has a bit to do with it

Number None, Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

OptaJoe on Twitter: "53.3% - For the first time ever in the PL (116 games) Stoke have recorded more than 50% possession in a single match. Patience."

from this august...

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

silva plays too high tho...they need a deep lying playmaker like oh idk david pizzaro maybe

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

in the autumn silva played all over the shop, he was great but u can see hes exhausted now

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

~YESS

PSOD (Ste), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

Sunderland look like world beaters! City looks like crap.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

Kights has picked a hell of a time to decide he wants to play in the Prem. gonna feel weird rooting for Stoke now.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

like oh idk david pizzaro maybe

smh at Mancini for buying and *again* refusing to play Pizarro.

boxall, Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

WELCOME BACK ROGER FUCKING JOHNSON

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

sounds like Petrov dived, fancy us getting fuck all from the referee for a change

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

sunderland fannying about now

PSOD (Ste), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

I was trying to figure out what Stilian Petrov's cancer has to do with anti-Wolves referees.

boxall, Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

sorry it was Mark Davies who dived, Petrov scored the penalty

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

blimey villa comeback

PSOD (Ste), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

hello Championship

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

hope my dad is okay, he shouldn't be paying to put up with this bullshit

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

3-2 at city

caek, Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

OMFG

PSOD (Ste), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

3-3!

caek, Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

2 goals in a minute

caek, Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

What the hell?

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

Huh?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

Balotelli scored, City instantly got possession back from the restart and Kolarov scored again.

boxall, Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

silva plays too high tho...they need a deep lying playmaker like oh idk david pizzaro maybe

― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan)

prescient

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

lol at balotelli kicking off about wanting to take that freekick btw

caek, Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

He probably takes credit for both goals, having challenged Kolarov to step his shooting game up.

boxall, Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

wigan 2-0

only one team a lock for relegation by the looks of it

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

ffs Sunderland, pass the fucking ball sometimes

PSOD (Ste), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

Bolton win, QPR win, Wigan win. blimey

ironically there will be bell-ends in the Express and Star calling for McCarthy to return tonight

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

the manner of the draw doesn't really do much to distract from the fact that City've dropped their first home points of the season and made it that much easier for Utd

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

Yep. I'll take that. Very, very happily.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

That City fightback keeps Liverpool in a respectable eighth

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 March 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

Wenger out.

Seems like you guys enjoyed the City game.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 31 March 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

QPR deserved to win today. At last, we had both the correct tactics and players managing to carry them out. Taiwo finally looked like a defender; Diakite remembered not to get sent off; Zamora worked immensely hard in a thankless lone-striker role; Taarabt was pretty near his best … Arsenal never really looked comfortable. Shame the other results didn't really go our way, but can't complain.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Saturday, 31 March 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

Keeps it interesting at least. Blackburn were looking safe a fortnight ago. And beating Arsenal is a bonus, third-fourth-fifth is tightening up. I expect Arsenal to kill City off next week, in another game I've passed on the chance of going to.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 March 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

On 71 points with seven games to go, it's now fairly likely that City are going to miss the 86 point total of that 2009 non-title-challenging Liverpool side.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 March 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

From watching MOTD I see that Roger Johnson put in a performance of stunning ineptitude. Surpassed only by THE WORST defending I have ever seen for Wigan's 2nd goal against Stoke. A square pass on the halfway line that the receiving player just waited..and waited..and waited for the ball to reach him at no time did the thought appear to enter his brain that he might want to, I dunno, MOVE TOWARDS the fucking ball before a Wigan player intercepted it. Horrendous.

pandemic, Sunday, 1 April 2012 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

Johnson played 3 good games for Wolves at the start of the season and has been fucking terrible ever since.

i like the fact that Karl Henry didn't automatically walk back into the side now he's fit, McCarthy wd've had him playing on crutches. and the 1st half was as good as we've performed under Connor, albeit that we are shit and going down and probably dropping thru the Championship while the cheap cunt of an owner employs Charlie Cairoli to manage the unmotivated talentless shitshower of cunts we call a squad to continue playing gormless antifootball

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 April 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

Yah, from the highlights Wolves looked v good in the first half. I hope Johnson wasn't playing 'cos his wife tweeted that him being on the bench was #ridiculous.

pandemic, Sunday, 1 April 2012 12:04 (thirteen years ago)

Bloody hell - Carroll looking like a world beater for 95% of that. Wtf was he doing?!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

What a dick

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

that was pretty stupid, unless he lost his footing. still.

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 1 April 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

Krul has completely mugged him there. Well played

Number None, Sunday, 1 April 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

Brilliant save by Krul there, then off the line - didn't think that was handball.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

Ah no, it was. Was all but behind the line too.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

And there's the inevitable sucker punch.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

Really good header on the stretch.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

expect Liverpool to bid for Ben Arfa in the summer

Number None, Sunday, 1 April 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

i was thinking that Suarez would be really good in this newcastle side.

mizzell, Sunday, 1 April 2012 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll looking dangerous today, like he's remembered what he was good at.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

Think a mid table team with aspirations (no I'm not describing LFC) could do worse than go for Papiss Demba Cisse. Second top scorer to Mario Gomez in Bundesliga in an unfashionable Freiburg side. Been impressed whenever I've seen him, strong, good in the air, surprisingly nimble and mobile and leads the line well. In fact I might be selling him a bit short with the mid table thing, he may well be better than that.

― pandemic, Monday, May 23, 2011 3:07 PM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I really should have been talking about LFC when I wrote 'mid table team with aspirations.

pandemic, Sunday, 1 April 2012 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

Wow I didn't realise that Everton had slipped ahead of Liverpool.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 1 April 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

Yep, we're underdogs for the Cup semi now.

pandemic, Sunday, 1 April 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

Sunderland would've climbed ahead too but for City's late goals.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

An inch from 2-0, that would've been awful

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

Cisse is fantastic though

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

Wow I didn't realise that Everton had slipped ahead of Liverpool.

― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, April 1, 2012 9:07 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

think the commentator just said that only wolves have picked up fewer points in 2012

mizzell, Sunday, 1 April 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

Yup, eight points so far this year. Wouldn't entirely count out us making it nine today, but this is a huge 45 minutes coming up in terms of spirit, imagination, etc even if not.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

why was Simpson holding the post like that? He was basically asking handball it. Of course he got away with it but it seems like a risky strategy

Number None, Sunday, 1 April 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

Wonderful goal, Cisse 2-0

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

mile offside though

Number None, Sunday, 1 April 2012 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

Was it? I just saw them pulling us to bits.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

I suppose that makes up for the handball in the first half no wait

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

a good two yards or so

Number None, Sunday, 1 April 2012 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

No doubt about it. Still, seems pointless grumbling, it'd just've happened some other way instead.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

Also has anyone noticed that Liverpool's hideous run of form has coincided with the return of Jamie Carragher to the starting lineup?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

Since Agger's been injured the defence has collapsed entirely.

pandemic, Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

Never a red, come on! Ffs.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

At least we'll get an outfielder in goal now.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

What a shambles.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

Lol as fuck

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

I would love it if we beat them now

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

wtf was Kenny doing?

Number None, Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

Reina out of the Cup SF now. Marvelous.

pandemic, Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

At least Utd lost 3-0 there

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

wasn't quite as embarrassing as this tbf

Number None, Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

I'll take what I can get. Clean sheet for Enrique too, get that up ye.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

it's all about the cups. it's all about the cups. it's all about the cups. argh fuck it.

Chris, Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

no Dalglish interview :(

Number None, Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

I'd have a 'what does the future hold' poll up by now were it anyone else.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

hey, look on the bright side, at least doni's gonna get a few games :D

Chris, Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

At least we'll get an outfielder in goal now.

Think the last time that happened was Staunton going in goal in the Derby in 99/00 wasn't it. Made a great fingertip save too.

Chris, Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

Tottenham being well outplayed here in the first 15', but I don't really trust Swansea to make sure the scoreline reflects that.

boxall, Sunday, 1 April 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

Predictably, one nice Spurs counter makes it 1-0, VdV with the goal.

boxall, Sunday, 1 April 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

Bale acting like a winger

Number None, Sunday, 1 April 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

otm

boxall, Sunday, 1 April 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

Give Bale time. He'll revert to form before you know it.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 1 April 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

Think the last time that happened was Staunton going in goal in the Derby in 99/00

Staunton at Liverpool in 2000?

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 1 April 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

It's such a joy to see Bale bombing down the left again, Rangel can't cope with him at all. Swansea are playing too openly for an away game at WHL, would expect Rogers to do something about that at half time.

Modric is looking good as well, late miss aside. That guy could play for Swansea.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 1 April 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

Dion Dublin keeps saying 'Bale's heels are on the chalk'.

Dublin is a bizarre 'analyst' figure, almost all his replies to questions are jovial references to his own excellence as a player.

the pinefox, Sunday, 1 April 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

first goal in 133 corners for spurs

mizzell, Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

We scored from one on Wednesday.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

league corners

Number None, Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

Have you had 132 today?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

Kenny is now favourite to be next manager out

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

i posted that fact in the league thread guys. come on.

mizzell, Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

If we get one more we're back in third.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

Siggurdsson is really good btw.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, he has 15 goals in 47 epl and bundesliga apps

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

Staunton at Liverpool in 2000?

Indeed. It was after that Westerveld/Jeffers fight at Anfield and we'd used all 3 subs.

Chris, Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

Dublin is a bizarre 'analyst' figure

he thinks that Swansea's goal was a mis-struck shot, which seems entirely wrong to me

3-1 was a more or less fair score I think but Spurs' profligacy in or near the box was almost Arsenal-esque

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

(xp) How old was he by then? I have no memory of Staunton going back to Liverpool.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

well he was trying to keep the volley down but i don't know if the bounce was entirely intentional

Number None, Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

nah I reckon he knew how much havoc it would cause Friedel on acct of his poor positioning

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

caller to 5Live just suggested, quite seriously, that Kevin Keegan should take over at LFC till the end of the season.

the pinefox, Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

football fans are the biggest idiots in the world

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

xp pretty sure every non-Liverpool fan can get behind that idea tbf

GILFy Sigurdsson (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

Dalglish to reign for a thousand years

Number None, Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

carragher player manager, phil thompson as assistant

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

staunton came back at the start of 98/99 when evans and houllier were in charge. ahh, joint managers, that was fun. he was 29 when he came back. scored against hull in the league cup. don't know why i remember that. i have to say this staunton chat is a lot more enjoyable than trying to make sense of what's going on at lfc in 2012.

Chris, Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

Staunton's got managerial experience, no?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

no

Number None, Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

no way is dalglish going any time soon btw. don't know why i'm so sure of this but there ya go.

Chris, Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

Stevie G for player-manager surely!

the pinefox, Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

Dalglish won't be manager when the next season starts.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

I think Kenny's finished now myself, he probably won't go now because there's a semifinal shortly, but he'll be gone with thanks as soon as the season's over. That was the kind of shambles, rounding off a dreadful streak, that managers rarely recover from. The players are obviously all over the place, mentally.

I'm thinking it'll be Rafa.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

Really ??

the pinefox, Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

I mean I can see KD going but not RB coming back.

the pinefox, Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

rewatched qpr last night and our defensive strategy is all over the place. some players pressing, others not, leaving gaps, downing at centreforward for restarts, in a 442 shape sometimes, 451 at others. no-one seems to have a clue what they're supposed to be doing, and it makes you wonder what the hell they're doing on the training pitch. same today, spearing presses, leaves a huge gap behind him - basic stuff. i posted a video recently of rafa's lfc pressing against villa in 08/09, and it was fucking beautiful. not saying we should be at that level already at this stage of kenny's project, but ffs it's march, and we don't seem to have any idea whatsoever of what *the plan* is. are we analysing games? figuring out what's going wrong? even attempting to put things right? because it's been the same problems all season. and yet every now and again we do look very good. first 20mins today, excellent, thought we were on to something, moving it from back to front with confidence. but when we keep falling apart like this, i dunno, is kenny just leaving it all to the players to figure out for themselves?

he'll still be here next season mind. and no way is rafa coming back, however much i want him to.

Chris, Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

however much i want him to.

(in 10 years time when kenny's won us a few league titles and a couple of european cups obv.)

Chris, Sunday, 1 April 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

hi

no way does dalglish last june

third, i'm tellin ye. adebayor rubbish today besides two centre fwd goals- i can live with that but he'd get more if he

i. took up centre fwd positions
ii. jumped ffs

less of the same (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 April 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

which spurs player was it that accidentally kicked a swansea player when he was supposed to kick the ground in frustration? that was funny.

Chris, Sunday, 1 April 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

walker

mizzell, Sunday, 1 April 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

Pardew attributed Cissé's excellent performance to diet. The striker's two goals here took his Premier League total to seven since his debut in February – two more than Carroll has managed in the league in 14 months at Liverpool. "We had Africa day at the training ground on Friday," Pardew said. "We made him feel at home by having curried goat for lunch. It was lovely."

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 April 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

Lawro is like D-Mac in thinking Spurs 3rd

I liked the casual authority with which he said it

the pinefox, Monday, 2 April 2012 07:49 (thirteen years ago)

Lawro is now much better pundit than Hansen / Shearer unless it is just the magic MotD2 influence.

the pinefox, Monday, 2 April 2012 07:49 (thirteen years ago)

re casual authority- mine or lawro's?

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 2 April 2012 07:54 (thirteen years ago)

Lawro's in this instance

the pinefox, Monday, 2 April 2012 08:00 (thirteen years ago)

i am at least as confident and have a better prediction rate.

less of the same (darraghmac), Monday, 2 April 2012 09:51 (thirteen years ago)

really love that moment - not because I dislike Dalglish but actually because I like Stevie G and his assumption of a Captain's authority.

the pinefox, Monday, 2 April 2012 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

will Kenny get charged for that?

Number None, Monday, 2 April 2012 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

Ouch, that could be an era-defining image depending how things pan out from here.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 April 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

liked this better than john terry's touchline thing

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 2 April 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

Lots of talk lately linking Brendan Rogers to a move to a big club, but I dunno. I really like what he's done at Swansea but he could find himself a kind of latterday Wenger figure - from what I've seen of Swansea they don't seem to have much of a plan B and while it's worked exceptionally well for them they were really naive to continue allowing Gareth Bale so much space yesterday.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 2 April 2012 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

they could do with a plan b going into next season, but it is incredible how he's got them to stick to that style of play and how they haven't panicked at all. i'd imagine that must involve some seriously impressive coaching/psychology/man management in order to establish that level of trust and confidence amongst the players.

Chris, Monday, 2 April 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

plan b's often involved large squads which swansea lack.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 April 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

universal plan B = get it in the fackin mixer

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Quite right. If Robert Huth playing CF for Chelsea was good enough for Mourinho who is Brendan Rogers to think it's beneath him?

pandemic, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

It's more "change things to ensure you're pressing for an equaliser more securely and not being hammered on the break" than "get in the fucking mixer". I'm not suggesting that turning into Stoke is the way forward for them.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 2 April 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

Stoke's plan B is one-touch-instacontrol and unstoppable howitzers

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

universal plan B = get it in the fackin mixer

― Ismael Klata, Monday, April 2, 2012 4:37 PM (1 hour ago)

this is why the phrase is so dispiriting, it's like barcelona DO have the capacity to vary their game but yes sadly none of those involve buying robert huth

english football's perpetual plan B was discovered circa 1370 when some enterprising proto-allardyce found a putrid plagueridden horse and decided to try catapulting it over the walls

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 April 2012 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

i guess none of us are watching this and are just assuming it will eventually be a utd 3-0 win?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 April 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

Repeat until May, basically

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 April 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

I'm watching it

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 2 April 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

0-0 at half-time, United with lots of possession in the final third but few shots. De Gea had to make a flurry of important saves at the end.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 2 April 2012 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

I'm watching too, naturally

Number None, Monday, 2 April 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

bit too dependent on Valencia at the moment. Formation is oddly lopsided

Number None, Monday, 2 April 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

Jones looking a bit poor

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 2 April 2012 19:54 (thirteen years ago)

I'd take Jones off for Young and tell Rooney to stop faffing about in midfield

Number None, Monday, 2 April 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

Is de Gea the non-Newcastle signing of the season? You owe that guy a lot.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 April 2012 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

He's going to be officially labeled 'rubbish' by an ILF poll ending in a couple hours tho.

boxall, Monday, 2 April 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

That's about Daniel de Gea though.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 April 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

Better United performance in the stands than on the pitch

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

I'm guessing there just might be a twist in the tail though.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 April 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

Really don't think that was a foul by Scholes

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

lovely finish by pedersen (didn't count)

mizzell, Monday, 2 April 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

Jones & Hernandez off - hopefully things'll get better

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

Did the ball go out? I can't tell from the radio.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 April 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

Yep, clearly out on the replay. It's irrelevant anyway as they'd stopped playing by the time the shot came in.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

gahh wtf is this shit come on utd already

r|t|c, Monday, 2 April 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

PSOD (Ste), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

All United but still no fucking shots

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

fuckin ell

PSOD (Ste), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

would you believe it.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 April 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

Good Old-Fashioned Winger!

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

valencia was obv getting fed up of his crosses going nowhere, thought fuckit i'll do it myself

PSOD (Ste), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

NOW they can fuck about passing.

PSOD (Ste), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

0-1 and still no shots

mizzell, Monday, 2 April 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

Fans sound in decent voice tbf

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 April 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

beautiful

PSOD (Ste), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

how did that bend in like that?

PSOD (Ste), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

Champions!

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

I'm guessing there just might be a twist in the tail

Uncanny

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 April 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

lol pnev on 5 live just now

"the thing about antonio is - and uh it doesnt seem right saying this - is er, sometimes with wingers you're thinking if i smash him i won't see him again, but antonio he - "

r|t|c, Monday, 2 April 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

"there's a famous saying sir alex says, he says 'the clocks ticking'"

r|t|c, Monday, 2 April 2012 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

you're thinking if i smash him i won't see him again

aka "the Reyes". Thank the lord for Antonio Valenica

Number None, Monday, 2 April 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

the longest passing sequence for a Premier League goal this season
http://i.minus.com/iGfx1G1XEC9jD.gif

Number None, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

is there a long ball to a finish after 10 passes, or does the gif just end there?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

i suspect the problem may be on your end

Number None, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

said jt to successive world-class managers

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

loses some of the epic passing sequence notability when it just ends with valencia saying FUCK IT and beating everyone himself anyway.

Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

that's the extent of Utd's tactics at the moment yeah

Number None, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

if it works, it works.

Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

loses some of the epic passing sequence notability when it just ends with valencia saying FUCK IT and beating everyone himself anyway.

Arguably it would if this was the Valencia goal, but it isn't, it's Young's.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

yeah but nothing is really happening til Valencia picks it up and runs with it

Number None, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

is there usually fitba on good friiday

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 6 April 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Aw damn, someone already scored?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 April 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

ya :(

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 6 April 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

well i cant find a working stream anyway

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 April 2012 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

wiziwig.eu

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 6 April 2012 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

i love watching allen and britton play. they deserve some better attackers tho.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Friday, 6 April 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

although newcastle are defending well to be fair.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Friday, 6 April 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

just turned this on. possession stats can't be right, swansea 79% newcastle 21%

toandos, Friday, 6 April 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.optasports.com/about/news/feature-a-ball-possessed.html

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 6 April 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

that stat looks about right for the first half. swansea are playing a little more direct now so newcastle will prob have more possession.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Friday, 6 April 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

good double sub. from swansea. i like sinclair and graham.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Friday, 6 April 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

CISSE!

kid steel (cajunsunday), Friday, 6 April 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

cisse falling to his side makes it 2-0, quite an angle and shot

toandos, Friday, 6 April 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

that was a fantastic shot

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 6 April 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

one of the finishes of the season

Number None, Friday, 6 April 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

nufc and tottenham are the sort of teams who can play swansea with relatively little trouble by compressing their lines, stealing from feet and playing the transitions at full pace

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 6 April 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

davide santon looking like a player again, which he ought to rly

inter is such a bawheid organzation at times

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 6 April 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

cisse can fuck off, his sidelining of ba is ruining my chances in the fantasy league run-in.

Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Friday, 6 April 2012 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

they can both fuck off for sidelining dioufy in the galsen football pantheon

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 6 April 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

merdeyeux: lè haters

boxall, Friday, 6 April 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

otm

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 6 April 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

Bought myself a ticket for Villa tomorrow, hardcore fan I am. Fifth row not too far from the dugout, hoping to hear exactly what football managers yell at their players for 90 minutes. Could be an enlightening experience.

Chris, Friday, 6 April 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

Full report please.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

that Cisse goal gets better the more you watch it

Number None, Friday, 6 April 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

xp. Villa classed as a 'Category A' fixture btw (not quite sure why), so that's £48. £48 which I can't really afford tbh, but fuck it, I wanna see if watching from close-up will shed some light on what's going on with this team.

Chris, Friday, 6 April 2012 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

xpost I sit next to the dugout at Loftus Road. It's rarely that enlightening. Though hearing managers shouting at the officials can be funny.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

Jermaine Pennant is one of da best in da EPL and has a better left boot than john arne riise!

- John Dorian, Finland, 05/4/2012 16:04
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The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 6 April 2012 23:40 (thirteen years ago)

i lolled because i read it as john doran. #toomuchtimeonilx

Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Friday, 6 April 2012 23:59 (thirteen years ago)

unimpressed with Sunderland-Spurs so far

Spurs making an insane amt of unforced errors and BAE invokes a profound unease in me every time he has the ball

Sunderland playing better out of the two, certainly in terms of their respective gameplan, but are a horrible bunch of boot-leaving-in fucks

cycling referee Chris Foy turned down a good pen shout from us and a not quite as good but still decent one from S'land

Rudy Ray Reardon (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 7 April 2012 12:39 (thirteen years ago)

Sandro continues his mysterious slide into shit. Am guessing Harry will bring Lennon on, but he may be saving him for Monday.

mizzell, Saturday, 7 April 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

that was a terrible match. don't really understand a team being in 8th place coming off a good performance at City playing for a point at home. spurs never offered enough, though.

mizzell, Saturday, 7 April 2012 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that was awful but both sides bring out the worst in each other rly so not in shock over here tbh

good job booing Bale for having the sheer brass neck to get clattered near the end of the game, you sure showed him Sunderland fans

Rudy Ray Reardon (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 7 April 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

67 min: "If this was match were a bad passing drinking game, where you imbibe for every wayward pass, I'd be sitting in a police sell with no shoes," writes David Fallon. "And it's only the 65th minute."

^homophones aside, this guy gets it

Rudy Ray Reardon (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

oh come on

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

so Doni's fucked up already?

Number None, Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

liverpools best midfielder is doing fine tho

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

eight months ago when he signed for Liverpool xp

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

tbf milan are half asleep but hes putting in more of a shift than nocerino and muntari

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

Kuyt!

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

2-0 to fulham. both goals from dempsey. could be an away win :O

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

Kuyt what? We've still got four goals in hand on Fulham, I'm not worried.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

Kuyt missed an open goal from 2 yards.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

I suppose it's implicit nowadays. It sounds like Liverpool have mostly been on top thus far?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

definitely. Except on the scoreboard.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

Kuyt miss is on 101greatgoals - think Torres still has the gong for worst open goal flub of the season, if we're handing prizes out

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

That pesky scoreboard. Why can't it display kit deals?

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

Official scoreboard: shots on target 2 - bossing it

we are not bemused (onimo), Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

hoping for a big turnaround though, scores like this might make people think Big Eck is a prem level manager

we are not bemused (onimo), Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

argh. nearly a lovely goal from duff.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

dont fulham know muamba is sick?

todays lols are making up for tomorrows result (i'm convinced we are gonna get trounced).

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

I think you'll win tomorrow & kill off City.

I'll feel personally guilty if this game is what lets Villa off the hook.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

1-1 Suarez

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan! Norwich! The racist!

MOTD is gonna be a good one, almost glad I have the night off work and my friend cancelled on plans.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

fuck off Chelsea

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

whatsa Mata you, hey, gotta no respect?

zappi, Saturday, 7 April 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

Both goals offside? That's title-winning form.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 April 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

hmmm, bearing in mind the rest of today's results, an improbable away win at Stoke wd make things interesting.

i can deal with the despair, etc.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 April 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

This is just about the grimmest fixture possible, but the glimmer of hope might save it from that honour.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 April 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

struggling to be arsed to stream it tbh

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 April 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

probably best "enjoyed" in text form

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 April 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

Stoke: Begovic, Shotton, Shawcross, Huth, Wilson, Pennant, Whelan, Whitehead, Etherington, Crouch, Walters. Subs: Sorensen, Jones, Fuller, Upson, Delap, Jerome, Palacios.

Wolverhampton: Hennessey, Stearman, Zubar, Bassong, Ward, Kightly, Henry, Edwards, Jarvis, Ebanks-Blake, Fletcher. Subs: De Vries, Johnson, Berra, Milijas, Davis, Doyle, Forde.

this is p fucking real tbh

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 7 April 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

ah fuck Henry's back. don't see what can go wrong for him in this relegation battle at his former club.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 April 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

Kights again :)

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 April 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

3 Tottenham 32 20 59
4 Arsenal 31 21 58
5 Chelsea 32 18 56
6 Newcastle 32 6 56

if we could get arse>newcastle>spurs>chelsea then life would be sweet

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 7 April 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

and so with comic inevitability the equaliser arrives

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 April 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

My priority is for Arse-Che to be high-stakes, hence a City win tomorrow.

How are the relative run-ins? Bookies still heavily favour a Spurs-Arsenal top four.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 April 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

"no one argues Terry Connor's credentials as a coach"

o-rly.jpg

we are not bemused (onimo), Saturday, 7 April 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

didn't say they were credentials as a good coach tbf

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 April 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

Ah right he has his coaching badges so it's all good. Has there ever been another top flight manager who has never won a game?

we are not bemused (onimo), Saturday, 7 April 2012 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

sets up a champion tyre run, and you wanna see him throwing out those cones

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 April 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

Lombardo won two games, and even Shearer managed one.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 April 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

Crouch has a good head for a big man with good feet. Sometimes.

we are not bemused (onimo), Saturday, 7 April 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

1908 Samtusify on Twitter: "So, Pearce chooses Danny Welbeck against Holland although Crouch has been more dangerous in front of goal. England Logic. *slow clap*"

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 April 2012 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

looooooool

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 7 April 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

I got a crackin' photo of Alex McLeish. I'll share it later.

Chris, Saturday, 7 April 2012 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

Was it worth it?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 April 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

did you not see his post. he got a crackin' photo of Alex McLeish - of course it was worth it!

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 7 April 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

Indeed! Got a couple of pics of our very own Stephen Warnock too. The photo of Lucas is what really made the trip worthwhile though ;) Started badly didn't we, but responded well in the second half and deserved the equaliser. Wasn't pretty, but better than recent weeks. Thought Henderson was really good, and Skrtel was back to his best after a couple of dodgy games. Some lovely footwork by Doni btw.

Chris, Saturday, 7 April 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

i can deal with the despair, etc.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 April 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

refereeeeeeeee sort it out

al habsi killing it

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 7 April 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

fucking torres. just that movement of 'holy fuck that post, im gonna kill myself tonight, oh its cool we still scored'.

mata is on for solskjaer levels of 'player i <3 in teams i hate'

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 7 April 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

Clint Dempsey should be at Utd imo

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 7 April 2012 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

Jelavic should be in our end of season Best Non-Newcastle Signing of the Season poll

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 7 April 2012 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

how the shit did kuyt miss that?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 7 April 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

oooh former Arsenal youth Samir Carruthers making his Premiership debut today for Villa.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 7 April 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

im on iphone now cuz obv im watching the very real stoke vs irreal wolves but id like to recommend an observer article from 2k12 called the real pub landlord or sthing in which timmeh says englishness is a mix of tolerance and incompetence, which is a very real england notion of englishness

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 7 April 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

that was supposed to be for the other thread but yeah

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 7 April 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

lol u gotta rewatch the cisse goal for ba's glum reaction on the bench

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 7 April 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

Think from a Spurs pov we've got to hope that:

- City beat Arsenal today
- Arsenal beat Chelsea, or at least draw
- Chelsea and Newcastle draw
- Tottenham don't completely go to shit

Reckon Newcastle will continue to win until May, but they've then got Chelsea, City and Everton away one after the other.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 8 April 2012 11:14 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool deciding to stop being shit and beating Chelsea at Anfield would be nice as well.

ARGH.

This isn't going to be fun.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 8 April 2012 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

srsly third is delivered stop stressin

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 April 2012 11:24 (thirteen years ago)

I'd be more hopeful of Liverpool doing that than anything else this season tbh

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 April 2012 11:26 (thirteen years ago)

Most one-sided possession stat I've ever seen: United 92% QPR 8%

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 8 April 2012 12:39 (thirteen years ago)

that is harsh

Number None, Sunday, 8 April 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

It's gonna get worse. Cheers ref. May as well turn off now.

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 8 April 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

oh great. unwatchable now.

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 8 April 2012 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

what a joke

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 8 April 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

Thought Derry got him with a kick before the push, he went down easy though, red is superharsh.

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 8 April 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

annoyed at that tbh. Offside and not a foul

Number None, Sunday, 8 April 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

Yup, a trifle harsh

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 8 April 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

absolute cunting joke

cunts better well rescind the ban after this or im going postal

r|t|c, Sunday, 8 April 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

What does Rafael have to do before he's booked?

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 8 April 2012 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

he's on two strikes

Number None, Sunday, 8 April 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

the refereeing team looking a bit shook there

Number None, Sunday, 8 April 2012 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

Leaving aside the specifics of this incident, if a player is running onto a through ball but hasn't reached the ball yet and is then tripped/shoved over in the box, is that a penalty irrespective of whether he was in an offside position when the ball was played?

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 8 April 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

well surely the flag should have gone up for offside before the foul happens, no?

Number None, Sunday, 8 April 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

Indirect free kick for offside as that's the first offence. The challenge could still draw a yellow or red for danger, but not for denying a goalscoring opportunity.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 April 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

Looks even less of a pen with each viewing.

Lineo was perfectly in line with the offside player as well. Gutted.

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 8 April 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

the lino deserves the most blame i think. Such an obvious offside. Young is one of the worst divers in the league but I actually did think it looked like a penalty in real time

Number None, Sunday, 8 April 2012 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

What if the fouled player was nowhere near the ball and not interfering with play?

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 8 April 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

Then he wasn't in control of the ball = no foul

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 April 2012 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

it's so obv we gave up way before kickoff so as long as theres no suspension and the score stays down i'm not mega fussed about the ref tbh

although, amazing how jay bothroyd can still be so feckin infuriating even despite my knowing all that

r|t|c, Sunday, 8 April 2012 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

Xp eh?

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 8 April 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

rangers boys having a little jog, a little smile

nice day out

r|t|c, Sunday, 8 April 2012 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

The evergreen ginger prince defies the calendar

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 8 April 2012 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

alan parry's on-air breakdown was fun.

Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 8 April 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

that's a red

Number None, Sunday, 8 April 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

Fucking nasty from Balotelli, he'll be getting a ban after this

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 8 April 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

fuck me, that was nasty

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Sunday, 8 April 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

that was horrible.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 8 April 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

was the ref watching the game? didn't even seem to react

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Sunday, 8 April 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

what did he do?

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 8 April 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

why always a cunt

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Sunday, 8 April 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

that was a disgusting challenge

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 8 April 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

refereeing has been sterling today.

balotelli was lucky not to break song's leg with a horror challenge with his studs up and the ref didn't even see it to give a foul (shouldve been a straight red).

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 8 April 2012 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

he'll be off at half-time again

Number None, Sunday, 8 April 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

If he doesn't get subbed he'll get sent off within 15 mins

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 8 April 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

He's such a liability. I think he's a good player, but his actual return after deduction of petulance, indiscipline and the head on is pretty poor. This nonsense about him being young as well.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 April 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

Should've volleyed it

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

This goal couldn't be more coming

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

Hardly an original thought this, I know, but God Arsenal can be frustrating. They look great but do everything apart from scoring.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

there it is

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck's sake! For the record, that post was before THAT

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

lol how did that fail to go in.

Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

The fact that it's Arsenal is City's best hope really

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

How are Arsenal not winning this?

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

That's it

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

Boom!

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

Poznan!

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

Still take a point from this.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

Off

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

A bit harsh, finally

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

Cheerio Mario

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

GIRFUY

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

Why always him?

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

Considering he's been on about 60 minutes he shouldn't have it's late justice.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

a bit late but at least he's off now. still hope he gets an extra punishment for that savage foul.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

would be really shitty if he only gets a 1 match ban

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

lol that was crap

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is that :-)

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

Yes. Yes it is. Still reckon Spurs'll finish 3rd.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 8 April 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

Yup. It's enormously depressing that from about about a month ago there's not been the slightest doubt that Utd will win all their remaining games bar the City one

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 April 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

GIRFUY

― ༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Sunday, 8 April 2012 17:51 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

DIOUFY's little brother?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 8 April 2012 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

Arteta reminds me of one of the Kraftwerk robots

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 April 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

Xpost
It is but it's also the only reason I have any respect whatsoever for United.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 8 April 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

The narrative that this is all because of Balotelli is taking over.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 April 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

when will this sick thug be deported?

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 April 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, that's the least of it really

Number None, Sunday, 8 April 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

balotelli isn't a net positive to city tbh, not 'all because of' but imo he stinks, he should count himself lucky tevez exists and both should b fucked out

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 April 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

They will be, I presume; Mancini's interview afterwards was kind of strange, he was all resigned good wishes that Mario can make something of himself in the future.

Dzeko needs to go too, or to be at most the flat-track bully fourth option. The breadth of City's weakness is quite damning; not that anyone else is weaker man-for-man, but they're not showing it like this.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 April 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

lol i will bet money that balotelli is at city and mancini isn't next season

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 8 April 2012 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

what's the upside to keeping him though?

Number None, Sunday, 8 April 2012 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

super troll

also when he wants to be, he is the best striker they have

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 8 April 2012 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

was gonna say in the league and if rvi keeps not scoring, that might be troo by the end of the season

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 8 April 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

he's not even close to Aguero's class

Number None, Sunday, 8 April 2012 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

or Rooney's

Number None, Sunday, 8 April 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

and weren't you saying we should consider Demba Ba one of the best strikers in the world earlier in the season? Your judgement of forwards seems a little off

Number None, Sunday, 8 April 2012 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

Let's be honest, he's like Peter Crouch with a better haircut and a personality.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 8 April 2012 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

I still think Ba should be considered, after the season he has had. I'd take both him and Mario over Rooney in a heartbeat.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 8 April 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

He's not exactly the first player to come back from the ANC looking knackered, it has happened to Drogba and Eto'o and Adebayor etc. too.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 8 April 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

Balotelli's probably been a net positive to City over the season and Tevez/Dzeko don't look like doing much so dropping him now is tantamount to conceding the title and kinda dumb. Fine him, sell him in the Summer, whatever.

It's all Mancini's fault really. Shouldnt have fumbled the Tevez situation and become reliant on Balotelli in the first place.

Aguero still amazing obv.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 8 April 2012 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

mario balotelli has the potential to be one of the greatest strikers in the world, no question. he'll never fulfil that potential obv, but whatever.

ba has had an amazing season. gone off the boil a bit of late, but then again so has david silva, player of the year for my money (maybe rvp should be considered as well tho).

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 8 April 2012 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

kinda feel like dzeko's been heavily undersold considering he's performed in probably as many games as either the silky and admirable aguero and the cult panto villain never-really-bothered balotelli this season. Were citeh to have tried to accommodate the former pairing earlier in the season at the expense of the latter clown they'd be in better shape imo

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 April 2012 23:42 (thirteen years ago)

rvi by a st poty, not rly in q

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 April 2012 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

yeah p much

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 9 April 2012 00:47 (thirteen years ago)

balotelli is a 4real weirdo and already a near-great player and its nice to see him being true to himself and not living up to the expectations of cocksuckers like lineker who want him to be an occasionally endearing clown

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 9 April 2012 00:50 (thirteen years ago)

i mean parse the antics from what prof wenger would call footballistics and he has 13 goals in 21 epl games

sure theres a few penalties but he is just about the best penalty taker around, messi misses more

he is 6'3 and fast, he is technically better than just about any #9 ever played in england, he has instinctive sense of how to isolate defenders and beat them, he can play as support striker and inside forward too

it really would be a huge achievement/ignominy to be so deranged that he cannot be trusted not to kick the shit out of random defenders and has to go play for brescia or something

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 9 April 2012 00:57 (thirteen years ago)

I'm clearly watching a different player

Number None, Monday, 9 April 2012 01:01 (thirteen years ago)

ya

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Monday, 9 April 2012 01:07 (thirteen years ago)

Seriously though, he very rarely stands out for me (off the ball antics aside). Obviously he's got a measure of ability and he is only 21 but "technically better than just about any #9 ever played in England"? I just don't know what a statement like that is based on

Number None, Monday, 9 April 2012 01:09 (thirteen years ago)

it ought to be completely obvious

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 9 April 2012 01:11 (thirteen years ago)

not really. Give me some examples of this supposedly unparalleled technical ability

Number None, Monday, 9 April 2012 01:12 (thirteen years ago)

(and i'll admit the shoulder thing was cool)

Number None, Monday, 9 April 2012 01:12 (thirteen years ago)

eugh piecemeal empiricists are the worst, go watch youtube vids, find one with the worst eurotechno soundtrack and shareware visual fx and watch him run the show for inter primavera

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 9 April 2012 01:14 (thirteen years ago)

oh shut up

Number None, Monday, 9 April 2012 01:17 (thirteen years ago)

i dont think he is quite as skilful as rvp or berbatov but he has a natural felicity with a ball that drogba, rooney and torres dont gave

also u watch a team that have been historically successful while playing at most two or three really technical players at any one time and thus dont rly need to appreciate technique

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 9 April 2012 01:18 (thirteen years ago)

p much if u cant see this u are dumb

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 9 April 2012 01:19 (thirteen years ago)

Balotelli is awesome and in dire need of immediate direction to keep himfrom wasting his talent. Getting carded so much is a sign of not 'reading' the game very well.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Monday, 9 April 2012 01:24 (thirteen years ago)

ah, so your desire to paint Utd as the enemies of good football has actually taken on a retrospective dimension now?

Number None, Monday, 9 April 2012 01:25 (thirteen years ago)

they have sometimes played good football but more through speed and moral courage (c) john giles to attack, and they have played crap football with players like veron and berbatov, the two things dont necessarily go together

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 9 April 2012 01:36 (thirteen years ago)

ahh that side footed goal against united followed by the 'why always me?' t-shirt. amazing.

Chris, Monday, 9 April 2012 01:49 (thirteen years ago)

chris, we are impatiently awaiting the promised pictures of alex mcleish

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 9 April 2012 01:52 (thirteen years ago)

now i've seen them on my laptop they're nowhere near as good as i thought they were when i was viewing them on my camera. i'll upload them later anyway. he shouts an awful lot does alex mcleish.

Chris, Monday, 9 April 2012 02:07 (thirteen years ago)

i like how he does terribly and plays the most dour football imaginable but then just about saves himself by doing something half-creditable liking drawing at anfield

he is one of lifes winners, remember that

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 9 April 2012 02:11 (thirteen years ago)

aw thread got good while i was under hotel arrest.

Utd have, tbf, had a steady policy for some years now of cutting out general technical competence in favour of high effectiveness, imo. But that may well have been a blueprint smuggled in under a matalan jacket.

I've seen a good bit of balotelli, he's got more chops than ameobi the elder, i don't think i've seen it demonstrated that he's any more gifted than ameobi the younger though.

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Monday, 9 April 2012 08:43 (thirteen years ago)

Technical competence vs high effectiveness is an idiot's false dichotomy. They may not be Messi or Ronaldo but I don't think you can deny the technique in what players like Valencia or Nani do. United started the season playing pretty technical tippy-tappy stuff and when that fell apart they regrouped in a much more workmanlike form but really keeping a clear head and not shitting themselves is what will win them the title.

Would quite like a bit of that high effectiveness at Spurs right now tbh.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 9 April 2012 10:12 (thirteen years ago)

xpost Alex McLeish and the awful way he plays football has made him the only opposition manager I have shouted at this season. Not properly abusive, just informing him he is a disgrace for what he's done to a once great football team. I'm pretty sure he doesn't give a fuck about what I think though.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Monday, 9 April 2012 10:16 (thirteen years ago)

it is shocking tho, but i blame Lerner or whoever decided to appoint him

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 April 2012 10:22 (thirteen years ago)

Having appointed McLeish, where you go from there is the interesting question for me. You've already burned your bridges with football, yet there's no obvious way to escalate your new philosophy.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 April 2012 10:36 (thirteen years ago)

I accept McLeish was not helped by having decent players sold. But, still … Any Villa fans here who've watched them frequently care to comment?

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Monday, 9 April 2012 10:37 (thirteen years ago)

ffs matt, i think anyone would allow nani's technical ability, i'd call that a fairly dishonest way to argue the point tbh.

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Monday, 9 April 2012 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

and yes, there's no arguing with the results as long as other managers fail to find that level of numbing efficiency

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Monday, 9 April 2012 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

'that level' is utterly remarkable, being generous to Utd for once. If they're motivated enough to win all their remaining games they'll actually beat Mourinho's 95-point mark

We've lost a hell of a lot of interest through the long-streak-of-wins-to-clinch-the-title becoming routine nowadays though. The white-knuckle stuff rarely happens at the end now - sides have some unexpected draw in February and it turns out there was never any way to recover.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 April 2012 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

well, yeah, that's been my point about the rafa 2nd for years

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Monday, 9 April 2012 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

my villa-supporting mates have all taken up cycling

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Monday, 9 April 2012 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

Just realised the Tottenham Norwich game is a 3pm - thought it was this evening. Stupid public holidays (that I don't get). Probably best I'm at work though - I don't think it's one I'd want to watch. Think Spurs pace will absolutely destroy us today.

CraigG, Monday, 9 April 2012 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

Technical competence vs high effectiveness is an idiot's false dichotomy. They may not be Messi or Ronaldo but I don't think you can deny the technique in what players like Valencia or Nani do. United started the season playing pretty technical tippy-tappy stuff and when that fell apart they regrouped in a much more workmanlike form but really keeping a clear head and not shitting themselves is what will win them the title.

Would quite like a bit of that high effectiveness at Spurs right now tbh.

― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, April 9, 2012 11:12 AM (1 hour ago)

this is p retarded, given that i was exactly parsing 'technique' with 'success' in describing how balotelli is more skilful than torres and drogba, players who have been the best #9 in the world for a time. nani is technically almost identical to ronaldo, though less 'effective'.

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 9 April 2012 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

utd aren't winning the title at all, city have lost it, and it's about more than just a relative lack of confidence/winning mentality

the midfield doesn't keep possession so they have become a 'broken team' again, silva and touré no longer provide fluidity between midfield and forwards

players are played in different positions, nasri and milner are shunted around all over the place, pizarro was attacking mid for 20 mins yesterday then shoved back in front of the defence

the forwards are all below-par since the spring, not necessarily drastically bad, which has to be attributed to mancini and his incoherent system that means players can never rely on other players do be in certain places or do different things

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 9 April 2012 12:25 (thirteen years ago)

I hate the notion that one team doesn't win a title, another team loses it. It's bollocks, and it diminishes the achievement of the team that does win the title.

This season, if United win the title, they will have done so by winning more games and getting more points than anyone else. You can say City imploded, and maybe so, but the point is that United didn't.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Monday, 9 April 2012 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

they will have done so by winning more games and getting more points than anyone else

srsly! and yes im diminishing the achievment of the title winners, i dont think ferguson has had to do nearly as much to (nearly) win this as he did in say 06/07 or 08/09

citeh havent imploded at all, they have been declining gradually for about six months and it's got as much to do with tactical entropy as mind games, tevez, balotelli and all that

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 9 April 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

Well, United were thoroughly pushed until the last few weeks - it's not like the title was sown up in January. The one point where I'd agree with you is that all the top teams are weaker this season, and United have got to this point by being more efficient than everyone else against the lesser teams. But that's still them positively winning it - City would have had to have been absolutely fucking stellar to match United's run over the last three months.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Monday, 9 April 2012 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

they have lost ten points vs sunderland, stoke and swansea in that time, i dont think winning those would make citeh somehow stellar

it would have been pretty impressive, sure, which would describe utd since january, but then that followed a period when they lost at home to blackburn and were thoroughly sonned by newcastle

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 9 April 2012 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

i dont think ferguson has had to do nearly as much to (nearly) win this as he did in say 06/07 or 08/09

06/07 yes - very strong Chelsea team that had broken all records, United had to hit the ground running and keep it going all the way
08/09 not really - iirc United started poorly then drifted towards the top on the back of a strong defence and overcame a Liverpool team that didn't really look all that good until (ironically) they had dropped to second place

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 9 April 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i was a bit unsure of that after i posted it, city will probably end up with around the same number of points liverpool did that season

the last few weeks will have something to say, it united avoid defeat against city and run up a solid 8+ point differential that will be a p good achievement

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 9 April 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

they will however be disappointed if they are to be beaten by a proud etihad outfit who will know what beating ferguson's men means to their faithful

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 9 April 2012 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

been a bit of a mishmash today huh

Hotel released us btw

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Monday, 9 April 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

Adriano?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 April 2012 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/8JoBJ.jpg

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 9 April 2012 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

King looking dreadful today. We're going to choke this.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 9 April 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

updates pls!

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Monday, 9 April 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

norwich denied a blatant pen, spurs go down the other end and equalise.

Chris, Monday, 9 April 2012 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

Just watching the BBC ticker - a strong penalty claim? We've had a fair few turned down this season, but also been lucky Holt's busy, busy hands haven't cost us more so I'll probably not moan too much...

CraigG, Monday, 9 April 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

love to see nakh defending the ring against all comers, esp otm wrt 'piecemeal empiricists' & city's decline vs myth of implosion

ogmor, Monday, 9 April 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

decent penalty claim, lovely pass from livermore and a delightful defoe chip

mizzell, Monday, 9 April 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

wait they'd scored?

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Monday, 9 April 2012 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs pretty shocking defensively, the Norwich goal was a double-clanger and I fear we're watching Ledley's last season, his composure has gone completely and neither centreback could deal with Grant Holt at all. Now Kaboul's injured and we have a potentially horrifying King-Nelsen pairing at the back.

Modric can't take corners for shit. Our best hope is that Norwich overcommit and/or get knackered. Maybe need Sandro on as well as Livermore.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 9 April 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

lovely finish from defoe though

Chris, Monday, 9 April 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

Urgh. Another penalty shout for Norwich, then Spurs hit the crossbar, according to my trusty BBC feed.

CraigG, Monday, 9 April 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

norwich take the lead

mizzell, Monday, 9 April 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

nice strike from bennett

mizzell, Monday, 9 April 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

Wooooo

CraigG, Monday, 9 April 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

If you did a recent form table for the Prem how low down would City, Spurs and Liverpool be? (I assume Wolves would be bottom)

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool 2nd from bottom iirc, would guess spurs around 13th.

mizzell, Monday, 9 April 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

Coming into the game today, Spurs only won 3 of the last 10 (and 4 draws I think it was - was checking against Norwich's W-D-L of 3-2-5).

CraigG, Monday, 9 April 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

Newcastle have scored so are now level on points with Spurs, as it stands. If Chelsea win their game in hand they'll all be on 59.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

i'm doing charity work i dont deserve this ffs

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Massive massive slow choke going on here. This could turn out to be worse than the lasagne season.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Really good run by Ben Arfa for that goal.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

and now Cisse has sealed the points. Oh, Bolton.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

Taking off Livermore was dumb as well, we've given up any pretence of winning the ball in the middle of the park.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

ffs Spurs, I'm at Arsenal-Chelsea in a couple of weeks, at least make them stretch themselves

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 April 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

It's not just the players - Redknapp's making so many infuriating mistakes as a manager.

Eight minutes until he's on TV telling a reporter it's a game we could have won and that we killed them in the second half.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

goal shy everton have put 4 past well organized sunderland.

mizzell, Monday, 9 April 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck's sake. Think we'll finish fifth now. Overall performance was so unbelievably poor, not to mention naive and stupid.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

spurs expects that england expects arry to do his duty

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

Lol Spurs. Newcastle are going to finish 4th aren't they?

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea'll get fourth ffs. Day of consolidation for Liverpool.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 April 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

dont be silly, chelsea will

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 9 April 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah because Chelsea are so much better than Newcastle? -_-

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 9 April 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

The Chelsea v Newcastle fourth-place play-off (2nd May) is currently on general sale, oddly

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 April 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

i quite like fulham's chances to beat chelsea today.
harry said he needed five more victories to wrap up fourth. he has five games left.

mizzell, Monday, 9 April 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

This is just about the grimmest fixture possible

to think I was saying this in advance of Stoke-Wolves on Saturday; little did I realise what was coming up next

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 April 2012 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

cozen otm

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 9 April 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea have it in them to shift up a gear if they want, I think Newcastle are basically operating at their peak now and, good as they are, I doubt they'll come through games against Chelsea, City and Everton away with nine points.

*Really* need Arsenal to beat Chelsea now.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 9 April 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/beer-bottle-thrown-at-arsenal-s-wojciech-szczesny-from-crowd-who-

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 April 2012 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

Potential for future lols:

Nasri said on Twitter: “I'm aware what I said about titles. I'm sure I will lift a trophy with Man City before AFC [win anything]

“And [to] all the Arsenal fans, move on. [City are] 10points ahead of you. Just support your team and forget about me.”

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 April 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

has potential to be one of the best lols in the country by 2014

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 April 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

oh shit, I can watch fulham v chelsea since it's not on at 7 in the g-d morning this time

Silky Slim (dan m), Monday, 9 April 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

wow, didn't realize dempsey was 5th overall in goals

Silky Slim (dan m), Monday, 9 April 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

I had no idea. That is impressive.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 April 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

add one more!

Silky Slim (dan m), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

Beautiful header.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

h8 lamps, <3 deuce

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

I hope they let Dempsey keep that, but Cahill's butt push was incredibly well timed.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

I'll take that. Good performances from Frei and Dembele (who I thought was rubbish on sat. despite the result).

kid steel (cajunsunday), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

Dempsey is having an incredible season.

The prospect of it being Martin Jol who denies Spurs a CL place on the last day of the season is now ver y real. But I'll take that Chelsea result.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 9 April 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

It's nice to have at least one race where teams can drop points and keep you guessing

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 April 2012 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

we could wish for a virus to decimate the man utd first team, but even then we know that some 16-year-old striker would inexplicably do a sterling job filling in at centre back.

Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Monday, 9 April 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

It's true. They have broken football, like Barcelona only not in a good way.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 April 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

Let it go, IK, you're one of us now

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 9 April 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

yow at ben arfa's goal, even if it was 80% surprising people by just running fast in a straight line.

Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Monday, 9 April 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

Brilliant from Ben Arthur.

To answer my own question from earlier, form table since mid-Feb has Liverpool second-bottom (P7 Pts 4) and Spurs third-bottom (P8 Pts 6).

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 9 April 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

A game in hand, eh?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 April 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

I could see us getting within a point of them.

Ben Arfa stepping up at this stage of the season is a big surprise; I thought he was supposed to a bottler?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 April 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

supposed to be a bottler

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 April 2012 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

The touch before the finish was really nice. Spurs and Chelsea finishing behind Arsenal and Newcastle (looks quite possible if Chelsea are as fatigued as they're suggesting) really would make my season.

Looks like I'm back to lolling at and feeling sorry for Spurs again. Loathing didn't last long.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 9 April 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea still have to play Barca twice. Losing 14-0 on agg won't be good for morale.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

yeah their schedule is a doozy, it's practically 3 games a week

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

Newcastle still have Man City (H), Everton, Chelsea (both A) in their final 3 games. I don't think they'll finish top 4. Chelsea having Arsenal (A) in between their Barca fixtures is good for Spurs. Spurs' run-in is not horrendous if they recover a bit of form.

I keep getting the terrors whenever I sense 10 minutes into a match that Ledley's having a forgotten-how-to-defend game again. Gallas-Kaboul protected by Sandro & Parker if possible, asap, please God.

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

wouldn't trust Sandro to protect a damn thing going on his performance v Sunderland

I was at WHL today - it was my mate's birthday and he somehow blagged a box - so while I enjoyed free cheesecake and Peroni that was about it. way too much trying to walk it in or just plain not wanting to shoot, way too many high balls towards Defoe where his challenger(s) were five or six inches taller than him, Saha and Adebayor p much didn't turn up

Norwich are not an impressive or threatening side at all in the main and were happy to just hoof it upfield to, effectively, gain yards a lot of the time - they play to their strengths and with organisation and thus deserved to win against a side which did neither of those things

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Monday, 9 April 2012 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

not that impressed with the ben arfa goal myself. nice finish but the defending was laughable, ran half the length of the pitch unchallenged. goal of the season my arse.

Chris, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 00:09 (thirteen years ago)

ok, not completely unchallenged, but still. i mean he's no charlie adam for goodness sake.

Chris, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 00:18 (thirteen years ago)

Jonathan Wilson on Gerrard contains this gem:

the injury to Lucas Leiva who, remarkably, has still made more tackles than anybody else in the Liverpool squad this season despite having been injured since November

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

obviously not counting fouls cf adam

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

Fouls committed per match: Holt 2.5, Fellaini / Tiote 2.4, Song 2.2, Tim Cahill / Adam 2.1, Cattermole / Ngog 2.0, Balotelli 1.9, Kevin Davies 1.8

boxall, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

yet he hasn't fuckin time to update the ffl

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

Ha yeah that takes some actual calculation, this site does all the stats for you.

boxall, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

that was...quite good

Number None, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

they should play this Maxi guy more

Number None, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

D'ohni

Number None, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

this is hilarious stuff. Yakubu with one of the worst penalties you'll ever see

Number None, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

Wilson's Gerrard theory looking solider by the second

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

Flanagan (he should be off as well btw) manages to play even more gormlessly than he looks

Number None, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

Eh what? I couldn't imagine this'd be worth watching, serves me right.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

this is hilarious stuff. Yakubu with one of the worst penalties you'll ever see

Graham Taylor (on five live) said Yakubu might as well have just picked up the ball and given it to the keeper

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:32 (thirteen years ago)

oh yes, this has potential

Number None, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

I mean Kenny could resign tonight

Number None, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

Doni's out of the semi too now. We're one professional foul away from putting Enrique in goal at Wembley.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

What a half. How silly of me to think that at 2-0 we'd actually manage to see the game out without a fuss. Maxi though, what a guy.

Chris, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

Brad Friedel has a pleasant hybrid accent

Number None, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:54 (thirteen years ago)

Ach, the penalty was just rubbish, not in the Nevin class at all.

Quite the pass from Skrtel for the first. Maxi's a class act.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

good lord

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

it's the game of the season in some category or other

Number None, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

*two* professional fouls away

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

Cracking game

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

so close

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

worth every penny

we are not bemused (onimo), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

NEVER IN DOUBT

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

Good grief

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

Lancashire bragging rights assured

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

he actually had one his better games tbf

Number None, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

few signings in the summer and this side could threaten the top two next year imo

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

as long as they can hold on to hoilett

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

heh

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

get in, made up with that. what a game.

Chris, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

no (additional) ban for Balotelli btw

boxall, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

the absence of mcleish is gnawing away at this thread's entrails, chris

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

he's on his way.

Chris, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

its like an advent calendar, but the jovial red faced man never arrives

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7106/6919686716_0518b89947_z.jpg

Chris, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

looool

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7129/6919695164_c0c98b2fb9_c.jpg

Chris, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

That first one should be on his wikipedia entry

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

first one reminds me of that big sam lolling gif

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

yeah chris if you're prepared to give these a creative commons license and forgo the potential revenues that they might incur, the first one would look right good on his wiki page

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

i'll zoom right in for ya...

Chris, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

this is your 'competition', fwiw

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Alex_McLeish-1.JPG/220px-Alex_McLeish-1.JPG

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

lol

Chris, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7236/6919811412_3b1d3ce08e_z.jpg

Chris, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=26382038

michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

hope it was worth the wait

Chris, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

look, it's ilf favourite stephen warnock. 10 points to the first person to correctly identify the bloke in the suit walking around the egde of the pitch.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5272/6919850638_2f5804dfa7_c.jpg

Chris, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

that would be the barcelona cantera's second most successful recent goalkeeping prodigy?

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

correct!

Chris, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:11 (thirteen years ago)

he looks sad there

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

http://h9.abload.de/img/untitled-5a5xqj.gif

Number None, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:20 (thirteen years ago)

alrite ppl, check eck's wiki page again

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:22 (thirteen years ago)

stephen warnock's page already has two fairly good photos, and it's not really lengthy enough to provide space for a third

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:32 (thirteen years ago)

huh Brad Jones is 30, I had thought he was early-mid twenties. It must take a peculiar mentality to be satisfied with a career floating around never really doing much besides sitting on the bench as the reward for your ~years of hard work and sacrifices~.

michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 00:47 (thirteen years ago)

big pay cheque probably helps matters.

michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 00:47 (thirteen years ago)

alrite ppl, check eck's wiki page again

lols. prematch bonhomie! love it.

Chris, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 03:14 (thirteen years ago)

my pleasure!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Br%C3%BCckner

dude deserves a better photo for getting the czech rep to the semifinal of euro 2004

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 03:39 (thirteen years ago)

We need to campaign to have all instances of #banter changed to #bonhomie.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 05:59 (thirteen years ago)

Is it true that the FA have refused to rescind the red card for the QPR defender and to punish Balotelli for attempted GBH? If so, what explanations did they give?

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 11:23 (thirteen years ago)

idk the balotelli red wouldn't have happened if he had been correctly sent off earlier....possibly not applicable to all of criminal justice but it has some sense

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 11:25 (thirteen years ago)

in that reading, sending off a deranged player is a merciful act that prevents them from further censure incurred from later episodes of violence

like if pepe had just been sent off for being a shitkicking moron 20 minutes into every game, he would never have had to the chance to be punished for jumping on that dudes head

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

to

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

also prophylactic pregame red cards for cattermole and bardsley every derby game

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

balotelli, fa only applies retrospective sanction if it's an off the ball incident unseen by officials, ie no "re-refereeing"

derry, by the above guidelines they cannot re-referee the offside call therefore the sanction applies solely to derry's delicate caress "preventing a goalscoring opportunity". also corruption

r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

is there any logical explanation as to why jones wasnt sent off yesterday cos i'm not seeing it

r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

Ball travelling to a Liverpool player, so says Steve Keen.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

eh, even the yak would have easily got there ahead of coates

r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 12:17 (thirteen years ago)

Would need to watch again to be honest...

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

fuck the fa forever btw

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

watched it a few times and i think a yellow was the right decision for the Jones challenge

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/swan-dive-repeat.gif

r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, we know. Not giving the offside was the real crime though

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

I had a football dream last night where someone kept tugging my shirt about that much - enough to piss me off so I kept making mistakes but not enough to knock me over. So a definite red card imo :)

Same game also had really low crossbars, like 3 inches above the height of the ball, and an uneven surface - meaning I managed to hit the crossbar three times in succession while through on an open goal :(

I think my subconscious is telling me life is rigged.

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

Paronia over refereeing decisions and tendency to hit the woodwork frequently? Come on down to Anfield mate we'll give you a run out.

pandemic, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/apr/11/derry-ivanovic-balotelli-fa?cat=football&type=article

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/kenjuggle3/fergie.jpg

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan looking really good so far. I'm calling it: 3-0 to Utd.

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

Shouldn't be a pen AND a red for Bassong but Wolves are a lucky side these days.

This could be a big score, Wolves w/ 10 men for 80 minutes.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

2-0 (rvi pen, theo a minute later.)

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

if you're gonna get relegated go down in style imo

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

going down so fast you might skip a division

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

classiest fann i've seen in a while: behind the wolves goal is a blonde mum with her kids chanting "theo walcott, you're a wanker" and doing the wanker hand sign with one and sticking her middle fingers up with the other. her kids just looked at her confused.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

<3 it when the qpr fans get in full panto mode and just boo the opposition constantly for no reason other than them being the opposition

r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

Phil Dowd just booked a Wigan player for waving an imaginary card. Utd all over the place

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

Rooney giving away a dangerous free kick at left back. It's always a risk, switching a full back.

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

Jonny Evans red looks a good bet

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

De Gea dominated there

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

seriously bullshit decision there against Wigan

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

can't disagree

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

refs association evening it up for us, good lads

r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

joeyyyyyyyyy!

r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

i've always loved that man you know

r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

sky pundits tonight are djibril cisse and mick mccarthy. bet they've been having a good natter

r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

BBC reporting that Baggies fans are chanting "Carlos Tevez, he eats what he wants!" :)

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

brilliant from Wigan

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:54 (thirteen years ago)

well, brilliant from Maloney but still. Wigan!

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

lovely goal. title race back on

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

Wee Shaun is brilliant, it might be crucial for Wigan that he gets his annual month of fitness at the business end of the season.

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

CONSPIRACY. Wigan score from non-corner

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:58 (thirteen years ago)

gonna have to get Nani on and hope for some magic

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

Something's got to be done about these refs.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

I bet the FA will look at it tomorrow and say "it wasn't a corner but there's nothing we can do about it now."

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

mackieeeeee

r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

Taking out Maloney without being booked is a Thing these days eh?

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

stream just died was that a hand ball in Wigan box?

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

The conspiracy continues!

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

bbc. worst text feed of games EVER

PSOD (Ste), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

GET INVOLVED

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

cheerio leon britton, subbed the fuck off

r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

Having Valencia get the ball wide and run into the crowded middle seems like the worst use of Valencia.

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

OHHHH AKOS YOU BEAUTY WHAT A HIT SON

r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

Sounds like Wigan are more likely to score than United

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan looking really good. Phil Jones clearly injured is a bonus. Man U will score 6 goals in the next 9 minutes.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan are beginning to forget how to defend. 5 minutes of Fergietime.

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

Five Minutes of extra time in Wigan match. Gotta give Man U every chance they can.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

Apart from the penalty

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, and the corner-kick that wasn't. then again, Wigan's unfairly disallowed goal so...

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

So it all evens out

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

just like fergie said

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

Well, well, well.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

Tonight keeps things interesting for a wee while longer. I think the only cemented place in the league is 20th.

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

I suppose Villa have 15th all but wrapped up.

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

Looks like the title race is back on then. [trying to keep straight face]

kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

This was pretty bad for Bolton but it was a good game and it makes the title race something approaching a race for a few days at least.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

Happy with that, wouldn't be wanting to get complacent now

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, if Wolves don't get their act together soon they're going to have to face the very real prospect of getting sucked into a relegation dogfight.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

(er, multiple xp)

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

a Championship relegation dogfight

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

maybe we shd get 10 points for our fabulous book-keeping, like the opposite of going into administration.

we'd still go down, like.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

looking forward to the lads in the Express and Star tomorrow telling us it's not over yet and they're still fighting

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

fao deems

mcgeady >>>>>>>>>>>> doyle

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

Doyle was good at one time. McGeady has never been good

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

in soviet russia, mcgeady is good

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

Doyle just seems to have had enough this season, I still think he's capable of a lot more in a better team

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

very clever nakh

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

doyle is alright

37 in 155 epl games

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

maybe his indirect productivity like running the channels, chasing lost causes, stretching defences is a bit overvalued, cuz he does do a lot of work but idk if it outweighs the poor scoring record

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

this season he has the look of a guy who's not gonna roll that giant boulder up the hill just to watch it roll down the other side again anymore

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

and if he was playing in a team capable of capitalising on all that work you cd see the value more clearly

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

he's definitely looked like his heart's not in it the last while for Ireland. McGeady is as frustrating as ever

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

mcgeady is fairly good, tho i do probably overvalue any uk/ireland player with nice technique

crap record for ireland but he doesnt fit the team at all

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

Dunphy championed him for a long time cos he was the only Irish player with any technical ability but even he's not bothering any more

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

there are a few with reasonable technique but mcgeady probably a smidgen above them

what happened to the scottish kid at wigan? was he playing tonight

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

james mccarthy i think is his name but i always spell mac/mc/mcc wrong

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

Both McCarthy and McArthur were both excellent for Wigan tonight. McCarthy's nascent Ireland career is already a long and tedious saga

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

fao nakh- doyle at everton will one in two it, his heart's not been in it for ireland since trap bizarrely attacked him last year and nv otm about wolves

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

90% of Ireland-based football conversations now revolve around Trappatoni's text-messaging habits

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

id fancy irelands chances better with jimmy m in a 433, not that it would be hugely incisive but even just to manage a bit of possession so the phrase heroic rearguard action isnt used before halftime

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

kinda want to do a "your mum likes a heroic rearguard action" joke here just because it's structurally pleasing

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

Go for it

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

your mum is clive tyldesley?

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

ITS FINISHED says Mancini...ok didnt expect him to say that

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

Hansen says Utd should have had two penalties. CONSPIRACY

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

Martin Keown has a terrifying neck

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

City need to start Tevez every match now

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

"there was contact, a touch, a coming together, a tangle of legs"

jesus stfu pearce

r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

madness upthread, mcgeady is shit

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

and he doesn't have good technique either, all he can do is an occasional barnstorming dribble... can't pass, can't shoot, can't cross.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

piecemeal empiricism at its worst

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

mcgeady is shit

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

forgot to say, he lacks personality to the extent he makes mcshane look like keano

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

I'm still making my mind up with Aiden. It's weird having the most skilful player in the country yet being kind of pleased someone took an expensive punt on him. I think he'd make a great Valencia but tries too hard to be a Jinky.

A frustrating talent, but not as frustrating as Georgios Samaras.

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 23:35 (thirteen years ago)

The stadium managers sought to reinforce that message as before kick-off Loftus Road's giant screen showed Al Pacino's famous motivational speech from the film Any Given Sunday.

r|t|c, Thursday, 12 April 2012 01:11 (thirteen years ago)

thing is man city didn't win it, united imploded

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 12 April 2012 02:39 (thirteen years ago)

snap

mcgeady is shit btw. a gap in the team, unless one of his curiously ballooned crosses is dropped by an albanian postal clerk or w/e

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 April 2012 08:13 (thirteen years ago)

commolli leaves lfc

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 April 2012 10:00 (thirteen years ago)

if this means Dalglish pushing for more control of the football side of things then this can only mean lols or heartbreak, depending on which shirt you wear

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 April 2012 10:02 (thirteen years ago)

surely surely this is dalglish's dying swing.

The theory behind DOF is sound, but there are no coaches in english football, only managers.

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 April 2012 10:18 (thirteen years ago)

I'd rather they kept Commoli and hired Unai Emery (if Valencia's fans run him out of town)

pandemic, Thursday, 12 April 2012 10:22 (thirteen years ago)

Taking the fall for the Andy Carroll signing.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Thursday, 12 April 2012 10:45 (thirteen years ago)

Except that Dalglish explicitly stated this morning that he himself identified every single player Commolli signed.

we are not bemused (onimo), Thursday, 12 April 2012 11:14 (thirteen years ago)

DOF is a great idea, it is just Commolli sucks. He has, what, two successes to his name? (finding us kolo toure when he was a shitty right midfielder and i guess berbatov to spurs?).

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 12 April 2012 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez is a good footballer.

we are not bemused (onimo), Thursday, 12 April 2012 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3326/3274342549_2105bd78c5.jpg

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 12 April 2012 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah but its not exactly a successful signing for Liverpool. Guy who spends half the season not playing and bringing down the reputation of the club.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 12 April 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

definitive list of commolli signings is tough to compile, tbh.

If g bale was loaned out to forest two years ago he'd be a commolli failure too by now, non?

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 April 2012 11:47 (thirteen years ago)

thats hardly his fault, at any other team suarez would have been told to do a mea culpa statement, the press would be briefed that he was unaware of local decorum and he might have got a two or three game ban, the decision to introduce a race war element to the liverpool persecution complex wasnt exactly comolli's

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 12 April 2012 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

comolli was probably decisive in signing bale and modric and for that all his minor failures can be forgiven

darren bent was sold at or near the price paid

i think it's pretty clear that dalglish was the biggest determinant of last summer's transfer policy

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 12 April 2012 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

be interesting to see if fsg appoint another dof and what happens structurally

Chris, Thursday, 12 April 2012 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

couple of tweets appear to be suggesting there may be more news today

Chris, Thursday, 12 April 2012 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

seems that peter brukner head of sports science has gone too. more departures to follow apparently.

Chris, Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

because you didnt have a head of sports science when kenny was last successful, he feels like such modern nonsense is holding them back

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

brukner was a purslow appointment, guessing they want their own people in.

Chris, Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

Btw don't know if it was mentioned up thread but Lucas still leading the LFC stats for 'tackles made' this season when he hasn't played since NOVEMBER is a disgreaceful indictment of the rest of our shambles of a midfield.

pandemic, Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

disgraceful eben

pandemic, Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

EVEN FFS

pandemic, Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

where's a good place to see league stats?

think i read somewhere alejandro faurlin was leading the tackles chart months after doing his cruciates

r|t|c, Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/2/Seasons/2935/Stages/5476/PlayerStatistics/England-Premier-League-2011-2012

according to this he still is...? can't even find lucas on there though

r|t|c, Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

bullshit stat anyway tbh

r|t|c, Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

Lucas isn't on that list because he didn't play enough matches to qualify, you can see his stats if you look at Liverpool individually tho. Tackles + interceptions probably a better measure of effectiveness.

boxall, Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

I got the Lucas stat from Jonathon Wilson's 'Are LFC better off without Gerrard' column from earlier in the week. It was total # of tackles won.
xp

pandemic, Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

adebayor's stats are noteworthy for being p much exactly what you'd expect.

Upt0eleven, Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

i could've told you that

really hope we don't sign him permanently, get a centre forward who wants to be a centre forward instead

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

We're much better with Adebayor in the team, but lately he's been dropping deeper and deeper. Better than Saha at any rate.

But he's clearly going to Liverpool. Reckon he'd give up after a few months of a permanent deal anyway.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

he's given up after a few non-permanent ones with us at any rate

bale LEFT lennon COVERED adebayor GET UP THERE AND JUMP YOU CLOWN how hard can coaching be, really?

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

toandos wrote this on thread Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12 on board I Love Everything on Mar 24, 2012

kenny goes before comolli

lol

fart bucket (toandos), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/s5jJv5UBslfWCN7UW24NA7A/view.m?id=15&gid=football/2012/apr/12/hillsborough-battle-orgreave&cat=football
Conn on South Yorkshire Police at Orgreave and Hillsborough

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 12 April 2012 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

The idea that Cryuff or Van Gaal would want to be DOF at Liverpool seems far fetched to me. Can't see them getting on with KD, although perhaps that's the idea.

pandemic, Friday, 13 April 2012 08:12 (thirteen years ago)

won't matter by june 1st tbf

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Friday, 13 April 2012 08:16 (thirteen years ago)

looks like fsg haven't a clue what they're doing

r|t|c, Friday, 13 April 2012 08:38 (thirteen years ago)

They were bounced into giving Dalglish the job full-time after a great second half of last season, but now he's pretty much unsackable and they're flapping by taking out everyone else.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 13 April 2012 09:02 (thirteen years ago)

Don't really get the idea he's unsackable tbh.

pandemic, Friday, 13 April 2012 09:04 (thirteen years ago)

i don't think he's unsackable but he does seem to have inordinate influence with FSG

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 April 2012 09:15 (thirteen years ago)

he didn't have to be given the job in the summer and he's eminently sackable now- there is no problem here.

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Friday, 13 April 2012 10:41 (thirteen years ago)

he won't be "sacked" though, will he?

Upt0eleven, Friday, 13 April 2012 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

There'd be uproar among the fans and I'm not sure Henry wants to by That Guy. OTOH if Liverpool aren't in the CL at the end of next season he probably won't care any more.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 13 April 2012 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

probably not- tbf to him i'm not sure that would be a problem, either

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Friday, 13 April 2012 11:11 (thirteen years ago)

are there any fans that would really get all UPROAR now? kenny is one of the worst managers in the league atm and if their best players (lucas and suarez) leave for a european league top half team then they are p screwed.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 13 April 2012 11:33 (thirteen years ago)

You don't understand football fans. Kevin Keegan was a worse manager and that didn't stop Newcastle fans baying for Ashley's blood after he was sacked. Longstanding club heroes are just different.

I suspect privately there's some kind of agreement whereby Kenny will stand aside if they don't make the CL next season, with Henry giving him probably saner financial backing. Suarez and Lucas aren't really showing any signs of wanting to leave from what I can see.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 13 April 2012 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

if

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Friday, 13 April 2012 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

it's very hard to see this squad with this manager finishing top 4, or will it be 3 since we sucked at Europe this year?

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 April 2012 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

false analogy there with keegan, he hadnt nearly shown himself up like kenny has and there were loads of mitigating circumstances to point to like the cockney mafia unilaterally signing xisco and random uruguayan dudes and whatnot

r|t|c, Friday, 13 April 2012 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

think kenny will stay purely because cos i don't think there's a candidate to replace him right now that would make it look like progress rather than starting again from square one

save maybe idk... o'neill? or rafa just as the pointless new kenny.

villas-boas was probably the right man last summer, now too tarnished

r|t|c, Friday, 13 April 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

cruyff and van gaal would be far better ideas as managers not dofs tbh

r|t|c, Friday, 13 April 2012 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

cruyff has accepted a deal in principle, so says twitter. if cruyff does come then who takes care of the contract negotioations and admin side of things, which i believe was part of comolli's job. does cruyff have a law degree? do you get someone else in as well? i mean if you're after a figurehead who's going to ensure there's a philosophy and style of play running through the club then wouldn't it make sense to either move dalglish upstairs or promote the academy directors who were brought in to establish that continuity in the first place and who know the blueprint better than anybody?

Chris, Friday, 13 April 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

loooooool cryuff will be a massive disaster, i'm calling it

total football visions with jay spearing and stewart downing and king kenny

will be a revolt come november

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 13 April 2012 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

didnt rafa steal a bunch of the guys who were in the barca youth set-up, which is why the pool kids are doing p well now? cryuff will come in and fuck around with that because he is cryuff and he was very good at stuff 40/20 years ago

i just dont see it working on any level

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 13 April 2012 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

your shrill "predictions" are repetitive and tiresome.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Friday, 13 April 2012 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

anyway i read today that apparently david dein been in the stand with fsg at a few recent games.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Friday, 13 April 2012 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

just like cryuff's yearly revolts at ajax amirite

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 13 April 2012 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

If this is true, I don't see how it would necessarily be a disaster, Dalglish clearly isn't all about lumpen big men, he's kept on playing genuinely talented and skillful players like Suarez and Enrique all season. Dunno, if Cruyff can sort the midfield, get them a striker and carry on developing the youth team it could work.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 13 April 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

how and why would cruyff fuck up a barca-fied youth system having fathered it at barca in the first place?? probably the one and only thing i couldnt see going wrong

r|t|c, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

because football has moved on? he also fathered the ajax set-up and they think he doesn't add anything positive anymore and try to keep him away.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 13 April 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

"There are drastic measures necessary. I made a clear plan but my vision is not shared by those who should execute it," said Cruyff.

"What Johan wanted to do for Ajax's youth department was going too fast for me. I am not so dissatisfied with how things are going now," said Van Basten.

r|t|c, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

and havent ajax been doing so well in recent years to stick with the status quo after all

they are a shambles

r|t|c, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

xxp i'm sure kenny isnt as lumpen as the stereotype but i can't quite figure him seeing eye to eye with cruyff on either philosophically

besides that they are both dominant stubborn big man legends and idk if cruyff really does backseat the way fsg are probably thinking

dein would probably be a smart move if a bit cognitively dissonant idk

r|t|c, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

are the liv kids really all that btw? like, actually break into the first team good? non-bobblehead answers appreciated

i know a norwich fan who raves about ayala btw

r|t|c, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

ajax having to sell any players that start to look good cant help

i dont think anyone in football knows how to sort this out. having the best youth team in the world at any given time doesnt hurt though.

dein i dont have a read on. when he was good, he was the best. but also he is a massive ego and is prone to very stupid mistakes and needs people to reign him in. if they could get cryuff to do the football side and dein to be the business guy (and they could fit both of their egos into one room), it could be a hell of a partnership.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 13 April 2012 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

i get a strong 'arry/venables "friends in high fleet street places" vibe with dein and never know whether to believe the hype

henry was pretty distraught when dein left wasnt he, not that his say should amount to anything

r|t|c, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

i mean if you're after a figurehead who's going to ensure there's a philosophy and style of play running through the club then wouldn't it make sense to either move dalglish upstairs or promote the academy directors who were brought in to establish that continuity in the first place and who know the blueprint better than anybody?

― Chris, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:52 (38 minutes ago) Bookmark

seems to me like this is the most sensible way of sorting it

r|t|c, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

are the liv kids really all that btw? like, actually break into the first team good? non-bobblehead answers appreciated

aren't they already starting to make it? kelly has overtaken johnson, spearing isn't useless, a couple are starting to make the bench (flanigan and robinson)

there are a couple guys who get mentioned like they could become big things - sterling obv and a couple other names from the kiddy cl run.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 13 April 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

Sterling, Suso, Adorjan and Wisdom all could come through imo - though I thought the same about Pacheco :(

Stevie T, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

Flanagan did put in possibly the worst defensive performance season the other night in fairness to the lad

Number None, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

yeah wisdom looks good

would bet against sterling making it but i'm not quite sure why really

r|t|c, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

getting a bit of a Ravel Morrison vibe from Sterling

Number None, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

xposts. it's 4231, possession-based, and they press. they play with a traditional number 10. they're very good to watch. always hard to tell which youngsters are going to make it, no matter how good they look at youth level, but they're very good teams in the true sense of the word. there are a few who look very promising and different to the type of kids we've produced in the past - you can see the impact the barca guys have had on them. i mean i can't think of any spearing-type players there, coady sits and lets the forwards get on with it, there's a lad in the U18s who's very alonso-esque. you can never really tell with kids, but i'd say you've got a better chance of unearthing someone if the teams 'play the right way' from an early age and are surrounded by players who've been learning the system from day one. doesn't help that the 1st team hven't been playing a pressing, possession-based 4231 this season but nevermind.

Chris, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

yeah p sure spearing is useless tbh

he will grace nakhchivan's dream team midfield alongside cattermole for years to come i'm sure

r|t|c, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

Shelvey was actually looking pretty decent in the "Gerrard role" before it all fell apart against Blackburn

Number None, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

xp sterling's not a bad boy i don't think but erm yeah, seems lightweight in temperament shall we say

find it hard to take shelvey srsly

r|t|c, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

Mancini just added another "football is strange" to his collection on SSN.

He's been a bit odd this week - refusing to concede the title at 8 points/6 games then saying it's all over at 5 points/5 games. I think he's probably just fed up being asked.

we are not bemused (onimo), Friday, 13 April 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

it's either gallows humour or the die hard with a vengeance "just pretend ur crazy" method

not sure jose would have agreed anything already so probs the latter

r|t|c, Friday, 13 April 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

He's all set to bring back Balotelli in the last game to score the goal that wins them the title.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 13 April 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

getting a bit of a Ravel Morrison vibe from Sterling

― Number None, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:40 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hoping this post comes up on all future velvet underground searches

Ward Fowler, Friday, 13 April 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

(xposted from the MLS thread, feel free to SB me for spamming if you like)

http://www.xiquarterly.com/

a couple of friends are wrapped up in trying to start a quarterly north american soccer mag in the vein (I think) of the blizzard. in the interests of good taste I'll skip posting the direct kickstarter link but take a look at their page and decide for yourself if you think it'd be cool.

Silky Slim (dan m), Friday, 13 April 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

So the Bebe transfer is under investigation. I can't think why - if ever there was a transfer that no right-thinking person would consider dodgy, this was it.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 13 April 2012 23:12 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/13/article-2129512-1289D331000005DC-331_634x412.jpg

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 13 April 2012 23:22 (thirteen years ago)

i've seen lfc youth teams a few times lately and nobody shone except for one big lad up front whose finishing was spectacularly inept. Relying on youth messiahs is well and good but there are good players in the first xi right now that aren't being managed to anything like potential.

Hyped british wonderkids, what's the actual success rate there since say utd's 95 team?

Would be a good xi with cadamarteri obv leading the line, i dunno but joe cole doesn't get a game with bentley tbh

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Friday, 13 April 2012 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

you must have caught them on bad days my friend ;) success rate since 95 isn't great, but the ones who are coming through now are good enough to at least fill the squad out and provide decent back up, ya spearing, kelly type players, and it's still too early to evaluate just how successful the 2009 overhaul was. not saying they're all good enough to start at wembley tomorrow, but the building blocks are very much in place, and there's lots to be optimistic about.

Chris, Saturday, 14 April 2012 00:08 (thirteen years ago)

Right, off to West Bromwich. The Roy Hodgson-Mark Hughes tactical battle is one that promises scintillating football in every area of the pitch.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Saturday, 14 April 2012 10:20 (thirteen years ago)

Hyped british wonderkids, what's the actual success rate there since say utd's 95 team?

hyped i'd say a rough 50-50 split? for the west ham vintage you have the hyped up man city kids who came up under stuart pearce. an ashley young for a delfounso. wilshere for jet. bale and aoc for victor moses. etc.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 14 April 2012 10:41 (thirteen years ago)

pick out the players there that were hyped from youth teams, tho, cf sterling. I'm not talking players that break into full teams while young, that's kinda almost the opposite of the pacheco syndrome i'm referencing

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 April 2012 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

Lolled pretty hard at the Cruijff to L'pool rumour. Never going to happen. He'll only work for Barca and Ajax, and lives far too pleasantly in Barcelona to go to Liverpool.

Other than that, it would indeed be disaster. Cruijff wants to either work like a dictator, or not at all (and why not, if he's in the position to desire this). He's not flexible and doesn't tolerate other opinions. He'd be gone before you can say 'Liverpool won't be on dis ting '12-'13'.

Van Gaal though, I could see him do it. Equally despotic but more up for a challenge.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 14 April 2012 11:01 (thirteen years ago)

Looking ahead to what will happen at the end of the season, Connor said: "We will all sit down, assess what has gone on over the course of the season and discuss the last 13 games.

"The club will find their path for the future and, if that's with me, fine. If not, I accept that as well."

STFU YOU FUCKING IDIOT

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

idk seems like a reasonable answer

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 April 2012 11:35 (thirteen years ago)

the reasonable answer wd have been "Clearly I am shit and incapable of transforming this terrible squad into a functional football team, and I will be going into a hot bath to open my veins as soon as the season finishes. I can fully understand why the supporters want me as far away as possible from the fucking shell of a club I've helped to create and I promise to never, ever work in football ever again."

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

you're too harsh on managers imo

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 April 2012 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

it's not so much managers as managers who were previously assistant managers and logically bear every bit as much blame for the team's ineptitude as the gormless twat they were working alongside until 8 games ago

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 11:42 (thirteen years ago)

and then have the fucking gall to beg to be kept on at the club they've fucked up as if it's perfectly reasonable and everybody wd be cool with it

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

maybe, just every now and then, an apology and an admission might be in order

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

wouldn't serve any use from him, and wouldn't serve any use without a resignation, which wouldn't help at this stage

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 April 2012 11:47 (thirteen years ago)

it wouldn't hurt either

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

staunton dilemma, imo. shouldn't have taken the job, can't blame him for doing so, must hate him for doing so, complex imo

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 April 2012 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

i'm just kinda disgusted that it's been left to drift to this whimpering, hilarious exit. Morgan and Moxey are quite rightly getting just as much blame from the supporters, and McCarthy and Connor both seem like decent people, but there's a spinelessness to the endless positive talk when sometimes you just want to hear "we weren't good enough, we fucked up, sorry"

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

Connor at least hasn't taken Mick's combative approach to the fans, which was just another indicator of the guy's mulishness. Bone-headed and no nonsense is a fucking terrible look in top flight football in 2012.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 11:51 (thirteen years ago)

ah this is just getting a weight off my shoulders. we're unwatchable this season and not because of the defeats, the unwatchability is the prime cause of the defeats if anything.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

eh you know if you were in connor's shoes you'd have stayed on too once asked. couple of months extra pay before the inevitable

i read something this week saying curbs didnt take the job cos he wouldnt accept a wage reduction on relegation, so uh maybe morgan's sensible book-keeping is kind of a silver lining at least

otoh megson in the stands, ruh roh

r|t|c, Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

idk it's no good to say it but maybe yo-yo is not the worst place you could be. I'm no expert on what it takes to make the leap up to staying in the top division for good but more fail, and fail with disastrous effect, than succeed and keeping a lid on spending is certainly an inhibitor but it's also the safe path in the medium/long term.

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:08 (thirteen years ago)

i can't fault the sensible book-keeping, i don't wanna throw stupid money at the problem. if i was Connor i'd have snatched their hands off, obv.

Morgan and Moxey don't appear to know anything about football, is the problem. the book-keeping part of the equation ideally shd happen alongside an imaginative approach to getting the right management staff, having a vision for the club that goes beyond "being in PL as cheap as possible" and trying to play football. if we sit mid-table in the Championship on those terms i'd be happier than the farce that's unfolded over the last 3 seasons tbh.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

Albion and Hodgson have their flaws but appear to be a much better model of this kind of approach than we've ever managed. and that's on the back of a smaller fan-base.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

hmmm failure at a higher level is kinda often a necessary step from succeeding at a lower. I mean I'm just devil's advocating here i'd have had connor poisoned by now obv.

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

the thing is that the flaws are systemic, have been there since we got promoted, and Connor's been part of that system from the beginning

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

tbf to Connor I have no idea how much involvement he had in transfer policy, and obv we're not likely to find out now. maybe he wd have realised the importance of having full backs or something.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

Tevez is gonna do it for these fuckers isn't he

Number None, Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

there's a little sick part of my stomach that thinks the cunts cd still offer him the job in the Championship next season. continuity's a good thing but ffs there are limits.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

Connor’s own fate will be decided after the final game at Wigan on May 13, but he said yesterday he would like many of the current squad to remain at the club.

then i read stuff like this and wonder how easy it is to buy poison

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

ha i've just remembered i was having a mutual commiseration session with a Villa fan outside the pub last night

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

albion yo-yo'd for years til they got a foothold, you lot stayed up there for a while. if the finances are in good nick then at least it's only a football problem - would you rather be qpr getting relegated?

gotta look at newcastle's example, they'd never have sorted themselves out on the hoof in the prem. relegation is necessary sometimes

r|t|c, Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

Bitterly disappointed Tevez still knows how to play football and make goals. It just wasn't what I expected.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:29 (thirteen years ago)

i can live with relegation, as i say it's the manner of it, and the worries about what will be learned. nobody's making very encouraging noises about improving the football element.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

saw some graffiti in town this morning saying OPPOSE THE EPL, SUNDAY APRIL 22ND and i was like yeah i'm down for that, but i suppose it was just a horribly formed D

jabba hands, Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

Newcastle have a shitload more money and a bigger fanbase though, they were always going to come straight back up.

Agree that West Brom were up and down loads pre-Hodgson, and they would probably have gone down without them. I don't think relegation is the end of the world for Wolves really, there are other clubs, Wigan particularly, who could well be completely screwed by going down but I reckon Wolves would at least have a decent foundation to build off in the Championship, with the right manager. Last bit is crucial obviously and also the hardest bit to get right even without an idiot chairman.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

current squad sans the 2 or 3 genuinely good players in there is gonna struggle in the Championship, i'm calling it. and now enough of my moaning :)

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

It's a shame we don't have a City fan here to give us his/her thoughts on the Tevez situation. I'd imagine if he plays, scores, and they end up winning the league then all will be forgiven. But if he plays and they still end up not winning the league it's got to feel a bit like eating your own shit. Or maybe someone else's.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

Not a Citeh fan, but could it be possible they keep Tevez on board if they offload Balotelli this summer?

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:39 (thirteen years ago)

I think it's impossible to say at the moment - a lot hangs on whether they win the league, and if they don't, whether Mancini gets the elbow.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

get rid of two from three imo

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 April 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck it. Double whammy. Watching both games simultaneously and Carroll gets there seconds before Tevez.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 14 April 2012 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

Oh fucking fuck

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 14 April 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

Tevez got there before Carroll for me. Still shit

Number None, Saturday, 14 April 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

Tevez hat-trick

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 14 April 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

golf club celebration, the twat

Number None, Saturday, 14 April 2012 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

This is a truly terrible footballing week so far

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 14 April 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

can well imagine there's pro-tevez city fans that think mancini's a twat and the money is abstract and someone else's therefore nbd

r|t|c, Saturday, 14 April 2012 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

that was fucking magnificent tbf

Number None, Saturday, 14 April 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

oh also re tevez staying there's some talk aguero/madrid may be a thing this summer

r|t|c, Saturday, 14 April 2012 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

guh

some dopey stuff from rangers rite now, just hoofing it to a stranded zamora

r|t|c, Saturday, 14 April 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

Blackburn mounting a serious relegation challenge now

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

the way this is going swansea should really score a couple more before it's done, i don't know how much of that is them being particularly ruthless despite being 3-0 up and how much is blackburn being utterly rubbish. (xp)

michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 14 April 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

Well that was fucking brutal. (bad) City were just so clinical. Watching it, it didn't feel like we were getting slammed 6-1 (maybe it was all the beer I drank, though), but at the same time we had very few clear cut chances to complain about. Have to say I lol'ed at Tevez' celebration for his hat trick. I hate (bad) City, but I actually quite like Tevez. Man City are the only team to properly destroy us this season (11-2 on aggregate: yikes). To whoever it was upthread last week saying Norwich never look capable or threatening: we've scored against *every* team in the premier league this season, and only failed to score in 5 games our of 34 so far. That's pretty threatening and capable.

CraigG, Saturday, 14 April 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

load of bollocks today, really could have done with cisse

will make next saturday's mugging of spurs at loftus road all the sweeter tho

:/

r|t|c, Saturday, 14 April 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

Craig - I started watching the match after Surman had pulled it back to 2-1 and Norwich looked like they might well get a draw for quite a while, then there was an avalanche of goals.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 14 April 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, it was still fun at 2-1, and we still looked in it. Then they realised they could just pass past us if they wanted a goal that badly. :(

CraigG, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

Bollocks. Still, the train journey to the Midlands was fun. And so was the journey back. The bit in the middle was a bit shit.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

sigurdsson tho

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 April 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

v saveable, on reviewing

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 April 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

Some of City's goals yesterday..blimey.

pandemic, Sunday, 15 April 2012 10:52 (thirteen years ago)

2nd was a beaut

r|t|c, Sunday, 15 April 2012 11:35 (thirteen years ago)

I think i hate Ashley Young

Number None, Sunday, 15 April 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

whatta diver

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 15 April 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

Sickening thuggery from Villa against their erstwhile star goes rightly punished

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 15 April 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

that was a close one.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 15 April 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

Nearly a bit of magic there from Scholes. I was embarrassed when he came back, but have to admit the team is much better with him.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 15 April 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

And right on cue he gets injured.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 15 April 2012 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

Worst shot ever from Valencia

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 15 April 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

omg wtfff you have got to be fucking kidding me. halsey is face-on STARING at that dive

the game is rigged gentlemen, fuck this

r|t|c, Sunday, 15 April 2012 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

Any streams?

money (admrl), Sunday, 15 April 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

http://h11.abload.de/img/untitled-1h0jan.gif
http://i41.tinypic.com/157oj15.jpg

Number None, Sunday, 15 April 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

=(

money (admrl), Sunday, 15 April 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

He may as well be foreign

money (admrl), Sunday, 15 April 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

it's the spring that makes it beautiful.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 15 April 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

think that's probably the worst defending i've seen all season for the second unless someone can refresh my memory

r|t|c, Sunday, 15 April 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

=(
http://veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4f8af2ed75f97

money (admrl), Sunday, 15 April 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

lol alan parry blaming villa for young's diving. fuck this, not watching any more of this shite.

Chris, Sunday, 15 April 2012 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

yeah was going to mention that. that was pretty low.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 15 April 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

Berbatov!

Number None, Sunday, 15 April 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

villa just goes to show how much of an absolute bloody shambles you have to be to go down most seasons

beat the relegation candidates barely worse than you, scrape a few shitty draws here and there, maybe once fluke turning over a decent team and bob's your uncle see u next year here's £50m quid

r|t|c, Sunday, 15 April 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

that dive is pretty impressive!

Rosie 47 (ken c), Sunday, 15 April 2012 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

wasn't a dive, just a disastrous attempt to do this:

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnzi0w1Jy41qejlgio1_400.jpg

michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 15 April 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

Young prob been told by fergie it's part of the tradition to do that.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 15 April 2012 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, he learnt that at Utd

Number None, Sunday, 15 April 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

dive or be transferred, that's the united philosophy.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 15 April 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

pffft young has always been a diving bastard, he has just upped the ante

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 15 April 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

He was the "most fouled" player in the league last season, and won the most penalties

Number None, Sunday, 15 April 2012 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

only Suárez, Gutiérrez & Moses are ahead of him in the 'fouled' category this season

boxall, Monday, 16 April 2012 00:19 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9205873/Manchester-United-agree-a-deal-to-sign-Benficas-Nicolas-Gaitan-for-20m-plus-Fabio-and-Federico-Macheda.html

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 16 April 2012 09:36 (thirteen years ago)

whatever happened to fabio? injuries? just not that good?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 10:23 (thirteen years ago)

both

pandemic, Monday, 16 April 2012 10:31 (thirteen years ago)

anyone seen enough of gaitan for an informed opinion

never blown me away in champs leagues games but then benfica generally never do. he's supposedly playing out of position tho

would think kagawa and martinez or strootman might be better bets

r|t|c, Monday, 16 April 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

is sahin ready to throw the towel in at madrid yet

r|t|c, Monday, 16 April 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

Fabio was the more highly-rated of the twins when they arrived (captained Brasil at youth level etc.) but he's never had an extended run in the team without an injury and hasn't bulked up like Rafael has. A loan is a good call but i hope it doesn't have a negative impact on Rafael who was superb yesterday and brings the best out in Valencia, unlike Jones or Smalling in that position.

Number None, Monday, 16 April 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

One for Ronan:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/apr/16/ashley-young-dive

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 16 April 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

Nominees for Professional Footballers' Association Players' Player of the Year award 2011/12: Sergio Agüero (Man City), Joe Hart (Man City), Scott Parker (Tottenham), Robin van Persie (Arsenal), Wayne Rooney (Man Utd), David Silva (Man City).

Nominees for Young Player of the Year award: Sergio Agüero (Man City), Gareth Bale (Tottenham), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Daniel Sturridge (Chelsea), Kyle Walker (Tottenham), Danny Welbeck (Man Utd).

Number None, Monday, 16 April 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

why the fuck is aoc in there? he's played like 3 full matches.

they do this stupid shit every year.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

Evans should have been in there ahead of Rooney but it's pretty difficult to make this stupid list as a defender. Oh and Carrick instead of Parker

Number None, Monday, 16 April 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

baldrick in there ahead of carrick

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

good one. If they were voting now i'm sure Scholes would walk it though

Number None, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

voting occurs in dec, right? When parker had been the outstanding cm in the league.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

no newcastle players

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

too French

Number None, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

had AOC played any games of note then? xxp

no token Swansea player no credibility, Allen for young player at least, surely.

michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

Walker for Hutton has got to be one of the best upgrades of the season

zappi, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

but he replaced Corluka

mizzell, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

Muamba out of hospital :D

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

I was under the impression that Rooney had had a mediocre season and then I actually looked and there he was above everyone except Van Persie.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

I feel that Rooney has somehow done nothing all season except score in almost every game.

michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

kind of a good thing for a striker to do.

mizzell, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, but if he's going to do that you'd think he'd have the dignity to not also be Wayne Rooney.

michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

He hasn't had a bad season, which I think is the more important thing for him, ya know?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe its the hair.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

certain american bloggers are baffled by the exclusion of dempsey given the season he's had, dunno if the december voting thing has come to light yet though

Silky Slim (dan m), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

Wait, is the December thing true? I thought that was darragh joking and I thought it was actually voted for in March.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

I think Dempsey should've made the list. imo shld be Silva, RVP, Dempsey, Cabaye or Ba, Sessengon Baines or Mata and... Carrick? and the YPOTY to be something like Walker, Bale, Ramsey, Allen, Welbeck and Balotelli

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

mcclean worth a shout for ypoty too.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

Ramsey? c'mon now

Number None, Monday, 16 April 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

He has had a bad patch but he's been a big part of a team that came third, as opposed to the guy who has played 6 games.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

1-0 wigan

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

uh

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

Wow. And i mean that

Number None, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

2-0 now

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

holy shit what's going on here

sonderangerbot, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

fucking hell

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

lmao and then straight away from kick off we give it away in our area.

we were down to 10 because arteta limped off but that doesn't excuse a thing.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan look lethal going forward

Number None, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

Okay we know what happens now...

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

Srsly if Wigan win this they're 5pts clear of the drop and if they stay up Martinez is some kind of miracle worker.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

But really I reckon Arsenal are going to batter them 4-2 now.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

pffft they arent playing utd

at the start of this i thought, 'oh shit, why was chesney not nominated for ypoty' and its because whoever pick them could see into the future to today

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

closer to 0-4 than 1-2 so far

sonderangerbot, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

wait what whut someone tell me

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

save

Number None, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

NO NO NO FUCK NO

r|t|c, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

god i fucking hate arsenal

r|t|c, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan 2-0 up after 8 minutes Deems, Arsenal all over the place. I'm trying to resist saying they scored too early, twice, but they probably did.

we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

2-1

we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

al-ahbsi is so dope.

rtc where was the hate for utd losing to them? also we haven't lost yet, so qpr aren't relegated yet.

deems we fucking suck at defending. sometimes i momentarily forget it and its at those times we are liable to go 2-0 down after ten minutes at home.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

omino obv a minute or two ahead of me.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

verm! kinda makes up for his shittyy shitty shitty defending but not really unless we get more and dont lose.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)

Brilliantly open game/shit awful defending - depending on your outlook. Could be 3-3 by now.

we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

Arsenal could have scored 4 times in the last 5 minutes.

we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

boy if djourou scored that volley then i'd be so torn about how much to hate our back line right now. but he didnt, so fuck them.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

we could have scored like 12 by now.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

ffs this is awful

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

feo has been playing too well recently, obviously wants to prove he's still shit

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

what happened? i look away for a second and a wigan player looks dead

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

maybe i shouldnt have said that after this weekend

a wigan player was in a ball on the floor with a bunch of people around him

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

I'd like Wigan to win because
a) it will make United's defeat last week not look so bad
b) it might mean Spurs still have some chance of getting third (though Spurs seem incapable of winning a single match these days)
c) Martinez
d) it keeps alive the faint hope that Villa could get relegated

I'm conflicted about the fate of QPR. On the one hand I'd like them to stay up - nice, smallish London club that were always up in the top flight when I were a lad. On the other hand: hoops. And Mark Hughes.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

I like Martinez but I feel now that Bolton is really going to need every other team around them to be utterly shit.

Though would love to see Villa drop because McLeish.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

plus a potential sequel to the four year plan

and their horrible players

qpr aren't a v likable team and i want them to go down

sorry rtc

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

Villa need to go down definitely

Number None, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

probably enhance his job prospects though

Number None, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

WTF MY STREAM, FROM WHAT I THINK IS A SPANISH CHANNEL - I HAVE NO COMMENTARY, JUST GOING BY ON SCREEN WORDS - JUST DECIDED NOT TO SHOW A MINUTE OF THE GAME TO INSTEAD PROMOTE CLASICO. IF IT WAS A DULL GAME THEN FINE BUT GO FUCK YOURSELF WHOEVER I AM STEALING THIS FROM.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

firstrow has fox soccer channel

Number None, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:45 (thirteen years ago)

well i have a near hd picture that is streaming perfectly, so i'm not going to give it up. i learnt a long time ago that once i find one that 'works' to not chase anything better. but this is an actual tv channel acting like dicks. kinda like that everton-liverpool game a couple years back. i already get advertised to on the shirts, the sideboards, the name of the stadium and things that pop up on the bottom and side of the screen - let me at least have the bloody game going on around them.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

wigan really are the strangest team in the league. flashes of brilliance and times when they pass it around beautifully, like they're totally on it and know what they're doing, and you think there's potential for something amazing to happen to happen them. yet they're fighting relegation.

Chris, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

spurs next year imo

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

yet they're fighting relegation.

Gary. Caldwell.

we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

franco. di. santo.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

caldwell scored a beauty in front of the kop tbf, although whether or not that's much of an achievement considering our home form this season is up for debate!

Chris, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

He's scored a few good goals in his time but his main problem is when he's facing his own goal.

we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

i feel like this is over.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

onimo, like a scorned lover, railing against gary cafu because he left celtic.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

how's my main man beausejour doing? missed any sitters tonight?

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

p sure I was railing against him more often before he left :)

we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

Martinez for the England job imo

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

Gervinho on, so yes its over.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

I was so excited when he came to play for us.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

aoc coming on, tybg

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

does wenger hate oxlade-chamberlain or why hasn't he come on earlier

sonderangerbot, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

arsene has always been crappy at substitutions, surprised he bought him on this early tbh. usually it'd be at about the 85 minute mark.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

I could hear the roar when Oxlade-Chamberlain came on from my flat. Louder then when they actually scored.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

this sort of performance needs them to confirm podolski or vertongwusshisname tomorrow. we have been so inept this half.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

Did they score? There was a huge cheer a second ago.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

WTF REF

Theo is clean through and is blatently pushed off the ball by the last defender

Nothing

FUCKING BOOK HIM IF YOU THINK HE IS DIVING OH BUT YOU KNOW HE ISNT YOU DICK BE A MAN

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

how that wasnt a red and a free kick i just dont get it

the linesman was right there, he had his arm all over him

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

should have consulted the video ref at least

Number None, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

should have consulted his fucking eyes the blind bastard

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

this has been abysmal from arsenal tbqf

sonderangerbot, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

what a bunch of bad losers arsenal are

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

dunno we did a p good job of losing that game

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

haha. as you know i was talking about rvp not shaking hands. couldnt see wenger either. did he bugger off without shaking robertos hand?
pleased for James McCarthy and James McArthur (ex Hamilton Accies players) that they might stay up now.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 16 April 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n-9Rsn52Qk

r|t|c, Monday, 16 April 2012 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

i turned off just before added time

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

This is good all round I think, means Arsenal will need to beat Chelsea this weekend.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 16 April 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

Had forgotten that was coming up but I am now grateful to have to be in class/studying all weekend.

Glad I gave this one a miss as well. #fairweather

Upt0eleven, Monday, 16 April 2012 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

http://i44.tinypic.com/ngh0p.jpg

safety engine, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 07:06 (thirteen years ago)

Fucking Man U and fucking Arsenal, curling up for Wigan like that. Bastards.
Assuming Wolves are down, and with Blackburn looking more and more likely, it's all about Bolton's games in hand to decide QPR's fate.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 11:34 (thirteen years ago)

So happy for the lovely Roberto :)

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

twee bastards moved on from swansea already aye?

r|t|c, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

have been invited to join a friend to the reading match tonight. its my first match in years and it could see a team get promoted!

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

let's hope not eh

jabba hands, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

sweet mother of christ they've only gone and made lee mason (of derry/young fame) the fourth official for saturday's game at loftus road????????????????????????????????????????

r|t|c, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 01:21 (thirteen years ago)

I'll be 15 feet away from Mr Mason. Any advice you want me to offer him?

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 09:58 (thirteen years ago)

ask him not to be a cunt

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:12 (thirteen years ago)

just switched him for probert so nevermind

r|t|c, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:18 (thirteen years ago)

When you shoot, you can look for the spaces between the posts and the goalkeeper," Suarez told LFC magazine. "But instinctively you usually aim for the corners, which means that there's a chance the ball might hit the post and I think we have hit the post more times than the crossbar.

"Sometimes this happens. As a striker, you can shoot from 25 yards and hit the post with a shot that is technically perfect."

r|t|c, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

always been the bane of my life doing things too well tbh

r|t|c, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

"missing" being compatible with "technically perfect" hmmmm

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

he's hit it too well if anything

Number None, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

it's almost as if you've found a footballer who doesn't have the perfect words to express what he means, contact nasa. if english was his native language this would be even more amazing.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:33 (thirteen years ago)

no, that's not the point. as Number None pointed out, the "hit it too well" cliche is a thing amongst Anglophone footballers/pundits too

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

It's not completely nonsensical, you might mean the connection and the hit itself rather than the result. Scuffed shots do go in.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

there's sort of a sense to it, but i've always found it to be one of the funnier commentary cliches

Number None, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

the one i hate the most of late is people saying "unplayable" to describe a player who is so on form that you can't credibly compete against him. feels more common lately.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

fuck yes. HATE it and it's definitely become more common in recent years

Number None, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

it's more annoying because i think they know it's wrong, it's the newness of it that seems to get them all saying it.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

Most often used to describe powerful striker types. Like i first noticed it being used a lot when Drogba was at his peak in the Premiership

Number None, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

it's almost as if you've found a footballer who doesn't have the perfect words to express what he means, contact nasa. if english was his native language this would be even more amazing.

― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:33 (24 minutes ago) Bookmark

often feel like we need to clone another garda to scorn the one-eyed bullshit the other comes out with sometimes

r|t|c, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

like if hoy was defending chamakh saying that you'd so have buried him

r|t|c, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

'unplayable' is fair usage tbqh

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

the one i hate the most of late is people saying "unplayable" to describe a player who is so on form that you can't credibly compete against him. feels more common lately.

― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:48 PM (22 minutes ago)

this is pretty bad, think it has a lot to do with drogba

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

no i wouldn't have slated hoy hoy, i actually believe my further argument in this case, hence why i don't think there was any great disagreement with number none.

i just think it was fairly pedantic even by ilx standards, not a big deal.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

there are times when drogba does look like hes impossible to contain and the term sort of makes sense

most of those times involve william gallas tho

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

its not as bad as the grayism

UNSTOPPABLE

UNSAVEABLE

IF U HAD THREE GOALIES U WOULDNT OF SAVED THAT

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

to me "unplayable" is wrong just because it's a negative term, like the match was "unplayable" due to adverse weather conditions. or he's "unplayable" due to an injury or something. it's passive, the thing it describes cannot be played, surely? for a player to be "unplayable" surely that would mean he was suspended or injured or shit? it's a really ugly word anyway...

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

syntactically it means play is transitive wrt to players, players can be played like for example if torres rapes vidic then it means vidic has been 'played'

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

torres atm is eminently playable tho

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

oh god i did that wrt to thing again i hate that

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i guess in the modern sense of "play or get played" it does mean something, not sure your andy townsends are invoking this though.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

messi is pretty unplayable.

I haven't heard "meat and drink" (or variants e.g. "food and drink") so much lately, which is meat and drink to me

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

iirc "unplayable" came from Triple H of WWE and the lyrics of his theme song "The Game" by Motorhead

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

they should start saying "meat and chips"

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

in homage to the true late night kebab snack

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

twitter.com/philmcnulty/statuses/180055889452081155

Penny for AVB's thoughts after that show of guts and character from Chelsea. Some of the old unplayable Drogba there tonight.

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

Many would have paid more than a penny for the thoughts of Villas-Boas if he was watching this game while the wounds heal from his sacking. He may have wondered how he could have failed so spectacularly to coax a performance on this scale from Chelsea during his nine months at the club.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2012/03/abramovich_basks_in_chelsea_vi.html

― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 15 March 2012 23:42 (1 month ago)

nice to know he successfully refashions his twitter insights on the big stage, nult is unplayable at the business end of things

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

nult is technically perfect.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

i may be misunderstanding youse leadig lights- it is my steez tbf- but i think the 'play' in playable (or otherwise) simply refers to 'having as opposition'. 'we're playing x next week', sort of thing. 'unplayable' just hyperbolises the concept of the difficulty of doing this with drogbascent opposition.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

The key figures were Drogba, Terry and the indefatigable Lampard.

indefattiable more like amirite

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

I guess darragh, just unplayable surely used to describe waterlogged pitches or whatever.,,

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

has it been used in like cricket or something like a really good delivery?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i know, but we've just got to allow this one uncertainty into our vernacular, we've got to take on the challenge of deciding whether the word refers to a cresting beast mix of power, pace and technique like drogba or whether it refers to a lumpy, cut-up, soggy mess that the ball seems to come off at unlikely angles like luke chadwick

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

naturally I also dislike 'unplayable'

I have a bit of an instinct that it really needs a dulling preposition beside it, like 'against' - a bit 'unlistenable [to]'
but I think I may even be wrong about that.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

no i think that's it

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

they could just say unstoppable.

mizzell, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

Imagine an unstoppable delivery in cricket, that'd be something to see

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

uncuntable

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

unstoppable a bit lacking in terms of the continuous imo, fooball jargon has a good instinctive feel for these finicky gaps u know

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7oBceuEJ9k

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

interesting - that ball was "unplayable" because of the unplayable condition of the pitch

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/05/article-1320515297477-0EADE91B00000578-734492_636x300.jpg

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:52 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJiehceTvRs

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/apr/20/ched-evans-found-guilty-rape

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 20 April 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

if on the same night, both had sex with the same person who was too drunk to consent, then am i missing something?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 20 April 2012 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

“John Terry for me is the best defender technically I’ve ever seen. I used to say to him: come out with the ball.

"But English football always encouraged him to be more aggressive, play on his power and determination. We should have tapped into his technical ability. He could control a game in same way Beckenbauer could. But that wasn’t the English way.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/european-championships-2012/9214801/Joe-Cole-Liverpool-was-a-bigger-culture-shock-than-France-and-Ive-not-given-up-hope-on-playing-at-Euros.html

r|t|c, Friday, 20 April 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

That's good. I wish it were feature-length though, he sounds like he's got stuff worth saying.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 20 April 2012 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

seo hof

toandos, Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:04 (thirteen years ago)

terrible game

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 21 April 2012 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

yah i was gonna say

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 21 April 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

lots of mediocre players and the good ones out of form

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 21 April 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

mata coming on should make a difference though

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 21 April 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

lol

PSOD (Ste), Saturday, 21 April 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

Sturridge has been poor 2nd half of the season.

Crap game.

pandemic, Saturday, 21 April 2012 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

sturridge is ridiculously selfish

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 21 April 2012 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

i only saw the second half of that but it was execrable, so many misplaced throughballs

probably the worst game ive watched this season, fuck arsenal and to a slightly lesser extent fuck chelsea

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 21 April 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

i just woke up. 0-0, shit game, spurs can be tie on points, yes?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 21 April 2012 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

6pts behind, 2 games in hand.

pandemic, Saturday, 21 April 2012 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

newcastle also

mizzell, Saturday, 21 April 2012 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

so theo gets injured but stays on and ends up possibly doing more damage. that fucking infuriates me. not like wenger to run a player into the ground though ahem wilshere.

Chris, Saturday, 21 April 2012 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

ah fuck these cuntish wet paper bag defence aimless random attack gutless fucks

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 April 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

vdv on the right looking like a really shit option, wonder why harry decided to try it out today. I'm sure whe he sees how it's fuckin the midfield he'll change it at half time.

Get this guy away from the fuckin team someone he's been managing england since january ffs

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 April 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

If this is the way Gareth Bale is going to insist on playing from now on we might as well cash in and take our £40m or whatever.

Also useless fucking chokers don't deserve Champions League football etc etc.

I might give up watching football for the rest of the season, this is horrible.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 April 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

Thinking back on two years ago and remembering how we actually found a new level on the run-in, beating Arsenal, Chelsea and City. This is just useless.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 April 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

absolutely shocking call from the ref for their goal tho, could never have been a fk. Sun in friedel's eyes?

But jesus christ bale is breaking my heart, you have to really try to be so fucking stupid time after time.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 April 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

come on newcastle imo, modric can fro and all, he's been playing within himself all season.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 April 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

alan pardew is going to be managing a champions league team!

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 21 April 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs just don't have the patience to play against teams that put everyone behind the ball, too much good approach play is being wasted by stupidly going for glory rather than keeping possession and waiting for a slip-up.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 April 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

I think I just saw ithappens throwing a strop at the linesman's decision though.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 April 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

Taarabt sent off, not that it'll make a fuck of difference to these useless bottling cunts

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 21 April 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

Bale just walked into the QPR crowd to get the ball back. Not clever.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 April 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

aw, bobby z inexplicably turns some time-wasting into a goalscoring opportunity, but then balls it up.

michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 21 April 2012 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

useless bottling cunts

OTM.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 April 2012 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

next season then: no Champs League/probably no Europa League > no Adebayor, Bale, Luka, maybe VDV idk > no real muscle in transfer market > Ramos-esque ill-judged managerial appointment = 14th place finish remember where you read it first

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 21 April 2012 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

The £70m or so we'd get from selling that lot would go a long way but only with the right manager to spend it and I've no idea who that would be. It's been a fun three years or so but it's over and Spurs have no one to blame but themselves.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 April 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not sure what would be worse, dropping out of the race swiftly or winning the next couple of games only to lose to Fulham on the last day of the season with Martin Jol running the length of the pitch to celebrate right in front of Daniel Levy.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 April 2012 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

simultaneous Redknapp/Jol heart attacks

every young Briton with a Twitter account jailed the following day

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 21 April 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

xpost to Matt DC. I think you did see me throwing a strop. It has been drawn to my attention my others that I was seen on TV appearing to have an aneurysm.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Saturday, 21 April 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

spurs have nobody to blame but themselves redknapp

Obvious lack of rw cover has fucked the balance of the attack, and he's not tried anything to fix it because lennon's absence has allowed him to play vdv modric and bale in the trident that only worked the once (against norwich, ffs) but had the papers raving about his tactical genius.

Gallas has embarrassed himself this past several weeks, Parker has lost his composure, Modric has stopped showing for Parker/Bale/Ekotto, Bale is quickly becoming a cunt and VDV just doesn't do anything much. Adebayor can't be fucked challenging or taking on centre halves so just runs into the wings instead, Walker is, expectedly tbf, prone to massive gaffes in defence.

This was the best attacking unit for five months of this season ffs, it's fuckin astonishing to watch them now- a shambles today. Punting it to Defoe all match, why the fuck even bother turning up? Even in possession it was one man on the ball surrounded by disinterested strangers.

This is like being a fuckin spurs supporter all over again.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 April 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

fuck this is looking grim for Bolton

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Saturday, 21 April 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

Obvious lack of rw cover

if only 'arry took a punt on a cheap option from somewhere like everton, pienaar would be a good back up rw choice etc.

lol at how the whole team is so unified they all decided to join ade in his 5 month fall-out

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 21 April 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

I had been led to believe that Scott Parker was the epitome of the Bulldog Breed, the embodiment of English nobility, without a cynical thought and pure in word and deed. Today I discovered he was a diving twat. Who didn't even get booked despite conceding the free kick for diving. And - I'm not defending the brain dead QPR fans who refused to give the ball back - but how the fuck did Bale not get booked for climbing into the crowd in the lower Loft to retrieve it himself, given that players get booked for hugging their own fans after goals? Risible refereeing from Clattenberg today.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Saturday, 21 April 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not defending the brain dead QPR fans who refused to give the ball back

i am. best wind-up.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 21 April 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

pienaar not a rw, natural inclination is to cut inside

Hope qpr get fined/points deducted for only having one ball (one more than our squad arf)

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 April 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

I was at Arsenal-Chelsea yesterday. I should've known I was pushing my luck ever attending another game after the 5-2, because this was a bit terrible. Still enjoyed it though! A few thoughts:

  • Arsenal's whole style is very frustrating. They kept taking the ball backwards and working it man-by-man from side to side. All this achieves is to allow the opposition to get set. The desire for the team to speed up and attack space was tangible. Eventually they mounted a quick break just before halftime and the cry of relief around the ground was overwhelming.
  • They're not good enough to do the quick-passing-in-tight-spaces thing. It always ended in Walcott running into a blind alley, or Sing or Ramsay being caught in possession. No movement basically. Rosicky realised the problem after a bit and provided movement and urgency, but few followed him.
  • It all looked kind of old-fashioned really. Having seen how Real, Bayern, Bilbao, Schalke and Sporting play superquickly recently, this was like watching 90s Serie A in comparison.
  • Rosicky did well. The Ox is clearly good too but often makes the wrong decision on delivery at this stage. Santos and Gervinho looked good and urgent, though the game was old by the time they were unleashed. The defence looks pretty good, but did get carved open a few times. I blame lack of tracking back, it was that sort of game.
  • Ramsay - awful. He doesn't anticipate anything and looks very laboured and slow. This might be the high vantage point because everyone looks slow. In fact the whole game looked like it was played at half-speed, maybe because it was. Song got caught in possession by Torres a number of times - it was so obvious as a spectator that nobody was giving him a shout.
  • Chelsea - meh.
  • That said, if they were at all clinical they would've won easily. At least three times they had openings where I felt they ought to've been gutted not to score. But they were clearly after the draw, and celebrated it accordingly.
  • There was a magnificent display of leadership by John Terry at the end. He marched over to the Chelsea end, Cech and Cole in tow, and gave as fine a show of badge-thumping as you'll see. And then he did the pointing-and-scanning the horizon thing round their quadrant, which he probably didn't intend to look like a fascist salute, before going on to point out individual members of the crowd. Seriously, Bill Clinton couldn't've worked that crowd better. Would follow.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 08:42 (thirteen years ago)

My word, that pass from Cabaye for Cisse's goal yesterday

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 09:26 (thirteen years ago)

alright ray, settle down

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 April 2012 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

manu look awful. this could be interesting

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 22 April 2012 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

<3 Jelavic

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

furious if that's not in the goals of the month, more technique in that header than most 25-yard thundercunts

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

stonewall penalty not given

Number None, Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

outside the box I think

Rooney 1-1

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

The Roonster!

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

It was on the line, but i think i can move on

Number None, Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

the phrase 'stonewall penalty' is worse than about fifteen unplayables, will of been disappointeds and not that type of players put together

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

I really like it, it's got such an unlikely etymology

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

what if it was awarded because of a bunch of players wearing dresses throwing bricks at the officials

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

there it is

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

ha this is from 2000 and someone claims that the correspondent asking abt the phrase has surely misheard it....

Mark Power claims: "Chambers is right: "stonewall" is a verb, as in "to block obdurately, or Defensively". I suspect what Seamus or Ron have seen is a stone-cold penalty, as in "dead obvious", or "a no-brainer".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2000/dec/13/newsstory.sport5

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

I don't disagree with much of what Darragh said in that post upthread but really the problem is that Redknapp got so drunk on the good times that he convinced himself he didn't need the likes of Pienaar, Corluka, Pavlyuchenko, even Bassong. On a season-long or week-by-week basis. And then complaining about having a small squad when everyone gets knackered and it all starts to go wrong. I suppose the equivalent would have been United of the last couple of seasons offloading someone like Park Ji-Sung and then missing out on the crucial goals he's tended to score near the end of the season.

And yeah, not signing a RW when it's been obvious for ages that Lennon is prone to injury and lapses of form and then having to overhaul the whole system to accommodate him. And not having the will or managerial ability to get Bale to play in position.

I have a feeling that, give or take a centreback here or there, a better manager could have won the league with the squad we had at the start of the season, but Redknapp was never brought in to win titles or even qualify for the CL, he was brought in to stave off relegation. I doubt Levy expected what happened next and I'd love to know what the's thinking right now.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

great finish ffs

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

Great goal. I've just been told "stop making a noise, daddy".

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

Quite right

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, i let out an unusually high-pitched scream

Number None, Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

balls

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

was lovely though

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

oh well this was quite enjoyable while it was a contest

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

Nani really makes a difference to this team

Number None, Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

James McFadden?!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

It really wasn't looking promising earlier

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

Ah, jesus

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

gtfi

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

my reverse psychology does the trick again

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

maybe try a bit more now?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

Just about any result seems plausi- ROONEY! Scrub that.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

oh well this was quite enjoyable while it was a contest

we are not bemused (onimo), Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

maybe try a bit more now?

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, April 22, 2012 12:58 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

<3 Jelavic

― W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, April 22, 2012 12:03 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

gtfiN

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

Just about any result seems plausible at the moment

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

remember that time Everton scored twice v Utd in injury time?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

fuck

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

fuck!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

shit, still 5 mins left

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

Shit shit shit shit

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

well it's not going to finish 4-4

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

i cant remember a game getting up to 4-4 in this league.

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

lol 5 minutes

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

5 mins huh

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

utd throwing away title imo

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

gah I switched to the (pish) Celtic game at 4-2

we are not bemused (onimo), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

lose against wigan and conceding 4 goals at home.

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I'll take that

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

\0/ tbh

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

Really, really surprised tbh.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

let's not lose sight of the main fallout of this result, which is that Spurs have probably just about secured sixth from Everton now

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

is football

is strange

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

skimming thru the mbm......why 5 mins injury time?

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

you know

Number None, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

time added for goal celebrations?

we are not bemused (onimo), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

it's kind of a blur, didn't seem like there were any major stoppages tbh

Number None, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

6 goals and 4 subs @ 30 seconds each

we are not bemused (onimo), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

There was a clash of heads between Evra and somebody, that contributed a fair bit of time

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

None, but there were six goals and you can't honestly see a ref denying Moyseytime at OT

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

well the worst Utd team ever played some decent stuff today. That's something

Number None, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

onimo is probly otmino tbh, isn't it sposed to be a minimum of 30 seconds added on for each goal scored? or is that just substitutions?

xps yeah

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

feel like at 4-4, goal celebration time kinda cancels itself out

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

if this was in spain u could say moysey's parted the red sea but it isnt so itll have to be ROO THE DAY or sthing like that

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

id have expected citeh to fold now that it's in their hands again, but a fully enraged tevez trying to put one over on ferguson might just make the difference

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

Really need Wolves to take one today, can they even do that right?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

odd future wolves gang kill themselves

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

I picked a bad day to throw a strop with football.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

Is that 30 secs per sub thing an actual rule? Cos they don't bother in the Bundesliga whereas Serie A always has loads of stoppage time.

If City fuck this up today I'll be fuming. Come on, send Wolves down in style.

pandemic, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

updates

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

went out to see 30-foot giant puppets walking around town only to find it had finished early. ended up missing one of the games of the season by the sound of it.

Chris, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

i'm too hungover to process it really

Number None, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

this is quite similar to what had been happening in spain prior to last night, fwiw

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

30-secs per sub is not a rule, just a rough idea of what usually happens

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

David Moyes: 'I thought Fellaini was nearly unplayable at times today'

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

The two sides were, not similar exactly, but experiencing the game at a similar rhythm. Both attacked well when they had to do so (Utd close to their swashbuckling best, but only in brief patches); both defences stood up okay to moderate pressure; but crumbled under any real sustained threat, such that they were practically passing into one another's nets late on. Flawed teams, but well-balanced enough to make a great game.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

yeah I was thinking how Yanited-ish Everton were in their ventures forward circa 80 mins or so

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 22 April 2012 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

Official law states "The allowance for time lost is at the discretion of the referee." No mention of 30 seconds for subs.

Chris, Sunday, 22 April 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

Sorry, just saw that NBS got there before me.

Chris, Sunday, 22 April 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

I was delighted that Everton took on the idea of marking Scholes out of things btw. My feeling is that everyone else has made it a little too easy for him to be the masterstroke of the season.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

a good strategy that limited Utd to just the four goals?

we are not bemused (onimo), Sunday, 22 April 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

Strange time to break out the 'fuck all! you're gonna win fuck all' chant

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

unless it's City fans doing the singing

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

beautiful passing move by City there, Nasri dragged the finish wide tho

boxall, Sunday, 22 April 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

more please

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

Clichy looking like Bale with that move + assist.

boxall, Sunday, 22 April 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

lfc dominating, denied a pen, hit the woodwork. 0-0. story of our season.

Chris, Sunday, 22 April 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

and west brom take the lead.

Chris, Sunday, 22 April 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

lol at Bassong just watching City walk that into the net

boxall, Sunday, 22 April 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

story of our season

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

and yet i still can't quite believe it.

Chris, Sunday, 22 April 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

61% possession, 28 shots. Lovely. All the teams down to Stoke will overtake us at this rate. We'll finish 14th and win 2 cups. Don't know whether to laugh or cry.

pandemic, Sunday, 22 April 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not sure how we're managing to hang on in 8th tbh, the pressure buildup is getting massive in behind. We're like the cork in our FA Cup celebratory champagne.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

nice to see Roy finally getting a win at Anfield though

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

Lol

46pts from 34 games is pretty much an automatic sacking really.

pandemic, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

i've opted for laughing

Chris, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool have a p generous run-in but none of their games are more self-evidently winnable than WBA at home so yeah

kinda stoked (npi) for the midtable madness actually

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

14th and 2 cups? Would you settle for 11th and one?

When was the last time EFC scored four in consecutive league games? Kendall's first era? It's all gone a bit ridic. Would gladly transplant Osman's Easter Monday curler and Jelavic's header today to Wembley last Saturday and manfully accept the loss of a point.

xxxp

Michael Jones, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

The cups are the thing to have obviously; the league is just embarrassing since it's of no consequence anymore. I'd say that a low finish (i.e. below 8th) could have the benefit of forcing change - but my fear is that that change will be Suarez leaving and nothing else.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez leaving might be a good idea

Number None, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

Nah, Suarez is the main creative player. We need a finisher. But seeing as we've just spent/wasted £100m can't see us buying one.

Obviously I'm seeing this through LFC lensed glasses but I find it difficult to believe that Newcastle create more chances than us. Difference is they actually have a couple of guys who do the difficult bit and score.

pandemic, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

I was jokin' about the cups.

To answer my own question: Aug '99: 4-1 and 4-0 home wins over Southampton and Wimbledon. The Jeffers-Campbell dream strike force!

Michael Jones, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

Kevin Campbell! Was that when he came at the winter break and saved Everton from relegation?

pandemic, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

August '99, so it must have been Jan '99 when he arrived. Was that the Mike Walker era?

pandemic, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

God, i'm 5 years out!! Hangs head

pandemic, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

if Everton could start a campaign like that now you'd be laughing

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

Wiki tells me Campbell arrived in March '99, on loan, and scored 8 in 9 games!
Eventually lost his place to some youngster called Wayne Rooney, never made it iirc.

pandemic, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs are officially uncatchable now btw, it's no St Totteringham's day but congrats to you lot I suppose

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

I think that even Spurs fans have evolved beyond 'finishing above LFC' = a good season. But congrats anyway.

Where's that Newcastle thread that made an appearance at some point last year? Didn't we have one Newcastle fan? Kudos to that dude.

pandemic, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

Connor: we have to be competitive the last 3 games ... because league rules demand it.

boxall, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

Tyno AsPOLLia: Songs of the Great River

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

Are they gonna dock them points if they under perform? Who could even tell?

Btw am pouring one out for Mr NV.

pandemic, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

lol on googling I am disappointed that the M Knopfler poll option is not in fact one song

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

SportsDirect @ Official Newcastle United forum - FA Cup winners 2011/12, Europa League here we come!

Can't believe I was actually undermbitious for them!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

Ah, missed all the SuperKev chat, I was Wii Boxing with the girls ("Fight him in the face, Dad!"). Yep, as above - spring '99 was when he arrived and saved the season. First two-thirds of 99-2k was in a similar vein (we were 7th at the end of Feb, Kev-Fran had provided 18 goals, only Man Utd were outscoring us as a team) and then it all fell apart.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

Feeling for Noodle Vague right now.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 22 April 2012 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

today was more in the nature of a relief, getting the finishing blow done and not fucking up City's title challenge. we all knew they were relegated 2 months ago - at least.

now all that remains is to employ some terrible journeyman manager and maunder away with the remains of this shitty squad in the Championship for a season or two until Morgan gives it neck.

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 April 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

is purslow still hanging round?

Chris, Sunday, 22 April 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

nah but seriously, you reach a point where you're actually, briefly, optimistic because you think maybe there will be some thought and a plan to go forward and something to feel good about it, and at least we're not due for administration any time soon.

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 April 2012 18:47 (thirteen years ago)

are you still talking about wolves?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

i am now but

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 April 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

maybe Steve Morgan's been so depressed by Liverpool this season it's distracted him from trying to keep the club he owns in the Prem

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 April 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

is the stadium redevelopment still going ahead?

Chris, Sunday, 22 April 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

it's done, shd be open for the new season so there'll be plenty of space

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 April 2012 18:52 (thirteen years ago)

Feeling for you bro

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 22 April 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

Commiserations, Noodle Vague. Fear for crowds at Molineux next season unless you get a flyer. Was surprised by how many empty seats there were today for your decider, even given it was on the telly.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Sunday, 22 April 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

jelavic's header was great. i think rooney took his with his face. i still find rooney with a hairstyle to be a bit distressing, but i understand if he doesn't want to muss it up.

michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

danny welbeck is a very talented player

could well replace rooney if they have the sense to get rid of that fucking parboiled pig foetus and his slimy entourage

― nakhchivan, Saturday, December 18, 2010 10:50 PM (1 year ago)

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

love it

welbeck and carrick linked v well

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

i was hoping id expressed my high regard for welbeck before that

hes still a work in progress but he just doesnt look like yr average english centre forward at all

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

dea gea wasnt completely played cuz they were some fine finishes by everton.....but still, he was maybe a bit playable today

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

I do like him but he's entirely melded with Sturridge in my mind and Sturridge was rotten yesterday

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

well as yr boy michael cox sez, di matteo likes to have sensible disciplined types on the wings (kalou/ramires) whereas vyaszb'wasz was happy to have sturridge doing his sulky poacherr routine in the inside right channel

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

first ever ILX mention hidden in a misspelling:

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics) wrote this on thread Liverpool won't be on dis ting 2008/09 on board I Love Everything on Nov 15, 2008

Let's all get overexcited about Danny Wellbeck.

boxall, Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

I do like him but he's entirely melded with Sturridge in my mind

I don't see the similarity

Number None, Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

sturrbeck

welbridge

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

I proposed that pair as two-thirds of an England front III, with Rooney, and now I can't remember which is which. Like Jason Wilcox and Stuart Ripley, or any German club side that isn't Bayern.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

stuart ripley had stupid hair iirc maybe it was spiky or something? jason wilcox i can remember absolutely nothing about

paul warhurst, who was paul warhurst

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

FORMER Blackburn Rovers player Stuart Ripley is looking forward to quite a different career after graduating from the University of Central Lancashire (UCLan) this week with a combined honours degree in Law and French.

Stuart, who hung up his boots in the summer of 2002, won the Premiership with Blackburn Rovers in 1995 and also played for England during his spell at the club.

He now intends to continue his studies at UCLan's Lancashire Law School, with a postgraduate Legal Practice Course.

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

'alan as you well know it's a results business'

colin murray's gentle trolling is comendable

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

talented

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

i remember ripley, warhurst and wilcox from my sticker album.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

Premier League team of the year: Joe Hart (Man City), Kyle Walker (Tottenham), Vincent Kompany (Man City), Fabricio Coloccini (Newcastle), Leighton Baines (Everton), David Silva (Man City), Yaya Toure (Man City), Gareth Bale (Tottenham), Scott Parker (Tottenham), Robin van Persie (Arsenal), Wayne Rooney (Man Utd).

Number None, Sunday, 22 April 2012 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

aguero over twp, cabaye or tiote or modric over parker

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

not modric.

Ekotto over baines, and i'm sure there's a rb in the league can defend?

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 April 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

Just watched the Connor post-match interview - saddest thing was when, despite clearly being on the verge of tears, he somehow remembered to call it "the Barclays Premier League".

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 22 April 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

Good to see Man United get the recognition their table topping form deserves.

we are not bemused (onimo), Sunday, 22 April 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

ivanovic, sometimes
sagna, mostly

xxp

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

ferguson as moty is the only recognition any individual deserves there tbh

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 April 2012 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, sagna's seemed to have had a good season i thought?

Clint ahead of parker, bale, rooney

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 April 2012 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/21/article-2133285-00542A2D00000258-276_634x473.jpg

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

def dempsey

ogmor, Sunday, 22 April 2012 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

Even the PTOY doesn't think of Bale as a winger anymore. Harry your job is done.

pandemic, Monday, 23 April 2012 06:08 (thirteen years ago)

sagna was injured for 5 months

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 23 April 2012 08:50 (thirteen years ago)

So apparently Redknapp has had a training ground row with Adebayor which resulted in him refusing to play at QPR, and he's completely lost the dressing room and ended up in arguments with Lennon, Kaboul and Walker of late.

Dunno if it's true but has the ring of credibility to it. All concerned are cocks obviously.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 23 April 2012 09:56 (thirteen years ago)

if i were kaboul i'd be unhappy about being dropped for gallas, lennon should obv be in the team, adebayor shouldn't be signed permanently, walker prob v unhappy at not having any cover in front of him this past three months.

If i got a hold of harry i'd row with him too.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 23 April 2012 10:12 (thirteen years ago)

yeah when we argue the skill-set of pro managers then "dealing effectively with cocks" has to be a requirement, for better or worse

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 April 2012 10:14 (thirteen years ago)

people like to talk about HR's great man-management

'sometimes you need to put an arm round a player'
'Harry's good with players'

I often thought he treated players poorly

don't know if this story is true, though

I think it is a fact that I said in about early Feb that Spurs would probably finish 5th, and various people laughed / mocked / said I was kidding

I thought that Arsenal would go on a run (they did), thought Chelsea would overpower us (they haven't, yet, except in the SF), did not at all believe that Newcastle would finish above us (feels like they will).

the pinefox, Monday, 23 April 2012 10:18 (thirteen years ago)

oh and I also thought we would hit poor form / collapse, though maybe not quite as consistently poorly as we have.

the pinefox, Monday, 23 April 2012 10:18 (thirteen years ago)

if i were kaboul i'd be unhappy about being dropped for gallas

Isn't he injured?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 23 April 2012 10:21 (thirteen years ago)

even so tbh

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 23 April 2012 10:22 (thirteen years ago)

PF you are a veritable oracle

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 23 April 2012 10:24 (thirteen years ago)

this is the link?
http://tottenham-spur.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/redknapp-in-row-at-tottenham.html

I think I am, DM, but like I say I didn't see Newcastle coming -- I repeatedly said earlier in the season that they would not last, cos it seemed an easy and robust thing to say; oddly it was not true

the pinefox, Monday, 23 April 2012 10:25 (thirteen years ago)

we'll still get 4th tho

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 23 April 2012 10:25 (thirteen years ago)

even so, even the commonly held negativity of the spurs fan was nowhere to be seen at xmas, i'll never trust again

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 23 April 2012 10:27 (thirteen years ago)

Newcastle will fall at the last hurdle I think, they've got to play Chelsea and then City who are back in with a shout of the title. And Everton at Goodison. If they get fourth after that lot they'll have thoroughly deserved it but I don't see it.

Chelsea will finish fourth.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 23 April 2012 10:30 (thirteen years ago)

OK, that sounds accurate.

the pinefox, Monday, 23 April 2012 10:32 (thirteen years ago)

no, chelsea will take a savage beating at barca and i'm not sure lampard's heart will take it. The ensuing puling over an RIP Lampard number 8 shirt will end in the 'tragic' drowning of the entire chelsea squad and staff in a wave of puke from everyone else

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 23 April 2012 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

but in any case, no, chelsea won't get fourth

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 23 April 2012 10:34 (thirteen years ago)

i think betting against newcastle is to ignore the reality of the good football they're playing with with decent, and relatively fresh, players. i say they'll finish third. arsenal fourth. i shall lol.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 23 April 2012 10:35 (thirteen years ago)

FWIW I reckon Spurs will draw with Villa, beat Bolton and then lose to Blackburn and Fulham. I don't think Gallas and King will be able to cope with Blackburn lumping it up to the Yak at all.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 23 April 2012 10:37 (thirteen years ago)

good morning spurs fans!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OVlbHYSRp8

r|t|c, Monday, 23 April 2012 11:07 (thirteen years ago)

have city won the league or did united lose it?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 23 April 2012 12:37 (thirteen years ago)

citeh walked it in the end

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 23 April 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

notorious bottlers united notoriously bottled it.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 23 April 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, i'm not sure what the narrative is now cos City bottled it originally but now we're bottling it. Dunno if i'm gonna be able for his derby

Number None, Monday, 23 April 2012 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

this derby even

Number None, Monday, 23 April 2012 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

Plenty more bottling to come hopefully. Bottleless races are a drag.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 23 April 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

That should be races with bottle I guess, but it sounds wrong.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 23 April 2012 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

when is teh derby?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 23 April 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

june 2

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 23 April 2012 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

It's on next Monday a hoy

Number None, Monday, 23 April 2012 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

just watched the highlights. oof. welbeck should be in the england 11. also jelavic is dope.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 23 April 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

brendan rogers ruining my love for him in one sentence, calling twp as 'up there with messi'

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 23 April 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

Sir Alex Ferguson and Arsène Wenger have named an unchanged side in the league only twice this season, Roberto Mancini only once.

this is the key for me. think redknapp has done well within limits, but needed to rotate the squad a lot more. but the strength of the squad may have resulted in more losses during spurs good run. some of the loans seem really dumb, and they should have bought a cisse or a jelavic or someone in january.

mizzell, Monday, 23 April 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

welbeck/rooney combination goal y'day reminded me of cole/yorke at the nou.

pandemic, Monday, 23 April 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

Also felliani pass for everton's 4th was class.

pandemic, Monday, 23 April 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, it was eerily similar. It makes sense to play them as pair for England too.

Number None, Monday, 23 April 2012 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

michael cox says as much (re welbeck and rooney) in the guardian.

mizzell, Monday, 23 April 2012 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

Wasn't this season the first time that Ferguson had fielded an unchanged side? Or is that something I dreamt?

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

and they should have bought a cisse or a jelavic or someone in january.

― mizzell, Monday, 23 April 2012 14:47 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/04_01/SoccerSaraR_468x461.jpg

someone needs to make a gif of motd's slow motion version of nasri's finger waging celebration. creepily long finger, moves like he was flinging around a stretch armstrong toy.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

Wasn't this season the first time that Ferguson had fielded an unchanged side? Or is that something I dreamt?

― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:00 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dunno i think in 25 years he has done it before once or twice

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

hopefully won't see Ashley Young again this season

Number None, Monday, 23 April 2012 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

Not even diving for England in the Euros?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

sure, if he's getting booked for it

Number None, Monday, 23 April 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

Had to laugh at Alan Green expressing outrage over Ashley Young's diving antics and saying that even if he did playing for England he would still be as outraged, yeah like you were when Owen and Gerrard used to do it...

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

I expect we'll see three in midfield at City though so Welbeck is probably going to lose out

Number None, Monday, 23 April 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

ok i actually felt bad for liverpool watching that. they should have won that 5-0.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

or alternatively Rooney may just end up playing a lot deeper. Utd will be playing for the nil nil anyway I think

Number None, Monday, 23 April 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

MOTD2 indie may be the worst genre of music.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

"We're still trying to get hold of our own training ground and trying to insure the exclusive right to develop our own players."

Brendan Rogers on MOTD2. Seems fascinating that a Prem club doesn't have their own training ground. God knows how 92 professional clubs out there still work.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

Quite a lot of them are teetering on the brink of extinction

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

MOTD2 indie may be the worst genre of music.

― Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, April 23, 2012 3:21 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

soccer AM indie would win that surely

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

theres probably a rizla thin difference between the two but soccer AM is more kasabiany so yeah that

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

Soccer AM still exists?

Number None, Monday, 23 April 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

MOTD2 is more koscielny

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

i think it does because ilx poster 'darraghmac' watches it religiously, iirc

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

is tim lovejoy still on it? because he is horrible.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

last night they played an old corporate indie song and what was it, I can't remember

oh, yes, 'Great Things'! which I love, really!

the pinefox, Monday, 23 April 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

Really? I was talking (very briefly) to one of Echobelly yesterday!

Tim, Monday, 23 April 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

the pinefox is quite right about redknapp -- he is an in group/out group manager who has his favourites and then another pool of disaffected failed transfers who he begrudgingly calls upon in extremis

when he starts to alienate ppl like adebayor and walker then u know things are bad

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

fyi the singer of The Pooh Sticks was pumped about having one of his songs played on last night's MOTD2 in a bit lauding the team he supports (Swansea)

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

Jelavic first player to score in five consecutive away games for EFC (incl Wembley) since Duncan McKenzie in 1977! He's awfully good. But I'm not getting my hopes up because Johnson, Bent, Saha and Yakubu all started something like this... McBride and Jô (though not Joe McBride) in smaller, on-loan doses too. If Vaughan and Anichebe had stayed fit, perhaps... Beckford and Beattie had half a spell like this each, maybe.

Genuinely quite excited to have James McFadden back! All we need now is some ridiculous goal-of-the-season volley from him on the final day vs Newcastle.

Michael Jones, Monday, 23 April 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

xxp assuming this whole thing is true and not just twitter malarkey it will (in the longer term) usurp his extended dumping on Pav as the most damning example of the in/out thing you mention

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks Nakchivan!

Tim, yes they did. I bought the CD 45 in a cardboard sleeve in 1995 and liked it a lot and I think, really, I still do.

Just remembered that last night Robbie Savage ACTUALLY SAID - yes, ACTUALLY SAID:

"Liverpool for me are FIVE OR SIX QUALITY PLAYERS away from challenging for Champions' League ... that's FOURTH PLACE, not the title!"

yes he actually said Liverpool were 5 or 6 quality players off challenging.

the pinefox, Monday, 23 April 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

That's extraordinary! We were riffing on this precise phrase a week ago in New York!

Michael Jones, Monday, 23 April 2012 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

the pinefox is quite right about redknapp -- he is an in group/out group manager who has his favourites and then another pool of disaffected failed transfers who he begrudgingly calls upon in extremis

when he starts to alienate ppl like adebayor and walker then u know things are bad

― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:44 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

that's true generally but i don't think it's quite what's happening now - seems to me redknapp is being decidedly stubborn in a crumbling situation and is subconsciously leaving the players out there to be blamed. mexican standoff between the players saying "fuck you you sold us a dream and now ur off, ps you're a dinosaur anyway", arry's saying "fack off this worked before ps i'm untouchable" basically

r|t|c, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

saying jelavic is a bargain and spurs should have signed him is kinda 20/20 hindsight btw - loads of clubs looked at him and were unconvinced, little knowing that it was all part of a deceptively casual berbzishness

i mean i'm not saying it was more luck than judgement on everton's part but i think he's done much better than they expected

r|t|c, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

i agree, but spurs should have bought someone who was scoring somewhere instead of saha

mizzell, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

cisse and moussa sow the most obvious choices probably.

mizzell, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

I can beat pinefox's oracle feats:

You know Spurs *really* could win the league

― Back Shift Backline (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:46 (3 months ago)

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

Europa League? Next season?

pandemic, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

I hope my oracular feats are recorded somewhere. I think I originally thought 6th behind Liverpool, then 5th behind Chelsea, or at best 4th behind Chelsea or Arsenal; but basicall that Chelsea and Arsenal were immovable.

I think winning the Europa League would be a fantastic achievement for someone. United, City, LFC, none have managed to make the final. If a UK team does win it it will be a big deal, really.

the pinefox, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

I know Fulham were in the final which was fab in itself

the pinefox, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

and Middlesbrough

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

I recall half-watching that Boro UEFA Cup final in a pub with various ILXors and everyone being rather pleased that, on this occasion, they only managed to magically transform a three-goal deficit into...a four-goal deficit. Was it just because of McLaren that we were so anti?

Michael Jones, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

Mike, I thought it was just you and me watching it! This would be May 2006 wouldn't it. Definitely the era when ilxors were swapping a lot of soccer stickers.

We were very anti-Mc and thought him a disaster waiting to happen to England ... didn't we?

the pinefox, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

NBS, surely the EL, UEFA Cup or whatever was a different format back then - fewer matches? the sheer number of games seems to be what makes it so hard now.

the pinefox, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

ps I was wrong, a whole bunch of ilxors were there. Did Boro really lose that single game 0-4?

the pinefox, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

Yes! And this after their aggregate recoveries from 0-3 or 1-4 or whatever in earlier rounds.

Michael Jones, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

I have turned up a written account of pretty much every amusing thing you said that night. How about this for a highlight:

Cabbage praises Xabi Alonso and Dean Kiley for liking 'indie', and says that most players like Nelly or Kelly [?]
Mike: or Belly !! Feed the tree ... and it will grow.

^
This must have been the same motif as 'feed the Yak and he will score' or whatever - 6 years ago?

the pinefox, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

Were you taking notes for a pub-based sitcom?

Michael Jones, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

Kelly [?]

That would be R Kelly

Number None, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

Usually.

the Kaiser, arguing against vegetarianism: 'we're naturally omnivorous ... and no other animal seeks to be humane'.
Mike: it's true - lions seek to be leonine!

the pinefox, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

commentary as 4th goal goes in:

"it’s the last nail in the coffin ... they’re *building* the coffin ... Steve McClaren is lying in state ... it’s going to be nailed together with plastic filler, that’s even harder to pull out ..."

I can hear Mike saying that now.

the pinefox, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

just had a look at xabi alonso's twitter feed. lol he's such an indie kid.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Monday, 23 April 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

Xabi Alonso ‏ @XabiAlonso
Yes, once in Liverpool's Empire Theatre RT @ponkytonk
@XabiAlonso did you get into Morrissey whilst playing in England?

the pinefox, Monday, 23 April 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

that's practically worthy of the Empire Theatre.

the pinefox, Monday, 23 April 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

he likes the wire though, so all is forgiven

Chris, Monday, 23 April 2012 18:30 (thirteen years ago)

i mean i'm not saying it was more luck than judgement on everton's part but i think he's done much better than they expected

― r|t|c, Monday, April 23, 2012 4:23 PM (2 hours ago)

yeah im a bit surprised hes done so well

cissé will never be this good again, but hes def good enough to score 15+ a season on the reg

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

the pfa player of the year trophy is surely the ugliest trophy ever cast

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

the la liga and copa del rey trophies get my vote

Chris, Monday, 23 April 2012 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

‘Chelsea made eight changes to play Arsenal and still looked good. I only had one striker and two centre halves — Ledley King and William Gallas — and if one of those got injured I was bang in trouble and would have had to use Bongani Khumalo, who has been on loan at Reading this season and didn’t get in their side. We were desperate.'

no other high level manager talks like this

he paid for khumalo, a 25yr old south africa international, if he is so terrible that he can't even be sixth choice cb then that's his fault

either way it seems rather disrespectful to effectively disparage him like that

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

Responding to a question about foreign investment in the Premier League, Redknapp replied: “Where they find some owners now, I don’t know. I remember the first guy they brought in at Portsmouth from Saudi Arabia somewhere. He looked like they pulled him off the stall outside. He looked like the only Arab who didn’t have oil in his garden.”

Redknapp appears to have been referring to the former Portsmouth shareholder Sulaiman Al Fahim, who had to relinquish his stake in the club in 2010 after failing to deliver on a £50 million investment the club said they were promised.

The FA, which has yet to approach any candidate or their club with a formal request to discuss the England vacancy, declined to comment on Redknapp’s remark.It is believed the view within Wembley is that Redknapp remains the Tottenham manager and unless his comments breach FA rules then they are a club matter.

The comment will be widely interpreted as light-hearted and with no intention to cause offence, but it has nonetheless provoked raised eyebrows in football’s anti-racist community. One senior campaigner said: “That’s just part of Harry’s humour, a comment like that, and I wouldn’t take it in any other spirit than how it has been delivered.

“He’s quick and he’s got that cheekiness. But if he is the England manager it’s different. There is a different conduct and etiquette required.”

Another warned that similar comments would backfire if he were to be appointed to English football’s top job. “Harry is not a racist — he’s always had black players around,” the source said. “But he is always going to be clumsy with what he says. You can’t say that sort of thing in the England manager post."

r|t|c, Monday, 23 April 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

so gonna happen

r|t|c, Monday, 23 April 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

Harry is not a racist — he’s always had black players around

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

Bongani Sandile Khumalo (born 6 January 1987) is a South African footballer who plays as a centre back for English Premiership side Tottenham Hotspur and South Africa. He is known for his brute strength and ability to injure the strongest players while tackling cleanly.

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

no other high level manager talks like this

Hodgson. You're after high level though aren't you.

Chris, Monday, 23 April 2012 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

saying jelavic is a bargain and spurs should have signed him is kinda 20/20 hindsight btw - loads of clubs looked at him and were unconvinced, little knowing that it was all part of a deceptively casual berbzishness

I'm not claiming Pinefoxian foresight here but I said when Everton signed him he'd do well and I was glad to see him leave Rangers. I even sort-of compared him to Berbz.

I think he's of Premier League standard. Good with back to goal, runs the channels, strong, shoots on sight, good goals record, doesn't look overly arsed about anything ever. I'm delighted he's leaving Rangers.

we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 23 April 2012 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

Hodgson. You're after high level though aren't you.

― Chris, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:00 (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

meow

Number None, Monday, 23 April 2012 23:27 (thirteen years ago)

hodgson seems like actually a nice person, there wasn't a hint of rancour in the duration of his bbc interview on sunday

i doubt hes ever thrown a player to the wolves to deflect attention from general failings as redknapp likes to do

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 23 April 2012 23:34 (thirteen years ago)

that wasnt supposed to be a bassong reference

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 23 April 2012 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

na, he just hangs the kids out to dry to deflect attention from his shite tactics against the "formidable" northampton town

Chris, Monday, 23 April 2012 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

dalglish would never do that, even if he lost 3-1 to relegation candidates

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 23 April 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

not got a problem with giving senior players a kick up the arse, but labelling reserves and youths as the B team and giving the impression he views them as separate from the rest of the club, and refusing to give a bit of praise to shelvey when asked about his performance wasn't a great move.

Chris, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:02 (thirteen years ago)

i defer to your superior knowledge of liverpool but i don't think blaming a whole team, even if they're largely kids, is as poor form as isolating a single player
for public criticism

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:11 (thirteen years ago)

ferguson is great at this, he gently upbraided ashley young but made it clear his actual failing was in allowing himself to become the subject of a media witchhunt

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:14 (thirteen years ago)

yeah seems obvious the word he had with him was "the bastards are all out to get us, lay low for a couple of weeks"

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:32 (thirteen years ago)

i defer to your superior knowledge of liverpool but i don't think blaming a whole team, even if they're largely kids, is as poor form as isolating a single player for public criticism

a single player who hasn't even played for them, at that. now he'll definitely be in the right frame of mind to step up to the task if called upon.

michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:40 (thirteen years ago)

redknapp used to complain about pavlyuchenko all the time too, didn't he? then he sold him, and somehow he's ended up with only one striker.

michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:41 (thirteen years ago)

just one striker who refuses to play, and jermaine defoe

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:44 (thirteen years ago)

harry on ade:

"He has done well for us. He has worked hard but he is on amazing money. The other week, one of the lads told him that he had not paid his £50 fine for being the worst player in training on a Friday morning. One of the lads said to him: 'Bloody hell, Ade, you are on 200 grand a week and you can't afford to pay a £50 fine!' He replied: 'Don't insult me, it's 225!'"

The laughter that followed the anecdote was followed up by a serious message from Redknapp, who admitted: "He certainly isn't getting that here."

boxall, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:44 (thirteen years ago)

he has a strange approach to motivation

boxall, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:45 (thirteen years ago)

i defer to your superior knowledge of liverpool but i don't think blaming a whole team, even if they're largely kids, is as poor form as isolating a single player for public criticism

aye that is poor form. hodgey was partial to blaming individuals mind. glen johnson got it in the neck, and he made sure we all knew he had nothing to do with joe cole's arrival.

anyway, redknapp. didn't bent ask for a transfer cos of something he said to him?

Chris, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:46 (thirteen years ago)

'You've got to be careful. I once said, "My old woman could have scored that", about a goal Darren Bent missed.'

'Bent then sulked, rang his agent, his agent rings the chairman and says he ain't happy and wants to leave. It was only the truth, wasn't it?'

Chris, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:48 (thirteen years ago)

lol i like how his wife has turned into 'old woman' in the retelling

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:49 (thirteen years ago)

You wonder what he might have said to his only striker after docking him £50 for poor training on a Friday, presumably before a weekend match.

boxall, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:55 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2012/04/23/how-wolves-can-come-back-stronger/

The Express and Star is home to some of the worst journalistic suck-ups i've ever read, guys who were swearing McCarthy was the greatest manager of our era even as we sank deeper into the mire. It's really heartening to read somebody who gets it. Praying the Board has a long read of this.


But I am afraid for all the mighty progress the former manager brought, he ultimately added to the view that he is a major player for the second tier but a man who struggles in the first.

In choosing their man to take the club forward, Wolves need to embrace a radical change of style. One that still brings successful football but football more pleasing on the eye, more threatening to the opposition and executed by more technically-focused players. Football that can go back into the Premier League with more to offer than parking the team bus across the penalty area.

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 08:52 (thirteen years ago)

Mick coming back seems so inevitable from here, but you'll be pleased to know I'm entirely uninformed.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 09:21 (thirteen years ago)

if we're gonna talk managers who hung players to cover his own failings, the first i think of isn't roy hodgson.

arry's motivational chops are of the loveable drill sergeant type, jokey but the boss. Trouble with that is when things get tough the jokes ring hollow and the edge seems too sharp.

His preference for isolation and mockery of very good players that he's (wrongly, usually) not finding minutes on the pitch for has always been a problem.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 09:22 (thirteen years ago)

Olympics draw is this morning. Is this tourney worth its own thread? Cos we'd need a title. I'm inclined to say no personally, but there is potential humour a-plenty from Team GB.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 09:39 (thirteen years ago)

D-Mac right on every count.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 09:41 (thirteen years ago)

not even planning on noticing it tbh

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 09:42 (thirteen years ago)

sean o'driscoll out as far as 66-1 for the wolves job, same as rafa and peter reid

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

O'Driscoll is 54 which may count against him, and his management record looks slight - Bournemouth and Donny. I think he did solid work at both, and Doncaster were a delight to watch at times. I don't think he's "achieved" enough to get a serious look-in, and I don't think fans are patient enough to get behind his brand of possession football. He has got experience of getting a lot from a small budget but it won't be enough. The fact that he is a Wolverhampton lad will count for nothing.

very few fans are gonna be in the mood for taking a chance or patient experimentation, they're already talking about keeping the squad together and bouncing back. a tiny bit worried about the idea that most of our guys are worth holding onto, tho i'm hopeful there's a core of talent there somewhere.

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:37 (thirteen years ago)

like i wd argue that Doyle, Fletcher, O'Hara, perhaps Kights, perhaps the new boy Davis, are worth sticking with. I like Stearman but I'm not sure, likewise Zube. As for the rest, I don't see much prospect of them being good Prem players, tho some might make effective squad members.

Jarvis is absolutely gash and we shd snatch the first bid we receive, if any.

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:39 (thirteen years ago)

forgot Hennessey but he's out for months anyway.

Edwards, Ward, Foley, Berra, Johnson, HENRY - useless, get rid

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:41 (thirteen years ago)

SkyBet are running a Daniel Agger book, 6/4 to join Barcelona in the summer. Where has this come from?! Of all their transfer specials, only Van Persie to City and Cavani to Juve are shorter odds.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:41 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i think you're right re o'driscoll. didnt expect him to accept no.2 roles so soon either, but i did forget he was that old as well tbh. having him on a par with rafa and peter reid though, have some respect!

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/wolves-specials/next-permanent-manager

bleh look at this torrent of shite. billy or karl robinson or death imo. or lee clark maybe.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:46 (thirteen years ago)

agree those three look like the few realistic and entertaining candidates.

i find it very hard to believe they'll appoint any of the cabbages they couldn't get in March but god knows, maybe Morgan knows nothing about football.

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:50 (thirteen years ago)

Roberto Di Matteo at 40/1

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:50 (thirteen years ago)

i love how there's about 10 clubs spanning the top two divisions hoping west ham get promotion as they're the only club around stupid enough to pick up loads of "proven premiership" dross

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:51 (thirteen years ago)

all the betting sites are blocked at work :(

what price Bruce or Curbishley? god knows why we have a section who still want Curbs, he's a cock imo

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:52 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs to "launch internal enquiry into their disastrous January transfer business". lol

Number None, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:55 (thirteen years ago)

stearman is dreadful

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:56 (thirteen years ago)

i said i kinda like him, i didn't say he was good enough. think he's never found his best position and it's not like he'll have had any technical coaching since he's been at Molineux

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:57 (thirteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/Richard_Stearman.jpg/100px-Richard_Stearman.jpg

He barely appears to be there in his wiki photo

Number None, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:58 (thirteen years ago)

it's ok, but he is dreadful

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:01 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/gv8Ix.jpg

here noodles, quicker this way than reformatting

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

ooh sky's are a bit different

Sam Allardyce5/2
Dougie Freedman7/2
Lee Clark4/1
Steve Bruce6/1
Ian Holloway6/1
Gary Megson6/1
Gordon Strachan8/1
Paul Ince9/1
Alan Curbishley10/1
Gus Poyet10/1
Terry Connor12/1
Darren Ferguson16/1
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer16/1
Roy Keane20/1
Walter Smith25/1
Dave Jones25/1
Roberto Di Matteo25/1
Ray Wilkins25/1
Alan Shearer25/1
Phil Brown25/1
Glen Roeder33/1
Peter Taylor33/1
Graeme Souness33/1
Chris Hughton33/1
Nigel Adkins33/1

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

and by different i mean 'prep the noose'

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

already googling how to tie a slip knot

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

Neymar da Silva Santos Júnior has a silly haircut and also he is better than you: The Olympic Games 2012

'Arry's future squad of players to be kinda racist about: The Olympic Games Football 2012

Ganso? Yes, indeed: The Olympic Games (Football) 2012

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

Gaitán but right back isn't up for a party: The Olympic Games (Football) 2012

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

A packed-out Hampden welcomes Belarus v Egypt, 2:30pm Wednesday 1 August 2012: Olympic Games Football

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

£40 for tickets for that match, down to £20 for the cheap seats, and unlike the earlier games it's not a double-header. I wonder just how low the attendance can go?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

john terry is a cunt: 2012 olympic footie thread.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

This Is The Only Year Britain Will Be Bothered To Enter: Olympic Footie Thread

pandemic, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

not heard anything about agger to barca.

read somewhere that steven fletcher's conversion stats are amongst the best in the league. i really like him, wouldn't mind us making a mid for him this summer.

Chris, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

a bid. not a mid.

Chris, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

Be amazed if he's still at Wolves next season

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

charlie adam experiment will prevent such a move imo, tho finishers are a different beast

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

Because both of them & Dalglish are Scottish? I didn't know the Adam buy was chalked up to nationalistic bias.

boxall, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

Fletcher probably wouldn't be up for another relegation battle anyway.

pandemic, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

Too many British players boxall. Or at least too many bad British players.

pandemic, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

dunno about his conversion statistics but nb he stopped scoring months ago, old man deeply unimpressed with his work ethic, i say fuck a work ethic if you're scoring. if.

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

because they're both high-performing players from relegated teams- not a subset that traditionally get swooped for by the big boys, and adams didn't exactly make a great argument for it.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

Ah I forgot about the relegation link. Were there any success stories from 10/11, other than Parker? Dann?

boxall, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

no, dann's had a mare

foster & larsson

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

although they werent signed off the back of great seasons if that's what the question was

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

Dann and Johnson both suck, maybe they need the magic of Big Eck to function "properly"

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

it was more whether anyone had gone to a cl ql challenging club, tbh

Parker, obv

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

hasn't he been shit since Spurs have gone to shit?

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

he's been ok imo, tho i know ilx spurs opinion may be otherwise. the midfield balance is rubbish and he has no defence to cover, as such, where we're really failing is in unlocking such stalwart defences as norwich or oh fuckit this joke's bitter can i get another pls

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

think only benny made more of a tit out of himself than parker did on saturday

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

I still rate Parker. Spurs biggest failure imho has been in scoring and that's not just Parker's failing.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

if only on setpiece delivery alone the past ten games, bale and modric have been orders worse than parker has been in his function.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

Fun fact: 41 of Jelavic's 44 goals for Rangers and Everton have been scored with his first touch

Number None, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

I tend to agree. I was once excited by Bale and rated Modric highly. Now Bale seems to run down the touchline and then lose possession and Modric's passing has been sub-par.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

oh man, for a return to the days when bale ran down the touchline at all! I'd give me smaller bollock.

Modric has been quietly subpar- a yard short, not there for an ekotto layoff, no longer squeezing himself out of impossible gaps to set a run up, general lack of ambition in the pass. Apart from the liverpool goal he's done very little exceptional all season- it's saddening.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

maybe the lad really wants away

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

give you 15m for him

Number None, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

a midfield of bale, parker, modric, lennon should be destroying most epl defences, if you think of it at all- regardless of our probs at cb or cf.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

you've got no left wing there

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

spurs total inability to break down teams that sit and play behind the ball reflects poorly on all the midfielders, but especially modric i feel. he's the one that should be able to pick them apart. wouldn't mind if levy took 40M for him now.

mizzell, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

BAE is alright, though, isn't he?

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

a better fullback than award winning kyle walker

mizzell, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

BAE is the one player i'd hate to see injured atm, his improvement under harry's been phenomenal. Walker's good too but vdv in front of him is a grave disservice ttl

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

bae talented but fair-weather player it seems to me. couldnt cope with mackie up his arse all game and then sacked it off after an hour

walker not being coached anything so how much nous do you expect him to have at 21

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

bae injured halfway through last week iirc

Walker better than bae was at that age, yeah

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

Football Writers' Award results. These guys clearly know their stuff

1. Van Persie
2. TWP
3. Scholes
4. Clint Dempsey

Number None, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

tdp
twp
tpwthkts
tap

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

Nobody from City. Scholes. When does this thing get voted for? How long a memory does the electorate have?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

fake injury all day long xxp

i don't know what twp stands for :(

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

OH no wait i got it

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

I can just about decipher the Scholes' one

Number None, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

stuck on "kts"

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

"kids to school" i would guess

Number None, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

lol i see it now

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

it's wrong tho! surely he ptkufs??

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

take it no-one's watching aston villa-bolton?

Chris, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

You're kidding me

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

i would be if it was on!

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

me and big eck shared a moment, what can i say. 0-0 btw.

Chris, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

squeeeee are bolton playing some lovely stuff

is david ngog still the best striker around

fucks sake villa rid me of these little bankrupt gits already

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

i have a feeling if bolton lose this then that's it for the season and i'm gonna have to move back to the UK to follow them in the Championship next season

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

lol villa

mizzell, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

FUCK WHY'D I OPEN MY BIG MOUTH

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

jesus villa

jesus

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

I generally have liked Villa over the years, but fuck a McLeish. That dude belongs in the Championship.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

Villa to take no points from these and go down?

West Brom (A)
Tottenham (H)
Norwich (A)

we are not bemused (onimo), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

if QPR can magically keep up their run (against Chelsea and Man City, mind), and Wigan win their games and Bolton win that game in hand, I can see Villa possibly dropping. Problem is that Norwich have long since checked out.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

I'd back Bolton to take Spurs to the cleaners all day but even I'd find it hard to seriously suggest Villa'll do the same

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

spurs don't take points off anyone tbh

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfanvTHqC0w

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

I love that

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

amazing

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

can we get autoplay sorted for next years prem thread

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

aw, i just want to be friends with City now

Number None, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/897361-yann-mvila-transfer-talks-with-arsenal-at-advanced-stage

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

GUARDIOLA FOR ENGLAND

Number None, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

have we not ruined enough people

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

Has he quit?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

about to

seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17855980

seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

Shame. What a way to go though.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

aww. i'll bet di matteo was really hoping he'd get the full-time position.

GoT SPOILER ALERT (Gukbe), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

I can see City attempting to put together some kind of outlandish Pep/Messi package

Number None, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

Should M'Vila make a move to the Emirates in the summer transfer window, he will face competition for a place from the returning Denilson.

lol

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

Denilson doesn't even want to come back

Number None, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

for a place at the dinner table?

wmlynch, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

OMG I'VE JUST REALISED THE WOLVES JOB'S AVAILABLE

seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

so will be McLeish, soon

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

quiet you

seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, let McLeish relegate WBA next after Villa. Wolves can wait.

pandemic, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

Alex MCleish has been appointed manager for the West Midlands circuit. With his tenure in Aston set to terminate, he becomes Lord of Wolverhampton and environs commencing June 2012.

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

Why did Coventry ever move from Highfield Road?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

same as most clubs - it was valuable real estate

seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

OMG I'VE JUST REALISED THE WOLVES JOB'S AVAILABLE

Makes sense, I hear that Guardiola wants a break from football.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:14 (thirteen years ago)

Pep started with the best club. My bet is if he doesn't get the Spain job next, we could see Rijkaard-esque fall off.

Hope he doesn't though, he seems like a genuine dude and I'd like to see him make Brescia great or something.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:16 (thirteen years ago)

http://u.goal.com/104200/104233hp2.jpg

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

Did Rijkaard ever get offered a good job post Barca though? Pep will get offers at clubs that are Ch Lge contenders imo
xp

pandemic, Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:21 (thirteen years ago)

He NEEDS to take the England job. Imagine the look on his face when he turns up for training the first day

Number None, Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

JT's to be allowed to lift the CL trophy if C win. I'd like to think that'll disillusion the guys with the job of actually winning the thing, but it doesn't seem to work that way at SB.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

Is he gonna be in the stands all dressed up in his kit?

pandemic, Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

can't badge-kiss in a suit

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:34 (thirteen years ago)

club suit surely?

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

I demand he wear his full playing kit.

pandemic, Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

visualizing that image is going to add some spice to this final at least

Number None, Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

will he wear his kit to his trial though?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

will wear it under his George suit won't he, then whip it off in the bogs if he has to go and collect the trophy

seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

He'll try to dirty up the kit as well. In 25 yrs time he'll be showing his grandchildren pics of the time he captained Chelsea to European Cup success.

pandemic, Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:47 (thirteen years ago)

Actually for added authenticity he should probably wear a Bayern shirt as if he had swapped it post match

pandemic, Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

20 years ago today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfehJzVT7-w

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

Bashir al-Assad taking the first well

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

I was going to say what horrible strips, only Roy Evans has just popped up in his shellsuit

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

On youtube or round your gaff?

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

lol at the time spent on whether the first was offside too

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5WNqAJCxyU

The first Leeds goal is bad enough, but the third is truly the stuff of nightmares

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

Those highlights will never not be funny. It's a perfect storm of lol.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

amazing to see cantona in there too

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

haha, he was 'big Eric' in those days

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

one more quality manager on the merrygoround isn't a bad thing for spurs

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

big eric contona no less

r|t|c, Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

dunno what manner of tasteless heathen has a bad word to say about united's blue kit there, sensational stuff

r|t|c, Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

barnes really was different gravy huh

r|t|c, Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

barnes made highlights reel giggs look like 90 mins giggs

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

the eternal question, 'but is it good for the Spurs?' xps

boxall, Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

dunno what manner of tasteless heathen has a bad word to say about united's blue kit there, sensational stuff

http://love4culture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Manchester-United-away-kit-1990-19921-e1291644717920.jpg

I actually bought that top about a month before that match, seeing it reduced to half price in a sports shop and not realising that was because they were going to stop wearing it at the end of the season (obviously this was a few years before they became famous for ditching shirts).

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

I always thought that was an adidas-logo-pattern, but it's not. What is it, some sort of maple leaf thing?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

it was a time of pure aesthetics and computer-generated wonderment i would suggest

agree it does have a nice canadian winter olympics quality to it tho, perhaps a cool runnings influence

r|t|c, Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

andrei kanchelskis, prophet of the information superhighway

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

Ferdinand: abuse won't worry me
QPR's Anton Ferdinand has said that he is expecting a hostile reception from Chelsea fans on Sunday

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 27 April 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

Otoh, FA dispensing w/pre-game handshakes

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 27 April 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

are you part of the leeds-chelsea-rangers-linfield confraternity of progressive values in football?

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 27 April 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

Ha ha. *Sigh*

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 27 April 2012 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

Terry must have done himself a world of good for his forthcoming appearance in court with his half-time statement about what happened with Alexis Sanchez the other night.

CPS barrister: "Mr Terry, is there any reason for the court to believe you might lie about your own misdemeanours on the pitch in order to protect your reputation? Can you recall any instances in which you have failed to supply the truth about about offences you have committed when subsequently asked."

Terry: "You fucking blind cunt."

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Friday, 27 April 2012 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

Ha, I never thought about that. Sweet.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 27 April 2012 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe he abused Ferdinand 'just to let him know he was there'.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 27 April 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

just to let him know he was black

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Friday, 27 April 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

It saddens me that his sending off may have actually galvanized Chelski to some extent. I often like JT's committment (preferably to prison, of course) but he's such a monumental idiot.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 27 April 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

Perfect mouthbreathing 'JT the slack-jawed yokel' shot there.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 27 April 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

I saw a reference somewhere to the Cup Final kicking off at 5.15pm and assumed it was an amusing comment on the inevitability of it being a sterile affair settled on penalties. But no, it's true. What's the idea behind that?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 27 April 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

The Football Association can confirm that this season’s FA Cup with Budweiser Final between Chelsea and Liverpool will kick-off at 5.15pm on Saturday 5 May.

It will be the first FA Cup Final under floodlights at Wembley Stadium in almost 20 years – the last being Arsenal’s replay win over Sheffield Wednesday in 1993 when a last-minute header from Andy Linighan in extra-time sealed a 2-1 victory for the Gunners.

The FA aren't saying so let's assume it's for TV

seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

'We stated on record at the end of last season's final that we were looking at a later kick-off time after an FA review of the competition with fans and broadcasters," said a spokesman.

'Research showed that 5.15pm was more appealing than 3pm.

'5.15pm obviously gives people a chance to attend or play in a game earlier that day before watching the final on TV.

'The later time also maximises a bigger domestic and global TV audience for broadcasters.'

'Also we are huge cunts.'

seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:16 (thirteen years ago)

Engineering work, planned up to 18 months in advance, by Network Rail over the bank holiday weekend means Virgin Trains have cancelled all but three of their Liverpool to London services on the day of the final.

And while fans are being advised to travel to the capital via Manchester, Chester or Stoke, there appears to be no means of making the return journey as there are no trains returning to the north-west after the game.

Further engineering work near Milton Keynes means return journey times of over five hours for those hoping to travel back the day after.

seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

i'd say "unfuckingbelievable" but y'know it's the FA so

seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

What?! That's some oversight.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

mighty

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

brb, buying a coach

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

that start time makes it significantly easier for me to see it, though.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

Is the bank hol for May day? Who's stupider or more stubborn in this case, the FA or Network Rail?

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

Fucking hell. No transport, graveyard slot on telly, drowned out by the greatest league in the world - the Coupe de France is going to be the world's preëminent cup competition before you know it.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 27 April 2012 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

it's a better telly slot, tbh

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

xp

the FA if that line about the repairs being announced 18 months ago is correct.

puts an interesting spin on all the whining when they weren't allowed to organise a World Cup finals, they can't even organise 1 match.

seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

i'm sure that overseas markets were in mind when they altered the time

seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

Why would Network Rail do repairs on a line over bank holiday weekend, though? Is there less traffic? I would have thought it made for a good weekend getaway to have an extra day off.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

repairs usually happen over weekends, especially bank holidays. there's significantly less necessary traffic than during a working week.

seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

and it isn't just sprung on people on the whole.

seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

Whereas who could've predicted that a team from the north west would make the final?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 27 April 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

Under floodlights? The match will be over by 7pm, maybe.

pandemic, Friday, 27 April 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

The floodlights will be on. Even if they are unnecessary. They were on at the Chelsea-Spurs game the other week.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Friday, 27 April 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

You'd think the FA could do with saving a few quid on their energy blls.

pandemic, Friday, 27 April 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

lets face it,he is a black fairy along with the white­ fairies getting paid loads of money for kicking a bag­ of wind about ,footballers hah bunch of over paid poofs­ and well over paid.

From Cliff, on Sat 28 Apr 0:28

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 27 April 2012 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/27042012/58/premier-league-jones-wins-court-case-perfect-alibi.html

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 27 April 2012 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

cliff is a great name for a racist

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 27 April 2012 23:44 (thirteen years ago)

Cliff, Dover (White)

we are not bemused (onimo), Friday, 27 April 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

over paid poofs­ and well over paid = early stage alzheimers?

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 27 April 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

Just a few weeks ago manager Tony Pulis successfully argued that he should be able to keep his driving licence despite being clocked doing 96mph in a 60mph zone.

Pulis's lawyer - the same Mike Stephenson who defended Jones - claimed that the manager should not be disqualified since he had to make deals while on the phone in his car, and if the £1m-a-year boss had a chauffeur driving him round, the confidentiality of those calls could be breached - potentially scuppering major transfers.

And Magistrates accepted the argument that the inability to deal while at the wheel could lead to relegation: "The people of Stoke could suffer if Mr Pulis lost his licence," Stephenson said in his winning argument.

r|t|c, Friday, 27 April 2012 23:53 (thirteen years ago)

mike stephenson, you are worth your weight in gold

r|t|c, Friday, 27 April 2012 23:54 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.beswicks.com/view/images/staff/michael_stephenson_big.jpg

a winning smile begets a winning argument

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 27 April 2012 23:56 (thirteen years ago)

cameron jerome crashes into the courtroom, trips over football, bulldozes entire prosecution, judge smiles and says "i'm going to allow this!" etc

r|t|c, Friday, 27 April 2012 23:58 (thirteen years ago)

that is a stoke city club lawyer if i ever saw one

bet pulis treated him to a big pie in a weatherspoons after

r|t|c, Friday, 27 April 2012 23:59 (thirteen years ago)

http://beta.ilxor.com/sandbox/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=141&threadid=1704#unread

worth keeping imo

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:20 (thirteen years ago)

Saha's verdict on 13 years in England: 'Yeah, I've been nearly great' Asked to sum up his career in eight words, Saha's first choice is 'paradoxical'

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:25 (thirteen years ago)

triffic conceptualisation e's got, e'll bring a lot to the team's vocabulary, wunnee?

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:27 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2136309/Louis-Saha-Ive-nearly-great.html

some of it is a bit comment box ramble ish but he does seem unusually eloquent and self-reflexive for a football player.....tho french players tend to be like that, maybe why it's not as easy to corral them into a team

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:31 (thirteen years ago)

it's cos they have time to think about shit while they're translating their thoughts from english into french imo

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:34 (thirteen years ago)

there are some like gerrard who seem reasonably intelligent despite their lack of formal schooling etc but the last interview i saw w/ scott parker made him seem borderline special needs

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:38 (thirteen years ago)

like obv he is bored and wants the interview to be over but it's like just give one tiny sign of metacognition and....no, the jaw moves but the eyes are utterly inert

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:40 (thirteen years ago)

i think a scan last year revealed that his brain has turned 90 degrees anticlockwise in his skull as a result of years of juddering impacts with the knees of players more prone to standing in a tackle. great heart tho, what a pro

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:40 (thirteen years ago)

if that was the case wouldn't he start passing forwards?

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:42 (thirteen years ago)

system thinking shows DEEMS EMPIRICALLY UNSOUND, REVERIFY JOKEY ASSERTION

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:43 (thirteen years ago)

it would explain why he's been insistent in his unchallengable commands to g bale to run from left to right across the pitch tho?

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:45 (thirteen years ago)

i think bale is clever enough to work out the whole team is fucked whatever he de does so he might as well pretend to be maradona than antonio valencia++

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:47 (thirteen years ago)

bale has turned into the player with mad stats on pro evo so you try to do everything with him and end up being shite

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 01:03 (thirteen years ago)

some 7 yr old algerian kid can't believe his luck as he repeatedly beats you using the only two buttons working on his joypad

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 01:04 (thirteen years ago)

So Bale will "discuss what's best for myself" if Spurs don't make CL.

pandemic, Saturday, 28 April 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

TRY PLAYING IN POSITION, SON

seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 April 2012 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

HA!

pandemic, Saturday, 28 April 2012 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

I think Bale, Modric and Adebayor are mentally out the door already sadly, they're just not that arsed about qualifying for the CL because they know fully well that a CL club would pick them up in a second.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 28 April 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

Adebayor is Adebayor, Modric has probably never fully settled after the Chelsea business, Bale needs a manager who will insist he plays where he's most effective.

seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 April 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

marin going to chelsea it seems

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

back up for Mata maybe. Or Di Matteo really doesn't fancy Sturridge on the right.

pandemic, Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

pan dem the general take on marin is he had a very good two seasons before but a kind of mediocre one this year, is that right?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

yeah

they're going to spend about 1/4 of portugal's national debt on tbtwp, hulk

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, absolutely.

He is very slight of frame which obviously can work in the Prem if you also have great technique. I'm not sure I would put his technique quite that high though. I don't really see him as an elite player, though he is certainly good. Then again I confidently predicted that after 2 games this season that Bayern wouldn't even make it out of their CL group, so.

xp

pandemic, Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

not worth fighting to keep bale or modric. you can't keep 30m players while you're only pushing for fourth and run a wage cap- the effect, as we've seen, is that they don't perform to 10m player standard. Ship em out, get in the next prospect/real madrid benchwarmer, let pienaar krancjar thudd and sandro turn themselves into the next 20-30m exiting superstars by actually performing. Spend the cash on a gk, two centre halves and a brick shithouse striker, give a new manager the job of finding them.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

ps i don't think pienaar krancjar et al will prove themselves 30m btw but i think we'd have been better off with dropping the above mentioned pair for underperformance before now.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

what game is worth watching, idc about stoke-arsenal. wigan-newcastle?

there seems to be a rise of exciting playmaker #10 types - idk if you can replace modric's centre circle play directly but spurs def have opportunities to reinvest in something special. bale i guess will be harder to replace but like d-mac says, if they spend that on two 10m centre halves, i dont think it'll be such a big deal if they are less effective on the left wing.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

I've gone with WBA-Villa. Extremely average so far.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

grr. stupid pen. given away by fulham.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

Watching and supporting Villa is absolutely soul-sucking this season.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

Mostly Villa but West Brom've walked through them twice in two minutes there, Odemwingie missing stupidly after good work by Long.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

p fucking crouch

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

Would you welcome relegation in some sense, EZ? For the catharsis, kind of thing.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

Oof, Wolves two-down in four minutes - someone should call off the very gentle dogs.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

Rvp scored. 1-1. I like our good-not-great older technical types when they actually play together. Rosicky and Benny Noon having a whole season together (and Arteta who is out today) would be fun.

Gervinho also playing really well for once.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan are 2-0 up - a goal for West Brom would put them above Villa...

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

Can't see why anyone who wasn't a Birmingham City fan would consider the relegation of an ever-present Premiership club like Villa to be a good thing. Sacking McLeish in the summer would be the way forward. Although going down doesn't seem to have done Newcastle any harm.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

I just don't want to lose the joy that is Venkys

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

That's the game up for Newcastle, probably? I feel like they had to keep this run going.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

I like Villa as a club - used to get along to see them semi-regularly years ago - but there's a longterm decline going on that badly needs turning round somehow.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

Also: big clubs going down is basically a good thing.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think people see it as a good thing, more they're astonished by the scale of the collapse - reminiscent of Hull three or four years ago, or Doncaster in the Championship last year, but it's more shocking cos, well, it's Villa.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea 4-2 Wolves!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

Sunderland equalise.

GoT SPOILER ALERT (Gukbe), Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

4-2!

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan and Sunderland 3-0 too! MOTD is gonna be sweet tomorrow morning.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

Christ on a bike, Wigan are 4-0 up.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

Christ Victor Moses

boxall, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool unshiftable in eighth too, really fancy us to take advantage and turn this into a points difference later.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan have only scored more than 2 goals once in the league this season. In one afternoon, they may have completely unfucked their goal difference.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

Would you welcome relegation in some sense, EZ? For the catharsis, kind of thing.

Sort of? I think it would force a rethink on the club, one which should have come several years ago. However, as a fan in the States I would never, ever get to see them play. So the selfish part of me wants to see them stay up, but I don't know if it's the best thing for the club in the long run.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

told ye newcastle weren't a runner for fourth. i'm still not writing off third for us, not that i've looked at a table in a month

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

Z on Twitter: "Barcelona should have gone for Wigan manager Roberto Martinez to replace Pep Guardiola."

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

West Brom should feel hard done there. Obvious handball not given.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/iHkZY.png

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

this game is horrible.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

4-0 to everton. think i'll watch something else.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

stoke-arsenal is a waste of time but i feel like something will happen so im not turning it off. better not be another shawxing but im not ruling it out.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

Sort of tempting fate, but I started to look up the last time EFC scored four in three consecutive league games just after halftime. And now we have! I've gone back as far as 1975-76 so far and...no dice. We managed 12 goals in 3 games a couple of times in the mid-'80s glory years (5/3/4) but not this.

Just makes the enfeebled Wembley nonsense worse really.

Michael Jones, Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

btw as i bring that up, stoke fans who boo ramsey's touch can die in a fire

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

Was that Hutton clearing off the line for Villa?!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

Wolves got another, only losing 4-3 now. Sunderland score again p much resigning Bolton to relegation.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

i dont hate stoke for the crazy fouling so much as hate them for their reaction to every cynical fuck foul. "I ONLY PUSHED HIM OVER REF FOR NO BLOODY REASON, IS THAT A CRIME NOW? THE TERRORISTS HAVE WON NOW YOU HAVE GIVEN A FREE KICK FOR ME KICKING HIS SHINS" etc.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

4-4!

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

Finally found a sequence to match this from Everton:
28/2/64 Aston Villa (H) 4-2
7/3/64 Spurs (A) 4-2
14/3/64 Nottm Forest (H) 6-1

48 years.

Michael Jones, Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

If there isn't a last-minute nude parachutist at West Brom, I'll've wasted my afternoon.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

Benny Noon had a decent penalty shout. It was at pace and Whelan (I think) puts his arms on his back. Benny went down v. easily and dramatically though, when he most probably could have had a good shooting chance if he stayed up.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

so i picked a good afternoon to take the kids swimming, basically

seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

Ball over the line for West Brom and not given apparently? (I couldn't bear to keep watching). Villa having the luck today. Typical of them to cash in by drawing 0-0.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

that cd wind up being a massive point for Villa. surely McLeish has got to go this summer?

seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

Hutton handled off the line earlier, then I'm sure it was him headed off the line a few minutes after that too.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

Looked like Given had his leg along the line. Definitely not conclusive. Definite deliberate hand ball in the box on a shot that would have been a goal for West Brom earlier.

Overall, Villa kicked the crap out of them (4 or 5 yellow cards, all legit), and West Brom should feel like the ref screwed them pretty hard.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

poor seb coates must be wondering what he has to do to get a game. wait for carra to retire i guess.

Chris, Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

Hutton handled off the line earlier, then I'm sure it was him headed off the line a few minutes after that too.

Cuellar boss

MPx4A, Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

just calculated that mcleish' teams have scored 151 goals in 150 epl games

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

Villa aren't even in long-term decline, it was only a couple of years ago they were in the running for the top four.

Bonkers day all round really. What the hell has Roberto Martinez done at Wigan?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

Urgh. Stupid defensive mistake by Norwich, and Liverpool are 1-0 up.

CraigG, Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

Could see us taking the season out on Norwich today, looks like we've got an idea for once.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

And again. Fuck sake. 2-0

CraigG, Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

2-0 as I type that, sublime finish. Walcottesque.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

great finishes

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

Absolutely. Suarez obviously annoyed by the comparison that Holt has scored more than he and Carroll combined...

CraigG, Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

Ref feeling sorry for us in the latter stages of that half I feel - got the benefit of some decisions that could have made this even more depressing at half time.

CraigG, Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

when/who are chelsea playin? have a feelin they'll make this an even better weekend for us

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

They're home to QPR. Not sure if that's good or bad for Spurs?

CraigG, Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

john terry

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

something

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

woodwork again

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

O_o how did Shelvey miss there?

CraigG, Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

I mean, phew, but...

CraigG, Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

thats the finishing we know and love

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck you Newcastle and your fucking fuck of a fucking loss to fucking Wigan. One fucking favour. That's all I asked. And you fucking lost. You and your fucking fantastic form and your fucking fantastic finishers. Fuck you.

Right, got to get something at Chelsea tomorrow.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

well fuck me

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

motherfucker.

CraigG, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

ever seen a better hat trick goal?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

3 amazing strikes.

CraigG, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

So sad right now.

CraigG, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

nice to see suarez being more technically perfect than usual

wigan had blackburn and wolves after this week anyway so i'd marked them down as out of the mix already tbh. still annoyed by their shitty existence of course

result is p good in a way cos we needed spurs perked up for blackburn/bolton/villa. dare i say it but rangers' fate is in their slippery hands

r|t|c, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

and nevermind blues and city, knowing us all too well it's the stoke game i'm seriously bricking it about

r|t|c, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

haha gerrard saying naughty words on live tv. ban him for the cup final!

Chris, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

i think that's the best lob i've ever seen

Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:37 (thirteen years ago)

Nayim>>>>>>>that

we are not bemused (onimo), Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

Ronaldinho lobbed free kick also vs Seaman >>>>>> that

we are not bemused (onimo), Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

nah

Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

Nayim was kind of a hit and hope. Ronaldinho we'll never truly know if he meant it

Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez lob was great but it was against Norwich in a dead rubber and the keeper was miles out. Context and opposition as well as technique make the others better.

we are not bemused (onimo), Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think Suarez meant that one... Ok, now I'm clutching at straws; it was an awesome finish. (Ruddy for England!). Why did he have to find form against us? Especially in the game where we could have caught them on points. I can see Norwich surviving solely on Goal Difference now, on this current run of form vs. the form of some of the embattled teams below us.

CraigG, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

Ronaldinho we'll never truly know if he meant it

Ah you'll be one of those English Men.

I suppose it happening before everyone (English) realised he could do that shit week-in week-out made it doubtable at the time but surely the next six years kind of showed that of course he fucking meant it he was the best player in the world.

we are not bemused (onimo), Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

dinho's was completely and obviously intentional. Don't know where that comes from.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

number none is one of those englishmen from donegal iirc

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

That's some awesome pessimism xp - you'd need three straight wins for Bolton & QPR, apart from your own form. If it actually happened, you'd've given up your goal advantage too most likely.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

English papers at the time were all "fluke goal" - truly bizarre efforts at passing it off as a lucky miss-hit cross.

we are not bemused (onimo), Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

no need to to accuse me of being English

Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

Did not know where Number None was from, sorry - I've only ever heard victims of that goal calling it anything other than brilliant.

we are not bemused (onimo), Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

Obviously Ronnie meant it - what's the alternative, he overhits a gentle twenty-yard lob by nearly twenty yards, and finds the top corner by a million-to-one chance?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

It's quite a different technique anyway. Suarez is on the run

Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

Even Beckham was standing still when he hit his

Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

nayim's does seem more hit n hope but idk that feels like such an irrational thing to say when he decided what to do and put it in the exact place it needed to go

i think maybe there are just certain illusions of perfect execution when it comes to lobs. agree that suarez's is more satisfying anyway, and yeah maybe it is the being on the run

best is le tiss v schmeichel 4ever (or are we gonna be hardcore about chips v lobs?)

r|t|c, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:52 (thirteen years ago)

Oh yeah, you can rely on some solid pessimism from me. Just can't see us taking anything from Arsenal. Honestly, though, I do feel confident we should take something from Villa, but who knows. We've just been so close to 'mathematical safety' for so long, and squandered our subsequent chances.

CraigG, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:52 (thirteen years ago)

fuck me we won a league game. kenny in.

Chris, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

xposts. just get a poll on the go already

Chris, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

Phillippe Albert vs Seaman was a peach too - on the run but closer in and well disguised vs top opposition in a big match.

we are not bemused (onimo), Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

my favourite chip is Suker on Schmeichel actually

Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

SChmeichel not Seaman

we are not bemused (onimo), Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

xxp stop being insane craig, norwich are safe as 'ouses even if you dont win another point

r|t|c, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

Schmeichel got made a fool of a few times

Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

deserved it for wearing a clown nose

we are not bemused (onimo), Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

i'm an albert man for pure chips, but letiss vs flowers is an example of the rare powerlob, crashed in from forty odd yards but nonetheless definitely a topspin effort.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

let's all agree that it's the coolest kind of goal anyway

Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

least cool lob ever is O'Shea against Arsenal

Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

coolest was cantona vs sunderland

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

combined with the celebration yeah

Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

wait did someone really forget rivaldo's bicycle up there

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

actually more impressed by suarez's second tbh, that shit was breathtaking

there's a terrifying moment in the celebrations for the third when you see suddenly see john hartson rocking up in a red shirt to congratulate the wee man, but thankfully no, it's just shelvey caught up in some latent cognitive haywire

r|t|c, Saturday, 28 April 2012 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

marcos senna against betis is my favourite lob.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 28 April 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YqI0G0IuFzo#t=152s

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 28 April 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

fuck me we won a league game. kenny in.

― Chris, Saturday, 28 April 2012 19:53 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

xposts. just get a poll on the go already

― Chris, Saturday, 28 April 2012 19:53 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbf i forgot kenny's name when i did it who will have the more lol liverpool career?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 28 April 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

oh you meant lobs v chips didnt you

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 28 April 2012 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

'lob' is american for popcorn

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001914171/192954393_41590_185894506172_6242242_n_xlarge.jpeg

mizzell, Saturday, 28 April 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

Karlheinz Riedle got a memorable. chip for Pool back in the day, against Leeds maybe? Its trajectory has stayed with me.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

kinda of want to start "itt: mike williamson" for some reason

newcastle defending like prats

ok apart from that fds one there

r|t|c, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

Di Santo's goal was pretty choice too

Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

Woo, Di Santo for Wigan's fourth while we're talking about chips.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

lol who was that glam old duck next to steve kean in the stands

r|t|c, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

fowler's bicycle chip too

Wigan Newcastle seems like about the game of the season

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

I reckon City-Arsenal was the best I've seen this season

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

but here's Swansea-Wolves, could be promising

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

dropping rodallega (and consequent adjustments) seems like the key factor in wigan's upswing

r|t|c, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

if sturridge, why not scott sinclair btw?

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

or dyer, or moses?

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

cos they are not as good

give moses another year and maybe

r|t|c, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

doyle to spurs pls, i'd take fletcher too.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

Is Doyler coming into form? Hope so

Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

graham's the one i rate at swansea after siggy

r|t|c, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

'as good' i dunno, seem more focused on end product as part of a system than the players that get picked for england tho.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

are there any also ran game lads who u wouldnt want to replace adebayor and modric

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

yeah but.. thats not a natural trait of theirs as players, that's cos theyre in part of a collective module designed to maximise their efforts

put sinclair on for studge for chelsea he'd be twice as bad, put studge in for sinclair at swansea he'd be twice as good

r|t|c, Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

graham looks interesting, kind of a discount rvp

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

no

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

sinclair once scored an aweaome goal for torquay or someone when he was about 13

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

no, to everything

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

kevin davies with probably the worst goal ever compared to mvb 88 assuming some ppl on a bolton forum somewhere have said that

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

well if not england in a jump, how bout lfc or yeah spurs for some of em, still feel bad we cast off w routledge so easily, think we owe eng u-21 wingers something. And we've needed the cover since tbh.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

McClean on the plane

Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

is jaaskelainen dead or sthing

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

the england b squad question is a thing and i will formulate a thread opener about it sometime.

If a bundle of near-relegates all hit unlikely form when needed what do we assume? Inspired management of the rythym of a team at the boss end of a season, slacking til now, the spirit of the trenches, ?

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

Everton killing it here

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

it's one of those words i struggle with, rhythm

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

Who's this guy on the interview?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

first-team coach. Jol didn't fancy it obv

Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

How many Europa League slots are there?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

was that napalm death

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:22 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool missed out finishing sixth last year, are Everton going to qualify from seventh?

Suarez' second gets better every time I see it

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:24 (thirteen years ago)

jol was sick today. he wasn't at the match.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

how many lobs did he try?

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

he was looking for the fancy hat-trick

Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

eh?gk should save, no crouch tbh

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

Ruddy doesn't exactly kill himself but the technique is sublime

Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

Seamanesque

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

they've never heard of Rivaldo either

Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

ugh what will it take to get stoke banned from football

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

^

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

30,000 fans with the genetic diversity of abt 17 ppl

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

was benayoun's leg caught there or not?

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

liam ridgwell still irresistibly hateful

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

was it yourself that drew the 'i am legend' goons

Is that truman capote

comparison before nakh?

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)

hutton a better gk than rb or human

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

better door than a window

Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

heh villa don't even *want* to score, bringing mcleish philosophy to brave new depths

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

"I'm not going to curl up and die"

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:49 (thirteen years ago)

eck refusing to 'curl up and die', presumably he's not willing to consider any fan request at all at this stage

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

unusually provocative question from the interviewer....

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

esprit d'iphonier

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

oh, gary

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

new depths from botoxed fuckface lineker

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

disanto's goal better than suarez's imo, but great hat-trick

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

taxi!

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

the internet tells me napalm death were on motd?

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

cockshrivelling stuff from the depthless ghoul

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

Lineker said that Stoke fans were abusing the player Aaron Ramsey
cos he once had his leg broken by a Stoke player?

GL says something like 'no need for that'

if I am understanding all this correctly then the lack of outrage at this is offensive
given the outrage that people in football are always announcing.

the pinefox, Saturday, 28 April 2012 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

yes, but you need to balance it against the fact that arsenal don't like it up em and stoke are best of british, so any strong criticism might be construed as suspect in the mccarthyist uk footballing fraternity

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

cf lineker's mocking of wenger's frustrations at whitehead's flop being worthy of a free while stoke butchered their way to another premier league point to add to the other accumulated booty of their several-year voyage

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

cockshrivelling stuff from the depthless ghoul

― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 23:54 (Yesterday) Bookmark

missed the motd 2nd half but i award this a gold star whatever it's about

r|t|c, Saturday, 28 April 2012 23:32 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't watch the game closely D-Mac, but I suppose I agree with your sarcasm insofar as it agrees with me

I have never liked Arsenal but please, attacking a player BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN VERY SERIOUSLY INJURED BY SOMEONE ON YOUR TEAM is barbaric. It's not a joke or 'ooh I don't think we need that'. I don't know why this acceptable when a lot of other crap notoriously is not.

the pinefox, Saturday, 28 April 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/ZcPo6.jpg

have we forgotten so soon?

r|t|c, Saturday, 28 April 2012 23:36 (thirteen years ago)

i agree fully with you PF!

i do think that the faint condemnation of stoke's thuggish crowd/tactics/existence can be contrasted very sharply with the fullblooded damnation consistently offered for 'foreign' offences such as diving, wenger complaining against roughhouse tactics, etc

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

holy crap di santo goty fuck a crouch

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 29 April 2012 06:41 (thirteen years ago)

told ya during the match that stoke fans are fucking neanderthals, much like their team.

so martinez has wigan playing an italian 3-4-2-1 and is beating all comers? feel like we need to look further into this, 3 at the back seems like the future.

orlandi header was flyyyyy. wolves just don't understand why its called a backLINE huh they are all over the shop

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 29 April 2012 06:54 (thirteen years ago)

this game is not showing vintage defending.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 29 April 2012 06:57 (thirteen years ago)

this has been p much the best week of football evah

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 29 April 2012 06:59 (thirteen years ago)

wtf is with the hype for the manchester derby? gary just called it probably the biggest game in premiership history, the papers i looked at at work last night said in 1 that it will LOL be watched by more people than the world cup final like wtf where did you pull that bullshit out from and that the tuesday when you can talk about it at work will be 'the best day of yr life'. like srs, they said TUESDAY WILL BE THE BEST DAY OF THE READERS LIFE in the Sun because we can talk to coworkers about City-Utd.

its just gonna be a shitty 1-1.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 29 April 2012 07:04 (thirteen years ago)

anyone get a rooney-at-everton vibe from mcclean?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 29 April 2012 07:08 (thirteen years ago)

xp yeah, I was going to query that last night. I'm quite interested in it and will no doubt watch, but biggest game ever? It'll be a dour affair I reckon, and I'm not really looking forward to it as such. The deadening hand of a Monday night kickoff isn't helping either.

I don't even feel like it's as big as the first game between them. It feels like there's not actually that much at stake, y'know? Utd will still win the league even if City do manage to beat them.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 April 2012 07:23 (thirteen years ago)

I know Utd have the easier run-in, but if City win the derby, they just need to win the two games (unless Utd go nuts in a game) because of goal difference.

GoT SPOILER ALERT (Gukbe), Sunday, 29 April 2012 07:30 (thirteen years ago)

It's not out of the question anymore, I just can't see it happening. Happy to be proved wrong obviously.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 April 2012 07:35 (thirteen years ago)

Wish I'd bought a ticket for today. But I was convinced - instead of just being pretty sure - the Rangers were going down when they went on sale. Still, I'm not putting £60 in Abramovitch's pocket, and I'm off to W12 to the Crown and Sceptre to drink and watch.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Sunday, 29 April 2012 08:15 (thirteen years ago)

xpost New trend in football appears to be to abuse someone who has suffered at your team's hands. Fully expecting Anton Ferdinand to get a ton of shit today - AF a) Didn't hear the original Terry incident b) Never complained to the police about it c) Has kept his mouth shut about it. But the Stamford Bridge "Murderers!" moron contingent doubtless blame him for being provocatively black within 30 yards of their idiot hero.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Sunday, 29 April 2012 08:19 (thirteen years ago)

Ramsey broke his leg in a game at Stoke following a tackle by Potters defender Ryan Shawcross in February 2010, and the centre-back has since been the subject of abuse from some Arsenal fans.

"I don't think you can be especially proud to boo Aaron Ramsey, I don't see what he has done wrong," said Wenger.

"It's an old story where the fans of Stoke stand behind their player but it shouldn't go as far as booing Ramsey."

Stoke manager Pulis refused to criticise his club's supporters but accepted there is a problem regarding abuse from the stands.

"It is very difficult for us all," he said. "I go to grounds and get abused.

"It's not just Arsene. If you speak to Sir Alex [Ferguson], he gets absolutely slaughtered at some grounds. Is it acceptable? The powers-that-be have got to decide that."

On the boos aimed at Ramsey, he added: "I was more concerned about the Arsenal supporters booing Shawcross so I didn't hear the ones on Ramsey."

yes tony, that is the exact same thing.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 29 April 2012 08:30 (thirteen years ago)

It is barbaric - and so is the CFC abuse of Ferdinand. It should be treated as seriously as the other kinds of abuse that are taken seriously.

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 09:10 (thirteen years ago)

It is a literalization of the phrase 'adding insult to injury'.
But that familiar phrase does not convey how shameful and wrong it is.

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 09:13 (thirteen years ago)

Jelavic's first touch for the chance he put onto the post y'day was quite something.

pandemic, Sunday, 29 April 2012 10:09 (thirteen years ago)

those pulis quotes are dreadful

he is just such a fucking remedial mouthbreathing lumpen

like even one of those rare occasions so completely indefensible that no serious person would ignore it, for him it's another springboard for TEAM STOKE

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

Utd will still win the league even if City do manage to beat them

Foolish talk. If City win the match, they'll win the league. If United win the match, they'll win the league. If it's a draw, United will *probably* win the league.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

enough with the mind games

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

i dont remember a single league game this close to the end of the season where things were quite so delicately poised betwen the contenders

some of the ynahtid-arsenal/chelsea game got a similar buildup but they werent the antepenultimate game of the season, and the outcome in any case wouldn't have been so definitive

i like that no matter how much the hack contingent go on about MIND GAMES, mancini still does his glowering impassive faux-mongface and answers MAYBE or IS FOOTBALL IS STRANGE to most questions, while ferguson's periodic snipes are flinty and half-hearted

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

ha xp

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

always nice to say antepenultimate, a baroque 25 yard plom of a word

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

Nani might be injured. Bugger

Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

BOOM!

pandemic, Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:33 (thirteen years ago)

Sweet from Sturridge there

pandemic, Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:33 (thirteen years ago)

i dont remember a single league game this close to the end of the season where things were quite so delicately poised betwen the contenders

Erm... it was exactly the same situation last season. United were 3 points ahead of Chelsea with three games to go when they met at Old Trafford. In fact, if anything it was closer as they were level on goal difference.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

And in 2008, Chelsea v United with three games left, United were leading by three points, Chelsea won that to go level on points (but still lost the league on the final day).

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

Looks like it's going to be a massacre.

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

oh awesome I actually want Chelsea to win this match, thanks for this Eck, great stuff

MPx4A, Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

Torres, 3-0 already. Inept.

pandemic, Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

4-0 Torres. Super-inept.

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

this is ridic

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

maaaan this is going to be ugly for QPR

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

It just doesnt get any worse than this

God, if ur out there destroy jt with a mighty crack of lightning and lets get this vile & immoral farce abandoned

r|t|c, Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

far be it from me to rain on others' schadenfreude, but this run needs a Stalingrad and soon

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

no-one ever goes five up before half-time do they...?

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

Pretty sure this is the worst thing I have ever seen

r|t|c, Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

QPR fucking up their goal difference big time.

Spurs temporarily down to 6th, Everton could still catch 'em.

Also last nights MOTD, Alan Hansen sneering at qualifying for the Europa Lge. FUCK OFF ALAN!

pandemic, Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

A couple of minutes later Sturridge drove into the area, only for Ferdinand to kick the ball away to safety. Cue the expected boos from the home fans.

chelsea fans vs stoke fans

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

fitba fans are mostly terrible sometimes worse sometimes chelsea or stoke fans

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

Booing of Ferdinand is drowning out the commentary at times. Definitely not a small minority.

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

qpr looked pretty solid against us, maybe they can pull out a second half performance

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

Torres hat-trick.

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

happy for the guy

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

Well done Nando!

pandemic, Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

what I want to know is, what does this do to Mark Hughes?

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

Hopefully RDM will give him a patronising pat on the head at the end.

pandemic, Sunday, 29 April 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

Another ex LFC striker gets on the scoresheet. Still time for another red card as well Djibs.

pandemic, Sunday, 29 April 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

Graham Taylor on R5 splutters

--- who is going to be the first player, to TWITTER, their manager's half-time team talk ???

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

So naive. As if the players actually listen at half-time.

pandemic, Sunday, 29 April 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

so, pandemic, that's exactly my POINT, actually, that you've MADE, that in a way, the PLAYERS are not even LISTENING, they're playing with their Twitter, and that's how football has CHANGED, since I came into the game. I'm not saying it's right or it's wrong but THAT'S how it IS, and we need to, in a sense, REALIZE that.

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

This could be a long afternoon for Blackburn.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 29 April 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

ehh that's one way to react to Lennon missing an open goal after 60 seconds

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 29 April 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

sandro so much more talented than brave h'english water carrying retard parker

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

they're both quite good

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

Blackburn are getting every bit as battered as QPR were earlier, except in this case it's going to result in them scoring from a hopeful hoof over a sleeping Gallas

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 29 April 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

lol steve kean cribbing off martinez

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

really glad Bale and Lennon have swapped sides, that's a fresh and zingy approach sure to fox these simple Lancastrians

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 29 April 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

is dann even worse than roger johnson

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

Why do they do that? What is even the point?

I'm not watching the game, I can't bear it.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 29 April 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

VDV 1-0

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 29 April 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

amazed, Tottenham have scored a goal

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

from a cross from Lennon back on the right again, don't try and learn from that or anything tho

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 29 April 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

ok haha at first i thought that ball hadn't gone anywhere near in the net and wasn't given, but the guy just ran off celebrating anyway.

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 29 April 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

what I like about this on radio is it sounds like Spurs are knocking the ball around between them for minutes on end

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

not too far off tbh, doubt Blackburn have put more than five or six passes together thus far

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 29 April 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

im no longer watching it but blackburn looked waste, tottenham in that agitated mode full of 40m crossfield passes but blackburn still failing to pick up runners

if tottenham fail to win it then they will have, literally, exceeded themselves

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

today's liveblogger 'Phil Dawkes, BBC Sport' is like the harry hill to jonathan 'stevo' stevenson's paul whitehouse

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

Just back from pub. Fucking hell Rangers.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

spurs playing v well tbh, lennon should just run round his man more tho, 'beating' him is for players of lesser pace.

Parker's good, sandro's good, not quite the same role .

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

I want to like Danny Rose more than I do but he seems a bit of a weak link in his role today

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

Come on Spurs.* My dad always liked you.

*Applies in Bolton match, too.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

wtf at Yakubu being subbed

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

rose is no left back, decent third choice lw tho

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

Nice

Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

oh wow

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

fuck yeah

first goal from a FK this season yes?

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

BOOOM

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

was there a deflection?

Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

nope

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

how will u feel if tottenham finish fourth and chelsea win the cl thereby consigning u to the europa league?

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

how'd you think

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

stoical imo

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

roberto di matteo looks vaguely like a harlequin foetus

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

Attempts on goal TH 16 Blackburn 0.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

p staggered at how shit Blackburn were, I can't think of one player who did anything to elevate himself above adequacy

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

if Chelsea had had them instead of QPR today it'd've been about 15-0

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

OptaJoe on Twitter: "0 - Blackburn have become the first team not to manage a single shot (inc blocks) in a PL game since WBA v Man City in Dec 2004. Blunt."

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

It was deflected. Rubbish goal tbf

Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

somehow despite our terrible form, our earlier form was good enough that we can still be 4th

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

West Bromwich Albion have given the FA leave to speak to Roy Hodgson about the vacant England manager job, the FA says

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

haha

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

i was going to do a roy hodgson appreciation thread last week

i am convinced he is a mensch, possibly the only one in (english) football, and despite what chris was saying the other day

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

the reason i didn't do the thread was that i couldn't find a good clip of him speaking italian on youtube, he has the best accent for italian

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

xp Does he? and Swedish also?

Nakchivan, I am glad to agree with you.
I love Roy Hodgson.
He is my favourite manager currently working in the UK game.
He has dignity, intelligence, eloquence, decency that few others show.

I don't, of course, claim that he would be a success as England manager.

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

this IS kind of fun

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/apr/29/roy-hodgson-england-fa

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqkF3O7qrUM

here he is speaking german (after the obese guy stops speaking german)

i have an a* gcse in german which means i can undertstand the words 'fussball' and 'ich'

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

hodgson's a good manager, never said he isn't, but it's hilarious how he's portrayed as this erudite, wise figure. he's a bullshitter of the highest order, he plays 'don't get beat' football, and if his time at liverpool's anything to go by then fuck knows how he'll handle the pressure of managing england. bring it on.

Chris, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

HA HA HA HA HA HA

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think he'll succeed at England at all - if it happens (maybe it's a flash in the pan story)
I don't have that much of a view of him 'as a manager' - ie I don't think he'll 'bring success'
I agree that he thrives on organizing lower-table players, not top ones

but, I also think he is an unmistakably decent, dignified man and his intelligence and, yes, erudition happen to be far higher than most people's in football. (He has read about 20 x as much Saul Bellow and Philip Roth as I have.) This would be true even if he was a disaster as a coach.

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

"It doesn’t bother me because I can’t do more than I am doing, I can’t work harder, I can’t work better."

Chris, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

For the national game development side of the job, he's the best candidate imo. For the national team manager side of the job he could well be a disaster imo.

This should be fun.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

He's been given permission to go in for an interview, as will the other candidates. He won't get the job.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

There aren't any other candidates, though?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

the statement says he's the only manager that's been approached

Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

and given that wording, i assume it's already been agreed behind the scenes

Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

i don't see the contradiction between the claims supposedly made for his wisdom/erudition and his cautious approach to football

before cruyff and barcelonaism, 'don't get beat' was the foundation of most advanced footballing thought

i don't think he is an 'erudite' thinker-about-football manager like bielsa or sacchi or maybe lobanovski and zaccheroni, but he is certainly clever

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:04 (thirteen years ago)

there is something about the ability to think in different languages that I find intellectually impressive
I am thus terrifically impressed by the casualness with which RH talks German in that clip - in just the same sort of amiable way he would talk English

moment c.4:45 when he clearly cheerily tells the German bloke, 'ey, and Germany have a chance too, mate!'

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:04 (thirteen years ago)

He's probably the nearest to Graham Taylor there is, which isn't a criticism though in this context might as well be.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

His erudition is not football-specific -- that's my point

I don't claim that he's a great manager, I just think he's a genuinely intelligent and knowledgeable man who seems also unusually nice.

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

totally

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

It's like when Curbishley went into meet the FA a few years back and the Sun assumed he was about to be offered the job.

it's hilarious how he's portrayed as this erudite, wise figure. he's a bullshitter of the highest order, he plays 'don't get beat' football

This can be safely written off as Liverpool fan myopia - his Liverpool team was shite but his teams at Fulham and West Brom haven't played like that at all. I also like his stanning for Updike and Milan Kundera, which within the football world basically makes him Einsten.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

re England, I think he'd do slightly better if he had the players every week; but training once every couple of months, or whatever, I can't see what he can bring to it.

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

the statement says he's the only manager that's been approached

Yet.

Why would the FA only approach one manager, even given they've had headhunters doing the initial selection? It doesn't make sense.

The only rationale I can think behind it is that the other contenders would cost more, in terms of wages and getting them out of their contracts, than the FA are prepared to pay.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

ok, he's obviously a bright chap, but jesus the shite he came out with at liverpool was just incredible. i can forgive the football, we knew what were getting when he got the job, i blame purslow for that. but shifting responsibility, claiming he can't work harder, slagging off the fans and his players in public, and spreading lies about the man he replaced? no thanks.

Chris, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

there are probably a lot of clever football managers but most seem intellectually incurious

the only times i can ever remember mourinho alluding to the lived world beyond football were when he mocked abramovich for 'shopping at waitrose' for discount players like tal ben haim, and when he said there were many famous theatres in catalonia (a clunkily spiteful reference to lionel messi's playacting)

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe 'arry let it be known he didn't want the job? By doing it publicly it would make any appointment look like second choice. Still, lets wait and see.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

Bernstein said: "Roy is the only manager we have approached and we remain on course to make an appointment within the timescale we set out.

"Further conversations will now take place with Roy."

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

he probably can't work harder
he probably works a lot harder than I do, and harder than most footballers do
he is in his 60s anyway

re world beyond footy, Fergie ought to be able to refer to Govan shipyards but doesn't

I guess none of us know the truth yet re whether RH is really likely to get the job. Maybe he wouldn't even accept it if offered.

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

he probably works a lot harder than a lot of people who, like me, sometimes post to www messageboards do

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

btw I get the impression Redknapp works hard too
he gets up at 5 every day anyway to drive to work

I think most managers work very hard and I think a lot of players don't

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

I can't actually think of any manager who seems lazy.

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

I think Hodgson is a bit too frank for the England job really. He'll do something like claim England probably won't win the next World Cup and The Sun will go apoplectic. Also The Sun can usually be relied upon to get butthurt if they don't get their man in.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

I suppose he'd get a ton of cash from it including a payoff when fired, all of which he could pass on to his children. That might be reason enough to do it.

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

i'm sure he didn't twiddle his thumbs all day, but don't tell us you can't work harder, and certainly don't tell us that you can't work better, because i don't think he did near as well as he should have done with his 35 years of experience. he does seem like a decent enough guy i suppose, but god we saw the absolute worst of him, there's no doubt about that.

Chris, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)

England is like Liverpool plus, is my fear for him. At least the FA, by letting Harry fuck up his season first, have (probably) managed to avoid hobbling Roy from day one.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

curiously Redknapp has been talking this week about building the future at Tottenham ... could conceivably connect with idea that he has quietly turned England down

but of course we all know that Spurs form has been terrible anyway and queered a pitch or two

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

I mean, one can just about conceive Redknapp not going to England, and getting replaced at Tottenham too
(not really, but a bit)

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think it's a question of Redknapp turning down the England job, it's the FA turning down Redknapp. I heard a month ago that 3 out of the four-man committee didn't want him.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:32 (thirteen years ago)

more importantly, are our kids still playing 11 v 11 on full size pitches?

Chris, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

how about you as Hodgson's assistant with responsibility for youth team planning?

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

more now:

No approach has been made to Tottenham's manager, Harry Redknapp, who had been viewed as the favourite to succeed Fabio Capello.

Hodgson is out of contract in the summer, meaning the FA would not have to pay any costly compensation or become involved in any wrangling with the club.

That is in contrast to the situation at Spurs, who would expect hefty compensation were the FA to approach them about Redknapp.

Hodgson has coached the Switzerland and Finland national teams with considerable success in the past. He has also been successful on limited resources at West Brom, for whom he signed an 18-month contract last February after a disappointing spell at Liverpool.

West Brom said in a statement: "The club are currently in negotiations with Roy about a new contract – his current deal ends on June 30 – and remain very keen to bring these talks to a successful conclusion.

"However, Roy has expressed a desire to explore this opportunity and, accordingly, the club have granted him permission to speak to the FA."

Peace added: "Roy has done a fantastic job over the past 15 months and the fact the FA want to discuss the England role with him is testament to that.

"Roy is a proud Englishman and we can understand why he wants to speak to the FA about this highly-prestigious managerial position.

"However, we have emphasised to Roy how much we would like him to remain as our head coach and continue his major contribution to our project at the Hawthorns as we look to establish ourselves as a Barclays Premier League club.

"Everyone here has an excellent working relationship with him and he is immensely popular with our supporters."

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

already sent my cv

Chris, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

It is kind of damning that we have to wait for your appointment before any of the nation's qualified coaches can stop their groups of kids from playing elevens and move to fives or sevens instead.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

HR is always said to have 'media support' but I think RH has had some too

Paul Hayward, now back at Telegraph, is close to him I think

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

i'd imagine it's cuz he tries to be helpful and in even though he isn't good at prepackaged slogans and cant ('mind games' as they're now called) he will deliver lengthy and thorough answers

wenger is like this too -- he still suffers the odd bit of tabloid boorishness during periodic lows, but he is generally genial and forthcoming at press conferences and hacks appreciate it

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

/and in even

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

realizing that something I like about all this is

that the FA are not just following an agenda set for them by 'media narratives'
or doing what seems line of least resistance (well, OK, RH is cheaper)
but making their own minds up and blithely ignoring assumptions that every journo has treated as certainties

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

England is like Liverpool plus, is my fear for him. At least the FA, by letting Harry fuck up his season first, have (probably) managed to avoid hobbling Roy from day one.

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, April 29, 2012 8:28 PM (1 hour ago)

deep into the counterfactual rabbit hole here, but if tottenham had continued their pre-springtime form then i expect redknapp would have been thrust into the job on a tsunami of tabloid hype

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

the totenham slump has merely given the FA some ~pausa~ as guardiola would say, and they have looked around and elected for the humble itinerant rather than the flashy barrow boy

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

I'm actually a bit annoyed about this as I kinda want Redknapp gone now.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

If we finish sixth there may be a chance of that, i suppose. It's receding, though.

If England have a horrible tournament, it's entirely possible that the Redknapp bandwagon will start rolling again near the start of next season. Might be safer to kick him out now.

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

Guardian is saying Hodgson will be England manager

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

only today, Observer column on England / Redknapp, implying that it would happen -- odd what hacks don't know

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

Pulis on MotD2

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

Pulis should get the England job. He knows the British style of play that footballers in this country are best at.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

we'll see if Spain can win on a rainy wednesday night in Kiev

GoT SPOILER ALERT (Gukbe), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

Is this Tony Pulis rap for real?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

hodgson won't last till the end of the year as england boss.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

nice display name

Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

lfc hatchet job on hodgson is so unfair and so tiresome chris.

hodgson gave it straight even when the fans didn't want to hear it, rafa and dalglish have played to that gallery to the detriment of the club on many occasions. refusing to feed the persecution complex when the real problems at the club were bequeathed him by the previous manager and the same ownership issues that so excused benitez.

Football under hodgson wasn't any worse than latter benitez, results not much different from then through dalglish, this is all just blatantly driven by hodgon's disinclination to pander to the YNWA hardcore. Orwell would have a field day.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

hodgson's results were worse than benitez's. about the same as dalglish's.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

like win lose draw percentages. no references im afraid.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

MotD2:

1. sucking up to Pulis and Stoke with lamentable 'irony'

2. all the 'football people' saying 'I was sure it was gonna be Arry'. Being 'in the game' doesn't seem to have given them much superior insight.

Pulis says 'EVERYBODY wanted it to be Harry - fans, media, everybody' -- how many fans has he talked to?

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

latter benitez, latter benitez. dude wasn't sacked cos he was fucking performing miracles, now, was he.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

Come on darragh, you think that's going to play any better with England than it did with Liverpool?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

whether it does or doesn't play well with morons doesn't change that i admire hodgson's refusal to play the cheap game.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

not a scouser or LFC fan so I don't comment on RH at LFC but I think it's a pity if that brief period at LFC is viewed as main thing about RH's career -- though, OK, they are the biggest job he has done, save possibly Inter.

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

as an outsider, I didn't have any problem at all with Hodgson's stoical statements during the LFC period
LFC fans seemed to, though.

I don't identify with the vitriol because, strange to say, I am not vitriolic about eg Ramos, Graham, Francis, Christian Gross. I kind of like every Tottenham manager, for being Tottenham manager - see them as one of us, to a degree.

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

whereas D-Mac doesn't even like Jol!

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

i'm untainted by club allegiance, yes!

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

Very funny, I agree...or is it?

If you think of it in the broader context, this is another dig by the FA at Liverpool FC, a figurative slap in the face and a clear indication of the prejudice we (the club) were up against during the Evra FArce...'how dare we sack a nice Establishment man like Roy?!...those Scousers, they're absolute scallies, a disgrace to English football and need to be taught a lesson at the earliest opportunity!'.

Which didn't take too long in coming....

caek, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

is that from RAWK

Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

yes, booming thread http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=292843.0

caek, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

yawn

Chris, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

i mean the 'no worse than latter day benitez' thing is nonsense mate. did you actually watch hodgson's liverpool week in week out? rafa's worst was about a million times more desirable than hodgson's best, and no that's not some blind faith in benitez shit either. i wasn't over the moon about hodsgon getting the job but i gave him a chance and was actually impressed with him early on. but he brought the vitriol on himself with the negative shite he came out with and the dour football. utopia to beat everton? fuck off. northampton formidable? fuck off a bit more you prick. that's not making the fans realise hicks and gillette were nasty and we should be grateful for winning a derby, a fixture that we've actually won a few times, it was defeatist bollocks.

Chris, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:24 (thirteen years ago)

hodgson gave it straight even when the fans didn't want to hear it

that's the kindest interpretation of all his dumb deluded interviews i've ever read.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

deems otm in general, sloppy with the particulars

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

i've been drinking since three tbf

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:32 (thirteen years ago)

he wasn't even giving it straight. he was shifting the goalposts and lowering expectations to mask his inadequacies, selling wins against bolton and trabzonspor as 'famous victories'. fuck off.

Chris, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:32 (thirteen years ago)

warhol reference, shows erudition

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

Just saw Terry's celebration from today. Ugh

Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

after getting walloped by everton he said it was their best performance of the season. he talked himself into the sack at lfc.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

rafa guaranteeing fourth didn't make anything better, and i'd say lowering expectations was a fair strategy given the position.

Genuinely cannot see how anyone could claim that hodgson's terrible football differed from benitez's terrible football. Dalglish's lfc play much better but not to much greater effect, but that's by-the-by. My ridiculous bias against benitez fuels my stanning for hodgson, but i think it's fair to note the same and opposite effect also.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

like I say - I don't think RH did very well at LFC - but I don't get the vitriol, the level of anger that endures, cos I have never felt that way about a Tottenham manager. And LFC have moved on.

Maybe LFC fans would say they are a bigger club with higher expectations than us and that is why.

BBC site: 'broadsheet' - OK - but a depressing conclusion:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/england/17890094

The Daily Telegraph's football correspondent Henry Winter fully expects Hodgson's appointment to be confirmed but says there will be doubts from some quarters about him getting the job.

"I think there will be a lot of doubts among the England fans," he told BBC Radio 5 live.

"Personally, I think he is a decent choice. I would certainly back him, certainly now that it is clear the FA has turned away from Harry Redknapp.

"I've interviewed Hodgson down the years and he is a very deep thinker. One way of summing him up is that he is a broadsheet man in a tabloid world. He is almost a professor type character when people want soundbites and players want short team-talks.

"So, he is going to have to change his style of management and style of news conference if he is going to succeed in the job."

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

i mean are you really saying rafa or dalglish give it the unvarnished truth in the media, or is their rubbish more palatable than hodgson's by dint of fuelling the unjustified expectations and paranoia that seem at times to matter more than reality to a sizeable section of the lfc fanbase? i think hodgson viewed that bubble as something to be dealt with before the club could be run the way he wanted it to be run, but he underestimated how hard the fans would cling to it tbh. By the end he was probably trolling that section, but i'm not gonna cast the first stone there.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

my point is that rafa's worst season still produced excellent football against the likes of man utd and atletico madrid, and we won a number of our home games emphatically - there were still positives and things to build on. roy's best? i'm struggling. beating chelsea at home with 11 men behind the ball for 90 minutes? yeah that was probably it.

Chris, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

imagine being a henry winter in a martin samuel world

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

anyway i like hodgson very much, and don't think he deserves the england job.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

actually I had impression that LFC 2-0 CFC was a really good performance, just from radio and highlights

Winter is probably a nasty person, like the tabloid hacks? but I don't think Hayward is; he is into fan consortiums, etc

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

I suppose a question is, how unpleasant is this going to be for Hodgson?
like DM, I like RH so much that I don't want him to do something that is hurtful to him
but, it's a lot of money - maybe.

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:49 (thirteen years ago)

hodgson was a naive idiot with the press when in charge of lfc. what a manager says is tied to the results at a given time, and hodgson came out with rambling insane rubbish most of the time. dalglish or rafa may have come out with partisan or ott bullshit, but hodgson's interviews were distinct from that in their jaw-dropping stupidity and ignorance of how fans think and of the games they related to.

this now doesn't matter but it should be fairly funny when he starts waffling on about england without a care in the world and gets swiftly ditched.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

like I say - I don't think RH did very well at LFC - but I don't get the vitriol, the level of anger that endures

i don't like hodgson because he treated us like fools and because he lied about benitez by saying he treated dalglish like shit. fuck off roy.

Chris, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

the broadsheet/tabloid binary doesn't really exist for sports journalism, since hayward and samuel don't seem drastically different writing between the two

which is to say, it does exist since the sun is resolutely grotty, but the daily mail is a 'broadsheet' for football purposes

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

I hope it's a lot of money.

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

only in the world of football is someone who has read a book that doesn't have an accompanying blockbuster automatically "a deep thinker"

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

martin samuel is supposedly being paid £400,000 shiny rothermere shillings per annum

hodgson, an order of magnitude more i imagine

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

rafa fits iago better than woy imo, but we're never going to sway each other on it. benitez often let players and other employees take unfair flak for his poor decisions.

t/s woy's most insane press meet vs rafa's or kk's?

woy's biggest whopper of a mistruth vs rafa's or kk's?

worst waste of money? worst pr disaster? worst run of results?

Or just base it all on 'worst at peddling the line that we're about to turn a magical corner and everyone is against us'?

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9h_WaAYcmc

surprising discord

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:02 (thirteen years ago)

Hodgson has read, I think, something like the whole of Bellow and Roth.

I'm not sure about that but I think I have seen it stated in print. Or even if he hasn't, let's say half of each author's work - which is thousands and thousands of pages.

I don't know very many people who have done that.

I don't, myself, think RH is a deep thinker. But he is well read, unusually eloquent, and multilingual, which, as I suggested upthread, is an intellectual achievement in itself.

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:02 (thirteen years ago)

Why anyone would care so fervently about managers putting 'spin' on their results in the media is really beyond me.

boxall, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

i don't really think roy's as terrible a human being as i'm making out. he does seem decent, and he's a good manager obv. just ya know, handle with care.

Chris, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

kenny dalglish prefers to elide results totally and concentrate on the sterling work of liverpool's commercial negotiators

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

He is almost a professor type character when people want soundbites and players want short team-talks.

AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

Hodgson at Liverpool was a mess. As much as I like being a contrarian when it comes to that club and its supporters, you can't help but admit it. I remember watching that team play a weak Villa and get absolutely played off the park. They seemed so lost. But it wasn't just Hodgson's fault. The near-bankruptcy board problems have seemingly been forgotten and which is something he won't have at England. He also won't have to pick apart a failed squad of Rafael Benetiz (although adding Konchesky to them wasn't exactly a wise decision.) Oh and his reign started with the court trial of his captain beating someone up in a nightclub.

Liverpool seemed like such a mess on all fronts that I give him the benefit of the doubt. He has had a decent career elsewhere. He rebuilt Inter and made it to a European final with them, iirc. He did the same with Fulham. His WBA side plays with poise and depending on the form of their more exciting players, can be a joy to watch.

He also has previous managing countries and is coming into the spot when the Sun and their savagesreaders view whoever takes the job with about as much sympathy as their ever going to get. Expectations aren't high. Everyone knows England are a mess and that the boat needs to be steadied first and foremost. I don't expect Woy to do any of this 'pick Paul Scholes' 'Arry wackiness. I expect realisation that we are Grant Holt country until someone works out ways otherwise.

Everyone has picked up on his intelligence and respectable oldmanness. 'Arry was never the guy to sort out English football. The media wanted him because the inevitable fall would be a delicious story. No-one in the immediate future is going to win anything with England, failure is the only option. But Woy seems like he could use his wise elder statesman bit to get somethings to change. He might actually look into youth player development, for example, or try to get the Premiership people to stop trying to take a massive dump in the mouths of the Lower Leagues.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:24 (thirteen years ago)

there is this element to the story that I keep coming back to, namely ...

the fact that it has surprised everyone / upset their narrative / no one saw it coming
it all gets rationalized in retrospect - 'the FA want someone who lives near St George's Park' - but I have never read that as criterion before (though I have heard HR on south coast as a problem)

there is this weird way that 'football people' turn out to have been very ignorant about what was going on
while talking constantly like they knew what was going on (cf Shearer, Hansen, asked about Redknapp any time in last year or so?)

but they don't then reassess and admit flaws in their (systems) thinking and think about better ways of gathering and assessing information, or not talking BS in future.

and future problem = the fact that this was unexpected may create 'media narrative' vs Hodgson, 'should have been Redknapp' etc - bad for England, probably

(seems like I am suddenly an England fan again if RH gets the post)

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

i agree, i think wrongfooting the media narrative is a bad way to start. Their backing would have been a positive for redknapp.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

i suppose i still won't watch england and generally would rather they continued to fail, but insofar as possible i hope hodgson is saved from the worst excesses of the vermin at the sun

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:37 (thirteen years ago)

i want to see him parading the world cup around anfield tbqfh

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:40 (thirteen years ago)

he could win the world cup with say, belgium in 2014

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, even better obv, or us.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:44 (thirteen years ago)

D-mac, to be honest McClaren had media backing to start with!

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

(why 'TBH' I don't know. just a fact I think)

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

well it won't save you, but it's haf a start to a fair go at justified failure.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:52 (thirteen years ago)

the sun piece is predictably graceless and spiteful

A manager, though, who is not quite so comfortable with strong-minded, independent top-flight internationals

OUR BRAVE BOYS

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:54 (thirteen years ago)

'strong-minded, independent'

EBJT, Lampard, Cole.
Hart, R Ferdinand, Rooney

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:56 (thirteen years ago)

wait, what did Hart do?

Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:57 (thirteen years ago)

I am sick of the capacity of these tosser players to dictate and undermine things - they probably don't have any interest in what the manager says, if it's not Fergie or Mourinho

agree, Hart hasn't done anything specially bad yet but does seem very arrogant and 'untouchable' and is at richest club in world

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:59 (thirteen years ago)

whoever gets the job shd start by dropping anybody strong-minded and independent, maybe pick a team that can take instruction.

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 April 2012 05:47 (thirteen years ago)

Carlos Tevez says he wants to stay at Manchester City. More news to follow...

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 07:41 (thirteen years ago)

if anyone can be found to buy him he should be let out ta fuck, dropped at the gates and his bag thrown after him. sickening arse.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 07:43 (thirteen years ago)

Once the season's over they should permanently drop him but not sell him, instead keeping him inside a giant hamster wheel for fitness, to be let out in case they ever have another wobble.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 07:54 (thirteen years ago)

Hodgson should have been given the England job after Hoddle left. At that point, his stock was unarguably highish, and his tactical acumen was still undoubted. Would have been a ton better than Keegan.

Amused by columnists this morning all furiously saying the players had all publicly said they wanted Arry. Well, when asked to say how much they wanted Arry:
Hack: "How would you feel about Arry being England manager."
Player: "Obviously he's very much so a real football man and at the end of the day that's got to be 110% good for England."

They would have given the same answers if asked how they felt about Graham Turner, Pol Pot or Scooby Doo.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Monday, 30 April 2012 08:14 (thirteen years ago)

turner wouldn't of past fit and proper person test tho

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 08:35 (thirteen years ago)

What happens if Hodgson goes to the Euros and oversees a disastrous first-round exit?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 30 April 2012 08:38 (thirteen years ago)

everybody's happy?

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 08:42 (thirteen years ago)

xpost Graham Turner, unlike Hodgson or Arry, has international tournament wins on his CV – the Welsh Cup.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Monday, 30 April 2012 08:45 (thirteen years ago)

lol xp

caek, Monday, 30 April 2012 08:51 (thirteen years ago)

I feel everyone's at opposite ends of a scale on Roy's time at Liverpool/standing as an intellectual colossus and that the truth is somewhere in the middle. His Liverpool reign was ultimately unsuccessful even allowing for the problems around him at the club. His record with most of his other teams has been very good - he's mostly a good manager.

As for the intellectual colossus thing, well compared to his incurious peers he's clearly well read, thoughtful, engaging, etc. but he's still prone to saying some stupid things (particularly when at Liverpool). Maybe it's to his credit that he didn't want to disingenuously feed the masses a get out of jail YNWA sound-bite or talk diversionary nonsense about commercial deals but it shows a lack of nous imo that he was effectively talking himself out of what could have been a great job for him if he'd bought himself more time.

we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 30 April 2012 09:13 (thirteen years ago)

5 million scots can enjoy the rest of the tournament
xxxxps

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 30 April 2012 09:14 (thirteen years ago)

onimotm of course, but i'm here to provide balance

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 09:22 (thirteen years ago)

How much of the job is BEING ENGLAND MANAGER and how much is resources, tactical strategy, overseeing youth development, etc.? Because if it's all about pleasing hacks and motivating self-entitled multimillionaires, things may get bleak for Roy.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 09:31 (thirteen years ago)

it's about the latter so that they listen to and follow the tactics, the hacks can be disregarded (or will fawn) if you manage that.

Really hoping he does what we thought capello would do- drop drop drop anyone with a hint of entitlement in their attitude or performance, start with a template of decent 'b' team players he can crack the whip over if needed.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 09:36 (thirteen years ago)

I don't know how he can pick Gerrard at least. His skied penalty against Blackburn to get Roy sacked (I think that was the final straw?) is the most shocking thing I've seen a player do outside of sundry deliberate Shawcrossings.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 09:44 (thirteen years ago)

hmm i've always shied away from calling that tbh, only he'll ever know.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 09:45 (thirteen years ago)

Did he deliberately miss that penalty? Also I want to know what Chris meant about Woy "spreading lies" about Rafa. Saying "Rafa signed some expensive, shit players" doesn't count.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 30 April 2012 09:46 (thirteen years ago)

Can't ever be sure obviously, but the way he carefully sidefooted it a foot over is very suspect imo. Especially in the immediate context, when you'd expect him to have smashed it.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 09:51 (thirteen years ago)

woy initimated that rafa treated dalglish badly, who knows if he did or not? rafa treated plenty of people badly, as i'm sure woy and dalglish themselves have done to get to the top of football management.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 09:55 (thirteen years ago)

Wonder if Redknapp will want the England job post-tournament? 'Cos that next 2 years is the boring bit, slogging through qualification with half a dozen games a year, no glory possible.

pandemic, Monday, 30 April 2012 10:23 (thirteen years ago)

It's also the bit where you win games.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 30 April 2012 10:25 (thirteen years ago)

True, but followed by a tournament in South America where England have even less chance than normal.

pandemic, Monday, 30 April 2012 10:30 (thirteen years ago)

How much of the job is BEING ENGLAND MANAGER and how much is resources, tactical strategy, overseeing youth development, etc.?

Does anyone know the answer to this? Because I can't see Harry being interested in the second bit, and you suspect nor could the panel.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

you can seperate tactics into 'putting them in the right place' and 'telling them to do the right things', but really it's baffling how often (i) has been a struggle for HR since xmas and (ii) consequently doesn't get a look in

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 10:40 (thirteen years ago)

Isn't (most of) the second bit Sirtrevor's job?

Upt0eleven, Monday, 30 April 2012 10:42 (thirteen years ago)

Not sure. It used to all be Bobby Robson's job back in the day. I imagine it'd've changed by the time eg Keegan was appointed.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 10:43 (thirteen years ago)

you can seperate tactics into 'putting them in the right place' and 'telling them to do the right things', but really it's baffling how often (i) has been a struggle for HR since xmas and (ii) consequently doesn't get a look in

― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 11:40 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hr has never been a good tactician, in the proper sense of the word. didn't vdv come in and say how happy he was that hr doesn't do any of the stuff jose did and just says something nice and motivational and tells him to just play? and when that doesn't work, he just 'as a go wheeling and dealing and gets rid of him.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 30 April 2012 10:50 (thirteen years ago)

my idea of intellectual colossus = Alan Turing, Perry Anderson

the pinefox, Monday, 30 April 2012 10:54 (thirteen years ago)

Roy Hodgson = charmingly, cheeringly literate, well-read, multilingual, gracious, gentlemanly football manager

the pinefox, Monday, 30 April 2012 10:55 (thirteen years ago)

in footballing context hodgson is several layers above a god in intellectual terms- though his gut instincts may not match the backstreet smarts of many more successful- or popular- managers

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 11:07 (thirteen years ago)

I was waiting for the comparison to Clough. I must have slept through Harry winning the European Cup and League Championship.

pandemic, Monday, 30 April 2012 11:07 (thirteen years ago)

yep

I do like the idea of RH clearing out dead wood and older ego players
and replacing with hungry young ones, planning for next few years
can almost imagine this working

though it probably won't happen

the pinefox, Monday, 30 April 2012 11:12 (thirteen years ago)

ehhhh, not comparing them favourably nor saying doing it with forest wasn't incredible, but neither competition the same then as now.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 11:12 (thirteen years ago)

I'm never sure that that point holds up - there's only one European Champions every year after all.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

there might be a touch more to it, all i'm saying

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

fewer teams in it back then?

the pinefox, Monday, 30 April 2012 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

passing it back to Shilton every 5 minutes

the pinefox, Monday, 30 April 2012 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

have been surprised to learn how 70s Clough was maybe quite defensive and pragmatic
I think my vision of his teams was distorted by the 1986-1991 sort of era, youth development Forest, flowing attacking play

the pinefox, Monday, 30 April 2012 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

I remember attending a preseason game immediately after the backpass rule had been introduced (it came into force July 1st or thereabouts, don't remember the year). A defender played a backpass under pressure from the striker, who immediately began shouting 'No backpass! No backpass!', but the keeper picked it up anyway. The whole crowd was just laughing at the guy, and the ref never gave anything.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

I wish more backpasses were given

Number None, Monday, 30 April 2012 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

can still see it at ucd on wednesday nights tbh

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

arry vs woy is like keegan vs taylor p much. both would appear to be deeply flawed appointments.

woy (for all his waterstones loyalty cards) is no tactical rocket scientist - he's a strict and methodical martinet who drills line and shape into his teams, and tediously so by all accounts. now you can bemoan the state of the over-entitled english celebrity game all you like but no major international side has been crafted in this fashion probably since idk wartime or whatever. this is not something that's specific to england (even though it may well seem at its worst here), every country has to deal with it. woy is a meat stew hotpot cook being asked to whip up a quick something imo. and despite his erudition he is far more likely to be stubborn, grudgeful and obtuse in the face of resistance or the inevitable criticism that will arise than he is to think on his feet and find a way to transmit what it is that he wants quickly.

is arry's tubthumping lassitude any better, well probably not. it's just two different ways to get embarrassed at the quarter finals. but - and this is a huge but - if the fa are serious about giving woy a 5 year contract with the remit to oversee youth team integration and all sorts then that strieks me as a possibly catastrophic because at a crucial time in development i don't see anything in his cv to either justify that or to suggest there's anything in his methods that would be desirable as part of english football's framework.

r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/apr/30/harry-redknapp-roy-hodgson-england?intcmp=239

decent from HR

the pinefox, Monday, 30 April 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

getting to a QF would be a return to the bronze days of yore

the pinefox, Monday, 30 April 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

I thought it was Brooking and Southgate with responsibility for youth development? Which would be preferable to giving it to Woy for the reasons about, and Southgate at least appears to know what he's talking about.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 30 April 2012 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe England have decided that they have 40 years of evidence that England are in actuality Greece and want a manager to drill them in that manner to victory.

pandemic, Monday, 30 April 2012 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

right yeah rehhagel was the first person i thought of too. is anyone going to claim he could have done with germany (or whoever) what he did with greece?

r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 12:29 (thirteen years ago)

No, you're right, 'big' nations probably wouldn't have wanted it or if they did knew that players/fans/press wouldn't have accepted it.

pandemic, Monday, 30 April 2012 12:37 (thirteen years ago)

Germany seem to have made a better fist of integrating their creative players into a cohesive team unit than any England manager post-Ramsey tho.

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 April 2012 12:39 (thirteen years ago)

so okay they're not Greece but usually they appear to have tactics, organisation, all that good stuff.

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 April 2012 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

isn't a truth about England team that they have done poorly of late whoever has been in charge - at least since Sven went off the boil, c.2002 or 2004 say?

Capello is a major manager but produced mediocrity. McClaren produced mediocrity.

Hodgson might produce mediocrity but I don't see it as esp likely to be worse than the above, and I doubt that anyone would do much better except maybe Redknapp would attack more.

Would have been good idea maybe to send them out without a manager - but then, maybe EBJT would just run it.

the pinefox, Monday, 30 April 2012 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

I'll be interested to see them this summer 'cos they've now got a lot of v good players who play in the same position. I guess Cf is a straight fight btw Klose and Gomez, but the attacking players behind that could be any 3 of Ozil, Gotze, Kroos, Reus, Podolski, Schurrle. I can't see them making the classic England mistake of "they're the best players so fit 'em in somewhere"
xp

pandemic, Monday, 30 April 2012 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

xxp ya i guess this is more like a lone rehhagel with no organization behind him managing a squad made up purely of effenberg and mattheus clones without the talent

r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

everything fails with england, woy's cheap and he wanted it.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

is cheapness that decisive for the organisation that's just employed Fab and Sven?

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 April 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

also what on earth have you got against Graham Turner?

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 April 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

a squad made up purely of effenberg and mattheus clones without the talent

this is beautiful

pandemic, Monday, 30 April 2012 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

think I'm sort of agreeing with D-Mac, ie: as whoever does it is not going to succeed, might as well not throw extra tons of cash and hype at it

I am more optimistic than some about RH on the youth-coaching-set-up sort of front - think he could be really good for this, engaged, committed, etc

the pinefox, Monday, 30 April 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

xposts. hodgson said something about how he was going to tap into dalglish's knowledge etc, unlike when benitez was here and he wasn't allowed to step foot into melwood. rafa actually brought kenny back to the club. he wanted him to have an ambassadorial role, but purslow shunted him off to the academy. hodsgon obv got his info from christian purslow, but he should've either kept his mouth shut or got his facts right before spouting shite like that.

r|t|c otm re. hodgson and youth development. i said a while ago that a selection panel of southgate, brooking and, fucking hell, i dunno, lee dixon would be my choice (if it had to be all english). i actually think hodgson will do alright. he'll lower expectations, win a few games, charm the press with some long words, and put the focus on youth development (rightly so). just what this country's youth develoment will look like if hodgson gets his claws into it i don't know.

Chris, Monday, 30 April 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

is cheapness that decisive for the organisation that's just employed Fab and Sven?

― like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 April 2012 14:05 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

Was just pondering this last night. Maybe the coffers actually are running a bit low after those two

Number None, Monday, 30 April 2012 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

selection panel -- return to pre-Winterbottom mode

the pinefox, Monday, 30 April 2012 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

Accusing McClaren of producing mediocrity is being harsh on mediocrity.

The way the FA have governed, or failed to govern, the game over the past 20 years or so means that it doesn't actually make the blindest bit of difference who's in charge of youth development. Well, actually it does, it's the clubs and not anyone at the FA.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 30 April 2012 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

the papers are saying Park is gonna play tonight btw :(

Number None, Monday, 30 April 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

Fergie doesn't play for draws

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 April 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

Park always plays in massive games at the business end of the season. He does fuck all for a season and then suddenly Fergie wheels him out and he usually scores at least a couple of vital goals.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 30 April 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

i can't think of a single time in his career where woy put his faith in kids over experienced pros. even kenny had the nous to blood kelly/spearing/flanagan rather than persist with poulsen and konchesky.

oh wait, he did sign kevin davies for £7m that time.

r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

Has Owen made the bench?

pandemic, Monday, 30 April 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

I know he's done it before but he's probably been Utd's worst player this season

Number None, Monday, 30 April 2012 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

nothing on his twitter pandemic

Number None, Monday, 30 April 2012 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

oh balls, somehow managed to forget all about mega monday. or the fact that the premiership exists.

i still can't really laugh about yesterday but you gotta admit that win or lose, qpr manage to embrace the grotesque like no other. that was like watching the ss storm an orphanage.

r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

number none gets it- cost becomes the defining factor when there is simply no difference in results regardless.

I don't think anyone expects return to non-qualification under hodgson, and if capello could do no more than squeeze another game out of them at an actual tournament, then why on earth pay another 4/5m per annum just to give the tabloids another stick to beat you with come final whistle of the first knockout round?

English, cheap, safe hands, should get you to the finals. Compares favourably with Capello, imo (using a tabloid/ingerland fan/accountant's eye)

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

another thing I have not seen said:

if there is any truth that England speculation has damaged Spurs' form, then we should logically expect a post-Hodgson bounce in our last 3 games

with the players' NEW CERTAINTY about HR being there next season - their minds no longer confounded by doubt and future confusion.

the pinefox, Monday, 30 April 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

xp even that depends on how long his contract is tho, sack him after two years of a five year contract and it's still gonna cost ya

let alone of course the classic english nonsense of having the man first in line for the chop having the greatest say over legacy

r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

xp

don't think it was the players confounded by doubt tbh

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 April 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

five years is fuckin nonsensical, jesus lol i didn't spot that oh ye're fucked ye're fucked run by clowns etc

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

if the players were that blinded by doubt because harry might have been leaving then i don't credit them with the mental strength to surge back, tbh

But it was mainly awful selection and tactics, and individual exhaustion imo

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

maybe it was mostly bad luck with fixtures, leading to self-perpetuating lowered confidence, etc

the pinefox, Monday, 30 April 2012 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

bad luck with fixtures applies to lesser squads like newcastle or liverpool or arsenal imo, we had, in january, a squad to rival city or utd (rival city, match utd imo) and the majority of fixtures were ours to win.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

OK: well, almost every team's form goes up and down - and so did ours.

the pinefox, Monday, 30 April 2012 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

certainly! I've been arguing with n1ck uptoeleven on the 'who'll finish 4th' thread about a team's internally judged form not really being equivalent to their results in fixtures of varying difficulty all morning.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

i don't have it in me tbh. just hoping newcastle finish 4th and you get stuck with the fooballmanja

Upt0eleven, Monday, 30 April 2012 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

if we're not the ones to get tossed out by ebjt's last minute winner in germany, i'd rather it was lfc tbh

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

It's official:

Podolski, who has 95 caps, said: "I'm so happy to be joining Arsenal and the Premier League. They are one of the top clubs in Europe with a huge history.

"There are many top-quality players at Arsenal and their style is fantastic."

He added: "I have made this decision not against FC Cologne but because it is a great opportunity.

"This was not an easy decision for me at all, as Cologne, our fans and the city are something special for me."

The Poland-born forward, who had one year left on his contract, has scored 18 league goals so far this season for a side battling relegation, which is his best ever top-flight return.

He added: "I will always carry FC Cologne in my heart. We need to pool our strengths now and have to be fully focused on our survival in the Bundesliga."

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger said: "He is a top-class player, a very good finisher and a proven performer at club and international level. He is a very strong player and will provide us with good attacking options."

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

good stuff!

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

gonna miss rvp tho

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

need a rvp comment today, "will be happy to play w/ lukas" or he's off.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

I am touched to read that Roy Hodgson won the title with Malmo 5 years in a row.

the pinefox, Monday, 30 April 2012 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

no englishmen in that team i will bet

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

nobody else managed to put malmo on the map until easyjet

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/30/article-2137372-12D865A5000005DC-737_634x361.jpg

mizzell, Monday, 30 April 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

england managers who look like old lesbians

Ward Fowler, Monday, 30 April 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

wait is woy tiny?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

no just getting into a seat that's too big for him

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

(I know it's a merc but go with it, okay?)

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

fyi here is how today's game is being advertised on american espn
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/0429/soc_e_manc_manu_ill_b1_576.jpg

mizzell, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.balls.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Aru_fSDCQAEuGu1.jpg

Number None, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

had a lol the other day when derek rose went down injured for the bulls and the first images that were plastered all around the chicagoland internet was him lying on the court with a dude in a man city scarf standing in the immediate background

Silky Slim (dan m), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

Right, off to the pub. Play nice lads

Number None, Monday, 30 April 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

otm

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

Just heard the United team. Think we're going to lose.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

De Gea; Jones, Smalling, Ferdinand, Evra; Nani, Carrick, Scholes, Giggs, Park; Rooney
Hart; Zabaleta, Kompany, Lescott, Clichy; Yaya Toure, Barry; Silva, Nasri; Tevez, Aguero

mr. jane goodall (toandos), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:37 (thirteen years ago)

3-1 City imo. Title race BLOWN OPEN.

we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

That team should lose, but it won't. 0-0.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

"It could be disappointing." Oh Fergie, have you not heard that it is going to be such a good game that Jesus himself will come down at half time to applaud?

Why the #together hashtag? It is a fucking derby of two teams trying to beat each other, not be friends.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

has anyone yet asked Robbie Savage what he thinks re England manager?

cos whatever he says, the FA should probably do the opposite

the pinefox, Monday, 30 April 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

http://static.blogo.it/eurocarblog/BalotelliR8.jpg

HE JUST PICKED UP A CURRY AND SOME FIREWORKS AND IS READY!

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

Giovanni was the last City player to score at home v. Utd? Whatever happened to that dude?

Must wiki.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

He has been v. unimpressive in America and Brazil it seems.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

Posession after 16mins is ManC 65% - ManU 35%

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

this is... ok, not great or anything tho.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

it's fucking tripe

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

When City try to attack there's constantly 9 or 10 Reds around the box

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

This is excellent.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)

who is the irish co-commentator on sky

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

luvly nile kuwinny

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

Referee stops to pick up plastic carrier bag. Alan Parry: "some debris on the pitch - it's that kind of evening". Eh?

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

thought it might be theresa

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

citeh won't shoot utd won't attack

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

nice from yaya on jones

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:32 (thirteen years ago)

did theresa just say 'outbullied'

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

City almost have too many men in these attacks

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

thats what happens when they dont play balotelli

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

he frequently goes missing?

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

he tends to get sent off, deems

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

Utd look shit scared of the Argies

we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

maradona does look like some hideous tibetan death-god i guess

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

wheresmecoatl

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

1-0

the pinefox, Monday, 30 April 2012 19:45 (thirteen years ago)

okay

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 19:45 (thirteen years ago)

WIDE. OPEN.

we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

kompany

caek, Monday, 30 April 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

wonderful header.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 April 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

It was coming, it was coming!

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

Right, Ferguson, enough of this shit. Send out a team that actually looks like it might score in the second half.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

deserved. utd have been so shitty.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

"player of the half of a season" Scholes has been shit - only ever effective in possession, waste of a man otherwise.

we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

srsly lets have a fuckin game ye cunts

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

don't think Man U have been particularly shitty, just obsessed with not-losing.

GoT SPOILER ALERT (Gukbe), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

quite liking quinny meself

talks nothing but bollocks obv but a satisfactory hypeman successor to gray

r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

Now City'll be obsessed with not conceding

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

nah they'll bury united on the break and score another couple

we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

Quinny's been fine. Wonder how he landed this gig?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

United haven't been completely shit, they just look like a team who know they're not good quite enough to win but hope no-one will notice - a strategy that's worked for much of the season.

we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

former city striker with nowt else to do i guess xp

r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

Trying to remember the last time United came from behind to win a match.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

quinny got this gig by being reeeeelly reeeely nice to everyone, he's also probly ceo of sky by now

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

onimotm abt scholes being useless without possession but utds midfield options are limited

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 April 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

they are 11/1 to win on bet365

caek, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

Community Shield vs City xpost re comeback wins, though they only need a comeback draw

we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 30 April 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

wheres anderson waddling around these days

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 April 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

awful from jones

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

"ya ya! fookin wake oop!", says man in crowd

r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

awful from jones

― Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 21:23 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

tasty

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

stfu mongs imaginary yellow cards are great

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 April 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

Heh heh, love it

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

waheyyyy

r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

imaginary cards were always a staple of our fives games, I don't see the problem

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

game needs a red card or three

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 30 April 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

my money's still on twp, can p much see the steam coming out his ears

r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

has barry really been on the pitch this whole time

r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

my money's still on twp, can p much see the steam coming out his ears

i think he's one bad touch away from kicking fuck out of himself

we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 30 April 2012 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

argh

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

citeh still won't shoot cept yaya

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

what the hell was nasri doing

GoT SPOILER ALERT (Gukbe), Monday, 30 April 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

got stuck under his feet but he was still close enough to stab it in

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

wtf is there 5 minutes for?

oh yeah utd are losing.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 30 April 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

Barry's knock earlier did take a while to clear the pitch.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

ugh smell this comin

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

okay good

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

oh my

caek, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

Utd will still win the league though.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

no way city will lose these next two games.

PSOD (Ste), Monday, 30 April 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

They won't win at Newcastle.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

Well, that looked inevitable from the moment the teams were announced. I can't remember a United shot all night.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 30 April 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

Sight of a Gallagher celebrating in the crowd has spoiled this for me a little.

Stevie T, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

If Wigan could get 4 past Newcastle, I don't see why City couldn't get one.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Monday, 30 April 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2VCwBzGdPM

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

really engrossing second half

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

yeah was much better fare in the second

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

there was a moment about an hour in when city lost composure and balance of possession

i thought the subs of tevez and then silva were made too soon but twp et al were pretty useless

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

NV and Louis OTM

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

wait what louis is back?

Silky Slim (dan m), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

i'm predicting city to throw away title needing draw against qpr.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

@DanM: Louis Armstrong and NV iirc

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

haha mancini is the worst at mind games. "their games r easy nanananana"

kid steel (cajunsunday), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

My (completely neutral) pal was all 'hopefully Utd can win & stop City buying the title' beforehand. Get it right up ye, if you're reading.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 April 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

United had to make do with demonstrating good order while the ball spent much of the occasion at City feet in those first 45 minutes. There was a theory that the burden here was greater on City. They were attempting after all to imperil a regime of League title mastery established by Ferguson.

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

Hansen says 'I've backed the two of them, I'll get one of them right'

curious how pundits can be so wrong and get away with it and never be called to account

the pinefox, Monday, 30 April 2012 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

The two of what?

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 30 April 2012 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

the english defence league and hizb ut tahir

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 April 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

utterly gutless selection. Jones, Giggs and Park. Nightmare stuff

Number None, Monday, 30 April 2012 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

what xi would you have selected?

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 April 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

Hansen says 'I've backed the two of them, I'll get one of them right'

curious how pundits can be so wrong and get away with it and never be called to account

― the pinefox

even football writers who seem to actually know a little about tactics and don't just chat shite all the time invariably get predictions wrong a lot of the time. how would you like them to be called to account? community service order?

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Monday, 30 April 2012 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

has football punditry always had that Match of the Day thing where you can't have modest conclusions to your discussion, we always need the bold and decisive predictions?

danny houellebecq (Merdeyeux), Monday, 30 April 2012 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

I would've gone for it nakh. Yes, we contained them for most of the game but it's utterly useless when you barely muster a shot of any kind. Utd have gotten results this season through their wingers. Park had a decent 15 minutes but that's all he's good for these days. Valencia, Nani and Welbeck from the start might have given Rooney something to feed off

Number None, Monday, 30 April 2012 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

park, giggs and jones weren't great but really they are make up the numbers players

twp, nani and carrick are probably their most important players this season and they did very little, valencia added nothing when he came on

i think maybe the lesson for ferguson, and for everyone else, was that they gained little possession with a 4-3-3 over a 4-4-2, and lost a lot in counterattacking threat

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 April 2012 23:23 (thirteen years ago)

yeah not really like the floodgates opened once welbeck came on, if anything he helped the ball stick in the city half

why smalling for evans as well? would also have been a sounder bet than jones if he was that worried about rafael

jones is learning so little he might as well be at spurs

r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 23:27 (thirteen years ago)

Performance as subs is irrelevant. Bottom line is Park and Jones shouldn't have been anywhere near that team. Giggs i can understand cos he does still have the ability to pick a pass despite being horrible for most of the game but in general it was a cowardly selection and performance. This is not Barcelona. I feel like we could have matched them if we played to our strengths

Number None, Monday, 30 April 2012 23:36 (thirteen years ago)

i might have played jones as a sort of gattusoish runner in midfield, he doesn't have a lot of nous but he has power and aggression where park was just overrun, he can even do a plausible imitation of touré charging forwards a winning free kicks 20 yards upfield to give the dm/cbs respite

id have started valencia cuz he has some of the same attributes

they still probably would have lost of course

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 April 2012 23:44 (thirteen years ago)

nope, this season had been a "learning experience" for Jones. He shouldn't have even been in contention

Number None, Monday, 30 April 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

in an ideal world yeah, but who else would you play there? you can't plays giggs and scholes in cm together, park is 31 years old and about nine stone vs yaya gd touré

which is the best case for playing a narrow 442 with valencia and giggs tucked in during defensive phases

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 April 2012 23:52 (thirteen years ago)

First i would've played Rafael at right back. I don't care how reckless he is, at least he would have offered something going forward. Then i would have gone for a midfield two of Carrick and Scholes with Valencia and Nani on the wings. Rooney and Welbeck up front with the TWP dropping deep to support the midfield. Like i said, we feared them too much tonight and completely negated our own strengths

Number None, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:05 (thirteen years ago)

anyway i'm drunk and depressed. C'mon Newcastle! or something

Number None, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:06 (thirteen years ago)

City won through one defensive lapse at at a set piece. Yeah they dominated possession but they didn't put De Gea under a massive amount of pressure. That's why I feel like Utd played into their hands

Number None, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:16 (thirteen years ago)

rafael at rb def

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:21 (thirteen years ago)

unfergielike selection and performance, or just an unfergielike result?

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 07:04 (thirteen years ago)

twp, nani and carrick are probably their most important players this season and they did very little

I thought Carrick was good, actually.

i think maybe the lesson for ferguson, and for everyone else, was that they gained little possession with a 4-3-3 over a 4-4-2, and lost a lot in counterattacking threat

That was 4-5-1, not 4-3-3, for a good hour: ten men behind the ball and Rooney isolated up front.

why smalling for evans as well?

Apparently Evans was injured, so that change was unforced, the rest was Ferguson's making though. Over the last week I read lots of (internet) United discussion saying if he starts any two out of Park, Giggs and Jones then we've lost. He chose to start all three of them.

Anyway - looks like we've got some much needed rain today. Nice weather for ducks.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 07:05 (thirteen years ago)

why is Rooney called TWP?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 08:47 (thirteen years ago)

United boss Ferguson said: “I think he’s a typical British player, but there have been British players over the last few years, maybe for the last decades who have similar great qualities that makes them great players, whether it’s a Gascoigne, George Best, Bobby Charlton, Denis Law.

“The similarities are that the boy has great courage, he wants to play all the time, he has incredible stamina.

“These are added extras to the talent he has. If you look at Pele for instance, he was a very aggressive attacker also who could look after himself, so can Rooney.

“They have similarities that way — strength, speed, determination, but he’s white, completely white.”

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 08:48 (thirteen years ago)

^ That was Ferguson responding to the song, rather than creating the expression. I think Everton might have started the song when he still played for them.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 08:54 (thirteen years ago)

At Goodison, TWP was Colin Harvey.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 08:56 (thirteen years ago)

Evertonian friend of mine used to call him Roonaldo back in the day.

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 08:57 (thirteen years ago)

referencing Fat Ronaldo not Cron iirc

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 08:58 (thirteen years ago)

I called him the Golden Child. Or just Remember The Name. Now he's just some thug from Crocky.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 09:00 (thirteen years ago)

TFC would only get him confused with terry tho

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 09:25 (thirteen years ago)

Remember The Roon! Name Wayney!

that was his catchphrase.

Was Harvey considered a White Pele or was there another reason for his claiming those initials?

When I was about 8 or 10 years old I read a book on PLAY BETTER SOCCER (football was called soccer in those days) and it kept showing tactical drawings of a player called Pele, who I thouht must be pronounced 'Peel'.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 09:39 (thirteen years ago)

ag imirt peile

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 09:42 (thirteen years ago)

all in colour

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51UfZhIf8HL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

we are not bemused (onimo), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 09:43 (thirteen years ago)

ah so tahts what it means

kid steel (cajunsunday), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:27 (thirteen years ago)

Just terrace hyperbole; there was a banner in the Park End proclaiming Harvey as such. He was an immensely gifted player, going by what I've read, but obviously NOT remotely comparable to Pele in any department other than a local "best we've ever seen".

Terry Darracott was The Balding Beckenbauer, and Ronnie Goodlass was The One-Handed Coen Moulijn. Mick Lyons was just Mick Lyons.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

andy hinchcliffe?

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

I can't invent anything as good as this:
Like his Everton team-mate, Duncan Ferguson, Hinchcliffe has inspired a composition by the Finnish composer Osmo Tapio Räihälä, who wrote an orchestral work titled Hinchcliffe Thumper - Tha' Bloody Intermezzo in 1993.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

(He played for England! I don't remember that. Truly, his Wiki is full of delights. Well, just those two.)

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:47 (thirteen years ago)

He received his first football shirt on his 6th Birthday. It was a Nigeria shirt with Tolu and the number 4 on the back.

hmmn

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:47 (thirteen years ago)

the intermezzo bit is true tho

http://www.operatoday.com/content/2010/04/osmo_tapio_raih.php

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

I'd heard about the Ferguson piece, but I didn't realise Hinchy (as someone probably called him) had his own.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:51 (thirteen years ago)

right....and i can see the thematic allure of dunc's bigness, stoicism and pigeon-fancying

not sure what andy hinchcliffe has to recommend himself in the same fashion

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

is TLP no longer any good? wondered why he didn't come on last night for a bit.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

which means little pele

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

i figured the light pele, was trying to identify the benched player of latte skin tone you were describing

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

the little pea?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

Can't believe Hansen put the blame for City's goal last night on De Gea.

pandemic, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

Eh? How's that supposed to work?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

hansen just gets lazier and more boorish by the year

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

should be commanding the area, i guess. I can see it, tbh, when a goal's scored from a couple of yards out from a set play delivery. But from a corner you'd be leaving yrself vulnerable to a front post flick so rly..

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:20 (thirteen years ago)

Said if he was in the correct position in the centre of his goal he would have saved it "i know it was quite fast but". Insane.

pandemic, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

I thought Neville was very good on the goal, actually - and that's without the acting-out of Smalling's body position, and indeed emotions as he realised Kompany was getting there first.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

if smalling had been mediuming he would have headed that away

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

(He played for England! I don't remember that. Truly, his Wiki is full of delights. Well, just those two.)

― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:47 (43 minutes ago) Bookmark

wasnt it during that pre-cole post-le saux endless england left flank question era with loads of mediocre randoms auditioning

michael gray, michael ball, shall we play two full backs and have one as winger, lee hendrie, the clamour for alan thompson, steve guppy and jason wilcox, hmm maybe barmby or dyer can play there

it was the best of times

r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

he said, proudly sporting his young/downing/eh maybe j cole/gerrard? jersey

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

"The 1990s - what was all that about?"

It's my lost decade in football terms. I didn't attend a professional game at any level in the '90s and there are great swathes of international-class players from that era that I wouldn't recognise if they ran their trolley down my shin in Waitrose.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

stuart ripley was gonna solve that lw problem but iirc he suffered pretty much a career-ending injury on his england debut, or some such mini-tragedy

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't warm up properly and did his hamstring within about ninety seconds of coming on iirc.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

unlikely to have solved lw if he was rw to wilcox for most of his career

r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

I thought Neville was very good on the goal, actually - and that's without the acting-out of Smalling's body position, and indeed emotions as he realised Kompany was getting there first.

Yeah, this was good. "As soon as you start leaning back like that you know you've lost..."

Number None, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

"The 1990s - what was all that about?" - lost decades, reasons & regrets

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

Skrtel!

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

this is fun! thanks for putting out the reserves kenny.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

um...

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

Ben Lewis on Twitter: "I hope Woy's watching Leon Osman. Been brilliant in the last few months and deserving of a place in what could be a weak squad."

could be a weak squad

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

lfc look decent since imo

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

carroll looking good, nice ball to shelvey there

Chris, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

yeah carroll looks good, i'd back him to score.

shelvey had a nice effort there, quite unenglish in design.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

i don't want to sound ungrateful for my free stream but setanta would really want to splash out on better replays- theirs are so quick you can't actually see much better than in real time

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

BBC surpassing itself with its choice of photos tonight
http://static.bbci.co.uk/h4discoveryzone/ic/newsimg/media/images/473/210/59949000/jpg/_59949849_tuesday-football_310412_el.jpg

we are not bemused (onimo), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

aside from that effort shelvey doesn't look like he could ever be a professional footballer

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

ESPN:

http://a.espncdn.com/espn360/images/so/english_premier_league/474318.jpg

Silky Slim (dan m), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

That game was pish.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

that'll do!

kid steel (cajunsunday), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

First half was great fun

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

in soviet barca cult pays you

r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

"Roy's a good man and a good manager," Gerrard said. "It's important he's given a chance and I'm looking forward to working with him again."

still picking the team i see

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 08:01 (thirteen years ago)

heh.

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 08:03 (thirteen years ago)

Imbued in City's moment of glory was inescapable sadness, too: because this club is the last. For as long as UEFA remain in charge of the purse strings of English football, we will never tread this path again. The door is shut now.

This is the last group of fans who can be lifted from mediocrity by the fairytale: the one where a very rich man flies in bearing gifts and transports a club to the heavens. And surveying the sheer pleasure that it brought one half of Manchester on Monday, we have to ask: how did football allow this to happen? How did the sport permit a single man's idea of what is right and preferable to erase one of the most potent forces for good in the game? Money from outside, coming in, to make dreams come true. What on earth was wrong with that? Forget Portsmouth, forget Leeds United, forget the financial disaster stories that are trotted out to make fans think like accountants and turn their fun, their weekend release, into an extension of mundane, recession-blighted existence.

This is not about spending money a club does not have, or ruinous owner loans that are given and then just as unthinkingly recalled. The focus here, specifically, is on the Abu Dhabi project and others like it, when a very rich man gives - without expectation of return - money to a football club to have a right old go. Take City away and what would this season have brought? A 13th Premier League title for Manchester United. Unlucky for some; mainly those who seek variety. Here comes another one, just like the other one.

There are competitions throughout Europe that will become wholly one-dimensional after this. It is why we need City to finish this job now, to win at Newcastle United on Sunday, then against Queens Park Rangers and form a powerful rivalry across town. We cannot rely on the old ways, football's natural rhythms, the ebbs and flows caused by successful investment or unfortunate mismanagement.

UEFA will protect the worst from themselves and the best from the others, so City are the last of it. The era of austerity is upon us and there won't be too many singsongs from here.

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:18 (thirteen years ago)

no fucking way

I'm guessing..... John Cleese?

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:21 (thirteen years ago)

erase one of the most potent forces for good in the game?

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01382/Thaksin-Shinawatra_1382583c.jpg

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:21 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno. I mean I know why I disagree with almost all of that; yet I'm not entirely sure that "Take City away and what would this season have brought? A 13th Premier League title for Manchester United ... Here comes another one, just like the other ones" isn't the clincher.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:35 (thirteen years ago)

bollocks, ismael

if we'd gotten dzeko and citeh'd not beaten us twice when they did, we'd have won the league.

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:40 (thirteen years ago)

Terry and Ferdinand remain the best defensive partnership available to Hodgson

Woy Out

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:46 (thirteen years ago)

and city've not won it yet

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:47 (thirteen years ago)

might as well enjoy this last couple of weeks of moaning in this thread

Long-serving Connor has support in the boardroom and in the dressing room and the club are anxious to continue some sort of continuity.

The players today vowed Connor will improve results if he keeps the job. Midfielder Dave Edwards said: “He’ll turn results around because if you look how he’s developed over the 11 games, he’s learned so much.

“Whether it’s with us or someone else next season, he’ll be a great manager one day.

“You can see we’re moving in the right direction, but he hasn’t had enough games to turn it around.”

Edwards feels no-one would care about the club as much as Connor.

He said: “Look how he’s carried himself in interviews – he has great dignity and you can tell this club means the world to him. The boys are completely behind him.”

Left-back Stephen Ward believes Connor will turn results around, in the long run, given the chance.

He said: “Look at some of the performances – we have been unlucky not to get more positive results.

“We have shown real togetherness and ability to battle.

“Being relegated is disappointing but he’s kept us smiling.

“We could have lost by six or seven goals on Saturday, but we had a go. He just needs time.”

Ward added: “I don’t think anyone would have any qualms if TC got the job.

“If you ask the players, he’s done great things and he already knows the Championship.”

i'd be crying but, y'know, i'm pilled up

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:52 (thirteen years ago)

I'm guessing Martin samuel for the article upthread. He hates Platini and FFP.

pandemic, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:52 (thirteen years ago)

it was Martin Samuel that fucking choad

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:53 (thirteen years ago)

if we'd gotten dzeko and citeh'd not beaten us twice when they did, we'd have won the league.

didn't realise two wins against city would be worth 22 points

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:53 (thirteen years ago)

“We have shown real togetherness and ability to battle.

“Being relegated is disappointing but he’s kept us smiling.

“We could have lost by six or seven goals on Saturday, but we had a go. He just needs time.”

This section in particular is in no way an endorsement surely?

pandemic, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:54 (thirteen years ago)

there is a collective insanity coming from the dressing room that surely requires the appointment of Pol Pot come May

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:55 (thirteen years ago)

altho notable quotes from Ward and Edwards there who must realise they'll be first out the door if anybody but their best pal gets the job

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:55 (thirteen years ago)

twas the second loss to city set us up for the bad run, we'd be ten clear by now

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:58 (thirteen years ago)

I understand everything wrong with that article but I can't help thinking there's something wrong with preventing someone from investing hugely in football in certain circumstances.

I'f I suddenly found myself unable to think of a better way to waste £500m of my own money why would UEFA want to stop me from building a new football stadium for e.g. Partick Thistle, creating jobs, breaking the Old Firm duopoly, and playing Champions League football for the first time ever while not giving one shit about my wages to turnover ratio?

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:59 (thirteen years ago)

I'f

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:59 (thirteen years ago)

that will eventually become accepted shorthand for "I would of"

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 10:00 (thirteen years ago)

Because it distorts things for everyone else, is the answer. Set against that, the last twenty years has shown us that there's no other way to do it.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 10:01 (thirteen years ago)

i think they would have issues, cos wages/turnover is the best determinant of sustainability, which is kinda the point

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 10:01 (thirteen years ago)

Otoh, I guess it also shows that you can break up the old firm duopoly by wasting hundreds of millions in a quite different way.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 10:03 (thirteen years ago)

I thought Vertonghen was going to Arsenal? Now the BBC says Tottenham.

pandemic, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

here's hoping, but i'm sure it'll rest on cl qualification before we're even in with a chance tbh.

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 10:36 (thirteen years ago)

i think they would have issues, cos wages/turnover is the best determinant of sustainability, which is kinda the point

To make a club bigger requires doing that initially but success could/would/should bring increased turnover and possibly lead to something sustainable. How has Chelsea's turnover changed since Abramovich arrived?

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 10:39 (thirteen years ago)

ah, what, work? no chance!

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 10:41 (thirteen years ago)

2002-2003 - £75 million
2009-2010 - £209 million

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 10:41 (thirteen years ago)

2011 - £222.3m, so turnover has trebled in the Rmoan era. Next figure should be even higher with a run to CL and FA Cup finals.

They're still posting ridic losses but I think there's a middle ground somewhere that puts money into the game and makes a club relatively more successful and sustainable.

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 10:46 (thirteen years ago)

That'd be restricted to spending on infrastructure, is my feeling. Inject capital to eg build a stadium and generate income, but not to take the place of income itself by eg using it to pay wages. I *think* FFP takes account of that.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 10:50 (thirteen years ago)

but the sustainability brought by increased turnover won't happen unless you put something on the pitch to attract the extra customers and sponsors

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 10:54 (thirteen years ago)

The question is not really about those few cases where insanely rich and generous benefactors decide to waste their money on a club, it's what's to be done to stop the financial sickness of English (/British / European?) professional football.

Clubs don't seem capable of acting collectively and sensibly to control their spending, and giving them rules by which to live seems like a good idea, unless you've a better one. So rather than be sad about failing to releive a tiny number of "benefactors" of their cash, it might be better to be happy about the greater good.

Tim, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:01 (thirteen years ago)

Yes you can spend £500m by buying a new a stadium and training ground. Then, by having a 100,000 seater stadium you can distort the wage bill or whatever however you like. But it means that nothing like Pompy will happen if you do it like that - City's owner can fuck right off tomorrow and leave them with an amount of debt that would make Rangers look like a well run club.

Fuck ~Martin Samuel.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

That's true enough, but there's no need to be signing Robinho on day one. What's the criteria for FFP? iirc it's something like a three-year rolling period, with losses permitted to a certain amount, so it does seem to allow for this to happen more slowly.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

it might be better to be happy about the greater good.

I agree, but I also like rich fuckers messing with the status quo as long at they're not fucking up my club in the long term.

If City win of course it'll be thanks to a disproportionate and unsustainable investment, but isn't it good to have someone who isn't Utd/Chelsea possibly winning for the first time in a decade? Isn't having Aguero/Silva/Balotelli/Yaya play in the Premier League more fun than a "sustainable" City hovering around the drop zone? Wouldn't it be exciting to have half a dozen of these crazy bastards all picking a club each and seeing what happened?

Isn't there a way to do it that provides a safety net for the club to gently fall back to its "natural" state when Project Big Club becomes unsustainable?

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:13 (thirteen years ago)

iirc ik has it- you can loss-lead to cover a certain level of squad investment, but if you really want to be pumping big bucks into a club the idea is to funnel it into infrastructure and revenue generation, not wages/fees.

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think City are fun

I agree with Tim

the pinefox, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:18 (thirteen years ago)

pffft dortmund and montpellier spent less than a 10th than city to make teams just as awesome.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

and yeah, if we're picking sides i'm with tim.

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

it's not one specific takeover that bothers me, just the sheer importance of the owners and how much money they've got.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:27 (thirteen years ago)

well it IS kind of fun though, but kind of fun like when you put in cheat codes in sim city and then it gets dull after you've built everything

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

then all you can do is start natural disasters in the city to wreck everything and then build stuff again

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

(see how i used SimCity as the example here - I'm clever I am)

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

exactly

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

(also used this same example in the money thread)

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

fire - flood - riot - aliens - Venky's

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:31 (thirteen years ago)

the idea is to funnel it into infrastructure and revenue generation, not wages/fees.

Please tell me how it is sustainable to build a huge stadium then wait ten years for the boys team to hopefully be good enough to compete at huge stadium levels and hopefully without turning into greedy cunts who want huge stadium wages? What generates the revenue while the team is shite because you can't pay competitive wages?

I'm not trying to make a great case for the madness but I think there should be room for investment strategies that the fair play rules won't allow. Putting myself in the position of a super rich idiot I honestly would think "who the fuck are these people to tell me I can't spend my money?"

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:32 (thirteen years ago)

Isn't there a way to do it that provides a safety net for the club to gently fall back to its "natural" state when Project Big Club becomes unsustainable?

I can't think of one.

It ay be that the very best of the best tootle off to Russia or Brazil to play their football if FFP comes in, but the likeliest effect of FFP is that you'll get mostly the same players playing for the biggest clubs, just for less money.

It's very hard to tell whether there would have been an unbroken spell of Manchester United dominance for the last 20 years if FFP had been in place (obv Chelsea mightn't have been there if there'd been FFP all along). Might have been, but it seems to me you're as likely to end up with a Dutch / German situation (revolving cast of champs with one or two of the toppest names always there or thereabouts) as you are a Spanish / Scottish one (dupoply of boring gits).

This isn't all about the very top, either. It's very frustrating sitting in the lower leagues watching promotion places clogged up with clubs who are blatantly overspending in order to get to some promised land of huge money further up the divisions. Running your club within its means is actively disincentivised by our current system.

That was a massive xpost - please note that I have largely emotionally disengaged from this argument over the last year or two so I'm not 100% sure I know what I'm talking about anymore. Not that I was sure before, you understand.

Tim, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:34 (thirteen years ago)

And I totally see what you'e saying Gerry but my view is that the general harm done by the madness is bad enough that it outweighs the specific harm of not allowing a tiny number of rich people to waste their money on a football club.

Tim, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

a billionaire buying a team and building a stadium for games that nobody will attend seems unlikely onimo. bundesliga manages. taking the sting out of wages and fees means the same players playing for less in front of crowds paying less, is the idea- or, it seems to me at least to be as likely as your posited empty grounds all the footballers and fans gone away scenario

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

xp 'These people' are the ones who run the competition you play in i.e. the other half of your business that you think you own totally. It's not at all unreasonable for the league to impose restrictions on its members, it happened forever (after a fashion) with the minimum wage etc., so as to keep itself in operation.

Your oligarchs are of course free to ignore the league part of its investment and play only friendlies, but they never seem to do that.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

serious, a 100,000 seater where the cheapest 30,000 tickets are a tenner - you'd be sorted.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not saying build the big stadium first or buy a World XI first, but that playing a long sustainable game of climbing 4 league places a season while slowly renovating an old stadium then rebuilding a stand etc etc isn't a very attractive proposition to someone who's maybe Roman level rich and doesn't like long games (I'm sure he was convinced he'd have Barca level dominance by now tbh) and involves spending a lot of money on things you don't even want (e.g. buying Championship level players you know you're going to have to unload to buy Europa qualifiers you're going to have to unload to buy top fourers then World XIs while repairing bits of stadium you know you're going to have to knock down).

I fully agree with Tim and others about the greater good of the game and I don't see too many of these rich nutters with a plan beyond throwing away money and sacking managers. I think there's room for general all-round steady stewardship without killing off any hope of a new Big Club but I accept that that's maybe worth killing off if it prevents dozens of clubs going out of business.

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

How long ago did Sheikhy M-Dawg buy City? Three years ago? How many seasons did it take Roman to win a title/CL?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

Roman won the league in two years iirc, but then he bought a top four club.

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:59 (thirteen years ago)

eh well then let them fuck off, tbh? these bubbles of money from outside the game should either be diverted into longer term benefits or eschewed, all they contribute to in the short term are increases in the cost to the fan.

Profits capped too, imo, while we're at it.

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

Sheikh Mansour took over in 2008 after City finished 9th.

we are not bemused (onimo), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

said finish saw sven sacked, stadium was in situ

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

Martin "Mr Creosote" Samuel needs to die of 7 simultaneous heart attacks the next time he eats a mint.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

killing off any hope of a new Big Club

I see no reason to assume that, once FFP is in place, there will be stasis in terms of "big" clubs, by which I suppose you mean Champions League qualifying clubs. It seems more likely to me that these things would revolve slowly, and that would bring its own excitement.

A cap on profit-taking, for sure, and some greater redistribution of rewards between the Champions League and Europa League (ideally a remodelled version of at least the latter) would help a lot, too.

Tim, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:22 (thirteen years ago)

Mark Perryman has led fans' reaction to the England appointment. I knew he was some kind of lefty, but was still surprised to receive this just now:

--
After the Party: reflections on life since the CPGB
ed. Andy Croft

Eight former members of the Communist Party of Great Britain reflect on the twenty years since its demise. Combining personal and political history, analysis and autobiography, anecdote and argument, the contributors consider the consequences of the CP’s dissolution for British political and intellectual life.

Contributors: Dave Cope, Andy Croft, Alistair Findlay, Stuart Hill, Kate Hudson, Andy Permain, Mark Perryman and Lorna Reith.
--

the pinefox, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

i'd see no reason for there not to be more/quicker rotation of the 'big club' status, tbh, or at least the positions in the table that are held to be the signifier.

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

the consequences of the CP’s dissolution for British political and intellectual life.

i lolled

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

btw i suspect a major concern over FFP will be UEFA's willingness to enforce it and clamp down on clubs using loopholes to bend the rules

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

yeah iirc perryman is a noted weirdo and like so many of the "fans representatives" you get is just the first gobshite that put his hand up and became #1 on the lazy media speed dial

r|t|c, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:33 (thirteen years ago)

latest wolves rumour is the eagerly awaited return of young ferg btw

plus billy to hull which just seems utterly lol given what they sanctioned barmby for

r|t|c, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

the Allams are gonna be hilarious pantomime villains for a while, was gonna raise it on the non-Prem thread

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:37 (thirteen years ago)

young Ferg surely can't be more mediocre as a manager than he was as a player, plus we can borrow his dad's cast-offs oh wait

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah FFP means that Chelsea'd have to spend like Everton, like Newcastle, like Villa, like Spurs - just because you had 1 year's extra money doesn't make you a major difference. It means that if you are smart, you can break in against a team who could afford one or two more players than you as opposed to having to fight a team that spent £300m more than you last summer.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

newcastle were really, really good in that 1st half

jabba hands, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:32 (thirteen years ago)

COME ON

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

legit banger from Luka from 25+ yards, 1-0 Spurs

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

fantastic

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

he scores so few but they are all beautiful

mizzell, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

need some miyaichi in this grotty as fuck bolton xi

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

Anyone got a stream for that spurs game?

GoT SPOILER ALERT (Gukbe), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

the Bolton game, man, don't be so self-effacing

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

https://twitter.com/#!/Bloodzeed/

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

ha xp

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

Crikey @ Cissé's goal earlier

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

Tiote looks badly hurt. Commentator's calling Mikel on it for once.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

toon easy reo coker from a throw in

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

Very nasty airborne leading elbow from Mikel in revenge for an over-the-ball a few minutes earlier. Tiote out cold by the looks, fell heavily on his tailbone.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

pdc = tbm

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

david wheater looks like an illustration of an angry moon from a book of scary children's stories

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

FUCKS SAKE SPURS

r|t|c, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

beautiful!

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

3-1!!

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

3-1 Spurs - VDV then Adebayor

totally inaccurate story of the second half ftr

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

sigh

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

phew

r|t|c, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

4-1, Ade again

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

not sure why I've reverted to explaining ppl's cryptic microposts btw

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

smash em lads, it's all about that lovely goal difference

r|t|c, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

today is all about phils brown and nult duetting coquettishly on the bbc liveblog

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

seriously good counterattacking tbf

newcastle?

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

10 mins' stoppage time at Stamford Bridge. Newcastle just headed one off the line.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

Still 0-1 btw. Bad news for City, goodish for Tottenham?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

Looking all Chelsea, unfortunately. Might be a long 10 for Newcastle.

CraigG, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

Cisse! 2-0. What a strike...

CraigG, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

My god, the goal Cisse's just scored

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

holy shit! cisse!

jabba hands, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

i've....never seen anything like that

jabba hands, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

Good to see the Spurs players react so well after their successful campaign to play Harry out of the England job.

Official 10 Millionth Poster (onimo), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

staggering strike

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

Makes the first look shit, and it was brilliant

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

trivela from cissé too

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

perfect results, i'm not worried about newcastle tbh

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

newcastle will be tired by the weekend tho

anyone who thinks kraatxis goal is nearly as good as that is a worthless mouthbreathing cunt

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

http://h11.abload.de/img/untitled-8zjkh2.gif

zappi, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

otm

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

sweet baby jesus

I mean it's not even like he's spotted the keeper badly positioned

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

reminds me of Ronaldinho's - obviously a fluke

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

there's been a few decent strikes this season

Number None, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

what a rubbish description by the Guardian

This is getting ridiculous! Cissé has just struck his 13th goal in 12 games for Newcastle and it's yet another beauty! He received the ball 25 yards out after a rare Newcastle break and curled a sumptuous shot into the top corner!

Number None, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

Cisse's goal doesn't even make sense. Amazing.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.3news.co.nz/VIDEO-HIGHLIGHTS-Chelsea-Vs-Newcastle-in-English-Premier-League-2012/tabid/317/articleID/252772/Default.aspx

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

ok congrats cisse you have officially been promoted to animal

r|t|c, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

this dude is cool, imo

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/5/2/1335992087026/Soccer---Barclays-Premier-007.jpg

mizzell, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

Bananashot from Cisse, genius

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

eh what makes that so much better than crouch's tbh

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

Celebration-pictures-with-goalie-picking-ball-out-of-net-in-background are ace, we should do a picture thread.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

peter crouch is currently sitting with his head in hands - wondering at what could've been.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

Cisse, man.

pandemic, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

I preferred Cisse's first - beautiful technique. Second is a mad spectacular swinger and has much more of an element of fortune.

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

that's my take on it onimo- modric's goal had more technique imo

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

Have I said how much I love Spurs?

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

we're yr 6 pointers this month

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

jesus, you lot will challops about anything won't you?

Number None, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

I preferred Cisse's first - beautiful technique. Second is a mad spectacular swinger and has much more of an element of fortune.

It could be pure fronting but there's something in his attitude watching that second goal and the way that he hit it both hard but with just enough of the outside of his foot that makes me think he might have meant it.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

holy holy fuck that goal is insaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaane.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

nn and winston otm

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

He meant to shoot and score and swerve it but I think he was aiming near post and just got mad extra spin on it - it's crazy and beautiful but the first is cool and classy and reminds me of peak era Thierry Henry.

Amazing how many brilliant goals he's managed to fit into his short time at Newcastle.

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

winston ?

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

Wait why the +10 st(p)oppage?

http://maxgif.com/1Md

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

i was disappointed, the first few frames looked like it was heading into the near post, but imo he wouldn't have tried to hit it over the keeper from there, i'm saying a wild cunt that came off this time.

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

do we have a newcastle appreciation thread?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

Very nasty airborne leading elbow from Mikel in revenge for an over-the-ball a few minutes earlier. Tiote out cold by the looks, fell heavily on his tailbone.

xps

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

Here you go a hoy hoy SportsDirect @ Official Newcastle United forum - FA Cup winners 2011/12, Europa League here we come!

Number None, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

I've decided he meant it cos of how he kinda jogs to the right after hitting it, suggesting he's prepared to sprint into the area diagonally if Cech tips it out or it comes back off the bar

pure analysis no projection involved

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

redknapp dropping truth bombs

"There are lots of lads cleverer than me managing lower-division clubs," he reasoned. "I'm lucky. I get very well-paid. I've got a fantastic job. I don't think anyone owes me anything."

"I might be an idiotic, patriotic Englishman and I went to the World Cup thinking we would win it and I think we have got a real chance in the Euros," he said.

mizzell, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

What do people mean when they ask/wonder if "he meant it"?

Like, how much of any goal can/does any player ever consciously "mean"?

I.E. astounding goal, so who cares.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:11 (thirteen years ago)

they mean was he trying to score or trying to cross/ something else

mizzell, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

Doesn't seem to me like that's most of the debate happening here.

Of course he fucking meant to shoot. Everything beyond that is impossible to know, probably even for the player himself.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

top left or top right corner I think is the coin-flippin' conundrum here but broadly speaking I agree w/ you

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:25 (thirteen years ago)

1508 more posts and this overtakes last year's thread as the longest thread ever. With Spurs on a knife-edge, I know we can do this.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

itt liverpool not winning things; sandbox i love football
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if you add say at least a third of that total, kenny will have delivered at least one module

nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

I'd forgotten about that. Three thousand in a month? We should really get on with our work more.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

ESPN play of the day, btw

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

Over a no-hitter. Go figure.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

huh

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

already a perfect game this season
xp

mizzell, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

a hoy hoy, American references. ESPN has plays of the week from all sports) and they're showing European soccer now since they have some CL and EPL rights. No-hitter is baseball term. It's very, very hard and very rare.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:58 (thirteen years ago)

I think it makes for great TV, the second goal, but the first is the more conventionally impressive.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

would have been a perfect game but for a passed ball as well.

pandemic, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

works for baseball + football

pandemic, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

ok well then what was the play of the week?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

Cisse i assume

Number None, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

Nasri

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

delio rossi

pandemic, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

Cisse's second, nn

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/03/alan-shearer-england

the pinefox, Friday, 4 May 2012 10:26 (thirteen years ago)

Someone's going to be declaring himself flattered, but unavailable, this afternoon.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 May 2012 10:40 (thirteen years ago)

nah, too busy drafting his statement stepping back from the Barca post. (After a two week process, it will turn out to be "I'm flattered, but unavailable.)

danny houellebecq (Merdeyeux), Friday, 4 May 2012 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

"Shearer, who will be part of the BBC's Euro 2012 coverage."

Guardian killing their own story in seven paragraphs. Unless they're banking on a first round knockout and Shearer being available in the studio for the business end of the tournament. Football's answer to Steve Davis.

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Friday, 4 May 2012 11:18 (thirteen years ago)

Shearer 'flattered' by talk of England.
London Evening Standard
23 Jun 2006
Byline: KEN DYER

ALAN SHEARER is set to become Steve McClaren's assistant in England's new coaching regime after the World Cup.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 May 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

Alan Shearer, flattered by recent reports linking him with the vacant England manager job, has let it be known that his head is being turned by the prospect of becoming a manager. In Newcastle code this means if he was given £50m in the January transfer window he’d fancy his chances of leading the club down the black and white brick road back to the Geordie glory days again.

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Friday, 4 May 2012 11:20 (thirteen years ago)

In that Guardian piece he doesn't actually say anything about becoming an England coach.

the pinefox, Friday, 4 May 2012 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

Alan Shearer tonight ruled himself out of the race to succeed Mark Hughes as Blackburn Rovers boss.
The 37-year-old former England captain had emerged as one of the favourites among fans of his former club in recent days, but after speaking to chief executive John Williams, ‘politely declined’ the offer of a place on the shortlist.
Asked about the situation in his role as a BBC pundit during the Euro 2008 clash between Switzerland and Turkey, Shearer said: ‘The situation was, and is, that I was very flattered to have got a call from chief the executive, John Williams, at Blackburn.
‘He asked me if I would like to be included on a shortlist for the manager's job, which I politely declined because of the commitments that I have, namely this one.
‘I was very flattered to have been asked and I thank him for that.

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Friday, 4 May 2012 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder if he has any managerial ability?

the pinefox, Friday, 4 May 2012 11:26 (thirteen years ago)


G W D L Win %
Newcastle United 1 April 2009 24 May 2009 8 1 2 5 12.50

I think only Terry Connor has a worse win percentage (0.00%) in Premier League history.

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Friday, 4 May 2012 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

Actually that's probably not true, Derby only won one or two games in their last relegation season.

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Friday, 4 May 2012 11:39 (thirteen years ago)

One game, they won. But Paul Jewell was the manager, and had led Wigan to ten wins in 2006/07.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 May 2012 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

He kept Bradford up in 2000 as well; I can't remember whether Shearer managed that with Newcastle but I'm sure he must've if he's being linked with England.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 May 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

"Shearer? There will never be a right time for Shearer!"

pandemic, Friday, 4 May 2012 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

I'm disappointed that the BBC are basing their Euros coverage in Salford. After the stunning success of 'Shearer explains apartheid' I was looking forward to him cutting though the misinformation and getting to the truth about Tymoshenko.

pandemic, Friday, 4 May 2012 12:08 (thirteen years ago)

http://designcollector.net/files/vice-music-covers-google-street-7.jpg

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 May 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

animals

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Friday, 4 May 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

lampard 'over the moon'

Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 May 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

http://maxgif.com/2DU

nakhchivan, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

Beastie Boys' "Intergalactic" just started as I clicked on that. Disturbing.

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:29 (thirteen years ago)

Alex McLeish has vowed to keep a low profile and remain in his dugout in the hope that it will encourage Villa fans to focus on the team rather than on him.

he really said this?

mizzell, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

taibi

nakhchivan, Saturday, 5 May 2012 11:59 (thirteen years ago)

Does the #4 still get a CL ticket if - god forbid - Chelsea win the CL?

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 5 May 2012 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

NO

pandemic, Saturday, 5 May 2012 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

this arsenal side is like the absolute limit case of how little investment u need to finish in the top four

nakhchivan, Saturday, 5 May 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

gervinho gibbs and ramsey aren't even passengers, they're arguing with the ticket inspector before big grant holt throws them off the train

nakhchivan, Saturday, 5 May 2012 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

ffs Arsenal. I guess I really do want them to finish third

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

Ramsey should be off

Number None, Saturday, 5 May 2012 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

This sounds like really nervy stuff

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

aoc looks like a rugby league player

nakhchivan, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

they could have used him today before the 63rd minute

nakhchivan, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

chamakh's on!

mizzell, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

I like Arsenal's alley-oop move

Number None, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

third song chip rvp volley goal of the season

nakhchivan, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

still in doubt

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

rvp hits 30 league goals for season which is seldom done

nakhchivan, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

this match could go any way yet

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

otm xp

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

ooh lovely goal by morrison..great game this

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

henry hit 30 once, ronaldo 31

nakhchivan, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

szczesny is an idiot

nakhchivan, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

ugh this game

nakhchivan, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

shearer also got 31

Number None, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

i think that probably was a push from naughton but arsenal dont deserve to feel cheated when theyve been mostly terrible

nakhchivan, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

oh you beauty

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

You're welcome, Spurs/Toon fans :) That was a nervy game, and that was deffo a penalty, but once again we ride our luck.

CraigG, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

lol europa league, europaaaaaaaaaaaaa league

hope this causes the board/wenger to fuck shit up (and not a liverpool-esque fall from grace)

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

Spurs      1/7
Arsenal 1/4
Newcastle 2
Chelsea 12

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

That's for top 4 obv.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

congrats craig, u have an admirable team

nakhchivan, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

how many players have scored 30+ goals in a season for their team to finish 5th?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

first name to spring to mind was Luca Toni at Fiorentina maybe.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

Alan Shearer, 1995-96, 31 league goals, Blackburn finished 7th

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

Kevin Phillips, 1999-2000, 30 league goals, Sunderland 7th

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

shit, Sagna broke his leg again

Number None, Saturday, 5 May 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

fuuuuuuuuck

thank god for timing i guess?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 5 May 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

he'll be delighted it's just before the Euros

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

didn't realize he's 29 already. shitty injury. he's such a good player

mizzell, Saturday, 5 May 2012 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

he'll be delighted it's just before the Euros

― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 18:40 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

after going through the world cup bullshit, then yes i think he might.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 5 May 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

!!!!!!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

&@£&"

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

Come on, hasn't everyone wished they could have a potentially career ending injury to get them out of work on a Monday?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 5 May 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

especially when turning up to work involves Patrice starting a mutiny

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 5 May 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

Was at the Arsenal/Norwich game today, we (Norwich) should have won about 4/5-1, Arsenal were awful. And, christ, the myths about their fans being woeful are true aren't they? Literally didn't hear a squeak out of them till they went 3-2 up. Still, genuine pleasure to see RVP tear shit up in the flesh.

Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Saturday, 5 May 2012 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

Hmmmm

May 12 will be my last game for Dortmund and then I will start a new chapter in Manchester United," Kagawa told TV Osaka.

Number None, Saturday, 5 May 2012 23:37 (thirteen years ago)

awes

nakhchivan, Saturday, 5 May 2012 23:40 (thirteen years ago)

big shinji kagawa

nakhchivan, Saturday, 5 May 2012 23:41 (thirteen years ago)

How a lone tweeter fooled Manchester United fans and the media over Kagawa

mizzell, Sunday, 6 May 2012 02:14 (thirteen years ago)

I've never heard of 'Sport Witness'

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 May 2012 05:39 (thirteen years ago)

I knew it sounded dodgy

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

;_;

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

u wanted 2 believe

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

still, theres a good chance he ends up there

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

for sure

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

lol stoke are playing 4 strikers

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 6 May 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

they've done that before. Jones as an ersatz midfielder

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

11 lumps of shit as ersatz footballlers

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

touché

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

williamson and perch in the back four

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

Julian Tan on Twitter: "Come On Newcastle!! Christ ol mighty, I've never supported you this much in my life. I'm heading out just to watch the game."

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Sunday, 6 May 2012 12:25 (thirteen years ago)

stoked for this tbh

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

hes been around the block a few times has christ

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

no hype

The teams make their way out on to the pitch in Newcastle. If you go anywhere without access to this in the next 90 minutes or so you're insane.

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Sunday, 6 May 2012 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

I'm feeling more nervous about this than the derby. At least i was drunk then

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

booking the away team just for having the ball: does this ever actually work?

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 6 May 2012 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

*booing

lol

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 6 May 2012 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

This is quite a contest, not that i can enjoy it. Newcastle are giving it everything

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

yeah v good game

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

what a crowd

not usually one to go with the 'ref's given himself a problem' yellow card line, but ref's given himself a problem imo

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

think dzeko might be useful, tevez is a bit sluggish to get the fluid front four working so if aguero plays between perch and the cbs and silva stays #10 dzeko can play a more orthodox cf

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

deems otm, as usual webb will lose control when he has to give a second booking to someone

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

no way does it end 11v11 xp

enjoying the director showing occasional shots of baying geordies

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Sunday, 6 May 2012 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

Bugger it. Villa are 1-0 up.

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Sunday, 6 May 2012 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

cuuuuunts!

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

Collocini has been superb

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

anyone keepin an eye on spurs?

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

yea

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

touree! sweet finish

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

That's how to do it!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

ah fuck it

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

Not over yet

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

"If I was going for the title, I would be nervous towards the end of the game today. At the start I am sure they will be full ambition and positive thoughts. If we can still be in with a shout with 20 minutes to go we are going to go for the win."

Goal time 69'22"

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

well done by mancini, bringing on de Jong and moving toure up a bit

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, well played tbf

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

aguero ffs!

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

danny rose given a straight red

mizzell, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

cityesque

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

fuck

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

If City somehow don't win this (which is unlikely) they'll kick themselves at the chances they've wasted in the last 15 minutes or so

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

nice finish

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

beaut

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

right, just need ten or so against Swansea now

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

YaYa Twore

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't think they had it in them tbh, well done.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

that's how you walk it in

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

Phew! Well they won't have to worry about that now

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

Sweet counter-attack.

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

what did Danny Rose do to get the straight red?

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

Silva-esque from Clichy there

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

Brilliant from Clichy. Really superb getting four men up for that, really superb.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

Rose = two-footed tackle on Hutton apparently

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

its city though you know they can blow it next week, especially if utd take 6 or 7 off swansea

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

Danny Rose attempted to save football by erasing Alan Hutton.

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

thanks for the Rose report.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

yeah he caght hutton high on the ankle, not sure he really meant it,
penalty to spurs

mizzell, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

ade converts

mizzell, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

god dzeko was like a league one player today

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

Rose = two-footed tackle on Hutton apparently

― listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:21 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha revenge for any number of training ground shawxings

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

spurs all over this. how's that not a peno???

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

the nudge on sandro? never gonna get that

mizzell, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

Need a Spurs & a QPR goal to put four teams on 37 points with one of them going down.

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

How much diving is Young going to do today

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

Need Bolton to hang on to guarantee Liverpool a top-half finish

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

3 blatants, 4 seem em givens and a cried wolf
xpost

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

sounds about right

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

Badger had me until the last word

Badger, a Manchester United fan at Old Trafford, texts: "United fans on here seem to forget that City are stronger in just about every department. That's because their owners have pumped in a billion pounds while ours have taken half that amount out and put nothing in. Midfielders like Toure win matches. Midfielders like Carrick don't. Fergie's achievement with his hands tied by the owners is sensational."

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

Come on you Spurs

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

qpr score

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

Cisse! Exciting times at the bottom.

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

carrick cost £18m

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

rooney, ferdinand , de gea etc didn't come cheap either

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

or berbatov

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

Carrick's won four league titles and a European cup. Decent return tbf

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

The "hands tied" is a stretch but the difference in investment in recent seasons is huge.

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

it is, but man utd spent plenty to win titles too

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

and fuckloads of teams have spent plenty and won fuck all

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

yeah but investment in a european cup winner vs team where joey barton was the star player

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

Not sure how instrumental Carrick was in any of those trophies - he's a decent midfielder but he's not exactly the guy you look to to pull out results in big games.

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

no one wins titles without spending money. It's how you get that money that matters

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

aw poor Bolton back in the shit

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

also get it up you owen coyle you airdrie bastard

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

he was important in winning the first title

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

Villa edging towards safety in style

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

lol

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

if man utd score a barrowload today the epl could be like the spl with cries of teams lying down etc

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

i'm spent

going back to bed

r|t|c, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

swansea dont tend to ship goals

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

more to the point why would they want to

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

absolute shite from arry that last twenty mins

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

how about swapping 'arry for craig lavatory? he knows how to talk pish too!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

deems otm

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

switched it back on after Newcastle-City ergo after Rose's red and they seemed adequately assured (for ten men) without ever being threatening

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

id take 'arry as scotland manager any day

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

Ridiculously Arsenal could still finish fifth, but that was a massive fuckup from our point of view.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

there's one

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

there's one (dive from ashley)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

should be 3-0 tbh

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

it was a penalty but he went down in trademark style

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

Yup, that was a penalty, but it's not as if Young can complain given his recent antics

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

if only there was an apt proverb for him

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

I don't understand why Nani and Rafael aren't playing

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

young queasy -- the regression

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

Come on lads, just need 8 more

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

aw scholesy can't even be bothered to celebrate a goal anymore.

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

god theyre having a go

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

Queens Park Rangers manager Mark Hughes fears his team's hopes of avoiding relegation could be affected by Roy Hodgson landing the England job.

Hughes is a "little disappointed" West Bromwich Albion boss Hodgson, 64, was appointed during the relegation run-in.
Continue reading the main story

Hodgson's mid-table team are at QPR's relegation rivals Bolton on Sunday and Hughes thinks the announcement should have been delayed.

"I hope that it won't have an impact on West Brom's performance," said Hughes.

QPR are 17th in the table, level on points with 18th-placed Bolton but above the relegation zone thanks to a better goal difference.

Hodgson has agreed to oversee West Brom's final two matches of the season before leading England at Euro 2012

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

A decent win, by three or even two goals, for Blackburn tomorrow would add a bit of spice to next weekend too.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

Does it need any more spice? Two teams in for the title, four teams in for third (Chelsea could still do it), at least three teams could go down. It's going to be a humdinger

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

a ripsnorter

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

You can never have too much spice. Right now it's Bolton or QPR; Blackburn heaving themselves back into it would make it two from four.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

t
w
p
when the crowd say roooo
mis-hit it

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

Ironically enough, united really could be six up by this point. But they're not.

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

If Rafael was playing we'd have at least two more. Fact

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

Ooh didn't realise it was Wigan Blackburn on Sunday. Yeah we want a Blackburn win before then.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

if rafa was managing youd have at least two more (facts)

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

wig bla tomorrow

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

swansea have a bit of life about them this half

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

think that substitution means Fergie has given up

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

aw, Rooney got carded

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

gylfi the free kick robot

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

Who came off when Cleverly came on? I'm suffering from sleep deprivation induced goldfish brain.

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

hes supposed to be one of those beckhamesque ocd types who practises fks relentlessly

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

Scholes

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

scholes

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

oh twpaws

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

could someone explain cleverly/jenkinson/that other guy? i can never remember who's who.

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

clev is the utd midfielder
jenkinson is the arsenal rb who plays for finland
dennis nilsen is the 80s serial killer

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

berbatov is the sadly underused soon to be ex- man utd forward

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

and henderson?

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

never seen him

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

This is gripping stuff

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

just...end it

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

there it is, a welcome return from MISTER POTATO on the e-hoardings

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

As well as bringing fans to Manchester to live the Ultimate United experience, Mister Potato has also delivered Manchester United experiences to fans across its Asian markets. In January 2012, fans in Malaysia were given the opportunity to meet one of their heroes as Gary Neville attended a meet and greet event in Kuala Lumpur. This was followed by a treat for fans in Thailand, who in February were able to get up close the Premier League trophy along with Manchester United legends Bryan Robson and Paul Parker during a visit to

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

Seems like a nice chap

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

otm

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

nice chip

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

Paul Parker refuses to ever set foot in the Camp Nou after a bad experience there with Utd in the 90s

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 May 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

Seemed really prickish of so many Man U fans to leave the game early at Old Trafford knowing it was their last home game of the season and they were going to do a lap around the ground.

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Sunday, 6 May 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

Horrible game at Loftus Road. But three points.

I rather suspect that completes the 16 I said upthread I thought the team were capable of getting, even if I said I feared they'd only actually get two.

Now to next week … Come on Stoke!

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Sunday, 6 May 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

we appear to be rivals, ithappens

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Sunday, 6 May 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

lol Newcastle and Spurs.

srs wtf Spurs, we are trying to get rid of Villa here.

Sagna has accused Johnson of intentionally trying to break his leg, fyi.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 6 May 2012 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

what happened with that? Haven't seen it.

Delighted for starfish young. Makes drogba look like a statue under contact

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:16 (thirteen years ago)

i've only seen it from the one angle but it didn't look deliberate. Guess we'll see in a bit

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't seem deliberate from where I was sat TBH.

Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:24 (thirteen years ago)

that was a nice OG

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

it was lol

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

clunt dumpsey

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)

clump dampey

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)

what was that celebration about? some kind of "the ball is with us" type thing?

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

cuz if he is the new lamps he needs new weird versions of his name like lumptard and fat fwank etc

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

is bendtner still shit

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

it was the ball. The ball broke his leg

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:49 (thirteen years ago)

it was not with him

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:49 (thirteen years ago)

bbc wtf, moronic

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

so much shit in this epl

wolves might have survived with a manager

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

any chance of a replay of the actual tackle/contact, yis fuckin feeb cunts

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

maybe we'll get one after. Pretty poor showing though

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

tbf this season's relegated teams look to be a nice bunch to lose, if we assume southampton at least will be better than those goin down.

Wenger has some cheek whinging about penos

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

there we go. No replay

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

didnt rly notice johnsons foul during game

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

Stephen Ireland won Villa's Player of the Year award

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

lol

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

ffs gallas kaboul pure hopelessness.

Gallas a coward on top of everything else now.

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

analysis will follow nn, they're linking the games together i think

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

i presume most of the ballots just consisted of death threats to McLeish

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

stupid from rose, no complaints except hutton not killed

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

tho tbf he's been knocked himself by the other villa player i spose....

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

ah c'mon, you'd raging if anyone else did it

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

i mean in terms of intent, he's been knocked as he comes in, y'know? But he made ugly contact at speed, as i said can't complain.

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

kaboul lucky himself imo

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

fuck off shearer

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:02 (thirteen years ago)

oh fuck off shearer

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

lol xp

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

no arsenal analysis it seems, did we miss it last night maybe?

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

nope, there wasn't one on last night

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

and "fuck off shearer" bears repeating. Spectacularly lazy punditry

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

wall not placed properly there

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

shite offside call on jelavic there

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:11 (thirteen years ago)

ah lads will ye leave terry alone ffs

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:13 (thirteen years ago)

gotm poll worth doin?

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:13 (thirteen years ago)

it's got to be one of the best ever

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

i thought it'd be di santo or ben arfa but it's maybe cisse's lob tbh

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

Walker shouldn't be in there though

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

meh, walker's as good as hoilett's or sinclair's imo.

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

it was deflected

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

not what you'd call significantly imo

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

suarez
ben arfa
cissé

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

doesn't matter. I'm a purist when it comes to these things

Number None, Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

nn otm

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:20 (thirteen years ago)

anyway u dont want fullbacks thinking theyre roberto carlos or ian harte, tter for them to be nevillish potato carriers

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:21 (thirteen years ago)

/better

nakhchivan, Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:21 (thirteen years ago)

tom spuddlestone
chippy vela
david 'maris' piper

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

what did Shearer say that riled people?

the pinefox, Monday, 7 May 2012 00:54 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.diaryofanadi.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/rooney_2.jpg

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Monday, 7 May 2012 00:57 (thirteen years ago)

shearer said something improbably glib and stupid along the lines of mcleish only being unpopular with villa fans because he came from their city rivals.

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Monday, 7 May 2012 00:58 (thirteen years ago)

apparently his granny father is ill

Number None, Monday, 7 May 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

lol, wrong thread

Number None, Monday, 7 May 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

Crouch has won 141 aerial duels this season, the most in the Premier League – helped by Stoke's insistence on hitting long balls towards him. Yet just behind is Carroll on 140

Amazed by everything in this quote tbh, except the bit about Stoke playing long balls.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 7 May 2012 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll hasn't really been on the field that much this year - it's the route one equivalent of Lucas still leading the tackling stats.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 7 May 2012 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

a lot of them just skim off his head to nowhere anyway

Number None, Monday, 7 May 2012 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

absolutely fuckin exact-ly, NN- if you beat a defender to a ball to flick it nowhere, you've 'won' nothing

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Monday, 7 May 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

Rome wasn't built in a day, lads. Ten shrewd signings this summer and who knows?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 7 May 2012 18:47 (thirteen years ago)

Venky's chicken on the field at Ewood.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 7 May 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

This is so poor from Rovers. The chicken is the only one who's shown a bit of spark.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 7 May 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

All over, late winner for Wigan

Ismael Klata, Monday, 7 May 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

Aston Villa 37 7 17 13 -14 38
QPR 37 10 7 20 -22 37
Bolton 37 10 5 22 -31 35

who have bolton got at the weekend and can they throw the game 18-0?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 7 May 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

sadly, it's Stoke

Ismael Klata, Monday, 7 May 2012 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

In order for Bolton to stay up, they have to be beat Stoke and Man City have to beat QPR. Villa safe.

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Monday, 7 May 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

While I wouldn't really miss Wigan if they went down, I'm pleased that they're staying up this time: the results they've got over the last few weeks have been incredible. I won't miss Blackburn.

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 7 May 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

QPR beat Man City, Utd beat Sunderland, Bolton win 5-0 at Stoke, Villa lose 13-0 at Norwich, everybody's happy, no?

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 7 May 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

Sunderland fans might be mildly annoyed I suppose

Ismael Klata, Monday, 7 May 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

really pleased for the james gang that Wigan stayed up, but i feel really sorry for steve kean. He has not deserved the vile abuse he has had all season.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 7 May 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

hes a cunt

nakhchivan, Monday, 7 May 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

got fat sam sacked (i know but still its bad form) and got £1m a year for being maybe the worst full season manager in epl history

nakhchivan, Monday, 7 May 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

v pleased for wigan tho

nakhchivan, Monday, 7 May 2012 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

kean has had the option of leaving his post any time he chooses. he's not qualified to fill it, and the fans of the club- who will be there long after kean is second in command at preston or wherever- know that he's not qualified to fill it. he's being well paid to do nothing more than serve as a buffer between the fans and the running joke that is the venky's consortium. he's certainly not earning a penny honestly under any other heading.

let him fuck off.

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Monday, 7 May 2012 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

want villa to stay up and mcleish to get sacked. wigan meh tbh but martinez at villa would be interesting- he, dimatteo or hughton, maybe

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Monday, 7 May 2012 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

Martinez was interviewed for the Villa post before Eck... and turned it down to stay at Wigan. Who might now finish above Villa. Which just seems weird.

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 7 May 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

yeah id guess lerner isnt the type to let pride fuck with him, and martinez has a clear remit to throw a lot of shit out of the window and maybe buy some more

nakhchivan, Monday, 7 May 2012 23:13 (thirteen years ago)

Robbie Savage Former Blackburn midfielder

"Why would you want to stay if you were Steve Kean? Yes, it is a fantastic club, but why with the owners in charge and with the hatred towards you would you want to stay? I don't know what could be going through his mind."

nakhchivan, Monday, 7 May 2012 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

the price of discount vodka

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Monday, 7 May 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

yeah looks like he must get thru 4 or 5 bottles of spirits a week, hopefully his wage affords better than asda value vodka but u wouldnt trust him to tell the difference between paintstripper and ardbeg 25

nakhchivan, Monday, 7 May 2012 23:22 (thirteen years ago)

he thought he had it sussed but then he saw mark hughes walking past ewood with a bottle of tesco own-brand scotch. the easy confidence of the welsh swayze's gait & his obvious delight with the purchase caused kean to immediately question everything he ever thought he'd known about football, life and getting fucked to the eyeballs for under a tenner.

hughes threw the vodka in the nearest bin, rang kia joorabchian and said two words into the phone- it worked

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Monday, 7 May 2012 23:27 (thirteen years ago)

it was either vodka or scotch- at that price you can't tell the difference, at that price you're very unlikely to care

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Monday, 7 May 2012 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

especially not if hes been reading the daily mail and heard how to increase the high by absorbing grain alcohol thru his scarified corneas

nakhchivan, Monday, 7 May 2012 23:32 (thirteen years ago)

when did the BBC's narrative turn into "nasty fans being mean to poor ineffectual managers who can't help being shite"? can we trace it back directly to Shearer's comedy holiday at Newcastle?

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 07:56 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, if he was just shite and they went down that's all the beeb would be saying. But because he's shite and every fan hates him, there's a weird vibe to all their articles where we should feel sorry for him, rather than the thousands of fans who just watched their team get dumped out of the premier league.

Also, many xposts: I'd be pretty happy with the hypothetical scenario of Norwich humping Villa 13-0, irrespective of who it helps get safety.

CraigG, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 08:43 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not really into kicking the guy because he's plainly not at the root of this fiasco and it's got too personal at times, but Blackburn are at least to be applauded for bringing some panto this year. They might've turned on their feckless players as well though, sometimes this whole back-the-team-regardless thing just isn't justified.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 08:54 (thirteen years ago)

I would love it if it's true they didn't know about relegation when they bought the club.

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 08:58 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder how they found out? I'm assuming they'll know by now.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 09:06 (thirteen years ago)

it's not about kicking anybody or threatening their families or whatever but in the end managers have to take responsibility for the way their teams perform and all of this continuity bollocks that the Beeb in particular have been spouting this year is a TV story that pays no attention to the poor bastards who are paying 40 or 50 quid a fortnight to watch mediocre shite

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 09:15 (thirteen years ago)

and maybe the financial rewards compensate a little bit for the bad people booing you because you're a clueless cunt

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 09:16 (thirteen years ago)

"I didn't really care about Blackburn. For me they were just another football club. I felt no special affinity towards them. I viewed them as another club my team (Arsenal) had to beat to reach the top four," Swaroop Swaminathan, a student at Newcastle University, in England, told Reuters.

Abhishek Iyer, a third year student at a premier engineering institute in Rajasthan was equally dismissive. "I don't care about them - didn't like them as a team much and (having) Indian owners don't change that. Reasonably satisfied they're gone," he said.

All India Football Federation (AIFF) Vice President Subrata Dutta echoed a similar sentiment. "Venky's has not invested in Indian football... Apart from one exhibition match between Pune FC and the club, Blackburn Rovers has in no way contributed for Indian football. So we are not bothered about their relegation," Dutta told Reuters by phone.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 09:47 (thirteen years ago)

he forgot that chicken advert

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 09:51 (thirteen years ago)

it's impossible to forget that chicken advert

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 09:58 (thirteen years ago)

think that narrative's always been there hasnt it? insofar as the "football person" old boys club has free reign to close ranks, and even if the beeb did have editorial control to exert it's easier pissing off the faceless taxpayer than the twats they have to fawningly interview every week

often wonder if fergie's very worst legacy is his one fluke example of rome not being built in a day being inanely parroted in defence of the clueless forevermore

r|t|c, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:06 (thirteen years ago)

generally speaking it just irks me rotten that the media and most punters and going to be like "there goes everton's pipe dream for another year" when they had a great - maybe never better - shot of winning it

it's the same condescending bullshit that sneers whenever blackburn or wolves fans want rid of the clowns in charge cos they should all just be happy existing in the league playing dogshit football, who do these fans think they are with their lofty pretensions

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r|t|c, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:06 (thirteen years ago)

yes i remember that post it is OTM

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:09 (thirteen years ago)

kind of brings me back to something i was thinking watching that qpr documentary the other month where the emphasis of derision was always placed on briatore firing rather than for his hiring

at some point he says "we've hired every idiot in the world" and he was right, each and every one of those clowns wouldnt have gotten success with us if they were left in charge for a thousand years and - maybe magilton apart - the fans knew that within three games if not sooner

r|t|c, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:12 (thirteen years ago)

the main thing kean defenders seem to wilfully overlook (or just not care enough to have ever thought about) is blackburn's squad was fairly capable, certainly good enough to have stayed up in this year's donkey derby

it's literally probably as simple as "beat man u once and get a years free media love no questions asked"

r|t|c, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:21 (thirteen years ago)

nah blackburn's squad isn't fairly capable imo. Of course there are at least 6 times with shite squads as well.

pandemic, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:23 (thirteen years ago)

The irony of that victory at Utd likely costing them £2m in transfer fees while not being enough to keep them up is one I find pleasing.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:26 (thirteen years ago)

Blackburn playing a part in possibly denying Utd the title means Kean is alright by me.

pandemic, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:28 (thirteen years ago)

tbf anyone that prevented utd from scoring more goals against them than they did, will have possibly played a part in denying them the title. so yeah, i'm with darragh and nakhchivan.

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:31 (thirteen years ago)

Killed the prem thread. Soz.

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

It's cool, I'm just glad the season's over tbh.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:18 (thirteen years ago)

i can't tell what yr sayin there n1ck? ABU or not?

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

the blackburn squad is better than wolves, wigan, bolton, qpr (averaging their squad pre/post jan), norwich, probably west brom too

yakubu is way better than any striker relegated in recent years, 16 gd goals
hoilett who they will now lose on a free is pretty damn good
nzonzi will probably be picked up for £7m or so, there aren't many better midfielders of his age around
pedersen is a useful epl winger who provides excellent setpiece delivery for a team like west brom
solid midtablish players like dunn, givet, olsson, vukcevic
dann and pobinson but they are probably on £30/40k a week for being terrible, they spent £6.5m on the former

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

lol /for a team like BLACKBURN/

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

they also got the best part of £30m for jones and samba

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

fyi there are loads of better midfielders than nzonzi who are of similar age, dude's not 16

pandemic, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

there's loads worse weren't relegated

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

no there aren't, he's 23, there is hardly anyone outside of a top club already....rodwell, james mccarthy

obv im referring to the epl here, and its specific requirements that mean an athletic 6'4 allround midfielder with decent skills

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:59 (thirteen years ago)

-is always going to attract interest

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal need him already

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

eh those epl specific requirements still arent all that rare if you bother to look hard enough and take a period of acclimatisation into account i reckon

nancy seemed fairly happy to let samba diakite go and he'll easily be twice the player nzonzi is once we figure out the right cocktail of tranquilisers to give him

r|t|c, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

diakite is just a hack, n'zonzi actually has a bit of composure and passing range

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

this isn't to say he is all that good but he is certainly better than shite like pratley, henry, derry etc

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

i agree nzonzi is pretty good but only in the prem goldfish bowl would his performances to date mark him out as a £7m big deal

u rong about diakite though - exceptional talent on the ball going off on devastating mad slalom runs, exceptionally violent even as a hack

bit like a not-pointless abou diaby i spose

r|t|c, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:29 (thirteen years ago)

i will defer to your greater wisdom and await his emergence as the abel ferrara of west ham's europe leage chasing 12/13 midfield

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, Diakité's no hack. Exceptional with the ball - not just running with it, but great at creating space for himself, too. He can tackle, I think, and is gradually learning that it's not a good idea to remove your opponent's leg just below the knee.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:33 (thirteen years ago)

more conventially speaking west brom's mulumbu i'd rate higher than the zonz fwiw

r|t|c, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

epl goldfish bowl is def a thing -- but so many managers like pulis, allardyce, o'neill etc will pay for epl acclimatized and proven n'zonzi over say someone out of serie a who has the potential to be twenty times better but might not enjoy the full fiddy worshipping, hollyoaks extra roasting, acl rupturing epl experience

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

Speaking of which, I'm guessing Aquilani's absence from the Milan derby means he's heading back to Liverpool next year?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:37 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, he's 6 or so appearances short of triggering the automatic buy clause i think

pandemic, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

He was actually really good first half of the season until he got injured (again)

pandemic, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

He might well see out his five-year contract with Liverpool.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

'with'

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

lolll did a blackburn fan really run on the pitch yesterday during the last home game of the season with relegation p much a formality and throw his season ticket at kean? classic

r|t|c, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

even better he threw it at the wrong dugout according to 5live

zappi, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

with that info i wonder if it wasn't formica tbh

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

missed a call from newstalk to win tickets to a euro2012 discussion in temple bar tomorrow night with houghton, bonner et al. the mrs wouldn't answer it cos she didn't know the number i may beat her savagely

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

dang, suarez, worked em for an og

toandos, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

JT having a proper mare

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)

Yes yes yes, otm

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

lol john terry

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

Hahaha. Fucking John Terry!

CraigG, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

wow

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

enjoying this

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

who let avb back?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

hahaha I popped out for three minutes, shd do that more often

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:32 (thirteen years ago)

is Terry kindly putting himself out of contention for a Euro 2012 place to save any awkwardness?

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:32 (thirteen years ago)

i don't think i've ever been as frustrated and annoyed at being 3-0 up in the first half hour v chelsea before.

second only to popcorn (or something), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

carroll is destroying terry tonight. Not something I thought i'd ever say

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

oof, Torres

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

this games getting silly now, downing just hit the bar

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

wouldn't have had a big problem w/ Essien walking for that tackle

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

me neither

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

One of the more enjoyable halves of the season imo.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

ohh penalty

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

downings taking it

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

lol so my stream is like 90 secs behond whatever you're watching

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

knew he'd miss

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

Even so.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

That's gotta be pretty devastating.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

if drogba was on the bench id say it would end 3-4 now

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

not like Liverpool to come good when the season's effectively finished

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

Sydney FC's Dutch defender Pascal Bosschaart has never scored in his professional career despite having played 377 league games. Bosschaart started his career at Utrecht (194 games) then moved to Feyenoord (53 games), then ADO Den Haag (103 games) before his surprise move to Sydney FC where he has played a further 27 games. During his final game for Utrecht, his side were awarded a penalty and Bosschaart was given the chance to take it but missed.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/apr/18/the-knowledge-goal-droughts

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

having seen the way Carroll went down for the pen I'm now rooting for 3-3 just fyi

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

that was an elbow right? why was he only booked?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

the haterz always come on when lfc are riding high, it's like old times

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

hahaha

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

oof souness is right, that is a red card now ive seen the replay.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll may have exagerated that but it was definitely a red for Ivanovic.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

looked as if it caught him right in the windpipe

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

btw i thought england had a hosepipe ban? i assume not in liverpool?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

did anyone notice if wembley had sprinklers on?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

It's not water, it's John Terry's tears

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

is his excuse the water is making him a blind cunt?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

ffs I bet we're hanging on by the end

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

or chasing an equaliser

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

I was gonna say anyway but I wish they hadn't let Downing take the penalty. Carroll needs one goal for double figures for the season, that's a more useful target imo.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

lol

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

might as well bring on Sterling for the craic

Number None, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

I missed that, assuming from the big close up of Turnbull that that was a goalie lollie?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

yup. Tidy strike by shelvey though i gotta say.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

Back pass from Terry put Cech under pressure and he fluffed a clearance to Jonjo Shelvey who finished with a plum from distance.

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

just caught the tail end of a replay that looked like Chelsea's #6 hitting Carroll with a particularly vicious chokeslam. Only a two count tho.

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

Crowd chanting Andy Carroll's name too after he chased down a lost cause at the corner flag.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

Aw, Robbie Fowler + kiddie waving at camera, all embarrassed, was very sweet

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

Lukaku is on, i almost forgot Chelsea signed him.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

Crowd chanting Andy Carroll's name too after he chased down a lost cause at the corner flag.

Heroic giving away of throw-in by the £35m man rightly acknowledged. Torres could learn from that.

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

Lukaku hasn't impressed so far. He ought to bulk down a bit, his movement is like a bodybuilder going through a narrow doorway.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

he just missed a sitter

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

New Carroll imo

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

what a cross from johnson

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

I saw van Persie hit a volley like that once

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

^prescient two posts as Carroll fluffs one xxp

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

shame we saw carroll mishit it

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

I was meaning the sitter/next Carroll posts before that

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

what happened there? i missed it

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

did he do to ivanovic what ivanovic did to carroll?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

Clothesline

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez gets revenge for that earlier chokeslam on Carroll with a stiff lariat to Ivanovic. xp.

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez being a dick at 4-1 up shocker. Attempted clothesline plus blatant kick xp

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

Big substitution this. Kuyt's last appearance & Sterling's first.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

Maxi's swansong too. Oh, and there's Downing going off.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

nearly his 1st goal too

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

Can forgive him that. Better not happen again.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

next season they should try playing Downing as an unnamed 12th man, see if anyone notices.

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

BBC Radio 5 live's Michael Gray at Liverpool v Chelsea: "Luis Suarez has tried to shake hands with Branislav Ivanovic afterwards. Having seen a replay of the incident I can see why Ivanovic did not want to."

can dish it out but...

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

Suarez getting some revenge there

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

is kuyt really leaving?

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

can't tell if that excites or dismays me

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll has put a couple of really great crosses in tonight

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

he should teach stuart downing

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

If only they had two Andy Carrolls

Number None, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah he's off to Germany or Holland to see out his career. He's done in I think, but he's been so great for us, I do love the bloke.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

Baby Reina looking very happy out there with his dad.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

andy carroll on the right wing to replace kuyt. we're not allowed to play actual wingers.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

we should sign someone from another sport for the left wing.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

:)

Barry Glendenning ‏ @bglendenning

For those asking, yes - Guardian staff parade around office holding their kids when last edition of paper goes to press each year

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

haha, I didn't even think this was strange until now

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

xposts. sterling came on against wigan and fulham.

bye bye dirk and maxi, love you guys.

Chris, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

Louis Saha is on Newsnight

Number None, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

What's he done?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

he's talking about the rise of the far right and racism in France. Hasn't been on yet

Number None, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

Did I read an interview with him on that topic just recently?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

And kids today being spoiled, etc?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

Seems he's got an autobiography out and it's not the usual rubbish. It's called "Thinking Inside The Box". I'm going to allow it

Number None, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

ha

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

the interior life of louis saha

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

Let Them Eat Prawn Sandwiches: My Time At Manchester United

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

Injury Time - The Saha Saga

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

hes fairly well spoken for a football player in their second language but he didnt rly say anything

his contention that ppl of colour can ascend in this country to a greater degree than in france is probably false, the unemployment rate for black men is terrible, the number of black football managers vs number of black players is clearly fucked

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 22:22 (thirteen years ago)

the interior life of louis saha
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:53 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Let Them Eat Prawn Sandwiches: My Time At Manchester United
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:54 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Injury Time - The Saha Saga
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:56 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

knowing me, knowing you - saha

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 00:21 (thirteen years ago)

so i missed the game of the season?

stewey downing is bordering on becoming a beloved ilf cult hero imo

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 02:33 (thirteen years ago)

it wasn't really that good

Number None, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 08:54 (thirteen years ago)

yeah improvised comedy has its place but I tend not to equate it with gripping football drama

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 09:00 (thirteen years ago)

rooting for Downing though. One game left for a perfect season

Number None, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 09:01 (thirteen years ago)

EBJT is working on his falls. Will he fall in Euro 2012?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 09:50 (thirteen years ago)

His next target is staying upright enough to elbow Lampard aside and lift the European Cup

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 10:56 (thirteen years ago)

dont say shit like that

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 10:57 (thirteen years ago)

Noodle must be praying that McLeish stays at Villa;he's interested in signing Karl Henry.

pandemic, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

not just that either- he'd no doubt be considered for the wolves job.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:07 (thirteen years ago)

pandemic, as the spotter's badge winner over papa cisse, who should spurs be looking at for the areas of lb, cb, cf and rw?

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

That Blackburn dude's been sacked. No, not that one.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

Tony Blackburn?

kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:18 (thirteen years ago)

who should spurs be looking at for the areas of lb, cb, cf and rw?

Celtic only need to be better than Motherwell next season so I heartily recommend:

lb SPL Player of the Year 2010/11: Emilio Izaguirre - £6m
lb/cb SPL Player of the Year 2011/12: Charlie Mulgrew - £5m
cf SPL Top Scorer 2011/12: Gary Hooper - £8m
rw SPL Young Player of the Year 2011/12: James Forrest - £8m

you're welcome

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:23 (thirteen years ago)

vertonghen, hoilett, huntelaar?

plus 'ave a little go for elia/affelay/sahin/a.johnson

r|t|c, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

darragh, the bundesliga is the only league i've really seen a lot of this season (in serie a i've only really seen milan + juve multiple times).

Therefore these suggestions are all Bundesliga based

RW - As a rotational option to Lennon I think Ashkan Dejagah (Wolfsburg) is worth a look. He's in the mold of Lennon in that he can play as a true winger (ie run down the line and cross). He has 7 or so assists this season I think. He's more physically imposing than Lennon, but a shade slower.I'd quite like someone like him at LFC tbh, a lesser Antonio Valencia if you will.

Or there's Martin Harnik (Stuttgart), lots of goals lots of assists but he's more of a 4-3-3 winger than a 4-4-2 one ie he won't get chalk on his boots.

I'll have a think about the other positions.

pandemic, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

ooh good shout from r/t/c on elia there. After a horror season at Juve he might be available cut price and will have something to prove. Then again too long on yet another bench may just about finish him off.

pandemic, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:42 (thirteen years ago)

Also there's the chance that Conte had a very good reason for not playing him more.

pandemic, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

sow, doumbia, lacina traore for the new papiss punts

arent those two young greek defender lads in the bundesliga quite good

r|t|c, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

shawcross tbh

r|t|c, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

Also there's the chance that Conte had a very good reason for not playing him more.

― pandemic, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:43 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

team built around carrying the piano for pirlo?

r|t|c, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

xp
papadopoulos at schalke is a beast of a CB yeah. Still a teenager I think but v physically imposing, good in the air. Will pick up a lot of bookings though, and not cheap ones, liable to cut people in half. Still quite raw so not sure if Darragh is happy to endure his learning curve or if he wants the finished article already. Played a little at DM as well and was okay.

Also at Schalke, Christian Fuchs is a good attacking LB. Lots of assists, not a liability defensively. Puts in such a good ball tho that Redknapp may be convinced that Spurs don't need Bale on the left to provide and will let him have his 'free role'

pandemic, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

xp
Kinda. Also once Juve went to 3 at the back Elia was never in with a chance of getting a wide role in that system.

pandemic, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokratis_Papastathopoulos

xp and this one?

r|t|c, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

He's done okay in not ideal circumstances. No settled defensive partner, played at RB occasionally. Part of a team, Bremen, that has a pretty relaxed view of defending in general, especially away from home in the first half of the season. Mertesacker was probably glad to escape to the relative calm of the Arsenal back four!

Don't think he's as good as Schalke guy.

pandemic, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

Can't think of any 'under the radar' CF's available for good value. LaSogga(Hertha Berlin) has the raw materials but I don't think he's good enough for Spurs. Didavi(Nuremberg) has had an excellent 2nd half of the season but he plays behind the main striker and isn't in Van der Vaart class.

So yeah, throw money at Huntelaar.

pandemic, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

Of course Pekhart scored 7 goals this season ;) Maybe not.

pandemic, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

messi must be available on the cheap now after single-handedly given away a place in the CL final?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

ha cheers, content delivered

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:29 (thirteen years ago)

hoilett as rw, btw? all his best work i've seen is cutting in from left tbh.

Pandemic corrdect in that what i'd want is a v wide playing winger as cover/competition for lennon.

Onimo- i'll file under 'good to know'......

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

pekhart/barnard strikeforce ftw obv

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

'under the radar' CFs - maybe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burak_Yilmaz?

Trabzonspor 2011-12 31 32

boxall, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

RW - As a rotational option to Lennon I think Ashkan Dejagah (Wolfsburg) is worth a look.....

― pandemic, Wednesday, May 9, 2012 12:41 PM (1 hour ago)

uhm

In October 2007, Dejagah refused to play an under-21 international match of Germany against Israel, citing “very personal reasons” and saying “everybody knows I am half Iranian”.

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

anybody watch greek football? Kevin Mirallas is in rich goal scoring form for Olympiacos. (btw have there always been Belgian/ French people named Kevin?)

mizzell, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

thats big kev mirallas

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

idk what that 'look' is called but it looks a lot like the platonic ideal of a european footballer in 2007, which is to say 2012

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

jesus

mizzell, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

if paul scholes did these it'd have only been down to him being not very good at tackling.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

ah, it's a gif. That's why my phone burnt up when i clicked on it.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

thought it was p weird that ppl were losing their shit about the L'pool penalty incident and Suarez getting a bit arm-swingy and not seeming too fussed about something that could've been yr actual career-ruiner

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

i was unaware of this game tbh

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

That tackle looks so weird, are we sure it's not a completely separate incident superimposed on some stock 'hapless Carroll' footage?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

holy crap that looks bad. he's nowhere near the ball and just double footed drop kicking carroll's planted leg. carroll is v. lucky. shawx himself couldn't have made it more blatent and horrible.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

It looks bad but it looks less bad from the other angle where you see him actually get the ball.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

thought it was p weird that ppl were losing their shit about the L'pool penalty incident and Suarez getting a bit arm-swingy and not seeming too fussed about something that could've been yr actual career-ruiner

I tuned in late and did not see the incident </wenger>

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

Earlier, Wayne Rooney's first experience as an racehorse owner ended in disappointment when Pippy was last.

The two-year-old colt - owned by the Manchester United and England footballer and his wife Coleen, both of whom were among the spectators - was always towards the rear after a slow start in the Manor House Stables Lily Agnes Stakes.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

Shrek Sold a Donkey: Roo Fool!

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

fwiw, according to Rafa Honigstein dortmund is looking at the following players to replace Barrios:
Nicklas Helenius (Aalborg BK), John Guidetti (ManCity/Feyenoord), Bas Dost (Heerenveen) and Luuk de Jong (Twente)

Maybe Helenius the only one that qualifies as under the radar.

mizzell, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, he's the only one I haven't previously read about.

pandemic, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

Bas Dost must be a bigger part of our lives henceforth - Spurs pls

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

It looks bad but it looks less bad from the other angle where you see him actually get the ball.

― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White),

no

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

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pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/v/5yDRAr1Beus?version=3&feature=player_embedded

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

just watch it ok

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

I think Essien must've done his best to pull out of the challenge, but been unable to avoid landing with enough weight to send him sprawling. No way does Carroll stay on the field if that's full-force - it isn't necessarily bone-breaking contact because of where it is, but it'd wreck the muscle you'd think.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

this was worse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygVgxYa3mlo

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

how the hell Archie thought that was only a yellow is beyond me

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

"that is a booking" - Archie knows the score with Scottish refs
lol xp

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

would love to find the one ray wilkins did where he kicked a guy in the balls. That was vicious.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

remember that one onimo?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

Archie should know you only get carded for dissent up here not vicious fouls

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

The Emre/Zokora business is awful. I was reading about it the other week. Especially didn't like hearing how Joseph Yobo was apparently pressured into defending him against Zokora's charges.

boxall, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

cant find the one souness did against siggi jonsson.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

and probably the worst tackle ive ever seen in my life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGvEj8pDHJ4

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/embed/YGvEj8pDHJ4

Still the worst tackle ever on a Scottish football pitch. Referee gave fuck all iirc.

Hahaha xpost

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

i think he got a yellow did he not?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

tks boxall- good for zokora, though i hardly believe he was aiming for his bollocks like that

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

No, I think after rewatching it Fergie said a yellow would have been fair?

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2012/5/9/1336585607571/Dascombe-007.jpg

knackers yard poorly signposted...

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

simon pegg and bono's lovechild in the middle

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

scholes/hasselhoff i'd say

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

howard webb's got sunderland-utd btw. just sayin.

Chris, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

xposts. who's the guy on the right?

Chris, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

i love sounness's 'oh shit ref there is a ladybug on the back of my sock' reaction

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2142059/Manchester-Uniteds-new-kit-looks-like-tea-towel-say-horrified-fans.html

lol

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

Multiple xps but i'd quite like to see Dejagah at Spurs. The only problem he had with playing Israel was that the match was in Tel Aviv and under Iranian visa rules he'd have never been allowed back into the country to see his family.

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Thursday, 10 May 2012 07:32 (thirteen years ago)

simon pegg and bono's lovechild in the middle

scholes/hasselhoff i'd say

:-)

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 10 May 2012 07:44 (thirteen years ago)

howard webb was rather ineffective during the newcastle-city game

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 10 May 2012 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

his man u biase averages out over a season

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 10 May 2012 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

Biase is a Local Government Area of Cross River State, Nigeria

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 10 May 2012 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

Ted Dibiase

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 10 May 2012 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

how wayne & coleen will look when they're older
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/09/article-2142088-130317BC000005DC-585_634x770.jpg

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/10/portugese-police-manchester-united-bebe-transfer

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

There's no suggestion that Utd were up to no good. It does beg the question exactly what they were up to tbh.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

I guess he's going to be coming back next season as Besiktas clearly don't want him. Not entirely sure who would at this point. Selling him for under £500,000 would look pretty damning in the context of the enquiry.

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

undisclosed fee to whoever is discreet enough to undisclose

tebow kortwa (nakhchivan), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:54 (thirteen years ago)

I hope at least some of this cash makes its way into Bebe's pockets.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

just spare change to utd, rly

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

in this economy?

Number None, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

who do ppl want to be relegated out of bolton and qpr

tebow kortwa (nakhchivan), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

Villa

Number None, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

i guess

tebow kortwa (nakhchivan), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

QPR

pandemic, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

i would enjoy paul lambert's mumbling understated praise after their 17-0 victory vs the troubled villans

tebow kortwa (nakhchivan), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

I'll usually stick up for the underdog who didn't spend tens of millions on transfers. When that underdog is Bolton i can make an exception, though.

Would have rather seen Blackburn stick around.

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

bolton have just looked so bad lately that any goodwill i had towards them has evaporated, qpr are still managed by mark hughes tho

tebow kortwa (nakhchivan), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

Bolton have been terrible, but obv I want them to stay up. I'd like some massive retooling in the summer though. Getting better players in - not buying British would be a start. Maybe finding some plan B in case of the unlikely situation that Holden and Lee are both out for the season due to injury...

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

if qpr didn't have hughes and hadn't spunked a bundle of cash on england's c team in january i'd be for them but they do and they did so.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Friday, 11 May 2012 00:05 (thirteen years ago)

is the most inventive English striker of his generation included in that c team?

Number None, Friday, 11 May 2012 00:09 (thirteen years ago)

i don't think he's lived in england that long tbh

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Friday, 11 May 2012 00:11 (thirteen years ago)

Stale Solbakken for Wolves, then? Ex-Wimbledon, recently sacked by Köln ... this is bound to be a good move.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 May 2012 06:16 (thirteen years ago)

he's no Terry Connor

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 May 2012 06:18 (thirteen years ago)

He won a bunch of championships with FC Copenhagen though, right?

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Friday, 11 May 2012 06:21 (thirteen years ago)

so i read. still paper talk at this point.

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 May 2012 06:22 (thirteen years ago)

having said which, i need to stop reading the Express and Star

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 May 2012 06:23 (thirteen years ago)

This weekend we are all QPR fans

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 11 May 2012 07:22 (thirteen years ago)

no we are not

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Friday, 11 May 2012 07:27 (thirteen years ago)

Except you

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 11 May 2012 07:30 (thirteen years ago)

This weekend we are all QPR fans (except Gukbe and other Bolton fans and City fans and Mark Hughes haters and people who really don't want to see Man United win the league again)

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 11 May 2012 07:31 (thirteen years ago)

damn skippy.

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Friday, 11 May 2012 07:31 (thirteen years ago)

I am a QPR fan this and every weekend. So there.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Friday, 11 May 2012 08:46 (thirteen years ago)

This weekend I'm mostly a Stoke fan. Sorry trotters but you'll never bring the lols like QPR.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 May 2012 08:49 (thirteen years ago)

see, klata gets it

r|t|c, Friday, 11 May 2012 09:01 (thirteen years ago)

literally have no idea why anyone would wanna deny the coming to fruition of sparky's budding new hypnotic assortment of skilful francophone loons and clogging britcunts, a burlesque hybrid of newcastle new and old

r|t|c, Friday, 11 May 2012 09:04 (thirteen years ago)

I forgot about Hughes, he does need to cap his career with a relegation. On balance it can wait though, his self-regard does bring a certain something.

In other news, just noticed that Chelsea under Di Matteo have the worst record in the top half of the table.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 May 2012 09:17 (thirteen years ago)

what?

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 11 May 2012 09:28 (thirteen years ago)

Since 4th March:
Chelsea P 10, Pts 15
Liverpool P 11, Pts 13

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 11 May 2012 09:34 (thirteen years ago)

Ah, scratch that - I've taken it from 4 April.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 May 2012 09:38 (thirteen years ago)

Dalglish to be moved upstairs, new manager brought in, owners not impressed with the Suarez PR disaster

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 11 May 2012 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

Where's this from?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 May 2012 11:12 (thirteen years ago)

Ye Olde Rumoure Mille

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 11 May 2012 11:13 (thirteen years ago)

Unai Emery please

pandemic, Friday, 11 May 2012 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1493505_crying-manchester-city-fan-claims-his-mind-game-tv-tears-inspired-title-turnaround

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 11 May 2012 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

lol

r|t|c, Friday, 11 May 2012 11:51 (thirteen years ago)

guy's obviously bored

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G0E6FSXZGA&

Number None, Friday, 11 May 2012 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

is that the same 8-0 game with the ganso backheel goal? the other team should have kicked the living shit out of them

r|t|c, Friday, 11 May 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

aye, they were begging for a kerloning alright

Number None, Friday, 11 May 2012 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

emery's english was pretty rudimentary last time i checked, but otherwise he is an excellent candidate

www.tumblr.com/tagged/jerome-boateng (nakhchivan), Friday, 11 May 2012 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

can't go wrong with ex-Valencia managers

pandemic, Friday, 11 May 2012 12:29 (thirteen years ago)

think we need a '101 stale solbakken newspaper headlines' thread. dudes name is perfect for a football manager.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 11 May 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

unai emery couldn't be more rafa if he tried

except maybe for winning the league and the uefa cup, but then madrid and barcelona are a bit stronger than in 2004

www.tumblr.com/tagged/jerome-boateng (nakhchivan), Friday, 11 May 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

Koln were a horror show defensively under Solbakken. How much of that was the players and how much was the coaching I don't know. At least he has plenty of experience with managing drunk players so he should be okay with Roger Johnson.

pandemic, Friday, 11 May 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

owners not impressed with the Suarez PR disaster

yeah cos they did so much to help on that front didn't they. heard the dalglish rumour but i think it's a load of bollocks myself. more likely is that steve clarke will be shown the door and new assistant will be brought in, or borrell from the reserves will be promoted. new warrior home kit is lovely btw.

Chris, Friday, 11 May 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

Ooh, very nice. Love the badge. What have they done to Suarez' face though? He's all subtle disproportions.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 May 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

idk looks a lot cheaper irl in the video, the goalie top esp. think it's the collar mainly

lol at carroll in a roman centurion costume as well

r|t|c, Friday, 11 May 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

Kompany wins Players' Player Of The Year. Good choice imo, are they normally this bold? I kind of expect them to be the summer version of SPOTY, which might be unfair - can't remember if it was them gave it to li'l Scotty Parker last year.

Pardew takes the managers award, don't know who votes for that.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 May 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

what's the difference between this and the PFA award?

Number None, Friday, 11 May 2012 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

I read that Emery went to Spartak Moscow but now it looks like that's not official yet. He's fun to watch on the touchline.

boxall, Friday, 11 May 2012 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

I thought they were the same thing xp. Not ideal, having so many slap-up meals in the run-up to The Showdown. Cunning by your lads to avoid being in contention.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 May 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

It seems the award you're referring to is the "Barclays Player of the Season". The players gave it to RVP

Number None, Friday, 11 May 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

I'm on a nightmare run today

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 May 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

Looks like the players' last out there choice was Sheringham in 2001

Number None, Friday, 11 May 2012 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

Five posts today xp - I've endorsed Sparky and the Wolves players have been dissing Solbakken. Even the new Liverpool badge is getting slated.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 May 2012 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

And now a meta post as the final ignominy.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 May 2012 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

xp. na don't worry, no problem with liking the badge - as far as i can tell the removal of the flames isn't what people are angry about. the thing here is that only one of the support groups was consulted.

Chris, Friday, 11 May 2012 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

Article makes it look like there are competing splinter groups of victims' families and Liverpool are snubbing one or more of them. What caused the rift, if there is a rift?

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Friday, 11 May 2012 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

can't believe the board haven't appointed fan favourite kenny oh wait

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 May 2012 23:48 (thirteen years ago)

loving random Norwegian baldhead Sven Hassell btw but gonna take this to the non-Prem thread now

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 May 2012 23:50 (thirteen years ago)

the cold reality hits home

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 May 2012 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

these are truly the last days :(

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Saturday, 12 May 2012 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

The sun has fallen down
and the billboards are all leering
and those little england flags are all dead at the top of their poles.

nakhchivan, Saturday, 12 May 2012 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

We woke up one morning
and fell a little further down

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59804000/jpg/_59804936_mick_mccarthy_getty.jpg

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Saturday, 12 May 2012 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

i open up my wallet
and its full of Thudd

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/jobhosle/wallet.png

zappi, Saturday, 12 May 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

What happened to thudd's fundraising thing?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 May 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

fro still growing, but he's only raised 12% of his goal
http://www.justgiving.com/huddlefro

mizzell, Saturday, 12 May 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

http://p.twimg.com/AsZmk0xCMAA3tJY.jpg

mizzell, Saturday, 12 May 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

12% of a goal = peter crouch's return 2010/11 iirc

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 May 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

ok bolton let's do this

yoel rak (toandos), Sunday, 13 May 2012 06:25 (thirteen years ago)

I said 'kiss me, you're beautiful'
These are truly the last days

http://www.shropshirestar.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Mick-McCarthy.jpg

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

LBI making a comeback for this vital last fixture round.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

And we fell into it.
Like a daydream.
Or a fever.

http://www.expressandstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Roger-Johnson.jpg

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Sunday, 13 May 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

assuming this is just bait to get LJ posting again?

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

today of all days

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 12:33 (thirteen years ago)

yah i think it onimo finished it with a plom there but then it all went a bit drownedinsound in the second half

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 12:37 (thirteen years ago)

I'm going to the pub and I'm going to have a horrible afternoon. See you all later dudes.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 13 May 2012 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

LBI making a comeback for this vital last fixture round.

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, May 13, 2012 2:05 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I can't control myself, it is stronger than I am ;)

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

Celebrating the return of Mark van Bommel no doubt.

pandemic, Sunday, 13 May 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

You sicken me LBI

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

@Pandemic OTM, did you see the river of tears that floweth in his goodbye video? It's great to have him back when he's still actually, y'know, good a bit.

@IK.. ah hell you are OTM as well. I sicken myself.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

22 Mignolet
02 Bardsley
04 Turner
16 O'Shea
19 Bramble
08 Gardner
14 Colback
15 Vaughan
23 McClean
28 Sessegnon
09 Campbell

0-7?

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

And Fergie playing both Giggs and Scholes again? wtf

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

particularly strangled "And ... it's LIIIVERGHHH" from Tyler there. I think he missed his cue.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

Adebayor for Spurs, 1-0

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

i think he had just taken his first bite of the pre-match meal and was expecting steak

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

And Fergie playing both Giggs and Scholes again? wtf

Cowardly, negative 4-5-1 playing for 0-0 at The Etihad was bad enough. Doing it again today is just nonsensical.

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

Yossi replies for Arsenal, 1-0

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

adebayor can't even bottle it right ffs

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

iraqgoals is down ;_;

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

Bennayoun 0-1 for Arsenal

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

www.wiziwig.tv mencap

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

so if we beat arsenal's result we're p much in 3rd, right

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

Is it that close?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

if arsenal drop points and spurs win, spurs take third

mizzell, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

Close on goal difference I meant.

It was a comedy fuck-up by the WBA goalie btw.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

West Brom equalise

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

A yard offside too

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

2-1 west brom

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

lol

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

Cuuuuuuuunts

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

arsenal ffs

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

United - top of the league

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

Utd can only lose this now

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

Must be nearly full time, surely?

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

Time for Fergie to give back all those extra minutes?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

QPR about to score btw

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

Stoke's goal apparently very dubious.

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

can only hope Jarvis scoring again will be worth an extra few grand if we can offload the feckless cunt

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

santos equalises for arsenal, bad again from the keeper.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

City have 80% possession, QPR bus still holding out

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

fairly easily I might add

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

yaya mostly passing it sideways, a hundred qpr players in their own penalty area

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

Yaya injured, City fan begins sniffing

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

Yaya limping around like Omar Little

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

yet makes the goal!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

van persie with the kind of tackling that'll serve him well when he leads stoke's challenge for champions league football next season.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

surely QPR need to get a player outside of their own box now

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

Paddy Kenny doing his bit tbf

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

never get bored of watching Merse going ham

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

lol stream suddenly killed by disgruntled Red

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

More bad news for QPR

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

And more

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

have been thinking in the last fortnight maybe how this has been a really good season for Prem goalies in the main, even De Gea has ended up more beneficial than detrimental

today otoh is apparently a complete shitshow for wearers of padded gloves

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

O'Shea's been subbed off by Sunderland, looks like my "7 unfortunate own goals in the second half" bet's going down

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

QPR = Quite Properly Relegated?

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

god i wish Bolton wd just accept they belong in the Championship

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

aston villa are playing seven defenders. one must admire the boldness of setting yourself with no greater ambition than not losing 20-0.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

setting yourself up*

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

Unbearable wondering which two out of Spurs & Arsenal are going to take the remaining CL spots.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

thoroughly enjoyable jingoistic England advert from Carlsberg

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

oh shi

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

qpr scored! bad error from lescott

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

It's up for grabs now

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

ffs Joleon

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

Lescott! Tsk tsk.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

It's up to you now Sunderland

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

fu NV and fu Lescott

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

oh jesus i cant watch anymore of this

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

I think we can all get behind those sentiments xp

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

amazing, fulop pretty much punches the ball into his own net.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

god bless you Joey Barton

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

United on the rack since news of the City goal

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

lol red card for joey

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

NV otm

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

don't forget to Tweet about it, son

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

Barton red card

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

great entertainment

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

fuck

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

oh man someone get this shit up on youtube

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

hehe balotelli wants to join in

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

haha Barton on aguero

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

This is all a bit much for me.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

This is all set up for lol City obviously

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

lolling hard at Barton's meltdown

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

What did he do?

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

ok yeah aguero that went across the line right nice try

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

Paddy Kenny making amends

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

Defoe gtfi

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

Kicked someone, headered someone, had to be dragged off xps

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

It was what John Terry would've done if he was a real man

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

Not sure if ManC benefit from playing ten men though.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

xp lol

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

city really need yay a

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

*yaya

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

Balotelli will score the winner. Heard it here first people.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

xps it sounded a bit like one of those Royal Rumble moments where someone just clotheslines five opponents over the ropes in ten seconds

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

Fucking hell

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

wtf

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

QPR 2

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

omg

mookieproof, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

unbelievable

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

You meant Jamie mackie, right? xps

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

Ha ha.

Alba, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

on the counter ffs

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

fuckin ell. (xps!)

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

omfg

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

o_OOOOO

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

Sunderland to now equalise?

Alba, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

Still soooooooooooooooo long left

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

On the bright side, 14 more goals for Norwich sends Villa down

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think I could handle seeing Fergie's mug if it stays this way :-/

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

i really want city to win :(

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

me too.

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

was badmouthing Dzeko last night, he must be due

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

barely even a subplot I grant you but what is Newcastle's deal

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

my Citeh stream died, anyone? please?

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

Flat-track bully is exactly what City need today

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

quick nod to Mencap's display name

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

someone needs to Barton Tevez again and remind him he's got team-mates

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

a smith who

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

Tevez has been awful

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

ok, it's Mario Time

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

one england striker for another for qpr

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

Right, Stoke score, QPR can let up now

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

How'd that stay out?!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

fuck i thought he'd scored

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

Heh, Bothroyd the furthest-forward player there, on his own penalty spot

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

The game is up I'm afraid.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

This is not going to happen anymore for Citeh.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

holding my breath for st. totteringhams day today

hurry up norwich

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

bollocks to football tbh

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

Not knowing what game to watch, I turned on Grandstand. Robbie Savage:Football commentary :: Wallogina:ILX

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

lol

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

like Judas Iscariot in Borges' Three Versions of Judas, Joey Barton sacrificed himself in the knowledge that his permabanning was necessary for QPR's resurrection to succeed

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea-Liverpool is pretty intriguing, a hoy hoy

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

Alan Green on 5 Live a couple of minutes ago: "You wouldn't want to mess with Mark Hughes. He's a warrior you could trust with your wife." Understated yet incomprehensible.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

Wow. 30 attempts to 3 in Citeh's favour...

CraigG, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

Knowing today is his last professional game, Joey Barton is fine causing a ruckus before settling into his new job wikipedia-ing the quotes for News in Briefs.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

Thirty pretty crap attempts tbh

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

Lescott being useless for approximately the 418th time this afternoon.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

What a crap day, Rangers are saved and Man U win the title again.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

is there some sort of contractual reason the SSN folks aren't invoking the Chelsea-Barca game at every opportunity?

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

xp Glasgow Rangers that is.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

city not even close. depressing.

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

omens looking good for Chelsea to win the Champs League now :(

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

FFS City. Can't believe they let pig foetus and friends win the league.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

That was Balotelli's big chance flying past there.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

"pig foetus and friends" - a good way of putting it.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

the universe is somehow trying to tell us that it's the work of a cruel, insane demiurge

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

Right, get the fuck on with it

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

OH PLEASE GOD COME ON

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

WOW

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

ooooooooooh.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

Citeh SCORE

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

THREE MINS LEFTTTT

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

omg plz plz plz

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool losing... goodbye kenny.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

mon citeh

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

Thank fuck.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

omgomg

mookieproof, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

!!!

Alba, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

holy crap.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

hufegraiuyfgehiruwgfiuyehwgaifhuer

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

Greatest day ever!!!!!!!!!!!!

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

lol Merse's sound going fuzzy

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

lol

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

lmfao

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

took 4 goes to post that xp

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

HOLYLNKSD FSD

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

sorry for badmouthing you, demiurge

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

Wow wow wow

CraigG, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

football with the lols. great day.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

whole studio just corpsing

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

aguero took off his shirt. that'll be a yellow.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

lol sir alex

mookieproof, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

Greatest day ever!!!!!!!!!!!!

― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, May 13, 2012 5:54 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

oh ffs bbc i want to see tears. get better cameramen!

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

LOL ROONEY YOU CUNT

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

end football

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

fixed by Sky imo

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

That genuinely couldn't've gone better. Genuinely.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

fucking hell when you lose the title in the last minute it's a long drive back to Truro

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

My my

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

omfg you need to see Cisse celebrating w/ Nasri

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

my gf thought something was wrong with me when the 3rd went in....i couldn't speak for a while

jabba hands, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

i can't even. what.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

Even QPR just booting it out of play was perfect.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

Aguero a Michael Thomas for a weird old era

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

omfg you need to see Cisse celebrating w/ Nasri

lmao yes please

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

amazing , truly amazing end to the league. Cant ever imagine a more exciting end happening again

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

need to commemorate the occasion by firing Joey out of a big cannon

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu216/le_bateau_ivre/tt.png

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

even allowing for the lack of a WBA equaliser I think this might be my favourite day of football in... maybe 20 years

only just noticed Swansea won too XD

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

lol cisse celebrating like a mad city fan. that was... incredible

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

Joey Barton, Man City academy graduate, this is your day.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea-Liverpool trending? Really?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

;_;

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

i feel for Newcastle though :(

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

Your sacrifice is our gain, we salute you

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

two birthdays this year

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea-Liverpool trending? Really?

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:02 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

King Kenny's last knocking, innit.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea winning bumps us down to 12th :( of course, no one on here cares but me!

CraigG, Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, and 15 goals for Holt!

CraigG, Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

15? New twp imo.

I should have gone to the pub, I feel like hugging strangers.

Gabby Logan shouldn't be doing the classifieds. I know the guy who did it retired but couldn't they find someone new?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

lol

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

lol @ CHAMP1-6NS banner

*cough*smalltime*cough*

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

goodbye bolton. if lee&holden weren't shawx, you would be still around. shame to see them leave.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

@OliverKayTimes: Just seen City fan leave at 88 min, shaking his head. If you waited 44 years, surely you wait another few mins

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

Kompany seems like such a nice bloke

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

@OliverKayTimes: Just seen City fan leave at 88 min, shaking his head. If you waited 44 years, surely you wait another few mins

― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:09 (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

when you gotta go, you gotta go, ya know

CHAMP1-6NS (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

"for our supporters in abu dhabi"

cool berto.

CHAMP1-6NS (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

I want some CHOICE Ferguson quotes btw

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

I think the Sunderland dressing room may need some new doors tonight.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

Robbie Savage just said Roberto Mancini bought Man City their first trophy, the FA Cup. I presume this is a true fact and they have never won anything before him.

CHAMP1-6NS (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

don't forget football started in 1992

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

So is it City or Utd who are the bigger chokers? I don't know anything anymore.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

huge lols here watching the game in a restaurant where i had a group of ppl in front of me 2 rooting for man U 2 rooting for city. the man u dudes were making fun of their friends and then while they were celebrating, their other 2 friends started celebrating hard and making fun of them. the man u fans' faces were priceless at that moment. also some dudes in an apartment close by started yelling and blowing an air horn and someone shouted at them to shut the fuck up and let ppl sleep.

Jibe, Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

"Never has Queen's 'We Are The Champions' meant so much to so many people." Uhh Guy Mowbray they are singing Blue Moon.

CHAMP1-6NS (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA37VbKyMOw

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

would personally contest the use of 'fail' here but there y'go

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

did gael clichy have blue hair for the match or did that happen post-game?

CHAMP1-6NS (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

don't remember noticing in game but i was crying a lot thru the second half

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

http://indepthafrica.com/soccer/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/aguero-city1.jpg

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

what is the Utd message board worth looking at for batshit conspiracy theories?

CHAMP1-6NS (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

with Wonderwall comes the loss of goodwill and me turning the celebrations off.

CHAMP1-6NS (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

Wow. Weirdest 10 mins watching tv at gatwick cafe rouge ever.

caek, Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

delighted for nasri

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

Could someone break down what joey Barton did?

caek, Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1tpjYurl8o

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

Elbowed Tevez in the throat, deserved red. Then kicked Aguero on his way off, headbutted someone else. Some other stuff as well I think. Probably lost his career writing Times leaders too, at a guess.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

Lol thanks

caek, Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

Joey Barton Twatter

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

wonder how close Barton was in his mind to dropping the nut on the ref

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

anyone else feel that sanchez/aguero going down from weak knees in the back is super-fucking lame? it is a sending off anyway and they'll get the shit they deserve; now stay up like a man.

CHAMP1-6NS (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it's a bit crap but neither aguero or sanchez are pussies

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

Deserves the death sentance

18sri1 1 minute ago

I have no idea how the City players resisted caving his head. People like him are a valid argument for the death penalty being reinstated...

03john0 1 minute ago

fucking brilliant go on barton lad !!!!!

andrea kelly 1 minute ago

The blokes a thug, doesn't deserve this lavish life of his, terminate his contract, and let him get a job in sainsburys

youngerkeating1234 2 minutes ago

disgusting cunt

Tobya676 4 minutes ago

Absolute cunt. Big fuckin' man who can hit someone from behind. In a real fight he'd probably get the shit kicked out of him. Should never be allowed play again.

MasterofSpiders 4 minutes ago

Etc etc on youtube

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

http://avoidinglife.com/media/blogs/a/album-be-a-man.jpg

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

fucking brilliant go on barton lad !!!!!

Andrea otm

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

Well that was nuts.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

Ned and Marcello posting itt is the only accurate measure of today's gravity

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

none of the city fans i know can deal w/ this; one of them left the pub early & was sat at home wallowing in presumed defeat for almost an hour before his girlfriend came home to laugh at him

ogmor, Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.minus.com/ibrbOoRe6fTRMf.gif

zappi, Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

tremendous

mookieproof, Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

Ned and Marcello posting itt is the only accurate measure of today's gravity

Too true. I'm off to check Momus' twitter feed to see what he thinks.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

Hey now, I actually like football, folks. I just don't post about it as much as I used to!

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

awww

http://i.imgur.com/DNNiW.png

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

xp lol I know I just wanted to put a rare moment on a pedestal

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

Fergie manages to be a graceless cunt in defeat. What a surprise.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

rly? he sounded forcedly magnanimous on sky

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

Complaining about injury time and ten men?

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

The "five minutes injury time that helped them" comment was a disgrace tbh. Or plain trolling.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

Not even a disgrace, just shows him up as the small shoddy figure he is.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 13 May 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

lol

MPx4A, Sunday, 13 May 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

ehh ive watched the bbc interview too and if u think any football manager is going to be much less small and shoddy than that in the circumstances

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

No need to mention injury time or ten men, obv close to the best manager ever but charisma never there.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 13 May 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)

It does please me that the end of the Ferguson era, fingers crossed, arrives in way echoing its beginning, only a million times better.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

"I think we have a rich history, better than anyone and it will take them (City) a century to get to our level of history."

Welcome to hell.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 13 May 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

fkn wba goalie

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

fulop. figures.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

I was at White Hart Lane. It was sunny. Tottenham Hotspur played well for about half an hour and should have been further than 1-0 ahead. Fulham came back into it. Defoe came on and scored with his 3rd touch or the like. Never in doubt after that. But the players looked tired and slow in the very last minutes.

Good to win the game and get fourth place. Didn't expect that at start of the season. I would support Munich vs Chelsea even if the circs weren't as they are. It seems unfair that if a team wins the CL, another one gets knocked out.

I am disappointed that Manchester City have won the title, though I suppose it was 95% expected. Steady Mike texted me some results during the game which was nice. I think I missed out on the sense of drama that others seem to have experienced.

It is possible that I have watched the last minutes of Modric, or even Bale, at WHL. Or maybe not. King joined the post-match lap of honour. Perhaps he will not play a match again.

the pinefox, Sunday, 13 May 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

Barton tweeted: "People are forgetting Tevez started the fracas by throwing a punch to the head.

"Can do nothing but apologise to the players and the fans. Still don't think its a sending off."

After being ordered from the pitch, Barton floored Aguero with a kick, but said that this was aimed at inciting the Manchester City players.

He added: "The head was never gone at any stage, once I'd been sent off, one of our players suggested I should try to take one of theirs with me. It never worked but god loves a trier."

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 13 May 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

enjoyed seeing balotelli goading barton as he stormed off

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

Balotelli was really good when he came on. I don't think they'd've regained focus without him, let alone his through ball to Agüero.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

he gave them a bit of creativity and spark

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 13 May 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

who's the MOTD commentator on the City game? I know we all loved Gnev's ejaculatory voice but this dude has the most annoying timbre when he gets excited

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

am i missing motd???

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

Wiping the sweat from his brow, Chris Aylward, a sales assistant, said: "I've never felt like this in my life. I hope not only is this the start of something special in my life as a football fan but in my personal life as well."

yoel rak (toandos), Sunday, 13 May 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

supporting the team that wins the league opens a lot of doors for you aiui

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

pointed acronym

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

MOTD.

City being what they now are, I can't get excited for them.

the pinefox, Sunday, 13 May 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

They're not Chelsea or Man Utd.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 13 May 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

feel really lucky not to inhabit the parallel world in which hanson is spouting the most noxious drivel about city's lack of mental fortitude

ogmor, Sunday, 13 May 2012 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

otmfm

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

Linker just referred to Shearer as the former Liverpool manager :)

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

yeah city so vulgar compared to cottage industry clubs like man u

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

has a team ever won the league and the media said 'they didn't deserve it'?

doesn't feel like it.

the pinefox, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

ye're 20 mins ahead of me i think, no spoilers pls

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

can't bleev they let rooney's shock 96th minute equaliser for qpr stand.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

can't win the league w/o deserving it, even if this utd straggle had done it there're few legitimate grounds for complaint.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

got bit emotional watching that.what's wrong with me? the drama.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

SSN were being way the fuck over the top earlier about the poor keeping for that Kevin Davies goal

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

stoke-bolton described as delightfully nauseating.

mizzell, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

oh fergie fergie the look on yr face will warm me for decades

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

Oh man, the officials have screwed Bolton in this Stoke game. Over the season, though... dunno if them or QPR deserved to stay up more.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/527777_364623673595302_114682465256092_1027922_5291541_n.jpg

lost episode of murder she wrote

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

bolton fans not looking as heartbroken about getting relegated as man city's did when they almost didn't win the league.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

houllier at citeh?

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:16 (thirteen years ago)

City's fans have been so great this year. I think it helps that I've still never met one.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

holy fuck at the benayoun goal

mizzell, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

I don't dispute that winners deserve it. Only asking if media discourse have ever denied it. If not - then it becomes a tautology and not worth saying.

Hughes massive pride despite presiding over a defeat, finishing 17th and being narrowly saved by someone else's result. Hansen: 'it won't happen again cos he's a very, very good manager'.

the pinefox, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

flololp

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

lolndre santos

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

where is ken c at moments like these

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

jesus christ fulop

mizzell, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

Oh my, the third one... actually, no, the first one's worse, but the third one is still an utter disaster for the lad.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

third one more specifically redolent of my afternoon yesterday playing football with a five-year-old

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:24 (thirteen years ago)

Revenge for three years at Spurs without a game.

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

yeah fulop's no professional and should return any monies ever 'earned' as such imo

shearer shockoed, shocked! at barton's elbowy antics.

really, alan? really?

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

how's that stoke goal stand jesus

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

Shearer and Hansen disagree about Tottenham

next: a chance to congratulate Everton and their supporter.

Pienaar!

the pinefox, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

xp need to hear from the estate of Nat Lofthouse on this matter I think

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

Jelavic is really kind of great, isn't he? When he saw there it wasn't going to fall for his left and he changed feet, that was brilliant.

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

Moyes: "can't celebrate finishing 7th ... only 1st"

the pinefox, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

klata going to love shearers views on europa league

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

oh god this euro2k12 trailer

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

fucking shearer

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

"with expectation lower than ever maybe we can win it".

fuck off.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't mind it !

Steady Mike agrees with Shearer btw

the pinefox, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

"With expectations lower than ever, maybe we'll win it."

"Your guess is as good as ours!"

You get the feeling they could be selling this harder.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

big emerson boyce

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

wow

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

Emmerson Boyce does his equivalent of a Papiss Cisse!

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

so are wigan going to win the league next year?

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

martinez turning emerson boyce into maicon

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, Terry Connor.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

enjoyed that one last zing at Steve Kean's expense re: his stand-in keeper

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

martinez gonna be villa manager imo

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

wot, mcleish to chelsea?

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan won't win the Premiership 2012/13

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

(well pleased for Wigan and Martinez but if they send us down next season I will never forgive them)

xp - If Martinez didn't want to be Villa manager last summer, why on Earth would he want to be now?

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea vs Liverpool

the pinefox, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

cuz expectations are so much lower at villa now

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

stewart downing goals 0 assists 0

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:49 (thirteen years ago)

nice scuffle between carroll and williams.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:49 (thirteen years ago)

That afters with Carroll and Williams was quite hilarious.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:49 (thirteen years ago)

wao, carroll's perfectly-executed overhead kick.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

the package at villa likely to be much improved i'd say, along with lower expectations, and i think wigan won't get any better than scraped miracle survival, there's nowhere to take them from here.

maybe somewhere else, tbf, but lfc isn't going to happen and i can't right now think what other jobs btwn are gonna come up

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

why has Carroll not been dismissed?

the pinefox, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

andy carroll will be immense next season

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

kuddly kenny equalling sounesses marquee eighth place finish in 92

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

Tales filtering through of numerous City fans who left the ground, some in tears, before the injury time turnaround. I seem to remember reading about a Liverpool fan who left in disgust at half-time when they were 3-0 down against Milan. And George Best missed injury time in 1999 in Barcelona. It must feel weird to be one of these people - the moment of incomparable joy that will never be matched, that everyone will take about forever, and your own recollection of it is one of miserable ignorance.

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

deems surely u jest

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

there's always someone worse off than you

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

aww norwich and swansea. they're nice teams aren't they.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

RIGHT - COMPLAINING ABOUT GOAL OF THE SEASON TIME!

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

coruscating liverpool analysis from hansen there

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

Crouch had better England record than Grant Holt, so he will always be ahead of him. Thanks for that Alan.

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

I'm watching recorded MOTD about 25 minutes behind reality. Was there some kind of 'comedy' hairstyle thing going on at Spurs, or just coincidental decisions?

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

It's Ben Arfa's though, isn't it?

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

Eh, Ben Arfa's was against Bolton, though, which is the equivalent of scoring that goal on 2-star level on Pro Evo.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 13 May 2012 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

grotty bombastic montage

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 23:02 (thirteen years ago)

"that's not dribbling, that's running" - Capote on Ben Arfa

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

It reminds me more than anything of Maradona's second in THAT match so I take your point.

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Sunday, 13 May 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

Good GotS though, refreshing lack of usual suspects/standard order wellyings.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 13 May 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

kudos mencap

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

was thinking more of a Sunday league versh of that one Weah goal

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 13 May 2012 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

what now?

kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 13 May 2012 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

gorgeously bathetic appearance of venkychicken beneath martial strings

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

i never jest in the football threads

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

by Shearer's logic you would never pick an uncapped player if you could pick a capped one

mind you, I've decided that I would take Carroll

though I think this sounds daft, and he's a lumbering oaf, and I didn't like his handbags session today.

the pinefox, Sunday, 13 May 2012 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

"that's not dribbling, that's running" - Capote on Ben Arfa

One for post of the season, that.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

not jesting but clowning

nakhchivan, Sunday, 13 May 2012 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

Norwich win - report all about Villa
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/13/norwich-city-aston-villa-premier-league

--- "That was an unacceptable performance in Aston Villa colours and I have to change that, and there will be change," said McLeish

- but this is the team he has been coaching all season

the pinefox, Sunday, 13 May 2012 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll has to go to the Euros, I don't know why it's even a debate. Well, I do really.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 May 2012 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

barton bringing content atm

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 May 2012 00:04 (thirteen years ago)

just got back from the pub and i've only skimmed the thread but petty, petty stuff from Local Garda. Well done City. Quite a day

Number None, Monday, 14 May 2012 00:05 (thirteen years ago)

be fair, closest lfc fans come to league glory is utd not winning it iirc

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 00:10 (thirteen years ago)

"that's not dribbling, that's running" - Capote on Ben Arfa

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CHAMP1-6NS (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 May 2012 03:12 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll has been shocking all season and shouldn't be anywhere near the Euros. Ricky Lambert deserves it 10 times more than the former cornrowwed oaf.

CHAMP1-6NS (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 May 2012 03:14 (thirteen years ago)

So, did Dalglish deliver the module or not?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 May 2012 05:55 (thirteen years ago)

Why would you take Carroll when you could take Grant Holt, who I don't rate that much but he's been a much better oafish big man all season?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 14 May 2012 07:53 (thirteen years ago)

Hopefully this title victory will mean everyone can stop thinking of City as plucky underdogs and start hating them as the slave state oil spunk they actually are. At least the fans have stopped wearing tea towels on their heads.

Shame as I really like Aguero, Silva, Yaya, Kompany et al. But I still haven't forgiven Balotelli for that stamp against Spurs.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 14 May 2012 08:07 (thirteen years ago)

if dalglish claims that's a decent season will he be guilty of trying to lower expectations etc like hodgson apparently was?

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 08:37 (thirteen years ago)

Spent y'day in the pub, was a treat catching up on this thread. Good game lads.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Monday, 14 May 2012 08:51 (thirteen years ago)

Not to pile on unnecessarily here, but at least Souness's LFC in '92 finished closer to champions Leeds than they did to the relegation zone. Dalglish's side have just finished 16pts clear of the drop zone but 17pts short of the top four. With the worst Anfield record since 1949 and the fewest league goals since 1971. And yet...they seem to create huge quantities of chances. And, y'know, play good sides off the park.

Michael Jones, Monday, 14 May 2012 09:05 (thirteen years ago)

Downing apparently doesn't create chances, if he has 'no assists' all season.

the pinefox, Monday, 14 May 2012 09:28 (thirteen years ago)

So what...does he do, exactly? Perhaps he assists the assisters. He's more of an enabler.

Michael Jones, Monday, 14 May 2012 09:31 (thirteen years ago)

Downing creates lots of chances but gets all the zero assists zings because other players waste those chances. It would be interesting to see how many downing passes/crosses led to shots that were saved/off target - might give some indication of why he's still in the team.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Monday, 14 May 2012 09:33 (thirteen years ago)

a youtube of his crosses, were it to have a theme song, would be matched perfectly to the title & bewildered pathos of mccartney's 'for no-one'

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 09:34 (thirteen years ago)

hahaha, that must happen

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 May 2012 09:34 (thirteen years ago)

In many ways his job is to create a 'space' in which people (key skill colleagues, touchline managers, assistance delivery teams) can flourish by using their talents in a team setting that emphasizes diversity and togetherness.

the pinefox, Monday, 14 May 2012 09:35 (thirteen years ago)

bale and modric spent a long time in that spiritual desert while supplying crouch- their 'chances created' opta stats were amongst the highest in the league.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 09:37 (thirteen years ago)

a team setting that emphasizes diversity?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 May 2012 09:39 (thirteen years ago)

suarez is from south america

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 14 May 2012 09:41 (thirteen years ago)

i dint want to say nuffink tbh

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 09:44 (thirteen years ago)

Anyway I've long fancied trying to snap up Adam Johnson, he'd be worth a shot where Downing, Kuyt and Bellamy have been hitherto. I doubt City will be letting anyone else go who we could use.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 May 2012 09:49 (thirteen years ago)

and togetherness.

the pinefox, Monday, 14 May 2012 09:50 (thirteen years ago)

19 hrs behind everyone else and having managed to remain blissfully ignorant of y'days doings, have this morning caught up.

Blimey.

pandemic, Monday, 14 May 2012 10:14 (thirteen years ago)

Not sure which was worse, Joey Barton or Marton Fulup.

At least I can watch the CL Final safe in the knowledge that a Bayern defeat whilst disappointing would have a silver lining attached.

pandemic, Monday, 14 May 2012 10:15 (thirteen years ago)

What silver lining would that be?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 14 May 2012 10:18 (thirteen years ago)

ya u fucker

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 10:22 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea are rich anyway whether they have CL money or not. Spurs not making CL may perhaps have an effect on their revenue and mean the team is weakened or that the quality of new signings they could attract be poorer. This would be good for lfc, though seeing as we were 20 odd points behind Spurs this is clutching at straws. Still, clutch I will.

pandemic, Monday, 14 May 2012 10:27 (thirteen years ago)

ah stop man stop, we've nothing to do with the likes of you no more be off and bother the fulhams, the evertons

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 10:34 (thirteen years ago)

get off my lawn with your boombox, my daughter is with someone better now

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 10:35 (thirteen years ago)

we've switched to vodafone, the coverage is better, could you please take us off the database

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 10:36 (thirteen years ago)

Hahaha. It really needs no more justification than 'because lol', everyone would understand.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 May 2012 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

I actually thought Pandemic was a Spurs fan, which explains my confusion.

Deutschland Deutschland uber alles anyway.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 14 May 2012 10:48 (thirteen years ago)

If Chelsea win it'd be a fucking disgrace

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 14 May 2012 10:50 (thirteen years ago)

All those years of unnoticed brotherhood that pandemic's just pissed up the wall

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 May 2012 10:51 (thirteen years ago)

damn, if I'd realised that my affiliations were unknown I'd have claimed to be City thru and thru
44 years y'know *tearful gulp*

pandemic, Monday, 14 May 2012 10:53 (thirteen years ago)

Still only 20 years to go eh?

pandemic, Monday, 14 May 2012 10:53 (thirteen years ago)

Nice to see LFC dominating the guardian's 'Flop Of The Season' category with 3 players in the 10. Good job.

pandemic, Monday, 14 May 2012 10:58 (thirteen years ago)

Remember we had that flowchart thing that worked out how much of a glory hunting prick you were?

I'm West Brom or QPR depending on whether or not I want a rich owner. I think I'll go with the Albion. I will attempt to give a shit about them for a wee while.

― once a weak eye sample (onimo), Saturday, 11 February 2012 11:44 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Since I started "supporting" West Brom they've been a top half team. I'll wait to see who replaces the legned Roy Hodgson before deciding to continue my loose (baggy?) Baggie affiliation.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Monday, 14 May 2012 11:01 (thirteen years ago)

Tottenham dominating Game of the Season for the wrong reasons with two epic defeats and one draw.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 14 May 2012 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

@GaryLineker
@joey7barton Still raging then? Still kicking out? And still, presumably, misunderstood? But only by yourself I suspect.

burn

Djibril Citté (onimo), Monday, 14 May 2012 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

Of all the amazing things to happen yesterday, the Joey Barton sending off was my favourite. You couldn't ask for a more obliging pantomime villain to provide a last minute twist.

Also respect to the dude in the pub who shouted "philosophize that you cunt" really loudly.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 14 May 2012 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

In many ways his job is to create a 'space' in which people (key skill colleagues, touchline managers, assistance delivery teams) can flourish by using their talents in a team setting that emphasizes diversity and togetherness.

― the pinefox, Monday, 14 May 2012 09:35 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is such a great post

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Monday, 14 May 2012 11:12 (thirteen years ago)

Was it Gary Lineker xp?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 May 2012 11:21 (thirteen years ago)

Lineker's burn on Piers Morgan is one of my favourite tweets ever.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 14 May 2012 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

Ooooh:

@GaryLineker do u wanna go there publicly "Mr Squeaky Clean" ? Think u should have a look in that vast closet of skeltons before u respond.

@GaryLineker I know a lot about THAT side to u the people don't and won't bat an eye lid at exposing u. So mind ur manners Squeaky...

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 14 May 2012 11:24 (thirteen years ago)

this could be fun

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 May 2012 11:26 (thirteen years ago)

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00421/75_skelton_280x390_421512a.jpg

Djibril Citté (onimo), Monday, 14 May 2012 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

it would need to be vast tbf

Djibril Citté (onimo), Monday, 14 May 2012 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

Lineker spotted with a giant bag of sour cream and chive kettle crisps.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Monday, 14 May 2012 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

McLeish has gone, by the way.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 14 May 2012 11:31 (thirteen years ago)

Good riddance. Useless cunt.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Monday, 14 May 2012 11:32 (thirteen years ago)

very strange how Twitter seems to have opened up such public aggression among famous people
surely not a good idea for either of them, as employees of big organizations

He has ??? Last night he was saying he'd be there next season!

the pinefox, Monday, 14 May 2012 11:33 (thirteen years ago)

how apt that the news should break with a 'by the way'

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 May 2012 11:39 (thirteen years ago)

Pinefox - I doubt that's McLeish's call to make after the season Villa have had.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 14 May 2012 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

hardly even lerner's call tbh

that'll lernim

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

doesn't everyone know lineker's a shagger

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

http://fuckoffandscore.tumblr.com/

caek, Monday, 14 May 2012 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

no I agree it shouldn't be McLeish's call
just think it's funny it should happen so soon

no I don't know that about GL, thought he was married to a young beauty

news reports about Twitter seem to consist mainly of cutting and pasting from Twitter
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/14/joey-barton-twitter-alan-shearer

the pinefox, Monday, 14 May 2012 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

doesn't everyone know lineker's a shagger

― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 11:48 (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah I suspect that Barton's insider knowledge here is also available to anyone with access to Google or the ability to figure out heavy hints in tabloid news items

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Monday, 14 May 2012 12:08 (thirteen years ago)

http://papercutsrekindled.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/we-all-agree-manchester-city-are.html

the pinefox, Monday, 14 May 2012 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

i believe downing was 15th in the 'chances created' table for midfielders, 20th overall.

Chris, Monday, 14 May 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

Can somebody confirm that both City-QPR and Man U-Sunderland games this season ended 3-2 and 1-0, respectively?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Monday, 14 May 2012 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

that is correct

Chris, Monday, 14 May 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

2011/2012
PREMIER LEAGUE Su 13May 2012 Man City 3 - 2 QPR
PREMIER LEAGUE Sa 05Nov 2011 QPR 2 - 3 Man City

PREMIER LEAGUE Su 13May 2012 Sunderland 0 - 1 Man Utd
PREMIER LEAGUE Sa 05Nov 2011 Man Utd 1 - 0 Sunderland

Djibril Citté (onimo), Monday, 14 May 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

15th at Liverpool, or in the whole league?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 May 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

whole league. maybe i'd feel differently about him if we hadn't paid so much. no idea. this season's been a complete headfuck.

Chris, Monday, 14 May 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

some of the flack that Downing's taken seems pretty harsh considering that failure to create chances hasn't been Liverpool's problem this season

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 May 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

I reserve my bile for Charlie Adam. Oh, and Enrique's post Christmas output.

pandemic, Monday, 14 May 2012 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

lfc first team, no injuries?

Reina, johnson, enrique, skrtl, agger, lucas, downing, gerrard, ?henderson?, carroll, suarez.

Is that right?

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

You're forgetting Aquilani of course ;)

pandemic, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

play Aquilani for Gerrard since it's now been proved by science he makes the team worse

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

If you're really talking no injuries, Bellamy in for Downing. Agree that Henderson doesn't seem right, but he's definitely first pick over Maxi or Kuyt.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

i'd have henderson in the middle with lucas. didn't suarez play on the right of a 3 at ajax?

Chris, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

I actually think Henderson will be really v good within the next 2 years. Not as a RWinger tho.

pandemic, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

i love henderson. great finish against chelsea. he's so easy on the eye, good first touch, can move the ball under pressure. him and johnson are two of my favourite players to watch. coates and suarez up there for goal of the season of course, but johnson's goal at chelsea is just as good for me.

anyway, sounds like kenny's gone to boston to meet the bosses. i reckon he's staying, which i'd be happy about. even happier if we promote borrell or get someone in with the type of defensive game and flexibility that will allow kenny's attacking philosophy to flourish even more. i'd like to see us move the defensive line up and press again, which should help pepe get back to his best as a sweeper keeper. otherwise there's an argument for selling him and sticking with a 'shot stopper' like doni. bringing back rafa's goalkeeping coach would be nice too.

Chris, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

don't really get how steve clarke is somehow the fall guy for a shit season

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

I was going to post an excerpt from the Wiki page on "2011-12 Liverpool FC season", specifically the May entry, where a single sentence is devoted to each of the three defeats this month (17 words on the Cup final) but we get 181 words on the league win vs Chelsea. Aw, bless. Breathless, semi-literate, fan-maintained Wiki pages, you gotta love 'em.

But I didn't because it would seem like I was crowing or something.

Michael Jones, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

(i) not dalglish

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

not saying kenny's blameless, but clarke seems to responsible for the tactical minutiae and how we set up defensively. the deep line also seems to be reminiscent of his time at chelsea with mourinho. kenny's more of a macro manager. i think he has the right ideas, but it's implementing them fully which has been part of the problem. i think someone like borrell would be more suited to how i think kenny wants us to play.

Chris, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

i do change my mind a million times a day wrt whether or not kenny should stay btw. at the moment i think i'm ok with it.

Chris, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

idk what a macro manager gets paid for

'i'd like us to attack more, do kind of better things with the white round thing, the ball, what? those fan chappies like that sorta stuff, eh?' *saunters off to the lounge,making vaguely tally-ho type motions*

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

plus there's a director of football to sort out and the implications that will have for kenny etc etc etc. in short, no idea.

moving on... been meaning to say for ages, i love ramires.

Chris, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

personally think another year of kenny will be a disaster. but prove me wrong kenny, prove me wrong.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

i agree, but who to go in there? and under what kind of system?

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

i can see both sides. i mean right now i genuinely don't know what i want to happen. this is only an hour after i said "i reckon he's staying, which i'd be happy about". eurgh. don't wanna think about it anymore. good luck fsg. right now i wanna buy panini stickers and predict scores for the euro 2012 the guy down the road's organised.

Chris, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

*the euro 2012 predictor game. the guy down the road did not organise euro 2012 itself.

Chris, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

yeah don't know who would go in, i feel like a bit of a gamble on somebody who will shake things up a bit, eg villas-boas, though he prob wouldn't want it, is the way to go.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

idk what a macro manager gets paid for

'i'd like us to attack more, do kind of better things with the white round thing, the ball, what? those fan chappies like that sorta stuff, eh?' *saunters off to the lounge,making vaguely tally-ho type motions*

― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac)

clough was a macro manager. sometimes it can work.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

sometimes = 1980

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

@alxmclsh: I am Alex Mcleish the girl, not the football manager. RANDOM GUYS STOP TWEETING ME TELLING ME I JUST GOT FIRED!

kid steel (cajunsunday), Monday, 14 May 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

Getting in Villas Boas would essentially involve having to ship out two years' worth of signings, pretty much everyone except Suarez and Enrique. If the owners are prepared for that level of investment, and possibly writing off a load of Carroll/Henderson money, then fair play to them, but I can't see them doing it for a guy who's just failed at Chelsea.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

It would probably improve Liverpool in the medium term but it would be a very expensive way of going about it.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

they're probably more like villa, 'nice' americans let 90s manager spend millions on english shite followed by financial retrenchment & relative austerity

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

I don't really want anything much to happen I don't think, the appetite for change has been beaten out of me continuously since it became clear Rafa was on his way. It feels like any change is only going to be for the worse, which is ridiculous because ... y'know.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:29 (thirteen years ago)

Is that an Iron Cross on Tevez's banner?

gyac, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

Scholes to play for another year

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 14 May 2012 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

It's like signing a new player!

Number None, Monday, 14 May 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

I wouldn't be dumbfounded to see Del Piero rock up at OT in the summer

Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 May 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

you're not the only one

Number None, Monday, 14 May 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

i was going to poll this years retirees / arabian vacationers....del piero, rvn, nesta, inzaghi, zambrotta, raul.....

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 May 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

heard a whisper that West Ham are getting rid of Ravel Morrison already. Dear me

Number None, Monday, 14 May 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/khlVn.jpg

the only visible indicator of time's flight is the slow leeching of pigmentation

soon his entire skull will be grey, completely grey

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 May 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

pls dont tempt fate by talking about west ham in the epl thread

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 May 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

a better manager than dalglish would do better with those players, give or take a winger and some squad bolstering

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

idk deems, it's always about the wingers and the big number nines

if that was true martin o'neill's villa would have won the champions league http://i.imgur.com/mISov.gif

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 May 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

mon's celtic did well in the cl bytimes, but lfc have a bit more to them than that surely

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

it was strachan that got them into the knockout stages not mon

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 14 May 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

well there was that time their fans got the special award in seville for getting to the uefa cup final but not smashing the whole fucking place up like rangers or atletico madrid fans

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 May 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

oh that's harsh

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

MON had Celtic unbeaten at home in Europe for absolute yonks and managed to get knocked out of the groups with 9 points.
MON in Europe > Gordon Strachan in Europe imo, though both came up short tactically, particularly away from home.

xpost
We are true masters of occasionally getting pished and not making total cunts of ourselves.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Monday, 14 May 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool's current squad is probably no better than newcastle's let alone the top four

a better manager than dalglish might have got another ten points just by correcting the obviously terrible decisions like playing a cm of gerrard and adam, but they'd still be seven points off the top four

nakhchivan, Monday, 14 May 2012 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

can mp4xa perhaps explain why villa fans seem weirdly cocky about paul lambert taking over

i did have a natter with a villa lad the other week who thought the club was all set to build properly again now all of the deadwood's out of contract but uhhhh those accounts looked pretty rotten iirc

r|t|c, Monday, 14 May 2012 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

oh there's another villa fan on here as well isnt there, i forget who soz

r|t|c, Monday, 14 May 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

ez snappin

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 14 May 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

LATEST:

Manchester City apologise to Man United's Sir Alex Ferguson over striker Carlos Tevez's 'RIP Fergie' banner at title parade

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 14 May 2012 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

sorry if someone has posted this already:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xcB9XfLjL8&feature=youtu.be

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Monday, 14 May 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

not sure any lfc fans would sniff at another ten points, tbph.

P sure that lfc's squad is better than newcastle's. V sure, tbh.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 07:59 (thirteen years ago)

There used to be a supermarket chain called MACRO.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 10:32 (thirteen years ago)

and a BBC computer called MICRO.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 10:32 (thirteen years ago)

did my video above get taken down by youtube? it was the steve kean rant... can't see it now.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 10:36 (thirteen years ago)

No, it's still up. Enjoyed that, but then I think he's great anyway. Slagging off Big Sam, grandiose promises, the commode mouth - love it all. I'd like it if he licked these guys' boots a bit less, but that's Kean for you, he challenges you at every turn.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:18 (thirteen years ago)

i can't see it

Djibril Citté (onimo), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:21 (thirteen years ago)

me "either"

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:32 (thirteen years ago)

lots of dalglish resignation rumours on twitter.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

rumours of Martinez? Hadn't occurred to me I must say

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:42 (thirteen years ago)

No, thank you.

pandemic, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

ludicrous rumours of rafa and martinez teaming up! it worked well with houllier and evans, i say try it again.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

in fact, two managers would be good, but three would be two more than any team in the league.

let's go rafa/martinez/capello

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool not confirming or denying it, I guess that's it then?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:47 (thirteen years ago)

amazing - and both are looking good for another 20 years at least

1246:
BREAKING NEWS: FOOTBALL
Manager of the 20 Seasons has been awarded to Sir Alex Ferguson, who has won 12 Premier League titles in his time in charge of Manchester United.

1245:
BREAKING NEWS: FOOTBALL
Ryan Giggs has been named Player of the 20 Seasons of the Premier League as selected by an expert panel.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:51 (thirteen years ago)

Benitez might be good for LFC, now.

I like the Benitez / Capello team idea.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:51 (thirteen years ago)

No, thank you.

― pandemic, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:43 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

classic Liverpool, can see this working out well

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

really? kinda bemused by the martinez hype to be honest.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't you see the way he single handedly almost made Gary Caldwell look like a Premier League defender?

Djibril Citté (onimo), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

http://twitter.com/#!/king_7_kenny

only just seen

"I went but I am back, older, wiser and with a vengance" [sic]

can't quite tell if this is real

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:59 (thirteen years ago)

is THIS a joke?

http://twitter.com/#!/SportDistort/statuses/68797849135095809

I am not used to twitter

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not saying Martinez is rubbish, just that it would be a fairly wild gamble to put him in charge of a club going for honours.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

iirc lfc ilfers got stick for the lack of enthusiasm when Hodgson was appointed as well. It turned out well in the end tho.

pandemic, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

still getting stick for that as apparently he did such a brilliant job.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

they prob would have finished in the CL this year, or won the league, if they'd kept Hodgson and stayed up last year.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

yeah because the scores were right your sentence now is perfect.

i love the way football works like that.

― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Monday, 14 May 2012 13:36 (Yesterday) Bookmark

r|t|c, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

martinez would do as well as dalglish, i think, but that's sidestepping that dalglish is leaving for a reason.

Nobody currently managing in the pl fits the job.

Rafa back? Oh pls.

Foreign manager? Ramos put me off for lyfe tbh.

It'll be AVB I reckon

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

The iconic Frenchman was the preferred option of the hundreds and thousands of voters from around the world for the nonchalant way he acknowledged his goal against Sunderland at Old Trafford in 1996...

...With Old Trafford in raptures, the mercurial forward slowly pirhouetted on the spot, surveying the scene and calmly taking in the magic of the moment, before eventually holding his arms aloft as McClair arrived to celebrate his brilliance.

Upon hearing that he had won the award, Cantona said: "That's the only thing I won? For a king like me it's not a lot."

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

not really seeing a point there, xpost, but feel free to make one.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:29 (thirteen years ago)

we need, i mean we really need, as a board, to figure out the houllier/rafa/hodgson/dalglish thing, aside from the 'coddled the precious fans' thing, which has really fouled the water.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:30 (thirteen years ago)


Roberto Martinez 3
Rafael Benitez 5/2
Andre Villas-Boas 12
Paul Lambert 14
Brendan Rodgers 14
Jose Mourinho 16
Martin ONeill 16
Steve Clarke 16
Unai Emery 16
Jorge Jesus 16
Carlo Ancelotti 20

Djibril Citté (onimo), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

Steven Gerrard 40/1

Djibril Citté (onimo), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

i tried a glib response to that, dmac, but it's actually v tough to separate the bosses. (apart from the fact that roy and dalglish are on some distant lower level and part of a different era really, "the shit years")

assessing evans introduces a whole other set of probs. the years of dour and narrow bogball that followed his exit seem a sort of cul-de-sac from which we can't really escape, even as dalglish supposedly tries to play more open and attacking football.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

martinez would do as well as dalglish, i think, but that's sidestepping that dalglish is leaving for a reason.

Nobody currently managing in the pl fits the job.

Rafa back? Oh pls.

Foreign manager? Ramos put me off for lyfe tbh.

It'll be AVB I reckon

― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:27 PM (5 minutes ago)

i like the way rafa is somehow not a 'foreign manager' unlike say the foreigns who have won the league two out of the last three years

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

houllier- made ye feel young & beautiful when ye took a holiday to greece, byeee roy!
Rafa- made brilliant love to ye, told beautiful lies, stopped ye seeing your friends and beat you when he drank. When he left he took your jewellery.
Woy- picked you off the pavement, took you home, gave you a bath and a brandy. Probably cooked your dinners, always wondered why you wouldn't let him frot you. Seemed relieved when you were gone when he came home one day.
Dalglish- you ended up with a bitter drunk, nobody surprised. Keep the eyes peeled for the next latino waiter, though!

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

srsly they should get rafa back

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:39 (thirteen years ago)

i was using foreign as 'not managed in epl', sorry- hence avb being allowable.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

from onimo's list
no, yes, yes,dunno, yes,no,no,no,yes,dunno, no

pandemic, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

Rafa still lives in Liverpool doesn't he? Not foreign

Number None, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

yes to rafa back? can't stomach more rafa, i really think now it's time for a clean break and a strong-minded person and no more insular lfc past/present headfuck

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

Rafa holding out for Chelsea iho

Djibril Citté (onimo), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

yah i know deems, but i think yr slip says something about the way successful foreigns are treated as sort of naturalized english

like rafa is the bryan robson or graeme souness of the 10s, he will be linked to every managerial vacancy until he is like 78 yrs old because he won the european cup with liverpool

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

MON

Could it finally be MON?

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

can't see rafa coming back. Also don't think it'd really work either. But I am a huge Rafa stan and will probably never be as enthusiastic about a LFC manager again as I was about him. Love you Rafa ;)

O'Neill can Fuck Off btw

pandemic, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

MO'N's been linked with it since his second season at Celtic iirc.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

iiarc he once took someone to court to prove he didn't want to manage Liverpool.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

i don't think there are any obviously great upcoming managers who are going to consider liverpool

emery is probably the closest because it's known he wants to manage here at some point, but he can't really speak english

all of the successful foreign managers have spoken at least reasonable english

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

no odds for guardiola?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

ferguson?

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

Darren Ferguson?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

pep's looking for a challenge, not a penance ffs

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

this thread is 366 posts off being the longest ever on ilx fwiw

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

Guardiola was further down the list but I've just checked and he's only 14/1

Full list here
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/liverpool-specials/next-permanent-manager

Djibril Citté (onimo), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

bielsa!

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

Kenny doing his best to deliver that module at least xps

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

he's already had success in a rainy maritime city with tradition of separatism and long ball football xp

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

ferguson re: foreigner who's done well without speaking dece english

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

Carra only 14/1 with Paddy Power

Djibril Citté (onimo), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

Bielsa's a decent shout, but I reckon they'll clear the decks and go for a promising young man - avb and martinez seem likely suspects.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

Nobody knows anything tbh, bookies' lists are only useful as aides mémoires.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

villas boas needs to force the press to get rid of the acronym, buy a proper coat and stop doing that chin massaging gesture while answering questions in a flinty and evasive manner

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

Nicely done Sammy

"I now hope the Arsenal fans can get on with their lives and forget me, they should celebrate their third-place achievement and I will focus on winning titles."

pandemic, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

Actually Sami, not Sammy.

pandemic, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

he's a class act, it's true

Djibril Citté (onimo), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, can't imagine Sammy Lee saying that. Hey - how about Sammy Lee?

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

He's fat he's round..etc

pandemic, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

I called his character a cunt on FIFA last night, so I guess I'm not getting on with my life.

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

is this official btw? links?

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

(Nasri's, not Sammy Lee's)

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

Joseph Barton ‏ @Joey7Barton

Think I'll sit by the pool and reflect on not only on how lucky I am but how hard I work and how far that hard work has taken me...

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

Not official, but LFC refusing to deny it plus Kenny have been 'in a meeting' since before 7am Boston time means the canny Glaswegian's days in the Anfield hotseat may be numbered.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

That's only a 2hr meeting tbf

pandemic, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

He's taken them thru our season chance by chance.

pandemic, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

meh

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

my respect for the fenway cunts has been diminished by the news that they hold business meeting before 7am and expect a 60 yr old scottish dude to travel across the atlantic and comply with their depraved american customs

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

pointing out that expanding the goals by a width of a post would have secured a champions league spot

Djibril Citté (onimo), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

Sky Sources confirm Sam Allardyce is taking legal action against Steve Kean

i'm going to allow this! etc

would pay to watch a US-style dramatisation of this trial.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

poor bastards have got their work cut out between lfc and the red sox
xp

pandemic, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

bizarre thing is this thread has not confirmed that KD goes

I will have to look elsewhere again and try to find out

agree with Nakchivan -- it's a long way to fly, let him sleep before the meeting, etc etc - seriously.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

betting has been suspended on KD going, that's the most concrete evidence so far, at least.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

nothing on internet suggests this as yet

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

scouse guy in office wants to fight me for announcing it. he's furious. i may bait further, wish me luck

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

Sky Sports Mobile ‏ @SkySportsMobile
Betting suspended on Kenny Dalglish being in charge of Liverpool next season, Roberto Martinez and Rafa Benitez favourites to replace #LFC

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

betting has been suspended on KD going

That happens a lot though. Might stick a cheeky fiver on LeBron James, his rehabilitation starts here

Number None, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

yeah fair point, my "at least" was doing a lot of work in that sentence.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

I really want Benitez back, if not KD to continue

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

Capello's looking for a job, but I can't imagine him at Liverpool.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

nah, he's used to winning clubs

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

Ned: Since the police can't seem to get off their duff-a-roonies to do something about this burglar-ino, I propose we start out own neighborhood watch (pause) aroony! (everyone cheers) Now, who should lead the group?
Man: You!
Everyone: (cheering again) Flanders! Flanders! Flanders!
Ned: Well, I don't have much experience, but I'd be--
Moe: Someone else!
Ned: (more cheers) Someone else! Someone else! Someone else!
Homer: I'm someone else!
Lenny: He's right!

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

is that about players' houses?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

Let the UK's leading sales & marketing expert Steve Clarke show you how to increase your sales & grow your business whilst your competitors call it a day!

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:25 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.eurekasales.co.uk/#

shd bring in the big kit deals

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

Speaking after receiving the award as France's Footballer of the Year on Monday night, Hazard said: 'To Manchester, I can reveal that a decision will be made on my destiny within days.'

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

Sunday was the first time I've watched him at length. He's really good, in a Nasri way.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

hmmn nasri's beautifully sotto voce trolling reads quite differently to hazard's potboiler grandiloquence

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.arsenalsite.com/media/galeria/102/1/0/4/1/o_arsenal_fc_samir_nasri-3191401.jpg

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/15/rio-ferdinand-roy-hodgson-england-euro-2012

D Taylor's reports on Manc players: horribly psychologized, emotional - 'RF is understood to be dismayed' etc

meanwhile, KD 'still in limbo'

the pinefox, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:07 (thirteen years ago)

Ought Rio to be there on merit? I haven't seen him much this year. If he should, I'm very dubious about picking Terry instead.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:21 (thirteen years ago)

impression per lord ferg is it's not about merit but whether he can manage the schedule. fa didnt need a second chance to defuse the racewar either

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:26 (thirteen years ago)

how much has rio even played?

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:27 (thirteen years ago)

Rio had a nightmare start to this season but has been pretty good since, and he's usually played better than Terry for England but, yeah, massively injury prone by this stage.

The problem is that Terry will likely prove a poisonous presence in the dressing room in general, it's not just Ferdinand, it's potentially an issue with all black players who don't play for Chelsea.

Not taking Richards with Walker injured seems an odd move as well.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:28 (thirteen years ago)

oh sorry klats you said 'ought'

erm idk i don't think so. terry does need a sweeper alongside ideally but that's probably asking too much of rio now? terry/cahill are a pretty maladroit unit at anything other than classic brit trenchcraft though so

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:33 (thirteen years ago)

how much has rio even played?

― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:27 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

30 games or something? most since 2007 i think

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:34 (thirteen years ago)

Exactly. I doubt it's just the black players, I can't imagine him as anything other than insufferable to be around, except as a cartoon John Bull (is that enough? Maybe it is)

What's wrong with Richards, exactly? It doesn't take long for managers to decide they don't fancy him.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:35 (thirteen years ago)

'Exactly' was xp to Matt. Rio's been ever-present this year apparently. I wouldn't know, Utd were always just the team playing in the game I wasn't watching.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:36 (thirteen years ago)

richards naive but potentially good, johnson accomplished but likely shit, you decide

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:37 (thirteen years ago)

IDGI, Richards at this point is better going forward and getting back than Johnson.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:37 (thirteen years ago)

not quite as varied as johnson going fwd imo

Who's englands right wing? No joeks pls.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:39 (thirteen years ago)

physically maybe yeah but johnson has far better technique offensively

personally i would go for richards usually but next to terry and cahill it seems vaguely disastrous

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:42 (thirteen years ago)

The hints about Gary Neville urging a clean break and going entirely with young players is encouraging. A raw but pretty talented side playing with the pressure off could be a lot of fun.

That Roy's apparently already promised the captaincy to Gerrard is less so, though I guess he could get with that state of mind.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:43 (thirteen years ago)

think it'll be milner tbh

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:44 (thirteen years ago)

Given the geriatric Fulham team Roy assembled I suspect G-Nev is destined to be disappointed.

RW = two from Lennon-Walcott-Milner-anyone else? Left wing doesn't feel nailed on for anyone either, except maybe Ashley Young. Downing could still make it. Theo missing out yet again would be hilarious.

Apparently Carroll has got the nod over Crouch which is just fucking stupid and I don't even like Crouch that much.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:45 (thirteen years ago)

---------- hart
johnson terry cahill cole
milner gerrard parker young
----- carroll welbz

i expect

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:45 (thirteen years ago)

i am both a crouch and carroll sentimentalist but wouldve done the same as woy

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:47 (thirteen years ago)

Mmmmm lumpen.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:48 (thirteen years ago)

aoc, a johnson?

Carroll far, far better than crouch.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:49 (thirteen years ago)

any chance for any swansea/norwich etc surprises?

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:50 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll might just be starting to turn things around, and at least he's actually useful as the big tall good with his head disruptive lump, unlike Kraaxtchi

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:51 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll is playing well, guys. It looks like a sudden turnaround but he's been improving all year. England are not going to be an intricate, fancy side this summer, stick him in there and tell him to go for everything and it'll be fine.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:51 (thirteen years ago)

hope and trust not

advocating grant holt is the height of inanity

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:52 (thirteen years ago)

carroll can stand there and do nothing and still be more effective than crouch, whose only useful characteristic that i can recall is his ability to stand behind the goal and have air shot up his arse whenever there's a goal

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:54 (thirteen years ago)

besides, carroll/rooney the 100m strikeforce is too lol of a concept not to cherish

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:55 (thirteen years ago)

crouchie's diving game is light years ahead of big andy's in fairness

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:56 (thirteen years ago)

racism/cuntness aside is there really no better defender to play than Terry?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:01 (thirteen years ago)

crouch, tbfttl, is probably the most-fouled, least-rewarded footballer in england.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:01 (thirteen years ago)

cuntiness aside, i'd say not

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:02 (thirteen years ago)

think Lescott may've shot himself in the foot a wee bit in that last match.

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:04 (thirteen years ago)

guardian commenter did a bit on what each club was best at in the league statistically:

Manchester City – most goals (93), most shots (666), most shots on target (399), most shots and shots on target in a single game (35, 24 – v QPR), fewest goals conceded (20), most home points (55), most home wins (18) and at that point I stopped writing down any more things. There were lots of others.

Manchester United – most first half goals (40), most away points (42), most away wins (13) and again, stopped writing them down, and again, there were lots of others.

Arsenal – highest 2011 away accuracy (64.18%), most goals in February (14)

Tottenham Hotspur – highest number of corners in a game (19 v Villa – joint with MCFC v QPR and NUFC v SAFC), most points in September (9) November (9) January (10) and May (7), most goals in November (8) January (9) and May (7)

Newcastle United – highest 2012 away efficiency (28.89%)

Chelsea – most shots in 2011 (314)

Everton – highest 2012 home save rate (92.31%) and efficiency (27.54%), most goals in April (14)

Liverpool – most corners (308)

Fulham – the only team with no red cards this season. Good lads, they are. Also, recovered two half time deficits to win, so highest turnarounds.

West Bromwich Albion – most away goals in February (6)

Swansea – fewest fouls (309) and yellow cards (40), highest home save rate (87%)

Norwich – most away goals in January (4 – joint with Liverpool and Sunderland)

Sunderland – highest 2012 efficiency (24.47%) and save rate (86.36%)

Stoke – highest home efficiency (26.6%)

Wigan Athletic – most points in April (9)

Aston Villa – I swear I am not doing this on purpose but I genuinely can’t find a thing...

Queens Park Rangers – highest percentage of points at home (70.27% - rising to 95% in 2012)

Bolton – highest home accuracy (64.96%) and 2011 accuracy (67.45%)

Blackburn Rovers – highest 2011 away efficiency (31.37%) and conversion rate (18.6%)

Wolverhampton Wanderers – highest percentage of points away in 2012 (87.5%)

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:06 (thirteen years ago)

Lescott's leap into the net on Mackie's goal was a joy to behold

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:07 (thirteen years ago)

The problem is that Terry will likely prove a poisonous presence in the dressing room in general, it's not just Ferdinand, it's potentially an issue with all black players who don't play for Chelsea.

Not taking Richards...

Well that's one of those tricky Terry issues avoided - along with Rio conflicts avoided by dropping him.

Let's hope "diffusing race row" doesn't end up = "dropping black players to appease a cunt"

Djibril Citté (onimo), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:41 (thirteen years ago)

hardly linked, tbph

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:44 (thirteen years ago)

yes they are, I just did it right there

Djibril Citté (onimo), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:45 (thirteen years ago)

hardly

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:47 (thirteen years ago)

I wouldn't advocate taking Holt either but he's been a better lumpen big man than Carroll this season.

On the assumption that Woy won't even consider deviating from 4-4-2 would probably start with Welbeck and Defoe rather than bothering with lumpen big men at all.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

welbeck's reasonable in the air

keep forgetting rooney's suspended for the first two and last two of yr games

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:14 (thirteen years ago)

Welbeck's movement and awareness and approach play are much better than most of this lot as well, which makes me wonder how he'd click with Defoe.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

that's an overlapping set xp

Djibril Citté (onimo), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

might rather sturridge ahead of defoe now personally

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

am rly tempted to draft wite vs non-wite english national teams

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:18 (thirteen years ago)

Carroll played so badly for the majority of the season that Liverpool's then director of football, Damien Comolli, was trying to move him out in January but by early evening the former Newcastle United striker, on his way to a Westlife concert, had not been among the list of thanks-but-no-thanks calls Hodgson was making.

This seems sufficent justification not to pick him.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:18 (thirteen years ago)

Big clubbism will probably put Studge in there but hasn't he been pony for most of the second half of the season?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

aoc sturridge wellbeck lennon young lennon walcott defoe

These are not terrible front three/two options, ppl

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

There's an early photo of him & Kenny at a Boyzone gig. I'd assumed it was Dalglish's choice tbh, but if he's still incarcerated in Boston I'm not so sure.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:20 (thirteen years ago)

Sturridge has been terrible I believe, he was certainly hopeless when I saw him at Arsenal.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:21 (thirteen years ago)

still sulking over being played out wide?

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

aoc sturridge wellbeck lennon young lennon walcott defoe

Yeah but will they get the best out of John Terry?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

I would *love* to see those with Terry and Gerrard in a 1-1-8

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:25 (thirteen years ago)

i mean for non-wite eng xi obv

wite eng front pairing has already been discussed, ireland's is better tbph

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:25 (thirteen years ago)

A midfield 4 that comprises 3 of Lampard, Gerrard, Milner would be almost as slow as Inter Milan's. I mean I can remember Gerrard being fast back when he was fit I guess but not recently. Also expecting him to play a game every 4 days (which seems to be the thinking behind Rio's omission) is the height of wishful thinking imo

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

just realized that the alleged racial tension / aggro divided camp thing is the closest England have come to being like Holland

I like Stevie G and am still happy for him to be captain. But surely not with Lampard.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:39 (thirteen years ago)

Lampard has been better than Gerrard this season

Number None, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

I really hope Paul Scholes' wife or kids aren't on the phone or the internet, he might miss his call from Roy. I'm assuming he only has a landline.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

should recall shearer also, and gazza?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:42 (thirteen years ago)

gerrard used to be slated here even when he was good, but he hasn't had a good season since 08/09 at this point, i can't comprehend how he is near the national team, he is a shadow of the player he once was.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

Should we take this onto the Hodgson thread once the squad is announced?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

have we beaten the all time longest ILE thread yet?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

still about 250 to go

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

249 now

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

no, wait

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

Is there any way Roy could select an entirely black 22-man squad, plus John Terry?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:47 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYJzcUvS_NU

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

would need Rio to take a turn in goal

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/2333main_MM_Image_Feature_19_rs4.jpg

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

gerrard acknowledged as a good but wasteful/tactically disruptive player for england ever since i've ilx'd

In the same manner that lampard is acknowledged as effective but anonymous/shite and tactically disruptive for england

That they are fine individual players when a midfield of excellent players is based solely around them is not in question.

That either should be welcomed with joy into an england team is entirely another.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

england have very few players that don't have major drawbacks, essentially, even the guys that are world-class at what they do at their clubs.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

I laughed at Sacchi's quote on Gerrard about how 'some players have all the skills in world, but cannot play football'

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

That they are fine individual players when a midfield of excellent players is based solely around them is not in question.

That either should be welcomed with joy into an england team is entirely another.

gerrard isn't a fine player anymore.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

saachi's just picking on him cos he h8s liverpool, probly lurks tbh

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

what's the current longest

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

ilx

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

thread

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

?

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

xps, studge was played out of position (and, admirably in a striker imo, never backed down from calling bullshit on it) first half of the season and di matteo hasnt given him a look in since the fall of avb. international class predator at bolton the year before though, and er... idk sometimes you can just tell without the great body of evidence who's quality

doubt he'll ever get what he wants at chelsea, spurs could and probably will do a lot worse than getting him altho maybe a summer too soon

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

I would probably play Parker-Carrick-Lampard with loads of pace up the flanks and a lone frontman but that still doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

haven't seen enough of him lately tbh ronan. Isn't he worth a squad place anymore?

For an england manager to still possibly be juggling the scholes/gerrard/lampard cm problem after a decade is a srs fuckin indictment of the FA having paid any cunt a penny to actually manage in that time.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

fuck a carrick

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

last season's thread, Merdey - not sure this is necessary or dignified tbh

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

agree on sturridge fwiw, his hanging round chelsea should be heavily dependent on a few being shipped out this summer.

Double swoop for himself and lukaku wouldn't dismay me, and i'd also like a chocice while i'm dreaming

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

The Ox in apparently.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

lamps/gerrard/scholes never were good for england at the peak of their careers.. why would they be good now? bring back becks

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

good, now keep it going

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

is owen injured at the moment?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

not you ken

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

Are they not showing this on the BBC website?
Oh, it's at 2pm not 1pm. Never mind.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

and i'd also like a chocice while i'm dreaming

i missed the 'a' and assumed you were talking about some colombian prodigy i'd not noticed.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:04 (thirteen years ago)

Ox is good but very raw, and his decision-making is a bit random still. Definitely take him though, roll the dice and have a good time are my two tactical insights for this summer.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

no shouts for livermore, btw? has the discipline to anchor england someday imo

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

Nathan Wind as Chocice

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

a chocice piece of ass

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

Nathan Wind as Chocice

― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:06 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

HA

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

don't doubt woy might fill out the squad with oxes and cleverleys but it's only as random last 10 minute throws of the dice so whatever

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

there was a quote from Roy during the week about how he was going to bring "good players who haven't quite performed to expectations in previous tournaments". It's a new dawn alright

Number None, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

ffs downing in

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

Goalkeepers Hart, Green, Ruddy

Defenders Baines, Cahill, Cole, Johnson, Lescott, Terry, Jones

Midfielders Barry, Downing, Gerrard, Lampard, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Parker, Walcott, Young, Milner

Strikers Carroll, Defoe, Rooney, Welbeck

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

charles reep on dis ting

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

Come anticipate Roy Hodgson's three months in charge og England with me.

maybe lets move over now

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:20 (thirteen years ago)

hey guys

while you were doing that, i was getting a ticket for ire-spain for €80

sup

That is a lolshit squad btw, hodgson out

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

Good work there, was worried when you said you weren't bothered about actually going to the games.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

i'm not, tbh, i'm one of those savages that probably prefer watching on tv, be that at home or pub or at one of the fan villages.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:37 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/16/article-2145102-131B8CD3000005DC-567_468x343.jpg

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

Dalglish rumours gathering steam again, loads of newspaper journalists now reckon he's toast by the end of the day.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

Times Sport ‏ @TimesSport
We understand that Kenny Dalglish could leave Liverpool #lfc by the end of the day. More soon

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

Dan Roan ‏ @danroan
Dalglish has gone

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, henry winter just tweeted as much as well

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

And now the Beeb.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

Well, him going all day with Liverpool still not confirming or denying is a bit of a giveaway

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

looking forward to the Steve Bruce era now

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

Has Solbakken been sacked already?

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

wtf, just got in from town. convinced he was staying. sacked or resigned?

Chris, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

I'd be surprised if he'd resigned.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

5 Live report said he'd "left", so

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

It's just broken Chris, we don't know yet

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

thought you were talking about Liverpool for a second there

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

Has Solbakken been sacked already?

haha

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

fucking hell. convinced myself he was staying.

Chris, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

Solbakken was a quality return, can't front

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

btw apparently he went back to Norway with a DVD of all of our games from this season, assume when he takes up the job his first action will be to lay off the whole squad

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18073446

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

classic picture choice as usual

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

That picture!

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

i like dalglish well enough but he's no football manager in 2012

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

does this change woy's mind about the lfc eng players

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

was gonna say when Kenny told him Carroll was good did he say "i'd stake my career on it"??

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/60208000/jpg/_60208519_dalglishav.jpg

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

Mark Hughes has handed in his notice at QPR and declared his availability for the Liverpool job.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

that's a joke right?

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, but I love how you had to ask.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

i'm 50/50 on that being srs

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

Is O'Leary available?

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

Hoddle?

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

Aw fuck it. Come back Graeme.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

martinez by the sound of it.

Chris, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

wgs or mon to keep the celtic link

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

"Let's give a big Anfield welcome to"

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

Chris will know better, but will there actually be fan outrage over this? Or will it be excepted that results were dire and a sacking therefore more than justified?

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

Realistic view I'm guessing - love Kenny, but this plainly wasn't working.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i never believed the talk when he was appointed about how it'd be impossible to remove him etc. bad results quickly remove sentimentality, for the most part.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

Liverpool: Mark Lawrenson expects Kenny Dalglish to stay

^writing was on the wall when the bbc broke this story yesterday

jabba hands, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

At the meeting he delivered his end-of-season review and outlined his strategy for next season.

http://i.imgur.com/8MTXY.gif

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

was the strategy to spend another £100m?

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

xposts. i honestly can't tell rght now. maybe 50/50? i think the general feeling is sadness that it ended this way. no idea what i think right now, still in shock. for some reason i was really expecting him to be given another season with a new director of football and some changes to the coaching staff.

Chris, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

re strategy ,to have a bit more luck iirc
xp

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

really don't want martinez. that's never going to work out well.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

am i right in recalling that the death blow for rafa was stevie & carra had had enough of him and said so

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

that may have had something to do with it

Chris, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

isn't that what people say about big/loved/hated players whenever any manager leaves? eg every time chelsea change boss...

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i mean i can believe Abramovich might be over-cuddly with his dead-eyed golden boys but who the fuck is gonna take advice off Carra?

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

neither has played well since mind you

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

ya but chelsea bosses are never 2/1 to come back is my point

i'm no rater of martinez either but i can well imagine the empire of the kop forming a new cult around him

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

xposts. or it may not have.

poor roy, bet he was well looking forward to being the main man today with his big squad announcement.

Chris, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

i have no idea what Martinez might be capable of but i can see the Kop lynching him in effigy before his team's kicked a ball

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

martinez strikes me as the sort of manager who, if he stayed at wigan, would prob be sacked in a year or two mid-season or after relegation.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

now rumours ian ayre is gone

this is like the end of hamlet

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

like kenny in another two years if he'd stayed

Lfc as is are a conundrum atm

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

Martinez was on the brink much of last season, supposedly. I can't imagine FSG being swayed by an eight-game purple patch, nor by a couple of senior players. It's kind of unnerving to have dead-eyed pros at the helm, though in keeping with the lord/vassal ethos of the English game.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

martinez for wba, capello for lfc, rafa for the lolz

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

AND rumours david dein is running the club now.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

looking down the betting list the only one that's given me brief pause is jurgen klopp. progressive manager, probably reached as high as he can, that klinsi-style deutsche optimism americans like... bit fanciful but could work maybe? meh, maybe not

o'neill would probably be delighted with the squad he'd already have, unique selling point right there

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

it is imperative to have dead-eyed pros at the helm

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

haha urghhhh xp

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

Shankly hologram.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

stolen from my facebook?

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

Anyway farewell King Kenny. You were playing in the first match I ever saw. Then 29 years later I saw your Liverpool team. You did other stuff before, between and after, most of which was great. My heart's not really in this.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

sort of grimly amused that none of this can unseat "i hate my face" from top of the uk trends on twitter

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

i mean you'd think fsg would have already have someone in mind at least? seems foolhardy to throw away the time to plan kenny's immunity buys you

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

houllier was looking well the last day, and has at least been involved in title celebrations in the last while

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

Ronan: ha! No, hadn't seen that. Well, obv joke s'pose.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

this isn't as good as when rafa went

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

I suspect someone's been lined up for about six weeks, hence clearing the decks of Comolli before any transfer activity would be going on. Has Rafa been angling for anything recently?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

won't be rafa. i reckon it'll be martinez or rodgers.

Chris, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

you all know about the lfc documentary fox sports are filming btw?

Chris, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

The day's delay was for reaction shots, reverse angles, etc

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

fyi lpool -- stevie nichol is available XD

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

Martinez? Seriously? I know Wigan have pulled off a couple of miraculous escapes but nothing I'd imagine would convince the Liverpool board that he's the man to take Liverpool back into the CL. West Brom or Villa are better bets, he needs to show what he can do at a medium-sized club first.

I would wonder about O'Neill but surely he's not been at Sunderland for long enough for that.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

Poor old Fulop. His contract expired at West Brom, not really the last game you want to attract new suitors.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

Are LFC not a medium sized club?

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

who else would come though? guardiola?

Chris, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

I agree tho. Martinez would seem like a gamble to me.
There's a lot of managers btw Martinez level and Guardiola level surely.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

not many would take lfc

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

depends who else is advising them. david dein? anyone else? do they still want a director of football?

Chris, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

Nonsense, it's a big opportunity. It shouldn't be too difficult to improve them, and you've got a professional organisation at your back.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

Where's the David Dein thing come from?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

twitter and a couple of forums. hmm.

it is a big opportunity. i dunno. not thinking straight tbf.

Chris, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

i'm kidding. there's money, a following, the club's a huge name. Tbrr, you deserve a better manager than martinez or rafa.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

I've been meaning to ask for a while and now's as good a time as any - what on earth led Arsenal to go for Wenger in 1996? I know he'd done well at Monaco, but that was years previously.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

dein was a personal friend of wenger

also he hadnt exactly gone to pasture, he went to japan for the cash

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

maybe better qn would be why wenger went to the kicknrush provincial wasteland that was mid90s epl

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

when pundits trot out the "look at fergie, look at wenger, clubs need stability and to stick with their manager" spiel I always think of arsenal deciding to stick with rioch instead of going for wenger.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

how many examples are there where a club clearly should not have sacked the manager

not just cuz they then appointed a shit one, but where the sacking itself was demonstrably wrong

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

madrid / del bosque

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

valencia / sanchez flores

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

liverpool / rafa

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

the sycophantic coverage of blackburn makes out that sacking fat cunt was the problem, rather than the decision to appoint kean

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

Newcastle/Hughton makes a nonsense of this line of this train of thought

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

too many words in there

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

Ha, yeah. I was all "WTF" about that. Where do Newcastle think they should be? Deluded fools etc. Oops.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

I mean Pardew for G_d's sake.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

idk i think hughton would have done alright with cabaye ba ben arfa cisse

pardew is not a great manager

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkya0xtOVsQ

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

Pardew doing well doesn't mean it was right to sack Hughton, it just worked out well.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

if u insist pardew is amazing then remember they could have got him off the golf course the previous summer, not like he was scaring off ardent suitors with a five iron

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

that reflects on the clubs not pardew imo

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

it reflects on pardew that he wasnt even being sired by champo sides when he had the fortune to be picked up by nukey just before derek llambias turned into midas

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

Alan Shearer is "flattered" to be linked to the job by his agent.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

chrissy hughts has the permanent air of the caretaker, solid reliable knuckling down but no aspirational air to carry it off or blag that he knows how to solve it when things go wrong

pards is a pillock but by some flukey nukey serendipity the positive face of progress and better man for the job

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

bullshit theory ahoy but i think there's also perhaps a certain something - a je ne sais quoi, to quote the man - pards has in his character (and that glenn hoddle shares) which the french generally accept and respond to at face value but in britain gets you called a wanker right quick

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

aggressive yet gormless arrogance

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

"o'neill would probably be delighted with the squad he'd already have"

I thought that very thing earlier. And if Downing's crosses somehow start finding forwards who somehow narrow their aiming by 4 inches O'Neill would once again look like the genius man manager he was 12 games into his Sunderland reign.

I know it sounds stupid when you look at the table but Liverpool really aren't far away from being as good as Spurs. We know Downing has previous for actually assisting and scoring, Suarez and to a lesser extent Bellamy are excellent forwards, Carroll shouldn't be too difficult to groom into the flat track bully he should be. A couple of MON-style Bigs in there somewhere and you're set.

Oh, and sell Adam to Utd for his £10m corners.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

yeah dont see that at all

defence is abt the same but spurs midfield options are way better

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

carroll is just never not going to be a wasteman

even disregarding his technical shittiness, he is really slow over ten yards

he isn't even that well built for a sub-heskey

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:24 (thirteen years ago)

ah fuck it im going to have to make a thread abt this

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

and i thought the thread title was poignant when 8th was confirmed

Chris, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

lfc have a doughtier spine than spurs, for all our width

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

villas-boas heavily linked now. go for it fsg, imo.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

Intermediaries acting for the club have spoken with Andre Villas-Boas, but he is unlikely to get the job.

says bbc

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

was warming to the idea of avb myself, his truculence would obv be better appreciated there for a start

altho cheeky fiver on jogi low my instinct keeps telling me

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

he's gotta be one of the best likely candidates, but he's probably in vulnerable headspace right now i'm not sure that his therapist would be looking at the paranoiac goldfish bowl that is the lfc job and nodding happily.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

oh right... wonder is that from the club side. i didn't bother looking at beeb cos their breaking news is so crap but times and guardian seemed to suggest he was close.

xpost delighted to read they want someone with genuine league winning experience. martinez etc would just be more of the same.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

na i agree he's a good candidate, would be glad to see him get it

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

yeah but it'd be his paranoiac goldfish bowl this time is the thing

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

i don't reckon avb is the sort of guy to have taken a mental kicking from chelsea. it's chelsea. it hasn't worked out for mostly anyone.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

bbc report v different to other papers though, says martinez has a chance. fucking hope not.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

avb is on planet avb 24/7, of course not

yeah don't really trust the beeb either but a bold claim's a bold claim

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:13 (thirteen years ago)

interesting they say 30m is the new manager's budget. how the fuck did they shoot their load so badly on dalglish/comolli if it was going to leave them half skint from then on?

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:18 (thirteen years ago)

i read something somewhere that basically said that if you take the money recouped from player sales and money saved on wages into account then their net spend is less than a million. no idea how accurate that is.

Chris, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:30 (thirteen years ago)

30m isn't a small budget, assuming he can keep what he makes from selling uh kjyt or spearing

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:32 (thirteen years ago)

feeling better about this now. impression i get is that fsg want someone with a longterm vision who will truly buy into the academy/promote from within thing. that's what i hope anyway. if we're serious about ever challenging for the title again (not giving up hope just yet) and getting into the champions league and staying there then we have to be clever about how we go about it. i'm not an expert on the bundesliga but i believe dortmund did something similar?

anyway, sad that it ended like this for kenny, but perhaps it's for for the best. sounds cheesy but he really did unite the fans - waking up and finding out he'd come back was just magic. he won us a trophy and got us playing some lovely football, filled us all with real optimism. love ya kenny.

Chris, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:04 (thirteen years ago)

it seems that rafa, martinez and avb are not on the shortlist btw.

Chris, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:04 (thirteen years ago)

if your impression and your info on the shortlist are true that doesnt really leave many that fit the criteria

guardiola, rodgers, klopp, favre, de boer?

favre the realistic standout i guess from what i've heard but still a huge leap of faith

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:19 (thirteen years ago)

not sure john henry is ready to get sexted

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:22 (thirteen years ago)

rangnick too if he's not still knackered

this is from after hodgson left for whatever its worth:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/9337980.stmi

European scout Tor-Kristian Karlsen said on his Twitter feed that Borussia Dortmund manager Jurgen Klopp had been approached about the Liverpool job and that Rangnick was also a candidate.

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:26 (thirteen years ago)

cant help hearing ralf rangnick to the tune of rowche rumble

i could see henry even getting one of these cunts

not klopp tho

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:33 (thirteen years ago)

I've been meaning to ask for a while and now's as good a time as any - what on earth led Arsenal to go for Wenger in 1996? I know he'd done well at Monaco, but that was years previously.

― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:16 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dein was a personal friend of wenger

also he hadnt exactly gone to pasture, he went to japan for the cash

― navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:18 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maybe better qn would be why wenger went to the kicknrush provincial wasteland that was mid90s epl

― navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:19 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

when pundits trot out the "look at fergie, look at wenger, clubs need stability and to stick with their manager" spiel I always think of arsenal deciding to stick with rioch instead of going for wenger.

― pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:28 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

When something was obviously going wrong in France, Wenger was scouted by a ton of clubs - he nearly ended up at Spurs in 1994! But they went for Gerry Francis instead. David Dein also started being interested at the time but going through the Graham bung thing, didn't want to upset fans by going all foreign (lol) while Wenger wanted a holiday from European football after the Monaco*. They continued talking while Arsene went to Japan and Wenger knew his seat was just being warmed because Dein bought players for him - Rioch may have been there when it happened but Vieira and the first few French players were Wenger recommendations (he may have even tipped Dein off that Bergkamp was available, reports conflict.) It was a decision made two years before he came, basically. And he didn't come just two the dour football of before, but an underperforming team involving Bergkamp, Platt, Vieira and was immediately told he could sell off trouble-makers like Merson to fund Overmars/Petit etc.

*as well as the marseille match fixing scam, there were incidents like http://arsespeak.com/2011/02/21/can-wenger-win-champions-league-arsenal-understanding-arsene-europe-lens-as-monaco-vs-werder-bremen-cup-winners%E2%80%99-cup-final-1992/

feeling better about this now. impression i get is that fsg want someone with a longterm vision who will truly buy into the academy/promote from within thing. that's what i hope anyway. if we're serious about ever challenging for the title again (not giving up hope just yet) and getting into the champions league and staying there then we have to be clever about how we go about it. i'm not an expert on the bundesliga but i believe dortmund did something similar?

anyway, sad that it ended like this for kenny, but perhaps it's for for the best. sounds cheesy but he really did unite the fans - waking up and finding out he'd come back was just magic. he won us a trophy and got us playing some lovely football, filled us all with real optimism. love ya kenny.

― Chris, Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:04 (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Dortmund did do something similar. They could do it with no expectations for success hanging over their neck (having recently survived a bankruptcy scare, it was also their only option to start from the youth team) and not much in terms of league competition. Only an underperforming Bayern team. As a supporter of a team trying to do this in England, arguably five years ahead of Liverpool in terms of acting this way, I can say it will be absurdly hard work for this to happen at Liverpool. First, Arsenal fans aren't as passionate or hot-headed as the Kop. Mistakes - pretty big ones too - will be made, no matter how good the manager is, and the Kop will react. Secondly, you don't have Messi's to overcompensate for your Cuenca's. Third, it is just as likely that the team go through Boro's path as Dortmund's if that youth team is more Spearings and El Zhars. Just one Adam Johnson in the pack won't help an academy of Championship players.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 17 May 2012 06:34 (thirteen years ago)

I'm a little encouraged by the noises about what they're looking for - league-winning experience, plus readiness to carry out a project that has to be measured in many years - though it doesn't exactly throw out names. Klopp and Deschamps fit that; Villas Boas and de Boer probably don't.

Anyone else out there? Rijkaard's star has faded, Guardiola and Mourinho are obvious noes, Capello and Ancelotti are too old, the usual Dutch suspects like van Gaal and Advocaat too uninspiring.

I wonder if Deschamps is who they have in mind? He's bloody-minded enough certainly; but his teams lack a bit of stardust is my impression, and no idea how he is on youth development.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 06:54 (thirteen years ago)

Ancelotti's younger than I thought (52) but probably not young enough. He carries himself with that kind of authority, it fools you. Committed to another long project anyway.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 07:03 (thirteen years ago)

I also forget that Chelsea are supposedly looking in exactly the same market. I'd like to think Liverpool's the more attractive option for these guys, but that may not be so.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 07:29 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea > Liverpool. At least they has a talented young group to build around.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 17 May 2012 07:35 (thirteen years ago)

They've zero chance of getting Klopp imo. He wants a shot at the CL and a shot at a dynasty with this Dortmund team.

pandemic, Thursday, 17 May 2012 07:45 (thirteen years ago)

di matteo...

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 08:17 (thirteen years ago)

Dortmund did do something similar. They could do it with no expectations for success hanging over their neck (having recently survived a bankruptcy scare, it was also their only option to start from the youth team) and not much in terms of league competition. Only an underperforming Bayern team. As a supporter of a team trying to do this in England, arguably five years ahead of Liverpool in terms of acting this way, I can say it will be absurdly hard work for this to happen at Liverpool. First, Arsenal fans aren't as passionate or hot-headed as the Kop. Mistakes - pretty big ones too - will be made, no matter how good the manager is, and the Kop will react. Secondly, you don't have Messi's to overcompensate for your Cuenca's. Third, it is just as likely that the team go through Boro's path as Dortmund's if that youth team is more Spearings and El Zhars. Just one Adam Johnson in the pack won't help an academy of Championship players.

you really would commit suicide if this worked, presumably the vague moral high ground is all certain teams have.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 17 May 2012 08:19 (thirteen years ago)

i think the kop has more than demonstrated that it will cheer on ever stupider mistakes as long as they're being made by the right person.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 08:22 (thirteen years ago)

the word "mistake" could mean literally anything in a football context.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 17 May 2012 08:31 (thirteen years ago)

or nothing

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 17 May 2012 08:31 (thirteen years ago)

ya, v true

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 08:33 (thirteen years ago)

also i reckon lfc fans have pretty low expectations right now. a few crappy seasons in a row.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 17 May 2012 08:40 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno man, lowered expectations perhaps but i can't see them accepting another league season as weak as this one

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 May 2012 08:47 (thirteen years ago)

yeah perhaps... i think a strong 5th or 6th would prob be accepted tho. depending on how much dosh is spent/wasted by a new boss.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 17 May 2012 08:49 (thirteen years ago)

what they're looking for - league-winning experience, plus readiness to carry out a project that has to be measured in many years - though it doesn't exactly throw out names. Klopp and Deschamps fit that; Villas Boas and de Boer probably don't.

Wasn't that exactly what Villas Boas was supposed to bring to Chelsea? The feeling, before it all went seriously wrong, was that he would pull them through to the summer then clear out all the Old Guard TM and build a younger team for the long haul.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Thursday, 17 May 2012 08:51 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i don't think there'll be much assumption that a top 4 is there for the taking. but whoever comes in is gonna have to show progress reasonably sharpish.

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 May 2012 08:52 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think a strong 5th or 6th for Liverpool is too difficult a task for a decent manager. Assuming (possibly incorrectly) that Newcastle won't repeat this season that only leaves Everton to overhaul. I can't see anyonw from Fulham down making a serious case for the top six.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Thursday, 17 May 2012 08:54 (thirteen years ago)

i don't think there's much reason yet to assume that Newcastle or Everton will be weaker next season

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 May 2012 08:57 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think it's beyond Liverpool to improve enough turn these home draws into wins:
Sunderland 1-1, Norwich 1-1, Swansea 0-0, Stoke 0-0, Villa 1-1

That's 10 points dropped there that would have put them above Newcastle.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Thursday, 17 May 2012 08:58 (thirteen years ago)

fifth isn't achievable next year imo. sixth yes, but isn't that probably the bare minimum tbh? i'm not sure there's margin, placement-wise (tho there'll likely be a decent points gap, don't expect newcastle to show again)

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 08:59 (thirteen years ago)

5th/6th doesn't really matter other than to show enough of an improvement to justify replacing Kenny. The real aim for anyone spending Carroll level money is the Champs League and that would require too many other teams to fall off at the same time as a 10-14pt improvement from Liverpool. You really do need owners to accept it'll take 2-3 years and will still be really fucking difficult.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:04 (thirteen years ago)

chelsea won't finish outside the top 4 again, so a lot depends on spurs/arsenal's transfer window.

Utd are the only team i can see being easily dislodged from the cl spots.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:09 (thirteen years ago)

agree with most of onimo's points. a general sense of consistency would be a start, or sorting out the home form.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:15 (thirteen years ago)

There's next to nothing to choose between Arsenal, Spurs & Chelsea imo. I don't expect Newcastle to be at that level, nor Everton.

The question is therefore: can Liverpool get from the latter group into the former? I really don't think the jump is too big to make in one year - it feels lame to point it out, but an awful lot this year hinged on shots hitting the woodwork and being unable to make draws into wins. These are fine margins, I don't think it's projecting to say that even one single player, namely a dead-eyed finisher, could've yielded an extra dozen points or even more.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:20 (thirteen years ago)

Owen gone

PSOD (Ste), Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:22 (thirteen years ago)

RIP

pandemic, Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:25 (thirteen years ago)

The two obvious flaws in what I say are:

  • more likely that Arsenal, Chelsea and perhaps Spurs will all have much better seasons next year; possibly none of this year's performances would've been good enough for top four next; and
  • I don't think this year's Liverpool were in a trough all season; it's not inconceivable that everyone bar the forwards and Reina will be worse next season, especially if Lucas takes a long time to return.
Hence I think that on balance big changes are needed.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:25 (thirteen years ago)

That important goal will have to wait to next year. Talking of dead eyed finishers, I'm worried now IK.

pandemic, Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:26 (thirteen years ago)

Haha. He's only 32. So he's been at Utd since he was in his twenties!

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:27 (thirteen years ago)

awesome, looking forward to the summer 2012 edition of his brochure

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:28 (thirteen years ago)

"FACT: Michael Owen is a Grade B listed building with original neo-Georgian features, offering stunning views of Alderley Edge and close to local amenities"

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:29 (thirteen years ago)

"FACT: Timeshare opportunities in Michael Owen have never been more affordable"

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:32 (thirteen years ago)

IK, it is, in fact, pretty lame to point to the woodwork. Spurs have dominated teams all season without putting them to sword, and it's actually Arsenal's MO tbh, so idk that there's a dozen points waiting to be claimed there in any bish bosh boosh fashion.

Newcastle have an easier task in re-inforcing their squad than lfc have in somehow getting another twenty goals from their first team imo

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:34 (thirteen years ago)

huge chance of newcastle bombing next year imo.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:41 (thirteen years ago)

yes, a chance, but it's not that easy a call.

i don't suppose we should lock this thread til final whistle of the cl, seeing as that decides 'fourth spot'- but this is v much dependent on transfer window activity.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:44 (thirteen years ago)

Well yeah, but my point is just that there's low-hanging fruit there even without a massive overhaul - it's not like we've only just scraped 52 points or whatever it was. Fully accept the same holds true for the other sides except Newcastle. Even for Everton, conceivably, given how they took so long to get going.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:46 (thirteen years ago)

and now have a striker

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:47 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i think ik is largely saying liverpool underachieved, they should have done at least a little better, even with the probs in some areas of the team.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:50 (thirteen years ago)

Basically - though definitely not saying that squad can't do the same or worse, left to its own devices.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:53 (thirteen years ago)

more likely that Arsenal, Chelsea and perhaps Spurs will all have much better seasons next year; possibly none of this year's performances would've been good enough for top four next

70, 64 and 69pts respectively? 67.9pts is the average for 4th-placed finishers over the last ten seasons. Not sure anyone with 69-70pts has ever finished as low as 5th in the Prem era (certainly not in the top-four-into CL era). So, y'know, they weren't poor.

You'd hope Liverpool (and Everton, for that matter - add Jelavic to the first half of 11-12 and where do we finish?) would clock low-mid 60s minimum.
xxxp

Michael Jones, Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:56 (thirteen years ago)

city, utd, arsenal, spurs, chelsea- many fans of each of these clubs will feel they have underachieved

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:56 (thirteen years ago)

Tevez not sorry for Ferguson banner
last updated one minute ago

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:58 (thirteen years ago)

Mike, did you calculate that 67.9 figure yourself on the basis of research and making notes on a little pad?

the pinefox, Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:00 (thirteen years ago)

Owen for Everton
Dalglish for Villa
AVB for WBA
Di Matteo for LFC
Benitez for CFC

so many vacancies at the moment!

the pinefox, Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:01 (thirteen years ago)

Fair point Michael xps - they can certainly all play better, I'd argue, but it's easy to lose sight of how effectively Arsenal in particular turned it into cold hard points.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:02 (thirteen years ago)

Yep. It's a displacement activity on a stressful morning.

xxp

Michael Jones, Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:03 (thirteen years ago)

Tevez otm

"It seems like Ferguson is the president of England. Every time he speaks badly about a player or says terrible things about me, nobody says that he has to apologise. (But) when someone comes out with a joke or banter, you have to say sorry - but I don't say sorry."

Djibril Citté (onimo), Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:05 (thirteen years ago)

but I don't say sorry

I have noticed that tbf

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:07 (thirteen years ago)

Tevez is like de Niro's character in Mean Streets, except somehow totally reliable at his job.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:07 (thirteen years ago)

tevez otm

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:09 (thirteen years ago)

Ferguson = DD Disappointed Dunski

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:09 (thirteen years ago)

Don't see why Tevez should apologise to Ferguson... possibly think first about apologising to his own children for using them as a bargaining tool at the drop of a hat

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:11 (thirteen years ago)

It speaks badly of Argentine politics imo, that Tevez thinks that's how presidents are. Obama's presidency not noted for widespread contrition amongst critics.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:12 (thirteen years ago)

'The President of England'!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18093526

^
Lawro says: KD will not be fired

the pinefox, Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:12 (thirteen years ago)

It's quite refreshing how immediately dead wood is being cleared from clubs - McLeish, Owen and, less kindly, KD.

Is there anyone that Tottenham can lose? Amazingly, Bentley was named as being in the squad the other day. Get rid of his and Jenas's wages and it more than pays for Modric's pay rise.

the pinefox, Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:22 (thirteen years ago)

Is Dos Santos still there? Gomes?

pandemic, Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

It's quite refreshing how immediately dead wood is being cleared from clubs

Anti-Glaswegian bias, if you ask me

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:30 (thirteen years ago)

Gomes! Yes he was walking around the pitch at the lap of honour the other day, in a pullover and jacket - touching. But he probably needs to go (mes).

So do Bentley, Jenas, maybe Dos Santos (or can he still be an OK player?) - d-Mac, is that it?

the pinefox, Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

Is Pienaar still Spurs? Not that he's dead wood, nor Krancjar for that matter. But they seem like almost unused squad players. Tbh I think Spurs should utilize them more.

pandemic, Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:51 (thirteen years ago)

Pienaar went back to EFC.
Krancjar is a good player I would be sorry to lose.

http://eurorivals.net/squad/tottenham.html tells us:

TOTTENHAM SQUAD: GOALKEEPERS
•Heurelho Gomes•Carlo Cudicini•Brad Friedel•David Button•Jordan Archer

TOTTENHAM SQUAD: DEFENDERS
•Gareth Bale•Younes Kaboul•William Gallas•Michael Dawson•Ledley King•Kyle Walker•Benoit Assou-Ekotto•Ryan Nelsen•Bongani Khumalo•Kevin Stewart•Jack Barthram

TOTTENHAM SQUAD: MIDFIELDERS
•Tom Huddlestone•Aaron Lennon•Scott Parker•Rafael Van Der Vaart•Luka Modric•Giovani Dos Santos•Niko Kranjcar•Danny Rose•Jake Livermore•Sandro•Andros Townsend•David Bentley•Ryan Fredericks•Cristian Ceballos•Massimo Luongo•Jake Nicholson•Jesse Waller-Lassen•Dean Parrett

TOTTENHAM SQUAD: FORWARDS
•Emmanuel Adebayor•Louis Saha•Jermain Defoe•Cameron Lancaster•Alex Pritchard

the pinefox, Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:53 (thirteen years ago)

Saha, Nelson, Corluka, Khumalo and Bostock should probably all be looking for new clubs.

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:55 (thirteen years ago)

Pienaar is only on loan - I think he reverts to THFC on July 31st.

Looking at old Prem seasons on Wiki...

Amazingly Coventry City went all season without an away win but still managed to secure 14th place due to an impressive home record which saw them win 12 out of their 19 matches. Coventry also lifted the World Cup after defeating Brazil 6-0 in the final at McCain Stadium, Scarborough.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:56 (thirteen years ago)

* Gomes can go
* King is rumoured to be quitting, or it's said that he should
* who is Kumalo
* is Huddlestone good enough to keep, even if he gets fit?
* it is incredible that Bentley is still in the squad - big wages, wasting his life. Something must be done. (but where's Jenas?)
* we really are incredibly weak up front. Given that Adebayor isn't very reliable, and is leaving, we look totally toothless save Defoe's ability to finish chances.

- wait, was Corluka even on the list?
- Nelsen has only just arrived, HR will want to keep him.

the pinefox, Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:57 (thirteen years ago)

Corluka and Bostock have already gone

the pinefox, Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:57 (thirteen years ago)

Honestly, we don't really want Pienaar - he's good for you, not for us. Keep him. Oh, but give us £3m.

the pinefox, Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:58 (thirteen years ago)

Nelson and Saha might have just arrived but when your club launches a very public internal enquiry into why they bought you, three months after you arrive, you might want to look at other options.

Corluka's still listed as being on loan, as far as i can tell, but he's clearly not coming back.

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Thursday, 17 May 2012 11:01 (thirteen years ago)

Was it only last season that Spurs had 4 good strikers and the problem was picking the right pairing? (obviously dmac might have smthg to say about crouch=good)? Now if Ade goes it's Saha or Defoe? Blimey.

pandemic, Thursday, 17 May 2012 11:01 (thirteen years ago)

Also is it normal to have as many GKs as CFs?

pandemic, Thursday, 17 May 2012 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

lol at 'very public internal inquiry' - is that true? Is Harry on the hook for this?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

Also I see Euro-Rivals has broken the news that Walker and Ekotto have decided to swap first names. How comradery of them.

pandemic, Thursday, 17 May 2012 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

Oh. I can't read. Never mind. D'oh.

pandemic, Thursday, 17 May 2012 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

never heard about this inquiry

this squad doesn't look entirely balanced to me - strikers very weak. agree, it's not long since we had 'too many strikers' (but wouldn't play Keane).

the pinefox, Thursday, 17 May 2012 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

'inquiry' (one Express report?) really is comical idea - HR to investigate himself? a crack team brought in? bizarre.

the pinefox, Thursday, 17 May 2012 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/316252/Tottenham-transfer-flops-are-blamed-for-slump/-Tottenham-transfer-flops-are-blamed-for-slump-Tottenham-transfer-flops-are-blamed-for-slump-Tottenham-transfer-flops-are-blamed-for-slump

Spurs agreed to make Pienaar one of the highest earners at the club on £70,000 a week when they signed him from Everton in January 2011, but Redknapp barely played him before allowing him to return to Goodison Park on loan a year later

the pinefox, Thursday, 17 May 2012 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

madness

the pinefox, Thursday, 17 May 2012 11:24 (thirteen years ago)

Good URL!

Michael Jones, Thursday, 17 May 2012 11:24 (thirteen years ago)

oh, just as i'm busy ye start

On loan, iirc- kranjcar, pienaar, corluka, jenas, bassong. Keep first three imo, underutilised but well up to scratch

Not on loan, and deadwood/loseable- bentley, gomes, khumalo, dos santos.

'first team' to be let go- king, gallas

I believe huddlestone to be a quite exceptional talent, pf, and with parker over 30 i don't see any reason to worr over sandro, huddlestone and livermore as good to very good central options.

Youth to come in- naughton, caulker

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 11:34 (thirteen years ago)

nelsen can go, saha i'd keep, adebayor i'd make an offer for but not bank-breaking.

We very much need one of yr mythical '20 goal' strikers, a new first team centre half, and cover at left back and right wing (tho walker could be the latter)

Not a huge summer of activity, depending on who might wish to leave.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

Rose remains cover at LB?
Bentley in theory ought to be cover at RW. If he's not playing, then he has to go. In the name of god, go!

the pinefox, Thursday, 17 May 2012 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

rose could be shipped out, tbh, for all that he gets a game at lb it's not even close to a satisfactory solution- and he's probably a fair bit down the pecking order at lw, if bale, kranjcar, modric, pieenar, vdv are all at the club.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

two posts after this one and this becomes the longest thread on ilx

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

ok i want it to be this:

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:04 (thirteen years ago)

jol out

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:04 (thirteen years ago)

oh u cunt deems!

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

right, second time:

After City's first league title in 44 years Nasri told the French television channel TF1: "People at Arsenal tried to make out that I came here for the money. I hope they are watching me now, collecting my Premier League winner's medal. I believe they have not won a trophy for many years now.

"I made the hard choice to come and fight for my place at a big club, and I have proved it correct. I now hope the Arsenal fans can get on with their lives and forget me.

"If all that I was interested in was money, the easiest decision would have been to stay at Arsenal, picking up my money every week and walking into the team. There are many people doing this right now at Arsenal."

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

The higher you build your barriers
The taller I become
The farther you take my rights away
The faster I will run
You can deny me
You can decide to turn your face away
No matter, cos there's....

Something inside so strong
I know that I can make it
Tho' you're doing me wrong, so wrong
You thought that my pride was gone
Oh no, something inside so strong
Oh oh oh oh oh something inside so strong

The more you refuse to hear my voice
The louder I will sing
You hide behind walls of Jericho
Your lies will come tumbling
Deny my place in time
You squander wealth that's mine
My light will shine so brightly
It will blind you
Cos there's something inside so strong

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

lol YES!

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

two posts after this one and this becomes the longest thread on ilx

85% of it about Tottenham Hotspur. Crazy people.

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

perfect

Djibril Citté (onimo), Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

deems itt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujijaZHneJQ

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

can't view youtubes, but i'd like that to be tootling jody morris

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

something I've said before no doubt:

I know Europa League is very long and arduous - but I really think the THFC policy of playing reserves and being happy to be knocked out has not been good. OK you need to rotate, etc. But this is the 2nd biggest trophy in Europe - it's a huge thing to win (look at how eg Benitez and AVB profiles rose as result) - if THFC are as good as they make out, they should be going out to win the Europa League, seriously, whenever they're in it.

I say this cos it's quite likely we'll be it again next season.

the pinefox, Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

English clubs not taking Europa League seriously is sad but it has been a great competition this year without the Big English clubs 'avin' a go.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:20 (thirteen years ago)

if likely mean >50% chance, then what is quite likely?

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

Agree with every word, plus it's brilliant.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

i agree, tho i will say that i think the policy of blooding youngsters and giving squad players a run is useful, if used correctly.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

the lineup for next year's EL looks more like a classic uefa cup one

the group stage is still horribly distended though

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

yes, good way to use young players etc - and no reason they should be weak?
yes, it's too long, this is the problem (how did Fulham manage it?)
I think there's just an attitude problem - that it doesn't matter or is good to get knocked out - which is all wrong. I mean the World Cup involves a lot of games but you still try to win them all.

I feel that CFC are likely to win CL. Quite likely - 70%?

the pinefox, Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

pessimistic, pf, i don't make them favourites.

The youngsters and reserves are good enough to get you through the first few stages, those that do well should be in contention for less testing league games and further cup matches, fine- but travelling with a youth team to the quarters or needing a win to say i it (as redknapp has done) always puzzles me- fans think highly of the trophy ime, and a cup run is never bad news, and especially not with a squad our size with players needing experience and others crying out for games.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

Agree!! (except re CL final)

the pinefox, Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

Disappointed Dunski, love it

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

if spurs won the uefa no one, including spurs, would give a monkeys

it only becomes psuedo-well regarded if you happen to topple some already-fallen glamour giant considered above your station, spurs already think of themselves as atleti/bilbao/schalke level

for clubs with a nice big stadium it's a nice little earner on the side i spose but still chickenfeed in prem/cl terms

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

it would still be the pinnacle of harry redknapp's career

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

he will still think it's nothing compared to getting raked at the bernebeu

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

dont want to sound all david bernstein here but redknapp has ideas above his station

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

uefa > domestic cups

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

liar, you know you would take the fa cup over the uefa

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

Well, I wouldn't, but I'm not a Spurs fan.
Cl>>>>>EL>>>>FA>>>>CC as far as cups go

pandemic, Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

CL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>EL>>>>>>>>>FA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CC

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

Well yes but my fingers were tired

pandemic, Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

maybe it should be that way but p sure the clubs themselves put the el behind the cc in terms of their priorities.

Upt0eleven, Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

this is strictly about spurs and where they're at psychologically, i'm not saying every club would think the same

liverpool would treasure the uefa higher for instance

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

fa cup nowhere near a european trophy, sorry brits

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

think this attitude has lingered from the 07-09 period when english clubs were packing the cl semis every year and the europa league was seen as completely worthless

always worth remembering that italian clubs have won more european cups that english clubs have in the 21st century

english teams have won 1 out of 5 of the last finals that were an english club vs a foreign club

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

xp be your cosmopolitan idealism as it may i guarantee if we polled the general spurs fanbase i would be proved correct

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

In that case, do say Bilbao value EL>>>>CdR?

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

totally

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

maybe right now the CdR is a bit more prestigious because madrid and barcelona are so strong that any other club winning it would be a significant achievement

even so, europa league would be worth more, i doubt the bilbao players will be crying nearly as hard if barca schtup them 3-0 like atletico did

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

yeah totally

fa cup is probs unique among domestic cups in this regard where even now still there is residual resonance to winning it even as a bauble for big clubs with bigger fish to fry

i would guess the cdr is only a big deal for barca/real if they happen to have to overcome the other to win it

i must stress again i was talking specifically about spurs and their partic sitch, imo cup ranking resists generalisation generally

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

like for fulham winning the uefa would have had 5000 times the value of an fa cup

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

I would much rather win the FA Cup than the Europa League. The old UEFA Cup may have been a different kettle of fish, I remember when getting into that was still seen as an achievement.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

s'always seemed to me that the el is a massive hassle for all clubs until they accidentally find themselves in the latter stages of it.

maybe if it wasn't on a thursday and interfering with weekend game preparation?

Upt0eleven, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

how is playing thursday- sunday different than wednesday- saturday?

mizzell, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

isn't it in the premier league clubs' interest to take the europa seriously though in order to keep those uefa coefficients healthy? if the english clubs bomb out of europe early won't that affect the number of champions league and europa league places we get in the future?

Chris, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

xpost

I'm not sure playing on thursday is different, but in my head it makes the games feel a bit tacked on, coming at the end of the week when i've pretty much had my fill and am looking to the league again.

anyway, do all el teams play their weekend fixture on sunday? i've never paid that much attention.

Upt0eleven, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

there's the travel to consider for a start

oh yeah italian clubs are starting to think about coefficients now right? don't think the greater good matters until a club's personally deprived, society innit

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

A healthy co-efficient is of no use if you end up not qualifying for the EL the year after because your meagre squad ends up being so stretched fighting on two fronts. Prisoner's dilemma-ish I suppose. xp

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

the winner of the europa should get into the CL

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

The EL component of the coefficient must be pretty hefty because, despite recent English/Spanish domination in the CL, five different countries have won the coefficient race in the last five years, inc Portugal and Ukraine, who presumably wouldn't be getting a look-in otherwise.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

Winner of the CL into the EL imo, and not allowed back into the former until they win the latter. That'll keep them honest.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

Oh look, an injury setback for Wilshere.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

winner of el into cl, with the next league spot for that country being subsumed like what chelsea are gonna do to us

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

Argh: Wigan give permission for Liverpool to speak to Martinez. "He will be a difficult act to follow," he said.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

'he' being Dave Whelan

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 May 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

The first 'he' or the second 'he'? Or both?

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

Tevez otm

"It seems like Ferguson is the president of England. Every time he speaks badly about a player or says terrible things about me, nobody says that he has to apologise. (But) when someone comes out with a joke or banter, you have to say sorry - but I don't say sorry."

What has Ferguson said about Tevez?

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:30 (thirteen years ago)

so martinez is on the list! oh the newxt few weeks are going to be fun.

Chris, Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

I swear Dave Whelan has been talking Marti into this job for weeks. I don't want him anywhere near it, they're borderline relegated every year.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

"You cannot just go away and forget about a huge commitment he has made and what he [Rodgers] has done for Swansea," said Desailly. "You have to cross your fingers, but technically if Liverpool ask him, he will go. You cannot keep him.

"The potential is there in Swansea and it's a shame to leave your baby on the street. He should hand it to somebody who will look after him before he moves on."

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

solskjaer to villa?

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

Europa League vs FA Cup talk seems unnecessary to me

I'd like Spurs to win either

what I was saying is: the EL is a very big competition and would be a big deal to win, and we should try seriously to win it, not treat it as a laughable distraction.

the pinefox, Friday, 18 May 2012 00:32 (thirteen years ago)

will never understand why they dont allow the winners to go straight into champions league, every single team would take it seriously then.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 18 May 2012 00:47 (thirteen years ago)

its kind of an integrity thing -- winners of a cup have to defend it

same reason the cl winners rightly get a chance to defend it even if they fail to qualify in the league, and even if liverpool 2k5 and (heaven forfend) chelsea 2k12 scarcely deserve it

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 01:24 (thirteen years ago)

prob with this thread during the afternoon is that nobody sleeps at a decent hour imo

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Friday, 18 May 2012 01:28 (thirteen years ago)

epl 24/7 the drama never stops in the best league in the world

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 01:32 (thirteen years ago)

right now at a taxi rank in newcastle, sylvain marveaux and hatem ben arfa are arguing with a romanian dude

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 01:33 (thirteen years ago)

in a west kensington alleyway, two <redacted> youth teamers are propositioning <redacted> about <redacted>

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 01:34 (thirteen years ago)

meanwhile in cheshire little michael owen has been tucked up in bed by his governess and is dreaming about scoring a goal for england in the world cup final

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 01:35 (thirteen years ago)

tomorrow after breakfast he will colour in his new brochure

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Friday, 18 May 2012 01:38 (thirteen years ago)

who had the better career owen or fowler

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Friday, 18 May 2012 01:39 (thirteen years ago)

idk i like martinez and i hope he does well at liverpool

are we gonna have a summer thread? or three (off-season/euros/olympics)?

a hoy hoy, Friday, 18 May 2012 06:13 (thirteen years ago)

eh just two i'd say mehlympics

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Friday, 18 May 2012 06:20 (thirteen years ago)

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8799/picture1ma.png

Is there any need to put it like this, now?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 06:46 (thirteen years ago)

who had the better career owen or fowler?

Good question. I think comparing their brief peaks when they were really good, Fowler was better. But Owen was good for longer and did more for England. And comparing post-peaks, Owen's underwhelming Madrid/Newcastle/Man Utd spells were arguably better than Fowler's time at Leeds/City/wherever the fuck he ended up.

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 18 May 2012 07:34 (thirteen years ago)

Does anyone think Suarez will probably be the next one for the chop?

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 18 May 2012 07:50 (thirteen years ago)

That would be insane. I'd be surprised if leaving hasn't crossed his own mind though.

Fowler's record post-Liverpool is surprisingly good, at Man City especially. Owen had a pretty decent return with Madrid.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 07:58 (thirteen years ago)

xp Are the Olympics really regarded as meh? Surely a player would rather win an Olympic gold than a Carling Cup?

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Friday, 18 May 2012 08:23 (thirteen years ago)

Heard Whelan on the radio this morning saying he wouldn't stand in the way of Martinez going to "Liverpool, or a big club".

When, if ever, etc...

ailsa, Friday, 18 May 2012 08:40 (thirteen years ago)

He will not shut up, that guy.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 08:44 (thirteen years ago)

That would be insane

I'm not suggesting he would just get sacked. Obviously they want to pick up £15-£20M and then reinvest it in the team. There would probably be a shitstorm from the fans if they just announced he was being sold, so they'd have to have a replacement already lined up. They would probably also want the new manager installed first and let him identify the replacement. But I wouldn't be surprised if he went at some point this summer.

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 18 May 2012 08:54 (thirteen years ago)

I meant it'd be insane not to keep him. He's the one top-class player we have now, pending Lucas and Reina returning to form. It would be such an admission of defeat to sell him, even if a bid came in at double that amount.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 08:58 (thirteen years ago)

woop woop: Brendan Rodgers turns down interview for Liverpool manager's job...

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 09:07 (thirteen years ago)

Some managers don't realise when their star might be at its highest. If Rodgers ends up fighting relegation next season his "they play great football" pats on the head will dissipate and he'll be back in the Holloway bracket.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Friday, 18 May 2012 09:14 (thirteen years ago)

Owen and Fowler had a similar strike rate at Liverpool over a similar span of time (about eight seasons in the first team), but Robbie is far more revered, right? Post-Liverpool, Owen has only played 138 games in eight seasons, scoring 44 goals; Fowler didn't play all that much more football in the eight seasons after he left L'pool either - 156 games*, 46 goals. (* - incl that spell back at Anfield, stopping short of his Aussie twilight years).

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 May 2012 09:17 (thirteen years ago)

Rogers has shown he can organise a defence though, at home at any rate. A lot of "can play a bit" promoted sides can't - see West Brom at any given season up until Woy.

All these guys need at least another club under their belts in between taking on a job like Liverpool. Doing something great at a team like Villa first would be a better stepping stone.

Would love to see Solskjaer managing in the Premiership but being thrown straight into it would probably be a bad idea at this point.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 18 May 2012 09:21 (thirteen years ago)

Amazed that Fowler has played more. Poor Mikey. Also, any idea how many of Owen's post-Liverpool appearances have been starts?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 09:22 (thirteen years ago)

was gonna say his madrid strike rate was a lot better than 'pretty decent'

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Friday, 18 May 2012 09:30 (thirteen years ago)

suarez is great but it's such a time of flux it's hard to say what would be a disaster or not. apart from martinez.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 18 May 2012 09:31 (thirteen years ago)

fowler was way better than owen btw. so much more skilled.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 18 May 2012 09:32 (thirteen years ago)

Would love to see Solskjaer managing in the Premiership but being thrown straight into it would probably be a bad idea at this point.

Yeah, especially as managing Villa is a bit of a thankless task at the moment.

Owen and Fowler had a similar strike rate at Liverpool over a similar span of time

But both were past their peak a while before they left. For the 2-3 years when each of them were at their best, Fowler was more impressive - wasn't he? I seem to remember a season when Fowler, Cole & Shearer were all banging in a tonne of goals - I don't recall Owen ever being *that* prolific (like, he might have got 20 but not 30?).

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 18 May 2012 09:34 (thirteen years ago)

owen won more in probably a worse team, but was a bit one-trick- nerveless speedster. Fowler had amazing talent, i'm still discovering classic goals he scored on highlights reels and premiership years etc.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Friday, 18 May 2012 09:41 (thirteen years ago)

i don't think suarez is the player lfc need (hard to put my finger on it tbh), but i don't think 15m is enough for him either.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Friday, 18 May 2012 09:42 (thirteen years ago)

fowler was way better than owen btw. so much more skilled.

Different class altogether. In a few years, Owen will be just be some guy who scored a lot of goals, like Les Ferdinand or Bob Latchford or som'b'dy.

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 18 May 2012 09:45 (thirteen years ago)

How very dare you.

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 May 2012 09:48 (thirteen years ago)

and fowler will just be another outrageously talented fuckwit, tbf, peaked at 23 and was p much done by 25/6?

Neither of them are going down in history tbh

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Friday, 18 May 2012 09:49 (thirteen years ago)

fowler had such a range of goals, owen was figured out, to an extent, as the years went on. fowler was great in the air, fiendish shot, could score with both feet. so weird how england were so bloated with amazing strikers in that era that he barely got a look in, some of the 6th/7th choices back then would waltz into the team today.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 18 May 2012 09:49 (thirteen years ago)

Fowler will... in Liverpool... admittedly not that difficult (xp)

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 18 May 2012 09:50 (thirteen years ago)

Remember when Owen booted Ronny Johnsen in the air at Old Trafford? That seems souncharacteristic now, and even at the time.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 09:53 (thirteen years ago)

still think it's mad that owen is only 6 months older than me

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 18 May 2012 09:55 (thirteen years ago)

and i'm not going to be retiring for another 38 years

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 18 May 2012 09:55 (thirteen years ago)

some of the 6th/7th choices back then would waltz into the team today

Yeah it's weird ... there was such dissatisfaction with Fowler or Cole too. 'Unable to play at the top level' and so forth. I like Houellebecq, but him looking like a virtually automatic pick is a bit concerning.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 09:57 (thirteen years ago)

and you have even more poker debts

xp

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 18 May 2012 09:58 (thirteen years ago)

At least Andre Villas Boas is older than you.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 09:58 (thirteen years ago)

I know I'm not in any position to comment, but a list of England centre forwards of the past 15 years would make amusing reading

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 18 May 2012 09:59 (thirteen years ago)

^ please poll this

Then we can poll the Scottish ones for an entire thread of "ffs, Iwelumo" shouty caps lock.

ailsa, Friday, 18 May 2012 10:02 (thirteen years ago)

tbf tho I think Jay Bothroyd was only a substitute

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 18 May 2012 10:04 (thirteen years ago)

England strikers 1997-2012

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 18 May 2012 10:05 (thirteen years ago)

Nugent wins for best goal.

pandemic, Friday, 18 May 2012 10:12 (thirteen years ago)

I like Houellebecq, but him looking like a virtually automatic pick is a bit concerning.

Sturridge has not gone to Euro 2012. But seriously, what happened to him in the latter part of the season? I haven't been paying attention.

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 18 May 2012 10:17 (thirteen years ago)

Killed a pigeon on the way in.

xp

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 May 2012 10:18 (thirteen years ago)

Sturridge had 3 goals since Jan iirc. And NEVER passes the fucking ball.

pandemic, Friday, 18 May 2012 10:19 (thirteen years ago)

Never bought into the hype anyway

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 18 May 2012 10:23 (thirteen years ago)

is he still at city?

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 18 May 2012 10:32 (thirteen years ago)

Pigeon?

the pinefox, Friday, 18 May 2012 10:57 (thirteen years ago)

Sturridge had 3 goals since Jan iirc. And NEVER passes the fucking ball.

― pandemic, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:19 (43 minutes ago) Bookmark

what's defoe like at passing? oh yeah wait it's completely irrelevant.

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

fowler certainly more talented than owen, owen a ~marginally~ more effective (unplayable) weapon although strikerates comparable

what i like about the question is the legacy factor - owen despite being european footballer of the year ffs will always be a joke now whereas fowler was and remains folkloric - certainly going by my (londoner) childhood he created a generation of new liverpool fans who still have him down as fave ever player

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:13 (thirteen years ago)

Different class altogether. In a few years, Owen will be just be some guy who scored a lot of goals, like Les Ferdinand or Bob Latchford or som'b'dy.

― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 18 May 2012 10:45 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

How very dare you.

― Michael Jones, Friday, 18 May 2012 10:48 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

x 2

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

sir les was way better than drogba grumble grumble

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

I feel bad for Owen because I always liked him, but he's such an easy target for some reason. He always gives the impression of being incredibly slow-witted. I'm trying to imagine going for a few drinks with him, and failing. I bet Fowler'd be more fun.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

xpost any excuse to watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsFX2a626OE

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 18 May 2012 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

i wonder what owen's career would be like now if rafa hadnt refused him after madrid (and if he hadnt had the wc injury obv)

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

It's quite sad reading him say in a recent interview that his best years were his teens, and he's been operating on 2/3rds power ever since because of a botched hamstring operation.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:21 (thirteen years ago)

lol crooksy goes for the black striker every single time no matter what, if it was a little finish he'd have said ian wright darren bent

otm there though

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:23 (thirteen years ago)

Sturridge had 3 goals since Jan iirc. And NEVER passes the fucking ball.

― pandemic, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:19 (43 minutes ago) Bookmark

what's defoe like at passing? oh yeah wait it's completely irrelevant.

― r|t|c, Friday, May 18, 2012 11:04 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Bollocks!
Sturridge plays on the right most of the time. Knowing when to pass the ball pretty important imo.

pandemic, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:23 (thirteen years ago)

once again, he is a pure striker plonked out on the wing

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:25 (thirteen years ago)

I have a book of all Tottenham players and the Crooksy entry begins by recalling that someone called him "BLACK MAGIC IN THE BOX".

the pinefox, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:27 (thirteen years ago)

Fjortoft, however, does have his doubts about Solskjaer accepting the job as he said: "Not sure Solskjaer will go for this. Champions League with Molde and always one who likes to end what he is starting. But hey! It's Premier League."

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

Martin Tyler should adopt the last four words as his new catchphrase

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

Peak period Fowler, Shearer, Sheringham, Ferdinand, Owen, Cole, even fucking Ian Wright would be able to walk straight into the current first XI without even being particularly challenged. Every single one of them. Chris Sutton in his Norwich or Blackburn days probably wouldn't have much trouble either.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 18 May 2012 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

Collymore

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

Owen, lost pace or not, basically shanked his own career by being too lazy/egotistical to go to a club where he cd've played regularly. fuck the self-regarding cunt imo.

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 May 2012 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

He went to Newcastle and was shite.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 18 May 2012 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

Did Owen and Shearer ever play together at Newcastle? Shearer's presence was supposed to be the big persuasive factor but I don't think they did.

the pinefox, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

it kinda seems that way, but: fag-end houllier liverpool were the pits and then madrid come calling, what you gonna do? and then newcastle he didnt have a single other option

united was a cunt's move tho yes

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

Celtic next, according to various Internet crackpots.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Friday, 18 May 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

I enjoyed his quote that the Championship wasn't really an option

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:47 (thirteen years ago)

i was thinking specifically of the United move tbh, he was crocked a lot at Newcastle wasn't he?

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 May 2012 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

oh hang on, not according to his brochure

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 May 2012 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (18000 of them)

I think we need a closed season thread title discussion round about now.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Friday, 18 May 2012 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

"The Championship is not an option"

?

Djibril Citté (onimo), Friday, 18 May 2012 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

owen said that

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 18 May 2012 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

He played loads at Newcastle, especially in the last couple of years, he just wasn't very good. I doubt he exactly got much service in that team but still.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 18 May 2012 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

xp i know - it was a thread title suggestion

Djibril Citté (onimo), Friday, 18 May 2012 11:51 (thirteen years ago)

Owen scored 1-in-3 in the two Newcastle seasons he played a decent number of games in. Round about what you'd expect from a slightly-past-his-prime player in a shite team.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Friday, 18 May 2012 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

Yup, that'll do nicely.

Need to wait 'til the 4th CL spot is sewn up though.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

but it's not really about whether he was much cop or not, the point is after Newcastle he cd've gone to a club that wd've more or less guaranteed him a first team start, but he decided he'd rather warm a bench at Old Trafford and chat gee-gees with sralex

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 May 2012 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

Are you quoting directly from the brochure now?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

that shd go in the new one, yes

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 May 2012 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

his total is 30 in 79 over four seasons so a decent return when he was fit

lol IK I was just thinking that :)

Djibril Citté (onimo), Friday, 18 May 2012 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

owen would barely have been a guaranteed starter anywhere after newcastle, he was done in even then

iirc it was between hull and ynahtid, and crap teams like hull play 4-5-1 so often these days that he'd have been a sub to daniel cousin or marlon king or someone half the time

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

"You won't believe it Arsene but this pen's run out too"

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

No one else would have paid Owen's wages, and he'd have demanded them to go to a team he considered beneath him. At United he's basically on a pay-as-you-play as far as I know, so it's a risk-free call for them.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 18 May 2012 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

'ILF precovers the Michael Owen brochure' would be incredible, if I had any faith we wouldn't actually get closed down this time.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

"If Robin decides to leave, that means maybe next year it will be Walcott and the next year maybe it will be Wilshere."

gotta say i'm loving paddy vieira these days

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

whilst i accept the logic of the counter-arguments, i will be sticking with my "Michael Owen is a cunt" perspective

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

vieira is a cunt for that

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

It'd be pretty low of Wilshere to leave just as he's returning to fitness

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

"It will be as difficult as when they lost Fabregas or Nasri," said Vieira. "Then you knew that Robin was behind. If they lose Robin, who is behind? Of course it is going to be difficult to keep or to convince Robin.

"It was a shock for them to lose Nasri and Fabregas and if they lose Van Persie, it will be a drama. If Robin decides to leave, that means maybe next year it will be Walcott and the next year maybe it will be Wilshere. It will be difficult for Arsenal to keep all their top players. But if they keep Robin, they will send out a positive message to all the clubs around them."

With that in mind, Vieira, a former Arsenal captain, is surprised that his old club have not already resolved Van Persie's future. Last summer, Arsenal's plans in the transfer market were disrupted by holding on to Fabregas and Nasri for as long as possible, which played a major part in their shambolic start to the season.

"I think that is something they should have closed a long time ago but Arsenal don't need me to tell them that," Vieira added. "It is really difficult to find a player with the quality of Van Persie with one year left on his contract, so it is difficult to understand."

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:04 (thirteen years ago)

Telling Arsenal what they don't need to be told

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:04 (thirteen years ago)

no closure of this thread til spurs get closure on cl spot.

Sutton at norwich would make england team? Then why not current norwich form striker?

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

If Robin decides to leave, that means maybe next year it will be Walcott and the next year maybe it will be Wilshere.

Can't see City wanting all of them.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

no closure of this thread til spurs get closure on cl spot.

― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac),

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:08 (thirteen years ago)

just can't believe he'd put a dampener on the third place celebrations like that

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:08 (thirteen years ago)

wenger doesnt seem to get due respect from his ex-players sometimes

the 90s defender cunts are the same

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

never understood them, tho? wanted the headers, the scrappers, the tacklers out and never replaced them like-for-like

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

why not Sutton on Celtic form? He was pretty damn great then.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

Last year he was signing his book in Hamilton town centre. When i walked pass him there was a fair old queue.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

mmmm yeah he replaced them with cole, touré, campbell, lauren

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:17 (thirteen years ago)

who were just as scrappy etc but more athletic

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:17 (thirteen years ago)

campbell was also way better than adams ever was but he isnt white or an ex alkie or a failed manager or a bantuh ledge or any of the other categories that endear the press to former players

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

also a manky cunt, also don't recall adams leaving on a free to us at his peak nor asking to be taken off during a mare (a pubby?)

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

so apparently the only player in the Wolves squad without a relegation pay-cut clause is...Roger Johnson. kudos.

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

roger johnson has passion tho

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

and he abhors nonsense

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

Nice work Rog, you've made my Rotter Of The Year list.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

why would critical former players respect wenger if the values of the winning teams they played for are not the values of the current losing incarnations

in any case they rarely go so far as to say they want him out, it's always "wenger's still the best but..."

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

campbell's also been known to put the boot in fyi

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

vieira isnt offering unsolicited advice about actual football, he is telling a club run for profit how to negotiate its contracts from the perspective of a club which makes huge losses

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:39 (thirteen years ago)

like a. cole puts the phone in?

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

was reading 'soccernomics' at work this morning, they posit that's it's stupid to run a football club for profit.

pandemic, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

also intrigued to hear that sol campbell might not be whiter than white

still, he was good at football

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

nsfw or anything else

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/18/article-2146291-132853CD000005DC-379_634x422.jpg

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

vieira isnt offering unsolicited advice about actual football, he is telling a club run for profit how to negotiate its contracts from the perspective of a club which makes huge losses

― navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 13:39 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

well pat's got a job to do now hasnt he

you might even say he's approaching it with an indulged mercilessness befitting wenger's best sides

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

i more meant campbell putting the media boot into wenger rather than his on-pitch fun btw

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

that will have been understood

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

martin samuel is literally unplayable today btw

Shane Warne was unplayable; Muttiah Muralitharan was unplayable; the West Indies fast bowling attack of the Seventies was unplayable. One man, armed only with a cricket bat, could not repel them. A football team have 11 on the pitch, however, and no equivalent of a terror track or sticky wicket. There are ways and means of stopping even the greatest talent. Man-for-man marking, doubling up, cutting the supply line; particularly in the Champions League this season, Chelsea's defence have proved that even the greatest can be frustrated by a combination of raw determination, doggedness and good tactical thought. Yet Drogba is different.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2146013/Didier-Drogba-The-Chelsea-striker-unplayable.html

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

Well considering he's likely to be up against a midfielder 'cos Bayern have run out of CBs, he might be right.

pandemic, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

Mad Jens reckons the Drog would have struggled against Badstuber cos he hates playing against left footed CBs

pandemic, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

Having seen Badstuber's performance last Saturday I'm not so sure.

pandemic, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

what is lehmann's reasoning exactly?

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

I believe he thinks that Drogba is only really happy going to his right. It wasn't really any more nuanced than that tbh.

pandemic, Friday, 18 May 2012 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

that only works if the defender is facing him, rather in badstuber's case chasing after him because he misjudged another chelsea long ball

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

Drogba's got this unquestioned reputation as a big game player, which isn't entirely undeserved but all I can remember is him sulking off at the last Champions League final, and then hilariously shanking his penalty at the ACN

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

http://maxgif.com/3Zr
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r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

Anyone else eagerly anticipating the ferocious bidding war for Theo Walcott?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 18 May 2012 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

Lol, was gonna say.

pandemic, Friday, 18 May 2012 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

oh yeah, i did mean to say the arsenal pecking order is prob rvp ----------------------------------------------- injury prone vermaelen --------------- song cant wont tackle ---------------ah fuckit take the rest

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Friday, 18 May 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

Chris Sutton in his Norwich or Blackburn days probably wouldn't have much trouble either.

He was twice as good at Celtic, fwiw

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 18 May 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

GRANT HOLT HAS PUT IN A TRANSFER REQUEST

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 18 May 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/stoke/content/images/2009/07/22/grad_pulis_470x315.jpg

HE'S READY.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 18 May 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

lol the fat deluded cunt

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

once you put a hat on him, tony pulis will be happy

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 18 May 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

Where does he think he is gonna go? Is this Spurs' replacement for Ade?

pandemic, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

Rangers put in a bid for him last year *stifles giggles*

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 18 May 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

Haha, 24 hours ago he's hard done by not struttin' with the European elite; now this. How quickly the worm turns.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

Ah, Norwich have rejected his transfer request. Are we sure LFc haven't approached him for a player-manager role?

pandemic, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

either he's playing hardball on a new contract, some mentalist has tapped him up, or he's got himself a job doing quality control at the ginsters factory

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

i'm sticking with your og post

lol the fat deluded cunt

― r|t|c, Friday, May 18, 2012 3:50 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pandemic, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

tho "some mentalist has tapped him up" is just about within the realms of possibility

pandemic, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

he's moving to anfield as player manager

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 18 May 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

shame kenny's gone now, he'd have been right in there

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

Anyone want to have a crack at a current Premiership oafish XI? I mean aside from Carroll and Holt upfront obviously.

(NB Holt has 11 more Prem goals than Carroll this season)

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 18 May 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

off topic, but did defoe really score more league goals than he had league starts this season?

pandemic, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

"A controversial figure in France, with Dijon on the brink of relegation, Renaud is closely associated with Dijon coach Patrice Carteron, but is always available to nurse Drogba using special massage techniques designed to increase circulation and lymphatic drainage while stimulating the stretch reflex of muscles.

This is a form of fasciatherapy known as myofascial release"

HJ?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 18 May 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

on topic both paul robinson's would make the oafish 11 surely.

pandemic, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

sounds like kagawa's in the bag:

"I am sad that Kagawa will be leaving this summer. Dortmund will lose a player with outstanding technique," Grosskreutz confessed to Sport Bild.

"Nevertheless, every footballer wants to play in the English Premier League at some point and Kagawa must seize this chance.

"We had great times together, both on and off the pitch. We'll keep in contact and who knows - I'm a big fan of England and could join him playing there too one day."

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

Presumably Man U. I hate it when Utd sign players I actually like cf Cantona, Park, Veron. Luckily they don't do it too often.

pandemic, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

off topic, but did defoe really score more league goals than he had league starts this season?

― pandemic, Friday, May 18, 2012 12:07 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

11 goals 11 starts 14 sub appearances

this is why i think he's good for the england squad

mizzell, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

oh yeah united no question

looks like a great signing to me, how much of an impact do u see him making pandemic?

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

haha:

The 75-year-old said he would not stand in Martinez's way if the Spaniard was to receive an irresistible offer but doubted the attraction of the Liverpool job.

"The club have great supporters, but the place is a morgue, a desolate place, without heart; all I can say is what a shame for their supporters," Whelan told ESPN.

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

Bolton oaf Robinson is: a) no longer a prem player; and b) no longer a Bolton player. Released this morning along with some other no-marks and Klasnic.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

Defoe's been really sharp all season, just hasn't fitted the system we play as a starter, although he should have been starting over Saha.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 18 May 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

i don't think kagawa is the player united need, he plays too far forward, basically in rooney's position.

mizzell, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

big grant hanley a must for the oaf xi

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

I'll sing Holt's praises any day, for what he has achieved at Norwich the last couple of season, but I don't know who would be interested in signing an ageing, overweight striker with 9 months of premier league experience, other that a side just coming up, or just gone down.

CraigG, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

I think Kagawa is good enough that he'll definitely improve Utd, but as mizzell says the position he's been playing for Dortmund doesn't really exist for Utd unless Rooney plays as a #9. Utd predominantly play with 2 out and out wingers I think, I may be wrong, so other than CF that leaves one position available. I assume Welbeck/Rooney will partner up quite a bit so Kagawa may end up being an option rather than a vital component. I know he's at a totally different stage of his career but I hope it doesn't end up like a Littmanen at LFC deal where the player is obviously good enough but the manager can never see a way of fitting him in.
xp

pandemic, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

utd should try to get whatever is left of nuri sahin, that's a single player who could really improve them

mizzell, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

i guess sahin would be the replacement for deep-lying old scholes and kaggie the new nippy young forward scholes

valencia-kagawa-carrick-nani would certainly be a fun return to the late 90s headless chicken days

r|t|c, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

Klasnic better than given credit for. Maybe some sort of relegation clause.

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Friday, 18 May 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

if you give Klasnic that somewhat charitable Defoe 'goals / start' stat he's 20 in 28 for Bolton, not bad.

boxall, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

Klasnic explicitly excluded from no-mark category fyi, that post was impeccably drafted.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

idk im sure i spend more time hating on shitty english football ppl/culture but grant holt is not some carrollingian oaf, steve morison is norwich's lump #9

his movement, reading of the game is very good and his technique surprisingly sound

and why the fuck shouldnt he chase maybe the only lucrative contract he will ever sign? he could probably get 2 yrs at £30k pw out of someone now

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

I hope it's us tapping him up, and our plan for next season is him and Rickie up front as the least mobile front line in Prem history. Nigel rolling up with that at the Britannia next season, all "There's a quote from Kierkegaard that says SEE YOU AND RAISE YOU MOTHERFUCKER"

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

im surprised by how he isn't all that slow, certainly quicker than a 31 yr old viduka or berbatov

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

finally getting around to last weeks motd and wtf the stoke goal? banging into a keeper WHO HAS THE BALL IN HIS HANDS is fine now?

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 19 May 2012 10:16 (thirteen years ago)

ok this whole game is a joke

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 19 May 2012 10:17 (thirteen years ago)

I haven't watched motd yet. No spoilers please.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 May 2012 10:24 (thirteen years ago)

a joke indeed, if clint hill hadnt have been robbed of his goal bolton would already have been down by then

r|t|c, Saturday, 19 May 2012 10:28 (thirteen years ago)

not that that shameless bitch owen "decisions have cost us" coyle could remember that far back of course

r|t|c, Saturday, 19 May 2012 10:30 (thirteen years ago)

kicking a man when he's down, I like it

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 May 2012 10:34 (thirteen years ago)

ay i gave it a week's grace, lets have some credit

r|t|c, Saturday, 19 May 2012 10:38 (thirteen years ago)

swygart give us the lowdown on saints' to-do list this summer please

r|t|c, Saturday, 19 May 2012 10:42 (thirteen years ago)

xpoat Sadly, Clint's "goal" came from a corner that should never have been given. I find it hard to get worked up about that one.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Saturday, 19 May 2012 12:08 (thirteen years ago)

Ooh, lessee... well, we released Bialkowski today so we need another keeper to give Kelvin competition at the very least (we'd still have needed that even if we'd kept Bialkowski, tho). Not convinced about our full-backs. Another centre-back would be good. Possibly one more striker, though our current options are probably about as good as Norwich's were last season. In fact, yeah, we're probably looking about as good as Norwich did last year. And Adkins has been very solid in the transfer market thus far. We'll probably be in the relegation scrap, but I think a few decent purchases should see us safe.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 19 May 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, and Solskjaer's officially not interested in the Villa job anymore.

Tony Mowbray's fifth favourite for the West Brom job. Suspect that's not a value bet, that.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 19 May 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

all these motherfuckers itt moaning as if the refereeing scandal of the year wasn't stoke/spurs

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 May 2012 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

stoke are a continuing refereeing scandal

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 May 2012 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

tbh referees are half congenital authoritarians half pussyholes who respond to the nuremberg ambience of the crowd, the spartan ethic of the team and the sergeant major exhortations of pulis by just ambling around in awe and doing nothing

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 May 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

Andy Carroll, cup final

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 May 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

saints badly need some pace in the squad imo. i guess de ridder's quick but that's all he is, and apart from him i think tadanari lee is our only player who can actually, you know, run past people. also think next season might be tougher for the promoted teams cos some real dross has left the prem this year, but yeah a couple of good signings and i think we'll do ok.

jabba hands, Saturday, 19 May 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

There'll be new dross in the Prem though, don't like the chances of survival for West Brom without Hodgson and Wigan with or without Martinez. Then there's Villa...

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 19 May 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

and whoever wins today

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 May 2012 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

1523: Yep, West Ham are starting to get the ball into the Blackpool box, this time another cross from the left finding Carlton Cole about eight yards out. He gets his head on it, but cannot keep his effort down and it loops high over the bar.

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 May 2012 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

villa wont be as bad agaib, norwich swansea wba might struggle to be as good again, don't fancy fulham under jol tbph

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 May 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

dont fancy fulhams best ever side with their best ever manager?

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 May 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

The good thing about Chelsea making the final is that the playoff final has been totally eclipsed. The 'richest prize in sport' hype that that game usually gets is possibly my #1 hate in all sport (not including various things to do with rugby)

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 May 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

otm increased expectation will lead to a bottleneck imo

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 May 2012 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

stoke's time will come next season, i'm calling it

r|t|c, Saturday, 19 May 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, with Bolton and Blackburn gone there's plenty room for a midtable perennial to have a 'mare (insert Tottenham joke here. Tottenham.)

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 May 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

Sunderland sack MON in Jan, new manager makes an ever bigger hash of it, get relegated last day of the season.

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Saturday, 19 May 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

Stoke and Villa were both bottom three for the second half of the season.

Wigan were seventh!

Djibril Citté (onimo), Saturday, 19 May 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

the stoke demise is going to be nasty, a lot forcible sodomy and phil collins in the dressing room, possibly even an attempt to roid up the goons for a final survival push followed by a fullscale pogrom in stoke with lots of ppl with no teeth attacking foreigns and fifth columnists

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 May 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

a table for the last ten games has wigan one point off the top.

the tactics of a stoke in decline will be something to behold.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 19 May 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

sentences Tony Pulis will never say

"this reliance on Biggery isn't working out, let's get the ball down and pass it and stop killing our fellow professionals."

Djibril Citté (onimo), Saturday, 19 May 2012 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

Man City have hunted down the kid who nabbed the ball during the pitch invasion last week, and made him give it back. Seems wrong somehow, my understanding was that everything down to the players' underpants was fair booty in such circumstances.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

baby guvnor pegs big sam back with a beaut

hammers fans screwing

r|t|c, Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

Ajax captain Jan Vertonghen has now revealed that he is still entertaining thoughts of joining Milan, having been lavished with praise by Rossoneri CEO Adriano Galliani during the group stages of the 2010-11 Champions League.

"I was struck by his words of appreciation after the game," the 25-year-old center back is quoted as saying by MilanNews.it. "His words made me blush.

"I like the Premier League, but if Milan call you, you cannot say no."

r|t|c, Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

sissyjanwhore

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Clubs/Club_Home/2010/8/6/1281105830727/Sam-Allardyce-006.jpg

MODULE DELIVERED

r|t|c, Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/12/10/article-0-004A5F8100000258-871_468x560.jpg

Djibril Citté (onimo), Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

lol, module delivered on both threads

jabba hands, Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

xost Stoke get away with things because referees look at the first minute of a game and think: "Jesus. If I blow for everything we're not going to get any football between the free kicks." So they don't blow. They allow Stoke to dictate what the rules of the game are to be. Wimbledon did the same thing. And it's not just at the Britannia - it's on the road too.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

aye you see that a lot with early fouls. Today in the Scottish Cup Final there was a blatant elbow by a Hearts player that was 70/30 yellow/red imo and it went unpunished - pundits were saying the ref didn't want to book anyone too early because he wanted to keep a lid on the game o_O

Djibril Citté (onimo), Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

idk, if stoke players were already getting booked for persistent tactical fouling by about 15 mins, you might actually see some football

Serov devochka s persikami (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

The decapitation-at-the-thighs by Vinnie Jones on Steve McMahon in the first minute or two of the 1988 FA Cup Final is an astounding example of the genre

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't work so well for Gazza in 91, but then Spurs did win the cup so who's to say tbh

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

aye you see that a lot with early fouls. Today in the Scottish Cup Final there was a blatant elbow by a Hearts player that was 70/30 yellow/red imo and it went unpunished - pundits were saying the ref didn't want to book anyone too early because he wanted to keep a lid on the game o_O

Then booked a Hibs player a few mins later (not to mention the dodgy penalty)

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 19 May 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

Stoke 9/2
Everton 11/2
anywhere in the MLS 10
QPR 12
to be officially retired on the first day of next season 12

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 May 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

owen?

Serov devochka s persikami (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 May 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

Owen?

xp :)

Djibril Citté (onimo), Saturday, 19 May 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

who else? the man loves a flutter

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 May 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

how about?
West Ham 4
Blackpool 9
West Brom 9
Southampton 12
Reading 16
Wolves 16
Bolton 20
Blackburn 25

Djibril Citté (onimo), Saturday, 19 May 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

not Owen

Djibril Citté (onimo), Saturday, 19 May 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

Grant holt

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 May 2012 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

Holt is even money to join Sunderland.

Those odds are for Joseph Anthony "Joey" Barton.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Saturday, 19 May 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

If QPR are really paying him 90k a week, he'll be going nowhere

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 May 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

He's likely to miss a third of the season after his final game shenanigans. That's like £1m for sitting around unless QPR work out a way to fine him.

Djibril Citté (onimo), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

run book on destination of no mark player
spread retarded ITK rumours on twitter
profit

Serov devochka s persikami (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

lock thread

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 May 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

na

redknapp out

now lock this cunt

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 May 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/1Q0ai.jpg

Serov devochka s persikami (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 May 2012 23:30 (thirteen years ago)

I have heard that Redknapp goes to Chelsea.

It has been said authoritatively but I feel that it will not happen.

The rest is close season.

the pinefox, Sunday, 20 May 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

hello football fans

a small question out of mild curiosity. last night my twitter timeline EXPLODED in unanimous hatred for someone called john terry. i assume this is a footballer. what has he done to be so bad & hated?

(bear in mind i assume all footballers are one or all of racist/homophobic/rapists/thugs given that the only times they impinge on my consciousness are because of one of those things, so to be EXTRA hated he must be really awful)

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Sunday, 20 May 2012 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

haha

lex

there is, iirc, a thread actually called 'john terry- why is he so bad & hated?'

i'm not sure it even explains so much as vents that hatred tho.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 May 2012 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

he is really, really awful- even for an english international millionaire professional footballer

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 May 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

And last night he got what he wanted most in all the world.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 May 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

it's v hard to explain the difference between Terry and yr conception of pro-footballers in general except to say that Terry seems unhealthily comfortable with his lifestyle choices more than most players i guess

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 May 2012 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

ah. ok. that thread's opening few posts are quite succinct. he really is that much worse than the rest? do even the fans of his club hate him? or maybe i just don't follow any of them. lol @ him being england CAPTAIN, why would they pick someone so unanimously reviled?

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Sunday, 20 May 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

most of his club's fans like him, many England supporters like him, we'd have to go into the weird socio-geographic rifts that run thru the notion of supporting England too.

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 May 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

srsly don't believe lex has never heard the phrase 'john terry' before today given his sterling attempts to be the most extracurricular football player of all time with his forays into criminal justice, celebrity gossip etc

Serov devochka s persikami (nakhchivan), Sunday, 20 May 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

going into that would be about the only thing that could make football interesting for me!

xp i may have done but footballers' names mostly don't stick in the mind, they all blur into one all-cheating all-racist thug

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Sunday, 20 May 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

maybe worth doing a 'the weird socio-geographic rifts that run thru the notion of supporting England' ILE thread

ambiguity of 'England' deliberate

Serov devochka s persikami (nakhchivan), Sunday, 20 May 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

i'm sure we've had some debate about it on the England manager threads but i don't know if there's a full-on thread dedicated to it

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 May 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

and possibly wider - english athletes in general? i have always found the assumption that english audiences are only interested in hearing about english sportspeople quite weird and frustrating

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Sunday, 20 May 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

possibly relevant in OLYMPICS YEAR

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Sunday, 20 May 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

also the thread on nationalism which was more US-centred i think. but i'm clearly in too funny a mood to argue about stuff today. don't know why tbh.

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 May 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Union Jacks almost automatically make me boo and i can't explain that fully either.

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 May 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

He is the ur-cheating all-racist thug though. The thing that makes him particularly hateful is that he dresses this up in quasi-heroic for England and St George blather and whenever he gets called out on anything his usual response is "I didn't do it" even when it's caught on camera that he did.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 20 May 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

oh god one of my friends delivered some a+++++ union jacks commentary on twitter the other day, if i knew how to screencap or anything i'd repost it somewhere

they're not as bad as st george's crosses obv but being surrounded by them in JUBILOLYMPICS YEAR is doing my blood pressure no good at all

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Sunday, 20 May 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, i enjoy most sports but the combination of the Monarchy, the Olympics and a kind of One Show all-in-this-together Britishness is making me half pukey half psycho at the mo

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 May 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

lol @ him being england CAPTAIN, why would they pick someone so unanimously reviled?

he is especially representative imo

they all blur into one all-cheating all-racist thug

that thug is john terry, tbh

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 May 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

so would there be something in the theory that he is some sort of lightning rod focus for everything (fans) already hate about the sport? encapsulating all the negativity that you kind of have to ignore or do some suspension-of-disbelief shiz elsewhere?

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Sunday, 20 May 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

that's pretty astute

Number None, Sunday, 20 May 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

I don't know that we ignore it, but yeah there might be something in that, especially in him wearing his ugliness/unthinkingness as a badge of pride.

There's also a monumental lack of self-awareness, combined with ruthless, a bit cheaty and morally-unmerited success, that is most distasteful. He reminds me a lot of Gordon Brown actually.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 May 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it's true, and i kinda why i find the visceral hatred of him either hysteric/hyperbolic or just lame like the LOL JT IS A CUNT stuff which is an insult to the proud tradition of lol football via ken c and a hoy hoy

Serov devochka s persikami (nakhchivan), Sunday, 20 May 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

i was going to do a poll of most hateful golden generation player but i think ive brought enough rote negativism to the board as it is

Serov devochka s persikami (nakhchivan), Sunday, 20 May 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

nobody who has seen the super grainy footage of lampard jr and ferdinand sr trying to coerce blowjobs out of girls in ayia napa circa 2000 could plausibly argue that terry is an altogether worse category to them

Serov devochka s persikami (nakhchivan), Sunday, 20 May 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

My performance was on the same tape as a recording of Kieron and Frank with a couple of birds, but it wasn’t all at the same time.

I didn’t even know about what they had done, it was not all one big orgy, as was reported.

Somehow, the camera got nicked. About two weeks later I got a call from a newspaper about a video of me shagging a bird. I could have fainted.

The video was wrong, yet to me it was harmless, just part of growing up.

The truth is some women will do anything to crack on with footballers and, let’s be fair, which young players would pass up the opportunity to take them up on some of their offers?

Some birds will buy you drinks all night, strip for you, get shagged with other people in the room and do all sorts of tricks. It was highly embarrassing.

Serov devochka s persikami (nakhchivan), Sunday, 20 May 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

a marina hyde column describes it as 'ordering them to perform a lesbian sex show', i guess the beejes required no persuasion

also id forgotten that lampard was involved in the famous post-september 11th abuse of american tourists at an airport

Serov devochka s persikami (nakhchivan), Sunday, 20 May 2012 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

these last few tweets from nakhchivan are kind of why i was curious in the first place b/c i thought the kind of behaviour i was reading about from terry was...commonplace among footballers

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Sunday, 20 May 2012 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

tweets?!

#spendingtoomuchtimeontwitter

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Sunday, 20 May 2012 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

FWIW Lex, John Terry is no longer England captain. He's actually been stripped of the captaincy twice, first for having sex with a team-mate's wife, then for alleged (ie definite, just not yet proven in a court of law) racist abuse of a black player, Anton Ferdinand. Anton's brother, Rio, was the guy dropped from the England squad altogether for having the temerity to be a bit annoyed by this.

So yeah, that lightning rod thing is pretty astute actually, although I think JT has a kind of unrepentant malice you don't get with most of yr hateful Golden Generation types.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 20 May 2012 19:40 (thirteen years ago)


shit title

― 10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 6 August 2011 21:58 (9 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

suppose lfc would settle for any title tho what what

― 10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 6 August 2011 21:58 (9 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fuck off back to the Europa League where youse belong

― i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 August 2011 21:58 (9 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 May 2012 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

psychic powers, obv

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 May 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

fuck off back to the championship thread where you belong

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 May 2012 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

another thing about EBJT is his rheumy-eyed sentimentality (mainly about himself).

the pinefox, Sunday, 20 May 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

If JT could suck his own dick he'd still be pissy about it

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Sunday, 20 May 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

lachrymose blubber

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 May 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

terry seldom actually says much of note, it's just he appears like a total dick.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Monday, 21 May 2012 00:24 (thirteen years ago)

sort of agree he is at worst the face of another few hundred famous players who are cut from the same cloth.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Monday, 21 May 2012 00:25 (thirteen years ago)

get on dis ting

"The Championship is not an option" - I Love Football off-season and transfer speculation thread 2012

Djibril Citté (onimo), Monday, 21 May 2012 09:08 (thirteen years ago)

just for the record, as one of the proud pillars of the traditions of lol football I fully endorse LOL JT IS A CUNT

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 21 May 2012 09:51 (thirteen years ago)

shagging away his teammate's birds
sprouting alledged racist words
kneeing someone at the back, got himself suspended
still changed into his shirt after the final has ended
english and proud
he proclaims to the crowd
the smirk on his face
it's a fucking disgrace
at least in the end small justice prevailed
when he tried to push his way to the front but failed
that was magnificent
p.s. JT's a cunt

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 21 May 2012 10:16 (thirteen years ago)


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