are you a hipster?

are all cretans liars?

― max, Monday, September 5, 2011 7:51 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

http://jobs.usehipster.com/

Probably. I've been called as such.

effing hipsters

I didn't used to think so but then I realized that hipsters aren't even the dominant life form in the early-20s children of the upper-middle-class demographic, and I'm a lot closer to a hipster than whatever the kind of person who has muscles and wears athletic shorts and plays volleyball is.

Do hipsters love to dance? If so I am so a hipster (yellow shirt).

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/926/me3kl.jpg

tryin too hard

my bike has colored tires, so probably

but then I get excited about recordings of mozart performed on fortepiano, so probably not

in the top ten

I ticked "yes", but I'm 31 next month, live in a UK commuter suburb and ride a mountain bike. I work in media advertising, but it's telesales more or less. I have a "vintage" TV (well, it's one of those ancient widescreens) but I use it to watch TV and not as a coffeetable. My clothes are mainly from Uniqlo and H&M. Basically I'm the worst hipster ever.

no, i am too old.

I'm pretty sure I'm not.

damn straight daddio

Voted no, but I'm hipper than most people I interact with on a regular basis. I figure that shopping at Kmart probably cancels out my chillwave playlist though.

Every time I see this word, I think "pants". So, no.

Shopping at K-Mart is extremely cool.

It is not.

No

Ridiculously easy for me to answer no.

people who begrudgingly self-identify as hipster >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who make a big stink about not being a hipster

http://www.granitegrok.com/pix/Nixon.jpg

"I am not a hipster!"

yeah probably. i'm currently wearing slim jeans with the cuff rolled up, that's probably enough in itself before everything else has its say.

5 years ago, maybe

harsh :'(

Yeah, I'd consider myself to have been a hipster in like 2003 or 2004, but I had nowhere near the depth of hip cultural knowledge. I feel comfortable saying that I became "no longer a hipster" when I got fat after quitting smoking.

http://jobs.usehipster.com/

― buzza, Tuesday, September 6, 2011 3:01 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark

i do sincerely love that this is a thing

u need minature (vintage) ankle braces and an mc hammer flare around the thigh imo

xpost

I have a record collection so yes

i play hipster-y music for hipsters, so probably. i know it's going to be a good show if there's a high hipster concentration.

the word "hipster" is starting to look really weird right now.

90% eurotrance

xpost

{eurotrash hipster)

jordan don't you play in a brass band?!

yeah that totally not hipster-y. i also do a solo thing with samplers and synths and drums, so.

altho i've been to two hip events this year that inc brass bands and of course there's williams fairey brass band, hypnotic brass ensemble, hot8 brass band etc that's all p hipster

I'd like to be a hipster, but know deep down I'm just not cool enough.

I'm such a fucking hipster

if you had told me in '03 that hot 8 and hipsters would ever have anything to do with each other...

blame the beards

I hope you answered YES Tom

people who begrudgingly self-identify as hipster >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who make a big stink about not being a hipster

lol you basically just said "me >>>>> other people" here

officially acknowledged by flopson as one of ilx's top 10 hipsters

;-)

tbf "me >>>>>>>> other people" is basically my credo

ppl who argue abt whether or not someone qualifies as a hipster as though its something to prize are history's most disgusting savages btw

Wait hold the phone chillwave is real?

I tried to redefine "hipster" within my circle of friends to be "people with abnormally large hips"; it didn't take off ;_;

true story: the word "hipster" means "panties" in Sweden and when you go there if you see a lingerie ad it has the word "hipster" right underneath the panties there

so if your favorite past-time on this earth is thinking about the word hipster may i recommend the country of Sweden to some of y'all, you will go completely apeshit

I do not believe that to be a true story

voted no

you're like the hippest dude in riverdale, tho

I do not believe that to be a true story

http://i52.tinypic.com/2ur8901.jpg

pic taken by me in Sweden

no1 itt is a h1pster

peace

it's a shop

dont really care about my clothes, live in an uncool part of NYC, never go to concerts etc etc

but if I were trying to get with girls and lived in brooklyn I would prob dress pretty hipstery...

basically I only see it as a means not an end

slightly more seriously, "trosa" means "briefs" and apparently "hipster" means... "hipster"

so basically that is Swedish hipster underwear

hipster panties are a thing in america too!

http://www.gap.com/browse/product.do?pid=849076&locale=en_US&kwid=1&sem=false&sdReferer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gap.com%2Fproducts%2Fhipster-panties.jsp

I feel like we went over this before...

ppl who argue abt whether or not someone qualifies as a hipster as though its something to prize are history's most disgusting savages btw

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, September 6, 2011 12:39 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hoos dog u are literally blasting all around otm high fives in the other thread to people doing just this

yeah i kinda scratched my head at that

HOOS, you are probably one of ILX's top 5 hipsters imo

god i love sweden

basically I only see it as a means not an end

― iatee, Tuesday, September 6, 2011 1:16 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

culture in general tho right

"hey girl, I MEANS to see yr END tonight"

hoos is like a 60s hipster that's into jazz and beat poetry though

yah hoos is more an 'on the road' type dude than a lamps book list dude

sometimes I feel like a mega hipster, and other times no. I am probably in the middle. Depends on my surroundings.

I'm more of a wannabe hipster veering into semi-cool dad territory as my hair falls out.

My bike has drop handlebars, but gears.I own a Rapha "purse". Going to ATP. Want to build a fixie. Work in "marketing". Have my own "artwork" on our flat's walls. Into photography. Own two designer cats. Own Camper shoes. Wear a lot of American Apparal t-shirts. Own Grado headphones. Have a blog. Tweet a lot. Occasionally do a bit of online music journalism. I'm about 3 inches from being scum of the earth, basically. However, I'm 32, so too old for this shit.

definition of yupster

Yeah that is all just stuff that you can buy with monies. Hipsters know people, and do things.

Been thanked in the sleeve of a number one album?

yupster for sure

.. does that make me a bupster?

Have my own "artwork" on our flat's walls

gross

that actually gives you minus points on the Paul Fussell class quiz btw

Honeymooned in NYC.

Own an iMac, an iPad, and a MacBook Air.

Being a judge on a local film competition.

been clean-shaven since january, still identify as "bearded," so yes

but i just called myself a hipster which means i'm not one?

see I think of true hipsters as those kids that live in warehouses, throw parties/shows in said warehouse, never shower, bike everywhere, and always look trendy and dirty at the same time. OR IS THIS SOMETHING ELSE? CRUST PUNK?

That sounds about right.

Those might be gutter punks idk

I am so hip I am having difficulty seeing over my pelvis.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72/Mark_Wing-Davey_as_Zaphod_Beeblebrox.jpg

no i'm not. few hipsterish things about me, places i hang out, music i listen to, shows i go to, the bike i ride. but a lot more things that don't fit, i'm a civil servant, i'm heavily into football and dress accordingly, i don't get invited to all that many parties, haven't been in a band or otherwise involved in anything like that for 6 years etc.

xp - it depends on the shows. like, if they are throwing noise shows, or art shows, or dance parties, they are not crusty/gutter punks.

also dogs. dogs are a key crusty/gutter punk signifier.

Never been in a band and don't party.

also dogs. dogs are a key crusty/gutter punk signifier.

― sarahel, Tuesday, September 6, 2011 3:57 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

crusty puppies

see I think of true hipsters as those kids that live in warehouses, throw parties/shows in said warehouse, never shower, bike everywhere, and always look trendy and dirty at the same time. OR IS THIS SOMETHING ELSE? CRUST PUNK?

― homosexual II, Tuesday, September 6, 2011 4:45 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is definitely the definition of hipsters in Baltimore if not many other places

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/195757_94643099717_4667444_n.jpg

hipster dog = likely; crust/gutter punk dog = no

http://jejuneinstitute.org/images/chauncy.jpg

this dog could conceivably be a hipster punk dog

hoos dog u are literally blasting all around otm high fives in the other thread to people doing just this

― Sex Droughts and Rock & Roll (flopson), Tuesday, September 6, 2011 6:57 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

no yeah i'm including myself in that indictment due to totally hating myself, have yall not figured that out

like i don't have a golf scoring card like some of the mfers in that thread but i am keeping a wary eye on the game

I ended up at a labor day BBQ yesterday in Brooklyn that was hipstered out to the max, and I certainly felt a bit...awkward and old, somehow?

I tried to place why, exactly. I lived in Brooklyn for a long time and I write about music and art and stuff, I certainly have things to talk about with these people

yeah here in Denver the people I am thinking of throw dance parties and host noise shows at these warehouses, so I am thinking yes, hipsters.

Are you thinking of Rh1noceropolis?

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

I'm skinny, wear thrift-store clothes only, collect vinyls, play a theremin, been called a hipster many times. Since 19 I've been playing music with people that are famous indie rockers, I'm constantly sharing living space with other artists, and I've been in the local free alt weekly probably a dozen times. I edit video and websites and love experimental film like you wouldn't believe.

Truth is, personally I think I'm too much of a nerd to really be a well-functioning social hipster. More often than not out at a party or show I would rather be sitting at home watching MST3K or Star Trek.

Also, Sweden is paradise.

Is 34 too old to be considered a hipster? I don't think I qualify but where is the cut off?

like 2-3 inches above the knee

i think it was decided on this or the other hipster thread that the required coke consumption in order to remain a hipster goes up more every year past 30

feel like if i lived in LA/NY/SF and had a job that allowed me to grow facial hair i'd qualify

well those are the only cities where they exist apparently, so yeah

hipsters exist in cities outside of nyc/sf/la but any tier 1 hipster is going to have the initiative to move to a tier 1 hipster city

wait hipsters have initiative???

making it to tier 1 takes initiative, no doubt

hipster is anyone hipper than oneself

Mtl not getting respect.

canada not a tier 1 hipster country

frosty punks iirc

pizza punks

Hipsterism is relative.

http://dustinland.com/dlands/dland.hipster.jpg

I voted no, but I'm definitely much more of a hipster than most friends my age (37). At the same time, I have a sort of disdain for hipster culture, it all feels a bit forced to me.

Does any hipster actually wear a goatee? Feels like that is one hipster meme that is more or less left over from Beatnik days and trotted out due to writer laziness.

i swear this conversation is taking place in two threads simultaneously
it's like an echo in here

I'm a curious mix of hipster, anti-hipster (sometimes its hipper not to be hip, because the supposedly hip contingent has lost its way), and oblivious to what's hip (which can also be hip in it's own way).

i swear this conversation is taking place in two threads simultaneously
it's like an echo in here

― thank got forks showed up (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, September 7, 2011 10:34 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah there's a lot of crossover between this thread and "Are the people in the Star Wars movies hipsters?"

hipster panties are a thing in america too!

yes -- if you purchase your lady underpants in a cardboard 3-pack at target or walmart, you'll find that there are four different styles available: boyshort, brief, hipster, and bikini. also, while two of them will be a decent solid color like black or white or blue, one will invariably be crazily striped or festooned with paisley, leading you to stare morosely at the package and think "i'm a grown-ass woman, why can't my underwear purchase reflect this."

i don't know what actual hipsters wear for underwear, though.

My soon-to-be mother-in-law once pulled me aside at Christmas Eve and asked me, "Are you a hipster?"

hipster intervention.

lol jaymc

Lmao. How were u only telling ilx about this now

My soon-to-be mother-in-law once pulled me aside at Christmas Eve and asked me, "Are you a hipster?"

tonight thank god it's them instead of you, etc.

My soon-to-be mother-in-law once pulled me aside at Christmas Eve and asked me, "Are you a hipster?"

― *ter jacket (jaymc), Wednesday, September 7, 2011 11:40 AM

lmao

True story. I wish I could remember what prompted it.

had you just asked her where you could hang up your Palestinian scarf

were you drinking a horchata

perhaps you'd just apologized for leaving your Razor scooter in the corner next to her plants but you didn't want the rain to ruin your new Wavves sticker

maybe she read about hipsters in the NY Times or on NPR and was just trying to make conversation?

what did you answer?

i hope it was 'no'

were you drinking a horchata

horchata is a hipster drink?

vampire weekend reference

oh idnkt

guys he was in a rock band called Canasta that featured a violinist, I think it was a fair question

lol

what did you answer?

I think I rambled about how I'm sure some people would consider me a hipster but that the term is ambiguous and ultimately useless.

You are so not hipster.

the term is ambiguous and ultimately useless

sounds like hipster talk to me, get him!

::leaps forward with net::

Hipster puppies go to the hipster pound

and somewhere right now a hipster is ironically wearing a Pound Puppies shirt

Did jaymc do Persepolis in charades?

If the vintage tennis shoe fits...

sounds like hipster talk to me, get him!

― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:00 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

IF IT FLOATES, WE KNOAWE IT'S A HIPSTERE

Who carrrrrres. Most recognized hipsterdome is just aspirational BS for social climbers, people stuck in highschool (cliques based on external signifiers! is life still that scary for you???), and general nitwits. That is, if they're buying into it ... first sign: you take on qualities recognizable as "hipster". Why? Cuz I wanna be seen as a hipster! Or at a higher station in life! I think that's pretty silly when you hit a certain age (I dunno, 25?).

Most people are pretty cool though if they're just pursuing their own oddball interests. But, by and far, people are generally shallow along all cross-sections of life, so the whole "hipster question"(??!?) seems pointless. It's all the same crap no matter the name you give to it.

spectrum otm

i'll have you know that my carefully cultivated online persona is ANYTHING but shallow

there's a certain obnoxious privileged tourism that is encapsulated by "hipster" that is certainly scornworthy, and I feel like this scorn could culminate in real social pressure to raise taxes on the wealthy, so it's a worthwhile thing.

feel like this thread isn't complete until burt_stanton opines

Yeah, maybe there are some interesting things to pull out of it. Say, hipsters representing the rising importance of consumerism and information/media know-how in society. I'm sure that's been covered a million times over, though. Frankly ever since I was a kid I thought it was stupid to place so much importance on buying stuff, and "being something" through objects you own (totally unnecessary), and I don't know, that seems pretty important in this whole hipster thing. Hipster = fulfillment of the 21st century mandate to buy, be what you buy, and to know (but not understand).

~opinions~

spectrum sounds kinda socially aspie-ish but there is something abt Lamp's perspective here that strikes me as being a lil superior & ~builds wall~ about hipsterism. like, at some level its all imitatiev / masks ppl are putting on, & some do it more convincingly, and closer to a like 'actual art scene', and some do it in small midwestern cities & still aspire to be on the cutting edge or w/e, and when it comes down to it there's not much diff. i guess Lamp is arguing there's a social element to it that supersedes the signifiers. i think thats generally otm.

im assuming thats also what flopson means when he pats himself on the back for having brunch w/ attractive women lol

people who literally wear their appreciation of art/fashion/music/culture on their sleeves have always been objects of scorn/resentment by other people who don't, this isn't really anything new

spectrum on the spectrum

lol

i agree, shakey, band t-shirts became really lame when people started putting logos exclusively on teh sleeves

omg 'literally on their sleeves'

btw i regret using aspie there ive been trying to tone that back. i just mean that he seems to lack some basic self awareness abt his inability to operate 'outside' of capitalism

http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/2922/cover_39268182010.jpg

there is something abt Lamp's perspective here that strikes me as being a lil superior & ~builds wall~ about hipsterism

haha cmon ive spent the last two weeks or so of my ilx time being p open and genuine in discussing H1PSTER STUDIES or w/e rmde at this thread shld be allowed i mean: Hipster = fulfillment of the 21st century mandate to buy, be what you buy, and to know (but not understand).

(but not to understand).

http://i.imgur.com/hamAN.jpg

Hipster = fulfillment of the 21st century mandate to buy, be what you buy, and to know (but not understand).

(but not to understand).

yeah this isn't really right tho, I mean by what metric is "understanding" measured. the consumer goods angle has definitely amped things up a bit, but y'know there were people who flaunted their personal style in previous, pre-industrial capitalist commodity eras as well

oh lord

oh i mean im fine w/ firm boundaries for the term, i just think the "they only exist in SF/NY/LA" and similar is drawing a p tight line ... they exist on college campuses across the country for ex (& the fact that its colleges does mean a pretty strong class line obv) & I think that the boundaries are a bit looser in terms of geographics & origin ... its an aspirational thing for most ppl, and a socially adept kid from suburban st louis can easily end up a completely culturally fluent hipster in chicago but arent they kind of there already before they move here? i mean its an aesthetic sensitivity as much as it is a social thing ... idk im losing track of my thought process here trying to care about this lol

well that's what this boils down to, right? people who make outward displays of cultural preferences while eschewing more common and generally more established, populist styles (say, sports gear or business suits or mom jeans). this is all about appearances, "understanding" doesn't even figure into it.

xp

a town like Athens, GA can have as much of the fashion/style signifiers as well as the creative community/interconnectedness as one of the big three, even more so, imo. lack of large entertainment/media/fashion industries makes more room for more ~authenticity~ in those communities imo

Lamp still otm, i'm just adding to what he and deej are both saying

I don't think a hipster doesn't genuinely enjoy sriracha, or is putting it on god damn everything purely as a fashion statement, but the appreciation operates more on a novelty level. the fickle tastes of the hipster can leave a sriracha-man in a precarious situation when he's on the wrong end of a sriracha bubble.

I know I asked this before, but I am serious, can women really be hipsters? The more I think about the more I think they can't be.

um...how so?

yeah you need to elaborate on why you are asking that question before anyone can answer it for you

my other feeling, which I haven't really thought through, but I'm sure is correct, is that white people cannot truly be hipsters

btw i would also like to offer up the fact that hipsters raom free right here in the mpls/stpl area, def not a localized thing

can dogs be hipsters

not a response to the prev post btw, although it would be funny if it was

I'm being pretty tongue-in-cheek here, btw. Fashion and trends have existed forever, and I'm sure there are some lessons about ~~~America in the 21st Century~~~ that can be gleaned from studying these elusive summer scarf people.

i am officially kind of depressed that the smart people in this thread are still talking about this but on that note: http://readpop.blogspot.com/2009/05/black-hipsters.html

i was going to start a poll called "does anyone care if anyone is a hipster" but then i got lazy so this is easier

guys just wait a minute I'm thinking about how to phrase my thoughts on women as a whole in the least confusing possible way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCTK5HC9UMg

"the thing is, women actually have vaginas, and I don't really think you can be a hipster unless you have an ironic vagina"

hipster innit

women take more than a couple minutes to think about just be patient

"the thing is, women actually have vaginas, and I don't really think you can be a hipster unless you have an ironic vagina"

― Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Wednesday, September 7, 2011 9:35 PM (1 minute ago)

am i supposed to tattoo it on my index finger and hold it up for photos or

a vagina...in my pinky

my other feeling, which I haven't really thought through, but I'm sure is correct, is that white people cannot truly be hipsters

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, September 7, 2011 5:27 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

no no that's the new thing, they're called whipsters

I don't think artists can be hipsters.

can dogs be hipsters

― polyphonic, Wednesday, September 7, 2011 5:28 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

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women can be hipsters to other women the more I think about it, but I'm not sure if women can be hipsters to men, right now, I have to think a couple more minutes

you are making no sense

but your dn really does right now

women cant be h1psters but girls can

If dogs are muslim how come they don't observe halal

http://www.theawl.com/2010/10/how-to-pick-up-a-hipster-girl

If dogs are muslim how come they don't observe halal

they are too busy observing howlal

how lol

dog shi'ite all over the place

now I'm not sure who are better, women or hipsters

oh i mean im fine w/ firm boundaries for the term, i just think the "they only exist in SF/NY/LA" and similar is drawing a p tight line

well i never said that max did & i dont really agree w/ it

imo one of other defining traits of the Objective H1pster is that insularity which i dont really want to expand on but means that you can be a 'h1pster' in wichita but that the wichita h1pster probably wont seem to be one to like tier 1 oakland/brooklyn/silver lake h1psters bcuz theyll have their own rituals and markings...

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oh this also helps explain why 'uh oh im having a fantasy' cant really recognize women or white ppl as h1psters (xp)

i thought the mark of a hipster was that all their markings and rituals are appropriated?

I feel like the wichita hipster passes the test if he plans on moving to sf/brooklyn/etc. eventually

cause otherwise, I mean all the hipsters in brooklyn from ohio - were they not hipsters before they moved? at what point would they switch identities?

Are you thinking of Rh1noceropolis?

― sarahel, Tuesday, September 6, 2011 10:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

yes, but there are others like that, too. even smaller DIY venues and such.

Rh1noceropolis can't be that hip because I've been there

I feel like the wichita hipster passes the test if he plans on moving to sf/brooklyn/etc. eventually

cause otherwise, I mean all the hipsters in brooklyn from ohio - were they not hipsters before they moved? at what point would they switch identities?

― iatee, Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:56 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm its not like their aesthetic sense was created by the crucible of hipster culture in bk, its just a place that a bunch of like-minded & media savvy kids go to hang out iirc

"all the hipsters in brooklyn from ohio - were they not hipsters before they moved? at what point would they switch identities"

i don't know why, but i have this idea that teenage mutant ninja turtles are a common reservoir from which all hipsters can find kinship.

yo i heard hipsters drink pabst blue ribbon is that true

And the Wichita Hipster,
is still on the line

i thought they moved to microbrews made from bees they keep in their loft?

by the time I bike to bushwick...

mccarren park is melting in the dark

otm its not like their aesthetic sense was created by the crucible of hipster culture in bk, its just a place that a bunch of like-minded & media savvy kids go to hang out iirc

think i agree w/you but don't you think living in a place like bk could intensify one's hipsterishnessdom?

gah i got sucked into the discussion, sb'ing myself

i don't know why, but i have this idea that teenage mutant ninja turtles are a common reservoir from which all hipsters can find kinship.

― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, September 7, 2011 5:09 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wtf this is anyone who watched tv as an 8 yr old in the early 90s

i will say that tmnt was instrumental in my appreciation of nyc

Michelangelo was the first hipster

they just four doods slumming it, enemies are bebop and rockism.

Michelangelo was a mainstreamer / stoner

idk lamp u are just really describing "scenes" or subcultures in general and not anythings specifically hipster-ey

raphael was obv the only one who might be considered a hipster

i mean couldn't you insert ppl who are really into metal or 30smthng homo yuppies and you wouldn't have to change too much to make it work.

so excited for this poll to close and this thread to sink into oblivion

I don't know that inserting 30something homo yuppies into TMNT would really work

kinda think you're fronting about your antipathy to this thread mr j

metal rightwingers gravitate towards transformers, i've found sadly.

tru hipsters only fuck w/ go-bots tho

did you live close enough to school that you'd get home to see the beginning of robotech or did you live far enough away that you'd miss the first 5 minutes or so?

― sarahel, Monday, July 11, 2011 5:08 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

no 56

I cast thee out

going to assume based on hipster logic that all the yeses are nos and nos are yeses

*thread to sinks into oblivion*

i think we should all self-identify which option we vote for, regroup into those 2 separate camps, and then just go to war

this is not a perfect knife but maybe a distinction between hipster and nerd can be cut by "which is better: robotech or macross?"

lol where are these 42 hipsters

idk lamp u are just really describing "scenes" or subcultures in general and not anythings specifically hipster-ey

sort of? kinda mad now that i realize this is the ile thread but... i guess i was tryna emphasize that hipsterdom is a scene partly to avoid msg board x is s0 hipster/x is s0 not hipster back-n-forth and partly because i think its impt that hipsterdom isnt all that different from other youth subcultures in primarily being a social phenomenon rather than an aesthetic or philosophical one?

w/r/t to the wichita thing its like: finance dudes have their own specific subculture and like, say you work in finance in charlotte you can still be a 'wall st. guy' still adhere to the same basic code the belief in competitive masculinity and ostentation the worship of money &c &c and you probably do the same workouts and read (well, skim) the same magazines and covet the same watches your still p of the same tribe but i mean yr not 'on wall st.' yknow. does this make any sense?

i mean i guess i think yr sort of right idk i havent done that good a job staking out the ground on which hipsters differ from other subculturals but i mean i guess thats a p long post or s.thing this has all been dribs and drabs too

would drink microbrews made by bees tbh

pretty sure a real wall st. guy would shit all over you if you work in finance in charlotte

but yeah i guess it's aspirational and ultimately the nightmarish values are the same

well yeah thats my point like a greenpoint h1pster wld think the kid from wichita was a total lame but their lives wld probably look reasonably similar and their take on things wld probably be p close

but they r both hipsters -- just one is lower on the heiarchy that the other has conceived in his head

lamp where do u live? for some reason i am thinking . . . bc?

I didn't read this thread

Q: Hipsters, what makes you a hipster?

heyyyyyy Captain Lorax is here!!!!!!

What's going on here?

a controlled demolition

http://i.imgur.com/KsAkx.jpg

Hippies > Hipsters

christ almighty

Christ would of been a hippie fwiw

capn would you consider yourself a hipster?

I said no

he said no

What did you pick?

so excited for this poll to close and this thread to sink into oblivion

okay so basically you are telling me to bump this thread at least once a day

how about just starting an "is jjjusten a hipster?" poll set to close in 6 months

i work at a bank. i'm the "fucking up the system from within!!!" hipster. except not really that much.

http://i.imgur.com/KsAkx.jpg
―  (gr8080), Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:05 AM (1 hour ago)

lolled so hard I spit my loko out—unfortunately it landed on the SB button but eh, what can you do

can i just be clear, when i said that hipsters only exist in ny/sf/la, i was _specifically_ trying to be superior/exclusionary/*builds wall*

http://i.imgur.com/KwWFt.jpg

i am surprised that this thread got so ~~serious~~ not that im complaining it was just more fun for me when it was funny

yeah i didn't exactly intend this to be a serious thread

dude, you were there. when this thread was still funny. old school
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A friend once told me "Oh, you are SO not a hipster."

i can hear the footsteps every night on the threads,
but I was there..

i shelved a hipster puppies book at work today

I own an Android and actually like Windows 7, therefore hipsters hate me.

yep

yay!

i posted this on twitter yesterday:

O/H, conv abt trendy owls: "It's hipster. Do you guys know what HIPSTER is?" ***Silence. They shake their heads no***

Her answer was out of my earshot.

this was a group of yuppie-ish white and asian americans, approx. age 35.

pulled out Erase Errata cd from 2003 to listen to in the car -- the disc graphics are owls

the conversation (the part i heard) was about how the woman's daughter liked things with owls on them.

as a female born in the mid-70s on the west coast, it is my birthright to freely like owls, imo, real or macrame or on a tshirt. and wolves and foxes and whales and dragons, all of the animals really!

i am not a hipster, i think that's pretty clear to all involved.

i have a '70s macrame owl on my wall -- i bought it in a thrift store in st. louis six years ago, a few years before the owl-as-crafty/etsy-meme really came to fruition.

so yes, owl, thrift store, "i was there" = hipster.

my girlfriend circa 02-04 was a habitual collector of anything that had owls on it, particularly older tacky things from the thrift store-- was she ahead of the curve?

http://www.macrameowl.com

haha the calls and hoots section! i have a rescued macrame owl i bought at a japanese cultural centre garage sale a few years ago.

when i was a small child some family members would call me "owl" instead of "al" and got into the habit of giving me a variety of owl-shaped objects, of which i still have quite a few. i am more proto-owl hipster than anyone here!

http://theobelisk.net/obelisk/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/weirdowlcover.jpg

counting down to the weird owl yankovic dn

this thread has become some sort of owl-themed 'losing my edge'

lowl

my girlfriend circa 02-04 was a habitual collector of anything that had owls on it, particularly older tacky things from the thrift store-- was she ahead of the curve?

Most people these days seem to use "hipster" to refer to a certain type of fashion victim and with those people you can't really be ahead of the curve since it's always about being of the moment. You get no points for doing something before everyone else. It's not about actual cultural knowledge or creativity so much as latching onto passing cultural signifiers.

are you fucking kidding me? i thought hipster mantra #1 was "i was into ____ before it was cool"

?????

pretty sure this has been linked already but just in case:

http://www.hipsterrunoff.com/museum/owls-finally-get-their-revenge-bon-iver-james-blake.html

http://twitter.com/#!/hipsterrunoff/statuses/106883919953141760

put a bird on it lol

we already had the thing where I went on about macrame owls, right?

I can't believe owls are a THING

What was the deal with OWLS in the 70s?

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2010/5/10/1273508147848/Owl-City-Perform-At-Sheph-006.jpg

fucking murder in my heart

didn't recognize that guy without the thousand hugs from ten thousand lightning bugs

How did the hipster burn himself?

He was eating his food before it was cool.

ahaaaaaaaaaa

I liked that joke before it was cool ;)

been kind of keeping a watchful eye on this owl phenomenon because the checks i ordered a few years ago during my Twin Peaks obsession have an owl insignia on them. i got a box of them, so i get to be embarrassed by these things for possibly years to come.

tbh, Twin Peaks has become a hipster thing too, but i stand by that shit.

lol @ "has become"

seriously

well, when the big boxset was released was when it started noticeably "becoming", though i'm sure it's always had that type of following.

http://i.imgur.com/7WOj5.gif

ok, i did not notice Twin Peaks shit everywhere until a few years ago. i am not clued into this shit as deeply as you dudes though, sorry.

dude it was created by david lynch
christ

i know. just didn't notice TP in particular becoming super prominent until relatively recently.

replace "has become" with "is". g'night everybody!

we all hate you so much right now.

just filled with intense hipster hate right now

let me defuse that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY

more like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oDuGN6K3VQ

our premium brand of cat food (minimum 39% meat content).

you let ur cat eat that? what happened to puff puff post, are they still thinking?

http://www.npr.org/2011/11/16/142387490/the-hipsterfication-of-america?ps=cprs

On the streets of Franklin and Nashville and almost every town throughout America now, hipsters scuttle by on scooters, zip around in Zipcars or Smart cars, roll by on fixed-gear bikes or walk about in snazzy high-top sneakers and longboard shorts. They snap Instagram photos of each other — in black skinny jeans and T-shirts with funky epigrams like "If You Deny It, You Are A Hipster" — and turn the pix into iPhone cases. They buy cool-cat snuggle clothes at American Eagle and down-market monkey boots at Urban Outfitters. They drink cheap beer, listen to music on vinyl records and decorate their lairs with upcycled furniture.

They follow indie bands and camp out at Occupy movements. They work as programmers and shop clerks, baristas and bartenders. They are gamers and volunteers, savvy entrepreneurs and out-of-work basement dwellers.

Why are people still writing articles like this, and why are they all so misinformed?

At the macro level they're not all that wrong.

American Eagle?

dying over here

scuttle by

I'd never heard of Franklin TN before, is there a particular reason its in here or was it selected to be an 'everytown'

eagle, apparel, whatever

oh for fuck's sake.

And sure, on the macro level they're not all that wrong, but it's the idea that we're defined by these things vs. we are an extremely diverse group of people who also happen to like these macro level things

cool-cat snuggle clothes

T-shirts with funky epigrams

HEY BROTHERS YOU WANNA SMOKE A JAY AND LISSIN TO SOME VAN HAYLEN??

concentric (and eccentric) circles

on the streets of america, people are doing things that are currently popular with their age group

Franklin is an upscale suburb of nashville; can see why people would associate it with hipsters
"the vandy kids"

i detect a definitional tautology

like when car commercials in the future do the wacky LOL THROUGH THE YEARS stuff where the dude turns into a hippie, then a disco guy then a yuppie then grunge thing. The 00s will 100% be represented by the "hipster"

Young white people are so fucking awesome at controlling the narrative

I'm enjoying how the author seems to class both "cocoa puffs and red bulls" and "gourmet grilled cheese sandwiches" as hipster food

WHAT DOES HIPSTERS ATE?

Young white people are so fucking awesome at controlling the narrative

― upright shitizen's brigade (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, November 18, 2011 4:26 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

welcome to western civilization dude

Franklin = birthplace of Miley Cyrus iirc.

Young white people are so fucking awesome at controlling the narrative

― upright shitizen's brigade (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, November 18, 2011 11:26 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

WAKE UP SHEEPLE

they listen to ipods AND vinyl!!

they buy new AND used clothing!!

nah hoos you are missing the paradigm shift from old white peoples to young white peoples

Most of them are in the 99% but some of them are in the 1%

they are high-powered entrepreneurs AND they work menial jobs!!

these threads are always a good excuse for

http://dustinland.com/dlands/dland.hipster.jpg

BUT WHAT IS COOLER THAN A UNICORN

my fave is the gin still dude personally

Where's the crust punk in that lineup?

Must include pizza tattoo on face.

I would reposition TVOTR between Banjo and Bike and then Unicorn before Gin Dude

on the streets of america, people are doing things that are currently popular with their age group

repeat x 5000

relative hipsterdom can only be properly mapped on a 5-dimensional matrix iirc

whats that thing where you can only talk about god by talking about what he is not? that is like hipsters

I know I'm not the first person to listen to dubstep. But I was one of the first...

xpost negative theology?

still dying over "cool-cat snuggle clothes"

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--lQlhH5TY4s/ThPs0m2yZPI/AAAAAAAABkQ/GegBmN61wOo/s1600/David+Brooks.jpg

"They follow indie bands and camp out at Occupy movements. They work as programmers and shop clerks, baristas and bartenders. They are gamers and volunteers, savvy entrepreneurs and out-of-work basement dwellers."

"In negative hipsterology, it is accepted that the hipster is ineffable, an abstract experience that can only be recognized or remembered—that is, human beings cannot describe in words the essence of the perfect hipster that is unique to the individual, nor can they define the hipster, in its immense complexity, related to the entire field of reality, and therefore all descriptions if attempted will be ultimately false and conceptualization should be avoided; in effect, it eludes definition by definition"

Dying to know who's hipper than a unicorn

lol at the caption to the photo of young people in the middle of the article: "Hipsters like these urban dwellers in the Wicker Park neighborhood of Chicago have now spread to the farthest reaches of small-town America."

Like a rash on our once great nation

every time i try and argue my whole "there's no such thing as a hipster" thing, the reply is usually "that sure sounds like something a hipster would say.."

Better line is 'it's not cool to talk abt hipsters anymore'

http://www.meow.com/product_images/s/691/795_two_kittens_sweatshirt_jade_1164419035_85769000__06277_zoom.jpg

cool-cat snuggle clothes
cool-cat snuggle clothes
cool-cat snuggle clothes
cool-cat snuggle clothes

and let me guess, you listen to cool music that i haven't heard before, don't you??

*eyes you suspiciously*

hmm, those are cool shoes you're wearing

*eyes you suspiciously*

xposts being a contrarian is hip

I am a hipster

MY WAR
YOU'RE ONE OF THEM

lol at the caption to the photo of young people in the middle of the article: "Hipsters like these urban dwellers in the Wicker Park neighborhood of Chicago have now spread to the farthest reaches of small-town America."

RONG those kids have come from the farthest reaches of small-town America

otm

hipper than the unicorn is the guy in the suit from the back of the line

think about it

American Eagle?

― Sally Field hysterically shrieking "Gloria fucking SWANSON!!!" (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, November 18, 2011 11:16 AM

http://graphics4.racingteam.com/l_EagleCrying272x200.jpg

think about it

― dogs, Friday, November 18, 2011 12:38 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

*_*

look closely, it's Ian Svenonius

whats that thing where you can only talk about god by talking about what he is not? that is like hipsters

― max, Friday, November 18, 2011 4:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

proof that god is a hipster

hipsterness is next to godliness

i think god being a hipster would explain a lot. the universe is just one of god's discarded objects of interest, like an abandoned google+ account or something.

i prefer cool-cat snaggle clothes

http://www.portlandmercury.com/imager/snagglepuss/b/original/2576033/4fac/07_drtoon_snagglepuss_jpg-magnum.jpg

I remember this poll. There must be a lot of cyclists and record collectors on ILX.because I refuse to accept that nearly 50% of yall are doofuses

http://www.coolcat.co.uk/images/colourin1.gif

so snuggly

http://www.rubberslug.com/img_show.aspx?ImageID=673437&X=530&Section=Item

The only sentence thing missing from this article is "...they post on the website ILXOR, ..."

Man, that Snagglepuss image makes me feel like it's 2005 and you're Adamrl.

does anyone do Trollies awards at the end of the year?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TOHhLYTUps&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

I lived in Franklin for a bit in 2006. There were no hipsters there. From what I could tell there were no 18-30 year olds. It sucked.

great joke ruined by lack of punchline

i was hoping he wd turn out to be metal

r.i.p. hipsters

good times

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/03/25/BU111NOV5K.DTL

Wheeee, I can't wait for YouTube's hipster-themed channel!

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god I hate the fucking tech industry around here sometimes

god those guys look like the ones in the online dating ads I get ... minus the gray hair, because i am old

The guy at the bottom of the picture is Eric Nies from MTV's The Grind, maybe.

The guy at the bottom looks at least 10 years too old to be dressing like that.

Which is not to say that I approve of someone 10 years younger dressing like that.

there are no more h1psters

St. Patrick chased them all into the ocean.

Fine says he tries not to worry too much about the way his shows - or his hipster identity - are perceived.

"Hipster or no hipster, the only sure thing is that we're all going to perish," he said. "And so we better have some fun and not care too much about what people call us."

is there a single less hipster sentence in the english language

The guy at the bottom of the picture is Eric Nies from MTV's The Grind, maybe.

he looks nothing like eric nies lol wtf

they all look the same to me

h8 plaid shirts so much

not even a hipster looks good with brand new sneakers on

Is it hipster to be really unnaturally clean right now? wtf

http://www.austinkleon.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/hipsters.jpg

my old roomate is working with youtube on a channel thats probably the polar opposite of this one - a dance/choreography centric channel

Those guys are just nerds.

think I recall someone saying Pomplamoose reminded them more of grown-up ska kids... kind of the sense I get from these guys. two of them are even making ska poses

http://www.relix.com/images/2010/07/08/22878/bsi_relix61-300x.gif

“techno pink,” “lemonade” and “denim,” aimed at “a 23-year-old who shops at H&M and Target and listens to Wale with Beats headphones,”
“techno pink,” “lemonade” and “denim,” aimed at “a 23-year-old who shops at H&M and Target and listens to Wale with Beats headphones,”
“techno pink,” “lemonade” and “denim,” aimed at “a 23-year-old who shops at H&M and Target and listens to Wale with Beats headphones,”
“techno pink,” “lemonade” and “denim,” aimed at “a 23-year-old who shops at H&M and Target and listens to Wale with Beats headphones,”
“techno pink,” “lemonade” and “denim,” aimed at “a 23-year-old who shops at H&M and Target and listens to Wale with Beats headphones,”
“techno pink,” “lemonade” and “denim,” aimed at “a 23-year-old who shops at H&M and Target and listens to Wale with Beats headphones,”

Could a definition be...someone 25 or older who dresses like a cool 16 year old but has the knowledge and experience of someone their actual age

That's missing something

It's got at least one superfluous 'cool'

superfluous cool is a pretty good definition

Cool doesn't exist anymore

vat ist kool

baby don't hurt me

people are too demoralized to be hipsters now. to be cool you need style, verve, ironic detachment, and there is no one like that now. everyone just argues.

a hipster is someone with the coolest car in town. they snap their fingers and point all the time, and keep a pack of cigs rolled up in their sleeve. they enlist in the military on the first day of new wars because they're natural leaders, and they're great at dancing.

knock on their bedroom door and they'll be in there smoking while fixing a motorcycle

I enlisted in 1999 - just like I was making my own EDM when they still called it Techno

a hipster is like the first guy on your block to know when the cows are ovulating and he's always got the lowdown on the hot new grain siloes

Not even the Fonz kept his motorcycle in his bedroom.

Once this middle-aged narrator was flying around the estate on a kick scooter like some unstoppable hipster panther, from a passing taxi a young lady shouted "Gangster!" at me with an outreached fist, with no trace at all of ironic ridicule.

But nothing is sweeter than to occupy a lofty sanctuary of the mind,
Well fortified with the teachings of the wise,
Where we may look down on others as they stumble along,
Vainly searching for the true path of life

Lucretius, foremost Roman Latin hipster

all those classical philosopher guys were hipsters

Ehipster

sure you're not thinking of Enchiridion Over the Sea

ha that Lucretius quote is dope

Are you an ex-hipster?

I was the first

I drafted in your wake

This is a tough one for me, I'm honestly not sure if i am or (more likely) was a hipster.
In the narrower sense of skinny jeans + ukuleles + ironic facial hair + sufjan stevens or w/e, then no.

I don't think i ever had the right kind of mojo or something.

whiney said i was never a hipster.

that Lamp line about coke use if you're over 30 and wanna play the hipster game has haunted me for almost a decade now.

Ppl say others have ironic facial hair but it's more accurately labeled coincidental facial hair

I was probably too old/steadily-employed/suburban to be a hipster but I was definitely hipster-curious.

Hip injury pic.twitter.com/hZMBvRHc3I

— Olaf Falafel (@OFalafel) December 30, 2020

Ok, definitely not a hipster, lol.

people are too demoralized to be hipsters now. to be cool you need style, verve, ironic detachment, and there is no one like that now. everyone just argues.

― Treeship, Monday, 10 April 2017 02:18 (three years ago) link

Still true. The current cultural conditions don’t leave space for anyone to be cool.

This reminds me of a book I received as a gift last year called Twee, by Mark Spitz, published in 2014. He takes a very loose definition of twee as an umbrella term covering hipsters, organic farmer's markets, indie music, etc. Reading it just five years after it was published, the complacency was astounding: "with Obama as president, we've solved all those social problems of the last millennium. Now, we can focus on curating our K Records and Postcard discographies, collecting Wes Anderson DVDs, etc".

It's a decent overview of the products of "twee culture", but trying to sell this culture as "the new revolution" looks spectacularly non-prophetic.

https://static.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2012/07/spitz_a.jpg

multiple twee-style champion

I truly don't even remember when hipsters were

They were a category of "brooklyn" preset skins you could choose if you didn't want to customize your character

Sorry, Twee by Marc Spitz, with a C.

Like if you went duck hunting in the Gowanus canal you could wear one as camouflage and be completely invisible.

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Sorry, Twee by Marc Spitz, with a C.

― Halfway there but for you,

Local bookstore had a ton of these remaindered, couldn't give them away

In the sense of "extra on Portlandia", no.

In the sense of "Too cool to live, let alone, like, shop at The Gap."
"Was into things before they caught on" - probably as a teenager.

Gonna say I'm an ex-teenager.

Hipsters are low cut trousers amirite.
That or 40s opportunists hanging around the jazz scene.

Not eejits with wacky moustaches and truck driver hats.
Does the current crop update it's trends with as great frequency. Did it ever become hip to be a recluse. Or would that just be opportunistic this year.

I was Hipster #1 in Park Slope, so I've been told

“Actually, I consider myself hipster-adjacent”

Lol, Josefa.