Fancy a pint, London? (Geeta in London - Oct 27 2013 dudes)

We've not done it in a while, and there are lots of new Londoners, so why not. Next couple of weeks maybe, somewhere central. Anyone up for it?

Yes!

Gaggin' for a pint here

ah go on then.

let's do it!

i'd be up for one of these today! this afternoon! omg thank u weather gods for bringing summer back like travis porter on a day in which i have legit nothing to have to do

(am still in bed)

sounds good

i'm in

Would love to.

moi aussi

How is next week looking for people? Maybe Tuesday or Wednesday? Or midweek the following week?

It's my birthday mid-week next week so I think I'll be a bit busy. Thursday 13th isn't bad for me.

My parents get here next Thurs so before that would be good for me, i.e. Tues? If dl can do it, of course

can't do tuesday because i'm in ibiza (!)

i could do later that week although i will probably be a shell of a man

http://www.doodle.com/ is handy for this sort of thing

Yes! I love that thing. Will make an event up, people put in which days they can make and we'll go with the majority. (Unless I can't make it in which case tough shit).

http://www.doodle.com/ainte6dtqxtty299

^^^ Here you go, just tick in whichever days you can make and stick yer ILX name in there and we'll work out a date.

http://whenshouldwe.com/ is what i use!

I've ticked Tuesday 11th but I'm doing an exciting journalistic interview (my first official one!) in the early eve - should be able to make it down after (roughly 8 o'clock I think).

ticked; though 5 oct is pending how long i need to stay at tory conference

19th is totes winning

damn i look like mr no commitments billy no mates. i got plenty of stuff i could be doing, plenty.

Wednesday 19th is looking excellent so far...

Looks like we choose between Lex and Stevie T
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Oh well, no contest then <---- joke

having university business in evenings is a reet pain. what kind of time are you all thinking for these?

They tend to go from 'just after work' until 'when people fall over'.

So... no Friday option? (Not that I'm likely to come anyway, what with working several evenings and childcare commitments)

Great idea Matt. Tuesday and Wednesday preferable despite the likelihood of a CL clash.

I can probably do the 19th with sufficient notice.

They tend to go from 'just after work' until 'when people fall over'.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:05 (37 minutes ago

i can get with that. i probably wouldn't be able to make it until somewhere between 9 and 10 on that wednesday where everyone's free, but some hasty strong drinks to catch me up would see me fine for the remainder of the night i'm sure.

wednesday 19th looks totally go - we may need to book a pub. is stevem still around to book ahead?

phone ahead

They tend to go from 'just after work' until 'when people fall over'.

i have always hated the "just after work" aspect of these. i still can't believe anyone a) leaves work as early as 5pm b) goes straight to the pub. TOO EARLY, SO WRONG, MAKES IT FEEL LIKE WORK DRINKS. i cannot be in a pub for evening weekday drinking earlier than 8pm.

I'm down for this and free as of 7:30ish any day of the week (and on weekends I'm free as of 6:30ish).

I leave work at 5.30 and don't live in London so personally I'm prob be wherever it is we're meeting fairly early on.

As a long time lurker/occasional poster, I'd like to come along, but am off to see Active Child on the 19th in somewhere near Euston. Could probably make it along for a drink before the gig though

i have always hated the "just after work" aspect of these. i still can't believe anyone a) leaves work as early as 5pm b) goes straight to the pub. TOO EARLY, SO WRONG, MAKES IT FEEL LIKE WORK DRINKS. i cannot be in a pub for evening weekday drinking earlier than 8pm.

― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:41 (Yesterday) Bookmark

ilx drinking is pretty much work drinks

i mean you spend most of your working hours on ilx afterall

I with lex - I mean, i gotta eat and no i don't mean dirty chicken

That said, on a nice day....

can always check the london restaurants thread for inspiration

damn i look like mr no commitments billy no mates. i got plenty of stuff i could be doing, plenty.

― ledge, Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:56 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

pretty sure you already invited me to something on 17th oct...

i have always hated the "just after work" aspect of these. i still can't believe anyone a) leaves work as early as 5pm b) goes straight to the pub. TOO EARLY, SO WRONG, MAKES IT FEEL LIKE WORK DRINKS. i cannot be in a pub for evening weekday drinking earlier than 8pm

Good reasons for this:

- Going home and back after work is a pain in the arse for a lot of people
- Also pointless
- Some people have to head home early so want to arrive early
- People might want to hang out with those people who need to leave early

Also I love how your post implies no problem with the falling over bit.

I'm unlikely to be in the pub before 6.30 or so at any rate. Although I might favour a pub that serves food.

pub in the Euston-ish area, Weds 19th, then?

pretty spoilt for choice - the Euston Tap might be too little, but there's the bree louise (beer!), the exmouth arms (universal jukebox!), the square tavern (estate pub!), the doric arch (um)...

Or do we want to be classic and go for a Sam Smith's (of which none nr euston iirc), in which case maybe somewhere like the Yorkshire Grey or the Fitzroy Tavern?

xxxp god my calendar management skills are so poor

If you're stuck for a point of difference for the Doric I would suggest 'view over the bus station' and 'annoying code thing on the toilet doors'. No thanks.

oh, that view over the bus station! what sight brings us closer to our shared humanity than strangers queuing for the 30 to hackney wick?

Some people go early to a pub

Some people go late.

Some people go early and stay all night...

what about the norfolk arms? food there was great last time i went

i think it's actually more the "leave work at 5pm" thing that makes me boggle. so early!

The first time I went into the Norfolk Arms the food was amazing but I went again recently and it's gone rapidly downhill.

I'm sort of a hater of Euston pubs and Euston in general, although I haven't been in the Exmouth Arms. The Bree Louise is great but I'm not sure what it's like on a weeknight, or whether it's FAP-friendly.

Would Bloomsbury or Kings Cross be in contention?

(also the norfolk arms does tapas-style food as well as proper dishes, which is handy for things like this)

It's a bit gastro though isn't it? I never thought of it as the sort of place where people just go for a few beers.

the norfolk arms is barely a pub, there are better places to go on judd street alone.

(if we go somewhere on judd street i am so going for szechuan first)

well if you want food gastro is the way to go...

if everyone wants food, and if everyone's comfortable paying over £10 for something they could probably make at home (unless they're you), sure.

i have always hated the "just after work" aspect of these. i still can't believe anyone a) leaves work as early as 5pm b) goes straight to the pub. TOO EARLY, SO WRONG, MAKES IT FEEL LIKE WORK DRINKS. i cannot be in a pub for evening weekday drinking earlier than 8pm

Can't figure what is wrong with going to the pub straight after work (although I finish around 6pm not 5pm) but that might say more about my bad habits than anything else.

i don't really think you can go to a gastropub in a large group, or for a session of shifting numbers over quite a long time?

something they could probably make at home

is this yr thinking on gastro food in general? i know i couldn't. and even if i could, damn i'd be willing to pay someone else to do all the hard work.

A really good gastropub will usually be serving things you can't easily make at home. Not sure the Norfolk Arms counts as a really good gastropub any more, and in any case they're really not suitable for FAPs at all.

ledge, depends on the place - a really good gastropub will obviously be over my skill/imagination/sourcing level. but middling gastropub food is just so... middling! (but then i am 1. cheap 2. grumpy 3. brought up by good cooks 4. turning into my dad.)

Kings Cross / Euston is perfect for me.

Would prefer, as Matt, somewhere a bit further South like Bloomsbury (or Fitzrovia).

But not really fussed tbh, just don't like the areas around train stations.

i guess yr right about middling gastropubs but they're still light years better foodwise than yer average chain pub.

anyway totally up for pre-pub szechuan...

The Calthorpe Arms on Gray's Inn Road has usually served us pretty well in the past.

Also what's the Queens Head in King's Cross like? Always looks great when I walk past, might be a bit small or busy for a biggish gathering.

There's not been an official ILX fap for, how long?

"food you can make at home" is not a concept i comprehend. gastropubs tend not to serve breakfast cereal which is my limit.

what about the pakenham? that has the advantage of space, which is the #1 factor in what makes a pub good for me.

Good shout imo. Thinking about it I retract my earlier generalisation, as there are perfectly nice pubs in Kings Cross / Euston.

I am down with the Pakenham actually, it's easy to get a big group together there. Also there'll be football on the telly but non-intrusively.

Also I want to try the meatball place that's just opened in the old Quality Chop House on Farringdon Road, so that might be good for pre-pub food.

but non-intrusively.

hope so... Not that I have a problem with people enjoying the football, but I'm one of those people who gets really distracted by TV in pubs, even if it's something I'm not remotely interested in. It's a kind of magpie reflex. I'll try to ignore it :-)

don't think the doric arch is as awful as people make it out to be. the code thing is anonying i suppose.

euston tap nice drinks but we'd have to sit in that upstairs bit with no window.

norfolk arms is ok tried the tapas didn't blow my mind. maybe we can all go to chilli cool for steamboat/hotpot (left hand side entrance)?

lord john russell is alright but expensive beers.

the prince arthur on eversholt st is also alright.. table service may put people off though (i love it)

square tavern you'll get a seat but are young's pubs expensive or are they expensive?

they've done up prince of wales' feathers now it's poncey

personally i think it's not a FAP if it's not at a samuel smith's and particularly glasshouse stores

pakenham.. bit of a walk....

wow i'm so negative about pubs today.

most pubs in central aren't great tbh, the only ones i'm really attached to are the ones in localities

you're too positive about the prince arthur! table service is the worst.

table service in a pub, really?!

i've no opinion on that but a mad bar crush that you have to fight your way to the front of and then try to catch the eyes of dickhead bar staff intent on ignoring you and it takes 45 mins just to get a drink are the actual worst

oh god i was in the founders arms at bankside last night, queue for the bar was six deep all night long. it has a massive seating area and the bar is *far* too small to cope, would be a decent pub otherwise.

Generally speaking a good pub in Zone 2 or 3 will be better than a good pub in Zone 1, but Zone 1 pubs need to fill slightly different criteria. If you transported most of these pubs we're talking about to Highbury or Hackney or Greenwich or somewhere they'd be fine.

Actually one of the reasons I like places like the Calthorpe and the Pakenham and so forth is that they feel quite local despite being close to the centre of town.

i enjoy drinking so any pubs that minimises my need to be away from the table and maximise my time when i'm putting drinks down my throat is good in my books.

i'll happily drink in any of those pubs btw. for the above reason.

it happens EVERYWHERE, at labour conference exactly the same thing happened and i reflected on the oddity of being reminded so much of music festival experiences in that situation. i've never had table service in a pub and the idea seems bizarre but it can only improve the situation tbh

hence most important criteria for central pubs = relatively quiet. can't be doing with the sardine-like ones.

The main problem with table service in pubs, especially in the Prince Arthur, is that they only come round irregularly, and never when you want them to. And there's a huge gap between ordering the drink and actually getting it. And if you're impatient and try to go to the bar then it's even harder to get served because they're dealing with table service orders.

Britain is rubbish at adopting continental things.

how about the phoenix theatre bar? (have to arrive before 8 though)

hence most important criteria for central pubs = relatively quiet. can't be doing with the sardine-like ones.

but what about the ATMOSPHERE

(fuck an atmosphere imo)

i can create my own damn atmosphere with the right people and sufficient ease of acquiring drinks and sufficient comfort in which to drink them

also fuck fetishising pubs that sell 9494394843 types of real ale and one mangy type of wine

You'd don't need to be particularly crowded to be atmospheric though. Quite the opposite sometimes.

Most important for me in a pub is my ears - I can't hardly hear over a hubbub, so sardine-like pubs are something of a solitary experience (not that I'll be attending, like).

Yeah it's amazing how many pubs pay attention to everything except acoustics. A crowded pub can be fine if you can hear the people you're talking to, but those big high-ceilinged places tend to be echo chambers for background noise so you can only hear the person you're right next to.

too-loud music is the worst offender for that, i've found. pubs tryna be clubs :(

also fuck fetishising pubs that sell 9494394843 types of real ale and one mangy type of wine

does the pakenham have good wine? that's a thing worth knowing.

too-loud music is the worst offender for that, i've found. pubs tryna be clubs :(

yes, the whole thing of gradually turning the volume up and up as the evening goes on so that you can't hear anybody's chat in order to "raise the atmosphere" i.e. if you're over 25 eff off grandad you are not our demographic.

as long as the queue isn't too intense, i quite like the chance to get up and order from the bar. it gives me a little break, gives my legs a stretch and also i find the idea of table service in a pub a bit weird, like I don't need the subservience of the restaurant experience or something?

Most important for me in a pub is my ears - I can't hardly hear over a hubbub, so sardine-like pubs are something of a solitary experience (not that I'll be attending, like).

― Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 September 2011 11:13 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah it's amazing how many pubs pay attention to everything except acoustics. A crowded pub can be fine if you can hear the people you're talking to, but those big high-ceilinged places tend to be echo chambers for background noise so you can only hear the person you're right next to.

― Matt DC, Friday, 30 September 2011 11:14 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

Oh god, there's an otherwise lovely place in Hitchin with a low ceiling, big glass windows and cold hard flooring. I object to going there because all I can hear is the screech of chairs and bar stools scraping and echoing around the place. Plus in the summer it gets like a greenhouse. Shame really - the people there are nice and they serve decent drinks.

went to norfolk arms on sunday actually it's a nice place to sit outside on a sunny day and food is good but pricey. i think we should just go to a more traditional pub tho eating is cheating etc

oh i went to chilli cool too ....it's pretty good but i prefer gourmet san/my old place

sitting outside - may as well get cans and sit in the park?

Except it's October and it'll be dark by 7.30.

don't remind me ;_;

Outside drinkers = beasts of the field

― Tim (Tim), Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:30 AM (8 years ago) Bookmark

how about.... the lexington?

- too far into angel? (but closer by public transport distance to town than pakenham if not geographically)
- not sure if it's loud on a wednesday
- drinks aren't cheap

Full of wankers? I don't know but I would assume because it's kinda famous these days it would be.

Apparently the Pakenham now allows you to order a 9-gallon firkin of beer for your own table o_O

Thing about the Lexington is that unless you're lucky you get spread out on a load of tables with a lot of space in between them. Might be a bit busy in midweek anyway.

It's amazing the post ever gets delivered at all (xp)

i'd actually suggest trying local zone 2 pubs tbh. everything's pretty interconnected, it's going down the pub on a weekday so it's not like you'll be staying past the last tube anyway, i've had good evenings in local pubs (that aren't my own locality) (though those too obv) and as established they're pretty much all better.

my own new local, for instance :D

http://fancyapint.com/Pub/london/the-elderfield-ex-the-eclipse/2587

The cheapest, most cheerful pub in Kings Cross as far as I know is the Thornhill Arms - pub grub for about £3-£5 etc. Might not be that great for our needs though.

I was waiting for someone to suggest a Hackney pub that would be a ridiculous trek for everyone who lives outside East London.

"Everything's pretty interconnected, it's easy to get around, how about we do this in the pub RIGHT NEXT TO MY HOUSE".

well i was just getting in there first! but i wouldn't object to eg that pb we went to for cis's birthday in the wilds of n london, either. that was far away but not hard to get to/from

I haven't been to a FAP since 2005. I'm quite excited. Last time it was in the KLF pub but that's closed now.

let's buy the lord cecil and instal a goat -- then i will only have to walk 100 yards home AND make cheese at the weekend

Y'all are welcome to come to Hitchin, of course.

Pub goat would have potentially disastrous consequences for people's outdoor clothing though.

Take my wife, please (xp)

LOL, that didn't work because you said you are welcome to come to Hitchin

I'm not sure I get that one, Tom.

There's only one way to decide this <s>FITE!</s> <s>FAP-steering committee</s> POLL: Fancy a London pub?

Believe me, it's not worth getting (xp)

After all these years bbcode still defeats me :/

i have always hated the "just after work" aspect of these. i still can't believe anyone a) leaves work as early as 5pm b) goes straight to the pub. TOO EARLY, SO WRONG, MAKES IT FEEL LIKE WORK DRINKS. i cannot be in a pub for evening weekday drinking earlier than 8pm.

i'd actually suggest trying local zone 2 pubs tbh. everything's pretty interconnected, it's going down the pub on a weekday so it's not like you'll be staying past the last tube anyway

not sure why we're having this great long discussion about which pub.. since we're only going to be there for a couple of hours anyway

Yes, but people need to know which one, rather than trust to coincidence.

isn't the pakenham still open until like 2am? staying out past the last tube isn't always intentional...

Yes, to lots of posts on this thread. Noise: I usually can't make out what anyone's saying unless they're right next to me, so I usually resort to grinning and nodding a lot and hoping that's an appropriate response. Table Service in pubs: terrible idea (for all the reasons already mentioned). This was the norm in Italy when I lived there and you could easily end up waiting half an hour between arriving and getting your first drink - not a problem for most Italians (who would only have one drink all evening), but infuriating for me. I once tried going to the bar and asking if I could have a drink while I was waiting for my drink, but was informed that this wasn't the done thing.

Ha, that's some classic British behaviour - regardless of circumstance, still got to get those eight pints in. My pal could never understand that rounds were a no-no too - he'd always make a point of being first up, spend £20 or whatever, then be annoyed all evening because everyone took it as an eccentric, extravagant gift, and he still had to keep on buying his own drinks.

I've been burnt by getting a round in the US as well, especially cos the 2 people I was with both got a shot of $18 tequila.

Want to come and see you all but I have to go to fucking India on tuesday.

So did this/is the happening?

*is this. (not that I'd be willing to leave the house at this point).

I believe there are some people at the Pakenham although ILX being down has probably ensured it's a very small turnout.

Forgot which venue triumphed in the poll and took a chance on Hitchin. Unwise, I realise now.

This is happening. There are 9 of us here...

matt's inevitable non-appearance at a FAP he proposed = it was not quite double figures THANKS TO MATT thank you matt

we explained kipling, keats and kernow WHAT ELSE EVEN IS THERE?

yo dudes! i get to london on nov 2 -- i'll be there til nov 10

we should do another FAP around then

NOT IN MY FLAT

just sayin

(actually it can be if you tidy up nicely)

ilx being down fucked this for me...needed reminding to plan. but hope it went well.

I enjoyed this. felt Kipling - omg most important subject in universe - was prolly less interesting than I found it but was nice to have drinks and see v nice people. also drink. I came direct from a work do and really it was like Christ finally I can BREATHE.

had very good time. i am sorry i did not circulate and converse more but yknow kipling talk demands attn.

ronan you are a born-tho-the-purple media prince in the 21st century, plz to pay attention to social media 3.0, THERE WAS NO EXCUSE

oh i forgot this. steamed a chicken and studied ITIL instead.

good time?

ah i assumed that the ilx downtime had scuppered this. tho i ended up occupied anyway. so, everyone at mark s's flat on say, nov 7th?

sounds good

some day i'll make one of these

O_o

o_O

I call for a mulligan on this.

I blame technology foiling my plans to be sociable again. Hopefully will make it to one of these soon.

Yeah sorry about that Mark, I'm in the worst combination of knackered and busy at the moment and decided to just go home and slump in the end.

Geeta-in-London FAP sounds like a plan though.

Time for more doodle action?

torn between mark s's house, lex's house and hitchin

hitchin's lovely btw.

So is the FAP going to be reconsidered? I will be in London on the 26th of this month to the 23rd of October, but during that time I was thinking of visiting Ireland for a while…

are you a time traveller?

http://www.lovingmystuff.co.uk/UploadedImages/006b.jpg
I will be in London on the 26th of this month to the 23rd of October, but during that time I was thinking of visiting Ireland for a while… don't blink

Oops, been reading too much of that 'Time Travel in Popular Movies' site lately. Leaving in November

Not the first time on ILX I have been likened to David Tennant (that's him yeah?)… even have a similar suit.

Geeta-in-London FAP sounds like a plan though.

Yeah! I was ill so i couldn't have gone to yesterday's FAP... well, i could have but I wouldn't have been able to drink so fuck that for a game of soldiers... hello S-!

Not the first time

was going to say "that actually looks like S- tbh"

where is this Pakenham place?

I will go to Geeta's FAP if I can.

I'm sure you've been in the Pakenham before, but maybe not

it's a wine bar, so probably not

The Pakenham is behind the big Mount Pleasant post office in Clerkenwell. It's opposite the Union Tavern, where Poptimism used to be.

geeta in london!

i would go to a new ldn FAP, was sorry i couldn't make this one (meetings and teaching committments, bah)

Sorry I didn't make this - defo up for another one if it's happening!

pf you've definitely been in the calthorpe which is one pub away

were you in hitchin? xpost

yeah. i had an assignment.

This was great - so nice to see ppl I hadn't in, well, years I suppose.

So any FAP ideas in the next few weeks or so? Want to visit Manchester, Brighton, and Ireland, but would also be interested in attending a FAP; even if it is just myself and Tom D. again.

remember geeta is in london next week! (tho i am not)

We could try and co-ordinate something where S-, mark s and geeta are about. How about Monday 7th/Tuesday 8th?

Monday 7th or Tuesday 8th are both good for me!

anyone else too? Matt mentioned 'lots of new londoners' but my posting is limited so I've no idea who that might mean :-) xp = good stuff

i'm in shropshire till 19 nov, julio

oops ok

I could possibly make the Monday.

monday 7th might actually suit me, unexpectedly (so long as ppl keep me from drinking too much as i've a presentation the naxt day)

monday 7th not the best for me as have big work d-day on the 8th. tho on reflection maybe it won't require me to do anything differently to the manner in which i currently do it, ie quickly and accurately with occasional private personal lols which also work as innocuously suitable headlines.

we can crowdsource your work project

monday 7th is good by me. yeah we can help you with your work project! or we can meet near where you live

Monday 7th looking good for me too

Will be in Manchester on the 7th, will be back to London at 5pm on the 8th though, so would obviously prefer Tuesday the 8th...

Any ilxors in Manchester by the way?

Hey, have changed the title. Monday 7th is good for me.

Geeta wherabouts are you staying? What about maybe somewhere East-leaning but not too inaccessible, like Islington or Shoreditch?

I've got something on the evening of the 7th but would love to pop in early and say hello.

NI and pisces are in MCR sash

afaik

Isn't Geeta staying in Mark S's flat? So East would be fine.

all being well she will be in hackney central, yes

*resuggests the elderfield*

Riot torn Hackney?

wait, isn't it a bit silly to do the 7th if S can't make it?

Dunno - thought Geeta suggested the 7th? 8th is also fine with me.

8th is better. Tuesday's more of a pub night.

(means I can go to the pub on the 7th too)

someone should make a doodle calendar, it is the only way

(not me, i have to go out now)

Can't really do the 8th :-(

8th or 9th? Monday is shite for going out, no?

I guess I could cancel my plans for the 8th at a push, but it'll piss people off.

Also will likely be staying in Hackney-Wick, so NE is good for me (unless it's on the 7th)

Actual proper Hackney is a massive pain in the arse for me to get from on a weeknight but somewhere on the ELL is a lot better.

Any objections in principle to somewhere like Mason & Taylor on Bethnal Green Road?

M&T is an easy step from mine (one bus ride, more than one relevant bus): as is the ELL generally.

I thought you were in Shropshire?

i am but geeta will be at mine, unless you are planning to stage this geetameet w/o her

It's possible! There might be an S-meet with no S- after all.

Thinking we should just do this on the 8th...

ooh if we do M&T would anyone be up for eating? last time i was there (which was also the first) i didn't realise the food was so good and ate before i came out

(this is assuming i can make it, which, I HAVE NO IDEA, why must my entire life be a last-minute affair)

Yeah I'd be up for that, the food is good there (although be warned last time I visited the small plates had doubled in size).

I've walked passed there, easy for me to get to/from, but it's more of a food joint than a pub, yeah?

ok xpost

poor S-

It's a bar really that also serves food, not really a restaurant.

M&T sounds good to me too (have been meaning to go for ages).

yeah quite like to go there - 7th or 8th is ok, just not the 9th.

M&T is a nice place have fun guys (can't make it)

Still think a real FAP should be at glasshouse stores though.

never tried the food though there's salt beef bagels round the corner innit.

Walking distance from my work... so no point in me going home first, is there? Recipe for being thoroughly pished then.

thx for rearranging the date guys.

What time? Might be coming straight from a 4.5 hour Megabus trip from Manchester...

so this is the 8th now?

I like M&T; was going to use it for the book launch but for various reasons beyond anybody’s control that never happened. Won’t be able to make it but have a good time those who can.

Also Tim H of this parish is the guvnor there.

nice to hear you still have FAPs. Maybe one day when I am in London I will go to one again.

Also Tim H of this parish is the guvnor there.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 15:56 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i did not know this

I heartily recommend M&T for food and drinks. Popped in last time we were in London on the recommendation of Tim H (who is some sort of back-of-house guvnor), it's a great place. Also turned out I knew about half the people there, which is always a good thing somewhere you don't actually live, it was old-ilx central that night.

and thanx to the ELL and bein walkable from liverpool street, it's as reachable from all points of the three cities of london as anywhere, really

am up for some tuesday night M&T affair.

eeeeeyow - geeta here and it looks like the 8th is the way forward

Can't make the 8th...ah well, Christmas FAP next month?

yes 8th is good!!

somewhere east-leaning is good too

haha i just woke up from a dream that there'd been a hitch: to get into my flat geeta had had to track own ex-ilxor norman phay, who was running a secret radioshow somewhere in hackney*, with special guest BILL NELSON, who was demonstrating his new synth, which is made of wood. To introduce him, norman played a bebop deluxe cover of lene lovich's "lucky number".

*By the viaduct. Everything happens by the viaduct in my dreams. This must be important, I have never lived anywhere near one.

Hmm...must be a first, a fap at an ilxor's actual place of work?

and thanx to the ELL and bein walkable from liverpool street, it's as reachable from all points of the three cities of london as anywhere, really

Yeah it now takes me like 25mins to get home from there now.

I think we should make this M&T seeing as reaction seems to be largely positive. Has aweseome beer as well. Might chat to Tim about getting one of the bigger tables reserved as well.

I should be up for this, M&T looks to be near a 48 bus stop so easy for me to get home, only thing is I have a leaving do to go to after work, and this worries me slightly because last time I went to a FAP I also had a leaving do before it and I was slaughtered by the end of it and got lost on my way home! I think I can stumble to the 48 though.

chatting to Tim = dangerous phoning-ahead territory imo

i have just realised that coming to this FAP will leave me in the right town for the march the next day! it's fate :D

good pre-FAP anti-slaughter practice is to get a nice beigel in nearby brick lane and wander through the market as you scoff it and it tidies itself up, allowing the lads outside the indian restaurants to try and entice you inside

Dangerous phoning ahead territory may be necessary in this case as parts of the bar aren't particularly large-group friendly, especially if the downstairs is closed.

(oops, sub's note to writers: don't use "it" twice in three words to refer to two different nouns)

last time I went to a FAP I also had a leaving do before it and I was slaughtered by the end of it and got lost on my way home!

I blame that Gamaliel fellow. How we've never FAPped in this Mason + Taylor place before?

How come, even, already

Distinct lack of recent FAPS? It's not been open long (in its present form). Also: before the ELL it seemed a bit out of the way.

Yeah it only opened in January.

chatting to Tim = dangerous phoning-ahead territory imo

In this case the venue phones ahead to you - I've arranged for a space to be set aside for you lot. Not sure I'll be able to make it, I will if I can.

i now have a working phone! tracer has my number.

see you guys on tuesday, if not before!

I blame that Gamaliel fellow. How come we've never FAPped in this Mason + Taylor place before?

Oh god yes, never been quite right after that FAP. Steer clear of the Spanish bar and I must on no account smoke.

if you guys head to spanish bar afterwards call me.......

What's Spanish Bar? Got introduced to the Dolphin in Hackney for late night boozing last night.

i fell asleep in dolphin this place is super awful

ha ha the spanish bar!!

i have some old-school ilx memories circa 10 years ago, about the spanish bar

with or without the hairy man?

ha! you know, i don't remember!

i'm one of the aforementioned new londoners and i should be able to make this! i am new to FAPing but i believe i am capable of drinking.

I too do hope to make this, though I have to shepherd my parents around london this week. Also, do we have a time frame for this?

Unless things go a bit crazy and I am late I'm gonna start drinking from around 5.30. I'll have a paperback on my table (or reading it if I'm on my own)...

Is this happening in the basement or ground floor bar?

One day I will make it to this Spanish bar...

v.sorry i will miss all my hackney-ilxor neighbours -- this house is empty and lonely, only the ghosts of old family pets to pass the time with

M&T is nowhere near the Spanish Bar sadly, although if a FAP were to end up there at some point that would surely cement this old-skool revival we've been having recently.

is anyone still in contact with gareth? can we convince him to be there on tuesday? i haven't seen him in ages.

it's pretty hard to convince him to do anything, but i might give it a try

i'm fairly sure gareth has read this thread but pinning him down to a commitment is as elusive as ever!

occupy Geezers Kiosk

to get into my flat geeta had had to track down ex-ilxor norman phay, who was running a secret radioshow somewhere in hackney*, with special guest BILL NELSON, who was demonstrating his new synth, which is made of wood. To introduce him, norman played a bebop deluxe cover of lene lovich's "lucky number".

ha ha what happened to norman? i miss him!

ok london GET PSYCHED

i should be there by 7 pm

lol have a nice evening all!

Bump.

people who want food, when are you aiming to get there by?

I've had about 3 hours sleep and have also managed to pull something in my back, so I'm not really feeling brilliant about coming out tonight. That said, I've been looking forward to this so will try and make it down. I finish work in Kings X at 5:30pm and then I've got no choice but to kick around. Will anyone be around as early as 6:30ish?

I guess I'm going to this, and I guess I'll go for like, 7?

Will anyone be around as early as 6:30ish?

I work five minutes from it, so I imagine I'll be there early

Cool. Unless I'm dragging myself along by the lips by the end of the afternoon I'll try and be there (where is it again? Sorry, I'm Londonslexic). I look and feel like a dog's dinner today btw.

It's at Mason & Taylor at the Shoreditch end of Bethnal Green Road. Nearest station = Shoreditch High Street.

Will be there around 7ish I think.

cool cool.

I have given 5 lectures today => I am looking forward to this. How to school teachers do it? Should be there around 7, too.

So I've forgotten what the etiquette is here - do I say "Hello, I'm Charlie" or "Hello I'm Dog Latin"? The latter would be weird but the former might be less insightful.

Anyway, see you guys in about an hour or so. Looking forward to it!

I intend saying "Hello, I'm Charlie", even though it's not my name

I plan on saying "Hello, I'm Dog Latin", it's less embarrassing that way

cannot come to this after all because work - hope you guys have a lovely time!

who's going to pay later? and how much are you going to tip?@

(have fun)

Someone pretend to be me please. And tell me later about my obnoxious drunken behaviour.

yeah I've found myself too busy too, and also plagued by the thought of introducing myself as ol' shiteyes here. Have fun!

I'll still be in the office for some time :/

It was a pleasure to meet you Ilx London division, and yet so fleeting. Let's do it again some time, eh?

did u guys drink with the s-doggie

did the s-doggie get a round in

I'm just wondering if the S-dog and the G-dog got back home OK cos I am shit at public transport, I think I left them in the right spot but I am kinda notorious for fucking this up....

when i fapped in ldn starry and gar3th put me on a bus in the wrong direction

Haha S- said you said I put you on the wrong bus! tbh I put myself on the wrong bus all the time, so I believed it

that was fun, sorry i didn't get to meet everyone. Bubble and squeak is going to be my new thing now, too.

Would M+T Fap again.

bah v sorry i missed this :(

That was good! I may have been a little effusive. It's the booze, it does that to a fella.

Pinefox outed himself as the Paul Whitehouse of ILX

I did not get lost on my way home! Result.

stet is in london, now?

It was quite good, yes. It was good to see all those people. I found this slightly moving. I liked to see Colette for instance who surprisingly said she had moved back to England. I met Dog Latin. Three ILB specialists were present which made for an entertaining sort of fap within the fap, it appeared.

The beer was good, expensive and almost all unusually strong.

A great book called THE FOOTBALL MAN was examined and its author's provenance read out loud and then investigated online. Arsenal and Tottenham fans enjoyed their new reconciliation and mutual respect.

I liked to see Geeta and hope to see her again soon. She announced a gig that Mike said he would like to go to.

I asked Mike to name his 5 museum exhibits for the exibition after Postmodernism. They included

an old camera
Peter Eastoe, 1981
Ever Decreasing Circles

That's only 3. I don't recall if there were two more.

The l0u1s jagg3r fellow showed up late which I thought was a good effort. We managed 8 accents from around the British Isles on our way through the East London Line. Then we wound up on a late bus through New Cross. It is odd to encounter such places with other human beings. Maybe we will go to see a Charlton Athletic home match.

I is
XP damn I missed j4gg3r? Boo

The beer was good, expensive and almost all unusually strong.

Yes. I want to die right now.

I did not enjoy the weekly fire alarm test at 10:30 :(

This was great and we should do it again soon. Attempting to explain "bubble and squeak", "toad in the hole" and "scotch eggs" to Geeta was very entertaining, seeing as there was a lot of lolbritish food on the menu. Best ingredient in B&S is clearly the duck egg though.

That was probably the least steady I have ever seen Steady Mike as well.

Mike stated that Everton would finish in the top 8.

Not sure if he now counts that as 'effusive'.

yeah that was lots of fun, fantastic to meet geeta at last! mmm quail eggs duck eggs all the eggs.

i drank a lot of wine but am oddly unfragile and in fact think i may go for a RUN now.

I got absurdly lost on the way home and ended up springing for a cab. The driver was adept at following 'the scenic route' designated for non-locals. Great time though!

I was very proud that I managed to get home with no problems at all, and not being swayed by Colonel Poo's shortcut advice ;-)

So we're all going to see (ILMer) Milton Parker at Cafe Oto tonight, right?

I would love to go to that but, alas, the pull of putting the kids to bed is actually stronger. Can't do two nights out in a row.

I'm in. Meet somewhere first?

Yes, great to see Geeta again.

Had to duck out of Cafe Oto unfortunately. Was fun the one time I saw Milton so have a gd time!

yo dudes i'm back in london soon! i'll be in town for just a few days, starting october 25.

fancy a pint on sunday october 27?

yes!

let's do this!!

I'm in!

yay!

how do we get the thread title changed so that it no longer says 'mason and taylor nov 8'?

Done! (though it doesn't change in bookmarks annoyingly)

dude!!

i should be around for this.

i'd like to come if it's cool

Got a weekend pass for the Rest Is Noise thing @ the Southbank, so will have to check my schedules, but should make it at some point

I'd be up for this - you think Sunday evening here?

oh excellent, had feared this is the weekend i'm out of london but it's not, hopefully will make this

revive!!

As someone who has had many a drink w/geeta, I highly recommend her as a drinking companion!

haha thanks for the endorsement!

also if anyone can host me for a few days in london, let me know...

Raise an honorary glass to the concert if Britten music I'll be singing in that day

Hey Geeta, don't know if anyone got back to you but you're more than welcome to stay with Madchen and me in Peckham if you like!

Looks like I may be in London on Sunday...is there a venue for this here thing?

other than the one in the title? 8)

apologies - bookmark was from last year and stated mason and taylor!

(2011)

TOMORROW!!

where should we meet? what time?!

stevem suggests:

The Lexington tomorrow, 5 pm?

does that work for everyone?

(also thanks stet for the offer of a place to stay! just saw that)

The Lexington! Excellent, can walk to pub.

I've got a Mauricio Kagel film to watch - well, I don't have to watch it but feel that my position as a pretentious obscurantist are demands it - so I will try to come later

By coincidence I'll be at the Lexington this afternoon anyway (gig upstairs) so will say hello for a bit.

That was pretty good fun, with an excellent Dele Fadele cameo appearance! I doubt there will be a better Lou Reed obit than the Lexington sourced one tonight.