Taking Sides: Joan Fontaine vs. Olivia de Havilland

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I discovered today that they're both still alive.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 30 August 2002 22:01 (twenty-three years ago)

I wonder if they ever made up.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 30 August 2002 23:35 (twenty-three years ago)

i choose myrna loy!!!!! she is not alive anymore tho sadly

anyway, carry on

geeta (geeta), Friday, 30 August 2002 23:44 (twenty-three years ago)

haha i once started to write a novel where one of the characters said "myrna loy!!" just like geeta did

it was the only memorable bit, in the sense that it is the only bit i can remember: i have no idea what made her do this (my character i mean, not geeta) (i mean i don't necessarily know why geeta said it either, but i refuse to be held responsible for her) (geeta i mean, not my character) (bed i think)

mark s (mark s), Friday, 30 August 2002 23:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm going with Joan Fontaine - she's so gorgeous and trembling in Rebecca, Toland made her glow.

James Blount, Saturday, 31 August 2002 00:23 (twenty-three years ago)

My answer is Carmen Miranda - any woman who can dance and sing with fruit on her head is tops in my book.

gazza, Saturday, 31 August 2002 00:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Agreed with J. Blount -- nobody does deer-in-the-headlights better than Joan Fontaine (Julia Roberts, eat your heart out). She was also terrific in Letter from an Unknown Woman

Olivia de Havilland always throws me off because I expect her to be olive-complected but no! She gets major points for GWTW, but Joan got much better roles.

felicity (felicity), Saturday, 31 August 2002 00:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Fontaine looks so vulneradorable in Rebecca, too bad the rest of the cast disliked her. de Hav ultimately gets the edge, though; foxy and the better actress.

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 31 August 2002 00:44 (twenty-three years ago)

(They were sisters, you know)

Melissa W (Melissa W), Saturday, 31 August 2002 01:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Olivia for me - Joan always looked puzzled and about to cry, which I never liked.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 31 August 2002 08:50 (twenty-three years ago)

I am disappointed in the lack of responses to this thread.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Monday, 2 September 2002 15:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Well don't blame me.

felicity (felicity), Monday, 2 September 2002 17:57 (twenty-three years ago)

OdH was in Gone With the Wind, the third- or fourth-most overrated movie ever, while Joan was in two '40s Hitchcock classics, so she wins.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 2 September 2002 18:11 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm gonna go with Joan because because i have a thing for her, despite her slightly annoying demeanor, and she sounds like a real old croney during an interview on my Rebecca dvd. She would have been great for the Shelley Duvall role in The Shining.

And wasn't Havilland in some Hitchcock too? And whats this talk about them making up? Were they fighting? What's the deal? Tell me!

ryan, Monday, 2 September 2002 19:27 (twenty-three years ago)

But OdH was also in The Snake Pit and The Heiress (and of course, Adventures of Robin Hood)...

Joe (Joe), Monday, 2 September 2002 19:36 (twenty-three years ago)

And wasn't Havilland in some Hitchcock too? And whats this talk about them making up? Were they fighting? What's the deal? Tell me!

1) I don't think OdH was in any Hitchcock.

2) According to the imdb.com:

"Relations between de Havilland and actress/sister Joan Fontaine were never all that strong. But in 1941, both sisters were nominated for 'best actress' Oscar awards. Intense feelings of jealousy escalated into a all-out feud after younger sister Fontaine won for "Suspicion." Despite the fact de Havilland would go on and win two Academy Awards of her own, they remained estranged to the bitter end." [Kind of odd wording, since they're both still alive]

Joe (Joe), Monday, 2 September 2002 19:43 (twenty-three years ago)

perhaps it means the end of their estrangement? viz "they remained estranged until they made up chiz chiz" (it's transferred epiphet, ie "bitter" actually describes the feelings of the writer abt their having made up, cz he liked that they were estranged)

mark s (mark s), Monday, 2 September 2002 21:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Joan was so fabulous in Rebecca and Suspicion, but Olivia made a grebt mentalist in the Snakepit. It's too hard to decide!

Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 2 September 2002 22:35 (twenty-three years ago)

four months pass...
Joan's hella attraktive in Rebekka tho Martin's observation is korrekte.

naked as sin (naked as sin), Friday, 10 January 2003 00:58 (twenty-three years ago)

two months pass...
I go with Joan anyday. She is a fantastic actress and played all types of roles. Olivia is too melodramatic for my tastes.

Wonder woman, Friday, 28 March 2003 01:42 (twenty-three years ago)

I just found this thread and had to put in my two cents worth. I much prefer Joan Fontaine over Olivia de Havilland. Joan was truly beautiful is a very natural way. She could act rings around Olivia. Why? Because her real persona is totally different than the types of characters she played. Olivia's acting, on the other hand, is much more like her real persona. So the edge goes to Joan.

Carmelluv, Friday, 28 March 2003 15:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Olivia was at the Oscars this year, amongst all the previous best actor/actress award-winners. I think.

It's a toss up: Joan for Letter from an Unknown Woman or Olivia for The Strawberry Blonde?

Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 28 March 2003 16:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Olivia just cuz I love the Snake Pit and Hush,Hush,Sweet Charlotte so much and cuz I was in love with her as a kid cuz she played maid marion in the adventures of Robin Hood.

Scott Seward, Friday, 28 March 2003 19:44 (twenty-three years ago)

I fell madly in love with Joan Fontaine when I saw "This Above All". I thought she was the epitome of the type of girlfriend I would like to have -- beautiful, sexy, loyal, loving, caring. To this day, I adore Joan for all the great pictures she was in. So, it is not hard to see that Joan is my favorite of the two sisters.

Rob-in-town, Saturday, 29 March 2003 15:35 (twenty-three years ago)

I like Joan Fontaine the best. She has a softness and vulnerability about her screen presence that endears her to me. She could play all types of roles and did them magnificently.

Sally

Sally Rousell, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 00:16 (twenty-three years ago)

I think this gets my vote for Most Unlikely Yet Gloriously Repeatedly Revived Thread on ILE.

Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 00:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Of the two, Joan is my preference. I love her motion pictures, think she is a great actress. For me JOAN FONTAINE rules!

Lisa Hamilton, Saturday, 19 April 2003 22:41 (twenty-three years ago)

I am going with Joan Fontaine because I think she is the more beautiful of the two sisters and was a determined individual despite many set backs.

Billy, Friday, 2 May 2003 20:39 (twenty-three years ago)

two weeks pass...
Hey, this is quite a contest. I like them both but I like Joan Fontaine the very best so she is my choice. She is an enchantress on the screen.

Benson Robbins, Saturday, 17 May 2003 00:05 (twenty-three years ago)

two months pass...
My choice between the two is Joan Fontaine. :0) She's the one who was in my favorite of all time movies Rebecca.

Andrea Watkins, Tuesday, 22 July 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

You thought I loved Rebecca? You thought that? I hated it!

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Rebecca falls apart at the end thanks to the limits imposed on it by the Production Code. Although I've heard plenty of arguments to the contrary.

amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 15:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Something in me loves Olivia, more: she had a sense of wide-eyed innocence part of me warmed to, but couldn't resist giggling at.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

what's wrong with the end of Rebecca? I haven't read the book or anything so I may be missing something.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 12:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Nothing is wrong with the end of Rebecca! The book is still better though, since Daphne du Maurier's words describing Rebecca's dead-yet-still-very-much-alive character outdo even Hitchcock's images which focus more on the wholly-living as expected. It's still a great adaptation, and the score was ethereally appealing enough for my imagination to fill in the rest, as was the construction of Manderly, which is of course a character unto itself even though some people have problemz w/ Olivier's Max. The real star of the picture though, as everyone knows but never acknowledges, is Judith Anderson as the grebt Mrs. Danvers since it's so obvious she has a sick crush on not only Rebecca but possibly also Joan AND WE CAN PICTURE THEM ALL LEZZING UP etc.

I think Olivia is being underrated here! Where are her props? Didn't she score some major independent-woman points for striking out on her own and breaking studio contacts and such -> stuff that changed the industry forever, stuff that if Katherine Hepburn would have done, she might've actualy lived upto the strong-as-nails reputation she was lauded for ? What was the feud w/ Joan over again? Though I haven't seen The Heiress, I'm voting for Olivia for that Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte flick alone...a camp classic in which she drove Bette into fearful madness, who else could claim THAT??

Vic (Vic), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Olivia, purely for the Mosquito

/Dave Moore

chris (chris), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

*spoilers*

In the book, De Winter kills his first wife. But since the Production Code wouldn't allow someone to commit murder and get away with it (and since De Winter's getting away with it is the entire point of the story), in the film Rebecca dies in an accident (for which De Winter feels responsible, but it's not the same thing). Which undercuts the whole moral conundrum at the center of the book, and so the denouement of the film isn't as wrenching as it should've been. Not to mention that what had been a sublimely atmospheric and leisurely-paced film suddenly jumps into overdrive complete with a few too many unlikely plot elements and the unfortunate hilarity of every main character bouncing around from scene to scene with the policemen, trying to unravel the mystery. I always that the screenwriters' means of condensing the novel was sort of graceless, and Hitchcock couldn't ever quite get around the central problem the Code set for him.

Hitchcock didn't really hit his stride until Shadow of a Doubt, in 1943, which is the delightfully sordid film Rebecca sadly wasn't.

amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 15:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Incidentally I discovered a pre-Revolutionary Chinese translation of DuMaurier's Rebecca a few months ago. The cover art seemed inspired by the film.

amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)

My vote goes to Joan. She is the best of two sisters. Has anyone seen her in This Above All?

Polly Allen, Friday, 1 August 2003 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)

oh God, that's the one with the cringe-making euology which begins "if anyone asks me what England is ...", isn't it? oh, and Tyrone Power as a Yorkshireman.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Saturday, 2 August 2003 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

THIS ABOVE ALL? That is one damn good movie! Joan is my choice of the two sisters.

starryeyedpup, Tuesday, 5 August 2003 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry, I can't get past that Fontaine euology to "Englishness". Makes "Mrs Miniver" look like a realistic portrayal of the Home Front ...

robin carmody (robin carmody), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...
Joan is my favorite actress of all time so I have to say JOAN FONTAINE. Talented and beautiful and versatile. I like Olivia but I love Joan.

cinemaaddict, Monday, 25 August 2003 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I really like this thread and how many times it's been woken up.

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 26 August 2003 02:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Saw Letter From an Unknown Woman on a big outdoor screen last week. Man, was it ever fantastic (especially the DATE!). Yay for JF.

s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 7 September 2003 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

that's like the best movie ever.

amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 7 September 2003 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

the train scene! my god

s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 7 September 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean the train scene in the prater

s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 7 September 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I LOVE "Letter From An Unknown Woman" ...best tragicly romantic movie ever. Joan was awesome as Lisa. She has been my fave ever since I saw her in that movie. *sigh*

cinemaaddict, Saturday, 13 September 2003 03:07 (twenty-two years ago)

All the train scenes are great. They echo one another: date train, farewell train, mystery train. It's a movie full of echoes. The date train is so sweet, but it's funny too, the camera track back to the man rolling the screens. One man's romance is another man's job. It's like the perpetually dancing lovers in Madame de...; finally the dance band has had enough, and goes home.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 13 September 2003 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

When the camera tracks, you know it's Max.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 13 September 2003 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

the original "two weeks!"

s1utsky (slutsky), Saturday, 13 September 2003 04:37 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread is older than both of them!

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 13 September 2003 06:32 (twenty-two years ago)

well...not quite. Their combined ages are 172 years...soon to be 173 years...Joan Fontaine's birthday is October 22 when she will be 86. These two ladies certainly have some good genes working for them. Both are still active, of sound mind and body, and still very good looking women. I don't know about Olivia, but I do know that Joan still personally answers all her fan mail and in a strong and steady hand, too. Remarkable!

cinemaddict, Sunday, 21 September 2003 23:27 (twenty-two years ago)

cool! I'm going to write her a letter!

s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 22 September 2003 02:19 (twenty-two years ago)

dear joan,

you are a "very good actress."

enclosed is a picture of me. do you like younger men?

love,

s1utsky

amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 22 September 2003 02:45 (twenty-two years ago)

hee hee

s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 22 September 2003 03:08 (twenty-two years ago)

she does like younger men cause there ain't too many around who are older. :0)

cinemaddict, Monday, 22 September 2003 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

eight months pass...
I'll take Joan anyday over Olivia!

Larry Fisch, Wednesday, 9 June 2004 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread should top 1000 posts by the year 2015, easy.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 01:28 (twenty-two years ago)

but will we have an answer?

amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 02:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Olivia!!!!! She was so cute. Come on, The Snake Pit!!! I think this was the first ILE thread I ever posted on.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm still going w/joan.

amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Are they really both STILL alive? I take Joan too. Has anyone else seen her playing against type (if trembling Rebecca/Suspicion mode is her type) in some Nicholas Ray movie -- I think it's called *Bad Girl* or something like that, or am I imagining things?

chris herrington (chris herrington), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 03:21 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...
I favor Joan also. Chris, the film you are thinking of is "Born to be Bad" and she did played a conniving bad girl. Excellent performance. She was also against "type" (as in Rebecca, Suspicion, Jane Eyre)in "Serenade" in which she played a real b-tch and another example would be "Ivy" in which her character is a calculating murderess, another Oscar-worthy performance from Joan. She's the cutest little "monkey-face". I prefer her style of acting over Olivia's.

Pat Olds, Sunday, 18 July 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
I positively love Joan Fontaine. Olivia I can take or leave. She seems like such a drama queen, or thinks she is. Joan rocks!

Emily Carson, Friday, 6 August 2004 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Of the two de Havilland sisters, my favorite is Joan. She is the most beautiful of the two and several movies which are my all time favorites -- Suspicion, Rebecca, This Above All, Ivy, September Affair, Born to be Bad, and a really good film noir, Kiss the Blood Off My Hands. She was so good in her later roles as a bitchy woman.

Bradley, Friday, 6 August 2004 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Joan was much the better actress but Olivia was hotter.

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 6 August 2004 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

(seconded)

x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Friday, 6 August 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

This just might be my fave ILE thread. Even if I think you are all crazy for picking that snooty Joan over the utterly adorable Olivia.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 6 August 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I have met Joan three times in person and she is not one bit snooty in real life. Quite the opposite, she is charming, down to earth, and very gracious to her fans. Without a lot of fanfare, she continues to make generous contributions to her favorite charities. She also answers all her fan mail herself, even now at age 86 soon to be 87. I don't know where you get the idea she is snooty. On what do you base you opinion?

cinemaddict, Friday, 6 August 2004 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeez, don't have a cow, I love her movies. I just fell in love with Olivia at an early age. Say hello to Joan for me.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 6 August 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't believe i never posted to this - umm, I love Joan for Rebecca but Olivia wins out for the name (anything with 'de' sounds good) for being Melanie in Gone with the Wind, Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte and being the pearl bedecked matron in Airport '77.

H (Heruy), Friday, 6 August 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Scott, you did not answer my question. What makes you consider Joan snooty? A cow? I don't have cows. I was just wondering why you think of Joan Fontaine as snooty?

cinemaddict, Saturday, 7 August 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

For your information, hareteain, Joan Fontaine would have liked to keep her family name, but Olivia and her mother said 'no way.' So Joan adopted her stepfather's name. Any if you love names with "de" in them, then you should love Joan because her birth name is Joan de
Beauvoir de Havilland. All her legal matters not related to her career are under Joan de Havilland and that is the name she says she wants on her tombstone.

cinemaddict, Saturday, 7 August 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

this thread will outlast the cockroaches and william f. buckley!

||amateur!st|| (amateurist), Saturday, 7 August 2004 07:01 (twenty-one years ago)

thank god for that!

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 7 August 2004 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Heehee, so be it. The thread may outlast both of the sisters. I love it! Joan is still my choice.

starreyeyedpup, Saturday, 7 August 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

One hundred thirty-fifth best thread ever!

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 7 August 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, this IS a long-lived thread and can't believe I haven't seen it before. Here's my choice...Joan Fontaine. Olivia was cute, but Joan was gorgeous. Both are very talented actresses and have made some excellent films.

Princess, Sunday, 8 August 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
Joan and Olivia...MARRY ME OR ELSE!!! Er...

Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Somebody really needs to do a tally on this bizitch. I MUST KNOW!

x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
so i just got a netflix subscription and i was really looking forward to checking out letter from an unknown woman and the heiress and apparently neither of them are out on dvd, this sucks.

John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i think letter from an unknown woman is available! somewhere!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

it does appear to be available in france (w/ irremovable french subtitles)

John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

yup, i have that dvd.

you can also get it on (DUM DEE DUM DUM) VHS!!!

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

eww!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i hear they give you cooties!

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i hate vhs sound

therefore you should not watch a silent movie on vhs

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

did everyone read the great Olivia interview in the sunday new york times this past sunday? she's still looking fab!

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

no i wish i saw that! i don't get the times on sunday!

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

s1ocki: aim??

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
This is quite a thread...my favorite of the two actresses is Joan Fontaine. I'll never forget her in Rebecca and Ivy and Letter From An Unknown Woman among others. She was magnificent!

Frances Roberts, Monday, 17 January 2005 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...
This is an easy decision for me. Joan Fontaine all the way! The most truthful of the two sisters and a better actress than her sibling.

twinkleyes, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

saw The Snake Pit this weekend, so OdH for me

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

She wasn't acting in 'Rebecca', she was being bullied and it was right for the part. OdH, by far the superior actress, if only for 'The Heiress', plus she was Marian in 'The Adventures of Robin Hood'.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

hubba hubba

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

I had no idea there were so many crazed Joan Fontaine googlers until this thread came along.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

you mean this guy:

Scott, you did not answer my question. What makes you consider Joan snooty? A cow? I don't have cows. I was just wondering why you think of Joan Fontaine as snooty?

-- cinemaddict (adpy...), August 7th, 2004.


i'm not scared of him. OLIVIAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

Kind of! It just seems like every time this thread gets revived it's by a Joan Fontaine googler.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

or "JFG" in movie-fan parlance

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

I'm pretty sure I read recently that Hitchcock (and his wife) grumbled that Selznick forced them to use as underwhelming actress as Joan.

The pair of them weren't the best element in any of their films that I've seen (I like OdH OK in The Heiress, but then there's Ralph Richardson).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

RR is magisterial in that movie.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe no one's extolled De Havilland in The Heiress, which despite the liberties it takes with the source material, is the best Henry James adaptation and one of the scariest films ever made. The scenes in which her mousy daughter go up against Ralph Richardson's smooth monster of a father feature some of the best adult acting ever seen in a studio film.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

Jennifer Jason Leigh didn't do as well, it's true.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

Your search - "Joan Fontaine" rockism Momus excelsior - did not match any documents.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

Alfred, did nae read me and Dr. M above?

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Yes, but I want DETAILS, PAEANS, ODES!!

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

I like Joan Fontaine the best. She was always so watchable in her films. I think she is just as great an actress as Olivia.

Dozem, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

awesome golfers

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)

I love it when this thread gets revived.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

OMG Joan Fontaine rulz! Joan Fontaine 4-eva!

JFG (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

Hush…Hush, Sweet Charlotte (I've never seen it) out on DVD, reviewed by our own Eric H:

http://www.slantmagazine.com/dvd/dvd_review.asp?ID=719

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

HeeHee, guess who I like best???

Joan de Havilland, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

Of the two actresses, I like Joan Fontaine the best. Is that really you Miss Fontaine, of the previous post?

Bernadette, Thursday, 11 August 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

What do you think? Is it the real Joan Fontaine or an imposter?

Joan de Havilland, Friday, 12 August 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

Hi, I'm Joan Fontaine. Although I'm flattered by the praise on this site, I must say that Olivia de Havilland is clearly a better actress than I am. Just look at the way she falls over at the end of Gone With the Wind, only a fantastic actress could fall over with such style. I don't think I fell over in any of my movies.

Joan Fontaine, Friday, 12 August 2005 07:13 (twenty years ago)

But you did fall for Louis Jordan in Letter From An Unknown Woman, Ms Fontaine. Does that count?

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

If you mean faint...yes I did fall over in many of my movies...like "The Constant Nymph" and "Suspicion" and "Rebecca" and "The Witches." And I did it without making a big thud on the floor. I thought Louis Jourdan was very handsome and I did not fall for him like my character did. Joan Fontaine imposter, you are dead wrong...I would never say that Olivia was a better actress than I am...I would say she is a great actress but not a better actress.

Joan de Havilland, Friday, 12 August 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Well, by the time "The Witches" was made, I was a sprightly 152. So the fall you see was actually an unscripted giving way of my hip, which the directors decided to leave in owing to its spontaneity. The falls in "The Constant Nymph" and "Rebecca" were caused by me unintentionally getting high off my own hairspray, and in "Suspicion" I fainted after witnessing Cary Grant's attempts at acting... and this is the same reason why Eve Marie Saint spends all of "North by Northwest" practically in a coma.

Joan Fontaine, Friday, 12 August 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

This is the 20th independent round of postings (as indicated by grey bars) for this thread. Surely an ILX record?

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 13 August 2005 02:02 (twenty years ago)

You have it wrong, Joan Fontaine imposter, it was Olivia that was 152. I was only 150. Besides that young man or young lady, I had a hip replacement long before I was 150. In fact, I was half that age when I decided to have a hig replacement caused by all that fainting I had to do for the films I made.

Joan Fontaine, Saturday, 13 August 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

Okay "Joan Fontaine" - you are killing me! STOP!

I love both sisters for different reasons. I love watching Olivia's dark eyes. She has a beautiful smile and a sweet laugh. I also love the way she says PLEEEEASE with the emphasis on the "e"! I really came to appreciate her wonderful sense of humor after reading her book, EVERY FRENCHMAN HAS ONE. It’s a riot! And after receiving a very sweet letter from her last year, I have really warmed up to her. And of course I think she’s a fabulous actress. I personally think that she had more great films than Joan in which she was able to shine brilliantly. But the handful of Joan's films that I love pretty much keeps things in balance between the two. Joan had me at REBECCA big time! And she had me screaming during IVY and cracking up during THE AFFAIRS OF SUSAN! She very graciously signed everything I've sent her and answered most of my questions. It seems the only film that she is proud of is LETTER FROM AN UNKNOWN WOMAN, which I think is sad because she has quite a few to be proud of. Even though I feel that Olivia is a bit warmer and more personable, I really can't fairly put one over the other. I enjoy them both very much.

lapar, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

Our family loves Joan Fontaine films...so many of her were made from classic novels which encourage our kids to read them. Joan is the better of the two sisters, in our opinion. We live in the east and have seen Joan in many plays. She was terrific actress and so personable to her fans.

Edward, Friday, 19 August 2005 02:26 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
I'll choose Joan Fontaine over Olivia de Havilland.

sophie, Sunday, 9 October 2005 00:11 (twenty years ago)

You would!

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 9 October 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)

why choose?!?!? Celebrate them both. Such class and style can't be found in any actress of modern day.

Wiggy (Wiggy), Sunday, 9 October 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)

Wiggy, those two had class with a capital C and elegance with a capital E. Both have earned their place in Hollywood history and both have left a legacy of great films. But I atill prefer Joan.

sophie, Friday, 14 October 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

will ile never resolve this fantastically important issue??

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 14 October 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

I AM THE BENCH guy (gal?) to thread

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 15 October 2005 01:19 (twenty years ago)

I am going to choose Joan Fontaine because I think her performance in REBECCA is absolutely perfect -- every scene, every movement, every line paints a vivid picture of how Mrs. du Maurier described "I" de Winter in her novel.

Rachel Denise, Saturday, 22 October 2005 01:27 (twenty years ago)

I think Olivia is prettier/sexier, so I like her (probably cuz I always wanted to be errol hood). Also Joan used to do an ad for some brand of bread that played on a radio station I listened to a lot and the way she said "wheat" (like the h came before the w) several times in 30 seconds was annoyingly snotty sounding. I do think Joan is a better actress, but I could never have the kind of crush on her I had on Olivia when I saw Robin Hood.

steve ketchup, Sunday, 23 October 2005 06:12 (twenty years ago)

It is little sister, Joanie for me. I always wanted to protect her...she seemed so fragile. In my opinion, she is more beautiful than Olivia. Joan had a delicate beauty and a sort of mysterious look, like the Mona Lisa, about her at times that really fascinated me.

Bob Sarich, Monday, 31 October 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

And what about all those Melissa thread revivals we're having lately?

This is not a complaint, though. I like Melissa.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 31 October 2005 00:43 (twenty years ago)

Shine on, you crazy JFG diamonds.

So so Krispie (Ex Leon), Monday, 31 October 2005 01:08 (twenty years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4399168.stm

Will Joan turn up?

KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

TS: Hott Brunettes vs. Cool Blondes

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

I hope this causes the JFG contingent some distress, Olivia deserves the recognition.

KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

What I think this means is that Olivia is ill and the Academy better hurry up and honor her before she's a corpse. Olivia loves publicity and yearns for recognition.

Suzette Allen, Sunday, 6 November 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

Nicole, and Joan Fontaine does not deserve the recognition??? She has every bit a right to be recognized as does Olivia. Of course, Olivia campaigns for such things, whereas Joan is content in her life as it is now and does not seek recognition for what she calls "her other life." Still, Joan deserve the recognition for all the marvelous films she made.

Rachel Denise, Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

As a fan of both, I have to admit that OLIVIA DE HAVILLAND had much more range than JOAN FONTAINE, who specialized in frightened heroines. Joan was more delicate looking but Olivia had a radiant beauty.

I feel that Olivia could easily have played any of Joan's roles whereas I cannot picture Joan Fontaine ever doing anything like THE SNAKE PIT, THE HEIRESS, TO EACH HIS OWN, THE DARK MIRROR, HUSH...HUSH, SWEET CHARLOTTE or any of Olivia's more difficult roles.

They were both beautiful in their prime, but Olivia was ravishing in all of those Errol Flynn films and especially gorgeous in films like ELIZ. AND ESSEX and CAPTAIN BLOOD and ROBIN HOOD.

To say that Joan had a greater number of great films is simply untrue. After REBECCA and SUSPICION it was almost all downhill.

Olivia had the more distinguished career with two Oscars and it's about time the Academy is honoring her next year.

Suzette's comment about "before she's a corpse" is an ugly commentary on how today's fans have no respect for anyone or anything!!

Neil Doyle, Saturday, 19 November 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

She's just an envious JFG, dude.

Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Sunday, 20 November 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

This amazing thread confirms that there is an intelligent design at work in the universe.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 20 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

Joan Fontaine was way hotter.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Sunday, 20 November 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

Give me a J, Give me an O, Give me an A, Give me a N. JOAN! JOAN! JOAN! Yea, Joan!

Ernie, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)

And give me a break!

This thread is getting nauseating! It's like a revival meeting of the Joan Fontaine Fan Club.

Never knew there were so many Google-ites devoted to JF on the basis of one memorable film that begins with the initial "R".

Olivia's fans should come out of the woodwork!!!

Neil, Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

I have never been so insulted. I do not live in the woodwork. Insects and other vermin live in the woodwork. Just for that remark, I'm staying put here in the closet.

Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

You took the "woodwork" remark literally?

Give me another break. It's just another way of saying Olivia's fans should speak up!!

Neil, Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

Yeah Aimless. I mean didn't you know that? God *throiws hands in air in gesture of disgust*

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

Both women are pretty and talented. My favorite is Joan Fontaine. I first fell for her when I watched "The Women" and I've been hooked ever since.

Eric, Monday, 5 December 2005 03:39 (twenty years ago)

Joan Fontaine is an enchanting actress who continues to captivate me after seeing many of her films. She is my favorite actress of the two sisters. Olivia was good, but Joan was better.

Scott

Scott Woodruff, Monday, 12 December 2005 03:43 (twenty years ago)

Joan Fontaine vs. Olivia de Havilland: ILE's most enduring Google bait? You decide!

Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 12 December 2005 04:48 (twenty years ago)

Joan was good, but Olivia was gifted. Therein lies the difference.

The proof is in the number of great films de Havilland did (at least a dozen) as compared to Joan's four or five.

Both were beautiful, but Olivia was by far the more skillful actress who appeared in a greater variety of roles than Joan, whose screen personality was decidedly limited. Joan seemed so artificial in her superficial portraits of evil (IVY and BORN TO BE BAD).

Joan played a timid lady once too often. Olivia could play both sides of the coin with equal conviction. There was so much more to her than the role of Melanie in GWTW. I get the impression a lot of younger fans only know her from the Civil War film--do some research and you'll be surprised at how wide her range was.

Neil

Neil Doyle, Monday, 12 December 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

Neil, if you were replying to me, I am not a younger movie fan unless you call being 56 a younger fan. I have seen most all of Olivia's films and I still stand by my opinion that Joan Fontaine was the better actress. One of the movies you mentioned, IVY, was entered in the 1949 Cannes Festival so it and Joan could not have been all that superficial. The reviews and opinions by fans are divided for BORN TO BE BAD. Some love Joan's Cristabel Caine, and some, like you, do not. Just read the IMDb user reviews and some of the reviews on the Internet.

Scott

Scott Woodruff, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

Personally, I liked the film IVY but did find that, as many reviewers have said, there's an "artificial streak that runs through her acting". Interesting to note that de Havilland turned the role down before Joan took it, predicting (quite correctly) that it would not be a financial success.

And you're right about BORN TO BE BAD. I'm well aware that it has its supporters--but I watched it recently on TCM and thought Joan and the film lived up to its title. I read IMDb reviews very often and some are well written and I respect their comments. As a matter of fact, I've contributed a good number of them.

There are some de Havilland films I'm not too fond of, as well, but I'd say her record of great performances is far ahead of Joan's.

Neil

Neil Doyle, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

Is this going to be like Jay-Z vs. Nas?

Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

Joan Fontaine vs. Olivia de Havilland. For me the winner is Joan Fontaine. A great beauty and an inspiring actress.

Janice Longley, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Is this going to be like Jay-Z vs. Nas?

A bit genteel.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

Will the debate rage on in 2006?

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 31 December 2005 04:46 (twenty years ago)

I'll take claudette colbert, thx.

Jimmy Mod Is The Damnation (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Saturday, 31 December 2005 05:22 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't this thread belong somewhere else? Like 1942?

JTS (JTS), Saturday, 31 December 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

Would you happen to have revived this because Rebecca was on earlier today?

Hmm?

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Saturday, 31 December 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
I've posted on here before, but wanted to be the first to do so in 2006. I'm one of the many here who like Joan Fontaine.

racheldenise, Friday, 20 January 2006 21:17 (twenty years ago)

I see that this thread has been going on a long time. Two better subjects could not have been found to make this a long-lived thread. I enjoy both actresses but my choice is Joan Fontaine. She is the prettiest, in my opinion, and I loved her delicate screen presence. Joan created so many memorable characters as in Rebecca, Suspicion, Letter from an Unknown Woman, Ivy, Born to be Bad, This Above All, and Jane Eyre. One of Miss Fontaine's films I particularily enjoy is From This Day Forward which is rare and hard to find. She was brilliant in her depiction of a Bronx housewife during WWII and the Depression eras. I think Olivia's best were The Heiress and The Snake Pit.

Richard Sederholm, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:42 (twenty years ago)

See, this is the real reason google is evil. Fuck that "ooh, censorship is howwible!" bullshit on the other thread.

your google overlords, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)

four weeks pass...
I'm on the side of Joan Fontaine for I think she is the prettier of the two sisters and I enjoy her films more than I do Olivia's. Both are very good actresses, but Joan appeals to me more.

Gigi Hubbard, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:57 (twenty years ago)

Will the debate rage on in 2006?

Did you ever doubt?

Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 23 February 2006 01:46 (twenty years ago)

thread needs photos

http://www.larrytt.com/celebrities_playing_tt/joan_fontaine.jpg

amateurist0, Thursday, 23 February 2006 03:29 (twenty years ago)

Olivia! Picking Joan on this thread is so 2004.


scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 23 February 2006 04:22 (twenty years ago)

that little glimmer of knee in that photo above is very sexy!

ryan (ryan), Thursday, 23 February 2006 05:14 (twenty years ago)

not as much as the liver spots in the third photo. get one photoshop losers!

tremendoid (tremendoid), Thursday, 23 February 2006 06:21 (twenty years ago)

This thread is a crack up! I just had to pipe in! I would love to know the ages of the guys calling Joan and Olivia hot--I'm assuming not eighty something year olds. (if some of you are no offense!)I think it's cool for young people to have some appreciation and passion for the classic movie stars.

Having said that--although I adore "The Heiress", largely because of the unbelievably hot Montogomery Clift (who incidentally I'm certain I could have convinced to be my boyfriend despite the fact that he was a tortured gay man :) I have to cast my vote for Joan in the beauty and talent department! Sorry OdH fans!

Kelly P., Thursday, 23 February 2006 18:24 (twenty years ago)

http://www.goines.net/Gallery/068_letter_unknownwoman_gal.gif

amateurist0, Thursday, 23 February 2006 20:12 (twenty years ago)

Just rescreened The Heiress...her gaucheness works in the scenes in which she asked to project awkwardness and naivete. In other words, she seems more directed than an actress capable of these effects on her own; but, still, I can't besmirch her achievement here, especially when she's able to hold her own against Ralph Richardson's magnificent cad of a father.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 00:12 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Joan Fontaine is my choice of the two sisters. For the most part, I like and enjoy Joan's movies better than I do Olivia's.
Joan movies I love: THE WOMEN, REBECCA, SUSPICION, THIS ABOVE ALL, FRENCHMAN'S CREEK, JANE EYRE, THE AFFAIRS OF SUSAN, IVY, LETTER FROM AN UNKNOWN WOMAN, BORN TO BE BAD, SEPTEMBER AFFAIR, A CERTAIN SMILE, and THE DEVIL'S OWN.

Olivia's movies I love: GONE WITH THE WIND, TO EACH HIS OWN, THE HEIRESS, and NOT AS A STRANGER.

Whitney, Saturday, 15 April 2006 18:26 (twenty years ago)

JOAN FONTAINE FANS ARE POSSIBLY UNSTABLE AND MAY OR MAY NOT BE INSANE.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 15 April 2006 19:24 (twenty years ago)

I just bought Sisters for a quarter the other day

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Saturday, 15 April 2006 19:27 (twenty years ago)

Scott Seward...at least the Joan Fontaine fans don't psychoanalyze the fans of Olivia de Havilland! Personally, I resent being deemed "possibly unstable" and "may or may not be insane" just for expressing my opinion.

Whitney, Sunday, 16 April 2006 01:47 (twenty years ago)

both great, but LETTER FROM AN UNKNOWN WOMEN breaks the tie

timmy tannin (pompous), Sunday, 16 April 2006 01:56 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
i might have to change my vote after having seen 'the heiress'

amateurist0, Monday, 1 May 2006 04:48 (twenty years ago)

btw i watched 6 movies this weekend!

amateurist0, Monday, 1 May 2006 04:50 (twenty years ago)

I've been considering changing my vote, too. Then continuing to change it back and forth after the elapse of a decent interval.

Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:36 (twenty years ago)

What are your thoughts on The Heiress, amateurist? Ralph Richardson is probably the scariest screen father ever.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:40 (twenty years ago)

nine months pass...
This really ought to be revived on NuILX, if only to help facilitate the dead pool thread. And as a way to say "Welcome back, random Googlers!"

Aimless, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

I have read this entire thread and it is amazing. I am glad that both actresses are still alive. My favorite: Joan Fontaine

bestofeverything2, Sunday, 25 February 2007 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

It remains my favorite thread.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 February 2007 00:14 (nineteen years ago)

seven months pass...

Joan is 90!

http://daily.greencine.com/archives/004774.html

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 13:59 (eighteen years ago)

Happy Birthday Joanie!

Tom D., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

Do you think neither one wants to die before the other?

Melissa W, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

Joan, questioned:

What do you consider the most overrated virtue?

Virginity.

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2008/03/proust_fontaine200803

Dr Morbius, Friday, 22 February 2008 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/film-and-tv/features/sibling-rivalry-hollywoods-oldest-feud-828301.html

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 15 May 2008 20:08 (eighteen years ago)

six months pass...

One sister just received a National Medal of Arts from the NEA.

Ruudside Picnic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 November 2008 03:27 (seventeen years ago)

I love how folks were marvelling at the longevity and resilience of this thread back when it had existed for nearly a full two years...and now it's SIX years old!

Gotta go with Olivia for The Heiress and, yeah, Gone With The Wind.

Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 24 November 2008 06:24 (seventeen years ago)

seven months pass...

i've watched rebecca, suspicion, unknown woman, and jane eyre. what films should i watch next to satisfy this thirst of joan fontaine?

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 02:28 (sixteen years ago)

You've mentioned her only worthwhile films.

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 02:30 (sixteen years ago)

Joan Fontaine is a woman of loose morals and questionable character.

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 02:31 (sixteen years ago)

this above all is worth a look

velko, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 02:59 (sixteen years ago)

Joan Fontaine is a woman of loose morals and questionable character.

― scott seward, Tuesday, July 7, 2009 2:31 AM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark

huh?? care to elaborate?

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 03:10 (sixteen years ago)

you obviously haven't read this thread.

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 03:14 (sixteen years ago)

http://tbn0.google.com/hosted/images/c?q=9e5d50aff0977b4c_large

velko, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 03:16 (sixteen years ago)

http://tbn0.google.com/hosted/images/c?q=47143ad5feb1ed48_large

velko, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 03:17 (sixteen years ago)

http://tbn0.google.com/hosted/images/c?q=3addc9dee048f555_large

velko, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 03:19 (sixteen years ago)

http://tbn0.google.com/hosted/images/c?q=8e360d4fb9ada3cf_large

velko, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 03:20 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/golden-girl-the-divine-olivia-de-havilland-1744807.html

Both still alive and kicking, both nursing grudges. Since Lindbergh crossed the Atlantic.

Olivia seems very graceful... but I just Googled the part of her forbidding Joan to use De Havilland name.

So maybe Joan was so good at playing tremulous victims because she kind of was one.

bondirotta, Friday, 3 September 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

three months pass...

edition of 3
SOLD OUT

you do not get to say sold out lady this is america

probably an olivia fan

tremendoid, Friday, 17 December 2010 08:07 (fifteen years ago)

five years pass...

Olivia turns 100 in 3 weeks

http://selfstyledsiren.blogspot.com/2016/06/steel-and-silk-100th-birthday-tribute.html

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 June 2016 19:11 (nine years ago)

Upcoming Local Retrospective: http://www.mfah.org/films/series/72/

Only seen Midsummer... & GWTW out of this batch. Any other recs?

Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 10 June 2016 19:29 (nine years ago)

R Hood, Heiress, Snake Pit, but a bunch there i haven't seen

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 June 2016 19:31 (nine years ago)

two weeks pass...

one day to go, Olivia!

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 June 2016 03:51 (nine years ago)

Scott Seward...at least the Joan Fontaine fans don't psychoanalyze the fans of Olivia de Havilland! Personally, I resent being deemed "possibly unstable" and "may or may not be insane" just for expressing my opinion.
― Whitney, Sunday, April 16, 2006 1:47 AM (10 years ago)

scott seward, Thursday, 30 June 2016 15:29 (nine years ago)

how the heck does a gal make films with Errol Flynn and Monty Clift, yet have a torrid affair with a monkeyface like John Huston?

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 June 2016 19:30 (nine years ago)

ohboy, 'Dragon Lady'

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 July 2016 15:42 (nine years ago)

also: happy birthday.

scott seward, Friday, 1 July 2016 15:43 (nine years ago)

link roundup

https://www.fandor.com/keyframe/daily-olivia-de-havilland-100

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 July 2016 16:11 (nine years ago)

Happy birthday, Olivia!!!!!

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Friday, 1 July 2016 16:34 (nine years ago)

she uses email!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 July 2016 16:35 (nine years ago)

I wonder what her Tinder profile is.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 July 2016 16:35 (nine years ago)

Was trying to think of any other stars who made it to 100, and could only come up with George Burns.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Friday, 1 July 2016 16:37 (nine years ago)

Bob Hope, Luise Rainer. Not many other actual "movie stars."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_centenarians_(actors,_filmmakers_and_entertainers)

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 July 2016 16:56 (nine years ago)

most of the old-timers smoked like fish. never gonna hit triple digits.

scott seward, Friday, 1 July 2016 17:12 (nine years ago)

eleven months pass...

That's Dame Olivia De Havilland, to you.

Heavy Doors (jed_), Friday, 16 June 2017 22:55 (eight years ago)

two weeks pass...

FUCK FX! FREE OLIVIA!

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/olivia-de-havilland-feud-lawsuit-fx-ryan-murphy-1202484973/

scott seward, Saturday, 1 July 2017 15:52 (eight years ago)

If, as stated in the article, FX never even consulted her about any aspect of a movie about her, then yeah she has a damn good case.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 1 July 2017 16:44 (eight years ago)

one month passes...

moving fwd

http://www.vulture.com/2017/07/olivia-de-havilland-is-wasting-no-time-suing-ryan-murphy.html

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 August 2017 15:57 (eight years ago)

ten months pass...

belated birthday wishes to Olivia, she turned 102 yesterday.

omar little, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 07:16 (seven years ago)

one year passes...

104 today

Josefa, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:33 (five years ago)

In six months or so, she'll also have outlived Luise Rainer.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 16:34 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

^CURSES

RIP

Here's Olivia De Havilland testifying in the court case that would change Hollywood and bring a permanent end to the studio contract system. (1/2). pic.twitter.com/aU5NBkFWhm

— Peter Labuza (@labuzamovies) July 26, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 July 2020 17:52 (five years ago)

http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/1229013/Robert-Osborne-on-Olivia-de-Havilland-Movie-Promo-Star-Of-The-Month-July-2016.html

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 26 July 2020 18:43 (five years ago)

7 Feb 72 By the time we got to NY Cukor had either been fired or had withdrawn and my leading lady was Olivia de Haviland who had just won two Oscars in three years and was in the language of Hollywood 'hot, hot, hot.' (My Cousin Rachel) pic.twitter.com/euZuL48JzX

— Richard Burton (@BurtonDiaries) July 26, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 July 2020 22:19 (five years ago)

Winner of one of the more deserved Best Actress trophies for The Heiress the best cinematic adaptation of Henry James after THE INNOCENTS. She holds her own against Montgomery Clift and a magnificent Ralph Richardson. The movie is way subtler than expected: there's a closeup in the last 10 mins in which de Havilland must weigh buried love and self-righteousness; the last half hour is like a horror film. William Wyler surpassed himself.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 July 2020 22:45 (five years ago)

Just gave it a rewatch today and it’s even better than I’d remembered. Also, I would’ve gladly given Monty Clift $30K a year for the rest of my life just for the pleasure of seeing his waist in those high-cut jackets.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Sunday, 26 July 2020 23:52 (five years ago)

Was this posted anywhere?

My forever vibe is Olivia de Havilland cursing her way through a blooper reel. pic.twitter.com/8P5ApTAQy4

— Caitlin Rose (@TheCaitlinRose) July 26, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 July 2020 21:29 (five years ago)


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