important gossip girl poll

max van der poll

omg i've been watching on netflix TOO. what fucking season are you up to i am so happy you started this

i used to be like #1 fan but the show got so horrible in season 3-4. i can't even pick a favorite character because they are all the worst.

i agree that the 1st season/2nd season were on another level but tbh in soap opera land i think it maintained its game just fine

might have to vote for lil in all honesty

haven't watched it since the first season. based on that, chuck bass obv.

watching old episodes of gossip girl in 2012 is unfathomable, even more unfathomable than watching new episodes, or just watching it at all

will vote for meester off the strength of meester though

im like middle of season three, mostly i just watch when ari is watching while we make dinner or whatever so ive missed some chunks... i guess its dropped in quality but man its so much better than any other primetime soap in the last 10 years that i can forgive it.

i love it b/c even though its a soap its so low-stakes, like i never get stressed out or worried about the characters at all

EXACTLY. it cures my headaches. i'm in the middle of 3 too!! olivia burke time

meester is so strong it's true.

monday's episode was amazing btw

(voted for chuck)

OMG MONDAY'S EPISODE'S ENDING

i died

i mean the obvious answer is chuck, but i think vanessa is crazy hot even though shes SO BORING

right!? should we take this thread over with spoilers/theories, or should we let it be?

xp

ugh maybe she gets better but vanessa was such a creepy character in the first season

she still does all the gross filming stuff but again shes crazy hot, like a young marguiles

xp dude i don't know but that was amazing -- the ghost of gossip girl past!!

i don't think chuck is an obvious answer tbh, he has grown on me a lot but i used to find him insufferable

the best is when vanessa gets banished

love how chuck looks/walks/talks like a monkey that has been trained to speak

lol. i don't think vanessa ever wore like one attractive outfit. love how blair calls her out on it.

you know they were fucking in real life, she and c bass

"people like me dont write books... they're written about"

vanessa is the WORST. ok she is tied with everyone else for the second worst, and chuck is the worst.

ok can we talk about nate for a second

i really have a hard time understanding why he's always wearing so much clothing in the show

Little J. I've watched every episode apart from the last five and i just can't bring myself to start again.

i kind of find nate very sympathetic and hot

sometimes

nate has trouble tucking his shirt in, it annoys me to no end

can we all at least agree that dan is the worst here?

dan's HAIR is the worst

i don't remember the last time i've tucked my shirt in, i feel like nate and i wd get along, we'd smoke, eat pizza and not tuck in our shirts

rufus and lily both worse than dan

i mean i dont always tuck my shirt in either, but i certainly dont wear ties and blazers with an untucked shirt

i don't believe that 'leighton meester', 'blake lively', or 'penn badgley' are real people

xxp Rufus is just pathetic. Lily's actively awful. Dan's smugface puts him in a league of his own, though.

i liked dan in easy a so i give him a pass

Blair's moments of humanity are pretty great.

Watching this vs the OC it's shocking how bad the OC is in comparison.

kelly rutherford clearly one of the best actresses on the show, i wish rufus and lily were my parents :)

Love how easily this show glosses over Chuck trying to rape Dan's little sister in the first episode. Even when they call back to it, everyone's like nbd

yeah that happens again in season 4 and is when i stopped watching

sorry SPOILER

ya the first half of the first season sets the show up as if its just going to be OC in new york (serena as micha barton, blair as summer, caleb as bart, rufus as sandy, dan as a combo of seth and ryan) but it breaks out of that mold pretty thoroughly

xxxxxp

summer vs blair

blair

by a mile

all the GG characters way better than OC counterparts EXCEPT seth >>>>> dan and sandy >>>>>>>> rufus

Watching it back, the first series is arguably the best.

It's the supporting characters (Dorota, Eric, Georgina, etc) that have kept it a cut above the competition, imo.

again, based solely on the first season, dan is absolutely the worst.

GEORGINA

all the characters they want you to be sympathetic with are so horrible

georgina is some A+ shit

i know; it's a really weird show that way

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i couldn't figure out if it was on purpose or not

also this happened as well
http://jezebel.com/5798390/violence-passed-off-as-romance-on-gossip-girl

not to be all dour feminist but it really sucks when popular culture targeted towards young people normalizes abuse/assault (like, everything in the twilight series).

i'm in love with carter baizen

yeah :(

didn't that start with the very first episode where chuck bass attempts rape or something? am i misremembering. it is fucked up for sure.

xp to bell

http://images.teamsugar.com/files/upl2/2/22252/08_2009/fee3212416d2d5c3_carter-and-serena.xxlarge.jpg

ugh, that interview makes everything so much grosser -
"They have a volatile relationship, they always have, but I do not believe-or I should say we do not believe-that it is abuse when it's the two of them. Chuck does not try to hurt Blair. He punches the glass because he has rage, but he has never, and will never, hurt Blair."

http://weblogs.wpix.com/news/local/morningnews/blogs/seba0313.jpg

ok important question

blair's clothes v serena's clothes

Blair dresses better.

Carter is Leighton's irl boyfriend, I think.

YES when i found that out i was buggin

blair definitely has the best clothes/style on the show.

wow, are there any gossip girl cast members that havent dated irl?

got bored once they went to college

that said, can't decide between chuck or blair, wtf @ anyone who votes vanessa

cmon guys i didnt say i was voting for vanessa just that she look intersting

also, the other week i was skating at wollman rink in central park and thinking how real life gossip girl-y it was, then as i left the ice i turned around and realized i was holding the door for the actress that plays lily, which kind of blew my mind

uhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!

she used to be on melrose iirc

GG has the highest number of cast members my friends have run into than any other show i can think of

i was at a party for work with blakey!

this show is such unmitigated garbage now i kindof retroactively hate all of it

i still have some residual affection for jenny ca. season 3 (lol fashion) but i think thats mostly cuz they wrote her off the show once it stated sucking/she was in a crappy band that toured.

worst character is and always will be rufus tho. not even stupid sour-faced vanessa w/her worthless storylines can compete with his goddam INDIE BAND mumbling and rat-eyed emptiness

never got further than like eight episodes in this but um it doesn't have peter gallagher

dont call vanessa sour faced

and instead of peter gallagher it has "rufus"

Rufus's loft was pretty amazing tho

all the characters are better/more interesting on the OC (except maybe Blair), but the show itself is so much worse.

no way was mischa barton more interesting than serena!!

i do really like leighton meester and her diaphanous plutocrat nighties.

dont call vanessa sour faced

haha i didnt really read the thread do u think shes pretty? i mean she obv is totally smashable but when they have her 'scheming' she does make that face

haha yeah im just kidding b/c i said i might vote for her cause shes really hot and everyone made that face like they smelled something bad

Mischa Barton had the lolsy lesbian interlude that's better than any plotline Serena's had, though

i mean all the girls are crazy hot vanessa's just got that dark complexion-light eyes young margulies thing going on

Is Ryan's older brother the Carter of the OC?

yeah but blake lively is like 1mx a better actress than barton, and the lesbian thing was really poorly done despite being lolsy

one of the problems w/ the show is that none of the main characters are very interesting or sympathetic except lily and the woman who plays lily is a bad enough actress even im like 'this is bad acting' so i end up rooting for the obv doomed guest stars like poor white trash juliette who at least knew how to actually fuck someone up and not just text abt it

yeah see that kind of makes me like it though because its so low-stakes and uninvolving, i love watching it while i make dinner, its like putting on NPR or something

i definitely sympathize with serena, chuck and blair to some extent, and kelly r is like a veteran pro, dunno how you could say her acting is bad. she IS lily bass.

i dont *sympathize* with chuck at all but i think hes a fun/funny character and westwick is great at... doing whatever it is that makes chuck fun to watch

o i absolutely sympathize with his emotional hangups and daddy issues

serena is a tedious narcissist who suffers from some selective amnesia and chuck/blair are just garbage dumps

that is technically true, but the show is set up to make you sympathize with them, anyway. or at least like them better than the other characters. i should really stop posting given i have seen one season of this show a million years ago.

i think serena is v compassionate tbh

peter gallagher and marissa's mom on the oc are much better than anyone on gg. i only watched gg for seasons 1 and 2 i think, but the adults were always so dissapointing. also the oc had the hot aunt who is now on the mentalist that i am very attracted to.

not really fair to compare any of these actors to peter gallagher

whoah i just found out that activist guy summer hangs out with at brown is andy from parks and rec

god this thread has made my morning

i don't know what that says about my life

can we all at least agree that dan is the worst here?
YES.

also boo, i demand a write-in vote for Lord Marcus "I'm British!" Beaton etc

was he the one banging his mother?

stepmother, but yes.

xp i dont know how anyone could hate on a show that makes you ask questions like that

THANK YOU!!

blair waldorf x1000 i don't even know how this is a question

'leighton meester' is really very pretty. searching tumblr for 'blair' is always a traet

it baffles me that blake is the one with the chanel contract & vogue covers

blake's body and bone structure are ridic

Blake has legs like whoa

haha this thread is a v ilx take on gossip girl

you cannot deny blake's legs. however, i don't think that facewise she looks significantly better than leighton, who looks great onscreen bar that greasy mermaid hair she has this season.

although she has crap style irl so

she has a much stronger chin than meester, which matters in photos. but her laugh lines get in the way sometimes, whereas meester's complexion is perfect.

chin/jaw, really

i never "got" blake lively till i watched gossip girl, shes v pretty, leighton meester is more "my type" probably but theyre both really stunning, lets not forget vanessa of course

you know who's so hot, charlie

lol you can stop posting on WS but youll never stop WSing in your posts

but u prolly haven't gotten there yet maxy

no, sorry

http://www.phonesontv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Charlie-Rhodes-has-a-HTC-Wildfire-S-on-Gossip-Girl-Season-5-Episode-9-Rhodes-to-Perdition-.png

woah sorry bout size

for all my bitching i liked the charlie storyline

jessica szohr is gorgeous but her hair looked shit 100% of the time and they always put her in those awful outfits. when she slept with chuck and was wearing that low cut dress loads of people were like, omg she's hot.

charlie-as-ivy was a great reveal but there was so much weirdness around it.

remember the time grandma faked cancer and then got real cancer?

gyac otm re JS

i always saw her gorgeous potensh but her styling (hair, accessories) were beyond atrocious

but yeah charlie was like a good actress too, she was very entertaining and funny to watch (not to mention again hott)

greasy mermaid hair she has this season.

yeah wtf is up with blair's hair

i fuckin <3 this trashy show btw

and i voted chuck, as i'm sure surm already guessed

i am listening to the charlatans "loving you is easy" and it sounds like something you could hear on gossip girl

i mean ... i think rufus is suppoed to be dorky. duh, i know, but ... i don't think his indie awfulness is necessarily lamentable.

btw i also want to talk about jenny - she is pretty. except for when they fuck up her hair. and her styling. when they don't, i could see how she would be queen.

charlie actually LOOKS related to lily. I had a really hard time in the first season trying to convince myself lily and their mom from the OC weren't the same actress.

rufus is a stain on the show. the last thing this show needs is a moral compass. dan could probably go too. and the hair. holy crap.

so are we voting for best or worst?

haha charlie totally looks like she cld be related to the rhodes. also rufus is just a p terrible person so his role as 'moral compass' is p fraught.

looking forward to louis taking a hike too

i dont know how anyone could hate chuck. i liked his father too although he played pretty much the same character as he did in the oc. the only real diff was the california heartattack in the pool demise vs the new york town car in a wreck demise.

i saw a pic of misha barton on a jetski this week. shes still the visual peaches

btw i think surm and i should do aftershow podcasts. we'd make millions.

ok surm, sunny before i subscribe to this podcast juliette or ivy/charlie?

ugh i hate juliette

xp yes totes sunny

oh god. charlie, of course

juliette was on the new melrose and was very hot. they just didn't style her right for gg. at all.

look if you cant rock a gold or silver dress you shouldnt be all up in this shizz

ugh thank you

xoxo

oh fyi: in the books chuck was bisexual and walked around with a snow monkey on his shoulder

and nate was a really annoying stoner

didn't even kno there were books! but yeah - that chuck line about kissing boys is one of my favorites

also i love that he gets a fucking dog

voting Chuck, though I have a soft spot for Nate. So pretty, so dumb.

Also, he's the only one who makes Dan seem halfway tolerable, like in seasons 3 and 4 when they used to hang out a lot for seemingly no reason.

u guys are being hard on dan - i like him, but he totally butchered his hair after the 1st season, when it was cute

nate is everybody's friend, and one that knows how to have a good time at that

he's like the perfect party prince

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTgg5gYQC0WtisYD2PikWzjz9wjlYXPB_U7mpAWpSjwgSwVO31GCbvEgJ8C

otm he's the one the UES-ers go to for useful advice like how to bang cougars or scoring medicinal marijuana

i think for half a second i thought dan was better looking but pretty sure i've turned the corner on that one

dan is annoying and preachy and judgemental and humourless and not even vaguely attractive now.

i never bought the big-reveal of dan having loved blair all this time. seemed kind of lame.

the when harry met sally episode was kind of charming tho, if blasphemous

watched this for the first time in like a year the other day, can't tell what is going on at all. has everyone hooked up with everyone else yet? when is dan going to fuck lily?

mostly i just watch when ari is watching while we make dinner or whatever so ive missed some chunks

ie, the way you're going to watch Certified Copy?

the when harry met sally episode was kind of charming tho, if blasphemous

Speaking of copies! They ripped off a Woody Allen ripoff?

when is dan going to fuck lily?
surely if any of the main men fuck lily, it's going to be chuck

when harry met sally is a woody allen ripoff?

chuck: "i'll never have a real mother, blair. i never will."

blair: "that doesn't mean you're alone. i love you, chuck. and i'll always be your family."

talk about something u can sympathize with

god i love it when nate and serena get together

surm, have you seen Annie Hall & Manhattan?

i have - never really related them to when harry met sally in my mind though

it honestly really makes me upset about little j's extensions. she will look so good - almost perfect - and then the ends of her hair look like little pieces of coiled up string! awful.

even the rest of her hair will look so great, but then those curls at the ends ... i can't.

ok so i've had a realization. if this were "leighton" vs "blake" i would go leighton EASY

but in terms of the characters it makes it a little harder for me BUT i still think it should be blair pretty easily

had to fast forward through Serena/Blair scene at the end of this week

so excited for this wedding.

meanwhile the show's ratings continue to drop off-- only 1.1 million last week

How low would they have to go for the CW to cancel it?

Surely it's doing better than vampire diaries

I don't know why you wouldn't assume that The Vampire Diaries is the #1 show on the network. Which it is.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Don't mess with the Vampire Diaries fans, they are...devoted.

was there a new GG this week? fucking DVR

The Vampire Diaries is the only show on the CW that is not in danger of being cancelled, apparently. Countdown to the cancellation of the entire network, probably. Can't imagine they can run on post-Twilight mass hysteria alone.

i think the thing about juliet is that they purposefuly styled her badly so you wouldn't like her

honestly who could like that hair, and those clothes

except for nate, that stoner

Hmm. I guess I'm underestimating the fantasy fan base. It wasn't that long ago that the CW ran solely on that 70s show and Becker reruns, no?

tbf i think 'gossip girl' is one of the most popular shows to stream/download so its published ratings arent the best gauge of its actual popularity

also i mean this is the network thats still (i think?) airing new episodes of 'one tree hill' so

Final season thank god

GG question. What happened to Blair, Vanessa, Dan etc going to NYU and Serena going to Columbia? Did they all forget they were in college simultaneously?

the concept of one tree hill's existence never ceases to fill me with wonder and joy

college is a fantastic question lol

but blair transferred to columbia never forget

and vanessa was banished

True

GG question. What happened to Blair, Vanessa, Dan etc going to NYU and Serena going to Columbia? Did they all forget they were in college simultaneously?

nate - occasionally mentions school every now and again
blair - get her mrs and dropped out
vanessa - i think shes supposed to be doing a 'year abroad' so is presumably still in school but who cares
serena - was 'taking time off' to do internships or s.thing? i guess once she slept with the only former underwear model teaching at columbia there wasnt much left for her to do there

dan i cant remember if he dropped out or not, at the beginning of the season he kept mentioning school but now hes an author so i guess he dropped out? i think its still an unresolved plot point...

all caught up on this now.

found this buried in NYMag comments - https://twitter.com/#!/grynbaum/status/162585268724039680

.@MikeBloomberg says he doesn't understand how Blair could marry the prince "when she's clearly in love with Chuck"

guy also tweets @ max

FULL CIRCLE.

o speaking of bloomberg -- did you see this?

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/7/2012/01/cb3aadcb46b9df5eeb9d54b9d0d9530e.jpg

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media-cdn/jj1/headlines/2012/01/blake-lively-gossip-girl-mayoral-proclamation.jpg

love this pairing

it's who you know!

Penn Badgley's shirt smh

I did, loved it!

Ed letting the side down there.

bahahaha @ the use of king crimson's "21st century schizoid man" in 4th season after gossip girl's line "does SVW have an STD?"

so glad we have so long to vote on this, serena lookin mad hot on the first day of school at columbia in black short shorts and a bright yellow top

so...the wedding ep too bad to discuss?

i fell asleep after diamonds are a girl's best friend

juliet "do u rly think i wd have been keymaster of hamilton house if ppl knew i did my own hair"

it shows sweetums

Hahaha

omg i totally forgot that blair calls her on it too

"you can believe the part where she does her own hair"

i voted btw

u know, i never really realized just HOW unattractive jenny gets later on. like when they keep bringing her back from "hudson" . . . wow

are you rewatching all the episodes surm?

I watched some of the pilot and Jenny was just adorable

xp i am -- i actually never saw the first season until i started rewatching. GG was always like a whatever thing for me but then i realized i liked it, so i netflixed it, and now i'm hooked.

sunny, she so was

what i like about netflix is that i can watch things when i take a break from other stuff i'm doing, just like sneak in a small segment of time for brainless zoning out

blair re juliet "what do u say we find that bitch and get us a little frontier justice"

snappp

i really wish juliette had actually just killed them all

i have to admit that serena's been getting on my nerves

did i already mention that? she just kisses everybody

llots of guy on guy an girl ond girl extras making out in the opening kristen bell monolougue lately. remember when that was a huge thing to show on tv?

i hadnt noticed that on gg specifically but yeah things have def changed in the last ten years. affiliates used to refuse to air episodes w/same sex kisses!!

this show has been p good again lately

I love Georgina - can she just be GG forever? Or maybe I just love seeing manipulative schemes and twists on the show again now that Blair can't even wrangle her way out of a unconsummated marriage to a lisping prince.

*an

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lol dan

meester was on a recent marie claire, amazing photo, interesting article