2012 republican presidential nominee IV: NEEDS MORE BOOING

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have at it

iatee, Friday, 2 March 2012 23:44 (thirteen years ago)

booo

lag∞n, Friday, 2 March 2012 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

boooo-urns

be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 March 2012 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

Yay! (Wrong thread?)

clemenza, Friday, 2 March 2012 23:50 (thirteen years ago)

^ canadians

iatee, Friday, 2 March 2012 23:51 (thirteen years ago)

Boooooo...

clemenza, Friday, 2 March 2012 23:51 (thirteen years ago)

Rip breetbort

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Saturday, 3 March 2012 01:58 (thirteen years ago)

Super Tuesday coming up. I can feel my bowels loosening with excitement. btw, am I the only one who thinks that Newt's campaign kind of vanished in a puff of smoke when his Nevada sugar daddy stopped doling out multi-million dollar candy canes?

Aimless, Saturday, 3 March 2012 02:05 (thirteen years ago)

He's doling out money again, so he'll be spending in Georgia and then the week after in Alabama and Mississippi. Said Sugar Daddy has admitted that he wants either Newt or Mitt, and will do anything to stop Santorum.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Saturday, 3 March 2012 02:11 (thirteen years ago)

what does adelson have against santorum? i thought adelson's main thing was israeli hawkishness, but i find it hard to believe that ricky is lacking in that quality.

mookieproof, Saturday, 3 March 2012 02:41 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not sure exactly. Reportedly he doesn't like Santorum's socially conservative views, or at the very least he doesn't like the way it ruins the chances of the Republicans beating Obama.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Saturday, 3 March 2012 02:46 (thirteen years ago)

all that anti-sex bullshit is not particularly popular among Jews ime

be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 3 March 2012 02:55 (thirteen years ago)

puritanism is a distinctly Xtian feature in America politics

be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 3 March 2012 02:55 (thirteen years ago)

I like this (Ed Kilgore, assessing Romney going into Tuesday): "But then again, it would be perfectly in character for him to find another way to inform Ohioans he could buy and sell the lot of them with pocket change."

clemenza, Saturday, 3 March 2012 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

Today's WA GOP caucus: boring, not booing.
Basically a boring 4-way split where Romney kinda sorta won.
I was hoping Paul would win only because it cause another panicked GOP media frenzy, but maybe it's best that it was non-resolving instead.
And the whole Dems Voting For Santorum thing is really lame.

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Sunday, 4 March 2012 07:20 (thirteen years ago)

Scenes from the WA GOP cauci:

http://i39.tinypic.com/9s9on8.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/o8aw6b.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/4tafch.jpg

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Sunday, 4 March 2012 08:53 (thirteen years ago)

(pics from the seattle times)

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Sunday, 4 March 2012 08:58 (thirteen years ago)

Profiles in courage: Eric Cantor endorses Romney.

clemenza, Sunday, 4 March 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

Man nobody in those pics looks happy xp

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Sunday, 4 March 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

They're all -- what is even the point.

pplains, Sunday, 4 March 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

Gingrich has been on Meet the Press, Face the Nation, This Week, and State of the Union today. His one-man crusade against the elite media rages on.

clemenza, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

Where's Tyee?

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Sunday, 4 March 2012 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

Anyone listen to George Will's remarks about Limbaugh on "This Morning"? It revives, depressingly, the moribund idea that he is a Smart Republican Worth Listening To.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2012 02:24 (thirteen years ago)

"YOUTH FOR RON PAUL" ugh

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 5 March 2012 03:01 (thirteen years ago)

maybe some of these paulies will have a reverse-david horowitz and become raging left-wing radicals.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 5 March 2012 03:01 (thirteen years ago)

not up to par i think but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js3BYcHmBhE

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 5 March 2012 03:14 (thirteen years ago)

I heard Will this morning. What he said was fine.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 03:27 (thirteen years ago)

George and Matthew slapped their knees and thought "Ain't this a corker?!" when they heard that salad fork remark.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2012 03:38 (thirteen years ago)

It was a funny line. You've decided he isn't worth listening to, so you don't listen--I mean, you're gauging the reactions of people around him.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 03:44 (thirteen years ago)

Why would I have posted if I hadn't listened to it?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2012 03:47 (thirteen years ago)

Not what I meant...I mean not listen as in you've already decided he's incapable of saying anything smart or funny.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 03:53 (thirteen years ago)

As as fat-free sugarless substitute for Beltway wit he's ok if you ignore his history about being wrong about everything in the last thirty years except Ross Perot and Afghanistan. The HuffPost among others this afternoon revived the notion that Will is the Smart, Adult Conservative thanks to this remark, without qualification. It's worth bringing up because it's as loony a notion as taking Santorum seriously.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2012 03:55 (thirteen years ago)

as = a

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2012 03:55 (thirteen years ago)

I'm just saying that it's okay to credit him with being right about this one thing, and in a way that I thought was quite funny, without implying that you think he's a genius. He says stuff on TV. Sometimes he's good.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 03:59 (thirteen years ago)

George Will says more than enough facepalmingly stupid things that I am no longer decieved by the fact that he employs a larger vocabulary and longer sentences than the average shill for Republican foolishness. He may have a fancy education, but he still talks shit most of the time.

Aimless, Monday, 5 March 2012 04:01 (thirteen years ago)

I like Rick Nielsen too. I guess bow ties have a fundamentally overpowering allure for me.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 04:19 (thirteen years ago)

maybe some of these paulies will have a reverse-david horowitz and become raging left-wing radicals.

they would have to start giving a shit about other people which is something we can pray for i guess

blank, Monday, 5 March 2012 04:24 (thirteen years ago)

George Will and Newt Gingrich are proof that you can get people to think you're smart through the sheer force of persona.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 5 March 2012 04:51 (thirteen years ago)

The right audience doesn't hurt either.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 5 March 2012 04:54 (thirteen years ago)

I like Rick Nielsen too. I guess bow ties have a fundamentally overpowering allure for me.

― clemenza, Sunday, March 4, 2012 8:19 PM Bookmark

Tucker Carlson.

marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Monday, 5 March 2012 05:05 (thirteen years ago)

Louis Farrakhan

http://freddiebell.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/louis_farrakhan.jpg?w=468

Aimless, Monday, 5 March 2012 05:45 (thirteen years ago)

Pee-Wee Herman:

http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/pee-wee-herman-20090810-174119.jpg

Me, Halloween 1998:

http://phildellio.tripod.com/surrender.jpg

What can I say? Our little group has always been, and always will until the end.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 11:26 (thirteen years ago)

Frum lets'er rip.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

Frum and Will are saying almost exactly the same thing. Why is Will worthy of derision, while Frum is "letting it rip"?

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

Because one is George Will and the other is David Frum

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

The Seventh Inning Stretch of Evil.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

I like David Frum fine--he's been great the last couple of years--but I don't get that. If they're making the same point, and Will's doing it in a way that's funny, then kudos to both.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

imo the worst part is the rest of the abc panel giggling at the 'salad fork' joke.

goole, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

Rush attempts to explain himself.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

"Let's'er rip" is one of my oft-used phrases for links, used sarcastically or sincerely.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se2jXRJJs4Y

Flagpost Sitta (Phil D.), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

They thought it was funny, so they laughed. I laughed too. It was a good line. I wasn't thinking about anything Will might have written about Walter Mondale in 1984.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

imo the worst part is the rest of the abc panel giggling at the 'salad fork' joke.

and reinforced the impression that the Beltway punditocracy is a merit-based circle jerk (educated people, see, know the difference between forks).

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

Those two words were inappropriate, uncalled for, and actually distracted from the point I was trying to make

oh fuck you

be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

If you find Will funny, as I do sometimes, I think that's part and parcel of why you find him funny--his snobbish and carefully calculated detachment from the world. I just don't see it as anything worth getting upset about.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

I admit: I own two of his collections.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

by the way, if you think I'm mocking you for finding Will's remark funny, that's not at all my intention. He's made me laugh too. I used his remark as an excuse to write about how repugnant Will is generally.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

I'm going to the mat for him. He's a great man, and he should be added to Mount Rushmore.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

oh god 'legal insurrection'

goole, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

oh god #IAmAndrewBreitbart and #RallyForRush

Ham House showdown (Dan Peterson), Monday, 5 March 2012 18:17 (thirteen years ago)

If Frum truly believes that Limbaugh's three-day outburst was "the bottom of the barrel of shock talk", then either he has an exalted idea of human self- restraint or else no idea of the depths to which humans are willing to descend .

Aimless, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

"...of shock talk"

goole, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

For bottom of the barrel commentary, go for this instead. All the man's tics on display: the equivocation, condescension.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

Rush: "Only the leftists try to use extortion, pressure, threats to silence opposing voices…."

Morning becomes apopleptic (Michael White), Monday, 5 March 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

Goldberg reminds me of that Lincoln quote about packing the most words into the fewest ideas.

Morning becomes apopleptic (Michael White), Monday, 5 March 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

Chris Wallace on Fox showed Santorum the video clip of Obama making the case for all kinds of further education and training, not just 4 year colleges...

Santorum acknowledged that he might have made a mistake.

"Look, maybe I've read some comments where at least it was characterized that the president said we should go to four-year colleges," he said. "If I was in error, you said you haven't found that, I certainly read that… if it was an error, I agree with the president that we should have options for a variety of training."

Santorum's defensive answers to Wallace re Catholicism and birth control, and his lack of charity donations are uh, entertaining as well

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/04/rick-santorum-fix-news-birth-control_n_1319393.html

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

http://images.politico.com/global/2012/03/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.jpg

Flagpost Sitta (Phil D.), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

^^^ Real life LOL!

Ham House showdown (Dan Peterson), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

that's really great

iatee, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

omg

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

cheap and funny

kind of a weird filename tho

goole, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

That cover's great...up there with the secret lives of Obama/Michelle cover from 2008.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

jonathan bernstein thinks we should lock this thread

http://plainblogaboutpolitics.blogspot.com/2012/03/endorsements-party-actors-and-2012.html

It sure seems to me that events to date have been all about Mitt Romney wrapping up a very open nomination quickly and fairly easily. Not as easily as George W. Bush did in 2000 (when he had a much better record of endorsements). But to me, Romney's nomination is quite comparable to the nominations of Kerry in 2004, Dole in 1996, and Dukakis in 1988, and a lot more certain a lot earlier than that of McCain last time around. That seems to very much fit a model in which party actors compete and coordinate on nominations and voters in primaries and caucuses ratify it, rather than a model in which candidates compete in a weak party environment and voters in primaries and caucuses determine the nomination. Yes, there's been momentum and press effects and other stuff that has produced a few oddball primary and caucus results, but none of that has really, as far as I can see, done as much to shape the contest as has decisions by party actors. In particular, the party's apparent lack of interest in Rick Santorum, seen through a lack of high-profile endorsements after Iowa and again after Colorado and Minnesota, appear to have been far more predictive than Santorum's strong showing in those states.

No one believes -- and I certainly don't believe -- that a "party decides" view of the nomination process rules out stray candidates winning the occasional primary or caucus. What matters is the nomination. And it sure looks to me as if the nomination has been over for a long time, exactly as those of us who push this view would have expected given most indications of party actor support.

goole, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

Initiate lockdown.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:32 (thirteen years ago)

Romney's 2009 USA Today op-ed in which he encouraged Obama to pass something very much like the individual mandate that he now disowns:

Our experience also demonstrates that getting every citizen insured doesn't have to break the bank. First, we established incentives for those who were uninsured to buy insurance. Using tax penalties, as we did, or tax credits, as others have proposed, encourages "free riders" to take responsibility for themselves rather than pass their medical costs on to others. This doesn't cost the government a single dollar.

http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20090730/column30_st.art.htm

o. nate, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

it makes absolutely no sense to compare this to kerry 2004. there's a big difference between 'everybody else lost' and 'romney won' even though the end result is the same.

iatee, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

I want to frame that New Yorker cover.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

Best cover since the Blitt terrorist fistbump.

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

But Norquist has forgiven Romney for the 2009 "mandate" op-ed:

Anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist said Monday that Mitt Romney made a "mistake" in advocating the individual mandate as part of the president's healthcare reform law, but that he was encouraged that the Republican front-runner had shifted "in favor of liberty" and now opposes the requirement.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/214077-norquist-romney-made-a-mistake-in-pushing-individual-mandate

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

xps: i think the point is to put this primary contest well within recent historical norms, and mark out the 08 republican primary as a real outlier

goole, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

all polling showing romneys gonna deliver the knockout punch 2moro :/

lag∞n, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

Jonathon Bernstein is almost certainly correct that the anti-Mitt forces aren't organized enough to stop his getting the nomination, and the nomination is all that matters in the end. What is fascinating to me is the visceral strength of the anti-Mitt emotions among Republicans, and the fact that Mitt (I think) has yet to crack 50% of the vote anywhere, including Michigan. To me, this smells like a sizable chunk of the Republican base sitting on its hands in the general election.

Aimless, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

I think the problem is the gop today can't operate as a 'party' in the same manner as previous elections. there was something different about this election - the 15-different frontrunners pattern was abnormal. romney didn't end up w/ this because of party support - he's still not got that much considering how far into the game we are. he ended up w/ this because none of the other candidates were remotely credible as national figures. that is also not normal.

iatee, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

idk. they (and lots of LOTS of white moderates) really, really hate this Obama dude.

xpost

it's smdh time in America (will), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

but it is probably the new normal. xp

iatee, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

all polling showing romneys gonna deliver the knockout punch 2moro :/

the gaggle of newt lovers in georgia is really bummed about this btw

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

If Newt edges Mitt (I love these names, btw) in Georgia, then Newt'll announce himself as still viable and continue his crusade for Newtthink.

Aimless, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

Gingrich is going to do more than barely edge out Mitt in Georgia: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/03/split-decision-for-super-tuesday.html

In Georgia Gingrich leads with 47% to 24% for Romney, 19% for Santorum, and 8% for Paul.

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

its his home state therefor doe not matter

lag∞n, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

Newt determines what matters, not what the mainstream liberal media tells you matters. Everyone knows that!

Aimless, Monday, 5 March 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

o right my bad

lag∞n, Monday, 5 March 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

Anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist said Monday that Mitt Romney made a "mistake" in advocating the individual mandate as part of the president's healthcare reform law, but that he was encouraged that the Republican front-runner had shifted "in favor of liberty" and now opposes the requirement.

Did anyone listen to the episode of This American Life with Norquist this weekend? It was very depressing.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 5 March 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

did it turn out he was a happy and well-adjusted person with a keen sense of life's limitations and ironies?

goole, Monday, 5 March 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

I have it in my head that Grover Norquist sleeps with a giant Planter's Mr. Peanut statue next to his bed, but I have been unable to corroborate this tidbit for years and have no idea where I first heard it

be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 March 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

he uses a giant tub of goldfish snacks as a side table iirc

lag∞n, Monday, 5 March 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

Meanwhile, in the world of photos are just what they are:

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff200/baseball_crank/Blog/George-Bush-and-Mitt-Romney-460x307.jpg

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 March 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

Mitt Romney Inhales George H. W. Bush's Soul

Flagpost Sitta (Phil D.), Monday, 5 March 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

its just a thing mormons do everybody be cool

lag∞n, Monday, 5 March 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

HW tells romney how the rest of the "there once was a man from nantucket" limerick goes

goole, Monday, 5 March 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

haha that is the liveliest, most human picture of Mitt I've ever seen

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Monday, 5 March 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

"That, uh, dog thing on the roof--looks bad, not prudent."
"It must have been super-keen being president!"

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23conservativepoliticalcartoons

lag∞n, Monday, 5 March 2012 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

are these supposed to be parodies of cartoons or sincere suggestions?

Moodles, Monday, 5 March 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

Best hash tag ever?

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Monday, 5 March 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/520957/MITT-ROMNEY-OR-MR-BURNS.jpg

be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 March 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

Perfect.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

Grover Norquist on daily show last week was A+ (might have been an old interview)

⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 5 March 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

New Yorker cover FTW

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 00:04 (thirteen years ago)

NBC Nightly News story on the current polls tonight asserted that infighting was the big factor on their bad numbers, as though they all haven't damaged themselves in the campaign.

timellison, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 01:58 (thirteen years ago)

A win is a win is a win. Except when it's a partial win, or a predictable win, or an empty win. Or something.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/03/the_definition_of_a_winner_has_become_elusive_in_this_year_s_republican_primary_.html

clemenza, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 03:38 (thirteen years ago)

or a shootout win

mookieproof, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 03:40 (thirteen years ago)

Now that you mention it, maybe they need Bill James to sort out cheap wins (Romney tomorrow in Virginia) from tough losses (Santorum in Michigan).

clemenza, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 03:59 (thirteen years ago)

love isnt top 5 but hes best at his position imho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 04:06 (thirteen years ago)

oops rong thread

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 04:06 (thirteen years ago)

Not necessarily--that's a pretty good description of Romney.

clemenza, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 06:21 (thirteen years ago)

gp re gop playing w/fire on contraception http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/03/the_wobbly_top.php

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

Greenwald’s penchant for telling bold truths that the corrupted partisans are too blind to see, in a manner that in no way is sanctimonious, is an inspiring example for us all.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/03/ny-times-symposium-beats-straw-man-mercilessly.html

Mordy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

lol burn

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:34 (thirteen years ago)

the overt burn in the next sentence was harsher

But he does tend to struggle with other aspects of his job, such as reading comprehension.

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

Damned bearded socialist:

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/522670/thumbs/s-SANTORUM-large.jpg

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

Obviously persecuted for his conservative chugging abilities

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

She explained the Rooster technique: "You just open your throat."

be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

Everybody called him "Rooster." And Rooster liked to chug.

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

here they come to kill the roooooster yeaaaha

be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

good luck tonight mitt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=gJSARj_KZfU

goole, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

lol pwn

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

whats that weird laugh he does at the end is he making fun of the press corps fake loling or something

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

masterful regardless

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

so MSNBC was just showing a series of clips of Romney talking about how Obamacare is based on his Massachusetts plan and how he was glad he was doing it. why haven't the other candidates used these more?

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)

Boy, this Obama presser was a doozy, huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ64KQCY7ro

the Hilary Clinton of Ghostface Killahs (Phil D.), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

lol asking the other reporters if they think this guy from fox is out of his mind or what is cold blooded

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

why does he save this for election years

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

Because that's when everyone's paying attention.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't realize Ed Henry left CNN to go to Fox, but it makes perfect sense.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

why does he save this for election years

― Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 6:01 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its an interesting question

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

"Of course I didn't raise gas prices, I was running for office."

pplains, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

ha yeah i thought of that too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:11 (thirteen years ago)

why does he save this for election years

― Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 6:01 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its an interesting question

But in early 2009 wasn't there some Republican function he spoke at where he pretty much embarrassed the shit outta them?

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:13 (thirteen years ago)

ha yes what was that abt he showed up at some lil get together they we having spanked them and went home

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

haha yeah that was fantastic

I basically wanted his entire presidency to be that nonstop

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:18 (thirteen years ago)

whats that weird laugh he does at the end is he making fun of the press corps fake loling or something

He's saying "uhhhhh" or "ahhhh" while he looks for the next reporter to call on, and catching a laugh in the middle of it.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:21 (thirteen years ago)

I basically wanted his entire presidency to be that nonstop

Yeah, I want more of the professor melded with the coach; a guy who knows his shit and will happily shut anybody down who dares step up.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:24 (thirteen years ago)

i keep waiting for a pithy line from Morbs but alas

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:27 (thirteen years ago)

2nd term is gonna be like that every day, just watch

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:27 (thirteen years ago)

^^^egging on the fruition of my mother's prediction that he's going to be a hardcore socialist if he gets re-elected

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

fingers crossed

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:30 (thirteen years ago)

obama is not going to change his game in the 2nd term, y'all

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:31 (thirteen years ago)

yes isn't it pretty to think so

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:31 (thirteen years ago)

^^^egging on the fruition of my mother's prediction that he's going to be a hardcore socialist if he gets re-elected

― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 6:29 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah and every other deluded liberal

bron paul (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:35 (thirteen years ago)

we are all fated in life to wander around disappointed, punctuated by brief moments of narcotic delusiveness.

Mordy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

she's a terrified social conservative! xpost

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

we can't all be wrong

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:40 (thirteen years ago)

Obama runnin that press conference like a boss lol

be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

one explanation often proffered by political scientists as to why obama and other presidents dont stay in super destructo campaign mode 24/7 is that its detrimental to policy goals, studies have shown that when the president uses the oft pined for bully pulpit it more likely than not will serve only to polarize the debate over whatever pending legislation were talking abt thereby reducing its chances of passing, the on again off again ass kicking which plays well to voters but not legislators is m/l a feature of our particular form of government and political climate

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:59 (thirteen years ago)

btw our form of government is lo qual

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:00 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh2DeQtVyJM

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:00 (thirteen years ago)

god bless em, man was a natural

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:02 (thirteen years ago)

so MSNBC was just showing a series of clips of Romney talking about how Obamacare is based on his Massachusetts plan and how he was glad he was doing it. why haven't the other candidates used these more?

― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 5:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i read that they just hadnt found the clips maybe, its baffling

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:03 (thirteen years ago)

then again santorum/gingrich/paul have like ten campaign staff between them

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:03 (thirteen years ago)

They were three or four on Hardball (I think) of him on Meet the Press as well as other major broadcast networks. How can anyone NOT dig those up earlier? xpost

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:05 (thirteen years ago)

I can't wait for another witty president like Reagan! Thumbs up anybody??

mah575992 2 days ago

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:05 (thirteen years ago)

Well it's out there now, and maybe it's too late for the other candidates to beat up on Romney, but it significantly weakens his anti-Obamacare stance in the general. xpost

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:05 (thirteen years ago)

yeah its mystifying idgi either

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:08 (thirteen years ago)

Gingrich has won Georgia (shock)

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:14 (thirteen years ago)

Well it's out there now, and maybe it's too late for the other candidates to beat up on Romney, but it significantly weakens his anti-Obamacare stance in the general. xpost

― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 6:05 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i do wonder how obama's gonna play this. "i preferred you before you were running for president, when you agreed with me."

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:20 (thirteen years ago)

or is obama going to run from his own legislation?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:20 (thirteen years ago)

Probably not since he's not a total idiot.

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:21 (thirteen years ago)

we are all fated in life to wander around disappointed, punctuated by brief moments of narcotic delusiveness.

― Mordy, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 6:38 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

merely the stars' tennis balls iirc

bron paul (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:21 (thirteen years ago)

romney is p well known for flip flopping iirc

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:22 (thirteen years ago)

get your own abbrev bro

bron paul (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:24 (thirteen years ago)

sry

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:26 (thirteen years ago)

pourmecoffee ‏ @pourmecoffee
Romney win in Virginia sends strong message that voters prefer candidates who get on the f---ing ballot.

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:27 (thirteen years ago)

one explanation often proffered by political scientists as to why obama and other presidents dont stay in super destructo campaign mode 24/7 is that its detrimental to policy goals, studies have shown that when the president uses the oft pined for bully pulpit it more likely than not will serve only to polarize the debate over whatever pending legislation were talking abt thereby reducing its chances of passing, the on again off again ass kicking which plays well to voters but not legislators is m/l a feature of our particular form of government and political climate

― lag∞n, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 6:59 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well 1) lol @ political "scientists" who have like 5 presidents worth of data with which to work but yeah i don't think bamma using the bully pulpit is some sort of panacea, its usefulness probably depends more on the popularity of the president than anything else if i had to guess, otoh i don't see how we could become any more polarized than we are now, or how it would even affect things one way or another, so i say go for it for our sakes/the lols

bron paul (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:29 (thirteen years ago)

I think people looking it with 5 presidents worth of data is better than people looking at it with their own imaginary logic about how things work

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:31 (thirteen years ago)

works remarkably well for me

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:32 (thirteen years ago)

imaginary logic is the best kind of logic

be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:39 (thirteen years ago)

I think people looking it with 5 presidents worth of data is better than people looking at it with their own imaginary logic about how things work

― iatee, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 7:31 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:40 (thirteen years ago)

oh no doubt but my armchair logic relatively speaking is more sound than saying like maybe vaccines cause autism

bron paul (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:41 (thirteen years ago)

Romney gets Virginia and Vermont

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:41 (thirteen years ago)

otoh i don't see how we could become any more polarized than we are now, or how it would even affect things one way or another, so i say go for it for our sakes/the lols

― bron paul (k3vin k.), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 7:29 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well one thing is a lot of legislation that actual becomes law is bipartisan and gets crafted behind closed doors and then rushed through congress before it can get politicized so in that formulation the president being all 'hey theres this wonderful bill in committee' is not really helpful, unless hes using reverse psychology and he really hates it

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:43 (thirteen years ago)

feel the mittmentum!

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:43 (thirteen years ago)

idk how we got to talking about this, anyway in this climate i don't think any pres can really influence major policy on most issues requiring him to work w/ congress, i was just sayin

bron paul (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:44 (thirteen years ago)

also five presidents isnt just five data points, its thousands

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:44 (thirteen years ago)

obama should make santorum win some primaries using bully pulpit

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:47 (thirteen years ago)

Is there any indication that Romney's flip-floppery has done him any quantifiable harm? I mean, assuming his current platform completely synced up with my beliefs, I'd really have no basis for believing that would continue being the case for any appreciable amount of time based on his ever-shifting politics. Yet he still has supporters. So going after him on the basis of his self-contradictions sadly seems like a non-starter. I mean, everyone surely knows that about him now, right?

Offal Waffle (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:52 (thirteen years ago)

it's not a non-starter, he's had a really rough primary season and only won this because everyone around him would be considered a crazy streetperson in any other developed western country

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:54 (thirteen years ago)

ugggh mitt. now we get four more years (assuming obama wins) of angry baby-men whining about establishment RINOs

it's smdh time in America (will), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:55 (thirteen years ago)

no it's good it means they will run crazy people and lose winnable elections again

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:59 (thirteen years ago)

Josh Marshall ‏ @joshtpm Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Latest exits show it getting really tight in Ohio. Just +1 for Mitt.

rick has life yet! maybe!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:02 (thirteen years ago)

No he doesn't. It'll be spun as a referendum on Romney though.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:03 (thirteen years ago)

man rick santorum is for real u dont even know

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:04 (thirteen years ago)

One of my guys won gold in badminton today. The only thing that could make me happier now is an outpouring of Super Tuesday love for Mitt.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:05 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think it's possible for Santorum to get that magic delegate number no matter what.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:09 (thirteen years ago)

no he is done 4, the question is whether he can keep being a pest

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:10 (thirteen years ago)

thats what they said abt another guy and his name was jesus christ

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:11 (thirteen years ago)

Is there any indication that Romney's flip-floppery has done him any quantifiable harm?

depends on what you mean by "quantifiable" but I know a lot of Republicans who don't trust Romney specifically because of his prior stances that he has "flip-flopped" on, e.g. Romneycare

I really really hate flip-flop as a political term btw

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:13 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it's pretty awful but I don't think it's going anywhere

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:14 (thirteen years ago)

I remember during 2004 being like 'are you seriously gonna keep saying that word' but at this point who cares

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:15 (thirteen years ago)

Supposedly it's hurt him badly with independents...whatever they are.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:16 (thirteen years ago)

injuring yr opponents integrity is prob the most effective attack in all politics

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:16 (thirteen years ago)

cause voters knowing politicians never do what they say theyre gonna vote based on what kind of guy they are, studies show

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:17 (thirteen years ago)

That's why Newt fell apart--his legendary integrity was badly dented.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:18 (thirteen years ago)

obama's whole campaign should be him in bars getting beers w/ people w/ lots of attack ads about 'why doesn't mitt romney get beers with people'

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:19 (thirteen years ago)

That's why Newt fell apart--his legendary integrity was badly dented.

― clemenza, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 8:18 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well it didnt take much reminding is why romneys attacks were so effective

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:19 (thirteen years ago)

btw this guy left office as a national disgrace

oh right thaaat guy

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:20 (thirteen years ago)

obama's whole campaign should be him in bars getting beers w/ people w/ lots of attack ads about 'why doesn't mitt romney get beers with people'

― iatee, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 8:19 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this would culminate in a nationally televised beer pong match the week before the election

which actually might be an improvement over the republican debates

bron paul (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:21 (thirteen years ago)

Interview with Palin on CNN as she votes. Every little thing she does is magic.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:21 (thirteen years ago)

beer pong match might win over some fratty republicans

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:22 (thirteen years ago)

(unless he sucks)

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:22 (thirteen years ago)

yeah feel like that would be big for the wall st donations

bron paul (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:23 (thirteen years ago)

I really really hate flip-flop as a political term btw

I totally agree when it's used indiscriminately for every instance of someone changing their position on an issue. I really don't have a problem with its use, however, to describe opportunistic douchebags with no core values shifting their position to suit whichever way the wind is blowing at the moment.

Offal Waffle (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:34 (thirteen years ago)

idk you guys used to like flip flopping

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:35 (thirteen years ago)

I was against the term before I was for it.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:35 (thirteen years ago)

In Miami we use "chank" instead of flip-flop to denote thong sandals. It comes from the Spanish word "chancleta."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:36 (thirteen years ago)

I really really hate flip-flop as a political term btw

otm x billions

mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:37 (thirteen years ago)

i don't understand how ppl can stand to watch cable television election coverage. it is literally painful to hear, no matter which station you're tuned to. WHYY wisely broadcasting Patti LaBelle performing at the Borgata Hotel in AC instead.

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:38 (thirteen years ago)

I hate flip-flops in general.

Santorum wins Tennessee.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:38 (thirteen years ago)

for once i feel like my vote meant something

it's smdh time in America (will), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:40 (thirteen years ago)

Happy for that, but I don't get how Romney finishes ahead of Gingrich there--shouldn't Gingrich do well everywhere in the south?

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:42 (thirteen years ago)

interview with palin on cnn = cnn going out of their way to put a reporter at the alaska caucus to mess with fox, by getting an exclusive interview with their paid contributor

omg loooool @ gingrich using the hulk hogan theme song

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:42 (thirteen years ago)

omg Newt Posters are a gas pump with "2.50"

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:42 (thirteen years ago)

Every Gingrich speech now is a psychodrama par excellence.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:46 (thirteen years ago)

omg loooool @ gingrich using the hulk hogan theme song

You're kidding. Jesus.

Offal Waffle (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:46 (thirteen years ago)

its sad how the world doesnt recognize newts obvious genius

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:47 (thirteen years ago)

"It's one thing to have lots of money, it's another thing to lie with that money"--is that aimed at Romney or his backers? I'm actually surprised Gingrich is still throwing out lines like this. I thought he was ready to cross the bridge into the magical land of acceptance.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:51 (thirteen years ago)

whatcha gonna do when newtamania runs wild on YOU

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:55 (thirteen years ago)

I will NEVER BOW TO A SAUDI KING

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:57 (thirteen years ago)

ThinkProgress ‏ @thinkprogress
UPDATE: Romney Wins: VA, VT, MA. Santorum Wins: OK, TN. Gingrich Wins: GA. Too Close to Call: OH. No Results: ND, ID, AK

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:57 (thirteen years ago)

fuckin' vercingetorix over here

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:57 (thirteen years ago)

Newt will always hit back when he's been hit. Newt will also hit you first whenever it suits him. Newt just likes the feeling of hitting other people.

Aimless, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:59 (thirteen years ago)

This is great. Newt quoting Obama at the press conference today: "'I'm worried about higher gas prices because they'll make it harder for me to get reelected'--I did not make that up." It's true, that's exactly what he said.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:59 (thirteen years ago)

And I know every American still lives in shame over the bowing-to-a-Saudi-king episode.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 02:01 (thirteen years ago)

wait does dude on the left actually have a sign that says newt-a-mania? i believe he does!

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 02:01 (thirteen years ago)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_qM6V6-HRzM0/S8iMpBghvuI/AAAAAAAADig/8XogJdBzYXE/obama-bow-king.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 02:02 (thirteen years ago)

Newt Gingrich Ideas ‏ @GingrichIdeas
Become a historian of my own campaign.

but most of all from this campaign i will miss the newt gingrich ideas twitter

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 02:03 (thirteen years ago)

Kathryn Jean Lopez ‏ @kathrynlopez

there's more to life than super tuesday (really!)

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 02:04 (thirteen years ago)

I can't imagine much more for her.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 02:28 (thirteen years ago)

Kinda hoping this all builds up to a complete slugfest in Texas with extra Perry LOLs.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 02:29 (thirteen years ago)

Santorum going hard against Obamacare and Mitt's Mass. program.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 02:31 (thirteen years ago)

He's seen those videos mentioned earlier. Shit just got REAL.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 02:32 (thirteen years ago)

Talking Points Memo ‏ @TPM
OHIO: 60% reporting - Santorum 38.2%, Romney 36.4% tpm.ly/zTmPU6

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:15 (thirteen years ago)

At 71% reporting it hasn't changed much. About 14,000 votes differently.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:27 (thirteen years ago)

whoa

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:30 (thirteen years ago)

differently? I meant "Between them".

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:31 (thirteen years ago)

and Santorum has won North Dakota.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:31 (thirteen years ago)

RICK! RICK! RICK! RICK! RICK!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:32 (thirteen years ago)

this is just like that other time he won all those states a few weeks ago!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:32 (thirteen years ago)

you really wonder what this would be like if gingrich had dropped out. if santo had georgia tonight too it'd be pretty hard to frame tonight as a romney win of any sort.

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:33 (thirteen years ago)

if santo wins ohio its gonna be reported as nothing but a v bad nite 4 mitt

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:35 (thirteen years ago)

yeah he underperformed but not bad enough to lose the nom

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:36 (thirteen years ago)

spin rooms "Romney could barely beat/lost to Santorum despite outspending him 12 to 1" etc etc

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:37 (thirteen years ago)

hmm intrade still has him 60% at winning ohio, maybe ppl are doing some math

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:37 (thirteen years ago)

romney at 81% to win the nom is ridiculous at this point. gah I wish it weren't so hard to put money on.

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:38 (thirteen years ago)

silver has already wtf'd intrade tonight

bron paul (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:38 (thirteen years ago)

did you guys forget to carry the one

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:39 (thirteen years ago)

yah bunch of people have been wtfing intrade on twitter

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:39 (thirteen years ago)

Josh Marshall ‏ @joshtpm
Ohio def tightening in Mitts favor.

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:40 (thirteen years ago)

santorum is getting squeezed out of ohio you say

flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:41 (thirteen years ago)

81% in and a slimmer difference of 6,000. Cincinnati will be interesting when it comes in.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:41 (thirteen years ago)

intrade is still small enough that one person who is willin to waste a lot of money can make weird things happen.

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:43 (thirteen years ago)

84% and Santorum is leading by about 2,700

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:44 (thirteen years ago)

that's why I sorta want a buncha wall st firms to get into it, get their quants busy pricing rick santorum, hundreds of nate silvers working at once

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:45 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not looking at where the votes are coming from but that 81 to 84 trend isn't a good one

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:46 (thirteen years ago)

more than half of cuyahoga yet to report and romney has huge adv there, also another cleveland suburban county prob favorable to romney hasn't reported at all

buzza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:49 (thirteen years ago)

medina county

buzza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:49 (thirteen years ago)

anyone who disagrees w/ that can make 10x their money on intrade atm

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:50 (thirteen years ago)

i think a lot of the cities were last to come in - a lot of cleveland is still out - romney is winning those areas. john king reporting this right now & suggests he will prob get enough votes there to take the lead?
cnn has really been v good on covering these primaries.

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:51 (thirteen years ago)

Looks like Romney's won Ohio. He's a strategic genius--embarrasses himself for a couple of hours, ekes out another one, "wins" the night.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:52 (thirteen years ago)

@jdickerson
The heels of the Santorum staffers just clicked out of this gym in OH at a quick pace like they know something...
8 minutes ago

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:52 (thirteen years ago)

romney is the guy who wins in the cities and santorum wins in the non-urban counties. as if there was any doubt, romney is the democrat of the republican primaries

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:53 (thirteen years ago)

Cleveland, Ohio - Though Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum are locked in a tight race statewide, Romney appears on his way to winning more delegates at the Congressional district level.

Based on results at this hour, Romney is in line with claim 34 delegates to Santorum's 22, with the allocation of one delegate too close to call.

Santorum has been running strong in rural areas, with Romney claiming more urban areas.

A major reason is that Santorum is not on the ballot for delegates being awarded in three Congressional districts: the 6th, 9th and 13th districts.

Forty-eight Ohio delegates to the Republican National Convention will be determined by votes at the congressional level, with 15 other delegates being determined by the overall vote.

buzza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:54 (thirteen years ago)

gdamn it i h8 u mittens

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:59 (thirteen years ago)

what's worst is how giddy he must be right now

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 04:00 (thirteen years ago)

To correct myself, obvious Romney doesn't win the night. But if he survives Ohio, he crawls forward in the right direction.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 04:00 (thirteen years ago)

dennis kucinich about to lose his primary.. wow

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 04:02 (thirteen years ago)

rip big man

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 04:02 (thirteen years ago)

he still has his wife at least

buzza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 04:03 (thirteen years ago)

Obama now unopposed in biggest-ears primary.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 04:04 (thirteen years ago)

Everyone knew at the beginning of the night that Romney was going to come out of Ohio with more delegates. The percentage is important for momentum and perception among voters/party elders/etc.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 04:06 (thirteen years ago)

dennis kucinich about to lose his primary.. wow

― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:02 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that was predictable, i think. he's up against a very popular representative who's been serving since the early 80s.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 04:08 (thirteen years ago)

oh was it a redistricting thing? i hadn't been paying attention

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 04:10 (thirteen years ago)

romney now with 1k lead at 84.7%

buzza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 04:10 (thirteen years ago)

oh was it a redistricting thing? i hadn't been paying attention

― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah. ohio lost 2 or 3 representatives and most of kucinich's district (around cleveland) was combined with much of kaptur's district (around toledo).

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 04:13 (thirteen years ago)

in this case, as in chicago etc., the primary is the general. i think the winner will face joe the "plumber" LOL

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 04:13 (thirteen years ago)

According to Sullivan, they're hovering around the margin (0.25%) where an automatic recount kicks in.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 04:16 (thirteen years ago)

kaptur is reliably liberal amirite?

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 04:22 (thirteen years ago)

have you ever seen a cuter KAPTUR?

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 04:38 (thirteen years ago)

in this case, as in chicago etc., the primary is the general. i think the winner will face joe the "plumber" LOL

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:13 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha amazing i would pay to see a plumber/kucinich debate rip

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 04:47 (thirteen years ago)

hey this horrible person isnt gonna be in congress any more http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/03/jean-schmidt-loses-house-seat-in-major-gop-primary-upset.php p cool

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 04:58 (thirteen years ago)

Wenstrup had challenged Schmidt from her right on such issues as the debt ceiling, pitching himself as a Washington outsider.

ha great. either an opportunist or a bigger crank

goole, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 05:02 (thirteen years ago)

I figured they would have called this for Romney by now.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 05:19 (thirteen years ago)

can't have people tuning out to go to bed finally can you?

goole, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 05:20 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, they're also pretty desperate to spin it in such a way that Santorum stays in and they can get another month out of this one.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 05:20 (thirteen years ago)

called by msnbc

It's sad he was a blogger (symsymsym), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 05:31 (thirteen years ago)

get the sense that if i super-right-winger runs on GOP ticket in schmidt's district, the seat might very well change parties.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 05:34 (thirteen years ago)

kaptur is reliably liberal amirite?

― kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yup.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 05:34 (thirteen years ago)

she's in the progressive caucus. kind of feel like kucinich could've sat this one out and just joined air america or something, i dunno. whatever.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 05:35 (thirteen years ago)

santorum is a zealot on a crusade, tho. i wonder how much actual reality it will take to grind the gross metric tonnage of that entire train to a halt.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 07:34 (thirteen years ago)

I think, delegate-wise, this is pretty insurmountable for him. However, if Newt magically decides to drop out (not likely) and Santorum starts picking up all of those delegates that the Ging is siphoning off of him, he could play a role. That, of course, combined with doubling down on the Romneycare/Obamacare thing which, with the right soundbites, could rip into Romney's credibility and set up a convincing argument that the General Election needs to be one of CONTRASTS.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 07:38 (thirteen years ago)

santorum is a zealot on a crusade, tho. i wonder how much actual reality it will take to grind the gross metric tonnage of that entire train to a halt.

― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, March 7, 2012 1:34 AM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so what you're saying is that in a few months we'll have to clean up after several gross metric tons of santorum?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 07:53 (thirteen years ago)

Should do wonders for the greenery

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 08:11 (thirteen years ago)

if Newt magically decides to drop out (not likely) and Santorum starts picking up all of those delegates that the Ging is siphoning off of him, he could play a role.

idk that more Gingrich supporters would go to Santorum than Romney. I know a lot of Gingrich's appeal is that he's a not-Romney, but another part of his appeal afaik is that he's a not-Santorum.

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 08:13 (thirteen years ago)

I don't agree with that. They see Gingrich as a straight-talking firebrand, and that's a lot of his appeal, but mostly because he's a straight-talking firebrand Conservative. His supporters don't see Romney as a Conservative, but they see Santorum as one. Romney's appeal is his business credentials (which neither Gingrich or Santorum have), his electability (which doesn't enter into it if you're a Gingrich supporter tbh), and *maybe* his status as a "Washington Outsider" by the fact that he's never actually held a position in DC, which obviously won't play into it with Gingrich or Santorum.

Really, Gingrich's only appeal is in the South, and they'll go with Santorum before they go out with a "Massachusetts Moderate".

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 08:30 (thirteen years ago)

One percent difference between out-and-out embarrassment and still-inevitable-by-default. Good job, Mitt.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 12:17 (thirteen years ago)

a) Eh, he could have dropped a load more points and still done well, he got 35/56 of the delegates

on the other hand

b) Also his list of states that he's got a majority of the vote in has gone up from one (Nevada's 50.1% lol) to four. Though one of them is Virginia, where his only opponent, Ron Fucking Paul, took 40% of the vote (and 6.5% of the delegates)

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

as if there was any doubt, romney is the democrat of the republican primaries

http://i40.tinypic.com/350kqwp.png

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

he could have dropped a load more points and still done well, he got 35/56 of the delegates

With much heartache, I've accepted that this is no longer about who's going to be the nominee. By embarrassment, I just meant whatever lingering damage Romney drags into the general (or if he does--it may all be forgotten come September and October if gas prices or something else is the story).

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

I think there is prob an important distinction in those maps in that obama's support was more cleveland-the-city and romney's is more cleveland-suburbs

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

I just meant whatever lingering damage Romney drags into the general

Which should be plenty at this point. I mean, he's been at this for years and nearly everything that's known about him has been repeated and beaten into the ground.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

it is an interesting pattern tho -- it doesn't really portend much in the way of who will win what states, but it does point to turnout issues, maybe. the pattern of which state contests he is winning is another version of it i think

if romney is best at firing up republicans in states that he is inevitably going to lose, and is deficient in states they will win, that's a problem (is it? my coffee is still kicking in)

though that pattern kind of held for obama vs clinton (he ran away with dems in red states -- though there's a racial pattern there that doesn't hold among republicans) and he won the general ok

goole, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it def points to rural turnout issues. much of which won't matter (romney doesn't need strong turnout in the deep south to win it) but ohio's a good example of a place that will

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

I think there is prob an important distinction in those maps in that obama's support was more cleveland-the-city and romney's is more cleveland-suburbs

Precinct-level voting data from the Cuyahoga County BOE shows that Obama won something like 1,200 out of 1,400+ voting precincts JFTR. About 430 of those are City of Cleveland.

the Hilary Clinton of Ghostface Killahs (Phil D.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

well the margin is more important than who won

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

It was just about 70-30 Obama.

the Hilary Clinton of Ghostface Killahs (Phil D.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

Continued joy at RedState. Well, *I'm* enjoying it, at least.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

looking for a map w/ the margins, here's 2004 tho:

http://copperas.com/cuyahoga/ss_cuykb.jpg

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

here we go:

http://blog.cleveland.com/datacentral/2008/11/large_cuyahoga-obama-mccain-results.jpg

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, that blue includes a lot of 'burbs (including mine!), and the deepest red ones are, not to put too fine a point on it, really white and really racist.

the Hilary Clinton of Ghostface Killahs (Phil D.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

well not all suburbs were created equal, just trying to emphasize the difference between obama's urban-area support and romney's (more 'urban' in uh every sense of the term...)

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

Those comments at Red State are full of people going through the stages of grief (most of them are in the acceptance stage at this point).

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

With much heartache, I've accepted...

We're working through this together.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

There's people comparing him to Putin!

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

Those comments at Red State are full of people going through the stages of grief (most of them are in the acceptance stage at this point).

And a few still stuck at denial.

The Real Question
Wednesday, March 7th at 7:32AM EST (link)
Would a nominee produced at the end of August still allow for sufficient time for an effective presidential campaign? I believe so.

On the sidelines in a trash can grumping (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

My mother-in-law posted this to Facebook this morning.

The object of the game of Obamopoly is to destroy American capitalism by having the government take over everything!
Want to play? No?
Too bad, you're already playing and just don't know it!
By the way ... You're not winning! Not as long as Obama is the President!!

Click like if you think that the game Obama is playing is designed to destroy American capitalism and to turn the country into a nanny, cradle to grave, entitlement state and our Founders would be ROLLING OVER IN THEIR GRAVE if they saw what Obama was doing.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/419025_362065360494430_103594823008153_1106743_1517721849_n.jpg

the Hilary Clinton of Ghostface Killahs (Phil D.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

LOL HUEG sorry

the Hilary Clinton of Ghostface Killahs (Phil D.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

The new Mount Rushmore!

http://images.politico.com/global/2012/03/120307_mitt_congrats_ap_328.jpg

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

kudos on tinting the 'get out of jail free' guy

goole, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

pretty sure general motors and chrysler should be in the purple spots

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

free porking

Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

so bottom line it for me:

is the GOP's Operation Total Clusterfuck still progressing as planned?

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

No Alinsky Avenune, Wright Boulevard, or Ayers Railroad. I assume they're represented somewhere in the Chance cards.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

we really need to redesign this and make it better

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

how the hell is goldman sachs not the boardwalk, I mean duh

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

Want to play? No?
Too bad, you're already playing and just don't know it!

haha

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

ps you know what's actually a terribly designed game: monopoly

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

Monopoly is great for 30 minutes, the problem is that it's a 4 hour game

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

My mother-in-law posted this to Facebook this morning.

This is why I'm not on Facebook, I know I would snap one day and tell my in laws how idiotic the things they are posting sound.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

it combines the fun of never ending w/ the fun of no real strategy

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

I guess the presidential elections are sorta like that

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

(The funny part is that my mother-in-law is 66, disabled, on Medicaid, lost her home to foreclosure last year, etc., etc., suffering a million other indignities as a result of the Bush era, and yet gleefully pulled the lever for Rick Santorum yesterday.)

(It's not actually funny.)

xxxp I only do it passive-aggressively and indirectly, Nicole.

the Hilary Clinton of Ghostface Killahs (Phil D.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

it combines the fun of never ending w/ the fun of no real strategy

― iatee, Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:48 AM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

spoken like a true monopoly loser, it tons of strategy its just all in the property trading segment of the game

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

I got an anti-Obama joke e-mail from a cousin a couple of weeks ago. I opened it with genuine trepidation--if there'd been racist garbage in it, that would have been a dilemma. Happily, it was more along the lines of Greenwald/Morbius complaints.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

Like, she's been posting all this stuff about Obama raising your gas prices, so I just posted something about how if you do not understand supply/demand and futures markets and think there's a magical "gas price" switch the president can pull, maybe you should stfu.

the Hilary Clinton of Ghostface Killahs (Phil D.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

the only way to lose monopoly is to start playing

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

w/e communist

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

lol @ Freddie Mac/Fannie being the cheapest properties

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

Monopoly is great for 30 minutes, the problem is that it's a 4 hour game

― Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:46 AM Bookmark

off-topic gamer nerd stuff but yeah - - it's definitely poorly-designed, or at least follows a model that's now pretty much dead, where the object is to actively drive other people out of the game one by one. Nobody actually wants to do that because it's not really fun for anybody involved, so you get this weird twisted inversion where people cut each other breaks, add the "land on free parking and get the wad of cash rule" and other things that actually result in the game becoming a four-hour slow-grind where you have even less fun. How they still sell copies of this thing is beyond me.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

what I always did as a kid was I would play w/ my brother, who was younger than me and dumb, and I would be the banker and slowly steal one bill at a time while he wasn't watching

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

driving people out of the game is totally fun!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

Monopoly was one of those activities that consumed literally hours of time as a kid but have no interest in resuming now.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

and youll have to tell any tournament that this model is 'dead'

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

I mean, the fun's over once people start building condos and shit

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

I have a pro-life fundie friend from high school who lives in Alabama and likes to post all kinds of nonsense on Facebook; when I respond, I usually write "give me a break" or "I know for a fact that you are smarter than this"

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

ya god forbid people build condos in america

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

Elections don't let you be the race car, only the thimble.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

there r no condos in monopoly gdamn it

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

We played a lot for a couple of years in high school. Very intense--tipped-over boards, thrown playing pieces, etc.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

OK, tournament, sure - - model is dead in terms of "family game night" people actually playing because they like hanging out with each other etc. Driving people out of the game may or may not be fun for the driver, for the person driven out it just sucks - what do they do? Go put a movie on? Fix drinks for everybody else? It's just awkward.

Actually would love to see a European designer fix Monopoly - - would just have it run for a set number of ticks around the board, after which the game would be over and you count out the money as victory points. Rather than chance and community chest there would be a bidding phase for different benefits and boons. Would actually be a decent game probably.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

lol that's like some games of risk where there is lots of note-passing diplomacy and deal cutting going on

xps but if forget to whom

goole, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

Everyone fought for the car but I wanted the top hat

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

i got the monopoly ipad app but it kind blows, risk is amazing on the other hand

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

Actually would love to see a European designer fix Monopoly

oh suuuuure. the mask slips!!

goole, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

perhaps i am really playing OBAMOPOLY after all

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

btw, with 10,370 ratings, monopoly has a 4.5/10 score on Boardgamegeek and is ranked #7,804 out of every board game ever

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

sure that's what we need: European fixes for American crises.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

"I know for a fact that you are smarter than this"

do you really?

mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

I learned not to ever comment on my super-conservative friends' posts when I got jumped on by about 10 tea partiers for trying to say that Planned Parenthood isn't actually a genocidal organization trying to keep blacks & poor people from reproducing. These people had literally insane ~things to say~ about Planned Parenthood.

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

doctor casino, what's the best rated mass produced boardgame on that site?

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

OK, tournament, sure - - model is dead in terms of "family game night" people actually playing because they like hanging out with each other etc. Driving people out of the game may or may not be fun for the driver, for the person driven out it just sucks - what do they do? Go put a movie on? Fix drinks for everybody else? It's just awkward.

― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:56 AM (48 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the cruelty of driving yr opponents out and the fear of having this humiliation perpetrated upon you and also that it involves money are clearly key to the incredible success of the game, regardless of whatever settlers of catan niceties are trendy in todays emasculated coward society

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

You all see the new version where there's no hard currency at all, only like debit cards and shit?

Like, why would you remove the thing from the game that's entered the popular lexicon? "Monopoly money" is a real and physically tangible thing, fun to throw at each other is disdainful wads

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

monopoly makes having lots of money boring, it is secretly communist

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

I refuse to believe there are 7,803 board games people play more often than monopoly

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

btw, with 10,370 ratings, monopoly has a 4.5/10 score on Boardgamegeek and is ranked #7,804 out of every board game ever

― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:59 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

who cares what board game geeks think, this is a real game for real people!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

Like, why would you remove the thing from the game that's entered the popular lexicon? "Monopoly money" is a real and physically tangible thing, fun to throw at each other is disdainful wads

assuming you've got wads left to throw

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

can't believe you actually bought the ipad app, so sad xp

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

well i may have not actually 'bought' it

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

do you really?

Yeah, actually; I mean, even allowing for how she was raised etc (child of batshit local fundie preacher), she was always gracious, kind, and did very very well in her classes, including sciences. It wasn't until she popped up on Facebook as a CC artist living in Alabama that she started exhibiting these dead zones of total lack of compassion. (By comparison, most of the other PKs I went to school with, all of whom were in the honors classes, are varying shades of liberal, particularly socially; abortion is the only sticking issue and most of them are still pro-choice even if they personally think abortion is murder.)

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

http://boardgamegeek.com/browse/boardgame where the fuck is checkers?

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

said in nixon voice in honor of gop thread

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

OBAMA DID THIS.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IvZc0zycMCM/RhmpohZEMWI/AAAAAAAAA20/BaGHhhsh4iI/s400/SOPRANOSTONYONFLOOR.jpg

pplains, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.magisterrex.com/prodimages/Anti-MonopolyFront-h450.png

brownie, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

I like that Apples to Apples is now distributed by Toys R Us & the like.

Now I'm just waiting for Carcasonne and Settlers of Catan to hit the major American toy/games distros.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

Boy, now that looks like a fun game.

xp

pplains, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

xpost

haha, I remember a friend of my mom had this when I was a little kid

They sell Settlers of Catan at Target

Moodles, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

her friend had anti-monopoly, I mean

Moodles, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

there was a copy of anti monopoly kicking around my house when i was a kid, a few times we attempted to play it couldnt figure out the rules and put it back on the shelf

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

There's a newer, better flavor of Anti- out there, which is based more on cooperation, but I can remember its name.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

monopoly is such a bad game. so is risk. even apples to apples is basically stupid. americans make the worst games. f america

max, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

you know what's an awesome game, is Pass the Pigs

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

it had tons of these v small colored paper circles in it that u were suposed to use for something

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

monopoly is such a bad game. so is risk. even apples to apples is basically stupid. americans make the worst games. f america

― max, Wednesday, March 7, 2012 12:10 PM (16 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fu

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

apples to apples is terrible tho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

what I always did as a kid was I would play w/ my brother, who was younger than me and dumb, and I would be the banker and slowly steal one bill at a time while he wasn't watching

Surely every game of Monopoly everywhere ends with the banker stealing all the money?

(insert zing here)

NEEDS MORE BOIIING (seandalai), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

Enh, I like it, but it depends on the crowd playing and how boringly literal minded they are

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

I like that Apples to Apples is now distributed by Toys R Us & the like.

Now I'm just waiting for Carcasonne and Settlers of Catan to hit the major American toy/games distros.

― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:08 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Games By James is a really cool store chain we have up here, kinda HARDCORE board game store and stuff

http://www.gamesbyjames.com/index.htm

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

it had tons of these v small colored paper circles in it that u were suposed to use for something

yes! i never got that game either. i now own Monsanto.

brownie, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

oh man GAMES BY JAMES

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

many many xposts: That's a good question actually! (I assume "mass produced" as in, like, you can find it at Target and Toys R Us etc.) I wonder if there's any kind of way to search that.

A few standbys:

Life: #7,814 (almost entirely luck-based, usually a no-no)
Trivial Pursuit: #7,677 (dunno why, probably just requires too much that's "external" to the game)
Risk: #6,256 (presumably these people play a lot of other more complex war games etc)
Taboo: #1,076
Apples To Apples: #956 (all game geeks like having some crowd-pleasers for the casual visitor etc)
Scrabble: #827
Bananagrams: #825 (quicker than Scrabble, more portable, easier to hook people)
Pente: #800
Big Boggle: #799 (see bananagrams)
Backgammon: #774
Euchre: #739
Cribbage: #328
Mahjong: #310
Chess: #249
Bridge: #175

and it's...

Magic: the Gathering: #134 (hahahahahha)

Candyland: not ranked, has a 3.2/10 ;_;

And, to give you an idea of the heart and soul of the place: #1 is Twilight Struggle, a three-hour, two-player card and map game where you play out the Cold War. I played this once with my brother. It was possibly the most satisfying game I've ever played and yet I don't know that I could ever play it again. Back on topic: the same makers made a very similar game for the 1960 election which I might play (ranked #54!).

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

lmao

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

mtg is better than all those games tho, it's true

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

risk is so bad, i hate risk

taboo is pretty fun though

max, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

also apples to apples is really fun! You have to be at the right level of drunk where people are vociferously arguing for their left-field connections, but not so drunk that nothing actually makes sense and people are just cracking themselves up throwing cards all over the place. Similar to Taboo in that sense I think.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

apples to apples is really fun the first time, and slightly less fun the second time, and then horrifingly unfun by the third time

max, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

fwiw, I think BGG probably has several large, non-overlapping contingents - - - so the CCG people probably push M:TG really high, even as the people that have evenings with Settlers and various geographically-themed German games (San Juan! Thebes! Calcutta!) don't play it at all.

Also, I would like to think that this giant board game derail is actually a sophisticated commentary on how the primaries are all JUST AN ARBITRARY GAME MAAAAN

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

game nerds seem a lot like beer nerds, there should be an awkward party where they come together and drink and play games and there are no females

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

Tons of females at board game nights though! Not parity, but last few times I went with my brother in Knoxville it was like 4/10 people, 5/11, etc.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

well they still won't come if they hear beer nerds will be there

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, board game nights are far more gender-balanced.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

"But the real question on the pundits' minds is, which candidate would female voters rather play Settlers with?"

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

mormons prob play a lot of board games

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

I love drunk Taboo so much. All other games: boooooo.

drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

And lo! we're back on topic, which is booing.

NEEDS MORE BOIIING (seandalai), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

However, MTG evenings at the large local game shop(owned & operated by a lesbian couple) are like so, so dude-heavy you can't even spot the girlfriends dragged in.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

Dutch Blitz, at christianbook.com

http://g.christianbook.com/g/product/9/9400x.gif

drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

this past weekend I got together with a bunch of college buddies and played Asshole, which was amazing until I woke up the next morning and had to sing at church

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

Actually Dutch blitz is really fun. Like cards but not PLAYING cards, y'see.

drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

Also on topic: more than average number of hardcore gamer dudes/MTG types have that borderline Aspergers edge where Ron Paul support is likely

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

shocking

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

(he calmly holds up his hand, palm outward in the universally recognized symbol for "Halt!" or possibly for "Go straight to hell!" if you live in Greece, according to one rather dicey internet site)

Halt! Take it to I Love Games, boys. We political junkies are still playing our game of Point & Laugh & Furrow Our Brows in this thread.

Aimless, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

ezra has been pushing the romney might actually be a good candidate line recently rmde http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/wonkbook-is-romney-stronger-than-he-looks/2012/03/07/gIQAvg9ewR_blog.html

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

its such a substance free line of reasoning, maybe hell do better than some people think, maybe hell do worse, i guess well see!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

if the economy gets worse hell do better if it gets better then he do worse, huh you dont say

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it's this natural inclination towards 'let's make this interesting', no it prob won't be interesting

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

if anything I think romney's 'overrated' as a candidate even in the spheres we are talking about. there is a lot of evidence that he is an unusually bad campaigner.

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

luckily we have romneys unusually bad campaigning to make it interesting

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

Which raises the question: What kind of nominee will he be?

At the moment, I'm going to put my money on "a stronger one than seems apparent right now,"

republican washington is in a state of despair, this all seems too contextual

goole, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

Stronger than he looks - he'd almost have to be?

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

Romney vs. Biden - that's what we should all start focussing on.

Aimless, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

"liberals are unhappy, the economy is in the toilet, obama is toast!!"

"you know, he does have certain strengths..."

"conservatives are unhappy, the economy is getting better, romney is toast!!"

"you know, he..."

goole, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

Romney vs. Biden - that's what we should all start focussing on.

― Aimless, Wednesday, March 7, 2012 12:55 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

naw bidens not the guy, romney neither

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

Come September and October, I predict that Biden and Romney will be elbowing one another for most-exuberantly-delivered-gaffe space on the ilx 2012 elections thread. Why wait til then?

Aimless, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

oh i thought u were talking abt the 2016 race

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

they r both great 4 gaffs its true

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

i played this at summer camp:

http://libcom.org/files/imagecache/article/images/library/Class%20Struggle%20board%20game.jpg

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

Us deluded Obama zealots prefer Class Warfare.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7pv7sO5Gng

goole, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

"...maybe the first time since we had Ronald Reagan." Completely ellides the Bush dynasty.

On the sidelines in a trash can grumping (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

Meanwhile in Alabama:

"I got no use for Obama, and it's not because of the color of his skin," said Leldon Thomas, a retired truck repairman chewing tobacco outside the Wal-Mart that locals blame for siphoning business from the long-established stores along Oneonta's ramshackle main street. "It's his socialist government and all the money he's throwing away."

Around here, Obama, who is Christian, is seen by many as Muslim, and not everyone believes he was born in Hawaii. "It's not that he's black," said Don Tielking, who has been cutting hair at the local barber shop for more than 40 years. "It's that he's not an American citizen."

For Tielking, who took a seat in his barber's chair to chat during a lull between customers, the problem with Romney is his Mormon faith, although he would gladly overlook it if he had to pick between him and Obama.

"Christ is the head of my church, and his was some Smith guy who claimed to be a latter-day prophet," said Tielking, referring to Joseph Smith Jr., the 19th century founder of the Latter-day Saints movement. "I'm not prejudiced against a Mormon. It's just some of their beliefs that I'm against."

Etc. etc.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

pretty bummed i missed the board games/ccg segment of the thread today

peebutt fartbottom (Lamp), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 23:52 (thirteen years ago)

Prussian Blue still going, huh?

fables of frogbs (lpz), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 23:54 (thirteen years ago)

"I got no use for Obama, and it's not because of the color of his skin," said Leldon Thomas, a retired truck repairman chewing tobacco outside the Wal-Mart that locals blame for siphoning business from the long-established stores along Oneonta's ramshackle main street. "It's his socialist government and all the money he's throwing away."

o_<

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:03 (thirteen years ago)

see that's one of those felicitous stylistic touches of which good reporting is made.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:04 (thirteen years ago)

It's not that Obama is black, it's that I don't like his policies. Also, he's black.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:06 (thirteen years ago)

I've got lots of friends who are black. I have no problem with them. And I'd have no problem with Obama, if he were one of the good ones.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:09 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, Alabama.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:10 (thirteen years ago)

alabamanatin forever

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:20 (thirteen years ago)

I want to make sure you understand it's not because he's black, because when you hear how nonsensical my reasons for not liking him are, you might conclude it is because he's black. Which would be wrong, like I'm telling you.

Aimless, Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:22 (thirteen years ago)

If I had a problem with black people, then I would not have considered voting for Herman Cain had all the white candidates dropped out.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:43 (thirteen years ago)

Romney: Poppy Bush II?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 March 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

IT'S NOT THAT HE'S MORMON

Raymond Cummings, Friday, 9 March 2012 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

As the editorial documents well, H.W./Romney parallels are all over the place. The big one that's missing for Romney is a Reagan in the background providing cover.

clemenza, Friday, 9 March 2012 12:22 (thirteen years ago)

Grits, ladies and gentlemen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G6Xzs93ucDQ

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

Meantime, Nelson laugh!

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/73807.html

Mitt Romney’s money machine is sending a message to the Washington establishment: Help.

GOP operatives thought it would cost Romney around $50 million to secure the nomination, but coming off a bruising few months and with a slog still ahead, some say it could cost much closer to $75 million.

Romney has put out a rallying cry to his supporters in Congress, asking them to kick in cash and get their best donors on board, too. He asked the 80 Republican lawmakers who have endorsed him to raise $10,000 each for a fundraiser at the end of the month in Washington. By law, they can personally contribute $2,000 from their reelection committees; the rest would need to come from their supporters.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

mitt mitt mitt whatre we gonna do w/u

lag∞n, Friday, 9 March 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

you think it wd be cheaper to lean on the santorum & gingrich money people and tell them to lay off? i don't get this world tho

goole, Friday, 9 March 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

"we don't all have to waste our money here to figure out what we already know, do we?"

goole, Friday, 9 March 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

Actually, I don't see why Romney simply didn't fire Santorum and Gingrich weeks ago. He's that good.

clemenza, Friday, 9 March 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G6Xzs93ucDQ

love this guy

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 9 March 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

Is that where he's talking about how much he likes to eat cereal? I saw that on CNN yesterday--what an endlessly entertaining guy.

clemenza, Friday, 9 March 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

great headline on CNN today: "Napping Newt Forgot Why He Was At Event"

the late great, Friday, 9 March 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

hope fred willard gets to play mitt in the biopic

brokering (pimping) (stevie), Friday, 9 March 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

wha happened?: mitt romney and the road to 2012

a little tiny crunk person (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 March 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

Somehow this endless process never stops bringing the lolz

Raymond Cummings, Friday, 9 March 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

great headline on CNN today: "Napping Newt Forgot Why He Was At Event"

― the late great, Friday, March 9, 2012 11:17 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm kinda thinking about donating to newt's campaign, hell just keep it rolling into 2013, 2014, this is too much fun to stop

a little tiny crunk person (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 March 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

Because you wanted to know:

The former gov’s campaign posted a list of “what Mitt listens to on the road” through Spotify on Facebook on Friday. Here’s the 19 song playlist:

“I Am a Man of Constant Sorrow” by The Soggy Bottom Boys

“Read my Mind” by The Killers

“December, 1963 [Oh, What a Night]" by Frankie Valli & the Four Seasons

“Ring of Fire”

“Somebody Told Me” by the Killers

“The MTA (The Boston Subway Song)” by The Kingston Trio

“Good Vibrations” by The Beach Boys

“Desperado” by Clint Black

“Crying” by Roy Orbison

“Only You” by Commodores

“Runaway” by Del Shannon

“It’s Your Love” by Tim McGraw

“As Good as I Once Was” by Toby Keith

“Born Free” by Kid Rock

“Over the Rainbow” by Willie Nelson

“Stardust”

“In Dreams” by Roy Orbison

“Somebody Like You” by Keith Urban

“All-American Girl” by Carrie Underwood

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

"I was watching Blue Velvet and I got thinking about Roy Orbison..."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

Also LOL Killers.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

i believe that Romney likes the Killers

Mordy, Friday, 9 March 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

ha I wonder if the killers thing is mormonism related? it has to be right

iatee, Friday, 9 March 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

for sure. what's the guy's name? brandon flowers?

Mordy, Friday, 9 March 2012 19:32 (thirteen years ago)

"No you idiot I said I liked Wayland Flowers and Madame!"

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

Killers are from Las Vegas, so maybe.

Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Friday, 9 March 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

no brandon flowers is def mormon, prob the most successful mormon musician since donny and marie

iatee, Friday, 9 March 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

mormon party mix = donny and marie, the killers, low

iatee, Friday, 9 March 2012 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

Oh yeah I guess you are right:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2011/10/17/brandon_flowers_of_the_killers_i_m_a_mormon.html

Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Friday, 9 March 2012 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe Mormons have their own version of Canadian content laws, and since Flowers is the only thing going right now, they all have to listen to him.

the Hilary Clinton of Ghostface Killahs (Phil D.), Friday, 9 March 2012 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

Well somebody told me
You had a boyfriend
Who looked like a girlfriend
That I had in February of last year\
I disapprove of this
greatly

goole, Friday, 9 March 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

if he's into that stardust willie nelson album i wish him well in life

goole, Friday, 9 March 2012 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

Huh, apparently Gladys Knight converted to LDS in the '90s.

Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Friday, 9 March 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/the-tina-fey-effect/2012/03/09/gIQAwmjO1R_blog.html?wprss=rss_ezra-klein

I am 100% willing to believe this is true,

iatee, Friday, 9 March 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

that is unreal

goole, Friday, 9 March 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

Looks more correlative than causal

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Friday, 9 March 2012 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

well I'd be interested to read that paper but I think people really underestimate how many low-information voters got their impression of sarah palin from lol clips they can on the internet

iatee, Friday, 9 March 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

they saw on the internet*

iatee, Friday, 9 March 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

I am totally cool w/ tina fey deserving a footnote in history books

iatee, Friday, 9 March 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

large number of people really do think she said "I can see Russia from my house!"

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 March 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

hitchens is a dumbfuck but I def think tina fey played a pretty decent role in solidifying palin's public image - more people watch snl+youtube than tv news. there were def people who thought that palin actually said "I can see russia from my house."

― iatee, Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:36 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in before science

iatee, Friday, 9 March 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

to be fair, this isn't much better:

As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border.

re her foreign policy experience

(he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 9 March 2012 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

Looks more correlative than causal

yeah, i mean, from individual to individual there's probably a lot of variation, but i'm leery of the the authors' willingness to attribute causation as a general explanation. it might simply be that a lot of those republicans who were more favorably inclined towards palin were less willing to watch fey's parody.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 9 March 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

or less likely to watch SNL in general (i.e., olds, cranks, angrys)

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 9 March 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

The grits clip posted above is not the cereal clip I heard yesterday. Brace yourself: this is an angry, militant Romney that you've never encountered before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvY4KKk964A

clemenza, Friday, 9 March 2012 23:36 (thirteen years ago)

I always think it's really lame and calculated when people release these like 15, 20-song "playlists" - like does he really actually listen to those same songs over and over or does he just hit shuffle on his whole collection? I mean it makes for great poll thread material but it really seems like this throwback to mixtape days, this candidate carefully crafting their perfect mix to sell themselves to every possible demographic.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:44 (thirteen years ago)

that's usually the case but this makes no sense as that

iatee, Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:46 (thirteen years ago)

it really seems like this throwback to mixtape days

a good thing, imo

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:46 (thirteen years ago)

I feel guilty about liking the same cereal as Mitt.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:47 (thirteen years ago)

some good songs on that mittlist! in voting, would be torn between "runaway", "in dreams", "stardust" (willie nelson version, i presume), and "charlie on the MTA".

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:49 (thirteen years ago)

I love MTA most out of the list but its presence here feels irritatingly on the nose - dude is a Massachusetts conservative so song for him presumably is an anthem about lowering taxes - "Fight the fare increase!" - which of course is sort of there in the song but the joy of the Kingston Trio rendition is just in the details and absurdity of Charlie's situation. But we talked about that in another thread.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:54 (thirteen years ago)

Well let me tell you of the story of a band named...The Kingston Trio

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:55 (thirteen years ago)

honestly the only "humanizing detail" released by the Romney camp that actually makes him seem human to me is his love of O Brother Where Art Thou and his habit of saying "We're in a tight spot" whenever there's trouble in Romneyland.

JoeStork, Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:10 (thirteen years ago)

Honey Nut Cheerios are very humanizing.

clemenza, Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:13 (thirteen years ago)

romney's playlist >>>> obama's playlist

It's sad he was a blogger (symsymsym), Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:39 (thirteen years ago)

NEEDS MORE BORING

calstars, Saturday, 10 March 2012 02:51 (thirteen years ago)

Humanizing touches be damned!

If a drunken robot could somehow get single-payer government-operated health care through Congress and sign it into law, bring the banks to heel and prosecute those who were culpable in fraud and malfeasance, limit the size of the armed forces to a reasonable peacetime force, while cutting the defense budget in half, and get a carbon-emissions-reduction policy in place that increased public mass transit options and put us on the path to renewable energy, then I'd vote for it, even if it had the world's ugliest paint job.

Aimless, Saturday, 10 March 2012 03:08 (thirteen years ago)

no brandon flowers is def mormon, prob the most successful mormon musician since donny and marie

have you guys never heard of David Archuleta

Abarham Lincoln posing (Abbbottt), Saturday, 10 March 2012 04:01 (thirteen years ago)

xp how would a robot get drunk idgi

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Saturday, 10 March 2012 04:09 (thirteen years ago)

have you guys never heard of David Archuleta

haha no i hadn't

mookieproof, Saturday, 10 March 2012 04:10 (thirteen years ago)

Oh my god that kid.

He was a more earnest version of Bieber.

I envy every person who has never heard of him.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Saturday, 10 March 2012 04:13 (thirteen years ago)

David Archuleta us going on a mission; you have a two-year break.

Abarham Lincoln posing (Abbbottt), Saturday, 10 March 2012 04:16 (thirteen years ago)

abbb did u go on a mission or did you make yr break prior to that?

mookieproof, Saturday, 10 March 2012 04:17 (thirteen years ago)

Davy On A Mission

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 10 March 2012 04:19 (thirteen years ago)

I left the church at 19; women don't go on missions until age 21, so no. I was kinda tempted to bcz I always wanted to be bilingual but there's no guarantee you'll get a calling outside the U.S. (tho there are some foreign language missions in the U.S.). Also more importantly I realized it would be dumb to spend 18 months (women's missions are shorter) actively preaching something I didn't totally believe in.

Abarham Lincoln posing (Abbbottt), Saturday, 10 March 2012 04:19 (thirteen years ago)

how would a robot get drunk

It would have to be programmed for it, obv

Aimless, Saturday, 10 March 2012 04:37 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.ineedcoffee.com/08/mormons-coffee/images/MittRomney.jpg

"I know now why you drink...but it is something I can never do."

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 10 March 2012 04:38 (thirteen years ago)

Not the only inverted coffee cup on that table

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Saturday, 10 March 2012 05:12 (thirteen years ago)

(for the record if it's not clear - image including caption is GIS search result)

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 10 March 2012 05:13 (thirteen years ago)

(ie don't think i'm the lameo that did that)

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 10 March 2012 05:13 (thirteen years ago)

Mormons don't drink coffee you sillies

Abarham Lincoln posing (Abbbottt), Saturday, 10 March 2012 05:13 (thirteen years ago)

i can't vote for someone who refuses to do the dew

mookieproof, Saturday, 10 March 2012 05:15 (thirteen years ago)

The former gov’s campaign posted a list of “what Mitt listens to on the road” through Spotify on Facebook on Friday. Here’s the 19 song playlist:

“I Am a Man of Constant Sorrow” by The Soggy Bottom Boys

in this context this reads like "I am a human being capable of frequent emotion"

john-claude van donne (schlump), Saturday, 10 March 2012 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

The first of these struck me as, I don't know, a little over-earnest; when I read the second one, I figured the whole thing was a rather inspired put-on. They're both real.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/293106/romney-wins-guam-caucuses-brian-bolduc
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/293111/romney-wins-northern-mariana-islands-brian-bolduc

Why do I get the feeling that Romney parachuted into Guam mid-week and dropped 20 million on attack ads? ("Rick Santorum is wrong for Guam...")

clemenza, Saturday, 10 March 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

I love this, from the comments section:

And the Romney machine marches on!

"We're going to Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands and the Virgin Islands and Samoa and Puerto Rico, then we're going to Washington, D.C., to take back the White House! YEAAAAAAAAAHHH!"

clemenza, Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

few days old, good piece tho http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2012/03/super-tuesday-four-republican-candidates.html

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

wow nro just wholesale ripped off huffposts design when did that happen

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

talk abt something not to be emulated

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

Santorum wins in Kansas

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-10/rick-santorum-wins-kansas-caucus-as-romney-wins-weekend-s-other-contests.html

brownie, Saturday, 10 March 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

Wonder if Romney is going to hurt himself with his post-nomination pivot. I mean physically. Like from the whiplash.

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Saturday, 10 March 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

SANTORUMOMENTUM

brownie, Saturday, 10 March 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

ok, can someone who tell me who this woman is and why she keeps doing that

http://i42.tinypic.com/2jevepj.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/ja821x.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/2dc5nx3.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/24z9o5d.jpg

1986 Olive Garden (Z S), Sunday, 11 March 2012 05:05 (thirteen years ago)

his wife, right?

Mordy, Sunday, 11 March 2012 05:05 (thirteen years ago)

no, that's his daughter. right? wife is the one on the right in the last photo.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Sunday, 11 March 2012 05:06 (thirteen years ago)

http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/files//2012/01/08santorum.jpg

lag∞n, Sunday, 11 March 2012 05:08 (thirteen years ago)

never forget

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 11 March 2012 05:16 (thirteen years ago)

Kansas gets it right. The big question now is, what's the matter with Guam?

clemenza, Sunday, 11 March 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

snakes iirc

lag∞n, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_uY-lvtRlf_I/Sk0dZP4HqzI/AAAAAAAAAkQ/guNtyW8-O9s/s400/indiana_jones_snakes.jpg

l-r: santorum, guam

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

treasured ilx meme grows up in her meme-face, amazing.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

I think the daughter in question is the one in the background of the famous ilx meme-pic., where she is indeed still making the same face as she does today, but a tad bit happier now than then.

Aimless, Sunday, 11 March 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

yep

lag∞n, Sunday, 11 March 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

Heartfelt; moving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hfvRaOnbQ0

clemenza, Monday, 12 March 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

he seems really unwell.

brokering (pimping) (stevie), Monday, 12 March 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

like, he might die soon.

brokering (pimping) (stevie), Monday, 12 March 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

He looks like he is dying.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 12 March 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

"A vote for Romney is a vote for my healthcare...wait."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 March 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

that's a bold pattern on his shirt

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 12 March 2012 18:16 (thirteen years ago)

ha that was my first and only thought

goole, Monday, 12 March 2012 18:17 (thirteen years ago)

it makes an impression

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 12 March 2012 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

is he wearing a cheesecloth

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 March 2012 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

The Republicans’ war on TelePrompters is an example of why many in the party are wary about the GOP nomination fight extending all the way through June. Attacking TelePrompters might be a winning strategy (or at least part of one) in a Republican primary race but’s it hard to imagine any swing voters this November being persuaded by that line of attack.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/republicans-war-on-the-teleprompter--and-its-limits/2012/03/12/gIQAjuMV7R_blog.html?hpid=z2

curmudgeon, Monday, 12 March 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

the whole teleprompter meme is so hilarious and lame

lag∞n, Monday, 12 March 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

but I thought the GOP loved Reagan!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 March 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

Does that mean they want cue cards instead? Or a speech to be memorised? I just don't get it. If politics is to progress in helping the people, we need more Rick Perry moments but during important speeches, god dammit!?

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

I am declaring war on... oh shit... one of those countries. I forgot which one. If only we invented some sort of way for me to read the speech instead of just trying to remember. The country we are going to invade is... well it starts with an I. Israel? Fuck it, that sounds foreign enough. I am declaring war on Israel.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

I've posted this before, but: could've used a teleprompter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WEdrdoz8Z4

(Still love when he momentarily turns into the Penguin at the 19-second mark.)

clemenza, Monday, 12 March 2012 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

My impression of the teleprompter rumpus is that it's a specific dig at Obama ("He ain't so smart - he just reads his speeches off a teleprompter.")

o. nate, Monday, 12 March 2012 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

Because, for Republican base voters, it epitomizes everything they dislike about President Obama. It reveals that “he’s all show,” explained Curt Anderson, a Republican media consultant who did work for Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s presidential bid but is now unaffiliated in the race. “All hat, no cattle.”

Added Rob Stutzman, a California-based Republican consultant: “Obama took the TelePrompter to a new level of absurdity when he reached the White House. It seemed he couldn’t even greet a little league team without the Prompter in place.”

In short: The use of a Prompter gets at authenticity, which should be the watch word for all politicians in the coming election. These days voters tend to believe that all politicians are telling them what they want to hear. For Republicans, Obama’s use of the TelePrompter is the height of inauthenticity — reading words written for him by someone else from an electronic device.

curmudgeon, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

looooooool

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

Speaking of Perry, this is great--less for the fantasy that naming someone in advance will help Gingrich, more for the someone he settles on:

http://www.salon.com/2012/03/12/ah_the_old_v_p_trick/

("Preliminary 'what-if' conversation" deserves its own acronym. "Romney and Santorum engage in secret PWICs over potential non-existence of Easter Bunny.")

clemenza, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

Everything about the GOP makes me think of George Clooney in Out of Sight: "This is the dumbest fuckin' shakedown in the history of dumb shakedowns."

the Hilary Clinton of Ghostface Killahs (Phil D.), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

How could we all be so callous? Happy 65th, Mitt! (At home, with the trees.)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/shakespeares_sister/shakes4/1-23-12-Mitt-Romney_full_600.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

pretty surprised that Silver has Romney ahead of Santorum in MS and AL. Gingrich, too, but that's a little less surprising.

it's smdh time in America (will), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

those aren't his trees!!

j., Monday, 12 March 2012 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

Although Mitt reserves a special place in his heart for the trees of Michigan, he has promised to restore all of America's trees to the greatness they once enjoyed before President Obama declared his War on Trees four years ago.

clemenza, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_oyZ-qVSfGLc/SWvUTrAjSII/AAAAAAAABTg/uF6mKOjyvRs/S220/Flo.jpg

Reportedly making robocalls for Romney in the south.

clemenza, Monday, 12 March 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

"Kiss my Mitt!"

nickn, Monday, 12 March 2012 23:41 (thirteen years ago)

anyone making those teleprompter jokes should be forced to watch obama answering questions at the republican congressional conference

It's sad he was a blogger (symsymsym), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 00:29 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, it's such a bad fit between meme and reality - would put Obama way up there in terms of presidents who can say something coherent without a teleprompter. But - gotcha - the more intelligent and on-point he is without his precious prompters, the more he's a Harvard egghead out of touch with jus' plain folks!

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 00:36 (thirteen years ago)

it's as if they have no memory of that republican who was in power for eight years recently

It's sad he was a blogger (symsymsym), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 02:19 (thirteen years ago)

I was gonna say

John Nestle Harding (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 02:24 (thirteen years ago)

Is there any coverage of this anywhere that doesn't have the tone of "Jesus effing Christ this is never going to end"? Everyone just seems exhausted.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 08:16 (thirteen years ago)

Sullivan still tries to transform every primary day into Romney's moment of truth. Elsewhere, pretty much.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

From the "First as Tragedy, Then as Farce" Dep't.:

Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, was fielding a friendly question about star quarterback Peyton Manning, who was cut from the Indianapolis Colts last week. He said he hoped Manning would not picked up by his hometown team, the New England Patriots.

And that's when he stepped in it.

"I got a lot of good friends – the owner of the Miami Dolphins and the New York Jets, both owners are friends of mine," he said on a syndicated radio program hosted by Paul Finebaum.

butvi wouls (Phil D.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

xpost -- It's been great fun watching the usual suspects at RedState etc. move from being "THIS WILL BE THE ULTIMATE BATTLE TO DEFEAT THE EVIL SOCIALIST" to a savage torpor whimpering and muttering.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

But now with gas prices rising, and Obama's poll numbers momentarily down, the right-wingers seem renewed in spirit

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

If Romney had a sense of humor at all I would think he's just messing with us now...

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

But now with gas prices rising, and Obama's poll numbers momentarily down, the right-wingers seem renewed in spirit

Philip Klein over at the Washington Examiner (ergo, another right wing type) took that on board and basically said "My fellow political travellers don't know shit about economics and commodities; I would ask them to stop acting like fools."

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

x-post re Romney and owner friends-- if, but does not appear that way. Amazing.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

The passion:

I view Rick Santorum as the most conservative candidate in the Republican presidential primary. I have chosen not to publicly endorse a candidate. I believe a vote is a personal decision that should be based on a voter’s values and principles, not on someone else’s opinion. After being asked who I would vote for, I responded that I had personally chosen to vote for Rick Santorum. The Republican primary features a strong pool of candidates, and I will fully support the Republican nominee chosen by the people.

The voter in question happens to be the governor of Alabama.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

I believe a vote is a personal decision that should be based on a voter’s values and principles, not on someone else’s opinion

how does this even make sense

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

meanwhile The Corner seems enervated lately

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

well my votes are all based on the opinion of the Gov of Alabama so...

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

Question

By Kathryn Jean Lopez
March 13, 2012 11:54 A.M.

Why did Michael Steele go on Bill Maher’s show Friday night, when Maher so viciously attacks Republican women?

And why, when he was there, during the kind of high-minded discussion of misogyny you might expect there, did Steele not bother to defend the Virginia ultrasound bill against Maher’s mischaracterization?

But I return to the main question. Why, former chairman of the RNC, would you go on that show?

Would Republican men please stop credentialing that show?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

Here's a beaut:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/293254/romney-santorum-vp-he-doesnt-have-fiscal-conservative-chops-katrina-trinko

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

What have we done, to deserve candidates like these

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

What've we, what've we, what've we done to deserve candidates like this?

(Even though I'm not part of the we.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

Here's a beaut:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/293254/romney-santorum-vp-he-doesnt-have-fiscal-conservative-chops-katrina-trinko

wait is there such a thing as a "fiscal conservative to the left"?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

There is now!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

We got this
We got this
My fiscal conservative is to my right

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

he did it again mitt mitt mitt http://gawker.com/5892855/today-in-mitt-romney-trying-to-relate-to-voters-ive-got-a-lot-of-good-friends-who-own-nfl-teams

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

just over here flexing my fiscal conservative chops

Sexess - Sexual Success Or; Successful Sex (crüt), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

xp 2012 republican presidential nominee IV: NEEDS MORE BOOING

butvi wouls (Phil D.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

x-post -
Attacking Bill Maher's attitude towards women seems to quite the right-wing meme these days. I have now seen a couple of folks say in response to criticisms of Rush, etc., but what about Bill Maher. None of the Republican candidates have used it yet though.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:17 (thirteen years ago)

oops cp

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

Bill Maher defended Rush's recent statements iirc

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

they can both go die in a fire imho

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

"what about the roots?"

mookieproof, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

maher didnt defend rushes statements so much as be all he apologized lets move on ok but w/e yes he is horrible

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:21 (thirteen years ago)

Found this piece interesting:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/03/11/david-frum-mike-huckabee-brings-on-rush-limbaugh-s-decline.html?obref=obinsite

On one of the old Republican threads I said I didn't mind Huckabee, but didn't get much agreement.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

Celebrity apologies sound nothing like honest apologies, so defending a celebrity apology as perfectly adequate just underlines what a sleazeball you must be.

Aimless, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

Maher's comments are about as bad as loathsome as you would expect

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

interesting article clemenza - the stuff about why some of Limbaugh's advertisers were willing to bolt this time around was illuminating

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

lol, given a choice between Limbaugh and Huckabee, yes I am going to pick Huckabee 100% of the time

this doesn't actually mean I like Huckabee

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

Huck filled in after Paul Harvey officially died and I was none too impressed.

Seems like Republican Radio will have its choice between Gomer and Gozer. I know who I'd pick if I was an even angrier white male.

pplains, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

lol, given a choice between Limbaugh and Huckabee, yes I am going to pick Huckabee 100% of the time

Limbaugh can't play a bass solo to save his life

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

If Huck opens his new radio show with a live performance of him jamming on "My City Was Gone", then I'll take back every mean thing I've ever said about that hound dog-looking motherfucker.

pplains, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:47 (thirteen years ago)

huckabee has got the carson daly my-diet-has-made-me-look-like-death thing going on.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

Repeating myself again, but the thing Huckabee did that I liked was defend Obama in 2008 during the Wright pile-on--he had (from his perspective) every reason not to, and I don't think it was an insignificant gesture. I don't want to overstate his case, though. I can't remember specifics, but there was some incident earlier this year, or maybe last year, where he took the predictably easy way out.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

Meantime:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/us/politics/obama-campaign-fears-uphill-climb-raising-super-pac-money.html

My theory on this is that people really fucking hate ads in particular, so I'm not sure how this is going to help anyway.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

I guess I should go vote today...apparently there's some push to get Obama more votes in the Dem primary than the winner gets in the Republican primuhzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

Priorities USA Action, a super PAC supporting the president’s re-election, will report $2 million in February donations, group officials said, including $1 million from the television host Bill Maher.

rmde

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

is MS an open primary? haven't voted there since 1996

it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

also Romney is apparently out-polling Santorum there? cRaZy/

it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

Meaning, can I vote in the Republican primary if I want? I believe so.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

VOTE SANTO PLZ U HAVE TO

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

^^otm

it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

Santo's advertising would be much better like this:

http://www.wrongsideoftheart.com/wp-content/gallery/posters-s/santo_vs_vampire_women_poster_01.jpg

On the sidelines in a trash can grumping (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

Couldn't bring myself to walk the two blocks to my polling place to cast a ballot for any of these yahoos.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

^^^hates america

mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

love and hate would both be way too strong -- how about "is not really enthused by"

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:53 (thirteen years ago)

So what's going on? Romney is getting pasted or...?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:12 (thirteen years ago)

3rd place in both states, but the margins aren't huge.

Santorum projected to win Alabama; leads in MS

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:17 (thirteen years ago)

Romney might crack 30% in MS, which is kind of win?

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:19 (thirteen years ago)

Romney making statements about how Santorum is at the "desperate end" of his campaign, and Trump is calling for S to get out of the race (ha). Don't think these guys realize that that kind of stuff is EXACTLY what will get Santorum's base fired up to go out and vote for him - - - the insiders and the MEDIA are telling you your vote doesn't count and you should just stay home and let Mitt Romney win already! etc.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:23 (thirteen years ago)

Anyone care to read this?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:24 (thirteen years ago)

Santo the Amazing projected to win Mississippi.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:54 (thirteen years ago)

I honestly don't know what would make dead white Mississippians like my father and father-in-law spin in their graves faster -- the country electing a black man President in 2008, or Mississippi Republicans voting for a Catholic nominee this year.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:56 (thirteen years ago)

Rick Santorum Relieved No One Has Asked Him About Interracial Marriage Yet

mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:57 (thirteen years ago)

lol. interracial marriage still a huge problem in the South, not even among out-and-out racists. I have good friends who are irked by the notion because they're all raised to believe the Bible says it shouldn't be done.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 03:00 (thirteen years ago)

lol @ Romney barnstorming the Delta. ANYTHING to get that black feller out of there. anything.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/13/live-coverage-alabama-and-mississippi-primaries/#more-28675

it's smdh time in America (will), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 03:12 (thirteen years ago)

Newt killin it in AL's black belt though

it's smdh time in America (will), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 03:15 (thirteen years ago)

The growth of mixed race marriages in the South

dandydonweiner, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 03:20 (thirteen years ago)

can't believe someone would tarnish the purity of their bloodline like that

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 03:27 (thirteen years ago)

Newt killin it in AL's black belt though

... among the Republicans living there

Aimless, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 03:39 (thirteen years ago)

this election is shaping up to be the most frightening of evah.

dandydonweiner, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 03:48 (thirteen years ago)

Santo-rum, Santo-rum, Santo-rum...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bSk6yN_RU3Q/TKZeZ-0zEHI/AAAAAAAAI-I/U3v0ixzTVAw/s400/ShiningDanny2.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 03:51 (thirteen years ago)

most def. but i would've guessed that the same politics at play in the Delta (i.e. getting Obama OUT supersedes a vote for Jesus) would have translated to AL's bb.

though i guess if you're super-duper racist, Newt's definitely spit better game than the other two

xxposts

it's smdh time in America (will), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 03:53 (thirteen years ago)

this picture:

http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20120314&t=2&i=582211440&w=&fh=&fw=&ll=700&pl=300&r=CBRE82D08RD00

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 04:20 (thirteen years ago)

SANTO!!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 04:34 (thirteen years ago)

so has anyone pointed out th nick cage/santorum resemblance, particularly in how they speak? Drives me nuts whenever I catch a santorum speech, but I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere.

Clay, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 04:46 (thirteen years ago)

clemenza - someone released under Huck's "follow Jesus, and you get early parole for horrible shit" program was indirectly blamed for Maurice Clemens(?) for murdering several cops in Lakewood WA in 2010 I think. Huck's response was to just dismiss it. Is that what you're referring to?

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 05:42 (thirteen years ago)

I'll say this much: President Sarah Palin would literally send me looking for alternatives to citizenship. But something about a President Santorum, while equally frightening, is kind of intriguing. The country would be cast into this totally crazy culture war carnival atmosphere, 24/7. It'd be exhausting, and likely the end of us all, but it'd be a fun ride.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:05 (thirteen years ago)

don't even joke dude

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

Whatever, GWB was equally craven and stupid as either of those people and he was President for 8 years. A lot of people said they'd leave the country; I actually did

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:25 (thirteen years ago)

Mackro -- it was this:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/01/huckabee-questions-obama-birth-certificate-claims-he-was-raised-in-kenya/

After acquitting himself so well on Wright in 2008, that was disappointing/appalling.

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

Large swaths of GOP voters in Alabama and Miss want a ban on interracial marriages.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:42 (thirteen years ago)

Huh just assumed that would also be a Onion article.

It is shit like that which actually gives me the creeps when it comes to America.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

xpost But Santorum's priorities are just so nuttily out of sync with the modern world. GWB destroyed the economy, went to war, etc. Santorum would, like, re-outlaw sodomy for everyone. Within weeks the Capitol would get its first ever protest blow-job-in.

Tracer, it's hard to leave the country. How did you pull that off? Where did you go? Did you move, or change citizenship?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

The columnist looks like a regular Applebee's patron.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

Man, fuck large swaths of Mississippi and Alabama.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

I found a foreign patsy willing to marry me. I didn't even have to pay her!!

Still a US citizen though so I can vote against these fuckers from afar

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

Whatever, GWB was equally craven and stupid as either of those people and he was President for 8 years. A lot of people said they'd leave the country; I actually did

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:25 AM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You also had a woman waiting for you in other lands, iirc. (kudos)

Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

xp lol

Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

Ah, see, so you're still paying US taxes. etc. Us folks with wives and anchor babies here, we have to be judicious about threats to leave the country. Which is why I leave it to Palin as my low-bar.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

If Palin ever becomes president, I'm hereby threatening to move to your country--that's something I'd just have to experience up close.

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

oh you will when she invades

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

She's already famously declared that she can see Vancouver from her window--she's had her eye on us all along.

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

Large swaths of GOP voters in Alabama and Miss want a ban on interracial marriages.

<iateebait>just your friendly reminder that large swaths of the south totally suck*

*aerosmith addendum: large swaths of lots of places totally suck, not everyone in the south sucks, blah blah blah

Mordy, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/sarah-palin/9094048/Sarah-Palin-believed-Queen-was-in-charge-of-British-forces-in-Iraq.html

I somehow missed this Palin item

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/03/mitt-romney-delegates-hawaii-samoa.html

His wins in the deep South were nice and all, but last night didn't actually bring Rick Santorum any closer to the GOP presidential nomination that ostensibly remains his goal. That's because long after the East Coast Lamestream Media had gone to sleep, because they are lame, Mitt Romney easily won the caucuses in Hawaii and American Samoa (which consisted of about 70 Republicans meeting at a local bar). Combined with the proportionally-allocated delegates he took from losses in Mississippi and Alabama, Romney ended the night, according to an AP count, with at least 41 delegates to Santorum's 35, Newt Gingrich's 24, and Ron Paul's ... one.

goole, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hFS8CII05CE2QkGRjjypVY8y71nw?docId=f7422364fe2a47f0b661273d51537843

PAGO PAGO, American Samoa (AP) — What do you get when 50 or so Republicans gather in a restaurant-bar? In American Samoa, you get a presidential caucus.

The U.S. territory, located about 2,300 miles (3,700 kilometers) south of Hawaii, gets its chance Tuesday to participate in the presidential selection process.

It's a decidedly local affair. Republicans will meet at Toa Bar & Grill.

They will choose delegates to the Republican National Convention in August and vote on a presidential candidate. The six delegates picked at the caucus will join three American Samoa "superdelegates" at the convention.

Only registered Republicans can vote in the caucus, and that's why so few attend. It's rare in American Samoa for anyone to officially register as a Republican or Democrat because local elected officials don't run on party lines.

In 2008, the nine delegates backed Arizona Sen. John McCain, who went on to win the Republican nomination.

Amata Radewagen, a Republican National Committeewoman and superdelegate, said Mitt Romney has "quite a bit of support" among local Republicans.

Last weekend, Romney captured all 18 delegates at caucuses in two other U.S. possessions in the Pacific — Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands.

Like American Samoa, residents of those islands are U.S. citizens but are not allowed to vote in the presidential election in November.

goole, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

Y'all were worried about polls. Here's one:

Mitt Romney has retaken a significant lead nationally in the race for the Republican presidential nomination, even as he has fallen further behind Barack Obama in a general election matchup. Moreover, Obama’s own job approval rating has reached 50% for the first time since last May, shortly after the killing of Osama bin Laden.

The latest national survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, conducted March 7-11 among 1,503 adults, including 1,188 registered voters and 538 Republican and Republican-leaning voters, finds that Romney leads Rick Santorum, 33% to 24%, in the GOP nomination contest. A month ago, the two men were in a virtual tie (28% Romney, 30% Santorum).

But both GOP frontrunners are running well behind Barack Obama in general election matchups. Among all voters, Obama leads Romney by 12 points (54% to 42%) and Santorum by 18 points (57% to 39%). Obama’s advantage among women voters, while largely unchanged from a month ago, remains substantial – 20 points over Romney and 26 points over Santorum.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

Clearly Obama needs to kill Osama Bin Laden again, maybe around August.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

would be funny if Obama just killed Mitt/Santorum with a dronestrike

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

Mitt Romney not entirely clear on what presidents can and can't do.

During the interview with KSDK, he presented his plan for fixing everything: drill for more oil, get rid of the Affordable Care Act, and, most important of all: "Planned Parenthood? We're gonna get rid of that." He knows a doctor who will help, a few towns over. No one will have to know. It's safe.

With that proclamation, Romney's made a complete 180 degree turn from where he said he stood on Planned Parenthood a decade ago. As a candidate for Massachusetts governor, he filled out a Planned Parenthood-sponsored candidate survey attesting that he believed in using Medicaid funds to help poor women get abortions and increased availability of emergency contraception, and that he wasn't against a state law mandating that employer-sponsored health care plans cover the cost of contraception.

butvi wouls (Phil D.), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

50% approval not bad at all for an economy in the shitbin

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

I was just coming to this thread to to post that, fuck this guy with a rusty pitchfork. xp

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

"Look, nobody else knows what a bill of attainder is, why should I?"

butvi wouls (Phil D.), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

The combo of flip-flopping, pandering to religious extremists, and medical health misogyny should be all over the media this fall.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

I do think it odd that apparently hardcore conservatives see through Mitt's pandering, but apparently buy into Newt's just as audacious red meat tossing. I'd blame it on the Mormon thing, but Newt's religious allegiance ain't exactly rock solid itself, which in some ways is even more suspicious.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

Newt eats grits.

Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

*aerosmith addendum: large swaths of lots of places totally suck, not everyone in the south sucks, blah blah blah

Picking the stupidest state in the union to represent THE SOUTH not entirely fair. How about if Miss. represented America?

Just speaking from personal experience, over the years i've seen the increase in interracial marriages whenever I visit Georgian exurbs.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

How about if we picked the three or four or five stupidest states in the Union? Would that be a broad enough sample?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/The-United-States-of-Shame.png

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

daaaaaamn Oklahoma

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

Again, this drilling at home for more oil thing, it's just so dumb. Have any of these candidates address the fact that the oil would be on a world market, not simply pumped from the gulf straight into a big barrel that says "USA ONLY" on it?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

If Michigan is the worst at unemployment, does that mean they're actually good at unemployment? Is Ohio worst at being the nerdiest state, or is it the nerdiest state? Does Alaska have a lot of suicides, or not a lot of suicides? Too many unanswered questions with this map.

butvi wouls (Phil D.), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

how is that odd? first, plenty of 'hardcore conservatives' of different kinds are not feeling gingrich either; rick santorum did win two contests last night. second, the base of a party tends to sort itself along a spectrum *given the range of candidates on offer*. mitt romney's slice of support was well to the right of john mccain's in 08, remember. romney is picking up the "left" of the GOP in the present moment.

or, really, what about 'hardcore liberals' and the razor-thin differences between obama and clinton in 08? who can't see through what, really?

goole, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

Well, Clinton was a master triangulator. Obama hasn't worked too hard on that front, not as much as Clinton. But Newt has clearly crafted himself into something totally different for this campaign. A self-professed intellectual running as an intellectual, a government lifer running as an insurgent, a compulsive adulterer running as a family values candidate, etc.

xpost Not only have they not addressed that re: oil drilling, they also have not addressed the fact that a) domestic oil production has gone up under Obama b) domestic oil production won't change a thing in a sort run and c) no matter where we drill, oil remains finite.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

i think those numbers are a few weeks old, no?

xpost referring to obama vs. whoever poll

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

Like, as Alfred (I think?) has pointed out, Obama in practice hasn't exactly been too different than what was actually promised. Not a lot of rope a dope, though it feels that way, given how much people projected onto him.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

I don't even know where I'm xposting to. It's a hail mary xpost.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

Those "worst" rankings were from ... last year?

http://pleated-jeans.com/2011/01/24/the-united-states-of-shame-chart/

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

Picking the stupidest state in the union to represent THE SOUTH not entirely fair. How about if Miss. represented America?

Kansas gave Santorum 51%, MS gave him 33. Just sayin.

On the sidelines in a trash can grumping (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

I boggled at Maine's average SAT score until I remembered that they are now out of 2400, not 1600

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

color me libertarian here but what exactly does the idaho one mean

goole, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

apparently hardcore conservatives see through Mitt's pandering, but apparently buy into Newt's just as audacious red meat tossing.

newt is a much more convincing avatar of hatred for the other

mitt doing some of this stuff is like listening to my mom swear

mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

My friend was just visiting Kansas, and she left very impressed. She returned to her husband and basically said, you know, I could imagine living there. So he reminded her that they teach creationism, and she was all, oh yeah, fuck that state.

12. Idaho – lowest level of Congressional clout

http://www.newwest.net/topic/article/roll_call_rocky_mountain_states_still_at_bottom_of_congressional_clout_list/C559/L559/

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

teaching evolution has been declared unconstitutional

public schools in kansas-like places just don't teach anything, that's their workaround

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

ha i mean teaching creation

in public schools obv

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

kansas-like places

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

KANSAS SHE SAID IS THE NAME OF THE STAAAR

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTQYwXUZnW9MdoiDvzcDUk2CyL4RXrg8vWMwF-eU6D8cmP-94JrNQ

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

re: that purported Obama poll drop

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

CBS/NYT — March 7-11 — 41%

Bloomberg — March 8-11 — 48%

Ipsos/Reuters — March 8-11 — 50%

ABC/WaPo — March 7-10 — 46%

Pew — March 7-11 — 50%

Gallup — March 10-12 — 47%

Rasmussen — March 11-13 — 47%

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

Why is Delaware worst at abortion and what does it have to do with DC?

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

Hadn't considered this, but it makes sense:

http://www.tnr.com/blog/the-stump/101695/romneys-other-southern-problem-hooah

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

Fred Thompson's greatest hit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnpnQvAc_ZE

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

"...100 times--more than a 100 times."

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

man this fucking guy

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

what a useless fucking person. how does one make a mitt romney?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

in Puerto Rico: "Like any other state, there has to be compliance with this and any other federal law," Santorum said. "And that is that English has to be the principal language."

boxall, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HLZnNmHKy24/Ta9UWms_hXI/AAAAAAAAApw/UMnoChc4Czs/s1600/jesus+weeps.jpg

butvi wouls (Phil D.), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

(xxpost) We've asked as much 300 times--more than 300 times.

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

Roffles:

At the Indian River County Republican Party’s Lincoln Day Dinner in Vero Beach, Fla., Monday night, (Ann Coulter) said the GOP has a problem with “con men and charlatans.” Her point, though, was this: The Republican Party — and particularly the conservative movement — has created incentives for politicians to enter the fray not necessarily to win an office, but to eventually score a gig with Fox News or write a book. We need to be wary, then, of people who might possibly be in it solely for themselves.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

coulter prefers the tried and true method of simply saying outrageous things in order to score a gig with fox news or sell a book.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

Ann feeling like Doyle Brunson after he wrote Super System. A thousand little Republican gunslingers stealing her plum gigs.

Mordy, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

Why would you even bother going to Puerto Rico if that's the kind of lunacy you're going to spout off on as soon as your tires hit the tarmac.

pplains, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

Flys into Alaska:

"You all need to learn to start sharing those oil revenue checks with the rest of us, iffin' you know what's good for you."

pplains, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

Why would you even bother going to Puerto Rico if that's the kind of lunacy you're going to spout off on as soon as your tires hit the tarmac.

To pick up chicks and drink Coronas?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

it's spelled if'n

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

xpost -- "Would you like to see a little Santorum?"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

you all aren't even half as funny as Rick Santo is.

pplains, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

Rico Santo

pplains, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

Let's see him do the dance.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

Señor Espumoso

pplains, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

He's into superstition
holy water and Jesus Christ

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

the pro-statehood position is by no means a popular one in PR. commonwealth status has strong majority support. i know next to nothing about the place, i just looked at wikipedia for about 5 mins. maybe it's more of a deal among PR republicans?

or, maybe, this was a performance whose audience is white people on the mainland.

goole, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

Why would you even bother going to Puerto Rico if that's the kind of lunacy you're going to spout off on as soon as your tires hit the tarmac.

― pplains, Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:39 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's brilliant tactics! He knows he's not winning Puerto Rico anyway, Catholic or no Catholic, and so he uses the opportunity to basically throw the entire territory under the bus to demonstrate to his red-meat fans back in the states that he's a straight-shootin' guy who tells it like it is and won't "say anything to get elected." Get ready for a sweep of editorials and talk-radio comments on how this proves he's the anti-Romney.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

xpost

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

the pro-statehood position is by no means a popular one in PR

And how. Why would you be?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

I know almost as many Puerto Ricans as Cubans -- of all ages -- and no one wants to mess with the good thing they've got

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it's kinda like being the darryl jones of of the united states if the united states was the rolling stones and puerto rico was a professional bassist

konybrony (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

but Darryl Jones I'm sure wants to be a Stone, which would require him losing the ludicrous hair.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

ah it's probably cool not to have to go to board meetings and shit with mick and not have to show up for photo shoots

BTW GUYS COULD YOU ALL SLAP ME IN THE FACE AND TELL ME NOT TO ARGUE WITH MY FRIEND THAT LIKES RON PAUL ON TWITTER ALL DAY?

konybrony (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

"friend"

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

Just fart in his face.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

i can't fart over twitter! he is my friend, too, he is a sweetie but he is one of those ppl that fell under the spell and i really don't think he even understands what paul is actually saying and god it's so frustrating

he also works....for.....wait for it.....a city government afterschool/summer program for inner city children

konybrony (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

that's just sad

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

ok now he just told me to read chomsky!!!!! this ron paul shit is insane yo

konybrony (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

Just use the #fart hashtag when tweeting and I think it will work.

butvi wouls (Phil D.), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

thx phil :)

konybrony (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/7884b86e7465e507090f6a7067001717.jpg

pplains, Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

"what's better than roses on a piano?"

goole, Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

ICE COLD

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

beautiful newt photo

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

What's the significance of $250 gas?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

Newt says that, if elected, he could bring gas prices down to $2.50.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

Newt ‘$2.50’ Gingrich Mocks Obama
Presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich touted his new campaign slogan, “Newt=$2.50,” in front of a ballroom full of supporters in Tennessee Monday evening. The $2.50, of course, refers to the price of gas per gallon Gingrich promises to achieve if elected president. In addition to plugging his own plan, Newt derided President Obama’s initiative to use algae as a source for clean energy. “I think this is a Saturday Night Live skit,” quipped the man who boasts building moon colonies as a serious campaign proposal. “Maybe we should, as an experiment, get some algae and go to a gas station, and you know, sort of the ‘Barack Solution.’ ‘Would you like some algae instead of gasoline?’” he joked. “This is the kind of stuff that’s Cloud Cuckoo Land.”

pplains, Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

“I think this is a Saturday Night Live skit,” quipped the man who boasts building moon colonies as a serious campaign proposal.

layer upon layer

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

When I read or hear Newt, I think 'fatuous'.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

I think "fathead."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

I think we all know where this is going

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

(unzips pants)

butvi wouls (Phil D.), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

And Newt is the 'smart' republican right?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

keep reading this thread title as NEEDS MORE BORING which also makes sense

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

algae energy plan is actually kind of awesome and based on solid science tbrr

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

Who the fuck cares? The President can't control gas prices! And the people who seem to think he can are the ones most often yelling about govument stayin' outta the Holy Blessed Free Market.

I suppose it really says how desperate he GOP is, when this 5th-tier issue is at the forefront of his campaign.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.bloomberg.com/image/iHgWyz3aIj7Y.jpg

"and I would rather be anywhere else than here today"

Euler, Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

newts 2.50 gas platform is such a sad death rattle

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

Gotta say I would vote for him if it was $1.50. Maybe he can settle for $2.00...

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

it would be better if we could get a ten-day demo of Newt's president, just to see how things go; then we could decide. like living together before marriage, about which I can trust Newt.

Euler, Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

newts 2.50 gas platform is such a sad death rattle

― lag∞n, Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:55 AM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

romney would be in a better position to make this a campaign issue since he could personally reimburse us for the difference in cost. "ok, that'll come to $40... but here's your $15 Romney Rebate®"

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 15 March 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

sounds kinda socialist-y!

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 15 March 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

romney just lets everyone borrow his cars when they need to go somewhere

iatee, Thursday, 15 March 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

Chuck Hagel has a few things on his mind.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

If the president is re-elected, like most two-term presidents, your fifth and sixth years can be your most productive.

lol where is he getting this bullshit

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

He's thinking of Reagan, the only one I can think of.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

I don’t see how Assad hangs on. [Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip] Erdogan has said he can’t stay, the Arab League has said he can’t stay. . . The forces of reality and technology, mobilization and human rights are just too strong.

yeah idk man

goole, Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

We Americans have this frame of reference … we see a problem, there has to be a solution... Well, the kind of complicated world we live in, I’m not sure there’s a solution to everything right now. What you have to do is manage it so it doesn’t get worse, manage it toward a higher ground of solution possibilities.

this is a remarkably sensible thing to say

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

a higher ground of solution possibilities

is this even English – holy christ

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

They're politicians, but guys like Hagel and Kerrey make a good case for unicameral governments.

pplains, Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

TS: Unicameral vs. Bicameral Legislaive Bodies

Aimless, Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

they have a thread for everything these days.

pplains, Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

"higher ground of solution possibilities" is an awkward phrase to be sure but that's sage advice.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 16 March 2012 02:19 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.clashmusic.com/files/imagecache/big_node_view/files/stevie-wonder-photo_3.jpg

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 16 March 2012 02:21 (thirteen years ago)

hi, tipsy! We've missed you.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 March 2012 02:23 (thirteen years ago)

Work gettin' in the way. But I am going to have a ballot in to the comedy poll. (Kicked myself for missing action movies.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 16 March 2012 02:24 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/14/us-usa-campaign-puertorico-idUSBRE82D16Z20120314

"Like any other state, there has to be compliance with this and any other federal law," Santorum said. "And that is that English has to be the principal language. There are other states with more than one language such as Hawaii but to be a state of the United States, English has to be the principal language."

However, the U.S. Constitution does not designate an official language, nor is there a requirement that a territory adopt English as its primary language in order to become a state.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 16 March 2012 03:24 (thirteen years ago)

wtf

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 16 March 2012 03:24 (thirteen years ago)

who thinks that requiring a state to have an official language of english is in the constitution?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 16 March 2012 03:24 (thirteen years ago)

seriously somebody drop a boat on this guy or something

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 16 March 2012 03:25 (thirteen years ago)

He seems to have forgotten that "English as a National Language" had been dangled about as a wedge issue by the Republicans for ages even though they never actually passed anything. Or he never knew in the first place.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Friday, 16 March 2012 03:31 (thirteen years ago)

a boat?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 16 March 2012 04:46 (thirteen years ago)

one of the biggest panels at CPAC this year btw was "why multiculturalism is evil" and two of the three sponsors were english-only rightist groups. the other sponsor was y0uth 4 western civilization, the closest thing to an outright american fascist group on college campuses today

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 16 March 2012 04:47 (thirteen years ago)

a boat?

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:46 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i just liked the image of a boat dropping out of the sky and flattening rick santorum.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:49 (thirteen years ago)

otm

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 16 March 2012 04:50 (thirteen years ago)

if rick santorum were like louis xiv and made a misstatement like that they'd just have to pass a law right away so that he wasn't wrong.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:51 (thirteen years ago)

if rick santorum were like louis xiv he would probably come off as a credible national leader

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:56 (thirteen years ago)

would also have dope gold-lined bejewelled sweater vests

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

who would be richelieu?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

Netanyahu.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

Not sure why people say he's disconnected from everyday life. No teleprompter, just a man and his cupcake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYBQcsBdl84

clemenza, Friday, 16 March 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

"And I'm really enjoying this so-called...'cupped cake'!"

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

"I especially love the old Hostess cupped cakes--they're just the right circumference."

clemenza, Friday, 16 March 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

what no FAMOUS CHEESECAKE

lag∞n, Friday, 16 March 2012 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

who would be richelieu?

Huh? That's Louis XIII

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

At least Louis and Rick have the nutjob Catholic thing down pat together

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

why would you get a CUPCAKE at junior's? lagoon OTM; you go for the cheesecake.

the kids of boris midney high (get bent), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

at least his handlers could nudge him toward ordering the right thing, is all i'm saying.

the kids of boris midney high (get bent), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

He's not a man to be pushed around by his advisers

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

he's a maverick

the kids of boris midney high (get bent), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

"I get it. It's a cake in a little flimsy paper cup."

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

the old hostess cupcakes of old

lag∞n, Friday, 16 March 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

Too bad that company is bankrupt now.

pplains, Friday, 16 March 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

Socialist Kenyan govmt regulations... Heartbreaking.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

Meantime:

http://gawker.com/5894099/santorum-yes-that-is-my-shirtless-picture

Joe My God writes that a passenger from an all-guy cruise—which happened to stay at the resort at the same time as Santorum—snapped the photo.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 March 2012 23:50 (thirteen years ago)

TPM's Fantastic Mr. Fox chart:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/images/romney-interviews.png

clemenza, Saturday, 17 March 2012 01:10 (thirteen years ago)

well THAT is an unnerving chart

j., Saturday, 17 March 2012 01:47 (thirteen years ago)

is hannity on board yet, i haven't been keeping track

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 17 March 2012 01:49 (thirteen years ago)

Shirtless Rick, poolside. YUMMO.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 March 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvZ4bhRrFcU

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 March 2012 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

This new preoccupation with documenting Mitt's every meal and snack is odd.

clemenza, Saturday, 17 March 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

he does his own eating!

Lester the Unlikely (crüt), Saturday, 17 March 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

'its kind of a play on words'

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 March 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

I think it's probably just a new phase of the campaign intended to confuse Santorum and Gingrich.

clemenza, Saturday, 17 March 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

Look, everyone! A robot couldn't eat food like this! ... (sotto voce, a la Homer Simpson) ... or could it?

Aimless, Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

Lol

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

He never actually takes a bite of the pancakes.

pplains, Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

it's an illusion michael; a trick is something a whore does for money. or candy, kids.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 17 March 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

the old hostess cupcakes of old

otm

plastic surgery dizbusters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

there should be a tumblr of just mitt food youtubes

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:58 (thirteen years ago)

I think Mitt should probably quit the food-related YouTubes while he's more or less ahead. Otherwise, you just know he's going to say something egregiously clueless-rich-guy sooner or later. ("I've never actually eaten a hot dog, it's true, but I did vacation with several grocery-store magnates off the coast of Italy once.")

clemenza, Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

the old hostess cupcakes of old

otm

― plastic surgery dizbusters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, March 17, 2012 2:35 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in this ever changing world in which we live in IIRC

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

I think Mitt should probably quit the food-related YouTubes while he's more or less ahead. Otherwise, you just know he's going to say something egregiously clueless-rich-guy sooner or later. ("I've never actually eaten a hot dog, it's true, but I did vacation with several grocery-store magnates off the coast of Italy once.")

― clemenza, Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:40 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

you mean like john kerry asking for swiss cheese on his cheesesteak

flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

Basically, but worse.

clemenza, Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

The food vids were the best. Everything else on that channel was disappointing to compared to those.

pplains, Sunday, 18 March 2012 00:25 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Snapz-Pro-XScreenSnapz288-620x438.png

buzza, Sunday, 18 March 2012 00:29 (thirteen years ago)

filthy italian

lag∞n, Sunday, 18 March 2012 00:36 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=834jIeRQd3M

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 18 March 2012 00:41 (thirteen years ago)

Teeny sent me this:

RAUCOUS CAUCUS in the STL exurbs today:

...A caucus in the gymnasium at Francis Howell North High School in St. Peters was shut down after about a half hour of boisterous disputes, some of it over a caucus rule barring videotaping and other recording.

Supporters of presidential candidate Ron Paul repeatedly yelled objections to decisions made by caucus organizers.

St. Peters police arrested two Paul supporters at the scene after they gave them "numerous warnings to leave the school property."

Police said Brent Stafford of O'Fallon, a leader in Paul's St. Charles County campaign, and Kenneth Suitter of St. Charles County, were booked for trespassing and released...

[...]

Participants in Saturday's caucuses weren't actually selecting their choice for presidential nominee. They were selecting delegates who will appear at two larger meetings in April and June, part of the reason why results won't be known officially until next month...

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Sunday, 18 March 2012 03:28 (thirteen years ago)

lol santo http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/03/santorum-charges-ahead-with-anti-porn-crusade.php

lag∞n, Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

So what's next, outlawing dancing?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

Porn is only damaging if you don't take rest breaks

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

wish somebody had told me that earlier

plastic surgery dizbusters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 18 March 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

Santorum this morning:

"He may have had some success in making money for himself and his partners at Bain Capital, and I give him a lot of credit for doing so, but that’s a very different thing than going out and creating the atmosphere for people to create jobs."

Translation: Mitt Romney always makes money for his partners. One by one, our old friends are gone. Death--natural or not...women...words...Mitt Romney is the only one left--because he always made money for his partners.

http://charlestonteaparty.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/romney-perry-cain.jpg

clemenza, Sunday, 18 March 2012 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

http://thebrandrackley.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/hardcore122.png?w=655

Rick Santorum.

Well, I guess this finally does at least let me know where he stands on the mandated use of condoms in the adult film industry. Before he was sending mixed signals.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

Santorum's call for all Puerto Ricans to learn Nadsat has not worked out.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/18/politics/pr-primary/index.html

clemenza, Monday, 19 March 2012 01:50 (thirteen years ago)

The high watermark of GOP moderation

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 March 2012 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

also http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/feb/23/willard-mitt-romney/

caek, Monday, 19 March 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

Anti-Romney ad being run by Illinois firefighters. If this stuff is showing up in the primary, it's only going to get worse in the general.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8DXBksXb2Q

butvi wouls (Phil D.), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

amazing to think which presidential candidate in 2012 was in paris in '68

goole, Monday, 19 March 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

I'll have to watch the famously long tracking shot of the traffic jam in Weekend extra closely next time. If I spot a dog tied to one of the car roofs, it'll make perfect sense.

clemenza, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

Some breaking pancake-related videos with Romney:

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/romney-s-pancakes-and-santorum-s-porn/6uyh6r9

http://www.twitvid.com/CKOSJ

This thread struggles to find itself.

clemenza, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:18 (thirteen years ago)

Dan Lacey, we need you!

nickn, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:50 (thirteen years ago)

If that's Daniel, Esq., seconded. He used to kill me on this thread, before he was abducted by Santorum's people.

Anyway, after Illinois comes the next episode: all-Mitt, all the time.

http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/fivethirtyeight/primaries/illinois

clemenza, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 02:51 (thirteen years ago)

Different Dan, I'm talking about Dan the pancake man.

nickn, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:11 (thirteen years ago)

The Dan Lacey Bandwidth-Abuse Thread (NFSW)

brokering (pimping) (stevie), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 07:39 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2012_03/rick_beaten_a_third_not_half_t036159.php

Romney outspent Santorum 7 to 1 in Illinois.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

Meanwhile, Newt Gingrich!

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=80A467EA-C00E-4C29-B424-169B10B10CDA

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

This is pretty pure:

Three days after that, on March 8, “Deputy Treasury Director” Taylor Swindle wrote Harmon.

“Sorry for the delay,” wrote Swindle. “We should be getting a bunch of expense reports out today and tomorrow. I’ll keep you updated.”

Harmon said he’s yet to receive any of the $27,000 he’s owed.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

"I dunno why I hired him. He seemed honest."

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

Asked about the reimbursements, Hammond, Gingrich’s press secretary, said they had rectified the problem.

“Am told checks have been sent,” he said in an email.

http://www.homevideos.com/freezeframes3/fargo178.jpeg

butvi wouls (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

Taylor Swindle has to be one of the all time greatest real names.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

For damn sure.

Meantime:

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/03/rick-santorum-says-president-obama-shouldnt-let-daughters-go-to-mexico.php

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

wait, how old is Malia?

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

who the hell lets a 13-year-old go on a destination vacation without them?

oh wait, it's a school trip

rmde

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

proof that santorum/his ppl are directly mainlining the gutter media (if you needed any)

goole, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:14 (thirteen years ago)

cant believe he is going to let his underage daughters backpack around juarez "earning money as they go". doesn't barack obama know that could be dangerous?

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxch-yi14BE

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

kind of amazing

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

Saw that this morning. I bow to that editor.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

Indeed. Brilliantly done.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

hahahah wow.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

the second verse is A+

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

oh that fucking rules

tempestuous alaskan nites! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

boom boom boom

goole, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

Man of the people

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

Meanwhile, Newt!:

"I will use my words carefully here so I don't commit a Santorum."

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

my dog is on the roof
my dog is on the roof

tempestuous alaskan nites! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

it never occurred to me to congratulate someone on their lava lamp

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

all I have to do is look at that URL...

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

xpost -- what kind of empty life have you lived

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

so why did mitt romney say the words "papa bear"?

It's sad he was a blogger (symsymsym), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 00:18 (thirteen years ago)

I was at a book-talk screening of The Spy Who Came in from the Cold tonight--bleak, squalid, a little depressing. And now I come home to Mitt Romney, Smiling Nominee.

clemenza, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 01:47 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHUSQwZ6gWo

the blond one is hot in a polyurethane Ryan Gosling way.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 02:00 (thirteen years ago)

That Romney brood is freaking me out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXHkOlDTYx4

clemenza, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 02:05 (thirteen years ago)

OMG these candidates are just gifts that keep on giving (sorry if this was already posted)

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/ann-romney-loves-it-that-women-are-upset/

MOLINE, Ill. — Both Mitt and Ann Romney turned their attention to the concerns of women voters at a pancake breakfast in western Illinois this morning, focusing on issues such as spending and high gas prices.

“Is there anyone in here that is going to vote for Obama next time? Is there anybody? I mean, we’re really upset,” said Ann Romney, who took the stage at the American Legion Post 246, where her husband Mitt had doled out pancakes to a crowd of about 200 before making remarks.

“And I love it that women are upset, too, that women are talking about the economy, I love that,” she said. “Women are talking about jobs, women are talking about deficit spending. Thank you, women. We need you. We all need you in November, too. We have to remember why we’re upset and what we’ve got to do to fix things.”

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 02:13 (thirteen years ago)

She must have gone to the Sarah Palin school for question/answer deflection.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 02:27 (thirteen years ago)

I came sort of close for voting for Santorum today - open primary! - but even as a spoiler I couldn't bear to do it.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 02:43 (thirteen years ago)

cmon people this is a team effort

iatee, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:06 (thirteen years ago)

aw c'mon guys Romney's only funny when he's running scared. don't kill all the fun yet

it's smdh time in America (will), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:07 (thirteen years ago)

fun is dead.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 04:36 (thirteen years ago)

my dog is on the roof
my dog is on the roof

― tempestuous alaskan nites! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 05:30 (thirteen years ago)

The former House speaker added, "If people on the left want to talk about talk show hosts, then everybody in the country should hold the president accountable when someone at his event says something that is utterly and terrible unacceptable as what Robert De Niro said.”

that could backfire for the right, huh?

brokering (pimping) (stevie), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 08:32 (thirteen years ago)

noted talk show host robert de niro

an electronic plaque of Abraham Lincoln's assassination (reddening), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 09:39 (thirteen years ago)

We have to remember why we’re upset and what we’ve got to do to fix things.

ignore what ann romney says and zone in on the zen cool of this sentence

john-claude van donne (schlump), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 10:07 (thirteen years ago)

The latest data on Latino voter preferences, commissioned by Fox News no less, shows that Republicans are getting absolutely crushed among Latinos. Among the findings, 69.5 percent consider themselves Democrats or lean that way, while just 15.9 percent consider themselves Republican or lean that way.

And if the election were today:
Obama 70
Romney 14

Romney is so hated in the Latino community that he is actually underperforming among Latino Republicans! When the votes are counted, he will be lucky to clear 20 percent. THAT is how toxic the GOP and Romney are to Latinos right now.

More, from Kos.

bring back the dream of buzz bin (Phil D.), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

ay carumba

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

caramba, you Republican.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

lol

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

d'oh

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

my dog is on the roof
my dog is on the roof

― tempestuous alaskan nites! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:30 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

catbus otm (gbx), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

thats a big dog youve got on the roof there congratulations

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

Ehh, I think the dogs are just the right size.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

Reminded of seeing this on I-5 southbound a few weeks ago, where some dickhead had no problem with his puppy dog wandering round the truck bed unsecured whilst flying down the highway at 60 mph+

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/429764_10150574806751596_681036595_9601186_105997269_n.jpg

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

uggggghhhhhhhh

dayo, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

you wouldn't store a lawn mower or a bookshelf up there. Why the fuck do people do that with their animals?

I see more dead pets on the interstate than possums or armadillos. Feral animals mostly know better than to run across an interstate, especially one that's elevated. Pets have no choice.

pplains, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

http://distilleryimage7.instagram.com/dffd09e2738511e180c9123138016265_7.jpg

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

literal smh

goole, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

for real that image caused an upwelling of pity for rick santorum from me.

goole, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

"Just think how much more robust and functional this iPad would be if it was made in America!"

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

I don't understand what is happening there at all

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

just imagine the santorum staffer dispatched to the nearest big box store to snap up an etch-a-sketch when that dumb quote came in over the transom

goole, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

... is that an etch-a-sketch?

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

apple's really taken a dive since steve died huh

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

"In my day iPads looked like this, and they were made in America."

x-post!

nickn, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

dan: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-romney-etch-a-sketch-20120321,0,2407636.story

goole, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

Romney's campaign just needs to start making self-desparaging comments every day, just to fuck with Santorum.

"Haha, once this primary campaign's over, the Governor's just going to change his shape like brown play-doh and start fresh for the general election!"

pplains, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

One Week Later

Santorum: "Do you see THIS?" *holds out both hands covered in green slime*

pplains, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:04 (thirteen years ago)

"we're kind of like a slinky, just bending every which way, going down stairs, i mean..."

goole, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

this is the most bemusing political race

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

Crusading against Etch-A-Sketch porn.

Aimless, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

And if the election were today:
Obama 70
Romney 14

holy shit.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

remember when folks were claiming that unlike the "black vote," the "latino vote" was up for grabs?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

How does that compare to a generic democrat/generic republican type survey of Hispanic voters? I don't really know the political demographics that well.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

remember when folks were claiming that unlike the "black vote," the "latino vote" was up for grabs?

I think there's a misconception/wishful thinking among the GOP that as long as the latino population agrees with the GOP about certain policies, they will ignore the GOP's unrepetant racism and (maybe! with the grace of God!) vote for them

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

here's your answer:

Among the findings, 69.5 percent consider themselves Democrats or lean that way, while just 15.9 percent consider themselves Republican or lean that way.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

unless something dramatic happens, this election (meaning the general) is over.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

and i'm ok w/ that.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

clearly the GOP needs to push for immigration restrictions retroactive to 1972

goole, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

just to annoy Morbz... was recently discussing the prospect/likelihood of Hillary running in '16. Biden's bound to be an uninspiring candidate, and it would seem like this would be her best opportunity. otoh, at that point would she be deemed too old? (eg older than Reagan was when he ran...?)

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7200/6857561938_c9ce9fd7d3.jpg

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

Newt Gingrich really missed out on his true calling as a prop comic imho

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

yah hillarys too old, has said as much herself

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

hmm in 2016 she'll be the same as Reagan was in '80

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not sure I would count her out if the political environment were right

iatee, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

she's said no a thousand times but who knows.

goole, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

to me the tell isnt just that shes said no but said that she will be too old

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

the fact that santorum is shooting an LCD projector on to a bare wall and not a proper projection surface makes me smdh u_u

⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

thats santorum '12 for u

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

eh if we're coming off of a second obama pres + the gop is still in chaos + the economy is okay + there isn't another strong dem candidate, it might be too tempting to resist. I'm not sure what I'd rate the chances of all of those things being true. but she prob isn't willing to go through a brutal fight.

iatee, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

state of GOP in '16 will be interesting - Jeb will run if he thinks the Bush name can be rehabilitated. Otherwise it's likely to be an even more ridiculous re-run of this latest primary season imho

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

chelsea will be old enough to be prez in 2016

buzza, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

o_O waht

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

that does blow my mind a little bit

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

ha i srsly just checked wikipedia

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

didn't we form an exploratory committee for a djp candidacy at one point?

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

i still feel he has the stuff to take down that elephant thing hardcore

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

The funniest thing Newt's said in months came thanks to that Etch-a-Sketch. To a child to whom he'd given the thing: "Now you too can make your own presidential candidate!"

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

wow man so....i don't check this thread that often but the etch-a-sketch thing and that eminem mitt romney thing...goddamn

this is just an unreal campaign

konybrony (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

where is ron paul's etch-a-sketch

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

He has nothing to sketch: he doesn't believe in government

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

he's building his own

xp

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

He's using one of those things you get at the supermarket, where you draw on plastic with a stylus and rip it from its cardboard backing when you're done.

pplains, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

The odds are probably low, but I can see where Hillary might run in 2016. The arguments against are numerous and obvious, starting with age and her public statements, but I think she has this core conviction that she was going to be the first female president, and that's a hard thing to let go of. Unless she has--maybe a controversy-free term as SOS, with high favorability, has softened that. She came perilously close to burning all her bridges in 2008, but she's well past all that; I'm sure her candidacy would be very well received. Whether Obama wins or loses would factor in. Not sure which would be better from her vantage point--it's hard for a party to win three in a row, so a loss would probably be better. Can't see Biden running in a million years.

clemenza, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

it's hard for a party to win three in a row

not when you are running against CRAZY

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

Can't see Biden running in a million years.

Biden's been running for President for like 25 years at this point

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

I mean he's terribly uninspiring as a candidate but his ego is gigantic and plenty of VPs think "I deserve this"

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

and yeah it is hard to win three in a row, but the GOP is imploding in such a spectacular manner, without Jeb in the picture it's hard to see where a galvanizing, unifying figure is going to come from in the next 4 years.

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

In six years Biden won't be in any shape to run across the street.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)

Jooooooooee the Biden

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

(to the tune of Joe the Lion)

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

Jooooe Biden's gonna tell us where the light is.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 22 March 2012 01:41 (thirteen years ago)

Now that the nomination's basically done with, Mitt will have to step up his gaffe-of-the-day strategy to keep this interesting--bigger gaffes, better gaffes, more of them. He--his campaign--got off to an excellent start yesterday. But Obama's side should know enough to sit back and let things like the Etch-a-Sketch story take care of themselves. (Yesterday they jumped in.) They're kind of vulnerable on that point.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 March 2012 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

I think she has this core conviction that she was going to be the first female president

this is a weird claim

tempestuous alaskan nites! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 22 March 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

I said "I think"--an opinion. And really, I don't see what's so weird about it at all.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 March 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

The popular caricature of Biden as either a simpleton (late-night talk shows) or a party animal (The Onion) probably doesn't do him any favors were he to contemplate a presidential run in 2016. Also he would be (slightly) older than Dole was in '96.

Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

xp Don't most presidential hopefuls have a keen sense of their potential historical significance and - in order to keep them going through the long, brutal slog - a certain sense that they are destined for it?

And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

I am sort of hoping the first female president isn't, y'know, the wife of one of the previous presidents.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

One huge difference between Hillary and Biden is that I imagine the core of Hillary's support still feels that 2008 was an unfinished story--if she ever did jump in, they'd be there. The core of Biden's support from 2008...well, I can't even finish that sentence.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

ION, I am hoping that the Romney team are actively trolling his rivals with this shit, and that they will exploit the standard Republican enthusiasm for / ineptitude with joeks to turn them further to the side of prop comics. Look for one of Mitt's staff to make an exploitable remark involving a flaming bag of dogpoop!

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

Naive question from britisher: Is there any ladies in US Politics who could potentially run and win in the next 3 elections?

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

Potentially? I think Elizabeth Warren might have a way outside shot, but she'd have to win her Senate race first...

Mordy, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

Is there any ladies in US Politics who could potentially run and win in the next 3 elections?

for President? Hillary's the only real national figure with the necessary party backing. As noted, Warren hasn't even won an election yet. I don't think Sebelius or Feinstein or whoever has any interest in being president.

I would vote for Barbara Mikulski though

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

3 elections (assuming you're not counting 2012) is a long time tho -- someone totally off the radar today could show up in 2023.

Mordy, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

OTM. 12 years ago Obama was a state senator.

o. nate, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

yeah no arguing there

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

I can't even think of a male who could run and win the next 3 elections.

pplains, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

I'm just saying that at the moment nobody really fits the bill besides Hillary

xp

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

'the bill'

iatee, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

Sarah Palin has a chance, and if you don't think so, you give voters way too much credit.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

lol pp

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

nah even the crazy people are sick of sarah palin

iatee, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

no matter who the voters are, sarah palin doesn't stand a chance bc she lacks the discipline, intelligence, etc, to mount a presidential campaign. she just couldn't make it throughout the entire run

Mordy, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

looooool

xxxposts

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

also everyone h8s her

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

except me

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

Palin cannot attract any of the moderate voters she would need to win. She can blather to the base all she wants, but so can Newt.

GOP might have thought they had something with Nikki Haley for a minute there, but no.

On the sidelines in a trash can grumping (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

Don't drag intelligence into this.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

someone as crazy as sarah palin who had decent handlers coulda won this year

iatee, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

i think the lesson of the mccain campaign is that there aren't handlers good enough to handle sarah

Mordy, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

yah handlers are overrated, you need a candidate who wants to be handled, even then you end up w/romney

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

how exactly do you run a campaign for someone determined to take everything in their line of vision with the grace and charm of an aggressive toddler?

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

agressive toddler '12

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

well you can't really, which is why none of the crazies were able to ride their momentum longer than 3 minutes xp

iatee, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

This Etch-a-Sketch nonsense is exactly why politics is so dull.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

"Need to shake things up first and then change things by only going left-right, left-right, left-right…"

pplains, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

just own it, mitt. own it.

pplains, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

If we can get Santorum talking about using the Konami Code I would consider it a great victory.

jpattzlovevampz 2 hours ago (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

loooool pp

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

"Need to shake things up first and then change things by only going left-right, left-right, left-right…"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXHoYVEOFqs

clemenza, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

Song's amazing...apologies for the video, which I hadn't looked at.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

haha, did you even see the screen cap?

It's okay, this is the republican thread after all.

pplains, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

oh lord, clemenza. It gets much worse.

pplains, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

^^^ suggested new thread title

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

I got through 30 seconds...my heart sank. I see now there are other "Shombalor" videos I could have gone with.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

what the hell is wrong with you

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

Moderators encouraged to substitute:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9xnqMZQltA

clemenza, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

DJP: sincere apologies. Posting at work, not screening beforehand, etc.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

Read through the GOP budget yesterday as printed in the Times. Only at the very end of the article did they point out that they want to reform corporate taxes so only money made in the US is taxed, which has to be the stupidest idea ever. Wouldn't that basically encourage and speed up outsourcing everything that hasn't already been outsourced?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e08JikyZrjY

lag∞n, Friday, 23 March 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#/video/politics/2012/03/23/sot-santorum-stick-with-obama.cnn

here's an interesting strategy; tell your party not to vote for your nominee unless it's you

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Friday, 23 March 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

can't believe that etch a sketch thing is a thing

brokering (pimping) (stevie), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

whoa so Tebow drew #KONY on Romney's Etch-A-Sketch?

Euler, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

waht

catbus otm (gbx), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

I am become meme

Euler, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

I'm waiting for Romney to turn the Etch-a-Sketch gaffe on its head and throw back Operation at Obama.

http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/operation-board-game.jpg

clemenza, Friday, 23 March 2012 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

I agree we should stop electing dopey doctors who engage in goofy games as president.

Smith... Frobisher Smith. (Viceroy), Friday, 23 March 2012 18:29 (thirteen years ago)

The fascination with gaffes is a symptom of the poor state of the discourse in national news media, no question, but as gaffes go, you have to admit this one is a beaut. It's succinct, vivid, pithy and it creates the precise mental image that Romney's critics would like to paint of him.

o. nate, Friday, 23 March 2012 18:30 (thirteen years ago)

I remember when Mondale came up with that line about "where's the beef" when Gary Hart was gaining momentum in the early primaries, so he turned it into the theme of his whole campaign. Talk about a fucking eedjit. That line was fresh for about two minutes. This whole etch-a-sketch nonsense is about on a par.

Aimless, Friday, 23 March 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

I'm somewhere in the middle of the two previous posts. Yes, they're silly--especially when they come from campaign staff, and not the candidate--and this one will be long forgotten by November. (Anyone remember Samantha Powers Hillary comment from early in 2008? Or the Obama guy who said something crassly political about NAFTA?) But I also agree with o. nate that this one was made to order. I do think it's "newsworthy," within reason.

clemenza, Friday, 23 March 2012 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

What are you trying to say? That Santorum and Gingrich don't have good political instincts??? xp

Mordy, Friday, 23 March 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

It's true the impact is diluted since it wasn't said by Romney himself. Although its still damning because it seems to offer a glimpse into the thinking in Romney's inner circle.

o. nate, Friday, 23 March 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

the thing about etch a sketch thing is that it's a beautiful, succinct visual metaphor for what everybody already kind of thinks about romney. it'll make for some great campaign ads. an adman couldn't have come up with anything better.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:12 (thirteen years ago)

I remember when Mondale came up with that line about "where's the beef" when Gary Hart was gaining momentum in the early primaries, so he turned it into the theme of his whole campaign. Talk about a fucking eedjit. That line was fresh for about two minutes. This whole etch-a-sketch nonsense is about on a par.

I was just becoming conscious of politics when this happened; what a fantastic way to disillusion the young.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, jeez, serious fanfic writing going on there (also note no discussion whatsoever of social issues, which is presumably the main area where Romney's non-supporters see him as "not a real conservative").

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

I couldn't find the clip I really wanted, where Linus says "I never thought it was such a bad little tree. It's not bad at all, really. Maybe it just needs a little love." Kudlow: "I never thought he was such a bad little conservative. He's not bad at all, really. Maybe he just needs a little love."

clemenza, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

Did I miss something? Is there an Etch a Sketch running for President now?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

whoa so Tebow drew #KONY on Romney's Etch-A-Sketch?

i had my students do an in-class exercise yesterday and one of them filled part of it with all kinds of stuff like KILL KONY.

the exercise was related to ethics, but still.

j., Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

comparing a state contest in 08 to that same state contest in '12 may not make much sense: the schedule was different, and by this point in '08 huckabee was already gone and it was basically over (iirc)

a better measure would probably be to add up everybody who turned out by this date in '08 and compare the running totals? idk

goole, Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

Santorum gets Louisiana...he's got momentum (...)

Hopefully Mitt and Newt will drop out now so he can prevent this from happening:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBMgCo-Wgs4

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Sunday, 25 March 2012 01:08 (thirteen years ago)

omg lol.

tempestuous alaskan nites! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 25 March 2012 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

red baby in a pan

dayo, Sunday, 25 March 2012 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

haha wow

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 March 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

gas pump suicide dont do it

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 March 2012 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

http://i40.tinypic.com/2amich.jpghttp://i11.tinypic.com/53ucxtl.gif

Hungry4Games (crüt), Sunday, 25 March 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

lol

caek, Sunday, 25 March 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8-aqyUQoFA

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 25 March 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/post/at-elite-gridiron-club-dinner-the-jokes-on-mitt-romney/2012/03/25/gIQAv5VLZS_blog.html?hpid=z9

it seemed to be Rick Perry’s night to throw those bombs:

“Yes, I would say stuff like ‘Solyndra is a country,’ or ‘The voting age is 21,’ ” the governor acknowledged. “Mitt would say things like, his wife drives a couple of Cadillacs, or his pals own NASCAR teams. My problem was saying stuff that wasn’t right. Mitt’s problem is saying stuff that is.”

Oooh! “You know, it was weird standing next to him at the debates. I kept waiting for him to say, ‘Pardon me, would you have any Grey Poupon?’”

curmudgeon, Monday, 26 March 2012 03:38 (thirteen years ago)

Something occurred to me tonight. I really miss Bruno Kirby.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/03/21/us/21santorum5/21santorum5-blog480.jpg

"Sir, in my heart, I know I'm funny. "

pplains, Monday, 26 March 2012 03:39 (thirteen years ago)

stress beginning to get to Santorum

tempestuous alaskan nites! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 26 March 2012 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

I love that Santorum is now wielding a physical Etch-A-Sketch in his speeches; it's like some Garry Trudeau floating waffle shit.

Hungry4Games (crüt), Monday, 26 March 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

I hope he starts talking to it.

pplains, Monday, 26 March 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

some Garry Trudeau floating waffle shit.

haaa otm

goole, Monday, 26 March 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

I hope he starts talking to it.

― pplains, Monday, March 26, 2012 9:44 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or rather, has the etch-a-sketch respond to questions rather than himself.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

I could see him turning out like this except with the etch a sketch:

http://www.mamapop.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/mel-gibson-beaver.jpg

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

Obama lost in Romneyville:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNxEDomUlXw

Not sure which is funnier: that Obama would step into this within days of the Etch-a-Sketch thing, or that Romney's calling Obama's comments "very, very troubling."

clemenza, Monday, 26 March 2012 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

eh this is not a big deal imho

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 March 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

Romney absolutely desperate to have Obama mention him by name tho lol

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 March 2012 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

holy shit obama politicking with important foreign relationship motherfucking russia? i hope to god he's giving all kinds of explanations every day to them bc that's his job.

Mordy, Monday, 26 March 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

"I will transmit this information to Vladimir."

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 26 March 2012 23:12 (thirteen years ago)

^^^Russian guy talking like Romney...I don't think this is a big deal either, and yes, he's pragmatically doing his job. I just think it's funny that he'd get caught on mike saying virtually the same thing Romney's guy said last week. I suspect Santorum will use this in the next few days to morph Romney and Obama together even more.

clemenza, Monday, 26 March 2012 23:36 (thirteen years ago)

i just think the admission that medvedev has to relay anything of import to putin is hilarious.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 26 March 2012 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

"mr president, there are nuclear missiles headed toward moscow. they will arrive in three minutes."

"i will transmit this information to vladimir."

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 26 March 2012 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

transmitting live from medvedev

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 March 2012 23:50 (thirteen years ago)

medvedev, president of the russian fanclub for vladimir

1986 tallest hair contest (Z S), Monday, 26 March 2012 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

vladimir, this is medvedev!
what is it, my son
vladimir, i have an important transmittal from u.s. head of state "barack obama"!
tell me the information
he says that he will have more flexibility after the election!
very interesting, i have never thought of that

1986 tallest hair contest (Z S), Monday, 26 March 2012 23:56 (thirteen years ago)

this is the kinda thing that's a big, big, big deal to people who already hate obama but it's not gonna affect the marginal voter

iatee, Monday, 26 March 2012 23:57 (thirteen years ago)

yeah obama's comment to that effect might have appeared condescending

who knows what these heads of state talk about in private moments though

i often wonder about such things

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 26 March 2012 23:57 (thirteen years ago)

sometimes they bitch about how much they hate bibi

Mordy, Monday, 26 March 2012 23:59 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i loved that

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:00 (thirteen years ago)

I would guess they are almost always less interesting than you would expect

iatee, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:00 (thirteen years ago)

nachos, 9 diamond whores, Tebow

Euler, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:00 (thirteen years ago)

The Russian Nachos were beautifully done and super tasty. It had a tiny bit of spiciness which boosted the flavor of the fish eggs on the sashimi.

Euler, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:03 (thirteen years ago)

Much better when you cut out the middlemen.

http://clclt.com/imager/drstrange/b/original/2342709/50a6/drstrange.jpg

(Have at it, Z S.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:08 (thirteen years ago)

mitt romney mitt romney's campaign staff just wrote this editorial for foreign policy magazine on obama's medvedev "gaffe":

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/03/27/bowing_to_the_kremlin

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:11 (thirteen years ago)

It is not an accident that Mr. Medvedev is now busy attacking me. The Russians clearly prefer to do business with the current incumbent of the White House.

This is understandable. The Russians have seen Romney lay waste to Rick Perry and Herman Cain. They want no part of that.

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:17 (thirteen years ago)

i think it's fair to say that "the russians" couldn't give half a shit about mitt romney

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 01:00 (thirteen years ago)

Sad that a major presidential candidate gets pwned in the press by a regime that's currently enabling the slaughter in Syria, but I guess every day in this campaign is sad.

timellison, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 01:22 (thirteen years ago)

hahah omg this fn guy

http://i.imgur.com/vmLe5.jpg

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

During an appearance at a Wisconsin bowling alley the former senator heroically intervened when a male member of a group of college Republicans nearly made the life altering mistake of rolling a neon pink bowling ball down the lane. "Friends don't let friends use pink balls," Santorum declared.

pplains, Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

Santorum was all over pink balls in Wisconsin this week...

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

omg Cantor pic

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

the quote really puts it over the top

lag∞n, Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

This thread needs a makeover.

1) Turn it into a comedy poll. (Officially, that is--unofficially, it always has been.)
2) Get the Rolling Stones into it somehow.
3) Make it more in the style of a Lincoln-Douglas debate.

clemenza, Saturday, 31 March 2012 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

Recommended to iatee:

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/26/models-based-on-fundamentals-have-failed-at-predicting-presidential-elections/#more-29633

(Follow-up to some back-and-forth we once had as to whether the economy was always the most important issue in an election.)

clemenza, Saturday, 31 March 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

quality lolpic

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1rm69uZug1qa7yfto1_500.jpg

Johnny Fever, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

well I don't think I ever said "nothing else matters", I just said it was always the most important factor - and even if it only explains 40-50% of the result, as silver suggests here http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/18/which-economic-indicators-best-predict-presidential-elections/ - it would take a fairly extraordinary election for something else to play a bigger role. even if the economy tanks, I don't think david duke could beat obama - ideology does matter. and campaign effects exist - even if the economy tanks, I don't think mitt romney could beat obama if he decided to only air ads with him in a bikini singing 'ALL AMERICANS WILL BE MORMONS WHEN I AM PRESIDENT'. so there are def ways obama could win even if the economy sank into a depression. it's just not super likely given a 'fairly normal campaign' and w/ a candidate w/ a 'fairly normal ideological views'.

iatee, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

w/ a 'fairly = w/ 'fairly

iatee, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

I know you never meant "nothing else matters," and I agreed with you that, in most every election, yes, it's the economy. The one specific one we disagree on is '68, where I just think other issues took precedence.

clemenza, Monday, 2 April 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

did I? I mean 1968's an outlier election all around cause it was a major structural shift in the party composition + a war, that's to say an election where the ideology and candidate effects were pretty huge. I think what I was arguing was that even when it seemed like the economy 'didn't really matter', it still plays an important role - 1968 happened w/ the backdrop of a strong economy, and if he had happened w/ an economy in chaos, nixon would have won by even more. it might not have won or lost an election but it doesn't stop existing as a variable when the economy isn't in chaos. if the gop falls apart in coming decades (I think there is a decent chance this happens) there will be some unusual elections.

iatee, Monday, 2 April 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

We're right back to where we left off. I conceded that the economy's always a factor (how could it not be?); I was saying then, and now, that in certain elections, though--an outlier, of course, or a perfect storm--it won't always be the most important factor. '68 was just such a perfect storm. And I thought then, and still do, that it's just semantics when you try to prove something in the negative (i.e., even though the economy was strong, it's still a major factor by virtue of it not being weak).

clemenza, Monday, 2 April 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

it's not just semantics, when we look at these things as variables, 'factors' exist whether they're expressed or hidden in the narrative. as far as the weight of various variables go, that's a good example of an election where it'd be given less weight - like, let's give it 20%. that 20% contributed to the fact that the popular vote was actually quite close between nixon and humphrey. in a world where some other major event happened that hurt nixon in another variable + there was no electoral college, humphrey wouldn't be far from winning the election, and 'the economy', despite not having changed, now seems pretty important.

iatee, Monday, 2 April 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

basically in both cases the economy mattered '20%', in one of them it seems more relevant to the story because it was part of the group of factors that lead to a majority popular vote, in the other story it seems like something that should be downplayed because it was part of the group of factors that lead to a .7% gap in the popular vote.

if you want a baseball analogy, the run scored in the 1st inning and the run scored in the 9th inning both contributed 'the same amount' to a 2-1 victory, but the one in the 9th always seems more important. a strong economy can be a run in the 1st, even if that 2nd run doesn't come it doesn't change the value of a run, which was 'nothing in a loss, but the game was closer than it woulda been'.

iatee, Monday, 2 April 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

But in your baseball analogy, both runs are 50% determinative; in the '68 election, the economy (I contend) was not equal to Vietnam or civil unrest in deciding the election.

Let's end this on a point of agreement; the economy was worth about 20% as an issue in '68.

clemenza, Monday, 2 April 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

interestingly the economy increases in determinativeness (there's a word) as it swings above OR below historical trend. above 2-3% it becomes very kind to incumbents, below that and the opposition has an easy lift. but right at that mark, it "stops mattering!" or, more accurately, is held at equilibrium and neither side can make a broadly-legible case on economics. and so politics tends to express itself on other issues.

goole, Monday, 2 April 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

2-3% growth, obviously

goole, Monday, 2 April 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

I think my main point was that 'stops mattering' doesn't make the factor disappear, it just makes its effect less prominent in the narrative, and as you say, decreases its determinativeness. also there's only 100% of determinativeness to split up so even w/ a strong economy in 1968 it prob lost share to other factors.

iatee, Monday, 2 April 2012 18:34 (thirteen years ago)

sorry everyone else

iatee, Monday, 2 April 2012 18:34 (thirteen years ago)

GREEN BAY, Wis.—Mitt Romney has long been criticized for being awkward on the stump, but his wife, Ann, defended her husband in a radio interview today, rejecting a host's statement that Romney is "too stiff" on the campaign trail.

Per ABC News' Emily Friedman, Ann Romney told Baltimore WBAL radio that she's working to show another side of her husband. Asked about criticism that Romney is "too stiff," Ann Romney laughed and replied, "I guess we'd better unzip him, and let the real Mitt Romney out because he is not."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/ann-romney-unzip-him-let-real-mitt-romney-170357495.html

omar little, Monday, 2 April 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

Unzip...stiff...get thee to the comedy poll!

clemenza, Monday, 2 April 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

guys Sarah Palin is hosting the Today Show

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 April 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

didn't she used to be a politician at some point?

TALiB KWELi SODMG (The Reverend), Monday, 2 April 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

8.5 years of political exp (6 in Wasilla, 2.5 in Juneau).

It's really a toss-up between her entertainment career and governing careers re: longevity.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 2 April 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

Oh wait, I missed her Wasilla City Council exp from 1992-96. So make that 12.5 years!

Johnny Fever, Monday, 2 April 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

Looking at these numbers, I'm reversing my position. She's totally qualified to run for national office. (PLZ RUN FOR NATIONAL OFFICE AGAIN!)

Johnny Fever, Monday, 2 April 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

They should start the show with the camera sneaking up on her unawares, as she sits at a desk absorbed in her favourite newspapers and periodicals. She then looks into the camera and winks.

clemenza, Monday, 2 April 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

Then explodes.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 April 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

each show starts with her performing a different clarinet solo

1986 tallest hair contest (Z S), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

The Maverick at once merges with the Lamestream Media, effecting a Broadcast Singularity. A supernova of bullshit is all that remains.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 00:55 (thirteen years ago)

trig is the weatherman

1986 tallest hair contest (Z S), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 00:57 (thirteen years ago)

i say this palin gig will last about as long as the rest of the gigs she's had

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 02:48 (thirteen years ago)

Todd Palin is the key grip

1986 tallest hair contest (Z S), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 03:02 (thirteen years ago)

In a Weigel post on the primaries today:

The electorate is like Tom Servo at the end of The Wild, Wild, World of Batwoman, screaming "End! EENNNND!" at the TV screen as it plays yet more b-roll of Rick Santorum feeding cheese to people.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

santorum and manchego

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

Read that as 'Mandingo' and thought "Do I really want to know."

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

Former Bush speechwriter and now Washington Post hack Gerson wants Romney to pick Ryan as a running mate and says:

Commentators tend to exaggerate current trends, so Obama is now generally viewed as invincible. But his Gallup approval remains south of 50 percent — a traditional indicator of vulnerability. Majorities disapprove of Obama’s job performance on the economy, the federal debt, job creation and health care. When is the last time a Democrat was so feeble on the health issue? Americans overwhelmingly believe the country is on the wrong track. Obama is essentially tied with a generic Republican opponent.

But Romney, who speaks politics awkwardly, now faces his largest political task: He must be something more than a generic Republican.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/romney-may-be-a-weak-candidate-but-obama-is-a-weak-incumbent/2012/04/02/gIQAHAlhrS_story.html?hpid=z2

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

he must become a stereotypical one!

goole, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

The problem with Ryan is I don't think he is going to appeal to many more voters than the ones who were going to vote for Romney anyway.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

I agree, but some conservative commentators (and mainstream media hacks) are living in a bubble where Ryan is perceived as brilliant idea man

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

Worked for Newt, didn't it.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

Please forgive me, I'm weak...anyone see you-know-who this morning?

clemenza, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

The Easter Bunny isn't due til Sunday.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a3/Lordvoldemort.jpg/300px-Lordvoldemort.jpg

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

apropos of nothing:

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17icnbuwaaosbjpg/medium.jpg

goole, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

sits to pee?

raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

looking for the one next to the glory hole

desk calendar white out (Matt P), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

District of Columbia goes to Some Like It Hot; Rushmore takes Maryland. Wisconsin polls don't close until 9:00, but "Tumbling Dice" expected to win handily.

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 00:22 (thirteen years ago)

lol at dc gop primary

mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 00:25 (thirteen years ago)

They should start the show with the camera sneaking up on her unawares, as she sits at a desk absorbed in her favourite newspapers and periodicals. She then looks into the camera and winks.
― clemenza, Monday, April 2, 2012 6:38 PM (Yesterday)

From TPM:

Early risers on Tuesday were greeted to the sight of Palin jokingly flipping through newspapers on the Today Show couch, a play on her famous answer to Couric where she was unable to answer which papers she read.

Sorry for quoting myself, but if you're starting to think like the people who write comedy bits for The Today Show, that may be a troubling sign.

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 00:36 (thirteen years ago)

i hope lots of people boycott the today show, then palin runs out to grab a cab and is hit by a bus. #amancandream

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 02:31 (thirteen years ago)

Did she do the "Oh hi there! I didn't hear you come in!" bit?

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 02:36 (thirteen years ago)

"how's that quitting your job thing working out for you?"

mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 02:39 (thirteen years ago)

Meanwhile:

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/553115394.jpg

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 03:17 (thirteen years ago)

HAAAA

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 03:19 (thirteen years ago)

CDN strikes again

raw feel vegan (silby), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 03:42 (thirteen years ago)

Next episode she's opening by coloring a coloring book.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 04:04 (thirteen years ago)

All I see is a question mark in a box.

I assume it's supposed to be a picture of Sarah Palin, so you know, same thing.

pplains, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

Image blocked by the liberal internet.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

Saw this in a comments thread and lolled:

Santorum will never quit - his religion won't allow him to pull out.....

On the sidelines in a trash can grumping (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

Mitt’s Super-PAC, Restore Our Future, had shelled out over $40 million, as compared to $17 million for Gingrich’s Winning Our Future and $7 million for Santorum’s Red, White and Blue Fund

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2012_04/douthat_cheers_for_the_crankoc036487.php

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/WashingtonPost/Content/Blogs/the-fix/StandingArt/gallupswing.jpg?uuid=Y-Nzzn6hEeG8NgaSd8tu_A

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Any guesses on who Romney's running mate will be? He needs a Hail Mary here.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

I have heard Paul Ryan mentioned a lot, but I personally think that would be a poor choice.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

McCain recommended Palin.

Seriously.

Frank Youngenstein (Phil D.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

He must be trolling.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

I mean I think he was joking but it's John McCain so

Frank Youngenstein (Phil D.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

ryan and rubio get a lot of talk but I don't think either would affect the campaign much

iatee, Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

Is there a Latina Palin equivalent?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

yeah Ryan and Rubio are the two I hear the most. both sound kind of crazy, altho at least Rubio would deliver Florida (probably...? Alfred? I have no idea how popular Rubio actually is)

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

he's not that popular iirc

iatee, Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

A lot of republicans not that good at spotting that they are unpopular, particularly with what they see as an open goal.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/pppoll-rubio-approval-rating-high-florida-he-would-not-help-vp

looks like his approval rating is a bit higher atm but its not the kinda situation where it'd be a slam dunk

iatee, Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

florida might be a stretch either way tho, obama barely won it in a relative-landslide election

iatee, Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

cursory googling reveals a bunch of "Rubio remains popular despite [x]" articles from 3-5 months ago

God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

Any guesses on who Romney's running mate will be? He needs a Hail Mary here.

he needs the Virgin Mary

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

Lol

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

Is there a Latina Palin equivalent?

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:49 (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

susana martinez but http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/23/after-palin-expect-a-more-intense-vetting-process/

caek, Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

I retract what I said months ago about Rubio. He means nothing to Romney's chances.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

what makes you say that?

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

Ryan for VP is being floated by conservatives who think it will set him up for the presidency in 2016 and are excited by the idea of a Ryan administration. Romney will look at all the fringey budget ideas Ryan has put his name on and figure him as dead weight.

Aimless, Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

I can't imagine Ryan really increasing his chances either tbh

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

Pundits discuss The Hispanic Vote but have you seen Rubio's "numbers" among Hispanics? He's only beloved by my cubanos. As soon as the Dems air one of his anti-illegal speeches he's toast.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

The Hispanic Vote isn't a monolith.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

Couldn't you say though that they're toast to Hispanics nationally, but could at least carry Florida with Rubio?

Could be the first time since the old days that a Veep's chosen because he carry his home state.

pplains, Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

yeah I wouldn't be surprised if
a. rubio gets the vp pick
b. romney wins florida
c. it really didn't have anything to do w/ rubio

iatee, Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

he CAN carry his state.

"rubio carry his state. he carry it here. he carry it there."

pplains, Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

daniel larison thinks romney will pick rob portman

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2012/04/05/portman-is-still-the-most-likely-selection-for-vp/

but his political predictions are often way off

goole, Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

When you're behind 658 to 281, just change the rules!

Effort to change Texas to would change Texas primary to winner take all, benefit Santorum.

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/politics/entries/2012/04/05/effort_would_change_texas_prim.html

Hey Jude, don't make it BAD MENTAL HEALTH (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

Effort would change Texas primary to winner take all, benefit Santorum.

Hey Jude, don't make it BAD MENTAL HEALTH (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

there was a pretty good nyer piece on rubio's numbers & his slightly fractious hispanic support:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/01/09/120109fa_fact_auletta

john-claude van donne (schlump), Friday, 6 April 2012 10:19 (thirteen years ago)

if the Dems had brains they'd run clips from Rubio's Reagan Day speech, in which he happily called for eliminating Social Security benefits. It'll scare the viejos.

A reporter friend who's covered Rubio since his Florida legislature days says that Rubio is the slimiest, smoothest guy he's ever seen: no problem giving two contradictory speeches to two different audiences in one day.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 April 2012 10:58 (thirteen years ago)

Mitt winning DC primary w/ 3100 votes made me LOL.

Any Dem who "tactically" voted for Santorum fully deserves President Romney (or Obama).

Good Friday isn't part of Lent, btw, hi guys.

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Editorial/091005/6_Scariest_Movies/carrie2.jpg

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 April 2012 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

all votes are tactiful votes, god isn't watching

iatee, Friday, 6 April 2012 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

“We should never forget who we Americans are,” he said. “Every single one of us is the descendant of a go-getter. Of dreamers and of believers. Of men and women who took risks and made sacrifices because they wanted their children to live better off than themselves. And so, whether they came here on the Mayflower, on a slave ship, or on an airplane from Havana, we are all descendants of the men and women who built here the nation that saved the world.”

Okay just saying, one of these scenarios is not like the others.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 6 April 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

oh ffs

God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Friday, 6 April 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

"I sense great opportunity across the ocean, where I can work for no pay as a piece of property! The dream lives!"

God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Friday, 6 April 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

loooooooooooooooooool

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 April 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

Every single one of us is the descendant of a go-getter.
Every single one of us is the descendant of a go-getter.
Every single one of us is the descendant of a go-getter.
Every single one of us is the descendant of a go-getter.
Every single one of us is the descendant of a go-getter.
Every single one of us is the descendant of a go-getter.
Every single one of us is the descendant of a go-getter.
Every single one of us is the descendant of a go-getter.
Every single one of us is the descendant of a go-getter.
Every single one of us is the descendant of a go-getter.
Every single one of us is the descendant of a go-getter.
Every single one of us is the descendant of a go-getter.
Every single one of us is the descendant of a go-getter.
Every single one of us is the descendant of a go-getter.
Every single one of us is the descendant of a go-getter.
Every single one of us is the descendant of a go-getter.
Every single one of us is the descendant of a go-getter.
Every single one of us is the descendant of a go-getter.

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 6 April 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

at least we know what's on Rubio's playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDi-Pph6UK4

God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Friday, 6 April 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW-m0MtRBX8

God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Friday, 6 April 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

we are all descendants of the men and women who built here the nation that saved the world

Not sure the Native Americans would agree.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 6 April 2012 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7ec0VI4Yl0&ob=av3e

Doctor Casino, Friday, 6 April 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

Not sure the Native Americans would agree.

At this point, how many self-identifying Native Americans in the United States don't have family trees that mix with colonists/immigrants/slaves?

God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Friday, 6 April 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oObPhHPvlwo

TALiB KWELi SODMG (The Reverend), Friday, 6 April 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

I really like this piece:

Deciphering Right-Wing Code: What Conservatives Are Really Saying When They Seem to Spew Nonsense

Which talks about how Santorum's run is free of actual facts, but not of actual content and messaging. The latter is the key bit, since just going after the dude on the fact that he's talking out of his ass won't matter shit since the folks he's trying to reach and worldview his campaign is trying to reinforce doesn't have shit to do with fact.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

The thing to remember is this: Even though right-wing narratives are often factually wrong, they are absolutely never content-free. Stories like this are always about something. And the weirder and more factually challenged they sound to liberal ears, the more important it probably is for us to know what that something is. Too often, our obsession with the gobsmacking wrongness of these statements deafens us to clues to the right's current motives and intentions that are frequently lurking in these strange declarations.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

^^^ totally agree with this. In the words of Homer Simpson, "Stupid like a fox!"

Hey Jude, don't make it BAD MENTAL HEALTH (Dan Peterson), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

A piece on how, if they don't think Romney can win, bigger-name VP candidates may decline (so as not to have a Quayle/Palin problem in 2016):

http://prospect.org/article/has-republican-establishment-given-romney

clemenza, Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

Damn! The fun of watching the Republican hard right voters fleeing from Romney to such refuges as Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich is now waning to a distant memory. It is April and Romney has finally put this nomination in his pocket along with his hundreds of millions of dollars of pesonal wealth.

What a dreary election we now have facing us. Seven months of unrelieved Mitt v. Barack! (shudders)

(brightens) Say! Isn't that Wisconsin governor's recall election coming up in June?

Aimless, Saturday, 7 April 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think rubio, ryan or portman have enough national klout to pass up a vp nom..romney is not going to lose by a landslide. if you're a career politician you don't pass up the chance ot be on national tv every day for half a year.

iatee, Saturday, 7 April 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

has anyone ever been the running mate on a losing ticket and gone on to win the presidency?

The Reverend, Saturday, 7 April 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

fdr

iatee, Saturday, 7 April 2012 18:30 (thirteen years ago)

but in any case I don't think that's very telling...not very many people become president. but your capability to even run for the nom depends on being at least a semi-national player. a good chunk of people who have been 'in the mix' over the years were losing vp candidates. and even if romney only has a 30% chance at winning, you don't give up a 30% chance at being next-in-line-for-ruler-of-world unless you have something better to go home to.

iatee, Saturday, 7 April 2012 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

i'd do it.

♆ (gr8080), Saturday, 7 April 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

Romney, are you listening? gr8080 is available!

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 7 April 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

not enough baggage.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 7 April 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

He shd steal some from the hotel he works at

THE SPACEMENT TAPES (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 8 April 2012 00:13 (thirteen years ago)

romney is not going to lose by a landslide. if you're a career politician you don't pass up the chance ot be on national tv every day for half a year.

A landslide might be in the eye of the beholder, considering that a lot of republicans have this image of Obama as OMG Worst President Evah. If/when Romney loses the party may go way right (and/or way crazy) and being on the ticket, even as the one dragging him right, won't help anyone's chances in 2016.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 8 April 2012 01:55 (thirteen years ago)

Quayle and Palin were probably distractions (they had myriad liabilities beyond having lost an election) from what I think was the writer's main point: that losing stigmatizes, and if you're seriously aiming for the nomination in 2016, losing this time in the VP slot would be a liability. At least in this day and age--the days when Stevenson and Nixon were given second chances seem to be gone. Post-Nixon, the record for losing VP candidates is not good. Muskie lost in '72, Quayle in '00, Lieberman in '04, and Edwards in '08. Most, like Palin, didn't run. The only two to subsequently win the nomination were Dole in '96 (third try, and 20 years removed from his loss) and Mondale in '84 (who had also won one election). If Rubio or Christie or anyone else sees a chance to win, sure, he'd accept. But the writer's article is premised on the idea of not seeing that chance ("But, if we assume for a moment...").

clemenza, Sunday, 8 April 2012 02:55 (thirteen years ago)

it's too easy to make too much out of the size of sample sets we are working w/. quayle and lieberman were objectively shitty candidates. edwards was the lame white dude in a historic situation but his personal shit woulda taken him down regardless. dole and mondale lost their elections for reasons that had nothing to do w/ the loser-stink on them. did the primary-loser-stink prevent reagan from getting the nom? would *anyone* be talking about edwards in 2008 if he were just some ex-senator? no way. out of the billions (? who knows) of people who have lived in america, 43 people have become president. your odds are not very good. your odds of being president are higher if you have the nomination of a major party. your odds of getting the nomination of a major party are higher if you are a nationally-known figure. your odds of being a nationally-known figure are higher if you are picked as a vp for a ticket.

iatee, Sunday, 8 April 2012 05:20 (thirteen years ago)

Best Homer Simpson voice: Is there anything you can't explain, iatee?

clemenza, Sunday, 8 April 2012 05:27 (thirteen years ago)

as a child who 'knew' Bush I's Presidency mostly from Johnny Carson monologues and Doonesbury, it's sometimes hard to believe that Quayle was a major political figure and not just a punchline

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 8 April 2012 05:30 (thirteen years ago)

the odds of a rich white man winning this election are not super great, almost all rich white men have not become president...but if you wanted to be president....it's not a bad place to start

iatee, Sunday, 8 April 2012 05:31 (thirteen years ago)

xp

iatee, Sunday, 8 April 2012 05:31 (thirteen years ago)

it's America,"major political figures" are all punchlines since the process was sold

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 8 April 2012 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

Happy Easter morbs

raw feel vegan (silby), Sunday, 8 April 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

Morbs is come again, like wheat that venteth spleen

God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Sunday, 8 April 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

his bile rose on the third day

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

he is risen indeed

♆ (gr8080), Sunday, 8 April 2012 18:14 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/ND03Dj05.html

Rick Santorum's mission from God
By Spengler

Rick Santorum is on a mission from God. He believes that, with all his heart. I do, too: I think that God has a plan for Rick Santorum, and that God wants him to save the United States of America. That plan, though, doesn't include being president, not, at least in 2012.

goole, Monday, 9 April 2012 01:25 (thirteen years ago)

gets better from there

goole, Monday, 9 April 2012 01:25 (thirteen years ago)

Santo rum

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 9 April 2012 02:49 (thirteen years ago)

at first, I thought it was some sort of g00gleproof device.

didn't make any sense, but I was trying to get into this guy's mind.

pplains, Monday, 9 April 2012 04:08 (thirteen years ago)

For all the George Will fans--oh wait, that's me--they were talking about Augusta this morning:

Jake Tapper: "George, it's an anachronism, right? I mean, you can admit that."
Will: "Sure it's an anachronism...I'm an anachronism in a great many ways."

clemenza, Monday, 9 April 2012 04:35 (thirteen years ago)

Sincerely curious as to the difference here:

http://cdn.theatlanticwire.com/img/upload/2012/04/09/CkjBk.jpeg

http://dallaspenn.com/pics/albums/politrix/KerryWindSurfing.jpg

I think both are perfectly okay uses of leisure time. Just listened to Mary Matalin explain how one is everything that makes America great, while the other was, and remains, some kind of badge of fraudulence.

clemenza, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think it does romney any favors but for better or worse democrats have to 'prove authenticity' in ways that republicans don't

iatee, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

boogie boards cost $10 at walmart; kerry appears to be wearing special goggles

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

I mean it might be a 'thing' earlier in the gop primary but the only people who are crazy enough to try and make 'going to the beach' a controversial anti-american activity have mostly accepted their fate as romney voters

iatee, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

democrats have to 'prove authenticity' in ways that republicans don't

Causing great distress for the nation at times.

http://thedriverid.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/obamabowling.jpg?w=1600

clemenza, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

I mean it might be a 'thing' earlier in the gop primary but the only people who are crazy enough to try and make 'going to the beach' a controversial anti-american activity have mostly accepted their fate as romney voters

and these people are usually the ones who make "dressing to go to the beach" a controversial activity

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/3pbXU.jpg

♆ (gr8080), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 00:44 (thirteen years ago)

otm

crüt, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 00:45 (thirteen years ago)

hahaha can't wait for the photoshop.

I will transmit this information to (Viceroy), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 01:05 (thirteen years ago)

Emphatic non-dibs on that, but I have a kind of dicey history with that whole genre.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 01:25 (thirteen years ago)

The Obama bowling thing was kind of hard to believe

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 01:48 (thirteen years ago)

I should have posted it side-by-side with this, which happened simultaneously:

http://whatwouldjackdo.net/hillaryheston.jpg

Just as awkward and far more creepy, although with the advantage of not leaving behind a score.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 01:57 (thirteen years ago)

Sometimes forget image tags:

http://whatwouldjackdo.net/hillaryheston.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 01:58 (thirteen years ago)

okay, now that really IS triggering palin bikini flashbacks

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 02:31 (thirteen years ago)

jeez, Charlton Heston looked goofier than I remembered

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 02:34 (thirteen years ago)

I actually wasn't 100% sure that was fake, it seemed almost plausible for a second, maybe from her rural woman period in the primary

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 02:38 (thirteen years ago)

that was really one of the most amazing coups, everyone just suddenly accepting her as a downhome pickup truck driver woman of the people, I still don't really understand what happened

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 02:40 (thirteen years ago)

I should pretend I intended for everyone to do a triple-take, but, embarrassing as this is, I thought that was a real photo dating back to all that nonsense she spouted in Pennsylvania in '08. Whatever she said at the time was basically in line with the photo. I'm a little too quick to search and post sometimes. Note to self: must check man-hands next time. Or suit and tie. Or clumsy photoshop. Or something.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 02:45 (thirteen years ago)

I have a vague memory that Hillary ordered a boilermaker in Pennsylvania or Ohio in the spring of 2008. Not 100% sure if it happened. Her version of bowling?

Aimless, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 02:59 (thirteen years ago)

Googled. It was almost 4 years ago to the day (4/13/08):

"CROWN POINT, Indiana – After a day of taking shots at rival Sen. Barack Obama over his "bitter" remarks, Sen. Hillary Clinton relaxed in Crown Point, Indiana and took a shot of a different kind – Crown Royal whiskey."

No shrinking violet, HRC, but a man's man, apparently. More of the same authenticity crap more likely.

Aimless, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:08 (thirteen years ago)

Kicking and a-gouging, the guns and the mud and the beer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AMDz8vDslc

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:13 (thirteen years ago)

one day that's gonna be a document for some ap us history exam

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:25 (thirteen years ago)

that was really one of the most amazing coups, everyone just suddenly accepting her as a downhome pickup truck driver woman of the people, I still don't really understand what happened

She ran against a black guy.

pplains, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:30 (thirteen years ago)

lol iatee

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:41 (thirteen years ago)

weird

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 04:32 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.judiciaryreport.com/images/hillary-clinton-drinking-5-30-08-2.jpg

buzza, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 05:12 (thirteen years ago)

Since when is Crown Royal some hard workin' salt-of-the-earth-type drink? It's not exactly Old Overholt...

I will transmit this information to (Viceroy), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 05:16 (thirteen years ago)

Canadian booze? What a pinko.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 06:07 (thirteen years ago)

I love that airplane picture.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 09:49 (thirteen years ago)

so Newt has accepted reality -- has clemenza? Perhaps you're ready for your general election thread, One's a Born Liar, The Other's Self-Made.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 11:12 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, sometime around Ohio. (A small part of me is still hoping for a Cain/Perry ticket to light up the convention.) Now, I know you haven't been on this thread much. When there is a thread for the general, please remember to be on your best behaviour.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

And daaammmmmmmn, woman.

http://theoriginalwinger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/bill-clinton-soccer.jpg

I'd have to cover myself with a volleyball too.

pplains, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

Man, I would love to sit around and do shots with H. Rod.

Frank Youngenstein (Phil D.), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

I'd love to put her in prison, with pretty much everyone she's worked with.

When there is a thread for the general, please remember to be on your best behaviour.

I'll be in the streets with the 99% instead of being distracted by The Big Charade.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

Morbz into handcuffs and batons, I get you.

pplains, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

tsk tsk

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

lol

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

Santorum has dropped out.

GE thread?

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

santorum has dropped out of what?

swaghand (dayo), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

the race

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

oh yeah, anal creme.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

our long national dream... is over

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

live stream at WaPo of quitting any time now

http://www.washingtonpost.com/live/video-1

raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

currently just a reporter standing around on camera wearing a purple necktie

raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

nyt sez 'suspends'. isn't his kid sick again?

j., Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

Please please please have sobbing children in the shot when he concedes

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, she is. xp

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

He is still on the ballot in Pennsylvania and other states, so unless he endorses Romney or makes similar noises, I will presume this 'suspension' is like a trial seperation and there's a chance he could get back in it. The hospitalization of his kid allows this to play out for him either way without blame.

Aimless, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

losing your home state is losing in disgrace

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

gee rush your headline much

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-04-10/santorum-suspending-bid-for-republican-nomination-person-says

goole, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

Taking care of your kid is a valid way to go out.

I'm of two minds of this:

1) awesome to have them using up millions on each other before the GE, so the end of that so soon is disappointing

2) the schmuck's entire candidacy was a transmission vector for the continual reinforcement of rightwing horseshit to enter the minds of voters & pundits & media consumers on a daily basis. The more times you travel down certain neural pathways, the deeper the ruts get. Dude promoted the standard victimization and resentment of your 21st-C American Republican, and drew attention to plenty of even-more reactionary fuckheads in the process.

3) should we have a new thread now?

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

Don't worry there's almost a billion more dollars that Bam and Romney will burn.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

xp, person on the teevee said that, did they?

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:21 (thirteen years ago)

all Republicans rehearse victimhood. Santorum has been a martyr for fifteen years.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

Santorum's particular flavor is different than Romney's, tho.

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

gee rush your headline much

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-04-10/santorum-suspending-bid-for-republican-nomination-person-says

― goole, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:19 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha i think this is a weird bloomberg style book quirk http://search1.bloomberg.com/search/?content_type=all&page=1&q=%22person%20says%22

max, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:29 (thirteen years ago)

lol that's so weird

goole, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:34 (thirteen years ago)

What a quitter. What would he have done if he were president and his daughter was ill? Quit that, too?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

Seriously disappointed they could not be bothered to stage a reunion of Santorum.jpg, a la the Get Back cover.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

I just watched that movie....

Moodles, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

netflix amirite

pplains, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

yep

Moodles, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

God, I think this motif needs its own thread.

http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/theticket/clinton-drinking-afp.jpg

pplains, Monday, 16 April 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

pplains has turned this into the 2008 Hillary: Needs More Kahlua thread...which is a lot more interesting than what's happening with that other lot.

clemenza, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

lol

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

In more mundane news Romney filed for an extension on doing his taxes, and there is older video of Romney saying poor Moms should experience the dignity of work (outside the home) if they want to get government benefits

curmudgeon, Monday, 16 April 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

new thread dudes

iatee, Monday, 16 April 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

LOCK

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

No need for Part Five, the Mittening, right? This just melds into the GE thread?

clemenza, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

Yup.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)


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