how im gonna make up something universal, doesnt even make any sense: IT"S THE TOP 100 COMEDY FILMS RESULTS THREAD

HEY GUYS A FEW STATS ABT THIS POLL:

* 75 ballots were submitted

* 663 movies received votes

* 3,170 votes were cast

* 88,441 points were awarded

If anything is in the top 100, it did very well.

GIRD YOUR LOINS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zcq_xLi2NGo

yes.

i didn't vote so i can bitch about everything

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YAY!

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# 100

SINGIN’ IN THE RAIN

Stanley Donen
1952
United States
(249 pts, 8 votes)

My girlfriend finally forced me to watch this. I've been really interested in it for quite a while. It's one of those rare films that seems to have no detractors. I'd just been putting it off due to my previous experience with musicals. Anyway, I went into this not really knowing how I'd feel, and found myself stunned on more than one occassion. I realize that my attitude towards musicals has been as condescending as most peoples' towards horror movies, and though I don't think I'll ever be a true connoisseur of the genre, I gotta admit - this movie kicks some serious ass.
― Anthony (Anthony F), Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:31 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, I'm pretty much in the same boat--I hate musicals, but I love "Singin' In The Rain". I think it's the same reason that I like the Busby-Berkeley films as well--they utilize the medium very well, and they're more formalistic cinematic works than standard musicals, which tend to be theatrical pieces captured on film.
The only other musical I like is Godard's anti-musical, "A Woman Is a Woman".

― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:37 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've liked "Singin'" fine since I was a kid, but Donald O'Connor grates occasionally, as does Kelly's robotic smile in closeup. Also, the score is composed mostly of songs that were mostly 10-30 years old at the time...
Among the MGM musicals, there are a number I like better -- Meet Me in St Louis, Gigi, The Band Wagon -- all Vincente Minnelli, all more sophisticated. He utilized the medium damn well (in his non-musicals too).

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:07 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Singin' in the Rain

That reminds me, I need to rewatch this

Debbie Reynolds danced til her feet bled in "Good Morning"! And Gene Kelly was kind of mean to her. Fred Astaire taught her some moves <3

Donald O'Connor grates occasionally

The not particularly veiled insinuation that his character is Don's professional fluffer gets me through some of the muggier stretches.

That reminds me, I need to rewatch this

― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:46 AM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I looooooooooove this movie!

(my #2 on my ballot, I really wanted this to place higher)

omg Eric hahaha

#9 on my ballot. Could've made it for the first Gene Kelly/Debbie Reynolds scene in the car alone.

I have never seen it. ._.

HEY GUYS A FEW STATS ABT THIS POLL:

* 75 ballots were submitted
* 663 movies received votes
* 3,170 votes were cast
* 88,441 points were awarded

If anything is in the top 100, it did very well.

One of my favorite things I noticed last time is that the jazz club dance scene with Cyd Charisse, she dances with her knees bent a lot of the time, so as not to be taller than Gene.

Damn she was a fine lady.

ILXORS NEED TO SEE THIS MOVIE

I remember the longest part of our class discussion about SitR was whether or not Don was manly or fey.

SITR is a thoroughly enjoyable and joyful movie.

(Oops, already slipping out of character.)

AP you should get a mod to copy those stats into the opening post of thread

singin in the rain is just one of the greatest movies ever imho

xpost Yeah, and the slippery cat gif too.

donald o'connor rules. pure vaudeville.

Also every line out of Jean Hagen's mouth in this movie is pure, unadulterated gold. I think my favorite is how articulately, after all her other linguistic clumsiness, she tells the studio head, "I . . . can . . . sue."

Donald O'Connor's eyes look 'shopped.

Given those stats, I'm beginning to doubt that my number one (admittedly a slightly strategic vote) won't make it into the top 100. My number two absolutely will, though, so I'm cool.

# 99

SWINGERS

Doug Liman
1996
United States
(250 pts, 9 votes, 1 first place)

I'm not nuts about the movie, ESPECIALLY the Tarantino references, which always make me cringe. Also, it really looks like crap. But Vince Vaughn is a great movie star in it.
― slutsky (slutsky), Wednesday, May 21, 2003 7:21 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I understand why people hate it, but I think it's pretty damn funny. It helps if you are in college.
― NA. (Nick A.), Wednesday, May 21, 2003 6:06 AM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

even Heather Graham looks pasty and sickly here
I'm trying to think of a movie where Heather Graham DIDN'T look pasty and sickly...
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:18 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

vince vaghan has half a thumb missing. true.
― piscesboy, Thursday, May 22, 2003 6:40 AM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Swingers (the movie) - Classic or Dud?

Woo, results! Almost certain bugger all of mine will place, but hey ho.

Swingers was one of those movies I voted for like "I know it won't place, but there was a time when it gave me a lot of laughs" so I guess I'm pleasantly surprised to see that I helped it make the cut.

glad (though not surprised) that SitR placed, though i thought that it would place higher than it did.

When clips from Swingers show up in that Hulu promo, I get cognitive dissonance from how young and fresh Vince Vaughn was for that brief moment. He aged as fast as Tony Curtis.

it was always bizarre to me that Vince Vaughn became famous by being hilarious in this movie, and then spent the next 5-7 years doing barely any comedy before he finally remembered what he's good at

still haven't seen singing in the rain, prolly because it's called singing in the rain.

my tastes in comedy are wildly divergent from the rest of the universe so I'm going to spend a lot of time stifling myself itt. I will say that swingers sucks tho.

haha ya totally xp

Haven't seen it since 1996. Not sure I want to, but I remember liking it back then.

Saw it once, immediately forgot it. Never would've crossed my mind to vote for it.

If memory serves, there's more dancing in Swingers than in Singin in the Rain.

i liked it well enough in 1996, though i'd imagine that it hasn't aged well.

also tainted b/c of the neo-swing wank that it inspired.

^^^

I understand why people hate it, but I think it's pretty damn funny. It helps if you are in college high school.

― NA. (Nick A.), Wednesday, May 21, 2003 6:06 AM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is me basically

Never saw it. I probably should. I like everything else of Liman's that I've seen, and Made was all right.

I haven't seen Swingers since it came out. No desire to watch it again. meh.

i feel like a lot of people havent seen it since it came out

all the ppl who voted for it

i love swingers. yes it's probably aged badly but im ok w/ it being a relic from the mid 90s

i saw it many times in the 5 years after it came out, probably only once or twice in the last 10

why rewatch swingers when we can get the same effect in 1/20th the time by playing youtubes of guy fieri and brian setzer simultaneously

jess OTM

for me high school was all about endless VHS replays of the movies that would soon be thought of as extremely played out 'cult comedies' (see also big lebowski, office space)

You see, without Morbs setting it off, results threads turn into listing how many times we've seen movies.

My girlfriend was watching Swingers recently as a comfort film - I remember liking it at the time, and hate it now because it seems like the template for Bro-dom, but she pointed out that it has proper actual Men in a homosocial environment talking about their Feelings in a fairly brutal and frank way.

http://youtubedoubler.com/3zyS

As she said this Jon Favreau was ruining his eye liner on screen, so I felt I should concede the point.

I saw it for the first time about two years ago. It's cool

lol some dude otm

(sorry) xxp

so what abomination is next?

Thank you for standing in for Morbs.

fuck dat ... i'm chanelling Alex in NYC

(b/c i'm quite sure that "raise yer standards, people!" is gonna be foremost in my mind as the results come in)

Swingers has sentimental value due to it being a bonding movie between myself and a buddy at my First Real Job; dude ended up leaving Boston to move back to Detroit and take care of his sick parents. One of my favorite trips ever was with this dude down to Foxwoods in his crappy car, where I turned $40 into just over $200 at the craps table and we drank lots of free booze.

I didn't vote for it, though.

I voted for Swingers. My gf calls it a men's chick-flick, which sounds about right. And yeh, blokes talking to other blokes about their feelings without collapsing into cliche is still not often done. I can totally see how you could see it as proto-bro-ness, but in none of the protagonist's hi-jinx do they seem like they're having fun . Even the trip of vegas is portrayed as a rubbish idea and a shit time. Also heart the scene with them making Wayne Gretsky bleed.

But yeh, I can also see why this is a very easy film to hate, especially since it's been stripped for parts by lots of lesser films.

i don't hate it ... not at all. i'm just shocked that people not only voted for it, but that someone actually chose it as their top comedy pick.

# 97 (TIE)

NETWORK

Sidney Lumet
1976
United States
(251 pts, 7 votes)

I think it has flaws as a film, but I like Holden, a lot of the acting is great, and the prescience and concept make it classic

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, December 6, 2005 2:32 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gabb, mine is mostly middle-aged curmudgeonliness. You pups gotta remember that.
Iremember around 1980 Network was shown on network TV with several of Finch's 'bullshits' intact, and it was probably the most effective presentation it ever had.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, December 6, 2005 2:59 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gabb, mine is mostly middle-aged curmudgeonliness. You pups gotta remember that.
Chayefsky is nothing if not curmudgeonly! What of that scene where William Holden tells Faye Dunaway about all the funerals he's been attending?

I like this movie for everything illicit and incorrect about it. Not because of its "prescience."

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, December 7, 2005 3:41 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think it's a glib, smug film -- has its moments, but not many. i liek the scene where that guy drops the knowledge on fich, about nations not existing and it all being business. it's so ott it almost works.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, December 7, 2005 3:43 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Network, much like Citizen Kane, is great because it is so theatrical and over the top. As satire it is otm enough to quiet the critical voice within and allow you to just sit back and enjoy the circus.

The Holden and Finch characters being crumbling old men gives the screenplay more resonance and depth, mainly because Chavefsky empathized with these characters and endowed them with some pathos and humanity, but also because the actors empathized, too, and delivered excellent performances. The satire didn't really require either man to be aged. In fact, the satire would have been sharper if they'd both been much younger.

― Aimless, Sunday, January 4, 2009 12:54 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Holden is really great, even if his role rounds aground on Chavesky-isms (he actually says "shrill nothingness" to Faye Dunaway).

The best scenes are the quiet ones in the beginning between Dunaway and her staff: her assistant reciting proposals for different shows in which a "crusty-but-benign" old coot stars, etc.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:47 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The famous line is usually misquoted. It's actually "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this any more!"

― Alba, Sunday, October 28, 2007 3:40 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"I'm mad as hell & I'm not gunna take it any more!" -- the thread for Network

I voted for it.

ok this is a bit better now ...

are you being all RAISE YOUR STANDARDS-y about "Singin' In The Rain", too? because if so ETERNAL GASFACE

looooooooooooved ned beatty's yelly network monologue in high school. haven't really seen it since then but remember all the OMG FAYE DUNAWAY TALKS ABOUT RATINGS IN BED SHE'S A MONSTER stuff being pretty strident/lame.

probably not as prescient as, like, rollerball, but pretty prescient.

and for me, the "famous line" from network isn't the mad as hell rant, but "man, give her the fucking overhead clause!"

it might be a truly great film without the speeches.

or maybe if all the speeches were knowingly scene-chewes ala ned beatty.

xp also robert duvall: "i'll strangle him with a... SSSSSSSASH CORD!"

are you being all RAISE YOUR STANDARDS-y about "Singin' In The Rain", too? because if so ETERNAL GASFACE

well, in the sense that i think it should be ranked much HIGHER than #100 (and certainly should be ranked higher than swingers).

Swingers is funnier than Network

I'm sure that there will be plenty of movies in these results that I don't care for, but I'm having a hard time imagining anything I actively dislike showing up, for some reason.

well, in the sense that i think it should be ranked much HIGHER than #100 (and certainly should be ranked higher than swingers).

ha I can't really argue with you there

I am getting the sense that I've had exactly the wrong idea as to what Network is all about for all of these years; I should see it someday

ok i hadn't noticed that someone had Swingers as their #1, that is pretty insane. it was literally #50 on my ballot.

Swingers is the worst.

And I fucking hate Vince Vaughn. I have never laughed at him. His whole shtick seems to be the normal guy alongside funnier people. Kinda a pre-Bradley Cooper guy.

I'm trying to remember if I voted for Network. I think it was on my shortlist but fell just short of making it onto my ballot. Excellent dark comedy, though.

not at all, in Vaughn's funniest roles he's the obnoxious chatterbox and someone else is his straight man

imo one of the worst offenders of the films that dudes think they should model their friend group dynamic after

and for me, the "famous line" from network isn't the mad as hell rant, but "man, give her the fucking overhead clause!"

― kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:30 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Mine is, "Because you're on television, dummy."

Network is great and has some laughs but again it's a movie i wouldn't have even dreamed of voting for in this.

good morning!

looooooooooooved ned beatty's yelly network monologue in high school

Actually did it as a monologue in HS acting class.

the thing is, the movie doesn't really portray them in a positive light. Vaughan is meant to be an asshole

and for me, the "famous line" from network isn't the mad as hell rant, but "man, give her the fucking overhead clause!"

― kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:30 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Mine is, "Because you're on television, dummy."

― jpattzlovevampz 2 hours ago (Phil D.), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:38 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Mine is "I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship."

Donald O'Connor rooles. That's all.

lol Eric, that one should be deployed more on ILX, I think.

imo one of the worst offenders of the films that dudes think they should model their friend group dynamic after

It's not any particular movie's fault that mentally ill people might actually do things like that.

alfred who are you saying good morning to and why?

To you and you and you.

Because he talked the whole night through.

#97 (TIE)

ARMY OF DARKNESS

Sam Raimi
1992
United States
(251 pts, 8 votes)

Aw come on, Army of Darkness was hilarious! Silly, but that was the point. Great fun.
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, October 20, 2003 1:21 AM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, the first one is an impressive achievement for the (complete lack of) budget, but ED2 is the influential masterpiece and Army of Darkness is one of my fave movies ever. So, so funny.
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, October 20, 2003 8:35 AM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Evil Dead - Classic or Dud?
(sorry! hard time finding a thread dedicated to army of darkness.)

Bruce Campbell vs. the Franchises of Darkness

The one of the trilogy that tries the hardest to be funny seems, to me, the least.

Network is great and has some laughs but again it's a movie i wouldn't have even dreamed of voting for in this.

I feel like satire is really gonna suffer in this poll because it doesn't fit a lot of people's idea of a comedy movie.

alfred who are you saying good morning to and why?

― internet somebody (some dude), T

a man can't be polite?

incidentally all of Network's Golden Globes were in the drama categories instead of the musical/comedy ones

oh sorry alf i just didn't know if you were saying hello to the thread or if there was some subtext! good morning!

I hope the other ED movies place higher, cos Army of darkness feels waaaaay forced compared to the other two, in both the horror and the comedy.

incidentally all of Network's Golden Globes were in the drama categories instead of the musical/comedy ones

Yeah, but they also thought it was pretty funny when Angela Bassett got beaten up as Tina Turner.

also Network is #64 in the AFI top 100 but isn't in their top 100 comedies list. so that Network placed at all here is i think proof that satire is NOT suffering in this poll.

I still haven't seen Army of Darkness. Must rectify this, though I didn't actually think it was that well regarded...

woah the Tina Turner biopic with multiple stage numbers was in a musical category? the nerve

i have respect for the Evil Dead/Army of Darkness cult but my introduction to Bruce Campbell was "The Adventures of Brisco County Jr." and i think i still enjoy that more than any of his movies

also re: satire c'mon you know Strangelove is gonna do just fine here

incidentally all of Network's Golden Globes were in the drama categories instead of the musical/comedy ones

Despite its critical reception, (The Tourist) was nominated for three Golden Globes: Best Musical or Comedy, Depp for Actor Musical or Comedy and Jolie for Actress Musical or Comedy. The fact that a film originally promoted as romantic thriller was nominated for the comedy or musical category garnered the film and the Golden Globes considerable mockery; when the Hollywood Foreign Press Association (HFPA) made the official announcement of nominees, the press room erupted with laughter.

crusty but benign ILE posters who are crosses between Grizzly Bear and G. Gordon Liddy.

eh Strangelove is "funnier" than Network in a pretty explicit way

#94 (3-WAY-TIE)

TEAM AMERICA: WORLD POLICE

Trey Parker
2004
United States
(255 pts, 10 votes)

All I've heard about this movie, politically, is that us brave Americans have to be dicks to stop assholes, and that liberal actors/filmmakers die horribly and are helping to guard evil dictators. What happens to conservative critics/actors/whatever? I'm guessing that nothing, because they're too busy SAVING THE WORLD.

SERIOUSLY does this not strike ANYONE ELSE as intentionally ludicrous? People really think they're arguing that a global stance that they're portraying as "be a dick" as a positive course of action?

(xpost: I see something that is a gigantic lampoon of the "national mood" that is going to go completely over people's heads because everyone seems more than willing to jump right into whatever stereotype is laid out for them.)

This is going to be like "Natural Born Killers" all over again.
― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Thursday, October 14, 2004 9:34 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not funny.
― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, January 14, 2005 1:20 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm with Cozen. Me and my girl laughed at one thing but after the movie we couldn't remember what it was.
― adam (adam), Friday, January 14, 2005 1:36 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I thought this was the funniest thing I'd seen in a long, long time. I could not stop laughing. A couple friends of mine who grew up in the same Red America conservative small town had the same reaction.. funniest. movie. ever. On the other hand, I had gone to see it w/some colleagues who were from France, Lebanon, and Argentina, and their reaction was.. WTF?
― daria g (daria g), Friday, January 14, 2005 4:09 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I thought this was a great film, and I'll tell you why.
Sure, the gross-out jokes were funny, puppets having sex is funny, and every time you get drawn into the story, along comes another illustration of the puppets' limitations (walking, for example, or even any time you see a puppet walking) to jolt you back into the real world. It even works as a take-off of the Hollywood film system. All the lazy writing, lazy acting and lazy directing is hilarious and intentional - a puppet has no facial expressions after all, and so getting a puppet to act badly is a tremendous feat and very very funny indeed.

However, it goes further than that. This film works as a high-level satire of a plethora of subjects. Obviously the US foreign policy is ridiculed, as is the anti-war movement, but there's more. Having actors as the most potent instrument of political change is a masterstroke of satirical commentary, and by reducing all the characters to simply drawn caricatures (racial or not) highlights how far lies that life is black and white have infiltrated worldwide politics, on both sides of the socio-political divide.

No, this is a great film, and worth certainly worth a visit to the cinema. It's the LACK of preaching that makes me like it - instead of taking the easy option of being for-or-against, it comes across as disliking everybody, which as far as I'm concerned is a far more likeable position.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, January 17, 2005 2:31 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's gets a bit preachy at the end there!
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, January 17, 2005 2:37 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha - it was unintentional satire since the speech at the end was VERY SIMILAR to the speech at the end of any south park which are always clearly meant and, when they veer into the political, always libertarian or conservative. when they get to the moral of the story (and they always do) they have no qualms with wielding a hammer. moral of team america: sure rightwingers might be dicks but if we listen to liberal pussies assholes like kim jong-il would kill us all. and 'liberals = pussies' is hardly a new joke!
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, January 17, 2005 2:54 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Team America:World Police" -- Come anticipate the return of Supermarionation, thanks to Trey Parker & Matt Stone!

obviously, yes, but i was referring to a post itt about satire suffering in this poll (xpost)

Okay, bye thread.

i've never seen army of darkness, so i can't get outraged/feel happy that it placed w/n the Top 100. so someone else can get raise yer standards/honour the fire over this one!

i have a hard time with Parker/Stone because often their comedy is as shrill and unyielding as what they're making fun of

Network couldn't be more explicitly funny if it laughed at all its own jokes. Which it does.

it could be more explicitly funny if it was one of the 97 other movies that placed ahead of it probably

tbf network laughs at everything and everyone who isnt william holden

i like team america b/c it has pussy and poop jokes. i didn't vote for it, though.

Raise Team America! This even improved watching Rent a few years later.

some dude OTM. It's humor by brute force. It can be amusing, and I get the appeal, but it's really not for me.

also Network is #64 in the AFI top 100 but isn't in their top 100 comedies list. so that Network placed at all here is i think proof that satire is NOT suffering in this poll.

actually it means that the AFI knows that satire and comedy are different, you incurious music-expert motherfucker.

and Singin' in the Rain is a musical.

so the problem is that ilx doesn't know the difference and should've waited for the top 100 satires poll to vote for Network?

yes because no one has ever heard of a "musical comedy"

hah, never

You held out 80 minutes. Positively tantric.

THINGS CAN ONLY BE OF ONE GENRE, AND OF ONE GENRE ONLY SHALL THEY BE.
- Morbz 3:16

tbf network laughs at everything and everyone who isnt william holden

haha ... of course, though, by that logic breezy is even funnier than network

You held out 80 minutes. Positively tantric.

― hot and brothered (Eric H.), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 8:03 AM

he's been edging

You held out 80 minutes. Positively tantric.

― hot and brothered (Eric H.), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:03 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lollll

btw Strangelove is AFI's #3 comedy so uh

what's uh about that?

oh satire - nevermind. sorry!

You held out 80 minutes. Positively tantric.

i, for one, would like to know what Sting thinks about this poll's results ...

strangelove even had a pie-fight ... though it got edited out. so it's a def. a comedy.

#94 (3-WAY-TIE)

SULLIVAN’S TRAVELS

Preston Sturges
1941
United States
(255 pts, 10 votes)

also, mentioning Sturges without mentioning Sullivan's Travels is surely some kind of criminal activity. Joel McCrea realizing how to get out of jail had me laughing for 20 minutes straight.
also, of course, The Prince of Tides. saw the last 20 mins the same night as Wayne's World, and while I liked that movie the Streisand/Nolte ending was even funnier.
― M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, August 2, 2003 11:31 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

45 Your Mass In My Ass 2005
This sounds like one of the fake movies from Sullivan's Travels.
― C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Friday, June 24, 2005 10:24 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the best 50 should all fit with a montage of peoples around the world laughing a la Sullivan's Travels.

also I will volunteer to carve the results on Mack Sennett's tomb.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, February 29, 2012 4:29 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Preston Sturges S/D

some dude, I got a bombshell for ya: the AFI is a really awful source to cite if you're trying to make a point you want people to agree with.

lol @ the thought that knowing the difference between satire and comedy is the sign of a true film maven

Too low. Glad it's on here. I'm always confused at the moment of revelation, though... did people actually think Mickey Mouse was hilarious? Did they laugh out loud at him?

I ended up not voting for that one as my token dark ages pick, but I endorse it's placement for reasons stated in the worst ILX thread ever.

nb: i hope that sullivan's travels isn't the only Preston Sturges film to make the Top 100. though if only one has to make it, then sullivan's is the best one for that.

Huh. I guess Team America got in by being the right era for lots of ilxors to have seen it. I mean, there are a couple of moments that are funny, granted, but it's a generally poor film.

I was gonna challenge Morbs on the musical/satire/comedy thing, but I've realised I can no longer tell when he's joking and when he's deadly serious, so probably best not to go there.

I prefer Lady Eve... hope it places better.

network is a ludicrous movie in which a black militant group is given a primetime television show and everybody talks in a snappy form of personal insult

if satire is not comedy you can get rid of 80% of my ballot

n/m the voting prolly sorted that out anyway

Sullivan's travels, OK don't know that one at all.

I can no longer tell when he's joking and when he's deadly serious

You can't tell when morbs is being funny and morbs is being a satire of morbs you don't say

some dude, I got a bombshell for ya: the AFI is a really awful source to cite if you're trying to make a point you want people to agree with.

― Michael J. Fuxxx (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:10 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

listen i know AFI and the Globes aren't unimpeachable but when you're trying to just tease out some vague sense of consensus about how these things are perceived out in the general public they're better than nothing. either tell me what other source to site or please assume i'm taking it all with at least half as big a grain of salt as you are.

sullivan's travels is 100 times better as a satire on politics and Hollywood than team america ... and it is a lot funnier too.

unfaithfully yours is actually funnier than sullivan's travels ... but overall it isn't as good a film.

I really need to know who put Swingers as their number one.

I voted for Team America.

I love all of the ED movies but it didn't even occur to me to put any of them on this list. Weird. Not that AoD made an appearance. Weird that it didn't occur to me, I mean.

network is a ludicrous movie in which a black militant group is given a primetime television show and everybody talks in a snappy form of personal insult

so you think that it's a sort-of a Juno for 1970's-era grumpy old men.

You held out 80 minutes. Positively tantric.

Yeah, but I still wouldn't fuck you with Bea Arthur's decaying dick.
THAT'S comedy!

Sullivan's Travels is THE Sturges comedy for ppl who don't otherwise like Sturges, or don't know they don't.

xpost Don't do that.

Sullivan's Travels was the lowest Sturges on my ballot. Slightly overrated i feel but still a classic obviously

Yeah, but I still wouldn't fuck you with Bea Arthur's decaying dick.

Tempting offer tho.

#94 (3-WAY-TIE)

MANHATTAN

Woody Allen
1979
United States
(255 pts, 7 votes)

i watched woody allen's Manhattan four times last week and every time i saw something new.

(this is not supposed to be shocking or sarcastic)
― poortheatre, Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:47 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And speaking of old and prestige pieces, nobody's mentioned Woody Allen, who certainly counts as an auteur. And of course his best films were done in the 70's (Annie Hall, Manhattan).
― Sean, Wednesday, October 10, 2001 7:00 PM (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i feel like woody allen in manhattan, and you are all diane keaton after the trip to the museum, talking about yr academy of the overrated.
― chev rivera (stevie), Tuesday, January 18, 2011 7:11 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I hate Woody Allen, he's a fuckhead.
― Ally, Wednesday, October 24, 2001 7:00 PM (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Top Woody Allen films

i like the scene in manhattan where woody+mariel are in the grocery store but woody's so worked up about diane keaton's pretensions (+ in love w/ diane keaton) that he doesn't even look at any of the shelves and his 17-year-old girlfriend has to do all the shopping. i didn't notice it until like viewing fifty and it's so sad/lol.

"on my prom night, i must've gone round this spot fifty times. if i had been with a girl, it would have been an incredible experience."

i didn't vote for this though, unfairly, because i've watched it Too Much.

Probably the reason I didn't vote for it either.

I had 3 WA on my ballot but Manhattan wasn't one of them even though I love it a lot.

I like Manhattan a lot, but it's the first movie to show up here that I have trouble considering a comedy.

Here are the Woody Allen movies I've seen in their entirety: Zelig, Love & Death, Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Sex.

He just was never a thing I was interested in. You'd think with a buttload of Jewish Noo Yawk relatives, some of whom work in The Biz, I would be, but no.

manhattan is woody's best film, even over annie hall ... but it isn't his funniest (that honor belongs to bananas).

Bananas was one mine. As was one of the ones that Phil listed.

i still placed manhattan (and annie hall) much higher on my ballot than bananas, though.

i think i put three WAs but one of them is #1.

Yeah I put Annie Hall a lot higher too. I trouble ranking mine though. After the fist five it was almost entirely arbitrary.

Voted for Army of Darkness - I wanted at least one Bruce Campbell film in my list. Great/hammy slapstick, great A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court/Gulliver's Travels riffs, great visual gags (mix of skeletons tied on horses and Harryhausen stop-motion animation). Bit of a nostalgic pick, too - it's a film I watched a bunch of times w/friends at uni. Never actually seen the first two Evil Dead movies, should probably rectify that.

i wish that they put broadway danny rose on this poll ... it's my favorite 1980s woody joint, plus it's funnier than manhattan.

I'm pretty sure I only put 2 (maybe 3?) WA films on my ballot. I love a lot of his stuff, but I generally prefer the less overtly-comedic stuff.

Never actually seen the first two Evil Dead movies, should probably rectify that.

Holy crap, RECTIFY THIS NOW.

otm about Bananas being his funniest

I think only two WAs made my ballot.

i can't remember now ... were any of the other Evil Dead films on the poll? i've only seen the 1st one ... which (to get all Morbz-style pedantic here) is a horror/slasher film and not a comedy, though it's funny in the way that all over-the-top gorefest movies are funny.

Evil Dead 2 will probably place

100% agree.

xpost

I put four WA's on my ballot. I fully expect one to show, two to def not.

x-post The first is definitely the least funny of the 3 iirc.

#93

LOST IN AMERICA

Albert Brooks
1979
United States
(256 pts, 7 votes, 1 first place)

I think Lost in America made me laugh more uncontrollably than any film in the '80s.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, May 17, 2005 2:25 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fave scene from "Lost in America": "Twenty-two! Twenty-two! Twenty-two! SHIT!"
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, May 16, 2006 5:58 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lost in america is one of my favourite films! "the CORE of the nest-egg!?!"
― mark s, Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:48 AM (5 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

S/D: Albert Brooks, the neurotic American Ozu

I've seen a ton of woody allen but none made my ballot. I guess if I rewatched take the money & run or sleeper they might've had a chance. my fave allen movies don't seem like comedies to me (stardust memories, purple rose of cairo, crimes & misdemeanors), or maybe I just value the non-comedic aspects of them. I guess that doesn't make much sense when I've got stuff like barton fink and bitter moon on my ballot tho.

also I am allergic to albert brooks

ed 3 otm re: albert brooks imo

lol lost in america is def. and exactly the kind of post-1950s film that i could see appealing to Morbz. (i didn't vote for the fucking thing [lol also allergic to albert brooks], but its making the Top 100 doesn't make me cringe like swingers does.)

total shutouts for Buster Keaton, WC Fields and Jerry Lewis, obv. Chaplin too?

there are still 92 films to get to ... it's a little premature to say that any film is not gonna make, dontcha think?!?

King of Comedy? (Jerry Lewis)

i'd be surprised if buster keaton was shutout

I could see lewis getting shut out, would be shocked if keaton, fields, or chaplin got shutout

if chaplin doesn't place it'll be due to vote splitting but that would be like the marx bros not placing

lost in america is such a weird, minimalist, ruthless movie; i remember it as only having like five scenes, and it ends in such brutal collapse. shoulda been higher.

#92

THERE’S SOMETHING ABOUT MARY

Bobby Farrelly, Peter Farrelly
1998
United States
(258 pts, 11 votes)

The only funny thing about Something About Mary was that cameo, the strange "Ok what in the holy fuck" feeling you get when you realize that Mary's wonderful, charming, kind boyfriend Brett she's been talking up the whole fucking movie like some kind of imbecile yet is now leaving for...Ben Stiller??? is Brett Favre. Also he sings and dances in the credits. Not quite enough to make the film worthwhile, I still want those 2 hours back, but pretty awesome anyway.
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:39 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"There's Something About Mary" is redeemed somewhat by the Jonathan Richman theme song.
― St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Friday, August 6, 2004 11:04 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"There's something about Mary. I can't put my finger on it, but I think it might be her tits."
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, August 6, 2004 11:24 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the secret lies here:
just prior to a party this evening, I had a wank. Then I went to the party and not only chatted up an attractive girl, but managed to chat her up so well that the possibly more attractive guys who came over to try and move in on my position were completely ignored. After the party, she came up to me and asked for my number. Why did this work? I didn't give a muthafuck and I thank the wank for that.
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, October 24, 2004 3:13 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Were you actually inspired by "There's Something About Mary", or is this wank-before-you-meet-her a common technique?
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, October 24, 2004 3:16 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Best scene/moment in 'There's Something About Mary'

lol forgot lewis was in king of comedy, and it's on my ballot

not really a true lewis film tho, it would be like julie andrews placing in the musical poll for S.O.B.

Kingpin's funnier.

oh god dammit, I forgot to put Sleeper on my ballot

Lewis could get shut out. I didn't give Nutty Professor a vote on my ballot (well, not the Lewis version anyway).

fuck a farrelly bros

There's Something About Mary is like The Hangover or w/e for me where everyone sees it and the it's the big blockbuster comedy of the year but it doesn't even strike me as especially great as a cheesy studio comedy

voted for Dumb & Dumber though

I stanned for them a little when they went mi**lebrow, much like the rest of Film Comment's target demo. But Mary is filled with not funny things.

Jonathan Richman as greek chorus is pretty inherently funny though

i have fond memories of stuff matt dillon did, but i have no desire to revisit Mary really.

not really a true lewis film tho, it would be like julie andrews placing in the musical poll for S.O.B.

never knew Lewis and Scorsese were married.

it's a little premature to say that any film is not gonna make

No, bcz about 80% of the voters have not seen a Fields or Lewis film, and never will.

what, only you can judge films without seeing them?

haha shut up Morbs

<I>Is</I> there a famous WC Fields film?

(will be performing HTML pratfalls all day)

I could see the bank dick placing

you know how ilx loves dick joeks

i don't know what this 'never will' stuff is. i'm one of the whippersnappers who voted for a bunch of microwaved modern comedies but i absolutely want to someday see all the oldies morbs scolds us for not knowing, and imagine i will enjoy most or all of them.

lol at me having a quote in support of swingers. i would probably not rep for it today. but i haven't seen it in a million years.

i don't think i voted for any of these so far? probably should have voted for singin' in the rain though.

approve of results so far. except for Swingers, which is straight obnoxious garbage.

Had this been a top 100 ballot I bet I would have run out of modern kicks and included more "that was fun, bet it blew minds in 1943, glad this movie is in the smithsonian"-type films

#89 (3-WAY-TIE)

TROUBLE IN PARADISE

Ernst Lubitsch
1932
United States
(259 pts, 6 votes)

i watched trouble in paradise with a girl over the holiday break and she squealed joyously through most of it.
kind of a keeper, that one.
― do you want me to share what i know w/ you or not? (forksclovetofu), Monday, January 2, 2012 6:15 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

trouble in paradise is indeed the best film ever, b&w or not. are we having a 1930s movie poll soon?
― :| (....), Wednesday, January 5, 2005 3:10 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hi dere, I like this movie.
― Remy IS THE Snush (x Jeremy), Saturday, January 15, 2005 1:35 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

be sure to watch the RESTORED version of Trouble in Paradise, with Miriam Hopkins shitting in a sink
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Monday, March 5, 2012 2:53 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

trouble in paradise

TONSILS!

Harland Williams is the funniest thing in There's Something About Mary, and he's in it for all of, what, three minutes?

ah i remember harland williams. i voted for half baked!

lost in america is such a weird, minimalist, ruthless movie; i remember it as only having like five scenes, and it ends in such brutal collapse. shoulda been higher.

― the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:55 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ this. Although I wouldn't call "And I eat shit?" a brutal collapse necessarily, but yeah, a dashing of his dreams.

^phil otm! 7 its all abt 7. 7 chipmunks swingin on a branch eatin lots of sunflowers on my uncles ranch, you know that old tale from the sea!

also, Morbz seems to grasp some basic math principles -- i.e., if the "handful" of old-timey film stans cram the top of their ballots with keaton, chaplin, wc fields and jerry lewis films and the old-timey fans aren't massively underrepresented vis-a-vis the non-old-timey fans then there's still a good chance that certain of their films could make the Top 100.

seems to need to grasp some basic math principles, i meant

total shutouts for Buster Keaton, WC Fields and Jerry Lewis, obv. Chaplin too?

― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:52 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Jeez, Morbz, all you had to do was put The Errand Boy in your top 10 like I did.

6 votes for Trouble in Paradise = average 43 points! I suspect that'll be hard to beat.

xp or not, that is a good point.

TIP might've been my #1 (I don't remember).

Either way it's perfect.

it's one of the few movies – let alone comedies – that manages to create and sustain a tone.

Had this been a top 100 ballot I bet I would have run out of modern kicks and included more "that was fun, bet it blew minds in 1943, glad this movie is in the smithsonian"-type films

― da croupier, Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:06 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ok, this is what i think of trouble in paradise -- maybe i should watch it again (and i can respect someone voting for it), but this is def an example of quaint-lol-1930s AFAIC.

amused that the two movies so far that i voted for (trouble in paradise, lost in america) are both morbspix, let's see how long i can keep this affinity up

xpost But it made a modern girl squeal!

i've only seen one lubitsch, which i voted for (not TIP) - his work is definitely the biggest gap in my comedy canon viewing, aside from keaton.

Some gaps don't need to be filled.

Byron couldn't have said it more graciously.

hey guys trouble in paradise had 1 first place vote. left that off. sincere apologies!

I try to avoid not-high-enough disbelief, but I'm genuinely surprised Lost in America is so low.

Herbert Marshall proving you can be sexy with a fake leg and being shown in profile for 90% of the movie.

I saw Trouble In Paradise for the first time a couple of months ago and i dunno, it seemed a bit too restrained or something? In comparison to the '30s stuff i really like anyway. I'm probably a philistine though

Well, it's not screwball, and, yeah, the tone and pace take getting used to. It's like Congreve or something.

"Are there really people talking like this?"

My favorite part of "Trouble In Paradise" is to play 'spot the gondolas'... try to find them; I'm convinced there are an even dozen of them scattered throughout the film.

show me where lubitsch touched you

but I do find the Edward Everett Horton joeks go on a bit

Some gaps don't need to be filled.

like some brain cavities and dance cards

Eisbaer not understanding the precious few all-timers are going to vote for different masterworks.

and then they will die

RELEASE THE APATOW

#89 (3-WAY-TIE)

PINK FLAMINGOS

John Waters
1972
United States
(259 pts, 8 votes)

I like how all of the scenes he had to cut in Pink Flamingos are really short, but he left in heaps of shots of the trailor burning! I mean really I'm sure there was room for that pig latin bit.
Pink Flamingos is my favourite and I could read Shock Value over and over again, well I have.
― Elisabeth (Elisabeth), Sunday, March 9, 2003 5:12 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Waters has been one of the leading advocates of obtaining parole for Leslie Van Houten. He even dedicated "Pink Flamingos" to Sadie, Katie & Leslie.
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Tuesday, July 20, 2004 7:40 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

PINK FLAMINGOS!!! "You can eat shit for all I care!", "There's two kinds of people in the world, my kind and assholes", "No one sends you a bowel movement and lives!", "Do my balls, mama!", "But WHAT if one day there's no more EGGS?!"
― dave q, Friday, September 7, 2001 7:00 PM (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"You stand convicted of Assholism!" -- in praise of John Waters

xxpost

http://sharetv.org/images/the_simpsons/comic_book_guy-char.jpg

"Oh, I've wasted my life."

I think I voted for that just to make sure it got in, but it was probably the lowest of the 4 or 5 JW movies on my ballot.

i.e. a strategic vote

Arrow's impossibility theorem strikes again.

No, bcz about 80% of the voters have not seen a Fields or Lewis film, and never will.

Unsurprisingly, you're more than a little myopic in the use of your amazing precognitive powers.

more like 80% of the voices in my head haven't seen a Fields or Lewis film, and never will, amirite?

I'll believe when I listen to a Led Zeppelin LP all the way through

john waters is one of my gaps in comedy films ... only seen cecil b. demented which i liked a lot (lol Entourage Douchebag-in-Chief actually has some talent) but i didn't vote for it and i liked it as much for its lol 1990s-indies-über-alles cast/mindset than for lols.

Woah how did I forget to vote for a single JW? Man, I fucked this up.

You've never seen Hairspray or Cry Baby? I feel like those were on TV all the time for a while when I was growing up.

I like waters better as an essayist than as a filmmaker

sadly, no ... no hairspray or cry baby. i haven't seen the John Travolta hairspray either.

though as far as John Travolta and comedy go, i think that he'll never top either stayin' alive or battlefield earth.

Oh, I haven't seen the Travolta hairspray. Just looking at him in costume was horrifying enough. I saw JW do a one man Christmas themed show a couple months ago. He was hilarious.

JW does anticomedy more than comedy in his grunge period (hence his #1 stan here). Serial Mom is his ace 'normal' comedy.

PF & Trouble in Paradise wd make quite a doublebill tho.

Yay! I voted for Pink Flamingos. It almost makes up for that Jonathan-Richman-ruining utterly unfunny piece of crap placing. Except for the fact that it should have been higher.

I could have voted for every single Waters film, I think, but left it at two for fear of overly stanning.

Voted for Serial Mom too.

Serial Mom is Waters' 'normal' comedy... but it's basically impossible to imagine anybody else making it.

I like waters better as an essayist than as a filmmaker

― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:40 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

as an erstwhile JW obsessive i'm kinda with this now, but i'd have voted 'female trouble' in my top ten for sure (had i voted)

JW does anticomedy more than comedy in his grunge period (hence his #1 stan here). Serial Mom is his ace 'normal' comedy.

― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:42 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i worship JW but didn't vote for any of his movies for basically this reason. i probably get more sincere belly laughs out of his aforementioned one man show speaking engagements.

One of the more horrifying experiences of the last 20 years was convincing my parents, Waters virgins, to watch Serial Mom with me.

i'm waiting for all hell to break loose on this thread when we find out that a Kevin Smith film made the Top 100.

reminds me of the time I convinced my divorcing dad and stepmom to watch war of the roses

xp

For some reason I thought it would be a good idea to watch Superbad with my dad a couple years ago. Jonah Hill had let about eight "pussies" fly by the time we were 5 mins. in. It was a tense 5 mins.

I can't even imagine attempting to explain JW to either of my parents tbh.

my favorite part of spring is the annual Flying of the Pussies

thank god for quotation marks

that was total DJP bait btw

PULL

cock your weapons

even though it isn't a comedy, the 1st time i rented full metal jacket i was still living with my parents ... and during the whole time when R Lee Ermey was doing his over-the-top-obscene drill sergeant routine for the recruits, i didn't realize that my father was skulking in the back of the (darkened) TV room watching. (fortunately for me, he thought it was hilarious ... and at least he didn't stick around for the "me so horny!" Vietnamese hooker.)

I've watched a lot of pretty offensive stuff with my dad but Superbad was by far the worst. They may not show much but the subject matter/language is just ott ridic. It had been at least a year since I had seen it so I'd forgotten just how gross it was.

It wasn't even excuse myself to go to the bathroom or make a drink during the uncomfortable parts bad. It was so bad we stopped watching.

I watched Boogie Nights with my grandparents. After having already seen it twice. They were cool with it.

so ENBB you're saying it was so bad that it was...superbad?

i must not remember very much about superbad

i did make friends of mine watch 'pink flamingos' once, that was fun

speaking of superbad ... let's anticipate Morbz's reaction if/when it makes the Top 100.

I'll believe when I listen to a Led Zeppelin LP all the way through

Okay, Morbs, that's officially the single saddest thing you've ever said here.

x-post - I love Superbad and it was totally in my top 10. I can't even remember having laughed as hard in a movie theater as I did when I saw that. I couldn't breathe for half of it. I can sort of take or leave all other Apatow things (SB was the only one that made my ballot) but that one is hilarious. I'm sure my father would have thought so too. It just wasn't something we ever had to watch together. Ever.

i guess Austerity Ponies is eating lunch right now? i sit waiting for #88 et al.

the first 15 mins of Full Metal Jacket rocked the theater with laughter like few things I've experienced. I was grinning w/ anticipation for the comedown, having read the novella.

Dad ENBB has right attitude, wd have a beer with.

where are the clips & stills btw

anyway, helllloooooo... i must be going....

you're joking right

where are the clips & stills btw

I was gonna say something about being a little crestfallen these entries weren't accompanied by screengrabs of poop and such, but tabulating results is job enough.

Yeah, AP said in the noms thread that he didn't have the time/ability to do the purty screencaps like the action poll had.

nothing's to stop the rest of us...

(except laziness obviously)

nice screencaps are a bonus in these things but tbh not anything i'd ever think about or miss when they're not there

If Austerity Ponies sends me the results I'll make JPGs for em.

yeah AP asked if anyone would do screengrabs but nobody rose to the occasion... or they didn't want to be measured against omar's high standards and be found wanting

I'll do the first batch now...

http://www.moma.org/explore/inside_out/inside_out/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/LubitschTroubleinParadise.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7057/7021429399_40cee3ced0_o.jpg

what is he holding? is that a millipede?

yeah, it looks like that creature that Ricardo Montalban stuck in Chekov's ear in the wrath of khan.

#89 (3-WAY-TIE)

A SERIOUS MAN

Ethan Coen, Joel Coen
2009
United States
(259 pts, 8 votes)

the film is somewhere in between "great" (in parts) to mediocre/embarrassing (in other parts).

the last 30 minutes or so of the film (esp. the bar mitzvah scene) are truely great: only then did The Coen brothers took the film seriously and thoghtfully as they didnt for (most of) the rest of the movie, which is a not-so-much-inspiring take on judaism as philosophy and culture.
the comedy is vulgar on those parts because it was done while the directors didnt take their "job" seriously, and as a result - the characters,the story, the jokes are shallow, and some people would say even anti-semite (as they did).
at least they did made the effort to make the movie into something profound - a piece of art - at the last part,saving it from being their worst movie into being somewhere in the middle between their best and their worst to date.

still - some good sequences there too - the one where Gopnick is fixing the antenna on the roof is brilliant,for example.
― Zeno, Sunday, October 4, 2009 5:22 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i keep thinking about this movie. the two keys for me are the opening scene -- a (fake?) folk tale, supposedly with a meaning and a lesson but providing neither really -- and the second rabbi's lesson of the goy's teeth -- ditto. who cares?. and that's the structure of the whole movie. more things happen. and then, this, and then, another thing. he has a dream. and then, the doctor calls. how does it end? it doesn't.

in memory, i can hear the second rabbi as the narrator of the whole thing; "his wife says, 'i have begged you'. his daughter asks about the bathroom. larry asks what's going on. nobody answers him." what happens? "who cares? oh, then there was a tornado"
― goole, Wednesday, December 2, 2009 11:36 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Anyway, this is one of their best (like, top 4) and I'd declare it my favorite along with Raising Arizona if there wasn't some slippage into actual cruelty, as opposed to a study of gracelessness under pressure. All the roles are astoundingly well cast. And yeah, it's the most aerious American film about Judaism I can recall since Mazursky's Enemies. Key ambiguous line: "I didn't do anything."

Also, I know the guy who plays the shtetl husband in the prologue (he also did the Yiddish translation). We're in the same vintage film-comedy film buff circle.
― Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Friday, October 16, 2009 2:03 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this movie is amazing. and speaks to my n american jewish upbringing with alarming specificity.
― banned, on the run (s1ocki), Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:04 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I just found out from my dad that Amy Landecker, who plays Mrs. Samsky, is my aunt Paula's stepdaughter and that, according to a Chicago Tribune interview, she modeled her performance after my aunt. o_O
― M. Grissom/DeShields (jaymc), Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:11 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"bound to be Lebowski fans' fave"

Thinking it had more to do with being at bar mitzvah's and wishing I was stoned, frankly.
― Alex in SF, Monday, October 19, 2009 1:53 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

for me it had to do with actually being stoned in synagogue haha
― banned, on the run (s1ocki), Monday, October 19, 2009 1:28 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

New Coen Bros, A Serious Man

SULLIVAN’S TRAVELS - i voted for this, think its really funnie, glad to see it place

love the Cohen bros - but just did not get A Serious Man.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7127/6875376856_dbd5c83ed2_z.jpg

I voted for A Serious Movie. brilliant movie, maybe their best imho, but probably because I can relate to it on a very personal level.

i guess it's a portent of the Coen Bros sweep to come that by even the most generous estimation their 9th funniest movie made the cut

lol A Serious MAN

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7021490993_b9abb9e13c_o.jpg

haha reminds me of the time bozelka called the dark knight "the dork knight" and it turned out to be a genuine typo

u know, i don't think that any coen bros movie made it onto my ballot. not even raising arizona or barton fink.

lol "the dork knight" ... it actually really fits (i loved the dark knight, btw).

RE Stills: As I I don't have access to most image/storage/social networking/file sharing type sites at work. So this is very impractical.

;_;

I tried to warn folks several times, but it is a bummer after the awesome action thread.

polyphonic, I can get you access to the results if you want to make screen grabs. email me at lolgbcw AT gmail, and I'll give you access. Our coordination will be imperfect. Just don't post screen shots before I release the results!

I'm still loling at DJP's GRID YOUR LIONS

That's her garter in the Lost in Paradise still, and the scene is pretty hubba hubba.

lol you mean Trouble in America

GUYS WHAT IF I JUST POSTED THIS AFTER EVERY ENTRY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWib8GbrIlA

needs more pooping

'A Serious Man' is one of my favourite Coen Bros movies and is very funny in parts, not least whenever Sy Ableman's on screen, but it's overall bleakness made me drop it from my ballot.

Didn't like A Serious Man at all. And I sometimes love the Coens, and voted for Fargo.

I still have yet to see a single post-The Man Who Wasn't There Coen Bros. film. I'll get around to it someday.

Dole clip needs a Jerry yell.

A Serious Man and No Country For Old Men are the keepers

Thanks so much, Austerity Pony, for doing this. <3<3<3 But one little teensy-tinesy request: COULD YOU BOLD THE TITLES AND RANKINGS PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE???. This thread is gonna get really long really fast, and without big pictures to denote the finishers, it's very hard to skim.

Yes, thank you Austerity! You da best! My request would be: can we get to the movies I actually voted for already? Sheeeeeeesh!

#88

DELICATESSEN

Marc Caro, Jean-Pierre Jeunet
1991
fRANCE
(261 pts, 8 votes)

About Delicatessen: in it's heart it's a silent film made in the sound era, right down to the main character being a mimic. I'm not saying it doesn't use sound and speech in clever ways, but all of it's memorable scenes certainly apply the silent-film aesthetic, and all for the best. With Delicatessen Jeunet and Caro do what Chaplin used to do in his glory days: take a simple story and a bunch of simple characters and sprinkle some movie magic on them.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, February 16, 2005 12:57 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The sex scene in Delicatessen is wonderfuly bizarre. I don't recall any music but plenty of sound effects.
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:46 AM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I watched Delicatessen and drank a bottle of rioja with my ex. I am now drinking port and verbally abusing goth teenagers.
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, December 31, 2003 7:49 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Films of Jean-Pierre Jeunet (and Marc Caro)

vastly overrated

SINGIN’ IN THE RAIN - didn't vote for this, but love it and am glad to see it make the cut, if barely
SWINGERS - hated this, such awful people, such an ugly movie
NETWORK - great movie, but not one i immediately think of a great comedy, not sure why
ARMY OF DARKNESS - by far my least favorite of raimi's ash trilogy
TEAM AMERICA: WORLD POLICE - not riotously funny, but it's got moments
SULLIVAN’S TRAVELS - hoo-ray, first of my votes to place, veronica lake is so great in this
MANHATTAN - great, but i saved my woody votes for annie hall and hannah & her sisters
LOST IN AMERICA - worthy, but not a personal favorite
THERE’S SOMETHING ABOUT MARY - about the same, a very funny movie, but not one i even considered voting for
TROUBLE IN PARADISE - n/s (the shame)
PINK FLAMINGOS - my #3, some days it would have been #1, love it so much
A SERIOUS MAN - n/s
DELICATESSEN - your face is overrated

SINGIN’ IN THE RAIN - voted, awesome, should be higher even though it's a musical
SWINGERS - saw this a thousand years ago, I loved it but I dunno that I'd vote for it
NETWORK - never seen it (hides)
ARMY OF DARKNESS - FUCK ALL YALL I LOVE THIS AND I VOTED FOR IT
TEAM AMERICA: WORLD POLICE - v funny, haven't seen in a while but kinda classic scattershot everyone gets made fun of South Park steez. and the point about getting puppets to act like bad actors is otm
SULLIVAN’S TRAVELS - never seen it
MANHATTAN - never seen it
LOST IN AMERICA - love Albert Brooks, didn't vote for this but support it wholeheartedly
THERE’S SOMETHING ABOUT MARY - meh
TROUBLE IN PARADISE - never seen it
PINK FLAMINGOS - Love! I didn't vote for any John Waters. I should have.
A SERIOUS MAN - love! but I agree that it's too bleak to be a comedy. but still v funny nonetheless.
DELICATESSEN - never seen it.

TEAM AMERICA: WORLD POLICE - i can understand this not having a huge broad appeal - but surprised this was so far down. i think i had this around #5 or so!

Ooh, I voted for Delicatessen too. I was unsure about how high to put it, as it's another where I prefer the dark elements to the light ones, but then I figured, sod it, it is totally a comedy, and voted it high.

#87

A NIGHT AT THE OPERA

Sam Wood
1935
United States
(263 pts, 10 votes, 1 first place)

as in...
Are there any transcriptions of the pieces he plays in the Marx Bros. movies? Is there anyone out there who could transcribe them for me? In fact, is there anyone who knows what these pieces are in the first place?

Especially the one in Night at the Opera, where he's playing for all the children on the cruise ship - it's one of the funniest and most joyful pieces i've ever heard. I'd really like to get a copy of it; I tried transcribing it once and by the time I got halfway through, I gave up.
― lemin (lemin), Tuesday, June 22, 2004 1:47 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think Morbs OTM, but my favourite single scene has to be the stateroom scene in Night of the Opera, such a beautifully constructed piece of comedy. The pre-MGM one benefit from having been fine tuned as stage shows; the timing is sharper.
― Ed, Monday, August 4, 2008 3:39 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A Night at the Opera. Groucho's tiny stateroom. An enormous sea-trunk.
And, if I'm not mistaken, 17 boiled eggs.
― Oilyrags, Monday, February 26, 2007 3:35 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(slim pickings, unless you want a thousand posts about queen - AP)

THE MARX BROTHERS: S/D

i loved being inundated w/ Marx Bros movies by my dad when i was a kid but they all kind of blend together for me now so i just voted for one token pick, and that wasn't it

haven't seen delicatessen -- which is strange b/c it came out when i was in college and was lol bored, poor and unemployed/underpaid when i was employed watching lots of movies -- but it's been in my Netflix Instant queue forever.

Here is my first screengrab for Singin'. If there are no objections I'll keep going:

http://i.imgur.com/yVuWx.jpg

(slim pickings, unless you want a thousand posts about queen - AP)

equally apropriate if a day at the races also makes the Top 100. i hope a night at the opera isn't the only Marx Bros one that does.

some dad sounds pretty rad

Looks good.

http://i.imgur.com/yVuWx.jpg

didn't vote for ANoP bcz Kitty & Allan are the Rogen & Hader of it:

The Marx Brothers sometimes said that this was their best film; it isn't, but it was their greatest hit. Two beautifully stuffed American targets-grand opera and high society-are left dismantled, flapping like scarecrows. (If you ever could listen to Il Trovatore with a straight face, you can never do so again.) Many writers have tried to analyze Marx Brothers wit, coming up with little monographs on "dissociated thinking," "disguised social protest," or "commedia dell'arte." Think about it too much and sanity, like a lettuce leaf, begins to wilt and curl at the edges. Marx Brothers keep turning corners you didn't know were there, and while you're trying to break down the content of lines like Groucho's "You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully?," you miss the series of non sequiturs that are piling up on top of it. George S. Kaufman and Morrie Ryskind did the script, from a story by James Kevin McGuinness, and with additional material by Al Boasberg; Sam Wood directed. The cast includes Groucho's perennial grand-dame inamorata, Margaret Dumont, the most stately of stooges (her smirking dowager is rather like a comic derivative of Edna Purviance in Chaplin's movies). There are also the vocalizing lovers, Kitty Carlisle and Allan Jones, whom Irving Thalberg, the producer and a master diagnostician of popular taste, put in for people (what people?) to "identify with," and the cruel villain, Walter Woolf King. (Incredible as it may seem, the banal romantic melodrama which intermittently wrecks the movie proved sound at the box office.) This comedy has its classic sequence: the stateroom scene, which is widely regarded as the funniest five minutes in screen history. It will sustain you through the dreadful duets.

- Pauline Kael

#86

A SHOT IN THE DARK

Blake Edwards
1964
United States
(269 pts, 9 votes)

While Sellers has good scenes in all of them, the only one I find consistently fine is A Shot in the Dark.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, March 11, 2005 8:42 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Shot" and the first Panther movie can still send me into paroxysms of laughter.
― Tub Girl Time Machine (Phil D.), Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:42 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Shot in the Dark is a great combination of source materials -- easily the best Clouseau film hands down. Also, love the opening sequence into the credits as well, perfect songs for both parts.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:46 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Pink Panther movies - C or D, s&d

1/14 so far (Army of Darkness)

my dad also quoted and described W.C. Fields movies a lot but never rented any to show us, which is prob a shame for my ballot

omg what if after all that this poll ends up boasting more movies from the 40s-60s than from the 70s-00s?!

I need to revisit the Marx Brothers - didn't like them at all back in the day, but I think I have warmed to their verbal technique, if not the physical elements.

A Shot In The Dark was #8 on my ballot. All part of life's rich pageant.

haven't seen anything of theirs post-'duck soup'

omg what if after all that this poll ends up boasting more movies from the 40s-60s than from the 70s-00s?!

Morbs will still find something to complain about?

THANKS POLYPHONIC

It was tough choosing the Pink Panther one for my ballot, went with Return... as it was the one we watched on VHS over and over as kids. Need to check out Shot in the Dark again.

i could really burnish my philistine/challops cred by saying that the Steve Martin Pink Panther movies crap on the Peter Sellers ones. or is that too strained even for ILX?

wd explain yr Mets 'jokes'

what if after all that this poll ends up boasting more movies from the 40s-60s than from the 70s-00s?!

never happen, but I would fuck myself with Bea Arthur's decaying dick.

Morbs will still find something to complain about (re 40s-60s comedies]?

of course he will ... no silent films and no Jerry Lewis (more likely than not)!

Strikes Again is the funny one iirc.

people who use the same Comedy Central roast catchphrase twice in the same day probably shouldn't put other people's "jokes" in scarequotes

"what if after all that this poll ends up boasting more movies from the 40s-60s than from the 70s-00s?!"

never happen, but I would fuck myself with Bea Arthur's decaying dick.

― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:59 AM (27 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ can i change my ballot?

left the marx brothers off my list entirely. not sure why, as i like both night at the opera and duck soup (have seen little else). list fatigue, probably. my ballots are always botched by inexcusable omissions and things chosen in panic. still, i'm not the world's biggest MB fan.

a shot in the dark, otoh, i LOVE TO DEATH! best pink panther movie, best peter sellars movie, best blake edwards movie, best mancini score, and one of the funniest things i've ever seen. so great in every way.

plus thanks, AP, for the BOLDING :)

and he's already dissed some voters' taste in Preston Sturges films ... stands to reason he'd do the same wr2 Howard Hawks or Billy Wilder.

(also, settle down Wilponzi ... i don't really think that the Steve Martin Pink Panther movies are better than the Peter Sellers ones.)

I Killed Some Dude With My Big Fucking Dick

I need to watch Night at the Opera again

#85

THE MUPPET MOVIE

James Frawley
1979
United States
(278 pts, 8 votes)

the muppet movie is one of the best movies, as in ever.
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:52 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Muppet Movie shooting in Downtown LA - ALL members of Dr. Teeth and The Electric Mayhem. I told them I loved their work.
― Patrice Leclerc Delacroix Poussin (admrl), Sunday, July 31, 2011 4:44 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if we were making the muppet movie, i'd like to nominate ned raggett to play the part of orson welles.
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:19 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

once subscribed to Muppet Magazine.
― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, November 2, 2006 3:20 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Muppet Show (and movies) -- Search and Destroy

i should rewatch them but i've always kinda felt like The Muppet Show was way funnier than any of the movies

there are still a lot of 70s-00s comedy heavy hitters that we haven't even come to yet ... and there are more 70s-00s stans here than 40s-60s stans (for better or worse). so i wouldn't hit the panic button yet if yer favorite Monty Python/SNL-spinoff hasn't appeared on the Top 100 list yet.

much muppet <3<3<3, didn't vote for the MM

(xposted just as the OG Muppet Movie was being uploaded)

if yer favorite Monty Python

augh totally forgot these guys existed, would have voted for life of brian

i should rewatch them but i've always kinda felt like The Muppet Show was way funnier than any of the movies

having watched a bunch of each recently I can say categorically that the best movies are way better than large majority of the episodes, which by and large are not super-joke heavy.

Yeah, I feel like it should've gotten a vote from me, but I just haven't seen it recently enough.

and we have Bob Hope's sole appearance, heaven forfend the sighting of Spies Like Us.

Python, Muppets both did their hall of fame work on TV.

yeah i can see that being true, perhaps i just like the whole format of the show more than the story-driven movies (xpost)

#84

JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS

Harry Elfont, Deborah Kaplan
2001
United States
(284 pts, 10 votes)

I thought it was pretty useless - I thought the jokes were bad, the songs were bad, the plot was predictable, the acting was OK in places but little more. From what I'd read about it I was expecting something wittier, maybe cleverer. I've got no deep reasons or justifications Sterling, sorry.
― Tom, Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:00 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Josie & The Pussycats is one of the greatest music films ever made, fullstop.
Used to have arguments with BF about this coz he refused to see it. I say, it is the Spinal Tap of the Boyband/girlgroup era. I don't care about the plot, the characters, the music, the comic etc. But the whole assasination of the music business as a whole is SO FUCKING CLOSE TO THE TRUTH that I don't think many people read it as the wicked parody that it truly is.

An inspired film. The first five minutes, the Backdoor Man or whatever it's called. "Du Jour means friendship!" Come ON!!! Sheer genius. They even have a freaking aural exciter in the studio! Sheesh! And the scene where they explain the existence of "Behind The Music" - that alone was worth the price of admission.

Classic. Utter, utter classic.
― speak of the devil, Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:00 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Classic: Name another movie about Rock Chicks.
Classic: The Soundtrack album is amazing. It's not punk. It's pure, pure power-pop. All punk is powerchords; Not all powerchords are punk.

Classic: The fact that Kay Hanley sings vocals is the worst kept secret in movie history.

Dud: Underdevloped love story. I always assumed You Don't See Me was gonna be used only about Josie and Alan M... It would have been better if it was.

Dud: The Evian ad in the aquarium scene. Nuff said.

Classic: Rachael Leigh Cook and her huge, dark, bottomless eyes. Talk about jerkin'...
― JM, Saturday, August 25, 2001 7:00 PM (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i hated it but i laughed
― simon trife (simon_tr), Saturday, September 14, 2002 1:52 AM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Josie and the Pussycats: Classic or Dud

Just how fucking classic is Josie and The Pussycats?

Agree that Python TV eps > Python movies

xpost oh wau

what the hell

ok now it's time to hit the panic/morbz button

wtf

wondering if this means the Looney Tunes movie is gonna place

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Classic: Rachael Leigh Cook and her huge, dark, bottomless eyes. Talk about jerkin'...
― JM, Saturday, August 25, 2001 7:00 PM (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol talk about people voting w/ their dicks and not their brains or even their funny bones

Muppet Movie way way too low - not only full of jokes, but also full of great songs, including:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yaP_kc3y9w

xxxpost maybe as a general proposition, but "Holy Grail" is GOAT territory by any objective measure

rad songs, great performances, corny and funny and sweet and perfect fuiud

hahahahahahahahaha @ Josie, what the hell

Really, people? Really?

YESSSSSSSSSSS

it's a pretty good satire. like the Network of the TRL era /trollin

Classic: Name another movie about Rock Chicks.

Ladies and Gentlemen, The Fabulous Stains, which has the benefit of being funnier than Josie and the Pussycats.

xxp did not even see lamp's post when i made that one

Hell, that Runaways movie was funnier, albeit unintentionally.

Yay, voted for this with the expectation that I'd be the only one. Stoked to see it so high.

have never heard/read 1 word abt that josie movie tbh

jesus, the average score for whomever voted for josie was 29.4 (i.e., 21st on their list of 50 films). this isn't a matter of lot of people thinking that the movie was kinda LOL and the votes adding up ... this is ten people with really shit taste.

Things looking up for WHAS imo.

I mean, I enjoyed Josie but it never even crossed my mind to vote for it

I think three of mine have placed so far! Woo.

yeah the songs in the MM are str8 classic - loaded with clever turns of phrase, catchy, just the right amount of sentiment + silliness

there's good stuff in the episodes, particularly when they get meta about the whole show-within-a-show premise but a lot of the musical bits are very one-note.

xp

oh ilx

and there are a LOT of musical bits

xp

Josie haters can catch fire, obviously - though now 3 of my top 10 have appeared and we're not even 20% in.

I wish they'd have made a Jem movie.

oh man i voted for hella teenage girl movies btw and i hope at least four or five more place, 'josie' was actually the v last movie that made onto my ballot

lol @ some dude 'network' is suck jagoff trash its not even close to as funny or as smart as 'josie' lets be real

Classic: Name another movie about Rock Chicks.

that hilariously awesome/terrible Gina Gershon Joan Jett-homage movie

i weep for ILX

josie is definitely funnier than network, anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-duhbcVwKoA

coulda sworn there was a video, guess not

I'm not sure where the jokes are in Network tbh

the joke is on the feebs who thought it was 'great satire'

this is your poll

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/1041740_o.gif

this is your poll on ilx

This piece made me check out J&TP http://www.avclub.com/articles/totally-jerking-case-file-147-josie-and-the-pussyc,33511/ and is spot on in it's assessment.

it's its placement right above The Muppet Movie that stings in particular

re josie: wtf ilx?

josie is definitely funnier than network, anyway.

otmfm

hey lamp and anyone else who was crying about juvenile appreciation of mad men on other thread but voted for josie here:
fuck u.

josie and the pussycats is p great! funny, charming, surprisingly pointed. the first genuine surprise on the list, and i'm glad to see it place.

didn't vote for it, but ty to those who did

yeah if the poll were just going to confirm everybody's suspicions about the poll results, why have a poll

figure 10 things i hate about you is a lock now

JatP is a charming movie, not overwhelmingly funny and definitely a relic of its time. Assuming most of its voters were about 13 when it came out.

i didn't vote for josie but i don't know why it would cause a lot of bile and Army Of Darkness wouldn't other than a fear of cooties

Oh man I really pulled your leg...

AP will you list rare entries in the post mortem or just make the google spreadsheet public or w/e

i'd be more critical of the hamhandedness of things like josie's wall-to-wall corporate logos (my favorite is the manicurist in the stormtrooperish america online uniform) if there were a single other movie that made that joke. i mean maybe there is. but no 14-year-olds saw it so it didn't do any good.

fwiw i didnt call 'mad men' juvenile just artless and vacant

...WITH MY LAST POST BECAUSE JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS IS FOR REAL PSYCH

I'm not very good at practical jokes ;_;

fwiw u have terrible taste in things so who cares what you think about mad men?

what next, are the josie voters gonna bumrush the 4 greatest tv shows thread and talk up super milk chan?!?

tbf that thread isn't about those tv shows anymore

it's about how whiney is theodor adorno or smth

xpost It was never really about those shows, tbh.

it's about how whiney is theodor adorno

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_QO90RVhXD2A/SL6LHxEGFdI/AAAAAAAABEU/O8sC2rnjDcI/s400/adorno.jpg

lol it's definitely not about how whiney is adorno btw

AP will you list rare entries in the post mortem or just make the google spreadsheet public or w/e

― Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:28 PM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

When the top 100 are all done, I will list all movies 101-663 with points & # of votes.

i'd be more critical of the hamhandedness of things like josie's wall-to-wall corporate logos (my favorite is the manicurist in the stormtrooperish america online uniform) if there were a single other movie that made that joke.

Wayne's World managed to make the same joke, better, in like 30 seconds.

Which is why that one will be going top 50 for sure.

Um Josie? Really? I didn't even know that was something anyone liked let alone enough people for it to place in this poll. So fucking weird.

10 Things - I love that movie - it's a trashy guilty pleasure but it didn't make my ballot cause it's not that funny. Somewhat funny and adorable yes but not funny enough to place.

rad songs, great performances, corny and funny and sweet and perfect fuiud

― Lamp

Yeah, Alan Rickman/Parker Posey are the perfect cartoon villains, the parodic product placement (Evian aquarium etc) was great, the sacrificial boyband at the start (Du'Jour!) were note-perfect, and I wanted an entry with Seth Green. I'm the only person in the world who thinks/thought the way some of this is shot is like the Cremaster films, heh.

Oh wow, 1xbillion xposts.

fwiw u have terrible taste in things so who cares what you think about mad men?

lol @ 'taste' get over yrself u yuppie pseud

cant wait for ilxs latent misogyny to really kick into hi gear when my first place vote for 'the princess diaries' propels it into the top 50

10 Things is just a damn good movie, no trashy guilt to it.

one of the only '90s teen comedies where the central relationship was affecting

Did we do a teen movie ballot poll way back in the day?

lol @ "latent"

I laughed a lot at Princess Diaries 2. Of course, I was laughing at how much it made me hate women.

aw lamp trying to conflate ppl's dislike of your shallow opinions with misogyny. i'm just shocked that i spent this morning arguing with you about the value of something like mad men when really you just wanted to stump for the lowest common denominator mass marketed bullshit available. if only i had known!

You did NOT vote for the princess diaries as your #1 movie. LAMP!

Regretting not having had a write-in vote for Enchanted, now.

also voted for 10 things

I voted Josie, haterz can suck it, IT HAS ALAN CUMMING AND PARKER POSEY and DUJOUR

10 Things is just a damn good movie, no trashy guilt to it.

yeah its p much the second best shakes adaptation on my list but i dont talk 2 much about it cuz i think itll place later in the poll

Lamp often has good taste which is why this is so surprising to me. Why would anyone over the age of 12 even watch The Princess Diaries?!

what next, are the josie voters gonna bumrush the 4 greatest tv shows thread and talk up super milk chan?!?

omg I had hoped everyone had forgotten about that show; wife and I now say "JUST KIDDING" to each other in that high chirpy manner as a result of PTSD

also lol @ not voting for Josie being an indicator of misogyny, this thread is delivering hardcore

etc did you confuse Rickman with Cumming ?!

I hate alan cumming and parker hasn't been good in years.

Why would anyone over the age of 12 even watch The Princess Diaries?!

I watched it because it was on TV and I was bored. It was cute.

If I'd had my head on straight during nominations, I would've remember to nominate Dick and then the teenage girl cultural satire entry could've at least been resonant and lol-worthy.

And I used to LOVE P Posey so it saddens me to say that quite a bit.

is princess diaries the one with anne hathaway or julia stiles? i've seen both of those acclaimed film franchises (on tv natch)

anne hathaway

AH.

there's a hawt lesbo scene b/w Anne and Julie.

enh i consciously voted for a lot of movies w/female leads and strong female characters because i felt like they would need the support considering. i mean not voting for 'josie' is w/e it not like its an obv classic like 'clueless' or 'dick' but i think the reaction to it placing is p telling

lol i actually watched dick last night ... the opening and the ending scenes were the funniest parts of that movie.

I hate alan cumming and parker hasn't been good in years.

― wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 12:39 (46 seconds ago) Bookmark

but i think the reaction to it placing is p telling

you're an idiot.

Alan Cumming is <3

mordy, do you have a problem with lamp or something? I get the feeling you have a problem with him.

josie rulez, haters drool

always nice to see other ppl disliking alan cumming

i mean no1 seemed to bat an eye at 'swingers' so its hardly like the bar is all that high here

(what's the next movie in the TOp 100, AP?)

the sweetest thing

etc did you confuse Rickman with Cumming ?!

― kinder

Yeah, guilty. My brain autocompletes when it comes to sinister UK types called Alan.

Pretty sure the Josie handwringing wouldn't be happening with, IDK, American Pie or w/e.

nothing personal but he is pretty explicitly in this thread trying to tie criticisms of his vote for Josie to ilx ongoing misogyny, going as far as defending the vote as being an attempt to preempt sexist ilx's non-female lead friendly voting policies. also, i screamed about swingers too so idk selective memory going on here

#83

PRINCESS BRIDE

Rob Reiner
1987
United States
(285 pts, 13 votes)

i find the male lead utterly repugnant
and fred savage too
― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:32 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my point is that it's an utterly innoffensive film which earns bonus points for being witty and occasionally very touching ("hello! my name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die" "Stop saying that!"). I like to be surprised by a film which makes no claim to be great Art but yet which moves me.
― Matt (Matt), Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:41 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's darling!
― Maria (Maria), Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:50 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I once got in a heated argument with some middle-aged guy over whether or not the movie would be better without the Peter Falk/Fred Savage storybook framing device.
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, August 3, 2004 12:17 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I still love the movie, but now that I'm grown the score kinda bugs the fuck out of me. Those corny ass synthesized horn stabs, urg.
I wanna see a remake with lens flare and Eno score.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, August 3, 2004 12:21 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Love it. "Aaaaaaaasssssss yooooooooouuuu wiiiiiiiiisssssshhhh...."
Of course, I first saw it with a guy I was pretty well in love with. I don't think I quite realized that we both were digging on Cary Elwes, though.
― Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Saturday, July 29, 2006 1:53 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Talk about how great the Princess Bride is

I hate Swingers, but half expected it to show up anyway so why bother y'know. Josie was a surprise.

There's Something About Mary is about ten million times dumber and less funny than Josie, fwiw

Swingers is the worst.

― Mordy, Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:35 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And I fucking hate Vince Vaughn. I have never laughed at him. His whole shtick seems to be the normal guy alongside funnier people. Kinda a pre-Bradley Cooper guy.

― Mordy, Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:36 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

xxxp
Ha ha, serendipity.

love Princess Bride, my #10

re that Bowie gif: who voted for The Linguini Incident?

this thread needs less "oh come on, seriously" and a lot more "this is underappreciated, wish I'd voted for it, too"

I've not seen Swingers, but I strongly suspect it sucks more than Josie. On the other hand, I *have* seen Josie, and it sucks. Also, voting for crap just because it's got girls in it is pretty insulting, dude.

the whole fred savage thing doesn't work at all in the film, but works much better in the book

Sorry Kinder. ;_; I just can't handle PP's one note bitch character (that she plays in almost every movie) anymore. I haven't seen Cumming in a lot of things so I might be wrong about him but idk.

If I'd voted, this would've been in my top 3. At one time, it might've been my #1.

i mean no1 seemed to bat an eye at 'swingers' so its hardly like the bar is all that high here

would take a bat to everyone who voted for this movie, hate it so much

Also MH, wtf are you talking about. Are you insane?! "oh come on, seriously" is the best part of this sort of thing.

Oh, and Alan Cumming is awful. I bet all the people who rate him on this thread are Americans. Gah.

Swingers is terrible except for Vince Vaughn (and Sue, maybe, because Sue is funny in the scene with the gun). Vaughn completely elevates that movie to watchable.

lol Kinder is English.

Cumming isn't bad in Goldeneye.

I've not seen Swingers, but I strongly suspect it sucks more than Josie. On the other hand, I *have* seen Josie, and it sucks. Also, voting for crap just because it's got girls in it is pretty insulting, dude.

― emil.y, Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:47 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

presuming that on the part of any Josie voter is pretty insulting! i didn't vote for it but imo its merits as comedy are pretty self evident

Yeah, it seems Alan Cumming is far more likeable in the US. Who knows why.

princess bride (in both media) one of those things that has so indelibly marked itself upon me that i probably underrate it just bc i can't really see how much of an impact it has had. explaining wet to fish type of thing. i think i read the book a hundred or so times in junior high. just over and over and over again (until one day i picked it up and opened it up to read and a cockroach crawled out from between the pages and i was so grossed out that i think i never picked it up again. it was about time to read something new anyway.)

I wasn't presuming that on the part of any Josie voter. I was reading it directly from one of Lamp's posts.

xxpost

There's Something About Mary is about ten million times dumber and less funny than Josie, fwiw

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:46 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's dumb but hilarious dumb. I registered surprise at Josie mostly because I honestly had no idea that was a movie anyone liked at all. If I see it on TV I'll give it a shot now that ppl seem to think otherwise. It might rule for all I know.

presuming that on the part of any Josie voter is pretty insulting!

Lamp explicitly said he voted for it (and others) because they featured women!

tbh i can't tell to what degree lamp is exaggerating his opinion to fuck w/ people itt

Alan Cumming's best comedy performance is in Eyes Wide Shut.

There's Something About Mary really is ten million times dumber and less funny than Josie. I fucking hate that film. Seriously, I adore Jonathan Richman and it makes me SO SAD that he took part in that crapfest.

Josie is pretty funny ENBB, I would have actually pegged it as a movie you'd already seen!

Alan Cumming was in EWS? I don't remember that at all but I haven't seen it since it first came out. Really? He was?

ive never seen 'the princess bride' but i keep meaning to

I wasn't presuming that on the part of any Josie voter. I was reading it directly from one of Lamp's posts.

i only voted for movies i genuinely love, one of which is 'josie'. but i also didnt vote for v many movies and i did prioritize voting for 'girl' movies because i think theyre often really underserved in these type of discussions

Didn't watch The princess Diaries because I saw the second one and figured I was all caught up.

LOVE the boots randolph at the start of the thread!!

Also, voting for crap just because it's got girls in it is pretty insulting, dude.

― emil.y, Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:47 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this

Alan Cumming was in EWS? I don't remember that at all but I haven't seen it since it first came out. Really? He was?

he played Leelee Sobieski

now i'll go back and see what happened while i wasn't here

#82

TOOTSIE

Sydney Pollack
1982
United States
(287 pts, 11 votes)

After a hundred viewings over the years, its pleasures have not dimmed. Dustin Hoffman's best performance. Bill Murray's best cameo ("Don't play hard to get"). Jessica Lange, never more luminous, starring in her first and only comedy for many, many years. A film that works as a touching same-sex love story even without the conceit.
The last great studio comedy?
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, August 9, 2005 5:36 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I remember this being the first movie that wasn't a Disney cartoon (helllooo The Fox & the Hound) to affect me on an emotional level.
I also remember watching AFI's greatest 100 some 17-odd years later and Dustin Hoffman breaking down during the interview, lamenting the treatment of "conventionally unattractive" women in modern society. i won't lie... that shit got to me, dude.
― Will (will), Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:08 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Michael Dorsey: Are you saying that nobody in New York will work with me?
George Fields: No, no, that's too limited... nobody in Hollywood wants to work with you either. I can't even send you up for a commercial. You played a *tomato* for 30 seconds - they went a half a day over schedule because you wouldn't sit down.
Michael Dorsey: Yes - it wasn't logical.
George Fields: YOU WERE A TOMATO. A tomato doesn't have logic. A tomato can't move.
Michael Dorsey: That's what I said. So if he can't move, how's he gonna sit down, George? I was a stand-up tomato: a juicy, sexy, beefsteak tomato. Nobody does vegetables like me. I did an evening of vegetables off-Broadway. I did the best tomato, the best cucumber... I did an endive salad that knocked the critics on their ass.
― kenan, Wednesday, August 8, 2007 11:27 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's pretty amazing how concentrated & fast moving this is compared to what it would be like if it were made now. i have to say i like the film and i find it funny but the fact it's so distilled removes some of the verisimilitude that would help you buy into the situation. in no way am i wishing the film were an hour longer (as it would be now) but it needs a little more imo, especially in the initial stages.
― jed_, Wednesday, June 16, 2010 6:11 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Tootsie: Classic or Dud?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuNUaD8Ev_I

xp lol Dan

Mordy, you were swinging for him well before he was talking about sexism, unless "fuck u" is sweet talk?

x-post to DJP - I had no idea! Like I said, I'll check it out.

also LOL

EM - I love JR too.

Actually, after calling it crap and sucky, I'm now coming around to the idea that Josie really isn't that bad in comparison to some stuff that's more well-regarded. It just doesn't belong anywhere near this list. RARGH SMASH.

But Lamp, I can't remember who it was who was talking about Rock Chicks being represented in film, but if it was you, check out Phil D's recommendation of the Fabulous Stains. It's smart, funny (though not a comedy), and the music is actually great.

well, we all knew that this moment would come ... when all hell would break loose over some movie or other that lots of folks would be all loudly WTF?!? over. kinda shocked that it was josie, which TBH i haven't even given a 2nd thought to after its theater run until it appeared in the Top 100.

also, lol @ Morbz being silent through all of this. if he (or anyone else) really wanted to shit on this poll, voting for something like josey would be one way to do just that.

XPs Alan Cumming was in a charming heartwarming made-for-TV Christmas movie called Bernard & the Genie that I watched every christmas as a kid and I've been unable to hate on him ever since.
Josie has some shitty jokes mainly centered around the lead 3 ladies but the charm is in the peripheral characters iirc.

tootsie is a women's film about issues that are woman issues.

hey hey hey to the Josie votas! I be among yez!

xxxxp well, a little bit sweet talk. i wasn't that peeved, but i did think it was ridiculous that he was stumping for josie after spending a morning dismissing all kinds of other things and other people's opinions + tastes.

and he insulted MAD MEN!!!

Alan Cumming was in EWS? I don't remember that at all but I haven't seen it since it first came out. Really? He was?

he played Leelee Sobieski

― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:53 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol now i'm thinking of Nicolas Cage giving Alan Cumming a roundhouse kick to the face a la the wicker man.

Princess Bride is one of those movies where my "This is awesome but its awesomeness is much more than its funniness (though it's very funny)" switch flipped on. I mean I voted for it, but further down, whereas it'd probably be a top-five film over all films on a good day.

"your middlebrow unsophisticated for vapid entertainment like mad men troubles me deeply.
"josie and the pussycats on the other hand is pretty sweet."

missing an 'appreciation'* there

xxxp if you do watch The Fabulous Stains shut it off about 5 secs before the credits roll.

josie is the inception of the comedy 100, right?

mad mordy

E, I was just wanting a slightly different balance

continue the alan cumming theatrics, everyone

everyone needs a little cumming in their lives

well, let's hold off on that until we see if inception places xxp

josie is the inception of the comedy 100, right?

― humba (NZA), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:00 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in that both are awesome, yes

How can an ILX regular react with shock to someone being put off by Mad Men's White Elephantness but repping for Josie?

Maybe less true now than years past, but that's one of the defining qualities of ILX culture talk IMO.

PRINCESS BRIDE - great! didn't vote for it
TOOTSIE - great! totally voted for it

alan cumming can be funny. i am an american.

There's Something About Mary is about ten million times dumber and less funny than Josie, fwiw

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:46 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kind of a t-bomb, but TSAM is pretty funny

wtf was wrong w/ inception, btw?

also, i like princess bride well enough but i don't think of it as a comedy film.

anyway if all it took was repping for 'josie & the pussycats' on an ilx comedy films thread to erase a year or so of getting zinged for being a pretentious limited run cassette-listening chillwave-loving snob then i welcome my image as a lcd-praising crap-luvin idiot

tootsie is another one of those movies i always mean to watch but seem kinda boring

Princess Bride is one of those movies where my "This is awesome but its awesomeness is much more than its funniness (though it's very funny)" switch flipped on.

this happened a lot for me

lol chillwave

and mordy burning with otmism's flames re: vince vaughan and swingers

the action poll included a prank that made people think Inception placed very highly and a lot of gnashing of teeth ensued

i'm down w/ shitting on mad men and i can see why someone who doesn't like mad men would like josie. i'm still WTF at voting for josie, though.

Tootsie is good-to-great, altho I don't really find it laugh out loud funny or anything. it's kind of more subtle.

Tootsie is this low?!

anyway if all it took was repping for 'josie & the pussycats' on an ilx comedy films thread to erase a year or so of getting zinged for being a pretentious limited run cassette-listening chillwave-loving snob then i welcome my image as a lcd-praising crap-luvin idiot

uh, hate to break it to u, but liking josie & the pussycats is exactly what a "pretentious limited run cassette-listening chillwave-loving snob then i welcome my image as a lcd-praising crap-luvin idiot" would do

and the music is actually great

Also of course curious about how much of this (not just emil.y of course) is "This music from when I was 18 is categorically better than the music from when you were 18!". I mean, the music is JatP is great at what it is!

also fill in general old-man-of-ILX grumbling about seeing "lowest common denominator mass marketed bullshit" and 'you're only liking that to make a statement'-type views rearing their heads again.

Wait so you're all just fucking with me re Josie, aren't you. AREN'T YOU!?

;)

except then i welcome my image as a lcd-praising crap-luvin idiot

xxp

derp

lol @ lamp thinking that the knock on chillwave is that it's elitist

#81

TRADING PLACES

John Landis
1983
United States
(290 pts, 9 votes, 1 first place)

Trading Places totally blows like every other wall street movie out of the water btw
― TOMBOT, Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:27 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

All Scandinavian women sound just like Jamie Lee Curtis in Trading Places.
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Wednesday, December 3, 2003 8:23 AM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fwiw, I have an orgasm every time I watch Trading Places. better, Aaron?
― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:28 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I still don't know what the fuck was going on in the last 20 minutes of Trading Places.
― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Friday, December 2, 2005 2:55 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Eddie Murphy in the 80s

I was gonna say The Muppet Movie placed too low, but I placed it a little lower on my own ballot because I like it more as a Movie (like maybe my second or third favorite film of all-time) than as a Comedy Movie, if that makes sense. So I'm just happy it showed up at all.

Python, Muppets both did their hall of fame work on TV.

I'd agree with the Python assertion, but the first two Muppet movies were definitely on par with/better than the show. Easily among the most focused and worthwhile TV-to-film translations ever.

http://craig.purplestateofmind.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/gran-torino2.jpg

Trading Places is pretty good, kinda lacking in the jokes department tho

thanks to trading places i literally am incapable of saying "happy new year!" on nye

Tootsie is this low?!

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:05 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Chin up. There are almost 600 movies below it!

trading places is great

I had Trading Places at #11

lol @ lamp thinking that the knock on chillwave is that it's elitist

haha the chillwave part was more for general accuracy, im really talkin about the whiney-specific 'lol you like jana winderen' zings

oh trading places - thats a p sweet movie

Also of course curious about how much of this (not just emil.y of course) is "This music from when I was 18 is categorically better than the music from when you were 18!".

HOW OLD DO YOU THINK I AM?????

trading places is funny enough ... the LOLs come not some from the jokes but the entire reversal-of-fortune that blows up in the face of the smug, rich racist assholes ... but it also has a special place in my heart b/c it introduced the world outside of Philadelphia to the greatness of the Clothespin statue:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-U1aDc842NIY/TZKFX2zSTwI/AAAAAAAAABY/0mtEeAuOkaA/s1600/cleas-oldenburg-clothespin-1976.jpg

other movies that feature women

Coyote Ugly
Spice World
Steel Magnolias
Shirley Valentine
Divine Secrets of the Ya Ya Sisterhood

Lamp, tell me now. Tell it to me straight. Did you or did you not vote for any of these movies. If yes: pistols at dawn.

oh man my wife loves Steel Magnolias so much

my favorite thing about the Josie sdtk is that it led to Babyface playing mandolin on a Fall Out Boy hit

trading places is aok w me. would be worth it just for bellamy & ameche. smug rich assholes themselves are v nearly the best part.

(trading places just barely missed my making my ballot)

Trading Places rules!! Also Princes Bride & Tootsie <3 <3 and way too low.

I am not complaining about Josie and the Pussycats bc women. I am complaining about Josie and the Pussycats bc that movie took a steaming dump on my favorite cartoon and I have not forgiven it.

WAY TO BRING UP HURT FEELINGS ILX.

but yay for other awesome movies.

I'm really cross now, btw. I'M NOT THAT OLD. And also, PEOPLE CAN LIKE STUFF FROM ERAS THEY DIDN'T LIVE IN.

(I love Steel Magnolias btw) but still.

Moreso that Josie, Trading Places' standing in ILX is o_0 to me.

as far as WACKY IRREVERENT MOVIE UPDATES OF OLD TV SHOWS go, Josie is probably behind Addams Family and one or two others but well ahead of Charlie's Angels, Bewitched, Beverly Hillbillies, prob 21 Jump Street, etc.

sorry if this has been discussed but AP, are you doing 20 results per day or similar?

I'm kind of a sucker for movies of old TV shows that go a bit WTF. Like the Brady Bunch movies! How did I forget them these past few weeks :(

I'm really cross now, btw. I'M NOT THAT OLD.

― emil.y, Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:16 PM (18 seconds ago)

jeez, if you were 19 when J&TPC came out, you'd only be 29 now. imagine that's not so terribly old relative to the average age of poll voters/posters itt. how's we suppose to know your age, anyway?

oh man my wife loves Steel Magnolias so much

― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 4:14 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

SM is amazing in a campy ott way and I love it a lot. Of course this may have something to do with the fact that I was Shelby in my HS's production of it and got to seize and die on stage while looking fabulous in a long red wig. Or just because it's ridiculous and awesome. Would not place it on any poll except for maybe camp melodrama poll.

'Not voting for movies featuring strong women = misogynist' is such an utterly, utterly fucking idiotic position that it really isn't worth responding to, but here I am responding to it anyway. There is zero difference in my head between that position and right wing criticism of anyone who's criticized Sarah Palin or Michele Bachmann.

It might be somewhere in the 40s on my gay movies that make morbs feel all hate crimey ballot.

#79 (TIE)

VACATION
AKA National Lampoon’s Vacation

John Hughes
1983
United States
(292 pts, 11 votes)

The scene where Clark discovers that he unknowingly dragged a dog to its death profoundly warped my fragile young mind, and for that, I am grateful. Seriously, I remember that scene absolutely blowing my mind - the cop holding the collar, Clark trying his best to act sad... And the setup was sooo inconspicuously done.
― Ernest P. (ernestp), Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:04 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I only watched the first one (many times) and parts of the second. The first DID make me almost wet myself. Chevy was never better which, these days, isn't saying much, I'll admit. The stuff with their visit to his in-laws, tying the dead aunt on top of the car and leaving her body in a chair in front of a relatives house with a note is classic stuff!
I also love the scene where he freaks and begins maniacally explaining that their trip to Wally World is no long a vacation but a quest.....a quest for fun.....and he suggests something to the effect that they're all going to have so much fucking fun that they won't be able to stand it.....as a parent, I love the sense of losing control without, of course, any real damage done. (That harmless losing control IS negated when he forces entry into the park by gunpoint)...

Over the top and funny as hell!
― ed dill (eddill), Sunday, November 16, 2003 3:20 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

had no idea Romney was such a devotee of "National Lampoon's Vacation"
― CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Tuesday, August 9, 2011 1:11 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

National Lampoons "Vacation" movies, classic or dud?

as far as WACKY IRREVERENT MOVIE UPDATES OF OLD TV SHOWS go, Josie is probably behind Addams Family and one or two others but well ahead of Charlie's Angels, Bewitched, Beverly Hillbillies, prob 21 Jump Street, etc.

that's one reason i didn't think much of josie -- the "joke" had been done before and done better!

Haha sorry, how about "The film whose DVD was released when I was 18"? (probably overcorrecting there!)

the LOLs come not some from the jokes but the entire reversal-of-fortune that blows up in the face of the smug, rich racist assholes

exactly. it's a funny movie that's more than the sum of its parts - like, there are not any particular scenes/gags in it that are especially funny, it's the set-up as a whole.

I follow the same pattern with the Vacation movies as I do with the Muppet movies. I like the 2nd and 3rd significantly better than the first, but all of the first three are masterpieces compared to the crap that followed.

While it's my least favorite after Vegas (controversial I know)79 seems to high for Vacation.

Vacation's good. didn't vote for it.

Eric otm. Correct Vacation order is

Euro*
Christmas
OG

*Euro and Christmas sorta interchangeable for 1 + 2 but Euro was my favorite movie as a kid so it holds a special place in my heart.

The rest don't matter.

jeez, if you were 19 when J&TPC came out, you'd only be 29 now. imagine that's not so terribly old relative to the average age of poll voters/posters itt. how's we suppose to know your age, anyway?

― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:21 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The post was not suggesting I was 18 when JatP came out, it was suggesting I was 18 when the Fabulous Stains came out.

the 'joke' of irreverent adaptation is not nearly as central to Josie as it is to Brady Bunch, Starsky & Hutch, etc. though.

i voted for European Vacation because i've probably seen it on TV more than any other movie in my entire life whereas i've scarcely encountered the first Vacation remotely as often.

I follow the same pattern with the Vacation movies as I do with the Muppet movies. I like the 2nd and 3rd significantly better than the first

Really? I'm mystified that anyone would rate The Muppets Take Manhattan over The Muppet Movie. It's pretty rote and perfunctory.

Euro over Vacation?

no way

The rest don't matter.

a slight on the house of van wilder

haha actually i would've thought that vacation would've placed BETTER b/c of its ubiquity amongst us 1980s kids.

European Vacation is a steaming pile of dogshit but OG and Christmas are hilarious

Josie: Malcolm McLaren described the Great Rock and Roll swindle as "the film that incriminates itself. Actually, Josie is much more that.

Euro is kind of the ultimate "you had to have grown up with it" movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hPZFUz0YOY