"truth bomb"

Stop it, now.

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truth bombs

I was a victim of a truth bombing... it's not a laughing matter.

You just gave us a proper fact strafing there, Morbs.

You can't handle the truth bomb?

how amazing, I was just going to cite some dude as the kind of dunce who thinks "truth bomb" replaces an argument.

how amazing, you started this thread because of a post i made on another thread. HOW AMAZING.

nobody ever accuses anybody of detonating a lie bomb, what the fuck is that all about

Dr Morbius, definitively known on ILX for not masking his well-enunciated arguments behind snippy asides

"We begin truth bombing in five minutes."

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is 'truth bombs are stupid' the ultimate truth bomb?

^ or this this

is

no

is that a truth bomb

the thing is morbs is right insofar as "truth bomb" is sort of stealth snark - you post "otm" if you're just co-signing, but "truth bomb" if you're saying to somebody else on the thread "your bullshit has just been heavily dispersed by a TRUTH BOMB" - rhetorically I think "truth bomb" shares space w/"owned"

underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have truth bombed

I prefer factoid bullets myself, keeps the collateral damage to a minimum.

underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have PWNED

jesus aero sorry i didn't say "otm" i didn't realize there was such an insidious subtext

I hate "owned" too (when did "pwned" hit the garbage can?), and also "all time" for "at least since I was in 8th grade"

owned/pwned is inarguably terrible yeah

that's just what a n00b would say

a n00b who just got PWNED

crüt, I don't pretend to mount arguments in this crazy-making funhouse. I am was here to educate.

owned/pwned is inarguably terrible yeah

but you agree w/me that that's essentially what "truth bomb" is - it's "otm" to the poster and "owned!" to whoever he's arguing with half the time. elegant little move imo but I think it's rarely used just as an "otm"

I hate "owned" too (when did "pwned" hit the garbage can?), and also "all time" for "at least since I was in 8th grade"

how to you feel about "yoga flame" tho

I welcome the use of "truth bomb", if only because I hear Tom Jones singing every time it's used.

crüt, I don't pretend to mount arguments in this crazy-making funhouse. I am was here to educate.

― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Monday, April 2, 2012 7:26 AM (4 minutes ago)

I'm imagining this over the semi-final panel in Jack Chick tract.

now you're just making stuff up. xxp

I don't think 'truth bomb' is only used in the context of an argument

i say it when i poop

aero i was talking about the phrase "pwned" being terrible, not some completely different term that you equated with it.

lol some dude's really in a "get mad" mood this a.m. huh

just talking about how the term ~functions,~ be chill why don'tcha

nah i wasn't being testy, sorry if it came off that way

my bad sorry for misreading tone - it really does seem to me like "truth bomb" is going for extra mileage over "otm" & "cosign" - idk to me this is actually pretty interesting, probably not to other ppl tho lol

for me it was not just "otm" but "that's a novel and perceptive way of putting it"

well 'truth bomb' implies that there's something pretty substantial being said, you can otm 'carrots are better than tomatoes' but you can't truth bomb it

btw Morbs "yoga flame" is generally used in concert w/"for all time" it means that something is a badass move & will remain a badass move, like the "yoga flame" special move by Dhalsim in the game Street Fighter II. the time I spent learning this could have been spent familiarizing myself with great Russian novels, but it didn't work out that way.

well 'truth bomb' implies that there's something pretty substantial being said, you can otm 'carrots are better than tomatoes' but you can't truth bomb it

lol I think the food threads would beg to differ w/you on this!!

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RUTH BOMB

yes, comparing the most masterful works of the American comedic cinema, whose Golden Age was clearly 1915-50, to classic rock is "pretty substantial"

i was crestfallen when someone beat me to using "truth bomber ginsburg" as a display name

I feel like there is an x-y axis with 'correctness' and 'audacity' - something correct but not audacious is 'otm', something audacious but not nec. correct is 'challops' and something both correct and audacious is a truth bomb

morbs this weird thing of darting into the comedy poll thread, making your big dramatic gesture of the day and then saying "ta" and responding to everything else in that thread by starting or reviving other threads is so so goofy even for you

tbh i am genuinely sorry for saying "truth bomb" just because i was kind of sick of the phrase any way and especially debating its meaning, so this is what i get for saying it i guess

I feel like there is an x-y axis with 'correctness' and 'audacity' - something correct but not audacious is 'otm', something audacious but not nec. correct is 'challops' and something both correct and audacious is a truth bomb

I really love this post a lot I have to say

i feel like truth bomb was originally meant to describe something startling and surprising in its insight or accuracy, but now, esp on the truth bomb thread, it just means 'otm' or 'accurate précis of some received wisdom most of us agree with'

you are the captain of the thread police department's truth bomb squad

the most masterful works of the American comedic cinema, whose Golden Age was clearly 1915-50

Truth dud.

well if there has been truth bomb inflation it might be necessary to either limit the supply of truth bombs, perhaps everyone gets a ration, or maybe create a new, bombier term

you are the captain of the thread police department's truth bomb squad

― some dude, Monday, April 2, 2012 10:52 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hahaha

veracity dagger

accuracy grenade

fact laser

sword of insight

improvised explosive advice

real shank

Huh, I have already read it as sarcastic along exactly one of those axes: "What you have said may be true, sir, but it is certainly not audacious!" (slaps with glove)

verity molotov cocktail

okay I added a z-axis to my theory upthread

http://i.imgur.com/TBVkw.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1esrEb9p0Wc

this is how a tb should make u react, if it doesnt then its just an otm

i was crestfallen when someone beat me to using "truth bomber ginsburg" as a display name

― some dude, Monday, April 2, 2012 10:45 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

: D

can we get a mod substitution on Morbius to change the word "film" to "totes pwning fragfest"

change his name to Dr Woot

that'll show him

I changed my mind change my name to Dr Woot

Can I make it "talkie" or "photo-play" instead?

hahaha

*silently woots*

can you hear me dr woot

wait no one is showing appreciation for iatee's graph, I think it deserves some

I certainly appreciate it.

o wait nm, there was appreciation shown for the earlier version I guess

According to itself it qualifies as a "zing"

or wait no there wasn't, what?

just keep posting it'll all make sense eventually

I spent years collecting and plotting that data and nobody appreciates it

haha i didn't see it until know

er now

just wanted to put a vote in for a lol sniper.

what's good about the OG truth bombs thread is that the initial example is a platonic expression of the form, if you're wondering what justifies t-bomb designation just refer back and meditate

you can argue that there has not been another truth bomb past the first one

which is what most of that thread is arguing about iirc

challops is more interesting to dissect.
its more presented as audacious then actually being audacious.

Rolling CHALLENGING OPINIONS thread 2008

pour one out

the right use of "challop" is for something the poster thinks is audacious, but isn't

I don't think that's exactly right

It's more like kinda audacious but mostly yeah ok buddy

*misses burt_stanton*

again, the first post on the aforementioned challops thread is the platonic idea of a challop imo

also fuckin autocorrect wants challop to be "shallop", which is making me hungry for shallots, b/c wtf is a shallop?

http://www.smithtrail.net/images/content/Smithshallop.gif

who knew

'challop' had a double (at least) meaning from the start!

anyway, i don't get much from Dr Morbius' dislike of "truth bomb" other than a barely concealed rage that other people can't be controlled, as usual.

I guess it does encompass "poster thinks it's audacious but it isn't" but there's also an element of "gtfo you don't actually think that" in a lot of them, the way I think about it

Euler's truth bomb paradox: consider the sentence "This sentence is not a truth bomb." If it is a truth bomb, then it's not a truth bomb. If it is not a truth bomb, it is a truth bomb.

QED now ILX will self-delete

my head hurts

I think I hate this thread

OTM to me is 'on the media' with brooke gladstone and bob garfield, and while i like the show, they are frequently wrong or very late to the game on many issues.

THREAD IMPROVES

hahah

OTM always makes me think of OTS (office of thrift supervision) and OTB (off-track betting)

Euler's truth bomb paradox: consider the sentence "This sentence is not a truth bomb." If it is a truth bomb, then it's not a truth bomb. If it is not a truth bomb, it is a truth bomb.

This is also known as a challodox

having a problem with "truth bomb" or "pwned" is pretty much the rallying cry of the butthurt

u mad

hemorrhoids make ppl irritable, i guess

i don't get much from Dr Morbius' dislike of "truth bomb" other than a barely concealed rage that other people can't be controlled, as usual

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I have always liked "challops" bcz I dig seafood

Euler's truth bomb paradox: consider the sentence "This sentence is not a truth bomb." If it is a truth bomb, then it's not a truth bomb. If it is not a truth bomb, it is a truth bomb.

something can be true and not be a truth bomb... I thought we had established that already

^^ truth bomb

you guys need to refer to the graph

lolgic

This thread has gotten so much more entertaining than a thread with this premise started for these reasons has any right to be, seriously lolling here.

Somebody musta called in an arclight, cuz they're dropping a whole lotta truth bombs in here

http://thewe.cc/thewei/_/images_4/us_terror_state__/b-1b_dropping_m_%2082_bombs.jpe

How amazing, stop it now

having a problem with "truth bomb" or "pwned" is pretty much the rallying cry of the butthurt

we may all have varying opinions on "truth bomb" or "pwned" but I think everybody can agree that anybody who says "butthurt" is totally tragic

but you just said it

use-mention distinction tbh

Wish Elmo had included
http://www.startrek.com/legacy_media/images/200303/tos-017-one-of-kirk-s-old-flam/320x240.jpg

our butts may all be in varying degrees of pain, but i think everyone can agree that anybody who says "totally tragic" is u mad

yes, comparing the most masterful works of the American comedic cinema, whose Golden Age was clearly 1915-50, to classic rock is "pretty substantial"

― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Monday, April 2, 2012 7:44 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no, dude, it's a fucking truthbomb, that's the part you're failing to grasp.

Yeah haven't you seen the graph

'butthurt' implies ur butt hurts because ur butt got fucked but not all buttfucking hurts, haha pwned, learn one prostate n00bs

improvised explosive advice

― Whiney Houson (WmC), Monday, April 2, 2012 8:02 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

got lost in the fray, deserves a round

I feel like there is an x-y axis with 'correctness' and 'audacity' - something correct but not audacious is 'otm', something audacious but not nec. correct is 'challops' and something both correct and audacious is a truth bomb

― iatee, Monday, April 2, 2012 7:45 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there needs to be a special thread for stuff as well-formed as this

thanking u, I was proud of that one

xp

Justly so!

oh Christ Morbz, grow the fuck up already.

How amazing, stop it now

― Matt Armstrong, Monday, April 2, 2012 7:15 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

really feeling "how amazing" as a meme

how amazing

otm

i like the stern stop it now part a lot as well.

"how amazing" is "what a disaster" for 2012

'good thread'

burn

Y U NO WATCH MON ONCLE

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'butthurt' implies ur butt hurts because ur butt got fucked but not all buttfucking hurts, haha pwned, learn one prostate n00bs

I think we had a whole thing about whether "butthurt" means "spanked" or "involuntarily sodomized" - if the latter, then it's pretty shameful that people'd use it casually, but I sort of decided to believe in the "spanked" answer so I didn't have to think half of ilx thinks rape jokes are great

"we"

I always thought it was like, you got your ass kicked -> u are butthurt

or maybe your butt just hurts, idk, ppl get cranky when their butts hurt

you are hurt, and a butt.

I hurt my butt today to see if I still feel

someone put out cigarette butts on your butt

you are buttbutthurt

I hurt my butt today to see if I still feel

just enjoyed thinking of this song for the first time ever

first direct words i ever exchanged with my man aero were opposing views on 'bee rape' iirc

spanking theory is interesting, i hadn't considered it tbh. though many other idioms to describe grumpiness do involve something ~in~ the butt, such as having a stick or a bug up one's ass

I guess until now I thought it was like "buttrocker" and just had the "butt" on it to indicate some kind of denim vest dumbness?

Have always understood "burthurt" to be a side effect of forcible sodomy.

STupid iPad.

I am going to start saying "burthurt" now

just say "butthurt stanton"

butthurt vs sand in V

butthurt and ernie

I always thought that butthurt meant "cranky because of hemorrhoids.

lots of nerve endings in the butt, there is significant hurt potential

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I always thought that butthurt meant "cranky because of hemorrhoids."

Guess I've thought this too--as in taking out your hemorrhoids on everyone around you.

oh this thread: such sublime heights, such wretched lows

seems to me that if you think butthurt means forcible sodomy that might say more about you?

and when you gaze into the anal rape, the anal rape gazes also into you

(^way sorry)

nah, it's a reasonable interp given the ubiquity of other slang fixtures like "don't fuck me in the ass" and other Mamet crutches that make account executives glow when they say em.

anything "classic" has to be at least 30-40 years old btw

(yes, like my underwear)

uh mordy why is that

anal rape... has eyes?

i mean the phrase has an actual genealogy no matter what people "think" it means or want it to mean

seems to me that if you think butthurt means forcible sodomy that might say more about you?

yeah no

how'd you get all that ass in those genes

lots of nerve endings in the butt, there is significant hurt potential

― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, April 4, 2012 10:35 AM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So many ways a butt can hurt. Maybe it's proctalgia fugax!

there's a lotta meat on the butt to absorb any hurt.

50 Ways to Get a Butthurt

yeah it's adorable that ppl could be so innocent but there is no way that term doesn't have an origin that's sexual in nature

wedgies can cause a hurt butt, too

please enlighten me as to the etymology of the term butthurt.

Panties in a bunch < Butthurt > Anal Rape

( ow )

one day we'll get to the bottom of this

the point about 5 years ago where 'butthurt' went from something ade and chaki said occasionally to something dozens of posters say on a daily basis is probably one of the single worst developments in the history of ilx

i think that i first encountered this term (in IRL and on ILX) in the Wu-Tang thread where hoos butthurt deej.

it means acting like you've been assfucked when the thing you're complaining about is no big deal. didn't know there was a question about this!

it's making fun of the way people feel, as opposed to the way those people act. they may be "butthurt", but they are manifesting their butthurtedness by being "buttholes".

ILX usage explodes after this poll: BEING BUTT HURT: C/D

"truth butts"

prolapsed butthurt

Hurt Your Butt With This One Weird Trick!

have never thought of butthurt relating to sodomy, suddenly think v poorly of the sex-negative denizens of ILX for throwing it around with that presumed context all these years

can't it be, like, putting a thumbtack on a fellow student's chair

butthurt is used by many different people all over the internet, and not all of them have the same understanding of its meaning.

we had huge debates about whether "butthurt" was hate speech / teasing / derogatory to gay students

i think that for the students i knew at this school, there was a sense that it was almost equivalent to calling someone maricón, which afaik doesn't always literally mean "fag", sometimes it just means "sissy"

it was also complicated by the fact that you could say a girl was butthurt (and they often did)

BUT that said it was usually directed from one student toward a male student who had broken the code of acting "too cool" to get upset about anything

butthurt is multivalent, polychromatic, a kaleidescope of butts suffering in an uncountable variety of ways

a rhizomatic network of butt and hurt

like if someone draws on your backpack you're supposed to either a) get cold-blooded revenge or b) act like you don't give a shit cause who gives a fuck

but if you "caught feelings" you're open to being accused of "butthurt"

just let me know if you'd like me to break down any other hip lingo

Is "owned" a prison thing?

In reference?

owned is a hacker thing by way of video games i think

hacker thing, probably primordially "your box is owned"

owned dates back to slave days, during the reconstruction though it was changed to "pwnd"

carpetbaggers also known as "script kiddies"

john c calhoun used to give speeches on "this righteous state of pownage"

so did we ever get to the bottom of this butthurt thing?

I am really cocksmoked by this debate

yeah butthurt doesn't equal buttrape to me, any more than sand in vadge means someone has forcibly introduced sand to yr vagina

you have a deeper appreciation for the term "pain in the ass" after you experience a severe hemorrhoid outbreak

having a hurt butt will exacerbate yr reaction to any number of non-butt-related stimuli (e.g. morning traffic) and butthurt ime is usually used when someone is being oversensitive

^^^buttsplaining

I just like saying butt

itt put butt in the band name

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― soref, Sunday, February 18, 2018 7:16 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wait i meant the actual truth bomb thread

suuure