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well? should there? the idea got a mixed reception last night.

― chris (chris), Thursday, 12 September 2002 08:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Let it be so.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 12 September 2002 08:46 (twenty-three years ago)

If you're talking American Football I'm game, but I doubt it would go far on ILx. These board's are loaded with Anglos and Anglophiles - soccer's the only sport that generates much discussion. Note the lack of a Johnny U RIP thread (as of this posting).

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 08:47 (twenty-three years ago)

not soccer, football, you know, the round ball game.

― chris (chris), Thursday, 12 September 2002 08:50 (twenty-three years ago)

I can see the attraction but on balance I think probably not. It's not like the football threads here are overwhelming, is it?

― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 12 September 2002 08:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Aargh!

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 08:55 (twenty-three years ago)

sorry, being Facetious (sp?)

is Johnny Unitas dead then? Heard of the name, can't remember why, early superbowls????

― chris (chris), Thursday, 12 September 2002 08:56 (twenty-three years ago)

I can see the attraction but on balance I think probably not. It's not like the football threads here are overwhelming, is it?

No, but you could see it as an opportunity rather than a problem.

I'm only participating if it's called 'I Love Soccer' though.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 12 September 2002 08:58 (twenty-three years ago)

95% of football discussion groups rapidly fill up with infantile, aggressive, hate-filled nonsense eg 'my club is better than yours + i'll kick the sh*t out of you next time we play you away' etc.

The better 5% are generally password protected and are careful who they let in. I like the odd football thread on ILE but there are plenty of alternative groups purely dedicated to the game and I'd hate to see IL* damaged by the trolls who usually hang out in them.

― stevo (stevo), Thursday, 12 September 2002 08:59 (twenty-three years ago)

that was the main anti-point last night Stevo.

N. please get on the train down here so I can kick your arse.

― chris (chris), Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Johnny U, maybe the greatest quarterback ever (until Michael Vick), very old school NFL, won a Super Bowl, on the losing side in the greatest Super Bowl upset ever, on the winning side in the greatest NFL game ever played (58 championship vs. New York Football Giants), Baltimore icon.

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:02 (twenty-three years ago)

I think ILE works because it's a great big daft slopping soup of - erm - everything. I like the idea of coming across things by accident, which isn't likely to happen so much if every enthusiasm has its own little locker room.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:02 (twenty-three years ago)

The reason I can't come to the lunchtime FAP (FALP?) is because me & Gashead Skidmore would come to murderous blows over Saturday's game. A game to which I (loyal supporter) am going and he (part-timer) is not.

Oh no! It's started already!

I agree with Stevo.

― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe this thread can be about American football and rest of the globe football and the two can keep bumping awkwardly into each other.

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:04 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't think an I love football would be a good idea, as football is a part of everything and why not just keep it here? People don't have to read sports threads. There will be an I Love Movies, I Love Bangb*s, I Love Not Going on Dates, I Love Art etc before you know it... If there was an ILF, I probably wouldn't use. Not that I think that will sway any final decision! :)

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:06 (twenty-three years ago)

What jel said.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:25 (twenty-three years ago)

ok, no probs, twas just a thought.

Anyway, what the hell happened in the Premiership last night??? all the victories seemed to be the wrong way round and Liverpool throw away a two goal lead *again* Houllier is right, they should be top of the league.

added to that Barca got knocked out of the Spanish cup by a third division side *again*!!

― chris (chris), Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:30 (twenty-three years ago)

I Love Football should, if it existed, only be about Soccer and Aussie Rules - games where lots of footing of the ball occurs.

Union, League and Gridiron are more like Handball than Football. An occasional kick of the ball is not enough. Also, their scoring allows things like 'placing the ball on the ground' to earn points. That's just not good enough to entitle them to be referred to as Football.

Seeing as there is a worthy game already called Handball they should stick to being called Union, League and Gridiron.

― toraneko (toraneko), Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes and backgammon should only be played on a real back of gammon!!

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:32 (twenty-three years ago)

And handball? - that ball's not made of hands!

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Considering how much of ILx is generated by cross-Atlantic misunderstandings and debate I move that I Love Football incorporate known to its participants and spectators as 'football'. Even Canadian football. Even, alas, Arena League Football.

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Inbetween incorporate and known insert anything.

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:40 (twenty-three years ago)

There is a town in Georgia named Between so that when you are there you are in Between.

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:41 (twenty-three years ago)

There's a town in Tasmania called Plenty because you can catch plenty of fish there.

― toraneko (toraneko), Thursday, 12 September 2002 10:00 (twenty-three years ago)

and don't forget gaelic football, which is what is meant by football in many parts of ireland. yer english-style football is called soccer here.

― angela (angela), Thursday, 12 September 2002 10:19 (twenty-three years ago)

No it's not.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 12 September 2002 10:56 (twenty-three years ago)

No, because throughout the football season you will all disapear off to ILF and you'll abandon us. Keep boards united!

― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 12 September 2002 11:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Not that I'd care.

― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 12 September 2002 11:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Do keep the boards united.

"You know you've arrived as a quarterback when you can tell the coach to go to hell." - Johnny Unitas

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 11:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Houllier is right, they should be top of the league.

Under that new rule where the score at 80mins counts double?

What was that old Bob Paisley line about playing until the final whistle?

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 12 September 2002 11:15 (twenty-three years ago)

thankyou Michael.

I should have added "if they didn't get so bloody complacent in the last ten minutes"

― chris (chris), Thursday, 12 September 2002 11:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Just joshing, Cabbage. I need something to cheer me up at the moment (another flurry of terrible finishing at St Mary's last night) and I'm finding the Reds' Late-Equaliser-With-Every-Game special offer (expiry: 31.12.02... hopefully) hugely comical.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 12 September 2002 11:37 (twenty-three years ago)

yes it is andrew, though not so much in dublin which is why i said "many parts of ireland". all my culchie workmates refer to gaelic as football, and football as soccer. i refer to them the other way round and they call me a west brit. what a pity the "dublin - c or d" thread is locked.

― angela (angela), Thursday, 12 September 2002 11:53 (twenty-three years ago)

i refer to them the other way round and they call me a west brit
What, you sometimes call GAA 'soccer'? That is truly madness.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 12 September 2002 11:59 (twenty-three years ago)

West Brit n.

Derogatory term for s.o. apeing the manners of British establishment; West Briton. Pejorative. An Anglophile, someone who perceives Ireland as West Britain, or a middle-class Dubliner, typically southside (especially Dublin 4), stereotypically with liberal attitudes on moral issues.

unpleasant little insult. Reminds me of the GAA lads at uni opining that cricket was 'a game for virgins'.

― stevo (stevo), Thursday, 12 September 2002 12:12 (twenty-three years ago)

i wasn't clear there N., sorry. i call gaelic football 'gaelic' and soccer 'football'. as far the west brit name calling goes, it's meant light-heartedly and isn't far off the mark as i am a middle-class dubliner who lives on the southside (dublin 6) and has liberal views on social issues. i also went to trinity so that settles it.

― angela (angela), Thursday, 12 September 2002 12:17 (twenty-three years ago)

I love Subbuteo

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 12 September 2002 13:47 (twenty-three years ago)

If it's I Love Soccer it would be ILS, like the breakbeat artist of the same name. It's a great idea in some ways, I imagine really picky threads about certain games and goals and incidents and just a general elevation of football discussion to the levels other things get discussed around here. The potential seems huge, but the points Stevo made are also quite good ones. Still though.....the IL* dynamic put into football discussions might be worth a gamble.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 12 September 2002 13:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Cos at the moment football threads are sort of like "hey and by the way, did anyone see the match last night?????"

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 12 September 2002 14:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry to effectively spam this thread, but would anyone like to join me?

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 12 September 2002 14:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Y'know, you can just go and start one, it doesn't have to be officially sanctioned.

― Graham (graham), Thursday, 12 September 2002 14:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, I have started one - and now I'd like to see if other folk would like to create teams that I can add to the league.

Of course, if they've already got teams which are members of other friends' leagues, then that's tough luck for me.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 12 September 2002 14:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Whoops - you were talking about an ILF/S forum, not a fantasy league! Apologies...

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 12 September 2002 15:02 (twenty-three years ago)

"95% of football discussion groups rapidly fill up with infantile, aggressive, hate-filled nonsense eg 'my club is better than yours + i'll kick the sh*t out of you next time we play you away' etc"

So it'll just be like ILM except we talk about football teams instead of bands? I'm game.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 13 September 2002 09:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Northampton Town - classic or dud?
POO: Norweigan defenders

I think not.

― Jeff W (Jeff W), Friday, 13 September 2002 13:07 (twenty-three years ago)

*Norwegian*

― Jeff W (Jeff W), Friday, 13 September 2002 13:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Risse!

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 13 September 2002 13:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Kvarme! er....

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 13 September 2002 13:13 (twenty-three years ago)

NTFC classic or dud sounds like a fantastic thread, and would enable me to crack my 'last resting place of the marco' joke.

― Tim (Tim), Friday, 13 September 2002 13:30 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't join it Jonesy :o( I'm already in a league (and they get stroppy about multiple teams)

― chris (chris), Friday, 13 September 2002 17:36 (twenty-three years ago)

oh good Michael Jones, let me infect your league by drafting Brian Urlacher and Warren Sapp. They will destroy your puny Michael Owen.

― felicity (felicity), Friday, 13 September 2002 18:21 (twenty-three years ago)

[NB: "puny Michael Owen" = music to Mike's ears]

― the pinefox (the pinefox), Friday, 13 September 2002 18:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Toraneko: call them 'handoval'. When my friend Tim B, an occasional guest here, gets on his public school high horse and claims that 'football' describes the game the rest of the world calls Rugby Union, that's what I claim is a better name for Rugby, et al.

Tim H: spot on. Our fight wouldn't be any kind of clash of the titans, except possibly on ILE, which is rather low on hard men.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 13 September 2002 19:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Felicity: I'm all for destroying Michael Owen, but I fear your lumbering hulks might find themselves on their ample arses once they discovered they were supposed to tackle with their feet. It's worth a red card and a three-match suspension to see what alternative they might try though.

Anyone else for this league thing? Pick a team, e-mail me yr PIN and you're in. It runs on a month-by-month basis, so failure to enter a team by tomorrow just means the four of us currently in the ILE league will have a 7-fixture head-start (still another 22 matches after tomorrow in Month 1). Which might not be a disadvantage if our defenders leak goals.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 13 September 2002 20:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll enter tomorrow morning, definitely.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 13 September 2002 20:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I could compare the scores from my league?

here's my team as at 4.15 today

125 P Robinson LEE 3.4m 0 0
253 JA Riise LIV 5.0m 0 0
286 M Silvestre MU 3.9m 0 3
393 R Ferdinand MU 4.0m 0 3
364 W Gallas CHE 3.6m -1 -1
561 A Benarbia MC 3.7m 2 2
401 D Dunn BLA 4.0m 3 3
408 Edu ARS 3.1m 0 0
572 M Etherington TOT 3.1m 0 0
656 N Anelka MC 7.2m 0 0
607 S Wiltord ARS 7.4m 3 3

― chris (chris), Saturday, 14 September 2002 14:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry, I was tempted into a fiendishly complicated Yahoo fantasy league by carsmilesteve - it's here if you're interested. The league is 11118, if you want to join it. I don't have the energy for another one.

My team: Mark Schwarzer; Stephane Henchoz, Sol Campbell, Martin Keown; Nick Barmby, Jamie Redknapp, Joe Cole, Junichi Inamoto; El Hadji Diouf, Michael Owen, Ruud van Nistelrooy. The fact that Owen is on sale at £22.61m says something about how ludicrously complex it is.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 14 September 2002 14:36 (twenty-three years ago)

I hate football, it's shit.

― chris (chris), Saturday, 14 September 2002 14:50 (twenty-three years ago)

ok, so maybe it's alright.

― chris (chris), Saturday, 14 September 2002 14:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah, Bristol Rovers 1 Exeter 1. Maybe Tim and I will not have to fight after all, which is probably for the best as he is much bigger than me.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 14 September 2002 15:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Liverpool snatch victory from the jaws of equalness, thank god for that, but best of all, Mansfield concede 6 ha ha ha h ah a and Chesterfield get a draw against the leaders

― chris (chris), Saturday, 14 September 2002 15:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, I think I'm off to a reasonable start if the BBC reports are accurate: Inamoto and Henry scored one each for my 11 *and* got three assists between them; Robinson kept a clean sheet, Weir let one in (but got his appearance point), Lauren and Henchoz didn't play, Tie Li, Dyer, Giggs and Smith did nowt, Ziege plays (possibly) tomorrow.

So that's a balance of +15 from one day. I think we have to wait until Monday for the scores to come up.

Martin: if they're going down to two decimal places, I should probably steer clear.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 14 September 2002 16:53 (twenty-three years ago)

And the player prices change every week! I think they want you to changew your team every week! Bar injuries, I don't plan to bother.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 14 September 2002 17:13 (twenty-three years ago)

The BBC thing is on a month-by-month basis - maximum of six transfers within the 'game month' (this one is 31/8-2/10), unlimited in the interim period (next one: 2-5/10). I guess you're supposed to weigh up the month's fixtures and tailor your team accordingly. I'll see how long I can be bothered with that. I did drop Queudrue today at 2pm when I suddenly remembered who Boro were playing.

I think Nicky D's also on +15 after the first day. If only Radebe had started instead of Matteo, eh Nick?

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 14 September 2002 17:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Northampton Town - classic or dud?

Ker-lassic! Quite obviously. We're gonna go bankrupt, and we're spending £500,000 on wages per year to a strike force that's score a grand total of 4 this season between them. Still, we took a point off Huddersfield today, so...

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 14 September 2002 17:37 (twenty-three years ago)

qpr are gonna run away with that division there

― bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 14 September 2002 17:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Wouldn't be so sure, Bob. Wigan are the early pacesetters, but they were nothing special when they came to Sixfields in the Worthington's. QPR will faulter. Put your money on Oldham, they sounded awesome today.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 14 September 2002 19:12 (twenty-three years ago)

The time I saw Qpr they looked decidedly average, especially against a pretty weak Chesterfield side.

14 points on my fantasy team from yesterday, with three forwards playing now and a midfielder later!

― chris (chris), Sunday, 15 September 2002 12:24 (twenty-three years ago)

please please god don't let fucking Oldham get promoted: they are paranoid small-town racists more inbred than anywhere in the countryside and Joe Royle is a cunt (can never like any team he has ever had anything to do with, sorry)

Northampton Town = classic (in their way) when they shared the cricket ground.

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Sunday, 15 September 2002 19:20 (twenty-three years ago)

or to put it another way:

1993 = Oldham fan calls Ian Wright a "black cunt". Wright hits back (literally)

2001 = 12,000 BNP votes (from memory) in Oldham's two constituencies combined

that fan must have been among them, surely?

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Sunday, 15 September 2002 19:21 (twenty-three years ago)

should there be an I Love Books?

― David H(owie) (David H(owie)), Sunday, 15 September 2002 19:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Michael Vick is the sun, public enemy number one.

― James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 15 September 2002 20:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Roger Palmer: Classic or Dud?

― the pinefox, Sunday, 15 September 2002 20:18 (twenty-three years ago)

so far,the possibility of
"Northampton Town - classic or dud?
POO: Norweigan defenders"
is the best pro-ilf arguement yet...

― robin (robin), Monday, 16 September 2002 03:10 (twenty-three years ago)

seven months pass...

Bump

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I think this is a really good idea, actually, football discussion on ILX tends to get shoehorned into wide threads, with the "Manchester United" and "Teddy Sheringham" threads usually having around 100 posts and 90 of them talking about fooball subjects other than the ones in the title.

And any chance for a large group of people to discuss the ineptitude of ITV punditry (Ally McCoist- Dud or Dud? could be an early thread) has to be a great idea.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, as part of the current cancer of breakaway boards that is diluting ILX, I'd post to it.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:13 (twenty-two years ago)

(Sorry, that read a bit sarky)

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:13 (twenty-two years ago)

POX: Isthman Premier Teams

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:21 (twenty-two years ago)

yes says I

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I say no... I like having everything on one page and can't be arsed checking loads of forums every day. This is partly why I hardly ever look at I Love Film.

Also, it would mean fewer football threads on ILE, which get more people posting to them and thus a wider-ranging conversation.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Our equivalent of "Indie Guilt" would be Emile Heskey.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Also we could well just end up spreading ourselves thinner and thinner which would ultimately end up making ILE Proper less interesting.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I think there should be more football threads here, I love reading them. All it takes is someone shameless to start threads on minor topics which will only last 15 posts or so - cf the way the Dirty Vicar's comics threads work.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't care about football, in fact I rigorously *avoid* football threads. But... starting other forums (fora?) like I Love Film and I Love Football worries me in that I fear it syphons away interesting discussion.

I mean, this is I Love *Everything*, right? And everything includes things like football and films and music and all...

― kate, Friday, 9 May 2003 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Exactly - ILF inevitably means fewer film threads over here. I mean, ILM is one thing because its the first-born and Ilxor is still (in theory) part of FreakyTrigger. But I don't to have to go onto I Love Literature to read a book thread or I Love Cooking for a food thread or whatever.

Keep it all together in one big disorganised heap is what I say.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Exactly - ILF inevitably means fewer film threads over here.

Is that inevitable? How many ILF threads would've been started here? If I had something to say about football, I might not say it here cos it could seem like too small a point upon which to base a thread. A football board would give license to discuss these small things. There are only ever one or two football threads on the go on ILE, and I think that number would still be maintained.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm in favour of more football threads,whether they stay here or are on i love football
and if were going to discuss itv pundits,some mention has to be made of jim beglin and how irritating he is...

― robin (robin), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd agree with everyone who's said keep it on ILX, but start more football threads.

― James Ball (James Ball), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

other forums would be great. I like football but it isn't as big an interest as books/music/film.

as far as I love football goes, maybe it should until the beginning of the season in august.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm against it for all of the reasons I was against ILF, and more. Arts and entertainment are central here, unsurprisingly given that that's how ILX started, and I'd guess that the kind of people attracted by ILF will have loads in common with ILXers generally. This is less true of football, I think, and I'd expect a devoted board to diverge in style and ethos pretty quickly, and this is unlikely to be in ways I'd appreciate.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I too would want the football threads to stay here, please. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)

no ;-)

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 9 May 2003 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Eyeball = OTM

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 May 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Eyeball is on the money yes, ILfootball would be cool because you'd get specifics, also given last weeks tantrum about football threads why not?

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

should there be an I love Ronan?

(should there be an I love Zelda?)

― Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I Love Ronan board would obviously attract the wrong kind of person to ILX.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

HEY I LOVE RONAN, I JUST B()UGHT MY INTERNET, I AM LOOKING FOR MP3Z, WAR3Z & PR0N OF R0N4N

― Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...

i. Intriguing snapshot of the changing tides of opinion on ILX re sub-boards.

ii. Sports-themed subboards are generally considered successful (ILBaseball being the model) and haven't attracted new idiots.

iii. So, bump.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

where would the fantasy football thread come into this? is that i love football, i love everything or i love games?

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

i wouldn't mind really, there are so many football threads on ILE - evn if it's just a news story about Wenger vs Mourinho or whatever.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

Has there ever been a temptation to move existing ILE threads to the new sub-boards once they've started. Would this be a bad idea?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

when i've made new boards of late i have offered to move over threads so long as the threads are recent and the thread starter wants it

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!!

― We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

It's tricky because there are so many long-running football threads on ILE e.g. the World Cup qualification banter thread and the Champions League thread, the latter of which would continue until May at the earliest. Could probably start new World Cup thread though seeing as the qualifying is almost over.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

Move them over. The Spurs, Liverpool vs Everton and Roy Keane threads must go on forever.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

i guess the "recent" rule is un-necessary - so long as the thread starter is keen for the move

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

The fragmentation of ILE does seem to have devalued the 'Everything' though. Maybe it will have to be renamed to I Love Politics, Arguing About Race, Trolls And Hugglez as everything else will have been jettisoned.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

ii. Sports-themed subboards are generally considered successful (ILBaseball being the model) and haven't attracted new idiots.

Surely ILWWE preceeds ILBaseball?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

shhhh (damn xpost)

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

xxpost I agree completely. Maybe we could do a I Like Trolls and oust the nasty people that way?

― Nathalie, the Queen of Frock 'n' Fall (stevie nixed), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

yeh but WWE is idiotic Dom (hugglez)

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

It is a tricky one because those threads are genuine ILE classics (OK if you like football they are).

xpost sorry Dom!

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

There aren't that many football threads, and they're mostly not very active. I think they're fine where they are.

Maybe if we moved the twenty million 'George Bush is a cunt' type threads onto a new board the footie would be easier to find.

xpost

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

Steve is also right - the hiving of various other subjects onto other boards has gradually shaved off a lot of what used to be interesting about ILE. But as that process has been well underway for about 18months now I'm not sure I especially care any more so go ahead and make the board.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

Just have a look at the I Like Cooking (or whatever it's called): IF it had stayed here, maybe those threads would have been more active? I dunno. Whatever.

― Nathalie, the Queen of Frock 'n' Fall (stevie nixed), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

I Love Film is a something of a desert.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

i know we have the aja/dante board as a sort of "sin bin" board - do you think we should extend that, make it more clear in the title of the board perhaps? we should at least formalise this somehow.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

Would this make ILE better or would it improve the quality of football conversations? Or both?

― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

neither I think.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

x-post re I love cooking, if it hadn't been created, yes, some threads might have had more people posting, but I think a lot of those threads wouldn't have been created. Some of those threads are very specific, asking detailed questions, which would have just sunk if they'd been posted on ILE, possibly before other like-minded people got to see them and post to them.

― Vicky (Vicky), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

I've a feeling that football threads tend to be popular enough to hang around on ILE for long enough to be seen.

― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

Alan that comes under the long-promised (by me) rewrite of the FAQ :(

Tim: judging by the other successful sports boards it would improve the quantity of football conversations. The quantity? I don't know.

My ideal for ILX is that any board ought to be enjoyable for specialists and newbies alike and discussion should reflect that. I'm not sure ILM is this anymore, even. I Love Comics might be. I Love Film isn't. I Love Cooking - dunno.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

Both of the ILCs (Cooking and Comics) are sucesses in their own way, but have a fairly small list of core contributors (Comics less than 20, Cooking only about 10).

Tim's point is a good one - the experience of those two boards would indicate the quality of conversation would improve markedly but as Nathalie suggests the quantity of posts (and posters) may well decrease inversely proportionately.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

mmm, let's make an "I Love last nights telly" heh heh

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

why has the quality of conversation improved? is there just a sense of people feeling more comfortable about enthusing, criticising and waxing lyrical about the subject?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure a new board is necessary (the football threads thrive as it stands) but I'm not against the idea. If you (Tom) think there's a chance of improving the quality then why not? It's hard to see what's lost.

I am now so entrenched in the "I don't mind" position that I have forgotten why I am typing this.

― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

but how much don't you mind?

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

I would be much more involved in cooking threads if they were on ILE.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

Yes, me too but I guess it's mostly because I feel like a complete moron on the ILC board... Does that make sense?

― Nathalie, the Queen of Frock 'n' Fall (stevie nixed), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

I Love Film might as well be shut down there is so little activity on there. But then there's not much film talk on ILE these days either it seems (maybe cos everyone has become 'polled-out'?)

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

I imagine the sub-boards don't have much trouble with trolling either.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

why has the quality of conversation improved? is there just a sense of people feeling more comfortable about enthusing, criticising and waxing lyrical about the subject?

I think that's a big part of it, but possibly also that there's an assumed amount of knowledge of other posters. (This may also relate to Nathalie's last post)

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

I'm in an 'I don't mind' mode too, I just thought that since new boards were proliferating again it was worth talking about. Selfishly I want to cut out as much of my ILE reading as possible and ILFoot would help that - however I know I'd hardly contribute.

ILComics has about 30 regulars, he says protectively.

Stevem The quality of conversation has improved because bits of trivia can get threadspace next to big news items.

The question with all sub-boards is - "how high are the perceived barriers to entry?" If ILCook appears to be full of Blumenthals you won't feel so happy talking about cheese on toast. With I Love Film rightly or wrongly there was a perception that the board was set up to let 'film experts' get away from ILE plebs.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

Onimo: I don't mind a bit.

― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

Quality of football discussion is generally high anyway though. Does it necessarily need improving by shunting it to another board that may decrease the volume of posts?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

btw I think the next referendum should be held under UN supervision because those federalists want to win at any cost - including the cost of dignity and democracy.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

Selfishly I want to cut out as much of my ILE reading as possible and ILFoot would help that - however I know I'd hardly contribute.

Tom is OTM here though, if there was an ILFoot is suspect I'd barely even look at ILE (and would probably post far more than I currently do on the ILCs as a result).

You could be right about the amount of regulars on Comix, I was just pulling a number off the top of my head.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

Soon there will be nothing left on ILE but Kingfish posting headlines from Daily Kos. Perhaps it is for the best.

― KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

Often on football threads I feel that I am doing the equivalent of talking about cheese on toast.

Cheese, cheese, cheese, it is always the same. I toast and I toast and I toast. I am the kind of man who has a toaster at home to make toast for other families.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

Is that another Mourinho quote?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

the advantage of ILBB (and now I Love Hoops) is that we can start new threads about any damn baseball-related topic that we want, without worrying about annoying any baseball-disliking or -neutral ILE clientele.

i'm in favor -- i think threads about MLS and South American teams/leagues would just clog up ILE and be quickly lost, whereas maybe ILFooty might welcome them and snuggle them gently to its warm milky breast

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

How would an I Love Sport pan out, I wonder?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

Soon there will be nothing left on ILE but Kingfish posting headlines from Daily Kos. Perhaps it is for the best.

EURGH.

(Which is to say, personally I'd love the football threads to stay right here, thanks!)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

can there please be an i love puns board?

or even better i pun everything

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

i pun everything should be run on its own novell netware server

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

How would an I Love Sport pan out, I wonder?

No other sports seem to attract as much ire as football though, to the seven people on ILE who actively hate football with a passion and like to remind people of this whenever they can.

Still it's not about appeasing a loud minority but structuring things more practically. Again I'm not adverse to the idea of I Love Sports really, it might even get me more interested in sports other than football again (hmm maybe not). It's funny that most of use don't seem to be bothered either way.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

This is a good point, and the reason why we started pushing for the (american) Football boards. I was having a helluva time with it because the threads would sink quickly amidst all the meta threads and the George Bush threads and...and...and...etc. I imagine it was the same thing for baseball. It's not like these subjects cannot come up on ILE ever again, I mean cooking and food questions have been posted here still and when the World Series was going on, a baseball thread came up on ILE, and people still talk about video games on here despite I Love Games's existance. Having a separate board for a specialized topic with a sizeable core group of adherents is a good idea not because it'll segregate the discussion from ILE completely, but it will allow those people to converse in depth without threads disappearing before other interested people get a chance to contribute.

So, yes, just looking at, say, I Love Baseball, having a separate board for specialized topics does increase the level of discourse and it does attract people who DON'T post to ILE to post there. It does not wholly stop the subject from being breached on ILE however. I think it is unfortunate, though, that interested people would not come and post on a specialized board because they don't feel as knowledgable as the people who post often!

Anyway that is my 2c I clickd on this by accident thinking it was my NFL thread :D

xpost I have argued against I Love Sports! Because I have found that sports fans who are wholly dedicated to one single sport and no other don't always mix well with those who are more omnisexual in their sporting preferences, and then no one wants to talk.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

ILE should split into individual sub-boards targeting popular web demographics and buttressed with AdSense sidebars/banners. Profits from ads will be used to cover hosting and bandwidth costs, after which moderators will be reimbursed a sum based upon the performance of their board as a click-through referrer. That sum is to be disbursed to board contributors at the mods' discretion, best principles will evolve over time in the face of the market. I suggest the following categories:

Films
Television
Cooking
Comics
Helmeted Football
Helmet-free Football
Baseball
Basketball
Video Games
Computers and Gadgets/Technology
Dating Advice/Mental Health
San Francisco
New York
Washington DC
Seattle
Chicago
London
North Of London
Cute Animals
Politics

After a couple of years I figure we sell the whole kit & caboodle to some MSM conglomerate at the first sign of an offer that will make most of us rich, comp graham a couple ten thousand for the codebase andsend all of our kids to university with the royalties.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

The revolution will be profitable.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

you put a helmet on the football?! SILLY YANKS

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

What, hockey ain't got no love?

Oh wait.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

I want an I Love Probert board.

― KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/416186/2/vector_soccer_balls_in_helmet.jpg

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

ADROABLE

I remember when Channel 4 started showing American football they would put their 4 logo in an AF helmet during the continuity announcement.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Well, it seems to me that lots of specialist boards is counterproductive. Sure, an ILFoot would mean that, predictably, no football threads appear on ILE. There are fewer film threads and cooking threads and WWE threads on ILE since their respective sub-boards came into being. FOr me, this is a bad thing - ILE is great because it's not about anything, it's about EVERYTHING.

May I suggest an overheaul of the catagory system, so that instead of having loads of little catagories, people can specifiy, if they wish, what kind of thread the question is - General, Film, Cooking, Wrestling etc? That way people who want to see everything can, people who only want to see football threads can, and everything inbetween? Would this be difficult and/or time consuming? It just makes the whole thing as open-ended as possible.

― Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

I Love Film is a something of a desert.

This is because most of the people who talk about films are cocks.

― Dan (Can We Rename ILE To I Love Shit-Stirring?) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Johnny, problem there is that there is a lot of overlap re thread categories. This would 'affect' the sub-boards too though I suppose.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

There's overlap at the moment, yeh, because they're somewhat meta. If the catagory function actually made a difference as to who saw/contributed on your thread, then people would be sure to make the catagories the pick applicable to the thread.

― Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

I'm no more active in my dislike of football/football threads than other posters in their dislike of relationship/mental health/"self pity" threads.

― We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

I want an I Love Probert board.

only if we get an I Love McSorley as well

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

relationship/mental health/"self pity" threads

maybe these need their own board too, for sake of balance etc.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

but surely imbalance is the whole idea of them

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

save it for your Pun board, punboy

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

will it even actually happen though

hap pun.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

I am wholly against this, even though I really like New Boards in general - I think my basic objection is that I fundamentally think football is best discussed by people who are funny and who you like rather than who necessarily know a huge amount about football. I am not willing to justify this at all, if pressed I will make vague unclear hand gestures and murmur about england and game of the people and jumpers for goalposts etc.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

Eventually, there will be no ILE at all. Maybe, that's just evolution.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

is best discussed by people who are funny and who you like

This is why I Love Comics is (IMO) the best board on ILX.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

I Like Football sounds good. Or perhaps all the football posters could move en-masse to a new football messageboard site?

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)

xpost I MOVE OMICS?

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 4 November 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

I'm against it, as usual, partly for reasons defined above, partly for the same reason I often hate watching football in pubs, other than when entirely with friends.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

the more football threads (and yeh, FOOTball is a game where you kick the ball with your FEET, duh) there are, the less interesting ile superficially appears to me - but it's easy to filter it out like i don't even see nescafe when walking through a shop looking for coffee, i just think there isn't any coffee. there do seem to be an awful lot at the moment but it isn't that hard to just ignore them. having said that (and trying to see it from the pov of a fan as well as someone with next to no interest in the subject), i love sports sounds like a great idea.

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 7 November 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

cough

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)

oh hey didn't see you there

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)

we'd have to move SO many threads there

suggest a rolling MRF 'move x to ILF' bonanza

― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Friday, 26 March 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

we could start anew, and only move the threads as they come up.

we need to get the board first, so i propose you stop inventing problems. hitler never had to put up with this shit.

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

make an 'I Love A Football Team In North London' board and the regular soccer threads might be readable again.

― aarrissi-a-roni, Friday, 26 March 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

The football threads!

I accidentally click on one, then forever onwards it pops up with an empty circle going "new mesages" and I click it and go "oh no football thread"

So, I vote yes.

― Mark G, Friday, 26 March 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

I've only ever looked at ILE and ILM, and I don't see that changing

― The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

ban aarrissi-a-roni from i love football pls

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

^^ see this is my concern, new answers isn't gonna be nearly annoying enough to Americans if there aren't ten football threads on any given day

― MPx4A, Friday, 26 March 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

xp to mg

― MPx4A, Friday, 26 March 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

there's an idea -it should be private, invite only and only hinted at for the first few months.

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

I've only ever looked at ILE and ILM, and I don't see that changing

― The Oort Locker (Tom D.), 26 March 2010 14:58 (56 seconds ago)

preferences, boards that appear on site new answers, tick three boards. voila.

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

Eh?

― The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/CustomiseSiteNewPostsControllerServlet

Then use Site New Answers.

― ailsa, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:00 (fifteen years ago)

F, the threads would still be on SNA! And the 'DUH' at having mistakenly wandered into a soccerball thread will only be intensified if they've somehow missed the crucial 'I Love Football' qualifier first!

― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

I'm agin it.

― The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

http://ilovefootball.com.au/

― Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.ilovefootball.org/

― Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

Only if we call it I Love Liverpool Won't Win The Premiership 2001-date.

― Michael Jones, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)

yes

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)

i can cut a deal with yr people on that issue m jones, i have authority from the president

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)

Ronan, Stevie T and one or two others may not completely embrace such a board, however. Just throwing it out there. Perhaps if there was a board, Spurs fans might actually want to discuss FA Cup ties on the FA Cup thread.

(Actually, what I'm more in favour of is just one giant football thread on ILE which starts on July 1, ends on June 30 and includes all discussion on every competition. Every other year we can bail out of it on May 31 or June 15 and have a Euro/WC thread for a month (or however long you want)).

― Michael Jones, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

Spurs fans might actually want to discuss FA Cup ties on the FA Cup thread.

this annoyed me too

― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

but then I am thread hitler

― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

I accidentally click on one, then forever onwards it pops up with an empty circle going "new mesages" and I click it and go "oh no football thread"

I think you might need your own board.

― mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

I Love Myself

― The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

Think we cd maybe do with a more manageably sized main footie thread, if you miss more than 2 hours of posts at the moment you have to click that computer-knackeringly long "show all posts" button.

― Allbran Burg (Noodle Vague), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

Actually, what I'm more in favour of is just one giant football thread on ILE which starts on July 1, ends on June 30 and includes all discussion on every competition. Every other year we can bail out of it on May 31 or June 15 and have a Euro/WC thread for a month (or however long you want)

cool with this now we have bookmarking, but unwieldy for noobs

― mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

suggestion: monthly soccer threads. nfl threads during the season are on a weekly basis and that works very well. that's prob too often for soccer, but monthly would be handy in particular for whenever anyone wants to open the whole thread, which is a bit of a chore with the yearly threads.

― aarrissi-a-roni, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

Jeez!

I thought you'd like your own football board!

― Mark G, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

Spurs fans might actually want to discuss FA Cup ties on the FA Cup thread

guilty, guilty

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, that's a good idea. That sort of used to happens years ago with the weekly predictions threads.

Think we'd still only need one SPL thread for the whole season, right enough, but weekly/monthly Prem threads would be a good idea.

xpost

― ailsa, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

xp course you're all just fucking bitter you're out of the thing

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

maybe not monthly, but say a cutoff in december when we're sure liverpool won't win the league, then one in april for the gunners

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

Dispute monthly threads. Favour ILF.

― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

a cutoff in ~~december~~ september when we're sure liverpool won't win the league

― Allbran Burg (Noodle Vague), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

I sort of like the uphill slog as you get towards of a season - the fact that you can't check whether A.N.ILXor thought Berbatov would be top scorer back in August because it would kill your browser. You could have the thread subtitle altered by moderator every few weeks (like the US Healthcare thread).

I'm not being entirely serious because...I can't be entirely serious.

― Michael Jones, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

Surely the fact that this has never actually happened in 10 years+ proves it isn't really desirable enough? I'm anti-fragmentation in general tho. Just fewer football threads would do.

― mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

Having just checked back I can excitingly report that there are already well over 2000 more posts on the 09/10 season thread than for the whole of last season

Hat tip to a hoy hoy I think

― Not a musician, but I thought of Justin Fashanu for some reason (DJ Mencap), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

yall do deserve yr own board

― Violent (J0rdan S.), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

Surely the fact that were asking now proves that it merits more consideration that that?

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

we get custody of the arshavin photoshop thread btw

― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

also- football threads are the threads of the year so far- jordan s knows this is true

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

(xp)

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

I vote we just randomly post about football in whatever happens to be top thread on SNA at that moment

― Allbran Burg (Noodle Vague), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

that's no fun if Watercooler thread isn't going anymore

― mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

The arsh thread is not a football thread.

It's a happening!

― Mark G, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

I used to be anti-fragmentation, but Site New Answers makes it viable again.

― ailsa, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah I'm 100% with Ailsa there SNA has ended fragmentation as a problem imo.

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

Never used Site New Answers

― The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

the backlash starts :(

― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

well you can start- it's easy and it won't be any change if you just pick the boards you want to show?

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

What's it for?

― The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

it's so you can see all the new answers from threads from whichever boards you're interested in.

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

I believe you can exclude specific boards, the default being "all new answers"

― Mark G, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

I'm not being entirely serious because...I can't be entirely serious.

You were responsible for the funniest post ever, actually, a few years ago. About that busking cat at Victoria station. Not that this is remotely relevant to this thread.

― Home Taping Is Killing Muzak (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

I see, fair enough, if you're interested in other boards

― The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

The UK Top 50 of 1985

lol

― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

well presumably you would be, if one of them was about football?

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

― The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

i'm wasting valuable campaign time on this doorstep i think

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

I Love Labour

― mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

I'm interested in film and books, but I don't go there either. I've just noticed there's a Cricket board!

― The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

cricket board is not quite what you think

― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

We could have an 'I Love Football' board, and every time someone posts to a thread there they also have to post a link to it on whatever thread is top of ILE New Answers with a message saying 'Hey Tom D, come and check this out'. This would immeasurably promote harmony.

― Home Taping Is Killing Muzak (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

i mean is there any particular reason it would be a problem for you to go and select, on a once-off basis, what boards you'd like to see threads from? you can just pretend it's all ILE from then on.

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

Let go.

― ailsa, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

I'm in the anti-fragmentation camp. Just like lots of different, unpredictable, things in the one place.

― The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

i hate to leave you behind man

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

wait what all of those things will still be there!

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

Tuom D

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

Just like lots of different, unpredictable, things in the one place.

Kind of like the Site New Answers page really.

― Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

i dont see why not. site new answers, choose your boards visible to you, you even get to specify what colour text they appear in. works for me and my Ile, Ilg, ilP selection. don't notice any seperation.

― bracken free ditch (Ste), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

what would this achieve? it's not like it's a minority subject like cycling, which people were reluctant to start technical/esoteric threads about on ILE. that's the kind of situation where a new subboard makes sense in 2010 imo. not this.

still, sounds like the kind of thing that will upset someone, so count me in favour.

― caek, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

I've actually never really noticed Site New Answers before. Like Blog View or My Recent Posts, it's been invisible to me up till now.

― The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

what would this achieve?

what do you want it to achieve?

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

i want ronan to be made a mod and i want a sheffield united thread that gets ~100 posts per week. can this be arranged?

― caek, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

.....

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

.......

~75?

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

I reckon it would allow multiple extra football threads rather than corralling everything into the rolling threads, and allow the football-haters to totally ignore them all.

― ailsa, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

Rolling DIVING CHEATING CNUT thread would be a winner

― ailsa, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

totally against this.

― r|t|c, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

why?

― caek, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

curmudgeon's prerogative

― aarrissi-a-roni, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:19 (fifteen years ago)

ilf totally more worthy than lol ilwwe. me doing a thread for each ppv that gets five answers, half of which are me getting annoyed that vince mcmahon is a racist <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< a board people would actually be interested in.

― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

Having just checked back I can excitingly report that there are already well over 2000 more posts on the 09/10 season thread than for the whole of last season

Hat tip to a hoy hoy I think

― Not a musician, but I thought of Justin Fashanu for some reason (DJ Mencap), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:33 (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban

aw shucks.

― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

they were all rubbish tho

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

well someone had to step up and stan for soccer in lower profile leagues like la liga and serie a

― aarrissi-a-roni, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:26 (fifteen years ago)

wel yeah i think it was a quota of 40% lolverpool, 20% headslap silvestre, 20% pictures of eboue and 20% trolling darragh and lj.

― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:27 (fifteen years ago)

oh changing our fucking story a wee bit now are we?

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)

???

― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:29 (fifteen years ago)

'trolling' ya suuuure

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:31 (fifteen years ago)

ok i guess for the first half of the season it was in earnest but now bendtner is actually starting to live up to my hype...

― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:34 (fifteen years ago)

^ SB

― The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)

if we're talking plainly rubbish footballers in the midst of a mini-revival then bendtner isn't even top 3 for this season tbh

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:37 (fifteen years ago)

About that busking cat at Victoria station

Bloody hell, you've got a good memory. I can't even recall writing that.

― Michael Jones, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:37 (fifteen years ago)

I'm with Tom D on the anti ILS front, fight the good fight.

― The Man With the Magic Eardrums (Billy Dods), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:53 (fifteen years ago)

ILS=ILF, not the other ILF

― The Man With the Magic Eardrums (Billy Dods), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:53 (fifteen years ago)

I am opposed to any plans to create an I Love Football. Especially before the World Cup, which should be on ILE like it should be on terrestrial television.

― Matt DC, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:56 (fifteen years ago)

I Love ... Soccer ?

― Mark G, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:58 (fifteen years ago)

ok. those in favour- what board are we gonna start using as ILFootball?

I suppose 'The Church' would be fitting enough?

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:59 (fifteen years ago)

I don't care either way.

― he takes the account of everything in the universe into consideration (dan m), Friday, 26 March 2010 17:03 (fifteen years ago)

^ valuable football poster no hype

― mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 26 March 2010 17:05 (fifteen years ago)

Use ILNFL, I feel it would build greater harmony between nations.

― Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Friday, 26 March 2010 17:05 (fifteen years ago)

oh fucks sake it would go nuclear 2 threads in i reckon.

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 17:06 (fifteen years ago)

do it

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 17:06 (fifteen years ago)

nomination for first thread?

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 17:06 (fifteen years ago)

'Which stadium does the best pies?' All the Americans would get hugely confused and a big fight about food would ensue.

― Matt DC, Friday, 26 March 2010 17:07 (fifteen years ago)

Starting with "What is pie?"

― Ask foreigners and they will tell you the gospel comes from America. (Laurel), Friday, 26 March 2010 17:08 (fifteen years ago)

Which lower league ground does the best pizza?

― mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 26 March 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

... as opposed "What is a pie?" OTM

― The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2010 17:10 (fifteen years ago)

Which lower league ground does the best fillet?

― The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2010 17:12 (fifteen years ago)

should i tip the gatekeep when i pass through the whirlyturn at my local football belodrome

― aarrissi-a-roni, Friday, 26 March 2010 17:13 (fifteen years ago)

"How much should you tip footballers?"

― Home Taping Is Killing Muzak (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 26 March 2010 17:38 (fifteen years ago)

Is supporting a team from the black country racist?

― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 26 March 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

I think I used to oppose this. I'm not fussed now that I use site new answers.

Maybe wait until the close season.

Unban Dom P for ILFootie.

― passing through the whirlyturn (onimo), Friday, 26 March 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

btw let's not do this on 'The Church', upon mature reflection. there was a lot of bad feeling at the time about the board, zing crew overlap a little with footy heads, why mess up their board, etc etc etc

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 18:46 (fifteen years ago)

also i'm still permabanned from the church but that's by the by

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Friday, 26 March 2010 18:46 (fifteen years ago)

Unban Dom P for ILFootie

^ this

― ailsa, Friday, 26 March 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, enough is ENOUGH

― MPx4A, Friday, 26 March 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

No one on the current moderation team, including the people who maintain the code base, are ever going to unban Dom.

― ALLAH! *rolls on floor* (HI DERE), Friday, 26 March 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

surely if there were an ILF, tho

― he takes the account of everything in the universe into consideration (dan m), Friday, 26 March 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

Out of interest, what did he do to incur the wrath of so many? I seemed to miss whatever it was entirely.

― Home Taping Is Killing Muzak (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 26 March 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

It was equal parts being an abusive, bullying poster and posting enough slanderous remarks about people outside of ILX to generate multiple legal complaints directed towards the moderators and programmers.

― ALLAH! *rolls on floor* (HI DERE), Friday, 26 March 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

it's almost as if one could expect dom to post a slanderous remark on his facebook in response to this thread

― Violent (J0rdan S.), Friday, 26 March 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

The scamp

― Home Taping Is Killing Muzak (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 26 March 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

it's almost as if one could expect dom to post a slanderous remark on his facebook in response to this thread

I assume Dom has more of a life than this.

― ALLAH! *rolls on floor* (HI DERE), Friday, 26 March 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

you would be surprised

― Violent (J0rdan S.), Friday, 26 March 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

Well, that's his problem and not mine.

― ALLAH! *rolls on floor* (HI DERE), Friday, 26 March 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/mike_tyson_punchout_scarf.jpg

― Mr. Que, Friday, 26 March 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

unban darraghmac from ~~The Church~~I Love Footie

― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 March 2010 11:11 (fifteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

fyi, there is an i love football and it is pretty great even if you merely like football.

Come on over, ile. We don't mean it when we bite.

― Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 12:12 (fourteen years ago)

five months pass...

just curious really, but why are there still football threads on ile if they have their own board now? like i keep seeing Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12 and wondering if somehow i'm getting ILF on new answers.

― Mordy, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:59 (fourteen years ago)

that thread was left there as it's the most popular monolithical thread dealing with day-to-day football matters

ilf has more localised/specialised threads

You might see the odd movie thread on ile, it's that kind of thing.

When the world cup comes round again, i'd imagine the rolling thread will be on ile and not ilf, that kind of reasoning

― Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)

oh, some of that thread's regulars were against ilf as balkanisation, so that was another reason to leave that one on ile

― Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:07 (fourteen years ago)

two years pass...

Should ilf consider moving to another site

― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:47 (twelve years ago)

The window closed on Monday

― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 September 2013 06:35 (twelve years ago)

What are you thinking another site would do for you, Darragh?

― Tim, Thursday, 5 September 2013 06:49 (twelve years ago)

Distance

― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 September 2013 10:58 (twelve years ago)

Are you not feeling loved on your current messageboard? Have new posters stolen your thunder? Do you need to feel cherished? Arsene loves you, Darraghmac. Arsene will fix it.

― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 5 September 2013 11:00 (twelve years ago)

I don't really see the need for a move, I don't post on ILX enough to care about what else goes on here.

― Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 September 2013 11:01 (twelve years ago)

Is this serious? What's happened, what have you done.

― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 September 2013 11:08 (twelve years ago)

SM I will always love ilx but i gots to get paid and win some trophies you will have understood

― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 September 2013 11:10 (twelve years ago)

So what you're saying is you want us to move ILF because you have no self-control?

― Matt DC, Thursday, 5 September 2013 11:15 (twelve years ago)

Rename it "I Love Cleaning Windows"

― Mark G, Thursday, 5 September 2013 11:16 (twelve years ago)

This isnt about my first touch matt

― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 September 2013 11:23 (twelve years ago)

*post tdd blues*

― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 September 2013 11:24 (twelve years ago)

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