your favorite american films of the past 50 years with female protagonists

it occurs to me that there nearly aren't enough great american films with female protagonists -- or maybe i am just not good at thinking of them. so i hand it over to you.

iron man 2

You're right, it's pretty hard to think of really good American movies with female protagonists, especially if you exclude ones which have female and male protagonists that are given equal emphasis. In fact I can't think of any such American movie that I really love. I wanted to say Mary Poppins, but you could easily argue Dick van Dyke and the family dad are also protagonists in that one. Maybe also Lilo & Stitch? It has three protagonists: a little girl, her grown-up sister, and an alien, though the alien is clearly coded as male, even if we don't find out its technical gender (or if it even has one).

Oh, I forgot about Clueless and Legally Blonde. Those are great movies!

the last seduction
3 women
carrie
gloria
daughter rite
romy and michele's high school reunion

especially if you exclude ones which have female and male protagonists that are given equal emphasis

yeah, a problem is that plenty of romantic movies have twin protagonists, like before sunrise or while you were sleeping etc.

or valley girl!

I remember really liking The Incredibly True Adventures of Two Girls in Love, but I haven't seen it since it came out.

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kill bill

Fargo, Broadcast News, Rosemary's Baby, Carrie, Heart Like a Wheel...I'm sure others will occur to me throughout the day.

opening night

ALIENS

silence of the lambs

kill bill 2

Angel, Angel, Down We Go
The Birds
Boom!
Bound
Bunny Lake is Missing
Bye Bye Birdie
A Chronicle of Corpses
Crazy in Alabama
Dead Ringer
Desperate Living
Down With Love
Far From Heaven
Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!
Hairspray (John Waters 1988)
The Honeymoon Killers
Housekeeping
Illusions (Julie Dash 1980)
Inland Empire
Klute
The Legend of Lylah Clare
Love Streams
Marnie
Mary (Abel Ferrara 2005)
Mildred Pierce (Todd Haynes 2011)
Mulholland Drive
The Naked Kiss
Petulia
Queen of Diamonds
Red Line 7000
Roof (Betsy Kalin 1998)
Ruby in Paradise
'R Xmas
7 Women
Safe
Secret Ceremony
Sextette
Showgirls
Sleepwalk
S.O.B.
Such Good Friends
The Tamarind Seed
Wanda
When Pigs Fly
White Dog
Women of the Night (Zalman King 2000)
Xanadu
You Are Not I

Oh and duh Mommie Dearest

All my favourites are high school mean girl flicks: Heathers, Jawbreaker, Saved!, Easy A, and of course, Mean Girls.

is this gonna be the next poll?

also -- a woman under the influence, hannah and her sisters and gloria

KJB otm.

Jane Campion's The Portrait of a Lady

The Company

margaret

bridesmaids

Thelma & Louise
The Long Kiss Goodnight
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Josie & The Pussycats
Charlie's Angels
Sucker Punch

Contact
Salt
The Others

Following are not actually my favourites:
Erin Brockivich
Steel Magnolias
Mystic Pizza
GI Jane
Blue Steel
Monster
Girl, Interrupted
Stepmom
Private Benjamin
The Devil Wears Prada
The Hours
Sister Act

seconding KJB on Housekeeping

Thirded.

Technically, thirded and fourthed. I seconded the list en masse.

Bonjour Tristesse
Erin Brockovich
3 Women

An Unmarried Woman and (combination '70s sap/Neil Young fan--pretty iffy otherwise) Diary of a Mad Housewife.

Resident Evil

Terminator
Alien
Aliens
Halloween
Ms. 45

Ms. 45

Yes + Serial Mom.

And Jackie Brown.

But, yeah, among recent movies in which female protagonists don't kill people or narrowly avoid being killed by people, I definitely enjoy The Company, Ghost World and The Bridges of Madison County.

the private lives of pippa lee isnt my fav or anything @ all, it's ok, but i do remember thinking @ the time i saw it that it was a dream, meaty role for an adult woman

also, ones i like

looking for mr. goodbar
the runaways
carrie

>S.O.B.

i watched this like last week. don't mean to nitpick but julie andrews def has less screentime than prob like 4 other characters

Ladies and Gentleman, the Fabulous Stains (on the female protagonists not killing or avoiding being killed tip)

Heavenly Creatures

Although I guess that's New Zealand so nevermind

the alien is clearly coded as male, even if we don't find out its technical gender

i was skimming and i assumed tuomas was talking about a very different movie to the one he was talking about

Ghost World

Oh gawd yeah. How could I forget that one?

More: Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, Vixen, Viva, Marci X, Desperate Teenage Lovedolls, Daughters of the Dust, The Swap, [/i]Sin in the Suburbs[/i], Moonlighting Wives, The Rats Are Coming! The Werewolves Are Here!, Seeds of Sin, Fleshpot on 42nd Street, Bad Girls Go to Hell, etc.

I left out films in which strong female protagonists are played by men (Pink Flamingos, Female Trouble, Dinah East, maybe She-Man) and vice versa (I'm Not There, a stretch anyway and I'm blanking on others...does She-Man fit in here?).

Also, "protagonist" doesn't make much sense in the avant-garde but women directors sure do: Peggy Ahwesh, Stephanie Barber, Abigail Child, Leslie Thornton, Beth B, Su Friedrich, etc.

switchblade sisters
caged heat

S.O.B.

i watched this like last week. don't mean to nitpick but julie andrews def has less screentime than prob like 4 other characters

Yawn. I knew that would happen. Ok true. But her brazooms set everything in motion. And Bunny Lake is Missing was shot in England and co-stars Olivier. But Carol Lynley is American. And so is Preminger (but is he?). And so on.

Alan Rudolph's Mortal Thoughts (Demi Moore's career justified)

I liked all of these to varying degrees, IIRC:

The Birds
Rosemary's Baby
A Woman Under the Influence
Carrie
Another Woman
Silence of the Lambs
The Man in the Moon (1991)
Reality Bites
To Die For
Clueless
Safe
Welcome to the Dollhouse
I Shot Andy Warhol
Bound
Contact
Romy and Michele's High School Reunion
Jackie Brown
High Art
The Last Days of Disco
Slums of Beverly Hills
Boys Don't Cry
Dick
Erin Brockovich
Nurse Betty
Ghost World
The Good Girl
Far from Heaven
Monster
The Company
Kill Bill v. 1 and 2
Mean Girls
Million Dollar Baby
Juno
Rachel Getting Married
Wendy and Lucy
Frozen River
Precious: Based on the Novel "Push" by Sapphire
Winter's Bone
Whip It
Black Swan
Please Give
Bridesmaids
Margaret
Martha Marcy May Marlene

Yes on Looking for Mr. Goodbar. I thought about Jackie Brown, but it seems to be as much or more about Sam Jackson and Robert Forster. But you could probably say the same of Broadcast News.

Freeway
Election

thanks for reminding me about High Art and Please Give, jaymc.

KJB's list is super OH YEAH time
nice work!

Also if they haven't been mentioned yet

Valley of the Dolls
Beyond the Valley of the Dolls

Satisfaction
Little Darlings
Foxes

Where the Boys Are (is that 50 years ago or not?)

Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore

Gas Food Lodging

I should just slow down and make a list like a normal person.

Badlands
Out Of The Blue
Carnival Of Souls

Have there been any westerns yet?

Meek's Cutoff, not having seen Raquel Welch in Hannie Caulder

The Quick and the Dead is super entertaining but is still pretty bad. xp

Woody Allen's best femalecentric films (ie, w/out him in the cast) might be The Purple Rose of Cairo and Another Woman.

Glitter

oh duh -- Sayles' Passion Fish w/ a pair of great performances by Alfre Woodard and Mary McDonnell, virtually in every scene together.

(guess which one got an Oscar nomination)

Sisters

I know it's not the same thing, but I think the lead females in Nashville--Blakely, Tomlin, Baxley, Gwen Wells, etc.--are among the most interesting in any American film ever.

Passion Fish is the only Sayles I like...

yeah, passion fish is great. i should rewatch that.

Working Girls
Working Girl

The Bridges o' Madison County

Heartland
The Trip to Bountiful

lol you like old lady movies!

killing people movies, but

ginger snaps
the descent

liquid sky

I would always walk into the video store, ask "Where the old lady movies? Passage to India? Naw, naw, seen that one already."

nine to five

all of me

Married to the Mob

crimes of passion

The Incredible Shrinking Woman

is michelle pfeiffer really the protagonist of married to the mob?

yes

Riding in Cars With Boys

Drew Barrymore is kind of amazing in it (as is Steve Zahn, but it's not about him).

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OK, here we go listing every piece of shit w/ female protagonists

I thought it was about favorites. Satisfaction is a total piece of shit, but I LOVE IT.

I just couldn't resist a three-women-in-a-barrel poster.

feel like Tarantino has been really conscientious about this:

Jackie Brown
Kill Bill
Inglorious Basterds

Fargo, obviously

Ward OTM re: 3 Women and Carrie, two of my favorites

The Sterile Cuckoo's good, though slight; also, Rachel, Rachel.

Cabaret
I'm Dancing As Fast As I Can
They Shoot Horses, Don't They

I'm kind of feeling like the exclusion criteria should be extended... Solely female protagonists (no male/female romance, no mixed ensemble), no 'girls about to be killed', nothing solely based on their psychological damage (that one's more tricky, but I look at a load of these and I just see 'women as victims' as strongly as you do with the about-to-die horror girl). And I'm certainly not saying that male protagonists never get these roles, they just get other roles too...

And I'm not saying those roles are always bad roles, or in bad films, or anything. I mean, most of my favourite films are about psychologically damaged protagonists... argh, I don't know. Whatever.

oh duh -- Sayles' Passion Fish w/ a pair of great performances by Alfre Woodard and Mary McDonnell, virtually in every scene together.

I almost mentioned this before realizing that I remember virtually nothing about it.

I guess part of my problem is that I sometimes forget that there is a man there because all I remember about the movie is related to the women (Sisters, for example). I think Margot Kidder and Jennifer Salt are the stars of that movie. In fact, I don't remember the first thing about the man in Sisters aside from the fact that he was creepy.

tank girl

Solely female's tough for an American film (unlike, say, Bergman); even obvious choices like Wanda, or An Unmarried Woman, or Fargo prominently involve men.

Stillman's new one Damsels in Distress probably passes the Bedchel test.

eXistenZ

wait no one's said Alien yet? lol

Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore

was gonna say Heavenly Creatures but I guess that isn't American :(

Freeway

Election (more of an ensemble thing I guess but Witherspoon and the other female lead whose name escapes me get as much screentime as the male protagonists)

no one likes Thelma and Louise anymore? :(

I should watch it again. Haven't seen it in probably ten years.

Can't stand Thelma and Louise, I must say...

Palindromes - more leads than I can remember, but all female

we're seeing taste overlap

more leads than I can remember, but all female

One of those was a willowy boy.

d'oh! allright well 7 out of 8 were female

Go Fish

Oh, someone was talking about that recently - sounds good (or at least, it sounded good when I established in my head it wasn't terrible '90s Brit-flick Shooting Fish).

would you guys consider jeff daniels to be the clear protagonist of something wild? i would say yes, esp. because melanie griffith is such a proto-M.P.D.G.

awesome lists here, though i must cavil that bonjour tristesse is 1959 and some of the other movies listed are objectively awful ("monster"?!).

i guess i'd add some interesting exploitation items by stephanie rothman: the student nurses and the velvet vampire (particularly the latter).

poltergeist maybe fits in here too? maybe?

Little Darlings

^^^love this movie so much

Going with what emil.y's reply earlier, I do have a problem with a lot of these films' failure to pass the Bechdel test. And while I love A Woman Under the Influence & etc., they are films all about how bitches be crazy.

I'm seriously blanking on my favorite American titles though. All I can think of right now are European films--they tend to play with the limits of female protagonists more broadly. The Dutch film A Question of Silence, for example, tackles the intense emotional reactions of three women but further explores how this may be a reaction to systematic oppression vs. inherent craziness.

Monster is the Aileen Wuornos bio, rather than any other film of the same name (or Monster's Ball, for that matter). I haven't seen it, but a lot of people seemed to like it.

they are films all about how bitches be crazy

To be fair, most of the movies not listed itt are about how men be idiots.

Monster is so ridiculously terrible, the original Broomfield docs are infinitely superior

I'm assuming from it's not being mentioned yet that To Kill A Mockingbird must have turned 50 recently...

You Can Count On Me

Um, ILX I know you hate Death Proof but DEATH PROOF

and it passes the Bechdel with flying colors

so there

:D

that one has so many protagonists it's a bit of a grey area altho yeah it passes the Bechdel test...

My favorites would def be Death Proof, and True Grit, and To Kill a Mockingbird. Oh, and Beetlejuice.

True Grit apparently passes the Bechdel on a technicality bcs of the Boarding House lady which seems kinda weird, but for me the richness of Mattie's character outweighs my need for more than one female protagonist, (also given the period setting etc)

and I secretly love the Wynona "Little Women" movie.

I secretly love the Wynona "Little Women" movie.

I don't even secretly love this movie, I just love it. I still hate Bhaer though.

this isn't factually true, but i felt like penelope spheeris was an underlying presence in the jackass movies.

Angela (Rebecca Miller's first film)
May

May! Good one.

add No Such Thing even though part of the Sarah Polley character was a little bit meek and dull, the other part was not.

some of the other movies listed are objectively awful ("monster"?!)

The way I approached this was to consult my .xls of every movie I've seen since 1992 and jot down all the ones that met the requirements. After doing so, I deleted the ones I disliked or didn't remember enough about to say one way or another. I'm in no position to defend Monster, but I recall not hating it.

rambling rose

outrage & not wanted, both by ida lupino

I secretly love the Wynona "Little Women" movie.

I don't even secretly love this movie, I just love it. I still hate Bhaer though.

― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:35 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i love this one too

everyone just seemed so perfectly cast

no shame in loving that movie -- it's good! Susan Sarandon was the only one who looked too modern (and portended sexless roles).

would you guys consider jeff daniels to be the clear protagonist of something wild?

Yes; the most interesting character, not at all. It's like American Graffiti: Candy Clark, Mackenzie Phillips, and Cindy Williams are so much more interesting than almost all the male characters.

Alien's an even worse fit than Aliens - Ripley is just one of the big cast, she doesn't become the most interesting until she's the only one left.

she is, however, the protagonist when all is said and done. the movie just takes its time making that clear. i'd say it counts.

xspost Alfred, yeah that's true...I'll give her a pass though because even her regular speaking voice is just so perfectly Marmee, at least to me. It's totally how she sounded in my head all those years!

times square

dang, a lot of the movies i wanted to mention (foxes, the runaways, switchblade sisters) are already up here

if anything in the alien franchise emphasizes the female POV more than others it's probably alien:resurrection.

i actually kind of like that movie.

'little women' is rly good -- winona's last good role (and film), probably.

lol remember when she scored two consecutive Oscar nominations

'little women' is rly good -- winona's last good role (and film), probably.

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, May 3, 2012 3:31 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that reminds me, is winona the protagonist of edward scissorhands? or beetlejuice for that matter?

(i'd humbly suggest that E.S. has dual protagonists, and actually re. beetlejuice i have no idea. is it alec baldwin and geena davis, alec and winona, or just alec?)

good god how crushworthy was winona in those days?

i thought she was rather good in black swan, she's still got it in her, just please stop making her play stupid girlfriend roles!

One of these Halloweens I'm going to get my shit together and do a Lydia/Beetlejuice costume

oh man a couple with lydia and beetlejuice costumes would be off the charts. actually winona+dress + johnny depp from edward scissorhands would be nifty too.

Nah, Edward himself is the protagonist, she's the leading lady.

Beetlejuice is an ensemble piece, mostly led by Winona and Michael Keaton, surely?

xposts

i thought she was rather good in black swan, she's still got it in her, just please stop making her play stupid girlfriend roles!

― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, May 3, 2012 4:08 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah her role in that vince vaughan/king of queens comedy was likewise a kind of harsh meta-assessment of winona's waning fortunes.

Nah, Edward himself is the protagonist, she's the leading lady.

really? doesn't she probably has as much screen time??

It's not about screen-time, though - the mother (forgotten her name) has as much screen-time, too. It's about how the story is presented, who the story belongs to, how the characterisation works...

(what the cinema ticket in your hand reads)

It's not about screen-time, though - the mother (forgotten her name) has as much screen-time, too. It's about how the story is presented, who the story belongs to, how the characterisation works...

― emil.y, Thursday, May 3, 2012 4:14 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

right, i know. in my memory winona's goals are of equal importance, but i haven't seen it in years, so you're probably right.

The Virgin Suicides? Lux is basically the protagonist, but it's also all five sisters as remembered by the teenage boys who worshipped them. So I'm not sure if it counts.

There were a couple I dithered on because of uncertainty about how "American" they were. E.g., A Soldier's Daughter Never Cries or Maria Full of Grace.

or emma, i guess.

i think monster is pretty good

There were a couple I dithered on because of uncertainty about how "American" they were. E.g., A Soldier's Daughter Never Cries or Maria Full of Grace.

― sockless in moccasins (jaymc), Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:20 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark

someone mentioned eXistenZ, which i think of as totally canadian

The Virgin Suicides? Lux is basically the protagonist, but it's also all five sisters as remembered by the teenage boys who worshipped them. So I'm not sure if it counts.

― clemenza, Thursday, May 3, 2012 6:07 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm not sure the virgin suicides is even really "about" the sisters at all, which i guess is kind of the point

well, it's about perceiving them, but also about their sense of existing in the perception of others, so

it's about them as objects and not characters. they may be at the center of the story but that center is a void. idk

may be overstating things tho, it's been a long time since i've seen it

I think you're both right...which is why I wasn't sure if it belonged or not.

Ones I liked (to varying degrees) that haven't been mentioned...

Young Adult
Citizen Ruth
Haywire
Strangers With Candy
Waitress
and, um, Dreamgirls?

Has anyone said Juno yet? Or Whip It?

Getting laid and abandoned by Josh Hartnett on the 50-yd line? Doesn't that disqualify Virgin Suicides by these Bechdel Criteria I seem to have missed?

(I assume it's the graphic novelist Bechdel, whose big book I actually read)

Sofia Coppola's protagonist women are interesting and perhaps debatable cases, true, but i would still call them protagonists in Lost in Translation and Marie Antoinette. and i really like those films.

actually, now that i really think about it, not debatable, def protagonist

Hanna also rad

and btw Ginger Snaps is Canadian!
^ patriotic duty done for the day

Morbius: the Bechdel Test

oops, i want to expand the criteria to include canada then, cuz ginger snaps is great

so's hanna, can't believe i forgot that one

A Question of Silence, for example, tackles the intense emotional reactions of three women

Nobody's mentioned "3 Women" yet! Where are the Altman stans?

it has been

Has anyone said Juno yet? Or Whip It?

I mentioned both.

haha I totally read Morbius: the Bechdel Test as the title of an imagined film.

xxxxxpost Ah, so it has. I knew it was unlikely to have been missed (except by me obv.)

the end result of this thread is gonna be another poll, amirite?!?

Nobody's mentioned "3 Women" yet! Where are the Altman stans?

― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, May 3, 2012 11:32 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's one of his worst movies, though (IMO).

Blue Car is really good.

It's interesting to note that many of these movies fail to pass the Bechdel test... I think one reason I had a hard time coming up with good examples was because I was unconsciously excluding movies that don't pass.

The thread premise is 'with female protagonists' tho, not 'which pass the Bechdel test'.

haha I totally read Morbius: the Bechdel Test as the title of an imagined film.

Call yr contacts at Marvel. I'll have my treatment ready by monday.

the Runaways! def passes the Bechdel test

I'd like the Runaways a whole lot more if it had nothing to do with the Runaways and was just a throwaway movie about a fictional girlband

Anyway, the Bechdel test is an interesting exercise to look at the state of women in movies in general, but isn't very useful in assessing individual movies, IMO.

yeah i agree with that.

otm

Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, nor is the 'female protagonist' thing, without a list of criteria... Though asking for favourites does make it a slightly different exercise.

Where are the Altman stans?

The only movie I mentioned was an Altman! Even though most of his films featured ensembles where few individuals really stood out above the pack, he generally made good use of female protagonists. He was a very female-friendly director (in many senses).

No one likes Terms of Endearment?

prefer Steel Magnolias

love terms of endearment

I really like Nicole Holofcener's movies, Lovely & Amazing and Friends With Money. Both are largely populated by female protagonists and both pass the Bechdel test (according to bechdeltest.com).

Bring it On!

dug friends with money, haven't seen lovely & amazing. have meant to forever, just never got around to it.

Walking and Talking is my favorite of hers

walking and talking and please give are the best holofceners imo; walking and talking is my fave, too.

Anyway, the Bechdel test is an interesting exercise to look at the state of women in movies in general, but isn't very useful in assessing individual movies, IMO.

― MrDasher, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:57 (3 hours ago) Permalink

yeah, it's idiotic as some kind of litmus test for watching/appreciating individual films but thinking about it gives you a sense of hollywood's generally sexist orientation.

Nobody's mentioned "3 Women"

I mentioned it yesterday morning

disagree w/r/t hollywood -- hollywood's sexism is evidenced by gender disparity in high-power/high-pay jobs. the actual product is pretty much audience-driven.

thanks for making me Google the "Bechdel test"

disagree w/r/t hollywood -- hollywood's sexism is evidenced by gender disparity in high-power/high-pay jobs. the actual product is pretty much audience-driven.

― Philip Nunez, Friday, May 4, 2012 3:09 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

which doesn't mean it's immune from dysfunctional attitudes on gender!

Nobody's mentioned "3 Women"

I mentioned it yesterday morning

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

And morbs mentioned that you mentioned it last night!

i'm gonna mention it again just in case: 3 women.

"which doesn't mean it's immune from dysfunctional attitudes on gender!"
it ... sort of is! having no principles w/r/t making money means that the only barrier is the audience's willingness to pay for it.

i mean, mel gibson got his foreign-language torture movies made because enough people wanted to see it, jesus!

"which doesn't mean it's immune from dysfunctional attitudes on gender!"
it ... sort of is! having no principles w/r/t making money means that the only barrier is the audience's willingness to pay for it.

― Philip Nunez, Friday, May 4, 2012 3:26 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

but... i don't follow.

What, is this a poll or a listing?

1. Aliens
2. Alien
3. Heathers

"but... i don't follow."
what i mean is that the sexism in hollywood that puts a glass ceiling on, say, a woman wanting to become a director or producer wouldn't stop a movie with two or more female characters talking about stuff getting made, provided it could make a lot of money.

You're assuming that hollywood has a crystal ball that shows it what people want - the evidence here is shaky to say the least.

It's not so much a crystal ball as simply thinking "people like Julia Roberts/Cameron Diaz/Kate Hudson/Anne Hathaway etc., so let's develop stuff for them."

the fact that hollywood doesn't have a crystal ball makes them that much more likely to embrace a non-sexist formula movie if one were shown to be highly profitable. like if elfquest starring naomi klein as capt. nologo made $200million, there'd be nothing but non-sexist, socially progressive elf movies forever.

dare to dream

so where are all the Bridesmaids knockoffs btw

aren't there like 2 or 3 already in the pipeline?

panic room

is carnival of souls too old to make the cutoff?

no ones mentioned the travelling pants movies fyi

havent seen them but the protagonists are female pants i hear

so where are all the Bridesmaids knockoffs btw

Bridesmaids was retrograde and shallow too so no worries

But it had an Irish leading male!

It's not so much a crystal ball as simply thinking "people like Julia Roberts/Cameron Diaz/Kate Hudson/Anne Hathaway etc., so let's develop stuff for them."

Not so much, seemingly: http://jezebel.com/5907744/the-truth-about-women-and-hollywood-these-actresses-theyre-fucked-good-luck-to-kate-and-reese