the William Friedkin poll

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From Sonny & Cher and Pinter to the freaky, energetic twin Letts adaptations. Pretty varied career. Lots of great stuff here, some trash, ad a whole lot I've yet to see (including TLADILA). I've omitted the TV stuff.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
To Live and Die In LA (1985) 16
The French Connection (1971) 12
The Exorcist (1973) 10
Cruising (1980) 4
Good Times (1967) 3
Sorcerer (1977) 1
The Boys in the Band (1970) 1
The Birthday Party (1968) 1
The Hunted (2003) 0
Bug (2010) 0
Rules of Engagement (2000) 0
Jade (1995) 0
Blue Chips (1994) 0
The Guardian (1990) 0
Rampage (1987, released 1992) 0
Deal of the Century (1983) 0
The Brink's Job (1978) 0
The Night They Raided Minsky's (1968) 0
Killer Joe (2012) 0


Simon H., Saturday, 14 July 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

To Live and Die in L.A. is a must-see. Totally morally fucked, really well shot (in a super '80s style that's even better than Michael Mann's) and Willem Dafoe does great early arch-villain work. I also love Cruising and Sorcerer, and The Hunted and Bug were both surprisingly strong. Wish Sorcerer would get a decent DVD release.

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 14 July 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

I liked Bug a lot; not entirely sure what to make of Killer Joe, but I laughed a lot, so that's something.

Simon H., Saturday, 14 July 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

I voted for The Exorcist, which I suspect is too obvious to win this. I like The French Connection, but I never felt compelled to see it a second time. Ditto To Live and Die in L.A. Haven't more than half of what's listed.

clemenza, Saturday, 14 July 2012 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

seen Connection, Exorcist, Cruising, LA, The Guardian, Blue Chips and Jade - prolly voting LA

da croupier, Saturday, 14 July 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

I've seen 4 of his first 5 films, then nothing but TL&DiLA and Bug.

Would probably vote for The French Connection (despite the queasy bigot appeal) or the Pinter or Crowley adaps.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

ISTR Rampage being some real bullshit but have only seen it the once, so whatever. Still haven't seen Sorcerer.

Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

there's several movies I like a bit here but the Exorcist is the best of them by a very long distance.

perry en concrète (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 14 July 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

xxxp Crowley, John or Crowley, Aleister? If the former, it sounds like theres a Friedkin film I need to track down.

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 14 July 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

Mart

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 14 July 2012 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

to live and die in l.a. is incoherent nonsense and i am literally amazed it was taken seriously.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 14 July 2012 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

no way 'bug' came out in 2010

johnny crunch, Saturday, 14 July 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

& 'killer joe' is out in 2 wks it looks like

johnny crunch, Saturday, 14 July 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

whoops yeah Bug was '06.

Simon H., Sunday, 15 July 2012 00:03 (thirteen years ago)

and yeah I timed the poll so that interested parties might have time to check that one out.

Simon H., Sunday, 15 July 2012 00:07 (thirteen years ago)

was tempted by a few lol votes but gotta go with French Connection, its almost unfair how good it is

really wanna see Killer Joe, even tho I wasn't too high on Bug

Black_vegeta (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 15 July 2012 00:14 (thirteen years ago)

Just finished re-watching The Hunted. If your collection of Manly Man Movies doesn't include this DVD, your collection is incomplete. Tommy Lee Jones makes a stone knife like a caveman! Benicio del Toro makes a knife out of an iron bar! Then they fight!

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:41 (thirteen years ago)

https://twitter.com/WilliamFriedkin/status/214143633874616320

Hungry4Ass, Friday, 27 July 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

to live and die in la is a masterpiece (r wood offers a gd critique of it, somewhere or other, and of course wood locks onto the many scenes/images throughout the film of money being forged/duplicated/circulated.)

iirc, friedkin issued Rampage in two different versions - the first, anti-death penalty, later revised to be pro-death pen?

Ward Fowler, Friday, 27 July 2012 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

Deal of the Century is a 1983 American comedy film directed by William Friedkin and starring Chevy Chase, Gregory Hines, and Sigourney Weaver.

The film follows the adventures of several arms dealers that compete to sell weapons to a South American dictator

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 July 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

after years of asking I've literally met no one who's seen this.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 July 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

so theyre releasing killer joe nc-17 huh? only open in ny this wk & a handful of other cities next wkend

johnny crunch, Friday, 27 July 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

missed a chance to see Killer Joe, plus Friedkin, Big Mac and Gershon @ LincCtr the other night!

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2012 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

after years of asking I've literally met no one who's seen this.

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, July 27, 2012 4:52 PM (2 hours ago)

really? for a time it was one of those on-HBO-every-15-minutes movies

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Friday, 27 July 2012 23:02 (thirteen years ago)

morbs you've never seen cruising?

moesha my reflection (donna rouge), Friday, 27 July 2012 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

as much as I love TLADILA I've gotta go with the exorcist, it's his batshit piece de resistance

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Friday, 27 July 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

I have not seen Cruising. No one said it was any good til about ten years ago, and I'm v suspicious of stuff like that.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2012 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

cruising's worth a watch imo. i dont know if i'd call it good but its pretty wild

Hungry4Ass, Friday, 27 July 2012 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

the clips I've seen from it make it look REALLY ridiculous ... otoh Germs on the sdtk

Dunn O)))))))) (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 27 July 2012 23:22 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, I don't like bad n' wild

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2012 23:22 (thirteen years ago)

cruising had got that particular brand of sleazy friedkin atmosphere and good momentum and it's hilarious as fukk, mostly unintentional.

omar little, Friday, 27 July 2012 23:22 (thirteen years ago)

Cruising is classic heteroporn.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:49 (thirteen years ago)

no wonder Eric likes it!

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:50 (thirteen years ago)

I saw that Cruising will be on streaming Netflix as of next week.

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:54 (thirteen years ago)

let's shsre a couple poppers and watch it

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:57 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLHdW2Znj9s

buzza, Saturday, 28 July 2012 01:17 (thirteen years ago)

cruising had got that particular brand of sleazy friedkin atmosphere and good momentum and it's hilarious as fukk, mostly unintentional.

― omar little, Friday, 27 July 2012 23:22 (Yesterday) Permalink

i saw cruising when it came out, pretty much remember it this way^^ emphasis on the unintended lols

voting French Connection

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Saturday, 28 July 2012 10:32 (thirteen years ago)

I have amazingly seen but two of these, so I voted for the Exorcist.

The New Dirty Vicar, Saturday, 28 July 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

Rewatching L.A. now. For being released at the height of Mann-dom it uses its splashes of orange and the Wang Chung soundtrack with real flair (Year of the Dragon it's not). And I'm a sucker for showing characters at work, doing things they love.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XDH3o5Wgs

da croupier, Monday, 6 August 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

david caruso does the best acting of his career in that car

da croupier, Monday, 6 August 2012 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

boy did Jade offend Roger and Gene.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

from imdb:

According to Joe Eszterhas's autobiography he hated the final film. Director William Friedkin changed Eszterhas's script so much, he threatened to remove his name from the credits. Paramount settled with him by giving him a "blind script deal" worth two to four Million Dollars. Later, Friedkin admitted that he did virtually rewrote the script, but Friedkin also said that this film was his most favorite film he had ever made.

da croupier, Monday, 6 August 2012 23:44 (thirteen years ago)

that are interesting grammar

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

Lew Edwards: I do the fucking, I never get fucked!

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da croupier, Monday, 6 August 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

I've told you guys this before, but you all really need to read the original shooting script for Jade. The final 10 pages are among the funniest things I've ever read.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 02:36 (thirteen years ago)

David (to Edwards): If anything happens to her, I have a roll of film of you and a dead hooker.

Governor Edwards: What if something happens to you?

David: Something is going to happen to me. (he smiles) I'm going to run for mayor next year.

Governor Edwards: Well sir-- you've got my endorsement

David looks at him-- it's his turn to smirk.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 02:40 (thirteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 10 August 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

looks like 'killer joe' is going much wider 2morrow. the bow tie cinema near me is getting it

johnny crunch, Friday, 10 August 2012 00:35 (thirteen years ago)

Shoulda made the poll close about a week later. Oh, well. Can't imagine it garnering many votes, but it's def one of the more distinctive and entertaining flicks I've seen this year.

Simon H., Friday, 10 August 2012 02:24 (thirteen years ago)

tarantino included sorcerer in his sight and sound top ten

Ward Fowler, Friday, 10 August 2012 08:01 (thirteen years ago)

Heard a short interview excerpt with Friedkin on the radio yesterday. He's so earnest about The Exorcist--he insists that he and Blatty did not set out to make a horror film, but rather a film about "the mystery of faith." It's okay, Bill; those of us who love The Exorcist won't think any less of it if you admit to some avarice. I don't recall any rotating heads in Winter Light or Diary of a Country Priest.

clemenza, Friday, 10 August 2012 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

dreyer's ordet was def a p big influence on the exorcist, tho (there's even a praiseblurb from friedkin on my region 2 dvd of ordet):

http://www.jonathanrosenbaum.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/ordet2.jpg

http://i1.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/590/draft_lens18360125module152558409photo_1313869882Two_priest_excorsing_rega

Ward Fowler, Friday, 10 August 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

Nice pairing. The early-'70s Americans did know film history, so I don't doubt that. He should at least split the difference: "We wanted to cross Carl Dreyer with Herschell Gordon Lewis. We maybe veered a little more in the Lewis direction."

clemenza, Friday, 10 August 2012 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 11 August 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

between the 2 birthday parties, I took Pinter's. Not really burning to ever see The Exorcist.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 August 2012 00:49 (thirteen years ago)

it's pretty good, but it's no Sorcerer

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 11 August 2012 01:38 (thirteen years ago)

Ellen Burstyn is pretty fantastic in The Exorcist, tho, if you like that type of performance.

Eric H., Saturday, 11 August 2012 02:40 (thirteen years ago)

'killer joe' was kinda good imo, caught me off guard
some issues w/ plotting & it has no idea how to transition btwn scenes but still~
respekt for its ott-ness, p funny in parts;
characters are @ least like 1.5 dimensional & mostly good acting

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

they shd use this quote on the posters

"Church, Gershon, and Hirsch portray a "uniformly gormless family unit"

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

haha only in ILX!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

great interview (spoilery abt 'killer joe' i guess so skip or skim certain parts if need be):

http://mubi.com/notebook/posts/the-crooked-timber-a-conversation-with-william-friedkin

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 01:31 (thirteen years ago)

I saw Killer Joe today expecting not all that much and I thought it was kind of...awesome.

Aceveda (admrl), Saturday, 18 August 2012 05:22 (thirteen years ago)

Thomas Haden Church in particular was excellent. Struggling to think what else I really remember him from, but he was great in this.

Aceveda (admrl), Saturday, 18 August 2012 05:26 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i thought it was fantastic

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 18 August 2012 05:34 (thirteen years ago)

Church was in Sideways and the last Tobey Maguire Spider Man.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 August 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

First post I ever had on here, seven years ago under my own name, had to do with the unfortunate certainty that Church wouldn't win supporting actor for Sideways.

In Anticipation of Morgan Freeman Beating Thomas Haden Church

clemenza, Saturday, 18 August 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

this might be my fav movie of the year

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 18 August 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

okay watched TLADILA cuz of this poll and and lol, great-looking and ultimately very silly movie but very fun

all the randomly homoerotic swearing just cracked me up

Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

you pullin my dick?
your taste is in your ass!
etc

by the end we were just making up our own sweary action movie lines

Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

now who's stuck wearin the fuck hat

Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

lol

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

can we get Sorcerer on bluray plz? IIRC the DVD is pan&scan!

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 20 August 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

oh my god, what a clusterfuck

http://www.deadline.com/2012/04/william-friedkin-takes-paramount-universal-to-court-over-%E2%80%98sorcerer%E2%80%99/

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 20 August 2012 18:16 (thirteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

Bug (2010) 0

underrated

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 September 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

four months pass...

didn't think a whole helluva lot of Killer Joe, tho Mac and Juno Temple have good moments. A lot of it is awfully familiar amid the flesh and splatter.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 12:18 (twelve years ago)

oh, and Thomas Haden Church gets some good laughs. Temple and Emile Hirsch miscast tho.

big transgressive chicken scene is just vicious and unenlightening.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 15:39 (twelve years ago)

unenlightening

You're running out of words to hide your latent moral disapproval over people getting off on naughty cinema.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 15:48 (twelve years ago)

howbout "pointless"

I like getting off as much as anyone, but movies gen don't do that for me.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 15:50 (twelve years ago)

Maybe if you had a popcorn box handy.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:08 (twelve years ago)

he claims Sorcerer BR is coming, and is flummoxed by unmedicated aspect-ratio blogger Jeff Wells.

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2013/02/sorcerer.php

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 19:40 (twelve years ago)

I used to be a licensed theatrical projectionist so don't tell me.

Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 19:51 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

more details on Sorcerer reissue / dvd

http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/william-friedkins-misunderstood-1977-sorcerer-getting-re-release-exclusive-81966

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 March 2013 00:34 (twelve years ago)

"...as he recounts in his upcoming memoir 'The Friedkin Connection,' the release of 'Star Wars' that same year made it a film out of time and place.

'The zeitgeist had changed by the time it came out,' Friedkin said."

I'm looking forward to this (never seen it), but that seems like a rather self-serving simplification. My distinct memory--I was 15 at the time--was that there was a certain amount of confusion created by the title and the marketing; people were expecting another horror film, and there was some backlash when it turned out to be otherwise. It's not like Star Wars instantaneously killed interest in large-scale ambitious films. To name one obvious example, The Deer Hunter won awards and made back three or four times its cost a year later.

clemenza, Saturday, 23 March 2013 14:32 (twelve years ago)

yeah, i wrote that comment off as bullshit.

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 March 2013 15:12 (twelve years ago)

Friedkin tells a story in Easy Riders... about how Sorcerer was the film programmed directly after the initial engagement of Star Wars at Grauman's theatre (or some other landmark Hollywood place--I forget), which was like a week. The trailer for his film ran before all the SW screenings, and one evening he took his new bride Jeanne Moreau to see both. After the film was over, he talked to the manager, who told him that if Sorcerer didn't deliver the goods audience-wise when it opened, they would pull it in favor of more Star Wars screenings (it had sold out every show there thus far). Of course, Sorcerer didn't bring them in, and I think that whole experience has colored Friedkin's memories of the whole bloody affair.

Also, lol at this poster/flier

http://images.moviepostershop.com/sorcerer-movie-poster-1977-1010204873.jpg

Vol. 3: The Life & Times of E. "Boom" Carter (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 23 March 2013 18:22 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

Brooklyn retro, Boys in the Band through Cruising; two Q&As:

http://www.bam.org/film/2013/friedkin70s

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 April 2013 21:46 (twelve years ago)

has he ever directly addressed all the homoeroticism/homosexual themes in his movies

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 April 2013 22:00 (twelve years ago)

(I'm under the impression that he's straight correct me if I'm wrong)

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 April 2013 22:01 (twelve years ago)

friedkin is 87% full of shit but sorcerer is a great movie.

btw those last posts remind me of when someone asked david fincher about homoerotic elements of "fight club" and he got all mad and was like "what are you talking about bro?"

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 26 April 2013 22:05 (twelve years ago)

better to ask Chuck Palahniuk and his boyfriend mebbe

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 April 2013 22:06 (twelve years ago)

so that's a no then

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 April 2013 22:07 (twelve years ago)

I would think he'd be a little cooler about than Fincher, at least a couple of his films are explicitly about gay characters/culture and then there's all the wierd shit in things like To Live and Die in LA that seem pretty consciously thrown in there...

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 April 2013 22:08 (twelve years ago)

You could get quite fucked up playing a 'Hi Bob' game with the featurettes on the Cruising dvd. Your keywords: Friedkin saying "Leather Bar".

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 26 April 2013 22:10 (twelve years ago)

Friedkin writes in his book about Mart Crowley taking him to Fire Island before filming Boys in the Band so he could soak up the milieu. I think he's pretty hetero.

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 April 2013 22:13 (twelve years ago)

“Cruising,” was set in the clubs – not the gay clubs, but the S&M clubs, which many gay people had never seen – which to me was just an exotic background. By the time it came out, the gay liberation movement was very strong. And this sort of subject matter was not the best foot forward at that time. So I understood the protests, I really did. But I was not thinking, when I made the film, about how this would affect gay liberation or not. When you’re making a film, you don’t start to think of the social consequences, or whether there will be any. Now, that might have been nearsighted on my part. But that’s the way I felt.

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/29/i-thought-i-was-bulletproof-william-friedkin-looks-back-on-the-seventies/

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:30 (twelve years ago)

Sorcerer is a good, visceral spin on its great predecessor. There's one edit, involving the rope bridge in the poster, that I think is a bit of a cheat, but it's pretty gripping once he's done with the time-marking backstories (which are there to establish the principals as killers). And this might be Roy Scheider's best performance.

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 May 2013 03:55 (twelve years ago)

(It also felt very Peckinpah to me, then I saw in the credits that Walon Green of The Wild Bunch wrote it. Had no idea he's been busy with the various Law & Order series for the last 20 years.)

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 May 2013 03:58 (twelve years ago)

Still need to see that

Blue Yodel No. 9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 May 2013 04:06 (twelve years ago)

Adding to the Peckinpah thing: Friedkin approached Steve McQueen to play the Scheider part, but McQueen said no when Friedkin refused to add Ali McGraw into the deal as anything from actress to a bs "producer" credit.

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 May 2013 04:08 (twelve years ago)

he talked about that in the Q&A; said he still regrets not acceding to the demand (Mastroianni and Lino Ventura also dropped out).

choice quote: "I couldn't watch (Marvel's) The Avengers if it meant getting off double murder." (I clapped.)

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 May 2013 04:13 (twelve years ago)

director of jade has opinions

buzza, Friday, 3 May 2013 04:59 (twelve years ago)

he then said "It's not the film, it's me; I don't get it."

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 May 2013 05:17 (twelve years ago)

Saw tladila, liked tladila, placing it above french connection is lol

the norman wisdom of gaffers (darraghmac), Friday, 3 May 2013 08:35 (twelve years ago)

kinda agree darragh, and ive been a big tladila advocate around here

turds (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 3 May 2013 08:47 (twelve years ago)

I'd probably vote cruising if this was done again

turds (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 3 May 2013 08:53 (twelve years ago)

Sarris was def not a fan of Sorcerer

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1299&dat=19770718&id=5PZNAAAAIBAJ&sjid=OYsDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5900,1064206

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 May 2013 12:58 (twelve years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/04/nyregion/crime-scene-chasing-down-a-gps-blip-to-a-stolen-iphone.html

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 3 May 2013 20:37 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

“I honestly have never thought the idea that these were ‘gay movies made by a straight director.’”

http://flavorwire.com/394993/flavorwire-interview-william-friedkin-on-the-controversial-legacies-of-the-boys-in-the-band-and-cruising

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 18:14 (twelve years ago)

!!!
thx

Mr. Scarf Ace is Back (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 18:27 (twelve years ago)

Keep forgetting he made Blue Chips.

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 20:41 (twelve years ago)

He should have stuck w/Shaq up through Kazaam.

Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 20:49 (twelve years ago)

Sorcerer is a good, visceral spin on its great predecessor.
― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Friday, May 3, 2013 3:55 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's even better. More suspenseful, unflinching.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:03 (twelve years ago)

noooooooo. I couldn't believe hauling out the sentimental watch the second before Fate takes a hand.

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:37 (twelve years ago)

even if it was just a product of the time, Wages has more cheese and softheartedness in it, while Sorcerer is as dark and creepy as the story should be. Also they put sand in the trucks.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:24 (twelve years ago)

I love pretty much every change they made, kind of my standard for a great remake.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:25 (twelve years ago)

He say things:

“There were some really fine films in the Seventies, like The Parallax View, that dealt with the human condition and moral complexity. That’s disappeared. Now, it’s all about guys in spandex suits flying around saving the world. There are a number of good films around today. [Pause.] I can’t name them… But it’s no longer for me, I can tell you that.” He presses an electronic clicker and a houseboy appears in a Union Jack T-shirt and silver shorts to take orders for coffee and croissants.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:06 (twelve years ago)

Sure that's not about Michael Cimino?

Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:09 (twelve years ago)

lol

i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:12 (twelve years ago)

He just wants his damn croissants, is all.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:47 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

watched rampage - is like an overlong & really muddled law & order. 1st ~10 mins are kinda scary

http://www.thespinningimage.co.uk/cultfilms/images/7493.jpg

unfortunate, cuz it looks like there was some good facts 2 work w/ from the guy it's based on wiki

Once alone in the apartment, Chase began to capture, kill, and disembowel various animals, which he would then devour raw, sometimes mixing the raw organs with Coca-Cola in a blender and drinking the concoction. Chase reasoned that by ingesting the creatures he was preventing his heart from shrinking.

Chase granted a series of interviews with Robert Ressler, during which he spoke of his fears of Nazis and UFOs, claiming that although he had killed, it was not his fault; he had been forced to kill to keep himself alive, which he believed any person would do. He asked Ressler to give him access to a radar gun, with which he could apprehend the Nazi UFOs, so that the Nazis could stand trial for the murders. He also handed Ressler a large amount of macaroni and cheese, which he had been hoarding in his pants pockets, believing that the prison officials were in league with the Nazis and attempting to kill him with poisoned food.[5]

johnny crunch, Monday, 22 July 2013 01:25 (twelve years ago)

o plus grace zabriskie is p good in it

johnny crunch, Monday, 22 July 2013 01:29 (twelve years ago)

three months pass...

Deal of the Century is a 1983 American comedy film directed by William Friedkin and starring Chevy Chase, Gregory Hines, and Sigourney Weaver.

The film follows the adventures of several arms dealers that compete to sell weapons to a South American dictator

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, July 27, 2012 4:52 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

after years of asking I've literally met no one who's seen this.

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, July 27, 2012 4:52 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i watched this, mostly mediocre but 1 good wallace shawn scene and chevys dimple is in full force. plus its prescient abt unmanned drones. for the life of me, i cant figure out y 'santa claus is coming to town' plays over the closing credits

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 01:44 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

Friedkin directing Pinter's The Birthday Party onstage in L.A. this winter.

Cast includes Tim Roth and Steven Berkoff.

tbd (Eazy), Monday, 30 December 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago)

three weeks pass...

A certain critic wrote on FB about Cruising, "It's amazing what you notice if you watch this movie without huffing poppers the entire time."

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 January 2014 02:22 (eleven years ago)

Sorcerer Blu-Ray coming in April. I've already pre-ordered my copy.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 26 January 2014 03:26 (eleven years ago)

one month passes...

I'll finally get a chance to see Sorcerer in the spring. Not sure if it'll be one screening (in which case I'll work hard to show up on the right night) or a few. Hoping Friedkin's there at least once, even though (or maybe because...) some of the quotes on this thread point to something of a disconnect with regards to his own place in film history.

clemenza, Monday, 17 March 2014 03:30 (eleven years ago)

three weeks pass...

Sorcerer is well done--hard-nosed without being silly--and I can see why people advocate for it. (Putting aside Friedkin's deluded claim that the film's failure was Star Wars' fault.) I just watched and appreciated it--never really cared where it was going, only felt the tension viscerally maybe once, on the bridge. Scheider's really good, so are Bruno Cremer and the guy who hires them all. (Spotted Joe Spinell--I think he was complaining that someone was trying to bust his chops.) Until the end credits, less Tangerine Dream than I thought there'd be. (The Tangs, I think Lester Bangs called them.) I fully expected a Huston/Kubrick ending, but I didn't think it would happen off-camera and seem like an afterthought.

clemenza, Sunday, 13 April 2014 04:47 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

Good 30-min interview with Alec Baldwin:

http://www.wnyc.org/story/htt-william-friedkin/

I know some Civil War re-enactors you might want to talk to (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 02:39 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

this is brilliant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmihQf9WmDk

piscesx, Sunday, 22 November 2015 01:41 (ten years ago)

two months pass...

Finally watched The Boys in the Band today, which I'd always assumed was one of those things that I should see more for historical reasons than anything else, and was surprised at how much I enjoyed it. A time capsule, obviously, but one whose portrayal of queerness as a social, emotional and political state feels far more vital, to me, than something like the watchable but ultimately frivolous Looking (the first season, anyway; haven't seen the second). Only Kenneth Nelson's showy final act breakdown grates a bit.

pitchforkian at best (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 20:59 (nine years ago)

on an emotional level. I think it's somewhat less of a time capsule than it appears on the surface; people still are trapped in forms of self-loathing... shameless archiving:

http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/the-boys-in-the-band

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:13 (nine years ago)

four months pass...

The Brink's Job is wildly uneven, but damn is Warren Oates great in his two big scenes.

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 July 2016 04:57 (nine years ago)

one year passes...

Second watch of TLADILA is great value

So many....moments

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 October 2017 23:14 (eight years ago)

two weeks pass...

Sorcerer on limited reissue in the Uk this weekend and out in a fancy pants 4K Blu in a week or 2. Some people go MENTAL for this film.
Not ilx clearly tho..

piscesx, Friday, 3 November 2017 21:38 (eight years ago)

I love it. Bought the US Blu-Ray when it came out either last year or earlier this year.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 3 November 2017 21:43 (eight years ago)

sorceror is fucking amazing

What's the range of an Iranian frogman dipshit? (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 3 November 2017 21:46 (eight years ago)

one month passes...

I finally watched Cruising; it is a mess o' shit

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 December 2017 05:21 (eight years ago)

I suppose I'd find out in Friedkin's commentary track why he had multiple actors play the killer(s)?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 December 2017 12:37 (eight years ago)

I do approve of using Willy DeVille and The Germs in the bar sequences instead of disco

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 December 2017 22:20 (eight years ago)

perceptive essay imho

https://www.cineaste.com/fall2013/from-the-archives-cruising/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 9 December 2017 05:21 (eight years ago)

Sorcerer rules.

Simon H., Saturday, 9 December 2017 05:22 (eight years ago)

I suppose I'd find out in Friedkin's commentary track why he had multiple actors play the killer(s)?

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius)

Because he was cheating?

I saw this for the second time - and first time on a big screen - last summer and it struck me as far more superficial than it seemed on first viewing. The ambiguity that pops up suddenly in the final scene is entirely unearned.

I never think dance club scenes in movies look authentic, and this film is no exception, even though the leather bar scenes were supposedly filled out with their real-life patrons. There was just too much going on at the same time, when in reality (I'm educatedly guessing) those places would be boring most of the time.

Josefa, Saturday, 9 December 2017 07:41 (eight years ago)

well, drama is life w/ the dull bits excised etc

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 9 December 2017 09:20 (eight years ago)

tbf they go 'ambiguous' in Cruising way b4 final scene.

Friedkin also said Pacino wanted to get the 'fashionable gay haircut' of '79, and it turned out so badly they delayed production for a month. I'd like to see a still!

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 December 2017 20:56 (eight years ago)

see, James Franco wouldn't make that mistake

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 December 2017 21:05 (eight years ago)

he'd make others, tho possibly not as many as Friedkin did.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 December 2017 22:56 (eight years ago)

re ambiguity, supposedly the specific ambiguity you get full-on in the final shot is something that was better supported in the 40 minutes that had to be cut out of the film to avoid an X rating. Yeah, it's not hard to see where Friedkin was going wrt that idea much earlier on, but there's kind of a lack of hard evidence I'd say.

Wikipedia quotes Friedkin as saying the excised 40 minutes would have made the film both more and less ambiguous.

Josefa, Thursday, 14 December 2017 23:27 (eight years ago)

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqdlmJXZGsU

!!!

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 14:32 (seven years ago)

what the hell

Simon H., Wednesday, 21 March 2018 14:35 (seven years ago)

I caught Bug a few weeks ago and thought it was terrific. Shannon & Judd were an unholy mess.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 14:38 (seven years ago)

eight months pass...

Thinking about Killer Joe still makes me smile.

I hope that in the future, when someone is talking about "The Church", a bystander's first assumption will be that you're talking about the rock band, but their second guess will be Thomas Hayden Church.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 30 November 2018 20:12 (seven years ago)

i finally saw sorcerer last week. for a minute i'm like, why on earth do they launch this hare-brained scheme to retrieve this ancient nitro. they're an evil oil company, it can't be too hard for them to scare up something else to blow up the well with! and then i'm like, actually, that's exactly the kind of bone-stupid short-sighted greedy corner-cutting decision that an evil oil company would make - fair dos friedkin, fair dos

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:52 (seven years ago)

have you seen The Wages of Fear?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:53 (seven years ago)

i don't remember if Clouzot was more 'plausible'

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:54 (seven years ago)

i have! on a terrible .avi file downloaded from somewhere nefarious. i need to see it for real.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:59 (seven years ago)

i don't remember if Clouzot was more 'plausible'

Was meaning to rewatch this recently but RIP FilmStruck. Although Mubi is doing a Clouzot series now, but don’t think I saw that one on there, yet.

My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 November 2018 22:06 (seven years ago)

nine months pass...

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat is going on in Sorcerer???

flappy bird, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:38 (six years ago)

truckdriving iirc

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:38 (six years ago)

the second hour was p cool, but
WHO are these guys and WHY are they doing this and for WHAT???
I haven't seen Wages of Fear

flappy bird, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:42 (six years ago)

you better flap to it

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:45 (six years ago)

they are desperate no-hopers

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:55 (six years ago)

it's an insane, suicidal mission that makes no sense - exactly the sort of thing a rapacious oil company would extort its criminally underpaid workers to sign up for

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 17:02 (six years ago)

read a little about Friedkin's plan to get an all star cast... I love Roy Scheider but this would've worked much better with McQueen/Mitchum and Mastroianni... the almost complete excision of exposition here would work with stars. but even the mission and who it's for and why is unclear

flappy bird, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 17:06 (six years ago)

the first part of the movie lays out the backstories of each of the four to show how their unhealthy risk tolerance has landed them in Porvenir; driving nitro-laden trucks over impossible roads seems like the logical next step

Wages of Fear is the better film, but I prefer Sorcerer for the Tangerine Dream score

Brad C., Wednesday, 25 September 2019 17:19 (six years ago)

which is really under-used - what little is left is awesome!

flappy bird, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 19:15 (six years ago)

four years pass...

watched Sorcerer for the first time (thanks Criterion), pretty amazing movie. i like the whole cast but especially Scheider (obv) and Cremer (great face). looks great, score is incredible, all the location shooting is fantastic. my one quibble with it is the pacing/structure. him adding backstory intros for three of the characters means they don't get into the trucks until the second hour of the movie, it feels like it needs a little more in the trucks. i'd leave what he has but add another 20ish minutes of truck action. iirc more of Wages of Fear proportionally is devoted to the truck stuff

na (NA), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 19:24 (one year ago)

two months pass...

Finally watched Cruising. Did anyone else think the screenplay (and actors’ delivery of same) were kinda crap?

Overly dramatic elevator music (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 2 June 2024 21:10 (one year ago)

No, not at all. I get tingles every time I hear Paul Sorvino ask “Have you ever smoked another man’s pole?”

Killer Joe seriously got screwed over in the original poll. What a brilliant comedy

beamish13, Sunday, 2 June 2024 23:11 (one year ago)

It is a film made by a straight man gawping at the gay leather community in West Chelsea in late 1970s-early 1980s NY. There were protests against it at the time as not being representative of the larger gay community, and it wasn't

but it's an interesting artifact in retrospect, and as a film it is worth watching I think and has a chilling ending

Dan S, Monday, 3 June 2024 00:29 (one year ago)

three weeks pass...

just watched the hunted

what a bizarre mess of a few nice elements

did they have to give up at some stage and botch together a movie using what they had?

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 June 2024 19:56 (one year ago)

The last time I re-watched it I was shocked how much time was devoted to Del Toro's character's wartime experiences. That shit could have been chopped down to about two minutes and it would have made the movie much scarier and weirder. But overall I still like it.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 27 June 2024 20:11 (one year ago)

it loses any and all idea of what it is by the end of the long foot chase through park/tram and never comes back

i like plenty of the rest of it

the editing in particular is absolutely horrible- continuity, flow, coherency and any sense of timing or momentum go completely out the window

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 June 2024 20:15 (one year ago)

seven months pass...

I watched Sorcerer this afternoon. I had a great ride. I didn't want that end but it made thematic sense, I suppose. I've read a fair bit about the characters being poorly drawn, or cold, but eh, I liked that Friedkin left gesture and landscape do most of the work. It was allegorical, psychomachia even; let the journey tell the story.

Some decent stuff here: https://cinephiliabeyond.org/sorcerer/

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 23 February 2025 20:12 (nine months ago)

Interview with Friedkin by Nicolas Winding Refn from, I think, the Sorcerer blu-ray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZAvDlqGSEc

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 23 February 2025 22:12 (nine months ago)

Watched Cruising off Hollywood Suite a couple of weeks ago. Sordid and not very good, although Pacino's performance is still much more restrained than what's around the corner (maybe Scarface is where it all started to go south).

clemenza, Sunday, 23 February 2025 23:33 (nine months ago)

two weeks pass...

https://www.criterion.com/films/34370-sorcerer

Okay, heteros are cutting edge this year, too. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 14 March 2025 16:33 (nine months ago)

I probably would've voted for The French Connection which plays up to his strengths. I actually think his best film is The People vs. Paul Crump, an hour-long television documentary he made while he was still directing local television news for WBKB in Chicago. When Friedkin made an appearance at the Harvard Film Archive, they screened it with The French Connection, and if you see both, it's easy to understand why.

birdistheword, Friday, 14 March 2025 19:27 (nine months ago)


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